Pardon My Take - NFL Week 15, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bills Huge Comeback, Chiefs Eliminated, Mahomes And Micah Parsons Injuries + Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

NFL Week 15 Fastest 2 Minutes and then we recap every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:10:33) Bills 35, Patriots 31 (00:10:33-00:31:46) Chargers 16, Chiefs 13 (00:31:46-00:45:22) Ravens 24, Bengals 0 (00:45:22-00:50:43) Bears 31, Browns 3 (00:50:43-00:59:20) Eagles 31, Raiders 0 (00:59:20-01:07:36) Commanders 29 ,Giants 21 (01:07:36-01:11:58) Texans 40, Cardinals 20 (01:11:58-01:16:03) Jaguars 48, Jets 20 (01:16:01-01:25:02) Rams 41, Lions 34 (01:25:02-01:33:16) Seahawks 18, Colts 16 (01:33:16-01:43:57) Broncos 34, Packers 26 (01:43:57-01:57:20) Saints 20, Panthers 17 (01:57:20-02:02:28) Niners 37, Titans 24 (02:02:28-02:05:33) Vikings 34, Cowboys 26 (02:05:33-02:10:45) We then do who's back of the week talk Heisman and more (02:10:45-02:33:36)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad free on Amazon Music. On today is Pardon My Take presented by Draft Kings, Week 15 in the NFL. We had a crazy, crazy Sunday. A lot of pretty catastrophic injuries, some big time games. The playoff picture is getting a little bit clearer. We have some eliminated teams. Don't let the Bengals in the play.

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Today is Monday, December 15th week. 15. Whip! Whip! Poof! Poof! They're not going to get them. Tick, tch, tch, tch, tach, tach, tach.

We start in Chicago, where the wind was blowing, and the ice man cometh, as Caleb Ferell Williams made the Bears faithful happy as he hit DJ more, more, more. How do you like it? How do you like it? How do you like it for two touchdowns? And the route was on. As DeAndre 3,000, Swift said, the Brown's defense swells like poo, poo, poo, running for 98 yards and two scores himself.

As for the Browns, Shadirp Sanders went oopsie, not once, not twice, but three times as he was legend spoiled dairy as the milk has gotten rotten for the Cleveland offense. The one bright spot was making my way to the quarterback, walking fast, linemen pass, and I got a sack, because you know I'd walk. A thousand miles, Garrett, if I can see you tonight. I butcher that, but thanks to Vanessa Carlton for allow me to use her hit song. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And I want you.

And I need you. Bears 31, Browns 3. What? We go to Kansas City, where the chiefs look to continue their 11-year streak of everyone hating them by making the playoffs. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomio and Jude Juliet Smith-Schuster, seemed to be a forbidden connection by the Chargers' defense. Kandre had a little lamb, Burt, fleece the chiefs for a touchdown,

and Dei Ann, me say day in. Hindley, Daylight, come, and I pick off my homes, had a really big pick, tickling Andy Reid's tonsils, and for the first time in the history of part of my take, the Kansas City Chiefs have been eliminated from making the NFL playoffs. Huh? Huh? Huh?

The Chargers, 16. The Chiefs, 13. We head to Foxborough where Hank was on the scene. In Snowy Foxborough, the game started hot for New England. Started off hot for New England when Drake. Drake? Drake? May.

Skapered in for two first quarter touchdowns. Trayvion Ricky Henderson was flying past pill defenders on a 52-yard rushing TD to put the pads up 21-0. In the second half, the Patriots, Couldn't stop a nosebleed. The bills did whatever the fuck they wanted. The refs had their heads off their asses in the past. He gave a four straight touchdown drives on the deficient title. It was still not clenched.

Bills 35. Pass 31. Thanks, Hank. We head over to Cincinnati where Zach was on the scene. In Cincinnati, Lamar Jackson 5 throws a pass as easy as one, two, three to Rashad Mohammed Ali, who floats like a butterfly and stings like a B for a 30-yard TD. Later, Lamar Jackson 5, then pass a pass. is deep to Zaybebe, Zaybe, Zaybe, Zaybe, Zaybe, I'm in the club hauling. Now, when I holler

Zaybebe, I'm fin to get my groove on. It's so hard up in this club that I ain't got no shoes on. Holding up a big stack of them hundreds, it's a rubber band. Girl don't ask me for no cast because I'm not that other man. Flowers for 28 yards and a touchdown. Tyler Fruit of the loop keeps things high and tight, giving missiles for the entire game. The packages safe, the package is protected, and the package is right through the uprights. To seal the deal, Joe Buddenboro throws an interception harder to look at than that one evening he popped out onto the red carpet in a rocket-steam football jersey. Kyle Busch Van Noy then takes a bunch of right turns before it laterling to.

Oliveira Plank Gilman, who brings all 12 essential vitamins and 20 important minerals with him to the house for six points. Ravens 24, Bangle Zero. Thanks, Zach, you got flow. You got flow. Whop? Out in L.A. where Kyren and Stimpy Williams said, you idiot, you fool, to the Lions' defense for trying to keep him out of the end zone. The Rams' offense was humming as Puka Nakuna Matata said, ain't no worries for the rest of your days to his quarterback as Mufasa Stafford just had to throw it up to his wide receiver and good things happened, showing the lions who the real king was on Sunday.

The good news for Detroit is they're not grateful dead yet. and Amon Ross St. Brown-eyed woman looks as good as ever, scoring twice on the afternoon. But it's the Rams, clenching a playoff spot. The Rams, 41, Lions 34. What? What? We head now. I forget where the game was played.

It was in Jacksonville for memes. In Jacksonville, Liam Cohen Wilson said, wow, the Jets aren't going to play any defense today as Trevor Lawrence Taylor was on drugs looking for some Brenton Strange while having six total touchdowns. Jacobi Mike Myers found a mole in the Jets defense that had Travis Barker, Etienne, treating the Jets like a Kardashian while blowing their back out with three touchdowns. And Brian Tom Hanks said, Loth is like a box of chocolates.

You never know what you're going to get today. As he gets his second receiving touchdown of the season, Brady was cooking on his second drive of the game, but stayed in the kitchen too long, throwing three interceptions. While if peeing your pants is cool, consider me Isaiah Miles Davis. who stopped the Jaguars' onslaught of scoring with a rushing touchdown for the Jets defense. Steve Wiltzboos should have assassinated himself after letting the Jaguars score 48 points. Jaguars 48, Jets 20.

Thanks, thanks, memes. What was that that Liam Cohn-Wilson said? Wow. All right, we got to Max in Philadelphia. We head over to Philadelphia where Bruce Jalen Hurd spoke to Goddard by saying, smite me almighty smiter you're the one who should be fired not me after dropping an early touchdown right in his hands

but thank God I went off so that's all good on the other side of the ball it looks like oh my god we killed Kenny's career after an abysmal performance it's even affecting Bruce Powers as his stat lines are looking ghostly while screaming no fuck when seeing his quarterback week in and week out

Max Delente Crosby certainly can't crack a smile as he's fighting with his teammates on the sideline. We even got to see Tanner McKee Do you love me? I'll be driving. Say you'll never ever leave from beside me

because I want you and I need you and I'm down for you. Put together a fantastic drive to show that he may be the league's best backup. Eagles 31 Raiders Zero. What? We go out to Seattle. where only one of these two quarterbacks was looking darn old.

He wasn't seeing ghost. He was seeing grandpa's folks. Josh Blackhawk Downs evacuated himself into the end zone in the face of the Sam Olyan Warlords. And Jonathan Taylor Hicks was on Hull Patrol, impressing the Seattle Seacrest's defense. The Colts took a late lead on the shores of Blake Washington Groupy's 60-yard bomb. But Seattle place kicker Jason Myers-Linnard had several heating gaming moments of his own. Blasting six K-balls and giving the Seahawks the win, 15 to 13. Standing on a corner, James Winston and Hoboken, such a fine side to see. It's a dart, my lord, just missing the board and Mario to pronounce with hard tea.

Come on, Maras, can you please spare us? our own GM, he makes us real embarrass us. Commanders 29, the G-Men 21. And that was week 15 fastest two minutes, and it's brought to you by our friends.

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that we'll get to, but let's go, let's go through the slate. A lot of comebacks today. A lot of comebacks. Let's start with Bills 35, Patriots 31. What a comeback for the Bills. They were down 21-0 in this game. Josh Allen and the Bills look like they were sleepwalking. and then they score before half and they come out and Josh Allen had five straight

touchdown drives did whatever he wanted James Cook was an absolute beast and the Patriots lose for the first time in 10 games 11 games I guess this was their 11th game it was a great streak it was also I believe Mike Vrabble's first loss off a buy ever as a head coach yeah yeah when he was with the Titans I believe he was perfect and this obviously his first year with the Patriots. And yeah, they looked like they were in control of the game at halftime. Bill's got some bad news going to the game. Brentford was out with a toe. Yep.

So they couldn't have their best cornerback. And Drake May looked electric in the first half. He did. With his feet and with his arm. Two rushing touchdowns right out at the gate. And it was also the first time. So since 2017, home teams that were up 21-0 were 61-0 going into today. Mm-hmm.

and now this was a t-shirt and hack game for the Patriots and is now they still have a inside track on winning the AFC East they would have to lose to one of the AFC East teams which is Jets and Dolphins which they shouldn't struggle with. Probably not. Probably not. And the bills would have to win out for the bills to jump them. But Hank.

The hats were in the building. The hats were in the building. Yes. Your thoughts. would you like to talk or not talk? No, I mean, I have no problem talking It was a tough second half

It's been a while since you had to do this It has been a while since I've had to do this It was a very tough second half It felt like, you know The first half Division was ours The one seed was We were coming for the one seed

The Broncos were going to have a tough game Later in the day Everything was going great Drake way was running it everywhere Yeah, this was I'm talking about In the first half Yeah, no I was Okay, sorry

he said in the first half yeah in the first half yeah but then Josh out I mean that's every time we talk about the who were you worried about and even when the bills were not playing well as Josh Allen was always the top of the list because of that reason he has experience

he doesn't get phased in in situations where they're down you know I think they have the most comeback or whatever second half points in the league Patriots defense couldn't stop anyone refs were nowhere to be found making some crazy calls not going to blame on the refs

But they should be mentioned The Patriots D couldn't stop anyone And prosecuted, yes, should be mentioned And put in jail And again, Drake Maze is a second year It's his first time playing in these meaningful games He, you know, didn't play great in the fourth quarter Is this how I would say?

He kind of missed some throws Took some interesting shots, you know There was a third down where he threw it deep When he had a guy coming across the middle It was hopefully a good lot You know, hopefully it's a, it's a, it's a, they were in it. Like I said, before the, before the game last week, if they lose and it's close, that's something that can be built upon.

Stefan Diggs said that after the game, said it was, it was good loss. Good loss. And they have a chance next week to basically be in another playoff game like with the Ravens, with the Ravens Sunday night football. So hopefully they bounce back. Yes. It was, it was bad. If you were to blame the rest, what, how would you do it?

But you're not going to. you but how would you do the past interference call uh on third down it was a weird call it was weird call it was late call the play was over then the flag came out of nowhere that always drives me nuts and then on the fourth down there was like three Patriots receivers getting held no flags to be found so that's i'm not blaming the rest because the Patriots didn't stop anyone but if i was it would be for that reason there was someone uh who we work with who who did blame the refs can i read you what he wrote sure he said the patriots are by far the better team these are fucks. We're never going to let the Patriots beat the poster boy of the NFL two times.

The NFL should be fucking embarrassed with what millions of eyes watched today from the referee squad. This game is so corrupt. So that's stats, our stats department? No, that was from one Nicholas Fasoli. And then you also posted this picture. I don't know if you saw it. It looks real. It looks like Josh Allen kissing the referee on the lips. Yeah, no, that does look real. I think that happened in the game, which I, if I'm watching it home and I see that as a Pats fan, I'm like, come on. At least try to make it look like you guys are calling it neutral. Yeah, go in the blue 10 if you're going to make out. Yeah.

So I actually thought that Drake May played really well in the first half. People are saying like the interception, that was a great punt. It was essentially an armed punt. There's also pass interference in that play, but they didn't call it. Also the interception. They called pass interference on a ball that the Patriots deep intercepted and somehow they ruled it a catch for the bills and it was no pass for interest. That was insane.

They're deep. I like that. I'm going to start using that. Yeah. But yeah, I thought that this was a, it was a great opportunity for Drake May to get his first come from behind game-winning drive in his career and I thought he was going to do it

and I guess if he's going to learn from it I feel like it's good that it happened now right as opposed to happening in the playoffs right after the game Josh Allen said what you know they asked him like what does this team have what makes his team special he said we don't blink so Vrable is no naps

the bills are no blinks even listen the bills I mean we all know what they're offense can do their offense can get going at any point uh shout out dawson knox who had two touchdowns also uh a father this week and josh is going to be a father expectant father congratulations thanks josh friend josh the bill's defense is their achilles heel but if you look at what the bills have done in some of these like big time games last week they couldn't get a stop they get the back-to-back interceptions one being a pick six against the bengals remember the steelers game when they looked

absolutely dead in the first half and then Bosa gets the sack on Rogers fumble touchdown they had the two clutch game saving stops in this game I think the Bucks game they had they closed it out with two turnovers so their defense is like one of those situations where yes there's they can be had but they have also stepped up in big time moments to make big time plays and win games because their offense is not the problem right their defenses but it's almost like their offense gets better when they play from behind yeah when their backs up against the wall. Yeah, I mean, 21-0. And it was like, okay, well, if they score before

half, it's going to be a game, and that's exactly what it was. That is the largest comeback win by a visiting team in the history of Gillette Stadium. That doesn't happen at the G-spot. Doesn't happen to the G-spot. You shut them out. I want to read a tweet from an unnamed Pat's fan, run it up, followed by six exclamation points. Give me the one seed, followed by two exclamation points. Who is that? Who is that? I'll do another blind tweet from this person. Big Cat and PFT are being dickheads. Yeah, you guys were just whispering behind my back

the entire game. I wasn't saying in front of you. Hold on. No, no, no. The only whispering I did was because I opened up. Hey, Max, want to look at this thing? I open up Twitter. I'm not going to say this out loud, but like, I wish I could. I opened up, you know, that was something totally different than I'm not going to say out loud. That's totally

different. That I said, you've heard me say it. Nope. The take I did out there? I don't know. Yes, you take. Now you're lying. A hundred percent. Now you're lying. I had nothing. had nothing to do with the Patriots because you know that had nothing to do with it. Yeah, you know what my take was and it was nothing to do with it. It was about college football.

Yeah. Okay. I'm just saying what I heard. I pulled up Twitter at like 4 o'clock and the top tweet was the run-it-up tweet because you know how it's not in like sequential order and that's what I said to that. That was it. Hank, I don't think that we were being dickheads though. I think we were watching the game.

I had money on it. I took the hungry dog. Yeah, yeah. I was rooting for the pads. Anyone can watch that stream and be like, Damn, who's the Pats fan here? It's PFT. He had the Hungry Dog.

I had the Hungry Dog. I had Drake for 300 plus today as well, which I was rooting for. It wasn't like the season's over. This is a loss to a good team. No, I never said it was. It was a great loss. You said it. I just think you weren't used to losing.

No, and to blow a lead like that, it was tough. The defense was just. What, Max? No, I got, no. No, Max, you got something. You were about to say something. ridden, Max. You look like the Grinch back there. Max, sure with the class. It's just interesting that this is

the exact same thing that happened in the Broncos Eagles game where I got mad for Hank screaming Doddington bones in my year. Oh, Max did, but that one. I was good. I had the bills too. Good point. I had Bill's money line. He did. But you weren't you were saying anything to my face

who were snickering behind my back. That's way what... Pussy shit. That is that is just showing... That is showing respect to someone who's actually in the moment of the getting someone and saying Doddington Bones in the arena. You're in the arena at the moment, Hank. Yeah, Matt, you guys...

