Pardon My Take - NFL Week 13 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Admitting The Vikings Are Good, Joe Burrow Owns The Chiefs And More

Episode Date: December 5, 2022

We start with the fastest 2 minutes from Week 13 then recap every game (00:01:53-00:07:41). Vikings 27, Jets 22 (00:07:41-00:21:32) Packers 28, Bears 19 (00:21:32-00:30:59) - Commanders 20, Giants... 20 (00:30:59-00:40:18:29) Eagles 35, Titans 10 (00:40:18:29-00:47:37) Lions 40, Jaguars 14 (00:47:37-00:54:04) Browns 27, Texans 14 (00:54:04-00:58:21) Steelers 19, Falcons 16 (00:58:21-01:03:01) Ravens 10, Broncos 9 (01:03:01-01:09:21) Seahawks 27, Rams 23 (01:12:44-01:15:53) Raiders 27, Chargers 20 (01:15:53-01:18:59) Niners 33, Dolphins 17 (01:18:59-01:25:20) Bengals 27, Chiefs 24 (01:25:20-01:31:27) We finish with football guy of the week (01:31:27-01:41:08) and who's back of the week (01:41:08:03-01:57:29)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take week 13 of the NFL, we're going to recap every game. Fastest two minutes. We're going to also talk maybe a little college football playoffs. We got that finally playoffs. World Cup World Cup football guy of the week.
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Starting point is 00:02:25 I got to be careful of my voice there, teach. We start in Minneapolis, where Mike Vanna White turned over a few INTs, one of which went to noted Kanye West hater Harrison Ford Smith. The Jets had a chance late when Braxton Barrios was in the neighborhood of a game-winning catch but just couldn't bring it in. And the words of Jesse Pinkman, the Vikings can't keep getting away with this. The Vikings 27, Jets 22, the Minnesota Vikings are 10 and 2, huh? Sticking on the enough she-north where Deandre Taylor Swift remembered in Jamal too well,
Starting point is 00:03:09 Williams as both running back scored and the Lions are partying like it's 1989. Trevor Florence and the machine saw Aiden Hutchinson's family in the box and started coming fast for your mother, fast for your father. Tandy Lion coach has turned this team from a weed into a flower and Detroit didn't hear no Campbell on this season. The Lions 40, the Jaguar 14. In Chicago, Justin Yeals didn't see a stop sign on his first quarter touchdown as the Bears were off and running until they weren't.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Christian DeSean Watson saw a pair of TDs and couldn't help himself doing some very despicable, reprehensible things resulting in a Packers happy ending. I regret to inform the viewing public that Aaron Rodgers still owns me and is my daddy. Sui season is here. Packers 28, Bears 19. Oh, easy there Terry Bradshaw. I want to jump off the cliff. In Atlanta, where Najae better called Becky with a good Harris ran through the Atlanta
Starting point is 00:04:09 defense making lemonade out of lemons for Petschberg this season. Connor, carry on my hey word son, scored and told Steelers fans, don't you cry, don't you cry, don't you cry, don't you cry, don't you cry no more. As they've now won consecutive games for the first time this season, the lone highlight for the Falcons was like a lump of my coal in their stocking as Pruitt scored, but Atlanta slipped a five and eight Steelers 19, the Falcons 16. In Philadelphia, AJ Brown Bear, Brown Bear, what do you see, I see two touchdowns looking at me.
Starting point is 00:04:51 U.S. Virgin Miles Sanders had a touchdown carry, Ibn and the Eagles were high flying all afternoon. The Hennessy Titans took another shot, but if anyone's thinking they're not going to win this division, go home. You're drunk. The Eagles absolutely obliterate the Titans, 35, 10. In New York, the Meadowlands, Tyler Tyneke and Brian Drobinson clashed off against Stale Made of Kwan Barkley.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Much like Curtis Samuel's hair, this game was dreadlocked as 60 minutes wasn't enough to find the winner. As we head to overtime, it was a punt bat, but the Giants had a chance until Graham Gano once winning this game, missed the kick, and much for the confusion of Donovan McNabb, this game ended in a tie. Commanders, 20, Giants, 20, you say 60 minutes, in Baltimore where Sussell Wilson struggled against man to man D as a Broncos laid another offensive egg. Lamar Jackson went out with an injury, leaving the Ravens with an odd future as Tyler the
Starting point is 00:06:03 creator, Huntley, took over a quarterback and immediately said, this buddy Russell trying to get grown, you could fit 57 bitches all in his bath room. As he led the Ravens to a late victory, Ravens 10, Broncos 9, out west where Jimmy G went down for the season. Here I am, Brock, you like a Purdy Kane. As Mr. Alvin came in relief to save the day, the Dolphins broke up with their losing ways. Here's their winning coaches number, Syke McDaniel, he may be a loser too. Christian McAfeteria had a full plate of offensive touchdowns, and Jerry Thornton might
Starting point is 00:06:47 be blogging about this one, because the teacher couched and fucked the student Mike McDaniel in a whopping. We finish in Cincinnati where Somaji P. Ryan Glossling looked really good out there, totaling 150 yards from scrimmage. The Chiefs thought they were stepping in the jungle, but it turned out to be Jurassic World as Jermaine Chris Pratt punched out of Travis Kelsey Fumble and T. Rex Higgins scored a huge touchdown. Cincinnati has ascended to the 7th level of Scientology as Sam L. Ron Hubbard in the
Starting point is 00:07:24 Bengals' defense, locked up the Chiefs' offense, stashing them away like they were Shelly Miss Gavage. The Bengals, 27, the Chiefs, 24. That is week 13, fastest two minutes, brought to you by our friends at Chevy, the commanding unstoppable Chevy Silverado. Learn more at chevy.com, tell them PMT sent you, the Chevy Silverado is the greatest truck ever created. Again, learn more at chevy.com.
Starting point is 00:07:51 All right, week 13 in the books, we're watching the Cowboys actually kind of struggle a little bit with the Colts. Yeah. I mean, it's my cause, my cleats for Jeff Saturday. Yeah. Cleats on the grass or on the turf. Cleats on the grass. The Cowboys were in their awful uniform or helmets with the French flag.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Let me stop you real quick here. That's actually honoring Medal of Honor recipients this week. I mean, we all had the same reaction. I was going to roast it. We roasted it in this room. Oh, I can roast it. And then I was like, wait a second. Let me look this up.
Starting point is 00:08:24 This sounds like they're honoring somebody. The honor stands. Maybe honor them with better helmets. Yeah, right. Don't look. Make the star red, white, and blue. I kind of agree that there's no worse way to honor somebody from the United States military than by putting a French flag on a helmet.
Starting point is 00:08:38 It's a bad honoring. You could do a lot better job honoring the Medal of Honor recipients with the Cowboys helmet. The star is right there. Mm-hmm. Maybe do 50 little stars. That would be cool. 50 stars would be great.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, like the Buckeyes helmet. That would be cool. Or just have the medal itself be on the side of the helmet because the main feature of it is a star. It's a star, right? Yeah. So there you go. There's way better ways.
Starting point is 00:09:04 How soft do you think that Kyler Murray is that he's not being honored during Medal of Honor night? He's very confused. He's like, oh, these are for me. Oh. Sweet badge. So we will update as that game goes final. Let's get into the games.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Week 13, stretch run, starting to figure out some things. Yeah. When you say week 13, that hurts. That's the first time this season that just saying the week makes it seem real to me. When I realized that we had five games left, oh, yeah, yeah, and fuck that. Our teams, PFT, the commanders and bears, I think we have a buy next week, so we have four games left. Yeah, this bus.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's kind of crazy. It's coming out a weird time. I felt like the buys should all be over by now. When the buys are this late, I just forget there's a buy. Yeah. It's too late for a buy. But either way, we are down the home stretch. Let's get into the games.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Jonathan Taylor just fumbled Vikings 27 Jets 22. We have to start here. The Minnesota Vikings are 10 and two. They just keep doing this. They keep doing this and there's nothing we can say other than they are what their record says. They are their 10 and two team. They got out game by 200 yards by the Jets, but I'm not saying that they didn't deserve
Starting point is 00:10:20 to win because their defense did stand up big time in like some big time red zone situations down the stretch. Harrison Smith was incredible. It's just the Vikings like this might just be their season. So we talked about the point differential and I'm still waiting to get an update on that. How that compares to all the 10 and two teams of all time because there haven't been that many 10 and two teams.
Starting point is 00:10:41 The Vikings are very good. Don't get me wrong. This game proved to me something about the Vikings and maybe I'm being the bigger man of the situation. I think it's actually good that the Vikings are winning all these like super close games and not blowing anybody out. I actually think like learning how to win in weird ways when you get to the fourth quarter and you have you have all these plays that could go either way constantly all that high
Starting point is 00:11:07 pressure practice that they're getting in during the regular season is going to be very good for them in the playoffs. And sometimes you see with teams that are just like blowing the doors off everybody. They get to the playoffs and all of a sudden they just forget they don't know how to close in a tight pressure pack situation. Yeah the Vikings are nine and 0 and one score games. It's insane. I am also at the point now we've set our piece but at some point like the amount of wins
Starting point is 00:11:30 that they've racked up the way they've won these games like maybe it's just their year and I'm not I don't want to go that far but like it's now become every single week they find a way to win a game like Kirk Cousins didn't have a great game today. He had a great game last week against the Patriots like the defense stood up. It's little things that they just find a way to win games. They sweep the AFC West which a lot of people would say is the best division in football right now. They sweep the AFC West.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Kevin O'Connell also is now five and 0 in all revenge games. So he was part of Detroit Miami Washington New York and are the Jets and the Patriots. He's five and 0 against those teams. I just don't at this point like I don't want to concede but I'm going to be I'm going to do a half concession and just be like Vikings fans. Your team is obviously good in doing something right. There's nothing I can say like you can't I'm not going to blindly just I would. I still think a lot of their wins are fluky but at some point when you have 10 wins you
Starting point is 00:12:34 have 10 wins. So it's like you can't if you have 10 fluky wins are still 10 fucking wins and you found a way to win 10 games. No the Vikings are good and I'm sure that they're the fact that their kicker has missed more extra points this season than anybody else in the NFL. That's that's probably not going to come back to haunt them at any point. No no definitely. No I think the Vikings are a very good team.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They are they are actually the AFC East champions. Yeah they've beaten every team in the AFC East right now which many would consider to be the strongest division in football. So that's a great point because that's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. No I'm saying like they they could be considered to be playing in maybe the worst division in football.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I don't know if you're fucking with me. What are you talking about. I just said that. Oh sorry I was looking up because I didn't know if you're fucking with me. You said the West. No I said the AFC East. They've won the best division in football. Oh we're in the whole AFC.
