Pardon My Take - NFL Week 3, Fastest 2 Minutes, Browns Stun The Packers, Eagles Big Comeback, Caleb Williams Career Day And Justin Herbert Is Incredible

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Week 3 Fastest 2 minutes then we talk about every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:12:08) Eagles 33, Rams 26 (00:12:08-00:35:44) Bucs 29, Jets 27 (00:35:44-00:50:00) Browns 13, Packers 10 (00:50:00-00:59:53) Steelers 21, Patriots 14 (00:59:53-01:13:22) Commanders 41, Raiders 24 (01:13:22-01:24:01) Jaguars 17, Texans 10 (01:24:01-01:30:31) Panthers 30, Falcons 0 (01:30:31-01:37:10) Colts 41, Titans 20 (01:30:31-01:48:42) Vikings 48, Bengals 10 (01:48:42-01:56:42) Chargers 23, Broncos 20 (01:56:42-02:06:10) Seahawks 44, Saints 13 (02:06:10-02:11:52) Niners 16, Cardinals 15 (02:11:52-02:20:23) Bears 31, Cowboys 14 (02:20:23-02:32:54) Chiefs 22, Giants 9 (02:32:54-02:41:55) We then finish with who's back of the week and talk some playoff baseball (02:41:55-02:57:43)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, week three in the NFL, what a witching hour we had. We had blowouts, but we had some incredible finishes. The Packers lost to the Browns, the Rams and Eagles game, the Bucks stay undefeated. the Bears win a gateway game against the Cowboys. We're going to get into all of it. We're going to start with fastest two minutes.

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Jonathan Trailer showed off his wheels running for 102 yards and three touchdowns, and Tyquan Lewis Hamilton said F1, Sack, I want two as the Colts ran over the Titans all afternoon long. Someone get Cam Hospital Ward and offensive line before we lose the young promising QB. Also, Anthony Richardson and Pladen didn't do anything bad. Cults roll 41, 20.

What? We head to Rile John Maryland, where Jane and Daniel's knee is going to be fined, and no one is worried about it at all, and it's doing great, and it's fine. Meanwhile, Marcus, there's something about Marriota, has a little more white in his hair than I used to, and Jacori Croski Meritocracy said, It doesn't matter where I got drafted,

get ready to learn Bill Buddy. The commander's old mercenaries looking like the Bobby Wagner group, as Theo von Miller had people saying, there's no way he's actually that old, is he? Major Tuddy had a Trey Tucker, giving him the old Tuck Tuck-Tuck-N-Tousin, going real deep on the hog, for a very easy completion,

while Skeet Carroll had more trouble using the shotgun in D.C. since Dick Cheney, and Dan Marino Quinn was all over the white lines and ended up getting a nosebleed as he avenges his loss to teams that Tom Brady leads by cheating.

Commanders, 41, the Raiders. 24. You okay, boom? Fine, Teach. All right, we head to the Battle of the Booth in Tampa Bay. where Means and Zach were on the scene for the first ever dual boomer. In Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers take on the New York Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets.

With the opening score, Nickelback folks, boots an absolute picture-perfect photograph field goal through the uprights to set the tone. But fear not, police Chase McLaughlin avoids capture from the judicial jets and scores three from 54 yards out. Baker May Field of Dreams built it, and seven points did come after connecting with Michael Jackson Evans, who moon walked into the end zone, concluding one thriller of a drive.

Let's kick it to memes with the second half. In the second half, Tyrod Taylor. No, it's pronounced today, Jr., as it took the Jets offense four quarters to get going and gave the, to give the Jets a chance at a comeback. Will McDonald turned into the Kung Fu Panda and said, Skidooch, blocking the ball with his chest and returned him for a go-head touchdown. Bucky Kyrie Irving wanted to prove the Jets' defense was still flat on the final drive,

and Pika! Pika! Egbuka was lighting up the Jets secondary. Chase Sarah McLaughlin, I will remember the Jets almost beating the Bucks. Will you remember the Jets almost beating the Bucks? Don't worry. Nobody will. Bucks 29, Jets, 27. Thanks, boys.

We head down to Cleveland or up to Cleveland where Joe Flaccoe still has the juice carving up the Packers defense late when Cleveland needed it the most. On the other side, Packers' wide receiver Johnny Cochran Fitzpatrick scored, but Jordan Glove didn't fit anymore in some tight windows throwing a costly interception late. Kicker Andre 3,000 Schmidt, was probably an outcast after his previous failures, but he's big boy. And after this game winner, I'm sure he's going to be

all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Okay, now, ladies, yeah? That's the end of the boomer. Brown, stun the Packers, 13 to 10. We now go to Philly, where Max was there for late second half heroics. We head over to Philadelphia where a lot of haters learn that the truth hurts.

You say he ain't great till he's got to be great. Don't tweet at me, say it straight to my face. Our old man's on the Minnesota Vikings. Jalen Hertz is so much more exciting. Gooner Ford shined early for the Rams today as he was jacking off, I mean jacking up the Eagles' offensive line all day, en route to the game's hairiest, I mean scariest sack. A.J. Sondarulo Brown said,

Plamo, me say playmo. second half come and we don't want to go home as he exploded late in the game to six catches and 100 yards Jordan Davis got his belly in check this summer and had a dominant game that concluded with a game ceiling touchdown after his second block field goal and for that he is my Jordan of the week

Eagles win I forgot I forgot to put on the score we go up to Minnesota as arson wince was on fire and everyone in Vikings Nation was standing and taking their hats off to Isaiah Can You See Rogers, who made the Bengals' helmets broad stripes, and their bright stars, like Noah Fent and Jamar Chase, wish they had the old Rockets' red glare of Andy Dalton back in the building. Rogers had 153 yards of touchdown returns in the first half alone, and a fourth fumble. Meanwhile, T.J. Hockham Socom robots kept his head on in a very fun game, scoring a TD. Drake Browning was over-reliant on his Drew samples, and he needs some throw Zimpic.

instead of trying to strike a chord, and it's Somaget P. Ryder. Vikings humiliate the Bengals, 4817. We now head over to Foxborough, where Hank is there. Over to Gillette, where a very, very, very special AWL got inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame. We'd like to give a special shout out to Julian Edelman. Shout out to Jules. Shout to Jules. Hunter Henry Lockwood had silky soft mitts around the green zone, catching two.

touchdowns and drove the ball well when it was in his hands, as would be expected. Drake Mason Derulo smoked his head in the red zone and was overheard saying, Mm, what'd you say to his teammates in the huddle right before throwing an interception in the end zone to Brandon what we do in life. Eccles in eternity. D. K. San Durulow, Metcalf was getting jazzy on him after catching a second quarter from Aaron Richard Rogers, making him worth every cent of that offseason Doree Me. Big boy, Mike Vrable, was not liking the way Remandre 3,000.

Stevenson was moving today and told him after the game, hey, yeah, got to go onto the field. You got to hold on to the football or get your ass, your ass is getting cut. Was that on, 300,000? Nilled it, boom. Hey, yeah, got to hold on to the football. Your ass is getting cut. Got it, got it.

Calvin Austin Powers was feeling groovy, baby. After catching the game winning touchdown in the fourth quarter, Steelers win, 2114. We go to a battle of the AFC West as the Los Angeles Chargers host of the Denver Broncos. After Najee Harris Tours Achilles, a word that, in a touching tribute to Najee only has one eye. It was time for a Mario on plankton to make the competition look like a chum bucket. Meanwhile, Darwin James has evolved into the final form of a safety. In a ludicrous game, Nix went 14 for 15, 1TD, Bows run on occasions, no I&Ts, I got bows.

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After the Chargers defense Stop the Broncos from driving Usually the Chargers can't even stop a Ford From making the five-minute walk To the Rams locker room boom Cameron got down with a dickness As they split the

UWA uprights Chargers win 2320 Standing on the corner, James Winston and Hoboken Such a fine side to see He should be in Sincere or a Viking like Wincy But instead he's stuck at third string Rush should be locked up

He's throwing lobs up And where is Taylor Swift She might be knocked Fucked up. Chiefs are up 16 to 6 in the fourth quarter. And that is our fastest two minutes brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Football season is here, and whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff. There's one ride that always game ready.

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Because we had what was, you know, basically shaking up to be an absolutely terrible first slate of games where there were blowouts everywhere. The closest game was like the Browns and Packers. There was 10-0 Packers. Might as well have been 30. Yeah. The Rams were killing the Eagles at halftime. The Jets were getting killed.

And then the blowouts stayed the blowouts. But we had all hell break loose, and it was awesome to watch. And it was, everyone was just blocking kicks left and right. And it became an awesome witching hour. So we finally got our first, like, real, like, holy shit, holy shit, witching hour. It was awesome. I missed the chaos. You want to start with the Packers and the Browns?

I was going to start with Eagles Rams because, Max, I wanted to just get that out of the way. Because Max, I probably got some receipts for us. Max? Eagles 33 Rams 26. This was a tale of two halves. The Philadelphia Eagles fans were booing the Eagles into halftime because the Eagles had 33 total yards at half. It was 212 to 33 total yards at half.

Jalen Hertz was four for eight for 17 yards. Did negative one yards passing as a team. Yes, shout out meek, Phil. It was, it was crazy. It looked like the Eagles were just not up for it. And then I guess maybe what the Eagles needed was to be, forced into a game script where they had to pass because in the second half their offense woke up and Jalen Hertz was phenomenal he was in his in the second half he was 17 for

24 221 yards three touchdowns he found that A.J. Brown still exists and then we had the block kick at the end uh and the Eagles stay undefeated they have now won 17 straight games where Jalen Hertz has started the game and finished the game that's crazy crazy 17 and no what was that has started and finished the game. Yeah, because the one that obviously when Kenny Pickett came in and lost to the commander. That's right, yeah. He was also very big in that game before he went out.

Very big, very big. Yeah. You should have been a win. Yeah. Should have been a win. But yeah, I think the Eagles also figured out in the second half target Emmanuel Forbes because he weighs 25 pounds. Yeah.

And he can be carried as a backpack would. Skinny legs. That's your boy. That's not my boy. But the Eagles' offense in the second half was great. like they're uh their a j brown was awesome yep uh devante was awesome barkley never really got it going but he didn't really need to and max before we get to your full reaction from the game i have a question for you did you see jalen hertz reaction to the block fuel goal of course he's a psychopath he's

he's a yeah jelan hertz is a psychopath a legitimate like dexter style serial killer more so than bosworth because they just blocked the kick to win the game and returned it where he has had a man who was about 350 pounds sprinting full speed down the field, and Jalen Hertz, he was looking at it like he was static on a television. Yeah. Crazy. And when you, when you juxtapose it with, because we had a bunch of walk-off field goals today, you juxtapose that they had Joe Flacko watching, Justin Herbert watching,

Baker Mayfield watching, all these kicks. I can't think of his name, Jets coach. Aaron Glenn, that was the block kick. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I'm talking walk-off field goals, like all these other quarterbacks watching their teams win and they were going crazy and Jalen Hertz was just deadpan. It was it felt like the Eagles offense like that was what you were looking for Max. Is that not fair? Like that was you were looking for that type of performance where they can pass and run the ball. Also I did check with

our expert on all wild stats. It got a official wild ruling on it, Jake Marsh, our darling Jake. A.J. Brown last year, week 12 against the Los Angeles Rams, his stat line was six catches 109 yards and one touchdown. This year against the Los Angeles Rams, his stat line was six catches 109 yards and one touchdown. That's very wild. That's wild. That's wild. That is wild. That's very wild. So, Max, how are you feeling? Because you were, you were booing. Max was booing at halftime he said fire everyone he said he pulled me aside and he said this is a lot we should never have

let Kellan Moore out the window out the door we should have fired Nick Siriani that's not that I said that I said that who sent that text? Was that a family member? No it was not a family member. Was that a Delente? It was not at Delente did not send that text. I am I love the we shouldn't have let that guy out of the building line of thinking at all time. I like that too. Also you know how

they say like retweets do not equal endorsements I always say that. I actually think that messages that you get from your boys on your group chats, that is endorsed. You are the company you keep. Yes, exactly. Those do equal endorsements, Matt. So, Max, are you still thinking Nixiriani should be fired? No, but I never said that Nixiriani should be fired.

But you are the company that you keep. I never said any of that. That's your line. You just committed perjury. I never said that. You have said, you guys aren't going to turn this against me. Max, true or false. This is insane that you're just.

saying something that I never said. Did Max ever in his life say that he wanted Siriani fired? Yes. Hmm. You just committed Padrae. You said Caleb sucks. Well, yeah, he did suck at the time. Nick Siriani sucked at the time too.

Okay. So? Yeah. So what happened in the second half? Maybe it's time to hire Petulow as the head coach? I think that there's a chance that Jalen Hertz may have just taken over offensive coordinator. Oh, okay. There was a point in the game. where he got into Petulow's face

and started yelling at him. You don't know what he was actually saying. But it seemed to go to the extent of we need to be more aggressive. And I think that there's a chance that the offensive play caller in the second half was jailing her. He did say after the game, like,

we needed to be more aggressive. We stepped it up on offense. He seemed like he was very happy with the changes that were made going into the second half. And that's why I think that he was, there's a slight chance he was just a play caller. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was night and day. Also, special teams matter a lot because it was actually the second kick that you guys had blocked on the day. Their special teams was also insane. So I looked into it, Joshua Cardi, their kicker, the Rams kicker.

He actually did an interview a couple weeks ago where he's admitted that he has perfected the knuckle ball. So he is using a knuckleball kick and it was fucking you guys up constantly. It was all day that you guys couldn't feel the kickoff, it was crazy to watch. And I think that this will end up happening a lot more because he's figured it out and it's a copycat league.

I think more guys are going to figure it out. But yeah, this guy has figured out how to do a knuckleball with a football and it was apparent. The field position, so in there's actually something to back it up. I know it's only three weeks through the season, but the Rams opposition has the worst starting field position off of kickoff. That's pretty crazy. I did notice that kickers in general have gotten better at the kickoff.

Yeah. There's more strategy that they've had some time to let the years shake out a little bit. But he is the best at it. Yes. By far. Yes. This is also the largest comeback the Eagles had since the 2010 season. Pretty crazy.

Yep. Miracle, the medal lands too. Yeah. Deshaun Jackson returned the punt. Overall, I feel like the Rams are going to just be kicking themselves. They definitely let one go away. You know, I think there was a holding penalty to when they scored a touchdown on the second half. they went for it on a fourth down that was pretty aggressive

just that was a game the Rams could have easily won and they just didn't do the little things especially special teams to win the game I mean they had a field goal to win the game at the end Max are you let me ask you this do you think at some point

the Eagles should try to lose one just to remember what it's like it's been so long since you've lost one disagree okay just throwing it out there this is part of my take I'm just throwing out a take. Jalen hurts. He doesn't like losing. He refuses to lose.

But if he forgets what it feels like to lose, then you might like keep going and then get to a point where it's like, oh shit, we lose the big one. Like I forgot about the fear of losing. I think there's a chance that he felt like he lost this game today. Yeah, that's true. That was a loss win. Yeah, the way that he was watching the win made me think he, in his mind,

he was like, we don't deserve this win. There's nothing better than a lot. win. Yeah, he's not going to celebrate it. No, I mean, literally, literally was not celebrating it. There's a good chance that in the locker room in the middle of Stifansky's speech, Jalen Hertz just stopped them and said, guys, we got lucky today. Yeah.

No one in this room should treat this like we won. Yeah, let's not even celebrate. No game balls. Jalen, I mean, Jordan Davis, Jalen Hertz both get game balls. We're not going to Fuddruckers. Should we, can we talk about that for a second? Jordan Davis reached 18.59

miles per hour on his kick return to end the game. He's the heaviest player ever to return a kick 50 plus yards for a touchdown. 336 pounds. It says that he was, it's the fastest speed by a player over 330 pounds since at least 2017, which is when they first started tracking it. So maybe of all time. Of all time. He might be the fastest fat guy of all time, which is pretty cool. He also had that play where he chased down Matt's, I know he did lose some weight. And on the play where he, it's funny to say, like, chase down Matt Stafford? He did. He did do that, and I think maybe old Jordan Davis wouldn't have. I think Jordan Davis might be a problem. Young Matt Stafford would have outrun old Jordan Davis easily.

Easily. Fat Jordan Davis. First young Matt Stafford. That's Matt Stafford all day. So young Matt Stafford would have run away from young Jordan Davis. Yes. Which was the old Jordan Davis. Both of them at their youngest, Matt Stafford wins that. Both of them at their oldest, which is today Jordan Davis wins. that. I know people don't care about our bets, but I'm sure there are people listening to this right now who did have it. That was one of the most bullshit ways of all time to lose plus three and a half, of all time, because there was no reason for Jordan Davis to run that back. The clock had expired. You just, you're a fat guy, dude. You don't like to run, okay? Just lay down.

I know it's a cool moment, and Max giggled a little bit, and I needed about 10 minutes. I needed about 10 minutes to just... I halted my celebration of, like, the most insane win ever. You giggled. Hank, Hank, was that... You said it yourself. I was only mad at you for 10 minutes. It's true.

I let it go. But it was crazy. I think everyone who had the Rams has reason... Oh, yeah. This is where also, like, because, again, I know that people don't care about our bets. We need... There needs to be a national hotline that everyone can call. call into when that happens if you had Rams plus three and a half that you can just call in

and chat with your boys and just be like hey you had that yeah that was bullshit you just basically have a conversation with the boy like link link you up to a random person and just say yeah that was complete bullshit that's fucked up I can't believe that happened I'm retiring that was the worst loss ever all right what do you like in the late games yeah it's like that's like that we need or just have one person that's on the end responding to all the calls like a phone sex operator I mean, everyone does have it. I text Dave every time, and he texts me every time. There's something bad like that because we're some, the emotional support there.

