Pardon My Take - NFL Week 13, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bears Fire Eberflus, Eagles Are For Real And Josh Allen vs Saquon For MVP

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

NFL Week 13 we start with Fastest 2 minutes and then recap every game (00:00:00-00:09:04) Lions 23, Bears 20 (00:00:00-00:31:11) Cowboys 27, Giants 20 (00:31:11-00:40:35) Packers 30, Dolphins 17 (00:40:35-00:45:30) Chiefs 19, Raiders 17 (00:45:30-00:56:16) Steelers 44, Bengals 38 (00:56:16-01:06:40) Chargers 17, Falcons 13 (01:06:40-01:10:48) Vikings 23, Cardinals 22 (01:10:48-01:16:47) Commanders 42, Titans 19 (01:16:47-01:27:42) Colts 25, Patriots 24 (01:27:42-01:34:49) Texans 23, Jaguars 20 (01:34:49-01:39:09) Seahawks 26, Jets 21 (01:39:09-01:52:53) Bucs 26, Panthers 23 (01:52:53-02:03:57) Rams 21, Saints 14 (02:03:57-02:07:45) Eagles 24, Ravens 19 (02:07:45-02:18:28) Bills 35, Niners 10 (02:18:28-02:26:52) We then finish with who's back of the week and talk a little Michigan/Ohio State (02:26:52-02:45:28).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a lot of football to get to week 13, including the Thanksgiving Day games. The Bears have finally fired a coach. We have the Bengals dead. The Eagles looking for real for real. Commanders back. A lot to get to and we're gonna start with fastest two minutes. It's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. DraftKings is offering a warm welcome to new players with $100 instantly in casino credits with just a $10 wager. It's the most wonderful time of the year.

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Not gonna get em. Let us be the last to wish you and your family a very merry Thanksgiving we start in Cincinnati where the scoring started when it's Cam Taylor Brittany bitch ran back an interception for a touchdown Starting what would be a shootout in the AFC North Russell Wilson opened up a can a whoop-ass hitting Calvin Stone Cold Steve Austin for a touchdown as well as visiting the Friar Muth fairy for another score as for the Bengals A late plane white T Higginson touchdown wasn't enough and they're singing. Hey there Lombardi What's it like in playoff city? I'm a thousand miles away, but girl you look so pretty yes You do as Cincinnati's playoff chances are officially DEAD.

Steelers 44 Bengals 38. We go over to Atlanta where Plaid McConkey ran some complicated but interesting winter patterns and Kirk Cousins had some wicked interceptions that were defying gravity as he should have spent more time in his bi-week engineering scores and less time singing along to them. The Chargers defense had Jim Harbaugh saying, Tarheeb still rockin' the khakis with the cuff in the crease and I'm still on the sidelines rockin' clates. It's the Chargers 17, the Falcons 13. Up to Minnesota, wake up, wake up, it's the first of the month. As Johnny was able to score to Fur furious Vikings comeback

Jonathan Gannon Elizabeth said Nadia to putting the ball in the end zone instead choosing for five field goals from Chad This land is your land this land is Ryland and the game came down to Sam Donald Palmer who is all man by the way finding Karen Jones for the go-ahead touchdown as Cardinals fans left with a disappointing Yelp review. Hello, 911. Yes, we lost the game that we should have won. We need a police officer here right now.

Vikings, 23, Cardinals, 22. And we head to Foxborough where Henry Lockwood was on the scene. Down to Foxborough where Anthony Sha'qari Richardson was smoking the Pats defense running the ball down the field all day long. We'll get to that later. Jonathan the tool man Taylor caught a TD to give the Colton early lead, but Draker Mayfield was feeling dangerous gunning it to Hunter Henry Biden, but couldn't get him a pardon into the end zone. He did connect with his dog Austin Booper in the third quarter though to give the pass a lead.

This game came all the way down to the wire before Anthony Peyton Pritcherton at the buzzer BANG! Punches in the two point conversion to give the Colts a 25-24 victory. Thanks Hank! Way to work at Peyton Pritchard there. I notice that even when you lose, you win. Peyton Pritchardson. We now head to the happiest member of Pardon My Take.

It's memes in the swamp of the metal lands. In New York, where Geno Smith finally showed up to play the charity case that is the New York Jets. Ric Flair, Kanae Quang, whoo, strutted like the nature boy for 99 yards for a Jets touchdown. Jason Mike Myers said, I'll take three, my lord, to bring the Seahawks within two. And Leonard Williams finished old Aaron Yeller Rogers off by shooting him in the head and sacking him dead. Seahawks 26, Jets 21. We go to Jacksonville where Aziz Al-Shahir responsible knocked Trevor Lordrance of the

rings into concussion protocol bringing on the return of the Mac as Jones was forced into the game. The Jaguars mounted a furious comeback with Brian Thomas the Tank Engine who looked at his owner and said, I think I con, I think I con, but PJ Stroud tucked him good night sleep tight, don't let the bed dugs bite, as Peterson is still the coach the Jag was I guess? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?

The Jag's Jag off 20! In Carolina where Bryce Young dumb and full of cum doesn't know he's supposed to bust and is instead playing great ball. The second year quarterback was steely Dan down the stretch as he found Adam Thielen in the years as for a late touchdown to put the Panthers ahead. But it was too much time for Undertaker Mayfield as the Bucs playoff chances popped out of the coffin and reminded everyone you can't kill a dead man as Chase McLaughlin's insanity struck with two field goals late for the win.

Bucs 26, Panthers 23, we head on now to Baltimore where Max is back We head over to Baltimore where Justin sucker continues to have a sucky year of sucking as he missed two field goals in an extra point Hey, mr. De green mr. De green. I just want you to know that I think I think that you're the best ever for laying the boom on Derek Henry Christopher Nolan Nolan Smith Jr. has gone nuclear as he recorded another sack while officially becoming Death, the destroyer of worlds. Eagles 24, Ravens 19. Thanks Max! We finish in our nation's capital where the Hennessy Titans looked like they were a little drunk and bottled up Brian Swiss family Robinson was very hard for the Titans D to read but the film will be easier to understand

Meanwhile, Will Lettuce didn't wilt down mostly because he was kept in a lot of airtight sacks Jaden Manhattan Daniels was made this a laugher for the ROM commanders Disappearing behind his linemen like skinny from the block running up the score leading some to accuse Dan Quinjam and Netanyahu of really overdoing it with a bunch of weapons provided to him by Washington the commander's 42 the Titans 19 And that was week 13 brought to you by our friends at Chevy There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore of pickup trucks and that's because for Pardon My Take, there's only one pickup truck, the Chevy Silverado. Why is that?

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Yeah. Well, including Maction too. Yeah, it was, Thanksgiving week goes exactly the same every year where somewhere around like Saturday afternoon, my body starts to like be like, you can't just do this every single day where all you do is eat leftovers and watch football from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to sleep. Well what's awesome about about Saturdays you get second Saturday. Yeah. Because Friday is basically Saturday on Thanksgiving week. Correct. When you wake up and you get to redo Saturday all over again. Correct. So it feels like forever ago but we are gonna talk about the

Thanksgiving Day games. This was though. I was very close to Texting the boys on Thanksgiving being like should we do an emergency pod because Lions 23 Bears 20? What a game that was it was every it was something It was literally every Bears game in one where it was a nationally televised game With the Bears looking as bad as possible in the first half just being a joke of a team in front of the entire country. Then Caleb Williams playing phenomenal football in the second half having them come all the way back and then losing in they have invented new ways to lose.

They have lost six in a row I believe believe now, the Hail Mary, two games where they quit, a block field goal against your rival, an overtime loss, and then the timeout came. Yeah. It's insane. It's, it's actually, I was thinking about this because it's a sick thing that the Bears do to you. I'm not talking about figuring out new ways to lose games. That's actually very mentally stimulating. It's, it's creative and I applaud them for that. But what they do is they play so shitty and get their teeth kicked in the first half of games and then people tune out. Right. And then they don't see the Bears come back

and then they look up when somebody tells them, Hey, the Bears actually just made this a football game. You should probably watch the end of it. And then you get to see the Bears lose at the very end. So they get all the dog shit from the Bears and a lot of people miss out on any of the good stuff that ever happens. But this Thanksgiving, everyone stays watching and they watched the whole thing and it was just an epic like failure of an ending. But God bless the broken road that led us to Matt Eberfluss being fired for the first time in a hundred years for the Chicago Bears.

Yes. You've had the you've had the necklace removed from your neck. Yeah, it was it was obvious that it had to happen Because there's never been a worse coach in close games than Matt Eberfluss Like I think that statistically actually is proven true the timeout is So obviously Caleb deserves some blame for it But in hearing everything it basically and I talked to some guys like I talked to our good

friend Kyle Long and I was like tell me straight like what what happens here he's like look it's probably 50-50 Caleb Matt Eberfluss but the second there's any hesitation it's like 80-20 Matt Eberfluss Caleb where it's the second there's hesitation the coach his job is to hit a time out there and be like whoa shit's getting out of control we got to hit a timeout there and be like, Whoa, shit's getting out of control. We got to hit a timeout reset. And Matty before he was talking after the game basically didn't take any ownership and said, well, this is how we want to set it up. And went in explaining how he wanted to set it up. He literally explained that if you had called the timeout with 30 seconds left, you would have set up exactly what you wanted to do, which is get another five, 10 yards, clock the ball. If you don't get a first down, you can, with 30 seconds, you

can rush everyone out. If you do, you clock the ball, you kick a field goal, try to go to overtime. He also acted like it would be impossible to throw the ball to somebody and then get out of bounds. Yeah. He was like, well, we want to keep that time out because we wanted to have a time out for a field goal unit, the operation to get on the field acting like it would be impossible to get out of bounds or throw an incomplete pass. The whole thing was just a perfect encapsulation of Matt Eberfluss being one of the worst like crunch time coaches possible. So I knew I said it on Wednesday's show.

I was like this is and I was actually like I do my hit with Waddle and Sylvie every Wednesday and I said to him I was like, you know, this is the last day that we're gonna have to watch a Matt Eberfluss coach team and they're like no way no way I was like no, I seriously I didn't think it was gonna go down this way But I thought he was gonna get fired on Friday morning and then to add just the perfect cherry on top the Bears even fucked Up his firing where I know how the Bears operate. What happened is this on Wednesday or Thursday, it's Thanksgiving, it's a holiday. The Bears have that terrible, terrible loss. You could read the tea leaves in the locker

room like Kevin Warren and Ryan Pohl's were sticking around in the locker room extra long, talking to players, all this stuff. Ryan Pohl's and Kevin Warren can't make a decision without George McCasky. George McCasky probably was like, it's Thanksgiving, don't call me. So they weren't able to talk to George McCasky about firing Matt Eberfluss until Friday morning. Matt Eberfluss had his scheduled 9 a.m. press conference. They were doing the meeting talking about firing him

while he was doing the press conference. He gets out of the press conference like, oh yeah, by the way, you're fired. That's just how dysfunctional this team and this organization is, that they couldn't reach probably the owner on Thanksgiving to be like, Hey, just so you know, we got to fire this guy. He's a moron. And in the press conference, Eber Fluss was asked, I think three or four times,

like, Hey, are you fired yet? Yeah. Do you think you're going to be fired? That's all they kept asking him over and over. And he's like, well, we do our normal operation. He goes to everything in operation, by the way, we do everything, you know, according to the standard procedure, which is, uh, we talk right after the game and then we're going to talk the next day. And yeah, as he's having that press conference, he's being fired. He doesn't know about it. Then he goes, he gets fired.

Do you think in a weird way that this was like a job interview, like the Bears were interviewing for Ben Johnson during the game? During the game. It's like do we look enticing enough for you Ben to want to come coach us next season? Here's the thing. I want Ben Johnson. I also I want to say this because I'm I'm I'm I'm going to get optimistic about whoever the Bears hire even though they'll probably end up with like the fourth option. I want Ben Johnson or Mike Vrabel the one thing with Ben Johnson, I think he's a very

good play caller. do you get his offensive line too? Because a lot of his play calls are good because he has an offensive line that is elite. And they take a little bit longer to develop. And I think Ben Johnson would be good no matter what. But then again, the Bears organization will probably ruin anyone because at the end of the day, it's the McCaskys. And it's Virginia McCasky who is very, very old, but she put her dumb son in charge

who says that he's not a football guy, who in the, I think he took over in like 2011, they have been to the playoffs twice in the 14 years, they've won zero playoff games, they've fired five head coaches, they fired three GMs, They fired three offensive coordinators. Uh, they have been 93 and 130. No matter what they do, George McCasky and the McCasky family still runs his team and they are a joke and

they are terrible owners. And I don't know that he does the worst thing where he doesn't want it. He says he doesn't want to metal, but then he also needs to probably be consulted to fire a head coach. It's like dude that's meddling and he also puts Kevin Warren who was supposed to build a stadium in charge of now the head coach because Ryan Poles is safe but Kevin Warren is I don't know if you saw that rap port was like Ryan Poles will be helping Kevin Warren in search of the new head coach. Kevin Warren hates football. Yeah if I I do this, listen, if you're not a football guy and you're in charge of a football team, you should probably try to find a different

job. I'm sure he can find a different. I'm sure that there's a number of foundations around Chicago that would like a McCasky to be in charge of them. It's a joke, man. It's a joke. You should become a football guy once you become the head of a football. You would think the, the, the family business, you also family business, your grandfather started, basically started the NFL, the family business, your grandfather started, basically started the NFL, the family business. And you're like, yeah, I'm actually not a big football fan. That's well, no, he does say he's a big football fan. He just says he doesn't know football. So you should learn football. Yes. You had a lot of time. You should learn to love football.

If you're growing up and you're watching the 85 bears, you should become obsessed with football. You would know. Children would become a, they, I question, I questioned their parenting now for not getting their children and their grandchildren into football to the point where they become football guys. But he's been, he's been running the show for 14 years and it's been an absolute failure. And so I don't think anything is going to, I I'm going to be, again, I will be optimistic because I'm optimistic by nature whenever they announced the new head coach. And I will say just cause I have to be fair, good job firing the head coach when it was clear he needed to be fired because you were going to like brisker. I don't know if you guys saw, but he hated Matty Brafus. He's just been sub tweeting him. Caleb Williams is good. And I know that people will, there's a lot of people who box

score watcher, they've only seen him in primetime games. Caleb Williams is very, very good. He's on pace for 3,700 yards, 20 plus touchdowns and less than 10 interceptions. The only other rookies to do it. I would assume Jane Dale is going to do it. Maybe Bo Nicks, but the only other two rookies to do those numbers are Justin Herbert and CJ Straub. And he's been going in his heads. He's had, he's going to be on his third offensive coordinator in one season and his second head coach. Cause Thomas Brown is now interim, so I would assume he's not going to be calling all the plays. It's insane how good Caleb Williams has been given how bad the coaching has been and what they've done in terms of coaching to stunt his growth.

Yeah. So looking at Thomas Brown, the interim head coach, I don't know much about the guy, but just off the measure. Running back coach for the Badgers when they ran all over Will Compton. Sorry, Will Compton. Right. So here's what I like about his measurables. He is a five eight and 203 pounds stout stout man. He was at one point the strength and conditioning coach for the university of Georgia. I like these credentials as an interim head coach McVay tree McVay tree. And by the way, I want to stick up for you real quick. Big cat. A lot of people out there, cause I get tagged in a lot of them are doing some very mean Photoshop's and I would like to put a list of names and please do not Photoshop this coach as head coach of the Bears

Okay Ryan day. Yeah, please stop with Ryan day Photoshop's Cliff Kingsbury Cliff Kingsbury good offensive coordinate Please do not put him on Photoshop good offensive coordinator Ron coordinate. Please do not put him on Photoshop. Good offensive coordinator. Ron Rivera. Please do not put him like him. Nice guy. Don't put him on Mike McCarthy. Don't put him on. Mike McCarthy saved his job. Mike Malarkey. He's already been offered the job. He's been offered the job according to Ian Rappaport. Yeah, that's true. Hugh Jackson. Do not put please stop. Do not do not Photoshop these. How do we feel about Rex Ryan? Do not Photoshop those. That's on the do not nice guys. Okay, that's all I had on my list But it's most importantly no Ryan day. Yeah, stop doing that. You know, I mean all in all it was just a chaotic 24 hours on Thanksgiving

It was it it put me in a tailspin for the second half of Thanksgiving Day Yeah, what was what were you? Where were you watching and how did that affect the rest of Thanksgiving dinner and the kids? The kids were kind of all over me during the game so I had to remove myself and watch in my bedroom and then scream at the TV. And then yeah, I was, I was not, I wasn't a joy to be around, I would say. I wasn't a joy to be around. But in a way it's like, this is so bad

that they have to do something. Yeah, no, I was a joy to be around on Friday. Friday was until the Badgers lost. By the way, fun fact, people are like, hey, you're so negative. Hey, why are you in such a bad mood? Now that the month of November is gone, I did not win a football game in the month of November

between the Wisconsin Badgers and the Chicago Bears. I think I went 0-9. That's really hard to do. It's a bad month. That's really, really hard to do. And I lost in really bad ways. Like left and right, everything, everything, every way I lost, I basically picked, if you had to write, how can you lose a game? I checked every single box. It's pretty incredible run you went on. It's generational. It's really, really bad. So yeah, it was uh, it was a tough it was tough Hank Thankfully, I had the Cowboys so that that that bounced me back a little but yeah, thanksgiving listen Thanksgiving people like all it's so it's fun It's about family stuff No

it's about trying to win bets and Not have your team lose and I just wish we wouldn't play on Thanksgiving because I knew I knew something bad I didn't think it was gonna be that bad I mean you guys you guys were watching this bad game when the timeout happened. Will you just I was just sitting there like how is this happening. Yeah. I was just watching. It was watching a car crash but it wasn't even watching a car crash because he's watching a car crash but you could like stop time and be like hey dude don't crash that car. Like you have a timeout. They're not going to throw but then but then but then after not calling the timeout, I was yelling at the TV being

like, what are they doing? What are they doing? And then it was like, surely they're not going to drop back and throw a deep pass. Well then, yeah. Then Caleb had to panic and like it was guys were coming back slow. Then Caleb screwed up. Then Maddie again, Maddie Berfluss. I do think Caleb fucked up and that's a learning experience. He's a rookie. The head coach's job is to call a timeout and be like, Hey guys, let's stop. Let's fucking figure this out. The look on that literally his job too, like right after that play was over and he knew that he fucked up and he just did no, no muscle on his face moved. He just stared off into the distance like, well, that's probably it for me. Yeah. He might as well have a blindfold and a cigarette

in his mouth on that one. Yeah. It was, yeah. I think everybody, including lions fans were probably yelling at the TV. What are you doing? Mad Iberflux. Yeah, it was yeah, I think everybody including Lions fans were probably yelling at the TV What are you doing Maddy? Yeah, it was crazy. It was nuts What max you can say something? I just laughed. Yeah, I mean it was funny. What else classic of a classic? Bears move in the history of their they found every single way it was they found every single way Really? He refuses dumb face on the sideline as it was the dumbest Dumbest coach face that I've ever seen that's where that's where I was in my bedroom screaming at the TV I made a video just screaming at him Look at this fucking face this fucking idiot

Which there are some coaches though that have like very satisfying dumb coach faces when they absolutely fuck things up. But I think that Maddie Berfluse that what we saw on Thanksgiving. So stupid. That was the stupidest face he's ever made. And Kayla played well again in the second half. Like he brought that he looked really bad in the first half. The offense looked completely like lifeless. And then again, he drives them.

