Pardon My Take - NFL Week 14, Fastest 2 Minutes, Cowboys Whomp The Eagles, Bills Stay Alive And Shohei Signs For 700 Million
Episode Date: December 11, 2023NFL Week 14 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes then recap every game from Sunday with Sunday Night Football mixed in (00:00:00-00:09:47) Ravens 37, Rams 31 (00:09:47-00:22:07) Browns 31, Jaguars... 27 (00:22:07-00:30:59) Bengals 34, Colts 14 (00:30:59- 00:38:48) Bucs 29, Falcons 25 (00:38:48-00:47:01) Bears 28, Lions 13 (00:47:01-00:57:29) Saints 28, Panthers 6 (00:57:29-01:04:16) Jets 30, Texans 6 (01:04:16-01:09:14) Vikings 3, Raiders 0 (01:09:14-01:17:52) 49ers 28, Seahawks 16 (01:17:52-01:33:20) Broncos 24, Chargers 7 (01:33:20-01:38:13) Bills 20, Chiefs 17 (01:38:13-01:57:07) We then talk Shohei Ohtani, Lebron winning the In Season Tournament, Jayden Daniels Heisman and more. (01:57:07-02:12:33)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take week 14 in the NFL,
we've got some great games to discuss.
The bills stay alive.
The Ravens look like maybe the one seed, depending on what the dolphins do.
We're going to talk Sunday night football. We also got to talk show Hey 700
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Week 14!
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A Josh Dennis Reynolds touchdown
was the last scoring the Lions would do
as Detroit's Dennis system stands for defense.
Eh, no, no, I don't know.
Sometimes?
And the Bears are back.
Bears 28, Lions 13.
What, what?
Over to Cleveland, where are the Cleveland Browns have no limit to their Super Bowl hopes behind their not so juvenile
quarterback Joey looks good. Would you flack that ass up? You got David and Joker would you flack that ass up?
Browns and the playoffs would you flack that ass up?
Joe who's you playing with flack that ass up?
Trevor Bauer Lawrence's injuries were not nearly the same as originally
reported in the media as he connected twice with the goatcy Evan Ingram to really stretch
out the browns red zone. Kevin Spacey Stepansky took advantage of the young Jags D and don't
tell nobody but Cleveland is thinking Yoffs. The Browns 31, the Jag wars 27, playoffs, playoffs, playoffs, playoffs.
In Cincinnati, where we had the marquee matchup
of Gardiner and Browning, also known as an Italian
picking tomatoes in the summer,
Ronnie Harrison Ford crashed into a Bengals player
and took away the ball, landing safely in the end zone
to make it 14-14, going into halftime.
That's when the Bengals used their secret weapon,
lacrosse player and Yacht Club member Tanner Hudson
to take the lead 21-14 and never look back.
Are the Bengals on a magical run?
Huh?
Cut.
Bengals 31, Colts 14.
We go down to Atlanta where Desmond Shitter
soiled the Dirty Bird's diaper once again,
despite the best effort of Drake London
who tried to get his hands on a millibobbly brown balls
Lake or Mayfield is looking to win the meaningless in season tournament that is the NFC South and as bad as these Falcons look
Bijan F Kennedy Robinson shouldn't be planning any parades anytime soon running for only 34 yards
Rashad Walter White met the round and cooked up a whole bunch of speed as Todd Pohl's stood
absolutely still like a Hank Lockwood design parking lot and let Arthur Smith's team drive
right into him.
Bucks win 29-25.
Coming over to the AFC East, we have our correspondent Meeans in the Metallands.
We head to a soggy MetLife Stadium where Zach Wilson said,
I'm tired of this, Grance-A-Law.
Well, that's too damn bad, you keep playing.
Garrett Owen Wilson said, wow.
Look what happens when they finally throw me the ball.
Randall Coby-Dale found himself
free in the end zone for a touchdown.
Will McDonald had a sack, EI-EI-O,
and with that sackeder came a win. EI-EI and with that sector came a win EI EIO jets 30
Texan 6 back to the games. Thank you memes from from metal and sticking on the East Coast
We go to Baltimore where the Ravens answer the question are they likely to miss mark Andrews with the resounding
No as Isaiah scored early the Rams offense featuring Cooper, one cup, made the Ravens defense want a puke
Most of Sunday, but the game went to overtime where Thailand Rashid Wallace said ball don't lie and returned a punt for the walkoff
Proving Lamar's jakes in was the best in the office today Ravens 37 Rams 31
We go out to the bay where Brock O' Party bastard hot one hot two
Huttory hot O' Party bastard live and uncut the Seahawks released their drool clear missile as Drew Locke came out firing in the first drive and
Hit DK Adams
Metcalf for a touchdown trying to shut the door on the Niners like it was an oversized suitcase
door on the Niners like it was an oversized suitcase. Placebo Samuel said, I want you to take two and call me in the morning as he came for
Seahawks a having dose of ass whooping.
The Niners 28, the Seahawks 16.
We finish in Scanzas City where Rashid Condoleezza Rice was tipped off ahead of time about the
threat of the Buffalo Bill Kitas to no avail.
The game came down to the last drive where Patrick Mahomes came up short and was furious at the rest of the Buffalo Bill Kitas to no avail. The game came down to the last drive,
where Patrick Mahomes came up short
and was furious at the rest after the game.
We go down to the sideline with Patrick.
Patrick, I'm just so ticked off with John McGurbett, man.
Hey, you know the bills are,
they're building seven games in the wing column now.
That's what Chris Alex Jones was saying.
And if it wasn't for that Patriot acting late October they would be in the playoffs.
Meanwhile Roger Daniel loves the bills he sure does.
He's reading my pet goat and it's all about Josh Allen the way they were protecting him
today out there.
I rock my brain and I think we were so distracted by the NFL we messed out on the NBA mid-season
tournament and Halibut and goblin up all the profits.
I think back to 2000 election, Jess Lacko, saw him in Loving, Sean McDermott saw himself
the middle of the East and now he's going to New York with a W in his pocket.
That's how I'm just ticked off.
Thank you Patrick, those patch were homes from the sideline. Bill's 20, Chief 17.
Standing on a corner, James Winston down in Ola. Such a fine side to see.
It's a broken rib, my Lord, another broken rib, my Lord.
And I had a broken rib for the Saints QV it's Jimmy Graham
He's a man
People forget that he's a ginger and his whole the sham
The Saints go marching
28
Six I think that was a score
286 I was right and that is week
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Okay week 14 in the books we are watching Sunday night football live on the show. So everyone who wanted max reactions, you'll get them.
We also, before we get into all the games, PFT, we're in a weird situation where usually
I'm the one trolling max.
You partake as well, but it's actually Hank right now.
It's Hank first max.
Cowboys fan, Hank has come out of hibernation for this game for this big
Semonite football game. I think for the rest of the year. For the rest of the year. Yeah. I just
love the people with Dallas. It's a great fan base, great fans. You do. Yeah. You certainly do.
But you you show them a lot of affection. Yeah. No, that's a great. I just kind of realized
it was fun last year and I'm ready to get back on and ride. Why aren't you wearing the outfit though?
Where are the Jorts? Uh, I don't know where the George's are.
The George are my apartment.
Shane has the the DAC jersey.
I probably have to get some.
I'm gonna get some new gear though.
About your earring.
We got ride your boys.
Yeah. It's time to fill the animal.
That's the season.
It's time to ride our boys.
I love it.
I love it.
All right. So yeah, we will update the game.
It's 27 13 right now heading into the fourth quarter.
We will update it. Max's quit like sixteen different time
looks isn't cry he looks like he's gonna cry he's got his resting cry face on
uh... he he's looks as greasy as ever just
it's a bad scene for max if the eagles can't have a heroic comeback so so
the cowboys just punted and that was their first time punting the ball
and i believe it's seventeen drives So the cowboy is Jess Pondid, and that was their first time Ponding the ball. And I believe 17 drives.
So that goes back to Thanksgiving.
The, their last Pond was the third quarter
against the Washington commanders on Thanksgiving.
And so the first half was just a butt kicking,
but it looks like the Eagles, the Eagles found a spark.
Yeah, they did.
Even though Max isn't paying attention to it.
The Vante Smith just dropped the touchdown.
Make sure you just put memes.
Can you cut to Max's face just so people can get a sense
of the rest in cry face that we're looking at?
I just want people to be able to see it.
Just my face.
No, your face looks like it's going to cry at all times.
All right, but we'll get to it once the game goes final
and if there's a big play, we'll,
oh, there's the cry face.
He's crying again.
Let's get into some games, PFT.
This was a fun Sunday.
It was a very fun Sunday.
It was a fun, fun Sunday.
A lot of good games, a lot of bad games that were good.
Yeah, exactly.
And there was no better game in the early slate
than the Ravens 37, Rams 31.
That was an awesome, awesome game.
Like it was, it was a lot of fun to watch
We've had a couple Sundays where it started slow
But it felt like this game was good from the jump and the Ravens now have a stranglehold on the one seed
Obviously the dolphins still have to play but it will be they play each other in a couple weeks
But with the chiefs losing in the Jags losing it's really down to the Ravens and the dolphins for the one seed, or when they had to have, and they got with a punt return walkoff, which
is one of the most electric things that can happen in sports. Yeah. And I'd say that
this is a moral victory for the Rams, too. Yes. Rams played tough. Rams are probably
pretty pumped to go to overtime against the Ravens. And they played a good game. It didn't
feel like it was a fluke. They've got great players. Pukin, Nukua playing in this game
in the dog
shit precipitation with no gloves on. No gloves.
Saped his fingers. He's a dog. He's a dog that one diving catch that he had. I'm putting
that. That's my catch of the year so far. Wow. When you take into account everything
around it with the weather and the stage and who was against. That's my catch of the
year so far with Pukin, Nukua. That was an unbelievable catch and he's so much fun to
watch.
And yeah, I, we,
because we were watching all the games,
so then when they show that play and we all gasped
at him catching that and then in slow motion like,
wait, he's not wearing gloves.
What the fuck?
Feels better, skin on skin.
I don't understand that because the way they make
the receiver gloves now, it's,
it is like the easiest thing to catch a ball.
Yeah, he's playing the game on expert mode right now.
That's how good his work his season's been. Yeah, he's playing the game on expert mode right now. That's how good his rookie season has been.
Yeah.
But I did, I wrote down, Rams played tough.
Like that was a game.
We've seen it with the Ravens.
They've hosted a couple teams that were, quote, unquote,
for real with the Lions and the Seahawks and absolutely killed them.
There was a chance going into this day,
whereas like this could happen again to the Rams.
They, they went toe, toe to toe with them. It really was just kind of clock management at the end. And then that delay a game
they took in overtime to make it from a fourth and four to a fourth and or sorry, a third
and four to a fourth and nine and having to punt. That was the game. It was like little
minor errors where the game was high played. So it was like, you can't they also blew like
three coverages where the where it felt like the Ravens had multiple times where
guys were just wide open. Likely was wide open on that.
Wide open. That's that was he was college open. Yes.
We also had a couple great just small moments in the game.
Lamar kicking the ball into the stands. He kicked the fuck out of that ball.
Also is Lamar ambidextrous? I think so.
So that's the second time we've seen him kick a ball and they both have been left footed.
So I'm pretty sure that Lamar Jackson is better
with his off hand than like 99% of the population is
with their strong hand or foot.
Because he did that, I think it was like a year or two ago.
It was a play that was whistle dead and he punted it
and he punted it with his left foot.
And then today he punted the, or he kicked the safety out
with his left foot.
He might, he should start throwing left or kicking.
Well, actually, no, so Justin Tucker, we said last week, young way coup surpassed him as
most active kicker in the NFL.
Yeah.
Tucker took it back.
Yeah.
He heard the people talking.
He took it back this week.
That was nice to see.
I don't think like young way coups off to a nice star, but Justin Tucker's, at one point,
was worth the first round pick as a kicker.
Yeah.
No more, but also we had a great challenge
to throw from Harbaugh.
Harbaugh really let him.
He let him.
He absolutely launched it.
I would try to hit the ref if I was a coach
and I had a challenge flag.
Where are you at with the Ravens?
I feel like the Ravens are the team in the AFC now
that has maybe the least amount of
because of the dolphins, I believe in the dolphins, but you can all make the argument.
They still have not beaten a team over 500.
The Ravens at their best have looked really, really good.
And they also, in a weird twist of fate, seem like the team that is the healthiest.
I was just crazy.
I was crazy.
What happened to Hamiltonton?
Although Mark Andrews is out and that is big.
But Hamilton went out. Hamilton went out with a knee injury. Yeah. But the quarterback. They're getting
they're getting healthier. Right. And they're going to get a big free agent pick up in Andrews. Yes.
The season. So yeah, no, I believe in the Ravens. I think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC.
It's the number of the dolphins that we get to find out in a couple weeks. Yeah, we're going to find out.
But as of right now, gun to my head. Ray Ravens, their defense.
Yes.
And this is just a more of a credit to Sean McVague.
Cause he, it feels like we should do the conversation.
This might be Sean McVague's best coaching job because it is a group that is not like star
studded.
It's not like the Super Bowl team.
They're defense a lot of young guys in Aaron Donald.
And they're offense. I mean, guys in Aaron Donald and their offense,
I mean, Pukin and Koo is what a fifth rounder and it just in Kyron Williams like they, they
just time and time again, Chameleon, just schemes everyone open and has an offense work that
is incredible. And they've got draft picks this year. I mean, they're going to have some stuff
to bundle up and trade for an active player. I also, this has nothing to do with the actual football game,
but it's just as important.
I love when a coach, when there's bad weather,
decides to go full on deadliest catch outfit.
And Sean McVeigh did that today.
He had the full blue rain suit.
Looking like he was about to, like, perfect storm,
just to hit the biggest hurricane ever.
And I think a rain for maybe like a quarter.
I like that too.
They just look so funny.
I'm gonna go one of two ways, I think with it.
One, I like when you get dressed up in a poncho.
Yeah.
And you look like you're going to a Gallagher concert.
The second way I like is when the coach just pretends that the weather doesn't exist.
Yes.
Like, Dave will's done that a few times.
Yes.
Where he's just like, you know what?
I'm just gonna head butt the rain until the rain quits.
Yeah.
And stay here and make it hit me until it's sick of hitting me.
Speaking of that, Aaron Donald, when he's getting like triple team over the course of a game
on almost every play, do you think at any point the offense alignment feel bad when there
is just three of them beating this shit out of them?
Every single set.
No, because then he just turns around and beats the shit out of them next time that he has a chance. Every time he gets the opportunity.
Yeah, I think they're like, this is this is nice that we finally have have a chance to beat his
ass. The game plan was just don't let Aaron Donald beat you. Yeah, that's that's what the Ravens
are trying to do with their offensive line. But yeah, no, I think I think the Ravens are the best
team in the FC. I think I would say that better than the dolphins right now we'll see what happens with them. But yeah, Ravens are legit legit. And also that on the
challenge flag that Harbaugh threw, it was my favorite kind of coaches challenge which
was he was just mad at the result of the play, which was a touchdown.