Starting point is 00:13:28 When you were listing those teams I was like wait a second. That's also the Kevin O'Connell sweep as well. But they have beaten the whole AFC East. Okay yeah yeah. Four and oh best division in football. Incredible. They're at some point I'm half hand up. Half hand up for being like half wrong that the Vikings at some point I have to concede
Starting point is 00:13:46 something. Oh listen. I actually I do think the fact that they're that they're winning all these close games is going to be huge. They're going to win probably their first round playoff game. They're going to they're going to do something big in the playoffs because they're used to being in these close situations. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You know what. Here's what I'll say about the Vikings. They're battle tested. They are very battle tested. Kevin O'Connell is a very good coach. Yep. And like I said they didn't Kirk Cousins. One great.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I think they they had three good drives today. The other nine drives they had like 65 total yards. So in the Jets totally outgained him. I thought the Jets defense played well but like it was one of those games that Mike White he made more plays than I think Zach Wilson would have made. But he just there's a couple of times where he just like a couple costly turnovers Braxton Berrios catches that ball. It's a different game.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I think that Mike White he didn't play bad enough to lose his job. Yeah. And that's that's kind of all that you're hoping. Well and also the entire team wearing Mike White shirts means that like I don't think you can go back. It's a pretty it's a significant statement that they were making because I don't recall. I think CJ Usama at one point were like I like Zach Wilson because he's fucking Milf's shirt.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yes. Or somewhere along those lines. Like that's the best. That's the closest that the locker room has come to like uniting behind Zach Wilson is when there was a rumor that he was having sex with an old woman. Right. And they're like that's kind of cool. But they've never gone out there and like stuck their necks out to be like we like Zach
Starting point is 00:15:10 in the same way that they're kind of getting into Mike White mania was Mike White mania is going on the plane. White sanity. I don't know how Zach Wilson. I mean it's would you agree. I think maybe next year maybe this year no chance. I think they're going to end up trading him. I wouldn't be surprised because the way the teams unite behind Mike White.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I mean Garrett Wilson I think tweeted or said in post game I'll go to I'll go to work. I'll get to work something special about that boy talking about Mike White. He played a decent game. He didn't have total collapse that a lot of people are saying oh you know Mike White's good one game. Then he's going to be bad the next game which we saw last year. Yeah. Two picks.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I kind of hope that this type of game was more just facing a better opponent and trying to get the offense in rhythm and then maybe something special is going to happen up in Buffalo next week. So I mean I wasn't able to watch the game live. I took and looked over all of it. I think it's a little more of just getting everything in motion. I love Billy because he doesn't get upset for long about any loss. He's already just like the most optimistic person next week.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Something magical is going to happen. Also credit to you for being honest you didn't watch the game. I didn't watch it live. Yeah. I was keeping up with it. Right. You know once I got I was doing a video PMT TV coming out this Friday. We were actually joking PFT and I during the stream I think next year we're going
Starting point is 00:16:28 to pick one Monday night game and not watch it and not look at the box score and not do anything and then do a show and people have to decide which one that was just to give like hot takes based based on a group of numbers. It also will just be so telling because our takes are usually so bad that people will just be like that's the game you didn't watch. That's the game. Oh yeah. No we haven't done it yet.
Starting point is 00:16:50 There'll be several candidates for the not watched game of the year. So Billy first of all congratulations on not lying about that. That's growth right there. Yeah. I mean that's all. Thank you for meeting that. I just I want to acknowledge that though because Billy could have very easily lied about that and only we would have.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Play it off. Yes. No I mean I watched enough. Okay. Now you're starting this. Yeah. Okay. But I Billy the Jets defense is still very good like like I said night there was three
Starting point is 00:17:17 drives three touchdown drives I think for the Vikings and the other nine drives they basically shut them down. I I don't know. I mean the fight. The lies are more. I'm at a loss. It's fucking good. So the Vikings are decent but their defense is it's suspect.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Very suspect. Very suspect like Elijah Moore was run wild back there for a little bit. Mike White you Mike White did look halfway decent against you but on the other hand you won the game. You figure out a way to win. You won without Kirk Cousins best performance. He was shaky but like not awful. I think about it like over eight I think the thing about Kirk Cousins though is rebounded
Starting point is 00:17:52 they've they've raised his floor. Yeah. A little bit like Kirk Cousins. He's not he'll never be as bad as he was in the past when you got bad Kirk. Yeah. Now it's just like you've got you've got like slightly below average Kirk Cousins and then pretty good Kirk Cousins. It actually this game was a perfect like encapsulation of the ceiling or the floor being raised for
Starting point is 00:18:14 Kirk Cousins because he started the game one for eight for four yards and then he ripped off a 13 for 16 streak. Yeah. So it's like you saw it and that usually was a game that Kirk just it all unravels and it all becomes bad and it's just like all right the Vikings have no chance today. He rebounded played well Vikings are fucking good. I can't really say much more. The only gripe that I have with Kirk Cousins that he's a bad influence on our youth before
Starting point is 00:18:38 the game they had a little child that was emulating Kirk and his chains that was just shirtless on the sideline wearing all these gold change being being interviewed. And then he was like in the stands also. It's disgusting. It's disgusting what Kirk's doing that sneak peek to football guy of the week. That kid has been a huge mascot for the Vikings ever since that video came out and is one of the reasons why U.S. Bank Stadium is one of the hardest places to play. That child is because they've got they've got a lot of shirtless wearing chains that
Starting point is 00:19:08 child Balenciaga put that shit on in the stadium gets everyone so hyped up like U.S. Bank is the 12th boy. Yeah. But last thing on the Jets offense I'm a little concerned with how many times Mike White's throwing the ball. We saw this 57. Yeah. We saw that early in the seat.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Flacco. Yeah. Flacco. At some point if you're Zach Wilson aren't you like why don't they ever ask me to throw the ball like an insane amount of time if the shirts didn't tell you this does. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that we need something's going on with the run game.
Starting point is 00:19:38 We got to establish the run game and you know missing why am I blanking out on his name who went out earlier this season. Bree Saul. Bree Saul has had a serious impact on our offense. Yeah. We'll see what's going on. It's fair. We actually just stumbled around the exact correct thing that you just have to say is
Starting point is 00:19:58 we have to establish the run. Yeah. If you say we have to establish the run then everything then guess what happens after that play action opens up and then that's how you talk about football without actually like knowing about football. It's so awesome. Stop the run and run the ball. But seriously.
Starting point is 00:20:12 We need to run the ball. No you're right. No you're right. You're absolutely right. You know what. Run the damn ball. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Just run the damn ball. Maybe we convert in the red zone if we have a better run game. Yeah. Five straight field goals. Yeah. They just keep on getting in the red zone and kicking field goals. Last thing I had on this game Alexander Madison took the fake injury touchdown celebration to the next level.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He went he went down on all fours and started humping. I am just so excited for the time that someone actually is injured and people like everyone like piles on him. He's like no I'm actually injured. Yeah. Because it's gone. We know it because we've seen it now every single week the fake injury the gritty to the fake you know hamstring but someone's actually going to get hurt it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I don't root for injuries but I root for that one. I think that's that seems like a Falcons injury to happen and then they get like an unsportsman like conduct penalty which then affects the following kickoff which then affects the return and then they end up losing the game because the person had a serious injury that everybody thought was fake. Yes. Yes. It's happening.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It's coming. Okay. The Vikings are good. They put it out. They're a good team. They're 10 wins. They almost clinched the NFC North today. The Lions won so that they're going to have to wait a week.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I think if they beat the Lions next week they officially clinched the NFC North. The Vikings if they if if the Lions lose any more games then they play next week. Yeah. But like any more for the rest of the season then the then the Vikings will clinch the division. Yes. Yes. So all right.
Starting point is 00:21:45 The Knackers 28 Bears 19. That sucked. I don't really that sucked. Yeah. It's not not the result that you want Justin Fields keeps every week Justin Fields figures out a way to make a play that you're like holy shit that's better than any quarterback I've ever seen not named Mike Vic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Couple bombs to like just drops in a bucket then he had the two interceptions in the fourth not great. Aaron Rodgers hiled Hitler. We all saw it with our own two eyes. Did you see a Billy. He did it. He held Hitler in front of the entire stadium. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I was it was shocking. It was very shocking. It's definitely not just a screenshot. He's saluted. He did hold it very long. He did. It was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:28 He held it for a very long time. It was a long hold. For sure. Yeah. I mean he did. He did. He did. I held it for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I saw the screenshot. He held it for a very long time. I just think that it's good that you guys keep losing though. It's okay. So I wanted to win this game obviously but there's also like the Bears are in a real like quandary where if they even win one more game they could drop like four spots in the draft. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So having the second pick especially if the idea is to trade it for more picks like I wanted to win the game. I'm not going to pretend I didn't want to win the game. I'm not going to I'm not going to let myself off the hook and be like I want the draft pick now that like we're five six hours after it. I'm like OK the draft pick is still nice. Let's get the second pick. Let's trade.
Starting point is 00:23:15 We got a million holes. That's the only way. Yeah. But it did suck in the moment to watch Aaron Rodgers do the same thing. He was clean shaven. He was missing guys. He looked like shit. And then Christian Watson is like the fastest guy ever ever.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Christian Watson is incredible. I just think that you get to at least enjoy if you're not in the in the hunt graphic. You are in the bizarro version of that which is the mock top 10 of the NFL draft. As you're getting close to the end of the year. Yes. Each time you lose a game that does wonders for you. You can move up and down so quickly based on the records of everybody else. So I think just like just just accept the fact that like a top three pick is much much
Starting point is 00:23:55 better than getting like two meaningless wins over the next few games. I think it's actually I'm looking at it right now. If the Bears had won this game today they would have gone from the second pick in the draft to the ninth pick. That's a pretty significant drop. So that's what I got to just I got to print it out put it under my pillow. Just go to sleep with the with the mock draft and just be like oh this is nice. I just have I can just cry myself to bed that way.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And Justin Fields I would like for us to maybe win one game if it didn't hurt the draft bit because these fourth quarters where it's like let's do it and then it just always ends in not doing it. It sucks to watch. That's what that's what I was going to ask obviously you've established Justin Bears the guy Justin bears I like Justin bears Charlie the Charlie factory Justin Fields is the guy you're you're riding with him no matter what he's had three or four fourth quarters where it's like they're down within a score.