I know there's there's plays he met like DJ more, if he hits DJ more coming across with like, I don't know, 45 seconds left, he probably runs in for a touchdown. But again, I, I think Caleb Williams, given what he has been stacked against in terms of the coaching has been great, especially the last few games. So I'm very bullish about that. And he had to get rid of Matt Eberfluss because you had to just be like, we can't keep doing this. Are you, um, so you do want Ben Johnson now that you have your concerns about the offensive line. Ben Johnson or Mike Vrabel would be my one, one a one B basically both one a either one.

I'd be very happy. I feel like Mike Vrabel is the direction you guys are going to go. I was not going to go to OSU. No member. He doesn't want to. Well, you don't listen to the show. Yeah. He said that to us. He did. Now that was, we were on a golf means kind of means good job by memes. He put out the clip right away on Saturday. I, we were on a golf trip. No, he doesn't want to recruit the bears. The bears want,

they've been like openly saying we want a leader of men, which tells me that they're looking at like a Mike Frey, and less inclined for a Ben Johnson And then Ben Johnson linked it he leaked to Sheffty over the weekend that he would be interested in the Bears Yeah, if they come correct. Well, I think I think we've weirdly become as bad as the Organization is and the and the owners are Caleb definitely makes it enticing because that's what any any perspective coach says. Is there a quarterback there? Yeah. And he's a court. He's a he's a good quarterback who looks promising and looks like he could be a real guy. So you would want like I think we are weirdly appealing, which as long as they don't figure out like as long as they

don't meet George McCasky, I think it's an appealing job. And Mike Vrabel, I haven't decided if I'm going to do this yet. But if he took the Bears head coaching job I think I would. I've only done this for one other person. I think it was Jim Harbaugh when I was trying to get him to be the Bears head coach last year. I think I would make a I will never criticize Mike Vrabel packed. Yeah I will never say a bad thing about Mike Vrabel if he takes the job. What about what? I haven't decided yet. I'm going to, I'm going to, I might actually try to sell that to him. You know, it'd be a big time Bears move if they went out, they got Pat Fitzgerald.

No, that'd be a big time. No, you know, who's, who's getting, uh, leaked is Marcus Freeman. Oh yeah. Yeah. Marcus Freeman was a Schrager. Text me that this morning. Then he was like, I'm going to go just say it on NFL network. I was like, thanks dude. What What about what about about a coach trade? I feel like

the Jets if anybody does a coach trade, it'd probably be the Jets. No, I'll tell you the no the Jets have their own. They don't have a coach. Yes, I'm saying we they you can trade for a coach is what I'm saying. They don't have we trained for. Yeah, we don't have. We don't have we don't we both don't have coach. No, I'm saying you can they don't have one. Who do we train for? Yeah, we don't have one, you don't have one. We both don't have coaches. No, I'm saying you can acquire a coach via trade, like the Bucks got. Oh, another coach.

Yeah, yeah, got it, got it, got it. Not trading your coach. No, I do not wanna do that. Using free agency to acquire, or not free agency, but the trade deadline to acquire a currently employed coach. Yes, the Jets would trade a first round pick for someone. Oh, for McVeigh.

Yeah. They would. It means you're thinking about it right now. And now you're thinking this might be a good idea. No. Well, no. I was thinking we don't have a GM, so I guess somebody could just send a first round pick.

Like maybe the owner? Is that something that you think Woody Johnson might be interested in? If he just sent 10 first round picks for John McVeigh. Yeah, 10 first round picks. By the way, we should talk about the Lions real quick. They are very banged up on defense. Well, they acquired Jamal Adams.

They did. Blitz boys back. Man in the box, Allison Chains. It does feel like the Lions, I mean this game on Thursday night against the Packers is going to be massive, massive. Because I'm of the belief at this point that if the Eagles get home field advantage, they're gonna go to the soup this point that if the Eagles get home field advantage

They're gonna go to the soup. Oh, so if the Lions get home field advantage, they're gonna go to the soup I mean, I think the Eagles are right there with the Lions. Yeah right there with them right there neck and neck We'll get to it. Yeah, we'll get to it. Yeah, their defense is they were missing a lot of guys, especially in the second half They're very injured. Everyone's injured though. I Still believe in the Lions this time of year. Everyone's injured though. I still believe in the Lions. This time of year, everyone's being, everyone's banged up. No excuses. I did love the one play that the Lions ran in the first half, the little trick play that they put the ball in Penae Sula's hands and you just started beasting people. I don't even know if there

was a, like a pass or a designed run. I think they just wanted to put the ball in his hands and let him just shove people around. That was at the point of the game where it was as embarrassing as possible. And Ben Johnson was like, fuck it. These guys suck. Yeah. I just want to do some cool shit. I want to watch Panaiso will shove people over. Yeah. He was, he is scary. I going to tackle him is very, very scary, but yeah, uh, it was a crazy, crazy Thanksgiving. Um, I just chaotic.

I basically spent like the next hour mumbling to myself, like, why didn't you call a timeout? Why didn't you call a timeout? And I was not over it for a long time. And again, the worst part about this game is that I, after the Packers game, I made a pledge to myself to not let this team hurt me for the rest of the year because apathy had started to, you know, like take over. And it was like, look, we're not going to the playoffs. I just going to watch kale Williams on Sunday and be happy with that. I was actually mad about this game and I was mad. And then I got mad at myself for getting mad at the game. I mean, if you beat a really, really good team, a really,

really good team, then that, that does huge, huge numbers for your ego. Right. And it's just, you have a shitty team. You can be like, we could just, if we play like that every week, then we would be that really good team. Yeah. And it's, I mean, they, Caleb Williams is now just basically every game he goes on game winning drives that just aren't game winning drives because something terrible happens. Yeah. And it just happens over and over. So you want to cut those off at some point. You don't want them to start accumulating those losses. I I mean and to start like, you know We've seen quarterbacks and we've seen head coaches that just accumulate sad losses and they just weigh on them I'm not stay with them. I'm in full groundhogs mode with with like the

Team two years ago and last year where it's like, oh, I feel good Like they're making progress but winning games would be nice every now and then. Yeah. Morale. You're in that Hank now. Kind of. Yeah. Where it's like, you don't want to now you're even the fuck. No, he cared. He cared when the Patriots lost because it's your, you want your quarterback to play well one. And then you're like, eventually we got to win a game just so like everyone feels good. More so for you because you've lost for so long. Yeah, us us. I shouldn't have said my losses is a good draft pick. What do you think about the Jameer Gibbs leaking the protections? Yeah, that was crazy. Dan Campbell was very upset if you saw the so Jameer Gibbs did a tick tock in front of all of the verbiage

that the offense uses for the lions. And then after the game, a reporter told Dan Campbell and he was just like, what, what happened? And he's like, I didn't see that. And then he just walked right off. It's like that actually sucks for the, like they do. I was, I was reading, I can't remember who, who tweeted about it, but someone's like this, obviously this doesn't mean that everyone has their plays, but it means they have to learn new language this late in the season. That sucks. Yeah. It's annoying. Yeah. All of his teammates are probably really pissed off at him for that. You know what I would do is I would just not change anything and be like there's everyone thinks

we're going to change. We've changed everything. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone. Everyone assumes we're going to change what you play it real quick. He was, you could just see in his face, he was just like, oh, god damn it. Marshall calls on the whiteboard behind him. Is that something where you need to just remind a player to be smart about what they're posting on social media? Is there anything you don't think it- Who was that? I believe Gibbs posted a photo of Jefferson

with a bunch of lingo on the whiteboard in the running back room behind him. Oh, I didn't know that. I did not know that. OK, yeah, I need to check on that. Then did not know that. Yeah, I'd rather our stuff not be out there. Thanks. He walked off mad.

Of the there's probably that was probably the beginning of the press conference. It's like I got to go right now. All right. Enough about the Bears. Let's talk about the next game on third on Thanksgiving. Cowboys, 27 giants, 20. Uh, you said you wanted let's recap what we ate instead of talking about this game, which I'm fine with. I do have a couple giants things I wanted to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. I just figured a apt recap for this game would be to just talk instead about what we ate on things. Yeah. Overshown's pick was awesome. Overshown's over. Shown is a really, really good player. And Rico daddles awesome overshown. Every time I watch the Cowboys,

no matter how bad things are going, he's always, you know, he's the definite, he flies around out there. Yeah, that's what he does. Yeah. And yeah, Mike McCarthy, congratulations to him. Yeah. I think he might even get like an extension. I do too. I think he might just stick around for a while as a coach. Their defense look great. I mean, it was drew lock, but they look great. Yeah. But yeah, what did you guys eat? What was your favorite thing? He ate deep fried turkey. I did a steak this year. Steak is I like that. I like that. I think in Turkey's Turkey. Oh, you did both. Well, yeah. So we, I think you can't just go. I saw our guy Chuck calls it steak, steak giving. Uh, and I'm, I think steak is fine. You have to do a turkey just out of like, you just have to do a turkey.

But I did, I ate probably 80% steak, 20% if I switched to steak, I'm just going to do steak because Turkey is, it's the whole preparation for you have to brine it. You have to cook it. You roast it for a few hours. You deep fried. It's a big thing with the setup if you're gonna switch to steak I feel like you just make that call and you're like we're doing steak this year instead of turkey Yeah, we did both and it was fucking awesome. I might have changed the game for Thanksgiving this. Oh, yeah, I invented something. Oh Thanksgiving soup. Oh Thanksgiving soup. It was so so good. I took the leftover turkey. I made it made a turkey stock. I boiled the fried turkey carcass made a stock out of it. Then I added mashed

potatoes. I added stuffing, mac and cheese. I roasted the stuffing on the oven to use as the croutons on top. I cut up carrots. I put some green bean casserole in there because it's got cream mushroom soup as the base. Goddamn. I cut up carrots. I put some green bean casserole in there cuz got cream mushroom soup as the base Goddamn, I got somebody left. I got some leftovers. I bring it tomorrow I actually I was thinking about just bringing in the whole operation and deep frying a turkey for the bar still off Yeah, deep fried. Do it is the way to go. That sounded delicious. What would you guys eat? Lot of turkey lost stuffing. Yeah, but lot of crab cakes. How many plates?

You got crab cakes? I like crab cake like a little appetizer. Oh I did I fucking hammer. I had like 20 of them. Hammered cheese and crackers I just want turkey sandwich right out of the gate. What? Yep, right out of the gate No, sandwich? Before? For your dinner? Meal. You had leftovers before You're crazy for that. You had leftovers before... You're crazy for that. You had pre leftovers. You're crazy for that. Meal.

That is a change of the game. Wow. I also, and this was directly related to the Bears and the timeout, I think I conservatively had about 15 cookies after like 4 p.m. Yeah. I just went to Cookie Town. For me, cookies are breakfast on Thanksgiving. Yeah, I was literally just walking,

I would just walk past the kitchen and just eat two cookies and I did that for seven hours straight. You guys pumpkin pie people? I'm not. No, I fucked myself up with some pumpkin pie. I don't like pumpkin pie. I'm not a big pumpkin guy. Pumpkin pie.

Fred Smoot taught me that. Pumpkin, pumpkin's not food. It's fucking hippopotamus as he said like them. Yeah my uh, I Had this girl that came up to me one time, you know what she asked me. You ever had pumpkin pie? No, she asked me actually different question. Oh, what'd she ask? My pussy tastes like pumpkin pie. Yeah Jim I'm fuck. I didn't have no pumpkin pie. Yeah Bernie Mac Bernie Mac. Yeah. Yeah, it's the best memes, what'd you have Had some turkey heads of stuffing I didn't stop eating for like 48 hours. Have you heard Brandon do it? Yeah, okay

Yeah, I was gonna say yes done it so many times Died back tomorrow. Oh No, no, no, no Monday. No why? You can't diet between Thanksgiving and Christmas my friend. Yes you can Hank tell them. No you can't. That's crazy. It's a big month. I think this Monday is a diet. It's diet Monday. You can't. This is a give up. This is a just drink eat eat whatever you want. Yep. Poop yourself every now and then. I'm making a chicken chili tomorrow. Oh, okay. For diet. Yeah. Chicken chili is healthy. Yeah. You get a white white chili. Yeah. How much butter are you putting in it? No butter. Oh, okay. No, this Monday is the diet day and then you go back to it on Tuesday. Yeah. You

get a one day diet. Yeah. Uh, all right. I want to talk about the giant weight memes. What'd you have? Anything good? Turkey stuffing. That's it. That's it. Did you guys do you guys do a sausage in your stuffing? Because I do. It's awesome. My mom makes the best stuffing. Really? How many people in America do you think say that? How many people are in America? Did you guys see the viral tweet that was so funny? It's like my grandma's in Shaq Celtics era of cooking. It was like, had like 50,000 retweets. It was sad.

When it goes, it goes. All right. Yeah. No, I want to talk about the Giants real quick because we always, that I'd say oh the Bears and the Jets are similar. The Bears and the Giants are the similarity because outside of the obviously two Super Bowls which changed everything. The Giants are in the same situation where they have an idiot fail son running an organization into the ground. Last 10 years they've been to the playoffs twice. They've won one playoff game. They've had I think three three winning seasons out of the last 14. They've won their 78 and 128 and I think reading the like seeing what Giants fans are

saying it's like the same frustration where it's you switch out coaches you switch out John Maris the one who's calling the shots and he's gonna keep fucking things up. And every quarterback that they've had recently seems to play exactly the same too. They look identical when they're out there on the field. Yeah, so I feel like I have one guy to fix the Giants. It's Bill Belichick. I like that.

I mean, he loves history, he loves NFL history, where he started everything, and not where he actually started, loves history. He loves NFL history, where, you know, he started everything and not where he actually started. I think he started with the Lions, but where, you know, defensive coordinator for Lawrence Taylor and everything, a founding organization, he goes in and he just runs the whole show. I feel like I feel like that could happen. I think their legacy, this most recent mirror legacy might be. And he would probably like to get the record with a giant. So yeah, I was just gonna say, I think that his legacy might be ending any semblance of anything interesting ever happening

on hard knocks again. Yeah, that might be it. Because the sake one thing, yeah, no team is going to want to put out film of their GM fucking something up so, so terribly that it'll just be a stain on the franchise forever. It's really get anything good from hard knocks. No, and it's really a shocking clip. I rewatch it every now and then. Yeah. I'm just like, holy shit. But it really said it. They have had the most hilarious like 18 year run as a franchise. Yeah. Because I mean, yeah, obviously you trade it all for the two super bowls, especially over Patriots and John Brady. That's where they deviate from the Jets and the Bears.

But in terms of the last decade, they have been horrendously, horrendously bad. And they just, they don't put together winning seasons. They have no continuity. They fire coaches, they fire GMs, and it's because they've got an idiot son running the whole organization. That's what happens. Find someone else. Also where this is where the Jets like as bad as what he Johnson is, he actually goes for it. He's an idiot of a different kind. He, but he didn't inherit the team. I think he's got some idiot family members too. Yeah, he does,

but he didn't inherit the team and be like, I'm just going to be an idiot. Uh, he is the idiot. Woody Johnson's he is the idiot, but he, he tries really hard. Whereas like the Marys and the McCaskys in the last decade, again, I have to qualify because they obviously giants one, they just are like, we own an NFL team. This is sick. We're just going to print money and, and do things the right way and hope it works. I think the giants and the bears are similar in that they care. They both care very, very deeply about running a classy organization. And they, that's what the, that's what winning is to them.

