Pardon My Take - NFL Week 12, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bengals Big Win, Broncos Hit Rock Bottom Plus Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

We start with fastest 2 minutes (00:02:48-00:12:12) then recap every game from Sunday. Bengals 20, Titans 16 (00:12:12-00:22:26) Commanders 19, Falcons 13 (00:22:26-00:31:56) Browns 23, Bucs 17 (00:31:56-00:43:29) Jaguars 28, Ravens 27 (00:43:29-00:51:53) Jets 31, Bears 10 (00:51:53-01:00:57) Panthers 23, Broncos 10 (01:00:57-01:16:42) Dolphins 30, Texans 15 (01:16:42-01:29:09) Chiefs 26, Rams 10 (01:29:09-01:34:50) 49ers 13, Saints 0 (01:34:50-01:44:20) Chargers 25, Cardinals 24 (01:44:20-01:47:22) Raiders 40, Seahawks 34 (01:47:22-01:51:10) We talk a little Thanksgiving football (01:51:10-01:59:34). Football guy of the week (01:59:34-02:04:26) and who's back of the week (02:04:26-.02:25:36).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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on the bottles and cans turn blue when it is cold and it's always cold when you're drinking Coors Light. Today is Monday, November 28, week 12. We started Nashville where ABCDEFGHIJK QRST. Higgins spelled it out for the Bengals with a monster day. Iron Hayden Hearst had the titans saying run to the hills as he and Samajie P. Rhyme of the ancient mariner laid the metal down in Tennessee. Tracked or CEDO. What's that in his tailpipe? It looks like a burrito as the Bengals defense were able to slow down Derek Henry all afternoon long. Bengals 20, Titan 16. In Duval, where the game was delayed by 30 minutes due to lightning, which is something that would never happen in the glorious kingdom of Qatar. Praise be to the Amir. Travis Entemens went out

making way for Jamaica Pastry and Trevor Lawrence tried to find him on a croissant route over the middle saying do not, do not, do not even try to tackle him. Nailed it, boom. Stop me if you've heard this before. But the Ravens blew a fourth corner lead as they couldn't keep up with the Joneses after Marvin and Zay scored a touchdown two point conversion to win the game. Now we are all jagging off Jaguars 28. The Ravens 27. In soggy metal lands, the prices white for the Jets as Zach Wilson passed the buck on blame for the offensive woes last week, leaving Mike to save the Jets playoff chances from the cliffhanger. Trevor Sibian looks shaky in the Bears offense as Chicago wasn't able to score often. And as for their former starting quarterback, Jets fans

are back thinking he's the worst one. So I must inquire Wilson, can you still get it done? Oh, Wilson, can you still get it done? Jets 31, Bears 10. We head down to Miami where, so no one told you life was gonna be this way. You won a nine and one and you're looking forward to draft day. At least you've still got Damion Pierce and Derek Stingley too. He's looking pretty fair. So Kyle be there for you. When Allen starts to throw, Kyle be there for you. And love he's gonna go. Kyle be there for you. Kyle there for me too. 12 and 30. My good friends, the touchdowns 15. In Carolina where it's become dangerous for Broncos fans health to watch his team play football. What's that sound?

It's Trey Wingo screaming, Oh God, please don't let the invisible fire burn my friend. As Sam Donnell did his best Ricky Bobby impression rolling into the end zone for a touchdown. Tempers flared on the sidelines as this entire season has been a Mike Purse cell phone for Russell Wilson. Panthers 23. Broncos 10. Which one did I say? Cell phone. That's Mike Purse cell phone. That's the bird we keep in the studio boom. He just learns how to whoop and how to carry on and he does the noises that we make. We head up the coast to Rall John for a wet one, but the commanders had their Admiral Brian David Robinson to steer the ship. In a touching tribute to Will Compton, the Washington commanders unveiled

completely a mobile statue without any legs, arms or heart before the game. Kendall was feeling fuller, much like all you fat asses that couldn't stop beating this past weekend. And let me be the last to wish you all a very happy Thanksgiving. The Washington commanders 19 the Falcon starting in Kansas City where the game started with Sean McVay getting jacked up. They don't take hits like that in the announces booth boom in an attempt to carry the hell on with their season. The Rams have turned to Bryce Kendrick Perkins through the foghorn of the chiefs roster turned over. I say, I say a Pacheco has emerged as a featured back in any reads offense, which means he's not featured at all. The chiefs defense showed up in the fourth as chiefs fans said Nick Cannon Bolton is

luxurious daddy as both defensive players came away with an interception. Chiefs 26 Rams 10. All the real ones from like 2006 are going to get that one in Seattle. DK have a four way put up a flame broiled 90 burger was overshadowed by Josh Jacobs. Grab a brush and put a little makeup and his system of a first down turning the Seahawks defense into chop suey. Foster the people morrow scored as the Raiders outran the overtime gun and drew Glock's coin toss prediction avoiding a tie for the second straight week. Don't look now, but the are hot. The Raiders 40, the Seahawks 30. Standing on the corner, James Winston down and Nola such a fine sight to see.

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least three games play. Yeah. Joe Burrow is now three and oh against the three and oh against the Tennessee Titans. That's a trend and the streak is officially over. So the Tennessee Titans lost a game. Yes in which Derek Henry had one reception. Was it his only reception the one that he fumbled? Let me look that up. It might be because that would be a great asterisk. No, he had another one. Okay. So yeah, we were all thinking that they were going to win because he did get that one reception. But it just turns out that the tight the Bengals defense in the second half, it's just legit eight out of 11 games this year. The Bengals defense has not allowed a touchdown. They have gone so outside of the Browns game, which they just got worked, they can't beat the Browns

for whatever reason. And then the Panthers game, which was a blowout and they just played, you know, prevent and let them come score some points the second half. If you count every other game, so take those two games out, the Bengals are allowing 4.7 points in the second half in the entire season. That's pretty crazy. They just every, every half time they go in and they make an adjustment and they're like, all right, now we're just going to shut them down. And the Bengals win this game with no Jamar Chase, no Joe Mixon, T Higgins looking like a superstar. I'm happy for T Higgins because like everyone talks about Jamar Chase rightfully. So is he the best number two receiver in the league? T Higgins is pretty fucking good. Oh, Jake with a big, big, no, no,

no bottle. Oh, no, I don't know, Jake, because I feel like they've got two number one receivers. That's good. Yeah, that's fair. I'm saying I'm talking about like he's a true number two receiver and also does is like Tyreco real number one, because is he tall enough? Well, you really need a tall guy to be your number one. Tyre kill is kind of one of those gadget guys. Yeah, right. He's more like a really, he's like the best number three ever. Yeah, he's like, yeah, the goat number three. So yeah, Waddle's Waddle's a better number one. But T Higgins is probably the best number two. He was awesome. And it does feel like, you know, he doesn't get any of the pub that Jamar Chase does because Jamar Chase is so incredible, but to have Jamar Chase be out for an extended

stretch and Joe Burrow needed T Higgins today and relied on him and he made an incredible touchdown catch. He had over 100 yards. The Bengals are just I'm mad at myself. Because I just I know that I bet the wrong. And this is recency bias, but I shouldn't have I should have just put a future on the Bengals, not the Ravens. Because I think the Bengals are, I think the Bengals are going to do what they did last year and they'll be more fun to root for us. Yes. The Ravens will be just they'll make you want to tear your hair out. I'm just going to end up with the end of the season with a future on every NFL team. I want to I want to give credit to just the conditioning of the Bengals because I feel like a lot of times you can say, oh,

they're so good in the second half, they make great adjustments and they out coach the other team, which they probably do. What if they're just like in much better shape than other teams? Yeah, what if they just run more during practice? That's what our coaches used to always say, like, you want to be a second half team? Okay, we'll stick around because we're going to run for a half hour after practice. I wonder if the Bengals do just like more running. That might be a very dumb, basic way of looking at the same. But it'd be very funny to see like what they do differently that makes them so much better than the second half, whether it is like, okay, they do weird like they all work out like they're James Harrison. No, you just assume

in college and pro that like all the teams have the same conditioning, but then you will watch a team and be like, wait, they just they're stronger in the fourth quarter. Something is right. Like the member that skyline chili gives you super powers. Skyline chili. The there was there was a big story about when Kirby smart stole Nick Saban's, what do you call it? Fuck, my brain is so much right now conditioning play conditioning. Yeah, yeah, his coach, the conditioning coach, yeah, strength and conditioning coach. And it was like, this guy is the most important guy in any major college football program, because he is with the players more than anyone else. Now, obviously, they don't do strength and conditioning the same way in the NFL. But

there are certain teams that I bet you they just do it better. And they have guys that are in better shape and can, you know, run longer and not tire at the end of games. And maybe the Bengals are that team over the Bengals are just doing like suicides every day at the end of practice. Yeah, whatever the cheap version is, they're doing like that. That's what I'm saying. All you need for that is a field with 100 yards worth of lines on it. I think they can handle that. That would actually be funny. If the Bengals, the only I think the only team like in the world that doesn't have an indoor practice facility just has like a basketball court that they make them run suicides actually, it's kind of like the training montage in Rocky, where everybody else is hooked up to

like ventilators monitoring their VO two max. And meanwhile, the Bengals are just so cheap that they're like, okay, go out into this river and then swim out there and catch a fish with your bare teeth and bring it back to Kentucky and back. Yeah, that's our entire strength. Touch the state line. Yes. Yes. Back and forth. But yeah, the Bengals, they're just going to do it again. I really and they have the game against the Chiefs next week, which if they win that game, like, I think that's when everyone's going to be like, oh, shit, here come the Bengals again. And I don't really think less of the Titans. It's more that the Titans are a well coached team that has certain limitations and like they have to almost

play a perfect game to beat a team like the Bengals and they didn't, they played a little less than perfect today. Yeah. I mean, Derek Henry had a pretty bad day today. The Bengals defense was awesome. The Bengals defense was awesome. DJ Reader was incredible at defensive tackle. And then Mike Hilton, they're running backwards, also tackling Derek Henry. And he's about my size. They're not running back. There's a quarterback. Yeah, yeah, they're a quarterback. He's like five, eight, five, nine, 180 pounds. He was just like grabbing a leg turns out to tackle Derek Henry. You don't have to hit all of Derek Henry. You just have to hit one leg and just hold on for dear life. You have to just give him like a flat tire on his shoes. Yeah,

if you can just like grab onto his onto his leg like a like a four year old grabbing onto their dad walking through the living room, then that should be enough to at least like delaying. And then after the game, he was like, he said, we are who we thought we were, which is like a nice little twist on it. Also very difficult if you're conjugating verbs to make sure that's correct. But I think I think the Bengals never wavered in their confidence in themselves. It was just everybody else being like, Oh, it's the Bengals. They might go back to being the Bengals of old. But no, I think that it's essentially the same team as last year. Well, same same coaching, most the same players. So they're still going to be pretty good. And they're and they're running

the ball. Like it feels like they're running the ball well, and they have that element to their office. They're doing it all without Jamar Chase, who when he comes back and now you have to worry about a go route just beating you at any moment that changes how every defense has to play them. But yeah, the, I liked also Joe Burrow after the game said, when the going gets tough, I'm going to go to the guys that make plays and T is that guy talking about T Higgins and basically saying good teams or great teams win games like this where you go in and it's a slug fast because it was, it was always a one possession game. No team was able to get away from the other. And the, and the Titans, like they make those little mistakes. They made the mistake where they,

they roughed the kicker and they could have had the, could have a chance to get the ball back with like two minutes left. And then the game just ends with them kneeling it down. If you're a Titans fan, you kind of know that you're going to, you're going to win that division again. You're going to make the playoffs and you've kind of, I would imagine resign yourself to the fact that you're not going to go anywhere in the playoffs, right? At this point, you understand that your team's too flawed. You just have to, you have to start hanging your hat on the back to back to back division champions at this point. You're like, that's pretty impressive. We're the division champions. No one can beat us. We've repeated it. This is our place

until someone takes our crown. That's, that's what you have to take pride in. I feel like you're, if you're a, if you're a Titans fan, I think you're telling yourself, if someone maybe knocks off like the chiefs and then we have one perfect game against the bills, like you could, the way the Titans play football is they make every game just so miserable for the other team that you could, no one, no Titans fans like, oh yeah, we're going to win the Super Bowl, but in a weird way, their style of play is like, yeah, we could just ruin everyone else that we play and maybe we just play like three just terrible games to watch and find a way to win them. Yeah. They're, they're just constant spoilers. Yeah. That's your best thing is just

be a spoiler out there every week. And if you can get to a place, you have a couple of these weeks every season too. If you're a Titans fan, where you get to play the nobody in the media ever talks about us card, when you get pissed off, like legitimately mad at the media for not showing you guys enough respect, that's like your Super Bowl right there. So all you have to do, yeah, just, just play good enough to be able to get mad at us for not talking about you guys. This actually was the battle of those teams. Yeah. Angle's fans and Titans fans are like, who can, the winner of this game is it basically just went directly on Twitter and like, will you please just shut up about the Titans? Yeah. But Titans wanted to be like,

will you shut up about the Bengals? We beat them. Like that was, that was the result of this game. Yep. Okay. Oh, Trent Taylor. Another one catch. Who's who is a confirmed AWOL. Oh, absolutely. Good friends with our good friend, George Kittle. Shout out Trent. You're listening right now. What's up, dude? One catch, one target, eight yards, another triple single for Trent. Nice. Hell yes. He is. He's in our hall of fame. Yes. Yes. The part of my take hall of fame, the triple single king, the one, one, one, one is all you need. We need to make one of those graphics like the Tony snow. Yeah. Graphic for just Trent Taylor's receiving line every single game. Yeah. So shout out Trent. What's up, dude? Keep your eyes on the road. You also did a sweet

backflip today. Yeah. Well, they were in victory. Yes, that was cool. That was that was pretty cool. You hardly ever see that. Is he related to Zach Taylor's that how he got the job on the team? Probably. Yeah. Nepotism. Yeah. I think that is. I think that's Zach Taylor's cousin. Yeah. So he's like, that's just why he's on the team. Yeah. And getting one catch for one yard doing backflips. Yeah. Put them in for the backflip victory formation. Okay. Next up commanders, 19 Falcons 13. The commanders steal one from the Falcons because it looked like the Falcons were going to win the game and the commanders now continue their march towards possibly the playoffs. We're in the playoffs right now. This was a big game. This is my official moment to say

if the season ends today, which you never know, Putin's up to stuff, we would be in the playoffs. Yeah. Incredible. We made it. Congratulations. Very happy with the outcome of the game today. There was some stuff before the game that I feel like we should talk about a little bit because I had this I had this conversation with with everybody here last year, the first time that we fucked up Sean Taylor. And the gist of my feelings at that point were Sean Taylor was a person. He wasn't a marketing event. Right. He wasn't something that you use to sell merchandise. He was a man that died protecting his family and his house when he got murdered. And he meant a lot of things to a lot of people. Myself, of course, is my favorite football player

of all time. So for the second straight year, they managed to fuck up Sean Taylor Memorial Day. Wait, what? That's got to be a record, right? They fucked it up last year, so why they had to fix it right with like a statue or something. This is screwing up the makeup. So on their on the team website, they called it like the memorial event and the memorial setup that they had. It was the memorial installation is what they said. They did also call it a statue on one part of their website before the event happened. Typically, I don't know how familiar you are with statues. Statues generally have faces and heads and bodies and body parts. But remember the Ronaldo statue? Maybe they were trying to avoid that.