Right. A very obvious touchdown. And he just needed to get some rage out real quick. So
yes. He threw the challenge flag about 50 yards. They looked at it for like 10 seconds and said, yeah, that's definitely touched on. Sorry. Yeah. And the Ravens by the way, they have a
tough schedule coming up. So we'll find out how for real they are, which I do, I agree with you.
I think they're the best team in the SC right now. They go at Jaguar, some of the football
Niners Dolphin Steelers. Steelers not so much. I also, we've been talking about it speaking in
the Steelers teams that we don't want to see in the playoffs. I also we've been talking about it speaking in the Steelers
Teams that we don't want to see in the playoffs. I do want to see the Rams in the playoffs
It are you saying if you're another if you're an NFC team? No, just in terms of enjoyment of the guys I thought you were in the you don't want to see them in the
No, no, no, I'm saying enjoyment of the playoffs like first round matchups. We the Rams is a team
The Rams are a team that I wouldn't mind watching play more football. Yeah, I don't really want to see the Vikings or the Seahawks. No offense about those teams
play more football because I feel like the Rams have just a different gear that they
can is probably just because of the quarterback when I mentioned the Seahawks and the Vikings.
Like Stafford could beat anyone if he's on his A plus game. Stafford did a very unnecessary sidearm
pass today. Yeah. You like to whip that out every now and then. It's kind of like a, it's
like I want to, you know what? I want to give Dan Olavsky some red meat so that he can really
glaze me up when he sees me on NFL live this week. So let's just do a sidearm pass for no
reason. It was kind of a LeBron No look where he does the No look where he's looking and
then he just whips his head at the last second. Yeah. he kind of did that where he was definitely looking to the sidearm
and then whip this head around like see that.
No look.
But to your point, looking at the NFC, there's really no team that I want to see
fill that last spot in the NFC.
So if I were to say pick one of them probably probably the ramp.
I'm just talking, yeah, enjoyment of watching football.
Definitely nobody from the NFC South.
I hope nobody makes it from that division.
Yeah, I hope they just eliminate not green, but you know who I'd like to see. Yeah, the Chicago
Bears Chicago Bears. We can talk about it a little bit. It's possible. I've I've I've charted out a
path. It's possible. I've charted out. It's unlike or possible. I guess the real questions would
you rather see the Rams or the Seahawks in the playoffs? And the answer is the Rams. The answer is
the Rams. The answer is the Rams. Okay, next game. on no true lock no true lock big gap before dolphins swear it comes after you
they're went over the Broncos is now against the team over 500 no they didn't beat a
team over 500 at the time what the time yeah yeah that's when it counts yeah I
guess I mean yeah you got to beat a team it's good at the time over 500 no you
got it it's at the time at the time yeah and I think what the close it's the time you play them.
The Raiders were the close yeah, but now it's a good win.
No, it's got to be when you play them.
They have to be over five.
No, because because those Broncos were not these Broncos.
Right.
Yeah, but there's not Broncos.
No, no, no, no, it's gotta be fucking me.
That was a flag.
Shit.
That was a flag.
All right. That was a flag. That was a flag.
All right.
That was a flag.
Yeah, you have to be over 500 when you play them.
That's beating a team.
I mean, yeah, I guess it's different.
They beat a team under 500.
Right, but if this is college, it's not.
Well, it's a good win.
You're trying to net rating?
Yeah.
And turn it on now.
And turn it on now.
Turn it on to the computers.
The Quad-1s, Quad-2s.
And move to the Quad-1 win now.
Now it's favorable. And you beat Quad quad one team by 50 max max talk to us max
Talk to us max
Use your words. I mean the cow was gone bailed out on every fucking drive. Yeah, that was the cry
That sounded like it was not live max. I sounded like it was a max soundboard. Yeah
That's AI we should start we should make a max sound board. I it was a max soundboard. Yeah, that was last time. That's AI. We should start.
Yeah, like a max soundboard.
We need a max. I would love a max soundboard going.
Yes. I love the yes.
Yes.
He's closing the gap on Marv Albert for best yes, champ. Yeah, he haven't heard any really in the last two weeks.
So he's been void of yeses.
Okay, next game up.
Browns 31 Jaguars, 27.
Joe Flacco, Elite, three game up, Brown's 31 Jaguars, 27 Joe Flacco.
Elite, three touchdowns, 26 for 45, only one bad Joe Flacco pass, interception.
Joe Flacco, he's commanding the Browns offense
and he has been named starter for the rest of the year.
Yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves a little bit.
I think we all just assumed he was going to be
starter for the rest of the year. I said out's, we're getting ahead of ourselves a little bit. I think we all just assumed he was going to be starter for the rest of the year.
I said out and say it out loud, it's a different thing.
I said that Kevin Savancey should not have done that
because the Browns quarterbacking is like the drummer
for spinal tap this year where it's like as soon as you name
a starter, they get injured.
So I hope that doesn't happen until Flacco.
Yeah, but yeah, you could have just,
you could have just let it go.
If you're, if you're a Browns quarterback in general,
it's like you're an extra and final destination.
Yeah, it's a matter of when, not if.
That jersey is gonna look sick with Flacco on it, though.
That's a great name to just look back on
and remember for a while.
Yeah, and it's also, so the Browns now have won a game
with four different starters this year.
Yeah, that's perseverance.
So from Brown's PR, Joe Flacco was the first Brown
to throw three touchdown passes of at
least 30 yards in the same game since any guess one.
1980.
Long time.
I would not have gone 90 long time.
You remember Brian Sipe?
Yep.
You remember Brian Sipe, that legend.
Dude, he's so long it.
Yeah, 43 years since the Browns have done that.
Flacco is, Flacco's taking this offense and put in demon time. Yeah.
Because the offense is moving the ball well. Flacco can still sling it. He was moving around
a little bit today. He's like playing his way back into shape. Yeah. Where he's, he's
like, oh, yeah, this is what running is. Well, more than anything, it is the Joe Flacco
can, you know, read a defense. He knows when a blitz is coming. Like, and I'm not, that's
not a knock on DTR and PJ Walker, but Joe Flacco has seen a lot of football. So like little things
I think one of those long touchdowns is like a third and one where they tried to blitz and he saw it and like
Perfectly read it and it's like those are plays that Joe Flacco can give you that maybe one of these younger quarterbacks
Isn't really there to do it for and because the Browns have a defense as good as they do, which is a lead at home and they're banged up.
They didn't have Denzel Ward today.
They didn't have Juan Thornhill.
Miles Garrett still banged up and they still were taking the ball away, making Trevor Lawrence
like, what do you have three picks?
Yeah.
J.L.K. was outstanding today.
Yeah.
They're just a really good football team,
and I'm excited for Brown's fans.
They are.
Flacco is now 10 and two in that stadium,
the time.
And the thing about Joe is,
he doesn't really have any emotions whatsoever.
Like when he won the Super Bowl, he like smiled.
Right.
And he thought it was a McDonald's.
I'm about to get $200 million,
which was pretty cool and he smiled.
He gave us that.
But when he's under pressure,
when there's guys blitzing him,
he doesn't really panic because his resting heart rate
is just constantly like 50 beats per minute,
whether he's winning a Super Bowl
or whether he's getting eaten alive
by Josh Allen on the defense line.
So he was, he was, what we expect Joe to be.
He's what I expect Joe to be.
Miles Garrett agrees.
They asked him about Joe Flacco's play.
He just smiled and said he's elite. He's elite. He's elite. I call him a baldeningers cat because
he's both elite and not elite at the same time. And he makes everybody furious, depending
on what your take on Joe Flacco is. And here's how the conversation always goes. Is Joe
Flacco elite? Yes. Why? He won a Super Bowl. So to Trent Delfer. Yeah. And that's the end of that. That's it. That's it. Every single time. Or no, he won a Super Bowl So did Trent Delphur. Yeah, and that's the end of that. That's it. That's it every single time or no
He won a Super but he won a Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, but so did Trent Delphur and then that's the end
Yeah, you can you can do like a chart
It's choose or no
It always ends up with so did Trent Delphur
It's choose your own adventure in a flow chart and the last one
Can we make that chart actually your guide to having to talking to your family about Joe Flack?
Yeah, this is why we talked about Trent Delfor flipping out
on sidelines.
I think that he has rage just because he always is the ending
of the Joe Flacco conversation.
Yeah.
Trent Delfor when he saw Joe Flacco coming back was like,
God fucking dammit.
Yeah.
Now we're going to do this again.
We're just going to talk about the fact that I want a
Super Bowl, but it wasn't me, it was a defense.
Yeah, if you look at the outcome of that Super Bowl,
the person that had the worst was not cappardic.
It was not horrible.
I should say, Jim Harbaugh.
The person who had it the worst
was Trent Dillford without a doubt.
Yes, yes.
And Joe Flacco was a lot better than Trent Dillford.
Way better.
That pass he made in Denver.
Way better.
But yeah, the Browns are for real. Now the Jaguars, on the other side, was a lot better than Trent Delphine. Way better. That pass he made in Denver. Way better.
But yes, the Browns are for real.
Now the Jaguars on the other side, their defense has gone away.
That was the thing that, you know, I think a lot of people early in the season like, wow,
the Jags defense, like, it's paired with Trevor Lawrence.
And Trevor Lawrence wasn't good today.
I don't, I still don't know what happened with his ankle.
It felt like maybe he shouldn't have played because he didn't play well
He played well at the end like he put together a couple drives the end, but
The Jaguars feel like they're smoking mirrors team. Yeah, and it's starting to we're starting to kind of get through the fog
And we're like hey, wait a second. Why did we anoint the Jaguars? Oh, cuz Pete Prisco
I was gonna say the the reason why we're having that conversation about the Jaguars
We shouldn't be talking about the Jaguars as being frauds.
We should be talking about the Jaguars in terms of taking that next step.
This year's the next step year for the Jaguars, but because Prisco had to open his big mouth about it,
now we're looking at as the Jaguars are frauds.
Yeah, but it's all about perspective.
Pete skewed everybody's perspective with his Jaguar Super Bowl talk.
But the next step would be winning two playoff games.
I don't see them winning two playoff games.
Do you?
No.
They would have to, right, if the playoff started today,
they would play the Brown.
You could make the case that the next step
is not necessarily winning those playoff games,
but just putting up like 11 wins in a season.
Yeah, but they did win a playoff game, I should.
They did.
And they, you know, they went and played against the Chiefs
and admirably, they showed up.
I was in adm, it was admirable performance.
They showed up.
They put together those terrible uniforms.
They have some bad uniforms.
They had one great half a football
in the playoffs last year.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I just don't, I don't really take the Jaguars
for real. Yeah.
Let me ask you this.
It's unfortunate, because I like, you know, I love our guy chaps.
We know dogs.
Do balls seems like the coolest place.
They have another night game.
If they can beat the Ravens on Sunday night, it kind of is a pivot point for the whole season.
It's changed back on track.
But right now, as it stands, let me ask you this, who do you think would win in a playoff
game, the Browns or the Jaguars?
I would say the Browns. I think the Browns or the Jaguars? I would say the Browns.
I think the Browns could beat the Jaguars.
I think the Browns could beat the Jaguars.
I mean, all the Browns defense is not the same on the road.
I mean, a lot of people are saying that, like,
Ken Joe Flacco win against a good team like the Jaguars.
I don't know if he can or not,
but if they were to play in the playoffs,
I think he might be able to say,
one out.
I'd agree with you there.
Okay.
What?
Four points.
Four points, yeah.
And Doug Peterson, that was a a he went for two. I
kind of liked it. So it was twenty one. It was thirty one twenty one. They scored a touchdown with a
minute left and he went for two to try to make it a two point game instead of a four point game or
instead of a three point game. Uh, didn't get it. I actually liked it because you need it. It was
all resting on the onside kick anyway. And if you get the two, you can win with a feel goal.
I don't know if I like it or not.
I kinda liked it.
I can't remember the last time a coach did that.
I think the reason why I liked it was because the way they've made onside kicks now, it's impossible.
So he kinda was like, this doesn't really fucking matter anyway.
Right.
Well, I liked it personally because I picked the browns and it was a three point spread.
Yes.
And so that was very, very beneficial for me,
very, very detrimental to Hank.
Yes.
So unfortunately is, he's not looking great.
What's it do with these peanuts?
Yeah, I'm ready.
I'm ready to do, to start grinding.
Okay.
Grinding some tape.
Full, not over yet.
Not over yet.
It's over.
What do you mean grind some tape?
I'm watching. I, you're gonna watch standup.
You're gonna steal other people's jokes.
You should do that.
You should you should not
do that. No, I like is whole set.
Word for word. I don't cover comedian.
I'm obviously standing up, but I wouldn't say it's like a huge, huge,
you know, thing that I watch in my free time. Like I've been to a couple shows I've watched a couple standups
But I'm not super super familiar with the art. Mm-hmm tells joke
Eagles defense
It's good. Yeah, that's a good. That's pretty good get get ready to learn funny buddy. That's good. That's really good
Okay, next game.
I'm saying to end up roasting you guys.
That was nice.
So play the hits.
I don't know what else I had,
I just can't do that for an hour, but that's really,
that's low hanging fruit, Hank.
Just go full troll, really sad.
Really sad of you.
It's just an hour's a long time.
It's fine, I'm excited.
It's a long time.
Not gonna complain.
Let's pretend right now, okay. Your stand-up set starts right now
And I'll let you know when it ended. Okay. Okay. Okay
Bengals 34 Colts 14
The Bengals the team destiny Jake Browning looked pretty good. Dude
We should Zactaylor needs appreciation because like watching it, watching the Bengals play,
I know Jake Browning is look good and he deserves a lot of credit.
He actually, he's 79.3% completion percentage in his first three starts,
which is the highest quarterbacks ever had in their first three starts since 1950.
I don't know what happened in 1950. I feel like all stats just stop in 1950.
Norman Venn Brocklin. Yeah, that's just, it's Sammy Baugh.
It's like Sid Luckman.
It's just all stopped at 1950.
But Zack Taylor, like the way he's scheming, he's like,
hey, I have a lot of really good players.
Who cares that I don't have Joe, Joe Burrow,
like we got to make something out of this.
Let's just scheme up all of our good players
getting the ball in space and let Jake Browning
just make easy passes.
He made some very easy passes today. So I agree with you.
Zach Taylor is doing a great job. Chase Brown hit 22 miles an hour on that screen pass where he just took off.
Like how can you have a fast guy like that and not really use him?
Right.
Tell your backups and I would have liked to see Chase Brown more frequently this season.
But Jake Browning, there was a momentary scare that we had with Jake Browning, where we
thought that he took our advice and he just decided he was going to fake an injury.
Yeah, he had a thumb in.
And then get paid.
