Pardon My Take - NFL Week 15, Fastest 2 Minutes, Vikings Insane Comeback, Patriots Shocking Loss, World Cup And Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: December 19, 2022

We start with Fastest 2 minutes (00:02:06-00:08:15) then in a twist of fate we started recording the first half of the show before SNF and sat down to record right as the Raiders beat the Patriots (00...:08:15-00:18:37). We then recap every game from Saturday/Sunday Vikings, Colts (00:18:37-00:28:15) Browns, Ravens (00:28:15-00:36:12) Bills, Dolphins (00:36:12-00:48:56) Jags, Cowboys (00:48:56-00:59:54) Lions, Jets (00:59:54-01:09:42) Eagles, Bears (01:09:42-01:15:34) Saints, Falcons (01:15:34-01:23:32) Chiefs, Texans (01:23:32-01:30:34) Steelers, Panthers (01:30:34-01:34:51) Chargers, Titans (01:34:51-01:47:06) Broncos, Cardinals (01:47:06-01:56:50) Raiders, Patriots (01:56:50-02:10:17) Bengals, Bucs (02:10:17-02:19:22) Giants, Commanders (02:19:22-02:28:23) We finish with Football guy of the week (02:28:23-02:33:06) and who's back of the week including World Cup Recap (02:33:06-02:54:11) .You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, week 15 of the NFL. It was an incredible, incredible weekend of football. Also, we had the World Cup, we'll talk about that as well. Fastest two minutes, recap of every game.
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Starting point is 00:01:42 Boy! Now in the street there is violence and not a lot of work to be done. No place to hang out or wash in and then I can't live all on the sun. Oh no, we gonna rock down to electric avenue and then we take it higher. Oh, we gonna rock down to electric avenue
Starting point is 00:02:12 and then we take it higher. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, December 19th, week 15. We start in Minnesota where Jeff Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, is not alright, alright, as Jeff Saturday Night Live used to be fun
Starting point is 00:02:55 but now it's just gotten sad as his team blew a record-breaking 33-point lead. On the other side, Kirk Cousins had the biggest comeback since Ray J. as he hooked up time and time again with every kiss begins with K.J., Aus-born, clinching the NFC north and shutting up the haters of which there are many,
Starting point is 00:03:14 Vikings 39, Colts 36. To snowy western New York, where there was no need for dildos as the forecast predicted nine inches, but both teams' offense provided more than enough to pleasure the masses. Josh Alventar and the tall blue creatures learned the way of water and turned it to ice against the fish, and in an ironic twist, the only fish that survived the winter snow storm was Tyler Bass, as he nailed the game winner as time expired. Hey, Tige. Yeah, boom.
Starting point is 00:03:45 No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. The Bills, 32. It opens, going on. Down to New Jersey on Sunday, where Zach Milfson was playing with a heavy heart as the world lost its most famous cougar this week. R.I.P. P-22. CJ saved the drama for a Zama score twice, but the game came down to the fourth quarter where Brock, right now, caught a mode magic moment
Starting point is 00:04:13 like there's no tomorrow. Scampering in the end zone for the go-ahead score. Don't look back in anger, Jets fans, because so solid can wait, he knows it's too late to use his last time out. Lions 20, Jets 17. Down to Carolina, where Sam Donald Schwarzenegger said, I'm back to losing football games. And hey, you're a crazy bitch, but you fuck so good on top of it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Uses De'Arte Johnson to get deep inside the kiddie's defense all afternoon. Steve John Wilkes Booth really ruined a lot of plays, as George Pickens' charge was a turning point in this battle. Steelers 24, the Panthers 16. In Duval, where Quack Prescott threw up some wounded ducks as the Jaguars made a furious second half comeback. Ooh, what you say that you only meant, well, ooh, what you say that you're going to score three times as a wide receiver hit pay dirt thrice on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Jason Derulo. The game went into overtime when a voice came in from overhead saying, all right, chums, let's do this. Marquez Rashon Leroy Jenkins ran it home alone for the win, Jaguars 40, Cowboys 34. Over to Houston, where we're back to Civil War references as the Texans were led by Jeff Davis. Or if you're reading your program, the law firm of Driscoll and Mills, Marquez Valtrex Scantling broke out in the red zone with a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:05:50 The game went to overtime where Jarrick Clapton McKinnon saw a tiny and ran today like Chiefs 30. Taxes 24. We head down to Tampa Bay where the Bucks came out hot with a first half touchdown from Russell Crowe Gage as Tom Brady asked the people, are you not entertained? But in the words of my dear friend Lee Corso, not so fast, my friends. The second half saw the Bucks Joe burrowed into a hole only to have its corpse sprout into a Bengals colored tray flower as the cornerback started the onslaught of turnovers.
Starting point is 00:06:23 It may be time to count out touchdown Tom as the Bucks are looking like a turd in the Todd Punch Bulls, Bengals 34, Bucks 24. And over to the Middle East and other football news as my guitar gently weeps, the world says goodbye to the World Cup. Many were saying he's washed, but I can report he's still very messy, slotting a penalty in the first half. Argentina was getting very emo. Hey, I got your kicker, I'm coming with you, Di Maria, tap running.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And as is tradition, it took a very long time for the French to fight back as Killian Sonoma Mbappe had a couple of gifts ready for the Argentines. Oliver Giroud, Giroud, Giroud is on fire, got taken out, and the game went to extra time, and P.K.'s Mbappe dip it up, he's only 19, he's a youth, Messi has taken the free basing torch for Maradona and we are all better for it. France, three goals, two penalties, Argentina, three goals, four penalties. And on the corner, Jame is switching down in Nola, such a fine sight to see. Marriota's out, so he started to pout and left to go get surgery.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Come on, Ritter, will Comptons acquit her? Go win the division, the NFC South is a shitter. The Saints go marching, 21-18, week 15, fastest two minutes brought to you by our friends at Chevy, commanding unstoppable Chevy Silverado, learn more at Chevy.com, thank you to Chevy, the greatest truck ever created, the Chevy Silverado, go check it out, Chevy.com now. Week 15 in the books, that weekend ruled. Saturday was one of the best football days that I can remember. A lot of people would be like, hey, that Brown's Ravens game stunk, we needed to break.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I needed to take a deep breath after that Vikings colds game. It was one of the best sports days I can ever remember, just in general. It's here for sports guys. It's here for sports, because it was NFL, it was bowl games, it was like, there was like four or five top 25 college basketball matchups that came down to the wire. The whole day ruled, it reminded you why you love sports. I feel bad for anyone who had to spend their entire day shopping. I actually, at like 11 a.m., I went to Target to try to do something.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I walked in, the line to check out was 150 people long. I just walked right back out and I was like, I'll just go on Amazon. That's smart. I'm like, fuck this, I'm not doing this. I did that and except it was at the post office to mail out some packages and I got in the door and I was like, I could just like go down the street and pay five times as much at FedEx and get it out of there. But I had to, I was committed, I was pocketed at that point.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So yeah, you have to do your errands early, lesson learned on Saturdays. Yeah. And it was just a great day of football, great weekend of football. We had great games on Sunday as well. So let's recap it all. Let's do it all. We're going to do it in chronological order. By the way, we're breaking, we're doing history right now on Pardon My Take, because we wanted
Starting point is 00:09:50 to watch the Sunday football game on stream. We're actually taping this game while a couple of the four o'clock games are still going on. It feels weird. It feels very weird. It's almost like it's in the daytime right now. Yeah. It's like when you go on your first date with somebody, when it's not at night and you're
Starting point is 00:10:03 sober, that's kind of what we're doing right now. Yeah. Right. So we're, you guys look, you guys look hot. We're having sober sex right now. Yeah. That's what we're doing. Hanks, Pouty, we'll get to that later.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But we, Hanks, Pouty, no, oh, he's not Pouty. Okay. It's a tie game. We got a tie Patriots game. That's true. All right. Oh my God. Little lateral.
Starting point is 00:10:24 They know it's a tie game. This is dangerous. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Raiders. Oh my God. Oh my God. That was the craziest. Oh my God. Jets can still. The fact that we're taping, this is the first time we've ever taken this early. They don't do that in tie games.
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, they do that. Oh my God. Oh my God. Hey, there's a flag. Why? Rugby might not be back after all. This is going to be the most confusing thing ever. Wait.
Starting point is 00:10:52 They took the flag off. And it was Chandler Jones. Oh my God. Oh Jesus. The graphics person. Wow. Oh yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Why did they do that? It's a tie game. Oh my God. This is the first time we've ever taped, pardon my take, before the Sunday night football game and we just got rewarded with one of the craziest plays ever live on air. Hank, we'll talk about the Patriots Raiders later, but let's get instant reaction. Instant Henry Lockwood. What were they doing?
Starting point is 00:11:22 What were they doing? I, they didn't realize it was a tie game. I don't, that's just, I can't believe that just happened. That's it. That was like the fucking Dolphins game times a, a billion. That's a Belichick call right there. That's crazy. I had a, and they blew the game at the end of the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And it was Chandler and it was Josh McDaniels. Oh no. And peep, and we were recorded for the first time early in the seven years we've been doing this show. I'm going to be, now, I mean, now I'm going to be powdery. Hank, I had a huge bet on the Patriots money line. Oh no. I didn't do.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That was, I don't know what they were thinking. They must have thought they were down. I don't know. They should have just kneeled. There was nothing, there's no, like this lateral was insane. He threw a 20 yards back for no reason. With one person in front. Was that Matt Jones?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Matt Jones just got stiff arm. Absolutely smoked. He just sat him down. Matt Jones last line of defense. Oh my God. He just sat him down. Bill Belichick is going to fucking lose it. That is the most unpatriot.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Watch this. Oh no. Oh man, Matt Jones. If you're Matt Jones or you got to like, you got to face mask him. You got to do anything that you can to take him down. That was the most unpatriots play I've ever seen in my life. Well, one person's patriot is another person's terrorist. That's like a butt fumble.
Starting point is 00:12:45 That was, Billy, you're not that too far off. I mean, it wasn't as bad as a butt fumble. It was pretty much. That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. And the fact that it won the game. Hank, we need, we need you to rally for some thoughts. Billy, don't try to, don't try to get rid of the butt fumble.
Starting point is 00:13:03 That's Hank. I hate that we're going to have to milk you for some content right now. But I'm underneath, I'm underneath your, your belly right now. And I'm, I'm squeezing your udders. Let's go. Thoughts. Give it to us raw as raw as it could get. Jets lose.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Dolphins lose. Patriots come back and win this game. A lot of momentum going into the playoffs. That's how I was feeling. Not but seven minutes ago. And now I just, I think I'm, I could not watch football for the rest of the year. And I'd like, I have no interest in watching this. Who threw that pass?
Starting point is 00:13:38 We got picked off there. I don't know. I blame him. Oh yeah. Because, because the, the offload that the running back hit him with downfield, that was like a desperation thing. It didn't feel like it was part of like a design play for him to try to pitch that ball back. But then Jacoby Myers got the ball and he was like, oh, I guess we're just throwing
Starting point is 00:13:56 laterals now into the plays over. It was his fault. He did not realize that it was a tie game. I don't think. Yeah. That was, that's, I, I take that back. I don't think it was Bellacheck's call to have them do this at the end of this game. Break, break.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Also he was out. I forgot about the touchdown. Yeah. Well, I still have in processes. Breaking. Break. The, the, the, no, no, breaking moves. Breaking moves.
Starting point is 00:14:19 The touchdown that they scored, they reviewed it and there was clear, indisputable evidence that he stepped out of bounds and they just didn't reverse it. That's a fact. Breaking moves. Oh. Come on. Give us, I'm sucking these others dry. Give me the moves.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Is it really breaking moves? Yes, breaking moves. It's big time breaking moves. Breaking moves. Breaking moves. 728 PM, December 18th, 2022. Hennies tweeted broken. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Your comment. Comment. That's hard. Breaking moves. Hank, talk about your tweet. I was, I was. Shut the. I've been working on this for seven years and you just tweeted it out.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah. Hank, PFT comments are part of my take podcast. Can you talk about your broken tweet? If you're watching this on the, on the PFT YouTube, you're going to see my reaction. I was in legitimate shock that I forgot about the touchdown that they scored to tie the game, which was just not a touchdown. Yeah. I cannot believe our luck.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That's the most Falcons play that I've ever seen in my life. PMT rigged. Yeah. Never. Seven years we've been doing this podcast. We do the same thing every time we start taping at this halftime of Saturday football. PFT was like, Hey, I wanted, I want to stream a pretty big game between the commanders and Giants.
Starting point is 00:15:30 We're like, all right, we'll start recording early and we'll do half the show early. We sit down in the chairs and that play happens. They keep showing. Matt Jones. Jones got absolutely Barry Chandler Jones. It's legend to that. Yeah. That might got to be a coffee tweet that dude.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That might be it. That might be a play that he might like, I don't know if you can come back from that. Oh, spin zone, spin zone, spin zone. He sat him down. Matt Jones cry face DUI picture. No longer the thing that people will bring up. He just saw it for another time. Tell me crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I think Bailey zappy makes that tackle. He's like, you can tell that he hits lower center lower center of gravity for sure. He's more used to tackling people on interceptions and Mack Jones is just got sat down. It wasn't even a. What was Jacoby Myers doing? What the fuck was Chandler Jones doing back there? That's the real question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Now I have two more questions. One, what was Chandler Jones doing in the backfield? That's number one question. Number two, why was Jacoby Myers trying to throw the ball to Mack Jones? Like Mack Jones was going to break it open and run 70 yards and score a touchdown and win the game. I actually think fellow check might have been in on this. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I think I think they they're like no one would expect us to do laterals. No, I think he just lost his mind. It was the Reggie Bush play. Yeah. Bush was like, I'm Reggie Bush. I'm just going to fucking lateral it here. Yeah. It works.
Starting point is 00:17:02 So the running back hit a pretty sick lateral downfield and then Jacoby Myers got a case of lateral flu and he was like, oh, that's what we're doing. Okay. You did it. I'm going to do it too. Man. This. What a start to the show.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah. I mean, I people are going to think this is fake and maybe it is. No. I said, Hey guys, I got a good idea. We'll just hang. This is a new level. This is a new level. This is low.
Starting point is 00:17:22 This is low. This is so low. I know it's a good take. Let's do it again. He's artificially undermining the credibility of this podcast just to try to get a little bit of his shame, the stench of shame off his body. But the Miami miracle, that was the end of that season and that just felt like the end of this season.
Starting point is 00:17:40 So what's this? This needs a nickname. That's the Miami miracle. Las Vegas, L O S S. Yeah. Jonesed. You just got Jonesed. That was so bad.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Wow. Okay. Well, all right. Welcome to part of my take. We're going to part of my take. It is 732. You sure you don't want to try it again? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Actually. Yeah. Let's try it again. Someone show their Max. Put your phone up. Do you? What's your lock screen? It's probably Eagles.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Probably some fucking fat Eagles fan or something. Right. There you go. Perfect. Put it right in the camera so everyone can see 732 on Sunday night for all the Hank truthers out there. Boom. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Max, you have your sound mind and body. This is this is like casting couch right now. Show us your ID. Yeah. Feel great. Okay. Well, we'll talk about Raiders Patriots later when we when we try to process everything. What we were saying is incredible weekend of football and we had that we had comebacks.
Starting point is 00:18:41 We had insane plays. We had an awesome snow game. Let's hop right into it. Let's start in chronological order Vikings 39 Colts 36. The Indianapolis Colts blew a 33 to nothing lead at halftime. So the Vikings could clinch the NFC North. It was an insane, insane game. It was the largest in basically the ultimate twist of the knife into Frank right side.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It was the largest comeback in NFL history, which supplanted Frank Reich's comeback with the bills over the Oilers in the 1992 wildcard game. So the team that fired him then went to go on and give up the largest comeback, taking them off the record books. Yeah. I mean, no one's giving Jeff Saturday credit for building a 33 point lead at halftime. So we should acknowledge that. And then to be on, ultimately, it's a good thing for the Colts that they get a better
Starting point is 00:19:38 draft pick out of it. Yeah. That's like six to 12, but not in this way. You don't want this to ever happen. Jeff, I like Jeff Saturday seems like a good guy. He should probably be fired as interim head coach. What did he say at halftime? Was he like, great job, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:54 We got it. I think he's got to run the ball, even though we'd have Jonathan Taylor because he got hurt right away and pack it up, you know, extra day off. We're good to go. He's like, we got this in the bag. He probably probably like poisoned them at halftime because Jim Mercer wants that better draft pick. We think that Jeff Saturday is like Jim Mercer's mole on the inside of the organization.
Starting point is 00:20:14 So he's like, OK, we proved our point. Now everybody lets tank and there will be a new pair of Uggs in your locker after the game courtesy of Mr. Erse. And I do or Matt Ryan, poor Matt Ryan, it wasn't, it wasn't his fault. Yeah. You know, in a way it was because, but he was just being Matt Ryan. Right. Like he was basically everything went right for the Colts in the first half where they
Starting point is 00:20:35 have a pick six. I think they had a block punt. And then Fumble, Fumble, they had everything go their way. And then Matt Ryan, he's not fully capable anymore. And for him to have to just have like, you know, we talked, we've talked to him on the show a couple of times being like, you know, how many times is 28 to three come up? It's like every week. This is just so cruel that it now is like everyone just spent the entire Saturday being
Starting point is 00:21:01 like, hey, 28 to three, hold my beer, 33, nothing. Yeah. I finally got rid of the 28 to three memes, but at what cost? Yeah. Everything. It cost me everything. And then after the game, Jeff Saturday said there's plenty of blame to go around. I guess that's technically true, but he probably just should have been like, Hey, I fucked
Starting point is 00:21:18 this one up. I fucked it really badly. And the irony of all this is the Colts have no shortage of position coaches on that team. That would be the perfect coach to implement a second half game plan to just like, don't do shit and not lose a giant lead. So like John, you think John Fox would ever blow a 33 point lead? Gus Bradley. He probably would never have one, but like those guys would just run the shit out of
Starting point is 00:21:40 the ball. I'm pretty sure if they just ran the ball every single down in the second half, they could have choked the clock out and just like anacondaed the Vikings in the second half. John Fox would have started going down to zero on the on the play clock the minute the second half started. Yeah. Even when the clock was already stopped.
Starting point is 00:21:57 He would have maybe dealt. Yeah. Yeah. So you probably could have won the game if you had done that. But on the other side, a lot of credit to the Vikings, they were awesome in the second half. They had some fluke stuff that happened in the first half that really put them behind the eight ball.
Starting point is 00:22:09 But I, I think we're, so we joke about them and their point differential and how they're not necessarily all there. They're a little bit fraudulent, but also we should give them credit for being fun. So they're a very, very fun team. So I had this same thought independently. I was talking to some friends of mine who were close friends of mine who were Vikings fans and it dawned on me that I've been a little bit hypocritical and I want to, I want to, I want to fess up to Vikings fans because I think at the end of the day we will
Starting point is 00:22:37 be right, but we don't have to, we don't have to like, you know, keep talking about how we will be right. Cause we know we'll be right. They know we'll be right. It's a separate conversation. Right. I'm a big believer in sports that you have to enjoy the ride. You have to enjoy the ride.
Starting point is 00:22:52 You have to enjoy the season, the ups and downs, watching with your team, dying with your team. Like there's only one winner at the end. If you were in it just to win championships, none of us would be watching sports because none of our teams win. So I had that thought and I was like, you know what, I'm going to, I'm going to tell Vikings fans that I am sorry in the fact that I need to just let you guys enjoy the ride.
