Pardon My Take - NFL Week 2, Fastest 2 Minutes, Ravens + Bengals In Trouble? Chiefs Are Inevitable + Bears Lose A SNF Stinker

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music on today's part of my take week two of the NFL. We're going to talk about every game we're going to do fastest two minutes. Some shockers with the Ravens start owing to the Bengals start owing to we're going to talk Sunday Night Football. We just finished watching the whole game.

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Starting point is 00:03:22 Kamara Harris as he scored four times on Sunday. Derek Cardi D had a wet ass pussy and when I say pussy I'm talking about his throwing game as the Saints put that WAP on Bodak Prescott to the tune of 44 points. Hey Teej, you heard this one? You hear about this one? What's up Boom? Tell me about it Boom. They call him Jersey Mike McCarthy because Jerry is going to need a sub as a head coach sooner than later. He's not on a roll, Boom. Saints, co-marchin' 44, Cowboys 19. WAP! WAP!

Starting point is 00:03:54 Up north, where Sam Darnold and the Mono Soda Vikings put the kiss of death on Kyle Shanahan, Justin Thomas Jefferson had so much free room on his 97 yard cutback touchdown it was like the Louisiana Purchase George Skittle said, Taste the rainbow, bitch after scoring a touchdown leaving Harrison Buckner Smith to shake his head in disgust The Vikings went and the Vikings are 2-0 Huh? Huh? Huh? The Vikings? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? The Vikings? Huh? With Sam Darnold? With Sam Darnold?

Starting point is 00:04:26 With Sam Darnold? Huh? Vikings, 23. Huh? Huh? The Niners, 17. In Baltimore, where the Raiders were down in the fourth quarter when Gardner Minchew said go go Bauer Rangers as he hooked up with Brock Bowers in Las Vegas morphed into an explosive

Starting point is 00:04:42 offense. Daniel Carl Sun Tzu said the supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without them realizing you're a real football team. Lamar Jackson had a chance at the end with a whoop and a whoop whoop and a whoop whoop and a fumble and the Ravens, 23. We go up to Raljohn, Maryland as an opening kickoff left the Giants with Gano Kicker to work with. Brian Dable looked like his brain was in outer space, emerging as the worst challenger since

Starting point is 00:05:18 former Washington commander Ronald Reagan's administration. Too soon, Boom. O-rings. That's the sound the rocket made. Austin Siebert and Ernie said seven. Seven is the number of the day, as the new Washington kicker accounted for all 21 points of offense.

Starting point is 00:05:33 Malik, it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, took his sweater and his shoes off and got comfortable in the secondary. But Brian from Family Guy Robinson had that dog in him. Hoo, hoo! Leaving the Giants linebackers feeling very hatey. Commies 21 Giants 18.

Starting point is 00:05:49 And we go to Nashville to our correspondent Memes who did not delete everything off his phone memes. We go to Nashville where it was a wonderful day in Mr. Aaron Rodgers neighborhood. Calvin Cambridge Ridley found a pair of touchdowns and said, make me like Mike while Tony Polaroid picture was an outcast in the second half. Will Levis Favre tried to take advantage with the Johnson being out, but Will McDonald said, I'll take a number three. Sax that is. Bray Lynn Allen was getting there when you masturbate.

Starting point is 00:06:20 Think about my legs going back and forth and running into the endo. Jets 24, Titan 17. Thank you memes. And then we head to New England, the keeper of the lighthouse, Henry Lockwood was on scene. Former keeper of the lighthouse, boom. Yes, and he didn't keep anything. Today the keeper of the lighthouse was Malcolm Butler, who was there to keep the light and lead the Patriots, celebrating the 10 year anniversary of the greatest play in Super

Starting point is 00:06:44 Bowl history. Gino Jaden Smith said, Yeah, I went 33 for 44 with 327 yards and a tutty to DK Matt Kauff. Breaking Moose. But can we talk about the political and economic state of the world right now? Ramadre Lance Stevenson blew through the Seahawks defense into the end zone for 6 to tie the game up in regulation. Jake Mike Myers was asked to kick three field goals and said, yeah baby.

Starting point is 00:07:13 He put in the game winner in overtime. Patriots 20, Seattle Super Seahawks 23. Thanks Hank. Good job Hank. No problem, boom. To the stadium formerly known as Borough Head where a big man got in on the scoring as Wanya Wanya Wanya Fanta. Morris caught a touchdown from Patrick Rahomes to take an early second half lead.

Starting point is 00:07:35 The Bengals used a blue shell finding Andre Yoshiba, Yoshi for short for his second touchdown of the game. But it wouldn't be a Chiefs game if the Zebras didn't get involved as a late DPI led to Taylor Swift's favorite player Harrison I like big buckers and I cannot lie as the Chiefs win a thriller 26 25 it's kind of ironic That she loves Harrison Bucker I'm not gonna say it. It's very ironic, Boombl4. You're absolutely right. Out west to Denver,

Starting point is 00:08:07 where Thibaut Nixmania has yet to set in as the rookie quarterback continued to struggle in his daddy Sean Paton's offense, JD Vance Joseph couldn't stop the Steel-ers as Darnelli Furtado Washington was a man eater after he cooked his defender for a score. There's no Lutz Jamie in Colorado as the Broncos used will to make sure their number wasn't zero Steelers 13 the Broncos 6 Standing on the corner Jamis Winston, Cuyahoga such a fine sight to see on the corner Jamis Winston Cuyahoga such a fine sight to see it's Deshawn my lord heading to Jerome Ford and Jamis running QB sneaks no more up downs he scored a touchdown Deshawn hates PMT, but he loved Com-Town.

Starting point is 00:09:06 Browns, 18. Jaguars, 13. We kind of nailed that one, T. That was good. The harmony sounded good, Boom. Yeah. All right, week two, fastest two minutes, presented by our good friends at Chevy.

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Starting point is 00:10:02 Discover a world of strength and capability all behind the wheel of our favorite truck, the Chevy Silverado. Okay, week two in the books. Let's talk some games, PFT. We had a 10 game slate to start the day and it was crazy. Too many games at once. Every week, I don't know if this is gonna continue

Starting point is 00:10:22 through the regular season, but at least through the first two weeks, at some point, I get lost in football. I feel like I'm just spinning through a vortex, and I get the games. I start making a melange of games. You ever have dreams where you combine seven different things that happened between your work, personal life? I'm out there, and I'm thinking Baker Mayfield is getting sacked by like Josh Allen Hines from the Jaguars at some point.

Starting point is 00:10:47 I'm like, what's going on here? I can't straighten it out. I need to get better. Yeah. We're basically watch these games and when the Tasmanian devil and there's just a cloud of dust and then the witching hour ends are like, wait, what just happened? And actually we'll start with this game because this is the perfect encapsulation of what we're talking about. So I'd say the theme of this week was we had some pretty big upsets

Starting point is 00:11:10 and Raiders 26 Ravens 23 was the biggest in terms of point spread and it also was the biggest in terms of as we were watching all the games the Ravens were up 10 with like 13 minutes left and we all thought oh that game's over and then we looked up and said wait the Raiders are about to win this game and now the Raiders are one and one and the Ravens are oh and two yeah Max Crosby happened Max Crosby happened and then Brock Bowers got unlocked this week. As I was gonna say the Raiders the Raiders I think are the number one team where I don't think they're good but they have really good

Starting point is 00:11:43 players because Gardner Minshew was under Attack all day, but he then also reminded himself that he has Devontae Adams and Brock Bowers who are both very very good and They won a game that I think we all thought was over and and now the Ravens are sitting here Oh and two and you're like what the fuck's going on with them and they have Dallas Buffalo and since he coming up next three weeks. Are we sure that the Ravens are good? They might not be they're also Now they did have a shitload of penalties again. The offensive line is not good for the Ravens right now 10 penalties for 109 yards again. They were undisciplined

Starting point is 00:12:19 Again, they played sloppy and I do think the Ravens are always good for one or two of these games a year where they just they look like they're about to win a game and then you look up and you say what what just happened but it's significant because it's oh and two and this is the first time the Ravens started oh and two since 2015 which is a long time and now you're wondering like what I'll read those games again Dallas at Dallas versus Buffalo at Cincy. Yeah it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. It might have to be my pinky team. I think that they're probably a good pinky team to have because you know that they're going to be in contention. You're going to remember the Rams Lamar fans. It's going to be you versus Stavros. It's going to be you versus Jimmy's seafood. It's going to be a lot of a lot of no love lost in any of those

Starting point is 00:13:00 matchups. Um, shout out the Raiders though. Shout out the Raiders. Tough win. I like that we called the Alexander Madison baby bump. We told you, we told you about that. He's been holding a baby all week. So that's better actually than when you, like a coach tells you walk around holding a football all week so you can fumble. If you're holding a baby, you got three points of contact. You're not dropping that thing.

Starting point is 00:13:19 Yes. Can't hold a baby like a loaf of bread. So Madison got in. I'm also happy for Antonio Pierce because after the worst punt ever last week, I think everyone had the same thought of, are we sure he's head coach material? And then to have this win on the road, eight and a half point underdogs down 10 with 12 minutes left. That's impressive. The Raiders are back to being a salty dog. Also of note, this is the first time since 1980 that for, for everyone

Starting point is 00:13:48 who does survivor leagues, uh, that the, the biggest favorite in week one and the biggest favorite in week two, both lost. Yeah, it's crazy. I got eliminated this week. Yeah. I had Bengals last week against the Patriots and then the Ravens this week against, uh, the Raiders. So everyone's bracket is busted. Yeah, it's bad. It was bad for me. I'm in Matt Jones, Survivor League right now. And I think like half the pool got eliminated in week two. Yeah, so it's gonna win in week. It's okay. But you know, here's the thing is, there are too many leagues that I'm in. Yeah, when it comes to fancy football,

Starting point is 00:14:17 first touchdown score, other fancy football survivor, there's just too many different ways that you have to compete about watching football. Yes, I can't win them all. Yeah, I'm lucky if I win one different ways that you have to compete about watching football. Yes. And I can't win them all. Yeah. I'm lucky if I win one. And it's good to have this one just off the books.

Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. So I don't even have to worry about that's one less text that I have to send on Thursdays every year. Exactly. So yeah, I'm in agreement with you. That is, it does feel like the survivor league is, you don't pay attention to your survivor league picks until like week seven. That's when you have to actually start thinking about it.

Starting point is 00:14:44 I know that there'll be some people like, Hey, I mapped this whole thing out the whole time and I'm really smart about it. Well, that's not us. No, we think about it right before kickoff on Thursday night. Yep. And then say, Oh, who's the biggest spread? Okay, let's use them. And if you did that, you would have been out double. I think that two years in a row, not this year, because obviously I just got balanced this year, but the prior two years I was eliminated by week five for not submitting a pick. Yeah. So that's just, it's honestly good that I got eliminated this early. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:14 I'm happy with that. But yeah, the credit to the Raiders, I'm told that Antonio Piers does have an analytics guy that tells them what to do. And Antonio Piers just said, no, I'm going to go with my gut in week one. It was due scrutiny. It was, it was not do screwed. That'd be a great analytics guy. Just like pick up heavier stuff. We were converting everything to kilograms. Yeah. The, uh, I have a question for you, PFT, um, Derek Henry. So he started very slow. Yep. He was good in the second half. Yep. But is that an issue for the Ravens in the fact that

Starting point is 00:15:44 if you have Derek Henry, the only way that you can effectively use Derek But is that an issue for the Ravens in the fact that if you have Derek Henry, the only way that you can effectively use Derek Henry is that you have to keep running Derek Henry. So you can have moments where you're like, Hey, this isn't working, but we have to go through the wall and running him in order to get the effective Derek Henry. And he's clearly not the same as he was, you know, three or four years, no running back back is he does look better in the Ravens outfit though. Those colors look awesome on Derek Henry. He also had a nasty nasty old school Derek Henry stiff arm that rocked. But is that are you too beholden to Derek Henry when you know that the only way to use

Starting point is 00:16:20 him correctly is you just have to keep going even if it's not working. See I think that's exactly why they got him because the knock against the Ravens last year in the playoffs was they abandoned the run. So by having Derek Henry on her team, it's almost forcing you like, Hey, remember you have to keep running the football because if you don't, there's no use in having Derek Henry. I was just thinking about it because in, in, I think the Ravens are going to end up being a playoff team. Um, that's why I kind of don't't want to make my pinky team. Just a reminder, my pinky team is a team that was has super bowl aspiration starts. Oh, and two, I say,

Starting point is 00:16:48 I'll cut off the tip of my pinky if they win the Superbowl. I'm contrary to popular belief. I think people think that I'm trying to do it to pick a team that could, that I still think can win the Superbowl. I'm doing it because I think this team cannot win the Superbowl. And I think the Ravens could still win the Super Bowl. So that's why like being true to myself, I can't really pick them. But I was thinking about it just because people will call you a coward for that. No, because that the whole thing started with crossing a team off and saying they cannot win the Super Bowl. If I like it, why would I, why would I pick them if I still think they can win the Super Bowl? You won't. Right. You won't do it. I see what's happening here. I'm going to, I'm going to go back to the Derek Henry

Starting point is 00:17:27 talk. Uh, you're not going to do it. The, I was thinking about it because the Titans were their identity was Derek Henry. Yeah. The Ravens have more guys than the Titans did. Yeah. So is there, this is a dumb thought. I might be wrong. I know what you're saying because they have to spread the ball around. They can't rely on just being like Derek Henry focused often right because they've got Lamar Jackson Who's also great at running the football flowers got three flowers Isaiah likely and Mark Andrews They've got good players on offense and their offense has been good Not having to just run the ball down your throat the right time like they do more Interesting stuff with their running game than the Titans did which which was Titans would just, here, Derek Henry, you take it. Tractor

Starting point is 00:18:08 Cito season. Yeah. And he wasn't the problem today because like I said, he did play well in the second half and got it going. It was just a thought. Yeah. No, I don't think it's a terrible thought to have. I think that the Ravens have, they've got a lot of issues, but I wouldn't look too heavily into Derek Henry being a deep problem with the team just yet. Yeah. But he might not be the same Derek Henry that we've seen in the past.

Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah. I think that's fair to say. It just sucks when he starts slow and it's like, I think he had like seven carries for four yards to start the game, but that's kind of how it goes with him. I have a question for you, big cat. Yeah. Is Justin Tucker washed? Yes.

Starting point is 00:18:41 He is. Washed compared to peak Justin Tucker 100%. Yes. He's no longer compared to peak Justin Tucker 100%. Yes, he's no longer Justin Tucker. He's no longer, hey, we have a 50 yard field goal. We're going to make it because we have Justin Tucker. Yeah, he got outkicked today. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:53 This is actually a Tucker Carlson game. There are also like two or three kickers that you could say off the top of your head that are better than him. Harrison Bucker. Aubrey from the Cowboys is better. Yep. McPherson might be. I don't know. Missed an extra point today. Here's some bucker Aubrey from the Cowboys is better. Yep McPherson might be I don't know miss an extra point today. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you're saying Justin Tucker He used to be automatic. This is crazy to say this is an insane statement to make

Starting point is 00:19:16 He used to be automatic from 60 and in yeah, it would and he was never a problem never a problem for him Yeah, and he he did miss what he missed a 50 yarder Yeah, I think it was another bomb today. So don't get me wrong. I would love to have Justin Tell well actually no, I wouldn't my kicker didn't miss a few goals today. Yeah, that's the thing that that sucks for Justin Tucker is that we just compare him to old Justin Tucker. Yeah, so it's not that he sucks. He's still a very good kicker He just we expect him to make every single kick no matter what. Yeah. And now he's missed a few 50 yarders. Like, oh, well, he's kind of washed. Yeah, he's still better than, you know, 90% of the kickers.

Starting point is 00:19:55 This might be a hardball problem. hardball maybe hasn't realized that if he just uses Justin Tucker like a regular kicker, then he's going to be one of the best kickers in the league. Yeah. By the way, we still don't have a team that's lost to Harbor Brothers back to back. That is true. According to our research. And John Harbaugh is now one and one against brothers this year.

Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Bucks, Lions, Bucks 20, Lions 16. That was that was my gutsy win of the week by the Bucks. I like that. Gutsy, gutsy win. Cause that was a Baker Mayfield win.

Starting point is 00:20:27 They had a ton of injuries on defensive back or secondary. They had Vita V went out halfway through the game. They got offensive line issues. They just found a way to win that game. And we'll talk about the lines in a sec, but I want to give props to Baker who I just love watching and rooting for. He got sacked three times in the first quarter by Aidan Hutchinson. Most guys would be like, fuck this,

Starting point is 00:20:48 I'm out. And he was just big play after big play. That QB draw for the go-ahead touchdown. It was the second team since 1970 to win despite being outgained by 200 plus yards and having a minus five sack differential. I don't know how many times that's happened, but that's a that on paper That's a bad game if you get out game by 200 and you have a minus five sack different It's very hard to win those games Yeah Without the other team straight up giving you those games and the Lions did make a couple mistakes But the Bucs you're right about Baker like when he runs with the football we forget that Baker's sneaky elusive

Starting point is 00:21:22 Yes Like not only is he tough not only is he to put his head down and try to run you over, but Baker in the open field, he will make a guy miss every time. Yeah. He's so fun to watch the way. I think it's because he carries the ball with almost a straight arm down at his legs as he's juking you out. A lot of other players will tuck it up and run, but he's got the ball dangling out there

Starting point is 00:21:42 too. He's almost distracting you with it. He gives you the dead dead leg steps around you. And yeah, the Bucs, you called it the gutsy one of the week. Yeah. The gutsy one of the week. I think this might be Todd Bulls signature win. Yeah. Do you want to play off game? You want to play off game.

