Pardon My Take - NFL Week 15, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bills Statement Win, Eagles Dominate The Steelers, The Broncos Incredible Turnaround And More

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Week 15 and we start with Fastest 2 minutes. We then recap every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:08:43) Commanders 20, Saints 19 (00:08:43-00:17:02) Chiefs 21, Browns 7 (00:17:02-00:26:03) Bengals 3...7, Titans 27 (00:26:03-00:32:31) Cowboys 30, Panthers 14 (00:32:31-00:38:09) Ravens 35, Giants 14 (00:38:09-00:42:42) Jets 32, Jaguars 25 (00:42:42-00:55:26) Texans 20, Dolphins 12 (00:55:26-01:01:21) Cardinals 30, Patriots 17 (01:01:21-01:08:12) Bucs 40, Chargers 17 (01:11:01-01:19:05) Broncos 31, Colts 13 (01:19:05-01:27:26) Eagles 27, Steelers 13 (01:27:26-01:42:42) Bills 48, Lions 42 (01:42:42-01:48:31) Packers 30, Seahawks 13 (01:48:31-01:54:33) We then finish with who's back of the week including what is going on with Lebron (01:54:33-02:05:09).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take. It is week 15 in the NFL. We've got a lot of games to talk about. Bill's Lions, Bill's maybe the best team in the NFL. Eagles statement win. Pills, maybe the best team in the NFL. Eagles statement win. Chiefs go into 13 and one. PFTU surviving in the Dome. Survived the Dome. Survived the Dome. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings.
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Starting point is 00:01:51 Get 150 and bonus bets if your bet wins when you bet just five bucks. Happy holidays from draft Kings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 16th, Week 15. We start in Nashville where running back Chase Antonio Brown got to CTE. See the end zone as the Bengals were fighting for their playoff hopes. The Hennessey Titans came out hot and looked to be in it until Spill Levis left a brown stain in his pants throwing three picks. But what's that? What's that?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Is that Mason Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer's music? Oh my god it is! Who comes in relief to save the season and he threw a pick the Bengals stay alive thanks to Sam I am Hubbard saying I do like touchdown passes Sam I am Bengals 37 Titans 27 what over to New York where Rashad master Bateman shot out a couple seeds and permanently ended the Giants season there's been a lot of talk about dangerous flying objects in New Jersey, as both Tim Boyle and Tommy DeVito attempted passes on Sunday, furthering concerns residents of the Garden State. LaMartha Stewart Jackson might be getting older, but that butt don't quit, as he did unspeakable things to the
Starting point is 00:03:20 New York Stock Exchange Giants on the way to a blowout. Ravens 35, the G-man 14. In Carolina where Cowboys ride receiver Creed D. Lamb couldn't be snapped while on the other side of the line Micah Parsons saying, my Sakura the Bryce. Absolutely destroying the tiny young, making him regret his pro choice. The lone highlight for Carolina came when the offense got a huge bump from Jalen Coker to end the first half, but they were only able to return to the bathroom slash end zone one more time in the second half. Cowboys 30, Panthers 14, and we head down to Florida where memes is there for the Jets Jaguars tilt.
Starting point is 00:04:03 In Florida where Aaron Rodgers committed several HIPAA violations against the Vaxenville Jabuars throwing for three touchdowns, Devontae Diggs Adams at the half said, give me the ball or I will dust your ass, biatch. Brian Rob Thompson said, baby, baby it's 1pm I must be lonely. In the end zone with the Jaguars only touchdowns. The end zone was calling for Trevor Etienne Etienne to come home with the help of from the Wizard of Ass Doug Peterson, but fell short. Jets 32 Jaguars 25. Thank you memes. We go to Tampa where Mike L. Angelo Evans is experiencing a renaissance as he
Starting point is 00:04:41 painted a masterpiece with 159 yards and the Bucks had a nice little package featuring Levante's statue of David. In a touching tribute to Max Delente, Justin Hurtbert suffered another ankle injury after taking way too many shots. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin-McConkie's offensive efforts were stalling as the Chargers' offense continues to lack real and Russian threats. Los Angeles Laker Mayfield and Lebronte David are back from their unexplained absence from earlier this season, leaving Judge Judy saying he didn't just beat us, did he?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Bucks 40, Chargers 17. We head out west where Hank is out there for the Cardinals and Patriots game. Out West where Hank is out there for the Cardinals and Patriots game in Arizona in the first quarter Rekyler Murray said it gets to a point dude after Craig Luke Dorch fumbled the ball into the end zone But it was recovered by Jonah Hill Williams for a touchdown and he said I'll tell you what I'm never eating at a Benihana again I don't care whose birthday it is Drake K. Rowling May was a sorcerer with a stone all day throwing for a TD to Demario Douglas Dimmadome owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome and running for another in the fourth quarter but it wasn't enough to take down the Cardinals and
Starting point is 00:05:58 James Sean Connery who said winners go home and fuck the prom queen after stealing the victory with two fourth quarter scores Cardinals win 30 17 over to Pennsylvania where Max Delente who's on the IR Was that the game? We had over to Philadelphia where Kenneth to chains well had everyone saying oh Yeah, baller alert little Steelers a bitch and are now on fraud alert. TJ Squat had the weight of the whole team on his back as seemingly he was the only Steeler to show up to Philly today. Jalen, skrtskrts, played like an absolute savage today and had all the haters in Philly
Starting point is 00:06:37 eating their words. Eagles 27, Steelers 13. We go over to Detroit where Josh Ray Allen was getting there, switching back and forth between throwing and passing touchdowns on the Lions D Sunday. Dan John Skipper ran furiously towards the white line but claimed it was the first time he tried it as he scored a touchdown in the first half. Sean McDermottologist was able to help James Cook with his hair loss as the Buffalo Bills Clintons pulled out their victory cigar against the Detroit Leonskis and their snazzy blue dress.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Bills 48, the Lions 42. Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see It's Carson Wentz locked up for arson since he burned down Washington DC Come on my Homes you've got some strong Bones the sky cam looks just like the alien Drones Chiefs 21, Browns 7, and that is the fastest two minutes for week 15 brought to you by our friends at Chevy.
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Starting point is 00:08:51 truck, the Chevy Silverado. Okay. Week 15 in the books, boys, we had a lot of football, got a lot of football to talk about. Early was tough. There was a moment early where we were watching, uh, Jay Kainer, Spencer Rattler, Tim Boyle, Tommy DeVito, DTR. Who am I missing? Mac Jones, Mac Jones, Cooper rush. Um, it got ugly for a little bit there. Yeah. Carson Wentz, Mason Rudolph, Will Levis. Yeah, it was, it was ugly for a little bit there. Yeah Carson Wentz Mason Rudolph will levis Yeah, it was it was ugly for a little bit there, but we got we got some great games in the afternoon but we're gonna we're gonna recap them all and
Starting point is 00:09:32 We'll start with Pft you surviving the dome commanders 20 Saints 19. Yeah, holy shit You almost got screwed with the clock But also if Darren Rizzi had maybe started Spencer rattler instead of Jake Hayner who I don't think I've ever seen a quarterback Like we watch all types of quarterbacks Jake Hayner. It actually looks like a dangerous for him to be out there Yeah, he looks like an acrobat back there. Yeah, we're the black tights It looked like he was wearing lululemon athletic pants instead of football pants. It was the the pictures of Jake Hayner I was nervous about it because I could not lose to Jake Hayner No, that's a loss that will follow you around but Hayner's gonna hate I guess because he was he was not good
Starting point is 00:10:15 No, he's bad. He was not good. And then Spencer Rattler got in and looked pretty decent actually I I thought that Jayden played pretty well he missed a couple wide open bombs to Terry McLaurin by like a Total of probably total of eight inches away from three more touchdown passes. Yeah, so we had our chances missed some of the chances Defense played good enough at the end when they got the ball down to like the two yard line and the clock just stopped With nine seconds left. I was screaming. I was going nuts. I don't know how that happens I don't know. I guess it's in the dome. It was crazy. The dome clock operator. So after the game Sean Hockley was like, yeah, that shouldn't have happened. Our bad. Sorry about that. Almost cost you the game. Almost cost us the game. If you had the commander's minus seven, you should be eligible to sue Roger Goodell. Yeah, you should agree. You should demand restitution from him for that because that was dirty what happened at the end of that game. But Darren Rizzi's field goal defense remains excellent. Mm-hmm. So we missed a field goal at the very end from like 50 some yards and
Starting point is 00:11:13 we missed a field goal at the end of the third quarter that didn't count and because I guess the clock had expired before it was snapped. So then he got to kick it again at the start of the fourth corner. Rizzi was not happy about that. He said, I've coached kickers for 30 years, and I can tell you if they get a practice shot, they're going to make the second one more often than not. So, um, listen, not going to apologize for a win. No, it's hard to win on the road in this league. That was a gay. It was the weirdest game because it was with JK and her in,
Starting point is 00:11:42 it was never in doubt. And it was like, the commanders are going to cakewalk to this one It's easy and then they put in Spencer rattler and there was you know seven games going on So you kind of lose track and you look up you're like, oh shit. The commanders are in one right now Yeah, and you can't lose this game So it was awesome to see Latimore out there because Marsha and Latimore played for the first time against his old team the Saints They didn't throw out him a single time smart catches no yards
Starting point is 00:12:07 No targets that also might be because of the quarterbacks playing probably also because the quarterback but they threw to other guys Yeah, they just didn't target him at all Mike Sanders still I love that dude. He's come on strong I'm uh, I'm a little bit. I'm apprehensive about the Eagles next week the commanders They're they're a good team, but I don't think that they're where they, they're not going to win a playoff game if they keep playing like this. Yeah. So listen, they're nine and five. The commanders are not season for the first time since 1992. Wow. That's pretty crazy. So I'm, I'm happy. I could have dealt with like a little bit less
Starting point is 00:12:41 stress today, but overall I did find myself saying though, like right after the game, I started doing the playoff machine thing. There's a possibility we get the 60. And avoid the Eagles. The Eagles are banged up though. I'm going to need you to beat the Packers week 18. It's again, I you keep it. You keep saying that there's it's not gonna happen. That's the key to all this. It's not gonna happen. That's the key to all this. So it ain't gonna happen. Yeah a win is a win wait That's you guys winning out and the Packer and the Bears beating the Packers. Yeah, no, I You got to move on from something else. I'm you got it. You got to move on to something else. That's just not gonna happen
Starting point is 00:13:15 Don't waste any energy on that if you guys win tomorrow, then we're not going to win tomorrow. We're not gonna win another game But yeah, that was it was crazy because I was I'm sure you felt the same way. We're like, wait, what's happening right now? Why is this a game? How is this possibly a game right now? A few things like again, Terry McLaurin could have had three more touchdown catches. Yeah. There was a few of those very, very slight overthrows. The big, the big issue for the commanders, I don't think we'll stick around. And that's like the running game suck today with the exception of, of Jayden just tucking in and going 20 yards whenever he felt like it But our center was out and we couldn't block anybody so we couldn't get Brian Robinson to run game going
Starting point is 00:13:53 So hopefully when he gets back, I'm still I I feel like this could be an inbound shit pumping because I thought we were gonna Womp the Saints. Yeah, and it was not a Womp It was a Womp for until Spencer Atler showed up. And again, I don't know what the hell Rizzi thought he was going to get a spark with. Also, did you see Rizzi like caressing the back of Jay Caner's head? That doesn't really help Jake Aner. I did that to Blake this morning. That same move like scratch on the back of the head. Yeah, that was weird. Who's a good quarter. I
Starting point is 00:14:19 didn't really understand that. But yeah, I listen. Hey, next week. Anything anyone can win any game? Yeah, it's at home. Listen, when I was are banged up, Max has got one foot. Yeah, Max is banged up. But I, we can get to that later. I think that the foot thing might be a good thing for Max. Really? I think it might be good vibes. Like everyone's banged up. Like you said, Max absolutely gritting out a foot injury to do a podcast. True. True. Also, your win today officially eliminated the Bears. Oh, sorry. So that's okay. I mean, they should, they really need to change the end of the hunt and just be like, teams that are not eliminated, but everyone knows they're eliminated, just
Starting point is 00:15:00 eliminate them. Yeah, come on. Just be like, Hey, they're eliminated. Yeah. are eliminated just eliminate them yeah come on just just be like hey we they're eliminated yeah like stop fucking around this is stupid Spencer Rattler maybe the future I don't know I mean I would probably not I would without doubt start him next week yeah oh definitely I don't understand how you get to Jay Kainer no I don't I don't know how that decision took place when watching him it's seriously it felt like a danger to him when he got sacked he he looked so much smaller than everyone else and you're
Starting point is 00:15:28 like this is a problem he's gonna be in like bodily harm every time he takes a snap yeah he was like a crash test on me his ankles were like ending up over his head yeah got sacked somehow yeah so okay good good win needed that win what's the playoff percentage at we We get max. What'd you make that face for? Not a good win. I mean, that wasn't a good way. Everyone had to win that game. Did win that game. How about that? Had to win that game. Did win that. Correct. Yeah. I'm not gonna apologize. What's the commander's chances of getting in 82%? Yeah. I mean, if they had lost that game, it would have been very, very bad, but I don't
Starting point is 00:16:04 know if I don't know if that counts this week because it says right there. It's got the New Orleans Saints symbol No, it does it counts this week. Okay, okay 82 percent's pretty fucking good 82 percent's good. I'm happy listen This is the season was supposed to be the season before the season who you guys have after the Eagles We get the Eagles and the Falcons. That's right. Cowboys right and the Rams have the Jets I believe yeah who they could be hot memes is smiling again All it took was one Jets win for memes to be like he put Aaron Rodgers head back on his he just keeps Doing AI of me on different famous handy or wheelchair people Like who Stephen Hawking he just face swapped me and sister Jean
