Pardon My Take - NFL Week 12 Recap + Sean Salisbury

Episode Date: November 26, 2018

NFL Week 12 fastest 2 minutes (2:28 - 8:12). Breaking down all the Football we watched the last 5 games. The Browns are in the hunt, Big Ben had a classic Big Ben game, Hue Jackson remains a doofus, the NFC East is heating up and Chase Daniel is the perfect backup QB (8:12 - 24:19). Done Chain update and is Jim Harbaugh on the hot seat (24:19 - 36:59). Whos back of the week (36:59 - 54:15). Sean Salisbury joins the show to talk about the Texans, Baker Mayfield being a grown ass man, what's wrong with USC, and who we has making the CFB playoffs (54:15 - 90:11). Segments include Football Guy of the Week, Stay Woke the Dwight Howard thing doesn't make sense, Humans vs the Sun, Lowman Trophy update, and Embrace Debate. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we are back from Thanksgiving break. There was so much football, so much football the last five days that you watched that we're going to break down, starting with the fastest two minutes, then going into some discussion about NFL Week 12, then Sean Salisbury, and then we got some other stuff we got to clean up.

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Today is Monday, November 26th, Week 12. We start in the Queen's City for the Hooper Bowl between Hugh Jackson's former team that never won under his tutelage, versus Hugh Jackson's current team that never wins under his tutelage. Quaker Mayfield served up a steaming bowl of instant goat meal, finding his tight end in the second quarter, singing HABA, NAJOKU, HABA, NAJOKU for the star of David Nijoku in his six points as he was carried into the end zone like he was at a Jewish wedding. Pop the champagne Detroit Lions, the Cleveland Browns have won a game away from home, bringing

the worst streak on the road since Paul Walker to an end. Too soon, boom. And in the words of Alanis Morcette, isn't it ironic that Hugh Jackson got the game ball? Hugh, Hugh, Hugh, I don't know! Browns 35, Bungles 20. In Western New York, where the steel of the draft went up against the boat in a rematch of their famous 2018 playoff game, Geraldine Gordon Ramsey went absolutely mental. But one man's trash is another man's treasure, and Josh Ray Allen has Bill's fans almost

getting there. When you masturbate, think about my tongue, or your clit, and switching back and forth from my dick to my tongue, Sugar Ray Leonard Burnett fought his way out of the game and left his team saying, oof, my wrong, as the Jaguars got a standing three and eight count. Jaguars 24, Jaguars 21. And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. You horny boom? In Philly, where the New York football giants and Philadelphia Eagles square up for an NFC

East Prize fight. Oh, delet on the mountain. The giants are trying to run the table, but pardon my Jake Elliott. The Eagles have a different plan. Zack, I will let you down. I will make you earths. Johnny Cash Dean on a touchdown. Pat Sajak-Shermer can't buy a win, and it's time to hit the music on the 2018 giant season.

Se-quan me, se-quan me, se-quan me on Eagles 25, Giants 22. Psh, psh, psh, my cricculating the balls down the fence. What's on the spread? We head down to the metal lands, where Sony and Michelle's high school reunion dropped a blonde bombshell on the Jets. We have a situation in the Jersey Shore, as Rob from the government, Kronkowski, and James J. Wilde White reminded the NFL that the Pats are here, the Pats are here, but they won't be the only ones securing the bag.

As Cortarell Patterson latched on to Henry Adderson's scrotum, showing Bill Ballochek these Patriots can still deflate some balls. Tom Terrific broke the career yardage record, and it was not too long ago that a young Tommy Brady was just a fan at Candlestick where Swamp, yes, was. Yes, you're a Swamp. Witness the catch. Some hair. Patriots 27, Jets 13.

The Seahawks traveled to the Panthers, where Christian Bale McCaffrey cut up the Seattle defense like it was a high-priced hooker in New York City. Table for two at Dorcia, the game came down to the fourth quarter, which meant it was time for one man. I'm a Russela baby, I just want you to know, it ain't where I've been, but where I'm about to go. And that's a 2018 playoffs. Skeet Carroll has taken the Dunchain and turned it into a Pearl Necklace, and the

Seahawks are back in action. Seattle 30, Carolina 37. You like a Pearl Necklace? Just like that, just a Pearl Necklace. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

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Didn't wanna Viper in part three. No problem, but they're gonna go through form here. Tampa, Florida, it's such a fine sight to see. It's to Sean, my lord, and Peyton Barber's scored, throwing touchdowns to Adam Humphries. Come on, Nicky, stop throwing pickies. Ruben Foster's in jail, sounds like he's really shitting. In San Diego, Phillip Rivers was more accurate than his sperm

talking with an egg, completing 25 straight passes to the fallopian dudes, also known as the law firm of Eckler Gates, Allen and Gordon, your one-stop-stop for all paternity cases. The first act was great for Arizona, but the play must go on. And Steve John Wilkes Booth put a bullet in the back of the Cardinals' season set. Would anyone hold it against Josh Rosen

if he hates football now? Chargers 45, Cardinals 10. Finally, as is tradition, we head up north to our friends in Canada for the Grey Cup, where the Calgary Stampeders took down the Ottawa Red Blacks, 27-16. No way, those are the actual team names. Let's go down to the field.

Oh, yeah, it was a hard-fought game on both sides, and I just got to say, it was fun. No, it was fun to watch football. The beer was so cold that it almost froze, and it was just good. The guys were just out there, and Jim Carrey was there, and Mike Myers was there, too. It was a great show.

All of our guys were there. It was a great, great show, and you know what? Like, there was a lot of good hockey going on at the time, so we weren't really watching the game. Drizzy wasn't there, but he goes to the Raptors' games. We don't watch that, but he goes there. No, he goes there, and it's kind of fun. Drizzy.

It's Drizzy, and he's just, right now, you can be sure that he's a Calgary Stampeders fan, because they won. But you know what? He's also an Ottawa R-Words B-Words fan, too, because they lost, and you know what? They tried their best. They did.

They tried their best, and that's all that we can say. So back to you, Schwam. All right. Week 12 in the books, and we have not had a show for a few days. It's been Thanksgiving break. In that time, the Cowboys have gone to first place. The Browns are somehow in the hunt.

The Broncos are hot again. I don't know. They came out of nowhere, and the Falcons still suck and can't score in the red zone. And the Seahawks are really, really good. And the Seahawks are really, really good, and I want to start with my stat of the day. Are you ready for it?

Wait, I want to back you up for saying you say, and in that time, the Falcons don't know how to score in the end zone? Yeah, they don't. That's the red zone. Yeah. No, they still stink. Yeah, that's been like a three-year issue for them.

Yeah, they still stink. OK. My stat of the day. You ready? The Green Bay Packers are four, six, and one. The Cleveland Browns are four, six, and one. Whoa, baby. That is a stat of the day.

How about that? And you know, the last show that we had, we were talking a lot about Matt Flynn. We were discussing which one was the Matt Flynn game. But it actually got me thinking. Now we're. Well, that was a Canadian. You got a little Canadian there.

Got him up blood a little bit. It got me thinking. Now, we are a pro Mike McCarthy podcast. We've decided that we're going to. You know what? And there are a lot of stats that you can look at. 25th all-time in wins. Three active in wins.

Super Bowl, all-famer, baby. He got Matt Flynn to almost beat the Patriots. He got Matt Flynn to just dominate the Lions. He deals with the Surly Aaron Rodgers day in and day out. So what has the problem the whole time been Aaron Rodgers? Keep Mike McCarthy Packers. You want to have, you know, continuity there in Green Bay. So keep them.

But no, seriously, the Packers are finally officially dead. And they actually look like they don't want to play anymore. Yeah, they're like Aaron Rodgers has that face. Like, I don't read. Like, I'll flick it around and I'll throw it to guys. But they'll probably drop it. And I'll look really upset. And he's not even going to come up

with his fun buzzword this year. It's just over. He was missing a few throws, too. Yeah. Like some throws that normal Aaron Rodgers makes. Yeah. So I don't know if his brother got in his head. He had a bad Thanksgiving family week.

You know, he was trying to do the right thing and like tweet out the wildfire stuff. And then his brother just went at his neck. Can I say something in defense of Aaron Rodgers, even though it's disgusting and I hate to do it? Do you think that Aaron Rodgers maybe doesn't want to, like maybe his brother might be an asshole, that his brother is going to Twitter

to air out all the family stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Like, hey, you're actually the asshole, Jordan Rodgers. What does his brother say? His brother was like, hey, thanks for getting all this money donated, but it would kill you to call your mom when she has everything packed up and thinks

she's going to burn alive and has to drive away from the fires. He tweeted that. So it's like, I know what you're trying to do, Jordan Rodgers. You think you're pretty like, oh, man, Aaron Rodgers doesn't care about his family, but you're the asshole for airing out your family's dirty laundry on Twitter and being like, hey, Aaron, this will get him to care.

I'm going to put him on blast. So basically, Jordan did exactly what he accused Aaron Rodgers of doing, which is taking to Twitter instead of handling it indoors, handling it privately. So that whole situation. But yeah, the Packers are dead, officially dead. I'm going to officially say they're dead.

And we need to clean up our dung chain. We'll do that in a second. Real quick, I want to get back to McCarthy because the big knock on Big John, besides literally everything else that he's done, is that he just doesn't know when to go for it on 4th down. He plays too conservatively at times. Well, and also, he doesn't run.

He does the 4th down thing, which is the dumbest thing that all coaches do, where they run the ball straight up the middle on 3rd down, and then run the ball straight up the middle on 4th down. It's like, if you were going to go for it on 4th down, call something else on 3rd down. You know a bad coach when 4th down surprise them. They're like, oh, shit, it's 4th down.

Well, so what the hell? I think what's happened with him is he's had all the statisticians out there in his ear enough. He's finally heard from enough people like, you need to be more aggressive on 4th down occasionally. New age. But he fucking hates those people that tell him that. So he's like, fine, you know what?

I'll do it. All right, we'll see how it works. And then he kind of intentionally calls the worst player possible. Half back down. So it gets blown up so he can be like, see, I told you. It doesn't work. I told you that the whole time, you idiots.

Yes. Either that or he just hates numbers. I think he might just hate numbers. No, he definitely hates numbers. But he doesn't look at a scale. And it is officially coach firing season as well. We got to talk about another man's job. This is when the calendar turns.

And we got some coaches that Dirk Cutter and Todd Bowles and Marvin Lewis. Marvin Lewis, dare we say. Now, this is like seeing Marvin Lewis fired is like Haley's comic coming around. You're very lucky if you get to see it. OK, so Marvin Lewis, I need to say something to you. Yes, you have been a terribly, terribly mediocre head coach

oftentimes bad. You haven't won a playoff game. You've been the coach of the Bengals for like 5,000 days or something ridiculous. But you got to remember, coaching the Bengals, you're getting graded on a pretty significant curve. Of course, of course. But easily, easily the dumbest decision

that Marvin Lewis has ever made as a head coach was letting Hugh Jackson stand on the sidelines against the Browns. Because that one single picture of Marvin Lewis, like standing there, it's 35, 20. The Browns haven't won a road game in like three years. And you have Hugh Jackson breathing over your neck. And everyone took that picture and was like,

dumb and dumber, look at these two fucking idiots. You have to be smarter to not allow that picture to happen. If you want to hire Hugh Jackson, if he's your best friend, fine. Put him up in the fucking booth and don't let that picture get taken. Fire him just for that picture. But listen, you know Hugh Jackson.

He's not coaching from a booth. He loves cameras. He loves to be around. He needs to be on the sidelines just letting his hue flag shine. Hey, I'm here. I'm here. I'm not going anywhere.

He is the world. I don't know how he snaked his way into this job. But he's the world's dumbest resputant. He's whispering into Marvin Lewis's ear. And you know at the end of the season, it's either going to be Marvin or Hugh that takes the blame for it. Yeah, you get a power struggle going.

