Pardon My Take - NFL Week 16, Lions Clinch The NFC North, Dolphins/Cowboys Narrative Bowl, Ravens Demolish Niners Plus A Call To Mike Florist

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

NFL Week 16 and we have a lot of Football to discuss. We start with Fastest 2 minutes and then get into every game from the past 3 days (00:00:00-00:08:41) Steelers 34, Bengals 11 (00:08:41-00:25:58...) Bills 24, Chargers 22 (00:25:58-00:33:18) Lions 30, Vikings 24 (00:33:18-00:44:56) Browns 36, Texans 22 (00:44:56-00:52:47) Falcons 29, Colts 10 (00:52:47-00:55:41) Jets 30, Commanders 28 (00:55:41-01:04:51) Seahawks 20, Titans 17 (01:04:51-01:08:39) Packers 33, Panthers 30 (01:08:39-01:13:57) Bucs 30, Jags 12 (01:13:57-01:21:31) Bears 27, Cardinals 16 (01:21:31-01:31:24) Dolphins 22, Cowboys 20 (01:31:24-01:41:54) Patriots 26, Broncos 23 (01:41:54-01:47:03) Raiders 20, Chiefs 14 (01:47:03-02:00:07) Eagles 33, Giants 25 (02:00:07-02:05:39) Ravens 33, Niners 19 (02:05:39-02:10:08) We then call our good friend Mike Florist to ask him how he feels after Lamar roasted him and finish with who's back of the week. (02:10:08-02:31:07)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, part of my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take, it is football with PFT and myself. Just the two of us, tight show, we do have Max producing, shout out Max for producing on Christmas Day. He will maybe chime in for the Eagles. It's a tight show though, we're going to talk about football. We have 15 games to get to. producing, shout out Max for producing on Christmas Day. He will maybe chime in for the Eagles. It's a tight show though. We're going to talk about football. We have 15 games to get to.
Starting point is 00:00:29 I feel like all I've been doing for the last three days is eating, putting presents together and watching football, just various points of football games. So we're going to talk about every game, the Lions, clinching the first NFC North title in history in their franchise history first home games since 1993. We have the Cowboys Dolphins, the narrative bowl, the fraud bowl. We're gonna talk Ravens Niners at the end
Starting point is 00:00:53 because we're taping it in the middle of the third quarter right now. So we got a lot of the chiefs done. The chiefs might be done is Travis Kelsey, has he lost all of his skills, a lot of football to get to. And we're doing it all together with the family plan. Now streaming on Apple TV plus starring Mark Wahlberg when his past catches up to
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Starting point is 00:01:56 right now. Watch the family plan now streaming on Apple TV plus read a PG 13. Okay, let's go. It's part of my take. There's an about our sports. Welcome to part of my take today is Tuesday, December 26th, weekend, 16. Let us be the last to wish you, America Christmas. I got my good friend Stella in the room so I can't too loud otherwise she'll wake up. We start on Saturday out in Los Angeles where Smith, the new chargers head coach, showed the team a gif of Tim Robinson in a hot dog suit as a locker room is still trying to find the guy who got Brandon Staley fired. Josh Allen Rickman said if the bills play off hopes are gonna die, they'll have to die hard.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Making plays every time he was snaped the football, passing for a touchdown and slithering for two more. The game was tight late, but Ryan Shakira, Shakira, hips did lie as he turned out to be down by contact, helping the bills bleed the clock and survive being electrocuted by the dead batteries. Bill's 24, Chargers 22. On Christmas Eve Eve, we go to Pittsburgh where Mason root off the red nose reindeer led to slaying on the bandals with a help of a giant sack by QJWat.
Starting point is 00:04:00 George Michaels pickens way up the secondary early and said, you're in a lot of trouble Kick brownings fudge everything up. Well as counterpart Mason was more accurate than the Cincinnati's who keep it Here we go Stoolers Here we go It's for it's probably not to fire their coach. Here we go. It's for 34 since the 11 Here we go. Pittsburgh 34.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Genji, I love it. Down to Houston, where a Mari started off the podcast saying, what's up, Daddy Gang? It's me, Father Cooper, here to gluck luck the life out of the Texans playoff hopes. As he and Joe Flacco with an F hooked up for 265 yards and two touchdowns. Case key bump couldn't snort life into the Texans offense
Starting point is 00:04:42 as Davis Millie, Davis Millzie Bobby Brown had to come in and command the 11 on offense. Even without Dustin Anthony Hopkins kicking for the better part of the game, the Browns were able to take a shortcut to happiness and all but clinch a playoff work. Browns 36, Texans 22. Down to Atlanta where Arthur Smith was going to get fired but then he got high. The offense was looking real tired but then he got high. There's probably going to still miss the playoffs but at least they'll try. Why man? Why man? Because he got high. Because he got high. Because he got high, Niki. The Falcons might have found a
Starting point is 00:05:23 spark for their offense but it's too ridder, too late for the dirty birds as Bijan slab on by Robinson tied the colds up like a ponytail on Shane's, stiking a blowjob day. Buckingham Palace, Gordner Menshu, was stoic after not doing his job and watching a very bad violent end if you're in Indiana. Falcons 29, coach Tyler.
Starting point is 00:05:43 We head to the windy city where Justin Trudeau fields bounce back after a terrible brown facing answering critics that ask can he play quarterback with a can I go. Khalil looked like he made the Cardinals deep and smoked some herb. Err before the game reminding everyone that tackling well high as a DUI as he went for over a hundred. Cole, how I commit your mother, Mazbito, along for 107 yards and the Bears comfortably won the game. Their last play being a QB Neopatric Harrods, Bears 27, Cardinal 16. We go over Minnesota where the Detroit Lions were officially looking to escape the ash label Thanks to Amman-Rot Taint Brown who found himself around balls all day long on defense
Starting point is 00:06:30 Ife2 should leave Millio Vapu had an interception as fellow sketch comedian Nick Molin is trying to find out who did this Dan Campbell dragged Minnesota out to sea until it was exhausted Then let their boat on fire giving them a Viking funeral to Miracaw Gibbs put the Vikings into virtual insanity, and they'll be dancing on the ceiling in Detroit, where they have won the division for the first time, since Hank Lockwood was one year old, crying and whining and pooping himself and sucking on boobies, much like he still is, to this very day. Lion's party, Vikings 24! We head over to Philadelphia with our correspondent, Maxwell Delente. Hey!
Starting point is 00:07:10 We head over to Philadelphia where the Giants finally sent Tommy DeVito, sleeping with the Southern dishes. Shaco Neil Lunder had the Eagles band saying, I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your game. As he finally had his first good game with the Eagles Boston Scott Strat got absolutely level by his own teammate leaving his arms wide open Resulting in the most embarrassing turn overs since the butt However, the Andre Taylor Swift was able to find blank space late and burn in a clap with the Eagles to win ugly Eagle 33 giant 25
Starting point is 00:07:42 He's burned in a claph of the eagle to win ugly. Eagle's 33, giant's 25. We finish in Nazareth on the holiest of holidays with Schwamm. Schwamm? We go to Bethlehem, where? Watch that up in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's the original one star recruit.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Jesus Christ, getting the most unlikely birth since we wrote the bills off a month ago. His mom was a virgin. That's why we say Merry Christmas. Despite offers from smaller walk on plants Jesus chose her for the opportunity to start right ahead going from walk on to walk on water and record time for this coach's son. And now 2000 years later, if you watch a sky on Christmas you'll see my good friend sexy red Santa red, Santa Claus saying, catch me on my sled, rot, and dirty. Eat milk and cook is way in 330 other holidays, a relevant, like Brock party. And oh, no, what's that stealing all the presents? It's a crunch. No worries. He saw the Travis Kelsey Pfizer commercial and his heart
Starting point is 00:08:41 who three sizes that day. According to my dear close personal friend, Jersey Jerry, Merry Christmas. All right, that was week 15 fastest two minutes, brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a new family with unstoppable grit and they're the official partners, the part might take family and that is the Chevy Silverado ZR2 family.
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Starting point is 00:09:51 We're ready to talk football. Should we, I know we're gonna talk Raven's Niners at the end, but was that Brock Pertis fourth interception that we just watched? Yeah, Brock Pertis having a bad, bad night. He's having a worst night amongst the two quarterbacks, one of whom tripped over referee and had a safety in the end zone. So pretty pretty bad night for Brock Pertis. I hope he'll be I hope he'll figure it out. There's still a lot of time left though. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah, well, we have we'll have to there's a lot of time left that I did just chance it because I did say I'm officially over the ref safety because I was arguing about it. You know, you could tell when you, when someone has a lot of money on a game, because they're arguing points forever, I was, I was getting into the weeds with the ref safety with all the people saying that Lamar Jackson, it was his fault and the ref had nothing to do with it. And then after like 20 minutes, it's like, I'm over it, knowing that I wasn't over it. So I just did say I'm over it officially because the Ravens were easy. I didn't realize there was 11 and a half minutes left to the third quarter. That
Starting point is 00:10:50 was a lot of time. Yeah. When I looked down, I swear to God, I looked down at the clock. I saw 11 minutes left and I thought to myself, that's got to be a mistake that they mean fourth quarter. There's 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. No, there's a lot of ball left. But the way Kyle Hamilton's playing right now, it doesn't look good for Brock Pretty, but it's funny that people are arguing in favor of like the referees on that call. They were doing like, well, Lamar should have been hanging out in that neighborhood at night if he didn't want bad things to happen. This is like, he, the referee literally tripped over his own feet as he was backpedaling, laughed on his way down like, oh, fuck, I'm really screwing this up. Lamar fell over him through a pass that he probably would have been able to get to
Starting point is 00:11:30 the line of scrimmage. Yeah. I don't think he wasn't going to be able to get away from chase young because chase young was kind of on top of that moment. I still think he might have been able to like, this is Lamar. You would have definitely, it's the one guy. It's the one guy who like, if any other player, I would have, I would have absolutely conceded
Starting point is 00:11:47 the chase young would have sacked him. Lamar Jackson is the one guy who we've seen time and time again, allude everyone, right? Big Ben would have just shrugged him off and walked out the ends of with him on his shoulders. He would have, yeah, he at the very minimum would have been able to throw the ball down, feel and get out of his, it was a weird play by Lamar,
Starting point is 00:12:04 it's begin with. But let's not act like a referee falling over his own dick and then tripping a quarterback and causing a safety is something that we're just going to be willing to say, you know, what that's part of the game of football. Yes. Yes. So we will discuss this game in its entirety once it goes final, because there is a lot of time left. I had no idea. But yes, you have part of my take today. It is via zoom. Just me and PFT talking ball tight show. We had a lot of ball, though.
Starting point is 00:12:32 That was the last three days when we have this many windows of NFL, it's like, it's like a fever dream of NFL where it's like, I just don't know when game stops start. I just feel like I'm always watching a moment while trying to do a billion different other things. I would have the holidays no other way though. Yeah, the Saints Rams game was on Thanksgiving. That's how long I'd go. That took place. I think that was this week.
Starting point is 00:12:57 A part of me really liked how they spread it out. I would have preferred to get two games on Christmas, maybe the three games on Christmas Eve Eve. On Saturday. Yeah. But what this weekend has taught me is that if the NFL wanted to, they could put three games on Friday, three games on Saturday. I don't know how many that would make for Sunday, like six games on Sunday, and then three
Starting point is 00:13:21 more on Monday. And I would, that would be a perfect week inform. Yes, I would do it. I would do it. Absolutely do it. Just football on it all times. So yeah, let's get into it. Let's start with the first game, which does feel like it was 10 years ago. Steelers 34, Bengals 11. I want to shout out the Steelers just off the top because there are certain games that you need in time slots during the holidays to be blowouts that you can go like one eye on one eye off. And this was that game.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I got all my kids into the car and I was like, we're going to the winter wonderland at Riggly because when the Steelers were up, whatever it was, 24 points in the first half, like this is perfect. This is borrowed time. I knew I had to say I had to work and now I get to basically be like, guess what? Christmas miracle daddy's taking you guys to rigley. So thank you to the Steelers for that. But this was the George Pickenski. He had the Randy Moss stat line where he had four catches 195 yards and two touchdowns where it's just
Starting point is 00:14:23 it was the George Pickenski. It doesn't excuse everything George Pickens done this year. It just confirms that George Pickens is worth the headache because he has this in him. Well, it definitely excuses George Pickens behavior to George Pickens. Yes, for sure. Like now you can't, you literally cannot tell George Pickens anything because they'll say, you remember that game against the, the Bengals or Mason Rudolph through for like 150 yards in the first quarter. And it's because he was throwing the ball all the time to me. Like that is I bet you he also found something to be upset with after the game with this
Starting point is 00:14:57 offense that they still didn't get in the ball enough. But it does show that George Pickens, when you throw him the ball, he is he is really fucking good. He's probably still following Mason Rudolph on Instagram right now, right? Yes, yes, definitely. I guess he gave him the superfollow, probably on X. He's subscribed to him. Maybe paying him a small monthly fee. But Mason Rudolph, I'm looking up right now.
Starting point is 00:15:18 He had 129 yards in the first quarter. It's the most passing yards for a quarterback with no one completions in the first quarter of the season over two ahead one where he went for 113, the homes went for 107 Herbert had one where he went for 120. So and also we told you this was coming. Yeah. You're going to get a Mason Rudolph game on Christmas Eve Eve. That's just how it's going to work out. I also like, I was happy for Mason Rudolph because I don't think anyone's had a, oh, there's definitely been weirder careers. Maybe I don't know exactly how to describe
Starting point is 00:15:49 his career because, first of all, it doesn't feel like you know any third string quarterbacks, right? Third string quarterbacks are usually guys who are only going to play in an emergency. Mason Rudolph, it feels like it's been on the Steelers for a while and just sucked up being the third string quarterback. And then obviously he had the Miles Garrett situation where, didn't Miles Garrett say that he had said something and then we all just said, oh, okay, Mason Rudolph said something race like it, the narrative on Mason Rudolph, he's just kind of sat quietly as a third string quarterback for all these years after having a really bad moment.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And now he gets this and I was happy for him. Like that's, I don't know how to describe his career, but you know what I'm saying? Like most third string quarterbacks, we don't really know their names, or they'll just be journey men, you'll bring them in, like the old cut them, you'll bring them in again. Mason Rudolph, we've known for a very long time. Yeah, and so he was known for having a face
Starting point is 00:16:42 that was so punchable that we were kind of like, oh, awesome. When Miles Garrett hit him in the head with a helmet. Oh, and also, so yeah, that and also the concussion when they had to take off his face mask. That was just his two moments. Yeah. His two moments. And, and I'll, I'll say this about me. It's real off. He's gotten way less punchable. It might be he grew up the hair a little bit. Maybe just he grew up a little bit. I looked at him and I was like, you know what? I almost, I felt bad that I laughed when he got it and hit in the head with a helmet by Miles Garrett. I have seen some, some Steelers fans calling Miles Garrett, Miles Smollett, who after that,
Starting point is 00:17:17 because they never produced any evidence of any sort of racist comment. I'm not going to get in, I'm not going to dive deep into that and figure out one way to other. I just know that at the time, the night of the assault, it was funnier than it should have been, just simply because we didn't like Mason Rudolph's face. Right. And so now it's like, I feel like kind of a shit head for not liking his face so much that he had hit.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And that's all we knew him for, and it was, you're absolutely right, because it was a fucked up confirmation bias where we didn't like his face, and then someone said something like, we knew him for and it was you're absolutely right because it was a fucked up confirmation bias where we didn't like his face and then someone said something like, oh, he's actually a shithead. We're like, yeah, no duh. We've been saying this forever because of his face. So I hand up Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I feel bad how it's gone, but this was an awesome moment. I was happy for him. And the other part of this game, now we are a Jake Browning podcast because he does listen, but I do appreciate Jake Browning. When a guy decides to turn back into a pumpkin, I like when they do it with such authority, you're like, oh, yeah, there it is. We don't have to play this game anymore. That interception he threw into the end zone where it looked like in the first half, where
Starting point is 00:18:20 it looked like it was maybe 10 seconds left in a game on a fourth down. He's like, I just have to throw it somewhere. But it was, it was, I think the middle of the second quarter and there was no need for him to throw it. That was his pumpkin moment. It's like, okay, that was fun. Good that we know this. Let's move on. He cemented himself as a gunslinger. That was a gunslinger throw, for sure. And I, I actually, this, this was a game when I was watching it. I said to myself,
Starting point is 00:18:46 this game proves how little I know about the NFL. Seeing the Steelers dominating this game that I was sure, I think everybody was sure that the bangles were going to compete. I did not, you can't tell me that you saw the Steelers blow out. No, no, no, but what we said on Friday was this was Mike Tomlin Steelers legacy culture on the line, right? So like it wasn't that surprising that the Steelers had that because Mike Tomlin Whatever you want to say about him. He will find his way to nine wins. He's gonna find his way to nine wins They had to win this game to find his win. I was just shocked by all the points. I was shocked at how good the Steelers looked I thought that yeah, I did think that the Steelers had had a chance at winning a game by five, maybe even six points.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I did not see a blow of a comment at all. So it was a good reminder that that as much football as we watch, and we should be experts on it, given how much we walk and talk about, nobody out there is really, we don't know what's going to happen. And you know, and you know, the Mike Tomlin path is set because if the Ravens win this game and there's eight minutes left, they're up 18. And then they'd be minutes in the third and they beat the dolphins next week. The Ravens will not be starting anyone in week 18. And my Tomlin will get his way to the ninth to the ninth win. He will find who to the ninth win. They'll lose the Z Hawks at Seattle. And then he'll beat backups for the Ravens, not trying to be like, see nine wins.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I don't even think it's that crazy that the that the sealers make the playoffs. And I'm all fucked up because the playoff machine on ESPN.com has been broken for a week. And they haven't fixed it. Fix it. I don't know who's the who's in charge of Disney? Who's that guy? It fixed it. I don't know who's in charge of Disney? Who's that guy? It's bullshit. That guy, this is a Bob. Bob Iger.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Bob Iger, this is a bridge too far, Bob. Unless you're planning on paying us hundreds of millions of dollars at some point, your piece of shit for not fixing the playoff machine because this is really thrown away the only real tool that I have in terms of projecting football analysis. But I have a feeling like the Steelers could, it's way more likely than the 12, 13% odds that they're giving them. Because I think what has to happen is they need the Jaguar to lose a game, right? Yep. Which the Jaguar is a really good at losing games right now.