Starting point is 00:16:45 If you could forward that to the group chat names, yeah, that'd be nice I would like to see all those arts to just hold off the Rams PFT. I know hold off the ram I'm doing everything that I can't yeah off the Rams have Jets Cardinals see hawks. It's gonna be tough. Listen, I'm excited I'm happy. This is awesome for me. And also also we might have Seahawks with Gino We just watched that. He might be in trouble. He might be in trouble. Yeah, significant trouble. Yeah. Yeah. No, you should be happy. I'm very happy and I'm not going to apologize for winning. I'm enjoying this season. It's been great. You needed that win. You got that one. Yep. That's all that matters. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Next up, Chiefs 21 Brown 7. Chiefs finally win a game easily. The big story though is, well, there's two big stories. Patrick Mahomes high ankle sprain. Do we believe it? Do we think it matters? Because I feel like this happens to him once a year and he ends up being totally fine and everyone's like, oh man, he's banged up, but it'll be fine. So do we believe it? I think no, I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah. He has the ability to just go back and like hover over a medical device kit like in a video game for a little bit And he just recharges. Yeah, I mean even if he misses a game they they're 13 and 1 there are two games up on the on the By so like they could afford the one bad thing for him is they play Saturday and Wednesday Yeah, so that's not exactly an easy schedule if you have a high ankle sprain. But the Chiefs could realistically sit him for a game, let him get healthy, and then win the last two games and still get the one seat.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah, the NFL is not going to let Patrick Mahomes sit out on Christmas. No, no, absolutely not. It happened in the Super Bowl. Carson Wentz was like, he's going to be here for the Super Bowl. And he went in halftime, got the super steroids, and was fine. Yeah, it didn't happen in a playoff game against the
Starting point is 00:18:27 Well, yeah, it was one where I was like it looks bad. Yeah, it's really bad once a locker room. He was fine Yeah, yeah, so what who do they have on Christmas Day again? They have the Steelers They play the Texans on Saturday and the Steelers on Wednesday. There's zero percent chance that Carson Wentz He'll be the ones who stole Christmas. Yeah, they can't they cannot let us have Carson Wentz on Christmas. But the bigger story is it might be over for Jamis in Cleveland. We needed something from him today in Cleveland needed to see him play against the chief's defense was insane today. They were, they had a six, six turnovers. They had a bunch of sacks. They were also the third, uh, worst team in terms of takeaways going into this game. So they had 10 going
Starting point is 00:19:19 into the game. They got six just today. And, uh, yeah, that when you get benched for DTR, it's bad. He was, I'll say this. If you watch this game, the chief's defensive line was on fire and James had no time. So no one would have been able to handle that. Also, he continues to be delivered from pick sixes. Yeah. I think two of his interceptions were thrown into the opponent's end zone, which is as far away from a pick six as get. Yep. So he's improving. You know what? I'm okay with Jamis just like traveling the United States playing for various teams. Yeah. You know, like every fan base should be so lucky to have an experience like Jamis Winston for a season as a bridge quarterback. I don't know what's going to happen now. I, it, getting benched for DTR is bad. Maybe it was just,
Starting point is 00:20:04 we need to see a different look in this game Maybe there was also one one of the interceptions. I think was Trent McDuffie's Yeah He said after the game that he saw Jamis throw it to his side of the field on the video board during the play So he turned his head around so he's cheating so he's cheating Yeah, you can see it also on the replay of it from the end zone angle He's he's trailing his guy into the end zone He looks up at the video board in the end zone angle. He's trailing his guy into the end zone. He
Starting point is 00:20:25 looks up at the video board in the end zone and then he turns his head around to intercept. That's cheating. That's cheating. You shouldn't be allowed to do that. That shouldn't count as a pick against Jameis. No, it shouldn't. That's a pick against the Jumbotron. Yeah. The Browns are just a bummer to watch. And it is, this is so Chiefs that they finally had a game where it was like never a worry. They still didn't look like incredible because Patrick Mahomes is under fire. Their offensive line is a problem,
Starting point is 00:20:50 but they have no problems taking care of the Browns. They're 13-1 and then they're like, hey, let's just throw in a Patrick Mahomes ankle injury just so that we can get the haters and doubters back out. And then after the game was over, to make matters worse for Browns fans, they leaked a story that Deshaun Watson might come back and compete to be the starting quarter next year. Why? They're not closing the door on Deshaun. Why? What was his injury? Achilles? He should never be in a room with door closed. Yeah, it was Achilles. This is, I'm just bummed about Jamis. I'm really bummed about Jamis. Where does
Starting point is 00:21:23 he go? Memes wants him on the Jets. Yeah, he wants him as a bridge quarterback who wins the Super Bowl on the jets. That's actually a really that's the perfect bridge quarterback. Alright, so let's find a landing home for Jamis next year. Maybe the Saints. Go back to New Orleans. Saints would be good. I actually wouldn't hate him on the Seahawks as G knows back up. Yeah, that'd be fun. He should actually you know where he should go. He should go to the dolphins. If, if James was on the dolphins this year, they wouldn't have lost all the games the two was out for. That's true. And then still be alive. And he would take shots. He would, he would try to find Tyreek. Right. He wouldn't do this stupid dump off, uh, offense
Starting point is 00:21:59 that they showed us today. Yeah. Chiefs. Chiefs. Get him a get him a ring. That would be great. I'd be fine with Jamis ring chasing. Uh huh. I have a question. Yeah. Eagles. Do you get do you guys get nervous about him going to a team that you can't rhyme the Jamis song with? We can figure it out. We can figure it out. Because I get worried. I'm not something that gets you worried. Yeah. That's what that's what I think of I mean we it's down in Cuyahoga now So it's like you can take a something I know that was a good one. Hey, but we just find a city near wherever he's playing Just a random city. I get nervous of him like going to the Packers cuz that would suck Yeah, we're going to a place where he couldn't root for him. Yeah, that's what I would hate that would that would really suck
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, if you went to the Eagles, mm-hmm, That would suck or went to the Cowboys. That'd be bad He It's just bad. It's a bad. It's a bummer Although and there's something about the Browns to like it's extra bummer because late season Browns games the weather just so Gross. Yeah, and just the game looks disgusting If he went to the Cowboys, I'll be fun for a little bit because you could just, I would just lean into like bench-dack Prescott. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So James. Yeah, James is so much better. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what we're gonna do. I don't know what, it feels like a crisis though. Mahomes limping off. Yeah, I mean, if it's a high ankle sprain for real,
Starting point is 00:23:23 that's not, he does do these crazy, have you seen his workouts where he's like, he does the off season workouts where he's just twisting himself constantly. I feel like that does keep him like very healthy routinely, but high ankle sprain for two games, three games in 10 days is not exactly what you want if you're the chiefs. No. And also for the Browns, it was just a bummer day for the Browns because Nick Chubb out for the season. Yeah, broke his
Starting point is 00:23:49 foot. And that might be I don't want to say his career. But it definitely how old is Nick Chubb? I just feels like he's that old. But yeah, it seems like him and he's had so many injuries. He's gonna be he's gonna be 29 in a week. Yeah. So I got a question for you bummer Where was Taylor Swift today? Does she not at the game? Does she hate Cleveland cuz I my thought was the two biggest stars in the world both refused to go to Cleveland
Starting point is 00:24:14 Taylor Swift Marlins man. That's the only place that Marlins man won't go. That's true that what is it about Cleveland? I thought keeping all the stars out. I thought she was in Cleveland Dante the Don said that he was trying to get her to go to John Boy in Cleveland. Well this weekend was he just Well, I guess it was her birthday, okay, so What? What I just that's funny that he was trying to get her to go to he was like job boy Yeah, save a table for her. Yeah, I mean he was You got a dream. It's a great
Starting point is 00:24:45 place to have a birthday. Yeah. So I thought, I thought she was there, but no, she, she didn't go to the game. Oh wow. That's in he from, yeah. Yeah. Travis was from Cleveland. So that was like, it was like a big deal that it was, you know, maybe his last game in Cleveland. Where was Marlins man today? Where was Marlins man? Was he with Taylor Swift? That was the big question is where was Marlins man? Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if they were. The official word from Stadium Security
Starting point is 00:25:10 is that Taylor Swift is not attending today's game. Interesting. Interesting. But she was in Cleveland, according to my sources, Don to the Don. This weekend. So she decided not to go. That really just tells you.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Was he trying to get you to help? No, no. He just tweeted. I just saw him tweet it I think you probably thought that she since the chiefs were in town. She might be there and it was her birthday So he was like, yeah her birthday dinner and then we're gonna try to get her go to John boy It's like fuck. Let's do it Let me find let me find the tweet. I listen you're laughing but hey, he's a businessman
Starting point is 00:25:43 Oh, yeah, like it that would be unbelievable if that had happened Yeah, it would have been incredible to popped off He might have deleted the tweet shit. Well, he's gonna be mad at you Hank for laughing at this. I Love Dante. I love John boy. I John boys a great bar Also great ratio for any any any guys out there not anymore But they have a farm thinking Taylor So I'm just gonna go to John boy for a birthday. It's crazy. Why not you're in
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah, where else you're gonna go? It's true. That's true. Yeah, okay next game Bengals 37 Titans 27 Bengals still alive some the Bengals it could happen It could happen. There is there is a path for the Bengals, it could happen. It could happen. There is a path for the Bengals now. Yeah, it's unfortunately at expense of the Chargers, which I will get to, but I'm going to admit the Chargers are not going to win the Super Bowl or maybe even get to the playoffs. So look at the Broncos' schedule though. Look at the, it might be more at the expense of the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Because the Broncos, they do play the Chargers next week I think. And then they play the Bengals, right? And they play the Bengals, and I think they play the Chiefs too. Right. Who they might, the Chiefs will most likely have everything wrapped up so they probably won't play anyone. Yeah. But still.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It could happen. It could happen. The Bengals, this was a game where like at the beginning of the game it was like what the fuck is going on they're down 14-7 and Joe Burrow's throwing a pick and everything looks weird and then it's like oh, yeah, that's right Unfortunately, it's will Levis first Joe burrow and he'll just throw some some interceptions your way Bengals and you'll be fine the Bengals even had a We had to Deshaun Jackson moments today one which we'll talk about later that was very significant, but the Bengals, like they, they had no problem winning this game, even though they started as slow as you could
Starting point is 00:27:30 start. Yeah. This one was an unintentional, unintentional, Sean Jackson. You just kind of run around with it. He got excited at the one yard line. Yeah. Freaked out. Um, I thought the, the better defensive player running with the ball in this game was Tavadre Sweat. Oh yeah. So our guy, Stathole posted this. I think it's true. That's the heaviest player to ever run with a football in NFL history. He sent me that too. And Ted Washington, I feel like was heavier. I don't know. To Vandrea sweat is 366 pounds. He might
Starting point is 00:27:56 be. Yeah. And, and I'll tell you what, uh, he's faster than I am. The, the stiff arm he threw on Alex Kappa was ferocious. Yeah. Ferocious. And he was, I love when a big guy picks up the ball and he's like, I may never get this again. I'm going to the house. Yeah. He made the most.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And he was maybe 60 yards away from getting to the house, but he was trying to go to the house. So the league has an abundance of sweat on defense. Yeah. They got Montez, Tavandre and Josh sweat. Yep. On defense. This is probably the sweatiest the leagues ever been. Yep
Starting point is 00:28:25 It's awesome. It was an awesome run and We also are just gonna continue the Joe burrow should should be in the MVP discussion, but his team sucks because Joe burrow six straight games with three plus passing touchdowns and He is now six straight games, 250 plus passing yards, three plus touchdowns. Only other person to do that is Tom Brady. He's insane. It's insane how good he's been and they're not going to make it in the playoffs, but he's been incredible. Yep. And the Titans, good luck. Good luck with the rest of your season. I vote that we should probably put the Titans with the Jaguars
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, we'll find something else to talk. We don't need to talk about them anymore They're probably not gonna win another game. I would say oh no, they play the Jaguars So I guess that game on Thursday I don't think it's a Thursday should be you should flex that to Thursday like a doubleheader Thursday that should be played at 4 p.m Yeah, yeah, it's like the, Titans are the 6 6 pick right now. There's so many bad so many bad. So how many teams have three wins right now? There are the Patriots, the Jags, the Panthers, the Titans, the Browns. So that's what five teams. And then there's another
Starting point is 00:29:40 two teams with four wins and two teams. So there's, there's nine teams with four less wins. Damn. It's a lot of bad teams. Passing Panthers are good three win teams though. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. For three win teams. They're good. One of the best three win teams in history. Out of that group. Yeah, like I'd pass some Panthers are the future is bright. Okay. Would you power rankings? You'd say they're the top three wind team? Yeah. I
Starting point is 00:30:09 mean, the pandas have been coming on strong, but I would say it's, it's new England and Carolina Cleveland. No, which is, they just got rid of, they don't even have a quarterback. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Ah, by the way, shout out Sam Hubbard because he scored a touchdown, which is very cool Also got hurt on that which sucked and it like in reading the tea leaves He he might be a cap casualty this year, which would suck because he's you know been a Bengals Legend for them for however long now But if that was his last play for the Bengals kind kind of a cool way to go out scoring a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. What was the injury that he had? I think he said possible PCL. Oh, that's not good. But it was like a contested catch, too. It was an awesome catch. It was great. Yeah. So that does suck for him. But if if it's the end, that's a very cool moment to have it be the end. I don't there's no way the Bengals are making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:31:02 What's their odds? There's no way the Bengals were like 3% I mean we all want them to make the playoffs just because it'd be so much fun. It is there is a path though. I Don't believe the percentage that I saw earlier my personal math I did the math in my head. I've got him at 24% I have him at 5% They're at 5% 5% There's no chance it's too low. It's wait. It's wait. It's a at 5%? 5%. There's no chance. It's too low. It's way too... It's a big 5%. It's a huge 5%.