Yeah, they'll absolutely get a power struggle going. I can't believe that he's allowed to stand on those sidelines, that he's allowed to be the face of failure for the Bengals. Now, which he is, is that it might actually be a smart move now that I think about it on Marvin Lewis's part to be like, hey, look, I brought in the shithead. Well. And so now everyone, like at some point

starting the game, both the Bengals and Browns fans were all booing Hugh Jackson. Right. And if you want to do the spin zone, if you want to go further with that spin zone, the story coming out of that game was not the Bengals just gave the Browns their first win in road win in forever.

And they looked terrible. It was that Baker Mayfield was icy cold to Hugh Jackson. And Hugh Jackson was like trying to push out all the cameramen and be like, no, no, guess what, guys, he's my quarterback. I love him. And Baker just sat there like, come on, dude, get the fuck out of here. And then after the game, had the comments being like,

this guy, he told us to play for him. He asked us to play hard for him. And then the minute he gets fired, he goes and goes to a rival. And I love, we're pro Baker Mayfield podcast. Baker Defenders. But I love that he said that because so many times in pro sports, they will just do the hug and pretend to like each other.

And Baker's like, no, fuck this guy. He went. He bashed everyone in this building. He said he'd take every quarterback over me. And then he went to the Bengals. And you're goddamn right, you're lucky they didn't punch him in the face. Yeah, listen, I don't have a problem actually with Hugh

taking a job, because that was obviously the whole point of his media tour, was to keep his name out there, try to convince everybody it wasn't his fault, so that he could get a job. It didn't work. And he found that, no, it didn't work at all. But that was his intention.

And then he found the only franchise in America besides the Browns dumb enough to hire him. And so I don't fault him for taking a job. But at the same time, I don't fault Baker Mayfield for feeling that way towards you that he felt. And you know that Hugh was probably giving, well, I was going to say he was giving all the Browns secrets to the Bengals.

But I don't really know. I don't know what secrets Hugh Jackson was aware of. Here's another stat. Hugh Jackson, Baker Mayfield under Hugh Jackson, eight touchdowns, six interceptions in six games. In three games without him, he has nine touchdowns, one interception. Freddie Kitchens.

And Hugh Jackson is supposed to be an offensive guru. Is he? Yes. Is he supposed to be an offensive guru? Yeah, that's the funniest part, because he's a defensive guy on the Bengals. Yeah, he was brought into the left. Well, that makes sense, because he's so shitty at offense.

The whole thing is hilarious. That he knows how to make defenses look really, really good. And I'm going to disagree. I don't think that the story coming out of it was Baker snubbing him. I think the main story, the main visual coming out of the Bengals-Browns game, was the defensive back on the Browns handing Hugh Jackson the intercepted ball

on the sidelines. And Hugh just holding it and being proud for a second. And be like, oh, shit, I'm not supposed to hand this and throw it away. And the Browns getting that graphic. I always talk about that graphic. It is the greatest. It is the sweetest graphic in all sports.

If your team's not good, and I've dealt with this many years, if your team's not good in the NFL, you just want late November, early December for them to throw up that graphic. And in that column on the right, in the hunt. If you can be in that column, in the hunt, you feel like all the time you put into your team is worth something, and the Cleveland Browns

are officially in the hunt. They won't make it. It's going to be really, really hard, but they are actually in the hunt in late November. If we can get Hugh Jackson to get hired by a few more teams that the Browns still have to play, then I think that they are definitely in the hunt. But unless that happens, yeah, I don't think so.

So other games we've got to talk about, we have to talk about Ben Roethlisberger with an all-time Ben Roethlisberger performance. The Steelers are hot. They obviously struggled with the Jaguars last week, but they are playing good football, and they have been for a while. They go into Denver.

Denver's probably hotter, and Ben had a full-on Ben experience. Was very good through the ball 56 times, through for like 400 yards, was actually very good. Had an absolutely bonehead play at the end to ruin the game. And then he throws in the random, I'm running to the locker room and my hurt. Everyone freak out.

No, actually, I just had to take a shit. Yeah, kind of problematic to allow Ben to just go into the bathroom whenever he wants, willy-nilly like that. But it was great. It was the Jopah moment where he sprinted in to kick shit. Yeah, he's flushed. He's washed.

Well, I think if you clock his time that he's spent in the bathroom, I think it's more probable he was taking a shit, or he was not taking a shit, but he was taking a piss. And Ben doesn't seem like a guy who wipes, so. Well, no, he definitely doesn't wipe, in which case, like out there. You're wearing yellow pants.

Just be one of the guys in pictures. I always would imagine that Ben Rottlesberger would be a piss yourself kind of guy. Like that actually shattered all my illusions of Ben as a leader. Your childhood's a lie. Yeah, I was like, Ben, this is the worst thing that you've ever done.

You're using a toilet, Ben, what do you mean? If Ben has to piss, he probably just tells a strainer that his dick's injured. Yes. I don't know, it hurts. He grabs it like a two-year-old. I gotta go potty. So we had that game.

We have the Seahawks being all the way back and the Panthers maybe possibly being dead. Like I said, we're gonna get to the Dunn chain. But the Seahawks are playing great football in a year where they're supposed to be rebuilding. Russell Wilson, and we talked about this with Sean Salisbury, Russell Wilson now, to me, is the number one guy in the NFL.

And this isn't who's the best quarterback, who's the goat, all that shit. I'm talking about right now, week 12. If you were down in the fourth quarter and you had to hand the ball to one quarterback, I'd hand it to Russell Wilson. Yeah, he's playing really, really well. I mean, he's just like,

throwing a 40-yard touchdown on fourth and three. Yeah, who does that? He's in the zone during the fourth quarter. I don't know what it is about him, but Seattle's definitely turned it around. And they have a running game too. Chris Carson, he did that flip today. That was probably the coolest play of the day.

Either that or Nijoku getting carried into the end zone. That was awesome. Really crowd-surfed in. Can I say that Scott Hansen is a little off his game? Well, so I noticed he did not start by saying seven hours of commercial-free football. He didn't do that. Missed the Chris Carson thing for about an hour

and then was like, oh, this happened. And after Twitter had already taken it in, been like, oh, well, his knee was down, all that bullshit. The will actually ruined the whole highlight, whatever. So he was late on that. And he also did a few times where he would cut to a play and be like, oh, yeah, this was overturned.

Like, oh, this is a huge play, but he knows there's gonna be a flag. And he's like, but then there was a flag. Yeah, but in his defense, didn't we tell everybody that they could just take it off until March? Yeah, we said, your year is basically gone. There was a moment this weekend. It was actually during the LSU Texas A&M Seven Overtime Game

where I thought I had just reached Nirvana and I was like, they'll just be football on forever. Yeah, I thought the game was gonna keep lasting. Yeah, like I've watched football for like, my eyes are bleeding from how much football I've watched. And this game will just last until the NFL game comes and then there'll be another game that will last until the next one.

And we will never, ever live life without football again. I thought I had reached that point. Yeah, but you know, we're getting close to the time of year where we have Saturday NFL football, though. And so that's always a nice treat on a weekend where it's like in between, wait, is it next weekend we've got the Army-Navy game? Yeah, two weeks.

Two weeks, okay. Next weekend's championship weekend. That's right, championship weekend. This weekend's championship weekend. There are actually some really good games coming up in championship weekend. Yes, we gotta talk about college football. All right, so let's wrap up the NFL talk.

We have to do two more things. One is, do you wanna say anything about Chase Daniel? I wanna say, yes, I do. Chase Daniel is not good. No, he's really not good. But here's the thing, and this is exactly why Chase Daniel has been in the league for 20 years. He always looks like he knows exactly what he's doing.

Like he's barking, he's grabbing dudes by the face mask and telling them to get in the wrong formation. He's communicating very assertively towards his coaches. And he's probably just saying the dumbest shit possible. But he looks like, and listen, if you're in corporate America, that's 90% of your job. Just to look like you have an understanding of what you're supposed to be doing, what's going on.

You don't actually have to execute. And everyone likes him. He's the guy who remembers your birthday. He remembers your kid's birthdays. Chase Daniel, everyone likes Chase Daniel. And I know, there's always a, why doesn't this guy have a job? Why doesn't this guy have a job?

Listen, part of being a backup quarterback is being a guy who everyone likes. Because let's be totally honest, when an NFL team has a backup quarterback, if your starter gets injured, your season's fucked. Yes. Like for 99% of the teams, that's the case. So essentially they just want a guy who's like,

yeah, that guy just, you know, he brings, his wife brings in some cookies every now and then. He remembers our birthday. He'll give me a ride home if my car breaks down. Like he's just a nice dude. He's a fun guy. He knows all the cool games. He's not good.

He knows all the cool games. We're not talking about good. Like on a Friday walkthrough, he sets up the traffic, or the garbage cans, and you play a fun game where you throw the ball into it. Like you keep it loose around the locker room. And if you close your eyes and you just describe what a backup quarterback looked like,

a police artist, a rendering of a backup quarterback that I would give you right now would be an exact picture of Chase Daniel. And the other thing about him is, and this makes him a perfect backup quarterback. I don't really know that I would recognize Chase Daniel if he walked into the room right now. That's how like nondescript he is,

which makes him the perfect guy that you want behind your alpha. Yeah. And he got, he probably made himself some money. And like there's, I mean, temperament matters. So, and there's a reason why Jeff George didn't get, you know, I remember when Jeff George retired, and I was like, Jeff George out there. He's like, well, he's kind of a dick.

So probably not going to put him in a locker room. But so Chase Daniel, I hope he doesn't start more games, but good job. And the Bears defense is unbelievable. It makes me like horny. I got an unsolicited, this is, this is time for DM tips with DFT. I got an unsolicited DM tip on Friday.

Okay. You ready for this? Yeah. Travis, he's going to be out another week. Yeah, no. Maybe two. She has to report that. Maybe two. Well, I had on Friday.

Oh, okay. Shout out Rick Riley. Say it, I had it first on Twitter. Yeah. For doing unsolicited tips, I got one a minute ago that says, sources are saying your boy Gettelman instructed Schirmer not to target Saquon and OBJ in the second half.

Whoa. So Saquon had like a hundred yards in the first half, or whatever it may be. And he had five, five touches in the second half. Something ridiculous. Interesting. Very interesting. So good segue, Hank.

I wanted the last thing before we get to the Dunchain, the NFC East. Let's talk about the NFC East. So the Cowboys are now at the top, the Cat Tide, Colt McCoy. That's why he's a backup. Like we, Colt McCoy, the Colt McCoy experience on Thanksgiving is exactly what a backup,

it's like a backup whose defense can't prop him up like Chase Daniel had the benefit of. He has a couple of plays and you're like, are we gonna do this? And then you're like, oh shit. It's cool. Yeah, it's Colt McCoy. That's why, that is exactly why he's a backup.

Listen, Colt McCoy can win you a game as long as you keep your opponent under 20 points. Yeah. And he can do that. And he's done that before. You just have to have a really good performance from the defense. I have to put my hand up and plead ignorance.

If we're gonna be, listen, I'm not gonna lie to the listeners. If we're gonna talk about the Our Words Cowboys game, I didn't watch it on Thanksgiving. I went to a house on Thanksgiving that didn't have TVs. And I wasn't told ahead of time. So I can't speak honestly on the subject but what I do know is that the refs absolutely sold for them.

Yeah. No, there was a ref. Not at all. I still don't, I mean, I would've canceled Thanksgiving but so you're a stronger man than me. Thank you. Like everyone in my life, I've just been like, listen, I gotta always be by a TV otherwise.

