Pardon My Take - NFL Week 11, Fastest 2 Minutes, Steelers + Bills Statement Wins, Bears Lose In Soul Crushing Fashion, Chargers Eliminate The Bengals + National Sports Podcast Updates

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, week 11 in the NFL. We're going to talk about every game from Sunday. The Steelers win a big one against the Ravens. The Bills win a big one against the Chiefs. The Bears did the Bears thing. The Jets are officially dead. We got a lot to talk about and then we're gonna do we're gonna do fastest two minutes to start. We also got who's back of the week and it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The Emirates NBA Cup is here. You can win big getting in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook. An official sports betting partner the NBA will a LA repeat we'll find out soon they're sure to be rim rattling slams and

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Starting point is 00:02:55 week 11 And let me be the first to wish a congratulations to the Toronto Argonauts in the Grey Cup in the CFL. In the Grey Cup. We start in Pittsburgh where you can throw out the record books when these two teams play. Many people think you can't win a football game without getting in the end zone, but Boswell actually you can as Chris scored 6 times for the Steelers.

Starting point is 00:03:28 LaMarvelous became un-Lamarcable on Sunday as the Steelers defense bottled him up forcing fumbles on Likely and Henry. Likely Henry? That's what Tiffany Gomez said when asked who smashed a hole in her back wall. The Steelers put a strangle hold. hold choke me daddy on the AFC North Steelers 18 Raven 16 bunk

Starting point is 00:03:53 We go to Michigan Get up everybody's going score TD's get down Jamison says hold my D. Gotta lose your coach in Detroit hold my ID, gotta lose your coach in Detroit, Brock City, as the Lions punked the Jags and even Brock Wright got in on the action with a touchdown. Doctor says I need a macchiatomy as Jones couldn't help the broken spine of the Jaguars and I haven't seen anyone miss Lawrence since Darren Aronofsky. Doug Peterson is looking less like Quailman and more like Failman as it's only a matter of time before he's fired now That's funny

Starting point is 00:04:28 Lions 56 the Jaguars Lions 52 the Jaguars 6 down in Miami where it's a John New World order as Smith scored twice and had over a hundred yards receiving Through a tough start to the season Mike McDaniel told fans that if you don't love me now you'll never love me again I can still hear you saying you will never break a chain as Devon slayed the Fleetwood on the Raiders defense all afternoon long. As for the Raiders their season has boiled down to whether or not Brock Tua could keep spitting on that thing. Has their rookie tight end had another career day? Dolphins 34, Raiders the Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Sam Donald Schwarzenegger said, I'm back. Nick Westbrook and Kenny Rogers says, you got to know when to hold them, know when to skull them, know when to walk away, know when to run 99 yards for a score.

Starting point is 00:05:35 Brian's supercalahannelistic Titans are atrocious as Tennessee remains the chimney sweep of the AFC South, but a spoonful of draft picks helps the losing go down. The Vikings 23, the Titans 13. In Chicago where the Bears played the Packers and lost again because the Bears never beat the Packers and life is meaningless and Mike Tyson was right that there's no such thing as legacy because we all die in the end. Also Karl Brooks Burke got wild on the game winning field goal blocking it with his hand. Remember that show I used to jerk off to it but it doesn't matter because we're all going to die one day.

Starting point is 00:06:08 Packers 20 Bears 19. We head to Foxborough with Henry Lockwood on the scene. In New England, Drake Mayflower continued his stellar rookie campaign in the first quarter with a passing touchdown to Kendrick. Born to Kendrick. Born to be wild! Mathieu and Stafford responded with a touchdown of his own to Cooper. Kapow!

Starting point is 00:06:34 Graves' defense forced a fumble on a play that was actually a tuck rule but whatever and got the ball back in the red zone. Pukki Nakua was looking absolutely fire in the end zone so Stafford rewarded him with a touchdown of his own the pass fought back valiantly in the fourth quarter But not even a touchdown from offensive lineman Jeff via Zinva Darien low was enough and the Rams win 28-22 was that lightning McQueen Henry? All right, we had to stick it in the AFC East. Memes.

Starting point is 00:07:07 In MetLife Stadium where Anthony Soprano Richardson finished off the big pussy which is the Jets defense. No spoilers, boom. Metal World Breeze Cosmouse at the metal lens as he scored two touchdowns of his own. Drake and Josh Downshead to the Jets defenders, whoa, just take it easy man, as he scored a touchdown. As far as Aaron Rodgers, it was time to quiddy pay the Piper with the sack and put an end to this game and the Jets season.

Starting point is 00:07:31 Colts 28, Jets 27. They shot him on the boat boom. No spoilers. Did a drink with him first. We finished in Buffalo where the Bills were flaunting their bodies as Skirdish Samuel showed a lot of legs and Khalil Shakira Shakira said these hips don't lie as he went whoop and whoop and hmmm some spread. On the Chiefs defense Xavier We Are Not Worthy had Chiefs fans saying came on Garth after

Starting point is 00:07:59 a first half score. The game was back and forth, back and forth, as Noah Fifty Shades of Grey had Josh Allen feeling like he was back in bondage after a second touchdown. But the Bills finally got their release, shooting a massive Buffalo and a win. No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bills starting, the Chiefs 21! Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Kiah Hoga, such a fine sight to see He's throwing seeds against his old team, revenge against New Orleans The Gumball spoiled it, you gotta boil it. Rizzy clogged them like a pregame toilet.

Starting point is 00:08:55 The Saints go marching 35-14. And that is the fastest two minutes from week 11 in the NFL. And it is brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks, and that's because, for pardon my take, there's only one pickup truck, the Chevy Silverado. Why is that? Silverado's a partner. A partner you can depend on.

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Starting point is 00:10:16 that is about to start. We're going to tape some of this early, but week 11 in the books. I feel like we're officially at the point Where there are some teams that we can just stop paying attention to and that became clear this week Specifically the Jaguars Jaguars is you can stop paying attention to them because they're relevant and the NFL makes perfect sense sometimes However, we might have to start paying attention to the Jaguars again because they're probably gonna have an interim coach Yeah We might have to start paying attention to the Jaguars again because they're probably gonna have an interim coach Yeah, we'll have to see so we'll have to see how the interim head coach if he's fat or fun or passion I want to look at their at their coaching staff right now and predict who it should be It's not gonna be their defensive coordinator. No, you know what? Let Tony Khan do it. Yeah, let's let Tony Khan get on the sideline

Starting point is 00:11:00 Let's wait. Let's wait till we get to the Jaguars Lions. Let's get into the games We'll start with the most important game from Sunday and it was Steelers 18, Ravens 16. Exactly how you expected a Steelers Ravens game to go. We said this on Friday. All they do is play close games. All you got to do is take the underdog and the Steelers win the game with six field goals never getting into the end zone Not the best game from Russell Wilson but I think this was the game that was like damn the Steelers need to be taken very much for real because their defense just bottled up a very very explosive Ravens offense and they now have a two-game lead in the AFC North and

Starting point is 00:11:43 they now have a two-game lead in the AFC North and They are in play for a one seed as well because the Chiefs lost so the Steelers like you you had I I actually think if you went in this game and you took and you said that Russell Wilson was gonna play like that I would say the Steelers had no chance because it was all kind of short underneath He had that one really nice pass to George Pickens But when he was pressured he was sacked a bunch of times through an inner. So one of the worst interceptions in the end zone But the Steelers defense did it? Yeah, the Steelers defense. They take away the long ball They're like we'll give you stuff underneath and really I feel like this game came down to a couple things one was the Derek Henry fumble

Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah on the very first drive. Yep one of the first plays of the game That added up with the missed field goals by Justin Tucker. He might actually be bad who now should either fake an injury and be like, yeah, I've been dealing with this since like week two. I don't know. Just say that you've had a hamstring problem that's gotten worse. Yeah. Or say that you've got like the measles, but I there's something wrong with Justin Tucker and we've been calling him washed. I think ever since it might've been 2017 when he missed that extra point against the saints. Yeah it's how this show goes. We're very rarely right. The only times we're right it usually is because we joke about something and then enough time elapses that it becomes right

Starting point is 00:12:56 because we were the first that Justin Tucker is washed as a joke and now I think he legitimately might be washed. He's 30th in the NFL in terms of accuracy this year in kickers He also lost He's no longer the most accurate kicker of all time. So he's in a battle by percentage points It's basically like tallying votes. Is that who I think I think California still has like a million votes still left to go I know it's Eddie Pinheiro. Oh, really Eddie Piniero is 89.38% and Justin Tucker is 89.32%. If he goes three for three in his next three, he will be back at number one.

Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah, so this is like, you can do this with any player really. You can say that they stink, that they're over the hill, and eventually you will be correct. But the only person who's probably immune to that was Barry Sanders. Well, and Tom Brady. And Tom Brady.

Starting point is 00:13:44 Because Max Kellerman did it like every year and then he looked like a fool every year. That's true. Yes. The was that show Dexter? It was like the Dexter on Showtime principle. It's like you want to move on one season too early, not one season too late or something. Right. Right.

Starting point is 00:13:58 But Justin Tucker's a legitimate problem. He missed back to back field goals. It was the difference in this game. The Steelers kicker, Chris Boswell made all his field goals. Yeah. Are like, that was something that the Ravens always could just rely on. Like, hey, if we get past the 50 yard line, we're going to score points. Justin Tucker, like are they, if you're a Ravens fan, are you legitimately worried now going into the playoffs saying, this could be an issue that rears its ugly head? Yeah. The strength of your team, like the most dominant player, one of the most dominant players ever at their position.

Starting point is 00:14:27 Justin Tucker. I would say like for a while, Justin Tucker was as good at kicking as Tom Brady was at playing quarterback. Yeah. And it's automatic. Hank's nodding his head back and forth. You disagree, Hank? He was good for a few years.

Starting point is 00:14:39 No, I'd say probably like seven years, eight years, Justin Tucker, unquestionably the best kicker in the history of the game. That's a stretch, but that's fine. I think it's probably a harder position to play too. That's yes, that's accurate. I will give you that. We are an international podcast, so I will make sure to see it important points to you. Yes. Um, but yeah, Justin Tucker, there is an actual issue with him. I don't know if, if I was hardball, I would probably just say that he was injured.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Cause you can't deactivate, you can't like, bring in competition to kick against Justin Tucker if he's healthy, right? I mean, he still came in and after he missed those two, what, he hit a 50 yarder later on in the game. So he's still good, he's just not Justin Tucker. The Ravens essentially just have an average kicker now, where it's like,

Starting point is 00:15:25 I hope it goes in if it's deep. That's essentially it. And then the big story though is Lamar can't figure out the Steelers. He's now one in four in his career against the Steelers. He has as many wins against the Steelers as Russell Wilson has against the Ravens in this rivalry. And the one win is against Mason Rudolph. It was Mason Rudolph and Duck. Yeah. It was 2019. Yeah. You got half of Mason Rudolph and then you had Duck Hodges in the second half. Besides that, he hasn't gotten it done. Now I looked this up. I went back to the start of the Harbaugh Tomlin rivalry. So I think that's 2008. Yeah. Matchup between these two teams since 2008. The total points. Steelers are now winning by 10 points

Starting point is 00:16:08 that makes sense over the course of that entire time. That's an average of point three points per game. Yeah, between the two of those guys, every single game every time is just it's within a touchdown. It's usually a two. It's usually a weird score. This was a weird score. Yeah, like, you know, if it's a two and a half point spread, just take the two and a half because it probably will be a one point game. And yeah, it's, it was, it was pretty shocking to see the Ravens defense be bottled. Actually weirdly, both defenses, like I felt like overperformed because I knew the Steelers defense was really good, but I thought, you know, the Ravens

Starting point is 00:16:42 offense is really, really good. Uh. So they would have more success. And then the Ravens secondary has been a problem all year and the Steelers weren't able to to like, gash them really. Yeah. So it's just, it's just both these teams, they get together and they just play old school football every time on both sides. It was like neither team wanted to make a mistake. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:02 And so they were just taking what the defense was giving them. And the Steel the Steelers, yeah, the difference was the kicker in this game. Yeah. And a great kicker and a, and a wash kicker. And, uh, and what's his name? The other Wilson, uh, for the Steelers that, that interception he had was just man football when he just took it away. He literally took it away and that was, that was a huge pivotal play. And yeah, I, I think both these teams are very good, but I like the Steelers, I think for the majority of this season, we've been playing this game

Starting point is 00:17:29 in our head where like the Steelers are good, but how good? Why aren't they in the category with everyone else when it comes to their defense? They are there. Their defense has always been good. Yeah, like this modern era of the Steelers, they've always had a dominant defense, but then they've had to like go out there and win games on their own sometimes. I would be concerned a little bit about Russell Wilson because it's, I mean, he, he was great in the fourth quarter against the commanders, but he wasn't great like the first three quarters. And then this game, are we getting back to like Russell Wilson just throwing check downs

Starting point is 00:17:59 and being a little, you know, when he's under pressure, he doesn't have the mobility that he once had. I'm going to chalk it up to just going against the Ravens. Okay. Just the Ravens didn't want to give up anything big. That, that interception that Arthur Smith's face during that interception was perfect. I mean, everyone was like, what are you doing? Russ Wilson had the largest target, maybe in the NFL.

Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah. The largest pass catching target. And he just air mailed it by about, well, it really wasn't that high of a throw. I would like to see Washington try to jump up in the air agreed He should have played defense on it, but it was more time and place. It's a 15-10 game Yeah, if you get a field goal, you're up eight and you just like the one thing you can't do is throw an interception And then we also had Unfortunately for Justin Fields his it didn't it will fortunately it didn't matter but his one big play

Starting point is 00:18:46 Was actually a really smart well-designed, uh cubie run by arthur smith to try to win the game late and get that first down And he slid like a full yard and a half short and then he gave like the first down signal Because he didn't know where the sticks were that was bad and then they zoomed in on his face for about 15 seconds on this I feel like that's most of the camera time that Justin Fields gets is right after a boneheaded mistake where they just show him staring off into the distance. Like he's in Vietnam and zooms in on him and he just looks upset. We also had, we get this every week. George Pickens temporarily goes insane during a game. They were actually,

Starting point is 00:19:21 I got two of them. I got two of them this week. So this is why we've said George Pickens is a must-watch player Yes There needs to be an all 22 of just George but in all one of just George Pickens every single play The first one was early in the first quarter. He caught a pass. It was first and ten Goes out of bounds after two yards and then makes the first down sign in the defensive backs face There was that and then at one point he caught a pass and then he just started walking off the field like like when Forrest Gump just ran through the

Starting point is 00:19:52 end zone into the tunnel he was just walking down the field to nowhere yep and Tomlin had to pull him off the field and explain to him hey the game's still going on yeah he's not have done walking it's not half time yet yeah but I just I love watching this guy yeah I can't get enough of it's so much Yeah, he's just kept on walking. It's not halftime yet, but I just I love watching this guy. Yeah, I can't get enough of it. It's so much fun. Yeah, he's the absolute best. Okay, so yeah, the Steelers are sorry, the Ravens chances to win the north went down to 37% with this loss. And the Steelers still do have a tough schedule. But Browns. Yeah, yeah, the ultimate Tomlin trap game if the

Starting point is 00:20:28 Let's play whose lines anyway, if it's been released on DraftKings The Browns are the bet on Thursday night. Yes, the Steelers are coming off I mean, it's just Mike Tomlin is a dog all day every day and then they're gonna go to Cleveland Whose lines is anyway, so I DraftKings I think dealers minus three and a half. It's at Cleveland at Cleveland It is Steelers minus three and a half. It's at Cleveland at Cleveland. It is Steelers minus five and a whoa Browns yeah, love it. Give me the Browns all day Browns There's no reason for it, but I'm Jamis primetime Steelers looking ahead. Yeah, I'm good about themselves Road favorite yeah almost a touchdown. Yep. Yeah, that's gonna be drunk as fuck. Yeah, that's brown This is a Muni lot legacy game. You like that Hank? That's browns and the under and the under I asked you North divisional games

Starting point is 00:21:13 These two these teams know how to play well except for Ravens Bengals Yeah, literally like a hundred and fifty points between the two of them both games. Mm-ar Chase, I think Jamar Chase by himself hit every over. True, but end of the season. End of the season and not Ravens Bengals. Well, no, now we're in those games. Those are in the early in the season, got it. It was last week. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:40 This is the end of the season. This was week one. This is week one of the AFC North unders. Yes. I like that. That's smart. Hey, guys. As a man with champs, as a man with championship pedigree, can you tell me when good teams should say that they start paying attention to football? I mean, you're always paying attention, but you're not really it's it's it's the playoffs. This is this is the time would you say December even? Yeah, late November December. Okay, Thanksgiving I big cat made a comment and I'll probably get to it last week that kind of stuck with me when it was like

Starting point is 00:22:12 It's not even no it's not even Thanksgiving. Yeah, and the seasons over. Yeah, and it's the opposite for good teams Yeah, thanks giving is when it's really time to lock in and the season starts But they also did make Thanksgiving extra late this year It's the latest it can possibly be is on Thursday this year. It's on a Thursday this year But it's it's the latest it can possibly be so Yeah, it kind of fucks everything up. Yeah. Yeah, it should yeah It should have been it should be like in four days instead. It's in whatever ten days I also have a real problem with the schedule makers because we've got six buys next week

Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, then we have no buys. Well, they have no buys because Thanksgiving you gotta play on Thanksgiving Yeah, and then after Thanksgiving we go back to six buys again. Yeah, don't like it I actually do like the six buys just because it's less games to like I want to be able to you get through all the buys and you get to the other side and it's like you have buys Because there's just a bunch of teams that are so bad. You don't have to pay attention to they should be able to do flex scheduling But with buys they should be able to just teams should be able to say we're done opt out Yeah, we're done for the year Like there are definitely teams where if they said hey, we're done for the year. You're gonna pay all the players

Starting point is 00:23:19 That's fine, but we're done for the year. You'd be fine. Be fine by me Okay, next game. The reason the Sickos and Perverts are tuning in. Packers 20, Bears 19. I got fully baited. I got fully drawn back in. Thought the Bears were gonna win this game. Really thought the Bears were gonna win this game.

