Pardon My Take - NFL Week 14, Fastest 2 Minutes, Vikings For Real, Bears Still Suck, Seahawks Surging And The College Football Playoff Has Been Announced

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

NFL Week 14, we start with fastest 2 minutes and then get into every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:09:36) Vikings 42, Falcons 21 (00:09:36-00:20:29) Steelers 27, Browns 14 (00:20:29-00:26:08) Eagle...s 22, Panthers 16 (00:26:08-00:35:00) Bucs 28, Raiders 13 (00:35:00-00:43:25) Saints 14, Giants 11 (00:43:25- 00:49:23) Dolphins 32, Jets 26 (00:49:23-01:05:55) Jaguars 10, Titans 6 (01:05:55-01:10:59) Niners 38, Bears 13 (01:13:48-01:23:10) Seahawks 30, Cardinals 18 (01:23:10-01:26:50) Rams 44, Bills 42 (01:26:50-01:32:16) Chiefs 19, Chargers 17 (01:32:16-01:39:23) We finish with who's back of the week and talk College Football Bracket reveal (01:48:53-02:06:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music on today's part of my take NFL Week 14. We've got a lot to discuss. There were some stinkers. There also was the Bills Rams game, which was incredible. The Bears fucking suck. The Steelers and Vikings.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I'm ready to start putting a lot more respect on their name. We're also going to talk a little college football playoff because it did just come out. So we'll maybe break down the bracket. I know we usually do Wednesdays, but I feel like we have to do it today. We're going to do Who's Back of the Week. Fastest two minutes. It's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings.
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Starting point is 00:02:43 Today is Monday, December 9th, week 14. They're not gonna get them. SOMSPREAD! We start in Minnesota where Sam Hey, Darnold, played like a real football head or as we should call him Mr. Wynn. The announcers started calling Darnold Tyrick Hill with how many times he looked to add a son after Jordan scored three times on Sundays. Shirk Responsibilities cousins look like mincy out there sharing two bad picks and refusing
Starting point is 00:03:23 to go anywhere but south as it may be time Atlanta to take out their PENIX. Vikings 42, Falcons 21. WAP WAP We go to Nashville, Tennessee where yesterday someone macked out my mural. That type of energy will make the Jags move to Europe. With no area on a blonde day, Trevor Lawrence, the Jags were relying on their ground game saying take you next, Bigsby. Tony Hinchcliffe Pollard yet again roasted a giant pile of garbage known as the Jaguars D, while kicker Nick Fulked around and had a triple double making
Starting point is 00:03:57 both field goals. Doug Skeeterson keeps edging delaying the firing that will never come. Meanwhile Brian Callahan Job is struggling to maintain a firm grip, leaving many Titans fans wondering if they could just do a better job themselves. Jaguars 10, Titans 6, the Jaguars? Huh? Huh? Winning streak and flora? Down to Tampa where patty cake patty cake bakers men bake me a Kade as fast as you can.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Throw it and toss it and run it with Bucky Put it in the oven for Chay B and me the Bucks seemed to be playing like there was bad blood Against AIDS in O'Connell and we're all smiles going giving HIVs I'm sorry that was Roman numerals high fives on the sidelines Desmond Ritter came on in relief the only thing Desmond does is rid of your team a chance of Ever winning a football game again nice guy though heard he's a really nice guy. Very nice guy bucks 28 Raiders 13 And we're staying in the state of Florida over to memes in Miami this just in Tyreek Hill has another BM Not baby mama the dump
Starting point is 00:05:02 He just left on the Jets the Dolphins took a big number 2 on the Jets, beating them in OT 32-26. Anders Carlsen was a workaholic with 4 field goals and 2 extra points. Aaron Kenny Rogers didn't play like a chicken today and got no help from running back. Brandon Dew the Chickens have large allens. Who looked anything but dynamite. They need a win. Stop doing this voice. They need a win next week to prevent being the Rizzler's height.
Starting point is 00:05:29 3-11. Dolphin32. Jet26. Oh, the Rizzler. My favorite guy in the world. Okay, we head over to Maxx, Carolina and Philadelphia. We head to Philly where Bryce Neil Young was saying, there's a lot of people saying we won't touch the spread don't feel like the Giants But I am to them
Starting point is 00:05:51 So I try to forget it anyway I can Keep all rockin in the green world And rock they did for most of this game largely in part in part to Jake Malasek Elliot who had fans wondering What is going on with NFL kickers? Trailing by six the Panthers had a chance to take the lead late in the fourth But Xavier goose eggette ended with a zero in the touchdown department after dropping the game-winning score Eagles 22 Panthers 16 We go down to Glendale where the Cardinals dressed in all black and laid in wait for the Seattle CEO Hawks. But Kyle Murray
Starting point is 00:06:30 misfired twice early and Zach Chardonnay made them wine as he barreled in for a couple sips pointers. Michael Jackson Smith and Jigba were singing Billy Geno's Not My Lover. He's just a guy who once got punched in the jaw But he likes throwing me the ball Adding a score as a Seahawks escape like smooth criminals with a division win Seahawks 30 Garnos 18 Staying out west to San Francisco where clock purdy looked like Big Ben letting the Bears know what time it was Saying this is our game to lose and all the Bears could do was watch. Clock Purdy also looked like Big Ben, stalling in the pocket until he got exactly what he
Starting point is 00:07:12 wanted. George Lucas Kittle almost OB-1 this game solo, mauling all over Soft Bears defense. For those asking if the Niners are still good, y, duh. Well, Caleb Williams couldn't compose a score. If you're asking what Brown can do for you, well, the answer is not win a football game as the Bears lose again. Niners 38, Bears 13. For the game of the day, Henry Lockwood was on the scene. Yes, in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Kyron Sanat Williams said, thank you, Bills, for the seven gifted points as he crossed over the goal line to get the scoring started. Josh Allen Ginsburg punched in a one yarder and then howled at the hostile Rams crowd. In the second quarter, the Bills dropped back to punt and is blocked and scooped up by Hunter S Thompson-Lung and he was gonzo into the end zone for another touchdown. Pookie Hoctua was pulling the rug from under the Bills D all day to the tune of 162 yards
Starting point is 00:08:13 and two scores as the Bills tried to mount a comeback return of the Mack Hollins caught a TD as did Khalil Shakira's whose hips did not lie. However the Bills defense did and they fall in a shootout 44-42 great job Hank was that a was that a poetry reference Henry multiple boom wow I didn't know you were that educated I'm literate standing on the corner Jamis Winston Cuyoga, such a fine sight to see. You're not to shun, thank God, Watson's not allowed to wave a towel terribly. Come on Tony, could Darius blow me? The stealers put some fries on your baloney.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Stealers 27, Browns 14, and that is the fastest two minutes for week 14 in the NFL. It's brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks, and that's because for part of my take, there's only one pickup truck the Chevy Silverado Why is that Silverado is a partner a partner you can depend on we've all spent time driving and using the Silverado for all kinds of pardon my Jake take jobs Adventures and other shenanigans Silverado has been our ride for a cross-country trip to the Super Bowl Silverado helped us dig the biggest hole ever in the state of Ohio last year a great week and they have
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Starting point is 00:10:36 this where it's like, there were multiple games that I was not watching whatsoever. There were teams also that I missed. Yeah, there were big hole like I miss I miss watching Jaden play football. Yeah, that's what I realized today. You missed who else was on by Ravens the Ravens are a big hole big hole, big gaping gaping hole with the Ravens gaping hole from the Ravens. The Colts Colts Anthony Richardson. Yeah, I missed him doing something doing something crazy, something crazy and having a discourse about it. But we did have a couple of good games early. Patriots. Missed them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And no, no bow. Yeah. No bow. No bow. I forgot about bow. Yeah. Should never forget about bow. We did have though, I, I, uh, I walked away from Sunday being like, I think there are
Starting point is 00:11:16 two teams that I'm not respecting enough. And we'll start with the first one. Vikings 42, Falcons 21. This was the Sam Darnold show and Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson But holy shit Sam Darnold was 22 for 28 347 yards 5 touchdowns and the Vikings Why aren't we talking about the Vikings like the Eagles and the Lions? I know that they have a couple tough games coming up, but damn the Vikings are good
Starting point is 00:11:41 So it's funny you brought that up again because I pulled up the Vikings schedule here And so they've got the Bears. Yeah win for them the Seahawks Yeah, the Packers and the Lions last two weeks are gonna be very very interesting at least yeah They're gonna find out what they really are But the Vikings are all they do is just keep winning they had that two-game losing streak Where they lost the Lions then lost the Rams with the Sam Donald face mass call. But they're just really, really good. And I know this was a close game for a while and then Ray Ray McLeod fumbled and the, and it basically just opened up wide. But the Sam Donald is awesome. Sam Donald, are we at the point where the Vikings should
Starting point is 00:12:21 consider resigning Sam? Yes, yes, you you probably should because JJ is probably good, but you don't know. But we know that Sam's good. Sam Donald is also only 27 years old. We know that Sam is good. Yeah, he was really good today. I don't want to hear anybody waiting for Sam Donald to turn back into a pumpkin. He might. He's turning into pumpkin spice.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Mm-hmm. It's de-Samber. Yeah. Get on board. Like those, I thought. Like those I thought there were I thought it was replays when we were watching because it was it just there's multiple times where he would scramble around and then hit Jordan Addison or Justin
Starting point is 00:12:53 Jefferson just standing by themselves. Yeah, 50 yards down the field. The Vikings have achieved like a full circle thing where Justin Jefferson amazing receiver. And we all know that he's so like physically dominant that you have to put like two guys on him. receiver. And we all know that. He's so physically dominant that you have to put two guys on him. And then Jordan Addison, he started to put up so many numbers that people were like, oh, fuck, we got to cover Jordan Addison.
Starting point is 00:13:13 How do we do this? And guess what? Jefferson is back open now. Yes. Yeah. They basically were switching back and forth. They were doing the Ray Allen tweet with the receivers. They were.
Starting point is 00:13:21 There was one play in particular where I think it was it was Jefferson had his hand up after like, he's like six yards downfield kept his hand up for about 10 seconds to throw him the damn ball. Yeah, then the Falcons defensive back just falls down. Jefferson catches it walks into the end zone. They did the white girls dance on them. Yeah, they got pretty disrespectful. Well, they scored so many times they had to like they got deep. Jordan hasn't scored three times Justin Jefferson scored twice. I feel like both those guys once you get your third touchdown you're deep in your bag of celebration. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But I'm impressed that they had that many celebrations choreographed ready to go. Yeah. Well it was I just think the Vikings are surging at the right time. This also was I don't think there's bad blood with Vikings fans and Kirk cousins but it had to feel good knowing that Sam Darnold had his best game of his career in front of Kirk Cousins who left the franchise last year or this off season. And Sam Darnold in his last four games is 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions. Kirk Cousins is zero touchdowns, eight interceptions. Yeah, it looks like he went back into a pumpkin.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It is... Not a lot of quarterbacks have gone four weeks with zero touchdowns eight interceptions yes he looks like he went back into a pumpkin I he it is not a lot of quarterbacks have gone four weeks with zero touchdowns it's bad and it wasn't all Kirk Cousins fault because they were well no I mean they're the Falcons defense was just letting guys run wide open it Kirk hasn't played well he that that interception that one-handed interception the end zone by the Vikings was so sick that's a good pick I think Kirk said after the game that it was at one point it was tied 21-21 and then I think it might have been. I think that was the Ray Rarer McLeod.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, then the next time he touched the ball I think they were down 14. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think the Vikings scored then kicked off then the Ray Rarer McLeod then it just the whole game got away from them. But I- So there is a little bit of bad blood there because they booed him. Yeah. They greeted Kirk Cousins with booze. I didn't expect that personally love to be greeted with booze. Yeah. But for Kirk, like, it seems a little I don't know,
Starting point is 00:15:12 maybe they don't like the fact that he left. I don't know, he could have taken less money and stayed there. He was pretty good for a really long time. Maybe it's just like they never got to a Super Bowl. Well, I shouldn't I shouldn't condescend towards Vikings fans because I actually know exactly what they're going through. Because I myself dealt with it for a while post Kirk Cousins. You get frustrated Kirk for not being like a great quarterback. You have him on your team for a while. He's pretty good and he's pretty consistent most of the time. And then he leaves to take more money somewhere. And you're like, I hate that guy because I feel like I wasted years of potentially good
Starting point is 00:15:46 teams. You shouldn't boo in this game because Kirk Cousins helped you win this game. Sam Donald is significantly better at this point of his career than Kirk Cousins. Correct. The best revenge is living well. Yeah. So it was, when I say it wasn't all Kirk Cousins fault, he did not play well. He has not played well in the last four games, But the Falcons did have 127 yards of penalty
Starting point is 00:16:05 penalties. They had the fumble on the kickoff. They also just let Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson run wild. The Falcons are we said on Friday, we're going to we're going to be doing this show on Monday and it's going to be the Bucs in first place in the NFC South. And that's exactly what happened. And the Falcons are it just feels like it's all falling apart at the end here. And Michael Pennex, it might feels like it's all falling apart at the end here. And Michael Pennex. It might be Pennex time. It might be Pennex time. You drafted him. Why wouldn't you get him a little like. In a weird way, that might've been a great move on draft night. We'll see what happens. But the way that Kirk's playing, having a first round pick that you can go to is a
Starting point is 00:16:42 luxury that I think a lot of teams don't have if he's at least a spark He's something new. Well, and if the season is is I mean they still have the tiebreaker against the Bucs and their schedule is not Super super hard. The hardest game is against the commanders They play the Raiders and Giants next but if you're if your season's over you might as well get Michael Penick's in Yeah, you got to get him some starts So then the Vikings have they don't really have a decision make this offseason because you kind of have to keep Kirk cousins or mean the Falcons started the Falcons. Yes, because Vikings do
Starting point is 00:17:10 have a yes, you have to say you have a big decision make but the the Falcons kind of have their hands tied in a way. Because I don't know, I always know the NFL salaries and contracts are fake cousins cap hit next year is his salary is pretty much guaranteed for two seasons. Got it. So if you cut them this off season, you're going to own like $50 million against the cap. Got it. Falcons don't have a lot of cap room to work with. The only thing you can try maybe to work out, but he probably has no trade clause is a trade with another team that is in a similar situation with a quarterback that they're paying way too much
Starting point is 00:17:42 guaranteed money to. Yeah. The Browns. Yeah. That would be interesting. That would be interesting. That would be very interesting. I think that they both probably have no trade clauses, but didn't Deshaun, he was like thinking about going to the Falcons? I think so. I just don't think Kirk would go to Cleveland. I don't think that makes sense. And also Cleveland spoken for. Yes. Jamis is gonna be there and he's gonna get, he's gonna get a new young quarterback. They're going to draft one. He's going to train him and we're going to he's going to keep the Jamis flame going forever. But yeah, I feel like the clock is ticking now with Kirk Cousins. Very nice guy. But especially if the season like what have they lost four in a row and it feels like they have no momentum whatsoever. This is why last week was actually
Starting point is 00:18:24 the game. I was like last week was actually the game That was like that had to be the most disappointing game because their defense played so well last week against the Chargers And then you went back to being the Falcons defense this week And now yeah, I throw in Michael Pennex. Yeah, it's going Michael Pennex. Do you think cousins is hurt? He might be he could just be older. He looks uncomfortable. Yeah. He looks very uncomfortable in the pocket. Also playing at Ryan Flores defense is not fun. That's true. Do you think that some teams, like do you think the Falcons blitz more today
Starting point is 00:18:50 because they were playing against that defense? Yeah. That blitzes you more? Yeah. Send their coordinators like, if you're gonna, I'm gonna blitz you too. Yeah, let's do a nuclear arms race of blitzes. And you should not blitz Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold is really good against the blitz. And they're like, hey, you call off the blitz, we And you should not blitz Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold is really good against the Blitz.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And they're like, hey, you call off the Blitz, we'll call off the Blitz. Yeah, exactly. You get to Gentlemen's game, no more Blitzes. You get caught into playing their game. Yeah. Yeah, no, Sam Darnold, that was the best game of his career.
