Pardon My Take - NFL Preview With Field Yates, College Football Is Back, Deion Sanders Has Receipts And Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

Football is back. Deion Sanders is keeping receipts and he has the Dawgs to do it. We talk about the full weekend of football, Brian Kelly losing, who was the horniest head coach, Iowa offense being b...ack for a second and more (00:00:00-00:41:28). Who's back of the week including diarrhea on a plane, the Waterdogs going to the semi's and more (00:41:28-00:58:05). Field Yates joins the show to preview the upcoming NFL season, what teams he thinks are undervalued, fantasy sleepers, whats the next wrinkle in the league and more (00:58:05-02:01:52). We finish welcoming Max back from vacation and a goodbye to Mt Rushmore season (02:01:52-02:09:39).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon music. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend, Field Yates, actually recurring guests because he helped us prank Mike Florio a couple of years ago. Good friend of the program. He actually, it's kind of weird PFT. We got, we got guests changing their flights for us. So Gerry O'Connell on Friday, flew into Chicago, Field Gates
Starting point is 00:00:32 extended his stay in Chicago just to be on the show. Let's not book Mark Walberg on the show. We could have another national security. That's true. That's true. Field Gates was great, though. We did an entire preview of the NFL. He gave us some fantasy, little sleepers here and there. Very smart guy knows the league. Get us ready for football being back this week. We're going to talk some college football, a lot of great college football. The last whatever it was, five days in a row, who's back of the week, the boys are back. We reminder we have a show today, we have a show Wednesday. Then we have a show Friday. And it's all brought to you by our friends at Corps Light. Game day just got a whole lot chiller because this season you can take your whole tailgate to the next level with the Corps Light
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Starting point is 00:03:11 Okay, let's go. It's part of my take. I ran you and then we're taking higher It's part of my take there's enough of our sports Welcome to part of my take today is Tuesday September 5th and pft College football is back football is back baby football is back. I have a question for you big cat. Yes. Do you believe now? Yeah, I believe now Well, I believe now so I want to start with Dion, but I want to do it even take it to a macro level the pack 12 is back Oh, okay fully so the pack Dion switched the balance of college football the pack 12 is dead We know that but for one last year, they're back. You ready for this stat?
Starting point is 00:04:26 This is from Greg Moraz, MROZ. Greg Joss. Just like Justin Moraz? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Since 1980, no conference has ever won their first 13 games of the season. The Pac-12 did it this year. That's pretty spectacular.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That's pretty insane. The last year of the Pac-12 and the Pac-12 went 13 year. That's pretty spectacular. That's pretty insane. The last year of the pack 12 and the pack 12 went 13 and 0 to start the season. Yes, pretty good. I mean, shout out Deon though. Yeah, nobody believed in Deon. We believed in Deon. Love it.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I know we picked him. Off air. We talked about it off the air. We didn't say it on the air, but we believe. We believe in Deon. I believe in Travis Hunter. I believe in Travis Hunter. 129 snaps.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So we played 129 snaps. He had 11 catches for 119 yards on offense. On defense, he had two tackles and an interception. Now, their defense wasn't spectacular, but they did enough to win. This is a crazy stat here. You ready? The last two players with 20 receptions
Starting point is 00:05:21 and three interceptions in a season are Chris Gamble and Champ Bailey. Travis Hunter already has 11 receptions and three interceptions in a season are Chris gamble and champ Bailey. Travis Hunter already has 11 receptions and one interception. Yeah. It hasn't been done. Wild. What he did, it hasn't been done in 20 years. Shadour Sanders was incredible.
Starting point is 00:05:36 510 yards, four receivers with a hundred yards or more. Shout out, Sean Lewis, the OC. He's a badger from Kent State. He went, you know, he was a head coach Kent State was like, I'm gonna go to Colorado. I'm just gonna fucking turn this thing up with these guys. That game was awesome. Deon Pisses people off so much. I love Deon Sanders so much because he makes our job easy because he starts Deon is basically easy because he starts. Dion is basically the tree of life and avatar for takes. So people get so upset at what Dion's doing.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And Dion also, like the receipts and going in just attacking reporters, which I love, then we had an entire discussion about reporters being fanboys and how Dion's wrong for saying that like people doubted him that's not their job. And it's like people doubted him, that's not their job. And it's like, well, no, Deon's pumping himself up. This is what Deon's doing to get his team motivated, to get his school motivated, to get his program motivated
Starting point is 00:06:33 to going from a one win season to then beating the national title runner up as a 20 and a half point underdog at their home stadium week one. It was shocking and awesome and everything. So Dion, the the takes that I saw, I have two that I want to share with you, PFT. One is from said golden who when we started the discussion about fanboys in college football and people being like, well, we're not supposed to say that, you know, like, Deon's calling out receipts. That's not our job. Our job is to objectively report. And it's, it's ridiculous that he would like say this said,
Starting point is 00:07:13 golden said, don't get me started on the blurry line between fans and journalists, wearing the team's colors to the game, saying we during reports, et cetera, makes me physically ill. He's, you know what he is. He's, he's we-fended by that. Yes, yes. Shout out Jim Harboff for the great offense. It would have offense, defense, we have we-fits. Jim Harboff, who passed away tragically.
Starting point is 00:07:34 That was tough. Over the weekend. His players, his players went out there, lined up information for him in remembrance of the legacy that left behind at Michigan. They were, they were tragic. They were in free Harbors shirts getting off the bus. They should have a, we're the black patch.
Starting point is 00:07:47 He did self-impose that punishment. I know that it's bullshit. We, we, we stand with Jim Harboh, against the NCAA, but that was by the technical ruling, he suspended himself. Yeah, and they're like free harboh. In the big metaphor this, it was, it was sui season for Jim Harboh.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yes. And then they lined up to remember their coach named held four held their fours up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In his formation. Uh, but yeah, the the journalists are very upset. It's physically ill. He said golden is has his head next to Ben Verlander in the toilet right. I'm going to be sick. Yeah. You hold my hair about this. Yeah. I hold your show. Hey and and people rooting for journalists rooting for team. So I hold your show hay and people rooting for, journalists rooting for team. So I don't mind what Deon did,
Starting point is 00:08:28 which is basically he took some questions and then if he didn't like what the journalists had written, he'd be like, I saw what you wrote about. He basically said, you're fake news, next question. And if the reporter prognosticated this game, got it wildly incorrect, what was going into it, then Deon has every right to be like, you don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And again, he's using it as motivation for himself. This is how Dion runs, like this is what you get. He's very transparent with who he is, and it works. And the funny part is, you'll get people that stand up for the journalist, because journalists overall have an important job to do in society, I would say, if they do it correctly and they do it well.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But you can't get mad at Deon Sanders for not answering questions when you then get to go ahead and you write 700 words about Deon Sanders not answering questions. Because you're fulfilling your own content right there. Exactly back to Deon Sanders is a tree of life. Yes, he keeps the world going. Yes, so he's well within his rights to be like, I'm not answering your question. It's like when Marshal and Lynch, before the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:09:30 was like, I'm just here so I don't get fined. And all the reporters are like, I can't believe this guy won't let us do our jobs. I know what I'll do. I'll write 2,000 words about how he won't let us do our jobs. Boom, he gave it to you. When came noon, when he didn't answer questions after the Super Bowl, what a classless piece of shit
Starting point is 00:09:46 that guy is. I can't believe I can't follow a column. I'm on deadline. Oh, wait, I'm currently typing my take right now about how Cam Noon is a classless piece of shit. Yes. Dion, the journalist should be thanking their lucky stars that Dion Sanders is part of college football
Starting point is 00:09:59 because he makes it more fun. I'm sure it doesn't feel good not to have a warm, fuzzy relationship with the coach of the school that you covered. Should have said they were gonna win. Should have just suck his day. Yeah, you should have said it. Should have put on a jersey and said they were gonna win. This is, it's not, it's not rocket science,
Starting point is 00:10:13 what you have to do here. There's a reason why we just kiss all of our friends' asses all the time. We come and we come and we came. Yeah, I think Dion said that afterwards. That's a supposed, yeah, Vinny Vinny Vinny. I came, I came, I came. Yeah. The other one, this one, this one was great. So there was also like, Deon obviously said
Starting point is 00:10:31 something about how he pisses people off because his black head coach was 75% African American team. I think he, again, I think Deon is using everything just to motivate himself and his team, which I love because it works. That's what he does. So then that became a whole discussion about that. And there was videos of TCU students saying, fuck you, Deon Sanders before the game. There also was a video that was incredible of the of TCU students section, saying throw it to Hunter, throw it to Hunter, and then Travis Hunter made the goal line interception, which was an incredible play, which that was beautiful, beautiful karma. Credit to the person that was taking that video too,
Starting point is 00:11:08 because they had the presence of mine to reverse the camera angle right after the interception, and all the kids were like, just stone faced, like oh my god, and then somebody goes like, who said that? Who said that? I think this guy was holding the camera, and he's like, who said it?
Starting point is 00:11:20 Put your hand up. So anyway, a big discussion started, and then Clarence Hill Jr. tweeted this out, which he then deleted because he got just dunked on royally. But he said, you think opposing fans tell Nick Sabin or Mac Brown F word you wrote out word F word you before the game or is that reserved for Deon Sanders? I've been on sidelines before and I haven't heard it. The very first reply was from 2014 when on this the CBS game of the week, the loudest fuck you Sabin champ was happening in Pat and Rouge. Yeah. And then he was like, Oh, whoops, I probably fuck this up. But again, F.W. Deon Sanders take machine. Like, I love that everyone, no, everyone has
Starting point is 00:12:04 a feeling about him. And they're like, let me get some takes off and they're usually wrong and stupid But they're great for the ecosystem and he's great for the sport. Yeah, he's awesome for the sport We love having these these polarizing coaches that you can get your takes off about so I'm glad I'm happy to see what Deon did I'm you know what? I think they're gonna win by 30 next week Yeah, Nebraska I'm just gonna say that, that way, Deon, you hear me saying this, you can't get mad at me.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I'm on your side. You're gonna win by 30 against Nebraska. It's also the minute, like I don't think Colorado's gonna go undefeated. I probably shouldn't say that, but I do. I think they will. I think they will.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I think they will. Already Deon has proven that he's turned this whole thing, they won one game last year. Well, so a lot of the conversations about Deon, rightfully so, but his son, oh, it's, so a lot of the conversations about Dion rightfully so, but his son, oh, it's incredible. Is one of the best quarterbacks in the country, now it looks like.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And everyone was asking, can he take the step up? And he did that like more so than we all expected. But people will, when Dion takes his first loss, the world will come at Dion and that's how this goes. It's just a pendulum that's gonna swing back and forth. There's gonna be so much fun to watch. We are Dion, guys, I'm hoping they go undefeated. Be sick.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But you know that's coming. But Dion doesn't care. He knows that that's coming. He knows that he talks shit, but he backs it up more times than not. That's gonna give him more motivation. Correct. They do start losing.
Starting point is 00:13:22 They're gonna have to come again. They're gonna get better once they start losing. It's gonna be wild. So yeah, people are saying that I saw a lot of takes out there about how TCU's defense sucks and how you know It's this isn't indicative of what they'll be able to do for the rest of the year and I they have the reasons He buys of the last game that TCU played where they got smoked in the nanny But according to Jim Negi who runs the senior bowl They've got like three or four future NFL players in their secondary right so they're actually not that bad of a defense
Starting point is 00:13:49 they're a little bit undersized up front but that's we're talking about like their secondary they're they're very talented yes this was not there twenty-f-one on a favor yet this was not a fluke she door sanders is a fucking monster that quarterback he's very very good really good yes uh... alright so other story also those white color out of uniforms looked Dors Sanders is a fucking monster. Yeah, quarterback. He's going to be very, very good. Really good. Yes. All right. So other story also those white color
Starting point is 00:14:06 out of uniforms looked awesome. So good. Now that they look so clean. They look like shit when they're getting their asses kicked. But when they win wearing those, they look really good. It's also very funny. And this isn't supposed to be against Nebraska because they should have won that game against Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:14:20 That was unfortunate. They somehow figured out a way to get Matt rule who is going to probably write their program and then just play the most Scott Frost game ever. They got to just flush out other system, but it is very funny that Nebraska Colorado, which used to be like a great, great rivalry. That's going to be a huge, huge game on Saturday and Colorado's back before Nebraska is. Yeah. Like they somehow beat them back.
Starting point is 00:14:46 A team that had no hope and was like in utter despair has beaten Nebraska to the back meter. And maybe Nebraska can win on Saturday and that they get more back. But right now Colorado is more back than Nebraska. Yeah. Now if Texas wins on Saturday, they're more back than Colorado, I think. Oh, yeah. Texas and Tuscaloosa for sure for sure. Absolutely. We were on Backwatch right now. Yes. Um, other, other big moments Florida State is back. Yeah. That was an incredible second half
Starting point is 00:15:14 against LSU. Uh, I, I, listen, we love the people of Louisiana. We love the fans of LSU, but this is the same conversation we had last year. You got a coach that is probably the least likable person in the world outside of maybe Urban Meyer. And so when they lose, like I feel bad, yeah, Bill Cosby maybe like, yeah, they're all the brothers. It's a short list. Yeah, in terms of football coaches though,
Starting point is 00:15:39 he's probably the most least likable football coach in college football right now. So when you lose, I can't feel bad because I just Brian Kelly is so unlikable as a person. And I do feel bad for LSU fans because I love LSU fans, but this is the, you went from like the most likable guy in in coach O to Brian Kelly. And so when you lose on a national stage, there's a little bit of like, aha, look at Brian Kelly and his mad face. For sure. It was it was an ass kicking in the second half. LSU came out the gate strong
Starting point is 00:16:10 when they didn't score on that first drive where they had they got down to the goal line pretty much. That was that was a bad miss. It went downhill from there. They're often still look good for the rest of the game. I was too good. I was in the lyrics by the way. That was just going four downs and only running it on first down. Yeah. Come on, come on guys. Come on. I was watching it with Hard Factor Will, who is an LSU alum. He went with us to the national championship that they won, uh, Dunn and Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And he very unironically was screaming at halftime, like fire, Brian Kelly's ass, get his ass out of here. I don't know if that's the majority opinion of LSU fans, but I do know that like they're, they don't like losing with Brian Kelly as their coach. They can tolerate losing with coach O as their coach, as long as they're building towards something, but any small mistake by Brian Kelly's gonna be magnified, they're like this fucking carpet bagger coming down here and ruining our football program, get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:17:02 So they don't, they don't, they don't want them out. It's not the vast majority opinion, but I do think that So they don't, they don't, they don't official, they don't want them out. It's not the vast majority opinion. But I do think that if he, if he doesn't have a big season this year, you will hear some serious discussion about how much will it cost to get rid of it? It's, it's the winning curers all you, if you're an LSU fan, you suck up the fact that you're hiring Brian Kelly who's not likable to basically be like, we're going to win a national title, but you did win a national title with Coach O's. So it's like, fuck. Yeah. And they won one with less miles. And who is likable?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah. So there's a saving somehow. There's a reason why less miles stuck around year after year of just the most, like the hugeest brainfarts ever at the end of multiple games per season. And that was because they liked them down there. Yeah. I'm rude to say Louisiana liked less. I'm still rooting for LSU in spite of Brian. That's how much we like LSU. Yes. Yes. But Florida state was incredible. That turn around has been awesome. Keon Coleman, uh, who I did, I did have to tweet out the tuck coming because that, that's tough. He, he, he transferred from Michigan state. He looked incredible. Three touchdowns high point king. He was just high pointing the ball all over LSU's cornerbacks. And then his mom afterwards had one of my favorite quotes ever. So Ross
Starting point is 00:18:10 Dallinger wrote about this in Yahoo. Uh, Keon Coleman's mom said, because he's from Louisiana he's from not too far from Baton Rouge. He wasn't even offered wasn't offered wanted to play basketball in football. Uh, and his mom said after, oh, it was good, especially against LSU, God is blessing him. God says to make your enemies your footstool. He did it. I never heard that. I never heard God say that.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I had that note. He did. It's actually in the Bible. God is no different than like hazing its sigmachai. God said, make your enemies your footstool. God says they hate us because they ain't us. Yeah. That's, I just like, I might get that. It's Sigma Kai. God make your enemies your footstool. God says they hate us because they ain't us. Yeah. I just like, I might get that as it's had to.
