Pardon My Take - NFL Week 2, Fastest 2 Minutes, TuAnon, The Cardinals Have Life Plus The Waterdogs Won A Championship

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

We start with the Fastest 2 minutes. Bears get crushed by the Packers as always and the game finishes as we start the show. (00:02:17-00:08:29) We then recap every game from Sunday (00:08:29-00:16:21) Dolphins 42, Ravens 38 (00:16:21-00:27:44) Jets 31, Browns 30 (00:27:44- 00:41:01) Patriots 17, Steelers 14 (00:41:01-00:50:41) Lions 36, Commanders 27 (00:50:41-01:00:11) Bucs 20, Saints 10 (01:00:11- 01:07:23) Jaguars 24, Colts 0 (01:07:23- 01:16:49) Giants 19, Panthers 16 (01:16:49-01:24:33) Rams 31, Falcons 27 (01:24:33- 01:33:31) 49ers 27, Seahawks 7 (01:33:31-01:40:16) Cowboys 30, Bengals 17 (01:40:16-01:45:04) Cardinals 29, Raiders 23 (01:45:04-01:48:41) Broncos 16, Texans 9 (01:48:41-01:53:24) We finish with Football guy of the week (01:53:24-01:57:31) and who's back of the week including a report from Billy on the Waterdogs Championship (01:57:31-02:11:59).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, week two of the NFL season, it was a crazy Sunday. We saw some insane comebacks, some stinkers, some good games.

It was football. We're gonna talk about every single game. We're gonna break every single game down, including Sunday Night Football Bears Packers. Bears are hanging on for their life, so you'll hear some live updates at the beginning of the show. We're gonna do Boomers. We're gonna do Who's Back of the Week.

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isn't it by Barstool Sports? Welcome to part of my take presented by Game Time, the exclusive ticketing app of Barstool Sports. Make sure you're getting your tickets with Game Time, the best app out there. Today is Monday, September 19th, week two. No, go, don't get hit. We start in Baltimore, where the game opened up

with Devon Duvernay. Running like a racehorse for six, Lamardi Gras Jackson took the top off the defense and showed them some titties. But in the words of my colleague, Lee Corso, not so fast, my friend, as the Dolphins mounted a furious fourth quarter comeback. Bartender, waddle service, make it a double.

Ty Greek Hill was the hero, and that's not Sotsiki sauce in your underwear, Dolphins fans. You're just excited because your team is two and O. Dolphins, 38, Ravens, 35. In another witching hour stunner, Job Flacco has been tested by God, as the Jets aren't just delivering migrant workers this week. They're also landing in Martha's Wynyard.

Nick Cage Chubb scored three touchdowns as he starred in a new movie, the unbearable weight of massive talent wasted on a dog shit franchise. It may be bracency bias, but this Jets team looks like they're in it for the long haul. Jets, 31, the Browns, 30. In Duval, where Trevor Lawrence Fishburne

may tricks us into being good, and Doug P.E. Dietersen had his team taking all the right pills. Speaking of pills, Matt Ryan Braun might want to consider getting a shipment to Peyton Manning's wife's house in Indianapolis, because his three interceptions have Colts fans doing the unspeakable,

missing Carson Wentz. Speaking of missing, I miss my dear friend the Queen, or as I called her, Lizzie Bear. Rest in peace, my majesty. You're absolutely right, Bum. If HGH is out of the question, it may be time for Matt Private Ryan to get saved from the evil Reich.

Jaguar's 24. Colts. Goose egg. And a matchup between two big coaches, Dancy Reagan Campbell, gobbled Ronald Reagan Rivera's D right up. Amon Bra, St. Brown, looked like C-Cup as he dropped a fat pair in the commander's end zone.

The rocket arm, Jared Karabas-Goff, is playing so well he's going to get a bag, and he says he's happy, but we know he's lying. The Detroit Lions might be good. Lions 36. The commander's 27. In the meadowlands, where Daniel Cron said, let's get this bread,

as the Giants are number two and O. Matt Gruehl and Quaker Mayfield have Panthers fans demanding a little more flavor. Say rich homie Kwan Barkley has Giants fans feeling some type of way, restoring the glory of the 80s with a day ball of Coke and Lawrence Taylor highlights. The G-Men take down the kitty cats 19 to 16.

The G-Men are two and O. Over a mile high, where they're calling him Nathaniel Straightjacket because his brain still can't get out of its own way. Don't push the panic Sutton just yet, Broncos fans, as Cortland and Ross hooked up for over half the team's passing yards. The Broncos were in a low-speed chase with OJ, but this time Howard was brought down easily after only seven yards.

Even though the Texans aren't very good, the Mills have eyes as this team isn't totally dead yet. Broncos 16, Texans nine. Out in Las Vegas, where it was a tale of two halves, as the Cardinals look like the Red Ring of Death in the first half, only to play Red Dead Redemption in the second, as Merck Davis had to watch his team get nerfed. Henry Ruggs isn't coming back from the gulag anytime soon.

The game went to overtime, and Hunter Renfro Biden handled the ball like it was a laptop full of incriminating crack nudes, fumbling twice the last one ending the game. And the Raiders get stunned by the Cardinals 29-23. Down to Dallas. It's a bird. It's a plane.

It's Cooperman, as Cooper Rush Limbaugh used his right wing to attack Joe Bidenborough. Micah Allen Parsons' project has his Cowboys defense playing serious ball, and Doran Slantz-Armskog had doubled the sacks of his namesake. Mike Ginny McCarthy won't be singled out this week, as Jerry Jones will surely be taking a trip to the glory hole. The Cowboys 20, The Bengals 17. Standing on a corner,

Jameis Winston down in Nola, such a fine sight to see. It's a pick, my lord, another pick, my lord, another pick, my lord, that's three. Come on, Jameis, thought you got lay sick. You better watch out, don't get your vertebrae braised hit. The Saints don't go marching. Bucks 20, Saints 10. And that was week two of Boomers, brought to you by our friends at Chevy.

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For JD Power 2022, U.S. award information, visit JDPower.com slash awards and check out the new Chevy Silverado. Week two in the books. We are recording this. It is six minutes left in the Bears Packers game. I've gone through the range of emotions. I went from the Bears might win this game in the first quarter to holy shit, like let me crawl under a couch and die, to maybe the Bears have a chance here,

to Matt Nagy just called a shotgun QB dive on the six inch line. So his name is Matt Eberfluss. No, no, I know, I know, but Matt Nagy called him. But that was Matt Nagy. That was a Matt Nagy play for sure. That entire drive kind of gave Nagy vibes, where it's just like, okay, we're going to run, we're going to kind of panic a little bit right now because we can't get a cohesive offense going. So we're going to try to run the read option all the way down the field and hope that they

guess wrong at the merge point every single time, the mesh point. So they did get down the field though, which is good news and they pinned them deep. It was like a very long extended punt field position that got them down down the field. I do want to point out, I saw this fly a little bit under the radar. I think that the Sunday night football account tweeted out the video as well. On the earlier touchdown, Aaron Rodgers went into the end zone and him and his teammates did an extended ayahuasca celebration where they poured tea and then pretended to pass out. Is that something that we should be celebrating?

No jail. There's kids, there's youngsters out there that are watching on television. Last I checked, DMT is still a schedule one narcotic, I think. Yep, facts. Are we going to have kids going into school tomorrow asking their teachers if they can have ayahuasca for lunch? Mommy, daddy, I saw the bad man. He was trying to do drugs on national television.

Instead of saying tomorrow morning, Lego my ego, mom, they're going to say Lego my ego because they're going to have ego death and they're going to just run rampant. And next thing you know, our entire country is going to shit. I mean, it sounds like you finally are kind of waking up to what I've been preaching because it's all God and now here comes the embarrassment. So Sammy Watkins just had like a 40 yard pass. Try not to do any free basing celebrations in the end zone this time, Aaron. Okay, so here's, this wasn't that embarrassing.

I'm just going to say it. It was bad, but it's been way worse. It would have been nice to get 14 points and you still might. It's been way worse. Listen, if you can get 14 points in any loss, you can talk yourself into anything and be like, you know, we had our options here and there. Now, it would be exceptional to get 14 points because the score is 24-10 right now. Yes.

So if we found a way to get exactly 14, that'd be awesome. It'd be awesome. Yes. That's what I'm really hoping for. Now, on that play call when they get down to the like half inch line. Yeah. I hate that play call. Yeah.

I hate it. I think everyone hates it. Why are you running shotgun if you're going to do a quarterback sneak? If you're going to do a quarterback sneak, put them like up the center's butthole at the time that it snapped. And if you're going to do shotgun, let him run, let him stretch the field and maybe have someone he could pass to. I'm just going to say this.

It was bad. It wasn't the worst. I'm thinking about all the times where it's been way worse. This was bad, not the worst. I do have a little bit. Tell me if this is crazy, but a little bit of doubts. Do you know what Justin Fields numbers are tonight? No, I don't.

He's seven for nine. So he's only thrown it nine times. It's bad weather though. Definitely. Like you're going into big cat. You're going into Lambo Stadium, the frozen tundra. You're really thinking that you're going to air it out right now. The Bears are running a high school offense.

Jake, can you check and see what the temperature is? We're not. There was supposed to be rain in the forecast. So maybe it just never showed up. Seven for nine though. That kind of hurts. I feel like seven for nine, 70 yards. I don't know.

Ideally, in today's NFL, you'd want your quarterback to try more. How cold is it? 77 degrees. 77 degrees. So like you can't air it out. You can't be expected to just go out there and play some new fangled mad in video game offense. Yeah. The other spin zone I have is that Aaron Rodgers actually didn't beat the Bears tonight.

It was Aaron Jones who ran 14 times for 134 yards, which is pretty insane. I do think it's cool that Aaron Jones still keeps that that vial of ashes of his dad around his neck. Yeah. That's kind of cool. So every time he scores a touchdown, he brings out the chain. It's like this one's for my dad. Yeah. He's got it right there.

It could be too many men on the field, some people would say. But I think it's, it's cool because I think he used to have it like, was it, didn't he keep it in a bag that was inside of his shoulder pads at one point? Something like that. And then he lost it and they made him transfer it into a piece of jewelry. Yeah. That's kind of cool. It is cool.

And I'm just going to flush this one again. I know this is going to sound crazy because it's a nationally televised game. The Packers are going to win by probably three scores. Justin Fields was seven for nine. It wasn't as embarrassing as I expected. I thought it was going to be far more. There was a moment in the second quarter where it could have gotten truly out of hand. And the only thing that saved the Bears was a couple of fumbles by the Packers

that helped like slow the tide of what was happening. So I'm going to count this as a moral victory, which is pathetic. A first quarter victory, just a little staff for you, PFT. If you bet $10 million on the first quarter Bears money line, you would have won $19 million. Yes, I'm aware of that. Think about that. I'm aware of that.

$19 million. It's going to be weird for me to come tax season. That's quite a hit. It was a good investment. Here's another spin zone for you, Big Cat. So our teams, we don't put our egos. We don't tie those to our teams win-loss records. We would never start out a show bragging about what our records are in football games,

where these guys don't even know that we exist. I care much more deeply about teams that I own. Our teams are individuals that I root for on, I don't know, like an individual sport who might know us and might like us. So like a sport like La Crosse, if we're invested in that, or watching a good friend play golf on television. Yeah. That to me is really what should lead part of my take today.

Personal relationships. Yes. Yes. With teams that we, you know, Aaron Rodgers can pretend that he owns the Bears. I haven't seen any tax filings say that he does. We own the water dogs. Wait, do we have to file taxes for that?

I don't know, actually. If you're listening to the IRS right now, you have to stop listening or else it's entrapment. If you win a championship, you don't have to do taxes. That's good. That's a good rule. Yeah. That's a great rule.

They should actually. Stan Kronke's swimming in that rule right now. They should actually make that rule, at least for baseball, so that some of the owners actually try. If you win a championship, like it has to be a certain way. Like if you, they should make it a rule, like if your team only loses three games in the entire playoff run, you don't, you don't have to pay taxes.

That sounds good. Yeah. I'm sure people will like that. More rich people not paying taxes. But yes, we will, we'll talk about the water dogs. Billy was there. We're going to get to that at the end of the day, or at the end of the episode.

We'll talk about Max, who's on on Wednesday's show. Last thought though, I really do think, and I say this from the bottom of my heart, Aaron Rodgers only having 228 passing yards. He's so washed. That's the under. He sucks. Like that's it.

That's it. That wasn't that impressive. So win for the Bears. But yeah, same old, same old. We suck and the Packers own us. And the Bears probably aren't that good, but they're frisky. They're frisky.

Let's talk about some other games. And we'll see maybe if the Bears have a crazy comeback, I'll react to or at least maybe help us hit the over. Yeah, I'm sad. I am sad. And I just, I did go into the game. The first quarter had me being like, oh, maybe, maybe. Same old, same old.

There's really nothing that's changed. And we still have stupid coaching decisions that I can get mad at. And same shit gets run every year. And we now have gone backwards in passing. Mr. Biskey was like, by the end, was passing like 20 times a game. Now we have a first round quarterback that's passing nine times a game.

It's great. It's not fun football. It's great. We should run. The Bears should run the triple option. People would not be able to defend the triple option. That's what you kind of tried to do in the last round. Yeah, I know.

It's, I mean, listen, the triple option, you can't tell me the teams want to play the triple option in pro football. Maybe pissed off. If you just pull the, you do the thing that like Mike McDaniels doing, where you just get the fastest people in the world on your team. Yes.

Just get sprinters on your team to run the triple option. Sprinters in one full back. Oh, wow. They got a graphic right now. Notable former Bears counting against 2022 salary cap. It was like Andy Dalton, the Keem Hicks, Cleal Mack, Mitch. Foles. Foles.

Yeah, Foles were paid forever. Yeah, it's recolon. Yeah. It's right. It's a rebuilding year. 63 mil. It's a rebuilding year, Hank. It's a rebuilding year.

I'm OK. At least I have the honesty to say that. So do I. Oh, I said it. Rebuilding? Yeah. Look, see, Aaron Rodgers can't even throw a touchdown pass. Even though he has two tonight.

All right, let's talk about the other games. We had a crazy Sunday. Two games that a team that was down 20 points at halftime came back in one. And we're going to start, obviously, in chronological order. But the Dolphins 42, the Ravens 38, this game was, it was a complete tale of two halves. It was Lamar Jackson's show in the first half.