Starting point is 00:23:39 Matt LaFleur goes to 11 and 0 against the Chicago Bears. We haven't beaten them since 2018. I got completely baited. So I went back a little bit further than that. Oh, it's like 52 and 14 or something. I went to in the far of Rogers love. Yeah, since 92.

Starting point is 00:23:57 In the far of Rogers love Willis love era. The Packers are 51 and 15. Flynn. Flynn. 51 and 15. You forgot that Flynn. Is the actual record. Yeah 50 yeah I mean it's we can't beat them and this is a game we should have beaten them and we played better than them and it doesn't matter. Can I. Because we have a stupid fucking head coach. There was a guy who wanted me to apologize to Matt Eberfluss halfway through this game. Matt Eberfluss is now 14 and 30 as a head coach he's 5 and 17 in one score games. He's 5 and 17 in one score games

Starting point is 00:24:25 He's 5 and 17 in one score games And I want a little credit Shane Waldron being the worst coach of all time that actually turned out to be true Yeah, the offense looked pretty good today. It looked significantly better. They basically were like Caleb get the ball out fast We're gonna try to run the ball. They called even amount of runs and passes Caleb got the ball out of his hands in 2.3 seconds average. Uh, he was decisive. He on third and fourth downs, he was 10 for 12 for 112 yards passing and 40 yards. Yeah. 40 yards rushing. You got 10 first downs, uh, on those plays.

Starting point is 00:24:58 Like even the end of the game, third and 19, like the bears played well offensively all game. Then you get to the, the last two the last two minutes it's like all right he's got to go on a drive and they were they reverted back to the Bears of the last three weeks sack sack and then Kale gets him out of it he's now in the last four weeks he's gone on two game-winning drives that Matt Ibrafuels has fucked up yeah I think if you're if you're a Bears fan don't let the fact that you had a game-winning field goal distract you from the fact that Caleb should have been sacked on that play that he got out of and converted a miracle first down.

Starting point is 00:25:33 It's just the fact that it's the Packers. That's the part that really kills because it's, it's, I'm, I'm not stupid to, to think that this team is a playoff team. And in reality, I don't even like Maddy, who's such a And in reality, I don't even like, Matty Berflou is such a bad head coach, I don't wanna keep this going for much longer. But the Packers, like you can't, we can't beat the Packers. They have Voodoo Magic or Matt LaFour's 11 and 0, you have Kale Williams, get him to field goal range.

Starting point is 00:26:00 And then all the quotes afterwards, just out coached again, Masaccia who we like said in the team meetings on Saturday night he said that he would be shocked he wouldn't understand if they came out of the game today without a blocked field goal or extra point and the Packers also said that in the last seconds of the game several players this is from Kaylin Kailer she said just talked to several players in the last seconds of the game, several players, this is from Kaylin Kailer. She said, just talked to several players in the Packers field goal block unit and all of them said they noticed that Cairo Santos kicked with a low trajectory when doing film

Starting point is 00:26:33 study and they expected the Bears to run another play, which in their opinion would have made it more difficult to block. Well, yeah, if they'd run it, that's, that's the question is why did the Bears just agree to a 46 yard field goal? Because we have a coach that's five and 17 and one score games. And he also, he's, he's coaching like a guy who has like a 10 year contract. Yeah. He's coaching like he shouldn't push the buttons to be like, Hey, you're a four and five team now four and six that is spiraling out of control.

Starting point is 00:26:59 You finally have a solid effort from offense. And you know, the defense got gashed on some big plays. We can get to that. But you're you finally are in a spot to win a game. And not only do you not run an extra play when you have a timeout in your back pocket to try to get closer but in the drive before that it's it's fourth and three on the 50 yard line. Try to win the game right there. Like try to win the game right there. Yeah. I don't know. There's four minutes line. Try to win the game right there. Like try to win the game right there. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:27:27 There's four minutes left. Just go win the game. Yeah. You're right about him coaching. Like he has jobs. He needs to coach scared. He's not scared. No, he, he, he, he, he coaches like extra scared though.

Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah, but no, he needs to, he needs to have not going forward on fourth and three. Right. He's the opposite of Dan Campbell. He's the exact opposite of Dan Campbell.'s like he's nad it's so fucking frustrating and at this point so the part that really hurts is the Packers because we can't beat the Packers and we finally were gonna beat the Packers and then of course we get a field goal blocked by the way I thought you couldn't touch the center when he had his head down so I was gonna give you some copium cuz I I've got the screenshots and I looked at him't touch the center when he had his head down. So I was going to give you some copium.

Starting point is 00:28:05 Because I've got the screenshots and I looked at him. Oh yeah. The people who are complaining about a no call on that, you're actually right. They bowled over the long snapper on that last one. Yeah, I'm not going to complain because it's like, the bears are the bears and this is just, it was just bound to happen. I can't believe I fell for it. I can't believe I thought we were actually going to hit that field goal. Uh, but at this point in the season, like if we'd won this game

Starting point is 00:28:28 five and five, oh shit, we might be back in it. Like I'd start thinking at this point, it's like it makes it pretty cut and dry. Just salvage Caleb's rookie season more days like today and make sure that you lose enough games that Matt Eberfuss has gone. Yeah. So this, that's it. This might've been the perfect result then, but it's still the Packers. That's the part that hurts. If it was anyone else, I would've been like, I could've, I could've, if it was the Vikings, if it was any other team, I could've twisted myself and been like, you know what? That was actually a good loss. The fact that it was the Packers and Packers fans are going to go away being like, Oh, we're so much better than than the Bears and yeah, I know they are but like they're true in love

Starting point is 00:29:09 It's throwing interception every fucking game. I got a question for you though when it comes to the low kick trajectory thing Yeah, that's not really a coaching point Kyro Santos has to kick with a low trajectory Cuz he doesn't he's got a very accurate like he's a good kicker correct but he doesn't have the biggest leg in the world like he has a 2009 leg where 56 yards and then you can probably count on him to get it there But he's not gonna set any records So to kick it that distance you have to have lower trajectory trajectory than most other kickers do but that's why you go get more yards

Starting point is 00:29:41 That's why you get that's a whole that was what the Packers were saying. They were surprised. They didn't run another play Yeah, that's why you go get more yards. That's why you get that. So that was what the Packers were saying They were surprised they didn't run another play. Yeah, that's the coaching part Yeah, that's the coaching part where he had a timeout and the Packers are like they're gonna run another play because they know what? We know that he has a low trajectory and there's but no he's It's just it's so frustrating because it's the Packers That's the part that kills me because I fucking hate the Packers and all they do is beat the fuck out of us time and time again. And it was going to be so big that like Cale Williams beat the Packers first start against the Packers and everything was going to be good for a week until we played the Vikings and then the Lions on Thanksgiving. But I was going to have one week where everything was good. And I I thought about it and I believed it and I thought it was

Starting point is 00:30:23 going to happen and then it just didn't happen. And we're back to there. It's frustrating. You would have had such a good night's sleep. I would have had such a good night's sleep. Post-win sleep is so good. DJ Moore's back. Shane Waldron caused all his problems too. He looks great. Four receivers over 40 yards.

Starting point is 00:30:39 The great part about what they did with DJ Moore was they got him the ball early. So they're like, we're not going to let this guy have time to get upset at the quarterback. Shane Waldron was the worst coach of all time. You can't tell me differently. And that is also on the that's on the head of Matt Eberfluss. That's on the head of Ryan Poles. The fact that Shane Waldron was hired is just an abomination. Like I, the Bears looked so dead the last three games and to have an offense that was actually functional this week just as such an indictment on Shane Waldron being the offensive coordinator for a rookie quarterback Yeah, they look great. The offense looked really really good this week. They still didn't get I mean

Starting point is 00:31:12 We I wish we had scored a couple touchdowns and then of course J. Jordan love He just no matter what like two or three times a game He's just gonna throw a deep bomb to Christian Watson It's gonna work and I knew it was gonna work and I knew in like there's nothing you can do about it Yeah, I hate that it's like when Josh rolls out to the sidelines and he's going to his right You know that he's about to do something crazy and unspeakable to a defense That's what it's like when Jordan love starts backpedaling. Yeah, like here it comes Goddamnit just fucking well when we win that game is it week 17? I don't even know

Starting point is 00:31:47 I think it's week 18 that we game again So last game of the season and it's just a fact that like the two now I'm gonna play the game where it's like if Matt Eberfluss plays sideline defense against commanders on the play before the Hail Mary and if he runs another Play or two in this game The Bears could be sitting at six and four and I'd be thinking yofs in the hunt. I'd be thinking, Holy shit, everything looks different. And it'd be like, Oh, Caleb Williams gone on two game winning drives. And yeah, it's been bad at times.

Starting point is 00:32:14 I'm not I've never said I was giving up on Caleb Williams. I still think that the whoever they hire as the next coach will be very, very important, but this was a good day for him and I, it was good to bounce it back. He addressed the whole team and apologize to them for his part in getting Shane Waldron fired. He should have actually been like, you guys should thank me. Yeah. Because Shane Walden never should have had a job. Um, I've got the schedule right here. You do have the Packers week 18 last game of the season. I know the schedule. You could play spoiler. Yeah. And that would be a great win.

Starting point is 00:32:47 I would go into Lambeau. And then the next day if they don't fire Eberfluss the day after that, then that would be literally your January 6. Yeah. So yeah, no, we would we'd have to we'd have no other choice. A little dust up as Jack Dorio said. Hey, do you have any questions that are gonna put me in a bind and and and You know make me talk out of both sides of my mouth. You're really good at that

Starting point is 00:33:14 What no usually ask a question then I give an answer and then the people like well you said this and now you're saying This and I get you know, I'm gonna I'm an emotional wreck I just I mean the and then the Badgers on Saturday night that was devastating Don't smile at me like that max. I would just like to point out you went like this. I would just like to point out that on that was a tough loss. I was rooting for the Badgers on Friday on Friday show. It was brought up that if the Bears look good against the Packers, you might be like Bears are all the way back during the game. Did you think that the Bears were back? I said Bears might I think I tweeted exactly Bears might be back situation remains fluid Okay, they had to win the game Caleb looks confident. It was a positive day for I understand but it's the Packers who care if it was

Starting point is 00:33:55 I do what do you mean? It was the max. I agree with you. Everything you're saying is correct But it's the Packers. We can't beat the Packers. Matt LaFleur has literally never lost to the Bears. It's insane. It's like the, the beating just won't stop. It just happens every year like clockwork. So it was any other team. If this was a game against fucking the 49ers, I would have been like, you know what? Rookie quarterback. We're still working on things next year's the year, that was great performance by Cale Williams, but it's the Packers. And we had the game, we had it.

Starting point is 00:34:30 That field goal was never going in. It was never going in. If he didn't block it, if they didn't make it, if they didn't assault the long snapper, it might be a good thing it got blocked. There's worse ways to lose a game on a field goal. He easily could have just missed it. It was going in, thing it got blocked. There's worse ways to lose a game on it easily could have just missed it It was going in it was going in

Starting point is 00:34:48 It was going in you don't miss Caleb Williams looks really good This is this is a good day for Bears fans has to be a good day for Bears. We lost the pass crazy That's not that you would if you if the roles were a version It was the Cowboys for you, and you were going through the same thing also Matt Eberfluss, fuck you dude. He said tough times don't last tough people do. First of all, you're not going to last buddy. He has second of all tough times do last. What was the stat? It was going back in 15. It was going back to 1992. The start of Brett far of 51 15. That's literally

Starting point is 00:35:21 tough times lasting tough times. Literally do not stop. It's just tough times. I just saw the replay of the attempted field goal That was gonna go in yeah, it was I was gonna go in we've beaten the Packers like like three times in the last ten years All right, so can I just confess that while watching the game? I wanted the Bears to win I wanted that field goal to go in I want to get to be happy however During the setup. I thought how fucking funny this be if a double-doin that would have been funny there's worse ways to lose I mean yeah it would have been funny for a lot of people yeah I'm sobering for the roller coaster so I was really really hoping that that I was

Starting point is 00:35:58 gonna be all the way back in yeah also that that was the worst over game to have in the history of over games you need to see points and they stopped at the coal line twice two-point conversion missed twice and the block field goal It was the worst over. Yeah defense played well in that goal line saying they just couldn't stop the long, you know passes It was just Jordan love would just rip a 60 yard. Alright, so Hank You got any last questions that will to it twist me up and will end up being in the roller coaster reel at the end Of the year. No, I felt bad I was I was looking at the game looking at the record and I was like if the Bears win this game the records are gonna be you

Starting point is 00:36:29 know one game apart they could be better than the Packers you know not the last team in the NFC North. Yeah but I'll say this Max you're you're wrong on the take that it was a good day for the Bears it was not because we lost the Packers. The one positive out of this is the rest of the season is as clear as it could Possibly be just have Caleb Williams be good and not regress And not look like last three weeks Caleb Williams look like this Sunday Caleb Williams and get Matt Eberfluss fired. That's it That's it. Those are the only two object objectives at the end at the rest of the season. That's it There's nothing else that matters

Starting point is 00:37:06 He looked good though. Okay winning and losing which is a good thing does not matter because we know Maddie reflux They've given the chance to win. He will choose the loss every time Max is confusing seeing good signs with having a good day And it also is against the Packers He's just completely like he's pretending like he doesn't become a nervous wreck when he plays the Cowboys. Yeah, I Completely like he's pretending like he doesn't become a nervous wreck when he plays the Cowboys. Yeah, I Get it. I get it But the Bears are never doing anything this year and Caleb Williams looked good and you don't have to freak out They win that game in there. No, I I'm looking the schedule is no it's the gauntlet of all Cueless. Yeah, no, it's that's why the last three weeks

Starting point is 00:37:40 I've been as emotional as I have been because the schedule was going to be a disaster. All right. Another positive. We're on Thanksgiving. That's going to be, we're going to get fucking smoked on Thanksgiving. Holy shit. Imagine if you don't. Imagine if you don't. That would be fun.