He said he went to the locker room, he was dehydrated.
He got an IV and then he just sat there being pissed off because he was cramped up.
And then he was just like staring as IV angry, like waiting to get back.
And then he was done, he came back in, aging McCarran hit the bricks, and then it was, it was, it was time for him to just
take back over. And he's getting cramped up. You know what? I'm going to put him in the
moxie conversation. Yeah. I think he's, I think he's got good moxie. And I also think
the Bengals, like that win on Monday night, rejuvenize their season. And they're now sitting
here and being like, Hey, wait, we could, we're still a really good football team.
You know, let's not be the FSU here.
Yeah, we could still make the playoffs.
I think they definitely could.
By the way, shout out Joe Burrow,
Nice Guy of the Week award, first ever on part of my take.
He gave his suite to Jake Browning's family.
That's amazing.
Nice guy of the week.
On his birthday, no less.
Wow. Nice guy of the week.
Joe is a very nice guy.
So that was a very cool thing to do.
As for the cults, I feel I felt like the cults like
Lucky bounce street kind of ran out and I thought it was gonna keep going when they got that pick six. Yeah
But the muff punt and then just you know, it felt like they were just you, running uphill for the entire second half.
I hope that the cults, the cults are in my fun team category.
Shane Steikin is a great coach, but it did feel like the lucky bounces kind of ran out
for them.
I think they're still in the fun team category.
Yeah.
They're in the fun team category.
Yeah.
Did they score, it scored like 14 points in 10 seconds or something like that?
Oh, it was 25 seconds.
25 seconds.
Yeah.
So it's a touchdown in the pick six.
So Gardner Mitchell looked okay today.
Nothing special.
They ran out of gas in the second half.
Second half, it was all bangles all the time.
But I would still trust the Colts against exactly 50% of the teams in the AFC.
Yeah.
I think they're the perfectly average team, but they compete in fun ways.
They have no business being this good right now.
Yeah.
They're the exact average team.
Like if you're like, hey, who can beat everyone below them
and lose everyone above them?
The crazy thing is, I think if it more in terms of
who could beat the best teams if everything broke their way
and who could lose the worst teams if everything broke the wrong way.
So the colds beat the Ravens this season.
That's true. And I also wouldn't be surprised if they lost literally any team. Yeah, so they call it to beat the Ravens this season. That's true.
And I also wouldn't be surprised if they lost
a literally any team.
Yeah, that's also true.
Yeah.
Okay, next up.
Oh, no, no, Max.
That was a fumble.
Max, I think that was a fumble.
Are you going to say anything, Max?
Might have been down.
Max, are you going to say something?
I think he was down.
OK, there's 638 left in the game and the eagles are down 17.
It's bad for the over.
Oh yeah, no shit Hank.
No, he was definitely not down.
He might have been down.
His whole body was in...
So this is my first game of football I've watched Max.
When you got hairball, when you're down, what does that mean?
Right, I get it wasn't fucking down.
Talk about the game.
But wait, the football was down.
You got to look at two sides of the same play.
So it looked like he was not down yet,
but did he have possession?
Was that a catch?
Ooh, maybe not.
Maybe it wasn't a catch.
You guys aren't funny. You sure? Yeah, maybe not. Maybe it wasn't a catch. You guys aren't funny.
You sure?
Yeah, they are.
Thanks, Jake.
Thanks.
Very cool.
Approaching eight years.
You're such a bitch.
Wait, no, but seriously,
but when you say down,
does he have to, what does that mean?
If your whole body is in the air,
three feet above the ground
Is that down? No, he was not down. It was a fumble. Oh, was there a clear recovery?
Yes, there's a clear recovery. Oh, fuck. By which team?
The cab this is the cab was bad enough and which team are you rooting for?
First take up only one
Any more hiccups. No. Okay. Uh, you want us to continue? Yeah, I would love for you to continue. Okay. Well, there is commercial over there. Commercial.
No, it's not over. We've not over the Eagles don't give up. Rocky. They lost on Rocky
day. There's been a one today's Rocky day. Do you think this game would have gone different if Tom was there?
I know they won on Rocky day.
Yeah.
Yeah, Tom, Tom not being on the sidelines obviously.
When Tom doesn't finish the game on the sideline.
But wait, was Tom allowed to coach during the week?
Yeah, he was.
Okay, so that's a little old.
He even was allowed to travel with the team.
Oh, he just couldn't be on the sideline.
Damn, damn.
Does every team have a dom on their
sideline? I don't know. What are we talking? No, I'm genuinely
curious. I don't talk about dom the Eagles. Did you really
forget what we were talking about? No. Okay, at least you guys
are going to be in first place after this game, right? Oh wait, I just did the playoff machine.
Oh no, don't tell me PFT. Don't give me bad news. Not right now.
First seed is the Niners. It says second seed is a Cowboys.
What? The fifth seed is the Eagles. Fifth? Fifth? What?
It's a fake, it's a fake fifth seed.
It's a fake we have played the Giants, yeah.
It's what it says, it's fifth seed. Wait, but the way the fake. We have to play the Giants, yes.
What it says is fit seed.
Wait, but the way the Eagles are playing right now is the Giants are guaranteed win.
Would you shut up and just continue with the games that were supposed to be talking about?
Well, how can you shut up and continue?
Are you playing at the Giants next week?
No, we play at Seattle next week, which we very well could be.
But then do you play at the Giants?
We have to play them both.
Oh, you haven't lost a game in Metalands, have you?
I don't know.
Like, you're so annoying.
Can you shut up and also continue talking, please?
I just want you to continue doing the part of the show
that we're supposed to be doing.
Okay, who decides that?
You, no. So what they're talking about be what is supposed to talk about.
No, this is what we're talking about right now.
It's actually the producer.
Yeah, the run down. Yeah, Max trees to run down every time.
We do a fully produced run down on every single show.
It's always given us topics. They're all on the side.
It's awesome. It's awesome. It's awesome the side. It's awesome. It's awesome.
Yeah.
The A block, now we're in the B block.
Yeah.
What are we going to talk about today, fellas?
I got some ideas.
LeBron, Zion is fat.
Are the Cowboys the best team in the industry?
Yes, it is.
The Smith tweet was the best.
I got a bell.
He's like, check out my new podcast.
Show, hey, Zion is fat.
All right.
Box 29, Falcon's 25.
Someone has to win the NFC South three way tie now.
The bucks technically own the they control their own destiny. So Baker with the game winning
drive. I don't know this like I just I'm so sick of watching NFC South football. I think
that they should only play each other. So you have to opt into NFC South games. Yeah.
If you really care about the decision, then you can watch it to be the Panthers playing against the Bucks,
Saints playing against the Falcons, and then they just rotate amongst themselves. And they should
put it on the Pac-12 network. Yeah. Make it a real effort for people. I don't want to accidentally
stumble across an NFC South Games. Exactly. It's just a chore every single time. Oh, that was a big
pass for the Cowboys. Oh my God. He caught it.
Max is probably happy, right? He's a Cowboys fan.
Oh, wait, he's a, no, he's favorite team is the Eagles. He's an eagle. I forgot.
Shit. A couple highlights from this game with the Bucks and the Falcons Goldberg.
Yes. Destroyed a Bucks fan. Yes. This planted them into the earth.
Probably got it. Broke a few ribs. Goldberg. I've got it broke a few ribs Goldberg should play still
They should let Goldberg play. Yeah, you can play football play to Georgia. Yeah, he's a good player
Yeah, also fun fact from this game the Bucks had nine players on the field for B. John Robinson's touchdown
Oh, so typically there was also there was also a Bucks touchdown
I think it was white who scored where it looked like the Falcons were like
Maybe had a bet who could not tackle him.
Yeah.
It all just kind of flailed around.
And he scored a touchdown.
But yeah, it was good for Baker. I'm happy for Baker.
I don't want to see an NFC South team.
I think we've said the Falcons just because of their names,
but I am so sick of watching Desmond Ritter play football.
Yeah, if it's high on a key, then I definitely want to see the playoffs.
That, that, Desmond Ritter, I know he played well in the fourth quarter.
Like both teams like, oh, shit, we got to try to win this game.
But the interception, the, the, the, the fumble in the end zone, uh, the,
miss past the B-john where it was so, it was a walk in touchdown and he missed them.
Mm-hmm.
I'm just kind of, I'm just kind of done with Desmond Ritter.
I think I'm just watching him play football.
I think pretty much everybody else out there
is done with Desmond Ritter.
I think, I think Falcon's fans understand.
It's enough.
Desmond Ritter is not the guy.
We've had enough.
We don't want any more Desmond Ritter.
We're asking, we're please asking out
of all future Desmond Ritter.
Now that said, if Kuh would made to his field goals
that he missed, different game.
True, but yeah, someone's got to win the NFC South.
Three way tie, all teams, what, six and seven?
Yep.
Six and seven, and the box control their own destiny,
which is crazy.
They are sitting right now in the four seed.
We're just gonna do this again,
where the box are gonna, although,
the box, if they get the four seed, who would they play? They'd play against the Eagles. Oh, right now.
Oh, that's actually a pretty good game. That's a good game. That's a good game. Easy game.
So you'd almost rather lose this game if you're the Eagles. Yeah. You go play the box, Max. Round one.
No, that is not that is not how this works. No, it was I'm gonna get the fifth seat the two seat then they are the fifth seat.
If the season ended today, but it doesn't end today.
But last week it end last week it was all about how you had the one seat.
Yes, it was and we did have the one seed, now we don't.
So, great.
Great.
So what's up, you guys are fucking geniuses.
It's a playbook tonight.
The playbook is that this defense fucking sucks
and they can't hold on to the football.
And Dallas gets bailed out on every fucking drive
with either a penalty or picking up a flag,
which I've never seen someone call a hold
Throw the flag for the hold and then say you know what never mind
But they kicked our asses, so it doesn't really matter
Yeah
Quick poll because I'm just curious
PFT commanders were by week this week. Yep. It was great
Actually, we won the byweek because a lot of teams lost
that were closed to us, so we hang on to our spawn the draft.
Yeah, everyone won, but me, you're Jake.
Oh, I'm doing a poll.
Max, wait, Max, this is the chase.
Max, this Eagle's discussion is not about you.
I don't know how big your head needs to be.
Yeah, we're not just talking about the Eagles so much
to get under your skin personally.
We're a football podcast.
Yeah, and Jake, your team plays tomorrow.
So there's four teams that have played today.
The Jets must or this week.
The Jets lost.
And the Pagers must have lost.
And so the Bears, those teams stink.
Oh, underdogs.
Wait, raise your hand if your team won this week.
Yep, I'm gonna count that as a dub.
Okay. Big meaty dub.
Max, where's your, where?
Jake team didn't win yet.
Max, where's your hand?
You're team didn't win yet.
You're team didn't win either either I did you not listen to
the sports podcast that we're
doing we won because all the
teams around us the draft
happened to win we won because
the cheese lost Max your hand
wasn't raised is there an issue
Okay, let's take a break. We'll
talk about some more games Max needs a break. Let's take a break. We'll talk about some more games.
Max needs a break.
Let's take a break.
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Did the Eagles quit?
They didn't use any other timeouts.
Yeah, I think you know not so much quit as they wave the white flag.
They wave.
That's not quitting it's different.
I wouldn't quit. I would never quit.
But they got I have a reminder.
You have to drag me off the field.
You said December 11th.
Yeah. Eagles to win the Super Bowl.
No. No.
On the August.
I was right.
I was right about the getting the best price.
Yeah, because the schedule at this exact moment
credit to me for calling that because of the schedule, but no
They're not winning the Superl the defense just doesn't look right. They're not winning the Superl
All right, let's talk about a team that might win the Superl
Bears 28 lines 13 the bears are back. I'd say I'd say you guys
Could mathematically make the playoffs
So math math I'm not gonna get ahead of myself, but I'm totally going to get ahead of myself.
The Browns are going to be a very tough game.
But if the Bears can somehow win next week,
they play the Cardinals in the Falcons at home,
and then week 18 would be at Lambo with some implications.
And if you just took out September,
if you just pretended September didn't exist,
the Bears are actually a good football team.
Matt Eberfl, and Justin Fields, they have now won back-to-back games for the first time.
That's cool.
Wait, today was the first time?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, today was the first time.
And you're thinking about keeping both of them.
I don't think they're...
So we're in a problem because I don't think...
I think they're going to take KO Williams, which I'm all for.
Maddie for Fluss has done an incredible job with his defense.
I don't know what to say.
Like it's kind of hard to like the defense has been incredible.
It has like Monteswet.
I remember everyone laughing at that.
He was an absolute monster today.
Briskred 17 tackles.
The guys that, you know, the linebackers that polls
brought in have been good.
The defense is lights out and he is the defensive coordinator because our defense coordinator
somehow mysteriously left under very, very weird circumstances.
HR was involved.
So I guess we'll have to play the string out and see, but people have been like, hey,
don't you want to lose for taking?
No, no, we have the Panthers pick.
So I don't, I want the Bears.
This is when you have to start changing the culture.
This is when you have to start winning and being like,
hey, we could start winning some games.
You build off this, you build it for the next season.
Like this is when you do it.
Can I give you some advice as an unbiased outsider?
Yeah.
Take Halo Williams.
No, I think they will.
I'm all for it.
And get a brand new coach. I'm all for it. And get a brand new coach.
I'm all for it.
Justin Fields is great against the Lions.
He really is.
He's always running around.
But do not, do not fall into this.
No, I'm not.
If you win a few games, Justin Fields still want you to hear me
when I say that.
No, I know.
I want Caleb Williams.
If they win out this season.
Yeah.
I think they're going to.
And they're in the hunt.
I think they're going to keep Maddie overflused.
You should want Maddie overflused on the other side of the sun. I want him to be the defensive coordinator and just're in the hunt. I think they're gonna keep Mattie overflused. You should want Mattie overflused
on the other side of the sun.
I want him to be the defensive coordinator
and just take a demotion.
I don't know if that would be the best thing ever.
It would be great, but I don't know if it's possible
for that time.
That's why we need Harbong.
I'm just telling you, like Mattie overflused,
you're the DC now.
I'm just telling you,
we don't even have to tell as a friend,
I need you to know that you do not want
those guys back next year.
I don't think I want just feels back, but I do.
Maddie, you can't deny how good the defense is.
If it's great.
So, um, I, yes, kind of my head, I don't do not want them back, but I also have to see
what happens to the next.
If they, if they went out, what the fuck?
They're a good team.
Yeah, so it's, it's important for the other guys that are in that locker room to end
the season knowing that they can win football game
Yeah, that's gonna be big going in next year
But don't don't start thinking crazy on me and think that maybe Matt and you were loose has figured out how to become a great coach
It's defense is very very good very good defense
As for the Lions now Lions fans are gonna be mad at me because I actually said on Friday
I think the Bears can win this game. There are people who are like, you're an idiot.
You're so stupid.