Starting point is 00:18:48 God made said make your enemies your footstool. There's a lot of parts of the Bible that we don't hear about that much that they just don't teach you. I know, I miss that one, but I mean, it's a great quote. I'm gonna look up. And shout out God for saying that. Like that's fucking, no respect.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Like God had, I mean, God even though they had that type of furniture back then. He's the original top G. God, God, go to West El. Get a fucking footstool of your enemies. Some 110, verse one, the Lord says to my Lord, sit right, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Bang. It's a bar. Let's go. Let's go. So yeah, Florida State though, looks for real. And Jordan Travis is very, very good. Yeah. All right, other.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So we started with talking about the Pac-12, the Pac-12 on Friday, officially officially is dead because Stanford and Cal and SMU are joining the ACC, which is basically like these three schools where like we need a home so badly, they're taking way less money. I think SMU is not taking any TV dollars for the first nine years.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And Cal and Stanford are taking like half TV dollars for the first like seven or eight years. They basically just like, we need a home. And even SMU, there was a quote that SMU was picked because for Olympic sports, they'll meet in the middle and compete in sports. So SMU is literally like, okay, well, we found a place that they can just like split it halfway. They're going to get beaten Dallas.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, they're going to do like swimming and Dallas. Okay. Yeah. So, you know, there are a lot of sports that Stanford is really good at that don't include basketball and football. They win that cup, whatever the fuck it's good at that don't include basketball and football. They win that cup, whatever the fuck it's called. I don't know what cup. There's like a champion's cup.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Capital on it, I think. Yeah, the dumbest thing ever where it's like, it's how many sports you win in national titles. Oh yeah, yeah, that you have cross country. You're like the best athletic school in the country. Right. Right. Nobody really pays that close attention. Correct.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And it's funny because they're joining the ACC. I think we first speculated on that a few weeks ago and how ridiculous that would be to have like the ocean conference where it's just the coastal conference meeting each other and then I was looking at a map and I was like, you know, oceans don't have boundaries. Like it's all one body of water. That's true. It's all one water.
Starting point is 00:20:59 They're touching each other. They're touching each other. Who's to say what's Atlantic, what's specific? It's all the same ocean. Except that's a me who's just there in the middle. They're just there in the middle for swimming. For everyone to get there and compete. But the, I'm looking forward.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So if you look up the stats, women's soccer, UNC, Stanford, two best programs in the history of college sports. It's gonna be great. Who said conference realignment was bad? The rivalries back on. Yeah, the, the, the only other wrinkle that I'm, I'm just hoping this happens.
Starting point is 00:21:25 So Oregon state and Washington state are now screwed. They're totally left out. There is a rule in NCAA where you have to have at least eight members of your conference to continue being a conference, but you get a two year grace period to try to figure it out. They need to just do the pack two next year. Yeah. It would fucking rule.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So the North, North division and South division, they have to do this. They have to keep the pack to alive for at least one year. And they should have a championship game. Yeah, they should have conference championship. Yeah, they should just play around Robin at the end of like in November. Do you get an automatic bowl qualification if you win your conference? Sure. That's great. I don't think so. But yeah, yeah, maybe if you win your conference? Sure, that's great. I don't think so, but yeah, but yeah, maybe if you win your conference
Starting point is 00:22:07 championship, I think you still have to be, well, no, I now they make bowls like five and seven get a bowl. Some of them do, yeah. Yeah. Unless you transfer into division one of the last two years, then you're not allowed to. But we need that. We need that. All right, other other big stories. I have a horneous dudes. If you can, if you can make a decision on this, Horniest dudes that we saw on Saturday, Urban Meyer, getting caught, hitting on a co-ed at half time right before he was supposed to go live. We have Hugh Freeze getting himself back in the mix right away, wins one gaming, it's you, Mass, and starts replying to women on Twitter being like, come on, it's War, mass, and starts replying to women on Twitter being like, come on, it's war Eagle all the time when I think some reporter Madison Gilbert said,
Starting point is 00:22:49 like, who should I root for? LSU or Florida state and he's like, why not Auburn? Mm hmm. Okay. And that was the question you, and then we have South Carolina Shane Beamer. He was, he somehow didn't blame himself whatsoever to the point that he blamed the chain gang for eating a hot dog at halftime and not being set for their onsite kick, which they did recover. So I heard that that was some sort of tradition where they eat hot dogs
Starting point is 00:23:17 at halftime there. I don't know, Shane Beamer, all I know is in a horny world, Shane Beamer was just watching another dude angrily eat a hot dog. Yeah, and then blame them. Yeah, and then the last one is myself for and Quiggs for Sam Pittman's tits. I don't know if you guys saw it. I didn't see Sam Pitt in time. I'll tell you right now. Okay. It's, yeah, they're popping. More than popping PFT like, he's got a great set. I think, I think Quiggs said, the Sam Pittman's tits got me barking. And I was like, yeah, you're right, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:48 They are, it's, I'm a little worried. Like, they're so big that I might, I don't know what's going on. We are Sam Pittman guys, but here I just texted the group text. Zoom in on Sam Pittman's tits. He's with the Huckabees too, so you think that he wouldn't have the biggest tits. Let's see. He's got the Huckabee's too. So you think that he wouldn't have the biggest text Let's see. He's got some tits. Yeah. Oh wow. He's got a rack to like he's stacked That mincey build you think he was a bra. I don't know but I can't see any nipples I saw when I zoomed in I was like wait am I horny for Sam Pittman's tits? I think I am my cockabee looks old
Starting point is 00:24:24 Does it's though dude? Huckabee looks look like a mix of my old Mike Huckabee and Kenny Rogers. Yeah. So who's Horny's dude? I'm gonna go with Urban, a lifetime achievement award and being Horny goes to Urban Meyer. He was just chatting up, he was risen up. I do like you free just being like, now that I'm back, I'm all the way back.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Now that I'm not at liberty anymore, I am at liberty to be horny. You know you free, he's feeling himself, he's like, oh, this is good. He's in my swagger bag. He's in a hospital bed for pripers, I'm just giving him a thumbs up. Four hours ain't shit.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Oh, all right, other things I wrote down, oh, Iowa, first opening touchdown, uh, opening drive touchdown pass to start the season since 1991. That's pretty impressive. That's insane. Let's go. They scored a touchdown on the first two drives. Then they just went back to Iowa offense. And for you who don't know, one of the best storylines this year is Brian Forens, uh, the son of Kirk, their head coach, uh, he's the offensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Max just dropped everything and, uh, in his contract, I will have to win seven games this year and they have to average 25 points a game can be defensive too. And if he doesn't do that, he loses his job. So it's basically, they scored exact, they scored 24 this week. So that's, that's tough. When you, when you need that, like, first, that first week of the season, you need to put up some points to kind of, you know, pad the stats, but it's a great storyline to watch, like to have that type of, he's on, like me, explosion. Yeah. He's offensive explosion at Iowa. Yeah. I. Yeah, I have a fuckhead of the week.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Okay, there are no nominees and there's just one person. Yeah, Thomas Fernelli. Yeah, recurring guest to part of my take. He came on, gave his week preview, week one preview. And he gave a game of the year, right? He said he wanted to make it a game of the year. He didn't go all the way to the game of the year. He gave Texas Tech to Wamp Wyoming. He said,
Starting point is 00:26:26 I bought it at 10, I bought it at 11, buying it at 14, I'll buy it up to 20 if I have to. They go to Laramie and they lose and they lose and they lost and it was bad. And it was, it was a bad game. It was bad call. Now Tom does have a notes apapology. It is credit. He, if nothing, he's a man with integrity. The title of the notes apap was just, I'm sorry. I would like to issue a new apology to the big cat, PFT, Max, Jake, and the AWL is for saying game of the year
Starting point is 00:26:55 in relation to Texas Tech minus 14 during my appearance on part of my take. Lost that right. He didn't mention Hank. Oh yeah. Interesting. Well, that's the same person. This is totally on me and I accept responsibility.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I also acknowledge that Texas Tech had a 17 to nothing lead and totally blew it so it's really their fault. But this is on me. I accept my four day suspension. It was, I believe I said that it was at all Italians suspension. Abandoning Italians from part of my take for four days, beginning Saturday. Yeah, so starting on Wednesday
Starting point is 00:27:28 We can have Italians back on the show if we have to yes the I band them for Mondays episode He can't listen to listen to Mondays episode the the lost tapes The only thing that makes me feel better is that It is Tom's job and he went I think one in 11 on Saturday. So it made me feel a little better that he, you know, like if he, there's nothing worse than someone giving you a pick, it losing and they'd be like, well, dude, I went like 10 and 2. What are you talking about? But Tom also, like I do believe in Tom, I trust the process. He's going to have a good season. He even went out tonight and he gave out a pick, Clemson over 34 and a half team total. And the score right now is
Starting point is 00:28:11 Duke 21, Clemson 7. Well, it's only like the first quarter, right? No, there's 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter. Oh, shit. Fuck. All right. So what are we? What's our plan? Because it's very rare that you get an opportunity to either tail somebody entirely. No, we can't do the pendulum swings. Are we gonna fade all of this pics next week? No, you have to tail them. All right, listen, I got my teeth kicked in on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It was like, I actually had a moment that I'm not very proud of because I told my wife I was like, I'm not in football shape and she was like, what do you mean? And I was like, my eyes just hurt so bad from watching all this football today. Like, and I lost so many bets,
Starting point is 00:28:49 I got to get back in football shape and she's like, what are you talking about? So I feel the pain that Tom felt in a different way at different picks, but they all lost as well. I think you gotta follow him next week. I got a tail. I actually kind of agree with that because it's gonna be a lot of fun if I tell him any goes like own 13 again, right?
Starting point is 00:29:07 You can't he will correct he will correct Tom's good. It's it's it's time to hop on and it's also just like that That's how gambling works it's week one for bloggers, too I'll sort of shout out all the people who for the three years that Penn owned us claim that I lost on purpose so that people would lose money One week into the college football season, I think I'm down 15 units. So, haha, gotcha. Looks like I'm just a bad gambler. It wasn't a bit. It would have been great though if I went scorching hot. And everyone was like, dude, you were doing that as a bit.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You were losing money as a bit. No, I lose money every Saturday and Sunday as probably my favorite hobby. Yeah, I mean, it was my favorite hobby. Listen, I've never had so much fun losing money as I did on Saturday. It's mostly due to Tom. I did go nuclear on that play, but overall, it's hard to win in week one. You haven't seen anything yet. You got nothing, but you know what, I blame the media. I blame the media for losing almost every bet week one because I listened to their advice and their off season takes and also shout out like my whole day was just trash. I watched games start to finish from starting at 11 a.m. all the way till the night
Starting point is 00:30:19 games and the Penn State James Franklin still running his offense at the end of the game to cover against West Virginia. You know, I like smile. I was like, this is why I do it as I counted how much money I lost that day, but I was like, but I won that one. He knows. And that's the thing. It's not against the law if you're a coach to have in the back of your mind the understanding that your alumni are betting on you. Cover the spread. Yes. And then you keep your offense on the field to cover the spread. You're not betting on it, but you are establishing an enormous amount of job security if they can trust that you'll push them over the edge whenever they back you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Drew Lair is very, very good. Max. Max is back, by the way. We'll talk to Matt. Let's save the Mount Rushmore talk and vacation talk for After Field Yates, but Drew Lair is awesome. Uh, yeah. Lair is awesome. Yeah, best quarterback, Penn State quarterback, I think I've seen it in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Whoa, oh, oh. Christian Metinberger. Okay. Talk, talk, talk, talk, Black Lodge. Christian Hackenberg, was he a second round pick? I think so. To the jazz.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's insane. I mean, he was his prototypical big 10, big tall, strong arm guy. That is insane that he was a second round pick. Well, he was supposed to be like the next Peyton Manning. He stayed a year too long. Or I don't know if he could have been left. No, but remember him being like having all the hype and then him staying like, whoa, what is this?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Did he ever play? Did he take a snap in the NFL? I think he did for the Jets, right? I don't think he did. He's second round pick, 51st overall. Yeah, he started, oh no, he didn't play. He's middle name. He started three games in the A.A.F in 2019.
Starting point is 00:31:58 His middle name is Blaze. Oh, that's fucking bad. That is worse. That's worth a second round pick right there. It drew out there better. Got to take a shot. Oh True hours awesome. Yeah, it doesn't look like he played Jets
Starting point is 00:32:13 That's funny memes All right. Yeah, other things I don't want to root for all right Hank you're your, you're doing your bar big 10 thing, right? Mm-hmm. So you're going to go to a different Chicago bar for big 10 team starting at some point. Probably this weekend. Okay. I want to just throw this out there.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I know you probably don't care about it. Indiana, I didn't know this till till today or yesterday. Indiana has a McMahon on their team. Shane McMahon's son is on Indiana He's what are you doing Jake? You take one of my laptop charge or something. Okay Indiana has a McMahon on the team and and Shane McMahon Gifted Indiana a takeaway belt like a real wrestling belt. So that has to help a little bit definitely
Starting point is 00:33:01 They're not good But having a McMahon makes them awesome Mm-hmm, and I saw it like there was a picture some fan took a picture of Shane walking into the stadium to help a little bit. Definitely. They're not good, but having a McMahon makes them awesome. And I saw it, like there was a picture, some fan took a picture of Shane walking into the stadium in like Indiana gear and I was like, I fucking kind of like in the end of now. That's how much I love Shane O'Mac. It'd be very funny if Hank moved all the way here from New Jersey and just picked
Starting point is 00:33:18 Rutgers. Oh, they looked good. They did. Well, they did. They looked really good. They did my wild cats. I was heartbroken. It was weird. I didn't did I Did you tweet about the wild cats role? No, I frankly I think that what happened with our football team this last season was discussed Okay, so I don't I don't enjoy talking about my way the only time I'll talk about my Northwestern wild cats
Starting point is 00:33:38 We'll be to it and monitor them and I monitor the entire football team because I noticed you had to tweeted about them So I was like, oh, he and Revelle must have done a vales silence on Sunday Oh, he also did not know about that. That's that's what we do very weird. That's what we very weird. We're boycotting it Yeah, that isn't that it isn't that interesting. It is interesting I'm on the group chat right now. It's me Revelle Mike Wilbond and Greeney and Greeney's got his hands full right now. He's got onc walking into the studio. Yeah. He's got a whole a whole thing going on the seaport. So Greeney's he's focused on the jets. That's that's what we're saying right now. Greeney's in in NFL mode. Yeah. Um, all right. Other things.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I mean, I really am. I do think the pack 12 like won the weekend. Uh, because Washington looked awesome. Oregon put up a fucking billion against Portland state. DJ on Golioli looks good. He had like 20 seconds on every pass, but he still looks good. You know, Clemson's offense could use somebody like that. Yeah, they could. Clemson, dabbo, hot seat.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I'm saying it. Well, okay, so I would toss dabbo into the conversation of least likeable college football coaches. Oh, yes, that's right. We did miss him. Yeah, we went sideways when he said Cosby. Yeah, that's right. And I was like, wait, Brian Kelly, urban Meyer, Cosby. Yeah, Cosby would. I mean, if he coached Temple, it would be a discussion. And then last thing, Georgia memes, would you like to disavow?