Starting point is 00:37:56 That would be fun. I'll, I'll agree with you guys. That'd be fun. Yeah. Another positive thing. The offensive line looked good. Yeah, because they actually ran the ball and they actually got the ball out fast It turns out if you don't make kale Williams go through five progressions and also you tell kale Williams

Starting point is 00:38:11 Hey, just fucking throw it underneath if a guy's open. Yeah things can work. Who is that? You play to your strengths? Who's your tackle that laid that block? Jones. Yeah, it's a road. Yeah. Yeah, where has that been? Alignment have to be so pissed off at Shane Walden Yeah, because they're they're not being asked to block for a million seconds anymore We're like the sprout trees don't make sense and no one's open like it was very clear that they were like Caleb Throw the ball when a guy's open and just get the ball out of your hands And when you do that your offensive line can look good. And also if you don't see anybody open just run

Starting point is 00:38:45 The Packers fucking stink I'm they stink okay they're not winning shit this year they aren't you guys agree don't think they're gonna win the Super Bowl they're not winning shit Jordan love just throws you probably said the same thing about that what like last year at this time they ain't winning shit they stink Josh Jacobs pretty good Jordan loves not fully healthy. He's fucking healthy. He's healthy throws if he's throwing a pick. He's healthy. That's Jordan love They have a kicker now throws picks. That's what he does Okay, Rams 28 Patriots 22 Henry

Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah, Drake may look good. Drake may look good. Uh, bad interception at the end. Last play of the game. That might've been on the receiver too. Yeah. It was a weird ride. It looked like he was wide open. Miscommunication. Um, kind of what I thought might happen where Stafford picked apart the defense. Uh, that kind of did whatever they wanted through for four touchdowns, Drake may look good. Exciting loss. Exciting loss. Exciting loss. You're excited, look at you.

Starting point is 00:39:51 It was a fun game to watch, and again, going into the season, I wasn't expecting to go into the Sundays expecting to win. I'm not super disappointed that they lost, but Drake may look good. It was a fun game to watch. He had a bad fumble. He did. Well, that fumble he did that he was you know his hands moving forward he's kind of like a tuck rule situation small hand you basically watch my game except

Starting point is 00:40:13 there you weren't playing a rival yeah who beats your brains and we also weren't going into the you know season being like Drake may as you know the best okay all right and this is gonna be a huge year yaw s etc right? But yeah, you don't want to play him at all this year. No that was a mistake. I don't know I don't know We're just doing like takes from August we can we could go take for take Band for band yeah, we go pan for band. I got I don't want to look in the past though. Yeah, no neither Yeah, Drake mate. He was like under a lot of pressure and he looked good He had a couple like, you know blitz coming at him guys running out in full speed

Starting point is 00:40:51 Still throwing it making completions driving the ball down the field Another like five drops from receivers. Yeah, every time I see booty he's dropping a ball. Yeah, no, there's a there's Past needs some help on the receiving side. They do. Is that the draft or free agency? Probably the draft. I would be scared if I were you about the Patriots drafting receivers. I feel like it never works out, but we never draft receivers. Like, we're going to, in theory, have a chance at like the best receiver. Yeah. But you guys have tried to draft good receivers before, right? And yeah,

Starting point is 00:41:24 they just end up not being good on your, you should, we don't draft. We've never had a chance of drafting like the best receiver in the draft. Are you saying the best receiver or the best cornerback? Maybe both. Oh, Travis Hunter. Oh, good, good point. But, or, or this guy from Arizona. Yeah. Yeah. But Travis Hunter would be the best of both. Yeah. So the Rams, um, they needed this win bad. And they also, they started slow again. Like they, they are being outscored by 50 points in the first quarter this year, which is leads the NFL.

Starting point is 00:41:55 I still don't really know what to make of the NFC West other than the only team I trust is the Arizona Cardinals. Maybe, maybe trust the Cardinals. I don't know. I feel like the, at their best, the Rams are better than the Cardinals. Maybe. Maybe trust the Cardinals. I don't know. I feel like the way not at their best. The Rams are better than the Cardinals, I think. But at their best, the Niners are better than Cardinals. But neither team is ever at their best. The Cardinals killed the rain. I know. Like obliterate. I know. But I don't know. I don't think that I trust the Cardinals either.

Starting point is 00:42:21 I think I trust them more than than the Rams at this point and maybe the 49ers I might just be all in on the Cardinals. I think I just love Cooper Cup and Pukka Nakua. Yeah, no, they're awesome I mean Cooper Cup that was his beard. There was no one around him. No, that was like the easiest touch Yeah, right down the dick and that and Matthew Stafford like whenever he He even though they started slow. He'll just rip a couple passes in a game where you're like, holy fuck No one else can make that pass. Yeah, like the Pooka Nakua touchdown was insane We're gonna say is the Rams pinky team or Falcons pinky the Rams are the Rams are the pinky team. You're so yeah I mean, I I think the Cardinals are the best team in the West right now. I mean right now I

Starting point is 00:43:01 Don't know. I just saw like the Rams I expected the Rams to win this game. I they just started really slow again. I was like what's going on? And they also didn't really have that. Like they let the Patriots kind of hang around as well. Maybe the Patriots are just better than I think. I think the Patriots are good. Like I think they've turned the corner. Yeah, they're they're they're now in like a frisky spoiler role. The post mutiny Drake May era Is feels different? Yeah, it does feel different. Mm-hmm. It feels real different guys are excited He's giving speeches big speeches. Everyone's fired up. We'll see how his speeches this week Yeah, I mean that fumble that fumble was basically an instant touchdown. They lost by six points like

Starting point is 00:43:41 You know a couple mistakes here a couple mistakes there that could have won that game I did look up his hand size because I was like is a is this a cold weather November December type fumble I forgot he only has nine and an eighth inch hands. Oh, no, that's why the ball looks so heavy Who told us that somebody said oh, yeah, there was a heavy ball being for better analysis. Yeah City drafted him, but yeah, hey, yeah You were Matt no false. I think you want to trade back and get like Jill Walt I Wanted Jayden Daniels, but yeah, that would have been a good pick

Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah, Hank. You're so are you are you now? Are you taking or spoiling? I very important spot. I'm I'm exactly in this gonna be in this spot every Sunday where I don't want to root for the Patriots to lose. I'm not going to say let's tank because who knows with the draft. I don't have experience in the draft game. It's not a sure thing. I will be rooting for the Patriots to win games as I was today. If they lose I will instantly be like that's good. Good draft draft position welcome to our Side of the table. I don't want to tank. Yeah, I will every I would I would prefer to spoil it's between the white lines

Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah, it's every every week you're tanking you're like I don't care if we win this game then the game starts you're like I want to win this game Then you lose and the game ends you're like that was good Yeah And then after you if you happen to win a game on Sunday You feel good about it for like 30 minutes and then you're like Then you go to Tankathon. Yeah, it's post win clarity. Yeah I'm basically back in that spot. Yeah, let's spoil. Let's start spoiling I mean this you got two opportunities to spoil something for the bills. Oh

Starting point is 00:45:21 That would be oh man. Now I'm good. I'm thinking about how I can get my revenge What if the Bears and the Patriots end up with the same record? But because they beat us we get a higher pick and that guy becomes a Hall of Famer. That'd be nice That's some serious coat. That would be nice learn how to cope buddy. Yeah. Yeah I got a lot more that where it came from just twisting my brain around Trying to find wins where there's losses Because there's nothing but losses. I don't see it as a competition. I want all our all our guys to do well No, you don't that's a fucking lie. It is that's such a lie

Starting point is 00:45:56 What you want the Eagles to do well no our ours and our guys are quarterbacks. Oh, okay? You don't want the Eagles. No, I don't hurt you. Well, no, you don't want the Jets do well So by are you mean? You want the NFC brothers Yeah, just our guys our guys our guys. Yeah our three guys you all took the wrong guy, but we'll get to that late What? Oh, no Nicks Yeah, that's our leave. We are I am a bully. Yeah, you're you're not wrong Bo lever bone X's He's incredible. Hey, I do have a question for you. Did you find out who the keeper of the light? No, I'm so I'm

Starting point is 00:46:31 How have you not been able to get this fat? There's something screwing on one person Yeah, because they haven't publicized this information. They did no press about it. It's not on the website I think either they didn't have a keeper of the light or they're embarrassed about who the keeper of light was I'm still on it. I'll get it by that of the show maybe it is funny when you go to the Gillette Stadium website and you could look at the pictures there's one of Hank took a screenshot of it yeah oh man we need to find this sake I'm on it okay all right next game Saints 35 Browns 14 Taysom Hill is back and Darren Rizzi

Starting point is 00:47:09 He's got the Rizzi juice. Yeah guys to know first head coach or only other head coach to go to know For the Saints to start their careers Sean Payton. I still can't believe I mean, there's a lot of Darren Rizzi left but Darren Rizzi did Interview for the job that Dennis Allen ended up getting, the 8-in-28 man Dennis Allen. But yeah, the Rizzi juice, he has celebrations and handshakes with all his players. The guy just has him pumped up. Yeah, they play hard and Taysom Hill had a stat line that has never been done before

Starting point is 00:47:43 in the NFL today. It was just, they built the entire team out of Taysom and they say, okay, you go ahead and you do your weird thing where you just run people over, you catch passes, you return kicks, you throw interceptions. What do you have? Three touchdowns? He had seven rushes, 138 yards, three touchdowns, eight catches for 50 yards and he threw an interception.

Starting point is 00:48:02 He did the Jimmy V, like you got to laugh, you got to cry. You got to, you know, do something for someone or whatever. Yeah. You got to do it all. And now that will be a full day. Taysom Hill was everything in this game. And the Browns defense was, I don't know what happened, but they were the arm tackle Kings today. They just tried to just swipe it taste some hill who's an absolute look load and They look so bad and Jamis didn't even play bad like he I mean he didn't obviously didn't win and they could have scored more Points, but like he didn't have any terrible Jamis interceptions. He's so much fun to watch because every snap for Jamis is either a deep ball or It's like a it's like a fire alarm drill inside the pocket

Starting point is 00:48:48 where he's just like running around and doing this, the high knees and everything. His touchdown pass that he had early in the game to the back corner of the end zone was an awesome throw. Then he had another two, I think it was Jerry Judy, where Jerry Judy did most of the work, but it's cool to see the Browns functioning as like, you know, a reasonable offense in the NFL. Yeah, I'm not gonna say that they're a good offense right now, but they do look qualified to be playing football on Sundays. He threw 395 and two touchdowns.

Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, it's just the Browns defense was atrocious today. Yeah, Taysom Hill. I don't know what it almost looked like they were. It looked like at points like taste some hill You know when we always see those uh, we'll see like a random clip from like a pop warner game where there's one One eight-year-old who's somehow six to like 220 and everyone's just bouncing off them That's what the browns look like against taste some hill. Yeah, you have to bring at least three guys to bring him down Yeah, when he gets ahead of steam, he might even just run through three guys. Yeah, it was crazy.

Starting point is 00:49:47 I would like to see Taysom Hill get an entire season starting at quarterback. Do you remember that one game when Troy Aitken was just like, he's way better than Drew Brees? Yeah, he kind of was at that point in Drew Brees career. They called him a poor man's Lamar Jackson at one point too. Yeah, he's a yeah, I mean, his throwing is not great, but he can run the rock Yeah, I can't wait to see what the Pope tweets about this game. Have you been following that? He's been doing the hashtag say hashtag Saints. Yeah all the time. Also the Browns Dustin Hopkins is terrible Yeah, so our kickers shittier than they've ever been in the NFL. It's yeah, it seems like it They've gone that way also there one through seven seven, we were like, the kickers are too

Starting point is 00:50:26 good. Now kickers just suck. Yeah, Darren Rizzi also might just have great field goal defense because it happened last week with young Hoku. Yep, something about Rizzi, Rizzi magic. He's got to miss in everything. But Dustin Hopkins missed two field goals, but really three, because there was a penalty. And he missed like a 27 yarder. Yeah chip shot. Terrible. Well you say the goalpost wider. I got the keepers of the light. Oh you do. It was families of the tragedy assistance program for survivors. Salute to service.

Starting point is 00:50:57 Okay. Oh cool. Great salute to service salute. Maybe put out a tweet with them. Maybe publicize a little bit. Yeah. Is there was he gonna get this head coaching job? I don't think so What if he fucks around and does I mean that'd be great But I almost would prefer to have a black magic guy like Darren Rizzi In your back pocket as an interim head coach in case you need him, but here's the question. So The Saints are in cap. Hell. The Saints roster is a mess The Saints are in Cap Hell. The Saints roster is a mess. What guy? I know everyone, like, there's only 32 jobs, so there will always be someone who wants the job.

Starting point is 00:51:31 But, it's not going to be the top job that people are looking for. Could it just be Darren Rizzi? If you're looking for a guy to manage your way through Cap Hell, and to win some games that you probably shouldn't win, but also cap out at like six wins a season. Get the boys to fight hard for you. Then he would be your guy. Right. You could do worse. You could do Dennis Allen. Yeah. Bring him back. Dennis Allen. They literally were like, Oh, you, Oh, you've, you've coached before you were eight and 28. Do you? Yeah, let's do it? Do you think Dennis Allen is still rooting for the Saints?

Starting point is 00:52:06 Uh, no, I don't think I I don't even think Dennis Allen's watching football. He's probably he probably watches football like My five-year-old watches football. He's just watching and being like what does that mean? What is the first down? He might hate football too because he associates it with so many bad memories of losing games. Yeah He might hate football too. Cause he associates it with so many bad memories of losing games. Yeah. He's like, oh, that's a game I would lose.

Starting point is 00:52:27 Did you only, he can, you know how like, they're like, representation matters. You need to, you know, you need to see yourself on the screen in movies and stuff. Dennis Allen, every game, no matter what the game, he just sees himself as a losing head coach. Yeah. Even when it's the Saints, he's like, oh man.

Starting point is 00:52:43 I feel bad for that guy. I feel bad for Kevin Stefanski right now Yeah, that would be me right now. That sucks. I got no Dennis you were coaching the Saints the team that won that game He's like, yeah, but it still would have been me I gotta know if if the resonator clogged a toilet before the game. Yeah, you should just say that he did Yeah, what does it matter? Although then dudey someone would investigate and be like he actually didn't and that would be a big to do That would be a to do. Yeah, but he does look like a man that could clog a toilet with his piss

Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah, he's did you see his celebration with one of the guys? Yeah, he's the best. Yeah, he's great He's I thought the interim juice I was wrong about this game I thought the Browns were gonna win this game because I thought it was just gonna you know be gone after game But I think I think Rizzi might have enough juice to have it, like they might finish, I wouldn't be shocked if he wins a few more games down the stretch. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna root for the Saints fans because they're one of the coolest fan bases in the NFL.

Starting point is 00:53:36 And they also have to deal with Brian Kelly right now? Yeah, so ultimately I think where I'm at is where Hank is at with the Patriots. Monday through Friday, I want the Saints to lose. And then on Sunday when I'm watching them, I want them to win Yeah. Yeah for their own goodness. That feels good. That feels good. Um, okay You want to do a couple ads and then we'll get to another game that the sickos and perverts want to hear about Memes, let's do a couple ads and we'll get to that one Before we get to the rest of the games that are brought to you by game time.

