Pardon My Take - NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Vikings Are For Real, Do The Jets Have Problems, Joe Flacco Is Back And More

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

We start with the fastest 2 minutes. Then recap every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:09:39) Vikings 31, Packers 29 (00:09:39-00:20:57) Falcons 26, Saints 24 (00:20:57-00:28:36) Bears 24, Rams 18 (00:28:36-00:42:57) Colts 27, Steelers 24 (00:42:57-00:52:33) Bengals 34, Panthers 24 (00:52:33-00:56:53) Broncos 10, Jets 9 (00:56:53-01:14:04) Bucs 33, Eagles 16 (01:14:04-01:29:47) Texans 24, Jaguars 20 (01:29:47-01:41:09) Commanders 42, Cardinals 14 (01:41:09-01:49:37) 49ers 30, Patriots 13 (01:49:37-01:52:10) Raiders 20, Browns 16 (01:52:10-02:00:25) Chiefs 17, Chargers 10 (02:00:25-02:09:05) We finish with who's back of the week. (02:09:05-02:24:02).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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We start in Atlanta where Kaderil Hodge brought the team on a pilgrimage to Mecca, aka the end zone for six to start the scoring after Rashid Shahid Wallace said, the ball don't lie in my hands. I don't want to be anyone other than what I've been as a running back lately as taste some one tree hill tried to get his team to an NFCW, but it was the Falcons with no timeouts left using the leg of life is a young way. I want to kick it 58 yards long to seal the victory for Atlanta. Falcons 26, Saints 24. We go up to Wisconsin where the Packers got served a healthy dish of green eggs and Sam. As Darnold said, I will only throw one interception today.

I will throw three touchdowns past Green Bay. Justin Jefferson Davis said, you can't cover my entire route tree son. And the Vikings pass succeeded against the Packers depleted secondary. The Green Day Packers in the month two and two saying once again, wake me up when September ends. The Vikings 31 the Packers 28. In Carolina where Chupa Hubbard said suck it amigo running for over 100 yards and a touchdown. The Bengals went to the ATM and took out their chase card for pay dirt as Jamar and Brown scored three touchdowns combined.

David Lepper looks like he had all the Panthers fingers and hands falling off as the Bengals win the battle of the Jungle Cats. Bengals win the Battle of the Jungle Cats. Bengals 31. Bengals 34. Panthers 24. And we head out to the Airy Stay in the NFC South. The Bucks and the Eagles with our reporter Max Delente. We head over to Tampa where the Eagles officially suck.

Rashad W-H-I-T-E Goodman had the Eagles defense looking like average Joes. Eagles fans have had enough of Bryce not so tough as he once again had another game with no tackles and no quarterback pressures. Darius Flay got cooked all day and went on to Twitter to talk about how many fucking Pro Bowls he has Nick Sirianni stinks, this team stinks, Bucks 33, Eagles 16. Oh, thank you, Max. That was great

Ah, let's stick. Let's go to the AFC East with memes up in New York We had the MedLife Stadium where Zack Wilson wanted to soak in all the memories of days when the rain came with Robert Salah la la la la la la la la la la la you can't coach Hi, I'm Jaleel Sarah McLaughlin every Sunday innocent Jets fans are abused Neglected and they're crying out for help Please call the number on your screen right now to help a Jets fan today while I run all over your defense in the second Half Alec Lizard Baldwin needed proof that his gun was fake but the refs didn't believe him, while Greg Sirloin was overcooked leaving fans with a bad taste in their mouth. Broncos

10, Jets 9. Great job memes! We head over to Indy where Anthony Richardson came out looking a little grungy and what's that sound? Flakko son won't you come and wash away our pain Flakko son you're not done that was fun Justin how does it feel was like a rolling stone into the end zone scoring twice Shane the rise and fall of the third stike end wins this battle of two teams that used to look up to Arians. Coates 27, the Steelers 24. In Chicago where Calibral Williams in the Bears offense got swift voted as Deandre had

16 John Carries for 93 yards and a touchdown. DJ More Moore Moore said, how do you like it? How do you like it? As he scored to give the Bears a second half lead, which was enough after Sean McFay went out like Moses leaning on his Stafford. Bears 24, Rams 18, I should've said Staff-ford. Or Bears 24, Rams 18, ah, out West in the afternoon. Henry Lockwood we go down to San Jose

Jake Maddai moody Okay, he's okay. He's okay power through boom throw stop come on boom Jake Maddai Moody showed he had or in the first quarter knocking down two field goals to get the scoring going Cody showed he had horror in the first quarter knocking down two field goals to get the scoring going. Fred Kurt Warner bagged an interception clean off the bone of a jacoby brisket throw and he could go all the way for a defensive touchdown. Brock of House Party knighted Sir Gregor Clegane Kettle with a mountainous dime in the fourth quarter in the end zone and the quarter of the endzone, quarter, quarter, quarter.

And Jordan Mason Ramsey, yodelay, yodelay, yodelay. His way to the endzone to cap off a 30 to 13 victory for the San Francisco Super 49ers. Great job Hank. Down to Arizona where Jaden Danielson took on Cobra Kyler Murray as Mr. Jeremiyagi McNichols swept the leg with two touchdowns. Bobby Wagner group might be a mercenary but he helped the commies put a poot in their ass. Cliff King's Mimba Berry, Mimba when he coached the Cardinals, Mimba that and then he put 42 on their head because I'm remember, Commander's 42, the Cardinals 14. Standing on the corner, Jameis, Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see.

It's Vegas my lord, don't peg us cause we're sore God damn we hate the referees It sucks because we Locked down on Crosby And our QB shares some trays With Bill Cosby The Raiders 20 Brown 16. And that is the fastest two minutes from week four in the NFL.

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the wheel of our favorite truck, the Chevy Silverado. Okay, week four in the books. We're watching the fourth quarter of the Ravens-Bills game. Looks like the Ravens are all the way back Big cat. Yeah, I got two words for you. Yeah, you know what they are big D big D big D Big D that it's like a stiff arm out there that big D. That's a skip bail is saying big D Derek Henry. Yeah, the the Raven the Ravens we knew had an awesome awesome rushing offense Bill's rushing defense looks extremely suspect. Yeah, we kind of knew that a little bit though, but they're getting big boy They're getting bullied around it was yeah It's one of those the Bills coming back down to earth the Ravens ascending back to what we expected preseason after an own to start

There also is just nothing More intimidating than the Ravens going all blacks in on a Sunday night game at home. It's just, it's something about it. Under the lights the all-black uniforms are amazing. They should never wear the all-blacks in the in the light of day. Yeah it adds like five points of strength to every player. Yeah there is like some studies that have been done that show that teams that wear red are more intimidating Hmm and like overall they tend to win more that might have been skewed because at the time the study was done

I think man United was like rolling off six EPLs Yeah, and the Chiefs in Georgia and the Chiefs Yeah, and Georgia, but yeah the all-black uniforms if they're on a good team. They make that good team better. Yes, I agree I agree. All right, so Lamar Jackson is good now that he's no longer a fat ass like apparently he was last year. Yeah he's Slender Man and he's killing it and yeah Derrick Henry is I mean he's having a yard touchdown I did not think Big D had an 87 yard touchdown still in his bag. That's the crazy part is he weighs what like 250 pounds maybe and yeah and nobody could catch him. No one could catch him. It was shocking yeah so

we'll put a bow on it when the game goes final But the Ravens dominate and it was one of those nights where Josh Allen was not He wasn't fully Chris Josh Allen and we had the disaster play where everything went wrong When they look like they were gonna get back in the game and they did what even was that play? It was like he was out wide and then they they ladled it to me I cute with it is what they got way too cute with it. They they lateraled him He tried to bomb it. He got strip sacked and then he also got a dome piece to the dome piece Yeah, don't piece to the dome piece. Alright, so docking let's start with

Hand up I was wrong. Oh Derek Henry just fumbled into the end zone and I don't know what the pile is All right We'll stop updating this game, but I was wrong I thought that the Packers would win this game Vikings 31 Packers 29 I am now officially ready to take the Vikings for real I needed this win for them to take them fully for real and Sam Darnold I Maybe he's just different now because yes the game started and he tried to throw an interception on like the second pass of the game It was he someone just dropped it on the Packers

He threw it right at him and then from that point forward I think he started like 10 of 13 130 yards and three passing touchdowns and they were up 20 to nothing in a blink of an eye Yeah, he was doing this without Addison and without Hawkinson He got Addison back and having Addison out there makes a big difference to for that offense. Yes, I actually think that the Minnesota Vikings are I'm gonna I'm gonna say they're for real. They are for I heard a couple people I heard some national some talking heads, Teddy brusky saying this is gonna be a true colors game for Sam Darnold, where he's going to show his true colors. Yeah. Back to being old Sam. Uh, he is anti Sam eddick. I am not anti Sam eddick. I, I believe in Sam. I believe more so.