Starting point is 00:21:01 They probably could. Then the Steelers would need to win out. And then I think the Colts and the Texans, they play each other. They can't finish with, they play each other. So if the Jaguars lose a game and the Steelers went out, I think the Steelers would make the playoffs. I think it just even is just the Texans or Colts. Like if the, I mean, if the Steelers win out, if which, if the Ravens aren't playing anyone, a week 18, that could very well, like if the, I mean, if the Steelers went out, if which, if the Ravens aren't playing anyone in week 18, that could very well, like they got a BTC out on then beat a bunch backups. I think they'll, they'll, they'll do it just from that because the detections
Starting point is 00:21:33 and Colts play each other. But yeah, it's, we could get, listen, it's Mason Rudolph, I might be back in on the Steelers. We might, we might get a little back to back. I think if, if the Steelers were to beat the Ravens in that final game of the season, they might get a rematch week one. No, the Ravens are week two. Yeah, you're right. They'll be the ones who start anyone if they're the ones who have to beat the dolphins. Yeah. Last thing I had on this game was, uh, remember when Miles Jack were retired to be a plumber? Yeah. Because he was awesome in this game. And he signed back with
Starting point is 00:22:05 the CEO. He was awesome. Like he, he announced that he was retiring. He's like, I'm going to go to trade school and be an electrician or a plumber. And then he's just playing really good football for the Steelers who have, they have no one in their secondary left. Like the besides their defensive line feels like everyone has been hurt or suspended. Um, and they played a good game. They, they, I mean, they shut down Jake Browning who was the hottest quarterback for a while for two weeks. I stretch. I also think that Pittsburgh would be the worst city to be a plumber. Yeah. Maybe, maybe Cincinnati actually because of the chili, but, um, Pittsburgh would definitely be in my top three. Well, you know, there's the Pittsburgh toilet.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Have you ever heard of the Pittsburgh toilet? Is that the one where it's back-to-back? No, it's a, and this is from our good friend Nick Torani, who's one of the funniest guys in the world. He, we had this revelation, maybe a year ago, he thought like everyone had this. It's just in the basement, a toilet that's just free standing with no walls around it. Oh, no, I didn't know that. I know that at all.
Starting point is 00:23:09 No, no, it's technically like Pittsburgh toilet, but he was like, yeah, I've grown up, I saw it. Like he grew up in West Virginia, but not too far from Pittsburgh. The West Virginia, part of West Virginia is kind of Pittsburgh. It's where Florial lives. Yeah. Right. And he was like, wait, you guys didn't have just a free standing toilet in your basement? And we're like, no, we did not. It might be just like a bird bath that was down in Nick's basement. He was like, oh yeah, that's my toilet. That's where you take a piss.
Starting point is 00:23:34 But what's the toilet called? Where it's back to back? Where there's two toilets and you share like a back and a side so you can poop facing the opposite direction. I don't know. I don't know what that is. That's a good one too. But just thinking of a bunch of yinzers, just sitting in a basement with no walls around, just taking a big old dump. It's kind of rocks.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like you get all the space like you can probably see your TV. They actually might have figured out life better than anyone else. 360 degree toilet. Did I ever tell you about the time I went to a concert and I was scarred for life from this? I was, I think, maybe 16 years old. I drove out to go see Poison Play. And there's this giant venue that was like right outside my hometown in the bathroom there.
Starting point is 00:24:18 They had a big toilet, like a big urinal trough style in the middle of the bathroom, but it was a circle. And so it was like a circular firing squad. It was probably 20 feet wide in diameter, so it was just probably 30 dudes pissing towards each other. Like just full on Dix exposed. At all times. I'm traumatized from that. I'm never gonna recall, 16-year-old,
Starting point is 00:24:42 that was my personal Vietnam. The toilet story, we should just do a whole toilet stories podcast because there's a there's a bar in Lincoln Park called Duffy's. It's a Michigan bar. And so like it's packed on Saturdays. And I was there. I was probably like 15 years ago. I don't even know if it's still there. But it was one of those bathrooms that had like 10 urinals and then just a toilet with no walls. So it was just a toilet at the end. And I remember one of the funniest things I've ever seen was like everyone was pissing in there
Starting point is 00:25:11 and some guy just came in, it was maybe like, I don't know, 12, 30 in the morning. Like, or 12, 30, you know, in the afternoon, like kick off, you know, is 11 a.m. So it was like a half time. He just comes in, he's like, I gotta do it. And he just sat down and took a shit in front of like 15 dudes. And it was just like everyone was cheering him on.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Like, yes, dude, you got it too. Go for it. Go for it. I could go on. I got a million toilet. We'll do that like in the summer. Yeah, we'll just do like the toilet episode. Yeah, the toilet stories.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Okay, so next game. Yeah, the the the the the Bengals are are pretty much eliminated. I think this I think it's now 12. Okay, so next game. Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and seven. And then the NFC actually, yeah, the NFC is mostly seven and eight. Yeah, right. It's crazy. So next game, bills, chargers, bills survive. I think that's the perfect way to say it. This was a classic bills 2023 game where it looked exactly like the Jets Game week one
Starting point is 00:26:24 or the Broncos game on Monday and I football where the bills were just basically trying every which way to blow this game. And if it weren't for Gabe Davis, who is the best receiver in the world once every like five weeks, the bills could have lost this game pretty easily because like the gifts Smith bounce back for the chargers and Eastern stick. The chargers look like they had life again and they gave everything to the bills They played hard. Yeah, I bet you there's like a million people out there that have Gabe Davis on their fancy teams That didn't start them this weekend too because he's picking as well Easy ultimate where where was Gabe Davis this weekend like every time you start him
Starting point is 00:27:03 He stinks every time you start him, he stinks every time you sit him, he's awesome. There's going to be a lot of people that will not be renewing their contracts with Gabe Davis this off season. He's Yeah, it was it. They they had to win this game, must win for the bills. They wanted it was pretty ugly. It was kind of dicey going. There was a beautiful moment actually at the end of the game. Where Easton stick had the ball in his hands, driving down the field to win the game.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And within I think 10 seconds of each other, me and Big Cat both tweeted out too much time for Easton stick. And when it comes to sarcastically rooting on backup quarterbacks, we get synced up like sorority girls in our periods. So it's just a beautiful, beautiful moment. It turns out there actually was too much time for Easton stick. You could have given them the ball for forever, probably wouldn't have happened. But the bills had to win it and they see it.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It seems like the bills will definitely make the playoffs. They're not like locked into their spot yet, but I would put a lot of money on the bills making the playoffs right now. It seems pretty clear they will. And, you know, we obviously get accused a lot of being, you know, bills, sympathizers because we are glazers. We're glazers. We're good friends with Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:28:12 The only thing I'd clarify, because we've said this, I gave the speech before the chiefs game when I was like, if you like the bills to be the chiefs, take them 35 to one to win the Super World because they have seized wide open. And it's not saying that the bills aren't, it's not saying the bills are some world beating team. It's that the rest of the pack has come back to the bills. Like the bills are a jekyll and hide team this year. They've had performances where they've looked incredible
Starting point is 00:28:37 and they've had dog-ship performances that put them in this hole to start with. And like, would it shock you if the bills lost to the Patriots next week? No, because that's what they, that's their whole season. They already lost the Patriots once. But it's more that the rest of the AFC has come back to the bills where it's just a mess outside of the Ravens of teams. And I guess you could throw in the dolphins now of teams that like, just don't look that great. And the bills are starting to rattle off some winds here that they're
Starting point is 00:29:04 kind of getting some confidence. I still think the bills kind of stink, but the difference between the bills now and the bills earlier this season is in the desperate moments, the bills can like channel that desperation and use all that emotion and do something good with it. Whereas earlier this season, they would channel all that desperation emotion and throw an interception or they would they would commit to costly turnover and fumble ball. There were some fumbling issues too in this game, but I feel like their desperate moments
Starting point is 00:29:29 are way more productive now than they were like two months ago. I, the perfect way to say the 2023 bills, they're A plus game, I think, is up there with anyone else's A plus game. Like they, I think if they bills played an A plus game, they can beat the Niners, they can beat the Ravens, they can beat all these teams.
Starting point is 00:29:48 The problem is their A plus game doesn't show up ever, really, like they've done it a couple of times and the rest of their performances, they can lose to the Panthers. Their volatility is so insane that like, if you put the bills versus the Panthers right now, you'd be crazy to say, yeah, it's gonna be the bills will 100% win this game, whereas if you put the bills versus the Panthers right now you you'd be crazy to say yeah It's gonna be the bills will 100% win this game Whereas if you put like the Niners I know the Niners are getting killed right now
Starting point is 00:30:10 But the Niners versus Panthers I put my life on it, you know what I'm saying like the Ravens versus Panthers I put my life on it. So I think that's what the bills are the the fumbles The bills have an issue because James Cook is electric But much like, you know, a horror movie when they'll like, like, scream used to do this when the scream franchise came out. They'll have a moment in the first 10 minutes of the movie where they'll do like a fake, a fake, you know, murderer pops up and it's like, oh, it's just a guy like, you know, knocking on his girlfriend's car window. She got scared. She thought she was about to be murdered. That's how I feel
Starting point is 00:30:48 like James Cook's fumbles are. Like, we know the foreshadowing. We've seen it. It's the fake scare and it's going to show up in the playoffs and it's going to kill. Like, that's going to be the murder because he is so electric and you have to have him on the field, but the fumbles now are it feels like it's become more of a thing That he's got like maybe it's the mini Yips where it's just it's happened enough where I'm like, oh this probably is gonna be how they die Do we still get coaches that make players carry out a football all week like we did in the movies and Necessary roughness James Coo should carry two footballs around at all times. Don't use your hands on anything. Just have it on the big skin, high and tight.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And then everybody gets to try to hit them out all day long. And you put a bounty on causing a fumble. And every team has this. Every team, every contending team has the one thing in the back of their head where they know, like, oh, this has become a thing that has happened enough where when we dive because of this, this has become a thing that has happened enough where when we dive because of this, we can't be that shocked because we saw it all season long.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Once the playoff start, we should make a graphic of like the back of the head items for each team. Yeah. And Josh Allen's interceptions are also on that, like to be fair. I mean, he had another one on Saturday. But yeah, there's that one thing that everyone has. I mean, I think about the 2018 Bears when Cody Parkie, like, you didn't think I knew Cody Parkie sucked.
Starting point is 00:32:10 He had the game where he hit four straight doinks. Like that's, like, you have that one thing in the back of your head that you're like, if we get into a crunch time situation, it's a lot of times it's special teams, like your punning team or your kicker, but a guy fumbling, you're like, uh, oh, this is going to happen in a bad situation. We're not going to be over cover.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yeah. For Derek, we should add Darren Revel at the end of the list. And back of his head, JFK is back of his head. Yeah. Um, well, we should release our head. Yeah, the thing that everyone's scared about. Yeah. Um, one other fun stat from this game.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Did you know that Leonard Fernet is 28 years old? I saw you treat that, and yeah, that bummed me out. You probably looked it up, huh? Well, no, I saw it, and obviously I trusted you. I was like, damn, is he the new Randall Cobb? He's 28 years old, Leonard Fernet has, Leonard Fernet has never been alive for Detroit Lions Division
Starting point is 00:33:05 Championship. It's crazy. I have another one for you. Mike Evans is 30. I didn't realize that. That is crazy. Yeah. That's not true. Like you just turn it. Yeah. The fact that Leonard Fernet looked like he was 30 when he was 18 years old in college. Yeah. Doesn't help items. Yeah. But yeah, he's, he's 20 years old, which in blogging years, he is a blogger. That is like 40. Yes. Yes. I saw you treat that.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I was like, fuck man, he is a new rental cop. But yeah, it's good to see Lenny back out there. Okay. Powering on to Sunday. Lions 30 Vikings 24. The Lions have done it. They have won their first ever NFC North title. It was the NFC Central, obviously, you know, 20 plus years ago, whatever it was,
Starting point is 00:33:47 when the box were in it, which was weird. But anyway, the lines have done it. They've done it. They've won the NFC North first playoff game, home playoff game they're going to have since 1993. First home playoff game at Ford Field, which was constructed in 2002. They did it in classic Lions fashion, too, where it was almost a complete, complete disaster because they had that game. They come out, they look great. First couple drives awesome. Then the Vikings come roaring back and then Hockinson gets hurt and Addison gets hurt. So Lions kind of find themselves. Nick Mullen just throwing the ball everywhere. I want to get to him in a minute. But that,
Starting point is 00:34:28 I thought that that was going to be the most Lions way ever to lose when on that last drive, John Kaminsky, who is one of the defensive linemen, tried to pick up the fumble instead of falling on it. And then Nick Mullen's hits like Justin Jefferson down the field on the next player the two plays after and they were often running. I thought that was going to be the moment. Like the Lions were about to win the NFC North. And all he had to do was fall on that ball. Instead he tried to scoop and score it.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And the Lions are going to be doing, but they're not those Lions anymore. They're not the same old Lions. I'm happy for Lions fans. Dan Campbell was on the Owen 16 team. He had all the like the old guys come up and get the game ball, which was awesome in the locker room. Like I know that winning division titles, there's still work to be done and you can't celebrate that much. Fuck that. Lions fans should celebrate the fuck out of this because that's a that's insult, you know, stat that it's been 30 years.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And you had a home playoff game, never want to end it. See North now you get to erase all that. Yeah, kind of a loser move usually when teams go out there and they have all this like division champion merch that gets printed up and like fans buy that stuff. In this case, every Lions fan should own a piece of 2023 North division champions that you should oh you should own a piece of that merchandise You should wear that should be like what you wear to church. The people should get buried in that stuff It is It's like a life-changing event for people that live in Detroit that have watched so much bad football over the years
Starting point is 00:36:00 And it's been really bad football and to stick through that and I saw they got they got Decker and And it's been really bad football and to stick through that. And I saw they got they got Decker and rag now up to the center of the locker room. Yeah, they were like, hey, the old school guys that have been around for a while, like they were part of changing. That's got to be so hard to like the middle toughness that it would need to take to go to play on some of those awful, awful teams and then turn everything around entirely to the point where you're not just winning your division, you're winning your division with two games left in the year. You're like dominating your division.