Starting point is 00:24:51 All he has to do is drive them even to get a field goal and they can win the game and he hasn't done it once he needs that he needs that concern he needs to put teams away like he did on Monday football against Patriots because then you don't have to get in that situation. Good point. That's that's that's a totally fair point that right there was when it was like two most passive aggressive people in the world talking sports to each other if you put away early you don't have to win late that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:25:21 But when you every day like playoff games are close yes and you don't want to guys kind of throw seven interceptions every single time. I am there's a little tiny bit of concern here and there every now and then but then I just have to remind myself he's throwing to no one Darnell Mooney his best receiver is hurt he got hurt last game he didn't play today like there's just not in the offense Luke Getze the offensive coordinator I think he's actually trying to think because some of his play calling makes absolutely no sense they had a first and goal from the 20 because there was penalties and he went pitch left pitch left for one yard one yard yeah so then
Starting point is 00:25:57 you had third and goal from the 20 he also had Justin Fields through a dime down the sideline 40 50 yard gain they're in the red zone or right outside the red zone and who dac just through a bad pick receiver might have gone down falling down anyway they he throws it he throws a dime they're in the they're in like the 30 ish range and it's third and five and instead of throwing the ball they run it up the middle of David Montgomery for no gain and then the field will get blocked so I don't really know like I think maybe the offensive coordinator Luke Getze is saying like let's just keep losing for the tankathon but because some of these play calls make no sense the the tosses on the goal line are
Starting point is 00:26:35 the most frustrating play calling the entire world yeah plays it take forever to develop it's like a short side yeah if they're if they're on a goal a goal on set and they run a toss play that almost pisses me off more than like a fourth and one around midfield where they run like a toss play that takes forever to help right I hate those you're so close just like just I bet you Justin Fields could gain an average of three and a half yards per carry out a quarterback sneak yeah every time he's so yeah you know what's what's starting to piss me off a little bit about Justin Fields nothing to do with his play the visor that he wears yeah it's a it's like a light purple visor it's like a misted it's
Starting point is 00:27:12 a mist it's not it's not like fully tinted it's like a purple mist to it you'll have to get rid of it it seems strange to win a Super Bowl do you feel that in the play calling that they're taking care of Justin Fields better in a sustainable play calling no I think they're I think they're they know the limitations of the roster so they're very scared to do a lot of things and well I think that's really what it comes out but you think they're gonna run to the ground no no no they the design runs aren't like his touchdown run wasn't a designed run today that was just fuck I got a hole let's go I just think they're like they aren't they they actually might be trying to help him by not putting them
Starting point is 00:27:49 in like the you know third and longs or second and longs being like hey let's pass it pass pass pass instead trying to run and maybe get a few yards I don't know it's it makes no sense I think they're trying to lose this game was frustrating Aaron Rodgers is my daddy I don't I can't say anything about it but guess what dude you have a clean shaving face and I saw you do highlight well except for the mustache part he left just a tiny bit of much tiny bit there a little bit it was kind that tends to happen some and I will be the bigger man for content and I will reach out to Aaron Rodgers and see if he will do one question with a quarterback this week that's that's huge so yeah what's the one
Starting point is 00:28:27 question gonna be if I mean we've my favorite Kanye West song yeah you've said a lot of things about him so far yeah yeah oh yeah this is this is your you know what big cats gonna go death con three on Aaron Rodgers I didn't say anything that I didn't see with my own two eyes he held the salute for a while he did there's a stiff arm and he's just relishes and beating the pairs eight in a row he relishes he you know he does I personally loves it goodness for you is that they were it looked to me like Justin Fields is pretty healthy today yeah and there was a lot of questions about about like how his shoulder was gonna be everything about him look you could not point to Justin Fields performance they'd be like that guy's injured
Starting point is 00:29:04 yeah at all yeah which I I trusted they would do because the one nice thing about having a new front office and a new coach is they won't play Justin Fields to try to save their jobs you know I mean like if we were at that if this was the end of the Navy era like he would probably play a hurt Justin Fields trying to get five or six wins to save his job I trust that they're gonna play him only when he's healthy yeah and that game sucks and that's all I got and I hope Packers fans you fucking sickos and perverts you just love this so much you got what you wish for there's nothing I can say another year this is like I said eight in a row and also the Packers passed the Bears for all-time wins in NFL
Starting point is 00:29:44 history well that's a tough one yeah although that's that is so stupid it's just whoever's been around long yeah but also guess what you guys had the record for like a hundred years yeah I know I know Hank but guess what Aaron a long time Aaron Rodgers is about to retire that's true and then I'm aware bear it just think of how much sweeter be when the Bears surpassed them true fact probably next year good point probably next year yeah they would actually hold the record the all-time record for the shortest amount of time holding the record yes for most wins in NFL history thank you yep you got it thanks just salty because he holds the record for never getting the lottery ball correct uh commanders some say
Starting point is 00:30:21 it'll never be broken never be broken it will never you know what I we decided I think you were eating dinner in the bathroom but I I told hey wait wait wait what was that you're eating dinner in the bathroom I was eating dinner in the bathroom or in or in the bathroom I heard I heard the or I heard the okay yeah I said the or I mean he's got you a little fucked up is there a camera in there yeah yeah it's Panama actually Panama yeah Panama's got you a little fucked up uh I told Hank if he doesn't get the lottery ball by January 1st I will I think we should both will double it both so 10 grand 20 grand and he gets to go in the entire lottery ball we'll do every single ball and if the last ball remaining
Starting point is 00:31:01 is 17 he gets 20 grand yeah oh hell yeah yeah easily it's a great live stream no chance he's gonna yeah it'll 17 will be the first ball it'll be great it'll be fun I'm down for that okay commanders 20 Giants 20 yep hi big tie huge we tied the shit out of the Giants today they didn't tie us this is like you a week for your team's time it's like USA England all over again this was a statement tie by the Washington Commander's Day we did it without Chase Young who's being held out and which by the way I think that we should become a team grass podcast because you're starting to see that catch on like put players on safer fields top and Matthew Stafford it's a moving offense alignment are getting really
Starting point is 00:31:40 into it now I'm not exactly sure why it's safer to play on grass but I just know that a lot of players are starting to say it and we should get on their side so we can be like we're on the right side of history yes so no more synthetic fields none played the games the way God invented football to be played which is on grass yes I wrote a blog about this turf might also cause cancer oh so I have I have seen that pretty much anything cool causes cancer I like that not turf turf's not cool so the black pellets is where you're talking about there was a study that was done for like youth goalies in soccer gets in the cuts and yeah it's like rubber from tires that can get in your cuts and it's a jury
Starting point is 00:32:19 still out though on that one but we're keeping an eye on it I saw the evidence we're keeping an eye on it so you guys tie in a it was so perfect that you tied because we've said this going into this home stretch for the Giants and the commanders whoever can find a way to win both of these games will hope will be in the playoffs and then you're like yeah that's the plan yeah let's tie yep so so in this game it was going to be very much like whoever wins this game probably going to make the playoffs we didn't even think about the possibility of what would happen for a tie everybody was doing the outcomes of of wins or losses for the next two games and I think I I mean it's kind of it's kind
Starting point is 00:32:55 of like soccer to a certain extent where we got a result on the road now we get to go home a ties is good when on the road I just hate ties because they just break my brain when I'm trying to figure out play off seating so it I would care about it a little bit more if it was the first tie of the season yeah the first side of the season is always magical the second one is just like very unsatisfying you get some players that that are confused after the game you don't know because in football if you win it's like the best feeling ever yeah if you lose it's the worst feeling ever people in the locker room are just very confused as to what emotion they should be processing yes I think if you're on a good team and you
Starting point is 00:33:32 tie it probably sucks yeah you'd probably rather lose than tie if you're on a great team just for that at least at least you feel something and like you said the Giants were up 20 to 13 in the fourth quarter with like five minutes left yeah so they got tied yeah so we tied them yeah right right I give us the nod on this one on that tie John Dodson is such a beast that touchdown at the end of the game was incredible awesome Brian McLaurin is awesome Brian Robinson had another great game also Daniel Jones feels like he like they they went back to like hey let's run this guy yeah because maybe he's not the best pass or ever but he's he had a great game overall like he was actually it was the first
Starting point is 00:34:07 time Daniel Jones is look like the Daniel Jones we saw at the beginning of this season you know in what like three or four weeks we're like oh this Giants team is frisky because Daniel Jones is playing well I'm going to say one nice thing about Brian Dabell and then one not so nice thing about him nice thing I really think that he's going to make the best Santa Claus ever when he gets dressed up for like the team party he's going to pull that off incredibly can't wait for that content the not so nice thing is he really pussied out in overtime yeah with the punt that he called yeah and we've been very nice to Brian Dabell on this show we've given a lot of credit for like end of game scenarios current
Starting point is 00:34:41 he's seemed like he is really really practiced a lot of the logistics and tactics that go into like closing out a game if you have a team that's not going to blow anybody out he's great at that it was fourth and three on the Washington forty five yard line minute forty two seconds remaining in overtime a tie game twenty to twenty and he decided to punt the ball away he basically like my team sucks that's pretty much what he's saying but earlier in the season when it came time to go for it especially like two point conversions that sort of thing he was like fuck it let's do this let's go for it in this situation he doesn't have that same energy as he had like earlier in the season I feel like Brian Dabell
Starting point is 00:35:23 had the expectations were lower than they are right now right so he was coaching actually in a much more aggressive I in a style that I like better than he has been coaching recently where now he's got the expectation so it's like trying to preserve the good thing that he's built right instead of trying to go out there and get the good thing right he's like hey we have seven wins if we tie this game like we still we're just one win away from being five hundred yeah like that's a yeah he's trying to hold on to like what they had at the beginning of the season exactly so I think that's really what I mean that's not what cost the team the game but at that point as a commander's fan I was like this is awesome
Starting point is 00:36:01 well I got he's doing this I get it in just the fact that you don't get it it's now a loss but yeah I mean you're basically saying I don't want to win yeah so I don't know Hank as a new as a new member of the command wagon left hand up or I think there's a left hand up I think that was an impressive comeback you should be happy with that tie okay if that makes sense good I'm giants of your Giants fan that's a disappointing tie yeah commanders fans as we are yep that's a good tie yeah so in overtime I've made the offer I was both teams can't win a tie I said Giants fans I will I'm here by accepting this tie you know like in that in chess sometimes you offer your opponent to draw that's what I was doing
Starting point is 00:36:40 at that point because I was happy with the tie like suckers they took it yeah they were gonna kick my ass idiots they were gonna beat the shit out of me if they didn't take that tie idiots the Giants that the their their clock management the end of the game was horrible yeah horrible and we also learned Brian Dabel was a safety in college I didn't realize that's fucking hilarious yeah just thinking about him as a safety is so funny yeah really there's a bowling ball coming down in the box yeah I was pre-targeting like you I feel like he was just going head first the guy's had dive into people yeah and yeah I mean it was it was a perfect perfect tie it was also a brutal loss for anyone who bet
Starting point is 00:37:17 the over although we told you PFC and I both had the under told you this is a sunny day New York Giants under but to have 26 points in the first half for an over under 40 and a half and then have it go into over overtime and all you need is a score that's it that sucked that's it that sucked Taylor Heineck he will not be getting the Jordans this week that would be bullshit if he got him after a tie even though we did tie them you should get like Steph Curry's yeah well I said he should get like a red and blue pair of underarmers yeah right just real trash shoes yeah but yeah I'll take this tie I'll take this tie both teams very firmly still in the playoff picture right now and I guess we're gonna find out
Starting point is 00:37:58 more in two weeks yeah yeah you gotta buy and then you're right back at it chase young returning thank God they should really play it like a skins game in golf what do you mean like yeah yeah yeah yeah why not it carries over they both agreed to it they're like hey the winner of this next game gets both yeah I agree that that absolutely should be the rule I you if you tie someone in your own division in the first game the second game decides the time yep I agree I'll be so electric either that this is a two game there's a two game game or if it's like in soccer where road points count yeah extras yeah that either way I that would be imagine just like tuning in and being like whoever wins this game gets