Starting point is 00:31:29 It's a long 5. I just want them to at least be able to keep saying like we're still alive until the very end so they can keep trying as hard as they can. We have killed them like nine times. Yeah. And Joe Burrow's going to probably end, if he plays the rest of the season, which I would assume he will, uh, he's going to probably lead the league in passing yards and touchdowns. So he's had an incredible year and they just, man, that's, it's gotta be the most torturous feeling to look back at that schedule and be like, how do we lose this game? How do we, let's do that real quick. Sorry, sorry, Bengals fans. You're going to want to maybe, uh, skip ahead
Starting point is 00:32:03 here. Uh, Let's do the top one. Top three. How do they lose that game? Yeah. Week one to the Patriots. Number one on the list. Week one of the Patriots. Um, let's see. Oh, the Chargers game was pretty bad too. That Chargers game was bad. I think maybe the Ravens. Ravens 35 34 both Ravens 41 38. Yeah. The Steelers and Chiefs Chiefs game when they got screwed by the refs. Ravens 35 34 both. And Ravens 41 38. Yeah. The Steelers and Chiefs Chiefs game when they got screwed by the refs. All they needed was one.
Starting point is 00:32:30 If one of these changed and you could look at the commander's game week three and say like if they had if we had forced them to punt one time. Yeah. We could have won that game. Yeah. If we had taken the commander seriously. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 OK. Next up Cowboys Panthers Cowboys 30 Panthers 14 Hank credit to you. You're exactly right. Thank you. Let's not have the Panthers be favorites anymore Thank you. Yeah, sir. He's stupid with 33 weeks in a row that they were underdogs. Yep should have been 34 Yep, that was that was an oversight by Las Vegas. Yep, but yeah the Cooper Rush looked pretty good today I guess I think he realized I should just continue to throw the ball to Ralph Wiggum, city lamb. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Ralph Wiggum feed him the ball. Enrico Dowdle is awesome. Yeah. He had like 149 yards. He's been awesome. Uh, the, the Cowboys defense was all over Bryce young.
Starting point is 00:33:22 He like had no, especially in the second half, felt like he had no time. Uh, Bryce Young kind of, I mean, not a day you want to forget. Uh, he's, he's gone, he's done a lot better, but this was definitely a day he wants to forget because he had four turnovers or six sacks. He was just harassed the entire game. And I, I think if you just keep getting the ball to dowdle, it makes it a little turpentine too. Yeah. Because he's dynamic with the ball in his face. Yeah, and then every now and then just be like Zeke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You need two yards, Zeke will get you one. I think they put Zeke in just to make Jerry Jones happy. I feel like he had one good. Just to make Jerry feel young. I feel like he had one good play. I feel like I looked up and I was like, oh shit, Zeke. And he wasn't tackled for a loss. His longest rush was five yards. There we go. Oh yeah. You know, it was his, uh, he caught
Starting point is 00:34:11 one ball for 11 yards. He's back. That's huge. He's, it's like depressing watching Ezekiel Elliott run with a football in his hands. Yeah. You think he's happy though? Like, no, like, no, probably not. But he gets at least like he shouldn't be on an NFL roster anymore. And at least he gets to keep catching a paycheck. Yeah, they did the rare bring him back and then pay him for his service that he provided you over the years. Yeah. Usually that doesn't happen. Usually you give some guy a contract who's still on your team. Like in the NBA, this happened. Yeah, Jerry's good to his guys. Yeah, yeah, your guys. But to bring someone back and then give them like a retirement contract is crazy. Yeah Rico Dottle was 25 carries 149 yards 6 yards carry Zeke they gave it to him 9 times for 30 yards 3.3 yards for carry. Mm-hmm. That's really nice
Starting point is 00:34:56 That's really nice that they did that for him. Yeah, uh Let your let your oldest dog have like a t-bone steak. Yeah, like okay. This might be your last last week Yeah, let's make you feel good by the way The Cowboys won three straight and I think Mike McCarthy or no they've sorry they've they've won three out of last four at the Bengals game obviously with the Leon let play but Are they've saved Mike McCarthy's job? I think they might have I think I think he might be coming back next season This is a game that if they lose then you you would think, okay, time to get rid
Starting point is 00:35:28 of Mike. Right. But I think he's done enough where they'll bring him back. And then Steven Jones was talking about how, uh, like they need to figure out what they did wrong, uh, the different procedures and mechanisms that need to be put in place as a front office to make sure that they can turn this around. It's still going to be Jerry and Steven Jones making all the decisions. Yes. So it's going to be Jerry and Stephen Jones, right? All the decisions. Yes. So it's going to continue to be fucked. And they said, I think it's going to be tight
Starting point is 00:35:50 this offseason because they don't have a lot of money. Yeah. Which is what they always are at. Yeah. Well, they couldn't get Derek Henry last year. You couldn't get Derek Henry. He wasn't a fit. No. Also, shout out to Cowboys and Mike McCarthy for at least attempting a 70 yard field goal. There should be more of that in the NFL. It was great. It was nice to see. I actually think that he can make that. I do too. Maybe not outside, but I would agree. Indoors, I think Brandon Aubrey could make
Starting point is 00:36:14 that. It's just fun to attempt it. Like we haven't had that since Janikowski. I just want to see it. Every time there's a 70 yard field goal, you're like, Holy shit, everyone's stopped. Let's watch this. The Janikowski field goal was especially funny 76. It was 76 yards at the end of the half I think and I it probably landed 15 yards short into the left Yeah, this one he also hooked to the left a little bit But I think just give him that's your purpose for the rest of the season Mike McCarthy Let's let's have him break the NFL record for longest field goal. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? But credit to you, Hank. You were right. The Panthers as, as, as better they've been playing better football should never be favorites.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah. Never ever be favorite. Also there was a report that came out today, Stefan Diggs. Uh, he's going to need like massive Trayvon. Oh yeah. Yeah. Trayvon digs going to need massive, massive surgery. Oh, keeping him out maybe into next year. Trayvon. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Trayvon Diggs going to need massive, massive surgery. Oh, keep him out. Maybe into next year. So it's it's things are not looking good in Dallas. We were watching the Janikowsky. Yeah, he was so sure I miss it to the right.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah, he missed it so, so short. But it was awesome. They attempted. Was that Lane Kiffin? I think it was. I think Lane Kiffin was the coach of the Raiders on more of that. We need more of that in the NFL. Why not just the fuck it 70 yarder? Let's give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Um, all right. Anything else? I mean, these are these early games were just like, like I said, we we went through it and we're just like, what are we watching? Like to all these games? There's no there's not a lot of teams that have winning records. But the Cowboys, again, they're they're six and eight I wouldn't have expected to be six and eight at this point of the season No, if you asked me a month ago Cooper Rush, he's been a good backup quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of putting it
Starting point is 00:37:56 I don't say putting it together. But yeah, he's putting it together as a backup quarterback. I think he's uh, he's handling business Yeah, relatively speaking. he's putting it together. He might be, if you had a better record going into the Cooper Rush experiment, he would be keeping you afloat. Treading water. Yeah. He would have been able to tread water for you. That's the thing is the, the Cowboys sucked before Dak got hurt.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah. So you can't be like, Oh, Dak got hurt. And CD lamb is still incredible. Uh, okay. Ravens 35, Giants 14. Uh, another one that was, oof, the New York Giants. So before the game, the new sign on the plane was Mr. Mara, enough, we won't stop until you fire everyone. Playing a drone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:40 It was a plane. No, that was one of the good aliens. Yeah. It was an alien that watched ball. Mr. Mara, enough, we won't stop until you fire everyone. It should be next week or whenever Yeah, it was a plane. No, that was one of the good aliens. Yeah, it was an alien that watched ball. Mr. Mayor, enough. We won't stop until you fire everyone. It should be next week or whenever their next home game is, their last home game in the
Starting point is 00:38:51 season. The tweet that was to start the second half that said, Tim Boyle is warming up as if he's going to play in the second half. No sign of Tommy DeVito out of the locker room. That's it. That's the Giants. That sentence right there is the New York Giants and it's as sad and bad as it gets. I like that because if you read that in like a sarcastic voice, it's very funny. It's like Tim Boyle is warming up as if he's going to get into this game.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. Yeah, no, he was. Tim Boyle's threatening to get into this game. Yeah, as if he, and he did. Bad times in New York, but credit to Lamar Jackson. Great game from Lamar today. More touchdowns and incompletions. Five touchdowns, four incompletions.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, is Lamar back in the MVP conversation? He absolutely is. I think Josh Allen is, I mean, what Josh Allen's done the last few weeks has been insane. But I know you have an MVP ticket on the mark. That's why I want to know if he's back in the conversation. I do too. I'm happy to help. All right, let's get going. Let's discuss it. People aren't mad at us at all about Travis Hunter. So let's just hop right back in. Let's have the conversation. National Sports Podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Second place. Right now. He's in the hunt. Yeah. And listen, if he just goes nuts for the last four games, who's to say who is odds schmods? All it all that matters is he's in second. He's one behind the leader odd schmods odd schmods It's what we say Lamar should be the MVP. Although I love Josh. I'm well, no, I'm willing to say right now He should not be the MVP. Okay, that's Josh Allen right now But I think he's lurking. I will help you if you need. No, you're not. I don't want to get greedy. I don't want to get greedy. All right. Well, I mean we would have voted for Ashton Gentile if we had a vote. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I think we all agree on that. Uh, yeah. We're shot Bateman's really good. That was the only other note I took. That's like finally, uh, it feels like the Ravens, they had that little lull and it feels like they're I mean We'll find out on Saturday when they play the Steelers because if they beat the Steelers It like kind of changes how the playoff picture might look And you know they could hop up into the three seed and it's like oh shit This is gonna be a packed top three not the Steelers aren't bad, but I I do think the Ravens are better and so this will be a very interesting question on Saturday because
Starting point is 00:41:10 Lamar has struggled against the Steelers so Back to what we talked about on Friday with this loss now They are oh and eight oh and a own and so they would be the first team to go and nine if they lose At home to the Colts. Yeah, which is like a double insult that it's the Colts that are going to do it to them. Potentially. Maybe not though. We don't know. Maybe they'll win.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I'm going to root for the Giants in that game. I don't want to see the Giants do that. Yeah, win one game. Give your fans one thing, like a happy Sunday to drive home with. Guy Who Flies the Plane, please do use that tweet though. Tim Boyle is warming up as if he's going in. Yeah. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Also, fun fact, Mark Andrews now is the franchise record holder for the Baltimore Ravens for touchdowns. That is a good fact. Good for him. Kind of crazy. Yeah, Jamal Lewis was the person he passed. This was maybe a get-right game for Justin Tucker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Extra points only. Yeah. Five for five. Yeah. It looked like it went right down the middle. Yeah felt good that he could see one go through Yeah, he saw five go through today. Yeah, it's gotta be good for the confidence. Yeah, this was not even I mean this was this game was it's it's rare that you have a 16-point spread in the NFL and you're like, yeah I'll take it. Yeah, never in doubt. Yeah fucking it's Tim Boyle And I mean Tim Boyle did do an okay job force
Starting point is 00:42:25 feeding it to Malik neighbors in the second half. Yeah. And Malik neighbors is good. Yeah. So and Malik neighbor. Okay, here we go. Giants fans Malik neighbors was seen warming up in the streets of New York with Shadour Sanders this weekend. Is that true? Yeah, they were throwing a ball. They were just playing catch. I mean that would be awesome for the Giants. Yeah. So that that's a little glimpse. Yeah, they got a little chemistry going. Yeah. Yeah, they were just playing catch. I mean, that would be awesome for the Giants. Yeah. So that's a little glimpse. Yeah, they got a little chemistry going. Yeah. Yeah, they were just throwing a little toss.