But it would be nice. I would have liked to talk to some random guys and just, like, bitch about the play for 10, 15 minutes. I had the under in our part of my take picks. So as of now, I'm 0 and 5. So do not take any of my bets that I ever put out on this podcast ever, unless I get really hot. But yeah, it sucks. And also, that's not what cost me the win, but it's fun to just blame that. Yeah.

So I'm going to choose to do that. But, yeah, Max, it was a great way to end a game. Yeah, great way to... Incredible, but he could have just gone down. You guys won. I don't think the Eagles are ever going to lose again. They're just really good. And you know what?

As a big guy yourself, if you ever had a chance of score, like, you've got to take it. If it ruined my bet, no way. You fall right down. Wouldn't be betting. You'd be playing. Yeah, I would. Jordan Davis, by the way, the first guy ever, possibly that in training camp, when you hear best shape of his life,

that he's actually in the best shape of his life, that he's actually in the best shape of his life. Yeah. And it's like very much apparent. Yeah. It's nice. It's nice to see the big boy run like that. I know. He's a different player this year and it's awesome. Also, the Eagles are going up against, this is kind of like where good teams have to become great teams when they start to get a lot of shit from the league. So the Eagles are now going up against the league who want to ban the push push. Yep. It was another push today that was pretty clearly a false start, but they didn't call it. Yep. They were told to call it tight this week. So the Eagles, are beating the league in that way.

And also, Max, did you hear that the league find Big Dom? Yes. They find them $75,000 this past week. It's a lot of Ziti for using a phone from the bench area during the Eagles Jets preseason game. I don't understand. The best part of this story, though, is the Eagles appeal. Yeah.

Because the Eagles tried to appeal saying he only had one foot in the bench area. He had one foot. I didn't know that. So is having one foot out of the bench? insure? Does that make you out, like out of bounds? Or does that make you in bounds with one foot? Regardless, $75,000 has a lot of money to find a man for using a cell phone. Yeah. I don't understand why. Why? They're out to get him. Anti-attentatans. Yeah, it's very much anti-attalian. This is. It does feel like this is FBI against the mob right now. Yeah. I don't, yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it. We also probably, they probably bugging his phone. He's got to start using burners. God bless our colleague, Stephen Che, because he, like, totally serious.

asked Max if there was a chance Big Dom was texting him in that moment. Oh, did he? Yeah, Max was like, what did you just say to me? He's like, hey, you know when Big Dom got a fine for texting on the bench? Do you think it was texting to you? Yes. He was like, what is this question you're asking me right now? We got to start.

I think he thinks that me and Big Dom just like text like he's my girlfriend. Be like, what's going on? How's your day going? I got a question. Why is that against the rules? I don't know. Oh, yeah, no, I don't know. For Big Dom, who is head of security,

there's probably a good reason why Big Dom as head of security would have his phone on him at all times. Yeah, no, I have no, that makes no sense to me. I don't understand. And it seems like there was another, like, Sequin got a fine today, or they, like, gave him a fine for a play last week where he, like, lowered his head towards another guy. And that was, like, 35,000.

Yeah, yeah. Why was this 75,000? when the other one is like, like, that actually makes sense. Like, you could, like, we're trying to keep, like, the player safe and everything. Well, even, even, if we want to even go further for, for this game, Puka Nukua getting that taunting penalty when he's pointing to the end zone. Let him taunt. That may, yeah.

We are, we are strong. Taunting is bullshit now. We are strong believers on this podcast that they should get to taunt as much as they want. Or at the very least, the 49ers should get to. And specifically in the 49ers, Ricky Piersall and Brian Robinson, Jr. should both be allowed to do the guns. Yeah. Absolutely.

Like, if you walk off a gunshot, then, yeah, you get to use that celebration. But taunting is fun. Taunting is great. The only taunting that shouldn't be allowed is debacks after they do nothing. See, I like it because then they can get, they can, they can have someone catch a ball over their head and then get double taunted on. That's the thing. When you taunt someone, you know that there's a chance that they'll get to taunt you back. Like, Pooka Nakua, what he did was not taunting.

It shouldn't have been a taunting penalty. but let's say Pooka Nakua is like taunting like crazy and then a linebacker hits him over the middle and knocks him out of the game and a linebacker like starts fake digging a grave for him Does the two thumbs down? Yeah, or the step over? That's a taunt off I want to watch.

Yeah, no, I like that. That's a good point. That's a good point. Right, you always have the risk of getting taunted on after you've taunted on someone else. I also think kickers should be allowed to taunt. Because then you can just jack up a kid. Yeah, right.

Yeah, then you can just fuck up a kicker and then talk out of a kicker. Right. I just want, like the animosity going up and up and up. I do want to know what was the content of those texts. Why is the NFL finding Big Dom $75 grand?

It makes no sense. Yeah. Something stinks here. Pablo Tori. Find out. Find out. That's a good ball. Pablo. This is an APB. All Pablo Bulletin. Yeah. All Pablo's out there. Get those texts. Also, how much of his body was in the coaching box. I don't think

it's feet. I think it's like was the majority of his weight out of the coaching box? then I would say that it doesn't count. Was the phone out of the coaching box? Yeah, too. That's where they should judge it by. Yeah, like you just... Pop Bush or get the text messages too,

because I would love to know what he was like... Yeah. Because what he was actually talking about, yeah. Yeah. He's probably ordering food for the guys. Yeah. I think it should be like a three second and, you know, in the lane in college basketball.

Like, you just got to get one foot out and then you can go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Max, truth serum, though, uh, would you want to know what was in the context of Big Dom's text? Not publicly. Yeah. I would like to know.

privately and like keep that close to the chest but I wouldn't want it to come out publicly now Omerta yeah I mean that's that's Big Dom's business and not the media's PFT asked a question I would like to play this game with you Max when are the Eagles going to lose their first game probably next week to the bucks we lose the bucks every time so they play the bucks then the Broncos at home then the Giants

Vikings giants probably somewhere in the Packers Lions range I don't know man the Eagles are really fucking good. And it felt weird though. I thought they were, I thought, I thought the Rams, this was like a perfect, like going to halftime. I was like, man, this is exactly what I thought. The Eagles can't be perfect all the time.

You know, you basically sell out for the run and make them pass and they're a little more limited and then the Eagles just proved me dead wrong, although should have covered, and passed all over the place. There is an issue with Lane Johnson being out because you can sell out to the run all you

want if you're the Rams, which they attempted to do last year and still got steam rule, but with Lane out, it's a different team. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's fine. Okay. What happened? Neck. Lane Johnson says he had a stinger and he expects that he will be back next week. Next stinger. Yeah. It's no big deal.

That's one of those terms that we use. Like, oh, it's just a neck stinger. He'll be fine. And if you actually, like, research what it is, there's like a nerve inside of his neck that's fucked up. And it's like way, it's another injury that's way scarier once you read about than just saying, oh, he's just got neck stinger. Yeah. No big deal. Well, we were saying last week, like, now that it's football season, we need to just

say stink, like, I think everyone on this podcast right now is, I have a stomach stinger, diarrhea, we all have stomach stings. We got asshole stings. Yeah, it's like, not a big deal. I'll be back out in a play. I just got a stomach stinger right now. Everyone gets hurt this time of year. Yeah, right, exactly. Everyone's got something, Hank. I had a brain stinger on Saturday morning. I was hungover as fuck. Oh, that's not good. Brain stinger. I have a question to ask. Yeah. Can we just all admit that when Jalen hurts needs to throw the ball, he can throw the ball? Can we stop with this narrative that he can't pass? He looked great today. You look great today.

But, like, how many times... You're asking me to stop with a narrative. Yeah, I've never started. Well, you're asking me to stop with a narrative that bothers you and I enjoy watching you get bothered. You guys just weren't going to talk about it. Well, no, but you understand the pickle I'm in. Yeah.

Like, you want me to stop doing something that could irritate you? No, I'm not going to do that. But, like, tomorrow, all of the anti-Jelan Hertz can't throw the football, Jalen Hertz can't do this. how can you watch that second half when you needed him to do something to win a football game and he did exactly that take off your head phone all right deal

he's such a bad winner he is he was he was bouncing around before we came in he's like he's like the vibes are so good but it's also like it's like he needs to learn to just embrace the fact that people are like looking for reasons to get mad at Jalen Hertz even though it's like they just won a Super Bowl

he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback Super Bowl winning quarterback And he's a great quarterback So it's like, yes, people are going to try and pick you apart But you can't let it bother you He outdouled Patrick Mahomes twice in Super Bowls Beat the fuck out of him this most recent time Hasn't lost a game where he started and finished since what

How many games? 19 games? 17. And he's very clearly an awesome quarterback And Max wins the game He's like, will you guys please like Jalen Hertz now? Well, here's the thing. Come on.

I've found it. I love the city of Philadelphia Is he a system quarterback? Who knows? I think the city of Philadelphia produces some of like the funniest people obviously die hard die hard fans but you know when philadelphians say like no one likes us we don't care it's just the opposite max cares no one likes it likes them and they do care please like which is fine because like i i understand max get like jalen hurts gets shit on and he wants people

to come correct about him i what i was going to say with max no headphones on jillard's a really fucking good quarterback he's a really good quarter he's very good and when he does have to throw he's really good at throwing and i don't know why they don't throw it more he's He's the exact kind of guy that I would want leading my team. Like, the dude is a winner. Everywhere he's been, he's won. When he got benched, he was still a winner at Alabama, went to Oklahoma, still won football games. The dude's a fucking monster.

You're wrong about one thing, though, big guy. I think Philly, they are, no one likes us, we don't care. Max has just gotten soft since he's moved out of Philly. Oh. And he started to care too much. Got it. It's the Midwest stuff. Yeah, yeah.

But he always got pens in his ears right now. So either way, we agree. Honestly, like, really impressive. We agree that Jalen Hurst is really fucking good. Yeah, he's really good, yeah. Okay, Max, come back. I wish he was in Philly. So Jalen Hertz had 226 yards, which is, like, double what he's had all this year in the first two games.

It's crazy because he has stunk. Yeah. He has been dog shit until today. And he let's, okay, he had a great second half today. Let's be clear. He did. He played one half of full. Great second half.

Maybe maybe the half of the week. I'd like to see him put it together for a full game. It would be nice. It'll be nice. At some point. Okay. You'll have fun listening back to that, Max. Are things okay with him and AJ Brown?

That's a good question. Oh, wait a minute. Did you see this punch that Jordan Milata gave to AJ Brown? Yeah, he might be injured. He might be injured. Could you imagine taking this punch? No. If AJ Brown reacted the way that he reacted,

I really would be dead. I really would be dead. Yeah, no. That's what killed Houdini right there. Yeah. It's seriously insane You can't do that to someone You cannot do that

Jordan by a lot of weighs 400 pounds Of pure muscle Yeah That is a really really mean thing to do And he probably said something hilarious With his kiwi accent and I say like There you go, cunt Yeah

I have one Have one All right Bucks 29 Jets 27 So this was the other crazy game We have one more crazy game We're going to talk about

The Bucks play the funest game possible. They have played three games this season, all three Baker-Mayfield game-winning drives. It was even, remember we used to say about the Seahawks? So the Seahawks would just play the wildest games. The Bucks were dominating this game. And then in the fourth quarter, we're like, you know what, this isn't fun. We got to get, we got to make sure that everyone gets their money's worth. And we're going to let the Jets back into this and just have the craziest shit happen to end the game. And the craziest shit did happen because Tyra, sorry, Tarad had two touchdown drives in the fourth quarter and then to go from six up six to up nine the bucks get a kick

blocked return for a touchdown all-time worst camera angle on a play they just stop showing and I return it and then Aaron Glenn is dancing up the sideline feels like the Jets are going to get their first win oh yeah Baker still had time and drives them for a game winning field goal so that Aaron Glenn celebration was hilarious his dance that he did and that People are going to remember that moment more than they remember anything else from this game. Yep. And I predict that in like late December, maybe into the start of next year, people are going to look back at this game and they'll just assume that the Jets won

because all they remember is Aaron Glenn freaking out on the sidelines, which he should have. I mean, that was an awesome thing that happened. And they came close. The Bucks, they just know they're great in close games because they have Baker Mayfield and they got Bucky Irving. And also, Baker is elite. I'd say he's probably the best quarterback in the NFL at like scouring.

like depth charts and coaching staffs for any team that he's about to play and find somebody that in his mind has wronged him at some point in his career. Yes. And then after the game, he will talk about that. Yes. But all week, I think he spends as much time just looking at guys that he might hate on the other team as he does watching film about the other team because after the game he's on the podium and he goes, yeah, their defensive coordinator was the one that cut me in Carolina.

A lot of stuff was personal today. Hassan Reddick, former jet, a lot of people. this was Hassan Reddick getting revenge against the Jets for for what why is it Remind me again why is for him not showing up And holding out even though he was under contract Okay so for him not Getting a contract extension for the Jets Got it that's what he was pissed off

That's what even though he had never had about He had never played for the Jets On the half of he just he Baker probably just walks around in the locker room before a game He's like you got any beef with them yeah I'd just like to know He probably has a box, like a suggestion box in the locker room. Like put all your hatred in this box so that I can read it and get mad for you. Yeah.

But memes, can I give you a little bit of a silver lining? Or it's like a weird stat for the Jets. Yeah. Did you know that the Jets are tied with their opponents and touchdowns? Hmm. They've scored exactly as many touchdowns as their opponents have this year. That's pretty cool. That is cool.

Yeah. That's really cool. So, I mean, there's other stuff that's involved in football like, fuel goals. But at least you have that. And you don't have to fire Aaron Glenn, right? Yeah, don't have to fire Aaron Glenn. That was a, that was a non-compete for three quarters, including the, the, the, the, the Tarad Taylor pick six to end the half was just so Jets. It was like, how they played tough in the first half, and then he throws a pick six with like 45 seconds left for no reason. But then they, they woke up and they played hard in the fourth

quarter. So where are you at overall? It sucked. That sucked because all you needed was one stop there to get your first win. But where are you at overall? Quarters 1 through 3 looked like a maybe one win team. The defense still absolutely got awful. Unfortunately, football season is over right now. Oh, you've ended it? Well, your own three and statistically issues. A hockey started. Hockey did start. You got the Mets at least. Oh, that was mean. Max just took his head, like, don't say that.

That was fucked up. That was really mean what you just did. They're going to make the playoffs, right? That was really mean, really mean. I thought they were. I thought they were. I thought they. No. I mean, they still might. So, but.

They put the nasty. The nationals had a center fielder turn into prime Jim Evans out of nowhere. You guys, uh, you guys have. I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have done that. I'm not leaving the studio alive. You have the Dolphins next week Yeah, that'll be a loss

By the way, did you guys see Not to go ahead to week four But our Monday night double header next week Let me just say this statement There's four quarterbacks playing Bo Nix is the best quarterback By a large margin In the four teams that are playing

All right, I've not looked at the schedule at all for next week So let me just try to guess Saints By how on They just played Monday night football I don't think they make them do two Monday night double-headers in the same like three weeks. So I'm going to go with 49ers.

Bonex by a large margin. Large margin. Large margin. Are the Bengals playing? The Bengals are playing. So it is Jake Browning. It is Terad Taylor. It is Tua and Bo Nix.

Wow. Yeah. Someone's got to play well out of that. Yeah. The odds have to be something good happened. That might be just. The Jets are the backup game, like the Joe Bucks on the... Yeah, but we're going to watch both.

Are they staggering them, or are they going, like, one right after the other, like they did last? No, they're, it's just a staggered start. It's not like, I think it's early, like a 615 and 7.15. So one of the games should be competitive. Yeah. So, but you guys can win that game. You'll be favored. I bet you can win any game.

Whose line is anyway? Draft King's Sportsbook. Jets, Dolphins. at the Jets? At the Dolphins. Oh, at the Dolphins. Jets have won in Miami in 10 years. Dolphins look good on Thursday.

Don't show it. Let me think. I'm going to say... Many buy for the Finns. Dolphins minus one. Dolphins minus three. No, Dolphins minus, I'm going to say three and a half. Two and a half.

Two and a half. Okay. You got that one. I said one. Zach. Yes, sir. What, like the box? You're a Bucks fan. You have a great Bucks shirt on right now.

So early on the game, a lot of holding penalties, a lot of flags going up in the air. That made me nervous. I was a little nerve-wracked on that. A lot of guys out on the offensive line. I wasn't sure how today was going to go. The boys played good. Solid defense. Bucky Irving, nice to watch. Baker-Mayfield kind of did his thing.

Mbuka, two catches. The second catch, they ruled not a catch. I think that was a catch. He's shown good hands. Mike Evans hamstring injury kind of worried about that but I'm seeing we might be able to get Tristan worst and Godwin back for week four

Was it a hamstring injury or was he celebrating? No, he was a hamstring. He's hurt, you went to the locker room. I want to clear that up for Hank. Yeah, yeah, that's a good clear-up. Zach, I got a stat about the bucks here. Yes, sir. Did you know that they had 100 rushing yards

they allowed fewer than 100 rushing yards in 11 straight games? I was unaware of that, but that's very promising. That makes you feel good. It's the longest streak in NFL history That's just that they've done that That should just be the Vita V-Ve stat Yeah

Abuka had six catches by the way He's awesome You have a bona fide star in Abuka Because like I think Wide receivers Are the position where if they Like Obviously a wide receiver can get good

After drafting them Like they could take a year or two But I think wide receivers have like The most pop Of any position where you can right away know Like that guy's a stud Do you know what I mean? Has there been a guy that's like

lit up the league in his rookie year and then completely falling off afterwards at wide receiver currently maybe brian thomas yeah it's a little early it's a little early i'm still buying stock of eyeballs yeah yeah but yeah he abuka's awesome he's awesome he is every time mike evans talks about him it i get a little nervous because he uh he almost refers to like passing of the torch as if he's going to retire next year yeah but if there's a guy to pass it to he's definitely the one yeah yeah and i will say for the box like the big thing with the box is They're 3-0. Baker's a dog.