He had 318 yards, three TDs in a 79 yard touchdown run in the first half. It was like everyone on Twitter saying, Lamar is getting his money. Look at this. And then the second half started and actually really the fourth quarter, because it was 35-14 in the fourth quarter. And Tuanan, Tua gets to fucking just have his day.

All the haters and the Dolphins pull off a stunning upset. And Tyree Kill and Jaylen Waddle are absolutely insane. I also love that this counts as a loss for Lamar Jackson. Yeah. Like how much of this loss should Lamar Jackson be responsible for? They couldn't get first down to the second half. All I'm going to say is Joe Flacco found a way

to close the game out. That's a fact. Maybe he should have got rid of them Ravens. But the interesting thing is the Mike Sando stack continues. The one that we discussed last year about the Dolphins. So now it's 19 games in a row where every time the Dolphins play against a quarterback with the letter O in their name, they win and they lose to every quarterback

that doesn't have the letter O. Tua can, yeah. Tua always gets the last quarter. Yeah. And the last name. So today Lamar Jackson has an O. It goes back all the way last year from week one. And now it's two more.

And I think they play Josh Allen next week. So that's a loss. No, that's a win. No, that's a loss. They beat every quarterback that has O. Right. They beat Lamar Jackson. Right.

It's in the last name. Oh, it's only last name. I think it's only last name. Got it. Got it. Got it. I don't know. We're going to have to fact check that.

Yeah. We have to fact check that. OK. So then we'll, yeah, because that will decide where we bet. But Tua, Tua and Don, have your moment because he had a couple of bad intercepts in the first half. Tua then becomes the only two quarterbacks younger than him to have six touchdowns in a game.

Patrick Mahomes and Mr. Biscay, two Hall of Famers. Excellent. Pretty good company. Yep. Pretty good company. Tua also, he was, I think he's the first time that a Dolphins quarterback. It's like pretty much every record for the Dolphins quarterback

is Dan Marino. And so he was the first one since Dan Marino to have six touchdowns, to have like 450 yards. He had an insane day. So here's another record that he set was he became the first Dolphins quarterback to set a new record since Dan Marino. Yes, exactly.

Pretty much. Like he's, he is the, he is the Dan Marino. Like Dan Marino, I love different franchises have one quarterback that just owns every single record. Yep. And look at Tua. He shows up, he's the new hotness. People are debating him.

Some people are calling a backup quarterback. I have believed in Tua. I am a member of Tuanan. And that second half was insane. And we should say Mike McDaniels, he, he feels like, I know this is early, he feels like the real deal. Tyree Kill after the game said it was like he was playing Madden out there.

Yeah. Talking about Mike McDaniels play calling. And then on the reverse side, John Harbaugh said, never did you think we'd have that many balls thrown over our head. That just can't happen. That's not okay. That's a bad feeling.

Yeah. You want to hear some more advanced stats here? Yes. This is kind of crazy. I'm excited for Tuanan. So the Baltimore Ravens, their defensive backs, they traveled a total of 6,131 yards on pass plays. That's a lot.

That's a lot of yards. Like their, their defensive backs ran miles and miles and miles. And it turns out that when you just have two like super, super fast players, a really good strategy is have them run straight down field almost every time. And there's nothing you can do if you have both Hill and Waddle running go routes at the same time. You can't defend that and then cover the crossing routes underneath.

That's what I was going to say. It's impossible to do. He bit Mike McDaniels offense. He obviously does a lot of intricate stuff, but it feels like one of the guys runs a go route and the other guy just runs underneath. And it's like you can't the gravity of Tyree Kill running straight down the field.

Pulls everyone and then Jalen Waddle streaking underneath. He catches the ball. He like that. He had that one where it was, I don't know, probably a 40 yard run after the catch. And again, like to a, I love to a because I just love the story and rooting for a guy who's seemingly a very nice guy that a lot of people shit on.

Okay. The game is officially over. Justin Fields. That's probably why he shouldn't pass. He threw an interception. Was that on his 10th attempt? It was on his 11th attempt. Okay.

Not good. Uh, it turns out, yeah, like the, the weapons that he has now and Mike McDaniel's offense, it's explosive. Like you, I don't know how you guard those two guys at the same time. And to a, again, he struggled in the first half, but he was able to, to write the ship and hit those guys and stride, be accurate.

He's not, he's not asked to throw like bombs, but it was awesome to watch. It was a stunner. Like we turned the game off. We turned the Ravens Dolphins game off because it was a 21 point game in the fourth quarter. They started, they, they scored and they scored again. We're like, wait, we have to, we have to turn this back on.

And the Dolphins are fucking two and O. And they just went to, went into Baltimore and beat the Ravens, which like we all, if you watch that first half, we're like, wow, the Ravens are really like for real. They're back. They're killing the Dolphins. Now I don't know what to make of the Dolphins.

They're a fucking good team. Here's what I'm prepared to say about the Dolphins. They're a good team. They're a good team. I want to get ahead of this take. I don't actually believe in it yet, but it's one that I'm going to squat on for about three months or so.

Once the weather turns cold, I'm going to start buying into the whole storyline of this team isn't built to win in the playoffs. Well, and because they are kind of like, I mean, Tyreek Hill said all of it, like it's like playing Madden out there. And sometimes it shows that like football coaches can make things way, way, way too complicated.

When the best thing to do sometimes is just amass the fastest players that you can possibly find. And then have them run and then have other players try to chase them who are slower. Right. That's kind of what his offense amounts to and get them in space. Obviously, there's stuff that he does

that makes it a little bit more complicated than that. But that's like, that's at the core of what his offense is, which seems very simple. I want to see him run the ball. Yeah. I want to see him run the ball. That's probably not something that they'll have to do for a little bit,

but I can't wait until they break out like the Kandy-ass, like Aqua uniforms. And you've got people actually doing that take of like, I don't think that the Dolphins can win at winter time. I'm 100% on that take. Yeah. It was, it was the Matt Moore game when they went to Pittsburgh.

Yep. And they were wearing the Dolphins uniforms and it was like, he got, he got concussed on that play. It was like, you can't show up to Pittsburgh with those Kandy-ass uniforms. You can't wear Aqua. No. And go north of the Mason-Dixon line.

And I don't really know what to make of the Ravens now because that was, you always expect the Ravens to have a good defense. And obviously Kyle Fuller tore his ACL in week one, which hurts them. And you expect them, especially when they have the lead like that to be able to protect a lead. Maybe it was just one of those freaky games.

But I'm a believer in Mike McDaniels. He showed up to the game in aviators and like a pink shirt. He looks sick. He's, he's fun. Yeah. He is fun. I hope it, I hope the, I hope we don't have to like have the pendulum swing back on him.

If they start losing, he's not able to, to rally the troops. But right now he's fun to watch. They're a fun team. And two and on gets its day. There were a couple moments in the game where Tyreek Hill was doing the thing that Tyreek Hill does, where after an insanely explosive play where he just outruns everybody,

he goes to the sidelines because his entire body is a cramp. Yes. Because he's got, he's just like one muscle. That's just all over his body. And he always just like, he needs to recharge for a second. Sometimes after plays. But if there really is no way to stop him and waddle, as long as you can throw a pass.

Right. You can't cover both of them at the same time. I also love Tyreek Hill. There's at least like four or five times a game where he's running and he's very covered and he puts his hand up. He's just the always open guy. And you need that guy on your team who always thinks he's open because he's such an electric playmaker.

I mean, they had 32 total targets for the two of them. Like sometimes football isn't such rocket science. Fast guys, guys that are faster than everyone get them ball. Yep. That's it. That's probably why the Patriots often sticks because they do have a rocket scientist trying to figure it out. Right.

Right. Also fun stat two is eight and one against Super Bowl winning coaches. Yeah. So he's a goat killer. He is a goat killer. He's also, so the stats were, he's the first Dolphins QB since Dan Marino in 1995 to throw for 450 yards in the first Dolphins QB

to throw for five TDs since Dan Marino in 1994. So he's, I'm just saying, I know it's a different league. I know everything's changed to passing everything to a to an on. Expect us. How mad do you think Dan Marino is that you never got to play with Chris Forrester as his line coach? Yeah. Seriously.

God, they would have gotten along really well. They would have. They would have. Fast friends. Yes. Also first 21 plus point comeback in the fourth since 2006. It's just the eighth time it's happened in the Super Bowl era. So that's crazy.

If you're the Ravens, is it like all doom and gloom right now? Are you like, our offense kicked ass today. That was pretty cool. I think that's one of those ones you have to just chalk up to like shit got away from us. We got to it. Yeah. Like shit, like shit just kind of got away from us

and we didn't really have an answer for it. We'll have a better answer next week. Yeah. And we won't have to, who they play next week. Dolphin of Ravens. Yeah. Whose line is it anyway? Ravens verse.

Baltimore at New England. Oh, at the Patriots. That's good for the Baltimore. The Patriots do not have two players like Jalen Waddle and Tyree Kill, I'd say. Not one player. So whose line is it anyway? I'm going to say it is Ravens minus two and a half.

I'm going to say Ravens minus four. What is it? Minus three and a half. Oh, no, that's my guess. Oh, that's your guess. All right. Find it for us, Jake. I'm blowing.

Dolphins host the Bills, by the way, next week. Allen. So it's the Bills. No O when it's last game. Yeah. The Packers Bears game just went final. Justin Fields seven for 11, 70 yards, one interception. That's like, if that was the first quarter, it would be decent.

Seven for 11. Like, oh, it was a tip ball interception. We have the line. Yeah. Ravens minus three. Oh, OK. OK. Good pick.

All right. All right. All right. Next game. That seems low. Oh, you're thinking you're thinking Hungry Dog? I know you're thinking to take the Ravens against your. No, I'm not going to do that.

But I would have thought it was more. I don't know. First home game, right? For the Patriots. Yeah. So he's important number. What's the crowd going to be like? I'm saying they're going to rock us.

They're going to boo Bella check. No, no. OK. Yeah. Jets. Same record as you fuckers. Yeah. That's right.

We're all one. We all suck except for every one in one. What else is new? Yeah. That's kind of the story of this podcast. Even Billy joined the one in one squads. Billy is coming back from Philly right now. He will be here for the end of the show

to talk about the water dogs. Hank's saying no. Jets Browns. This game was crazy because the Browns won this game. And then they didn't. They were up. Nick Chubb scores a touchdown with a minute and like 50 seconds left. If whenever it happens and everyone gets mad.

Minut 20 seconds left. Minut 20 seconds left. Whenever it happens and everyone gets upset when a player goes down because a fantasy or whatever. This is why the player should go down. If Nick Chubb goes down instead of scoring a touchdown here. The game is completely over. The Browns are 2 and 0.

The Jets are 0 and 2. Instead he scores the touchdown. Joe Flacco throws a bomb. They get an onside kick. Oh they miss by the way. The K.D. York misses the extra point after Nick Chubb's touchdown. So the Jets score a touchdown.

Get the onside kick. Score a touchdown with like 15 seconds left. Win the game. Complete shocker. Yeah. 0.3 percent the Jets had. I don't ever trust that win probability. But 0.3 percent feels right for down you know 13 points

with a minute 20 and no time. Yeah from week nine of 2001 through week one of 2022. So that's 21 years. Teams had lost 2229 consecutive games when trailing by at least 13 points in the final two minutes. That's crazy. And what else is crazy. This is one of those things that only makes sense inside my brain.

You might agree but I think some people out there understand what I'm saying. When you see the score 30 to 17 that seems like so much more than 13 points. Because it doesn't. Yeah because it jumps to. I think that's the goes through the twos and the ones. Yeah the 0 to 7 the 30 to 17 point differential.

I think that's the biggest 13 point lead that you can have. Yeah. In sports. It's like 31 19. It seems like a ton. 31 19 game over. Yeah right.

Absolutely right. Right. But yeah it was crazy. Chubb should have gone down for sure. And then Kevin Stafansky said Kevin Stafansky he's becoming the new Frank Reich who is now becoming the new Dan Quinn. What I mean by that is like in your post game press conference

is being like this is on me. I got to take a hard look in the mirror. Oh I have some Frank Reich quotes when we get to him. Just being the mirror guy. Yeah. Like I got to take a long look in the mirror. This one starts. It starts with me.

And then you evolve into it starts and ends with me. Yeah. And to that guy he's not there yet but he's saying blame me. Stafansky wants us to blame him for this result. Okay you're an idiot. You should coach your guys to go down. You're a moron.

Yeah. Because this has happened before to the Chubb right. So you should tell him you should have had that conversation. Also you got to change Brownie the Elf. Yep. They tried putting Brownie the Elf in the field. Brownie the Elf is 0-1. Sometimes you got to know when to cut your losses

right when they start. Because right it's bad vibes. As we said he has got terrible ball security. Looks like a chump. Just looks very very much off balance running too high. Not behind his pads at all. I think after this type of loss you have to change whatever you can change.

And you've got a great scapegoat. So if I'm the Browns don't let this opportunity slip away. Yeah do it right now. It's a scapegoat Brownie the Elf as your midfield logo and be like we're going back to the helmet. Yeah. And it was you know the Browns. The Browns have such a history of sadness

that I don't know if you noticed but there was a brief moment that Dwayne Rudd was trending on Twitter. And if you don't recognize the name Dwayne Rudd it was the linebacker for the. I think it might have actually been Defensive Lyman for the Browns. In 2002 the Browns were about to beat the Chiefs with four seconds left.

He tried to sack Trent Green. Trent Green lateraled it. Dwayne Rudd took his helmet off in celebration and through it got a penalty. They got an extra like 30 yards because the game can't end on a defensive penalty. Kick the field goal won the game. Four seconds left game over.

And so Dwayne Rudd started trending and I was like oh shit I forgot. I forgot about Dwayne Rudd. That was a great play. That's Brown's misery that they're like this is like Dwayne Rudd over you know even though there's not one specific point I guess Nick Chubb not going down.

But onside kick we never get to see onside kicks work anymore. It's kind of cool. Also Joe Flacco's back baby. Joe Flacco he did what Joe Flacco does in this game which is he showed zero motion. So Russell Wilson tries to be a robot sometimes but he tries too hard. Right.

A robot doesn't have to try to be a robot. It just is. Yes. Joe Flacco is a fucking robot and when he's out on the field sometimes and it goes both ways because he'll be in the pocket and you'd like to see him panic a little bit

maybe try to escape a sack but Joe Flacco doesn't do that. He just kind of stands there and gets hit. But he is unflappable. So it goes both ways. He'll get he'll be unflappable when he's about to get hit and he'll take some bad sacks

but he'll also just stand there and deliver perfect passes like they were thrown out of a jugs machine occasion. Yes. And he doesn't show any emotion. It's almost like you you walk into like your boss's office and he's filing TPS reports.