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Starting point is 00:55:40 season long ubereats official on-demand food delivery partner of the NFL order now for game day terms and taxes and fees apply see the app for details Okay Colts 28 jets 27 Shout out Anthony Richardson. He played well today. The Jets made him look good. He he maybe the time on the bench helped I also feel like Shane Steichen did a lot better of job of like playing to his strengths A lot more designed runs. Yep. He threw the ball. Well still a couple inaccurate passes, but doesn't matter He like two big drives in the fourth quarter

Starting point is 00:56:16 Two rushing touchdowns. Yeah, like this was a good day for Anthony Richardson. I have a Radical suggestion for the Colts. Yeah. You know, we talked about going to QB system. Yeah. Why not just have Joe Flacco be your quarterback until you get to the red zone and then put Anthony Richardson in. But he was throwing, he was throwing deep balls today. He does. He does air it out. It was nine for 12, 185 yards on, on passes 10, 10 plus yards. Yeah. He looked good against the Vauntedunted jets defense. I listen, I'm not going to, I'm not going to take anything away from Anthony Richardson. He's had a tough, tough go of it this year. Uh, especially with the last few weeks coming out of the game and

Starting point is 00:56:54 getting benched. I thought that was a win for, I mean, it was a win for the Colts, but it was a win for Anthony Richardson and they're weird. They're still in the playoff hunt with Anthony Richardson. No, I didn't mean that as a slight against Anthony. I admit that as a slight towards the jets. Yes. No, no. The Jets defenses atrocious. Um, I have a stat for you. Um, Zach Wilson era for the New York Jets winning percentage three, six, four, and and Rogers way better than that Sam Darnold winning percentage for the Jets 342 Aaron Rogers winning percentage with the Jets 273 they all had seasons seasons

Starting point is 00:57:37 multiple seasons But if you if Aaron Rogers has multiple seasons at 273 it might actually get worse Or it could get better if they just never lose next year. Oh, that's a good point Aaron Rodgers has multiple seasons at 273 it might actually get worse. Or it could get better if they just never lose next year. Oh that's a good point. I don't think he's going to be on the team next year. Yeah so next year is he going to be on the team next year? I don't think so.

Starting point is 00:57:53 I saw a couple reports that even if he wants to play. Oh they're going to say no? Yeah. Where did you see those reports? I believe it was Connor Hughes. Okay sounds like a Rossercini no he works for SMY okay yeah cuz I I think you're saying I did read her article and she said that he they might not want her back yeah no she didn't credit her when

Starting point is 00:58:14 she delivers good news is that good news is that good or bad news what if he doesn't if they don't want him back I don't know the light the future is not right what uh so What do you say when they asked him? I say I think so yeah, I mean that's a good answer. He wants to come back Did you cheer like the crowd cheered when the Jets got their first first down in the two minute under the two minute warning in? The first half I was fired up, okay What about when Aaron Rodgers instead of up. Okay. What about when Aaron Rodgers instead of throwing an interception because he wants to pad his make sure stats feel okay took a sack to end the game? Yeah no that entire sequence was horrible. The pass the lateral behind

Starting point is 00:58:57 the line of scrimmage that went 20 yards backwards didn't know what that was and then he threw it to the middle of the field. Just it's just pain. I do feel bad for you memes. No thanks. I do. I do too but not really because it's Aaron Rodgers. If there was any other quarterback I'd be like. Although maybe I feel bad for you because I really wish this had happened with him on

Starting point is 00:59:17 the Packers. Like this isn't really doing anything for me. It's just hurting you. I have a question for you memes. If you had a time machine and we sent memes back in time, like year and a half as you're courting Aaron Rogers, what do you tell the Jets front office? Are you like screaming? Are you are you waving your hands being like, please don't don't sign this guy? Or do you say, Yeah,

Starting point is 00:59:44 let's try it and hope he doesn't tear his Achilles this time Are you killing baby Hitler I? Think so So yeah, okay, so I think you could say like definitively Aaron Rodgers He probably regrets going to the Jets and picking the Jets as his team yeah, but everything back to the QE Yeah, but I'm wondering if the Jets feel the same way like we really fucked up by bringing Aaron. No, everything comes back to drafting Zach Wilson. Oh, so it goes further. Yeah, it goes further back. All right, so but that entire draft was terrible. So whatever quarterback you pick, it just would

Starting point is 01:00:16 have sucked. So the Achilles though, that was if the Achilles doesn't happen, do you think that all this plays out differently? differently yes because you have that entire year to evaluate the Jets and how it went then you could evaluate Robert how Robert Sala did with Aaron Rodgers you could evaluate how Aaron Rodgers did that entire season you'd be like yeah he's washed I agree with you have drafted a quarterback this year because there was fucking seven of them mm-hmm I agree with you and also I mean Robert Sala obviously was a big scapegoat the Jets defense is so bad since he's left I know it wasn't great when he was still there, but like

Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah, no this is a kid as soon as as soon as they fired him the season was over Yeah, it's the Adams didn't fix anything cuz on redic. I don't even know if he's still on the fucking team Yeah, what is he? Yeah, he is but he just doesn't do anything About Ahmed Gardner He's having a bad year. He'll bounce back next year. Oh golf golf Andres Carlson might have found a cricker for the next 10 years. Oh wow That's huge memes ripped Aaron Rodgers head off. Yeah. Oh, would you do? What do you do? Wait, oh like literally ripped his head off. Is he in there?

Starting point is 01:01:25 Yeah. Let me change the camera so the people can see it. Oh my god. You ripped his head off? Yeah, I had to cut it off. Why'd you do that? Oh memes. Maybe he took off the top 5% of his body.

Starting point is 01:01:36 Did you watch the game here? No, in my apartment. And you were just... How was that going? Sad. Shit. It was sad. my apartment and you were just how is that going sad shit did I saw you treat did the Bears in the just lose the exact same time where the single field goal got blocked Aaron Rodgers got sacked oh man so right now at three and eight you guys would be picking seventh yeah hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on though memes memes shut up Max

Starting point is 01:02:10 Max is only one to one in week 11 he's loving it loving it memes hold on hold on just hold on a second Seahawks at home loss at dolphins. At Dolphins. Loss. At Jaguars. Win. Rams, Bills, Do- You guys could run the table. Loss. Nine and eight. Loss.

Starting point is 01:02:32 Loss. Loss. Do you think that- Will they ever stop making the Jets favorites? No. There were four point favorites in this game. Are they gonna be favored against the Seahawks? I don't know. Whose line is it anyway?

Starting point is 01:02:43 Draft Kings. No way. They're the worst team that has been favored in has been favored. They can't be favored in this game. They can't be It's got to be Seahawks like minus two minus three Do they have a bye? Yes. Oh, it's a bye. All right, probably lost a bye. Yeah They're can't be favored against Seahawks. They'll favored against the pie names you got to be excited for the by you need a week off yeah you do your week off you need a week off bad what about this memes that you come back from the by and you want to win more games right nothing to look

Starting point is 01:03:17 forward to no is like the appointed ambassador to Costa Rica oh how about that that's sick I just I, I'm just made that up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So memes. Is it hurt that this guy's sitting right here? Now the Patriots also suck. Yeah, but they have a don't shake your hand. The Patriots fucking suck. I mean, they have this same record. So much brighter. It doesn't't matter Josh Allen is still in the division, okay, but it does same record Same record and they beat you we all beat them. Okay, but same record and they have a rookie quarterback We've also beaten the bills Before we'll beat him again. Hey cancer this are you this? Are you in a, are you in a football game?

Starting point is 01:04:06 I don't. Would you say that the Patriots have been in win now mode for the last two seasons? No, the opposite. In fact, building build now. Yeah. It means I'm sorry to tell you, but that's your, you're wrong if you think that the situations are the same right now. No, it doesn't matter. Josh Allen. But like Drake make me know a mini Josh Allen. They the afe cycle Josh Allen will run it for 20 years And then next team will get their guy

Starting point is 01:04:32 So how much more time do we have for Josh Allen take 13 years 13 more years? So wait, then who's up after that I think the Jets you think is just and damn arena yeah okay Tom Brady okay so this okay so start 13 years start taking now for 2037 yeah that's not bad 30 sevens our year that's a little hope there's no maybe a Manning brothers in that draft yeah like I'm gonna chill have a son. Yeah, manning grandson. Yeah There's no hope. There's no so definitively though You want him back or not? Depends who the coaches what's funny is Mike McCarthy Yeah, okay What's funny is that they have like Aaron's answer to the question of if he's coming back next year is probably the exact same

Starting point is 01:05:26 Answer that the Jets front office would give right now. Yeah, I mean, yeah sure I guess Yeah, if we can't get someone better. Yeah, which it's crazy, but there's a lot of people better He's just old now. It sucks to watch. Yeah, you know, it's not it doesn't suck to watch. I was trying to be nice Yeah to watch. Yeah, you know, it's not. It doesn't suck to watch. I was trying to be daft and to blind. Yeah, but apparently still wants to play next year. But a lot of people are saying it just won't be with the Jets. It would be really funny if he ended up on the Vikings somehow. We really need that to happen and then goes to like an NFC championship game. That would rock. Uh, okay. Next up, Dolphins, 34, Raiders 19. The Dolphins don't look now, but the Dolphins, they're kind of in it a little bit.

Starting point is 01:06:08 You don't know what? What'd you say? What were you gonna say? I don't know. What were you gonna say? I'm just down. What did you just say? What did you say though?

Starting point is 01:06:16 I don't know where we go. I think that was an internal monologue. Yeah, what just happened there? You are down This game did not matter Yeah, but creating a winner winning culture me okay Every single week you have an interim coach. There's you can't create a winning culture. I need Richardson's you can't only so much you can do Here's the good news Here's the good news.

Starting point is 01:06:45 Here's the good news. That was it. That was it. There's no more like that was it. That was it. Because I know that you were saying to yourself they won that game and then they keep winning like they could do. But that was it.

Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah no it's dead. It's as dead as possible. That was it. It's been dead. The team dead as possible. That was it. It's been dead the team has sucked The team has sucked. I don't I don't tell you how to be a fan But this is how but every Sunday you're like this team sucks. I can't keep rooting for this team. They're so bad They're not gonna make the playoffs and then every Thursday comes around. It's like we got a shot. That's sports. We got a shot That is sports. That is sports.

Starting point is 01:07:25 No, that's not true. Big Cat's known that he's been fucked for weeks now. Yeah, true. I have. Keep coming back though. It's sports. It is sports. If you win your next game, you have to re-head the Aaron Rodgers fight.

Starting point is 01:07:34 And you have to say you might run the table. Okay. If you win your next game. We're not gonna win. Right, but. Thursday's gonna come around and he's gonna think that they're gonna win. We got three, we have a 3% chance. We can't run the table. What, are we making the playoffs? But Thursday's gonna come around and he's gonna think that they're gonna win We have a 3% chance we can't run the table. Oh, what are making the playoffs? But what what is alive?

Starting point is 01:07:53 Hit it real quick. What happens if they beat the Seahawks? What's their chance then? It's gotta go up to at least like 5% My hide max isn't He's not I mean there's they they don't give you that option it is funny that it took until this What are you trying to put that on me? I was I? What button I just I declared the Bears fucked when they were four and four You took you all the way to three and eight yeah, yeah memes Let me ask you this if I had a gun and I told you there's a three percent chance that it's loaded Would you want me to pull the trigger on you?

Starting point is 01:08:26 Yeah, oh, yeah Alright dolphin 34 Raiders 19 To was awesome kind of makes sense that Antonio Pierce said that he should retire after his last concussion He probably saw the schedule. It's like oh we could get it get it maybe easy win on Skyler Thompson. I the dolphins, the dolphins could be frisky. So the dolphins are frisky. Let me say that the dolphins are frisky. The dolphins could somehow make the playoffs. So yeah, with a win, I think they're playing the Patriots next, right? Yeah, I think they would be well, they definitely would be back at 500 with a win there. No, there would be five and six. They'd be five and six. Then they play the

Starting point is 01:09:10 Packers on Thanksgiving week. Thanksgiving night, I believe they have a commanding second place lead in the AFC East right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying about them. Yeah. I don't I there's something there's something to his look good to his look good since he's come back. And it felt like today was like they put it all together John who Smith went off? It was just yeah, I don't know the Dolphins Watch out the Dolphins are Dolphins are gonna play spoiler or maybe fuck around and find a way into this playoff

Starting point is 01:09:38 Yeah, I think yeah definitely spoiler. I don't know if they're gonna make the playoffs, but they do have Insane skill positions and to is getting the ball to him. He's finding them in space and the offensive H hand looked really good today. Yeah. What's the Dolphins chance getting the playoffs? 12%. That's four times as much as the Jets. It could happen. And as for the Raiders, the only thing I'm tracking now with the Raiders is Shador Sanders. After every loss, Shador Sanders tweets, thank you, God. Now, I don't know if this is intentional or not on his part,

Starting point is 01:10:11 because I saw the meme going around earlier this week. So I kept my eyeball on it. And after this game, I noticed that he did immediately tweet, thank you, God. So I went back, and I looked at every single week that the Raiders have played this season. And he has done it after every Raiders loss, except he didn't do it at all, weeks one and week two. So this boils down to the fact that Chador has been posting every Sunday,

Starting point is 01:10:38 except for September 29th, since week three. Okay. So it has tracked so far. but the thing is the Raiders just haven't won very many games. Yeah. So the only weeks that he's missed doing it have been during Raiders wins. Got it. So he has he has he treated every time for a loss? No, because he didn't tweet week one. He's treated every time. Has he ever treated with win since since no he has not since he started tweeting thank you God on Sundays it has only been after Raiders losses okay and he did skip the week where they won a game where they beat the Browns so that's

Starting point is 01:11:15 what I'm tracking right now got it he started in week three yeah missed week four he's tweeted every other week yes got it which coincides very neatly. Yes with the Raiders schedule I mean, I think he would be awesome on the Raiders. He would be and I feel like Tom Brady Would love to have a guy like that. Yeah Raiders and Dion is head coach of the Raiders. Yeah I also Scott Turner definitely he's he's It's he's not given the best situation But he's made the Raiders the Raiders offense looked better today than they've looked in the last Few weeks Brock Bowers was incredible

Starting point is 01:11:49 They still can't run the ball, but I don't think that's Scott's or I think that's just they can't run the ball I think what he did this week was was probably pretty smart Which is just get Brock Bowers at tight end get him the ball there get Brock Bowers the ball at receiver Yeah, get Brock Bowers the ball out of the backfield. So we're just gonna get this guy the ball as much as we can. Yeah. So Scott Turner watch he did better with what he's had than what Luke gets he who also stinks. Also, Brock might be a Blake. Oh, really? They called him Blake Bowers. During the broadcast. And I

Starting point is 01:12:23 think Kyle Rudolph said that he wanted Brock Bowers to be big country, right? Yeah, because he's from Napa. Yeah Napa Valley, which is as country as it gets the most country Yeah, I I Have my eye on the Dolphins. That's all I'm gonna say I've got him circle because since two has been back they beat a Rams team which Like people can say whatever they want. The Rams still have some very good players and they're still in the playoff picture. They lost by three to the Bills and then they took care of business against the Raiders. I have my

Starting point is 01:12:53 eye on them. Will I think we'll see on on the Thursday night, Thanksgiving night when they have to go to Lambeau. It's going to be cold. That will be it. If they win that game and they're back to 500, if they beat the Patriots next week They might be they might be won't they might be the seventh seed and no and we're not gonna call them frauds If they win it in Lambeau and it's gotta be under 40 degrees. I feel like on a holiday that I Don't think it has to be that cold. No, it's like 60 degree. Yeah. I mean, yeah ball me if we're talking Yeah, a nice, humid Thanksgiving, I'm going to adjust that up to if it's under 60 degrees at all. I need at least the announcer to say welcome to the Frozen Tundra. And then the Dolphins won't win at the Frozen Tundra.