Starting point is 00:35:03 Oh, the driving. Yeah. so Georgia had a staffer, Jarvis Jones got a speeding ticket, and that is their 15th speeding a reckless driving charge since the terrible tragedy that happened in January 15. That's pretty insane. Well, he got arrested. Yeah, but that's pretty insane. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't just a ticket, he got arrested. Yeah, but that's pretty insane.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah, yeah, it wasn't just a ticket, he got arrested. I'm like 15, after an accident. Kirby Smart denied that there was a problem in March, and then in July was like, yeah, there's a problem. It's like, we have way too many speedings today. SEC speed, baby. Yeah, like, so memes. Yeah, they got through drivers, huh? Okay. Like, can they put like a, can they
Starting point is 00:35:48 put something in everyone's car that can't go like just give golf cars. Yeah, golf cars is the most or mopeds. Yeah, mopeds don't go fast like roller blades. 45. Yeah, you should have the defense just get around campus on blades. Bikes. Yeah. Um, okay. It was fun though. College footballs back. It was very, very fun to watch. Also, Mizzou's head coach, oh, he could have been in Horniest as well because he was talking about one of his players. And he was like, uh, when my daughter becomes a Vagie, I would love for her to date him. Yeah. That's always a weird thing to say. Like what? It was, it was, I want to say the national championship where it was Florida and Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And maybe it was Herb Street or Fowler, whoever was calling that game, just went on a tie, tried about how much you would, you want your daughter to date a guy like Tim Teebo. Yeah, which you can kind of understand that, cause he's not gonna have sex with her. But yeah, very weird to say. Very strange.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like, oh yeah, my underage daughter, I can't wait till she turns 18 and then maybe she'll date him. Yeah, very strange. That's the highest compliment, my underage daughter, I can't wait till she turns 18 and then maybe she'll date him. Yeah, very strange. That's the highest compliment you can give a guy, I guess. I guess so. But it's also kind of a diss. Yeah, it's like, oh, you're not a threat.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, it is. Yeah, you're a nice guy. Yeah, yeah. Did you, okay, so yeah, I think that's it. I think that's, we got some who's back we're gonna do and then we have field dates what we needed that same faces different places PowerPoint for college football I mean, yeah, it's insane the amount of transfers Emory Jones Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah, JT Daniels rice Keydown slow is on BYU. Yeah, how many schools has jay is this JT Daniels fourth school? He's played an every school in FBS
Starting point is 00:37:26 Good for him. Yeah, and keyed on slow this who's recurring guests also has played on a lot of schools Yeah, West Virginia last year. No, he's a pit. He was a pit New JT Daniels was at West Virginia. Yeah, and now he's on rice. Yep. Yeah, crazy It is there the transfer portal does get a little confusing. Yeah, with all these names. Okay. Do we want to do a moment of silence for Jimmy Buffett? Yeah, that was sad. Very sad.
Starting point is 00:37:51 That was sad Friday night. Old J-Buff passed away. He did go out at the end of summer. He did. He did. He did. Although we talked about this, dying right before football seasons, the worst.
Starting point is 00:38:02 If I died the week before football season started, like, dude from Smash mouth has got to be just turning over right now Jimmy Buffett saw Nebraska Minnesota. That's that's awful. But maybe Saints team of destiny Jimmy Buffett huge Saints fan. He's on the sidelines for like all their home games every year. True. James Winston put out a fire tweet just like RIP King of him and Jimmy Jimmy Buffett was
Starting point is 00:38:24 just an all time good dude. Yeah. He just he just he just rock dude. Winston put out a fire tweet just like RIP king of him and Jimmy Jimmy Buffett was just an all time good dude. Yeah, he just he just he just he just rock dude. He made he made billions of dollars off just having fun and just like telling people hey I like to have fun and drink and the best part is he was like a workaholic. Yeah, but he worked hard. He worked so hard. I did. Yeah, he worked so hard at vacation. Right. I would like to see that out of Hank. Right now, you kind of go on vacation. You take a vacation from your vacation while you're on it.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Jimmy Buffett's also one of those guys. You can't put on one of his songs and not being a good mother. No, it's impossible. Like, it's just a minute it hits. You're like, man, that's fun. I want to drink. I tweeted out the story about Jimmy Buffett, which I learned this last summer. I was in Jamaica for a wedding.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I think you'll appreciate it. It's a crazy, like, it's the ultimate Jimmy Buffett, which I learned this last summer, I was in Jamaica for a wedding. I think you'll appreciate it. It's a crazy, like, it's the ultimate Jimmy Buffett story. He was flying, he was a pilot, right? So he was flying his little plane around through, uh, through Jamaica, and he had Bono on the plane with him. And he was like, Hey, Bono, I know this great jerk chicken shack that we got to stop by. It's right off the bay, right off Montego Bay. So Jimmy Buffett lands his plane in the bay
Starting point is 00:39:26 so that they can get out and get some chicken. As they're landing, the Jamaican military opens fire on his plane and tries to shoot him down with automatic rifles and shit. He lands the plane, there's bullet holes everywhere in it and they all hit the deck, they get boarded by the Jamaican military and they get on the plane and they're like, Oh, fuck, we just shot at Jimmy Buffett and Bono. Okay. And so they were like apologizing so hard.
Starting point is 00:39:50 They were afraid that they were gonna all lose their jobs. Probably good to jail. And Jimmy was like, You know what? I've gotten away with a lot of dumb illegal shit that I've done in my life. This is just kind of like a little bit of karma. It's probably good if I don't go at them for this. I'm just gonna write a song about it. And he wrote a song called Jamaica Mistakea. And it was a fucking smash hit. Perfect. And he just went on with his life.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And then everybody from that point on Jamaica, they're like, oh Jimmy's back in town. Let's make sure we treat him right and not try to shoot a plan on this. It's also a mistake. It's also a rottis. Yeah, it does. It's also crazy to think that back then,
Starting point is 00:40:23 people would try to shoot your plane down if you thought you had a weed on it. Yeah. Especially going to Jamaica. Yeah. What the fuck? Wild. Yeah. Jimmy Buffett though. All-time guy. Yeah. All-time dude's rock guy. Yes. Like just a king of vacation, of good times, of just feeling good. Like when you, like I said, when you hear the song, you're just like, I was at the Cubs game and they he did this. He did, they, they replayed his seventh inning stretch, which is a nice tribute, but they were playing Jimmy Buffett throughout the game. And five o'clock somewhere, like, came on. I was just like, I was with my son. I was like, I want to get fucking blacked out right now. Yeah. I wanted to write. It's, it's fantastic stuff. So, um, had a great time at his Margaritaville Times Square Resort,
Starting point is 00:41:05 went with Donnie about a year and a half ago, and I know they just shut it down. But if you're listening to me, if anybody knows where the giant, like 30, 40-foot statue of liberty, that they had inside in the foyer, that had, it had a Margarita glass instead of the torch, with shark swimming around in it.
Starting point is 00:41:22 If anybody knows where that is, I'd be very interested in purchasing it. Yeah, we'll put it in the new office. We have more than enough space. I can't imagine there's a big market out there for that, but I wanna throw my name in that. Yes, absolutely. I will help fund that.
Starting point is 00:41:33 We will absolutely buy that. No question. Okay, let's do Who's Back? And then we have Field Yates with a big time NFL preview. Who's Back is brought to you by direct TV. Let's move on to our overly direct take presented by direct TV. You know we'll have that with our who's back takes direct TV is the ultimate destination for pro football.
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Starting point is 00:42:55 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a Delta flight this weekend going from Atlanta to Barcelona and it had to turn around because someone had to quote, diarrhea all the way through the plane, which I don't even really understand. No, I think it's shit everywhere. Like it was just leaking down high.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah, I know you'll get everywhere. I think you're like going to the bathroom and it's falling out of your pants. I think you shit on like people. I think you shit on things. I think you shit everywhere. No, it's good. Did you hear the call?
Starting point is 00:43:24 No, it was great. Oh, I gotta try to find something. It's good. Did you hear the call? It was great. Oh, I gotta try to find it. It's like a, you know, when you rob a bank and they put the die pack in there and the purple explodes all over the money, that's the inside of the plane, but brown. Yeah. And it was a bio hazard.
Starting point is 00:43:34 It was a bio hazard, yeah. Which makes me feel like next time I die, I'm just going, yeah, that's a bio hazard. Watch out. I saw a good friend, Scott van Pelt tweeted out that, which would you rather be on a plane with the, you're not real girl or the one that has explosive diarrhea? It's the you're not if the you're not real girl had had explosive diarrhea on a plane They'd be able to sell those plain seats for thousands of dollars. Please also. It's Tiffany Gomez our queen. Yes
Starting point is 00:44:00 I put it. Let's put it. Let's put our new her name come on respect come on the pod to discuss Yeah, I'm the first person to reveal himself. I don't think they ever well actually We should Jake you should do a video like the Tiffany Gomez video get all dolled up and make up like part of my G state shoot and just be like I'm just here to say that what I've gone through over the past week has been hell It wasn't online. Holy yeah, all right Here's a call. It's so good. Oh, on this is the official call when they had to call back to the to the airport. I don't have an issue. I think he I think he, and he probably was wearing shorts, maybe no underwear.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's hot out, it's summer, and it was just diarrhea leaking everywhere. Maybe with magic city, maybe got the lemon pepper wings. Video evidence of this. Every thing, anytime anything crazy happens in a plate, there's videos. I don't know, good black shit Jake. But if someone's running up with diarrhea,
Starting point is 00:45:01 I don't think, I think you're like, holy shit, get out of the way, he's gonna diarrheailla on me not holy shit. I need my phone It was right down the aisle one person of the hundred and something is gonna. I don't know I think you have to take care of yourself in that No, I agree with Jake. It's it's fun It's a little odd to me that there's absolutely no video footage of this we should just put out Jersey Jerry's catastrophe be like Live footage definitely someone that was on the flight that fell asleep too, like, all right, go to Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah. We're gonna Barcelona? Yeah. Holy shit. How mad would you be? You're about to go in an awesome vacation. It's a Bartholona. Bartholona, you have to turn around
Starting point is 00:45:34 get somebody's got diarrhea. Everywhere. Everywhere. I, it was everywhere. They sure shot the plane down. It was everywhere. Yeah, he should have just jumped out. Yeah, he should have been like, all right, enough for me. I'd rather not live with this. All right, good. Who's back? Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:51 PFT. Great who's back, Hank. Thank you. My who's back at the week is Indianapolis Colts fans. Yes. So as we promised on this podcast, when Jim or say went after Dan Snyder, I said I would become a Colts fan in the AFC and purchase season tickets. If Ursa is pushed ultimately led dance night or to sell the team. A man of my word. I bought Colts season tickets. Big Cat is matching. So we have a total of four tickets to give away to Indianapolis Colts fans for every home game this year. Also I should just say I matched and then I fucked up the match because they tried to get me to have cult tickets for life.
Starting point is 00:46:28 There was a box I couldn't unclick that would give me cult tickets for life. So I looked in my email and I thought I had them. I don't, but I'm buying two tickets for every game, which actually will work in someone's favorite because like Christmas time, I'll probably buy like, you know, 100 level tickets. Yeah, so we have. So we have, it's gonna be 600 level. When I have my two tickets.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So we have a total of four tickets to give away. I do have the season tickets and also shout out to the Colts because they reached out. This is pretty awesome. They heard the podcast and they said, we appreciate you guys becoming season ticket holders. We're gonna throw in two VIP sideline passes. Free game.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Wait, we need to lead up that to four. So you can go, I can ask, I can ask the right now. Right now we have two VIP sideline passes for the pre game, as well as the two tickets for me and two tickets for Big Cat. So we have to figure out how to give them away. If you're an Indianapolis Colts fan, here's what we're doing for week one. I want to see youngsters go to this game. I'll see youngsters get these tickets that wouldn't be able to put it in a creepy way. But I'd like to see the best gym or say look like youngster,
Starting point is 00:47:34 baby or say. If you're an Indianapolis Colts fan, maybe you've got a son or a daughter, wants to get dressed up like baby or say, send us pictures of a baby or say and we will give you free tickets to go see the Colts We have four of them. Yes, so winners and second place winners and second place both receive tickets and then at least two VIP sideline passes for pre-game Not sure if we're gonna have four, but we do have two We'll just give them to both the baby or says just just the kids. Yeah, they'll just go to themselves So how do we want to do this tweet at at part of my take? Well, people might not have Twitter slash X we do the PMT intern emails. Yeah, sure PMT intern at barstals
Starting point is 00:48:12 And we'll trade out the winners, but we will tweet out the winners. Yeah, yeah Yeah, but if people don't have Twitter, okay, so either either either tweet them at us or email to the PMT Intern at barstalsports.com PMT intern at barstalsportsports.com. PMT intern at barstallsports.com, and we'll select four winners. So, giving back, it feels good to give back to the community. It's great. My other who's back the week, plug God, is pup punk.
Starting point is 00:48:33 So, if you're in Columbia, South Carolina, pup punk is gonna be playing at the bow jangles in Columbia, South Carolina, as we've always wanted to do. Don't be eating a hot dog in front of Shane Beamer. Don't do it. We're gonna be eating bowberry biscuits in front of Shane Beamer, Don't do it. We're going to be in bowberry biscuits in front of Shane Beamer, because the bowberry biscuit is elite. It's an elite fast food treat. So we're going to be there on Friday, free concert at 9. That means me, Ron, Frankie, Robbie, Caroline, Nick. We're going
Starting point is 00:48:57 to be there. We're going to play I think for an hour. So come out and say hi. I like, I love the Cox. Yeah. I love the Cox. I want to see a bunch of cock show up to that concert at the bow jankles also. And then Saturday the college football show is going to be in Tuscaloosa for the first time. So I'll be in Tuscaloosa. Huge four o'clock, I think, is the time. So everyone come out to that Texas Texas Alabama. I did hear some people saying Malik Murphy. I heard people say Malik Murphy for Texas. I don't know. Oh, why? When yours, when yours looks like he looks, he looks a very good, I don't know. Ooh. Why, Quinnures? Quinnures looks like a- And up.
Starting point is 00:49:26 He looks, he looks like a very good, very good average quarterback. That's what Quinnures looks like to me. Yeah. I don't know, Lake Murphy's a fucking monster. Also, Quinnures cut his mullet. Yeah, that's a problem. That was a very big problem.
Starting point is 00:49:38 He cleaned up big time. Okay, my who's back, I got a couple, the first is the water dogs in the semis. Yeah. Good for them. It's the simis to win the way. Yep. Two wins away. Okay. So hands off. I went to the cup's game instead of watching them. Yeah. Well, they I knew today we're going to win. I didn't need to. I don't, I don't show up to watch water dogs games unless they're already in the semi-final. It's the quarter finals. You know, like we expect to be there every year. That's that. We got rings big, can we have a tradition here at Water Dogs HQ and it's we don't watch
Starting point is 00:50:10 quarter finals because we go to the semis and then we go to the finals then we win the whole fuck. We have high standards and we got to back. We got the final four coming up. If we don't go back to back, I hate this team. Who are you playing? Water Dogs versus Cannon. Fuck the camera. And we don't go back to back. I'm throwing my water dogs, uh, ring into the Chicago River. I'm gonna. By the way, I brought it.
