Pardon My Take - NFL Week 10, Fastest 2 Minutes, Are The Jaguars Frauds? Browns Huge Win, Niners Are Back And More

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

NFL Week 10 and we start with fastest 2 minutes (00:00:00-00:09:49) we then talk about every game from Sunday Colts 10, Patriots 6 (00:09:49-00:25:12) Texans 30, Bengals 27 (00:25:12-00:33:06) Browns 33, Ravens 31 (00:33:06-00:38:30) Niners 34, Jaguars 3 (00:38:30-00:49:52) Vikings 27, Saints 19 (00:49:52-00:58:18) Steelers 23, Packers 19 (00:58:18-01:06:46) Bucs 20, Titans 6 (01:06:46-01:11:48) Jets 12, Raiders 16 (01:11:48-01:17:21) Lions 41, Chargers 38 (01:17:21-01:30:40) Cardinals 25, Falcons 23 (01:30:40-01:34:13) Cowboys 49, Giants 17 (01:34:13-01:39:42) Seahawks 29, Commanders 26 (01:39:42-01:51:53) We finish with who's back of the week. (01:51:53-02:10:42).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon music. On today's part of my take, we've got football week 10 in the NFL. Some incredible games, incredible, witching hour. Some teams being officially back. It was a great Sunday. It was great great Sunday.

It was a great Sunday, except for the first game, the international game, everything else rocked, and we're going to get to all the games, talk about everything that happened on Sunday. We're going to do fastest two minutes. We got a little hoos back. It's a Monday with part in my take and football, nothing better. Well, there's one thing better.

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Oh! Texans? Sticking in the AFC North, we had to Baltimore where Kyle Honeybick Hamilton caught a sweet spiral from Deshaun Watson sticky hands to start to scoring. It was the Ravens There is more than one guy that could get a game winner as the Browns Stunder Ravens 33 31 we had West to Pittsburgh where the Steelers and Packers met Jalen Warren peace was booking it to the tune of 101 yards in a score and

Najee Scott Harris avoided any awkward encounters by handshaking tacklers all day with a last-grat gasp the Packers fell short as Keanu Neal for the anthem said I'm calling game with a big pick and like a robbery scene on a nest doorbell camera the Steelers walked all over D door mat with floor and easily took the pack. Steelers 23, Packers 19! What? What? Down to Jacksonville, where just like Mark Twade, the reports of the 49ers death have been greatly exaggerated as D-Mode Samuel Clemens painted the Jaguar's defense white. Trevor,r rents had his ball sailing all over the

course adding to some wildly inaccurate drives. Christian McCaffrey becomes the second player in NFL history to go on a one game scoreless streak after scoring in his previous 17 games. The 49ers 34, the attention about Jaguars free. We head to Germany where we have our special beat reporter Henry Lockwood on the case. Hank! Over to Deutschland! Chad Ryland or my sea started off the scoring early with an early field goal. Before Jonathan Taylor Swift said karma is a goal line touchdown on 4th and 1, giving the

cult a resounding 7-3 lead. On his first attempt, Matthew Marvin Gaye and Shardinay's kick got told to talk to the talk to the talk to the hand. But unfortunately, the Patriots offense didn't capitalize or do anything remotely exciting all day. In the fourth quarter, Quack Jones threw an absolute duck of an interception at the one yard line, landing him on the bench, and Bayley frappie in the game at 2b. Unfortunately, he couldn't shake the defense with his fake spike and threw an interception to seal the game. Coast goal marching, 10 to 6. Down to Dallas, where Tommy DeVito took the stage and said,

Hey, I'm trying to throw an interception here. What were you playing defense? As the giants were subject to anti-atalian discrimination, aka, a Rico case, as famous Italian American Mike Toreco doubted, ran all over the giant's defense. The cowboys looked like they were feasting on Easter dinner, as they broke out the old Cooke's lambs playbook, as CD and brand had both scored. Some were asking if Brian Dable is about to be swimming with the seven fishes come Christmas time. Oh Oh my good friend Brian Dable. Oh my His ass trouble get his ass fired. He's like Jeff Nidoo. You got to take down that video

God boys 49 Tikes Submitty out west to LA where Jameer Cribbs took a tour of the Chargers home and showed everyone where the magic happens in the end zone twice. A big 12 game broke out between these two teams as the Lions, Born and Raised in South Detroit said, we don't stop the Keen and as Alan made two journeys to the end zone. John C. Riley Patterson got his dick wet with a game winner and that's what I call a dui cox. But a chch. Lions 41, Charger 38.

Out in Washington where Washington was playing Washington. Huh? Don't shit your fucking head Max. There was an unsolvable mystery for the commander's defense, who the hell is Zack Shorbanay Ramsey. It was a rock show as Stephen Tyler Lockett and Geno Aerosmith said, can you Kenneth Walker this way? As a Seahawks found their offensive rhythm in the second half. The commander's almost still at late, when welcome to the amy Ben Veneto, Adiyami, Brown, scored to tie the game,

But Washington got smacked on the face, like they were hosting the Oscars, As Jason Myers kicked the game winner. Seahawks 29, the commander's 26. Standing on a corner, James Winston down in Nola, Such a fine side to see. It, James Winston down in Nola, such a fine sight to see. It's James Winston! He got that doggy in, two touchdowns and two INTs. Come on, dog!

You're gonna make us stop! At the very least, you deserve a starting job! Saints don't go marching, Vikings 27, Saints 19. And that is the fastest two minutes, week 10. Brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a new family with unstoppable grit and they're the official partners of the part of my take family. And that is the Chevy Silverado Z R2 family, the first

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Raiders, it's disgusting. It's football. It's disgusting. It is, we have to say when things are disgusting. It is gross. We're still watching it, but it is disgusting. But I almost scored two touchdowns actually. Zach Wilson had a touchdown run that was called back because he stepped out of bounds on the two. He did a, he did a, a Zach press cut. Yep. And went out of bounds early and then

a breeze hall score of touchdown, which was taken back by a flag on the one yard line. Yep. So the end zone has been breached twice, but neither one of which counted. They neither counted. And I bring up that we're watching it right now to set the stage, because memes will maybe chime in. He basically the entire night has been screaming, yes. No, not again,

with every good Jets play that then comes back with a penalty, but I wanted to start by mentioning this game because we're gonna get into every game from week 10. And I don't think even if this game ends nine six, it will be as bad as the first game we're going to talk about Colts 10 Patriots six. Oh, without a doubt. It was thankfully the international experiences over I believe for this year.

We're done. No more international games. I believe. Well, we saw it's our game in Mexico. We saw it too really bad Which game do you think was worse in terms of exporting American football as a product the Colts Patriots game or you gone to losing zero to 14 against Kenya. Yeah. Yeah, we had a couple of ringers there on the You got a team. I guess they could be ringers. Yeah the ringers. Uh

Hank. Yes, you're not making eye contact. Hey Yeah, the ringers, Hank, you're not making eye contact. Hey, um, Colts, I'm the fuck up, Hank. All right, that's a good way to start. Colts, 10 feet, no, like Hank's already off to a bad start because he came in firing. What? You need to stop deflecting, because you always deflect when it comes to your pages.

I don't. This is even for a team that is very much tanking and bad. This felt like a new low. Yeah, no, it was disgusting. The, it wasn't even the, well, it was before the interception of the fourth quarter, which maybe was one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen thrown in my life.

I think it was the worst. Max Jones had a guy in the end zone and he under threw him by about 12 yards. And he went on his back heel when he didn't even need need to and when I say he under threw him by 12 yards I believe he attempted the past from like the 10 yard line. Yeah, the the his I think it was Gaseki He was trying to hit was like falling down in the end zone and the ball Like got intercepted at the five. Yeah, it was pretty bad prior to that I forget what the exact situation was,

but it was a third down, maybe like a third and two or something, they didn't convert. It was another incompletion. And they showed the incompletion, immediately cut to Robert Kraft, who just did straight up just went, ducked his head and just looked down like he was depressed. Like he just, it went in completion

and then his Robert Kraft being like, fuck this. Yes. It was a sigh. It was, it was as bad as it gets. You had, you also had Bill O'Brien, like bitching out Mac Jones, like he was like a teenager who had done something very, very bad. You had Mac Jones with his cry face. They kept on showing him after he he thrown that interception, looking like he was in the most pain he's ever been in except for that time that he twisted his

ankle and looked like he got shot. And the D.Y. Yeah, and the D.Y. Mac Jones is horrifically, horrifically bad at quarterbacking in the NFL. Not the guy. That's official. Hank, what have you done it? We got a guy.

What if he had better coaching? That interception might have been on the coaching. What if they had better offensive line. No, no, no. There was also a moment that you didn't mention, Hank, after the game where Bella checked just buried his face into his hands. Like he was embarrassed to be there. Yeah. He was, I don't know if he is embarrassed of his team, or if he is embarrassed of himself,

if he is just closing his eyes and picturing himself and land over Maryland. I don't know what he was doing, but he looked deeply upside after that loss. He was like, I don't know what he was doing, but he looked deeply upset after that loss. And we have never seen from Bill. Because it should have been a win. It was an ugly game. It was discussing to watch. I woke

up early and the whole time I was thinking like, I would love to just go back to sleep. Like I knew I knew I could go to sleep and wake up and and not much would have changed. It was yeah, but I I I stayed up. I watched the whole thing. It was so boring. Yeah. Is he clearly it looked not bad. Yeah. He was actually running the ball well. He were a Mondra as well. Uh, and the cults by the way the cult Shane Stiking is a good coach and in five and five. Gardening Mitchell made some made some good throws like it. It was the drive immediately after the the craft Ducking his head and and just depression Gardening Metsu like scrambled had a good third down conversion like he looked

It was like oh I wish we had that kind on our team and he's a backup here Here's here's how bad this game was the highlight of the game was when they showed the time lapse of the roof collapsing into This the scoreboard which is very cool. It was sick. Very, very cool. But that was the highlight of the entire football experience in Germany today. But even with all that being said, it was fourth quarter.

The Patriots had a wide open look for a touchdown to go up in the fourth quarter, which is all you can ask for as a coach. That's probably why it was ducking his head, because it's like they should have won the game. Yeah. Despite all that. I'm going to push back on you big yet. That was a great time lapse montage that we saw

for sure. I don't want to take anything away from the roof. But as somebody that enjoys Patriots failures, given how much they've won. And I think Patriots fans are even like, yeah, you know what, like we've had, we had a really nice run. So I don't feel bad saying this about it. But watching the, Mac Jones interception I I laughed. So yeah, his face after and then when Bailey's happy to the fake spike interception, I laughed very hard again. He was in his bag. That's his bag.

He was in his bag because it's like that's the greatest playing sports. Yeah, like you have to go for that. I will never you know, it didn't work out well. Damn marina. You got to go for it. That's that's like when you see the fake spike like oh my god. You gotta go for it. That's like, when you see the face back, oh my God. They got it frozen.

Like, it's gotta be wide open. And then it was like three guys. Four colds there. It was just waiting for all to come to them. It was very, very funny. And I think that Gardner Menshu, this was like a peak Gardner Menshu game where he was jumping around the pocket,

making like one footed throws, jumping it through the air, and just doing a crazy shit that happened to work out. And when that happens with Gardner, he's one of the most fun quarterbacks to watch when it's working for him. Granted, it only worked like, it's not like the Colts lit it up on offense or anything, but there were a couple of key drives where he played well.

I feel optimistic about the Colts as a whole because it's like they've got a decent roster when Anthony Richardson gets back and he got he appears to be a pretty good head coach. So yeah, it's a good sign for the Colts that you didn't lose this game. If you're a Patriots fan, is this is this rock bottom? Has to be. Yeah, it is. I mean, I don't know that you can really like you know how to void rock bottom.

Like there's like some we're being held up. I know you everyone's like a blinking light that tells you watch out if you hit This it's gonna be rock bottom, but it's like we're always gonna be kind like we're always gonna be held up by the the six super balls Like you can't really yeah, like with this rock bottom in the post super air for sure Well, I could get lower. I can't I don don't know. No, you could keep playing Mac Jones. Is there a worse, like if you're Mac Jones, there's no situation worse than getting benched with zero timeouts, like they could have just let him do the last drive.

They easily could have, the interception was that bad. You got benched, the Patriots had a chance to, you know, drive down the field with no timeouts and win. They put in Bailey's app, he cold, no warm ups, no reps, like put them in basically being like, fuck you, Mac Jones. And then you have to take the longest plane ride, like you're probably going to take. Yeah, it doesn't get worse. You have to, you have to overdose on the ambient on the way back. Yeah. The, um, I have a couple spins. I'm just before you though. Hank,

okay, you ready for these? Sure. Okay. One is I'm pretty sure the page should have it by next week. That's great. Now, you are not used to this feeling, but when you have, when you root for a very bad team, the by week is the greatest reprieve you can possibly have because you can sit and watch football and not be tortured for a Sunday. Even the Bears playing on Thursday was reprieved for me

where I was like, I woke up and I was like, I don't have to watch the Bears today. This is nice, this is awesome. Spin zone number two where I was like, I woke up and I was like, I don't have to watch the mirror today. This is nice. This is awesome. Uh, spin zone number two. I was thinking about this after the Mac Jones interception, which was maybe the funniest. We should actually remind, um, remind us Max or memes Jake is on a flight on the way back. So he's not here right now.