You know and that's the that's the he's always looking like somebody is like walking through a parking garage trying to find a lost car and you think he'd be a little happier to be in a game day environment because the story was he said a couple of weeks ago

that his son said that he sucks. Yeah. He's like you don't want to go home. You get fucking heckled at home. You'd probably rather be around the guys. But yeah it's true. He has a he has an affect now where it's like he's just

he's just showing up and clocking in and doing monotonous like Excel form formulas all day long instead of playing pro football. Yeah. He's doing the thing where he's it's kind of like a big inside joke to him where every time he does something incredible he's like holy shit.

I can't believe I can still do that. Yeah. Wow. That was cool. I've done that in like eight years. I'm old and I can't believe that I have another chance to do this. He's reached the point in his career where he's like he's so thankful because he knows

that he shouldn't be starting in games right now. Right. But he's still getting another chance and this probably means he's going to get another sick like backup contract somewhere forever for another couple years. Forever. Here's a funny.

His mobility is very funny because there was multiple times where he almost got stripped and that the Browns defensive line is still great. They're this back half of their defense is a fucking mess. You saw it with the was anyone even close to who scored the touchdown to get it within one. I did get it within one one. It was right before the onside kick.

And you were saying yeah. And it was like what's going on with the Browns defense. Their secondary is a complete debacle. Yeah. This is a here's a fun little stat. This is the first time since 2011 that the Jets Lions and Jaguars all went on the same day. Wow.

How about that. I wonder how many different league wide win agamis there are. Yeah. That is a fun have we leave KFC tweeted this out. First time Yankees Mets Jets Giants won since 2009. And it also was the first time I believe that the Jets and Giants had won week two since for like five years. They just don't win on week two.

So yeah. I mean it was it was a I still can't believe it. I mean I don't know. Is this when Robert Salah says let me let me pull out the receipts. It's because it felt like they just that one. I don't know if you can wrap that wasn't a women winning formula. They can know it's throat time. Yeah.

It's throat time. Shut it down open wide media because Robert Salah has god damn. It's one of those things where like Billy's fuck pronounces his name so many times. Robert Salah. Anyways my throat's open. Yeah. Bob put it in.

There. What were you going to say Hank. Just wanted to get your live reaction. I haven't heard the shit either. But there's a long history of games between these two teams. Now we've won 104 times against them. Not that you're counting. No I think everybody in Green Bay is counting for sure.

He got a fucking Southern accent now. He did the Southern accent. He's on perks. That's what happened. Arrest them. Oh money. You remember that. Yeah he's on.

That's the Southern accent that he he goes in. That's honestly it's it's offensive. I'm I'm I'm going to I haven't texted him since we had him on. I'm going to text him in an hour and say 234 yards passing is embarrassing. And see he'll probably agree. I just don't like this wide receiver sucks. I don't like when he pretends to co-opt Southern culture by but he's doing white voice. Yeah he is.

It's disgusting. Can I ask a question and this is we're a judgment free podcast. We're not going to judge anyone. But I'm just asking from a pure karmic spot. The Browns loss today was horrific. And they have had horrific losses in their franchise history. It's not a great franchise history. We saw our friend Jeff D Lowe was there and he was like same old Browns karma.

Do you think there's anything to be attributed to the tailgates where it's like a dude with a boner a mannequin with a boner saying happy endings aren't illegal free tips. And then other people with Deshaun Watson jerseys that like one of them said like rub the other said tug. Do you think there's any karma involved because I feel like Browns fans again. I'm not going to tell I'm not going to go around being like hey you shouldn't make any jokes. But you might want to if you think karma is involved at all maybe just be like clean it up Browns fans so you can maybe get some wins.

I think it's a horrific loss. I think if you're Browns fans you either have to go one of two ways with it which is you just accept that you got a scumbag on your team. So then you become more of a scumbag. Which is what they did because that was like they're basically making a complete joke of the whole thing. Or you just abandon the franchise. That's kind of well I guess Jeff D Lowe is one of the middle ground that is like middle ground like I cheer for the uniform right you could whoever whoever's in that uniform I will root for

right separate the art from the artist a little bit. And there's a difference between you I hate when everyone plays the oh well you root for that guy you root for that guy like just saying like oh your team has that guy every team has scumbags but you also don't have to celebrate like what they did. Yeah I mean you should at least acknowledge the fact that like you have a mom who's a female and so you understand maybe a sister who's a female. Maybe you have a dog that's a female. Maybe you watch a lot of lesbian porn so you feel very close to a lot of women.

Do you know did you ever have a teacher that was a female. So you need to just really scrap and claw at any possible thing that you can bring up to make it seem like you're not cheering for scumbag. I did see that picture. It's it was quite something. It's it was shocking even for Browns. Even for the Muni lot which like that's international water is lawless. You can do whatever you want in the Muni line.

In fact like lawlessness is the only law is please break laws. I guess in the Muni lot like they they kind of won because it is kind of the whole point of the Muni lot is to shock everyone as much as possible. Yeah and that what I saw it and I kind of like stopped in my toe. Whoa you really went for the joke. Yeah and you went quickly for it. Like it's it's the first home game. It's pretty bad.

It was it was a pretty bad display they had set up. It was like a giant what do you call those things dioramas. Who knows an actual massage table. Yeah it was like a life-sized diorama that people usually make out of shoe boxes but they're like hey our our quarterback super horny. It's like it was honestly as close to celebrating multiple sexual assaults. Celebrate that's what I'm saying. I want to see if they I want to see if they've done anything

making fun of Big Ben in the past. Yes I would say so. And then compare and contrast. Yes I again I don't think you have to you know we all root for sports are very messy and I don't like when people are like well you root for that team and that guy but you don't have to celebrate it. Yeah that was celebration but again maybe you're right. Maybe it's like you just have to go you have to one up the scumbag.

Yeah well the Jets came from behind unexpectedly today so turn about. Yes that's it was a shock it was a it was a shocking shocking loss. I feel like I've seen everything. Yeah but seeing that dummy in the parking lot. And those two yeah that one they're talking about the loss. I don't know I actually don't know which was more shocking. The loss or the dummy. It was bad but both those games the Ravens Dolphins and Jets Browns happening

right at the same time because both those were completely I tweeted like if you had the Ravens and the Browns today in bets like you just need to you just need to lie down like in a cold dark room and just settle in and just be like all right next week's my week. Okay it can't get any worse for you. No it can't. By the way Joe Flacco 18 and 3 versus Browns. Not talked about Big Ben's the Browns killer but Joe Flacco also a Browns killer which makes sense. Yeah 18 that he would play on the Ravens for forever when they were a really good team and

they had that tough defense. Right exactly so I don't know where the Browns the Browns feel like they just have to tread water until Deshaun does come back right. Yeah that's it I mean if. And Jacobi Rousset's not doing bad. He was I actually saw that he was he had 80% completion rate like he didn't do anything bad it was the Browns defense the special teams that and Nick Chubb not going down. Yeah he just didn't win.

Yeah all right Patriots Steelers Hank this game stunk. This was a this was a Big Ten West game. Yeah it was ugly. Yeah it was a logo game. One big play. This is Iowa Wisconsin where it's like let's just punt and hope the other team makes a mistake on a punt return. It was a logo game where it was on one of our center TVs today and I think a lot of people

are probably watching and tuning into this but as far as the actual players that are inside those uniforms it actually it resembles nothing of these two franchises from just like three or four years ago. Although. It's tough. Mitch Strabisky nice guy friend of the program. He kind of resembles Big Ben's offense where everything is a check down. Everything is a check down.

Check down really wide handoffs to Najee Harris just they were down after check terrified of running the ball up the middle and and Mack Jones what's your status right now. He did you see the one that he threw that didn't get picked off. Yeah that was one of the worst passes I was I was I was in a different section I was watching the game with the sound on it was it was ugly. There was just nothing. There's that one big play that's basically the only takeaway you can have from this game and the gunner Ochefsky fumble which people are like oh bell check double agent bell bell

checks double agent for everything. Yeah I said it all the time. It was a good one game from the Patriots though. Yeah are you having a member last week we talked about like is he the guy like for instance my quarterback was 7 for 11 for 70 yards with one interception. I am going to bed tonight being like he might not be the guy I don't want that thought but I'm having that thought 21 for 35 252 yards in a touchdown is not terrible. He did have a lot a lot of time to throw like TJ Watt.

I if you watch that game today you're like oh yeah that's why TJ Watt is so fucking good. I don't think Steelers had a sack like he makes everyone better on their defensive line and he makes everything way harder for a quarterback and then Mack Jones felt like he had forever today. Mack Jones before I can confidently say he's the guy he's got to do better when he's out of the pocket. Yeah when he gets out of the pocket it's a disaster and if you're going if your quarterback's the guy he can make things happen. These are the types of games that it's actually way more frustrating than if you had stunk because if you continues to have games like this you'll be in a constant state of is he the guy.

But he's winning. But he's winning right and you can't doubt a winner and then it's like well he had 252 yards but what about the interceptions that got dropped. We're going to teach you a lot about the is he the guy thought process because again you've never had to do this in your life. But what PFT just pointed out Mitch is a perfect example of went to the playoffs. Yeah a winner. Is he the guy is Jason Campbell still the guy.

I still don't know if Jason Campbell is the guy in Washington. I know he's not the guy in Chicago because that Monday night football game right. But that was Colin Kaepernick fucking eviscerate. That was when he was a bear. Yeah right. Still might be the guy in Washington. But yeah no Hank it's going to be it's going to be tough because I'll tell you right now. I don't think Mac Jones is the guy but I think he's close enough to being the guy

that he'll have you wondering whether or not he's the guy for a very long time. But from that's the worst kind of guy to have. What I would come back with is that the Patriots had a second year quarterback and a really good defense that's quarterback maybe not had been the guy his second year and the defense carried them to a championship. Obviously the Patriots even something is as good as the 2001 Patriots. But like I don't think I'm going to have a definitive answer this season. Yeah no it's set up.

Yeah where he he won't be asked to do probably too much. And Bill but like this was I bet on the Patriots say because I was like Bill Belichick awful loss like he's not going to they'll figure out a way to win this game. It was kind of they pounded the run. They played they made the Steelers make one mistake in special teams. And that was it. That was kind of the game. Like that was a story one one big Mac Jones throw and that was the game.

Clap it up. Game over. But I think Mac Jones has flashes of guy. The same. But he just got he's got to do better outside of the box. That's the worst kind of guy. Yeah I know there's a couple of guys give no time. What do you know dude.

You get yeah you hit because here's what happens after all stands for. PFT hit him hit him with it. Not for long. It's enough for long week. Nobody knows that you don't you don't have a lot of time to figure out whether you're the guy. So the problem with a guy that flashes the guy is he's not the guy. I'd rather have a guy that does not flash ever and you make it easy because what happens is after after year two then you start having the conversation about whether or not you give the

guy the fifth year guy option right at quarterback. And then that becomes the entire valuation price. Then you waste another year. Yeah you're going to figure out the guy ball test is not going to be friendly to Mac Jones in year three. It's going to be bad. Yeah you're going to have to start having that conversation next year of is he the guy fifth year option even though it's still two years away.

And it feels way too early to tell. We're just speaking from tortured living of like the guy is an important conversation you have to have with yourself. Absolutely. But looking around the league there there is very few guys. Okay I watch all these games and there's just really there's just really not any out there. Josh Allen. All right Josh Allen's a guy Patrick Mahomes is a guy so that's two.

I'm going to go with Joe Burrow he's the guy. Is he. Oh don't don't start that Hank. I'll allow it but we got this very moment at this very moment. He's I would go so far as to say he's him. Lamar. Yep. Yep.

That's a guy. Definitely a guy. We're missing like way too many. Rogers. Rogers the guy. Yeah absolutely. Tom Brady. Six.

Herbert. Herbert. Do you do. Yes. Yes. That's a guy. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson.

He's a guy. Not their car yet. No no no no no no no no no no please don't go there. Don't do that. James. Don't do that. But James was pretty tough today. That was pretty good.

Trevor Lawrence. No. I mean he would look good today. I think he I think the Jaguars are bad but I think as a I guess not. Yeah no he could be a guy. Not that many guys. Right. Wait her cousins.

Nope. Okay again separate. Kyler. Not to go all munilot on Kyler. Kyler is. I think Kyler. All right. Yeah no D'Shaun's a guy.

D'Shaun's a guy. Kyler so that's 11. Who are you who else are we missing? Who are we missing? We're missing someone obvious. No no we're missing someone obvious. Oh I mean Stafford's a guy. You just want to fucking sue me.

Yep. True. He's absolutely a guy. No not yet. He could be Guy adjacent. He's not he's not Guy yet. Yeah he's not all the way Guy. Dak.

Oh Jack. Jared Goff. Jared Goff. Definitely a guy. 14 guys we've just counted. It's less than 50 percent. That's it but that's a decent amount of guys. Yeah but half of them are super old.

Like Rogers, Wilson, Brady I don't know that. I mean they're obviously the guys but they're on their way out. They're men. They're old men. I'm just saying it's a question. I mean like I think the Steelers right now we're going to have to ask like hey we got to we got to probably put in the guy that we got to figure out if he is the guy and can he pick it. Yeah.

And again I love Mitch but like that was that was tough to watch the Steelers offense. The NFL is a guy driven league and if you don't have one then you're looking for one. Yep. That's just how it goes. Tua. Tua's a guy. This is the year for Tua. Yeah Tua's a guy.

If they don't make the playoffs. Not the guy. No he's the guy. And Jake sounds like you're very you're ready to write Tua off. No at the beginning of the season like that's what I was saying to myself. Tua's a guy. They didn't make the playoffs. Tua's a guy.

Yeah he's it was the real Tua. So far he's the guy. Is Dak the guy? We'll have to get into that because I don't know I might even throw a challenge flag on Dak. Yeah Cooper Rush might be the guy. You have won the game today. Um all right so any last things about the Steelers Patriots? No.

I I think they're I think they're actually kind of very similar teams where they're they won't I love that. That was Max. If Hank has a way he will find a way to just needle Philadelphia. No he had a great game. That was my take away from the game. He had a great game. And Belichak or Fiction would you have said that if he wasn't a former Philadelphia Eagle?