I'm like a five year old. Like if I don't have my video games. You're a diabetic. Yeah, like if I don't have my video games, I'm gonna just lay on the ground and cry and wail. If you don't, if there's football or any sport on and I'm not near a TV, you're just gonna have a terrible time. So just put the TV in front of me,

let me suck my thumb and I'll be happy. Listen, I got drunk enough to the point where I was, I was basically hallucinating the game anyways in front of my own eyes. You didn't, I mean, you didn't miss much after, the Cowboys kind of had the control. The refs took it though. I know that.

All right, and then the last thing, oh, the Eagles are not done. So let's talk about the Dungeon. We need to clean up our Dungeon because we've Dungeoned many teams and we don't even know who we've Dungeoned. So we're gonna do that, not right now, but we're going to at some point clean up our Dungeon.

That's a promise. You don't wanna do it now? Well, I don't know who the fuck we've Dungeoned. The Coltsley, have we Dungeoned the Coltsley? Let's talk about it, let's talk it out. I'm sure we Dungeoned the Coltsley, they're not done. Are we Dungeoned the Seahawks? They're not done.

The Broncos, I don't think they're done. Well, I think the Broncos will be done. I would keep it on the Broncos. You keep saying that they're hot and that they're spicy, that they're frisky, which is the kind of bar. Can I ask you a question, PFT? But I don't see it.

Can I ask you a question, PFT? Have you looked at the Broncos schedule for the rest of season? I have not looked at the Broncos schedule. Well, let me tell you, my friend, they're Bengals, 49ers, Browns at home, Raiders, Chargers at home. And what's the record? Chargers might not be playing for anything.

They're five and six. They could absolutely win everything. They're going to go nine and seven. I think they could go 10 and seven. They're going to go nine and seven. So I'm going to keep it on there. I'm going to keep it on there. The Cardinals have been done.

Shane, that stays. I think we're confident in saying that. You're not saying that. I say so. And listen, will we Dungeon the Bills? Josh Rosen is the king. No, we're not judging Josh Rosen. No, we're not judging him,

but he is the king of weird ass stat lines. He, I care, what was his? He had like 120 yards on like 30 passes. No, he didn't even have 120 yards, I don't think. He, every single, if you want to get a giggle, just look, he was 12 for 19 for 105 yards. I mean, if the NFL is like exploding offensively, he completed 12 passes for 105 yards.

He had a good first quarter though. I don't even know how that's possible. He does that every week. It's like every single week, it's he'll throw 10 for 17 for 120 yards. Okay, so we've got the Bills, the Dunchains stays on them. Yeah.

Put them on the Raiders. Put them on the Raiders. Put them on the Raiders. That stays. The Eagles. No. I think it stays. I wouldn't Dunchain the Eagles.

I think it stays. The only reason they won this week was because a Gettleman told Pat Shermer to stop giving the ball to Odell and say, Quine, everybody knows that. All right, so really we need to clean it up. This is going to become like we're actually, we're becoming the parody of what we've done right now.

Going through, we're Mike Francis in this segment. Let me just throw out a Dunchain that we can put out there, a new Dunchain. And it hurts me to say it, Jaguars. Jaguars. Jaguars are a mess. They're fighting the Bills. Jaylen Ramsey.

You talked a lot of shit about Josh Allen and then he did pretty damn good. So shout out Josh Allen. And you knew that he like, everyone said in the Bills locker room, it meant more to him because Jaylen Ramsey called him trash. Now I'm not going to talk about the offensive side

of the Jaguars because I'm just not, I'm just not. Well, that's, they have a lot of problems. This is a team that you can't put it on one person. If you point to one thing, Yeah. You're, you're just, you don't watch football. Hey, you don't understand the intricacy of every single offensive play.

And how everything. The play calling, the skating. Also complimentary football. Yeah. The defense and the offense have to play together. I would say situational football as well. Like sometimes you don't want to throw the ball deep. And so, you know, you take what the defense gives you.

So some, you don't always have to light up the stat sheet and throw for 400 yards to have a really good day playing quarterback. That's a good point. So I think it, they need to take a look at the whole organization, I think, because they've got a good core there with some of the guys that they've recently

given extensions to in the last couple of years. Some guys that are coming off injuries. Yup. That weren't previously disclosed. So you've got a good core. Just need to tighten up all the components around it. So they're done, they're done chained officially. That's a great start.

Apologies to them. And, but listen, this, we were talking about before the show, the playoff picture is actually super fun this year because usually those like fifth and sixth seed, you're like, that team sucks. They're just going to get in there. Someone needs to get in there. In the AFC, the sixth seed is going to be

a super hot team. And in the NFC, it's going to be like the Vikings, the Panthers or the Seahawks, and they're all going to be hot teams too. Redskins. Or the Redskins or the Eagles, where you've done chained them. But no, it's actually a really,

like going to be a very fun stretch. We haven't had that in a while. The other thing we learned on Thanksgiving, I think the Saints played their off game. They played their bad game and they still beat the shit out of the Falcons. Did you watch it? Yeah.

I watched that. It was a late game. No, they are really. The Falcons are just the most maddening team of all time. I fucking hate the Falcons. I know I've caped for them. I can't stand. They actively, it's like the ground is lava game.

There's a force field around the end zone. And the Calvin Ridley fumble at the goal line. That was like the Falcons were actually just being like, this is actually a long control. And we're just trying to see how much football you guys can watch without a scoring touchdown. I was just, I was surprised that I wasn't surprised when you fumbled the ball on the one there.

Right, you're like, okay, well, it's the Falcons. I expected that to happen when you got hit. It's like, yeah, it's gonna happen. The other thing I took away from it, I don't know how this has escaped me for so long, but Drew Brees in the huddle, the little stance that he gets into in the huddle, he goes, he does like one knee where he leans forward.

Like it looks like a male dog that learned how to pee from watching female dogs. When you kind of like crouched. Yeah, it's like a crouched where he gets his, like crouched real close to the ground, leans forward and then claps. It's so pleasing to watch. It's great.

You like to watch Drew Brees pee? No, I'm just saying, it's a cool position for him to be in. That's what a leader does. That's actually, if your backup quarterback does that, you're like, get the fuck out of here, bro. You're not the starter, right? That's a starter, you earned that. Yes, that's true.

QB one post. All right, we have football guy of the week. Before we do that though, I have to ask a question and we have to touch on this. Is Jim Harbaugh on the hot seat? Yes. Well, yes. Now we are Jim Harbaugh guys.

I was at the game. I have some thoughts on it. You want me to start with my thoughts? Yeah. Okay. I don't think he's on the hot seat, but however, I do think they have like, he has to have a long look in the mirror

and figure out what Jim Harbaugh wants to be. Because watching Michigan play Ohio State, they're playing like 1950s football against, you know, an era where everyone is throwing the ball. Michigan was trying to come back in a game and they were running these play action plays that take forever to develop. And it was like, what are you doing?

What, you can't? Yeah. And this is actually speaking from a guy who watches it with Wisconsin. Like you can't run the ball and do these long play action plays and try to get four yards at a time when you're playing an offense that is just throwing the ball over the yard

and up tempo and all these things. So I feel like no, they don't have, Jim Harbaugh is not on the hot seat because I don't think Michigan can do better. That's the, that's the key part. It's like, if you're a Michigan fan, you're like, we want to fire Jim Harbaugh. Who the fuck are you getting?

No one. I agree with that. Tom Brady. I agree with that. I think- Shout out Rico Bosco. I think that he's as good as you can hope for a head coach.

Yes. The issue is, you're right, the offensive play calling, but if you want him to like delegate that, think of the type of personality that he would have to bring in to be like an exotic, like Cliff Kingsbury. Right. Do you really think that Jim Harbaugh could coexist with Cliff Kingsbury?

I don't know what it is. I don't think that he'd be like, you use a comb? I also think, I also, I don't really understand it, but you know, this is going to get into analytics, but watching Michigan play Ohio State, Ohio State had so much more anger. Like Urban gets- It's a guarantee.

They get, Urban gets the anger out of his guys and sometimes it's probably bad because he's whatever. Yeah. Or Urban, but Urban gets his guys to an emotional level, like for big games. He's a big game coach. Urban will lose against Purdue or Iowa in the middle of fucking October.

Jim Harbaugh- Because he's like, if you don't win, you'll kill me. Right. I'm going to die. I will die if you don't win this game. I'm going to die if you fail. Jim Harbaugh somehow doesn't get his team to that level. And I don't know what it is.

And it was very sad to watch because I loved Jim Harbaugh when he did the press conference afterwards and the reporter, whoever that reporter is, you're a real jerk. I'm going to say it right now, you're a real jerk. Did you see the question? He said, Jim, you're a historian of this game. Did you know that Ohio State scored the most points

in the history of this rivalry today? And he just like, deadpan, just said, I believe I did. Yes. That was his answer. It was like, why did you do that to Jim Harbaugh? That's so, so mean. So mean. I saw somebody suggest that they do a wife swap

with the two Harbaugh's and that John goes to Michigan, Jim goes to Baltimore. That's the other thing with Michigan. Like Michigan fans, if you get a little too antsy here, Jim Harbaugh would get hired in two seconds in the NFL. It's not a situation where it's not Brady Hoke or Rich Rod. It's like Jim Harbaugh is wanted everywhere. Yes, he is.

I actually think that John Harbaugh would be a pretty good college coach. I think he is like Jim Harbaugh with a little bit more offensive imagination. Maybe not quite the motivator. Maybe not quite like the driving guy. Who's clearly upset that he has to play Lamar Jackson over Joe Flacco.

And also the guy that he complains when the Patriots run like offenses that he didn't know was legal. They're Harbaugh's. I love Harbaugh's. I love Harbaugh's, but they gotta get it. I do too. You gotta figure it out. I think the only choice that you have to make here

if you're Michigan is like, you gotta give him head coach for life. Just let him get comfortable. Let him get comfortable. Let him get comfortable. And you know what? You're gonna win between seven and 10 games every single year.

Well, and what sucks if you're a Michigan fan is for the most part, like if this were Wisconsin in this situation, I would have been like, well, I'm happy that we lost now instead of on a national stage against Alabama. You know what I mean? You would have gotten our ass kicked. You're almost like you're a fraud team

if you lose like that. It was gonna happen eventually. It just went. For Michigan, it's not wet. Like you have to beat Ohio State. You'd much rather get blown out by Alabama if you still beat Ohio State. Yeah, your other option if you're Michigan,

if you're Jim Harbaugh is that you just, you game plan the entire year like you're playing Ohio State that weekend. And you say, listen, we've got good enough athletes. But then they wouldn't win a game. No, listen, you've got good enough athletes where you can beat like a Minnesota. If you, even if you don't game plan for them specifically

because your guys are that much better, ideally. And then you just hope that you can run that table. It's hard to beat Minnesota. Yeah, no, it's not. It's actually, most teams do it pretty easily. And then you are ultimately prepared when you get to Ohio State. That's the other option that you could.

But yeah, it is, it's a stand on his record right now and it sucks because we like the Harboss. Yeah, we like the Harboss. Okay, well, let's do our who's back of the week and then we'll do football guys on the other side of Sean Salisbury with segments. So Hank, you want to start with our who's back? Sure, my who's back of the week is the Lion King.

Yep. This trailer came out on Thanksgiving. So everyone saw it. Everyone freaked out about it, got really excited. It's going to be a live action remake of the Lion King. So they're actually going to kill the animals? It appears that way. It's going to be brutal.

And everyone was freaking out like it's the greatest thing ever even though as Lights Camer Barstil pointed out in a tweet, it was the trailer was literally just a the same exact shot for shot trailer as the original one. Yeah. Well, I mean, and it was money. It was awesome.

Did you watch it? Yeah. I mean, it got me so excited. But I just don't, I like fundamentally don't understand like why people are so obsessed with remakes when it's like, it's the same movie. Because Hank, I saw it when I was young when the world was new and wonderful to me

and I was very excited about everything. Also, it looks more real now. Yeah. So when I see it now, you don't understand nostalgia, Hank. You're not a 90s kid like me. Correct. Yeah, you wouldn't know about that.