Starting point is 00:21:58 You want to play off game. But I'm going to give Todd Bulls his signature win this week. Okay. Signature win. This is a signature win for Todd Bulls. We've all been waiting for one. It was like, they shouldn't have won that game. And if you just look at the box score and the Lions were able to move the ball and then they just stalled in the red zone. I think they were one for seven in the red zone. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:12 And the big issue, there were two big issues for the Lions. Jared didn't play well and Dan Campbell cost them. At the end of the first half. He's and I don't even know what was happening at the end of the game when they didn't take any shots to the end zone. Yeah, that was weird too. That was very strange. Dan Campbell half he's and I don't even know what was happening at the end of the game when they Didn't take any shots to the end zone. Yeah, that was weird, too. That's very strange Dan Campbell

Starting point is 00:22:28 I love that he's I think he's so disgusted with himself that he can't say the word I So after the game he said in the press conference, I asked for improvement. I guess he said I there I asked for improvement from last week. We did improve their coach cost them their head coach cost them this one. I like that. He's making himself either a fan or a member of the media. It's like a disassociation of their head coach cost them this. Yeah, I like that a lot. Yeah, I like that a lot. That's that's a really powerful way of taking accountability. That's that's way better than saying we. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's way better than saying we and Dan Campbell did cost him a game. Like it was, he had multiple chat. I mean, he did a classic Dan Campbell where he ended up doing a fake punt out of

Starting point is 00:23:13 the end zone that worked. Uh, but he also punted, I think with like 10, 13 minutes left, uh, from the 41, which was a little weird. I think it was a fourth and seven, but still, I don't know. Dan Campbell was kind of all over the place. I think Dan Campbell is the league leader for the last three seasons of people saying, if that doesn't work out, that's a fireball offense after it worked out. Yeah. You know, somehow it usually works out for Dan, but the end of the first half, they were in complete disarray. They were trying to get the field goal unit onto the field at the same time as the offense was running a play. Yeah. So I think they ended up having like 20 guys on 25 men on the 25. That's slightly too many men on the field at any given time. And yeah, their coach, their coach really sold them short on that

Starting point is 00:23:54 one. Yeah. So Dan Campbell, not a good job there. Well, no, Dan Campbell's fine. It's their head coach, whoever their head coach happened to their head coach. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that up. Yeah. But I guess you can say the Bucs have now beaten two outstanding teams. Yeah, I think I have the Bucs number one in my power rankings right now. Yeah, there you go. So that's good. Commanders in the in the lines and also if you're lines fan, just remind yourself that last year you one week one and then you lost week two. That's a good room lost to the Seahawks at

Starting point is 00:24:21 home. We had to last year. So this has happened before and your team turned out fine and You improved. Yes, because Dan Campbell said you improved It's just that their head coach did that their head coach said it's their head coach screwed that one. Yep Yeah It also this is this is why you can't do the commercials because then people were clowning on the Applebee's commercial after that first half End of first half. Mm-hmm as you just gave it to people. But that's their head coach. That's their head coach.

Starting point is 00:24:45 That's not Dan Campbell. That's their actor. Yeah, that's their actor. That's their actor, who's different from their head coach. Who just plays a coach on TV. Yeah, their actor did a great job. Yeah. Okay, next up I had Saints Cowboys,

Starting point is 00:24:59 Saints 44, Cowboys 19, PFT. Here's my question for you. If we were just going off of two weeks or the Saints, the best team in the NFL. Yes, they are second best. I, they, I think they are the best team in the NFL. If you go off two weeks, I think that the entire NFC South is a lot better than we thought it was going to be. Yeah, I'd agree with that. But the saints are, uh, so their cumulative scores are 91 to 20. They have not had a second where they've been trailing

Starting point is 00:25:29 in the first two games. Their defense is nasty. Derek Carr, 11 year bump, looks awesome. Alvin Kamara looks like old school Alvin Kamara. He had 180 yards and four touchdowns. And their offensive line looked really good today. Yes, they kept them, so not only that, but Derek Carr, first 15 drives of the season, the Saints scored points.

Starting point is 00:25:50 Now they took them out of the game against the Panthers and they punted twice. But the next closest, next best was the 2000 Falcons started their season with seven straight drive scoring points. 15 straight drives scoring points for the Saints. If you had to do a BCS poll, the Saints would be number one. Yeah. I mean, they, they have looked unstoppable and to, and it's not the Panthers that they're playing against. The Cowboys and their defensive line is supposed to be really,

Starting point is 00:26:13 really good. We saw week one that they can play really well. And the big question was going to be for the offensive line. They held up really well today. And so if you add that into what they're doing with their offense with Rashid Shahid and Alvin Kamaraara just getting open all the time. Looking like old school. Old school Alvin Kamara. It's tough to imagine a team that you would put ahead of them besides the Buccaneers.

Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah. Hank, as a Cowboys fan, did you see the... Now I don't really believe it, but it was still funny to think it might be real. Someone tweeted out that a Cowboys fan,. No Barnes tweet out a Cowboys fan Just airdrop this to my entire section if we don't fire Mike McCarthy. I'm beating the fuck out of everybody here Don't think it's real but still kind of funny just to imagine that a Cowboys fan I mean you're a Cowboys fan. That's kind of what you guys get angry about Yeah, I mean I kind of gave up my fandom last year after the playoffs

Starting point is 00:27:04 We talked about it, but I think you gotta have the conversation. Yeah. Well, this was, uh, in a weird way, spin zone for Cowboys fans. Uh, this felt like a playoff loss because usually when the Cowboys get to the playoffs, they have a game where, uh, Dak maybe like on paper isn't like the main problem, but their defense gets bullied. And if you watch the game, you're like, Oh yeah, DAC, he didn't play so, so bad, but he also missed some guys and they they're often stalled in the red zone. Yeah, he didn't play bad. I'll agree with you. But there was one interception that he had that was like, that's what we're waiting for that that that press guy.

Starting point is 00:27:43 And they're often stalled in the red zone, which is exactly what happened last year. And then their defense, which was good last year got bullied against the Packers. And so maybe now you just have this conversation right now about Mike McCarthy. But I guess Jerry Jones already settled this by just turning up the heat. Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna he's all in Jerry Jones is all in right now. He's not gonna get rid of Mike McCarthy. He's settled in with Dak. He's settling with CD. I feel like this is Jerry Jones just nesting. It's

Starting point is 00:28:09 nesting for his imminent demise. Yeah. So he's just like, I want to keep the guys around me that I'm going to have for the rest of my life. We're going to get to know each other. We're going to be a family. So I, yeah, I don't, I don't know if Mike McCarthy is going to go anywhere unless they do something crazy this year. I I've been thinking that he would for the last two seasons, but now I'm falling more into the camp of Jerry Jones. He just wants people that are going to be around. Well, we talked about it in one of our preseason interviews with someone like Jerry Jones, the 90s Jerry Jones. We still think that's the guy. Jerry Jones is like too loyal to

Starting point is 00:28:42 his coaches. He kept Jason Garrett for way too long. Yeah. So I think he's going to probably just keep Mike McCarthy for way too long. Yeah, he probably well some might argue He already has yeah, that's true. I have a fun fact. Did you know that Derek Carr's middle name is literally Dallas? Oh, I didn't yeah, that's awesome. I guess he grew up his his like parents and grandparents were Cowboys. He's DDC He's DDC. That's badass and he looks cool. I think Derek Carr got cool this year. Yeah, he came on PMT. He came on PMT. He scored a touchdown, did a Michael Jackson end zone celebration.

Starting point is 00:29:10 Yep. He like grabbed his crotch, which I never would have imagined that Derek Carr would do. Yeah, kids are watching. Kids are watching at home, Derek. I hope you apologize for that. But yeah, he looks cool. He looks fun to watch.

Starting point is 00:29:21 He's throwing the ball deep. He's, I mean, he's taking away the defense gives him, but he having Rashid Shahid out there when he uncorks one, it looks good. Yeah. It looks exciting. Rashid Shahid is top team to, or top guys name to say. Great name to say. Great name to say. Now, Big Cat, I have a question for you. Yeah. Do you think that the Cowboys are frauds? No, because they, who'd they play week one? Browns? They beat the Browns week one.

Starting point is 00:29:47 No, I don't think they're frauds yet. I think they're to be determined. Okay. Because you have to be, you have to have a good record and win games decisively to be certified. I don't think you can call anyone a fraud week two. I think it needs, you need a little bit of a body of work. You need a month and a half where it's like, oh, we're four and two and the four wins

Starting point is 00:30:06 were by 20 plus and the two losses were against good teams. Yeah, those are the fraud teams. So I don't think they're frauds yet. I just think, I don't know if they're good. I think this loss today might be submitted as evidence down the line for them being frauds. Yeah. So they, I don't think we can call them frauds either, but I do think that this would be a big bulletin point if we reach that point where they're foreign to. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'm happy for Saints fans because it does feel like they've been since Drew Brees kind of just going in circles every year you hear about them being in Cap Hell. They kind of run it back.

Starting point is 00:30:40 Dennis Allen is the most forgettable coach in the NFL. But credit to him, he did hire Clint Kubiak, who's done a really good job through two games. But it feels like the Saints are a fun team. And like I said, their defense is playing nasty, too. So it's not just their offense has been lights out. They've been both sides of the ball. So I'm happy for Saints fan. It's cool to have an identity besides we're gonna let Taysom Hill run through linebackers faces, right? And so that's a nice piece to have right? That's a great piece to have but you don't want that to be your thing as offense Yeah, your only thing. Yeah, and the thing that you have to hope works every single time and then once a year when he gets hurt

Starting point is 00:31:18 You're like, well, this is gonna suck. Yeah now what do we do? Yeah So yeah, I mean good for good for the Saints. Yep. Happy for the Saints All right, you want to go to the next game? Yeah, let's do it Commanders have won commanders are one and one commanders 21 Giants 18. I told you At the end of the game It was actually very mean what you did to the Giants because they had graham gnoe who got hurt on the opening kickoff So the Giants didn't play with a kicker Which I love games when a kicker's injured because you just don't know what's going to happen. And then the

Starting point is 00:31:47 commanders basically went out and said, Hey, you don't have a kicker. We're going to kick seven field goals right in your face. Right in your face. We got all the field goals on our side. Yes. Seven field goals. Now I will say the offense was pretty good today outside of what we did in the red zone, which was just take penalty after penalty until it backed us up a little bit. Then we couldn't actually score touchdown. I'd like to see touchdowns, but in a weird way, I like winning a game like this because it's been so long since we've had a

Starting point is 00:32:11 field goal kicker who's capable of making three field goals in a game, much less four, much less five, six or seven field goals. Yeah. So having a guy that is that competent is a really good thing for our team. And this is a crazy stat. This is actually insane. Austin, see it on me, our kicker right now. Okay, he is our fifth kicker in the year 2024. Your fifth case week two. Oh, yeah, because you you got rid of Cade York, we got rid of Cade York. And this is I count that as a front office win for us. Yes, it's a front office win because we cut Cade York after one game, which we would never do in the past. Right. And we got a guy that can make seven of seven. And I think we also saved on whatever compensation we owed the Browns for making that trade because

Starting point is 00:32:55 we cut them after one game as opposed to two games. Right. So the fact that we were competent enough to address a problem and then bring in a solution to that problem, that's what you want to see out of your front office. Yeah. So I have no problem with how the offense looked today. I thought we played pretty well.

Starting point is 00:33:11 Brian Robinson, he's our first, I think he's our first 100 yard running back in like a season and a half, which is also surprising to say. But he looked good today. He looked really good. Jaden Daniels looked like he was, because Dan Quinn said it in the middle of the week that they were going to try not to run him as much. And it looked like he was doing a better job of like, hey, I'm not going to just run right away.

Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah. And he got the ball downfield better than he did in week one. He looked good as a quarterback. I was very encouraged with how the offense moved the ball for the most part. Our defense still stinks, but that's fine. Our defense is probably going to stink. And that's okay. We benefited very much from the Giants having to run fourth down plays whenever they cross

Starting point is 00:33:53 midfield. Well, it's funny you say it that way because they didn't have to do that. So Brian Dable is going to be under a lot of fire in New York this week because Graham Gineau hurt his hamstring on the opening kickoff. He had a groin injury on Saturday Yeah, so he was already like hey something's a little off The Giants went into this game with 52 guys on the roster could have got a kicker could have gotten a kicker They have a backup kicker They could have could it could have had and they didn't knowing that Graham Ganoe had a groin injury

Starting point is 00:34:24 And they went into this game being like he'll be fine. Got hurt on the opening kickoff. Brian Dable, what the fuck are you doing? That's not great. It's not great at all. I would also say- Florio, by the way, was the one who was on this obviously. I would all, oh. He was all over. He's like, I guess they put Gunnar Olchewski on IR on Thursday, which made it go from 53 to 50. So they could have brought

Starting point is 00:34:46 up could have brought up a kicker. Now, this is crazy. But you know, there's another Michael Floreo that covers the NFL. Stolen Valor. His name is Michael B. Floreo. Oh, like Michael B. Jordan. I think so. That's kind of cool. And memes. How has this guy not made your top Floreos list? His name is literally Floreo. I think it's Michael F. Floreo. Okay, so yeah, it is. It's like that version of the Michael B. Jordan, but yeah, yeah memes How come this guy hasn't even crossed your radar? I've seen him on Twitter one time and then I saw that same clip from Dan Patrick this weekend That guy's very mad that Michael Floreo is also named Michael Floreo. Yeah, wait

Starting point is 00:35:22 Michael F. Floreo is mad that our. Mike Florio is named Mike Florio? No, R. Mike Florio is mad. No, no, no. Big Cat's right. That other guy is also mad that Michael Florio is Michael Florio. Well, fuck the fake Michael Florio. What gives you the right, dude? I would understand if R. Mike Florio was mad about the other Mike Florio. Yeah. But the other Mike Florio being like, that's my name? No, no, no. That's not your name. Change your name, dude. No, it does piss me off. I kind of agree with him.

Starting point is 00:35:47 Like Mike walks around calling himself PFT all the time. Yeah, we gotta stand up for our guy. Yeah, no, I stand with Mike Florio. Yeah, not F. In the Mike Florio versus Mike Florio debate. Yeah, we do not stand with Mike F. Florio. They should do a radio show together called Mike and Mike.

Starting point is 00:36:03 That would be fun. Yeah, it'd be very fun. Florio on Florio. Florio on Florio. That's literally memes hell. Yeah. His constant Florio popping out of the woodwork. Florio interviewing Florio. So Brian Dable, yeah, he deserves a lot of blame for that. He also deserves a lot of blame. He might be the worst challenger coach. Yeah. He's a very bad challenge. He does the what Belichick did a lot in his later days the frustration challenge Where you're not really challenging anything other than you're upset with how the games going you're challenging reality Yeah, you're you're challenging that you basically are a like seven-year-old turning off the

Starting point is 00:36:41 Console you're throwing a we're not playing this game anymore. You're throwing a flag and you're saying, nuh-uh. Yeah. And it's yes, huh? Restart. No, it happened. You're like, hey, let's restart. Ball up top. Restart. Zero, zero. Two bad challenges by Dable today. And Danny Jones didn't play terrible. He didn't play terrible. No, he didn't. I think we told you that on Friday, which is Daniel Jones typically plays better against the commanders. And Malik Neighbors is good. Really good. Yes. So he did have that one drop at the end of the game that kind of cost you but he's not the reason why he lost. No Malik neighbors is good. And I mean if they had a kicker they probably would have won this game. Maybe. I mean they they had they had to go for it on Fort Down. They missed an extra point like they and they didn't get

Starting point is 00:37:21 the two point conversions. So it felt like Brian Dable cost his team the game here by not having a kicker He might have yeah, do you see Jayden Daniels handoff today though? Yeah, it was pretty sick He had the best handoff of the week. It was pretty sick. It was sick He just he stopped froze turn around looked like a dance move. That's awesome. He's so good at hand the ball off He is good at hand in the ball. He's very good at playing quarterback, too. Yeah Max you got anything to say? Did you watch the game? No, I was flying back. Oh, wedding Max. But on another plane. Playing Daniels, that's a win. That's a win. That's a win. One and one. I love bragging about how good my quarterback is at handing the ball off.

Starting point is 00:37:58 It was a great handoff. See, you just told yourself, because you said you didn't watch the game, so you didn't see the handoff. You have no idea it was the handoff. I think it's so happy for you to have to see it. No, it was so sick though. Yeah. Pull it up. Watch the clip. Best handoff I've ever seen.

Starting point is 00:38:17 It's so smooth. I'm so happy for you to have a quarterback that's going to hand it off. Yeah. So am I. No, the best handoff ever was the one... I'll give you second best handoff. The best handoff ever was when... Oh, I guess it wasn't a handoff because when Jared Goff did the fake handoff...

Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. And got sacked... Or no, no, sorry, he handed the ball off and he did it so well that the defensive end sacked him and they're like, that's roughing. He doesn't have the ball right now. I think it's hard to compare those two handoffs because one was he did such a great job of the play action and this was just so cool. No, but it wasn't play action. I was wrong. He did hand it off and he didn't have the ball and he did such a good job of

Starting point is 00:38:55 pretending he had the ball that they sacked him and then called a roughing the pass. Got it. Yeah. That was one of the coolest handoffs ever. Nobody's talking about this handoff. It was so good. Why like it should if it's this sick of a handoff it shouldn't be this hard to find Talking about it. Yeah, okay the all Out and you're gonna be like god damn. Who's the one who brought it up in the gambling? That's true. It was a great handoff I think I would I think how it went down as he shouted it and then no one responded then he shouted it again Yeah, and then everyone's like oh, yeah

Starting point is 00:39:26 I guarantee out of all of the games in the in the one o'clock slate everyone was watching Giants commanders Oh that eyes on it. Yep, great sarcasm there max great That came us go get another plane max. I have another wedding. Yeah, mr. Popular more your friends I got one more one more in the 737 max I got a bye week this week and then I and then I have the finale finish strong rest. Yeah. Yeah. All right Watch the game. Yeah, you want a game PFT one a game. It feels good to be one-in-one Who do you have next week? That's actually a great question that I should know the answer. I know the answer. It's o and two Bengals

Starting point is 00:40:01 So that well, that's oh, of course. Yeah, I'm going to that game. Yeah. I was so lazy. I was going to be angry. I was laser focused on this game. I wasn't looking ahead at all. The Bengals are going to be angry on Monday night. It's a Monday night game. I'm going to be in Cincinnati. Yeah. Get some chili. Um, Hank, you want to talk about your game? Yeah. Seahawks 23 Patriots 20. We almost had Hank almost all in. We were an overtime away from having Hank almost all in mm-hmm we were an overtime away from having Hank almost all in that's how close we were You weren't have been all in but you would have been almost all in and we were almost there If the Patriots had won the Jets have lost I would have been all the way all in all the way all in So you were but but that didn't happen so now where do we stand?

Starting point is 00:40:45 Kind of the same as last week was you're still almost all in I want to beat the Jets We talked about the jet will you be all we'll be back to almost all in oh back to almost all in so you can't Get all in by just beating the Jets. No, okay Got it. You're almost almost all in It's an exciting team to watch. It's way more exciting than I was expecting. Yeah, I Think you should start Drake May. Why? Maybe not this week on a Thursday. Uh, I thought Jacobi played really well. Did he? Yeah, he did. Okay. He was a loser. If he was quick on his feet, I just sat in place. I just sat for you and listen, you always have a stat.

Starting point is 00:41:19 I have a staff for you. Um, Jacobi reset. Let me get his final stat. He was getting the offensive line was the problem. No, your offensive line is not good. So why would you start a rookie QB with a bad offensive line? I got, so here's the thing with Jacobi Berset. He's, he's a good backup quarterback. I don't know if he's a starter. He doesn't really push the ball downfield, so to speak.

