Pardon My Take - NFL Week 15 Fastest 2 Minutes, Colts Are For Real, Lions Huge Win And Recap Of Every Game

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

NFL Fastest 2 Minutes kicks us off and we then go through every game from Sunday ( 00:02:04- 00:08:11) Colts/Patriots (00:08:11 - 00:17:30) Steelers/Titans (00:17:30 - 00:31:14) Lions/Cardinals (00:31:14 - 00:47:01) Bucs/Saints (00:47:01 - 00:51:48) Dolphins/Jets (00:51:48 - 00:59:31) Bills/Panthers (00:59:31 - 01:15:01) Cowboys/Giants (01:15:01 - 01:26:59) Texans/Jaguars ( 01:26:59 - 01:33:31) 49ers/Faclons (01:33:31 - 01:43:02) Bengals/Broncos (01:44:25 - 01:48:20) Ravens/Packers (01:48:20 - 02:01:19) Football guy of the week and who's back of the week wraps up the show.  (02:01:19 - 02:27:13)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, week 15, fastest two minutes, and then we recap every game. Kind of sad week because we have weird football schedules and everything's all out of order because of COVID, but we will talk about every game. Football thrillers, couple great games, Lions, unbelievable, Dan Campbell, Coach of the Year, we'll get to that.

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Wait? Huh? What? Huh? It says the Lions beat the Cardinals 30-12. Is someone jerking me golf? What the hell's going on? Well then.

We start in Detroit where Amon Ross, Saint What Can Brown Do For You continues his hot streak and Craig Kilborn Reynolds was resourceful. The Cardinals are now left wondering is Cliff Dingleberry, the right coach for the job as Kyler Bill Murray and his coach are in Groundhog's Day with a second straight late season swoon. Lions 30, Cardinals 12. To Pittsburgh where it was the Lobo Bowl and as Jim Nancy Reagan reminded us, everyone loves Dick. In a touching tribute to the mid-80s, the Tennessee Titans suffered a Chernobyl-like

meltdown after Bud Dupri was pushed to his limits following a core injury. Thankfully, the Geo-Pittsburgh Steelers have pushed to fill his shoes. Ben, but don't break Rottlesburger is a month and a half late on Daylight Savings Time falling forward twice for a touchdown. Long Island Ice TJ Watt was very strong and delivered multiple shots and Titans fans were singing I'm gonna love you forever. Randy Travis Bullock, but the Steelers will own this rivalry forever and ever, hate in. Steelers 19, Titans 13.

Some spread. In Western New York where Gabe Capler Davis looked like he hit the sauce before this one scoring two touchdowns. Speaking of Davis, let us be the first to wish Anthony Davis a speedy recovery after the vicious attack his own teammate LeBron James laid upon his knee. Posh Allen is back in the NFL's elite and be advised Stefan Quiggs is back to making magic on the green screen that is a football field. The Panthers are now 0 and 12 in the last 12 who did this fam Newton starts as the Skull

Emoji surround the Carolina locker room. No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills Bills 31 Panthers 14. You got the cocoa boom to the metal lens we go where Pepsi Day was a far cry from the 80s when LT was taking all the free coke. It was not quite a miracle on the Hudson for the German as Prescott is piloting the boys playing duck duck goose breaking the plane. Mike's hard Glen and Abe got his long neck cracked coping and New York's secret Manhattan project Jake the atomic from trying to prove that although Danny Dimes might not be the

hero he told they want he is the hero he told they deserve the Dallas Cowboys 21 the New York football Giants 6 down to Miami the Jets ordered up a Braxton Barrios Cranberries juice touchdown in the first quarter had everyone asking what you got you paid Duke Johnson and Johnson had not one shot but two shots at the end zone to boosted the Dolphins offense the Miami quarterback through two touchdown of the laws and Christian Worm Wilkins found his soil in the end zone the Dolphins have won six in a row Miami 31 in the Jets 24 in Jacksonville Davis pills don't stop branded too many TDs kitchen fuck I fucked it up boom keep going teach Jacksonville Davis pills don't stop branded too many TDs in the

kitchen cucks for two scores huh huh and Tremont will Smith said welcome to Jacksonville where the players play as he took one back 98 yards of the house maybe it wasn't Urban's fault after all Texas beat Jaguars 36 team some spread at mile high points were rare in the first half but Evan have no mixed fear son Evan's foot is here the rookie made three field goals including a 58 yarder meanwhile the Broncos hung around when Tim Patrick made things dramatic and the Bengals lead became climactic as Denver fans got ecstatic on a celebration that was problematic but in the end bro burrow said we damn boys when he threw a touchdown to Tyler to steal the deal for Cincinnati bar scene Broncos 10 fucking bars boom bars

in the big bell bottom we go where Jimmy Garoppolo got his nose bloodied from just a tiny ardent keybop but the 49ers have a great giggle thank god love young way coup runnings and Atlanta season is going downhill like a bobsled team as the Falcons are falling far down the NFC South Park with coach Smith demands his players respect his authority and singing Kyle's mom is a big old pitch a big old pitch 49ers 31 Falcons 13 we finish in Baltimore where Ravens fans started the day saying miss you so much for Lamar Janet Jackson and his hurt ankle but it was Tyler who stunt lead on the haters with a great performance in relief Aaron he should be in jail or prisoner both Rodgers found the Edzone three times and AJ Tim Dillon scored a touchdown and reminded

everyone that touchdown is exactly what Bill Clinton did on Jeffrey Epstein's plane multiple times is John Harbaugh addicted to going for two does he have a two-point addiction a problem with two points the Packers take down the Ravens 31 30 and that is weak 15 a little bit different because for the first time in a very long time we didn't all watch football together due to COVID protocols PFT is still fighting the cocoa so I have an announcement to make real quick actually okay okay I took I took a rapid test today test the negative boys there we go okay I drank enough C4 that my my cells got fucking swollen aggressive and just I drank so much water that I pissed this COVID right out so you might see you might we might be back in studio together on Tuesday but

so it's it is the COVID episodes the COVID tapes the COVID files for this show everyone is remote I'm in the studio and we broke up the boomers everyone wrote some and we had Hank Jake and Billy chip in I'm just gonna say it Jake he won he won the the chip in he was incredible that was incredible incredible job by Jake so the jake good rap like that and I also think that this is Hank's first time doing boomers right I thought you did one way I feel like you've done one you've done probably something like a line or two yeah some PMT historian will correct us with that I written lines before there's not done it yeah there have been a couple times when it's been like featuring Hank Lockwood yeah this was the first time to get a full verse but it was good

it was it was good that we all chipped in that's called teamwork there it is weird not watching football with you guys but we got to talk week 15 we got to talk week 15 we're watching the Saints Bucks game right now it's like probably end of the third quarter the Bucks are struggling mightily with the Saints when that game goes final we'll recap it so let's get into the weekend of football and we got to start with Saturday night Saturday night Colts 27 Patriots 17 Hank before I go to you I will just say it out loud I'm officially nervous about my pinky if you don't remember the Colts are my pinky team I am officially nervous about the tip of my pinky I spent Saturday night looking at the the nail on my left pinky being like this I'm this might be gone it

might just be a nub but yeah the Colts that was a that was a win the Colts like needed and it felt like the biggest win the Colts have had in a very long time well I beat the bells like two weeks yeah that's true but the bills aren't weren't the number one team in the AFC given you know going into Saturday night so and the way they did it they did it with running the ball Jonathan Taylor is an absolute monster and if you are someone who's rooting against the Colts which I put myself in that category because of my pinky that game gives me great concern because Carson Wentz played so poorly and they still found a way to win he was 5 for 12 for 57 yards and they still won that game mostly due to their defense and Jonathan Taylor being incredible this was a big time game

we're going into it everybody was saying just reminding everyone about the whole you know Bill Belichick will take away your biggest strength that's what Bill Belichick does he's not going to let Jonathan Taylor beat you well guess what that's exactly what happened like like you said Carson Wentz 5 of 12 for 57 yards and Jonathan Taylor just straight up beat you although Jonathan Taylor should have gone down on that last carry as your good friend Pete Prisco pointed out should have gone down before he reached the end zone there's a selfish play by Jonathan Taylor I don't think it's a bad thing go for Hank and the rest of the Patriots fans out there and the reason why is I actually think they needed to get their ass kicked a little bit

this Patriots team hasn't really gotten chewed out in a while by Bill Belichick so now as our good friend Julian Edelman would say he's got some ass chewing material Bill Belichick is going to be living inside the Patriots asses this week and I think they're probably going to be better in the long term for it he did look extraordinary after the game like like extra angry at the media and then there was a report today I don't know if you guys saw but it was Mac Jones and some of the Patriots essentially said they had a terrible week of practice and they completely botched the bye week not enough energy and practice not practicing well so which is very unlike a Bill Belichick team but I I agree with you pft like you can you can come away from it

and be like oh the Patriots were flying too high they had to lose at some point better now than in in January on the flip side the Chiefs now have a stranglehold on the one seat and the Chiefs have if they went out which would be incredible given the fact the Chiefs were three and four and we all were saying what's wrong with the Chiefs the Super Bowl might go through Arrowhead and after seeing what happened on Saturday night Mac Jones on the road in a hostile environment big game it has to make you a little bit concerned no Hank oh yeah it absolutely does I mean he's a rookie this obviously they won in Arrowhead a few years ago but I was with Brady I mean it was kind of like the other games they lost where they were in it they made some mistakes

but it wasn't like they got their doors blown off per se I think I think the Saints was the only one that was really really bad I don't know the block pun they've had three block puns this year that's very also unlike Belichick that kind of was the was the maker break in the game they dropped a bunch of interceptions I kind of agree with what pft was saying though like I was saying in a couple weeks ago they might have been peaking too soon if they had one out it would be if they had one out they would have been due for loss that might have happened in the playoffs like pft said there you go this might have woken them up a little bit Belichick's gonna be able to get into them the refocus after the bi-week and kind of this is like the start of this is the

start of season two this is the start of the real season oh I like it no you would it is Hank it's like in in tv shows where they bring them back for a very anticipated season they break the season up yes two parts yeah like the Sopranos in that final season where they broke it up when they were going after Philly at Tardo and then we had to come back to see them shoot them and have the car run over his head yes exactly that's that's what they're doing right now I did get Julian has been actually like sending me little voice memos on Sundays he does that he's voice memo it's not text which is he's a big voice guy it's hard because I wanted to save one of the clips but I'm I don't know how to save the clips yet on my phone because they disappear

it's like that chat it's really good technology but one of the things that he said was they need some bill motherfucking they need bill to start motherfucking the team a little bit and I agree entirely I actually think that the way that they've been winning recently and mac jones really not doing anything at all has been bad for mac jones because he hasn't been able to make those mistakes and he made they say like you you learn three times as much from a mistake as you do from some that you do correctly mac jones is going to learn so much this week yes yes see what I mean he wasn't he had moments where it looked like he was kind of figuring it out but he had he they got too far behind and I don't think the Patriots aren't built for that

like they're a defense run the ball mac jones has you know he does a really good job of like keep moving the change I know these all cliches but it really like the the Patriots are one gigantic football cliche this year and how they've won their games so to get behind have to come back on the road two other notes from this game I I've totally forgotten till they mentioned it but it is very funny we the angle of josh mcdaniel's uh the Colts having a revenge game against josh mcdaniel's for that like time that he was their coach for a second and then decided not to be that's always funny I wish I had remembered that um and then what was my others thought fuck fuck I'm gonna have worries back on the rivalries back on no I can't wait to see this

on hard knocks oh yes thank you hard knocks so I am nervous about my pinky I do think that as long as the titans can win I was looking at it if the Colts if the Colts win out and the titans lose two of their last three the Colts can win the afc south which would make me a lot more anxious about my pinky because right now as it currently sits the Colts have to win three road games just to get to the Super Bowl and that's Carson Wentz going on the road winning three road games I like my chances but yeah there were people who were saying and it got me a little maybe too woke that the NFL like what's the best way to breathe some life into a dying franchise oh how about hard knocks of the Super Bowl champions being filmed during the season that makes me nervous

yeah I think that that's something that you should definitely be nervous about the NFL it would not be above them to have the Colts do this and go and run number one they get they get a lot of ratings just because people would be talking about your pinky number two they need to have a storyline they can't have this just end up the Colts narrowly narrowly missing the playoffs and fizzling out at the end of the year but I think the way things are going right now it's trending more in the direction of the Colts are they are peaking at the right time right now and they are they are officially my don't look now team in the afc so it's the Niners of the NFC I'm not looking now at the Colts in the NFC yeah no they definitely have a formula and it's

scary but I just got to keep reminding myself Carson Wentz Carson Wentz and he even tried to give away the game because he is Carson Wentz and like he's just goofy and I just don't if he has to go on the road Carson Wentz on the road come on I that's don't be worried but all right let's move on because so the Colts have the Cardinals on Saturday I believe which will be a very big test for them although the Cardinals are fading and then they finish with the Raiders and Jaguars so if they beat the Cardinals there's a good chance they could win the afc south all right next game the Steelers Titans this was an all-time Tomlin Ra Ra game it started with the Titans stomping on the Steelers logo which we talked about last week never touch another man's logo now it is

oh and two and back to back weeks of Will Compton teams or former teams stomping on logos then losing the game but this game was like the Steelers the Steelers just are addicted to starting slow and being in like I think they've had three weeks in a row they've had we need to save our season with the second half moments they have started the last three three games they're two and one in the last three games they've been outscored 43 to 6 in the first half 43 to 6 so this one was no different in the first half look like the Titans were cruising and then the Steelers defense just woke up and basically won this game for them I don't even like we love Ben we want one more year but this was if you give a game ball it'd go to the entire Steelers defense because they won this