Starting point is 00:36:27 That's like a massive, massive turnaround where you had to be so mad. I want to know what was going through their heads when they were playing on their worst team that they were on. And like what type of individual can suffer and last through that and still be able to make something good out the other side because it's a very cool story and I know we did blind resumes last week. I have one more blind resume for you. Yeah, but just to say, I want to hear the blind resume, but that's like the fact that Dan Campbell was on the O and 16 team is one of the coolest stories.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Like did he has come back and taken him to this point because it has been just years and years of sadness and terrible things because But go ahead, plan resume. Blind resume season. Quarterback one. This individual has 3,984 yards, 27 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. Quarterback two has 3,648 yards, 23 touchdowns, nine interceptions. So it's 39,3900 to 3600. And it's 27 touchdowns to 23 touchdowns. Jared golf and patch from my homes. Jared golf is the first one. You nailed that one.
Starting point is 00:37:33 The second one, Matthew Stafford. Oh, okay. Isn't that interesting. Isn't that interesting thing? He did play. He did play a couple less games, but still I we're not going to talk about that. I want to say all this is blind resume. Like I don't want to talk. Yes, it's blind resume. The stats are what the stats are right now. Jerry golf, more yards, more touchdowns and only one more interception than Matthew staff. And listen, we get your best of bill, your best ability is your availability. That's a fact, right? That's a fact. Jerry golf has been very available. Yeah. Matt's effort doesn't get hurt. The Rams would already be in the playoffs. They probably already clinched. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to do any negative line stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Like I don't want to talk about their defense. I don't want to talk about any because it's just, it's good for that. And I, I, I know they are division rival. I was, I was clarifying online. Like I'm happy for Lions fans. I'm not happy the Lions are good. I want the line.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I want the Bears to be better than the Lions. But in terms of like, if you are as a sports fan can't take a step back for one second and just say, hey, I'm happy for those fans because that's like you finally get that monkey off your back where people can stop talking about it. That's really what it is. It's not like mission accomplished. We won, you know, the division were happy with that. I think all Lions fans want to go fuck, we want to go win a Super Bowl. Of course they do. Yeah. But it's, it's more just like the narrative and the stats and the fact that it's been this long since a home playoff game, like you get to erase all that and that's got to feel good. Yeah, it's, it's very tough to root for an entire city to just feel bad. You're a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Right. If you can't, if you're rooting for Detroit Lions fans, I never have any joy. You're a thief of joy and you should feel bad about yourself. I'm actually thinking about this. I'm actually thinking about this. That's how many years. Yeah, I was gonna say how many years. So for you, the Cowboys, for me,
Starting point is 00:39:17 for Max as well, the Cowboys, for me, the Packers, how many years would they have to not make the playoffs for me to then be happy for them? I think it'd have to not make the playoffs for me to then be like happy for them. I think it'd have to be like 60. I'd have to be like 98 years old. Yeah. And like, oh, yeah. I guess you guys can get one thing with Cowboys fans and Maxwell backed me up on this.
Starting point is 00:39:37 They do act like they're super bowl favorites every single season. And that was going through the years where they didn't they never want to play off game. Like they didn't win a playoff game until what like 2016, that was like their first win in something like 20 years. They still acted going into every season like they were the hot shit. Right. And and and every other team was beneath them. But I think, I think probably for them not making the playoffs, I would start to feel bad for Cowboys fans after I think, I think 50, I think 50 years is the right amount. Max is shaking his head, which makes me think, I think the rule for this is everyone gets
Starting point is 00:40:14 one team in every sport where it's like no amount of years because I'm thinking about it even. And it's obviously tricky because it also has to coincide with your team not being good. Like if the Bears were eight, seven and eight right now fighting for the NFC North, I would feel a lot different, you know, I'd feel a lot different about the lines when the NFC North. I'm thinking about it, if the Bears sucked and the Vikings won a Super Bowl, I would feel happy for Vikings fans. I would. I'd be pissed, but I'd feel happy for the fans.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Like, so I think there's one team that you can be like, I will never feel happy for them no matter what. There's also a factor if you're a, if you're also a shitty team, sometimes you just want a team to be worse than yours. Yeah. And I think like Browns and Lions fans have had that going back at each other for a very long time, where it's like, as the song goes, we're not, at least we're not Detroit. If you're Cleveland, right? I met a, I met a sect of, of Brown's Twitter that thinks the Browns are a better organization overall than the Bears.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And like I'm not, I'm not saying the Bears are great organization, but I met this sect of Twitter and I don't know where these people exist, but like they're like, yeah, we're a better organization than you. They've been with the exception. With the exception of the Dallas Cowboys, I would say that I will root for any team that's been through the misery that Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns historically have been
Starting point is 00:41:33 through. Correct. So happy for Lions fans. The only thing other thing I had in this game is Nick Mollens is fun. Four hundred yards and four interceptions is fun. I don't care. I know that it like that duck that he threw, sucked, but he, when you sit down and you watch a football game,
Starting point is 00:41:49 if it's a backup quarterback, you want to be entertained. And he's one of those backup quarterbacks that will entertain you. It will be a roller coaster. It will be all over the place. But he's fun. And I like watching him play football. Yeah, there's a lot of backup quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:42:02 that are just kind of bummers. Right. I would put Eastern stick right now in that category. We'll see what Eastern stick becomes. A lot of quarterbacks don't get the luxury of developing out of their just depressing phase and to actually being fun while also being depressing. Nick Mullins, you can win a game in Dick Mullins. He's infinitely more likely to lose you a game and do it in a hilarious manner, but he doesn't lack for confidence. Right. And so I will watch a game when Nick Mullins and it for sure. And how quickly, if you're, if you're a Detroit sports fan and you
Starting point is 00:42:32 are presented with the trade, like, uh, that trade meme, I offer you, uh, one lion's division championship. And then I receive, uh, the Detroit Pistons not winning a game for the rest of the year. How quickly do you think they make that trade? Every time, right? Every single time. This is, that's how good this lion season is for Detroit fans, where they can just be like, oh yeah, the Pistons are, they suck, but I don't care.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah, no, it doesn't matter at all. I mean, and the Pistons have won in their past, I mean, they actually have some history whereas the lions, I know like pre-superboy are a, but yeah, fuck it. I'm also an anonymous person who may be on this podcast right now has offered two tickets to Detroit Don and superfan if the lions do make it to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:43:19 It's awesome, Max. Thank you. Huge for you, Max. You want to match? I'll match. So we got to find two, Max. You wanna match? I'll match. So we gotta find two other lion's fins. I'll match. You can't do that,
Starting point is 00:43:30 I mean, like of course I'm gonna match. How about your matches, you just get him a flight? That's fair. How much do you think the tickets are gonna cost? It's the lions are in the Super Bowl? Yeah. Like 10 grand each.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You know what, I'll do it, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll dig deep. Is it season?. I'll dig deep. It's a season. It's for this year We're gonna go year by year We're gonna go year by year this season We're gonna say I'm not saying like extending it to infinity. Yes, I will probably extend my personal one to infinity which you can then decide to match or not I'm matching for this year. Yeah, this year. This year. It's much like my cold tickets that you're matching this year, not next year. Yeah, so we got to find two hard
Starting point is 00:44:10 core Detroit Lions fans out there. Eminem. I'll buy you tickets. Did you see Eminem's sweet? Yeah, you said I did it. Did it? And then he responded to himself saying we didn't, damn it. Still figuring out how to use this thing. We also had Calvin Johnson, which I don't know if this was why he did this, but it was so funny. The Lions tweeted congrats to Calvin Johnson in 2021 when he got when he got decided that he was being inducted into the Hall of Fame. And on on Sunday, after the Lions clinched the NFC North, he responded and was like, thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Like always love, always love Detroit. He was breathing. You know what I think he probably did? He doesn't tweet much, does he? No. He probably logged on to Twitter and then went to his notifications and then saw that like a porn bot, like that tweet from the Lions and that's the most recent thing that he saw. And like some, some bots scraped it and then he was like, oh fuck,
Starting point is 00:45:05 I forgot to respond to this one. Now it's a good time. Yes. Yes. Okay. Next game, Browns 36, Texans 22, Joe fucking Flacco and a Mari Cooper. Holy shit. That was incredible. Like, Joe Flacco, he, it was a perfect Joe Flacco game because it was the first pass was a 55 yard pass down the field. And like, oh, Joe's in his bag today. He even threw in a couple of interceptions that were vintage Flacco interceptions. The Browns, I know this game, like, if you look at the, the score 3622, you think it was close, it was never close.
Starting point is 00:45:38 They completely suffocated the Texans. The Texans had a kick return. And other than that, I think the, the yardage was like 400 to 100 going into the fourthans. The Texans had a kick return and other than that, I think the yardage was like 400 to 100 going into the fourth quarter. So it was in the in the in the Browns lost a kicker, too. They lost Dustin Hopkins on the kick return. So they were going for it on every fourth down, but Joe Flacco. I mean, that was I'm starting to think that the Browns might go to the Super Bowl. Browns live. I'm I'm Joe Fleckham might be better without a kicker. Burn the boats.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Just like just throw that fucking football. Just throw the ball so high in the air that comes down with a little bit of God on it and our Marikoopers out there and he's going to catch every single one that you throw. That's a 50 50 ball. So, um, Fleckham is good. He's playing good enough right now where the Browns can make a Super. For sure. In the last three games he's had a thousand fifty three yards eight touchdowns and he just looks good he had just he had two plays where i was like
Starting point is 00:46:34 what the fuck is going on with joe flacco one where he like danced around the pocket flipped his hips a few times scrambled out and just through a dark down field and another one where he was getting wrapped up by two guys he was getting getting hit low, wrapped around his knees, and he was getting hit in his throwing arm and shoulder as he threw it. And he threw like a 25 yard missile. And like if you're throwing the ball like that, yes, you can win a Super Bowl if your defense continues to be like the best in the league by far. So I'm not saying that the Browns are going to win the Super, but I am saying that if it's a Browns Lions Super Bowl, we might have to look in to get in some Browns fans.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Some tickets. Imagine we're going to go broke this year. We'll have to go. We'll have to go with, like, we'll have to bring some Browns and Lions fans and sit in between them because they, whoever loses will try to fight you know that We have to get you know what you think that we'll get the drunk browns fan Yes, yes, but you know who I'm talking about There's thousands of people listening this podcast right now. We're like, oh shit me when I said drunk Bernie Koso are gonna spend us when I said drunk browns, they're like Bernie Kosoah are gonna spend us. Yeah, everyone knows who I'm talking about the drunk browns. Yeah, yes, the Joe Flacco went from this is a cool story. He's
Starting point is 00:47:52 back. This is fun to wait. Joe Flacco's playing his balls off and the browns like with the Mari Cooper, it's it's crazy. I have a name for you, PFT. Does the name, let me find it. Where is it? I put it down. Oh, Matt, well, let's go. Ring a bell. Matt, well, let's go. No, okay. That's who the Cowboys drafted with the pick they got for Mari Cooper when they traded him for a fifth round. Oh, yeah. That's that might be I know there's contract.
Starting point is 00:48:24 There was contract like related because he had just signed it. I think it was a five year hundred million or something and I get it. But that's got to be one of the worst trades ever because of Mari Cooper is like preventively a top 10, 15 wide receiver in the NFL. Yeah, you saw it on the 50, 50 balls too. Like if you just throw it up, he will bring them down. He's still still very, very good. He's twenty nine by the way. Another age. That's crazy too.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Everyone, all these guys should be thirty five, like playing on the senior tour. There should be a senior tour for the NFL. Yes. I actually was thinking myself watching this game. What do the Browns do next year? Like can two of it, are they going to bring flacko back? How about the fact that the Browns paid next year? Like can you are they gonna bring flacco back? How about the fact that the Browns paid $200 million to Gishon Watson and in back-to-back years,
Starting point is 00:49:10 Jacobi, Percent, Joe Flacco, I'll play to them. Yeah, and I mean, I don't know what kind of salary Flacco's gonna command, but you have to think about it if you're the Browns. It's not like what he's doing. Yeah, you expect him. If he gets banged up, I don't know if he can last an entire season. That's the thing because he is old.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And he will get knocked around because he's not the most mobile guy in the world. But if he's healthy as he is right now, he is without a doubt a better option for your team than to Sean Watson. Yes. Yes. So Joe Flacco is the second Browns quarterback to have 300 plus yards and three straight games. Who's the other one? Which this could be any answer, because there's so many Browns quarterbacks. Kelly Holcomb. Josh McCown in 2015. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah. That was I remember that. That was quite a run. So you mentioned the the kicker Dustin Hopkins. Yes. Pulling his hamstring on the kick return, which I love it when there's a Skycam kick return that goes all the way. There's a sick run back. If hypothetically, Kareem Haunt was actually the best backup kicker you have on your team,
Starting point is 00:50:20 there's no chance you send him after the try one, right? Just for the discourse, you know what's going to happen to your guy. I think it would be it would be very funny. Yeah, I think if you can maybe like if the TV gets blacked out, so there's no cameras. Yeah, yeah, if there's if this game were played in like 1941, then you could send them out there. But that that would live on an infamy for every because all I saw was like, don't the Browns have another kicker? And I was like, yeah, there was a couple guys
Starting point is 00:50:50 warming up. I, uh, it is so classic Browns this whole season. They had a stat. They had a graphic where it was just all the guys that have been injured and all these really good players. They have like a pro bowl roster of injuries. Um, and then Dustin Hopkins gets hurt and he's been a really good kicker for them. I think he's, I think he's the only kicker who's perfect from 50 plus. He's eight for eight from 50 plus this year. Like he's been very reliable. So for the Browns, it's been their entire season where big win comes with, oh, we lost an important piece.
Starting point is 00:51:22 You wouldn't think it'd be the kicker, but it actually is the kicker. Like he's, he's a good kicker, but it actually is the kicker. Like he's a good kicker and the Browns have had kicker problems. I do think the NFL should make a rule where they just, maybe they spin a wheel before a game and just randomly, a team isn't allowed to use their kicker because it makes the game so much fun. Being like, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You have to go for it on every fourth down or is a linebacker going to kick it? A kicker getting hurt. No injuries fun, but a kicker getting hurt is actually really fun. A punter getting hurt is fun too, because then you have the kicker that goes out there and he tries to punt. Yeah, like, wait, why can't this guy who's job is to kick a ball kick a ball? Yeah, because they're two like very different styles.