I think it's a perfect fit for him. Yeah. It's the receivers are in Christ. Sam Darnold is not all of a sudden a top three quarterback, but he is playing like a top three quarterback and the receipt. He has some of the best, I mean, Justin Jefferson's the best receiver in football yeah he's got great weapons he's got a great system great head coach yeah and he's he is playing well I don't want to take anything away from no I'm not like it thought experiment if the season ended today he might not be MVP but he would be maybe second or third

for MVP mmm season and today MVP because going into tonight it was like Josh Allen it was Josh Allen Nico Collins, I think you have to talk about Jaden Daniels Jaden Daniels. That's why you did this I got exactly why he did this. I didn't think about it. That's exactly why he did this conversation Not true, but once I started I felt for the trap good to say once I started going I was well done. I realized wait a second. Wait a sec. It's it's completely well done. Listen It's foreign to me to have somebody that I could say that about that wouldn't be considered utter joke So I'm not planning

I don't know enough about how to how to act like I've been there before because I've never been there So I'm not laying traps for anybody, but I thought there's a good trap I it was a good trap, but I think Sam Darnold would be in that conversation This is good because max is starting to get a little I think it'd be So now that you bring it up well Sam Darnold good point in that conversation. This is good because Max is starting to get a little angry with you. I think he'd be lower than Shane Daniels though, now that you bring it up. Well Sam Donald. That's a good point Hank.

Sam Donald is the first QB. It's been 21 since. He's the first QB to win, to start 4-0 and have at least two passing touchdowns in each of his first four starts. That's crazy. He's been playing incredible. Justin Jefferson is a maniac hit that not even the touchdown

patch catch that he caught like with one hand against his chest. The catch he made at the end of the game like it was I think it was late fourth quarter along the sideline. Sam Donald kind of led him too far. I don't understand the guy like his body control is so out of this world to get that extra foot down. It's he's just so so good he's so much better than everyone else and again not taking any away from Sam Donald, but Justin Jefferson is just that special and This game was they jumped all over him. My question for you PFT is does Malik Willis win this game? So that's a good question big cat. Thank you. I've come the other way around Yeah, now I think that Malik Willis is the best fit for that offense Jordan Love I think came back a little too soon. Yeah. I think he's rushing

himself a little bit. He probably he saw Malik out there. He's like, I don't want to lose my job to Malik Willis. But tell you what, in terms of in terms of Jordan Love, I think we should turn it over to somebody who's actually been there before, walked a mile in those shoes to hear his thoughts, because Jordan Love got open lettered after the game. Dear Jordan, just a reminder that one game, one play or one pass doesn't define you. Way to show resilience today. You have a long career ahead. Just keep going forward. Number four. Oh, so he wore a Brett Favre jersey going into the game today. He also in a touching tribute to Brett Favre was the first Packers quarterback to have four touchdowns and three interceptions since Brett Favre last did it in 1999.

That's amazing. That's pretty cool. That is that's a touching tribute. And also like Brett Favre, he wasn't looking out for his own welfare. Yes, because he rushed himself back to too soon. The member we used to joke about the Josh Rosen stat line where he would go like 12 for 17 for 103 yards. Yep. Jordan love and no touchdowns, no interceptions. Jordan love had whatever the opposite of that is he had the fullest day possible. He went 32 for 54 389 yards for touchdowns three picks.

Yeah there we go. You felt him. There we go. You felt his presence in the game. It was good to see him back out there. No he got hot in the second. I mean the end of the game he was red hot. Second half was all packers.

Yeah it was all packers. So the Vikings were happy that they built up what was it a 28 to nothing. 28 nothing like. And then and then there was that was it a muff punt. So many muff punts today. Yeah, muff punts left and right. But at the end of the half, the the Packers got a score. And then it was all Packers after that. Shout out Matt LaFleur who knew who actually did the correct thing and went for two

down 14. Yes, yes. He was big on the math today. So it was it was a closer game, then we're probably making out to seem but I still think that Sam Donald, he's a big reason why this Vikings team is where they're at. He they have probably the best weapons. Oh, I agree team in the NFC. But also he's done a great job. And there's something about a quarterback that has to go through such absolutely shitty situations, where when they

finally get to a place that steady, they just love it so much more. And so he's Sam Donald's seen some shit in his career. Yeah, he's seen some real shit with Adam Gase, then with the Panthers. And then he kind of got nursed back a little bit foster home. He got foster home by Kyle Shanahan. Now maybe he's got his forever home. He, he, I'm sure we'll have one game or Sam, old Sam, drawn will come back, but I do believe in Sam Donald going forward. Yeah, I do. I do. I mean, they're playing great ball. Their defense is great. They blitzed to great effect against Jordan Love today. As for the Packers, yeah, I think you rushed

Jordan Love back. You shouldn't have done that. You might have also the Packers were down two great corners. They were. So they were in Jayarik's Alexander. He likes playing against Justin Jefferson. I feel like Justin Jefferson. Well, Justin Jefferson beats everyone. Yeah, so that's not really You know a shot at Jayar Alexander But that was a big piece of the Packers playing really good defense in the first three weeks of the season under Jeff Haffley but Jordan love I hope he doesn't I hope he didn't find his groove. I think he found his groove second I think that fourth quarter he found his groove. He left that makes his groove. I think he found his groove second fourth quarter

He found his groove. He let's that makes me scared. He looked better for sure the second half Yeah, if the season did in today, I would say Kevin O'Connell probably coach of the year Kevin O'Connor Kevin O'Connell O'Connell O'Connell you nailed it the first time Kevin O'Connell coach of the year Probably Yes, I'm trying to think. I think going into today you could have made it an argument for Matt LaFleur.

Andy Reid maybe. Andy Reid's still pretty good. Cause he's just always. Yeah but that's the thing like you can't be dominant and win coach of the year. Todd Bowles. And they just had the roughs. Maybe Dan Quinn.