You would have rather us touched you? You would have rather... I didn't know how to dream Doddington Boat. I did not touch Max. I, Max... Doddington Allen? Hit me in the dick through my phone across the room and screamed in my face.

I wouldn't have cared if he was rooting for the bills. I don't give a fuck. But you were mad at us for snickering. You guys were acting like I wasn't sitting there. Like, oh, my God. It was... That was sweet. We're trying to communicate.

No, Pete was doing it all game. I was not doing it all game. I was rooting for the Patriots. I'm allowed to tweet whatever the whatever I won. You guys were being dickheads. That's my opinion. Okay. You're last year out.

That's fine. Fair. Yeah, you're entitled to. You're trying to try to put you wrong. I have no problem. I'm correct. Calling us dickheads. We probably were.

Probably are. We all are. We're all dickheads. Yeah. Did you see Mike Frable's quote after the game was basically draft Joshchallon.com. They asked him about, Josh Allen and how he was able to come back in that game. He said, same thing everybody else sees.

Six, five, 250 pounds, runs fast, hard to tackle, hard to get down on the ground, accurate, strong arm, giving you a dissertation on a league MVP, just watch all the games. That's why they pay him 60 million. I don't know what to tell you. A dissertation on league MVP. Like he put on a clear quote. Like what do you want, your eyes can see it. Josh Allen just, when he catches fire, there's nothing you can do.

And he was catching fire. Yeah. And I mean, credit to the Patriots running. I thought Henderson looked really good today. Shot out of a cannon. Yeah, he had that big run in the... It was the fourth quarter? Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, does it concern you that the Patriots seem to struggle when they're playing from behind? No. I mean, they were down in the fourth quarter took the lead back. Yeah.

But they tend to struggle. If they struggle at all, it's when they're playing from behind. Does not concern me. Not concerned. No. So, uh, Torch update. Does Drake

May still have the torch? I don't, this is like am I like, taking crazy pills? What? We had this exact conversation on Thursday that the torch was not, there was no update after this game. Well, I just want to know the torch update. Just go listen to the show we did on Thursday. I'm curious how you do it right now when you watch it. If the Patriots lose this game, does the torch go back? And we said no. And we went over the whole thing. No. I'm just curious where you sit right now.

Torch update, same as when we talked about it two days. Drake, which is Drake May still has the torch. yeah what about now what if what if uh the bill is somehow win the division is this I'm curious to know the update he's asking for the torch update the update okay same answer go listen I'll send you a link we're elder okay please don't be mean to your elderly co-hosts I just I want to know your emotions after the game Hank it's the same if we lose the division then it's and then we're gonna we can have a discussion about the torch okay the torch stays where it is yeah the torch is

Torch is ours. What's Drake's? You split the games. Hmm? You split the games this year. But we're going to, it's the division. Right. Right.

So whoever wins the division current Torchbearer. Yeah. Okay. How do you feel about the MVP race? How do I feel about it? Yeah. Did this swing you one way or the other? I think Matt Saffert are probably going to win.

Yeah, he's minus 300 right now in Draft Kings. Yeah. To win the MVP. How do you feel about it? Josh Allen, right? it got his odds got a lot better today that's awesome he went to plus 550 that's great yeah uh are you upset yeah okay good yeah good yeah good to say it be mad it's good to say open space it's not open space everything i see you guys just to deny but yeah i'm mad you're annoying what do we what do we

deny that you were being dickheads oh i know i said i just said that we're all dickheads okay yeah have you acknowledge that i was i was for one one second i was locked in on the bear's game i did no that was when you hit the dick heads i will i will i remember i remember everything me too dottington bones good max i don't care like you all you you have you have rights you like to like i don't care about you you can do it like you i i i fuck with you as much as i human max picket and p if you like to act that's fair okay that's friends that's fair that's fair And then when they get mad, they're like, and then if I say something about the Bears, Big Cowell will literally fucking cry.

I had no, I have no, I have no, wait. You're going to cry. When did I say I had a problem with you calling me a dickhead? I don't have a problem you calling me dickhead. I know, I'm just saying, like, you're, it's fine. You guys act like you don't troll. And then when I, I don't back, you cry. No, no, I, I told you exactly in the moment.

I said, I saw the tweet at the top might. Not to me. Yeah, I said that. You said that behind me. Well, I mean, you, you were in a, you were in a, you were in a very prickly mood. I wasn't going to say it to you were like talking loud enough where I could clearly hear you I well I didn't even I like whispered to I showed them the phone I should have you're right I should have said it directly to you right okay my bad listen the tough probably would have gone

really well the tough loss is in the gambling cave if I could hear you so it's like I knew you were talking about literally behind my back okay the tough loss in the gambling cave you have every right to lash out yeah because we're going to be big heads we're going to say things that sound like compliments but really aren't compliments we're going to we're going to do all the psychological warfare and yeah it does suck when you lose games like that yeah it's all right but it's okay but yeah patriots are fine patriots you know they did lose the one seed today we didn't have it going into this i just so i just didn't like the opportunity to have it if you had won and the and the broncos had lost we didn't lose it though we didn't have it i wasn't

trolling you all game i was barely i didn't talk to you all game i know i never said you were okay pft was i was no pft bet the patriot i was doing his like his long control but that fine. What long con? I was I was I was gambling on the Patriots. I know. I know. I'm not. What happened to our podcast we're going to do about the Pats? Do your pod. I have no issue with with your behavior during the game. It's it is, it's fine. After the game's slight issue. Just I don't care. I don't care. It's all whisper. Like you guys are being dickettes. I said your dickheads. Yeah. The whispering is. We are dickheads. Yeah. Yeah. We're all dickheads. Dyington boats. If it makes you feel, any better, Hank, the 20s.

21 Titans last loss of the regular season was also in week 15. Okay? Okay. So you can turn this right around just like to remember the Titans, Hank. Oh, Harold Landry made it like a sack in the first half of PFT. He's like, that's Harold Landry, a superstar player from the Titans when they got the one seat. Again, I've moved past the 300 set, so I'm not going to bring that up anymore. You guys have...

It's kind of broken containment because now whenever anyone throws for 300 yards, Hank and I I get tagged in a lot of tweets about it. But I just wanted to tell people stand down. I don't care about that. That number doesn't mean anything. It's an arbitrary line of the sand. Let's just focus on the playoffs. Let's win some playoff games, hang.

So, Hank, the Patriots still have a 63% chance to win the AFC East. If you just beat, I think if you just beat the Jets and Dolphins, you're in, you win the AFC East. Yeah. You can lose to the Ravens and still win the AFCs if you win. We've got to beat the Ravens. Are you worried about the Ravens? If you win those other two games.

They're a good team. I've said it all year. The teams with quarterbacks and coaches that have, you know, experience in the playoffs, like those are the teams that scare you, and the Bills and Josh Allen showed why. Are you worried about the Jets at all playing spoiler? Specifically memes. Like, that would be memes of Super Bowl. We're focused on the Ravens right now.

I'm not going to get ahead of myself. Okay. Have you napped? No. Okay. Have you blinked? Yes. How's left sooner ago?

It's all right. It's hard. It's not frustrating Friends of them right now I like this Hank's my boy Yeah He's all of our boys

Hank's my boy But the truest mark Of whether somebody Is actually your real boy Is if you root for them to fail When it comes to their sports teams That they love very much Mm-hmm

I have no issue with it I have no issue with it By the way Just do it to my face off by my back Okay But you were sitting in front of me Exactly We should have tapped you on the shoulder

Yeah I've been like hey Hey look There's a tweet that I saw. Hey, Grock on... What about the thing you said on the stream?

Do you stand by the thing you said in the stream that you said you weren't going to talk about in the podcast? What was that? What thing? Patriots are going to make a super rule. Well, Hank, that happened on the cave and I told you, man to man,

like this is not for the podcast, this is for the stream only. Sometimes you have to provide content that's stream only for the people that are tuning in. Got it. Otherwise, you hear it all in the podcast. That was exclusive for the stream.

Yeah, it was an exclusive. And was I saying it to reverse jinx you? who's to say it ended up working out that way but yeah I guess in my heart of hearts I'm a little bit I'm a little bit concerned

about the idea of owing you $50,000 I guess $42,000 I'd rather not owe you that money after the end of that game do you still think that off the record

off the podcast okay off podcast stream only my stream only thoughts on that I don't think the Patriots are going to make the Super Bowl this year I think if they get

the one seed they could yeah they can win two home playoff games and being the Super Bowl. I don't know if winning three. Three is hard. I agree. The buy is massive.

Yeah. Yeah. And the bill, listen, you got a 21-0-0-0-0-0-lead on the bills. That happened. That happened. It did happen. You got out to that lead. You got out to that lead.

Mr. First Quarter, Drake May lit it up. He had a great first half. The bills have such a funny list of this season. They've beaten Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, and Drake May. and they've lost to Davis, Mills, Tua, and Michael Pennix, and Drake, May. And Drake, yeah. But it's, it's, it's been, I don't really know what to make of this Bills team. They have Josh.

It's basically, if they have Josh Allen, they can get out of any problem. Is Josh Allen on his fuck shit? Yeah, he is, then they might win. Get you out of any problem, Josh Allen. But you don't want to be in too deep of a problem in the playoffs. That's why. If you go down 201-0 in the playoffs, that's a different, that feels like a different problem. That's why I feel like Josh Allen, he should be definitely in the playoffs.

the MVP consideration. Like if you took Josh Allen off the bills and replaced them with any other quarterback They're a bad team. They're a bad team. Yes. And with Josh Allen, they're going to compete for the, for the AFC. Well, they're going to compete for the division title. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Any last words? Baltimore. Beat Baltimore. Yeah. And that's Sunday night football. Yeah.

Yeah. Listen, you had been out of practice of losing. That is true. It had been a long time since you had to sit on the podcast and lose. What's your big? drought as a sports fan like in between championships uh we got to be close to getting into it now from the celtics to now no it was the celtics 2000 to the patriots or 2008 Celtics to the 2013 patriots is that it what about since since the pod started I don't know

It's nothing. Yeah. All right. Well, let's go to the next game. This was, I mean, bad news because Patrick Mahomes got hurt, but good news the chiefs have been eliminated. Chargers, 16, Chiefs 13. Patrick Mahomes does have what seems like a torn ACL.

So he is, which sucks a lot. Per Adam Schaefter, the chiefs and Mahomes are exploring surgical options. So he has a torn ACL. Yeah, torn ACL. Yes. And they'll be exploring surgery for it. Yes. So they're eliminated.

The Kansas City Chiefs have been. eliminated from the playoffs for the first time since 2014 this podcast has never done a show without the chiefs in the playoffs yep um it's pretty crazy the run they they have had the seven years from 2018 till obviously this year is the eighth year but for those seven years they went to seven straight conference championship games five super bowls one three of them insane insane run very similar to the patriots run but now it is over for at least this year year because they will not be in the playoffs and Patrick Burhomes, which sucks, will probably miss some time next year, I would assume. Probably, yeah. Probably missed the beginning of next year.

I guess it all depends on how bad the tear is if it is the ACL and then what they have to do to it, but there's a chance you could get back to start the season. Yeah. But probably more likely that he'll come back after it started, but be there for the majority of it. What's crazy is that this will be the first time that the AFC championship game doesn't have either Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady as a quarterback in it since 2010. That's crazy. How nuts is that? That's when it was Ben

Rathlisberger and Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez. Yeah. Mark Sanchez of the Jets. It's been, this is like truly the end of an era. It sucks that Mahomes tore his ACL. I thought it was like a little bit of a dirty hit that he got taken out on. Yeah. But Mahomes also keeps plays alive. He does keep plays alive. So it sucks

that he tore his ACL. The NFL is way more fun when Mahomes is playing. it kind of took some of the joy out of celebrating for all the Chiefs haters. Yeah. It was harder to truly enjoy the moment. Finally, the Chiefs and Mahomes are not going to be in the playoffs

to steal everybody else's joy. Oh, yeah, he tore's ACL. That's kind of a bummer. When they were going down the field, so they, you know, it weirdly left that little glimmer of, well, if they had scored there and won that game, could they have gone to the playoffs? They weren't eliminated until losing this game.

Patrick Mahomes will not take a snap with his team eliminated. He's never taking a snap with his team eliminated. That's that now becomes moot because he obviously was out of the game after Gardner Minchu came in and threw the interception. Hank, this has got a, I mean, no chiefs in the playoffs. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I feel bad for Patrick Mahomes and the injury. Yeah, that sucks. That was a shitty way.

It's, it's kind of tough. It's, I guess, similar. I don't know, obviously way different circumstances. He didn't commit a crime. He's not in jail. But it's probably similar to like Ohio State fans where it's like you can't, it feels, kind of feel bad like making fun of the situation.

With Michigan? No, they don't feel bad at all. Wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. It is crazy, though. You see everyone talking about how, you know, Brady in his whatever was won three Super Bowls and then it's an eighth year towards ACL.

I think this is Mahomes technically is 19. year because he didn't start, obviously, his first year. Tears his ACL, difference being Brady towards ACL in week one. Mahomes does it in week 15, which is going to take a little longer to come back for next year. But yeah, it is, it is weird having both the Chiefs out of the playoffs and then having Mahomes have that injury, which sucks because Patrick Mahomes, like, like selfishly, I was like, oh, Christmas night is ruined.

Right, right. That's going to stink. Like, we're not that we don't like Gardner Minchu. Minchu on Christmas, actually. that could he kind of looks christ-like yeah yeah but it's it stinks and i feel really bad for patrick mohomes because that sucks to have uh injury like that and have to rehab for the entire off season after what was already kind of a season from hell we're probably going to get a big documentary about his his workouts his rehab the state farm commercial where he's in the

training room is going to be kind of awkward to look at yep and and that was probably the last time patrick homes and travis kelsey play on the same football field i feel like the chiefs are going to be a different looking team next time they step on the field. Oh, they need a full reset. They're going to have pickings. Yeah. Or not pickings. They're going to have, uh, they're going to have pits. Pits. Somehow. Somehow. They are in cap hell going in this off season. But I think they could probably just be like, hey, Mahomes, can we just restructure your contract? Yeah. Give you a lot of money up front and he'd be like, yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Yeah, that works. As for the Chargers,

the Chargers are just tough as nails. They just win ugly games, rock fights. The two teams combined were 11 for 27 on third downs today. The game basically swung, though, with Justin Herbert throwing that touchdown pass at the end of the half. When the Chiefs were up, what was the 13-3, it felt like the Chiefs were going to roll them. It felt like everything was going to be good in Chiefsland, and then Justin Herbert goes down the field,

scores that touchdown, makes it a three-point game going to half, and then it was just, yeah, let's just rock fight all the way to the end. The defense for the Chargers stepped up in the second half, too. Two big interceptions at the end of the game. It went punt, punt, pick, pick. Those are the Chiefs' four possessions in the second half. I loved what Harbaugh said after the game. Did you read his quote?

No, what he said. He goes, it's a ball team. There it is. This is a ball team. Yep. Starting to think this is my favorite ball team that I've ever been on. Yep. I've been on a lot of teams.

None better than this team. It's a ball team. A real ball team. I think the Chargers has got to be the number one ball team. They got to be the number one ball team. I got Chargers, Detroit Pistons are a ball team. team. Mm-hmm.

The 49ers are a ball team. Yep. The Saints might be a ball team. There's a difference. The Saints are a ball team, yeah. You don't think the Saints are a ball team? No, I do. Hank shook his head.

I don't really understand what the, the, yeah, actually, yeah, you know what, yeah, I do, I do. They're a ball team. Harbaugh said this is the best ball team. My favorite ball team I've ever been on. There's just a ball team. There's a difference between a great team and a ball team. Right. He's not saying they're great at football.