But when you see something that you saw when you were 10 years old for the first time, it gets you, it puts you back as a 10 year old. It's also, I like seeing things, I like seeing movies where I know the ending. So I won't be surprised. Like I know the ending. Well, don't say it.

Okay, but I know the ending. I do know the ending to this. Do you know the ending, Hank? Oh, oh, that maybe that's why. Yeah. You're afraid that all the lions are gonna die. Yeah. Yeah, here's the ending.

Global warming kills all of them. And then Midwestern dentist comes in and shoots Simba in the head. Yep. Let's just say when the stampede thing happens, get your, get your tissues out. All right. Fucked up.

Have you never seen the real lion game? No, I have. Are they gonna do the same? I just thought I'm proud of it, not to brag. Name three of your favorite players. Timon, Pumba. Yeah, yeah. The girl lion.

The girl lion. Nala, her name's Nala. Scar. Yep, you like Scar. You like Scar. Yeah. Okay, who doesn't like a villain? Okay.

And my other who's back is Jimmy Butler. Hit another game winner from the same exact spot. Yes, he did. So it turns out maybe that experiment is gonna turn out good for this. No, it'll still probably fail because I don't think any of them will get along. But.

They're getting rid of Markel Fultz. They're getting rid of Markel Fultz. Which what? By the way. He wants out. Yeah, yeah. It's a fresh start. Can I, the Sixers have done,

as someone who's been through a similar situation, the Sixers have done a hell of a PR job to make it look like it's all Markel Fultz's fault. With his like shot coach and all that. Yeah, like Derrick Rose deserved a lot of blame when he went through all this shit and like he had the wrong, you know, Reggie Rose was telling him, don't go on and all that stuff.

But also there was an element of like, why would you trust the Bulls doctors? Cause they kind of suck. Like I would, Markel Fultz has probably been kind of fucked with by the Sixers as well, even on Bulls side. And listen, I love Philadelphia, but there is something about the city of Philadelphia that if you just take somebody from the Pacific Northwest

and toss him into Philly for the first time when they're 19 years old, they're gonna be like, what the fuck is this place? It's not a normal place. Like you need to get, it's like slowly inoculated against Philadelphia when you're young, go there, experience it for like a couple of days just to understand what kind of weird place it is.

And then you'll be comfortable going back. But if you just toss him in the deep end, it's, to his credit, it's a tough place. But Jimmy's gonna work in the fact that he is their fourth quarter guy. Like he, that problem is solved now because Philly did not have, I mean, I never, you agree with me Hank, like Joe Embiid in the fourth quarter.

He can't even keep his breath half the time. He just can't shoot. Like he just fall over himself. He's a great player. But if you want a guy who's like, I trust that guy in the fourth quarter, it's Jimmy Butler. So where could he possibly be going? Like how is anybody gonna give up anything of value for him?

I don't know, I have no idea. Wode said he might not be worth a first rounder. Oh yeah. You think? Damn. Well, he was a number one draft pick. So you would think not. Yeah, you would think the other way.

But I also have functional eyes and have watched him play for the last year and a half. I mean, you'd think someone would be like the 26th pick here. Take him. I'll take him. If Phil Jackson was back in the league, I would trust him with Phil Jackson. I'd get him into that Zen Buddhist stuff, get him meditating.

That's crazy. Give him some ayahuasca. I feel bad. PFT, who you got? Is that it, Hank? You're done? Yes. Okay, Hank's done.

Everyone, Hank's done. My first who's back in the week is putting red bows on cars. So. December to remember. Well, not yet. It's still November. No, not November to remember. And yeah, apparently this is something

that car companies think people do is put red bows on cars and then give them as presents. They do. They do. Yeah, it happens all the time. How do they get the snow to look so perfectly in those commercials?

It's not snow. Yeah, it's fake. What do you mean? It's CGI. What are you guys talking about? CGI snow. It's urine snow. Are you saying it's not snow?

Just like the mountains. No, it's CGI snow. So they just make it. It's real snow though. No, they make it. No, that's not CGI snow. What if they, do you think they take like a- They've been doing those cars forever.

It's snow. It looks like snow, it's snow. That's why they come out later and later every year because they have to wait for the first big snowfall to film it. Yeah, you're right. That's a good point. You know what I want to do?

I want to rent a car and put a big red bow on it and give it to somebody and then call them two days later and be like, oh yeah, by the way, you've got to take that car back. Yeah, that would be good. That would be good. Here's an idea. And it might have been done, but I don't know.

I'm going to say it has not been done, but it should be done. They should do a December to remember Lexus commercial, then it turns into a porn. Because it's always attractive people. And it's like, hey, honey, I got you this sweet SUV with a big bow on it. And she's like, oh, you want a bow?

And then they bow. I got a bow. They just fuck. That's OK. I mean, you take the bow off and it turns out the car was just naked chick. Well, I mean, you think like every single time you watch one of those commercials, you're like, oh,

that's an awesome life. I wish I had that life. Like, oh, that's an attractive woman. That's an attractive man. They live in a big house. They get fucking Lexuses. Who gives a Lexus for a fucking Christmas present? I want to see him fuck.

A sexist. Yeah. A sexist, big member to remember event. I don't care how they put it together. Just someone do that for me. I'd appreciate it. Make big cat a porn. There's not enough porn out there, you guys.

Preferably don't ruin it. Like, maybe no tattoos on either side. OK. And also, it was not to be picky. You know, it would kind of like if they just like took off their nice like Eddie Bauer sweatshirt or sweater and like just fucking dragon tattoos all over. I agree.

They don't ruin it. No nipple rings. Yeah, not this. Keep it clean for me. Have the guy be a little bit chubby with like maybe a smaller dick than mine so I can feel good about myself. OK, we've discussed this. You got it.

My other who's back of the week is soccer hooligans. So Boca Rivera. That's a big match up between Boca Juniors and River. OK. River something in Argentina. That's what Rivera means. Rivera, yeah, I forget what it is. But it's Boca Rivera.

The Boca Juniors? Is that like the, yeah. OK, yeah, keep going, sorry. Yeah, it's like the team of Mbappes. They're all 18. Yeah, there is a team that's like named the little boys. There's something like that. Boca Juniors is actually a little mouth.

OK. If you want to do the exact translation of it. So that's the big rivalry in Argentina. And soccer hooligans threw it all off because a bunch of, I believe, Rivera fans threw rocks and shit at the Boca bus. Oh, no. And pulled a Conor McGregor on it.

Shattered windows, threw pepper spray at it. Teary-ass they sent a couple guys to the hospital. So they had to delay the entire game. So it's like if they had delayed the Michigan-Ohio state game would be like the equivalent of it. Would never happen. Would never. They would never do that.

Never. But a riot. Yeah, there would be an absolute riot. So I'm just glad to see soccer hooligans back on the map. Yeah. Oh, by the way, shout out. Like I said, we went to the Ohio State Michigan game. Shout out to the stoolie that sat in front of Tommy

Smokes and I. He was standing. We were in the flight way up in the nosebleeds. Everyone was sitting down. The guy was standing in front of us the entire time. So I did a down in front, you know, one of those. And he turned around. He's like, oh, big cat, what's up? I was like, what's up, man?

You think you could sit? He's like, oh, no, I'm not sitting. And he just stood the entire fucking game. He was the only guy in that section that was standing. The only person in the entire section directly in front of us. Something tells me he was starting a lot of OHIO. Oh, boy.

Oh, yeah. Well, big cat, that sounds like a you problem. Yeah, I guess so. It really sucked. The only way is to stand up yourself. You know, they serve beer at the stadium now. That's pretty cool. Like college stadiums are now doing that.

I like that. Finally, finally getting into the future. All right, my who's back. I got two. First one, Coach Dicka is back. Beat another heart attack. 2-0 against Heart Attacks, Hank. What's your record against Heart Attacks?

I mean, that's pretty damn good. So he had a heart attack. He's OK. I think he was golfing. And he's going to be back on the golf. I think he got a pacemaker. I just, listen, in 1988, I think, when he came back from Heart Attack 11 days after,

like this guy, you can't keep him down. He's Iron Mike for a reason. Come on. Do you think Iron Mike's going to change any of his habits? No. I don't think so either. I think he's trying to go for the all-time record. Yes.

He's trying to go 3-0. If they opened up his heart, it would just be sausage links and pork chops. Just a football. Yeah. A football with pork and salad. I'm fine. I don't want it any other way.

And then my other who's back is college fan bases irrationally debating their resumes online. So this is the two-week stretch where you can just, if you say anything about anyone ever, it's like the Michael Scott, don't say, don't do anything ever to anyone. Like, if you ever say anything online about college football on Twitter in these next two weeks,

you're going to find yourself in a resume argument. I found myself in one the other day. Was it a blind resume? I was going two avers, Kyler Murray. I've also seen, I've also gotten into a little Oklahoma, Ohio State dust-ups. So I'm going to say it right now. Don't come at me.

I'm staying firm. If Georgia beats Alabama, it's going to be Georgia, Bama, Clemson, Notre Dame, whatever order. Yeah. And if Alabama beats Georgia, it's going to be Oklahoma if they win. If they lose, obviously, Ohio State. Oklahoma will go in over Ohio State.

Interesting. So here it is. So here's the thing. I think that Ohio State's a better team than Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma would beat the shit out of Ohio State. But you forgot about the resume. No, I'm speaking on the resume. If you let me speak on the resume, I'll talk on it.

Wait, would you say Ohio State's a better team than Oklahoma would beat Ohio State? Ohio State is a better team than Oklahoma. I agree with what you're saying. Listen to me. Ohio State is a better football team than Oklahoma. But Oklahoma would beat Ohio State head to head. I agree with that.

That's how fucked up football has made my head. But it's true. It is true. Ohio State actually plays defense. Oklahoma doesn't. But if Oklahoma played Ohio State, Oklahoma would absolutely shred them apart because Ohio State's one biggest weakness is the big place.

Yep. Ohio State was the all men out last year. Yep. They went through a tomb two years in a row. I think they might. I think they might, too. Especially because you have, Hank, you forgot, Oklahoma, if they beat Texas in the Big 12 championship

game, their loss to Texas basically doesn't count anymore. And if Ohio State gets in, the people in the room that are making these decisions, there's a part of them that remembers how this college football season got started. Oh, yeah. And they're thinking about all the shit that Ohio State would be bringing along with it.

Plus, you might kill Urban Meyer on national television if he loses. So there's a whole history there that is in the back of their head. And they're like, who would we rather have representing college football? Would we rather have Kyler Murray? And he's awesome in Lincoln Rally.

He's young and cool. And none of his assistants have gotten in trouble. Yeah. I'll throw something out there. I actually think Urban Meyer doesn't want to go to the college football playoff. Because if you remember, Nick Saban basically forced him to have a heart attack.

That's true. He made Tim Tebow cry. Like he made God cry. Nick Saban made God cry and gave Urban Meyer a heart attack. That's true. There's no way he wants to do that again. That's very. Also, when Urban Meyer is at his best

is when he's pissed off at being wronged for something. Yeah. So there's a part of him that really wants to not make it so he can lash out at the media and at the committee and be like, we got robbed again. Yeah. That's like his super bowl is complaining. Like Urban Meyer's redemption tour.

Yeah. No, listen. He wants some football games, dude. No, big cat. He's battled back through adversity of almost losing to Maryland and then. And getting to keep his job where anyone else would have been fired in America.

Suspension. Yeah. Listen, the adversity that man has overcome this year is an inspiration to all other shitheads in America. All right. Dwayne Hassen's good. So Ohio State fans, don't get upset when you hear this segment. You're like, oh, you hate us?