game with four turnovers our virtual game ball yes the entire Steelers defense the official virtual game ball a part of my take I think that's a that's a pretty good assessment of where things went with us because the Titans defense is they're still really good they're giving up like 200 yards of game but they just keep losing and good performances so it almost it almost feels like I want to be the first person to be like Ryan Tannehill is who we thought he was but my brain is still back in like 2017 when Ryan Tannehill sucked he's been pretty good for the last several years but he does need a competent run game so you can't have like Ryan Tannehill go out there and just like be he's the guy he needs to have an option an option that'll make the defense honest

and when he doesn't have that then they just tee off on him yeah TJ TJ what was awesome today as he has been whenever he's been in the game but I think my if I had to give a second play ball game ball I would give it to big Ben just for that the part of my take play of the day was big Ben's back to back quarterback sneaks he hadn't run a quarterback sneak all year he did it from the one yard line fell down and the most hilarious part of that was the first one he sprints forward like half a yard falls down very slowly and then he just lays on the ground for about 16 seconds face down he looked like Tyron Woodley after the fight just his face was on the goal line one because he was trying to show the ref that the ball had crossed the goal line during the play

that's that's what he was saying he was doing but he was just catching his breath for like 16 seconds he looked like a dead man on the ground then he got up and everyone's like there's no chance that he's they're probably gonna have to take big Ben out of the game and let somebody else take a snap after that half yard run he just had but then he just fell forward again and got into the end zone that was a touching moment he and I think you guys all watched on red zone I was in the office so I got to see all it was actually nice there were six games on so I had all six games on big Ben also had another unbelievable play which probably didn't make it to red zone because it was completely unremarkable where there was a blitz I think it was in the first quarter maybe the second quarter

and he basically just chucked the ball to Najee Harris standing next to him being like here you get you you get smushed by the defense like it wasn't a designed run it wasn't any it was it was just like hot potato here you take this because he is self-preservation Ben even though he got he got lit up too on that RPO which I don't know why they're running RPOs with big Ben but they were and he got fucking smoked on that um yeah this game though TJ Watt is I know he won't win it but he should win defensive player of the year and I know that Brown's fans would be like Miles Garrett Miles Garrett Miles Garrett's been incredible Miles Garrett will probably win defensive player of the year but if you're talking about impact on a team TJ Watt has 17 and a half sacks

and he's played 10 full games he's so the Steelers when he's playing they're seven and three when he's either missed a game or gone out of a game which happened in the Vikings game in the Lions game they're oh three and one so like he may he does everything for them you know what I mean he and their defense still gets gashed running the ball like they get they get run on non-stop but they made enough plays and you know four turnovers I think to your Ryan Tannehill point it's just Ryan Tannehill is like when you take away Derek Henry AJ Brown and Julio Jones he's not good which is not like a knock on Ryan Tannehill it's just he is who we thought we were like if you if you take away guys for Patrick Holmes or Aaron Rodgers I think they'll still

be able to show flashes Ryan Tannehill when you take away everything from him he's just a guy this is why I hate Ryan Tannehill and probably always will because I was I was always saying he's going to go back to who I thought that he was for like two and a half years and then he just kept doing it so I had to admit that I was wrong about Ryan Tannehill and now he's good so there's no chance in hell I'm ready to go back and be like see I told you I was right because I already admitted I was wrong he's fucking me over on my take so let that be a lesson to all the youngsters out there aspiring podcasters never ever admit that you're wrong because if you just wait long enough you'll end up being right yeah because he'll retire and you'll be like yeah he retired

because he's not good anymore yeah he sucks now yeah um Joe he's 85 and died I told you yeah fucking Ryan Tannehill dead bitch I win uh Joe Hayden's tackle was awesome and that spot was like I don't know what they were looking at this was also an all-time Tony Romo game he that uh roughing the passer call that he tried to he speaking of like sticking with your take where he tried to say that the guy was thrown into uh Big Ben and oh Tom Brady just fumbled the bucks are falling apart the bucks are falling this is concerning his body language is so bad speaking of injuries letter for nets out Mike Evans Chris Godwin all hurt in this game not good not good for anyone who hates the Packers and hopes they don't win the Super Bowl this year uh but yeah oh

guess what I I saw Mike Florio's tweet earlier this is some bad news for Big Cat um so our birthday is not you know Big Cat's is on January 30th mine is on January 31st birthday week if you want to send us anything not saying that you have to but it would be nice uh it's Big Cat's birthday is on Championship Sunday there's a good chance that Aaron Rodgers will be playing in Green Bay on Big Cat's birthday to go to the Super Bowl it's gonna ruin yeah it's gonna ruin your birth it's gonna ruin birthday week because I can't be happy because we're such a we're team players here I got your back I can't celebrate my birthday with Big Cat probably with a gun in his mouth thought experiment would they arrest the guy if he ran on the field and and took a bat

to the back of Aaron Rodgers knee if it was his birthday probably not like hey this is my you get one birthday wish you know what that's what I'll do I'll just wake up that morning and I'll I'll have a cake with candles and that will be my wish as an owner of the Packers I will I will instruct security to turn a blind eye if you choose to do that there we go thank you um Joe Hayden's uh tackle was incredible that was awesome and and yeah Tony Romo was having whatever we've been we've been down this road with this podcast I think we're on the right side of history but it's gonna much like the Ryan Tannehill take I think it's gonna take probably 10 years for people to be like hey those guys were right everyone thought there were haters were not uh he just

doesn't let the broadcast breathe ever um and I think that yeah the broadcaster over replacements like if you're talking about baseball players the war the war on Tony Romo considering what they pay him I mean you could get 100 guys off the street that would do that job for you know like Jake would be better I think if you took into account Jake salary hit yes um Big Band did uh end up after this game fifth all-time passing yards that's kind of nice fifth all-time fifth all-time passing yards Brady Breeze Manning Farve Rothesberger so here's what we really need to be rooting for is is for the Steelers to make the playoffs to get all the momentum going Big Bend to win a playoff game like absolutely smoke them drop like four touchdowns nine yards rushing just

having an incredible game for Big Bend and then losing a heartbreaking fashion maybe an overtime in the next round so Big Bend is like I've got unfinished business I I'm coming back I I mean I'm rooting for it I want the Steelers to make the playoffs one last ride this Steelers team though they they somehow don't have an identity even though they try to have an identity because they can't like list it they can't run the ball their offense leads the league in throwing it short of the first down marker on third down their defense is really good but also gets gash running the ball teams run all over them so I guess their identity is to just like Big Bend to make a couple of fuck it throw deep plays and turnovers that's their identity they're kind of built like a Disney

movie they've got the the old veteran on his last legs they've got Mr. All-American TJ Watt on the other side who's just like constantly getting injured and fighting through injuries TJ Watt's brother on offense the unheralded Watt you got the hard-ass coach and Mike Tomlin and then you you got you got a wide receiver that's all over the map mentally right now that just needs to be reigned in that needs to learn a lesson that needs to be taught by the by the veteran on his way out and then maybe they all they'll all put it together and they'll make like a he'll make an awesome heads-up play in a playoff game to win be like thank you for teaching me Ben I've finally learned how to be professional yeah Chase Claypool is the dancing candle holder and beauty in the

beast just say stupid shit like what are you doing dude uh in every single game goes the same way they just go down big and then they rah rah rah find a way to win so I Steelers fans have to be having like mini heart attacks every game and I don't who do they have left they have I think they have a tough oh they play the chief so this is probably all gonna be for not but I really do want the Steelers to make the playoff because I want Ben to have one last ride and I want exactly what you said to happen where it's like they get close enough they win a game or they maybe even to get to the like luck into the afc championship game just so we can get one more year so they're playing at the chiefs home against the Browns at the Ravens I don't know that's tough that's very tough

so I I hope that it happens it's probably not not going to but I'm also just rooting for us to get one last extended gif out of Ben like the one in his last game last year where he was just sitting on the bench staring at nothing with marquis bouncy yeah thinking about nothing I need I need to have one last iconic moment of big Ben I I need that very very much and is it me or was this the Titan Steelers I feel like the Titans fucked up a few years ago when it came to giving them bulletin board material like they stomped on the terrible towel right that was like 10 years ago yeah yeah yeah they stomped on the I think it was Randy Bullock it was like a very long time ago yeah it was a lot it was a lot but that's still what I remember just learn your lesson don't step on

another man's logo and definitely don't step on a towel yeah I think it might even been the Jeff Fisher Titans look it up Jake it was for some reason now is in like the news recently oh yeah I mean that's yeah you do not do not fuck with a terrible towel people take it very seriously we have a one of our favorite co-workers here Jen Simons who's a diehard Steelers fan we needed to do a video and we needed a terrible towel I think it was maybe for advisors and she brought it in for us and she was like this is like a family heirloom like don't don't mess with this like I need this back right away it's like but it's just a yellow towel no no no no don't tell Pittsburgh that that towel means something I respect the terrible towel I do too I don't want to fuck

with the terrible towel hell no hell no what do you got what year was it 2008 at the conclusion a couple years ago yeah a few years ago the Steelers defense Avenge Von Kurs blew his nose into the terrible towel Keith Bullock spit on it and kicked it and running back Lemdell White stomped on the towel and Lemdell White you said you said Randy Bullock I said Randy Bullock you said a couple years ago Randy Bullock Keith Bullock did it yeah Keith Bullock did it I knew who I was talking about everybody else out there knew who I was talking about too that's aggressive I didn't remember that it was uh that they spat into it and blew their nose on it and then stepped on it that's that's overkill yeah you gotta you gotta dial it back they really went falling um all right

and then the Steelers won that year they won the Super Bowl that year so there was yeah yeah because this is 2009 Super Bowl um okay AJ Brown might be back for the Titans though on Thursday night they played quick turnaround so I don't know the Titans are gonna make the playoffs it's probably it's probably pretty tough for them not to make the playoffs because I think they still have a game against the Texans even though they've lost to the Texans um but they are so fucking battered and injured that I don't know what you expect oh they're playing the Niners on Thursday night that's a tough game very hey Julio Jones remember him yeah well he he heard his hamstring again um just goes to show that uh maybe we don't know everything because remember in the off season

we're like that's not fair Julio Jones the Titans why didn't everyone try to get Julio Jones this is crazy they got him for nothing well maybe because that was a report yeah a little older that was a report that was first confirmed by Adam Shaffter on Twitter you remember that way they made the graphic that was said like from Adam Shaffter on it he started it yeah yeah that was the absolute best but yeah Julio just that was another one of my futures bets I think I had Julio Jones over seven touchdowns this year I've been waiting on that one to come in so I can keep gambling turns out he finished the season with zero touchdowns yeah ooh speaking of future bets next game Lions 30 Cardinals 12 does Jared Goff have enough time to win the MVP because he was

fucking awesome today he was awesome and I actually I said at the start of the show like you could make an argument for Dan Campbell being the coach of the year the fact that Lions just beat the Cardinals that was that was only the third time in the last I think it was 20 years no there's I think it was the third time in Super Bowl era where the worst team beat the best team including ties good news for the Cardinals the last two times that happened the best team went on to win the Super Bowl the 1995 Dallas Cowboys and the 2004 New England Patriots but that was Dan Campbell like this team getting two wins and fighting in every game it's it's crazy it's awesome to see like the Lions that they they they dominated the Cardinals that wasn't a

fluke that wasn't a weird win they dominated the Cardinals and we could talk about the Cardinals like but the Lions deserve all the credit in the world for still fighting for Dan Campbell and coming out and punching the Cardinals in the mouth that was a whooping is what it was they beat the shit out of the Cardinals at the Cardinals I've been thinking about them all year I've been thinking about putting the F word on them I know I thought about putting the S word on the soft word they are frauds the Cardinals are are definitely fraudulent the Lions just kicked the shit out of them and yeah you could make the argument Dan Campbell coach of the year there were a bunch of games that they probably should have won against good teams earlier like they should have beat the

