Pardon My Take - NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Jaguars Collapse And The Bears Lose To The Packers Again

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

NFL Week 18 we start with Fastest 2 minutes then talk about the playoff picture and every game leading up to it (00:00:00-00:09:33) Steelers 17, Ravens 10 (00:09:33-00:32:04) Texans 23, Colts 19 (0...0:32:04-00:41:25) Titans 28, Jags 20 (00:41:25-00:47:20) Bills 21, Dolphins 14 (00:47:20-00:52:24) Lions 30, Vikings 20 (00:52:24-00:57:07) Saints 48, Falcons 17 (00:57:07-01:02:35) Jets 17, Patriots 3 (01:02:35-01:13:35) Bengals 31, Browns 14 (01:13:35-01:17:47) Bucs 9, Panthers 0 (01:17:47-01:19:29) Packers 17, Bears 9 (01:19:29-01:31:51) Giants 27, Eagles 10 (01:31:51-01:41:29) Cowboys 38, Commanders 10 (01:41:29-01:50:07) Rams 21, Niners 20 (01:50:07-01:52:34) Raiders 27, Broncos 14 (01:52:34-01:53:52) Seahawks 21, Cardinals 20 (01:53:52-01:57:20) Chiefs 13, Chargers 12 (01:57:20-01:58:34) We then talk National Championship Monday night and who's back of the week. (01:58:34-02:18:49)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, week 18 in the books, we have our playoff schedule set. We have our draft order set. We're going to talk about the playoff schedule. We're going to talk about the week 18 games, some sadness in this room, some happiness in this room. We have it all though, the final regular season, week of the year, the final Sunday, long
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Starting point is 00:02:36 There's an about our sports He left, Shrek Welcome to part of my take Today is Monday, January 8th, week 18. And let us be the last to thank you for tuning in to another NFL season. We start in wet and soggy Baltimore where free Mason Rudolph played inspired ball on January 6th as a Ravens couldn't stop the steal. Urrs. Little Tay Johnson is confirmed he is not dead as he was a sucker for the deep ball scoring a big touchdown to put the stealers up. And Mike Tom Linsanity has lasted 17 years. Pittsburgh is back in the playoffs. Here we go. Steelers. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. Steelers 17. Ravens 10. What? What? Over to our first playoff game where I spent last night in the house of a team from India and running a couple hundred miles, Nico Collins bat, Rouge, Jonathan Taylor made used every club in his bag, but the Texans were extremely strouled and incredibly close to wrapping up an unlikely division title. The game came down to the final play, where Tyler Goodson did his impression of Tokatai the Orca and lost all control of his flippers when Ersei's team was trying to air it out. The toxic 23, the cult 19. To a Sunday where the Jacksonville Jaguars were fighting for their playoff lives in the dignity of certain short Italian football writers, Tractor Sito,
Starting point is 00:04:19 played his last game in 10, a Sito, a mini truck like El Camino, much of the sugar and a small Prisco Pito, Tracked or Sito, Clever Lawrence tried to get the last laugh, but his shoulder wasn't dislocated enough to get the two yards necessary for a late score, and as we learn time and time again, God hates Jags, Titans 28, Jags 20. Over to Ohio where AJ Sopran O McHarran never had the makings of a varsity athlete, but he did get in garbage time in this one. Kickbrowning looked really good and stood at her husband, as big man on campus Jake Driskel looked like he was on the no fly less when some of his passes.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Andre, Yosevus and Putt had showed the brown his score. Holyo, not once, but twice. As he said, I need TD for my Bengals. On the way to a Bengals 31, 14 win. We head over to Foxboro where we have our reporter Henry Lockwood on the scene. Hank, in a fitting tribute to the weather, James Snow White rang the lighthouse bell today, as the white powder came down and bunches throughout the day in Foxboro. Matthew Kelly Slater in the Patriots couldn't even manage to hang ten points on the feeble jets as Trevor Sivian and the jets road priests are sending a haul to the tune of 178 yards in a touchdown as the jets
Starting point is 00:05:42 were hooping hooping hooping. All the white powder falling from the sky to celebrate their first victory Versed to England in their last 15 games just 17 patriots three 15 games 16 All right white powder sounds like they could have used Patrick Chong We now had to Philadelphia actually New York Where Max is there sad sad sad boy Max We had over to make life works officially time to kill the Philadelphia females Soon to be unemployed as Nick steering mommy may have to move into his parents' basement after this one
Starting point is 00:06:20 Seek one Tony starkly dominated the first half and told all the Philadelphia Everyone wants a happy ending, right? But it doesn't always roll that way Nick Sorrow should be apologizing to all the Philadelphia for being the worst fucking player ever play the game I hate the Eagles the Eagles really suck giant 27 equals 10 In the frozen tundra some idiots called this bears the Super Bowl But Jordan love has won as all the cult members up in Green Bay found their new mother god Don Tavy and make a wix wix for 15 more years of Packer domination and his wix look like it's gonna come true
Starting point is 00:06:56 As the Bears make some podcasters very sad about their life asking why they even care about this stupid sport to begin with and wouldn't be better to be dead Packer 17 Bears 9. What? What? Over to Raul John Maryland. It's the end of a Rivera. Reach for common on the sidelines during the game. Coach Ron said.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Poldack Prescott has worked on his Cardi B and Cardio throwing some WAP. What has passes and putting it all on a CD? Lamb that is. The Cowboys look ready for the playoffs while people are still asking, are these mother fuckers even real? We may have to send reporter and world renowned not educated person Hank Lackwood down there to investigate. The Cowboys 38 38 the Commander's 10
Starting point is 00:07:50 Standing on a corner James Winston down in Nola such a fine sight to see it's our guys my lord and he wants to score heading off instead of taking a knee. Come on Dennis, why do you win this? Now the Saints will probably bring you back. We nailed that one boom, put some stank on it. Saints go marching 48 17 and that was the fastest two minutes. The last fastest two minutes, the regular season, week 18 brought to you by our friends at Chevy. The Chevy Silverado has commanding an unstoppable grit, legendary capability and dependability too. We've all spent time, seat time as they called in the biz behind the wheel of a Silverado and
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Starting point is 00:10:03 Obviously, he still matters a lot for the two seed, but we have the playoffs. It matters a little bit less. Obviously, still matters a lot for the two seed, but we have our playoffs and we have, should we go through the playoffs schedule with my as well, right? We can go in order. Right now. We'll just say for the dolphins, we don't know if they're going to be playing in Miami next week, or if they're going to be playing in Kansas City. Correct. As Jeff Darlington pointed out, this is not necessarily a matchup of which team you would prefer to play. It's more a matchup of what kind of weather does Miami want to play in because it's going to be 70 degrees Miami next weekend. And it's going to be like 15, 20 degrees in Kansas City. It's going to be the it's going to be the candy ass uniforms. Yes. The candy ass uniforms. They don't travel well
Starting point is 00:10:37 or do they are they're going to lose horrifically. They don't travel. I can see the candy ass uniforms winning a playoff game in Miami. Yes. So here's what we have and then we will go back through all the games This weekend and tell you how we got here, but we have on Saturday to kick off the wild card weekend super wild card weekend Excuse me The Texans are back where they belong There's there's a whole generation of people that don't know that the Texans always play the Saturday and by whole generation I mean like kids from the ages of like three to eight. Yeah, it's been too long It was either the Texan spot or the Bengals. I feel like the Bengals play and then remember when they actually played each other
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah, and that was great collision course Yeah, it was the Marvin Lewis or Houston Texan spot. Yeah, so browns of Texans to start Saturday super wildcard weekend Now I should mention this is the classic Texan spot. This is not the classic Texans because the CJ strad, because the Texans spot historically was always like, which weird Texans quarterback are we can get to watch play football in the playoffs? It was is JJ what gonna score enough touchdowns on defense for the Texans to win this wildcard.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Right. But the Texans are playing the first game. Then we have on Saturday night, the peacock exclusive, the Kansas cheese will be hosting the dolphins or the Steelers. Correct. Yes. Jake correct me from wrong or the bills at the same time. Okay. If the game ends at a tie, which is tied right now, Sunday, we have it's going to either be Buffalo at Miami or Pittsburgh at Buffalo. So that will be like whoever whatever team ends up having to go to chicken city, the other team, we'll have the home playoff game on Saturday, just kick off Saturday or Sunday, sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And then we have the green Bay Packers at the Dallas Cowboys, Hank's Dallas Cowboys win the NFC East, which will get all of that. Sunday night, we have Matt Stafford returning to Detroit. Jake has been creaming his dockers all afternoon about it. The story line story. This is the storyline game. This game, it's going to be like framed to be a revenge game for Jared golf and a revenge game for Matt Stafford. It's not a revenge game for Matt Stafford. This is the Jared Golf revenge. Yes. 100%. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And there was a moment, Jake did all his predictions. And I love Jake. This is what he lives for, is scheduling. And there was a moment when we'll get to the Bears Packers game where I was just sitting in kind of silence. Just in real, real sad feel bad for myself, like pissed off, just all the emotions. and Jake was like, maybe three feet away from me,
Starting point is 00:13:08 just being like the storylines are incredible, and talking and like guessing the schedule, and I had to recuse myself and go look in the mirror and be like, wow, how did I get here? As a guy that roots for storylines, though, you have to take your hat off to the script writers. It did a great job, the script is perfect this year, as always, it would have tripped you to Golden Globe Sunday. It was one of those moments where I had to take your hat off to the script writers. It did a great job. The script is perfect this year, as always.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It would attribute to Golden Globe Sunday. It was one of those moments where I had to take myself away because what Jake was doing nothing wrong, it was my bitch-ass self just being like, sad at myself. Well, you were just upset that one of the storylines was gonna be Mike McCarthy against the Packers. Correct. I also apologize for asking you the first drive of the game.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Hey, big cat, do you think the Bears and Packers have ever played on CBS? Yeah, that would kill me. Yeah, yeah, Jake was like, there's a lot of playing on CBS and they were playing on CBS. I don't give a fuck. I think I picked up on Jake cares very deeply about initials. Yeah, CBS, F.O.X. S and F. I think I just said to Jake, because I don't give a fuck. You did. I was like, I really, the parents are driving. Speaking of the cock, let's talk real quick about the playoff game on peacock. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:11 That sucks. I don't like that. We're gonna have to get Jason Garrett interi balls, and we have to pay for the privilege of having Jason Garrett show up, which stinks as if you're watching it on a phone or on a tablet. You can't, it's very hard to flip back and forth.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So, if you're streaming it from your phone to your TV, you can't check out their commercial breaks. Counterpoint, we've all been trained by Amazon. Yeah, but that sucks too. I don't like that. No, I know, I know, but I'm saying like this isn't, people were freaking out about Picoca, like we've been doing this now for two years with Amazon.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It sucked at the beginning of Amazon. Now I'm just used to it. And I also, I'm someone, I think a lot of our listeners are probably in the same boat. I have fucking apps coming out of my eyeballs. I have apps that I don't even know that I'm paying. I have two B, I have all these fucking apps. I don't have Pee-Boo, Phoebe, all this fucking apps,
Starting point is 00:14:58 I sound like Bill Bell check right now. I pay double, I pay for the apps, I pay for the cable. I think that most of us listening to, most of people listening to show right now are in a similar boat where it's like, yeah, they already have peacock because they had to watch Michigan State in fucking Northwestern play tonight.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Oh, I'm not saying that, yeah, I don't have peacock. I have peacock. I just hate the experience of watching a game on an app as opposed to watching TV. Agreed. Agreed. You can easily and elegantly and seamlessly flip back and forth and show off your skills going back to the game.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Right as it's about to snap again, be like, look how good my timing is. My point was more that the time to complain about having to watch football on apps was like two years ago when they first made us do it. I'm gonna use the time right now to complain about because it's a playoff game. Yeah, it stinks.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It's over like the big 10 is now on peacock all the time. Like I just, it's the apps on us. I've apps everywhere. Well, you want an app? You can come up to me. I'll just pull, like if I pull out my keys an app will fall out of my pocket. It when we moved, I had to download probably 20 apps
Starting point is 00:15:58 for different. Oh yeah, everyone has an app. You have to have an app to park. You have to have an app for your car now. It's just too many apps in general. Have you ever thought about, uh, it's just an app. You have to have an app to park. You have to have an app for your car now. Just too many apps in general. Have you ever thought about, it's just one app.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Right. There's your bundle of them. We just put them all together into an app. Have like, extended to your Comcast, just sell them all to Super app. Have you ever thought about like, getting your apps on your phone like, in order and stuff? No, I think about it a lot.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I've never done that. No, I, stuff. Because I think about it a lot. I've never done that. No, I think about doing it a lot. I have never done it as well. I have blank spaces where there was an app that I had to delete for memory or whatever. There's, but someday I might do it. Well, what people do when they do that, they categorize them all into super apps.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah. And then you have one app for like home, one app for travel, one app for work, and then you just make another app out super apps. Yeah. And then you have one app for like home, right, one app for travel, right, one app for work. And then you just make another app out of it. Yeah. It's got six apps in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 All right. So, and then the finale of Super Wild Card Weekend is Monday Night Football Eagles at Bucks. Max, I'm upset that it's Monday Night Football, but here's what I'm going to say to the listeners. We have already talked about this. We will be streaming all these playoff games. that it's Monday night football, but here's what I'm gonna say to the listeners. We have already talked about this. We will be streaming all these playoff games.
Starting point is 00:17:08 The Monday night game, we will tape a time capsule so we get raw max right afterwards. Yeah, I wanna hear max. Cause we obviously don't have a show on Tuesday. Max, who can do your solo pod after that game? No solo pod. Solo pod. No solo pod.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You're gonna be the box. Yeah, like it's a fucking playoffs max get up your favorites Crazy and a lot of people are asking is Hank gonna go down to Dallas for his Cowboys game I I would personally want Hank to go down but as I've looked it up I can check again, but on Expedia. I'm there's there's no hotel rooms in Dallas So if you want wanna go down there, you have to find a place to stay. I don't know if there's any Airbnb's or... That's fair.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Maybe somebody down there that has an open bed, but I'm looking at it right now. You can chouch. There's no couch. No way I can go. I don't know how it goes. At all. I mean, I can probably find a place, but.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Okay, okay. So you wanna go? Yeah. If you can find a place, you can go. All right, you can go. Okay, great. Awesome. You'd be back for something. For the pod. No. Oh, we can go down there. Maybe you can go down on Saturday, just to see what the, what the environments like. Yeah. I could do that. You know, you should do. I would rather go to the game as a cowboy's fan. Like, I want to go and see you see the boys take down the packer
Starting point is 00:18:25 You should go you should go and wait and be one of those cowboy fans that runs into Stand at the front and then leave and then leave right away. Yeah, just get your spot Take a picture and then get back on a flight What if we just record super late how late like three you don't edit three a.m Do you think I mean is the button going to get pressed? Super late. How late? Like three. Well, you don't edit three a.m. Ha ha ha ha ha. What? Do you think, I mean, is the button going to get pressed? What if I edit it? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Maybe we'll talk. We'll talk. We'll talk offline. You could do a cellopod, or if there's somebody else that you're like, you know is a great big Cowboys fan, maybe you could do a, like a segment with them and then upload it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah, I could do that. Yeah. By the way, the bills did just take the lead. This has been the most Buffalo bills game. It's their entire season rolled into one single game where the first half was the most frustrating half a football I've watched. And it's like they just got all these yards, no points.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think they've left about 28 points on the board. Yeah, looks dominant, but don't have anything to show for it. I think they've left about 28 points on the board. Yeah. Looks dominant, but don't have anything to show for it. But now they're leading 21-14, thanks to punt return and then a touchdown drive by Josh Allen on the bill. So right now they're leading. Right now, if the season ended right this second, they would be the two seed hosting the Steelers on Sunday, the first game after all this.
Starting point is 00:19:45 After all of that, they would. And shout out to Adam Schaefter, who completely cucked NBC. They were supposed to do the schedule announcement a half time of this Sunday night game. And Schaefter in the 30 minutes leading up to the game, just tweeted out the entire. Yeah, he did it. He did. They've been working on it for this long. He just tweeted it out.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Jake, you ended up four for six. Yeah, four for six? Yeah, four for six. Four for six. What went wrong? Let's talk about it real quick. What went wrong out there? I thought there was no chance
Starting point is 00:20:11 they would make the Swifties pay for peacock. Well, that's the genius of it. That's the point of it. I thought they would give them something on their football. No, no, no. This is how you get the Swifties on the cock. You can't miss my homes.