Starting point is 00:41:39 Jacobi Berset was 15 for 27, 149 yards, uh, and a touchdown touchdown no interception. He doesn't make mistakes. How many completions and for how many yards did he have to wide receivers, which are usually the guys quarterbacks throw it to. Well, I know how many yards Hunter Henry had. He had a lot. So I'm going to go with seven for 40. Jacobi said had three completions for 19 yards to wide receivers today. That's why I was saying start treatment again, not this week, but Jacobi said is a really good backup if you want and your wide receivers aren't like out of

Starting point is 00:42:19 this world. Good. But if you want to push the ball downfield and give your team chances like that, you also need time in the pocket. True, true. Good point. Good counterpoint. Three for 19 yards is tough. So some quarterbacks are just, they're meant to be backup quarterbacks and that's Jacobi Berset.

Starting point is 00:42:37 He has a hard time flipping the switch over into starter mode because he's still playing like the way that he played today would be a perfect backup quarterback spot start game. Yeah, like don't lose us the game. Yeah. He's a big don't lose us the game guy. Yeah, which I guess if that's I guess the question of whether you go all in or not, if you go all in, it should be Drake May. That's my point. If it's tank, then Jacoba, that's perfect. That makes sense. Yeah, I think that's fair. Hank, let me ask you this. And I think it's still up in the air. If at the start of the year year you had been told you're gonna be one and One through two games, would you take it?

Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah, yeah, would you would you have rather oh and two? No, okay. I would have rather two and oh, yeah Because you won the first one because we won the first one they went for it on fourth and are they they punted on fourth And one it was there on like their own 40 45 area And overtime I feel like they should just went for it and tried to win the game That was stupid because then it's just all the other team has to do is kick a field goal That would be my only note From the game if you're gonna be in if you're gonna be in overtime just just go for the win Yeah, how do you feel about Malcolm Butler being the next man to touch the bill after you? I thought he did a great job. It's crazy. It's been ten years

Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, let the team onto the field picked a good game to do it too. Yeah Hank I actually want to give you credit I think you're dealing with this patriot season the correct way because you've never really been in this spot where it is a hard dance to do where you Don't want to tank right away because then it's like, fuck, this sucks. We're tanking from game one, that's stupid. You have something to believe.

Starting point is 00:44:09 But you also don't want to go all in and then end up with five or six wins and not a good draft pick. So you're in that middle ground right now where you gotta feel it out and figure out which way you want to go. And I was expecting us to look like the Broncos or the Steelers where it's just ugly games not a lot of points

Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't know But they're just ugly games, but they're true. They're to know all right Broncos maybe commanders Maybe we're one-on-one. I know I'm saying the games are not fun to watch Yeah, enters offense was good today. You guys didn't score touchdown you kicked a thousand field Yeah, I'm trying so hard to find this handoff. Yeah No way I guarantee you I am the only person online that cares about this Hank honestly, this is you know, I'm gonna get it for you on the altar. Okay. Okay. Hey, can I can I tell you something? It would maybe be fun. Mm-hmm

Starting point is 00:44:56 Your number three overall pick Drake may that would be fun. If no, I'm saying we've been having I've been having fun Oh, I was expecting not fun. Oh, I've been entertained and had fun in both games. Got it. Oh, that's good. Then that's all matters. We're having fun That's really what you want. Yeah, even you almost won that game. Yeah, you should have won that game there was a bad defensive pass interference call that I think Tyler Lockett even told whoever your defensive back is like that actually was not a penalty like on the field He said it to him. So you can just say the refs and they just had that one, you know Brain fart on the DK Metcalf touchdown. Yeah, he was wide open and credit to is that's not Pat the Patriots One of the live-action Patriots that stand in the end zone and shoot a gun when you score a touchdown

Starting point is 00:45:39 Mm-hmm. Where are they? Are they the Minutemen? I think so Okay so one of the Minutemen, when DK scored his touchdown, DK almost ran up to him like he was gonna use him for a prop, and the guy just turned around and was like, I'm not even gonna look at you. Way to hold, you know, hold the line. Yeah, it was free.

Starting point is 00:45:54 Fend the wall? Fend the wall. Fend the wall. Yeah, your defense is good. I mean, Christian Gonzalez is incredible. He did a very good job against DK Metcalf. I know DK had a big day, but a lot of it was not as most of us have one plan and it wasn't against Christian Gonzalez. Right. I don't

Starting point is 00:46:10 know. I just, I, for your sake, I, you should start Drake may it's fun when you have a new toy. Yeah. And, and Jacobi said again, very nice guy like him want to have him on the show someday. He was getting back up quarterback smoked. Our offensive line is so bad. Yeah. Like he had no time. I know the wide receiver thing but he also had no time to throw. If you throw in a rookie quarterback the risk just goes through the roof. He did have a really fucked up hand too. Did you see that? Yeah. They showed his arm at the end of the game. He had like, I don't know if it was turf burns. Yeah. He looked like a flesh wound. Yeah, it looked like the start of the zombie disease that this is us. Yeah By the way

Starting point is 00:46:50 We have an update on the handoff for shod white takes a handoff from jayden daniels and gets into the end zone for the Nine-yard touchdown 2110 ASU with 45 seconds remaining in the third. I don't think that's two teams ago I might not be from this year. I mean I told you I was going deep trying to find this handoff. Well, it sounds like that was a great handoff too. It sounds like there's a lot of tape on there and the scouts are buzzing about how good he is. Oh no, Jaden Daniels' handoff to A.J. Carter never seemed to be secured and it's a lost fumble on ASU's first play at its own 13 yard line.

Starting point is 00:47:18 So that's a bad start. A.J. Carter wasn't ready for it. That's from December 31st, 2019. A.J. Carter has fumbleitis. Everybody knows that. You guys are going to, whatever. Listen, I'm- I said it was a good handoff. It was a great handoff. ready for that's from December 31st 2019 AJ Carter has fumble latest you guys are gonna whatever listen I'm I said it was a good it was a great handoff I'm

Starting point is 00:47:29 not gonna back down from that I said it was good I looked like he was doing a dance move it was sick I did so there was a point in the afternoon games where I just like asked around the room what do you guys think about Jaden Daniels because I feel like he's he's played well I just need to have other people say it yeah it might be some I thought he played's, he's played well and I just need to have other people say it. Yeah. It might be some, I thought he played well. I thought he played well today. Yeah. And his chin strap was buckled. I thought he played well. Um, by the way, see, see, ox might be good. I think they are. I mean, they're, they're two and oh, yeah, they're two and oh, I guess the Broncos and Patriots maybe aren't the best test. They play the

Starting point is 00:47:57 dolphins Broncos almost. I mean, Patriots almost beat the chiefs. What? Essentially. Oh yeah. We're, we're, we should have beat the chiefs. You basically beat the chiefs. What? Essentially. Oh yeah. We're, we're, we're, we should have beat the chiefs. You basically beat the chiefs. Well, the Raven, if you played the chiefs in a seven game series, that's going seven. Maybe not. It might be four Oh sweet Patriots. The Ravens almost beat the chiefs, but then the Ravens lost to the Raiders. So did the Raiders almost beat the chiefs? Yeah. So the Patriots and the Raiders are two of the best teams in the NFL. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:29 Interesting. Yeah, I mean, the Patriots beat the Bengals soundly and the Bengals only lost by one to the, or two to the Chiefs. That's huge. I know. That's huge. So you're not thinking the Yofs yet?

Starting point is 00:48:43 No. Okay, Smart. What do you think about Jerry O'Connell's video? I love that he's back in his bing bong voice. Did you see the video? I did see it. Okay. Let's play it for the people.

Starting point is 00:48:54 I'm going to find it. Or you want to pull it up, Max? You pull it up. Uh, what did you think? I saw that he did it. I didn't watch it. Oh, you didn't. Why not? He's it. So to set the it. Oh, you didn't? Why not?

Starting point is 00:49:08 So to set the scene for anyone who's listening on the podcast, Jerry's out what looks like some kind of hike with four dogs? Four dogs, shirtless. Great dogs. And he's got the arm weights on, the two and a half pound arm weights. It's gonna be something about? No, no.

Starting point is 00:49:24 Blowing it? I don't know what his obsession be something about. No, no. Blowing it. I mean, I don't want his obsession with me. And that's why he likes you. But Hanky, look at me, I'm outside. I'm doing my exercises. I'm not inside of a golf simulator. My beautiful dogs, all of them. You got your son to mind.

Starting point is 00:49:44 You think your pets are gonna beat Seattle today I don't think so. I'm taking Seattle plus the under Cuz your team can't school Bing Bong get outside Anki you blew it Then it cut off. I Mean, he's just talking shit. Just guys. It's just smack talking, but Jerry's actually the most I mean, he's just talking shit just guys. It's just smack talking but Jerry's actually the most Half of this show is just an obsession with you pft. You know this desk has an obsession with you Yeah, I don't get just let me live. Yeah, so I mean he just he's falling in line with the obsession with you

Starting point is 00:50:20 To the under hit no no no and the Seahawks also didn't cover I think I think it ended up going to three or it was three a kick so he pushed so oh one and one for Jerry I got my three and a half yeah all right well good job Hank thanks just being just existing that's about my first good job existing yeah thank you do you want to quickly just talk about the Apple Cup real quick I know we talked college football on Wednesdays yeah I mean that was brutal and then I woke up this morning and saw the news that they lost. Yeah. Yeah. So I will regain. It's always tough. You we when did you find out they lost? I saw that they lost last night. I didn't see the play until today. Yeah. So we texted you right away. I text you the minute the play happened I said, sorry Hank and pfd was like he doesn't even know what we're sorry for and

Starting point is 00:51:09 No, he said I can't I can't wait to see Google text or Google search to figure out why he's upset right? Like hey Hank when you see that we're sorry for you and you have to find out why what does that Google search it? What goes through your head I honestly didn't even my phone was dead and like by the time I turned it on I had like those messages got lost in the in the flood got it. Got it. So I didn't even see the apologies So you weren't your phone was dead. Were you not were you watching kent state tennessee? Nope damn Just living your life living my life life. And the Apple Cup. That's brutal.

Starting point is 00:51:46 Cause that one meant more. Yeah, it did. And we were right there at the goal line at the end. I know. Cause you can't chant Mountain West at Wazoo anymore. Yeah. Can't make fun of them for their non-conference. Are you still confident in the coach?

Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah. And his name is what? How do you think the quarterback played? Hank? I don't know. You got the coach's name. I don't. Jed Hoyer. No. Jed Fish. Jed Fish. Came from Arizona.

Starting point is 00:52:18 That's an easy one. Yeah. You got that now. We're going to quiz you next week. OK. Stop. I know how much that apple cup meant to you. I know. Like I said, it was seeing the play that I couldn't even bring myself to watch the play until today. Yeah. And Tyler van Dyke got hurt. Have you? That's brutal. Have you watched the play? I did. You saw the play? Yeah. What happened on it? Oh, they

Starting point is 00:52:39 ran to the right. It got stuffed. Yep. He saw it. Confir confirmed. He saw it. Is there any pitch back or What kind of play was it it's a run play I don't think you watch the play You watch the play option play you watch the play Option play. Yeah You I mean that is a run. I understand option is a run It was so hard for you to watch it. You barely an option is a run Yeah, because he probably watched it like through his fingers because he was almost like, I can't look, I can't look. I'm so nervous. He was essentially a Roman Roy in, in succession when the rocket blows up and he sees the rocket blow up and he just puts it, puts the phone back in his pocket and he just goes on about his day.

Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah. You saw that. You're just like, I can't deal with this right now. Pretty much. Um, all right, before we get to some more games, a quick word from our friends at Game Time. So football season is here. We can't wait to get out to some games this fall with the help of Game Time, the official ticketing partner Barstool Sports. I was in Madison on Saturday. I use Game Time. I use the Game Time picks feature, got great seats, 50 yard line. So you know how much we love Game Time now with their brand new Game Time picks feature. They're making it even easier to get to a game. Max, you're going to the game tonight. Yep. Tonight. All right. Look it up, look it up and see if anyone's looking

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Starting point is 00:55:58 took them seven years. Yeah. But he has finally arrived in the NFL. He's not one of the worst quarterbacks in the world, which he was with the Jets. He is now, dare I say good? He had a 97 yard touchdown pass to Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson did some awesome work with the cut back there. QB's to never have a 97 yard or more touchdown pass in the NFL is from our friend StatH stat hole who has a great blog every Monday

Starting point is 00:56:27 recapping all the stats Patrick Mahomes these are guys who have never had this that Sam Donald now has Patrick Mahomes Peyton Manning Eli Manning Dan Marino John Elway Joe Montana Aaron Rogers Troy Eggman pretty good pretty good Group of quarterbacks and they never did what Sam Darnold did today. And it was incredible. It was a great pass. It was.

Starting point is 00:56:47 And you can't help but root for Sam either. Yeah. I feel like he's one of those guys where through no fault of his own, he's been just kind of like run through the dog shit. He was on those hyperdrive jets, right? When they were turning the offense to hyperdrive. He was poisoned by Adam Gase.

Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah. Yeah, so you have to root for a guy like that to come back. And yeah, he looked good today against his old team. I was very happy to see it. The 49ers did not look great. Fred Warner, by the way, that guy, he is so fun to watch. As fun of a linebacker. That's a football player.

Starting point is 00:57:17 It's a football player. That guy plays football and he does it very well. I wouldn't smash the panic button yet if I was a 49ers, but today I thought about the panic button. It's not, so Brock Burdey was under fire all day it felt like. Brandon Iuke has still not got going, which I guess I understand. And Christian McCaffrey is now, is he on the, is he out for four weeks at least?

Starting point is 00:57:39 He's on the IR. So not panic button because I think the 49ers could play bad and still tread water for a month because they have so much talent. Yeah. But if you're a super you're you're expecting to go back to the Super Bowl. It hasn't been the greatest start with the fact that Christian McCaffrey is out for a while and the Vikings defense kind of ate you up a little bit. Brian Flores, he's a good defensive coach, not a good head coach, good defensive coach. Yeah, they ate you up for sure. Christian McCaffrey being out week one didn't really seem to matter

Starting point is 00:58:12 at all, but you think about how good the 49ers are and how many options they have and you're like, oh, that won't be a problem not having Christian McCaffrey. But then all you're saying is that you're just going back to the pretty good 49ers that you had before Christian McCaffrey. And then he just makes your offense look entirely different when he's on the field. You can't play defense against the 49ers the same way at all when he's just there. His presence makes a huge difference. Hank, what do you think about Christian McCaffrey? When do you think he's going to come back?

Starting point is 00:58:38 How long do people usually stay on the IR for? Four weeks is minimum. And he just went on this week? Yeah. So probably no around week six Yeah, you think he's he's definitely coming back. Yeah, I don't see why wouldn't yeah Okay, you think he loves football not like a Barry Sanders situation He's a football. He's from a football family football guy through and through. Yes. He is a football family. Yep. Good point. Um

Starting point is 00:59:01 Brian floor is not this just popped my head. I want to see how I can phrase this Do you think there was a part of Brian Flores, now this just popped in my head. I want to see how I can phrase this. Do you think there was a part of Brian Flores? Well, we know Brian Flores isn't like the nicest guy, right? I think that's been established. Correct. Do you think a part of him was like man to his concussion means I can't say see I told you so with how bad to was playing before the concussion? Oh, yeah, he probably thought about that. He was definitely rooting against to a yeah, he probably was like telling say see I told you so with how bad to was playing before the concussion. Oh, yeah He probably thought about that. He was definitely rooting against to a yeah

Starting point is 00:59:27 He probably was like telling people see I told you so and then had to delete the text message after to have got the concussion Cuz we obviously that was a horrific concussion. He was probably upset He was playing horrible before the king right so Brian Flores was like damn now. I can't say hey Hey, I told to his to his close friends. He probably would say, hey, I told you so. He was equally upset with the hit as he was with not being able to take victory laps about two. Correct. Because you know that's actually what the Vikings, the Vikings have done a very good job.

Starting point is 00:59:54 They've just completely sequestered him from Sam Darnold. Brian Flores should not be allowed to even look at Sam Darnold. Right, because he'll just eat him alive. Don't let him speak to a quarterback, ever. He probably mutters under his breath, like, Sam Donald, you're not worth shit, dude. But I think that might be a mark of a great defensive

Starting point is 01:00:10 coordinator. If you hate quarterbacks that much, that you just will do anything to break them down. Yeah. That's great. Just coach defense. Yeah. This game also could have gone very differently

Starting point is 01:00:20 if Jordan Mason hadn't fumbled. Was Jordan Mason who fumbled? I think Jordan Mason fumbled. He fumbled at the goal line going in. And that like the 49ers, that's why the panic button would be super because you, you just had some plays not go your way, even though the Vikings deserve this win because their defense was very good. But like that fumble took all the momentum out of that game. Yeah. How mad do you think fantasy owners are if they drafted Chris McCaffrey first

Starting point is 01:00:44 overall? Hank, what do you think? Might be a class action lawsuit. Yeah, very mad. But there it's not like he's it's not like anything else is going on there, right? I don't think so. Okay. Oh, wait, maybe it was Brock Purdy who fumbled. Brock Purdy did fumble and I think Debo might have recovered it. Maybe the statute statute saying lost was only one from Brock Purdy and Jordan Mason had a fumble as well. I don't know. Either way they fumbled on the goal line.

Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Jets 24, Titans 17. Memes. Congrats memes. Let's go. All the apps still on your phone?

Starting point is 01:01:23 All the apps still on my phone. All TVs intact. Yes! Let's go memes. So, how are we feeling? Currently feeling great. Beginning of the game I was in a dark place. Because it was one of those times, a flat circle. The Patriots are good and the Jets suck.

Starting point is 01:01:41 Because it looked like the Patriots were... Gonna win. Gonna win. I mean it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because it looked like the Patriots were... Gonna win. Gonna win. I mean, it was 7-0. Yeah. Now, memes, you're a big TV setup guy, right? Yes.

Starting point is 01:01:51 Like at your house. You've got... It's quite the setup. How many do you have? Four. Four in the one room, one in the other. So memes are also a big interactions, impressions guy on social media, correct? Correct.

Starting point is 01:02:03 Have you thought about if the Jets lose a big game sacrificing one of those TVs just to do numbers by another one easily smash many times well no I was going to if they if the Titans scored a touchdown and got the two-point conversion and they would have gone for were you gonna film it probably not it would just been a full full kick well you got to film it you gotta have like a GoPro going yeah I, I'll set one up on the ceiling so it captures it. I don't think I have time to take the phone out and then... Right. It's just gotta be all one motion.