They have to figure out a way to get healthy and stop having injuries because the Bucks today had none of their starting five offensive linemen playing their actual position. So they all were interchangeable because they've had so many injuries. It will hopefully get a little bit better when what's the name, Gotaki comes back and also when Tristan Worf comes back. But they got to get that figured out. They got to get some guys healthy.

Mike Evans, obviously, that sucks. Yeah. but the bucks are good did you hear Todd Bowles after the game got jokes yeah Todd Bulls got jokes he said they asked him what what was Payne Durham saying to him after they won the game and because I guess they gave each other a hug

and he said me and Payne Durham have a relationship not many people know about we're secret lovers oh what's that what's going on in Tampa I don't know it's not a secret anymore if I was Payne Durham I'd be upset about this yeah that's that is your secret levels He also said you've got to, when he was asked about the Jets blocking the field goal for a touchdown,

he said his response in the moment was, you've got to be fucking shitting me. That's great. Yeah. That is great. Todd Bowles, show her a little personality. I like that. I think it has something to do with him having the game management coach. Yeah.

So that he doesn't have to, like, that would take Todd Bull's brain a good two hours to come down from where it got, it cooled off like a CPU. For a second there because you, yeah. Yeah. I thought you said game management coach. A game management. Did he? Might have? Well, I was talking about him and Peterham are secret lovers.

I think that was worth the same line of thinking right there. Game management. He's got a game management coach. But you know what I'm saying? Like with the guy that's telling him the clock scenarios and what to do. Game management. I think his brain would still be like working too hard after a game trying to figure out the scenarios. Yeah.

Now he's like cutting loose a little bit after the game because he's got all this creative mental energy. Yeah. Memes. Can I give you Aaron Glenn's post game comment? he said the one thing I don't do which I understand New York media tries to do is the negative parts of it I'm not going to be that way I'm going to let you guys deal with that we're going to look at the things we did well so memes that is your coach give us something you did well and let's not do negatives they came back okay huge huge that's that's all they did well the defense is terrible but to come back

you have to do something well yeah that's true so what was that so the buck stopped blitzing and they were just playing drop coverage and Ty Rob was just being able to pick them apart that was good but the defense didn't do anything well

the defense line wasn't that bad but the secondary issue is just absolutely gross yeah so you said going in this weekend that if they allowed 28 points you wanted Aaron Glenn fired but the defense didn't allow 28 points. No, Tyro Taylor, pick six. Yeah.

Yeah. So the defense played better. Played better, but still very bad. All right. Well, I mean, these are positive. You know what? This might be a Wednesday checking on me. Okay.

Is to do the positive. I just saw his coach say that. So I was like, and I agree because it's very hard to be positive after a loss on Sunday. That happens on Wednesday and Thursday and Friday. You get back. Your brain gets back. The Bucky Irving play was so bad.

Which one? The one where he. All seven of them Oh yeah That one was bad I actually liked it That was in the first half That was that made me nervous about the must compete

Because what I In the moment I said it looked like Those videos when Like a soccer player Plays against like a hundred A professional soccer player plays against like a hundred five year old Asian kids And they're all like in a group like running around Like a pack of fish and they can't get up to them

That's what the Jets look like on defense Now Yeah, it does look like they're playing on different surfaces from Bucky Irving, who's able to, like, move and change directions, and the Jets, they just can't stop. Yeah. All right, well, Bucks 3 and O, and 3. I think the Jets, they pass the must compete. They pass the must compete.

I also like that the Bucks that they brought in Desmond Watson for a workout. Yeah. But they didn't sign them. They just brought them in. They're like, hey, you should probably work out today. Do you think there's a chance they brought them in because, When he was at camp, he had, like, walked on the same portion of the grass and, like, killed the grass. They're, like, we got to bring you back to even it out.

Do your trail. Yeah. The trail's growing in a little bit. Come back. Come back and just even this whole practice field out. I think they're just having workouts. That was mean. I think they're just having, like, hey, do you want to join the class?

Yeah. We're doing Ty Bo. Yeah. Yeah. It was probably like the coaches. It's a morin's theory. Like all the, yeah, all the coaches are like, hey, we're going to stay in shape this season two guys. We're going to do, we're going to do some Pilates.

before practice. Everybody get in early. Yeah, we'll call Desmond. I'm rooting for him to make a roster, and I would love to see him play next week against the Eagles for the tush push, because that would be awesome. Him next to Vita V has a lot of weight in that front of line. A lot of weight to push in that. Yeah.

Okay. Sorry, last thing on the Jets. Their first three opponents combined 8 and 1, so that's like the only there we go. That's the only actual positive. And then you play the dolphins, who do you have after the dolphins? Dolphins, Cowboys, Broncos in London

Okay And the Panthers, I believe It does get easier But I mean It's just a uphill battle You just the way week one and three went It's like just get one of those wins Be one and two

Yeah Fields next week Maybe He's got to do the whole protocol now Tarad was actually kind of elusive in the pocket today He was he was He was moving around He wasn't that bad

But when they were just strictly blitzing. He couldn't do anything. Yeah. Okay. Next up, the other game that was incredible ending, Browns 13 Packers 10. This was, this was crazy. This was shocking because it was a really, like, you know, it was defensive battle. The Brown's defense is legit as legit could be. Mason Graham is awesome. Adding him to that defensive line has been incredible for the Brown's defense and what they're able to do. to other teams. So here's a couple stats just to talk about the Brown's defense real quick because they won the game. Joe Facko had a nice drive at the end,

but it was the Brown's defense that carried the day. So far, the Brown's defense has held Chase Brown to 21 carries 43 yards. Derek Henry, 11 carries 23 yards. Josh Jacobs 16 carries 30 yards.

Those are some pretty good running backs, and they've completely stonewalled them. The Brown's defense kept them in this game. I was looking at it. The Brown's offense is not good, not explosive. They had 3.9 yards per play, which is not good. But they were in the game because the Browns defense held the Packers to 3.8 yards per play. Yes, so this is actually the first game that the Browns have not outgained their opponent.

Yeah. You can believe that. And it's their first win. Their 0 and 2 when out gaining their opponent, they're 1 and 0 when their opponent outgains them. Kind of crazy to think about. They also got fucked. They got fucked on that fumble that Josh Jacobs had. It ended up being kind of like ball don't lie.

Yep. But the Browns very clearly got screwed. Like there was a 15-minute span where I saw three calls. I'm trying to remember the other two, but there were three calls that were very clearly, like should have been overturned, should have gone a different way. And for whatever reason, the replay review did not work on them. The Browns got fucked on that one. But their defense is elite.

Yes. Like one of the best defenses in the entire league. Going to keep them in every single game. I know it didn't obviously last week against the Ravens, but that game again was closer than the final score because of some of the special team stuff in turnover. And Mason Graham is probably the defensive rookie of the year right now. I would say so. He's awesome.

He's got a 43% pass rush win rate against the Packers. That sounds really high. Average for a defensive tackle is 9%. Yeah, for a defensive tackle. So 43% to 9%. And they've got Miles Garrett. Yeah. And they had, let's give credit where credits do.

Joe Flacco, maybe the operation of the week? Yeah. Was that the operation? It was the operation of the week. An awesome operation at the end of the game where they had the ball in the middle of the field the center ran up, spotted the ball for the ref who came in just tap, just booped at the end of it

they got to snap off they spiked it in time for the field goal where Smith went out there and made it. That was the operation of the week. Incredible. Incredible job but that's a veteran move by Joe. And shout out Andre Schmidt. He gets, you know, he was cost him week one, won this game

with a 55 yard field goal. Really cool to see him like bounce back like that. And the Browns get their first win. And it was I know that it doesn't, it's crazy to say this, but that was a shocking comeback because the Browns were down 10 under four minutes. And with this Browns offense, that feels like 100. And they're able to win the game in regulation, not in overtime, in regulation,

a lot of, because of the block field goal and also because Jordan Love threw a terrible interception. Yeah. So they got their first two turnovers of the year in the last four minutes of the game. Yeah. Pretty crazy. And one of the game. Good for the Browns. I like the neon brown uniforms too.

All right. So I like him, but they also make some of the guys look like a little fat. Yeah. Joku looked maybe 50 pounds heavier than he looks. That's fine. That's a price you pay. I know that Nujoku's like shredded. Yeah.

But in that jersey, he looked, he looked fat. Yeah. The neon brown, it's got its gives and takes. Yeah. I thought it would, for the browns, it's awesome. Yeah. Let me read you guys a quote real quick. I'll just say the quote

and then I'll tell you who it's from I think we can go undefeated pound for pound I look at these teams I don't really see who's better than us honestly Michael Parsons That was left tackle Rashid Walker Okay And then the Browns defense

Did what they did To the Packers Well teams are now 0 and 2 The week after they play the commanders Oh wow There's a little stat everyone's talking about That's a huge because they get beat up so bad Yeah, physicality.

I'd like that to continue the Bears play the Raiders next week. That's right. So let's, yeah. A little tip to us. So, and then the bills should beat the Falcons in week five. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Also, Quinnshon Jenkins looks pretty good. Yeah, Quinchon, he's definitely, he's RV1. Yeah. RB one for sure. Is, did Toyotathon come early this year? I don't know. For Jordan Love? Oh, maybe.

I don't know. It might have. He didn't look great. no i mean i i i'm not going to i'm going to be measured in the fact that the brown's defense i think is really fucking good uh but yeah no that that interception was bad i don't know i don't know if he didn't see the guy or if there was a route run wrong but that changed the game because it did feel like the browns were had no chance and then that happened uh and yeah they just hung around hung around hung around until they could pounce on them and the packers get their first

loss. And I still think the Packers are really, really good. There was a video this week of Jaden Reed after he had his surgery, and he was still under the anesthesia coming out of it, and he was just looking at it. He went live on his phone from the hospital bed as he was still drugged up, and all he was talking about how the Packers, their goal was to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. He's like, this is awesome. Our team, so we're going to win this. That's a team that's locked in right there. Yeah. When he's subconscious, when he could be talking about anything else, where am I? Would be a natural question to ask. He's just like, yeah, we're going to win the Super Bowl this year. Listen, I don't know how.

how the Packers don't win the Super Bowl, unless the Browns are in it, because the Browns just beat them as eight and a half point underdogs. NFL makes no sense game of the week. Yeah. Survivor League, busted. Everyone's Survivor. Bust it. They definitely, a lot of people probably took the Packers.

So good for the Browns. I'm happy for the Browns because they, like this deep, they have an identity. I don't know what the future is going to hold for Joe Flacco for the rest of the year, but, like, they will be in most games because of this. defense and how nasty they are and you saw it today where it's like that's a if you're if you're averaging i think they went they went four for 13 on third down and like i said they average 3.9 yards per play that's tough to win a game like that unless you have an elite elite defense and that's what they showed today that they do yeah so uh and yeah man it's just a shame the

packers i thought they were going to go undefeated i thought they were going to beat everyone and then they just couldn't beat the browns i am kind of holding back a little bit because the Bears do have to play the Browns and that defense. But still, that pick was bad. What if the Packers were like the Saints from last year? Oh, we were all looking for the Colts to be the Saints from last year and the Colts are still a wagon.

It was actually the Packers. Packers. Man, that would be a shame. That would be a damn shame. That would be a real shame. A real, real shame. Does it make you feel, are we doing transit of property at all? No, no, I was thinking about doing the transit of property for this game

and thinking to myself, wow, the Commander's might really, really suck because we got the shit kicked out of us by the Packers, and they just lost the Browns. But then I just spin zoned it into being like, wait, we played them last week. That's probably why they're so banged up, and that's why they lost the Brown. So I thought that was a good way to get over. That's smart. I think also there was maybe some booze for Joe Flacco, which, I mean, listen, he can handle it.

And also, their offense was bad for a really long time. They're saying beautiful ball. Yeah. Beautiful operation They didn't see the operation They weren't boomed the operation Incredible operation Incredible operation

10 points in 37 seconds The Browns Watch out Do you think Dylan Gabriel gets that operation off No chance You think Shador gets that operation off No chance

That's Joe Fleco Yep Something about Flacko Bailey Zappy might get that operation off And then throw a pick Deshawn Watson might get that operation off I'm just pumped for Andre Schmidt Because that is

Yeah He misses that And it's curtains for him Yeah probably for his career that think about how much pressure is on that kick for him specifically where it's like he misses that kick and it wasn't an easy kick but in it you know in addition to week one the browns probably cut him and everyone's like well he's not good and now he's a hero and they get their first win and i feel like these just like having that one win where it's like hey you can still fight and uh yeah

they they have a tough schedule but it doesn't matter they're going to be in some games i'm happy for the brown yeah i am too the dog pound also uh i found out my assistant dom for the first time in four years didn't wear his uh he has a gigantic brown's uh necklace that's just a dog bone didn't wear it today he's got to bury it got to be gone forever can't ever wear it again i agree you guys agree i agree yeah this is also just so funny because it's a gigantic necklace and it's it no like it's just a ridiculous look but that's also why you got to love browns fans uh still just drive up like dogs and like what you know you're the one with the problem why don't you have your dog

face on so the uh the browns they were first and run defense going into this game i'm sure they're still first and run defense got to be they were third and past defense overall they're still probably top five in that yep first and total defense yep probably still that yep nasty yeah yeah really good nasty nasty team if they had a quarterback that just didn't turn the ball over it was a game manager, like Flacco, they could be real force. Yeah, yeah. Okay, before we get to the next game, game time. The NFL is back, tailgates, pack, stands.

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Steelers 21, Patriots 14. Henry that was a lot of fumbles yeah a lot of turnovers Drake May played well I thought the defense played a lot better I thought Drake May took a lot of hits like there was two pretty solid shots to the head that one of them was right before

the interception he threw in the end zone which he got concussed the ball was the ball was tipped but it literally went from replay of his head smashing into the ground and then he threw an interception so I think there's a little bit of leeway there Remodre Stevenson, I don't know how much leeway he gets. Probably not a lot. So he fumbled twice?

Yeah, twice. He fumbled a lot last year. And going back, I think, like six or seven games, that's his six or seven fumbles. You guys had, so the Patriots had five turnovers, four fumbles, two turnovers inside the Pittsburgh two yard line. So twice you're basically giving up six points for a turnover. One was an interception in the end zone. The other was Remandre Shevinson, like, basically. basically six inches from the goal line, getting it punched out.

This is a crazy stat. Last time the Patriots had four fumbles in a game, lost four fumbles in a game. 99. 1992 versus Bill Belichick's Cleveland Browns. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Interesting. Yeah, wild stat.

But this game was, it was, and the Steelers, like, the fact the Steelers only won by seven with five turnovers, that, especially with two on the goal line. I don't think the Steelers are very good. The Patriots should be kicking themselves because they should have won this game. I was looking at it. This game is summed up if you miss this game by the way the third quarter started. So I'm going to read you the drive, the drives to start the third quarter. This is the first eight minutes of the third quarter.

Pittsburgh started with the ball. Three plays, zero yards interception. Patriots get the ball. Two plays, ten yards, fumble. Steelers get the ball Three plays minus two yards punt Patriots get the ball Three plays 11 yards fumble

Steelers get the ball three plays three yards punt So there were Field position There were There were a total of Five drives to start the third quarter Three turnovers Two punts not a single first down

And it felt like that It was just like both offenses The Patriots were able to move the ball Then they would just fumble and the Steelers weren't able to move the ball. They would just get the fumble. Yeah, and the last play of the game. Yeah, to Mario Douglas.

Fourth and one caught the ball basically on the line to gain and then took two steps backwards, got tackled. He ran away from the first down. It was nuts. And it was a freeze frame situation where, you know, the classic Mitch Trubisky, like, you know, picture where it's like if you look at the freeze frame, it looks bad.

The freeze frame of, like, where he caught the ball, there's no defenders in sight or like within reach of him in that freeze frame and it's like he didn't get a first down here his momentum at the time was also kind of scary yeah it wasn't as bad yeah it wasn't as bad in real time but even Drake May after the game said like I got to do a better job telling you know

my teammates that what we need to do it's like he tomorrow Douglas should just know like I need to get a yard good answer by Drake May yeah I I should do that's on me I need to do a better job telling my wide receivers to get a first down when it's fourth down and I'm throwing them the ball. That's my fault, guys. I mean, Drake may easily outplayed Aaron Rogers.

Yeah. Aaron Rogers is old. I don't know what to say. Like, they don't, I feel like the Steelers are just the same team as last year and the year before, the year before that, where their offense just doesn't have any pop. Yeah, the offense. A little more pop. A little bit. I would take Rodgers over Russie.

Yes, I would agree to that. I don't know. He doesn't throw deep. They're taking away the deep ball. Russie does throw. throw deep. He's not good. He does. Yeah, but he throws it so high. I agree. When Russie throws deep, the ball

does not hit the ground. Fact or fiction? Fact. Yeah, fact. Fact. Yeah, he's not like letting it rip or anything, but I think he's a major upgrade over Russ Wilson from last year. I just feel like when you close your eyes and you think about this Pittsburgh Steelers offense in what's been like the last four or five years, what play comes to mind?

There's a couple. There's the like two-yard gain from Naji. There's the like tight end out route that you run like three yards downfield and catch it and go out of bounds for three yards. Yeah. And then you do a variation of that with kind of like a screen pass to George Pickens who then catches it and runs out of

bounds. What I was going to say is when I think of like the Steelers offense, and it might get better, but I just think of a checkdown to a running back where he catches the ball behind the line of scrimmage and there's three defenders basically running at him all at the same time for gain of one.

Yeah, that sounds right, too. That's a staple of theirs. Yeah. I had an idea today for rule change. I think that any pass that's thrown behind the line of scrimmage should count as a fumble if it hits the ground. I like that. So, like, yeah, I'm not talking about where the quarterback is, obviously.

You're not talking about it in Mahomes. But where the ball's going, if it's going to a running back that's two yards in the backfield, if that hits the ground, treat it as a fumble. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Everyone would just be diving on balls all the time. Yeah, would rock. Yeah.