Starting point is 00:20:21 My homes really gets everything. Yeah. So I'm screwed up. Swifties are gonna love that. I think, like right now, the Swifties might be hesitant to the cock because it's new. But once they get a taste of the cock, I think they're gonna come back for more.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Actually, wait. So everything I said that I got chastised for three months ago, I was right. We're gonna get to see Taylor Swift of the cock. Yeah. Oh, perfect. Taylor Swift will be on the cock. And I gonna watch it if she gets if she goes to the game I don't know because Travis missed out her big night tonight that's
Starting point is 00:20:53 that's cock on Swift and I'm gonna get to see it you think that Swift on cock you think that glissi'll be on the cock is that cock worthy she'll right on to the cock okay she'll hop on the cock real quick. Right you're playing with fire. No, no I'm sorry about what the game is gonna be her face will be on the cock right Anyways, yeah, and if talking about a streaming and let's be honest if there's a weird like if they take her into a break And they're showing her there could be cock on her face Because you know how they do like the the image like pops right I know what you're saying I know exactly what I'm saying you think she likes to get streamed on she probably gets like she likes streaming oh man we're talking we're talking about NBC's app guys yeah what the fuck are you guys laughing about
Starting point is 00:21:38 I think technology's funny you guys are gross see a little swift on the cock I flip flop Saturday night and Sunday night games. For for six, that's on me. And if the dolphins don't come back here, I will be watching on my phone out of wedding Saturday night. Oh, if this podcast is canceled, I can go to the game. Yes, you guys.
Starting point is 00:21:56 All right. Hank's gonna cut up all this stuff out of order and be like, get these guys on. I'll tell you, this podcast is canceled. PFT and I will just do like daily meetups where we'll have people just come and listen to it. I'll tell you right now, this podcast is canceled. PFT and I will just do, we'll just do like daily meetups where we'll have people just come and listen to it. We'll take it underground. We'll just start a nice beer hall.
Starting point is 00:22:10 We'll just start a new podcast and it'll be on Andrew Tate's streaming service. But yes, so Saturday night, that's where the mistake was made that you never thought that you'd see Taylor Swift on a cock. The, I never thought, sorry. The game that Taylor Swift is going to be at would be featured on the NBC peacock application.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, for a subscription. Here's the deal. She put out a movie of her concert, right? So people had to go pay to see her concert. Then they paid money to see the movie that was her concert. Then they had to pay more money to see the extra version worth of her movie of the concert I think they can afford to sell it 999 for one night of the cock. I don't think Swifties care that much anymore either
Starting point is 00:22:53 I think that's kind of worn off What like seeing Taylor Swift at the game. No, no it has never seen her on the cock not in a playoff atmosphere Right. This is a totally different situation. Cosmo's at a different speed than he really does. I mean, isn't it like it could buffer? Yeah, it could. At any point, yeah, we could have, you know, we'd have to reset. Mm-hmm. Let's get it back.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I'm a Swiftie, so if anyone who's a left-tailor Swift is listening and wants to like cancel you guys, we still have representation. What the fuck? Jake's trying to take a spot for sure never I actually the the funniest part about this whole if we get canceled We're gonna cancel together. Yeah, we're all going down together and we're gonna be up and we can cut you can come down with me We're gonna cancel. We're all doing the Ray Allen tweets together I probably listen to more Taylor Swift than anyone in this room because my kids won't get in a car without listening to Taylor Swift. I was doing nonstop. I listen to a lot of Taylor Swift. Every day. I am a Swiftie. Every day. Yeah. Every single day. I take my son to school every day.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I make sure to listen to the ones that aren't Taylor's version though. I'm trying to scoot or brawn deserves. Let's hear it out from both sides. The real genius. The operation. All right, let's get back to football. Let's talk some football. Let's figure out how we got here to this wonderful super wild card weekend schedule. And we'll go. There's some games we're going to go very quickly through. There's some games we can discuss a little bit longer. But let's start with Saturday.
Starting point is 00:24:19 We had the Steelers 17 Ravens 10. Mike Tomlin has done it again. Mike Tomlin took a team that was seven and four, then lost to the Cardinals and Patriots at home and got absolutely smoked by the Colts and went to seven and seven and everyone wrote them off. He wins out 10 and seven. He now is tied with Bill Cower, ten seasons of 10 plus wins, which is crazy. And the Steelers are in the playoffs. And I have one question for you, PFT. Obviously TJ Walkets, I don't
Starting point is 00:24:53 know what his status is going to be. Are the Steelers maybe dangerous? If TJ White plays, yes. And TJ White tried to get back in the game with, I think it's a grade two sprain on his MCL. Yeah. So it's not it's not an insignificant injury. Most people probably couldn't play on it. TGWAT though he doesn't get injured really. He just gets upset for having to leave the game. He gets angry. And they's like put whatever contraption or apparatus you have
Starting point is 00:25:15 to affix to my body on. And then I'll just step on the field and then I'll go and get a sack. Yes. That's how he works. And he played really well when he was in the game. He had what 19 sacks. So he, no, the league, I think he leads the league for the third time in his career.
Starting point is 00:25:31 That's the most anyone's ever done it. It's crazy. We have to ask the question too. Better football player, TJ or JJ. I think JJ has said that he like concedes at the TJ now. So does that mean that JJ is actually the better player because he was able to say no. It's my brother. Right. Well say no right my brother right boy that's why he's a better person tj tj what as far as we know better football player than he's a human being correct not the
Starting point is 00:25:54 case with jj correct we have not seen tj what do uh... frank tank walk we have not we have seen jj so uh... yet this might be my Tomlin's best coaching job ever. And it's crazy, when they were 7 and 4, they were also like the most Mickey Mouse 7 and 4 of all time, but that's because Mike Tomlin is a pretty damn good coach, and so he was able to win all those games when they were getting outgained, back to back to back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I think this might be Mike's best job. I actually think it might be his best job and his worst job. Okay. Because why wasn't Mason Rudolph playing earlier? That good question. Do you think he, like, Mike Tomman actually did a terrible job. And then Mike Tomman is such a good coach.
Starting point is 00:26:32 He was able to save his terrible job and do a great job. But do you think his great job was only so great because his terrible job was so terrible? Probably he said, he put himself in such a hole that he could be like, watch this. Only I, he was like, basically he was Harry Houdini, just jumping into a river hole that he could be like watch this only I was like basically He was Harry Houdini just jumping into a river all he's like watch this watch me just put us in such a bad whole cardinal Patriots Colts now. I'm gonna get out of this. He was yeah
Starting point is 00:26:55 He's playing the game on expert mode this yeah, and the entire division finished over 500 That's the first time that's happened in a division since 1935 and The entire division finished over 500 and three out of four of the teams lost their day one starting quarterback. Pretty crazy. Nuts. Pretty crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:11 That's how good my vision was. So I think we should ask the question, the curse of the terrible towel. Did that have anything to do with it? Because since the Jaguars disrespected the towel, the Jaguar is slid into oblivion. The Steelers end up taking the Jaguar's disrespected the towel. Yes. The Jaguars slid into oblivion. The Steelers end up taking the Jaguars playoff spot. On the last day of the season, we need to ask, did the terrible towel incident have anything
Starting point is 00:27:33 to do with that? I think you can't argue otherwise. I think the evidence is quite, what's the Michael Scott? Strong to quite strong. No, he, I can't remember the line. Goddamn it's late. when he has to do the Deposition I just I just know that somebody disrespected a towel not to Sean Watson, but someone from Jacksonville Disrespected a towel and then about two months later the towel had its vengeance. Yes, I'd agree. Don't fuck with the towel. Yes, I'd agree
Starting point is 00:28:01 Don't do not fuck with the towel. You expect to get screwed by a company, but don't expect to get screwed by a girl. No, it's I don't know. That's a great one. That is great one. When he, when he, when he did the line and he was like, you said you had to go to the bathroom. That was that was to get out of this. He's like, now I actually do have to go to the bathroom. uh... jadevin clownies sacked dance for seven hundred fifty thousand dollars is awesome it was so cool they pretty much stopped the game i love i love the incentives at the end of the season uh... what he goes you said can i go to the bathroom you know i really have to go i've been drinking lots of water you went five minutes ago that was
Starting point is 00:28:38 the good about the now skin of the question so but yet jadevin clownies uh... sacked dance was awesome. $750,000. I was like, we need to see more of that because we talk about the incentives all week 18 and all these guys trying to get like a catch or a touchdown. They should stop the game for every time this happens to let these guys be like, it's very rare that you get to, it's basically watching who wants to be a millionaire or they're obviously already millionaires or like dealer or no deal. You just want $750,000. What, how do you react to David and clowny stopping the game and doing like he stopped his dance he's like no I got more in me I'm gonna do some more yeah and then the crowd caught on to it after
Starting point is 00:29:14 while it would they should make it like when calorep con junior broke the streak right let the guys take a lap yeah I five everybody in the front row who wants to see a millionaire become more of a million yeah bring a suitcase a cash out. Yeah, I like that. Why not? Although it's very weird seeing Jadavian Clowney wearing number 24. Yeah. That's just bizarre to me.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That should not be allowed for a defensive end. And Jadavian Clowney, by the way, I looked it up the other day, he has actually made way less money than I thought he would have made for his career. He keeps doing one-year deals. Yes, I think so. I just like to travel. How much money do you think Jadavian Clowney has made in his career? He keeps doing one-year deals. Yes, I think he just likes to travel. How much money do you think, Jadavian Clonney's made in his career? He was the first overall pick.
Starting point is 00:29:48 First overall pick. So I'm gonna guess he's made about $56 million. He's actually made more than that. So he's made 83, but he's been in the NFL for 10 years. First overall pick, you think. That's a lot of money. I know it is, but I'm saying like for the player he's been, he has been doing these one year deals.
Starting point is 00:30:06 It feels like he never got that like huge, huge, because he went from the text, he was on the textons for the five years and then he just started jumping around every day. It is kind of cool though. He's doing the NFL way different than anybody else except for like Josh Johnson, which is just go see the world. Right, go travel, see the next day.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Robert Woods. Robert Woods, yeah. Brandon Cook's not by choice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, also Tyler Not by choice. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. Uh, also Tyler Huntley, Shadow Tyler Huntley, he tried really hard to cover the spread. Yeah. It was, that was a wet sloppy game. I don't know how we don't have camera technology to deal with rain because there was half of this game where you just weren't watching. Yeah. If it was playing Pittsburgh, they'd have something to wipe off the lens
Starting point is 00:30:41 with. That's true. But no, you can't disrespect the terrible dog. Yeah, can't do that. But yeah, so the Ravens one seed, Steelers in can't believe my Tom and like, I get it because Pittsburgh, they judge everything on Super Bowls, they have a history. It's a different organization than a lot like, then probably 27 of the other organizations the NFL. There's some organizations that are like, we care about soup bowls and nothing else. I would kill for Mike Tomlin.
Starting point is 00:31:10 17 years, never under 500, 10, 10 plus win seasons and Pittsburgh fans just complain about him nonstop. Well, cause to me, what that would mean would be getting like 10 weekends a year where you feel superior to everybody else on earth. And all these extra games you're making the playoffs every now. You get a week of anticipation for the playoffs usually two weeks, sometimes three weeks. That would be so much fun. But then you become like a victim of your own success.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And now all of a sudden it's not good enough anymore. Yeah, you need to win the Super Bowl. Okay, next game. I have a question for you. Yeah. Mason Rudolph. Is he going to be the quarterback in Pittsburgh next year? He might be. He might be. He's playing well. Yeah. Mason Rudolph. Is he going to be the quarterback in Pittsburgh next year? He might be. He might be. He's playing well. Big face and all.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah. Good story. Yeah. We've always been Mason Rudolph guys. We've never said anything bad about it. Nope. He's wearing a nice like smokers jacket walking into the stadium. TJ Watt was wearing the bully hours Jersey Jerry sweatshirt which fits.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Then he got hurt. Then he got hurt. Some were saying, although Jerry got blessed so I and I actually believe him he said that if TJ Wad had torn his ACL he would have done a stream just trying to tear his ACL and he would have done it yeah and it would have been great it would have been great theater okay next game Texans Colts Josh Allen is oh my man Josh Allen just got a huge put put there's a flag on the field. Third and 13 run by Josh Allen. This is an epic meltdown by the dolphins. I don't know,
Starting point is 00:32:32 they're only up 14. No, just the season. Oh, yeah, the division. I think the vision. That's insane. Yeah, no, this is it's crazy to think that there was a moment where the bills were six and six and the dolphins were what? Defensive old thing defensive old thing dolphins were like nine and three. Yeah, it was we thought they was really we thought they broke football. It was that tightness. We scored seven nine. Broncos where it's like these guys have figured out how to play football on a level nobody's even thought of yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anytime that's a good reminder Jake keep that as reminder anytime someone breaks football chip Kelly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Kelly broke football. It's never real. You're like, Mike McDaniel got so high that he figured out how to do offense in a way that the human mind has never comprehended. Or he just had really fast guys. And when one of the fast guys isn't playing, they don't look as fast. Yeah. Maybe that.
Starting point is 00:33:19 They have a lot of injuries. Dolphins have had a shitload of injuries. Uh, okay. Texans 23 Colts 19. Uh, the Houston Texans are your AFC South winners, champions, incredible turnaround, new coach, new quarterback going from the second worst team in the league last year to winning the AFC South. It's insane. And CJ Stroud, he is so, so, so much fun to watch. He was throwing bullets on Saturday night. That drive, he had to drive. It was 17, 17, you know, season on the line. They have to win to get in. If they don't win, they're out of the playoffs. And he went seven for
Starting point is 00:33:59 seven. He took them 73 yards in seven minutes, uh, 12 plays for a touchdown, turned out to be the winning drive. He's just so goddamn good. Right off the bat, that deep bomb to Nico. Oh, yeah. The first thing I thought of when they did that, I was like, this is the Monday night football game with Mike Vick against the Redskins all over again. And then I found out later, they got the inspiration to run that play from that Monday night football game, where it's like, let's, why are we going to wait to step on the throw? Let's just step on the throw with the first pass.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And it was, it was, it seemed like he could do no wrong after that. Even though the Texas defense had a very, very hard time with Jonathan Taylor. And John Taylor was incredible. But CJ Stroud, one last thing I want to say about CJ Stroud. CJ Stroud, if you had someone watch their first game of football and they watched CJ Stroud, they would immediately be like, that quarterback is elite because the like the calm and poisey has in the pocket in the throws.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He was making like no leverage back, back foot, just darts right down the middle in the middle of the field, like crazy throws. And he's just awesome to watch. I don't, I was thinking about it. How many teams would say no, if they asked, if you, if you called them up and was like, CJ Stroud for your quarterback? The bills, the chiefs.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I think it's four. I think it's the bangles and the Ravens. Ravens. I think that's it. I think every other team would probably say yes. Yeah. Especially given his contract. Cause he's, you know, first year. what about the Eagles? They, they were in the
Starting point is 00:35:26 Super Bowl last year. The Eagles would 100% take CJ Stroud. I don't know what other team thinks so. What other team would say no to CJ Stroud? I think the Eagles might say no to them. Like is there any other team that would say no to CJ Stroud? If the, if the GM called them, there would be no reason for the GM to do this. But like, they're like, CJ Stroud straight up for your quarterback. I think there's four guys. Maybe the Cowboys, because I could see Jerry Jones being like, I found that guy. And he would be... I took a flyer on him.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He's my guy. And he would be an idiot. Yeah, well, be an idiot. I mean, this is C.J. Shroud is like, in one year has gotten into this territory, where it's like, this is a guy that is just, he is that dude, and he is just like a sure fired slam dunk guy. I actually think that if you made somebody watch their first game of football and it was CJ Stroud
Starting point is 00:36:10 playing they'd be like football is really easy. Yeah. Playing quarterback is simple. Yeah, you just stand in there and right when they're when the big strong fat guys are about to jump on you, you just throw a million miles an hour right to your receivers hands. Pretty easy. And there was a great post game interview that SVP did with him where he was trying so hard to get CJ Stroud to open up about something, get fiery. He's very, very guarded and cautious with the media. And then SVP just started to talk about Ohio State Michigan and CJ tried to keep him at bay, tried to keep him,
Starting point is 00:36:39 and he was like, no, what about your teammate though? He's a Michigan guy, you're a Ohio State guy. What do you say to him? And he was like, like yeah sucks that he went there he finally like broke down and showed he seems like a cool guy but you have to get past a couple of layers of him being like he still wants to be like the mr. All-American right right right which is not a fault against him it's like this you get right to start in quarterback job in the NFL you're the
Starting point is 00:37:02 face of a franchise you wanted to say and do all the right things. But when you broke down a little bit, it's like, I think I would like hanging out with that guy. Yeah, and I'm by the way, I'm happy for Texans fans because they obviously, we were looting it to earlier. Like, they went through many, many years where they just, it was a carousel of guys. And then they got a surefire no doubter into Sean Watson. And then a lot of shit happened.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of shit happened. And it's like, how can you have a guy that is that good and now he's not on your team anymore? He, because remember, before the Sean Watson stories came out, he wanted to get traded. Yeah, like, so that, like that timeline gets a little confused. So to have that, like, taking away from you
Starting point is 00:37:41 where you thought you had a franchise quarterback for the next 15 years, and then be able to get CJ shroud. It's almost like a make it's like a ball don't lie. So balls don't lie. The Texans like that's good because you you were staring if you were Texans fan, especially with how last year went and you were just going through coaches. And now you have this guy that you're like, I have, I have someone I can roof for for the next 15 years.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah. And shout out to the Texans and love you Smith. Yeah. I can root for it for the next 15 years. Yeah, and shout out to the Texans and Lovey Smith. Yeah, in that one play that we all thought was, consequential for different reasons. Actually, ended up helping out the Texans a lot. Also, I completely memory hold the coach that was there before Lovey Smith. Do you remember his name?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah, fuck. He was there for one year, right? I had to look up his name earlier today, yeah. He's an old guy. Old guy, big collars on his shirt. Give me the first letter of his name earlier today. Yeah, it's an old guy. Old guy, big collars on his shirt. Give me the first letter of his name. D.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Dave. Yeah. I don't remember. David. David. I got it. What is it? Coli.