Starting point is 00:23:15 They're a fun team. They've had some like iconic moments within this season. Kirk Cousins is playing great. Everything that we've talked about, we can just leave aside and bring back up in the playoffs. You clinch the NFC North in week 15. You enjoy, you should enjoy the ride and enjoy the fact that when you sit down on Sunday or Saturday yesterday, you know that like whatever is going to happen, they're going
Starting point is 00:23:39 to entertain you because they've just like outside maybe the Cowboys blowout. Like every one of their Cowboys blowout and the Eagles blowout, every other one of their games has been objectively fun and weird and like compelling football. Yeah. They're pure chaos sometimes and they're very fun to watch and they are, they're very well coached too, which is why they win so many of these close games that they're in. They've got crazy shit that happens to them all the time. If it was any other team, we would be talking about how much we love watching this team
Starting point is 00:24:06 play football. So I think it's time to just like start to admit, I really enjoy watching the Vikings play football as, as painful as that is for me to admit right now. They are chaos. They are chaos. They're fun. In the last five seasons, teams are 0 and 99 when they're trailing by 20 or more points in the first half.
Starting point is 00:24:25 The Vikings have two wins now this season where they've been able to come back from that. They are, they're built to come from behind somehow. And Kirk Cousins, the biggest comeback that has happened since this one was 2015 when they were down 23 plus, or I guess maybe not including playoffs because of 28 to 3. Sorry, Matt Ryan. Yeah. But regular season, Kirk Cousins came back from 23.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So like he's just doing the Bills game. Like you can just name all these games where it's like the Vikings play fun games. I also halfway through, maybe it was like at the end of the third quarter, I just got this vibe that the Vikings were going to win that game. Yeah. It felt like everything was in their momentum. Yeah. Betting live lines.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We were betting live. It was, it was insane. And I just have to admit, I like the Vikings and that gave big time start of the championship DVD vibes. Oh yeah. Where they come back, the historic comeback in a standalone game. And I wasn't sure if it was like a Saturday one PM game, if that counts as the new nightmare for Kirk Cousins and his stats, because it is like a standalone position where everybody's
Starting point is 00:25:29 watching him. I'm going to count that as a prime time game. Yeah. Saturday one PM. I'm counting as a prime time game. It was a clutch performance. It is, it does feel like this. I'm a little bit scared that it could be the start of a championship DVD moment for the
Starting point is 00:25:43 Minnesota Vikings. But it's, it's, I, I'm not, and I, again, I'm not going to bring that conversation up because we can have that in January and I won't, it's enjoy the ride. Cause again, if you, if you are only in watching sports, it's like, it's a failure of a season. If you don't win a championship, you're just watching failure all the time. Like the moments that you have with your friends and family enjoy, like if you were a Vikings fan who was at that game or maybe at a bar or with family or friends on Saturday, that's a game you'll talk about for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:26:17 So that's something like you can't, I would never take that away from them. And I don't want to because that's a whole joy of sports. So Vikings fans like have fun, have fun. We can, we'll table the conversation until January. I'm done. I'm done having the same conversation. Have fun. Enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And who knows? You, like you said, start of the DVD, this team makes no sense. No. So at this point, kind of all bets are off with making sense. Like I, I don't think that they could beat some of the NFC teams, but I also think that maybe if they're down 20 points, they'll fucking find a way to come back and win them. We'll all be shocked again. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And as for Jeff Saturday, I think he said when he got hired, I think he said like, you know, we're going to find out. It's going to be one of the hardest things I've ever done. I'm going to give it my all and we'll find out, you know, it might not work out for me. It might be very apparent that I'm not cut out to do this sort of thing. Yep. I think that's, that's probably what we're looking at right now, Jeff. I wish we could get a live stream of the conversation that Jim Erse and Jeff Saturday have when Jim
Starting point is 00:27:12 Erse has to tell him he's going in a different direction because there will be so many tears. Well, that's it. Well, it's probably man hugs, tears. They're probably going to hug and then sit like they're going to hug goodbye and then sit back down and do another like hour and a half of crying. I hope it's going to be Jim Erse pulling up on a golf cart, ripping a heater and just being like, Jeff, hop in, go on a little cruise around a golf course, fire him around the ninth green and then, and then they'll have enough time to cry, make up and get back together
Starting point is 00:27:39 by the time they get back to the first team. Yes. Yeah. Colts, be embarrassed. I mean, that's, it's like the reverse of everything we said about the fun of the Vikings. The Colts season has been pure, unadulterated torture because they're the opposite. Not only are they on the wrong side of 33-0, but their games are objectively not fun and terrible to watch and painful.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Good news for them. They probably get Ryan Tannehill as their quarterback next year. Yeah. That seems like I've been keeping like a list in my mind of the most Colts like quarterbacks coming up for the next season. I feel like Ryan Tannehill has got to be the guy. Yeah. Just by vibes.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Derek, Derek Carr would be the dream scenario for them. Derek Carr. Ryan Tannehill is what they're going to end up with. Derek Carr needs like two more years of heartbreaking losses to really make sure that all the joy is sucked out of him first and then he can move over to Andy. Yes. All right. Next up.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So we did have this sandwich on Saturday where it was great football game, compelling football game and then a night game that was compelling football game, great football game and then Browns and Ravens in between, which was a nice breather because I was able to like keep my eye on it like halfway. I was doing, you know, like all family stuff and I was like, yeah, this game sucks. The only thing I have coming out of this game, so Browns went 13 to three. Why did we think Tyler Huntley was good? He had a nice stretch last year, but it was two seasons ago.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I think, no, it was, he won, he beat the Bears and I look back, he's two and five as a starter and he has three touchdowns and six interceptions. But even going into this game on Saturday, I was like, Tyler Huntley, watch out. Yeah. Why did we do that? Because Greg Roman runs the same offense with him as he does with Lamar Jackson. And he's just way shittier than Lamar and he's way, way worse than Lamar. Well, like probably better, better bowels.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So in a way like less shitty than Lamar. But in terms of like his speed has changed the direction, his knack of just knowing where to be at all times and when to make those cuts, he doesn't, he seems like he's panicking every time he runs the ball and Lamar, when he's doing these design runs, almost feels like he's like in slow mo a little bit, knowing where the holes are going to be. And then just kind of like gliding through them. He goes super fast, but he looks like he's going slow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Huntley just like gets the ball, panics and sprints. Yeah. And it was that interception when they were like, the Ravens flirted with being in this game a few times, that interception to start the third quarter was just all time bad. Yeah. Like the best part about this game was just being able to see Cleveland is a quintessential like Christmas football city where it's just they're not good, but the stands are packed. Everyone's drunk out of their mind, wearing like some type of Christmas, maybe a Santa
Starting point is 00:30:20 hat, maybe no shirt. I just like the crowd shots in Cleveland just never disappoint. They're great. And shout out that dude that was just swearing back and forth a couple of weeks ago, the dude that was like straight up TKO'd on his feet just from light beer. That guy that that's what I think of when I think of like a person that is a mainstay commenter on like the Browns reddit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:39 That's that dude. No, not not. He's been kicked off. Yeah. No, he right now he got into he got into a fight with the moderator of Reddit. I was going to say he just I don't think he even goes online. I think he's just a call in maybe right into the newspaper guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Letters to the editor. Yeah. Fire everybody. You saw the follow up of that guy where they tracked him through the years. Yeah. He should be the Browns master. It was a hell of a time lapse. He should be at midfield instead of that elf that they have there.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I'm just swaying back and forth. They had it was a grapple game. Yep. Gropled the term that we learned a couple of years ago where it's like ice, snow, sleet. Basically just gray stuff falling from the sky, which is perfect Cleveland. Perfect Cleveland. And watching this game. And I noticed a little bit of this last week with Ravens to JK Dobbins is very much hurt.
Starting point is 00:31:26 He's very injured. Have you seen his knee? I haven't seen his knee. Yeah. When you when you watch him run, I've never seen a person like limp and sprint at the same time. And he's still pretty fast. But you can tell.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh, yeah. He's he's limping as he's running down the field. He is like, you should not be in the game right now, but he's still running past. I think he had like 13 carries for 120 yards, which is insane because like the dude was limping with the football for the entire game. He had that. He had that one where he broke free and just had no getaway speed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And he says that 20 yards down the line, he's like, nope, this isn't going to work. Yeah. I just get tackled right here. So his knee. He used to be fast as shit too. Look at his knee. Look at this. It's I mean, it must be something.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Maybe we'll have to have bro football doc over here, explain it to us, but he's got like two little aliens protruding from his knee. No, that's what that is. Oh, I actually do know what those are. Yeah. When you get a meniscus surgery, yeah, you get two holes when I got it and those look pretty inflamed. It's scar tissue.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's gross. I actually, you're supposed to like massage it out using the right city for that. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to like, he had a couple of times the last few weeks where he broke free and pretty much any running back in the NFL score easily. And he almost looks like he's a car that he gets to like third gear and he tries to go back, go up to fourth and fifth and is just not.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And that's when like the smoke starts coming out of the tailpipe. Yeah. Just watching him run with it's like painful. But still, I think he's probably running like a 4840 on one leg. Yeah. Which is crazy. Also, is Justin Tucker washed? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 He's washed big time. Well, his first time since 2013 that he went under 500 with kicks, more than two attempts. Yeah. So he's one for three. One was blocked. Yeah. The one that he missed to the left, though, that was pretty bad. People are asking if he's washed.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I think he might be washed. It's so funny watching him when he misses a kick because he like looks down at the ball than up at the uprights. Like reality has deceived him. Like he cannot believe that this has happened. He's also a perfect example of advice we've always given out that you never ever want to be like exceptional at anything because then people expect that from you. And then when you're average, everyone's like, what's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:33:36 Are you washed? Like he missed he missed the kick and got a kick blocked. That happens to every kicker in the NFL. But when it happens to Justin Tucker, you're like, is he is it over for him because he's been that good. So never raise the bar for yourself because then people will just be like, are you are you done when you have one bad performer being the second best at anything is actually the best that you like the fourth or fifth, fourth, just fly into the radar a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah. Speaking, someone's best, but not everyone's best. Yeah. Speaking of just watching people go through painful situations. I want to check in with Hank because I'm worried about him. You looked like you were crying, Hank, are you okay? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Do you want to take back the fact that you tried to claim that this was scripted? What? P.M.T. Rigged, you said. Yeah. That's what it feels like. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Oh, it feels like a big giant set up on you. Yeah. Hank thinks that we made this whole thing up and we have like a very hyper realistic video simulation playing. All right. That showed the end of that game. All right. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:34:37 No one else gets to guess this counts. Go ahead. I'll show you that we're in we're in the real life. Guess, guess, guess, guess, 55. This shows you that we're in real life. This is not rigged. This is your inception totem that you know that we're still here, 49, not even close. You still suck at this.
Starting point is 00:34:55 So there you go. Are you back to reality? Is that count for the official? Yeah. That counts for the official. We don't guess, but I want to, I mean, Hank had to prove that like your exception totem. That's so fucked up. It's your exception totem.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Like every time you think that this is all a dream, just guess it and be wrong and be like, nope. I'm, this is my life. I think Bill Belichick might quit. I do. He might, he might murder several players like I don't know that he can like that's that's going to be one that I don't know that he can that that that play happens for the Patriots. It never happens against the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:35:29 That's a power. I guess the, the dolphins run back when Gronk was like, that was a bad one. But like for the most part, the other teams make the mistake. This is mostly, this is such an unforced error though. Like the, the dolphins play that they had the miracle in Miami. That was just a matter of overthinking that was overthinking a little bit and also like sometimes teams find angles and those weird plays and they can beat you to the outside. It happens occasionally.
Starting point is 00:35:53 This was like completely self-inflicted. They felt just going to go to press conference like, uh, like what's that guy bud Dwyer. He's going to have a manila envelope and be like step back. Everyone step back. No, no, no, no, you don't know why they want to get hurt here. Shoot himself. Yeah, that, I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be a long off season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Oh, this scene is not over. You still got a chance. Yeah. You're still sniffing around Hank. Don't do that to yourself. Yeah. No season. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Uh, all right. Let's, let's go to the AFC East, Bill's 32 dolphins 29. This game was so much fun. Yeah. This was the quintessential like, I'm going to sit on the couch. I'm going to turn up the volume. I'm going to soak myself in one game, the snow coming in the second half, the fact that like the snow arrived and Josh Allen was like, fuck everyone, I'm just winning
Starting point is 00:36:48 this game. The lake woke up. Yeah. And everything just kind of happened that, that like, I think it was like a 40, 44 yard run that he had when they were down 29, 21, he's like, fuck everyone, I'll just do this shit myself. Uh, was, it was just an awesome, awesome game. We had the snowballs, we had the refs telling the, the great people of Buffalo, New York
Starting point is 00:37:09 to please stop, which made me laugh so hard. Like the saying, please stop. It's not going to work. Yeah. It's not going to work. I just want to say, I, people were like scumbag bill. I defend Buffalo in this fact. Oh, dude, it's snowing.
Starting point is 00:37:21 You got, you have snowballs. It was funny. They were like showing a camera angle of around the stadium and, uh, there were fans that just had like piles of snowballs in reserves sitting in front of them, ready to go. And it says, please stop throwing snowballs on the field. They're not going to do that. They're not going to do that shit. They're Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And someone, someone replied to one of my tweets, it was, it was the perfect analogy. He's like, it'd be like putting a full beer under everyone's seat before the game and being like, please don't drink it. Yeah. You just had snow sitting underneath you and you're like, don't do anything with this. You're giving everybody toys and saying, please don't play with these awesome toys. Mike McDaniel is kind of a snitch to be like, isn't this a penalty? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Although I would have done the same. So you're just trying to get any edge. It's one thing to do it when they're in the red zone, throwing it at the player. You hated it. Bad sportsmanship. Well, here's the thing. Buffalo. We love Bill's Mafia on the show.
Starting point is 00:38:10 If it was any other fan base, people would have been ripping those fans, but because it's Buffalo. Oh, they're so fun and exciting, they get away with it. So you were upset. Yeah, you're very bad. I mean, like you sound like this is the most upset I've ever heard. Wait, wait, Jake. I thought good sports sound mover, bad sports sound move.
Starting point is 00:38:25 It's Buffalo. It's the most. They've a longer leash. This is the most upset I've ever heard. I thought going into this game, Miami was saying like we wish it was colder. Yeah. Be very careful. To the fingers.
Starting point is 00:38:35 To the two fingers to you. Oh, by the way, I had never mind. What? No, say it. Say it. Speak your mind. Yeah. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Go off. Let's just say I have January 8th circle. Okay. All right. Wow. Watch out. Well, Billy has January 6th circle. Yeah, we knew that.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah. Jake, you said that you were going to eliminate them. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The shaping out to be that flex on the night game. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So I actually think the dolphins. Do you want to call it? The dolphins off of the terrible West Coast trip they had. They looked pretty good. Yeah. Like they were in this game. The dolphins were good. The tool was better.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Better. Yeah. They definitely don't look like they're broken. Yeah. And a couple of weeks ago, you could ask the question like after the Chargers game, after the Niners game, like are they broken? Right. Is this a team that needs to change things drastically?
Starting point is 00:39:25 I think they're fine. They'll be okay. You just can't go to Buffalo and like ask people to not throw snowballs at you in the middle of like nine inches of pain. Right. So I mean you're lucky that they weren't dildos. You're lucky it was just straight up precipitation. I was wondering this might be a dumb question.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Maybe we can get Mike Pereira on the case. If you are a defensive player, are you allowed to throw snowballs at people in the middle of the play? Ooh. That would be cool. Like could you throw it at the quarterback if two would drop back in the pocket and you know that you're not going to reach two and be able to sacrum? Could you get a snowball together and just fucking whip one at him from seven yards away
Starting point is 00:40:02 and hit him in the face? Stop them like that. They said they were going to assess the bills of 15-yard penalty if snowballs kept falling, which they didn't and they ignored that. But what if it was a Dolphins fan who threw it? True. It was a false flag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Because there were some in the front row I saw. You're right, Jake. If the Dolphins fans threw it, I think the bills would have gotten penalized. Yeah. Right. Defaults to the home team crowd. Yeah. George Soros was, he was paying Dolphins fans to put on Zubas and get into the stands and
Starting point is 00:40:31 jump through tables before the game. It's deeper than you could ever imagine. It's a good point. It's a great point. Would you think before a play, because defensive players can move before this ball snap, you could throw a snowball at the quarterback's face? That's what I'm saying. Like I don't know what the rules are about precipitation.
Starting point is 00:40:49 If a pass is in the air, could you like hook one at a wide receiver before they catch it? I guess you could use props just because they use gloves and like towels. It's like the last boy scouts. Yeah. It's like a gun. Yeah. Like the rule book says you can't have a gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:03 The cameraman just getting pelted. Yeah. Because they're all like on that little cherry picker right in front and they just were getting smoked by them. But true or false, if this was in Philly and they were throwing, everyone would not be like, ha, ha. Oh, that's so cute. Oh, Philly's gotten brought in.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So I was going to say, I was at the snowball, like the Eagles line snowball back in whenever that was. When you guys pelted, when you pelted Santa? No, not that. That was a different time. That was like the Shady McCoy game when they were playing in like a foot of snow. Yeah. 2014.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah. When was the battery? You guys threw batteries, right? Whatever. Did you throw batteries at Santa Claus? And now wait, this isn't the game that Michael Irvin almost got paralyzed. I'm trying to give a nice little anecdote about the game. What will it call his mom?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Oh, no, no, no. Jit Lupus. This is the game where that like a 17 year old kid puked on that 11 year old girl. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:41:58 There were snowballs during that game, for sure. There were fans and players of the other team throwing snowballs at each other. The players were throwing snowballs at the fans in between plays. But I don't know. It just wasn't talked about. Yeah. I think the refs just didn't say anything. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I think it's... Well, the Mike McDaniel complained and then the ref said something. Yeah. Eventually. Yeah. Because it may have affected that Reds on the drive. It's good home field advantage, though. It is.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Right. You got to make the refs call it, you know? Yeah. It's just like how the Patriots used to do against the Colts in the playoffs. Just interfere with them, hold on every play, and make the refs call it on you. That's what the fans did. So, shout out Buffalo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:41 See, that's what I'm saying, though. The fans made a difference. Any other fan base does that. Shout out. No, no, no, Jake, you're... No, your bias is showing. I think... You think Jacoby Myers and Chandler Jones are friends?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Not anymore. Like you think that had anything to do with it? Not anymore. You want to make sure you got one last thing? No, or maybe he just was like flashback. Do you think Chandler Jones did that? He recognized it from the locker room. He was like, oh, there's Chandler.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I'm looking. Do you think Chandler Jones did that thing that you could do in pick up hoops when you're playing with random people? Oh, yeah. And you just stand off the side. You're like, pass it here. Yeah. And you just throw it to the wrong guy.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah. Like, yo. Yeah. Like, oh, here, open. So, Jacoby Myers said that the plan was to run the ball and go into overtime, said he was trying to be a hero. Yeah. I thought I saw Mac Jones open.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah. Exactly. So that's a big question. That's what I was saying, like, number one, what is Chandler doing back there defending Mac Jones? Number two, why is the ball going to Mac Jones? Yeah. Makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I think when that first dump-off happened, it just like the first guy doing a lateral. Yeah, Modric just went down. If that was crazy. Once there's a lateral, then I think everyone's like. They never played together. Oh, we're doing laterals. I actually do think that if it was any other fan base, it would just be like, oh, we're going to be fine with the snowballs, except if it was the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:43:59 If it was Patriots fans, people would flip the fuck out. Well, no, now I think they're allowed to. Ah, Cowboys fans. Yeah, but I mean, like, when is it going to snow? Yeah, Packers fans are going to put it in jail. If it was Packers fans, people would have been like, this is how whimsical. No, this is such a fun thing. No, Patriots are done with their respectful.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I would have called the National Guard. Beat the Dolphins 2004 season. It was like late in the season, they won a snow game, and everyone was just throwing the snow in the air. Yeah, you could throw it in the air. Yeah, no, I know. We have respect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Just right. I'm kind of on your side in this. I'm saying if it was you as a Patriots fan that was throwing snowballs onto the field, we would never do that, though. I'm saying if you did, though, Hank, won't let me make you lose a heartbreaking loss and now you're super spicy and you're pissing me off. You're super spicy. So I'm trying to tiptoe around it because I love Bill's mafia.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Wingnuts is the best. But no, you haven't tiptoed around it again. You mad. I did not say one thing. I'm not the Bill's fan. This is as close to a freak out as you've ever had. Yeah, you're freaking out. You mad.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Big mad. It's OK. No, no, it's OK. Jake, this is what's beautiful about sports. You always bury your mad deep down inside, and then it comes down different ways like stepping over your co-workers. But if you feel free to just let that hate flow a little bit, you've made… I don't hate anyone.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Oh, you hate the Jets fans and hate the Bill's fans. The Bill's fans, yeah. No, you do. No, I love Bill's fans. No, no, you don't. It's OK. You definitely don't. Your most mad is like the most respectful mad of all time.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah. But yeah, this game was awesome. Josh Allen, that sequence, when they're down 29-21 and he goes the long run and then he does the like Air Jordan almost like it's from Space Jam. You know what that was? That was his big hands. We tried to tell you at draftrashallon.com, big hands. Also, terrible job by the NFL Network going to replay or going to commercial without
Starting point is 00:45:47 giving us a replay. Yeah. And then they just came back with like the two point conversions, good. You broke the plan. Yeah. But the Bill's clinched the… did they clinch the playoffs or the AFCEs? I think they clinched the AFCEs, right? I think they've clinched the AFCEs now.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It was just one of those beautiful, beautiful games, the perfect amount of snow. Now they're going to be playing for home field, which is going to make a big difference because you do have fans that will throw snowballs. Yeah. And you saw what it's like to play in Buffalo in late December. It's not fun. No division yet. No division yet.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Three up on the Dolphins, three less, I guess, if the Dolphins went out because that would get two more division wins, Dolphins are the Patriots and the Jets. It is crazy. I think this is the Bill's… is it the fourth straight year they're going to the playoffs? Yeah. Remember a time not too long ago, what was it, 2016 maybe, that they were the last team to get into the playoffs in the 21st century? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:37 When Andy Dalton came back and beat the Ravens and then Bill's Mafia donated a shitload of money to the Andy Dalton Foundation. It's crazy to think of how far they have come with Josh Allen and the franchise, like to be back in the playoffs for four straight years, Super Bowl favorites, all this stuff. And also Sean McDermott. Sean McDermott turned the culture around. He was the original like ping pong table out of the locker room guy. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And then he put it back in. He also got into that skirmish. Do you see him jump in right away? There was a late hit on Josh Allen and then everyone was jarring at each other and Sean McDermott was like right in the middle of everyone instantly. That's the type of coach you want. He's right at eye like I've long said that he's one of the coaches that could probably take any other coach in a battle royale.