Uh, for take of the year, he should be worse interception of the year. Um, just give it. It was now. It was Carson wins adjacentcin wins adjacent yeah it was so so bad but here's the spin zone it's hard to follow tom brady it's not hard to follow mac jones so you've had a nice buffer he's the guy after tom brady then the next guy can be like well

i'm following mac jones i'm not following tom brady a very low bar. That's actually pretty nice for the next guy. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. If you're thinking about who the next coach of your team is going to be, who would you want? That depresses me. I did. I actually had a similar thought to the Mac Jones.

It's like, no one, it's impossible to fall Tom Brady. Like that. That went through my mind. And in the, you know, annals of history, like, it's going to be up. I nailed that. That's going to get Mac Jones will be forgotten about. and in the, you know, annals of history like you know that's gonna get Mac Jones will be forgotten about but the bell check

bell check leaving is gonna depress me like especially when he goes to the commanders it's just it will truly be the end of, you know, in obviously I'm 30 so my child is long gone but it will be the end of all my Boston sports you know heroes or teas, chara, bourgaron, you mentioned brood,

having a lot of Brady Edelman, like they're all gone, but they're but they're they were in terms of like chara was there my whole child that was just always on the Bruins like he was always a Bruins captain or T is the same Brady the same Paul Pierce the same Belichack being gone will be the end of truly the last end of an era and I just don't want it to happen Yeah, this would this would really Complete like the big three for DC sports stealing washed up former Boston athletes and coaches because we got Chara for like a season We rented him we got Paul Pierce at the end of his career and Bella check. Is there a chance it happens tomorrow? According to these fan fiction rumors, Boston Globe.

It is the by week. What are they saying the globe? You reported you told me. Oh, last week, is there anything new? I don't know. Okay, so terrarium, yes, there's a chance. I actually, I watched the last five minutes of the game because I was like, I yes, there's a chance. I actually, I didn't, I watched the last like five minutes of the game because I was like, I made the calculation in my head.

I'm gonna follow this on gamecast, see how it goes, spend some time with my kids, and I, I've never been happier that I made that decision. Because that was one of those games if I have on. It's a tough explanation for why that game is on at 830 in the morning. Yeah, I just kept a lot of betting, I I'll add by the Patriots like three times. I was so. Oh, no. So they almost wanted.

Uh, yeah, one in all time ricochet shot. I'm not really ricochet shot, but memes put up a picture of Adam Gase. It says Bill Belichek without all of Fame, QB. Now, um, you might remember Adam Gase from coaching the Jets really poorly, but memes chose to use a version of him where he's the dolphins coach Where he actually wasn't that bad on the playoffs. He went to the playoffs. Yeah, I think he was seven and nine as worst season there He meme said that was the first picture he could find Yeah, I believe it a man who lives on the internet couldn't find pass

Picture number one when he searched Adam Gase But yeah, I mean Hank congrats on all your success in the past. You've had like an incredible run as a sports town. Also, if you search right now, Adam Gase images, yeah, I mean, you have like, there's no question that Boston has been titled down for the last 20 years. And if the Celtics stay healthy, it's gonna happen again. Uh, guarantee?

Yeah. Oh, okay if if they're starting lineup is the you know in the playoffs They're starting lineup. That's a guarantee for Zingas Drew holiday I think they dropped a 50 burger. Okay. There's I'd also like to reverse my stance on Tyree's maxi Max not you're not trying to make fetch happen Ty Tyree's Maxi is very, very good. Yeah. Memes is making a sac sound right now. I just looked up Adam Gase on the internet and he clicked images.

And the first six images are all Jets, Adam Gase. So means the liar. Nice try. What about mobile? Mobile? We didn't check mobile. Okay, let me find, let me look mobile. Adam Gase, mobile. Either way, the cults deserve a lot of credit chains liking like if you went in this season and you said the cults

Already not a great roster if you're gonna lose anything rich and you're gonna be five and five Yeah, heading into your biweek. That's incredible Yeah, and also this was the first time in in four years Gorderman should won back-to-back games. Yeah, so credit to Gorderman. It's hot, make it's a place. You know what, watching him today, he made me wanna buy an El Camino again. Yeah, I think I might,

if the cold seven winning record, I will buy an El Camino. You might have to do it. I just checked mobile and yes, again, it was all jets. So, memes the liar. Nope, it was the dolphins. I got out of the shower. Press N. hopped in my car. You were new to when you wait. Were you naked when you sent that tweet? Well, the game ended once I got out of the shower. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess it was. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, I also was gonna go take a walk. I was like, fuck this game. I'm gonna take a walk. It's over. And then I like put on clothes and saw the Bailey's happy thing was like, I gotta, I gotta watch this out. You gotta watch the Bailey's happy. Do like, I got to watch this out. You know, watch the Bailey's happy. Do a fake spike. Sorry, I didn't even get any fresh. Mac Jones getting yelled at. That was the, there was so much anger behind Bill Brian's like face. His voice.

I couldn't hear his voice, but you could feel it. Yeah. Like the frustration with Mac Jones as a human being. Like I think he hates him as a human being. I think it's that well. There's a lot of, there's a lot of, even the bell check, although those are videos from the summer or whatever,

but it just feels like the coaching staff is on some like fuck it, we're on the way out. Who cares? Yeah. Like let him hear it. Yeah, listen to me. I'm not gonna, we're not coaching him for the season. Like I just hate you.

We're not building anything. No, yeah, it's, it's, none of this is gonna be here next year. So, hey, you kind of dodged the question, though. And I understand, like, yeah, losing your heroes that are no longer around, that's tough. I feel for you on that one. But the question was, have you thought about

who you'd want next as a head coach? No. You haven't given in any thoughts? Zero. Vrable. John Fox. With love, Vrable. Yeah.

I mean, they brought them back. they brought them back to Fox our trust No, okay, Sean got about it Sean McVeigh Jules would be cool tools. Okay, hey coach Why not why not Jeff Saturday rainy moss Yeah, Steve Bellichek Steve Bellichicek, label. Adip voluntary. Vince Will Fork. Yeah, winners. A lot of names, a lot of names.

Patriot way. OK, next game. Now we're into some good games. There were some great games today. We're starting to get like, some of these games are going to have big time playoff implications when we get to it later in the season. But Texans 30

Bengals 27, CJ Stroud, unbelievable. Now he had a terrible pick at the end of the game that let the Bengals get back in the game. But the way he was throwing the ball day, the way he drove him down the field for the the game winning field goal. If the playoffs started today, the Houston Texans would be the seventh seed. Yeah. And the Bengals and Bills would be outside looking at it. And I think we can say now there's enough evidence. The Texans are just good. Yeah.

Just good. And CJ Stroud is elite. He's a great quarterback. He's the lead-leagor in yards per game and total yards. True. And also people forget his name CJ. We don't know what the J stands for. It's Corridged Bernard Stroud the fourth. There's the J stands for. It's Coleridge Bernard

Stroud the fourth. There's no J. Oh, it's like Homer J Simpson. Yeah, he's no J Simpson. Yeah, so he's Coleridge Bernard Stroud the fourth. He the way he looks in the pocket, he's so comfortable and that like we were talking about it with the commanders when when you the feeling of watching a quarterback throw it downfield and be like good things are about to happen. That's every time CJ Shroud throws it downfield. You're like, he's got a plan. He's going to hit someone.

It's going to be a big gain. Like, that's the best feeling in the world. He just plays with such confidence. It's crazy for a rookie be playing like that. And the ball looks so good coming out of it. Ball looks good. I want to get I want to get the pitch tracker on there. See what the RPMs are because he feels like he has the fastest spiral. And he has like he's been doing where he's not even

stepping and throwing. Yeah. Where he's just throwing flat footed and and just throwing like absolute dimes down the field. So it was it was the perfect like ending for the Texas because you had C.J. Straub make a mistake that he should have made in That last interception when he's trying to throw it to tank Dell It'd be like oh no here comes rookie bangles Joe Burrow they win these games And then he was able to take him down the field and for the bangles This is a pretty big loss because that this is why you don't start slow You can't really don't really have any room for air.

Right. The Bengals started slow last year, then they won what like 12 games in a row. So it erased it, losing a game to the Texans at home when you were basically a Tyler Boyd drop away from winning this game has to hurt a lot. And Joe Burrow, like the first drive, it was awesome. And then for the middle quarters, this is what's happened with the the bangles the two things that make me nervous about the bangles Because I still obviously think they're a very good team their defense got gashed today and their defense has been Not as elite as it has been in the in You know the the soup bowl runner when they went to the soup bowl their secondary has some problems and then their offense goes into like Weird tank mode for stretches,

where it's like they'll either get a awesome drive where everything looks perfect or it will be a flurry of three and outs in a row. And you're like, what's going on here? Yeah. And they have they have zero margin for error. They have they're going to the Ravens Steelers at the Jaguars, Colts, Vikings at the Steelers at the Chiefs and the Browns. So that's probably I don't know what the the Sabre metrics on that are. I imagine that's probably the most difficult schedule from here to the end of the season that the bangles have to go through. How easy. So they gave themselves like no room for air. They needed this one. So they needed this one big time. But they, I think they'll still figured out because they do have the talent and their defense

usually is good enough to keep them in any game. And I don't think there's anything wrong with Joe. I don't think there's anything like super wrong with the offense. They're just too streaky right now. But they're well, I think they put themselves in bad shape. It's their defense can't just so they can't solely win games with their defense. Like today, CJ Stroud had they had 544 total yards on the Bengals defense. Like they gash the Bengals defense. And credit to Domingo Ryan's Domingo Ryan's now has the highest winning percentage

and the fourth most wins all time in Texans history. Whoa. With five. That's crazy. And I said again, the fourth most wins all time in Texans history with five wins. That's huge. And Tom Capers is only 13 away, even though he coached there for like years. Also Stroud boys shirts are live. Yes. And we should make it another shirt too for CJ Stroud because now that he has proven that he is the real deal. People are saying maybe MVP race.

His quote, I'm not a test taker. I play football is an all time quote because that's one of those quotes that if you aren't good, that will backfire in your face so poorly. Like it will just be like everyone will treat it at you. I'm not testing it, I play football. Well, you don't play football well. Now that quote looks awesome because it's kind of

the cardel joke. I was gonna say it's an upgraded version that this cardel was like JV version of. I'm not here to play school. I didn't come here to play school. Yeah. Also I was doing some research on Bobby Slowak because I'm starting here to play school. I'm not here to play school. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I was doing some research on Bobby Slowick because I'm starting to look into coaches for next year. Okay. Next season, potentially on the commanders. Slowick is going to get a bunch of interviews. I think this off season because he's a great offensive coordinator.

And I just want him on the commander so that they can't use him as AMO to be like, here's another former coach that's now really good somewhere. He went to Michigan tech, which I didn't realize was a school. Yes. Hockey school hockey school up like as far north and Michigan as you can get. I, he's a good offensive coordinator. He's become a lot better because CJ Stroud was like, let me throw the ball. He's, because he started this season with a lot of, we're, every single drive we're running on first down, no matter what. And now and now CJ Stroud so I I'd like to see a little more Out of him just because it feel like CJ Stroud almost forced his hand being like go dude. I'm really good Let me throw the ball, but the bar is so low. So many weapons the bar is so low that if you just have an offensive coordinator

That has the presence of mine to be like I've got a really good young quarterback Let's work with his strengths and let's change our offense I've got a really good young quarterback. Let's work with his strengths and let's change our offense. My to suit what's going on with my point is it was she just shot actually kind of said it to him. He said it in the press conference. Like dude, let me throw but a lot of guys wouldn't listen. Yeah.

And at least he listened. Uh, yeah, they have so many. I mean, no brown has been incredible. No browns got back to back. Uh, 150 plus yard games. Take the L's awesome. I respect running the ball. I respect no brown because he's got so much confidence in himself.

Yeah. He was a college guy that didn't really play well in college. And after two seasons, he was like, you know what, fuck it. I'm just going to go to the draft. He's on the Cowboys, right? Yeah, he was, I think, a seventh round pick. And he was projected to be like a seventh round pick. He was like, fuck this.

I don't want to stay at school anymore. I want to go to the NFL. I think Ezekiel Elliott campaigned for the Cowboys to draft him. Should have should have kept him. Yeah, I think I think the Texas might go to the playoffs. Oh, Zach Wilson just fumbled. What happened there memes?

I hope we get no touchdowns. Yeah, we might have no touchdowns. Nine, nine. I think the Texas might go to the playoffs. I think they might too. We looked at the schedule. The schedule is four weeks ago. I counted it.

Ten wins is very doable. Because they have games against the Cardinals, Broncos, Titans, twice, Colts, Jets. Those are winnable games. They already beat the Jags. They can beat the Jags again. How did they lose the Panthers? I don't know. That's that one was a weird mystery. They can beat the Jags again. How do they lose the Panthers? I don't know. That's that one was.

That's weird. That's weird. Yeah. That one is a mystery. I think Frank is undefeated after the buy off. Oh, he doesn't lose off a buy. Yeah. All right. Makes sense. Yeah. That is. That makes perfect sense. Some Frank Reich after a buy light.

Sometimes football is that easy. Death taxes Frank Reich after a buy week. Why? Why were you memes? Zach Wilson just dropped back on his own ten yard line and through the ball 50 yards and memes put his hands up like it was gonna be a completion. It's the opposite of what we're saying with CJ Stroud. When Zach Wilson throws the ball down field,

only bad things can happen. Oh, maybe an interception that would've been good. Yeah, a little arm punt for you. Ivy. It looked good. That is the best moment here. You can reach though as a fan. When your quarterback changes, when he crosses over

into being like, oh shit, he's passing the ball, that sucks, what's gonna happen? Was it gonna happen? Yeah, into yes, he's passing the ball this rocks. Yeah, this is gonna be a completion. Who's open, streaking down the field right now. It's suckin' to hit in perfect stride. Yeah.