We run a classy organization. Virginia McCasky didn't let swear words. We have the hard knocks. We have a lot of dark stained wood. Right? Yeah. Every everything in our house smells like a football. Yeah. That's what they want. Ties. We're all wearing ties all the time. Yeah. Books of football lore in our, you know, 10,000 square foot studies and we can't run a team, but we love football. Yeah. And the history of the game and the, and the meetings and all that stuff. They love that shit. Not the actual game. Uh, okay. Yeah. The Cow history of the game. And the meetings and all that stuff, they love that

shit, not the actual game. Okay. Yeah, the Cowboys, I do think Mike McCarthy has saved the show. I don't think the Giants are going to win another game, by the way. It might not. Especially Dexter Lawrence, I think, out for the season. Yeah, I believe so. They might not. And I don't know if they're going to go back to Tommy DeVito. It doesn't really matter. No. I like Tracy the running back. He's not bad. Yeah. And they are now 11 games without an interception. So that's quite something. Yep. Uh, all right. Packers 30 dolphin 17. I mean, this was the most obvious game ever. Mike McDaniel was shivering on the sideline. He was all bundled up to

he was shivering on the sideline. It was, it was a bad scene. And then to it did not rewrite the narratives. No, he still hasn't won a game under 40 degrees, I believe. Yeah. And I mean, they made a valiant comeback late. It was like, Hey, maybe if they score, they got stopped at the goal line. But the, the stat that there's two stats that are like, when everyone's like, Hey, you can't just say candy ass uniforms. Dolphins can't win in the cold. I have two stats for you that show you you absolutely can. The first one is the dolphins had 20 missed tackles

to give up 132 extra yards. That's a cold weather stat. That's a I don't wanna get my nose into the pile, I don't wanna tackle anyone. And the second stat is Mike McDaniel was literally shivering on the side. He was so cold. He was so cold.

He looked like the kid from the Christmas story. All bundled up, he couldn't move his extremity. If he had to challenge a call, I don't think he'd be able to find the flag. Yeah, they didn't even wear their most candy ass uniforms either. No. They wore the old school dolphin with a helmet, which is that's breaking all the glass in case of emergency for the dolphins to look as tough as possible. They should make one of those where the dolphin's wearing a helmet with the guardian cap on. Yeah, that would rock too. Yeah. But yeah, it doesn't look like, I mean, they had to win this one if they wanted some hope. They did not. Yeah. Now they can play spoiler. They can play spoiler. I think they still technically they need, they need, uh, the Broncos to start losing. Yeah. Colts and the

dolphins need the Broncos to start losing to have a chance. But yeah, that was it to get back to 500 and the Packers. I'm officially very, very nervous that this Thursday night football game against the lions, the Packers win this game. I'm already on the Packers look incredible. Uh, cause Jordan loved hasn't thrown interception last two weeks. Josh Jacobs, their running game. I tried to tell myself that that was a waste of money and it is not cause he is really fucking good. They have become what the 49ers were in the past. Watching them run the football is, it's interesting. It's entertaining. I like doing it. I'm worried. I'm officially worried about the Packers. By the way, here's a fun stat. The

Lions, the Packers and the Vikings are 27 in three against all teams, not themselves. are 27 and three against all teams, not themselves. So they all have lost a single game against a non-NFC North team. It's pretty crazy. 27 and three, they're all really, really fucking good. Yeah, I'm looking at the AFC picture right now. It's gonna be- You couldn't beat all three.

It's gonna be tough. What? Yeah. You guys couldn't beat all three? Yeah, we could've. We actually very much could've. We're right there. Oh, we're right there. That's what they're fucking telling us. It's gonna be tough. Yeah, it's gonna be all three. Yeah, we could have we actually very much could have we're right there Oh, we're right there That's what they're fucking telling it's gonna be tough. They need the they need the Colts and the Broncos to start losing Yeah, that's exactly what it is and they need them to lose fast

Yeah, but yeah, the Packers are really good that there's a football game. This Packers Lions game is gonna be That's that is that's cuz if the Packers win this game That's that is that's because if the Packers win this game the they could win the North. Yeah oh easily. Like that's that's it's not ruling it out and because I think they still have a game against the Vikings left that if they if they beat the Vikings that would obviously put the Vikings with another loss. I mean it's going to be crazy watching this like if the if the Packers win this game They're looking at hey, we could win the north and if they lose this game there. They're basically like alright We're on we're a road team on on wild card weekend Yeah, they're the Packers are nine and three and the Vikings are right there ten and two and eleven one

This is this is gonna tell everything is you tell everything max you're the biggest Packers fan on earth on Thursday night Yeah, I was a huge Bears fan this week, last weekend too. I know. Sorry we let you down. Yeah. Who do the Lions have left? Do they have any hard games left? Besides obviously playing the Vikings and the, I guess, I mean, playing the Bears outside. Who knows? Thomas Brown might get the boys going.

So, if that were to happen, if the Lions were to lose to the Packers and the Niners and fall to the first wild card, what would that mean for the first round matchup? They would probably, they might go to Atlanta. The Packers? No, the Lions, if the Lions fell back. Oh yeah, yeah. If the Packers ended up winning the north or the Vikings won the north Yeah, yeah, they could travel to Atlanta just beat the fuck out of it's just crazy because the Lions have been so good and they are so good but because the Vikings and the Packers are also so good a

Division that they could have ran away with is still very much up for grabs Really depending on Thursday night football if the Lions grabs really depending on Thursday night football. If the Lions win the game on Thursday night football it's almost a wrap because they do. They have already beaten the Vikings and they play the Vikings at home. So that that kind of seals it but if they lose that game it's way up for grabs. Yep. It's crazy. All right. Yeah. The Packers are really good. I'm scared. I'm very very scared. All right. Yeah, the Packers are really good. I'm scared. I'm very, very scared. All right. Last game that we're going to talk about from Thursday and Friday, chiefs and Raiders chiefs 19 Raiders 17 PFD. You should have put it as your pick. I should have put it as my pick, but I didn't, I didn't give it out as my pick. I gave money line. It's a missed bet. I have

to put my hand up and say bad bet. The chiefs are, that was the most chief scheme ever. They, they, at the start of the game look like they were going to kill the Raiders. The Raiders come back. Aidan O'Connell. Shout out. Not bad. Ballsy. Max Crosby was doing his Max Crosby thing where he just he he has to piss off Patrick Holmes more than any player on earth. Oh yeah. Because he was doing like little extra jabs here and there. Patrick Holmes is complaining to the refs. And then we had the last play which for all the conspiracy theorists out there, it was just red meat. Well, I want to go back to the drive before that last drive. Yeah. Yeah. So Antonio Pierce, he had the ball in plus

territory. The Raiders down by one point, three minutes left on the clock. Let me ask you a question, Paquette. If you give the ball, would you want to give the ball back to Patrick Mahomes when Patrick Mahomes had a lead? I would not. With three minutes left? I would not. All right, so Antonio Pierce did, and he sent his punt team out there,

and then somebody on the sidelines was like, hey, Antonio Pierce, just reminded, that's Patrick Mahomes on the opposite sideline. Might not wanna do that. So he did my favorite move in all sports, which is he called the think it over timeout to think it over. And his decision coming out of that timeout was to send his kicker out there who had missed two field goals of 55 and over yards, I believe to try a 58 yard field goal. Chalker actually landed

short of the upright. So then you give the ball back to Patrick Mahomes with three minutes left and actually you get the ball back after that. But it was just an insane decision. I don't know what his decision tree was on that. I don't know what he was thinking. He doesn't really think it ended up working out for him. So I guess I'm the idiot, but they got the ball back, drive down the field and then we get to the point where it's here come the refs. Yeah. Because the final play where the chiefs get a fumble, there is a ref that runs on the field that calls it a false start. Did he call it a false start? So there's some discussion going on. Yeah. The Raiders are claiming that some people on the field heard a whistle. Yeah. I don't know if I heard a whistle or not, but it was an illegal shift that they ended

up calling after they got together to talk about it. But the ref coming in from the sideline was, it looked like he was calling a false start, I believe. So, and then he changed it to a legal shift, which then made it so that the place stood and the fumble counted. Yes. So I guess it could have been thrown as a false start. And then after the fact, he was like, let's just make this illegal shift.

Cause I'm not sure if it, if they were going sideways or forward, the bottom line is, uh, yeah, the chiefs, I get why they use the meme now. Yeah. This game flipped it for me. I get it. I get it. You guys lost this game. You win. I can't, I'm done fighting against it. The Chiefs, your fans, your team, your whole city, whatever you're doing, I want a part of that. You guys are doing the right thing because they are 11-1. They have the worst point differential of any 11-1 team in history. 10 consecutive playoff bursts. You know what second worst is? Who?

It's the 1976 Raiders. They won the Superbowl. Yeah. I don't think the Chiefs are going to win the Superbowl this year. And I say that with caution because it is still Patrick Holmes, but their offensive line and I know they got TJ Humphries who's still working back from ACL. Their offensive line is bad. They moved, they moved, they shifted it in the middle of the game. They're like, we can't figure this out. I think they put Tuni at left tackle. Uh, their offensive line is bad. Their secondary has not been good. It feels like they're just holding on. And if they go up against a team with a really good pass rush, it's going to be very hard for the chiefs.

Now it's still patch from home. So I say this with a lot of caution because he'll probably just end up winning the game and we'll be like, how the fuck did they do this? Uh, but it does feel a little bit different in that, like it feels more 2019 chiefs who went to the super bowl, uh, the COVID year or no, was it 20, 20 was just before COVID. It was 2020 in Miami. They won that Super Bowl. Then they won and then COVID hit. Yeah, so it was the 2020 season where they played the Bucs and Patrick Mahomes had no time in the Super Bowl and the Bucs were all over them. And so they still might go to the

Super Bowl. So we don't want to say that Patrick Mahomes won't win a Super Bowl. We don't want to. We're fighting against it with every fiber of our being. The chiefs are, are making us believe that you guys are doing it to yourselves. I think chiefs fans though, know that this feels a little different than last year where it was like, okay, they're kind of fucking around but they still have the fundamentals here of like a team that can win a Superbowl and they obviously still can. But this one feels like I don't, I mean, Patrick Mahomes went 113 games without a five sack game. He's now been sacked five times by the Panthers last week and then the Raiders five times this week. Yeah. So two in a row and they could get, you know, like I said, they, they made a signing, they could

get healthier. Uh, but as it stands right now, I don't feel super optimistic and they also are going to be in a fight with for the one seat. Yeah. Did you hear Al Michaels kind of shitting on streaming? What are you doing in the game? I think they missed the punt. We missed a whole lot. We missed a punt. We missed a play that'll, that'll be lost to, uh, to history. Nobody saw it happen. Who knows what happened and what they were, the crisis actors at the game were told to say afterwards, but Al Michaels was like, Yeah, they wouldn't do that on linear, but they'll do that to us on streaming. And then he just kind of proceeded to take a shit on Amazon. I love Al Michaels and his I don't give a fuck. Yes, it's pretty good. Yes, but he does not care.

He'll just say whatever I also Black Friday game. I don't even know. Does Al Michaels like what does he eat on Thanksgiving to see steak just steak Yes, steak for sure. I wanted to say I saw this funny tweeted. I wanted to shout out from stats guy Daniel He said Steelers chiefs on Christmas Day is just gonna be 57 minutes of both teams doing everything possible to keep it a one-score game Before Mike Tomlin and Patrick Holmes reveal who negotiated the better deal with the devil to win in the most unthinkable way possible. Nailed it. Nailed it. That's what they do. Uh, the Raiders. Why, by the way, did we get a Shador Sanders tweet? Oh, he was, he was playing in a game. Yeah, we did not. He was playing in a game. What happened? So I, I don't, let's see. Did he do it on Thanksgiving after the

Giants lost? I don't know. I did not check up on that. I know that I did check on it for, uh, for Friday. How did his game go on Friday? He played pretty well. He had three touchdown passes to this really outstanding receiver. What's his name? Number 12, whatever that is. Can someone look up number 12 for us? Shadour Sanders has tweeted, thank you God, an hour ago. Oh, so it's's the Sunday. He did it an hour ago Sunday Travis Hunter is the name Travis Hunter I thought he played cornerback. He does yeah, look at it again, and he scored three touchdown passes Do you have an interception to what? Damn, we gotta look up this guy. We should probably do some research for him. Oh, is that the guy that did the Heisman pose twice?

Oh, I was what is the Heisman pose? I think they kept doing it. They kept talking about it. Like if you're good enough to win the Heisman, you do it. I don't know. I w we'll, you know what today, WLs we're going to look up this Travis Hunter guy. We'll give you a report on Wednesday. Yeah. I just thought it was an interesting pose. I was like, that's if that's a trophy, that's it must be a pretty prestigious trophy because that's a cool pose. Uh, yeah, I don't, the chiefs just, that was the most chiefs way for them to win the game. Just so classically chiefs. I feel like there's money line. Yeah. Yeah. Look at egg space. You knew he had Raiders money line. Oh, I did too. Oh, I'm sorry, Hank. That was tough,

but it was so chiefs. It's the Patriots deal with the devil. Were you guys to win games like this? There's been like 20 of them this year. This year feels crazy. Yeah. So we're like, I feel like going against the rest of the chiefs have the ref in their pocket. I can't, I don't know specifically. You had the tuck rule. I did see one person was like, the Patriots never had this deal with the devil and then someone just quoted it with the miles Jack play. Yeah. That one or D Ford offsides. Yeah. That was off. But okay. So Jack one I do. I do say the deal with the devil and like you know it's crazy to keep getting away with it. But the actual reality of it is, the Chiefs make winning plays at winning time. And like, they're a team that will never get blown out

and they will always be in that spot where if you make a mistake, they'll capitalize on it. So it's like, it's a combo of yes, it looks like luck, but I also think it's just, they're really fucking good. And if you fuck up at all, they'll just jump on you and win the game Yeah, but you know I'm saying they they are almost daring us to doubt them. Yeah, you're doing you're doing all that you can I don't Know the way that they yeah, they can get like amped up is to have all the doubters

I don't want to do it, but you're you're making me starting to think about doing it. I'm starting and I don't want to By the way, Max Crosby, 387 consecutive snaps, uh, which I think that's most since 2016. He just does it every, every year. He just rips off another consecutive snaps record. Yeah. It's nuts. It's nuts. Uh, all right. Should we take a break and we'll go to, Oh yeah. Raiders fans. Brock Bowers is awesome. True. He's so fucking good. That's cool. They have him and AOC didn't look bad either. No, he didn't look bad. Wonder. I don't know if they'll win another game, but it's like you. He does look a little bit like me. I was gonna say he looks a little bit

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We have Steelers 44, Bengals 38. I think the Bengals officially are done. Well, they got to take the ping pong table out now. They got to take the ping pong table out now. They got to take the ping pong table out. Mike Tomlin is now secured above 500 for his 18th consecutive season. So he's not had a losing record. There's probably, there was maybe a 500 record in there. 18 straight seasons. He has not been under 500 as an NFL coach. That is insane. And I'll say this, the Steelers, I was impressed with them because I was searching around for the F word for the Steelers. I did not think they could win in a shootout. That's exactly what they did. Russell Wilson

was awesome throwing for over 400 yards. Their defense made a couple huge plays, big turnovers. Yeah, the Steelers, that was big. That was a big win. Yeah, huge. Russell Wilson looked awesome. Najee Harris looks light. He's, he's week to week. Yeah. No, he looks around the football. Yeah. That was a big part of the game is they got him going. They got him going. The screen game and running. Yeah. So, uh, do you remember early in the game when he pulled up a little bit and everybody thought his hamstring was fucked up? Yep. All right. So they asked him about that and he said, thanksgiving.

He said Pat Friar Muth's girlfriend Jill made some fire ass banana something. And I guess he overindulged a little bit. Did nausea here shit himself in the first quarter? I think that's what that means. Right? I think you're right. I think nausea here has pooped himself when he ran. That's why he pulled up like his hamstring was hurt. When he grabbed it at the back of his leg, he grabbing his butthole yeah because he's pooping on himself but he looked awesome today yeah he looked really good now it was against the Bengals defense and the Bengals defense might have gotten worse out of the by yeah that was possible so the Bengals are 2 & 4 when they score

over 30 points the rest of the league is 75 & 3 yeah no yeah when it comes to 33 points the Bengals have four losses every other team in the league is 75 and 3. Yeah, no Yeah, and it comes to 33 points the Bengals have four losses Every other team in the league has one loss Yeah, this might be the end of the Bengals dynasty the Bengals defense has given up 34 or more points six times this year That's insane. Yeah six times. We should say they have a 3% chance at making the playoffs I percent there and they've converted from being a we have to run the table in terms of wins now They're saying every drive is a must score drive Our chase was like we I think we could we need to score on every single drive from now on because our defense can't stop anybody

If they score a touchdown on every drive, I think they would make the playoffs at this point I don't know what they would they would you don't think so? No, cause they all the other teams have to lose. No, they need to score on every drive, but also the other teams have to not score on every drive. Yeah, they don't, they don't control their own destiny. Like they can't say, Hey, if we score on every drive, we're good. Yeah. They gotta be like, Hey, we got to score on every drive. And also the Colts have to never score again. The dolphins have to never score again. The Broncos have to never score again. It's pretty bad.

It's everyone. They got no chance. It's over. And this has to be one of the most frustrating seasons for a fan base because if I told you in August that we would be sitting here on the week of Thanksgiving and Joe Burrow would have 30 touchdowns, five interceptions, and 3,300 yards in 12 games with a 68% completion percentage. You'd be like the Bengals are vying for the one. And how many interceptions is that?