Starting point is 00:47:18 That's a fact. So Josh Allen lasts that from this game. He's the second QB only behind Patrick Holmes to have 50 plus wins and 130 pass touchdowns in his first five seasons. Pretty good. Pretty good company. Yep. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah. So this in some of his throws, he's just so much fun to watch. I know that people get upset that we like gosh over Josh Allen and I know people get upset that like we ride for the bills. I'll be honest. Like I love the city of Buffalo. If Josh Allen wasn't on the bills, I probably wouldn't have the same feelings about the bills.
Starting point is 00:47:50 He's our best friend. So I'm going to ride for him. I might because he's that fun to watch. No, I'm saying if he wasn't on the bills. Yeah. Yeah. No, I wouldn't ride. No, I'm saying I would ride just as equally as hard for Josh Allen if he wasn't on the
Starting point is 00:48:02 bills. Correct. No, I'm saying if he wasn't on the bills, I wouldn't ride as hard for the bills. Got you. Like part of my riding for the the majority of my riding for the bills is riding for Josh Allen. I'd say the majority of mine is like I just I respect the city of Buffalo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I like them. But with Josh Allen, it's like pouring pouring diesel gas on two fire. Also crazy. I don't really respect the city of Buffalo, but I like Josh Allen so much that it really makes it like a neutral. It's hard for you. Like I don't like that. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I don't like that. No, you don't. No, you don't. Jake hates New York. And he hates Buffalo. I love it. Jake wants to drop a nuclear weapon on Buffalo. No.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Just what he said to me out there. A dirty bomb. Yeah. Just gas him out. That's what I want to do. All right. Let's go to the next. I can't wait for Jake to develop a rivalry against Patriots fans, too.
Starting point is 00:48:46 You're going one by one through the division. It's when you have a good team, when you're playing, we're fighting for the playoffs. Yeah. Everyone starts to like even even my affinity towards the Lions right now, like that wouldn't happen if the if the Bears were even competent. You know what I mean? It's just when you have a terrible team and there's another terrible franchise in your division and they're having a good season.
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Starting point is 00:49:59 app. Visit SiriusXM.com slash part of my take offer to sign up. Offer details. Apply SiriusXM.com slash part in my take offer to sign up. Okay, Jags 40, Cowboys 34. I want to talk about the Jags, but I first want to say you did it again, Cowboys. Yep. You fucking did it again.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You've been saying it. I've been thinking it. They did it again for, I don't know, the 30th year in a row. The Cowboys had everyone thinking, watch out for these Cowboys. Watch out for this team. And they just like set up 17 to the Jaguars. We thinking they're a Super Bowl contender. They still probably are, but the flaws are starting to cracks are starting to show.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Stephen A. Smith is starting to do his, his like maniacal laugh on Twitter at Cowboys fans. Dak has thrown nine picks in the last six games. It's all showing. Dak Prescott has the highest interception percentage in the NFL right now. And he might, does he lead the league in picks overall? I don't think, I think that might be Josh Allen. Okay, let's just ignore that stat. Yup.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Dak Prescott sucks. Snipe it from the record. He sucks. He sucks. And he's, he's just going to continue to be a quarterback. I think that's like turbo Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Where it's like, he's, he's got buzz, more buzz about him than Kirk does.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Like he, his ceiling, I think is like superstar when he's playing really, really well. But then that glosses over all the stuff that he does that just like will actually beat your team. Now, the interception that he had over time was not his fault that was off his receiver's hands. It was. And then caught and returned for a touchdown. But I, I felt myself getting drawn back in to Dak in the last like two, three weeks. And I just need to tear the bandaid off and just remind myself like, don't do not trust in him. It was a good reminder because remember last year when I put a Super Bowl future on them,
Starting point is 00:51:59 I was thinking this year, like they're kind of scary. No, you know what? They're fine. It's, it's, it's fine. They are going to, they're going to do something to fuck themselves over. If they get Odell, I might be back in. I mean, if he's healthy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Odell and TY Hilton. Yeah. They, they had a spot. They had a chance to beat being up 17 and then you have a chance to play the Eagles. And if you beat the Eagles on Christmas Eve, you have a chance for the one seed and it just all falls apart for them. They're probably going to basically guarantee to be the fifth seed now unless all hell breaks loose.
Starting point is 00:52:36 And that's just the Cowboys. They're going to have to go on the road in the first game, probably play Tom Brady. And we'll have another year where there was a stretch in the season where we're like, watch out for the Cowboys. They're back and they weren't Doug Peterson. Shout out helping out his old Eagles. Yeah. This is a big game for Eagles fans.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Eagles really won this game. The Jaguars played outstanding at times on defense. Ray Sean Jenkins. He had 18 tackles, two interceptions, two passes defended and the walkoff pick six. That's about as good a game as you can have for a defensive player. Yeah. Things are looking up in Jacksonville. If you're a Jaguars fan, if you're jagging off big time, you're happy with Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:53:22 He looked great again today. Four touchdowns. The first Jags quarterback to throw over four touchdowns since. Like Bortles. Like Bortles. He's ascending. Like he is. He's exactly what you want out of a second year guy where it looks like the last, I don't
Starting point is 00:53:37 know. The last, they did get kind of clowned by the Lions when he got maimed and looked like he was out for a lifetime and then he came back like two plays later. But they've been, they've been beating good teams. They beat the Ravens. They beat the Titans. I don't know if the Titans are still considered a good team and they beat the Cowboys. Like they're playing against good teams.
Starting point is 00:53:56 He's playing well. He's taking the steps forward. And it's, I think that if you look at the, what is it? One draft. 2020 draft. 2021. 2020. Whatever draft that was.
Starting point is 00:54:10 2020. He was the first pick. Zach Wilson was second. Yeah. 2021. Yeah. 2021. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah. You're right. Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance. Fields. Fields, Matt Jones. Matt Jones. Trevor Lawrence is the best like quarterback in, in the hole right now. I would take.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And he was the first pick. I would take fields. I mean, I would too. I honestly would. But I'm just being honest that his Trevor Lawrence is throwing has been leaps in and bounds ahead of where Justin Fields is right now. Yeah. But I think Justin Fields would get better.
Starting point is 00:54:43 But like he was the like, you can't miss prospect. Andrew Luck guy type of guy, Peyton Manning. And now you're starting to actually see it. You're actually starting to be like, okay, now I get it. He is that guy. And the Jaguars all of a sudden are very much live for the AFC South because the Titans lost. So the Titans are now seven and seven Jaguars were six and eight.
Starting point is 00:55:07 The Titans still have to play the Cowboys. They both have a game against the Texans and they play week 18. If the Jaguars run the table, they're going to be in the playoffs. Yeah. So week 18, that's going to be an awesome one. Yes. It could be for all the marvels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I love that. That's where your brain goes immediately. It's like, let's think of the networks. You just need the Titans to lose one more and the Jags have to have to either win out or they can only lose one more and you in week 18 becomes all the marbles. How soon are we going to get Urban Meyer going on TV or some sort of press thing where he like tries to take some credit for building this Jaguar? He gets credit for being such a dickhead that they were so glad when he got fired that
Starting point is 00:55:44 they rallied together. It's basically like adopting a dog. Yeah. And the dog just loves you because you're not hitting it in the snout with a newspaper every day like Urban Meyer. Yeah. So Peterson is the rescue. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:55 The rescue family. Yes. The dog is just, the dog actually probably, you could actually look at it in like the first month of the Jaguar season where they were kind of up and down. That was the portion of the rescue dog where, like I know when I rescued Stella, there was like a month where she's like, am I really staying? Like is this real? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And then gets comfortable and be like, okay, cool, like now we have a bond. So then they were like, hey, wait, you aren't going to kick people and finger buttholes? Yeah. Like it has to unlearn some of those habits. Yeah. And you can tell sometimes like their behaviors, their actions, what their last owner was like. So when they come over and they're not smelling Doug Peterson's hands, that's just because they've been scarred before.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Yes. It's through no fault of their own. Still to this day, I've had Stella for 11 years now. If I drop my keys, she like jumps. I don't know what happened in her past life, but yeah, that's like a trigger. And so when like, Doug Peterson goes over to talk to the kicker and like maybe holds his foot back for a second, everyone on the team is like, Oh, is he going to kick him again?
Starting point is 00:56:51 Yeah. No, it's okay. But now they're safe. Yeah. And they're playing good football. And I think that I think at some point, Urban Meyer will be like, you know, I had a lot to do with building this team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:59 The fingerprints are on it a little bit. He could just say, do as, do as I, or no, it's do as I say, not as I do. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's, that's. Yeah, that's exactly what I did. That Urban Meyer should have that tattooed on his arm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Do as I say, not as I do. Like honestly, like if you just did what Urban Meyer said and throughout the entire basis of his character, yes, you would probably be a great football team. Yes. All the time. Yes. So, uh, yeah, the Jaguars are playing good. And now they play the Jets on Thursday night football.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Who would have thought this was the ultimate throwaway. Every team has to have a standalone game. And now we actually have a game where both teams are fighting for their playoff spot. If it's a loser leaves town because if either team loses, they're going to be really big trouble trying to get into the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. So, the Jets went from being like one of the best, one of the most dynamic in the league
Starting point is 00:57:46 to being one of the shittiest. They're dealing with a lot of injuries. They have a lot of injuries. A ton of injuries. But the Cowboys are the only team that gets hurt. Yep. That's just a fact. If anybody tries to talk to you about like the Cowboys maybe getting lucky, uh, earlier
Starting point is 00:57:58 in the season or whatever, just tell them like the Cowboys are the only team that suffers from injuries. They're the only ones that can make that excuse. They are so shitty right now. They've given up 63 points back to back weeks against the Texans and the Jaguars. Yikes. The Texans and the Jaguars. So, to compare that, the 49ers have allowed 63 points in their last six games combined.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Whoa. So, they're pretty, they're pretty bad. Things are pretty bad in Dallas right now. They're not on the same, they're not, yeah, they're not on the same tier when we talk about Super Bowl contenders. I actually would like to do, I think I'm going to maybe go back, maybe a Cowboys fan, a die-hard Cowboys fan is a listener of the show, can maybe go back and like pick each week for the last 20 seasons where like your quote-unquote Super Bowl, where you peaked, like the Colts
Starting point is 00:58:47 this season, that Sunday night game, that was the peak of the Cowboys. That's where Jerry Jones is like, finally, my team's going to win another Super Bowl because it happens almost every year. Like there's been a couple of years where they've had a ton of injuries and they've been absolute dog shit, but for the most part, there's one or two weeks a season where everyone buys back into the Cowboys only to have them. They're no different than Notre Dame football or Texas football, where everyone wants kind of, it's interesting if the Cowboys get back in the mix and then something like this happens.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I mean, they've got, so Dak when he plays well is awesome. They've got great wide receivers, they've got two good running backs, and in theory they should have a good offensive line too. So like I don't really see, it's tough to see what the weakness is, they just have bad vibes together sometimes. Big time bad vibes. They're an all-time bad vibes team, I don't know what it is about the organization, but just in general, even when they're good, they're like, they're like hyper competitive with
Starting point is 00:59:42 each other. And I almost get the sense like there's some jealousy behind the scenes sometimes between their star players, depending on whose time it is to get that big contract from Jerry and who Jerry likes the most at any given moment. I just, I get bad vibes, like they're not, they're not a team team. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's a perfect way to put it together where it's like maybe Tony Pollard's pissed because
Starting point is 01:00:04 he's about to get paid. Yeah, exactly. He's like, well, I still want to get paid. Yeah. All right, next up, Lions 20 Jets 17. The Lions are good. The Lions are good. The Jets, Zach Wilson, we found out, I think it was Thursday night, Friday morning that
Starting point is 01:00:19 he was back in, reports were that Mike White went to like 10 doctors to try to get cleared. Ultimate football guy. Yeah. Didn't get cleared. I think the Jets might have won this game with Mike White, but the Lions still come up big fourth, that fourth an inches play where they get the tight end open. He runs 50 yards for a touchdown and then we got to watch Robert Salah. One of the worst clock management's I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:00:45 The Jets got the ball back. They're down three with a minute and like 50 seconds left, all three timeouts. He didn't use his first time out till there was 19 seconds left. Yeah, it was so bad. That was a moment where everybody was just screaming at the TV. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Timeout, timeout, timeout. We ended the next game with four timeouts in the first half and he ended up with one timeout in his pocket. I do think that you should be able to carry him over. Yes. That would be awesome if you could actually collect him. So here's a fun stat, big cat. You ready for this?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Yes. Okay, fewest games needed to reach 25,000 passing yards in NFL history. Number one, Matt Stafford. That's pretty impressive. I did not realize that. Yeah. Number two, Dan Marino with 92 games. And tied for third, it's Peyton Manning, Kurt Warner, and Hoompst and Jared Goff at 97,
Starting point is 01:01:36 97 games. So Jared has had a great season. Bounce back. Come back player of the year, Jared Goff. Yeah. I also think, I saw the stat, I think it's, Jared Goff is something like 49 and like 34 when his coach is not Jeff Fisher or John Fossil. So basically like if he has a somewhat kind, we love Jeff Fisher, but at the end it wasn't
Starting point is 01:02:01 great. He's been a great, he's been a very good quarterback. Yeah. I know that he got cast aside in LA. They don't regret that they won a Super Bowl, but I'm just happy that Jared Goff has found a place in Detroit where he's playing awesome football and they're seven and seven. And they're fun. They're seven and seven.
Starting point is 01:02:17 They've covered six straight games for the first time since the Super Bowl happened, since the Super Bowl was invented. They are a fun team. They're winning games, all types of ways. They beat a good defense on the road. They beat a very good defense. They also smartly, Jared Goff, probably the best thing he did all day, he threw at Sauce Gardner exactly zero times, zero targets to Sauce Gardner today.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And yeah, now the Lions have at the Panthers versus the Bears and at the Packers. I mean, if they were on the table, they're in and they might even be able to catch one more loss. It's crazy to think that they were one and six. Yeah. They could break their way and they could even get in if they did lose one of the last three games. But I'm rooting for the Lions to get in there.
Starting point is 01:03:02 They're fun. Jared's playing as good as he's played in years. Their offensive line is humming right now. Taylor Decker didn't have any false start penalties today that I shout out our guy that I saw. They're just they're fun, man. And Dan Campbell is doing a great job. He does get one of our coach of the year votes, which has been split like nine different
Starting point is 01:03:23 ways. Absolutely. And Dan Campbell is definitely on that list. Doug Peterson should get one too. He'll get one too. Yeah. So we throw him in there. Billy, what were your thoughts on the game?
Starting point is 01:03:32 Oh, one last thing about Zach Wilson and you can you can take it away from there. Zach Wilson, if they just called his pro day play every single play, he would be a great quarterback because he did have his it was identical pro day play for a like 50 yard touchdown to Zama. But when Zach Wilson has to stand in the pocket and be an actual quarterback, it did not look good. He actually threw. There was one pass he had.
Starting point is 01:03:59 He had a really bad interception. There was also a pass where it was so bad on a slant. It was so bad that the cornerback couldn't intercept it because it was behind the cornerback as well. Yeah. Like every time he's just standing in the pocket, it just looks terrible. He I mean, as you saw, he does make some good off platform throws, but I think that is his huge strength and that's it.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That's his only strength. Yeah. Right. Roll out, guys open downfield, sling it. Mike White, he was quoted as saying, do I even need the doctor's permission to play? No, according to me, no. Yeah. He was like, why do I need your permission?
Starting point is 01:04:33 I kind of think that Mike White in the Jets doctors, I think someone from up top may have called that in and been like, oh, to give him because that really was the only way that Zach Wilson would get another start was Mike White getting hurt. Right. So I think it was the Jets doctors. Like I think he could have played and they're like, let's give Zach Wilson one more. He did. So Mike White on the sidelines did appear to be like rooting his ass off for Zach Wilson
Starting point is 01:04:56 for the Jets. He's a great dude. When that's when that's reversed, Zach Wilson, is he rooting probably like 25% as hard as Mike White? He's also much worse cheerleader than Mike White is what I'm getting at. Yeah. Mike White was getting hyped. But yeah, I mean, Zach Wilson didn't do enough to show that he might be the guy.
Starting point is 01:05:13 No, it just looks bad when he has to just play regular quarterback. Exactly. It's just, it just doesn't look great. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, is Mike White going to be healthy for Thursday night? I don't know. That's because all of stays in because the thing is, if they're like, hey, your ribs cracked, ribs don't heal in a week and he's still out, what exactly is going to happen?
Starting point is 01:05:35 So I mean, 317 yards, two touchdowns, one pick. I think Mike White is still QB UNO. Yeah. You guys have to win. You have to win. Like it's now. Never. Because now you're, I think, ninth in the playoff picture, the Patriots being eighth.
Starting point is 01:05:51 So. Speaking of the Patriots, Big Cat, I've got some breaking news here on the Patriots front. Breaking news. Breaking news. So they asked Bill Belichick. Breaking news. Hold on. Breaking news.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Come on, Hank. Come on, Hank. We all suck out. We all suck out. We all suck out. We all suck out. That wasn't breaking news before. Well, this is breaking news.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I can't trust you. Your partner. Playing your partner. Well, I know. Me and Big Cat are separate people. Yes, we actually are. We all suck up bad losses. We get it from the same house.