Starting point is 00:38:34 two wins mm-hmm that would fucking it'd be the game with the most implications of all time it would be shake might actually get a flex correct I would oh by the way we have mega flex week coming out mega flex week because there's gonna be you're going one by the way I don't know one and one he got a title off he got to actually tell you what Jake if you win this next one then your tie flex counts as a win yeah okay well I can make the announcement later but week 15 the deadline is Tuesday there's three Saturday games none of them have been placed yet what do you mean so they're gonna be moving three Saturday games wait there's five games on the schedule with TBD three of them we're gonna be moved to
Starting point is 00:39:13 Saturday what wait so the teams don't know yet 17th correct that's crazy yeah that's kind of fucked so it's like so you could go in a run here yeah we got you could get a potential regular flex plus three moveable super you like so far are you looking at I think the Giants commanders are the heavy favorite to be the Saturday night game mm yeah yeah that's a big market yeah York and I think dolphins bills could take out Patriots Raiders for Sunday night I would definitely but the only hesitance is that would be double flex for the dolphins back to back well they did that with the chargers yeah so that's gonna be that's my best flex okay past flex flex be Fodee I like it be Fodee yeah okay that's flex okay anything else
Starting point is 00:40:03 oh Cowboys are low key clowning yeah this is the Colts gave a spirited effort turns out they're still bad yeah it was nice when we were like oh Jeff Saturday like they got competently less bad but they're still are bad they're hanging in there I think that no matter what happens from here on out we can all agree that it's been more fun having Jeff Saturday correct then it would be having Gus Bradley or John Fox yes yes absolutely all right next up talking about clowning Eagles 35 Titans 10 AJ Brown revenge game just absolutely clown the Titans I this is the Titans are one of those teams that like you if they go down by what was it 2110 that's game that's game over they cannot come back yeah they gotta
Starting point is 00:40:52 they gotta make it ugly they gotta get you in a like rock fight bloody you up a little bit and then hope to just like wear you down by the end of the game and if you get down if you're if you're the Titans and you start falling behind early in a game then it completely negates your strategy that you'd like to do which is just run Derek Henry 35 times yeah and and I don't know if this is a Derek Henry thing like maybe tractor seat oh season is just not gonna get going this year we had a little blip of it there's two games in a row maybe it's credit to the Eagles run defense which is looked stout Jordan Davis is back sparingly but they added some guys who Linval Joseph and is it an arm to Sue and they look
Starting point is 00:41:33 I don't know to shut down Derek Henry I know the game script got away from the Titans but this was the glaring weakness besides special teams for the Eagles and it feels like they kind of answered it and I don't that was that was a whopping and I you should probably give the Eagles credit for it I know that there's been a lot of like Eagles haven't won any you know haven't beaten anyone really good besides Cooper Rush the good news is if you're the Titans you can pretty much lose every game for the rest of the season and you're still gonna win that division yes I actually think that the Tennessee Titans could go would that be a seven and eleven they get there right no seven and ten seven and ten Panama
Starting point is 00:42:12 brain seven and ten they could go they go seven and ten win that division pretty handily and they might even fuck somebody up in the first round of the playoffs to yeah and and Traylon Burks that sucks he caught his first career touchdown and got knocked out hard I can't believe he held on to it but yeah this was a game that was out of control so fast and AJ Brown is so goddamn good and like his catches I feel like it happens every other week where he he catches one of those moon shots at the front end of the end zone on the goal line and he'll just like he'll just catch it through the defender and his hands are so fucking strong and I don't know if Max you have anything else to add but that
Starting point is 00:42:51 was a resounding win for the Eagles yeah the only other thing I really need or would like to add is that Jalen Hurts is the MVP he was unbelievable he was very he was unbelievable today and I know there's been a lot of to a to a looked like shit today Mahomes couldn't get a win Jalen Hurts is the MVP right now Mahomes Mahomes actually might get it if he turns it up these last few weeks because like he has become the Michael Jordan where it's like you are the LeBron where it's like yeah you give the MVP this guy every single year if they stumble a little bit and he like wills his team to getting the number two scene then I feel like it might go to Mahomes but Jalen Hurts has been awesome Jalen Hurts is doing
Starting point is 00:43:33 things that no Eagles quarterback has ever like he does remind me more and more of McNabb except I think that at his at his best he's better than McNabb and he also like something about the way he runs it's it's crazy to watch but he's running in like almost slow motion it's almost like Paul Pierce or Luca when you watch him play basketball and they're they're not fast and Jalen Hurts is fast but like they don't have blinding speed but they have deliberate speed where it's like they know exactly where they want to go no wasted steps doesn't it feel like that with Jalen Hurts sometimes where it's like he's not killing them with speed he just he knows exactly where to go and he beats you with angles and yeah I mean he
Starting point is 00:44:15 didn't even have to run today he only ran for 12 that's what I think has been the most impressive is that he can win games in so many different ways like if the game's getting ugly and you need to just pound the rock and run the football run the football he's obviously obviously can do that but I mean he threw for 380 yards and three touchdowns yeah and against a good Titans defense yes there's like nothing you can say about his throwing anymore because he's shown it time and time again yeah no he's a if you took away his legs entirely as far as like being able to run for yards I'm not talking about his elusiveness in the pocket but if you told Jalen Hurts you're not allowed to run the football just be a just be a passer I actually think that he would still be like a top 10
Starting point is 00:44:57 quarterback in the NFL also this is a hindsight is 2020 but 80% of the bets I think were on the Titans as underdogs that's just the Titans the way the Titans win a game is when no one expects him to win the game they gotta everyone thought they were a game they were like live in this game that's when they get blown out they got to make it ugly yeah yeah and you got to not expect it yeah you gotta expect it to be like oh man Titans have no shot like that Chiefs game that they almost won oh the Titans have no shot there's 13.100 dogs oh that's when the Titans show up and and do you know fuck shit on them mm-hmm okay before we get to the next game quick word from a couple of our sponsors movement watches movement has been doing things different since day one
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Starting point is 00:47:53 good good football lines are bad record but they're good football officially officially good they are they've played several good games in a row that builds game on Thanksgiving that to me was as as good and as productive a loss as I've seen any team have in a long time they played five good games in a row five it's incredible because they won three games in a row for like the first time since I don't know like 1885 and then they had a statement loss and then this game I'm a believer I'm officially ready to say it I'm a believer in what Dan Campbell is doing I agree yeah he's kind of a turkey sometimes and he'll completely mess up easily fixable situations but as far as being a coach goes like being able to turn down turn around a franchise like that is way harder than I think
Starting point is 00:48:40 a lot of people think that it is and I think that he's actually making steps towards doing it and in the season like it wasn't so there's turning around the Lions the macro level where it's like yeah this is a franchise that hasn't won a playoff game in what 30 years maybe even more I think it's 30 retroactively I do count that that Matt staffer gaming gets the cowboys yeah that should be they won that loss yes yes um but so that in itself is a big task but in the actual like season remember they were uh one in six they got blown up by the Patriots they lost that game to the cowboys it was our last 91 yeah it's a long time they lost the Dolphins in that game and then so they're one in six seasons over and they've now rattled off five
Starting point is 00:49:30 straight good games uh going four and one in that stretch that's hard to do like to be in the middle of October one in six and have the team buy in like Dan Campbell deserves a ton of credit for that well I think there's if there's one coach in the NFL that will never be accused of losing the locker room it's probably Dan Campbell right like he does not lose that fuck he's got that locker room on a leash yeah he's got he's got it micro chipped yes that locker room isn't going anywhere and the team loves them that's obvious they're getting healthy you probably saw like a little bit of the swing that they had earlier in the season they were banged up a little bit but yeah I think the bottom line is just that the the Lions are good at football they can build off
Starting point is 00:50:07 of this for next year yeah and so here's a fun little stat for Jaguars fans this is courtesy of Uncle Chaps who are not good at football that's 20 consecutive losses to NFC teams for the Jaguars dating back to a victory at the Giants to open the 2018 season 20 consecutive NFC losses yeah remember we had the stat Blake Bortles is like the NFC goat for the Jaguars I think he's like four and three or something yeah like he he's the only one who could beat NFC teams but uh yeah the the Jaguars you you nailed it Piazza on Friday when he's like you can't see the Jaguars doing this two games in a row no absolutely not the Ravens absolutely not everybody was shocked everybody was shocked when that happened and Trevor Lawrence they get a win in this game
Starting point is 00:50:49 because Trevor Lawrence legitimately like looked like he died and then he was just totally fine so as far as like a sliding scale of expectations goes I think that uh the Detroit Lions being featured on the in the hunt graphic in December yep is as good as winning a playoff game yes absolutely that's you're in the second round this is this is better than you would have ever thought even as recently as like six weeks ago and they're I mean they'd have to probably win out they'd probably have to win out the fact that we're having the conversation though big cat it's crazy they're five and seven they'd have to win out most likely uh but if like the commander's giants or seahawks one of those teams falls off they could be the one to pick it up if they if they
Starting point is 00:51:34 if they rattle off a few wins here they have the Vikings the Jets that's gonna be a tough one Panthers Bears Packers that's not they could win four out of these last five if they win though if they beat the Vikings I think they'll win four out of the last five they could they very easily could and then what's almost gonna be just as good as making the playoffs for for Lions fans you can at least play the game where you're like man that Thanksgiving game against the Bills if that had if if we had had you know if we left Josh Allen seven fewer seconds on the clock we'd be in the playoffs at this point and on top of all of that you have the fourth pick in the draft yeah pretty good the Rams pick pretty good Rams and that Stafford's getting shut down yeah you can't you could have it work
Starting point is 00:52:13 out better that the Super Bowl champs have though it's actually the worst Super Bowl championship defense of a team ever you have their pick like think about how fortuitous that is the Super Bowl champ you know that you're like all right these guys will be back in the playoffs no no they're in they're in the fourth pick right now they might not win another game that might get all the way up to two three like that's it's crazy you know it's gonna be really strange this offseason for it's gonna be weird having the media talk about the Lions as like a dark horse for the playoffs next year they are that's another step that you're going to have to deal with is now I think going into next season there will be some expectation yeah and they uh this in this specific
Starting point is 00:52:53 game they didn't punt uh first eight drives no they scored on their first eight drives first time they've ever done that since 1993 Jared was awesome they were hitting all the right notes the the Jaguars are the Jaguars fumbling just making mistakes Trevor Lawrence almost dying by the way this Cowboys game is a complete clowning at this point uh Colts guy's just like giving up on tackles Tony Pollard scored again it's a joke this is a joke yikes 40 to 19 oh no more points block kick oh we got 40 19 that's a big block okay all right huge block keep your eyes out wow jake a live score gami only had one in 13 weeks it's pretty bad man you know what's what's crazy though is like score gamis are going to become by their very nature more and more rare yeah as time goes on it's
Starting point is 00:53:44 not it's not great no it's a dangerous species yeah yeah every every time you have one you I said that you in the last one happened you go home and you're like that's one less that we can have dragon balls it's brutal they're infinite that's not true that's just how real numbers work oh actually Billy he's really is technically correct yeah as noted uh educated person Hank agrees with world renowned world renowned educated person Hank uh okay world renowned educated person Jake I'm rooting for you this would be incredible it's a big it's a huge moment uh where were you all right next up Browns 27 Texans 14 Sean Watson is back Sean Watson is rehabilitated per Adam Schefter Adam Schefter said uh before the before the game it was it was basically a text
Starting point is 00:54:34 message that he just put into his Twitter it was like here you go uh to Sean Watson has made what NFL and NFL PA experts have described as signs of progress during his mandatory treatment program per sources also we should note that his program is completely confidential so I don't know how they would find that it means that to Sean Watson has not masturbated onto or in the presence of a massage therapist in the last calendar year yes in which congratulations that is progress huge it seems like he is pretty big part of his routine before that yep so he has made a definite change you can also tell uh just a lot about Adam Schefter's tweets and his PR releases based on what time he schedules them for so this this one was scheduled to be tweeted out at four o'clock