Starting point is 00:19:15 He's 27 years old. Is it crazy to watch this, memes? Yeah, it's wild. Should have been on the Jets, but he's on the purple pasture. He always had it in him. But yeah, to your original point, I was going toets, but Yeah on the purple pasture. He always got to your original point I was gonna say I feel like the the Vikings are right there like second tier NFC Yeah, and I don't I don't know I mean it will they'll prove it when they play the Lions in the in the Packers like if they beat the Lions the Packers
Starting point is 00:19:37 Why aren't they first here? Yeah, they could be yeah, so it's I mean they played the Lions very close They've already beaten the Packers. They beat the Eagles, too And the best in the preseason Max Max is getting upset. There's no way Max a lot Just so you know the last minute of part of my take has been me and big cat Subtly trolling you hoping that you'll lose your shit. No, I think the Vikings are really good They're good the Vikings look different this week. I thought I thought this was like an eye-opening week for the correct, correct I was like this is all there are frauds and I'm like there they're legit Yeah, right because I don't know like no matter how good your defense is
Starting point is 00:20:13 Having to cover their weapons is a matchup nightmare. Like there's just no there's they're so goddamn good And and it looks like the Vikings. I mean they're 11 and two right now. It feels like they're, I mean, unless they can beat the Packers and the Lions, they're going to be in that fifth seed and they're going to be a team that no one wants to play. Well, so they beat the Packers 31 29. They lost to the Lions 31 29. Yeah, they're right in there. The Packers game was the one where Jordan love was terrible in the first half and then caught fire and the Lions game was back and forth. Yeah I'm a believer in the Vike. I feel like the NFC playoffs I've been thinking of it
Starting point is 00:20:50 as like a two team race and we'll actually get to another team the Seahawks where it's like there are five teams now in the NFC playoffs. I'm like I don't know man they're playing great ball right now. Yeah Kevin O'Connell may be coach of the year. He's in the discussion. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. 100%, 100%. Okay, next up, Steelers-Browns. Steelers 27, Browns 14.
Starting point is 00:21:14 The Steelers regular season home game streak against the Browns can now officially drink. It's 21 years since the Browns have beaten the Steelers in the regular season in Pittsburgh. Also, the Browns have not swept the Steelers since 1988. Yeah, I saw the 88 thing. That's a rough one. But you did win that playoff game. I know it was COVID. But you'll always have that. That counts. That absolutely counts.
Starting point is 00:21:40 We got a little bad Jameis today. Yeah, I'd say so. My problem with Jameis's first interception today wasn't that it was thrown into a defensive tackle, wasn't that it was a misguided throw, ill-advised throw. It wasn't a fun Jameis interception. No. I get bummed out when I see boring Jameis Winston dull interceptions. He just missed that the lineman slipped there, slipped underneath and was standing right there for it. Yeah, we we did however get some Caderius Tony slapstick comedy today. Oh my god
Starting point is 00:22:12 So he muffed the pun at the very end just kind of dropped it and fell down But the punt that he had before that where he caught it Successfully and then after the whistle just threw the ball at the Steelers Yeah, and got a penalty like he's he is the best at actively Making your team lose game. He has to be the record in negative EPA negative war Yeah I the when he when he then the ball went just right through his hands for the punt Mm-hmm. We all were like wait was that canary is Tony? What the fuck? He is
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, he's not good and and the Browns had him out there the Browns also have maybe the worst kicker in the league because I feel like Hopkins just misses a kick every single week and There the Browns the Browns are bad, but I I walked away from this game the Steelers no George Pickens Not as fun without George Pickens. Although Pat Fryermuth did punt a ball into The stands and he said someone had to get fined with George out. Yep pretty he did that one for George like yeah one out Yeah, yeah But the Steelers defense showed why they're one of the best units in Football and Russ who was bad not great in the first half kind of righted it in the second half got Mike Williams going Yeah, I'm ready
Starting point is 00:23:21 I'm ready for the steel like stills gonna be a really tough Because I'm always thinking like the old Russ is gonna sh... not old, old Russ, but like Broncos Russ is gonna show up. Yeah. It might just be dead. He might just be... he might just be old Russ, Seahawks Russ. He's playing with a lot more confidence. Like, with the way that he's moving around the pocket, he's not really thinking. He's just going. Yeah. Which is good Russ, and then the moonballs are back for sure. The Steelers defense was awesome today. First play of the game, the Browns ran the play where they don't block TJ Watt, and they hope that he's not fast enough to get to the ball carrier. It happens every week. I don't know. I still have no idea how teams try to do this
Starting point is 00:23:59 and think they can get away with it. Yeah, they also did the play where they didn't block Alex Highsmith multiple times. Yeah, that one. It was it was just a Steelers defense was all over Jamis. And by the way, Jamis, I think God answered his prayers because the interception he did throw did not result in a pick six through two. Neither of them brought back for an inter for a touchdown delivered from pick six delivered from pick sixes. He's good. I do want Jamis to, to stick around in Cleveland. I want them to draft a quarterback. I want him to have like a new puppy that he can, you know, train and maybe get some life back into Jamis. I want that. What about what about Shador Sanders to the Browns? There's no way then
Starting point is 00:24:36 then Deion Sanders will let Shador Sanders go to the Browns. And then Jamis gets then they bring Deion up to be co head coaches Kevin and then they put Jamis at offensive coordinator in the year. Yeah, there's there's zero percent chance. No. Should do her Sanders. By the way, I have I have a tweet because everyone you know, says that Jamis had a bad game. You know, not great. I just want to throw this out there. Jamis Winston 45. I don't know what that is. I don't know what the 45 is. So 240 yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions, loss versus an elite defense. People say bum can't trust them. Kyler had 275 yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions, loss, but he got paid. Cousins, 344 yards,
Starting point is 00:25:19 zero touchdowns, two interceptions, loss, also paid. Bryce Bryce 220 yards, one touchdown, one interception. He's been rejuvenated. Jamis has never judged versus peers but verse perfection so he can be denigrated. There you go. That was one of one. That's how it goes. Let the record show Jamis did not have the worst week of any quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. And again, bum can't trust them while everyone else gets paid. So now the Steelers are in a two-game lead in that division right they got ten wins Ravens have eight and they got the big game coming up next weekend the big game the big game against the Eagles right the Battle of Pennsylvania yeah the Stiegels that's gonna be a we'll find out if the Eagles are for real yeah game if they're on
Starting point is 00:25:59 the Vikings level yet yeah yeah but I am I'm a full believer in Russ. So what it's crazy to say I never thought I'd be back here. What is holding you back from fully believing in the Steelers because I believed in him for no about a month. I'm saying I do. Is there anything though, like if you were to nitpick them in the playoffs? Yeah, it's Russ. It's Russ. Yeah, it's Russ like ending up being you know, like the pressure gets to him and he takes sacks and it's Russ. But I mean, their defense defense has always been incredible if anybody makes the moment too big it could be Ross. Yeah, that's it
Starting point is 00:26:30 That's the only hiccup everything else and obviously they need George Pickens back because their offense is so much more fun with him Fun for us, although Tomlin was like pretty feisty after the game He's like I've been telling you guys that this offense is good even without Pickens. I mean Mike Williams got going Yeah, he made a sick catch. OK. Next up, we have Eagles 22, Panthers 16. Survive and advance. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:53 The Eagles survive and advance. Almost lost the game. Xavier LeGette dropped the winning touchdown catch. Bryce Young outplayed Jalen Hurts. That's what people are saying. The Eagles kind of played down to their competition. Yeah, the Eagles should have, it felt like they should have won by more just because Saquon was like every time they handed him the ball, he would rip off 10 yards. But they
Starting point is 00:27:15 were trying to get the passing offense going. And now we have AJ Brown saying he was asked afterward what the issue is. He said the passing. Passing. He didn he said the passing passing he didn't say the passing game he'd say often say passing say the receiving he said passing he said the passing I I do want to just clarify some I said earlier about them playing down to their competition I actually don't think that's the case I think the Panthers might just be kind of okay no the Panthers last five games are win-win lost by three to the Chiefs division
Starting point is 00:27:44 leader lost by three to the Chiefs, division leader, lost by three to the Bucs, division leader, lost by six to the Eagles, division leader. The Panthers are playing great ball. They can play a one score game against anybody in the league. Yeah. No, that was an impressive performance from Bryce Young. I do think he is the quarterback of the future now for the Panthers, which is awesome because it looked like one in seven, it looked like everything was lost.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Now you not only have a quarterback, but you have a coach and Dave Canales who's, you know, coaching them up. They're not a great roster and he's staying with all these teams that are going to be playoff teams. So yeah, I'm, I'm a believer in this Panthers team going forward with Bryce Young, which is crazy to say, uh, but the Eagles, they're fine. Uh, there's another fine, but the passing, that A.J. Brown, you would rather not have A.J. Brown kind of call out Jalen Hurts. The passing and the kicking.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And the kicking. Jake Elliott has not made a 50 yard field goal this year. Kicking is a major, major problem right now. It's 0 for 5 on kicks over 50 yards. The panic button is officially. They were in a spot to kick a 57 yarder to make the game 6 to 9. Yeah, two score game. And they chose not to. a spot to kick like a 57 yarder to make the game six to nine. Yeah. Two score game.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And they chose not to. Last year, you make that decision a thousand times out of a thousand. It's automatic. Yeah. There was no question about it last year. Now it's like you can't trust them to do anything. So Max, you've been trying to line things up just perfectly going into next week. You've been thinking about the Steelers game for a while.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I would say that winning a close one that you could have lost at the end, pretty good way to head into the Steelers matchup. Yeah, I mean the Steelers game is big. It's more so big just because of the, like, the Barstool aspect of it though. Like, it's a big game, but like it's an AFC team. But you're trying to, you're trying to get the ones. You're trying to make it correct. Correct. But if like it's, it's, it's not, not as important as the, as the other three games going forward because it's an AFC game and the tiebreaker is every game should be important. Every game is important. The pain, this Panthers game was important. I said that this game was funky and I thought it was, it was going to be an NFL NFL makes no sense game. Yes, basically it was it was
Starting point is 00:29:46 I mean Xavier LeGette catches that ball. Although you were saying we're fine. We're fine. We're fine. Well, there was There's still 45 seconds in three timeouts, but so Jake Elliott Jake Elliott Yeah, Jake. So what are you concerned at all though about AJ Brown because that feels concerning but AJ Brown does that shit like Every other week like if he that not concerned I Guess but not really because that's just like kind of the way AJ is he doesn't We've talked about that with good receivers is that yeah, you want a little bit of yeah, you want that Jalen hurt He didn't catch a lot of balls I'm sure if he caught six balls in the end
Starting point is 00:30:22 It was the exact and it or if he caught the Devante Smith touchdown He doesn't say it the jail and hurts had a couple weird plays that one where he just slid For like a nine yard loss when he could have thrown it away that one was bizarre that looked like he got her It was like one of those plays were looked like he got hurt. Yeah, he does that from time to time He he like runs slowly at a diagonal and then just lays down It was that was weird and the other thing that would be concerning is the Eagles now 13 games 10 of them they've been shut out in the first quarter Is about how you finish not how you start starting fast though in the playoffs is very important
Starting point is 00:30:57 Not if you can finish strong, but if you get in a hole against the playoff team that could be a problem But if you can come back, that's true. You could come back But what if you get in a hole early and then. You can't come back. But that's what happens. That's what happens to the Eagles every game. But then you don't get the running game going against a good team. Would you rather. I mean that's what we've done. Would you rather start slow or start fast. I would rather start fast. Okay. And then finish fast. Okay. I'd find a choice between starting fast and finishing fast I would choose finishing fast. You like to finish fast. I would choose finishing fast you like to finish fast I love finish fast. Yeah, I think we all do
Starting point is 00:31:29 I'm gonna get out of finishing fast. It's actually one of my strengths one of the only ones ah The yeah AJ Brown. So here's a fun stat say Kwan Barkley. He's now 94 yards a game So four games left 94 yards a game away from 2000 he also has the Eagles record in rushing yards in a season passing Lashon McCoy and the craziest thing is that was Lane Johnson's rookie year so Lane Johnson has been part of both Lashon McCoy's previous record for Eagles season single season record and now Saquon Barkley single season record. Lane Johnson is the best. So this would be a good time just to