You can't fuck it up if you don't actually have a statue. Yeah. Isn't it like art too? There's some subjection to it. Yeah, it's in the in the eye of the beholder. Well, for people who didn't see it, it is essentially like the commanders went to sports authority and they're like, oh, you guys are going out of business. Let me get one of your Under Armour mannequins and I'll put them in the stadium and we'll put a Sean Taylor jersey on. Yeah. And tell you what we'll do is we'll give him a Nike jersey, which he never played in, Reebok Reebok pants and then Adidas shoes. Oh, perpetrator. And then Haynes socks. He was perpetrated. Damn. Big time. It was it was really strange to say the least. There was some other stuff that they had there that was pretty cool

that like his family had designed. Like I know his daughter was involved with making some of the designs, which was cool. And there's like Memorial Fund. I get that it was awesome. But so he did something right. Well, I'm looking forward to them really nailing it on year three. It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. I respect it. It's now become kind of a kind of a cool like, hey, how will how will they fuck this up? Let's see. Let's see new brand new ways that you can absolutely destroy Memorial days for maybe maybe the best player that I've ever seen play football. Yeah. That all that out of the way. There was also a big hat today. Yes, which was Brian Robinson, Jr. Brian Robinson, Jr. wearing the big hat after he had a great game.

He broke 100 yards was just just smashing people up, running into faces. Wait, so hold on. They they ran the ball all over the Falcons and the Falcons still haven't signed Will Compton. Yeah. Hmm. Seems like they could use a guy like that. Some people plug some holes. Some people are saying that Will Compton just didn't show up for this game because he was he was scared of the commanders. Sounds like they could use a big belly man to just jump into some holes. Yeah, I mean, if Will had been there today, I think you'd see a much different outcome. Yeah, no, Will would have stopped this personally. I'm happening. I'm actually not counting this loss on the Falcons. This is a Will Compton loss. Oh, wow. Yeah, personally, Will Compton, 0-1 on the

year. I'm going to count it as a Will Compton win because the Falcons realized, holy shit, we really need Will Compton. Year 10 has to happen now. So there's a glaring need. He is coming back, right? He did a video and everything. I think so. Maybe. Possibly. What are you saying? What are you looking at? No, I don't he made the video saying he's back and then he does not. I think from the little I've talked to him, I don't want to talk out of school here, but I'll just say this. I think people are trying to stop Will Compton from having year 10. Goodell. He wants to get into year 10. He is ready to go. My guy is in shape. Best shape of his life. Never looked better. He actually looks like a Nebraska Will Compton. That's the pop he has right now. And the NFL is like, no, no, no,

we can't have a guy like you who's so incredibly gifted, both on and off the field, playing in the NFL anymore. And that's all I'll say about that. It's sad that they're free Will Compton. Free Willy. Yeah, the commies are six and one. No, not actually, because he's not seen his. We've seen him in his boxers. The commies are six and one in their last seven, which is that's that happened all of a sudden. I mean, Taylor Honeke, all he does is win. He didn't even play good today. No, he played okay. He made some good throws. He wasn't good. There was there was one part of the game, I think, where he went 0 for 6. Besides that, you know, really bad interception. Besides he had a bad. Well, it was like across the field. He was a little bit slower.

It wasn't a pick six. No, I'm saying I'm saying there's a comment to Taylor Honeke. He did not have his best game and they still found a way to win. And like, that's just what something about Taylor Honeke, all he does is win. Yeah. He's listen, Taylor Honeke at this point has proven, I think that he's a good quarterback. I'm getting close to the point where I'm just ready to I'm dangerously close to saying he's the guy. I'm very close. He was 14 for 23 for 138 yards. I wouldn't say that was great. It wasn't great, but I'm I'm still thinking. Yeah, no, he was so he's so cheap at the quarterback position. He's going around him. Yeah, he's going to continue to be cheap. Why not? I wins football. Why not just

build around him? He wins football games. Somebody I don't want anybody to talk me out of him being the guy just yet because it's even it feels good to maybe think possibly he might be doing all year. And you're like, I want that. Well, no, I mean, he's not he's not that Justin Fields is that dude. Yeah. No, we'll tell him how to keep it could be the guy, which is like a step below that dude. He and also we should say that he possibly could have played not his best because he looked like he injured his elbow. And it was one of those moments is like on a handoff is very weird. And I think there can't be a scarier moment like when a when a starter gets hurt, every fan goes through, holy shit, our seat is over. The fact that the backup almost gets hurt.

And you're like, holy shit, we have to watch Carson Wentz again. Yeah, it's a it's a wild like I actually turned you. I was like, I don't want to see Carson Wentz in this game. No one wants to see Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz didn't want to be in that game. It's more significant than like Patrick Holmes getting hurt because the world does not want to see Carson Wentz play football anymore. Taylor Heineke is the one who's holding he's holding this together. He is he is the the Carson Wentz stopper. So he has to stay healthy because Carson Wentz was going to get into the game, probably do something stupid. I would get mad at Carson Wentz. But then I would feel bad about being mad at Carson Wentz because he's just so sad. So yeah, I didn't I didn't want

to see that either. I think he had a funny bone thing. Whatever it was, he got better at the end or defense. Ben, but don't break the defense line is still really good. Even without Chase Young. Again, he he was not being a cheerleader this time. I think he was sick. So they didn't have him play in the game. But he's been activated. But he's been activated. He's officially activated. Okay, I I really believe in this defense. They're doing something special there. The offense has been just good enough playing safe enough football and Taylor Heineke. You know, he does he makes throws when it counts. Yeah, when you need one, he's got you. He's got it's like all that extra. He's got none of the bells and all the whistles and all that stuff. But he's like a he's like a solid

like 1997 Honda Civic. Never break down, get your point A to point B all the time. No problem. That's true. You when you when you need a big like third down conversion, it feels like Taylor Heineke will either get it for you or figure out a way to get a flag for you. Yeah, something's going to happen to get you that first down. Yeah, as long as he doesn't explode or like steer off the road, which he has tendency to do from time to time. But the numbers don't lie factor fiction. The commies are six and one the last seven. Yeah. Taylor Heineke is five and one is the starter this year. Black and red. Great combination to get a new pair of Jorns too. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's like the whole world's open. Is he going to get all black? Do you think

like the black with the red highlights on it? You can go either way. That would look hard. Yeah, the Falcons, I don't know what to I mean, they're just it feels like every chance they have to possibly take a step forward to maybe finding a way to win the NFC South. They just go backwards. I think this entire division is destined to finish with the exact same amount of wins because now you have the Bucks at five and six, the Falcons at five and seven. The Panthers now have four wins. So they're four and eight and the Saints are four and eight. Yeah. So they're all just right there. They're right there. No one's out of it. And at this point, every NFC East team would be in the playoffs, which is it's crazy to say that's a good and a bad thing. You mentioned

the Bucks still being alive. This would put the Cowboys and the Bucks matching up in the first round of the playoffs right now. Tom Brady has never lost to the Cowboys. Wow. And it would also put myself facing off against Kirk Cousins. Oh, that would be tough, which would be that would not be fun for you. It would not. Okay. Speaking of, let's do Brown's Bucks before we do that. Game time, game time is a ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets to sports concerts and shows and they guarantee the lowest price. If you haven't given game time a shot yet, don't know what you're waiting for. You guys are going to love this app. We can use it in game time all year, but go into games. If you want to go to an NFL game, Army Navy's coming

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team. They're, I would say they're like, they, they, they basically go from a slightly below average to slightly above average on any given Sunday. But this game, if you're a Bucks fan, and we know Steven Shea who will not do this, so I'll do it for him. This game is 100% on Todd Bowles. He coached like a fucking coward. He doesn't know who his quarterback is. The Bucks should have won this game. They gave it to the Browns. No, no disrespect to the Browns because I'm happy for Jacoby Berset, but the Bucks handed this game away and they did it three different times. I'll take you through them. The first time, it's the fourth quarter. It was $17.10. It's fourth and two from the Cleveland 37 PFT, the Cleveland 37, fourth and two, 17, 10, fourth quarter. Go get a first

down, get a, you know, get a first down, get a field goal, make it a 10 point game, make it so the Browns cannot come back. What does he do? He takes a delay of game and he punts into the end zone for what? A 22 yard net punt. Like the, I haven't seen David Shaw who just, who just retired and walked away from Stanford. That's a David Shaw special. 37 yard line. 37 yard line, you punt. Next time, $6.59. Same score. The game was basically $17.10 for the entire second half and the Bucks were like, Hey, let's just hopefully we can punt our way to winning this game. $6.59 left, fourth and three from the Cleveland 48. You have Tom Brady as your quarterback. They punt. And then the last one, which I still like, I don't understand whatsoever you have. Again,

Tom Brady is your quarterback. I'm pretty sure that guy's had a bunch of comebacks and can get a team down the field pretty quickly. 32 seconds left. Tie game. You have all three timeouts and he runs a screen play and doesn't use the timeout. Then Tom Brady throws it to Julio Jones to midfield and then he uses the timeout. There's eight seconds left. There's nothing you can do. I don't understand. This is where you miss Bruce Arians because Bruce Arians love them or hate them. He was a big time fuck it guy. Yes. You need a fuck it guy sometimes. You can't you don't really win big games without having a guy that's not afraid to just get ridiculed by everybody for having something blow up in his face. It's it's Bruce Arians was

absolutely 100% that guy. He loved to do fuck shit out there. Todd Bowles just he is so stupid. He's so conservative when it comes to these play calls. The the touch back that you mentioned, I think that was the first one. Yeah, that was it was it was ridiculous if it's fourth and two on the 30. Why are you why are you trying to draw them off off sides like Tom Brady probably without looking at it. I would imagine that on fourth and two plays Tom Brady is probably in the 60 to 80 percentile when it comes to converting those over the course of his career. And I guess Todd Bowles is just like I don't know maybe he's just used to coaching quarterbacks on the Jets that just aren't able to do those sorts of things. You're right. He

forgets who his quarterback is sometimes. Yeah. And this was the first time that Tom Brady in so he's 218 and oh besides this game when he's up by seven or more points in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter. Now he's 218 and one. It's crazy. They just they they essentially were like 1710. We're good. We don't need to score any more points. We don't need to try to win this game. Todd Bowles like and I don't know how it all broke down how Tom Brady ended up being getting Todd Bowles is the head coach like we we we think that maybe he and Bruce Arians had a falling out and if they did that was a big mistake. That was a FDX level mistake by him because now you got a guy and Byron Leff which deserves some blame too because they their play calling is so

conservative and you have Tom Brady as your as your fucking quarterback. Like that was such a winnable game that they just completely pissed away. And again no disrespect to Jacob. You're set to I'm happy who we got hit. You know a win on his final start because Shum Watson's coming back the catch that Nijoku made was insane. But it was like watching one of those games where you were just like how long are the Bucks planning on punting and hoping that they can stop the Browns. Eventually the Browns will put together a drive here and eventually they did. Both teams kind of played the same formula where neither team felt like they wanted to win this game. So they just kept like like being more conservative than the last punting back and forth back and forth back

and forth. It's funny you mentioned the crypto thing because Bruce Arians is probably most like crypto. Yeah. He's either you're either on the moon or you're just like calling your family to apologize. What are we doing here. Like sorry for making everybody do this last Thanksgiving. Yes. And then and then Todd Bulls is basically like 10 years of a bond. Yeah. He's he's he's getting he's just putting your money away in a nice safe mattress. Yeah. Yeah. Under your mattress or you're going to be like you know what is it your IRA. Is that it. Yeah. The Roth IRA Roth IRA. Sure. We were not financial consultants here. But yeah. It's he is. He's basically like you know what I'm going to earn two percent oh point oh two percent on all my money forever. Yeah. But it's

not I'll be fine. It's not going anywhere. It's never going anywhere. But he's he's always going to be hovering around like six and 11. Yeah. It's just he's a bad coach and I don't understand how he doesn't get all that like that. I know that we I think now you're going to start seeing it. I think he's got to pass because this is he's still like relatively new in this position. But as much as this season has gone past you can now look at the body work and be like yeah he's he's definitely costing them points. Maybe he just thinks that his defense is that good where his motto is like maybe he thinks he's coaching the Broncos is like if I just get 17 points then we should win every game that we're at. It's crazy. I that game was so maddening

because if you're a player too like I can't believe Tom Brady isn't like hey dude I'm Tom Brady like what are we doing here. Let's fucking let's go for it on fourth and two on the 37. He could probably quarterback sneak. I bet you most of Tom Brady's QB sneaks end up being two yards long. Yeah. He gets he's that automatic at him. It's crazy. So yeah that was a totally like just when you think the Bucks might have turned a corner. They win a couple games in a row. They have this. I also there's no stat behind this. I just watching NFL football every Sunday. Mike Evans leads the league in balls that are very close to his hands that he doesn't actually extend for. Oh yeah. I just feel like every every Sunday I watch him and I'm not trying to say that he's a

great receiver but it feels like every Sunday there's at least three or four times and maybe it's they're just not on the same page. There'll be a pass that from from where I'm sitting so maybe the angle is wrong. I'm like he maybe could have caught that if he had like extended or dove for it and he just doesn't even attempt for it. Well he does have like super long arms. He had that a couple times today and like Steven Shea was just like well he didn't see the ball. It's like really. That's I mean it's a big part of the job. That would be like number one thing of his job is track the ball. Yeah. So the Browns end up at four and seven without the Sean Watson at the start of the season. If you were to say they end up four and seven I think most people would say