I think what's happened is because the Bears were so bad in September and people rightfully
so through them in the trash and were like, this team sucks.
They haven't paid attention.
Obviously, I'm watching every game.
This team does not suck.
They're not good, but they're definitely not bad.
If you did a list of power rankings of all the teams in the league,
they're in the 20s somewhere, like, early 20s,
they're not in the 28, 29, 30 range,
which they were in September.
The Lions though, Lions fans are gonna be upset
because the intentional grounding call was bullshit
that then led to Aiden Hutchinson jumping off side
and Justin Fields throwing a dime to DJ Moore
for a touchdown.
My counter argument to that,
so I'm admitting that it was a bullshit call.
My counter argument to that would be,
did that call stop the Lions from getting a first down
until nine minutes left in the fourth quarter?
Probably not.
So that really, like the Bears were the better team on Sunday.
That call was very big and it sucked because it was probably the wrong call, but I'm not gonna apologize because the Bears were the better team on Sunday. That call was very big. And it sucked
because it was probably the wrong call. But I'm not going to apologize because the bears were
the better team and their defense played better. And the Lions defense still is a big question mark
of what the hell is happening. Yeah. So the Lions it was, it was their defense. Yes, their defense
was very bad today. But also their offense wasn't that good. They scored 13 points in the second
quarter. They didn't score any points outside of that second quarter.
It was pretty inconsistent.
I'm, Jerry Golf is a friend, great quarterback,
even better guy off the field.
For the facts.
He struggles with the cold.
Yeah, they need to have a home playoff game.
And I think they will, they should still win that division
because I don't think anybody else
really is capable of doing that right.
They're the best tackers, they're definitely capable of doing that right. I think the best packers are definitely capable of doing.
They're the best team in that division by a wide enough margin for it to be like relatively
certain that they're going to win it.
But I don't that's not but you better win that division because you don't want to go anywhere
and play outside.
That's not as secure as you think it is because they have to play the Vikings twice and
the Vikings are two games behind them right now
I think that the Packers went on Monday. They're two games behind them. I think the the lines will take your business
It gets I'm not worried about the Vikings anymore if I'm the if I'm the lion. Okay, it's it if your lines fan
It you're not saying oh the NFC North is all wrapped up. I can guarantee you that it's not wrapped up
But I I wouldn't panic in
terms of winning that division. They have not looked good. They've not looked good in the last three
weeks. That's a fact. Actually, four weeks, because that the, the bears completely choked away
the game that they played at Ford Field, you know, a month ago. And Dan Campbell said afterwards,
I need to put a little more, I need to push a little more. I need to be more irritable. That's
going to be fun for the Lions. Yeah, he's going gonna have to figure out a great speech to give this week.
I got one. Here's one. We're gonna throw the ball more frequently to Jameson Williams. Yeah, and Sam Laporte. Again, throw the ball to Jameson. He's fast as fuck.
Not when the not when the bear's secondary is flying around. I
Listen, I know people they love when I'm very much down.
It's exciting.
I'm excited about the bear's future because their defense is something to build on.
And they have offensive weapons and they have the number one pick.
It's exciting.
If you want someone to be down and out and and and doom and gloom, can I offer you a max?
Where's max down?
Max, that came just went final.
You're Mike's not on. Eagle suck. Eagle suck. This is two games in a row playing the two
other best teams in the NFC and you've looked very bad. Yes. The season's over.
No. Okay, you have a magic wand. How do you fix the Eagles?
Nothing the defense nothing. I mean the offense
The offense there was just bad turnovers, but it they were moving the ball fine
They just had bad turnovers. Mm-hmm. The defense is a big problem. Mm-hmm. Big
Big big Problem that's a lot of bigs. Sean decide fucking blows
It's down back next week. I don't know. Hopefully
Defends socks. Yeah, but Tom got to get out of that tank. You bet the Cowboys today
What do you think about your cowboys? We need a cowboys fan on this podcast.
We said that.
Hank is stepped up.
He's an next fan up guy.
They're dominant at home.
They got to keep up these wins.
Get some home playoff games.
It's soupy.
Soupy.
You think it's soupy this year?
I think this is the year.
Oh, okay.
Well, Max, the gauntlet is over.
That's good.
I mean, you still have to go to Seattle next week.
It's not a gauntlet.
The Seattle needs a win pad.
I'm also sick of playing teams that just get extra rest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Seattle kind of gets extra rest
because they played earlier.
Dallas had at least four hours.
Last week Dallas had a minibuy.
He's played Thursday.
It's scheduling.
Scheduling is fuck the Eagles.
That's what's happened. Calendar 20.
Yeah, that's what's happened.
Two days is worth 20 points.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's about right.
Mm-hmm.
That's the math.
I mean, the defense sucks.
Yeah, Dac looks really good.
I think Dac MVP.
He did look great today.
Yeah, Dac MVP.
We were talking about it a couple of weeks ago, but
Dac is, uh, I would imagine the odds would reflect that, but
Dac MVP feels like it's got some momentum now.
I'd say if the conversation's down to Dac and Brock, they're
going to give it to Dac. Yes. Well, it really, I just keep going
back. It's probably going to be the number one seat. So
two is still in it, like Lamar's still in it. It's just, that's
how this award goes, unfortunately. So two is still in it. Like Lamar's still in it. It's just, that's how this award goes unfortunately. So whoever gets the one seat gets the MVP. Although,
if it's the dolphins, I think it's Tyree. It should be. It should be. Um, okay. Next game.
Sorry, the Lions fans had to listen to me. Be happy. I'm happy like once, never, never
happy. No, I mean, you have every right to be happy. I'm very, very happy. Bears could put
a pep in my step today, and it felt good.
And it felt good also because people still think they suck.
So like, when you can sneak them and be like,
no, they don't actually suck.
Were they five and four in their last nine?
I've been four in their last nine.
And their losses are, you know,
tights and beigeant, that, that saints loss.
They, they actually kind of dominated the saints.
Obviously, the Lions game, they didn't know how to close out the first one.
There's, if you look at the last two months of the Bears, like they're outside of the
Chargers game, they've been in every game.
Well, so the Vikings game, we all remember the Vikings, but no means were the Bears like
a dominant team.
No, but their defense was awesome.
Their defense was great.
Their defense can win them games.
All right.
Saints 28, Panther 6, uh, the Saints,
man, that it's tough when the Panthers are playing and the Panthers are a chore to watch. And
then they'd Saints are like equally as a chore to watch because the Saints offense.
Derrick Car at one point in this game was 13 for 20 for 37 yards and one interception. And
did you see his offensive lineman, Eric McCoy,
just starts screaming at him.
So that yeah, kinda woke him up a little bit.
They got into that.
I took something else away from that video too.
It wasn't just him screaming at him.
We need to start monitoring Derek Carr every time he's sacked.
I don't think these guys are helping him up.
Yeah.
I don't think his offensive line is going back
to our helping the guy up.
Yeah.
I think he's up to three or four broken ribs right now,
trying to match Drew Brees' all-time record.
I think he still has like 10 more to go for that one,
but still, that's an unbreakable record, I think.
Yes.
Drew Brees playing with like every single rib shattered
into his lungs.
He was Marilyn Manson for that one season.
You think?
You think he's talking his own dick.
Yeah, Derek Carr, could he?
Yeah, probably.
He's got his brother to that.
He's got no, yeah.
I know his brother's busy saying that Marcus Mariot does should start for the Eagles. Yeah, my favorite which
Maybe my favorite thing about David Carr is that joking is that he he blocks people who make fun of his brother. Yeah online
That's just where he's right or not right or die
But yeah, this game was the Panthers are just so so so bad and in Chris Tabor their interim head coach
Those are just so, so, so bad. And Chris Tabor, their interim head coach, usually you get a bounce with your head coach.
Your interim head coach.
They got negative bounce so much so that he's a special teams guy and they got a pump
block today.
Like that's the one thing.
If you're the interim head coach and you're a special teams coach, you need to make sure
your special teams is like elite and never fucks up because that's the one thing that
you should be able to handle.
He also might just be, it might be the lack of him being on special teams.
Yeah, I don't think so.
I think he's not.
The panthers should definitely do the thing where they have a different interim coach every
single week.
Try to get that bump, keep going with it until you find a guy that gives you bump and
then rotate again.
That's what you should do.
The panthers are so tough to watch, so hard to watch.
I put a bet in today on every team to score a touchdown.
And in the early slate, I just needed the Panthers.
And it is, it's, I feel so bad for Panthers fans out there.
The fact that you have to go through this weekend,
week out, Bryce Young, the guy still hasn't figured out
that he can't outrun a defensive lineman at first speed
from a standstill.
He tries to do it all the time. And when he realizes he can't outrun a defensive lineman at first speed from a standstill. Correct. He tries to do it all the time.
And when he realizes he can't, then he starts drifting backwards and makes a
sure sack and even worse sure sack.
Yeah.
It's his first half. He was three for 15 for 28 yards.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's bad. Really bad.
The highlight, aren't you happy though?
Because like you got the plug pulled on you because the Vikings raiders game,
which we're going gonna talk to was that
I've been disaster. I've been disaster. It would been bad. The highlight of the game was Miles Sanders almost scoring a touchdown
Yeah, and he got tackled at like the two and then you guys backed up 15 yards and then yeah, they they just went yeah
Yeah, sack sack. Is it is it not time to start asking?
Andy Dalton
Yeah, Andy don't the one game he played, he looks really good.
Oh, he looks great.
Or might have been two games.
Yeah.
Have you noticed the like this?
Yeah, Andy 2.0 that we're looking at right now.
I don't know.
Andy Dalton probably is like,
I'm cool just catching a check here.
He probably doesn't want to get in.
I'm thinking that maybe the panthers
just want the bears to get a worse draft pick.
What do you mean?
I don't know.
Maybe they're just, maybe, I don't know.
No, that makes no sense.
I guess it probably doesn't,
but why aren't they putting Andy Dalton in there?
Because they drafted Bryce Young,
you can't bench the guy you drafted one overall
his first season.
I would consider,
why you're down.
You're not trying to win.
I would consider setting them down because he's not.
You are trying to win, but you're not able to win.
It doesn't matter.
Like nothing matters.
Because everything that he's being taught the season is from a guy that's not gonna be are trying to win, but you're not able to win. It doesn't matter. Like, nothing matters. Because everything that he's being taught to season
is from a guy that's not going to be there in like three months.
You have it, then you just got to get some game tape out there.
See if he can overcome adversity.
You can't bench your first round.
You're first pick overall.
It's for his own good.
For no reason, really.
Like, there's nothing to bench him for, except for the socks.
I think it's just like the people that are coaching the team right now are going to have,
he's not going to like take any developmental steps with this group of interim coaches.
Yeah.
More games, just find out, you know, how bad you are.
Maybe I'm asking specifically for people that have a chance to do something on television.
You don't want the Bears to have the first pick.
I see what you're doing. No I do. I you want Andy don't the play and win a couple of games
I want Andy don't to play just so that can I tell you I can watch the pants
Can I tell you can I tell you what would be worse than me having the first pick
That guy right there. No, it's not guy. This is about you having a first pick. I'm not that guy
But there's no reason to play Andy don't wrong with that which the reason to play Andy don't is that he's better But there's no reason to play any don't wrong with that. What's the reason to play any don't is that he's better, but there's no reason to like he's not your future.
He's not like you drafted him one overall.
You might be you have to play him at least.
You might be doing more damage to him by keeping in these game marks.
Slayer teaches that.
The like the whole idea of like bench, you know, having a guy sit.
It's like, you got to find out right away.
I'm just rather find out right now.
I'm just saying he's not,
I don't think he's going to get any better
with the team that's currently around him right now.
Well, if he gets worse, then he's not the guy.
Yeah, but what if he wins a couple games
and the fans start believing in him and they're like,
we don't even want a quarterback
if we get the first pick.
Yeah, yeah, we have Bryce Sean.
Yeah.
There's no reason they're not going to get the first pick
to Hank because they go,
no, they're saying that they wouldn't No, Hank is okay
Pathetically if they were to win enough games and still have the first overall pick
They wouldn't take a quarterback, but no that pick's going to big cat. Yeah, I have that pick
I hold that pick you don't want to court. I talk that pick in every no, I do want a quarterback. I want to kill Williams
I we went through this we were talked about it a lot
I
Tuck that pick in every night.
I kiss it right on the forehead.
I do not want hang to get the first overall pick.
I love that pick.
I love you first,
if I could have it my way,
I would suspend all NFL operations for a few years
and just hold onto that first pick for as long as I could.
Just, hmm,
maybe looking at that for Max.
You gonna cry?
I'm just watching you. Do the show.
Okay.
All right, yeah, this game was a disaster though.
NFC South is a disaster.
It's a chore to watch.
Pac-12 network.
Yep.
Save the Pac-12.
Put the NFC South there.
Jimi Grams back.
Jimi Gram is back.
Huge.
He almost dunked the ball over the upright.
At what point is there a car gonna sit down?
He's getting hurt every single week.
He has so many injuries and he's just so like,
I'm not gonna let, I think he knows
that James is better than him.
He's selfish.
Yeah.
He is.
It's messed up that they put James in at the end of games
for, for kneel downs, just tanking his stats.
Yeah, I know.
I'm gonna need James 101 to make,
make sure on the next, uh, James graphic,
you include some asterisks on why James's all-time stats are worse because of these kneel downs
Yes, yes, all right next game Jets 30 Texan 6. This was a wild game. Oh, was that means?
I said fuck yeah fuck yeah
This is a wild game because it was zero zero to half and it was all punts in the first half and then Zach Wilson
Spark mm-hmm
I might be back into believing in Zach Wilson. He look good Zach Wilson look great
He looks good memes. He looked really really good and it wasn't just the fact that he wasn't Tim Boyle
It's not just the fact that he wasn't Trevor Simeon. He played good in the second half
What did it in the rain? What's up with that memes is he good? I
Think it's not good. I think it's just the perfect backup quarterback where a guy goes down. He goes in gives you a spark and that's it big spark.
Can't play a full season. I think Zach Wilson is the perfect.
Well, no, it doesn't work with this analogy because I was gonna say Mitch, but that has not worked out
But like you can't blame a guy who gets picked number two overall if he got picked
in the fourth round. You'd be like Zach Wilson. He's making strides. Yeah. He's coming along.
He gets paid nothing. If he was a fourth rounder, you'd be optimistic about the Wilson's
future. But we found a diamond in the rough. Yeah, you can't really do that with this.
No, yeah, I know. It's impossible to do, but I would Zach Wilson played legitimately
good football today. He played really good In fact the jets played so well overall
I think if you're a jet span you have to be hoping that Aaron Rogers can come back, right memes?
Hmm. I
Don't think I don't think it's possible didn't he officially say he's not did he?
I'm pretty sure I saw one crazy quote that was like. Oh, it doesn't matter if I re-endered
That's yet not true at all.