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Starting point is 00:45:39 just gonna throw the ball to him. And Devontae Adams in the second half, he had no catches in the first half. He had nine catches, 198 yards, two touchdowns. He had Devontae Adams in the second half. He had no catches in the first half. He had nine catches, 198 yards, two touchdowns. He had Devontae Adams had 145 yards in the final four minutes in regulation and memes. Are you back? Are you back? Unfortunately, not. It was almost every well, I'm back in on Rogers. Yeah, that's what I'm asking. I'm back in on Rogers. Yeah, I'm not asking if you're back like you guys have been eliminated from play I was asking for the future Rogers back
Starting point is 00:46:13 No, you're right. Yeah, you're eliminated. You have a quarter. I gotta remind you you're eliminated Yeah, but your team could be complete as a whole going into next year, right? Would be being back in my head. Okay, We don't have a coach. Unfortunately, our defense is bad. Yeah, it's all very bad. So I'll scarner was also bad. Got the game winning pick got the game winning pick. But he was very bad today as well. Okay, but are you back? I'm back on Rogers. I'm back in on Rogers. I'm dead. I'm dead. Put his fat head back up on the on you. Yeah, I didn't put him on his body, but he's next to.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Cause you had ripped it off. You'd ripped his head off his body. Yep, ripped it completely off. His arms are also gone. And then he, so are you putting him back on? His arms? Everything. Just the head.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I think the arms got thrown out. Okay. Okay. Did you throw him out? Yeah. Okay. So are you backing on Aaron Rodgers with Devante Adams? I'm backing on Aaron Rodgers if that means we get to keep Devante Adams, okay But we have to parent trap Devante Adams into staying what if something happens and Devante is not there next year
Starting point is 00:47:20 Still back on Aaron Rodgers No, oh We need both Yeah, who's daddy? Damn that was I mean it was incredible the second half. It was it felt like vintage Rogers and Vonte Adams felt like vintage Rogers the offense was clicking Garrett Wilson is still stud Alan L Lazard still can't catch. So there'd be another touchdown added onto that. There was a dot in there.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It was beautiful. Yeah, Jaguar's throwbacks were awesome. Doug Peterson's hair looked extra white. Yeah, they were great jerseys. And also I came to the conclusion that I don't think there's, maybe we could do a research topic on this, but I think Mac Jones might be the cockiest bad quarterback of all time.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Mm. Drew Locke. Drew Locke is cocky, but like not in a, Drew Locke has swagger. His highs are. And he also has swag. It's not like cockiness. That's like, like Mac Jones made, he had like a run today where he was like he was doing the decambe finger Rizler Yeah, he was doing everything. It's like dude. You're you're Mac Jones. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:48:33 He called this on retic a bitch. Yeah, like he is he's legitimately cocky for how bad he is Cuz you know, I mean like drew lock has swagger, but I don't I I don't, I don't think it, it think of it as like total cockiness. Mac Jones, like he'll talk shit to someone down on a three and 10 team down a million and cry and then cry. Yeah, look at this. Look at this. He did the Rizler. Oh wow. Yeah. He, he did a, I don't know if you have the finger wag. He did one where he was just like, he was doing the Dikembe finger wag at them. I need to sit down and think about this the the worst quarterbacks with the most confidence Yeah with it. It's not confidence is cockiness. It's it cuz confidence like I want confidence and And confidence is good, but he's cocky Johnny Manziel
Starting point is 00:49:20 Yeah, but he was so good in college. Yeah He was Johnny football. I mean Mac Jones is good in college, too. Yeah true He's just Jimmy G Yeah, he does Jimmy G wasn't cocky like he didn't yeah, no, she wasn't cocky didn't come off cocky. No, no Mac Jones is cocky You agree right? Oh, yeah for sure. It's crazy It's crazy to watch him play football and be like where why is he? He's like country club kid cocky Yeah, like he's rich kid cocky like yeah drew lock actually had possessed swag
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah, right. He's got aura Mac Jones just like yeah, he's got the cockiness of my dad will sue you Which is not good cockiness Brian Thomas is also really really good yeah he was there force-feeding him and it was but yeah I don't know I something about it Matt Jones he just he just cuz most backup QBs to our like backup QBs they like he's still got that I'm a starter yeah energy like yelling at people pointing at people. What are you doing, dude? Kind of a dirty player? Yeah Definitely. Yeah. Oh, it's good that you can see Took you a while, but you can finally say that it was just a competitor when he was on the Patriots. Yeah, ah
Starting point is 00:50:36 Memes would you like to talk about Bill Belichick trying to be the Jets head coach? Sure. Do you believe that report? I do believe it it but it was done by a Rossini yeah though we're seeing I'm marking down which one she's right about which one she's wrong got it so we talked about this earlier and I think she's what three for four two for three well what was the one that she was wrong about that you claim that they were benching Aaron Rodgers that there were discussions about pinching no no Rogers after the by they're going to bench him was the report. They will be benching Aaron Rogers. Yeah, so you I don't know I don't know you believe the Belichick one
Starting point is 00:51:12 Please forward that to our files. Yeah, you believe the Belichick. I believe the Belichick I actually I mean it would make sense why he all of a sudden decided to go to UNC like If he tried to go to the Jets and Jets were like no That's the one franchise to say yet should say yes, so one franchise. He shouldn't want to go to UNC like if he tried to go to the Jets and Jets were like no that's the one franchise that say yes should say yes. So one franchise he shouldn't want to go to. So it's almost like him bending over backwards to be like give me a job please. Yeah he seemed desperate. Right. Yeah. Which is why I think the report was put out there by the Jets. Yeah. I saw their one opportunity to get a clean shot in at Bill and be like hey he's down so bad
Starting point is 00:51:43 that he even wanted to work for us. Yeah, which is maybe not the same own that they think that it is Hank. Do you believe it? No, I mean he took shots at the ownership on the manning cast I could definitely seeing it being a petty like I could see him Floating it out there, but I don't think it was too serious by Belichick He also did you guys see his his contract like details with the buyout? Oh, yeah It's like yeah million dollars He basically has it set up where he could potentially like take an NFL job this this offseason Well, yeah, like some team needed to coach in June
Starting point is 00:52:15 He would just do it. Yeah So he might never coach a UNC. So he's very fun So like if an NFL coach gets fired during the offseason Then Bill could take their spot. Yeah, I guess that's true with like Black Monday or whatever. Like they usually get settled by June, but yeah, the way they structure the contract to be specifically like, you know, after June 1st, then the buyouts a lot less makes it seem like he is still, you know, telling UNC like I kind of want to coach the NFL. Yeah, right found here memes
Starting point is 00:52:49 Aaron Rodgers disputed Diana Racini's report. He doesn't want to play for the Jets and 20 that doesn't say anything about benching That's for next year. Mm-hmm, but he does say I don't talk to that person. Yeah, okay. Well, we didn't think he did She can have fun sources that aren't. Yeah. Roger. But also it feels weird that you're talking to yourself. You're picking. I'm telling Max Max is in charge of looking stuff up. You're telling me to find some of the dozen. He's a mad at you. You haven't found my new imaginary story.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Right. You write it. He's got one foot to if Max can't find Luigi being Greek, he's not going to find this. We get we're going to have to talk about your foot. The OK. So back it on Rogers being the quarterback next year with Devante Adams. I think so, because this game told you a lot. Did it. The defense led up so many points against a Mac Jones led team. But he's cocky.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Couldn't score a touchdown until the fourth quarter against the Titans last week. Right. So I think you just, because if you draft a quarterback top ten, you're still neglecting so many parts of the team that you have so many holes. Yeah, but the thing is about DNFL, if you have a very good quarterback then everything else kind of changes Mm-hmm, but you are are gonna have the eighth pick so you probably don't want to take a quarterback there Yeah, and all the quarterbacks are going back to their team in college. Yeah true It's like day by day. Somebody just keeps going back. Yeah, all right, so you want to fix the defense first
Starting point is 00:54:19 I think fix defense Hire coach hire coach hire coach. Hire coach. Well no, hire coach first. Wait, hire GM first or coach? Hire GM. GM first. Coach. Coach.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Promote son. Promote son. Who? What? The owner's son. Yeah, promote your son. Oh yeah, yeah, there was a rumor he was making a lot of the decisions. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah. Promote your son. Just make your son the GM. Right. Yeah, yeah was a rumor he was making a lot of the decisions. Okay. Yeah. Promote your son. Just make your son the GM. Right. Yeah, yeah. And coach. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers, bridge.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Bridge. Okay. To Jameis. Jameis could be on the team too. Okay. Co-bridges. Co-bridges. If you have two bridges, you don't have one.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah. That would actually make it a lot stronger. Yeah. Just two bridges sitting, going right next to each other. Give it another go next year. Yep. Then quarterback the next year. Okay. Okay. All right. That's a good plan. So maybe maybe compete for the division next year with the bridge.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Oh, yeah, we're definitely competing next year. Okay, yeah. In your mind, what is a bridge quarterback mean? In your mind, what is a bridge quarterback mean? Someone to help you compete. Mm-hmm and win the Super Bowl. Okay, got it Bridge got it realistic. Got it. Okay next game Texans 20 Dolphins 12 To a That was bad. The Dolphins might me out as much, if not more than any other team. There we talk about on Friday though.
Starting point is 00:55:51 We forgot about it. We, I was trying to remind everyone the dolphins playing good teams will always suck. And that's what happened. The Texans are over 500. The dolphins suck against them. But yeah, they were now obviously Jalen wattle getting hurt and Du Bois getting hurt, which was very, very scary and hope he's okay, uh, limited their offense. But watching that game and watching the dolphins just run basically
Starting point is 00:56:18 the same like little dump off screen over and over and over again. And then it was just dump off, dump off to an interception was so maddening and so frustrating to watch. And the Dolphins defense actually played pretty well, but get this team out of here. I thought that, I mean, too, it was dumping off a little bit early in the game. And then after the injury to his receiver to Bose, he felt it to me, it felt like he didn't want to throw
Starting point is 00:56:44 anything across the middle, which on a human level, I kind of get it. Yeah. He felt it to me, it felt like he didn't want to throw anything across the middle, which on a human level, like I kind of get it. Yeah, I understand it. That was like a really scary moment for, for everyone. But yeah, the offense didn't look like it looked like the Steelers offense. Yeah. Like the last two seasons. Yeah. It was, uh, it was not fun. No, it was not. It was a bummer to watch. And when you see Mike McDaniel on the sideline, when he's, when he's bummed out, that bums me out too. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And it was just like some coaches have the capacity when their team is playing bad to at least get super pissed off. And then that, that makes me entertained. Right. When I get to see them like grabbing people and spitting and shit. Mike McDaniel just, he, he just gets sad on the sideline. It was, it was a tough, tough watch and T and to just it was bad. So kept on throwing picks Derek Stingley. So you remember that dolphins Broncos game? Remember
Starting point is 00:57:31 that one where the dolphins scored 70 points? Yes. And blew out the Broncos? Yes. So since that game, the dolphins are 14 and 15. And the Broncos are 17 and 11. Yikes. Yikes. It flipped. They flipped. Yeah, they're a bummer to watch. I don't I don't want to watch the Dolphins anymore. No. And they're I mean, that was their season because I think if they have won this game, they would have 31% chance. And now they have a 4% chance of making the playoffs and the Texans. I believe they clinched the AFC South. Yes, they did. Because they won and the Colts lost. Yes. Yes, they did.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Um, the credit to the Texans, like I still don't know what to make of the Texans, especially offensively. Uh, they had 181 total yards, which is kind of crazy. They did not, they couldn't run the ball at all. It felt like their offense was, uh, two or throwing a pick. And then CJ shroud doing something awesome to Nico Collins. And, uh, I mean the game flipped on the incredible fake punt, which was an awesome call, awesome play call, awesome design. But yeah, I don't know what to make of it. Like the Texans don't give me any confidence when I'm watching them offensively. It doesn't feel like they have any rhythm.