Starting point is 00:38:36 David Coli, yeah. You remember David Coli? Yeah. And everyone's like, he got a raw deal. He got a raw deal, yeah. And so did Lovey. Yeah. But Dmitri Cohen's awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Texas is awesome. as for the cults So Jonathan Taylor was incredible nothing to hang their head about Jonathan Taylor Well a little to hang their head out about because Jonathan Taylor was unstoppable. It was kind of like a perfect Cap to the season like oh, yeah, it's good thing. We did pay that guy because he's really really good Couldn't be stopped 168 yards and then you had the Shane Steak in time out into a fourth and one where they didn't have Jonathan Taylor on the field and there's going to be a shot. They decided to throw the ball to an Iowa Hawkeye. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:21 And he didn't catch it. So it was a good play call. It was a great quick play call. The play call worked. The timeout before the play call was bad was stupid and not enough people are talking about that. That was one of the dumbest timeouts. Because it should have worked though. And there were people who were defending the timeout and being like, well, you're going down with the ship right then. I don't care that like you know you need that play. You have to give yourself as many opportunities to still win the game. And if they had kept that time out, they would have probably gotten the ball back with about 45 seconds.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And you would have obviously would have taken a miracle. But at least you give yourself that avenue. Instead they take the time out, call up that play. Gardner Minshars Pass wasn't great. Tyler Goodson also probably could have caught it. But that sucked because Shane Steichen had an incredible first year and it all fell flat there. So when they say like that's do or die time,
Starting point is 00:40:12 you want your guys to be in do or die mode. No, not in that point, you don't. You want your guys to be in do or do or die mode. Yeah. So like you lost out on another opportunity to do by taking that time out. Right, you just died. You made it. Do or die. Yeah, you made it to or die.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yeah. And then we got the fun safety at the end, which I always love. That was, yeah, although the punter kind of fucked up, he should have, he, he, there's one second line. He could have just thrown the ball or kicked it out of bounds. Yeah. And waited till he hit the ground. I just love a punter just running for their life because it's just, that's another one.
Starting point is 00:40:39 If you had someone watch their first, first game of football, they'd be like, what's going on here? Yeah, you wouldn't have to like, The guy just running backwards for his life. You remember when Harbaugh did that a couple of years ago where he had everybody hold on the last play and then just hope that their punter didn't get their ass kicked? Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, I just love a random safety at the end because you can always just be like,
Starting point is 00:40:56 that was the smart move. Yep, that was the correct move. All right, we got a big fourth down, a measurement. The dolphins get the ball back. Wow, with a minute 53 left. This could be the ultimate melt up. Melt up. Yeah. My big go for two if they get a touchdown for the division. I would say probably correct. Yeah. Probably your offense. Deflon digs is not happy. The Tush push did not work. Although you kind of did a jump though. It did
Starting point is 00:41:21 like a lot of also put his. That was far. That was a rough. He also kind of got it. I don't know. That's what people like that. The ball right there is a is pass the first down line. Yeah, but they stopped it so early with quarterbacks. Yeah. Okay, we'll update when we see the Dolphins final drive.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Titans 28 Jaguars 20. What? What? Titans 20. What? 28. Titans 28. He said 20. No, I? What Titans 20? What 28? 28 Titans 28. No, I said,
Starting point is 00:41:48 Titan 28 Jaguars 20 max. Yeah, yeah, they definitely said 28. All right. Come get your boy. Self on, cell phone. Um, the Jacksonville Jaguars are out of the playoffs and all time, all time meltdown. They were sitting, uh, in week 13 at eight and three going up against Jake Browning in a Bengal season. They felt like it was they were just going to play out the
Starting point is 00:42:13 string and not try. And then they went and they lost five games out of their last six and they're only win from the eight and three was against the Panthers. Yeah, they lost to Jake Browning, lost to Flacco, Lamar Baker and then Tannnell. Yeah. To end out the season. They were the one seed at one point and Jags fans were feeling pretty happy. Prisco was dancing, his head was spinning. Yep. And then the schedule reared its ugly head. This is not the schedule that Prisco had envisioned. No, when he drew them up as super bowl contenders at the start of the season.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah, eight and three, and then went one and five to close out the season. I do feel bad for Jags fans. I do. It was a pretty, because we even said on Friday, we think the Titans are gonna win this game, because it was Raible, and it was, you know, Derek Henry's last game And it's just so perfectly the Jags to have this type of game where even like how it ended with Trevor Lawrence not being able to get that
Starting point is 00:43:13 Remember that play he did against the chargers was against chargers where he did the Superman lunge Yeah, his arm. He's arm was about two yards short I hit the the play call was like Trevor just stick your arm out and then hope that it grows about six feet in the air. Yeah. Like Michael Jordan in Space Jam and it did not work out for them. It was a sad ending. If you're Jaguars fan, I don't think that you put the blame on this meltdown on Doug Peterson
Starting point is 00:43:37 entirely. I think you say Trevor needs to be better and Trevor was probably hurt. And also what injured. Yeah, and it was probably hurt. And then I think you also have to take a look at your OC. Yeah, I think they're going to bring Doug back. Doug's not going to get fired for this meltdown. Their whole offense was just clunky.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Their defense failed them. It was just a very, it was a meltdown of a season. And it was a step back because they were that team last year. It was like, remember that, you know, I think they lost the the Chiefs maybe by 10. They're like, oh man, they, you know, they want to play off game. They went to Kansas City. They held their own, the sky's the limit for the Jags. They're going to be on the up and up. And Trevor Lawrence took a big step back. And the Jaguars took a big step
Starting point is 00:44:16 back and losing this game. It would be more shocking if it wasn't just so Jaguars. I do have a prediction though that we're going to get the post mortem mind the Jaguar season and it's gonna be Trevor Lawrence was actually super, super injured and that is the AFC's title. The bills have put off to and the bills. Oh no, did you get hurt? The point. Also Tyree was. He got hurt.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Tyreex always hurt. It's crazy. Yeah. And the Buffalo bills are your AFC East champions. Holy shit. All right, let's finish. Well, there's nothing we're gonna do. I know, but you need to be this one.
Starting point is 00:44:50 What about me, Jake? You have a good future too? The Grazpie Ft. Yeah, well mine's only 20 to one. Cause I had the start of the year. But all right, let's talk about this game after we finished the Jags real quick. So the Jags join, it was the 2021 Ravens, which I think they, I think
Starting point is 00:45:07 Lamar got hurt, right? Yeah, he got hurt. So they started eight and three. The Eagles did it in 2014, but they were also, that was also before there were seven playoff teams, which is also crazy to be eight and three and not make the playoffs. Yeah. Bears did do it in 2012. That was a year the love he got fired. They finished 10 and six. Going eight and three and missing the playoffs is crazy. In a 17 playoff. It's really tough. It's really, really hard to do. Hard to do. I just, I feel bad. I actually doubt that Jags fans are listening to this podcast. If your Jaguars fan that that bears the courage to tune into part of my take on a Monday after the Jaguars finish up their collapse, like you were, you were a brave human being.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I know. Thank you. And I feel really bad too, because there are some like, I was saying that, you know, we were talking about what teams we wouldn't want to see in the playoffs. And I said, I don't really want to see this version of the Jaguars because they're just injured and hurt and everything.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And I realized as I was making that argument, I was essentially making the Florida State argument, and there are Jaguars Florida State fans that have just gone through hell. Like if you talk to a Jaguars Florida State fan, and you could be like, hey, remember early November, like that was awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:18 You had the world in front of you. And now you just like everything that could have gone wrong went wrong, and I do feel bad for Jags fans. As for the Titans, Derek Henry, maybe last game in Titans uniform? It looked like he took the mic after the game and said thanks to all the kids up there
Starting point is 00:46:32 that looked up to me. So when you drop a thanks youngsters, I feel like that's probably good indication that you've played your last game there. Anyone out in a hell of a way? Yeah. 158 yards, 153 yards touchdown, ran all over him.
Starting point is 00:46:44 You could tell he was like, you had that, that extra bounce that Derek Henry bounce, um, and the Titans, they got a lot of questions going to the off season. But if you're a Titans fan, like, you have Mike variable, you have to feel good about that. Yeah. And I've heard some stuff about the Titans. Maybe not bringing them back next year. It should be still up in there.
Starting point is 00:47:02 It would be great. I know. Every team would want him. Yeah. And every team in the AFC South should hope that variable does not get him back next year. It would be crazy. It would be crazy. It would be crazy. Every team would want him. Yeah. And every team in the AFC South should hope that variable does not get brought back next year. Yes. He's a very good coach.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I'd be lucky to have him as a head coach. And I think anybody in this room, right? We'd all take him. Yeah. Yeah. Second. Yeah. Max would take him.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yeah. In a second. In a second. Fuck yeah, I'd take him. He's fucking awesome coach. So yeah, Jags done and that was what made the Steelers into the playoffs. So the Jags needed and also insured the bills whether winner lose were going to get into the playoffs. So bills 21 dolphins 14. We could do this right now. That is, it is crazy that the Buffalo bills have won the AFC. He's after all of this. They have maybe had the craziest weirdest season
Starting point is 00:47:45 in terms of they've looked like absolute dog shit. They've looked awesome. This game was a perfect microcosm for the entire bill season. And now the two seed where they, they're packed to the AFC championship game. They've what, the Steelers at home. And then they're gonna get maybe the Chiefs. If the Chiefs, you know, like depends if they're receding or not.
Starting point is 00:48:07 But yeah, put two home games for where the bills were when they were six or six. They avoid the Ravens and championship games. Six and six going against the chiefs. It is crazy to think and this is this is a perfect microcosm. You write down to the fact that they won this game at the end. It's crazy. The bill season has been nuts. They've been dead.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I feel like we've buried the bills like three times on this show. Yeah. We even like slightly buried them after week one. But we've also revived them because they give the whole speech before the chiefs game. Like if you like, if you think the bills win that chiefs game, bet them to win the Super Bowl at 35 to one because they're, they have seen so wide open and the bills best is just as good as anyone else. The bill's worst is really, really bad. Which is crazy is we got Josh Allen's worst in this game. Yeah. Like this was bad Josh.
Starting point is 00:48:49 They managed to beat the Miami Dolphins with bad Josh Allen tonight. Yeah. And I think they, they, it resueled Douglas might be hurt, which that's a big loss for them. Gabe Davis got banged up. Dolphins also like, I know it's a meltdown for the dolphins. They did have some significant significant injuries. Yeah, their office align got banged up a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Well, I mean, Jalen Phillips, Bradley Chubb, Xavier and Howard, Moster, Waddle. These are all pro bowl guys that are, they have a top end talent type of team. So when you lose that top end talent, they look very different. Yeah, Tua looked very confused and hurt tonight. That was sad to see sad Tua.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And now they have to go to Kansas City. And it's going to be Tyreeks Return, Saturday night peacock. What a storyline. Wow, what a storyline. Tyreek going back. But he already played against the chiefs. In Germany.
Starting point is 00:49:42 In Germany. Yeah, I remember. It's the true German. And the bills are the AFCs champions. They're going to be double the Jaffa favorites But he already played against the chiefs in Germany in Germany. Yeah, I think they'll probably be 10 if TJ Was not playing the point favorite. Yeah, how many points do you think TJ's worth probably feel goal right? Yeah, I mean, you got a feel goal. Maybe like one and a half to see if the spreads up yet. Well, it gets the spread I'm gonna say nine and a half to see if the spreads up yet. Well, guess the spread. I'm gonna say nine and a half. Yeah I'm not in half. Yeah, I think I think it will I think it might go I'll say I'll guess nine I'll go with you nine and a half and I think it will end up being 10 maybe 10 and a half people are definitely
Starting point is 00:50:16 On the bills. Yeah, yeah, and Lindenford night is 28 years old. Yeah playoff Lenny this this kind of sucks for a Steelers because I do think that the Steelers had a chance of maybe beating the Chiefs because the Chiefs, like the Steelers matched up well with the Chiefs and the fact that the Chiefs offense is so broken that they're not going to blow anyone out and you could play like a low scoring grind it out game and maybe beat the Chiefs. Bills have an offense that could blow someone out. If TJ White plays though, I could see world where the linebackers and the defensive ends on the Steelers
Starting point is 00:50:49 just make Josh's life hell. True. And force him into some weird plays. True. Or just like standard Josh Allen, weird plays. Yeah, yeah. But what about the Dolphins chiefs line? Oh.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Oh, good question. I'm gonna say, chiefs six. A hat of both here. And they're actually both surprising. I'm gonna say, that's my chief six. Six, and they're actually both sizing. I'm gonna say chiefs, I thought, I thought ten was too much. I think it's, I think it's six and a half, four and a half. I think it's chiefs. Oh, what is it, chiefs three? Chiefs one and a half.
Starting point is 00:51:18 What? To open. Oh, I would, I would hammer the chiefs. And Bill's seven and a half. All right, our lines are bad. We were both bad, we're bad. Oh no, it's already changing. It's changing the live right now Yeah, cuz it's just three. Yeah, bill still seven and a half. Okay, so I was right about the chiefs I changed quickly a lot that changed quickly. I the dolphins are just I guess it depends on if most are in
Starting point is 00:51:39 Waddle play like if most are in Waddle play then I would see it being like Yeah, three or four if they don't playphins offense is just not as scary as it was. Also the temperature, the temperature tips lower. Temperature matters a lot. He's happens every time with the Dolphins and the playoffs. They had scholar Thompson last year. A few years ago, they played at Pittsburgh and Matt Moore had to start.