Starting point is 01:02:32 Have you thought about which TV you're gonna sacrifice when it does happen? The one all the way to the left. Okay, that's the one, that's like the bastard child, you don't like that one. Memes, how are you feeling about Nathaniel Hackett and Robert Salah? First quarter I wanted every single person fired. As the game progressed, I'm okay. Because there's a chance Robert Salah is just not a good head coach, but he always had the excuse of Zach Wilson as his quarterback. Yeah, there's a very good chance. Because the Jets were kind of sloppy again some a lot of penalties

Starting point is 01:03:06 Just like what was up with there was multiple times where I feel like Aaron Rodgers the play clock. They had to call timeouts I believe that was on Aaron Rodgers. Okay. Okay. He just forgot Time yep. Okay, it'll happen when you're in a darkness retreat. Yeah What do you think about my guy Braylon Allen? Brad your Braylon Allen's a stud having him and Breeze Hall in the same backfield is is a problem yeah it is you want the craziest woe stat yes it was such a woe stat that I actually had to call Jake and tell him the stats I knew he'd appreciate it I swear to God I called him like an hour ago Braylon

Starting point is 01:03:39 Allen is the youngest player to score touchdown the NFL in almost a hundred years since 1930 1930 was the last time There was someone as young as him Braylon Allen today is 20 years old 200 239 days in 1930 Arnie Herber Was 20 years old 239 days the exact same age. Well, they're both from Wisconsin They both are Badgers that was the last time someone as young as him scored a touchdown to the day. So they tied.

Starting point is 01:04:08 Yeah. Arnie Herbert was a problem. I watched some of his, he was actually like the first one to pass. Was he really? Yeah. So was he quarterback or running back? He was both. Okay. So kind of like a dual threat guy. Yeah. Like a Justin Fields.

Starting point is 01:04:18 I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Memes. Braille and Allen, he is very, very explosive. And this is is why this is why running back should be allowed to enter the draft Earlier because you get guys like that that are ready and then they get to the second contract by the time They're what like 24 25 years old. I mean, he's young and always been young then you can dip on a second contract But yeah, he's he's very fun to watch. He was 17. Was that a woe for you? That was well, it's crazy Herber we might need my mind is blown We might need you to make an Arnie like Arnie Herber was a woe. That was a woe. It's Kramer-Herber. My mind is blown. We might need you to make an Arnie,

Starting point is 01:04:45 like Arnie Herber was a problem, highlight reel. What team did he play for? He played for the Packers. So he had a crazy story. He played freshman for Wisconsin, then went to Regis College in Denver, and Regis College disbanded their football team. And so he moved back, He's from green Bay.

Starting point is 01:05:05 He moved back to green Bay and was working as like a janitor. And then they were just like, he's like, can I try out for the team? And then he was a problem. And then he was a phenom and then he scored. Yeah, right there. Yeah. He's running the ball. He's passing the ball. I saw one where he threw one of the worst passes ever, but it worked. Look at that back foot. He's actually known as like the predecessor to like the Sammy ball, like the guys who started like really throwing the ball. This is sick. Yeah. Arnie Arnie Herber problem. Look at him. Look at field. It's trash. Bang. Dime. Oh, I love the milk man. Yeah. It looked like a milk man. Got reforms

Starting point is 01:05:42 used to be newsboy caps and then pajamas Rules and there's oh, yeah that look at that. That was a tight spiral. Yeah, they're probably saying that's witchcraft You can't pass the ball Arnie Herber problem. So yeah that 20 20 years old 239 days that's railing Allen did the exact same thing today Yeah, I do like how Nathaniel Hackett is kind of figuring out all these guys that they actually do have in their offense Nathaniel Hackett is kind of figuring out all these guys that they actually do have in their offense braille and her Alan was this week Next week, they'll figure out Mike Williams Yeah, I think it was one week to figure out every single person they have on the team When is Garrett Wilson gonna be figured out?

Starting point is 01:06:16 uh Thursday night, okay, so Nathaniel Hackett is essentially Renting an Airbnb and like you get there you check in at night and then the next day you're like, oh, there's this room Yeah, oh shit. They got a back patio. Oh cool. We can just unlock everything here Yeah, what one one week at a time though? Okay, can't put too much on his plate. No GTL for Thursday Guess that line. Oh, oh Where's the game being played New York? I'm gonna say it's New York Jersey in New Jersey I'm gonna say the New Jersey Jets

Starting point is 01:06:50 minus Three and a half. I was gonna say four What is it? I'm gonna guess four and a half Yes a five we've covered it all max you want to go five and a half or you want to go two and a half I'll go two and a half. Oh, wow. Okay We've got it all. I guess we didn't have three. All right Do we have a line? Is anyone looking at it? Hank, when you say should we do GTL you should you should look up GTL

Starting point is 01:07:16 So then you can tell us the GTL. My phone's dead. Oh again? Whoa Jets mine is seven. Seven? Our advanced stats say you got to hammer the Patriots. Yeah, I'm gonna hammer the Patriots damn Wow, I am Wow It must've braille and Alan. He's only 20 years old 239 days. Maybe do they know Drake may starting Oh Does Vegas know something push the ball downfield? Yeah, uh Will Levis we we like. Yep. Will Levis needs to like maybe go to like a Mike Pence conversion therapy where they're like sacks are okay. Well, that's the opposite. Yeah, that'd be the opposite.

Starting point is 01:07:56 Like no sacks. Taking a sack is okay. No, not Mike Pence. He did. He did the same thing different because it wasn't a pick six, but it was a fumble where he was getting sacked and he just threw the ball backwards when they were going in on the six yard line. Yeah. It's okay to take a sack. Will Loves played better today, but it's okay to take a sack and not do... It's actually,

Starting point is 01:08:19 Prisco said he's kind of like Josh Allen, early Josh Allen, and there's a similarity in that just mash all the buttons and hope the play worked. That play was, it was full Josh Allen. It was bad Josh Allen. I think Josh Allen did that exact same play when he was in the playoffs, was it against the Texans? I believe it was. It was the same game where he threw the bomb downfield to the fullback.

Starting point is 01:08:39 Right. Yeah, it was the exact same type of play where he was upside down and then threw the ball underhand To some guy that wasn't standing there. Yes, and one of the worst fumbles that you'll ever see He does he is a little bit crazy crazy. I think you're gonna get a lot of he's crazy At when he throws the ball downfield. Sometimes it looks really good coming out of his hands. He's got strong arm Mm-hmm. He can look good. He can run but he needs to be just like 20% less crazy Yeah, maybe even 40% less crazy because the Titans defense is good. Yeah, they are there That's a good defense and like that that was got some weapons too. Yeah, they could have won

Starting point is 01:09:13 Yeah, like the Titans are the Titans are the number one oh and two team that could easily be 2-0. Yeah, Ligeria Sneed Pretty good at defense. Yeah Calvin Ridley great catch unbelievable catch Just be just dial back to crazy. Just turn it down a little bit Yeah, and just remind yourself that hey getting sacked is not the worst thing It was his offensive coordinator or his head coach that was like hey, well, what the fuck are you doing? I think it was I think it was Brian. Was that Brian Callahan? Yeah, we like as well. So yeah Titans are gonna be They're not gonna make the playoffs, but I think they will be one of those spoiler teams tough out teams. You've seen it through two weeks But just turn down the crazy little yeah also

Starting point is 01:09:53 That's the complete correct reaction from your coach when you do something like that Oh 100% you don't want to all we're thinking you don't want to nurture that you don't be like that's okay It'll be better next no you want to you want to correct that problem immediately yeah you want to yeah you want to basically they should do they should do the I know it's it's kind of like a trope it doesn't actually I hope it doesn't so happen but like you catch your kid smoking a cigarette you make him smoke an entire pack of cigarettes yeah they should just have him just keep getting sacked and throwing it backwards being like another fumble fuck you what are you doing I going to say actually the next time they catch him doing that,

Starting point is 01:10:27 he should make him smoke a whole pack of cigarettes. That too. I think that would fix the problem. That's actually the best way to correct any behavior. If he was just sitting on the sidelines smoke like what happened? Well, why, why are you smoking this pack of cigarettes? Did another crazy, I turned the ball over crazy play where I could have easily just taken a sack. I actually think that would work. Yeah. Yeah, he should do that Yeah, just make or ban Mayo from him. Yeah, if you take away the Mayo, maybe he'll stop doing it. That's cruel You just give it as a treat. Yeah, he's like hey, you can't have Mayo this week. You're unless you Turn down the crazy instead of those the things that go around your neck the collars that prevent concussions

Starting point is 01:11:02 He should just wear an actual shot color. Yeah. And so during the game, just buzz them. You buzz them when you need them to just go down for a sack. Yeah. That is Mike Pence. Yeah. Yeah, there it is. We found it.

Starting point is 01:11:13 Okay. Next game, Packers 16, Colts 10. Malik Willis did it. There should be a giant blinking sign that appears on this podcast that whenever I say, this is my favorite game to bet of all time, that you should take the opposite of what I say. And we called it in real time too. Yeah. I like to pack. They were my mortal. I am a big advisors. I'm a giant square. I have four equal distance sides. I have a four,

Starting point is 01:11:40 six lines of symmetry, however many square has. That's me. I'm a square. When I told you I was going to bet this game heavier than any other game That was the most obvious sign of all time that when uh when it's reached me when that level of confidence has reached me You should do the exact opposite of what I say. Here's the thing You can't you you weren't wrong in the fact that betting against Malik Willis is probably a good idea The it just overshadowed that. And I know that I'm in for a war. We're going to get to the Bears game.

Starting point is 01:12:08 I'm in for a war next week with the Colts fans because the Bears play the Colts. But Anthony Richardson is just not that good at quarterbacking. Right now. Right now. He could get better. I know that there were also some drop passes. So I'll say that right up front like there were definitely drop passes for Anthony Richardson

Starting point is 01:12:27 But he had two very very bad Interceptions and missing guys and the Packers like I said on Friday. I thought they were gonna just run the ball They ran the ball 53 times. They basically were like Malik. Here's the game plan. We're gonna have you throw it I think it's worth 14 times. He's 12 for 14. We're going to play defense. We're going to let Anthony Richardson make the mistakes, not you make the mistakes. And it was, we give Matt LaFleur a lot of shit. I think he's a phenomenal coach. Uh, and that this game showed it like this was a, a coaching game where Matt LaFleur was like, I know that I got my hand behind my back with Malik Willis, but I have a path and this is the path and they

Starting point is 01:13:06 the Packers ran it to perfection. Yeah, it was it was ugly for the Indianapolis defense and their run defense stakes. Yeah, this is to gain. That was part of why they've got absolutely gashed. And this was it was ugly. They just think about anything they did fumble on the goal. I got a break on that one. Yeah. So yeah, it was mostly about the Packers just owning the clock and then letting Anthony Richardson make the mistakes. Um, he did not play well. Malik will has played better than I thought that he would too. Yeah. I was surprised. So he obviously didn't win the game for the Packers, but he had over a hundred yards passing for the first time in his career. So that's pretty impressive. You ran the ball, the package had the ball for minutes. And the Packers have now won 12 straight home openers. That's the longest streak in the NFL and the next longest going into this weekend. I'm not

Starting point is 01:13:52 sure where it is now, but the next longest was three going into this weekend. So now I guess that would be 13 straight home openers that the Packers have won. So a tough place to play no matter what time of year. Yeah. and they looked I mean, I Normally, I'd be mad that the Packers won a game like this but because I Prepared myself and I was like I think they're gonna win this game because I think Matt LaFleur is gonna do a really good Job getting them ready. I was ready for it. And again, I Anthony Richardson, I just don't I don't see it what other people see maybe Hank. You're an Anthony Richardson guy. Mm-hmm What do you see and and I know everyone's gonna come after me be like

Starting point is 01:14:27 Kale Williams has not looked good through two games I agree we're gonna get to that the only difference is Kale Williams is really good in college Anthony Richardson wasn't so that's where I'm like I don't know I don't know where it came from he's got a great PR team Anthony Richardson the college game that I saw many was the greatest player that's I've ever seen play in person yeah I know this that's all I'm ready. That's what I've seen to ball out against the way Anthony Richardson also had some cool games last year Yeah, he's he's got obviously that arm doesn't grow on trees. So I again I feel like I'm repeating myself I apologize if I am I understand

Starting point is 01:15:01 Drafting as a project. It's just not there yet. He should be a favorite on the road I would say that Anthony Richardson highlights are up there with almost any other quarterbacks highlights Yeah, if you just watch his good plays and the low lights are tough low lights are very very bad. Yeah. Yeah It's no I don't believe in them. No, okay. We had a quick technical issue. Hank just teleported over the couch We also forgot where we were in our conversation quick in the pocket took a minute. Oh quick in the pocket. Took a minute. Oh, and the Richness quick in the pocket. No accuracy though. Yeah I think I said I think I was explaining it to someone he his deep ball if he could

Starting point is 01:15:34 throw his medium deep ball and his short ball like his sometime deep ball. Yeah it'd be sick. If he could throw his short ball like his deep ball. Yeah. Yeah I agree because his deep ball is awesome. Yeah. It'd be sick. If he could throw his short ball like his deep ball. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Cause his deep ball is awesome. Yeah. Except when he throws picks on it. Yeah. Yeah. He's look, I think he's exciting to watch when he plays well, but right now he's got a lot of work to do. Yeah. Young quarterbacks shouldn't be judged by a few games. He's what? On his fifth game? Yeah. I'm just saying I don't see it right now. Maybe it could be the offensive lines fault. Could be. Could be the's fault. Could be.

Starting point is 01:16:05 Could be the defense fault. Could be, could be. The rushing, Indianapolis needs to figure out the run defense. Yeah, I mean, again, I just walked away from this game being like, this is what, I've known it forever, the Packers run a model organization, that's what they fucking do.

Starting point is 01:16:19 They're annoying that way. They have a guy who by all, like visuals can't play quarterback in the NFL and they bring him out there and then he wins a game. That's what they do. That's what the Packers fucking do. I think Hank, he gave him a nickname prematurely. What'd he say? Tony Rich.

Starting point is 01:16:37 Tony Rich. Tony Rich, a little too soon for that. Tony Rich. Today was not Tony Rich. Also, shout out Josh Myers for puking on the ball and then still snapping it. Yeah, that was a great part of the game. Wouldn't Malik say Josh Myers for puking on the ball and then still snapping it. Yeah, that was a great, a great part of the game. Wouldn't Malik say like I didn't throw the ball because it had puke on it? Yeah. Yeah. And not a gamer. And the ref I

Starting point is 01:16:53 guess went up to Matt LaFleur after the game was like, or maybe after the play and said, Hey, if that happens again, do you want us to stop the play? He's like, yeah, I'd appreciate that. That'd be fun. Now is it, is it a flag if you're if your center pukes on a defensive lineman I don't think so because I was think used to piss on people. Yeah, I would I would train my offensive line to do that Yeah, it was that was quite a visual though. Just puking directly on the ball and then snapping it Yeah, then Malik Willis didn't throw the ball. Yeah, because he had puke on it now next week We have a Malik Willis revenge game. He's playing the Titans playing the Titans So what how do we handicap that?

Starting point is 01:17:26 Because I feel like we got a good Malik game today Are we are we gonna bet on it tap into two games or I might just keep betting against Malik until I win I think just double my bet every time. I think it might be three and one against the spread I'm pretty and the Titans Titans have snatched two Defeats from the jaws of victory. Yeah line Yeah, yeah, but everyone's down on the Titans Maybe maybe I'm just cashing at the right time. Wait, so you're gonna you're down on the tight I think I might double my bets every week against Malik Willis until I hit one got it. Okay. Yeah I mean like that's a good it will happen eventually. It has to although Jordan love that was weird when he was

Starting point is 01:18:03 Questionable and then doubt doubtful, but it was weird that he was questionable and then doubt doubtful But it was weird that he was even questionable for a minute. Yeah, it was really strange Yeah, so then Jordan love could start and then I'd feel like a real asshole. Yeah, I was worried about that for you I don't think I truth be told big cat. You'll probably agree with this I think that it's just the Packers just if somebody puts on a Packers uniform That's what I said, then they become good at quarterback. That's it's it's bullshit There's some teams where you put on their uniform and you become a bad quarterback We know several of them and then there are some teams where it's just you fit in and it's it's again

Starting point is 01:18:35 It's they have a backup quarterback and they're like, hey, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna drop a perfect game plan Yeah this is how we can win the game and Play to our strengths and then they execute it and Then you walk away saying how the fuck did they just do that and everyone tweets you being like Malik Willis has more wins or Touchdown passes and Caleb Williams and shit like that. Yeah, that's mean. Yeah, that's bullshit And for a while it was also true that he had more hundred yard passing games

Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah, but not anymore anymore. Wow, you're feeling yourself with the handoff King Dude, he handed the fuck out of that feeling himself with the handoff king. Jane Daniels is good Uh, it's a score touchdown brown Yeah, but guess what we won Hank we scored 21 points first team in NFL history To win a game when your opponent scores three touchdowns and you don't score a single touchdown. Do you do offensive do false starts? Come back to the quarterback or is that not really depends. It you do offensive? Do false starts come back to the quarterback or is that not related? Depends. It depends on what kind of false start. Yeah. Cause they had like 27 in the red zone. They did. Yeah, that's true. And we overcame them. Yeah. Um,

Starting point is 01:19:34 all right. Brown's Jaguars. Do you want to see him fail? Hank? Well, I think you want to see Caleb Williams fail. I want, I want, I want all of your teams to win. I don't know. I want all of their teams to lose. I don't know I want all of their teams to lose I want Caleb I've been nothing but nice about you. I want every team in this room to win I want Caleb to be good. I don't I don't I was rooting starting to feel that's not the case I was rooting for Caleb tonight Hank and I just wanted Jayden Daniels score touchdown for yeah Yeah, and they just there was so many were so many times he was in great situations.

Starting point is 01:20:05 And then I was following the game cast on the plane. I think I'm the second biggest Caleb fan in this room. I don't think so. I don't think so. Why? I just don't think so. I think Hank would be. I have a My Fantasy team.

Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, Hank probably is. I like Caleb Williams. I think if there's like a mouse in here, he might be. I don't know what else to say. A critter, a creepy crawler on the ground. It's OK. He had a bad game. We're gonna get to it, but uh, it's okay I can feel the shift. I felt the shift there. I did I you guys both want your quarterback to be better than the other and that's of course. Well, yeah Yeah, but I'm not rooting against Jaden Daniels. Like I was I have never said you can find one bad thing

Starting point is 01:20:42 I've ever said about Jaden Daniels. I'm not really fair. I don't think PFT is the vibe. I understand the vibe shift I'm talking about vibe but like purely I think they're like I thought they're really are shifting I think because my his vibe cats at first they cats on you're on high alert No, I mean, which is fine I said the Malik will sing and they're like and also Malik wills had more hundred yard passing games before kale booms That was you basically turned into a Twitter a Twitter. Well at this at this point in the podcast I was also feeling salty about losing my bet so badly because it was a big bet and So losing to Malik Willis. Yeah, then I get mad about Malik. Well, I've been gracious about it. I bet the Packers

Starting point is 01:21:20 I've been very gracious. Yeah, I've been very gracious I just fucking hate the Packers and I know when they're gonna win and that was such a Packers have been very gracious. Yeah. I've been very gracious. I just fucking hate the Packers and I know when they're gonna win. And that was such a Packers game. I told you I wanted Caleb Williams to win how many nine Super Bowls? Yeah. And then Jaden just gets three. Yeah, I feel like that's that's pretty gracious. Yeah, we're doing a gracious off. Just saying the vibe shifted there. All right, Brown's Jaguars. Let's talk about the Brown's Jaguars. Brown's defenses back the Brown's Jaguars. Brown's defense is back. Trevor Lawrence had 16 yards in the first 35 minutes of the game, and they looked so bad.