All right, next up, other big game from Sunday. The Browns, 33, the Ravens 31. This was a crazy, crazy game because if you, if you watched the first half, you thought the Ravens were going to win by a billion. You thought it was going to be a Seahawks game, a Lions game that the Ravens have just been killing opponents at home. The game started like 10 seconds in, pick six from DeShon Watson, and they couldn't have looked worse. And then the second half started, and I think I might have to say it, DeShon Watson was officially arrived as a Cleveland Brown, because he was to start the game. He was six for 20 for 79 yards. In the second half, he was 14 for 14 for 134 yards in a touchdown,

and drove him down the field for the game winning field goal. Like this, as much as the Ravens in the second half he was 14 for 14 for 134 yards in a touchdown and drove him down the field for the game winning field goal. Like this as much as the Ravens blew this game, the Brown just hung in there and didn't quit. And that was maybe the biggest Browns win. They've had maybe since they beat the Steelers and the playoffs. A long ass time. Long ass time. Very long time for them. Yeah. To Sean, I think he started one for nine.

He was so bad in interception with the pick six. Yeah, with the pick six, it was about as bad as you could get. And Keaton Mitchell had three carries, 34 yards, 11 yards per carry. But that's okay, because Gus Edwards had a big day. He had 11 carries for 24 yards and Harbodge. Maybe Harbodge just doesn't want another good player to get injured. So that's why they stopped running him in the second half. Brown's defense is good. I think you got. Yeah, but I mean, he could get more than one carry in the half. They played with the lead for, I think, all but 40 seconds of the game. Yeah. Like this is, it's crazy that Harbotton go back to him.

We also should have the conversation is, is Justin Tucker washed. Oh, he got a kick blocked. It was like a 50 plus yarder. He's, he's now one for five from 50 plus yards. Uh oh, uh oh happens. Put the record. Every team should watch us and Tucker. Uh oh, he's probably not washed. I also, there was one play like again, if you watch this game, you know, the

Browns were basically dead in the water. Like it felt like they had no chance. They didn't show up to play and they were down 14 points a second half. That David and Jokey, no Jokey run after the catch where he just started just like bullying Ravens defenders. Yeah. That was the turning point. They were like, yeah, we can play with these guys. Did you see his Instagram post? No. In Jokey, he put up a post after the game. The last slide of it was Stavvy. Oh. Stavvy crying about it. Crying about being a Ravens.

No, that's not Stavvy, that's what's... Oh, Ronnie, it was Ronnie from Dundalk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so funny. But I was crazy though, the Browns like that, these are games that Browns do not win. And they came and they won it because these are the games that Browns sleepwalk, get killed, everyone says, what's wrong with the Browns

Oh, there are the Browns and then they win this game and not only do they win it But just Shawn Watson looks right for the first time in like three years in that second half The Brown like if you're Browns fan this has to be one of the best wins you've ever had Yeah, you're very happy about it and you're right This is the first time that they've won a game that they've been down 14 or more points in since 2018. They just, they just didn't like, they didn't point, they just kept on playing defense. The, the pick six, like sometimes you got to get those fluke bounces where it just dropped right into Greg Newsom's hand.

That was a crazy, crazy, crazy pick six. Crazy picks. It was off the screen until the ball landed and all this time he's got the ball in his hands. And it was, it was great because it was like, it was basically the screen until the ball landed and all this and he's got the ball in his hands and it was it was great because it was like It was basically the same old Ravens and the fact that they should have won this game by a lot and they couldn't put him away And then it was the opposite of the same old Browns and that Everything we've expected from the Browns. They were able to just throw out and say no, no, we're gonna win this game

Yeah, oh Fumble memes. What are you doing with tackling? You look like USC memes? No, no, we're going to win this game. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, a fumble. Memes, what are you doing with tackling? You look like USC memes. These game is lost. The ridges are going to win this game. It's tank time. That's tough. The browns were air now.

Now the browns were down, not only were they down 14 points, they were down 31 to 17. Yeah, which is the biggest 14 point deficit that you can have when you look at it. You're like, that's, that's at least 21 point. That's when David Nijoku said, I'm gonna fucking take this game over. I could feel it too. I we were watching in the game and I had the Ravens. I was like, this game is not over because it feels like the Browns are still playing very hard and they're coming after the Ravens.

And yeah, I don't, I don't know like the Ravens, they're really, really good still, but it's the same shit that always happens with them where they can't put teams away. I'm also gonna declare a winner of the by-week and that's the Chiefs. Yeah. Chiefs won this by-week because the Jaguars lost and the Browns lost.

No, the Ravens lost to the Browns and I'm just gonna toss the Bengals in there too. The Bengals also lost. Yeah. Congratulations to the Chiefs. Yeah, the Chiefs keep winning and Travis Kelsey, oh my God, did you see him and Taylor? Oh, that was amazing. I boy, the chiefs say, oh, with you.

I saw a big cap, but I can't even. Yeah, because I was crying. I couldn't even. I was crying when I saw Taylor Swift kiss her boyfriend. It was everything because I've never seen a boyfriend and girlfriend kiss before. It was, it was everything I've ever wanted in my life. And I was crying. It was like Max and his friend. That's how that's how deeply in love.

It was oh my god. I can't even my heart is fluttering just talking about two consensual adults kissing. It was so good to see that on film though. Yeah well you know I like to don't feel. Yeah okay. Yeah, well, you know, I liked it on film. Yeah, okay. That was a lot. It was a lot seeing all the tweets about everything. Yeah, it was a lot. They kissed each other.

They kissed. They are dating. Yeah. And she said karma's the guy on the cheese. Yeah. And then oh, but you take home. You don't even know. Did you see your backup dancers when she said that?

Oh my God, I couldn't even. Yeah. What's his name? Watch it. You won't even did the dance that they do? Who's what's his name? The backup dancer. Everyone knows his name. All Swifties know that. Yeah, Phil. Yeah. Fill the backup dancer. All Swifties. You guys are haters. That was cool. Clip. What? That was cool. I liked it. What clip? The haters are a carman Carmas guy on the chief We don't care about that clip. We're talking about her kissing her boyfriend Yeah, she's like oh my god. I can't even believe this. No, but she it was the run up. She was all it was nice

It was nice to say it's I love love you know what this is Max. You're in the doghouse. What? What are you talking about like a guy talking to the doghouse. What? What are you talking about? Like a guy talking to the doghouse right now. That's just that is not the doghouse. I'm trying to know your angle. Yeah, he's in the doghouse. I'm not, I just I just like Taylor. And I say anything. First, you are speaking like a man who has been living the doghouse. I am not in the doghouse. Why don't you speak up when PFT and Big Cat were being perverts? You know that I love Taylor Swift. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong You know that I love Taylor Swift. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Why don't you say something, those guys are disgusting. Do we know who took that video? Because it seemed like they were ready for it.

It seemed like they had the perfect schedule. It was staged. I think it was staged personally. I think it was all a big set up. Fieser probably did it. Evergreen. It was actually Dr. Fauci that was staying there holding the camera.

Everyone please treat it Max tomorrow and just tell him, like, hey, stay strong dude. We've all been in the doghouse. This is just not true. I mean, the funniest thing. We all say shit that we don't want to say when we're in the doghouse Max, I get it. Kelly Keogs are calling, like, love Kelly Keogs. I love Kelly. She live tweets.

She, like, finds streams in these concerts and live tweets the concerts and is like, oh my god she's playing a song and they're gonna propose. Oh my god she's playing another song. I think she said that she's like oh my god. She said Taylor. Now she's doing a concert. Now in Kelly and I have talked about this before because her fandom is no different than our fandom because we sit and we watch Monday football we live to eat it and like they're running wildcat. Oh shit, they didn't ask. Like we are the same people. We just have different likes.

So I never, I will always encourage Kelly to be herself in that respect because that's what we do. But the kissing one, like, the kiss, Max, it was everything. I thought it was cute. Oh my God, he's so easy. I'm not, I'm not. He's so easy. See, this is dog house. Max it was everything I thought it was cute Not I'm not this is this is this is a false there

Not true not true Not in trouble not in trouble I didn't repost it But I thought you sleep in you did you sleep in your girlfriend's roommates bed again? No Generators it seems it's just fucking suck. Oh, it. Captain Raiders. It means this is a good stuff. That's how it's, you sound like chewbuck in there memes. Oh. Oh. Jets are bad. I can't do it. I used to be able to do that.

Yeah, I bet on the Jets. I'm an fucking moron. Okay. Next game. Niners Jaguars. The Niners are back. Niners 34 Jaguars.ars. The Niners are back. Niners 34 Jaguars, three. The Niners turns out for all the hand ringing

about the Niners three game losing streak when they get Debo Samuel Trent Williams in a healthy Christian McCaffrey back. They are really fucking good. They looked a lot better. They looked a lot better. Even the threat of Trent Williams being out in space. There was one touchdown that they had I think it was on debos touchdown

Trent was just pulling out to the left side Running like 25 yards down field looking terrifying like he always does Yeah, and the quarterback just starts like taking the wrong angle and running away from Trent Williams Trent never I don't think he maybe like touches arm briefly didn't really throw a block But just his presence. He's like a gravitational force that makes people sprint away from you. Yes. And it makes the entire offense so much better when he's playing.

Yeah, the 49ers are without a doubt back. And the defense look good too. Yeah, they were flying around. Chase Young and Nick Bosa combined off the edge. They're going to be a force to be wrecked. You could tell that they had like a come to Jesus moment with their defensive unit being like, hey guys, what the fuck are we doing?

We have so much talent. Why are we not playing better? Chris McCaffrey, he, I thought he was more injured than he was letting on because everyone, we do it as a fans where we're like, oh, it's just an oblique, I guarantee if any of us had an oblique injury, we'd probably not podcast for like a month. So he is actually a perfect sign of like, sometimes it's actually good to sit out so that people realize like,

oh, we miss you so much instead of playing injured and not as well. Cause today, I think he averaged 5.9 yards per carry. Like he had that burst back to him. Yeah, here's what we do. If you're injured, we're like, oh, this guy's a bum. Yeah, oh, he's not tough enough to play through it. Yeah, you say, oh, this guy's a bum. And then they're like, not tough enough to play through it. Yeah, you say oh, this guy's a bum

And then they're like well, he's injured and then we say we'll stop making excuses for him It's not enough to play sometimes you aren't healthy enough to play So yeah, but you're you're just a tough motherfucker like Christian McCaffrey It was funny to the the Niners trying to get him a touchdown at the end. Oh, they went to him on all four down They were they're up 343 and and they were inside the 10 yard line and and Brock pretty was throwing passes. Yeah, it was awesome. So he was I think he was going to do the chicken dance to try to get everybody free chicken sandwich at Shake Shack. She scored. America missed

out on chicken. It sucks. Everyone that scored touchdown today that didn't do the dance is a selfish prick. Give the people free chicken. Yeah. It's that simple. Just like give us free chicken. Like I almost said that I was going to match and then I realized I would put me in a lot. A lot. So I'll say if they don't have to match. If a player takes their pants off after scoring a touchdown and takes a shit in the end zone, I will pay for George Pickens bail to get out of jail for doing that. Oh wow. How about that? That's huge. I think he's probably the only one that would take me up on it. And some cheese sticks. And some cheese sticks. Yeah, and free cheese sticks. We should do a cheese sticks give away

I don't know if we have that No, but we should just make a player do something crazy like that if kiddo if kiddo scores a touchdown and Then he pulls up his shirt and it says please subscribe to part of my take their my best friends in the whole world Well, he also might get fine for that because I don't think you can show like words. We'll pay for that. Pay for his fine. And then, free part of my cheese steaks

for everyone who buys $50 worth to part of my cheese steaks. Yeah, yeah, that sounds like a good deal. Okay, balls in your court, kiddo. I tend to get one free. Yeah, like a part card. That's perfect. Did you see that the Jaguars, they have a party button that they press at the start of every fourth quarter?

Oh no. And this was a very sad party button. Thank you so the video. Very funny. It was pretty bad. They got the hype guys down on the field, like, amping people up a giant button that they hit. You gotta know when not to press the party button.

You gotta put the party button away when you get it. Well, I think it was an ad. And so I think it's like, you gotta just do the party button. You got to put the party button away when you get it. Well, I think it was an ad. And so I think it's like, you got to just do the party button in the first quarter. Yeah. You got to do the party button right with like the kickoff because the whole stadium started booing.

Yeah. You should. You should boo the party button. The Jaguars. Max will be so bad at pushing that button. Yeah, he would. Oh, wait for that joke. Oh, Jaguars, are they frauds? I think we have to have

the conversation. I think they might be because the only good team that they beat in is the bills and we don't know if the bills are even that good and it was in England. So when they got to stay for the second week, when they stayed for the second week, so we don't know if the Jaguars are good or not. I mean Trevor Lawrence hasn't been that great this year. No, yeah, he had three turnover say two picks in a fumble. He's been good. Don't get me wrong. Like Trevor Lawrence, I think, is a, he's a fine young man. But he's a better, better human being than he is a football player at this moment. At this moment. Yeah. I love to change my tune on Trevor. Yeah. I think that Jaguars might be frauds. And I don't know. I don't think we'll

get much pushback because I think Jaguars fans are a little different than their, you know, state brothers down south and in Miami. I think Jaguars fans kind of know that they feel like a fan base that is always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Yeah. And they kind of were dreading this game. Like, man, if we don't, if we don't look good because they scored nine points against chiefs, they scored three points against the Niners.