Ravens back in September you remember that one was 1917 and that was the one where Justin Tucker hit the crossbar bounced it in on that last kick that was like a league record right NFL record for the longest kick ever yep they've been playing teams pretty pretty strong for the entire season so not surprised see Dan Campbell starting to win games I think without a doubt they're the best two and eleven team of all time Dan Campbell can make a claim to that I I don't know any team that would be within four and a half points of them in a on a neutral field right now they're also the only team that's ever been I think that has had a record of one or fewer wins beating a team that has 10 or more wins by double digits ooh that's a that's a stat that is a stat that's one of those

stats that makes you like spin your head and they're like okay I get it yeah makes sense Cliff Kingsbury is also just a membo so nothing in his head nothing I want to talk about Cliff Kingsbury because I have long thought that he is a fraud uh and he so the Cardinals Jake put in a reminder to bet the Cardinals in the first two months of the season because this is now playing out exactly like last year where Kyler Murray was incredible Kyler Murray gets dinged up which I I'll get I'll say like he probably has heard a little bit but the Cardinals last year started six and three finished the season on a two and five skid this year they started eight and one and they're two and three since then and they faced the Colts on Saturday they like Cliff Kingsbury Brandon Staley

you can say whatever you want about him just being addicted to going forward on fourth down he has a process and he has like he's instilled confidence in his team on like this is what we're going to do and it makes sense long term not game by game but long term and I actually understand it and for the most part I agree with everything Brandon Staley does Cliff Kingsbury I think he just fucking wings it like the this game went they're down 10 nothing going into like with two minutes left fourth and three in the first half they go for it then in the second half they're down 17 nothing fourth and three they kick a field goal then they're down 24 three which you need three touchdowns in the in the third quarter and they kick another field goal so

like why did you go for it the first time then kick field goals the second time I think he just wings it I don't know I it makes no sense to me I also think like Cliff Kingsbury I've always thought that the reason why he's looked good in the NFL is because Kyler Murray is that good and he has that many good weapons around him that a lot of the stuff is like backyard football like Kyler Murray just makes great plays and he makes his coach look a lot better than he probably is I you just you can't tell me the Cardinals with all the talent they have going to Detroit and getting like like I said it wasn't like a close game where it's a fluke here there they got absolutely punked punched in the face that to me is not a well coached team like they

were even on on defense it felt like they were all standing around Jeragoff was slicing them up every third down they the Lions converted it was crazy it was crazy so that's my Cliff Kingsbury rants I'm done believing that like the Cardinals are something better than what they are like Kyler Murray's incredible if he can stay healthy he's clearly a franchise quarterback but Cliff Kingsbury I have no trust in him he's a membo he's nothing going there's nothing going on upstairs and and I think that you're right there's a lot of stuff that gets covered up by Kyler Murray there's so many times during a game where they end up with a big chunk play like a 20 30 yard play but at the start of the play Kyler drifts back in the backfield and does two spin moves right to get away from

the rush gets outside the pocket and then hits a guy coming across the middle that happens all the time and that's not a result of the offense being awesome that's a result of having you know Hopkins before he got injured or AJ Green getting open and Kyler hitting him on like an improvisational play so yeah Kingsbury is a membo and I like the term that you use punked that needs to be incorporated into our spectrum of getting your ass kicked I think you can say they got whooped they got punked they got sunned I think they got sunned by Dan Campbell today so here's what a punking is when you have way better team like the the Lions get deserve a ton of credit and and you should be proud if your Lions fan that like you showed up and you beat the best team record wise

tied for the best record in the NFL the Cardinals have more talent than the Lions they just do like the Lions secondary has been ravaged they should have been able to pass on them the the Lions showed up and did whatever they want they ran the ball down their throats they they punked them and again cap game you can't you can't tell me that's a good coach doesn't get punked like that by bad teams good coaches good teams don't lose like that and get punked like that it just doesn't happen and it was the way they lost like if they had lost in a crazy bang bang play at the end of the game I'm like you know what that happens any given Sunday this game was never close like this game was never close the the the the Lions came out and they just wanted to win so significantly

more than the Cardinals I have something for you too PFT this is crazy they're gonna make the Cardinals will most likely make the playoffs yeah and I say most likely because they finish against the Colts who might be the hottest team in in football right now uh then they have to go to Dallas then they play the Seahawks the Cardinals might make the playoffs on like a five game losing streak that's like this is not an easy stretch for them down down the the end of the season right here I also feel like the Seahawks always play the Cardinals tough or maybe they don't necessarily play them tough they just play them weird right and and a weird game is not one that Cliff can win as you said earlier like he can he can calculate the number of ounces that go into an eight ball

but he can't divide by seven right right and it's good teams Bill Balachek Andy Reed like look what the Chiefs have done this year look what the Patriots used to do like pretty much every year September comes in and they're figuring things out and everyone's hand rings and says oh what's wrong with them and then by Thanksgiving in December they're playing their best football and they've figured it out and they've they're they're starting to play to their strengths it's the opposite in the last two years for the Cardinals and you can't tell me that isn't that doesn't fall on Cliff Kingsbury's fucking you know shoulders you just can't I hadn't thought today about about how the Lions are kind of playing their way out of that number one draft pick yeah they are because they've

got some competition now that's tough but it's not like there's gonna be a franchise quarterback that's gonna be taken first overall can you pick it I don't maybe can you pick it's gonna do the thing where he just keeps rising up draft boards after the season is over but as of right now it doesn't look like there's gonna be quarterback taking the top five so the Lions are probably gonna they might lose that number one overall so in fact I feel like the Lions are maybe like if I'm doing power rankings right now I would put the Lions at 27 in the NFL 28 yeah in the NFL they're way better than the record is but it would be such a good storyline if they were able to draft number one overall and get Aiden Hutchinson yes to be to be their their like centerpiece on the

defense they picked up Sewell last year who's going to be playing there for a while on the offensive line get another badass dude in on defense get Aiden Hutchinson in fact if Aiden Hutchinson gets drafted by like the Jaguars first overall he should he should pull an Eli Manning in demand to go to the Lions agreed that would that would be awesome to see him staying in town yeah um Amon St. Ra Amon Ra St. Brown uh he needs a shout out because if you're a Lions fan you're like looking for these things you know obviously winning this game is huge and it feels good because if you can get to that point of the season where like the Lions are fighting far more than the Bears are fighting you know what I mean like the Lions are a team that is actually

trying every single Sunday where there's a ton of teams out there the Jaguars the I mean the Jets kind of tried a little today but there's a lot a ton of teams that have packed it in the Lions keep fighting but uh Amon Ross St. Brown he's had 26 catches in the last three games he's like those are the things you look for like oh this is a guy that could be good going forward you know what I mean like that's fun for Lions fans it's a weird thing to say in a season that you're you've been the worst team in the league record wise for the entire season but like there's little things that you're looking at now like hey maybe this thing is starting to turn around the small the small pieces are starting to turn around I also like Dan Campbell just doing on-sides kicks

when it doesn't really make any sense you might as well just on-side kick every single time dude that's how bad the Cardinals were though they on-side kicked it didn't recover and like that was in the I think it was a first or second quarter first quarter first quarter you're like oh now the Cardinals are going to go down score no they didn't because they Kyler was off again he might be injured I'm going to give Kyler more credit than I give Cliff Kingsbury because I think Kyler will outlast Cliff Kingsbury but something's wrong with the Cardinals and it's the second year in a row this is happening if you're playing with the Cardinals on Madden today you would have raged quit yeah raged quit by the third quarter just like unplugged the entire console be like the game's

cheating right now how are the lines beating me they weren't ready for it they they weren't ready for the smoke that Dan Campbell is that what the kids are saying yep they didn't want the smoke Cliff Kingsbury didn't want the smoke Cliff Kingsbury should have taken the Oklahoma job when Adam Schefter tweeted about it absolutely he's regretting that oh there's one other thing from this game there was a Twitter user Rusky997 he's a Cardinals fan he tweeted going into the game that if the Cardinals lose to the Lions he would get Jared Goff's name tattooed on his nutsack love it he deactivated oh he shut down his account we need to find Rusky997 you gotta pay up man well that's gonna cut his finger off yeah the tip yeah he's gonna cut his pinky off if the Colts win the

Super Bowl and he's not gonna deactivate Big Cat will never log off Rusky997 you need to you need to log back on and sack out speaking of cowards the Arizona Cardinals uh Twitter account the last tweet they had was Kyler Murray connects with Christian Kirk for a 26-yard touchdown fucking cowards this is like they still haven't tweeted they still have not tweeted I've been I've been trying to bully them into tweeting the final score you can't do that the final score tweet is where all the teams that beat you all the fans that beat you get to to rally and like have like a little mini chat session underneath your tweet you can't steal that from them and I'm pretty sure that those final you know what Big Cat we need to find examples of their other final tweets from

previous games because those are always sponsored they have a corporate partner right that gets their logo put on there we need to find those tweets see who sponsors those and then we need to narc on the Cardinals to their corporate sponsor be like listen they're not fulfilling their end of the advertising bargain you need to get on them but they need to make good pft they didn't tweet after the Rams loss either they're cowards it's the cowards the number one coward twitter account of any any team out there and I say that after Texas stopped tweeting during the Red River River shootout and didn't tweet for two days uh after they lost that game even they showed up and finally faced the music and you know got their comeuppance it's from the it's from the top down

that's the fish stinks from the top down Big Cat Cliff Kingsbury set the tone for this organization this is where why you can't take the Cardinals seriously because they basically get to slip by slip under the cracks you know in the cracks here because no one's like asking for the Cardinals to tweet after a game I'm asking I'm demanding the Cardinals tweet the final law score so that Lions fans can have their moments do you know it is their their social media person is probably Rusky 997 deactivated logging off for life he's not even he's not even running the official account also yeah look look who the corporate sponsors because we need to narc to them about it find it for I think that's how that's how we put pressure on so I've got one thing Big Cat you asked me to

remind you uh to bet on the Cardinals the first two months of next season I have a reminder already set Thursday September 8th from our week seven episode to remind you that Kyler Murray's Mr. September October whoa all right so this is like yeah confirmed this is past Big Cat if I were LeBron right now I'd write an Instagram story to past Big Cat being like you were a smart motherfucker too bad you forgot yeah and you put him in the camp October 24th you already made that take and here you are again eight weeks later unbelievable all right I'm out on the Cardinals officially done done chaining on frauds frauds um all right before we get to the next game quick word from our friends at Coors light Coors light as you know is the greatest beer ever created Coors light is

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like they they don't get the one seed now because the Packers are probably going to win out Godwin gets hurt Mike Evans gets hurt Leonard Furnett gets hurt that's a fucking nightmare of a game Vita Vage is celebrated a tackle for a one-yard loss on second down they're down nine points six but actually this game's not over yet big cat it's over you're doing there's too much time on the counter on Brady right now counting outside he doesn't have any weapons anymore like there's everyone got hurt I don't even see Mike Evans get hurt we need to we need to do a thing where we go back and look at Bruce Arian's face over the course of the season by the way because his face is so red tonight I know Jake did a Pantone check on it we should get a screenshot

from every single game of Bruce Arian's on the sideline and see how his his face is getting redder and redder over the year Jake it's incredible can you do that for me it is incredible PFT by the way sorry I stepped away for a second the Pantone from pregame yeah I would like to see a Pantone check on Bruce Arian's a snapshot of him on the sideline every single game this season to see how his face is getting PFT by the way I think I think the I think we have to upgrade the 49ers as just being legitimately a really good team the Saints might be your don't look now team no not yet because they finish on they finish against the Dolphins Panthers and Falcons like they could run the table they could be and it would be unfortunate for you because they have

the tiebreaker over your Washington football team but the Saints could absolutely they could absolutely and I think they have the tiebreaker over the Eagles as well because they beat the Eagles the Saints could be your don't look now team because they they still have like so many their defense is still so good and with Kamara back I watch out for the Saints I think the Saints are the Saints are more they're putting the pieces together watch out for the pieces together same I think I think the the Niners are still going to be my don't look now team just because they'll kick your ass but they're already I think people are already looking at the Niners like they're in but they know they've only been my don't look now team for like two weeks that's

not enough time not enough people have looked at them okay I'm just saying I'm looking right if the Niners win next week then I think we can move them out of don't look now because too many people have seen them the Saints yeah they're game I agree I agree the Saints are in a position where they could be a don't look now team because they lost five in a row right so everyone looked away from them and they and they have again dolphins which you know the dolphins are playing well but that's in the Superdome Panthers who are a dumpster fire and at the Falcons they could finish 10 and 7 here and they again have the tiebreaker over the Washington football team and the Eagles I don't know who they who'd have the tiebreaker with them in the Vikings but those are the three

teams that are directly ahead of them two out of three of them they have the tiebreaker on I think the Saints are a team that we forgot about number one and then two I think uh yeah you know what I'm just gonna I'm gonna say they could be if they win next week then they're officially my NFC don't look now team yeah because no one wants to play the Saints that's that's what it's gonna end up being no one wants to play the Saints because right now they're my did we forget about them team and they when the Saints are actually like their defense does hit so hard it feels like one of those teams which wore the box until I don't know the box secondary has been ravaged but one of those teams it just flies around and just like is physical all the time and then with Taysum Hill on offense

it like almost they're like a mirror image because all he does is ram his head through a wall and try to throw you know a couple times a game well he's he's got the mallet finger right now which is starting to improve I actually think the mallet finger might be a good thing for Taysum Hill because he always plays better over the course of games because he loves contact so much he loves being in pain that when he starts a game in a little bit of pain with his finger then he's already in like yeah I love football mode whereas before it would take like two quarters of getting his ass kicked where then he'd start to he's like the Nate Diaz thing right yeah so he go he now he's starting every game in a significant amount of pain which is actually good for Taysum