But, yeah, Hank, you're right. Stevenson doghouse he's in variable's doghouse yeah because Drake may play good enough to win the game and your defense played good enough to win the game you just gave the ball up five times and two of them yeah yeah two of them going in yeah uh and yeah i don't know i i think i mean the steelers defense played a little bit better but did they because it was a lot of the so the the punch there was a good punch out on remandre shevinson on the fumble uh going in so that that's defense But, like, you can't expect to get five takeaways in a game because it felt like the Patriots moved the ball

and then the takeaways happened. So I don't know if the Steelers improved defensively or they were just able to be opportunistic with the ball. But don't break. That's what Steele does. Right, but you need to also... Except investigate Building 7. Yeah.

Bend don't break, but also make sure you get the fumbles when they're on the goal line. Yeah, that's true. I mean, look at the Browns. They didn't have a single turnover in the first two weeks. They were great at defense. they lost those two games. Steelers, bad defensively today, had a lot of forced turnovers. Yep.

Won the game. Yeah. I guess it just comes down to like, if the Steelers can get back to the defense that they've had in the past, I do think this is going to be a decent team. If it's the defense we saw through the first two weeks and maybe a little bit of today when the ball gets moved on them, it's going to be tough because I don't know how much pop their offense has. Yeah.

But they're two and one, so who cares? Now, do you feel like Aaron Rogers is going to pull the Jalen Hertz and be like, we don't deserve to celebrate this because we've played like shit? Or is he going to be like the perspective thing of I've been in this league a long time. It's hard to win. Celebrate every win, boys. I would say celebrate every win. Also, Aaron Rogers passed Brett Far for fourth most passing touchdowns in the NFL history. It's 509. That's a lot of touchdowns. Good for him. And they did get a lot of pressure on Drake May, which I guess that would be the big takeaway is maybe the Steelers pass rush is back. and that's, if they can get that back, then they will be just fine. Yeah, Hank, what are you guys going to do at running back? Is this travi on time?

Vrable said we need remandre. I don't know if he was just saying that. I think we'll probably, we'll see more travion. So he might not be in the doghouse then. I don't know if that was just coach speak of, I don't know. No, because I feel like guys like Vrable and Belichick, too, if they've got, if a guy is in their dog house, they're not shy about letting people know, hey, I've got a dog house, this guy's in it.

Yeah. I think we'll see more. Yeah. Because I think he might be good. And shout out Derek Harmon making his NFL debut. That is probably why the Steelers defense was played the best game they had of the season. He had a sack. T.J. Watt had two sacks. Their pass rush got picked up by him.

That was their first round pick from Oregon. So it feels like that might be the boost they needed. What are you going to say? Like, Trayvion had two and a half yards of carry. He had 11 carries for 28 yards today. so it's not like he was... I didn't say, I thought he was good. I said, I think he's going to be good.

Stats max. I think he's a good player. Ramondri had a bad game, but Trayvion also had a bad game. Yeah, but I'm saying which one is a rookie? Yeah, no, I agree. I don't necessarily mean that just because he's a rookie, he's a good player. I agree with that. But I think he's good.

Yeah, we agree. I think he will be good. Do you think he's a bad player? Trevion did not fumble. No, I don't... Drake May were the other two fumbles. I'm just not, I'm saying it's not like Trayvion Henderson's running away with this job.

According to film guys, Trayvion's lost out there. He can't pass it. He can't block. Is what the, what the take is. That makes sense. He can't pass. With the ball in his hand, dynamic. Yes. Maybe. Maybe, but also, what were the stats? Eleven carries, 28 yards.

That's not true. He's also receiving back. Yeah, he did catch three balls for 19 yards. That's pretty good. Not really. 6.3 yards per reception. That's solid. That's good. Ramandre had three receptions for 38 yards.

Fumbles. Well, Travion had three targets, and he caught all three for 100% target catch rate. Remandre also had three targets. And he caught all three. For 100%. Yeah. With a long of 23. No, I'm not saying that like ones, but it's just that it makes it harder to be like, oh, we have to push more Travion-Henderson,

when Trayvion Henderson hasn't isn't running away with the job. Yeah, no, you're right because I think he should be the more dynamic of the two running backs. Right. But he might be the one of the doghouse for not being able to block.

Yeah. He is. Yeah. There we go. We came all the way around. That's why Brable's like, my dog house isn't big enough for two the guys.

We need remandreter. Yeah. We've got to get one of these guys out of the doghouse for the net. It's one in one out. Yeah. Because I think Vrable's doghouse

usually has a kicker in there. but I'd say his doghouse and Belichick's are the worst doghouses to be in. Maybe Saban's doghouse. If you had, if we had to say right now, right now, week three, and it's obviously way too early, do the Pittsburgh Steelers make the playoffs? Yes. I would say so, too. And I think they win a game.

And you do, yeah, you're on record is saying they're going to win a game. On record. On record, win a game. I would agree, though. I think there's some, there's a cliff that the AFC kind of falls off. And I feel like the Steelers will be above that cliff. Yeah. They have a good schedule.

They have to go to Ireland, play the Vikings. They got Carson once, Joe Flacco, Browning, next three games. Oh, okay. So that should help fix the defense a little. Wasn't there over there? The defense again, they go through Medi Conlet after that. Wasn't the Steelers owner of the ambassador to Ireland? Yeah. The Roonies. Yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah. Okay. Next game, we've got PFT, your game. Commanders, 41, Raiders, 24, Marcus Marriota. Is he the best backup in the NFL right now? I think so. Played pretty well. I think he might be Therod. Joe Milton? Joe Milton's really good. Joe Milton's really good. It's basically Mariotta or Wentz. Yeah. Mary, yeah. Why, just hearing that. We'll get, we'll get the wets. You know, you know how to us? We'll get to wets. Okay, there's two things in this world that They give me goosebumps in a bad way when I hear them. One is when somebody says the name Carson Wentz, when I'm not expecting it.

And the second is when Memes goes, PFT. Yeah. Because I know that means he's about to ask me to do an ad. You have no idea how mad you would be at memes if you know what he just said to these muted mics back here. Oh, please tell. What do you say? Do it PIFT.

I mean memes. I just said I was just like, what if Marcus Marriota's best quarterback on the Washington Commander Rosser? Oh, I like that. That's good. Are we ready to have a conversation? I don't think he is. We can't have a conversation.

I don't think he is the best backup. I think he's going to have who put up the most points. I also think that we have maybe the best third string quarterback in the NFL. Joe Johnson. Oh, pretty good for a third string quarterback. I don't know who that is. Oh, sorry, Josh Johnson. Yes.

Josh Johnson. Yes. Joe Johnson, great hawk. Great hawk. Yeah, great hawk. No, Marcus played, he played pretty well today. He had a bad fumble, but it was after a sweet run. And it seemed to me like the Raiders are just, they're not.

not a great football team. Well, I was just to say Mariotto was, he did exactly what a backup needs to do. He was good. It wasn't like he, I think your defense was what the story was today because you guys absolutely harassed the fuck out of Gino and shut down Ash and Genty.

Ash and Genty had 17 carries for 63 yards, but more than that, 11 of his 17 rushes he was hit at or behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah. That's some good pressure. Yeah, it was pretty good to see from her defensive line

Johnny Newton had a couple big plays out there Bobby Wagner got two sacks he's old as fuck it should also be said that on Bobby's two sacks like the Raiders pass protection is very bad yeah really bad no Gino's like he's in hell yeah he's in hell he's not getting out of hell

and it was uh it felt it was closer than it should have been after the first half because there were some costly turnovers and some just minor mistakes that the commanders were making the first half I felt I did not feel comfortable going into the second half, even though we were winning, I think, 20 to 10 at halftime

because there were these small things that kept happening where if you're playing a bad team, that's the kind of games that you would lose to a bad team. I think what I can say about the commanders is, no, I'm not thinking soupy, but I'm reaffirmed in my belief that they're a good team, but they're not a great team because good teams blow out teams that they should beat. Yes.

And that's typically what happens with the commanders. Meems, did you want to start the conversation? You're giggling back there. Yeah, let's start it. Okay, you go first. Is Marcus Marriota the guy? I don't think so. Why?

Because I think Jane Daniels is better. What if he started that NFC championship game? We'll never know. We'll never know. So I guess the answer is we'll never know. If Marcus Mariotta is better. We'll never know. Add a third bad goosebumps.

Memes starting the conversation. Yeah, memes started. Come on memes. I'll give you another shot at it. Take a swing. I don't know. Okay. All right.

I disagree. Good job. He did unlock Luke McCaffrey, which was nice. Yeah. Also, Dan Quinn, all-time football guy, got concussed bloody. Yeah. Javon Kinlaw, after the game, said he jumped up like it wasn't shit. We're going to ride for a motherfucker like that.

Yeah, I love that. And Dan Quinn, after the game, handed out game balls, and then Frankie Louvo gave him the game ball back. And Dan Quinn, the way that he looked at a football, that man was on the moon. Yeah. But he might have gotten better at coaching after he got concussed. I agree. It's like it woke him up. He's an old linebacker. Yeah. He likes contact. His nose was bloody as fuck during the game. That was awesome to see. It was just, it was a good game for the commanders. McNichols ran really well, had that long touchdown run. And, uh, and Bill got in the end zone again, which is cool to say. Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill. Also, oh, this was one of the other ones that replay screwed up. Terry

McCloran scored a touchdown. Yeah. So Bill should not have had the opportunity to score that touchdown because Terry dove into the end zone, his knee did not hit the ground. They did expedite review. And on expedited review, they saw the first replay, which we all saw and thought to ourselves, oh, he's down at the one. Yeah.

And then they showed the other angle, and his knee was clearly not on the ground. So Terry got fucked on that deep ball. We also had Max Crosby, who I, can we, I know Max Crosby, I don't want to just trade people off of the Raiders. But I would like to see Max Crosby play in playoff football. And, yeah, he levitated for a sack on Marcus Marieto where there were just guys all around him and he's just like, I'm still going to get the quarterback. He was getting cut by Bill who hit him in the quads and then he just fell over him and grabbed Marriota and took him to the ground. Yeah.

He's so good. Unreal play by Mac. And I feel bad like Raiders are just, it's a work in progress. I also don't really understand Gino's quote after the game. He said, I believe in Raider Nation. I know we can get this thing headed in the right direction and that's what I'm focused on

I can't wait to get back to work solve these problems and come out next week with a new enthusiasm what does Raider Nation have to do with playing better football I believe in Raider Nation I think he's saying

please don't call for my job okay but I think who's like shout out to fans yeah yeah who's the backup in Vegas is AOC still I don't know did they get hurt right did they bring someone in

they did not mention shoe no no he brought someone in can he pick it that's right pick it can he pick it so they've got a pretty he's got a pretty good insurance policy yeah uh i have a dumb rule i'd like to propose to the group uh and this is maybe a rule that could be for every single play but i want it specifically for uh kickoff returns and punt returns so jalen lane had an incredible punt return there was a flag thrown right at the beginning of it and I was obviously in the gambling cave with PFT and he celebrated but wasn't able to celebrate fully

because he's like oh it's a flag on a punt return it's going to be on us I think they need to have different colored flags for offense and defense I like that rule proposal I also maybe they could do it like they do in soccer on an off sides call so you don't throw the flag if it's against the defense on a return until somebody's tackled But you got robbed of an electric punt return

I didn't enjoy the moment Because you're like oh there's a flag There's a 90% chance it's going to be a hold Because otherwise why did he get so free So yeah I don't know what I don't know what they can do Maybe there's a blue flag and a yellow flag And it actually would be kind of sick If they did that for every single play

So that you could just see the color And know right away that's on us Or that's on them Because that happens a lot where you'll get a big play downfield And there'll be a flag and you'll say Oh shit it's coming back And be like oh no it's the other way.

I like that idea a lot. Yeah. Because for the first, here's how my reaction went. He starts to break away. Then I say, this is coming back. Yeah, you saw the flag was instant. Any good football fan says, this is going to come back. Yep.

And then you start to think about it and think about where the flag was thrown. You're like, well, maybe the gunner went out of balance. Yeah. That could be against the kicking team. But yeah, I was robbed of a moment of joy. Also, our special team today was awesome. Debo was electric in the return game. He had one for 69 yards.

He had two for a total of 93. yards on kick returns. Not fat. Not fat. Luke McCaffrey's return was great. And then obviously Jalen Lane had the return for a touchdown. So good day at the office for the special teams. Well, Goodell, I know you're not Adam Silver so you don't take advice from the fans. But let's just figure it out. Let's figure out a way to just make it. Maybe it's even, maybe it's not different colored flags. Maybe it's just the ref has a, they do have mics, but they can just whisper offense or defense. And the, the graphic can show. Yeah. Which side.

You could pop up the flag on each side Because I just hate being I watch you get robbed of a great punt return Of the enthusiasm of a great punt return It was a great return shout out Jalen Lane, the hokey, rookie Yeah You guys like that idea? You could even do pink flags for breast cancer

PFT had another good, dumb idea rule today What was that? That all passes behind the line of distribution We already said that. Oh, thanks for listening. Wow, it's called part of my take, sports podcast I think you enjoy it. Yep.

We talk about the Eagles a lot, say great things about Jalen Hertz. was probably when I had my ear plugs in. No, it was like, it was like five minutes ago? I think that was when I had my earplugs in. Is there a chance that you shoving two pins into your ears might have damage your hearing? Definitely possibility. Do you remember the Simpsons episode when they had the view from Otto, the dog, right? Otto was a bus driver.

Oh, no, who's the... Santa's Little Helper? Santa's Little Helper, sorry. Santa's Little Helper. And it was like what he sees. And it's just gibberish, gibberish, gibberish. and then it'd be like sit and he could understand sit I imagine Max sits in the booth and it's just jibbers jibbers jibbers jibbers jibbers jibbers jibbers jibbers eagles

jibbers jibbers no hitter yeah jibbers gibbers gibberish meatballs and he's like oh that's a word I know I thought I was pretty locked in today too there's days where I know my brain's not in it this should this game should probably start to quiet the Tom Brady narrative no disagree Oh, because he prepped for Jaden Daniels when he was doing the Redskins game, the commander's game. No, no, no. Next week, he called the Bears game and the Bears play the Raiders. The very next week. But he called the commanders game week one. Right, but that's enough time where you can change it. This is the week.

Okay. If the Bears lose the Raiders, it will 100% because there was something at play. Yep. I'm just getting myself ready. Because how else? I'm so excited for Gene to come back. but Mime said that you're fine. I think that we are fine and that Marcus Marriota is not bad. Yeah.

I don't think he should be a starting quarterback anywhere, but I think if you're going to have Marcus Marriota as your backup, you're probably pretty happy with yourself. Yeah, he's good. Yep. He's a good backup. Okay, Jaguars 17, Texans 10, the Texans are in trouble.

They're bad. CJ Stroud needs to play better. And if you're a Texans fan listening to this right now you're like, how could you say that? Well, I didn't say that. C.J. Stroud actually said that. He said, I need to play better. Can we have the conversation?

Hard discussions. That we were starting to have about five months ago. And then C.J. Stroud himself asked us to put a stop to this. Yep. Is C.J. Stroud hurt? Oh, I don't know. Because remember, he was having shoulder problems. Yeah.

And they said he's not having surgery, which is not what you want to hear unprompted going into a season That's a good point I actually forgot about it Not having surgery If I wake up in the morning I'm like okay I don't think I'm going to need surgery today

I'm probably not 100% Yeah surgery just gets mentioned Oh this is a Oh okay Max just pulled up a stat CJ Stroud 17 games before He big broed Caleb Williams

4,600 yards Passing 26 touchdowns 5 interceptions 18 games since that picture 3,800 yards So that's 800 less yards 19 touchdowns So that's seven touchdowns less

And 15 interceptions That's 10 more interceptions I'm going to say it Although I do consider myself A strad boy Little bro ass I'm not going to go all the way To say little bro ass

I do think his offensive line is bad But he needs to play better Like you From what we saw his rookie year He's got to play to that standard He said it himself I'm not speaking out of turn he said, I have to play better.

Yeah, he's been bad. He's been bad. Yeah, and I have no idea if he's hurt or not, but it seems like there's something that's fucked up about it. His last regular season game where he threw more than 250 yards was a week 11 last year. That's a long time. Well, today he only got sacked twice. Yeah. So that's a much better week than he has had in weeks one and two.

Yeah. And also, credit to the Jags defense. They played a great game. Trevor Lawrence actually said after the game, he's like, they wanted to bully us. We're not going to get bullied. It did feel like one of those games, the Jaguars might be switching their identity a little bit

because that is a game they do kind of get bullied at historically. I think they had lost 12 out of 14 to the Texans. And the Texan would be the more physical team. The Jaguars had, it was that interception of CJ Stroud and also the force fumble, Tyson Campbell on Nico Collins They kind of took it to the Texans defensively So credit to them

They also Here's how much better the Jags defense is playing The Jags defense has Three takeaways in each of their first three games Which is nine takeaways total Three times three equals nine No big deal, I know math They had nine takeaways all of last year

So they've already tied their amount of takeaways as a defense for their 18 games last year, 17 games last year. I'm going to take that stat. I'm going to add two things to it. They've got three takeaways and three straight games. That's the first time that the Jaguars have ever done that in the history of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Are we doing stat improv?

Yes, and? Yes, and they have more interceptions right now than they did for all of last year. That's crazy. How about that? The Jags defense is playing well. And they were good in this game. So the only thing I would say about the Jags, 2-1, easily could be 3-0, easily could be 3-0 if it weren't for that Bengals game where Jake Browning went the length of the field. What do we think about Brian Thomas Jr.? Are we buying stock?

Because he had another game where he was kind of a no-show. He did have a huge catch in the fourth quarter, a 46-yard catch, which up until that point, I think he had one catch for nine yards. Where are we at? I kind of want to buy stock. So where is his stock? It's a complicated question because it's low. I feel like he's still got some value built into the stock from last year. But it's low through three games because he's had some questionable moments

where he doesn't look like he wants to catch the football drops. Like, and again, he's being judged against Brian Thomas, you know, last year where he was a stud wide receiver and, you know, you got to make those type of plays. I am going to buy stock in him, though. I think he's just maybe going through a little down spurt. So if it's like if it's like GameStop where it was like on the moon back in what 2021, whatever that was, and it's dipped down since then, but it's still higher than most other stocks.