Starting point is 00:50:31 You know, I see it. Like six weeks ago. Yeah, get ready. They're nice. I'm gonna do it, but I'm gonna at the last minute not throw it and then just throw a paper airplane that says, thank you, water dogs. Oh, nice. I love those fake Jersey burning ones.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Okay. Um, and then my other who's back, uh, Hank, did you see the report about your wider seer juju smith shuster? Yeah, I mean, this was this was this was a floral special. It's red like it was crazy. It was I've never seen a report like this. Uh, if you guys didn't see it, it was juju smith shusters knee could explode at any point and is a mess According to Albert Breer could explode at any point what the fuck does that mean to plot the die hard couldn't anyone's fucking knee Exploded at any point. Yeah, right? He's been practicing playing I just saw it. I was like what is I actually read it wrong read it wrong the first time. I didn't read the word knee.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And I thought it was just juju smis juicer could explode at any point. And then I read it back. I was like, wait, what the fuck? I thought it was butt crack sports. I got. Yeah. Where was it from, Hank? It was Alberber. But that's not Floreo. No. No, I know it read, but it read like a Floreo. It read like a Floreo.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So anything negative reads like a Floreo. This is like you like seeing like the New Yorker cartoons. You're like, that's a flu or you I could see it. I could see it right now. Shut up flu or you by the way, he did a book reading and Wheeling West Virginia and he said that one person asked about his fantasy football team and he refused to answer it because he thought he the person had face time bus.
Starting point is 00:52:02 So it's good that we just live in his head. Yeah. This time of year, it's the best. We'll get him again one at some point, but it's good that we just live in his head. Yeah, this time of year, it's the best. We'll get him again one at some point, but it's good that we've taken a break and just let him live in horror. He's just too ready for it right now. Yeah, which is his own punishment. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:14 He's just walking around flinching all the time. Yeah. Okay, Jake, you're who's back. I'm I who's back is the US open. Oh, okay. Yeah, Americans are cooking in this tournament this year. I don't know if you guys have been following it at all, but there's three American men in the quarter finals.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Isner. Isner retired. I know, I know. I saw that. He was crying. Oh, yeah, some kid fucking gave me his nerves as bet. Yeah. On a Thursday Wednesday morning.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah, he's retirement matching. Best serve. Serve goat. Serve goat. Yep, Andy Roddick's my serve goat. What about Novak's? Oh,. Yeah, Andy Roddick's my serve. What about Novak's? Oh, yeah, he's Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, Kings respecting Kings. Rodgers went to the US open and he had a picture of Novak and he said, shout out my guy Novak's and had crossed out Moderna, the ad that was on the US open. Listen, Rodgers and I are starting to become very much alike. We both agree that no vax is the goat. Yeah. Yeah. So the bottom half of the men's brackets, three Americans and joke of it. Of course. Is it Tiafo? Is he still in it? I like to still think he should come on the show. I did. It's a good fit. It's a joke of it. You lost the first two sets on the line. I mean, I was like, I went to sleep, but I had no care in the world.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Of course, you've been with me. You got to keep reminding us every major tournament, like who these different tennis players are. Who's the one that like gets upset all the time that people hate? I like, I like, I like him. Wait, he gets people hate him. Wait, is Alcatraz not in it? He's the number one, Steve's on the top half of the racket.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Oh, got it, got it, got it. So wait, we're celebrating Americans being in the quarter finals. Well, we just talked being in the quarter finals. After we just talked about how the quarter finals don't matter. It's the first time I think in over a decade that four men made the quarter finals. And around 16. Let me know when they actually get to the semis. Well, one's guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Okay. Okay. Okay, great. So one, at least that's not a story versus Blake Shelton. Ben Shelton. Okay, all right. That would be very confused Athletes Yeah, come on Jake we're we can't celebrate quarter finals
Starting point is 00:54:15 The Americans playing each other. Yeah, so one to guarantee you Cannibalization man, it's I don't like that. Yeah, but yeah, I'm pulling for T.O.F.O Oh, I think you should be on the show. I am't like that. Yeah, but yeah, I'm pulling for Tiafah. I think he should be on the show. I am too. DC guy. Yep. Um, yeah, let me know when one of them wins it. The whole thing?
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah, we suck at tennis. Yeah, it's been a struggle. We have one one in how long? I think Rodic or Sampress? No, what was I, I can see probably? Rodic never won a major, right? Yeah, he did. I think. Did he? I thought he was supposedic never won a major right? Yeah, he did I think did he?
Starting point is 00:54:46 I thought he was supposed to be next up. I never can't just was the Antideon who's a serve God did he win a major? Did Rodic win a major? I'm looking up. I'm looking up right now. I don't think Oh, I don't think Rodic ever want a major You might be right. Yeah, Jake. I know more No, no, he won the US Open. Oh, he did. 2003.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Well, I've fought for a lot of time. So it's been 20 years. And then he was in the finals at Wimbledon for three years. So it's been 20 years since we've won one. And it's our tight, listen. If I were, if I were in for president, I'd be like, we always win the US Open. We just won't let anyone else play it.
Starting point is 00:55:24 This is only Americans. It's a US Open Golf and Tennis. We need to win the US Open. We just won't let anyone else play it. It's just only Americans. It's a US Open golf and tennis. We need to win this. Yeah, we have to, but no Vax is gonna win, because he's the goat. Okay, good job, Jake. Quarter finals. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Yeah. Just keep us updated. I will. I want to see one of them in the finals. Then I will root, unless it's against no Vax. Well, like I said, three Americans and no back are the bottom half of the bracket. Oh, so yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 He's gonna waste them. He's gonna waste them. Never know. Yeah, okay. We went back to back 2002, 2003, Sampress Rodik and then nothing. Sampress. All time Harry dude.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Very Harry. Just the Harry. Super Greek. So Harry. Also, women's side, Coco Gough. Still alive. Still alive. Yeah. Coco Gough next up live. Still live. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Coco Gough, next up. I think so. Okay. Yeah, all right. You said Jimmy Butler's been in her box. Whoa. Oh, Jay. Respectfully.
Starting point is 00:56:16 You're like, damn, that's what it's called. Intentously. You're in some box. I understand, but you're in some box. Jimmy Butler's been in her box. Whoa. A phrase that. All right. I didn't phrase it wrong. Well, yeah, he did. Yeah, you definitely.
Starting point is 00:56:27 That's what you did. You said sweet. Yeah, he's been. You should have said he's attended the game. You should have said Jimmy Butler's been in her sweet box. Yes. Yes. That would have been much better.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Okay. Okay. Let's get to field yates. Field yates. Great interview. NFL preview with field yates. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that That would win much better. Okay. Okay. Let's get to field yates. Field yates. Great interview. NFL preview with field yates. Part of my take is sponsored by better help. Do you ever find that just as you're trying to fall asleep, your brain suddenly
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Starting point is 00:58:23 Double there is. Yeah, double vary, he was nice enough to change his flights now welcome on a very, very special guest in person. Double there is yet double very. He was nice enough to change his flights around. He has been on to prank Mike Florio, but we thought we know Field Yates is a fan of the show. We know he knows football very, very well inside and out. So let's get him on. Let's talk some ball.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Before we talk ball, Chefs are asked me to ask you what your middle name is. Oh God. Minister. What? Yeah, I am a very non-religious person. So not exactly appropriate. My mother's maiden name.
Starting point is 00:58:55 So. Okay, that makes more sense. So, otherwise, My name definitely followed me throughout my life. Cause it could be stolen valor. Could be, yeah. Minister Yates. I appreciate two weddings.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But no, not a particularly religious or specific. Okay, that's not as cool as the story. Yeah. The chef, you kind of led me down the wrong way. You know, the best part about having a name that's like, it's unique is that like, you know, growing up when, you know, certain age kids like did sort of have their thoughts on being named field.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And it's like, you have zero control over your name. Yeah, that's true. And I'm like, what was the age? What was the age kids sort of making fun of? Yeah, that's probably like, I'm thinking like eight to 10. Okay. I remember, I will distinctly remember being like, my have an older brother younger sister, picking up my older brother when he started at a new school, and I was probably around,
Starting point is 00:59:33 when he was probably 10 or so, so I'm thinking eight to 10. Isn't that the worst, that first moment? I remember maybe when I was like seven or eight, a pool, no, no, no, at a pool, one of my friends is like, hey, see if you can hold your hands together in front of you like this. And I did and he's like, look, you have tits. And I was like, God, tired.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And I was in. And I was just like, fuck, like I never. I'm so young. They let me off easy. Like you're saying like your name's weird. Right, when you're young, you don't even think about these things in that first moment. You think about it, you're like, well, this will,
Starting point is 01:00:04 this will be something new, new insecurity unlocked for the rest of my life. Content 30 years later though. On the plus side, you got that going for it. People remember it too. Yeah, no, it was weird. Like, you guys, I'm sure you guys, to the, you know, 100th degree deal with this,
Starting point is 01:00:17 but like, you know, we're gonna, yes, be on to big company. And, you know, I've been there for over a decade now. And all the people, like, amazing people that work and like, studio operations, but like all the time, you know, it's a different career every single day. Hey, Field, how's it going? You're like, shit.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah. I know, like we've definitely said hello, we've definitely introduced ourselves before, but like that might have been eight years from now. And it's like, hey, pal, do this recently, like the worst names to be called in house. Buddy, that's a lot of fun. Anybody more?
Starting point is 01:00:46 Way too much. You gotta get a little older and you can do sport. Are you now, are you subconsciously rooting for Justin Fields? Uh, yes. Okay, not even some kind of sport. Okay, just outwardsing, yeah. Cause you have to have a little bit of kinship there. Totally, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And, you know, I'm not trying to like cater to the home team here now, but, you know, Ryan Polz and I my first job out of college, I get hired by the chiefs to go work as a scouting assistant, which is as entry level of a scouting job is there is in the NFL. And we had there were three desks in one room. And it was me, Ryan Polz. Now the Bears GM also are at the same time. And then I got in my poor God's he's the chief's GM, chief's assistant GM excuse me. So like the three of us were in this fish bowl together for a couple of years. And so, you know, you like to see people that you know do well.
Starting point is 01:01:33 So if Justin Veele does well, then Ryan Poles might be the king of the city. Yeah, I didn't realize you were, how long were you in the NFL for? Two seasons with the chiefs. So the first year was scouting assistant. In my second year, I was Todd Haley's right hand man. Oh, wow, that crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:48 That's awesome. I have very limited experience with Todd Haley. I've met him a few times, usually at the combine. Yeah, we might take the story out, but last time I was hanging out, he just showed me pictures of his wife's tits. He was like, check this out. We're not taking that out.
Starting point is 01:02:00 We're not taking that out. Seriously? Well, he did show it to me. He was showing it to like a group of group, like check them out. Pretty much. I had a great experience. So my second year, it. We're not too serious. Well, he didn't show it to me. He was showing it to people. Like, people who like check them out. Pretty much. I had a great experience. So my second year, it's actually like not the,
Starting point is 01:02:08 not the D rail where that were. This was going, but so when I had, so when I first got hired, there was like five of us that got hired in the summer of 2009. Three of us in the scouting staff, the guys I mentioned, and then one of the coaches, Nick Siergani. So Nick Siergani, now the Eagles head coach was the
Starting point is 01:02:24 quality control offensive coach, or the offensive quality control coach. He was like, really at Todd's mercy. I was, you know, a little more, was like a slightly larger buffer. But yeah, Nick Ciriani, and I love people, I was like, yeah, so you knew back then, right? Total, you know, like 22 year old me knew
Starting point is 01:02:39 that 23 year old Nick Ciriani was gonna, in a second year be a Super Bowl head coach and like have it all figured out. But it's been great to fall those guys. Was the goal to get to being like a head coach? Is that what you ultimately wanted to achieve? Or did you, like I'm gonna play the long game and make a lasting football game?
Starting point is 01:02:56 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, the goal was to be in football for a long time. The lifestyle is a little different than, I'm from Massachusetts. And like moving out to Kansas City when I first got out there, like your first like a few years at a college Between high school reunions like five year high school reunions My friends who were on like the early adopters of getting married and like having kids you know like shit like I'm three years out of college and I have not been to one significant life event. Right that probably a way
Starting point is 01:03:21 Don't be more than I expected it to yeah, I think it was more of a life decision The the five year reun reunion is a crocus shit. Yeah, totally no You put so much weight into it at the moment. You're like oh, I got to have my shit together I got some friends that are like making six figures in finance right and in reality the five year reunion is basically It's utterly meaningless. You're like the anti-Tailu Yes, I lose said that he missed six different funerals and everyone's like, dude, you had six funerals in like a month and the clippers suck last year.
Starting point is 01:03:51 So you're the anti-tailu, but that's respectful. So two years of the chiefs. Yep, that came back. I came back, I was living in back in Massachusetts. I moved back in with my mom, which, you know, that's the kind of thing that'll humble you at whatever 24, 25 years old. And then a little different than Todd Haley.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Little different than working with Todd Haley every single day My mom had slightly different priorities than Todd did, you know like and different schedule too So and then I started like the media thing I was like and not the date ourselves But like you guys remember like the days of having a blog. I mean, yeah, you guys came into prominence They still obviously you guys still obviously have a very strong online presence, but Twitter was not in full force at that point. Obviously Instagram and TikTok and all these stuff was not nearly where it was. So I started the blog and being in Boston,
Starting point is 01:04:35 there's so many outlets there. So I had a million different places to try to reach out to. And I had the same experience that most people do. Like no one responds to your emails. And then one person, a guy at ESPN Boston, like Reeves who covers the Patriot 3S band who responded to my email. And that was the start of my ESPN career.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Which, you're a genius. Two years with the chiefs, you get to put that on your resume. And be like, yeah, I worked in the NFL for two years. Yeah, I mean, that's the best part. It's people are like, so like, you know, you're the my homes, like, really? Like, if not for your contributions,
Starting point is 01:05:03 Patrick, the homes would not be achieved. You never know. I mean, it is, it's is it's the butterfly yeah, maybe there was something you Prove otherwise you got Alex Smith the right smoothie. He went out there played well I was ended up in right the exact position to trade a draft you know We actually had a gem of a quarterback room when I was there. This is pre-alc Smith So Matt Castle. Oh, so like oh, yeah, it was a baby Patriots. Yeah. Yep. So Castle, Vrable God trade of there that same off season, Vrable absolute legend obviously. And I swore, I was like, I was so positive he would never coach after football because
Starting point is 01:05:33 he seemed like one of those guys that was like, you know, he was so like football clearly was like his entire life leading up to it. But one of those guys that just felt like whenever it was time, he was going to be so at peace, he had accomplished so much that you felt like whenever it was time, he was gonna be so at peace, and he accomplished so much that you're like, you can't possibly go up from being a three time champion and like whatever it was, 12 catches for 12 touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And here he is, whatever, a decade later, and great head coach. But Brody Croyle, Alabama legend, third up picket throw the ball, Thrick and Mile, it's great. And Matt Castle. Tyler Palco. Palco was there. Yeah. Palco through that pass against the bears. It's end of half, uh, hell.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah. Yeah. Remember that. Yeah. Nobody left the quarterbacks anymore. Yeah. Uh, and then he had that game. We started the one that I flip all against the Patriots actually. So Palco, hey, what a legend. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Great. Yeah. That's a, that's a solid quarterback room. That's just great names. I remember those, those chiefs, um, they were, that's a solid quarterback room. That's just great names. I remember those chiefs, they were, they had a lot of people from the Patriots organization
Starting point is 01:06:29 in the front office, right? And my theory has been that Belicek sends his disciples across the league to destroy all his teams and then come home to tear down franchises from the inside. Did you get that vibe when you were there? I mean, it's hard to argue otherwise, right? Yeah, look at the track record, yeah. I mean, how many head coaches?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Like, if you consider Brable Disciple, I feel like that's kind of... That's stretching. That's how you played for him. That feels different to me. Like, is Kevin O'Connell a disciple? He played for Bella Check, right? Yeah. But yeah, it has not been, I wouldn't say the track record
Starting point is 01:07:00 is exactly sterling in post-patriot chapter. Are you, my other theory is that you're a mouthpiece for the New England Patriots, is that fair to say? Yeah, I'd say that's pretty much like how you as a fellow check, right? So prior to my chief's time, I spent four, it's hard to call it an internship because there's not like an online application
Starting point is 01:07:19 that you go and you apply to like, Patriots sort of like scouting intern. But I spent four summers and then I went to college in Connecticut. So getting home during it went to break was easy. I went to like every, like four straight years basically. I was at every Patriotraining camp during the, when I was back home for any kind of breaks. I was at the Patriot facility. I go to all the games, home and road games, which is awesome for me.