Starting point is 00:51:59 It's just, it's crazy. Oh wait, so I'm looking at the weather right now. Kansas City, Missouri, Saturday, high of 14, low of four. I imagine it's probably gonna be like nine degrees. We're about to have a cold snap boys. I'm thinking I'm gonna hammer the chiefs. The chiefs wait again we go back to what we said like a week ago The chiefs might actually be very dangerous this playoffs. I think the Steelers can keep it close because we got all the money. Patrick Mahomes people are actually disrespecting the chiefs and like they can't do anything
Starting point is 00:52:29 And it's Patrick mohms. It's Patrick mohms So that really that that's that's all you got to say it's Patrick mohms in the playoffs. You don't want to bet against that guy Okay, let's keep going We can whip through some of these lions 30 Vikings 20. The big news is Sam Laporta got hurt. Yeah, that sucks. Weak 18 injuries are the worst. So so Dan Campbell said that it was not as bad as it looked, but it's still not good. So I think that probably means like a two three week injury. So probably not going to help really, really bad for their offense. The lions were I don't know. Would you say, like, I know that they were still alive
Starting point is 00:53:07 for the two seed, and I think it's kind of playing like hindsight's 2020. I have no problem with Dan Campbell like trying to win that game, especially because the Cowboys and the Eagles don't play till later. You have to get your team back into winning mode. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You have to get bad taste, man. Yeah, bad taste. And Dan Campbell, I think he's the king of bad taste. I don't think that the lines have lost back to back games Yeah, so they're consistent. Yeah, and the Lions also just won their 12th game last time they won 12 games good for the Lions is 1991 also last time they want to play off game. That's very good. So there you go It's also the first time ever that the Browns lines and Texans have all made the playoffs. Wow And that makes that makes sense. The Texans Wow. And that makes history. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:53:45 The Texans started in what way. 2001. That makes perfect sense. I also am very happy for Lions fans because as the day was playing out and it was clear the Packers were going to be in the playoffs and the Rams were down in the fourth quarter of the 49ers, it dawned on me that the Packers going to Detroit and beating the Lions is actually so, so, so much worse than if Stafford goes to Detroit and beats the Lions is actually so, so, so much worse than if Stafford goes to Detroit and beats the Lions because the Pat the Lions finally win the NFC North first time in franchise
Starting point is 00:54:11 history. The Packers are under rebuilding here. If the Packers went and beat the Lions in the playoffs in Detroit, it basically like wipe out the whole season like the Packers are still the Kings of the North. So this is even though there's the the the weird feeling of having Stafford come back. I think this is a far better situation than having the Packers potentially beat the line. Well, I hope they win. I hope they win whether they were playing the Packers or the Rams, but this I think is better for Lions fans. I think most Lions fans will agree. Also the Packers went there on Thanksgiving, right? Eat the shit out of it. Right. So that would be bad news.
Starting point is 00:54:43 But it would just feel like all this we made all this pro progress. Yeah. We that would be bad news. And it would just feel like all this, we made all this progress and we're just right back here. I still would feel very, very bad for Lions fans if Matt Stafford comes and wins that game. That would be tough. Neither one would be great. It would win the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:56 This is actually spin zone. It's just a great week in general to be in Michigan. You have the potential to win a national championship. Yep. Tonight, Monday night, and then stay drunk until the Detroit lines get a home playoff game. Yeah, that's a great week. That's a great week. It's a great week. Beer season, baby. As for the Vikings, they got a lot of questions coming up, but I was looking at it. The Vikings are the 11 pick. They can bring back Kirk
Starting point is 00:55:20 cousins and draft a quarterback. Like, I don't know where Michael Pentax and J&D and those are going to go, but those are pretty, two pretty good options. They'd probably be right around that spot. Yeah. Right. So, and the Vikings ended up losing four, four games in a row to finish the season. I do feel bad.
Starting point is 00:55:36 The Vikings were a lot better than last year, a lot more complete team and Kirk cousins got hurt. Yeah. Now was the theme of this season for a lot of teams. And then Jaren Hall for reasons. Jeren Hall happened something with him trying to find the hot hand. Although Nick Mullens, I think that game did pretty much end on the almost an identical duck.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah, well Nick Mullens is going to give you one or two of those. But this also puts Dan Campbell six and O against the spread against the Vikings. So Jake, just remember we're going to auto bet Dan Campbell against the Vikings next year. Both times are just the first time. Both times. I'm going to say right now, both times. It's not a bet. Auto bet. Okay. So it and the Lions defense is getting healthy. So they had a Lee McNeil back who is one of their most important players, defensive lineman and CJ Gardner Johnson, I think, is back to.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah, he played today, but Branch got hurt. I don't know if he's gonna... That's bad. Can we see how badly he got hurt? That sucks so bad that Sam LaPorter got hurt. I know. Like, we can't see the injuries. Turn injuries off.
Starting point is 00:56:37 You know what they should do? They should just turn injuries off. We had a wrist injury. Brian Branch has a wrist injury. My guess is he probably just played with that. Yeah, you can play with that. Dan Campbell would look at that would look at that be like I'll cut it off. Yeah, I'll cut that I'll bite that wrist off Yeah, what was the what was the stat that was just sent on our text messages? It's not it's not well Technically, it's true
Starting point is 00:56:58 But the 49ers one of sat other starters But the lines finished 12 and 5 tie with the 49ers and cowboys if If they hadn't blown that call against the cowboys, they would have been the one seed. But yeah, they hadn't blown the call. The 49ers would have played to the right. Yes, correct. But they still would have been ahead of the cowboys. Correct. They would have had the two seed. Yeah, you should feel bad. Yes. Yes. Okay. Next up, Saints 48 Falcon 17. This game ended up not mattering whatsoever. For a moment in time, the Saints had a path. The Bears were not able to beat the Packers as we'll get to.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And the Seahawks did end up winning as well. So there was a moment, though, where the Saints almost, they're like, oh, we could maybe get in if both these teams lose. But the big story here is, James Winston being the greatest teammate of all time. This was James week Yes So it wasn't just James though. So so what happened was at the end of the game They got the the Saints got the ball in the one yard line and they got a pick They got a pick the ball was at the one yard line going in and they
Starting point is 00:57:57 They lined up in victory formation and then James handed it off to Jamal Williams and Jamal Williams you might remember last year, he scored 17 touchdowns. Let the league. Let the league had no touchdowns this year because they basically asked him to be a fullback after they had some injuries. So everybody in the huddle according to James and also according to their team captain, Eric McCoy,
Starting point is 00:58:19 they said that it's a team decision to get a guy that got moved to fullback and that his buses asked, get him in the in zone. So out of victory formation, James hands the ball off to him, gets a touchdown. Then after the game, we have Arthur Smith yelling at Dennis Allen at midfield and then Dennis Allen basically being like, yeah, I know I agree with you. I'm sorry. It was classless.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I didn't tell my guys to do that. Right. So what we have here is Dennis Allen losing the locker room. The whole team went rogue. It was a mutiny. The whole team was like, it was like in Rudy when they put their jerseys on a table and they said, we want this guy coach. That's what they did for Jamal Williams. So then Dennis Allen had to apologize after the game. He said, it's unacceptable. That's not who we are. Not what we're about. That's bullshit. That you your team did the right thing. Well, so I actually don't think Arthur Smith was Was wrong in in being upset because of the victory formation
Starting point is 00:59:10 That was the weird part like he was mad that they were lined up in the victory formation and then handed the ball off But James turns out like he he was asked about it afterwards and he's like, yeah We as a team decided we wanted to get your mob Williams to touchdown and There was a reporter who was really sassy with Jamis. He was like, do you feel good about that? And Jamis was like, yeah, we as a team decided to do this. And Jamis was like, do you feel good about it? And the reporter was like, no, I don't feel good about it.
Starting point is 00:59:36 You have to play them two times a year. And it's like, okay. And Jamis was actually handled very well. He was just like, I'm just trying to be respectful. And like, thank you for your input, but this is a, like the guys in the locker and the huddle wanted to do this and we did it for Jamal Williams.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And James just proves yet again these best teammates ever. When's this guy upset about like, oh, maybe the next time the Saints and the Falcons play each other, they're not gonna like each other? That's essentially what he was saying. That's probably baked in.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah. Like it's the Saints and the Falcons playing each other. They already hate each other. You think that's probably baked in. Yeah. Like it's the saints and the falcons, between each other. They already hate each other. You can't hate a guy more. Yeah. Yeah, he was like, James, like do you do you disagree? Or the guy said, I disagree with your decision.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And he's like, you mean our decision? Because James is like, it was a team decision. So you disagree with the whole team. Yeah. And the guy had nothing. He was just being a salty little bitch. Yeah. And also, James had been brought in numerous times this year just to take
Starting point is 01:00:25 knees right at the end of the game. So if James were mad, I guess the team are Saints insider Ben Mints said, people were mad. Yeah. Because they thought that it was beneath James Winston to come in and just take knees. I agree with that. Yeah. I agree. So I don't have a problem with what James did. I don't have a problem with what the Saints did. Also. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree. So I don't have a problem with what James did. I don't have a problem with what the Saints did. Also, I agree with Arthur Smith that he's pissed off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yes, Arthur Smith, you are pissed off. Right. And I probably have the right to be pissed off because it's a victory formation. It's a victory for it. And also, you're getting blown out. Your job is kind of on the line. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And then to have that happen at the end, it feels like it's kind of twisting the knife. I honestly think that if they had lined up in a regular formation in scored a touchdown I honestly don't think Arthur Smith would have had a problem I think it was the victory formation part that was weird and he watched it was like what the fuck is going on here I also think that is it in you're in the moment you don't know that James in the the huddle They all decided to do that. In the moment, it looks like they're just, like, they're basically doing a victory formation to like, Oki-Dokyu and then score a touchdown on your face, which is bullshit, and given
Starting point is 01:01:33 like, just that. Well, what happens next time is they get out and victory formation and then you have your defense line just crush them. Yeah. So, and then that opens up a whole new can of worms where there'll be another fight. I agree, the victory formation probably not the best idea. And I don't have a problem with him scoring a touch. And I don't think, I think the Saints probably had to do that
Starting point is 01:01:49 because if they had lined up in a regular offense, Dennis Allen probably would have taken a time out. Maybe, yeah. And been like, what the fuck are you guys doing? It just seems to me like they don't respect Dennis Allen. And one of us. Yeah, also happy for Jamal Williams. That was cool.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Like your whole team to ride for you like that. It's very cool. And so now the Falcons have, I think they've got the eight, the eight pick wrapped up, they're picking eighth in the draft, that just means they're gonna get another awesome receiver. Yeah. Or running back.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Or running back. Yeah, but probably, probably a Dunes day. Yeah. They're probably gonna get a Dunes day. And I have a take. They're gonna have the best collection of skill players. Well, my take is that if Taylor Hanuky started the entire season, the Falcons are in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yeah, I was gonna say, and we'll get this when we get to the draft, because the draft does run through us for one, two, and three. I would maybe take a doonsay, well, from our veneers in junior. Oh, I think Tom Frennelli said that too. Okay, so Tom and I are lockstep in this. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I don't think it will happen. Right, I think I'd do it. It does, it does feel good having the top three picks. What are you gonna do? We'll get to it. All right jets patriots Memes congratulations big win from memes 15 in a row snapped now you start a streak Who I whoa, what was that are you in the ring? No, no not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Patriot is gonna be him wrapped up like sub zero in the snow or like a six-year-old going to preschool or whatever grade You're in when you're in sixth grade kindergarten and just getting bullied what what What
Starting point is 01:03:33 What whatever grade you're in when you're in sixth grade or whatever grade you're in when you're six years old Yeah, yeah, and getting bull I'm sorry, but Bellicic got bullied today. Yeah, that is true. That was a weird way to say it Yeah got bullied in the snow. Yeah, they got smoked. Was that it? I don't know. I haven't heard as much as as much rumors. He did schedule his media thing tomorrow
Starting point is 01:03:56 for 7 30 in the morning, which is. I thought that. What if he, what if what if Bellicicic quits before he can get fired? That I mean, it probably it probably problem. It was a sad day. McDonald's was there. I was Slater's last game, Bella checks last game. Everyone's everyone's leaving town.
Starting point is 01:04:12 It's sad. The last dance. It's over. It's probably. And it didn't go out well. No, it did. We got a better draft pick. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But like the product on the field was not great. You can't have that much success for that long. It's nothing last forever, Big Cat. Unfortunately. But the last five years? They made the playoffs a couple years ago. They beat the ball. Back Jones is a pro blow.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah, right. It's a pro blow or? Remember that Buffalo game, that was so much fun. Yeah, so how many more games Mac Jones starts the NFL? Why was he deactivated today? I don't know. That didn't make a lot of sense. do you more games Mac Jones starts the NFL? Why was he deactivated today? I don't know that didn't make it a lot of sense how many more games over under six and a half over I would take the under what NFL look who's start look who plays What a shit load of quarterbacks coming into the draft a lot of injuries though. I'd say over. Okay
Starting point is 01:05:01 Jeff drussell started today Yeah, Jeff Drisco, a Jim Tristro started today. Yeah. Jeff Tristro. A.G. Macarons played today. Yeah. Didn't start. Didn't start. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Didn't start. Like the whole Vikings season. So what, by the way, congratulations, Bill Bell check. Tied the record for most regular season losses and also most losses overall. So pretty impressive. Sure. Just means you've been doing it a whole set. It's a total of a tie.
Starting point is 01:05:27 No, I mean, it's 165 losses, Dan Rees and Jeff Fisher, he tied, and then including playoffs, 178 tied with Tom Landry. He's a football lifeer. I mean, yeah, he's got a shitload of wins. Like LeBron. Take enough shots. You're gonna miss a few. I do hope he quits though
Starting point is 01:05:45 That'd be great, wouldn't it? It would be awesome He's like fuck everyone. You guys are you guys are not thankful for what I did you be walking away from a ton of money Yeah, but he but with that offset if he gets a new job it probably has offset language, yeah So what are you gonna do? What do you mean you're the third pick What are you gonna do I I asked you mean? You're the third pick. What are you gonna do? I ask you first. I need to see what you're gonna do. No, no, no? It's the opposite of tanking the future.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Well, no, but you tank. You get rid of, you know, picks an ass that's and as a gamble, the Patriots don't do that. But you need a quarterback. Also Hank. But they're like, you just said there's a lot of quarterbacks in this draft. But one thing you're not realizing though
Starting point is 01:06:38 is the guy that doesn't do that is Bill Belletcheck. True. I don't, I have no fucking idea. I've never been in this position where the draft matter is. You should think about what you're doing. I have never paid attention to fucking idea. I've never been in this position where the draft batters are. You should think about where you're going to be. I have never paid attention to the draft. I've never cared.
Starting point is 01:06:49 The Patriots usually pick 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st. They draft a line, and they trade down. They have like three picks. Who cares? I've never worried about the draft, ever. So I have no idea. I saw Marvin Harris and Junior in person on the field in Wisconsin against Ohio State.
Starting point is 01:07:06 He was really, really good. I would like him on the Patriots. I heard Caleb Williams is really good. Kyle Long when he was here on week was really selling me on him. I believe Kyle Long. I don't fucking know. So you're gonna stay in Daniel's husband. LSU. Are you gonna trade down or you stay put? I don't know. You don't know. You don't have a plan. It sounds like you don't have a plan. You have to have a plan.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I've said, Sounds like you might not even get your draft card in on time. I'm down from Marvin Harrison Jr. Okay, and he's gonna slip right because if you're gonna take Caleb Williams, you're gonna take Drake Williams. I didn't say, I don't think you understand how this works.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Why would you not take Caleb Williams? We hold the power, the picks in front of you, not you. You need to make me an offer. Yeah, right. We're not doing that. Oh, okay. We're gonna see who's available, when we're gonna see who's available when it comes to us. I'm not the fucking patriots. I don't know what they're gonna do.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Who is the patriots? Robert Kraft is the owner of the patriots. Jonathan Kraft runs. So the way, if you're not the patriots, you don't know what they're gonna do. Why do you keep asking me what I'm gonna do? Because you are in a spot where you're like Justin feels just Palabliams is franchise quarterback no you were smart no you would take another
Starting point is 01:08:13 Cable and get rid of Justin feels Listening to me what have I said you I swear to God you have not listened to showing last month? Well you flip flop every show which I One show you say one thing. No, I'm not every show, which I have listened to. I'm not the one show you say one thing. No, I've not. I've not. I've not said. No, I've said Ryan Poles, whatever he does, I'm down for.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But why did I just said? Right. Well, Ryan Poles is going to make the decision. What decisions do you want him to make? I don't care whatever he's going to make is going to be the right decision because he's a smart guy and he put us in a great spot. Got it. That's the point.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Got it. I've been saying that for a month. Do you have an idea or do you know what do you think he's going to a great spot got it. That's the point got it. I've been saying that for a month Would you have it like a an idea of or do you know? What do you think you yeah win? We're gonna win interesting. We're gonna make moves We're gonna fucking make bang if you are a driver range Rover We can get chicks and it's gonna be sick if you were Ryan poles. Who would you take if I were Ryan poles? I would talk I if I were Ryan poles is exactly what I would do if I were Ryan poles I would and this is actually interesting because Ryan Poles Deleted his Twitter because he's like I don't I don't want the outside you would never do that right so but if I were Ryan Poles
Starting point is 01:09:13 So he deleted his Twitter I happen to have Ryan Poles cell phone number so I texted him this morning I said I saw you deleted Twitter good news is I have your phone number so we can talk at any time so the I will write Yeah, he did. He's he did crying face emoji. He was like like the actual crying, you know, crying laughing. I think it was maybe crying. Like actually, like why is this guy texting me? If I were Ryan Poles, I would open up my phone
Starting point is 01:09:43 and text my confidant Podcasts are big cat and I ask them what to do and podcast a big cat would say well no, I'm Ryan polls right now What are you talking about what if I would if you were both big cat and I can't be two men at once come on Let's see which one would be other maybe what who do you want me to be the one that's gonna give an answer on what I just gave you an answer I Ryan polls I'd ask big cat if I'm big cat, I trust Ryan Pulse. What do you think is best for the future of the Chicago Bears? Whatever Ryan Pulse decides to do. If Ryan Pulse got hit by a bus, what would you do?