Starting point is 00:32:10 remind everybody OJ Simpson much better football player than human being through 14 games he had 2,003 yards. Wow. Pretty crazy season. Wow. Say what you want about the guy. Different league though. He could run with the football. He could run with the football. Did you? I heard you guys saying Guignanamo Bay, he wore the shirt today. Yeah. Oh, okay. I don't know if that was our shirt. No, I don't think it's our shirt. I don't think, do we make them? I have prints of them. Oh, you didn't make them. Oh No, was it Quintana mo bay? Yeah, it's Quintana mo ours are saying our same Queen. Yes, cuz yeah saying Quinnian Quinnian That's right. Yeah, that's right different prison. Yeah He's got that one
Starting point is 00:32:58 Why didn't you you gotta put him up? I? Think it was like a They didn't want to be associated with the prison but he's associated himself with the prison. No I'm saying like we didn't oh yeah but now that he did he did it yeah yeah maybe we but he's also kind of out of himself as being a Quinianimo Bay guy yeah no no we did we did put it up we did. St. Quinian is alive in the barstool store Hank you weren't here for it, but Max was getting very upset at me in PFT. Yes screaming at us
Starting point is 00:33:30 Well, they're either just true. You guys are just troll. I was just saying oh, no. Yeah, we said after every play Oh, there's a lot of oh knows you guys couldn't get off the field on third down. Oh, no Yeah, he was screaming at us It was with PFT and might have turned to each other being like, this would be in a boring early slate. This would be pretty good for the pod if they lost to the Panthers. It would have been. Especially after the Lions rant on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Max's Eagles won the game. Yeah. Good job, Max's Eagles. Sometimes you just gotta win a game. Bad producing, Max's Eagles. Do you know what's a crazy Saquon staff for you, Max? Saquon has 14 times this season gone down at the one or the two yard line and Then Jalen Hurts takes his touchdowns. It's bullshit
Starting point is 00:34:12 He he doesn't care. He's I care because I mean I had you switch from Tyrone Tracy, which I'm sorry But you also didn't come with conviction Tyrone Tracy did score. I understand. I said sorry That's why I said sorry, but you also didn't come with conviction I wasn't sure if you were apologizing to me or if you're no apologize to the AWM Yeah, they did feel like there was I think there was one play on the two-yard line where instead of doing the tush push They tried to hand it to say quantity didn't get it and he didn't get it They were trying to get it was yeah, you were right. You were right about that, but it didn't work out But yeah, yeah, so the great guy. I still think he had like 124 yards rushing yeah he's a beast he's an absolute beast so he has the Eagles
Starting point is 00:34:49 single season record right now huh? Yes. I think he passed Shady. I think Shady what would Shady have what? Yeah that's what I said. Okay yeah. Oh yeah Lashon McCoy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah. Lane Johnson was the rookie for Lashon McCoy. The Panthers who do the Panthers played. They're going to pick someone off. They're so fucking close. They're so close. They're actually a fun team to watch. I don't know if they play anyone. No. Maybe the oh I guess the Panthers could decide the Bucks or the Falcons. They play them in the last two weeks of the season. That's going to be interesting. They could they could beat one of those two teams because you're going to have Falcons fans then probably rooting for the Saints in the last game of
Starting point is 00:35:29 the season. Because the Saints are playing the Bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. This league. Yeah. Tangled web. Okay. Well, let's go to the NFC South. Bucks 28, Raiders 13. This is a weird game because I feel like the Bucks should have won this game by a lot more. They were up 14-0. It looked like they were cruising and then they just let the Raiders hang around, hang around, hang around and they needed some Aiden O'Connell, some Desmond Ritter. Yes, we're on to Desmond Ritter. So Aiden O'Connell, he got injured. I think he got shoved from behind by Levante David. I couldn't see where he hurt himself but apparently he got
Starting point is 00:36:04 carted off in an aircast. It was bad. Yes. It was a bad injury. Yes. So now Raiders, you have to be, you have to watch Desmond Ritter every Sunday or, uh, the guy who they're going to bring up as the backup is going to be Carter Bradley, Gus Bradley's son. Oh, how about that? Isn't that crazy? That's, I guess that's former Toledo and I can't remember where else Southern Miss maybe quarterback But yeah Carter Bradley. I need to see Carter Bradley. Sure. Yeah. I mean the Raiders starting Gardner Minshew Desmond Ritter Aiden O'Connell and Carter Bradley in one season just might as well go all the way. You couldn't really plan it out that poorly
Starting point is 00:36:42 I don't think. No, the Raiders do have the number one pick though right now and Chitter Sanders did tweet. Thank you. God after the game was over. Yeah We say I need to be all DM me But if they have beat the Chiefs because their strength the schedule they'd be like the eighth pick. Oh really? Oh wow So they were lucky to not win that game. Yeah, it could change the the course their franchise Yeah, because if you look at Tankathon right now, which I am, the Las Vegas Raiders picking first, Giants picking second. Both need QBs.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Both need QBs. And the New England Patriots picking third. Yeah, that was Mack Jones helping you out. Yeah. Mack Jones got a win. He helped the Patriots go to third. Brock Bauer's got the tight end record, rookie tight end record for receptions 87. Uh, but yeah, I, I didn't you guys think the same thing where it was like, I don't know
Starting point is 00:37:29 what it is about the bucks. I think they're good. They have moments where they're good. And then they have moments where it feels like an entire quarter goes by where Baker Mayfield gets like 15, uh, screens or short passes blocked at the line of scrimmage. Yeah. So yeah, they're, they're not super consistent and they can run the ball. I think not having Bucky for most of the game was a pretty big problem too. So people are big mad about Bucky.
Starting point is 00:37:53 But then Rashad White had a really good shot. White had a great game. People are big mad about Bucky. Why? Fantasy players are really mad about Bucky. This is yeah, because he was he was like kind of Willie or won't he all week? And then they said he's going to play on Sunday And then after like a quarter and a half, they just took him out for precautionary reasons
Starting point is 00:38:09 They said and he didn't go back in the game. This is right. He played. Yeah, this is big-time Like fantasy owners scorned season. Yeah, it's like it gets really really testy if a guy doesn't play or has a bad game Because we're in the playoffs or we're about to be in the playoffs. Yeah, there will be. I'm going to go Mike Flory here. There will be lawyers that try to sue teams. Yes. The NFL. Yes. For potential damages done to your fantasy team. Yeah, I do think the Bucks are going to win the NFC South. We've been saying that for a while now. I just don't know. I don't if they play the Vikings in the first round. I like the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah. Yeah. And I love Baker. I think he's banged up and he also just, yeah, it just seems like there will be times where they their offense kind of falls asleep. They should have when this game started, I was convinced that they were going to just run over the Raiders because it felt like the Raiders had the quit factor. And then it was legitimate.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Like it was a legitimate game up until the fourth quarter. Yeah. And it is cool seeing Scott Turner, nor turn up in the booth. Yeah. Hell yeah. The big issue is their dogs getting along. That's what we learned the anecdote that they told us on the broadcast. So he moved in with Scott. So yes. So norven his wife, I guess Scott's mom moved into their house and everyone's getting along except the dogs. Yeah. I want to know what kind of dogs they are that can happen from time to time to me if I'm just guessing based on Just coach vibes. I bet they've got small dogs. Yeah, I think they've got two maybe even the same type of dog
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, like too small. They each have Yorkies or pugs Yeah, and they don't they look a lot alike, but they hate each other and they call them brothers Yeah, and they don't like each other. Mm-hmm. Your brothers and your brother ate his dinner Yeah, your brother's gonna eat your dinner if you don't they look a lot alike, but they hate each other and they call them brothers Yeah, and they don't like each other. Mm-hmm your brothers and your brother ate his dinner Yeah, your brother's gonna eat your dinner if you don't get in here. Oh, no, don't do that to your brother I have nothing else on this game since Sam or Cormac. I guess actually cool name He's and he's good for the rate. The Raiders are on their fourth third and fourth running backs Yeah, and trying to make the whole thing out of and their third Now their third quarterback. So Scott Turner just even getting them to score a point. That's
Starting point is 00:40:11 your win. Probably be coordinator of the year. That's a massive if I had a vote for coordinator of the year, he would win coordinator of the year. If you're a Raiders fan, you just you want to get to this offseason because you don't know what the hell your franchise is going to do. Yeah, like things are about to get weird in Las Vegas. Oh, I do have one other thing, Antonio Pierce, which shouldn't shock you. Uh, one of the dumbest challenges of all time that I think it was, can you find it? I think it was Jacobi Myers, maybe on the sideline where he, I don't even know if he got one foot in barely got one foot in barely got one foot in the second foot was like so far out of bounds. was past the white like where the chalk ended.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Like Antonio Pierce should be a bad challenge guy. Like just by vibes he's just not going to be a good challenge guy. He's a rage challenger. Yeah he's a rage challenger who's just not going to win a lot of challenges and like a football guy challenger. See if you can do Antonio Pierce challenge. It was so bad. I'm looking, I just looked up Antonio Pierce challenge on Google and there's four different things that are written about four separate weeks of questionable Antonio Pierce challenge. Yeah, here it is. Look at this. Yeah, I remember seeing that. He touched his his right foot out of bounds before he got barely got one toe in that I don't even think you got to I don't even think you got one foot in. I don't think he did. It's one of the worst.
Starting point is 00:41:26 He was coaching college. Yeah. For a long time. That was, but even in college, that's not a catch. I know. Cause he stepped out of bounds before he even got maybe a little bit of a toe in college. I would say that's a terrible challenge. Yeah. I just like that. I like being able to like rely on my gut instincts with some of these things And and if you had asked me with no data backing it up, like is Antonio Pierce good at challenge? I'd be like fuck no. Yeah, I wonder what he'll do want to try to change the momentum I wonder what the Raiders system is for challenging these calls. It might just be until Antonio Pierce on the sidelines Yeah, like he's listening to the radio call of the game. He's just doing it
Starting point is 00:42:03 He's just he's basically just a gambler where he's like, please, maybe this will hit might be Mark Davis up in the booth. That was no different than doing a 15 team parlay. No challenging that play. There's zero percent that was hoping that the refs would make a historic mistake. Yeah, the refs will be like, you know what, fuck it. Yeah, we feel bad for how your season's going. Okay, before we get to the other three games. Let's do a couple going. Okay, before we get to the other three games, let's do
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Starting point is 00:44:00 Get your tickets now at Daytona five hundred dot com. OK, here's a game that I can't say that I watched a great time. Get your tickets now at Daytona500.com. OK. Here's a game that I can't say that I watched a lot of. Saints, 14, Giants, 11. I saw some of it. I saw Drew Locke running. I saw Drew Locke running directly into two defenders when he could have run for a first down.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And then I saw him running for like 25 yards, which was kind of nice. Yeah, that was a nice run. I also saw the stat that he was 0 for 8 in the first quarter. I saw Darren Rizzi almost knock out his punter. That was awesome. On the sideline. So Darren Rizzi, former special teams guy.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah. I guess once a special teams guy always obsessed with special teams. I'm going to guess he's going to continue being a special teams guy after this season. He was so, so mad at his punter. It looked for a second like he was going to punch him. Yes. Alvin Camaro had to get in between them, separate them, be like, dude, you can't yell like that at a punter. He's not a football player. Like you can't, you're going to break your punter down. The punter to his credit did a pretty good job of being like, yes, sir. Yes, coach. Yes, coach.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Please don't hurt me, sir. And then after the game, Rizzi said to the media, he was like, yeah, I think we're, I think we're cool now though. Like he took what I said and you know, he's a football player, so he's going to respond well to it. I don't know if the punter is cool with it. If the punter is as much just like thankful he didn't get his ass kicked on the sidelines. Yeah. His life flashed before his eyes, but, but they're cool. They're cool with it. Um, one thing that I thought was interesting was Derek Carr. So he got injured in the game. Yeah. He, uh, credit to Derek Carr. The season's kind of like gone down the tubes a little bit. He's scrambling for a first down He goes full airborne. Mm-hmm jumping to try to get a first sound over like three guys lands on his left wrist
Starting point is 00:45:36 Does something to it breaks it? Yeah, and then after the game or even as it was happening I saw a lot of Saints fans being like Derek Carr is a fucking moron for trying to go Superman in This lost cause of a season, but I think like great for Derek Carr. Yeah, he's bawling out. He's got pride Yeah, you want to still have pride. Yeah, like I get it. I get it. It's kind of a meaningless game No one's gonna look back on this this game against the Giants and be like it was 1411 in the fourth quarter and Derek Carr went super cyan against him. No one's gonna think about that, but Derek Carr does. But you also gotta remember Derek Carr's still probably gonna play. He's like last year he played with an entire broken back.