Those are two teams that are very likely going to be in the Super Bowl, and you weren't really competitive against either. So, yeah, I think they might be in the fraud tier. So the reason why Prisco had them in the Super Bowl is because of the schedule. What do you say? Like it's a schedule dummy? Yeah, he had the, he had them in the Super Bowl, but not winning the Super Bowl. Yeah, because their schedule was so easy. I don't know how, oh, because they get the buy because their schedule was so easy. Right. That way their playoff schedule would be easy. It schedule was so easy. I don't know how, oh, because they get the buy, because their schedule was so easy.

Right. That way their playoff schedule would be easy. It would also be easy. But that's not necessarily true, because you still have to play good team. And they lose the tie breaker to the chiefs, and they're also have three losses, and the chiefs only have two.

So the good news if you're a Jaguar's fan, you have one, two, three, four, five games, in which I think you'll be favored for the rest of the season. Okay. Schedule gets back to being nice. Yeah, so the schedule will be good. I think this was a, Pete had this as a loss anyways, right?

When he's, yes. Now look at the schedule. So just get back on track and get some tightings. You'll be fine. Yeah. Also Brock Pertie looked good again. He looked really good. Yeah.

He's fine. He's going to be fine. And it's, I think we're at a safe place with Brock Purti in the fact that if he has all his weapons, Trent Williams and Debo Samuel being very important weapons, he will look like a very good quarterback. And you're right, Trent Williams is a weapon. Yeah.

Like at offensive line, he's without... He doesn't have to worry about the entire left side. Like he just knows that he's gonna be fine. So there's one thing that concerns me about the Niners. One thing I just want to put this in the file to pay attention to. Most people probably start looking at it in the Browns game. Their kicker isn't very good. No.

Moody is not very good. And he makes good in college too. He makes a lot of crazy parts. He makes a lot of field goals that barely go in. Yeah. Like in a lot of extra points, it just barely sneak in. He's not very accurate. And he might, he might end up being a good kicker.

That's what's so weird is like the kicker position is one where if you're not great right off the bat, then you probably won't have any career whatsoever. You don't really have time to grow into it. But he's so far has not looked. I would be very worried about the Niners playing a close game and trusting him as the kicker. Yeah. I would. So he was like a fifth round pick, wasn't he? I don't know. He was a draft. They took him in the draft somewhere. So it probably unlikely. No, he was, I think he might have been a third round or a third rounder. Yeah. They took him in the draft. You don't want to admit that you fucked up a draft pick and move on,

but they did that with trade lengths. If I was, if I was John Lynch, I would, I would probably get a new kicker. That's all I'm going to say. He, yeah, he, I remember him at Michigan being very good. Uh, so I think he hit some very big kicks too. I, that, that game against Illinois last year, uh, in the sandwich spot. So yeah, I don't know what's going on with him. Who is the kicker, um, from Florida state, the Guayo? Yeah. One that his brother tore the turtle in half. Yeah, that don't know what's going on with him. Who is the kicker from Florida State, Aguayo? Yeah.

One that his brother tore the turtle in half. Yeah, that was so fucked. That was pretty fucked up. Yeah, really fucked up. Just for that boys just hanging out. Just guys being dudes, who are not old in half? That's the one, like, I've never heard Billy get more angry at a player than when he found out that this dude abused reptiles.

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The Vikings are in a five game winning streak, the longest streak in the NFL right now. And they are the seventh team since the merger to start one and four and win the next five and All six of those other teams have made the playoffs. So the Vikings They're good like they're just a good team. They're they figured out their defense and they've done this all without Justin Jefferson It's crazy interesting. So there are five and oh without Justin Jefferson. They have done it all without Justin Jefferson Josh jobs like listen the Josh tobs experience might, might fall off at some point because we've known it in the past, but it is fun when it's going.

We do fall in love with quarterbacks like this so easily. In fact, this is the second time this year we fall in love with Josh tobs. It's fun when it's good. We fell in love with Josh tobs. We fell out of love with him when he was on the cardinals. And we're like, okay, well, the Josh tobs thing was fun, but let's move on. Now we're back in on Josh Jobs in a huge way.

Yes. He actually has a good team around him. So it seems like the best guy ever. Impossible to root against. Yes. And I was looking at it, the Viking schedule. So there's six and four, started one and four, crazy. They could win 10 or 11 games. I could see it. They play the Broncos, the bears,

the Raiders. I didn't have to play the Bengals. And they finished the season with the Lions twice in the Packers. They split the Lions games. Like they should be able to beat the Broncos Bears and Raiders, right? And they beat the Packers. That's five wins, six wins. That's 10 or 11 win team. Yeah, I could say it. It's crazy. They're good. Josh Dobbs, at least, learned the name of one of his receivers, TJ Hockinson.

Yes. He loves TJ. Who I broke his back at one point in this game. Yeah, he's a beast. And so he had 11, yeah, 11 catches, he also, he hooked up with Jordan Addison a few times. He's just, he's spread the ball around. He's just a good quarterback.

And you can't, you cannot tell me that Josh Dobbs is not a starting caliber quarterback in the NFL. And he the one thing with Josh Dobbs is he can obviously use his feet. He had a couple awesome runs today that look like video game runs, but he always keeps his eyes down field when he's running and when he's like moving around in the pocket. So yeah, Josh Dobbs is fun. And then on the other side, we got to see James and James gave us all of James. He had two touchdowns, two interceptions through a couple of James passes that one touchdown. He made one incredible pass to Chris Alavi who made it equally as incredible catch. And then he made a touchdown pass where

he threw it all the way across the field that no one in the world would make that pass except for James Winston. And it worked. And it was like, this is awesome. We get to see James. He then threw a couple picks, but the only thing that will save me from being so fucking sick of the same shit because I am sick of the saints. I'm there. A bummer to watch because it's like they have enough guys on the team that you think they're going to be okay. And then they come out and they just play like shit. James Winston's the only thing they can save. Yeah. That, that 10 minute span that you're talking about, James threw a pass that only James Winston would ever even attempt and it worked out and it was awesome. Yeah. Then about eight minutes later, he threw a pass that only James Winston

would ever even attempt and it got picked off. Yeah. And that's why we love watching games. It's the best. And I will settle for having like a full-on, take some hill game where he gets like 11 carries, he gets thrown the ball like three times, he gets the throw, he like passes for a touchdown

and he takes like, I don't know, 10 snaps under center, 11 snaps under center. I'll settle for one of those. I think the common denominator is just that Derek Carr is a bummer to watch play full. He really is. He's just, he looks sad. It might be the eyeliner. He looks too goth to play football. But something about watching Derek Carr starting a game for a team that's on television just makes you ignore that game for most of them. I feel like Derek Carr is just firmly in that camp of, if you're a team at a Derek Car, you love him death because he does seem like a great, great dude. Yeah.

But when you watch him, you're like, can we just stop? Can we just do something anything else besides watching Derek Car play football right now? You know what I think it is? He reminds me a lot of like, he has late stage Drew Breeze. Yes. We're like the very last season and a half of watching Drew breeze. That's what Derek Car looks like every game that he starts. Yeah. That's a bummer. It's a bummer. But when you get James in there, it's a shot in the arm.

He is his football cocaine. Yeah. He's it was awesome to rise the lows. It's all good. In terms of my pinky, I think I was at like a one when, well, I was at a zero when the Vikings were one and four, then they won a couple of games and Kirk cousins got hurt. And I maybe, I went to like a two when they won a couple of games, Kirk cousins gets hurt and I go back down to a one. With Josh Dobbs and the fact they've won five straight in a row, I think I have to admit that I'm like at a four at least.

Kirk's done for the Unimit or what, right? Yes, yeah. he's not gonna, what if he wants to get Stem Cell like Aaron Rodgers did? Oh yeah, he's very much against Stem Cell. Yeah. Um, I, wait, memes, did you get the ball? Fuck you, you did not get the ball. I am at a four and a half.

I had completely forgotten that they were your pinky team. Yeah, that's how little the Vikings being a threat really played into my mind until recently. Now there's shades of the original pinky team, the Texans, when I picked the Texans and they won like 10 in a row and still lost in the playoffs. But I don't think I'm pretty confident

that Vikings aren't gonna win the Super Bowl, but I'm also equally as confident that Vikings will be in the playoffs. Yeah, I was scared. I wonder if we're gonna get more people from Minnesota shaving their eyebrows off. That would be cool. That seemed like it was the start of something good. Yeah.

Do it for Josh Dobbs. He's fun. He's very fun. He's at least Josh Dobbs has gotten himself an awesome backup quarterback contract. Yes. Like for a long time. Yeah, it's amazing that he bounced around as much as he did. Like, no team saw this guy was like, let's just make him

our backup. Yeah, just keep him. Yeah. Okay. Next up, memes you're in the torture chamber. You're losing this game. You know that. Yep.

I mean, we're losing this game. Okay. But home to a field goal. Okay, so you're not, you're not fully there yet. Uh, Steelers 23 Packers 19, the Pittsburgh Steelers have done it again. They got outgained. Yet again, they are six and three and they've been outgained by their opponent every single game they've played this year. And they're the first team to do that and have a winning record since 1940. They are the breaking bad,

like they can't keep getting away with this. I love watching it. It's fun to watch because they find new ways to look bad and still win games. And it's just, it's crazy. I hope it happens every single game this season. Yeah, I hope they do it all the way to the Super Bowl. Exactly, that'd be great, wouldn't it?

If they got outgained in Super Bowl still won. People would be so mad. Like we talked a lot of shit about the Steelers a couple years ago during COVID year, Jets Ball. Jets Ball. Uh, a cup, yeah, and now you need that Wilson to do something. Where they were the worst 11 and O team of all time. I remember that.

From that. Yes. Yeah, and we made fun of them. This Steelers team I'm actually rooting for. Like, I hope this continues to happen. And my question fun of them. This stealer seem I'm actually rooting for. Like I hope this continues to happen. And my question to you, Big Cat is, is this a, uh, is this an indictment of Mike Tomlin that he keeps getting outgain in every game? Or is it a credit to Mike Tomlin that in spite of getting outgain in every single game, he figures out weird waste. It's it's a

credit. Mike Tomlin is an incredible coach. Everything that I've seen from and we've had this discussion before, but finding out how crazy Big Ben, Livia, Ampele, and Antonio Brown all were the fact that Mike Tomman kept that team together. He gets all the credit in the world for me. And yeah, I think he's an incredible coach. And you brought up the 11.0 team because I know people get upset when we put the fraud tag on like the dolphins or the jaguars. The Steelers can't get the fraud tag because I don't think anyone thinks they're that good. They just win game. They're not they're not fraudulent. They are. Yeah, right. Like they're not a very good team, but they have a very good record.

Yeah, they have a point differential and again, bear in mind, they are six and three right now. Yeah, six and three. There's six and three. They have a point differential of negative 26. It's crazy. So we'll last you with the giants. Do we call them frauds or do we just say like, no, because I never thought that it was a Viking.

A Viking. Because to be frauds, you have to to be talked about like you're gonna be a Super Bowl contending team like no one thought the the giants last is a Vikings I mean the Vikings work because they were they had won all those games by one score and they had a crazy record They won the NFC North like the Steelers They're not good, but they're their record is good. Yeah, nobody. I don't know what else to sound I don't think anybody even Steelers fans, look at this Steelers, in fact, like a lot of Steelers fans

are like, I can't fucking stand Mike Tomlin. It's like more of this shit than we still, they're mad because they keep winning. So Mike Tomlin is definitely not gonna get fired. Oh, you wouldn't get fired anyway, because it's Pittsburgh. It's Pittsburgh. But to Tomlin's credit,

they're, he is 27, 7 and 1 in one score games. So that's a big enough sample to see that. Maybe Mike Tomlin is doing some small things, right? You know, we did this week, new wrinkle for Mike Tomlin this week. He paid local refs to come out in referee uniforms because they got in thuck by the ref so many times to actually officiate their practices.

There's like me is like doing like a basketball game with the police. Exactly. Yeah, he was like, okay Well, we're gonna have him close We're gonna figure out how it reps operate what we can and can't get away with I love it I love I yeah, yeah, no I love it and and

In a weird perverse way the Steelers are fun to watch because you know exactly what you're gonna get when you watch Steelers game you're gonna get a lot of frustrating offensive drives You're gonna get TJ watt being a monster. They You're gonna get TJ Watt being a monster. They're defense making a couple of big plays. And like, I think while we were watching this, when the Packers were up, going into the fourth quarter, or was maybe late third,

I was like, the Steelers have them right where they want them. Again, yeah. This is exactly where the Steelers want to be. They want to be down less than a touchdown and be like, all we need is one drive. And then we just play defense. And that's exactly what they did. down a less than a touchdown and be like, all we need is one drive. And then we just play defense. And that's exactly what they did.

And I, yeah, they're, they're weirdly fun to watch. And they ran the ball today, which is more than indictment on the Packers atrocious run. That they thought they figured out for two games. But yeah, they, uh, Jalen Warren and, and Najee Harris had 183 yards on 31 carers. And Najee didn't look bad. No, he, he does look bad when they give Jalen Warren a carry like right after Najee Harris had 183 yards on 31 characters. And Najee didn't look bad. No, he does look bad when they give Jalen Warren a carry like right after Najee Harris carries.