Five. Five. And at least two or three of those are on badly deflected passes off the hands of his own receiver. Yeah. Now he does have fumbles too. He had two fumbles in this game that was bad, but still Joe Burrow has played statistically his best season and you've completely wasted it because your defense fell off a cliff and your owner is a cheap ass. Are we in a zone where it might be so bad, their defense might be so bad that maybe Joe

Burrow MVP is back on a little bit. I mean, I put a little on him offensive player of the year because I made the bet thinking Saquon might win MVP and then they'll give offensive player of the year to the best quarterback. Yeah. And he's been the best quarterback, his team stinks. And if a running back wins MVP, then they wouldn't necessarily have to give offensive player of the year to just the best quarterback on the best team. I think I got it like 90 to one or something. No, that can't be

right. Yeah, but either way, Joe Burroughs has been awesome and you've completely wasted a year of Joe Burroughs prime. And like that's, that would kill me as a fan. And T Higgins last year. Yeah. Yoshi looks pretty good though. Yeah. But still like 90 to one couple of years ago you thought that this team was set up your windows open that window. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry about your window. Yeah. That was bad. That was bad. So yeah the Bengals are dead. I'm done. I'm done thinking about them. I'm done. I mean they're still fun watch. Yes they play inouts. But like this game was not an AFC North game at all with the way the first half went. And again, I think the

Steelers like winning in this style. I did not think they had it in them. Maybe George Pickens was right. It was the snow that made them bad against the Browns and George Pickens, by the way, back. He did it all. He did it all. He got, he got flagged for unsportsmanlike for simulating a gun, but he claims and we can watch the tape. He claims he was signaling first down after he got her first down. Got it. Now he did pull a trigger at the end of the first down, which you have to do, which you have to do. I mean, who's to say that that was a gun. You just pull the trigger on the first down. He scored a touchdown, had a bunch of really good, uh, plays, got

a shot of fake gun, threw a ball in a player's, in an opponent's face and then punted a ball into the, after scoring his touchdown. He did it all. He did it all. It was great. I love that guy. And, and Tomlin said after he's like, George has to grow up. No, I don't know. No, just let George be George. They did have a moment where Tomlin like got into his face on the sidelines a little bit. I don't know what Tomlin could be saying to George Pickens that he hasn't already said probably like 40 to 50 times already. But yeah, Tomlin, Tomlin likes having a little bit of chaos on his team. You can tell he gets off on it. Tomlin has quickly become one of my favorite coaches because he just feels like even the

videos after in the locker room where he's dancing with like Najee Harris, he's the best guy ever. And you get why he can handle like having an Antonio Brown or a, you know, George Pickens or Ben Roethlisberger on your, on his team. Cause he's just stable and he's like, he's just down with the, down with the dudes. And he's like, uh, like I'll be here for you no matter what. Like George Pickens on any other team, I feel like is not as good and maybe like fails and, and has happened. That's bad. But on the Steelers, he's still crazy, but Tomlin knows how to harness the crazy. So what's the difference between the bears, the giants and the Steelers? Because the Steelers have that like old schoolschool family. Yeah. Yeah, we're a classy organization thing

But they're just really smart. They're really good Yeah, and they get coaches and they don't and they keep them and also they've had quarterbacks Well, they get good coaches. They've been Rothenburg because that was a big thing. Yeah, you could also say like, okay It probably wouldn't be the best thing for the Bears to keep a lot of the coaches and corrects, correct But Ben Rothenburg would probably be the big one and then obviously their defense I feel like maybe it's also the jerseys the jerk the town they put on the jerseys their defense is just good the towels too like you if you did a video game you put on the Steelers you know Jersey and it's just plus five points to

defense what do you think the score of the game would have been on on the Thanksgiving night game if the Packers and the Dolphins had just changed jerseys? It would have been a one score. It would have been a I think the Packers still win Packers win by three. Now I think the Packers might lose actually. They might lose. Imagine Jordan love and a dolphin. And you maybe gave a coat to Mike McDaniel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Russ though. I was very wrong about Russ. I thought he was cooked. 414 yards, three touchdowns. His third 400 yard game in his career. I would never have guessed that he had a 400 yard game still left in him. Yeah.

But he does. They're winning shootouts. Winning shootouts. That's what I said. The Steelers winning this game, the style they won this game. I'm like, all right, I was wrong. Like Steelers are not frauds. And I, they still have a tough schedule down the stretch, but yeah, with their defense gets a little healthy. They just got dudes everywhere. And even though their defense got lit up a little bit, I mean, the Bengals do that to

anyone. They still made the big plays when they had to. We're going to get some good quotes from Jamar Chase as the season concludes. Yeah. I feel like he's he does not give a fuck. He's just gonna say whatever's on his mind. I feel bad for Joe Burrow. It's not I mean just you just wasted you can't waste these seasons when you have a quarterback

like Joe Burrow. Yep. You can't. Okay, next game Chargers 17 Falcons 13. This is one of those games where the Chargers were lucky to win because their offense couldn't do anything and the Falcons, you've got a problem and he's a friend of the show, but Kirk Cousins has been bad the last three weeks and he threw four interceptions today. It's some really, really bad picks too.

The one really in zone, the pick six was bad too. I mean, it was about as bad as a four-pick day can be My theory is that it's like James Harden when he would play in cities that had really good strip clubs Yeah, he had always played poorly Kirk Cousins does the same when very popular iconic musicals come out in theaters mmm, and so he's been up all night singing along and Not focused on his playbook. Yeah, I don't know if there's anything to that, but he looked bad today. He looked bad. Uh, the, the pick six was really bad. And then the end zone interception was really, really bad. And it was the, the really, the, the hard part for the Falcons is the Falcons defense has not shown up in like a lot of

games. They did today. They, so the Falcons defense has had five sacks total in the last six games. They had five today. They were, they, they didn't let the chargers do anything. The charge had 187 total yards. The Falcons had a 24 first down. So the chargers 10 and they should have like the Falcons kept on going into the red zone, not getting anything out of it, missing field goals, interceptions. That's a game that you're going to look and be like, how do we lose that game? Cause they should have won that game. The chargers offense couldn't do anything and you sack Justin Herbert five times and man, you Kirk cousins. That was, that was a tough one. It was a very tough one. So they've got the, the Vikings, but then they've got some winnable games after that too for the Falcons

Yeah, so Hank. Thank you for sending a reminder to remind us to bet against the Falcons in the playoffs. Mm-hmm I feel very very confident about that Crystal ball pick. Yeah, I think it's gonna work out. They just don't look like a good team. No No, they've lost three in a row now Basically, they just need to play the B the box for their offense to look good. Yep Hank sorry about your chargers to not make the playoffs Ben did not make that but because it looks like they're gonna make the playoffs. Yeah, they're eight and four So so are the commanders? Yeah, we'll get to that great. We'll get to that

Yeah, like I feel like if you're a charger if you're the Chargers and your charge van You you go go off a short week against, you know, an emotional game on Monday night against the Ravens. However you win, don't apologize for the win. But they their offensive line looks like it needs some help. And JK Dobbins being out hurts them a lot because they do want to run the ball and they haven't been able to. Yeah, their offense was not good at all today. I think most charges fans would say that was like a painful. Thank God. We won this right exactly It just walk away be like thank God we won in the Falcons. You wasted a really good defensive effort

Yeah Kirk Do they do they make the switch? People are asking hmm People are asking is it time for Pennex? And then what do you do with Kirk Cousins? He's got zero touchdowns in six interceptions the last six games and especially three games salary fully guaranteed for at least next year, right? Mmm, I mean there's there's one team I could think of that would be a perfect fit for Kirk Cousins Who's that? You the man is shaking his head. No, no right now. I mean think about it picture it. Yeah, I could I could see it Cousins I could see it Kirk Cousins to the Jets. Yeah. Yeah. I could see it. No.

Why not? We already got one guy with the torn Achilles. Yeah true. System. I would, yeah I would take a shot on Kirk. Ah shout out Tarheem still, by the way, because he had two picks. He had the pick six, another pick and then he also broke up that pass on the last drive to Drake London that kind of sealed the game. Yeah. So he was awesome. But yeah, Chargers, good job. High fives everywhere, everywhere around. You want a tough game and now you're looking like you're going to be in the playoffs. Yeah. Okay. Vikings 23 Cardinals 22. This is another one where don't apologize for wins

because the Vikings looked bad for three quarters. They had a hundred yards of offense late in the third quarter and then Sam Darnold happened and he was awesome down the stretch led them on to two touchdown drives they were down 19 six with 443 left in the third quarter he was 12 for 17 156 yards and two touchdowns for the rest of the game so he won them that game this is what I love about Kevin O'Connell is he gets quarterbacks that have in their past look like they they're timid they're slow to process they don't trust themselves they're slow to process, they don't trust themselves, they're not confident, and when they play for him they just look like everything's fast. Yeah. Like they know exactly what to do and it could be a backup quarterback like Dobbs,

it could be Darnold, it could be anybody, it could be Kirk Cousins, but they look like just a way more confident version of themselves all the time and he must be an awesome guy, which is why probably Daniel Jones wants to go out there and just be like, Hey, just tell me I'm pretty. Yeah. Make me feel good about myself for a little bit. Uh, cause I'm, I'm gun shy about everything else. I do think that there is, there was an insane coaching decision in this. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Where, where Gannon kicked that field goal, I think from the four yard line. Yeah. He was up three, right? And it was up three with four yard line from the four yard line, kicked a field goal to make it six points. I feel like every time that happens, the other team wins six points is the worst lead in football. I agree because

you do you basically like if you're up three, you, you, you're going to call offense a little differently and you're not going to, you know, you're going to play for the field goal, be a little more conservative. If you're up six, you're basically saying to the other team, you have to go score a touchdown. And that's exactly what the Vikings did. If you're up six, you might as well be tied and it's overtime. Right. And if you, if you go for the touchdown there and get it, you are winning the game. You're up two scores. You've won the game. By the way, if you're up one and you kick the field goal, I like it. Yeah. I like that a lot. Yeah. Two. I like that a lot. If you're up three, I don't like it. No, because it's like you, I mean,

you're just, you didn't change anything really. Yeah. The other team is just going to go even harder. The urgency is going to be there. Kevin O'Connell. They have every fourth down now. Uh, sad hole sports point of the South. Kevin O'Connell is now 24 and 10 in one score games. 24 and 10. Pretty good coach. That is really good coach. Yeah. Yeah. No, Kevin O'Connell is a very good coach and Yeah, the Vikings like I that was Sam Darin Sam Darin won that game He was oh and 23 in games when he was trailing by 13 plus points until today I also like their strategy of when teams take away Justin Jefferson just hitting up Jordan Addison all the time

Yeah, and then teams like fuck we can't let Jordan Addison beat us. And then they have Justin Jefferson. He had just Jefferson makes a big catch in fourth quarter. He was by the way, Justin Jefferson was the fourth player all time to have a thousand yards in his first five seasons. Pretty impressive. He's really fucking good. Yep. And yeah, this was a game where it felt like the Vikings were going to lose the whole game because they couldn't do anything offensively. Their defense played well, bend don't break. The Cardinals essentially, all they had to do was convert one of those red zone trips into a touchdown instead of kicking all these field goals and they win this game.

And now they're looking at it and be like, we've lost two straight and the Seahawks winning. Seahawks now have a game lead in the NFC West. If you, that was a missed opportunity, just like the Falcons, there's a missed opportunity for the cart. That one, that crazy field goal too, like best case scenario, you go up six points and you also give them like 20, 20 yards of extra field position. Correct. Correct. I agree. I wrote it down as well. I was like, this is sick. A six point lead is the worst lead to having football. Yeah. What six point lead would be the worst? I feel like 14 to 20 is pretty bad.

Yeah. Because then you see the 21, 20, 21, 20, you know, it's going to be 21, 16, 10. That's pretty bad as well. 16 to actually, you're right. Yeah. 16, 10. That is the worst cause you just can see it. You're like, Oh, they're just going to score a touchdown. They're going to have 17, 13, 17, two. I feel like it's more common. Yeah. 13, seven as well. Yeah. Those are bad leads 19. What was it? 1913. That one was meh. I'd rather I'd rather be losing 19. No, no, no, no. Sorry. This was 13. You got some cushion. Yeah. That's a big one. That's sort of 22 6 16. They were up 19 6 and then it became 22 60 is not bad. Yeah, that one I actually.

Yeah, now that we're talking it out, I actually kind of agree with the field goal. To go from 19 to 16 to 22 16, you feel like you won the game. Yeah, 20 25 to 31. That's a pretty big lead to. Yeah, no, 24 to 30 kind of like, yeah, 24 to 30. I think any time you're going to. I think I think Jonathan Gannon might be vindicated. I can understand why he got tripped up.

You look at the score in 1916, you're kicking a field goal every time to go up 22-16. You're like, that doesn't make sense. Touchdown doesn't get to 23. Oh shit, yeah it does. In fact, it does. But you could easily make that mistake. What about 18 to 12? No, that's just, that's just, you're just in a funky,

that's just so many field goals. It's just a year. You're just like, they're gonna kick another field goal cause that's all we've been doing. I think the Steelers beat the Falcons 18 to 12 this week one. Things have changed. That's weird if I, if that's, that's-

Oh, is that, that was all the field goals? Yeah, field goals Yeah, that's like you've been watching too much football Maybe go outside for a little bit if I'm thinking about that feels like a Falcons Steelers score doesn't yeah, it does Yeah, I the Cardinals they're gonna kick themselves not having this game and the Vikings. I mean Sam Darnold I was impressed Sam Darnold they Sam D Darnell won him this the defense again bent don't break but like they were stuck in the mud and Sam Darnell and Aaron Jones fumbles they put him in the doghouse and he makes the big touchdown catch Vikings are Vikings are good the NFC North is fucking it's a dogfight yeah it's a dogfight okay next game talk fight. Okay. Next game. Talk about an ass kicking PFT. You're back 42 commanders, 42 Titans, 19, that was an ass kick. It was a get right. It was get right. We got right.

I actually think that was, um, if you had to script a realistic worst way to start a game, the Titans did it. Yeah. 21 nothing in the first quarter. And it was almost 28 nothing in the first quarter too. Yeah. I just, everything went0 in the first quarter and it was almost 28-0 in the first quarter too. Yeah. Just everything went poorly for the Titans. And the Titans, believe it or not, did have the second best total defense of any team in the NFL going in this game. Now yes, a lot of that was because their special teams are so bad that a lot of opponents get

short field position on them. Yeah. So they don't give up a lot of yards sometimes when they're just fumbling like crazy on punt returns and shit. But yeah, it was, it just took care of business. And the haters out there, they said that we couldn't make the playoffs. The haters are furious. The haters can't believe that they would ever make such a dumb bet. And that was, that was the goal for the commanders this entire season. Just make the playoffs. That's our super bowl. Yeah. And we took one step closer to that. 83% likelihood to make the playoffs now they go had to have it had

to have it now we're going to buy I hate the late buys so it's way too late to have a bye but more importantly Jayden Daniels proved that he can win in cold weather because I don't think he's ever played a game that was 41 degrees of kickoff oh and he did he did the same thing that he does in every game which he just stand there smiling with his hands in his pockets. I was like athletic bin man Where did you get that 80% from? 83% chance to make the playoffs on the internet. I'm seeing 70% have they updated it with the results of today's games Yes, I updated it and I saw

Can you see this computer screen? Yeah? Says 70 yeah go to a different way and I saw... Can you guys see this computer screen? Yeah. It says 70. Yeah, go to a different website. It's basically 83. Go to a different website because I don't think your website's good, Max. What? This is an NFL.

I think you got a bad, I don't think that they've updated it with all the results yet. The NFL? Have they updated it with all the results, Max? Yes. By the way, the Titans... Maybe your 83% was before the results were updated.

No, no, it was post. The Titans start was punt, punt, fumble, fumble, 11 penalties in the first half. And before they ran their ninth or their 10th offensive snap, it was 28-0. Yeah. 10th offensive snap was 28-0. Yeah. And, hey, Cliff Kingsbury, I don't know if you listened to the pod or you just listened to literally everybody else,

but very first play of the game, he put Terry McLaurin on the right side of the field. Yeah. Which he's never done this year. And he ran the ball. And he ran the ball. He ran the ball. The 39 carries for 246 yards. The big question though is... I'm looking at 85% now.

Oh, it just went up in the last two minutes? Yeah. On what website? Maybe because the... the Niners are losing. Could be. PFT's on Microsoft Paint right now. Yeah, I just making my own graphic. Right here. Look at this. He was just typing it. He was just drawing his own. 85% 2% soupy. Whoa. I'm liking that. I'm not thinking soupy though. I'm not Max. All along- You literally just said soupy.

By saying the word soupy, that you were thinking about the word soupy. You literally spent Thanksgiving thinking about soupy. I made a soupy. Yeah. Max, are you worried? No. I can read Max a little bit.

The commanders looked awesome. I can read Max a little bit. You were the fucking thing. Okay. But they looked awesome. You were you struggle with the Ravens. You're pretty hard. That's basically the same thing. I thought that Max was rooting for the Bucks today because he would rather play the Bucks in the playoffs. No they lose the Bucks. Yeah. We get smoked by the Bucks. They've lost their last like a million games to the Bucks they lose the bucks both now and historically Yeah, I'm just looking forward to our our game coming up on December 22nd max. I'm hoping that gets flex a Monday night. I Feel you could I would I will be there no matter what how are you guys Hank and PFT?