Hill yes yes absolutely all right so the box that's that's a bad loss for the box very bad loss and the the Saints just for whatever reason own Tom Brady in the regular season that's that that will now be four and oh against the box in the regular season that's great for Hank unfortunately all right let's talk dolphins jets Jake Jake deserves credit Jake told us this was going to happen a month and a half ago he was like I've looked at the schedule the dolphins are going to be back at 500 it's crazy to say they've won six in a row I don't know if you guys saw my advanced stat that I found but actually now that Tom Brady is going to lose this game it's only two only two quarterbacks in the NFL have won five straight starts Patrick Mahomes

and Tua and that's all I'll say about Tua today he won he listen he won right he won what's the most important stat in the NFL wins and people have been taking a shit on quarterback wins as a stat for a long time I love it because it's so simple you can't really if you end up winning all of your games then people can't tell you shit they can't be like well I wish you won them prettier no I gotta win I got Tua Tua is looking good I actually think that left-handed quarterbacks on screen passes look cool it's when they start to do those the mid-range throws where I'm like that's a witch just looks it looks wrong yes it looks unnatural to be thrown with your left hand it was also Duke Johnson game Duke's back he's never scored I don't think he's ever scored two touchdowns in a game

until today and he was awesome he was awesome and then we also had an all-time Christian Wilkins doing the worm and then jumping into the stands and like falling through the fans because he forgot he was basically he he was like a big baby that didn't know his own strength he just he's like a huge dog he he didn't read he forgot for a second that he's 300 pounds when he jumped into the lap of some like South South Floridian couple that was an awesome moment and I'm gonna say something nice about the Jets the Jets were fun for a half they were a lot of fun Michael Fleur I don't know why he decided this was the week that you do all the trick plays but they did all the trick plays like at once he basically was saving them all up for this game and all of them pretty much worked

and it was fun to watch the Jets like they were fun I think in the first half Wilson had as many pass attempts as like the rest that seemed to combined because he was throwing they had that one pass the rugby pass downfield crowded a barrier and he put it on a dime so once again was that old saying that I think Gandhi said first they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win that's how I feel right now with rugby taking over the NFL Billy I'm curious to know I saw you tweet out earlier that Zach Wilson has now gone two weeks without throwing interception I know that you know you're trying to spin this into a positive how are you feeling about your guy I mean progress is honestly better than a win you know just for the future and looking forward

that's actually you're right you're right about that in terms of being a bad team having a draft pick progress is way more important than a win I agree with you but wouldn't you also agree that you look like we talked about earlier with Mack Jones you'd rather have him make mistakes so that he can learn from them well I think I think Zach's gotten enough mistakes in the season I think he's learned a lot and now it's starting to pay off so this is his final form this is peak Zach Wilson he learned everything there is no about the NFL in weeks one through six look as long as he doesn't do anything negative like turn the ball over I really don't care this team's gonna be sick next year we have draft picks and it just all starts shaping put it on a poster this team's gonna be

sick next year they're gonna be contender by the way Zach Wilson will do something and he did he did he did do something yeah it's actually touched out Jake you were you you deserve credit you did predict this now Jake let me ask you this because you know I'm a member of Tuanan I already gave the stat only two quarterbacks of one five straight starts at this given moment that's Tua and Patrick Mahomes I don't know if you ever heard of Patrick Mahomes pretty good Tua also really good what would you say and this isn't me saying it but what would you say to the people who say the Dolphins have won six straight and the Ravens nice win but the other teams they beat are the Texans the Jets twice the Panthers and the Giants what would you say I would say if

you're getting the Patriots we go on in Foxborough no no no I'm talking about on their winning streak oh their winning streak right now has been against the Texans the Jets twice the Panthers the Giants and the Ravens yeah they don't have quality wins but this isn't college football they don't need a resume they just need to get in that's what I would say too that's what I was gonna say I just want to play the people in front of you I was I wanted some guidance because you know I again all I'm gonna say about Tua's game today was that he has won five straight and only Patrick Mahomes can say that same thing they don't make the schedule big cat the league does that so you play who you play and actually Jake when you called your shot a while ago in retrospect

you were just you were looking at the schedule being like we have an easy fucking schedule over yeah there was there was also um there's a moment I feel like this happens every week I think it happened last week as well where I just look up from my phone to the television and the ball is just lying on the ground next to Tua but he always picks it up yeah I don't know I don't know what happens there's just always one play usually two or three a game where the ball is just like next to him and he's like a bird returning to his nest and he just calmly picks it up and throws nine yes yeah I mean Tua listen I said my piece on Tua two is one five in a row by the way I feel like you're waking up a lot of people on this podcast big cat to the truth that is to and on

I was wrong about the the saints they lost the eagles people are going to be really mad at me when they get to the point in the podcast five minutes ago when I say that I'm going to get a million tweets and then you're going to get to this point and realize I already corrected myself so there it is I forgot about that game I forgot the eagles kicked the shit out of the saints that was a Trevor Simi and he threw the pick six with like three seconds left in the first half there was another amazing moment at this game where they did they did a scoreboard proposal where a guy was asking his girlfriend to marry him but the guy was he got up from his seat and was like in in line for a hot dog or something so it was just the girl sitting at her seat by herself

reading the proposal with her hand over her mouth like oh my god oh my god I'm getting married and then her boyfriend was like taking a leak somewhere they didn't I've never got an update on that I don't know if it was a happy ending but I hope I kind of hope that she said no and that he has to do it again because why ruin you're ruining the magic of a scoreboard proposal which a lot of people think is you know is cheesy and unromantic I disagree I think it's you're you're professing your love in front of tens of thousands of people are at the very least the dolphin should give him another one bring her back next week and have him do the scoreboard proposal when you know that he's in his seat yes Rob remind me by the

way what the mayor's bet was so Jake you now Billy has to eat salad for a week Billy has to eat salad for a week yeah or no sorry it was me no salad him no meat oh he so he doesn't get to eat meat no remember we said that the other person would order their meal for a week yeah which would pay for it yeah that was what we determined so Jake well how about we make it the first week in January we're all back all right okay so Jake Jake orders the meal and you pay for it Billy yeah okay perfect so salad yes jake if you'd like us to help you with this meal prep we'd be more than happy we'll love we'll love your consideration I want to yeah I've got some input on it yeah tofu and soy so he gets tits and he never recovers and an IPA oh he'd be so mad at

himself just so Billy getting decups yeah all right let's go to the next game Bill's Panthers um this so Zane Gonzalez getting hurt in the pregame made this game enjoyable I think that there should be a new rule in the NFL that once a year every team has to play without a kicker and we don't know when it's going to happen it's just basically Godel hits a button it's like tonight's your no kicker game because it's so much fun watching kickoffs knowing that they can't kick a field goal knowing that they have to go for two like it just adds such a hilarious wrinkle to the game a game that really was never in doubt the bills dominated but I was like glued to it it's like wait what if they get in a spot where they could totally kick a field goal they're not

going to kick it or are they are they gonna have pj walker try to kick it when he did that I don't think he's ever kicked a ball in his life it was I just that should be a rule going forward it was laugh out loud funny seeing the highlight reel of the different players trying to kick the ball in the pregame and most of what we're trying to do onside kicks and some of the onside kicks they actually look pretty good I think that more kickers should be replaced on onside kick by guys that just have absolutely no idea what they're doing yes and just be like you go up there you try to kick off and then the result of that kick will be a fucked up onside kick that's impossible to catch or retrieve for the hand steam but yeah it was it was very funny watching them try to

kick field goals if they were if they were down by two points and it was you know fourth and goal from the 20 yard line I think they would have tried to kick a field goal like a 30 that's yeah that's what I would have loved to see they they should either make a rule that it's like okay when your kickers out your coach has to attempt the field goal that would be very funny so you mat rule waddle out there and try to kick a field goal or just they should all teams should have an emergency kicker yeah like NHL teams have the emergency goalie yeah somebody that's in the stands has a real job that just gets called upon you know once a year you'll see a team bring down a guy that he makes the popcorn up in section 400 bring him down and let him try kicking field goals at

the end of the game uh mat rule has reached the point in the season where he's just like fuck it i'm gonna blame cam newton for everything and to be fair cam newton sucked today he sucked but usually usually coaches won't say it out loud but right after the game mat rule was like yeah that pass play that cam newton had on fourth and one where he threw the ball about three yards to the left yeah that ball should never be thrown it it's painful to watch him throw it's it's gotten to that point he's 0 and 12 in his last 12 panther starts i this like cam newton should just retire because right now it's it's becoming sad to watch and it's it's completely sullying what was you want an mvp so i actually i want to do something a little different i want to just

remember how awesome cam newton was at auburn because in for my like my opinion which doesn't mean anything other than what it means to me cam newton was the greatest college football player of all time in that 2010 auburn season where he had 50 i think he had 51 touchdowns 30 passing 21 rushing uh and he played on an offense that didn't have a single wide receiver or running back play in the nfl the only guys that got drafted on the offense that he was on were two offensive linemen one a seventh rounder who played six games one a fourth rounder who played 22 games so cam newton won the national championship went 14 and 0 had an incredible heisman year 50 touchdowns and he did it with basically no help and he was just that electric and that good and ran the gauntlet in

the sec i just want to remember that cam newton because that cam newton is like i just remember that year and being like this guy is the most incredible football player i've ever seen i don't want to watch cam newton try to throw right now and be like has he ever thrown a football before and also the 2015 season where he went 15 and 1 that was it that was an incredible season right there and that was a that was kind of an equally shitty team in a lot of ways where he was the entire carolina panthers i i think you can just point straight up at the super bowl that year and be like this is the game that broke cam newton because he was never the same after that super bowl after the legendary business decision i think he went 11 and 5 a couple years later so

that's pretty good but um he was not the same quarterback from that point on that is like that's a case of a singular game that absolutely destroyed his confidence in himself and then like when he came out for the uh for the post game uh press conference at that super bowl that's when he started to hate the media too because the media started to that was when the yes pprisco's of the world and god damn i can't believe i dropped pprisco's aim twice in an episode but um the big media guys were like cam newton needs to learn how to lose with class in the super bowl he was just he just knew that he was done at that point i think on a certain level he was like i don't feel like the same person and you know he was a great player for a long time and carolina

fans are never going to have anything but good memories of cam when they think about him you know five years six years from now they're gonna think about how awesome he was for the team got them to a super bowl but um matt rule kind of did a good job by bringing cam newton in i thought because it's a good move for his job security yeah because if cam newton sucks panthers fans aren't going to be like yo fuck you matt rule why did you bring in cam newton he stinks panthers fans are going to think cam newton's back in town all right the second half of the season's going to be pretty fun because we get to watch cam come back home for the end of his career yeah so matt rule's kind of getting he's skating by despite the fact that he hasn't been a very good coach yeah he's like

he's just a nicer uh more well-mannered urban mire at this point in terms of like the the team looks bad and they look like they can't like they're making mistakes and doing things you're like what's going on here they're not coached very well i i just don't i i just hate when you watch a player who was like who meant something to you as a sports fan and watching it be this bad towards the end because you know there's like i don't know pick a 20 a 20 year old sports fan right now probably doesn't really have many memories of cam newton and auburn you know what i mean like nine years old then that so they don't remember how electric he was yeah billy's yeah right exactly billy you don't remember what he did that season i also forgot to throw in the fact that his coach

was gene chiswick who got fired two years later and has never gotten a head coaching job since he won a national title he never got another head coaching job cam newton did all of this his defense was pretty good they had what i think nick fairly and and some good guys on defense but he played on an offense with like think about mac jones last year think about two of when he won like that those offenses were think about joe burrow littered with pros like pros up and down the fucking roster cam newton played with two guys on an offensive line who played a total of 28 games in the nfl and he went 14 you know in the sec and had 51 touchdowns and was a fucking monster so i want to remember that cam newton i think that gene chiswick was such a bad coach

that he's getting paid 17 million dollars to not coach i think that's his like his final total because he got paid to stop coaching at iowa state then he got stopped paid to coaching at auburn after that i think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of like 10 to 17 million dollars he also had a nice tweet the other day that was talking about how like how players are getting boned over by the nil stuff because they're getting money that they don't earn and it's it's literally gene chiswick and he ended the tweet with hashtag words of chisdom oh that's nice that that actually that hits when you when you guys i love he's an expert he's an expert when it comes to that stuff so i believe him i love any coach that complains about nil because they're

essentially or the transfer portal because they're essentially being like i'm lazy and i don't want to have to work harder like you know how to adapt yeah you know who doesn't complain who has not complained about the nil or transfer portal nick sabin because he just fucking keeps rolling and the first thing he did with the nil was remember he had that report like he basically came out and did a press conference he's like yeah our quarterbacks gonna make one million dollars next year come to albama instead of dabbo being like the transfer portals bullshit i don't i don't want to use it it's a good lesson in life you can either complain about stuff when they change it or you can be like fuck it i'm gonna abuse the new rules yeah right right so any coach that complains about

i just laugh because they're essentially saying i have to work harder for my paycheck now and kids can leave if i if i treat him like shit oh that sucks i did notice i did notice one thing that cam did today though in the first half he went horns down okay i don't know i think he's he's still thinking about that awesome season that he had back at auburn yeah and he's going he's going horns down still to this day i mean it it's tough to watch came in the only other thing i had with the bills so uh gabriel davis was really good i he was playing for manual sanders so that's a nice option for the bills josh allen's definitely he's hurt like his foot is hurt because you could tell and maybe they just knew that they were going to beat the panthers no matter what but he wasn't

running the ball like he usually does so i'm a little nervous about josh allen like it is he gonna be full josh allen is he gonna be able to you know design runs because that's basically their rushing attack and now hank it's bill's patriots next week for like everything everything i don't know how the tiebreakers work because i think the bills have enough conference losses that they patriots even if they lost they would still be okay but it is it's a very very important game yeah because if the bills win they can basically say the first game didn't really count because of the weather and stuff uh and then yeah the patriots needed needed bad yeah yeah and and if the bills win then they can be like oh look at

hanks he was celebrating that super bowl that they had in buffalo a couple weeks ago you know they can yeah they can flip it on either way that you rubbed it in their face like we came to your town the bully's back they can be like look at you guys you're celebrating a meaningless win because the the real bully's back in town when they're at the top of the division as a sports fan though like there's nothing better than what the bills have an opportunity to do here because if you're a bills fan you were at like the bottom after you lost the patriots and lost the box and tried to come back in that game and now because sports are the best you sunday have like it's it's on again you know what i mean like you're if the bills win this game it's like a total reset