I think I'm buying stock in his current season. I think he's going to get better as the season goes on. He's still getting a lot of targets. Yeah, I just don't know if he's going to be what he was last year. Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. I'll predict 900 yards. six touchdowns for Brian Thomas, Jr.

Brian Thomas, 900 yards, six touchdowns. Yeah. What does he have so far? That feels right to me. Does he have a touchdown so far? I think he has one, zero. 100. Is that all three games added up?

Because sometimes it takes a second. He also has a rushing touchdown. Yes, that is all three. 115 yards? Yeah, through three games. Okay. Yeah, he's not been great. No.

He gets a lot of targets. and he's, I mean, if you just look at, he's got 25 targets on the season, and he has seven catches. That's a problem. Big problem. That's a big problem. Okay, Jaguars, by the way, yeah, I, F.C. South might be Jaguars and Colts. Are they on a collision course?

I still like the Colts. I do too, but I'm just saying, like, those two teams, I mean, the Jaguars have some good tests coming up. The 49ers, Chiefs, Seahawks, and Rams are their next four? I feel like if they can go two and two in those, then we might have to be like, hey, the Jaguars are a legit threat. Can wide receivers have the Yips? Yeah, for sure. So you can fix the Yips.

Yeah. I don't know if it's Yips. I don't know what it is. I think you might have the Yips. Yeah. You can have the Yips for anything. Absolutely. This is Yips.

Okay. Next game. This is when we get to blowout, Ville. We have three blowouts in the early slate. Panthers 30 Falcon Zero Michael Pennix Yuck Bad game

Bad game for Pennix I got a A yuck Crazy Kirk Cousins came in I got a Michael Pennock stat Okay Michael Pennix has never won a game In which his defense has allowed

More than seven points Whoa How's that true O and 4 in In the NFL I was gonna say I was like it's definitely not true Yeah in the NFL

Yeah okay all right He is 2 and O when the Falcons hold the opponents to seven points or less. Small sample size. Small sample. But still, two wins have come against, I think, six points for the Vikings. Yep.

And then I think seven points for the Giants at the end of last year. He was just missing, guys. I was watching, and it wasn't good. And he had a bad pick six that kind of broke this game open. Yeah. I mean, credit to the Panthers, too. They played very good defense. It felt like it could be a dead team.

team, but they got off the mat and absolutely pasted the Falcons. Also, remember all of our Panthers, what do you even call it? Like, what were we doing with the numerology and? The Panthers, they win the Super Bowl. They go to the Super Bowl. They go to the Super Bowl in years after Ohio State wins the national championship in college football and in years where they played the Jaguars in week one when it also coincides with years that J.Lo got a divorce.

Okay. So here's another one. That was the biggest win for the Panthers since 2015 when they won the NFC championship. How about that? They beat the Falcons 38-0 that year. How about that? So, yeah. Things are adding up. Also, I am 100% in on a curse that I just made up and it's got a very small sample size, but the Young Way Coo's curse. So Parker Romo went five for five on Sunday night football when young way coup was still on the roster the falcons cut him Parker Romo goes O for two yeah you got to put him back on the roster I agree don't even need him to kick just give him a job let him hang out that is the young way coup curse I'd say that young way coup is a guy that just feels like a falcon for forever right right so you fucked that

up Parker Romo not that 30 goals would have changed the game yeah I credit Steve Smith for this win. Steve Smith, he told, he went on the radio and he called Charlotte a weak-ass city. Oh. Says, all you do is you bitch and complain, your fair weather fans. I said that way because I've been in the city for 25 years now. I've heard complaining about everything, no matter what the case is. He was talking about how they complained when we were one and 15. I'll never forget how people treated us in my rookie year when we were one and 15. I know some people aren't going to like to hear this, but if you're going to ride and die

with their team ride or die that's probably the problem with this weak-ass city fair weather fans damn so they got put on notice by Steve's it they said ice up son and they and then they did come through because Bryce Young mentioned it after the game that it was an electric atmosphere yeah uh Max I'd like to have a

conversation just the two of us for a second okay as larger men Zach you can also be in this conversation if you like as larger men with breasts yep would you say that when another man comes and flicks your nipple or your breast it is one of the most maddening things

that can be done it's literally the worst thing that you can do to a human right you want to punch the person yes okay uh now imagine if that happened but the person who did it was steve smith because that happened to me on saturday at utah no way yeah well he was saying hello to me but he flipped my nipple and i was just like you're steve smith i'm not going to say shit it was a girl has done it to me before and that has really pissed me off i i we talked for a little bit he said he's going to try to come to the chicago office hang with us he have hats he asked about all you guys he asked where my hat was but the way when i first saw him he was like yo what's up and then gave me a flick of my nipple and i was like there's literally nothing i'm going to

do because you're steve smith and i am not you he flicked your nipple and you just said noted yeah noted i like that yeah no that's no good that's no good that's no good I said, Steve, you just busted my IUD. The Panthers took our advice, by the way. They deactivated Xavier Leggette. Oh. Because Bryce Young was so good throwing to receivers not named Xavier Leggett. Yeah.

So we didn't even play on Sunday. And 30 points, offensive explosion, even though the offense wasn't really statistically all that great. No, Bryce Young did his job. Did his job. He did his job. Their defense did their job. There were just a lot of mistakes by the Falcons today. Yeah, a lot of mistakes.

Also, Michael Pinnock's has not lost his job. Rie Moore said after the game, Kirk Cousins, yeah, we just put him in so that we didn't want anyone to get hurt. Oh, I wasn't even wondering. Yeah. That's interesting. But he did say that. He had to talk about that? He talked about that.

But I wasn't wondering. He talked about it. Now I'm wondering. Because he knew people, people are going to have the conversation. Now I'm wondering. Are you wondering about Michael Pinnock's job? Are you wondering about whether we should have the conversation? I'm thinking we should have the conversation.

If he started the conversation. Okay, let's have the conversation Uh, memes Michael Pennix What about him? Give us your take Should we have the conversation? You're the quarterback guy

I like him At times Okay, I think that's fair That's a really fair response I agree The problem with the left-handed quarterback Is when it goes bad It looks so much worse

Interceptions from a left-handed quarterback Look like they've never played The sport of football Yeah I also don't love their offensive coordinator based off of the quarterback documentary Oh Okay

Go deeper He's the pro football focus guy right I think so I just remember there was one play that Kirk Cousin ran And there's just too much going on They just got to simplify the playbook For the young fella Okay

Well he's not that young Oh yeah he's older But he's still young in the league She's got to simplify things Huh So you're So you're out on Zach Robbins Yeah, I do like Michael Pettix.

He throws sideline and sideline. He just got to figure some things out. Okay. So that's actually, so no one freak out. It's going to be fine. Yeah, one game. Yeah, one game. Okay, PFT, do you want to do a couple ads?

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So bad news for Colts fans, they finally punted. Good news for Colts fans, they're a fucking wagon, and it was the only punt they had. And they have one punt on the season. fewest punts to start a season since 1940 and Daniel Jones continues to be awesome. Yeah, they punted once and they thought that maybe there was a flag and it was going to get called back and they wouldn't punt.

Yeah, because there was a flag on it. It was just against Indianapolis. Daniel Jones is playing incredible football right now. Yeah. It's unreal. He's playing mistake-free football. I don't think he has a single turnover on the entire season. It's the first time that the Colts have started 3 in 0 since 2009.

They went to the Super Bowl that year. and they just continue to dominate in terms of their running game today, but also like Jones is handling the offense the way that he should handle it. Jonathan Taylor was a beast today. Yeah, he's back. And I think we keep trying to figure out with Cam Ward, is he going to be a guy? I think in his best interest, we should start to reframe that as being like he might be a gunslinger. Yeah, and he also needs an offensive line.

He needs the offensive line, but he also, that's one way that we can just brush off the sixes and any of the bad plays, across the body plays. He had another pick six today. He tried another across the body play today. Yep. I think we just need to say Cam Ward is, he's a gunslinger. Yeah. I feel bad for him because he's getting killed.

And yeah, I like that. Gunslinger. Yeah, gunslinger, Cam. Gunslinger. Some other just crazy cult stats because they have now gone past the Saints of last year because the Saints only did it for two games. So the cults have more staying power. They're just a good team.

Uh, today was the best offensive performance a team has had based on EPA per drive, uh, of any team and any game this season. And the second best performance was the Colts week one. Yeah. So they've won and two. Uh, they also have 103 points in their first three games. No Colts team has ever done that. They had a quarterback named Peyton Manning, who was pretty good at football. And Peyton Manning never did that.

So just to put in perspective. Also, here's the crazy one. Daniel Jones is the first player in Super Bowl era to start the season First three games in season With three plus passing touchdowns Three plus rushing touchdowns And no turnovers

Daniel Jones is good He's just fucking good No quarterback has ever done that He's just good in the Super Bowl era It's crazy He's just good And it seems like Shane Steichen is doing a good job Maybe his offense just makes sense to him

Maybe he's using him correctly Yeah Whatever it is it's working. Maybe it's just the new owner. Maybe she was on the headset today. Yep. But they're 3-0 since Mr. Ursay passed away. It's been awesome to watch the Coltser. And they have

now, like, we're going to find out because they played the Rams at the Rams. Rams coming off a loss. Rams are a very good team. Colts win that one. Get whose line is anyway. Don't, don't show it yet. Colts at Rams. Colts at Rams. I think it's going to be Rams. Rams. Rams. What are you say? Rams.

Draft King Sports. Rams minus Oh six Oh I was to say three and a half Four and a half That's what it is Yeah

All right so I got that one One one But yeah The Colts are just good They're averaging 34 points per game 425 yards per game Which is absolutely incredible They're just good

Yeah They're just good And Daniel Jones Good for him I'm happy for him That he like Good coaching matters In the NFL

And also, I mean, their defense is playing well. They just, this is, I actually, I would like to hear and now say I have two teams. I'd like to make an announcement about that I'm going to be done betting for the foreseeable future. The Titans are one of them and the Saints are the Other. Okay, that makes sense. I think I'm done with that. I think I just can't do it anymore because this game, Hank, you took the Titans. It was over right away.

Immediately. Yeah. Not as fast as the Saints one, which we'll get to, but it was pretty much over right away. Yeah. Yeah, and it's just the Colts are set up where Dana Jones is playing perfect football, and then in the second half, they just like, hey, here's Jonathan Taylor down your fucking face and deal with that. There wasn't anything that the Titans could do about it. They also are missing their best defensive player. They're missing some, yeah, they're missing some pieces.

Also, when you start out, you missed two field goals. Joey Sly was on the sidelines, and he like sprinted to the sidelines and grabbed the Microsoft surface and started studying the Microsoft surface, what do kickers look at on that, on that tablet? Are they just on Instagram? No, I think he was just looking. He's like, oh, yeah, that is where the crossbush were. Or maybe it was like, I thought that was in, but I didn't see, like, when you hit a drive and you don't face angle. Yeah, yeah, you don't see where your drive went and you're like, it felt like I connected really good. And you think maybe just up in the fairway. He was like, I thought that off my foot. It felt great. I didn't see where it went. And he's like, oh, yeah, did. The

refs called that right. It did miss by a long, long distance. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, The Colts even said it, Michael Pittman said before the game that the Titans looked kind of sluggish and that they didn't want to be there. Yeah. Not good. Brian Callahan did have to address the calls for his firing by the fans. That's usually the first sign. Not a great sign. I also think, unfortunately, for Brian Callahan, just the name Callahan, like Fire Callahan, just kind of has a little pop to it.

It does. You know what I mean? Like, you can just say that and you're like Fire Callahan. It just does And I like him But it's just It's good The minute you have to address

The calls for the firing It's kind of like the Michael Pennix thing Where he's like Yeah he's our still our quarterback Yeah I think the only Is our quarterback When you say that It's like what?

What did you say? The only move you can do If you're a head coach in that situation Just be like I'd be frustrated too Yeah I hear you I get it No one's more mad than me

Yeah I'm gonna Take a long look in the mirror Because it starts with me Yeah it starts and ends with me and I might like if I were a head coach I'd be like

I'm gonna take a long look in the mirror because every time I get a second to myself I just quietly cry a little bit because this fucking sucks and being 0 and 3 sucks and I'm really hurt because it's my dream job and I suck at it and it's all ever wanted in my entire life and

I worked my entire career to get to this point I finally got it and you guys are being really mean to me when you say that I should be fired and it's not nice because it's a tough economy. I don't know if I'm going to get another job. I would... You're rooting for a man and his family to not have food on their table.

I would do the... I would get in front of the media and just be like, hey, listen, guys. Let's try one week where everyone's positive. Fans and media. Maybe I'll be better at my job if you're boosting me up. If that doesn't work, we can just go back. Yeah, we'll go right back to negative.

Let's just try one week where you say nice things about me and maybe that will be what makes me a great coach. And they got the Texans. So maybe they win this game Yeah I would I would love to say that I'd love to see a coach say that Be like hey do you guys think about just being positive once Like it could help me could could help my confidence

Maybe I'd call better plays if you're just nice to me during the week Mm-hmm just try Give it a shot This is a big that's Aaron Glenn yeah Yeah yeah well he was yeah he said he did say the media is negative He's like the media is going to be negative I'm not I'm saying you should be like media can you try to be positive

Even though we're 0 and 3 Got it. Just lie. Yeah, Tray Turner. Lie to me for a week and tell me I'm good at my job. Because it's like seeing a shot go through the hoop. Once you see one go in, oh, I can do this. I can hit this shot.

I could coach his team. I would love to see a head coach, though, be more aggressive with the media. Like actively dig up dirt on the reporters that are saying bad things about him. And then just like being, look, the fake news is making you think I'm a bad football coach. But actually, this guy has three DUIs. Yeah. So who you're going to trust Yeah

Like get real aggressive with it Yeah Be like hey Peter in the front row How's your wife doing You guys still doing date night That's not what I heard Mm-hmm Mm-hmm

Just hit him back with it Care to comment Care to comment on your wife Taking a liking to Pilates And having a male instructor Care to comment I'm looking at your resume It looks like you've been

At four different newspapers In the last 10 years You have trouble holding down a job buddy your reporting might not be that good. Hey, uh, Joe in the back row, uh, you went to Mizzou in the 80s. Coke much? Hmm. You ever do cocaine, Joe?

Just start fucking hitting them with it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh, Sarah, from the Tennessean, your paper is losing money left and right. You're trying to go to a subscription model, Sarah? Yeah. Uh, no one's buying it. Yeah.

Hey, guess what? Loser. People are, people are, people are, uh, bypassing the paywall because your shit sucks. Yeah. Ever heard of click here for Reader View? This is what we need to do. We need to coaches start fighting back.

Right back to the media. Get real, real mean with it. Yeah, real fucking mean. I'm sure. Call everything fake news. Yeah, the fans will love you. She'll be like, we won that game. No, sir, you lost 41.20.

We won it in my eyes. It was the biggest blowout this season. That's how we saw. We execute in all three phases. Many are saying that it's the best coach. team that they've seen since Bill Belichick. Yeah. All right, speaking of the biggest blowouts.

Vikings 48 Bengals 10. This game was crazy because it's crazy to see 4810. You're like, no chance. Bengals had no chance. The Bengals played really, really bad. Jake Browning did not have a very good game. Carson Wentz back.

But there was a moment in this game. It was 17 to 3. At the end of the, I think it was, let me see what time it was. I think it was like in the second quarter, it was 17 to 3, and the Bengals were going in, they were driving, and it was like, okay, Jim Nance even said on the broadcast, he's like, we could have something here, like the Bengals could be fighting back and be in this game, so it's 173, they're driving, and Isaiah Rogers makes a play on the ball, scoop and score 66-yard touchdown, which, by the way, he also had a, uh, uh, uh, a pick six for 87 yards. He had a PFF greeting of 99.9, first ever. So that's pending.

That's pending review from the all 22. Penning review from the all 22. But either way, so it's 17 to 3. It's actually after the two minute warning in the, in the second quarter. So the Bengals are going in for a touchdown to make it 17 to 10 at halftime. The scoop and score happens. the halftime score goes from it could have been 17 to 10 the halftime score is 34 to 3 because the scoop and score happens

then the Bengals fumble again then a touchdown then they fumble again and a field goal yeah so he happened all like bang bang bang in the last two minutes and then the game was over and the Vikings fucking killed so he had two returns for touchdowns and I think he had also two forced fumbles for touchdowns uh one force fumble for touchdowns One forced fumble for a touchdown, one pick for a touchdown. And then another forced fumble not for a touchdown. Yeah, yeah. That is the best first half defensively that you could possibly have.

It was crazy. And they just absolutely took it to him. Carson Wentz, he wasn't, he didn't have like the craziest stat line, but he was efficient. He played good enough. He's 14 for 20. They said he's going to get another opportunity. They're not putting J.J. McCarthy back in. Until week seven.