Starting point is 00:52:03 But I've always said that the the player that scores the touchdown should have to kick the extra point. How awesome would that be? It's a great rule. That's a great rule. It would be an awesome, awesome rule to watch. As for the Texans, they need to see J. Shroud really, really bad. He should win every season. He looks so sad without him. Very sad to watch. Unfortunately, Case Keenam couldn't get it done. So we were treated to Mills Mafia. Yeah. He's not as fun as I remember him being. No. Well him couldn't get it done. So we were treated to Mills mafia. Yeah As I remember him being no Well, he did get garbage time so he put up some points
Starting point is 00:52:31 And it was you had the rare case where the Browns pulled all their starters and then had to put them back in because the Texans got an Onside kick and it's the fancy is like oh fuck. Maybe I should have to put these guys back in. Keep your helmets close by, guys. Yeah. Uh, okay. So next game, Texans basically have to, I feel like week 18 is going to be their season. They have to win week 18 against the Colts. And it feels like that's going to be a win and get in game. Uh, for next game, Falcons 29 Colts 10, don't have a lot other than Taylor Heinecke is so much better than Desmond Ritter and Kyle Pitts was scored a touchdown. I think he has three touchdowns this year, which is matches his first two years in the
Starting point is 00:53:15 NFL. I didn't even realize he was, he's been in the NFL for three years because I feel like he's, he's perennial rookie guy because he hasn't broken out. I the only thing I had for this game, PFT was if the NFL was ever going to implement a bowl game strategy, this was the perfect game. Like this game didn't, you know, it's two teams. I know the Colts have had a good season. They're still very much in the playoff on, but they had a bad game. Falcons have been disappointing and they look like they could win the NFC South a few like a month ago and they've just shit the bed. If you just dressed this game up
Starting point is 00:53:50 and just said it was, you know, the vacuum cleaner bowl, I would have been more tuned in. I would have had more fun with it. So that's what we'll do the week before the playoffs. We'll have the back of our head things for each team and then we'll also have our bowl game matchup. So I'd like to see play out. I think the Falcons and maybe the Chargers would be a good bowl game too. Yeah. Just like which team can shock you with how they lose in the most grotesque fashion. But this game to me proved that somehow, you know, we are dumb sometimes when it comes
Starting point is 00:54:19 to our NFL takes. We have been correct about high-naked over overritter this entire year from we know born. And the Falcons would be winning that division if Taylor Hanicky had been starting the entire season. Cause he takes risks. So much better. Yeah. He takes risks and he makes big throws
Starting point is 00:54:37 and he just, he like, the word game manager I would never use to describe Taylor Hanicky because he's not. He'll like, he'll fuck up a game in a good way or in a bad way. He's a game record. There we go. That's what he is. He's a game record no telling which team he'll record for. But he's going to like take some chances. He's going to fuck around a little bit and he's going to give you a better chance to win overall than Desmond Ritter who just sucks. Yeah. He's in the Nick Mollens category. He's in the Nick Moines category where if you if you tune in for a Taylor Hankey game You're gonna have fun. It might not go like if you're rooting for Taylor Hankey or you bet on Taylor Hankey It might not go your way, but you're gonna get like the the price of admission Mm-hmm. So yeah this game and then the Falcons defense like shut down the cults cults couldn't do anything
Starting point is 00:55:20 It's quick update on the 49ers Ravens game. Trent Williams is out with a groin Kyle Hamilton's in the blue injury 10 and Sam Darnel was in the game right now. So we picked a good time to stop watching. Yeah. This was a fucking beat down by the Ravens. I didn't see this coming. I took the Ravens, but I thought it was going to be, I took him with the points because I thought they were, it was going to be a close game. I did not, I did not think this is going to be 3312 with eight minutes left and Sam Donald in the game. Um, yeah, hopefully Trent Williams is okay.
Starting point is 00:55:52 That would suck a lot. Max has got to be thinking one seat again. Hmm. He's getting some thoughts. Uh, okay. Let's take a quick break for an ad. And then we'll keep powering through the games. Yeah, before we get back to the games,
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Starting point is 00:58:25 It was just, it was awful football at one point on a punt return. I believe it was Crowder that was returning the punt. He just threw the ball straight up in the air with his own hands. I don't know what that was. That was a nice turnover for us. It was depressing because Sam Howe's stunk again.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I don't wanna do the thing where I'm saying Sam Howe House injured, but something's happened with Sam House in the last month where he's, he stinks, he's been awful in the last four games. I don't know what got into him. I don't know if it's the play calling, if it's him as a quarterback, if it's an injury that he's not talking about,
Starting point is 00:58:59 because he has gotten hit a lot, but whatever it is, it's not good because now in back to back weeks, you have Jacobi Persecut coming in the second half. And significantly outperforming Sam Howe as the starter. I did. I'm going to do another film breakdown tomorrow on Ron Rivera on the sidelines because I watched with my mom and she was disgusted by it as well. And I recorded it every time Ron Rivera was on the sidelines, counting the number of words that he said in the game.
Starting point is 00:59:25 So it was a very, very bad game. It was bad with bad future implications until the very last second where the Jets made a field goal and won a meaningless game that will have significant impact on the upcoming draft. Yes, significant impact. I was, listen, all week long, I wanted the commander to lose the game,
Starting point is 00:59:49 but I knew that once the whistle blew, once the game started, you only get 17 weeks a year to root for your favorite team. That's precious time that we get to spend watching our favorite football team compete, and it's impossible to root against them and to be rooting for the other team in those moments.
Starting point is 01:00:09 And unless it's a very last second field goal and you bet your sweet ass, I was rooting for that ball to go right down the middle. I really was and I'm very happy that that it shook out the way that it did because not only did the jets win, we got another loss. We jumped above them in the draft order and then for what happened later on that night, which we'll get to a little bit with Patriots. So, yeah, overall not good for the same how it's not good for the haliban. The halibans down bad right now. I feel like the halibans just been reduced
Starting point is 01:00:41 to myself and Max and it it's not looking proud. I'm gonna put my faith much like you, Big Cat. I'm gonna put my faith in the commander's front office. Whatever they decide to do in the draft, I'm okay with it. Yep, that was my only question. I mean, you can't ignore that Sam Hal, because the problem is for a while, there Sam Hal had a few flashes in games
Starting point is 01:01:04 where he looks great. And then he had some bad games where you can say, well, they do have one of the worst offensive lines and the team sucks. But Chikobi reset coming in and back to back games and significantly outplaying Sam Hall. It's kind of hard because you can't be like, well, Chikobi reset's playing with a different team.
Starting point is 01:01:23 He's playing with the exact same team. So it sucks. I like Sam Hall, Jacobi resets playing with a different team. He's playing with the exact same team. So it sucks. I like Sam Howell, but I think that's a good strategy. Just say whatever they want to do, they'll do. That's the only way you can do it. Cause you get otherwise you just get caught up and emotions get in there. Just like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:37 So let the front office decide. You know what, as I was watching it, I was thinking to myself, I can't imagine a more insignificant way to win a football game and a more like counterproductive way to win a football game than going on the road against the Jets, having your starting quarterback that you're trying to develop into the long-term starter, get his confidence shattered by having a backup quarterback
Starting point is 01:01:57 in Mount Aferius come back and then winning a game that costs you a draft position. That would have been the worst win of all time. It would have, it really would have been, and it's tough with Sam Howell because we play this game with quarterbacks all the time where if you show a couple flashes and you say, well, that's the guy, he's in there somewhere.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And then you start to ignore and explain away all the other stuff. Now it's got to a point where it's like, maybe the flashes were more of like an outlier. I think Sam Hall be in the NFL for a long time. Like I think he's done enough this year to prove that. I just don't know, especially if you're drafting third, it seems like the the commanders will be smart to possibly take a quarterback. Maybe is his alma mater. Go back to UNC.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Had Drake May. Drake May. And give you a book about that. So yeah, it would have been really bad. It would have been bad if we won this game. But I don't know. I go back to thinking about how Sam how played earlier in the season.
Starting point is 01:02:57 It wasn't a fluke. He was good. He made some incredible throws. He was a very, very good quarterback for, it felt like two months, two and a half months. And then whatever has happened in the last month has just been, it's been, uh, deadly to his career. Like he's, he's probably, Jacobi Berset gave him some good advice afterwards because he's like, hey, man, I've been here in the situation you're in. By the way, Jacobi Berset
Starting point is 01:03:19 seems like I'm going to nominate him for the, the PMT good guy of the week. I think Joe Burrow won a couple weeks ago. Jacobi Berset should get it this week because he talked to him after the game was like, hey, I've been in the same position. You don't know it right now, but once you fast forward five years, you'll be in this league for a while. You'll look back on this and you'll be like,
Starting point is 01:03:38 I'm glad I went through that because it made me a better person, made me better professional, but it sucks right now. Good guy, Jacobi Bussett, and I, like, anything would be lucky to have him. Yeah, I think he could be a starter for some teams next year.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Like, he is, he's best dude ever. He really is. His name rocks, his demeanor rocks, he wears cowboy hats, he rocks. Jacobi Bussett officially rocks. For the Chats, the only thing I had was Joe Douglas and Robert Salah are sticking around. That was announced this week. So I guess cool. Yeah, we had an all-time you think moment where
Starting point is 01:04:17 Robert Salah said there's there's things that I wish I would have done differently with the backup quarterback situation this year. Oh, that's nice. I'm doing it. I, I mean, I, I think I don't know about Robert Salah. I do think Joe Douglas has done a good job of building a roster. His mistake was he built a roster that only works with a 40 year old quarterback who then got injured. You know, I mean, that's, that's really like everything else.
Starting point is 01:04:41 He's like, their defense is really good. Obviously, their offensive line needs work. They have good skill position players. He's like their defense really good. Obviously their offensive line needs work They have good skill position players. He's done a decent job drafting. It's just You put it all into one basket and then when you tear your Achilles four plays in the season Doesn't look so good Yeah, pre-sale is really good really that's that's what I came away from this game thing is like that dude is he is a legit Yeah, um, okay he is a legit. Yeah. Okay. Just a legit. Next up, uh, Seahawks Titans, Seahawks, Gino game winning drive. Do you know the Gino leads
Starting point is 01:05:11 the league and game winning drives this year with four? I did not know that. Yeah. So Seahawks stay alive. Um, a game that they should have won because they're playing Ryan Tannahill and a dead Titans team, but they still struggled and then needed the game winning drive. The Seahawks are officially alive. It feels like they actually might be the team that gets in that seventh spot, which we've been talking about forever, that seventh spot in the NFC because the Vikings and the Packers have both died. And so they're right now in the seventh spot.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'm okay with it. I'm okay with the Seahawks with the, the Seahawks are, they would check my box of, I don't think they can win a playoff game, but they have enough fun players that I'm okay to watch another Seahawks game. So where are we at right now with the playoff projection? Would it be the Seahawks against the...
Starting point is 01:06:00 It would be the Seahawks at the Eagles. Seahawks and Eagles, and then you have... But the Eagles are way better minds. The Eagles are way better than the sea ox. Definitely. Yeah. No, I mean, the Eagles, I don't see them losing in a bird matchup like that to Seattle. They haven't played have they? No, well, they haven't played Geno Smith. Oh, true, true, true, true. Max is just shaking his head.
Starting point is 01:06:22 This is the three of us here and he's just muted shaking his head. Max is the three of us here. And he's just muted shaking his head. Max, you scared of the Seahawks? That would be a must win. Heck yeah. Okay. Your second consecutive must win against the Seahawks. You're all in one in must wins against Seattle this year. No, you maybe change up the strategy.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Well against Seattle, but today was a must win. The Eagles won this. That's true. That's true. Okay. Congratulations on beating T'rod Terad Taylor. But yeah, uh, I, good player. If I were, if I were the Lions, I would rather play against the Seahawks, which is crazy because the Seahawks also beat the
Starting point is 01:06:54 Lions this year, right? Yeah, they beat them last year too. They, they, the Seahawks kind of have their number. But I would rather play just in terms of juju. I'd rather play that game than having Matt Stafford come there. Although I've been thinking about it more like Lions fans, you won the NFC North. They're not the same old Lions. Just do the final boss. Just beat Matt Stafford. Beat, you know, it's like we did the right thing. We're on the right path. I heard from a lot of Lions fans saying that, yeah, that would be the last infinity stone in heartbreaking ways to lose. Yes. I had a bunch of Lions fans just to
Starting point is 01:07:30 tweet that's all I've been thinking about with no context. I mean, like two days later, and I was like, yep, I know what this is. The Rams should sign Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson for that game. And it'd be on the suit. It was a wrap. Yeah. It was a wrap. Only the other thing I had on this game, so Ryan Tannahill will not be on the Titans next year. And I was thinking about it, what I will miss most about Ryan Tannahill. And he had this happen in this game.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Ryan Tannahill is the one quarterback who I think he, this is a stat that I don't know if you can track, but I think he, this is a stat that I don't know if you can track, but I think he leads the league in sacks where he is like fully cocked to throw and a guy comes right up the middle and he never sees him coming. It's, it's a Ryan Tannihill masterpiece where it's like he is literally ready to throw and there's just a guy just straight in his face that sacks him perfectly wraps him up. He had a beautiful one this week where,
Starting point is 01:08:28 I was like, yeah, I think I'm gonna miss that about Ryan Tannhill. Yeah, do you, he's gonna be a backup somewhere next year, right? Yeah, he might even be a starter. You think some team's gonna roll the dice on him? I mean, have you seen what's happened with quarterbacks this year? Yeah, he'd be a great backup to have.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I just don't know if, maybe we don't know, maybe the book's still out on Ryan Tannel. Yeah, really take that next step. There's more chapters to the Ryan Tannel story. Oh, Sam Donald getting loose. Okay, next up Packers 33 Panthers 30. This was this game drove me insane because I really need the Panthers to lose out and the Packers almost blew it. And I was thinking about this. Here's another thing that people can tweet us about. I actually think Matt LaFour sticking with Joe Berry is actually was a great Christmas present for Packers fans. I was thinking about it. When you're Christmas time, you're around your family and it's like know, how long it took to get there,
Starting point is 01:09:26 and how's everyone doing, how's your job, or you're gonna get settled down, all this shit, you run out of things to talk about. I guarantee you, in the state of Wisconsin, at every Christmas gathering on Christmas Eve, it was just a full discussion about how much they hate you, O'Berry. And that's a gift, because you basically got something
Starting point is 01:09:44 where everyone, it's the reverse of like politics of the dinner table. Everyone's sitting around and just being like, Joe Berry's a fucking asshole. We hate him, he's the worst. So in a weird way, that's a beautiful gift the Packers fans had on Sunday. Yeah, no, you're right.
Starting point is 01:09:59 That's a nice thing to have where you have a built-in, just a built-in conversation starter. Everyone's gonna have to worry about playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to worry about like have a built-in, just a built-in conversation starter. Yeah, everyone's going to have to worry about playing. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to worry about like playing a board game. You don't have to worry about like going around the room and saying the wrong thing to somebody. Yeah, Joe, Joe Berry sucks. We can all agree on that. And he sucks so bad that Bryce Young, Bryce Young for a minute there, I was thinking he
Starting point is 01:10:20 might be offensive player of the week until the very end of the game. Like if you had taken them down and scored a touchdown on that last drive, it would have been Davido Baker Mayfield and then Bryce Young that potentially could have been NFS offensive players of the week. I was I meant to say that because you you're you're right and wrong about your Bryce Young. You're you're dead right offensive player of the week. You said that that he would have a chance to win it. You were a little wrong. this is why you keep playing Bryce Young and not put in Andy Dahlton because if you're a panthers fan
Starting point is 01:10:50 This is all you're hoping for you don't have a draft pick You're just hoping that Bryce Young can have a couple games down the stretch that says He might be good and this was one of those games like he looked good today They might have had this one circled just like keep Bryce in until he plays Joe Berry. Yeah. Yeah. All we have to do is all we have to do is get him to Joe Berry and then things will be fine. Joe Berry made Tommy DeVito probably a millionaire for life. Yeah. Think about it. What a good guy. He is. He made families happy. He's made Tommy DeVito happy. He's made a lot of Carolina Pantist fans like less depressed for a week. Good for him. I also, I think Packer's fans probably, they get to do this and it sucks that they get to do this.
Starting point is 01:11:33 They basically, the way this season is gone, they had the moment where they, after they beat the chiefs, I thought they were legitimately going to go to the playoffs and they look like a really competent team, all facets. But they now can say like this was a successful rebuilding year because Jordan Love is look good. And if you can just get ready to Joe Berry, you probably can fix a lot of your problems. So they're in that camp of like bad season but kind of a good season, which pisses me off
Starting point is 01:12:00 because it's bullshit that they get that. But that is probably how they're thinking. Well, they get to look at the Detroit Lions year and be like, listen, this was the year the Detroit Lions won. And then things are gonna go back to normal for us next year. That was an insult. Packers fans will take that as an insult. Why?