Yes. Where you watch that and you say, well, that guy's way faster. Yeah. Why are they playing this? He looks so much more exposed. Yeah, Jalen Warren did that spin move to no one. Yeah.

It worked. Yeah, it was great. So I will say for Packers fans, you're probably upset about the lateral that wasn't called. And I would agree with you on that. I need somebody who's much smarter than me to explain why that pass from Kenny Pickett wasn't ruled a lateral that was scooped up by the Packers and then returned for a touchdown. Because it very obvious, I think it went backwards at the very, very least.

It went side to side. Then they reviewed it. And then what's the sim that that refs sim that they bring out there? That NARC blend. You know, uh, no, I don't think it was blending it. Blend in it. At least has some balls. And we'll call that. Oh, yeah. I know. Here's your term. Call of the term. Yeah. Turned McCall. Yeah. Turned McCall. If has the balls to get on TV and say you didn't see what you just saw. Yeah. It was right on 1984. He was like, that was wrong. Clearly forward pass. Unless I'm was like, that was a wrong, clearly forward pass. Unless I'm, hate when they do that.

Unless I'm insane, that was very obviously a lateral that should have been allowed to be picked up by the Packers. Yeah. A parallax effect. Parallax. Parallax is calling. Yeah, the pack parallax effect again. It's that a line from above might not actually be accurate or something.

Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. Got the angles. Yeah. The Packers, Jordan Love actually looked, he made some nice plays downfield in the first half. He also threw two interceptions to end the game. Again, I think that this guy is the guy and you have to keep, you have to give him an extension.

You have to, he showed you enough with those, he did throw a dime touchdown pass to, I think it was read. I can't remember, but yeah, you got to give him, you got to, you got to keep going forward with him. He's the guy. He clearly is the guy. Couldn't be more the guy. Let's get some of those gifts going. I love those when it's always like extend your, your team's rivals worst player. Yeah. Let's get some of those. I need it. I need it. He's the guy. Also, TJ Watt is now second all time. Most Saxon first 100 games. Reggie White 105, TJ Watt, 88, JJ Watt, 87 and a half, which is cool for the Watts, but also reminds you how sick Reggie White was. Reggie, Reggie, what might have been the strongest NFL player? He just

throw offensive lineman. The what the hump move that he would do with one arm and just push it off into lineman seven yards behind line scrimmage. I feel like every week we get another TJ JJ stat and then JJ is like, man, this is so cool. Like I couldn't imagine being a perspective and growing up. The perspective is just killing me right now. And then we start to lose sight of the perspective because from our perspective, it's like, okay, another one.

I've been hit over the head. Yeah, right. But I just want to remind myself to have the perspective to from our perspective, it's like, okay, I've been hit over the head with this. But I just want to remind myself to have the perspective to look at JJ Watts perspective and say, that is really cool. Watts stats are score agamis. Yes. I lose the perspective because they keep happening. Keep having too many great ones.

The Watts family is so good at football that I've become numb to how good at football. Yeah. You can just, you can find a stat. There's a stat for that for every single big watt stat. Memes should we what my memes just have a smile on his face. Like things are going great. Zach Wilson is moving the ball. I keep saying to max they should just kick the field.

Well now. So great. Give themselves enough time to get another field goal or a fumble. Yeah, I agree. That was almost a great pass to Garrett Wilson. How are you feeling, memes? I'm feeling good. Why? I don't know. He shouldn't. Yeah, that's the one good Zach Wilson pass that you're going to get. Yeah, it was in the air. He didn't get it. He had to go up for it. All right, Erz, sorry memes. Third and four, it's 16 to 12 Raiders.

You need this first out and you are going to get it. Wow. Great job. Okay, we'll go back to memes in a second. All right, last early game, box 20 Titan 6, this game's stunk. Yeah, I don't really have too many notes on the box Titans game. Where you said that. Yeah, well, it was like very, it was the bucks playing the Titans and the bucks won. I only have a couple notes. Mike

Evans is good for like a comically bad drop every few weeks. He had one today. But then he actually turned around and had 143 yards in touchdown. But he for a guy who's a he's a future Hallfamer. He is if he retired tomorrow, he'd be in the Hall of Fame. Incredible wide receiver, but there still is like three or four times a year. He gets thrown a football and it looks like he's never touched a football in his life. He might.

It's like him and Mike Allstad are the two best offensive players in Bucks history. Yeah. You can confidently say that. Maybe Tom Brady. But maybe you see that drop. It was life. I did say it. It twisted him up and he fell down like he was in like a sitcom.

So my note on this game was related to that drop. You know what his explanation was? What? He said he was thinking about which fan in the front row is going to give it all to if he had caught that touch. He was a share of that. So he was actually, he admitted to it. He was like, yeah, I fucked up.

I was thinking about the fan. Like I was, I was, I had the fan picked out of my head and I tried to catch it. And I thought about my celebration before I caught it, which is, I'll say this. It's better to drop a ball because you're thinking about that. Then it is, if you drop a ball on the two yard line before you run into the end zone, which is a big, not big problem. But yeah, Mike Evans, it looked like a scene like Kramer comes in the door and you throw him a football and he drops it and then he hits over everything in the kitchen.

That's how he fell. But then he came back and played well. The Titans offense is very hard to watch. Will Levis is obviously a rookie. He got beat up a lot today. They're trying to figure it out. The Titans are officially in trying to figure it out mode. Like they got to figure everything out.

They've been there for a while. If I were to ask you, Big Cat, what do you think the Titans record is in the last 16 games? Not good. It's eight and eight three and 13. Yeah, because they remember they collapsed last year. Yeah, they've not been good this year. And somehow, some way, the bucks are not a good football team, but they are, I think,

maybe the best team in the NFC South. Could be. The Saints are the only other answer, because we'll get to the Falcons in a little bit, but like, yeah, I guess the NFC South the energy South sucks bad. It's the worst. It's bad. It's the worst But you got to you got to band together if you're the NFC South You just got to say like we beat each other up. Yeah, that's the old NFC beast playbook But it's it's crazy to watch the box play football and be like this could very well be a home playoff team. Yeah Yeah, that's and that's the weird part about it is is they somebody has to host that fourth spot. Yeah, like the Cowboys might have to go to Tampa Bay. Yeah, which I guess they did last year.

Hank who won your Cowboys. Yeah. I saw a guy in Texas on Saturday. It was like, I love one. Well, I saw a lot of guys. Yeah, you're right. Guys, did you see one guy? Hundreds of guys. One guy came up through and was like, I'm a huge AWL and I loved it. Hank is a Cowboys fan now. Fuck yeah. He was like, finally representation matters. I could see myself in this podcasting. Finally, somebody in national media roots for the Dallas Cowboys. Finally, it's good. Talking about the Cowboys. We should get a former Cowboys player on the show. I've always said we need a Cowboys fan.

I would love to get a Cowboys fan just to do what exactly for that reason, right there. Just like, we should get just a... We have Moose. Preseason. Oh, Jake's here. Hey Jake. Hey Jake, welcome back Jake.

Thank you. No, I'm saying we should we should have like a former Cowboys player because every every single media company has at least two former Cowboys. I can't decide. It would just be great because actually Max, it might be bad for your job security because if there's one person that we would like to laugh at more for their misery than an Eagles fan. It would probably be a Cowboys fan. I would love. I would love. I don't like hate hate Philly like Hank does, but watching Cowboys fans go through misery is the absolute best. I don't hate Philly at all. I just love watching. It would be great to get like a seven foot like a hundred and thirty pound Cowboys fan and just put them next to Max the perfect 10 and just watch them just go at it all I mean I'm not short You would be against a seven footer. Yeah, well can my life Yeah, are you saying you would you look tall next to a seven footer?

No, but like the way you say that made it made it sound like you're short. I was short You're not short, but that what I was hanging out with a seven footer Max you got to just worry about being the doghouse and not in the fucking doghouse. I don't know what you keep saying that Right exactly Okay, before we get to the afternoon games Let's take a break and then we will maybe narrate the end of the jets game that they are on the 23 yard line Trying to score a touchdown before we get to the rest of the games I want to talk to you about Corsolite.

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interception Talk us through it. That was just too many plays for Zach Wilson on that tribe. There was 11 plays You can't have 11 plays It was so bad. The guy wasn't open. You can see the linebacker coming down. Zach Wells is a good and see him. Yeah.

But it was so clear. Now they're going to get it first down on the second down. Oh, yeah. Stop. This is actually even meaner that they're going to like let's have another half the ball again. So you're going to think like, oh, maybe he'll do it. Memes, do you want Aaron Rogers to come back in December? What's our record? Now, let's say you lose two more games. No, one more game. No. So you have to,

you have to go undefeated and play them with the rest of November at the bills and the dolphins next to games. Must wins. It's too bad because the back half of your schedule is getting gets a little bit easier. Yeah, we play the commanders. Oh. We can't score a touchdown. So it doesn't matter. I would just, I was just about some balls. Yeah, we can't do.

We can't do, we can't score a touchdown. We just what, we just watch two prime time games where they can't score a touchdown. Yeah, why? That's true. They can't score a touch. Why do they keep not flexing the jets out? My theory this week is Mike Tereco loves Vegas. Tereco made like nine references to like, oh, you know what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Oh, yeah, things get wild out here in the desert, smoking cigars late at night. I feel like Mike Tereco was like, no, we're gonna go to Vegas. You can't flex that out Well, like even with Aaron Rodgers if he was playing this wasn't even the best game. They would definitely keep him though They want Aaron Rodgers, but like Ravens Browns would have been good

Jaguars 49ers, but what's your What's your theory like how close do you think he actually is do you think he's gonna come back this year? What's your theory like how close do you think he actually is do you think he's gonna come back this year? I think he wants to he I don't think he's ready So the jets are gonna get the ball back with a minute and a timeout you just gonna have to go through the torture again. Yep It's gonna happen again. Can I bet on them to throw another pick? Yeah, probably I'm gonna try to do that live. He's definitely gonna throw another pick. He has to but maybe, you know what memes? Maybe this will be like the greatest thing ever. Like a giant game?

No, I'm saying like maybe we're taping right now, maybe you're gonna have your moment. Your meme's arrival moment. It's almost a passing of the torch in the studio. Jake was Jake, Jake, Kagan laid, he had a flight, Max is in the dog house and is saying, all types of pussy.

Not in the doghouse. And now you are gonna be the alpha. If he pulls it off? Yeah, this is your moment. All right, let's go. Okay, here we go. My theory is they don't want to flex out any games where the Super Bowl is taking place. They want to show off the venue as much as possible.

Oh, that is a good theory, Jay. Because they are, this is their second home one. They beat the Steelers in week three. And then they have a Thursday night game against the Chargers in December. Three home prime time games is a lot. Yeah, that's a good theory. Because yeah, the Raiders weren't supposed to be good. Okay, I like that theory. Okay, next game, Lions Chargers. Unbelieveable game. This is what a game. What a game. If you like offense, it was great. Yes. This was um The Lions offense is so good and I know it's a lot of the Chargers defense being so bad. The Lions defense was not so good and I walked away from this game being like, I guess the lines can win shootouts, but man, their defense like got torched. Like poor, poor Justin Herbert,

Justin Herbert played his ass off and he has the second, second, uh, most money invested in a defense in the NFL. Steelers being one, charges being two, and a defense of head coach. And that defense fucking sucks miserable. They were Lions players were running open everywhere. There was a fourth and five or six that the Lions ran the ball. Yeah. And they ran it for a first. It was fourth and five. And Dan Campbell says go for it, which is kind of a ballsy play. And then to run an inside handoff against a defensive coach, just like kick and dirt in the little nerds face. That's what it was.

It was Dan Campbell be like, yeah, I'm a football guy. You're not in the lion's offense now that their offensive line is healthy. Like they look like they are all the way back on offense, which makes them a very scary team. I don't know. Their defense was driving me insane. It felt like Justin Herbert, like, it really did feel no matter what,

whoever had the ball last was gonna win the game because no one could stop either team at any point. Yeah, I want to go back to October 22nd of last year. Oh my God, Zach was just made an incredible pass. October 22nd of last year, Dan Campbell said, this is rock bottom. Why aren't they using their timeout memes? Oh, they used, they just wasted say wasted the beans. You call them Bob. Hey, it's Bob's law. Oh, I think Bob saying that you owe me,

you owe me more seconds. Yeah, I put those seconds back on the phone. Give me every second that I lost. But yeah, October 22nd last year, Dan Campbell said, this is rock bottom for us guys. This is the most heartbreaking loss we can have. Since that loss, they are 16 and five. Yeah, they're good. He called it. He called it. Just like Hank called rock bottom earlier today.

Dan Campbell called it. October last year, he was right. I think it was that game against the Patriots so they didn't score. Might have been. Yeah, my, my, how tides of turn since then, huh? Yes Yes, I was like really the fork in the road for two franchises, but yeah, the lines they can win in different ways and I don't know if they can win in different ways. They have to just score a shitload of points. No, they can beat the shit out of you sometimes

No, I'm just saying their defense is, I don't know if Aaron Glenn makes adjustments. Yeah, I, I, like watching that game was so stressful because I bet a lot on the lines and being like, whenever the Chargers have the ball, it's not a question of will they score. It's just when will they score? Their defense is sus, for sure. Oh, Zach Wilson, what's he gonna do? Throwing it deep. Oh my God, it almost worked. All right, let's have it. We have one last play here, and then we'll get back to line's chargers.