Starting point is 01:06:22 We get ourselves up. This house has been flagged. And we fight on. This house has been flagged. Okay. All right. So, Hank, here's the breaking news. Go do it.
Starting point is 01:06:30 There it is. There's my guy. They asked Bill Belichick, why didn't Mac Jones throw a Hail Mary on the final play? Do you know what Bill Belichick said? Oh, you do. You want to share the class? He said we can't throw it that far. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:52 So, I looked it up. It was 55 yards. I could have thrown that. Yes. Yes. You probably couldn't throw it 55 yards. Billy could throw it 55 yards. Back in the day.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah, yeah. Back in the day. Over these mountains? You see them over there? Fuck yeah. So, that's tough. That's tough. You can tell that he's eating at Belichick because he's being honest with the media.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yeah, no, that was a brutally honest, like, yeah, my guy doesn't have a strong arm. Yeah. Normally, Belichick's just like we take into account certain things. I also think that's just wrong. I think Mac Jones definitely can throw 55 yards. He absolutely can't. Probably not now after his shoulder got put through the crust of the earth by Chandler Jones.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah. Well, if it was 55 yards, the end zone is 10 yards, and you have to get it into the end zone. So, that's like an extra five to 10 yards. It's true. So, that's like more like a 60-yard bomb. That's true. I still think he probably could do it.
Starting point is 01:07:44 All right. So, anything else with the Jets? Yeah. I mean, Robert Salah. Tough. Tough. Tough look with the timeouts. I mean, honestly, there was a point I thought.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And the defense. Well, they lost because of the defensive breakdown. The defensive breakdown was very bad. They weren't playing with Quinn and Williams, who was probably their best defender. But that wasn't like, Quinn and Williams doesn't make that play off of, you know, a tight end who's basically gets lost in space. That was a sick play, though. It was like, what?
Starting point is 01:08:12 Second week in a row with a big dick, fourth at one. Yeah. I know. It's a great play call, too. Like, it seemed like the play had broken down in the middle of it. And it's like, wait, I love plays like that, where there's like a second half to the play, where you think it's over. It's like there's a false credit scene that happens after two seconds.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And it's like, oh, wait, there's outtakes afterwards. Right. And then they leak the tight end, hit them, and then no one could possibly tackle them. Yes. Yes. I mean, one return punt, like, without that, they wouldn't be in that situation. It was kind of fluky. It's just got to say, there was a point where the ability to return punt was because Dan
Starting point is 01:08:46 Campbell went for it on fourth and inches from the one yard line. They stopped them so they were pinned deep. It was actually perfect field position play. Yeah. I know. But the thing is, I actually, there was a second where I thought they were going to win. The Jets were going to win the game. And I was like, how is Zach Wilson, who's playing terrible football, getting more wins than a
Starting point is 01:09:04 guy like Mike White percentage wise? Yeah. And for a second, I was like, I literally think that Zach Wilson's play style may be easier for their defense to win in some weird way in my mind, where it's just like the long periods of the offensive extension of the drives that end up being bad kept the defense off the field for longer, whereas Mike White scores too quickly. Okay. That was my point.
Starting point is 01:09:31 I was like, how's he going to land this plane? Yeah. I mean, I, it is, I've told you this before, Billy, you guys are the 2018 Bears, maybe not now because you're now seven and seven. The Bears did win their division, but like that feeling of, well, we're five and two with this guy, but in the back of your head, you're like, but it's really not working. And it's not, he's, he's not what we think he is. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Next up, Eagles 25, Bears 20. All I have from this game is the Bears got an intercept. We're lively in this game, Frisky. They intercepted Jalen Hertz at the 25 yard line, the Eagles 25 yard line, and it ended it in a punt from the 31. That was very sad. Hard to do. Why do you punt ever from the 31 yard line?
Starting point is 01:10:17 I, I didn't know that was, I didn't know that was possible. It was. So a quick top of my head, Matt, that's a 48 yard field goal. Yeah. And you guys were like, no, thanks. We'd rather hear you take it. Yeah. I think we actually, they, we had to delay a game and then the Eagles declined it because
Starting point is 01:10:34 they're like, we don't want you to have more room to punt this. Yeah. So you had even more time to think about maybe we should kick a field goal. Yeah. Um, it's, we're in that very weird spot where like the tank is on big time, but you also get like confused in your brain is like, is Iberfluss a bad coach or is he actually a great coach? Cause he's doing the job of tank.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I actually think he's a great coach. That's tanking masterfully. Right. But these things make you question your sanity. I know, I know they do, but like they've got enough talent where I think that they could be winning these games. Uh, a lot of the close ones that they're losing, not to say that they were going to beat the Eagles today, even though it was not, as you said, 0.0 percent chance of winning.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I mean, Max was, I was yelling at Max all game, like the Bears were in this game. Yeah, they're in it. They're the Eagles look sloppy for a large portion of this game. They could have won it. The Bears aren't a bad football team and every week it's crazy. Every week Justin Fields does something that makes me wish that, that Madden was still good so I could go play as Justin Fields and Madden. He's the, uh, he's the third quarterback.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Ebert is surpassed a thousand yards rushing Lamar and Michael Vick being the other two. Yeah, it's crazy. And like he, he does belong in the conversation as those guys in terms of his running ability. And it's, it's also crazy considering the fact that they didn't run this offense for the first month of the season and they finally have let him go and he's like every, every game he has one wow run where there was one where it was like a 50 yard run where it almost looked like he scored a touchdown. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Uh, and he got, he got like ripped down almost from his, by his helmet was able to stay up so strong. But yeah, the, uh, I don't know, losses are good now. I was afraid that the Bears were going to win this game and fuck me over with the Eagles future, but the Eagles now essentially barring disaster are going to have the one seat because they have the tiebreaker rinse of Vikings, Cowboys have four losses, Niners have four losses. So pretty much all they have to do is win one of their last three and they have the
Starting point is 01:12:29 one seed locked up. Uh, Max, anything from this game? I mean, it was sloppy from the Eagles. Like Jalen Hurts had two interceptions in the first half. I think that if the bit like Tevin Jenkins going out made Justin Fields life, his life was at stake. That's how bad the offensive line looked. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:47 The Eagles D line was the only, was the only aspect that was like, okay, I have no problems with this at all from start to finish. Right. They were eating. There are three separate guys had multiple sacks and six times on 27 drop backs. That's not good. No, no. Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:03 And that's one thing that's just like the Eagles D line is our, is probably our biggest strength right now. Hurts looks sloppy in the beginning, but then he made some really nice plays. So it was nice to see him have a sloppy start and then come back and then look like a real really good quarterback again because he did in the second half make some like really nice deep balls. The Eagles have actually figured out perfectly how to execute the quarterback sneak and I'm not sure why other teams don't do it the same way.
Starting point is 01:13:27 It's unstoppable. You get two guys behind Jalen Hurts who already squats like 600 pounds to begin with. You give them the ball and then immediately you've got two guys just like grabbing his ass and hitting them forward, pushing them as hard as they can. Yeah. It's just a perfect, everything works so well with their quarterback sneak because they have the strongest quarterback, the best center in the league and then they have developed this kind of pushing system that it's, it's, I don't know if it's totally legal, but until
Starting point is 01:13:52 they call it, it is right? Well, yeah. There was the USC, it's the USC play where they push, push. Yeah. Yeah. So I was just happy the, I mean, the Bears didn't look horrendous. Like they were in this game. They were game like it was, you know, I knew this game was going, I knew this game was
Starting point is 01:14:08 going to be tight. Yeah. That's why Hank was doing his bullshit. Little, little zero point. The Bears defenses looked in a while. Yeah. I was right. You weren't right.
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Starting point is 01:15:46 Okay. Back at it. Saints 21 Falcons 18 game that shouldn't mean anything, but it kind of does because the NFC South is such a clusterfuck. Desmond Ritter. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's kind of maybe better than Mariota.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Maybe. We're not sure. We're going into the Desmond Ritter hype train. He looked good in the preseason and I told you that I am rooting for him because I want Luke Fickle my now college coach to be like, look, I'm a quarterback factory. So I was like, Hey, Desmond Ritter 160 yards over passing like you can get that with like two big plays. No, no, no, no, no, he was stuck at like 49 yards for it felt like three and a half hours.
Starting point is 01:16:34 And I think the I think the Falcons actually win this game with Marcus Mariota, who seems like a nice guy, but all time like bad teammate move to go get knee surgery right after you got demoted. Well, I mean, apparently he needed knee surgery, but he was never he didn't put himself on the injury board, but like he gets demoted and then he's like, well, I should probably take care of all the things in my body that I need to take care of. I actually I don't blame Mariota at all for that. Like if you.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Yeah, I like I like to move like it just shows he's been putting off knees. Surgery for a long time. Why are you gonna? Why are you going to continue to play on a hurt leg shows he is a team if you're in the back? Yeah, exactly. I don't know about that. Well, no, he's been playing.
Starting point is 01:17:14 He's been keeping that part. But he's been keeping his mouth shut about a knee injury for the last four months. I don't know. I'd say the team guy keep keep keep showing up for your team and even with like, I mean, there's a lot of guys get benched that I would get knee surgery. I also the record. If I need a knee surgery and I got demoted, I would I would immediately go get my surgery. I also saw in the article I was reading, it was like, he also had a kid recently.
Starting point is 01:17:38 So it's like, oh, OK, yeah, the surgery slash kid. He wants it. Yeah, he wants some recuperation. What if his surgery was he was just like getting a vasectomy? Yeah, he's like, just need to chill out for a couple weeks. Listen, like from from our perspective, like go ahead and do it. I would imagine the locker rooms like what the fuck dude. No, I think that for a vet like Mariota, they probably get it.
Starting point is 01:17:58 I think they get he's had bad injury like they're still kind of in the playoff. But remember, Arthur Smith said that he was going to keep playing until they were out of playoff contention. So maybe maybe Arthur Smith just doesn't understand math. Yeah, and doesn't realize. Yeah, because if they won this game, they would have been tied with the box. This division is first place. This division is such a clusterfuck.
Starting point is 01:18:22 The only thing I mean, we had because we had all six games on because there's only six one o'clock games. So we had this on. My eyes really never went there because it just wasn't like the spread was in in jeopardy for a little bit. And then the Falcons end up scoring. Juwan Johnson is awesome, which is such a Saints move to have an undrafted tight end who's just a fucking beast.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah. But I'm like kind of still protesting Saints games as long as they play Andy Dalton. Well, it's funny that they put in Taysum Hill whenever they need to take a deep shot. Right. And either if you need somebody to run into a linebacker or to throw the ball more than like 30 yards down the field, that's why Taysum's on there. Taysum also today
Starting point is 01:19:02 including playoffs, he now has in his career, 10 passing touchdowns, 21 rushing touchdowns, 11 receiving touchdowns. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That should just be like, I would just get that stat framed and put it in my basement. The ultimate anyone comes in and like, look at that. The Swiss Army knife.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Yeah. Look how sick I am. The Falcons defense coordinator, Dean Pease, got jacked up in the pregame and taken to the hospital. Oh, no way. And then they brought him back. I guess they just gave him a they gave him one of those famous precautionary ambulance rides that Mike White took last week. Dean Pease saw that he was like, I want one of those. So they took him to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:19:36 They checked him out and then they brought him back. I would have thought that like that would have given a spark to the team, getting your like elderly coordinator back in the second half and being like, I'm fine. Or maybe it actually would have been better if he had pulled the old Why is his name escaping me? Liberty had coach Hugh Freese, Hugh Freese and coached like remotely from a hospital bed and told
Starting point is 01:19:59 the defense what to do in the game. Call in the place. Just call it in. But it was I guess it was like a scary moment because people thought that he actually might be seriously hurt. Right. I don't know how it happened. I haven't seen any video of it. I mean, look, we also had Arthur Blank.
Starting point is 01:20:13 There was just coming back from commercial at one point. They had Arthur Blank reading like a children's story to I assume his granddaughter on the sideline. It was to him. He was reading Madeleine. Yeah. So the girl. And it was why? Well, it's so funny because like when they came back
Starting point is 01:20:27 from commercial, there's a camera just like right in front of them, completely focused on them. Yeah. And he's trying to act like natural. Like, oh, well, that's kind of crazy that there's a camera on me when I'm pretending to be a grandfather right now. Oh, Dean P's got jacked up, dude. He was not looking and he just got smoked.
Starting point is 01:20:46 And I'm going to say it right now. I'm not going to point fingers. I'm not going to blame people. But it looks like he was maybe being interviewed by a female reporter who just didn't give him a heads up. Like, you got to be like, you know, ball. So he flinches beforehand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:02 She just stepped out of the way and he just took the brunt of it. So, yeah, Dean P's, he thank God he's OK. But yeah, he got that's actually very funny. Knowing he's OK, it's very funny. Oh, I'm watching it right now. Yeah, it's very, very funny. It looks like somebody was practicing returning punts. Yeah. Back pedals.
Starting point is 01:21:19 See the woman just not do anything. Yeah. That one's tough. She's going to know what that is. That's a lot like the clip of Michael Scott and and Jim. Yeah, Jim steps out of the way at the Koi pond. And that's Michael Fallen. That's where I see happening.
Starting point is 01:21:35 That woman is Marcus Mariota. And then Dean P's is the rest of the Falcon season. There you go. Smoked and she was just like, I'm out. I'm out of here. See you. Yeah, he got he got jacked up. But yeah, that was that was a highlight of these games.
Starting point is 01:21:48 I don't even know Saints. I would love to hear from Saints fans like, where are you at? Do you want to win this division? I think maybe I think you'd rather go. Yeah, they don't have a first round pick. So yeah, why not? Honestly, like if you're a Saints fan, I would imagine that things are pretty depressing right now.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Oh, yeah, because you know, you know, deep down that like Dennis Allen, he's not, you don't want him around for a couple of years, right? Like if you make the playoffs with Dennis Allen, then I think you have to keep him around for a little bit. Yep. But you don't want that. No, you don't want. You don't want to make the playoffs as like a seven and 11 team or whatever that would be, six and 11, seven and 10 team.
Starting point is 01:22:25 And then have to just acknowledge the fact that Dennis Allen got you to the playoffs. Yes. Yeah. You want this. You want this era of Saints football to move on as fast as possible. Yes, because it's been a long season. It's not been a fun season. I'd agree with that. It's also it's funny that like the Saints, that game, that Monday night game where they give up that lead to Tom Brady,
Starting point is 01:22:48 that's going to be the difference in their season. Yeah, because right now, if they had won that game and been able to hold on to that lead, they would be in sole possession of first place in the NFC South. Yep. So possession. And they would also have split with the Bucks. So they wouldn't, the Bucks wouldn't have gotten the tiebreaker. It feels like the Bucks as bad as they've been and they've been really bad.
Starting point is 01:23:08 We're going to get to them in a minute. It feels like they are officially like, I'm going to declare them NFC South winners because they're playing at the Cardinals and then Panthers and Falcons. I think they should be able to win two out of those three. You would think so. But this this division is so weird. True. You don't know. I really hope that whoever wins, I guess, ends up going six eleven. If they lose to the Panthers, that could that could be the tiebreaker.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah, it would be double losses to the Panthers. Yeah. I mean, I think now, officially, we have to root for the Panthers to win that division. That would be the funniest possible outcome. Absolutely. Steve Wilkes in a playoff game, like his eight and nine team. Yeah. Yeah. Toasting a playoff game. All right, next up, Chiefs, 30 Texans, 14.
Starting point is 01:23:50 This game was weird because. Wait, 24, 24. It went to over 30, 24. Yeah, 24. I wrote down wrong. 30 to 24. This game was weird because the Chiefs feel like they're flirting with fire. But then I looked at like I looked at the actual numbers and they completely dominated the Texans because like watching that game,
Starting point is 01:24:09 the Texans were in it for the whole game. Guess the yardage. Chiefs, Texans. All right, Chiefs, I'm going to guess, had 400 yards of offense. OK, Texans had 250. The Chiefs had 502 yards. The Texans had 219. Yeah. And it went to overtime.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Yeah. And it's because obviously the Chiefs fumbled on their own 22. The Texans scored. They also fumbled the midfield. The Texans scored. I don't know. Like in all my homes had one of like the craziest days because he had an 87 percent completion percentage with 41 passes.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah, which is insane. That's the I think that's the highest completion percentage for a quarterback over 40 passes attempted in the game in NFL history. It is because Lamar Jackson was the previous highest completion percentage. He went 37 for 43 last year, I believe. So that one beats it by a percentage. It's like 36 for 41 is insane. It's also astounding that Patrick Holmes keeps finding new records to break.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Yeah. You would think that he'd have them all already. Like every single game record at this point should belong to Patrick Holmes. Right. But no, it's still Norm Van Broklin from 1953 or whatever. Right. Right. And it's also the Chiefs seventh straight division title, which is they don't get enough credit for just owning that division. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:27 Like we always talk, you know, when the Patriots were in their run and they were just ripping off AFC East titles. I can't believe it's been seven years, but seven straight division titles is quite something. Yeah. You remember before the season started where we were like, man, who's going to win this division? It's going to be close. Yeah. It's going to come down to it. Broncos look good.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Man, we were wrong. Raiders, dude. Any woman came on every year. The podcast. He's been he's been fucking just completely dodging us since he predicted the Raiders to win the AFC West. If I start at any point ever doubting Patrick Mahomes again about anything, just like I give you guys full permission, just slap me in my face.
Starting point is 01:26:02 You know what it is, though? It's just it's just that you hang. We always in like sports media, we don't like to do the obvious answers. We don't like to do the thing that happens over and over because it's boring to be like, oh yeah, Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. He's going to dominate the AFC West. So everyone's trying to like find this new angle when really next year.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Just remind us, Jake, please. Next year, late August, when we do our NFL preview, just AFC West, Patrick Mahomes. Done. Don't overthink this one. That's the preview for the division there. You know what? Let me be the first to congratulate the Kansas City Chiefs on their eighth straight division title next year. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:43 No, don't do it. Well, you're downing Patrick. You want me to slap you? Big catches. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. The Chargers on offense have all the weapons. Come slap them, Hank. Come slap them. This is the annual off season thing.
Starting point is 01:26:57 The Chargers like they got. Watch out for the chargers. The Chargers are healthy. And if Bosa can stay like in the game and he can, he can get after the pastor as good as anybody. You know who's really underrated? Derek Carr. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, he's got he's got a great wide receiver now.
Starting point is 01:27:11 There's they went out. They got him. Devonte Adams. This is our US preview. I mean, it's his old college teammate. They've got they've got to get rid of him. Russell Russell has to bounce back. Well, the thing about Josh McDaniels is he went back to New England and he said, I want to learn everything you have to show me. He's come back and much more humbled head coach this time.
Starting point is 01:27:30 That's our preview. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. So I don't know if the Texans are scrappy now. They've they went from worst team in the world to suddenly all was like the Cowboys game last week, the Chiefs game this week. They're scrappy and they're doing maybe the best job of tanking ever. Yeah, I was going to say the Texans and the Bears have a little bit in common that they they play competitive football. Yeah. And they're not entirely unfun to watch.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Yeah, they don't get embarrassed. Yeah, they don't get embarrassed anymore, but they lose and they do a great job of losing. Yeah. I mean, losing is the goal. It's in their blood. Yeah. And so I do you do you think the text the Chiefs are playing with fire at all? Yeah, I mean, they get too cute all the time. That's what they've always done. They get they get super cute. They start running like NBA style offenses inside the five yard line
Starting point is 01:28:16 and they're going to continue to do that. But I also think that's kind of what makes them them because I want to throw something out there and this one is probably not going to happen because the Chiefs finished with the Seahawks Broncos and Raiders. The Cincinnati Bengals have a game against the Bills. Yeah. If they win that game, they could be the one seat. The Bengals could if the Chiefs slip up once, the Bengals win, beat the Bills.