Starting point is 00:58:41 So the Texans, they could, they could win two out of their next three because they got the Chiefs next week right? Yeah. And maybe no home maybe no my homes. Then they host the Ravens probably loss. But that's Christmas right? Yeah. That is that's the Beyonce game and then last week at the Titans. So they'll probably end up with 11 wins. I don't know if they're going to win two out of the last three you don't think so I don't think even without my homes I don't I don't know if I trust is that at Kansas City that is at Kansas City at Carson was gonna win that game you think so yeah Carson wants when I think I think the Texans end up with 11 wins and they become the most
Starting point is 00:59:20 disrespected 11 win team of all time. But rightfully so. But maybe rightfully so. Maybe rightfully so. And then you've got, they could then play against the, uh, the Ravens. Uh, in the, yeah, be the ravers or the Steelers, depending on who wins the, uh, AFC North. Yeah. I don't, I don't know if the Texans are going to win. I, I, I still, even with Carson Wentz, I just don't trust their defense. I mean, their offense at all. Yeah, I like their offense doesn't. It hasn't looked. It's boom or bust. If Joe Mixon is going crazy, like it feels like every, every game it's either you'll know right away, like Joe Mixon is going to go for 150 or he's going to go for 20. So if you're, if you're Texans fan, you're probably not
Starting point is 01:00:00 happy with how your offense looked this year compared to last season, right? So Bobby Sloak was named, that was thrown out a lot last season as being like the next up and coming coordinator that's going to be a head coach somewhere. He's probably not going to get that buzz this off season. In fact- Well, the Bears will probably find a way to fire him. Texans fans, I think a lot of Texans fans want to fire him, want to move on. This might be the best thing though. You might get three seasons of CJ three seasons of CJ Stroud with Bobby sloak Because he didn't have a great second year. Yeah, sophomore slump. Yeah. So yeah you I Think the bears are somehow you think so? Yeah somehow. I mean CJ look good last year. He did
Starting point is 01:00:38 He looks really good last year and he hasn't it's not all on CJ Stroud I mean their offensive line has has struggled and I just don't I don't have any confidence It's weird because you like what you said say they get to 11 wins Like when I look at the AFC, I don't know if you feel the same way But I think of the Chiefs the Bills and the Ravens and maybe the Steelers. We'll see I Haven't even thought about the Texans. as being a threat to any of those teams. No. In any type of capacity. I mean, the Broncos are kind of there, too.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Yeah, the Broncos are there. I don't know if the Broncos can win, you know, multiple playoff games. But right now, if the Broncos went to Houston, oh, try the playoffs. Yeah. Are you taking the Broncos? I would take the Broncos. I think I'm not putting the Broncos in the Chiefs Pills Ravens right a gory that that seems a little too far Wouldn't you agree? Yeah, I would yeah Okay, yeah bummer of a game bummer of a game. Okay, next up. We're finally in the afternoon
Starting point is 01:01:38 We'll finally get to get get to some good games But we got one more game that didn't really matter Cardinals 30 Patriots 17 Hank Drake made 10 for 10 in the first half he's played well he's enjoyable to watch interceptions not his fault hits guys in the hands they just hand it to the other team yeah there was that one that was so like who is that booty booty yeah how many times has booty done that this year a Lot and a lot of drops. I think probably like three or four times He's just played volleyball to a defensive player, but it's it's the the the path is clear Stay keep losing Travis Hunter. Okay. Oh
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah, yeah, like Drake made Travis Hunter gets gets the juices. So Travis playing wide receiver. I mean Travis Hunter and Christian Gonzalez. And then Travis Hunter, Christian Gonzalez. Yeah. Yeah. That's elite. Why not do it both in the pros? Be the first to do that. Wow. Okay. What about, what about Mayo? You still a Mayo boy? No, and even better. So then today, no, I've never really been a Mayo boy. You still a mayo boy? No and even better so then today, no I've never really been a mayo boy I Think the whole everything I've ever said on this program has not been like a big bought-in on Mayo
Starting point is 01:02:52 I've always kind of said he feels like a puppet for Kraft But today they were cutting to the booth and the lip readers they had Jonathan Kraft taking notes And you could clearly read his lips being like the play calling is terrible. Oh That's not mayo is it It's the head coach. I mean that if you're taking notes and you're the you know, the owner owner's son like That's not a good sign no, it's not it's what it is a sign if you want a new head coach Yeah, so I think I think it was a win Today was a great day wins all around if you were to find out that may it was coming back next season You would be bumped out. Yeah, I would be I wouldn't understand it. I would be like let's let's it I would say
Starting point is 01:03:36 Exactly what I said about Mattie reflux and I would but I would I was joking being like there has to be a reason to Bring it back knowing that there isn't and he's a bad coach. All right I think they will bring it back and The reason why is because of Robert Kraft because Robert Kraft doesn't want to seem like he's a guy that's short-tempered He doesn't want to admit that he made a bad decision He wants a guy that he will allow to grow into the role of a head coach. I Don't think so. I don't he actually on the hot seat like this. I think he is I mean you tell me why would your why would if you're the owner and your son sit next to you taking notes
Starting point is 01:04:08 Probably cuz Alex van Pelt is on the hot seat. I I mean I didn't realize he was maybe on the hot seat But it would make sense. He hasn't been it hasn't exactly been an inspiring and I don't think craft I mean, I think there's something to be said about like the you know He clearly cares about the PR and the perception and stuff. The fans are not necessarily on his side. I don't think they like Mayo. So this might be like a way for him to kind of get back, you know, and the good graces of the fans. Right. I just think that Robert Kraft, he wants to be, uh, he, he visions himself like, uh, the Steelers organization where it's like a stable franchise. So I don't think he would want to fire a coach after one year. What is this Jared Mayo giving his postgame press
Starting point is 01:04:48 conference after the game? It's just a video of Osama bin Laden. Yeah, that's not that's not so maybe he is on the hot seat. Community notes. Yeah, that does seem like all right. This guy said the Kraft family would bring back your Gerard Mayo and his staff because they do not want to admit a mistake. Yeah, there you go. Yeah Yeah, but yeah, this it seems like a bad situation Hank because you don't want to Why would you bring him back just so you don't want to make us like you're just making a mistake your delay? I'm gonna say you're delaying the inevitable if you think he's not the guy Belichick would get rid of him one year too early Patriots when he was playing, Patriots head coach
Starting point is 01:05:27 Gerard Mayo was asked if there was a consideration to running Drake man third and one and fourth and one in the red zone because of his rushing ability. Mayo responded, you said it. I didn't. What was that? So that seems like it's a shot at Alex Van Pelt. Oh, on a fall. He said it's always my decision.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I would say the quarterback obviously has, you know, a good pair of legs. Huh? Huh? Yeah. So he's blaming his coordinator. Yeah. That's, that's not that does seem Matt Eberfluss esque. Yeah, you're dealing with a similar situation. Cardinals. The I mean, I expected them to play well today and they did. James Connor had a big day. They still are alive, especially because we're watching Sunday football right now and Gino might be, he might be out for the year. So that kind of opens some things up. Yeah, there was one. Although the Cardinals already have played the Seahawks twice and they lost both times. Kyler did have that one, that one interception. It was a bad interception too. They got called back from roughing the past. Yeah, which was a bulls. I feel so bad
Starting point is 01:06:28 I feel so bad for defensive players, especially when you're trying to hit Kyler Murray Who's his strike zone the head is already pretty low for him, and then he ducked into it Yes, he was going to the ground that was purely a Interception that we're sorry a rough in the past. It was like he's too small. We have to protect He's just a little he's just a little guy. Yeah. But his head are at the defender's arms. Yeah. And he ducked too. This is why the NFL needs the super challenge. We've seen it a bunch this year. The super challenge should be a thing. Challenge anything. Challenge once again, once again, if you can see that the call is wrong on the replay,
Starting point is 01:07:01 the super challenge turns it over immediately. I I like that doesn't matter if it's orange flag yeah orange you like that oh the orange what if you have to light it on fire that would be cool to actually can't use it after like a magician yeah you you light it on fire and but then it's kind of like maybe it explodes yeah on the field like a grenade yeah a grenade yeah a grenade the challenge grenade if you hit a if you hit a ref that's fair play dude the challenge grenade you tell me that that wouldn't drive ratings up It would stop the game the NBA fucked up their whole challenge system now Nobody watches yeah if Steve Kerr had a grenade that he would throw onto the court damn right people would tune in yeah
Starting point is 01:07:35 I'm in challenge grenade. Yeah, do it All right, Hank Anything else no good loss good loss. Yeah, your take-it-on, your third pick overall. Yeah. So it could be Travis Hunter. Although the Jags, oh no, sorry. No, they got two QB teams. It's a giant team Raiders.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Two QB teams. Yeah, two QB teams. Would you want him primarily as a receiver or primarily as a corner? Primarily, I think he's better as a corner. I don't know. He's better as a corner. He's better as a corner.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah. Him and Christian Gonzalez. But he's really good as a receiver. But it's also like he'd be fun because they would mix it up and probably do returns. He could probably. Yeah, be electric. Every time they put him on the field, like they could throw him in the field for, you know, formations and stuff and just get the people going.
Starting point is 01:08:20 If you had him and Christian Gonzalez, that would be such an awesome pair of corners. That'd be the Patriot missile, no fly zone. Very hard to stop. Yeah. Yeah Okay, let's get to some good games before we do that PFT. You got a couple ads Yeah before we get to the rest of the games They're brought to you by our good friends over it shake shack. We got shake shack right here Out on the table. Look at that. They are bringing the Blitz this holiday season. Their holiday burger Blitz is starting today, December 16th. It's running through December 24th.
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Starting point is 01:11:22 bucks 40 Chargers 17, I'd like to speak to Max and Max only. Max, I think that the Chargers are probably dead. I think I agree. Yeah. J.K. Dobbin's getting hurt against the Ravens really. They can't run the ball anymore. And that wasn't the difference in this game because the Bucks are actually really good and Baker was incredible. But it I don't I think the Chargers could still make the playoffs. I do not think they can win a playoff game. Socks lads back though. Lad is back. Had a couple of drops a few drops. He was I mean this little lad shape. It was a close game and then it was just the Bucks dominating the second half. Mike Evans who we are a big Mike Evans podcast respect Mike Evans is one of the greatest receivers of all
Starting point is 01:12:06 Time he had a hundred fifty nine yards two touchdowns. He is now 749 yards so he's got an average Eighty three point seven yards in his final three games to reach a thousand yards for the eleventh straight season Mm-hmm, and that's all 11 years of his career. Yep. Mike Evans is incredible. Yeah, he's legit. But yeah, Baker was on fire today. Baker was 22 for 27, 288 in four touchdowns and the Chargers just like, they got gashed. And he also ran with the ball pretty well. Yeah. They gave up 505 yards to the Bucs. Yeah. The defense, the, the once vaunted Chargers defense has not looked good when they have to play against good quarterback
Starting point is 01:12:45 They just look like they've run out of gas and and I don't I don't know what I mean the Bucks It's more the Bucks are playing great football right now and the Bucks that was a huge win for the Bucks because that was their last game against a team over 500 so You know they're up in the NFC South right now And they control their own destiny and they have the Cowboys Panthers and Saints to finish the season Last two games at home. The Bucks are a dangerous team. Yeah, very bucks are a dangerous team I think they're a very good team. Yeah, they're playing they played well all season and when they had their best players out They still played well just with worse players
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah, so they're they've been kind of like, even though at times they weren't very good, if that makes sense at all. Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense. So now that they've got some of their better players back, yeah, they're a legitimate threat, I think, in the playoffs. This game got off to a great start, because our good friend Coach Harbaugh had Judge Judy serve
Starting point is 01:13:39 as one of the captains for the Chargers before the game. He's been a huge fan of Judge Judy. I always laugh when I see those pictures of hardball and his dad sitting at a live taping Yeah of Judge Judy the best. So he's pulling out all the stops. What else can you do if you're hardball? I know if you brought on you can't lose the Judge Judy game. You can't lose the Judge Judy game. That's brutal Yeah, it's bad. Like what do you do next? Well to be fair also Herbert he got hurt in the first half Yeah, he got rolled up on it fucked his ankle up He's had just a rotating series of I feel like he goes back and forth between both of his ankles Yeah, just keep getting fucked up. I mean, I'm not gonna make excuses
Starting point is 01:14:15 I think the Chargers are just playing bad football right now like they even that game against the Falcons They they kind of got dominated and we're lucky to win it So, you know, they've been playing good teams the the Chiefs and the Bucks and the Ravens. So you can say like, hey, they've had a tough schedule, but still you would have liked them to be a little bit more competitive against the Bucks in the second half. And they just got absolutely worked, worked. And it feels like it's just two teams going in two different directions when you're talking about the Bucs the Chargers This is a big game for the Bucs too. So now what are they at 87% to make the playoffs? Yeah
Starting point is 01:14:51 And they and and I wouldn't be I don't think the Falcons are gonna lose to the Vita to the Raiders on Monday night football But I wouldn't be shocked it could happen because that's just something the Falcons would do. Yep They would do do something stupid like that and have Desmond Ritter Revenge game and yeah, I the Bucks are a team I want to see in the playoffs because they will and that will be a very very interesting first round matchup because they'll play One of the NFC North teams and it will be like I have beaten the Lions. They've beaten the Lions They've beaten the Eagles, but they're not gonna play the Lions in the first round Yeah, well, no, they absolutely could play the Lions the first round
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah the Vikings could get the one-seat Yeah, or the Vikings get the two-seat Vikings are very much alive to be and they play they play the Lions I think week 18. So the Vikings are not Vikings are there. They're there. We kind of forgot about the Vikings. But with the Lions lost today, the Vikings are there. I've mentally had the Vikings just locked into that fifth. No, they are. They are very much sitting there being like we this this this one seed could be ours if they keep winning because I think the one seed comes down to conference record So I guess they would be tied with the Eagles
Starting point is 01:16:11 I don't know how they'd figure that one out But the Vikings if they went out there there they would if they went out they win the north That's for a fact so they control their own destiny in that respect all right But yeah the Bucks I I'm excited to see the Bucks in the playoffs. I like Baker He's been awesome Todd Bulls still can't figure out when to go for two. He has no idea No, I no idea went to punt no idea when to call a timeout no idea when to go for two none, but it didn't matter today didn't matter today because they kicked the shit out of the Kick the shit out of the Chargers and the Chargers. It's sad. I'm sad. I'm sad about the chargers. I do.
Starting point is 01:16:47 They're going to still make the playoffs. The problem is the entire idea of them making the playoffs was that they wouldn't have the seven seed. They'd have the six seed and they wouldn't have to play the bills. Now they're in the seven seed and they would have to play the bills. If the playoffs started today. I think the Eagles have the tiebreaker over the Vikings, by the way. Oh, they do.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Because they lost to the Rams and we beat the Rams. Oh, there you go. Okay. But the Vikings, if they won out, would at bare minimum have the two seed. Yeah, they would win that division. Yeah. Okay. Next up. Oh, wait. No, yeah. Memes makes a good point. They beat the Falcons. Uh-oh. So beat the Falcons. Oh
Starting point is 01:17:27 Crunch the numbers crunch the numbers Well, you guys beat the Falcons too, right? Oh shit PFT I don't know if you saw this but Saquon we beat the commanders. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, so you guys have the tiebreaker overs I don't know the numbers. I don't know the numbers. Find it. You need to know the numbers. These are the most important. You've been begging for the Lions to lose another game for the last month and they finally did. And you don't have the numbers. You got to fucking, you got to know the numbers. This is inexcusable. There it is. If Philly and Vikings went out, there it is. Tiebreaker for the num- click that. Click the... Max. Your foot's broken, not your brain, right?
Starting point is 01:18:10 Okay, scroll down. Scroll down! See, it's a reddit link. It literally says it right there. Strength of victory would be the tiebreaker. What does strength of victory mean? I don't know. I like that though.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Like the best teams that you've beaten? Uh, yeah. Or how bad you've beaten them. I think it's how bad you've beaten them. Minnesota has a higher strength of victory. It sounds like a shitty video game, doesn't it? Yeah. Oh, it's, oh, it's the, oh, it's, uh, it's the teams you play like the win loss record for the teams you play. Okay. So that will probably hurt the Eagles because they're going to win. What was the win and loss record for the teams you beat? Yeah, yeah, teams you beat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, strength and victory. So that would hurt the Eagles because they don't, I think they still have to play the Cowboys. And have you played
Starting point is 01:18:58 the Giants twice? No, we haven't played the Giants and the Cowboys. So that's bad. What if bad for your strength of victories. Bad. Hmm. That's bad for you. If you lose to the commanders this week, then that victory over the commanders from Thursday night looks a lot better. Strength of victory. Yeah. Then if you have a third loss then you're in trouble. Yeah. No. Okay. We're gonna win. Uh, all right. Broncos 31 Colts 13. This game was crazy because the Colts were in full control. And then Jonathan Taylor dropped the ball,
Starting point is 01:19:29 going into the end zone to go up 20 to 7. And all hell broke loose. And the Broncos ended up kicking the shit out of the Colts in the fourth quarter. Yeah, I mean, we could sit here and say how stupid it is to drop the ball on the one yard line. I'd never do it. I have never dropped the ball on the one yard line. I'd never do it. I have never dropped the ball on the one yard line.