to everything like oh they're back to being a true contender in the afc and everything's back on whose line do you think it is anyway oh let's do it um i'm gonna say patriots by two and a half i'll say no i'm changing wait whoa whoa patriots minus four uh patriots three flat three right now patriots minus one and a half whoa okay that seems like a little bit of an overreaction what's the weather like that's the big question doesn't matter that feels like a little bit of an overreaction not new england you can't you can't you can't you know you can't figure out the forecast now uh nine nothing that's saints nine bucks now i really want to know what the odds were for no touchdown scored i mean that's a psycho you tweeted a big cat i was looking at

your mentions there's about 75 000 different numbers getting thrown around uh oh someone actually tweeted those it was five thousand five thousand yeah can we run a sports book we could probably figure that out someone bet 20 bucks to win a thousand that's that's gotta be the most miserable bet you can make though that's a game that you don't watch and watch 60 minutes and hope for no touchdowns that's a game that's a bet that you make if you're at the airport and you're getting on a spirit airlines flight to somewhere else and you know you're not going to have wi-fi in the air uh yeah people are saying everything there's so many different responses all right oh i had a bad i had a bad thought over the weekend big cat and this is definitely what's

going to happen so um we know hank is taking a vacation which is his right because it's the holidays and we encourage our employees here at barcel take vacations all the time he's going to go to the caribbean travel is going to get shut down hank is going to be stuck in a tropical paradise for like a week two weeks three weeks on the beach while we're stuck here in new york being miserable in the worst weather ever as the patriots win a super bowl and he's going to be on the beach laughing in our faces the whole time i haven't been able to sleep thinking about it cam just said to me said it was 75 to one so maybe even better that guy got bad odds who bet it um i wanted to can we do can we do a quick guest can we do a quick guest uh

recap real quick of this game so people know that we talked about it we got to do it i don't even know he says scored no points tonight got our ass kicked oh bottom line the bucks have a very good offensive line they got their lunch eaten today by the saint's defense he's smiling by the way tough we couldn't throw the ball couldn't run the ball ron jones did an okay job the second half injuries left and right chris godwin looks like an mcl maybe mike evans hamstring Leonard fornette hamstring god i hate his fucking fake john gruden actually puts on david foot everybody's going out it's an infirmary over here this game can't end soon enough on to next week just a horrendous showing i hope we never see saints again until next year credit to them

they played a good game but good lord oh oh no oh my god oh no don't just hate that when he's like chris godwin oh that good lord at the end really like if i if i were about to eat a meal i it would have been ruined i would have been like no thank you i don't want that oh all right before we get to our next game pfd you got a quick word from one of our sponsors yeah i want to talk to you about our great friends over at cross country mortgage we love cross country mortgage they are a people first group of people football players make football plays but they also make plays off the field like the experts over at cross country mortgage they might not be doling out concussions or breaking bones but they're dedicated to doing whatever it takes to get you into the home of

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giants game in that sunny cold environment i've met life just don't tell us it's medium just be like it's free pepsi day the fact that you're throwing medium in there it's just it's reminding me that you only care about me a medium amount yeah oh brutal like that how no one was like hey this is probably a bad idea we're a really bad team we've lost i think the giants have lost the most games of any franchise in like the last five years maybe let's not do free medium just just retire elie's jersey again have elie come out at every halftime being like there's probably at least five to ten thousand different fans at every game you know what i mean like the non-season ticket holders just keep trotting elie out maybe every now and then like david deal will show up i don't

know michael stray hand can do it on the off days just do that free medium pepsi is such a slap in everyone's face i would have just dumped it out i would have gotten it dumped it out i you know what i would i would have gone up to the concession stand they would have handed me my pepsi and i would have just given him seven dollars no like here take it yeah i don't want your i'm not going to let you have an upper hand on me the the craziest part is the the free medium pepsi obviously made a lot of uh headlines like leading up to the game but the most offensive thing the giants did was have mike glennon start like that was he's and i i personally am hurt every time i watch mike glennon play football because there was a moment in time where i thought he was going to

be the answer for the chicago bears i remember it's crazy absolutely crazy to think that mike glennon was a starting quarterback like four years ago he not just not just a starting quarterback a quarterback that was a coveted free agent that got a shitload of money guaranteed to come in and be the starter and now you watch him tonight you know i don't think i don't think he's ever played football he's like a volleyball player that is learning how to play football on the fly i think i've said this before but i i so vividly remember i was driving i flew into memphis and i was driving to arkansas for the arkansas derby and i was listening to the cubs on the radio and mike glennon was in the booth because he was singing the stretch and the whole time i was like

we got our guy we got our guy like this is mike glennon he's going to be the guy and god damn it was that the dumbest thought i've ever had my entire life i think we should also add mike glennon to the nice guy list nice guy he's i think he's a stooley so very nice guy he's a very nice guy but man um he he might not want to be a quarterback anymore mike glennon is very good in a global sense at playing football if you took a random sample of everyone on earth i think he's probably better than 90 of people at playing more he's he's in the point oh one percent of people uh who have thrown a football in the history of earth think about that think about that mike glennon that's how good he is he's a he's a very nice guy and on a global sense he's a great

he's an elite quarterback like tier quarterback no no on a global sense pft he's like a one in a hundred million quarterback right i was joking when i said 90 but yes if we're talking about the actual real stats i think he's no it's it's even bigger than one in a hundred million i think he's like one in like six point seven billion that's how good think about that well two uh two is one of them yeah so six point seven billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred nine nine thousand nine hundred ninety eight mm-hmm yeah so he's he's very very good at quarterback but i i don't i felt bad for him today a little bit because he i don't think he wants to be on he's not even the best quarterback with a freakishly big neck

in the nfl right now you know what yeah no you're right because obviously davis mills hold on i'm gonna look up i'm gonna do something that will make us be very nice to mike lennon let's see mike glennon career earnings let's go mike glennon 31 million dollars there you go mike good that's pretty fun he's a shadow man too so that's even rarer actually than how good he is at being a quarterback also only probably like 200 shadow men in the history of the world also uh over half of that paid by the bears thank you big cat right that's that actually should be like if we had a power point why you should fire ryan pace ryan pace is responsible for over half of mike glennon's career i mean ryan ryan pace guaranteeing that much money to mike glennon

that's such a sad and then immediately and then immediately fucking him over with the draft pick that that ended mike glennon's career right there oh my god really no like that's that should just be tweeted like ryan pace is responsible for over half of mike glennon's career earnings and it was as a backup and it well it was a starter first no he was never the start of no no well he started the first few games that season but also he was the starter for like a month before the draft because he signed in march and then we got we said we drafted bitch it's absolutely absurd what they did with mike glennon but again good for him i'm not knocking mike glennon mike glennon is also maximized the best of his abilities more than anybody it's like him and durell revas

have squeezed every penny out of every ounce of talent that they have this is actually just like incredible look at four seasons for the bucks four million dollars one season for the cardinals five million dollars one season for the raiders one point eight one season for the jaguars one point two one season for the giants one point three two seasons for the bears eighteen point five i'm trying to remember what happened to even get him to the bears was it straight from the bucks no he was a free agent we saw yeah but yeah we're just like was that after he was like immediately after he was a buck or did he go somewhere else no it's right after he was a buck and we're like yeah mike glennon's the future like this guy's fucking good because for a second i was like maybe

there was a season where he went somewhere maybe to the raiders and got in halfway through and played two awesome games but no it's just his it's just the buck experience oh man i'm gonna tweet that tomorrow morning ryan pay should be fired simply for the fact that he he is responsible for over half of mike glennon's career earnings all right this game um the so the cowboys i threw out there that the cowboys are a legitimate super bowl contender last week a lot of people were like no way that's crazy i still think it they're often scares me because their offense doesn't look great like for some reason whenever they get in the red zone it like kind of falls apart dak looks a little off but their defenses lights out and i know as the giants but like we talked

about with the cardinals earlier in the in in the show like good teams contending teams beat the fuck out of bad teams that's just what they do so the cowboys get credit for beating the fuck out of the giants and demarcus laurence being fully healthy and all their defensive weapons like they're i think they're they are definitely up there for teams like if you want to take out the cardinals now it's packers box who knows how many injuries they're going to come away with this game from and cowboys in my mind maybe want to throw in the rams i don't know so this game had this one moment where uh mike mccarthy against a bad team doesn't really matter but against any of those other teams that you mentioned it's like oh yeah there's still the big mike mccarthy hurdle that you have

to get over where his brain just turns off yeah about 30 seconds every game there's one you never know when it's going to come he goes into a fugue state and just completely loses consciousness and at the end of the half when they had a chance to go take a shot the end zone with the time out mike mccarthy just was like he was just drooling on himself on the sideline not knowing what to do and it didn't matter in this game because again they're playing the giants but if you're playing against a good team those moments actually matter right that's a good counterpoint that's a good counterpoint mike mccarthy and i do i do think that the cowboys i do think that the cowboys have enough talent and they are a good enough team to win a super bowl this year i just think that

mike mccarthy is liable to go rogue at any moment well i mean wouldn't be the perfect mike mccarthy goes to green bay like yeah goes up to green bay and and and he and erin rogers have a stare down and they maybe i they would probably pretend to like like each other for a second um no that'll be amazing though because if the if the cowboys beat the packers in green bay then once and for all we get to say it was mike mccarthy that was so good in green bay not erin rogers that's my birthday present system quarterback erin rogers anybody could have won mike mccarthy couldn't taken jordan love and won four super bowls that's that's that's all i want for my birthday that's all i want god give me that uh but yeah i i think the cowboys uh they're also 11 and three against the

spread so they definitely deserve credit there as well that's pretty crazy 11 and three against the spread it's pretty hard to do do we want to talk real quick about sake one is a sick catch that he had today you want to talk about a sick catch sick catch sick catch sick catch that's that should be all that we say about sake one bark awesome catch today i just and i know giants fans would be like well they're offensive line socks and davante booker rushed for 74 yards today sake one barkley hasn't rushed for more than 70 yards in a game this year how many sick catches did booker after that that's true good point yeah booker was eight for 74 and uh sake one was 15 for 50 same offensive line i don't know i just think it's it's just i i don't want like obviously

there's he's never done anything wrong to me but sake one barkley like there's never been a player who's had more and if he was on a different team maybe i'll have like a Leonard for net second chapter to his career where he's on a better team but the hype of sake one barkley and people talking about him like he was legitimately like dion san or uh barry sanders and what has actually been produced on the field is insane there are a couple of things at play there one is that he was drafted so high which isn't his fault no not his fault that he was drafted that highly as a running back but that first season that he had where he was awesome he was the only thing that was good about the giants the only thing so fans are going to remember that and think back to that year and

be like this guy was the only thing that i was looking forward to watching for season so i owe him the benefit of the doubt to keep rooting for him over the years uh and then also just thinking back he was drafted so highly that i want him to succeed so as a fan there are two reasons i think why you will you will still defend sake one barkley and he's played through a lot of injuries too yeah he's gotten hurt and and and he's sacrificed his body a little bit so they're still gonna be they're gonna be banging the drum for him he i think that the best hope for him is exactly what he said he goes somewhere else on a team that maybe has a few more options around him yeah yeah because i think is this his fifth is his fifth year next year so they got to figure out what to

do yeah like pick up his option yeah i hope sake one barkley gets a second career somewhere that uh he can flourish because right now i don't know when divante booker is is like more explosive than you that's cause for concern um all right next game texans jaguars actually a really fun game yep we had a monsoon we had a 98 yard kick return that was incredible and we also had a touchdown where a fan was in the end zone he ran on the field and he was standing in the end zone while the touchdown was being scored because jacksonville uh and davis mills i think i'm ready to say davis mills is your future for at least next year houston i i would actually like to apologize to davis mills because i i was a charter member of mills mafia on this podcast and then i kind of

i soured on him for a while i had a bad taste in my mouth from davis mills i turned my back on you i'm sorry for that i now believe in davis mills to be at least i think davis mills could be a very average backup quarterback in the nfl for a very long time well here's here's the craziest part about davis mills like this draft is not quarterback heavy coming up if davis mills had stayed for another year at stanford he might have been drafted by the texans with like the first or second pick so that's great values great you got another year of experience because he would have been like the guy that everyone talked up because he was such a he was a highly touted recruit go i think it was the number the the best number one quarterback coming out of high school yeah

number one quarterback coming out of high school i bet you is the highest recruit that the stanford's ever landed and that's including andrew luck and so he would have gotten all the hype i i don't think he's that bad which is a nice thing to say about a guy who's playing on a bad team he's not that bad so in a way it's like the the texans are gonna have two number one picks next year yeah exactly and i like kevin white three this was um for the jaguars big i told you so a moment for urban mire look how look how bad all those other coaches were that urban that got urban fired all the losers you had all the losers leading your team and look what happened jacks look i i think that this was this is vindication for a guy urban yeah yes it is uh did you see his

quote by the way urban mire i apologize to jacksonville um yeah and then in classic urban mire fashion because the guy cannot just apologize he's the worst apology guy ever because then he then has to do a reapology later um he said that uh i think college has changed quite a bit too just society has changed you think how hard you pushed i believe there's greatness in everybody and it's the coach's job to find the greatness however you do that positive encouragement pushing them to be greater making them work harder identifying flaws and trying to fix them i think everything is so fragile right now and that includes coaching staffs when i go into coaching coaches weren't making this kind of money they didn't have agents everything is so fragile

where it used to be team team team i remember talking about it in a staff meeting three days ago i got into this profession because i had the greatest high school coach and it was all about team all about the huddle so it's not urban mire's fault it's that our society is too fragile too many betas too many losers a man like urban is a dying breed he's got paleo mentality yeah urban urban mire would have crushed it as a caveman in today's nfl you have to be a big beta to succeed that's why that's why dan cambell didn't beat the cardinals today right big cat yes in urban mire's brain here here are the problems that the jaguars have one they have losers two certain coaches are making money not urban mire when he talks about coaches and agents and no loyalty