Starting point is 01:13:36 Okay. Vikings 23, Titans 13, Sam Darnold, Pumpkin watch is on hold. He's back to being a good quarterback not pumpkin watch anymore the Titans I This game was not super exciting other than will levis had an awesome 98 yard touchdown pass. I was sick and The Titans are just like the number one team that just beats themselves because we've talked about their special teams really bad They also had 13 penalties for 91 yards today and they gave the viking seven First downs with penalties. So that was kind of the name of the game and the Vikings keep just rolling along eight and two, right? No, I think yeah, they're 18 to and this was the Sam Darnold audition for the Tennessee Titans Yes, become the Indianapolis Colts where they just signed old quarterbacks. Yes, I guess Sam Donald's not old, but he does fit that bill. Yeah. The guy that's got

Starting point is 01:14:27 a lot of freedom pass around. He's been yeah, he's purchased townhomes in several cities. Yes. And yeah, so Sam went off for he had 246 to touchdowns known receptions. This was like a big titty bumping game. Every time I looked up at the screen. Somebody was in between the 40 yard line. Yeah. And it felt like they didn't really move all that much. Yeah. Because the big touchdown was that 98 yarder. And then I think Jordan Addison had a big touchdown as well. So yeah, it was, uh, it just wasn't a lot happening. Uh, and the Vikings are better than the Titans. We all thought that and that it was proved. It's actually, it was a good win for the Vikings. Just the fact that the Jaguars win was unimpressive. Yeah, I don't know what you want from the Titans for the rest of the season.

Starting point is 01:15:08 I don't know what their fans want. I don't either. This is one of those teams where it's like just bi-week for the rest of the year. I don't really want to watch this. No. I don't think anyone wants to watch this. I think they should be on the Extra TV. They should go to Side TV.

Starting point is 01:15:23 Although we made a good choice today because that was and we could talk about that game. Oh, I should say Justin Jefferson officially becomes the most reception yards in a player's first five years and we still have what eight games left? Seven games left. Yeah. So he has 6811 yards in his first five seasons. That is a record. He is just so good. Yeah, so good. Also, pretty that the Vikings have the one in three in that list because Randy Moss was three Yeah, I can't I can't keep a beat on Aaron Jones and how injured he ever is Yeah, because he looked like he had some explosiveness and I think he got carted off the field last week

Starting point is 01:16:00 Yeah, he always has like a growing leg a growing leg Yeah, and you don't really know what's what's going to happen. And he wasn't very explosive today. Yeah. So okay. Talk about explosive. Last game the early slate. Lions 52 Jaguars 6. Holy fuck. Someone in this room said this is their the NFL makes no sense game of the year said very confidently to on the Jaguars spread and money line Let me just read that again 52 to 6 the Lions had 645 yards of office. I was winning this game at one point. They were there at three nothing

Starting point is 01:16:41 What were you thinking when they were up three nothing? It was on the side TV So I couldn't really pay attention it was three nothing. Uh, what were you thinking when they were up three? Nothing. It was on the side TV. So I couldn't really pay attention. It was three. Nothing. I was like, yes, listen, it didn't again. Wait a minute. What does that mean? What do you mean? Because it was on the side TV. It was all pay attention. Yes, max. It was on the side TV. So when you're looking forward at all these TVs, you don't, you forget about looking to the side. By the time I remembered to look to the side it was 21 to 3 Maybe five minutes later. He's not talking about a side TV on the main wall. He's talking about the TV. That's oh TV cuz I knew this is gonna happen. I thought it was just like one of the other no No, we said it on Friday that this was a game where the the Lions will come out

Starting point is 01:17:23 They will kill the Jaguars and the Jaguars will quit Because Doug Peterson is gonna get fired because they have the bye week next week There was a report this morning that Doug Peterson will probably get fired I would assume by the time you're listening to this Doug Peterson's been fired This was this was like Alabama verse Kent State like Alabama versus Kent State. Like I think Tennessee played Kent State this year and it was like 71-0. That was this was an early September little little school going to an SEC school game which isn't supposed to happen in the NFL.

Starting point is 01:17:56 Jared Goff had 412 yards four touchdowns the only quarterback ever to have multiple games with a perfect passer rating that had 400 plus yards seven touchdowns Seven touchdowns five guys scored. I mean this was insane Yeah, Hank How much of you you saying that the NFL doesn't make any sense in picking the Jaguars was because Mac Jones was starting Zero, I just if anything it should have been reverse. Yeah, it was a bad pick. I'm very dumb I don't know ball I tried to call my shot and I was I was wrong and and now will be the last time I do that if you had

Starting point is 01:18:30 Known that before the game there would be a report that if the Jaguars don't show up if they get blown out Then their head coach will be fired would that have made you more inclined or less inclined to bet on them? More inclined because if there's ever a world where they were gonna win It was gonna be because they were fighting for their coach I clearly they did the opposite right but they're like oh wait he's gonna be fired if we if we get blown out bet right but if in you know in hindsight if situations are reversed they actually wanted to play for him like a Disney movie or something yeah they beat the. Yeah when they did this one for does it when they were up three nothing Yeah

Starting point is 01:19:08 Some other crazy sets a man Ra had 11 targets. He had 11 catches 161 yards and two touchdowns This one's nuts. So These teams actually played two years ago. And if you don't remember it's because it went almost exactly the same And if you don't remember, it's because it went almost exactly the same. In the last eight quarters the Jaguars and Lions have played, the Lions are up 92 to 20 and they have not punted. That's nuts. 92 to 20. You want to hear something else that's crazy?

Starting point is 01:19:35 This is just a little bit over a year ago. This is August 2023. There was a poll, I think the Athletic put it out. Who would you rather be? The Lions or the Jaguars? Yes 66% of people said the Jaguars Wow, this was so It it sounds crazy. It was it is crazy, but it's basically less than a year ago

Starting point is 01:20:01 The Jack the Jaguars were eight-3 heading into that Monday night football game against the Bengals. Since then, they have lost 14 of their last 17 games. Think about that. 8-3. That was the Pete Prisco year, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, they were going to the Super Bowl. They were 8-3 and since then, the absolute bottom has fallen out.

Starting point is 01:20:20 Yeah, it's been bad. It's been real bad. Real bad. And when you think it can't get any worse in Jacksonville, it's somehow it does find a way. It's the worst loss in organization history. Yeah, these, it's not supposed to look like this in the NFL. Like, it's just not supposed to look like this. Jameson Williams did the hold my dick tool. He did the hold my dick. Every time we looked up, there was another long touchdown. Yeah. All right. I also think in this game we can talk about

Starting point is 01:20:45 their skill position players because they are awesome on the lines and Sam Laporte didn't even play. Sam Laporte did not play. You got Brocked. Everybody at the skill position is awesome on the lines, but their offensive line. Oh yeah. It was just gaping people. Malling like I it's it's a tired thing to say like I could have rushed for X amount of yards in this game. I think I probably would have had 12 yards. That's that would have had 12 yards rushing today if I played on the line. That's what I'm saying when it when it looked like not just in score, but in just watching the game. It looked like an SEC team versus Mac team. Yeah, because it was like the the difference in I should

Starting point is 01:21:22 say Toledo did beat Mississippi State this year. So it doesn't always go like that. Mississippi State? Yeah, Mississippi State. They beat Mississippi at Mississippi State. But it was like men and boys playing in this game. And the only bad news for the Lions is Alex Anzaloni broke his arm.

Starting point is 01:21:40 So he is gonna be out for six to eight weeks. But other than that, the Lions are just incredible. Yeah Well, they'll probably have a bye. So back for the playoffs, maybe? Yeah, and the Lions by the way for the first time in franchise history are officially Super Bowl favorites Good for them. They are officially Super Bowl favorites. Love that. Max Are you have you reached the point where you're now rooting against the Lions? Yeah, for sure have to be plus 350 the Lions are to win the Super Bowl the Chiefs are plus 450. It's crazy Lions are Super Bowl favorites

Starting point is 01:22:13 So I don't know. I mean like that's that's nuts their schedule is not easy though. No well Well, they're better than everyone at home though, which sucks. And they're also better than everyone. They are. So their schedule is kind of easy. So they got the Colts. Better than. Better than Chicago who. Better than. Chicago is capable of almost beating anyone. If we brought back Justin Fields for just the Lions game

Starting point is 01:22:37 because he actually was the Lions killer and that doesn't mean he beat them a bunch. It means that he was just good against them and met Iberfluce happened a bunch Then Packers Bill better than Bill's bills is a tough game. Good game 49ers Better than that's the only one on the road though. They're better than the 49ers. What are we talking about? That happens? Oh, I understand. I understand better than all I think they're significantly better than the 49ers right now So they've got they got two outdoor games Which is the that's the knock against your golf although Jared Goff played well outdoors and the 49ers right now, so they've got they got two outdoor games Which is the that's the knock against your golf although Jared golf played well outdoors and the 49ers game will be fine weather

Starting point is 01:23:10 Most likely the Bears yeah the Bears might but that's also the second last game of the season like the Niners team could get Could look different then than they do now Yeah, the Niners. I hate that. I'm even like justifying this but oh You're thinking the ball. I know what that year What he's thinking when Brock Purdy got hurt what one seed no you're thinking maybe you get to seed and what if the? Niners got the seventh seed oh I would hate that yeah That would be bad. I know I mean cuz the NF, the seven, there's so many teams I don't want to see from the seven seed. Yeah. The NFC is going to be a tough battle for that, you

Starting point is 01:23:51 know, six, seven seed. Give me your acceptable list of teams that you would like to see at the seven seat. Oh, I like this. Who would you like to host? I don't like this because then it puts it puts Bolton board material. Yeah the year. Yeah, but you gotta say Just oh wow get it means yeah get his oxy hawks. I would love okay fair We play the Rams next week I'll answer that question after we play the Rams okay 49ers you wouldn't buy wooden box I would not want to see the 49ers. I would not want to see the bucks. Bears. Bears. Bears would suck just because I would have to be in a room. I would have to do it with you. What do you mean? You'd kill us.

Starting point is 01:24:36 Rizzy. Suck. Saints. Saints would be great. Cowboys. Panthers. Panthers would be great. Giants. Giants would be great. Okay, all right, so what about commanders? You say them. Yeah, you didn't say that Seven seed at the season in the Vikings. I would love I would love the Vikings We beat the fuck out of the Vikings every time Bolton board yeah, that's that's Bolton board that I don't care about saying because the Viking Vikings fans know it too. Yeah. Yeah That I don't care about saying because the Viking Vikings fans know it too. Yeah. Yeah Now I really want it to be the Vikings Vikings are the Seahawks based on what max just said that's what I would love

Starting point is 01:25:14 So do you I mean the line? They're just so good. The lines are so good I don't I don't know what else is one seed the one seed would be phenomenal They're just and this was part of why I bet on them today is like They're so good and they also are in a way where like Dan Campbell doesn't have them in like, let it, like he somehow has them. He's got them scared every week. He's got the juice. It's like, you better go out there and play fucking hard. Yeah, or I'm going to fucking beat you up. I will kick your ass.

Starting point is 01:25:36 Yeah. It's crazy. No, he didn't, he didn't do any of that in the first half of the first quarter though. Yeah, true. Remember that Hank? True. Three nothing. Three nothing. 59 yard field goal. that in the first half of the first quarter though. Yeah, that hang true three nothing three nothing if the 59 yard field goal if the quarter was only 10 minutes long I think the Jaguars would have won the first quarter. Yeah. Oh also we should say the Jaguars punter

Starting point is 01:25:54 was great today. He had a five punts 53.5 yard average and three that he put inside the 20. It's good. It's really good day. That's something that you can build around. Yeah. Build the whole team around the Jags punter. All right. So let's take a look at the Jaguars coaching roster right now. Figure out who the interim head coach is going to be. Yes, please. Press Taylor, offensive coordinator, friend of the show. Yeah. I don't think he would get the off. I don't think he would get the well, like the he's not a perfect meatball interim head coach okay then

Starting point is 01:26:29 the other options we have Mike McCoy that's a football guy that's a name that's been around football for a long time I could see him Chad Hall way too much of a Chad also friend of the program he helped us get the Matthew Stafford interview because that is Matthew Stafford's brother-in-law he He is also 100% Chad though They act and he actually might be a good interest. Yeah, his parents accurately named him Yeah, he could he could be a good interim because he does have the juice their running backs coach I've got my eye on this guy Just because his name is Jerry Mack. Okay, that's a good. Yeah, that's a good interim head coach name

Starting point is 01:27:06 Phil Rauscher's got a nice goatee for an interim coach kind of Dan Campbell hat tip there And then on defense Ryan Nielsen has a fucking mustache. Look at this guy. Look at their defense Oh, yeah, I mean, yes, it could be the guy. I just don't know if you you just got 50 hung on Yeah, I can't message that since you can't do that or although maybe it makes your defense better because he's no longer coaching that's true I Chad Hall Chad Hall's a scrap he's a gritty guy okay he's a gritty guy I'm gonna guess Chad Chad Hall was the wide receivers coach for a while with the bills all right so he could be he could

Starting point is 01:27:41 be the guy Chad or j mac Chad or jmac. Yeah, I just like saying Jerry Mac Yeah, not Mike McCoy. Remember he was a head coach. He was bad Yeah, but he's got through the Chargers sometimes they like to do that and they say this guy's got experience Yeah, yeah, Chad Hall was I think he played football at Air Force. So he would be fuck. Yeah Yeah, no, you know military time everything also is Trevor Lawrence just not gonna play anymore. I wouldn't yeah Why what was your decision right now big-time business decision get family on the way? Yeah Okay, let's take another break. We'll go to the afternoon games So you got a couple more ads PFT?

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Starting point is 01:30:35 to get you on this game well I you understand like I explained it I had been through the Auburn Bo Nicks I had Oregon future last year I was I've been I've been hurt many times by Bo Nicks but I am a believer as of last Friday and holy shit that he lighted up 307 yards for touchdowns 24 33 the first rookie quarterback ever to have a game with 80% completion percentage, four or more touchdowns and 300 or more yards. The Broncos, that's how you get off the mat against, you know, with a terrible, terrible loss to the Chiefs. They get off the mat, they throttle the Falcons, and now we have to have the difficult conversation, is Bo Nicks going to win rookie of the year

Starting point is 01:31:25 Yeah, I mean he is he's worked his way back into contention for what are the odds right now? I look them up right because for a while Jaden was like minus 400 But it's got to be like it's got to be much much closer than that right now Yeah, it's playing awesome the last nine games for Bo Nicks have been unreal in terms of scoring touchdowns and not turning the ball over Yeah, he has stopped which it's like give and take for me with Bo because part of what I loved about Bo at least early On the season is he did make some of those crazy laser beam throws directly at a defender, correct? But he stopped doing that now. So it's only good Bo. We're getting a good bow now. He is down right now Maybe because until after Monday night, maybe right now. It's just MVP. I'm seeing on DraftKings. Um

Starting point is 01:32:08 Although it shouldn't be because there's no Monday night rookies Playing that I can think of Cooper Rush. Does he still have rookie eligibility Trey Lance? Can he still be considered a rookie who the Texans have Texans don't have offensive rookies Texans have. Texans don't have offensive rookies. So either way, Bo Nix has been incredible. Bo Nix, yeah, he right now has 14 touchdowns, 2,200 yards, four rushing touchdowns. Max, you think we all picked the wrong guy, which by the way would be very funny if Bo Nix went on to win like

Starting point is 01:32:45 multiple Super Bowls and then we could just all be miserable together. And there's a shitload of tape of us saying bad things about Bo Nix over the last year. I don't take anything back because again, I've been hurt by Bo Nix so many times. I mean, even like during the draft, before I summoned a Broncos uniform, I think we all thought the same thing, which was Sean Payton found his son. But that's my point is I had I had history Bo Nicks didn't come into the NFL as a rookie Bo Nicks was part of my life for what feels like a decade Yeah, but yeah, he's playing incredible ball and the Broncos look good. Like their defense is good. The defense completely

Starting point is 01:33:19 Discombobulated the Falcons. They looked so bad today and That like like I said, that's how you get off the mat, like the Broncos are a good football team. And to respond like that after a loss like they had to the Chiefs where you saw the quotes afterwards, saying that was a gut punch and it was gonna be tough to come back from. They came back from it and they demolished demolished the Falcons. Okay, so we alluded to this on Friday show, but an update to it. Sean Payton is now four and oh yes against the NFC South. Yes. His point differential is plus 88. Wow. He's averaging. I'm not a math guy. 22 points killing them of a point differential against

Starting point is 01:34:01 all those teams in the division that used to kill them. This game was never even like it wasn't even the Falcons never got. I think their first drive was, was decent and they got a field goal and it was seven three. And then you, you blinked and it was over. And Bo Nix just was dicing them up. The defense is suffocating with the rare times that Bichon Robinson got the ball in open space. It closed up really quickly on him. Yeah. He was able to get like one cut in one and a half cuts and boom, get hit. The defense for the Broncos is, they are really, really good. Yes, they got their asses kicked by the Raiders, or excuse me, the Ravens,

Starting point is 01:34:33 but they're a very good football team, I think. On the Falcons side, I'm done with the Falcons. They could be in the playoffs because they obviously have those two wins over the Bucks So it's gonna be hard for the Bucks to although I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked because the Bucks to get Mike Evans back But I think I'm done with the Falcons. They don't get they don't do anything on defense. I mean, they don't rush the passer whatsoever I love Bijan. I just They're so frustrating to watch defensively that I think I have to be done with them

Starting point is 01:35:06 They're not gonna like this is the NFC South for the first month and a half of the season Especially the first two weeks were like, holy shit Saints are incredible or you know Saints look great The the Falcons, you know have some big-time games They had a couple tragic losses the Bucks are firing everywhere Baker you know, have some big time games. They had a couple of tragic losses. The bucks are firing everywhere. Baker, the NFC South is back to just being the NFC South where I don't do. Are they going to win a playoff game? The NFC South,

Starting point is 01:35:35 maybe if the bucks get in because Baker, but I don't, I just don't, I don't know what to make of the Falcons. I just, I'm thoroughly unimpressed. Tell you what to make of the Falcons. They are Kirk cousins. Yeah, It's perfect. It's actually a perfect marriage that they have. Because if you look at them, they have lost to every really good team, every good team that they've played. And then, the same. What?