It's a little, he's trapping us again. He's trapping us again. If the season ended today would the commanders be in the playoffs? Yeah they'd actually win the division There you go. Is that interesting? That is interesting. Good fact. Yeah, okay next game or do we have anything else on this game? Oh One thing I got right about this game was an offseason thought Aaron Jones is is really good And I don't know why that triangle happened. Yeah, very strange. I mean I said it in the time

I was like I understand Josh Jacobs good, but Aaron Jones is a really good running back and he proved it today yeah, like 139 yards total and Yeah, he's good. It was sad He didn't get to do the Lambeau leap because he was gonna try to do it if he scored I think he might have done it after the game, but that's that's a different Lambeau leap How much is Aaron Jones getting paid getting paid one year? Seven million and how much is Josh Jacobs being paid? Let's find that out. He only gets seven million a year. Yeah, that's what I just saw running backs

Josh Jacob is getting paid 14 and a half. No, you four-year 48 million. So 12 million a year. I don't know Aaron Jones for seven. Yeah, would you rather have I guess they want to give him a long term deal Josh Jacobs or are like one and four fifths Aaron Jones is. Yeah, tough, tough call. That's why we're not the Aaron Jones is 29 years old. So that does complicate things like you can't Yeah, I think that was part of it is Josh Jacobs is 26. You can give him a four year deal that you could probably cut him after two years Aaron Jones You he probably wanted more years and that's hard for a 29 year old running back. Yeah, I still think I mean Aaron Jones was he was Good last year. He's been good in Green Bay his entire career. Yeah

Okay, next up Falcons 26 Saints 24 This is a game the Saints are really really really going to be kicking themselves if they're sitting outside the playoffs the end of the year because they held the Falcons to zero offensive touchdowns and still lost 26-24. Yeah. It's tough to do. The last time that a team lost a game when they scored 24 points or more and gave up zero offensive touchdowns.

Any guesses? Never. No, it's happened. It's happened before. But the last team that did it was in 1983. You have to go all the way back to 1983. And it was the Saints. Oh, it was also the Saints. The Aints. And we've got, we've got a new big stats are for losers guy. Okay. Raheem Morris dropped the stats are for losers on the press after the game. They asked him, how come Kyle Pitts didn't get involved at all? Which he didn't. I don't think he had a single reception. I don't think he had a single yard. And he said, you know, in my opinion, stats, they're for losers. I honestly think, well, I love that by the way, uh, we always need more stats are for losers coaches

out there. I think that you could convince me that, uh, somehow Arthur Smith's game plan was left in Raheem Morris's office this morning. There was just an old game plan from last year that he picked up because Bijan only had two rushes in the second half. Yeah. And Tyler Algier had eight. Yeah, Tyler, they said it was a hot hand with the Rocks, so they kept going to him. Which he kind of was.

It was seriously like last year's Falcon It's like what is happening right now? I was starting to buy and the Falcons won this game, but I was starting to buy into the Falcons are fun This is different than last year. Like this is gonna be a lot of fun. It's not gonna be a bummer Kirk Cousins is a Significant step up from Desmond Ritter. But yeah, I was like what what's going on? Their offense just didn't look good today but special teams and a pick six but I can get it for him I can guarantee you on the hoku if if Desmond

Ritter played this game they would have lost yeah I'd agree he probably would have screwed it up more than Kirk Cousins I don't even is he on a team uh was he on is he on the Cardinals I think he was but then I don't think he made the roster did Did he get cut? I think he was that's never a good thing Uh, oh no, he's yeah, he's on the Cardinals. All I want to know from the from the Falcons. Where was this performance? Where's this defense during Arthur's Arthur blank commemorative cup night? Yeah, seriously Well, it was there the Chiefs just stole it from you can't show up for your owner on commemorative cup night This is a ball bounces game for me where like the or a ball don't lie. The chiefs game, the Falcons probably played to a level they should have won this game. The saints probably played to a level they should have won, but the Falcons

won it. So kind of evened out. But now who would you say? So I bucks are obviously one and they just played, but who going forward, you believe in the Falcons more than the saints? I tend to think that I don't know. I don't know. I think, I think they're very, very Yeah, and they just played but who going forward you believe in the Falcons won the Saints I Tend to think that I don't know. I don't know. I think I think they're very very even So when this game is played in New Orleans later on this year, I think the Saints right now the the entire Series between these two teams. It's now 56-55 for the Falcons perfect. So life finds a way I feel like the Saints will win the next one, but they're very, I don't want to say they're similar teams, but I think they're equally sneaky, lucky, good. Let me throw this out there for you. Uh, Saints hot start looked awesome. Have to compliment

the two and oh, the way they did it. Uh, Bryce young Panthers, maybe one of the worst teams of all time. Uh, Bryce young Panthers, not Andy Dalton Panthers. And of the worst teams of all time. Bryce Young Panthers. Different team. Not Andy Dalton Panthers. And the Cowboys might not be that good. The Cowboys might stink. So 2-0. Can't apologize for 2-0. It was an impressive 2-0. But they just found a way in both these games the last week with the Eagles and this week with the Falcons where their defense played well and they just couldn't find a way to win. I think after-

So the offense that we were saying like, holy shit, it's changed everything. It's like, where is that? After week two, we were crowning their asses. Oh, you have to. Yeah, it was a good two and oh, the most dangerous lead in hockey though. Listen- Maybe the NFL. If we were ever going to rename this podcast, it would just be the knee jerk podcast because

whatever happened two hours ago is the thing that I think is going to keep happening for the rest of time. And then I'm shocked when something different happens. Yeah, that's that's a fact. So Kirk had the quote of the day, I think after after the game was over, they talked about the rivalry. It was his first experience in a Saints Falcons game, which I saw like four or five videos of fights in the stands. Yeah, these were different fights. Yeah, there was head stomping going on. Yeah,

there was like some brutal shit that might have been Falcon on Falcon crime. Well, you also have to remember that now that Arthur blanks name is up in the rafters, you have to put on for your own. You got to he's watching you have to defend that house. God is watching. Yeah, Arthur blank is watching you fight and try to bash someone's brain in in the 300 level of the Mercedes Benz. Don't yeah. So they asked Kirk cousins about the rivalry afterwards. And they said, did you hear them when they were playing swag surfing? Yeah, Kirk said, Yeah, they're playing that song about the swag. The surf. This is I was like, this is pretty sweet. It's exactly what I expected. Yeah, perfect. Perfect answer from Kirk cousins. I want there should be a travel show where Kirk Cousins just gets experience like

Atlanta culture and yeah watching him do it. Yeah, I would I would watch that every day of the week So no magic city who's who do the Saints have next week? Mmm, let's find out. Let's play whose line is anyway. Can you give it to me Hank? Can you give it to me? You got it. Who do they got? Hey, you should just be on on on Constance he had whose line is anyway duty the Chiefs. Oh Where oh wait? No, they might have a bye. Oh Their next where is the Chiefs at Kansas City? I forgot we have buys That's one day October 7th, bro. Yeah, Monday October 7th, bro. I'm bro. I'm bad Matt at the Chiefs

Yeah Saints the Chiefs Yeah Saints at Chiefs Chiefs minus Five I'm going to say Chiefs Oh Four and a half six and a half final answer four and a half is Chiefs minus five and a half

All right, I I Am actually surprised when I said six and a half. I thought to myself that's too high you dummy Mm-hmm, but I would think that it would be lower than that given the injuries for the chiefs That's where I went five to four. Yeah. Yeah. Okay the model our advanced analytical model in our brain The model our advanced analytical model in our brain Knowing these two franchises. I'm just gonna take chiefs money line. Just let the chips fall with it man It feels like Saints might cover but chiefs money line. Yeah, I can't I can't I

Don't think I can picture The New Orleans Saints playing in Kansas City has that ever happened in the history of the NFL There's so many matchups that you obviously know, but this one is one Where it's like wait, this doesn't make sense. Yeah, like have the Jaguars ever played the Giants? No in London, maybe yeah in London for sure But yeah that the Saints at the Chiefs. I'm trying to think There's a game. Can you find it? 2016 was the last time. Whoa. Okay. Well, I guess that makes sense That's probably as long ago as it's possible. Yeah Yeah, I shouldn't have acted with surprise. That's exactly how schedules go in the NFL every every eight years you play at the other team

Yeah Okay Next game. What do you have Hank? You had something for us? No, you're right the eight years cuz wait 2016 What do you have Hank? You had something for us? No, you're right. The eight years. Wait, 2016. They also won in 2000. Who are the quarterbacks? Alex Smith and Drew Brees.

Yeah. Yeah, that was easy. Drew Brees, Alex Smith. That was a dumb dumb thing to say. Okay. Next up, Bears 24, Rams 18. Bears might be back. Congratulations. Thank you. Felt good.