and going to wherever the highest paying job is at the best position for them again urban mire's talking about everybody else not himself correct urban mire would never go to a job just because the money and leave behind a place that he had started to lay roots just because someone else was paying him more so coaches making money who are not urban mire is the problem i just love the fact that he he can't just say i sucked and i fucked up and it wasn't for me no society is fragile and it's the coaches that are fragile that i picked but the coaches are too fragile he basically just called all of his coaching staff pussies on his way out overpaid pussies overpaid pussies um but yeah this game was fun we could credit to to the jaguars and the texans

for putting on a fun game when no one expected it uh hank just sent us like maybe the most depressing tweet ever uh a total of 40 touchdowns were scored across the nfl today the fewest on a sunday with at least 10 games since november 27th 1994 that sucks damn 40 touchdowns 40 total touchdowns it's garbage that's yeah and my my under didn't hit that isn't that the worst when every game goes under and then you pick the one wrong one yeah yeah that was bad very hand up my mistake um they also said that trevor lorence watched he wants input on the next coach so he's and he's getting input shod con says that they're gonna they're gonna lean on trevor lorence to try to figure out who he wants to coach him so dabbo oh dabbo that would be so

dabbo doesn't like the transfer portal that would be so funny if the jaguars like realized their mistake by by hiring a highly touted college coach that's had a proven track record of success and they're like you know what you know who we we should get to replace this complete burnout that we had this flame out of a head coach let's get another college coach yes uh i also think that so the jaguars are not paying urban uh and i don't know if urban's even fighting it because he's probably like yeah you know what i i couldn't win this in oh he's gonna fight you think you can win this in a court of law this is this is his new head coaching thing that he's doing right now he's gonna channel all his energy into fighting this in court because he wouldn't

comment on any ongoing situation when nfl network was sitting down with him so it was actually a great plan by shod con to not fire him for all the stuff that he could have fired him for and just wait for urban mayer to slip up for his fingers to go into another butthole and then be able to fire him for cause yeah so when lambo came out and was like yeah he kicked me i'm pretty sure that physically assaulting one of your players counts as for cause so now you have enough evidence to just be like okay we're done here the Ohio State way what he hates when he choked a Clemson player in uh in the pool game i think he punched him in the face yeah he might punch him in the face i'm thinking of bobby night choking players um all right next game

we have three left afternoon games 49ers falcons uh i'm officially saying that the 49ers might be my favorite team to watch play football they are so much fucking fun to watch play football not only like their defense is now starting to really like hum with bosa and everyone they got on that that ardent key that that personal foul was such bullshit such bullshit but then on the offensive side of the ball george kittles a monster debo samuel might be the most electric player in the nfl he's 10th uh for running backs touchdowns this year he's a wide receiver brandon aiuka is awesome and jimmy g is actually playing good football say something nice about jimmy g he is now seven and oh in games where he doesn't throw an interception and pay no mind to the fact that it's

unreal that there are only seven games in which jimmy g has never thrown an interception but in those games he's won all of them he's won all of them in the last six games though for real jimmy g is actually playing like really good he in the last six games he's five and one seventy percent 10 touchdowns three interceptions and he's got an average of 113 rating like he's playing good football and the 49ers are really fun to watch they there's something about the 49ers that debo samuel will run for a touchdown uh they just block so well i just love kyle shanhan i'm back in love with the guy i fell out of love we had a rough patch where we took some time off in the middle of the season uh because i i don't know what they were doing i think it was maybe just because george

kiddo was hurt but i'm back in love i love watching the 49ers play football they are a legitimate like don't fuck with them in the playoffs team i i think he just needs to get his groove back sometimes anytime he's in a slump he needs to have sean mcvay on the schedule so he can just like fuck him up real good yeah remind himself hey you're kao shanhan you're a boss you know like get back in get back into kindle roy moment where you're just staring in the mirror just like amping yourself up like at your own birthday party that's when kao shanhan is coaching with confidence then yeah the the running game is a lot of fun to watch you got the wide receivers that are laying people out out there you've got actually this game had two of the best

running backs in the nfl in debo samuel and quarter ale paterson playing yes yes and it's i i think it's and it goes back to obviously his dad mike shanhan if you ever watched the the broncos in the 90s they were so much fun with their running game but it's something about the way they block and then if they get like debo samuel it looks like he's shot out of a cannon because he has such a clear lane and he puts his foot in the ground and he just fucking boom and it's i'm sounding like john madden right now but it makes me feel a certain way when i watch the 49ers really humming it's it's awesome to watch yeah no it is because it's the way that the offensive line sets up in the zone blocking scheme that they have set up where they kind of the offensive lineman

they're also getting shot out of a cannon towards the line of scrimmage so they're getting downhill and running fast and if i was an offensive lineman that would be the coolest system ever to play in where you just kind of you drift off to the side a little bit and then you just get to run somebody's face over and then you see the you see the running back going past them and they're shot out of cannon because they're running so much faster than the offensive lineman are it is a very it's almost like a slingshot type play yes and and i always just like to like go back and look at uh mike shanahan like those years when he just had like orland is gary and mike anderson doing the mile high salute like guys that were not ruben drones yeah they weren't like incredible players but

they just were for for that offense and it's just i don't know tatum bell i like tatum yeah tatum bell is good he was really good did they have a quintin did they have a quintin at some point um they had ruben drones quintin griffin yeah they had yeah all these guys that weren't anything special and he just makes them special and you see it i mean the 49ers are doing the same thing obviously debo Samuel is special um the falcons they are officially i think we alluded to it last week they are officially i'm i'm going to say right now at lana falcons fans raise your banner you are the best worst team in the nfl officially i look just a fact okay i look through the stats against teams that are six and seven are better so that includes obviously the eagles and the

washington football team because those teams are i would say are good uh so against teams that are six and seven are better they're two and seven and six out of seven of those losses were by double digits and then teams that are bad just objectively bad teams they're four and one they just beat all the really bad teams and when they play any team that's at 500 or above 500 or hovering around 500 they get the shit kicked out so there's a stat out there called dvoa and i don't know what it is except a lot of real smart football nerds use it and i remember what's his name richard sherman used to always brag about the seahawks finishing first place in defensive dvoa which is like if football were played on a spreadsheet that would be the team that wins the super bowl

the falcons are the worst team in the nfl on dvoa yeah the entire the entire league the entire they are the worst team but they can still make the playoffs which is honestly i think that's a testament to arthur smith because it means that it means they're expending minimal energy on games that don't matter and maximum energy on all the others yeah they they have if you just go even non-nerd shit just point differential they're the fourth worst team in the nfl yeah they're the lions have better point differential in them it goes falcons texans jaguars jets those are the worst four teams point differential they just get shit pumped by good teams and then when they play a bad team they're more than competent enough to beat them they are officially the best worst team it would

be so fucking funny if they made the playoffs so it would be unquestionably the worst team i don't think they can they still can but wait are they playing bad teams or good teams what are they playing bad teams or good teams i think they still have to play some good teams so because that matters yeah i don't i don't think they can i i think it's gonna be pretty tough for them to make the playoffs uh they play i know they played the bucks one or they've already played the bucks twice they play the lions which actually the lions are better than the falcons um they play at the bills and versus saints they're not going to make the playoffs yeah probably not but they they exceeded expectations they absolutely did that hey do you want to do your fourth down rant now or you want

to wait for the ravens i'll serve the ravens okay all right i figured that one hurt you more uh all right but i'm just excited to watch 49ers i like watching the 49ers they make they make me happy to be a football fan they play on thursday night i'm excited to watch that that's it that's all i got about the 49ers we'll talk about four downs later but arthur smith went for some real weird four downs today and he just really really weird yeah really bizarre fourth down play calls i like it though like fuck it arthur arthur smith's like i don't want to i don't want to send a kicker out there like we're probably not going to make the playoffs anyways let's just go for it put a pin in it jake put a pin in this put a reminder in this uh arthur

smith i think we told the story but arthur smith pft and i have texted with him because will compton basically put us on blast after we made fun of his double chin so seems like a very nice guy we will have him on the show if i end up having to drive to la because i lose out and billy beats me by a half a point or a point i never want to speak to arthur smith and i hope something bad happens to him because this over should have if you lose only if you get lost only if i lose to billy by by a point or a half a point this over should have hit he kept on calling fourth and goal and you just call crazy plays it was crazy so over should have hit i like you arthur smith but it but i will have to put you in my graveyard if my proverbial graveyard not actual

graveyard if things go south here and i lose out to billy by one game okay that's fair right like you gotta hold a grudge you can hold a grudge if you want i'll i'll interview him i'll interview him i'll just be like fuck you dude the whole time because it well maybe you know what if i lose out to billy by one let's do the interview and i'll do it from the road we'll do a zoom so i can have my real fire in me you know yeah windows down right and if if i don't lose out to billy i like arthur smith and i actually think he's doing a great job this year because the falcons are not good and he's got them somehow to win six games so he's he's actually a very good coach so we've already established the link between nick siriani and matt ryan because

they're both included on that one dude's losers of the week list right yep shitsburg stealers but watching him play like do you actually see a team that needs a starting quarterback being like i think i'll go with with matt ryan looks like he's right yeah if no if they had a good offensive line yes honestly because they have no weapons and they have no offensive line i don't i i would not do it i would do it if i if i had those two pieces um all right before we get to our last two games pft one last uh ad from our sponsors yeah the people at true bill i actually used true bill a couple weeks ago um they are a service that it logs into your personal finances and it tells you where you're spending money where you can push where you can pull how much money

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that have injuries that aren't on your team and you think like oh my god i hope he's okay we did get drew lock swag lock throwing a touchdown then with a hilarious fumble in the red zone where the ball was just taken from him like he was a little child um but that this game was not great and it was just basically like the bangles did just enough and joe bro did just enough on a day when their offense wasn't very good but their defense played well yeah drew lock and teddy bridgewater in the same team it's crazy whenever they play in the same game as each other because you won't find a team that has two quarterbacks that are less alike in playing style than teddy bridgewater and drew lock just the way that like teddy is a very level headed guy yep and then drew

lock gets in he's like fuck it we're going full sin boys cranked it crank the easy because drew locks back in the game i get crossfaded watching them play in the same game i'm like i got my upper i got my downer what the fuck is going on right now drew lock when he got the ball taken away he did have a a sick um chase down he actually chased him down like dk metcalf got in front of him the guy fumbled it now they brought that back because apparently the defense lineman was down by contact when he first forced that fumble on drew lock i think that if that so in a situation like that where you fumble on like the 20 they pick it up return it like 40 yards and then if they fumble it before the end of the play and you recover it i think the original down and distance should still

be con i think it should be like third and 55 yeah i don't think that you should get a new set of downs at that point agreed absolutely yeah you should yeah absolutely because it'd be funny down and distance and it'd just be like you don't you shouldn't get a credit for it it's like that um it's like the block punt against the cowboys yeah the the cowboys yeah because if if you're billy football you would be like oh that bangles fumble recovery and return was as good as a pun yes because just backed him up down the field um this game i'm still stuck on the browns from that or from the on the broncos from that browns thursday night game yeah i still think that the broncos suck but i don't they don't actually suck their defense is good their defense is good

and they're kind of boring to watch and javarte williams is awesome yeah but they don't suck but i'm still in that mode where i'm watching that that first half of that game against case keenam i'm like this team is this team has two wins yeah the the broncos are they're pretty good so credit to joe burrow for beating a good defense he didn't have his best game today but he had the best incompletion of the season that i've seen so far yes he's won out a couple tackles an airmailed one over the sideline where it looked like he was going to get sacked for i don't know like minus 11 yards so best incompletion of the season award goes to joe burrow oh wait who had won we'll have to we'll have to review the tape on that i think there's a really good incompletion it was a very

good incompletion i know what play you're talking about i feel like we had one other but we'll we'll give out the rewards at the end of the season we should just do that just all of our awards are just terrible like plays that no one remembers mm-hmm um the bangles play the ravens for supremacy in the afc north uh next sunday it's gonna be awesome one o'clock same as the bills and patriots like next sunday slate is sick should we play guess whose lines in any way bangle ravens at bangles bangles by three i'll go bangles two and a half just so i'm not the same but i think three is probably right it is uh bangles minus two and a half okay oh there it is so i i mean we could segue this into the ravens packers game tyler huntley i like tyler huntley yeah he's fun he's

ready for a crazy stat blow your mind first ravens quarterback to throw for two touchdown passes and run for two touchdown passes the first ravens quarterback yep kyle bowler never never did that bowler never did that joe flacco never did that trendilford ever did that i love tyler huntley i do i i love watching play i think that like i made the joke are the ravens better without lamar jackson which no i don't think that they are but they're not that much worse no that wasn't a fluke that the ravens were in that game he was balling out and and their defense made a couple stops at the end of the game like where they got that punt but that i like tyler huntley he should as we always say go get injured right now and and

and have someone pay you a lot of money before you get exposed but i we've watched him two starts and a relief appearance in cleveland he's two and always a starter and he almost brought the ravens back to win that game in cleveland last week yeah i think he's a lot of fun to why he should just keep reminding people i didn't go to ucla i went to utah i'm not huntley yes so a lot of people making that mistake and also ret huntley yeah i may uh i think i'm a toe truther big cat okay i think i'm a toe true i don't think that erin rogers actually has a toe injury i think that he did have a toe injury wait wait are you saying erin rogers would lie about something i would never say that no and i don't think erin has done anything to to indicate that he would but