Starting point is 01:21:52 Yeah, I've got a sad Jaguar stat for you, courtesy of our good friend Uncle Chaps. He sent this one over to me. You know how long it's been since Trevor has his last victory as a starter. It's 294 days. It's longer than the drought between his last college victory and his first NFL victory. Oh man. So it's been a while. He had Urban Meyer as his coach his first year. Yeah it's been a while for Trevor. The Browns didn't look bad today and it seems like maybe having their starting tackles back makes a pretty big difference. Yeah they didn't look bad until they did look bad and tried to be the Jaguars.

Starting point is 01:22:29 They tried to out Jaguar the Jaguars. They had the game in hand and then they're like let's see if we can fuck around and give this game to the Jaguars. There was that moment with two minutes left where they had a third and 36 up 16 to 13. They ended up getting the safety make it 18 13 but that was close. The Browns were close. They were close. The Browns also passed the ball for some reason when they had the ball and they were up late. They could essentially run out the clock but then they decided that they were going to get cute with it and try to pass. Did not work for them. It was it was nice to see Jamis out on the field. Yes, I guess he's a sneak He's a designated quarterback sneaker memes had the stat one and oh in games that james plays

Starting point is 01:23:10 That's pretty good graphic. I think we've got a formula there. That's pretty good graphic Uh, so are the browns good or the jaguars bad? I think I think jag's bad Yeah, I think the jaguars are bad. I think the browns defense can still be good Against bad quarterbacks Yeah, I was Garrett was making Trevor live in hell today Yeah, and Trevor Lawrence did have he ended up with 220 yards, but yeah, it was it was ugly for a very long time Yeah, it was very it was a very ugly game weird weather And Deshaun Watson that one graphic. Oh, man. Do we have that the latest allegation graphic. Yeah. Deshaun. He literally has, he has

Starting point is 01:23:47 like working in a factory, you know, five days since the last time he's had an allegation against. I have it right here. Deshaun Watson latest. This was a graphic on the TV during the on the broadcast. Yeah, I said it's bad when they have a latest allegations graphic ready to go. Yeah latest allegations Monday Accused of sexual assault new lawsuit this week strongly denies allegation of 2020 incident NFL reviewing under personal conduct policy 2022 season served 11 game ban for violating conduct policy faces three active lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct

Starting point is 01:24:21 settled 23 claims in 2022, faced no criminal charges. That's a rough graphic for you to interrupt the football game with. Yes. Now I heard that when they restructured his contract, they did something with being able to cut him for moral issues. Yeah, so this summer that report came out

Starting point is 01:24:39 that they took the clause out where if he gets another suspension by the NFL, he can be cut and not have to pay him as much He's on a zero tolerance policy for committing sexual assault. Yes, let that be a lesson. It's finally enough is enough Yeah after 22 allegations, um, is it 22? I thought it was more I forget how many might be in the 30 Well, I don't know by the time this podcast comes. Yeah, we learned our lesson last week Yeah, the Browns didn't look great. Their offense didn't look great. Jerome Ford looked okay at times, but they're not back where they were last year.

Starting point is 01:25:12 They don't look like they did with Flacco. No. It's just such a... You can't go with a different vibe than Joe Flacco to Deshaun Watson. Bad vibe. It was also Deshaun Watson's birthday this weekend, which the Brown Browns pointed out by they put out a post on Instagram and on Twitter It seems mean because you know the admin knew exactly you're walking happen with the comment section I don't know. Maybe maybe that's in his contract. You have to wish me a birthday

Starting point is 01:25:36 I could assume doing that I could see that too because there's no other reason for them to just subject themselves to the worst possible Reply. Yeah, it's like, well, I guess they know it's going to do numbers. They just stood out there and took it. It's going to do interactions. Why didn't memes? Why? Why isn't that part of our social? Yeah. Why didn't we wish him a happy birthday? We should start wishing to Sean Watson. Please put that in the calendar. Yeah. For next year. Make sure you wish him a happy birthday on the part of my take socials. I think he has this blocked. That's doesn't matter. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. Still wish him a happy birthday. He's we're getting too close to the truth Tell the truth

Starting point is 01:26:10 All right last game of the early slate Chargers 26 Panthers 3 This is exactly what we expected to happen it happened Jim Harbaugh has completely changed the culture now Now, the Panthers are bad. Very, very bad. Worst team in the NFL. Jim Harbaugh has completely changed the culture of the Chargers to the point where Quinton Johnson is catching footballs. Yeah, crazy, right? But it actually is. And I know, so I think there's some new, not new listeners, but also new just people to Jim, like my love affair with Jim Harbaugh, which has been very long time. I had to have it kind of under wraps when he was the Michigan head coach, just because I don't

Starting point is 01:26:54 like Michigan. Now that he's back on the NFL, I'm going to be posting every single thing the guy does because I love him to death. But the like his backing of Quinton Johnson this summer, I feel like gave Quinton Johnson the confidence to be like, you know what, I can catch and that is my job. Yeah, let me go do it. Yeah. You need somebody else to believe in you sometimes. And that's what happened. He, and he said it after he's like, everyone just piles on the guy and he's a good football player and he's going to be a good football player for us. It's like Jim Harbaugh has changed the culture where Quinton Johnson is catching football. And now Justin Herbert is accepting pregame DAP ups from Jim where he just beats

Starting point is 01:27:28 the shit out of his shoulder pads and his back. The look that that Harbaugh gave him after the first week where he's like, no, we're not hugging. This is what I do to quarterbacks for every game. And then week two, it rolls around and Herbert's ready. He's ready. He's ready for it. He's ready to contact now. Yes. Harbaugh has been so much fun to watch. Now, if you're a Panthers fan I do have a stat that will make you feel better I feel like we should give them a little bit of positive try to find something okay that Panthers fans can be like mildly Okay about yeah

Starting point is 01:27:54 So this is the stat to make you feel better the week if you're a Panthers fan Bryce Young had 38% more passing yards in the first half than Trevor Lawrence had mmm So Bryce had 22 yards passing the okay Trevor Lawrence had 16 yards passing in the first half than Trevor Lawrence had. So Bryce had 22 yards passing in the first half. Trevor Lawrence had 16 yards passing in the first half. That's big. Bryce Young did that. That little hop he did to try to get it over the lineman was so cute. It was. I feel bad for Bryce Young. I feel bad for Adam Thielen. They're a tough watch. They're a really, really tough watch. Yeah. There's not a lot to look forward to about those games. The Panthers didn't get a first down until their fifth drive of the game. And then when

Starting point is 01:28:32 they got the first down, the very next play was a Bryce Young interception. That's sad. Now, is there something that Carolina Panthers fans could do to do like a reverse major league to make their owner, David Tepper, move the team out of town? Can you tank property values in the stadium area? He's probably looking for a new stadium anyways because that's what owners do when they get a team. He's just getting restless.

Starting point is 01:28:53 He's like, well, this toy isn't working. We'll get a new one. It's not anything about how I'm running the team. It's just the walls that my team is forced to play in. That's what's making us bad. But if I was a Panthers fan, I would strongly consider trying to force, to ask him move the team. Yeah, this is bad. He said, asked about his confidence. Bryce Young says his confidence is in the Lord. At least he's getting it from somewhere.

Starting point is 01:29:15 That's good. Yeah. I just, they're a tough watch. And that was- In God's hands. It's in God's hands. That was the worst matchup for them because the Chargers are a man football team now they ran the ball 44 times Jim Harbaugh just I mean he yeah the team is Jim Harbaugh's identity He's so so in wrapped in everything that he asked the equipment staff this week to give him Justin Herbert's shoes Whatever sneakers he wears because there's not a gene in his body I wouldn't immediately trade for talking about Justin Herbert.

Starting point is 01:29:47 That's amazing. That was his quote. That's amazing. I love it. I love that he's wearing his shoes now because it probably makes him feel like a quarterback too. Yeah. He's like, I'm a real ballpark.

Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. So he is keeping the team out East. We talked about this on Thursday. Yep. So they're staying in Charlotte this week. Body clock. He said, bring the board games for the trip.

Starting point is 01:30:04 I looked into it. I found out the board game they'll bring along it's I think this was on the athletic it's called chameleon it can be played by anyone from three to eight players one player is secretly designated as the chameleon a code word is also selected the other players must figure out who the chameleon is before the chameleon figures out the code word that sounds like a fun game oh so Harbaugh loves it. Wolf. Yeah. Werewolf. Yeah. Sounds a little bit like secret wolves, right? Werewolf. So they're going to just be playing chameleon all week, which should be fun. Just a little boys trip. And Harbaugh was like, I love it. It reminds me of just being back in training camp doing this road trip. I get it. I get

Starting point is 01:30:40 it for him. But also like training camp was like three weeks ago. Yeah. Four weeks ago. But he misses it. He misses training camp already. He misses it so much. He's a football guy. Yeah. Now for Bryce Young, he did, uh, he set a record today. So he threw for 84 yards on 18 completions, which is record low for that. Yeah. Completions. Panthers haven't led a game in 272 days. I guess 273 now It's a long time without a lead So I have a question for you big cat. Yeah, can the Panthers should the Panthers bench Bryce? so

Starting point is 01:31:17 Why would you because he's not very good, but what's the point? Are you trying to win football games? Well That's the point? Are you trying to win football games? Well, that's the problem. In theory. Theory. But I, you would have, if you, if you're just this bad all year, yeah, you'd have the number one pick, then you can draft a quarterback of your choosing. Yeah. I see what you're saying. I do think they would maybe fuck around and win a couple games with Andy Dalton. I guess the question is what because it It sucks for Bryce Young I don't know if he ever would have been a good quarterback, but it doesn't feel like it's ever gonna happen Carolina I feel like that part is is kind of done because even if he plays the rest of this year

Starting point is 01:31:57 There's no way the Panthers are gonna be good enough where they're like we're gonna keep him going forward Especially if they have the number one pick, okay, so where they're like, we're going to keep them going forward, especially if they have the number one pick. OK, so Canales was brought in to fix Bryce Young, right? Because he's obviously still a very young quarterback. They still probably hope that he can be good. You can't give up hope here, too. Yeah. So they hired a head coach to fix him.

Starting point is 01:32:17 He's not playing well right now. Would he play better if he was benched right now and got to sit for a while and watch Andy Dalton? Would that improve the long term prospects for Bryce Young? I don't know if it would. I don't know. I don't know what I don't. I don't think anything would improve. Maybe. I guess you could try it. Bryce Young? But then, but then Andy Dalton, then you come into the problem of Andy Dalton plays better.

Starting point is 01:32:42 Everyone in the locker rooms like his guys better. Yeah. You try to go back to Bryce Young and everyone in the locker rooms like what the fuck are you guys doing? Like these are we're putting our bodies on the line and you're you just benched the better quarterback and then Bryce young Understands that the better quarterback is 80 Dalton and then he feels weird about play I mean he probably feels weird about his play right now. Yeah, I mean it sucks. It's a bummer. I feel bad for him It's it's a tough watch. Yeah, he he didn't complete a pass's a bummer. I feel bad for him. It's a tough watch. He didn't complete a pass over 10 air yards and he only attempted two of them over 10 air yards. Yeah. So he's just not even... Was one of those acute little jump? It might have

Starting point is 01:33:16 been. No, that was kind of a... Sideways. Yeah. Yeah. Side lines. Yeah. Tough watch. The last thing is I think you posted this as well PFT, but the hardball quote that we got to play for the people Yeah is so so good I'm gonna play it here. Let's see. I'm gonna find it. Let me get it I love guys who like football and guys who like football they like me back and I like them back And guys who like football, they like me back. And I like them back. Even guys that don't like football, they try to avoid me because I'm always trying

Starting point is 01:33:50 to get them to like football more. One of the best quotes ever. I have a rollback question for you, Piaf. Rollback.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback.com, promo code take. Let me play it one more-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts rollback.com promo code take let me play one more time then I'm gonna ask my question okay I love guys who like football and guys who like football they like me back and I like them back and even guys that don't like football I mean

Starting point is 01:34:19 they try to avoid me because I'm always trying to get them to like football more. Without saying too much, I think we should remix this and make it our new intro. Okay. What do you think? I'm in. Yeah. I mean, it's the perfect quote. He literally made that quote for us.

Starting point is 01:34:39 I like guys who- He described our podcast. One of my favorite parts about that quote is he said, I love guys who like football. So you don't even have to love football for Jim Harbaugh to love you. You just have to like football. If you like football, then he loves you. And then later on in the quote,

Starting point is 01:34:54 he almost says even guys who don't like football, he was almost saying like, I like those guys too, but then he stopped himself. He was like, well, no, they probably don't like me because I'm always trying to get them to love football. Which is so applicable to all of our lives where it's like people who don't like football. You know, everyone's been in that social setting where it's like you find someone who doesn't like football and you can get through maybe a few minutes

Starting point is 01:35:17 of conversation, then just boom. Like, wait, so you don't, what do you do on Sundays? Don't watch football? What's your life? What do you do? What do you care about't what do you do on Sundays? I don't watch football and what's your life? Yeah, what do you do? We care about what do you love? We might as well just be from different countries. I don't understand this I love guys who like football. There should be a dating app for just guys that like football. Yeah It's called it's called Yahoo Fantasy football. I like that. It's called DraftKings DFS, which do we how do we finish? Did I win? No, I was close. Yeah, how do we finish did I win I Know I was close. Yeah, how'd you finish dead last? Oh That's great setup. I was closest close as fuck you were should we should we remix that and make it an intro? I'm already we should Marty working. Oh, yes, good. I like it. Let's go. All right, so that's a

Starting point is 01:36:02 I'm excited about that And he's our good friend Fuck it really is like it's so refreshing that I can just embrace and enjoy everything that Jim Harbaugh does again Because it was like this when he was with the Niners and then when he went to Michigan I was like well, I can't I gotta take a step back here because I gotta play them and all that shit and Now it's we're back. It's great. I would watch a hard knocks on just Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. Just like a nature show. Yeah. Like a guy in a khaki outfit just following him around like he's a wildlife photographer. Yeah. Observing Jim and talking about all the things that Jim's doing. Yeah. I did see

Starting point is 01:36:37 a very funny a Michigan fan it seemed like online basically trying to get it was very clear is one of those people that only watches college football. Yeah. They're like, it took Jim Harbaugh two games, two weeks to tie Urban Myers wins in the NFL. He was in the NFL for a while, and he won a lot of games before that.

Starting point is 01:36:59 Yeah, I like that though. I love, because usually it's all the other way around, when it's like NFL guys parachuting into college football, and then then talking about those players and then to see it come the other way That's nice. Yeah, we all have a guy was watching the Chargers game like wow, Jim Harbaugh is a pretty good NFL coach I you know a lot of times these guys don't translate to the NFL but Harbaugh does So yeah Panthers are the biggest plumber and I don't know what the spread I who they play next week Oh there I think they're playing the Raiders whose line is it? Anyway, where is it? Can you find it? Yep It's in Las Vegas. I believe I don't did the Panthers are gonna get to a point if they keep losing like this

Starting point is 01:37:38 Where their spreads are gonna get they're gonna be like college football spreads. Can you imagine? Yeah Okay, I'm gonna say Raiders... minus seven? I'm gonna say Raiders... minus... seven and a half. One of you is correct. Which one?

Starting point is 01:37:58 Pick out. Seven. Alright, so it'll probably be seven and a half. Let me see, I'm gonna look up the Panthers schedule real quick Let's see where find their win not only find their win, but I want to see how outrageous These games are gonna get a nice five and five split next week, too Yeah, I like that Bengals week four

Starting point is 01:38:20 Is gonna be a pretty that's gonna be like a ten. So they play the Chiefs Looks like after Thanksgiving. I Mean that's mean that could be like a 17 points. That's mean. Yeah, they play the Eagles at the Eagles Cowboys that those could those could be creeping up 14 17 points then you're gonna be like I have to bet them. Oh shit. What I didn't realize we had the Tony Rich Caleb Williams Bowl next weekend. Yeah, dude. That's what I've been saying Hello, I didn't realize that was all leading up to this now now the now the feelings make more sense I was saying that I'm like in it's going to be no matter what it's gonna be hell for me for four hours because

Starting point is 01:39:03 It's just gonna be hell. It's four hours because it's just going to be hell. It's going to be hell. Where have you been? Sorry. That was like a top. That was like a point of conversation. I didn't realize it was next week. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:12 That's the entire point behind the Rich stuff. Yeah. But I'm saying all this stuff knowing there's a chance that Anthony Richardson could beat Caleb Williams and I'm just going to, I will have to deactivate my Twitter. Yeah. All right. Let's get to, uh, we'll do a couple ads and then we'll get to the afternoon games and talk Sunday night football. We'll get back to the games in a second. They're brought to you by simply safe. Have you ever felt a sense of unease when you leave your home wondering if everything is going to be safe while you're away? I know I have, but it wasn't until recently I had a neighbor that had a

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Starting point is 01:41:38 Let's talk about it, big cat. Ooh, so Chiefs outlast the Bengals. Bengals looked a lot better. Yep. A lot better. Yep. A lot better. Joe Burrow looked okay. Yep, Joe Burrow looked okay. I was like very, walked away from that game saying the Bengals that, I thought the Bengals might be in trouble. I was teetering on that with the wrist and

Starting point is 01:41:57 everything and the water bottle. I do not think the Bengals are in trouble. They just couldn't beat the Chiefs because the Chiefs just are inevitable. Yeah, they're inevitable. A million times. We had one of the coolest interceptions ever by the Bengals. A one handed grab down the sideline and it was like this incredible play. Cam Taylor-Britt and then like three plays later, Joe Burrow fumbled in the end. Everyone stopped playing and the Chiefs ran in for a touchdown. Yeah, Cam Taylor Britt and then like three plays later Joe Burrow fumbled in the in the end Everyone stopped playing and the Chiefs ran in for a touchdown Yeah, and Cam Taylor Britt was the guy that was talking shit about Xavier worthy Yes, Xavier worthy didn't beat him Patrick Mahomes had what like 154 yards passing today? Yeah, so they limited him a little bit

Starting point is 01:42:38 Xavier worthy with two for 17. So he was kind of right, but there's there's an issue that I've seen creeping up and it showed It said today, maybe you'll agree with this that last flag of the game. Yeah So he was kind of right, but there's there's an issue that I've seen creeping up and it showed its head today Maybe you'll agree with this that last flag of the game. Yeah a Lot of people have chiefs derangement syndrome when it comes to the refs Oh, yeah a lot and it's a it's an issue so Occasionally the chiefs will get calls and I think the biggest difference is with the chiefs if they get a call that's borderline They make you pay for it and they end up winning the game usually if they get one thing that

Starting point is 01:43:07 goes in their favor. This was a perfectly normal call. And then you see all the people like across the NFL media landscape posting still shots of what appears to not be pass interference. Correct. It was very clearly pass interference. Yes. Listen, the Chiefs, we can complain about the Chiefs being thieves of joy

Starting point is 01:43:27 But it doesn't always have to be the refs gave a win to the Chiefs It's it's even one I completely agree with everything you said it's one more than that because it is the Bengals Yeah, and listen, we love Joe burrow. We spent some time in Cincinnati Bengals fans for the most part are Very good people. They also probably lead the league in Online like screen grabs posting them constantly this all started maybe with the tomorrow Hamlin stuff and like it's not fair They were doing a coin flip all this shit but Bengals fans and Chiefs fans is a very combustible

Starting point is 01:44:03 situation and then you add a defensive pass interference, which I agree was, it was pass interference. Uh, and you have what's going on right now where we have the minute you have reply guys, uh, quoting the NFL rule book, you know you're in too deep. Yes. And we have, and then I don't know if you've seen this PFD, but, uh, Bengals fans have now also, and I'm not, I'm not judging Bengals fans cause I would do the same thing. So I just want that on the record that Bengals fans, you have every right to be upset about this maybe for like two days.