Yeah. This is just a ball team. They just fight for everything. Every, every moment is going to be tough. Like that's just what the Chargers do I mean Justin Herbert has been sacked 11 times the last two games Justin Herbert needs to get all the credit He's playing with a broken hand

He Justin Herbert has been sacked four plus times in a game Six times this year The Chargers record in those games five and one Yeah That's a ball team that's a ball quarterback They're 5 and 0 in the division I don't think the Chargers have ever gone 5 and 0 To start the season inside their division right now

And it's the first time they've swept the Chiefs since 2014, which also was the last time the Chiefs didn't, you know, miss the playoffs. Yeah. So, yeah, it's a true ball team. I don't know if they can go to the Super, but I know that they can just muck it up with anyone and make anything a game. That's really what they've, like, proven to do, especially in the last two wins. They're physical.

Very physical. Very physical. Yeah, just gutty performance from Justin Herbert again. If he, I was thinking if he gets married, he should actually, he should take Madison's name. Oh, Justin Beer? Justin Beer would be an awesome name to have. Justin Beer would be so sick.

Yeah. So the Chiefs will play the last three games. It's meaningless, which that actually does hurt you a little, Hank, because they do play the Broncos on Christmas night. And I saw this stat. In Mike Tomlin's 19 seasons with the Steelers, he's played a total of one meaningless game eliminated from the playoffs. That's pretty cool.

One, one single game. But yeah, also, Christian. Jones didn't realize that he was eliminated until he was at the podium. Oh, that's a tough moment. That's a tough moment right there. For them to tell you to let you know that, hey, you guys are out of the playoffs. I mean, if you're on the Chiefs, you don't expect to ever be eliminated. You're just like, what do you mean this game is meaningless?

Yeah. What do you mean? Tank? Yeah. Because it was just, I mean, I lost money on the Chiefs the last time this year. That would be one nice thing because I did, I did think they were just going to keep getting off the mat. I thought they were going to win this game. They were probably going to win this game.

Pat from Holmes doesn't tear his ACL. I don't know. Maybe not, though, because the Chargers are a ball team. Yep. Bills fan's got to be the happiest. Bills. Why? Oh, yeah. First playoffs without Patrick Mahomes with it. Yeah. Yeah. If they do, if the Bills do win the Super Bowl this year, it's actually going to be sneaky, like, a good thing for Chiefs fans.

Well, yeah, now that they're out of it. They could be like, yeah, the one year that we weren't in. Now that they're out of it. Yeah. So I wonder if any Chiefs fans are going to be rooting for the Bills. That would be mean. Probably not root for them, but, like, they, you. have that big, big ace in the hole if the bills do win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, it just didn't have to go through Kansas City. Yeah. And at least we don't have to watch the Eagles and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl again. Yeah. So America wins. If you go all the way back to 1998, this is the first playoffs since 1998 that won't feature Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Patrick Mahomes. All three of those guys have been in every single NFL playoffs since 1990.

Or at least one of those three guys, I mean, have been in the playoffs since 1998. I think Mahomes will be fine. Yeah. He'll fight back. That is the one thing with these ACL injuries, they're not like they used to be. I mean, in that you can bounce back.

Like, it's not, he will, the one thing that sucks for the Chiefs is they will probably not be very good next year too. That is one thing that you can, like, Mahomes is going to come back later than probably the start of the season.

And we've seen with the ACL injuries, you're not 100% for a little bit. So that, that's where, like it's, not only you get eliminated for the playoffs, but next year's looking like it's going to be an uphill battle as well.

Yeah, maybe bring Matt Castle back. That's what the Patriots did. Yeah. Gardner Minshew, Christmas night. That's going to be fun. I do think it's going to be fun. Gardner, Mitchu is a very, very fun backup. That's going to be a fun time.

At least we have that. So, Hank, no Moehm's. No, Mojams, yeah. Even if he had not torn his ACL, the chiefs who were eliminated. Yeah. So you can just separate the two. I was right.

podcast. What did you say? Chiefs aren't going to make the playoffs. Yeah, you did. Yeah. PFT eliminated him like three weeks ago. Yeah. I think on Thanksgiving, right? Yeah. You eliminated that. You eliminated their ass. Yep. They did have just... First report. So many games where you're just like, what is happening this season? Yeah, it's got to be the most frustrating season in a very long time for Chiefs fans. You could have had them as your piggy team. I know. That's true. Thanks. I've been reminded of it a lot. Appreciate it. I really, I really regret whispering that tweet to you during the gambling cave. You think that he's just...

Yeah, I do. I regret it. He just silent one. I wish he'd go back in time and take it back. I mean, he was just pointing out that it was at the top of the timeline. And then I pointed... You know what? I whispered to Big Cat. I was like, look at this.

It was that Grock on X.com, the AI machine, it had the recap of the Patriots Bills game. And it was Patriots win in a blowout because Patriots were up at half time. And that's when it grabbed us. That's where I was showing that to Big Cat. I didn't feel like saying it out loud because I was like, hey, Hank's down bad. right now.

Yeah, I didn't want to... Our hungry dog just lost and I didn't want to rub it in. Me and you were in lockstep today. We had like all the same best. Always. Always locked step. Always lock step.

All right. Max, memes. Actually, I'm curious to know memes's thoughts. At least we got the touchdown parley. What? Are you rooting against it right now? No, no. Our legs hit.

Oh, I like that. I like that. Now he's rooting against it. Yeah. Memes, as a hater. You're right. We did. What are your thoughts on the Chiefs missing the playoffs?

I was the first one to report it. When? A couple episodes before you reported it. Oh, wow. Really? So I copied your report? You copied the report. Wow.

Wow. I'm sorry. I said it and then you guys were like, are you sure? Patrick Mahomes? I was just like, yeah, fuck it. It is a big day for the people who have been predicting the Chiefs to not make the playoffs every year for the last five years. That's why it sucks so much, though, that Mahomes got hurt. Obviously, it sucks that he got hurt, but it sucks even worse that nobody can take as much joy.

it yeah as this day that everyone's been waiting for it no i know chiefs get to hide be like hey my my our quarterback got her yeah stay classy yeah come on stay classy you can't fucking celebrate it's true it should have been a celebratory day it was not yeah i got a i got a text from kirk goldsbury earlier and it was just a uh a picture of an internet comment that was uh somewhere dylan raoul is jumping violently up and down in his apartment trying to injure his knee i thought that was a pretty funny take on it that is a funny take yeah uh okay next game raven's 24 what What, Max, what were you going to say? No, it was me.

I actually like the Chiefs. I'm not a hater of the Chiefs. Really? They were casting a shadow over the Patriots dynasty, so I liked the Chiefs. They were, they were doing you a favor. I kind of have the same tape.

I don't really hate the Chiefs either. I didn't really have any feelings for them, other than they were just really good. I wanted to see Patriots Chiefs in the first round. I thought that would have been a fun game to watch. The only time I really hated the Chiefs was when the Bears still had Mitch, but we're like three quarterbacks on from that. So, because that was everyone was like,

Oh, Mitch and Patrick Mahomes. That's forever ago. I never really hated the Chiefs. I just wanted to see Josh Allen get to a Super Bowl. And then I did not want to see another matchup of the Chiefs and the Eagles in the Super Bowl last year. Actually, Max, you got, you broke the Chiefs. For now. Yeah, I wouldn't hate the Chiefs if I were you either.

As a national sports podcast, I think we put a lot of respect on the Chiefs for the most part. Hank, did you hate the Chiefs? Yeah. Okay. Do you hate me? No. Okay. Do you hate me?

No. That one was a little different. I love you, Hank. I love you too. I love you. I love you. Okay, Ravens 24 Bengals Zero. Don't want the Bengals in the playoffs.

We didn't. There it is. No, we did not. The Bengals got the day off to an interesting start by not shoveling their stadium entirely. Yes. Not cleaning off the seats of snow. Who, Florio being on that was the absolute best. He was all over it, all over it.

And I guess the Bengals were saying that it's easy enough for fans to brush the snow off their own seats. We're going to prioritize the aisles and cleaning up the concourses. That was a big controversy in, uh, in, in, in, in, in Florio's mind before the game started. But then after the game started, it was just a shit kicking. The Bengals look bad. Joe Burrow did not play with joy today. He said Joe Burrow said no team would have won with me as their quarterback today. Yeah. So he was very honest about it. It was the, the, the perfect, I want to say perfect because Bengals fans, obviously this has been a terrible season, but it was the perfect encapsulation of the Bengals that your defense finally submitted

and they've been playing better recently but your defense played well and the Ravens only had 40 plays of offense and your offense had no points and that was the first time in Joe Burroughs career that he started and finished a game and got shut out. Got shut out. He had a couple bad interceptions. That one that Aloha Gilman had though was awesome.

The runback is Calvanoi picked it off and then he was just like, here you take it. Take it. You're faster than me. Instead of throwing a lateral, he was just like, you are a young man. Please run. I cannot run. You have it. I'll just.

He watched. He had the best seat in the house afterwards. Yeah, but it was, so Lamar stays perfect, week 15 and later. So 16 and 0 now, week 15 regular season. So regular season games. The Bengals are out. The Ravens maybe found a little something in terms of identity where their defense is playing well. And, you know, they're running the football.

Derek Henry had 100 yards, only on 11-k. mar didn't have to throw the ball much it does feel like their offense still isn't like back to peak lamar but maybe they found something maybe yeah and i was actually kind of hoping for the crazy scenario where they would they would win the division with seven wins that would have been funny but now they've got a big game against the patriots next sunday then at the packers and then at the steelers to close out their season yeah i i have no idea how that's going to shape i The Ravens are the one team in the NFL that I genuinely cannot figure out. I can't either.

They're so weak to week. I don't know which team's going to show up. Yeah. I thought that the Bengals would at least compete. I didn't think it was going to be a blowout either way. But I have no idea what to admit. If they lost to the Patriots by 30 points next week and then beat the Packers like 17 to 10, that would not surprise me at all.

Yeah. The Ravens could go to the Super Bowl and not make the playoffs. Both would be like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Makes perfect. Do we think Zach Taylor might be done? It feels like it might be with Joe Burroughs comments, which he then clarified today saying he wasn't talking about the organization.

He was just talking about his fun with football. He also had a closed door meeting with the team, which no one has talked about yet. But yeah, doesn't it feel? Jack Taylor also had a tough one where he was asked afterwards, what are your thoughts on the team's effort? And he said, we held them to three points in the second half. The Ravens did score 10 points.

I guess they technically did hold them to three points because there was the pick six. Yep. But still, I don't know. I feel like Zach Taylor might be the sacrificial lamb of this terrible, terrible Bengals season. So his contract runs through 2026. It doesn't matter. I feel like you don't think so?

No, contracts for coaches? For the Bengals coaches? Yeah, maybe, but not really still. If Joe Burroughs unhappy, because how much they pay them? They're probably not paying them a lot. I think even for the Bengals, I would say that they're probably going to let him coach it out. I think it does make a big difference for them. You think that he's going to, you don't think he's going to be fired one year left?

I think they would, I think they're fired. If Joe Burroughs not happy and he's like, hey, it's Zach Taylor, he's gone. He has to be gone. I just got a text. I just got a text from our dear close personal friend, Chris Berman. Oh, yeah, I got the same one. Yeah. He said sound bite for you.

when we interviewed in May you asked me for a bold prediction I said the bills won't play Kansas City in January Don't know why But well it's true Yep Cred to the Swam That's why they call him the Swam

He is Saw into the Crystal Ball So memes actually You have to credit Chris Berman Yeah you copy Chris Berman Yep So say thank you to Chris Berman Thank you Chris

Thanks there you go Yeah I feel like Zach Taylor I think he'll probably stick around for next year. Although he, I think any other franchise, he would definitely be on the hot seat. Yeah. Whose line is it anyway? Next week, Sunday night football, Patriots Ravens in Baltimore, on Draft Kings.

Whose lines anyway? I'm going to guess. I know what it is. You do? Ravens minus two and a half? That's what I was going to say. It was one and a half a few hours ago. I'll double check right now.

Is it two and a half now? Okay. Hungry dog? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Go right back to it. What were the other legs in the Harvard Day? You had Saints, right?

Saints. Saints. Saints. Okay. Next game. Bears 31, Browns 3. Bears are 10 and 4. That was a, that was an ass kicking.

And it was, I loved that it was an ass kicking because it was just a take care of business type of game. Yeah. Caleb played awesome. That throw to DJ Moore, one of the coolest throws ever. I don't know. I still don't know how he did that. And he was asked afterwards if it was like just. a prayer and he said no I can make that throw I can make any throw I can make any throw

because when you let go of it it seemed like the kind of throw that coaches don't want to see you make but it was perfect I guess in a game like this against the browns ben Johnson probably gave him the latitude like just go out there and make fucking plays dude yeah and the and the offense looked good this was the first time the bears have had a complete game win in uh I don't even know I because we've won so many games like where you know quarters have looked bad and we win by the you know by a block field or whatever may be. This was a complete game win where the offense looked good. The defense was taking the ball away. The defense looked good. That probably has a lot to do with the Browns being bad

offensively and their offensive line being completely broken and out. But yeah, it felt good. It was like a no-doubter. The only bad things that happened in this game was Luther Burden got hurt. I think Colquette's okay. He's obviously important. And both those guys are important because Luther Burden looked really good. And then Adunze got hurt in warm-ups, which keeps happening to the Bears. They're training staff. Something's going on. What happened in warm-ups? What was the...

I don't know. But this happened to Kyle Gordon last week. Tried to warm up. Now he's on IR. But I'm not going to look at negatives. And we don't have to talk a lot about this game because it was such an ass kicking. And it was like, there was a little part of me when I woke up this morning. He was like, ooh, don't let the Browns hang around.

And they didn't. Not at all. It was just a complete, like, no doubter. DeAndre Swift has been awesome. Picked off to Shador three times. Shador got unlucky with the one that, that, uh, Jalen Johnson picked off in the end zone. That was insane.

That was a perfect pass. You should have been a touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. Also with the Browns, Shador got the wrong wristband to start the game. I don't know how that happens. Crazy. Do you...

Are they actually sabotaging Shador? I don't know. They gave him a wristband with the wrong plays on it. Now, I put that on the team and then I put it on Shador for not realizing until like three minutes into the game that he had the wrong plays on his wristband. Yes. That's got to be a nightmare where like your coach is calling down, like you're getting the play call. You're looking at your wristband, and you're so new to the NFL that you're like,

am I fucking this up? Yeah, what's going on here? He probably thought he was fucking it up for a while. But that's a very Brown's thing to happen. Very Brown's thing to happen. Miles Garrett, 21 and a half sacks. He's won away from tying the record. It's kind of crazy.

He's doing it for a three-win team. Yeah. For a three-win team that's getting blown out. Yeah, because the Browns, we talked about it, they don't get, they keep, they are competitive for halves. Yeah. They were not competitive. They had, I think there was at one point, the bears had more first downs than the Browns had plays.

Yeah. That was how, like, we're watching the game. I was like, have the Browns? They had one big pass somewhere in the second quarter. And other than that, I don't think they had a first down for like the first three quarters. What I like to prove that Caleb can play in the cold. Oh, yeah. It was fucking cold weather quarterback.