Starting point is 01:28:43 They would then have the tiebreaker against both of the other teams. And it's a team that like we've just been Chiefs, Bills, Chiefs, Bills. The Bengals could potentially like there's a path for them to get the one seat, which is crazy to say. Well, I don't think that there's that big of a separation between. No, I don't either. There was three teams at all. Well, I think the Bengals are better than the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I think those three teams are probably overall as a team. Yeah, I'd say that those three teams, though, like any one of them can beat the other. Yeah, it's like it's just a matter of like where some stupid bounces go. Maybe a couple of blown calls here or there in any one of those three teams can win. So that's why home field is going to be so important. I'm just and that's why I was saying like the Chiefs are fantastic. The Chiefs have been playing good winning football, but they've also been flirting a little bit with fire.
Starting point is 01:29:29 The Broncos last week, where they only beat him by six this week, where they beat the Texans by six. I think they'll win out if I had to put like my life on the line and say they went out. But I'm also like, I don't know. They've been kind of in that weird range where they're keeping teams that they're way better than around in games. Which one of those three teams would you say it's most important to have home field advantage in the playoffs?
Starting point is 01:29:52 I would probably say the Bills. I would say I would say Kansas City. It's not the Bengals because the Bengals obviously did that last year where they went on the road and won two playoffs. And also their owners so cheap that they probably, you know, they don't really stay in nice places anyways. Yeah, I think the Bills just because of the weather and like, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a great AFC playoffs.
Starting point is 01:30:16 All right. Yeah. So the Chiefs beat the Texans in overtime, which yeah, the Texans are like the best tank team of all time. They might. Should we start the conversation or the Texans? The best one win-loss team of all time. I think the Texans without question are the best one 12 and one team of all time. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:30:35 That's never never been a better team to do it. That's a fact. Also, just a shout out, we should make sure that we have Derek Henry in our Mount Rushmore next week and maybe make his yardage 100 because he's playing against the Texans. And he gets he gets 200 yards rushing every time he plays against him. He owns them. OK, next up Steelers Panthers.
Starting point is 01:30:58 This the the story of this game is the Pittsburgh Steelers went on a service academy drive. Yeah, it's 12 minutes. So they started the second half. Twenty one plays 91 yards, eleven minutes and forty three or eleven minutes and forty three seconds. Seven first downs. And that was basically the game.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Like the entire third quarter was just them driving and scoring a touchdown and the game was over. It's so hard to get seven first downs on the drive to have it. You've got to be like really good at getting 11 yards. Yeah, yeah, just getting right past the chains. They also converted 12 of 15 third downs. That's pretty good. Pretty damn good, Mitch.
Starting point is 01:31:38 No touchdowns, but who cares? He played well. You know, he ran for one today. Ran for a throw for a touchdown. Najee Harris looked OK today. Like Najee is so confusing to me. Yeah, because some games he looks like the most powerful man on Earth. And then other games he does almost approach the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 01:31:54 like like Levy on Belle used to. Yeah, but he just never hits the hole and he just averages like one yard per carry. Yeah, I was good. Najee, I also I'm not going to give as much as I I want the Panthers to win the NFC south. I'm going to say Steve Wilkes, you're kind of in my doghouse, bro, because last week the Panthers had a formula.
Starting point is 01:32:21 They ran the ball down the Seahawks' throats like 40 times for 230 yards, whatever it was this week. They ran the ball 16 times for 21 yards. Well, they tried to and Forman couldn't get anything going. It was it was but like keep keep leaning on them. That's what you do best. Like keep leaning on them and and hope that you can start to break through. Instead, it was let's hope Sam Darnold can make some plays.
Starting point is 01:32:44 He can't and yeah, the Panthers are now they got to win. Is P.J. Walker healthy or is he injured? Hmm, I think he's healthy and Sam Darnold is the future. Is the answer to that? P.J. Walker, I'd say it's about that time in the life cycle of Panthers quarterbacks where you start P.J. Walker. Yeah, wait, I got a question for you for a hypothetical. Billy, you can chime in.
Starting point is 01:33:05 How many wins would the Jets have with Sam Darnold this year? Healthy all year. Nine, I think it would be the same. You do. Yeah, because what they're they're going to beat the Patriots twice. Like what wins what wins would they pick up today? Maybe. Yeah, one of the Patriots with Vikings Vikings, maybe. But Mike, one of those Patriots games when Zach Wilson was truly terrible.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Yeah, I would say Mike White and Sam Darnold are on the same sort of echelon. OK, OK, would you? I actually like Mike White better than I do to I really do. I think it goes Mike White, Sam Darnold, then a big drop off. Yeah, how many different doctors did Sam Darnold go to when he had mono begging them to let him play? True. Probably just one.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Facts. True. Facts. It was probably his girlfriend dressed up as a nurse. Yeah, which it's like respect. Fix me. Yeah. Oh, last thing I had in this game. T.J. Watt is the third fastest to 75 career sacks. And it's not a T.J. Watt stat. It's actually a Reggie White stat because T.J. Watt got there in 84 games.
Starting point is 01:34:16 J.J. Watt also had 75 sacks. He was second all time. Reggie White got to 75 sacks in 65 games. That's ridiculous. That is crazy. And that's a stupid stat. But one thing that we always forget is that we didn't start keeping track of that until like 82. 82. So like Lawrence Taylor, like Deacon Jones, those old guys.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Yeah, they could have been like, who knows? Lawrence Taylor is like, I think Lawrence Taylor's first couple of years. They didn't have sacks as official sacks. Which is crazy. Like that's something that that should be kept track of. We should just invent like an old football player. Be like, this guy actually is the true sack king if they kept track of of that particular statistic going back to like 1950.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Yeah. Oh, it looks like the first year they I mean, it says he had nine and a half sacks in 1981, but I thought it was 1982. So but yeah, it is crazy to think that sacks. Pretty important stat. Pretty important. Yeah. Got to get off of the quarterback. Yeah, I got to hit him on the sleeve. You got to pin your ears back sometimes.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Yeah. OK. Next up, Chargers 17 Titans 14. Oh, are the Chargers back? Oh, the Chargers are back. The Chargers are now they had like the perfect weekend for the for the the Los Angeles Chargers because Miami losing, the Patriots losing, Jets losing. The Chargers are now the sixth seed.
Starting point is 01:35:35 And are the Chargers back? The Chargers are back, man. They might be back. They are. They are right now. So the Chargers are the sixth seed. They would play at the Bengals in the first round right now. Don't let me do it. No. Don't let me do it. No. No.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I'm begging you. No. Don't let me do it. I give you permission. If I even start talking like I'm going to do it, just strap me to a chair. No. And don't let me leave. I'm but. I'm not going to do it. No, I'm not going to do it. But yeah, the Chargers right now, they are there in the playoffs, which is it's crazy because it feels like they've been.
Starting point is 01:36:09 They've had some really, really shitty games this year. How are they going to charge this up? You remember when the Jaguars just beat the shit out of him? Yeah. Well, it's like whipped him with a rubber hose. Yeah, because Justin Herbert was playing with like no rips. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, let's play him. And then let's keep him in when we're down 30. All right. So the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Oh, yeah, that's all this is going to be. The Chargers play the Colts, the Rams, the Broncos. That's three easy wins. Yeah, they're going to lose two of those games. No, no, no. Chargers. Chargers go in 11. They're going to go 11. Wait, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:36:41 The Chargers are going to lose a Monday football at the Colts. Nine, yeah, 11. They're going to go 11 and six. The Colts, the Colts against the Chargers Monday football might be a hammer play on the Colts, just solely based on the Chargers always doing something to fuck themselves over. But I feel like Jeff Saturday has all that Chargers energy that he's bringing to the Colts. That's true.
Starting point is 01:37:04 The Justin Herbert. Like I know that there's been a weird Justin Herbert's not good thing that's been going on. Not by us, not by us. We do know ball. What's that look, Billy? Are you talking about the social media quarterback? Yeah, that and there's been other people just being like, oh, he's not that great. Or so you remember when a man, a lot of the guy that said the social media
Starting point is 01:37:23 quarterback thing said that it's dangerous to let Olympic athletes smoke marijuana because what if they're throwing a javelin? Yeah. And it might accidentally go off course and hit somebody running on the track. That was a real take real take he had. That was awesome. That was so awesome. The just if you are, I don't think there's a lot of people in this camp. But if you are one of these people who is like, Justin Herbert might not be that great.
Starting point is 01:37:46 They haven't made it to the playoffs, which I actually agree. Like not getting to the playoffs. Like eventually you got to get to the playoffs. Just go and look at the throw he made to Mike Williams to get them into field goal range with 30 seconds left. That thing was fucking awesome. He he has some wow throws. Have you looked it? Go look it up.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Yeah, I know. I want to hear your I want to hear your reaction. No, I saw it. I saw it. OK. The thing I like the most thing I like the most about Justin Herbert is when Justin Herbert, like when they do the breakdowns after games. Staley's always like, OK, Victory Monday, no lifting. And Justin Herbert's like, boo. Yeah. Come on. Let it go. I want to lift. He's like, no, I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:38:24 We're not you're not working out on Monday, Justin. Yeah. And then all his teammates like go nuts. He's like, no, you guys should be booing, not clapping. Yeah, like he he's not saying it because he knows there's a camera on him. He's saying it because he actually like loves to lift weights. Yes, which is it's weird. Yeah, he was like quarterback to do that. He's like, no, I don't have any friends.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I just want to come in and be with the guy, which I love. Yeah, like it's actually great if your quarterback has no life whatsoever outside of football. Have you ever seen the clips of Justin Herbert avoiding the camera? No, like he there's a there's a mash up of him like on when the social media team tries to get them coming out from the like locker room for practice, whether it be preseason, you know, OTAs or whatever it is, he'll he'll like duck.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Sometimes he'll have someone else wear his like helmet or jersey and then go out like as someone else because he doesn't like being on the camera to get away from. Yeah, it's actually very funny. That was the craziest thing about the Emanuel Acho thing, was that he literally avoids the media. Yeah, he like gets off the camera when he's on the jumbo truck. Billy, did you see that throw? Yes, that throw was sick.
Starting point is 01:39:31 What do you think? It was dime. I mean, it was missile missile down the sideline, running out of the pocket. He's sick like his ball that he throws, it's suit. It's like a lot of quarterbacks. Their spiral sort of jet off in different directions. His is just straight. Yeah, it's a missile. Yeah. Yeah. He throws like when you press, when you press the X button, really hard man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:54 It just fucking darts it in just the laser beam. Yeah. And who knows, the chargers might charger this down the stretch. I don't think it's because of Justin Herbert, but yeah. And then as for the Titans, it's a little comforting actually not having to do like watch out for the Titans. Yeah, because they're just not good and they've had a ton of injuries. We talked about their injuries on Friday. Tana Hill was clearly hurt today.
Starting point is 01:40:18 He came back in the game. He went off on the cart and then came back in the game. Well, the first thing he did was he went to the blue injury tent. And they put him in the injury tent and he he started like peeking through the window. He looked like Kim Kardashian looking through the plants, trying to figure out what was going on in the field. I didn't know that the blue injury tent had windows. I didn't either. Why does the real life Squidward meme?
Starting point is 01:40:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Down watching everyone else play. Why does it have windows in the injury? Isn't the whole point of the injury tent to be like absolutely no distractions from the outside world? Yeah, I don't know. But so he was in there and then they took him off on a cart. Usually when you leave on a cart, you don't come back into the game.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Unless you're Big Ben, when you just kind of wander your way into the sidelines and then who knows next thing, you know, I'm I'm through a touchdown. But yeah, he came back in. He's a tough guy. Willis didn't look great. I'm starting to see why maybe this particular draft class of quarterbacks didn't get picked in like the first couple rounds, right, right? It's starting to make a little bit more sense.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Yeah, it's starting to click. Yeah, I just tightens. It feels like they just need to like change everything. Yeah, like change everything except a few pieces and Mike Vrable and start fresh because doesn't it feel like a bummer? Like it's almost like a bump. It's we got called out for this. Remember the end of the Clippers Blake Griffin and Chris Paul era?
Starting point is 01:41:34 Yeah, like when we were just like, dude, this is just a bummer. Like they've tried so hard for so many years and they've been to the playoffs so many times. It hasn't worked. That's what I feel about these tightens. Like I don't know what you changed, probably just the quarterback. But you need to change something because it's just a bummer. Maybe you're a general manager.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Yeah, maybe it's going to be time to change that person. Yeah, but it's just I don't know. And like Derek Henry has to do everything. They had a drive today, a touchdown drive, a 63 yard touchdown drive where every yard was Derek Henry's. Yeah, like that they just I don't know. It's just a bummer. Like the tightens are a bummer at this point.
Starting point is 01:42:09 They've lost four in a row. Just feels like the wheels need a locker room. God has come in and the boys go. They do because I feel like they don't have any of that glue. They've got like they've got some fine players, but they need somebody that's like bringing everybody together, maybe like creating content with some of them, bringing them out of their shells a little bit, getting them on a bus.
Starting point is 01:42:30 I had never seen him before, but they will will often posted the video of him impersonating for able with the team. It's like one of the best. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Here's here's what I'll say. And I think Titans fans probably agree that they're just a bummer at this point. But the Titans, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt if they beat the Cowboys on Sunday night football in two weeks,
Starting point is 01:42:50 because that would be such a Titans way. Yeah. You know, that would be the win where it's like, wow, the Titans and no one believes in them. The Cowboys are, I don't know, six point favorites in Tennessee. And the Titans win, that would be like, all right, maybe they still got some fight in them. But at this point, they haven't done that like Titans game since that Packers game on whatever it was Thursday night football.
Starting point is 01:43:12 And we know the Packers aren't good. So it just it's just a bummer at this point. It's just a bummer. It is. I'm just I'm sad. Yeah. But they never really got good enough to have like like real big Super Bowl aspirations. They were the one seed at their best. It was a but still remember last year going to the playoffs, they were the one seed.
Starting point is 01:43:31 But still, everybody was like, this thing is is not like you're not equipped. You're not powerful enough to like deal with the Bills, the Chiefs. Yeah. But they they were the one seed and they beat the one seed. The year they beat the Ravens. So and they beat they ended the Brady Patriots. So there's been moments where you're like, oh, whoa, Titans, watch out. But it's all it all gets tied back to Ryan Tannehill. And there was like there was a moment in time in 2000.
Starting point is 01:43:59 I think it was 2020, maybe 2019, where people were like line up to apologize to Ryan Tannehill because he is going to be an all pro quarterback for the next five years. And like so many people were on that side of things. And I was just like, wait, just wait, because like I I refuse to admit that I had been so wrong about Ryan Tannehill. Right. And so I camped out on my take a little bit too long to the point where it actually ended up becoming true again,
Starting point is 01:44:26 where he's not the guy that's ever going to take that next step. And he does seem like a nice quarterback. He seems like in a but maybe slightly above average quarterback when he's healthy. Right. But he I think the ending was last year when they were the one seed. I don't know if we'll ever see a game again where team sacks the opposing quarterback nine times and loses. Yeah. Like Joe Burrow got sacked nine times. So I mean, it's still possible that the the Titans could win all three of those
Starting point is 01:44:53 games, taking them into the playoffs. And then we'll forget about this conversation that we had. Maybe so here's what's going to happen. OK, Derek Henry is going to get like 200 yards next week against the Texans. Then against the Cowboys, so probably gash them up again. And then the Jaguars. Yeah, we might be looking at three tractor CTO games. Leading us into the playoffs with the narrative of while everybody zigs,
Starting point is 01:45:15 the Titans are zagging and they're just playing old school smash mouth football. Can anybody stop Derek Henry this time of year? And then, yes, they will stop him quite easily in the first round of the play. All right. If the Titans make the playoffs, Jake, make sure I don't bet on the Titans. Although the Titans Ravens first round playoff game, that's that's a Saturday afternoon game. Oh, yeah. If the playoffs started today, Saturday afternoon Titans Ravens. Right. That's no question about that feels right to me. That would absolutely be the first game.
Starting point is 01:45:44 The day I was setting this reminder, I already have one from last year's Titans Bengals playoff game. Don't let Big Cat bet on Ryan Tannehill in the playoff. OK, there we go. OK, there we go. That's crazy. So it's perfect. Wait, did you tell me last year because I bet on the Titans? No, this was this coming season. This was after the Titans Bengals. All right, so I'm double telling myself.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Yeah, you remind me the day their season ended. OK, so which means I should probably bet on the Titans. I mean, someone's got to the day their season ended. You told me, I mean, if the number gets too high, I'm going to have the Titans. Have my numbers, my deep numbers say I have to. They've definitely taken over that the vibe of the Bengals that they used to have, which was just like put them on the Saturday afternoon game. Yeah. And now the Bengals are good enough where it's like you better put them on at night.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Oh, Bengals Chargers is probably the Monday night game. Yeah, I want to I want the Bengals to be playing at night in the playoffs. And the Titans, they are there big time Saturday, one PM. Yes, still. Yeah. Sunny out. Let's watch this game. Probably like gray. Yeah, I think the sun's out, but it's a very gray day. Oh, my God, the Titans Bravins. I mean, who if Lamar is not back, whose line is it anyway?
Starting point is 01:46:54 Over under 36 and a half. I mean, if Lamar is not back, I would probably I'd bet on the Titans. Yeah, I would too. If it's Tyler Huntley. Don't let me, Jake. Don't let me. I'll do it. All right, Jake. I can do it, Jake. If it's Ravens, Tyler Huntley, you can remind me to bet on it. I'll do it. That too.
Starting point is 01:47:12 But don't. Yeah. Yeah. The crowd there is going to be just like like kind of damp, angry, cold people wearing like six layers of windbreaker. Yeah. It's going to be nasty. Yeah. All right. Next up. And we're at the point in the season where we can kind of skip some games pretty quickly, and this one is definitely one of them. Broncos 24 Cardinals 15. My only I have two notes from this game.
Starting point is 01:47:34 One is Latavius Murray is still playing. Oh, yeah. He had 130 yards. He's a he's a fine young man. It's like I looked at it and I was like, wait, Latavius Murray. He's just going to bounce around the league until he's 36. How old is Latavius? I think he's probably Marlin. He scored for the Broncos, too. Yeah, he's actually the first. He's a second player ever to score for the Broncos and the Colts behind Peyton Manning.
Starting point is 01:47:55 That's kind of cool. Latavius Murray is, guess the age? 29. 32. OK. So that's actually appropriate. I was worried that he was going to running back ages. You can never get right because they just like they it's like dogs. Yeah, you could like in my mind, Saquon Barclay is like 23 years old, Derek Henry.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Yeah, Derek Henry's 28. That's crazy. That's Derek Henry is 35 years old. Yeah, he's been there's no fucking way Derek Henry's 28. I don't even remember when he played at Alabama. Derek Henry's 28. So the notes are crazy. The notes I had for this game, the Broncos have a gross field. Take some pride in your field, Denver.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Well, I think they've just given up. It's just nasty looking. Yeah, that's it's like it's patchy. It looks like it's got mange, just a bad, bad field. And then the Cardinals have been having a hell of a week this week with the GM thing. Yeah. So their general manager, Steve Keim, he's on a leave of absence. They said it was maybe health related when he went on there,
Starting point is 01:49:00 but they also fired their their offensive line coach. So they fired their offensive line coach right as they were getting back from their trip to Mexico City. Their offensive line coach looks exactly like Steve Keim, their general manager, and he got fired for cause. So this is Sean Coogler. And if you look up pictures of Sean Coogler and Steve Keim, they look they're both bald dudes with goatees.