yeah that's probably exactly what I thought they would be and but they still have to just they're going to kill themselves for that that Jetsk game because that's that's one of those ones where it's like four and the difference between four and seven and five and six big is like a hundred. I think that's the biggest gap between a one game. It's crazy that there can be five and six. You're ready to go five and six to Sean gets there and you're going to the play you're thinking yeah I'm going to make the playoffs but yeah I guess that's exactly what you bargained for when you got to go be percent. Yeah. Yeah. And I like to go be percent. I think he definitely earned himself a backup role for a very long time because there was moments where it's like ooh

go be percent. Things are looking OK. And there was you had a hell of a block today out in the open field too. Yeah he did. He's a big boy. I don't like the Browns all brown uniforms. The neon browns. I don't like them. It just looks like a cheap suit. It's funny when you when you think of the color brown you don't really think of color rush right as much and they tried to do a color rush which I still I don't know it's so brown. It's you must admit that it's a lot as far as Browns go it's like it's pretty brown. I just like the Browns jerseys like their classic jerseys. I think they're some of the best jerseys in the NFL. Yeah. And so when they do the color rush like I don't know. I still think that the Browns they've they've had so many heartbreaking

moments on that field when the elf is that midfield. Yeah. You got to start. I know you just put it in this year but you got to sometimes read the signs from the gods. Yeah. And it's like OK maybe. Well I guess today they had it and it ended up working out for him. But I don't know. I just I still get bad vibes. I get like creepy Halloween stabby doll vibes. Yeah. From every time you see it. Yeah. There was a car on the field this week. There was a car. Yeah. What do you mean. On the Browns but you guys didn't see this. No. No. There was a car that broke into the stadium. Oh my god. And that's so Cleveland and did donuts on the field. Yeah. That kind of rocks. OK. I like that. Yeah. That guy rules. That seems like. Yeah. That's that's a cool guy move. That was also

that guy probably was just like really amped up for Ohio State Michigan. And you see like the whole week was just a lot. Do we know what kind of car it was. I can look into it more. I would speculate a Thunderbird. It feels like a Thunderbird move. It could just be like a like oh for Corolla. It's probably Miles Garrett. Yeah. Could have been Miles Garrett. Yeah. He's got lost. Yeah. The yeah the Bucks are just they're maddening and they'll still make the playoffs. And we just have to remember that they're not a good team. Yeah. Well I was. And Todd Bulls sucks as a coach. Todd Bulls does suck as a coach. I was thinking about them because I don't I was trying to think are they one of the worst good teams or one of the best bad team. They're a good bad team. I really

because I think they're actually like a bad average team. I think they're the worst bad team right now because they they do bad things. They do really bad things. They're they're bad boys. Yeah. And then they're not in a good way. Not a good way. They play the Saints on Monday Night Football. I'm sure they'll win. Actually I know that I mean this could this could be the Saints. Yeah. This is the Saints. By the way we're all playing hurt and injured. I have a sore throat. PFT's got jet lag. Hank are you are you better. Yeah. I'm great. You're feeling good. Rest it up. You just handed it off. You were so sick last week or was it the person who's not even here because he's sick. Oh Billy's not here. I was sick three weeks ago. All right. Next up Jaguars

where you say Jake you got it. I think it was a competitor. Oh oh oh yeah shame. I'm looking to confirm. Okay. Jaguars 28 Ravens 27 Trevor Lawrence. This was the Trevor Lawrence game. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence has arrived. If you're a Jaguars fan this is the game you will have in your head for this this buys you like three more years of Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. I mean he was he was awesome in the fourth quarter incredible in the fourth and that that last drive it was weird watching the Jaguars execute that drive competently. It didn't register with me because it had quite literally never happened before. Yeah. So in terms of of where they found themselves at the end of that game the Jaguars they were they were 0 and 183 in franchise history when

trailing by seven or more in the final minute of regulation. They're now 1 and 183. This is the first time that's ever happened. It felt like they were like everyone expected the Jaguars to blow it. It was something about the teal uniforms like like them coming back in those teal uniform the teal pants didn't look normal. And he had third down conversions. He had fourth down conversions. He made tough throws. Yeah. It was a legitimate like it was it was a nut dropping moment for Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. He had two drives in the fourth quarter of 75 yard touchdown drives some fourth down. Yeah. Like you said fourth down conversions. He you know they go for it with the two point conversion to win the game in regulation. It was an awesome Trevor Lawrence

game. Now Doug almost fucked it up though. Yeah he did with the squib kick which would that would have been the most classic Jaguars moment ever. You're highly touted but emotionally shaky star quarterback leads you down the field for what should be like a career stepping stone moment. This is and then your coach kicks a squib kick. They return it to the 40 yard line. You might as well have kicked it out of bounds and then they get a few more yards and then the best kicker of all time comes on. Attempts a 67 yard field goal to win the game. That's how it felt like it was going to end up. But Justin Tucker was like two yards short washed. Yeah. It's Justin Tucker overrated. It is like it was a joke. The thought crossed my mind but it just shows how good he is

that we all thought he was going to hit that. And he was dead center on it. He was dead center. We also got from this game and all time Lamar Tweet afterwards someone named Castle Will Kill said when someone is asking for over $250 million guaranteed like Lamar Jackson games like this should not come to Justin Tucker. Let Lamar walk and spend that money on a well rounded team. And he replied boy shut the fuck up. Y'all be capping too much on this app. Motherfucker never smelled a football field. Never did shit but eat a dick. Well said Lamar. I think that the Raven should cut him for this actually. I think that they should not pay him. They should cut him and let any other team out there that potentially would like to take a look at Lamar go ahead and

pick him up because I think like Lamar Jackson is undisputably a great quarterback. It's funny how many people are starting to turn on him because he'll have this was also a but week for Lamar. Remember that he had he had a bad but issue he did early this week. Also I'm after Thanksgiving with Lamar. I feel like there's probably a high likelihood of food poisoning. I would I would I would I would say Gus Edwards in that fumble. Yeah it's pretty bad and your defense which is supposed to be the strength of your team giving up two 75 yard drives to Trevor Lawrence. Those were I'm not trying to like make excuses for Lamar but I would point to he didn't play great but I'd point to those being like hey those are pretty significant like Gus Edwards form of the ball

just basically dropped it right in the in the red zone. Credit to the defense for holding new field goal but that was a significant significant change in the game. Yeah listen Lamar didn't have a great game today but I would I would love to see what the Ravens would look like without Lamar Jackson and just see how quickly Ravens fans would be like we fucked up. I'm sorry I'm so sorry because like yeah Huntley's good. He's a he's a good quarterback one of the I think he's one of the more fun backups but like if you think that you are a better team without Lamar Jackson or that he's not worth 250 million dollars. Yeah you what was that last part of it. You've never smelled a football field. Oh you never. I'll do a little thing. Boy shut the fuck up. You all be

capping too much on this app. Motherfucker never smelled a football field. Never did shit but eat dick. Yeah yeah that's that's that's what you are if you think that Lamar Jackson should not be resigned and are actually said it perfectly. I'm looking at the guy who tweeted it and like I get Lamar just replying like that. Like I know sometimes people will be like oh Lamar like why are you why do you care about these haters. I kind of would be that I would be like that too every now and then where it's like you're just sitting on your couch. You're like you look like you've never done anything athletic and you're telling me that I don't deserve this money. Fuck you dude. You can tell I would be pissed about that every now and then. You can tell that dude's a real

alpha male because in his in his picture he's doing like the smirk. He took a picture of himself. Yeah he looks like a like if Nick Tarani he looks like Nick if Nick's profile is one of those guys that say like my second language is sarcasm. Yeah and I owner of three cats. Yeah he's doing like the Jim Halpert. That guy ain't smelled a football field nothing but eat a dick. He just eats dicks all day. Not not not in like a homophobic way. That's just his his his diet. Yeah his the majority of his diet is dick. It's like elk penis. Yes he's just going and just eating dick. He's like yeah what's that guy's name Andrew Zimmern. Yeah the bizarre foods guy. Yeah well that guy does is eat dick. So this guy just has a bizarre foods diet and then just watches television

and doesn't understand football. Yeah but every but I like get it. I don't know. It's like well Kevin Durant when I I've kind of switched on it where it's like I kind of understand when when they're just like you know what fuck you guys every now and then just say fuck you to someone online and it probably makes you feel better and people will be like oh he's triggered like no I bet you Lamar closed his phone after that and was like I feel better. Yeah it definitely made him feel better and I also think that it probably made people like Lamar more. Absolutely absolutely but yeah the Ravens it it felt like they're going in the right direction and their blown lead thing just came back to bite them and they were up 19-10 in the fourth quarter.

That's what they do. Felt like they were going to win it. Yeah it felt like they had gotten over that phase because they've had a few weeks where they haven't done that but now I guess they're back to that. So yeah yeah their offense has problems big time problems. Yeah so this is also that's so Ravens moment because how you know we went back and talked about how the 2011 Ravens had Joe Flacco they weren't going to extend him they ended up winning the Super Bowl they have to pay him. Also in 2011 the Ravens lost the Jaguars like shockingly which put them into a tie for first place in the in the division just like it happened today. It's 2011 all over again. Okay and we also saw D'Shawn Jackson shout out to D'Shawn Jackson 64 yard catch and someone I

think Max even was like that's D'Shawn Jackson we're like whoa that is D'Shawn Jackson. Yep he's still fast. Yeah and he's probably gonna get injured soon but that was cool to see him out there. He caught a really long long ball and then went right down because he was like fuck this I'm gonna get injured. Okay Jaguar is so nice. He's like a cheetah though you know like cheetahs they can run faster than anybody else but then they have to lie down for the rest of the day. Yeah just spend all their energy. I think that's what D'Shawn did to that. I think he was like okay I ran I'm tired and just sat down. By the way next week next Sunday we have we have I'm gonna dub it the who's got next or next up bowl the Jaguars versus Lions. It feels like both those teams are in the

same spot. So you think that who's next up. Either the Jags or the Lions are gonna be one of the elite teams. Next up. Okay. Next up next year. I got the Lions. All right. Lions got next. All right I got Lions too. Yeah the next up bowl. Because this was the Jaguar Super Bowl today. Yeah. I've learned this year that the Jaguars can be good in moments. Oh yeah. But they the Jaguars also tend to look at these big like these great games that they have for themselves and they think like okay yeah we got this. There's no no real use in us to going out there improving it again. We're not gonna make the play out. Yeah I mean look at the Jaguar season. They've they have seven losses but then they also beat the Ravens. They pasted the Chargers and they pasted the Colts.

It's like oh okay look at this. These are significant like hey whoa these are really good wins. Okay next up. Jets 31 Bears 10. So Billy is sick. He is not here. But this game really didn't matter. Actually it did. The Chicago Bears now have the second pick in the draft. If the season ended right now. I was gonna say it matters for a much bigger reason than that. You guys are the only team in the NFL to defeat the coin. Yeah that's true. The coin has been bested. Yeah the banner right now. Specifically beat the coin. We got we got completely robbed of an late breaking Nathan Peterman start. That's such bullshit. It's that that sucks. Nathan Peterman when when he started trending because who was it. Jake Lazer said that

like oh watch out. It looks like Simeon hurt me. Yeah. Hold his oblique and warm ups. We're getting Nathan Peterman. Everybody all of America flock to their televisions. He's like a gun. You can't pull out a truck. You can't pull out a Nathan Peterman and not use him. Right. And the reason why I mean like Trevor Simeon obviously was like fuck this I'm playing because if I can play well which he didn't really. I mean he had won two nice drives because if I can play well I can I can use this for you know my next contract. I would love to see what the reaction on the Jets sideline was. Like what kind of actual preparation did they make when they heard that they might be facing Nathan Peterman instead of Trevor Simeon. Yeah. Like what adjustments did

they start to put in place. Yes. Being like oh shit. OK we gentlemen we've talked about this. We've discussed what could happen. We repaired our backup plan. We're enacting that like what do you do differently. Just put like more defensive backs out there. It's it's it's pretty simple. I mean they they showed them walking out of the tunnel together and they just look like the same guy. Yeah. It's like they have the same skill set of nothing. Yeah. No offense. Nice people. Not really nice people. Like them both as people. Yeah. Skill set enough. We I think the body of evidence is large enough on both of them to know exactly who we're getting. Was it we're solo that was like as as America and as sports fans we're starting to take mental health more seriously across the

board unless it's Nathan Peterman. Yeah. And then everybody's just like let's laugh at that guy. Rip some of its big goes the same for Russell Westbrook. Yeah. It's basically those two guys the world has just decided we can just rip them apart. Yeah. But yeah this game the Jets crushed the Bears. Their defense is elite. I've said it a million times and Mike White I don't know. I mean I'll just throw out a stat. Mike White has started four games for the Jets. He has two games of those four with three touchdown passes. Zach Wilson has started 20 games for the Jets. He has never done that. Hmm. I'm just going to throw that out. But he's Patrick Mahon. He's got the ceiling of Patrick Mahon. Yeah. That's where the upside is. Yeah. That's he does

have it. But I so so we we I think the the Zach Wilson thing happened after we went off for break. Right. I think it happened like late Tuesday. I think yeah. So it was really hot seat. So we didn't have the full details. But I think it was all a saying you wouldn't commit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so I how do they go back to him. I don't know. Like deactivating him making him. Was this like the last teachable moment for Zach Wilson. Do. Does this happen. Can you go back to him. I don't think you can. I. Yeah. You can. The only way that it happens is if if Mike White goes out there completely shits the bed and they put him in in like the fourth quarter and he looks competent. But it was really mean of like this locker room must hate Zach Wilson so so much

because the Bears defense was the perfect get right. Like the Bears defense gives up points to everyone. So Zach Wilson would have probably looked OK. And instead he was just sitting on the sideline. They put up the stat that he gained. So 2.5 inches on every play in the second half against the Patriots. Very sad. They kept showing him on the sidelines. Yeah. And we are body language experts here on part of my take. I didn't see a lot of teammates hanging out with him. No. On the sideline. I don't think he's well liked. He was just looking kind of kind of kind of wet and cold in the rain. Yeah. He's where you can say Hank. I don't know how they put him back in. He's got to win back the locker room. How he apologized. I think that takes time. I think what PFT said you

need to show it with how he carries himself for the next few weeks. And then if something happens where he can get in the game maybe win them a game. And that's his only way. Someone's got to fuck his mom. Yeah. Mike White. And then and then he has to get into a fight with that guy. No Elijah Moore. Yeah. Elijah Moore has to fuck his mom. Then Zach Wilson has to knock Elijah Moore out. Yeah. And then they need to trade Elijah Moore. Yeah. That's that's really the road map because they might either locker room might hate Elijah more than more than they hate Zach Wilson. I don't know. Touchdown. He's good friends of Mike White. Also also Garrett Wilson has I think he's got four touchdowns on the year. He has two each from White and Flacco zero from Zach Wilson.