Fact. Belichak said after the look at the stat sheet. Yeah yeah okay yeah fact you wouldn't have said that if he wasn't a former Philadelphia Eagle. Fiction. Thank you for no you already said fact. I also think you can tell a lot about the Patriots by whether Belichak's smiling or not and he was there were some pictures of him like smiling very large smile after the game because I think he loves those type of games.

Well and he loves winning those games. Yeah right and he also I think knows deep down like probably not the most talented roster. So wins you know getting wins that way is fun for him. So do you think that Bill Belichak is kind of challenging himself to play the NFL in expert mode right now. Yeah kind of. To play with a guy who's not the guy. So like he had no offensive coordinator.

Yeah no off no offensive coordinator. Oh no a defensive coordinator a failed head coach former defensive coordinator as your offensive coordinator. And a failed former head coach special team coach as your other offensive coordinator. So yeah I think. And your son is defensive coordinator. Yeah yeah no I think that's what what's going on right now in New England is he's just trying he's just he's trying to just grit his way to he has a bet it's like that movie

was it trading trading places. Sure. Where they made that like bet for a dollar. Bill Belichak has a bet with Nick Saban. That's like can I take a college roster. Yeah. And a college coaching staff. And end up going above 500.

Yeah they're both like hey can you win a championship with Brett Bielema. Yeah. And they both gave it a shot. Yeah I think that's what's happening here. Yeah Nick or Bill Belichak was just essentially just walked into the season was like put some more weight on the bar. Yeah. I want to see if I can fucking max 450.

Yep. And so he's doing it. I like our chances. They're one in one. All right before we get to the next game PFT you got a quick word from one of our sponsors. Yeah before we get into more football talk I want to talk to you guys about Coors Light because I don't know about you guys but I had a couple blue mountains this weekend. I know Billy had a couple blue mountains entertaining some clients.

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So the Lions played the best half of football that I've ever seen in my entire life and they should have been they should have been winning by a lot more than they were. But that first half that they played was just all all fast into the game. Yeah. Just like firing on every single cylinder the pass rush Aiden Hutchison had like three sacks three sacks in the first half in the first half all over Carson Wentz all over Carson Wentz and our defense was so bad. I guess we're keeping their best weapon which is Jack Fox their punter off the field.

So that was smart by just letting them continue to drive on. Can I can I ask a question real quick because we're you know this is safe space we're all talking about our teams deficiencies. Again my quarterback was seven for eleven seventy yards and an interception. You just said our defense was so bad. I I think your defense might might just be bad. It was bad today. And it was a great week.

It was it was bad week one too. Yeah. So it might just be the way but then it was bad last year. Yeah. Right. So yes we're a bad defense. We're a bad team. We have many many flaws.

Carson Wentz again had he's got no internal clock. He's a spaz back there when he's playing quarterback. I I've never seen a quarterback besides Carson Wentz get social anxiety in the middle of a play and he it happens to him every time he drops back to pass. Well he does. He'll have a few times a game where he'll like pull the ball down turn around like look and be like oh fuck you guys are here and it's all the defensive linemen that are there to sack him.

Yeah. And yeah he I mean we said this last year he he never he thinks he can get out of any situation no matter how bad it is and that usually leads into safeties sacks fumbles interceptions so the safety I don't think was his fault. No because that was the office. The offensive line got blew up a lot today which was tough to see. I think maybe your offensive line just might be bad too. But I think we might.

Carson Wentz is bad 50 percent of the time. Our receivers are good. Our offensive line is bad. Our defense is bad and our kicking game is bad because we missed an extra point. So overall not a great not a great year so far. Team yeah not a great team. The it was the Carson Wentz roller coaster again because the first half Carson Wentz and the offense had two first downs in the second half.

Carson Wentz had four touchdowns. Yeah. So double the double the amount of first downs in touchdowns. That first half that first half was the best half of football I've maybe ever seen. I actually think that the Detroit Lions those Detroit Lions from the first half if that's the team that shows up they can win playoff. I their Deandre Swift is a stud that play where he fell down got up and juked a guy and he was hurt.

Yeah. Amon say Amon Ross St. Brown is awesome. Jared was throwing dimes everywhere. Their defense gets you know their defensive line looks like it has real teeth. This is the first time that a Lions team has scored 35 plus points in three straight games since 1952. That team won the championship. OK.

So watch out Lions fans. So it's giving NFL championship right. It is giving those vibes. Not shapeable. That was pretty super bowl. That was pretty super bowl. But and I also loved Dan Campbell. This team obviously loves him especially if they can start winning some games because

we've said this before about Dan Campbell. But he's the type of coach that you can get a year or two of all in maximum buy in. But you have to start winning at some point. So it felt like today was pretty important because it's the first time they're favorites in a few years. Yeah. He had the practice squad guy who ended up having to start offensive guard Dan Skipper go to the media first before anyone else.

That was cool. And that was a cool move. And that's like a everyone loves him. It feels like they're all bought in. I actually had the thought to myself today the Lions might be good. And the thought came into my head when you were muttering to yourself all throughout the afternoon we can't lose the Detroit Lions. And I was thinking like I think they're just a better team right now.

The Detroit Lions right that they are good. Yeah. They're right. They like make no mistake about it. What happened in the first half is a combination of like yes our defense is giving up eight yards per carry rushing on the year and everyone's open not good and everyone's open again. Not good. But also Detroit played really well today.

They did like every every single fast of the game. They played well in the second half. Obviously they gave up some points. They had some points to play with on defense and Carson Wentz went out there and in the second half I actually thought that they were going to come back. It looked like it was going to become two and then they missed an extra point at the end and then it was all over at that point and then we had the saddest onside kick. There's nothing sadder than an onside kick that doesn't even go five yards.

It's just it's insulting because you're you're having to resort to desperate tricks to try to win a game. And then if you get a flag thrown on you because your desperate trick was too incompetent to qualify as a play that's just twisting the knife in my soul. And it goes sadness for onside kicks. It goes kick doesn't go five. It doesn't go 10 yards. Kick goes directly out of bounds.

So no one even touches it. And then your guy touches it before the 10 yards. This was also like a trick onside kick where they started with a ball on its side. And so they tried to do the thing where they kicked it sideways. And so it was just a colossal fuck up. There should be onside kick specialists. Yeah. If you're an onside kick specialist and you can just do the same repetitive motion over

and over and over again. That should be worth roster spot. Young Ho Koo. Young Wei. Young Wei Koo. Yes. How do you say that? I think it's Young Wei.

Oh, that's Young Wei. Young Wei. Yeah, because I've. But it's spelled Young Ho. It's spelled. It's very tricky. Yeah. I just went with the spelling.

Yeah. So it's it was demoralizing to lose that way. Having just absolutely no chance in the first half and then a glimmer of hope and having that snuffed out. Reeling you back in. And I'm down my last straw again with this franchise. And it's not not to take anything away from the Detroit Lions. But we we did just lose to the Detroit Lions.

So that's not those. I know. But you know, because you know, I know, I know. The Bears play him twice a year and we lose to him. You know, hearing that thinking about that phrase is not fun to do. So I'm down my last straw. I want I'm not one to call for another man's job. Why is Jack Del Rio still the defensive coordinator?

I don't know. Why? It's a good question. Like all last friend is Ron Rivera. All last year. Yeah. I think Ron doesn't want to fire his guys. Yeah.

And so he's just like, no, you'll have to fire me to get to Jack. If Jack Del Rio doesn't get fired, we dust up. OK. We dust up. We dust up. It's going to be a dust up. I have one last question about this game. Did I lose you to advanced analytics?

How? 2915. Oh, yeah. 10 minutes left. That was different. OK. So I'm glad you brought this up. Washington, go for two.

And you're like, why are we going for two? I was like, PFT, might I remind you? Yeah. Down 14 score touchdown, go for two. OK. I'm glad. And you're like, I don't like this situation. I was like, yeah, you got to trust it.

I'm glad you brought this up because we found ourselves in that situation like three times in the fourth quarter. And so the first time I was like, yeah, you got to go for two here. Well, no, they were down eight the first time. OK. And then I mean, they were down. They were down. No, it was 22.

So they were down 15. They weren't down 14. Yes. So that made sense. So we're down 15. And I was like, yes, let's go for two here. Then we go for two. Get it.

We get it. And then in my mind, I'm like, OK, we already did the thing where we went for two. So I don't have to have this conversation with myself again. And then the next time we score, it's like, wait, I have to go for two. I just went for two. You have to.

How many times am I going to have to go for two on this? You got to trust the numbers. At that point, I got too deep into the numbers. And I was just like, kick a field goal. Kick an extra point. And then that proved to be impossible for us to do also. Right. So you're still on the side of when you're down 14,

you score late in the game, you got to go for two. Unless you just went for two and got it previously because you can't go for two twice in a row. It felt good to be able to flex on people again. Like you don't understand math. Yeah, I just, it was, it was depressing watching this game. Yeah. Ruin the Gummy.

Ruin the Gummy. They went through that last time, 36-29, but they kicked the extra point, missed, climb up. Nothing worse than ruining a Gummy. Well, we're 500 right now. We're, we're one game out of first place in the division. There you go. The Giants.

Giants sit at the top. They're in the Catford C20. Okay. Next up, Buck Saints. This game stunk. Holy shit. This was, the coolest thing that happened in this game was when Mike Evans and, uh, Latimore got in a fight

and then the Saints, like, lost their cool for the rest of the game. They got screwed by some suspect calls and also James threw just some unconscionable picks. Well, not really for him. They were kind of old school. They were old school James picks. Yeah, James threw some perfectly normal

James Winston picks. Pick six. Yeah. But it was, this game was so, so bad for so long and then it just broke open and was like, well, fuck the, the Bucks, I, the Bucks defense is going to be, it is very, very good because what they've, uh, they let up no touchdowns week one.

Yep. A touch in two games. Yeah. A touchdown this week, but it was kind of garbage time. Their defense is so fucking good. And I don't know. Tom Brady seems very agitated all the time. Yes, angry.

You see him. He smashed the tablet. He smashed the tablet. I also liked Mike Evans. Mike Evans and Latimore have beef. So that was not like crazy that happened. But if you saw Mike Evans, uh, it's like pleading with the ref to not get kicked out of the game.

You can hear him voice. You can like lip read. He says, that's Tom Brady. What, what do you want me to do? Yeah. He had to have his back. He had to have his back. And basically Latimore was talking shit to Tom Brady.

And so Mike Evans soft for net come over, push Latimore. Yep. And Mike Evans. I mean, he, he gets into a fight with Latimore every single time. Every time. Either him or CD deuce from last year. But if it's the saints against the box, you know that Mike Evans is going to get kicked out of the game or at least do something

where he should get kicked out of the game for it. Who do you, who do you think won that trade? If Mike Evans and Latimore get kicked out of the game together, I feel like that should favor the saints. It should, but it felt like the saints lost their cool after. Yeah. They end up in the, and the, and the box have Tom Brady. So he was like, all right, I just need to get,

that was such a classic game. And I was saying it cause I, I had taken the saints and I was like, this game is just hanging around that Tom Brady will make a play. And James will make a mistake. And that will be all she wrote. And it almost went exactly like that where he hit one big pass. They score a touchdown and then James goes and throws a pick six. And it's like, yep, that was fun.

Why did we, why did we do the first three quarters of them just like hanging out and doing nothing? Yeah. James also, we should mention, he played with four broken vertebrae. He's actually, he's a fucking warrior out there. Pain everywhere. He's going out on a shield. It's pain, pain, pain.

I like that Jake laser put that out before the game. And he was just like, but don't worry, he's going to be wearing some extra padding. To cover up the four broken bones in his back that he'll be getting hit on. Yes. It's like, I'm sure that's really going to, that's really going to do it for him there, Jay. It was like a couple of years ago when they said that Drew Brees,

like they discovered, they kept discovering new broken ribs on him. And like, but he put on an extra flak jacket today. So yeah. So the 12th broken rib is actually not that much worse. Yeah. Well, he can't throw the ball, but he, his ribs are there and he can, he can stand behind center. Yeah.

Had a note here. Sean Payton needs to work harder as shadow coach, because I think he is the shadow coach of the New Orleans Saints right now. He was on TV during the game today. Yeah. Wearing a visor. He was wearing a visor with a suit,

which is a combo that I don't think has ever been done before. Well, it's rare to get, I mean, think of how many people have existed wearing clothes. I don't think anyone's wore a full piece suit and a visor at the same time. They, they love having the new coach and be like, what were you known for? Oh, a visor. Okay.

Let's have you do the visor. And we visor talk with Sean Payton. Yeah. For, for 60 seconds in between commercial breaks. It was shocking. Yeah. It was shocking though to see that. That's, that's how, that's the mind of a TV exec.

Yeah. They're like, all right, what, what were you known for? Like if, if Belichick retired and went into media, they'd be like, all right, we're going to do, uh, Belichick mumbles for 60 seconds. And it's going to be great. People are going to fucking love it. Yeah.

If Andy Reed, they're just like, eat three steaks. Yeah, right. Just like, we're going to have a camera on you, Andy. Yeah. They just like, all right, all right, let me think, let me think. All right, you did this. So let's just keep doing this forever. Yep.

And boom, show gets made. Um, yeah, I, this game was, was tough to watch, but I do think the, the biggest takeaway is that the bucks are absolutely Super Bowl contenders, but it probably won't be, it's, it's going to be in large part because they're defense. And then Tom Brady just has to get to a point where, because he hasn't looked super sharp, but he, you know, he will eventually.

He's taking victory Wednesdays off now. Yeah. That's the new thing that he said. Like those are wife Wednesdays. Moving for this work. Oh yeah. Where he pleads with his wife is, please stay. It's probably why he smashed the tablet,

because Giselle didn't tweet good luck baby today. Yeah, yeah. He was checking her timeline. So it was, it was empty. It was actually a ring account and she was not there. She was not at home again. Interesting. So, but yeah, so he's taking victory family Wednesdays,

which I kind of understand that he is 45 years old. Yeah. He's dealing with some real life shit right now. Yeah, real life shit. Like what is, what gets accomplished on a Wednesday? Anyways. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

No. Also Bruce Arians completely lied to us when he said, I've got my last flag in the NFL. Because he was on the sidelines yelling at refs today. He was 100% getting a flag this year. He's motherfucking him. Yeah. He and Jason Light were on the sidelines.