Possibly, yeah. He's traveling to, I was confused by this. Uh-huh. They said he's traveling to Europe to keep rehabbing. but he's also not going to probably play until so the Vikings play back to back Europe games so they're going on the road

then they get their bye week so JJ's going with the team to Europe rehabbing not going to play and then maybe after the bye week he plays he's probably get that Christian McCaffrey Italian blood spinning thing that's what's going on over there

no I would because if I were Jason McCarthy I'd be like can I not go I don't really want to I have a newborn I don't really want to go to Europe just to continue to rehab I think J.J. McCarthy's injury status is going to be directly linked to if the Minnesota Vikings are winning playoff games or not. Or winning regular season games or not. Carson Wentz. How is Carson Wentz? How is Carson wins? If Carson wins is not playing good, then JJ's injury might start to feel a lot better all of a sudden. Yeah. It's like good times create soft men. Soft times create Carson wins. Carson wins creates tough times. tough times create hard men

Yep So right now we're in the Softmen Create Carson Wince That makes sense Part of that life cycle And then once he falls off Then JJ's back in

Yeah And then he'll be fixed By the time he gets back Carson Wins Did play good today He did what he was asked to do I will admit that Even though I don't like

The sound of his name Or paying attention to him Or looking at him Max or his shins He's good He was good today He was good today He played well today

I am happy for Carson Wentz I'm not happy to watch him play but I'm happy for him as a person I don't believe you You're probably right You don't like him You don't like him Yeah you're probably right

But I said that I was happy for him That's a nice thing for you to say That should count for something I am happy for him Did your your what was it called the The Wensley He didn't throw in the second half I love that

You had the like the Carle was right there Yeah The car, no Wensley kind of pops The Wensley All I had to say was Wensley in front of Hank and Hank Yeah, no, that pops Because the car lay, you don't know who that's about

To be, yeah, it could be anyone The car sleigh I thought about That would be confusing as well though Wensley were Wensley Slays Yeah, sleigh Yeah, no, they didn't have to play in the second half Because they just dominated

And the Vikings had, they were the first team in the NFL history to have two past touchdowns, two rush touchdowns, two defensive touchdowns, two made field goals all before the fourth quarter. That's how, that's how dominant they were. And the Vikings also, I don't really know what to make of them. They had week one where they played like dog shit for three quarters and then beat the Bears because J.J. McCarthy was awesome. Week two, they looked like absolute ass against the Falcons. week three, they look like the best team in the world and kick the shit out of the Bengals. Yeah, it was, I mean, it got so out of hand that they put in Max Brasmer. Yeah.

Max Brasmer did clean up to today. It doesn't bode well for Desmond Ritter. No. But I think having Desmond Ritter as your backup would be the best insurance plan. Yeah. Like people are going to be, your teammates will block hard for you if Desmond Ritters is salivating on the sideline. Kevin O'Connell might be doing that just to keep his personal confidence in Carson Went. Yeah, you're not getting bent.

Because you watch his Desmerer. He's like, you know what? It's not that bad. Also, shout out to Cam Acres. He didn't have like a great game today or anything, but he did have five carries. Cam Acres has just left the Vikings and come back to the Vikings, I think three times in the last three years. So, yeah, he was with the Vikings in 2023, and that's when the Rams traded him there. Then he signed with the Texans in the 2024 off season. Then he got traded back to Minnesota. and then he didn't have a job and now he's back in Minnesota.

I like that. Good for him. Like when guys do that. Yeah. I don't really know what to make of the Bengals. It feels like I had like a little hope that Jake Browning, hey, if you can tread water for a while, and maybe he still will, but I don't, I don't think.

I think this is going to be a tough, tough uphill battle for the Bengals to try to be in any type of playoff spot for Joe Bro to come back. Yeah. I don't see it. I mean, they got, I say hit the Mike White button. Yeah. Right? That's the button.

Hit the James button. Well, the James button is not getting pressed. The James button should be pressed. That'd be too fun. We like Jake Brownie. He's a nice guy, but like hit the James button for at least the Monday night games we have coming up. Yeah. I would love to see that.

But the fact that they went out there and they got like three different Mike whites to be his backup. When your quarterback is like an iteration of. Mike White. Yeah. I feel like that's not going to happen with James. Yeah. Okay. Afternoon games. So Vikings early, we, Hank, you should be pumped. We just get your football just coming up, just onslaught of it, right in our fucking face. Okay, wait.

Right in our face. Viking Steelers, I believe. More football. No, same amount of football. That would be like throughout the day. What about the Ryder Cup? Will you be watching Ryder Cup or we'd be watching football? Both. Who are you rooting for in the ride or not? You have one TV guy?

No. Hank. Yeah, me neither. Who are you betting on? USA. You promise? Yeah. Promise?

I'd not. Promise. That might change. Promise? You're not going to bet on guys from Europe in their individual matches? No. Oh, that looks like you might. I won't.

Okay. Afternoon games. Are you sure? Chargers 23 Broncos 20 I got to say Justin Herbert is just fucking awesome Who's lines that I do with

What? Ryder top Oh okay Now he's looking for it U.S. is minus 145 Oh you're definitely going to bet Europe Europe's a plus sign

I'm not going to I'm not going to I'm not going But if you had to Which side would you bet What do you mean? If you if you were if you had no no one ever knew what you were going to bet just you got to bet it

you love Europe plus what is it plus 160 150 plus 150 you love I love plus signs so that's like that's not fair for you to bet a tie for you to what could be more European than betting a draw oh because I'm not European 11 to 1 USA are I just love plus signs period

It doesn't matter what the stakes are But no, I'll find I'll find some fun plus signs Within the game Yeah, Justin Herbert is awesome That throw he made to Keenan Allen And if you're listening This right now you didn't see it

I'm sure most of the people who were listening Did see it but if you didn't go watch it That was one of the best throws I think I've ever seen And I know that sounds very crazy Does that sound crazy Hank? No, no, no no He's still looking at lines Yeah

That was one of the best throws ever seen because the way he was he was under pressure, had to step up, then had a guy in his face, had to throw basically off platform to Keenan Allen that wasn't even open for a touchdown to tie the game with three minutes left in the fourth quarter. Yeah, it was incredible. He just shrugged a guy off.

Shrugged a guy off, then this guy was in his face. Throwing with his right arm as he's drifting to the left. Getting hit. While getting hit, it was very impressive. And, yeah, the chargers are now, they have a stranglehold. They do. They got a stranglehold on the AFC West. It's awesome for them that they got started,

they started their entire season with three games and three games against opponents that they would be facing in the division. Yeah. And that they're three and O, it's going to be very tough for them to get out of that, for other teams to get out of that hole. Yeah, first off that, first time the Chargers have a two-game lead in the division since 2009,

which is also the last time they won the AFC West. That's crazy. Yeah. Derwin James should be the defensive player of the year. He's awesome. After three games. If the season ended today, I'd be very upset because that takes away a lot of football from us. But yeah, today he had 12 tackles.

He had four tackles for loss. Everything that Fred Smoot said about Derwin James, multiply that by three right now because I think he might be the best defensive player in football. Yeah. Mims, can you grab Shane? Because I did have a Chargers fan. Hit me up and was like, hey, can you get Shane in to talk about the Chargers? Because I need to get more pumped up about the Chargers.

is like, you know what, for all of our Chargers fans out there, you should get more pumped up about the Chargers. This team's really fucking good. Justin Herbert, like, the Broncos were playing great defense in terms of, like, pressure. They were, I feel like Justin Herbert was harassed on almost every single dropback. I went and looked it up. It was 54% pressure rate. So it was half of his dropbacks. He was just, you know, under pressure.

Guys not open. The final two drives to, they were down, what, 2013? So they needed a touchdown and a field goal, the final two drives, eight for nine, 93 yards, and a touchdown, including that throw to Keenan Allen. Shane, we're just talking up the Chargers, and someone treating me as like, hey, can you get Shane on when you talk about the Chargers to pump us up? Pump us up, Shane. That was sick. It was awesome. Like, those years with Brandon Staley just did a damage on me and to actually, like, come out and win those games, it's like, it's just crazy.

Yeah, because it did feel very. chargers like for a minute there where you were controlling the game then the end of the half happens where you give up there's a miscommunication in the back half of the defense Cortland Sutton gets the most wide open touchdown so you're going into the half time you're going to be up 10 nothing right yeah and then and then it's 10 7 you're like what the fuck just happened then the Broncos come out and score 10 more points right away so it's a 17 0 run for the Broncos you're like this charge team is going to quit but no Justin Herbert's that special Yeah, at least, like, since the Anthony Lynn era, it's always been, like, Chargers Control

a game, and then a broken play on defense just, like, changed the whole thing. We can't get momentum back. And, like, ever since Harbaugh took over, it's just, like, completely different. Do you think that Harbaugh has unlocked Quentin Johnson? I think it has to be, yeah. Yeah. He's awesome. Is he fully unlocked now?

I think, did you see, he made, like, a, he moths a guy. Yeah, he moths the guy. Yeah. I couldn't believe my eyes. It was crazy. Wait, did he moss, Moss Moss, Moss? It might have been Moss. It might have been Moss.

That would be, yeah, Moss squared. It would be Moss, Moss, Moss, M-A-S-M-O-S. The most Moss you can possibly be. Yeah. Now, so his rookie year, I looked up his stats. His rookie year, Quentin Johnson, guess how many yards he had? His rookie year, I think he had like 550. It was 431 yards receiving.

His second year, Harbaugh gets there. He's got 711 yards, 8 touchdowns as opposed to two touchdowns his rookie year. 711, still not probably what you'd want out of his. him ideally, right, for what you spend on him in the draft. Right now he's on pace for 1,354 yards and 17 touchdowns. That's pretty good. It's really good. So like it might be crazy to say that Quentin Johnston might be a wide receiver one. Yeah. I mean, as bad he's been in the past, you can't like deny that he's just, he's gradually gone better and better and I mean, hopefully even better. Yeah. And last year it was like that was the, the bugaboo about the chargers. They didn't have

guys to support Justin Herbert now Quinn Johnson looks awesome Lad's awesome Kenan Allen is awesome again it's crazy Yeah last year it's just like a weapons problem I feel now that we have like We kind of solidified the wide receiver room

And everything just opens up so many more things Also did you know that this stat It was going around earlier this week That Jim Harbaugh has more rushing yards than Bo Jackson Yeah Yeah that's pretty cool Yeah Very cool

Okay so you're pumped So pumped When the AFC West I hope so So, man. I mean, you've got a stranglehold. You're up two games. I know.

I know. I'm trying to limit expectations here. But what happens if Justin and Madison break up? We can't let that happen. Can't let that happen. She was in the building today, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah?

She saw it all, yeah. There we go. Did you wear your lucky rings today? All right. Okay. All right, see you. That was a good segment. Yeah.

Yeah, just bolt up with Shane Volt up. Charge him if you got him. Large and inside. What did you say, Shane? Bolt up. Yeah, bolt up. Let's go. Beat the charges.

High voltage. High voltage with Shane. That was, I mean, yeah, I wanted to pump it up. Pump it up. It deserves pumping. Yeah, they're a very good team. Broncos. So, defense was there.

Nick Bonita had a really good game. Yep. Bo Nix. he could have easily won this game if he just hits a couple of those deep balls there was a couple that one with like two minutes left that was the game he had that one nice pass that was the Sutton right but that was his

wide open his wide open it was a good throw yeah but not like that's one you got to look back he's going to watch that and be like I had this game yeah I went I had guys wide open they could say that about this game they could say that about last week's game yep what they do though is in these games they don't really adjust no matter how good the opposing quarterback is dealing with the Blitz,

Vance Joseph's just like, fuck it, let's just dial it up again. Yeah. He loves to dial it up. He leaves the league and dialing it up. And against Daniel Jones last week, didn't work against Herbert this week, also didn't work. The good news for them is that the AFC is not particularly strong right now. I still think that if you just look at their schedule, they have probably eight to nine more games that they should win. And they might be able to steal one or two?

Yeah. I just think that if you're a Broncos fan, you just, you want Bo Nix to take a step forward from last year, which was a very good year. And like this was a game that he's your franchise quarterback. He could have easily won this game. Like there was moments where he had guys and he just has to hit him. Yeah, these are two games that you've had week by week that you can point to at the end of the season be like, this is why we're not hosting a playoff game. Yeah, yeah. Okay, we can do this game quickly.

Seahawks 44, Saints 13. I'm done with the Saints. I don't know why I bet on the Saints. I shouldn't have bet on the Saints. This game was over so fast. Blink of an eye, the game was done. It was so crazy. The Seahawks had in the first half, they ran 21 plays total,

seven minutes and 41 7 minutes and 41 seconds time of possession The score was 38 to 6 Is a bad bad game Bad pick that I gave out On part of my take on Friday I feel like an idiot Well we were all with you

I feel like an idiot for betting on the Saints They also just had The most frustrating coaching decision After the game was lost The game was the game was Well yeah yeah so yeah I want to talk about what you're about Let me just explain how quickly the game was lost it went, the start of the game was Saints turnover on down, Seahawks touchdown,

Seahawks punt return touchdown, Seahawks block punt, and then they scored two plays later. The Seahawks had their first four offensive possessions. They scored four touchdowns on 15 total plays, and then also throw in the fact that there was a punt return in the middle of that. So that's how you get 38 to 6 at halftime. Yeah, it was bad. 21 points in the first quarter of the game never felt like. like it was competitive.

You can't even really blame Spencer Rattler too much for this loss. He is 0 and 9 as a starter. Oh, and 9. O'N9 as a starter for Rattler. But this was more about everything else. And then he came in and didn't really help things that much. But Kellen Moore and his decision making was absolutely bizarre. So they were down 35 to 3.

Actually, you know what? The first one, they were down 32 to 3, right? Yeah. first one it was uh it was fourth and what four yeah around the 30ish somewhere in there and he sends his kicker blake rupee out there to attempt a field goal and everybody was like what the fuck you're doing the people that were announcing the game i don't know who the uh commentators were but they said you know getting points is going to be good for momentum i know like kellan more is going to do this he was trying to turn a four score game into a three score game i think that's

what his rationale was. Then they missed that field goal, which is ball don't lie. You should not have tried that field goal. Satest field goal of the week by far. And then he had the saddest field goal maybe that I've ever seen. He was down 35 to 3. It was 4th and 2.

Was the ball on, was the ball on like the... It was like the 3 yard line? Yeah, with like 5. Because it wasn't 4th and goal, was it? It was 4th and 2, but it was inside the 10. Yeah, it was the end of the half. Into the half, ball inside the 10. And he sends his fuel goal unit out there to cut it to 35 to 6.

It was quite something. It was the saddest field goal. Hank, if you need diarrhea break. Yeah, go. Diarrhea break, go. Hey, listen, we all got something. What are you doing? Go, go.

Are you okay? Oh, no. He's like the way he got up. Hearing about this fuel goal. He didn't want to hear about the sad fuel goals. He did not. But yeah, it was. No, it was crazy.

A 21-yard field goal, they were down 38 to 3. Yeah. I don't know how much more you can give up on a game than that. No, they were as given up as possible. By the way, the one you're talking about at the end of the half, that wasn't fourth down. It was first down out of time. There was three seconds left. It was first and goal from the five.

So the other one was fourth and two then. Yeah. Yeah, no, it was first and goal from the five. And they were just like, you know what? We're just going to try to get some more points on the board here because we really want to just get more points on the board. I don't know. First one, they were down 35 to 3.

It was a 32 point game. Yeah. So they were trying to make it a 29 point game. Correct. Which I guess in that case, that's making a four-score game, a four-score game. I'm really bad at math. No, it's worth. No, no, no, that's a five-score game.

Okay. 33 points is five-scores. Okay. 32 is the most you can get at a four-scores. And then they were down 38 to 3 at the 21-yard field. She's got to get points. He was going double-sad. field goal in the first half.

It's the saddest field goal I can ever remember. Yeah. Yeah. It was in the Seahawks, yeah. They just, they look good. Sam Darnold looked good. He didn't really have to do much. Like it was, it was that fast and that quick that they jumped on them. Like I said, 15 plays in their

first four drives. Fifteen plays total all touchdowns. That's as efficient as efficient could get. Yeah, crazy. Yeah. I mean, 38 points and they had the ball for seven minutes in the first half. 38 points, 7 minutes. That's insane.

So Seahawks. Saints, I'm done with you. I had them in Frisky. I no longer have them in Frisky. That was, they're out of Frisky. Let's try to find the Saints first win. Okay. Seahawks, Thursday night football coming up against the Cardinals to kind of get themselves, what,

they'd be three and one then, be looking pretty good. They're at the Bills next week. No. Saints at Bills. No. Then they have the Giants at home. That could be Jackson Dart Because we're going to talk about them

The Giants real quick Then they have the Patriots at home No Then they're at the Bears That might actually be it Just so fuck us But probably not No they'll win one of these

Giants Patriots Bears That feels like one of those They could find a way to win But if they don't win that Bucks Rams is tough Yeah they got to win one of those three. They've got to win one of those three. The Giants Patriots at

home is what, if you're a Saints fan, you're circling that one. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, the Saints, let's see, I'm looking up the line right now. The Saints at the Bills, 15 and a half. I'm going to take the bills. It's tough. It's tough. All right, do the last

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He just made a play The play that he should have made on my pass The 49ers got very lucky to win this game They went to Mac Jones hell And somehow came out of it Because we had Mac Jones throw a bad interception Mac Jones get a safety Which was actually a holding in the end zone

And then Mac Jones Lead them on a game winning drive So they went They literally went through Mac Jones hell and came out the other side. They did it all. Ricky Pearson had a big game today. He was awesome.

That was cool to see. And, yeah, good for Kyle Shanahan for not letting Jake Moody sour him on letting kickers attempt field goals at the end of games. Yeah. Because Eddie Pinheiro drilled a big one during this game. And yeah, the Niners are, they are technically three and oh. They are. Listen, I think the Niners, once they get healthy are going to be a very good, legit team.

they're they mean they they basically their offense they have mac jones throwing the ball and they have Ricky pierce all has to catch the ball which he's good but and then they have to just hope that christian mcalfrey can do everything because they couldn't really run the ball today and but christian mcalfrey still ended up with uh 27 touches for 140 yards because he caught the ball a bunch too i think he had like 10 receptions he had 88 yards receiving yeah he had the one that made the difference at the end yeah they got them into field goal territory The 40, excuse me, the Cardinals, I heard Hank, Hank was actually saying this earlier. Hanks back from his stinger break.

Hank was talking about, how was the Ria? How was the diarrhea? It's, it's not great. It's not great. I don't want to, you know. We all got something. No one wants to hear about it. I'm here to talk football, but there's, there's sometimes when, you know, it's an enjoyable experience sitting on the, sitting on the loo.