We're great. Yeah, we haven't discussed anything. Do you want to discuss? I don't want to talk to Hank right now No, I mean I said I picked the Titans today and I admitted that I let PFTs Hatred and meanness and ugliness towards me cloud my judgment. Oh his hate turned into now your my judgment. Oh, his hate turned into hate. I'm rent free. And I, yeah, I, I admit it and, and it was a good bounce back. The, the commander showed me a lot. That's probably a bad bet. And that's it. It was never personal. So I don't know why it's gotta be. How, how, how happy would you have been if the Titans won this game? That would have been quite some potting. Yeah, I would have been pretty happy. I mean there's three teams that are a game back in the lost column Yeah, but 85% so walk

Stop it Hank 85% Hank and I uh, yeah, we're at each other's throats. Don't talk he wishes nothing but the worst for me That's not true. I root for Hank. I got the commander's Super Bowl future. I appreciate that. Hang. You're good. Yeah. You're eight and five in the bucks. Oh, maybe the Cardinals and Rams are six and six. Is that what it was? Here's looking at the commander's record. Yeah. So if the bucks Cardinals and Rams won next week, they would all be one game out. That would be, that would be bad. You got to root against that. It would be bad. You got to root against that hard. It says, yeah, it says right here, 85%. At the saints. You, your schedules.

It's not bad. No, it's, it basically, it might come down to what type of Cowboys team's going. It might come down to the Cowboys and might come down to Kirk Cousins revenge game. Yeah. Or Michael Pennex. Or Michael Pennex revenge game. Yeah. For not drafting.

Yeah. All right, well I'm happy that you guys are back together kind of. Yeah, the offense looked really good today. And our defense looked good. What Hank? Yeah, the offense looked good. The offense looked good.

Say something nice about the commanders. They look great. Jamie Jane Daniels play great. I also rookie of the week. I also let it cloud my fantasy. I bench them on fantasy too. And I was regret. Oh no, this is a great subplot that you were in PFT head and then now it's been reversed. But I'm going, I'm going back to passively hating. I won't, I'm not going to be betting against the commanders. Okay. They lose. I'm not going to be mad, but I'm not going to be putting my chips in the, on the table. I don't think I got into Hank's head. I think Hank got into his own head. Red free. Well, no, you were just so mean to me that I was like, yeah, I don't want to see this guy happy. I now

I want them to lose. You live rent free in your own head. The commanders looked very good today. You get credit for killing bad teams. Yeah. The defense looked pretty good too. We needed a get right game because we'd looked real bad over the previous three weeks. So now I get a bye.

Now I get a stress free week of football, which I'm looking forward to. Yeah. The buys. Not having to watch your team on a Sunday well? I mean your team has been fun, but you have three teams that are chasing you so you it's not stress-free No, like it just doesn't make sense to me yeah, there will be some stress I feel good. I feel good because the way that we played today now. I'm like you like a lot of Cooper rush in the Cowboys

Yeah, but no you don't get it's a magic wand this game happened now. Everything's fine. It was the fucking Titans Yeah, did you hear when I said that they have the second best defense in the NFL? Sick it's the Titans, okay They beat the Texans There are they also have four wins true three wins three and nine congratulations listen I I am I'm happy you're not gonna steal my happiness don't be it don't be an energy vampire don't steal his happiness allow me I just won expectations Jerry turned to him when he was up 20 nothing he was like is this even fun for

you it's like I want to be talking yeah it was a lot of fun so much fun it was a lot of fun I wanted Marcus Mario to get in for the second half play against the old team the sickos and perverts if they had to write a script yeah it would be the Rams catching the commander's Hank getting to laugh and PFTs face then the Rams winning the Super Bowl and I'm losing my pinky yep honestly like that not like the sound of that not from just an entertainment aspect Pretty good work pretty good work script writer and the Rams beat the Eagles along the way So that you get that as well. Yeah

Where I were like I could just envision it a Podcast where I'm like in mid-january where I'm like Max your team stink the Rams beat you and he's like you're gonna lose your fucking baking your Rams beat the Chargers in the Super Bowl in the Super Bowl. Ah, okay. That'll probably happen. Yeah. Let's take another break.

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It was a fun game to watch because the past event is so bad. Anthony Richardson looked really good. Drake may play. He played. He played well. He looked like a quarterback. He won the game. His game winning drives. He's had two game winning drives the last three weeks and I've been very impressed with. Yeah. And he was he was running the ball. He was managing the game. He didn't look like he was completely lost out there like he has against other teams. Drake may played well. I don't know. I wanted them to win. Yeah. Did Joey sly almost hit that kick. He missed a 25 yard 25 yarder by 45 yards somehow And then yeah, they tried to kick a 65 yard field goal 68 68. Yeah I hit it tried for an NFL record. You guys like doubled up their yardage too and just

They just couldn't win the game in the end Shane Steichen deserves a lot of credit for going for two Yeah respect to them. That was a ballsy move. So there was a rumor that Juan Soto was going to be the keeper of the light before the game. What's his rumor out there from Jericho? Robbins? Instead it was Kofi Kingston. Oh, WWE super star legend. So good company. Yeah. I thought it, Anthony Richardson. I mean, it's the same thing every time where some, some of his passers drops drops his he had one interception was very bad He's you know, he threw for like a hundred yards and he was and he started three for three and ended up 12 for 24 But his game-winning drives there's a lot of credit and that's where I'm like, okay, I could see it

But I'm also not gonna be like man. He diced him up Yeah, did you do you always want to beat the Colts does that still run your blood. No the Colts are I mean they've they have a rivalry with us we don't really have a rivalry with them. Yeah it's rivalries back on pain manning years even now is a rivalry but we've won most of those games and then you know Andrew Luck to flake gate. Those are all domination. I Mean the Mayo the Mayo thing is gonna be the interesting team with the interesting thing with this team is They're so undisciplined. There's so many penalties and they don't play good defense

So why do they keep him around as a head coach? That will be the question moving forward offseason, etc I feel like they're gonna stick with them, but it doesn't make sense to me. I feel like they might stick with them because Robert Kraft would think that that's a bad look for him to fire a coach after one year. Yeah. Yeah. And there was, there's video, you know, there's videos of him being like, I knew he was going to be the next Patriots head coach five years ago. And it's like, wow, that was right, right after the Patriots won the super bowl. Yeah, that's weird Yeah, and Drake may played well that 41 yard

Run was awesome. Mm-hmm and the interception was that was that was a Madden glitch that was literally a Madden glitch where the ball fell on a guy who was on the ground and Someone picked it up off. It was a good pass. Yeah so Disappointing in the loss, but everything's okay Yeah, fun loss. How the Celtics doing? Celtics lost today. Yeah Fourth quarter lead collapsed injuries Jaylen Brown. They're quite dim play Yeah, they lost damn, I'm sorry, how do they look in the Sandings

Yeah, they lost damn. Yeah, I'm sorry. How are they looking in the sandings? Probably second place yeah any fun any good good teams that are looking pretty hot I Mean they lost to the Cavs the Cavs are in first, but I we played him in the playoffs We probably sweep him again. Would you be afraid of the Bucs? Not afraid six game winning streak healthy Yanis They'd be a formidable opponent. I wouldn't be afraid. I'm not tell this aren't afraid anyone Hold the healthy Celtics beat anyone that was funny with the cells to do the Bulls on Friday when they They're playing for the NBA Cup and they hit that three at the end for point differential How's our house is very funny? Oh bad about him? Yeah, it was very funny

But that's what the NBA Cup does you got to get the point differential just means more How are the sixers doing on their race to get to 10 wins? I think we... So we said by Christmas. Yeah. What if we beat the Celtics on Christmas? Does that count as one of the 10? That would be a win.

I'm gonna count that as four wins. Yeah, yeah, Christmas Day. But it's at the start of Christmas Day or the end of Christmas Day? Okay, so then we can afford one loss. Wait, what if it was at the start of Christmas Day? Then we'd have to win every game. No, I think that game should count as more than one win though. It's a big game.

It's on Christmas. Yeah. So yeah, no, it's bad. You have the opportunity to ruin Hank's Christmas. Beat the Pistons yesterday. You know what a gift that is? Wow. I mean, there's on Christmas. Yeah, so yeah, no, it's bad. You have the opportunity to ruin Hanks Christmas, you know What is your gift that is Wow? Really? There's no way like we might lose that game by 50. Yeah Is your gonna is he gonna play I?

Want him to get surgery on his knee and just let it up just clean it up Just get the whole thing clean it up. Take the ear off. Oh Wow, Cooper flag. And then we're back next year. You opted out. You opted out. I told you I opted back in. You can't do it. That's not how it works. I already opted in. By the way, the Colts, we should say, so I love the Shane Stiken move going for two because you just, you got to keep, you got to win right now if you're the Colts. They basically, their season comes down to, they have a bye and then their game against the Broncos. If they can beat the Broncos, they legitimately could go to the playoffs. Yeah.

Because that is the team right ahead of them. And, uh, the end of their season is Titans, giants, Jaguars. So watch out for the Colts. It would be awesome for Anthony Richardson to get like there are, I'll say this because I know I've been harsh on Anthony Richardson. I know that the Anthony Richard fans have been like, you've been so mean. Uh, I feel like I've only said facts, but the game winning drives against the jets and the Patriots both have me being like, you know what? Keep keep running them out there and see if he can, he can figure this out. Hank, if it was any other quarterback that won the game, we get to, and then did the

fortnight L dance in your face? Would you be upset? I don't know. I mean when you're, it's, it's that type of stuff gets you upset when you're, when you're a good team and you're like fighting for something. Yeah. We're in tankathon mode. It's like, who cares?

You did leave the room very abruptly. I mean, I had, I had a big, uh, I had a big, which it would have been more devastating when the room very abruptly. I mean, I had a big, which would have been more devastating when the Celtics lost. I had a big Patriots, Bruins, Celtics, because they all played today, Parlay, that lost. Okay. I noticed that. And now you're fourth.

You're picking fourth. Who do you want? Travis Hunter? I know you're a big college football guy. Yeah, I don't know. I got to do some more analyst analysis. You got to do more analyst? You do a little more analyst?

Analyst then. All right. Speaking of who's picking first. You should do that. You should make a big board. Hank Olitix. Hank Olitix. Drake may look good.

That's all you got to keep saying to yourself. And the interception was definitely not his fault. That was an insane, like, how does that happen type of interception? Speaking of who's picking first the Jaguars Texans 23 Jaguars 20. This was basically just the Trevor Lawrence Holy shit he got rocked game because Aziz Alshahr here. That was as bad of a pick or bad of a hit as we've seen in a long time. Yeah. Head bounced off the ground after starting his slide going in forearm. So shitty. This, this is why it's so fucked up when Patrick Holmes is a fake slide. Yeah. Cause you're

like, Oh, he's not really down. And granted, Trevor Lawrence is very clearly going. He was very much on this one. Yes. It was a very dirty hit. So much so in fact that D'Amico Ryan's after the game basically threw his guy into the bus and was like, we don't coach that. Well, I mean that was that also hurt their defense because the second half of the Jaguar Mac Jones had a little bit of a comeback, made it a close game. But yeah, that was, that was bad. And then we had, uh, I, the Jaguars credit to the Jaguars, they wanted to fight right away. Yeah, that I was awesome and then Jaguars fans started throwing shit at him. I actually think that's okay in that given those circumstances I agree. I also like when Aziz al-shahir hit him. He bounced up immediately was like I didn't do it Yeah, I do anything wrong like one and then was greeted by like four sets of cleats. Yeah, like biz in Scottsville

Yeah, they all wanted to fight him which that was good that they all had his back He got boot fucked. Yeah, it was that was a bad bad hit his bad hit and that I still don't really believe in the Texans But if they're gonna win football games by just feeding Joe Mixon, then I think that they're a pretty good team Yeah, he I said still like I've got my doubts about yeah, he iced out that game Their offense looked a little bit better because they didn't see a shot had time for once. Yeah. He only got sacked twice. They didn't have a ton of penalties. Uh, their defense is what was bad in this, in the third, fourth quarter with Mack Jones was bringing them back. I was actually shocked when I tuned into this game and looked at the screen for the first time that Doug Peterson is still in it. Oh

yeah. I was surprised. He just knew he hadn't been fired yet. But is he the most pre fired person in NFL history? Yeah, I think Sean Conn was just like I don't really want to do this right now Yeah, like I'll just wait till the end of the season. Why why why even do this? Yeah, Hank What just happened your eyes got real big Matt Collins scored a touchdown. I had him anytime touch on score There we go. No shoes because the no shoes. Yeah, no shoes. Yeah, he's a dog. Pills are fucking good. We'll talk about that game when it ends. By the way, Max has reached his ADD portion where he's he just stuck a quarter to his head for like five minutes. Very weird. Yeah, I don't believe in the Texas either. Yeah. And the Jaguars is changing his mind.

Sit Trevor Lawrence for the rest of the year. Right? Yeah. Yeah. There's no reason to play him. I don't see a reason why you would bring it back tank and then just basically the Jaguars were like bury the bury the tape for the entire season. If you're the Jaguars do you then trade the first overall bet. I think you have to right. Possibly. Yeah. Someone's vying for it. Carolina. Yeah. Get a haul. I don't know. Bryce Young is good. I know he is very strong is good. He's fucking back but yeah, sit him and and just Just jaguars just go what like the Jaguars don't need to be talked about anymore Essentially, it's opt out of the season. We should opt out of all Jaguars discourse Who do they they play any meaningful games? They have any meaningful opponents left? I guess the the Colts

But no, oh wow meaningful opponents left. I guess the Colts, but no. Oh, wow. Jack. This we're off the out of the Jaguars. Who do we have officially? The they play the Titans. Yeah. The jets, the Raiders, the Titans again. Oh, awesome. We've opted out of the job. I'm done. Yeah. We're done with the J the Jacksonville Jaguar put out a press release the the pardon My take is officially done with the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars and any discourse surrounding them love that me we might and then maybe an asterisk that says depending on whether Week 18 the Colts game has any implications memes actually said brings up a good point He says that this is actually massive for Tankathon

Yeah, all of those games are huge Tankathon games. Yeah huge. I guess so we're off to back in We'll update tank will update Tankathon in lieu of doing the Jaguars recap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll just do a Tankathon That's when we'll talk about the Jaguars. Yeah. Yeah, we will officially stop doing game recaps for the Jaguars games We'll just have it be the Tankathon games. I like that. Okay. Last game of the early slate see ox 26 jets 21 memes try not to give eye contact. This was means where do you want to start? This was one of the greatest first quarters by any football team ever. Okay. Cause I didn't know if you wanted to start with that where the Seahawks had two fumbles on kickoffs and

Also gave up a 99 yard kickoff return so they were down so fast so they were down so quickly I thought maybe you want to start with the fact that Gino Smith was playing the jets. Mark Sanchez was calling the game and then someone pointed out that and, and Tannenbaum is doing the coach search and it's just, it was like basically the gang is all back together. Yeah. No, we're the circus. Yeah. The circus came to town. Uh, but yeah, that was a incredible start. Incredible first quarter. That's up there with the Mike White game from week eight when we beat the Bengals. Yep.

I lost my turn of thought. How good the first quarter was? How good the first quarter was. Incredible execution. Devonte Adams, Aaron Rodgers slinging it. Thought we just needed a bye. They got going. I thought the season was

saved and then he overthrew Garrett Wilson in the end zone yeah that bad oh that was a bad one what happened after that is a sad then it was a pick six Leonard Williams who's where where'd he play where to get drafted there was a there was a bridge team in there but we're gonna draft yeah originally he was really good when he was a rookie, right? Where'd he get drafted? The Jets. Oh.

So Geno Smith got drafted by the Jets? He did, yeah him too. And Mark Sanchez got drafted by the Jets? There was a bridge team for all three Impact players for the Seahawks. Who did Geno? Wait, who's the third Impact player? Julian Love. Oh, okay.

He caused a fumble on Brutale And they were all on the Giants oh What did you make the news coming out before the game that Aaron Rodgers is unlikely to return? I was like, all right, we'll move on and then that first quarter happened. I was like, all right Let's just run it back restructure run it back. Yeah. Yeah, what about say he's in the best shape of his life physically Yeah, he's it. Well, I Yeah. What about say he's in the best shape of his life physically? Yeah, he's well I should I should Change that he said He feels the best that he's ever felt physically in his life feels the best he ever felt This is man who's done a lot of awesome drugs that make you feel really good physically. So it makes sense

based on that first quarter and then you saw the Deterioration throughout the game when he overthrew Devante out Adams on that fourth down. then you saw the deterioration throughout the game when he overthrew Devontae out Adams on that fourth down he overthrew Garrett Wilson there was just a lot of timing mishaps. Yeah. If we had a four years younger Aaron Rodgers it would be unreal. Yeah. So he said that not only is the healthiest he's felt for a while but he also said when asked about like whose fault it is, he said, there's 11 guys on the field. Sometimes my fault. And then sometimes the details aren't there in some other spots too. Sounds like he thinks other people's faults.