He was very cool. No, he looked so comfortable and it was awesome to see. And again, it's the complete victory that we've, that's kind of been eluding the bears where they just took care you the browns are bad so it's not like a walk around been like do you see that but if you want to be a good team you got to beat the shit out of bad teams and not let bad teams hang around and that's exactly what the bears did and now the swings in the nfc standings are just insane the bears went from after after beating the eagles on black friday they went to the one seed then they went all the way down to the seven seed after losing the packers then they're all the way

back up to the two seat now. And I think it's going to change like four more times because we have big games against the Packers on Saturday, then the 49ers, then the Lions. Everything's still on the table. The Bears still could not make the playoffs. I think I am fairly confident they will because I think they're a very good team. But everything is still on the table for, which is pretty crazy to say for a 10 and 14. A very good team. Yeah. The Bears have upgraded to very, where are you at on a scale one to 10? I think they're a very good team. No, but where are you at personally? Oh, I've been at like a nine and a half for a long time. Nine and a half. Yeah, yeah. I've been saying that. I've been walking around and I, six out of ten went away so long ago. I think it was probably

Steelers game. That was way longer. Next week is such a big game. Huge game. Such a big game. Massive, because that was a shitty loss last week and now you get to do it again with the Packers. And the Niners game is going to be massive because of the NFC standings and like where the Niners are at. So you guys go two and one year in the playoffs no matter what? I believe. I believe. leave two and one's in the playoffs no matter what i think one and two you could it could be a problem yeah so like i said it's i i said this i think last week or the week before like there could very well be an 11 win team that doesn't make the nFC playoffs do you think that kaleb's going to get to 4 000 yards uh probably not and i don't really care okay

like that's obviously something eventually he will he will do but i yeah this season has been so much fun i don't that that that that i haven't thought about 4 000 yards i just didn't look at where he was at, but he's had a good season, so I didn't know if that was in the realm of possibility. Also, the stat, which was pretty crazy, he is, uh, let me pull it up. He has thrown the fewest interceptions of any quarterback in NFL history through his first thousand passes. That's pretty good. 12 interceptions through the first, first thousand passes. That's really good. Yeah. Yeah, he's playing well. And it, again, just a complete victory is nice to see. Do we think, I love Kevin Stavansky. I think he's a very good coach. It probably feels.

like this might be it. So I feel like Stefansky, you'd be doing him a favor almost by firing. Yeah, I think he probably wants to start something fresh because it's got to be really shitty to coach the Browns. Yeah, I think he'd probably get hired immediately if he was fired. Yeah. I think he would probably last like a week. How, like, what is this Miles Garrett celebration going to look like?

Because obviously he's an insane player. He's a Hall of Famer. He's had an incredible season. But there's a good chance he breaks this record, like, on a Sunday afternoon when the Browns are down 24 to 7. Yeah, I mean, the Brown season, the Brown season is pretty much like get Miles Garrett the single season sack record and then hope that Shador has the right wristband on.

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Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply. Okay. Speaking of easy, beating the shit out of teams, Eagles 31 Raiders Zero. Max, felt good, right? Oh, we haven't had a win like that all year. We had talking about. We finally got Little Game Max.

We got Little Game Max, and we got Little Game Max, and we had Chattie Max, and it was a joy to be around. It felt good. It felt good. The Raiders are horrendous, so I'm not going to look too much into it. They're the worst team in the league. They're horrendous. I honestly, I know we've had this disagreement, PFT. The Raiders are the worst team in the league.

I do not think that there's a debate for it. I agree. The Raiders are so much fun to play against. Every team should get to play against the Raiders. shaking your head today's Jets are the worst I dude the Raiders what do you talk the Raiders had 75 yards

that's total they had seven first downs memes let me just repeat that 75 yards that's not like that was their one quarter that was the whole game they had 29 yards passing memes 75 yards and this isn't the first remember the same thing with the chiefs

where they had like three first downs they are one of the worst teams like ever it's crazy watching them play I'd take it back yeah yeah the 75 yards you didn't see that 75 yards is

that's so hard to do and Brandon Graham looked like he was 22 years old today it was crazy he was flying around yeah can he picket we've had this this conversation I think Kenny Pickett is now the most sackable

starting quarterback in the NFL yeah he's so sackable yeah that's I mean Pete Carroll's got to be in hell. I don't know why he's still coaching. Max Crosby's got to be in hell. Max Crosby's getting upset. I feel so bad for that guy. I do too. The Eagles put in their backup offense with like a quarter to play. The Eagles backup offense memes had 79 yards.

They just ran out the entire fourth quarter. Yeah. They had four more yards in the starting offense for the Raiders. Suriani finally listened to the people of Philadelphia and he benched Jalen Hertz and put Tanner McKee in the game. who looked great, right, Max? Yeah, he did look good. Tanner McGee did look good. He did look good. I mean, J. Helens did look good, too. The entire offense looked good. A.J. Brown looked good. Cut a touchdown today.

Dallas Goddert had an awesome game. Yeah. It's just playing the Raiders makes you feel so good about your team. But Max, they should force the Raiders to play against every team in the NFL so that we can all have a week where we think to ourselves like, oh, football is fun. Yeah. Right? There was the largest shutout win for the Eagles in 35 years. Max, even though this is the Raiders.

and they're terrible. We were saying it during the game. Two years ago, when you guys had your collapse, you lost to a four-win Cardinals team, like, at home. So this is this. It was three wins at the time. It made it their fourth- But this is like, you don't, obviously,

you're not like, oh, everything's fixed, but beating teams that are bad, this soundly is what good teams should do. Yeah, it felt good. It felt good. We haven't watched the offense look that way in a while. and the Raiders offense, I should have known. I was nervous going into this game just because we haven't seen it.

The Raiders offense never was going to have a chance against Eagles defense. Eagles defense is still very, very good, and they proved that again today. They were doing some creative play calling, which was nice to see. Two shovel pass touchdowns, which, you know, at least it's a little motion. It's something a little different than the vanilla offense that it has looked like for most of this season. It was good to see, but it's a fucking raider, so I'm not going to, I'm not going to, like, think everything is fixed. The four highest passer ratings in a game this season. Can you guys name the four quarterbacks?

Four highest passer rating games this season. Passer ratings are dumbst that. It is a, not QBR, we're talking passer rating, the one that's like 158.3 or whatever? Yeah. Hank, you want to take guess? Daniel Jones against the Raiders No do you want to take a guess Hank Drake May

He is one of them He's the third highest Jared Goff is the second highest Jalen Hertz The fourth and the first Are Jalen Hertz Wow He has two of the top four

Passer rating games On the season Today was the fourth high I disagree I think it's a good stat It is good stack I disagree with what you said He looked really good today He and he said afterward

Everybody needs to remember Where I come from And how I'm built Yeah all the people who were talking about the, you know, taking a shit, puking, running around five times, and then throwing the ball straight into the ground. That was a statistical analysis, Max. That was numbers.

That wasn't me casting any judgment on Jalen Hertz. Super Bowl champion Jailen Hurts who you turned your back on after like three weeks of this season. Throwing the entire offense under the bus. I did not turn my back on. Did you guys start the game off by standing ovation? I don't know. couldn't we it was there was no volume to that game but I was looking sound I was trying to look for it and the broadcast didn't show it yeah and I couldn't hear anything so I don't

the answer is no I don't know so yeah probably no yeah whatever happened today worked it might have been just playing against the Raiders but it worked yeah shout out the Raiders the Raiders shout out you guys they're awesome grong said it afterwards they're like neo sporn you put it and heal all your cuts of loops. That's true. That's a good quote. I can see Gronk having like a cough, like a chest cold and he just like put some neosporn on his gums.

Yeah. By the way, should we, so the Raiders, should we pull up Tankathon? Because now it's a battle between the Titans, Raiders, and Giants, the two win teams for the first overall pick. Who do we think is going to get the first overall pick? Here are the schedules. Titans play the Chiefs, the Saints, and at the Jaguars. The Raiders play at Giants.

sorry, at Texans versus Giants versus Chiefs. And then the Giants play the Vikings at Raiders, Cowboys. It's basically to come down to the Raiders' Giants game. I think the Titans. They should flex that game. I agree. You think the Titans are going to get? Yeah.

I think so. Yeah. Would you say there's a tiebreaker, though? No, the Titans don't have the tiebreaker right now. But the Raiders beat the Titans, didn't they? No, I think it goes off of win percentage, or strength of schedule. Oh, it's not, they don't do head to head. No, and the Giants and Raiders play each other, so one of those teams is going to be out,

and the other one is probably going to get the first pick. Doing reverse head-to-head would be a very funny way. Like if it's tied, well, the team that lost that game, you're clearly the worst. Yeah. Yeah, looking at the Titans schedule. I feel like the Titans are going to, the Chiefs should beat them, I think. Yeah. The Saints, Tyler Shuck.

I mean, Shuckster. And the Jaguars might be the best team in football right now. Yeah. They might not be playing for anything. So that might be your chance for the Titans to win. That's true. Jaguars could be firmly. But that culture in Jacksonville is so strong.

It is so strong. It probably goes too deep. All right. Congrats, Max. Easy win. Felt good. Everyone should play the Raiders. The Raiders are so bad.

They're just an abysmal, abysmal team to watch play football. Memes, did you get to play the Raiders? No. You should. You should write a letter. Bears barely beat the Raiders. Yeah, but that was a great game. That was like, that was a game where your offense clicked.

Yeah, but it was a tough win. Yeah. I mean, the Raiders, I guess, we're still fighting a little bit back then. Pete Carroll's got to retire, right? I think so. What do you do? Like, this is, this has to be the most miserable experience. I guess there's going to be the possibility of the Raiders getting the number one pick,

and then he might have, like, Mendoza to fuck around with. And that would, I actually think that's when you want to fire him. Right, but I, if you're saying, like, if he's going to retire, I think he would want to stick around. I don't know if Tom Brady's going to want him to stick around. Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. Commanders 29, Giants 21. Congrats PFT. Oh, also real quick with the Raiders. How about Alex Guerrero now being like the official guy with the Raiders? Yeah. Yeah, he's been all season. Yeah. He's like Brady's eyes and ears on the inside right now.

Yes. It's going well. Commanders 29, Giants 21. Yeah, we don't really have to talk about this game that much. It was fun to win one. Yeah. That's my takeaway from him. I told you you were going to win this game. It was fun to win one. Mariotto look good. Bill ran the ball really well today. I think I've switched of being of the mindset, like, ideally I would like to lose the games and get a better draft pick, but I think it's more important to go out and play well. Yeah. And to show that Dan Quinn hasn't actually lost the locker room. And Jalen Lane, another punt return touchdown for him today. He's awesome. A lecture. He's somebody that we can build around. Shout out Ben Sennett,

former low man trophy winner. He looked good today. And yeah, I thought, I thought for the most part, it was a pretty balanced game. Jackson Dart, he's dangerous, but sometimes he does throw his body around he went to the blue tent again today five out of ten games five out of ten games that's a lot of blue ten he's gone out he came out he was not too banged up so we got back at the game we got to see one snap of jamis which was cool and uh yeah the uh the team's still playing hard so credit to them uh it was it was fun to win one yeah good to not continue that losing streak and if it's a division rival i feel like there's always value in and beating them twice in a year Yeah, and the Texan, or sorry, the Giants, Abdul Carter looked good for the first time.

Like, it's kind of his welcome to the NFL. Oh, yeah, that's why you drafted him. That's what we were promised. Yeah. He was all over the place. I think he had two strip sacks. One, they recovered. But, yeah, the Giants are just, they should just try to lose.

They should, they should try. Although, what did I guess trade the first pick? I don't know what to make a Jackson dart. I'm going to say that right now. I think he's good, but the guy's in the blue tent way too much. Yeah, all the time. I don't know what, I don't know what you do with that because part of the reason why he's good is because he makes plays with his feet and he keeps plays alive and he puts himself in precarious situations. I just don't know.

I don't think that you can get a coach that's going to be able to tell him to stop playing like that. He's basically like, fuck you. That's all I play. Have you ever watched me play football? Watch me play football in middle school. I'm the exact same guy. Exactly same guy. Yeah.

He does feel that way. But he's fun. I like watching him play. Who's he dating? He's getting some, some celebrity, right? Isn't he? I don't know. Zach?

I think, like, dating rumors. Who's he dating rumors? Rumors is the name of the girl? No, I don't know if there's anything any girl confirmed. Oh, I thought it was like a famous person. I don't think, I don't think anything confirmed. Got it. Just rumors.

I think so. A lot of tweets. Yeah, because I just see the Scatabo memes where it's like Jackson Dart is dating this person while Scatibo drinks chocolate milk out of a shoe. They got a lot of, I think it's a lot of Alex Earle's rumor out. rumors out there. Oh. Okay. I think it was fake DMs. I think they were leaking fake DMs. Oh. Okay. You should be on that beat for us. Yeah. You should be ahead of that beat. Yeah. It was all the force, all AI. T.M. Zach. You can be, you can be on top of that for us.

I can run that for you. Yeah. Love that. Max, I'll see you next week. Yeah. How are you feeling, boys? Are you nervous about the commanders? Maybe Mariotta. I'm so, I'm so glad that the Eagles won this game because they're going to be so happy riding high. Where's the game? The game is in D.C. D.C., yep. Yep. No, Zach, I think you can confirm this. The Eagles are going to win by like 40 points next week, right?

I think it's anybody's game. We've got to see what happens in this Cowboys game. Are you a little nervous about this game, Max? Cowboys, oh, yeah. No, no, not the Cowboys. Depends on what happens in this Cowboys game. The Cowboys lose, you're not nervous? Then we just got to win one out of the next three.

But still, you don't want to lose the PFT, right? You never want to lose. You don't want to lose anyone. You don't want to lose to anyone. Do you think, uh, I don't know, whoa, do you think Jaden will be playing? I have, I forgot his name for a second. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Oh, no. I have no idea. I have no idea if he's going to play. Do you want him to play? No, I don't think so. There's no chance that he's 100% healthy. So you want Marriota revenge game? Yeah.

I mean, Marietta is a more than capable backup quarterback. I think that if Jaden's 100% yes, I want to play. But I don't think that he is. I don't think that he's going to be. But every, you know what pisses me off? Every time I see Terry McLaren out on the field catching balls and scoring touchdowns, I just wish that I could have seen more of that this year with Jaden on the field at the same time. They haven't really gotten to play that much together.

It's a bummer. But Terry McLaren's still very good. Yeah. He had a touchdown today. It's big. Okay. Texans 40, Cardinals 20. This is another one ass kicking.

Texans are really good. Their offense looked great today. C.J. Straub probably had one of his best games, I think second best game of the season. He was pretty much perfect. Nico Collins was as efficient as you can be. I think he had four targets, four catches, 85 yards and two touchdowns. The game was over immediately. Immediately.

Immediately. They were up 17-0, 9 minutes into the game. They kicked the ball off and like the first play of the game. It was like, okay, Texans are going to stop them. The Texans are a really good team. They're a dangerous, dangerous team, especially if their offense can look like it, today because that's really all that that like everyone knows their defense is going to be keep them in every game is cj stroud can get comfortable and look like cj stroud from a

couple of years ago that's a dangerous team and they get a new running back now yeah well joar jordan uh nick chub got is hurt uh we don't know where joe mixon is and then woody marks got hurt again i'd like somebody to check on joe mixon i'm concerned now he's probably hanging out with Brandon Iyuk somewhere. Yeah, Jawar Jordan. I think that this was his first game this year, right? His first touches. He went off for 101 yards.

Woody Marks is awesome, but he gets banged up every game. He does, yeah. He's always in the tent. But everything about the Texans' offense look great today. Everything about the Cardinals' defense looked terrible today. Cardinals are done. They already were done, but it feels like Jonathan Gannon's going to get fired. They got to figure out.

They're basically, I think they're in the third year of a rebuild. and now it's resetting to another rebuild. The rebuilds kind of overlap. Yeah. Trey McBride is awesome. So he, back-to-back, 100-catch thousand-yard seasons, which Travis Kelsey never, like, it's insane what he's done as a tight end. He had 12 catches today.

He also broke the NFL Travis Kelsey streak for consecutive games with five plus receptions for a tight end, 16 straight games. Yeah. He's awesome. So that's cool. That's a good thing. that the Cardinals have. Everything else sucks.

The Cardinals have like one or two pieces. Right. Michael Wilson's awesome. In the Cardinals' wildest dreams, like what is your perfect off-season as a Cardinals fan? Probably Fire Gannon. Yep. Figure out a way to trade Kyler Murray. Yep.