Yeah. I'm going to agree with you, big cat. The bears offensive line is bad. Yeah, it's bad. Really bad. So Jay or Caleb, when he's making, when he's dropping back to pass, he is having to make a decision within like half a second. It's pretty insane. Have to run backwards, get rid of the ball earlier or maybe just maybe they're going to hold up for enough time for him to hit somebody on a slant. It's pretty crazy. He had a clean game, no interceptions, had some really nice, the throw to DJ Moore was awesome, the throw to Cole Comed over the middle was awesome.

He's 69% completion percentage the last two weeks. Moving forward, 93-7 rating. My big thing is, apparently during the week, players had a basically intervention with Shane Waldron and said you have to be more aggressive. Caleb Williams, Mercedes Lewis, I think Cole Comet was there. Be more aggressive. This week.

They had to have that with their coach? Their offensive coordinator, yes. Yeah, it's good times. Hey, listen. You have negatively affected my career in the following ways. Here's the thing Hank put it into perspective Okay, this is all about perspective our offensive coordinator hasn't had to Leave the team and be fired slash resigned from the team And then there's reports that the FBI is taking out his house which happened last year with our defensive coordinator around this time

so these are baby steps he's still here cuz I was about to say that kind of a bad thing though no it's a good thing you want him as I do want him gone but I don't want I'd rather our coordinators not have to resign and be suspected of crime big cat doesn't want to have guys and you could break into hell on a crime you would probably take it. Yes. Yes. I assume that depends on what kind of yes also yes. He put me under the gun there. Yeah. That was that wasn't fair. But yeah, because I was about to say I'm glad they had the intervention because I think that Caleb might be reaching the point where he needs to just like take bad play calls and be like fuck this guy

I'm not running this play. He did that a couple times today. Yeah as a rookie. It's hard to reach that place Especially he wants to be like a good quarterback He wants to be somebody that's easy to work with so he probably doesn't want to fuck with anybody right off the bat But it was so bad at the start of the season that he at some point needs to say like we're not gonna do what This guy says they actually do give him like a lot of autonomy at the line and he's calling stuff and getting out of stuff. The other thing is the Bears actually could run the ball today. Deandre Swift turns out to make Deandre Swift good again.

We just had to have an entire week of the entire internet saying the guy fucking sucks. Yeah bullying works. We got Reggie Bush's Heisman back and now Deandre Swift is running to open daylight. Yeah, he had more yards today than he had weeks one through three combined and he had a nice touchdown run. Also Shane Waldron realized that, hey, this is where I say baby steps. He's learning from his mistakes. Last week when we had the abomination of goal line where we did a pitch play to the short side on fourth down and we ran everything out of shotgun and Wildcat.

This week we actually ran from under center with our backup center running his full back and Roshan Johnson who's a big back running it running back and it worked. That was an awesome block by the way. Yeah, Doug Kramer. Took him out. Is he from Chicago? I think he might be from the Chicago area. Yeah, I mean he was like, I basically he doesn't get in unless there's kneel downs. He's like, I fucking just wanna help the team. Yeah, he looks like a long lost.

He's from Hinsdale. He looks like a long lost O'Doyle twin. Yeah. Just a big dude with a big round face coming at you downhill. And I think the key to Deandre Swift is don't make him change direction in the backfield on a cut. If he can be hitting a hole, going like straight

in a perfectly straight line through a hole, then he'll just outrun and take better angles than everybody in the secondary. Yes. But don't ask him to like juke out a defensive lineman. Right. Right. Do that. Also the Bears have back to back touchdown drives today. Pretty progress. These are pro I mean, now the Rams are very very injured and I kind of expected the Bears to win this game just because You had the kitchen sink game last week and I gave that stat on Friday teams that come back and win a game down 14 In like the second half, they're just terrible against the spread. So In like the second half, they're just terrible against the spread. So the defense stepped up and stopped Stafford with strips, a fumble, a pick at the end. I was just happy.

It was fun watching the Bears win at home and we haven't even gotten to the real MVP of this game, Torrey Taylor, who is a fucking weapon. That one punt, I think I clocked it at 85 yards in the air. He won this game for the Bears in the end because at the end of the game, when you're, when you have to, you know, we're up less than a touchdown and you're trying to get your, you know, you can't get first downs, can't run the ball, don't have a good offensive line. You need to keep giving them long fields and hoping that your defense will stand up. He had five punts, uh, three of them inside the 20 and then he had the one in the fourth quarter,

a 66 yard punt to the eight yard line. You can't go wrong getting a punter from Iowa or a tight end from Iowa. Yep. It's two things they do well there. Yeah, but at that, he is an absolute weapon. Like I'm, I don't want to punt, but I'm excited to see how far he could punt every time he punts. And that punt that checked up was the thing of beauty too. Yeah. The on it put the English on it was his weapon. It was nice to watch

I like that Hank not a punter now No, I'll wait I want you to finish. Okay. I was just gonna say meme said something shocking to me today He said it's so funny how Sean McVeigh can only coach well against Kyle Shanahan Yeah, and I was like wait, wait a second. It's the opposite. It's the opposite and also Sean McVeigh can only coach well against Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. And I was like, wait, wait a second. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. And also Sean McVeigh is a really good coach. Yeah. Against one of the Superbowl that aren't Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. Memes. He won a Superbowl memes. He's been to two. I know, but this season. Oh, so if the Rams only two wins were against the 49ers this season, it would be very funny. But they've,

okay. So you should have said small sample size PFT, but it is funny that Sean McVeigh can only coach against Kyle Shanahan this season. He didn't have any more plays. He used all his plays last week. He used, he used everything. The man was playlist. He had no kitchen. He had everything but the kitchen sink. Yeah. Or no. Yeah. He, he could take the sink out of the socket and throw it out. He could restart things, go sockets. Yeah, the only thing he had Six are socket plug in a sink the sick. No, I said I said on Thursday I got a lot of people like full cadet. So you're still going sockets. Oh, that's not there came after you Yeah, no, you he still had the kitchen sink. That's the thing

Yeah, but he had nothing else the kids can't score touchdowns, right? You just wash your hands or piss in it I think we I finished after the game the Bears tweeted out which I agree with as someone who is a advocate for the double fist pump celebration oh yeah see this there was a clip of Caleb Williams walking off the field he was doing the double fist pump and I tweeted it I've caught into non-barstool AWL Twitter because people are like the guy can't even celebrate you're coming at him but then a lot of people trashing him saying this is like a yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-ki-yippee-yippee-ki-yippee-yippee-ki-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-yippee-y Don't know well. He feels different when he did it. I just when you did I see a commonality between the two Both winners. Yeah winners winners. We would know about that because we haven't won anything, but yeah hanks all over that

No, it looks awkward. No, you can't do the double fist pump and not look awkward. It's impossible It's kind of like a six-year-old. Yeah, a six-year-old. Hey, guess what? Guess what sport we're going for ice cream People are watching the podcast right now Guess what sport? We're going for ice cream. People are watching the podcast right now. Yeah. It's raw motion. That's what it is.

I agree. But that's raw motion usually looks bad. Like when you do something that is very athletic. Usually when like a cool guy does it. When you do something that's very like animalistic, it's usually not a good thing. Yeah. The thing about it is it's the jumping into the double fist pump that looks awkward. The double fist pump that's a cool move anybody can do that but when you take like a leap into it and then in midair you start

doing the fist pump it needs looks a little weird. It needs to be it needs to basically stay like like you're using shake weights yeah where it's like a uh almost a flex in a double fist pump but when you when you go like that. Yeah and PFT is right with like jumping and extending at the same time. Which is what you did as well. Maybe if you thought about next time you try to dunk, just think about jumping into a double fist bump. That might work.