In the cosmic sense of things.
Yeah.
Yeah, the world is gonna blow up one day.
Just a flick of dust.
Yeah.
Was it pale blue light?
Yeah, yeah.
That's all we have.
Really, the sun is gonna engulf the earth.
Yeah, 50 billion years.
So what does it matter if you play as well?
If you tears another Achilles.
It's actually selfish and very ego-tistical to think that you're Achilles matters.
Yeah. For the Texans, it feels like the fun for the Texans might have hit a big speed bump today.
Because they looked bad, Tank Dell is out, Nico Collins got hurt, CJ Straub got a concussion,
Collins got hurt, CJ Strauss got a concussion, and their offense looked at rocious 54 net passing yards. And now the Texans like they're they're
right now outside of the playoff picture. And if CJ Strauss out for a little
bit, it feels like this, this might be, hey, remember the Texans, that was a fun
story for a while. Next year will be good. Yeah. So he's in the protocol right
now. So he's probably not playing next week either.
Um, it's, it was a fun season though.
It was a building and you have a lot to look forward to next year.
Correct.
We're gonna get so many.
It's, this season has been so bad for quarterback injuries.
Like next week, we're gonna get Davis Mills.
I just add another, another name to the pile.
Yeah, I think, uh, like we're talking about Zach Wilson being a spark for Tim Boyle and Trevor Simeon
And we haven't even gotten to the game where Nick Mullins was a spark for Josh to opt with Tim and who was playing Adon O'Connell
Who's a spark for Jimmy G Trevor Simeon. It's so bad Trevor Simeon was a spark last week for Tim Boyle
Yes, and and Zamboyle Tim Boyle was a spark for Zach Wilson and Zach Wilson is now the spark the circle of life. He is now he has now become the spark. So
I'm gonna want to make a prediction going in this office season Texans are gonna be everybody. They're gonna say like the sleeper team
Yeah, the the Regis Philbin team is where I was called. It's gonna be the film and would the team that that
People think that you're not smart enough to pick for next year. Yeah, Regis Philbin RIP
Tremendous guy career never met him, but I'm sure Tremendous Guy,
he would always, I feel like it was always late August
and he would do his Regis and Kathy Lee
or whatever it was called and he would do his like picks
and he would pick the team that everyone had already done
all the exhaustive buzz about all summer long.
He'd be like, yep, that now is the team
that is not gonna do anything.
And I think it's gonna be the Texans this year.
Yeah, yeah.
Memes, that was fun.
That was a lot of fun, that was a great second half.
Yeah, it was almost a perfect half a football.
And Memes called it too, he goes, the jets are about
to go on a touchdown drive, right,
as the second half started, and he was right.
And then they scored, did they score in six three
possessions?
Yeah, six second half scoring possessions for Zach Wilson.
You guys figured out you unlocked
that Daniel Hack, it's offense.
I think they would have scored on the Winnie Fumbled too.
Yeah, yeah, but that's just a rain.
Yeah, that was a rain.
But something clicked.
I don't know what, but something clicked.
It's crazy the over hit in this game.
This game for the first half looked like the most miserable football experience to attend
in person maybe of the season.
Yeah.
It was just rainy cold, Zach Wilson, metal lands, no points, ponds.
It was bad.
It was real bad.
And then second half was like completely different.
Yeah.
No idea what happened to Zach at halftime, but I want to find out what that was.
That's a good segue to the most miserable football game that we've seen in a very long
time. The Vikings three, Raider zero. It was the lowest scoring game in NFL history in
indoor stadium. Yeah, so I was thinking about other zero to three games, three to zero games.
And we all remember 2007, the one in game. Dolphins. Steelers Dolphins, Jeffrey, Kikdefield goal, I think, with, what, like, I don't know, 15
seconds left, 17 seconds left in the game to give the Steelers the win three to zero.
That game was outdoors.
That game was played at Heinz Field at the time, like a couple days after Pittsburgh played
a home game there.
The field was chewed up.
There was a punt that was hit
in the game that just landed and didn't move.
It just stuck in the earth because it was so muddy.
This game was played in one of the newest stadiums
on some of the most expensive grass.
And it felt like every time I looked up at this game,
one team or another had the ball at like the 40 yard line.
Yeah. And that was it.
And it never really got close. It was pints eight three and out so half of the punts were three and outs
Miss a miss field goal and an interception that was the game
It was the two teams combined went 11 for 34 on third down. It was so miserable
Somehow they went three for three on fourth. That's pretty impressive pretty crazy
But yeah, it was the death of two
on fourth. That's pretty impressive. Pretty crazy. But yeah, it was the death of two fun storylines that were happening. One being Antonio Pierce and you know, came in. Everyone was happy. Josh
Martinez was gone because Josh Martinez by all accounts is like the worst person ever.
Winds two games. Now they've lost three straight. The other one, unfortunately, Josh Dobbs, he's
learned too much. He knows too much of the offense. He's back to being Josh Dobbs. I wish
he had, I wish they had pulled the plug like a week earlier so that we could still have
good memories because this was like when Nick Mullins has to come in and save the day,
it might be over for Josh Dobbs. Yeah, it was very painful.
Neither quarterback played well.
Josh Topp's, they should just have him not practice
during the week.
Just have him show up on game day.
I was like, I was like, I feel like get out there,
just we're gonna roll the ball out there and Josh,
you just do your thing that you do.
Yeah.
And that would be way more entertaining
because the Vikings look, they're boring.
The Raiders didn't look like.
Play the defense.
Didn't look any better.
I saw a report that Mark Davis met with Antonio Pierce
for like an hour after the game.
That would be something if he got fired.
He'd probably just crying.
As interim head coach.
It was probably just,
Mark Davis was probably crying in Antonio Pierce's arms,
big, burly arms.
They're there, they're there, Mark.
Yeah.
The best part of this game was the Kegstand celebration
by the Viking's defense.
The guy turned over and go to the in zone
and they just lift the guy up like he's doing
a kickstand.
One of the other guys in the defense just walked around pretending to be drunk in the
zone, which was awesome.
That was very cool.
That's how I felt watching this.
I wish it made me football drunk.
The only other part of the game that I like to was the Vikings have a player, Josh Metallus.
I don't know if I pronounce his name right.
How many positions do you think he's played this year?
Mr. Positions.
He's Mr. Positions.
On defense.
Four.
He's played all of them.
What?
So they showed the graphic.
He's played strong safety, free safety, left cornerback,
right cornerback, slot cornerback, left inside linebacker,
right inside linebacker, middle linebacker,
left outside linebacker, right outside linebacker,
right defensive end, left defensive end.
I guess he hasn't played nose tackle. That mr. positions how insane is that it is pretty crazy
also I guess shout out to to their defense like flores yeah no there there is doing some stuff
that we haven't seen ever the Vikings defense is one of those defenses at the beginning of the
season everyone's like they they didn't look like they made big steps from last year because that
was their big problem but they clearly have they're playing a lot better and it does suck because if you're a Vikings fan,
like Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson, if they're playing on this team right now, they are a team
that would be a threat in the NFC.
So I've read a headline and the first paragraph of an article about this defense.
Go on. Not to brag. I usually cut off a just like halfway through the headline
I look at the picture and I go on vibes this time I read the first paragraph
Brian Flores is invented a new way to play defense that's never been done in the NFL in terms of their zone blitzing okay
And how they design the coverage on the back end?
It's no coach can recognize it no coach can figure it out, but he just like sat down
He's like you know what I've had a couple years to think this through
I'm just gonna invent a new defense.
So I guess part of that is having a guy
that can play literally every position on the team.
It's insane.
I, that graphic, I was like, how is this possible?
How is someone can play cornerback
and then also play defensive end, but he's done it.
Doesn't make sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, this game was tough.
It was tough watch. I just wanted it. I wanted a zero, zero tie. Is that too much to ask?
It would have been great. And it's also, yeah, it has been done. How many times, Jake?
73 73 times. That's insane that there've been 73 date and triangles. Yeah.
The date and triangles and the Cleveland Tigers. Who could forget? 19-20.
Yeah, I want to say.
I mean, that's such a mismatch in names.
The triangles and the Tigers.
Yeah, the Tigers are going up against the triangles.
Yeah, well, they tied.
Yeah.
And the mascot or the drawing that they had that represented
the Dayton triangles, just how did people exist with football
as it was back in the 1920s?
How did the league ever survive to ever see the beautiful forward pass?
Why were they oh it was named after their home field triangle park?
So that was a situation where it was
like anchor man
Michael Scott's character which is naming things like what should we be named? Well, it's triangle park. Yep. Okay
Triangles triangles will be the triangles. Yeah, so I just wanted zero zero tie
I would like to see that at one point in my lifetime
And this was probably the closest that we're gonna get to it. Oh, this is our you know who who head coached the Dayton triangles
Our guy greasy Neil my mother talked about greasy Neil. Yeah, cuz greasy Neil I think played
Football and baseball and was like he did everything
He coached in college and the NFL.
Yeah, he won a couple NFL championships,
Greasy Nail.
And he played for the Reds.
He was a beast, Greasy Nail.
We did get a Josh Rosen stat line on Josh Dobbs today.
It was so bad.
It was 10 for 23, 63 yards.
Yeah. So I feel like if you're the Vikings, you go with Nick
Mullins or maybe Jaren Hall because remember, he actually hit a little pep before he got
concussed. I guess so. Yeah. But I mean, just see what you got. You might as well. Okay. Before we
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And his DMs were open, he didn't follow any of us.
And I DMed him on Thursday at 310 and I said Jake we're rooting for you this weekend.
Thanks for listening to the show.
A little presumptuous of me.
Yeah.
Just assuming he does.
He just wrote me back at 905 tonight and said,
thank you, big fan of the show.
Wow, let's go.
Hey, Jake Browning, we are Jake Browning guys.
I love it.
So we called our shot.
So Jake, one cluster of the quarterback?
Yeah, well I said we'll get him on after the season.
I don't want, look, he's got something going,
you know, it's going good right now.
We don't want to mess with it.
Yeah, Jake, if you listen to Friday's show, just know that there's a reason why me and Big Cat aren't in the NFL and you're in the NFL.
But from two guys who watch a lot of NFL, it's time to cash in. Yeah.
Cash in. We'll be your agents. Yeah. We also have other breaking moves.
Breaking moves. Breaking moves. We have a text battle going on on the part
of my take text change. It's producers producing. It's producers producing. I'll read them
in order. Hank sent us a stat and it says this is a shocking stat. Thank you. Since 2000,
there have been 116 teams with 10 plus wins through week fourteen of the NFL season
Among that group the twenty twenty three Eagles rank a hundred and third with the point differential of plus twenty one
So relevant that is a relevant stat
And then Max responded with a
Patriots are eliminated from the playoffs graphic with the lighthouse, which is just a lash out stat.
By the way, that's irrelevant. Wait, no, is it true or not? It's true, but we're not. That was true.
That happened today. Good question. It did happen today.
But it's NFL news from today. That is from today.
For talking about, we're not talking about relevant. We're talking about the Patri from today. Before we're talking about, we're not talking about the pictures. We're talking about the pictures.
And then Hank responded with a tweet from our good friend,
Adam Faron, aka, Sal Palantonio.
Angel Lo Palantonio.
Sorry, he wrote, no hyperbole, the Eagles look like one of the worst teams
the NFL over the last two weeks.
Offense bad, defense bad.
I'm generally a positive person.
There's no denying how abysmal the Eagles have looked sad.
That's actually a good point by Ron.
You keep going after the defense.
The offense has looked very bad as well, Max.
I don't think the, I can watch that game and go home
and be like, that was a weird game for the offense.
I think the defense is actually that bad.
There was a lot of weird games here now.
But that was just like, yeah, they played
too much of a defense and they've, and a lot of weird games here now. But that was just like, yeah, they played two defense and they've been both have been weird games. But there were fault. It was turnovers.
You say turnover looks is a thing. And our two best receivers just dropping balls that
they do not normally drop. If they don't have a rhythm. Yeah, if there was like, drum
one period, a bunch of stall drives and like couldn't get the ball. I didn't see that
as much tonight. I think that the like I'm not as I'm not worried about the offense.
Is Mario to healthy?
Well, my question was going to be is jail hurts.
Okay.
I'll be okay.
You might not be.
I mean, AJ Brown and Devonte Smith just kept dropping balls.
Like he.
Yeah, they dropped some balls other than the fun.
I didn't think that he hurts even looked at that.
Okay. Well, the offense is look bad
They scored 13 points and 19 points against
Correct, but like I test but the I test does have to score points like if the defense played
20 points better
They still would have gone on to
Yeah, you say turnover luck is a thing. It is.
Yeah.
But that doesn't mean that if you commit a lot turnover,
you're just unlucky.
You guys also got a fumble touchdown.
Yeah, good point, Hank.
That's actually your absolute right.
We're talking about the offense.
No, but let's just turn it off.
Yeah, no, that ball back.
It's all about the offense.
And you scored, you actually scored points.
So the offense actually only scored six points to feel good. I get it. I get it
But I can watch that game and be like okay
The offense and score touched on but we're good. Yeah, that's a good point Hank
I'm
Not I'm not worried about the offense. I'm like you should be a little bit more. You didn't score a touchdown. Okay, okay, I get it.
Like, what do you want to keep saying?
Okay, let's just go to the circle.
Okay, let's move forward.
Is this next game against the sea ox that a must win?
Yes.
Oh, what happens if you lose?
So you're still on the playoffs.
Well, you guys keep doing,
it's either a must win or it's not.
And you fuckers keep saying this.
And then no matter what I say, I'm still I'm still bad. Well no
I'm just saying that you are over two in your last two
wins but when I but when I don't say it's a must win you might not change the most win you get on me
But you fucking suck at some point there it is at some point max when you when you lose enough
Must-winds in a row you got a change of vibe. I lose them all
The max the max hater you did get a bunch of new max fans
on Thursday after your MVP performance to the 24 hours.
Yeah, because you guys just put me on the show
and then try to make me mad.
And then people are like, this guy sucks
because he gets mad all the time.
Because you guys just make me mad.
We don't have to try very hard.
We were eating dinner and I said to Max,
is this one of those nights that you wish you weren't the producer of our music?
Yes
Just like grumbly. I just hate watching games with you guys. I hate watching Eagles. I like watching games with my
Boys and you guys are all my boys me too. I'm looking for church these days
It is you're gonna miss this fam. I'm gonna miss this out of the sea someday
We'll all be gone and you'll be sad.
I'll be watching Eagles games with people who like the Eagles.
And you have to watch a Super Bowl with Ron.
And me?
I like the Eagles at that point.
It's just sad.
Okay.
All right.
Next game.