Hope that a quarterback gets to you in the draft. Yep. Hire Josh McDaniels. Oh. He's going to get another shot. You think so? Yeah, owners love, love a guy that's failed twice. Spectacularly failed twice.

And McDaniels should stay with the Patriots. But you think he's going to get another shot? I think he might. That would be an interesting. I think he'll take it. I don't know. He shouldn't. I don't think he would.

No, I don't know if he would either. Because he's taking two jobs that the, I think he'd need a really good quarterback that he believes. Well, maybe it's just that, okay, if you look at his pass, he went to the Raiders. He went to the Broncos under their old ownership. Yeah. He needs a place that has stability from the top down, the Arizona Cardinals. Yes. No, everyone thinks that about the Arizona Cardinals.

Now, this would probably be one of the situations where it's like, okay, he might be interested in a job, just not this one. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. He feels like maybe there's enough self-reflection that I don't understand why guys who are really good coordinators don't just stay really good coordinators. Like, how awesome do you think Matt Patricia is? has been pretty good he has made he probably makes over a million dollars and he gets to coach a team that is better than everyone they play and he gets to coach their defense and doesn't have

to worry about anything else ask Vic Fangio how cool his life is right there's certain guys that it's probably so much better I don't understand why more guys don't say hey this is awesome we're going to keep doing this okay um last game from the early slate jaguars 48 Jets 20 memes, I'll get to you in a second. The Jaguars are just good. I don't... So the Jaguars, I was looking at it. Trevor Lawrence, by the way, had an incredible game.

Five touchdowns, 330 yards. He ran in for a six touchdown. He had 50 yards rushing. That's actually never been done. First player in NFL history, throw for five touchdowns, rushed for a touchdown and rush for over 50 yards, which I know is kind of weird parameters, so it would make sense. But still, he was perfect.

Travis Etienne was awesome. The Jaguars since the by week So going into the by week They were four and three They scored 19 points a game Since the by week They're six and one They've scored 32 points a game

Their one loss was that blown lead Versus the Texans Now they've played a softer schedule But they're throttling teams And they are their offense looks awesome Liam Cohn is a great coach And the Jaguars are for real I don't like

They're just killing teams Yeah I think we might have reached the point where Trevor Lawrence might now finally be underrated. Yeah, I would agree. When he got to the league, he was overrated for a long time. Remember I told you this stat about the Jaguars winning seasons? Yeah. They have five total in the last 20 years, and he has three of them?

I think Trevor Lawrence is one of the most underrated, if not the most underrated quarterback in the NFL. As crazy as that is to say, that's how good his season's been. I think the Jaguars are for real too. Their only losses have been to, for the most part, really good teams like the Texans. I almost count that as because we don't count comebacks anymore. Yeah. They got off to a, they had a big lead against the Houston Texans. A great team. They lost to the Seahawks. They lost to the Rams. And then at the start

of the season, they lost to the Bengals. Which was remember, that was the weird game with Travis Hunter, the past interference. Yep. That was a really strange game. Yeah, I think the Jaguars are for real. Yeah. Liam Cohn also is four wins away from being fifth all time and wins as a Jaguars head coach. Yep. From passing Gus Bradley, who coached the Jaguars for 62 games, Liam Cohen's coached him for 14. Yeah, I like the Jaguars.

He's a good coach. I like them. They're fun. Trevor Lawrence is fun. Etienne's fun. They're fucking killing people. They're a great team. Yeah.

And they're leading the AFC South now. They have a tough schedule down the stretch. I think they have to play the Broncos next week. And, but they could, they have the inside track. now on the ASC South, which would be the Jaguars hosting a playoff game. I'm jagging off. And that pool looks so good today. So good.

The Jacksonville pool. Oh, my God. I just want to live in it. Their uniforms look like the Jaguars are, I think, the highest variant team in terms of their uniforms looking like a complete joke and them looking like a real franchise, depending on how they're playing. Yeah. Like when they're playing poorly, it's like, this is, this isn't, what are these uniforms?

Candy ass. They turn candy ass. Yeah. I'm in the dolphins. I think that we had the Brady Cook game today. Yeah, yeah, memes, just, and I saw you wave the white flag. Yeah, I mean, they put out a CFL defense day. Yeah, I mean, it's not like the Jets gutted their defense.

What are you going to do? Well, they gutted their defense, and everybody's hurt on defense. Right. We have, like, practice squad on practice squad guys playing. It was nice that Brady Cook got that first touchdown. They showed his family. That was cool. Yeah, that was cool.

He just got it in the season. Jets are not good. Yeah, he scored, yeah, he threw four. an NFL touchdown today. That was a special moment for the cooks. Are you looking for at Tankathon? Where are you guys going to end up? We're at five.

There's a path to the one. There is a path to the one if you lose out. Yeah. We're going to lose out. Who do you have left? Saints next week. Important game. Tyler Shuck.

Then it's Patriots. Bills. Yeah. Would you trade... Okay, that's a loseout. How many spots of draft position would you trade to beat the Patriots? we can't We just can't beat the Patriots

I don't This team is dog shit We can't beat dick Oh Can't be dick Can't be dick Aaron Glenn said Very disappointed on a number of different levels

A lot of disappointment A lot of levels A lot of levels A lot of disappointment Makes sense Special teams look good Yeah special teams always looks good I almost would make him the head coach

but this is one of those losses where I was like, I don't care if, like, the entire coaching staff gets fired. Wait, he just got... I know, but I'm just saying, like, that's how down on this team I am. Like, I just don't think it matters. But I also think that Aaron Glenn, like, you can't judge him when you trade your best two defensive players.

Correct. I mean, that's not... You can judge his defensive coordinator, though. Yes. They just, back-to-back weeks, you play two good teams for the first time and forever. You got to have them at least prepared to play. Yeah, I just think that, like, trading, you know, Quinn and Williams and Soss Gardner and then saying, wow, we're getting our ass kicked.

No, duh. It's a big no-duh moment. Yeah, but you were already getting your ass kicked. Yeah, but it's the end of the season. It's just, it's, you know, you're getting your ass kicked. It's no duh. Yeah, I wish the season ended after the Falcons game. Do you get any joy at all of watching these jets?

No. A.D. Mitchell. I get joy at watching. A.D. Mitchell plan, but that's about it. Do you get any joy just at all during the game? Or I guess a better way to ask it, do you feel pain during the game?

Are you just completely numb? It just don't care. That's a good place to be. Yeah, the stranger. Yeah, you can't get hurt. You can't beat dick. Can't beat dick. Can't be dick.

But I want to care. Right. You just can't. You just can't. You just can't care. You just can't. Do you have just like a daydream of what your perfect off-season looks like? Every night.

What does it look like now? Maybe Fernando Mendoza is a guy. Oh, I think he might be. No, but you can't trade up because you need all the picks. You have so many picks, though. We have so many picks, but you can't trade up. Yeah, you're right. You can't.

There's so many holes. Yeah. We have all the holes. You have all the holes and you can't be thick. No. You got no dick and you have all the holes. What a terrible place to be. Yeah.

There's just holes everywhere and no dick in sight. They beat this Jaguar scene last year, like a year ago today, by a couple touchdowns, and then today you lost by four touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah. Complete regression. So many holes. No dick. No dick.

My kingdom for a dick. This is a really good Jets for you guys. All the holes, no dick. It just is what it is. Okay, let's get to the afternoon games. Before you do that, PFTU, you have two more ads you want to hit. Yeah, before we get to the afternoon, NFL games are brought to you by proper 12 Irish whiskey, which is delicious. It's PFT here.

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rams figuring it out in the second half and then shutting them down defensively the rams defense showed up in the second half. The third quarter, Rams had 179 yards to the Lions five yards. And it was clear that they were like, hey, we're not going to let Jemir Gibbs beat us, which they didn't. Amon Ra went off.

But the Rams are a scary, scary team because there was multiple times during this game. And I said this on Friday. There is no, you know, it's the old Dan Marino. There's no defense for a perfect pass. What Stafford and Puka have going on right now, it just, there's nothing you can do. You could play perfect defense

and Matthew Stafford will still get the ball to Pooka Nakua and Naku will make the catch. Yeah, Nakua is, he's playing mad now too. He's running extremely angry when he has the ball. I thought that the Rams looked like the Rams have all season. Matt Stafford had one play that he probably wishes he could take back. Yep.

That picked to Aiden Hutchinson, which was an incredible play by Hutchinson and then he got chased down trying to get to the end zone, ran out of gas a little bit there. But overall, I thought that Matt Stafford played like, you know the perfect matt stafford game that he's capable of and besides like that one game against the panthers this year that's kind of what he's done all season long and yeah the rams the rams the rams are probably the best team in the nfc i would say i would i would put them as my number

one i've been going back and forth between them and the seahawks seehawks seehawks have looked not it's the rams they're the class of the nfc yeah i mean we're going to find out on thursday night when they play each other which i kind of wish this game was not a thursday night game because it's the best teams right now record-wise in the NFC and you get short rest and it's stupid and it's late in the season. Give us this on Sunday or Monday. But yeah, the Rams, the scariest part about the Rams is you have the Stafford part where he's been there, done that. And like I said, he's playing with like Pukunakua. They're, they're on a different level in terms of a wide receiver quarterback like in lockstep with each other. They can run the ball. Karin Williams had, I think,

touchdowns in this game. Blake Corum was running the ball. They have two backs. It can run the ball and their defense can turn it on. Like this game was, the lions were winning this game at a half time. They were up a touchdown. And with the Rams also they had a great drive to end the first half to get a field goal. Field goal, yes. Which was massive for them. But, but it was they were winning this game at half at halftime lines. And then

they come out in the second half and the Rams defense forced three consecutive three and outs. And that was it. Like that, that's, that's what they can do. to a team. So it does feel like they're the most complete team. Actually, probably in the NFL. I mean, the Broncos looked incredible today, which we'll talk about. But they look like the most complete team in the NFL. And you have the coach quarterback combo that have been there, done that that you feel pretty confident going into the playoffs. I agree with that. I don't think that the lines are bad at all. I think the lines are a very good team. And I think that with

the Rams defense, they are a very good unit. And you're not going to stop the lines from scoring points. No. The lines are going to get there. but they stopped them enough. Yeah. And I think the Lions beat almost any other team in the NFL if they play like they did today. So the Lions don't, they did control their own destiny going into this game. They no longer control their own destiny. But if they win out, they should be in.

But you don't know. Yeah. So they get the Steelers. They get at the Vikings and then at the Bears. Yeah. So if they went out, it might be the Bears at the Bears expense because the Bears would probably have to, If the Bears win two of their last three but lose the Lions, they'll be okay because the Lions can't get to 12 wins.

But that last game, that's a playoff game. Yeah. Well, what happened today is the bear minimum for the Bears is that they will be playing in week 18, like if they lose their next two games and the Lions win their next games, week 18 will be a win and get in. Yep. So the Bears can't be like eliminated before week 18. Yeah.

Again, I think the Lions are, they might end up being, whoever doesn't. It doesn't make the playoffs and the NFC is going to be a really good team. I was just going to say that guarantees a playoff game because then the week 18. It is. Yeah. Week 18. And hopefully it doesn't get to that because I would like the Bears to take care of business before that. Home playoff game though.

They have the chance to take care of business before that. But yeah, that's what happened today. Home playoff game would be huge for Chicago. Yeah. Week 18. And that's the bare minimum. If the Bears win the next two games, then that won't be the case for week 18. But yeah, the lions are up against it.

They have to win it. They have to win their next two games. to have that opportunity. Yeah, I think whoever ends up being on the outside, the number eight team in the NFC is going to be a very good team. Yeah, it's crazy looking at the NFC. It's going to be either the lions, the Packers, the Niners. I mean, the Niners are...

Or the Bears. The Niners could be the one-seat. Yeah. If the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday night, I'm pretty sure the Niners control their own destiny for the one-seat. Coach of the year? Kyle Shanahan. I think, so that's probably not a bad bet.

I think it's got to be Liam Cohn, Rable, or Ben Johnson. But if, if the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday night football. Yeah. And then the Niners went out. Yeah. And they get the one seat overall. After everything the Niners have been through,

I feel like Kyle Shanahan would be. But you know how the coach of the year works. I do. It's, it's a team that wasn't supposed to be good that has a newer coach. But counterpoint for Kyle Shanahan, he's never won coach of the year. he hasn't no that's a big narrative too okay that that would be if they finished with the one scene

I feel like they'd have to give it to him yeah I just think they always give it to the team that just completely over performs expectations and is a newer like the last uh let's let's go back so kevin o'connell won it last year that was a 14 win team yep newer coach Kevin stifansky won it because the browns won 11 games Brian dable won it yeah nine and seven that was a another one where new coach team that wasn't expected. Rable won at 2021 with the Titans. Number one seed. Number one seed.

Stefansky with the Browns in 2020, another one of those situations. Harbaugh's the last guy who's like was established for a very long time. He won it in 2019 when they were 14 and 2. The year before that, Matt Nagy, similar situation. First year overperforms.

McVeigh the year before that. First year overperforms. So I think it's it's going to be a team. It's going to be a coach that that is newer. and overperforms. What are the odds on draft games? You're probably right. It's got to be...

Kyle's probably down there. He's probably like 18 to 1. It's not right now. Yeah, but it's got to be some combination of Rable, Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson, who am I forgetting? Maybe Mike McDonald, depending on... Yeah.

I mean, John Payton. You could also make the argument that this is maybe Kyle Shan's best season as a coach? They have... Yeah. Yeah, we have the Niners game last, but yeah, they're very much alive for the one seat. So the Rams, though, the Rams control

their own destiny for the one seed if they win on Thursday they're pretty much cruising to it because I think their last two games are the Falcons and the Cardinals I believe so they win on Thursday and it'll be very hard for them not to get the one seat shirt and hat on Thursday

t-shirt is that is it no it can't be because the Niners oh maybe no no yeah you might be right you might be right you might be right if they win if they win Thursday no that can't be right because if the Niners went out and the Rams lose out the Niners would have They would have two wins over the Rams

Yeah but it doesn't The Niners would have a better record Overall The if the Rams beat the Seahawks They'd be 12 and 4 Right And what are the Niners at right now Oh no they're 12 and 3

They would be 12 and 3 The Niners have four losses Niners have four losses Yeah so if they if the So they could get to third Yeah right If the Rams lost their last two games So close to T-shirt and hacking

Close it would be driver seat Yep And same goes with the Seahawks which we can talk about Seahawks 18 Colt 60 not a exactly an inspiring game from the Seahawks but they got it done I loved watching this game

we got Phil Rivers down to score late in the game we got it twice twice in I've been gambling a long time for over 20 plus years I think laddering Phil Rivers to 280 yards might have been the worst bet i've ever made my life it made every throw exciting though it made every i got swept up

in the moment i was so excited to see our guy fill back out there he was out there he ran the offense decently well his mind is obviously still there he was making checks he was he was making the right reads the arm is not the best i mean the way we're talking about it does sound like a grandfather he he's still he's still the ducks he was throwing ducks every he was throwing like five-yard he's still very sharp you know mentally he's he's all there he still gets it he still has his driver's license he's very alert yeah like i call him and he knows what day it is he gets around great these things yeah he's he remembers he remembers all of his grandkids birthdays his all these things are still happening his rib protector or whatever he was wearing today didn't do him any

favors look like the michelin it did give him the dad bod body uh but i i i cherished every second of philip rivers i cherished every of the 120 yards that he through for I loved it I love seeing him out there when he got excited after throwing that touchdown pass that was that was very cool he did the kick he did the kick he did the kick they flash to to uh to the the pizzeria where he coaches like in that small town and all the kids were watching their coach yeah play football that's a cool moment I I loved what Philip rivers played good enough to win this game we found out before that he took uh some cleats from a trophy case yep so that's that's what he's wearing yeah he he played good enough he did everything

thing you would expect a 44-year-old Philip Rivers who had not played a football game in 1800 days, 1800 days. Beautiful number, by the way. The fact they showed that, and it was on the dot, 1800 days. That's pretty cool. He had that one play where he just fell down in the pocket because he got scared and then got up and started running again. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I hope that we get Phillip Rivers for the last three games of this season. I hope he finished his healthy. I hope he starts next year. I think he's probably going to be limited to to throwing within like 30 yards downfield. Let's get him indoors.