Hey, I got a question. Yep. Question of the week. Question of the week. Actually, you know what? Rowback question. RHOBACK.com, promo code take, 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies,

joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Why don't you talk about dunking anymore? Oh, good question. I'm training. Thank you. I'm training. But why haven't you brought up dunking? Because you were very much gung ho, I'm going to dunk and I haven't heard you have any sort of confidence in like three months

Did you think we'd forget? I have not forgotten. I have trained Max, please rollback question as well. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead and ask question At what point do we start to think about shooting? Oh Cuz what was the thing you had to know? I'm still thinking about dunking He had to make trained four days a week for the last five weeks I'm like 25 threes in a row he's had really bad takes about shooting recently max yeah true I did an evaluation like an evaluation at my gym at the end of August and it was not as much progress that I had hoped so I said I'm gonna keep you know keep my head down I've trained hard for the last five I haven't checked since but I'm still I'm still going gung-ho. I still plan to dunk

I'm still training as if I'm going to dunk. I have not stopped because I haven't talked about it I have not stopped. I still think I'm gonna do it PFT Robot question extension, you know hoodies jogger shorts Hank PFT commenter part of my take Yes Cast you had alluded to this being the time of year where if you weren't making the progress that you wanted to, you would turn to the dark needle of steroids. Have you begun doing that or is it something that's in your imminent future? So again, like I haven't talked about it because I don't-

Talk about steroids. I don't want to get ahead of myself. I mentally had a bad evaluation at the end of August. I've gone hard for the last five weeks. I'll probably check again in the beginning of October. And then depending where I'm at is when. So the steroid decision is coming in the next two weeks. OK.

Just look at the calendar. Big Gathis might pertain to your question as well. It's September 30th on Monday. 30 days have September. It is, in fact, October this week. Correct. So we're moving that timetable up. What are you talking? I just I just said I instead a couple weeks in the next big cat robot question robot question rhob a CK calm

Henry when you say the words I had a bad evaluation How far away are you from dunks six inches? How far away are you from dunking? Six inches. That's a big six. Six inches? Six inches from dunking or six inches from the rim? Six inches from dunking. You think I'm six?

Bro, I'm six inches from the rim like standing up. Six inches. He's a beast. Six inches. So six inches in three months? Yeah. Oh boy. Hopefully, hopefully I've gotten two. Boy. We got to get on the stairway

I've gotten to it's gotta be star as the end of August can you touch the rim yes? Yes, you can you can I've seen it. I've witnessed it. Okay. Oh boy even fucking jump dude. Yeah Hank you raise your hand. Yeah, raise your hand Max is that a triple xl or quad? Fucking swimming if it's a triple or quad make sure it's row back calm. This is a to This is a to I mean, did you know the shirt he's wearing today? It's an old it's a stand-up. I want to see it Hank Don't don't fitting shirt. Oh, that's not bad. It's a big shirt. It's like a moomo Hey, don't talk about what you think the last thing that he dumped was it's just you actually want to see it you want to come and come and look at it you want to see that you want to see the tag I believe

you all right so you're gonna start shooting no not yet okay I'm gonna dunk I'm gonna dunk I've never trained harder for anything in my life golf I but I was gonna say like I train hard for Like yeah, I realized no sate's. Yeah, how'd you cheat? I was in my homeroom I knew the person I was moderating at the teacher so I knew he wasn't gonna like bust me I got I couldn't fit focus after the first like whatever hour two hours was so fucking long and I could I knew the girl that was diagonally in front of me She was way smarter than me I had like enough time and I wasn't worried about getting like caught in trouble because I knew the guy at worst would just

Be like hey, you know put your head back down So I was able to just read her whole test and I made the decision I was like, I'm pretty sure we have the same test I'm just gonna copy our answers for the scantron like multiple test part And if I'm wrong, I'll do that tease again because everyone else usually does them multiple times Got like a I think 1500 was average at the time I got a 1450 was was perfectly good with that and never did him again was a writing part Yeah, but for the for the multiple choice

Like I just got I couldn't I couldn't do it anymore And I was just like was able to read all of her questions I was like, I'm pretty fucking sure we had things smarter not harder. Yeah, when did they change the force? Just kidding mom So is the steroids yeah, that was a prank too. Yep. Yep. It's all just with is actually the row back prank section of the show All right, just got groaned that was our bears There's gonna be people who are gonna see the time stamps like fucking talked about the Bears so long Actually, half of it was just steroids and Hank. Ah, it's a good window. Yeah, it was good when it feels good feels good And we have some schedule Not scared. I'm not gonna say schedule wins. It's hard to win in this league, but the Bears have some games coming up that they should

Potentially win most notably coming up that they should potentially win, most notably Panthers, Jaguars, no longer Commanders and then Cardinals, Patriots. So four out of the next five. Yes sir. They should be able to, this should be a three and two, four and one type stretch, hopefully. I think that's realistic. Yeah. Okay. Colts, 27, Steelers Steelers 24 Joe Flacco Flacco's back, baby Flacco's back big time. Um Before we get to Flacco who was good big third down throws like Joe Joe Flacco Just a third down like third and ten. Give me Joe Flacco. Um

Is shane steichen trying to get anthony richardson hurt? So what happened was he got he got injured the play before he got injured. He got injured with a hip oblique, came out for a couple snaps, came back in and Shane Steichen was like sick. QB run. Yeah for a guy that gets a lot of credit being a great play caller that seemed like it was it was like a little bit intentional. He came back in for a QB run, took a shot to the head. Was it a concussion that put him out? I know I think it was a hip oblique. Oh, you owe the Yeah, the second hit that he got I don't know, but I think there might have been a conspiracy to have Joe Flacco in Which I'm for because Joe Flacco should be playing in the NFL Joe Flacco Said after the game very funny. He said they asked if yeah, they he thinks that Anthony Richardson thinks he's cool

He said I'm eight days older than his mom. So there's asked if he thinks that Anthony Richardson thinks he's cool. He said I'm eight days older than his mom. So there's no way he thinks I'm cool. Yeah, little perspective for you. I like that Joe Flacco. In my opinion, he is cool. Yeah, Joe Flacco is the coolest. He looked good. He still has that arm. And if you're a Browns fan, what the fuck are you? The Cleveland Browns have run like Joe Flacco going out there and winning this game Baker Mayfield being dominant at the exact same time. If you're a Browns fan, you were watching this early slate and you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. Why do we, why did we keep doing that?

Why did we end? You have Jamis. Yeah, you got James. Yeah. Joe Flacco like outs. Obviously the RPOs are big for an Anthony Richardson's legs are a big part of his game. But in terms of the deep bombs, Joe Flacco. Flacco on cork one today, it almost hit the roof. I think it might have touched the roof. Granted, it was under thrown by like three yards, which was kind of the Joe Flacco special.

He had his deep under throws, where you draw a pass interference. But this one that he threw, it came down with a teardrop of God on it. It went so high up in the air and just arched down. It's a beautiful thing. He's aged like a wine. It's beautiful. And it was tough for Anthony Richardson because he actually came out and his first drive was really good. I think he went right down the field on the Steelers and then got hurt. But yeah, I

hurt but I yeah I I don't know the Steelers like defense I talked about on Friday that I I feel like we've maybe crowned them a little bit too early they're very good mm-hmm but they also played some not great quarterbacks and now that's played Joe Flacco he won a Super Bowl he's elite he knows the Steelers he knows the Steelers So and in a weird twist of fate Justin Fields who I think has played well in the first three weeks Maybe not incredible, but the defense carried him this week the defense faltered and Justin Fields had his best game Yeah, there were some times when he did not look that good. He was like really really it was patchy form There were some times when he like around the goal line when he can just run and knock one dude

over on his way into a touchdown. He's still very good at that. And he still can make more throws I think than the Steelers have seen recently. Yeah, I mean, he had 312 yards. Yeah, but there, there were some stretches of the game there always are where it looked a little bit dicey for him. He was like double clutching a lot, big wind up taking too much time in the pocket. But overall he was not the problem today. I think the Steelers defense, I want to be careful with how I say this because we like TJ Watt and he's a dominant player, one of the best defensive players in the NFL.