Starting point is 01:49:27 They look like Pete Carroll assistant coaches. Defensive coordinators for Seahawks. And so their offensive line coach is now alleging that it was a case of mistaken identity, that he got caught doing something fucked up, maybe down in Mexico. But he's saying that it was not him. And the speculation is that it was Steve Keim, their GM. The Cardinals responded to and said, no, this is not a case of mistaken identity.
Starting point is 01:49:51 We know exactly who we're firing. So now they're going to court and the offensive line coach is making like a big deal about it, trying to clear his name. I don't know what's going to happen with this, but it seems like it's I can't wait to watch their hard knocks. Yeah, like if they take this out of hard knocks, I will not watch a second. No, I did not plan on watching any hard knocks for the Arizona Cardinals this year. But I am intrigued and I want to see what the fuck is going on with this.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Dude, imagine being Steve Keim and thinking you got away with it for like a month. Yeah. Being like, yeah, we fired this guy. That's probably why you hired this guy. Yeah, their initials are the same. They're both built similarly. Sounds like they both like to go out and get deep into it. Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:31 But yeah, what a wild twist that Steve Keim leaving the team might be because he did some fucked up shit and then had his body double take the fall. We don't we don't know. Just honestly, I respect him if he did hire this guy to be like his body. Someday I'll need this. Yeah, just to like throw the scent off. Yeah, how like Saddam Hussein had seven guys that looked like him. Yeah, that we're going around the country all the time.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Like when you go on the road, we probably hired him just knowing that they were going to have a game in Mexico City and Steve Keim's like, well, we're going to party down there a little bit. So I need someone to take the I need. I need I need this guy, Sean Coogler. I need Gus Bradley on the team. I mean, Dan Quinn, Bill Goldberg. Yeah, we're just going to swarm Mexico City just partying.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I'm going to get away with it, headed dudes, meatheads with goatees. Last thing I had on this game is I shout out our guy, JJ Watt. He had like a throwback game. He had three sacks, a force fumble. I think a few tackles for a loss. It's got to feel good as bad as the season has gone and his time in Arizona has not been great just because the team's not been great. It's got to feel good for a guy like that to be like, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:38 I can still just manhandle people every now and then. I'm actually shocked that he hasn't. We haven't heard more about him wanting to go play for the Steelers. Yeah, because I could see him wanting to end his career like all the brothers on a team together. That's so sick. I would get so sick and annoyed. I would get so annoyed by that by like week three. Tank, you'd have a hell of a time trying to make bets on that.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Yeah, yeah, for sure. God damn. But you know that he wants to, you know, like that's that would be the the wattest thing of all time. Yeah, the only thing I'm worried about is he might want to finish on the Packers and then I will have to turn my back on him again and start. Hey, JJ, I'm again. Absolutely. We'll have to know it. I'm not trying to make a threat. JJ, if you're listening to this right now and you go to the Packers.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I'll be on your ass. I don't think he's going to do that night and day night and day. I think he wants night and day. Can you imagine that? Like every single game, they would have a feature on the Watt brothers growing up. Their parents would be in the stands for every game. It just feels too perfect that they would end in like a football city like Pittsburgh. The three of them play together.
Starting point is 01:52:40 By the way, Hank's smile there was a sicko smile. He's just like, I want you guys going back to being bullies. No, no. No, you do think that we got soft. You say it all the time. No, you do. I don't. I listen. That was one of the funniest segments of all. It was. But it also to like, there will be sometimes people who criticize this and be like, you guys don't know what a bit should die.
Starting point is 01:53:02 You just fucking run them in the ground. I feel like that was one of the perfect arcs that you can't do that forever. If we were still doing that, we would be lame as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. But you want us to know you brought back a smile. No, that's not. I wasn't like evil. It was just like it really was. Once you did, oh, hey, JJ, I just, you know, smile and reminisce.
Starting point is 01:53:20 I feel like we changed his life for the better because he has gotten way less cringe worthy. Yeah. Yeah. You're a guy. I love JJ. Mental health is a real issue. Yes, I do. I actually do. I like. No, you don't. No, you don't like him because you want us to bully him.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Yeah. No, I do. Yes, you do. You want us to be bullies. You guys are fucking gaslight central. No, now you're bullying. You're gaslighting me by telling me that I'm gaslighting you. Yeah. JJ wants my friend. He's not your friend. Sick. Mike Wilbarn, name drop.
Starting point is 01:53:51 No, we're talking about him. We're talking about him. You want us to be mean to him. No, I don't. I just listen. That's like when you used to make me laugh very hard. One of the funniest I want to tell it because it's mean. No, say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Say it, Hank. This is way obviously way, way, way back in the day. Pre Jake, Billy, Max, the group text was just us three. And the day that we like, I think. I don't think we were interviewing him. You guys started. Brainstorming ideas of how to shame him into interviewing him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:25 And it was probably the hardest I've ever laughed in my entire life. Oh, yeah, we said we were going to like kill a puppy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was it was it was an NSFW. Like there was so many. Like it was just, you know, just a group text guy humor. But it was we're going to join. So no, no, I started to go fund me to raise money for us to go join.
Starting point is 01:54:44 ISIS, JJ didn't agree to the interview. Yeah, and then go fund me, flagged our account and took it down. Because it acted and it reported us to like homeland security because the thought that we were actually fundraising for us, we said, we were going to we were going to start like donating to like dog fighting rings and like the reverse of rescuing puppies. Yeah, I did. I remember the moment, though, when we went to his house
Starting point is 01:55:08 and when he when we were like, dude, so like, how bad did it get? He's like, my grandmother was like, why are these guys being so mean to you? And I was like, fuck, dude, that's fine. Like that's probably too far. His family was reading like all the social media comments all the time because they would check his tweets and they would be like, oh, here's a great picture of JJ doing community service. Like 300 replies and controlling him.
Starting point is 01:55:35 Yeah, I just remember he was like, yeah, we try not to read it, but my grandmother saw it and like and told me about it. I was like, I don't know what to say. Yeah, you know what, dude, that's fucking good call by you. There's probably too far. There was one where he was like having a youth football camp for free or something. And then underneath, I remember the very first comments that like, hey, JJ, you know, who else had youth development program?
Starting point is 01:55:59 And I thought to myself, that's very funny. But at the same time, like, yeah, he does have like his real person. Yeah, which he's a good person. That's the thing that like he might be he was corny at the time, but he is like a very good person. Yes. So that was the part that like kind of once we met him. And I was like, yeah, you know, you're a really good person. You know what, though?
Starting point is 01:56:21 Maybe we stopped him from going down a very dangerous path in life without us. And JJ watched life. He might have turned into Russell Wilson. Yeah, true. That's like that. That's the path that you have to decide. And like he might have actually gotten addicted to charity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Like he might have given all his money away to charity. And then where would he be? He would be nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. He was like when he tried to save Houston, he would have been addicted to charity. I think we saved his life. Mm hmm. He we basically.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Oh my God, like during COVID, he put he would he would have quit the NFL and just like gone city to city like a nurse. Yeah, distributing water. Yeah, he would have been a COVID nurse. Yes, we saved your life, JJ. What? But yeah, he had a throwback game. So shout out to him. All right, we have four more games.
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Starting point is 01:58:31 and I just have to re-watch the Jets Lose over and over through the show. Yeah, it's not great. It's not great because they're just throwing their helmets. I mean, this guy, I follow him on Twitter. He's a good writer, Antoine Staley. But yeah, he describes outfit. He's just wearing like a. He's wearing a windbreaker.
Starting point is 01:58:51 He's wearing blue jeans and a windbreaker. Yeah, I take the windbreaker off. Take him straight from the press box. Right. But like that's like a take off your coat, stay awhile kind of move. Like I don't mind it looks like he just walked in as he has to go somewhere quickly. He's a very good writer. I do follow. I don't mind it because like a guy like that, you look at him and you
Starting point is 01:59:09 think, oh, that guy doesn't need to dress up to him. That's true. He knows he's actually so plugged in that everything else is just frills. Yep. So but yeah, he's a very good writer. Go follow him Antoine Staley. I know he follows like I think he's covered a bunch of teams. So I followed him through his childhood.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Very good writer. All right, Raiders 30, Patriots 24. We talked about this game already. No, we have not talked about this game. But yeah, we have. Enough time has passed. First of all, would you like to apologize for trying to first of all, the part of my take listeners, the AWLs?
Starting point is 01:59:44 No, I'll let them make up their own minds. OK, all right. Gaslighting them again. Do your own research. OK, one of here's a fuck you want to hear something fucked up. You guys are streaming. I was watching the game in here. You left your laptop open and I don't know if you did this on purpose.
Starting point is 01:59:59 I I think you did. I did not. The sound was on and you had a tweet up with the replay of the game. I did not. So it went off like every five minutes. It would just start playing again. I just had to mute your computer. Yeah, I did not.
Starting point is 02:00:13 It was the last. Yeah, no, interesting. Interesting. OK, so so that was that. That was how I spent the Washington Commanders game, which is every like five minutes to be like, oh, my God, he passed it back. Yeah, I'm going to say something, Hank, to defend you, though. The touchdown before he was so out of bounds and saying it's crazy
Starting point is 02:00:32 that they didn't fucking overturn that. That's I don't understand it. I don't understand how you can have replay and look at it and not be like that guy's foot went out of bounds. Couldn't be more clear, conclusive on multiple angles. And that's all you need to say. What did they say? Was there an explanation given as to why there wasn't enough to overturn
Starting point is 02:00:54 everybody that watched it, saw that his foot was right. It's insane. It's truly insane. So usually Hank is actually like a paranoid psychopath when it comes to his patriot stuff. Rude. I'm with him on this. Like I am. I think this this opened my eyes.
Starting point is 02:01:12 I got redpilled. I think that the NFL is actually out to get the Patriots now. There's no other explanation. That Vikings Hunter Henry callback. Yeah, no, no, like it's all adding up. If you go back and you look throughout history, the NFL has gone out of their way to try to fuck the Patriots up their ass. Always, always.
Starting point is 02:01:33 That was a crazy, crazy play that they didn't overturn. I still don't understand how that was like he's foot stepped out of bounds. And they were down seven and something. They needed a field goal because, you know, if you needed a field goal, they probably would have got that. But getting a touchdown that late in the game, it's not easy to do. Now, for the next play, yep. So we did talk about it a little bit.
Starting point is 02:01:59 I have a couple of thoughts I'd like to throw out there. OK, one, all the players now are saying that that was not scripted, trying to make basically be like we fucked up, wasn't Belichick, which I think we all knew the famous Belichick quote, which is a great quote about football is you're either coaching it or you're allowing it. So this would mean he's probably allowing it. So he's probably as mad as you could ever be. I also would like to say that I'm going to put.
Starting point is 02:02:31 Twenty five percent blame on Ramon. Ramon de Stevenson, yep, because. Him throwing it to Jacobi Myers, I think Jacobi Myers is like, wait, we're doing this and then all hell broke. Checkoffs gone. Yeah, like it was just he. Yeah, checkoffs gone. He threw it back.
Starting point is 02:02:48 And I don't think like I think he was just supposed to go out of bounds. Play for overtime. The draw worked a little too well. But the minute he did that, Jacobi Myers like lost his mind and was like, oh, fuck, we're down. We got a score. Like, let's just go crazy. That's exactly what I was saying when we were watching earlier.
Starting point is 02:03:04 He he was not ever. Jacobi Myers was never going to throw a lateral pass if he had not himself accepted a ladder before. And in his mind, a switch flipped where he's like, we're running the lateral play to end the game. Yeah, at that point, as opposed to just taking the first offload from Stevenson and trying to get downfield with it. He just he his mind reverted back to a time and a place
Starting point is 02:03:27 where they had practiced that end of game scenario without realizing that it was a tie game and what he was doing was stupid as fuck. And then he saw Mac Jones, not even like blanket coverage by Chandler Jones, really well covered. And then he was like, Mac Jones is going to run 60 yards for a touchdown. He can't pass it 55 yards, but maybe Mac will be able to sprint 55 yards. And then proceeded to throw a horrific pass. Horrific. Like he was he was what, seven yards away from Mac Jones.
Starting point is 02:03:57 The ball was conveniently right at Chandler Jones. And poor Mac Jones, I don't think you can have a worse year than him. Like you can't. He got benched for Billy Zappi. He had that Monday night. Well, he's hurt, but then he got the Monday night game where he got benched and everyone booed him. He has Matt Patricia's OC.
Starting point is 02:04:17 And then this game, no one's been stiff armed and like made look worse than Mac Jones. And he had it basically was like a help side defense on, on like a perfect pass in the paint for a dunk. Like it he got dunked on, but it wasn't his fault. You're like Jason Terry and LeBron. Yeah, like he wasn't. He wasn't supposed to be there getting dunked on.
Starting point is 02:04:41 He just ended up standing right there getting dunked on and like smoked. Like, I mean, it was bad. I feel I actually feel really bad for Mac Jones, because I actually think and I think we alluded to this a couple of weeks ago in a wild twist of fate. Last year was all about Mac Jones being in the perfect setting and being like Belichick and Josh McDonald's. I don't think there's been a quarterback who's been screwed over more than Mac Jones this year.
Starting point is 02:05:09 He's been fucked. Yeah, I mean, there's the butt fumble. There's the Colts pun, fake pun against the Patriots. And I think this play might be worse in both of them. It's not good because it ended the game. Did you notice how Mac Jones basically got his his entire head dribbled off the ground by Chandler Jones? Jones like palmed his helmet and just like just gave it like a quick power dribble.
Starting point is 02:05:31 It was like an uncle playing like football with like a little cut. It looked like it looked like the fucking mascot in Minnesota. Blooper. Fuck Blooper. He's a fucking he should. Bloopers, someone should call a child service protection. So he's fucked up. He's a horse. He's fucked up.
Starting point is 02:05:47 He's got a nose for the end zone. That's all I actually went to one of those. Like I went to a Vikings Bears game. I think it was were you with me? We did a video. Yeah, and it was the day that they were doing the mask. They always do that every year. The mascots play against kids.
Starting point is 02:06:02 It's fucking awesome. Like in person because they just fucking go hard. They kill those kids. Dude, if I was so awesome if I was one of those kids, I would just go at the mascot's knees. Yeah, I would be like, I'm I'm not leaving this field without two ACLs. Yeah, I would team up with one of my friends. Yeah, you go right, like I'll go left.
Starting point is 02:06:18 Yeah, we're going to fucking shatter the Philly fanatics and take his head off. Yeah, you do that to a mascot. They're dead, which we actually die right there. Which mascot do you think would be the most satisfying to just like light up gritty? Oh, gritty would be. Yeah, he'd be sweet. I was going to say the do the nuggets have a cougar, like a mountain line type mascot.
Starting point is 02:06:39 He seems like he'd be very soft to bounce up. Oh, the sun. The Colts, the Colts mascot, the one that like he does. He jiggles jiggles. Also, that the pelicans, the Chuck E. Cheese rat from the from Kansas City would be fun. Yeah, light up. Yeah, I always wanted to play on the youth youth team side. You should we should get you signed up for the Vikings.
Starting point is 02:07:00 I would want to jack up Billy football mascot. Like, yeah, he's 12 years old. Yeah, it's got to be a boy. We know some people in the Vikings organization. Maybe we can get it done. I would like to out as a ringer. Yes, started fucking lighting up. Yes, you have to go for bloopy.
Starting point is 02:07:15 I will take his head off. All right. Yeah, I want you to murder him. I will. No, literally murder bloopy. Like he's like, oh, we're over some kids. Boom. Yeah. No, I want you to bring a knife. And when you tackle him, just fucking stick one right in his side so he bleeds out in a stupid mascot.
Starting point is 02:07:29 I would go for stealing McBeam, too. That dude's asking for it. I better wash your head, bloopy. We're coming for your ass. What game are we on? Oh, Raiders Patriots. No, I think we were on to the command. No, but Raiders Patriots.
Starting point is 02:07:40 So at the end, Hank, like now that you've had some time to process it, would you say this is the worst loss that you've ever suffered? No. Most embarrassing loss? Yeah. It was shocking. Worst play of your career as a Patriots fan?
Starting point is 02:08:00 I think the Miami one was still, like, that was the end of the season. And I just feel like because it was a better championship contending team, it felt worse, if that makes sense. Yeah. This is just like, I was kind of fake getting my hopes up. We've talked about it all year, where it's like, I don't think they're going to make a run in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:08:19 But the Jets lose, the Dolphins lose. You kind of start to gear yourself up. Like, we win this game. We win out. He came back in the game, yeah. But that just died. And now the season's just over. PFT, quick cross.
Starting point is 02:08:34 The offense is also so bad. It's like the least. The only reason they won is because they got the defensive touchdown. And that's basically, though, that's the recipe. That's the only way they can win these games. The only reason they beat the Jets, like, you knew watching the game that they were not
Starting point is 02:08:48 going to offensively score enough points to win the game. They needed something else to happen. And it did. But it's just, it's not fun to watch. PFT, how far back do you think this is set downfield laterals? Pretty far, pretty far. That's what I thought immediately when this happened.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Very bad day for Rugby. Bad day for Rugby overall. Now, it should be a good day because the initial offload from Stevenson to Myers was good. That's exactly what you should be doing. And he probably could have gotten, well, I mean, he still could have gotten another seven yards off or whatever.
Starting point is 02:09:23 But then you just get tackled. But part of my game plan that I'm trying to implement, and I will be vindicated for one day, does not include Myers taking the ball and then throwing it all the way across the field to your quarterback. That's not part of the game plan whatsoever. And not even close.
Starting point is 02:09:38 I don't think people are giving Jacobi Myers enough flack for how far away he was from actually getting the ball to Mack Jones. It was a perfect pass to Chandler Jones. He wasn't even close. Like, Mack Jones isn't even in the shot when Chandler Jones catches it. Also, maybe Bill Belichick is like the nicest person ever,
Starting point is 02:09:56 because I was thinking about it. We were talking about it earlier, how he said that they can't throw it that far. It would have been like the laughing stock of the league if they had done a Hail Mary and Mack Jones hadn't reached the end zone. If it came up, he might have been protecting him. Oh my god, that would have been bad.
Starting point is 02:10:11 You remember when Phillip Rivers used to come out of the game and Jacobi Berset would go in for those exact Hail Mary plays? Yeah. That would have been very embarrassing if he had come up at the 10 yard line and bounced it in. Or what you do in that case is you just do the short Hail Mary with the tossback play. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:27 A lot of teams do that sometimes. All right, we can move on from that game. Got a crazy ending, though. What, maybe the most wild ending of the year. Well, here's another wild game. Bangles 34 bucks 23. Why are you rolling your eyes, Hank? All right.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Torch pass. Well, I thought we would maybe bring up, you said the 0.0 for the Bears, and you were right, I guess. The bucks were up 17-0, and I happened to be sitting near Hank. And it was old school because I had the Can't Lose Parley, needed the Bangles. He had the Hungry Dog, needed the Bucks. So it was old school tension.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Hank was, when the bucks were up 17-0, Hank, I think, and Max, you were there, too. He was saying this team has turned a corner. This team is going to win some playoff games. They might go all the way to the Super Bowl. The Bucks are so good. This is a totally different team than everyone thought. Comment.
Starting point is 02:11:31 I said it on the show on Friday. I said Tom Brady's going to take that loss. He's going to use it as bulletin board material. He's going to fire the boys up, get ready for playoff run. First half. That was it. I never felt more vindicated. Super Bowl runners up.
Starting point is 02:11:45 They dominated him 17-0. Tom was looking good. They were driving the ball well. I think that was a world record for turnovers in a quarter. It was so. The second half started. They didn't get the ball. Every single possession, they just turned it over on the 30.