Starting point is 00:46:13 The difference is he might need surgery. And so he might still play. You think he's gonna delay his surgery? I mean, did you remember last year when we just begging for Jameis and Derek Carr was like in a walker? Yeah. And he couldn't and he just kept on going out there? He's crazy like that. He is. Do you remember last year when we just begging for Jamis and Derek Carr was like in a walker? Yeah. And he couldn't and he just kept on going out there.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He's crazy like that. He is. So that might be Spencer Rattler for you. It might be. Or Jacob Hayner. Listen, you play who you play. You play who you play. We also had at the game, there was a plane over MetLife Stadium that said it had a message
Starting point is 00:46:42 attached to it said, Mr. Mara, enough, please fix this dumpster fire. I like that they referred to it said Mr. Mara, Mara enough. Please fix this dumpster fire. I like that they referred to him as Mr. Mara. Yeah, very classy. Yeah. Wanted to keep it classy. Yeah. Yeah. Not a scumbag. You know, you're not a scumbag, Mr. Mara. You're just Mr. Mara. And then they both saw the banner. Yeah. And so did Malik neighbors. He was asked about it. He said, I am paid for that plane. Yeah. So that's so there we got we got one person we could scratch off the list What did did table say anything about it? He basically said I'm trying to fix it, too Yeah, table looked like he was gonna cry after Graham. You know got his block or kick blocked at the end of the game Yeah, that was tough, but that this that actually might be like a Darren Rizzi specialty
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah, because it's done it twice teams against the Saints since Darren Rizzi have taken over I think they're now one for seven on field goals Wow field goal defense. He's got great field goal defense field goal defense Yeah, he the the block kick that was almost identical to the one they did like I think was week 10 So yeah, he's still a special teams coach and we also had a funny moment where there was a tweet that was saying that Malik neighbors screamed during a play. You're all calling plays like I ain't out here. And then Tyron Matthew corrected it in Community Notes and he was like, that was actually me. So he was just taunting Drew Locke in the Giants office.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yeah, it's bad, but for a different reason. Yeah, right, for a totally different reason, but also still bad. Kind of the same amount of bad. Yeah, right. Exactly. Maybe worse. This is a bummer of a game. Maybe worse. Cause if it was Malik neighbors that said that you could put that in the A.J. Brown pile where you're like, yeah, you know, great receivers sometimes have that attitude about them. Yeah. When it's your opponent's old safety saying that screaming it out loud, then that's just
Starting point is 00:48:23 kind of like the whole thing is fucked up. Yeah, and I kind of like that the Giants are I talked about it last week with Thanksgiving how the Giants and the Bears are very similar in their situations right now They're kind of just following the Bears path now with getting a kick blocked at the end of the game to lose a game And it's just playing really sad football that is tough to watch starting 0 for 8 This is a tough game to go to it was a tough game to go to A tough game to watch shout out that guy who got the plane. I wonder how much that cost It should have been a firefighting plane. Yeah, I'm trying to put out the dumpster fire. Yeah, mr. Mara, please Please stop this dumpster fire. There's nothing he can do. No, he's tried just get Eli back. He's just bad at his job
Starting point is 00:49:03 Okay, anything else from this game? I don't know. I mean, it was a bummer. It was a good, it was a good result for the Giants. Yeah, I Giants fans should absolutely be rooting. They're not going to win another game, right? Cause here's the thing. If you're a Giants fan, if you draft a good quarterback, things can all change very quickly for you. And you can at least hope that things are gonna change. Because with the whole Daniel Jones thing, it was like an escalating, snowballing series of bad decisions that were all kind of based on the fact that you did not know if you had a good quarterback
Starting point is 00:49:35 when you didn't. So if you get a good quarterback, then you can put all that decision, all that brain energy goes somewhere else. Yeah, Brian Dabble's real fault was he coached the hell out of Daniel Jones for that one year. Yeah. He shouldn't have done that. No, that go back in time. He should have just coached a little bit less. And and maybe made it so that Daniel Jones
Starting point is 00:49:55 failed a little bit more. And everything would be then you'd be like, go get me a quarterback. Yeah, go get me a quarterback. I need a quarterback. Aaron Rodgers next year. Aaron Rodgers next year, although Aaron Rodgers might stick around there's a report the Jets are gonna maybe draft a quarterback and Aaron Rodgers can he can take him under his tutelage. Make his life heaven? Yeah. Yeah. That actually if you draft a quarterback memes Aaron Rodgers would be good again. Who reported that? Yeah so I just saw the look on memes face and he did the real life meme of Donald Trump I'm just hearing about this now. All right Jets. You tell me for the first time. Who reported that? Yeah, so I just saw the look on Memes' face, and he did the real life meme of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I'm just hearing about this now. All right, Jets. You tell me for the first time. Memes, by the way, I loved your boomer today. My favorite part was that your throat started to get scratchy from doing the voice. I actually didn't know that you were doing the voice. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Hank agrees. Do your boomer voice. I thought you were just doing your regular voice. That's scary, man. This is from some place called U Stadium. Oh, all right. They're troll? No, they're good.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Jets are likely to draft a quarterback. Oh no, Rapport reported it. Jets are likely to draft a quarterback in round one of the NFL draft regardless if Aaron Rodgers is on the roster. I love that Max went to Rossini's Twitter page to try to find out where this is coming from. This would be where I go for my Jets news. Yeah, she does a good job. Listen, let's do this game. Dolphins 32, Jets 26. Memes, this would be a good thing because Aaron Rodgers has shown that if you put competition, young competition around him, he's going to play great. They drafted Jordan Love and he
Starting point is 00:51:27 he ripped off some great years. I agree with you I just don't think there is a quarterback because right now we're at seven. Mm-hmm. I think it's very thin at the top. Drew, Drew Aller? Yeah you could get him in the probably second round. No buddy did you watch that? Did you see that fourth down throw against Oregon? You still get him in the second round Not after that fourth down throw against Oregon. Have you guys ever drafted a Penn State quarterback? one yeah, thanks one time I Some something I say about the Jets memes
Starting point is 00:52:01 It is Izzy season But it's a different Izzy Who was Isaiah Davis? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's a stud.. It is Izzy season, but it's a different Izzy. Who was it? Isaiah Davis. Yeah. Oh, he's a stud. Is he also Izzy? Isaiah? No, you can't, you can't replace Izzy. I don't know. I like this case. He's got a little woodhead in him. No, he's good. He's a South Dakota Jackra. Yeah. He scored a touchdown and then went off for like two seconds and went right back on to kick unit Yeah, no, that is a football guy the lasting Effective Joe Douglas Oluf a John who Isaiah Davis Brown Allen all studs. Yeah So this game means you kind of got exactly what you wanted out of this game
Starting point is 00:52:40 Aaron Rodgers looks good for the first time in forever. He threw for over 300 yards for the first time in forever Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams were putting up big-time yards and he lost the game. Yeah, it was a perfect loss Aaron Rodgers also kind of lost in this game. Why? Miss guys know the well that and the third down Yeah, he threw it to the sideline when he could have checked to a run or throw it to the middle of field. Dolphins get it back like 15-20 seconds. Tavante Adams was out of bounds. That long pass that he threw where was that was that Adam? No that was I think it was Garrett Wilson. That was Garrett Wilson right? On the sideline? Yeah through that bomb to him. Yep. And he had all the
Starting point is 00:53:21 room to throw that ball inbounds. Yeah and he just missed them, but he had a good game today overall. He did he played well overall exactly We talked about on Friday. You wanted him to look like he could still play quarterback I thought he could still play quarterback after watching today. Yeah today today felt like a good game That might have been his best game as a jet The Patriots we three okay That one that one that one was the best. That's the best Yeah, that was the best the Dolphins are still alive by the way, which is crazy They need a lot of help
Starting point is 00:53:52 But they did save their season today by winning in overtime Tua is going for the record for completion percentages All time he's at seventy four point five percent. I did not know that drew Brees record was seventy four point four percent So better not have any incompletions to let's go to a good for two to it did the thing and I know you probably Know it means from watching the game where it's so frustrating because to a He felt like he never got touched today He had all the time in the world to throw. And he'll throw like, not a lollipop, but like a looper, and then it will just be perfectly placed like Tyre Kill coming out of a cut. Like the exact, the exact, the two, the touchdown, two point conversion, and then the touchdown
Starting point is 00:54:35 and overtime were all that throw. Yeah, it was, it was all the same play. Yeah. It almost seemed like the Dolphins were kind of fucking around at one point. Yeah, they were spamming a play. They did a no look pass at one point. It almost felt like they thought they had a kind of fucking around at one point. Yeah, they were spamming a play They did a no-look pass at one point It almost felt like they thought they had a three touchdown lead, but I don't know the Dolphins are playing weird So do you want Rogers stick around if you draft a quarterback?
Starting point is 00:54:54 If we draft a quarterback, I say yes a lot of Jets fans don't want him But he'll be good if you draft a quarterback He needs a little bit of that spark, a little bit of fire. Get a younger dog. Keep the dog going. Based on the contract, I think you have to restructure and keep him. OK.
Starting point is 00:55:11 That's just my opinion. Because if you cut him before then, there's just so much dead cap. Yeah, and you also want to keep Devonte Adams. Yeah, every time we got a ball, I was just like, this guy's so good. Right. And so you need to keep Aaron Rodgers. Memes, I have a bad stat for you.
Starting point is 00:55:27 This was you guys were officially eliminated from playoff contention. 14 years, longest playoff drought in the NFL. Yeah, would you like to say anything? It's not the longest playoff drought in all sports. And NBA. All the sports. All the sports. All the sports. And MLB. All the sports.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And NHL. All the sports. And WNBA, Per Adam Schefter. It's also the longest in MLS, but Schefter didn't mention that. He said WNBA, not MLS. But it's misleading, because hockey has the Sabres. Yeah. I think this would be 14 years for them if they don't make the playoffs this year. Right. That's a long
Starting point is 00:56:09 time. Also, it's been 15 years since Tottenham won a trophy. Yeah. That that's soccer. Yeah, soccer. I don't want to say anything bad. I could we were we're of the age where we could can we could easily have the Jets playoff trial could easily be our child. If I had a 14 year old kid it wouldn't be weird. Yeah, and there's no end in sight. None.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Well, Aaron coming back, Isaiah Davis. Is anything going well for you right now? Breaking news memes. Yeah, breaking news. Geez, They were setting you up for the breaking news. I was going to do it during PFT's. Who's back. Oh, OK. All right. Well, you want to know what you're doing. Yeah. Breaking moves. Juan Soto signs. I wanted to hear memes. Yeah. Go ahead. Moo. Breaking moves. Yeah. Breaking moves. Juan Soto signs with the New York Mets 15 years 765 million holy shit. What was our debate? I think said over 700
Starting point is 00:57:16 I think I said 750 or 700. I said I didn't think he was gonna get 600. Yeah, we so you were wrong yet again That's awesome memes. Yeah, it's nice to get a win Yeah, just having how did you not take that win when we were talking about the Jets playoff drought? Like that was exactly so we started the podcast and we saw the news and we're like, hey memes You can pick when you want to do breaking moves for this. You just had the spot right there You just interrupt PFTs who's back when he doesn't do it with whatever yeah that insult set that you brought up to me earlier today Those are great stuff. It was a good set. How uh so thoughts on Juan Soto
Starting point is 00:57:53 I'm not the biggest baseball guy, but he's the best your new yorks back for right now Okay, and you beat the Yankees. That's really all yeah, the Yankees fans are so upset. That's the wind It's yeah, they're going on there like how could he turn down the Yankees. That's really all the Yankees fans are so upset. That's the wind Yeah, they're going on they're like how could he turn down the Yankee? Yeah to go to the Mets does he not know about our history on the Yankees yet He doesn't give a shit about history. He likes the money. Yeah, a lot of baseball fans are mad about this Yeah, no, this is good. You got you got one over on the Yankees. Are you mad max because he's in the division Yeah, no, it's not good for us. They were already better than us. How do you? Yeah. How do you think our French here? Carabas is doing probably not well. Not well. Yeah. I mean my reporting's on the hot seat. I on this on these very air
Starting point is 00:58:32 waves. I said he was going to be Red Sox. I was misled, but I think for Red Sox fans, it's much, much better that he's on the Mets and the Yankees. Like that. That is a little victory in its own right. Yeah. I mean the Yankees fans are this is it is so much money and the Yankees. Oh wait Yankees bid 760 million for 16 years. Oh should have done 16 should have done 15 That's awesome. I like to think Steve Cohen just he was just sitting in a chair and and Scott Boris would like walk back into his room once every like five minutes be like Yankee say that they're doing a 725. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Just give a 726. No deferred money either. Wow. I mean, shout out to Steve Cohen for putting his money where his mouth is. He said he was going to do this and he did it. Yeah. I feel like Mets fans, you can't complain about Steve Cohen. No.
Starting point is 00:59:23 No. At all. Like you've lost, that's not an option for you now Yeah, I think people did for a second, but now now the things are going good. Yeah, the guy I also think that this is what we said when we talked about this the first time too He literally it I think it was just a dollar sign. Yeah, like he put zero emotion in or anything into it Yeah, like he put zero emotion in or anything into it The Mets said 765 the Yankees said 760 765 is higher than 760. So he took 760 Well, it also the Yankees and the year 16 years. I the thing I don't understand and it drives me nuts I wish the Cubs weren't cheap. They're a fucking huge market team and they they pretend that they're poor
Starting point is 01:00:02 I don't understand why a team in this situation doesn't, isn't like, Hey, Juan Soto, how about a 300 million for three years? Like you get a hundred million dollars a year and then you're a free agent again because they want the long term. I know he wants the long term, but like that would, if you get paid a hundred million dollars a year and just be like, you get, you get another contract that's probably gonna be even more like you, if if he signed a three-year hunt 300 million dollar contract barring obviously like a catastrophic injury He would end up making more money than the 765 bar barring an injury
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah, or barring, you know, just the career falling off, but just being like hey, here's here's a hundred fifty million dollars a year I think somebody's saying do you want guaranteed? 765 million dollars is pretty good. I don't know if someone someone like, hey, $400 million for three years and you get to dip again. Do you think Juan Soto as an outfielder, do you think he was a little bit scared off from the Yankees by the Copa Bianco brothers? Probably. That are lurking out there in right field.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Probably. Now he's, yeah, when he comes back to New York. Yeah, they're gonna- Real New York. The Bronx. They're gonna have someone to say to them. They're gonna get them. Also, if you're if you're an investor, wouldn't you want to have the money up front? Like if you did three years $300 million, you probably make more money if you invest if you invest it correctly. Yeah, yeah. I mean, 15 years from now, he's gonna get paid what? Well, how many how many how many million a year is that? I can't do
Starting point is 01:01:23 math. I think it's also nice to just know for 50 million a year for 10 years be like, okay This is gonna be my home for 10 years. Yeah, so I don't have to move in three years. He likes money Yeah, it would be sick to do that. If scott boris represents your best player Just prepare yourself to either get bent over a barrel or to say goodbye to that player Yeah I mean he was a true unicorn in the fact that his age and how good he is And became a free agent like that doesn't happen very often. Yeah, that's fans. a true unicorn in the fact that his age and how good he is and became a free agent Like that doesn't happen very often. Yeah, that's fans. I envy Mets fans
Starting point is 01:01:49 He's he's the funnest player to root for in the non Kyle Schwaber division. Yeah, he's so fun to root for Okay longest drought in all sports jets Yeah, it doesn't matter they asked Aaron about that afterwards he goes. Well, I've only been here for one of those seasons. Oh, well, actually two seasons. Two seasons. It doesn't matter, though. What do you mean? Only one team gets the win every year. And if you're not the team that's going to win. I would say getting to the playoffs definitely matters. I would like to go to the playoffs. Does it? What? What? Playoff win since 2010. Jets, two. Bears, one.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I know. It means nothing. I know. I want to be in the playoffs. I know, but if you don't win in the playoffs, it means nothing. But you can't win in the playoffs if you don't get in the playoffs. It doesn't matter. When we're going to get there, we're going to go on a run.