He loves to just go immediately to where he thinks the quarterback is going to be on a five step drop. Yeah. Like he leaves a pretty big gap there sometimes that you can just exploit and roll Wow, JJ is going to I said this to Jersey Jerry. I said no JJ. Why JJ? Why you don't know ball to JJ's you're gonna say yeah, you get double JJ. I can take on JJ What maybe not Jersey Jerry if he's pissed off but TJ he leaves a big gap there. So yeah, I think he bought a gun

JJ what no Jersey Jerry. He did. Yeah. It's got a red dot. Put a red dot on it. Yeah. Yeah. Also, one of the one of the weirdest things to just walk in and him just being like, Yeah, I got a gun. Yeah. Okay. He was like, if I just if I just showed it to Jack on a stream, you think I get suspended? I was like, maybe I'd rather not have a handgun on the stream. You think I'd get suspended? I was like, maybe. I'd rather not have a handgun on the stream. Yeah, but he's got permits. So yeah. Also, George Pickens had one of the dumbest dumbest fumbles I've ever seen. He just kind of twisted around and he kept the ball outstretched for

no reason. It got knocked out. Easy fumble. He also, he also extended the ball at one point on like the 25 yard line as he was being tackled. Yeah, he'd already gotten a first down by a significant margin by like five, 10 yards. And he extended the ball to get like an extra yard in the open field as he was being tackled. Yeah, with Pickens, he also had a bad drop, but it's reached the point where I would not be shocked if at some point in his career, George Pickens made like a one handed leap and grab got turned around midair, sprinteded the wrong way scored a safety and then got a taunting penalty celebrating before he realized it wasn't a touchdown I wouldn't I wouldn't put it back he just does crazy shit every week he's fun to watch and

he's just he's he's an insane talent at wide receiver but this guy is nuts yeah um so do we think the Colts are gonna roll with Joe Flacco for a while? They might be that listen Joe will I say he's like a nice wine not in that he's aging But even if you don't like whites you have to admit he's cool and he's refreshing. Yes. He's very refreshing Yeah, I would like to have Joe Flacco play a little bit. Maybe get the Colts to play What if Joe Flacco just like the last half of his or last three years of his career he just goes to random organizations and takes them to the playoffs that would that would rock are we gonna have a Andy Dalton Joe Flacco matchup at some point this season let

me look I do not think so that would have been awesome that would have been so good that would have been that basically like just we're just going in a time machine at that point that's an excuse for us to be like, see, we're not old. Yeah, Joe Flacco and Eddie Dalton still going at it. Yeah, throwback. Yeah, I was watching 2012. Russ was dressed out again. And he didn't he was not active wearing eye black. Yep. He wore the eye black on the sidelines today. Russ is just that that was the only thing I was happy for for Justin Fields is like he they Lost the game, but it was not his fault. So they didn't have to you know, like the Russ stuff doesn't start happening because I

Justin feels better than Russell Wilson. He is I think so I Maybe Russell Wilson you could make the argument better Pocket passer at this point, but even still we saw it in Denver. It wasn't, can't throw it over the middle of the field. I think Russ can't all the time either. So, so Russ, I'm making the case, I'm making the opposite case. He might get a chance to start at some point in the not so distant future just as a spark because I feel like the Steelers, they, they win games on defense. They win games by not turning the ball over. And if you have a real bad offense performance, you might just want to see what the offense

looks like with a different person there. And I don't think you could get a more different person than Russell Wilson compared to Justin Fields. So I think there's a chance he gets out there. And if he doesn't, he might end up being like just the best investment of all time for the Steelers where he's sounding for a million dollars and then you can trade him to a team for like a fourth round pick Remember he took a discount. He took a discount

Yeah, yeah, even though he's getting paid a ton of money from the Broncos And that was the best deal that was given to a selfless guy. Yeah team first team first guy Okay, let me do a quick ad before we get to the next game game time Football season is here. We can't wait to get out some games this fall with the help of game time. The official ticketing partner, Barstool Sports. Hank, can you look up Monday night in Detroit? You know how much we love game time now with their brand new game time picks feature. They're making it even easier to get to a game. Game time picks filters out the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats so

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Very suspect. I think Trey Henderson got hurt. He got a stinger. And Cam Taylor Britt gave up another touchdown where he looked like he was diving as Deontay Johnson scored a touchdown. Nice to see Deontay Johnson. He just needed Andy Dalton in his life. He's's doing some work yeah. The Bengals offense is elite. The Bengals defense is a problem. I have to think Lou Amorumo is going to figure it out. Does he

have the guys? Sometimes they say it's not X's and O's. It's not X's and O's. It's not X's and O's. It's Jimmy's and Joe's. They don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's right now. They're missing a lot of guys. They're missing a lot of Jimmy's and Joe's right now. They're missing a lot of guys They're missing a lot of Jimmy's and Joe's that Jamar chase touchdown was so fucking awesome He's he's they can't touch him. He threw the ball to his dad in the stands afterwards I like that you saw Brock Purdy saying hi mom afterwards more players need to be like hi dad. Yeah. Yeah agreed We're gonna say man. I have a question. Yeah, do you want the Bengals to be good because you think you want to like justify the win? No, I want the Bengals to be good because I like Joe burrow. They're you max might be wrong to something One of the I just wanted to ask that question is all no their defense is a problem. It's not I mean the

Panthers had 375 yards. They were 50% on third downs I did bang. It's I guess what we just what you could say for the Bengals being back is they, the first week, the concern was that Joe Burrows injury that weird, you know, video of him grabbing the water bottle. You're like, he might still be injured. T Higgins sitting out, Jamar chase it now, all that stuff. That was a concern. That is not a concern at all. The Bengals could probably out, like go toe to toes,

like outscoring shootouts with almost anyone. Their defense is not what the Bengals' defense has been in the past. Yeah, I just have to think that they'll get better at some point. You know, healthy? They'll get some guys back. I don't, the Panthers were the best medicine right now

for the Bengals. Yeah. So at least now they believe that they can win when they played against the Chiefs They played good enough to win that game too. Yeah, I think they'll be this is what we see all the time from the from the Bengals Those they start out slow September's a bad month and then they get hot Yeah, and I think that's what's gonna happen again now We should have known this game was over from the pregame because they broke the drum. They keep pounding draw Oh, no, and this time it was her per no. And this time it was- Surfer?

No, no, this time it was John Beeson. Oh. Last year, I thought the story sounded kind of familiar. They did it last year too. Mike Tolbert beat the drum, broke it, and they lost that game. If you break the keep pounding drum, you can't keep it. You have to stop pounding.

You have to literally stop pounding. Yeah. Yeah, so that was, we have we should known right then right then in there yeah but Andy Dalton I love the Andy Dalton tour where it's just watching him go out there and look good for a little bit again it makes us feel a little bit younger than we really are but that this is the perfect Andy Dalton game if you're the Carolina Panthers because you lose but you look competent while losing Dave Canales

you can tell like he's having even in a loss was having more fun being like I have a quarterback that is can actually do the things I need him to do which it's got to suck being Bryce Young. Bryce Young just should not even dress. Is he he was dressed today he's a backup quarterback. I'm sure he'd have to open right I didn't see him at all today. Yeah, well, it's hard. Yes, sir. I'm everyone guy Yeah, I'm a little guy. It's just but that'd be funny if they got him like a little like drawer Yeah, just tuck him in there. Yes. He's not to watch the game. Yeah, put a straight jacket on him You can just hang out

So Bengals back you say back. I I don't know if they're back yet, but I predict that they will be back This was it was a must win for the Bengals. I'm gonna wait till next week when they play the ravens To declare them back. They can okay. They're okay. I want to get ahead of they might not be back Okay, because one and four is tough. What? Yeah, I I see them crystal ball. Yeah, see them one and four Yeah So if they if they can beat the ravens, I think they're officially back because it softens up a little from there, but I right now I'm not gonna I'm not ready. They're half back. Mm-hmm. There are the Bengals back or did they play the Panthers? That's the question Fair, fair stat for me. Yeah, okay

next up Broncos 10 Jets 9 What a game what a game. What a game. So before we get to memes, I would like to say the Broncos defense looks very good and I know there was weather, but we have to put respect on the Broncos.