Very weird. I wonder if maybe they just don't, the Saints don't give him sweets or something? I don't know. But it was, it's weird to see. So he's a former coach and the GM standing on the sidelines. Special consultant. That's actually, it's not a bad role for Bruce Arians.

I think that he get kicked out of the game before he'd get a flag, right? Yeah. Yeah. Probably. By the way, for the Bucks, we get to find out how good this defense actually is, because they play the Packers next week

and the Chiefs the week after. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Pretty fucking good games. I'm a, I might be ready to do the Max Colorman thing, be like, I think the game's past Tom Brady by. But this defense might be good enough to make me look like an idiot if I do that.

I would like to see, I'm not going to do it because this feels like a, Mike Evans, you know, got kicked out of this game. Julio Jones hurt. Chris Godwin hurt. He's still trying to figure out life without Grant. Grant might still come back. I'm going to, I'm going to put a pin in it till November.

If November they're not scoring touchdowns, I'll be like, yeah, this is kind of weird. But this doesn't, this feels like a guy who took 11 days off of training camp and has some new receivers and a couple of them are old. Mm-hmm. What do you think, Hank? Tom Brady, give me a rating.

I'll be ready for the playoffs. Yeah. I think he'll be totally fine. I think it's just early season, no Gronk. He's 45. Yeah. Yeah. And he, and he's, he like, again, he does not have Gronk

and he's going through maybe the D word. So he's got some things going on in his brain. But these next two games, they got Packers Chiefs. He looks like he lost a lot of weight too. Yeah. Big time. Big time in his face. Yeah.

And then they play the Falcons Steelers and Panthers. They might not give up a touchdown in that three, three game stretch. Falcons Steelers Panthers win, win, win. They might not give up. They might over under the Falcons Steelers and Panthers scoring 35 points combined under. Yeah.

One's going to be shut out. Isn't that crazy? They're going to shut one of those. I would take the under two. Okay. Next up, Jaguars Colts. Jaguars 24, Colts 0. Colts don't win in Florida.

Well, I want to give the Jaguars their due, but the story here is that the Colts are a tobacco and Frank Reich, I threw out the question, like why do we talk about him being a really good coach when, I don't know if he is a really good coach, considering the fact that he, it feels like they always drop these games. They haven't, he has not won a game in Jacksonville

since he's been the coach and I looked it up. So, I think they haven't won in Jacksonville since 2004. Frank Reich has been the coach since 2018. 2014. Yeah. In 2014, they haven't won in Jacksonville. He's been the coach since 2018. So, he's lost five straight times in Jacksonville.

That is crazy considering the fact that in those five years, the Jaguars have 16 wins total. So, there's a one in 15 season in there. The one win, the Jacksonville Jaguars beating the Colts that week one game. Remember that when they're like job not finished? Yep. And then it was completely finished.

Here's another crazy stat. In those five seasons, it's four seasons and then this season. So, in those four seasons, the Jaguars have been outscored by 558 points. The Jaguars versus the Colts, the Jaguars have outscored the Colts in Jacksonville 121 to 51. That makes no sense. That makes no sense.

It doesn't. That makes no sense. They've been very, very bad teams in Jacksonville. Like some of the worst teams in the last 30 years of the NFL. Several of them have been in Jacksonville over the course of those seasons. I don't know what it is. There's really no good explanation for it.

I guess Frank Reich just doesn't get his team ready to play on the road sometimes. It's crazy. I think I know why we don't really talk about Frank Reich on the hot seat that much is because he's always been a guy that has like a band-aid at quarterback. Whoa. So, it's like, okay, he acts like a guy that's one piece away

from having a Super Bowl team and it's just like, if we get an above average veteran quarterback as a patch, then we should be good to go. He and Chris Ballard, the GM together have, I actually was thinking about it because it's like, why aren't we talking about Frank Reich on the hot seat? I think people actually kind of are. And then I realized, I think Andrew Luck did the nicest thing

he could have ever done for both Chris Ballard and Frank Reich. He gave them five years of job security because they can basically be like, Andrew Luck, he left us in the middle of the, like right before the season started. We're still kind of dealing with that. It's actually very reminiscent of the bulls when Derek Rose towards ACL,

Garin Pax would get in front of him and be like, five years later, they'd be like, well, our timeline got fucked up because Derek Rose's knees. Like they basically were just like, yeah, Andrew Luck left us. So then we had to do Berset. Then we had to do Rivers. Then we had to do Wentz. Then we had to do Ryan.

Like they've done the patchwork every year and it doesn't work. I know it's only two weeks. They scored zero points today. Yeah, zero points against the Jaguars. And this was kind of like a revenge game for the Colts to go down there after what happened at the end of last year. I guess Carson Wentz doesn't look so bad, huh?

Maybe you should have blamed it all on Carson Wentz. I wish they still, they probably wish they still had Carson Wentz. I bet you they do. I bet you Carson Wentz is the best scapegoat. Yeah, because Matt Ryan's too nice of a guy to blame. We might not actually fire Jack Del Rio ever. We might just keep being like, look who our quarterback is.

Yeah, Carson Wentz. Oh, Billy's here. Hey, Billy. Um, they had, so when Andrew Luck left, they really didn't have a plan B. Right, that's my point. They could basically say everyone's given them an extended break because Andrew Luck left

in the prime of his career a week before the season started. And that's bottom four extra years. Yeah, so they just keep doing band-aid quarterbacks year after year after year. As long as they don't draft another quarterback, I think as long as Frank Wright keeps the team above 500 and takes a cast off from some other franchise at the end of every season,

he probably will keep being the coach of the Colts. Because other people can just be like, imagine if Andrew Luck was their quarterback right now. Yeah, that's all you have to do, like upgrade. So it's not their fault. It's a Super Bowl roster. Yeah, Super Bowl roster. Andrew Luck was actually an incredible human being

to Chris Ballard and Frank Wright because he just gave him a complete excuse for this long. And Vint Erie left, too. Yeah, and Vint Erie left him high and dry. So we were talking about coach speak earlier. Frank Wright, I think, is officially on the hot seat and there's nothing that tells you that more than the quotes that he had after the game.

So he said, we'll evaluate everything. That's a red flag. When you have to evaluate everything, he said, play schemes, everything top to bottom. Big time red flag. Here's the other red flag. He said, it was as pathetic as that was today. The distance between where we are

and where we need to be isn't that far. That's a red flag. Basically being like, we're a couple plays away. We're doing the work. We're going to be there. Just hold on. And then the last red flag was he talked about the practice intensity was at an all-time high this week.

Yeah, so that's the worst one. It's the worst one when your coach is like, you didn't see us practicing. We practiced hard. We had a great week of practice. Anytime somebody says we had a great week of practice after a loss, that means that they actually did not have a great week of practice.

They're just a bad team that was practicing against themselves. And the other side of their team is also bad, which made their team look good in practice. And they were also just practicing like, you can practice hard and be like, the intensity was great. And then when we got out to the field, we were like, oh, shit, we suck. Yeah, so I don't know who to give the Dan Quinn Memorial

look in the mirror award to. If it should. I actually think it's Reich. I think Reich's doing the whole, we're going to evaluate. Evaluate everything's a bad thing to say. If he said, we don't have any starters going into next week. Every spot's up for competition. That's actually worse.

Because when coaches say that, first of all, they never believe it. They're just saying that because they don't have any other excuse to use. So they're saying, they're blaming everyone when you do that excuse. It's like, it's everyone's fault, but mine. Yeah.

So the Colts, I don't know what, I do think Frank Reich is now up there for coach to be fired first. I don't know if Ursa fires coaches midseason, does he? He seems like a guy. He seems like a guy that would wait until. He might wait. But I feel like he, I'm trying to think of who would be the coaches.

They get shut out again. I mean, getting shut out in today's NFL is crazy. They had 10 possessions today offense. Five turnovers, five punts. Who do they have next? It's bad. That was a really, really bad game for them. Chiefs.

Chiefs. Oh. But it's Titans Broncos. It's tough. Wow. That's not good. Who else would be on the list for coaches that could be fired? Hot seat already?

I mean, hot seat already. No, we got to talk hot seat already. Okay. All right. Maybe hack it. Oh, maybe hack it. We'll get to that. Matt Rule, 100% hot seat.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Fired. He's, he might be the answer. Already fired. He might be, we'll get to him in a second. He's the next game. We should at least say the Jaguars looked good.

Trevor Lawrence had, welcome to the NFL, Trevor Lawrence. Apparently it takes 19 games. He was 25 for 30, for 235 yards, two TDs, looked comfortable, made all the throws. Welcome to the NFL. Congrats to Chaps. Yeah. When we had the guy talk, a day like today can buy a Jaguars fan

a few months. On the rest of the season. He's the guy. Rest of the season, because you knew going into this year that, like, okay, you got a brand new coach. His job is just to unlock, just to activate Trevor Lawrence. Right. And so as long as Trevor Lawrence gets activated at some point

this year and shows you glimpses of guy, then that's, that's a winning season right there. Yeah. Win losses don't really matter. You just want to see a few games from Trevor Lawrence where he has stat lines that say things like 300 some yards, three touchdowns, one interception. Yeah.

Five incompletions. You want some of those stat lines. You want maybe a couple, two touchdowns, zero interception games. You don't want anywhere it's lopsided where it's like one touchdown, three interceptions. Right. But you want to see those stat lines as long as you get those out of your quarterback, then you're happy going into next year.

Agreed. And yeah. So I, if you're the Jaguars, that was a very fun game. Their defense was flying around. Their defense was fucking all up in Matt Ryan's shit. And yeah, be happy. You win. You beat the Colts every year.

And you might, you might, if you actually, because the craziest thing is the Jaguars don't beat the Colts in Indianapolis. I actually would say if the Jaguars beat the Colts in the Indianapolis this year, that might be the one that gets Frank right fired. Yeah. That might be it.

The sweep. I agree with that. I agree with that. Here's the spin zone though for a Colts fan. So the fact that you lost 24 to nothing actually saved Jonathan Taylor and you didn't have him running the ball 31 times. Right. So this was it.

He needed a rest because any game that you guys are remotely close in, you're going to give him the ball between 25 and 35 times. Right. So this is good. Yeah. It's a bye week for Jonathan Taylor. He only had nine attempts today. So that's good.

That was huge. Okay. Speaking of coaches getting fired, Giants Panthers. And then we will be to our afternoon slate. Giants, Graham Gano revenge game. He hits a 56 yarder. He also had a 51 yarder.

The Giants are kind of fun. They play with energy. I don't want to, like the, the Joe judge, early Joe judge days, it felt similar. I don't think they ever started two and O. But I, I do think this is different because I, they're playing with energy. It feels like they're buying in Daniel Jones.

I still, there's still times in the game where you're like, what are you doing, dude? But they're two and O. You can't apologize for being two and O. Yeah. I listen, I am not a believer in the Giants, but I like Brian Dabel. Yeah. And they fly around.

I think they're going to win more games than they should because, because they do have that energy. And also Brian Dabel is in the position where he's waited a long time to become a head coach. And he's absolutely, he's loving every second of it. He's actually enjoying being on the sidelines because I think some coaches, they get on the sidelines and they're not as prepared as they think that they're going to be. And we can get to that in a little bit, even though they might have good ideas offensively. And be great interviews on the show.

And be great interviews and nice guys and almost doctors. Brian Dabel seems like he, he was ready to be a head coach, where he's like keeping us cool for in game decisions. Yeah. And getting to enjoy himself when he's there. I also like that he's wearing the FDNY hat. Even after the week where the NFL allowed you to do that, because it's going to force Roger Goodell into a hilarious position where he has to be like,

Hey, listen, the NFL, we love firefighters. But I have to find you for wearing that hat. And Goodell always gets like timid and nervous about it. And then he'll probably, they'll probably end up doing like a week where it's like, Okay, for this week, coaches get to make their own hats that they get to wear. And you can wear whatever mission statement on a hat that you want. Yeah. But yeah, he's going to force his hand.

He's going to force his hand on this one. But they look good. And I also like Brian Dabel appealing to the fans. He said, driving over here from the facility, looking at all the tailgates, all the beverages and all the games they were playing. They were pretty rocked up today. Love it. So shout out to Giants fans for getting rocked up in the pregame.

It's they passed the eye test to me where I, they're not obviously the most talented team. And they're not a finished product. No Giants fan would say that. But when you see a team like, like run to the ball fumbles, special teams, like some of those big third and eight, we find a way to do it plays. It's like, Oh yeah, they're kind of buying in here and they're getting, they're maxing out what their talent. They're playing hard.

Yeah. Right. So that's, I think just through week two, I'm ready to say that I'm a believer in Brian Dabel as a head coach. And I'm a believer in the Giants with a couple of bounces here and there being like a borderline playoff. Yeah. They can be feisty.

Yeah. They have, they do play the Cowboys schedule game. Yeah. Home against the Cowboys. So Cooper Rosh on Monday night and then sorry, but got home against the Bears. Like they'll have a chance and throw back, throw back uniform. That'll be the frisky bowl off. Yeah.

And then I believe they go to London against the Packers. Yeah. But the, and then the other side, the Panthers, I mean, Matt rule just put them out of his misery. He wants to go coach college again. He's 10 and 25 as the head coach. The Panthers are officially in the red zone, big play, big error team where like they'll have one huge play where Christian McCaffrey or like Robbie Anderson or someone like he'll throw bigger Mayfield will hit them deep down the field.

And then they'll have a play where it's like, oh, kickoff and somehow five guys on their team touch the ball and they all fumbled. Yeah. If you're Matt rule, you should probably want to get fired. Yeah. So you can get an interview at Nebraska. Yeah. Why not?

That should be your mission actually. Like go out there, you know what he should do? He should go out, run the triple option, like the old school Nebraska offense, like full backs and shit, and then use that as your audition tape for getting at least your foot in the door and then get fired on Tuesday and then get on a flight for Lincoln immediately. Yeah. That's what you should be doing right now. Yeah.

Because someone else is going to get that job if you don't act. We have advanced analytics on this show. A lot of times we'll talk about the fear of a quarterback dropping back and having time. Like if Mahomes has time, you're fucked. If Tom Brady has time, you know he's hitting someone. Baker, I'm at like a 1.5 out of 10. When he has a ton of time, I'm like, this is probably going to be overthrown somewhere. I'm ready to do the excuse making for Baker though.