No, I actually think you're good. He is very good. And they were really fun to watch when Urban wasn't coaching the team, too. Say something nice about Ohio State. Yeah. Also. They kicked the shit out of Oregon State.

I am getting back on my take from earlier that I think that Clemson could beat Alabama. Yeah. I really think that. I think Dabo, did you see him chew out his defensive tackle? He let his defensive tackle rush for a touchdown with his other defensive tackle as a full back. And then the guy did the Heisman pose.

And then Dabo basically grabbed him by the face mask. It was like, you embarrass me on national television after the guy scored his touchdown. It can happen. Dabo is as close to Nick Saban as this next generation of coaches is going to get. Yes. If you want another take that you want to throw out there,

I don't know, based on this last weekend's stats, but Kyler Murray for Heisman. And then everyone says, but you didn't play fourth quarters. And you say, well, if you take away Kyler Murray's fourth quarters, he still has better numbers than Tua. Boom. It's nice. But he, hey.

Kyler Murray's unbelievable. I bet you haven't heard this one. But he gets to play, gets a big 12 defense. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, I mean, Alabama played fucking rice two weeks ago or Citadel. OK.

Either way, what we just did in the last five minutes will get us the most interaction on Twitter. The most people, college football fans, they are so angry all the time. And I respect the hell out of them. They live and breathe and die with their fan bases. And I had a guy slide in my DMs the other day. I was like, why are you always so mean to Oklahoma?

I was like, what? I don't think I'm mean to Oklahoma. I don't think so. We just say, OK, cool. If you say one thing, positive, negative, anything about any team ever back to the Michael Scott thing, it will be like World War III on your timeline. So the other thing that I'm keeping my eye on,

we got pretty upset because in the course of 13 months, Louisville got rid of Rick Petino and Bobby Petrino, taking them from the horniest school to the least horny school in America. They have an opportunity to hire Cliff Kingsbury and make Louisville horny again. That needs to be the landing spot. Jeff Brom has done just enough statements,

being like, I want to be a Purdue for me to say, yeah, OK, you're going to be Louisville's head coach in like a month. It's the classic college coach. If a college coach does a press conference, it says, I want to be here, we get it, dude. When he says it, for some reason, I believe it, though. Yeah, right.

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Sports Talk, 790 in Houston. You can, that's from three to six. That's the drive time show at the 790 in Houston on the Amdahl or the I Heart Radio app. And then my podcast is Seanunfiltered. And you can get that on the I Heart Radio app or at sports790.com. And then just talking football around the country

and getting to come on with you guys. Man, I appreciate you having me. Okay, so Houston, let's start there. I wasn't gonna start there, but we probably should do this. Houston Texans, I don't know if you're familiar, but I have said that I would cut off the tip of my pinky if the Texans won the Super Bowl around week five.

Tell us the mood in Houston and also just like the realistic chance that the Houston Texans could actually make a run to the Super Bowl this year. Well, your pinky is Ronnie Lott. He's not gonna have the Ronnie Lott treatment. You know, cut it off just to keep playing. You're safe, I think. But here's what, I don't think it's gonna happen.

I don't think they're ready yet. But guys, when you look around the league at the best teams, they all have a couple of things in common, but one thing now in this day and age in particular. If I went said Chief Patrick Mahomes, you saw Rivers what he did today, what he did today and has had a great season. Wilson, Brady, Breeze, all these,

I mean, when Rodgers, if they're winning, the way Trebisky's playing, he was my Jared Goff guy before the season started this year. And I think that, I mean, he's not gonna put up the same numbers, but he's proven that he belongs. So all of them have the one thing in common. You've got a guy that every game you go into

and Watson's one of them, you got chance to win. They haven't had that around here. I mean, they're winning ugly. But when you line up, go to the stadium, it's not like they're playing with me, where you go in and hope to win. They're line up knowing that with that dude and the way their defense is playing,

two things that matter in January and December. Anyway, they got that guy in Watson, who's a full grown ass man now. He's got a little bit of hero syndrome in him where he wants to make every friggin' play and doesn't know, you know, we see luck and luck's another one. Look where he's playing.

He doesn't know at times when to just take the sack or throw it away, but he's so spectacular. He thinks he can make every play. So they're gonna play, they're gonna get a home game unless luck chases them down, which looked like he may. They can't dick around. I mean, they've got to play great in December, but their schedule is pretty easy.

But I don't think they're super bowl ready because I just don't think they're explosive enough on offense and I don't play calling wise. They know how to put their foot on your throat. But they're good enough to be in every game. That's the problem. They get to a point and they always keep you close. They do, they keep the team close, so they stay close.

But they got Watson guys at some point in time. He's an MVP guy in the league. And if they keep getting players, they've got some pieces, but the puzzle's not there yet. Your finger's safe that you're out there. I don't like that. I think that they're, I wish you had gone the other way with that,

but you brought up something interesting. It's something that we've all noticed about the Texans. They do win ugly. They're not blowing teams out. What's the difference? What is the play calling? Where does the change need to be made in order to get that offense to the point where it's,

you know, it's like the Rams or it's like the Chiefs to that next level. I think that one is you got to have, you got to have, and when I say that, so don't need to coach them. I've got to, you got to trust that you can let it rip. And we always talk guys, it's not the X's and O's a lot of times.

It matters. You can't have some guy who's afraid of his own shadow calling plays. And we've seen guys around the league that are just afraid. They play not to lose as opposed to playing to win. And I think that's a big problem. So if you've got the X's and O's and the Jimmy's and the Joe's,

you can let it rip, but you don't. And that's, and I don't think the Texans have enough Jimmy's and Joe's outside of an offense just yet. Now they go out and get a guy like Lady on Bell next year. Now they'll be a bitch to deal with them. They already are. They're dangerous cause they're going to have fresh legs come play off time though.

That's the problem. Yeah. And I think obviously Will Fuller being out, obviously that was kind of their, they're over the top guy that changed the offense for him. So I want to switch to something else here. The Baker may feel too Jackson. I don't know if you saw the, obviously the Browns won their first road game in forever.

Hugh Jackson's on the other sideline. And after the game, they had an icy handshake at best. And Baker Mayfield was like, you know what? It was bullshit that he took another job so quickly. I think really he was saying it's bullshit that he went around bashing everyone and saying that it wasn't his fault. You played quarterback at this level,

like if you're in Baker's shoes, do you think he made the right call, not being nice and warm and fuzzy with Hugh Jackson? Yeah, I don't think he doesn't have to be. You don't have to kiss Hugh's ass. Hugh's not paying him. You know, I mean, he coached him. He left, you know, you're, you, you, you,

when you're under, when I'm under your roof, you can tell me what you want. But when I'm old enough to move out or the coach moves out, there's somebody else in here. Now I get to take my, that I got to take my orders from her that I've got to lend credence to. Now, Hugh was there briefly.

You can tell him his post game press conference earlier this week when they asked him also about Hugh and Will, will he have any insight on your play calling? No, no. You could tell Baker doesn't like Hugh Jackson's approach. I don't have one, one, one answer. I don't give a shit if he likes him or not. It's about respect.

See, the only thing that, about his post game today is I don't care if Hugh went, took this job. Truth of the matter is Baker left Texas Tech to go to OU and I'm a die hard, Mayfield fan. I love his swagger. I love his in your face. And plus he's got skills. He's going to be a full grown ass man in this league.

But, you know, that's the way it is guys. And most of the time we wait until somebody's out of building whether it's Hugh or Baker Mayfield to criticize and because they're in house and you're trying to respect and trying to do the right thing in front of teammates and coaches. But the truth of the matter is Hugh did give some eye contrast.

He did it. You know, if I confess it's everybody else's fucking fault, not mine. Right. And while I like Hugh Jackson, the bottom line is I think Baker Mayfield takes more accountability. Yeah. And the second, look what's happened

with Freddie Kitchens is done. Look what happened the second they got him out of the building. They became more free spirited. They're playing looser. I do like Hugh as a person, but I don't have one out of a problem. Not one smidged it. Baker Mayfield didn't kiss Hugh Jackson's ass

because I got news for you. When he was walking out of that building he wasn't kissing any of the players out. No, he wasn't. Baker Mayfield's a more mature guy than Hugh Jackson. That's a fact. Yeah. And I don't have a problem with him taking the Bengals job

because I truly believe that's the only job that Hugh Jackson had offered to him at the time. So like you can't fault him for doing that. But at the same... I don't begrudge anybody for going to get in the job. Now, you know what? He wants to employ. He wants to stay in coaching.

That's his gig. Then what you do to pay him back, you go with his ass and that's what happens. Okay, so here's my problem. I don't begrudge someone going to get another job, but I think if you're gonna go get another job, don't do, if your goal is to stay in football, he did both.

He had his cake in eight of two. He did the car wash. He won his own first take. He did all the interviews. He was doing all the analyst stuff. And then when Marvin Lewis called him up and was like, hey, I'm going to give you a life raft, he took it. It's like, if you're gonna, if you're, if you know,

and I think you probably knew in the back of his mind, he's going to go work for the Bengals. So don't go start bashing everyone and doing the entire like press tour when you're going to stay in football. Because I feel like that's, you know, that's a little counterintuitive. It is.

And it's also, there's also a part of it. It's not, I mean, it's the optics. The optics don't look good. But we know, come on guys, we all know this. And it's like, I couldn't agree with you more. We knew that his best buddy in football was going to bail him out and bring him to Cincinnati. You knew that this is what's his third time around

at Cincinnati. Right. And so you knew that was coming down the pike. But of course he went on that. He went through the car wash and why? Because he wanted to make everybody feel like, oh, couldn't have been useful. Right.

That's, I mean, like I said, that's the way of getting everybody to say, oh man, he deserves better. Well, the truth of the matter is if you don't win, we're in a, there's guys that do win to get their ass fired. Yeah. And then they've become better. Something that guys,

and make you make it good somewhere else. That's fine. I hope he does for his sake. But it's obvious the players play looser, better and more aggressive with him not coaching them. And Baker Mayfield has actually, he's actually inserted himself more into what they're doing. Put the ball in that dude's hands and let it rip.

And he's doing it. It's nice to watch. I love it. Yeah. Baker's awesome. He's played really well the last couple of weeks. So you, I'm trying to keep track of your power rankings here. You say to Sean Watson is a grown ass man, Baker's almost a grown ass man.

Can you rank? No, I think, I think Baker may feel good. A football player, Jesse. I think he's a, he's a, he's a- Wait, what was that? A football player, Jesse, means you're just a, you're just a dude, man. Yeah. I think of, I think-

I like that. Now you want to get to some other quarterbacks that they play like me. I can get on them on the lower part of our rankings, but think about real quick guys, think about our lower half of the, think about our young quarterbacks. But then you can insert Donald in there eventually.

I guess we could call Joe Goff and Carson Wentz, Prescott. Think how depth our young court Mahomes. And then we got the 35 and over, the 35 and over crowd. The Breezes, I don't, you can't do what Breeze does, meaning you, meaning most players in shorts and a t-shirt against air. Can't fucking complete 70% of their passes. Again, against air, he's doing it against 11 on 11.

Roth, this burger, Rivers, Brady. I mean, we're pretty good at the starting quarterback position, but it's the best I've seen since 1983 on the youth side. That, the 83, 84, that group in there, the Moreno's. We've got some good young studs, man. And Mayfield and Watson are both, when you go into a game, they both give you a chance. A lot of guys don't.

Okay, so let's talk about like this new emerging crop of quarterbacks. Some of the less proving guys. So I'm not going to include somebody like Jared Goff or even Pat Mahomes, because I think we can all agree that Pat Mahomes is a grown-ass Jesse. So between like, between-

Football player Jesse, there's a football player Jesse. Come on now. That's a bubble grown-ass man. I just want to make sure I'm getting this right. Okay, so if we look at Josh Allen, Sam Donald, Baker, Lamar, and Mitch, where would you rank those guys? Well, I'll start with Travisky.