Starting point is 02:12:00 It was 17-3. The second half started. The Bucks got the ball first. They went four plays fake punt that got stopped, then the Bengals scored a field goal. They went five plays interception, three plays fumble, three plays fumble, three plays interception. That was their five first possessions
Starting point is 02:12:20 to start the second half. And then the Bengals had a 19-minute drive to end the game. Yeah, and so it went from 17-3 to 27-17 in the third quarter. The second half Bengals showed up. They are the most dominant. That defense in the second half is unreal. I think they've given up five touchdowns in the second half all year long.
Starting point is 02:12:40 It's crazy. I was a little worried because Hank was just walking around peacocking. Also, just want to note, when the Bengals did make that come back, Hank just scurried over into the part of my take studio and didn't watch the rest of the game. I was making sure that we were set up. Yeah, but I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 02:12:56 Second half Bengals, trust the process. Second half Bengals, and they did it. Like, they are so fucking. And also, the Bengals were so bad in the first half, they had 14 plays. 14 plays an entire half. But that end of the half field goal drive they had, where they started clicking,
Starting point is 02:13:14 they just rolled that. And once Joe Burrow finds like a little bit of rhythm, it's just a totally different game. I think the Bucks had 13 first downs in the first half, and the Bengals ran 14 plays. 14 plays. I think that's what the stat was. Another fun stat, teams after they play the 49ers
Starting point is 02:13:33 are now, wait, yeah, they are one and 12. Whoa. So if you play the 49ers, you get the shit kicked out of them, they'll give you the next week, because the Bucks played them last week. Last week, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Bengals kept this streak alive.
Starting point is 02:13:52 Also, fun stat, Brady, he is now 89 and one when leading by 17 points in his career. Yeah. This would be the one. Another fun stat, he's 0-1 after following you on Twitter. Well, you told him to do that. Do you feel guilty about that, Hank? That's true.
Starting point is 02:14:10 Yeah. You're responsible for that. Hank. Yeah, it's trying to help you. Do you feel a little like I handed you the Bucks disease? Because remember, I had that disease to start the season and then I hammered them on the Seahawks game, the Rams game and got out.
Starting point is 02:14:26 They're not a good team. Like we, I know they'll make the playoffs because they'll probably win the NFC South. They are not a good football team. Yeah. And I was like really trying to talk you off the ledge and I think I might've got like exposed to some secondhand residuals and then it's kind of seeped
Starting point is 02:14:41 into me and I'm just in a bad place. Because you know what it is? And so many different things. They have a bunch of names. They have a bunch of names that you know because a lot of them are from the Super Bowl. Their defense is not bad, but as a collection, as a football team, they're just not a good team.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Like that first half, the fact that Bengals ran 14 total plays and the Bucks were only leading 17 to three was the biggest red flag ever. Like a good, a really good football team buries the Bengals in the first half. And they still like, you know, even the same thing happens in every Bucks game. They get to like the red zone and they can't,
Starting point is 02:15:17 they can't get touchdowns. My thinking, and I honestly like speaking, you know, from the, from the addict state of mind, cause I'm probably gonna, I don't know that I'm quitting yet. Oh no. The Bucks, it's smart. It's smart. Like the Bucks, as bad as they've been playing.
Starting point is 02:15:33 That's true. As bad as they've been playing, they have the greatest quarterback of all time. And they're in a position to be in the playoffs. And it's like the ultimate, they have players, they have coaching, they have experience, they have the quarterback. All you got to do is get in the dance
Starting point is 02:15:48 and things can happen. And I know I can just, I'm admitting it now that I'm going to fall into that trap again in the playoffs that they make. Don't, they're bad. Well, they're a bad football. Well Hank, if they play against the Cowboys, then yes, bet on the Bucks.
Starting point is 02:16:03 They're, they're bad. They're going to beat the Cowboys in the playoffs. What about the Vikings? Well, that would be like second, probably second round. So see, he's doing it again. He's talking, he literally is just, he's doubling down on his 17-0 Bucks speech that he was saying to everyone in the office,
Starting point is 02:16:17 like they're going to the NFC Champions. I think you said Eagles earlier. You said going into the link to beat the Eagles. You did? Hank. I could see it happening. Hank, they're a bad, actually, football team. They're not a football team, Hank.
Starting point is 02:16:30 Max, put the camera on yourself when you're talking. They're six and eight. They play in the NFC South. They should've run away with this division. They're bad. They're very, they're very bad in a lot of different ways. And they're, they're a prime example of a team that just kind of got old.
Starting point is 02:16:46 They've got a lot of the core same players. They obviously lost some guys on the offensive line. Their offensive line is, their offensive line is decimated. But they, they just kind of aged. They aged poorly. Yeah. These takes have aged poorly.
Starting point is 02:16:58 Hank, they're a bad football team. Just say it. Say it with me. They're a bad football team. Okay, thank you. They're probably gonna beat the Cowboys in the first round of the playoffs. But they're a bad football team.
Starting point is 02:17:08 Just think about it. They're a really bad football team. Think about it. That would be perfect because Brady's never lost to the Cowboys. And it would be the perfect Mike McCarthy giant collapse. Yeah. Probably, it's probably gonna be hot in Tampa Bay, muggy.
Starting point is 02:17:21 He's gonna be sweating up a storm. He's just gonna be like a big moist thumb. Yeah. Coaching on the sidelines and his brain melting out of his ear, like candle wax. And it's for the Bengals. I think that speech that we talked about when they were sitting after the Browns loss,
Starting point is 02:17:40 whenever, when it was like they were four and four, five and four after the Panthers went and were like, look what's coming up. They're exact same spot as they were last year. They got the Chiefs. They started 0-2 this season in their 10 and four now. They're playing awesome football. And like guys are getting healthy.
Starting point is 02:17:55 I know they've had a couple of injuries on the defensive line, but they're off like T Higgins was playing today. They're a very, very good football. T Higgins might have let himself into the game for an extended period of time this week. They're just a really good football team and their defense is nasty in their second half.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Like they also have, and it's probably a lot because of Joe Burrow, but also the second half defense. They like having a team that feels like they are never out of it no matter what is, is a like a superpower. You know what I mean? Like down 17-3, I guarantee you that locker room
Starting point is 02:18:28 was not panicked whatsoever. They're like, all right, let's get a stop and then we'll score a touchdown and then we'll be back in this game. Because what Joe Burrow does is he says, I'm convinced he gets in the huddle and he goes, hey Jamar, you know that play that we ran at LSU that they made that stitch up of
Starting point is 02:18:41 where we ran it again in the NFL and it looks crazy and wild. Let's do that exact same play again. Yeah, hey Jamar, just run down the sideline and I'll throw the ball. And then when you turn around, it'll be right on your back shoulder. Yeah, it'll be on your back shoulder.
Starting point is 02:18:53 And then you're stronger than the guy who's guarding you. So just shrug him off and then it'll be a 50 yard touchdown. And then I'll come meet you in the end zone and we'll do the same dance that we did in Baton Rouge when we beat Mississippi State. Oh, and then our defense, because it's now the second half and for some reason they're just a different team
Starting point is 02:19:06 in the second half, they'll just stop them every time. And also, again, huge credit to whoever's running strength and conditioning on the Bengals because they're just in better shape sometimes than their opponents in the second half. Yes, Hank, the Bucks are a bad team. Yeah, they're a bad team. You're like Stephen Chey.
Starting point is 02:19:23 Stephen Chey was like, yeah, they're a bad team right now. Right now is the rest of this season. You think they're going to the NFC championship game? Wouldn't shock me. Oh my God, okay. Last game, rowback game. Use code TAKE on rowback for 20% off your first purchase. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com.
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Starting point is 02:20:05 R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Use code TAKE for 20% off your first purchase. Giants 20, commanders 12. PFT? The NFL is rigged. I'm boycotting the NFL. I'm in solidarity with Hank because Hank, I saw what you went through left hand up.
Starting point is 02:20:24 I saw what you went through today. Clear as day, the NFL is a rigged league. That's why they classify it as entertainment and not as a sport so they can fake all of it. There's a script. If you don't know that there's a script to all these games and that the NFL is out to screw over owners that he doesn't like, like the Patriots,
Starting point is 02:20:41 like Mr. Kraft, like Mr. Snyder in DC who has allegedly leaked many pictures and emails and embarrassing things and had several alleged private investigators follow the commissioner around as if that's even a crime. It's rigged. The last two plays of the game, Terry McLaurin got called for illegal formation.
Starting point is 02:21:05 He was asking the fucking line judge. He's like, I'm on the line, right? His job as that wide receiver was to be lined up on the line of scrimmage. The ref told him move up a little bit. So he moved up, gave him a thumbs up. The ref gives him a thumbs up and then throws a fucking flag in his face.
Starting point is 02:21:24 It's an entrapment. It's exactly entrapment. They take the touchdown off the board, very next play or two plays later, excuse me. They throw to Johan Dotz in the end zone and he's got a defender that's draped on him, actively not letting him put his left hand up to catch the ball, pulling him back by his left arm.
Starting point is 02:21:45 No flag, the NFL is rigged. I'm boycotting the NFL until Monday night, until the Monday night football game. Fair. And I'm sorry, I've just come to this point. I love football and I've never thought that I was gonna be a guy that's like, oh, well, I'm out, I'm out on the NFL.
Starting point is 02:22:01 I'm out on the NFL for the next 17 hours. Fair. Done, I'm done with this league. The best part about this game, the Giants are now in a great spot to make the playoffs. It was crazy looking at like the playoff percentage off of this game was insane. But Brian Dabel at halftime,
Starting point is 02:22:23 his, the reporter on the sideline was like, talk to coach Dabel, he said his great first half up 14 to three, gonna have to hold on and have a few breaks go our way. And it was, he literally just said the game plan, like the Giants game plan every game is like, just hope that a couple of balls bounce our way. And it did.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Taylor Hineke fumbled on the five yard line. Everything you just referenced happened for them. Like they just held on and breaks went their way. The credit to Tibidow, he played out of his mind today. He got that, that sack fumble, which was a great play. That was incredible. Like watching the replay of that. It's amazing.
Starting point is 02:22:58 Like he hits Hineke, spins around in midair, lands, and in one like seamless motion gets the football, palms it and runs in the end zone. He's a freak. The dude is an awesome football player. He might be the best player that doesn't love football. Yeah. Yeah. And here's a dirty secret.
Starting point is 02:23:13 You don't have to love football. I know that was such a, that was character season. Yeah. That knocked him down to like, oh man, does he not, he doesn't like football. He's got other interests. No, they were like, this guy likes crypto. Yeah. Oh no.
Starting point is 02:23:24 We might not want to draft him. Well, that might have been the red flag. Well, either that or if he takes his contract in crypto, then he's probably going to play way harder for the second contract because he'll be broke. True. Facts, facts. But yeah, that game sucked for you.
Starting point is 02:23:35 It did suck for me. And the Giants, they, listen, that drive that they had at the end of the game were a safe one, just they would hand the ball to him and he'd break off 11 yard run after 11 yard run. There's nothing that we could do to stop it. That was impressive. That was impressive.
Starting point is 02:23:49 So the Giants are good at what they do. I still think that it was bullshit. It was rigged. Taylor Heineke said after the game that the referee gave the thumbs up to Terry. What the fuck is that? And then Terry confirms that the ref okayed his alignment before the snap.
Starting point is 02:24:07 That's insane. I pride myself on paying attention to details. So I tend to believe Terry McLaurin and all this. That's insane. It's stupid, it's dumb, but you know what? We're still in the playoffs right now. Yeah, you're seven seed. We're still in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:24:21 And I was looking at next week. So next week we have to play against the 49ers. That smells like a shit kicking to me. Oh yeah, that's gonna be bad. It smells like we might, let's just start Carson Wentz next week. Yeah, at 49ers. Let's roll Carson Wentz out there
Starting point is 02:24:34 and just let him get destroyed. Let him get thrown around like a rag doll in a hurricane. And then after that, then we bring Taylor back in. We beat the Browns and we should be in the playoffs as long as we take care of business against the Cowboys. Oh, I have a question. Yeah. Yeah, that's not good.
Starting point is 02:24:53 That's not good. Well, I don't understand how math works. This pissed me off. I don't know how numbers work because going in this game, we were at like 80% to make the playoffs. The Giants were at 76% or whatever to make the playoffs. Now they won, they're at 85% and we're down at like 36%. How does that happen?
Starting point is 02:25:11 You know the machine's back. Yeah. Oh, I know. Yeah, I've been Jake. Yeah, yeah, come on. Come on, Jake. You checked like two weeks ago, it wasn't back. Yeah, I've been on the machine. I've been on the machine.
Starting point is 02:25:19 Yeah, no, I don't understand it either because you guys, you beat, well, no, you haven't played the Seahawks, right? So, but you're a game ahead of them in the loss column and the Lions as well. So how does that make sense? I don't know how it makes sense. You lost the Lions.
Starting point is 02:25:35 That's gonna hurt you. They're a good team. That's gonna hurt you. You know what? That's what it is. That's what it is. The Lions, if the Lions have the same schedule as you or same record as you, they get in.
Starting point is 02:25:44 And I will fall on my sword for the Lions. I will do that out of love. It's like the end of Tale of Two Cities. I'm willing to send myself to the guillotine if it means that the Lions can advance. I'm not gonna like doing it, but just make sure that the ages know my name. The worst part about this game was the Taylor Heinecke
Starting point is 02:26:03 had his like, I'm gonna die for the Pylon moment. He wasn't able to do it. Oh, when he started scrambling, I stood up and I yelled Pylon. Here comes Pylon Heinecke. And then Dotson just decided to make a business decision and not block Kavon Tibido. That was a prime time Heinecke Pylon moment.
Starting point is 02:26:20 Oh, it was gonna be great. It was gonna be great. I have a question. Why do NFL officials not have to do a press conference post game? Because it's rigged. They send one pool reporter. There should be just as much openness
Starting point is 02:26:35 between the media and the officials like the players and coaches have. Actually, Belichick was asked about the touchdown and he just responded. He's like, is there a pool reporter here? And he's like, he just pointed at him. It's like, ask them. Ask them.
Starting point is 02:26:48 I don't know. I don't understand why they don't have this question in a game like this. I agree. Where does one go to find the pool report for these games, Jake? I want to hear the explanation right now. This feels like NFL is gonna release a statement
Starting point is 02:27:00 being like we fucked up. Yeah. They're going to say like, sorry, sorry coach Rivera that we should have called pass interference on the last play. They're not gonna say anything about the Terry McLaurin penalty because they're gonna say in the line judges, in his opinion, McLaurin was a half yard off the line.
Starting point is 02:27:17 And that's why I threw the flag, even though McLaurin checked in with him. Well, this is confusing, but Terry McAuley, the rules analyst, we listened to him earlier. He's like, it's, it's tiki-tak. It's the Irish. We don't really call that, but... Yeah, it's a big Irish conspiracy.
Starting point is 02:27:29 It's fucked up. It's fucked up. I feel bad. It's fucked up. It's okay. It's all right. Listen, I'm a realist when it comes to the Washington commanders.
Starting point is 02:27:38 I don't think that we're a good football team. I think we're an above average football team that can be feisty and fun at times. And I think that Taylor Heineke is, he's fun to root for. And I think he's a good quarterback. He's the best quarterback that we've had winning percentage wise since Brad Johnson in 1999.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Here's a spin zone for you too. Right now you're in the seventh seed, the Giants are in the sixth seed. If the playoffs started today, I'd so much rather play the Vikings than the Niners. The Giants will get fucking, they'll get the shit pushed in by the 49ers. They'll get pumped by the 49ers.
Starting point is 02:28:14 So I said right at the start of the Vikings game on Saturday, I said, I really want the commanders against the Vikings on playoffs. But again, that would, I would almost rather just get the shit kicked out of me by the 49ers in the playoffs than to have Kirk Cousins do some magical Vikings bullshit. That would suck very much.
Starting point is 02:28:31 And come back and beat me. Yeah. Because people would be very, very, very mean to you. Very mean to me. The NFL has been mean enough to me today already as it stands. That's a fact. Okay, should we do football guys? Let's do football guys.
Starting point is 02:28:44 The Mike Leach Football Guy of the Year award. This one's the weekly, I think we're saving the renamed award for... The end of the year. The end of the year. So this week's winner was Baker Mayfield for headbutting again even though we had our speculations about whether there was padding underneath his headband.
Starting point is 02:29:02 He ended up winning. By a very astounding margin. He won by... He had 70% on the boat. Usually this is much closer. I thought Cody March would definitely pick up some steam and he only got 17%. So now for this week's nominees.
Starting point is 02:29:17 So before the Jets game, there was a Lions fan in a Panay Sewell jersey doing pass protection sets with his wife. An awesome lot. Awesome. That guy rocked. He had pretty good technique too. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:30 It's actually really funny. You always see X offensive linemen. Either in the gym or somewhere and they're just doing their pass sets and it's like a cool martial art that only they know. That's like my favorite part. They do a little shuffle. They do the shuffle backwards.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Back and hands up. No disrespect to his wife. She could have used some better technique when it comes to her set. Like she was not being aggressive enough. And he kinda was giving the inside move. Yeah, no, it was what? She should have swam back up.
Starting point is 02:30:00 She didn't have active hands. And she was just kinda like going away from contact trying to get around him. His base was too wide. You gotta cut inside. You gotta swim. You gotta swat the hands to the outside. Yep.
Starting point is 02:30:12 Our second nominee is Mike White. Mike White, tons of questions about whether he was gonna be able to play this week. He was talking about last game. He said that in his mind, he was never not going back from the game. Said they would have had to peel him off the turf. He also said that he was even asking
Starting point is 02:30:28 if he needs the Jets doctor's opinions to play. Like why do you tell me if I can play or not? Yeah. Just warrior, absolute warrior mentality. And then our third nominee is Mark Ivy, the Louisville D-Line coach who was getting into fights with the whole defensive line group before the game. They were carrying him around
Starting point is 02:30:49 and carrying him away to the locker room. And he's just going out with this guy. This is a very funny video because at one point it's like, I think it's in, is it Wizard of Oz where all the little munchkins just grab the person? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was very funny. But just getting after it with his guys
Starting point is 02:31:06 getting hyped for the game. And our last football guy of the week nominee is the Browns fan that's gone viral for just hanging in there. Turns out this guy, he's a season ticket holder of sorts and he's been up to these shenanigans for a long time. He's the guy we were talking about earlier. Who just swabled that all the time.
Starting point is 02:31:24 In the Peyton Hillis jersey. Yeah. Total football guy. He totally, he has a, there's videos of him from past years where he took his shirt off and he has a know my pain tattoo. Just huge over his stomach. This guy is wild.
Starting point is 02:31:43 I love him. I love him. And he is the Browns. This is how he ended up at the end of the game. He ended up outside the stadium. What a piece. Just what a fan. Too thick and thin.
Starting point is 02:31:55 Just always going after it. And I had a bonus football guy the week. Okay. It was from After the World Cup. There was an Argentinian announcer, I think Hank like this, but he just, this is the radio call. Oh yeah, this is the best.
Starting point is 02:32:10 Yeah, let me, let me, this is Argentina winning the World Cup in a very, here we go. Man on kill. Oh, I love this. It starts tearing up. This guy rules. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:39 Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, this guy rules. Oh, God. That's Andre's cantor, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:55 Yeah, that guy rules. He's like the legendary announcer. There was also another guy, the first goal, the D. Maria goal, I'm trying to pull it up right now, because that call was, oh, I think they deleted it. I tweeted it out, but Big FIFA took it down.
Starting point is 02:33:13 Oh, damn. But he's not going fast. He's like rapping it, as he does his so fast call. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. All right, good job, Billy. Let's do who's back. P.F.T., you got one last ad and we'll do
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Starting point is 02:34:53 This past weekend was the PNC championship for the PJ Tour, it was a father-son event. Yeah, I hate Quass. That's Rudy's the champion. You had the dailies playing. It came out, Charlie Woods and Tiger were playing. That's what I'm saying, Charlie's my guy. I think Charlie's gonna be better than Tiger.