Starting point is 01:10:15 I think I'd be next in command. And then what would you do? I would trade every single pick and try to do my dream of having every single pick in the first round in 2028. Okay. You just dropped a super deep. I'll just, I would start tanking for arch. Imagine just having all those picks,
Starting point is 01:10:30 just stockpiling all these picks, just been like, look at all these picks. It is nice looking at the draft order right now. I'm a future's element. Yeah, I'm addicted to it. I'm addicted to the first pick. Okay, so Hank, you have no idea what you're gonna do. Would you like a quarterback?
Starting point is 01:10:45 I'd like Caleb Williams. Oh, interesting. Well, you have no idea what you're gonna do. Would you like a quarterback? I'd like Caleb Williams. Oh, interesting. Well, you could get Caleb Williams. But I don't want to trade up. Oh, well, then you can't get Caleb Williams. But what if you don't take him? We would trade in Washington loves UNC Corps. You don't understand, Hank.
Starting point is 01:11:01 One UNC Corps. Here's something, here's something I'll explain to you that's very simple. If Ryan Poles decides Justin Fields is the guy, I don't understand Hank one UNC question. Here's something, here's something I'll explain to you that's very simple. If Ryan Poles decides Justin Fields is the guy, he will trade the first pick to someone who was going to pick Caleb Williams. If he doesn't have category, I'm new to this draft.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I haven't, I've actually doesn't understand that someone might like, but what does it have that? Last year, that's exactly what happened. The Bears had the number one pick and someone traded into the number one spot to get Bryce Young, which was a mistake. But he doesn't understand the concept
Starting point is 01:11:32 that if the Bears don't take Caleb Williams that they're gonna just take someone else, he thinks that they wouldn't trade. Right. They will trade to someone who wants to take Caleb Williams. So, you're not gonna take Marvin Harrison Jr. with the first overall. Correct.
Starting point is 01:11:47 All right, then I'm down for it. Give me Marvin Harrison Jr. The Titans, the Falcons, the Giants. The Titans, they might, the Falcons, the Giants, the Giants, not Giants. I haven't got a wall draft. The Vikings, the Broncos. Daniel Jones, a bajillion dollar.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I'm giving you all these teams that would possibly trade the number one. The Broncos, the Ra Jones, a bajillion dollar. I'm giving you all these teams that would possibly trade the number one, the Broncos, the Raiders, the Saints could. You could maybe talk the Commanders to do it. The Commanders, like there's so many teams that would trade up to one if they, if the price is right. Again, I'm dumb, I'm stupid, I don't know, football that well. I didn't like the crying thing with Caleb Williams personally.
Starting point is 01:12:24 So like that wouldn't make me want to trade up for him. Mine's a bit... But, I like Jones a little bit. Kyle Long was like, you really want Caleb Williams trust me, so I do trust him, but... So maybe I want Caleb Williams, I gotta talk to Ryan Poles about it. Yeah, I'm good with Marvin Harrison Jr. though. What I would like to do is trade up to the number one spot,
Starting point is 01:12:41 give big cats some assets. I get the number one overall pick, and then I flip that number one overall pick, and I make assets off that asset. I already got compounding assets. I would love nothing more of Ryan Poles besides the correct path is to trade number one pick, to trade it to one of the two of you,
Starting point is 01:12:58 so that I can root against your team next year to then get the number one pick again. But what if that number one pick turned into a multi-time Superbow Bowl winner that you could have had? Then that would be awesome. Yeah, good, good. Could also turn into Bryce Young, which equals another number one pick.
Starting point is 01:13:13 See how that works? It's fun. He really has no idea how the drafts were out. Yeah, you've always taken Northwestern offensive lineman. It's really like, wake me up one day three. It's like who do we create it down? The concept. We drafted a lineman. It's any like, wake me up on day three. It's like who do we create it down? And we drafted alignment. Hank, we drafted Nikhil Harry once.
Starting point is 01:13:28 That was like the most exciting pick in the last 20 years. The concept that Hank doesn't understand that the bears, if they want to go forward, Joseph feels would trade the number one pick to someone who would take kill Williams is so foreign. Yeah. He thinks it will just be like, no, actually, yeah, we'll just, yeah, we'll take Marvin Harrison Jr.,
Starting point is 01:13:43 we have no other option. We'll respect the integrity of the order of the NFL drive. Yeah, yeah, this makes sense. Okay, Bengals of Brown's, all I got is Jake Brown's girlfriend. Or wife. I think it was his wife. It was a great choice on her part to wear the body suit. Yo, listen, Jake Browning, listen to the show, respect.
Starting point is 01:14:01 That's all I got. Respect. Listen, tip of the hat, nice work, Jake. Yeah, very cool, Jake. It's, I mean, listen, the Bengals, the Bengals Browns game was not a enjoyable watch except for that moment where everyone was like, whoa. And she was up in Joe Burrows box. Was in Joe Burrows box. And she looked great. Yeah. She looks like a very, a very good choice for your wife, Jake.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Yeah, girlfriend girlfriend. Girlfriend. Oh, I thought it was wife. Okay. Girlfriend. All right, better, better make that wife, Jake. Go front, girlfriend. Girlfriend. Oh, I thought it was wife. Okay. Girlfriend, all right. Better make that official, Jake. Yeah, I mean, that's a good girlfriend move. Yeah. Her Instagram probably blew up during this game. I'll say that.
Starting point is 01:14:35 What is it? I don't know. I should check, Jake. Someone for you. I'll send it to the group. Yeah, look how you have it made. I just want to see if she, I want to know where she got that outfit. Because it was a cool outfit. Yeah, I would like one myself.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I think my curves would pop in them as well. You can't tell the story of the 2023 NFL season without knowing where she got that outfit. How would you actually think Jake Browning had when he got to the locker? A lot. A lot. Yeah, good for the Bengals, I guess. I don't know. We got to see Jeff Driscoll.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Joe Flacco was sitting on the sideline. The Browns got bigger, bigger fish to fry. It's just so awesome that we've reached the point where Joe Flacco needs to be rested in a week 18 game together for the playoffs. Yeah. Okay. Anything else from this game? I got nothing else from this game. I just sent her Instagram over. So I'm just reviewing that to make sure that's her. Yeah, that looks like her. Yep. I see she got the bodys suit. She's having a great time. Body suit looks good. Also, the fact that she's wearing a JB body suit in Joe Burrow's box, that's kind of cool too. Oh, that is cool. Go for either one of them. Yeah, right. It works for
Starting point is 01:15:38 everything. Should I like this? I feel like I should. I don't respect it. It would be rude for me not to agree. Double to have it. There we go. Agre would be it would be rude for me not to agree double to have it There we go agreed agreed I like the fact that she showed support for our guy Jake right exactly exactly I want to encourage that type of behavior and just I'm a fashion fan. I've never seen that type of outfit. It's incredible. It's incredible. Yeah, okay Let's take a break and then we'll get to the afternoon games Part of my take a sponsor by better help around new years we get obsessed with how to change ourselves instead of just expanding on what we're already doing right.
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Starting point is 01:17:06 The mountains were blue. Were they not Max? So blue. There were so many mountains. There were so many mountains. It was the Himalayas out there. It was incredible. We had a table filled with empty blue mountains
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Starting point is 01:18:11 Was it three years in a row? Yeah, Bucks win the NFC South. Also perfect way for the Panthers to go out where it we've watched too much Panthers football because we have every game on. And then having it's so, so, so hard for them to score points. It's very, very difficult for the Panthers to score points. And then having a touchdown that ended up being a touchback was a perfect ending to the Panther season and ending with zero points. Yeah. If you're a Panthers fan, you go through the stages of grief when you're about
Starting point is 01:18:39 to score a touchdown kind of you start, you start looking for the flags after they get in the open field about 30 yards. And then you start looking for the flags after they get in the open field about 30 yards and then you start looking for defenders that will corner flag them and take them out of balance at like the two yard line and then you won't score after that. And this was the worst where you're diving into the end zone and you lose a ball at about the half yard line. And they actually did score a touchdown
Starting point is 01:18:57 later on in the game that was brought back from flag. It was brought back from the flag. Yeah, so this is just a bummer, bummer of a year for Panthers fans. Yeah, well, they got the first pick. They did get the first pick in the draft, which is going to the bear. Yes. And David Tepper is the war sonarance in the NFL. David Tepper went, let's celebrate the accomplishments.
Starting point is 01:19:17 He went a week without pouring a drink on a opposing fan that we know of. If David Tepper had any bits of smarts, he would have done two for once today in the stadium. Yeah. That'd be nice. And he just stood there and threw the second one at people or just buy him for Jacksonville. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Jacksonville needs beer. Yeah. Jacksonville does need beer. Okay. So we've got the box. We'll get to the box. Eagles match up later on in the week and Max having to go down to Tampa. All right. Packer 17 bears nine.
Starting point is 01:19:48 All I wrote down was I'm sad. Go get the best deal. Okay, so those are my notes. We're on to the draft. Those are my notes. I I was very sad about this. I I thought the bears were going to win this game. I dubbed it my super role.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I said they were going to win this game. Turns out Jordan love is really fucking good. I dubbed it my Super Bowl. I said they were going to win this game. Turns out Jordan love is really fucking good. I've done this speech before. You don't need to hear it again. Life is unfair. The Packers going from Breffar to Aaron Rodgers. Jordan love is just the shining example of how unfair life is. And yeah, Packers are good. Matt LaFour is a great coach. They're in a rebuilding year and they got to the playoffs and the Bears That sucked. I still am very optimistic about the Bears future, but that fucking sucked. You guys saw it I was silent for like an hour and a half after the game
Starting point is 01:20:35 But I'm optimistic about the future that sucked a lot the Bears Cannot beat the Packers. It's impossible for them to beat the Packers. They're gonna have to figure that part out That's gonna be a big point. Yeah, so figure out how to beat the Packers or ten-a-no all time against the the Bears And all the stats to love had the best season that a Bears quarterback would have ever had They're just There's nothing I can do it sucks. I hate I hate I Hate this feeling so we never uh, we've never won pick. We have no more pick. I just, I really, really wanted to win this game.
Starting point is 01:21:09 I wanted to get the Packers out of the playoffs. Now I can't even revel in the Packers losing in the playoffs because there's a rebuilding year for them and they made the playoffs and they did it by beating the Bears in week 18. And just every, it's like time is a flat circle. The Bears cannot beat the Packers. They just can't and it's like time is a flat circle. The bears cannot beat the packers. They just can't and it's just fucking sucks. Everything sucks about it.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And the packers are a good organization and the bears are aspiring to be a good organization and we'll see if they get there. All history shows they will not. So when you pretended to have your organization at the end of this game. Is there any organization? What?
Starting point is 01:21:42 Isn't every organization aspiring to be a good organization? Well, no, there's some organizations that are good organizations. Right, but every bad organization aspires to be good. Yeah, there's been times in the Bears I don't even think are trying to be good. There's actually, have you ever watched Major League Baseball? Well, there's a lot of teams that really don't give a shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:59 The White Sox. Yeah. I had a lot of tweets that came my way after you pretended to be hack big cat Oh, yeah, and most of them were saying hey PFT can you ask big cats since he's hacked his comment on the bearers continuing to suck Oh, I just want to give a voice yeah, no, they because they asked me to ask you that yeah, no, they stay your comment They can't beat the packers. I it's I don't know what to say. They suck. Like we can't beat the packers. We can't.
Starting point is 01:22:27 And the Jordan love is really fucking good. And it's not fair. He was throwing dimes. And I'm, again, I want to be consistent. Hank's, see, this is the problem. Hank's on his phone. He's not listening right now. So when I say this next week,
Starting point is 01:22:39 I was like, you flip flop. He's like, you flip flop. You flip flop. I am very optimistic about the Bears' future. I think that they have the bones for a, like their defense is good. They have all these draft assets, they have all this cap space.
Starting point is 01:22:53 I'm very optimistic about the Bears' future. They played well down the stretch. They have to nail the straf and they have to figure out a way to beat the Packers, because we can't beat the Packers. And that is a problem. And it makes me very sad. And I'm kind of wish I didn't like sports.
Starting point is 01:23:12 So to answer your question, no, I just, I know that there was one particular position that the person that wasn't mentioned in any of that. Max, what? I'm just thinking about how good this is going to add to that montage that we made of you. I feel like I'm staying, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not this is going to add to that montage that we made of you. I feel like I'm staying. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, is down in the dumps. I'm being optimistic. I'm talking about the future guys. Isn't this a haven't mentioned just
Starting point is 01:23:31 feels once? Well, Ryan Poles is going to work on it. Isn't this a good thing that you lost your gateway game? Because how much more crushing would this last have been if you would play out of it? No, no, no, no, this, no, this, you would be, you would be suicide. No, I would, I want, of course, I would, if you said, what I rather have had a chance to play, like this still hurts, it hurts the same. I would have loved to have a chance to play to get in the playoffs in week 18. That would have been incredible. I, I, Ryan Poles gonna figure it out. Okay. All questions. I should do like a forward email out of office. I'm out of office for the next two three months. If you have any issues or any problems, please forward them to Ryan Poles. He will figure it out.
Starting point is 01:24:11 And you trust him completely 100%. He's put us in this spot where I can be optimistic about the bear's future for the first time in a very long time. Like they have everything in front of them. You have to nail this draft. You have to also figure out a way to beat the backers can't beat the backers do you have to win this you have to figure out the strap do you think the quarterback position as it's uh... which they were really constituted is in a position to beat the packers what do you mean there is hank i want to be refused gone they said that he's staying what am i gonna say of course i want to gone the fucking gym gym nants and Tony rollo started blowing Luke Getzy and then
Starting point is 01:24:46 immediately after there was two negative plays, they need new coaching. But what the fuck, I trust Ryan Paul. So if he's like, we're keeping heber flus, guess what? I put myself in a bad spot here. So big cat, my question was, do you think that the quarterback position as it's currently composited is in a position to beat the packers moving forward. Thank you. I appreciate this question, PFT. I am currently out of the office. Okay. All all all issues or concerns. If this is an emergency, please contact Ryan
Starting point is 01:25:17 Poles. He is available. Do you think that will answer all your questions? Could you ask Ryan Poles? If Ryan Poles were here right now, what do you think he will answer all your question could you ask Ryan polls if ryan pulls were here right now what do you think he would say to the fact that uh... getting a younger quarterback earlier on the rookie deal might put your team in overall better position to take on the green bay packers and the Detroit lines mind you moving forward as opposed to paying a quarterback and then you have less money to spend on positions of need you say that's an interesting proposition.