I think the biggest key for him was, he's now getting reps with a coordinator this year who has a set of balls. And Aquana and Matt Nagy. You know, last year of dialogue, they didn't throw the football. They tried to keep him under wraps as a young guy starting hour.

Let him run. We know his athleticism were so RPO and you bring a college coach in for you to understand that system. And Nagy brings with, and he reached the best football tree we have in the league. Yup. His guys leave him and they leave him better.

And then they go take that to another place. So I'm a Travisky. I like guys that are big and athletic and he seems to be smart. And once they continue to open up and that defense will destroy you, I like them. I think they're gonna win the division.

I think they're the best team in the division. I think offensively, they're getting better and they gave him some weapons. Love him. Donald's got a ways to go. He's on a shitty ass team, but his ability to throw from different arm angles at his feet, he'll be a really good player.

And I think he's got the demeanor because he's kind of a, he's not an arrogant prick. He's confident. And he's got a guy like Josh McCown who's a great pro around him. He's gonna be a really good player. But let's see who to leave off.

We know what Mayfield's bringing to the table. Lamar. Lamar Jackson. My thing with him is he's better under chaos right now because he doesn't quite, he's still learning how to do with the verbiage and play calling and all that. But you put the ball in his hands.

Good things happen, man. They're pretty magical. But he's gonna have, we can't run in 27 times a week in a week out. He'll get killed. He just will. And so you gotta learn to protect that. But he's gonna become a better passer

as long as there's somebody that continues to teach him. But his strength right now is what all young guys do when they don't know what's going on. He is, they just rely on their biggest strength and they run around and make plays. And he is a huge playmaker, but he's got a long way to go in the passing game. But he's really good under chaos.

The key is how good will he be in a clean pocket when he's gotta go through progressions and hang on and hang on and get to his third and fourth guy. But when he does, if he ever gets to that point, which is gonna take a while because some guys are more advanced than others, but this dude's electric athleticism as long as he can protect himself.

But at some point time, they know in Baltimore, 27, 25, 20, you can't rush him that much. And you're gonna have to play with it a little more of the system. But I love his escape ability. And then Allen and Buffalo, well, you saw today, he made some throws he couldn't step into.

He's got great feet. Is his accuracy goes up? I mean, there's something to like about all of them. And there's something to dislike about them and a lot of it's you. And he's playing in a great place because Buffalo will embrace him if they win. And you have to be able to drive the ball like he does.

Accuracy was a problem in college, but that doesn't mean he can't change it with good teaching and realize he doesn't have to throw it a hundred miles an hour every time. I was impressed with his game today, especially coming back from injury. I think we all knew he was a good athlete, but man, his feet are even better than we thought.

So he's gotta be able to use those at times to make plays, which a lot of these guys now, the days are over where you just a big sniff in the pocket. How these big dudes are able to kill you on the edge and create shit that the mirror of mortals couldn't do. I wanna talk. So you're talking about Lamar Jackson. I want you to give me a quick power ranking of teams.

And the AFC playoff picture for that six seed is gonna be fun to watch. Cause there's four teams that all look like they are playoff teams, but obviously only one of them can get there. So power rank for me, the Ravens, the Colts, the Broncos and the Titans, all four of those teams could definitely make the playoffs.

Ravens, Colts, Broncos, Titans, Broncos are, I believe they start to feel it because their defense now looks like they did early in the season when they got gashed by some teams on the ground. Now they're cutting it loose and the quarterback just protect the football. And Lindsay is, how people,

I've always marveled at how guys like that get to a draft about anybody taking productive and powerful. It's just, and then we placed, we labeled the scouts, general managers, experts. No, that's it. When you say you're a fuck up, you can't, you can't go through 32 teams and keep passing, you ground after round after round.

And then he goes here and he's gonna be, he's gonna be on the all rookie team. And he's gonna be the difference if they make the playoffs or not, offensively. So I like them. I still try to gain trust for, if everything's going bad,

can case win you those games. He did it in times in Minnesota, but the personnel was better in Minnesota. You're starting to see them ramp it up. I like the way they're playing. Baltimore, you know, while Lamar gives you the changeup, I think they try to be,

that I think they feel more secure if Joe was out there because of the experience. But the truth is they're starting to get uncomfortable, they're starting to get comfortable being uncomfortable. And about the defense, I love the Bears defense and the NFC, but the Ravens are, their defense can step up huge.

But I think it's good. I think it's good for John Harbaugh, who I think is a great coach, is to get uncomfortable being, I mean, get comfortable being uncomfortable. And they all work like, well, this is what we like to do, because Joe's 180 degrees different

than Lamar is. But then when Joe comes back, now you get the best of both worlds. You can run a couple of packages and Lamar's got great experience now. So he can be an asset to you. That team's dangerous because they're filled with veterans

and they're well-coached. The other two teams, I don't trust Tennessee guys now, because I just don't. And they're great scoring defense. But I don't know what their identity is yet. I think they're gonna be really good. And we use that keyword potential a lot.

And if they started to get productive a month ago, I said, nah, I'm not gonna make it. Then they started to play well. Then Mario got banged up again, the elbow. And then there's something about them. I'm still trying to figure out do they wanna eat him on the edge? Do they wanna throw it from the pocket?

When they're all good, they're dangerous team. But I think they're the third best team in the South. I do. I think both the Texans and the Colts are better than. And then the final team, the Colts. I'm gonna tell you if the Texans blink, luck to go on another five-game run, because for the first time in his career,

he's not getting hit. And we're seeing it. We knew how great he was when he got hit. Now look how great he is when there's mostly a clean pocket and he gets to deliver the ball and they're the E-Brods making every play imaginable. I mean, they've got guys killing it right now. And we know what T.Y. Hilton brings.

And the run threats there. Plus the safest, the best pick in this draft. When I'm talking to you guys, and we're talking a decade from now, Quinn Nelson will have been in like nine pro bowls and all pro like eight times. Safe to stick in this draft. You might as well put a damn muster color jacket

on his ass right now, because he mauls you, lets you know about it, picks you up and mauls you again. And if they protect the interior of that pocket, they're dangerous. And I, for me, I'm telling you, I wanna say to them that the Ravens, I think, are gonna make the playoffs.

And then it's gonna come down to the other three. And if the Texans can hold this lead, I don't think we're gonna get two from the AFC South unless luck rolls through five more games and they pull this off. Schedules in the AFC South, they have the advantage with the teams available because the rest of the team's schedules are tougher.

And it's funny you mentioned Quinn Nelson because I'm, you know, I watched the all 22 on film, I'm a film guy, but I usually just take what Twitter tells me and I run with that. And early this season, there were a couple of gifts of him just getting run over, just getting like road graded into the ground.

And then there was that one gift where he screamed at a guy, which turned out to be fake and ran him over. So like for me, That was fake. Yeah, the scream part was fake. They added that in. Yeah.

And then he got, he got fined. I'm just going to watch him every week. Bro, it's Sunday night. He's about, yeah. Well, how could you do that? He's about as good a guard as we have. Yeah, it was fake. The scream thing is you should have rattled me.

Yeah, you should do, you should have followed up on that. All right, all right, all right. It was fake news. So my take is that Mike McGlinchey is actually the better offensive lineman from Notre Dame this year. Well, and think about this,

how about both of them on the same line on a regular basis? And both of them play in different positions. Let me put it this way, I can win with both. I just thought I'm a big Nelson's nastiness. He's winning a lot. And I don't go by, you know, the pro football focus grades, I get all that.

I just know when I break the huddle. And I know what you're saying, because they love McGlinchey too. That might have been the steal, getting him late and having that pick because he is a monster. But the Quentin Nelson domination inside for me, and with luck and big quarterbacks

who like to sit in the pocket. And they want to climb the pocket as opposed to like, we get Eli or luck or Brady, they want to climb and escape north and south. They don't want to escape east and west. And with the three interior guys in the middle and allowing you to step up and climb the pocket, keep people away from your leg,

you become a better quarterback. And they're building that thing inside out in Indianapolis where, you know, with McGlinchey outside in where he's at. So I think you got two guys who are going to be in the Pro Bowl, but I thought that Quentin Nelson was the safest pick in this draft. And I'm going to stick with that.

Now that's a good point, because if you look back, you know, Peyton Manning, when he was in Indianapolis, what did he have the entire time? You had Jeff Satter, right? You had that anchor in the middle. And when you had a pocket passer, yeah, I guess I could see why it would be more important to have those center lanes.

Yeah, if you've got a Watson guy, yeah, you've got a Watson guy or a Mayfield guy, guys that can escape east and west, Russell Wilson. You want to make sure, I mean, they're okay with you forcing them that way, because now you're playing to their strength. And you all, you would love to have all five guys who open up, so you don't get it.

And that's what's going on with luck right now. But to me, when you've got a guy who wants to sit in there and deliver the football, those guys don't like people at their legs. And luck is playing with so much confidence, because he doesn't think he's going to get hit in the game. He took a couple of hits today, but his jersey's been pretty clean this year,

and they'll build it from the inside out, which is fun to watch. Right, you mentioned Russell Wilson, and their strategy in Seattle has basically been, okay, we'll get a bag of trash and three dead dogs as our offense alignment, and then we'll just have, we'll use that to make him run out of the pocket, because that's where he's good.

How good is he though, guys, in the end of the game? So good. Every time Seattle's in a game, I'm on one of mine on record this year saying, I thought they were going to be picking in the top 10 picks. I did in the 2019 graph. Defense was starting to fall apart.

You were wondering if Pete was thinking, well, maybe I'll, maybe that's about time for me to move on from this. You know, had the enthusiasm left the building, the offensive line had been horseshit. They hadn't had a running game. And now, and Baldwin's always on the run. Now they're running the football,

more Carson's a monster. They're, even when they don't protect, that guy's become more efficient when he's always been an efficient runner. But he makes so many plays at the end of the game. I honestly think, during the fourth quarter, if he says, no, no problem. I got this and I always believe

he's going to throw his way back into it. The Seahawks, who I would have never imagined were able to overcome this and make playoffs. Don't look now, but I think there's a good chance the win today was huge. I'll bet you they slide in as a wild card, which none of us would have thought that at the beginning. Yeah, I agree.

And I honestly think that Russell Wilson, I had like the revelation watching that fourth quarter. He is now, in my mind, the scariest fourth quarter quarterback. And partly because Rogers had a little bit of a down year, but when he gets the ball at the end of a game, you just know that they're going to always have a chance. I want to switch real quick to college.

What the hell is going on at USC? How are they keeping their coach and have you been contacted at all as like, not even as a coach, coach, you know, like, I love you. I know USC loves to pick old, old quarterbacks and old players, but have you been asked who they should hire if they move on? No, I have not been asked to.

So you get people contact, you know, attention, who are they going to hire? I said, I'm not the eight yet. I have no insight information on that. Other than being a former player who knows, you know, some people that are former head coaches that would like that job. Jeff Fisher, Jack Del Rio.

Jack Del Rio, exactly. Both of them, they should actually co-coach. That would be the greatest coach ever. Both of them on defense and bringing four offensive coordinators. I know what's going on. We're young. We got to recruit a little bit better physicality guys.

You guys, think about all the years that you guys have watched football. When USC's good, they destroy you with the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. And then they mix and then we always are going to have speed and guys from California. It's a recruiting bed there and good players, good quarterbacks, but you start to guys

should be playing in modern day high school. They got guys up front who are getting, who are right now soft as bathroom tissue. And the play calling was stripped from T-Mart. You know, there's just been a whole lot of crap going on. They're a couple of years away from being really good. The rumor is that Glenn Swan's going to keep Clay Helton. He's a good man and a good ex is an old guy.