Starting point is 01:12:15 To be like, we were on the Detroit Lions path. Yeah, things have changed. I love it. The Panthers, I'm worried they might win another game. So they play against the Jaguars who are the walking dead. The Jaguars, they could lose that game. Who else is the Panthers? I think they might have Falcons who hopefully will be playing for something, but I really, really need the Panthers. Oh, box, box, the box have it. The NFC South, they might I don't think the box started to position take their foot off the gas. They might have the, I don't
Starting point is 01:12:53 know if the they might have the NFC South wrapped up. Yeah, you got to keep it rolling though. You can't you can't afford to take a week off if you're the box. So if you win that division, you can't you can't back your way into the playoff. This would break me if the pants back your way into the playoffs all season long. You have to keep your guys going. It would break me. It would break me if the pants there's found a way to win another game. I got to look at the Cardinals.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Cardinals play the Eagles and the Seahawks. Me the sea Hawks will already be in. It will break me. It will break me. This game almost broke me because the packers winning this game or losing this game would have been such a fucked up thing for me where I'm like I was very clear going into Sunday. I was like I'm not rooting for the Packers. I'm rooting for the Panthers to lose. So thankfully the Panthers lost, but that this game almost broke me. It put me through a lot, a lot. Yeah, hand up. I didn't watch a single snap of this game until the very end of it. I watched the highlights. I watched all the cut ups and, um, but I had no idea about the game flow whatsoever. Oh, they're just looking up at the game. And I was like, yeah, I
Starting point is 01:13:55 was like, how is this game this close? Yeah, they were killing them. And it just, it just happened out of nowhere. Uh, okay, speaking of the Jags and the dead corpse Jags, Bucks 30 Jags 12, Baker Mayfield. He's awesome. He's playing, I'm happy for Baker. He's playing incredible ball, uh, 664 yards, six touchdown zero interceptions last two weeks, which are basically must-win games, given the playoff setup. And the Jags, well, I have a quote for you, PFT. This is an anonymous quote. Man, was I wrong about this Jaguar's team. They are bad. The quarterback is not playing well at all. They have major issues. Who is the more on the thought they could be a super bowl team? Is that Uncle Chaps or Pete Presco? That is Pete Presco.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Pete Presco is finally copped to the fact that he had the Jags in the Super Bowl. Well, the schedule changed. The bucks are better than he thought the bucks were going to be. And the Jags are working. And the Jags are working. And the Jags are worse. So, so if you were to go back with this Jags schedule right now and do the entire year all over again, you would end up in this exact same position right now.
Starting point is 01:15:03 So Pete didn't have the benefit of traveling to the future and seeing what the Jags would look like and how Trevor Lawrence would look and how funny that picture of Trevor Lawrence getting hit would be. Have you seen that picture? Yeah. Yeah. Where it looks like, it looks like he's melting. It looks like a Renaissance painting of a man looking at hell.
Starting point is 01:15:20 It looks like a Chernobyl survivor in the picture. It's one of the fun. He doesn't look human. It's the funniest picture of the year so far, I think. It's a future coffee meme because I saw it. I was like, well, I have to do a Santa one for Chris' day. But like when I saw that, I was like, Jesus Christ. And Trevor Lawrence, I know that he's getting shit on a lot right now.
Starting point is 01:15:38 People are doing the blind resumes. We were on that a week ago. He is very, very injured. I think he's gotten an injury in every single game for the last month. And this week was what a shoulder? Yeah, and I doubt that he's like fully healthy from the knee at the start of the suit.
Starting point is 01:15:54 He started to get healthier, but and then when he had that ankle that got him all fucked up, that didn't, that doesn't heal overnight. And a concussion mixed in. Yeah, so he's he's banged up. He's he's the most injured starting quarterback that's still playing right now. I'll say. Yeah. So Baker on the other hand is as good. I think Baker may feel this is as good as he's ever been. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Like even going back to when he was playing for the Browns. I think right now this Baker is as good as Baker's overplay football. It's yeah, it's fun to watch in the bucks. I don't think they're gonna, well, I mean, we're watching the Niners get killed although they're about to maybe make it a one-score game. I don't know, this NFL season is so crazy. Like, can you definitively say, are there any teams that you definitively would say
Starting point is 01:16:44 have no chance of getting into the conference championship game that are currently in the playoffs, the Jaguars, either Jaguars, you're right. You're the Jaguars and the Colts, but the Colts will maybe be replaced. Yeah. So it's the Jaguars and the Colts and in the NFC, I don't think you can say, there's not one team that I would be like like I'd put my life on them not getting to the least the conference championship game. I'm not saying it's like I'd bet on the
Starting point is 01:17:10 box or the sea hawks or the Rams. Yeah, but it was going to say sea but it would be the other team, but it's like winning two games with the way the NFL season's gone. It's not the craziest, but the sea hawks would have to beat the Eagles in the first round of the play. And that's not the craziest, but the sea hawks would have to beat the Eagles in the first round of the play. That's not happening. That's true. So I think it's a sea hawks and the box would be my first to. Okay, we know the books out there on the Cowboys. Would you consider the box to be a good team?
Starting point is 01:17:38 Oh, no. Because the Cowboys, they're not a good team. No, they're okay. They're a good team relatively speaking. In this year's NFL,'re not a good team. There are good, no, they're okay. They're a good team relatively speaking. In this year's NFL, they're a good team. So the Cowboys in your internal algorithm, the Cowboys would be able to go on the road and beat them in Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yes, well, gets the Cowboys game, but yes. Okay. Yes, I do think they could do that. The other thing I had from this game is it's time to start putting more respect on Mike Evans' name. So Mike Evans, I alluded to it, he's 30 years old. Mike Evans scored two touchdowns on Sunday. So he is now one of five players to have five plus seasons with 12 or more reception touchdowns
Starting point is 01:18:26 Touchdown receptions. I don't know. I said it like that. The list is Jerry Rice T.O. Randy Moss, Marvin Harrison and Mike Evans pretty crazy company. I also looked at it. So Going back to him being 30 years old. Let's just say Mike Evans plays for five more years. Not crazy, right? Like five more years. He and I I'm saying, let's say he starts to tail off. So he's been in the league for 10 years. He's had a thousand yards every single year. Every single year he's been in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:18:54 He's had a thousand years, a thousand yards. So let's just say he plays five more years and goes 750 yards, five touchdowns every single one of those years. So that's a big drop off from Mike Evans, what we've seen. Mike Evans would be seventh all time in receiving yards and seventh all time in touchdowns. And the only other guys that would be top seven with him
Starting point is 01:19:14 in both those categories are Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss and Tio. When you say those four names, you don't think Mike Evans belongs, but Mike Evans belongs. He belongs in that group. It's crazy. So put don't think Mike Evans belongs, but Mike Evan belongs. He belongs in that group. It's crazy. So put more respect on Mike Evans. And he doesn't look like he's slowing down now. No, he's, he doesn't look like he's lost a step. Hands are still good.
Starting point is 01:19:34 He's ever still able to outjump anybody. So yeah, I wouldn't be shocked to see him continuing on for the next five years, having more than 750 season. But yeah, remember the start of the year when everybody was like, they should trade Mike Evans. Yeah. Can we get Mike Evans on a better team with somebody that can get him the ball? He had that team. He had that team the entire time. Like what what team do you think he would have been more successful on that was in the hunt for Mike Evans at the time? Maybe the chiefs. Yeah. Yeah. If he was on the chief, that would probably be pretty good. Yeah, it would be really good. But it's yeah, Mike Evans is a first-balled Hall of Famer. And I'll just say the names again. would probably be pretty good. Yeah, it would be really good. But it's, yeah, Mike Evans is a first ballot hall famer.
Starting point is 01:20:05 And I'll just say the names again. If he finishes top seven in both, he would be in the list with Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss and T.O. I mean, those are what the three of the best receivers of all time, and you could make some extra Larry Fitzgerald. Like probably like three of the top seven receivers of all time. Yeah, it's crazy though.
Starting point is 01:20:27 He's Mike Evans is it should be in that list. And he is one of he will go down as one of the best receivers of all time, which is crazy because it maybe it's because he played for the bucks. Like Mike Evans played for not
Starting point is 01:20:39 to not to not to get like, uh, you know, media bias and everything, but if Mike Evans played for the Cowboys or the Giants, we'd probably be respecting him more. But I'm here right now saying we need to respect Mike Evans more. Mike Evans was so good that he got Johnny Men's L draft in the first round. Think about that. Think about that. Think about that. It's crazy. It's crazy. So, um, yeah, the Jags though, they're dead. They're dead. I feel bad for our friendchaps. I just go back to that Monday night game before the Bengals, uh, and he was walking around
Starting point is 01:21:11 this chest puffed out thinking that he was the cock of the walk. And, uh, they have not won a game since. Yeah, it was this four and a row four losses. Four losses. They look like worse and worse and worse every single game. This was the worst one. Yeah. You can forgive them losing to the last one was the Ravens. You can, you can look past that a little bit, but to get your teeth kicked in by the bucks, not, not looking promising. I'm, I'm very much looking forward to betting on the Browns if they play against the Jags and the first round of the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Yes. Yes. I would agree with that. We've seen that. Okay. Next game, bears card yes, I would agree with that. We've seen that. OK, next game. Bears Cardinals, Bears 27 Cardinals 16, we can do this quickly. Happy for Justin Fields.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Bears, this is why the Browns lost Hertz even more, because I thought they were going to be able to beat the Cardinals. I think they're going to be able to beat the Falcons next week. It hurts that much more because they would have actually been playing for something in week 18. But yeah, I'm happy for Justin Fields. That was, he was, you know, high-fiving everyone and all the fans after. I know he's got one more home game.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Who knows what's going to happen in the future, but he played well. He was running that run where he looked back and was just like, no one can touch me. And he also had no, DJ Moore was got hurt in like the first play. And he came back in, but he was banged up. Colcomat got hurt. Like, I know the interception, Justin Fields played well, and the Bears defense continued to play well, made stops from the need to. And that's all I got for this game. Yeah, if they do bring him back next season, I just don't want them to do exactly what they did this season and do it again and be like, we got to protect them.
Starting point is 01:22:47 We got to teach them how to be a pocket passer. We got to put in this new offense, let Justin Fields be Justin, let him roam free. He's a free range quarterback. So I've heard this meant to be cooped up. Yeah. So I've heard this talked about, I think Bill Simmons through the South there. And I've seen people tweet me this and our good friend Tom Frennelli has thrown this out there as well to me.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Justin Herbert for the number one pick would be the greatest thing in my life. And I thought about it some more. So you got to get the number one pick. But what do we know about the chargers? Chargers are in cap hell. They need a full reset for their entire team. You know that you know that owner cares about getting fans in that stadium.
Starting point is 01:23:33 If they can draft kill Williams, maybe even get Lincoln Riley to be his coach and then give the bears Justin Herbert and Justin Herbert immediately becomes the best bears quarterback of all time without even throwing a pass. I would do that in a second. I don't know if the charges would ever entertain it, but I would do that in a second. And my mind has wandered to that. And yeah, I get a little rocked up when I think about it. We're doing fan fiction right now.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Yeah, no, I thought I'd do it. No, you don't have to learn a new name. Yeah, just get a new Justin. That could work just for the fact that the charges don't like paying people right. And so having like a massive contract on the books like that, it's like, you know, I'd rather not be writing these checks every month or somebody else that's, wait, they're going to write the checks and I'm going to get the number one overall pick. And he's pretty good. And he's a USC guy who's won a high-spin at USC and you're trying to win fans in the LA area. Like that. Come on. That's not crazy, right? No, I mean, I think that would be, that would be good for you because Justin Herbert's a fucking stud.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Should be the greatest thing ever. Kind of a social media quarterback, but a pretty good quarterback. I would go finding every Justin Herbert hater and just like skull fucking them on the daily. It'd be crazy. You would become a, you would become a big social media guy. Yeah, yeah. Social media.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Yeah. Go nuts. Yeah, I mean, any team would pro, most teams would be lucky to have Justin Herbert. That's not, it's not a crazy sounding trade. I wouldn't be opposed to it if I were you. And he's 25. Ah.
Starting point is 01:25:10 He's bigger than Linnin' for that. That's crazy. If the Bears got Justin Herbert for the number one pick. All right, you know, I'm gonna stop myself. I'm not gonna go, I'm not gonna say. Were you gonna suck a dick? No, I was gonna say I think the bear is going to win a Superl next three years.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Okay. This is good. This is bad. Let me have these like my mind wanders and it's been wandering to these happy places. This beautiful out and it's just although I don't know if you can play in the cold. He is a West Coast kid. He is a challenge. He's there. I'd probably sell back down to earth. But this is what people that root for awesome teams don't understand is in the offseason when we when we get to indulge ourselves in these fan fictions like Lamar Jackson is going to sign with the commanders or Bill Belichack is going to be our next head coach
Starting point is 01:26:02 when we just like dive into fantasy land and completely reject reality That's so much fun because we get to we get to play through all the scenarios in our head Well, we could win three four Super Bowls So we get that same feeling of winning Super Bowl in our spank bank, which my spank bank is robust right now It's overflowing whereas teams that actually have legitimate contenders like Max or Mizorow all the time because they have to deal with the fear of losing and the what ifs.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And then every team except for one doesn't win a Super Bowl, then they get upset. And then meanwhile, we're just over here basically getting high on our own supply, like hotboxing ourselves with NFL fantasies that will never happen, which I actually think is way more fun than actually winning a super way more I've played it out in my head trade the number one pick for Justin Arbor
Starting point is 01:26:48 You got the cap space you take a lineman with your other first round pick which is gonna be somewhere in like the eight to 12 range and then every other pick after that You just get wide receivers And you just get as many wide receivers as possible defense is set You got DJ more you got Colcomat just gives many wide receivers as you just get as many wide receivers as possible. Defense is set. You got DJ Murray got Colcomat. Just gives many wide receivers as you can get probably trade Justin Fields for a second or third
Starting point is 01:27:11 round or maybe the Falcons. That would be a perfect. That's the thing is like I I I'm not a Justin Fields hater. I want him to succeed. But if you had that chance of Justin Herbert to be like. No one would even blink like it
Starting point is 01:27:24 just you have to do it. So I would want I I'd want to find a nice re-homing situation for Justin Fields, and then we're off and running. I should have this all out. And he could play outside. Yeah. What if, okay, what if you trade him to the Falcons and then you get Drake London? Perfect.
Starting point is 01:27:39 And Kyle. Yeah. I'm gonna stop. Kyle doesn't do anything. Listen, I have to stop, but just to stop. I have to stop. But just know that this is where my happiness comes from. Is these type of things I'm doing. Get Shane and make you a Photoshop.
Starting point is 01:27:54 I want to go once to coach. Jim Harbor's contract. If he signs that new contract, he can't coach in the NFL next year. Yeah. That'll be the ultimate test of loyalty to Shane. He does the graphics in the Photoshop force. He's a die hard chargers fan. I know.
Starting point is 01:28:12 See if he'll make you adjust in Herbert Bears Photoshop. He won't, he'll fuck it up. Just to look at. I need the Cardinals to win another game though. That was in terms of like games that you were talking about the commanders, how it would have been a very bad win. This would have been a very good loss for the Bears because the Cardinals would have, it
Starting point is 01:28:31 would have basically made the Panthers the number one pick. And the Bears could have done that. And I know guys are going to fight like he refluse has these guys playing hard. But yeah, in terms of games that you would have liked to maybe lose, this was one of them. I still think you're the number one pick is going to be yours. I wouldn't think that too hard about that. I'm not going to I'm would. Okay, let's take a break and then we'll talk Dolphins Cowboys, which we've got a lot to talk about and then we'll wrap up with the Monday games. Before we get back to the rest of the games are brought to you by our great friends over at game time. You shouldn't have to worry when you're buying tickets to your next big event if it's a music festival show
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Starting point is 01:31:31 This menu has something for everyone can order now and part of my cheese steak.com also available on Uber Eats Okay dolphins Cowboys dolphins 22 cowboys 20 the narrative ball pft The dolphins beat a good team the cowboys can't win on the road So we could do the hot takes, but I actually have a more reason to take with for you I want you to maybe assess it. Oh, you want to do hot sticks first. Yeah, so here's my thing is the cowboys are fraud But the dolphins are also frauds because all they prove
Starting point is 01:32:08 that they is that they can be the fraud. And they just prove they're going to kick and feel goals. Yeah, so we didn't learn anything from this game whatsoever. I take back everything we said on Friday that we're going to take the winners that they could win the Super Bowl and the losers say they're out. I think both teams are out.