Starting point is 01:35:56 Oh, the Eagles? Well, you guys, the Eagles lost that game. They beat the Eagles. I don't know if the Falcons won that. Depends on what you think of the Bucs, too. Depends on what you think of the Bucs. But the Falcons are exactly who you would think that they are. They're going to be an above average team ultimately because there's a lot of shitty

Starting point is 01:36:12 teams in the league. They're probably going to make the playoffs. They might not win a playoff game. They might win a squeaker in the first round, but I don't think that they're going to do any damage whatsoever in the NFC. Yeah. I'm rooting for the Bucs to make the playoffs now, even in spite of Stephen Che because-

Starting point is 01:36:28 Well, he's been released. Yeah, he's been released and I like, Baker is more fun in a playoff setting than what I'm watching from the, I just don't understand how they can, they get nothing in terms of defensive push and they got, they signed Matthew Judon. Yeah. It's crazy to watch. Yeah. I mean, this was an ass-kicking from start to finish Michael Pinnix got in with it felt like the entire fourth quarter in front of him. Yeah, didn't look bad actually. Shout out Michael Pinnix

Starting point is 01:36:54 but yeah, it's a Good time to be a Broncos fan. I kind of want to bet the bucks to win the NFC South They play basically the identical schedules down the stretch. The only difference being I believe the I believe the the Bucks have a game against the Cowboys which might be good now that now that Dak is out so that like but other than that they kind of have the same schedule like they both play the Raiders both play the Giants both play the the Panthers. So it's gonna be tough for the Bucs to make it up because they've lost both the games to

Starting point is 01:37:28 Saints but I'm team Bucs. Sorry Falcons fans I just can't maybe I don't know I don't know what you can do. Give the ball make the whole team out of Bijon because I love him but I just can't watch your defense anymore. I got news for you I think that the Broncos could get 11 wins. Yeah. I think it's very possible. I was talking about the Falcons and Bucks, but yeah. But we said a couple weeks ago that this was going to be like the hard part of the Broncos

Starting point is 01:37:55 schedule because they had to go up against the Ravens, had to go at the Chiefs. And then the Falcons, they might have been a good team. We weren't really sure. Now I think we have a better understanding. But then they get the Raiders, the Browns, the Colts, the Chargers, the Falcons, they might've been a good team. We weren't really sure. Now I think we have a better understanding. But then they get the Raiders, the Browns, the Colts, the Chargers, the Bengals, and the Chiefs. I think 10 or 11 wins is very, very realistic for the Broncos. 11 is gonna be probably tough.

Starting point is 01:38:15 I have a feeling like they're gonna win one of those two games against either the Chargers or the Chiefs at home. They'd have to go five and one down the stretch. But yeah, no, the Broncos are good. The Broncos are a good team, and they feel like the future is bright for the first time in a long time with the Broncos because since Peyton Manning, they've been through a lot of shit. They had Peyton Manning and then the decade it's been, or nine years

Starting point is 01:38:39 since then, they've been going through quarterbacks and been, you know, going through coaches and kind of a laughing stock for a franchise that was the model of consistency for a very long time. But now it feels like they're going the right direction. So you can look at this one of two ways. The first being like, Sean Payton, great job against the the NFC South. But then when you take away all those games, and you're left with what they've done besides those games. Yeah. They've won two games outside of the NFC South.

Starting point is 01:39:10 They've beaten the Jets 10 to nine. No longer a good win. Never a good win. And then they beat the Raiders. Those are the two wins outside that. Those aren't big. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:21 So now I'm talking my way out of it now. I don't know. All right. Let's not put. They almost beat the Chiefs. All right. But Don't know. Let's not put almost beat the chiefs. All right, but let's not let's not put a cap on the like if the Broncos Don't get to Ten or eleven wins That's not a failure of a season because it feels like they have a quarterback That they can build around and they have a good young defense and like Sean Payton might have his mojo back

Starting point is 01:39:42 So it's the futures bright because we don't want to say they're gonna win 10 or 11 games and then they don't like oh man That was disappointing because we set them up for that. Yeah, we set them up for failure. That's what I do that That's our job. It is our job media We got a job to do they got a job if the Broncos they play at the best of their ability today if they can do That they should win the Super Bowl. What is there? If they play the Super Bowl against Falcons, I'm taking the Broncos I'm taking the Broncos. I'm taking the Broncos minus 31. What uh so so if the playoff started today the Broncos would be in and uh if they can if they can get to 10 wins they should they should get in there because the the teams behind them uh have a lot of like ground to make up especially now that

Starting point is 01:40:24 the Bengals which we'll get to have caught another loss and we'll have to discuss that Still don't want to stop believing in them, which I should But the Broncos do feel like they should should get into the playoffs. Yeah, I would agree Okay schedule coming up. They should yeah and the Falcons. I'm just I don't know. I'm just Whatever whatever with the thanker you doing. Whatever. Yes. Hey, can you remind me to bet against the Falcons in wildcard with soup? Excuse me. Super wildcard weekend. Yes. Yes, please. Let me just look at the date. Although if it was started right

Starting point is 01:40:59 now be the it'd be the Vikings getting it. The Falcons. That's two franchises with some really sad playoff history mm-hmm and they played in a very famous game that's true but also Kirk Cousins were I'm in the play tie yeah that would be fun yeah on storyline okay another team I don't know what the fuck to make of well actually both of them Seahawks 29ers 17 I think the Niners are in a lot of trouble yeah they've I mean I but I said on Friday like I was like I think the Niners are in a lot of trouble because they've I mean I but I said on Friday Like I was like, I think they're in a lot of trouble and they blew another fourth quarter lead Geno Smith

Starting point is 01:41:31 This was the full Geno Smith roller coaster of a game where we had a terrible interception Another snap issue where if you I said we've said it a million times But if you watch the Seahawks game without fail At least once a game they'll lose 10 to 15 yards on a snap problem but then gino put on his hero cape and Led a fourth quarter drive that was awesome. He was 7 for 8 54 yards two rushes 29 yards He now since 2023 has seven Uh fourth quarter game winning drives. That's the most in the NFL. That's Gino Smith the whole

Starting point is 01:42:12 Like the whole roller coaster you saw it all with Gino Smith today Yeah, the good the ugly the great it was there and it was weird because the Seahawks they kept it They kept it relatively close, but it didn't feel like they had enough going on where they were gonna win But you kept watching the Niners failed to put them away and you're like they're just letting the Seahawks hang around way way way too long here the Seahawks could fuck around and win this game they kept it seemed like every time I looked up JSN had another catch for like 12 yards and little by little they got it done at the end I am I am very worried about the Niners now I figured that they were going to join me I thought that they were going to kick the shit out of the Seahawks Yeah, you know if all makes no sense and they play at Green Bay and at Buffalo their next two games the Niners

Starting point is 01:42:52 So and and if you look at the standings, they're one in three in the end in the NFC West Yeah, so the NFC West is a complete shit show very fun division But it's a shit show because every team is still very much alive and the Niners like this is the for like this happened in the Cardinals game it's happened in the Seahawks games happened in the Rams game where they can't put teams away and I know they didn't have Kittle today and obviously Brandon Iukes out but it's very concerning they cannot it seems like they cannot put teams away and win these games where

Starting point is 01:43:25 they feel like the better team for three quarters and then it just falters. And Brock Purdy, like he was running for his life. I give a lot of credit to Seahawks defense. They were all over the place. The only person they couldn't guard was Joanne Jennings, but the Seahawks defense was flying. Brock Purdy felt like he had to scramble for a million yards in the pocket and then out of the pocket. And yeah, the Niners like it's it's crazy how how quickly you can look at it and be like, wow, the Niners. This is going to be very, very they don't have much margin for error going down the stretch. Nobody in that division does. No, even the Cardinals who lead the division right now, I think they're up by one game, right? And then there's a three-way tie for second place

Starting point is 01:44:06 Although the Niners would be in fourth place because they're in there one and three. Yeah in the division when you look Yeah, but what I'm saying is like no team can like tiebreakers are one thing But no team in that division should be comfortable right now. No, it's gonna be chaos. Yeah Yeah, and the end with the NFC North the three teams the NFC North all playing well, there's There's not a lot of there's not a lot of room for and your commanders like that's the the seventh seed is not You're gonna have to get to probably 11 wins. It's gonna be I think one team out of the West. Yeah I'm pretty confident with that. Yeah. Well, you better be yeah If it's not then something bad happened to you something bad happened to either me or to maybe the Packers that's sure that I think

Starting point is 01:44:47 about that would be nice that would be nice okay so and you had to see how off a bye with their leading so their leading tackler got cut and then another guy retired and they answered the bell and then Geno Smith hit him with a night night night night he is Steph a night night. Night night. Steph Curry night night. Yeah. So there was a 90.3% win probability that the Niners had. That's every game for them.

Starting point is 01:45:13 It is. It's crazy. So I was looking at the chart. I was like, that seems bad, but no, this is kind of the story of how Kyle Shanahan has been operating recently. Yeah. They're the every game for them feels like they have it. And then, Oh, oh whoops something happened

Starting point is 01:45:26 I mean like I said, especially in the division they lost that Rams game They they got outscored 13 to 3 in the fourth quarter in that game the Cardinals game earlier in the year Remember when they were like, what were they 10-point? Favorites or something the Cardinals beat them 11-0 in the fourth quarter. So they can't put teams away Yeah, they just cannot put teams away and I know Kittle would definitely help but they can't put teams away right now Yeah, they they they broke into all their bag of magic tricks that they had without Kittle and they're trying to get the ball around Trying to have different people rush it Spread it around a lot on offense

Starting point is 01:46:02 Zero catches day for Ricky Pearsall though. And that's the guy that you can go to downfield and I don't even know if they target him. Maybe they target him a couple times. The offense does, it's not fun. I used to watch the 49ers play and be excited to watch them play. And that stopped when this season started. Even though they got Christian McCaffrey back, they're not fun to watch on offense. No, they're not.

Starting point is 01:46:24 They're not. They're broken. All right. Last game in the afternoon slate, and then we'll talk 7-8 football. Bill's 30, Chiefs 21. The Chiefs perfect season is done. The Bills, Sean McDermott has learned. He's starting to learn. He's getting smarter because this game essentially came down to the fourth and two on the Chiefs 26 yard line where the Bills could have kicked a field goal to go up five and he said wait a second Patrick Holmes is on the other side line if I go up five he will go down score a touchdown and rip all of our hearts out of our chest and he said Allen, go do something crazy.

Starting point is 01:47:06 And that's exactly what he did with the 26 yard touchdown run to win the game, seal the game. Good for the Bills for getting smarter and winning a game like this. I know they've beaten the Chiefs, I think, four straight years in the regular season, then lost three straight years in the playoffs. So this doesn't really mean much,

Starting point is 01:47:22 but it's still nice because they have a chance at to one seed and Sean McDermott is getting smarter. It's also better than the alternative. Correct. So the alternative is to lose to the chiefs in the regular season and then lose them again in the playoffs. Right. This is better. You would rather have the confidence that maybe you can win if your coach doesn't absolutely screw himself over during the game. And yeah, if, if Sean McDermott had kicked that field goal and then kicked off to my homes and then lost, I would say there would be an argument to be made for Sean McDermott to start packing his bags in the season. Yeah. Like he's at that point, it's like, what have you learned? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:55 And I think, cause everybody that's watching this knew that was right call. You would have been an utter bonehead not to do it. Also congratulations to Josh Allen, because on that rushing play, he became the all time leader in rushing touchdown for the Bills, surpassing OJ Simpson. Oh nice. A record that the Bills were desperately hoping That's huge.

Starting point is 01:48:15 Would be broken, fuck you OJ. That's huge. He has more than Thurman Thomas? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Damn, good for Josh Allen. He remains two ahead of OJ in the category of people that he never murdered though. That's also fact

Starting point is 01:48:28 I I mean, I think right now the Bills are a better team than she than the Chiefs Obviously the playoffs are different animal and Patrick Mahomes will do Patrick Mahomes things and and we'll be like hey How'd they win three in a row? But the Bills defense is good. Their offense is good They couldn't even run the ball today and Josh was without Keon Coleman and Dawson Knox and they still found a way. They're going to get Matt Milano back. Like the Bills, like you said last week for a team that had their championship window closed, they're, they're pretty damn good. Yeah. This is all extra for an off year. No one expects the Bills to do anything for a rebuilding year. They're pretty damn good. It turns out you can rebuild when you have Josh Allen as your quarterback. Yeah. And you let Josh

Starting point is 01:49:09 Allen be Josh Allen. Yeah. Just let him go back there and figure something out. Yeah. And he'll make it happen. Except we almost got, there was a moment at the end of the first half where Alan through that interception, where the chiefs go down and I thought, I think they get three points out of it. But to me that felt like one that The we're gonna be looking at at the end of the game be like fuck the homes has the ball Down like three points. Yeah, and now he's gonna go win the game because of that costly interception Yeah, I know the the bills overcame it congratulations to Buffalo No, Josh didn't play a perfect game But he did just enough especially at the end of the game and he is very much in the MVP conversation

Starting point is 01:49:45 Also, the Bills defense did a very good job of bottling up Travis Kelsey, which you know They he's killed them in the past. I think he had eight yards total then they went to Brock though That left Brock open or excuse me. I know a great great. No great. Yeah. Yeah Also, this is a crazy stat the Chiefs. So The Bills scored 30 points. That's thes so the Bills scored 30 points that's the fifth straight game they scored 30 points the Chiefs hadn't allowed 28 plus points in a regular season game since week 4 2022 to Tom Brady so that was 38 straight games that their defense held a team under 28 which is a winning recipe when

Starting point is 01:50:22 you have Patrick Mahomes yeah but it also showed that if the chief's defense doesn't ball out, the chief's offense is like, it's not the perfect offense and they don't have, they have a lot of answers, but they don't have every answer, uh, to play in like a shootout type game. There was a moment in the first half where I thought to myself like, how the fuck did the chiefs get Xavier worthy? Oh yeah. The bills let the chiefs have Xavier worthy. But then you see where Xavier worthy is lacking what the chiefs have had in the past at receiver, which is I think Xavier worthy has the least amount of sideline awareness of any receiver

Starting point is 01:50:57 in the NFL. Also, I would get this. It's happened to him a few times this year where he's wide open downfield for like 40 yards. And then he catches it and doesn't even think to get, I think today he dragged his foot a full foot. I think it was a full step before the ball got there. Yeah. And so then he just steps out of bounds earlier this year. He just stood out of bounds and made a catch. It's small things that I maybe, you know what, maybe this is how the chiefs are getting me

Starting point is 01:51:21 right now. Maybe it's like, okay, they're convincing me that they're a flawed football team that they don't have it like they did in years past and then all of a sudden the playoff Xavier worthy is going to have like a perfect perfect understanding of how to get his toes in yeah the I Know there's still I mean, they're both rookies, but I would much rather have Keon Coleman right now Right now. Yeah. Yeah, and that's the I mean that's the the meme like I can't believe the Bills let Xavier You know the Chiefs get Xavier worthy well they got Keon Coleman Yeah, and I know he didn't play in this game, but Keon Coleman has looked like he has been more of a complete receiver In the last month and a half than Xavier worthy is nice

Starting point is 01:51:55 Xavier worthy is super super fast, but he hasn't been like a guy that you can go to time and time again, so That one we might have gotten ahead of ourselves. Maybe I still think Xavier one week one we were just like, damn, well, it was first touch. Yeah, first time we touched the ball scores a touchdown. Yeah, I think Xavier worthy is gonna be really, really good and very, very, very good fit for Patrick Mahomes. But I think most receivers would probably be a better fit with Mahomes than anybody else. Yeah, I'd agree with that So this was a great game though We had great football on Sunday and we talked about the Sunday football game, which we just ended up watching

Starting point is 01:52:31 oh by the way, so the Chiefs obviously first loss It will be very interesting because now with the Steelers winning and the Bills winning The one seed is definitely up for grabs and the Steelers do play the Chiefs. So it will be interesting how it shakes out. But the Bills have a little bit of a tough schedule because they have to play the Niners and I think they have to go to the Lions.