i do think that erin rogers was under a lot of fire from a lot of people from the whole immunized versus vaccinated thing and he was like what's going to get all the freaks out there to stop complaining about my vaccination status okay you know what i'll do i'll put out a gross foot pick and then everybody will talk about that picture rex ryan's gonna weigh in on it make a little joke about himself and then i'll uh i'll say that i re-injured it and i'll threaten to get surgery and go away for the year but now guess what the whole story is about how tough i'm being playing on my fake broken toe gutting out the end of the season no one's talking about my vaccination status anymore yeah because you can't like if he's having long-term covid effects he basically

neutralizes anyone making fun of him i i love this theory and i think he should be back in prison in jail because you know what he's doing liars prison well you know what it is is people who do have long-term covid effect he's basically minimizing it he's how are we to believe those people when when erin rodgers is lying like this but it but he's not saying that the toe is a long term covid effect well that's probably he's implying no no no i think he actually said that it wasn't because there was that speculation the wall street journal remember whenever it was like oh yeah he's got he's got covid toe yes which i i don't know if that's actually a thing or it is yes is it yes okay but i think he said that it wasn't it was just an unrelated broken toe i just i don't think

that his toe is fucked up i don't think that he's like debating whether or not to have surgery on it i don't think that it's that bad of an issue i think he's okay i think he's healthy and he's just saying that he's got a fucked up foot okay i this game makes made me nervous in the fact that erin rodgers is playing like incredible he's having another year where he probably won mvp especially with brady like not scoring a touchdown tonight that probably decided actually the mvp race tonight is crazy it sounds because brady like and if he loses these guys for a next couple weeks he's not gonna be able to put up the numbers so rodgers gonna win another mvp but i did see and uh packers fans i don't know if you'll you'll probably have some advanced stat that will tell

me i'm wrong and you know what you probably go to the super bowl probably win a super bowl that's a little crack in that defense that everyone's talking about how that stat being thrown out there the packers have like a top five defense top five offense i didn't their defense wasn't that great today right it was all right this is me this is this is the stage i'm in i i would like to see some tweets from honest packers fans tomorrow you think you you see what i'm seeing you see what i'm seeing and their special teams is garbage but you see what i'm seeing no the special teams is really bad i think the defense is good though but there's their defense align it's good but it's wreck people it's good but tyler huntley was i mean he had he kind of did

whatever he wanted yeah that's because tyler huntley is a very good player okay i'm just saying this is i like listen i'm starting to pop up in my head again like i'm watching these packers games and i'm saying to myself i don't know jim i mean you get you get crushes on quarterbacks right i'm not talking about quarterbacks that are on your team quarterbacks that you see elsewhere in the league and you're like that person's not locked up i don't see a ring on that finger you know they're not a franchise quarterback they could be had at some point tyler huntley is kind of that guy where it's like i i think i want that guy yeah he i mean he was awesome he played great i agree also i think um i think harbaugh is still scarred like permanently scarred from

justin tuckers missed extra point against the saints remember that one back in like 2017 okay the first missed extra point that justin tucker ever had we were watching it together i think i mushed it i think i was like oh it's a tie game now that's right laco just came back to the saints yes i think that's the reason more so like more than analytics or his private conversations that he has with lamar where lamar is like go for it all the time i think that's the reason why he goes for two at the end of games like that instead of just kicking a tying extra point yeah well i want to hear from hank i'm gonna do something real quick hank while you you you have the floor on your anger about fourth fourth downs i'm gonna text a good friend erin nagler who we should have on again uh and

i'm gonna text him just simply that's not a super bowl defense and you know it and see what he says because he's very truthful about the packers but go ahead hank you're mad i said this in the group text earlier that i'm done with for fourth downs i was thinking about it more too because i think it's a combination of the fact that the patriots have gone to the season like with the very conservative play calling offense there's been i don't know like it seems like a hundred like fourth and one fourth and two around the 50 yard line that they're just not going for they punt it it's frustrating and then on the flip side every other single coach just goes for every single fourth and like three from the first quarter second quarter third quarter fourth quarter i had the ravens today

i had the falcons today so i was watching both of them simultaneously just going crazy watch them just give up points give up points give up points not get the fourth down conversions and then lose the game by one when if they just keep field goals they probably easily could win that game math right it ends up three points in the first quarter is usually equal to like seven points at the end of the game and going for it i don't i don't agree with going for it uh going for two at the end of the game they had all the momentum they had the best kicker in the league twice now yeah with the ravens people saying it was the right decision i disagree wholeheartedly because and i said this i'm not a math guy i'm not aniline sky i'm not a stats guy i

know there's always like percentages and all that shit but it's 50 50 for a two-point conversion right about pretty much i think it's a little bit higher yeah depending on how good your offense it's it's lower for the ravens this year though i think you're two for seven it's 50 50 if you win the coin flip so the argument like you don't want to give erin roger the ball not get a chance it's 50 50 if you win the coin flip and then if you don't win the coin flip you might stop them and you might get the ball back and win it seems like a much higher percentage chance to win the game if you just kick the extra point and you have the best kicker in the league i like this because it's coming from Hank not from a place of objectional objective objective objective

objectivity it's coming from a place of a gambler scorned which i think it unlocks but it's i agree with it in a way i don't think you have ever gotten to this point where you're actually seeing the flaws and analytics clear if it wasn't from a place of anger but i think that you're pointing out some actual blind spots that it has and brandon staley it's just like in general i feel big cats talked about it i mean you guys talked about it last week but i'm full wholeheartedly on the just just get points when you can get points team from now on unless you're down 14 or it's a fourth quarter what if you're down nine so hey i agree how much time's left down nine four minutes left what's the situation fourth and what no i'm saying you score a touchdown now i'm talking about

going for two you score a touchdown to get down nine with four minutes left do you kick a field goal now you go for two i i think that's field one that's an actual point i agree with you because of jesson tucker that was my point a few weeks ago when they were playing the stealers like jesson tucker is a weapon if you can get one stop in in overtime you you're probably gonna win because of how good he is so i also the only thing that was weird i mean i guess with if you make the argument like backup quarterback you come back and harbaugh unlike cliff kingsbury it has he he's consistent he knows what he's going to go for two everyone knew he's going to go for two like that was very obvious i i thought there was too much time on the clock if you get the two

point conversion then the packers have 40 seconds in a timeout and erin rogers like whereas if you kick the extra point they probably just play for you know what i mean they probably try a first down pass if it doesn't work they play for overtime uh no i don't i think they would still go for it i think erin rogers is going to go out there and try to win the game no matter what i don't know i there's there's a lot less urgency if it's tied i think i think they definitely would have taken a couple shots there has to be less urgency if it's tied there just has to be i think they still would have tried to win the game in regulation they would have tried but i'm saying they would have given up a lot quicker like you don't give up if you there's there's just a difference of being

tied and knowing that you have the safety of overtime and being you know down one and having to win the game in regulation i think that if you look back on the conversation we had last thursday which was extremely dumb but also very insightful at the same time when when talking about how defenses have changed a little bit when it comes to the pressure that they have on fourth downs i think that's actually very true offenses they they don't have as many good plays ready to go on fourth down i i think it applies more to that situation where its coach is going four and fourth down than it does for the two-point conversion at the end of games but they the the problem with this conversion at the end of the game i think was a play call if you look what

happened before they actually went out there and ran the play harbaugh called two guys over to the sideline to talk about the play because they put the guys out there and then they had them fake a play to try to get them to jump off sides harbaugh then called two guys over to talk to about the play that they were about to run one was huntley makes sense two was andrews well who do you think they're going to pass the ball to if if harbaugh is like literally talking to the tight end and to the quarterback about what the fourth down or what the two-point conversion play is going to be and then they ran a play where guess what andrews was double covered in the corner of the end zone and they cut the field in half too which made it harder for him yeah because he rolled out right away

um our friend erin nagler texted me back he said i'm fine winning the super bowl 45 40 so that makes me scared but that also means that he's a little scared right yeah packers fans i don't know i don't know chim they do have some injuries so they will get some guys back but there's also every time i i flip back to this game mark andrews was just diving across the end zone making catch that's what he does yeah he was always he's always doing that one little dive where he's got one knee down that's dragging across the ground making a touchdown catch that's how he lives yeah he was awesome this game like delivered uh it was it was a great game to watch i also think they if you noticed i don't know if they do this for tv jake you can maybe tell me

the game the first half went so fast that it caught up to the 405 games i think they intentionally slowed down the second half kind of pissed me off well there's more commercial breaks there's a quota for amount of breaks and there it is there it is all right so that wasn't that hard to figure out um that was just me being dumb uh okay so yeah i'm i'm in official uh trying to poke holes in the packers season because uh i'm very very scared about how good they are and this is this is basically we'll consume my every thought for the next month and a half trying to watch the packers and be like oh that's a problem for them oh that's a problem for them um so that's where i'm at mentally uh we should go to football guy the week then we'll wrap up with who's back of the week billy perfect so

congratulations to coach brian lapak the kansas state university recruiting coach who won last week's football guy of the week he was the one who said that he was looking for dudes who'd go after moby dick in a rowboat and bring the tartar sauce with them this week our first nominee is hunter white neck an incoming offensive lineman to the university of illinois so uh he retweeted his commitment uh from the university and uh they said that he didn't have any stats because he was offensive lineman because they post all their recruits their stats uh where they're from and everything and he just goes stats are overrated mauling people is it so that's a big football guy quote from him okay like it mauling people yeah straight up mauling our second uh nominee this

week is spencer brown offensive lineman for the bills uh he's chugged a beer before going out on his offensive drive in the bills game which is pretty sick i mean he he didn't really drink it but he just poured it all over himself wait was it was it like a fans beer yeah i like that he threw him a beer and he just chugged it and threw it all over himself that's gonna be really funny like when you line up against the guy and just smells like beer yeah bill you're our nutrition expert is there if you drink one beer if your entire offensive line drink one beer each would that have any effect on them positive or negative well you know who actually drinks beers before athletic events tyson fury said that he used to drink a couple pints before his fight against klitschko yeah i

don't think he he doesn't drink anymore though i remember there's a couple people were like it's awkward that you ask the guy who doesn't drink if he drinks i'm like well sorry i didn't know yeah so i don't think he drinks anymore but he's used to use like boxers back in the day used to drink before fights and you know we haven't gotten down it was pretty crazy but i think it would be uh probably not too detrimental to drink one beer because if you think about playing beer pong nobody's get a beer pong sober right that's a fat beer pong at the you peak when you have a little buzz going do you think that quarterbacks or pitchers should just be slightly buzzed yeah i do too you think a little less don't think just throw okay we should be should be drunk he's a player that would

definitely be served well from having like i don't know like three brown ailes before he goes out yep i actually think zack wilson would be a little more relaxed so you played a little buzzed you get drunk too easy couldn't be worse right less doidoy plays he hasn't had any doidoy plays the past two weeks but in the beginning he definitely had some nerves uh number three is mac brown head coach at the university of north carolina chapel hill so on quoting if during the mayo bowl because he's playing the mayo bowl if he'd get doused with mayo after the bowl like a big uh tub of mayo he said if we won a game i'd let someone hit me in the face with a frying pan i don't care the coaches actually did do they did come to agreement that the winning coach would get doused in mail

like it's official i love that genius why wouldn't you do that if you're the mayo bowl like people were gonna watch they had i think the frisco bowl uh ken states coach sean louis got doused in uh in smoothie it was like the frisco smoothie king right yeah yeah that's gonna be awesome so who are they playing against it's north carolina and uh university south carolina in south yeah that's i wish that must champ was around for that i would love to see him get doused but he he seems to be a guy that would look like that's gonna be an all-time brazzers logo slapped to that screenshot yes so our fourth nominees is a bunch of the canadian offensive lineman on texas state so texas state posted a photo shoot that their canadian offensive lineman did in honor of maple

syrup day uh so turns out texas state recruits canada lot so they just have a picture of these two offensive lineman kyle hagel and liam dobson just dousing each other with uh maple syrup because they're offensive lineman they love maple syrups and pancakes love it oh wait billy why do they love pancakes because when they flatten someone on the ground what they call it a pancake block so it's actually really great to have canadian offensive lineman because why are they drinking syrup they're drinking syrup because they're canadian and it was maple syrup day oh the pancakes i get it exactly yeah so uh for our uh old school football guy the week story we go to so this is really awesome twitter account i found called old nfl stories oh so someone

does your job for you that's nice well i found this account they do a really good job really no one tagged you in it no one tagged you in it this this account has 120 followers i have literally found it it's a really good um i can't wait till we someone hits us up tomorrow pft make sure you look at your dm someone's gonna be like i said this to billy like three weeks ago please dm me with a screenshot yeah this account billy found it found it so it's his they they do really great work i'm giving them credit because it would be scummy if i was just like i found this story from this book so here's the here's a little out uh so this is a story from a book published in 1970 uh now i don't mean pro ball players were a bunch of drunks because they were

not they played tough football we used to practice at nine o'clock in the morning and get through about noon and then about three times a week we'd have a meeting at night the afternoons generally were your own i've seen more doggone fights among football players because they didn't have anything else to do i've seen them even fight the owners i remember that when the bears were playing in san francisco dutch sternoman who owned half of the club got up in the dressing room and said that he was not going to start george traft in our center george stood up and knocked dutch right through the dressing room window onto the lawn it was an insult in those days to tell a ball player he was not going to start or to take him out of the game the only way you can

came out was to be dragged out with an injury preventing you from walking so a dude punched an owner and knocked him out back in the day i love that yeah i like it all apparently football back in the 40s was pretty much just the bunkhouse at the yellowstone ranch where it's just like okay a bunch of dudes in a room they're gonna fight and you might die you might die good luck and yell wins all the the national titles like imagine jerry jones got knocked out by ziculelliot that would be a big story that's a fact that's a fact that's a fact um all right vote for it blogs up right blogs up blogs up blogs up all right let's finish up we got who's back of the week brought to you by cash app major announcement from cash app they're now introducing team banking