Yeah, I saw that quote. Um, a lot of it is his fault. Oh yeah. Well, it means I got a bad stat for you. Um, unfortunately this game brought Aaron Rogers out of the top five and EPA per play this year All the way down to 23rd This game well, I assume he was top five before he was top five and everything everything At one point he was tough. This is a terrible second half collapse for the Jets Yeah, after their offense started the season off looking so good. Yeah Yeah, you guys just keep bringing up bad stats I actually alright memes I got some of them maybe cheer

Yep, I found a bad stat and then it ended up being it was basically like call the ambulance But not for me meme where you know the guy couples a gun cuz Aaron Rodgers has not thrown for where you know the guy couples a gun cuz Aaron Rodgers has not thrown for 300 yards in 34 games and then I went to look it up and obviously the last time he did it was against the Bears yeah week 13-20-21 so call the ambulance but for me yeah I was well I've been aware that's that yeah so memes what also eras had the ball with a chance to win the game with a field goaler touchdown five times this year over five memes though, since we're on the talk of memes, walk us through Gino Smith after the game posted the meme of like, you know, dressed up for my hit it for my haters funeral. That meme. Yep. You were upset yeah it's fucked up talk

shit when when it's even score oh wait that's a Michael Jordan meme yeah that is yeah talk shit when it's even score you won go back to Seattle go fuck yourself that's it mmm okay stop you're his biggest hater yeah and today was your funeral we're not his biggest hate he stopped You're his biggest hater. Yeah, and today was your funeral. We're not his biggest hater. He stopped charities are his biggest hater Oh, oh god Why do charity reason why it didn't work out on the Jets? I would say I charity of Face yeah, and then Ryan Fitzpatrick had the second greatest season in Jets history So they gave Ryan's Fitzpatrick a new contract. They they believed in him then Ryan Fitzpatrick got fat and sucked whoa

He did yeah He held out out for more money which set a rip my mouth through where we are now So Gino Smith not showing up to a charity event set the Jets back ten years to this moment, okay? And we're sure that he did not show up to the charity event. That's exactly what happened He bought him a plane ticket and just didn't show up and yeah memes memes replied. Hey Gino respectfully go fuck yourself These bad guys seems like you're not happy. Would you like him to be the next Jets quarterback? No question Max so Given the given the opportunity you would say no to Gino Smith. No, I don't think you're in a place to be able to do that

Yeah, yeah Say yes to Gino Kirk Cousins you would say yes to him. I think you'd probably say yes to Darin Arnold He said yes to yeah, yeah Derek Carr I think he's a free agent or he's he's gonna be out of New Orleans probably next year. Yeah Derek Carr will be a wild ride. Oh What a wild ride. Oh my god. A wild ride. What a wild ride. We got Derek Carr, boys.

Yeah Derek Carr, I'd do Derek Carr. You would? Yeah. You would do Geno Smith. No. You should say yes to Geno Smith. No, bad guy. You should say yes to Geno Smith.

You love memes. You literally love memes. He's a bad guy. You're just, you're jealous, I think. Of what? he memed you. Yeah, exactly. He used your weapons against you. That's good point. That's why I brought it up because I was like, Oh, memes got memed. He's got to be pissed about. Yeah. But do do it before the game. Everybody talks. You can't do that before the game. Yeah. Be a

man. It doesn't make sense before the yeah, that doesn't make sense before the game. Yeah, that doesn't make sense before the game. If they're your biggest hater, talk to your shit before the game. But that's not the funeral. Yeah, he killed them. So we're all black going into the game. The Jets were all black today. That's true.

How'd you like those uniforms? I love those uniforms. Aaron Rodgers looked very, very depressed in that uniform. He wore that turtleneck? Yeah, he looked like a French painter from the 1700s. Yeah, he should just retire. Well, so he wants to play next year, I think. But according to the Jets, he's not going to be back.

I've got just something I'm going to toss out there. Because to me, it makes sense. Aaron Rodgers on the Rams next year mmm what happened to Matt Stafford yet Matt Stafford might he might retire okay um I don't hate it I feel like he would want to play for McVeigh and I feel like McVeigh would look at him be like I've done it before people are saying Aaron Rodgers Titans Aaron Rodgers Titans another house in Nashville nothing that does feel like he would be that kind of fits his vibe. Yeah, like you do some

Yeah, he feels like Nashville. Well think about it So he got close to Woody Johnson because of the vaccine right to try to bring down the jets from the inside He might make his next mission to destroy the entire state of California. Oh That's true. Yeah, that's true As for the Seahawks, they are in the lead for the NFC West and I'm starting to believe. Yeah. Again, I can't figure the Seahawks out at all. Their goal line offense is so frustrating. It's not even week to week. It's quarter to quarter. Yeah. Yeah. No, this was a, the beginning of this game was just a comedy

of errors for the Seahawks. And I don't't know what I think they probably got to get Levis because you know Not returning kicks anymore because that the funk the second fumble where he almost fumbled and then fell down and then just threw the ball Yeah, they are hard to figure out and they had like that that goal lines Offensive set where it felt like they ran 100 plays and they ended up on like the 20 yard line. Yeah, so what's the Seahawks' schedule here? I think they still have a lot of NFC West, right?

I think they have to play the Rams and Cardinals again at least. So that should be, they should duke it out, figure this whole thing out on the field. I got about two and three. Two and three? Two and three in their next five. Oh no. So that's probably not going to the playoffs, right? I don't know. Two and three in their next five is going to be tough. Their two wins are against the Cardinals and the Rams. Oh, no, they're going to beat the Bears. I don't know why you would say that as a loss. Oh, they do have a tough, tough schedule though.

They needed this game today. That was a huge win yeah yeah Packers Vikings both at home and Cardinals Rams and Bears they should probably beat the Bears although that might be of the Bears last win or next win next and last win yeah both combo win alright so memes what are we looking at Tankathon? Yeah the first round pick I mean first overall pick. pick. You think you can get the first overall pick? We are the anti-chiefs and manage to lose every single game. Doesn't matter how. We just figure out a way. Yeah. You have three wins.

Yeah, you're not getting the first pick, buddy. Why not? Because the Giants, Raiders, and the Jaguars, one of those teams is not winning another game. Maybe the Giants. Youiders and the Jaguars, one of those teams is not winning another game. Maybe the Giants. You're not getting the first pick. Are you taking a quarterback? There are no quarterbacks.

What do you mean? Shador? No. Kim Ward? No. Carson Beck? Garth. Oh, I found his Georgia.

You don't want that memes. You don't want that memes if you look at Big arm oh kind of stupid There's one of those in the AFC East right now. Oh Stop it stop it. Don't do that Who are you talking about Josh? Oh, thank Carson package? insane the not not the athleticism of Josh Allen, but those wait Stupid stupid Josh Allen's not stupid

There used to be a meme that it was just like if Josh Allen was a stupid and it would just be like Highlights of Tom Brady Josh. Allen's not stupid though. He's actually you guys go full Josh Allen. Yeah, he goes crazy He goes crazy. He's totally different That's not stupid. No Crazy is crazy rocks crazy. Josh. Yeah. Yeah when he goes full Josh Allen, he's like I'm Josh Allen. I could do anything Yeah, it's not really stupid. It's just like too much confidence You ever date a stupid chick? You ever dated a crazy chick? Yes crazy chicks

It's they're called the Jets it's a crazy chick every fall oh memes yeah cars and back I could also get behind Jalen Milro okay but our no what no no he's so what he's yes he's no memes is right no memes is right Our moments where if we had a mobile corporate quarterback this year Wow, no me me from the season means I will not let you draft Jalen Milro You cannot do that first round not first round. I know but still Bloodman was a Nussmeyer. Oh, yeah, he's sussy for Nussie. Yep. Okay Nussmeyer's got a hose All right, let's uh, let's do, uh, a couple of ads and then we'll get to our afternoon games or one at one ad before

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Bucks 26, Panthers 23. PFT, I have a question for you. Okay. Yes. What happened in those three weeks that Bryce Young got benched? Uh, he became him. It's crazy. Yeah. I know they lost this game, but it wasn't his fault because, uh, he had a touchdown drive with 30 seconds left. He had a, uh, basically a field goal drive in overtime to win the game. If it wasn't for a Hubbard fumble, which was an incredible strip sack by the way by Anthony Nelson, but Bryce Young is a different, dude

Did he looks good Bryce Young looks very very good. He looks comfortable I think it was like getting benched and then all the the trade talk and things like that He realized oh fuck. I'm gonna have to move and then he got a chance to play again He was like, I don't want to pack up all my shit. This is I'm playing now not just for micro I'm playing so that I don't have to move again. Yeah, and I mean the Panthers they lost this game again It was no, I'm gonna count this as a win for the Panthers Yeah, like it's not gonna count in the official standings, but this is as good as a win for the Panthers But they've officially I mean my power rankings last week had them graduated officially from ASS, which they've been in ASS for

I don't know like 30 consecutive weeks. They are a spoiler frisky team that oh man are they building something for next year where hey we have Bryce Young, he's not so bad, we could maybe use our first round draft pick and get him a really good receiver or an offensive lineman or someone on defense. Like they, the Panthers, it's crazy how different the outlook looks for the Panthers if Bryce Young is a decent quarterback. Yeah. Maybe it was, maybe they had him playing scout team safety as the backup quarterback. He got to see the offense from a different perspective. It unlocks something and now he's good all of a sudden. This game probably turned out as good as it could for the Panthers because you don't win the game. You don't screw up your draft pick. Bryce young plays well. He leads you on a game tying drive. Yup. Uh, and he doesn't fuck up an overtime. He led you on a game

winning drive in overtime. Yeah. And then somebody else was at Chuba Hubbard that yeah. Yeah. So he didn't screw up the game in overtime. That was running back who you already trust and believe in and it's not like You're gonna look at Hubbard be like, oh fuck this guy from now on No, you still like that guy so it all actually comes out to just as good as a win pretty much for the Panthers Yeah, and and the Bucks they needed this game because you have the Falcons losing and Now the Bucks are tied for the NFC South. They they lose the tiebreaker obviously to the Falcons because they lost twice to them but

the Bucs are very much in the thick of it. Could not lose this game. Baker was not great today but they were like hey we're just going to run Bucky Irving down your throat and it worked. And shout out Todd Bowles because I think he is one of the more conservative meek coaches when it comes to in game decisions and risk taking. I liked that he tried to get that extra five yards with six seconds left and they ran that like getting the ball back with 30 seconds. They ran those 30 seconds perfectly to get into field goal range to get it into overtime

because if they had lost this game I know their season wouldn't be over but it would have felt over because it was like you just had Everything fall in your lap the Falcons lose there. They're absolutely skidding You can now take the NFC South. You could even maybe sneak into the Playoffs another way. Although the commanders do have 87% chance. But I believe it's 85. 85. The Bucks are like back.

They had a like, I think the Bucks are a very good team that had a really, really tough stretch of schedule that that fucked them up. Well, it coincided with their worst injuries. Yeah, their worst injuries at the same time as the worst part of the schedule. But now they have, you know, the only game that is against a team over 500 left is the, uh, chargers. So they have five games left. They could, let's even say they go four and one. That's a 10 and seven record that should potentially win them the South and if not, could potentially get them into the playoffs. They could. Yeah they

could. The Bucs you don't want to play them in the playoffs and honestly I feel happy for for Panthers fans because you get to enjoy watching football again on Sundays. Yeah. Without feeling like a complete degenerate of like just making an appointment for your own torture and then just scheduling out the rest of your day you're gonna feel like shit because you saw a miserable product. But as for the Bucs I feel like you might be very frustrated at the end of the season looking back being like we were a much better team than our record says that they were. And they probably were.

I think no matter what happens, I feel like the Bucs, by the way that the injuries happened to them, and even through the injuries they kept playing well. But if it weren't for those, then you can definitely point back and say we should have won this division if they don't. Yeah. The Falcons overtime loss was the one that they'll look back and be like, how did that happen? Because that game could end up deciding everything. But I I'm a believer in the bucks. I'm a believer in Baker Mayfield. I think this team is poised to go on a run to get into the playoffs. And, uh, they, this was the game though. Like if they had lost this game, it would have been

Disastrous for them. It wouldn't have been disastrous in like they still would have been very much alive It was felt disastrous because that's a game that you got to win and they have the Raiders coming up and you got to Win that one too. And then you're gonna be looking around being like hey, we're we're okay like we might actually win this NFC South because I believe the Falcons have a We're okay. Like we might actually win this NFC South because I believe the Falcons have a tougher schedule kids The Falcons play the Vikings. It's pretty much a coin flip between the Falcons and the Bucks to win that division right now And then I'd say a pretty pretty high likelihood that second place in the NFC South is going to get in over an NFC West team Wait, no PFD if the Falcons get, you're out. There is no NFC. You're the team. How? How do you figure?

You're the 17th. Oh, I forgot. You have an 85% chance. I forgot about the Vikings and the Packers. Yeah. You can't have a second NFC West or a second NFC south team go on a run. So right now the bucks are at 50%. 49%. Listen, I'm looking at the spreadsheet right now.

It says 85%. Is the New York Times lying to me? The playoffs are set as set could be in the NFC if you're a commanders fan. It's just the Vikings, Packers and Lions are all in and NFC. If you're a commander's fan, it's, it's just the Vikings, Packers and lions are all in and the Eagles. And then you just have to have it be a one bid league between the NFC West and the NFC South. That's it. Okay. I'll, if that happens, you're in, I'll be, I'll be fully, I'll be fully transparent. I went to NFL.com. I went to ESPN and I went to the New York times athletic. They all have calculators. I chose to NFL.com. I went to ESPN and I went to the New York Times athletic. They all have

calculators. I chose to stay on the one that had myself at the highest percentage. Got 85. Got it. Yeah. No, you, you, you're going to actually have a very big week 17 game against the Falcons against Falcons. That could be a, uh, a shifter of everything. I, if it were up to me and I got to decide the Falcons or the bucks get it, I would want the bucks. I want to, I want to watch more bucks football. Yes. Then I want to watch Falcons. Yeah. He said both. Yeah. Why not both? Why not both? Why not both? Do you want to just invite both? No, I don't want to. I know. I think they're both very nice.

What about the Seahawks and the Rams? You want to invite both them? No, I hate them. I think they're both very nice. What about the Seahawks and the Rams? You want to invite both them? No, I hate them. It's like, it's our previous conversation is like 85%. Then you realize those three teams. Yeah, it's the Bucks, the Cardinals, the Rams, all sitting there being like, Hey,

we want it. Well, here's where I don't get it. The only way they get in is if you get out 85% for the commanders and then the Bucks 49%. But that's because of the division then yeah, I know then the Cardinals and the Rams both 35 27% right because of the division because of the division They're not so we're getting right now to get in is the division singular focus get into the playoffs again next week You just need the Bucks the Cardinals and Rams to somehow all lose Mm-hmm. I don't know who the Cardinals and Rams play they play each other. That would be good

Well, that'd be good and bad tie that's a tie would come probably fuck some shit up I was a break your brain even more. I was rooting hard for a tie in the in the Bucks Panthers game It would have been a fight I like to have one tie per year at least just to have that little dash one at The end to fuck everything up with the schedules Yeah, it looks nice and then you can just revert back to like the 16 game schedule mindset where you're like Oh, they're gonna finish eight Nate and one my brain still kind of fucks up every now with the 16 17 game I know that's stupid to say Cardinals play the Seahawks and the Bills play the ramp the Rams play the bills

So you can get double losses there. Let's go double loss the Bucks play the Seahawks and the Bills play the Rams play the Bills. So you can get double losses there. Let's go double loss. The Bucks play the Raiders though, so that's probably not going to be a loss. That's okay. But the Falcons play the Vikings, so that could be a loss. That's good. Yeah. The disaster for next week is if the Falcons, if somehow the Falcons, Bucks, Cardinals and

Rams all won, you know what you should do is you should parlay all four of them it's gonna work just as like a like anti don't lose the bye week parlay yeah don't lose the bye week parlay just bet all four of those teams to win so if you somehow if they somehow do you at least won a huge bet listen we control own destiny. You do probably control your own destiny. Yes. Yeah. We went out. Yeah. That's all you can ask for this time of year. Yeah. You control your own destiny. Don't lose the game that you shouldn't. Don't lose a game. You're not supposed to lose. I don't plan on it. That's really what it comes down to because aren't your, aren't your games besides the Eagles pretty easy. Saints. When Falcons win. Thank you Hank. Uh yeah. That's a toss up. Cowboys win. Well, you can't say that. You can't say anymore. Venge. Just don't lose a game. You're

supposed to win. I won't. I actually, you know what you should do is you, you get the saints or a must win. You have to win that game. If you beat the saints, I think you'll be good. The saints are a must win. The saints must win. Yeah. Because if you beat the Saints, I think you'll be good. The Saints are a must-win. The Saints are a must-win. Yeah, because if you lose the Saints game, you're in deep doo-doo. Yeah, then we got to beat the Eagles. Yeah, right. Yep. Yeah, Saints are a must-win. Must win next week or two weeks from now. But yeah, the Bucs, I agree with you. I'd like the Bucs to be in the playoffs. They're fun. They'll cause some havoc. Also, the Bucs, if you go off the BCS model, the Bucs do have two very good wins because they beat the Lions and the Eagles yeah, so they have two of the most impressive wins in the entire season

Yeah, I mean they're a very good team when they play well. I also like rooting for Bucky. He's he's fun to hear on Bucky Irving It's fun. Okay, also Stephen Che being Disavowed by the Bucks was great. Although he had the ultimate Stephen Che spin zone He's like if I'm no longer a Bucks fan, then that means I'm eligible for the Ring of Honor Mm-hmm, so and he actually meant that but also the person that would put him in the Ring of Honor is a person who? Disavowed him from being a Bucks fan. Yes Okay, Rams 21 Saints 14. I feel like this was the end of Rizzi ball We had the first half where the Saints defense was flying around the Rams couldn't do anything

It was actually the first time that Sean McVey's been shut out in a first half in his career and then Matthew Safford woke up and so did Kyron Williams and he started throwing darts everywhere and Rizzi ball is Maybe dead. I feel like as Taysom Hill goes so goes Rizzi Ball. Yeah. So he got hurt, he got carted off. Hope he's okay but that's really Rizzi was leaning heavily into just using Taysom all the time. Yeah. And yeah you're not gonna be able to do that now and I feel like the Saints are the Saints without Taysom Hill and Rizzi as the coach to me are the exact same team as the Saints with Taysom Hill and Dennis Allen as a coach. Yes, I'd agree with that. Just kind of not fun

and boring. Also Florida State has one victory this year. Jared verse should win defensive rookie of the year. He's a beast and he ended this game. No. Oh, oh, Cooper, Jean, Quinnian Mitchell, Quinnian Mitchell. Yeah, that's true. And Cooper. But they'll split votes. They will probably split votes. But the Rams are back alive. Yeah, very much. They needed this win badly. Very much. And it looked in the first half like they weren't going to get it. And I have no idea what's going to happen in that division. It's just a log jam. Will you, what about the Seahawks and Rams? Yeah, you could get two teams in, you can squeak two teams in This possibility everyone would hate it if that happened

Could be two teams from that division This is boy math and i'm failing at it right now. It will actually I feel like the nfc west is gonna weirdly Be decided Uh by how much fight the 49ers have left? Yeah, because if the 49ers the 49ers already played the Seahawks twice, if they kind of quit, they have the Rams and Cardinals left, that could help the Rams and Cardinals. I'm just looking at like, if you were in a bad situation,

like you were running from the cops and you and your buddies had one coach from the NFC West that had to help you get out of the jam, who would that be? And that'd probably be Sean McVeigh. Yeah, although I feel like Jonathan Gannon would do something weird. He's got some connects in the underground. Yeah. I feel like Jonathan Gannon will come up with a plan that would work like one out of a hundred times, but when it works, it would be incredible.