Five seconds on the clock. Memes can be the alpha of this studio if he wins this game. If Zach Wilson pulls off, you know he's got the arm strength, Memes. This would be so sick. This would be so sick. This would be so sick. I need to do that out of bounds. What are you doing? This would be so sick memes.

Imagine if he does it. Imagine. He's not going to do it. It looks a little panic right now. You don't believe he's going to do this. Spoiler alert. He's not going to do it. What if he's going to do it? He's going to do it. Oh, we're going to get a do it. What is he doing? He's gonna do it. He's gonna do it. He's gonna do it.

Oh, we're gonna get a timeout. What is the most, what's the most Zach Wilson way to in this game? I think a fumble, a sack fumble will be pretty good. Yeah, like a 20 yard sack. Yeah. Throwing it away. Yeah.

Side line. Gets bad at down, hit right back to him. Then he runs out of bounds. Yeah, I guess the pass gets deflected. Gets bad it down hit right back to him then he runs out of bounds Yeah, I guess the pass gets deflected. There's still time like he throws a quick pass to try to get a couple more yards It gets bad it down. He catches it and then he gets tackled in bounds And he tries to throw it again on his way down and that's it. That's it. Yeah, that's it So funny. I can't believe you actually think this could happen. Maybe I'll look like the biggest idiot ever, but I'm not going to. And I bet on the jets. I would love for

the staff. It means this would be incredible win. All right, memes. Here you go, Zach Wilson, taking the snap. He's going back. And he's going get Zach. Oh, no, no, he's running backwards Let it rip let it rip Zach. He lets it rip. It is It was almost caught That was actually as close as you can get was that carrot Wilson Do and let's just say right now that was an incredible play by Zach Wilson to avoid that sack That's why you drafted him. That's why you gotta give him a new contract.

That was the off platform throw. Yeah, it was. It was rolling to the left, throwing to his right. That was literally the full Zach Wilson. That's why you get that guy. That was so close memes. We gotta see this replay. Yeah, he touched it.

He touched it. He touched it all over it. He's still not gonna get it on the replay memes. Oh got to see this replay. Yeah, he touched it. He touched it. He touched it all over it. He's still not gonna get it on the replay memes. Oh no, Hank. That's rude. What do you know? Like you're like, let me see this replay. It's not gonna make it better.

We found out today that memes has Hank's number saved in his phone as enemy. A budding rivalry, not even a budding. It is a rivalry. It's full blown. I love it. Yeah, that's my boy. Give me a light. All right, we're never going to see the replay. We're never going to see the replay. They're not going to show the replay. Maybe he caught it memes, and that's why they're not showing the reggae. Yeah, maybe they will. They

got to show the handshakes first, because that's life. Okay, here we go. Let's watch three. See how close he was memes. He's gonna make it better. Me incredible job by Zach Wilson to avoid the sack. Got a little help from the ref. What a throw. And I don't think anyone could have caught it. No, I think he touched. No, I don't think it was.

I don't think it was catchable. That's a great play by Zach Wilson. Hey, that's a hazy. Hey, against Crosby. And oh, he definitely could have caught it. There Wilson could have caught that. Oh, we're Wilson. Always gotta do is be a little bit better. Oh, no, the guy in front of him.

Is that Conklin? Yeah, Conklin took it away from Care Wilson. Sorry, memes. Sorry, memes. This sucks. Devote Adam smiling. Recap real quick, memes. Your memes. This sucks. Yeah, Devote Adam smiling recap real quick memes. Your season is over season the seasons over again. Okay, still can't score a touchdown no longer the best team in the NFC. No longer. I think I think we're bottom 15 in the NFC.

Okay, bottom 15 in the NFC. Teams 60 up bottom 15, not the worst. Okay. And Aaron Rogers not coming. Aaron Rogers not coming back. I don't think Joe Douglas is coming back either. Oh, he's built this roster meme. I saw him trending a lot. It's a good roster.

Josh dobs is doing good. Do you think they're gonna? Oh yeah, Josh, Josh, Josh dobs could win some games with the Jets. Josh dobs is a big reason why Joe Douglas has been trending. Well, because they just said we're gonna stick. Well, I heard Salah last week when they were talking about, like there was somebody in the press that was asking him,

why haven't you brought in a new quarterback yet? Why aren't we giving Zach Wilson some competition? And they did with Trevor Simmian, right? But they're not giving him a chance to start. Yeah, so the question was a fair question. And Salah said as much, he was like, you know, that's like our respect, that question. It's a good question. It's just we're going to go with the guy that we have right now.

It almost felt like it was coming from above him, whether that was Joe Douglas or if it was Woody Johnson saying, no, let's stick with Zach Wilson. Don't bring anybody else in it. It felt like it wasn't his call to make Josh. So to won that game. Yeah. Josh stops. So to won that Carson wins might have won that game.

Carson wants to reach out. Did you see that report? Oh, he reshought twice. Oh, put that in a shot again. He's so thirsty. Monday night again. I say, if Carson went showed up at my doorstep, I would call the police. But he asked twice.

Yes, twice. He's like, he's like, he's a playful football. He, twice. He's like, yeah, I really want to play football. He's like, are you sure? Yeah. I really want to play. They're like, nope. Nope. They're like, well, yeah, we'll be back in touch with you and let you know.

And he's like, yeah, I'd never really heard back about that job opening. I wanted to fall up. I nailed the interview. I sent my resume in and I got a read receipt on it. And so I wanted to follow up on that. Man. Sorry, memes. Lions Chargers, back to Lions Chargers.

I don't know what the Chargers were doing. They spent all that money on defense and they don't have any linebackers. That was the shocking thing in this game where it was just like the running game, the Lions ran it all over them and then anytime they wanted they had guys crossing the middle of the field wide open. There were a million times when, whether it was St. Brown or somebody else, would catch the ball like seven yards down, and then they'd run an additional seven yards

before getting to, they might not have lineback. Yeah, they might not. It might just be a defensive line, and then you've got four defensive backs, and they forget to put linebackers out there. Well, it's kind of the field was incredibly wide open. Yeah, and Ben Johnson is an awesome play collar. and they forget to put linebackers out there. Well, it's kind of the field was was incredibly wide open. Yeah. And Ben Johnson is an awesome play caller.

Like that was a fourth down when he threw the over the top tight end touchdown. Yeah. That was sick. Like lines are so much fun to watch. I'm just very worried that their defense is not good. And maybe it's just Justin Herbert's very good because I really do, if you watch this game and anyone who's like Justin Herbert's not not really good, you're just not watching the game because he is really good and his defense is really, really bad.

They look really good. The lines defense look good against the Raiders. Yeah. Under offensive genius Josh McDaniels. Okay. I forgot that. Yeah, let's actually. It's real quick. Congrats to the lines. You got your defense was good enough to get Josh McDaniels fired. Yes, which is a net positive for football. And then you had a good game against the Bucks too, which is also not a good offense. Also not a good offense.

Yeah. So who who is very one dimensional can't run the ball. Um, yeah. That's not I guess they look good against the Falcons too. Yeah, but like the the Seahawks put up 37 on them. Yeah, the defense, the defense is definitely suspect. And it's crazy because they watching the Lions play defenses. It's so frustrating because I feel like there's so many times where they almost get a sack.

And they just don't. And then it's like, oh, that's a 15 yard play. And I guess maybe that's just the difference came ventures ever heard of it. But it is Lions fans, I feel bad for you because your offense is so legit and watching that defense is tough on certain Sundays. But when you start playing really good quarterbacks, that's who's most likely gonna be in the playoffs.

But the good news is you might be able to outscore most teams. Yeah. So you're off and you'll play fun football. Jerry Goff is great. He's awesome. I'm glad that we held our stock Jerry golf. I'm surprised Hank didn't sell that one too But we did kind of kind of a little bit. He well, I think Hank said he's great on play action Yeah, but when you remain committed to Jerry golf being elite you root against them in the Super Bowl

He did root against the Super Bowl incredible JimiRy Gibbs also was so fun to watch I, I love rookie running backs when they have those fast legs. Yeah, and they got the rookie legs. You can tell instantly if it's a rookie that's running the ball. And Dave Montgomery's back. He's back officially. Uh, by the way, we got breaking find out where the Water Dogs home is. Oh, Tuesday, the dog house.

Fourth center, 2 p.m., we're gonna find out where the Water Dogs home is. I've had conversation with Paul. I have an inkling of where we might be. We talked about a bunch of different cities. There was talks about Chicago, Denver, Great Lakes, Philadelphia, all these cities. I'm very excited to see where the water dogs are going to be.

We should call our state in the doghouse. Yes. That would be perfect for Max. He'd feel right at home. Uh, that's exciting. We're going to find out where the water dogs live. I'm very excited about that. So Tuesday at two o'clock Eastern on Sports Center,

Paul Ravel's going to tell us what city will be the home of the water dogs. This is a revenge season too. Yeah. Oh, big, we're angry. Big time. We don't do second place. Yes.

Okay, so I hope heads roll. Heads need to roll. That's huge. I think maybe new logos too. Ooh, which would be cool, because then we can do throwback logos. I like that, you know, throwback day. Yeah, that actually 2021.

Next time we have Paul on, we gotta to tell him like change your logo every year. That way your throwback logo. Everyone loves to throwback logo. I think that anytime a team wins a championship, they should retire that logo. Yeah, like when the run is over. So like you remember it, you can stay with it for the next season, I guess, but then maybe retire it once you don't win again. And so, okay, that's the Super Bowl logo.

I like that. I like that a lot. So Tuesday, 2 p.m. Eastern Sports Center, Paul Rebels going to tell us where the water dogs Maybe retire it once you don't win again. Okay, that's the Super Bowl logo. I like that. I like that a lot. So Tuesday, 2 PM Eastern Sports Center, Paul Rebels is going to tell us where the water dogs live. And then we're going to, I mean, it's going to be big news for us, boys. Huge news. All right.

Back to football. Cardinals of Falcons, Kyle Murray is back. So back. He looked good. He looked really good. He was so fast today. So fast. Kind of. He looked really good. He was so fast today so fast. Kind of adorable running around back there and he's got a like

Tray McBride is a legit weapon for him like the Colour Murray took them on a game winning field goal drive that he could easily score a touchdown They got all the way down on the five yard line. Yeah, it's fun You forget that you know, there's a lot of stuff off the field a lot of conversation about Colour Murray Whether or not he like really loved playing football When he's on the field he looks awesome. He looks like he's having fun when he's playing the league is more fun when Kyler Murray's playing Especially because he plays for the Cardinals, which is usually an afternoon time slot team And it's like you know you usually get a couple games that there's three four games if two of them suck

You're like, this sucks. When Colour Murray's involved, the game's usually your fault. He's the only player that he can drift back like five or 10 yards in the pocket and a defense alignment will be running at him. And then they'll be like, wait, I'm in a whole lot of space with Colour Murray and they'll stop pursuing a sack. And they'll just stand there and wait for him to turn around and run towards him because they know that if you run at him

He's gonna step around you and now there's even more space from to go to he's he's very fun to watch with the ball I had fun watching color my day. I thought he was gonna be rusty if you're a falcons fan Correct me if I'm wrong, but they've they've now lost to the Vikings Titans and Cardinals Which are three teams in a row with quarterbacks with exactly zero starts for those teams between the three of them on the season. Yeah, on the season. Yeah. So I guess you could say Arthur Smith is getting hosed because he doesn't have any tape to watch on these guys before the play, but that's a bad look. Yeah, the seat might be getting hot for our friend Arthur to put it mildly. Yeah.

And Hainaki got injured today, so they put Ritter back in and say something nice about Desmond Ritter. Didn't look bad when he came back in the game. I thought he looked bad. He at least tried. He didn't look as bad. He tried to throw it downfield. Yeah. That's that would be the nicest thing I could say about Desmond Ritter where he in the past he would you know Not throw it downfield He tried a couple times and we got Bigeon today Bigeon Robinson get a full workload. Yeah, wait out of the dog has proved that's not a winning formula out of the dog All of you nerds were wrong 22 carries doesn't make you win don't ask how how many receptions Kyle Pits had and how many yards he had that doesn't matter.

But you got your B-john wish. It three for 30, three for 30. It's explosive. They've gone to nowhere. Maybe was a late edition. It was after we recorded. Yeah, there should be there should be a warning if it's Kyle Pits specifically. And thank you to the Cardinals because they won a game. And now the updated tankathon is the Panthers in sole position of the first pick Which is the Bears pick huge so thank you to the Cardinals I think they could probably win a few games here with Kyler Murray Hank would you like to know who you're selecting? Yes, please you are now third

So it goes Caleb Williams Drake May Marvin Harrison Jr. To the face. Love that. Love that Drake May, Marvin Harrison Jr. to the stage. Love that. Love that. Who's gonna throw a ball, Bayley Zappi? Yeah, Bayley Zappi had some nice zip on a couple of those passes. Listen, if you get Marvin Harrison Jr. that like you can get you so excited for a very long time. Would you be less excited about Bayley Zappi if his name wasn't Bayley Zappi?

I think I would. I think the name, it's just kind of electric. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bayley Zappi was awesome in college. Love watching playball. Okay. Next up Cowboys Giants. Oh boy. The Giants say something nice about the Giants. Tommy DeVito's family looks awesome. Central casting, the most Italian New Jersey family you could you could see.

There was the whole story this week that Tommy DeVito still lives at home and was like, why wouldn't I? I get my laundry done, chicken cutlets. Just so perfect. It is. And I wanted to defend him on this because he lives in New Jersey. He lives pretty close to New York.