Starting point is 00:55:23 a.m. yes problem that's exactly when I would schedule a tweet to go out if I've got bad news about anything that I don't want anyone responding to yeah bad news for Schefter is it hit the quote it hit the quote tweet lottery on that one had I think like 1500 quote tweets on it so word got around yeah even though he tried to bury it late at night um but yeah to Sean Watson came back he played today he wasn't good no he was not good we didn't think that he would be good because he hasn't played football in two years yeah the brown scored a fumble touchdown a punt return touchdown and a pick six yeah so the 27 14 score is not to Sean Watson oh you know what also Schefter if you're talking about what great progress to Sean Watson has made in like the last year
Starting point is 00:56:07 anybody cannot get massages when they're not playing football let's see what happens after he's like taking hits and actually getting sore that's when it's going to be very tough for to Sean Watson to stay out of the massage therapist office yes yes I uh it's good that he's rehabbed yeah good job dude completely rehabilitated the problem has been solved uh yeah he didn't kind of stink today the Texans didn't play particularly well either we didn't really watch much of this game uh yeah we did not watch pretty much any of this game the Texans are very very sad Kyle Allen it's just the whole thing's a bummer at this point one ten in one it's just the whole thing is a bummer yeah and you thought like maybe this was the game they get like you know a crowd there
Starting point is 00:56:51 everyone's thinking revenge fuck this guy he's a piece of shit he's a scumbag oh no wait Schefter said that he's rehabilitated uh but no they couldn't even do that yeah the fans they didn't really boom that much I thought there would be more booze today yeah but it was like a smattering is how I would describe it most people were like okay that's been our guy for a long time so we like him welcome back it actually turned out everyone was like oh my god this league Roger Goodell schedules uh Dishon Watson to go against the Texans his first game back that was actually like the nicest thing he could yeah it was perfect that was a treat there's the first time that we've really seen him wearing orange he looks he looks okay in orange not like a prison jumpsuit type of way but he fills the uniform
Starting point is 00:57:31 out nicely yeah yeah orange and brown good job Dishon Watson but we don't like you no no actually if he had if he had gotten injured today I think most of America would have been like that's awesome yeah oh absolutely that was like there was that's the one guy that I think most people would like throw aside there we don't root for injuries on yeah if he what if he just got hit in the what if he pulissaged himself and had to go to the hospital lose it that would I mean Jesus that'd be a great day on Twitter yeah it would I it's also oh no Jake looks like the uh score yeah but it's touchdowner bus so okay like they're down 21 also describes Dishon Watson's last year yes yes touchdowner bus uh the it's we're not rooting no one's rooting for Dishon Watson against except
Starting point is 00:58:14 browns fans I won't begrudge browns fans I understand how sports work yeah you're rooting for your team at that point we're gonna we're gonna make fun of him and uh yeah we're gonna we're gonna mock him just so you know yeah I think everyone expects what if he just sucked down that would be something huh hasn't played in a long time it's gonna take him a few weeks to to knock the rust off take them the rest of the year yeah uh all right Steelers Falcons Steelers 19 Falcon 16 I think this might be it for the Falcons even though they're still kind of alive feels like this is the we gotta probably start playing Desmond Ritter moment yeah I think so I mean the the good news for them is you've got the Bucks and the Saints playing each other
Starting point is 00:58:54 right this week so maybe I guess you're probably rooting for the Saints if you're the if you're the Falcons but you've also said that you're not going to start Desmond Ritter until you're out of playoff contingent so what would you rather do like if you're a Falcons fan what's going on Jake he just got a fumble big pick huge huge what would you rather have your Falcons fan like stay in the hunt for another three weeks not make the playoffs and get Mariota until like the very end or just like right now pull the Band-Aid off go to Ritter yes I'd rather go to Ritter at this point absolutely the small amount that I saw Ritter in the preseason he looked really good you have to go to Ritter yeah I mean he had some like weird moments where he's a rookie and he's obviously gonna go through
Starting point is 00:59:31 growing pains but just based on on his arm talent that I saw I think I think they should play him right now you have to go to Ritter he has to be good since then I can just be like Luke Fickles the quarterback whisper come to Wisconsin there you go that's I am rooting for Desmond Ritter yeah the quarterback the defensive coach quarterback oh yeah he's definitely gonna be I'm gonna be rooting hard for Desmond Ritter but yeah the Steelers like the Steelers another team it feels like today we have a couple teams that showed up and like hey maybe if they reel off a few wins here like it was it was the last gas week for a few teams where the Steelers the Lions trying to think if there's anyone else like they win and now if they win out they're in the playoffs
Starting point is 01:00:13 it's crazy to say they're five and seven yeah I don't know playing Lamar next week he or the Ravens with no Lamar yeah it's actually going to be funny because this might be Mike Tomlin's like pièce de résistance right if he can get this team to above 500 then you can keep the stack going of like he's never had a team below 500 including this year when they sucked it was this would actually be the only impressive time that he's ever like managed to get to 500 did you see the clip of him walking onto the field before the game it might have been during halftime no some guy was like some Steelers fan was like hey Tomlin like it was in the hallway he's like hey coach Tomlin let's go and he's like what the fuck man I'm working right now it was awesome he was so locked in it
Starting point is 01:00:54 was like don't talk to me yeah like do not talk to me I love that I'm locked in he's a he's a psycho I'm trying to win this fucking game the big take away I had from this game was the Falcons or O and two while Will Compton is an escrow while the boy is waiting to be signed yeah so let's get to work on that NFL NFL PA because I can't take much more of Will on Twitter so just get him on a team get him on a team this game also weirdly enough tied the record for most 45 plus yard field goals made five oh wow yeah it's weird that's pretty strange one and George Pickens is the definition of a ticking time bomb he's so awesome he's awesome but he gets so mad when he doesn't get the ball he's so good but so weird so weird he's a weird you know we've got a lot of weird players weird new
Starting point is 01:01:39 players in the NFL and guess what like greatness usually is kind of weird so he might be it might work out that like he's wired weird but he threw his helmet then they passed through him right away he was yelling at people like I guess you kind of want a fiery guy but he does feel like he lives on the edge at all time yeah it was the same at Georgia we're sitting next to uh Jersey Jerry during this game and he was reading a report he was like oh no oh no uh George Pickens just threw his helmet and kicked it like the icing on the cake was he also booted his helmet down the sidelines and now uh they're turning that into like a big it's a big cause for a concern in Pittsburgh but I don't know he's I think he's definitely good enough he's got enough talent to be able to overlook
Starting point is 01:02:24 all the other stuff that he does yeah just like make him happy whatever yeah yeah exactly make him happy anything else on this game uh we're at the point of the season where there's some games where it's like okay that was a game they're gonna look back Falcons are gonna look back on on this stretch and be like what the hell did we do yeah you know how like it's like I look back and I've I wasted my 20s is what they're gonna say because they had the chargers the panthers the bears the commanders and the Steelers all lined up in a row and they they booted it uh they might not be that good yeah but they booted it's like you look at it and you're like look at all these teams they have turns out the Falcons are not better than those teams well now we know that yeah right but in the
Starting point is 01:03:05 moment right we were set to go on a run right someone must put futures on them yeah it's like oh yeah looking back uh yeah they're probably right around where they should be they wasted their 20s 5 and 8 team uh okay last one from the 1 p.m. Ravens 10 Broncos 9 Lamar goes out Tyler Huntley in the Ravens spent the entire game trying to score trying to try to take the lead they're down 9-3 for what felt like an eternity Tyler Huntley in his heroics scores with like 25 seconds left and we're left with the Broncos having yet again another just terrible disappointing loss this team is a disaster yeah um Nathaniel Hackett broke out all the tricks this week he grew a goatee he did that's how you know it's getting bad when you just spontaneously grow a
Starting point is 01:03:54 goatee out of nowhere try just he's trying to change up anything yeah anything and everything that can be done differently in Denver he's giving it a shot and uh I I would just resign if I were him when was the last time we had a coach just resign before he can be fired you probably end up losing a lot of money actually if you do that I would I would imagine but I would say if I were him I would strongly consider resigning yeah because it's it's not going to get it's not going to get any better I have some sad stats for you so uh there's a guy on Twitter named Kent uh Wayrock I probably butchered his name W-e-y-r-a-u-c-h he has uh the Russell Wilson uh toilet watch where can he get as many passing touchdowns as toilets in his bathroom so today was a big setback for him
Starting point is 01:04:43 he now has to Russell Wilson has to average one passing touchdown a game for the last five games to surpass the amount of bathrooms he has in his house he has 12 bathrooms he has eight touchdown passes this year yeah that's pretty tough he's probably not going to get there yeah and it's like it was one of those things that someone probably started it this guy started it week one being like this would be funny for the first few weeks we're in week 13 and he's fighting for his life to get more touchdown passes than he has bathrooms in his house we have an insane amount of bathrooms he he really set himself up for that one yes the other thing I have is the Broncos are averaging right now 13.8 points per game it will be the first team to average under 14 points
Starting point is 01:05:23 in the last 10 seasons if they had just been the uh I think I looked it up if they had just been the 20th ranked offense the Saints offense which is averaging 20.8 points per game if they scored 20.8 points in the regulation in regulation this year they'd be 10 and two if they were just the Steelers who were like the 28th ranked offense like really bad uh they would be uh eight and four so it's like all they needed to do was be not the absolute worst offense that's how good their defense has been they would be a playoff team really really bad it's crazy yeah and and that that wasn't going to be the expectation coming in the season it was like okay you fixed your entire offense and now there's some there's some very funny old uh old like trade grades
Starting point is 01:06:10 that are getting passed around I saw one from ESPN when they made the initial drew lock for Russell Wilson trade they gave the Broncos an A and they gave the Seahawks a D plus for the trade I grade that trade grade an F plus yeah it's I admire minus no I admire the fact that they that they made the grade true that takes balls to grade a trade immediately true but uh everything besides that was dog shit uh the real winner from this game was Rick Riley who took the opportunity to come out and just remind everybody oh do you think Rick Riley's still got the flamethrower you think Rick Riley can still bring it does he only tweet bangers the answer is yes because an hour and 45 minutes after the game was over Rick took to Twitter and said Russell Wilson
Starting point is 01:06:55 sucks like the Dyson factory damn hashtag Broncos damn just absolutely cooked him I as bad as the stat about the touchdown passes compared to toilet paper is this is way worse Riley's in his bag yeah he is the Dyson factory dude bro that's where they make the vacuums that sucks more than he sucks worse than that damn Riley Rick Riley nailed it yeah uh yeah the Broncos are just I don't know where the Ravens like the Ravens are gonna probably struggle because Lamar Jackson I Tyler Huntley is fun and then I rem reminded myself that he was one and four last year yeah but he's he's a fun one he's fun like I was like oh no they'll be fine Tyler Huntley it's like oh no there's a steep drop off between Lamar Jackson and Tyler Huntley yeah and um the good news for the
Starting point is 01:07:39 Ravens fans is Harbaugh said after the game Lamar's injury could be between days and weeks I take that so now yeah it's not it's not months no take so that's good I guess he's just got like a bruise knee I felt guilty because when they took him to the locker room they showed him walking through the hallway I I thought he was shitting again yeah but he's always he's always be shitting I'm if I watch the replay enough times I could convince myself that it's just a bruise yeah and he'll be okay yeah yeah you did diagnose it it's just a bruise yeah so I appreciated that um the only other thing I had just is more sad Bronco stuff um I mentioned that they would be the first team in a decade to average less than 14 points the last team to do it was the 2012 Chiefs with Matt
Starting point is 01:08:25 Castle and Brady Quinn the year before that it was the Rams with Bradford uh Philly and Clemens yeah Count Clemens yeah yeah Count Clemens yeah wow that was he was remember he had like a little thing with the Jets he did yeah he was he had like one good game on the Jets I think yeah and then the one before that 2010 Panthers was uh Jimmy Kloss and Matt Moore so when you like those quarterbacks those are bangers only those quarterbacks Russell Wilson same sentence now if you had asked me to name like the most mid starting quarterbacks of the last 10 years and that's Russell Wilson's and Russ Wilson and we said last week that we didn't recall Russ being this bad on the Seahawks at the end post finger injury he actually was this bad yeah so the finger fucked him up well he came
Starting point is 01:09:14 back from he came back too early he came back from the five week finger injury in like three weeks and he sucked for like three more weeks and then he was okay yeah but even right when he was supposed to be healed but even for the rest of the year he like dipped again it's he's not the same guy after that finger no it's a pretty big finger something something's fucked up um okay uh let's do a couple ads and then we'll do the afternoon slate which is a great slate these recaps are being brought to you by our great friends over 3C now introducing the next evolution and ultra pure cannabis products Delta 9-0 by 3C 3C Delta 9-0 products deliver a similar yet smoother stronger and longer lasting euphoria compared to traditional marijuana products this high quality and federally