Starting point is 01:02:36 We just haven't got there yet. But getting in the playoffs matters. You can't win unless you're in the playoffs. But if you get to the playoffs and you don't win, you don't win in the playoffs. Well, no shit. Means you've been doing the playoff picture but if you get to the playoff you don't win you don't know shit Means you've been doing the playoff picture you've been doing the playoff percentages every I have a 14 years but corrects, but now you're saying it doesn't matter to me Yeah, it's mad because you could go on a run, but if you're not going on a run It doesn't know me. Oh, you're just you're discounting that entire week where you get to look at the bracket and you get your game
Starting point is 01:03:02 time and you plan ahead and you make it like the biggest deal ever because you're playing in a playoff game and it means a lot and you get that week of what if. Yeah, but you lose. But means you still getting into the playoffs is the only way to win a playoff game. That's true. Just let me cope. Yeah, you can cope. You can cope, but I'm just I'm trying to explain that like you do want to get
Starting point is 01:03:25 Into the play. I know we just can't I agree winning the playoff game is very important, but the first step is getting in Is it crazy if you like ask Jets fan after this back-to-back AFC championships? Yeah, going there congrats on making the playoffs max. Yeah, man. You you clinched. How does it feel as someone who's clinched the playoffs? How does it feel? I honestly don't care about making the playoffs. I care about winning in the playoffs. Yeah. But you can't, is it true that you can't win a playoff game unless you make it?
Starting point is 01:03:54 Correct, but Eagles make it all the time. Yeah, that's true. Would you rather not make the playoffs? No, I'm happy that we made the playoffs. But I'm more excited to go to go on a run It's first time you ever said that Wow What are the you got the website pulled up right now, what are the commies person at? 79
Starting point is 01:04:17 Rams are a little scary Rams are definitely scared. They're a lot of scary Rams are scary Rams are scary. Ah Alright so congrats on Juan Soto congrats. I'm not making the playoffs because you don't care I've actually been a great 14 years for you 14 years Super Bowl drought You thought you did something with the two playoff wins I know the Bears suck, but I still would if you asked me could we Getting into the playoffs or not getting in the playoffs. I'd much rather get in the playoffs I would much rather get in the playoffs, but I would rather go on a run in the pool
Starting point is 01:04:52 No, yeah, but you can't go on a run in the playoffs unless you're in the play I know and if you get if you get one playoff win And that's all you have to hang your hat on Then that's still you look back on that moment be like that was cool when you beat the bucks 17, 10 in 2006. That's true. But I'm a loser. And so this is one of the things I do to cope as a loser. So I'm not going to judge you for coping. Wait, our playoff win also came in the same year. Our last playoff win. Did it not? Who? 2010 when you guys went to the AFC championship? I get my ears mixed up. The Bears went to the NFC championship, lost to the Packers. I don't know if that's
Starting point is 01:05:32 11. I can never. Let me see. I wish the seasons would all be in one calendar. Yeah. The, the calendar. It always fucks me up. When the NFL league year starts. Right. March. Cause it's always like, well, what playoffs is it that year the season was played here Yeah, we beat yeah, and then we lost and that was Jay Cutler getting hurt damn. We could have played each Oh, yeah, you guys we could have played we were this close to playing in the Super Bowl But not really you guys lost on the same day. Yeah, so sweet. Oh, well I should count as a playoff win I agree because you I Get you get to this you got to the same amount of although that just you just added like a hundred playoff wins to Tom Brady's record as you should wait which oh that was so long ago the bears so long the Bears lost earlier in the game
Starting point is 01:06:16 yeah we played we played we played the early game because it was like zero degrees and it was very bright out but memes you also beat the Patriots January 16th at 430 p.m The Bears beat the Seahawks at 1 o'clock. Yeah, we had the early so you have a more recent Yeah, I'll figure out the Bears do congrats. Congrats huge. Thank you. That's huge Okay, last game from the early slate Jaguars 10 Titans 6 be honest. How much of this game? Did you watch? I was I I said and six. Be honest, how much of this game did you watch? I was, I said, uh, oh is the Jaguars Titans game over? And someone who was close to that TV said, yeah dude, it's been over for like 20 minutes. I think they played this game in like two hours, two and
Starting point is 01:06:55 a half hours. They might've played this game on Thursday night and then taped it and then just broadcast it today. I just saw the only, the only notable things I saw was Mack Jones is back to doing the spin to nowhere. He spun to nowhere and then threw a pick. Mac Jones did help Hank and the Patriots. And Doug Peterson maybe didn't lose the locker room because they won a game. Yeah, I don't know. My status on this game was I asked, I would check in periodically to see if Mac Jones
Starting point is 01:07:21 had thrown an interception yet. Because I bet on him to throw an interception. Once I heard that that he did I was like, okay cool. He's accomplished today. Yeah, so yeah Ironically, the Jags can't even tank correctly because Bigsby won the game for them. Yes, the match Oh, this is actually pretty good in the second half Also, here's a fun thing. So I know we said we weren't going to talk about the Jags anymore Except for how it pertains to their draft order, which I now think they're fourth. They are fifth.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Fifth. And the Titans by losing. Yeah, they the Jaguars are fifth. The Titans are sixth. Yeah, because the Jaguars, the Titans already had three wins. The Jaguars had two. Here's a fun thing that we can watch for the Titans. So this is a Titans stat, which if it happens, I would have to imagine is a record.
Starting point is 01:08:08 So let's just assume Doug Peterson gets fired. Is that a fair assumption? Yeah. Okay. So it's a fair assumption. If the Titans lose the Jaguars in their rematch, I believe in week 18, the Titans will have lost to four teams that fired their coach this season. They lost to Mattie Berfluse, they lost to Robert Sala, and they lost to Doug Peterson.
Starting point is 01:08:31 And if by chance the Bengals fire Zach Taylor, they could potentially go 0-5 against teams that fire their head coach. That's pretty impressive. Which would be, I think that has to be a record. That's very impressive. That would be a cool record to watch. It's kind of insulting because teams get fired if it's like, you can't even beat this team. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Or coaches get fired if they're like, you can't even beat the Titans. Are the Titans lost to those teams? Titans lost to those teams. That's crazy. The Titans could potentially go 0 and 5 against teams that fire their head coach this season. Doug Peterson, Robert Sala, Matt Eberfluss and
Starting point is 01:09:05 Doug Peterson again and possibly Zach Taylor, who I don't think they're going to fire him, but it's they play the Bengals I think next week. That's a hell of a set. That would be a bummer of a stat. This game suck though. 10 to 6. 10 to 6. It was the perfect game. It was exactly what you thought this game would be. The NFL makes sense. Brian Thomas is good. That's cool. Jaguars fans. He's really good. He's going for the record of most 75 yard games for a rookie. So he has eight. The record
Starting point is 01:09:32 is 10. It has four games left. So he goes two more games over 75 yards in that game. He'd have the record. Will Levis did not throw an interception today, right? No, but he did miss a wide open throw in the end zone. I don't know if you guys saw that. Can you find that clip? Did you guys see this play? It was not good. He basically threw it over the guy who was running on the back line and there was a guy right in front of him who was essentially standing wide open. I think Rassillo tweeted the clip. But yeah, it didn't look good. This game was not good.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And I know we say it all the time where we're like, hey, what's the, like, this is a game that we would kill for? I don't know if I'd kill for this game in April. I would. Look at that. Look at the guy underneath. He is he could not be more open. Ah, it looks like the Titans are two defenders and the Jaguars guys the wide receiver. Yeah. Yeah. Great. In which case, Titans out that
Starting point is 01:10:38 would have been a great pass. Yeah, the Titans kept on going to the red zone and not getting anything. Which that's kind of what they do. Tony Pollard still good though. Yeah, the Titans just kept on going to the red zone and not getting anything Which that's kind of what they do Tony Pollard still good though. Yeah, Tony Pollard's still good. Tank Bigs be good Mm-hmm Doug Peterson hasn't lost the locker room Maybe Mac Jones still bad When was the last time a coach got fired in season after a win? No Roberts law didn't get one Because it has to happen at some point for Peterson, right?
Starting point is 01:11:04 They might have just told him it by now like you're gonna coach the rest of the season Yeah, they're like this is it's too much for paying the ass. We got to do a press conference We gotta do the whole thing Before Christmas might also just like not have an interim on staff that they find, you know, it was able to do it Yeah, yeah, they're just like hey just just finish this season and do is a solid Doug We're gonna pay you. Just kind of keep showing up. Yeah, maybe win one game.
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Starting point is 01:14:12 Jake was like finally justice for two fingers. Yeah. Kind of cool for him. Huge walk off score. Gummy. Very cool. You must have loved that means big moment. This is also the first time I'm hearing that. Yeah. He said he said justice justice for two fingers. Okay. Niners 38 Bears 13. That game sucked. The Bears are a joke. They're so bad. They they they got Iber flu's fired which I was totally on board with. You'd think there would be pride. You'd think that there'd be an interim head coach bump. Nope, same garbage team, same garbage start. There was a moment where it was 310 yards to two,
Starting point is 01:14:55 and then a half it was 319 yards to four yards. I just need this season to end. So I just need it to be done. I can't do it anymore. It's fucking up my mood too much. Just get the Bears out of my face and we'll revisit it come draft. So the halftime 319 to 4 319 by the 49ers that's the most in the NFL this year. Yeah. Four by the Bears is the least in the NFL. Yeah. This year. As a matter of fact, since 2015. Yeah, no, they were so bad.
Starting point is 01:15:26 And you'd think that with a fired coach, you'd think they'd come out with a purpose. Yeah. No, not even close. No purpose. The silver linings in this is that we can, oh my God, the Chiefs just doinked one in. Fuck, fuck.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Unbelievable. The Chiefs keep doing it. They keep doing it. Oh She's just doing I took five field rules in this game. That was huge unbelievable. Ah So I Want this season to end so bad? It's so so bad The only silver linings is we can maybe get a real coach and there was a little bit of a murmuring of like Thomas Brown Could be the next coach. I don't know why he's on the sideline. I don't know why we we had three good games offensively
Starting point is 01:16:11 Relatively speaking and we took him from the booth down to the sideline Rome doons. They had a good game other than that. We are just a garbage garbage team garbage garbage organization Just end the season. I can't do it anymore. Oh, we we played Monday football next week good news is it's a shared Monday night slate so double header Monday night football so the eyes of the world won't be on you this is what I'm talking about when I when I was telling you about the Bears Thanksgiving week the Bears sometime in the second half they don't look as bad but everybody only watched the first half of Bears games because it's so depressingly awful yeah that're like, oh, this stinks.
Starting point is 01:16:45 So they don't even get your good stuff. No, it's, I mean, we weren't good in the second half. We were just better than how bad we were. The first drive was good. Yeah, but it took like 15 minutes. I know. The game was kind of over on that scoring drive. I just needed this season to end.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I'm just so, I'm out of energy. Like Max and Jackie tables were sitting there trolling me the whole game and it doesn't even hurt. Like, I can't, there's nothing, like it doesn't even, it doesn't, I don't even feel it, you know what I mean? Because it's just like, this team is so bad and this organization is so bad. And so lifeless and lost that I can't even, I can't even be hurt, I'm numb. They asked Kyle Shanahan after the game about the rumors that were spread by our good friend
Starting point is 01:17:28 Mike Florio regarding the potential coach trade. And he pretty much just poured cold water on him. He said no. And then there also was a report that Brock Purdy is going to sign an extension. So yeah, it was, and George Kittle was awesome. We decided like, hey, let's not guard George Kittle was awesome. We decided like, Hey, let's not guard George Kittle at all. Interesting strategy. I don't know. I mean, I'm done. They're in like the Jaguars pile of like, what does it even matter? Fire Thomas Brown. Yeah, Fire Thomas Brown. I it's just there's no point. Just get the season over with. Just get it over with. Like maybe beat
Starting point is 01:18:03 the Packers. That would be awesome. That is that's your season. But other than that, we're going to get killed by the Vikings on Monday football spin zone. At least you don't have to worry about them on Sunday. You can put, you can put all that off to Monday. Like you can enjoy an NFL sun. True, true. I wish we had another bot. I wish we could, they should really give an opt out for teams at this point of the season. Like you've had two out of the three last NFL Sundays Bareless. Yeah, this one though suck cuz the afternoon we always suck when we play in the afternoon Sunday night football Monday night football Thursday night football or the early sleep. That's when we suck But another spin zone that game was over so quickly everyone
Starting point is 01:18:47 What the game was over so quickly everyone got that. What the game was over so early everyone stopped watching. Yeah no one no one was even paying attention to that game after it's 14 nothing. Yeah that's just so bad. If you beat the Packers is a successful season. I hope they put a flag. Yeah. If we beat the Packers somehow get them out of the playoff which I don't think is possible. Yes that would be a successful season. That would be my Super Bowl. I'd raise a banner for that. But yeah, I wouldn't. The only thing that with my luck and the Bears luck, the Bears would beat the Packers and
Starting point is 01:19:17 then the Packers would slide down a spot and Jalen Hurts would get hit by a bus and then they would have a cake. You know what I mean? Like something the world would work in a way that the Bears beating the Packers actually helped the Packers get into the Super Bowl Jalen Hurts getting hit by a bus Yeah, I had I had that it could happen if the Bears beat the Packers I would make sure that Jalen Hurts does not cross any streets without looking both ways mmm just saying Why did you want to know about that he wants?