Starting point is 01:19:45 If my body was teleported into Jonathan Taylor's body at the one yard line, you bet your ass we score that touchdown. Yep. I could have scored that touchdown. Every time. It's mass hysteria at this point. It's crazy. Because it's made no sense since day one when it first started to Shawn Jackson. Yep. And the fact that people keep doing it for absolutely no reason at all. There's no other explanation They think it's a mass school. I think I think it's they think it looks cool. I think they just they give up on it That's it. You know what we can make this about society. Yeah, that's that you know what big cat That's the problem with zoomers. Yep, is that they don't they never finish anything. Yeah, they don't finish what they started No, go score a touchdown like us. I only finish I would always finish
Starting point is 01:20:26 That's the only thing I'm good at is finishing. Yeah, I barely start. Yeah, I finished so fast. You didn't even know I started That it's crazy and I look the Colts I've talked a lot about Anthony Richardson. I'm not a big fan He he has guys drop the ball a lot But he also misses a lot of throws and he throws bad interceptions but Jonathan Taylor like you get that ball in the end zone and the pressure is on the Broncos who Bo Nicks was not playing well time and Like everything fell apart from there. It was the punt return that was put him into Like great field position. It was this this stupid gimmick play that the Broncos
Starting point is 01:21:07 picked off. Nick Benetti picked off and took to the house. So was that a pick six? Was that technically an interception? It might have been a fumble. Like a backwards pass or backwards fumble that went 30 yards in the air? I don't know. So what would the score of that game been if Jonathan Taylor- 20 to 7. It would have been 20 to 7 at 20 to 7 way to 7 in the third in the start of the third quarter and They were still leading in the start of the fourth quarter. But yeah, that was their season too. That was the cold season
Starting point is 01:21:37 It's all over now. They're they're they're pretty much on the outside looking in I think six percent to get in yeah, and you just don't have any excuse for that because it was just I don't know how you do that It was so so monumentally stupid in that moment to drop the ball Mm-hmm, and by the way the Broncos Broncos are one of the best stories the NFL right now So this is from Zack by The Broncos came in the season with a win total set at five and a half, a roster rank dead last by PFF, absorbing the largest dead cap in NFL history and the least thought of rookie quarterback.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And they just secured their first winning season since 2016 and have a playoff probability north of 90%. They're the best story right now in the NFL and the fact that no one expected the Broncos. $90 million in dead cat. And Sean Payton was, I think we all thought he might've lost the touch last year with how that season went. And he's still a really, really good coach. And Bo Nix is, even though he didn't play great today, is a baller.
Starting point is 01:22:41 And yeah, the Broncos, 2016, that was the last time they had a winning season I would say that I would say probably the Broncos as a franchise that wakes up today at the fan base and Just looks at the playoffs standings and they deserve it. They're like look at that. They never were the sixth seed right now, baby This was going to be going into this year a true Rebuilding see what you got in your rookie quarterback type of year. And now they're sitting here with nine wins after week 15 in the sixth seed. And they're, I mean, their defense is good. When Bo Nix is playing well, like he again, he had three picks today. It was windy. We'll say that it was windy. But yeah, I just can't get over how bad the Colts
Starting point is 01:23:23 blew this game. Yes, bad. It was very bad. Benito was that second pick six of the year? Yeah. He does the hold my dick jumping in the end zone. Yeah. You got a flag. The ref had the flag out of his pocket while the hand was still on the dick. Yeah. Jumping into the end zone. But yeah, if you're a Broncos fan, just spend all day, Monday looking at the standings. Looking at the playoff. And I'm happy the Broncos are like back in the playoffs and back to winning football
Starting point is 01:23:46 They're they're fun franchise. They're like I Don't know they had the longest time where they were just consistently there and then they've obviously had a really bad nine years But now they're back and the future is bright. It feels good to be a Broncos fan It does feel you look back at that that lost against the Dolphins. That was the bottom. That was the turn. That was it. Yeah, that was literally that bad. Yeah, yeah. $90 million in dead cat. That's crazy. And it's just a bunch of young dudes and Sean Payton showing everyone that he can still coach his balls off Fuck Jonathan Taylor. Badger. That was tough. What do we do with Anthony Richardson?
Starting point is 01:24:30 I feel like Colts fans are starting to be a little more aware. And again, I've liked a couple of things he's done. Game winning drive against the Patriots, game winning drive against the Jets. He just can't consistently be accurate. I mean, the Colts have a very rich recent history of hiring like the least mobile old ass quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, so Flacco, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers. The judge on who can fill that void Rogers as a bridge.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Jamus Jamus. He's not he's not he's mobile. Yeah. Who can fill that void as a bridge? James. James. He's not, he's not, he's mobile. Yeah. No, I'm saying, but like, James would actually be a good fit. I have a question for Colts fans. Chris Ballard, I don't know the in, you know, in and outs of the Colts franchise. That guy feels like he's had a job for way too long.
Starting point is 01:25:22 All I know about Chris Ballard is that he is maybe the leading recipient of the Dan Dacich, my ass tweets. Yeah, but he doesn't feel, he's been the GM for what feels like a very long time, and it just doesn't feel like the Colts are ever going, they're never, they're always like right around that middle ground, but they're never going forward. Yeah, I get a feeling like, like, Ersei of, uh, of cycling through his right hand men. Yeah, but it might be time those guys around. It might be time. And I don't know what to do with
Starting point is 01:25:52 Anthony Rich and I mean, I, I just don't know what to do. You just can't like, again, there was a lot of guys that he does. It feels like his receivers let him down a lot, but he also will have multiple times a game where it's like, oh, here's a 10, but he also will have multiple times a game where it's like, oh, here's a 10 yard out and I'm going to throw it 15 yards over the guy's head. Yeah. I do like the idea of Jamis. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:12 The game's on at noon on Saturday? Yeah, there's a game on at noon. That's weird. Why? Saturday at noon is like, I'm not a holiday. It's just bizarre. Saturday night. You don't watch college football.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Yeah, there's a new- Well, no, college football, yeah, but- You don't watch college football. Yeah, there's a new no college football. Yeah, but you don't watch. Well, yeah, there's always games on it. No, no, no. They're doing big noon kickoff on Saturday. Penn State's playing at the same time. That makes sense. It's called football. Which NFL game too? They had to do it. She's Texans. They had to do it because theys, Texans, they had to do it because they're making them play four days later on Wednesday. Got it. So the four teams that are playing on Saturday
Starting point is 01:26:51 play again on Wednesday. Got it. Yeah. And I don't think they wanted to make either of those teams play late on Saturday night. It's pretty crazy that they're having to turn around and play that. that like the three games in ten days.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Yeah. All because we need football on Thanksgiving. Well, because we needed to take over the NBA on Christmas. Why are we taking over the NBA? That's been done. We could just play replays on Christmas and probably still win that. That's a good idea yeah okay Eagles 27 Steelers 13 I want to start with the row back question rhoback.com promo code
Starting point is 01:27:34 take 20% off your first purchase Q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts or row back.com promo code take go right now row back.com promo code take. My first question on Eagles 27, Steelers 13 is, Max, how was your weekend? Broke my foot. What? Broke my foot. What do you mean? Listen, sometimes you get out of a car
Starting point is 01:27:58 and you break your foot. Mm-hmm. That's facts. Wait, so you broke it getting out of the car So relatable getting out of the car I slipped it was rainy it was rainy night were you drunk Very much so yes, which is a problem wine drunk wine drunk. Oh no. Yeah You were over served. What time was this?
Starting point is 01:28:27 Like 11. Ugh. It's pretty early to be wine drunk. I know. We had a birthday party during the day. Shout out Quigs. So then we went from that into a dinner where Jack McCarthy and I just had too much red wine.
Starting point is 01:28:44 So. So it's Jack McCarthy's fault. It's Jack McCarthy's fault. had too much red wine. Mm-hmm. So... So it's Jack McCarthy's fault. It's Jack McCarthy's fault. Yeah. Yeah. So... Aqueous. What's the exact prognosis, diagnosis? I have a Jones fracture in my left foot. Did any famous Philadelphians have that same?
Starting point is 01:28:59 Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons. But he's okay. Yeah. No. He turned out fine. So are you gonna have surgery? Excuse me The doctor today said that I probably will not need surgery So my friend dr. Dan did tell me that they'll tell anyone who's they don't deem an athlete
Starting point is 01:29:22 That they don't need surgery, correct. So you're good. Yeah, you're an athlete Yeah, and actually I do not want to get this. I mean, how are you gonna pitch? Yeah, that's it. That's that's that's a problem That's a problem. They're gonna have to have you out there like in a wheelchair That's a problem like George HW Bush at the Astros game. That's a problem. It's a problem. Yeah, what uh Walk me through waking up this morning because I still don't we spent all day together I still don't think you fully have it's registered in your head How awful this is no yeah, this is terrible This is so so so so so so bad
Starting point is 01:29:58 I woke up this morning Honestly kind of forgot about it got out of bed to to take a piss and the battle to get to the bathroom was one of the most difficult things I've ever done. I ended up sitting on the, I ended up sitting and peeing and then I just sat there for an extra like 10 minutes because I was like I can't, I like I'm dreading getting up and getting back to this getting back to this bed Yeah, like you couldn't even put any pressure on you were zero zero weight zero Oh, Joe's is it like is it black and blue?
Starting point is 01:30:36 As you would have thought or as I would have thought it'll probably be worse tomorrow But I can't even look at it. Yeah, so like I have to to go to I have to go to a foot doctor at some point this week Like a specialist to look at it. How many foot doctors have you seen the last eight months? This will be a frequent flyer This will be my third. So you're gonna be what Super Bowl I Don't know they I have the foot specialist. I think will give me more information. We need to get you in a boot Yes, yeah, once you're in a boot. You'll be fine. My toes are so cold Yeah, toes are cold. So the very first year part of my take that fall
Starting point is 01:31:18 I had the exact same thing happened where I was I was stepping off of a curb after it was my buddy Quigs's birthday party and basically Jack McCarthy forced me to drink wine and I fractured my foot, got the Jones fracture. You're going to go to a doctor, they're going to x-ray you, they're going to hopefully put you in a boot and then they're going to check you again in a couple weeks to see if it healed and if it doesn't, then you have to get the surgery and then at that point You're off it for like two months. Mm-hmm Did you get the surgery? No, I did have this I do not want the surgery. Yeah. Yeah one out there That was when we checked him out. Yeah. Yeah, just tell me I don't need to get the surgery. Okay, but um, I
Starting point is 01:31:59 Need you to be okay for Super Bowl No, I think I'm gonna be like Lieutenant Dan on bourbon. Yeah, yeah. Hank wants me, wants me scooting around bourbon. Yeah, I mean, Max, you in a wheelchair, if the Eagles are in the Super Bowl, going to the game in a wheelchair. Oh my God. It would be, and guess what?
Starting point is 01:32:16 We got you a wheelchair. Yeah. We got you a joystick wheelchair. I wanted to get you one with the straw. That's, I don't know, that's crazy. A motorized wheelchair. How sick is that going to be? That'll be cool.
Starting point is 01:32:27 That'll be cool. Max, last question. How worried am I about being fat? No, it's not what I was going to say. I was going to say, how fat are you going to get? So I need to just not eat. I'm just not going to eat food. Have you thought about the showering situation?
Starting point is 01:32:41 Because you're going to be taking some sponge bash, buddy. I think I'm gonna be taking real baths with my foot out of the... But how about how about the fat? I am So so so worried about that. How are you gonna get... I don't even want to think about that. It's all gross. If your foot is elevated and you're in the bath, how are you gonna get out? It's a great point Henry. Yeah, it's a great point. Here's what you're in the bath. How are you gonna get out? That's a great point, Henry. Yeah, it's a great point. Here's what you're gonna have to do, Max.
Starting point is 01:33:08 You're gonna be sitting on the edge of the tub with a garbage bag tied around one of your feet, and then you're just gonna take a washcloth and just wash yourself with a rag. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna get so fat. I'm just not gonna eat.
Starting point is 01:33:22 I don't know how that, how does that, you're gonna eat. I'm just not gonna eat. I don't know how that how does that you're gonna eat? I'm just not gonna eat At all yep, no eating salads Just salads. What have you lost weight? There's no way Callers in colors. Oh, what about you? You could you could I need to figure out how you could bench Yeah, no, I'm still gonna do some upper body, but that's not really like burning calories You know if you do it fast enough the problem with that max is you're gonna You know do like arms workouts and you're gonna get sweaty and then your foot's gonna say can you stop?