Starting point is 01:44:33 Then you got to get on with the season. Uh, they found a holding call or a holding call that was missed on that same play. So they're now screen grabbing that and throwing it under every single reply. Uh, but you're absolutely right. The Chiefs are very very hard to beat So if they get any call late in the game, whether it's warranted or not Everyone's gonna be like this is bullshit. The Chiefs already are really good. Why are we helping them out at all? Yeah, and if you remember that game last year where my homes did not get the call correct and then after the game hackers Yeah, and then after the game he was like, no, I'm not gonna blame it on that. I'm not gonna complain about

Starting point is 01:45:07 that. I'm gonna yell my right wide receivers. Yeah, like sometimes, sometimes the shit doesn't go your way. And I get it too, if you're a Bengals fan, because you're furious, you played good enough to win, you lose at the last second. So you are and you can find all the screenshots that you want. If you just look at every play, you just pause it, and it'll be blurry enough and take a picture and be like, Look, our guy got held on that one. You didn't call it. You have to have so you can't just be like, okay, I admit it. We lost great game chiefs. You have to fight it for a little bit. Yeah, you have to, you have to fight it and you have to be like, well, we didn't really lose the refs fucked us. Yeah. And

Starting point is 01:45:36 that, that'll make you go to sleep a little bit better. If you can be angry at somebody, that's not your own team. Right. Um, or just, you don't, you want to delay accepting the fact that the chiefs are just really good when it counts. Right. And they just are. We should note, there was that one game where he did complain. Yes.

Starting point is 01:45:51 Remember he went up, I think it was after, I think he went up to Josh after a game and was like, that was bullshit and you know it. He apologized afterwards. Yep. But that was heat of the moment. Bengals fans are in heat of the moment right now. You get a 48 hours, go off, say everything you want. You it's

Starting point is 01:46:08 gonna make you feel a little bit better. It's not gonna change anything. Yes. Screen grabbing, but it will make you feel better. Screen grabbing the NFL rulebook is a wild move, right? Especially the one that was going around, which was like, you don't have to call pass interference if the defenders making a normal play the ball, and they're not like trying to move the other guy the way way then you could say that about almost every interference you'd be like I think he was trying to make a play on

Starting point is 01:46:29 the ball and here's a pathetic fact about all of us and I'm talking to all the listeners all of us in this room and this is just the truth when you get screwed in a game like this it when you think you get screwed in a game like this because again we don't think that they got screwed that was the right call when you think you get screwed in a game like this because again, we don't think that they got screwed That was the right call when you think you get screwed in a game like this Sometimes the best coping mechanism is to get in a hours long Argument with a random person on Twitter. Yeah, that's what you do You just you you go back and forth with someone and you try to well actually them and you never get to an actual point

Starting point is 01:47:04 That makes any sense whatsoever and you never get to an actual point that makes any sense whatsoever and you guys will never see eye to eye but it's it's kind of it kind of brings off the stress and you're Like hey, you know what? I feel better that I just had a Like two-hour argument with with fart sniffer 69 and I don't even know where he is Yeah, then you just get really mad at fart sniffer Yeah, right and you're like this guy in, this guy on line. And then when he- Then you block him. Then when he makes a good point, you just stop responding to the conversation.

Starting point is 01:47:29 Yeah, agree to disagree. And move on. But I- I- You can see how the Chiefs are just morphing everybody into, like, a conspiracy theorist. Yes. When they win these types of games. Right. It's Chiefs of Gate. Right.

Starting point is 01:47:39 Is what it is. And they're just like, this cannot be how the game ended. You must have cheated. I'm gonna get to the bottom of this it's kind of like the Super Bowl against the Eagles yeah where there's two things can be said Kim can can exist in the same exact universe where a penalty can be a penalty and you can also be mad that the game ended on that yeah that's the truth like the Eagles penalty was a penalty and we all said well that was a really underwhelming finish for a Super Bowl

Starting point is 01:48:07 This game was a really good game That was hard fought back and forth and having it end on a penalty When you when it felt like the Bengals had the Chiefs on the ropes that sucks and guess what Bengals? I feel like even though you're owing to and you got it. You got to start winning some games Which I think you will a tough game on Monday. I think you you you proved that now that Joe burrow is back You guys are the hardest out for the Chiefs That's a fact you guys like they are the hardest out for the Chiefs If you ask the Chiefs if you ask Chiefs fans if you ask Patrick Mones

Starting point is 01:48:40 Yes, Andy Reid you hit him with true serum. You're like what team do you not want to play It's the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, I think I think the Bills could be up there in that argument But if they haven't I've been a big game If you ask the Chiefs, they'd say we'd much rather play against the Bills right then against the Chiefs It's not that the Bills are like head and shoulders better But I think right now I would put them easily ahead of the Bengals. Yeah the Bengals I want to game you want a game Yeah, what is going on with T Higgins? I don't know. Do we know? Is T Higgins? Yoshi's next up though. No, Yoshi's, he's fun. Yeah, he's good. Very fun. But Jamar Chase is in T Higgins is out. It's exactly the opposite of what we thought it would be like, like two weeks ago. Yep. So I don't know what's

Starting point is 01:49:18 going on with T Higgins. I think Jamar Chase and T Higgins from everything I understand, they just flip flop with who's got the headlines this week that they're upset. That's what I'm saying. Like it was, it was Jamar Chase until the last week of training camp and then T Higgins has an injury and then some people are saying it's not a real injury and T Higgins had to come out last week and say, I'm not faking it. It's real. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:49:39 Can Bengals fans explain it to me? Because I've, I've heard conflicting reports, but essentially like what I understand is this all just goes back to the fact that Mike Brown is poor by owner by NFL owners standards. Yeah, he's poor. He's like he doesn't have the money to throw at everyone. And this is what ends up happening. He threw all the money at Joe Burrow, which he obviously should have. But now he's got to pay everyone else and it's difficult. And Jamar Chase says that he's not going to negotiate this season. He feels like they lied to him. Oh, no.

Starting point is 01:50:11 In the process. That's not good. So it's not good. It's not good. Whatever's happening. And since then, and I think it does boil down to the fact that he doesn't like spending money. Yeah. You forced him. He had his back up against the wall and had to give a massive contract to Joe Burrow. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:50:23 And so now he doesn't have any money for his receivers. Yeah, this is why you just should never draft really good players because then you have to pay them. Yep. Fact. What a curse. We also have gotten a little too far with everything that Patrick Brahms does is the best thing ever because did you did you hear that clip that Tony Romo went Patrick Holmes, he just missed Travis Kelsey, he threw it under through Travis Kelsey. It went in the dirt and Tony Romo, I got to find the quote, he basically was like, that's a winning play. He did that intentionally. It was so not intentional, but another Chiefs derangement where Patrick Holmes could have an incompletion and Tony Romo would be like, that was awesome. Green stuff, dude. I've been watching quarterbacks that throw that incompletion for the last 25 years.

Starting point is 01:51:07 There's nothing special. No, a lot of guys can throw that in completion, but not like Patrick Holmes. Yeah, he it was, it was great. I, I, I feel like the Bengals are going to be okay. I really do. I watched that game being like the Bengals are going to be fine. They do have to win a couple games It's this it's the September Bengals. Well, yeah, they they always get to this point where they're like now We got to win some games. They always start owing to is the third straight year starting owing to I think yeah I might have to just bet on them to win the Super Bowl. They it feels like they're probably a good price probably good Yeah, yeah, they they started in a bad spot

Starting point is 01:51:42 it's crazy to say that the Yeah, they started in a bad spot. It's crazy to say that the Pittsburgh Steelers are 2-0 and the Bengals and the Ravens are 0-2. Yeah. Both badly need a win. Who do the Bengals have next week? Bengals have the commanders. Oh.

Starting point is 01:51:54 Winning in football. Then they badly need a win. It's a LSU quarterback party. Yeah. And I'm going to be staring at it. And they play, so the Bengals have the Commanders and Panthers next two weeks. Yeah, this feels to me like I'm about to get my ass kicked. So this should be, the Bengals should get right-ish.

Starting point is 01:52:10 The only good news is that it's not the standalone Monday game. Yeah, double header. I feel like we play worse when we have the nation's undivided attention on our shitty team. By the way, update on Dylan Raola cosplaying as Patrick Mahomes.

Starting point is 01:52:27 I feel very confident in my position that it's weird. What did he do this week? He did the exact replica of the run to the end zone to pump up the crowd doing this. Yeah. And then he did the jump that Mahomes does where he does a jump squat. And it was weird. Okay, that's strange. It's strange, but if it works, but if it works.

Starting point is 01:52:47 I know knock on the guy. He's a really good quarterback. It's weird what he's doing. Do you feel confident in it? Hank? Are you still? Oh, you have to defend it because of the Tatum Kobe stuff. I don't think it's that weird. I think, I think, wait, all right. So you just let me hear, hear it, hear you out. out quarterback before the game goes up to a student section gets them pumped up and stretches. Okay, if a quarterback ran to the end zone and did the Let's fucking go like every quarterback doesn't know no you're reaching no Hank well, first of all, you don't watch college football, so I can't really. I mean, you don't even know what you're talking about. I saw the same highlight you saw on Twitter. And you don't think that that's weird? If you put them side

Starting point is 01:53:31 by side, I'm sure if you did that with a million other quarterbacks, then you add in the hair and the facial hair. If the hair is trending hairstyle, I'll agree with you. If the facial hair and the, and the regular hair hair weren't if he had totally different hair Totally different facial hair didn't wear the same shades and he did the pump up. I would agree with you like that's alright, whatever That's fine. It's everything Max I feel like you're he's a fuck. It's so weird and you know that it's weird Hey, you know look on Hank's face knows that he knows that it's weird. Of course it does He's playing devil's advocate, which I appreciate

Starting point is 01:54:05 It's it's what you do if you're an 11 year old in your backyard They're not whether the starting they're just a brassica. Who's very he's a good quarterback. That's the craziest part be yourself What happens if he gets drafted? I know like is he gonna is he gonna still act like Patrick Mahomes when he's in the NFL? No, that'll be electric video though. He shaves the head and isn't he like gonna Number one. Yeah, yeah like it's not a knock on him as a person. It's just weird. I think it's I mean, it's so weird I'm ready to say it's a knock on him It feels like he wants to steal his life. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird So it was that talented mr. Ripley? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:54:45 Is that the one where he just becomes people? Again, Hank has to defend it because of the Jason Tatum, Kobe Bryant. Yeah. Just kids, just kids. Just kids, just kids. I don't think it's that weird. Can you imagine? Again, it's like you want to be the best quarterback in the world, why not emulate the best quarterback?

Starting point is 01:54:59 Hank, you are yourself, you are a starting quarterback for Nebraska. Why don't you just be yourself and be the best quarterback in the world? That's what he's doing. No, no, that's not what he's doing. He's getting the crowd pumped up and stretching What if it's just coincidence what if it what if he doesn't even know that he did kind of try to say that he's like I oh he had a quote where he's like, yeah, I was playing baseball when I was growing up which again, okay He's like I didn't really watch football. So I don't I or what do you say? No, he said that he was like, why do you wear number 15? He goes? Oh, yeah was big Tim Tebow fan Yeah, right. Yeah, right. It's like you were no, it's Patrick. Like it's Patrick. Yeah

Starting point is 01:55:39 What if he like what if he starts dating a girl that looks like Brittany? It's he both he was like his brother act like like Jackson Yeah memes There was also a story that he transferred to Nebraska because the colors of the jersey look more like Look more like the chiefs and Georgia does that is that true or is that something you read? It's just a rumor and there were a lot of people saying okay I Or is that something you read just a rumor and there were a lot of people saying okay? I Like that rumor. It's good quarterback. Yes yourself. You guys are haters. I think it's very funny

Starting point is 01:56:14 It's definitely weird, but it's also funny. It's cool Start doing it. You should not my homes fuck that guy. Yeah. You should start dressing like Shannon Sharp. On clock would. That would be cool. On clock would be awesome. Yeah. Double on. That'd be sick.

Starting point is 01:56:33 All right. Next game. Yeah. We I'm happy we are in complete agreement that the world has chiefs derangements. It is. And it pains me to say that because like, yeah, sometimes the chiefs, they beat teams that I would prefer to beat the Chiefs. I'm not saying I'm a Chiefs hater because I'm not, I respect the Chiefs, I respect greatness in all its forms. Uh,

Starting point is 01:56:52 when they beat the Bills in the playoffs, sometimes I'm like, yeah, I wish Josh Allen was able to beat this team and go to a Superbowl. That'd be fun. So I'm not a Chiefs, I'm not a Chiefs hater at all and you're forcing me to have to show every show you like open your eyes. This is weird to complain about that passenger fear and skull I also think the Chiefs fans have a little part in this they have to do their part where they have to To kind of morph into Patriots fans and just circle the wagons Well, no, no

Starting point is 01:57:19 Just admit like you're you're better than everyone and you're not gonna bother bother with the peons of the NFL because that's the best. The one thing that I can't stand is when chief standards are like, well, we had so many bad quarterbacks before. Yeah, no shit. Everyone has had bad quarterbacks. You have the best quarterback. Just tell everyone that you're better than them. I would respect that more. Don't get in arguments. Don't say, oh, well, what about this call and this call that went against us? No, no, just say, we're better than you. Yeah. That's what you need to do, because you're

Starting point is 01:57:49 going to be the villain no matter what. You win enough that you have become the villains, embrace the villain role, and just be the villains of the NFL. Yeah. It's crazy, because there are thousands of unique photo shops of refs wearing what appeared to be Kansas City Chief's gear. Usually, it's like one or two. Yeah. There's like the ref doing the Lambeau leap. Yeah, there's

Starting point is 01:58:07 that one. But with the Chiefs, it's seriously I've seen thousands of them that are all different. Yes. Yes. Okay. The Cardinals Rams we can do quickly. Kyler Murray was sensational. Yeah, he was really good. Marvin Harrison Jr. Awesome. called it on Friday. Yeah. Awesome. First quarter for him is the first win over the Rams at home for the Cardinals since 2014. Ten years that I seriously I Kyler was he played perfect football to start that game. Yeah. And he was just hit. He was making the right run like running at the right time, passing at the right

Starting point is 01:58:43 time. Marvin Marvin Harrison deep balls James Connor might be my favorite running back to watch just because of how he runs It's crazy that he can run that upright and just like roll over people. It is crazy It's so much fun when he gets the ball with a head of steam and he's just standing He looks like a different creature. Yeah out there. They're not used to hitting a guy that's upright like, yeah, he shouldn't be that tall. Like they don't make running backs like that. Yeah, it was, it was a fun game. If you're a Cardinals fan, if you're Rams fan, you're in trouble, you're in trouble. Cooper cup. I don't know if he's actually injured or if he like tweaks something. And then Sean McVeigh smartly was like, don't

Starting point is 01:59:20 play for the rest of this game. Yeah, you don't have to hurt yourself anymore. We're already banged up to hell. So he didn't play in the rest of this game. Yeah. You don't have to hurt yourself anymore. We're already banged up to hell. So he didn't play in the second half. And the Rams are already crushed by injuries right now. It feels like 2022 Rams when they had that year where it was just everyone got hurt at the same time, and they were fucked. Yeah, your offensive line is not looking great.

Starting point is 01:59:39 Two receivers that are injured. I felt bad for the Rams in the second. It looked like McVeigh was just trying to get the game over. Yeah. Like, let's just turn the page on this one. Yeah. Cause the Cardinals just rolled them. And I, I, I've said it, but the Cardinals are my fun watch. They're fun. They're very fun. Watch. Tyler Murray, when he's healthy is so much fun to watch. And that loss at the bills week one looks like maybe the best loss of the year so far. That was a fun watch. Great loss. Yeah. And it was a fun game. And you didn't have to show Marvin Harrison. Yeah. You knew they were going to get him. Save it for week

Starting point is 02:00:08 two. Yeah. And then speaking of fun watches, the opposite of that was Steelers Broncos. Yeah. This feel like the Steelers are like that every year. Yeah. Not a fun watch, but they win. But then you add in Bo Nix. Yeah. Who has struggled. Still time, but yeah, it was it was it was tough to watch Justin Fields was good for a half Yeah, what was his first half? He I think he had like a hundred yards in the first half and then ended with 117 Yeah, they just ran the ball in the second half. They didn't even really look like they wanted to score at all Yeah, and their defense is so good and you knew going into this game that Bo Nicks would be in trouble Sean Payton good and you knew going into this game that Bo Nicks would be in trouble. Sean Payton gets the double whammy of what the fuck are you doing where he kicked a field a sad field goal because the Broncos have never been shut out at home.

Starting point is 02:00:54 So that felt like he was kicking the field goal for that specific reason. That one came, let's see, it was 10 minutes left. Or sorry, it was 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter down 13 to nothing. They kicked a field goal. And then I guess because he kicked that first field goal, he did have to kick the second field goal. And then with what, two minutes left, 154 left, he kicked it deep. He did not do an onside kick.