Kind of interesting. It's yeah. I I think the Jets Jets fans are probably I mean they're happy that they should have beaten the Bears say the Bears are not good especially without Justin Fields being out of this game made the Bears. It actually I was I was texting my friends like because I've said it before I want them to win a couple more games with Justin Fields because I wanted to see him win a game but without him it's full on tank like there's no reason there was no part of me that was like I hope the Bears win this game because it does nothing but hurt them in the future and rooting for the Bears to lose is like a cathartic experience because they're a juggernaut at that. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like I like being like I

I don't want the Bears to win this game just reversing my entire mindset about the Bears. I was like I want them to lose this game and they are incredibly competent at that. Yeah we got this. They know how to do that very very well. So it was like it was like the easiest Sunday of my life. Yeah it's crazy that it was against the Jets and you're like we this is going to be easy for us. Yeah. And they were in my entire life. We I mean the Jets are a way better team than the Bears right now. The that that one play where it was like a fumble on on the field goal and it was it was just like passed around five times. That was just a perfect Jets Bears play and yeah I I don't know I just the Bears are a juggernaut at losing. So good news for for all the Zach Wilson fans out

there. It looks like the so the Jets are going to be playing the Vikings next week and then after that the Jets are playing at the Bills. It could be a rough couple of weeks for Mike White. I don't know that which is great. Which case do you then bring Zach Wilson back for a for a home game against the Lions. We have a terrible defense. Christian Watson is so fucking fast. Holy shit. Jordan Love by the way is in the game. Christian Watson. Yes I love it. Jordan Love is in the game. Let's go. Aaron Rodgers went to the locker room probably to thumb with a thumb with a thumb. But yeah you you were right. I think that maybe I just don't know how you do it. Like if Mike White plays competent football the Jets become a legitimate playoff threat because they're

make the play yeah well not not only that but like I like that's the craziest part about Zach Wilson if come on their defense is that good. I honestly believe their defense is that good to make the playoffs. Yeah no but I'm saying like if they got if if if the Jets had had been getting B minus quarterback play this year I would they would probably have two more wins maybe yeah like they would be a team that you'd be looking like holy shit the Jets are whatever nine and two or something like that. Like that's how bad Zach Wilson has been. He's been literally the worst quarterback in the NFL. So if Mike White is B minus quarterbacking I think you got to just keep rolling with him and be like this is our best chance to win. Also the coin is

dead by the way. Yeah the coin is dead. We listened to earlier in the segment. That's okay. That's right Hank you're sick. The coin is dead. You got us sick. Yeah you're sick in the head. Yeah that was that was basically it for the for the for the Jets Bears game. I mean that was I don't know it just doesn't feel like anything without without Justin. The Bears literally went from I think it was the Panthers loss or the Panthers win and someone else won. They got the Bears up to the number two pick. Yeah it was the shit who was it. Panthers. I'm going to drive this insane. Was it Seattle. Oh yeah the Raiders the Raiders winning. The Raiders winning definitely and I think the Jaguars. There's a there's a couple three win teams that won today that the Bears were

able to jump. So I feel good. That's good. That's good. Second pick is a real pick. It's great. Yeah that's a fucking big time. And you also get to have like entire offseason about trading back. Yeah like we love to trade back with anybody. I would love to get more picks get more picks because you don't get a quarterback and someone's going to want a quarterback. Someone always wants a quarterback because there are some very good quarterbacks. Oh boy. Okay before we get to the next game PFT you got a quick word from one of our sponsors. Yeah a new sponsor alert brand new sponsor alert. Yeah I love it Hank. Great job from 87 North the filmmakers of Hobbes and Shaw John Wick atomic blonde bullet train and nobody violent night is an action packed Christmas

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Okay so next up Panthers 23. This is funny real quick. I just I just named search Christian Watson on on Twitter trying to bring up the video of it and the first two tweets that I see are from Eagles fans being like why the hell wasn't he on Howie's radar during the draft. Oh that's just just mad at Howie. That is perfect. Good sports town Max. Great sports town. Always. All right Panthers 23 Broncos 10. I guess we should start with the Panthers Sam Darnold with the funniest touchdown run of all time where he stopped dropped and rolled into the end zone. No one touched him. If you haven't seen this go watch it because it is very very funny. Yeah. He just fumbled. No one was near him. Got the ball and rolled like a toddler into the end

zone which I was looking up because we didn't put this game on TV and when I saw that Sam Darnold had a touchdown run I was like oh he probably got a sneak or something and then I saw that like five minutes later is like wait that's how he scored. It's a great strategy. It really was. It's like better than the fake slide that Kenny Pickett did. My favorite moment of quarterbacks today was Russell Wilson just got cussed the fuck out. Oh big time. We're like really cussed out by one of his teammates Mike Purcell Mike Purcell just like sprinted over to him got into his face and you could see Wilson like he he realized that OK at this point you just got to take it. Everyone hates me. I think it was the first moment where he's like I shouldn't say Broncos

country. Let's you know what I'm actually on Russ Wilson's side in this. I think Mike Purcell that's his name. Yeah. He's just he's not unlimited. He's telling on himself for being limited. Yeah. And so it's everybody else's fault but Russ Wilson. Russ have faith. Stay the course. Everything will work out. I also my favorite part of that video was the fact that Nathaniel Hackett was right there and just pretending it didn't exist. Yeah. What are you going to do. He was the this is fine dog sitting in the fire. What are you like. All right. So my you know a defensive player is just screaming at our franchise quarterback that we paid hundreds of millions of dollars to essentially just showing everyone on the team that they don't respect him. I'm fine.

Let's go for this one. Like all right. What's the next play. OK. We're going to punt. OK. Cool. What do you do if you're Nathaniel Hackett at this point because he seems like a guy that he could resign. He could step down. I was thinking about this. And by the way that moment I wouldn't have I wouldn't have put it past Nathaniel Hackett to do like you know when you're in an awkward moment and or like you see someone you don't want to like run into and you pretend the phone call. He should have just taken this phone out of his pocket. I don't think they're allowed to have phones in their pockets but he should have just been like I'm on the phone because it was the conversation. Russell Wilson getting cussed out was right next to. Yeah. I would have just thrown

a challenge flag just so the ref could come over to me. I could act like I was busy. Have something to do. And at very least like have a conversation and be like I like challenge that last play and then be like like what are you challenging. And be like oh I forgot. I was thinking about this and I want to phrase this correctly because I do. I like Nathaniel Hackett as a person. Yes. But do you think there's ever been an interview we've done that we got less out of and we gave up so much in terms of making fun of a coach for being so bad at his job. Well we didn't we didn't know. Right. I know I'm saying like if we could if present day us could go back to Denver Colorado during grit week when they're like hey do you guys want Nathaniel

Hackett. We would have been like no we want to roast this guy. Yeah. We do not want to meet him because we're going to like him because again he's a nice guy but holy shit he's a bad football it's actually it's actually a very bad job on our part. We should not interview brand new coaches anymore. No we should we should let them we should wait we should wait and then see what what it is we're going to want to make fun of them about and then at that point we'll say okay because he was so charming that he really he really did actually not just to us but to the listeners a part of my take. Yes. Really disservice the content that we would be bringing out of this guy if we didn't like him would I I feel like it would be great now. I want to say

during the interview and again great guy he did tell us straight up that when we were asking him about like decision making and offenses that he wanted to run and how he how he looked at like game planning he did say that the owners of the Broncos didn't really get much into football with them. Yeah. They wanted to know more about just like him as a person and he's a great person and whether or not maybe Aaron Rodgers could come join the team. Right. Right. So that's kind of what happened with that one we think because ideally if you're interviewing a football coach you probably want to ask him about football. Yeah. No. Absolutely. I would say that's that's probably the first thing you want to ask him. I'm going to say right now. Well I'm ready to just like we should just roast

him because we might not have him for very long like this is this is going to end in him getting fired. So I think we need to I think Nathaniel Hackett would understand like we've been very nice. Yeah. We've been very nice. You fucked up a lot. We got a like this is like you know you're not friends unless you can really bust balls. Hey Nathaniel Hackett like to show that we're friends like I can be like hey dude you might be the worst coach of all time like probably like that's just us busting balls maybe ever. Yeah like ever. And the thing is he's so nice of a guy like ever is a long time. He's probably not going to throw Russell Wilson under worse than Urban under the bus. Yeah. Urban at least had like that one game where it felt like the guys were going in the right

direction. Even the Broncos wins don't feel like that. Yeah. And at least Urban was like was out there doing cool stuff like and Urban's been an incredible college coach. One of the best college coaches of all time. Nathaniel Hackett has ever he might be ever. And like I said he's too nice of a guy to throw Russell Wilson completely under the bus because he's just going to be just straight up like he could if he was a little bit more cutthroat he could like bench Russell Wilson. But yeah he's not going to do that also he's probably not empowered to do. No he probably can't do that. Russell Wilson can bench him. Yeah. And McDaniels by the way started 6 and 0. So that's different for those Broncos. For those Broncos which he has it's bad. It's really bad.

I don't really know what else to say besides dude like maybe you should have stayed in med school. I still feel like he could once he once he does get fired or quits he's probably going to come on to the show and do a very like illuminating funny interview about just how in over his head that he was. I don't think anybody's been as over their head in their job. Yeah maybe ever. No as Nathaniel Hackett is right now. He is he's like if you do type like proficient in Excel on your resume and then they're like day one. OK we need you to make the spreadsheet for us and put in a few macros and you just like immediately go to Google and start Googling how to do Excel. No you walk out and you start just sweating. Yeah you walk out. You're like I can't do this. I lied on my

resume. This is what it feels like with him. He lied on his resume. He can't do this. Yeah. He should probably stop doing this. And yeah you're right. Like he will probably come back on and I'd be like coach this is a funny thing I said about you. I said you're the worst coach ever. Haha. And he'd be like God that's funny guys. I'm like that was fun. Well I mean like here's a robot question. Are you the worst coach ever. There's a lot of there's a lot of stats that you could point to that would say yes. Yes. Yeah. I'm not saying it. I'm saying that there's there's a plethora. No I am saying he's the worst coach ever. OK. I'm going to clarify. We'll do good cop bad cop. I'll be good cop. I'm not saying that about him. I haven't seen every coach ever coach

but as the numbers go the numbers make a compelling argument that he's the worst coach of all time maybe in any sport. You're doing like the Carl Everett doesn't believe in dinosaurs. I didn't see a lot of bad coaches so they don't exist. No but it's not me. I'm saying the numbers are telling me. Yeah. The numbers certain statistics that you look at say that he's the worst coach of all time and maybe it's also across other sports like maybe even if you include basketball. Yeah. It's it's so so bad that Sam Darnold looks like he's got a second shot like that's how bad it is. They are they can't score. They can't do anything. Is that another field goal. That was another field. That's three incredible 61 yarder 40 to 30 Eagles with 216 left

they can't do anything. They have their Mike Purcell their nose tackle screaming at Russell Wilson. He's Nathaniel Hackett staying there not able to do anything. Brian Burns was mocking Russell Wilson with his sack dance. Did you see that. He's not eliminated either. It was great. He was doing he did the when Russell Wilson is sitting at the 50 yard line before a game and pretending that God is literally touching him. He did that as a sack dance like Russell Wilson has become such a joke. The audibles that he's calling that are from Seattle. He's getting mocked. He's getting yelled at and Nathaniel Hackett just got to sit there and be like this sucks. Yeah. Like I actually feel bad for the guy because Russell Wilson has not been I you could

make the argument this might be one of the worst trades of all time with the way Russell Wilson is playing. Yeah. He's definitely like I think in every statistical category he's in he's either 20th or below of all the main ones. It's crazy. I OK. So I watched Russell Wilson play his entire career. Watched a lot of him last year. He wasn't this bad last year. No he wasn't. So it's a combination of altitude Nathaniel Hackett not having himself. Yeah. Reading too many of his press clippings. The giant house that he bought with no bathrooms. Yep. Yep. That is a crazy house. It is a wild house. Russell Wilson by the way talking about how do you think he explained the situation with Mike Purcell after. OK. Putting myself in Russell Wilson's shoes

were the first three words he said. Everyone can guess. Russell Wilson gets screamed at by his teammate on the sideline goes by guy. That's just football. No you guys are close but not there. Jake you got anything. We're sick of losing. No. It's perfect. Russell Wilson he said we'll get him next time. No. I loved it. OK. All right. He said I loved it. That's just fire. Yeah. He came off real pissed off said let's effing go. Me and him are on the same page. OK. I think they actually are on the same page. I'll defend Russell Wilson. I think they under Russell Wilson fully understands that his teammates hate his guts and his teammates do hate his guts. Everyone's on the same page. Clap it up guys. Yeah. Clap it up. Yeah. Broncos country. Let's ride.

Run or pass. Everybody come on sideline. Everybody scream. Run or pass. Run or pass. You get everyone on that Broncos sideline needs to look themselves in the mirror for not being unlimited enough and not yelling. Run or pass. Loud enough on defense to support your team because maybe the defense was a little bit better than you guys might win a couple of foot. Oh wait. The Broncos defense is like the best in the NFL. Yeah. Although they didn't trade Bradley Chubb but this is I honestly think Russell Wilson needs to just sit out for the rest of the year. I was saying hard reset. It's the only way to say no hack. It's going to get fired like you get someone else. I don't know. It's just because you're stuck with him. You can't do anything. You can't trade him.

You know when you we talked the other week about which quarterbacks would be the worst to do drugs with and Russell Wilson is unanimous. Number one. Number one. I actually do think that Russell Wilson is the quarterback that needs to do drugs the most. Yeah. You know I'm saying like he would suck to do drugs with but there's no quarterback in the NFL that's more in need of like a nice piping hot glass of ayahuasca. Yes. Then Russell Wilson. Yes. Ego death. Just like yeah. Just yes. Go off into the jungle for the next two months. Leave. Leave Ciara behind. She'll be fine. And yeah. Just just stay in a Shaman's tent. Yeah. Eat some mushrooms and put on a blindfold. Yeah. Let your senses take over. I would like to do ecstasy with Sam Darnold.