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tiger woods is back after his injury he played in a program this weekend and even though he was back that usually steals the show but his son played with him and his son stole the show he swings exactly like him he does the club twirl he's got all the swagger he was hitting like unbelievable shots uh i think they finished like minus 25 25 on there they had like eight straight birdies on sunday finished in second place i think yeah it was the dailies the dailies the dailies and you know that john daly's son has been golfing with his dad since he was like probably two years old just as a designated driver by the time they hit the back nine yeah oh yeah uh but it was i mean the it's crazy as good as tiger woods is it's just crazy seeing the videos the side-by-side comparisons

just the mannerisms and how they're exactly the same and even the videos of like his son like talking shit like hitting big putts and like talking shit sticking like he had the best shot on a par three of any of the players that played in the whole tournament it's crazy it's just crazy that he really is that good you know what it is it's wild it's wild it is it's a definition of tiger woods the greatest golfer of all time has a son that golfs that's why golfs just like him yeah no jakes jakes right everything was just like a bunch of dads and sons walking around acting like each other oh yeah it was wild it was the wild it was very wild i'm just glad that as a society we've learned from the dangers of putting tiger in front of a camera since the time he was

a young child and then pinning all of our hopes on him and we're definitely not going to do that to his son charlie right no yeah i'm sure i'll have a totally normal upbringing and be perfectly perfectly fine by the time he's you know an adult yeah people were like saying that that charlie woods not smiling like he's got the eye of the tiger it's like well i mean he is a kid he should probably smile every now and then yeah it's okay for him to have fun you're like this is awesome you know what it'll probably be an incredible golfer and he'll probably be like an unreal champion and be like well i probably should have smiled less as a kid like it's cool to root for charlie woods yes at the same time the people who are like i love this child it's it's freaking me out a little

bit oh a lot of it a lot of it it absolutely is i don't know i i said i kind of agree but i was watching the broadcast and it really he really is it's one of those things where it's like if it was just tiger wood son yeah but he's actually like he's good nasty yeah did you see this journalist it was like total big j golf golf journalist said uh my takeaway from today is simply this tiger woods is the most inspirational human being that's ever lived he sprints when the world says he'll never walk he marches on when the world says just give it up he will win again he is tiger woods that was riggs that was riggs himself when uh when tiger caught that ball even though he had the golf tee in his hand and was

like this seems like low key the most athletic thing that i've ever seen in my life that was a perfect tweet from riggs because i i think he's a hundred percent serious but it was so over the top that you could also convince yourself that he's doing a shtick so it's like oh that plays but i think riggs definitely meant every word of that yes yes so it's a it's a great gray zone to be in where everyone else can see it and be like oh that's a joke but deep down riggs like wrote that in his diary and was like i i am so inspired by tiger woods and so i feel about jo flacco yeah yeah um he is tiger woods is very inspirational very inspirational he overcame a car accident that still has very murky details on what happened that's very inspirational no but

they're that's not supposed to stay private it's just it's just a funny thing to be like he's inspirational it's just weird to me how people are like zooming in on charlie woods and being like a show where i haven't seen charlie on tv in five minutes what's going on yeah i'm i'm very happy tiger woods is back i love tiger woods it's a joy to watch him play golf his car crashes a little a little suspect yeah and it's it's like public uh it's supposed to be public domain or whatever i've read i've read a few i read like one article and a few tweet threads about how how sketchy it is yeah but that's okay listen no one got hurt so no no harm no foul let's just say that and uh i'm happy he is back i truly am happy he's back i i mean golf is like tiger woods

is so so much means so much of golf and also golf is so so much more fun when tiger woods is playing so i hope he does compete for you know masters and everything going for it i don't the odds are against him but i'm i'm rooting for it because it'd be the good like one of the greatest golf stories or one of the greatest sports stories of our lifetime was tiger winning the masters a few years ago it absolutely was yeah it was incredible that that weekend everybody was like glued to their tv's yeah he wanted i think on the same day that he had wanted earlier when his dad was there that was awesome yeah that was a great that was a great sports moment all i'm saying is maybe let charlie be a kid a little bit or if he doesn't want to be really what does that mean though

like he's nasty it's a it's a pro am tournament where the where the pros play with their sons like it's just weird to be like no you're not saying i need more charlie on my tv you're not saying charlie's weird it's it's no the people who are obsessing over him are a little weird like let's not pin all your hopes and dreams about everything that you would have liked to accomplish in life for charlie woods agree because that then hasn't worked out so well recently for tiger when you did that to him yes agreed agreed i mean when the masters he did win the masters many times point well taken uh all right pft your who's back i mean tiger was going to be my who's back of the week for sure i'll just i'll just toss this one out there i heard my first is diehard a

christmas movie debate today i think terry bradshaw brought that one up so um you're dead to me if you have that debate it's dead don't that debate is over don't do it don't do it please don't do it um it's a hot dog is sandwich yeah i've never even seen diehard oh it's a good movie especially this time you should watch it yeah it's nice uh my other who's back of the week is north dakota state university they won in the fargo dome now hand up i i was nervous going into this game because i was afraid of the weather in north i was looking at weather scouting reports on my phone i was like i was telling the guys i'm worried about this one i don't know how how james is going to be able to travel and deal with a six degree temperature north dakota forgot about the the fargo dome forgot

that it was inside so it was very confused when they started showing the game and everybody in that fucking dome is wearing like wool jackets and so for a second i assumed that it is outside until then i start seeing some people wearing t-shirts and i realized that in fact inside a dome can i ask a question so uh on to break the fourth wall fifth wall whatever it is uh on our part of my take group chat uh on friday night so i got i got the booster on friday i was feeling like shit friday night so i was going to bed and pft asked me to do the thanks for coming out tweet for north north dakota's or for jmu and i was like now's not the right time i went to sleep for halftime and i was like jake you have my twitter password if pft needs it he'll ask and you just

do it did you it was never even close in the second half no it was close there there were some moments but based on the flow of the game yeah i didn't feel like the thanks for coming out jmu tweet is not appropriate when jmu is down by one touchdown and they're driving with the ball right you know so it never really got to that that point where i needed the extra boost i would have used it if the situation was but you don't want to you don't want to abuse that power it was like the end of the first half when i was saying like if they stop them for a field goal you can't use it if they score a touchdown against you you can use it because yeah it doesn't damn because i woke up the next morning and i had no more text messages i was like well jmu definitely lost because

the the order for the tweet wasn't wasn't sent was on for me for letting jake i let you both have just free reign on my twitter account yeah i did i didn't want to abuse that power didn't the situation did not feel right and that nordicota state team is a lot of fun to watch but it was painful for me to watch it because they are built in every way that i personally would build a football team and it was like watching my own design destroy me it was a team that was all full backs their guy hunter lepke that guy's a real motherfucker i i looked at his twitter bio his twitter bio was perfect for a full back absolutely his his avatar or his um his profile picture was him in high school playing football he's never tweeted once he's never liked to tweet

he's from wisconsin and then he just destroyed me and meanwhile we have i don't know who the announcer was for this game but all he kept saying was this is neck roll football this is big boy football they've got they've got 11 tight ends on the field they've got 11 full backs on the field this is big boy neck roll football over and over and over again i just i have nobody to blame but myself it was like i can't even be mad about losing that game because the team's awesome the only thing i'm saying is like i'm counting this as a second place overall i like that victory for jmu because nordicota state's gonna win the chip um all right my who's back is women's volleyball because wisconsin won the national title no big

deal we did actually win a national title this weekend on like upft but that was uh no big deal just took down nebraska which i didn't even know nebraska i guess has like a dynasty in volleyball um news to me also my who's back shout out to women though that was an awesome game i watched the whole thing crazy sport don't understand the rules especially when you're watching on mute but the wisconsin ladies i think they lost in the finals last year so it was an unfinished business we have like uh a six eight and six nine center just awesome awesome team on wisconsin and then my other who's back is naty as i don't know if you guys saw the video but naty as like two for flinching doesn't even it doesn't exist anymore because it's not as cool as what naty as did if

you didn't see the video naty as there's a guy i guess who was talking shit in the um press conferences because nate nate's like friend was fighting in the undercard for the jake paul fight and there was a guy who's talking shit from the other camp and he said that when he sees the ds brothers it's on site and that was when he saw the ds brothers that night naty as he he fake punched the guy like like through a fake punch and the guy spilled his beer everywhere it was incredible naty as is the best i don't think that there's a guy that you less should be on site with the naty as right naty as is like kind of halfway on site with everybody right rival to be to be like yeah i'm on site with like being publicly declaring that you're going to punch naty as the next time

you see him is a bad idea unless you actually intend on punching of the next time you see him right and this guy definitely won no part it was it was the biggest beer that i've ever seen too so much beer so much that everything everything all right uh billy my who's back the week is bishop sycamore so uh ohio the state finally got around to investigating bishop sycamore and like wasn't really a school and what they found out is that they couldn't actually uh bishop sycamore was kind of innocent under ohio law as it currently stands bishop sycamore can continue to operate according to the investigative report so bishop sycamore kind of absolved so they're really good at paperwork so they've they've managed escape now are they actually a school yeah under ohio

state law they are a school all right not a good school but school like but basically the state can't shut down their program okay so and my other who's back the week is the usfl so turns out they're gonna have spring footballs back the usfl is back it's gonna be around in the spring so be interesting to see how that goes call me when the xfl comes back i i they'll do this for the end of time and unless they want to offer me a tryout and actually let me play in the games in which case i'll i'll flip to the usfl so fucking fast they they just want to keep doing this and it's like march madness exists and it's awesome right do anything about the schedule absolutely yeah the best you can't play spring football football is of we we do 25 weeks of football

it's awesome if you had football year-round we would get sick of it i'm saying it i personally wouldn't i would not get sick of march madness is awesome can do you know anything about the schedule when does it kick off uh april 2020 so it's after march madness okay so it's nba playoffs nhl playoffs but it's all the old teams like the new jersey generals are back there's other sports i like other sports i'm officially on team fuck the usfl unless they do let me kick in a game in which case i'll be the biggest usfl guy in the history i i love football the most but i do like to watch other sports from time to time especially in march and like june and july when it's stanley cup playoffs that's kind of fun you know all right

jake finish us off who's back my who's back of the week is buck showalter yes the new york mets have their manager the fan base they seem to overwhelmingly love it frank tank liked it yeah yeah which can only mean one thing it's probably a disaster but i like the water though he gets results he has the best manager name of all time yeah and he manages like his name sounds yeah he's like it's right he's like basically from 1970 you have the year 1970 coming to manage your team it's going to be awesome his name is buck and you're in the show and his last name show it's it's the best he's gonna have results um all right that's good who's back because i agree with you jake that it's probably gonna go poorly because having mets twitter agree on anything

like or be positive about something together never happens never ever has sure is there yeah never what is what does linny dykstra have to say about this i'm not sure he's alive again uh yes he is uh numbers billy got any recap anything any stat i have to remember you go ahead remember remember my last animal fact about how coat coates yeah basically yeah we turned out our boss Dave portnoy fell for it thought there was some cute exotic creature and they ran into his hotel room and ruined it like the raccoons they actually are he like ran into one down damn damn not crazy but like it's such coincidence that is a quiles that's very weird you should hit him up you should tax him be like hey boss you need any help with these come take care of that yeah yeah well they're

basically raccoons uh before we do numbers i want to shout out the awl kevin who is losing his mind um he he uh emailed me he's been guessing 22 every single time and he's convinced that 22 is not in the lottery machine he said that he's paused the in studio shows the last 15 of them when there's been like a picture of the lottery machine in the back to to like scour the numbers and he hasn't been able to find 22 it took me one second i found 22 it was in the machine but i just want to prove it for him for his own sanity 22 is in the machine this is 22 it's in the machine but i thought that was funny that a guy's like he literally he sent me a bunch of screenshots being like look i'm looking i don't see it in there um so he was losing his mind 100 balls i don't want him to lose his mind

he's been guessing 22 every time all right ready if this is 22 this would be insane yeah i'm guessing 22 all right i'm guessing 22 or 2 44 69 8 i'll guess 81 we can't share a title we're due for 69 again leon what'd you guess oh i got it 81 boom damn oh wow yeah first timer right first timer bam all right i'm i'm i'm jumping on to another first timer ball agami ball agami we had a halftime score agami today i appreciated jake disavowing it immediately how many ball agamis we got left jake six 20 22 26 27 29 49 51 76 78 we do this every time we get a ball agami i ask you that and then you start rattling off a bunch of numbers i'm like too many 11 left 11 left okay oh we didn't even talk about jake ball today billy you still want to

fight him yeah i'm gonna be honest he looks like a very yeah he's a very good boxer okay so he has defeated you he's beating you he's not yeah i mean yeah we first started out like now he beat you robinson days i think he beat you but now that i blog and sit in a chair all day and not really be that active excuse us all right that's the show so billy is oh and one lifetime versus the paul brothers we'll just say both of them yes love you guys hate buffalo are really dangerous i want to say i've saved any way today's a nice day to find you shine away i'll be coming for your love okay shine away i'll be coming for your love okay

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