Yeah. Because like I kind of feel bad for, I don't know why I feel I feel so bad for Baker. Well, because we know him and we like him, we root for him. But I'm just saying he'll have a couple of times where he'll have a very clean pocket or like he'll have a rollout and I'm not like, uh-oh, here comes a huge play. You know why? Because I'm going to do this. I'm going to say, I'm going to do the weapons defense.

OK. I don't think he has any weapons, big cat. Christian McCaffrey, that's his only weapon. Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson's hair is too weird to be a weapon. OK. It's unsettling.

Giovanni Ricci. That's a real guy. Fantasy fuck boy or Carolina Panthers. Giovanni Ricci. Let's play a real quick game. I'm not a believer in Gio. Giovanni Ricci. And G. Rich.

Where are the hell? Oh, yeah, he is a Giovanni Ricci. Looks like a nice, strong Italian boy. So he's a fullback. I'm not a, well, then I like him. I'm not a believer in Robbie Anderson just because Robbie Anderson's not a believer in Baker Mayfield. Was Robbie Anderson the one who was just fucking his girlfriend on camera? In a car.

In a car. Yeah, yeah, he was fucking his girl in a car. Yeah, that's right. That one I just completely forgot about. He was on the Jets then. It's quite a visual. That was a Jets story. It's a Jets movie, yeah, for sure.

That's not a Panthers story. No. That's a Jets story. No. If he's on the Panthers, he's definitely no. No, no, definitely. I was going to say something, but then it's too soon for Ray Kruchuk. So yeah, yeah, always too soon for Ray Kruchuk.

But yeah, Baker, I should actually release. Maybe I'll do a whole release of the scared one, zero to 10 scared of a quarterback when they have a completely empty, you know, like no, no pressure. Five seconds plus. He just doesn't, it doesn't scare. Actually, Daniel Jones, I'm a little bit afraid of Daniel Jones at the time. Yeah, he's like a 4.5. I'm not as afraid of Daniel Jones when he's like rolling out on a bootleg and he's actually

like trying to evade a defensive lineman while processing a play and throwing. Yeah. But if he's got time and he's comfortable, yes, I'm afraid of Daniel Jones. Yeah, like ask me a quarterback. Jerry Goff. Jerry Goff is actually like a five and a half. He's when he has a clean pocket and he's got a little time, he'll hit someone. Mitch.

Like a three. Jamis. Jamis. I'd say like eight with Jamis. Jamis is a floating scale. Jamis is like a two to eight and it just goes, you don't know. I'd say eight because when he starts to do the thing where he's going downfield, like you're fucked.

Yeah, Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is surprisingly high. Kirk Cousins would be like a seven because that's not when Kirk Cousins, like Kirk Cousins' problem is when there's any little bit of rush. But when Kirk Cousins has time, he'll, actually, maybe I shouldn't say seven, like maybe a five and a half because he also will just check down very quickly if he doesn't see it. For me, Kirk's back up to like an eight. Yeah.

The Kirk Cousins people, Monday night is going to be interesting. I think I'm back into Kirk Cousins. Jesus Christ. I hate him. Listen, I hate the motherfucker. No. I wish I'd never met Kirk Cousins. He's a nice guy.

But as far as like on the field play, like I've always, I haven't always, but in the last like six years, I've turned very sour, I've become a doubter. I think he's one of those guys that's been activated. He, the problem with Kirk Cousins is, well, you could just have the argument forever with Kirk Cousins defenders because the stats will always back up the defenders and the eyeballs will always back up people who are like, dude, he's not going to win a Super Bowl. I actually probably hate Kirk Cousins more than anybody else in the media. And now I'm like, I think I like Kirk Cousins.

Yeah. Yeah. You're back on him. Okay. Let's do afternoon games. You got another quick couple ads, PFT. Yeah. And we'll wrap up the show.

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Yes. The Falcons in a way did Falcons after the Rams kind of took the Falcons' torch from them for a second, and it looked like the Falcons were gonna come back. Marcus Mariota needs to, someone's gotta teach him how to throw a Hail Mary. Yeah. Not a Hail Mary night, they need a backup guy. Two very bad Hail Marys. They should put Desmond Ritterland for the Hail Marys. Yes, I'd agree. It was like, you saw just enough out of the Rams in the first three quarters, you're like, oh, the Rams are gonna be fine, and then you saw just enough out of like the fourth

quarter, you're like, oh, shit, this is kind of weird. And Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl, I think he's a Hall of Famer. He's still, no matter what, this way I like Matt Stafford. The guy still loves to throw a good interception. He just does. He loves to have one or two at a game where he's just like, I'm just gonna fucking throw it to the other team. Let's see how this goes. Yeah, big cat. And usually it gets intercepted. If you're the Atlanta Falcons, and again, not to go right after Arthur Smith. He's our guy. He's our guy, but he tells us to give them all the rat poison.

He said, bury us. Bury us after the games. How many times would you try to target Kyle Pitts? Oh, that's funny, because I know the answer to this. It would be definitely more than seven in the first two games total. Yes, that's probably a good plan. He targeted three times. Three targets to Kyle Pitts, who's frankly like unstoppable. Well, here's a spin zone for the Falcons. Drake London, their wide receiver, they drafted out of USC. He's awesome. So maybe Arthur Smith just doesn't realize you can throw it to both of them. Yeah. So Drake had 12 targets. Yeah, right. So I think he just,

he'll figure it out like Arthur, you're listening to this like, it's not an either or situation. Yeah, and both can get targets. He also said, we're not playing fancy football. We're trying to win out there. Right. That's a fair statement to make. But you can also sometimes lose if you don't target your players who happen to get a lot of fancy points when they make catches. That's a very easy way to not generate enough offense and score real points. Yeah. Listen, we don't know a ton about football compared to these coaches. So let's just say Arthur maybe just follow in the footsteps of Mike McDaniels, who's like, hey,

throw ball to fast guy, let fast guy do fast things. You can also game gets one. So you can also do that, but substitute the word fast for big and fast and fast happens is also but also like the bigger and fast guy. Yes, you can throw past him. Yes, I think it's also look, as long as the Falcons, the Falcons are going to be okay long term, as long as they know that Marcus Marriota is not the guy going back to the, this is a big guy guy talk. This is the guy episode, but this is one of those situations where Marcus Marriota will do just enough where you're like, Oh, this is kind of cool. But you got to be like, Hey, we still need to find our franchise quarterback. And if they are in that mode, they'll be okay because Drake London is

very good. Calvin Ridley, when he comes back is very good. Kyle Pitts is very good. They're defense. They have, they have a couple of guys on defense that like they're, they're not the Falcons. It doesn't feel like they're the Falcons from the last couple of years where it was like, yeah, they, they just suck and they'll, they'll win a couple of games, but they just don't have like enough people out there. Yeah. They, they were, I mean, yeah, maybe I'm wrong because maybe it was just a flash in the pan fourth quarter, but I think they'll be competitive in games. So they might be, but if they're not, and this is big if, if things start to go south, Arthur, you should just put Desmond Ritter in in the second half of the season. Yeah. Have him throw

to Kyle Pitts a few times. And Drake London. Maybe you cover a few spreads at the end of those games. Maybe you win one or two of them and then you have momentum that you have to stick or you can't get rid of me because me and, me and Desmond Ritter, we got a thing going on. Bring me back for next year. You cover a couple spreads. Calvin Ridley's happy now. There you go. And then next year, it's like, wow, synergy. Yeah. Kyle Pitts, by the way, 246 pounds, 4,440. Jesus Christ. Yeah. He's fast and big. It's not fancy football, big guy. It's not fantasy football. Listen, as much as you'd like to get the ball to your dynamic playmakers, sometimes, sometimes you have Marcus Mariota as your quarterback. Yeah. You know what? Spinzone, I think Arthur Smith is doing a great job of not

throwing Marcus Mariota under the bus. Yeah. He's true. He's, you know what he's doing? He's saying the like, blame me thing without actually saying the words blame me. Correct. He's being, he's being more of a leader than Kevin Stefanski. Yeah. How about that? So Arthur Smith, well done, but just maybe give him the ball like two or three more times. Yeah. Maybe four or five more times. Yeah. He's big. Seven targets in two games. Big guy. Again, Tyree Kill and Jaylen Waddle had 32 targets today. Jesus. Yeah. So crazy. He really was playing Madden. Yeah. He was just like, oh, he was playing Madden with like injuries and, and, and stamina off. Yeah. Do you think that they got tired? No, I don't know. Do you think Waddle or Hill got tired from just like running? I'd like to see

the metrics on them because we did say that the Ravens defense, they ran like 6,000 yards. I want to know if, if Tyree Kill ran for like sprinted a mile today. Yeah. He probably did. He probably did. And also shout out Alan Robinson. Welcome. Welcome to the Rams scored twice. So that was nice. They, it felt like with cam makers and Alan Robinson, they were like, Hey, we watched week one. Those guys stunk. Let's try to get them the ball. Let's try to get them some carries. And we should say that Odell Beckham took his official recruiting visit to the Saints game today. So he's taken his visit there. He's also visited with the Rams. We're waiting to see what the NIL packages that put together with them come back as right now. I'd say that the Rams have the bigger hat on the

table for when he does his announcement of where he'll be attending college. Yes. Yes. Okay. Next game 49ers Seahawks. Well, this is, is like the Billy Madison. Glad, glad we kept that guy around. Jimmy G. Trey Lance. Unfortunately, I think broke his ankle out for the year. That's brutal. That just sucks because this was supposed to be the most important year probably of his career in terms of growth. Like it's his team. He's given the shot and it's gone five quarters into the season. But if you have, if you, if you're talking about backups, can't be, can't be much worse than like, or can't be much better, excuse me, than the guy who took you to Super Bowl and also took you to the NFC championship game last year. Guy. Well, that's been the question today. He's shoulders

better. He got his shoulder repaired. That's been the question for Jimmy G. For a long time. I would say Kyle Shanahan says he's not the guy. I think that with Jimmy G. He was kind of the starter of this team until he just wasn't all of a sudden. Right. I think he didn't, he didn't really play badly enough to get benched. He played poorly enough to get traded to be a starter somewhere else. Right. And also was injured. It's like you're going to make somebody very happy one day, but you and I, we just don't have that. You're not the long-term solution for me. Kyle Shanahan. I love you, but I'm not in love with you is what Kyle Shanahan was saying to Jimmy G. Kyle Shanahan was basically like, like in a relationship with Jimmy G and the sex got stale.

He's like, what if I got this new guy where we could like do crazy shit together and throw the ball like all the way downfield. Yeah. And then it turns out that the crazy chick actually went a little too crazy. And it's like, wow, I kind of missed the stability of Jimmy G. Now, shout out. Injury too. Well, that's it. He went too crazy. Yeah. He got wild with it. We don't, we don't injury. No, never. But how bad does it suck for Jimmy G. kind of because he has to play this entire season at like a $10 million discount. Yeah. I think he's going to play essentially the same amount of time as he would have played under his old contract. But I think at the maximum with all the incentives, I think he's getting like 14 mil. All right. So you're right. Like it does suck

because of the money, but on the flip side, he gets to start for a team that he knows the offense and that team is super talented. So they, I, I didn't know what trail answer is going to be. We saw him for one game in crazy conditions. I do think that like the Niners, I, I now put them back in the contender territory because I know what Jimmy G is and I know how good like Debo Samuel, this is just our weekly Debo Samuel fucking rocks because he does. And I, Kittle hasn't even played yet. Yeah. So their Super Bowl has dropped. Like they're better now. Yeah. Wait, they're higher. They improved. They improved. From what to what? I think it was 20 to one to 18 to one. That makes sense. Yeah. That's my initial thought when, when Jimmy G, when, when trade lengths went down, I was

like, I kind of like a long shot of the Niners, go to the Super Bowl. It might be very unfair for me to think this way about Trey Lance, but I just keep thinking back to last year, that game against the Cardinals. Do you remember that game? Yeah. It was ugly. It was like, there was, there were so many plays that, that Trey had in that game where it was like, okay, that's a good quarterback should be able to make a closer throw than that. You don't have to be perfectly accurate. And the thing that sucks for Trey Lance more than anything, and I really do mean this and I feel this, like he hasn't played football. He played one season at North Dakota State. The COVID year, he played one game. He's remember they had like the show game, then he sat and then he played for five quarters.

Like he has thrown, I think I saw the stat. He, he's thrown like less than a thousand passes at love, like competitive football. That year. It's crazy. That year at North Dakota State, he was awesome. He was awesome. He was so good. That's just sucks for him. He just fucking pushed my shit in. Yeah. But it sucks for him because like this was his year and this was going to be the growth year where they were going to probably deal with some maybe bad performances, but get him to a place where he's third year, like everything's set for him. And now he's back to square one. It fuck, it's brutal. So was it a, was it a broken ankle or? I think so. Achilles. Yeah. I think it was broken ankle. It's tough. Gino Smith. Yeah. Did we write him off? Write him off again? Good game

manager. Yeah. Game managed. So he, I think he had, I think anytime, I think the, the barrier for game manager, like the quick eyeball test, I think he had 30 pass attempts in less than 200 yards. That's usually a good sign that your game, yeah, he had, he was 24 for 30 for 197 yards. That's the perfect game manager. Here's a wild stat. He had an 80% completion rate as the highest in a game in which a quarterback's team did not score an offensive point since statistics were first tracked. Damn. So it's the best bad game of all time. Yeah. That's, that's what Gino did. Michael Jackson scored on a block kick. He did. Touchdown. I love that they have Michael Jackson. And he had to say his full name every time. And maybe Gino Smith might not be the guy when Pete Carroll

was like trying so hard to get, make things happen that he had that, that DJ Dallas trick play that was one of the worst interceptions ever. Yeah. He just was like, I have the ball. I have to get rid of it here. You take it 49er. Yeah. He just threw it right like five yards away from him. Just threw it right in his hands. The crazy thing is like, I, that I kind of like how the 49ers look today. Dude, I, they looked like a very good football. They went back to looking like the 49ers where their, their defense is ferocious and they can run the ball and Devo same, like Devo Samuel, every, I don't know, 20 minutes, we'll do a play. We're like, whoa. Yeah. What was that? Oh, it's Devo Samuel. So I, I am feeling like a little upset that like

the stuff that Kyle Shanahan could do with Trey Lance in theory makes me perk up. Yeah. My whole body gets like a rush of blood. I'm like, ooh, it's going back to the thing where it's like imagine any quarterback in Kyle Shanahan system. Just imagine different players playing for Kyle Shanahan. We're talking a sex swing. We're talking all kinds of freaky shit. Makes me, makes me so, so horned up. And Trey Lance was a guy that had all those tools where I was, I was actually eager to see how Kyle Shanahan's playbook would evolve to fit with Trey Lance over the course of whether it be like the next year, next two years. So it stinks. He wasn't there yet. So when I'm saying like, oh, I saw that game against Arizona, he had a lot to go. He had a long ways to go. Right.