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Starting point is 01:11:33 clogged use promo code 20 easy rinse for 20 off BIC easy rinse on amazon dot com today that's promo code 20 easy rinse for 20 off BIC easy rinse on amazon dot com today they just got to let my matt ryan retire this has become very sad very very sad the the cowboys just sacked him strip sack touched on them might not stand it's let him retire we knew this is going to happen we knew this was going to happen it's old yellow it's just okay the the good boy he's got rabies now yeah take him behind the the biggest tallest shed you can find do what you have to do it's it's an absolute clowning an absolute smoking the cowboys are going to win by like a billion i don't think that one stands is matt ryan okay because right now he's he's curled up in the fetal
Starting point is 01:12:29 position yeah five turnovers the gommies dead no we're okay right now the only thing that kills us is 50 to 19 okay this like gets reversed and the Dallas cowboys like go to field goal range i don't think they'll kick a field they probably won okay matt ryan's okay he's walking around um okay so yeah that game doesn't even need recapping the the cowboys just absolutely dismantled the cults credit the cults for staying in it for a quarter as uh as steve awesome would say this is a they stomped a texas mud hole yeah the cults today yeah that was bad um okay uh afternoon slate seahawks 27 rams 23 shawn mcvay is now to the point of the season where he's just using old inspirational quotes to try to pump himself up uh he said after the loss calm seas don't make good sailors so that's
Starting point is 01:13:18 nice uh he's just they they were actually like in this game they were winning this game with three minutes left they were fighting hard but gino was able to do it he tried to throw like three interceptions on the last drive but is able to take him down the field win the game and uh yeah the rams are just it's it's over like it's just it's pack up the season it's done everyone's out and they're gonna sit everyone and just play out this like don't even play out the strength it's gotta it's gotta be awful being shawn mcvay with the the photographic memory because yeah that's it's a great thing if your teams are good and you're filling up all the space in your head with like perfect beautiful memories of great successful football but once you start losing it must become
Starting point is 01:14:00 such a burden to have to remember like all these shitty plays yeah like he's gonna have to go out there and remember like brice perkins playing for an entire weekend that's that is john wolford john wolford those are two giant wastes of brain space so um credit to gino though gino smith this was his first fourth quarter comeback victory since week 17 of 2014 also career high in passing in a game and career high uh passing first season he surpassed today incredible and so good for him and dk just went man mode on jaylen ramsey on on that last touchdown catch insane every now and again he just remembers i'm bigger and stronger than everybody else even if i can't turn so i'm just gonna i'm just gonna go man mode on you box you out yes it was uh it was yeah it was a nice
Starting point is 01:14:47 drive by gino seahawks stay alive uh because it felt like they were fading a little especially the fact that the rams were maybe gonna win this game um their defense is weird like their defense goes stretches where it looks great and then it looks so so bad yeah i i actually think the defense is one of those it more so than offense if you even start to check out a little bit on a season defense seems like the easier one to go because so much of his predicate on just effort on every single play yeah and uh bobby wagner was awesome because he was is a personal revenge game so yeah credit to him yeah does uh doesn't peak carol kind of own sean mcfay am i completely making that setup i know all those it might be all those nfc west coaches just own each other repeatedly i think
Starting point is 01:15:30 peak carol is above sean in that cycle is that was that did that help you that touch yeah because if they tackled them they would have kicked the field goal they're on like the 20 yard line wait so 54 19 is not a god 50 53 and 54 good 50 would have been bad wow so we could still get the gami yeah but if they didn't get this first down we were we're toast wow yeah big blowouts like this i feel like are more more yeah it's fine more flexible more flexible um yeah i do think i there is something like that where no i don't know we got to look into it there is peak carol owned somebody yeah from the nfc i don't know jake can you look that up i know you're after the gami after the gami or billy look it up what the record is peak carol versus other nfc west coaches um all right moving
Starting point is 01:16:10 on raiders 27 chargers 20 justin herbert is just philip rivers okay go on and i say this not because it's not an anti justin herbert thing it's more of an anti chargers thing watching him play behind like an offensive line that has injuries but just like didn't do anything for him he'd have to check down like basically the only time that justin herbert's able to really be justin herbert is when they're in like fourth and 18 he made that touchdown throw that was out of this world's good and now we get the chargers it feels like every week back in these games where they're down late and justin herbert's got to do something and it's like i it's the chargers it's not philip rivers not justin herbert it's the chargers the chargers are gonna fail two really really good quarterbacks
Starting point is 01:16:57 back to back you know what i i would almost say like we should start the free justin movement yes like let justin go yes if you love him if you truly care about him chargers let him play for a different team yes because much like we do the thing of like imagine this this uh running back like with it with the kyle shanahan system like imagine justin herbert just playing for a competent franchise with a good offensive line because no matter what happens to the chargers they're always going to have bad injury luck right it's going to be the story of their franchise right so like just if i'm justin herbert i would think about doing a power play and just not signing a long-term deal there yeah he's got all the talent in the world he makes throws that are like holy
Starting point is 01:17:35 fuck and then he just ends up in these games where it's like the chargers should win this game the raiders have nothing to play for oh chargers are gonna lose this game they're out six and six and they're fighting for their playoff life i'm gonna sprinkle a little little takeout there you're ready for this yeah chargers don't make the playoffs this year brandon staley gets fired sean patin coaches the chargers oh i like that his back to coach the chargers i like that i think he would want might be too much arm strength for him i think he would want to do that i think he'd be that's precisely why he wouldn't want to do it yeah he's like i my entire career i've wanted to see what i could do with a quarterback with an arm that didn't get struck by lightning i know
Starting point is 01:18:10 where i'll go to the chargers yes okay yeah okay cool i like that um and then as far as the raiders they are the fun uh bad team this year where it's like they can just be they started the game looking terrible they went 18 minutes without throwing it to davante adams then they're like oh shit davante adams is really fucking good let's throw it to him and then he went off yeah and the raiders like the raiders if you turn it into a raiders game you could either have a like just watch the most boring pathetic game or you could watch an absolute awesome shootout and the raiders have that like switch they flip they're not a very good team but they at least can be fun i was going to say that it's actually a a stunning turn for the raiders to go into a team that's fun and bad
Starting point is 01:18:52 right compared to where they were earlier this season yes yes and mark davis also was macking on some fucking timepiece oh he marked davis pulls oh absolutely he wasn't macking on her she was macking on him that's a fact he's he's than they do of owners yeah shadow they do hashtag they do they do crew uh all right niners 33 dolphin 17 dolphins got absolutely crushed uh it was close it's a close game in the fourth quarter but oh actually the first story is the jimmy g's out for the year that sucks yeah it sucks so bad his foot's broken um they did sign josh johnson off the practice squad of the broncos i actually love that like josh johnson is a good quarterback that's been around he's played on like every team in the nfl i am very excited to see if because
Starting point is 01:19:42 i guess they're gonna try to start perty for the rest of the season but if he stumbles at all having josh johnson there that's that's a pretty good luxury that they're gonna have perty did look pretty good today yeah overall not bad for a rookie quarterback the first mr of irrelevant to throw a touchdown pass yep and uh i said i knew in the preseason that kyle liked him because he just said like he's got the it factor he's brocked over he's brocked he's got it he's got moxie you heard jason garrett say like 12 times tonight on sunday night football he's got moxie i like brock perty it sucks for jimmy g though yeah because this team was loaded it felt like he could take them on a deep run some people disagree but it sucks for him i feel
Starting point is 01:20:25 bad for jimmy g i i do too but at the same time he played good enough this year where he's gonna get a good contract maybe he's gonna some team will pay for him yeah yeah i mean he does he does feel like he's at the point of his career where he's he's like okay let's let's let's give it a try for competent football it might be a great cult yeah oh he'd be a great cult at this point in his career for sure you know what they really what should really happen if the saints have any dignity whatsoever they would cut russell wilson and let the 49ers sign him for the good of the game excuse me not the bro excuse me not russell wilson the saints should cut jamis winston yeah and let the 49ers sign him for the good of the game yes for the good of football roger bell needs
Starting point is 01:21:08 to implement the good of football agreed jamis on that team would be so fun mm-hmm probably drive kyle shannon absolutely nuts i would love it yeah uh also the niners defense is fucking awesome they wrecked this victory formation let's go jay i've never seen a losing team do that wow you're right wow i've never seen that that's a jeff saturday special healing it out let's all go home for dinner classy by jeff saturday it was hanging here oh here it is score gone picture shake it yeah get in front of the tv right when i hit zero wow what a what a what a what a nice move by jeff saturday and oh and the rich get richer odell beckham will be making his visit to the dallas cowboys tomorrow yeah score a gommie way to go jake wait for zero pft very important for jake is very
Starting point is 01:22:00 sweet for zero one zero you're listening to it live on air you're doing great finally got it got it great job now also jake likes it when it gets big hold on jake likes it when the oh in the final when they go final big when the big final happens yeah yeah oh here it is is here oh no they're not gonna do it no they're about to do it watch it i'm waiting for the big final electric for everyone at home where were you when jake got to take his score a gommie picture and another one bites the dust jake nope they didn't do a big one they didn't do a big one it's okay go home tonight and one more that you can't have hope you're happy tired losing your flex to the air wired look what we got instead score gommie i mean that's a trade-off i'm willing to take any
Starting point is 01:22:42 day of the week by the way we are talking about your dolphins they got wrecked oh yeah they were terrible yeah also like after the first play of the game time five-hour touchdown i quoted billy's tweet from friday's show i'm not sold on tua that backfired oh but at the time it was right two was at the time one for 175 yards touchdown two what might need is tackles especially against the 49ers defense because they joey bosa was or nick bosa was all over the place they had the dolphins had 19 minutes of possession in a 60 minute game they were 0 for seven on third down and they had 300 total yards of offense this is mike mcdaniel's offense that has all the weapons and everyone's talking about how great they are the niners just completely dominated them after
Starting point is 01:23:21 that first touchdown that we didn't even see yeah mccaffrey played awesome again um waddle was hurt for a little bit but he came back i don't think he was 100 when he got back so the offense was slightly limited this is to his first loss where he played the entire game this season for the dolphins so i think i think the dolphins are still going to be okay you got to win the chargers game this was more about the fact of like okay the 49ers are they're a wagon at this point yes and i honestly i don't really think it matters that much who's playing quarterback for the 49ers i think no we've seen it it's exactly you know what it is it's the it's kind of like the reverse of the running back situation where you'd say it doesn't matter who plays running back for the denver
Starting point is 01:24:03 broncos or for you know when it's mike shanahan system or for cow shanahan it doesn't matter really who the quarterback is they will be able to scheme a guy who's at least competent into being like a above average game manager i would say their margin of error has changed like yeah it's very thin but yeah they they can absolutely they're good enough their team is good enough that they'll make they'll be okay i still think they'll be yeah they'll be okay this year um but yeah jimmy losing jimmy g is kind of a it's bad because at least he's proving that he can get you to a super bowl right in the past right um so yeah i'm still rooting for him i still i still think that there were the more fun teams to root for absolutely they just fucking run the ball
Starting point is 01:24:40 50 times a game cut james winston let him sign for the niners do it do it um yeah the dolphins jake how are you feeling overall like give us you have a tough stretch coming up yeah so remember in like september we saw how soft their schedule was in the middle of the season and uh they took advantage of that while healthy but then at the end you saw uh niners you have chargers i assume they'll stay out west this week i'm not sure i then at the bills which is my flex of the year next week um so i then you have the divisional game so i'm circling that week 18 game against the jets the two of hands revenge game that could that could be a major game for playoff uh we need to make sure that two will find out that they did that really put an extra