Starting point is 01:07:43 And like the, the Super Bowl they lost against the Giants, the perfect season. There's like this infamous photo that friends send to me whenever it pops up. Me like, like, gnawing on my long sleeve shirt. Right behind Belicechek. Yes. Very frank to tanks, dial. And yeah, so four years of the Patriots, which is kind of like my, that was like my, I call like my Rosetta Stone, right?
Starting point is 01:08:04 Like that was where I kind of learned it all. So yeah, I mean, Pellatechek may or may not have had a conversation with you on the way out the door. I was like, I think Candice Teddy would treat you well, you know, like having really infiltrated the Midwest yet. It's given a couple of years. There's nothing to happen. They're building something up.
Starting point is 01:08:19 I'm not a word about it. I want to put in the person that snapped his tree in the van, scout. Yeah, he said, I just got in the head of it, right? He's like, right? Scout. Yeah, he said. I just hadn't had it. Right? They've got Tyler Palco and Brody Croyle. I'd, they're up next. I want you to, I want you to destroy that friendship.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But his bell check son, Steve, the white who's now their defensive play car and I say me age. So we were right there together. It was great. It was great. Great. Great dude. It would be a great PMT guest one day.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah. Great. I know. I know he's like one of your white whales. Yeah, I do it. That will do it. Does he have the same bill bellicic voice or does he put that on just to mess with the meat like that? That is a carbon copy. That's like a little bit like it's just jarring where it's like it's a sharring. You're just like, yeah, it's like that's awesome. They are the same people. Um, my is the hair. Yeah. All right. Let's talk some ball. Let's do it. I want to I want to do the start with the thought starter. Give me the seven teams that are going to the playoffs in the AFC. Not, you know what? I had a, but I was, I was hanging out with
Starting point is 01:09:12 a buddy today here in Chicago and he was like, have you guys talked about what you're going to discuss? And I was like, I figured we'll just crank it up. Talk ball. Yeah. And then he was like, well, who's making the playoffs in the AFC? So we have this conversation. Okay, you go. Division winners, bills, big time all the way in, bangles, jaguars, chiefs. Okay, I would say nothing surprising there. Okay. You tightens guy.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I feel like this is a classic variable spot where everyone's forgotten the Titans. It's definitely a variable team. And they had that losing streak last year where they were 10 hills out for some of it. And like this will be the year that everyone's anointed the Jaguars. It's like, oh, shit, we forgot about the Titans.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Also, I don't know if you guys have the same experience watching quarterback, my homes talking about the Titans in the week leading up to their game was like, this was like Malik Willis was starting and they that game went to overtime. It was like Willis's first start. And he kept the defense is so tough and like one of the hardest groups will face all season you're like you do sort of forget the variable effect. Um, all right. Yeah. And then um, jets dolphins, Ravens. So the great teams from the AFC East. Okay. So that means no chargers. No chargers. That means no browns. Yeah. That means no Steelers. No Steelers. Yeah. I think this
Starting point is 01:10:20 week comes to an end this year. It's it's so that I asked that because it's crazy how stacked the AFC is, that you do the seven teams and then you leave out like three or four teams that it's not inconceivable. Some of those teams could be in the soup bowl. So I charge the jets. Yeah, they want, I mean, they all think they're going there. Yeah, right? I always, the question I was asked people is, so if you put the Steelers in the NFC South right now. Oh my God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah. And the Saints are gonna be legit, obviously. I think they're gonna be good, but don't you feel pretty good about the Steelers competing for at least a wild card spot in the NFC? Yes. But you think that they're not gonna be 500 this year?
Starting point is 01:10:56 I think this week comes to an end. Wow. That would be sad. Which sounds crazy coming off. No, I am after the preseason too, right? Five touchdowns on five drives. Sure, Steelers fans, I will be thrilled about this. You know, if you look at that stretch, like the last month of last year,
Starting point is 01:11:11 or five and nine at one point, like the quarterback, and you play on the schedule, I'm not trying to say they have any influence over that. But like that was, like that was getting by the, by the skin of their teeth last year. Yeah. And they're obviously incredibly well coached. And they do have tons of individual talent. Just that someone has to be lasting that division, right? And you think that's the sealer's not the browns.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Are you backing on to Sean Watson as a human? So I try to start there. Pass on that one. So what's the more representative sample size? Is it five seasons or is it one season? And the, my brain wants to say it's five seasons where he was, you know, this amazing top five ish quarterback.
Starting point is 01:11:53 And then last year, falls off a cliff. It's been, like, this preseason was predominantly from the Browns. Yeah. And like, I feel like, and I could be wrong here. I feel like during the training camps, like, beat riders probably tend to have a much more, a much rosier outlook on the teams they cover.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I feel like every team, we're days away from the season starting. Best shape of their life. I kinda feel like everybody's gonna be better than they're actually gonna be right now. But even the Browns reporting's been pretty downtrodden about the Sean's performance this summer. More questions and answers, not totally sure this is gonna pay off.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And for a franchise that's had as many failures at the quarterback spot, like this would by far take the cake. Yeah, be the crown jewel. When you look at the contract that they gave him. Yes, but this is like, but don't, like this is the team and I think they wear this crown now.
Starting point is 01:12:39 It may be that for a while the chargers were there, maybe the Broncos were there previously, but like every year the Browns roster looks good. Yeah. Like where's the major weakness for the Browns this year? I don't have a team, a spot that I'm like, well, they don't, you know, they have, they got wide receivers now, the offensive lines good.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Nick Chubbs, the man like defensively, it's like every level they've got a player who could be a legitimate pro bowl or defensive player that you're like, miles Garrett. So it's hard to pinpoint like that part is a major weakness for them. But until they prove it, it's like they have that that sort of stink on them that the chargers
Starting point is 01:13:13 in recent years and even the Broncos, which we thought would go away last year with Russ, I've had in the past like half decade. So why chargers no playoffs? It's a bold take, I like it. Just vibes. Yeah, it's not. No, no, no, they, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that. Yeah, I feel like, and right when I, I think right after Herbert signed his extension, like they had a, like a video that had been pre-made and like it somehow like it referenced that game and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:13:51 I mean, Don't right now, like, dude, we just got the guy signed up. He's now signed for seven more years. I'm like, I don't need to hear about, yeah, it was great, great first half. No, like the charges, like I think that the argument
Starting point is 01:14:03 against a team, any team that you like in the AFC not making the playoffs is much more an argument about teams that you do like. Right, right. Ravens, I think are a sleeping giant. I think they're, at this point you can't call them a sleeping giant, but a team that probably is not discussed as much as Buffalo, Kansas City,
Starting point is 01:14:18 and Cincinnati, I think is awesome. They've got, they always punch above their weight. And Tyler Huntly almost beat the Bengals. Like we used to be like... Yeah, the Pro-Bor-Towel Hunt. But like vibes are legit, like legitimately, like, has a team changed how you felt about them more from the start of the regular, of the offseason to right now.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Like, there was a time where it felt like Lamar was done. Like, we'll never play there again. They had no wide receivers and all of a sudden you're like, Lamar, five years, great, fired up to be there. Last year was just bizarre. The last time, like, I know it was an injury, but I think we'd all be naive if we think that like his contract and his just general frustration with the organization was not contributing to it. So I love the Ravens this year and then I'm having a hard time like the Jets and the dolphins. Like I'm having a hard time like the jets and the dolphins
Starting point is 01:15:06 like I'm having a hard time finding a way to differentiate between the two of them. Like the Jalen Ramsey injury doesn't help, but they should be so much better. I forgot I forgot like. I was there. He's so good. He's a walking top 10 defense. Yeah, it reminds me a lot of what McVeigh did when he brought in Wade Phillips. It's like you got the new school guy. You got the old school guy running the show on defense.
Starting point is 01:15:27 It tends to work. Yeah, he'll get the most out of them. That's just what McVeigh fan Joe does. Like coming into last year, it wasn't lack of talent that betrayed them on defense. Like they just didn't play well at all last year defensively. And, you know, with the jets, like, you know, the offensive line we'll be discussing a million different ways. And what makes me nervous about any of the teams that I picked is that if you just go through, And, you know, with the jets, like, you know, the offensive line will be discussed a million different ways. And what makes me nervous about any of the teams that I picked is that if you just go
Starting point is 01:15:48 through, and I try to do this for every single team, but like the jets first four games, bills, caboes, Patriots, chiefs. Yeah. Like if you go one and three there, yeah, own four is possible. Yeah. The whole season has, you know, that's like it's do you fight a pill battle? Yeah, I mean it's basically impossible But um, yeah, so chargers the argument's probably less about them and more about just like the strength of the Ravens Jets and bills It's not you it's me
Starting point is 01:16:15 You're leaving out of the Fc. There are a lot of people listen to this podcast. I gotta make sure that I protect myself Oh, no one will get mad at you That's why you've got a charge of fan real life? I've met one. Yeah, well we have changed. Yeah. We'll change our producers. Yeah. There's my first.
Starting point is 01:16:30 So how about this? Let's do, um, give me your top six quarterbacks in the NFL and then we'll delete one of them. Okay. And we'll put it on the graphics of one fan base. We'll get really angry at you. Oh, okay. And we won't tell you which one.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Okay. All right. So delete my homes. Well, we don't know. No, no, we won't tell you which one. Yeah. All right. So delete my homes. No, no, no, no, no. We won't tell you. Okay. All right. My homes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hertz, Lamar Jackson, and man, it's hard to not have Aaron Roger on this list even after last year, but I will go to Lamar Jackson. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:57 So you are a believer in Aaron Rogers this year because we had a discussion, Hank and PFT think the Sean Watson is going to have a better year than Aaron Rogers. I didn't necessarily say that. I don't think I think that's exactly what you said. I might have said. I forget. I say a lot of things. But I was the exact bet. I just think that it's always more difficult than you think to just transfer into a brand new organization. But he brought all his guys.
Starting point is 01:17:17 And think that everything is gonna be the same. I got sucked in by hard knocks. Like, this may not be like a vintage hard-knots season. No, I know. I'm not a full-of-believement. You know, it's such a ridiculous and like oversimplified way of analyzing football, but it's like, yeah, you just seem so enthused and happy again, right? But it makes me think more and more that while Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 01:17:39 got that extension a couple of years ago in Green Bay and like played nice for an extra year too, like he wanted out and like this is energized him in a way that could legitimately impact the product on the field. So if the jets can protect their Roger, that'd be fine. Yeah, that's a big, that's a big if though. It's a huge, it's a great, because he goes from Green Bay, which is maybe the best offensive line in football or at least one of the three best offensive lines in football to the jets
Starting point is 01:18:03 who, like there's like one fifth of the offensive line, I feel definitely really good about. Oh, give us top five offensive lines. Ooh, it's good. There's important Eagles. Eagles number one. I will go with Packers, Chiefs, Cowboys, and... Trying to think of it in my hands.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Is there like, oh, line, it's good one. Yes, thank you for answering that for me. Lions right there in the mix as well. Browns would be another one that I would consider. Not to like get two football like nerdy here, but like, there's like a epidemic right now of like, of offensive line depth. That was one of the biggest things that I remember.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Like during preseason, I'm like, holy, like, you're one injury away from like a serious problem. Yeah. I'm rising right now. Yeah. What do you think that is? I mean, there are people who feel like, you know, the influence of the spread offense in college has led to these offensive linemen are playing.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Yeah. I mean, they're playing from a two point stance every single snap, right? And like the habits, this is like some of my scouting buddies will talk about how like there are offensive linemen that we draft draft and the first thing we have to do before we can like train them in our system is untrain them in their system. It's like a two-step process where the development period is a lot longer and we've never had more inpatient GMs
Starting point is 01:19:17 or owners really in the NFL that like, you whiff on a third-round pick and it's like you're held accountable in a way that you probably weren't a decade ago. And it also, that's interesting because it does, like my answer for the AFC is basically whichever seven teams are gonna be the healthiest and I know that sounds very reductive and like no duh.
Starting point is 01:19:38 But it's so loaded that it's like whichever team can basically avoid the huge injury bug of this list of 11-12 teams that you could say are like have a legitimate chance will be the teams. Yeah There's and there's like three teams maybe in the AFC that I'm like I have a really tough path like I think like Houston is gonna be really tough path to get to the playoffs and he's gonna be like a really tough path to get to the playoffs Maybe like I'm not I'm not there with the Raiders, right? Like sort of a weird, they're in this weird, not quite an identity crisis right now as a franchise,
Starting point is 01:20:10 but like they spent a quarter of a billion dollars a year ago. And this off season it was like, training away players like Darren Waller and sort of like keeping the band back together and training away, you know, or cutting Darren Carr. Like, I don't know that on paper, I think there are like a much better team than they were last year when they were whatever,
Starting point is 01:20:26 6 and 11, so other than those three, like I think every other team is kind of telling itself right now, like, yeah, we plan to make the playoffs. Yeah, what about one guy I'm very excited about? This might just be from watching too much, you know, too many YouTube videos on watch out for this guy, he's gonna be the biggest weapon that you don't see coming in Justin Ross on the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah. Like they basically got what should have been a first round pick, and they got him for nothing. watch out for this guy, he's gonna be the biggest weapon that you don't see coming and Justin Ross on the chiefs. Like they basically got what should have been a first round pick and they got him for nothing. And I just saw, I saw one highlight where the chiefs tweeted out like you just got Rossed. Yeah. And he looks unstoppable. And with him and Patrick Momes together,
Starting point is 01:20:57 I feel like that's gonna be, he's gonna be a touchdown machine. Fantasy Brain and me has bent like way too much time this off season, talking himself into every chief wide receiver. You could put the least talented receiver in the NFL in the chiefs, and I'd be top 25 outcome. Upside is there. You have my homes, you got a chance.
Starting point is 01:21:13 But dude, Justin Rossing College, he was freshman year, was one of the best players in the country. I had some really scary neck issues during college, which kept him off the field for a while, and that was part of the reason why he went undrafted. But like, Finnersoff is college career in a high note, and definitely has like, you know, like some of the unteachable stuff, like size and speed. I'm trying to like, sort of, probably the biggest thing
Starting point is 01:21:37 that's allowed me to contain the hype is just that, like last year they didn't have a dominant receiver and my home still had the NFL in passing hours. Yeah, my home, like Justin Ross could be a healthy scratch or he could like not be on the team in week three and that probably still average 32 points per game. He also won receivers. Yeah. Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:21:52 He also gets the benefit of I'm going to think that he's John Ross who I still believe in. He's so fast. Yeah, so fast. I know when he retired, it was like that was like a month ago. I was like that, that like took a little piece out of my heart. Yeah. Like, what the hell?