Starting point is 01:19:49 He wants those knows you want yeah cat brought that up. He wanted to know more What if would have like a piece of a stadium falls on him? That would be bad shame that he's probably gonna play in isn't in a falling stadium in a couple weeks bad No, they don't that same doesn't fall. I don't know if you know, they got a new owner now. Yeah, everything's changed. Go get your shine box, buddy. Yeah. Everything's changed.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Same stadium. You've been gone for a long time. Maybe you didn't know. Also, I don't think the 49ers are good. I just think the Bears are that bad. So I was wondering from the 49ers fans perspective, are you thinking like we might be good? It will all come down to Thursday Night Football. If they beat the Rams, then yes, I think the 49ers fans will allow themselves to
Starting point is 01:20:29 Be like, oh maybe something's here, but it's the same, you know, you guys were just in a super bowl That is a we might be good game This week against the Rams, but even this Bears game is like you can't really tell though against the Bears Everyone beats from there from there. I don't know how the Bears won their game. They're you know spinning this to like we're back we're good. Yeah this is we're making a run. Was Maddie refusers actually a good coach. How did he win four games. I have no idea. It's actually insane or foreign to yet. No roster. They play the Rams the Dolphins and then the Lions. So yeah I mean the good thing about the Niners, you'll just find
Starting point is 01:21:05 out because if they run the table then they're absolutely a Super Bowl contender because that would be beating the Rams, the Lions, the Dolphins and the Cardinals. So the rest of your season is going to be spent hoping that Caleb plays well. How would you say Caleb played today? Not good. I mean he held on to the offensive line is terrible but he holds on to the ball too long. He had a couple moments in the second half but yeah yeah, it's just everything's a mess couple good plays by Rome I don't know why Thomas Brown was taken from from the the booth to the sideline I don't know if that matters in my dumb brain. It does Can you do that? Can interim head coach be a head coach from the booth?
Starting point is 01:21:38 I'd love for him to do it. It just felt like they had a little tiny bit of Momentum and it really wasn't a lot of momentum because they still sucked in the first half in every first half But yeah, I don't know just get just reset get to the fucking offseason and let me stop thinking about the Bears for a couple of months and then I'll I'll fill myself up with optimism and I'll say stupid shit that I'll regret later and we'll just do it all over We heard an interesting fact during the game today that at first None of us really believed but it turns out I think it might be true that
Starting point is 01:22:09 The McCaskys won't let people wear Bears merchandise in their box during the games. No logos. No logos. It's like beneath It's not classy enough, which I'm not surprised. I mean they that's some rich people shit They didn't that's old money shit. They asked hard knocks to have no swears But like you're at a Bears game and you're in the owners box and they're like, can you please take that Bears hat off? Yeah Listen, they're they're terrible. Like you like to would you like to apologize to me for making me apologize to you? When the Bears are foreign to? No Okay, I don't good question. I'm not in the business. I'm just curious. I've given
Starting point is 01:22:46 out so many apologies. So I'm out of apologies. That's fine. I mean, that's classic Hank. He's just curious guy. Yeah. Yeah. Good question. Maybe after the season when I can refill with apologies. Okay. I just feel like I've been apologizing to everyone. Fair. Everywhere. For everything I've said. Fair. So we'll just get to that put that on the list got it make a note for yourself and we'll we'll circle back yeah good question thank you you should apologize when Hank does his nine daughter yeah deal great what what max what was that so just patch your mic into side punishments are are are cooked in a bad spot. We're in a bad spot with punishments I'm gonna get my tattoo. I have a tattoo artist in the center of everything
Starting point is 01:23:31 Next year. I'm gonna get a perm. I'm gonna do the baseball at some point. Yeah, we're having some problems with the baseball thing It's gonna come but it's it's due to the weather and it's also we're trying with the nine dollar trying to do something that is Above and beyond for the AWLs and it's it's proving to be difficult same with the nine dollar same with the nine darter. We're trying to do something that is above and beyond for the AWLs and it's proving to be difficult. Same with the nine darter. Same with the nine darter. Same with the nine darter. Okay, Seahawks 30, Cardinals 18.
Starting point is 01:23:54 This was the other team. So it was the Steelers, the Vikings, and now the Seahawks. I don't know what happened during the Seahawks bye week, but their defense is completely different. This game was, it looked like the Cardinals came ready to go, scored on the first drive, and then Kyler started shitting down his leg and throwing picks, and the Seahawks controlled the entire game. So what's changed with the Seahawks is Ernest Jones is really good.
Starting point is 01:24:18 And he's kind of taken on a big part of that defense, and he is playing awesome right now. Yeah. So the Seahawks defense shut the Cardinals down today. Their offense, the Cardinals defense has been pretty good at home. Yeah. They couldn't stop the run at all. Teams couldn't score against the Seahawks. Yeah. Seahawks were the Cardinals. Yeah. Against the Cardinals and Charbonnet was just electric today. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I think I'm, I think I believe in the Seahawks. I mean, they're now on the top of the NFC West, uh, and the way they've been playing, they've won four in a row. Their defense looks completely different. They have weapons everywhere. I think I'm believing in the Seahawks. They do have the NFC playoffs are going to be fucking
Starting point is 01:25:00 both sides. They've, they've got the weapons. They finally reached the point where JSN and DK have like fully taken over all the time for Lockett. Yeah. Lockett is barely even after thought on that offense, but Jason has been playing great the last few weeks. Let's do a headline. Is this the most wide open the NFL's ever been? I can't. You know what? I'm thinking back to 2017. Obviously it was pretty wide open in 2017 too this might be the most wide open the nfl's ever been 2020 it was wide open 2020 was wide open yeah covid year covid nothing anybody's game last year was kind of wide open too last year but then the chiefs and the niners played in the super bowl well it's about to be the chiefs again this year it just feels like it It just feels like it. They're not good.
Starting point is 01:25:44 They only have one loss. They don't lose. I know. All right, Seahawks Cardinals though. We're talking about them. Gino is now 6-0 against the Cardinals. Yeah, he doesn't lose to them. It feels like this is the end of the Cardinals season.
Starting point is 01:25:58 They had a nice run, but they have fallen off. And it just, it's frustrating. I've said it many times before but like watching the Cardinals when things are not clicking on offense they might be the most frustrating offense to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Not great because you just expect big plays to happen and you expect when Kyler runs around that something cool is going to happen and then it just doesn't happen. Yeah. So this is a big time pivotal game for both teams. Yeah. So because they won now the Seahawks are way way more likely to make the playoffs if the Cardinals had beaten the Seahawks today It would have been kind of would have been reversed. Yeah Seahawks would be down to like I don't know 11% if they had lost
Starting point is 01:26:36 Yeah So pretty crazy pretty crazy outcome I don't think anybody thought it was gonna be a big-time blowout like it was but Kyler basically put them in the shitter in the first quarter Basically, I'm watching for for the car I mean, I guess they could they're too lost too back in the in the lost column and The Seahawks have the tiebreaker because they beat him twice. So they're not eliminated, but it feels like they're eliminated I'm just gonna watch to see if Trey McBride will have the best season of a receiver ever without scoring a touchdown
Starting point is 01:27:05 How many yards you have now? 850 yeah does not have a touchdown get him in the end zone get him in the end zone It's crazy. I'll get the guy in the end zone. Are we sure that Marvin Harrison jr. Is good actually yes We are just remember Marvin Harrison senior listens to the podcast. Yes. We are he is very I just wanted to say that Marvin Harrison jr. Is an impact player incredible? They gotta get him the ball more really good player really good player. Okay last game best game Rams 44 bills 42 This game ruled Josh Allen was out of this world good Matthew Stafford was out of this world good Puka Nakua is unguardable Cooper Cup was catching balls off his thighs
Starting point is 01:27:46 It was awesome. Everything about this game was awesome. Yeah. So a couple of things, a couple of firsts for Josh Allen and the Bills today. Josh is the first player with three pass touchdowns and three rush touchdowns in the same game. Yeah. Crazy. In NFL history. Crazy. And it's also the first time that a team scored six or more touchdowns with no turnovers and lost I don't like that stat because they're just pretending that the block block on that Changed the game the block that literally was the game that was returned for a touchdown Yeah, both teams couldn't be stopped and then the special teams of the Bills failed once and that was the game
Starting point is 01:28:19 Yeah, it was a pick six without it was a kick six. Yes That's a that's a misleading stat it but it's also true stat It is a misleading stat. But it's also true stat. It is a true stat, but I, I want to say when, when 10 years from now and it happens again and we're like, Oh, the only other time it happened will be like Bill's Rams. We're like, actually there was a block punt. And also that was during the wide open 2024 NFL season. Yes. When anything the most wide open season we've ever had. Yeah. Oh, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:41 this was, this was football porn. It was, you knew I, I was saying on Friday, this is another one of those kitchen sink games for Sean McPhain. He's had a couple of them this year where it's like the Rams back has been against the wall and he's going to basically call a perfect game. And by the way, Hank, I feel like Tom Brady's kind of finding a rhythm because he was saying, which was a good point, that the Rams have very rarely been in a position this year where they can dictate their play calls offensively and how it looks so different when they were playing with a lead and Sean McVeigh playing with a lead can do whatever he wants. And they haven't been in that spot. And that's
Starting point is 01:29:18 why they were just like exploding offensively. Yeah. He also creamed himself over Cooper Cupps hands at one point. Yeah. Strong. And his voice sounds bad.. Yeah. Strong hands. And his voice sounds bad. He's got strong hands. His voice sounds good. No, his voice was scratchy. I like it.
Starting point is 01:29:30 He sounded under the weather. Oh, you like it? Sounds like daddy. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. The kitchen sink, by the way, was like get the ball to Puka Nakuwa. Yeah, and Cooper Cupp.
Starting point is 01:29:41 And Cooper Cupp. Oh, and they ran the ball really, they ran for like 100 yards in the first half. I just love watching Puka Nakuua. Yeah, he's he's so good. He's making the throwing of the ball when he's covered He's fully he's not open Yeah, and just knowing that he's gonna do something incredibly athletic and strong and acrobatic and end up coming down with a catch Yeah, he always does the Rams were 11 for 15 on third down and every time they needed a third down They found one and bring five guys to tackle. Yeah. Yeah, He's awesome. The Rams are a dangerous team if they could ever get in the bills. Hate, hate James Cook. Yeah. Well, they were playing from behind. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:16 And then I gave a free bet, a 15 K free bet to our graphics team and they picked James Cook anytime touchdown. And then our good good friend number one ball knower or ball watcher in America Liam Blutman Like I don't know halfway through the third quarter was like actually there's some stats showing that they're saving him for the playoffs So there is carries are down. It's like that would have been nice to know the usage rate. Yeah He just went off on the usage rate and Josh Allen is just he's a he's a TD vulture He does it go every time at the goal line. Just sitting Josh diving headfirst through the pile. We should mention by the way, all time
Starting point is 01:30:50 stupid mistake by Sean McDermott at the end of the game. That's a Brady Brady. I mean, that was so because they did it perfectly. They so set the stage. The bills were down. What were they down? Nine. It was 44, 35 I believe. They were down nine and they had all three timeouts and the Bills ran a perfect drive where they were getting everything to the sideline. They were getting out of bounds. They were going quickly. Essentially if they can keep all three of their timeouts, they will be able to kick
Starting point is 01:31:20 it deep if they want to try to get a stop and then a punt and field goal to win. They get all the way down to the one yard line and then Sean McDermott calls a, uh, a tush push. Don't get in. He burns the one time out game over. That's it. Cause then you have to onsite kick. You're not going to get the onsite kick game over. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I don't know why they did it so perfectly. And then at the last second they're like, Oh, cause they were at the one yard line. It was a pass interference. The end zone. They did it so perfectly and then at the last second they're like, oh, because they were at the one yard line. It was a pass interference at the end zone. They could have just ran a bunch of pass plays and not had the clock go. You were just thinking that there's no chance that they stop them on this quarter. Right, but it was just that you had done it to perfection to get a one stop all three timeouts, get a punt, 20 seconds left, have Josh Allen get into field role range.
Starting point is 01:32:04 It worked perfectly and then you just threw it all out. So it was a big mistake by McDermott. There was also another big mistake at the very, very end of the game. So the Rams punt, they did a walk off punt, which you hardly ever see, but the idea was kick the ball so high in the air that it lands after the clock expires. Yes. So you get no time at all. McDermott had nine guys on the field oh nine oh not ten not eleven guys and there was there was a penalty just before that with the delay of game that the Rams took intentionally oh to wind the clock all the way down and you still had nine got post penalty nine nine guys on the field you're supposed to have eleven you think that Sean McDermott
Starting point is 01:32:43 would know the difference between 9 and 11 Yeah, you would I've heard you absolutely would if there's two numbers out there the two numbers. He would know he would okay Sunday football Chiefs win walk off field goal doink That works in their favor. Dave. Yeah, they've got the power of the doink on there So the doink is an enemy to everyone except the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Yeah, they, uh, that big third down at the end of the game when they get Travis Kelsey, where if the Chargers can stop them, they would have like a minute and a half left. That was the backbreaker. Credit to the Chargers because it looked like they were not interested in playing in this game in the first half without Lab McConkey. And then they came out and had a nice second half, but the Chiefs just keep winning. They're just better than everyone. We will have Jerry O'Connell on the show to talk about the fantasy recap for this season.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Yeah. Jerry had Ladd starting for us until the last second. Oh no. Took him out, put Palmer in instead. That overthrow would have been probably 70 yards and a touchdown. We ended up losing 100.82 to 102.2 to that's the difference right there. That's it. Jerry, I want game of inches, folks. I want you to walk me through your thoughts and your process. This is your
Starting point is 01:34:02 exit interview game of inches. That's brutal. Thank you. Bet that you bet this game. Oh, oh, Max. Thanks for sending this this way. If Juan Soto goes to the Mets, I'll post a video of me eating a gallon of human shit. Why would someone tweet that? Oh, well, this was tweeted today. Yeah an hour ago so it was somebody that was hoping to go borrow all things Philly yes is you this would not be me why'd you send it them yeah I did not send meme sent that I think it's you I think max out it Hank you think she's just gonna win the Super Bowl I Think they're gonna get to the Super Bowl unfortunately I still they can't and
Starting point is 01:34:54 They have black magic they have they have curses they have witches like they're not a good team They're not they're not a good. They're not it's gonna happen, but it's gonna happen in the playoffs They're gonna lose. They're gonna beat the Bills in a weird way. They're gonna be the rain is in a good team. They're not. They're not a good. They're not. It's going to happen. It's going to happen in the playoffs. They're going to lose. They're going to beat the bills in a weird way. They're going to beat the rain is a weird way. Like they're They're not possible to watch this team and watch how the season is gone and Because all you know expectations and like projections go out the window. They just win. So in the playoffs is the ultimate example of that happening like somehow teams the great teams win. They've won two Super Bowls. They're not worried about the pressure. No I they're going to find a way to win somehow. I agree with you. You're reading. I agree with you in that fact like people you know say oh they get lucky. It's
Starting point is 01:35:38 like no no they're just really talented and if the ball bounces their way they're ready. You can't have any mistakes against the Chiefs. If the ball bounces their way, they're going to capitalize on it. That's why they're Andy Reed and Patrick Holmes and the chiefs. I just don't know. Like I feel like Patrick Holmes has no time. Uh, their offensive line feels more like it was in the 2020 season than last season or the season before where it's like last season. Holmes looks bad too I know because he has no time they're not a great they don't have guys that are beating people one-on-one but they are great at winning right yeah I guess you're right exactly what to
Starting point is 01:36:14 do to win close games at what's the record against the spread this year bad really bad they've I think I think it's like six or seven in a row they've lost yeah I mean they just they know how if they get like big cats if they get one break Yeah, they just capitalize on did you were you impressed at all with the Chargers? And also you were so happy when Justin Herbert you thought he his knee exploded No, no, I bet I bet that I had the Chargers I was I was riding the Chargers. I drank the Kool-Aid that overthrow was Rubbing my fault. I was I was riding the Chargers. I drank the Kool-Aid that
Starting point is 01:36:47 overthrow was Inexcusable really it was a good second half. It was a good comeback They needed it I thought he was gonna have a chance like that they needed it they needed to make that third down stop Just never needed to have a shot to at least you know win the game or whatever But yeah, they I mean they stink like they're just they're just, they're bad. Right. So they're not, they're not, they might win one playoff game. The chiefs, the chiefs are not a good team, but if it's at the end of the game and you need one drive to put you in a position to win the game, there's still a great team. Yeah. They might be the best team in the NFL in that scenario.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Max can't find it, but I have it seven straight against the spread losses. Wow. Seven, including tonight. That's insane. How long are you going to keep the Chargers could win the Super Bowl charade going? I don't know if they can win the Super Bowl. I think they win a playoff game and then I'll probably cash out one of my two future. The entire reason behind this bet was for a cash out.