Starting point is 01:25:24 chip on us yeah we gotta tweet them every day i'm not gonna be annoying come on do it yeah no no every day it was disgusting what they did jake it was maybe the week of the game okay uh all right last game best game awesome game roback game use code take on roback.com for 20 off your first purchase rhobck.com code take we have a huge announcement roback just released performance joggers and they are amazing i'm wearing them right now we seriously can't take them off make sure you get yourself a pair uh so check it out right now roback.com 20 off i wear them all weekend use code take 20 off rhobc.com cannot recommend them enough they also have the q zips polos hoodies everything roback.com bangles 27 chiefs 24 joe burrow owns patrick mahomes yeah i mean we have a
Starting point is 01:26:16 narrative it's officially a narrative right now which is kind of cool like patrick mahomes has a nemesis he has a nemesis where he is it decidedly the underdog in any matchup yeah we've reached the point where we can say joe burrow has patrick mahomes number he's so uh joe burrow's three and oh hey you know head to head the only other person who has three wins against patrick mahomes is tom brady who's three and three so joe burrow has full ownership of patrick mahomes and it was like it actually was weird because it was one of those games that i thought it it almost like reverse storylines because the chiefs or sorry the bangles got cute at the end of the first half going into the end zone with that fourth down call where uh they tried to you know they had
Starting point is 01:27:02 someone in motion and they got absolutely blown up uh it's trint tyler yeah our guy trint taylor i don't think he had a chance he didn't have targets this week but he didn't have one rushing attempt for negative three yards which is a single double yeah what are you saying that was a rushing attempt yeah yeah that was rushing attempt and he so actually he gets my game mvp because going into the locker room they're like oh fuck we screwed this up now we gotta really focus and uh i mean the chiefs look like they were gonna win it for a while there but the bangles defense we talked about it ad nauseam their second half defense especially they shut down teams when they need to big big fumble uh force fumble of kelsey like joe burrow just anytime there's a third and long it's like
Starting point is 01:27:47 he's just gonna make a throw yeah he's gonna stand in there that third and make a throw that third and eleven he was just like completely he was so calm in the park he's just standing like straight up not worrying let the play develop easy first down game over he's he's so fucking good and he's so just calm cool collected and i you know we we've said it we this was the script the bangles were at the same exact spot they were last year and they had a big win against the chiefs and they win the the afc north now they're they have it all in front of them to do the exact same thing i've got to take i think this bangles team is better than last year's bangles they might be i think they are i think that they've they've somehow managed to improve on where they were last year well you
Starting point is 01:28:27 have i mean t higgins has become like next level jamar chase is just he's the crazy part about jamar chase is he's so fast but he's also so fucking strong and it feels like the first guy never gets him down yeah you know what i mean like guys he's just he's so strong and he has so much speed and yeah like i i would agree with you i think this team is is destined to be right up there come the end of january with either the bills or the chiefs like who's gonna face off the asc championship game i the bangles can absolutely win the super bowl this year i think it's crazy i think that their uh their past defense is very underrated yeah i think that so obviously the chiefs and their passing attack right now like patrick mahomes is not putting up stats in terms
Starting point is 01:29:11 of yardage like he has been in the past a big part of that is not having tyreek hill who is usually good for like 100 yard like run per game uh but when it when it comes to their past defense i was looking this i was trying to figure out the last time that they allowed a 300 yard passer in a game i could have i think it's like week one or two of last year that's crazy like their pat their past defense is insanely good right now and and yeah they they had only two the chiefs wanted to take a couple shots they the mvs they tried to get open he had a couple but they had two plays that were explosive plays over 20 yards like they kept them in front of them and patrick mahomes did make his his jump into the end zone was very cool but you can't really
Starting point is 01:29:55 compliment patrick mahomes when joe burrow has his number patrick mahomes yeah i mean he's still awesome he's still pat of course but in this specific game joe burrow gets the he's better he played way better than him yeah um people always accuse us of like forgetting about patrick mahomes and how good he is i don't think that we've ever forgot hey you just gave a shrug though like he's not you are you are the person that they say we are no i just think i also remember a few years ago when everyone they won one championship and it was like this is the new dynasty they're the new power of that city comes back to got it but you got josh allen who i think is the best quarterback of the nfl and joe burrow has his number so you know what i think the bills actually
Starting point is 01:30:31 won this game by having the chiefs take a loss makes the bills more likely to get home field advantage the bills won the bangles chiefs match up yes yes so josh allen new dynasty or joe burrow joe burrow is him i know so is josh so is josh i just everyone crown patrick a little bit early like it premature hank you know that i love josh allen but you know that he he hasn't won a super bowl yet no i know mahomes did but he didn't have a dynasty that's that's my point that's true dynasty dynasties are not easy to get they're not you guys know dynasty loading and buffalo very hard to get um yeah but the bangles fuck and like something about like i don't know there's everything everything feels like it's in slow motion for joe burrow
Starting point is 01:31:20 like he just moves he sees the whole field in slow motion that calmness where it's like the rush is coming no problem fit into a tight window win the game he's just got the ice he's got the ice he really does he wants the ball at the end of the game he's got that ice it's a it's a end like you can't it's not a stat right it's crazy to watch in real life and be like oh okay he's got this joe burrow you can't coach ice no um okay that was all of week 13 billy you want to do football guys of the week yep and we'll finish with who's back of the week so last week's winner for football guy of the week was thaddeus longmeyer yeah he was the armless middle school football player who was a tight end total legend no holding calls and he won so
Starting point is 01:32:06 shout out thaddeus better hands than eric ebron mm-hmm yeah uh our first nominee for this week is sam eric eric ebron stan over there u n c guy yeah in front of the program yeah is sam hartman quarterback for wake for us this is a very weird story uh sam hartman i think he had some sort of infection uh where he had to have a rib taken out uh like a bone rib male manson yeah so he had a rib removed and he currently has the rib in his refrigerator and he's going to plan to make a necklace out of it pretty soon okay um i'm not a doctor but speaking as somebody that has had several procedures i don't think that they let you keep parts of your body i think that's a that's a bio hazard maybe you knew the doctor i don't know let's keep teeth true they do that's a good point yep
Starting point is 01:32:57 but usually i don't think that they that a doctor that would take a rib out would be like hey here's this thing that we just removed from you i don't know i could be wrong i could be wrong i don't want to come a liar i think you can keep bullets you get shot okay i met a guy who got shot and he had a necklace with the bullet that's sick yeah pretty cool okay uh our second he definitely deserves to be football guy the weak nominee yeah uh our second nominee is lincoln gustafson who is the kid who gets on the bill on the jumbo tron at us bank stadium and puts that shit on keeps making spinning games yeah that the vibe in that stadium i was allowed to go there recently it is something it is up there with like niland tennessee it's really yeah it is a so the
Starting point is 01:33:44 only two stadiums you've been to now you went to met life what are you talking about not the only two name all the recently it was also what was funny is the way that i i don't know what billy's name all the stadiums name all the stadiums you've been to you said i recently went to minnesota which is up there with the other stadium i recently went over under five stadiums that you've been to for football i've been over it's college yeah yeah division one college yes yes i've been to five name them foxborough uh army west point yeah west point okay uh niland of course you have troop um rudkers rudkers um did you ivy leeks count no okay um i went to you don't say you're gonna say columbia at life weren't you yeah well i went on a couple visits and for game and uh minnesota
Starting point is 01:34:35 yeah but no colorado we go to a game we go to a game yeah so it's two yeah two out of the six you've been to six yeah so it's in the top third yeah also the way that you phrase it i don't know what lie you're trying to cover up there but when you said like i was recently allowed to go to a game at minnesota stadium it's like what was that what what did what did that mean i it was nothing phrasing yeah anyway third nominee this one it's like you got taken off a no fly it was like you know loud and give and leave yeah work release uh makes me think that you weren't allowed to go that yeah no you definitely weren't yeah what would happen billy why why were you at that game look it was thanksgiving we had we had off on thanksgiving something is a
Starting point is 01:35:21 miss about why billy was in that stadium yeah and i'm gonna find out what it is okay um i threw this guy on here because he really embodied football guy max dug in quarterback for tc the guy i you know usually don't give nominations for on the field stuff but this was a guy who just gave it his all i don't know i don't know just like usually like football guy stuff is like football guy stuff outside of the sport of football that just shows that your football guy and he was balling his eyes out in front of the media after the game like this he gave it his all i like crying yeah yeah yeah you give me a football guy you can get an award or nominated for football guy of the week for crying if it's during the national anthem or after a game because you're sad because you'll
Starting point is 01:36:06 let your guys down and we're about one of your guys yeah about one of your guys yeah about your guys at one point in the game they were like max dug in has over 30 scratches on his arms okay yeah sure is it gonna be in new york city this week yes hopefully he'll stop by he's an awl yeah dude he was a tank uh and our last nominee is the university of houston yes guy oh what continue i have a i have a nominee i was gonna request to nominate this is the guy from university of houston this is the guy just runs out and gets the tea after the kick off and he's a fat guy larger guy but he hustles out there and he does some acrobatics when picking up the tea and uh just like the hustle football guy what do you got hank uh maybe it's just because
Starting point is 01:36:48 i don't know it's a women but the university of houston volleyball player k george i don't know if you guys saw this highlight i'm gonna i'm gonna send it to you one of one of the greatest plays i've ever seen in my life uh she was on the back of the line and she went barreling over a table to save the point and then it turned into a ball that went back and forth like 10 more times she came back was part of the play and their team won the point it's it's hell yeah great volleyball plays are are fantastic but the football guy she she literally just ran headfirst dove over a table smashed into a bunch of chairs made the play football guy i like it okay i like it nominator sweet oh that was awesome she looked like a bill's fan yeah good for her and then but she gets back
Starting point is 01:37:32 and then she's back in the play now yeah why does somebody wear a different color shirt it's called the libero oh wow that was the first televised broadcast that it was circus women's volleyball the libero damn yeah oh that was awesome that sounds italian yeah that was sick okay yeah so she's nominated to yeah yeah all right good job billy billy no nominating of the the jamie football team for having the best pizza party ever that's fine that's pretty solid i mean it's not a it's not a rib what was the final would you what was the final like number what you get uh 60 pizzas i think 20 cheesy breads a bunch of two liters extra sauce nice 1200 bucks worth of pizza nice what that's it's looked like an awesome yeah bendinucci owes me i owe you 400 bucks 400 bucks yeah yeah it looked
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Starting point is 01:41:21 go to lucy dot co slash barstool 10 bucks off all right let's wrap up who's back of the week Hank oh my who's back of the week is football in the deep south coach prime going to colorado made the made the announcement yesterday it's going to be the new coach of the buffs very exciting our buffs our buffs that was kind of yeah a little recruitment trip we were kind of doing some some some deep diving for coach prom if we weren't there to curse that entire campus really and football program are they bad enough this year where they fire their coach and then hire prime maybe not fair question but it's very exciting uh he obviously was nasty at uh jsu they won the championship i think or they have one more game yeah sweet how's the deep south back
Starting point is 01:42:08 with football because colorado's in the deep south oh yeah i was gonna say albama didn't make the playoff even though albama fans spent an entire weekend saying they should be in because they're albama now per paul bisnet colorado's in the south that's a fact and now they're back in the pack 12 it's like it's kind of wide open now usc and uc layer leaving he's going to be able to get all the recruits with the nil the the he talked to his team and he basically told everyone which is you know people people are people are pretty like out of pocket with coach prime saying he shouldn't have left and that like it made no sense where he left where he got a humongous raise and and gets to it's a better job obviously power five conference
Starting point is 01:42:46 gets to bring all the assist assistance with them get them paid a lot more and he was like talking to his players like you guys you know either get with it or get in the portal because i'm bringing guys here yeah it's gonna be fun and they suck so it's like yeah their team no one on the team should expect to play like they were terrible yeah facts the ability that dion has to talk like extemporaneously and to sound like he's written out an entire speech is incredible to me it's awesome he's just he's got that gift and i think it's gonna be fun to see what he does out there because he doesn't have the head coaching experience that most coaches have when they get a job like that he's only been a coach for what two seasons um and so there might be a learning