Starting point is 01:52:56 But this is up for grabs and it feels so, so important to get that one seed in the AFC because the AFC is so top heavy that if you get the one seed in the AFC because the AFC is so top-heavy that like if you get the one seed And you can avoid playing the Chiefs or like if you're the Bills and you can avoid playing the Chiefs in this in the second round That would be pretty nice and so in vice versa So last year it was that was it the second round Steelers had to go to the Chiefs and got the shit kicked out of them I believe right no the Steelers while those wilds the Chiefs and got the shit kicked out of them. I believe right? No the Steelers why those wilds haven't won a playoff game It was wild card yours one of the playoffs last year the Steelers went to the bills went to the bills

Starting point is 01:53:34 What am I looking at here? What I don't know. I don't know what you're looking at. Remember? It was the snow They changed the game 2012 change. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is a couple years ago. Yeah That was the that was the TJ Watt first touchdown game when the Chief Steelers had to go to the Chiefs. Oh that's right. Two or three years ago. We thought, we thought, yeah, yeah, well Hank might have wanted a shitload of money. Yeah. But I, I guess I, I don't get the feeling like Mahomes can go into Pittsburgh and do the same kind of stuff that he's done in the past past like going into Buffalo and shutting them down I feel like the Steelers the Steelers defense at home is good enough to stop my homes. I

Starting point is 01:54:12 Mean I did he last year he went into Buffalo and Baltimore So I'm not gonna say that my homes can't go into anywhere and win I feel like the Steelers defense though at home, but he's Patrick Holmes Listen, maybe you might be right, the Steelers might be able to, but I would, I'm never going to doubt Patrick Holmes going anywhere in a playoff game. After last year, when it was like, the Chiefs are bad, and they have to go play at at Buffalo, then they have to go play at Baltimore, and they beat them both. Yeah, that kind of ended that one for me. I know Tom know, Tomlin at home, nighttime playoff game.

Starting point is 01:54:47 Yeah. Towels going. Yeah. Cold. I'm getting pumped up for playoff football. I'm getting pumped up for playoff football, which you probably, unfortunately, are not if you are a Bengals fan. Because the Sunday Night Football game was incredible.

Starting point is 01:55:02 Chargers, 34. Bengalsals 27. This game was everything that we wanted out of both teams because we had the Chargers were incredible in the first half. Then Justin Herbert was bad for a good portion of the third and fourth quarter. And Joe Burrow put the Bengals on his back and was like we're going to we're winning this game I'm going to do everything we can and then they just both kind of like lost their minds the Bengals miss a couple kicks Evan McPherson misses a couple kicks there was that stretch where we had what was it 11 plays in a minute it was 11 plays in

Starting point is 01:55:39 a minute I'm pulling up the exact the drives here because they both lost their mind they did because it was a tie game is 27 27 and both teams felt like they were going to try to actually just hitting yourself in the head with a football right now. You okay? I have ADD. Okay. It was just, he was seriously like slamming a full speed into his head. It was 27 27 and both teams felt like they had to throw the ball to win. Yeah. Neither team wanted to admit that they might, they

Starting point is 01:56:10 might, uh, want to give up on this game and just take it to overtime. So what ended up happening was the ball going back and forth, back and forth at the end through incompletions. And it was insane. I felt like I was going crazy. Like neither one of these coaches has ever watched the end of a football game before Yeah, no, it was the the one where the Evan McPherson misses a kick there's a minute and 45 seconds left the Chargers have I think two timeouts and They need I don't know 25 yards to get in range for Dicker the kicker and they just went pass, pass, pass in completion and completion and completion and punted it back to Joe burrow. 10 seconds later, like run the ball and try

Starting point is 01:56:50 to get, you know, like run a little clock off. You have timeouts, get some yards, but, and then the Bengals just did the same thing back to them and you get the end of the game where I'm not to make it about the bears, but Jim Harbaugh did everything that Maddie Bufoose cannot do In both but like he basically took both the commanders in the Packers loss into one last minute of the game because with First and ten on like the Bengals whatever it was 25 and a timeout in his pocket instead of just you know being like Oh, we'll kick a field goal from here They ran a play and JK Dobbins scored a touchdown and then when the Hail Mary they played sideline defense took a timeout before the Hail Mary and

Starting point is 01:57:32 Blitz Joe burrow and didn't let him get a clean pass off and were able to win the game Yeah, so it was I believe good job Jim Harbaugh. You're a good coach I believe it's 15 plays in the last two minutes, but in that first minute after the two minute warning, I think they got 11 plays off in that short time span. At the end, we're talking about with Harbaugh trying to go for the win and continuing to actually play off of the football. Do you think for a second that Brandon Staley would have done that? No. Brandon Staley would have been so happy to settle for a 52-yard field goal.

Starting point is 01:58:04 And if you know anything about the history of the Chargers and I think Harbaugh has done research about the history of the Chargers pain losses. Because he managed that in a way that was so completely different from everything that the team has done in the past that makes you think he's actually sat down and watched that. Yeah, because they almost Chargers this game away. They did. Justin Herbert was, I think he was six for 20 at one point in the second half where he was almost perfect in the first half. They tried. Joe Burrow played an awesome second half. He always has to. Yeah. He has

Starting point is 01:58:32 to put the team on his back constantly. Um, and you know, maybe if they had done more on offense in the first half, cause they only scored six points in the first half, but I'm, I'm sad that the Bengals can't make the playoffs. I wish they just put them in the playoffs. Yeah. Cause they're not making the playoffs. I think I'm ready to officially say the Bengals are not going to make the playoffs. I'm going to look at the playoffs and when they come out, I'm going to think that the Bengals would be favored over like 70%. They might not be favored over them, but they would be the team. No one wants to play. Yeah 100% what is uh, yeah, they have to play The Steelers the cow. I mean they have to win every game. They have to win every game

Starting point is 01:59:11 They have to they have to they have to run the table They have to go six and oh down the stretch to finish 10 and 7 and have a chance to make the playoffs and they have To play the Steelers twice. So I Don't know how they're gonna win every game and the Broncos are in there as well I don't know how I've said we've also said the Broncos are in there as well. I don't know how I've said We've also said the same thing about the Bengals for I think the last five weeks but they keep losing games like this where they look their offense looks incredible and T Higgins was finally back and he was awesome and

Starting point is 01:59:35 They just put themselves in such a hole this season They say that one reporters tweet about how you can tell if T Higgins is gonna play It's based on how he goes up the hill to practice Oh how you can tell if T Higgins is going to play. It's based on how he goes up the hill to practice because the Bengals have to cross the street to get to their practice facility. And then there's a small hill that they have to go up. And I think when he doesn't, when he's not going to play that week, he walks up the hill and when he is going to play, he does like a little jog up it. Hey, Mike Brown, why wouldn't you just pay T Higgins and Jamar chase and because they're really fun to

Starting point is 02:00:05 watch in tandem and they're really, really hard to defend. Yeah, really, really hard to defend. I don't yeah, I just think he doesn't want to pay him. Yeah, no, I he's cheap. And it's got to be so frustrating for Bengals fans because this team, like you you're gonna look back at this season and it's going to be a season that you just, like, how do we blow this? How do we not make it to the playoffs?

Starting point is 02:00:28 We had it, you lost to the Patriots week one, you lost to the Ravens in two games where you could have easily won either of them. This game tonight, I think Evan McPherson makes a kick, and it's totally different. I think Mike Brown looks at his receivers, and he's like, I guess I have to pay one of you guys because you have to have one good receiver. But the more I pay my second receiver, that just means I'm going to have to pay my quarterback more in like six years.

Starting point is 02:00:53 Yeah. So I don't want to do that either. Also, I gave you guys the stat about Matt Eberfluss in one score games. Zach Taylor also not great in one score games. So he is 39% in one score games Which is third worst or second worst of active coaches is Dennis Allen was second But he's not an active coach anymore. By the way, Max Nick Sirianni is Second-best behind only Kevin O'Connell. These are from Stad hole in one score games. Pretty good. Great coach pretty good But how many of those are backdoor one score games? I don't know. Where you've got a two score game and then you take your foot off the gas.

Starting point is 02:01:29 Who? For Nick Cerviani? Yeah, I'm just saying. Yeah, yeah, true. It's a good point. You gotta think about it. You do have to think about it. Consider it a thought.

Starting point is 02:01:38 Okay. Thought. And how'd you process it? I don't know. By the way, thank you to everyone who bet with us on the TD parlay. We hit one. Decisive. Decisive. Next week, when we do our show on Thursday, we have to be decisive. Shout out that AWO told me you guys need to be decisive. When you don't, when you're not decisive, it's got a 0% chance of hitting. JK Dobbin, he was like an exclamation point

Starting point is 02:02:02 with the second touchdown. Yeah, they didn't even want him to score the first one. They ran three plays without him on the field. All right, so I heard some people saying that J.K. Dobbins should have gone down instead of scoring that last touchdown. I say to that person, you need a better understanding of the history of the Los Angeles Chargers. I'm okay. Like yes, Joe Burrow had 18 seconds left. There's a lot that can go wrong with a field goal in that.

Starting point is 02:02:22 Yeah, I'll take a chance with that. I'll take a chance with that Yeah, I'll take a chance with that for sure because especially I mean We know kicks kicks get blocked the Broncos last week That happens. Yep, that happens Okay, I have what it did it happened last week had no kicks get blocked kicks gets blocked They do sometimes they get blocked the Broncos against the Chiefs. Yeah, uh rollback question our H o B a C k.com Q zips Polos hoodies joggers shorts 20% off your purchase row back calm

Starting point is 02:02:54 promo code take Do we want to do a quick who can win the Super Bowl recap? Yeah, bills. I think it's bills. Chiefs Steelers Ravens Chargers Doesn't think the Chargers mean the you know, and you know, they can't we were arguing about this in the studio when the Chargers were up And then big cat was like safer show save the show Chargers Proceeded to blow charger they charged and then he was like I take it all back But now I'm back but but you know

Starting point is 02:03:23 I think in that that 30 minutes showed you everything that I was saying was correct in that yes, they're good team Yes, they have Harbaugh. Yeah, they have a good quarterback. Sure. They are not Not beating the Chiefs. They're not being the Steelers. They're not beating the Ravens. They're not beating the Lions They're probably not beating the Eagles They're not winning the Super Bowl. They they will make the playoffs. They might win a game in the playoffs. They will not win the Super Bowl. Still a good bet. If you want to, if you're going to cash out, that's 40 to one, 35 to one. We talked about it at 45 to one. They're down to 20 to one. But if you don't cash out, it's a bad bet. But that was good eyes. But you have to cash out. It was good

Starting point is 02:04:01 eyes. It was that part. That admit that part. part. Yeah kind of we talked about it at 45 to 1 They're down 20 to 1. Are you gonna cash out? I Think I Spot now where I don't think I can is I want them to win the super Then it's a bad bet I like very definite I have a 35 to 140 no no because the Chargers could win the Super Bowl And then when they do I'm gonna laugh in your face. I think it's a good. What do you have to do if they win the Super Bowl? Eat my eat a calm. I don't know. I think you have to get a back tattoo of a lightning bolt or a cat I like I'll get a lightning bolt tat

Starting point is 02:04:40 Like I'm talking Ben Affleck. No, I will get a back tattoo of a lightning bolt. It's a child big old this year Depends how much they win the Super Bowl by How boys they get a punch for every point? So how but what are we starting with one inch to win the Super Bowl? They have what that's it if they win the Super Bowl by one day. I'll get a one inch Charger or a blany bolt if they win by 20 20 inches 20 inches I think Hank you should have to buy the Boltman costume I need him to blow him out okay so chargers are not in the could win the Super Bowl according to Hank I I would also agree I think it's a

Starting point is 02:05:24 good bet if you cash out but they cannot win this match. Would you find it interesting that the two people who don't think the Chargers win Super Bowl with two people already cashed out the Chargers future that we place as a podcast together from camaraderie. Not me. That was because responsible gambling. Are you saying that you don't encourage response. I'm just saying that you guys both if you guys had stayed stay in course as a podcast I got to would you be thinking different? I guess Yeah, I don't like to give away money. I like to Actually have a chance to win it. Yes. Also, there's there's just too many cash out for a loss

Starting point is 02:05:55 You could have what about the court? I say K. Dobbins to plus, huh? Yeah Yeah cash out of that and bet the bangles whatever fuck you all right, well mean I was just and then in the NFC. I'm gonna say the Eagles and Lions Maybe the Cardinals I Don't know not 49ers can make a run. No. I don't think so I don't They could make a run. I could see them. I could see I could still see the Vikings No, I see I could still see the Vikings no I could get serious Falcons no no were you listening when we talked about the Falcons I can't rush the passer getting a crew we're getting to the real football time maybe the Packers we're

Starting point is 02:06:39 getting no Jordan love just throws picks. That stinks, he gets lucky. Okay, let's do Who's Back of the Week and wrap up the show. Good show, boys. Coors Light. Our friends at Coors Light, no matter what happens between your favorite rivals this week, you got a chance to win. Just go to the PMT Instagram and tell us how you prepare for a rivalry game with Coors Light. For an opportunity to win the Coors Light rivalry shirt, five winners will be selected every Saturday until December 7th. So remember when rivalries get a little overheated, choose chill and keep

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Starting point is 02:07:42 If they were allowed to play in it if they can get in if they could run The table they could win the Super Bowl if if yeah The NFL stepped in at the last second and said every team from the AFC has been disqualified Bengals You're our only hope then I would I would think that they could but then they'd lose Yeah, they would lose in a tragic fashion. Yeah. Yeah, I Feel bad for Bengals fans Same I mean that think about if you're yeah, I feel bad for Bengals fans. Same. I mean that think about if you're. Yeah, I feel bad for Bengals fans because that was like what?