Patrick Shartan, who we did put respect on last week, is like one of the best cornerbacks, if not the best cornerback in the league. He had 60% of Garrett Wilson's snaps was against him and he Garrett Wilson had two catches for 22 yards the Broncos defense played very well in this game Bo Nicks let's just say this Bo Nicks threw a touchdown pass everyone's on the board let's go ball the starters are on the board he also had a first half of 7 for 15 for minus 7 yards that's's very very hard to do very very hard

He completed a pass that went past the line of scrimmage in the first half Weather might have had something to do with it I'd say probably more than likely it was just bone X being bone X that has something to do with it But they won maybe bone X is just a winner. Have we thought about that? Well, I was gonna say about okay stats are for losers big cat I have a maybe bone X just goes out there and he wins fucking football games I have a stat to back it up Okay, Bo Nicks is the first QB to win a game in which he averaged fewer than two point five yards per pass attempt

minimum 25 attempts Bo Nicks just made history Bo Nicks won a game in spite of bad quarterback play which was done by Bo Nicks Yeah, it's like Tim Tebow. He's T Bo Nix. Yeah. This is exactly what he used to do for the Broncos too. Credit to Bo Nix. Yeah. That's...

Overcoming yourself... Right. ...sometimes can be the hardest opponent of all. Bo Nix did the impossible. He won a game with Bo Nix as a quarterback. Yeah. It was... That first half was... I don't know how anybody watched that game. If you're a Jets fan that made the trip to the metal lands Nobody had a worse day than you

I don't think anyone had a worse so then a poor Jets fan Probably sat in traffic for an hour and a half you would say probably to get out to the metal lands. Yeah More yeah, you were you were rain you were in the rain in the cold in the wind You watched nine points from your offense and then you got rained on more, then you left, then you had to get into another, probably an Uber that you thought it was going to be decent size, and it was like a 2007 Toyota Prius, and you and your three friends were stuck together in the back seat, then you had to sit for another hour and a half in traffic as you were thinking about the loss, listen to post game radio, and make

your way back to New York City That's a that is an all-time bad after I would rather be in jail. I'd rather spend that time in jail Yeah, the four hours provided that are the ten hours. Yeah, provide that jail had a television with the quad box Yeah, and another television with another one. It's basically who had a worst day a Jets fan or Diddy Just a day just a worst day. They're trying to make, I saw a report, they're like, Diddy's in a jail that's like horrific. It's like, yeah dude, it's jail. It's jail, it's jail.

Like, do you want us to feel bad? But it's jail. Better than the Meadowlands. Yeah, this was a perfect, this was a perfect like commercial for football's the greatest game to watch on your couch Yep, it is the built to watch on your couch Going to games the tailgater is fun when the weather's okay, but everything else the couch is just perfect memes Your thoughts I guess you want questions first you want thoughts you want to go thoughts then we'll question other thoughts

We had nine days to prepare Yeah for a lot of days I guess you want questions first or you want thoughts? Why don't you go with thoughts, then we'll question. I'll go with thoughts. We had nine days to prepare for a team with a rookie quarterback, playing back-to-back away games, playing cross-country away games. And we laid an egg. Defense showed up. Robert Sulla, after the game, made sure to say the defense showed up.

Saying the offense didn't. Meanwhile, you're the head coach. and you're in charge of everything. Now memes he is a defensive head coach correct. Yes but that doesn't matter. You're the head coach. I would say would Aaron Rodgers be kind of in charge of the offense. I'm not even going to include Nathaniel Hackett here. Yes.

Nathaniel Hackett a problem. It feels like he might be a problem. Nice guy. I really nice guy. I had a great time on, on, uh, on pardon my take. Uh, he's really, really nice guy. He's a way better guy than he is football coach. He's a, yeah, as good as not even coach as he is better human being. It's a blowout. Nathaniel Hackett is not smart, but dude, he watches the gold member. Yeah, there's certain times like There was one moment in the game. It was second and one and then they just ran three pass plays in a row Well two pass plays and then in the wind and rain in the wind and rain and Rogers gets hurt

It's like how haven't you learned your lesson? Just run the ball put Braylon Allen in get the extra yardage get a field goal Get out of the game grimy win Credit to the Broncos defense, so they did a really good job of shutting down your running game Breeze Hall. What do you have? For like point for now. He wasn't great yards per carry like the Broncos defense deserves credit I'm putting some respect on the Broncos defense deserves credit I'm putting some respect on the Broncos they do but when Breeze Hall wasn't doing well They should have put Brown Allen in because he was doing well, and he's like he's 19 years old. He's fucking sick. Ah Here's a question for you. Are we at the question part? Yeah, okay, Hank

Will you please get a question ready for me as well? Do you think there's an issue? between coach and quarterback? Because there was a quote afterwards that Salah said that they need to dial back the cadence. And Aaron Rogers said, that's one way to do it. The other way is to hold them accountable. Thoughts? There might be a slight problem, but I don't think there's a problem. So when I was telling Big Ken earlier that that Caleb Williams should take that next step and just say like, fuck this guy's play calling. I don't have a single doubt in my mind that Aaron Rogers does that. Maybe,

maybe every single play. Yeah. Nathaniel Hackett might, they might not even plug in his headset That might be why it might get much dummy headset It might be why Aaron loves Nathaniel Hackett so much because he's like I will overrule this guy on every single play call and he Won't say shit. Yeah, they they could have they they're probably have a headset and if they know how it's on a headset with like he's just talking to no one and set with like he's just talking to no one and and they're like yeah go stand over there and call your game and they're like hey Aaron he's he still thinks he's talking to you you just call the game he's just got like Nao playing

in his headphones and he's out there like trying to call a game memes I have a question yeah yeah have the Jets posted the final score yet I don't believe so oh that's a no-no Back to back loss even the guy put the burrito up his ass Did he yeah, I'm I missed I saw it. It was very funny. I saw the picture. It was horrific How'd it go up there? He just basically like held it in his asshole And then he did and so he did that And then he did and so he did that

He took the picture. He had a mask on he had like a shirt on it was just his ass with a burrito up And then the very next tweet was oh fuck my wife found saw the picture I'm screwed and then later on in the night when Alabama was up whatever 20 nothing He said if Georgia comes back and wins this game. I'll do a face reveal and ruin my whole life oh my god and so he had a moment where he was like I've done it again back-to-back weeks it's all over shout out that guy for actually putting the burrito up his ass st. Phil Snyder Henry memes yeah after last week's big win against New England what percent chance did you think that you were gonna? possibly lose this game was

five 5% I also did that because I bet them Well even to the last quarter I I thought we were winning the entire time Yeah, and he lost to Bo Nicks missed a kick Yeah, but Bo Nicks remember Bo Nicks was such a winner that he won the game in spite to Bo Nix missed a kick. Yeah, but Bo Nix remember Bo Nix was is such a winner that he won the game In spite of Bo Nix. Yeah, that's hard to do Listen Bo Nix beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers the New York Jets and himself twice Yeah, and he's got four wins in the last two weeks. It's Bo Nix