Sean McVeigh would be kind of like a better call Saul, a shady ass lawyer Yeah, that could get you off on a technicality Jonathan again. It would be like hey, let's just hide like under this Inflatable pool yeah, and like let's hide in this trash can and it would work one out of a hundred times And then all the other 99 times it have the dogs and they would get you couch and it would be like let's call my dad Yeah, he'll get us out of this. Oh, yeah, it would just choke not actually Yeah, not a bad strategy. Just like get your dad on the case, but this is um It's a fucked up division. Oh weird Jared versus actually odd. I was on favorite. Oh Yeah, what? Minus 110 okay, so wasn't crazy for me to say that I mean you said he's a rookie of the year He's my I said he might win rookie. No you you know You said he is the defensive rookie. Okay. All right, so you know what? I'll say that he is the defensive rookie of the year

All right, we'll see we will see that's why they play the games That's why they play the game. That's why they play the games buddy Cooper Jean is gonna get split votes That's your problem people are gonna want to vote for Cooper. Um That's your problem people are gonna want to vote for Cooper um Yeah, I the Rams are another team where it'd be fun to see them in just cuz Matthew Stafford anything is possible with Matthew One last ride. It's it's basically when he just turns it on. He's like the first half was was So bad for the Rams, and then he's like yeah, you know what I'm Matthew Stafford Let me do this play action and let me hit everyone. Oh, yeah, I have Cooper Cup Cup and I've puking Nikua to Marcus Robinson was yeah getting big passes down the field

All right. I think that's all the games right? I think that's it. Yep. All right, so who's back of the week? It's fine. There's not much to say okay. Let's do it Eagles are really all right. Let's do it bills 35 Niners 10 All right max Eagles 24 Ravens 19 I think the Eagles might be for real If they beat the Panthers well they I mean they only beat the Ravens by five Yeah, it was a close game. Max was so mad at the end. He's like I want I don't want them to score So people think it was close. Yeah, you want to be double digits you wanted though. You wanted the casuals the box score watchers To be like hey, yeah, we beat him 2412 people read the newspaper for their for their scores

Instead they see 24 19. They're like, ooh tight one Wasn't a tight one. No wasn't the Eagles are awesome on say quan Barkley is incredible Tell us everything max. I mean, there's not really much to say. It, the Eagles are what they are. They start off slow and then by the end of it, the defense has just kept worn down by Saquon and he just goes off in the third and fourth quarter. Yeah. So it's just like, their defense is elite. The defense is incredible. Real. I wish I could, I wish I could say that they held on to 12 points.

Yeah. Like 12 sounds so much better. 12 is bet. And Justin Tucker though, he's he's washed. He actually, you actually need to cut him. I think it'd be the rate. So hard boss said that he wasn't going to do, he wasn't going to like kick him out. Now, what Justin Tucker should have done is like four weeks ago faked an injury. Yeah. You can't, you can't get cut.

You're going to make, you're going to make John Harbaugh cut you. He doesn't want to have to cut you. This is an old Yeller situation. Yes. Where he will shoot you in the head behind the shed. If you let this drag out far enough and uh, just don't make them do that. He doesn't want to do that. No, you don't want that to happen. It's bad because everyone knows it's an issue and

uh, he's sort of, hopefully be playing in big time playoff games and it's an issue. He went from a sure thing. This is our secret weapon to a very big issue. Just make up an injury for yourself. Yeah. You get a bad groin. It's, it's bad. It's an issue. It's an issue. Yeah, it's really so right now He's this year. He's kicking at 73% Which is 36th in the NFL. Mm-hmm. So he's worse than every starting kicker in the NFL and then What five backups worse than those guys? That's really bad. It's bad. That's really bad point today. It is going to be, it's going to be a problem for him in the playoffs. Yeah. It's going to be a

very big problem. Do we want to do narratives on, uh, MVP Lamar lost it today. Say Quan and Josh Allen, two men race. I don't want to, I don't, I just like to just be knee jerk. I mean, I don't think he actually lost it cause he could, he could probably, depending on if he has primetime games or whatever, That's really what it comes down to you just have to be a one or two seed And have enough primetime games at the end to have everyone be like, oh shit. He's the best Yeah, even if even a great Thursday night game would help Yes point as somebody that has a future on Lamar Jackson win MVP I don't want to say it's a two-horse race just yet, but I will say it's not looking good. No, no, it's not looking good.

No. Because Lamar's playing bad, it's that Josh and Saquon are playing incredible. Saquon had another 100 plus yards. Is he on 2K watch? Oh yeah. Big time, right? Big time 2K watch. What is he at right now?

Are you gonna make a shirt for 2k? Sure, yeah, you might as well I got I had a real great glimpse of Eagles fandom Just a minute ago before we walked in here so our president pug president pug is an Eagles fan as well and Max and pug were having a disagreement pug was saying that He wasn't satisfied with the win because the Eagles didn't score in the first and third quarter. Mmm. That's good. That's a winning mentality He's like I would have liked to see the first and third quarter have more points your first quarter suck Max Our first quarter suck all year you got to figure that out. Yeah

Oh, he's at 1500 yards right now and how many how many games you have left have you guys had your buy? Yes, I think we have five games left. Yeah five games, so he's gonna get it These average hundred hundred yards a game. Yeah hundred yards games not a problem for sake one That's not a problem. Who do you guys have an easy schedule? Oh you play the Steelers Oh, you play the Steelers. Steelers and Commanders are tough. Oh, you're putting... Okay. Commanders are tough. I like that. Appreciate it. Yeah. Respect. Tough-ish. Giants with no Dexter Lawrence? Yep. Do you have them twice? Do you have the Giants twice?

No, we go Panthers. Oh. 100. Steelers. commanders 100 hmm Cowboys Giants 150 yeah 150 that's it. He got it. Congrats. Congrats. Sequon Barkley MVP Yeah, MVP. I have incredible. I have his MVP 5 to 1. Oh hell. Yeah. Yep. Love that for you, Max not 20 to 1 like You know the other guy that we have. Who? Who's that? The Heisman. Oh, I remember.

I got confused. I have him 40 to one. Oh, I don't look at my best that much. But when you said 21, I thought you were talking about Lamar, who I do have 20 to 40. But then I've got 21 also on on Travis. I just looked it up. Oh, Travis Hunter. That's right. Travis Hunter. Be very interesting.

We were going to find out about this guy. We got to learn. We got to learn about him. Who is Travis Hunter that's very very interesting. We were gonna find out about this guy. We gotta learn We'll learn about him who is Travis Hunter. Yeah, seems like a nice guy Are the Ravens? They're in trouble now not trouble, but it's gonna be hard to win the AFC North there Yeah, they're in trouble for for home field right then that AFC North like And oh man that would be imagine if they matched up with the Steelers I don't think I think they actually right now they would if the playoffs started today

It would be Steelers hosting Ravens. I think we as a country deserve that Yeah, we deserve to have Raven Steelers in the playoffs. It would be Chargers and Texans, which is a winnable game for Saturday game. Oh yeah. Early Saturday Steelers Ravens. They would maybe do the Monday night game. Yeah. Remember we have that Monday game. You want you such a shitty disadvantage. You want to look at the playoff matchups right now and say when they would be played. Yeah, sure. Okay. So we've got, this is fun. The bills and the Broncos bills and Broncos. I think would be the Sunday early game

Like the the noon kickoff that might be Saturday night Mmm. No, I don't think so. I think I think the Packers Eagles would be Saturday night You have that Sunday that Sunday like four o'clock Wait, that's a that's a no commanders Eagles Commanders Eagles that would be maybe Saturday night. They would want to put the Eagles on a night They like that shit Packers Seahawks that would be Sunday afternoon

Falcons Vikings Maybe Monday night, maybe Maybe Monday night. Yeah, probably would sprinkle that is like a Monday night. Maybe maybe Saturday. Maybe Monday night. Yeah, it probably would sprinkle than it is like a Monday night game Yeah, Steelers Ravens would be Saturday night or Monday night That would be the worse that would be the night Sunday Sunday one and four like the NFL's Best slots though. No, no night night night night So you'd have you definitely have to do Steelers Ravens. That's a Sunday night game. Yeah for sure You definitely have to do Steelers Ravens. That's a Sunday night game. Yeah for sure Steelers Raven Sunday night

Yeah, this is really stupid the problem is Chargers. The problem is we've got two candidates for early Saturday game I'm writing this out. Yeah, we got two candidates for early Saturday games One would be the Vikings at the Falcons Texans should and then the other father into that slot Yeah, Chargers to Texans is the first game. Okay. That's game one. Saturday night. Hold on. I'm just filling in the spots that I know. Okay. This is good. Broncos at Bills is the is the noon Sunday game. The afternoon game is going to be Packers at Eagles or Seahawks Packers at Seahawks and then the night Sunday night game is going to be Steelers Ravens Yeah, right. Yep. Then we have Monday night and some Saturday night to fill in and I believe Saturday night would be

Shit pills Broncos know that I have that Sunday at noon. No, Saturday night would be Saturday night, be Eagles commanders. Then they would put the Falcons Vikings, uh, whole Kirk cousins thing on Monday night football. Okay. I feel good about that. That's a hell of a weekend of football. I feel good about that. I'm excited for 12. It's good. So he changes the seating and everything. No, but it, but think about it. That's like, we just planned out a perfect week into football. Those like that makes

complete sense. Now I'm kind of attached to that schedule and it's December. This is when we start thinking about this stuff. This is when you start putting it in your head, like, Hey, playoff football. There's really those three weeks where you have the whole NFL playoffs. It's the best because it's basically the middle of the week is just so relevant in my brain. Where it's like, just get me to the playoff games and every playoff game, you just sit there and soak it in. Oh, love it. Love it. And it's all the roads to New Orleans. Max, have you thought about Max being in New Orleans? Being in New Orleans. Of course I thought about it. With the Eagles. Of course I thought about Max being in New Orleans being in New Orleans horse with the

Eagles of course I'd be kind of mad at you because that means we'd have to stay longer because you would have to go to the game I'd get so drunk that Saturday night we would need to hire you your own big dom Like a big dom impersonator no to follow you around and keep try to keep you sober no no He's got to go all out. We got to let him just do whatever he wants you should hire your own big dom Yep, yeah, no, that's that's what would really need to happen. Yeah We maybe we should go to the Super Bowl with him. I Don't know. I don't know about that. I've been to a Super Bowl It's pretty fun. It would be fun to go with Max Super Bowl with him I Don't know I don't know about that never been to a super Bowl

It's pretty fun. It would be fun to go with Max Mean wrong one Rowan have to go to yeah, Rome will come Rome be invited for sure Run it back. Yeah run it back. I would not I would not be able to cheer on the Eagles in the Super Bowl I did it last time because of the pills. Yeah Well, we got if the bills when we'd have to go because we I would probably get to go into the locker Yeah, I'd do I would be sitting next to Ed and Alicia. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We invest all week We should talk bills Niners bills are awesome 35 to 10. They won Niners are broken Christian McCaffrey. The walls are back PCL is what they said bonus snow game too. I feel like you only usually get one a year. Yeah, that was an awesome. I mean, the bills are just built for the snow.

It's like the, the running game, Josh, just being able to throw, by the way, congrats to Josh getting engaged, then scores two touchdowns, has a throwing, he had, he had a passing touchdown, a receiving touchdown, and a rushing touchdown and his receiving touchdown was passed by himself. Getting engaged, loving it in the snow. This is a guy that does not need dome. No, there it is. Christian McCaffrey's calf exploded. Yeah, I think it was PCL. Yeah, but it looked like his calf exploded. The Niners are seasoned from hell. It's seasoned from hell.

This is one of those games where the snow affected one team way way way worse than the other. Yes Like the 49ers looked like they couldn't walk out there. Yes, and the Bills were just doing whatever they wanted He did Matt Milano play in this game. I Actually doing work during I actually don't know but he's back. He's gonna be back like the Bills man They they made a comment. I don't know if it's because they're just building a like Green Bay has with a heated, heated turf, but they mentioned like they were talking to Josh and how Matt Milano was in the game. He played. Yeah. When they're in the new stadium, the weather might not matter as much. That's something that you say when you're building a new stadium. Yeah. Like the stadium's right next to the coast.

You can, the pit is right next to it The whoever was calling over we were talking to Josh before the game and I was asking him, you know The weather when you're in the new stadium won't be as much of a factor You're gonna miss this place and he was just like no Are they saying that they're gonna leave the old stadium up so it's gonna shield the new stadium from the wind I don't know or I think I think I think I know what it is. He did feel that like can melt snow. No, it also is. It's also, there's like, it's, it's not root. It's not a roof, but it's like a partial roof. So it probably is not going to be as windy. I would imagine. Like if you look at it, it looks like a half the, yeah, half of the stands have a roof over it. Oh, yeah from the lake side

It definitely won't be as windy as the old stadium They should just keep building new stadiums just in between all their old stadiums until it's 100% insulated from the wind you ever seen that picture where there I Think it was for I think there was for all four of the Milwaukee Bucks where they played were all like up at one point What do you mean? Like the Bucks played? Can you look this up the Milwaukee Bucks all for their stadium? So they built their new stadium before they demolished the old one Yeah, and then the the one they played in like 50 years ago was like an auditorium that was across the street

So it's like all of their history was all within like one block. That's pretty cool. It was pretty cool It's a cool picture. I don't I don't know if you can find it. You didn't really what did you search? Just Buck Stadium Buck Stadium history. No all all four pug was so good at this. Maybe you pug Impossible fuck. I'll see if I can accomplish that feet balls no less than five days ago stadiums in one picture Milwaukee, maybe it was three Box balls, no less than five days ago. Four stadiums in one picture. Milwaukee, maybe it was three. It might have been three. I don't know. I saw it once and it was fucking cool. Here? Oh yeah. Yeah, there it is. Three NBA arenas all in a row. Yeah.

That's pretty cool. And I think the fourth was like an auditorium across the street. It's pretty cool. I like that. It's like the evolution poster. Yeah, that's pretty cool. And I think the fourth was like an auditorium across the street. It's pretty cool. I like that. It's like the evolution poster. Yeah. Isn't that cool? I'm happy that we stopped for that. All right. Good job, Max for finding that. Yeah. Good job, Max for finding that. Uh, row back question before we do who's back. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts rollback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Let's do week 13. We're in December Super Bowl matchups around the room memes. Would you like to start?