And there's other times where it's just pain and you think you're never going to smile again. And it's just, it's, you got. demons in your stomachs and the cold sweats. Yeah, and just the bubbles and that's the person. Listen, people, people. The sweating is when you know. It's like a panic sweat too. Yeah. It's like you, things are about to go real bad, real fast. It's like your body is in fight or flight. Yeah. And listen, I know that we make this, uh, this whole operation look glamorous, but it takes a lot to, to sit on a couch all day and eat pizza, wings, Chipotle, ice cream and survive. And you know what? God gives its toughest

battles to his strongest warriors. I don't know if you guys talked about it already, but it was, it was the no safety call against the Cardinals was absolute horseshit. What do you mean? Kyler Murray threw intentional grounding from the end zone. Yeah, yeah. And they didn't call it intentional grounding, which I don't, I still don't understand. Yeah. And then the 49ers got called for safety They

Cardinals got two points That was a good call 49ers didn't That was a good call But they were both safeties Yeah no I didn't understand the Kyler Murray one either Because it was

And it literally made every second of difference Yeah was an absolute horseshit Yeah so so Kyler Murray he He ran back into the end zone He threw the ball from the end zone And then he had it was intentional grounding Then he had two feet in the end zone As he launched the past

I guess the ball wasn't in the end zone When he threw it he threw it the ball crossed the white line. No, it was all the way out. It was out before that. Yeah. Like the ball was out of the end zone as he was throwing it. Like he started his motion. But you know, it's confusing to us because we're thinking

about like basketball. If your feet are behind that line, that means that you're in that area. Right? But in this case, was it the ball? Is that what they tried to say? So if his knee, if he was tackled right there, that wouldn't have been a safety? It would have been a safety. No, it's where the ball is. I think it's the spot of the ball.

Parallax angle. No, but it's the spot of the ball. This is how safety's always worked. There's so many times when you think you have a safety, and they're like, no, the ball got out. Like, the guy got tackled in the end zone, but the ball got out. We've seen it a million times.

It was close to a safety. Should have been safe. But they won the game anyway, so it's okay. Well, they didn't cover. Oh, there we go. I heard Hank saying this earlier. I wasn't saying this. I know Big Cat was not saying this earlier,

but Marvin Harrison, Jr. might suck. Dude, I don't think he just drops balls. I think he's great. I think he's an awesome player. I'm not scared to say it. Apparently you are, but yeah. Yeah, I am. Yes.

And James Connor got hurt, which sucks. I always root for James Connor. But yeah, Marvin Harrison Jr.' The one drop that he had was... He has the Ips. You said it earlier. He has the Ips. Both him and, yeah, Brian Thomas.

Yeah. Not good. On that... On that one that he dropped, he was definitely too open on that. But the other one, the other one, when they called the defensive pass, or the pass interference on his teammate that got, like, interfered within the end zone. And he still had a perfectly catchable ball. Like, a receiver should catch that NFL receiver, probably nine times out of ten.

Like, everything that we were scared of happening with Jamar Chase when he got to the NFL, where he's like, yeah, there's stripes on the ball. It's a different ball. It's kind of weird. That's what's happened to Marvin Harrison, Jr. It's really strange He was solid last year too He wasn't that bad But he's been horrible

He wasn't great last year Yeah Cardinals fans would disagree with your They'd be like no I had him with my fantasy team I thought he I thought he contributed Did okay He helped you out Yeah

This year is terrible Because he doesn't have your coaching Yeah I'm not buying the Cardinals I haven't been all year Like I said they play I mean they played the Niners tough But it was Mac Jones too

Matt Jones tried to give him that game There was was also an injury of Nick Bosa. Yeah. But I don't think it was like an ACL. He did thumbs down. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like he was walking off the field.

He saw somebody in the stands. They got him on camera. He hit them with the Bosa shrug. Yeah. Which was unintentional. It wasn't like a, that's just what he does. Yeah. As he did the shrug and then he goes thumbs down on my knee.

So I think everybody thought, okay, maybe this is bad. I think he's going to be back. But 49ers just have the worst luck. Yeah. With all their injuries. The Bucks and the 49ers. I feel like just all, they just have group injuries. Yeah.

All right. Last game, Bears 31 Cowboys 14. Bears won their gateway game. The gateway game happened. Now everything is back open. Season's back open. That was a very fun watch. Caleb looked awesome.

Ben Johnson. I feel like he was like, you know what? Fuck it. Let's just be ourselves. Also, we're playing the Cowboys. They suck on defense. And yeah, it was awesome. Their defense was so bad today.

So bad. The Cowboys, yeah. No, they are bad. Yeah, yeah. And Caleb, but I'm not even saying that to take away from anything that Caleb did because he was making great plays with his legs. He was making great plays, keep his eyes down the field and solid throws. But also, the Cowboys defense is bad. Two things can be true. And I think Caleb was really, really good today. And he did that against the playoff team in the Cowboys. Jerry Jones said after the game, he still fully believes that the Cowboys are a player. Oh, okay. So that's good. I do not. I do not believe that. But yeah, it was fun. I mean, Caleb looked awesome. He was making the right

reads. He had obviously that trick play which was crazy. DeAndre Swift, I do not think he was supposed to put that much air on the Flea Flickr pass backwards. Yeah. And I was like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck. And then Caleb just ripped it to Luther Burden, ripped another one, Roma Dunzee, that touchdown to Cole Komet. Like, as cool

as the trick play was, and it was awesome. I thought the bears, the thing that I was most excited about were the two drives, their last drive in the first half and their first drive in the second half, because the last drive in the first half was like a classic moment where it actually, our good friend Tom Furnelli, texting me, during the, like, before we got the ball, he was like, let's go get six. And they did. And then afterwards, he's like, have we, this ever happened where we've been like, hey, let's

go get six? And we actually did. But it was 17, 14, two and a half minutes left. And the Bears just went down the field and scored a touchdown. And they scored around a fourth down. And it was, or actually, you know, the fourth down was later, but they scored it. It was the Colquette touchdown. They, uh, seven plays, 71 yards, touchdown drive.

It was like, holy shit. They had two and a half minutes left. Mm-hmm. They had to get a touchdown. They wouldn't got a touchdown. And then the drive in the third quarter where they just played bully ball. And it was a 19 play drive, nine minutes and 54 seconds. Ben Johnson was like, we've done, gotten all this way.

We're going to go for it on fourth and goal. Kill shot, 31, 14, game over. that was awesome it was just very very fun it was the first no i'm not going to say it because then i'm going to the the packers fans are going to use this against me it was last year week 18 the packers weren't i don't think they were playing for anything really and the bears won this was the first time the bears won a game where they were like still alive since london of last year which was like week five so it's been a long time that they've won a game where it's like, oh, now we can see what happens for the next week

and not, oh, they won a game, then the season ended and we only won five games. So what were you going to say? No, that's what I was to say. I don't, Packers fans are going to be like, oh, you're saying that it wasn't even a real game that you beat the Packers. I think they had some playoff seating stuff. But I'm saying the Bears didn't have anything. Yeah. The Bears haven't won a game where they then were like, oh, next week, let's see if we can build on this.

It was a great way for the Bears. They lost 11 in a row last year. And as excited as Bears fans are to see Kaylee. go out there and play really well. I think they're more excited about the fact that they get free hot dogs at Wiener's Circle. Yes. Where if he throws four touchdowns, then the whole city of Chicago gets free hot dogs?

Yeah, Wiener Circle. They're not going to be able to handle it. They're going to go out of business. Yeah. Be careful on all traffic. But no, that kicked ass. And Ben Johnson out-coached Matt Iberfluse. Yeah, there was a funny tweet. I got to pull it up because I bookmarked it because I want to give the guy credit. It was Ben Devine said, finally Matt Eberflus is developing Caleb Williams.

Yeah. Fax. Yeah. It was a very impressive performance. It was awesome. Yeah. So Caleb had 298 yards, four touchdowns. He's got seven touchdowns on the season, one interception.

He's ripping it up. He said that stepping forward. On that deep pass on the flea flicker to Luther Burden, he said that he sucked at that throw in practice. He said he underthrew him every time in practice. Love it. And he told him in the game like, hey, I'm not going to underthrow you on this one. Yeah. I'm I was what that's that's a way better thing to say than in the past when he's been like that play was awesome in practice yeah yeah I'm excited even though you pointed out the Cowboys defense sucks I mean they do I was gonna wait to point that out you pointed out right away but I'm still excited that was fun it was a very fun game kind of yucked it a little bit well you knew I mean the cowboys yeah I know but I was going to say it at the end I was going to like have some like enjoy the moment of Caleb like being awesome and looking awesome I think you're being a little sensitive because I was not

Well, yeah, it was the first time that he's played, looked like that. And he was awesome. Ever with memes. Help me out here. Meems is going to, yeah, you go to memes. Well, no, yeah, go to memes. This is the first time I've been able to be like, that was so much fun. Caleb Williams looked awesome.

And I know it came against a bad defense. It was awesome. But now you have a week four Super Bowl coming up because if you lose to the Raiders this season is, it's beyond over. Right? I wanted to... Calling the Raiders a week for Super Bowl. No, I'm saying like, I'm saying it... That was way meaner than what I was.

I wanted to disagree with that, but I don't know if that that might be true. If you can't, you got a stack wins. If you beat the Raiders, you're two and two. You got to stack wins. And things can happen. Yes. Things can happen from two and two. No, that's why this...

If you lose against the Raiders, yes. One and three seasons over. Part of the gateway opening was beating the Super Bowl. You got to win. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. No, but this was the gateway, though, then opens you up to must wins. To another gateway?

No. No. Must wins. Okay. Like there's no more, you can't, if you, if you lose the Raiders and then in like week seven, like, oh, it's a gateway. There is no. The gate is closed.

Yeah, yeah. No, no, it's a must win. But if you lose the Raiders, then you, are you out on thinking that you might get to five and four or six and three? No, we'll just have to open up another gateway game. Okay. Then you go back to the gateway. Then if you lose the must win.

Yeah, yeah. Then if you lose the must win. You do a gateway game to get to a must win because a gateway game is not saying that you're like have to win. if you lose, it's over. But it also depends who you're playing. Like, if you were playing, you know, in Eagles, Rams, Chiefs,

it wouldn't be a must win. You got to beat the Raiders. You got to beat the Raiders. What's the difference between a gateway and a portal game? Portals in college when you enter the portal and change schools. But you had a portal game, I think, last year. I think it was a gateway game.

Same thing. Okay, so it's the same thing. Yeah. Either way, that was really fun. It was a very, very enjoyable watch, except for the over-not-hitting. Max, you will never talk about Joe Milton in a positive way again.

You said that after. I texted you that and you said, yes, you're right. I get it until Wednesday things can change. No, come on. We just talked about this. The dude just fucking does the same thing every time. We needed that over.

Seven points in the second half is fucking disgusting. Disgusting. The Cowboys being inside the one yard line and they didn't run once is so fucking beyond me. How do you? not, just run, just try it one time. Devante Williams has been fucking awesome. No one cares about your fucking bets, but that over should have hit.

Yeah, well, and C.D. Lamb getting hurt was a big miss for the Cowboys. But yeah, and the Cowboys were running the ball on, like, our defense isn't good, so gonna have to, like, they were giving up six yards of carry. I'll also say that there was a buzz in the air when Joe Milton got in.

There was. Like, it felt, it felt, it felt different. The ball, the ball, the ball flies different. coming out of his hands. It said you were going to not. It was fun. That interception that he had, I miss him.

It's because his arm's too strong. He threw it too fast. Turpin didn't get there in time. He also, he's too good. Joe Milton's, the problem is never with Joe Milton not being able to play the game of football. The problem is the game of football not being advanced enough as a sport to adequately live up to Joe Milton's arm. He also got it down to the two without.

No idea. He did, and then there's bullshit penalty. So he didn't. didn't get to the two. I never read a play on the two. But he, the ball was at the two and then. But it was never spotted at the two. The ball got to the two yards. The ref never spotted the ball at the two.

But the football was there. Okay, but so if you just throw the ball in the air and it bounces? Wrong. It was caught and brought to the, and down at the two at the two and then they, you gave me your word that we, you were going to quit Joe. That was, that was an emotional time.

Okay. He is awesome. I wish you got me over. Did you hear Tom Brady talking about him? Tom Brady was like, this guy's body is built to throw a football. Look at that arm, long, skinny, like a whip. And I was like, Tom's right. It was a bad pick. It was a bad pick.

It was a Joe Milton pick, a thousand miles an hour. It was awesome. Right into a guy's chest. Great pick. He was putting a bad spot. He had to force it. Literally the easiest spot. Oh, he needed to score twice to win.

No, they gave up because they put him in. There was the easiest spot you could possibly be in. No one's playing anymore. Joe Milton was trying to win that football game. No one was playing. Yeah, fun, fun day, though. I had a lot of fun. Caleb looked awesome.

Ben Johnson looked like he got his footing a little bit. I know it's against the Cowboys defense. This doesn't really count, but we're going to stack something. No, it counts for the reasons why I said it counted, which was that regardless of their defense, like the plays that Caleb was making were great plays. Yeah, he looked good. throws were great, the running was great, decision-making was great. It was an awesome game for him. I'm excited, so we'll see what happens on Sunday. Gateway game, Gateway has been opened.

We'll see where we go from there. I do have a stat for you, PFT. You ready for this? Today, Caleb got his 4,000th yard passing as a bear. The bears now lead the entire NFL with most quarterbacks with at least 4,000 yards passing. No big deal. And they pass. the commanders. Wait, the Bears lead the NFL. This is a stat from... Say it again? I want to shout out the guy. It's the funniest thing I've seen because it's

a hilarious stat because it takes you it's like a kidney shot. You have to walk away before you realize it's an insult. This was from JP Analyst. The Bears have more 4,000 yard passers than any other team in history. We have 21, 4,000 yard passers. The Washington commanders

have 20. No big deal. sorry we're number one for have more 4,000 yard passer yeah which is how many 21 we have 21 guys who've had had at least 4,000 yards total for the Chicago Bears I my commanders have 20 my brain is just trying to because you understand when I hear 4,000 yard yes correct I think of the old bear's stat yes I'm not saying for one season I'm saying for their career right okay Caleb Williams now has 4,000 yards in a bear's uniform it took him a you year in three games. Yep.

No that... 21 guys who've done it. It's literally a stat being like, this is how many quarterbacks you have employed. And that makes sense that you have surpassed us. Yes. Because the last... It's that.

Eagles are third. 17. You forget, like, how awesome was that, what, five seasons? Were you a Jay Cutler? Yeah. That stability of just having one guy that was good. Yeah.

Yeah, the bears still don't have a 4,000 yard passer in a season, but they have the most guys who have had 4,000 yards total in their Bears career. Good for them. Such a funny graphic to look at. You're like, fuck yeah. And then you're like, oh, shit. That's just a lot of really bad quarterbacks. But yeah, that happened.

So congrats to Caleb. All right. Roeback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. What? What are you looking at? Oh, okay. I was just looking up the commander's stats.

I think Jaden has 4,001 yards passing. But they probably didn't take that into account. that he was probably the one that tied us. We were tied with you for one week. Yeah. And then Bears took the lead again. Got it. Look at this.

Isn't that hilarious? Yes, that's pretty good. It's ridiculous. You know, like Houston has five guys because they haven't been a franchise for me long. Okay, rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, Polos, Hoos, Jogger, shorts.

My row-back question to the whole group is Russell Wilson done. Should be. Should be. Yeah. I think the time has come. Have you guys ever seen Old Yeller? I actually haven't. I refuse to watch that movie.

That was a pitiful. That sequence. I haven't either. I haven't either. Have you seen Marley and me? Nope. I haven't either. But I'm pretty sure what we're looking at with Bruce Wilson is pretty similar to both

Marley and me and O' Yeller. Yes. But it was it was bad tonight for old Russie. The, the moonballs. were there, but they were just thrown directly to safeties. Yes. And so the Chiefs get their first win, played good defense, looked like Mahomes. That was crazy because we started recording. The play, the Chiefs ran

where it looked like a touchdown and the guy dropped it. I don't know if it was Thornton. Thornton. They just literally were like, we'll just do that again. And then they did it again and they got it. So you could see the Chiefs are starting to come along of like taking deep shots trying to bring their offense along but yeah the the story out of this game because I think we all think the chiefs are going to be just fine and be a playoff team oh they're not I don't think so okay uh the Russell Wilson it's it's just got to end this was too much that that sequence at the end of the game with like two minutes left when they were first in goal from, I think, like, the four-yard line,

uh, he got an intentional grounding penalty. Which is egregious. He-intentional grounding at the four-yard line is egregious. Yeah. He, uh, he just threw a checkdown. Then he threw two straight balls, like, out of the end zone. Just not even near anyone. Mm-hmm.

Just throwing it. Yeah. To try not to get another intentional grounding, I guess. But yeah, it's, I think it's got to be done. Uh, Jackson Dart was again, electric when you got into the game had he carried for three yards yep what are you guys think about is look so the turtleneck the turtleneck is in the like a hundred thousand dollar chain half half face paint yeah the turtleneck is kind of like boy band from 1997 type look i don't know

i feel like a turtleneck in decent warm weather would actually like hamper you as a quarterback right yeah yeah i don't really like it i just think he's putting himself in a spot of like if you going to look like that you have to play really really really really good you also have to be a starter yeah yeah you can't wear all that yeah like play two plays a game not but in his case it's like everyone knows he's going to be the starter dress for the job you want not the job you have max but you also don't dress like that till after you should have to win yeah him dressing like that is making russ wilson play worse like joe burrow and dress like that off the rip well he's a starter off the rip right but i'm saying it took him like you know he didn't he kind of

he went to the Super Bowl and then he kind of became like Swaggy Joe, yeah. But if you're Russell Wilson, you look over at the sidelines and your backup is wearing the turtleneck and the chain and he's got the sweet towel

and everything, you don't exactly feel comfortable in your job security at that point. It's like this guy's obviously taking my job. How much fun do you think it is to get in for those two plays for Jackson Dart? You've got to be like, holy shit, that was sick

playing an NFL game. It's probably pretty sweet because now he can, like, go out in Hoboken, and they're like, yo, Jackson, you should be playing more often. He's like, I know. And also, like, you have to take a shower? Yeah. Like, you got to do something?