It's not cheap to live there. He's not getting paid a whole lot of money. Mom's probably a great cook. His mom is probably awesome. He's probably got a good set up there. So shout out to Tommy DeVito, who's wearing the TD gold chain around his neck during the time. And like if there's ever a community that you can get away with that, it's the Italian community. Yeah. You see live at home until you find a wife.

It's perfect. His mom probably won't let him move out. Your mom is your wife until you find a wife. His mom looked like she wanted to kick Brian Davies' ass during this game. Like what the fuck are you doing to my son? And his dad was like, that's your fucking door downplay? Yeah. His dad, his dad is perfect. Yeah, his family was the best part of this game.

Just using your hands to yell at the giants and everything. Yeah. There were a few plays in the first half especially where the game plan seemed to be just get Tommy DeVito as far away from the ball as possible. So they had him run out wide and they would do like a last second wildcat thing. And when they split him out wide, they split him out very wide, like very old. I'm like, run off the field, whatever you do, don't touch the ball during this play. And you know what I always think about with guys like Tommy DeVito who, you know,

they probably don't have a long career in the NFL. Just give it time, Tommy DeVito,ito because you'll at some point in your life 10 years from now You'll be working a job maybe coaching football. You'll have your giants Tommy DeVito Game more in Jersey hung up in your office and you'd be like, yeah, I threw a few touchdown passes in the NFL What do you think his next job is gonna be I think meat so I think maybe steak you might still steak store the NFL. What do you think his next job is gonna be? I think meat, so much. I think maybe steak. You might still steak-storted or? Yeah. Maybe garbage.

Yeah, I could get in the garbage. Wait, it's my standard. Wait, sanitation. Sanitation. Yeah, no, but like dad does. Yeah, you got it. He's not holding it in the eating business. All right, so perfect.

But he is like, just think about that Tommy. There will be, you know, you, you, people are joking on you right now. You've been putting a terrible, terrible spot. But at some point, enough time will pass that people will be like, oh yeah, remember Tommy, if you know, that was fun. I love the fact that they're not even trying to put

Matt Barclay in the game. And if you look at Matt Barclay's Wikipedia page, at least earlier today, it listed him as being a former NFL quarterback, even though he's been on, I think he's been on the team for like a week maybe. Yeah. But they're not even thinking about him. They're saying next week, we're rolling with Tom Bidogan. Tom Bidogan. Yeah. He's the, he's the, it's so Italian, he is the tank top. Well, yeah, the best possible guy you can have to tank if you're the New York Giants. Yeah. And they, uh, the, the Giants had seven drives, their first seven drives that won first down.

They didn't gain more than 17 yards until their ninth possession. Then Tommy DeVito did have two touchdown passes, but in the first half, the Cowboys had 28 points and the Giants had 27 yards. Yeah. It wasn't good. And the Cowboys,

even the Cowboys kind of came out a little slow like to act through a bad interception, but then there's nothing that the Cowboys, even the Cowboys kind of came out a little slow, like tack through a bad interception, but then there's nothing that the Cowboys like doing more than just beating the fuck out of bad teams. And Dac looked awesome, he made great throws. Like that is the Cowboy way. They've won 12 straight at home. This season alone, their scores at home is 170 to 50.

170 to 50. 170 to 50. It's pretty good. Everybody got involved. They're just beating the fuck out of teams. They beat the giants this year, 89 to 17. Yeah, I don't know what we can take away from this game for the Cowboys. No, it's like more of the same.

I think it's just like it adds to what we already thought about the Cowboys earlier. Yeah, the Cowboys are just, if they play a bad team, take them every single day. I feel bad for Sequan Barclay. I feel so bad for him. Going into this game, he knew that it was just basically going to be him on offense, and then they were just going to hope that everything worked out. The game plan was like get through this game without Sequan injuring himself.

Yeah. Somehow, and try to, like, they were down, I think, 28 to zero. And Sequan was just looking up at the scoreboard, just like, get me the fuck out of it. It was sad. It was sad to watch. It was sad to watch. Yeah, that's, I mean, this game went, I, listen,

I know that, like, I'm a bad gambler, but I took the Cowboys today, because I was like, this spread isn't enough. Yeah, like, it's not enough. I took the Cowboys, I took Tommy De this spread isn't enough. Yeah, like it's not enough I took the Cowboys. I took Tommy DeVito's under for passing yards It was 157 and a half somehow to the hit it over no 86 He had 86 yards, which is actually like a pretty good game for Tommy. Yeah Tommy. He had two touchdown pass. Yeah It's not bad. Yeah

Two touchdowns one or exception That's a good game. Yeah. That's pretty good for Tommy Davido. He out. I'll say that he's a six oh 175. I think was their total yards. He had 172. He no longer looked like the example of could you get a first down if you were put in as an NFL quarterback. Yes. He looks serviceable. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, at times. And yeah, I think that the, like the Cowboys, it'd be nice if they played the BCS era. Yeah, because they score style points against these bad teams. Yeah, computer bump them up in the rankings.

Yeah, exactly. All right, last game. Seahawks 29, commanders 26. You know what, I'll make it the road back question of the week. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Use promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Qs, this, polo, this hoodies. Jogger shorts.

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Yoffs. Yoffs. I just got to switch around a couple games. Okay. This is going to move some things around. I got to move some things around. This one I had as a win in my spreadsheet in my head. So we just you know what we have to do? We got steel one. We got steel one. Now we have to steal one against the dolphins. Yes, still so if we steal one against the dolphins Then there's still a path there I don't really have Expectations for this team anymore like it seems like the Minnesota Vikings Are good enough where I don't I don't necessarily think that my original plan to get to nine wins would get us into the playoffs

Yeah, the Vikings might get nine or ten We do have the time break over the Falcons, which is nice though. But today won't come in handy. No, I'm just saying that actually will hurt the draft. I know I just read. I read that was that was one good thing that the managers have done. So we do have that tiebreaker. It's okay to run the ball.

I just want to say for reference Eric being me, it's okay to run the ball. You can run the full. It's the Andy Reed system where they use the running backs as, you know, an extension of the past game or I guess the the short passing game is really an extension of the running game that they do. Which is short passing game work. It does work and Brian Robinson had a great, great touchdown off that. Really the two best plays of the day came off. Sam House scrabbling out of the pocket, finding a running back and then getting a big gain off it. Sam House, still the guy. he's a hundred percent the guy. Yeah, that touchdown drive at the end was awesome.

He's great. He had 312 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. He's not taking sacks like he used to. He got sacks three times today, but it's not as bad as it was in the past. So he's learning, he's growing. We've seen growth. I'm close to saying like I'm okay with tanking at this point

But the fact that we're in the hunt graphic right the in the hunt graphic fucks me up Oh all the time because the in the in the hunt graphic is a very powerful narcotic if you have a bad team and You should be rooting for them to tank to get a better draft pick But you see that fucking in the hunt graphic and you think to yourself We can make the playoffs and listen Pittsburgh sealers. They won the Super Bull as a wild card like it's happened before It happens actually not that infrequently where you make a little run the playoffs So you start deluding yourself and you think fuck I'm in the hunt if I could just get out of the hunt and into the game Just give me a chip in a chair. It is it could happen in the playoffs

It never it doesn't really work out that way. And I should stop thinking about that. But every time they put that fucking in the hunt graphic up, I want to win that game. The, you know, the bears are one game behind the commanders and we have the tiebreaker. You're almost in the hunt. Just putting in a perspective that the commanders might be that's a little search to the bottom. That sounds like some fuzzy math. There's no way. Let's throw that out there. You're one game behind the commanders. Come, come, come home.

Put home. Did you see? Wait, wait, no, I want, I know the in the hunt always fucks me out. If I'm in the hunt, counterpaste, giving it's like, let's fucking go boys. Time to nut up. Okay. All time counterpoint big cat. Here's the in the hunt graphic or the bears on there.

No, but I'm just saying you're we are one you're one more loss that a bears win away from being before after the loss. This is before the loss. We were the first one we were the first one in the hot though. We're the hot but the in the hunt. No, the in the hunt is my favorite graphic in the world. I just aspire to be in the hunt in Thanksgiving. Yeah, over the in the hunt.

And I'm like, oh yes. I'm also learning that we're still in the in the hunt and it Thanksgiving. Yeah, put it in the hunt and I'm like, oh yes. I'm also learning that we're still in the hunt. The end the hunt graphic is actually bad. They've also, they've definitely made the end the hunt graph with bigger. Yeah, like they've put everyone in the hunt. They tried to rebrand it last year with a sniffing around. I like sniffing around and lurking.

I do think somehow it was great though. Do you think that they should have gone for two? Yes, yeah, that's the other thing. Like Ron Rivera, you pussy. Riverboat Ron. No, why has anybody ever called you that? I was screaming at the TV, go for two. We're on the road.

Our defense sucked. The only reason I would say not to go for two there was there was a lot of time left. Yeah, but our defense sucked. No, I know, but like, I feel like you go for two when there's 10 seconds left. It's like the game is over It probably wouldn't have affected the outcome of this game because our defense was gonna give up a drive to Gino Smith

Anyways, who was great at the end? He was very you know look look like you know I did have the theory that maybe I was too hard on Gino after he played the Ravens in the Browns So Gino looked back to being Okay, he looked yeah, he looked okay. I think he looked pretty good today. Yeah. And our defense was bad. Somehow you lose our two best pass rushers and you can't generate pressure on the quarterback.

It's weird when that happens. Yeah, defense is a really bad fire jacked El Rio, fire Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera is definitely a guy that's been mentally checked out for weeks, just weeks. He doesn't give a shit. Guess what? You're going to beat the Giants next week and you'll be even more in the hunt. Yeah, that's the thing. We're now like nine and a half point favorites at home against the Giants. And so we win that game and then we're back at the top of the In the Hunt graphic. Yeah. I want to win another game after that. And then Cowboys.

And we got Steel one against the Dolphins. Yep. And then anything can happen. Anything can happen. And we got, then we we got chilling on the bump. Yep rams Jets who Memes through in the white towel We're not out of it yet. You still do have to play the 49ers and cowboy We might steal one against against the cowboys too play the cowboys twice in the 49ers But we might steal the last game against the cowboys. Yeah, you're not gonna beat the cowboys in Dallas because that's when they like to get their BCS rating That's when they like to beat up on bad teams

No, it's not Thanksgiving. Wait, is it Thanksgiving? Yeah, it is Thanksgiving. Oh God. I gotta watch the commanders We're gonna wait on Thanksgiving. We're guys. We're gonna steal one We're gonna steal one on the road Thanksgiving and then we're gonna steal one against the 40 there is voice They did not then we're gonna steal one against the dolphins Then we're gonna steal one against the Cowboys at the season because the Cowboys will be already set in their playoff spot. Yeah, in week 18. Mm-hmm. They will. So I feel like they lose in Thanksgiving. That's going to mean they're going to probably need to get another win. Yeah, that's true. You just kind of that. We're going to top. We're

going to tie him on Thanksgiving. Yeah, if you beat the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, they will have to play week 18. We're gonna tie him on Thanksgiving and then that tie will put them into the third spot and they'll be locked in the third spot in the playoffs and then they won't have to play week. And then don't let the Eagles see the commanders. Don't let, you don't wanna see us three times.

You do not wanna see. It's hard to beat a team three times big cat. Yup. Is that true? Max, you should be worried about that. I don't, I see us three times. You do not want to see. It's hard to beat a team three times big cat. Yeah. Is that true? Max, you should be worried about that. I don't, I agree with PFT. I don't want to see the commanders in the playoffs. Yeah.

Exactly. I'm the biggest same, same how believer out there. Thank you for the support. Sam Howles now four in one lifetime against Superbowl winning coaches. This being his first loss. Yeah. Pete Carroll.

Yeah, see Hawks look, they look good offensively. I'd hard to say how much of that was just the commander's dog should defense and how much was Seattle actually figuring something out. Um, but yeah, credit to them. They're a good team. Yeah, they are. I think the Seahawks are a good team. That's a tough place to play. They're a good team that I don't think can win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I grew that. Let's do that real quick. Teams that can win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I agree with that. Let's do that real quick. Teams can win the Super Bowl. I was thinking about it another way because we obviously have friends on the show and anytime they have a bad game, everyone's like they're overrated and there's certain quarterbacks that like I don't care if they have two, three bad games

in a row. I'm not going to say that they're bad. Josh Allen, Joe Barrow, Patrick Mahomes, like some of these quartervettes, like Jared. Jared never have three bad games. These are the Corvettes, like, I think they're pretty good. Don't, one game doesn't make it. Uh, front of the program, if you place against a good team. Uh, all right, teams that can win the Super Bowl. Dolphins.

Chiefs. I Dolphins can't win the Super Bowl. Yes, they can. You think so? Yeah. Have they beaten any good teams? No, but they can. Dolphins chiefs I dolphins can't want to support this again For so yeah, have they beaten any good teams? No, but they can they can okay. All right my list is Kansas City Baltimore Cincinnati in the AFC I'm gonna add one to that big cat. I actually might add one too Are you thinking what I'm thinking I'm thinking where you we say it three two one ready? Three two brown. I was gonna say browns. Okay, Browns. Yeah, I might add the Browns because to Sean like you said it's good

If he's good that defense is good enough defense with championships people forget that yeah, and then in the NFC I have an Eagles 49ers Cowboys no Wait, have we actually determined that the Cowboys are officially frauds? Because that was a statement lost that they had it. Yeah, they won that loss. They won the loss. They won the loss.