Would you. Yeah. It'd be fun. I think I think he's like a party guy. He was Sam Donald. Yeah. That wouldn't be bad. I don't think I'd like go to like a EDM concert. I'd like to slam some Bruce Kees with Davis Mills. Yeah. Davis Mills is sick at beer pong. Oh yeah. Big time. He's got that neck. Yeah. Just leans it right over. Coke with James. Oh man. I don't know. He would have you would either create the greatest company of all time or you just walk away being what was that guy talking about. Yeah. The next thing I know I'm like I'm applying for a permit for like a crawfish boil restaurant in Memphis. And James is like I know just the guy that can run. Crawfish gym. Yeah. It's a cross. Yeah. You boil it. Well you drag giant sacks of crawfish over

your shoulder across restaurant throne in the pot. Yeah. Man. But it would be it would be a legendary hang. My last thing about Sam Darnold. I think he deserves a little bit of credit. Who knows where his career is going. But Sam Darnold has gotten a win for these four coaches. Todd Bowles. Adam Gase. Matt Rule. Steve Wilkes. That's impressive. Let's go. Yeah. That's like that's a fact that you could walk around and be like you see these guys like he's playing NFL on expert mode. Steve Wilkes might be the best coach of them. Matt Rule. Todd Bowles. Adam Gase. Steve Wilkes. No I still think Todd Bowles over Steve Wilkes. I don't know. Steve Wilkes got the boys playing. Steve Wilkes is a much better interim coach than any of those guys. But it's that in

itself the fact that Sam Darnold has got a quarterback win for those four head coaches deserves like a tip of the cap. Like wow dude. Yeah. That's impressive. That is pretty impressive. I just I just thought the name of James Winston Jim would be CrossFit but with a W. I mean I actually kind of want to start this gym now. Yes I do too. And you could just like maybe oh maybe part of the workout is you you like steal some crawfish and then you get chased. Yeah that would be great. That's that's the running portion. This is all over. This is almost like a horizontal monopoly that we have going right here. Yeah. It's it's it's like farm to table except it's like supermarket theft to stomach. It's perfect. This genius. No one steal it. Okay next up Dolphins 30

Texans 15. Jake I almost would I almost like never would have forgiven the Dolphins for what they tried to do in this game by giving up the cover. That was the easiest win ever that they then just were like second half. We don't even have to play on pace one by 50. There it was crazy. They they came out there actually Brandon Cooks has a quote that was shocking. I like I don't think I've ever seen this from an NFL player. He was asked when did the Texans know they were overmatched. He said from the moment we came out I'm talking from an offensive standpoint the moment we stepped out on the field. That's the truth. That's facts. He's just straight up trying to get I don't he's trying to get at this point. Yeah but that's as blood as it gets and it's true.

They came out there and they were overmatched from the moment the game started. Yeah 10 points in the first quarter for the Dolphins 20 and the site is 30 nothing at halftime. They took two out which I don't blame them. Well it's because it was the big news out of this whole game was Turan Armstead their left tackle got hurt and it might be bad and then Tua got sacked four times in nine plays. Yeah and they're like well this is probably a stupid thing and yeah I don't blame them either but they almost fucked everyone over. Yeah I mean they the Dolphins lost the second half 15 to nothing. This game is like the perfect example of the final score. It's not indicate how the game went. No I mean like they could have scored as many points as they wanted in this game. It was

like it was like a week two college football game where you have like Alabama playing McNeese state. Yeah it was it was it was bad. It was ugly. It was all the above. Congratulations Jake. You beat up on like you know a team that's not really in an NFL team. No they're borderline NFL team. Yeah but to the Dolphins credit like that's exactly what you wanted to see the offense look like. Yeah this was a preseason game for them. The Dolphins though. So the Dolphins Hank what are you rooting for here? Packers. What do you have? Moneyline. They're down 10. Yeah I know. So but it was a minute 22. If they don't convert this then they have to kick a field goal here because they're down 10 which is what I really need that'd be the fourth

field goal. Oh shit all right so. No no no no no. Drop it. Wow Jordan Love. He's ball. Terrible awareness. He could have run for that. He could have run for that. That's a fact. Is it not? Ways time though. He could have run for it. They have three time outs. He could have run for that. Look at how much space he had. Jordan Love. Terrible field awareness. That's I'm going to mark that right there. Put that in my file. He absolutely could have gotten to the sideline. He could have gotten to the sideline. I don't know about that. I think that was. He's mobile. He could have run out of bounds. Yeah. quarterback got there quick. Wait oh the meanest graphic of all time for the Dolphins Texans. I don't know if you guys saw it but they

did nice PFT the field goal bet. It hits every single time. It's crazy the three and a half field goals at night. It's got to be something like 75 80 percent. It's always plus one this year. They did a in the hunt for the AFC. It was every team except the Texans. Literally every team. So they're mathematically eliminated. I think so but it was just so funny to see in the hunt the most crowded graphic possible. Every team except the Texans. Yeah if you're in the hunt. So would you I feel bad for Lovie Smith a little bit that he has to keep going through the motions this season. Yeah. I think he likes coaching football so it's like being around the guy. Yeah it's like better. His wife's probably like you know it's good that he's got

interest that he's still into these days. If it were me you'd probably have to pay me I'd say fifty thousand dollars to coach the Houston Texans for the rest of the year or is that too little. And by that I mean like only on game day. I'm not talking about like during the week. I'm saying if you wanted me to fly down to Houston Texas Texas every Sunday spend my entire Sunday doing nothing but coaching the Houston Texans I think my cost would be 50 grand for the rest of the year. 50 grand a week. No just but I'm only working Sundays. Oh yeah. Someone else because I have to I have to stop watching football. No I would not do that but you remember there's no state income tax. Yeah but no not not being able to watch all the games

if I could if I could hold an iPad and watch the games while I coached. Yeah I do that. You can listen to the broadcast the Red Zone broadcast in your headphones. No I wouldn't do it. No 50 grand. No I watching football is priceless. It's true. It's my favorite thing to do. You're right. Fifty thousand dollars is actually like it's an insultingly low amount of money to coach the Houston Texans that I think about it. Right. Yeah no the Texans are just that's a garbage garbage team. They're barely a team like you said. Barely. I just I feel bad for Lovey knowing that he's not going to be back now and you know he's not done anything to make you want to keep him around. I might keep him around. Like just put him back on a defensive coordinator.

No they might just keep him around. I don't know. I feel like the Texans have been dead set on hiring Josh McCown for the last. Yeah that's true. Like four seasons circling that. Yeah. By the way for the Dolphins. Dolphins are very good. Dolphins are eight and three. Dolphins are first in the AFC East. Are the Dolphins. Yes they would have no they would be the two seed right now. Chiefs are nine and two. The Dolphins though we get a little like are they for real coming up because they got to go at 49ers at Chargers at Bills Packers Jets Packers Patriots Jets. These next three though at 49ers at Chargers at Bills like if they win two out of three I I don't think why wouldn't we be saying Dolphins are a true bona fide Super Bowl contender.

Why wouldn't we. I think we would be. Yeah I think they are right now. I do too but I'm saying like that's the conversation like I don't think if you if you pulled everyone if if you pulled everyone like who's going to win the Super Bowl the Dolphins are probably what like the fourth or fifth team that comes out of people's mouths. I think if they win two out of these three they become like the second or third team that comes out of their mouth. Yeah I'd say that's probably about right. I think if they finish the season as the as the two seed yeah then everybody's they win the AFC. Yeah if they win the AFC East it's going to be really interesting because between Buffalo and Miami coming down the stretch I think home field is like super super important

for those two teams maybe more than any other team in Kansas City in the AFC because Kansas City still has the best field advantage but Kansas City low key on offense they've been way better on the road than they have true at home. I think like 10 points better on offense on the road. So yeah Arrowhead is it's different in the playoffs. It's super loud but I would say that it's more important to Miami and Buffalo than it is Kansas City. Yeah yeah okay before we get to the afternoon games PFC you got a couple actually let's do Chiefs Rams let's do Chiefs Rams then we'll do that a couple adds and we'll also do Packers Eagles because it's about to is it over. It's over so Eagles 40 Packers 33. That was a wild game. Aaron Rodgers I feel like he's done for

the season right. Well the thumb the report that came out from Ian Rapoport before today started right was basically saying like you jackasses have no idea how tough Aaron Rodgers is. Yeah he's been playing through an injury that would have killed most other quarterbacks. His thumb has a weird type of a volition fracture that we've that doctors have never seen before. Most people would have it amputated not Aaron Rodgers. He's been playing and he hasn't been complaining about it at all. Usually when that type of report comes out it means that a quarterback is about to get shut down for extended period of time. Agreed yes and so I yeah I think that's probably it for him. He's probably like this was a nice exit ramp for him. They're four and eight

they're not going to the playoffs. They're not eliminated but they're not going to the playoffs and now you basically can see what you got with with Jordan Love. From what we saw from Jordan Love you look pretty good tonight. Nah no field away. I mean some of his teammates have even said the last couple of weeks like that's a starter. I'll tell you point blank. That's a starter. That's what they said. Yep. Wow. So now Big Cat's caught between a rock and a hard place like should you root for Jordan Love to suck or should you root for Jordan Love to be so good that they move on from Aaron Rodgers this offseason. I want him because the way this season is gone. No I want him to be. You might want to start rooting for Aaron Rodgers to be okay.

I want him to win games not next week against the Bears but win games but in that middle ground of like this would actually be perfect because then I want them to commit to him and him and then be like oh whoops. This would be perfect though if if Aaron Rodgers is out for maybe the rest of the season. Right now the Packers look like shit. Justin Fields what if he comes back next week and Justin Fields could beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers but they're taking that away from you by benching them. That's fine. I'd still be fine with just beating the Packers. Okay. If Justin Fields could beat the Packers but yeah I wasn't impressed by Jordan Love. Christian Watson did everything for him. Okay. Yeah I wasn't. Were you impressed Hank? He didn't get

you the win. Yeah he had some nice zip on the ball. He was in there earlier. I think they won this game. He did. Oh really? He looked pretty good. So they win that game with Jordan Love. I think so. Okay. Max how are you how are you feeling about the Eagles brand new all black uniforms? The uniforms looked great. I mean put the camera on yourself Max. If you pass another cough drop I'm gonna put it in my drink. Yeah we're doing lean in the studio. Uniforms looked great. Special teams looked bad. Defense looks bad. Special teams officially has me because- Worried. Max said that to me a few weeks ago. He's like our special team is not very good. He's like but we have good everything else. I was like yeah but every team that has

bad special teams they just they lose in a drastic way in the playoffs. It's like the Packers last year. Remember the 49ers against the Giants in the game when uh when uh was a Kyle Williams fumbled like three times punts. Yep. Like special teams will always rear its ugly head. Was that against the Giants or against the Saints? I don't know. There are some crazy games against the Saints too but yeah I know what you're saying like in the playoffs those things they tend to matter. It feels like special teams always like you can just say yeah it was against the Giants. You can say that uh special teams oh it's fine and then there'll be a key moment of playoff game and it will turn everything. And you'd be like well that kind of sucks. You saw that coming. Cody Parkie another

another uh point to that. You know like I knew all year that that was a big problem and it's like oh maybe we'll be fine. No. Yeah I don't understand we're the worst kick kickoff team in the league. They get to the 40 three times three times a game. They're off the kickoff and it makes such a difference and it's just frustrating to see but I don't know when is when I guess Jalen Hertz looked great. So it sounds very I would be worried about the defense. You don't worry about the defense. What about Jordan Davis? Jordan Davis is out. No he's coming back though. I know I know he's coming back. Gardner Johnson got hurt today. We had blanket chip out there. I thought it was Rodrigo blanket chip. Quite shocking. Not to make any racial statements here but I did say

is that a white safety because I don't know when was the last time you saw that. No it's shocking. Yeah. I mean I guess Chris Conte for the Bears. I worked out well. We've had some other white safeties recently too. Oh Harrison Spence. Yeah yeah yeah he's a really good he's a great safety. So you feel not so great. When's the win. Okay when's the win. 10-1. That's 10-1. I won't apologize for being 10-1. You realize though that every way that you respond to this means that you don't feel so good. Yeah it was so very lukewarm. A win to win is not like an I feel great. I mean we score 40 points. Jalen Hertz looked really good. AJ Brown has to stop fumbling the fucking football for no reason. I don't understand why it keeps happening but Jalen Hertz looked really good. 170 yards

rushing or something. You can just tell yourself like you got to be able to win these types of games or shoot out. Yeah and we did. So it's a good win. When's the win. When's the win. Okay all right next up let's do Rams Chiefs Rams the game that I've never watched the game where I was like we all know what the outcome is going to be. It's actually very similar to the Saints Broncos last year when they had to start who's that guy. In book. No no no when Saints Broncos when the Saints went to the Broncos the Broncos had to start the guy who had never thrown a pass. Oh they started the wide receiver. Yeah yeah yeah. Bryce Perkins is better than that but there was no way Bryce Perkins was with this Rams team with Cooper cup out Alan Robinson out Matthew Stafford out going

to Arrowhead and winning that game like the Chiefs it felt like they were just playing with their food they weren't like converting for touchdowns they kind of played not their best game and it was never even close to it. Yeah I actually think that even if it wasn't Bryce Perkins playing this game if it was Matt Stafford I think that the Chiefs probably beat him a little bit more. Yeah probably because in this one it's like very natural for a team to be like oh Bryce Perkins is coming into town the Rams are so banged up. Okay yeah we're the Chiefs we like to fuck around anyways and so that's when you get this game which was actually it was closer than it looked in the fourth quarter. Yeah like it wasn't it was completely out of reach but it wasn't if you know what I'm saying like

the fact that it was this Rams team playing made it completely out of reach but by the score it wasn't it wasn't like a blowout like you thought it would be and the Chiefs right now they don't score at home as much they are however 26 and 0 in their last 26 games in November and December which that's a pattern they just don't they just don't lose. Yeah yeah they just don't lose and the the key highlight from this game was Shawn McVeigh got jacked up. Yep that was pretty cool. Yeah he got shoulder to the jaw and I I I did like have a moment where when I was taking notes before the show I just started like giggling to myself how awesome like it wasn't awesome the jacked up exists but like for anyone out there who didn't get to watch jacked up it was awesome.