Starting point is 01:32:23 So the dolphins prove to me once and for all fraudulent. They'll either be the one seed, the two seed, or maybe the six seed, depending on how the last couple games of the season go. Because if you do the closer eyes, dolphins ravens. Who you got to get? Ravens. Dolphins bills last week in the season who you got. Bill's, but depends on how hot it is. Yep, okay, so we'll have to look ahead at the weather on that. But yeah, no, I just love the fact that our own fraud logic has gotten so circular
Starting point is 01:32:56 that we can now spin ourselves into saying that dolphins actually stink because they beat a shitty team. I actually think that the couple of us are under 500 team on the road. Yeah, so I don't know if this was your more reason to take, but my actual take watching this game was that these were two good teams that played each other very competitively and tried very hard
Starting point is 01:33:16 to minimize mistakes. And it was going to be a close game no matter what. And the dolphins proved that they can win down the stretch. And that was a great last try from two to in the game. I think that it actually proved a weird way that they're both good teams. Yes, so that's my reason to take DAX drive to take the lead was like,
Starting point is 01:33:36 this is what you want out of DAX, big moment on the road. Nothing's really looking easy. Like you're not the front runner cowboys right now. That was a big boy drive by Dac and the Dolphins defense like the the pressure they got they Van Ginkgo Badger. He was all over the place. Chubb really, really good. We all knew that. Yeah, I came away being like both these teams are going to be very tough outs in the playoffs and especially for the cowboy. So the Dolphins get a lot of credit because this was the game they needed. They needed to win a game against a team that is considered
Starting point is 01:34:10 a very good team and do it with, you know, defense like there. I think it was basically both these teams are kind of front runners where when they when they kill someone, it looks like they're the best team on earth. When they get into the slog, when they get into this felt like a playoff game and the fact that it wasn't perfect, but it was like big moments who can convert on third down, all these things. So the dolphins definitely impress me. And I've flipped my narrative on the dolphins like a month ago because I thought Vic Fangio will just figure it out.
Starting point is 01:34:42 And I do think that they're going to be like like, they're one of those teams that, if they're in the Super Bowl, I wouldn't be shocked. No way in the AFC would I be shocked. Like they have everything. And if it's clicking, they can beat anyone. But the Cowboys, the Cowboys, it's funny how the narratives work in the fact that if the Cowboys had just not handed the ball to a fullback who has four career NFL rushes on the goal line.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Let's not let's put some respect on Hunter Leppke's name. The guy had a story in career. I understand. But if they don't know, man, trophy winner, they don't do that. The Cowboys probably win that game and the whole narrative is flipped there. And more than that, really feels like the cowboys could use like a guy who could run between the tackles who can get those hard yards, who can maybe score big touchdowns. Maybe guy who wears a helmet that's so customized that he looks like a car. Yeah, maybe a guy
Starting point is 01:35:37 who scored a touchdown on like two hours after this game on Sunday night football, seven point dogs. That Tony Pollard run where he just was like, I, I'm fast. I could probably get to the pile on. No, you know what? I'm going to just cut it inside and just get bodied by a linebacker. Like I, I don't feel bad for Cowboys fans, but they win that game if they have his equal. I do believe that. Like they, they're missing that part of their, they have struggled in the red zone all year. And Tony Pollard around the goal line has been a disaster. And if they have Zika, I think they win that game. If you're a Cowboys fan, you have, you have a legitimate ref excuse to because it did,
Starting point is 01:36:19 it did seem like they missed a lot of calls on, uh, on holding on my comparisons on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you have a legitimate reason where you can be like, oh, we would have won this game if the refs didn't fuck us. But then on the other hand, the refs kind of also fucked the dolphins on a couple calls. So it's, there was one call in particular where they called, they called roughing the passer.
Starting point is 01:36:39 And I forget was it Williams that landed on Dac and he tried to like pick his hands up in midair. Yeah. And move in midair. But unfortunately, the NFL rulebook and Isaac Newton's second law of motion, they kind of run into conflict on how you distribute force. So ideally, the NFL would like the defensive tackle to levitate in midair off the quarterback as you're falling through on your hit. Unfortunately, it's impossible to do that due to physics.
Starting point is 01:37:09 And that was one of those calls where I was watching it with some people that I'll put this way. They've been watching football for a while. I thought that there was a good chance that TV was going to get turned off. Yeah. Like, we don't watch the world football league in this room. Yeah, it starts off. Yeah, like we don't watch the world football. Done with it in this room. Yeah, starts watching it though. Yeah, exactly put flags and skirts and let's just play powder puff instead. That that would have been a valid excuse for the dolphins fans too, but I do think that that
Starting point is 01:37:35 micro Parsons he probably missed out on like three or four holding calls on that game. But that's yeah, I mean, that was it felt like one of those coin flip games where I I went in trying to say we called it the fraud bowl. I wanted to have a definitive answer on both these teams and be like, you know, dolphins beat him by 20 dolphins are, you know, for real. The Cowboys, you know, win by 30 cow like dolphins are frauds. I walked away just being like, both these teams are really good and they're going to be very tough outs. And so yeah, it sucks when you want a narrative to go one way. And it just, I think we both came to the same conclusion. Like that was a hard fought game that a coin flip game that one play goes a different way.
Starting point is 01:38:18 And it's a different result. And two of though, that drive that he did have to get the field goal. Like that was, that was a big boy drive. That was a big boy drive against a tough pass rush, making the big throws. And Jason Sanders, what do you hit three 50 orders? Like, so yeah, I, it sucks. I'm mad, I'm mad at ourselves, PFT, that we, that we actually have to like put the narratives aside and be like, both these seems really good. But, no, but here's what we can do though, is if the dolphins do lose their next two games,
Starting point is 01:38:51 then we can say, well, the dolphins are frauds and also the Cowboys are frauds too, because they lost to these dolphins who now we know stink. Yeah, true, true. So let's put the narrative on pause. Okay. It's like magic eight ball answer, not so clear. Ask again.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Yes. That's what we're going to just roll it over into this week. And then if the lions go down and shit pump the cowboys and the dolphins lose to the ravens, then we can be like, okay, so now we understand that what we saw last week was just two mid teams playing each other very evenly. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Mike McCarthy, by the way, we're getting into fat dumb Mike McCarthy's own. He looks fat and dumb a few times this game where his brain doesn't work fast enough to compute
Starting point is 01:39:36 what's happening. So I'm happy. Because it was wet. When he gets wet, he was wet. He was wet. He was wet. But yeah, that was, that was, that was a great game. I mean, it wasn't a great played game. It wasn't like fireworks, but it was, that was a tough hard fought game that had big moments and big draw. Yeah, how we've, we've said,
Starting point is 01:39:57 we used to have worn sharp on the show in our theory was that the ball travels farther at night, just something about watching a ball fly through the air at night. Like football looks different if it's different if it's a nighttime game, if it's a prime time game. Or I guess in this case, it was after the sun went down. But Mike McCarthy, his face does look fatter at night. Yeah, it's undisputable.
Starting point is 01:40:17 It does. His eyes get further apart, the later on in the day that it gets. And then he goes to sleep and all the swelling goes down and everything kind of compresses again. But later on in the day that it gets. And then he goes to sleep and all the swelling goes down and everything kind of compresses again. But later on in the afternoon, he starts to get almost like an owl face where it's just like, it's out to here.
Starting point is 01:40:32 And he has 180 degree vision. Yeah, it's my McCarthy dumb season is rapidly approaching. Anything else on this game? All the Dumbest Should know whether top hurtling people. Yes, Al King Gold does need to do that. Dolphins should always wear the throwbacks and those M's ones are cool. It will be cool. It will be cool to see a dolphins like a playoff game.
Starting point is 01:40:56 I mean, the heat as always, I know that it's not that hot in Miami right now, but I feel like everyone is just always gasped in these games, which adds kind of a fun wrinkle. Yeah, it is cool to see that in like December, January. I would like to make one change to the dolphins, uniform though. I love the throwbacks. Throwbacks are awesome. The color scheme is great. I like the helmet.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I wish that the dolphin that's on the helmet, that's wearing a helmet, I wish that helmet had another dolphin on it. Oh, so just a set of an action. Yeah. It's that dolphin needs to have it. It has, it's a dolphin wearing a helmet. I think the helmet says M on it. I think I want that dolphin to be wearing a helmet
Starting point is 01:41:39 that has a picture of a dolphin wearing a helmet. I agree. I agree. I can curve. Yeah, no, that never happened. Yeah, that old Dolphins with the M, that logo rocks. They should never have changed it. We should, we should really just,
Starting point is 01:41:55 I wish we had the power to just be like, you guys stop, like these are, this is your best logo. Don't fuck with it. You don't have to change it, just to change it. You know what I know you want to sell more shit, but it's not good. You're gonna sell a bunch of crappy shit.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Right. Okay. Sunday football. Thanks, not here. Patriots, 26 Broncos, 23, but we do have PFT Patriots fan. Big win for your boys. Yeah, yeah. Listen, do your job.
Starting point is 01:42:21 They hate us because they ain't us. No one thought that we were going to be able to pull this win out, but that's Bill Belichack. He's the best coach in the history of the NFL for a reason. And it turns out that if you put a scenario in front of Bill Belichack, where maybe on his way out the door, he might be able to give a big middle finger and fuck over a draft pick for your team on the way out. He's going to do everything that he possibly can to win a game. So, yeah, credit to my Patriots. The Patriot way is alive and well. I think we're just now seeing guys start to buy in. So who knows, maybe even
Starting point is 01:42:51 running back next year with Billy Zappi and Bill. We'll see what's going to happen. But it felt like a vintage Patriots night, planning it's the Broncos remind me of some of those old Peyton Brady matchups that we all love so very deeply. So it was a, it was a great game for my past. Very happy to see them pull out this W very, very meaningful win to me personally as a Patriots fan. Their defense is good. Like Dave tweeted and he was, I actually maybe a series who was
Starting point is 01:43:18 like if the Patriots were in the playoffs, they'd be the toughest out. I don't know if that's true, but they would not be a team people like their defense is good. And Bailey's happy played well. And the Broncos luck just ran out like we were, we've been talking about it. I know Broncos fans, that's got to suck because it's seasoned turned around and you're like, this is, it's been bad for the Broncos for since Peyton left. And, but there's their luck just ran out. Like even even the fact that they got Billy Zappy, they get him to fumble on the first play from Scrimmage and they can't score a touchdown from like the six yard line. And then you have one of the worst kickoff returns I've ever seen by the Broncos where he just like threw the ball backwards. Their
Starting point is 01:44:04 luck has run out. I also, remember last year when the thing, you know, Hacket was struggling with the clock and they had to bring in that dude to help him. Does Sean Peyton need that dude? I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Sean Peyton said he seems like he's, he's just angry all the time. That end of game sequence was so clearly the Patriots being like we're playing for overtime.
Starting point is 01:44:29 There was I think 50 seconds left and they ran the ball, I think twice and then they got a big pass and they're like, all right, fuck it, we'll do it. But Sean Payton called two time outs. I know I guess you're trying to get the ball back with like 30 seconds left. But that's a situation where it's like if they're playing for overtime, just let's go to overtime, right? Because it worked so poorly against him where the Patriots get one big play and I'm like, all right, fuck it. I guess we'll go win this game now.
Starting point is 01:44:58 I kind of agree with Sean Payton on that one because I didn't see the Patriots even trying to get down the field. Right. But just let him go, like, let it go to overtime because you're, if you, if you call timeout and you give them a chance to maybe get a first down, then they're going to flip it and be like, all right, fine, we're going to go score a first down. There was not enough time left. If you use all your timeouts, you're going to get the ball back. If the Patriots have to punt with, I don't know, 40 seconds left, no timeouts.
Starting point is 01:45:24 And, and with, like, I don't know, I just, I feel like you just, if someone's in that situation saying, let's go to overtime, you just go to overtime. And so that's to me, that's to me to, to maybe take a shot. That to me was like a coin toss one, where it's like, I can, I can see the justification either way, if a coach wanted to try to extend the game or if they wanted to just like, okay, you can just run it out. Because on one hand, you'd be like, oh, this coach is a pussy for not using his timeouts.
Starting point is 01:45:51 It was close enough where I didn't really have a problem either way. The big impact of this game was on the draft pick though. So by winning this game, the commanders take the Patriots spot in the draft. Many people are speculating Bill Belichuk leaving the Patriots at the end of the season, possibly going to the commanders, giving them a gift. Now, in the very last game of the season, it's going to be the Patriots against the Jets. And if hypothetically Bill Belichuk had in his mind that this would be
Starting point is 01:46:24 a very beneficial game because I think the way it's going to shake out with tiebreakers, I think going into that last week, I think the Patriots might overtake the commanders in the draft because of strength of schedule. I think that if they have that match up and if bellicuk is going to the commanders, bellicuk will figure out a way to beat the New York Jets. One last time. Oh, he hates Jets. So he hates the Jets. And then and then give the Patriots a worst pick, give his potential new team a better pick. That's my fan fiction world that I'm living in right now. And I actually think that it might come true. And that
Starting point is 01:47:00 that to me will be my super. I like it. I mean, I'm in for it. We got a, bro's got to support each other's fan fiction more. Listen, I've, you know, me, I've been a big supporter of everything that's been going on New England from the Patriots Dynasty to the lighthouse. So I, I'm not going to give up on bill yet 20, cheese 14, cheese are bad. The cheese are so bad that Adenocano last completed pass in this game was with two minutes and one second left in the first quarter. It's the longest stat hole had this. It's the longest to end a game without a completed pass for a winning team since at least 1999. The Killy Smith had a week eight 2000. He had 24 seconds left in the first quarter. He went two for nine in the game.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Ainal Connell finished the game after that completed pass with two minutes left in the first quarter. Over 10 zero yards with four kneels over those final three quarters. That's what just beat the Kansas City chiefs. The Raiders defense was awesome. Zameer White, Iced the Game Away, who was, you know, the backup to Jacob's who's been playing well, the chiefs are in trouble. Chiefs are in trouble. They're bad. They're, they're, they're in big trouble. That defense doesn't look so great if you're you if you're getting gashed a little bit in the running game and the offense The offense wasn't very good either. Oh so bad things. There was so many plays where my homes get the ball He'd drop back about seven yards and then he'd like shuffle up into the line of scrimmage almost get sacked by like a defensive tackle
Starting point is 01:48:41 And then run to the outside and then wait for what seemed like six seconds. No receivers open down field and then he just have to either run the ball out of bounds or throw it out of bounds. It seems like there's something significant broken with the Chiefs office, especially their defense needs to be better, but the offense looks like this is not a scenario where you can flip a switch and figure things out. No, no, and it's the difference is not having Eric B. Enemy, having Matt Nagy, having everyone drop balls, including Travis Kelsey, who I did see Taylor Swift show up to the game with
Starting point is 01:49:15 Santa Claus, which I'm sure there were kids watching and they're like, wait, why is Santa Claus at a cheese game? I thought he delivered all the presents last night. Why is he awake right now? Shouldn't he be resting? Taylor Swift probably ruined Santa Claus for thousands and thousands of children across America today.
Starting point is 01:49:35 So I tweeted that out because my four year old son Chris walked in. And he saw Santa, he saw Santa Claus in the box with Taylor Swift. Santa was in her box. And he said, Dad, we just opened presents and you said, Santa, just dropped these off. How come he's on TV right now? I was like, I don't know what to tell you, Chris.
Starting point is 01:49:54 I've been lying to you your entire life. And now he's packing up his bags, he's going to move out. So that sucks as a parent. You never want to see that. I just got discovered to be, you know, living a massive, massive lie. And you're right, it's like when, when is enough enough? How many, how many families, how many,
Starting point is 01:50:10 how many homes does she need to break up and parents and children does she need to drive apart before we say, okay, we've seen enough, Miss Swift. And then up in the box, I don't know if you saw this, Big Cat, she said, oh my God. Oh, no. On Christmas. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, you can't say that. You can't take the Lord's name and vein on Christmas day like that.