Big, big news for the Jake Browning fan club. We are the charter members. I love Jake Browning
We called our shot. He listens to show. We should send him a bunch of Omaha Stakes and a bunch of honey. Yeah
Eat up big boy. You need your strength. Mm-hmm right exactly that on the note
Okay 49ers 28 Seahawks 16
49ers just really fucking good. He's how good the 49ers 28 Seahawks 16 49ers are just really fucking good. His how good the 49ers are
Christian McCaffrey had a 17 yard 72 yard play
Debo Samuel out of 54 yard play Brandon a you kind of 45 yard play Kittle had a 44 yard play
It's pretty fucking scary when all four of those guys are just like yeah, let me rip off an insanely big play
I would say the 49ers at their best are better than any team in football.
Yes.
At their best, they can't be beat.
No.
When Trent Williams, I mean, Max actually made a good point,
Trent Williams should be in the conversation for MVP.
He's mine.
Yeah.
My MVP.
Yeah, he's, I mean, they, without, when the 49ers
have had Debo Samuel and Trent Williams and everyone else,
they have not lost. I think they might have lost the rounds game with them.
I don't think Debo played in that game actually.
I think Trent was in that game.
Yeah.
And they lost because of a misfeel goal.
Yes, but they are a juggernaut in every sense of the word.
And the Seahawks season is officially spiraled.
This is a first four loss losing streak, four game losing
streak for Pete Carroll. So that's pretty impressive that he's gone that long. But yeah,
and Jamal Adams covering in space is one of the funniest things. I love it. I love, I love
seeing Jamal Adams. He looks like us out there. I love seeing him get beat. I love every
time he, he stinks. It's a bad guy. It puts a smile smile on face. Bad guy, yikes.
Yikes, we're gonna have to say that.
Yikes, play that clip of him just trying to run after Debo.
Yikes.
Yikes, big yikes.
It's, okay, two different levels of bad guy,
but you know how we love watching Greg Hardy get his ass kicked?
Yeah, anytime he's not that bad guy.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's the same vibe where it's like,
I do enjoy watching Jamal Adams not be able to cover anybody. Yes, it is pretty good. Yeah. Uh, the 49ers now Jake
We talked about the bird gauntlet asterisk that you brought up. Yep. They've now beaten the sea hurt
It's not the bird gauntlet because they've had the sea hawks eagles then they have
sea hawks again
then the cards, Ravens, no Falcons in there.
But there's a chance that they play the Falcons in the playoffs, at which time we will
annoy them to be victors of the Bird Gauntlet.
All right, just to clean up, you can't have the Seahawks in there twice and act like you've beaten every bird team.
Well, no one ever said every bird team.
That's what the bird gauntlet is.
Do we not just talk about the Eagles having a gauntlet?
I didn't see the bird gauntlet is a very specific type.
The bird gauntlet is a very specific type of gauntlet.
Yeah, okay.
Just for the record.
But they're off to a good start against their mini gauntlet.
Yes, they are.
The Niners are really good.
Outside of the cowboys and the Niners are the two teams,
the NFC now.
And we didn't, we should have given the cowboys more credit. They look really fucking good. Outside of the cow like the cowboys and the Niners are the two teams the NFC now. And we didn't we we should have given the cowboys more credit. They are they look really
fucking good. They stepped up. This was the big test for them and they passed. Actually,
do you think that if those two teams played again, it would be closer than the first time?
I don't know who would win, but the cowboys are now in the conversation. Yes, yes, but then yeah,
the Niners are are just way better than every other team outside of the Cowboys, which you actually they're way better than Cowboys too
Because we have one piece of evidence and they were way better than the Cowboys in that game
So the Niners are just on a different level. We have to have a conversation though pft about a good friend dk
Yeah
He's number one in the diva ranking. Is he diva or is he just like?
The George Pickens live wire. I think he might be Diva.
He was doing sign language for,
I can't believe Drew Locke is my quarterback
when he slammed his helmet on the bench
and broke everything.
That, so I think that answers your question.
Yeah.
DK had to learn sign language
because he knew he couldn't speak anymore
because everything that came out was Diva.
Well, factually, we love the Diva wide receiver.
He's so much fun to watch.
He had an awesome touchdown, incredible body control,
but he's a Diva.
Yeah, DK learned, apparently he learned sign language
when he was in college.
And then he started relearning over the past two weeks
so that he can do touchdown celebrations
and also shit talk his quarter.
Well, no, I was making a joke about it.
But he probably slammed his helmet.
Yeah, that's what that was, American Sign Language for.
But he did do Sign Language again after he scored touch.
And I don't know what he said.
I saw a tweet that said, he spelled out my dog's name as woof.
Oh, so I don't know if that was a typo.
Can you do what it's called?
If you like, slur your words doing Sign Language.
I don't know.
He might have had a typo, but apparently that's what he said.
Or it might have been a tweet that I misread. But yeah, that's just touched on celebration. It's
just, okay, I'm going to make Roger Gidele go to his Dakota ring and figure out if he has to
find me for anything that I said. I think he's, I think the Diva wide receiver rankings are as such
DK McHalf-1, Stefan Diggs too. Diggs is definitely up there. Yeah, for sure. He's a clear too. And it
goes back and forth each week. I say DK more of a diva digs
Might be Melcinton he could he might be a Melcinton borderlines that both of them have the thing where it's like
They're so so good, but at least once or twice a game. You're like it doesn't feel like they want to be here. Yeah
Odell used to have that. Yeah, but I don't think he has anymore. I don't think he's good enough to be a diva anymore
Today is pretty good. He was very good today, but I'm saying like
you have to be a clear head and shoulders number one. Oh, there was that for a lot of
his career. Now he's, you know, he's more of a piece of a puzzle. Yeah. Decay, he's definitely
he's in the company again. We like the Diva wide receiver. It's a lost art. I think
it's a combination with DK though that you don't get with a lot of other Diva wide receivers
where he's he is kind of a Diva,
but he's also like a really fucking pissed off Diva.
Yeah.
To the point where like he's a physical Diva.
And so he'll take it out on the,
do you get kicked out today?
No, but he had a couple of plays that were close to the edge.
That's what I like about him is his Diva too.
You get kicked out.
He did get kicked out.
Yeah, he thought he did.
He got booted.
I missed that.
Yeah.
Or his devitude goes up against the other team
as much as it does against his own team sometimes.
Correct.
If you're going to be a diva, that's the way to do it.
Yeah, the Seahawks are in big time trouble.
They're, yeah, they're not good right now.
And Devon with their Schwungaert, they are playing right next week.
Fortunately, it was the stat?
103rd out of a hundred and six teams. It started telling us so they have a chance. Yeah. They have a chance next week. They do have a good game. Uh,
prime time game.
I don't know. Is that a prime time game?
Seahawks Eagles. I don't believe so. No, it is. It got flexed flexed Monday night. Oh, yeah, stream that was flexed the year
Mondays Monday's a great money. Don't watch for blonde Mondays. I watch Eagles. It's a max
It's max actually that is that's always a treat though
When you do get a standalone game that you don't have to stream. Yeah, and you don't have to work after.
That's pretty good.
So Max, I want you, I actually give you permission
to get hammered drunk during that game.
Yeah, as long as even if you're losing Max,
if you're losing, you still have to do your videos.
Yeah, can I come?
Yes, yeah.
Hank can come.
No, no, no, Hank, you should.
You're a producer, right?
I am.
You can produce Max that night.
Yeah.
What does that even mean?
He's gonna produce you. You're gonna produce him to produce him so hard. He's going to produce.
The, yeah, the, the, the, the Niners only last real test is going to be the Ravens. I think that's
Monday night football. And it's, oh, no, it's actually Christmas day. So it's Christmas day night.
I love that. Yeah. Which by the way, we will have a show on that for, I'm going to repeat it a bunch of
times because I don't want people to be like, why didn't you tell us? So this is my first
time telling you. Christmas week, we're going to have a show on Tuesday, because we're not
going to record Christmas Eve. We're going to have a show on Tuesday, recapping everything
from the weekend, a show on Friday, ready for the next weekend and then same thing
for the week of New Year's.
We're going to do a show on Tuesday.
So we'll record Monday night after the playoff games, college football and another show
Friday.
So you're on Monday night.
Yeah.
But I just want to because it's a little bit of a funky schedule.
It's so stupid.
They should never have, they should never allow Christmas and New Year's on a Monday.
I agree with that.
That should be a legal. Best time is when Year's on a Monday. I agree with that. That should be illegal.
Best time is when it's on,
I think a Thursday.
Yeah, because you get that bonus.
Get the bonus, Bob.
Yeah.
You get the bonus time.
Okay, so.
Does anybody call DKMK yet?
We good.
Once Peter King starts calling him
Mikae Metcalf, that's when,
yeah.
That's when you're really a diva.
And I totally understand DK's frustration.
They see ox of, what were they?
Six and two?
No, they were six and three.
Six and three.
You talked me out of betting them to win the NFC West.
Yep, God.
Because they have fallen off a cliff.
Now that being said, I wouldn't be shocked
if they beat the Eagles.
No, everyone could beat the Eagles.
Yeah, they're one of what, was it,
was that said, 100,
three, six, they're 100 and three out of 106. 100 hundred and three hundred and six there hundred and three out of
106. Okay. Yes, so the sea ox can beat him and one of those teams had to have been that Steelers team. Oh for sure. Yeah. Okay
wrapping up two more games Broncos 24 chargers seven
the Broncos are
They're they probably will make the playoffs. I feel like they're gonna make the playoffs or play in some good ball.
The chargers are just a debacle.
I guess they're just not gonna fire Brandon Staley now
because they're just gonna wait till the after the season,
but Justin Herbert got hurt.
Didn't matter when he was in, it wasn't good.
Yeah, they were bad.
We talked about on Friday.
The chargers have no offense.
Like they're getting by on just total,
like remember the chargers last year,
the year before when they had offensive explosion everywhere.
King Allen is it.
And Austin Eckert looks slow as fuck.
He's slow, get up to 13 miles per hour the other week.
Yeah.
And Justin Herbert was in before he broke his finger.
He was nine for 17, for 96 yards of an interception.
I assume he's out for a while.
He's got a broken finger on his throwing hand.
Yeah, shut him down.
He's breaking all his hands.
Just shut him down.
Wait for new coach to come in and see if you can fix him.
Yeah, Eastern stick.
Eastern stick played.
So that's pretty much all you need to know
about the chargers today.
The Broncos, this was a take care business game.
Yeah, take care of business.
And Portland sucks.
I'm just really fucking good.
I'm gonna say something that might be reckless.
Oh, man.
Should I say it?
Do you know what I'm gonna say?
I know what you're gonna say.
Do you know what I'm gonna say?
I looked at the schedule.
Yeah, so did I.
The Broncos can still win the AFC West
if Mike Pence has the courage.
They're one game out.
They're one game out.
And there's a world
where they only lose one of the remaining games they might,
they could run the table.
The problem is the chief's schedule.
Also is very easy.
Chief's play the Patriots Raiders, Bengals, Chargers.
Jake Browning though, he's gonna whoop that ass.
Yeah, I looked at the Bengals,
I thought maybe that's their loss.
Maybe this is the Patriots opportunity to play spoiler hank for old times.
They got two chances.
They're playing the Broncos as well.
They can spoil both of them.
Spoil somebody.
All right, so I don't think that they're going to win that division.
I think it's still the chiefs.
We're not going to fall into the trap.
I just fell into the trap.
I just fell into the trap of saying, yeah, maybe the chiefs went, the chiefs are still
going to win that division. But the Broncos are going are gonna make the playoffs and they're good. Yeah, they're like a they're really good
They're just a good team period. They're not a great team. They're a good team way better
Sean Peyton right now. I guess he was right not trading ways players
That ass kicking from the dolphins probably had a lot to do with it. Wait breaking moves. Sorry
Thanks comedy set just ended probably had a lot and not in task.
As a prop, you can cut him in half.
Or if they're in the Super Bowl at that time.
No, they're not crazy.
Went to Eagles?
Come on.
Yeah, the Broncos, they're still alive.
Yeah.
So when they have C-West, they're crazy.
They're alive.
And it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world
if it happened.
It's probably not gonna happen,
but the fact that we're having that conversation. It would be pretty crazy. It'd be pretty nuts
Yeah, especially considering how bad they looked in September. They looked real bad
Real bad. They were maybe the worst team in football. Yeah, and so now Russell Wilson. Maybe he's I still he's still not like great
but
They're winning. He's he's good. He's like, if you look at our friend,
Mark Slayer, it's ripped him a new one the other day.
About what?
Just the Russell Wilson stuff.
Like he's running into sacks.
He's doing check downs, not looking down the field.
Like just his stats can look good,
but if you're watching the game,
there's so many plays that he's leaving on the table.
Which is fair, fair points.
You might be leaving a few plays on the table.
But considering what we were looking at earlier this season
in last year, it's night and day with Russ Wilson.
Absolutely.
And Corlan Sutton's really, really good.
Jared Judy, Javante Williams, like they have weapons.
It's, they're not a bad team.
Yeah, is it the quarterbacks coach for the Broncos?
I believe it is, is it this guy?
Davis Webb.
You remember Davis Webb?
Yeah, of course.
So I think he's the quarterback coach or off it.
I think he's QB coach.
He looks way more disheveled than I thought that he would look.
Really?
For some reason I had memory hold,
Davis Webb is being a clean cut guy.
He's got a little Charlie white Stanford. No
Texas tech. I'm thinking of Davis Mills
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, he's he's done a good job. Whatever you know, he's Colorado now. Yeah, he he he
Colorado, he got Colorado so he got the the beard and the long hair
He got Colorado whatever they're doing with with Davis Webb and Sean Peyton out there
Good job. I'm gonna put them in my personal coach of the year rankings. Yes. Yes. All right. Last game.
Bill's 20, Chief 17, what a game. Not the best played game. Both quarterbacks were not like
playing at elite level. It wasn't like the the divisional round we saw, but whatever it was three
or four years ago, 13 second games, but the bills playoff hopes stay alive
We talked about it on Friday. They were 35 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. They went down to 18 to 1
The big story from this game though is Patrick Mahomes complaining about cadarious Tony being off sides
In what was one of the coolest plays ever because they they he threw it to Travis
Kelsey who then threw it backwards a perfect spiral to get a serious Tony who scored a touchdown.
Flag called it back.
Cadarious Tony was standing off sides to start the play and Patrick my homes.
I don't remember time when he's been like this after a game.
No, and the handshake with Josh Allen.
Jake is probably heated about that.
Yeah, very bad sportsmanship.
Yeah, handshake was bad sportsmanship. Yeah, very bad sportsmanship. Yeah. Handshake was bad sportsmanship.
He was complaining about the play.
If you saw, listen, I know that there's a lot of times in an NFL game where there are subjective
calls and a lot of times when you're lining up as a receiver, they give you the benefit
of the doubt.
I don't think I've ever seen an offensive player more off sides than Kajaryus told me was.
He was in the pool report after the game where they asked Carl Cheffers, great referee name by the way, Carl Cheffers.
They asked him about the call.