Starting point is 01:25:46 PFT. I would like to talk to my close personal friend, Big Cat and, and discuss this with him. But unfortunately, he's out of office. We're just in a circular pattern. Yeah. I don't know the answer. Wait, Hank has a question. We're not good. Right now we're going to be good. I think Hank, what's your question? I need, we need to figure out, it's like
Starting point is 01:26:05 the fucking, it's like the enigma. We got to crack the code and figure out how to beat the packers. We got to get our best guys on it. Let's get every, every brain we got. We got to figure out a way to beat the packers. Did Tony Romo and Jim Nance announcing the game enhance your experience? No, it made it see what's nevigantly worse. We have breaking moves suck. This is sad breaking news. Oh, no. Arthur Smith is a lot of the pros in the Falcons. That sucks. Moment of silence for Arthur Smith. Damn it. He'll fall on his feet. I think he'll be okay.
Starting point is 01:26:42 He'll be all right. We love Arthur Smith It sucked how that all went down Maybe back to the Titans maybe maybe yeah, maybe back to the Titans Okay, have I answered all the questions? Maybe coach to the commanders maybe coach the commanders. We got FedEx right on the side of her building Have I answered all the questions you've had Hank and PFT as a no Hank had one more Did you forget it Hank remember you raised your hand and everything? I called on a rumble question. Oh, yeah And he was doing he was mimicking Jordan loves throwing patterns and I wanted to fucking throw something through the TV
Starting point is 01:27:18 Just okay. I do one more question. Yeah, yeah, just from it's PFT. Yes, but from a technical standpoint I'm not I'm asking your question. It's a question for me or Ryan Paul? I'm asking your opinion as a football fan. Okay, you watch a lot of football, right? Yeah, I do. But you don't watch college football. I do actually watch a lot of college football as well.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Okay, so technically, from a physical standpoint, right, who do you think is the more complete quarterback? Justin Fields or Caleb Williams? That's as a football fan. That's a great question, PFT. Thanks. I'm gonna have to forward it to Ryan Pol. No, this I have been working. He doesn't have anything to do this.
Starting point is 01:27:49 I'm asking you've watched a lot of college football. Like in a vacuum. In a vacuum. In a vacuum. Yeah, that's a great question. Alright, so I'll say PFT, that's a great question. Thank you. I'm going to have to watch some more tape myself to give a better
Starting point is 01:28:00 picture. Better watch a lot. I have watched a lot, but I would like to see. I would like to interview these guys. But I didn't think you'd watched any of Caleb Williams and then you just said, no, I've actually watched like all of Caleb. Well, I need to really break it down.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Also, last time I talked to Caleb Williams was when I DMed him and I said, hey, come to Madison, we can make some sick T-shirts. So he hasn't responded to me. That was two years ago. Sounds like you really liked the idea of Caleb Williams being on one of your teams. It is an option that we're weighing.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Okay. What about you? We got to beat the Packers. We got to find a way to beat the Packers. We can't beat the Packers. And it fucking bothers me to no end. And I really wish we had won this game and all the future is bright, I think.
Starting point is 01:28:44 If you make the right choice. If you make the right choice. If you make the right choice. It's a, I'll say this, here's a definitive thing. This is the most important offseason for the Chicago Bears as a franchise. They have to make the right choices. Whatever the choices are, they gotta make the right choices. I would lean, kill lips.
Starting point is 01:29:02 What about a 10? Oh, wait, wait, we just got a lean. Lean. That's a lean. But that's you talking at that. That's not Ryan Pulse. That's not that's that's my personal lean. Yeah, but that has nothing to do with. It's not an official play. I have been released in official play. And if the lean turns out to be right, I'll take credit for the lean. Think of the money. I thought of the money. Max. I've thought of the money, but I love
Starting point is 01:29:24 the picks to know and kill Williams cried that one time It's also interesting because you could say that last offseason was the most important decision that you guys had because you could have taken CJ Strauss that was not an option, which you just said not an option what any team would be lucky to have that was not an option They were they were they did have the number one. They were in a transition period We're still trying to figure out was we last offseason Ryan polls got an a plus you got DJ more in the first pick You can't like that was an incredible hall one of the worst trades ever by the pan We get the second pick what would you rather have DJ more and the first pick or CJ shroud? That was not an option at the time
Starting point is 01:30:01 Nope, it wasn't I think it wasn't. We weren't in that mindset. We've since changed mindsets. We're in a growth mindset now. Okay. So what was your mindset then? We were in a when now we were in a rebuild collect assets mindset is rebuild also another word for growth. No, because we didn't rebuild that well we're still rebuilding we're still growing we're
Starting point is 01:30:28 growing boy we got to drink our milk we got to get our eight hours of sleep we're growing okay we're we're we're great eaters we got to we got to grow some more got it what this gonna be a great growth season I think I nailed all the answers I think he'll Williams he's so fucking fun. Good. And he would be he would also just make me excited for a couple more years. Now would you be upset until you get asked that? And then I'd be sad again, but it would have a couple years of being excited. Would you be upset if I traded you the second overall pick for the first overall pick? And then you know, tossed in maybe some second rounders. You promised to take Drake May and we took Caleb Williams with that make you upset.
Starting point is 01:31:07 It might make me a little upset. Caleb Williams never lost the Packers. That's true. So there is that. Yeah. That's a great stat. All right. Draft goes through us. Yep. Draft goes through us.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Hank still doesn't understand that, but Draft goes through us. Okay, next game. Packers are really good, by the way. I know that I'm a sore loser and being a bitch. I don't know what you want to say. Jordan loves really good. The running game looks good too.
Starting point is 01:31:34 AJ Dylan's awesome. And that is what a model organization looks like. When they rebuild, they're still on the playoffs. That's how it's done. They have a great coach. They have a great infrastructure. They figured out the hack to quarterbacks, draft them, sit them, make them good, make them hallfamers, then you set them free and just rain terror on everyone for 15 years. And then they go to the jets. Yeah, and then
Starting point is 01:31:57 they go to the jets. And then they just restart the whole fucking thing and I cannot believe it's restarted again. But here we are. Jordan Love is the real deal. There, I said it. Happy Packers fans. Okay, Giants 27 Eagles 10. Now we switch the focus. Giants short, wait, hold on. I don't think I asked a question yet. Giants 27 Eagles 10.
Starting point is 01:32:23 That is the correct score. Yeah, that's not a question, but that is the correct score. How does that score make you feel? Bad. The answer to that question is bad. Yeah, and with AJ Brown, do you think he's really hurt or do you think he was upset that he fumbled? I think he was hurt, but I think he'll be okay next week.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Are you sure? No, I'm not sure. I'm not a fucking doc. I, oh, I mean, I'm trying not not to curse and get angry during your mom. Is your mom telling you that? No, I'm not. I'm not telling you that.
Starting point is 01:32:54 All right, so let's talk about something like more lighthearted. Jalen hurts middle finger. How does that look? He came back in the game after that. Yeah. And then I think he threw a pick. He came back in the game and then threw a pick and then I think you threw a pick He came back in the game and then and through a pick at well the Cowboys started blowing out so then they
Starting point is 01:33:09 Rest of the starters. Yeah, you guys got whooped Yeah, bad football team you got whoop. I said they were a bad football team last week But what about AJ Brown's speech Nick Sergiani? Yeah, well they got me you know, but There's still a bad football team and And I said, I didn't say that that was, that changed my mind. I said that opened the opportunity to change my mind. God, okay, I got it. So my E-Rate now, yeah, my mind's not changed.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Yeah, correct. What about this quote from Cereonia for the game? We lost five over last six. That doesn't discredit the rest of the season. You are as good as you are. Fuck, I can't even, I don't know. I'm not what I'm saying. The team is bad football team right now. I don't care what they were doing at the first 11 years.
Starting point is 01:33:54 So you are just, you're disagreeing with Nick Sireon. You do discredit the rest of the season. I'm disagreeing with everything Nick Sireon is saying. It is like saying how come no one's talking about all the flights Bill Clinton didn't take on Epstein's joke. Correct. Yeah. What do you think you win this game? It's crazy that the Eagles are in the playoffs. Also shout out all the people who had the Eagles win total over. I think it was 11 and I would have lost my I said they pushed. They were 10 and one and they pushed.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Max was brutal. Max was also saying earlier that he would trade seasons with all of us in a heartbeat. Yeah. Like going to the playoffs, limping into the playoffs, you would rather be in this room. And also Shane's in this room. And Shane has the fourth pick overall.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Fifth. Oh, shit. So yeah, boys are loaded. We were stacked. That's not what I and Max would trade this entire. That's not what I said. What I really we won. What I said is a better year. Anyone in here wanted to trade their pick for a playoff spot for our playoff spot, I would take the pick. I do call him pick. I'm gonna have to get back to you after I talk with Josh Harris. Okay. Ah, Max, can you win this game on Monday night?
Starting point is 01:35:08 The fact that the three point favorites are in sync. Yeah. I guess, as bad as the Eagles played today, the bucks also looked terrible. Yeah, they did. They looked bad. So that's why I guess it kind of makes sense. And we did already go to Tampa on Monday night football and beat the bucks, but that was
Starting point is 01:35:27 a different. Those, those, those Eagles. This is this. Eagles. Well, I mean, they're legitimately the worst team in football. Are you worried that because you've gone to Tampa already this year that they have the tape out on Jalen Hertz scrambling to the right and then throwing it out of bounds? Your favorite play. You kept saying that today.
Starting point is 01:35:47 The number one receiver was 90 year old. That wasn't just this game. He does like you like saying it. Well, you kept it. You kept being like, look at this, look at this. There's no way anyone was open at all as soon as AJ Brown went down. Sounds like Jalen Hertz is a system quarterback. I would love to look at any quarterback in the NFL
Starting point is 01:36:07 if their top three weapons go down. Well, let's see. CJ Stroud had a lot of guys, right? Yeah. Patch from home. Nico Collins. No one. Patrick Holmes lost all his weapons.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Travis Kelsey is number one. He's old. Yeah. Nico Collins wasn't their number one guy at the start. Yes, he was. Tank Del. Tank Del was their number one. It's not the number one at the start of the season. You're right. He's right. He got to their number one. That's he was. Tank. Tank. Tank.
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Starting point is 01:37:11 No, yeah, Mapatrisha transition has gone poorly, but I don't know. You thought you were gonna win this game, and this is a get right before the get right. I did not say that. No, but you needed them too, and they looked like dogs shit. Yeah, no, wait, at no point did I say there,
Starting point is 01:37:28 I pretty sure last week I said that they should be dogs in this game. Yeah. So what about next week? Must win? Nope. Not a must win. Switching.
Starting point is 01:37:38 You're switching it up. This guy made every inconsequential regular season game a must win and he's not making the play. Wow. Well, it's spoiler. This guy made every inconsequential regular season game a must win and he's not making the play. Wow. Well, it's spoiler. Well good news for you, Max. The gauntlet is over.
Starting point is 01:37:49 I mean, the gauntlet. Yeah, the giant. The gauntlet is over. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, man, the thing the Eagles were 10 and one a team that beat the bills. I You guys think that Nick Sierra on it will be fired if they lose it next week. I think he might depends on how they lose That's the one thing I don't think it matters That's the one thing I respect about Philadelphia is they do not tolerate shit. Yeah, I think it depends on how they lose What's a scenario
Starting point is 01:38:23 Miss kick at the end of the game. Like, down how to miss kick. The Eagles were 10 and one. I understand. They're not good. They were 10 and one. He's he's coming off of the calling him a coordinator after coming off of wins against the chiefs and the bills and the dolphins. Look at look at the drafts. That's so sick. One, two, three. Oh, look at that. And I've got nine, no big deal. I'm a back pocket. Nine.
Starting point is 01:38:51 I love that for us guys. Yeah. We're going to be the number one draft podcast in America. Yeah. It's going to be great when you trade Justin Fields at the Patriots for their second round today. What? That would actually be great for the show.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Yeah, that would, yeah, that would, if we got a second for him, that would be great. Yeah, that would yeah, that would if we got a second for him that would be great Yeah, no, I think that's gonna happen. Oh, and then the and then the Patriots go more Chekko and Bellicic check goes to the commanders. Yeah, we're just fucking roll just like I like a whole thing Just share it with everyone else. I'm in next year is gonna be fun. I'm in yeah, uh, those are gonna suck. Okay max I am I am worried about max because I really wanted him to win this game. I want him to win Monday night football.
Starting point is 01:39:30 I want to get him up. It's the box and they're gonna win. It's the fucking buck. I want to crush him. We can't be crushed. For the Cardinals and the Giants. They just beat the Panthers by nine points. But they kick three field goals.
Starting point is 01:39:42 But that game didn't really matter if you won that game. Like the- What do you mean that game didn't matter? Oh, I thought you were talking about the- The problem is, Max, if they lose on Monday night by like 20, we're not gonna get sad, Max. Yeah, he's gonna be like fire, cereal. He's gonna be like, this is a joke of a season. Fuck everyone, I saw this coming for a million miles away.
Starting point is 01:40:02 They need a beat. They need a beat, the box. This is smoke them They're gonna smoke them. I okay, but then we go to we then we need we need no no this is what we need then word We need that we need they need to beat the box and I'm sorry lines fans with the Rams beat the lines and then The Eagles go to the Cowboys. That's what you need that That's what you need. That's best for the show. That's better than that. That was for it. Tell us what Max, Hank and Tiff, all in the big D. There's no way that game would be on Saturday. It could be.
Starting point is 01:40:33 You never know, Max, 50, 50, so. That's the game we have to go. Yeah, I think I might go too. Fuck it. I'll film. Oh, actually, I'm not going to go. What am I saying? But you guys, I'm not going.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I'm not going. No, I'm actually going. Yeah, you and Hank are going to have to go down there. I'm not gonna go one of my say, but you guys I'm not I'm not going. No, I'm actually going Yeah, you and you and Hank are gonna have to go down there I'm not going to be awesome. Yeah Meem's can I just make one request for this trip you guys are gonna make you're gonna bring a good camera But when Max gets in a fight, please just use a cell phone camera so that we can also feel like it's you know the real raw Footage also the Eagles playing on Monday night. There's no way that they would put on True true true true. No, no, no, I'm saying even on Sunday. We have to go. Yeah, no. Yeah Come on. No, yeah, please. Yeah, I think you're Sunday now. I think you probably should go to that I know that's what I'm rooting for now
Starting point is 01:41:21 I want I want the Eagles to go to the Cowboys because Matt can't he physically would not Be able to like be devastated if they lost the Cowboys in the playoffs. Yeah, it would devastate him There's nothing you can say you can't be like I knew we sucked if you played the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs You would be a wreck if you lost that game Yeah, okay, so all right. We got there. Okay. Next game, Cowboys 38, commanders 10, PFT.
Starting point is 01:41:51 This game went about as expected. Showed a little fight in the first quarter, which I was happy to see. And then Ron worked as magic. I was a little bit afraid that they were going to do something stupid like beat the Cowboys. Yep. Now I'm just looking at the second overall pick. And you know what? I, I feel good about the way the season ended because Ron's gone. something stupid like beat the Cowboys. Yep. Now I'm just looking at the second overall pick. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:42:05 I feel good about the way the season ended because Ron's gone. We're moving on. We're changing everything. Everybody that's been around and been a part of my terrible, terrible franchise and sad state of affairs is gonna be gone. New ownership, probably a new name, new head coach,
Starting point is 01:42:22 maybe a new quarterback, second overall pick. I'm just, I'm feeling good about, we've been, we've been in an open relationship with Ron Rivera for the last like two months of the season, where he's known that he's been fired, but we're like awesome. We're gonna talk to people on the side. It's gonna be an open relationship for us,
Starting point is 01:42:38 not for you Ron, but we're, I'm looking forward to the coaching search, more than anything, that's fun. It's feisty. We get to track airplanes. It's plane track in season. I'm gonna be all over that. I've looked at my short list
Starting point is 01:42:52 that I'm supposed to be looking at of coaches. I'm thinking maybe, slow-ic. Maybe we bring back a guy. Maybe the only way to defeat the graphic that gets used against us all the time of former Washington head coaches that were on that 2013 team that now went on to achieve great success everywhere else. Maybe it's to bring one from home.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Yeah. Maybe we bring slow at home. I like that. Or maybe I don't know, we're probably going to give B&M a shot at interviewing for the job. I want a new coach. I want a new coach. We're going to have a new coach. I don't think it's going to be B&M.