They just showed like people getting concussed every week and then tige and boom would just yell jacked up. You just got jacked up and like it was even in the moment we're like whoa that's pretty fucked up but also when they yelled jacked up you're like that was awesome. It got you jacked up when you were watching it. It was it was a ESPN highlight Monday night highlight of every concussion. Yeah so it's crazy to say what they would do they would show actually like the players getting hit and then not being able to get up off the ground and then getting up and like stumbling and falling down on the way to the sideline and they would just scream jacked up and then everybody would laugh. Would they do Tweety Birds did I make that up? I think they did they might have had some

like sound effects. Yeah where it's like oh he's dizzy. Yeah and everybody knew when they were doing it like this is kind of fucked up. It's so fucking funny to think about. Yeah it's it's changed that and then the concussion lawsuit came and the NFL was like hey guys uh would you mind instead of saying jacked up can you just say like come on man. Come on man. In the same type of voice and so that's how that's the evolution of a Monday night countdown segment. Yeah I mean it was just all yeah he was I watched it I was like jacked up that was fucking sick um hold on I want let's I'm gonna pull it up real quick I just want to see is Susie Colbert uh T

He's just fucking he's concussed. He's 100% concussed. He's just got jacked up. Oh man. All right so that was that was pretty much the whole game. Yeah that's all I had. Sean McCrae legitimately might have had a concussion. Yeah no I think so. I don't know if there's like do they do tests on coaches for those types of situations. He didn't go into the tent. It would have been nice. He might be in protocol. Yeah I mean the way they were just running the ball for no no yards over and over he might have been concussed. You gotta have where's your hold back coach on that one. Yeah that's what you gotta have head on a swivel. Have to have your head on a swivel. The Rams by the way are going for the uh worst win percentage of a Super Bowl champ.

Worst hangover of all time. So the the Broncos after John L.A. retired went six and ten and then the other one was uh the 49ers after they won I think an 82 83 was a strike year so that doesn't really count. Mm-hmm. So uh they are they are a really bad team. Yeah it fell apart very quickly. Aaron Donald's still good though. Yeah but he's got a you've got some nice pieces on the team but I I never blame a team that deals with Super Bowl hangover because winning the Super Bowl probably kicks ass so much and you probably just have a kick ass summer and you do a lot of cool ass shit and then you come back you're like oh fuck I don't want to go back to work. I just had a great summer because I'm a fucking Super Bowl champion. I just partied my dick off

and then you get back to work and you're like oh this sucks shit and then you have to go out on Sundays and play contact football get hurt and stuff and you're like fuck that I'm a Super Bowl champion I don't have to deal with this shit. Yes. I completely understand that mindset. It also probably is like kind of nice for them to be able to just say right now like hey let's let's book our travel for January. Yeah. You know what I mean they're like hey honey like we're we're good to go. January 10th we're good to go. Yeah you you worked like time and a half last season. Yeah right. You worked an extra month and a half almost. It's good for you to be able to take January off. Yeah just like we're ready to go. OK let's do a couple more ads and then we have our last three

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ERC or visit OmegaTaxCredits.com now. Okay, last three games. Niners, 13, Saints, 0. I'm so sick of the fucking New Orleans Saints. We say it every week, but this is a game that the Saints could have won if they started anyone besides any dog. Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. That's just what they're gonna do. And the 49ers defense, they're awesome. They're outstanding. They're first in points per game, yards per game, rush yards per game, yards per rush, first downs per game, and past touchdowns per game, which that's a lot of things to be number one in. Oh, and I'm sure that if James had played, they probably would have done some fucked up stuff to James Winston. It would have been hilarious, but it would have been a great game to watch. And it is disgusting. I don't

know what James has done to Dennis Allen's family, why he hates him so much. Get Andy out of here. But it's painful to watch the Saints right now. This is the first time that they've been shut out since 2001. Against the 49ers in week 17. Yeah, actually all three of their last three shutouts were against the 49ers. Yeah, I looked it up. That game was Jeff Garcia, Aaron Brooks. Aaron Brooks was 21 for 33, 119 yards, zero touchdowns, four interceptions. The Niners defense is electric. They have given up zero points in the last, in the second half of the last four games. That's hard to do. Their offense looks sluggish today. That was like the part where the Saints defense actually played well. So you have to be, if you're on the Saints defense, like dude,

just let's do something else. Yeah, you know what though? I saw Jimmy G took a few shots today and bounced back from him. He didn't look great all the time. He was, he had 222 yards. His numbers are good though too. Yeah, 222 yards, one touchdown. And he only took one official sack, but he got knocked around a little bit. And so you remember how Billy was talking about Zach Wilson being too, too good looking to not be tough? I think Jimmy Garoppolo is tough enough to be that good looking. Yeah. I think that's why his teammates like him. Yeah. He's pretty tough. He's literally pretty tough. He is pretty tough. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, this game, it was a boring game in the fact that the Niners defense just suffocated them. And the Saints,

we get to watch the Saints have Monday Night Football. And that one's not going to be flexed, Jake. Monday Night Football, Untouchable. Untouchables. Can we make an exception? I wish. If it's James, that would be amazing. We should start a change that word petition. Start James on Monday Night Football. I'm so excited. Do it for America. Yeah. 49ers Dolphins next week is going to rule. Whose line is it anyway? Where's that? It's in San Francisco. I'm going to say, oh, this is going to be tough. I think it's going to be, I think it might be a pick them. I was going to say Niners, Niners minus two and a half. I was going to say Dolphins minus two. Oh, what's in San Francisco? Our power ratings do not line up guys. Niners minus three and a half. Oh, wow.

Wow. I was going to go three, but I was like, I feel like they would have gobbled that up. The thing is, that does Hank, you're on the wrong side of the zero. So with the Niners, they've been, their record hasn't looked good recently. Right. But they're incredible. The numbers, I know the numbers have looked bad, but they've also like unmistakably been trending upwards. And they're also, they now are in first in the NFC West, which we all kind of figured they were going to be the team that wins the NFC West. We'll talk about the Seahawks in a couple of games, but that this is where like the Niners, if they are what we think they are, which we do think they are. I think that they are who we thought that they were. If they are what we think they are, and we

do think that they are that. Well, because we, so flash backwards like three weeks, I was saying to myself, in a few weeks, they will be where I thought that they would be. Right. And now they are where we thought that they would be. They will win the NFC West. They'll have a home playoff game and they will be the team and I'm speaking for Max here. He can, he can speak up. I think they will be the team that all Cowboys Eagles Vikings fans will say no, no, thank you. Don't want to play that team. Yeah. Was that fair to say Max? Yeah, a hundred percent there. I think they're by far the scariest. They are, they are the team that everyone's going to be like, we don't want to do that. Now you can sell yourself on like, well, maybe you can get to Jimmy G, but yeah,

they have so much talent, so much fucking talent. And yeah, that's often Niners game. I'm jacked up for that. That's going to be a good one. They should have flexed it. And it's late slate with cheese Bengals. Whoa. That's that's so much revenge going on. We got to bring our hard hats on Sunday, boys. That's a lot of good late football. We haven't had a late slate in a long time. We've had to focus. Everything is going to be great about that. And the night with Colts Cowboys. Boom. Should have been flexed. Should have been. You should have listened to Jake. Should have been flexed. Um, okay. Uh, yeah. Saints. I don't just fuck off. Like, honestly, respectfully, fuck off. Kindly fuck off. They just Saints. They, if they had won this game and it would tall

task to win this game, but the Saints are, it's got to be maddening to be a Saints fan this year because they have these games where their defense plays well and they can't put together an entire team, you know, game and then everyone else in their division loses. Yeah. And it's just like, you could have won this game and you would have been tied for first place. Also Saints, you have Taysum Hill, you have Alvin Kamara, you've got Chris Olave, who's awesome. You've got, oh yeah, you remember Jarvis Landry? Kevin White. You remember him? You got him. You have Kevin White. I don't think he was active today. That's okay. Uh, it's actually really fucked up when he gets catches. ESPN doesn't even put it up. Like they don't have his picture. Okay. That's what it is

on here. That's messed up. You've got, you've got great talent. You've got fun guys to watch. Yeah. All it takes be fun. All it takes is the simplest change of all time. We need like the most obvious changes all time. Dennis Allen, we need, we need to go down to New Orleans and do the Gordon Bombay and just put out a beach ball. Look how fun this is. Oh, we just, I think we've been too nice to Dennis Allen. Yeah. We need to start like physically threatening him. Your name's Dennis. I'm not saying that I'm going to beat the shit out of Dennis Allen, but if I have to watch Andy Dalton for the rest of the season, I'm going to, I'm going to punch him. Yeah. I'm going to punch, I'm going to, I'm going to find Dennis Allen. I'm going to punch him. Yeah. Not

his face. I'm going to give him like a Charlie horse. What's so I'm going to physically assault Dennis Allen. Never, never trust a man with two first names. Yeah. I mean, Dennis and Allen are perfect names. Dennis and Allen. It's either that or like shitty lawyer names. Yeah. Don't know. Dennis Allen. We don't like you. Those are uncles. Yeah. Two uncles. You're worse than Nathaniel Hackett and that's the meanest thing I could say about anyone. I'm going to fucking punch you. Um, all right. Chargers, Cardinals, Chargers 25, Cardinals 24. This was, this was actually similar to the Brown's box game. The Cardinals were up 24, 17 and they, there was 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter. They go three and out. They punt. Chargers can't do anything.

They go three and out. They punt. Chargers can't do anything. They go three and out. They punt. Chargers score touchdown. It was basically just building up to like eventually Justin Herbert will score a touchdown and then Brandon Staley goes for true to win the game in regulation, which I like that had nothing to do with analytics. That was like we, they keep punting to us and we can't score. We got to just end it right now. Yeah. So I, yeah, I mean the, the Chargers like that was a game that Chargers usually lose, but the Cardinals are worse than the Chargers. Yeah. And, and, and like shoot themselves in the foot more than the Chargers. It was very confusing looking up at the television when this game was being played at the same time as, as the

chiefs were playing against the Rams because from a color perspective, it was all blue and red all across my television. Yeah. And so I kept mistaking, this is what like the score of this game, which ended up being what 25-24, that felt like what I would expect out of a Rams chiefs game. Yes. Just from a points perspective, it was, it was, I think exactly what I thought would happen to these Cardinals and that they, they always find new and innovative ways to lose. They're now 12, 27 and one at home since 2018. That's crazy. Which is, that's nuts. Like they, I'll say it again, 12, 27 and one at home since 2018. They have, they have no home field advantage to speak of. I think they're, they're trying to like open and close the window to the stadium. Like

you're not your mercy. Cortez was there. Okay. Cortez was there. If you're a Cardinals fan, you got to be so upset just knowing that Kyler Murray and Kyler, to his credit Kyler didn't play poorly all day today. No, he didn't. He did have that one bad interception on fourth and one. And everybody was like, why aren't you hitting the ball at James Connor? Throws an interception and they asked him about it after the game. Kyler Murray, to his credit, he said schematically, we were kind of fucked on that play. So yeah, so schematic from a scheme point of view. Well, you shouldn't have thrown that interception. I feel like Cliff Kingsbury leads the league in third and ones, fourth and ones throw it deep. Like he just doesn't want to run the ball. Yeah.

And it turns out a steroid boy, Deandre Hopkins, is not taking good enough steroids. He didn't look that great today. Needs more. Needs more. Better steroids. Cliff Kingsbury also was asked after if he's worried about his job because the Cardinals aren't a bye week. And he just replied, I'm not. Okay. So he should be. Yeah. That's good. Maybe he's not in the fact. If you're Cliff Kingsbury, why would you ever have to be worried about a job? Well, he's also probably like, I'm not worried because if they fire me, I don't care. Yeah. I'm still Cliff Kingsbury. I'm gonna, someone's gonna hire me next week. Yeah, I'll probably get the Colorado job or Supreme Court justice. Yeah, right. I've made a lot of money and I'm Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah, he'll be okay. Yeah.

Okay. Last game, the rowback game of the week. Go to rowback right now. I'm wearing the joggers, rowback release performance joggers and the hoodie, the best in the world, hoodies, q zips, polos, joggers, everything super comfortable. My parents love. So is my dad loves the rowback. Use code take rowback.com, RHO, BACK.com, use code take and you can get 20% off your first purchase, rowback.com. Highly recommended. Last game, rowback game, Raiders, Seahawks, very fun game and holy shit, Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs had 303 yards. He was insane. 229 yards running, two touchdowns, six catches for 74 yards. The Raiders now have won back-to-back walkoff overtime games. It's the only way they can win games. Fun stat about Derek Carr, he's

nine and one in overtime. Yeah, he's Mr. Overtime. So it was a great handoff that he gave to Josh Jacobs, who then ran what, 82 yards? Yeah. It was perfectly executed. And the Seahawks, it feels like the Seahawks and the Giants, those are the two teams you'd circle and be like, they might run out of gas. Yeah. I mean, it's fun. The whole GenoSmith has been, it's been incredible. It's been amazing to watch. Nobody saw this GenoSmith happening this year, but I think everyone's been waiting for GenoSmith to write back. Yeah. He's starting. He's starting to write back. He's starting slowly. They do have, I looked at their schedule, because I was like, I kind of want to see Oxy make the playoffs. They play the Rams twice,

so that's good. And they also play the Panthers and the Jets at home. I don't know if they split that and they beat the Rams twice. They're a 10-win team, maybe. I would like them to make the playoffs. It could happen. I would like them to make the playoffs just because of the Russell Wilson story. Now, I'm rooting against them just because they seem like the biggest competition to all four NFC teams getting in. That's true. That's true. But yes, it would be very fun for Russell Wilson purposes to see them make the playoffs. Yes. And just like, out, you know, the best revenge is living well. This would be incredible revenge. It would be the best, the best revenge. And the Raiders are just, I'll say this, if the Raiders are going to just play

fun games, I'm cool with that. They have a fun team. They've been depressing before this. Right. Now, what was it about the Raiders decision making that they've gotten rid of all their first-round picks, right, from the last six years? Yeah. No longer with the team. The one good guy that you've drafted, correct, you don't give the fifth year or two. And Josh Jacobs is, he's an awesome runner. He's always been good. He's been a little bit banged up in the past, but when he's been healthy, he's been an elite running back and they're not giving him the fifth year. And it feels like this whole season has been like a Josh Jacobs giant middle finger. Fuck you to the Raiders for not paying him. Yes. Like, did Mike Mayock run out of coupons?