He said, yeah, you know, sometimes we do give
a little bit of leeway, but if our lineman
can't actually see the ball because your player
is so far off sides, if it's that blatant,
we will throw a flag 10 times out of 10.
It also, it's so funny because all the,
Andy Reed complained, Patrick Holmes complained, notice that none of them are
saying he wasn't off sides. Yeah, he's there complain is that
you can't call that because it made a cool play less cool, which
in an entry, I understand that because I always think that if a
play is cool enough, they should just throw away whatever penalty
flags on the field. But if you're a player, you have to understand,
yeah, they threw the flag at the start of the play because your guy
was very, very offside. Well, and if you go a player you have to understand, yeah, they threw the flag at the start of the play because your guy was very, very offside.
Well, and if you go under the same reasoning that it was technically a penalty, but in this
time and place, you can't call a tickey tack call like that.
Well, unfortunately for the chiefs, they've just lost a shoe bowl from last year.
That's very true.
That's the part that's like, Patomes. I love you. You're great.
You're the best quarterback in the world, but you do have to realize that if you're going to make
this complaint, you open yourself up to literally the play that ended the Super Bowl last year.
And he did say that last week, I like to see the boys play when they got hose on that passer
interference. So he built up a little bit of credit with the refs by being like, I'm not going to
complain about a blown call today, but then a week from now, I'm going to reverse on
that entirely.
Also what, what my homes is asking for here, I'm not a very smart man.
I don't understand physics that well.
I don't understand anything about the universe or the time space continuum, but I do know
that he was asking for a flag
That was thrown he says that they should not have thrown a flag at the start of the play because the end of the play
That happened afterwards was way cooler, right?
Unfortunately for Patrick Mahomes the way time works is that they threw the flag and then the play happened. And here's another part of this.
So I would normally kind of agree with him if it's like, hey, look, this is, you know,
the ref is usually talking to the wide receivers.
There is an ongoing dialogue of, hey, you got to back up.
You're not on the side.
Like, this does happen.
We see this in football.
But the NFL did make a point of doing this this year.
So in 2021, this exact penalty was called one time.
Last year, this exact penalty was called two times.
I remember one of those.
This year, this penalty was called 11 times so far.
So that's just coaching in Codaria's Tony,
not like it's clear they've made it a point of emphasis.
It's clear they're gonna call it more. You can't then be like, we never saw this coming. You never call it, no, no, they like, it's clear they've made it a point of emphasis. It's clear they're gonna call it more.
You can't then be like, we never saw this coming.
You never call it, no, no, they do call it this year.
They have called it this year.
They've told everyone they're gonna call it this year.
And what they do, they called it.
And again, it just goes back to,
it, my homes and Andy Reeder, not saying he was not off sides.
They're admitting that he was off sides.
But you can't call it there.
Right, but you can't call it.
And then if we do, you can't call it there. We just go right back to James Bradbury
Yes
So I which was a penalty and and it was James Bradbury said that but the argument that everyone said is you can't call it there
It's the biggest moment in Super Bowl, but that's you you just fell into a trap. He mouse trapped himself
Also is cadarious Tony doing this. There is Tony this. Caderi's Tony. Shit for brains.
Is he's now cost you two games personally at wide
receive, which is very hard to do to say that one player is
directly responsible for two losses.
With Tony, I don't think that you can even make the
argument. Right.
It is. He definitely is.
It was a great play, though.
Shout out to Travis Kelsey.
That play is open probably 10 times a game down field.
If you have your guy running in the right place and
The person with a ball being on the lookout for it because of how the defense converges on the ball carrier
They're not worried about anybody else on the field right that plays open all the time
That's what I've been saying for the last seven years on the show Travis Kelsey's got balls to throw that and it was a perfect pass
It was an awesome throw and and my homes after the game said it's
tough to swallow not only for me and football in general to take away greatness like that
for a guy to make a play like that you want to see the guys on the field decide the game
I hope they still show it whenever he goes into the hall of fame because that's a legendary
moment that we don't really get to witness.
I'm going to say they're probably not going to.
I think they should.
It was that they will.
It was that look at you emotional my homes
Yeah, I'm very very emotional. Here's also just an idea and again
This is we're not criticized. He's the best quarterback in the NFL, but
Maybe instead of yelling at the ref she's yelling receivers because they're dog shit real bad and like outside of a
Rishi rice they just drop balls and fumble balls and and
And like outside of a Rishi rice, they just drop balls and fumble balls.
And they just, the chiefs are broken offensively.
I think you just need to,
you need to realize that Caterius Tony is maybe probably
definitely better off not being on the field.
It's, I mean, although he did score the touchdown
from Travis Kelsey, that's gonna be played in the whole fame.
Yeah, right.
He had a whole fame catch on that one.
Yeah, other things in this game,
Tony Romo called Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey's wife. Yeah, interesting, right. He had a whole fame catch on that one. Yeah, other things in this game Tony Romo called
Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey's wife. Yeah, interesting Tony my theory on that was that Tony's gonna think for Taylor Swift And he called her his wife so that she'd have to be like no, I'm not actually his wife
And I was like, oh really you're not oh, so you're single so you're so you're technically single
Oh speaking of that I put you guys on Jeff
Darlington Taylor Swift watch the other night. Yeah, when Jeff was sitting outside Lambo
field, Taylor rolls up. He takes a video of her going in. She turns back and looks at
him. Today, she drives by in a golf cart. She gives him a cute little wave. I think Taylor
Swift has a thing for Jeff Darling. I think that seen it now. He's taken by the NFL. By the game. Yeah, by the game.
His little Swift also had just looking so fierce
walking in the tunnel beforehand.
That's it.
Swifties now have to deal with losing football games,
which is so funny, because they like just hopped on
and they're like, chiefs always win.
Swifties are gonna watch them kill the bears.
We got some beat the jets.
They're gonna hate Caderius Tony.
Yeah, and just losing football game sucks.
So welcome to our world, losing sucks.
Sunday nights usually suck.
Sucks for you now.
So yeah, the chiefs are in trouble and then the bills,
I mean, Josh Allen was doing all the Josh Allen things today,
just mashing all the buttons.
I don't know why the bills don't feature James Cook
more, he's so electric.
Every time he touches a ball, Like the first half he was dominating
That that scene past that he caught. Yeah, you like that's always open the running back taking the seem like that
And then he had won a wheel route, too, which was awesome
So the bills are still alive. They got to they got to beat the cowboys next week
Because they they don't have a margin for error and it does get a little easier because they I think they play the Patriots and the
Chargers who might not have Justin Herbert
They put the but there's another must win next week backs against the wall time for Buffalo
Yeah, and I I mean it's actually not a bad spot for them because the cowboys are coming off
You know a huge win against the Eagles at home Sunday football now they have to go to Buffalo. You got to hope it's cold
Do you think there's any chance that McDermott was playing like 10 dimensional chess?
Do you think there's any chance that McDermott was playing like 10 dimensional chess? Hmm.
Waiting for this story to break.
He leaked it to Ty Dunne.
At the right time so that he could be like nobody believes in us.
It's us against the world.
Everyone's coming after your coach for saying that the 9-11 hijackers did a good job.
It's time to circle the wagons and go on a run here.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, backs against the wall.
Yeah. Maybe a genius move by Sean McDermott.
Genius.
Moop pairing Alcata. Listen, I still bet I'm 35 to one even after I was momentarily deterred
mm-hmm by you breaking that news to me on Friday. But yeah, I the bill, I don't, I still
think it's, it's still going to be very hard for them to make the playoffs. But if they
get there, given what's happened in the AFC in terms of injuries and the
flaws teams have looked like, like they are just as live as anyone else if they get into the dance.
Yeah, the point is you'd rather, you'd rather suck out loud for most of the year than have a star
player get hurt. Right. Right. Early on. Right. Right. And the Bill's defense is not playing better.
I mean, I couldn't couldn't believe on Miller was playing
But he is yeah, he's battling back to he's he's back. He's out there. Yeah, he's out there
Um, I saw I saw Andy read complaining that uh
That he was offside he was and he was offside
I saw another breakdown from Mitchell Schwartz. Yeah, yes parallax effect. We got parallax effect. Oh
He was actually on side oh cuz I saw the dots and he looked off sides on the dots
Yeah, you on the dots. He looked very on Bezos vision. I saw the dots. Okay. Well, okay, they ties tweeted out the dots
Okay, he was off sides according to the parallax effect per Mitchell Schwartz. He was on side. I
Chees fans you just you have to deal with this like I don't think anyone feels bad for you
No, there's no one who feels not really you get to root for the chiefs. That's all. Yeah, you get to root for patch
from a whole other decade plus. Yeah. So you had a couple losses that maybe had referees, you know, on the wrong side.
It's also worked out for you again in the past. So you can't be upset.
You can be upset. You can be upset. You can be upset. You can be upset. You can be upset, but just on the Super Bowl on nonsense.
Right, so you can be upset, just know that if you bring it up,
you're gonna get the response of James Brad Pitt.
You also went to the Super Bowl on a
Frank Clark nonsense offside.
Offside.
He was off-sides in that play.
They called it.
Yeah, but in a moment like that,
you can't call it.
You can't call it.
You got it, the refs need to have a better sense of the moment. Mm-hmm. That's all about it. Yeah, but in a moment like that, can't call it. Call it. Yeah, call it. You got it. The refs need to have a better sense of the moment. Mm-hmm.
That's all that last two minutes. There should just be no penalties. Yeah, like the boys play.
But the balls boys mall each other. I like that. Holding every like in hockey when they go to
to playoffs, like in the overtime periods and the playoffs, the refs just swall the whistle. Yeah,
let them run out there. Yeah, just let them go. Let them go. Um, okay.
That was a great game though. It wasn't the best played game like I said. It feels like they're
Both those defensive kind of figured out the offense because when they play they it doesn't feel like it's the shootout that we had in that playoff game It was still a history game just because you have all that history between those two quarterbacks. You do have history
And I I don't know what it is, but but the bills have never played the chiefs at home.
Nope.
They just always are an arrowhead.
Yep.
It always works that way.
And now we might get Patrick Mahomes,
the real question about his career.
Can he win a road playoff game?
I want to find out.
I want to find out too.
And it looks like we, I mean, they are,
I think I saw that nerd Steve Kronacki
said they have a 9% chance to get the one
seed now.
9%.
So if the dolphins and grievance play each other, so that helps them.
We'll see what happens.
Yeah.
But at the end of the day in the playoffs, I'm probably still going to be betting on Patrick
Mohams.
Yeah, no matter who he's playing against.
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So let's do our overly direct take of the weekend.
Hank.
My overly direct take of the weekend is that
the Eagles are gonna lose the first round of the playoffs.
Oh, Hank.
Now Hank, you wouldn't have just said that
because you didn't have an overly direct take and you wanted to say something that would
make Max angry, would you? No, no, I've been thinking about it. I was watching the defense,
defense was championships. Yeah. And the Eagles defense doesn't exist really. What he's
great that overly direct take, Max, as you always do. Uh, it's hot, hot take. It's overly
direct. Yep. PFT, what's your overly direct take? Uh, my overly direct take is that the New England
Patriots are eliminated from the playoffs. Oh, now PFT take over that.
Take that's my take. That's my take. That's my take. That's my take. That overly direct
take. Cause that that was Texas to us. No, I would never come up with it. Because it
was Texas to us. I just don't think that the Patriots are any good. Factor take.
Fact. Both. That is a fact. Yeah, I think it's any good. Factor take. Factor. Both.
That is a fact.
Yeah, I think it's both, too.
It's both.
I have an overly direct take that is not just off top my head.
It's something that I've actually been thinking about
for the last two days because I was lucky enough
to attend the Army Navy game on Saturday at Foxboro,
and I got to see the lighthouse in person.
In Foxboro. In Foxboro, what did I say? At Foxboro and I got to see the lighthouse in person in Foxboro.
In Foxboro, what I say at Foxboro.
Okay, and I got to see the lighthouse in person.
And my overly direct take is there's never been anyone
who's been more wrong about anything ever in the world
than Henry Lockwood about this lighthouse.
It doesn't even have a top to it.
It doesn't have a top to it.
What are you talking about?
I don't even have a real top to it.
So we can get ready.
Where do you think people stand? The lighthouse, you gotta have a top to it. It does have a top to it. What are you talking about? It doesn't have a real top to it. So we can get right on.
Where do you think people stand?
The lighthouse, you gotta have the top to it.
There's no top.
It's gotta have a top.
Are you talking about it?
There's no top.
Oh, lighthouse has to have a light.
No, a lighthouse, it has like a guardrail
around the outside.
It has it.
All lighthouses have this top
that gets really skinny at the top.
Doesn't have the top
It's the same fucking length the whole time look see that's what a lighthouse looks like you get the head of the penis
It doesn't have the head doesn't have it just it's all shaft. It's uncircumcised
Hanks never been more wrong about anything that's my overly direct. I did have probably hundreds of people
send me pictures of the lighthouse this weekend.
Yeah, it looks, I just look it's bad.
It looks bad.
It looks, I'll say this, it's a lot smaller in person
than I thought.
It would be a lot smaller in person.
You would never say that about how it's-
Rebeaut, real disappointed if you went to Cape Adder's then.
Cape Adder's is beautiful.
It's a great lighthouse.
Jake, what's your overly direct take?
My overly direct take brought to you by Direct TV is that the Texans, excuse me, the Broncos,
Bengals and Bills are all out of the playoffs right now.
They're all going to be the wild card teams in the AFC.
Broncos, Bengals, Bills.
Yes, they're going to overtake the Browns.
The Browns are not going to make the playoffs.
Yes.
Wow.
Disagree.
I disagree as well. I think a few weeks ago, my overly direct take was that Joe Flacco not going to make the playoffs. Yes. Wow. Disagree. I disagree as well.
I think a few weeks ago, my overly direct take was at Joe Flaka.
It's going to take them to the playoffs.
Oh, Jake, Jake, conflicting overly direct take.
Before we set down to record the show, Jake said, I am fired up about sportsmanship.
Yes.
I'm going to give you 10 seconds to be fired up about sportsmanship starting now.
I understand in the heat of the moment that Patrick Mahomes was upset, but he should not
have expressed that while he's doing the handshake with Josh Allen.
Jail.
There's 10 seconds.
That's a great, that's a tight 10 seconds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think he should have just been like good game.
I then he could have complained.
Yeah, sportsmanship.
But not saying it to him. Max, what's your overly direct take?
Uh, Bronny James will win an NBA finals before the Patriots make the playoffs again.
Oh!
Bronny James played in his first game at USC today.
He's going to lose NBA.
He lost his minus 1000 favorites.
He scored four points.
And over time, the Long Beach State.
Yeah, but, you know, Bronn's going to make them draft him.
Before the Patriots make the playoffs? Yes. Well, I asked., bronze gonna make them draft him. Before the pages just make the playoffs.
Yes.
Well, I will, well, he might,
he might actually know.