Starting point is 02:08:09 Three years ago, Boroughhead, all that stuff. And they're playing well and it's like the Chiefs are playing bad but they're like, I feel like the Bengals have played better than the Chiefs have this whole season. The thing is, yeah, I'm not joking. Yeah. Ah, I mean, they've gotten they've gotten they've had some bad loss often to see when we think about like playing better We think about offense. Yeah, they're offense has even better in bad defense very bad chiefs defense is very good the tough part about being a Bengals fan is also that you

Starting point is 02:08:37 You know that you're not gonna go out and fix your needs and free agency. No No, you're gonna have to have feel bad like a great draft next year Yeah, I feel very bad cuz yeah, if you would talk to a Bengals fan after the 2021 season when they go to a Super Bowl, you're like this is gonna be awesome and This is the worst part about sports is like Joe burrow gets injured for a year You're gone. Mm-hmm defense is bad You know takes a huge step back and is bad the

Starting point is 02:09:05 year gone and it's just like you start doing the math in your head you're like fuck wait how are we three years down the road and we haven't been even like remotely back to it yeah but at times you look like you're back yeah play fun fun offense the other defense there they have not played better than the Chiefs this year take it back no I test my test all right who's back the week I'm in his back the week is Rory McElroy yes he won the race to Dubai yeah that he said that's what he was focusing on that's all he cares about prestigious race to Dubai it's his sixth race to Dubai he loves racing to Dubai he does it and wins

Starting point is 02:09:46 every year. It's the perfect tournament for him because we're all watching football and so he has no pressure and he if he chokes, no one would even know. Yeah, it was, it was actually like when I woke up this morning and opened my phone because it's Dubai. It was the first thing I saw. So no one even watched it either. No, it was like congrats to Roy for winning a race this morning. So was this in it was in Dubai? I don't know. I don't know if it's like one of those. Well, they race to it. Yeah, I think it's like, you know, like a horse race where they race across the desert. Yeah, it's like one of those where they start in one place and go

Starting point is 02:10:18 and end up in Dubai. I'm not sure. But he won the road to Dubai. Yeah. So now does he have to go to Dubai? I think he's I think he won it Yeah. So now does he have to go to Dubai? I think he, I think he won it there. So that's confusing. The road to Dubai is played in Dubai. Yeah. Well, no, the road to Dubai leads up to it. I think it's the race to Dubai. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:10:34 It's a race to Dubai. And then he leads up to what he won today. The DP world tour. What's this trophy is incredible. Look at this thing. That's why he's so focused on. Yeah. He loves it.

Starting point is 02:10:44 He's got six walking stick. It's a scepter. Why? Why is it created two trophies to hold up? Why six for this trophy is quite some quite some. Yeah. It's like Jordan. One more tie Brady. Yeah. Good for Rory. Best ever do it. Good for Rory. His home course. Yeah. Good for Rory. Best to ever do it. Good for Rory. Good for Rory. His home course. Yeah. Okay, PFT, your Who's Back of the Week? My Who's Back of the Week is the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Starting point is 02:11:13 Oh. Cavs are back. They played a, they put a graphic on the broadcast tonight. I'd like you guys to take a guess about this. Who do you think leads the NBA in wins? Player that has the most wins in the NBA since the year 2020? Who has the most wins in the NBA since the 2020? Yep, since the 2020 season. What player? It's gotta be Donovan Mitchell if you're asking that question. Yeah. No, it does not. It is the minivan george nyang. Oh that makes sense george. Yeah, 214

Starting point is 02:11:50 Nikola jokic Distance second with only 203 wins then tatum with 202 true holiday with 201 wins, huh? Weird stat good for him. I don't know how that works out. Good for him. And then also along those same lines, inside the NBA is back. Yeah. Because they've agreed to keep it running next year.

Starting point is 02:12:13 They're going to license it to ESPN. So it's not going off the air. I'm happy we did a whole year where we said that it was going to be gone forever and everyone got really upset. It's like, I remember at the end of last year when when we were everyone was pretending like it was done forever I was like wait, they have another year. They're gonna get it figured. Yeah, so they got a they got a victory lap and a goodbye tour You know, they did they did an obituary they did it they did a you know, they did a funeral for themselves That's gotta be regular season wins

Starting point is 02:12:42 It probably is regular season wins, but it didn't let's see what the graphics Yeah, it's gotta be regular season wins cuz he played on the Sixers That's not just are you still upset about that just as most player wins 2020 That's a crazy stack good for good for George yeah, he's our guy front of the program Yeah, I mean that makes sense and the Sixers get the one seed a couple years. Yeah, they were good Regular season regular season they were really good What are they good this year actually have a fun statue Jared McCain's really good Is this sad about the Celtics this was sent over from our stats guy Paul Jason Tatum traveled

Starting point is 02:13:22 He is is is Paul bald guy Paul Jason Tatum traveled he is is is Paul bald I've never seen I've never seen I'm never seen Paul Paul Paul Paul when you say stats what kind of stats are we talking about this is so he sent us is that you talking about the bar he likes to go to my stats you mean body count no the stat was that Paul said it was the 76ers are 11 games back 12 games into their season I Love the gas Gaz's clips of the show or so they crack me up every time he just takes every pro Hank Stan Yeah, he just says you're tell your he tweets a clip of Hank. It says tell your co-hosts like That's a good stat though, it's relevant good to the show. What do you think about that stat backs?

Starting point is 02:14:04 What is this that again? The Sixers are 11 games back 12 games into their season. How's that possible? How's that possible to do? Yeah, isn't that I? Don't know that's What are they 12 games back on to, two, three, four, dribble. He was doing like a... Oh wait was that the game winning buzzer beater 3 he had last night? Travel. Did you see the flagrant when Jalen Brown almost got us all in the back?

Starting point is 02:14:39 Travel. Also shout out to Julius Randall. It's no, it's, if, they cut it before this clip, one second before this club, Jaylen Brown almost got killed. Jason Tatum had to improvise, catch the game winning three. Who'd they beat? The Raptors. Got it.

Starting point is 02:14:53 Uh, Raptors are having a good year, right? They were playing good last night. It went to overtime. Um, all right. You would suck a dick to beat the Raptors. They're the same record as us. You'd still suck it. The, uh, all right, My Who's Back playoffs. I think the Raptors beat us earlier in the year. Oh,

Starting point is 02:15:11 shit. That's a good question, Hank. What'd you say? So remember when you guys played in the playoffs? Oh, I do remember that. Nope. That's when the process died. Uh, I wasn't, I didn't exist. I wasn't born yet. Um, no, he didn't exist on this show. He existed to me. Yeah, that's true All right. My who's back the week is being a national sports podcast because people really like that. So quick national sports podcast The Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight I Guess credits Jake Paul for not knocking out Mike Tyson and

Starting point is 02:15:42 We we said it before but this has been two decades of me buying I guess I didn't buy the fight because it was Netflix of watching Mike Tyson fights and being like well all it takes is one punch because he's iron Mike he had no chance of winning that Jake Paul took mercy on his soul which should never happen in a boxing match like you should not spend rounds taking mercy on your opponent but I'm happy he did I would have been no I get it no listen it was the right on your opponent. But I'm happy he did, because it would have been sad. No, I get it. No, listen, it was the right move for him to do. I'm just saying the entire setup of it.

Starting point is 02:16:09 Oh yeah. If you're talking about like, I always respect a guy in the UFC that clearly knocks his opponent out and doesn't go in for the kill shot and like try to kill him as he's on the ground unconscious. That's a cool thing to do. But if you're going to have a boxing match that is licensed as a boxing match, it should not be one guy taking his foot off the gas trying not to hurt his opponent. Counterpoint, Mike Tyson is 60 years old.

Starting point is 02:16:33 And he also got five transfusions of blood. He said he almost died over the summer. He couldn't move forward. I was fixated on his right knee and how it looked. No, he couldn't do anything. As a national podcast, we need to start the movement and take a stand because the worst part about that fight is that I think the takeaway was that it was a success. And it was not a shitty, shitty, shitty sporting that but because of the numbers and the viewership

Starting point is 02:16:58 and all that bullshit, they're going to be like, oh, we need to do more of this when it was so bad. Okay, so as a national sports podcast, I think we need, we need to bring back real fights. I think we should like John Jones, who's a beast national sports podcast. He's a beast. He's all the way back. I'll say something good about the fight. Um, one, it was very easy to find an illegal stream of it because Netflix just fucked up Netflix and they're doing Christmas games. They're, they're not ready. Netflix is not ready. I, I couldn't get it to load on my phone, on

Starting point is 02:17:28 my TV. It didn't work. It didn't work. But the good thing about what happened with that fight was after watching that shitty shitty match, I immediately went on YouTube and watched hours of good boxing matches. Yeah. I watched her and Tagler. I watched Castillo Corrales, two of them. Um, I watched all the Katie Taylor fights because she's fun to watch. Yeah, she is a dirty She's a dirty fighter, but in a good way we saw that first one. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I got a question as a national sports podcast in this circle of trust PFT Feel free to be honest and and we don't have to always am okay When I rode with you on the under six and a half rounds,

Starting point is 02:18:09 did you know there were two minute rounds? I did. Okay. Because when I turned on the fight, I was like, fuck, there's two minute rounds. National Sports Podcast. National Sports Podcast. I'm being completely honest.

Starting point is 02:18:20 Yeah. When I put the bed in, I did not know that there were two minute rounds. But. Were you gonna tell me when you told me to put the bed in I did not know that there were two minute rounds But you're gonna tell me you told me to put the bed But then I found out not long after I put the bed in and I started telling people I love this bet I found out there were two minute rounds and I was like I still really like this bet So I felt more I felt just as comfortable with two minute rounds. I wish I had known the two minute rounds I did not and when I when I turned it on when I appreciate your honesty

Starting point is 02:18:45 I'm that had pissed doesn't that piss you off even though it was whatever like the great thing dude He didn't knock him out. It's like people are gonna bet it is officially saying right. Oh, yeah This is me. Oh, yeah, of course, but I it was so apparent that Mike Tyson shouldn't have been in that ring Like I didn't want to see him get knocked out He's fucking it was elder abuse that third round was elder abuse That was the round where Jake Paul was like I'm gonna start unloading and Mike Tyson couldn't move and then for the rest of Fight he's like I'm just gonna and I think he obviously like there was a whole story that Jake Paul's dad Like was his Mike Tyson super fan and I don't know

Starting point is 02:19:21 Just let's stop doing it. Mike Tyson is done. He's been done for 20 years. He was washed 20 years ago This is stupid Jake Paul fight someone your own age, please. He did he lost. Yeah, he lost the only guy his own age That's right Also, what's ridiculous about this is that Mike Tyson said afterwards like it was it was an honor for my family in the crowd to Be able to watch me fight in a fight like this. Yeah, he wanted his family to see him get his ass kicked as a six-year-old man I don't get he wanted his family to see him be in a one last big fight And also he wanted to see his family cash 20 million dollars. That's true. That was the money's pretty good That was the part and there was a report that the fight was not going to be officially sanctioned at all

Starting point is 02:20:03 But then Jerry Jones wanted to make more money off of it yeah so Jerry Jones circumvented the Texas boxing commission or whatever called the governor and just said hey can can we just certify this fight is a legit fight yeah and it was done it should never have been a legit fight no it was that rules this this is this whole thing kind of agree with that like that's to have that kind of power. It's it's like old like Game of Thrones shit. Yeah. Yeah. They just showed Mike Mike Tyson using a cane to walk two years ago. Also his ass cheeks were very funny. That was that was

Starting point is 02:20:33 worth it alone. That was such a great clip. Also, the Serrano was a was a good yes. Yes. Serrano gets bang jobbed every time. Yeah. I mean credit to Jake Paul. He put a very good female fight right like that elevated it, but uh Yeah, we should stop with that Jake Paul fight someone your own age, please Also as a national sports podcast we shout out our guy Rick Patino because he tried to he silenced the crowd at MSG today Because he was beating his son Coach in New Mexico and the crowd started chanting. Who's your daddy? Mm-hmm, and he was beating his son coach in New Mexico and the crowd started chanting who's your daddy and he was like please stop. Let's keep it classy guys.

Starting point is 02:21:10 Keep it classy. And as a national sports podcast I just want to say I don't know if you guys have seen Marcus Johnson on Bowling Green but he's he might be better than DJ Burns. He's a big man who shoots threes and he's fucking awesome. He looks so Smooth doing so smooth. Did you guys see him? No, here we go. He is he's a tank He's a tank and he just whaps threes and he like he he has handle he put he put 26 I think on Michigan State at Michigan State. It was awesome to watch

Starting point is 02:21:42 So we need to get Bowling Green Bengals into the playoffs Bowling Green in the tournament because he's he's got it he's doing everything he's just a nice smooth big man left right whatever you need three-pointers in the in the paint he can do it all what was his stat line for this game because I realized we also just only are watching his makes like that would be really funny if he was 10 for like 28. That's fine. The misses don't don't matter No, that one part of the highlight cut away before the ball even got to the basket. I'm probably a miss Yeah, but he's as a national sports podcast. We need to

Starting point is 02:22:19 Say Marcus Johnson. He's awesome I always love that when they show like either hockey compilations or soccer where something cool happens and then it just stops. Oh no he's 9 for 24. Oh god. Well the highlight tape was cool. 9 for 24 is 1 for 11 from 3. He was 1 for 11 from 3. We saw his 1 made 3. He's the Spice Adams guy. Oh my god that's incredible. Oh that's so good. I don't regret a single thing I said. No actually you know what? Spin it the other way. Just have him stop shooting 3's because if he didn't shoot any 3's he would have been 8 for 13 in the game. He was smooth. Now let the man shoot. One for 11 from three is hilarious.

Starting point is 02:23:06 And then to have a highlight tape of him hitting one three that was just so wet. And you're like, Oh man, he's a lethal three point shooter. National sports podcast. A vet skins now 29 away from the record. Oh, he's unhuman. That is a big thing. He's got 11 goals in the last 10 games. By the way, he did. He, he, he's not a terrible three point shooter. He went five for 10, two for five, five or six in his other three games. So national sports podcast Maybe he should keep shooting three was the score of the game. They only lost like six so also wrong what they lost by

Starting point is 02:23:38 14 That was close. So we had to shoot that was close. It was pretty close. Yeah where He's where's he been? Where do you play before this? Was close so we had to shoot that was close. That's pretty close. Yeah where He's where's he been? Where do you play before this? Has he been on bowling green? You find that they also have losses to Southern Miss and Davidson So it's not like the Taylor Trotty still was awesome. That highlight tape was sick. Where has he been playing before? Do you sound like a local or something? You don't think this is you think we're no longer national sports podcast. It sounds like a

Starting point is 02:24:16 beat reporter covering their local team. Big man balling is national sports podcasting news. You know that. Come on. Got a way Taylor's an NAIA team That's the only one that they have the nation one. Oh, he was he wants winner. He was a division two player last year. So The Nate Marcus Johnson is a winner. I don't know if you just take out the win I don't know if we want winners. We want big dudes. Yeah and move doing cool shit one Big boy grilling on the roof. That's what the nation wants one for 11 from three is so funny That highlight tape had me like he was a lottery pick after I watched that highlight tape

Starting point is 02:24:56 Alright that was good national sports podcasting, uh, okay national sports podcast WNBA draft happened or the lottery happened Yeah, who ended up winning? I know the sky got the third pick National Sports Podcast Dallas Dallas Okay, that's your national sports podcast update. Let's do numbers 312 1177 Oh Me 85 Well, this Mike wasn't on 99 pug

Starting point is 02:25:26 Shane Shane 73 that was Jack Shane Give us the number and also chargers 21. What about him? Just you know what about a win? Yeah, great win not the chargers anymore not the charge that was a game They lose a hundred times out of a hundred daily would have lost that by 30. Yeah, every coach of yours ever would have lost that hardball Love you guys So So So so So

Starting point is 02:27:42 Thanks for watching!

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