Starting point is 01:33:53 You guys just keep bringing up things that are gonna suck for me. It's reality. I'm worried about that plane I I have to I have to take you get You don't have to go to any weddings I got a wedding So I have to go to Philly you won't split your pants dancing I have to go to Philly take a train to New York take a train back to Philly Go to Hilton head and then come back to Chicago all within like the next three weeks. How good on Crocs Oh my god bad bad really really like shockingly bad. I almost slipped, like, walking here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:26 And that's bad, because every time you put pressure on that foot, you make that fracture worse. Also, the elevator to my parking garage is broken right now. Oh, no. I feel really bad for you. This is the worst, like, it's one of the worst times to do it. Like, right before the holidays, when you have to travel, and you're also going to have to travel and like You're also gonna have
Starting point is 01:34:46 Like time off and you're just you can't do anything Nothing Except eat. Nope not gonna eat Salads salads salads. You can drink you can drink a lot. Yeah, I got some shrimp cocktail today That was nice. You're not in danger of falling down so you can get as drunk as you want Can you get a DUI in a wheelchair? Yep, I got a salad I got a steak salad and shrimp cocktail man for lunch today All right the game
Starting point is 01:35:17 Eagles dominated the Steelers the Eagles are so good the Eagles dominated the Steelers. We had The Eagles are so good. The Eagles dominate the Steelers. We had one of, so the Eagles, I think13 with 10-40 left in the game and fourth and seven on the Philly 46. So plus territory and Mike Talman decided to punt and they never got the ball again. 10-40 and they never got the ball again. The Eagles went on a 21 play 88 yard drive. They never got the ball. ball again. The Eagles went on a 21 play, 88 yard drive. They never got the ball. Yeah, they started with 10 minutes 29 seconds left. And
Starting point is 01:36:11 they picked up 12 on third and 13. They converted a fourth and one they converted another third down 21 play 88 yards 10 minutes 29 second drive at the end. The decision to punt was just unreal in real time as you're watching. Like what the fuck are you down? You're down by two scores. Why are you kicking the ball where you're down 14 points? You're in plus territory. Mike Tomlin, why is this even a thought that you would consider? It was something that we were saying, this is so stupid while it was happening. Little do we know that they would never get the ball back. Like we thought it was stupid because they were going to punt and maybe
Starting point is 01:36:47 get the ball back one more time. They punted and they never got the ball back. And the Eagles, the Steelers had two possessions in the second half, two, two possessions in the second half. And the Eagles defense is awesome. And Jalen hurts. He answered all the critics. He threw the ball well today. He had a J eight eight. AJ had eight catches, 110 yards in a touchdown. Devante had 11 catches, 109 yards in a touchdown. We also had the anecdote from Jay Glazer, which made me laugh that in a team meeting earlier this week, uh. Brandon Graham apologized for his radio comments and then Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown dapped each other up in front of the team to show that everything is good. That's good. That's great. They literally got in front of the team and
Starting point is 01:37:36 they're like, watch this. So they're friends. They're friends. Did you see their touchdown dance? Was it cool? Are they best friends? They might be back to best friends. They dapped each other up in front of the entire team What a good moment that must have been. Yeah. No. Yes. He looked look at this touchdown dance. So fun They don't look like they're in sync That didn't that is not they didn't practice that That was like we got to do a touchdown dance to make everyone think that we did a touchdown dance together, but it's not Now here's what happened. Here's what that happened with that. Jalen, he
Starting point is 01:38:05 texted AJ a YouTube link to, hey, this is the dance that we're going to do together. And then they both learned it at their own houses. Yeah. And then they did together for the first time right there. Yeah. But the Eagles are back. 10 in a row statement win against a very good defense. And now the one seed is right there, Max. And it is pretty crazy to think about like the difference in the Eagles welcoming a Minnesota Vikings or Detroit Lions or them having to go on the road. So is the Eagles might be just good
Starting point is 01:38:39 enough to beat all of them. I think the Eagles are very, very, very good right now. Yeah, I mean they're the most complete team in the NFC is Dickerson hurt I don't know if there's Yeah, you need him not hurt. I mean it does it does matter But today it did not matter because you were able to do that drive without one of your best players Also Kenny Kenny Gainwell, he was great today. He had one of the best games of his entire career today. Which was nice. I was happy for him. Yeah, no, it was a dominant effort by the Eagles and the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I don't know. This is why I've always been a little bit half in, half out. I know George Pickens is in there, but their offense, it doesn't feel explosive and it doesn't feel like it can get you out of a game like this. When Najee fumbled that pitch, it felt like the game was over. But even the way they, the only reason it was a close game was you had Cooper Dejean fumbling that punt and like other than that, the Steelers never sustained anything that felt like they were threatening.
Starting point is 01:39:44 And I just don't know, now TJ Watt might be hurt. So he left the game with an ankle injury. Steelers never sustained anything that felt like they were threatening. No. And I just don't know. Now TJ Watt might be hurt. So he left the game with an ankle injury. I think it's just a sprain, which is good. But I, I just walked away being like the Eagles. I'll say it. Eagles is the best team in the NFC.
Starting point is 01:39:57 After today they are with the injuries in Detroit. Yeah. Yeah, I think they are. Probably are. They are the best team in the NFC as of right now. I can change my opinion when the Vikings beat the Bears by a hundred? Are you worried about Jalen hurts broken ring finger? It says non throwing finger. Okay, so no problem any through today
Starting point is 01:40:15 Yeah, isn't that weird that he just needed to be called out to actually throw. Mm-hmm. Yeah, two ninety two touchdowns 125 quarterback rating it's great game Are you worried at all that? Nick sir, he's grown back his hair a little bit and they have not lost a game since he shaved his head using he needs To reshape is that only if you lose you keep it going. Okay going until you lose We talked about that then he shaves it and then you start winning again his beard looked horrendous today though Yeah, but nice. You're on he's been really good. Yeah every like Everyone has gave him a bunch of shit in the beginning of the year as they probably should have, but he's adjusted
Starting point is 01:40:50 and he's done a really good job with this team. And it wasn't even like a Saquon is the best player in the league game. So you still feels like the Eagles had something left in the tank. I just think their defense, I mean, they're the drafting all Georgia players starting to work wonders because like Nicoby Dean is awesome. And, and obviously your guys on the defensive line, Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter. I mean, Nolan Smith is really, really into his own. Yeah. So you, Max, you gotta be thinking soupy or bust. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Anything less than a soupy is a disappointment.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Winning a soupy or getting to a soupy? Winning a soupy a disappointment winning a soup you're getting to a soup Winning a soup gotta win a soup winning. You gotta win it Must win. I don't know why you guys wouldn't I mean you have everything it feels like you have everything Must win. How do you feel about kicker? Kicker had a better day today. He did he didn't have to kick anything over 50 for he made a 49er 49er didn't count. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's not 50 though. It's not 50. It's close 50s in his head. That's for sure Okay, anything else in this game? Yeah, I don't know the Steelers are if the Steelers can beat the Ravens then It doesn't feel like the Steelers might be
Starting point is 01:42:06 not fading but like they have they have to play the Ravens and they have to play the Chiefs. And if they lose those two games, they're going to now be a road playoff game to start. And it's, it definitely feels a little different. Pickens being out makes a big difference. Oh, for sure. Their offense just goes back to what it was before Russ. Yeah. When you don't have him in there, it just becomes a find a tight end, hopefully run the football, try to, and then maybe convert like a three yard out. Yeah. And with Pickens in there, they throw the ball downfield, they push it. Rusty does his moon balls without them in there. Again, back to being very boring to watch without Georgie. We'll see what happens with the Ravens game on Saturday. It's a massive, massive game. Ah, but the Steelers, they, they are built to beat the Ravens.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Yes. No, absolutely. If there's one team that can beat the Ravens, it's the Steelers. We know that for a fact. Yeah. Lamar struggles with the Steelers. Uh, it's just crazy how hard their schedule is down the stretch. Like the fact that they're going Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, and then a Bengals team that could be still alive. Yeah. Who knows? Uh, okay. Last game, best game bills, 48 lions, 42. This was a Josh Allen masterclass. He was on fire. I mean he, they every single time he touched the ball, it was basically a touchdown. He's a tough motherfucker too. He gets hit so hard. Yeah. Bounces right up from it. He is. Josh Allen is now the first player in NFL history to have 35 or more passing slash rushing touchdowns in four consecutive seasons. Pretty, pretty crazy. Yeah. It was
Starting point is 01:43:36 pretty crazy. It was an awesome game today. Not a lot of defense being played. Not a lot of lines. Got a couple more injuries on their defense. Yeah. Lee McNeil and Carlton Davis is bad. They can't really afford having couple more injuries on their defense. Yeah. Lee McNeil and Carlton Davis is bad. They can't really afford having any more injuries on their defense, but they got them. And then Dan Campbell, I don't know what he was doing with the, uh, the onside kick. Yeah. With what? 12 minutes left in the game. 10 minutes left, 10 minutes left in the game. That made no sense to me.
Starting point is 01:44:00 And they asked him about it afterwards. He's like, yeah, you know, kind of wish that I hadn't done that at the time. The recovery rates, what, like 7% for an onside kick. So I would understand it if you could still surprise onside kick. Yeah. Because the idea is our defense can't stop them at all. Yeah. Like the, the bills came into this game. They they were up 14, nothing in the blink of an eye and they were going right down the field doing whatever they wanted. If you could do a surprise onside kick, you're like, Hey, our defense can't get a stop. Let's try to catch them off guard. The fact you can't do a surprise onside kick anymore makes it really the dumbest thing
Starting point is 01:44:33 you could possibly do. It really made no sense. It was very, very stupid. Yeah. Matt Collins returned it to like the five yard line. Yeah. And then they tried to do an onside kick to get the ball back one last time at the end. And that was a way better onside kick.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Yeah. That one almost worked for him. Well, and the Lions pointed first, so I thought they had gotten it. Yeah, they did a great job of really good job of pointing first. If you point first, I'm just going to always assume that you got you recovered it. This was this was such a cool game, not only because there were so many points scored, but also everybody out there is in fantasy playoffs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:03 And having like all the stars get yards and get points all at the same time, that fourth quarter felt like it was gonna last forever. Yeah. When like every league was still like up in the air at that point. Yeah, I mean Jared threw five touchdowns and he spread it around to everyone.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Yeah. He was making sure everyone got a touch. But I just, I mean, I said it on Friday, I was like, I love this spot for the Bills. And I know, listen, the Lions are very injured. It sucks. I don't know what you want. Like I feel bad for Lions fans. It sucks. They have this, these many injuries. I think this is going to be a very, very big problem getting into the playoffs. Like when they're in there playing a game where their defense, I feel like their defense hasn't gotten a stop in forever at this point. And it's just, it's
Starting point is 01:45:45 a problem. They, they, no team has ever given up 45 points at home in the regular season and went on to win the soup bowl. Yeah. So losing two more cornerbacks, bad, bad spot and a Lee McNeil. Yeah, that's, that's, I mean, he's very, very important, but yeah. And listen, the bills have defensive injuries as well. Their defense has gotten gashed the last two games, but Josh Allen is playing at such an insane level that it hasn't mattered. It's like it mattered last week because they lost the Rams because this is like the best Josh Allen that we've ever seen. He's he just everything works and it's just every when he just gets he all he has to do is just hike the ball and it's
Starting point is 01:46:23 like either someone's gonna be open or's going to run around long enough that someone will be open or just run for a touchdown. And James cook looked good today. Yeah. I feel like they're getting James cook. They were saving them. Yeah. That's what, that was the theory. What, what do you have? You have, you have all the, I mean, the lions are just ravaged by injuries. It sucks. It sucks. This is how this is the shitty part of the NFL that you could have everything set up for a dream season and then you get the wrong guys injured and you're just stuck with like a defense that can't stop anything. So I don't know. I mean, if they can figure out a way to hold onto that one seed, that would be obviously massive because they would get the buy, but
Starting point is 01:47:01 also having to play these teams at home. But I don't know I don't know if they're gonna be able to I Don't know if they're be able went out I don't know if you thought that Dan Campbell was reckless with fourth downs earlier now that he's got all these injuries He might not punt for the rest of this might cut the punter for another defensive player. Yeah, sorry Jack Fox Thank you for your service. Yeah, but yeah, I was I mean the bills are I Don't get ahead myself, but I the bills are legit legit. And they're I mean, we'll see what happens in the playoffs because we know the bills history in the playoffs, but Josh is playing
Starting point is 01:47:34 out of his mind. I went into today thinking like Super Bowl preview in this game. Now I'm like, yeah, bills could definitely make Super Bowl lions. I'm not I'm not confident. It's just their defense is just it's so it sucks. It sucks a lot that their defense is this many injuries and it's fallen off this much. And their offense is still elite and still I mean, that that past Dan Skipper was sick and and Jerry was hitting.