Now Max, this isn't because you're
not gonna need me.
He might be in the NBA because he's a
bronze son.
He's not gonna play.
He'll be on a roster.
He'll probably be on the bronze team.
Yeah, yeah.
But by the time that happens,
the last gonna be washed washed.
They're not gonna make and the
patrons fucking stay. They're just gonna
They're just gonna bring him in for camp and no hold them up as the last guy
They're about to have the number one two or three pick dude. No, not one. That's mine
Yeah, I got that. I told you I fucking put it right next to me when I drive into work every day put the buckle on
He's fucking pat it on the head like hey there is I carried around
Put it right next to me Mazurati, Marv
I'm sit down
Hey people come by and like hey, what is that? What is that sit next to you?
So this is an amazing. Yeah, exactly that is exactly how I treat the number one pick and walk around
That's cute. Yeah, and who would throw the ball to Mazurati, Marv?
Maybe we sound flacco.
That sounds like a playoff team, huh?
Be smart. Like, if I listened, my, if I had to like do like a,
a will or something, I'd list like all my financial assets and I,
I'd include the number one pick. Like, I have this.
That's a lot.
I thought you're going to say more than you have.
I'm going to list like your money
goes to the number one pay.
That's true.
One of your depictions.
In case of a death,
we give all my money to the number one pick.
Okay, good job.
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Hank, get us go
Speaking of cash who show hey, who yeah, he signed with Dodgers 10 years 700 mill
He deferred posted about it on Instagram, which I appreciate said sorry. It took so long the funniest post ever
It was like a picture of he just googled dodgers and like probably screenshot it downloaded to screenshot it the first picture so it was in like 280 p
Celebrating the the biggest contract in sports history baseball. Yeah, it is he doesn't want to get sued
It's the biggest contract. I think that I saw a stat. He's gonna make a
Million dollars every 20 innings.
Yeah, it's a pretty nice contract for him. I do appreciate the fact that he apologized
for making us wait so long. Yeah, that was nice. Very, very polite. We also had over the weekend
a very funny thing that happened when John Morsey, who's a writer for MLB Network, had reported
that Shohei was on a flight to Toronto from Anaheim.
It actually turned out to be Mr. Wonderful.
Oh no, it was Robert Herkovich from Shark Tank.
And so everyone all day was like, Shohei's going to Toronto, Shohei's going to Toronto.
It was pretty much the best thing that happened to the Blue Jays since Joe Carter.
And then John Morris had to tweet an apology saying today,
I posted a reporting that included inaccurate information
that Shohei Otoni was traveling to Toronto.
I regret the mistake and apologize to baseball fans everywhere.
I'm deeply sorry for letting you down.
I did not accept his apology.
No, I mean, the people of Toronto should not accept that.
No, you had one day where you thought
that the next 10 years of your life, we're gonna be awesome.
That's a huge difference.
And that year you can't take that away.
In a row that the biggest free agent
signing at Winthrop meetings has been misreported.
Last year, Arson Judge.
Arson Judge.
I go to the Giants from John Heyman.
Yeah.
And now this year, so.
Yeah, show a though, man, 700 million.
And I just want to say one thing about,
you know, I can, I consider myself one of the teams
that came second place.
A lot of teams came second place in the show Hey,
Sweet Sakes, I was hoping the Cubs were going to find a way
to sign them.
I don't think they ever got to that number.
The one thing I don't like is when everyone's like,
that's a fucking overpay, he's injured.
It's like, if the rolls were averse,
you would be so over the moon about this.
And yes, every contract, free agent contract,
and MLB history is an overpay
because you're paying for past accomplishments.
And who cares?
There's no salary cap, it's not your money.
Right, it's a very rich person's money.
And they want to support.
And also with this contract in particular,
they're not just paying for Shohei,
they're paying for all the marketing
that goes along with Shohei.
Yes.
All the merch that they're gonna sell with Shohei on it.
It's an investment in a person in like a business sense.
Yeah, that's why I thought it made sense
for the Cubs to try to get him.
It's, but the one sport that you really can't do the,
oh, overpay is baseball because there's no salary cap.
What do you do, luxury tax?
Okay.
Who cares?
Yeah, there's this upset that their owner has less money.
Right.
That's what you're mad about.
Yeah, he's gonna be awesome.
And you know what?
When he's like 37 years old, making $70 million a year,
it probably won't be a very good contract,
just like every baseball contract ever.
Yeah, so rice Harper, Aaron, Judge, all these guys might
try out like these contracts will not go well at the end
of the deal. That's not what you're paying for.
You're paying for the prime of their career.
Yeah, so there was a rumor that that
so hey, O'Connor's dog's name was going to give away a clue
as he was going to sign.
I don't think we know what his dog's name is yet.
No, he did a whole feature and he wouldn't reveal his dog's name.
He won't reveal it.
Apparently.
What if it's Tommy?
It might be Tommy.
Yeah, was sort of.
Sort of.
It might be magic.
It might be magic.
Magic the dog.
There was, yeah, a lot of speculation about what his dog's name was.
And he said that if any team, one of the things was the teams cannot leak to the press,
what his dog's name is.
I love it.
So not just like the meetings he was going to,
where he said that he would look upon those disfavorably.
If it leaked out, anybody that leaked out his dog's name
was obviously gonna be taken off the list.
A great job everybody, keeping his name,
the dog's name off your lips.
Yeah, good job by Shohei, 700 million,
just insane, insane amount of money.
Good for him, 700 million is so much
fucking money so much money god and it's worth it me again he's worth it and he's gonna and after
taxes it's like 20 million in California have you heard that have you heard that joke man imagine
doing that in California shout out to the journalists who are on the show. Hey, oh, Tony beat from Japan not having to move to Toronto
I love Toronto beautiful city, but I think they probably were like wait
We have to go to Toronto. It's also I wouldn't put a past show Hey to be like you know what?
I don't want to inconvenience all the reporters that over here from yes, and I've gotten to know Los Angeles so much
I'd like it if they could stay local to and and skip bail has said that now LeBron is
Is the second star in that city he
takes a back seat to show a cuz show hey move from anaheim to LA. I love that if you put
I don't think he even moved if you put a Rorschach test in front of skip bail is no matter what the
ink blood is he's like LeBron. Yeah LeBron. How can I make this about LeBron? That's LeBron.
Uh all right you're who's back PFT. Uh my who's back of the week is Jaden Daniels. Yeah, we did it.
Congratulations.
Jaden Daniels is your Heisman trophy winner.
There was never really a secondary choice
as far as I saw things.
We're unbiased.
We look at the tape, we look at the stats.
He had a historical, actually, no,
I'm gonna walk that back for a second.
I think Marvin Harrison Jr.
would have been very deserving of this award.
And I wanna say that because I realized realized people might have thought that we've been sliding
Marvin Harrison Jr. in the past.
In case Marvin Harrison Sr. is listening to this show, we have nothing but respect for
Marvin Harrison Jr.
We love Marvin Harrison Jr. and also you don't get enough credit as a wide receiver
and you're a great human being, great person. You're the best Marvin Harrison senior. Don't hold that against us
But the point is Jane Daniels won he deserved to win and there was a lot of people complaining because they're like oh
His his numbers against fcs teams is what made it
Good. I actually saw a treat last night against power five teams jaden Daniels leads the nation in power
Passer-rating yards per, total yards per game, total yards, yards per play,
QB rush yards plays the 20 plus yards, big time throw percentage offense of
great big time throw presumes. That sounds important. There was one guy I
responded to. I don't know if you guys saw he was saying, oh, he just had if it
wasn't for the Georgia state game, he would have finished fourth in Heisman voting. And this was my response to this guy.
Oh, you when you had touchdowns against Georgia state. Why don't you go cry about it, buddy?
And I farted in his face. Yeah. So fuck everyone who didn't think the only argument I would
understand is that if you want to do the like, if you tell the story of college football of this season,
Michael Pentax was the mourn pack full because Washington being undefeated all that,
but numbers wise, yeah,
J. Daniels was out of this world good.
Also, the jacket Pentax was wearing was awesome.
Yes, the entire family was, was I graded them best stress family.
The entire suit that he was wearing, it was like velvet, velour,
and he had all of his teammates names printed on the inside of his jacket. the best stress family. The entire suit that he was wearing, it was like velvet, valour,
and he had all of his teammates' names printed
on the inside of his jacket.
That to me, when I saw that,
I thought to myself, like, fuck,
he's gonna win the Heismat rule.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't have been that mad about it
because he seems like it's a great story
and he seems like a nice guy.
But they made the right call.
They made the right call.
It was also very funny when Bonix went up
and it was like Bonix with his parents and his wife.
And it was like, oh, yeah, Bonix is very old.
Yep, he's played a lot of college football.
Yep, that's right.
All right, my who's back the week is Los Angeles Lakers,
raising another banner.
Congratulations.
The in-season tournament concluded
with the Lakers beating the Pacers in Vegas.
Couple thoughts from that game.
So I do think the in season tournament was fun.
It was something different that got you excited about MBA in a time when MBA is competing
about against the NFL and college football.
It's a blood bath.
So for them to try something new, I'm all for the other thing was that it's always fun.
Whenever he decides he wants to do it, but Anthony Davis
just being like, oh, tonight, I'm going to be the best player in the entire world.
He was dominant that first.
He had he had 41, 20 and five. And he was like the Pacer's defense or offense couldn't
do anything because he was just everywhere on defense. It was an insane performance from Anthony Davis.
Like he is, when he's at his peak, he is, yeah,
Yokeh and Yannis, but like he's up there.
He is, when he wants to be like,
I'm gonna do everything offense and defense.
He's one of the best players, top three players in the NBA.
Also credit to the NBA for timing this exactly perfectly.
Yeah, what a great data.
Right after the Heisman.
Yeah.
Have it after the Heisman,
have it be the only sport that we're paying attention to
at that time.
Like if this is baseball trying to figure out
in off season or in season tournament,
they would have it at the,
they probably have it like on Memorial Day Friday.
Yeah.
And that would be the conclusion of the tournament.
But this was, it was a perfect time.
We're all looking for something to watch.
The courts dig grow on me a little bit. A little bit.
And the lighting.
It was mostly the lighting.
Yeah.
The lighting felt different.
And LeBron popping champagne was kind of funny.
Yeah.
It's like, it's early December.
Also just a recommendation, the 30 for 30 they did on the 1997 Heisman Race was awesome.
I watched that right after the Heisman, then I watched the second half of the M. So that
really just shows you how much football just dominates.
We just wanted that I was like,
oh, this is just a time machine to 1997 college football.
Yeah, I could watch the second half
of the N.C.'s internment later.
Oh, I'll watch a recap of like the 2007 college football season
anytime it's on.
Yeah.
Whenever the algorithm just pops it up, I surrender.
Okay, you've got my attention.
Also shout out Armin A.V.,
maybe the most thrilling over that's ever been hit in the history of gambling. I'll remember that for the rest of
my life. It was safety to hit over 27 and a half. I had army and so that was big. It was,
I mean, just incredible. Like those are those are the ones that you remember on your deathbed.
People like, oh, you're not going to remember these game. No, I will remember the Army Navy
over in 2023 with a safety out of the back of the end zone. I was screaming for it. As soon as I got, they got the ball. It was a correct
play. Yeah. It was a correct play. You got to go for the safety. Oh, take this. Ah, the
minute Navy got stopped, my brain immediately flipped over. I was like, wait, there's three
seconds. They have to take a safety. They have to take a safety. So yeah, that was awesome.
It was good. It was a good Saturday. That and going right into Jane Daniels. All right,
Jake finishes off my who's back in the week is poop and going right into Gene Daniels. All right, Jake finishes off.
My who's back in the week is pooping in closets.
That's stadiums.
Yes.
Because the Bears fan did just that.
Today it's soldier field.
Yeah.
When you got to go, you got to go.
Real men of genius.
Yeah.
Speaking of, I got to go.
Oh, okay.
Go poop.
Shout out dinner.
All right, what?
Shout out dinner.
Just a closet.
What number do you want, Jake?
Shout out, Jake. Okay. Good show, boys. Dinner all right what what what number do you want?
Good show boys Max at any last words about you you really don't like the cowboys Max. I don't like Hank
I like fuck is all this is I told everything. We just one third inning that like it's rare that we're not in the the Iron of Max because usually we're the ones pushing the troll but Hank went full cowboy you can never take away what we went through last
week max was you go last week oh the 24 hours well no I mean it was 23 hours
and also you slept well max stayed up this fun times I was fun I'd have blast I
love max how late did you guys sleep in on Friday?
Oh, yeah.
I had to do the fucking dozen first thing in the morning and...
That's mean by Jeff.
Yeah, my brain was...
Not that it's ever firing, but it was blank.
Then I went back to sleep...
So then I woke up with like one or two.
What's it? When did you sleep till Max?
I slept till like 11 and then...
I like made 11 and then I made breakfast
and then fell back asleep at like noon until 4.45.
I love that.
I love it.
It must have felt so good.
It was waking up.
No, it's still, you still a little off.
Yeah.
And I've also, my sleep schedule's fucked.
I slept until noon, both the last two days.
So tomorrow could be an issue.
I'm so jealous of that. What about you memes? I just slept on noon, both the last two days. So tomorrow could be an issue. I'll be right back.
I'm so jealous of that.
What about you, memes?
Slap till 10, woke up, did some more stuff, went right back to bed, and woke up at like
three, did some more work stuff, then went back to bed, till the next day.
What time did you go to bed on Friday?
So it was around like five, and I just slept through.
That's amazing. You time traveled. Yeah.
That's been having a bad day. Javu too. Yeah.
Uh, all right. We got stop on Wednesday.
Stop the studio. Um, all right. Number 40, 71, 20. What did you say?
Three. 99. No, he already picked 18. Oh, Jake took it. Yeah, it took a damn it. 40 71 20 what did you say three?
No, he already picked 18. Oh Jake took it. Yeah, it took a damn it. All right. Hey out
20. What was that? Who's laughing? Pugs has pug after everyone 99 pug
It's Shane. that a two?
Sure, yeah, how do we know
That is 81 yep, so yeah cuz the bottom bottom line
So I love you guys Days are not day to find, shine I'm coming to the level of good
I'm coming to the level of good
Don't want me
Hey, me
I'm here
I'm here to help you
And he wants to say
I'm on set in, it's about me, so I'm in a way
Learning, learning, life is okay, say I'm clean
Like it's the better to be safe than sorry
It's the better to be safe than sorry
Like it's the better to be safe than sorry
Say, come on me, take me home, I'll be gone, you're not the one to go
Things that you say, you're getting it, you're not on me
Just wait, but, but, you're not the one to stop that, you're not on me
You shine a light, love can be with you anyway
It can be with you anyway, love can be for you anyway We coming for you anyway Love coming for you anyway
Hey, come on me
Hey, come on me
Hey, come on
I'll be gone
In a dream Thank you.