Starting point is 01:50:30 And this is the role model that we're looking at now. And it's sad to see that this is what the NFL has become. It's disgusting. She ruined Christmas for all these children. And I know Swifties, they have their playbook. They'll call us misogynistic. Might I remind you, I have a daughter, my dog right here, female. My wife is also female. So how can I be misogynistic when I have three females living in my house? And it is my favorite, some of my favorite, favorite women and Big Cat. I love your bitch. She's right behind you on the couch. Right here. Yeah. See that's your bitch. I fucking love my bitch. Yeah. So this will say we're massageistic, but you show me a bitch. I love more than this one right here. Nope. Yeah. I grew up with a bitch and listen this pocket we got bitches for days.
Starting point is 01:51:26 So don't don't bring that to me okay and I will say this about Travis oh well one more thing about miss swift and her her appearance at the game. It's a big rules for me not for the situation I guess because she walked in with Santa and who knows who Santa was being played by. But Santa clause brought in his sack and who knows, you know, he might have had alcohol or narcotics in there. I don't know. I didn't see what was inside because it was an opaque sack and anyone that's ever been to an NFL game knows that if you want to go to a game, you have to carry your belongings and in a clear plastic bag that must fit into a certain surface area. So apparently Taylor Swift doesn't have to abide by those same rules as the tens of thousands,
Starting point is 01:52:13 hundreds of thousands of other normal NFL fans have to abide by when we go to games. So any good, any normal person would have had to check that bag at the door, but not miss Swift. She's too good for that. So, um, it's disgusting. She's ruining the world, the world, the world, the world. And so I'd say she already has ruined the world. I, it's not ruining anymore. Fine planet we used to have here. Yeah. And so I, I, I wait the response that we'll undoubtedly get Just know that you can't hurt me. I'm in my basement right now. So I'm podcasting for my basement. My life's going well So nice try Yeah, listen, I still live with my mom. You know, we also lived with his mom. Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:53:00 All right, so clip that max, I do have an important announcement after the last few days. My third son is now number one. My daughter's been dumped, she's gone to two. So I just wanted to get that off. We'll keep that out of the clip, but yeah. The new power rankings in my house is the six month old is number one,
Starting point is 01:53:24 daughter number two, eldest son number three. That's just what it is right now the situation remains fluid. I guess so when someone asked me I'm just gonna have to answer honestly until the next rankings come out. That's just how it's computer. Yeah, well I mean the baby is like he's at a point where he's like smiling and laughing and everything's funny and he can tickle him. It's like and he's not having like two and a half year old meltdowns So it's what you're saying is your daughter should smile more. Yeah, probably Okay, laugh more
Starting point is 01:53:53 Okay, oh last thing on this game Jack Jones that was awesome. So he yeah, he had a pick six and Grinch He grinched yeah, he put a he tried to give it to a kid and then took it away Which I love it's a rivalry game fuck that like he yeah He said on Twitter that it was not true. Oh, there was actually an adult that was trying to steal it from the kid And he was taken it back from the adult. I don't want to hear that. Yeah, you know better than Taylor Swift right now You just ruined that for us You know what Matt said was so funny. You're no better than Taylor Swift right now. You just ruined that for us. Matt, you know what, Matt? He said was so funny.
Starting point is 01:54:28 You have to see the tweet. All right. You're being encouraged by not letting us believe that he was being encouraged. No, no, because I didn't snatch the ball from that kid. It was from that black dude who tried to take it from the, take it. It was from the black dude who tried to take it. Watch it again, lollipop. It's a great line.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Let me bridge this one Instagram. Yeah. I, I thought that he was taking away from that. He also spilled that kids drink on which is awesome. I thought he's taken away from the kid and I thought that we're witnessing is like, that is the next chief fan and blackface origin story right there. That kid, they got the, that got the next chief fan in Blackface origin story right there. That kid, they got the Christmas ball taken away from him. We also had, and I don't know if David Jacoby, who works the ESPN, very funny guy, I don't know if he came up with it, but I'm going to give him credit for coming up with it.
Starting point is 01:55:17 This is way better than any score, Gami, ever. So Jake suck on this. He said that this was the first time ever we had a fart and a taint in back-to-back plays A fart is a fumble and a return for a touchdown and a taint is a touchdown after interception. So pretty cool Mm-hmm. I don't know. I don't know when let we've lasted that I Don't know if the to Zach actually work for ESPN is that just like his Twitter bio to be like yeah, I'm putting out some bullshit No, it's Jacobi.
Starting point is 01:55:45 He worked like great. Oh, it is. Yeah, yeah. Jacobi does, you know, he did this show with Jalen Rose. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know it was him. Okay. Yeah, no, I mean, I, I'm giving him credit because so far it and it's ain't like, I'm
Starting point is 01:55:57 mad that I didn't come up with that. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. But if you're, if you're the Raiders, I think now you have to look in the mirror and say Antonio Pierce needs to be the head coach. His message before this game, according to Tracy Wolfson, was the message is hatred, violence, and pain. This is going to be a violent game.
Starting point is 01:56:22 There will be no better head coach for the Raiders. They might even they should move the team back to Oakland and have Antonio appears coach. The Oc, because this is like the perfect corporate. It's the perfect culture fit. Like, yeah, Rich Bessace would have been awesome as a Raiders head coach. You missed out on him. You should probably kept Tom cable around for a while just so you could like beat the crap out of his assistant coaches. That's a great culture fit too. Antonio Pierce should be the next Raiders head coach. So I joked on X videos.com.
Starting point is 01:56:52 And it's, it kind of was one of those jokes that I know that it like probably hit too close to home for Raiders fans. But I said that Antonio Pierce has done a good enough job as the Raiders interim that Mark Davis will offer $200 million to Lincoln Riley because it does feel like he's always, he's always could have maybe do that. I was like, yeah, this guy, the rich Missacea, no, let's get Josh McTan, I was like, this guy's done a great job.
Starting point is 01:57:17 He's got his playing hard. Yeah, oh, this shiny flashy toy over here, you let me overpay for him. Yeah, where's that money going to come from though? That's the thing is like, I think Mark Davis might have painted himself into a corner toy over here, you let me overpay for him. Yeah, where's that money going to come from though? That's the thing is like I think Mark Davis might have painted himself into a corner with the last two mistakes that he made where he won't be able to go ahead and make a third. He's he's made so many fuck ups that he's actually prevented himself from fucking up again. He might say to Antonio Pierce like, you love the Raiders? How much do you love the Raiders? We coach him for free.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Yeah, he'd probably do it. Can I like I love the F Chang's gift card. I love Antonio Pierce as a message of hatred, violence, and pain. If I love that, if we don't get Mark Davis on for super a week, someone listening right now has an in with Mark Davis, please. It's all we want. We want to go to lunch with Mark Davis a pf. Chanks and do an interview there and you have people in the background. I don't care. It will sound terrible, but it's It's all we want We might have to say it's like a white whale You know what here's what we'll say
Starting point is 01:58:20 Our treat we'll pay. Yeah. I'll mask. Davis Mark Davis we will take you out to a PF Changs if you're choosing in the greater Las Vegas area, and we're buying. You know what? I'm going to want up that for us. So this we both have to pay. Mark Davis, you come on part of my take. We will give the your favorite PF Changs our credit card
Starting point is 01:58:44 and we'll say all week this guy eats for free. All week. All week. You can have as much as you want on us. Yeah. And we'll cover tip two. You know what? Let's double, let's just double ourselves two weeks.
Starting point is 01:59:01 How much damage do one man do? Imagine if we if that ends the podcast? Where should we be very very funny with it? We shut down. How much damage from Vegas and there's just like a four-close sign on the Chicago HQ. I think it would have to say we'd have to put in some sort of stipulation like. Let me see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to you have to be present eating a meal for each one of these. You can't just go up there and like do two me see. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You have to, you have to be present eating a meal for each one of these.
Starting point is 01:59:26 You can't just go up there and like do two lunches, brunch, dinner, fourth meal. Yeah. No, you have to be eating every meal. Yeah. You have to, yeah, you're allowed to bring home leftovers, but let's be reasonable about it. Let's be reasonable about it. We've made our demands.
Starting point is 01:59:43 We know why. No one. No one. No one. We could put us out of business with the wine selection. That's true. That's true. Top stuff. Do you think P.F. Changs has like a old seller with like 1940, you know, like war era French wine. That's never been open. No, they've got they've got a seller and it's got 1930 mad dog. Night train. They got they have the largest collection got 1930 mad dog. Night train.
Starting point is 02:00:05 They have the largest collection of Thunderbird, West of the Mississippi. They have a my tie from 1923. Still sitting there. This Thunderbird is so good that it costs $7 a bottle. All right, wrapping up two more games. Eagles, giants, Max, it looks great. It looked great for the first half. Then it got very scary. When's the win? But have any of your concerns
Starting point is 02:00:36 been alleviated? Um, alleviated, no, but I'm not going to be upset about this. So the answer's no. Eleviated no, but we can build off this. Max, would you say that you were optimistic when you tweeted season over? We can't, we can't. I retreated that nothing, nothing that I tweet in the middle of a football game should should come back to follow me into this podcast. 100% of the season over
Starting point is 02:01:05 Max. What did you say was the season over? Well, yeah, there was one play that saved the season. It was after the pick six, they go to third and 20. That was the third and 20 day J brown was the play that saved the season because if they don't pick that up, they're fuck that Boston Scott Fumble was so funny. That was, I mean, that was a worse thing since the Buffalo. So funny. It was, how does that happen? How does your own player tackle you into a Fumble to start the second half?
Starting point is 02:01:37 In shout out memes, he had a great headline. He's like, when Harry and Marv have to rob an eight year old. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, that was good. That's exactly what it looked like. And that was insane. Right. I watched that movie today.
Starting point is 02:01:49 That's the perfect description. It really is. It really is. So, yeah, when's the win? We have to unfortunately say goodbye to our Italian. You know, he was the chosen one. Tommy DeVito. He's at a rough week.
Starting point is 02:02:05 He got benched. He had an ad on social media where he was doing an ad for Reo's sauce. Italians were not happy about that. They were upset about the canned sauce in his house. Gravy. Yeah. I'm happy we, listen, I don't regret anything that we said on this podcast about him.
Starting point is 02:02:29 I'm happy we enjoyed that moment. I'm sad it's over, but all good things must come to an end. I don't think we've seen the last of Tommy DeVito. I hope that tells me Tommy might be popping his head. Listen, he got, he got bench for Tarot Taylor. And if you know anything about the history of Tarot Taylor, like you can't help but root for the guy. He's had so many like fluke injuries, weird shits happen to him.
Starting point is 02:02:52 He got bench for Nathan Peterman at one point, where he threw like five picks in a half. He goes out to San Diego. He's gonna get the starting job. I think there was still in San Diego. It might be wrong. And he goes out there and gets his ribs broken. He tries to take a pain killing shot to play through the pain, get back in the game.
Starting point is 02:03:12 When he takes the pain killing shot, they puncture his lung. And he has to go to the hospital that he's out for weeks and then Justin Herbert takes over. And then it's on and on and on for him. So it's tough to root against to Rod Taylor. But knowing what we do know about his history, we might see more Tommy DeVito later on this season. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't write Tommy off just yet. Here's what I'm hoping for Tommy DeVito. I'm hoping
Starting point is 02:03:35 he goes into witness protection for a while. And by that, I mean like he's the third string quarterback on like the chargers or maybe the cardinals. And then a couple of years pass and then he pops back up and we get to see him and we get to relive everything and maybe he's learned some things. That's what I hope for Tommy Vito. Maybe goes to the jets. Yeah. Someone did, just like keep him in the city.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Someone did tweet, like there really can't be anything worse than getting benched on national TV on Christmas and then having to go sleep in your childhood bedroom. Yeah. It's soft, it's soft. But we love Tommy. Well, I want Tommy on the show. What are we going to offer?
Starting point is 02:04:18 Yeah, it's a great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great great, great, great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great many countless. This is what just we'll get him a chain. Yeah, we'll get you another chain. Get you a nice new chain. I don't I don't think we've seen the last one this year. I think he was too much fun to the point where I feel like the the giants will bring him back next year. Yeah, I hope so.
Starting point is 02:04:36 As far as the backup goes like he had a few good games. Like he played pretty good against the Packers. Yeah, he looked like a good quarterback. He looked like a good quarterback against the commanders. Now granted the Saints didn't go so well. This game didn't go so well, but he didn't even get a chance to get to rhythm. It was very sad today where before the game,
Starting point is 02:04:56 they did a big feature on Tommy DeVito talking about how kids all over the state in New Jersey were waking up that Christmas morning unwrapping Tommy DeVito jerseys. Oh man. Yeah, and he was jerseys. Oh, man. Yeah, and he was like crying, thinking about, he's like, yeah, I used to be that kid, where Christmas morning, I forget, was the Italian linebacker from Notre Dame.
Starting point is 02:05:14 He's like, I got his jersey. That meant a lot to me, it's a beautiful thing seeing kids get that with my name on the back. And then little did we know, but there was an hour long countdown clock on the Tommy DeVito life little did we know, but there was like an hour long countdown clock on the Tommy DeVito life cycle that was going on at the moment that was about to expire. Yeah, tough, tough, but we love them. Max, you feel good, though. Second seed kind of wrapped up. Well, actually, you first seed still first seed a lot, although I think the Niners played the
Starting point is 02:05:42 Cardinals. And then the Rams, the Rams could be playing for something in week 18. And the Rams are frisky. We've said that. The Rams are frisky. Yeah. Or dangerous was the word. Yeah, they're officially dangerous. They've officially been in the dangerous tier. So yeah, let's let's talk about the Ravens Niners game. I mean, that was, that was a beat down by the Ravens. Proc, pretty foreign receptions. game. I mean, that was, that was a beat down by the Ravens, procterity, four interceptions. Uh, like you, I thought for sure the Ravens were going to be
Starting point is 02:06:10 fucked after that safety. And it was just, yeah, I mean, the Ravens like they, I don't even think they played like a perfect offensive game, but their defense was flying around, stopping outside of that one drive where Kyle Shanahan remembered that he has Christian McCaffreyry and they should just run the ball. The 49ers just looked out of sorts. Yeah. Kiddo looked pretty good, but you know how to couple huge passes in the beginning. Coming from, pretty, pretty was very confused by the defense.
Starting point is 02:06:38 He had a lot of like deflected passes to. Jejavine Clowney, good reminder, he plays for the Ravens. Yep. You'll be forgiven if you forget that because he plays on a different team every year. I actually like his style where he's just like, I'm gonna perpetually be a free agent. He's addicted to betting on himself. And when he's playing, he still plays really well.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Purti was definitely uncomfortable for most of the game. I wanna know if there's such a thing as like a comeback agami because in my dumb brain, I see two zero, and I think game over. I wonder what percentage of teams that have gone down by a safety to start a game? Yeah. Have ever come back and won that game,
Starting point is 02:07:13 and they not only came back, but they dominated. Yeah. Little more Jackson, by the way, making Fred Warner look like an infant on a scramble. Yeah. It's good to have a reminder every now and again about just how good Lamar Jackson is with his feet. That was my whole point about the safety.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Like any other player, Lamar Jackson can get out of anything. And he makes people look like they're moving in slow motion. Fred Warner is one of the best linebackers in the game. And he made him look like he had cement boots on. Like that's, he's just, and the Ravens now, I mean, we went into this weekend being like, you know, the diners are in a class of their own. Now, it's, I mean, are the Ravens in a class of their own?