Listen. Let's get him indoors. Let's see what he does indoors. You know, it's hard being outside when you're older. Josh Downs had that one that would have been, he would have been a legend for catching it. I know. It felt like the longest pass in the world that Philip Rivers threw. It was probably like 25 yards downfield.

It might, it might as well have been a Hill Mary, though. Josh Downs, he just didn't get his head around on it. The throws he was making where it was like a checkdown. the far side sideline and he had to put everything into it everything he put his he put his whole ass into every throw everything for the first pass of the game i i was not expecting much after that first pass no that was immediately i think i said out loud in the gambling game i've made a huge huge mistake and uh i think they could have played for another six quarters and i probably wouldn't have gotten it but he figured it out again he's not the reason why they lost that game no they lost because

Listen, Sam Darnold, the Seattle offense was bad. They were two for 13 on third down, which is 15.4%. That was the lowest percentage on third down for a winning team this year. So they were bad, but they did just enough. JSN was awesome in the second half, ended up with 113 yards. Sam Donald did have some very nice field goal drives, like big moments. But yeah, I don't know what to think of the Seahawks offense because their defense, obviously is very, very good.

I don't know what to think of their offense. Yeah, so as a... I guess they had a good second half last week against the Falcons, but that was also a kick return. As a long time, Sam Darnold defender, Sam Darnal Apologist, I've started to develop some cracks the last couple weeks. So you're...

Last few weeks. Are you, you're getting a little scared for... We're in December, and December is not a good thing. It's the opposite of Toyotathon. He doesn't look great. I would be worried if I was a Seahawks fan about the playoffs. I think that the

Seahawks are still a very good team. Their defense is incredible. Jason Myers, obviously a great, great kicker, won the game for you today. I would be worried about Sam's limitations against good teams in the playoffs. Yeah, Thursday night's going to just be a massive, massive game, because

that's the game that if they can get home field advantage, it's like, all right, now you feel a little more comfortable. They only got to win, if they get the one seat, you only got to win two games, they're both in Seattle. I fucking loved watching Philip Rivers today, though. It was so much fun. It made me feel like maybe I'm not 40.

Yeah. Philip Rivers is still out there playing football, man. I felt young again. He said, he said afterward, hopefully my son's and those ball players that I'm in charge of at the school, they'll say, crap, coach wasn't scared. Yeah. Can you actually play the Philip Rivers quote?

It was great. I fucking love him. Yeah. And it just felt like you felt like we had lost. When Phil Rivers retired, we talked about it on the show, how we were losing like a joy of our NFL. NFL Sundays, and to get it back, it's almost, it's almost like we watched, um, like, you know, the Rolling Stones or, or when I go see Dead and Company at the sphere, you're like,

it's not the same, but it's cool because it kind of, it's, it's, in like principle, it kind of is. You're kind of watching the same thing. Yeah, so you know it's not the same. I saw Sublime with Rome. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah. It was cool. All right.

Yeah, play it. I think maybe, you know, maybe it will, I don't know, inspire or teach, you know, not to run or be scared of what may or may not happen, you know. Hopefully, you know, certainly I think of my sons and those ballplayers, you know, that I'm in charge of at the school that they'll say, like, crap, coach wasn't scared. You know what I mean? It's like, shoot, sometimes you, there is doubt and it's real. And you, again, you can, you can.

The guaranteed safe bet is to go home or to not go for it. And the other one is, shoot, let's see what happens. You know, and so, yeah, I hope that in that sense, that it can be a positive to some young boys, you know, or young people. It doesn't have to be boys, but I think maybe. I love it. He's right.

He is 100% right. Take a risk. I love it, Phil. Take the jump. Phil Rivers. I love it. I feel bad for the Colts. they started 7-1

Then they went savage Then they went savage And then they apologized for going savage And now they're 8 and 6 They need to go 2 and 1 Against the Niners, the Jaguars And at the Texans So no

It doesn't look great for the Colts No It doesn't Credit to Hank He said it before Everything looks so good Credit to you Hank Thank you

I don't know what they're going to do I was very close to To having to stop swear for the rest of football season. Yeah. Very close. And coming in a cup. Well, that's only if I accidentally swore.

Which you would have. Which I would have sworn. 100%. Would that have been like even if I cussed off the podcast? I think it would have been on the podcast, but all it would have had to do is Hank saying one thing you'd say, shut the fuck up, Hank. That's true. You could have baited me into baiting.

It would have happened so fast. Yeah, the old double bait. Yeah. It was fun. I hope we get to see it for three more weeks. I hope that Philip Rivers stays healthy. I thought that the Colts defense played awesome today. Yeah.

They played really well. Six field goals, right? Yep. From, from Myers. Yeah, he was sick. Also, I apologize to Blake Groupie. I put some negative things on his name. He had a 60-yarder, which that was a little, maybe if you want to nitpick the Colts,

I've never seen a team play more for a field goal than they did with like, yeah, a half left. It was a 60-yarder. They're like, yeah, we're good enough. It's good. We're not even going to try to get this first down. And then when Phil got the ball back at the end of the game, I think Memes was in here watching it with me. And I was like, Memes, Philip River's interception minus 500 right now.

Because they had to try to throw the ball downfield. They had, what, like 20 seconds left in the game? They had to try to get downfield. Philip, he put his whole ass into that last throw pretty easily picked up. I'm not counting that as interception against Philip River's name. I'm not going to do it. Nope. It was great.

It was nostalgic. It was fun. We love our grandpa. and they get to play Monday night football I love that Monday night football in Indianapolis Phil Rivers Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Let him play.

Don't bring in Riley Leonard. There was someone who pointed out which I have to agree with. They were like This is the state of our quarterbacks and what the college game is producing that a 44-year-old Phil Rivers is better than anything else. Yeah, about that. It's fair. I love watching Philo. I hope he play. Again, I'm not complaining about Philip Rivers.

I think there have to be one or two quarterbacks out there that don't have jobs that are like, what's going on right now? Yeah, but it's also because he knows Shane Steikin's offense, and he's running it in high school. He does. Oh, man, so much fun. God damn it, I love him. He looked so big in that jacket.

That defense is a mess out there. He looks so fucking fat. Y'all sorry. Y'all sorry. The kick. Beat the crud out of he. Doing the kick, screaming at everyone, throwing a touchdown, laddering it to the moon, never having it.

a shot that yeah you can see the kick oh man I fucking love him oh it's just so many Sundays you know what it was that we got to see this guy do this it's it's seeing seeing that motion

that arm motion from a quarterback makes me feel things yeah oh he slipped one in today yeah I can't remember what it was like in the first half he slipped one in that was so perfectly fill rivers that was like a three yard pass it was uh Yeah, fuck, man.

That's what Phil does. Always slips it in. I hope his son. I hope his son is awesome. Or one of them. Gunner. All of them. Gunner.

Gunner Rivers is the best college quarterback name ever. Texas quarterback right there. He needs to be Texas Tech's quarterback. Yeah. Okay. Next up, Broncos 34, Packers 26. The big news out of this game, obviously is Michael Parsons, Fear Dev and ACL tear.

Christian Watson also heard. Bad day. Bad third quarter for the Packers. that was about as demoralizing as the Packers could get in one quarter and it all, like they were kind of handling the Broncos and they were up 2413 and that deep shot to Christian Watson

that Patrick Stratan picks off because he's nasty he gets hurt and then non-contact contact injury for Michael Parsons the Packers are in some deep trouble especially because they're all in player like that's their all in player and he might have torn his ACL. Yeah, that's a bummer for them. I know that it breaks,

you up to big cap because i wish i could turn injuries off because you want to beat the packers at full strength i yeah yeah if i if i could uh say that this game doesn't count i would but yeah unfortunately the game counts uh credit to bo necks bo necks had his perfect game today he was so good 3002 yards four touchdowns no picks didn't get sacked a single time today dude he was evading everything and and he's so good at evading and keeping his eyes downfield and hitting guys downfield And that fourth down throw, which wasn't the game winner because I don't know what happened at the end of the game where the Packers just kept on getting the ball back. It was like, it just kept on happening where it was like, oh, the game's over. Oh, no, it's not.

That fourth down throw on the sideline to Cortland Sutton was so sick. It was, it was, that was a big boy throw. What happened was somehow the Packers, they threw a pick with how much time was left in this game. 638 left And then the Broncos went three and out Then the Or no, they turned it over on downs Then the Packers turned over on downs

Then the Broncos turn it over on downs Then the Packers turned it over on downs Then it was the end of the game So it was like punters were not on the field They were just everybody was going for it It was a great football game And start off with like a fight before the game too Which you knew that these teams were going to go out there

And like fuck each other up for a little bit It was a great football game Yeah, and this was, this is the signature Bo Nix win. If this Bo Nix shows up in the playoffs, then everybody's in trouble. Danger. Everybody's, they're going to beat everybody in the NFL if they get games out of Bo Nix like this. And this is, they're now standing alone at the one seed. Hank, are you nervous about the Broncos?

Because playing it mile high is just different. Yeah. If they have the one seed, I would be nervous. They looked good today. Mm-hmm. And Bo Nix picked it up big time. he was he was phenomenal they're good team very good team um i think they're the best team in football with good bow yeah we get the way bo necks is playing right now heisman yeah heisman yeah this is

the year this is the year for he's focused he's determined the packers are in trouble it feels like there was a was like clicking on some of packers twitter and seeing the meltdown and seeing the hyperbole of this is sets them back five years which I do not believe it's it's a pretty significant injury because you again you're all in you don't have a draft pick next year yeah um was I clicking on that yeah maybe I was was I did I see that one guy that one Packer fan who had posted a laughing emoji when Roma Dunesay was ruled out at 1130 this morning and then had that happen yeah I did but I wish I could turn injuries off that's what I'll say. I do. That's very big of you. I mean, injuries suck. I'm not, I'm actually, obviously I'm, I'm, I, I, I did click on a lot of Packers Twitter and, and, and just check in on, on my friends, um, was enjoying some reading. But my honest, the honest truth is like, injuries suck and injuries can happen to any team. And I'm not like, oh, yes, Michael Parsons is hurt. Yeah. That's the, the, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're own team's going to get injuries eventually and it will suck and it will be demoralizing so yeah the whole

thing is shitty he's just the one guy that that you really didn't want i don't i don't think they're set back five years but i do think that this is like the one guy besides probably jordan love that if he got hurt you could be like well there goes next year well they looked like a true super bowl contending team and micha parsons is the biggest part of their defense and christian watson is what made their offense look so explosive when he came back from his he gets injured a lot that sucks for him he just you know obviously got back from the aced jordan love looked good in the first half he was making the jordan love throws that throw to josh jacobs for the touchdown was insane but yeah the this definitely changes the it shakes up the nfc i think maybe my my favorite offensive lineman to watch

is quin minors yeah for the broncos he was just a fucking bully just pushing people over he's a joy to watch on the When he plays physical, that running game is great. Sean Payton is calling like almost perfect games right now. It's just all about if you get the good bow or the bad bow. Yeah. The good bow's been here for a little bit. He's been around. And the Broncos are like my big, my big thing with the Broncos was that they were

toying with a lot of bad teams. But the last couple of weeks are starting to put together those complete games and rounding into form and kind of peeking at the right time. Yeah. Do you feel bad about Michael Parsons, Max? Yeah, I don't mind Michael Parsons anymore. He's on the Cowboys. If he was on the Cowboys, would you be cheering for his injury?

No, I wouldn't be cheering for his injury. The way you asked me that, I thought it implied that I, that I dislike Michael Parsons. No. Would you, if Michael Parsons got hurt while he's on the Cowboys, would you click on some of Cowboys Twitter and just read some of the tweets? Oh, yeah, I'm, yeah. you just got to you got to my job is to learn what's going on in the league looking at I'm having a good time looking at a cowboy sweater right now yeah it's pretty god boy's twitter's been talking some fucking shit it's pretty good there's a lot of there goes the

season yeah season's over no for Packers Twitter in last week after they beat the Bears there was a lot of the Bears there goes the Bears season so it changes fast it's week to week league and Max congratulations I think I already congratulated on you uh a couple weeks ago, the Philadelphia Eagles will win the NFC East. The first repeat winner of the NFC East since 2005? Still got to win a football game. 2006?

We got a hat and t-shirt game in D.C. next week. Right? Next Saturday will be a hat and t-shirt game. It's going to be the worst day of my sports life. You can't. You might shock the world. It's going to be the worst. I'm being set up for such a bad day. It's better for you to lose. It's better for you to lose. Why? He's talking about JMU as well, though.

No, I'm not talking about talking about Jamie. No, but I'm saying like back to back. He's sorry about JMU. It's good bad, bad lineup for me. Bad lineup. But if it could be the best day. Fuck it, let's just go beat Oregon.

Just worry about Jamie. Let's go beat Oregon. Just worry about Jamie. You worry about Villanova. Villanova. Yeah, Villanova's a big football game next week. PFT, there is that over, there's going to be some overlap. What game, when the commanders and the Eagles are on and JMU.

Yeah. Which game is going to, do you want have sound? Jam you? At what point in the JMU game is this going to be? It's right at the beginning Because I assume the Bears Packers When the Bears Packers starts 50 minutes after JMU

So we'll probably go to Bears Packers sound The Eagles are going to be up 36 to 17 So I want the commanders sound off And then hopefully JMU gets off to like a 7-0 lead Before everything goes to shit Okay And then I can have a moment where I'm like we're actually going to do this.

Yeah. And then that's when the Bears come on. And I'm going to bet a lot of money on the Bears game to try to win back some of my joy that I lost in the first two games. Okay. That's my game playing for Megaday on Saturday. And then Villanova versus Illinois State. Oh, yeah.

Who can forget? Yeah. FCS matters. These two teams don't like each other. Mega day. We've been talking about Mega Day. And I pointed out that Mega Day, which we will be streaming all day Saturday, is significantly less games than our usual every single single.

Sunday. But it's mega in terms of the importance of these games. It is an important day. To our personal happiness and mental health. Yes. It is mega. Absolutely mega. Bo Nex, man.

That, yeah, that fourth quarter throw, man. He's, he's good. He's good. He's good. And the way he abides and just, he always, he's really, fundamentally, he just, like, keeps his shoulders perfect placement. And, you know, like when he's, when he's running around in the backfield, then he just, he squares up and throws a dart somewhere down field.

and they got good players like they got good pass catchers weapons i liked his line after the game when they were asking about being underdogs he's like we're overdogs okay we're they're overdogs they don't listen to the underdog narrative okay so they're over dogs so they're making themselves overdogs got it which is some coaches are like hey i would like to be an underdog because then you've got you don't want that rat poison we're the overdogs bo necks is chopping up the lines of rat poison cutting them with bocane snorting them yeah i'm the fucking bover dog get used to it do we have an update on christian watson because he went to the hospital which that is scary i think i i feel like he i don't i'm not a doctor but it felt felt like he might

have uh broken his collarbone but they said chest so i don't know that's not good no so he went to the hospital hopefully he's okay he is a big i mean matthew golden's gonna step up but that's a different player too um oh did you guys see the halftime show of the year no mutton busting oh i love mutton busting so we had a sheep being um corraled by a dog a sheep dog and then a kid on a sheep fall flat on his face this is all half time of the broncos game it's awesome i heard that there was a sheep that got away too yeah this is the sheep that got away and they're chasing it but then they brought the they're like wait we have a dog for this we have we have a we have a cattle dog and the cattle dog comes and he just starts fucking whipping them up

taking care of business. This is all going half time of an NFL game. Dude, that dog's got excellent pursuit. Yeah. Look at the angles. Dogs going crazy. Dogs getting the sheep back into its spot. And then look at the bottom part of this.