But I'll tell you, the people he puts around him, we got to get better. We just do because we are not, we'll make a few plays, but we're not good enough to sustain it for a full season physically right now. And when USC's physically getting whipped, we've got zero shot. It'll get done, but I don't think

we're going to have a new head coach. And I think most of us thought we wouldn't be. No, it's not. Yeah. I think they said it. You can't lose to your rival. Yeah. You can't lose.

You cannot lose to either. We lost to a, we got manhandled by UCLA who was a two and eight football team. Yeah. And no disrespect to them, but they shouldn't, they shouldn't beat us. Right. And this year, especially,

and Chip will get that turn around. And that's the scary part. Now Chip's going to turn it around. He's got promise that he is. And then we get our ass kicked like ever. We kept it close. We still lost the Notre Dame. Normally when you win five games and lose to those two teams,

you get fired. Yeah. He's a good man. But we got to fix it. And we got to get more players. We got to get physical. And we've got to recruit full grown monsters at the line of scrimmage so we can,

so we can compete in what has become the Pac-12's been down the last couple of years. It wasn't Donald covered up a lot of warts, man. I'm just telling you. He covered up a lot of shit at SC. And I'm a diehard Trojan, but we got to get better because right now we're no match to the Pac-12.

Not very good. Clay Held is just too nice. That's, he's just too nice. Everyone says he's got the new jet. Like everyone's like, oh yeah, he's a great guy. Great guys don't win football games. Write that down. Right.

He is an all, he listen. The people love him. He cares. He's compassionate. He make the kids love playing for him. Exactly. Good man. That means a problem is.

Yeah. You also, when you come into the building, that freshman or sophomore got to be scared to death when you call him to your office. But he's got a wonderful dam. Am I losing my job? Am I still on scholarship? There's got to be that same respectful fear

we have for our fathers. Dad calls you in his office like all hell no. And they put his arm around you and says, we got to get better son. Get your ass in on time. So that's what I've seen. He's quite a good guy. But we may need a cleanly ass guy.

But right now it looks like it's going to be Clay. And I'll root him on because I care about our program. And I think he's a good man. So out there in the Pac-12, are you as surprised as we are of the job that Herm Edwards did this year? Because we were one of the guys that, like going into the season, we're like, what the hell is Herm doing?

He's like, he's still working part-time on first take while he's coaching the team. Like we had no idea that he was going to be a decent head coach this year. I think we all did. And when I was at my last couple of years at ESPN when Herm got there, and we had known each other through football, but we had sat next to each other.

And he just said, you talk about good men. Good great. If you want somebody to be an example to your kids, Herm Edwards is the guy. But just like you said, that he'd been out of it too long. We see Gruden going through some of that. It was, I mean, you know, Herm loves to coach. He loves to be a difference maker.

And it was different, but what do we say right now? But all these office coordinators guys, they're thinking different. We're not, we're no longer thinking, well, you can't run that college shit in the NFL. What do you talk about? 80% of the plays in the Philadelphia Patriots Super Bowl were spread air raid type of stuff.

So that's why they're spreading it out. So this is us now. So it's the same with Herm. You didn't have to do it the exact same way. Everybody else says, why would you? And I agree with, to me, he has to garner Pac-12 coach of the year. I mean, thoughts, because when he went in there,

we're all thinking, well, he's a figurehead. Is he going to be involved? He's doing it his way, which you know what? Someway that's sometimes that's the right way. I couldn't be happier for the guy. I really couldn't. But I think most of us miss on that when we thought, well, this is about a two year experiment.

And they're going to, they're going to be somebody who's going to mentor to take that job over. But if there's somebody you want to root for in high five over doing a hell of a job, Herm Edwards is one of them. Great man. And obviously the kids there responded to him.

And he's doing it in a different way. Okay. In retrospect, I'm going to officially announce that all the stuff that we said about Herm before the season, we were actually, that was all a joke. We are on team right. We were on Herm from the start. So it was, we're diaries.

So it was. Hey, run with it, man. You guys got pulled, run with it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm buying in. We're going to gaslight the entire audience on that one. So we actually saw you. The last time we saw you was in Baton Rouge

before the Alabama LSU game. We were talking before we got on the air. We all obviously watched the, the A&M LSU overtime fiasco. And you were saying that you hate college football over time. I want to let you cook on that for a minute. Wait.

I hate it. I hate both of the NFL's overtime too. And back to that, about that trip to Baton Rouge. Was that your guys first night? I know you've been with Coach O before. Was that your first night game there? Yes, it was. Well, is there a better atmosphere in football

than that place? No. The crowd got out of it early because we didn't score, meaning LSU. But that's, what a great frigging place, huh? Yep. Unreal, I believe. Unreal.

As far as overtime, guys, and the game we watched last night, we watched, you know, safety and all this, seven over times. I like the excitement. But for college, if we're gonna go with the current college rule in college, move the damn thing back to the 40.

Why would I, you can kneel down three times and be in field goal range. I won't make your ass earn it. Yeah. I do. And then you guys could set your rules. My rules are, number one, I'd like to just do what we always do.

Let's kick off and play another fucking quarter. Let's just play regular offense, defense, special teams. Why do we always have to set a rule to set a rule to meet the change? 25's too close. 25 is too close. Make them earn it first down.

Cause then the strategy comes in. Let's say you're at the 32 and it's fourth and one. Hmm. 42, that's a 49, 50 yarder. Hmm. Or do like go for it and push it closer. Strategy comes in.

It doesn't come in at the 25 yard line unless you're past the third overtime. Let's go. And if you really want to fix it, put it at the 40 and make them go for two the first overtime. Look at this shit going right now. Let's test their boxing out, but move it back.

And in the NFL, I don't like 25, 20, not 20. And you know what? Don't let them pee in your face and tell you it's raining about the safety rules. They're the empty toilet and give one ounce of shit about the safety. And even to the NFL, we have Thursday games all year long.

They don't care about that. They care about how can we get a good game with revenue. People like it, but I just want to move it back. I'm fine if you're going to do it that way. Let's just move it back 15 yards and make them burn a first down. We won't have a 75, 72, whatever type game. Okay.

We won't play basketball on turf indoors. NFL, I still don't understand why we cut it to 10 minutes other than the bullshit about injuries. I don't understand why we can't play, why we ever tie in the NFL. They make enough money to play 22 quarters, if that's the case. And three is, why wouldn't I give offense,

defense and special teams all a chance? Why if you win the coin toss, if you score touchdown, don't not get another shot. It makes absolutely no sense to me. It's not football. If you do it my way, both teams, minimum one possession, and then it's sudden death over time.

And if we get to the sixth quarter, just like the playoffs, you play like the playoffs. We don't get stuck in ties in the NFL. Oh, I love ties. I love ties. I hate them. No, they're weird.

They're fun. They're fun to look at the standings. You can't figure it out. The math of it. Sean, tell you what? You just did your, like classic Sean Salisbury take on a mean big cat are going to give you the John Clayton perspective

and then you can argue with us. Okay. But it's cool, but people like points in college over time. It's like, if you start in scoring position, then you get more points. You said 72 points is not fun. Cause it's like basketball. I actually think that a 72 point game was one

of the most like electric times I've ever had watching TV. Even though, you know, obviously the team I was rooting for that I had an interest in loss. I think people like points. They do love points for fans. Just a fan to watch. Yeah. It's like, it's like the 54-51 Monday night game.

They were shitty football on defense. Shitty, horrible. Well, they're tired. Yeah, but if you're pure fuck those guys, they can't be tired, they're not tired. They're tired. Yeah, they, they're tired. They can backpedal faster and I can run.

So I know they're tired, but 54-51, you can't be tired the middle of the second quarter. Can you? Yeah, but they're the athletes are too good, but 54-51 for fans. And I mean, yeah, it's awesome. The defense, that's not pure as football. If you're saying, Sean, can I give you,

would you rather have 10 of those money night games in the NFL or 10, 17 to 13 field goal games? I've taken the Rams and Chiefs all day, every day till the cows come home. And so are you guys. Yeah. And for, yes, as a fan, they're keeping me up watching seven over times.

Was it awesome? Yeah, and I wanted LSU to win the game. They didn't. I'm just talking about for football players. I mean, you talk about exhausted. Now they, they were exhausted. We had, when they put them on the 25, those guys could defend nobody down the stretch.

They were making every offensive play. Fans do love points. But in truth is LSU, think about this. If you go back to yes, if LSU wins last night, and Ohio State gets beat by Northwestern next week, and, and Oklahoma gets beat by who's, uh, Texas. Do you know who would have been in the final four? UCF.

LSU would. I know, I know. It would have been LSU. Well, maybe Georgia. No, no, LSU, you're right. You're right. Because Georgia, LSU, Georgia. Assuming Alabama beats Georgia and the SEC.

Yeah. Yes. LSU would have been in. So if we had real football, maybe, and a ref may have missed the catch and running. I'm not blaming the refs for the gaming. Should happen to that A&M one and good for them. I just, for me, when it comes to overtime,

I want the best team to win. I don't think put it on the 25 a lot of times. The best team wins. I think you get a little bit lucky. Oh man, we're going to kick the field goal. The other guy may shot, they may kick his field goal, and then you get it moving back to the 40.

That thing would have been over in two quarters. Yeah. In two over times, not seven. You make a fair point. I mean, I just want more football. So whatever they can figure out. I'm not good for that. Yeah.

I would have taken 15 quarters last night over times, but I want the best team to win. Well, my idea has always been that they just take the, like if you go to overtime, I've always thought we need like April football, like the shitty games, just play them in April. So maybe if we just go to overtime, just push all the over times to April.

Yes. And if you don't finish it, it's like that. You know, we're throwing them a white Cali plate seven, eight, and we don't get to nine. It's okay. We'll worry about you guys. You guys aren't as good anyway. We don't want to watch you.

Right. At the time of the year. We don't want, I'm with you. You can move, pick it. Hey, yeah. Shitty games, those type of games, you become spring football. You know, we don't, we don't, we don't worry about you.

We'll just take our top team. I'm okay with that, but I know I'm bitching and complaining about the overtime rule. I just, as an offensive guy, I love it. But as a football guy, I want both over times to change. So we actually don't have ties in the NFL. But why is it we have ties in the NFL, but we don't have the college?

Did that make sense to you guys? Well, because people love ties. Yeah. Yeah. I love ties. You guys love ties. Yeah. No, I love ties. When you see that extra one in the standings and you don't know.

You guys just, you guys love that fucking chaos. Yes. Exactly. Love the chaos in there. All right. Sean, last question. The C-keek question. Put in promo code take. You get $10 off your C-keek purchase.

Let's do, give me your prediction for the Super Bowl. You get the benefit of doing it halfway through the season or three quarters of the way through the season. And then are you just going to say Alabama's going to win the national championship? Cause that's fine. You could say that. Yeah. Well, I think they're going to win the national title. If they play their best, they're not getting beat.

No matter who else plays their best. Right. Because Dick Saban's never had a team where the quarterback's the best player. His quarterback, he's always had 31st round picks, but the quarterback's just been kind of a guy. You know, he's, he's been kind of, but now they've got their best player.

They got 31st round picks and their quarterback's the best player in the country. And he's their best player. So I would think Alabama, unless they just down their leg, I would assume they're going to win it. But the Clemson's not going away. George is going to give them all they can handle.

I think for a while in the game in the SEC championship game, but I'll take Bama, pick them at the beginning. And that's not like we were going out on a limb with that one, but I don't think any of us thought two would be this good. We knew he was good, just not this good. And in the NFL, I'm going to, I'm not a waffler. I'm not going to bullshit. So I did this with that.

I picked the Patriots and the Saints in August. And I'm sticking with it. I picked the Saints are the best team now. The Patriots are kind of flounder around. This is about the time everybody says, oh, we have to worry about them. And they go on about a six game win in a row. New Yorkers make them struggle like they did today.