Yeah. Like, well, that didn't stop, Biz. That's true. Biz used to shower with the boys after he was a healthy scratch. Yeah, that's true. Though, that's just shower. That's just being a dude. Now, the Giants offense should run entirely through Camp Scataboo.

Oh, something about Scataboo. He is. Something about him. I can't put my finger on it. There's something about him that I trust. This seems like a hardworking lunch pill. gritty guy, ham and eggs. He just runs through people.

Yeah, he's awesome to watch with the ball. The balance that he has is just incredible. He's going through contact, spinning on one leg, and then getting up and screaming people's faces. At least the Giants have that to watch. Yeah. You have a couple things going for you if you're a Giants fan. One, Graham Ganoe's groin, I guess, isn't entirely shattered.

Yeah. Even though before the game, they basically said he wasn't going to kick. and then Gano was like I can make a 30-yarder just send me out there We need Like an amber alert Before a game

To like be like Hey the kicker's not playing Because it's weird shit's about to happen Yeah Because that's all to happen Is weird shit just happened Like you know They got their

Extra point blocked Will they won't they go for it I just want to know right away Because it just changes how a game goes Oh Graham Grono did come out So he did come out and kick one Yeah yeah That's what I said

So they brought him out to It was like a really short one towards the end Which made it for field goals for the game, which I appreciated. But they talked about him before the game like he wasn't, like the Giants weren't going to have a kicker, which happens all the time to the Giants. Yeah. They got to figure that out.

But at least you've got that. You've got Cam Scadabot, who's so fun to root for. And then you've got the prospect of Jackson Dart supplanting Russell Wilson at some point. Yeah. So you got some things. Malik Neighbors. Yeah. Malik Neighbors.

You didn't get. I think that's really like the big we got to be done with Russ is when you aren't getting the ball to Malik neighbor. He had two catches for 13 yards I know he got banged up But like you got I don't know He's just be done with Russ We've seen this too much

It's over the question is Is it this week against the Chargers You have to go to Los Angeles No that's at home Sorry at home against the Chargers And Andrew Thomas did play tonight He did He was on a snap count

So I always thought that they were going to wait Until he comes back To put Jackson Dart back in So maybe this week he's ready to go for the whole time Is it this week or is it the week after at the Saints? Probably Saints. I felt like it was the Saints. You want to protect him a little bit.

Yeah. That seems like the time. Yeah. But in the meantime, let's let James start against the Chargers. Yeah. Bridge quarterback. Give us fucking Jameses. A literal bridge quarterback, a weak bridge quarterback.

Yeah. A week long bridge quarter. Well, to save your fans from jumping off them. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, we, and Russ, you should want, like, you've had an awesome career, dude. We can't, this is just getting sad, right? Like, let's stop. Because he tries so hard.

And it's tough to watch. It's tough to watch. He was like, just throwing checkdowns at the end of the game, too, like into the dirt. Tough to watch. But the Chiefs have won their first game. And I think they'll be fine, too. Yeah. I think Chiefs are going to make the playoffs.

That Patrick Mahomes play that he had today was incredible. Through the ball backwards to Pacheco, who didn't really make, didn't really seem like it was his number one priority to dive on the ball. No. defense scooped it up. Mahomes with a chase down tackle and strip directly into his own hands. Got the ball back. Yep.

Yeah, we were talking about it in the cave. I actually, and you said to PFT, I think every time a quarterback throws it behind the line of scrimmage, that should just be a fumble. Yeah. That's a good point, Hank. Yeah.

Thanks. Thank you for reminding me to bring that up. What? I just search Mahomes. There's a lot of crazy memes. Hank made a great point, but you totally missed it. You weren't listening, so we'll see if you bring it up later. I was trying to find the clip of Mahomes, and then I got distracted.

Tell Max the point, Hank made. Wait, Max, what was Mahomes doing in the clip they brought up? It was, it was, Moho's loses 15 yards, and then Chris Collinsworth, like, fondling, or a meme of a guy fondling ball saying this is Chris Collinsworth. It was, I mean, Mahomes did it twice, where he just threw it backwards for, like, no reason. I still don't know it, Hank's. We threw the ball backwards and then, was it a fumble? Yeah, it was.

The first, well, the first time it was, but they didn't call it. Yeah, Zach, you think there's like a rule change or something? That everyone behind there's a fumble? Yeah, behind the line of scrimmage. Oh, that, okay. Got, got, got it. What do you think about that, Max? I think that that should be a rule change.

Yeah, okay. We should talk about that. Good shit. All right, let's finish up who's back of the week. Who's Back of the Week is sponsored by Twisted T. Twisted tea is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea and 5% of alcohol. Twisted tea is a perfect alcohol beverage to keep the good times going all season long, whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar

or just seeing where the day takes you. Twisted tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Keep it twisted, grab a tea. It's game time stock up on ice cold, twisted tea today. Okay, Hank. my who's back of the week is playoff baseball. Oh, you found one of me just... You found another one.

Chris Collinsworth watching Mahomes recover a fumble, and it's my quote from Saturday, I feel like I'd come right away. I was talking about soaking in Utah. Yeah, it's a fair point. Yeah, I got lost in the memes. That's on me. Yeah.

I was trying to do my job, and then I got distracted. All right. Yeah. Let's hold on to your butt sign. The AL especially. I think the Blue Jays clinched today. They were the first A. team to clinch a spot in the playoffs one week left in the season the tigers are collapsing imploding the guardians who seemed like you know I just follow the guys we have a bunch

of Cleveland guys that are here and it seemed like in the middle of season they had more or less given up surge even like a month ago it was kind of like they have no shot at the playoffs are so far back they might win the a L central yep and L I know is also like there's a lot of jockeying for position and a lot of stuff that can still happen the next week. So it's exciting. I mean, we got, we got Ryder Cup this weekend, and then it's, and then it's full-gear playoff baseball. Best time of year. Probably going to be Red Sox Yankees.

Yeah. Although every, legitimately every day, it switches. Yeah, right now, like the Astros and the Guardians are, would have to play, I think, another game. They had to play 163. They're both tied for the last playoff. So for the last wild cards. If the season ended today in the National League who's in,

It would be the Cubs versus the Padres and it would be the Dodgers versus the Reds because the Reds have the tiebreaker on the Mets. Because the Reds and the Cubs are BFFs and the Cubs let the Reds win baseball game so that the Mets don't make it. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah. I mean, the Cubs still have to play a little bit because they don't want to, they want to play home against the Padres.

And only three games up on the Padres. which will be a best of three all three games at home correct that's how the wild car works yeah it's awesome i'm excited too hank it's going to be fun do you think you're going to make it i don't i do but i ate 6535 yes you play the blue jays and i guess the blue jays and the tigers and the blue jays so the tigers will definitely be playing for something or most likely and the blue jays are still going to be playing for home field throughout because there are three games up right now

on the Mariners for home field throughout. Yeah. A.L.'s got some spicy races. There's nothing good like a little last week in the season pennant race. And you got Cal Raleigh who, what, 58 home runs? Yeah, he passed Griffey. So there's a chance that

he surpasses Aaron Judge if he continues hitting like this. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. For the A.L. record which some which the haters would say is the all time record yeah yeah it's pretty crazy he's awesome big dumper our guy uh but yeah playoff baseball's coming in yet the phillies are just cruising right now max yeah we lost two or three this weekend but okay we're we're basically we're in cruise control right now yeah but you could still maybe get the one seed yeah you'd have to win you know probably have to we're down we're we're two and a half back i mean we're we're probably

we're focused on getting the buy got it. The magic number is two right now to get the buy. The Mets aren't even in the playoffs right now. Correct. I, the Mets need to be in the playoffs. It's not happening. They fucking suck. Really? I mean, they just keep playing Cedric Mollies. He was the worst

trade deadline accusation of all time. He fucking sucks. I'm sorry. It's okay. Do you think he'll be in the playoffs memes? I don't. I do. Good answer. I do.

I do. In the Mets history, how many times are they made the playoffs in back-to-back seasons? I feel like this is going to be a one or two. Two. That is disgusting. New York teams are a joke. I'm rooting very heavily against the game. Max is so scared of having to go spend a week in New York and just be in that cave.

We did kind of set that precedent that if... What? If the Phillies make it against the Mets, then you go, yeah. We did. What does that look? Nothing. Oh. Red Sox Yankees?

What about it? Max is smiling ear to ear right now. That's a much different precedent. But they're both New York teams, and we have the New York office. People stream the games there. I'm not the one that said Max had to go. Well, yeah. What about last year?

Do you say you had to go last year? No, we can. But yeah, playoff baseball. I still haven't hopped on the bandwagon yet, so... Yeah, that's true, that's true. You're right, you're right. That's honestly very fair. That's a great point.

Regardless, okay, if you guys make the playoffs, are you automatically on the bandwagon? Yes, duh. What do you mean? Yes. Because you might be like, yeah, we're not the way of the thing. No, no, no, no. Are you watching any Red Sox games right now? No.

Yeah, that's... Are you checking the scores every night? Yes. Every night. That's running along it. Yeah. Now. It's like, in theory, he cares.

Once Roman Anthony got hurt, it was like, all right, we're kind of screwed. Maybe Team of Destiny, but it's like... That's fine. I was kind of waiting. I said it. I've been very honest about where I'm at with this team this entire year. And the Roman Anthony injury was like, well, that's our best player. He got hurt.

It's tough to win a World Series without your best player. If you make the playoffs, so just, you know, by design as you just have to do it. Like, you have to hop on the bandwagon and watch all the games. Philly's best player got hurt for the rest of the year? Bryce Harbour. Zach Wheeler Damn, Shaded Schwerber Are the Red Sox better without Devers?

Yeah, they have been, right? Yeah, I guess. I'm excited. I'm going to go to all the Cubs game. Well, they got to get the, they got to clinch the home games. But yes, I'm excited for supply of baseball. Very excited.

I need to be like 15 degrees colder. Don't you agree? Nah. No. You guys don't want that? This weather's been perfect. No, but it has to be like, you guys have, you guys agree that like the playoff baseball, you have to be in like the 60s.

I agree with that. If I had a team that was in the playoffs, I would be rooting for it to feel more like fall. Just 60s. I'm not asking for cold. I'm just saying, I don't want to watch playoff baseball in the 80s. Yeah, as a by. As a bystander, I'm okay with the 70s and 80s. What if it just goes back up as soon as the Cubs game is over?

Yeah, I'm fine with that. That's fine. I'm just, once it starts to get colder, then you start, then you start to think about that it's getting real cold. I agree, I agree. Which, speaking of which, daylight savings is coming up this Saturday.

So make sure you change your loss. I'm very excited for Zach's first. Oh, man. Oh, man. PFT, you're who's back at the week? Do you have that jacket yet, Zach? I don't yet. People have sent me some solid recommendations.

I have yet to acquire it yet because it's been so nice out still. It's been like, kind of good. Yeah, but you want to get the jacket before it gets cold. Great point. You're right. I got to get that. Just get a really nice warm jacket. Really nice. PFT. My who's back of the week is Ralphie. Yes.

Because Colorado got a new Buffalo Ralphie. Ralphie 7. This is the seventh Ralphie. The old Ralphie did not feel much like running. The new Ralphie made its debut over the weekend, and this Ralphie is fucking awesome. This Ralphie is fast. This Ralphie's debut. A little under control.

Shout out to Ralphie's handlers. I don't know how they tell the Buffalo which direction to run as it makes it circle kind of around the field but they get it right back in the pen awesome debut yep rookie of the year right now is ralphi in college football and by the way just if you missed it uh ralphi six did not pass away ralphi six released a press statement saying uh ralphi was no longer interested in running yeah so yeah did not feel much like running it was not it was not its thing the most relatable uh press release of all time but this ralphi it was born to run yes this ralphi i can until almost got away like a bat out of hell yeah this thing took off so uh this is good thing

this is all good things for the buffaloes yes absolutely um okay my who's back of the week i told you guys i'd tell this story because we were all uh separate this weekend i was in utah shout out utah by the way incredible crowd for big noon kickoff awesome stadium uh but on friday night i got uh i got rinaldi so tom rinaldi works for fox awesome dude and i say this in like the most loving way because he was like really nice fun person to like have dinner with but tom rinaldi is exactly tom rinaldi when you're watching like the when he talks to like a kid who's gone through adversity when he you know like e60s he obviously doesn't work at espion anymore he broke me down mentally like i see a therapist every week and it wasn't even close to what tom rinaldi did

to me how much could he charge as a therapist i dude he all right so here's two of the questions was asking me. He was also calling me cat, which I loved. He was just like, so cat. Uh, and again, I enjoyed this a lot, but this is just, I think Tom Rinal is just one of those guys that's very interested in people. How many people were at this dinner? It was two tables of like 10 each, but he and I were at the end of the table. So we were sitting across from each other. So it was like kind of one on one. Uh, he asked me one to 10 and you can't answer five, how much of a risk taker would you say you've been in your life? And I was like, what, what is that question?

This is a dinner question. And then the other one was, do you, I said a seven. And he said that his biggest regret is being too low of a risk taker. And I was like, okay. Did you say that's bullshit I want to answer five? No, I thought about it more because like saying can't answer five is like, oh shit. I think that's his trick because if you want to answer five, that actually means that you're a one. Yeah, right.

But I didn't want to answer a five. And then his other one was, he's like, Cat, would you say you fear rejection or failure more? And I was just like, what is, it just blew my mind how he would just ask these questions. He just kept on going through it. Yeah, I would need like a follow up on that one too. Yeah, I did. Aren't they kind of the same thing? But they're not.

If you get rejected, doesn't that mean you failed at not getting rejected? No, you can, like, you can fail without rejection and you can. can be rejected without being fit because i was talking about like you know working at barstool and like what other people thought about it rejection is that rejection is a failure so yeah i got rinaldi i think my biggest fear is now getting rinaldi it was i actually like enjoyed the dinner so much with him but uh it was just very funny because his cadence his tone it's exactly the same and i got to basically do my own like mini e60 with tom rinaldi at dinner he should have a a little like portable piano that he pays somebody to follow him around with

it makes their like really somber like twinkling sounds and notes provides the soundtrack to the interview yeah so many people must cry when they talk to Tom yeah I think he was trying to get me to cry I was pretty close also I came back and I we all do this we have dumb thoughts in our head and then we say them out loud and then when you say them around

people and they're like what the fuck did you just say that happened to me because we were talking about how we all have tummy stingers right now and I was like yeah I have diarrhea I think it was just the altitude and I had Italian for dinner on Friday and everyone laughed in my face and it like altitude? I was like, yeah, it must have been it. I heard that excuse. I was like we're blaming the altitude diarrhea. It wasn't because I ate like 4,000 calories in six different desserts at the Italian dinner. Well, it was the altitude. The air's thin. What's it going to do to your poop? Yeah, because I had convinced myself. I was like, I'm not sick. It's the altitude.

Yeah, I've been, uh, I've been working off diarrhea for about four days now, three days. Tell me stingers. Tell me stingers. What do you got, Hank? What are you looking at? What? Can you speak? This is a podcast.

I'm just, are we rule? Like, we got it. There's an elephant in the room here. What? The ice cream machine. No. These guys said they didn't, I didn't get it till I had two servings. I haven't had ice cream in a month.

I also didn't get it until Friday and I didn't have any ice cream on Friday. I didn't. I was in a no ice cream today. Yeah, all right. Matt, that might be because you haven't had ice cream. Your body's like, what's going on? Maybe. I did have ice cream even though I have a tummy stinger.

That's how tough I am. I was like, fuck it. I'm not going to let this take me down. And then it did take me down even further. Zach, finish it off. My who's back of the week is PFT. I was recently tasked with some logistics on the most recent pop-punk show. And I was reminded that outside of this podcast, PFT is also just a punk rock star.

I've seen him do guitar riffs in the office and some clips, but seeing it on the stage in real time was pretty sick and just being able to have like a being able to be that good in a musical instrument to be able to come together as a band and perform for people was sick to watch. Thank you, Zach. The shows are a lot of fun. And Zach did a great job, by the way, him and Jacob, the cream team guys. They were the roadies for Poppunks and made the drive to Bloomington.

They got everything that are safe and sound. Zach, you drove back. I did. And everything was cool with your drive. Everything was good. No, no issues. Okay. The parallel parking job that you guys did outside the venue was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my entire life, though.

It took them probably, what, seven minutes to parallel park? It took quite a while, but that van, no windows in the back. River mirror, useless, void mirror, not good. That's true. What did you guys talk about? Throughout the drive? Yeah, on the drive. Oh, it was all over.

the place. You know, you start with music, but then after a while, the music goes out the window. Then we start getting a little bit personal. He's going into some family stuff. He was giving me backstory. I was giving him a little bit back story. You know? And you guys were great on stage too. It was a good ride. You guys were ripping shots on stage. Hell yes. Cool to see, Zach. It was sick to watch you guys perform. I thought that was awesome. He absolutely shreds. He absolutely rips the guitar and the stage presence as well. So he, so he's like captivating the audience and destroying the guitar at the same time. Pretty sick. You know what we call that? What do we call that? A rock star. Punk rock star.

Stamp it I think there's a There's a chance That at the Chicago show I think we might do Freebird again Oh hell yes Sick I think And I'm gonna try to get

One of the Freeburg guitars to do it Hell yes Even though I'm not worthy of touching it Or looking at it Hell yes We'll see Okay Numbers

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31 you're birthday hell you which is 131 days away oh we got the clock set yeah yeah I'm 130 days away oh yeah you

aren't you getting a death clock yeah we gotta get memes death clock sick love you guys love you memes whatever I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be able to be.

You know, I'm going to be able to be. You know what I'm going to be.