Why, like, why did they not elect to give this guy the fifth year last year? It makes no sense. He had a slow start to the season. And then since then, he's just been like ripping off 100-yard games. He had a couple, a couple under 100-yard games, but it's basically, as Josh Jacobs goes, the Raiders go. And when he's awesome, they win games. And yeah, I don't understand it either. Why, why wouldn't you? The only thing I can think of is because they're broke. It's also like, that's a lot of money. Isn't the running back the one guy, like the one position you want to give the fifth year to and then not have to give him a huge contract? A huge contract, exactly. So I don't, I don't understand it. It's like me verbal meme. Me and college handshake

Raiders and Josh Jacobs regret not taking that fifth year because like this is a no-brainer to end all no-brainers. He's awesome. He's awesome. And yeah, it's like a franchise tag. It's like a mini franchise tag that you could give him. Yeah. Yeah. Makes no sense. All right. So let's do a little Thanksgiving day. We're running, my voice is running out. I feel like shit, but Thanksgiving, bills, I don't know. I mean, here's what one thing I'll throw out there. I don't know why it's become, maybe it's because we're biased and we're very open with our bias that we love Josh Allen. He's our best friend. We love him. But I had a lot of people tweeting me being like, you guys overrate this guy. He's, he's, he's not that good. It's like, if Josh Allen's

not that good, then no one is good. Well, I literally no quarterback is good. For the most part, I've narrowed it down. If you are still a Josh Allen hater, you're either a chief fan and you're, you're pissed off because we, I, I love Josh Allen. Patrick Mahomes is better than Josh Allen. They're both great. There you go. They're both great. And I'm fine with saying that. I don't think Josh Allen would be upset. Patrick Mahomes is on another planet. So you're either a chief fan. I've noticed some Bengals fans are also doing that because they're like, our guy, I'd rather have our guy Joe than your guy Josh. And yeah. Okay. Okay. And so I understand where that's coming from a little bit, but I don't think that any besides fans of those two teams,

I don't really, Patriots fans, Patriots fans, I think they respect the hell out. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. It was sort of that out there. You okay. Jets fans maybe. No, I beat them. Well, no, because then you just, you wish that you had your own Josh Allen for the Jets. I, I, we beat Josh when Brady, you know, the Patriots are the better team. And then now it's kind of his, it's his division. Right. But I just, I, I was very confused why people were saying this. Like, and then he made that laser throw to win the game. And it was like, that was the nastiest. Oh, it's also Vikings fans that get pissed off that we don't give Kirk enough. Oh, yeah. Because they think that like our praise is finite. And every time we praise Josh Allen, like every sentence

we say, that's praise that could be better spent adding to Kirk Cousins and Vikings fans do get upset. Like when the bills won that game, I was like, that was a tough, like the Lions are scrappy. The bills just won two games in four days when they basically didn't have a home. Credit to them. That's hard to do. And they're like, Oh, and the Vikings do it. You don't give them credit. And it's like, listen, the Vikings are a good team. Josh Allen's ceiling, Kirk Cousins ceiling. There's a big difference. That's how I view the teams. Yeah. Josh Allen can win you a Super Bowl. Kirk Cousins cannot. That throw that that Josh Allen made was just he's the only quarterback I think that can make that. Yeah. I don't think Patrick Mahomes can make that throw. It's not a

takeaway from Patrick Mahomes. He does other things that Josh Allen doesn't do that. That's super impressive on its own. But Josh. No, no, Josh Allen's like pure arm strength. Josh is the only guy that I could see making that throw. And to be honest with you, that's one of the throws that like a couple of weeks ago when his elbow was 100%, like he wouldn't make that it would get intercepted. Right. It would be a disastrous throw. Yeah. So that was my big takeaway from that game. The Cowboys shout out the Giants all time, all time backdoor cover. Like they just never gave up. Yeah. I love that from them. Table freaking out. It was also the over. It was the over. Yeah. And the over, the overs club, which we hit easily. That probably had, I mean, I know what happened

in my family. It was right at that time too, where like the families are all still together. And there's definitely a lot of people like AWOs that were rooting for the Giants to cover the spread or the over, where aunts and uncles are probably like, what, this game's over. Why is this hat? Why are you celebrating like this? Thankfully, I've gotten to a point in life where I can just say out loud, like I just told everyone out loud. I was like, Hey, I have, we're trying to score 145 points today. That's number one. And then I was like, and I have the Giants, so this is important. And everyone's like, okay, cool. Like they know, like I'm gambling today. It's my holiday. We tried to get this, we tried to get the, the bills,

Lions game turned on, on one of the TVs in Qatar, where they were showing, broadcasting all the World Cup games. They didn't understand why American football was so important on Thanksgiving. Yeah. It was, it was difficult trying to track down a pirated stream that worked over there. Yeah. Because Qatar is not, they're not huge NFL fans yet. Yes. We're converting them, but it's going to take a while. And then your game, Hank Patriots, Vikings, Vikings deserve credit. That was a good win for them. Kirk Cousins. That was probably Kirk Cousins best game of the season. He was, he was pretty much lights out the entire game. I think he might add one pick, but like he was

very, very good. The entire game, uh, Mack Jones looked okay. Well, you actually look better than okay. He looked good. He looked good on bombs. It was more of the Patriots just did the things that you never expect out of a Belichick team, special teams, and like dumb penalties. I mean, it was special teams. There's the kickoff return touchdown, which there was probably a holding penalty that they didn't call. Not going to blame the refs. Uh, but then the game really ended when they got the running into the kicker, third and five Vikings got the ball back scored. Game was pretty much over. What about the Hunter Henry catch? That was a total like live and die. That was a touchdown. That was the Jesse James catch.

And there, but then everyone was putting up the, the Kelsey clip from earlier in the year where it was like the same thing. And his was, uh, the guy, the, the NBC, whoever the ref correspondent for that day was, I wasn't really familiar with him. He's on the list. Oh, he was, he's Adam and he was watching the film where you don't even see him hit the ground. He's like, nope, hits the ground clearly, clearly not a touchdown. But the video that they were showing just completely discarded it. It was a touchdown. It was absolutely was a touchdown. I thought Jesse James is a touchdown too. You, you, you got the benefit off that one. The Steelers. Yeah. Patriots game. But yeah, that was, that was one of those ones. It was actually kind of like the DK Metcalf

one. It's like, okay, yeah, if we slow it down and like to the nth degree, yeah, I guess it's not, but it's a touchdown. Also the CD lamb one from earlier in the Cowboys game that made even less sense. Yeah. It was a touchdown. It should have been a touchdown. I agree. I completely agree. I just, I woke up the next day because that game started at about five a.m. I tried to stay up to watch it and I woke up and the first thing that I saw was Patriots fans like highlighting the rule book and showing why that should have been a catch. And to their credit, the NFL's explanation of it was he didn't survive the ground. Surviving the ground hasn't been in the rule book for like the ball didn't hit the ground. Yeah. I mean, I'm saying I'm saying I'm talking about surviving the

ground like getting up from the ground, all that stuff. That didn't make no sense. That was a touchdown. And the guy was adamantly that Terry's on. Terry's on my list. Who else is on the list? It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Walk me through just the story. I mean, Florio's probably at the top. Terry, Dungey, Tony. Who's Tony? You guys on the floor. Oh, okay. This BFT. Both both. I'm not on the list. I'm a Patriot. Remember, I started to do your pan fiction. Yeah. Reggie Miller. I just can't stand them. Oh, okay. I like that. Just throw that in there. The city of Philadelphia. It was a good day of Thanksgiving football though. A lot of points. It was an exciting game. I mean, going from that Jets game and being like, this is going to be another stinker probably. Kirk Cousins prime time

last week. It was the ugliest game of all time. We couldn't even score a touchdown till the last minute. It was a very enjoyable Thanksgiving evening up until, you know, the fact that we lost. And it was, I was tracking the Overs Club all day and I was like, we're just going to need a Mack Jones vs. Kirk Cousins shootout. And then it happened. It was like, this is fucking rules. The other takeaway is that I think Micah Parsons, when he's activated, is like the best defensive player in the NFL. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's his league. When they turn them loose. It's his league. And they just say, okay, Micah, your assignment is to just go out there and fuck everything up. He might be the best football player. Yeah. He's incredible. And Noah, I mean,

Jared fights harder than anyone. He's in the same game every week. Well, he did what he had to do. And I think that every single week for the last two years, what Dan Campbell did at the end of the game, people were crushing him for it for not using his timeouts. But his logic was kind of sound, which was, I don't want to give Josh Allen any time to win this game. Yeah. He just, who could have imagined that Josh Allen could have done what he did in like 13 seconds, 12 seconds. It didn't make any sense. Don't say 13. 12 seconds. It was like 12 seconds. It was more. It was like 30. Yeah, it was like 30. Was it? Yeah. Is that many? Yeah. Maybe it was different from the Qatari. It was the conversion. The conversion rate. It was actually

300 years ago in Qatar based on some of the laws that they have. All right, let's do, do you have football guys? I have Billy's football. All right, so football guys brought to you by the Barstool Sports Store. We mentioned at the top of the show, it's the final countdown, the biggest sale of the year, and tonight with our iconic Telethon. Tune in, 7 p.m. will be there, get 20% off site-wide, shop over 300 new items on the Barstool Sports Store, over 300 new pieces. We really appreciate everyone who does it. We said it at the beginning of the show, but it really means a lot to us because the store is the backbone of this company. So that is what football guys brought to you by Jake. Yes, this is sent in from Billy. Hope

you get well soon, Billy. Number one, Thaddeus Longmore. He's a middle schooler born without arms and plays tackle football. Okay. Oh, wow. That's impressive. Yeah. That's what Billy's what was. I got to piss probably. I'm guessing not. Not quarterbacking. Or rod machine. I think you play defense. Yeah, play defense. I think he blocks. Does he? Well, it's about your feet. Football is very fun being a tight end blocking and feeling like a part of the team. Okay. This is unprecedented. He's a blocker. No. Me and big cat both peed during the Dungeons and Dragons episode. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Number two, Devon Danielsson, defensive lineman from Pittsburgh. He banged his head against his helmet. I saw that. That was awesome.

And all his bench in the background, bench's reaction was incredible. He's flowing. Yeah. Billy's comments, self-explanatory. Okay. Number three, Nick Saban in his post game press conference. He got hit in the middle of the game, I believe. He had little stuff on his cheek. He said, I took one of the hardest hits in the whole game. And unlike some of our players, I didn't have to go to the medical tent. They don't make him like they used to. Yeah. Anytime somebody that old starts to breathe though, I just, I just think that like this guy could possibly die. Agreed. And lastly, we have the Montana mascot ran into goalposts. Okay. That Montana game, I was driving home. I got back late and I just turned it on. The Montana crowd was one of the most

electric crowds I've ever seen. Montana's a good football state. They were down like 24 points. I think I turned it on. It was right in the middle of the comeback. They were going, it was, it was 1230. I turned it on because I was just trying to watch sports center and see the highlights from the day. That's two. Oh, only bottle and a half. I feel like Jake could see my dick, by the way, through his periphery. Yeah. No, I can tell Jake could totally see my dick. You like what you saw? No, I didn't see it. Shout out to just shout out to the Montana fans. I turned the game on trying to watch highlights and it was like one of the most raucous atmospheres I've ever seen. Yeah. It is a great football state. And I think they've got one of those stadiums that just has

mountains in the background. And anytime there's mountains behind anything, I will watch it. I will love it. Yeah. It's kind of like Bill's mafia too. They're all bundled up but just going fucking apeshit. Yeah. Yeah. They are. Yeah. They're the Western equivalent of Buffalo for sure. I just got really scared because I was like, oh, no, I'm pissing blood, but I forgot that we put we put lean in there. Yeah. We put our cough drops in the bottom of our bottles. All right. I'm all good. Thank you, Jake and Billy football guy of the week. Who are you voting for, Jake? It's got to be Thaddeus Longmore. Oh, the guy with no arms. Yeah. Yeah. I need some. I need to see some stats. Yeah. Stats. You want to see stats? How many pancakes? You're showing video?

All right. I'll do this. What if he's a kicker? Oh, yeah. An incredible kicker. Oh, he blocks. What if Billy just got duped? What if Billy made this up? Well, we'll see. Yeah. I mean, good for him. It's fucking incredible story. Great name. Yeah. Great name. Thaddeus Longmore. That's a great name. I'm strong. I'm googling. I hope he wins. Oh, okay. Here we go. No arms, no problem. Northwest Junior High's Thaddeus Longmore loves Longmire, loves playing football. Also, I think someone did. I'm Billy this like this week because it's from October 10th. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. But shout out to him. He deserves to be on football guy of the week. I hope he wins because that's a fucking awesome story. He wears a t-shirt with a hashtag. Oh, it's Thaddeus Longmire.

Yeah. The hashtag on his shirt is hashtag don't need to. I like this kid. All right. This guy's a winner. This guy's our guy. Football guy of the week. He has to win. He has to win. All right. Let's wrap it up with who's back of the week. Brought to you by our friends at Visible with Visible's One Line Wireless Plan. The data is unlimited and all yours so you can stream all holiday games or movies you want from almost anywhere. Leave the family plan drama and get a One Line Wireless Plan with Visible. It's just $30 a month. Tax and fees included. Start saving with Visible's One Line Wireless Plan. Switch today at Visible.com. Get up to $300 gift card when you buy a select device. Don't wait. This offer ends $11.29. Hank. Jake, what are you laughing at, Jake?

What are you laughing at, Hank? Is it the fact I peed? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. That's what it is. Mine is back of the week. I got a couple, couple stars in the spotlight for different reasons. Okay. First one's OBJ. Yeah. Big time back. Everyone's talking about where he's going to end up and then the report came out Sunday morning that he got kicked off of a flight, commercial flight in Miami because he was like passing out and then caused a scene when they asked him to wake up or stop moving around. They asked him to put a seatbelt on allegedly. Now, I'm, I think I'm Tim O'Dell on this. I might be Free O'Dell. Anyone that causes a scene on a plane and causes everyone to get off? Like I can't, it's hard for me to be on your team.

That part sucks. However, according to O'Dell's lawyer, and this is like when your lawyer's typing out notes app statements, you know, things are going swimmingly. And he said that O'Dell, as he does before flights, covered his head in a blanket to just relax on an airplane. And yeah, he may have been falling asleep. The flight attendants came over, asked him to buckle up if he could. He didn't hear them asking because he had his blanket over his head, which is what O'Dell does every time he flies on an airplane. And so then the next thing O'Dell knew, the flight attendants and the police were over surrounding him like a common criminal. They took his blanket off and they said, O'Dell, you need to get off this flight. Spot the crime. Can't find one.