Starting point is 02:35:11 So there was a picture on Friday of Charlie Woods and on his bag, he had the part of my take, three-wood head cover tied-eyed. We've always been Charlie Woods guys. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I didn't even know that. I've been a Charlie Woods supporter, had no idea that he was a part of my take fan.
Starting point is 02:35:29 So you can imagine my surprise. Dan Rapport who works for 4.0, used to cover Golf of Golf, I guess he's a real big J. He said he had inside info that said Charlie and his son, Charlie and his friends were big fans, which is obviously pretty crazy and just a funny fact. So it's funny because we've always said
Starting point is 02:35:47 Charlie Woods will probably be better than Tiger. It's ironic, yeah, it's weird that he would, it's just a big coincidence is all. And we're just huge Charlie Woods guys. When we think about the best golfers, Charlie Woods next up. Charlie Woods is great. And I think that even Tiger would admit like he's got,
Starting point is 02:36:06 Charlie's got more natural ability than Tiger ever had in his life. Also, shout out that loser who replied being like, matches up with like 13 year olds love this show. Shut up dude. Our dads listen. Yeah, it's funny like. That's why I don't curse.
Starting point is 02:36:23 Oh, for the 13 year olds? Yeah. For the little fuckers I say. Say fuck all the time. Just be a fucking badass like us. Well, my point was gonna be more like. Charlie, next time you go out to eat with your dad, be like, hey, dad, how much tip do you like
Starting point is 02:36:36 to leave the waitresses? Yeah, Charlie, we got your back, bro. We got your back. You're the fucking man. And don't fucking forget it. You fucking G. I actually, I would kill for, for Charlie. I would.
Starting point is 02:36:48 If he has any enemies. If it was blooper, I'd murder. If he's got any enemies out there, like let us know. We will go to war for Charlie Woods. Anyone talk shit about you, Charlie? You let us know. We'll fuck them up. You know what?
Starting point is 02:36:58 Those weirdos that replied to like all the, all the pictures and videos of Charlie playing golf. And they have like the still shots of like year by year, Charlie's backswing. And they're like analyzing it. Those guys should be looked at by the FBI and sent to jail. Cause you know what? They're putting too much pressure on a kid
Starting point is 02:37:16 who most likely is going to win like, I don't know, 15 to 20 championships. Yeah. I mean, we don't want to like talk of majors. And that, that doesn't just have to be in golf. It could probably be any sport. He could do any sport he wants to go to NASA if he wanted to. He's not smart. Shout out, Charlie.
Starting point is 02:37:33 I love Charlie Woods. That was pretty cool to see that car. Well, I was going to say it was great. We, we love Charlie Woods. No, he's like, he's my man. Yeah. He's my, he's my boy. My homie. He's my boy.
Starting point is 02:37:45 He's the big homie. When I'm like, the boys are coming over to drink some. Nope. Nope. Drink some iced tea. Yeah. Charlie Woods always invited. Like playing some video games. Yep.
Starting point is 02:37:55 We should squad up. Oh, we should definitely play some games with Charlie Woods. Let's, let's wake up. And I bet you, Charlie, hit us up. Yeah. Hit us up. We'll hop on Twitch, whatever. Keep it cool. Brownie James, you're not invited.
Starting point is 02:38:07 Go ahead, Hank, what were you saying? But anyways, you were talking about like Quas singing or whatever? Yeah, we were, we, that was just random that that came up. I was just going to say that you guys, Charlie, hit us up. You guys are going way too fast. We're going to record an episode of part of my take. It's going to be me, Big Cat, and Charlie down in the basement.
Starting point is 02:38:26 Like it is the Fortnite overrated me. Hit us up, hit us up, Charlie. Hit us up. Hit us up on the, on the Dio. No, like, I, listen, we don't go, go like see a movie or something. Like we can go check out Avatar or whatever. Whatever. Just like hit the mall. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:40 We go to the mall. Hot topic. Play some video games. Do our homework. We'd help you with your homework. Yeah. Imagine how hard a 13 year old's homework would be for us. I don't understand how, how dads are expected to help their kids with like
Starting point is 02:38:53 algebra too. Dude, the day that I, the day that my kids asked me a fucking math problem passed like age eight, I'm going to be like, not me. I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy, pal. But that said, I don't, I got shit for brains. Charlie, if you have, you got any problems, just let us know. We'll take care of it.
Starting point is 02:39:10 Yeah. Just like pretend, you know what's cool about Charlie Woods? He's got three dads. Tiger, PFT, big cat, two big cats looking over it. It's wild at all times. What are you saying? That's it. Oh, that's it.
Starting point is 02:39:24 Are you a Charlie Woods guy? Too anchored? You hate him? I was trying to say something, but I couldn't really get anything out there. What were you going to say? Go off. I was just going to say that. Are you okay?
Starting point is 02:39:36 No, I just, yeah. He's trying to catch us. He's trying to induce us to jump off. So I'm not going to do anything. I was just going to say, I'm not going to say. Charlie, I like candy too. We can eat any candy you want. I'm done.
Starting point is 02:39:46 Twizzlers, stickers, Reese's Pieces I've been on recently. Yeah, for like 20 years. Oh, that's it. Oh. Charlie, you know what the hungry dog do today? I lost. I should start. I should actually start taking the hungry dog because then maybe I'd lose weight
Starting point is 02:40:06 because I'd be starving like that Billy. Okay. What are you going to say? We're done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. That was my who's back.
Starting point is 02:40:18 That was your who's back? Who? Oh, my other who's back was the World Cup. No, shut up. You fucker. Yeah. It's my who's back. No, the one comes back.
Starting point is 02:40:26 That's my who's back. Hank's right. Don't take that. All right, P.F.D. I got a couple who's back. I was going to say the World Cup is back. It is. But my other who's back is Avatar.
Starting point is 02:40:35 Avatar's back. Me and Hank went to go see Avatar on Thursday. Nothing like a good debut. I think it was like the first time the movie was being shown in New York City. It's a little bit extra. It was a little bit. But Jeff DeLoe. Who in Hank might have moved a meeting?
Starting point is 02:40:51 He was like, hey, can we move this meeting? I was like, yeah, no problem. What do you got? He's like, I'm going to see Avatar. Yeah, Jeff DeLoe got his tickets. And Jeff, when he goes to the movies, he stuffs all the corners of the cushions of the seats with napkins. I don't know why he's got his little weird things he's into.
Starting point is 02:41:09 But this movie kicks ass. He has a pre-ordered snacks, which I've never seen before. It was an experience. I would highly recommend seeing this movie while high. I did not see it while high because I had to come back to work. But I could imagine Hank saw it very high. We got out of the movie. And I thought Hank was crying because it was so good.
Starting point is 02:41:27 That's how I realized. Here's how I realized where we got back to the office. He goes, I'm actually going to run into Dwayne Reed and get some eye drops. Yeah, I went to the bathroom and looked at the mirror. I was like, oh, my God. Thursday at four o'clock. The whole entire internet was shitting down my throat.
Starting point is 02:41:42 And Hank just strolled back in high after seeing Avatar. He's like, what's up? I was like, OK, cool. It was a good movie, though. If you like water, I highly recommend this one. It's for the water boys. Yeah, if you're a water boy like me, you're going to love it. I'm ready for the spoilers to come out so I can kind of roast it.
Starting point is 02:42:02 You were high when we were lifting? He's like, Kevin's spitting. I didn't want to. I was chilling and then Billy was like, you want to lift? And I was like, you got to say yes. Yeah, you're like Kevin Spacey in American Beauty. If you're trying to lift, you got to fucking, you can't say no to a lift session with the bros.
Starting point is 02:42:18 But I really wanted to. Billy tried to kiss him like the military guy from American Beauty. Yeah. What? Nothing. There's also edibles. I wasn't even that high.
Starting point is 02:42:26 When I take edibles, my eyes just get like. They get cut. Blooded. They're very cut. Yeah. It's a great movie, though. It's like, if you liked Avatar 1, but wished it was like 70% more like Titanic,
Starting point is 02:42:37 then you like Avatar 2. Nice. I'm not going to give it the coson. OK. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Hank was being a major buzzkill about the whole operation. All right, Mai, who's back?
Starting point is 02:42:48 I don't know who's back. OK, go ahead. The World Cup. All right, Mai. No, my real other who's back is Bo Nix. Yeah. Bo Nix is back, returning to college football. This is the year.
Starting point is 02:42:57 For another season, Heisman campaign back on for Bo Nix. It's a dark horse. Keep coming back, Bo, year after year after year. You are a college football player. He's put it. I saw a guy on Oregon who has. He just got granted two more years of eligibility, and he has.
Starting point is 02:43:11 So he's going to be in college football for nine years. Yeah, that rocks. So awesome. He's the Van Wilder. So awesome. Yeah, the Burt Kreischer of college football. Max Duggan declared for the draft. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 02:43:22 He did. So shout out, Max. Well, he gets drafted somewhere nice. He's not going to the transfer portal. That's first reported on part of my take. Nope. All right, Mai, who's back is the World Cup. That game was awesome.
Starting point is 02:43:33 Messi is the goat. Hank looks like a fool. I mean, Ronaldo, I mean, there's nothing left. Messi has literally won it all. Yeah. What? No, you're right. That game was fucking incredible.
Starting point is 02:43:44 Like, I don't know. You can't ask for a better Sunday, where we just had, like, the most compelling soccer game ever to lead us into NFL Sunday. The fact that it was that France came back from down 2-0, then Argentina scored an extra time, then France scored peak. I know people don't like PKs. I think it's awesome.
Starting point is 02:44:05 It's electrifying. It's so compelling. It's not necessarily the most fairway. It doesn't mean that that team's better necessarily at soccer. But you've got to end it somehow. And it's awesome to watch. It's like the most high stakes ever. I'm always in the mindset that the goalie,
Starting point is 02:44:18 there's not that much pressure on the goalie. There's more pressure on the person shooting. Because if goalie saves it, that's bonus. But you have to make your PKs if you're the guy that's stepping up to take them. France goalie got absolutely, like, completely embarrassed. Is that Messi, PK? Mentally dominated.
Starting point is 02:44:36 Where he just slowly rolled it in. But I was disrespectful. It was. It was awesome. I'm happy for Messi. He's always been my goat. And this was literally the last thing he had to win. He's won everything that he could win.
Starting point is 02:44:49 And it's cool that he was able to, like, it's cool to watch a game and know, like, you're watching an all-time, all-time great cement his legacy forever. Maybe the best World Cup final of all time. It was that good of a game. And Messi, if you just look at what happened this World Cup, Messi dominant scored, what, seven goals?
Starting point is 02:45:09 He scored a goal in every knockout stage. Ronaldo got so pissy that he got fired from his club team and then benched on his national team and then pissed his pants and went home. And now he's playing for Saudi Arabia. So I'd say it's been pretty clear vindication of the Messi over Ronaldo people in the last month. Like, as bad as it could get, maybe, for Ronaldo stand.
Starting point is 02:45:33 And as good as it could get for Messi. Yeah, and Messi was obviously awesome today. DeMaria was really good. Argentina, great color scheme. Shout out the country of Argentina and Buenos Aires because they were doing, like, the drone flyovers. I think it's the Philadelphia of South America because there are people climbing up light poles
Starting point is 02:45:52 in Buenos Aires, like, celebrating next to that obelisk that they have there. It just looks like the best place to be. I love watching giant group celebrations and group viewings of important soccer games. It's the best. It is, yeah. I'm going to miss the World Cup.
Starting point is 02:46:07 This game was so good that when the NFL game started today, it was like a little bit of a letdown. Yeah, it was. I was like, does the stakes don't feel as high right now? It also was there was a moment that was a little bit of a bummer because it oftentimes happens when I'm watching the Bears play football and then I, like, watch, like, the Chiefs play football.
Starting point is 02:46:25 I was like, could you ever imagine the US in this game? Nope. Yeah. Like, they're so good. They're so much better than the US. Mbappe is so fucking good. Like, the fact that he brought France back basically single-handedly, like, he's insane.
Starting point is 02:46:39 And yeah, I'm just happy for Messi. Yeah. He deserved it. He's won everything. He won a Copa. He's won, what, four champions leagues. He's won everything. World Cup.
Starting point is 02:46:50 It's all over. He's the goat. Also, no, no, no argument left. There can be no debate. No debate. Great refereeing job today. Yeah. We want, we got to give credit to the,
Starting point is 02:47:01 they're not the boys in blue. I don't know what color the refs wear. What did that guy wear today? The bald guy that was jacked up. I think he was wearing orange. Orange. Yeah, he was wearing orange. He was actually a Steve Kahn body double as well.
Starting point is 02:47:10 He was. There were, there were like a million things that you could try to complain about during that game. But I think the refs got most of the stuff right. Yeah. There's some, like, borderline calls here and there. I don't like, my take is, I'm starting to think that penalties are, it's like a cheat code.
Starting point is 02:47:26 If you can just get to, like, the corner of the box and fall down. Yeah, and have someone just kick you a little bit. Yeah, they should be worth half a goal. And that penalty with the handball, oh my god. Penalties should be worth half a goal. Yeah. Or if the goalie stops it, they should get a goal.
Starting point is 02:47:41 Yeah, that would be cool. All right, Billy. My who's back is Harambe. Oh. Not a good way. What, zombie? A zoo in Sweden had a bunch of chimpanzees escape and they shot all of them.
Starting point is 02:47:59 I don't know if it really, I don't know what to say. What? Foreign soil versus US soil is different, different, different, different circumstances. I can't cry the same way. Were there any children around them? No, they just escaped. But that's so fucked because it's like, not their fault.
Starting point is 02:48:16 And you know what their excuse was? They didn't have any tranquilizer. Oh, fuck you, Sweden. And the worst thing is one of the chimps was an artist that's paintings was actually their favorite, like they have a royal family in Sweden and the crown princess has paintings from one of these chimps on the walls.
Starting point is 02:48:39 That's fucked up. I take the side of the animal. Now, if you had started that sense off with like the beloved chimpanzees, you didn't seem like they had like, were these famous chimpanzees? You need names, you need names. Yeah, let me, let me get you a name.
Starting point is 02:48:52 Give me a name so I can grieve. If they were like not nationally famous chimpanzees and that's a tragedy. I think they're famous there. Like one of the guys was Ryan, Ryan the Chimp. I think he got shot. Probably Lars. Yeah, Lars.
Starting point is 02:49:07 Santano, Santano. Santano is the artist. Yeah, who else was an artist? Yeah. Might have done the world a favor. That's true. All right, Jake, finish us off. My who's back is the spotlight for part of my cheesesteak.
Starting point is 02:49:22 It was one of the sponsors for the Las Vegas Girls, Florida and Oregon State the night before the game. They had like a part of my cheesesteak party. It was awesome. Yeah, it was really cool. That was very, very cool. And it was in the stadium. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:34 Go, go, go buy some part of my cheesesteak. Yeah. The official food sponsor of the Las Vegas. They are delicious. Yeah. I eat them on squat days. And we do. Best time to re-up on your protein.
Starting point is 02:49:46 Just so people know we do care. So if you have an issue at all, there is a Twitter account that can rectify it instantly. We basically said like any issue, let them know we want people to enjoy their part of my cheesesteaks. Yep. Also needed on the record,
Starting point is 02:50:02 my flex of the year for week 17 will be Dolphin's Patriots. Jake, how many boxes of the years have you had so far? You think that's going to be prom ton? I mean, right now it's Rand's Chargers. I would have to look at the schedule. Week 17. The schedule was pretty weak. I'm going to take a look at week 17 right now, Jake,
Starting point is 02:50:19 because that does sound like a week. Oh, it is a week schedule. It's a really weak schedule. It sounds like a week matchup. I could see it being Steelers Ravens just for the. But. Vikings Packers, if the Packers win. Oh, that.
Starting point is 02:50:29 That looks like a CBS locked game for 25. Okay. Yeah, no, this is a bad week. We got Bill's Bengals Monday night that week. But this is a terrible week of football. What do you guys think of the pick now? Yeah, I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
Starting point is 02:50:42 I do not hate it. Maybe Panthers Box, if that, if it breaks out. But like, will they actually do that? I don't know. Maybe they put my homes in there. They can't keep Rand's Chargers, right? No. Probably not.
Starting point is 02:50:51 They could just smash the Cowboys button. Yeah. Cowboys. No, they can't. They play Thursday night. No, okay. So they can't. No Cowboys button.
Starting point is 02:51:00 So yeah, this is a tough picking, but. That's my pick. Offence Patriots. Three balls just dropped off. Yeah, 17 just dropped off. Shut up. Are you serious? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:12 You lost 17. Hank's gonna think that was rigged. Wow. It literally just fell out. Rigged. It fell out. Everyone wants to fall out. Billy confirmed that it fell out as I was opening it.
Starting point is 02:51:26 Can confirm it fell out. Oh man, now Hank's gonna be like, oh, this is all rigged. Let's finish up. Oh no, they just sent us the thumbnail that we're using for tomorrow's show. Yeah. And it's Hank and he's crying. Oh no.
Starting point is 02:51:41 And he's crying. Well, you know what? I'm gonna say something that never said. I'm rooting for Hank to get the ping pong ball right now. He's gone through enough today. Patriots lost, the hungry dog lost, but that's kind of just every Sunday. He went on his buck speech when they were up 17-nothing.
Starting point is 02:52:01 I'm rooting for Henry Lockwood to get the ping pong ball today, right now. He'll get it. Have you ever gotten it, Hank? Nope. Oh, shit. I didn't realize that. Okay, numbers.
Starting point is 02:52:13 29. 29. Sebastian has 82. Shout to Maggie. Hey, what's up? PFC? Here we go, 17-17. 20.
Starting point is 02:52:24 Hank, can you give me a number, please? No. Please. No. Please. No. Hank, are you using your ball picks to flirt with listeners?
Starting point is 02:52:32 What was the... No, I just... You just said, stop, and you're like, butta. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Maggie is her name. Another person whose name is like butta. Also, that's the 29. What was the hungry dog of paint out today?
Starting point is 02:52:50 540. So I'll go 54. Yin and the Yang, 69. Nice, Billy. Real nice. Hank, rooting for you, 29. Let's do it. Thanks.
Starting point is 02:53:03 Come on. Come on, Hank. For one time, I'm rooting for you. Oh, I just saw 29. 100. 100. Oh, shit. I always forget that 100's even in there.
Starting point is 02:53:18 I know, three digits. I don't think any of us have ever picked 100. I might start. You really do suck at this thing. You weren't even close. Wait, would you pick, Hank? And I was rooting for you. Did you pick 100?
Starting point is 02:53:28 No, he picked 29. So far away. Is zero in there? No, one through 100, but it doesn't matter, Hank. I mean, I was rooting for you, dude. Interesting that that happened immediately after, you know, that suspicious activity right before, almost like you were making up for something.
Starting point is 02:53:44 You can watch 17 fall out. I'll be reviewing the tape. Okay, you review those tapes. I'm thinking that we should bring it. Let's get cash. I want to have cash on the table. For the last couple of shows. It feels like the stakes are higher
Starting point is 02:53:55 when you can see the dollar bills. You bring cash too. I mean, this is the penultimate week, so. Yeah, it is, yep. You're never getting it. Pilly's going to be terrified to come in and serve you. Can we not get the cash? Because then it's like, is someone going to take the cash
Starting point is 02:54:08 and they're like, is this cash okay? Well, you know who's not going to take the cash, Hank, because he's not going to get it right. I know, but then it's, then everyone knows, then everyone knows, Hank, guess what? I wasn't rooting for you. I love you guys. I wasn't rooting for you.
Starting point is 02:54:21 Then everyone knows there's cash in the room. Love you guys. Bucks diseases are usually spread by ticks caused by large predators being pushed out of environments causing the deer puppy to explode. Go king away, go king away I don't know what to say, I'm saying it anyway Jay is on my page, are you trying?
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