There's a kid who comes, I guess he's riding a sheep, and he just falls flat on his face. Oh, that's great. It was a lot of action for a half-time show of an NFL game. Yeah, the sheep jumping, hurtling. Shout out of Broncos, mutton busting rocks. If I were to change one thing about mutton busting, I would, do the one that has the monkey dressed up in the cowboy outfit that's riding on the back of the sheep dog yeah that takes it to to the best level possible i agree that's my favorite

sporting event i'm all in on this sheep dog oh dude the dog is awesome beast yeah he knew exactly what he even slipped a little bit at first yeah that that that didn't knock him off track at all and he and then he just and then as soon as he does his job he's just like lay down good good boy yeah good boy that dog that dog pays attention to details that's a slot receiver that's austin collie people people definitely and then people get those dogs and they're like why is my dog have so much energy that's what that dog should be doing yeah every dog if you own an australian shepherd a blue healer a border collie you should be just releasing them onto an nflb field at half time yeah uh okay broncos one seed they are so next week they have a big game

against the Jags, and then the Chiefs, obviously, with Gardner Minchew. And Chargers, Chargers could be, both teams could be set in the playoffs in their spot, could be a meaningless game, although the Broncos could be playing for the one seat still. The Broncos have the tiebreaker against the Patriots.

Is that right? I believe they do, right? They do. Okay. So... So the road right now goes through Denver. The road goes through Denver, unless they slip up. The road goes through tough, tough place to play. Yeah. That's a that's a really good complete football team. The Broncos being good again is it's fun.

There's something about games at Denver that just feel different and just they're fun to watch. Especially if they have, if they're wearing the throwback uniforms too. Yeah, back to back to playoffs. I think it's the first time. I mean, they're going to win the AFC West for the first time in a long since what, 2015 probably? Yeah. Peyton.

That's got to be it. And so right now it would be the Texans. Or no, 2014? It would be the Texans at the Patriots. it would be the Bills at the Jaguars. What was that face, Hank? They're all tough games. Yeah, playoffs.

Playoffs. Playoffs are tough games. What would the NFC be right now? NFC would be Bears at Bears right now. Okay. No, 49ers. Bears, 49ers. What?

Oh, no, you're right. You're right. Packers. It would be Packers at Bears. It would be 49ers at Eagles. Ooh. Brock Pretty Revenge. A little throwback.

That'll be a good game. That'll be good. good football game. Are you scared of the 49ers? I respect everyone. Yeah, that's a good answer. I respect the fuck out of everyone. I respect the commanders, yeah.

You shouldn't. I don't know. Well, let's talk about them. I don't know if I respect the Panthers, if they're favorites. Saints 20, Panthers 17, Panthers as favorites, yet again, do not win or cover. They're 0 and 12 in their last 12 games as favorites.

They haven't won her covered as a favorite since 2020. Stop making them favorites. You're doing them a disservice. They got shucked. Tyler Shuck, dude, something about him. I'm telling you, the Saints, like, the Saints were in the running this season for being worst team. They were most lost team.

They were the team that, like, oh, they have no future. Tyler Shuck might be the real deal. And their defense is bawling out. Kellan Moore seems like a good coach Like the Saints should get in the playoffs They beat the bucks in the in the Panthers And back to back weeks Yeah that's one and two

They beat the Panthers twice now I know they should get the They should win the NFC South They should get the NFC South Yeah if you go perfect in your division You should win that division They lost the bucks earlier than I know But still

But that was pre-shuck Yeah it was pre-shut Everything post Shuck should count Shuck should be a playoff quarterback this year Agreed agreed Chuck, now he passed Spencer Rattler. He is now the Saints' rookie record holder for quarterbacks in terms of yards. And Charlie Smith, their place kicker, after the game, he won the game for him.

DeMario Davis came up to the interview and goes, they should make a movie about this guy. And I looked into Charlie Smith's career where he came from. I agree with DeMario Davis. Okay. They probably should. So DeMario Davis first kicked an American football. on August 22nd, 2003. That's crazy?

Yeah, like two and a half years ago. So he's from Ireland. He was a Gaelic football player. He was a goaltender. And he would just go out and, like, kick the Gaelic football over the uprights. And he would do that for fun. He'd watch NFL. He'd watch Red Zone.

He'd be like, I'd like to do this one day. He sent an email to Inquiries at NFL.com back in 2019. I don't think anybody responds to that email address. Yeah. But he was just like, hey, how do I become an NFL? NFL place kicker because I think I'd be good at it. Yep. Didn't hear back from anybody. He finally got in the international program or whatever back in 2023, and then he first kicked

on August 22nd, 2023. Then he gets in against the Dolphins, hits a 56-yarder, recovers his own onside kick, and then he kicks a game winner. This guy rocks. Charlie Smith is a fucking legend. That's awesome. And I can't help but think maybe some Tyler Shucks rubbing off on him. Dude.

Is Tyler Shucks winning wins. The Shuckster. he's he's really fun to watch he's he's starting to look like the guy chase young said that starting to look like the guy he's whipping that armor he has the most wins in this quarterback class i know yeah started six weeks ago his three career wins there's something about chuck there dude he throws a catchable ball he makes plays he gets better as the game goes on he had the game winning drive like two well two of me they're on 1710 takes him down the field touchdown and then gets a ball back, perfectly, perfectly baited them into that flag, too.

Oh, on the slide? Yeah, on the slide with 12 seconds left. The Shuckster, man. Saints are, like, if you're a Saints fan, you have something to look forward to. You know what he is? Shucks twitchy. Yeah. He's got those fast feet, fast hips.

I maintain, if people knew how to pronounce his name, I think he'd be a bigger deal. I really do. Yeah. It's just the fact that his name doesn't make any sense still. I feel like when we had Mel Kuiper on last year before the draft, he was saying that Tyler Shuck was going to be like really good. Or not Tomichshay. Yeah.

I remember that specifically. I was like, all right, Tyler Shook. I think Tyler Shuck might have been the guy that made Mil Kuiper cry. Yeah. Yes. When Shuck got drafted, Mel Kuiper, what are we doing? Yeah. Zach, your team got a nice bounce from this.

The Bucks went from 53% to 76%. with this loss. If they win next week, they have a 95% of chance of making the playoffs. They just keep lucking into these things. I think if the regular season was 25 games long, I think the Saints win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I'd agree. Yeah. That did feel like an early Christmas gift. It was like, here you go. Yeah. Well, punch this one up. Let's get you guys in a playoffs. It's the Stephen Shea effect.

You could count the bucks out a million times and then things will just keep happening that put the bucks in a better position, they're going to win the NFC South, and he's going to say dominance continues. Did it feel dirty rooting for the Saints? Yes. You got a roof or where you got a roof?

Did it wholeheartedly, yes. Yeah, yeah. I shouldn't have, but I did because we're trying to get in, boys. Yeah, trying to get in. Okay, last game. Titans, or sorry, we'll do Sunday football real quick, but 49ers, 37 Titans 24. The 49ers are better than Titans.

they That's it Yeah George Kidd have looked awesome today George Kidd have looked awesome He had a really good quote too About Brock Purdy After the game He said

He's that Jesus Christ Lizard running on water No ball security Fake pitching at the end of a 40 yard run Absolutely just diabolical By behavior by our QB1 I love it Mm-hmm

Jesus Christ lizard The Jesus Christ lizard I think there is a Jesus lizard It's the one that does sprint Across the water Yeah That's what he is That's what Brock Party is.

The 49ers look really good. I think there's enough that you can watch from the Titans if you're a Titans fan where you're like, well, we didn't get her ass kicked that bad today. Kim Ward had a couple nice throws. By the way, thank you to Kyle Shanahan for kicking that field goal at the end of the game. Yes. Good stuff, Kyle. We appreciate it.

That's why you are my coach of the year this year. That was a massive field goal. But yeah, the 49ers, they are a legitimately really good team. Yeah. And we did have a weird story with Brandon Ayuk being put on the reserve list. reserve slash left squad list and they asked Kyle Shannon about it afterwards he said we haven't seen him in forever that's the decision they made it's been pretty simple for me I haven't seen him in a month yeah so that's weird very weird Brock Party looks good though again like that he had

that one game was against the Panthers where he threw all those picks and they still won I think but now he's back to like Brock Purdy being efficient scrambling doing his thing hitting guys I think he's probably healthy now. Yeah. Yeah. So the 49ers, like people aren't talking about the 49ers, but the 49ers, if the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday night football and the 49ers win out, they will be the one seat.

Yep. So that's something that just isn't like, I don't think it's been on a lot of people's radar because of how good the Rams and the Seahawks have been all year. Yeah, they've been, the 49ers sneak it up on people right now. And they've got Christian McCaffrey playing really good. Brock Purdy and a good backup to Brock Purdy and Mack just in case something happens to him.

I really, really think that Kyle Shanhan has done a great job this year. Yeah, the three losses that the 49ers have had have been all to playoff teams. Jaguars, Texans, ramps. They're a good team. And they're definitely are sneaking up on people. I've been watching them because of the seating

and all that stuff. But I feel like if you went around and you ask people like, oh, who's going to win the NFC West? 49 or still can? Well, it's because they win, loss, win loss, win loss. And so nobody was like a middle stretch, yeah. Taking that seriously. But they stack three at the start of the season,

and now they're on another four-game winning streak right now, and they're healthy. And their schedule has broken their way a little bit. Yeah. But the IUC stuff is very strange. Very strange. I don't think it impacts the team at all because he hasn't been there. That sounds like it's going to be one of those cases where the team's going to be like,

yeah, we're actually not going to pay you. And the players are going to be like, fair. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't show up. I really haven't. I can't file a grievance because I haven't. done anything. Yeah. Okay. Last one. Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K-com promo code take 20% off your

first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. Do you guys remember like two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago when the Cowboys were the scariest team in the football? That was funny. They just lost the Vikings. They got nine. Nine was awesome. They got nine. Jay McCarthy looked like, you. He had full control of the offense. He did a very good job. That's got to ease Vikings fans a little bit to remember that, hey, he's still young. He's still figuring it out because he just went into Dallas and he played outside of that first, you know, interception.

He played a very, very good game. He was just trying to make a play, though. And he gritted it in the end zone. He gritted. That's got to be the most demoralizing thing when nine is hitting you from five yards out with a gritty on a naked boot leg. That was the Peyton Manning naked boot that happened in Dallas. It was. That play works every time, by the way. In Dallas.

It should. Especially. Yeah, the Cowboys, tough break for them. Not really going to be too upset about the Dallas Cowboys, not making the playoffs. No, so they're out, right, Max? No. Magic number is one. One loss.

Either one loss by the Cowboys or one win by the Eagles. The Cowboys have to win out. They've got to beat the Chargers, the commanders, and the Giants. Which they could. The Cowboys could win out. I wouldn't be shocked. Like, the Chargers, I think, are better. than them, but there's a chance.

And then the Eagles have the commanders. Bills. Commanders. They just got win one on the Manders. I think you might take one against us. What if you kept him out? Split home and home. What if you kept him out? What if we did? That would be crazy. You know what?

That would be nuts. I would make a t-shirt and hat for myself. I have to. Yeah. It would just be for the streak of back-to-back division champions. But the problem is... Yeah, you would just be making a t-shirt and hat for the Cowboys. No, but it would be for me. No, it would be for the NFC East. It would be like... You would be so excited for the Cowboys to make the play.

It would be a list of division champions. By the way, the Cowboys... It would be back to back to back to back to back. Also the Cowboys... It doesn't even matter, yeah. No repeat champion NFC Beast. Yep. Has anyone...

So, yeah, the Vikings, like, looks good. Cowboys, it was funny that we had that. I think it really is about the fact that the Cowboys, that's why we were all. poison-pilled by oh my god the cowboys are so dangerous it was because they were they were buried they were left for dead before the season started yeah the whole micha parsons thing happened and so nobody expected shit from them and they beat the chiefs on thanksgiving day in the most watched regular season game ever but yeah they're not they're not scary is there something their defense still

stinks is there something wrong with brandon aubrey brin obfrey missed a field goal twice twice two field goals tonight and um george pickens was i bet you george pickens wishes that the season ended after thanksgiving because he would have made a lot of money because the last two games have not been great the lions game in this game yet a tough one again tonight so he's probably like hey george we got to remember you're in a contract here dude try really hard i think he'll probably have he'll he'll go off one of these last three games i don't know probably yeah okay christmas day christmas day George Pickens, two touchdowns, 140 yards.

Who are they playing Christmas Day? Commanders. Oh. Yeah. Why don't you, you can keep them out of the playoffs? Why don't you just beat them? Well, no, because you're going to beat the commanders next week,

so that would keep the Cowboys out of the playoffs. Yeah. But no. Cowboys can't get in the playoffs. Commanders are going to beat the Eagles next week, and then the Eagles are going to lose to the bills, and then the commanders are going to beat the Eagles again, keeping the Eagles out of the playoffs and retaining the NFC,

streak of no back-to-back division champions which you are proud of for divisional pride listen it's there's not a lot that i have to be proud of so i got to take it where i can get it and uh when you look at that graphic it's like 99% cowboys and eagles and then like i think we pop up twice on that graphic i don't think the cowboys can get it as a wild card they may they cannot they can't they got to win the division well the packers have the same would If they won nine games, the Packers, and the Packers lost out, they would have the same record, but I don't know. I think the Packers have the, well, they tied. Right, but I think they have whatever the next tiebreaker is.

Yeah, which is the next, yeah. So, yeah, just eliminate them next week, Max. Listen, everybody gets nine sometimes. Dude, he looked good. Nine's on a roll right now. That does, this is, this is a testament to, like, playing hard throughout this kid. Like, if you're a Vikings fan, you were pretty down the last. Two months, but a night like tonight, and depending on how they can play spoiler in the last three weeks to some of their, they play the Lions and the Packers, some of their division foes, like, you could have a little momentum with nine.

So the Vikings are officially eliminated. Yeah, they've been eliminated. They were eliminated before this game. Yeah. And they went in and did their thing. Congrats to them. Okay. Should we do Who's Back of the Week and send everyone on their way?

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Hank, your who's back of the week. My who's back of the week is John Sina. Yeah. Yeah. He had his... You watched. Last match ever. Oh, you're doing quotes.