Starting point is 01:43:24 He's got just enough stink of the old guard on him. He was around Rivera. He probably picked up too many bad habits. Also, Ron Rivera, great guy, good human being, terrible football coach. I'm glad I, I'm very better human being than coach. So much better. As good of a coach as he is, he's probably infinity times better of a human being than
Starting point is 01:43:43 he is coach. I'm just, I'm very excited for the coaching search. I'm excited about Bella check possibilities. as he is, he's probably infinity times better of a human being than he is. Great. I'm just, I'm very excited for the coaching search. I'm excited about Bella check possibilities. I'm excited about just torturing Hank with that. Yeah. I don't know if I'm totally excited about him being the head coach, but I am very, very, I'm very pumped up to just be like, Hank, look, look who I got.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Yeah. Your guy Bill. I think you're best friend. I would be excited for Bill to break the all time record for coaching wins on my sideline rather than the Hank sideline. I'm just pumped up for an offseason where the sky's the limit. This might be the greatest offseason in part of my take history. It feels like this is going to be this is going to be it for us. We're all going to make moves to just become awesome. Yeah, we're going to have six packs. Yeah, we're in such good shape.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Yeah, diet starts tomorrow. Our team's gonna be awesome. The three of us are probably gonna be in like, over under seven super bowls for the three of us in the next 10 years. What if this, what if it's, I'd say over? It comes like a bizarre world,
Starting point is 01:44:37 not obviously excluding Hank, because he's won super bowls on this podcast, but what if it just became, comes a bizarre world, this off season? It could. It's just switch and it's just like, we're now a podcast of winners. He could, it could very easily become that.
Starting point is 01:44:50 I saw Josh Harris also up in the booth today, and he was wearing a W hat, again, not having the word commanders, so he's jacked at all. Yes, big cat. I got a question for you, P.F.E. I am very excited to say. Your excitement.
Starting point is 01:45:04 I'm very excited. Right very excited to say your excitement. I'm very excited. Right. Because I share your excitement. It's clear we're both very excited. I noticed though you didn't mention the quarterback position. Right. Well, that's what there is, you know, 22 positions on the football field. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:17 But what will you be doing with the quarterback position? We're going to evaluate it just like we evaluate any other position. As far as, would you like to, you could actually ask Ryan polls for some help if I might can I have his number? Yeah, I mean There's help if there's one guy that knows the quarterback position is Ryan polls and I'll be the first tell you I don't watch as much college football as you do big cat. I only watch probably kind of seven or eight hours of college football every weekend Yeah, but I'm not you know, I'm not the expert on Caleb Williams. I'm not the expert on Drake May.
Starting point is 01:45:48 I'm not the expert on Jaden Daniels. I'm not the expert on Michael Pinnix. So I'm going to leave that to the people that know more about the sport. That I do. Smart. But as far as I'm concerned, every position from the top down head coach, all the way to the long snapper,
Starting point is 01:46:03 to the kicker, everyone except for Trustway is competing for position next year. Our follow-up question, if you had a lean, what would your lean be? My lean would be that I'm leaning towards every guy that needs to prove himself next year, shows up and training camp and works their tail off. Okay. So you don't want a new quarterback? I'm not here to say whether or not I want a new quarterback. Sam Hall has certainly done some good things for us this year.
Starting point is 01:46:29 He's done some bad things for us. I'm just saying, Oh, that goes off right now. You have, oh, man, it's not to make a pick. Yeah, one minute left. Wait, where am I picking? Can't remember,
Starting point is 01:46:40 just one number one overall. We don't know who. Can't William's off the board. I'm taking, I'm picking up the phone And I'm making calls I'm seeing if anybody wants to trade up. Oh wait wait. I'm gonna call right now Yeah, it's Hank Lockwood. Hey Hank. This is PFT Sorry, I'm a little bit sleepy. I would just say the night over at my girls place Something to get in bad cell reception because it's at 18 T stadium
Starting point is 01:47:04 I'm just curious if I could move up to the number two pick and offer you every first-round pick for the next three years yeah yeah absolutely and i thought that's not a deal and so i think you're on the clock marvin hairs and jr michael pennics what you're taking both of you you get a two for one yeah oh okay you really don't know the thing i think i thought Michael Penix. You're taking both of them? You get a two for one? Yeah. Oh, okay. You really don't know the draft. Hank just thought that he traded up
Starting point is 01:47:29 and didn't give you his third. Oh, and he still has his head. Yeah. Holy shit. That's how the draft is done. He doesn't know how the draft is done. I think I just got drafted by Hank. Okay, but you want a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:47:40 I think we should kick the tires on a quarterback. Yeah. And listen, let's say I'm gonna compete. Sam Hell had some very good parts of the season. I'm just gonna go with the party line that Sam out was injured. Yeah. He was hurt.
Starting point is 01:47:52 He got knocked around a lot. I'm not gonna forget the moments of joy that Sam brought me this year. The soupie. Well, you got to, we also got to say, in this is all three of us, we have to just say that, you know, it's gonna be smoke screen season soon
Starting point is 01:48:06 We can't give away what we want to do. It's true So we have to just make sure that everyone's confused as we are I'm gonna wait until all the facts come out on all the players find out whose mom was a prostitute Mm-hmm how they did on the S2 condition test cat or dog cat or dog Maybe see if anyone want to work out as wide receiver and then I'm going to make the decision based on that information. Right now, you're asking me to make a decision based on incomplete information. Yeah, I love that for you. But yeah, I would like to have you either Caleb or Drake.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Yeah, okay, so there you go, you have our leans. I'm leaning either Caleb Williams or Drake man. Well, I'm leaning Caleb, so you'd have to lean Drake man. Unless you lean away, Unless you trade your pick. Right. To me. Right. In which case, in which case I might be,
Starting point is 01:48:48 I might start to lean Caleb. Or you'd have Marvin Harrison Jr. Might judge the sales. You did not happen to just shut up about that. It's an option. I'll just say it. I want Drake May. I want Drake May.
Starting point is 01:48:58 I want Caleb Williams. But if we moved up to number one, I might need Caleb Williams. And the three slot. Okay, well, you're not gonna get him. That's not happening. That's a three slot. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:49:07 No, and you never know big guy. He just said he wants Drake May. Because you, I want Caleb Williams. I have the one pick. If Big Cat takes Marvin Harrison with the number one overall pick, like you have, then Hank thinks that I'm gonna take Drake May with the second. Right. And then Caleb's gonna fall to him.
Starting point is 01:49:21 He just can't. But, but wait, Hank, I'm confused. Don't the Patriots wouldn't they take calls and then load up with a haul and trade back? Nah, you need a quarterback. You need a franchise quarterback. I'm very excited for this to become a draft podcast. Yes, we're gonna break down so much.
Starting point is 01:49:37 I'm also very excited for us. I'm gonna take Caleb Williams, Drake May and Hank to not have a quarterback and be like, how did this happen? Yeah, I don't understand. We had the number three pick. Uh, okay. Uh, Cowboys, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:49 They now get the two seeds. So they're going to have at least two games at home if they win. So we won't find out like the Cowboys are live because they could easily just, you know, they play if they get to the energy championship game against 49ers, all they got to do is win one game. So who they play in the second round. They would potentially play the depends if there's recedes or not. Lions, it's all home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would I would like to see that. Yeah. That'd be a fun game. Cowboys Lions. Yep. Redo it. Induck Jimmy Johnson with the Ring of Honor again. Yeah. Have the same rafts. Or like kick them out before the game and then bring them back in.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Yeah. Okay. Rams-Niders will just wrap up real quick. Pukin'akuah 105 receptions, 1,486 yards, rookie record on both accounts and credible season. Also, this game was fun because it was a week 18 game with two playoff teams and Carson Wences was playing Sam Darnelt. Yep. Who would have thought? Pretty incredible. And they ran Carson Wentz into the ground. 17 times. They gave him the ball on 17. I think 17
Starting point is 01:50:52 design cares for the most. Yeah. A couple of scrambles, but I would say he probably had like 13 or 14 running plays. Yeah. I think they were just trying to get him injured. Yeah. I think like Vaze already sick of his shit. Yeah. I think so too. And we also had a great great all-time Carson Wentz play too where he was getting sacked and he was falling onto his ass and he tried to throw the ball back. He like he passed it backwards, but then his ass was too big. Yeah, so his ass was on the ground on a fourth down. Yeah, it was, but yeah, that was a fun fun game to watch Carson Wentz for Sam Donald and week 18 to play off teams. Yep. It was a vanilla off.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Like the offense is both teams were running. They were saying we don't want, we don't want to show you anything that we're actually going to use. Yeah, because we might play again. We're going to run a hilariously bad offense intentionally. Right. Because if the Rams win, they'll, they'll go, or most likely go back to San Francisco. Yep.
Starting point is 01:51:41 And, uh, yeah, I mean, the Rams are dangerous. I'm going to keep saying it Rams are dangerous. Officially dangerous. Isn't it crazy how the NFC playoffs are just it we all year the beginning of the year is like who the hells are gonna come out of the AFC? NFC feels like they have some really good teams that all could get hot. And that's including like that's one through seven minus five. Now I would say the the Eagles could get hot. They could. The Eagles, they were in the Super Bowl last year.
Starting point is 01:52:07 One through seven minus four and five, I, I, I could see any of those teams being in the NFC championship. Those Eagles, if they can figure out a way to transform back into those Eagles that we saw earlier this year. That's true. Those Eagles could win the NFC.
Starting point is 01:52:19 And the box won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Yeah, you could see the Packers winning at Dallas and San Francisco? Not San Francisco, but I could, I could definitely see them being ago. Yeah. You could see the Packers winning at Dallas and San Francisco? Not San Francisco, but I could definitely see them beating Dallas. Yeah. The Niners are the Packers. The Niners are to the Packers
Starting point is 01:52:32 with the Packers are to the Bears. So like the Niners are like kind of, they're like my protector. They're the team that make sure that I can go to sleep at night. They're the meme. Make the meme for me memes. I'm sleeping at night and the Niners are sitting there taking all the arrows from the Packers. Got it. Okay. Raiders, Broncos, Antonio, Pierre should be the head coach. That's
Starting point is 01:52:55 all I got. I have a feeling that he's not because they've had every opportunity to say that he is crazy. And then after the game today, Mark Davis was like, yeah, we're excited about what he's done over the course of the last month or so. I have a feeling the Raiders are gonna screw this up and they're gonna go out there and hire, probably a re-tread coach, probably someone who's been fired
Starting point is 01:53:15 maybe over under 1.5 times before, and they're gonna screw it up and it's gonna be sad and everyone's gonna say, well, we had her coach and you let him get away again. Yeah, which would be very stupid. Yep, very, very, very, very, very stupid. But yeah, Antonio Pierce should be the head coach. Broncos have to... Broncos, I actually think like, because Sean Peyton is restless and
Starting point is 01:53:39 they've taken shots, they've fucked up, I wouldn't be shocked to Broncos because I don't think they have to give their pick to the Seahawks anymore right I believe they was protected but no no I think that they're done with that they don't do protected picks I think it was a first last the year before and a first last year tank of thought has them picking 12 right so I could see the Seahaw or the Broncos just being like fuck it we got to get kill Williams straight up just trading a bunch of shit that might be your bitch. Yeah, they might be our bitch All right Seahawks cardinals cardinals just they were scrappy to the bitter end Kyle Murray like that's the one thing about the Cardinals Cardinals don't need a quarterback. Yeah, Kyle Murray's fun
Starting point is 01:54:20 James Conner is so much fun to watch he runs so Upright, he's been Pacheco. He's fun. James Conner is so much fun to watch. He runs so upright. He's been Pacheco. He's so tall. Yeah. Well, he also stands out compared to every other skill position player that the Cardinals have. Yeah. But yeah, the the Seahawks, they're a team that's going to have a shitload of questions because they feel like they have to figure out the quarterback position. It feels like they also have to maybe like Pete Carroll. I don't I wouldn't get rid of Pete Carroll, but he's 72 and now you're a couple years like kind of going in the same spot. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:54:50 I don't know. Can you see them? I don't like, hey Pete, do you want to retire? I don't think they're gonna move on from Pete. I think I don't know what kind of gum Pete Carroll choose, but it keeps him looking 20 years younger than he actually is. I don't think they're gonna move on from Pete Carroll. I think they're gonna sit down and be like, Pete Carroll, what is your plan when are you going to retire? So here's a fun stat that's from Field Yates. Geno Smith this year through seven go ahead touchdown passes in the fourth quarter and over time the most by any player in a single season in NFL history. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:55:17 he led the league and in game winning drives. Now, I don't want to be a stickler here, but that also in order to set that record, your team also has to fall behind in the Correct set it. Okay. Just wanted to make sure that we're looking at both sides of that correct. All right last wait. Hank's trending right now. Oh Yeah, let's see what they're saying Oh, dude Hank go Hank go to Dallas Hank you should go Everyone's saying, Hank, Hank, Hank, Hank. Hank, Hank, Hank.
Starting point is 01:55:48 You should do it, Hank. I think Hank should go this week. Max just wants to go to Dallas. I'm down to go though. You should go this week. But the podcast, maybe, I guess the people will vote for you to go, because we got a bunch of dogs at ride. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:56:02 We do. We do have some dogs. We have some dogs, We have some dogs. Our listeners are dogs that were like, yeah, our boy Hank, he's got to go to Dallas. We could zoom him in. Yeah, we could zoom you in. Actually, you know what? Go to Dallas.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Fuck it. For real? Yeah. Go to Dallas. We'll zoom you in. As long as you can figure out how to zoom properly in on Sunday night. He's got a mic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:23 You take a mic. Actually, take a mic this time. Hank, fun fact, we were always planning on me and PFC just doing solo pods, but I did hit him up and he was like, I didn't bring a mic. Yeah. If you can find a place to stay, you can go. All right, fine.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Okay, done. Hank's going to Dallas, but we also need someone to go with you to videotape or you're gonna videotape You to POV. Is this a work trip or a personal trip? videotape what? Oh come on everything just like I can I can We'll talk offline. Okay. All right. All right. Also from field yades timeline the feels like temperature for Saturday night and Kansas City Is gonna be negative 10.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Yeah boys, winter's coming. Yeah, we got this, I saw this like a scary graphic that was like this, basically Canada has just been holding all the cold air and they're about to release it on us. Polar vortex. Yeah, they're about to just be like, here's all the cold air. Suckers.
Starting point is 01:57:20 That's fucked up. Yeah, it was like, what the hell's this? All the fucking cold air? I thought they had all those fires. Yeah, they're just getting Give us all the cold air next week the end of next week. God damn it Canada. Um, good thing we work in recess. Sorry. That's a one nice thing It's like all right. I could take a cold air. I'll just play fucking hoops with the boys Okay, last game chief chargers playing Gabbert. That's all I got Yeah, I didn't really watch much of this game at all that no one wanted to win this game
Starting point is 01:57:44 Nope, so congratulations to the team that did. Which was the chiefs. It was the chiefs by a point. I'm actually happy to chiefs one because it just will look better on the graphic. Oh, for their overall record. Yeah. When when we're watching the matchups in the playoffs, you know, I think 10 wins, they got 10 wins, they get to 11. 11. So yeah, it does look like they're, if they only had 10 wins, it would look wrong that they had a home playoff game. Correct. Yeah. So I was like, oh, cool. They got 11 wins. Good. Uh, okay. Let's do two things. We got to who's back the week. But before we do that, I got the rowback question for you guys, our H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase.
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Starting point is 01:58:56 I think Michigan is. I think only because Jim Harbaugh is biohacking. He's figured out how to hack sleep. Oh, I don't know if you saw this quote today. No. Jim Harbaugh is biohacking. He's figured out how to hack sleep. Oh. And if you saw this quote today, but they were asking about getting a good night's sleep before the game for him and his players. He said, two nights before is the sleep that you play on.
Starting point is 01:59:15 I have no scientific evidence to present to you on that. I just know when I play it and sometimes when I coached, sometimes the night before the game, I didn't really sleep great. So I've convinced myself that if I get a good night's sleep, the night before the night before a game, it's a great night of sleep. That actually is true. Is it?