Starting point is 01:22:03 That guy, how do you fail? He was so fast. I and like now watching college football players, like getting ready for the like the 2024 draft already, I'm already like, I'm gonna fall like there are certain things that are just incredibly difficult to not be totally like enamored by. And like a guy who can run a four, like there's always a soft spot. My heart for a four-two guy. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Jon Ross. Different. Yes. Um, let's talk about something you don't really spend that much time on on ESPN. Hank's favorite team, the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I know. So, a big year for them. You guys don't really discuss them that much. They're flying under the radar a little bit. It's so funny to say that.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Yeah, I've been, so I spent, so Laura Rutledge, the host of NFL Live, was I'm eternally for the summer, so I spent four months sitting in for her, and I'm not exaggerating. It's just like part of the calculus, right? Like it's, it makes sense. It would be production negligence to not talk about. Yeah, people can imagine us when we talk about LeBron, it's like, but people wanna hear about LeBron. They wanna hear about it.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah, that's just a fact. We find a way, so we find a way every day. It's like, and I'm telling you that like, the numbers would bear out. Yeah, like, if you did a extremely nuanced conversation about the hey, I think the Vikings front sevens really looking strong this year. You broke down each player individually,
Starting point is 01:23:14 and then it was like, will Dak improve or regress this year? Does Dak suck? Will Dak pro left hand in this year? That's actually for seven minutes. That's a good segment. Let's talk about does Dak suck? Yeah, that doesn't I think. No, he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he is a byproduct of the the star in his helmet.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I'm a big you know what I I become like beat up at at Panama City beach on spring break. That was probably the point that we knew is a lot of the question. I'm a dad I'm a dad I am a dad guy. What does that mean? What does that mean knew is a little bit of a question by the future. No, I'm a deck, I am a deck guy. What does that mean? What does that mean? Yeah, I mean like seriously. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 01:23:50 It's a good question. All right, so here's the answer. Is that like, I feel like so much, the NFL is not like the NBA, where I feel like the NBA, so much of our interest is the offseason, right? Like we're just as like James Hardin's next team is just as interesting as like what
Starting point is 01:24:06 he's doing that current season, right? I feel like with the NFL, it's really not the case except for when it comes to quarterback futures, right? It's like going into this season like every year, three quarterbacks. It's like, hey, if Mac Jones isn't ball out this year, like are the Patriots in the more like could they be a Caleb Williams team next year? It's like they haven't played a game yet. Justin Fields, if you know the Bears have two first round picks,
Starting point is 01:24:29 like could they be the team, right? They have that fifth year option. They have to pick up after this year. So quarterbacks, the only spot where I feel like a quarterbacks future is a 365 day topic for us. Even the heat of like eight to week seven, we're coming off of an epic Monday night game. So I keep, I think where I am pretty disposed
Starting point is 01:24:46 to think about is like, even after trading, the cab was not trade for trade lands to replace Dak Prescott next off season, right? Like they're gonna keep Dak around. And by the way, at some point I expect Dak to sign like a pretty unbelievable extension, like probably $50 million or more per year. And it's gonna, like, the internet's gonna hate it.
Starting point is 01:25:04 It sucks. No, I'm a Dak guy. Yeah, the internet's gonna hate it. It sucks. No, I'm a dash. I was a shitty quarterback. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I think that, like, this will be, this will be a bounce back day. I'm a bounce back day. I'm right. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:16 All right. So give us this, give us the seven NFC teams. I make probably in a weird way as hard as this with the AFC. It might be harder for the NFC because Yeah, because you have to find the, you have to find the dig for those six and seven. Division winners, Eagles. I know I've seen yours, I don't like, I took the Vikings previously and I,
Starting point is 01:25:32 like I couldn't like, could not warm up to that pick that strongly, but Eagles Vikings, Saints, I feel good about that one. Yeah. And then Ford Niners. Seahawks make it back this year. Cowboys, Lions for the South. Okay, all right. Lions make it back this year. Cowboys, Lions for the second. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Lions get it. So Giants out. Yeah, but interesting. But like they're going to be better than they were. That they're more talented team than they were last year. But you go back to last season and there's very few things that you can like definitely count on year over year in the NFL. One thing you can count on is like close game luck will not persist.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Yeah. Which is one of the reasons why the Vikings are like a close call, even after going 13 and four, but was it every game except for two last year was a one score game in the four year? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I couldn't say that. If you win a lot of close games and you do it consistently, wouldn't you say like Brian Debel has something to do with that. They're doing the small things correctly. Yeah. Make the ball bounce their way. I know you can't control like fumble luck. That's one of our favorite things to look up
Starting point is 01:26:27 is fumble luck. There are like certain places in sports where I buy that. It's like Chris Paul, in a prior iteration of Chris Paul. Like as teams were always great in like clutch time, like you know, plus minus or whatever. But like there are very few like teams that I think have shown themselves capable
Starting point is 01:26:44 of keeping it up. You're even the chiefs a couple of years ago, like I think it was the year after like the Mahomes break out. Maybe it was the second year. I mean, Mahomes is so ridiculous that every year feels like a little bit like more of a breakout. But they started the season like three and four because it was like after winning every close game. No, it was Mahomes second season. They like they didn't cover, but they won like 12 straight down the season, but they covered one of those 12. And then the following year, they started three and four. It's just like hard to the braiders or this, the evidence of this last year, the Vikings will be evidence of this this year, but going from 13 to four to like 10 and seven is still. And the answer to make the playoffs. Yeah, I could do it.
Starting point is 01:27:20 So yeah, it's the giants definitely had some fourth quarter favor last year that is difficult to replicate. But the officials in the commanders giant can potentially you said it not means. Well, I was. That was not a football. It's not not a football. That was not a whole shit. The tears of the corn lining up and the judge throwing a flag
Starting point is 01:27:38 on him even though he checked. That was bad vibes are high right now with your commanders. They are. Yeah, I've been telling people we are we have the system We have Patrick Rome's assistant. Yeah, we do also there's like it's usually when a quarterback like goes in the fifth round And we're talking ourselves into him. I'm kind of like He's still with the fifth round, right? Like it's still like I probably haven't for a reason You didn't see Steven Chase mocked draft the way too early one. Yeah, no, we had Sam hell number one overall
Starting point is 01:28:02 I was starting to for something I'm working on right now. Yes ESPN. I started to look back at because I was looking at some stuff for this upcoming year and you're looking back at the first mock drafts from prior years. And it's just a reminder of like how much can change from your beer. And I saw Sam how. Yeah. Like number one overall. And like North Carolina's like I mean, I was beyond Drake May like they've got two receivers, like they're loaded this year and skill position players on offense, but they had like that baby drought
Starting point is 01:28:29 during Samhouse final year of North Carolina that I think maybe the NFL over thought on Sam Howe. Yeah, if you were to redraft Sam Howe right now. Almost a second, amongst a second year quarterbacks. Yeah, so it's Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis, Sam Howe, and who am I forgetting? I'm sure there's somebody. Oh, Brock Purdy, Bailey Zappy.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Macarral. Macarral, yeah, so in the mix. You know, I think, well, can't pick it'll be one and then I think it would be a, I think Sam Howell be two. There we go. So we're already moving up the board. Maybe moved up to a second round.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Oh, you know, I got a fan for Narsman's, I'm sure, throw it with that. Yeah, it's a, it's a a Brock Pertis Sam Hal Conversation. Brock Pertis is going to be a fascinating player this year too, because don't want to take away from a kid who helped them win a ton of games last year, but like that is is brilliant of a coaching system as there is right now. He's got expectations now for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I saw the I loved going back to a preseason. I think it was the final for dinner is preseason game. Like Brock Pertis through like a four yard out to Brandon Ayuk, who ran like 47 yards for a touchdown. Yeah. And football aggregators have definitely taken over, you know, Twitter these days, right? And like one of them like posted,
Starting point is 01:29:35 like just took the clip from the NFL and just posted it all caps Brock Pertey. Yeah. Respect. So I respect the dedication to Brock Pertey loyalty. We're gonna get back to Field Yates in a second. He's've heard you. Time to respect the dedication to Brock Fertiloyalty. We're going to get back to Field Yates in a second. He's brought to you by sleep number. Sleep number smart beds learn how you sleep and they provide personalized insights to help
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Starting point is 01:32:18 it was a major whiff. Like they should have stuck to their guns, which if they, I truly feel like the internet persuade, persuaded them. Like, when they made that trade, the trade was made in like March. Yeah. Which you don't see a lot of trades made that early before the draft. A lot of them are day of the draft or even the bear's trade with the Panthers last year was fairly early. That was, I think, the Friday before free agency.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Usually, it's the days or the hours leading up to the draft. They made that trade in March. And at that point, we all know Trevor was going one, but it was probably leaning heavily towards that going to, but there was still some question mark about who the, the 49ers would have at their disposal at pick three. And Chefty, who of course is dialed in as anybody was like, yeah, the intention is to take Mac Jones. And then like that had, I don't know, maybe a weak swarth of momentum.
Starting point is 01:33:07 And then everybody was like, how could you take Mac Jones third overall, even though he had just thrown for like 5,000 yards without able to do a perfect season and was absurd. And then it became like the upside of Traylance. My football buddy is talking about this all the time. Whenever they're in meetings, when they're talking about players on a different team,
Starting point is 01:33:25 they can always talk themselves into the upside of a guy more so than they can in their own team. Right. In a sky, we're sitting here, like examine, he got cut, he's on the waiver wire today. The upside's kind of intriguing.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Right. He got cut from the worst teams defense in the NFL. The upside probably is what it is. The upside is, you claim him that he's cut in two weeks. people think they can fix a problem. Of course, right. I used to, I mean, not the, you love Jay. So I used to talk about this with Jay Cutler all the time,
Starting point is 01:33:52 is that like coaches are built with like a certain, and I say this like in a way of admiration, they have an arrogance about them, which is part of the reason why they're successful. Jay Cutler was like the litmus test for that, right? Because Jay was so talented, right? But hadn't experienced a ton of team success, but every coach who coached him was like,
Starting point is 01:34:11 this guy can be, like I can make this guy. Like our team can be great with him. And by the way, Adam Gase was like rewarded for that in Miami that year when he got him out of retirement. He's like, helped them win a lot of games. But that's I think the case often with quarterbacks. As you see, you know, you don't bother think the case often with quarterbacks is you see, you know, you don't bother with quite as much of the downside is you do by being an
Starting point is 01:34:29 amber by the upside. And I don't know what the what the future is for tray, tray lance. But when you factor in being the Cowboys back up for at least this year and probably next as well, that's going to be five full seasons basically if football, yeah. How can you expect that guy to be like, in 20, not actually six, because you only played one game in the COVID? Well, four of, four of NFL and one college, who had that central Arkansas game, was finally here at North Dakota State. And you're like, so five full years,
Starting point is 01:34:59 and is anybody gonna be, unless Dak gets hurt and then trade plays. Yeah. Yeah. Now, we talked about him glowingly. Like, is Traygan have like a market to become a starter in 2025? There will be a coach that's like someone will dislike. Traylant.
Starting point is 01:35:15 He was picked what? Third overall? I fall for that all the time. I mean, even the Cowboys trading for him, I was like of the teams that I had thought about can guarantee I put zero seconds of effort into the Cowboys. Yeah. I never had all the same usual suspects everybody else, right? Like, with the bucks, do it, with the Vikings do it,
Starting point is 01:35:31 with the teams that have a question mark after this year, with they consider doing it, and the cabois never registered for me. What's, this is a tough question, but you're smart guy. What's the next, Zag on in the NFL? like we've seen it, you know, obviously passing his, his king now, now you've seen a lot of teams play cover two and we had that whole discussion. Oh, can my homes beat this like, you know, dinking, dunking down the, down the field? What's the next thing you see coming,
Starting point is 01:36:00 whether it be defense or offense, the teams are going to start to do. I think we're seeing this like the giants are probably the best example of it right now with like the approach they have, but positionless defense, baby. Let's go. Okay. I think it's difficult. Yeah, the amoeba. I like the old Rex answer.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Special, but the, so the giants made a train in the preseason for Isaiah Simmons, who, you guys remember from Clemson? I mean, freak. I remember I was at the combine the year that he was coming out and it was like jaw dropping. Everybody was talking about him and only him amongst the 250 guys that were there. And you're like, it doesn't matter where he plays, he's going to be insane. Right. And instead, he goes to the Cardinals and the problem was that he was like never good enough
Starting point is 01:36:40 anywhere to ever stick. So that's why he got traded for, you know, a seventh round pick. But wink, martin dale, their defensive coordinator is just crazy enough to do so. Like just be like, you know what? He's played safety, linebacker, slot corner. He's going to be a nose tackle for us. And next thing you know, he's going to have like, you know, eight sacks and make, you know, like make the pro bowl. We're all going to go to wink, friggin' martin Dale. So, but we're seeing more and more of that now. Like, I've never been at the senior bowl this past year and seen like 220 pound linebackers or like these defensive ends who look wiry,
Starting point is 01:37:11 but they can, like, they're just unblockable for these tackles that aren't Trent Williams type athletes. So, that could be one that I, like we could see more of. I like that answer. There's a kid from Iowa, Cooper Jean, the defensive back who's like, ball hawk. I don't know if he's a kid from Iowa, Cupergine, the defensive back who's like ballhawk. I don't know if he's a safety corner, linebacker in the NFL, but just finds the ball. We're seeing, I think that's one example of many of the defensive players in this upcoming
Starting point is 01:37:35 draft that are going to be more and more invoked these days. I love that. I remember the Steelers with their zone blitz as they used to drop James Harrison back into coverage sometimes. Yeah, James could do it all. He was a monster. Also, the only person like that, I think the only person that trains harder
Starting point is 01:37:50 after they were tired than terrifying. Makes no sense. Well, JJ, what now? JJ, he's a lot of those 16 ounce curls. Yeah, drink those Guinnesses. What about the offensive side? I guess like the NFL is due to pay like more of a tight end tax. Like one of the things that I will never understand
Starting point is 01:38:10 and I think he would certainly have a leg to stand on if he decided to make this his fight. Travis Kelsey would be like the 27th high as paid wider seeker. If you just made him a wider seeker, right? Like it's absurd that a guy who, how many wider seevers are you right now unquestionably taking over Travis Kelsey for this season?
Starting point is 01:38:30 You could trade Travis Kelsey. For you, maybe? Yeah, maybe. Jefferson, Jefferson, and like, Did you have maybe Tyree? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Have a conversation. Yeah, have a conversation. Seriously, right? The chiefs kept, they kept Travis Kelsey, but you could make a conversation around maybe three or four of them Like the chiefs kept, you know, they kept, they kept having a scalcity. But like, you can make a conversation around like maybe three or four of them. He makes like half of what Tyree Kill makes.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Yeah. And it's hard, you know, there's only, there's obviously only so many of these good tight ends. But we're due for like a little bit of a tight end tax because there are guys like Brock Bauer from Georgia this year is gonna be a problem. Like there's some legit college prospects that give me some hope that the tight end spot
Starting point is 01:39:04 can get closer in line. It was why when the running back, you know, everybody, like that was like a great June to early July conversation was running back markets and how we need to like fix the system. All right. Like you can't really fix the system way that it's set up. It's like my buddies in the league. The GMs are doing they were they just like, you guys are the,
Starting point is 01:39:25 what a waste of your time. You guys are the biggest fucking idiots talking about the system. Like, it's never gonna happen. Like, we're not gonna undo the CBA to, like, just correct. I can't run back. You can't do it. Yeah, mid CBA. What's next time we can talk about something different
Starting point is 01:39:39 with a franchise tag you can do? Sure, if you want to talk about that and apply it to all the students, that's fine. But like, people are saying like, you know, running back should deserve, they deserve the chance to renegotiate as soon as after one season. Like Patrick Maholms should deserve to negotiate after one game. That's like, if we're just going to bend the rules, right? Like, that should be how it is. So, um, who I like that though. I feel one game. All contracts are game by game.