Yeah, he's back. Last match ever You don't think he's ever He did a whole press story He said this is it 100% No doubt about it Last match ever

He's What are you laughing about memes He's fake Zach's Zach's been scrambling For who's back And Hank just took his Oh no

He's had a couple That have been Talked about Throughout the show And then we got We got the John Cena It's okay We gave him another one

He's got another Or memes gave him another one But yeah So he's notorious He's notorious for never tapping That's like his whole thing That's what he built his brand on And in his last match ever

He gave up, tapped out, lost So He's gonna be back Because he has to come back To avenge that He has to avenge the tap out Yeah Do you agree with the fans

That were saying Fuck you Triple H For having him lose his last match like that Yeah I mean that The WWWW is all It's fan service Yeah

Like little kids You know How are you gonna have a guy That's like the most inspirational figure known for not tapping out and go out by tapping out what message does that send

that's a good point it makes no sense you're right so did he destroy his legacy the only way it can make sense is if he comes back like it was the ultimate whatever you call it

why did he say he was retiring I think he's just done he's old just acting he wants to just act more yeah he's old he's got hair now yeah what he's got hair

yeah he does have air yeah jerry's uh son said that he uh jerry said that his son was crying so hard he got a he got a fever I don't think that's how fevers were that's what he said he was crying so much about john Cena retiring that he got a fever johns needed a tapping yeah john seen a tapping made his son cry

yeah his four-year-old son get a fever it is honestly a bad message that he sent kids like if life gets hard tap out do you want tap out raise your son to be a philip rivers not a johnsina well yeah and if you went out you know coming back from against all odds and winning and that was his final final sendoff like that's that's a good message it makes no sense which leads me to believe he's undoubtedly coming back over the next six months now what about the people that paid like five thousand dollars to see

johnsina's last match what's the appropriate amount of time that you have to wait if you're john to do the johnsina come back i don't know probably whenever their next like big pay-per-view is yeah if they did it like in five months people would be mad summer slam i don't really know the WWD's going to come back But he won't be back for a while I would imagine I would say within a calendar year Okay within a calendar year

Yeah Okay call your shot A calendar year of Sounds like you're hating on wrestling a little bit I'm not hating on wrestling I just like he did the whole press store I'm like this is 100% it It's my last match

If it was he would not have lost You're not wrong But also you can't have him Did he have a belt Going into it You can't have him retire with a belt he must not have he must not have wait now I'm confused again about calendar year you said within a calendar year of right now calendar year so what would that mean

in the next two weeks two weeks next calendar year he'll be back next calendar year that makes sense 2026 that makes perfect sense okay good who's back thanks yeah you good I'm great great we good yeah we're good we're good never better I just think it had been a while since you lost a game so we hadn't had a situation yet for a while there was no situation we're good it was a minor situation i have a question yeah good question did you think when we were doing that whole it's so fun to play the raiders thing did you think that was going to come to you at any point yeah you you just shunned it yeah i was not going to bring that up myself i i kept bringing it up specifically for that reason what was i what would you what would i have butted in and said

No, no, no, no. But credit to us were saying it's your face. We didn't say it. I was just talking to Max about how awesome it was to play the Raiders today. Yeah, it was good. And Big Cat, when you played the Raiders, that was awesome too. Yeah, we won. And Marcus Merrily went off against the Raiders.

I also didn't bring up that the Panthers also lost today. Which means one. Which was another one of the winning teams that. So how many winning teams do they've beaten? They've beaten one. They're currently one and two against winning teams. But that team that they beat with. the winning record avenge their loss.

But not the torch. But not the torch. Not the torch. But you play. You play. Listen to last Friday's part of my take if you think he's going to talk about the fucking torch again. There's a little button on your phone that.

I think it's a little premature to say the torch. You said the torch was passed in like, what, September or early October? That feels premature. It was right. That was correct. well no you have to win the division true yeah what if you guys like playing the playoffs then the torch goes back that would be a torch game that would be a torch that would be a that would have to be a torch game we're worried about the we're about the ravens right now

you'd have to make that a torch game ravens you have to at least think about it ravens okay that would almost be worse if you got the torch and then gave it back within almost a calendar year is it a crazy though Hank like losing a game you you just then see everything differently where you're like oh shit every team looks scary now yeah no it's it's it's not a not a fun spot to be in the the it's going to be a long couple months buckle up but this is what hang strap in this is the time of year that you like historically actually start playing football like football doesn't matter until yeah we have when the playoffs start strap in I would rather have an extra you know

week of sleep but that's fine is there a chance there could be a team that makes the a fc playoffs with the losing record uh maybe the ravens still that would be hilarious i think the ravens could go i guess they wouldn't play each other unless the unless the patrons got the wild card i think they could go eight and nine yeah okay um p f t or who's back um my who's back is the heisman trophy yes that was going to be mine mendoza wins the heisman trophy Diego Pavia did not win the Heisman trophy He may have acted like he won the Heisman trophy afterwards Yeah

I was gonna do who's back Johnny Manzell Yeah But Johnny Manzell won it This is the situation where like Right after the award was announced And everything that happened that night Reinforced the decision to give it to Mendoza Yeah I like Fernando Mendoza

I also like Pavia I like Pavia I thought that was a little lame To do that When you lost the high Johnny Mansell worked because he won the Heisman, and he, like, beat Bama and that stuff. Fernando Mendoza seems like the sweetest dude ever. And we even had Albert Breer doing a weird passive-aggressive tweet. Did you see that?

Yeah. Which made, like, why even tweet that? Basically being like, teams will talk about whether Fernando Mendoza is too big of a dork to be a good NFL quarterback. I don't, if you saw the clip, but also. Andrew Lowe. The clip after Fernando. Mendoza won the Heisman and he went to the back room and his entire team was there and they were so fucking hype for him. I'm pretty sure he's a good teammate and the boys love him.

Yeah, he's a great teammate. One of my favorite things that I saw from was they asked him like, what do you want to do with the trophy after you win it? And what did Pavia say? Pavia said, take it to the club or something like that? No, he's going to be, he was going to let Theo Vaughn have it in the back of his podcast. Yeah, I'm going to give it to Theo Vaughn. And then Mendoza was like, I would like the Heisman trophy to stay at the University of Indiana, Bloomington, because everyone there has been through thick and thin with this team, the ups and the downs, a lot of downs, and it belongs to the community. And then they're like, well, actually, you get two of them. Yeah. So the school gets one and then you get one

yourself too. He's like, oh, okay, then I guess I'll have my own. Jeremiah, I love said he wanted to give it to God. I want to give it to God. And then, and then, and I'm going to put it in the back of Theo Vaughn's podcast. Yeah, I was happy for Fernando Mendoza. And, you know, people, it wasn't like Not every year can be, someone put up Joe Burroughs numbers against Reni. I mean, Joe Burrow, that was maybe the greatest college football season ever. 60 touchdowns. Fernando Mendoza was awesome. And he made big plays and big moments.

And Indiana football is the number one football team in the country going into the playoffs. It's crazy. This whole thing is just, if you went in a coma three years ago and woke up, you just be like, what the fuck? Indiana won the Heisman and they're the number one team. it makes no sense, but it's awesome for them. Yeah, Notre Dame got left out of the playoffs. For Indiana?

That's, yeah. That's crazy. But, yeah, you would think that, like, if anything, the system would go out of its way to rig it for Notre Dame. It's just completely backwards in college football right now. But listen, I like Pavia because he's a wild card. He's kind of crazy. He says a lot of stuff that he probably will end up regretting.

Like, after it was over and he was just like, fuck all the voters. Yeah. Like, I kind of, I like, I like. that it's fun it is it's interesting having guy like that around yeah but i think uh yeah mendoza seems like a great guy i like yeah what you're gonna say max you're not even mentioning like the other finalist was vanderbilt like if you woke up in oh yeah yeah it was like indiana ohio's crazy and vanderbill yeah yeah it would be like what do you mean notre dame ohio state indiana and vanderbill and the one two was indiana vanderbill it wasn't it wasn't that

close either and it was uh yeah mendoza what a fucking, I mean, what is he? Indiana. I'm excited for the playoffs. And I do think I'm, I'm buying stock in Fernando Mendoza as a pro. I said that to you. Remember memes? Like two months ago, I was like, I think he's got it. I think he's got it. The way he's like nerds out about football, that's a guy who just loves football. Yep. And talking about football and reading defenses. We're going to lose Phillip Rivers, but we're going to gain a Mendoza. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Okay. My, who's back of the. week NBA Cup it actually was awesome oh no was that yours Zach no you're good you're good

spurs beat the okay C okay C okay C okay C second loss of the season yeah huge loss they've just been credit to us I know I know we got a long way to go in the NBA season but at least through the first two months our take that last year's okay C team might be the worst team they have is they're they're dominant but Wemby changes everything thing. And the NBA Cup actually has been pretty cool. Credit to Adam Silver. That was an awesome game. Spurs beat the Grizzlies. And Wemby is a problem. Wembe is a huge problem. Massive problem. I hope this continues for the rest of the season. He had a minor injury scare, but I got him to win MVP. Took it week. I think it was the first week of the NBA season. And he's just, like, there's no

accounting for him. You can't, you can't design. a system to keep the ball away from wimby you can't design a system to to effectively like attack the paint when wimby's standing there yep he's so so fun to watch yep hey you guys remember when i was uh when i was like oh the bulls are are kind of good kind of fun they're so bad and they lost the pelicans again today the pelicans have five wins on the season and two of them are to the bulls they're so bad you know it's really good at pelicans shot 24% from three and beat the The Pistons are awesome. Pistons are very good. Bully ball. Hank, Celtics Report, go.

Cells are good. They're on a good streak. Tatum going to come back? I don't think so. I don't know. He's been practicing. I think they're nine and two in their last 11 games. A couple games back from the Knicks. That's pretty good. Sixers are in third. Playing well. Playing good ball. They beat the Pistons, beat the Cavs. Got a big one against the Pistons tonight.

We'll do some maybe basketball previews after the new year. Mm-hmm. Get everyone geared up for the league. Do you guys beat the Sixers, Hank? We beat the Sixers in the beginning of the year. I'm saying we beat the Pistons and the Cads recently. How's the Sixers doing? They're fine. Tyrese hasn't played the last two games because he was sick.

Paul George's back. Yeah, Embed had 40 on Friday. And then Paul George had 35 tonight. They went one in one of those two games. But without Maxie, you'll be all right with that. Did you guys see that shot, Steph Curry? warming up on Friday That was the craziest shot

He's just dude perfect Did you see it? Can you pull it up? Is it real? Yeah It's very real There was a whole stance Those those videos are impossible There's been somebody fake ones

I don't know how this one would be faked I don't you know I guess yeah you're right All right you're right Hank You're right Dude no search Steph Curry shot You're right This could very well be AI

I could be an idiot look at this the official warriors account posted I think I mean that's stupid that's crazy I think that's an old video Wait is that is that old so that

Oh that oh I bet is That might be an old video And it might be a shot that like hit the outside of the net That didn't go in because I remember that was That happened a couple years ago That was that was Friday night That was Friday night He did it again

Yeah, it's crazy I don't know I mean they posted it on Friday night So if the Warriors are reposting it That's lame I'm gonna say it right now Bad Warriors bad It does suck that we're like wait

Which video is this of Steph Curry hitting a 140 foot shot And it sucks Being like we don't know if this is real or not Because everything is AI now And nothing I saw a woman get eaten by an alligator this morning like it in real life or a no yeah i very ai but it's just

i don't know why we're making these videos i i listen i think a i i think it's in hot water really i think a i is on the hot seat okay i feel like this is uh we're we're in a good spot as humanity right now where ai has not been making enough money to justify all the investment isn't it like every time they do and every time you make an AI video of like a fat woman falling through a bridge like an entire town in Tennessee loses its water. That does happen. Yes. Yeah. But it's mostly that

at this point AI is like there's five companies that make money right now and they're all in AI and they're trying to sell their AI to businesses and then every time a business uses AI their customers are like hey what the fuck the AI sucks and the business are like we want to stop paying for this AI and then all the five companies that are making money are like, oh shit, what are we going to do to make money now? We owe a lot of money, a lot of people invested in us. I feel like AI's in hot water. All right, good. Hot water. We might beat the robots. All right. Did you guys see that robot going up the stairs in Pittsburgh? Fuck, fuck these robots. That robot, I would, that robot's going to kill

us someday. Well, it's the, wait, I'm seeing another angle of this stuff or anything. It may be, it may be real. I, the Warriors posting an AI video would be fucked up. That should be against the law. that's real that's an insane shot I think it's real yeah he's crazy man he's really good at basketball

remember when we got to root for him when he was on the Olympic team yeah that was so much fun that was cool Zach your who's back of the week my who's back of the week this week is going to be branched to the U.S. military

because we had a couple come together this weekend oh nice Army Navy game went down Great Army Navy game I got a problem I got a problem that's our issue PFT

CBS Okay. Every year I watch the Army Navy game. Every year. It's the best flyover of the year. They didn't have a flyover on TV this year. They went to commercial. That's bullshit. It's bullshit. Everybody loves the Army Navy flyover. You get the helicopters from the Army. You get the F-18s from the Navy. And they just didn't put them on TV. That's bullshit. What's going on with that? We used to be a proper country. Hey, what's the deal with that? What is up with that? Who at CBS made that decision? Who's in charge of CBS now? Yeah. I got a bone to pick with you.

I think it was Gary Danielson's last Army Navy game. I think he's retiring at the end of the year. He's a good announcer. Yeah. Kind of like a classic announcer voice. Yeah. He got very emotional. It was nice.

I like when they do the exchange of the students that like spent the semester at the other place. Yeah. They exchange to the prisoners at midfield. Yeah. That's a nice moment. Good coin flip. Also shout out Washington winning the first bowl game. They slipped that one in.

Wait, what? Oh, yeah. Washington kicked the shit out of Boise. Oh, let's go. On Saturday night. Let's go, Huskies. Did not know that. They slipped that one in.

That's a fucked. I bet. I've got another problem with that. This Saturday is for Army Navy only. Yes, PFT. I bet the game and I didn't watch a snap. I had Boise. Oh, I had watching.

Oh, also who's back, the Lowman Trophy. Yeah. Because the Heisman trophy, they get all the ballots in before the Army Navy game. with the low man trophy that is a very important game to the final low man voting tallies When are we going to do it? We're sending the ballots out this week

When should we do it? I don't know. Good question. Are we doing it on the show? Or are we doing our own show? We could do it on part of my take as part of part of my take or we could do it on a live stream

Whether it's on Mega Day or if it's... Or it could be New Year's Day. It could be on New Year's Day. A New Year's Day trophy. Yeah, we do New Year's Day. All right, so if you're a low man trophy voter, the ballots will be going out this week. And I've got to be honest, I think there's like probably four fullbacks in the country. Okay.

So if you play fullback in college, you're on the watch list for the low man trophy. Now there's-tweet us and let us know why you should win the low man. No, there's two guys. I think it's going to be a two-man race. I don't want to impact the voting, but there's two guys that got my eye on. It's going to be one of those two that win. But the ballots will go out this week. But yeah, if you play, if you've taken like 40,

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That's code PMT2 for free lottery credits on Jackpocket. Number three. I got it. 22. Colton. 100. Colton's in the booth. Oh, Colton.

Colton's in the booth. Oh, Colton. Colton, what if? We hate memes. Memes. What's up? This is Colton's first. No, you guessed.

Colton, did you guess over... Yeah, he was here. He was here. When was it? Camp week. Oh, Camp week. So you've guessed a couple times. What happens if Colton gets it before you, memes?

I like Colton. For now. Yeah. No, I like Colton. I mean, right now, at this moment. But if you got it, you would... I'd be ecstatic for him. Destroy him.

Colton, you have to be a little nervous that if you get this, memes is going to hate your guts. Don't let him tear us apart here, Colton. I'm always nervous about memes hate it. me that's good actually really good life advice right there colin what's your number 10 10 i'm room for you i'm gonna go with two i'll go with 100 for dj more with eight i'll go with 99 put i'm gonna go nine for nine 44 that's good that's a good one yeah nine nine you didn't think about that i feel good it's probably it's probably it's probably okay close your guess 22.

The twos. Oh, 20. Should we do one more, though? Sure. Let's do one more. How close are we? 20. I just say 20 all the time.

We got to be close, right? 100. Oh, yeah, yeah. Let me pull that up. That's on me. I think it's less than 40. We are 39 guesses away. Probably 38 now.

Wow. I already guessed it correct. No, you did it. No, you didn't get it. You never got a memes. Yes, I did. Never got a memes. Yes, I did.

Never got a memes. Yes, I did. 64. Anybody? Anybody, anybody? Anybody? 64. It says right here, memes has never won on the website.

Nope. He hasn't. Career stats, zero point zero percent. That's like you next Saturday. Oh. Boom. Has never won? Be careful.

Steve's roast time. You're getting sucked and fucked next Saturday. I'll take the sucking. But you're doing both. I'm sucking. No, you told me I was getting sucked and fucked. No, you're hitting the pterdactyl. That's like three dicks and one hand.

A great Saturday for me. Love you guys. What if we just beat Oregon, though? You're not. What if we did? Nope. Do you understand how cool it would be? Nope.

It'd be the fucking best. You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be able to be. You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be.