They go through it. And then they focus. And then in January, nobody wants to play him. I'm going to stick with the Patriots and I'm going to stick with the Saints in the Super Bowl. I picked the Saints are the best team. This may be the year the Patriots lose two in a row in the Super Bowl, but I'm sticking with those two teams.

And as good as Mahomes is, you know, if this continues, you can't not give Breeze the MVP. You have to give it to him. I agree. He's the best player in the league. All right, Sean, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

We got our new phrase. What is it? Jesse Astman? Jesse Astman. Jesse Astman. You know, we got a football player, Jesse. Yeah, football player, Jesse. My guy, my guy, my guy, Schlerz loved that.

He, he, he, he's big on that. He, he's really great. And everyone is just a fucking full grown-ass man. And we've seen that watch that'll be one of those guys. And we got a handful of those guys in a league already. Okay. All right. Real quick before we let you go, just complete this and it's just so I can, you know,

have good imagination thoughts about, about the Texans. Okay. The Texans will win the Super Bowl if. The Texans will win the Super Bowl if Lady on Bell lands in their lap on a miracle because the rule, the NFL rules change before the end of the season. Okay. So now I know what I have to do. Okay. That's fine.

I'll lose my piggy for that if they change the rules. There you go. All right, Sean, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Hey, thanks for having me on. You guys are great, man. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Sean.

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put it out there for the vote, vote for it. Mike Vrabel, quote, he said, the NFL is like crime, it never takes a day off. Also dovetails nicely with what Ray Lewis said about it, where when there's no one else up. Yeah, Sean McDermott, coach of the Bills, coach the entire game with a bloody nose, bleeding all over himself.

Jimbo Fisher, in that crazy seven-over-time game which we thought would never end, which was, LSU got screwed over and over again and it was wrong whoever threw the Gatorade on Coach O and I don't like it. He said about Kendrick Rogers, crazy one-handed catch and third-over-time. He said, well, that's just what he's supposed to do.

It's a great Football Guy. Listen, one-handed too, if that's your job. Kirk Ferenc, after his game against Iowa, Nebraska, he actually did look like he had been beat up. Like he had, he had welled up eyes, a bloody lip and I don't know what happened. There's an accidental headbutt, yeah. An inadvertent headbutt from one of his players.

He was probably trying to kiss his player on the mouth and forgot he was wearing a helmet. Coach the whole game. Okay, that's Football Guy of the Week. Check it out on our Twitter, app, pardon my take, and vote. I'm just pissed off that McDermott when he, so he's got the bloody nose. If there had been a snow game,

that would have been the best I fucking love cocaine meme of all time. True. We were all cheated. You got robbed. And by the way, breaking news, Aaron Rodgers, breaking moves. Aaron Rodgers is so, so much mailing this whole entire season in that he didn't even come up

with a cool saying, he just listed the package schedule. He did a Bill Simmons segment instead of coming up with a cool phrase like, kill them all. We got the Jets. We got to win at the Bears. Then we're going to back home. It's like, come on, man. Going to New York is probably going to be snowing.

Win that one. Need a little help. That's actually where they need a little help. Need a lot of help is the cool phrase that came up. Also a little Trouble in Paradise. I don't know if you saw this, but Kato Kalin has weighed in on the Packers season. He said, Rodgers puts more fucking energy

in state farm commercials than Packers games. Facts. Ever since state farm campaign, Green Bay has gone downhill. No joke, this team is over. Vikings crushed by the Bears, but dominate Packers. Why? Why? Why? Do you suck Packers?

These are all caps. Sundays are depressing enough. So, if you've lost Kato Kalin. I'm not gonna, can you actually read that again real quick? Yeah. Rodgers puts more fucking energy in state farm commercial than Packers game. Ever since state farm campaign,

Green Bay has gone downhill. No joke, this team is over. Vikings crushed by the Bears, but dominate versus Packers. Why? Why? Why? Do you suck Packers? Sundays are depressing enough. So.

Just that first line one more time. Listen, just one more first line. Rodgers puts more fucking energy in state farm commercial than Packers game. Oh, okay, man. Listen, I'm not saying it. No one get mad at me. I'm not saying it's Kato Kalin.

Listen, when you've lost Kato Kalin, you really fucked up. So he stood, Kato stood by OJ. But Mike McCarthy is a bridge too far for him to defend. I think Kato Kalin might have canceled the Brewers season where they had the best season in like 20 years. No less than 161 times. I'm just saying like this,

it's a strong rebuke from Kato Kalin. Okay, so segments. First up, we have a humans versus the sun. What did you have there? So yeah, NASA has released a plan to combat global warming. And it's just basically they're going to dim. So well, I'm sorry, it's not NASA.

It's also not global warming. It's climate change. Thank you. Harvard and Yale scientists are proposing that we tackle climate change by dimming the sun. Now it sounds crazy, but according to the research, it would actually cut the rate of global warming in half. So we're finally taking on that bastard sun.

So how do you dim the sun? That's a good question. Have you ever seen the Simpsons? Well, I was going to say, do you remember in, let's probably like late 90s, early aughts when you probably got a dimmer and you're like holy shit, dimmer? Like this, like dimmers didn't used to be

in every light switch. And when they came around, it was some wild times. Let me tell you. You still feel like the clapper? You feel like a fucking boss when you walk into a room and you've got the dimmers where you can like adjust it. And yeah, they say you're like, you say, hey, you guys want me to, you want me to fix this real quick?

You want me to set the mood? Like you basically feel like God. And that's what NASA is doing. We're going to dim the sun. We're going to set a mood. We're going to be, we're going from a McDonald's to a five star restaurant with some, where you can barely see the menu.

I was going to say McDonald's to like Olive Garden. Yeah. So if you, if you turn earth into mood lighting, that's just going to make everybody fuck more. Yeah. Seriously though, how do they do this? Then there's more global warming. Yeah. How do they do this?

They release a bunch of stuff into the atmosphere. Oh, that sounds healthy. Yeah. So the thing I read was they just have a bunch of planes. Chemtrails is chemtrails. So they're actually making chemtrails. Fuck. I mean, I'm probably in for it.

This is actually though, remember, like for the longest time, like, well, science will figure out how to fix this. And then we just found out that their whole like solution was to just get a bunch of aerosols, spray cans, to just, you know, fly around and spray shit. Yeah. So essentially they're just saying everybody burns styrofoam all at once. Yeah. They're like, fuck it.

We're not smarter than you guys. We're actually the exact same intelligence. Yeah. We're going to take. We just have a shitload of planes. We're going to take what you guys have been doing for the last 50 years, except we're going to industrialize and reproduce on a mass scale. I'm pretty sure we have.

Like I've always been like, hey, why don't they just make another ozone and release it in the air? OK. Harvard and Yale. Here's an idea. Giant umbrella. Boom. Boom. Problem solved.

I'm talking fucking huge umbrella. How about just a huge bubble? Yeah. Like you do. Just blow an enormous bubble. Yeah. Use the wind. You're always talking about this wind power we have. Make a giant bubble crater so the wind blows through it.

Yeah. And turn the earth into just like a giant. Big, like, yeah, like a glow. Well, it's already a globe, but like a, you know. Snow globe. Snow globe. Yeah. Yeah.

That'll cool it right off. Yeah. Perfect. All right. Next up we have, did you learn something there, Hank? I think you did. Update on your low man trophy. Yeah. So well, it's our low man trophy. It's our low man trophy.

You're just the head of the committee. I'm the point man. Yeah. You're the guy who goes up and gives the speech and delivers the actual award. Hank and Bubba and myself were the committee that everyone get mad at. Yes.

Because we're in the shadows and we help decide the trophy. Yeah. You're the deep state of the low man trophy. So we've got some nominees that have come forward. I'm adding one person to the list this week with your permission. And this is the fullback from Air Force Academy, Cole Fagan. So on Thanksgiving. Cole is, yes, done.

Say no more. OK. Say no more, fam. So what I'm about to say might actually change your mind because he rushed for two. Let me stop you right there. Say no more, fam. He rushed for 260 yards.

Is that too much? No. For a fullback? His name's Cole. You could have stopped at Cole. OK. Cole Fagan is officially on the watch list for the low man committee. And we've got a stellar committee.

It is the four of us. And it's Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs. OK. It is. Shermanator. Yeah, the Shermanator. It is Vonte Leach. It is the esteemed John Kuhn.

It's the esteemed Aaron Ripkowski. It is Jacob Hester. OK. And I feel like I'm leaving. Can we get someone out there to get in touch with Max Strong? Yeah. If anybody knows Max Strong, I mean, that's the ultimate fullback name. Yes, we've got to.

And someone get in touch with Mike Alstott and just tell him that his vote trumps all of our votes. So if Mike Alstott decides who wins, we could all vote one way. And he gets to decide. So we're going to be convening the committee this week to narrow it down. You want to say three finalists? Sure.

Three finalists by a meeting that we're going to go? No, no, no. OK, all right, got it. Three finalists by the end of the week. Well, I was scared for a second there. No meetings. Don't put that on my calendar. Listen, that's the one thing I don't look at that.

Being a fullback. You don't have to have a meeting to tell you to hit the guy in front of you. Yeah, we're just into it. We just put up some pictures in front of my face. And I'll tell you what my vote is. Which guy is the most fullback guy? All right, last up, we have an embraced debate.

This came up for the, what was the quote from Cordell Patterson, who's a recurring guest in front of the program? OK, yeah. Cordell Patterson said on why he was caught on CBS grabbing someone's stuff. This is from Connor Orr on Twitter. What's his stuff? His balls.

So he grabbed, what's the guy's name? Harry something? Yeah, Harry. Henry something. Harry Henderson. Harry Handful. He said, I'm a grown man. I don't need no one's ass and dick and balls in my face.

So embrace debate as another grown man. As a football playing Jesse grown ass man, do you need another man's ass, balls, and dick in your face? It's your QB. Oh, that's it. Yeah, well, it's on the back of your hand. Good point, Hank. That is good.

I'm going to say no, but if you're QB and also, I don't know. Yeah, I'm going to say no. Listen, I'm going to say no. Well, your final answer, no. Here's the thing. You don't need it. Yeah, right. But it can be, I could see how it could be advantageous sometimes.

Yeah, right, right. And I also, that was such a perfect, because you know this happens all the time, but just the perfect camera angle of him just getting a full on crotch grab. Just grabbing, just right at like the base of the scrotum and just squeezing. You know what? People won't go at him now.

That's true. He said no. He said the message. You know what? I'll grab your dick. I'll grab your dick so hard, you might come. You might come. That would be a really effective offense.

Yes, yeah, exactly. Like you can't tackle a guy if he's making you come. Right. That would be very impolite. Well, Phil Rivers did have an unbelievable game, and I'm sure he came at some point. Yeah, but he wasn't tackling him. Yeah, that's true.

25, was it 25 in a row? 25 completions in a row. Fuck, man. Phil Rivers, I love Phil Rivers. Yeah, he's a famer. Is A, is he playing at an, is he deserving to be in the discussion of MVP this year? Absolutely.

This is the year where we just get everyone who doesn't, who hasn't won an MVP, get them into the discussion. All the old guys. Yeah. And Patrick Holmes, he's never won an MVP. That's very true. So, yeah, get them all in. Let's have a little, like, you know,

last go around for all of them. Imagine a Chargers Saints Super Bowl. Oh, man. Drew Brees revenge game. Oh, while we're on embrace debate, I kind of like those Chargers uniforms, the dark blue with the yellow, or whatever, the navy blue with the yellow face masks.

Not the powder blues. The Schwarm says those are greatest uniforms in all sports, and I don't, even if I, even if I was colorblind, I'd be like, yep, you'd never say that you disagree with that. Nope. But kind of like those jerseys. Those are really nice. They are nice, yeah.

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