They even admitted it. He's like, they shouldn't have, if the Eagles, if the Eagles were honorable people, they would have given the Cowboys that way. If the Eagles were smart, they would have given that win because that way you give a false sense of confidence to your opponent and know you can beat them. Here are the teams. This Dallas Cowboys have beaten this year. The New York Giants, the New York Chets, the New England Patriots, the Los Angeles Chargers, the Los Angeles Rams, the New York Giants. Okay. Hmm Hank Not exactly murderers row is that the chargers without austachler Might have been the they will have they will have games that they can prove it though

They play the Eagles bills dolphins in a row and lines all in a row in December So that will be actually holy shit their December schedule is Seahawks Eagles bills Dolphins Lions commanders. Comment. Well, yeah I'm talking about playoff teams. Well in the hunt. That's five potential playoff teams right there So yeah, I so we have four teams in the AFC And two teams in the NFC lines fans are being mad at you. I listen. I think the Lions are a great story. They're offence is incredible. They're defense. They have to be able to stop someone. Maybe they figured out. They do have a lot of defensive talent. I just you have to be able to see them stop someone. I think if you were to ask Lions fans truthfully right now, like do you do you think this team could win

the Super Bowl? They would probably say yes. I guess there is a style. Yeah, they could they could they could have been waiting for the season. No, I mean, they're having a great time. And I don't want to take anything away from the season because if you're a Lions fan, you should go to like every away game. You should you should throw parties during NFL Sunday. You should like get on message boards and brag and like invade other teams' message boards and be like, fuck you were the Lions. We're not going anywhere. You should do all that stuff. But I also think that they know that defense

is not good enough right now to be able to be really better teams in the playoffs. Yeah, this is the right now, by the way. This could change. There could be material changes. The Lions defense, like, I know that it's becoming offensive league, but defense, you still need a very good defense, you do, especially into playoffs. I don't know if that's true, but defense, you still need a very good defense. You do, especially into playoffs.

I don't know if that's true, but it's lions going to get it. Lions going to San Francisco. San Francisco, maybe not, but oh, you have the fillet. You have the Niners over the Eagles right now. Yeah. Oh, okay. Maybe the Lions can just outscore teams. If you outscore them, you win.

It's true. So and Jalen hurts might not be healthy. So maybe the offense of the Eagles couldn't outscore the Lions can just outscore teams. If you outscore him you win. That's true. So And Jalen Hertz might not be healthy. So maybe the offense of the Eagles couldn't outscore the Lions I'll put the Lions in a parentheses Maybe the Lions and Browns that actually feels a perfect place for both of them. They're in our tickler file of Could be they also have an easy schedule coming up. So more ones can be on the way. Yeah, seven to Detroit Yeah, it'd be so it'd be so good if the Steelers won the Super Bowl. Alliance, Alliance, two Alliance home playoff games were fucking rock.

Man, that would rock. I just want one. Yeah, but if they can keep winning games, it could get two, they could get the two C. Yeah, but just imagine the pop that it's gonna get. Yeah, big pop. Thanks, given to a pop too. Yeah, Thanksgiving is gonna pop. Okay, big pop. It would rock. Thanksgiving's gonna pop too. Yeah, Thanksgiving is gonna pop.

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promo code take at mugsy.com. Okay. Who's back in the week? Henry, I got a couple. Hank, you're so prepared. Thank you. We talked about that. Oh, that's weird. Do we have the report? Yeah, it's ready for one day. Oh, is it ready? I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.

I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm't know. The no stop toxic usually works. If you want to think maybe your lack of preparation set the tone for the Patriots this weekend. Yeah, possibly. Um, first one was. It's good that you were golfing all Friday night instead of working on your report. I thought Hank wasn't golfing on

weekends. I was at work. We're streaming. Yeah, you should have been working on your report. The AWL's desperately want to see. I tried to hang he was dialed though. We're streaming. Yeah, you should have been working on your report. Okay. The AWL's desperately want to see. Spread it to Hank, he was dialed, though. You're playing pretty well. First one was a lot of practice. Travis Scott and Taylor Swift, we talked about that. Travis who? Travis Scott. Travis Scott. Travis Taylor Swift. I'd imagine. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift talked about that already maxed in the doghouse. Yeah, oh my god is not the doghouse not in the doghouse. Oh so cute Oh my gosh, I respect it was so cute. I respect love and I respect the Kelsey family My second one is Max Homa. Yeah, yeah, you won the African world cup of golf I Even though there was golf play this week. That's actually it's more

important than the wider tanks. It is. It's it's the road to Dubai. The world tour, Torven. Yeah. Don't know how that was. How much do you make? Don't know that. Let's find out. But he had it out for us. I mean, they, he put up a Instagram store where he was like, he was on just a bunch of people's shoulders. Like they were throwing them up in the air. Yeah, the locals were like doing some sort of ceremony. Yeah. He was like crowd surfing. What are they, what are they,

what's that called Jake and a Jewish wedding? Is there a name for that? Well, there's the horror. They look like he was doing the horror. That's when you go in the chairs. Yeah, he was basically doing that minus the chair. Like they were just toss him up in the air. He is a member of the tribe, so.

He's great. Great vibes all around. And then my last Tuesday's back of the week is more of just a grape. This is more of just just something I want to get off my chest because it's going to keep coming up. I fucking hate the NBA mid season tournament courts. Yeah. Yeah. Hate them. Hate them. Don't understand why they do it. They all look gross. The suns was one of the most disgusting courts I've ever seen.

The Celeste's court was like cool, design wise, but still I'd rather just the traditional court. So this is just gonna be something that bothers me every time I turn on the NBA and they have these courts. Yeah, it's like I don't mind the fact that they make me miss the wood. You know, like you watch one game and you're like, I really miss just the old fashioned, the floor of Boston Garden. I miss looking at that natural stuff.

Yeah, but it looks like you're watching like a, a, a WAC mid conference, like a mid, like a random college basketball game. It does look beneath the NBA. Wave beneath the NBA. So far them. So well like games in China Just to do like a mental calendar. It's only on Friday nights the next few weeks Yeah, I won't be watching so if it's a Friday night until they go to Vegas You'll be expecting that all right. It's good to know that I can expect it But yeah, it bothers me especially the Suns one Selic's one wasn't terrible like the design was cool in theory like the what what they did with it It's not as good as the regular court the Suns court was just an abomination. It's like yeah when um when other college football programs started to do the

Different colored fields after Boise State when Boise State had it. It's fun. It's like oh, that's the one. That's the blue field Geese diode it every year That was cool and then once Western Washington comes out with like the blood red Eastern Michigan. Yeah. The gray where it looks like you're playing in Pleasantville. It gets to be a little bit much. Yeah. I'd agree. That's it. We all stand together. Axwell and just North of a million. Oh nice. Oh, congrats. You don't have to pay taxes on that either. This is in Africa. South Africa. Anything else to income tax? PFT who's your who's back my who's back of the week is James Harden. Oh James Harden's back He's playing with the clippers the clippers are now o and four with James Harden in the lineup for him And he had a great quote did you see his quote last week? No, they asked him if he was a system player

Because he was talking about his coaching in the past and he said I'm not a a system player. I am the system. Oh hell. Which is a hell of a quote. Great quote. And then they went out and lost a couple games. So he is, I guess he's a system player. Like say, say what you want about James Harden, but the man has been nothing but consistent. Yeah. Throughout the years, that is the fact. He will, he will, his system is get to the foul line, annoy every dad that's watching the game and then just kind of go home As soon as the seasons over did you hear that clip there was a clip is an answer that went viral that just ripped Oh the maves announcer in maves announcer. Yeah, he's like we get off Everyone gave you everything you want and you're too dumb to realize that maybe you're the problem. Yeah, which is very right

and you're too dumb to realize that maybe you're the problem. Yeah, which was very right. Okay, my who's back is something I want us to do is a collective here. It's a Heisman race. We have a pretty big podcast, sports podcast. Maybe we could influence some people. I think as a group, we should get behind Jaden Daniels plus 550.

I agree. At the end of the game on Saturday, I think he was at plus 900. And before that game, he was at like plus 2000. I think we should get behind Jaden Daniels, make that bet and try to bang on that drum. He is the best player in college. He's the best player in college football. It's, uh, it's become a team award. He's the best player in college football.

You don't want to do it. Hank, you're so I need to buy college. For you don't want to do it. Hank. So I need to buy in from everyone because what we have to do is basically prop again to stats of Jaden Daniels to get everyone in the world being like, did you know Jaden Daniels actually better than everyone else? If Marvin Harrison, Jr. if they be Michigan, he's gonna win it. No. Do you just want him to win the Heisman so that when you get him on the Patriots, he can be like, Heismat trophy winner?

No, I think what's gonna end up happening is gonna be the winner of the Bonaix first Michael Penex in the backdrop championship game. It could be, but Jen Daniels is the best player in college football. I agree, that's what I'm saying. We should do it. We saw the Ohio State, we saw that game up close

and personal. Ohio State quarterback is terrible. But why don't we do the... Why don't we do the't we do the yours is putting up these numbers. I'm down I don't we do it. I just as a team as a group as a collective I'm down doing it right now. You don't sound that down Hank I'm down. I'm just I'm just being honest before you know We're talking I know like you said were I want to do it big kid I'm just I'm just kicking myself because I had the bet locked in on Saturday night during the game

Oh, that's and then I didn't do it and then the odds got so much better. Wait, so then we're not gonna do it No, no, I'll do it. I'll still do it. I'll do it my phone's out there. I'll still do it memes max Jake We can influence some people. I'll roof you guys Jake public publics publicize it Jaden Daniels is having an insane insane season tell you what best quarterback in the country big cat I'm gonna we need a stats blog on on on barcel like, yeah, every day case for watching. Yes, put settle on every day. Pack 12 stats are inflated. You can also go that right.

Yep. The point of defense in the pack 12. Yep. He's also, if you look at the past winners of the Heisman trophy, he is the only one who compares to them. Like Ponyx and Michael Penix do not have similar numbers in all the categories. Jane Daniels has them and surpassed them in a lot of. His 38 total touch sounds is Michael Ponyx have who might have to start

bashing Michael Ponyx. Michael Ponyx played in Indiana. Michael Ponyx is a great quarterback. Michael Ponyx also has a room of doings's A. Yes, who's, there we go. Almost on the same level as Marvin Harrison Jr. Look at this, Michael Penix has 30 total touchdowns. J and Daniels has 38. Mm. Mm. Tell you what, I'm gonna ride with you on this.

Michael Penix, I got rushing yards, guess what they are. A lot. Minus 27. Oh, no way. Cause they do the stupid likes yeah, it's college stash Yeah, but you just said it's a team Jane Daniels has 918. That's a lot more reward, but his defense thinks that's not his fault But you say it's a team award. It's not you just said that no, it's become it. It's become a Commits, but so they're gonna give it to a QB whose lost versus a QB that's undefeated or a wide

They played Georgia state text and they could he's got to put up video game stats against Georgia state. I'm ready for it. I like that Hank is still the quarterback wins guy. I love the quarterback. I'm not. I'm just trying to I'm talking about with you using your own logic. You know what the problem is with the quarterback wins debate is somehow Everybody that is anti-judging wins as a stat Now says that Justin Herbert is the best quarterback to ever play the game. Yeah, that's that's there is Something to the quarterback win stat, but it's not everything. It's obviously not even that much of it

But Jane Danels is like the perfect test case of it where he's the best player in college football. His defense is just so bad. Let's get it going. Reddably bad. Yeah. You can't hold, you can't hold a win against Jane Danels. That's what I'm saying.

Let's get it going. Tell you what, I will, I will lock in this bet. I'll make it my biggest bet of the season. And then we just big cat. If I can, if I lock in this bet. I'll make it my biggest bet of the season. And then we just pick that if I can, if I can count on your support and the ongoing letter writing campaign against the NCAA for James Madison. Yeah, I'm gonna need you to explain it to me better

than you explained it to me earlier. And not right now, but in private and I will absolutely help you. Okay. I want 100% of your back. Jake, for the soft. First soft. I would like to correct myself to the NBA and season tournament is Tuesdays and Friday Oh, no, no First week because it was election dice. There are no games

But Tuesdays and Fridays through November it's also such a hassle like think about the fucking poor people at these arenas Like you think they give a fuck about the in season tournament, they have to switch out the hardwood every other day. A lot of them are doing it for hockey anyway, so it doesn't really make a difference. Still, still, not right. Wait, what do you mean? Like most of these arenas are changing over from hardwood to ice no matter what. What about New Orleans? Yeah, the smoothie king.

The good people down at the smoothie king arena. They have to do so matter what. We're about New Orleans. Yeah, the smoothie king. The good people down at the smoothie king arena. They have to do so much better. I think about the people and I would imagine that there is some annoyance of like, we have now three courts factor in that. Agreed. My who's back is Coach Kay. He returned to Cameron Indoor for a big game for Duke

against Arizona. I thought he wasn't going to games and they lost. He looks so unhappy. That's interesting. Can we love transfer to Arizona after eliminating Coach K in his final season and balled out and waved by time. Crazy. Hey, that's the up pissed off he looked. I did. Whole crowd was cheering for him. His wife looking great as ever. Stay next to him trying to amp the people up. Coach K just looked like he'd rather be anywhere else. Huh, is interesting. That's interesting. What the guy live?

Duke is here in Chicago tomorrow. Champions class. Huh, who are they playing? It's Duke, Kansas, Michigan State. And they play Michigan State. It's the four blue bloods. I'm not sure if you're going to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to

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