Give it to us Super Bowl matchup Super Bowl matchup when we were week 13. We haven't I Don't know if our predictions what our preseason predictions were remember when max Picked the or no, he made fun of me for picking Vikings over or no you picked Vikings under and I know you made fun of me for picking Vikings under yeah, and I was I'm so wait So wait for my apology. Take it. I'm still waiting for my apology. I Did not? We're in California for grit week, dude So waiting for my apology take it. I'm still waiting for my apology I did not

We're in California for grit week, dude Memes I'm gonna go Ravens Vikings. Oh Should have gone just say that is gross purple. That's out. That's it. Why would you do that ugly super? Why would you that was a vibe killer? Darn old he's Darnold guy all right Hank vibe booster yes lions bill yes yes mine yeah that's mine bills lions you got you got to just think about what like I am a neutral party in New Orleans and what do I want to see yes and it's bills and lions fans yes taking over Burby sneaky backup to bills lions in terms of fan bases

lion Steelers Steelers fans in New Orleans would be all time as well. That'd be something yeah Yeah, I mean bills lions. Okay. That's it. Maybe charges lines. Oh charge is real good. Hank would be Arthur meme I'm gonna go with That best thing for Barstool Eagle Steelers. Oh Stealer Wow, then I would we would have to go to the game. No, actually no, we be streaming Yeah, we would yeah, we stream back here that actually be great. So we come back I mean if it's Bill's lines, I think everybody's happy except Jerry go to the game

I think everybody's happy except not a lot Jerry go to the game That's like a once-in-a-lifetime stream Eagle Steelers would be Eagle Steelers put Gruden right in between the two of them I think Jerry would quit. I don't think he has an option. I think he quit I think he'd be like I'm gonna go work for mr. Peace. No, he could he could go to the parade. I Don't know the soup was also like the soup was also like I would you Dave's gone to all the Super Bowl Yeah, that's true Super Bowl Max. Would you I mean did you like going like would you rather watch it on TV? No, we're just Max I don't know for a loss the law sucks, but like I need to I need to be there for a win Yeah, that's true like you get like Hank

Fucking brags about the how many fucking after parties for the after party Greatest nights of my life all right, so the Celtics parade Yeah, Jerry would I think we'd have to like Hannibal Lecter put him in like a mask and like a gurney thing No, we you guys stream in New Orleans. Yeah, probably They would have to go to the game you guys just go to the game and I just want to watch them like I don't Rose behind them. Yeah, we're just saying things this show like they're fact We're just shit. We're scheduling out the first weekend of the NFL We're scheduling what we're gonna do if the Eagles Steelers playing the Super Bowl. Yeah, dude, let's just let's just go

It's called watch it. It's gonna use your imagination. Let's just watch dude, let's just let's just go. Let's just go watch it. It's called using your imagination Let's just watch it. Let's just let it let things happen. Oh Podcast we're definitely gonna come back to we're streaming here if it's Vikings Ravens. Oh my god, it's gonna be means what a dick It's gonna end up being Chiefs Packers and the Chiefs win again that would well the chiefs know Packers would be good because Chiefs would Chiefs winning beating the Packers would be awesome. I can't, Vikings, Ravens is just so... The Ravens... I don't even know what you just did memes.

The purple bowl. What does that mean? The purple bowl. I think the only... Can I make a bigger bummer? Oh yeah, Falcons, Texans. Falcons, Texans would be bummer city. I think the Vikings are out there as bummer oh yeah Falcons Texans Falcons Texans would be bummer city Vikings are actually bummer I actually think Seahawks Texans would be worse Seahawks Texans yeah would be just like

what chargers no chargers be great for you and me max correct ride or die guys Ride that thing. Mm-hmm. He's getting upset just thinking about it No, that's not it's not even ever thought I want the Charters Prove you wrong prove you wrong mister. All right, let's do who's back the week It is brought to you by our friends at Coors light Who's back the week brought to you by Coors light Coors Light. Who's back of the week brought to you by Coors Light. No matter what happens between your favorite rivals this week, you've got a chance to win. Just go to the PMT Instagram.

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Oh. PFT alluded to it earlier. And I don't know if it was just because I was home in Massachusetts for the weekend and and I was hearing the the local reports and propaganda, but I'm I'm I'm seeing some tweets. I'm seeing some reports. I'm seeing you know one sort of sisters looking at apartments and yeah The Mick Kirk minahan guy reported that he's a hundred percent signing with the Red Sox I saw a picture of one Soto at Hertz Renacar at Logan International Airport. Did you see that one?

I didn't see that one, but I, I've heard it's going to be as early as the middle of this week and I'm, I'm, I'm thrilled. His hair. Socks are back. Yeah. He's so he's, he's, he's been signing. His sister is. Yeah.

I mean, why would his sister be looking at, uh, places? Sure. It's always the real. It's a at place sure it's always the real it's a beautiful city It's always a real estate Does this have anything to do with our good friend Jerry Krabis trying to speak into an existence? What did he do? Oh, he's just been tweeting about it. I've just seen him. I've seen that's I've definitely been been brainwashed I definitely obviously follow a lot of you know Boston biased People in accounts, so that's definitely part of it But I've I've just convinced myself we're getting so though there is see oh

Yeah, oh yeah, holy shit one soda. That's his sister No, that's him Look at the hair. It's long hair guys Some of us have long hair yeah So congrats Hank. Thank you. That's huge. Yeah, I'm excited. I didn't even think we were going to be in the running, to be honest with you.

So the fact that we got him is great. You're in the conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Big stuff. OK, PFT? My Who's Back of the Week is rivalry trophies. Yeah.

I had this. Did you guys see the news coming out of UMass? Yes. So UMass and Yukon, they play their rivals, bit of rivals. Hank, you know, just as well as anyone. Um, there was a trophy that was made for the rivalry game. And I, I don't even think kids from Yukon or UMass care about this by the way, which is the funniest part. So after the game, they did not present the rivalry trophy to UConn. Is that correct?

No. So apparently the initial report was that UConn refused to accept it. And then Jim Moore Jr. was like, that's not true. We wanted it. They wouldn't give it to us. So now it's, uh, Jim said he was looking for the trophy after the game. Yeah. And they were told to get lost. And then UMass just put out a statement saying regarding yesterday's football game

and fan interest and presenting a trophy to the winner prior to the game, the two schools had not discussed awarding the trophy to the winning team or using the trophy in general as a symbol to a longstanding series. The trophy was provided to UMass for the first time earlier in the week, not leaving a lot of time to properly consider an official name, should have been the come-asst trophy, secure a mutually beneficial sponsor,

or execute a marketing plan. In addition, series results still need to be added to the base of the trophy. Both schools agree that celebrating our 78-game rivalry requires appropriate planning. So now they're asking for the trophy so that they can award it to Coach Mora and his team. We have no issue with this plan and for now we'll consider the trophy property of the two collectives to be used at their discretion.

Why did they give- It's a jug by the way, it's a cum jug. It's a cum jug. Yeah, yeah. Why did they not give the trophy? Why I don't understand how this got held. They made a trophy. Jim Moore, Jr. wanted the trophy. If you make a rivalry trophy, you have to be prepared to give it away. If you don't want to give it away, then you just do the Jim Harbaugh thing and you don't tell the

other team about it beforehand. Yeah. And then you just get to keep it if you win it. What was that line in there about? We weren't planning on this being a representative of this rivalry. Like I just love that Yukon's always in the middle of these. Yeah, it's obviously the civil conflict. My favorite trophy of all time. Is that dead by the way? Yeah. What the civil conflict is that still? Yeah. Well they don't I don't think they play. Uh, no like you trying to find it. Oh, I found it. The guy won't get the UCF has it I believe. I basically kicked the hornets nest that got it out from some guys garage who then donated it back to UCF. Which sucks because I should have been me. I should have had that trophy.

I would have put it, I would have had it in the front of the office encased and it would have been like the Clemson Rock. Everyone touches it when they come to work it would have been incredible but I fucking robbed it from me I gotta say this trophy looks like you got it from like a 1980s pottery barn yeah they could have put a little bit more time into the trophy yeah I mean how many times have these teams played when they have like a winning when both teams have a winning record you comes out a good year this year that would be interesting look up don't see like both both teams are both 100 what Jack Max gonna get on your ass no there you can't you can't football you can't football been very good this

I said both teams have a winning record yeah he clearly said both teams above 500 it doesn't know you comes having a good year the wood in this throw away looks like no you know football elementary school desk. Yeah. Yeah, UConn 8-4. They better get a bowl invite. That would suck if they don't. Do you automatically get one if you get six? Nope.

They have to. Because they're... So there are... Sometimes there's more bowl eligible teams than there are bowls, which is crazy. And UConn being an independent means they don't have a bowl tie-in so it's like a lot of these like remember when we had the Barstool Bowl and it was Mountain West versus Mack they're independent so they don't have an automatic bowl tie-in Yukon needs a bowl

it'll be bullshit if they don't get one they went eight and four this year put them in a bowl besides a six or six and sixteen crazy crazy it would be very funny if they got a bowl in Nebraska didn't just for yeah yeah by the way I know we're gonna do college on Wednesday but my who's back the week is Ryan Day because that was the worst loss I actually think that might have been the worst loss of all time in In the history of losses, I football games only, it was a loss that had me for the rest of the day muttering to myself. I can't believe they lost that game. Like the stakes of that

game, there were 20 point favorites. Ohio state is a loaded Michigan doesn't have an offense. They don't have a quarterback. Michigan, Michigan has had a a dogshit season and they still went in and bullied him in Columbus They have two not quarterbacks. It's crazy. It is wild and Michigan's office is so bad It looked like they were they were trying their best to give that game away Yeah, I'll stay in Ohio State couldn't do shit with it And then the the penalty on Ryan Day at the end of the game

Yeah shit with it. And then the penalty on Ryan Day at the end of the game. Yeah. Not good. Not a good way to end it. Not, not a good way to beat the fraud allegations. Ryan get Ryan day. Yeah. And then you almost called them Ryan. Ryan gay. You did. You were very cool. Pepper spray. Yeah. It was chaos. I mean, I love rivalry week. What are you going to say, Hank? You say the stakes of the game, but Ohio state is still going to make the playoffs and still can win the national champion. If Ohio State wins the national championship though, like we, you saw it tape came into the cave today. He's like, if we win the national championship, Michigan will just say they've won two in

a row because they beat us like that. The way the rivalry has gone the last four years and the way that Michigan beat them the last three years and then won a national title and the whole Connor Stallion shit and everything. It's it's it's not just one game. It's like the culmination of it all to get to that point where Ohio State was so much better and to lose that game. And now if they like, I think there's actually a decent amount of Ohio State fans that would be like, if we win the national championship game, this was still failure of a season because

we lost to Michigan. That's how much it means though to those people and for the fact that they have they have seniors that have never and and will never beat Michigan yeah, by the way, I know I had no problem with If you're a defensive player I think you're allowed to go fight over the flag and be like don't plant that flag Because the defense of Ohio State played tough the offense should not get to do that That was also Jason Avant Eagle Do you know that that's crazy that that was Jason Avant who was the one who took the flag back? I also think it's pretty funny that there. Yeah, isn't that crazy? He's like a sideline reporter for the Michigan

I think it's funny that they're fighting over planting a flag into an artificial surface field Yeah, you can't you can't plant a flag into Yeah, but that it was it was a bad scene for our state. They got humiliated. I don't know. Maybe I'm being reactionary Hank. It just feels like that was Ohio State had such a better team this year and Michigan was they weren't even trying this year. They didn't have a quarterback and To have that happen is crazy. What max we're gonna say It's definitely a failure of a season no matter and it's that is as devastating of a loss as you can get

How can you win a nap? That's crazy? You know this Hank what would happen what would happen if Ohio State won the national championship? How do you think Dave would react to that? I know how he reacts but it's like He's the embodiment of Michigan fans We still have the banner I would say in 30 years if I'm an Ohio State fan grad Nooooo When I go to bring my kids and I show them and say

And they're like daddy what happened that year? We must have killed Michigan Yeah because what happens is every time you bring up that national championship, it starts a story. Yeah. And the story is, yeah, we beat you guys. A national, we had the national, but to be like, we want a national championship in Michigan had a fucking dog shit year and they still beat you.

And it's also like, this was Michigan now has Bryce Underwood. Ohio state has to figure out what to do with Ryan Day. Like this was the year where you beat Michigan and then you go in a national title and all is restored in the world for our state. None of that happened. The Syracuse QB going off to as far. Yeah. Kyle McCord was so awesome. I think they would still love to win a national championship. They'd be very happy with it, but they also know as sweet. They also know that every time they bring it up, they're inviting Michigan fans to be like, we beat you. It would not feel as sweet preseason. If you, if you ask Ohio

state fans say you can win a national championship to lose in Michigan, they're saying no. A lot of them would say literally, he said that before the season starts. He's like, they had to beat Michigan. Beating Michigan is more important than winning a national championship. That's why college football's the best Yeah, I mean it makes no sense to me But do you think Dave is rooting for Ohio State to win the national championship now my no, you know that he can say No, I think I think he's rooting for them to get to like the semis or the final and then lose and Then he can be like man. We were like he's gonna root for Ohio State being like I just want the Buckeyes to be

Approach cuz he was doing him and he he kept on saying he's like this is bad for the rivalry Like the rivalries over because you couldn't beat us at our worst. This isn't a rivalry anymore. He's like that He was like, oh no, like he can't we can't have a rivalry with them anymore. Yeah, I'll say this I I respected what Ohio State did after the game was over in the same way I respect what the Jaguars did when they knocked out Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I have no problem. It's good to have a little fight I yeah, I like it. Uh, by the way, max you weren't here, but I threw out the take like Ryan day should be When he goes to bed at night, he should just thank his lucky stars that James Franklin exists

Because James Franklin is basically propped up Ryan day James Franklin's playing for a big time championship. I understand but you get what I'm saying. Ryan day has not beaten Michigan in four years but Ryan day always beats Penn State and they're like look at Ohio State we'd be better every year. It's just that's just how it goes. But it still doesn't matter like they don't care about Penn State. I understand. I'm saying more like Ryan Day can't win the big one. No, he beats Penn State Yeah, and then and then James Frank is like, oh James Franklin can't beat to win the big one Oh, no, he beats Iowa by 40. It's everyone but the big one. Yeah, I know Penn State and then in the big town Are you gonna go down? I

Was thinking about it. I want to I don't know I I don't know if you guys looked but on the DraftKings app Every single conference championship game this weekend is I think the biggest spread is four and a half. Oh, it's gonna be awesome I think Penn State Oregon's three and a half. It's gonna be such a big window max for you This would be the crown jewel of the big ones for James Franklin Yeah, it'd be the one seed maybe I still think it wouldn't be the same though because it's not Ohio State or Michigan. No, but this I feel like the big 10 championship. Hey, you don't understand. I would want to win a fucking like I don't care who I play in the Eastern Conference finals or the finals, a championships, a championship.

So excited, easy path to the fucking championship who cares It's different college Big 10 championship, but not if it's against Michigan like what no not if it's against it's a big 10 championship No, I mean it would be like I would like Penn State to win this one, but it still wouldn't it wouldn't feels good Yeah, if they beat Ohio State Penn State beat Wisconsin in the big 10 championship We're talking about beating it didn't play there. Hank, you don't know anything about the Blue Bloods. You want to beat a Blue Blood Big Ten Big One. I guess.

I kind of understand what you're saying. I just don't personally feel the same way. Rivalry Week rocks. This is what, the hatred is so, so deep. It's the best. Okay, good show boys. Good to be back. Should we do numbers? Memes will take 71. Pft 100.

What? Oh, is 100 in there? Is 100 in there? 17. It used to be. What do you mean it used to be? That old machine? 83.

Is 11. I believe it is in here. 100's in here? Yeah, I see it right here. It's right here. Okay, alright. 99. I think it's in here.

It's in here. It's in here. It's in here. It's in here. It's in here. It's in here. What do you mean it used to be that old machine 83 is 11 Okay, all right 99 poke I don't know what I said I'm changing mine 30 16 21 we got to figure out no no 30 just came down 12 came down. Uh, 12. Memes at 71, right? Yeah. Memes at 71. Jack, which one do you got? 16. Jackson, Michigan guy. Yeah. I want to ask him a question. 90.

Jack, Jack, explain to Hank, we were talking about Ohio State, Michigan, and I was saying that that is one of the most devastating losses, if not the most devastating loss of all time, because of what Ohio State had at stake, their team versus Michigan. Do you think that if Ohio State, you know Ohio State fans, right? If they win a national title, like it's not going to be as sweet because they lost to Michigan, right? Definitely. And do you know Ohio State fans? No, let me ask you this way. Do you know Michigan fans that are like, if we beat Ohio State, it doesn't matter if we win the national title or not?

Yeah. Like the rivalry means more than the national title, which is weird, but yes, definitely. Hank. I hear it. I hear you. You just, that doesn't make any sense. It makes some sense. It just doesn't make totals. Like I understand how much rivalries mean you can hang your hat on beating Michigan or beating Ohio State, but a national championship should trump that. I think for a lot of fans it does, but I think there's some fans that are like that, that was the end of their season.

I also think Michigan fans- Like if I was in Ohio State, then you're devastated, but I'm like, fuck it, we got to win the national championship now. I think Michigan fans and Ohio State fans, if they hadn't won a national championship recently then it might be a little bit different yeah where they're like yeah national championship is the goal but since they've accomplished that in their lifetimes and then the recent lifetimes then they're just like we want to beat a Rob didn't they lose when they blew the game against Georgia who Ohio State what do you mean the miss field goal?

Yeah, that was in the playoffs 2019 Ohio State Won national championships though. Well, what year was that CJ? CJ Stroud. Oh, so those that's about those 2020 or 21 22 so they lost to Michigan lost to Michigan that year if they'd won the national championship You think they would have been like, ah, well, we lost to Michigan they lost to Michigan that year if they'd won the national championship You think they would have been like how well we lost to Michigan so this sucks Yeah, I think I I think they not as bad as this one. This one is yeah I mean this one is the culmination dogs and stuff But and also it's the like Connor Stallion's Michigan winning last year Jack. Where'd you watch the game?

Did you we was that like a game that you'll remember forever? 100% yes, that was unbelievable. Yeah. You never thought they were going to win that game. I planned on turning it off at halftime. Yeah. And then they just bullied them again. They bullied them again. That was crazy. It also has to do with like they it's now four years in a row. right? What's like? They have no argument right even it even if they get because Michigan just won the natty They don't even have that argument, right? Mm-hmm, right and It feels like Ohio State is in a crisis and Michigan had a one down year and they're gonna be back next year Like you had the moment here's the thing

The best part about winning a championship is that you can be like, you guys can't tell me anything. I'm the champion of the world. And guess what? Michigan can tell them. So it's a perfect. Yeah. You're put it perfectly. There's one fan base that can tell you that. And it's the worst. And it's the one that you don't want to have anything to say. Yep. All right. We'll talk more college football on Wednesday. See you guys then. So So I'm gonna be a good boy, I'm gonna be a good boy So Thanks for watching!