Starting point is 01:40:02 That could be, yeah. Complicating but good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would have made everyone love that, right? They had a bad game. I have no idea how the draft works in this respect, but if you're a top running back, coming out of college. Yep.
Starting point is 01:40:14 And you just, maybe it's after your junior year, you don't declare for the draft until after the draft's over. And then go for the supplemental draft? Yeah, go for the supplemental draft, or I don't know, is there a way that you can get that supplemental draft pick used on you, and then the contract's gonna be different, so you hit free agency a little bit faster?
Starting point is 01:40:31 I don't know. Yeah, there's some ways to gain the system. Like, probably your best bet would be like, fake an injury, because you'd become like an undrafted free agent. I'd be awesome at that. You know, undrafted free agents are eligible to extend after two seasons,
Starting point is 01:40:44 so you could be up to something here. You just got to, you got to eat shit for two years, but then you get that big contract. Who do you think it's a different year this year, but like, who do things like, I mean, it's early, but do we have any like the best back in college football right now? Brilliant out. And now I'm probably on the short list, right? The kid from, from Notre Dame. Yeah, he looked, yeah, good.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Yeah, we zero. We'll ship Lee from Clemson's going to be really good player. Yeah. The back from Arkansas, Rockett, which is last name right now, he's going to be a good player. But like maybe like one of them has to have the gumption like bowl game. Like during media availability, you just get up there and just crumple on stage. Listen, I walk up the stuff. It got to be more than that. Okay. And then you're out for I'm 18 month recovery. Yeah. You're. But gotta be more than that. And then you're out for 18 month recovery. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:26 You're not gonna have me until like maybe the following year. Okay, so soon. And then instead be good, like Kevin Nash style after the draft. I'm good. I'm good. Who's taking me? Yeah, who wants me? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I'm extension eligible. All right, so we're bigger in this out. I like it since we're talking dumb rules. Yeah. So we're gonna run this the Tuesday or Wednesday after the Labor Day, but this is as we're taping it cut day. What if you just didn't cut anyone? Would the NFL stop you? If you're like, now, we're just going to have 65 guys. We're just going to keep them all.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Yeah, I think that might be someone should call their blood. I actually don't know what because like you have to be roster and cast conflite every day. Yeah, the NFL says that, but I don't know what three precautions are. Yeah, we're gonna check that. Yeah, like every day there was someone who was like, with a fine tooth comb going through him being like, do you have, you know, during the off season,
Starting point is 01:42:14 90 or fewer players, are you under the salary? Yeah. And this offseason, like the chiefs have been dancing with like, there was a time where the chiefs a couple of years ago, and this is what happens when you have a lot of good players. They had $141 left in salary caps. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:42:29 141. They're like the drill suite with their budget. Yes, and so, and like somebody is in there, and it's like, you can't, like, you can't make a move until you do several other things. And they ended up, you know, the NFL salary cap was obviously so you can manipulate it so much that they ended up at 1.5, with like 30 million after that, uh, 141 bucks.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Um, yeah, the chiefs are the, the saints have been in cap hell for like, yeah, five years. You know, I feel like this is like one day I'll, like, those would be like the hell that I die on is that like, you can do what these, like what the saints do, what the eagles do. You just have to keep doing it in perpetuity. Yeah. It's getting off the train that's really tough. Like going back to the middle, which is what the bucks and the Rams
Starting point is 01:43:09 are both dealing with right now, right? They went all in, they want a Super Bowl each. Now the bucks want to get back to their approach, and it's really hard. Like besides Baker Mayfield, like they had a very quiet off season because they had no resources to work with and they wanted to get back to where they had been prior to that.
Starting point is 01:43:25 So, you can do it. You just have to be committed to it forever. Tell one of your guys, just don't cut anyone. I just would like to see what happened. I feel like you're like a college team and you just show up with 90 guys on the first week. Yeah. You have to duplicate some numbers.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Probably. Yeah, but we've seen some of that in the NFL now. I especially with all the new, like the new number, like Jersey number changes. I feel like we're seeing so many, like I'd always cracks me up when like some team like, unknowing like issues, I don't know, like the star wide receivers jersey remembered like a, like a undrafted rookie safety.
Starting point is 01:43:56 And like, see if I was like, dude, like I'm 17, like that's, like that's my territory. Yeah, you guys are like, guys gonna get cut. Yeah, it's, yeah, yeah. Don't do it, like we promise you it's not gonna be an issue in like two weeks. So, we're just out of wearing 50.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Ugly. Yeah, terrible. But he's like, I'm just gonna get another number if I make the team. I mean, sure. But it couldn't, was there nothing else available? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Was there nothing between one and 19 that they couldn't double issue? Which is stopping the owner from just like writing extra checks or sending VINMOS to guys. Was there the dark nivisky theory? Yeah, and he started to take in a bunch of like, Stop and owner from just like writing extra checks or sending Venmo's to guys Dark Navisky theory yeah, I started to take in a bunch of like you know, he took like the I think the last one of his last deals with the the math was like I don't know third of his market. Yeah, it's like hey Listen, we can't give you a big contract because of the salary cap right? Yeah, but I can Venmo you
Starting point is 01:44:46 $50,000 every three days you have a very rich owner now for the commander. It just could be it. Yeah, go cheat. I'm all about cheating. Like, you just work on handshakes first. Yeah, well, hey, that Joe Buck set him up. If I go like that field, what do you do? Oh, you're coming up with a speech. You're reaching in like, hey, let's go.
Starting point is 01:44:58 I will say this. Joe Buck's a piece of shit. He should be ashamed of himself. And I'm like, it was one of those moments where you're watching it and like definitely, you guys can imagine, I spent a lot of time on Twitter, but like that was one of those moments where I was like, I was not watching,
Starting point is 01:45:12 I was just watching the game, like not on social media. I was like, that happened, like that happened, right? I need to get a Twitter, I figured one of you guys would have this covered and it was like, you know, within moments you're like, oh, all right, the entire, like I didn't, that actually didn't happen here. So, to me, I think that that was a masterstroke by Josh Harris
Starting point is 01:45:30 to deflect any conversation about the fact that he was wearing a burgundy polo shirt. Yes. That did not have the name commanders on it. Because I think he might be changing the name. He didn't want to be on camera and have everybody talking about, oh, they're changing the name, that's why he's not showing it. So I'll just do this weird awkward handshake,
Starting point is 01:45:47 and I'll laugh at myself and people talk about that instead. I'm big time, I'm football team all the way through when they do change it. Football team's good. Football team, those are magical seasons. Yeah, it just grew on me very quickly. This makes sense. It was uncomfortable for a little while and then it like, it totally, we play football. Yeah, we don't need a cartoon.
Starting point is 01:46:02 It works telling us to cheer. Yeah, we're fucking so football. Yeah, yeah. Just sort of just felt like it all, like it all it all worked. Okay, so you said the Ravens that you're high on them. What are the other teams that you're high on that? NSC or AFC? I mean, field gates is stamping approval of like,
Starting point is 01:46:19 watch out for these. I think the C-Oxion, we're really good this year. Really? Yeah, they're offensive. I mean, Jackson's fifth in jake by getting hurt in the preseason wasn't, wasn't perfect. But I was talking to everybody about how there's like no offensive line depth. The C-Oxion one of those few teams that actually has like a formidable first five and like a little bit of depth to.
Starting point is 01:46:34 So they could be really good this year. And obviously, Gino is going to be the pendulum for them. But like I thought that what he did last year was, as I've thought about it more and more, I started to wonder like, was he just like a, was some, not all, but was some of the first decade of his career more circumstance than it was ability. Right, like if I were a backup quarterback,
Starting point is 01:46:54 I don't think I would have signed to be Eli Manning's backup. I know that he did snap the streak eventually, but it's like, like, Eli Manning's back, he never misses time. He never missed the game due to injury in his career, right? Like that to me feels like the wrong place to wind up. And then going to Seattle was same thing.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Up until I think it was like the second to last season was Seattle Russ never missed the game due to injury. You got that thumb injury off of Aaron Donald's helmet. You're like, yeah, this would like, that'd be the last place I don't wanna go, except for the fact that there's probably great job security. Because like he just kept getting re-signed to a one year deal in Seattle.
Starting point is 01:47:28 But I'm more in than out. Like accuracy is quantifiable in the sense of like completion percentage. But I think there's also like a different side to it and like, you know, his ball placement is like some of the very best in the NFL. He was absurd last year. It's very funny too that Russell Wilson leaves the Seahawks
Starting point is 01:47:45 and then their offensive line gets amazing. Cause for a long time, the knock against how Seattle was building the roster was like, they just get fat tight ends and they just put whoever end. Like Tom Cable would build an offensive line out of duct tape and string. Be like, here you go, Russ, you got there, make it work. They, and they sometimes did.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Russ also, I'm like not to like take the offensive of Laminoff, okay, I'm not to take the offense of Lamanov. I feel like with those quarterbacks, the only downside to the super athletic quarterbacks, I think is that we don't parse out sacks as an offensive line or a quarterback issue. It's always the offensive line. No one says the quarterback allowed 62 sacks last year
Starting point is 01:48:20 as the offensive line did. And it's for as great as the mobility can be. It also... He'd run into some blinding. And it's like, for as great as the mobility can be, it also like, he'd run into somebody. Yeah, you'd be like, all right. You know, like, might have just, like, thrown the ball away and been fine there. Like, second and tens, okay. Sometimes better than second and 21.
Starting point is 01:48:33 So, that was part of it. Yeah, but it was a much different approach for Seattle this past year. Yeah, Pete Prisco will always tell you, Russ just, like, runs out of clean pockets all the time. Yeah, it's a, he watches the film. Yeah, do you watch us is the film. Yeah. Do you like home? I probably not among Pete's level, but yeah, no one watches. No one's
Starting point is 01:48:51 on Pete's level. He's like clockwork orange in his eyes. Just tapes his eyes open. More of the, uh, with some of the stuff that I'm going to be doing now, more of the SPI, more in the college film than the pro film, because, uh, you know, obviously on Sundays, I have to work and then I'm watching all of the games live as we can. We have a great setup that allows us to watch all the games. Do you get to watch with Chris Burman? One of the coolest things over the past few years. So the past few years ESPN's had something I felt count down from New York City.
Starting point is 01:49:18 But there are few shows that still emanate at a Bristol. Our Spanish football now on Sunday mornings on ESPN 2 and then Prime Time, which has been reborn over the past few years has been on ESPN plus, but in Bristol so Boom and I got to sit next to another for the past like three years and it went from Probably 50 people in the room to in like a post-COVID world like maybe 12 or 16 of us and so I I'm like, like, boom, who everything you'd imagine it would be, and more. Like he's still walks in with like his briefcase,
Starting point is 01:49:53 he's got like several different newspapers, you know? Like he's like, yeah, I comb, you know, he's kind of, guys, I comb the globe, I comb the time. He's got like all, he's got everything, he's got, I just, I just did all this information, he's got all the lines ready, you know, he's got the entire Ivy League run down from Saturday. You know, like, I'd brown to boom.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Tough one for the boys yesterday, but, you know, we're bouncing back and he's the best. And that's I mean, you guys, I don't need to tell you guys how great it is. Does he let out a little? Everyone wants to watch the best is, you know, when something happens that like involves, like with Damon, what'd he be in the room? So if there's something jets related, like, you know, it just goes nuts, Buggers in the room, Buggermark Farrell, and like he just got his certain teams. Lions, like Lions has always been a big one for boom. He's always had a special place in his heart for the Lions, but they've been so good recently that
Starting point is 01:50:38 didn't Jared tell you that like the best pass of his career was the touchdown to a monorow. Say, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That moment boom, like couldn't contain himself. I just, I just, for like 30 straight seconds, right? Just like getting up and walking around and yeah,
Starting point is 01:50:53 he's the best. He owes us a Brock and Rool all night and purdy every day. Oh yeah. Just just mind of that. He mind of that. Him workshop, him workshopping a nickname for me, like was like in front of my at the time girlfriend and now wife
Starting point is 01:51:05 She was like That just happened. Yeah, yeah, I feel Field of dreams. Yeah, I'm sure he feels forever. Oh, yeah, all right that feel you could do field yates a hell Yeah, I would work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we get that happens often now like I've gotten to know TJ Mostly because the internet has asked us, like I thought we were related, I was going, I went down for something in New York recently and I got in the car from, they had a car service from ESPN and MBD, but it was pretty sweet and he was like, yeah, so how's your post-playing career tree?
Starting point is 01:51:42 I don't know what you're referring to. He's like, yeah, weren't you in late for a few years? And I was like, oh, yeah, you know, I thought he was, I was like, that's a pretty like good knowledge of like my background working for the chiefs. And he was like, no, like, didn't you play for, like, Houston for a couple, like a couple seasons? And I was like, oh, okay, you, I think you've like gravely mistaken me.
Starting point is 01:52:02 But I'm nearly texted TJ who's now coaching. He was coaching for the Falcons now. He's doing a great job. And we've become friendly because of that reason. So if there was for a while, there was like a cross section on the internet that we were late. And probably some people probably just keep that. Yeah, let's keep it common.
Starting point is 01:52:16 I'm good with it. Yeah. The more successful, he's got a couple of cousins now we're playing college football. Like, so the eights family, you have a couple of cousins. I have a couple of cousins. That's correct. Yes. So there's some
Starting point is 01:52:26 Yates out there that have some athletic ability and then there's D3 me. Yeah Position did you play? I was a safety. Yeah, where's your game like bad? I started one game I played two seasons. I played two seasons a football and four seasons lacrosse I think I had like maybe one start combined. Oh no wonder Bella check loved you. Yeah, well lacrosse Maybe one start combined. Oh, no wonder Bella check loved you. Yeah. Well, lacrosse. Yeah, lacrosse.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Yeah. I'm a football player, but really lacrosse. Yeah, lacrosse. I gotta get this guy. I say people are like, yes, like tell us about your lacrosse where I'm like, you know, I was a great teammate. Yeah. That's who got it.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Made a lot of good friends, you know. I spent the day out here in Chicago with one of my college teammates, you know, like I'm like, didn't matter how many, how many starts I did or didn't have. You know, it's more like, with this relationship exists if I hadn't played LaCrosse with you, right? This is the embodiment of the Bella Check meme from the combine. We just got the results.
Starting point is 01:53:13 He hears about you as a fucking guy. I can work with you. Hell yes. Safety and special teams players, I tell people. Because when you say special teams, no one can like really check the box for on you. Big time core special team. Yes. So yeah. I have one last question. I think box for you. Yeah. Big time core special. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:53:38 Every day. Jusips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, everything. They're the best. We have some great having you on. You got to, you, you, you know, or have to be a recurring guest. Uh-oh. More often. But we do have to ask a fan. It got a you you know or have to be a recurring guest. Uh-oh more often But we do have to ask a fan it's football question if you must you are a fan it's football guru Although it sounds like you're gonna be a draft guy now. Well, it's like it. We'll do some draft now in the future
Starting point is 01:53:54 Okay, exciting. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, yeah, um squeeze out top McShade no big deal He's our friend. He's the best. Yeah I love how you coming for each other? You said that. He said that. We can push them out. Todd Knight did a show together for several years. He is, I love Todd.
Starting point is 01:54:11 He, we're both Massachusetts guys. We go way back. He's Todd is the best. All right. So fantasy sleepers? You know, I feel like when we did this with Florio a couple of years ago, this was the one fantasy question you asked. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:23 So give me like 15 seconds, just like the reality of sleepers is that like, if you're listening to this show, you probably know most of the names that he's not. You don't think so? Nope. All right, I'll try a couple here. Say some names and we'll tell you to take a second. So like what I consider a sleeper is like, all right, hey, like 12th round and beyond in your fantasy draft, everything in the 12th round and beyond.