Starting point is 02:01:24 Yeah. So he only likes his prize onside kicks Yeah, there's somebody out there online. Jacob Sanderson wrote this up pretty good. I think he said Sean Payton made me suffer today I'm gonna make you suffer with me So this spells out pretty good Sean Payton had four possessions that reached or began in the fourth quarter today Starting down 13 to nothing on possession one Payton passed up a fourth and six from the 16 with 10 45 remaining in favor of field goals, make it 13 to three in exchange for giving up the ball. His team went from needing two touchdowns to needing two touchdowns. Fortunately for

Starting point is 02:01:56 Peyton, he did get the ball back. But this time he chose to punt on fourth and eight from the 33 with 757 remaining, locking himself into a best case scenario of getting the ball back with about five and a half minutes remaining down two possessions. Again, he needed his defense to either stop punting, stop either punting or missing on fourth down. So Payton decided on the second straight possession that being down 10 instead of 13 was worth not having the ball and losing two plus minutes of the game.

Starting point is 02:02:21 On possession three, Payton faced a fourth and five at the 11 with one 55 remaining. Once again, he chose the path of the foot, making it 13 to six and forgoing a chance to play to win regulation and to need only a field goal on his potential next drive. So Sean Payton was playing extend the game until the game ended. It's crazy. So extend the game works if, if you end up extending the game enough to win the game. Yeah. But if you lose all that time by trying to extend the game, you're actually shortening the game.

Starting point is 02:02:46 It felt like Sean Payton has a secret clause in his contract that who's the Walmart family, the Waltons? The Walton family. Yeah, the Waltons gave him a special clause in his contract being like, it doesn't matter wins and losses, we just need to have the ball with a chance to tie. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:03:03 And that's how he played the game because they did actually get the ball back with nine seconds left. People watch the game ball with a chance to tie Yeah And that's how we played the game because they did actually get the ball back with nine seconds left people watch and a chance to tie You know what if people are watching on TV all the way through the fourth quarter, that's good for business Yeah, that's good ratings some Jerry Reinsdorf shit You can sell advertising in the fourth quarter for way more than you sell it for in the first court first quarter. Yeah Yeah, I guess it's smart They also did a terrible towel knockoff giveaway at the game today Which I feel like teams are oh for lifetime when they play the Steelers and they try to do their own terrible towel giveaway

Starting point is 02:03:31 Yeah Because what they try to do is they try to drown out the towels in the stadium with their own home team towels and you don't Piss off the terrible towel. No, you just don't do that. No, it was bad Steelers are Well ahead of schedule for their eight and nine or nine and eight, if you guys like. So, Russie is still out. He was inactive, but also the emergency quarterback. Again.

Starting point is 02:03:55 Again today. Jussie's 2-0. Jussie's 2-0. Do you stick with Jussie? I think you got to go Russie. You think you go Russie? I think you got to go Russie at this point, go Russie? I think you got to go Russie at this point because if you go if you go Jussie again You're essentially playing a game of Russian just Justin roulette. I guess with him because if you put Justin back in

Starting point is 02:04:14 Eventually, he will have a good game that they win because of him And if that happens before he has his bad game, then you got to keep going with Justin Yeah at that point you can't switch to Russie right now Justin has played poorly enough where you can make that switch right now Yeah, and then maybe if Russell Wilson struggles, then you put Justin in yeah So I think you got to go back and then maybe you go back again. Yeah switch back and forth Yeah, and there's also there's always one play in every Steelers game It happens every week where they run like an outside stretch play

Starting point is 02:04:43 Against the Steelers defense and they don't block TJ Watt. Yeah. And it's always a four yard loss. And every week TJ Watt makes a tackle easily in the backfield on the running back. Yeah. And it almost gives him like a freebie that just gets him even more juiced up. But why does every single team run that play? I don't know. He's such a monster. He is a monster. He's an absolute monster. Yeah, their defense looks awesome. I have a Bo Nix stat for you. Oh no. Bo Nix is 11 of 36 for 212 yards and four picks on passes that are more than five yards downfield. So more than five yards downfield 11 for 36 for interceptions on those. Not very good. And he is like, he's treated like a coach's

Starting point is 02:05:26 son. Yeah. Sean Payton looks at him like he's his son. Yeah. And we never, whatever was in that backpack. We got to know. Yeah. Famous backpack. All right. Last game before we do who's back week, we'll talk a little Monday night football as well. The Texans 19, the Bears 13. What would you, Hank, I'll let you decide. What should you like me to do first? You want me to get as negative as I've been getting in the last, I don't know, 45 minutes that we've been taping and talking about other games? Or you want me to do what is trying to be a reasonable stop laughing memes? Memes, you deleted everything on your phone. I haven't done't done that listen we all deal with losses

Starting point is 02:06:07 poorly here I think that's I think that we've learned if we learn anything from from this podcast we all are not great when our teams lose would you like me to get really really dark really really negative or the calm easy like it's gonna be okay let's get dark first and then do the calm at the end and then move on. Okay, so the dark is, Cale Williams is gonna get murdered. He's gonna get killed behind this offensive line. And I don't know how this offensive line is so, so bad.

Starting point is 02:06:37 And we just completely ignored it. It's the old meme, you know, Peney Sewell blocking, throw it to literally anyone. Jamar chase is in completion. He is going to get killed. He got I think there was what was the stat? He got pressured and he did not play well. I want that on the record. He did not play well. He played well for a half. I thought his first half was very good. It was better. What are you doing that face? What was that face? Well. Yeah, I thought he was first.

Starting point is 02:07:09 I thought he played very well in the first half. First Sunday Night Football, first start on the road in the NFL, he played well in the first half. He did not play well in the second half. Still doesn't have a touchdown. Yeah, that's fine. Those things kinda take some time, okay, Max? What was the stat?

Starting point is 02:07:24 I'm gonna find it. 36 pressures on 42 pass attempts for Caleb Williams tonight. And he was getting hit on every single one of them. He was getting just driven into the... He took some big shots tonight. Six, six times he had a semi-clean pocket. He was not... He did not play well in the second half. Uh, I do think he looked better in the first half than he did against the Titans. Calmer hitting some guys. He missed a lot of guys downfield. I, you could say that's pressure. You can also say that that's just what it is. I don't know. I, I just don't fucking know. Okay. I don't know. Can I tell you something? It's all fucked up. It's all fucked up right now. I tell you something what watching the game I thought that Caleb Williams was like probably the sixth or seventh biggest concern. Yeah, I appreciate that

Starting point is 02:08:14 So I appreciate that I appreciate that being honest name a couple. Okay I wish I wish we had done wish, so we taped the first 10 games, the recap of the first 10 games before Sunday Night Football. If you're, you've probably already tweeted this at me, but everything we said about Brian Dable and his challenges, Matt Iberfluss is a hundred million times worse. Those were two of the dumbest challenges I've ever seen. I don't know what the fuck he was doing. One was right in front of him. Right in front of him.

Starting point is 02:08:47 You could see him on the sideline, watched the play, clearly two feet down, and then he challenged it because he didn't like it. And then later on, challenging what, the interception? Yeah. Yeah, there was zero chance. Take the flag away from him. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:09:01 He shouldn't have access to that. He's lost flag privileges. He has, his brain for those two challenges was no different than, uh, like my five year old's brain when I watch him do something bad. And then I'm like, why'd you do that? And he's like, I didn't do that. Like you're, it was a five year old brain to try to convince someone that what you just, what just happened did not happen. We all saw it. It, we all watched it happen in slow mo. And then you're like, nah, fuck it. Maybe they'll just look at it and be like, no, it's totally different.

Starting point is 02:09:28 So I listen, every coach kind of has that little bit of, uh, I guess delusion in them where they want bad things to not be true. I think a lot of people have that natural thing. Uh, what separates good coaches from bad coaches is having some sort of system that accounts for that, where you have somebody that's not as emotionally attached to what just happened. Yeah, tell you, Hey, Matt, that's a bad idea to challenge it, you're going to lose a challenge. Yeah. And Matt, don't do that. We're going to lose a timeout. They don't have that in place. That's that's

Starting point is 02:09:56 the concerning part to me. See, I'm borderline thinking like everything's fucked. And everything's fucked. Do you want me to do the positive? Yeah. Okay. So boys, it's the second start. The offensive line is historically bad. People aren't talking about the fact that those two interceptions, he actually made incredible plays to extend the play and then had to throw them up hoping something worked. And the Bears defense is

Starting point is 02:10:29 elite. The Bears defense showed up tonight where they time and time again were put in very bad spots and they kept on answering the bell and kept on making big plays after big plays. And the Texans are a Super Bowl contending team that they went in there and they held them to I think they had one offensive touchdown right. Let's see. Nico Collins. Nico Collins scored. I think everything else was field goals. Nixon did not score. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:10:55 I think it was all field goals. They were all long field goals too. Long ass. We kept them to long field goals. He held them to extremely long distance field goals. Also, you guys have a good kicker. Oh, yeah, Cairo Santos I trust 100% Yeah, kicking has gotten easy for everyone. But yeah, I'm in a bad spot right now I know that this is exactly what people wanted to hear Guess what you got your wish. I'm in a bad spot. I'm in a bad spot because I think it's I'm actually like worried that Even if Caleb Williams, I still believe in Caleb Williams. I don't know if Caleb Williams will survive

Starting point is 02:11:28 Yeah, the offensive line is that yeah, the offensive line was bad on was the second to last play that sack that he took We're Daniel Hunter just landed on him just jumped on like a spider-monkey Time and time again, it was all night. He was getting killed and so he's gonna be very very sore But and also the rush you can run the ball next week Yeah, probably maybe hopefully The worst part is that I think that Hank is gonna be proven exactly correct that like this was a huge mistake having Hebrew flu's come back So

Starting point is 02:12:00 Hank drafted him though and Shane Waldron like I don't know what the fuck's going on with the calls on this like it felt Like every single time it was either a false start or the call came in late or Caleb didn't get it or Everyone was running around and I I don't know if DJ Moore doesn't like Caleb anymore. I'm the I'm everything's bad. Okay, everything's bad Yeah, what was up with him like not right? I don't know. I was tired. Okay, everyone gets tired on Sunday nights. Oh Tired right now. You're half asleep. Not as bad as last week. Uh, there has been like, I think a 75% increase in fall starts in illegal formations across the league.

Starting point is 02:12:34 This year it's unbearable to watch. Yeah. Yeah. The, uh, the play calls were getting in late. It seemed like they were up at the line of scrimmage. People were confused. Caleb like knew what was supposed to happen But he could only like point and grab people so much until the clock was expiring It looked a little bit out of sorts But the good news is this is the Texans the Texans are very good

Starting point is 02:12:55 And it's not as bad as some of the Bears primetime games have been in recent history It was pretty bad that second half was really tough to watch. I kind of understand why memes cried. I'm gonna cry Can you guys just make me a promise to just don't call him a bust until I say he's a bust I don't think he's a bust. I don't think he's it's only it's only week two. It's only we That's the only thing you have to say you it's we Wanted one. Yeah, I think I think you're like he Looked bad, but like it's only week two and he's a rookie quarterback I'm going against smiling. Yeah

Starting point is 02:13:28 It's true like people like people are listening and they just watch that game like Caleb Williams did not look good But it's week two in the second in the second half, but like he didn't look like a fucking superstar He's averaging a half of a touchdown the offense is averaging a half of a touchdown per game right now That's not that's not good, but it's only week two. That's the only thing that you got to say It's only week two. It's only week two. You can't judge you can't judge an entire guy by two weeks Can't judge him. Let's not he's looked bad For the second half and the whole first no no fat bad bad Max. He was good in the first half What is what what defines good? Like they come to the Titans game. One touchdown in the first half. But

Starting point is 02:14:12 he looked good in the first. But like you see you guys, you guys have a wrong definition of good right now. But it was compared to last week. But like that. How are his handoffs Max? Yeah. Yeah. I don't care about his handoffs. I want him to throw the ball. I want to have time to throw the ball. Correct. And that is an issue for sure. But like let's not let's just not sugarcoat it. That's why I don't care. Drinking the second half. I don't know. No. I don't think he looked very bad in the second half. He looked fine in the first like he didn't look good in the first half I didn't have a touchdown. You can't say that a guy you let it touch that drive

Starting point is 02:14:54 One in a whole half of football. That's not like a good half of offensive football Good to admit to we're looking to have 14 points as an offense Max is Max is very upset because We hold Jalen Hurts to quite a different standard on the show than anything else. No, it's just that we hold all quarterbacks to a different standard. But I understand it's a rookie, but let's call it spade to spade. I agree. I was judging his first half based on the Titans game. But that's not what you want to do.

Starting point is 02:15:21 I understand. Well, it's baby steps. So I was basically saying compared to the Titans game, he looks like the greatest quarterback ever. Then in the second half, he looked almost worse than the Titans game. So we've gone backwards. I admit to two weeks. That's all I'm not going to sugarcoat.

Starting point is 02:15:38 And the Colts defense tanks. I am not sugarcoated at all being like, Caleb, look, awesome. I just thought the first half he looked. Well, PFT tried to say that the sixth the most Concerning thing. Yeah, it's the first no like no bears What are you most scared about I'll give you my offensive line right now you my top future of the bear You can fix off the a line very quickly. Six max. Fixing a quarterback. Not easy. Well, coaching, hold on coaching. Yes. But he all

Starting point is 02:16:12 talks the same time. His brain is going crazy. Offensive line is my first concern right now because it directly impacts Cale Williams growth and health. That's why they're fair. But that's why that the, fair. That's why. The quarterback is the most important thing always. I just don't know who would have played well behind that line tonight. That's fair. I don't.

Starting point is 02:16:35 And I'm not saying that he's looked good, cause he's not. In week one, I didn't think the offensive line looked bad, but it didn't look as bad as it did tonight. And I said C kale played really bad Tonight he there were times where I was like this looks a little bit more comfortable and then it just all went to shit So yeah, I'm in a fucking world to hurt. I've all my worst fears. It's all happened faster than I ever expected and It just sucks everyone's just I... I think I tweeted, this fucking sucks, and maybe three minutes later, I had 550 replies and they were all nasty.

Starting point is 02:17:11 Very nasty. Very nasty. It is funny because it's like the bus meme where big cats one and one, he's on the sad side of the bus. I'm one and one, I'm on the happy side of the bus. Yeah. It's just about... It's about the fact that it was a prime time game. It was about- I hate primetime games. Yeah, primetime games are mean. They're very mean to do to especially a rookie quarterback, especially a team that has lost a lot of Sunday night football games. It's mean.

Starting point is 02:17:34 Eight in a row. It's very mean. And I didn't like the Bears uniforms. I hate the fucking orange uniforms. I didn't like the traffic cone helmets. The best way I could describe the Bears orange uniforms when they wear them is like it looks like a Seven-year-olds playing mad and they're like, let me just do this combo of cool uniforms. It's bright. I like bright colors They're just the Bears have a great uniform. Why why fuck with it? But yeah, everything's bad. Everything sucks Caleb does not look good pretty much at all Offensive line is terrible defense is great. So it's Bears football. We're back in the same spot.

Starting point is 02:18:06 First half was okay. We really needed that, we really needed that punt block. Needed a punt block, need Devin Hester to come out of retirement, and then we might be cooking. Maybe Keenan Allen plays next week? Keenan Allen would be nice. Did you see how many chains, he had like- A lot of chains.

Starting point is 02:18:20 People were saying that Keenan Allen is overweight, I think he just might weigh in wearing all of his jewelry. Yeah. I think that adds like 15 pounds This fucking sucks Happened so fast, okay, it's two weeks in the season. I told you this weekend was gonna be shitty Bookends I'd book ends of shit This is a dumb sport to even be a fan of I just want to talk about football and hang out with Jim Harbaugh yeah I want to root for anything now I like to when memes I should do the memes thing and just

Starting point is 02:18:57 delete everything that was sounds better and I also don't like when Max is like sitting in like he's kind of talking down to us a little bit Which he has every right to do very much Hank always talks down to us But we expect it Max's Max is like trying to snap us into reality Yeah, and it's hurts. You guys are trying to get to a winning place You're sounding like losers This is a hard part PFT where they can just do this to us Yeah, we're you know for I know you're feeling a lot better, which I understand just saying data This is a hard part PFT where they can just do this to us. Yeah We're you know for I know you're feeling a lot better which I understand just saying they had those handoffs. Yeah

Starting point is 02:19:32 Don't patronize me it's a deals just look better patronized him. No Hank. It was one handoff It wasn't all his handoffs and you haven't even seen it. So you're talking about your ass has a way possible to find have literally impossible To find has there Have any of the quarter first-round quarter? I saw a touchdown pass. I Think Bo Nicks may have thrown one last week. Did he I think he threw I think he threw one late Yeah, cuz this would make me feel a little bit better where it's like dude It's maybe it's just really hard right now for rookies to come into the NFL. No, he did not throw All right, so no no rookie quarterback has thrown a touchdown yet

Starting point is 02:20:06 Wow That's good. I Think no, that's I think that's good. We should see if they do what what are you shaking your head about Max? No, yeah, I was I thought that he did but I was shaking my head. I wonder oh he ran one That's what I'm thinking. Oh, he ran one. I wonder if Draftkings can do a bet next week cuz oh no you play a mini night Yeah, I just say it would have been great if we did a race to first touchdown. Yeah, I feel like but you get juicy odds on Jaden I

Starting point is 02:20:36 Don't know kill might never throw a touchdown I I honestly think that at this point it feels like there's a force field and we're never gonna get there Chris Collins worth even said it where he's like they haven't really run any plays in the red zone So they don't know what to do. I think I think it'll happen It's hard not to overreact to it because he did get his ass kicked tonight. Yes, I kicked you You got some good defense like some exploitable defenses coming up. Yeah, and also are the Bears defense is very good It's going to keep I mean the Bears got the ball back with a chance to win the game with a minute and a half left yeah their defense is awesome what are you laughing about memes you're fine I'm looking at the

Starting point is 02:21:12 schedule you got a couple of Colts Rams Panthers Jaguars you're gonna be fine he just got to find it Cardinals yeah the Texans are good they're probably gonna win the Super Bowl all right um max let's talk Monday night. How are you feeling? Would be a shame if you guys lost after you've been belittling us. I wasn't belittling. I just wanted to have an honest conversation. And I think it was good. I think it was constructive. Did we not have an honest conversation? I said that he was bad. No, we did. I think we had a good conversation. That's all I wanted to do.