People were mad though. Yeah, just a weird, weird twist of the story of the O'Dell Beckham sweepstakes. And then my other who's back is our friend, Patty the Batty. Yes. All time funny video came out online. Someone put it out there. It's a ring video, black and white. And it's just Patty the Batty walking up to the door and basically ringing the doorbell to tell the woman that his dog took a massive shit outside his house, took a sloppy shit right outside his house. He's a gentleman. Just hilarious. Just the accent, the view, the fact that it's Patty. Just very, very funny video. Yes. Six and a half million views in a couple days. Incredible. Love it. Fighting in two weeks. Love it. PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is the James Madison University Dukes.

What about you? Yeah. We did. Oh yeah, I came back. Yeah. Well, listen. Did you even go? Yeah. Come on. Yeah. No, I'm back. This is really me. This isn't the replacement PFC. I'm so happy you're back. Thanks, Jake. Well, when you tweeted like back in the United States, I'm like, I was never worried. Like I said, I was asked and I said it was a 1.5. Well, I did. There are some things that you'll see that will come out whenever the video does come out because we've got a lot of footage we're editing together right now. Went over there, spent time in Qatar with Donnie does, the wanton Don, Michelangelo, the producer, the Amir. You may have heard of him. He's the fucking Amir. Everybody knows him. And there may have been some activities that we participated in

that are traditionally not legal in Qatar that might carry certain punishments. You guys fucked each other? We kissed. Donnie and I made out. No, no, we didn't. But there's all I'm going to say because Donnie is still overseas in Qatar. Okay. We actually, this has all been a bit, we didn't break the law at all. But make sure to watch the video when it comes out to see what it is that we did do. The Amir was a gracious host. We ended up, so we talked a lot about the Amir, tweeted a lot about the Amir, and we ended up eating Thanksgiving dinner in the Amir's suite. Not with him. What is an Amir? Is it a guy? Is it a person? Is it a title? It's all of the above and so much more. The Amir is gracious.

He's a wonderful person. He's a scholar. Is his name Amir? No, so Amir. That would be weird. So there are different Emirates over in the Middle East. Emirates are names of kingdoms that they have that are governed by a religious slash political leader, you could say. But they're not elected. They're chosen by God because they're better than everybody else. And so it is pretty cool. So the Amir owns like everything over there. And basically, he's such a fucking baller that he decided that the best way to make his dad proud of him was to just spend $220 billion and get the World Cup brought to his small country. I bet his dad is proud. His dad's very proud of him. So it was... How'd you get invited to the suite? It's a long story. Like a friend of a friend of a

friend ran into the guy that does the Everest equivalent over there. No way. And he was there. So we partied with him the first night and then he was like, I've got tickets to the Amir suite. And so then we went to the game, went through like 20 levels of security, like people stopping you every five feet and being like, who are you here with? Let me see your credentials. Then we end up in the suite for the Switzerland Cameroon game. And that was fun. There was not alcohol served because it was the Amir suite. We didn't want to disrespect his wishes. So we had a great time over there. We traveled all around. There's going to be so many videos that are going to come out. It's going to be interesting, but I can't say what it is we did that could get Donnie in hot water.

Yeah, until Donnie gets back. Until Donnie is home safe. But it was great. We went. I spent the entire week that I was there telling every single British person that I saw. You were there for two days. Yeah, well, two and a half days. Yeah. So every week, every single person that I saw, I told them, we're going to tie the shit out of you. It's going to be fucking tie. I told everybody. I was like, the Brits, you can say what you want about your team. You think you're hot shit because you beat Iran. We're going to tie you. You've never been tied harder than we're about to tie you on Friday. They all said I was full of shit that I didn't know footy who's laughing. Yeah, America. It was the best, the greatest tie of all time. The tie heard around the world. We were

calling it the the a miracle on grass and it was incredible. Can't wait for you guys to see the video. Was there a small part of you that was the tie was great. It was perfect time. But you traveled all that way and didn't get to see a goal. I traveled halfway around the world. Cameroon. I would try to score in that Switzerland did. Hell yeah. Nice. I traveled halfway around the world with a singular mission to bring home a fucking tie to the United States. And that's what I did. We tied the goal would have been nice. Goal would have been nice. But I was just it was as I was watching the game. I was like, this would kind of suck if there was no goals. Yeah. So the thing about thing about Qatar is every second there feels like it feels

you know, like you're scoring a thousand goals because of what a great country is and how great of a job that the Amir is done. It's not that hot. It was like 80 degrees while we were there. 88. The thing I heard about I learned about Qatari people. They most Qatari people don't work ever because they're all if you are from Qatar, you're just rich. That's just your job is just to be rich. This sounds like a country for you and you just spend money on flexes. You get really into falconry. You buy boats. Cars. You go on luxurious vacations. You drive cars very fast around European cities and don't get arrested. This is the type of thing that you do if you're involved in the Qatari government. The people that work over there, they're all the workers that come from other

countries to do all the actual jobs. Got it. The most employment that you have if you're like a Qatari person is you tell people like, where's my money at the end of this month? Love how come there wasn't enough money this month compared to last money. And that's kind of what you do is your job. That's pretty cool. What was it like being in a full stadium of people, especially soccer fans, but they couldn't drink and weren't drunk before going in or could you pregame? There were places that we could drink legally and otherwise not open till 6 p.m. or something. No, no, there's other places that you could drink from like 8 a.m. until whenever. It was not just in stadiums, but in general, it was unusual being in large groups of people

who were all totally sober because that usually never happens in real life. Usually, if you can see like 200 people around you, 50% of them are drunk. Right. That's kind of the math that I usually do. There was no like the ratio was all off. That's another thing. It was all dudes because what girls are going to make a girls trip to Qatar for the World Cup? That's not really a thing that happened. You can't even let your hair out, right? Yeah. What's up? You can't even let your hair out literally. No, you can. It's a more progressive place than maybe you might think. It's not like people are wearing burkas all the time. Some of the employees, some of the people that work there, if you are a Muslim, the rules are stricter on you. If you're a Muslim, then they are if you're

a foreigner who's not a Muslim. So they kind of like, and there was a big like understanding it felt like the entire time that be cool, that let's not have an international incident. Right. So we're not going to arrest people for every small little thing that's going on. But at the same time, if you saw people that were getting like a little out of line, there would be people that went up to them and like had had words and were like, Hey, why don't you start respecting the Amir a little bit more? Damn. So it was it was pretty cool. It was unusual. Making a return trip. I would like to go back there in like two years. Great week. To see what the hell the country is like at that point. Because this is no joke. In the last 12

years, they spent $220 billion building the city. So everything that you see there is brand new. From the second you walk in, the airport, the airport is like the most luxurious place that you've ever been. It's got a spa. It's got steam rooms. It's got cars in the duty free shop. You can buy a McLaren for a million dollars, but not pay the duty taxes on it. That's awesome. I should have done that. Yeah, I forgot my checkbook. But it was it was a really it was an interesting place. And it's going to be really nothing that they built is going to be usable in like five weeks. Damn. So basically it was $220 billion to throw a sick party to throw a sick party with no booze to one impress your dad. Yeah, yeah, no booze, no chicks. That's kind of a sick party.

And then a 12 year olds party. It was like impress your dad. And then also that place, Hawker make MBS jealous and Saudi Arabia and make him try to spend a bunch of money to get the next World Cup, which could happen. That could happen. But it's a yeah, it was an interesting trip. Video is going to be excellent. I'm happy you're back. I'm happy that I came back to but I was all Donnie and I we know when to push when to pull, I think. And when we push this time, I think it was it was strategically smart. So I never felt like I was in danger. Good. Good. Yeah. And it was a great tie. It was a wonderful time. Great tie. And one of the stadiums looks like a vagina. It does. Everyone. That's a fact. Yeah. Yeah, it does. It does. In fact, it was designed

to look like a vagina. In fact, for as much as they don't deal with they don't like sex stuff in Qatar, everything over there resembles some sort of sexual. I would imagine there's a lot of tension. Yes, there's a ton of tension. Yeah. Yeah. All right. My who's back is the Badgers, Wisconsin Badgers, Luke Fickle. I got to know where they hired Luke Fickle. It's all coaches, Carousel, Matt ruled in Nebraska. We don't know what's going on with Auburn still. But not laying kiffin. Not laying kiffin. It's a huge freeze, right? But he hasn't signed yet. Yeah. And also there's a report. Hold on. I'm going to find it. Cadillac Williams announced that 12 players on the team have given their life to crisis year. So I feel like he's

making a good push for this. Does that does that improve their right? I don't know. College football play out. I don't know. But yeah, college football. We'll talk about it all on Wednesday. Luke Fickle completely out of left field. Never even thought he was available. Love the hire. Excited because Wisconsin could not have been more like bottomed out this year. But yeah, we'll get into the whole college football playoffs because it's maybe the least exciting championship Saturday we've had in a long time. It feels like everything's pretty much set, except maybe the Pac 12 championship. Or like, yeah, if, if TCU loses in the big 12 championship, what does that affect? I think they're still in. I think that there's a lot of voters out there that are chomping at the bit.

The way Ohio State lost changes a lot of how everyone viewed like if Ohio State lost close, it would have been different. The fact they got absolutely smushed by Jim Harbaugh yet again. That was awesome. That was awesome. Ryan Day born on third. But yeah, Luke Fickle, Wisconsin's back. I'm very, very excited. I don't, it's been a long time since I've been this excited about the Badgers. It's a good hire. Yeah. And recurring guest. Jake, finish us off before I totally lose my voice. My who's back is slapping. We had an emergency podcast when Will Smith had the slap and now we have it on the basketball court. I don't know if you guys saw this video, but Doug Eddard, NCAA tournament legend from St. Peter's. He transferred to Bryant. They beat

Syracuse this weekend. We don't need to talk about that aspect of this, but Drew Demintz from Syracuse and Doug Eddard gotten a slap off and they both got ejected. And this was very interesting. They were seeing a slap off on the basketball. Doug made a business decision to slap off. Extricated himself from the slapping. All time. Quick business. Yeah. Don't don't really blame him. But he brought, he brought like a smack to a slap fight. Yeah. He ran so fast. Yeah. And Syracuse fucked up. They slapped first. They did slap first and they lost. So yeah. Oh, why is JMU back? Good question, big cat. Because JMU, in my mind and in your mind, yeah, are the Sunbelt East champions. I'm giving it to them because they covered with ease against

Coastal. It was, it was impressive. That's their second top 25 win of the season. Damn. The other being when they beat themselves when Todd Senteo was a little bit banged up and they were ranked 25 in the nation. But I think that, uh, I think it's a bullshit rule that they're not allowed to participate in the Sunbelt championship and they're not allowed to participate in the bowl season, all that shit. Pizza party. The pizza party. I said that I would throw them a pizza party. I'll match. Big cats matching. We're going to throw them a pizza party. Okay. It'll be a pizza party. The likes of which they've never seen before. Uh, I'm thinking 20. You think 20 pies more? 30? 40. So I had like half the offensive line hit me up after the game being like,

where's this pizza party? So I got to figure out how to do it. You got 20. I got 20. So 40. We matched. Okay. We'll do 40 chanelos pizzas. No, how about some part of my cheesesteaks? We could also, we could toss in some cheesesteaks and then we'll do some chanelos, cheesy bread too. Some two liters of soda. Some coffee. Some coffee. Uh, should we, I was thinking that we do a banner too. Like Sunbelt, Sunbelt East champions. But a small one. Yeah. I never said how big the banner would be. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be, uh, personalized, but they're probably not allowed to hang in the stadium due to conference regulations. But I mean, it's not their fault that they're banned from the postseason. It's bullshit. The school moved up their first season ever in, uh, FBS and they

win their fucking conference division. That rule should only be if you move down. I agree. I agree. But like what they did this year was legitimately incredible and it was fun to watch. So a pizza party shall be yours. I'm just trying to figure out how I go about doing this pizza party. Or we just order, call up a pizza place and order order it to the, to the stadium. So the, be like one of the offensive linemen. All right. If you are, give us the night. Yeah. Okay. If you're, we'll just order a bunch of, if you're an offensive linemen at JMU, uh, DM me, let me know where you live. Let me know what time would be appropriate. I will then send you all the money and then you buy the pizzas. No, I think we have to buy the pizzas. That's a pizza party. It's a terrible idea. Well,

hang on. All right, fine. Fuck it. First of all, you said they already DM'd you. So just DM one of them back and be like, where do you want the pizzas and at what time? Yeah. And then we will order the, where, what time pizzas and then we're going to order too many pizzas for you. Yeah. 41 kids going to get one pizza and then have like 300 bucks. Yeah, I know. Yeah. 40 pizzas. Yeah. Sunbelt champions. All right. Um, that's our show. Uh, numbers. So I, on Friday, Black Friday, in an effort to promote. Wait, wait, before you do this, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to do 17 Big Cat. In an effort, in an effort to promote some merch, I said, if you, uh, buy some part of my take item

between me, the receipt with a number, I'm going to put your name. I made a giant Google spreadsheet took me all afternoon over 150 names. It's all organized. I was going to, uh, start with a number that was most suggested, which was 17. PFT took that like an absolute. What? Beotch. What, you took your fucking time figuring out what number you're going to pick. I was trying to explain it. I was trying to move the show. Wait, you have to win with your number, not someone else's. No, I'm, I'm using these are my numbers. These are just suggestions from these people. I'm going to go with 31. By the way, if you win 18, you think they'll be like, we'll just like go crazy and like, I'll go crazy. I was just thinking like, what if we went crazy and like, you know,

like a college basketball locker room where they're just spraying water on them? That would be crazy. I think if I sprayed water on them all over the place, if you hit this, I'm dumping my urine on you. Just so you know, I'm just saying that right now. I'm dumping my urine on you. If you hit this. All right, fine. Okay. So shout out to the people that, uh, so what's your number? 31. Have you ever gotten it? Make Lorian McBaren, mid hat, Mike J. R. All right. Uh, 17 max. 20. 18. Memes has three. Memes has three. What? I have 64. He's texted his, his submission. 31, baby. Give it to me. Give it to me. Oh my God. This is going to be disgusting. I don't care. 78. 78.

I, this is fucked up because now I think it's on my list. I think Hank's going to get it now. With somebody else. Yeah. With someone else's number. But Hank, what happens if you get it? Do you then can, you have to continue to use other people's numbers? Yeah. You never will get it with your own numbers. Shut up. I don't think, I think you'll get it with other people's numbers. This bullshit. No, it's not. Just a test one. Love you guys. A test? Yeah. No, this doesn't count. See everyone on Wednesday. 31. Oh,

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