But Trey Lance, when they drafted him, it's like, that's a guy that I do want to see. Right. Do some weird shit in Kyle's system. Yeah. And it sucks. So Seahawks, they probably wish they could play Russell Wilson every week because that was all the energy. And then it's like, oh, yeah, this team's probably not good. The team that we all thought like might win five games. That that was the team that we saw today. Yeah. Um, DK had a sick catch today. He did. He had a very sick catch. Um, all right. Cowboys bangles. Uh oh, are the Cowboys better without Dak Prescott tomorrow and undisputed. Yeah. I was thinking about it. The Cowboys had the perfect game plan for a backup quarterback. And we've seen this with Cooper Rush. It's essentially, you have to have the best 15 play script for your

backup quarterback. And if that can run perfectly, you can just hold on long enough to win the game. So you get off to, yeah, they had the first drive. Cooper Rush went 12 plays 75 yards for a touchdown. And then they were like, let's just hold on and let our defense win this game. And their defense was all up in Joe Burrow's ass. Like, I think he had six sacks, but it felt like a million because every play Joe Burrow was running for his life. And now the bangles, they were, they revamped the offensive line and it's somehow is worse. 13 times he's been sacked in two weeks. So how many, they spent like millions and millions of dollars on the offensive line this off season, right? Yeah. And I agree with you. It hasn't looked a single bit better. No, it's worse.

It's looked pretty bad. He got sacked, I think 51 times or something last year. Right now, obviously it's not going to stick, stick this way. He's on pace to being sacked 110 times. It's not a good start. 13 times in, in two weeks. The last time a guy played more than 10 games after being sacked 13 times in the first two weeks was David Carr in week two. And he's being 2005. Yeah. And that, and that's the guy that we always point to and be like, this is how to fuck up a quarterback. And that's what's scary because we love Joe Burrow, but you, it's like criminal malpractice, what they're doing with Joe Burrow right now and not being able to protect. So Zach Taylor, he got a big contract extension to this off season,

right? Went to Super Bowl. Yeah. Super Bowl hangover for the bangles right now. The Cowboys, they, they did their 13 second spike thing again at the end of this game, but it worked. This time it worked out. And Cooper Rush looked competent as well in the fourth quarter. He did. So like, I don't want to be the guy that says, are they better without Dak, but I kind of am the guy. Oh yeah, definitely. Because like it's so much fun to do. Well, because everyone else tries harder. And there was the quote that I jumped on where Mike McCarthy was like, Kellan Moore's got to play, like do better as an offensive coordinator. And I jumped on it because I was like, Oh yeah, that's funny. Mike McCarthy already blaming people. I then watched

the press conference because I felt bad because I just saw the quote. He was basically saying, we don't have our starting quarterback. Everyone has to be better. And that happened like their defense was better. Everything was better. They ran the ball better, all that stuff. So I don't know. Maybe the Cowboys, I don't think it lasts. I think this is that, that one game bounce you get with, with the backup quarterback, but I'm more worried about Joe Burrow. And I don't know what it also is weird because last year they couldn't protect him, but they were like, fuck it will throw deep anyway. Yeah, this year they can't protect him. And they're not saying, fuck it will throw deep anyway. So they've got the Jets next next week, which is good. They got to

get right. They got to get right. That's a good get right game for him. Yeah. But I'm worried. Because he gets fucking killed every game. Did they have that weird game against the Jets last year? Yeah, that was a weird, weird game. Billy, you remember that game? Billy's got a piece of net in his hat for the championship. I know. I liked that. Didn't you apologize for winning that game? No. I thought that was the one that the Jets shouldn't have won against the Bengals. There was a weird penalty. Yeah. Yeah. But we beat the Titans and the Bengals. So both AFC championship. Yeah. So the Cowboys right now, they stand at one and one. They're tied with the commanders in that division. And it looks like who they have next week. They

got, oh, they're at the Giants. Yeah. Next week. I'll be a fun game to see if the Giants start 3-0 and they beat the Cowboys. I think they might. I think the Giants will go 3-0. I agree. But yeah, I'm worried about Joe Burrow. And my last note on this game was Micah Parsons. I love whenever like the hype is totally, it's actually undersold how good he is. He's just a fucking game wrecker. He's insane. Just all over the place. So he's back. He's like rushing the passer full time now, right? It's crazy. And then he will drop a couple, but like he's just so fucking good. And he's such a problem for everyone, especially an offensive line like the Bengals. And he's made me change my mind. You know, in Rocky, like if you can change and I can change, we all can

change. Yeah. I think number 11 looks awesome on him. He looks fast. Number 11 looks great. And I used to be like, oh, you can't have that if you're a defensive end or a linebacker. He's changed my mind by himself. He looks awesome in it. Yeah. All right. Last two games. This one was crazy as well. This was the other one I referenced at the beginning of the show. Two games where a team was down by 20 at half and came back and won the game. Cardinals, Raiders, the pinkie bowl. The Raiders are officially my pinkie team. I don't know if we're going to clap. Are we clapping for that? I guess. I don't know. I'm Jake's just a positive guy. So if the Raiders win the Super Bowl, I will cut off the tip of my pinky. I was through the half. I was like the Cardinals are the greatest

pinkie team. I'll never stress about them because they looked so fucking bad in that first half. And then Kyler, video game Kyler showed up and he made play after play after play, including the two point conversion where he ran 84.85 yards to get two yards. Quite literally the video game play. It was crazy. It did look like you were playing Madden with Michael. And yeah, you were just running around and the defensive was too slow to catch up to you. And there was nothing they could do and you were making them dizzy. And then you get up to the line of scrimmage and you just run to the sidelines and nobody can beat you to the sideline. And then just kind of walk in two feet to the end zone, hand the ball to the official.

Yeah. It was crazy. So yeah, 84 yards and 20 seconds, almost 85 yards. So I saw that stat and I thought like there's a chance I couldn't run 85 yards in 20 seconds. And he was just changing directions. And he was running. He was like running. He also stopped for a couple seconds. Having got blocks up towards it. Yeah, right. He pointed in different directions for his receivers to run from like a flat footed position. I think I could definitely I think I could run 85 yards. But the fact that I had to sit and think about it just tells me like what a freak color Murray's. It was crazy. He really did put the team on his back in that second half and the defense woke up and I don't know what to make the Raiders like you just you couldn't look better in the

first half. And then you just completely. And Kyler looked like shit in the first half. Kyler looked like shit. The Raiders couldn't could do everything on offense. And then halftime came. I don't know if the Raiders weren't able to keep up with their changes, but it just it was great. It was two different halves were played. I also had the Raiders in this one. I had a bad week. I was on the I was on the business end of a lot of these come from behind losses. And we had tough. We had the rare touchdown needed touchdown in overtime to get the over with the Hunter Renfro second fumble of the day. Yep. Getting the the fumble return for a touchdown to end the game. And I thought I thought for a second that he pulled to Sean

Jackson on that return where he tossed the ball through the back of the end zone. Yep. I thought it was I don't think that they had a camera set up on the goal line. So we never got a real good shot at it, which but that's one thing that Bill Belichick will always be correct about. Like the league makes how many billions of dollars per year and we can't put a fucking camera on the goal line. Correct. In every stadium. The new popular one with the Justin Fields play at the end of the Packers game is a microchip in the ball because I think he got in. Yeah. Seven for eleven. Like a pet yards and intercept like a lost pet. Yeah. Think that would work. I do. Yeah. For sure. They do it with. Don't they do it with sprinters and shit. Yeah. I think the XFL.

Yeah. Kind of. No, not really. They do with tennis. Yeah. Yeah. Tennis. They got rid of umpires besides the chair umpire. Yeah. Hawkeye technology that is slick. Yeah. Yeah. So um Raiders dead season over officially. Who do they have next. This is going to make me nervous if they rattle off like six wins in a row because Derek Carr definitely has a they're going to like win all their tightens Broncos chiefs. Bye. That's tough. That is tough. I'll feel very comfortable if they go one or two there. They're in the AFC West. True. So they've got several tough games. Well, let's let's get to the last game brought to you by Roback. Roback use code take 20% off your first purchase. Performance joggers. They're incredible. I love my Roback. They have new

performance joggers. They have polos, q zips, everything. I wear Roback polos all the time word all the time in Vegas this weekend. Go check out Roback RHOBACK.com for 20% off your first purchase. Use promo code take and that is the Roback last game of the week. Broncos Texans I don't think the Broncos are good. And Nathaniel Hackett. I like you, dude. You're a current guest. You got to figure out what's going on in that brain. Yeah, multiple. They got so bad with the lay of penalties. The Broncos crowd was chanting out the play clock. Yeah, they were counting down the play clock. They were probably also calling out runner pass. Yeah, that's a big thing for Russell Wilson. He asked everybody on the team to do that. Yeah, the stands should do that.

Just help the defense, help key it out, identify it. That that play sequence where it was like third and inches. And then he did like almost a jet sweep to the tight end. Yeah. And then panicked on the sidelines stood next to Russell Wilson and then was talking to somebody in his headset. I don't know what his workflow is. That's the thing like when I'm talking about Brian Dable being prepared for a game. Hackett seems like he doesn't you should you're the one that should be making those decisions. You shouldn't be like talking to somebody for that long. I think he does too many analytics about it. Yeah. And then he's he's waiting for the people to crunch all the numbers and give them the decision to go for it or to kick a field goal. And by the time

he sends his field goal unit out there, there's like 12 seconds left delay again. You got a streamline this year, buddy. Yeah, multiple delay game penalties that 13 penalties total. Feels like, I don't know, he's just got to he's got to have the game slow down for him. And he thought it would happen against the Texans. Texans were kind of in this game till the very end. Also Nathaniel Hackett not to pick on him because we do like him. The last five times the the Broncos have had goal to go zero touchdowns. Yes, that's hard to do. They're 0 for 6 in the red zone. That's hard to do on a couple fumbles, but also a couple of weird play calls. And the greatest, the funniest part of this Broncos team. And I don't know what it's going to look like in a

few months because maybe they just got to find their rhythm. But the key, if the Broncos were smart offensively, the irony of all this is they should just run the ball. What Russell Wilson wanted to go away from in Seattle and what Pete Carroll always wanted to do is establish a run. Their running backs are really good. They ran the ball 31 times for 149 yards today. And Russell Wilson like was 14 for 31 for 219. It was very clear running the ball was the key to them winning this game. And it's just very funny that Russell Wilson was on a team where the strength of the team should be running the ball. Russell Wilson is also now getting booed in Denver. Oh, they booed him. They booed him today. So they're turning on him a little bit. Yikes. I mean, the offense

stinks right now. Yeah, they're often the offense. And when you hire a guy that's supposed to be, you know, the offensive guru and then you hire his quarterback. The franchise quarterback. And although a lot of money, although people don't really talk about it that much. But Russell Wilson was like he was his second choice. Aaron Rodgers. They wanted Aaron Rodgers. So Russell Wilson like kind of kind of not even the guy that they wanted. Yeah. And we're going to have to keep our eyes on Mills Mafia, not the best game, but he'll have some games. So and the and the Texas are going to be one of those that type that type. It bought us a couple of weeks. Yeah. Watch out for the Texas. They will win a game where they are 10.00 dogs this year.

I think they're going to, they're going to win five games this year. As not, not a 10, but I'm saying they will be a game where they will, they will be like 10, 12.00 dogs. They'll win the game. They're probably going to beat the Colts again. Yeah, definitely be the Colts. Well, they, yeah, they did. They tied him, but that beat him. That was a win. Yeah, that was a win. Also, last thing, Jerry Judy got hurt. I tried to figure how hurt he was. So I just searched Jerry Judy injury and all I found was someone asked, how hurt is Jerry Judy? And then Evan 17216107 replied, can't be worse than Lance, my fantasy done for. Okay. So that was your Jerry Judy update. Imagine just going around on Twitter all day,

just like replying to random other injuries being like, yeah, but why aren't we talking about Trey Lance? My fantasy team's fucked. I'm getting some reports back that it could be either his shoulder or his ribs. So that actually fits directly into your area of expertise. I'm going to say ribs, possibly two injuries. Oh, yikes. The double injury. Okay. Those were our games. Great week. Week two was action packed. There were some stinkers, but holy shit that the Jets Browns game, the, the Dolphins Ravens game, the Cardinals Raiders game, and even the Falcons Rams. Those were all time, witching our gambling switches, crazy, crazy shit happening. Um, let's do football guy of the week and then we'll finish with who's back.