Starting point is 01:54:43 I was like, that's a sleeper. That's when I go to autograph. Right, so like Jordan Addison, who I know you guys know, he in the 12th round and beyond. I was like, that's a sleep routine. That's when I go to autographs. Right, so like Jordan Addison, who I know you guys know, he's the first on pick, right? He's going way too late in drafts, right? Very fast. Very fast.
Starting point is 01:54:54 From the Ravens as well. Matt Collins for the Falcons, who was good last year and has become this sort of hidden gem of a character for the NFL these days. Like he'll be more productive. Like the Falcons, White receiver core is too thin for him to not have a legitimate role there. Lies are more for the Browns. And then with writing backs, you have to find
Starting point is 01:55:14 the running back room that you're not totally positive that the starter is going to keep his job for the full season. So like, I think Alexander Madison is going to be a good player for the Vikings, but until he's shown it for like an extended period, there's like the non zero chance that tie Chandler, the drafts of a couple years ago at a UNC is going to be eventually become the starter. Roshan Johnson for the Bears, right? Like, Herbert look good in the preseason. Cleo Herbert, Deontay Foreman, like, has was a good player for the Panthers last year, but like, would you be totally surprised if Rchon, like, had a real role at some point? This is some good strategy.
Starting point is 01:55:49 Yeah, but like, you know, all the others, like, all the, like, starting running backs are known, right? Like, so you have to find the guys that just are one, not even injured, everyways an injury away from being useful, but like one sort of slump away from being a humble, yeah. And then, you know, Kenny Picket was once a court of actually per, but I think he's he's generated too much steam in the preseason. We're about Gibbs up in Detroit.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Yeah, he's going so high in fantasy draft now that like people are just all in. Yeah, it's be like going in like the first round first round. Jesus. I bet people who are listening right now, so I've be John go first overall because in fantasy, no, definitely. Fantasy, we like things that we know, we like things that are shiny objects.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Mahomes, best player in the world. He's going like 13th in fantasy. I do two quarterback league though. So that's where we're going. He deserves to go, right? But like, when there are like the variants between like Patrick Mahomes over the course of the season and like the 15th best quarterback
Starting point is 01:56:43 is not nearly as significant as the variance from whether it's Christian McCaffer, you're Austin at court at the top of the running back ranks and the 15th best running back. Like, at the end of the season, you're going to be like, wait, like, how was, you know, whatever? Like Pierre Thomas who's been retired for seven years, the 15th best running back in fantasy this season. So, quarterbacks tend to go earlier because of name value and Jumir Gibbs who is awesome and
Starting point is 01:57:06 Like in fantasy, I think one of the traps that people fall into sometimes is like just wanting to not be last Which is you know, it's it sucks to be last but like that trap for a baseball league So I've heard Listen You listen to that holy fuck feel I got a lot of sheets of choice. I'll walk in the morning torture. You live in the city.
Starting point is 01:57:29 That's their play. They're playing Dingers only draft in Guantanamo right now. I'm impressed. Yeah. But the like playing for like for like that's fine. Like for their faith is respectable and like no one's gonna like comment on you positively or negatively. But like Jameer Gibbs is the kind of player that like I don't think he's gonna just gonna be average.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Like I think he's either gonna be like holy crap. Why did the Lions use a 12th overall pick on a guy and then not use him that much? Always gonna be Alvin Camera 2.0. Right. Right. You're gonna be like holy crap. Like this guy like Camera as a rookie had 13 touchdowns, 81 catches like he was served. It took a little time to get there,
Starting point is 01:58:06 but from week six or seven on his rookie season was like the best running back in fantasy. And I feel like Jumir Gibbs, especially with no James and Williams the first six weeks, like after a monoraw saying Brown, that's it. A monoraw moved up in my rankings after he came on PMT by the way. He is an off-season.
Starting point is 01:58:23 He's intense. Is he the most alpha dude in the entire NFL. I mean, when I told him I was a Bears fan, I thought he was gonna jump the table. Yeah, he was crazy. I texted a couple of my buddies with lions after that, and I was like, I gotta be honest with you, I was like, I don't like when people react,
Starting point is 01:58:38 overreact too much to just stuff that he or she in the media, like I do with hard docs sometimes, but I'm like, I think I'm, like, I think I'm ready to run through a brick wall for a month. And he was like, he's got every team that passed on. Yeah. Who they drafted. 16 receivers.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Like he's the biggest dog in the entire locker room. Yeah. Dog is absolutely beast. Yeah. Everything he's like, he is the son of Mr. Universe. Like that is what like to a T. He is literally, but also like in bodies, what you'd imagine somebody would be if they pretended their dab was Mr. University. Yeah, would about for rookie quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Are you Stradboa or you in prices? I'm a Stradboa for fantasy. Okay. Because in fantasy football, you gotta remember how valuable running quarterbacks are. Yeah. They, like they set this unbelievable floor. Like Daniel Jones last year,
Starting point is 01:59:23 even in years prior to that, like had flash flashes where he was like legit in fantasy. He played much better last year, but a big part of the reason why, like he's going in drafts higher than like Dak Prescott and Kirk Cousins right now is that like he is a legit Russian quarterback. And they're, I feel like it's pretty normal for coaches
Starting point is 01:59:43 to spend time talking about how they're running, they're co-ordered back, they're actually gonna run less. Like the bills I feel like for three pretty normal for coaches to spend time talking about how they're running their co-ordered back, they're going to run less. Like the bills, I feel like for three years have been telling us like, yeah, we're going to protect Josh Moore and then he just keep running. The Giants have sort of alluded to like, yeah, like Daniel running for us is a huge weapon. Right. Like why like take that away from an offense that will be better with Darren Waller and some receiver investments, but they're not, investments, but they're certainly not as far as explosive and plays go.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Like top five are in the end of hell. So Daniel Jones, way more valuable in fantasy, even if you take a step back this year in real life. Okay. Yeah. Good answers. Good answers. Well, Phil, this has been awesome. It's great.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Yeah. Appreciate you moving your schedule for us. What's up, good extra night in Chicago. Yeah, I mean, we got, now we got the rapport. You're gonna come back on. We can do Zoom next time. Yeah. We'll back for the event next year.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Yeah, but you are, we'll definitely have you back on during the season. You give us some good answers. You pass, yes. Yeah. Pass the time. And I didn't know you were, yeah, I mean, you're watching all the college tape now too.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Say that's the only thing about traveling these days. It's like usually I don't like to get away from my family for too long. It's just like the logistics we're talking about this. I'm sure this is riveting for everybody. But like now you get the tape to grind. Like I was sitting there in the airport this morning. Oh, you're doing, you're doing the autopsy.
Starting point is 02:00:55 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're grinding the tape. I was sitting jerking up the tape. Okay. No. Hey, are you allowed to? In the middle of the Hartford airport. Yeah, you're allowed to be in a room with a woman
Starting point is 02:01:04 who's not your wife. I believe so. Yes, that's confirmed. You have like pens rules that are last year rules. Well, I mean Jake probably wants to fuck you right now. Jake and I are going to have, we're actually going to hang out and talk to you. I'm telling you, one day Jake will be my boss and I have little doubt about that. I want to, I mean, I don't know what the sport will call together, but we'll find a way to make something happen.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Yes. In a different life, I truly believe like I could have had like a very Jake approach to my like career. I totally got, I guess so proud watching him every time on the PLL or any of your guys' events. Like it's legitimately cool. Yeah, we are proud of Jake. We have to bust his ball, so he cheats and goes. At least too much of an alpha, so we have to bring him down.
Starting point is 02:01:39 He came off, he had a good day on the course today. Yeah, he's on the bottom. Don't believe it, don't believe it. I saw one shot. That's his vice. His one vice is just as fake hole in one. I saw one. That's his vice. His one vice is just as fake hole in one. I'm just jealous of how much him and Hank can play these days.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Oh, man. So nice. Look at Hank. Hank looks like a lobster right now. Hank, that he got some color. He beat up by the sun. I wasn't going to say he got some good. He got some, I'm jealous of it.
Starting point is 02:01:58 I'm envious. Did you offer Hank sunscreen today? I know you brought a lot out. You didn't? Oh, wow. Oh, man. Man brutal. All right. Well, field, thank you brought a lot out. You didn't? Oh wow. Oh man. Man brutal. All right, well field, thank you so much man.
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Starting point is 02:02:53 Great job to the whole team. It was a great shoot, but Jake dressed up as a woman because Brandon Walker lied about having COVID. And so Jake Adembrubli raises his hand, said, you know what, I'll step in, I'll do it. Many people are saying you look hot, Jake. I know you saw some of those comments. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:11 I saw several woods out there. Yeah, Mrs. Positions. Mrs. Positions. There we go. We'll get you a part of my cheese steak. You can find it at part of mycheastake.com, also on Uber Eats. Okay, end of the show. Max is back. Max, how was your vacation?
Starting point is 02:03:27 Vacation was really nice, necessary. Yeah. Yeah, was it 13 days? Do you think it was not 13 days? It was how many days count the days? Um, well, we were working Saturday. We were, we were working Thursday Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, your, your counting, your counting weekends weekends Don't count. There's five days. We do the weekend start max. Oh, you missed that. The big yeah, that was no, I I I back my guy Hank and sometimes you just got a little go. Do you think that Hank let you down with his Mount Rushmore performance? Because you guys did lose the final tallies out. You guys are going to spend 24 hours
Starting point is 02:04:03 in a box together in Hank's box and a sweet sweet box. Do you think he let you down? No, I mean, I was I was sending out picks to you didn't take a lot of stuff. It was bad. It was bad. Bad end of the summer. But I'm excited to be in the box. Yeah, I'm ready to go to the box.
Starting point is 02:04:22 I'm really good at all of these bets that we do on this show. Well, Max is running away with fingers only. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing that I'm actually good at. Wait, so Max, the one thing I'm going to win. Are you Matt? Are you Matt a Hank? He literally just gave up. He gave up. All right. When is a team lose as a team? Okay. but you you won by yourself and then I know what you're trying to do here. I'm not. You handed the ball to Hank and he's like, I don't want to play anymore. That's not true. That is absolutely true. The numbers say otherwise. Blame being the Wednesday, the Wednesday show you may you maybe didn't want to be there anymore, but that's fine. But you were still alive. Well, that's because they were going to, yeah, yeah, what we're going to rig it. You're a man of a free rig that we weren't even discussing.
Starting point is 02:05:10 It's fine. It is what it is. We, we, I'm a vacation supporter, enthusiast, whatever you want to call it. There's probably some science, you know, to the fact that we took these vacations the end of summer and the team chemistry was in there. Yeah. You know what, I think there might be something to the fact that we took these vacations at the end of summer and the team chemistry was there. Yeah. You know what? I think there might be something to the fact that when you don't have the other guy in the studio and Billy left, you don't have the background of a guy having your back immediately.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Like, yeah, good pick, you know? Although, although, yeah, Max, it's a good point. When Hank was out, you did really well. Yeah. And it does feel like the drone bet is picked was the start of the decline. Yeah. And you were very adamant that was a good pick. It was a good pick. It was a good pick. It lost you that track. It lost you. What do you would be if he won offensive rookie the year? I think no one. No one cares about your own bettis on the rank. He
Starting point is 02:05:58 was also first team all pro big hat old people. As old as a old old. First. He's old pro as a Rick. They only choose one of those guys. Yeah. That's true. So it's good to have you back. They'll max. I missed you. I said that out loud. I was like, I miss Max. I miss having him around. I missed you guys. And the Phillies and Cubs are on a collision course. I know that would be that would be something. Yeah. I don't think Jerry knows like Jerry thinks Max likes to to the fuck. That's okay. I was gonna say that. I don't think Jerry knows like Jerry thinks Max likes to to defuck. That's okay. I was gonna say that. I was gonna say that. Yeah. Sometimes go let Jerry go. We let him go. It was so fucking funny. Someone said it perfectly. They're like in the year 2023, uh,
Starting point is 02:06:37 Jerry O'Connell did a cranky anchors of Max and it was awesome. Yeah. I think mostly what it was about was just he was mad at you for making him visualize you you titty fucking yeah, but I said I don't I don't like you still had to talk about like you having a titty fucking session and hating it. So so just also grew talk me through that max you're on vacation and you pull up your you're not listening to the show and you pull up your Twitter on Friday morning and you're like what the fuck so Friday was our was our big trip. We went snorkeling. We went, I love to see you snorkeling.
Starting point is 02:07:08 It was nice. Oh shit. I get back. They have an extra lifeguard for you. I don't know what that means. How burning is your back swimmer? Is your back super burned? No, I'm Italian skin, you know.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Yeah, I get, you get all of, yeah, I get a little olive, although I was worried whatever But yeah, I get back to look at my phone and I just have 10 texts from like my friends being like oh my god The titty fucking segment the titty foot. I was like what could pass how could there possibly be this big of a topic in the fantasy football Preview with Jerry like that doesn't that makes no sense to me Well, Jerry gave us a great preview the fantasy football preview with Jerry like that doesn't that makes no sense to me. Well, Jerry gave us a great preview for fantasy football. He said Justin Fields and Darren Waller, no matter what, we got neither one of those guys. Yeah. So we just went sideways. We got all bangles. We got all bangles. So that's good. We know we stacked bangles and I think jaguars. Yeah. So I mean, he's the best.
Starting point is 02:08:02 We love having Jerry on, but yeah, I did enjoy seeing you tweet that max being like I It's got a suck to me max on vacation right now. It's okay. It's okay All right anything else. Oh you Jake you want not want to bring up your wild From over the weekend Yannis and his brothers. Oh, yeah, it's not with team all three of them I love that Yannis was like the box has to do the right thing for me to stay And really he meant just sign all my siblings the nuggets should do that. Yeah, the yoghurt Yeah, my fun stat is that we have one more part of my take until NFL footballs back. Yes
Starting point is 02:08:36 That's that's a fucking awesome stat. We made a voice not yet. Yeah, we could not yet Jimmy Buffett Yep, you never know Yeah, also Jake, sorry. I know that you had your Yankees big board for free agency. Oh, yeah. And Julio Rias was your number one target. No, so sorry. About this about I know you wanted him to use it to make go her mom and Julio Rias. You great on the staff. You were saying that on Friday. But you don't have to sit on the show. Look at Jake, go along with bits. Way to go, Jake. Turn to the corner.
Starting point is 02:09:11 All right, so the lottery ball machine, I don't even know when we're getting it, but I know we're getting the old one shipped to us. So we will have that back. Take Clemson score 30 more points. Yeah. They lost 28, seven. I mean, that's points. Yeah. They lost 28 seven. I mean, that's bad.
Starting point is 02:09:27 It's bad. I feel like a coward for not taking Duke money line. I, I, I hit on that a little rescue bail me out on Monday night, but you should go on money line. Yeah, I know. I mean, look at Duke football. Duke football back. Some are saying it's a football school now.
Starting point is 02:09:41 Yeah. That's, I think it always was coach case going to have to come back and save it. All right. Numbers. Means you I think it always was. Coach K is gonna have to come back and save it. All right, numbers. Means you ever gotten this? Nope. 18. Three. One.
Starting point is 02:09:50 69. 77. 20. 30. Oh. Also, last week of route to say that it was the third birthday of a lottery machine. Oh, thank you, Jake.
Starting point is 02:10:01 Very cool. How could you do that? How could you do that? You never know. I did it last year. Yeah, we're here. All right. See everyone tomorrow.
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