Starting point is 01:47:58 I mean, Amonra scored what, like a 60 yarder? But yeah, sad, sad for the Lions that their defense guns. Listen, their schedule isn't, it's all going to come down to week 18 for them. Because they play the Bears next week, they're going to kill us by 100. And then the Niners who might who knows where the Niners are going to be at as a franchise at that point. And then week 18 against the Vikings could be for the one seed could be for the two seed could be for the one seed could be for the two seed could be for everything I
Starting point is 01:48:27 I feel bad now about the Lions feel very bad I've been super high on them all season even when they had a lot of injuries now. They've just got like their morgue. Yeah, it's tough Max you got you got your wish in the fact they took another loss Yeah, but still work to be done So work to be done. They do play all their games at home. Yeah, today at home. Today at home. They played at home. All right. Last game we were talking about Sunday night football at all. I think the big story is Gino Smith might be out for a while because he left the game with a knee injury. Packers looked awesome. Packers are
Starting point is 01:49:05 a problem. The NFC playoffs are loaded. Yeah, the Packers look really good. Really good. Yeah, the Seahawks, they didn't even look that good when Gino was in the game. No, they Gino was just like drifting back and sacked a lot. The offense looked disjointed. See, the defense did not look, they're like a very schizophrenic defense too. Yes. They can look very good. And I was, I bought into the death zone. Yeah. Death zone got me. And then Josh Jacobs showed up in the first drive and just ran it down their throat. I, let's do a quick, I mean, in the NFC, like six, five out of seven teams. Are you saying
Starting point is 01:49:44 that you can't win the Superbowl or get to the Super Bowl, PFT? I'm saying that I cannot win the Super Bowl this year. Get to the Super Bowl. Get to the Super Bowl. Can you get to the Super Bowl? Let's see. Can I answer that question after next weekend against the Eagles? Because right now the answer is no.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Okay. But I reserve the right to change that if we somehow beat the Eagles. But the Lions, the Eagles, the Bucs, the Rams, if we somehow beat the Eagles but the Lions the Eagles the Bucs the Rams Who are now at the four seed because of the Seahawks loss? I mean the Rams are a problem for me big time The problem with the playoffs is you don't get to beat any bad teams in the playoffs, right? So that's where I think we might run into a small issue a Tiny issue a tiny issue, but you play the Panthers in the playoffs would it would be awesome. That could all change. If we get to, if we beat the Eagles next week, if we
Starting point is 01:50:30 beat the, what are the, the Falcons are above 500, right? I gotta be nervous about the Rams. Are they one game below? Jesus Christ. What? Say it again. I think it's Eagles and then a step down and then a big cluster You think it's a big cluster after the Eagles? Yeah, because the Bucks the Rams the Lions or the Packers Yeah, no the Vikings and Packers are both very good. Yeah, but I think the Eagles are a slight step above Max Yeah, I might you I mean I I Might have to lose my pinky if the fucking Rams The Rams are scary
Starting point is 01:51:09 Prams are scary the Rams are scary We we smoked the Rams in LA. Okay, you're right. You did you smoked the Rams in LA that made me feel a lot more confident Yeah, my NFC power rankings are Eagles one Vikings to Packers three lions fourth bucks fifth I'm not gonna dump the the the Lions all the way the line just the line just beat the back Yeah, they beat him twice. Yeah, but now they're so banged up. They can't get a stop on defense Yeah, I'm still gonna I'm still gonna keep the Lions at second until
Starting point is 01:51:39 until the we play out the strength just because They deserve that and their offense is still elite Yeah, I'll also say that the Lions are the team. I'm most I'm still most scared of yeah For sure. Yeah, I mean their offense is insane. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I would say Lions too and then and then it's like the clump of Vikings Packers Rams bucks like all I don't know all those teams. They're fucking good. Do you have the commanders in last place in your NFC playoff power? I probably do.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Yeah, that's, that's fair. I probably do. They could be like the Bucks. They won't play them, but we lost to the Bucks. They won't play them. That is the last team that we beat in the playoffs was the Bucks. 2006. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:22 It's the first year of a rebuild. I would put us nothing. There's nothing to be ashamed of Oh, I'm not ashamed you guys who wouldn't play off game. I'm not saying that you can't I put us above the Seahawks Yeah, well Seahawks aren't in the playoffs right now right now. They're not yeah, so yes you are above the Seahawks Absolutely, you're above the Seahawks you're above The Panthers you're above the Cowboys you're above the Giants. You're above the Cowboys. You're above the Giants. You're above the Bears. Cowboys beat us.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Okay, maybe not the Cowboys. You're above the Saints. Cardinals. Cardinals. Niners. Yep, love it. Love it. A lot of these teams.
Starting point is 01:52:56 A lot of these teams. And Seahawks, do we have a update on what Gino? Thought it was his ankle. Knee maybe? Man. But that just changes everything if he's out. update on what you know, like those ankle knee maybe man, but that just changes everything if he's out. Because he's like the Seahawks are like I said, they're if the playoffs started today, they wouldn't be in it. Just happened just like that. Um, okay.
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Starting point is 01:54:38 Choose chill this holiday season and then reach for a Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit CoorsLight.com slash take or you can find it pretty much Anywhere that sells beer celebrate responsibility course brewing company golden Colorado course light comm slash take who's back the week Hank my who's back the week is LeBron James. Yeah, he is back No, is he back? Oh, yeah, where was he? No one knows people. There's rumors that uh, so he left the Lakers a few days ago No one knows people there's rumors that uh so he left the Lakers a few days ago They were asking JJ Reddick He said he doesn't really know and there was you know internet rumors circulating that he was maybe getting arrested that he was disappearing He was never coming back. He was retiring
Starting point is 01:55:17 It was very odd to be honest with you and then Sunday comes around and he gets reported that he's with the team shoot around comes out plays tonight played really well Oh had some explosive plays a couple chase down blocks a couple dunks in traffic I saw one tweet that said you know the time that he was gone is just enough time to go to Germany re up on Some you know PD and come back. I'm not saying that's what he was doing, but re up on some, you know, P D and come back. I'm not saying that's what he was doing, but it was weird the way it was, you know, he left and with LeBron and the media, they, you know, we'll talk about him nonstop and it kind of got slipped under the rug. So it
Starting point is 01:55:56 was strange. Uh, but he's back and all as well. Yeah. He just left. He's done this before. He did in Miami. I know that for a fact. Maybe the Germany thing. But it is weird. The problem is that LeBron James has his own little media ecosystem that's right around him. Yeah. And so they there are people that have like proven loyalty to LeBron's people. Right. And so they will not put out anything that's bad about him if he's not if he's not around. Yeah What do you think is going on Hank? It's weird. I
Starting point is 01:56:32 Have no idea. I got I I really don't you know I'm not an investigative journalist. I was getting mm-hmm DMs and Random like someone got my number. I don't even know who was texting me being being like LeBron just got arrested reported and obviously it's a random number I'm not gonna report that and I got DMS being like, you know, he's who knows it's all conspiracy shit So it's like I have no idea. I literally have no idea. It makes no sense. All I know is the fact that The the way it was under reported is is odd if LeBron got arrested I'm somebody would have leaked that yeah teams obviously teams. Yeah have. Obviously. TMZ would have. Obviously, no. He didn't get arrested.
Starting point is 01:57:06 But the whole thing is just odd. It's weird. It's weird. And I would love to know, like, do you think JJ Reddick's having fun? Do you think he knows and has to pretend like he doesn't know? The way he responded seemed like he actually didn't know. I think he doesn't know. Right.
Starting point is 01:57:22 I don't think LeBron tells anyone. There also is a chance that there's like something going on with his family. True. So we don't know. We don't know. I think he doesn't know. Right. I don't think LeBron tells anyone. There also is a chance that there's like something going on with his family. True. So we don't know. We don't know. But like you would think you would say, you know, I got some stuff going on. Just tell people I have some stuff going on. Yeah, right. No, no, no. Like, yeah, I have stuff going on with my family. Yeah. I'm going to be here. Yeah. I feel like JJ probably is not having the best time right now. Also, did you guys see the NBA ratings are not doing well? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:54 No. Time for a change. Maybe different color balls? Maybe different color balls. Maybe I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. I still like playoff basketball. The season is very long.
Starting point is 01:58:07 I've got an idea. What if what if the players like really cared? Yeah. That'd be good. They could try that. I don't know what the answer is, though. Hank, are you a little salty that the ratings are down when the Celtics? Yeah, I knew I knew that. I knew you were going to say that.
Starting point is 01:58:26 In this era, who even notices? I'm as tuned in as I ever have been. But it's tough to watch. It's tough to watch, meaning it's hard to find the games. You have to have a bunch of... They have all these games and all these different apps I think it's the same with MLB where it's like you can't just turn on the TV and watch a game you have to you know sometimes you have to log into this app to watch it or log into that app yeah I was watching in the metaverse on on Saturday that's sick it was awesome Joel and bead I saw him fall down in the
Starting point is 01:59:02 metaverse I felt like I was there for it. Oh, how are we doing on the 10 win hunt? Dead everyone's hurt. Yeah, what happened Joel and be gone? Did he yep dead oh Max gone yeah Max you just did in solidarity, huh? Yes sympathy foot Sympathy foot yep correct so is Joel is he out for a while I? Don't know is he got a sinus fracture? Yeah. Tom Wilson came back and played scored two goals. Sinus fracture. Same injury. Sounds very painful. Uh, yeah. Hey, I love that. Hey, Hank is salty about this. This is great. Well,
Starting point is 01:59:40 Hank also is great. He told me that he thought when he first read the report that Joel and Bede was out indefinitely because he had a sinus infection. Oh, which also is great. He told me that he thought when he first read the report that Joel and bead was out Indefinitely because he had a sinus infection. Oh Which would have been that would have been very fun. That would have been very funny Yeah, if he just needed the the like little neti pot. Yeah, whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, just gonna blow his nose Yeah, okay Good who's back? I don't know where LeBron has been. I'll tell you what will say the NBA Cooper flag. Yeah Cooper flag
Starting point is 02:00:04 it is like there I feel like they're at a little bit of a crossroads because they got like the stars of the league are old. Yeah. The league has been LeBron James. Right. For what? 21 years. Right. And you got to like LeBron. I mean, I don't know. Let me look at the standings. But LeBron, like the Lakers are the 10th seed. If you think about like the biggest stars the Steph and the Warriors or what the a seed So yeah, it's I mean Katie's the sixth seed it's it's hard when the the biggest stars You need a new new age. It's analytics. I blame analytics that two three point. That's you don't should be three That'd be sick. That would that's you don't should be three that'd be sick that would be nice dunk should be three that would be
Starting point is 02:00:48 awesome if they in the NBA Cup they just got rid of the three-pointer yeah but imagine if they made dunks threes everyone's just trying to fucking yam on each other constantly yeah that would be sick that would be sick okay who's your who's back PFT my who's back of the week is America. Because the Army Navy game went over. Went over. Yes. A lot of points.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Throwing the ball a little bit. That was a fun game to watch. It was very fun. It was a good time. And also, I like it when rivalry games happen like this. When one team is obviously when it's Army Navy, it's up in the air no matter what. But it's kind of like Michigan, Ohio state. Yeah. Where it was like, okay, army's having their top year this year and then Navy goes in and just smashes. Yeah. It was also
Starting point is 02:01:35 great if army had made the play. Oh my God. I mean the people who were saying that army should have made the playoffs. That's, that's a tough take, but that would be a very funny thing to wake up to on Sunday morning. Yeah. Cause Navy was just the better team. Yeah. The entire game. But it was awesome. It was a fun game to watch. And I liked the fact that it's it's its own thing. Yeah. There's no other games on. I'm glad that like if the NFL was in charge of college football,
Starting point is 02:01:58 they would schedule like a new weird round of the playoffs for that same day as army. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. My who's back is Chicago Cubs. We've got Kyle Tucker big. All right for one year. We're not going to pay him huge, but one year is going to be sick. Yeah, I just want to watch someone who actually can threaten to hit home runs on a consistent basis and he can do that. So when someone out and also the Yankees wanted them, but the Astros wouldn't trade it to him are the Yankees back to you who'd they get they got I think they're gonna get a bell And you got a closer right? Yeah, I think they got that they traded for Devin Williams. They also signed Max Fried
Starting point is 02:02:35 Yeah, they're gonna try to get Cody Bellinger. I think Which if they want to trade We scale for him. I'd do that but the Phillies also tried to trade for Kyle Tucker. Yeah. The Astros said, no, he's awesome at baseball. That actually makes me feel bad because that's I feel like the Astros are like, well, the Cubs won't be a problem. Yeah. Why did they say no? Because they said no to the Yankees.
Starting point is 02:03:00 They said no to the Phillies. Cubs, sure. Yeah, sure. They won't pay him in a year. Yeah. But one year of maybe being maybe winning more than like 83 games. That's kind of fun. I'm excited about it. I wanted something.
Starting point is 02:03:14 I wanted them to show a little life of like, hey, we can actually do something again. They probably won't resign him and that will make me even more mad. But at least it's going to be fun. You want to be in a playoff chase. Yeah. Yeah. I want a guy who the opposing pitcher fears. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:30 Kyle Tucker. It's nice. It's good to have like at least one of your teams be in the mix for something. I don't have any. Yeah. At all. Even close. The Cubs, I feel like the Cubs could be in the mix.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Probably not though. Probably not. Probably not. All right in the mix. Probably not, though. Probably not. Probably not. All right, anything else? Good show, boys. Anything else? Max, I feel bad for you.
Starting point is 02:03:54 I feel really bad. Oh, Max, are you going to cut out the lottery ball today? Oh, yeah. Sorry to everyone. Cut out the lottery ball. Cut out the love you guys. TD parlay hit. TD parlay.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Yeah, ho-ho ho did I get it? You did not get it that was memes memes was sabotaging a lot of all max max Max called me I like obviously I understand people like it It's part of the show, but it was on the YouTube and the rumble so you could have watched it like it was documented Just got cut out of the podcast, but I did appreciate Max's remorse when he called me on Friday morning. It sounded like he was gonna cry. He's just like, I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 02:04:31 I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to have. I got karma. I got punished for my actions on Friday. That doesn't feel like a fair punishment. I lost a foot. Losing a foot off of screwing up the lottery ball alright
Starting point is 02:04:45 Well, this is gonna be in there right this will be in alright numbers memes have you gotten this before? I did not win this no you know I got it 11 17 there you go 8 3 63 94 pug Shane Jack 44 63. 94 Pug. Shane, Jack. 44. 21. 51. 51.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Not even close, sweeps. Love you guys. So So So So Thanks for watching!

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