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So that the players know not to take the cheese in other words, staying focused and not letting the attention to Oculades bites you. So huge football guy move kind of in the rat poison type vibe. Nick Saban, but I just hope someone stepped on one of those rats. How funny. That would be so great. That is a Sean Payton move. Yeah, they should have put money in them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's nice. They did or cheese. I would take the cheese. Sean Payton. That's the year that he, he had the mouse trap set up and he also showed his team videos of mice and rats getting killed by the mouse traps. I'll actually remind them not to take the cheese. I'm thinking about right now you could easily do like a human mouse trap for me. If you just put like a piece of pizza in

the kitchen here or like a candy bar. I got mincey. I would, I would a hundred percent just like, Oh, pizza. And then no, I put dead. I put mouse traps in mincey's freezer around his ice cream. Oh, that was smart. That was smart. Very smart. By the way, we will do college football talk. We'll do it on Wednesdays. That's what we've done in the past memes pointed that out because these shows run long. So Wednesdays we will recap and maybe talk a little upcoming college football. Our second football guy is Ethan Glenn, a high school football player from Minnesota who was paralyzed and was on a ventilator. And his first words when he got off the ventilator was roll tide. Oh, very cool guy. Wait, Minnesota. Yep. PJ Fleck not doing his job. Should have enrolled

the boat. Yeah. What do you say? Nevermind. You're right. What? I thought you meant like PJ Fleck's got to get him to Minnesota. No. Yeah. PJ Fleck's got it. I mean, everyone in Minnesota should be saying row the boat, not roll tide. Right. That's a bad job by him. He's got to put a border around the state. Roll tide would also be a great like vanity license plate for him to put on his wheelchair. Yes. Definitely. Our third football guy is a Yukon football fan who was in the stands in the fourth quarter while they were getting absolutely destroyed. And he threw up a four because it's fourth quarter. And that was awesome. Yeah. He had a mask on. You always got to let them know. They were down 50. Yeah. Now to be fair, they were still covering. I think they

were down 45 maybe. Yes. 47 was spread. 47 with the spread. So that that threw up the four that actually meant something at that. Yep. That's true. Our fourth football guy is TJ Watt. TJ Watt was on the sidelines. He was injured and he still had his mouth guard on, even though he wasn't playing. Oh, hell yeah. He was just chewing on it. A lot of people are saying notes and visa line. I'm like, no, that's a very expensive mouth guard that none of us can probably afford. I like that. I like that a lot. Those are football guys of the week. Good job, Billy. How much is an expensive mouth guard? I mean, you can get those custom ones that these guys wear that you can talk with and they protect your teeth and they're like, I don't know, 300, 400 bucks, which for like a pro

player is like an easy market. Yeah. It's like the anti-concussion mouth guards that don't really do anything. Yeah. But they tell you they do. Are we sure it wasn't visa line? Why would he have an visa line on during the day? Well, maybe he's trying to get his teeth fixed to make more sense than this. But he wouldn't be chewing on his visa lines. That would fuck it up because that's even more expensive. That's true. Okay. Hopefully that doesn't come back to bite you. That was good football guys though. Perfect. I think he's right. Yeah. I think it was a mouth guard as well. Okay. Let's wrap up. Who's back of the week? Who's back of the week? It's brought to you by our friends at Visible. Visible starts just $30 a month for a one line plan. Taxes and fees included. No family

plan needed. You get unlimited data in hotspot, which means you can stream what you want for pretty much anywhere. And now they have a new plan that includes 5g ultra wideband and global calling. Switch today at Visible.com. Visible.com $30 a month for a one line plan. Let's start with actually Billy because I'm assuming Billy, you're who's back is going to be the water dogs. We should talk about championship champions. We did it. I mean, what a moment. Did the, did the guys The guys are hyped. I bought them beers. Yeah, they were hyped. Okay. They were happy. Okay. So do they know that we're the owners? Yes. I told them that I was with ownership representation. Yep. And I said, these are the owners. Yep. And what a random picture for that.

That's sure. I know Welker. That was Welker special. So I was like, I need a picture of me hanging PFT and that was the one as owners. Can we, can we sell the team like right now? Yeah, because this is probably the most valuable they're ever going to be. Yeah. Can we do or can we do like what the Marlins do where they win a title and then they immediately sell all their best players? Yeah, we should. Can we do that fire sale? Let's sell them all really quickly. I have a piece of the net from the championship. I want to bring to you guys and we'll put it up in the studio. That's awesome. Thank you. So it was a great game. Yeah. Was it awesome afterwards? I mean, you were, you were like spraying champagne with them and no, no, I was getting sprayed.

Okay. It's kind of one of those moments where it was like, I haven't really won this. No, you're part of your ownership. Yeah. No, you were ownership represented. It's like in a rest of development where they send the surrogate. Yeah, right. That's kind of what you were doing. But they were really great and inclusive with the championship celebration. It was awesome. Six inside. Yeah. They were just like, I've never seen that. There's but there's but then the six. Well, the Canadians, bro. There's so many Canadians on the team and they're just like, yo, let's start ripping some heaters. Yeah, I love that. I'm just like, ah, okay. And they're like, here, take one. And I was like, okay, I'll rip it here. I am very proud of the water dogs.

Clip that, send that out. I'm very proud of them. They were, you know, tested all year. It's not often that you can beat a team in the championship. That's four and eight. But we did. And I'm very proud of them. It was us against the world. Yeah. Seriously, think about it. Like everybody said last year, oh, the water dogs, you guys choked, you were the number one seed overall. This year, we took a different approach. We were much worse in the regular season. And then we just count on catching fire in the playoffs. But not as bad as the chaos. But not as bad as the chaos who were four and eight. And they made the playoffs from their two and eight, actually. So a two and eight team, we beat a two and eight team

is the more correct way to say it. Defending champion. Defending champion with a fat goalie. With a fat goalie. He's one of the best goalies of all time. Yeah, but he is a big boy. We didn't say he was a bad goalie. He was a fat goalie. The fat goalies are good. Yeah, probably. He should be fatter, actually. Yeah. Maybe he would have stopped a couple more shots. Also, Billy, we got a report from the ground. Do you want to hear it? Uh, okay. Erica texted PFT and I and said, thanks for letting Billy go. They were great. Congrats. And then she said, the amount of people in my DM saying how hot Billy is, is alarming on the other hand. What? Yeah. Yeah. And I replied, they don't know his personality.

It was a very hot day out. I was sweating. Billy, you got some. You got some. You got some groups. Oh, the guys invited me to shower with them. The guys invited me to shower with them. They're like, Hey, dude, didn't say if it was if it was guys. They said, hop in the shower. Let's Billy, I'm sorry. You look, dude. That's a nice thing. I like it's nice to be like, Hey, people were like, Hey, that guy's attractive. That's cool. Billy, did they? That's awesome. I like when that happens to me. It never does. There's Sully was get Billy in the shower. Is that what you're saying? It was just the shower. I almost did. I was like, you know what? That's their championship. The championship shower is probably so far. Do you think our players were

deeming Erica saying, Oh, how do you get this guy? Shout out some guys who really showed out Michael Sowers MVP dogs, Ryan Conrad, dog, Jack Hannah, dog, Drew Snyder, dog, Ewing, Ewing theory, Conrad Kelly, dog, Dylan Ward, playoff MVP, goalie made some huge stops was instrumental in the win. It was a shootout. It was it was 11 and nine. We watched the whole game. It was amazing. It was a great game. We literally watched the whole game. I was like, at one point there was a ton of action. I was trying to watch the end of the Jets game at the same time and it was a lot. It was very stressful. Yeah, yeah, it was. Thank you for your service. Thanks Billy. We appreciate you going and thank you for coming back sober. Yeah,

what a shock and what a real treat. I had so much alcohol on me that I didn't drink, that I was scared driving back like trying to explain to like if I ever got pulled over, like reeking of champagne, like I didn't consume any of it. It's just all over me. Yeah, you could just do a breathalyzer. That's one way to just be like, hey, did you get a picture with the trophy? Yes, that's on their Instagram. Yeah, there's some good pictures of Billy with the trophy. I'm proud of how you represent a stability. This is a big moment in earning trust, building trust with us. Yes. So thank you, even though I didn't tell you about how what happened getting home. So I got trapped in a

parking garage. Yeah, you sent us that video. Yeah, it was like five floors and we couldn't get out because turns out it was yesterday, Sunday was Mexican Independence Friday, Friday. Yeah, but there was their celebration. It's the weekend. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like how you treat St. Patrick's Day. Right. Yeah, right. It's kind of the same thing going on. Also, I told the water dogs before this game, if you win, I'm going to adopt my next dog. Nice. Not buy it from a puppy mill. So shout out. They saved a life. Yeah, big congrats. Very good boys. Very good boys. Proud of the water dogs. They were, I had, they think I'm really socks. I turned down like a lot of partying. So. All right, now you're on pretty thick here, Billy. All right.

No, they were, they were, they were partying. They were partying hard. I've never seen a group of guys going that hard. They want a championship. It should go that way. It was insane. These dudes were going real hard. The Canadians are wild. Yeah. I think we should get more Canadians on our team next year. Yeah. I like, I like, I like the wild card element that they add to it. When I fed mode for the beer, were they like, that was too much or too little? They were so happy. Okay, good. I was debating in my head. Steve Napoli. Yeah. Dog. Dog. Dog. He's the one I fed mode. Yeah. Yeah. They're real nuts. And I was like, this could just be a Billy Burner. He got me real good. How was the coach? He was,

he was very happy. Dog, dog, dog. Copeland. Yeah. Copeland. We're, we're saying, we're pronouncing the D now because they do play D. Yeah. We didn't, we didn't for a while there when they sucked. Well, there is no D in his name. It's Copeland. No, no, no. It's Copeland. No, it was the waterogs. Yeah. And it was Copeland and now it's Copeland. So I feel like if you respected him after winning it all, you would call him by his correct name. No, no, no. He gets a D. Okay. For being a dog, you know, or and D Copeland. That was his first name. Yeah. I went over to like that first name. He's got to change it. I went over to the faculty job, went over the fat faculty's house. Just like a couple hours ago, I was thirsty and I was like, I can have a drink.

He's like, no, I can't pour you any. Why? What? Because he doesn't have any cups. Oh, was the trophy a cup? No. Come on, label. What the fuck, Rable? What do we have? It's like a stick. Kind of. Yeah. Need a cup. Need a cup. They have a cup person. They have a person who carries it around with the white gloves. Okay, nice. Yeah. Shout out Paul Rable for getting us involved in this. I never thought we'd win a championship as owners, but here we are. We got to get a banner. Yeah. You got to make rings. Oh yeah, we're going to make rings for sure. For sure. Shout out Dukes and Jordy and Mackenzie Lozano. Okay. Any more shots? Are they dogs? Dogs. Dogs. All dogs. All right. Hank. My who's back the week is Dennis Schroeder. Great job, Billy. Great job. Good job. I'm worried

about saying great job because usually it goes the other way, but I'm saying it. Great job. Proud of you. Dennis Schroeder is my who's back the week. Oh, if you guys remember, I think it was a year ago in some change, he turned down an $84 million contract with the Lakers and on himself because he said he doesn't fit their system. He just signed a $2.6 million contract to join the Lakers. So that's their system. All time bag fumble by him. That's tough. And he's back and I mean, it's been announced. I don't know if we talked about on the show, but the Pat Beverly podcast is going to be a Barclay podcast with Roan. Their roster, it just makes no sense. Yeah. Like it is set up for absolute and unbelievable amount of chaos. No, it's LeBron's playing fantasy basketball.

But he's already, he already has his replacements. Right. But it's the names like he has, he's hand cuffed Russ with. Yeah, they, they lead, but they lead the league in names that you recognize. Dwight Howard. Yeah. Pat Beverly, Russell Westburn. It's going to be fun. Is Carmelo still there? Probably, but he probably will be. Might be something. Oh, stay mellow. All right, PFT, your who's back. I was going to do Urban Meyer, but we can talk about him on Wednesday for college football Wednesday. But he's probably going to be the head coach in Nebraska by then. So I kind of love it. No, I mean, it scares me though. Yeah, I love it. More Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer redemption tour. I can't wait for it. He's learned very valuable lessons in the last

seven months. So my who's back that we instead is going to be people getting clout off soup. So it's soup season coming again for me. And if you're a real broth head, you know that there's no soup season because you just, you have different types of soup in the summertime. But I've seen soup memes going viral left and right now. I feel like people are getting locked and loaded to just fire off a bunch of soup tweets, a bunch of soup pictures and just steal everybody's soup memes. The George Costanza soup season. Beware of the people that are firing these memes into your life because they're not real soup boys and they're just using it for the clout. And it's offensive to me as a lifetime soup fan, quite frankly. So just watch out for

those people because they don't actually love soup. So I'm getting mad about it. I'm getting pretty mad because I've seen a couple people do it already. I've got my eyes on them. No, I won't. I'm not going to name names. I've got my eyes on you if you're using soup, if you're using my, my culture for retweets. Okay. I'm just, just know that. Watch out. Yeah, there's an eyeball. All right. My who's back is Dabo. I hadn't seen it in a while, but his run is just the most ridiculous thing ever. Did you see the clip from the other night? Yeah, he's pretty quick. I actually, I timed it from the goal line out to the 40. Yeah. I've got him clocked in at a four seven. It's, if you haven't seen it, just search Dabo. He's just,

it's all about Dabo. He runs out so fast in front of the team where it's just him on the field by himself. And I just, the guy is like a narcissist to the nth degree, but he wins. So it doesn't, you can't really say anything about him. I also just like to point out that there's a significant hill that he's just run down. So he's got, he still has that speed left over from the hill. That's not all Dabo speed. The, the clip though. He's fast. He's fast, but it's just so funny where it's just like, and here's the Dabo Clemson Tigers and it's just Dabo. And then the team comes like 15 seconds later. Okay. Jake, finish us off. We will have, we will talk to Max. Max won. Max is actually going to be on the show on Wednesday. He was going to be on the show win

or lose. Thank God he won. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Epic 72nd hole while you're watching it together. Yeah. So we talked about unreal. Yes. So we'll talk to him about it on Wednesday. So tune in on Wednesday. That was unreal. My who's back is a record watch. Aaron judge. Yes. Two more home runs today. He's at 59 to shy of Roger Maris. These final two weeks got to be locked in. Even if you're not a Yankee fans, his history, uh, 61 home runs. The Yankee record and the non steroid record. Yeah. And what pools and pools. That's exciting. Now here's that's not exciting. Aaron judge. Like he's going to second place. Here's the thing. No, even second place trophies. No, it wouldn't even be second place. Has anybody started the witch hunt

on Aaron? What's the celebration for? Should there be an asterix on these home runs for Aaron judge because of how close the right field wall is in the Yankee stadium? Well, to the two today, we're not. It's regardless. Jake, don't let the facts get in the way of a take on this one. Let's just have the conversation. How many home runs would Roger Maris have hit if he played in this Yankee stadium? The launch. I don't know. But plenty of players have gotten to 700. If he can get to 61, no non cheater has gotten past there. Yeah. Do we know that he's clean? As of now, this is as of now. Sammy never did anything either. You can't prove it. Let me see your balling goods. Aaron judge. Yeah. So 59 right now. Barry gets suspended. Two weeks left.

Uh, no. So, yeah. No, Barry bonds never got caught. I'm excited for it because I put the bet on it for 62. I'm not. I'm not trying to take it away from you. It'll be the Yankee record. Be pretty crazy. That would be pretty crazy. They've been playing baseball for a long ass time. Yeah. Also, it's, uh, it's reached that point in the night where American Ninja Warriors back on. Yeah. We went through Johnny Bananas. We always see Johnny Bananas show for a while, and then it goes to American Ninja Warriors. So let's wrap it up. We'll see everyone Wednesday, Max Homa numbers brought to you by Paramount plus the NFL and CBS is streaming live on Paramount plus all season long kicking off. Watch your live local NFL on CBS games every Sunday at home on your

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