Starting point is 01:43:29 curve a little bit for him but in terms of recruiting dion said he's he's the best living room guy in america absolutely but you know who else was an amazing living room guy that also didn't have a lot of coaching experience coach oh team with a lot of talent coach oh the coach of the greatest cultural team of all time coach oh yeah fact how much does that really matter coaching is going to win a national championship that's what you're saying yes okay i mean the air is thinner up there and they have a path of the playoff and they've got great mountains nearby expanded teams yeah expanded playoffs don't want to go to boulder in december no i can't i can't wait to see uh coach prime meet ralphie for the first time that's gonna be great content
Starting point is 01:44:09 yes yes as someone who's suited up into colorado uniform before i can sense the turnaround coming yeah yeah if you you can feel it yeah i know he's gonna be awesome yeah he's gonna be incredible yeah i felt good in that uniform yeah i think i've got some eligibility left coach let me know no coach prime is gonna fucking i mean it's our second team now everyone's second team has got to be in colorado pft yep get the buffs uh my who's back of the week is the dr pepper tuition giveaway yeah i was mad about this jake big mad big mad there was scandals there was a legitimate scandal in the halftime competition first of all they got to just eliminate the chess pass i hate the chess pass yeah they should be throwing it like a quarterback it's a football game not a basketball
Starting point is 01:44:53 skills challenge uh so it's the the competition for tuition which is always it feels weird to me watching that where it's like hey do you want to be able to afford your college yes or do you want to be insanely broke for the rest of your life yes well then you better throw this football into this giant canada dr pepper in the next 30 seconds or else you're fucked that's kind of beautiful though in its own right it's very american yeah no it is it's like yeah it's like look at if you take a step back what pete's saying i agree with this like hey we're just making these kids just you know throw it into a big dr pepper to try to further their lives it's like dan actively hilarious dance for sugar water or else you're
Starting point is 01:45:30 going to have to live in squalor for at least 10 years after after college i just got a really good idea what american gladiator for free tuition like a row okay yeah you're basically designing a squid game yeah yeah i like go hard though it's quick game did go hard just go just like full gladiator like uh you have to fight a lion or else you die mm-hmm or how about this i i like where billy's at but you get them all together like a bigger group of them and then you put them out in like the wilderness and they have to kill each other until one's left i like that they can represent different parts of the country as they're competing against each other huh i think that's a genius cornucopia in the middle it's perfect yeah i love it um but yeah the dr pepper tuition
Starting point is 01:46:14 challenge is back and they uh jake maybe you can illuminate us as to what the controversy was because my understanding was there was a tie at the end of the first round and then they had at the sec championship i believe they do it at all the power conference yes it went to double overtime what no no no no it was a tie at the end of regulations they did a 15 second tiebreaker yeah they tied that and instead of going to double ot they're like all right this girl won the uh predetermined tiebreaker yesterday she wins no they didn't do double ot we don't know what the what was your time i was i don't know but then i guess later on the broadcast they said dr pepper is awarding oh that was if someone came too it was like this is a nightmare yeah so i don't know
Starting point is 01:46:55 what there was no double ot i love how hank has become just a stand for for dr pepper yeah i do love dr pepper uh but no i mean i it's it was soft just go to double ot yeah go to double three seconds but if it's a predetermined tiebreaker it's a predetermined tiebreaker you know it's like it still gets 20k rules are right but it didn't matter so they're paying why don't they just give every you know it's participation trophy culture just give every participant 100k facts yes don't know what's important having a competition discuss you know where this controversy wouldn't have happened if it was mountain dew yeah that's a good point yeah the brand new flavor facts which is fantastic yeah frank saw that earlier today and
Starting point is 01:47:33 i i think he came himself yeah he basically got fruit fruit quake fruit quake yeah where'd you get the fruit quake yeah very smelled it yeah uh all right my who's back is bowl season specifically our bowl uh ohio verse wyoming the barstool sports arizona bowl december 30th barstool.tv 430 eastern gonna be awesome jake's gonna be on the call me and dave pft is gonna be there uh hanks gonna be there maybe hank are you gonna be there if i make it out there yeah hanks gonna be there it's gonna be incredible driving also bowl season are you really yeah you're driving to arizona no you're not i swear to god from where that's useless i actually want to drive yeah we said no to that um why don't worry about it it's not unconfirmed probably one of my friends moving out there
Starting point is 01:48:27 so you're gonna drive with them possibly legendary friend move it's a long it's yeah yeah you own something uh either way bowl season do him something or do you owe her something it's a him okay no i was just like i was like i kind of want to do something you know not like usually my friends go like skiing whatever after cryptos i kind of want to do something like not uh not skiing this time is like want to come to arizona i was like fuck kind of and then we have to be out there perfect so i was like yeah let's do it let's drive to arizona love it i love it um but yeah bowl season's back i love all the bowls it's the best just watching games like on a tuesday afternoon two teams you don't know who's playing for what uh and then we also have the college
Starting point is 01:49:07 football playoff which i think they they got it right yeah yeah they did you can't because you can't say that you're not going to penalize teams for playing a championship game and then fuck tcu on this one and you have to at least like try to live up to your word and they set the precedent in 2016 when penn state max shut up max got screwed they beat ohio state head to head they went beat wisconsin at the big 10 championship game we were there and they put in ohio state over penn state because ohio state had one loss penn state had two but penn state had beaten them head to head that was right there like the key if they're gonna do it this year they're gonna do it every year where if you have two losses you're not going in over a one loss
Starting point is 01:49:46 yeah power five team yeah so i think they got it right i think they definitely got it in ohio state like i mean it will be fun to watch ohio state like have another crack at it so i mean i understand why they kept the teams in the positions that that they did but just for just for fun i did want to see a rematch of michigan ohio state the final which would be that would be an insane game but it's literally all the bragging rights forever yeah it would be so yeah the stakes are definitely higher at that point it was yeah no you're right you don't think so no i thought you're gonna yeah you're right what you're right oh you thought i was gonna bring up duke no i mean having that in the same i guess it would be 2023 i didn't even think about it within 12 months it's good to know
Starting point is 01:50:25 that i'm so far inside your head hank that's all you can think about when duke lost i just i mean it's comparable on coach it's very comparable and then in the final biggest rivalry in each sport they've never played each other in the postseason yeah title so it's not really comparable true okay billy my sue's back is the holidays just been getting i got other ones but just like i'm getting that vibe again yeah it's 20 days oh no that's uh that's scary what it's 20 days till christmas i think 13 days till hank is just like it's you get that like magic when's the start the gift giving season yeah good question hank yeah what is that really uh quant quanta starts and is that part of this year where you don't even have 21 days you can just like stop doing
Starting point is 01:51:10 stuff no no that's oh come on it's just like isn't it fun to get into the holiday spirit right yeah yeah you know like see you next year with the best part of that holiday is problem is if if you have an office job you basically don't have to do shit in between november 25th and then and then like january 3rd it just it's out of office season is what it is yeah deal with it next year you know what let's uh mule tide cheer i'm gonna loop back with them actually uh after the holidays so let's touch base after the holidays things are hectic right now things are crazy everything's crazy like pretend you know how it goes like holiday season you do like the fake like oh can we uh how about december like 16th in the afternoon oh that doesn't work for you oh okay well then
Starting point is 01:51:50 let's just do it after the holidays yeah that's throw out a fake date in the middle of december and if that doesn't work it's immediately all right january 10th no business has ever gotten done in between thanksgiving and new year's day no that's one of the first things that the irs looks for an audit if you report income from like sales or commissions between those time periods like nah that's cap yeah you're lying they call you a holiday season yeah i like it i'm gonna pretend that like i'm in a hallmark movie yourself yeah yeah try to find the true meaning you're really talking a big game about your christmas cheer this year i know i'm feeling i gotta bring it you gotta bring it you can't you can't say this and then just not have any sort of oh seasons greetings oh you
Starting point is 01:52:27 i bought everybody gifts oh okay yeah wow okay now yeah this is awesome uh we'll give it to you on on air you'll give it to us okay um we're gonna chance that billy has actually purchased we will eventually i do i have them i've actually made plans for them bunch of lucy yep made plans for the gifts yep uh if my other who's back is uh downfield laterals uh in the minnesota's triple a state championship saw this awesome very awesome play new london spicer uh won the game on a downfield lateral pft i think you'd be proud the atmosphere in there was unbelievable yeah one of the stadiums it was in us thanks yeah it was a really great stadium it was like can you imagine though if they had played that game at deal in tennessee though no that probably would have been like a
Starting point is 01:53:11 little bit better i've actually been to way more stadiums than i thought about it i've been more six we sat with six f i said division one not games that you played in yeah okay all right there's a great downfield lateral it was it was sick jake wrap us up uh my who's back the texas rangers yeah we had some late breaking news in the mlb front on friday night one of if not the best pitchers in baseball jacob the grom has left the new york mets one hell never plays five year one hundred and eighty five million dollar contract with the texas rangers a lot of money and the winter meetings start this week erin judge can make his decision any second they'll be not freaking out about it but anyways oh i saw this crazy picture earlier it was erin judge
Starting point is 01:53:53 he actually went to the 49ers game and he was wearing a 49ers uniform it is his hometown yeah and the picture might have also been from like six years ago but it was still it was still him going to a niner's game wearing a niner's uniform yeah so it's scary yeah also my official flex of the year picks for week 15 yeah uh because the deadline will be after the next show uh so there's five tbd games for week 15 apparently if i read it correctly there's gonna be three saturday games a one four thirty and eight fifteen kind of like thanksgiving um so the five tbd games are dolphin's bills ravens browns colt's vikings falcons saints giants commanders so i'm saying the saturday early game is going to be i have it in my draft ravens browns ravens at browns
Starting point is 01:54:45 oh i disagree here's the thing you wouldn't want to stand alone dish on watching it's either that or say you think you're it's gonna take saints falcons why wouldn't they take commanders because that's the saturday night game okay what's the saturday afternoon game colt's vikings and then they're gonna flex saturday night game giants commanders and what's wasn't there another game in there yeah saints falcons i'm saying they're gonna do sunday early okay is there bills yeah bills dolphins is one of those tbd games but i'm saying they're gonna flex that saturday night but i'm saying they're gonna flex that to sunday night no i think that's saturday night yeah no i i don't know i think bills dolphins yeah but sunday night football already has such a big audience
Starting point is 01:55:24 you might you know there are more of an audience if you do them on saturday night you know the regular schedule yeah um like giants commanders would still get a good draw sunday night yeah there's eagles bears dolphins saturday there's cowboy dags chiefs oh bangles bucks i feel like that could be the you're all over protected uh this is we need a we need a i'm tweeting it out in the morning yeah all right okay all right we're through it out right now or in the morning yeah morning all right yeah we'll see all right on the record on the show but how just explain to me like using confidence points how confident are you in these games i'd be stunned if giants commanders or dolphins bills weren't flexing to sunday night football instead of patriots we also need to
Starting point is 01:56:08 hold you accountable for these yeah i'm i think at this i don't know how to be hard on yourself you're doing a great job yeah you got your score got me today have you ever got one what a flattery ball yeah uh no have you ever gotten a lottery ball i'm over two you're over have you ever gotten a lottery ball hank yeah right now three right now three no you aren't three i'm gonna take 17 i'll take 71 73 because that's total points and tonight's gone 60 love that max 20 you've ever gotten it shout out to alex andy and jim wait let me check sabastian he emailed me i'm ready for sabastian take your money by the way i was looking up the pete carol record against other coaches no one's really been there long enough to have anything
Starting point is 01:56:55 substantial except jim harbaugh and they actually have a huge rivalry going back to college football yeah stanford u.s.c. sabastian at 63 no one no no one take that right i have 71 okay i have 73 73 three three three three three oh you're taking memes number wow wow what does that even mean 47 huh not even close not even close to close you're a fucking loser 47 is a 47 is a hot number we now have a three-way tie for first place 47 joins 52 and 64 for nine times this doesn't count this doesn't count you're a sick fuck this doesn't count big they big they own 90 p carol big they's like seven seven and one against p carol who so who does p carol own he doesn't know how to
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