Starting point is 01:59:31 I think so. So maybe marathon runners do this, because I've seen some people in the distance running community be like, he's actually not wrong about this. Yeah, and his brother did biohacking this year. I'd the Ravens hired like a sleep analyst for their London trip. Okay. So I think the Harbaws are a sleep analyst for their London trip. Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:45 So I think the Harbaws are into this now. I like it. Which is kind of actually late for them because I feel like any competitive advantage they'll take. I think that biohacking is one thing. I tweeted this out but I'd stand by it. I would pay probably $10,000 for a two-day seminar by Jim Harbaw on biohacking. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:03 The different ways that he's figured to make your body improve. Yeah, milk and not eating chickens, but then later on, yes eating chickens. Because you bought chickens and they're industrious. I, so I unfortunately do think that Michigan's gonna win, which I will immediately spend and say the big 10s back. But the one thing that I keep going back to is Michigan has looked great all year. They have not played a good quarterback all year.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Like if you actually look at their schedule, Michael Panics is so much better than every quarter right they've played. And I'm, you know, Aller for Penn State, Calmwell Court, you can actually make the argument that probably the best quarter right they played is two is younger brother at Maryland.
Starting point is 02:00:45 So like they just haven't like Jail Milrose, a good football player, but he's not Michael Pentax in terms of passing the ball. So that part is still like it's one of those cool wrinkles in college football where you can go a whole season playing in your division or in your conference. And now you're playing a quarterback, they have not seen a quarterback like Michael Pentax. Yeah, also Michigan's defense, their defensive backs are really good though. No, they are, but so, but again,
Starting point is 02:01:11 they haven't played it, but are they good because right haven't played a good quarterback? Right, I think that their defensive backs are definitely better than Texas's defensive backs. A great way better. Way better. And again, I think Michigan's defense very, very good.
Starting point is 02:01:23 I'm just saying that's a fun question mark going into this game that Michael Pentax is different than every other quarterback they have faced because he's really, really good in playing really, really good football. The craziest status, Michael Pentax has been sacked. He's played 14 games. He's been sacked 12 times. Yeah, it's wild. Their offensive line is very, very good. And he does a good job of getting rid of the ball. I do think Michigan's defense is their, their edge rushers are better than Texas. You saw that in that Texas game. It felt like Texas was getting a lot of pressure at the middle, but they weren't getting home on the edge. So I I don't know. It's a very it's a very awesome game because it's also like a style who can who can get the game to play their style? Because if Michigan can just ground and pound
Starting point is 02:02:05 and control the clock, they'll win an ugly way and it will work. And in Washington, it would just be behind all game, like trying to make up ground and get the ball back. But if Washington can somehow get them into the like TCU game last year, a shootout, then Washington's like as live as live could be. Okay, so what has to happen in order for people to say to Michigan you guys are a good team without the cheating? I mean, it hasn't happened yet.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Yeah, if they win this national title, you can't, you can't take anything away. You can't take it away. No, because they stopped cheating in what before the Penn State game. Yeah, before the Purdue game, I believe. That's when they stopped being allowed to cheat. Correct.
Starting point is 02:02:42 And it would also just be great theater to have Harball win a national championship. Yeah, and just to just unload on cheat. Correct. And it would also just be great theater to have Harbaugh win a national championship. Yeah. And just to just unload on everybody. Correct. I will have him back on the show. I loved him Harbaugh. I wish he was the coach of the Bears.
Starting point is 02:02:54 And if he wins, he's probably going to go to the NFL. Yeah. And I think he's probably going to go to the Chargers. And most likely. And I wish it was the Bears instead. Maybe the commanders. Maybe the commanders. So what's your official pick? I'm taking the over by the way. And I wish it was the bears instead maybe the commanders maybe the commanders
Starting point is 02:03:10 So what's your official pick? I'm taking the over by the way and I would lean I don't have an official pick I'm I'm leaning towards betting Washington in the points. Yeah, but I think Michigan's gonna win. Yeah What do you guys got anything? I have a future on Washington, so not not for a lot, but I'm gonna ride with them. Why don't you do that? A couple weeks ago, to go. Oh. Oh. Before the Pac-Wall championship game. Got it.
Starting point is 02:03:31 I also want Spencer to be happy. Yeah. He's going to the Ganser. This is actually a great year if you're a Washington fan. It's just incredible. You probably never thought that playing for a national championship at this time in this era would be possible. Yeah. And now everything turned around for you
Starting point is 02:03:47 and it's just been magical. I like, I know a lot of Washington fans and I like their mascot. I like Dubs. He's a very good dog. They had him dressed in the sunglasses after the game. I like, my heart is putting me on Washington but my, my testicles are saying Michigan.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Yeah. I, I wonder too if Dylan Johnson's going to play because he said he's going to play. The running back, we got hurt in the last play against Texas. He's very good at blocking. So that will be a very big loss for them if he doesn't play. He said he's going to play though, but he said the injury wasn't as bad. He also like couldn't walk off the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:23 So maybe he's just gutting it out Play Corms gonna score maybe twice That's another thing. I think it's like his his his like minus two-fifth. It's crazy But he's if you want to parlay it with something he's going to score it's like McCaffrey levels. He's going to score a touchdown Okay, do you guys have any picks do you have a pick 31 27 Michigan? Oh that'd be Washington covering the spread also because of the Ravens earning a buy week John Harboh is going to the game. Yeah, yeah, I love that other Ravens members. Yeah love that Max. I love Washington So that's people from Washington. Congratulations. Hail to them. I have I have yeah, can we put that on the next Soundboard? Yeah, I have a large wager on Washington. Oh man.
Starting point is 02:05:05 And one last step. Funny. Oh man. Okay, well, we'll stream it. So we're gonna tune into the stream. All right, let's finish up the show. The lines have moved again. Kansas City minus three and a half.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Yeah, that's first firing up. The bills are up to nine and a half point favorite. So we were right. We were right. So we were right. We were so right. We know ball. We absolutely know ball. I think that yeah
Starting point is 02:05:26 I think that that I think the buyback will probably be like four and a half Four for the dolphins. So I was a little off on that But the the bills are gonna be nine and a half ten point favorites. By kickoff. Yep. Uh Okay, who's back the weekend? Um, who's back the weekend's Max Homa. Oh, yeah Sorry, I just I had it pulled up and I saw I was searching Who's back the week Hank? Who's back the week is Max Homa. Oh, yeah. Sorry, I just, I had it pulled up and I saw I was searching. I can say it right now, Hank. The trending, you got my, who's back too?
Starting point is 02:05:52 Okay, we do this a lot. We do. So he hit a drive, 477 yards. Longest drive on the PGA tour in the shot link era. Pretty crazy. So that's like ever. That's probably the longest drive of all time. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:06:08 Was it downhill in the wind? It was. Okay. But still, they've like, that's not on that course before. I never saw it. I never saw it. And was he being sarcastic with his tweet then?
Starting point is 02:06:17 Yeah, he was very sarcastic. I don't think so. I just saw the tweet so I couldn't tell. He was max being sarcastic. Yeah, max usually sarcastic. He said, then that's also a very humble guy. If you look up the longest like in years and years and years and years from now, there'll be little kids that look up, you know, they'll pull up the book. The longest
Starting point is 02:06:35 drives in the shot link era. And they'll open it up. And on the first page, it will say Max Homa number one, 77. It's not going to say downhill. It's not going to say. I'm a bunch of majors. of majors just gonna say Max home a top of the list longest drive that guy must be a fucking tank Yeah, right up champion. I'm gonna say right now Max Max is gonna win a major this year. I think so I think I'm looking at his timeline right he said it was uphill into the wind with no role. Yeah, that's the Jake lost the double sarcasm. Yeah. All right. So Max is the best driver in the world. Yeah, longest driver. Longest driver. He's on the powerful. He's the most powerful man on the PGA tour. Tiger Woods could never drive
Starting point is 02:07:16 that far. Wow. Getting into an accident. In fact, okay. Good. Who's back? Boys. Yeah. That was also my who's back. So I'll just say my other who's back is plane tracking season. I got my boys working overtime on the coaching search plane tracks. Very excited to see where all the private jets are going, figure out the interviews. It's just a great time.
Starting point is 02:07:36 It's a great time to be me. Yeah. I'm pumped up for a fresh start. Turn the page. I want a new coach. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I'm gonna do a new coach, probably a new quarterback, have a new owner, new name. We're going to get a new stadium. I want all those. The old me is that there's also a possibility we just
Starting point is 02:07:52 hired Joe Gibbs again. That would rule. Bring it back for the third time. Steve Spurrier. Yeah. No, no, no. The best thing about Steve Spurrier was when he got hired to be the head coach, he was meeting with draft picks, right? And he was like, how do you all feel about practicing on Fridays? Like, well, you know, if our coach tells us to practice, we'll practice. He goes, okay, because we're not going to practice on Fridays here. Friday's I'm going to go play golf. So the comment or the redskins just didn't practice on Fridays.
Starting point is 02:08:15 I was like, it's South Carolina when he had the, he had a pitching range right next to the practice field so he could pitch while he's watching the team practice. Yeah, pretty great. I think he asked every draft pick, do you play golf? Okay, good. you had a pitching range right next to the practice field. So you could pitch while he's watching the team practice. Yeah, pretty great. I think he asked every draft pick, do you play golf? Okay, good, because we're gonna play on Fridays.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Yeah, yeah. All right, my who's back is the Bass Pro Shop. Went very viral this weekend. A gentleman jumped into the Bass Pro Shop tank. And let's just say for all the women out there, I know you're wondering, yes, that he actually was probably above average. He, that was a man.
Starting point is 02:08:50 That was a man. His penis was camouflage in Bass Pro Shop. It was car hard everywhere. Real true. A button, a button dick. It was in any, non-dit-aclit dick. Yeah, dick. That was tough.
Starting point is 02:09:03 I felt bad for our boy there. I don't know how you can be in the bass pro shop and not be a rouse. Yeah. The picture too of him getting handcuffed and taken away was even worse somehow because like the video of him in the water with the button dick, you're like,
Starting point is 02:09:20 oh, well, that's an illusion. We might not be able to see everything and then his penis came back out not far but it came back out and they're like, oh, well, that's an illusion. We might not be able to see everything. And then his penis came back out Not far but it came back out and they're like, oh, no, that is What's going on if you're that guy you have to have well, I guess what I respect about him is the fact that he was so comfortable in his own body Yeah, he wasn't even trying to fluff up. He wasn't trying to like chub it. He wasn't trying to move it around Maybe pop the head out a little bit. It's probably a adrenaline. It's probably a adrenaline. He, that also might be him like fully engorge too.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Right. He, maybe he was having a good dick guys. Right. And he was like, you know what? I've never seen my penis before. The fact that I can see the head of it, I need to take all my clothes off and get on camera. It might have also been, uh, you know, kind of a fight or flight situation.
Starting point is 02:10:03 If you jump into water naked, you're like, I don't want any fish to bite my dick. So I'm going to make sure my dick disappears. Yeah, it could be mistaken for bait. Yeah. So it's gone. Yeah. Yeah. I love that guy though.
Starting point is 02:10:17 Yeah, that guy ruled. That guy ruled the whole thing. It's also what it was like, it was like a button on a pico. If a guy's handcuffed and panceless. It's just a bad, bad look. It sucks. It's got a sucks so bad. You can't give him a towel. Yeah, they got shirts right there.
Starting point is 02:10:30 They got shorts. They got pants. Yeah, it's hook him up. Tough look. All right, Jake finishes off. My who's back of the week is Dremond Green. Oh, he has been reinstated. Great.
Starting point is 02:10:41 After a 12 game suspension that was initially indefinite. And he'll be back in game action soon enough. I predicted Dremond has learned his lesson. Yeah, he won't do this again. I think that Dremond had a brief mental air, a brief moment where he blacked out a little bit, a heated gaming moment. And he will not be making that mistake again.
Starting point is 02:11:01 Dremond's a new man. So he was undergoing counseling for several weeks and almost wasn't progressing progress meetings and the parties are expected to continue will not be making that mistake again. Dremont's a new man. Yeah, he was undergoing counseling for several weeks and all of that work. Sure, that worked. Sure, that worked. Sure, that worked. Sure, that worked. Sure, that worked.
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Starting point is 02:11:33 Sure, like people will be like, oh, well, we hope he's okay. No, I he just he just dick that being said His reaction and how he's just like throwing punches anytime he's minorly inconvenienced in a professional basketball game, there probably is something that he needs to work on. Yeah, of course. There's definitely like a rage issue when you read out like that and you just decide to start swinging wildly at people. But he was the one guy who like when people like, well, you know, he's going through some of his like, well, he also just could just stop punching people.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Yeah, it's him and John Marant. Yeah. How do we get past our issues? Well, stop showing guns on a live stream and then stop punching people. He, someone wrote a deep dive, I gotta fucking find it cause it'll be very funny to read on here, but they were like,
Starting point is 02:12:14 Jermon Green has a type and he only punches like Euros. Yeah. He's only punching Euros, which, so all the Euros, Jordan Poole. Yeah, Jordan Poole and practice. Oh yeah, Jordan Poole. Oh, yeah, Jordan pool.
Starting point is 02:12:25 Yeah, yeah, but that was practice. Practice and also Jordan pool kind of egg tomorrow. He was literally practicing to punch a euro. She's Jordan pools plus minus. What is it? It's the lowest in the league. It's the last minus two 50. He's the best for him.
Starting point is 02:12:37 He's never seen a shot. He couldn't hit. Yeah, they asked, they asked Steve Kerr about it when they, when the Wizards play the Warriors. He's like, he's a success story. Look how much money he's made. Yeah. Jordan Pool is such a detriment to have on your team that Steve Kerr was like, yeah, Dreymon kind of, he's in the right way to punch it. Yeah. I empathize with that.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. We got to play a football talk about all week. We'll have some good guests to break it down. We'll obviously talk about the national championship on Wednesday. Let's finish off with some numbers. 40. 18. 71. 3. 20.
Starting point is 02:13:19 99 pug. Love it pug. Also if you're watching on YouTube, we have a new winner's circle. Pug. Love it Pug. Also if you're watching on YouTube we have a new winter circle. She's got five. Check out pictures of Shane went five. Our winners. It's me and Hank. Shirt pick. Oh fifth pick. Alright I'm going 71. And the cat you still have an open invite to join the winter circle. Oh, cry baby Max. Oh by the way congrats to Max for not losing the opening act for Vegas memes. We'll be doing the opening act which I'm a winner. So wait, Max, you finished from what place?
Starting point is 02:13:48 Couldn't, couldn't have picked to a worse comedy. I really don't know what to expect from memes. Or memes he's saying I don't have to stand up. Definitely fans of myself, but. So memes is going to do, I don't know, you might have like a power point presentation. Of memes? Of memes, various memes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:03 Memes through, you know what you should do. You should teach a history lesson using just memes throughout history. I actually said that Max outside record point. History of it. I like that. Also Max cheated because he took the over in the Raven Steelers
Starting point is 02:14:18 and then complained about it to a point where he did have the over, right? The graphics had yet the over. Also that extra holiday pick that Hank wanted kind of fucked me. Oh, yeah, it would have been Max. It was the holidays. Oh, damn. Damn.
Starting point is 02:14:30 Damn. I saw Max taking the holidays. Max, there was an incorrect graphic and we just like on the text chain just basically just got under Max's skin for like an hour and a Saturday and I walked in this morning and I was like, do you, is there ever a point of you where you're like, I know what they're doing, I can just not pay attention. He's like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:50 I can't help myself. Yeah. You guys are very good at getting under my skin and I know that you're doing it, but I still have to fight back. What is that picture, Jake? Right here. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:03 It's all of my score, Gommi's in a club.. Oh my I also print out individuals behind me. Oh my God. I did a CVS run got the lottery ball winners by the That's so mean. I did even notice it till right now. Yeah, you double up. What's your favorite score gommie Jake? Next one. Yeah, oh wait you have one framed. Yeah, this is frame. All the pictures on the wall and the collage in the collage on the desk. So you got so perfectly sure you've done happy for you. I think everywhere. It has to be the 70 to 20 for dolphins. Yeah. So you made that that yourself. Oh, yeah, I made the collage. Did you gift it to yourself? Did you wrap it? No, I just hung it up for a WL. You should have
Starting point is 02:15:43 wrapped it and then unwrapped it. And like, look at this, someone got me. Oh my score got me. All right, everyone's got their numbers in? Yeah, again real quick, 7-1-2-1. 20, 3, 18, 99 bug. 30, thought it was 20. 30! I thought it was 20.
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