Starting point is 02:07:54 I don't even know. It's this is, this is the most wide open NFL playoffs. I feel like we've had in a very, very long time, where I was, there's just so many teams that are just, everyone has a flaw and there's and like Ravens you could say well they haven't won a big play out. You know I mean they've won what Lamar's won one playoff game so you kind of have to prove it but every team has a flaw in some capacity and we'll see what happens. It's awesome. I'm
Starting point is 02:08:22 so excited for the playoffs. I was very wrong about this game. I thought that the Niners, I thought that they didn't have a flow. I thought that their flow was being injured. And they were healthy today. And even before like Trent Williams went out, they just got their ass kicked today. Yes, see, I did have the Ravens today. And it's really just, I think the Ravens and the Browns
Starting point is 02:08:44 are the two teams that play defense on a different level. And I look, I don't think Brock Bird is bad. We've said, we've said it. He's a good quarterback. Like there's, you can't take anything away from the season he's had. But when you have to play a defense that good, it's, it, things don't come as easy as, as they do when you're playing other teams. Yeah. Yeah. So good, this is another good reminder that we're dumb as shit and sometimes don't know anything for me personally at least. Also, you could say like Brock Birdie could use some help in this game.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Could you just cut more weapons? Right? Mm-hmm. He did a lack of weapons today. It was probably Brock Birdie. it's probably the fault of the night. Brock party can't do it. Brock party can't do it all in his own. Get him get him a wide receiver, get him a tight end, get him a decent running game, and get him like a stud offensive lineman, and then we'll truly see what Brock party can do. Who the fuck? I do think that this this
Starting point is 02:09:43 definitely changed the discourse. I think we're seeing a major discourse alert here. Brock party no longer the front runner to win NFL MVP. I don't think I was going to say who the fuck is going to win MVP? No, it was Lamar's the favorite Lamar's mind is 200. So this is why I'm not this is why the MVP in the NFL is so stupid and Omar would be a deserving favorite or a deserving winner because it does usually go to just whoever gets the one seed the quarterback of the one seed but it's so stupid because the MVP feels like is decided in the last three weeks of the season every year. So whoever has the whoever has a big prime time game at the end of the year and if they play well, they win the MVP.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Huge come up for a boy, Mike Floreo, my internet dad, your internet uncle, Lamar called him out, called him Mike Flores, which is that name is going to stick. I can tell you right now. I haven't I haven't heard the clip. I'm going to play it live for the first time. Jake just sent this to us. Here tonight his numbers are outstanding. 250. Mike Boris, you're home. Mike Boris. Mike Boris. Mike Boris.
Starting point is 02:10:58 Mike Boris. Mike Boris. Mike Boris. Mike Boris. Mike Boris. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:11:09 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
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Starting point is 02:11:27 Wait, what did Mike Florio say about oh he said that the Niners were gonna kick the shit out of them wait Oh the Ravens the Ravens also went after Mike Flore with their social media team long as the key partners are healthy They're gonna kick that out of everybody in a face. The quest is for second place. That's it. As long as those people stay healthy, they're currently healthy. The 49ers kick the fuck out of the raven on Monday night.
Starting point is 02:11:52 30 seconds. Sorry. Yeah, then they put all the clips. Oh, Mikey, Mike. You got all the... I want to laugh real hard at that, but everything Mike Flores said right there was virtually identical to what I said on the side. Should we call him? Do you think he's still up? No chance. He's up.
Starting point is 02:12:13 He's up. Mike's up. Yeah. I kind of want to do the revolving and hang up on him. I'm not going to because I love him. Hello. We're taking part in my take right now. Do you have a comment?
Starting point is 02:12:27 Oh, sorry. We're live to take on part of my take. We now have an exclusive with Mike Flores. Hello, gentlemen. How are you? Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. What is your Merry Christmas, Mike?
Starting point is 02:12:40 What is my comment? Yeah. Mike Flores. Oh, look, I was wrong. I was wrong. I hung up on him. I feel bad. So I come back. I feel bad. You hear it? I'll call back. Just tell my phone, my phone died. We'll go good cup back. I don't know why he just can't. I want to call Revell again. Don't do it. Congratulations on North Western's win. Hello. Hey Mike, sorry about that big cat's phone died. So I wanted to call you back. Now, you said that the that the Ravens were going to get the shit kicked out of them on Monday night on Christmas day. And then the Raven social media
Starting point is 02:13:30 and more notably Lamar Jackson called you Mike Flores. Do you have a comment about the nickname? I don't have any problem with it. I've been called worse. Okay. Thanks, Ken. I like that. All right. I thought the 49ers were the best team by far and it would
Starting point is 02:13:46 have been anybody on Christmas night. Look at what they did to the Cowboys, look at what they did to the Eagles. Look at what they've done since coming out of their by-way. You'll go for scores of the games. They've dismantled everybody. I thought on Christmas night Ravens flying across the country. All right. That was my course.
Starting point is 02:14:01 I called that. All right. I called that. Hi. We're here. Bye, that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that.
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Starting point is 02:14:25 I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. I called that. Mike we love you and we're also we just plugged your book I started reading it How far did you get page one? No, I'm a chapter in Okay, keep going. All right. Yes, you told me choose to throw it away. Yeah, I told you All right, so where could people buy it? No Just tell me it was on that guy you know, you know, he called one more time I'm back. No, I'm not. Rule three. Rule three.
Starting point is 02:14:45 Just tell me it was on that. You're called one more time. He's gonna be so mad. I'm so pissed. You don't watch fuck those kids. What's the website that they can buy it at Mike? Stop, stop, I'm not, I'm done. Okay, I love you Mike.
Starting point is 02:15:08 I love you Mike. I gotta go my friends about the guy. Pick out loves you too. Bye. Bye. Oh. Oh, speaking of Christmas gifts, did you get your shifter gift? Oh, did I?
Starting point is 02:15:24 What was it? I got mine on Friday, it arrived, and I have a very important question for you about it. Wait, I do have a big box. It was a big box. It was a big box. Shifters got a huge box. Okay, I do have it. I got in Shifters box, and I need to know what yours says on it
Starting point is 02:15:42 because he sent a very nice cashmere blanket. It's a great song. Hold on. Let me go get it. Okay. So while you're while you're way, I'll explain what my question's going to be. I opened it up. It's a great blanket, but it's got a giant s on it. So I think that there's a good chance that that chefter sent out a gift to everybody of a big blanket with his initial on it, which would be an all-time power move. Now, there's maybe he sent me a blanket that had my dead brother's initial on it. So I don't know if that's what if it's that person less. So we'll see if B.Cats has a K for cats or an S for shifter. I hope that he's just
Starting point is 02:16:21 sending out blankets with his last initial on it. I'm still laughing about the flurry of call. I texted him. I said, sorry, sorry, we're dickheads. We can't change. We suck. Good way to sum us up, right? There's nothing I can do. I'm 38 years into this. I can't change the fact that if hanging up on someone we call this funny, it's sorry. So yeah, pick, pick, I need to know if your blanket has a giant S on it. Monogram four shifter. That's why I'm thinking that he just sent out blankets with his initial on it.
Starting point is 02:16:56 No, it's last. There's just a cat. Yeah. Okay, all right, cool. All right, mine had an S. I thought that it was S for shifter on mine. That's very thoughtful. Thank you Adam. That rocks.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Yeah. Also just a reminder that I just don't open any of my mail has been sitting in my front all the way for since Thursday. I'm the worst. I saw it in Instagram where some a wife got just went around their house and just wrapped up all the shit that like the husband has lying around and gave it to him and he like he didn't figure it out till halfway through.
Starting point is 02:17:32 My wife was like, I could do this to you and I was like, you could even that even that you've told me this, you could still do it to me. Like my birthday, you could just give me all the junk in my house. And and this stuff like from the studio. Yeah, just, yeah, that's everywhere. That whole closet. That was very nice, Shafter. Okay.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Let's finish up. Who's back of the week? We're all back question. RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. QZips, polo's hoodies, joggers, shorts. Go right now, rowback.com promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Who's back in the week? PFT, start with you.
Starting point is 02:18:12 Yeah, it's been a pretty fun week, doing a lot of traveling, but it is also the end of the year. And with the end of the year, it comes at the beginning of the new year and new year's resolutions. And I just want to remind everybody, I am going to be doing pretty much dry January again. This year. So you're all welcome to join basically dry January
Starting point is 02:18:32 is coming back. The rules are as follows. No drinking unless it's Friday, if there's football on on a Monday, you can also drink on a Saturday and you can have brunch on a Sunday, and then you can have a beer during the week, any night. But besides that, no heavy drinking whatsoever, unless again, it may be there's like a party. Also, you get a Monday off, so you can drink that Sunday night and all day on that Monday too. But besides that, I'm trying to get into shape, trying to lose some weight, trying to really
Starting point is 02:19:09 get healthy before we go out to Vegas for the soup bowl because I'm sure we're going to be eating and drinking like shit out there. So that was the time where you can really grab the bowl by the horns and do pretty much dry January with me. It's basically dry January and it's always a lot of fun. So the more the merrier on the bandwagon. Love it. My news resolution is, um, I'm going to eat more blizzards, dairy cream blizzards. Okay. I was also going to drink more water, which is one that I say every year. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:35 But I just, I like to do news resolutions are to me less about changing yourself for the better and more about just doing the things you like more. And I like eating blizzards. So I'm thinking I'm thinking like 50. My resolution last year I think was do everything that I'm already doing except do it harder. Oh, okay, I just like turn it up and yeah, turn it up and not. Yeah, go on. That's my news resolution this year. I'm just gonna turn I'm just gonna turn up and not. That was um, I saw a very funny tweet Some guy let me give him a shout out because it made me laugh. He said uh, let's see As what is this handle? His hands up blissed. He said 2019 broke me 2020 changed me 2021. I'm on drugs 2022
Starting point is 02:20:21 I'm on drugs 2023. I'm on drugs 2024. I'm on drugs, 22, I'm on drugs, 2023, I'm on drugs, 2024, I'm locking in. Yeah, hell yeah. And then how to follow up saying, 2024, I'm still on drugs, but don't get it twisted. I'm just locking in too. So yeah, that's everyone's in solutions. We did. There's another, there's one more rule for pretty much try January. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 02:20:41 If you're on a plane, you can also drink on a plane. Absolutely. We did our newest resolutions on, you can also drink on a plane. Absolutely. We did our New Year's resolutions on barcel sports advisors. And Jerry's resolution is just Trump 2024. His resolution is someone else winning the presidency. You got me a good laugh. All right. My who's back the week is, well, I have two.
Starting point is 02:21:04 Stefan Digs, we didn't talk about it, Devolert, he wore a skirt to the game on Saturday night. And then also ESPN put up a Instagram that was like, Stefan Digs hasn't had a hundred yard game in the last nine games, and he just did the sad face emoji as a comment. So yeah, Devolert. And then my other who's back is Ben Verlander, our good friend who we've never had on, but we could have, we'll have them on
Starting point is 02:21:32 some time. Everyone knows here, Ben Verlander, huge show, hey, O'Connor fan, huge show, hey, O'Connor fan. So, um, remember, he went show, hey, got hurt. He said he was, he was puking. He was literally sick. Um, and he, he cares a lot about show, hey, O'Tani. Ben Verlander, uh, went and did a, uh, uh, uh, I think it was a TV hit, but it was put on social media, where he said that show, hey, O'Tani, to the Dodgers, is the most important signing in Dodgers history. I have no problem saying that it's the most important. It's the biggest, it's the most important signing in Dodgers history. I have no problem saying that it's the most important,
Starting point is 02:22:06 it's the biggest, it's the most impactful. PFT. I have a question. Jackie Robinson. Yes. Which team did he play for? The Dodgers. Pretty impactful.
Starting point is 02:22:17 Okay, I thought so. Yeah, impactful. The word impactful is really interesting. Yeah. The most important, the most impactful, the internet talked on them, which whatever. He, you know, he's just in the moment. He forgot a little history. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:33 No big deal. I saw, I saw a little video that came out over the weekend. So Joe Kelly, his wife, said that Shohei could have Joe Kelly's number if he signed with Dodgers, Shohei embraced a big good guy move or sneaky, sneaky move, bought Jo Kelly's wife a Porsche and just had the Porsche dropped off it. He bought another man's wife a Porsche. Never buy another man's wife a Porsche.
Starting point is 02:23:00 As a man, would you let another man park his Porsche in your wife's garage? I'll actually go one further, never buy your wife a Porsche. That's also good. That's what these are going to take this. Because they can't drive. I was messed up a few minutes because they can't drive. No, that's not what I meant. I was just thinking about
Starting point is 02:23:25 someone else. No, I would I would never buy another man's wife a Porsche. I'd buy my wife a Porsche. I would never buy another man's wife. Well, maybe I'd buy another man. Listen, if you have if you have 700 million deferred, I would respectfully buy JLo a Porsche. Yeah. Now, the real question is, would you let another man, a Porsche? Would you let another man buy your wife a Porsche? Yes. 100% yeah. Because I got to drive a Porsche.
Starting point is 02:23:59 Fuck that. Then you just sell it. Yeah. Or you can't see the Porsche. Yeah. I don't, that would not bother me. I just think of us like being on one of those, seeing those clips where, I think we're talking about with jewels
Starting point is 02:24:13 where it's like just two dudes, like just parading like a line of five women just being like, you're worthless. Like we just be on that podcast and be like, you let someone buy your wife a Porsche, what the fuck? Like, dude, I don't care, it's a Porsche. The fuck do I care? That's awesome, that's a sick car.
Starting point is 02:24:31 I want that. My real question is, is Shohei O'Tani too nice of a guy? That's just such a nice guy move where it's like, does he have the killer instinct? He's thinking about other people all the time. But you do pay for the numbers Matt Parkley
Starting point is 02:24:48 So yeah told Cam noon you'd sell it for a million bucks. So yeah, I think it's I think it's all fair play I think it's all fair play Of course is pretty sweet max. You just if you wake up one morning and it's was it on Christmas? Was this like a Chris like because that would totally cut your own Christmas presents? Yeah, would max You just text us to 25. That's how long it is tight show. Yeah Well, memes asked me how how long it was going and I actually said it to the wrong group 25 and this wait this is a history of part of my take producers that have done that That's not me. Is it tight show. I feel like we've been pretty tight.
Starting point is 02:25:26 Look, PFT and I like to talk ball. We always joke about it. But like, if you told us tomorrow we weren't doing this job anymore, I would, on Sunday would come by and I'd be like, PFT, you wanna come over and just, we'll watch football and just talk ball. Like, that's what we would do.
Starting point is 02:25:41 We just happened to do it from the front. Yeah, we had this is, this is honestly the best part of our week. Yeah, we would do this exact same thing. Yeah, we, this is this is honestly the best part of our week. Yeah, we would do this exact same thing if you took the job away. Um, okay, Max finishes off. Who's back? NBA being irrelevant. Got one. Don't just go on. Did you guys see LeBron almost died today? I saw that. Yeah, he looked what did he get his leg amputated? That was such a classic, LeBron.
Starting point is 02:26:07 He had the whole training staff out there. He need Jalen Brown in the butt and then look like he was never gonna walk again and he missed 30 seconds of the game. Yeah, he looked like Barbara before the shot. Yeah. There was also that review where they called a foul on him. And they reviewed it and they were like, just to be clear, it was a clean block on
Starting point is 02:26:32 LeBron, but he was still fat. But but what else found him on the body? No, I think what the ref said, because it was very funny. The way he said, he goes, uh, it was a nice block by LeBron. He made sure to compliment LeBron before call. Yeah, the NBA has gotten cocked by the NFL. Sorry, we're going to have our preview soon.
Starting point is 02:26:56 Soon as the NFL is over, whoever NBA previews, sorry, I like the NBA, I like the NFL more. Mm-hmm. I've watched every every game that today. Watching the sun's maps right now. KDs, apparently not happy with the sun. Shocking news. He should get traded. He probably should demand a trade.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Okay. Well, thank you everyone who tuned in. Tite show. We have lottery ball. We taped all the lottery balls, so we have that. And then we will see everyone on Friday. So Friday will be our next show and we'll do a preview. Uh, that will be Zoom as well, but then we'll be back in studio for the college football playoffs on Monday night, on January 1st.
Starting point is 02:27:39 So, um, yeah, thanks everyone for tuning in. I don't know why I'm talking like this. I want to call Florio again so bad. Love you guys. Oh, I did love you guys. Bonus love you guys. I want to call him so bad right now. Okay, we're back in the studio for the numbers.
Starting point is 02:27:54 Numbers? 40. Eight, 71. 18. 20. Three. 28 pug. Well, that out of you pug.
Starting point is 02:28:04 I'm changed. I love that out of you pung I am pug 93 93 we stick at this yeah, I'm gonna until cry baby max showed I'm gonna hang it. It's gonna You two are good at it cry baby max Bitch love you guys. Cay saying it in the shine I'll be comin' for your love of the day Shine I'll be comin' for your love of the day We list the same, I want to say it
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