Starting point is 01:37:43 We know I know. But also, you said that you probably wouldn't cash out. Well, I need two of them. So I'll definitely cash out one of them. Yeah, if they want to if they want to play off game. It'll be after a playoff game. They got to win one playoff game and then I will be like, Yes, let's cash out. All right. Any other thoughts from week 14? I'm happy. Buys are gone. Yeah, we need to we need to get back to I think next week we have five games late balls deep in football and they're
Starting point is 01:38:12 like really good games too. And then we're going to get Saturday football soon. Saturday football is always nice. That's in a week. Xavier will get cost us a great episode. Yeah, Xavier will get the sicko should be upset with him. The sicko should be very upset at Xavier LeGette because Max was going to be prime, prime upset, especially after his rant about the Lions. It would have been great. Yep. It would have been great. They stole that from us. Yeah. Next week we have Bill's Lions, Steelers Eagles. Early? No, all the good games are late. All the good games are late. Bill's Lions and Steelers Eagles late and Bucks Chargers, which will be so fun. That's gonna be fun.
Starting point is 01:38:52 That's too so fun. Fun games. That's those are some fun ass games. The the acronym for it. The Eagles commanders game that we talked about potentially being flexed to Monday night that Max and I were looking forward to yeah maybe turns out that's not a possibility of happening because their earlier matchup was on Amazon and the NFL has a rule where if Amazon has one game then you can't take their second game away from Fox or CBS Which I'm very happy about because I I know you guys wanted to go to the game But we need that game to be streamed and we need to be able to have an episode after it. Because Christmas week we won't have a Wednesday episode so if it went to
Starting point is 01:39:30 Monday night we would have just sat for like three days waiting to talk about it. Now we get to talk about it right away. Yep. And it could be significant. You gotta beat the Saints. Gotta beat the Saints. Gotta beat the Saints 1-0. Gotta beat J.K. Or Spencer Rattler. Yeah. All right. Let's do, oh, I have a rollback question. RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zip's polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roweback.com promo code take. So we're down to two. Max has clinched. PFT is still trying to clinch. We'll have two playoff teams on this podcast possibly That's gotta be the Saints. Oh
Starting point is 01:40:08 Thank you. Shut the fuck up. So my rollback question is The two verse seven How much have you guys thought about this we first thought about that I'd say what a month and a half ago a month ago the Rams I'm just no I'm not I don't want the Rams but we're you should want the commies I'm just asking Rams make me nervous I'm just asking two verse seven I'm just asking because it's kind of it's pretty much locked in that the Eagles are going to have the, the Eagles could obviously go to one, but they're not going
Starting point is 01:40:50 to, it'd be very hard for them to go to three. They'd have to lose three out of their last four and the Seahawks would have to win out. Uh, and the commanders, they really can't, I mean it'd be hard for them to go up to the six. I think it's a collision course right now I think if we win three games We would still be the seven seed. I think yeah, cuz the Packers are ahead of you. Yeah, uh So have we thought are we thinking about it we're thinking about it I Welcome the challenge. I mean Rams are really good football. It's hard to do it Lou you could basically end his life it's hard to beat a team three times in
Starting point is 01:41:28 a year you could basically end what does that mean that means out you're probably gonna win one of the next two I don't know why you're scared man I like no I would I would think I would be I would want the commanders the commanders is like oh it's just a layup on your bowl it's a layup we're not even supposed to be here we're not even a good team it's on a layup. Put this on your bulletin board. Yeah, it's a layup. We're not even supposed to be here. We're not even a good team. Put this on your bulletin board. We haven't beaten a team that's above 500. Bulletin board.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Bulletin board. You want us. We're a cupcake. Who would you? All right, Max, let me ask you this way. Yeah, why would you want to play the Rams? If the season ended today, who would you want to see in the playoffs in that 2-7 matchup?
Starting point is 01:42:01 Best case scenario for you. In an outside world, it would be the commanders in this world I don't want to see the commanders in the playoffs that you can't yeah, it's one world. I want one world I'll just say it. I want the Eagles obviously right now. I'm a win-win for you house money Well, we're a year away command contending You guys are good like the, the Eagles are good. No, next year we're going to play off. Playoff team would be by definition at least good.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Yeah, no one to your definition. Zero. Oh, not even the memes definition. Right. Ah, I mean for maximum heartbreak for Max, you know, that that's what I'm saying. Like it's scary because it's just like the worst situation and would be such a bad loss for me And I see those losses so often well hey Max by the way But like the Eagles are objectively so much better than the commander objectively so much you guys aren't playing the game like you like Max
Starting point is 01:42:57 You you just beat the Panthers. Yes, I kinda You beat you beat the Panthers today like don't let anyone take away from that you got smoked by the fucking Cowboys We smoked the Panthers That was also a different Panthers team After we smoked them we lit a fire under their asses the like the Panthers are good now. Yeah, they are good They were bad. We're not good. The Bears beat the fuck out of the panther. We fucked him up. We fucked him up Yeah, that even foods coach the year. You guys are. Yeah. You guys are good at beating beating up bad teams. And then as soon as you play a team above 500 you look horrible. No that's
Starting point is 01:43:33 not true. We lost by like one score to the stealer one thing to the Steelers. What. And one score to the rave. Well you said let's get let's get a round of applause. I think we have different definitions of what horrible means, did you have some stats that you compiled? Anti-PFT commander stats? No, that was going to be my nerd nugget of the week on Thursday with the Cardinals losing the commanders having beat a team over 500 this season. Oh. But they're only under 500 because we beat them.
Starting point is 01:44:00 You're only- Take that loss out there. You're just playing teams because you sucked last year no we're playing that's how the NFL works that's why you should be excited to play them I know but I but that's also why I would lose because I lose these games listen Max we're not lose cuz of your attitude I'm not I'm not is your you just said that I'm not playing in the game pick a side I'm just that's but like you're not playing in the game, the match up favors the Eagles so you fucking root-
Starting point is 01:44:26 Like that's- that's what your take is. You'd rather play the Commanders than the Rams. Outside of this world, yes. The Rams are a better team than us. Correct! Yes. Um... Yeah, get your head out of your ass, Max.
Starting point is 01:44:42 You're afraid of this world. Yes, I'm afraid of this world. You're afraid of this world. Yeah, you are. I'm afraid of this world. OK, I'm afraid of this fucking room. What room would we watch that in? That's an important one. We're afraid of this room. We probably have to watch it in here. I will say that does make it.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Max, you're going to smoke us in the playoffs. Smoke them. It will be such incredible. It's not even close. Your passing game is great. But I forgot to I wrote down this, because we're talking about schedule. I am pumped to have a fourth place schedule again That's the best. Yeah, when you get a fourth place schedule. It's like we get to just play the bad teams from every other division nothing better
Starting point is 01:45:18 This guy would know yeah, it's great Listen the commanders this year. I don't know. Why do you keep bringing the commanders up max? I didn't they name this up, dude We're not a good team. We're we're perfectly Average team. I think that our offense is above average But we're not supposed to be good this year. Yeah, so if we make the playoffs I mean if we get a playoff win, that's like multiple. Oh my god Oh my god, it was over the Eagles division rival I have to plant a flag in Max's seat
Starting point is 01:45:49 I would rather have that than even a Super Bowl this year just like beating the Eagles in the playoff I'll go full Jack Sawyer on that shit. Well, oh you got his name No, I do that no do that no fight PFT, and I would pepper spray you pug would macy Imagine pugs standing there with a big thing at pepper spray Ready to go bear mace. Okay. He actually does walk around with pepper spray everywhere he goes so that makes no way Of course yeah, sorry. They're robbing us the other night. Oh, he's gonna pepper spray him. Yeah, well this was Hank's fault. There was I mean There was some crazy shit going down when I left the office last night So I called and told them and then I think I'm gonna freak them out
Starting point is 01:46:39 But it wasn't I wasn't like trying to freak him out. It was who? like trying to freak him out it was who Hug Pug also pays for those citizen app to make sure that he gets a Karen Citizen premium oh yeah Terrified yeah that nothing will scare you more than knowing the details of every crime that takes place anywhere near you yeah in the city of Chicago Yeah, that's good people clean the building. We're gonna rob us. Oh my god. These guys bear bear me I'm gonna try to figure out a way to get mace by pug
Starting point is 01:47:08 Why I want to why cuz it should be funny It's supposed to be like the most painful thing ever I know but it would be funny if we like snacks and mugging on them want to do a mace now Do you want to do a mace bet for the playoffs? It's a bonus bet yeah it's a bonus bet I'm down for it if man it also doesn't take it's not like all of our other bets that take forever like you just do it right away so you just pay it off yeah I'll go I would be the one that would have to shave my fat fucking face and get pepper sprayed what do you mean you have to shave your fat face I already
Starting point is 01:47:43 had to do that. For what? The sixes are back, one two in a row. Wait, you beat the Bulls. That was like five years ago. Wait, what? Oh yeah, are you talking about the fucking soul patch? Yeah, that was like the worst punishment any of us had to do. Yeah, that was a pretty bad one. Sixty minutes of stand up? I would have crushed that. that max I'll shake on it
Starting point is 01:48:07 right now that's crazy commanders Eagles you wouldn't if you had if you had the choice gets maced six minutes in oh yeah that's yeah you fucking liar come on coward what mace bet no I'm not doing the mace bet let's not we can't even get there. We're not even there yet. Let's talk about that. I wonder why you fucking sunk down. I had to piss so bad. What? You just pissed?
Starting point is 01:48:36 I just pissed right here. I can't see that. That's so gross dude. What do you mean? I had to piss. It was going long. I just told you to do it twice in the past five minutes. We've been doing that for years Max. Thanks for listening to of my take I just I sunk down so you couldn't see anything All right, base. I've checked off during time mace bet no I'm checking off right now. All right, let's do who's back of the week. We'll talk some college football as well I'll do the bracket for my who's back Coors light from overcrowded stores and flight delays to awkward family dynamics and dinner mishaps The holidays are far from perfect, but that doesn't mean we have to lose our chill forgotten ingredients from overcrowded stores and flight delays to awkward family dynamics and dinner mishaps.
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Starting point is 01:49:52 out, not outrage, but a lot of, you know, chirping going on online being like, Oh, it's the sec championship big game. And we have a French sounding actor, a French, uh, someone with New York City guy ship Actor from New York City as the guest picker like how could we not do better? Then he went on stage and absolutely crush it a leap all-nowhere knows way more than Desmond Howard Probably listening this podcast at some point. Yeah, I'm listening right now. He's a sports freak I think he actually someone found out he's a Ringerhead, but but that doesn't mean you can't there's's both. If he listens to Rossello he probably has heard of us. Yeah. And I think I mean that there's the you know there's a lot of people that listen to both. Yeah. Yeah. Timothy come
Starting point is 01:50:33 on the podcast Timothy. Come on. Come streaming game. Talk some ball. Yeah. Do you think he is an actual ball no or and I do. but there was some some people saying he was just you know Reading lines a good actor. No because someone else posted a picture of him When he was like 12 years old Waiting outside a Broadway play trying to get a Mari Stoudemire Stoudemire to sign a Knicks jersey. I think he's a sports fan. Yes. He obviously like do I think he's watching I think he's a sports fan. Yeah. Yes. He obviously like do I think he's watching Maxion maybe not but I think he is a genuine sports fan. I love the fact that it was also outside of a play Yeah, it's got the acting in the sports on look Timothy Chalamet waited outside a Broadway show to get a Maurice Stoudemire's autograph when he was 14. Mm-hmm. I
Starting point is 01:51:20 It was awesome. Yeah, did you good job memes just said he did a lot better than jm use gaspaker. Oh, that's good one means That's a good one. Wait. How do you got chirped at the it was brutal? Dude, it would like add five seconds and I don't know where his took his opportunity I was just I was actually because I saw Max and Hank here on Saturday I was here with my kids running around hitting some wiffle balls. So I was hitting some dingers. Max, you were lefty. And then I just started getting tagged in a tweet. It was this kid who was kicking for one point two million dollars. And McAfee was like, do you know anything about field goal kicks?