Starting point is 02:21:44 And in relation to last week, there were moments where he looked good because he he was bad. I know we did I think we had a good conversation That's all I wanted to do and in relation to last week There were moments where he looked good because he was so bad Yeah, you you just got to like hang on to those like those plays that were like, oh, that's a good play That's a good throw. Yeah, you'll go back and watch the highlights and you'll just like look at those plays where it's like This is a really good throw someone will make like a like a alt 22 really good throw. Someone will make like a like a all 22 breakdown of the good plays that Caleb Williams did. And then that's what you will think of going. No, no, no. They'll be a Bears guy who like goes and someone made that for me please. Someone did that for Jalen hurts last week. Okay. So that's why I was like, oh yeah, the picks weren't his fault.

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Starting point is 02:23:31 168 hours after issuance for additional terms or responsible gaming resources see dkng.co slash FT ball Are you nervous about this game? I'm nervous about every game. Are you going to the game? I am going to the Hopefully I'm going to but are. Are you going to the game? I am going to the hopefully I'm going to. But are you nervous or are like I said scared? You asked me before the Sunday football. I was nervous. I said scared. I think we're six point favorites right now. Yeah. So definitely not scared. We should win the game, but we look sloppy on we won week one against the Packers but weird game the field was shit It's sloppy win. I would love if we finished tomorrow

Starting point is 02:24:11 Winning by like 20 points. That would be great. I have a prediction I think I think defense is gonna eat. Oh, I think you guys are gonna get after Kirk cousins. That'd be great I would love that. Yeah, he didn't look like he could really move around I got deep into some Falcon's film breakdown Twitter last week. Apparently they're having Kirk Cousins stand with his right foot back when he gets snaps and the entire rest of his career he's going left foot back

Starting point is 02:24:36 so he might be uncomfortable, might not be fully healed. I feel like your defensive line gonna tee off on him. I would love that, I would love that. I think you guys are gonna win. I think you guys are gonna win by... Easily. Do you know what jerseys you're wearing? I do not. That's kind of significant. That would be important. Because if you're wearing... You're

Starting point is 02:24:57 not wearing Kelly Green, right? No, that would be everywhere. Hopefully we're wearing black. I would like black. Um, okay, so yeah. Good luck. You're going to the game. Are you tailgating? Uh, kind of. Yeah, kind of, yes. Are people going to be, uh... I mean, you're the king of Philly. You're gonna get... people are gonna be like, Max, Max, Max. I can't find my flight info right now. Oh, no, no. That's kind of stressful. Is that why you said you might be going? Yeah, no. What do you mean? You can't find my flight info right now That's kind of stress is that why he said you might be going yeah

Starting point is 02:25:27 What do you mean you can't find your flight info? It was like booked for me, and there's no like confirmation No, I'm what it'll be fine. It'll be fine. Okay find your flight, and then you're going to the game Yeah, yeah, no I got to figure that out be real shame. So an early flight Hank Hank is such a he's this. This is the bullshit about Hank though is that he he's so removed where it's like I I lose a game memes loses a game max if you lose Monday night. It's like ruins your week Oh, that would be yeah, Hank. It doesn't matter to him. That'll be a sad. He's great He can just fucking just sit up in his tower and just count the banners.

Starting point is 02:26:06 Oh, Dillon Rayl is cool and count the banners and just fucking chirp at us. Because Hank has the reassurance of the universe that eventually things will swing back in his favor. We don't have that same luxury. No. We have to trick ourselves into thinking that it's happening right now for us all the time. And he just won an NBA final. We have the reverse luxury.

Starting point is 02:26:24 That's the worst part is that he just won his number one championship. Yeah. You know what I do? We're going to reap. Here's the harsh reality that me and Big Cat have to live with. When you have a quarterback, when he releases a pass, we feel an impending sense of doom every single time.

Starting point is 02:26:42 I yearn to have a quarterback that when the ball comes off their hands, I get excited. I'm like, something good is going to happen to me. But until I get enough of that positive reinforcement for the rest of my life, I will just be thinking something bad is about to happen every time we attempt to pass. I don't approve it otherwise. I don't remember the last time I watched a quarterback for one of my teams Drop back in a clean pocket like perfect five-step drop step up

Starting point is 02:27:12 like 30 yard dime down the middle of the field the guys wide open. Yeah I don't even know what that looks like and I do mean earnestly like I want for you guys what I've been able to experience want for you guys what I've been able to experience. But we are the reverse where- But I can't sit here as you guys try and justify these terrible games and be like, oh, everything's great. You also have to be real. I never said everything's great. I never said everything.

Starting point is 02:27:35 Show me where I said everything's great. Never said everything's great. I'll take nine Super Bowls, you take three. Well, that was exciting. We have the exact reverse where he knows that everything will work out for him We know no matter what happens. We'll just end up back in square one Yeah, I'm literally at square one where the Bears defense is elite and everything else sucks square one

Starting point is 02:27:57 It's just nice to be able to write really care. I was saying this earlier right now. It's it's gross But like things are turning out like very similar everything like The Patriots look kind of good the Bears and commanders both look pretty bad the Eagles one look good, but like Not good at the same time The jets are the jets are the jets pretty hard Well, I mean that is the truth memes. Yes, or the Jets are the Jets. The Jets sing pretty hard. What the fuck? Well, yeah. I mean, that is the truth, memes. The Jets are the Jets.

Starting point is 02:28:26 We're the best. The only big winner is Shane. Yeah, Shane. Shane owns the podcast. Shane's a Chargers fan. He owns the podcast. And it's because he's got Harbaugh. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:28:35 All right. Let's finish up the show. We got Who's Back of the Week. PFT, you're going to do a quick ad before we go to Who's Back of the Week. Before we get to Who's Back of the Week, it's brought to you by Coors Light. College football is never short on intrigue, especially when they're iconic rivals, but you can add to the excitement on Saturdays. Coors Light teamed up with DraftKings for the free-to-play college football pick and

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Starting point is 02:29:25 I've seen when the college football rivalries that you're watching heat up. For example, like the Apple Cup, Hank was locked in and joined a Coors Light during the Apple Cup. Choose chill with Coors Light and DraftKings. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door with Instacart by going to coreslight.com slash take. 21 and over eligibility restrictions apply void where prohibited see terms at draft kings.com Slash Coors light pick them celebrate responsibly Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado Okay, Hank who's back of the week laid on us My back of the week is the sphere. Yeah. Yeah Usb at this you whoa. Hey now you have see at the sphere

Starting point is 02:30:06 Feel like that's gonna be the future of UFC. It was I think it should be the future of all sports. Yeah Basketball game at the sphere. That's where the the NBA Cup the finals should be held in the sphere It looks so sick every time I see this fear. I'm like, why do I not just live there? Why don't I just figure out a way to get a job at the sphere? I I just live there. Why don't I just figure out a way to get a job at the sphere? I Think you could do basketball, but that would be insane. Why not? Yeah, why not? It's definitely gonna distract the players I guess maybe not. I don't know honestly who cares. No, you could probably black out This is like the one-on-one aspect of fighting. It's like yeah You're like you have to focus on the guy in front of you because you're trying to choke you out

Starting point is 02:30:45 basketball you're like you have to focus on the guy in front of you because he's literally trying to choke you out. Basketball, you're moving, you're looking around, there's like a little more moving pieces but it would be unbelievable. Yeah, it'd be great. You could do the first half and have the sphere light up like it was one team's home arena and then second half have it be the other teams. I'll watch any event that they have there.

Starting point is 02:31:02 Yeah. Yeah. How big is it? Could they do a football game in there? Do you've been I haven't Know no football in this fear probably not. We got to build a bigger sphere. Yeah, would you need a bigger sphere? It looks awesome. Well, the fights good I missed it. I sure Sean lost. Oh There was maybe one of the gnarliest cuts I've ever seen. You see? Oh, I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:31:27 I saw that. Also shout out our guy, Robbie Fox. Yeah. Broke news on Friday night. Did you see that? I did. Okay. Um, he broke news that Michael Chandler is going to fight in a fight before he potentially

Starting point is 02:31:42 fights Conor McGregor. So it was going to be Michael Chandler, Conor McGregor. Michael Chandler is sick of Chandler Conor McGregor Michael Chandler's sick of waiting for Conor McGregor Well, I think they're you see Michael Chandler our good friend McGregor What they're like holding him holding him out? Why because he has two fights left on his deal and then once his deal is done then he can obviously make another deal So UFC is delaying him so he can't Do that. Do you think it might also be that Conor McGregor really likes to party?

Starting point is 02:32:06 Yes. Cause. Probably somewhere in the middle. I don't know how that guy keeps going on camera, zooted out of his mind. Yeah. Allegedly. Push.

Starting point is 02:32:18 Just stop going live Conor. He's so paranoid to just be on, he's just on TV on the moon. You know, it's great breaking news by Robbie. He also got Dana gave him a 20 grand for his wedding. Yeah. Well, no, Robbie won it. Tunnel of chaos. Yeah, tunnel of chaos. Tunnel of chaos happens. Yeah, tunnel of chaos. I want to go back to the tunnel of chaos.

Starting point is 02:32:39 Me too. The Bears, the Bears don't lose in the tunnel. They at the sphere, they could definitely set up like 10 TVs right? You could watch 10 NFL football games at the same time in the Sphere on a Sunday? Yeah. They should do that. They should do that. That would be sick.

Starting point is 02:32:55 Alright PFT year who's back? My who's back of the week is bands getting into fights on stage. Yeah. Jane's Addiction got into a little little fracas. I think that was Friday night. Yep Perry Farrell went after Dave Navarro as the song ended through maybe the wimpiest least Intimidating punch of all time. Mm-hmm when he punched him off, I guess they've kind of been like Biting at each other's heels for a while Perry Farrell's been a dick on stage a few times

Starting point is 02:33:20 I didn't actually know that James addiction was still a band. Yeah, I didn't I I just thought that Dave Navarro, his full-time job, was just being cool with tattoos on TV. Yeah. I thought that's what he got paid for. And also being married to Carmen Lecter. Are they still married? No, for like a year. Yeah, that was awesome. She was one-one for a little bit. Yeah, long time. She was great. For me. Well, it was like her and Pam and Pam were like so some McGuire So I like Pam but yeah, both good. Yeah, both really good Starsky and Hutch elite

Starting point is 02:33:54 Yeah, sneaky. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, they got into a fight and it looks like the band's breaking up now Damn, so maybe they took the bullet for Oasis. Maybe Oasis is gonna be just fine just fine yeah you and your own gonna do that this weekend that's a good but I should I should try to fight ron on stage yeah in Austin go viral yeah that would be awesome we are playing in Austin on Friday night free show West 6th Street hell yes come out check it out pop punk excited to be back in Austin I'm gonna eat so many breakfast tacos love that put it on your Mount Rushmore. Drink a couple margaritas. All right, my who's back. We talked about it earlier, but I got to pick a pink team. So let's do it. I think- Right now? Yeah. Oh, they're going to wait until Wednesday. No, we got to do it right

Starting point is 02:34:36 now. We have O and 2 teams. Falcons weren't- were the Falcons- could the Falcons be in there? They could. No. Yeah. If you're doing it right now, then no. No, but if the Falcons be in there? They could know. Yeah, if you're doing it right now No, but if the Falcons lose Monday night, then the Falcons are going to lose Monday night. All right, so I think don't say that What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna for the first time ever I'm gonna put three teams in a hat and I'll just pick them out. Is that fair? Yeah, so lottery ball. Oh lottery ball. Okay, we do lottery ball I am NOT gonna pick the Cincinnati Bengals. I believe in Joe burrow. That'd be disrespectful to Joe burrow I think the three teams are the Baltimore Ravens Yeah

Starting point is 02:35:15 Again, by the way, I just wanted to clear it's gonna be from the Like right here up the tip of my pinky like right here up the tip of my pinky so are you gonna go to the joint no or where's the joint here no it's gonna be like half of my nail got it yeah but but also the flesh oh yeah yeah yeah I still don't really know we have wherever the bone I don't I still know you legally can do this are you gonna take off bone I'm gonna not take off bone where's's the bone start? I don't think that's possible I think you would have to take off. I'm gonna take off some bone because if you take off just does that regenerate?

Starting point is 02:35:53 I don't know. I don't like talking about this like me. I just go full line full no Hank I'm not cool. No, don't you can't go full line, but it's a pinky better No, don't you can't go full-line, but it's a pinky bed. I look kind of fucking hurt the nail would hurt Yeah, all right. Well, I'll consult a doctor, but it's not I have the right to go half nail up If I if a doctor's like hey, man, just go to the line or just take the whole thing. I'll just do that either way Every year I pick a pinky team. They're not gonna win the Super Bowl. This team is not gonna win the Super Bowl I believe they're not gonna win the Super Bowl Don't do the Ravens. Don't do the Ravens. Why the Ravens go win the Super Bowl. This team is not gonna win the Super Bowl. I believe they're not gonna win the Super Bowl Don't do the Ravens. Don't do the Ravens. Why the Ravens could win the Super Bowl? I don't know if they can. Their offensive line is bad. What are the other two teams? Well, I was gonna do Ravens

Starting point is 02:36:35 Falcons and Rams What Rams and Ravens would be scary. You think so? No, Rams is, Ravens is scary. I mean the Rams, they just got their ass kicked today. Yeah. Alright. I should just pick the team that I think is not going to win the Super Bowl. Yes! I don't know why you're like...

Starting point is 02:36:58 You're right, because the LOPFT got in my head. This is like an amputating part of your body. I know, I know. The whole point of this was that it's a team I confidently think will never win the Super Bowl this year. The reason I told you, the reason I told you won't when it came to the Ravens, because the Ravens definitely have a chance to win the Super Bowl. Correct. And I was just trying to... I don't want, I like don't want this to happen. I know it's getting reversed in everyone's head where they want me to pick a team that will definitely win the Super Bowl. It's like no, the whole point of it was that I, it started with the Texans that

Starting point is 02:37:24 one year where I was like the Texans aren't winning the Super Bowl. It's like, no, the whole point of it was that I, it started with the Texans that one year where I was like, the Texans aren't winning the Super Bowl. Cut off the tip of my pinky if they do. Then they went on this crazy run and got to the playoffs, but I still was right and I still believed in it. Okay. So I think I know Big Cat pretty well. I'm translating his brain. Uh, he does think that the Ravens could win the Super Bowl. Correct. So it would actually be against what this pick is. He does not think that the Rams can win the Super Bowl. I do not think the Rams can win the Super Bowl. You're very sure that the Rams can win the Super Bowl. I do not think the Rams can win this Super Bowl. You're very sure that the

Starting point is 02:37:45 Rams can win this. I guarantee the Falcons don't win this Super Bowl. Just pick the Rams. Rams are Falcons to me. But Falcons are not owing two yet. Yeah they are. No they're not. Yeah they're owing two. You guys got this Max. I hate this. Alright, final say, I'm gonna take the Falcons. If the Falcons somehow win this game on Monday night I have to also have the Rams. That's fair. So you'll have to So you're big on your yeah, yeah Eagles fan tomorrow. Yeah, the Falcons are not winning the Super Bowl Yeah, like they're not the Falcons you guys agree. Well just because of the fact that they're Falcons They could have you could switch their uniforms to the Chiefs and you'd be like, well, no They're not when the Super Bowl cuz they're the Falcons. They could have, you could switch their uniforms to the Chiefs and you'd be like, well, no,

Starting point is 02:38:25 they're not winning the Super Bowl because they're the Falcons. Yeah. Let me look at the RAM schedule real quick. I could never see the Falcons winning the Super Bowl. Well you could see them winning a Super Bowl during the Super Bowl. No. In the process of winning it. When you're up 28-3, is one team winning?

Starting point is 02:38:46 Winning in the Super Bowl. The Falcons, the Falcons were, they at one point were winning the Super Bowl. This is really stupid that I do this anyway because like eventually I'm going to have to do this. Yeah, Falcons are not winning the Super Bowl, guaranteed. Falcons are not winning the Super Bowl. That's, I believe it. End the season. But if they win on Monday night, then it's time. Then I have to take the Rams. Yep.

Starting point is 02:39:10 Tip of the pinky. Anything else? Do you have a who's back, Max? Oh, I do want to say who's back of the week. I'm so, so, so excited for playoff baseball. That's not back yet. Yeah, but I can feel your anxiety and I'm excited to. Nothing makes me more anxious than playoff baseball. Yeah, that's not back yet. Yeah, but you I can feel your anxiety and I'm excited to nothing makes me more anxious and playoff base. I know. Because it is it's the

Starting point is 02:39:31 most I mean, playoff hockey. Yes. But playoff baseball, I think is just a different piece that playoff hockey, things happen so fast that you can't even register it. Playoff baseball, you just sit there and you're like, well, here we go, like another pitch, another, you just have so much downtime to like, let it all wash over you. Every pitch feels like 20 minutes. Should we all bet on the Phillies with him?

Starting point is 02:39:56 I bet on the Padres, but I can also sprinkle on the Phillies. I'm gonna bet on the Phillies with you. Why can't I, can I do that? Sure. I mean, Dave's already on the Phillies. So it doesn't matter at this point. Yeah. All right. Maybe I'll just watch. I'll just bet him game

Starting point is 02:40:12 to game. I'm on the pods as well. You are? Yeah, let's go. So what's the number? Well, I had that it's the first time winner from like, oh, I forgot about that. I put it in forever ago. But remember, he did that bet what team to win the World Series for the first time are the Brewers in the playoffs? Yes, so Brewers pods To the Brewers just clinch

Starting point is 02:40:32 They might have the Cubs just kept on losing games Rockies Mariners and Rays are not in it correct So Brewers are pods. Yeah, what were the odds on that one? Plus 900 all right good luck. It's pretty good. That's going to be great. That's going to be fun. Shane, congrats on 2 and 0. You're the king of the podcast. Well, also Max. Max is 2 and 0.

Starting point is 02:40:55 Yeah, Max is 2 and 0. And I have the 5 minutes. Stop it. All right, good show, boys. We'll talk college football on Wednesday. Numbers? 9, 3, 8, 20. show boys we'll talk college football on Wednesday numbers nine three eight 20 did you not pick a number yet wait what number did you pick they got I haven't oh three 56 I don't understand why you keep doing the number thing with me I

Starting point is 02:41:18 already I already won yeah I don't either I don't know why I'm doing it either. Yeah. I have no idea. Congrats on the win, Pug. There's a number, there's a ball up there. There's a ball up there. What uh, what, what, what, what, what number would that have been? It would have been 83. What uh, what, congrats on what win

Starting point is 02:41:42 for Pug. Uh, Eagles. Oh, yeah. You guys are jerks. We it comes from a place of pain. You get that right? Yeah. Like it's pain. 56 20 bang damn it like it does it really at this point this podcast is I don't really know what to do Oh you guys because I'm just a winner. I'm just a winner I'm specifically just a winner. All right grass max. Yep Congratulations Maxwell I'm specifically just a winner. Love you guys. All right. Congrats, Max. Yep. Congratulations, Maxwell. So So So So So So Thanks for watching!

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