Starting point is 01:51:56 He was like, yeah, double doing big cat. What the fuck did he make the kick? He missed it. Oh, that's a shame. Yeah. Real shame. Also, I should have let a lawyer kick it. Also herb street shout out that guy He's probably an awl not to get personal herb street kid. The guy that says big cat. Yeah He stinks at holding Yeah, bad holder. I don't want to throw him under the bus, but he's a bad holder
Starting point is 01:52:20 Shout out that guy should have made the kick. He had two chances And then Texas lost. We'll sell me his record. I don't know. I know he had Ohio picked Ohio. I don't think it ended up being that good. Ah, but he had the one graphic where everyone else picked against him. Yeah, and then while one easily championship championship Saturday was pretty awesome. Pretty fun. Okay, he went four out of seven. That's pretty good. It's better than us.
Starting point is 01:52:45 We're so bad. Well, they're not picking against the spread. Yeah, but I don't know if I would win if I pick winners. Yeah. PFT, you're who's back. My who's back of the week is feeling young. Big Cat, I saw you tweet about this. We discussed it a little bit earlier, but there was a post online on x.com the everything app it's all happening on X that was along the lines of want to feel old
Starting point is 01:53:10 Jerome bettis's son Jerome bettis jr. Has enrolled mm-hmm at Notre Dame yeah Jerome bettis he I think last played college football in 1992 his last NFL season was 2005 I think he's 52 years old. Yeah. His son attending college lines up perfectly with that. He should be attending college. That's a want to feel young and we got to bring back want to feel youngs. Yes. And along those same lines Sean Taylor's brother just declared for the NFL draft. His brother. That's awesome. Want to feel young. Want to feel young. He's declaring for the draft. Also want to feel young. to feel young he's clearing for the draft also want to feel young Deon Sanders son is gonna declare for the NFL draft that
Starting point is 01:53:48 makes sense yeah makes perfect sense when I feel young John Cena doesn't have kids want to feel young you guys will be 55 when I'd want so does contract expires that's pre making me feel actually. Actually, that's not true. We'll be 54. We're not 40 yet, dude. I was 50, not 60, and you're right. And how old will you be? 47? Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:13 You're gonna be so old, Hank. Listen, we're already old. You still gotta get to it. Nah, I'm there. You're, you know, you're... We're good. No, I'm not. We're about to turn 40. You've been having a midlife crisis
Starting point is 01:54:28 Yeah, yeah, you wanted to buy a sick car Still do that's the the quintessential sign of a midlife crisis being like I need a sick car. Yep I'm looking forward to just being my age a little I'm looking forward to feeling old. Yeah. Yep Yeah sure is I am a little I am dreading 40 just because I've done the math and I I definitely am over halfway I'm I'm not feeling that bad about cuz I've mentally accepted. I've pretty much been 40 since I turned 38 Yeah, do you think it's worse turning 40 or turning 30? 30 was 40 30 was awesome. I loved 30 you still feel good when you turn 30, when you turn 40, every, like there's stuff,
Starting point is 01:55:08 there's injuries that you've just accumulated on your body. Yeah. 30 was a great age term because 30 is when you turn 30, one, you're young again, because everyone who's in their late thirties, you're like, Oh, I'm not going to get there forever. Two, you're finally like an adult that people kind of respect. Cause you're like, yeah, I'm 30. And then three, you, when you you're 30 you can start like skipping out on things being like yeah I don't really want to do it on third you can't be like you can't be 25 and be like no I don't want to go out this weekend guys. I'm tired. Yeah, you can't say you can when you're in your 30s
Starting point is 01:55:37 You don't get tired right 20s. You have no excuse you gotta go balls to the wall 30 is great 30 was freeing It was liberating memes, and I both turned 30 this year 30 30. Oh no in brick. We gotta get some young blood in here We gotta get a young we're gonna get a we're gonna get it. We're gonna do it right this year We're gonna get an intern early in the summer So we're gonna do it. How old is Jack? 25 okay, all right. We're gonna get some young blood my issues out when I started working here I was 19 and that's just like the the as I get older It's like I still feel like I'm living and it is this job is you know a young man's job
Starting point is 01:56:14 It feels like you know we're doing shit when I'm 19, but I'm wait. I thought you were 18 your first 19 Tom McShay video was 18 19 19 okay, and how old are you? 31 okay, so we still got a few years for me to say that I've known you for half your life Yes, Hank if you woke up tomorrow and barstool was just not a thing like it had never been a thing but you are unemployed You wake up and you have to find a job. What do you do? I? Think you'd find a job. Oh You know that I would try. Produce the number one sports podcast. Yeah, no, I'd probably
Starting point is 01:56:50 buy like a van and just drive around the country for a little bit. Yeah, figured out that sick. Everyone here would be good except memes because he's not he means to be great people be like, what and you need references. Are you gonna fight me in this interview? If you want to, I will write will write with us for life. It was glowing letter of recommendation. I'll do it right now if you want one right now. I'm okay. Sure, literally doing he's gonna
Starting point is 01:57:13 leave for Gruden in a second. Oh, but you'd fight you'd have to fight Gruden. Gruden would like that he'd be like feats of strength kind of thing. Let's fight. All right, my who my who's back. Let's talk about the college football playoff real quick. So we have the college football playoff, Alabama got left out. I feel no remorse for Alabama. I thought there was a chance they were going to sneak them in. I still think they would have snuck them in if SMU did not come back in that
Starting point is 01:57:39 game. It was basically the perfect way for SMU to lose in a walk-off bomb of a field goal after coming all the way back. But I don't really care about the teams that are left out. It's like the, it's like March Madness. We have, I don't know, an hour for me to feel bad and then I'm like, I'm excited for more football.
Starting point is 01:57:57 No, you can't feel bad for Alabama. No. Because you can just say to Alabama, you lost to Oklahoma. Well, and the big thing with Alabama fans, which I do not understand, they keep saying, get ready for us to schedule the weakest non conference opponents possible. They lost all three of their games in the conference. Yeah, there are three losses were Vanderbilt, Oklahoma and Tennessee. Yeah, you beat Wisconsin. Yeah, they kicked the shit out of the non conference
Starting point is 01:58:24 was not the issue. I the non conference was not the issue I don't think it was the issue for anyone. No, that's on the outside looking at uh, no Yeah, I don't think so. You just have to win the games that you should win like they were favored by I think 21 points against Oklahoma. Yeah, and I think they lost by 21 points. Yeah, Oklahoma Yeah, no, then a pretty big deal The only team that you could say the non conference was maybe a problem was Clemson just because they had to play Georgia at the first game, South Carolina the last game. They lost both those games.
Starting point is 01:58:50 If they had not won the ACC championship game, they wouldn't have been in. So you could make the argument they could have scheduled cupcakes and had one loss and been in. Yeah. Also shout out to Dabo Swinney. Yeah. After the game.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Zombie. After the game, he gets on the mic. And the first thing that he says is SMU should be in the playoff too. Yeah, like right away They said that that was the loudest cheer that went up from Clemson probably because they already knew that they were in Yeah, they weren't gonna give themselves a giant cheer But when they found out that SMU was also gonna make it and I'm very happy I really don't I don't I care for like maybe two seconds and then it's like alright
Starting point is 01:59:24 Let me look at the bracket because the bracket is awesome I they're gonna have to tweak it it should be the four best teams get a buy because it's definitely a little lopsided And it brings us to Penn State getting a dream draw Which I mean they have they I think they're heavy favorites over SMU they'd probably be heavy favorites over Boise State. And so they could theoretically be heavy favorites in both their first two games and get to the semis. Whereas Oregon, who is the best team in the country,
Starting point is 01:59:54 who's the only undefeated team in the tournament, has to play either Tennessee or Ohio State in the second round, which you could make the argument both those teams are not seated correctly and should be seated At five and six. It's crazy that this is the way that shook out. But first of all max Congratulations on finishing second place in the big 10. Yes big deal. That's huge And if you had won that game you would have been fucked maybe yeah Defense of Penn State was so bad. Yeah, they're all are very good
Starting point is 02:00:25 It was tough with that linebacker saying Big Ten bully on his eyeball They kept showing it they kept showing it and then they had Dylan Gabriel would just do Dylan Gabriel is so good at Running right up to the line of scrimmage and then throwing a dart every time I think he's gonna take off and he just throws it right at the line of scrimmage Big Ten bully But now if Penn State loses either of these first two games, it's disaster. James Franklin. It'd be like losing to Washington in the playoffs. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:51 And Georgia, I know that everyone keeps saying like, so Georgia's the two seed. Everyone's like, oh, well, Georgia is not Georgia. I understand that. Georgia has lost four games, I think, in the last four years and three of them, three of the four to Alabama. And Alabama's not in this bracket mm-hmm so and I know Carson Beck has hurt which might be a good thing yeah their backup might be better actually the real the real question is how injured is it a punter yeah cuz their punters are a fucking monster yeah yeah and I'm just excited I think it's gonna
Starting point is 02:01:22 be great I do think there's obviously some flaws in the system but I don't care I I'm excited for football I think it's gonna be great. I do think there's obviously some flaws in the system, but I don't care I I'm excited for football. I think there'll be an upset We don't think about I think Arizona State's one of those teams that is so hot right now And they were 11-1 with their starting quarterback. Why can't they go on a little scataboo? Yes, scataboo is fucking awesome Notre Dame. Yeah Marcus Freeman said that he had to look up a Kurt Signati I said I I googled him. Yeah And he wins. Yep.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Yeah. Yeah. Do we got to end state? We got this Indiana going up against each other? It does rock that we're gonna get to see playoff games in home environments. Yeah. That's gonna be very cool.
Starting point is 02:01:56 It's gonna be incredible. You guys have any issues with it? I mean, Memes is a Georgia fan. Only issue I have with it is that Boise State number three. I just say I hate I hate it I thought you were an action gente guy. I Am how scared were you on Friday? I wasn't scared. I was more just Listen the action genti bot army has made it very ugly But when he jumped up to plus 400 in that first half they have made it very ugly
Starting point is 02:02:24 They've just keep repeating, snaps aren't stats, and just completely erase the fact that he's playing two positions at a very high level. Stamina. Yeah. All he's good at is stamina. Yeah. And then we just say, we've never seen
Starting point is 02:02:38 Ashley and Johnny before, and we have. His name was Melvin Gordon, or Kevin Smith, or Barry Sanders. So you guys want to go pick national champion too? Yeah. Wednesday. Uh, we do Wednesday fill out your whole bracket. We do Wednesday. Oregon's really good. We keep saying no one's good. Oregon went undefeated. Ohio state might be good too.
Starting point is 02:03:01 I I'm so curious about Ohio state because it does feel like the, I think they could win it all. And I think that game should be good too. I I'm so curious about Ohio State because it does feel Like the I think they could win it all and I think that game should be in Tennessee. Yeah, that's my Well, no Ohio State should be the the the sixth seed just provides though or the fifth seed Ohio State has a better resume I mean they beat Penn State head-to-head. I Don't know seems like seems like they should get a little bit of a I mean they played on the head. I don't know. Seems like seems like they should get a little bit of a I mean they played on the field. I I think Ohio State could either win it all or they could come out and just be like a completely dead team. Totally flat against Tennessee. Yeah yeah that absolutely could happen. Oh yeah. Kirby Smart ripping Greg Sankey to his
Starting point is 02:03:38 face was so funny even though this is just my favorite part about college football because this is I mean it's Ash and Jenny thing. Obviously I'm by well, I'm unbiased but everyone has their wars and they fight to the death about it Kirby smart saying they put us on the road all these times. They played eight games in the state of Georgia. Yeah They did play the hardest teams possible. They did outside of this is the problem with the new super conferences They got to figure out a more balanced schedule, but we all knew it going into it and they'll figure it out Maybe going forward. What'd you think of the setup that they had for the college football playoff committee? I didn't see I didn't see a buffet. Yep. I didn't see wings. I didn't see any wings.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Nobody was drinking beer. Yeah. A lot of jeans. They don't represent the true football fan out there. Was it was it Ward Manuel who is drinking Perrier? Yeah water. Yep, Michigan disgusting disgusting Disgusting also shout out Kirk Herb Street Sun for committing to Michigan. Yes, very cool. Very very cool Well, you saw shut off Kyle long why he did he did a fucking a man tonight. Oh, he did. Oh, no What do you sweet fucking a man? Oh Did he delete it? Ah, he edited it. Yeah Oh, did he delete it? Ah he edited it yeah Got tagged a bunch, but oh, that's so funny he tweeted
Starting point is 02:04:58 Fucking a man that she's can't catch a break. Holy shit. Thank God. There's an edit button Okay, but that's different from just fucking a man because when you literally no no no the original tweet was fucking a man He tweeted the exact same tweet. Oh, he did oh, and then he edited it fucking a man because when you know you literally know no no the original tweet was fucking a man He tweeted the exact same tweet. Oh, he did. Oh, and then he edited it fucking a man. Well see no tweet Oh, that's so funny last edit 1006. Let me look up the revision history here. Oh, yeah, but he capitalized a I Think when you did it it was just fucking a man. Yeah, all right fucking Kramer, please Bug you carry on mace No, that's misinformation from X I have a pepper spray emergency only for emergencies will you carry it only in situations
Starting point is 02:05:40 Where I need to carry it like you have it here Maybe yeah That's cuz he has to work with memes. Yeah That's just we even than in the New York office to some late nights, you know walking home late Yeah, getting in, you know train station. So you got a whistle No, you gotta get a whistle. Somebody was carrying a mic stand around the office. He thought it was a gun Oh my god. I didn't know you were Karen. I didn't know you were Do you have a medic alert bracelet? No Should I go one? Yeah, we have all sounds like you should get one
Starting point is 02:06:17 Okay Anything you want to say beams about numbers are we are we passed you almost quitting on Friday? We're past that. Okay. I still work here. I'm employed. Okay, good. That was a tense moment.
Starting point is 02:06:32 I still work here. I still work here. Yeah. And you still got, we did the numbers. You still have so many days before we can say that you're the worst of all time. But I got it. No you didn't. No you didn't.
Starting point is 02:06:44 PFT got it okay numbers is memes picking his own yeah we agreed on that last time for forever okay three 11 I'll go to a PFT have you ever got this on your own so 17 I'll go 77 94 17 no 94, Pope. 17. Nope. 21. 45.
Starting point is 02:07:16 81. Oh, I thought that was 21. 81. Love you guys. So So So So Thanks for watching!

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