Memes any other best quarterbacks in the league allegedly. Yeah Memes any other the best quarterbacks in the league allegedly yeah, yeah Oh, we're getting a legends going on Rogers look alright. I'm not talking about his play today Does he does he look healthy Dave our look healthy until? He looks our boss Dave has a theory that he's got a goofy helmet figure that out He does have a goofy helmet It's got the way that it's strapped in looks kind of awkward, but he looks like he looks gaunt He looks like he has scurvy like he's on some weird diet where he's not allowed to eat vitamin C Oh, you're saying not playing you're just saying I'm just saying general like he looks he looks a little scraggly looks skinny

Yeah, yeah, does he has them all of them? I don't know. You're he's your quarterback, buddy. No, he's fine. Sure Yeah, okay? Good to hear also memes Explain to these guys what you're telling me about the the taunting penalty ooh Did you guys see this no, but I'm already fired up hearing your tone of voice so Ronald Torbert's crew is the fucking worst NFL crew in the league sounds like a narc You know that you're a jet fan who's very mad about it

No, no, no, what you just got in Ronald Torbert It becomes let me start with Ronald Torbert when you know the guys face pop up on your screen You're gonna see him every five minutes for the rest of the game. Yeah, so the Jets are driving Oh, yeah, I know Ronald Torbert. Yep, the Jets are driving. I see there's the last inside of the 20 We're watching it now. He does a casual point point The ref runs over to Ronald Torbert and said and does this double points double points like he was just shooting guns into the air 15 yard penalty all the way back Also, this TV is not on. I don't know if you thought the TV wait. Can we see it?

Yeah, can you turn that on? I want to see the double point. I just searched Ronald Torber to see what he looks like and one of the first tweets I saw was per TMZ NFL official Ronald Torber is dating a list actress Margot Robbie. So good for him. Wait, that's gotta be Joe Yeah, no, it's big time. Okay Okay, it's very funny. It's a very funny joke to treat. Yes, what he looks he's he's basically Mike Tariqa. He looks like yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm familiar with all torps. He's dating Margot Robbie. Yeah. So what happened was the receiver did the double guns after he tossed the ball up and then the side judge or whatever ran up to Torbert and was like Torbert he did the double guns. You can't do the double guns. Yeah, we're in the greater New York area. You have to, you can't do that. Yeah. This has been a

Plexico for less than that. Uh, so it was, it was a bad taunting penalty to call and we've been in, we've been an anti anti taunting podcast for quite some time. Anti anti. Yeah. We think players should be able to taunt. I've got two solutions for it. Two solutions. Cause we're, we gotta be proactive. We can't just complain about it. Solution number one is whenever the referee announces a taunting penalty, everybody in the stands, even if it's in favor of your team has to boo like it's Roger Goodell opening up the draft. Yep. Everybody just boo the ref, make them feel ashamed. Second way to do it is if coaches start declining

taunting penalties, start declining, the taunting penalty, a gentleman's rule, a gentleman's rule. Y'all do it together. If it's a soft ass bitch ass taunt, decline the penalty and say no thanks. We'll strap it up like men. I fucking love that. Yeah. Yeah. You, you basically it's mutual. It's mutual combat. you show up Before the game the coin flip you shake your shake hands and you either agree to all the declining of all Taunting penalties or not. Yeah, I think Dan Campbell would be the first to sign up for this God that would rock because people would just be taunting left and right and the game would be more fun. Yep, and But you know, someone will break the truce if you really need it if you really needed 15 yards Yeah, you would definitely break it, but then they should be shunned. Yeah

Absolutely, they should be taking out the coaches. Yeah beat the fuck out of him before the coaches picture So they look like that MMA fighter. Yeah meme So what's your panic level because this was a this was supposed to be a win. It's supposed to be when Panic still not high just unless we play in rain. Okay, so no rain for the rest of the year No, but I also said that about Jack Wilson. So it's just like it's just the same Yeah, same we're kind of in the same spot. We just need perfect weather conditions. No, I don't why don't they have a dome? Why don't you have a dome should it's a swampy area and it's also like you don't have That's not a remarkable stadium that has any type of

There's nothing special. It's yeah, it's it's new and it's also like void of any type of character Yeah, no, I'm with you. They should get a dome and they should get grass and then just maintain it. Okay, I'm with you You play the Vikings who Sam Darnold revenge game? He already had that. But this one's in London. Now, but he already had that. But it's the London Sam Darnold revenge game. It's technically a short week.

Yes, it is. Yeah, Robert said last sucks at preparing more than seven days. Does it rain in England a lot? It does. Are they in England a lot? It does. Are they playing on a dome? It's a shorter week for the Vikings. But we play better on a shorter week. But they're even shorter.

How do they play on a shorter week? Because they have to travel farther. No, I'm saying how do they play? Oh, I don't know. But they're also one time zone behind you. Yeah, it's a shorter week for them. It's even shorter. Yeah, they have to go an extra hour basically a flight or two hours of flight We're not a time zone podcast. No, we've never been it is technically one hour shorter in the time zones

There there an hour apart it's the most East Coast game that you can possibly play but isn't all time the same Now you're freaking me out. Oh man, that was heavy. That's some Aaron Rodgers shit right there. What the hell just happened? No man, they have to, so memes, let's just say hypothetically it was the same distance from London, right, New York and Minneapolis.

Yep. Minneapolis would have to leave one hour earlier on the clock than the Jets would. Correct. That day that they leave for travel, that's gonna be one hour earlier on the clock than the jets would correct that day that they leave for travel that's gonna be one hour they left at the exact same time the jets would leave at 1 p.m. and the Vikings were technically leave at 12 or noon yep and then they would get there at the same time no no it would still take longer for the Viking well one out and they

would have to leave earlier so they're on a shorter week They have to leave home before you do Thank you, I think you're right. Yeah, I know I'm right. So there goes your short week, buddy You actually get the we still got a long short week But it's not you're on a long week compared to the Vikings Get that extra hour We got we got we got a back in the matrix yeah have some Get that extra hour. We got him back. We got him back. We got him back. You're in the matrix right now.

Yeah, have some. How you like that now? They don't like it. Yeah, no one does. So, does Salok, he sucks at coaching in the rain? Or your quarterback sucks at playing in the rain? No, it's the Jets suck in the rain. Overall.

Yeah, the Jets suck in the rain. We had two good games in the rain rain one against the Texans last year Smoked them and then one against the Bears, but your quarterback was Was it Beijing? No, is it three years ago Mike? Oh, oh McCown fuck no was it? Oh, no, we started Shit, who did we start in that game what year was it was it semen yeah might have been yeah I think it was no is Trevor Simeon I think it was Trevor Simeon stud that was bad yeah Trevor Simeon started that yeah but those are the only two good chess games like last

year we played the Giants and barely won. It's just bad. Okay. You can't play in the rain. Salah needs to wear a hat in the rain. Okay. The shiny bald head is distracting. Yeah.

He has to feel every single raindrop all over his head. He also needs to just show...you know what? Get...is gold member Mike Myers? Yep. Is it awesome powers? Yep. Just get him stuck in the bowels of MetLife with a car going back and forth. That's not what you need to do with Nathaniel Hackett before the game. That's that's like, Hey, can you park my golf cart real quick? And then right before kickoff, like, Hey, just put that over there and he'll just get stuck because it's going gonna be an issue for Nathaniel Hackett in England having to listen to all those accents

He'll just think it's hilarious. Yeah, you like this. Oh this entire country is like like gold member He's gonna be think he's living in the movie. Yep. There's a problem the year when the coach gets stuck. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah brick ma Hot ice is hot Heat up the ice. All right. Next. Why don't you keep the mic on over there? Box 33, Eagle 16.

Maxi? Yep. So, Eagles are bad. Right now. No, they're bad. Oh, whoa. So I bet the box right before kickoff, because I saw the stat that Lane Johnson was out and since 2013 the Eagles are 97-59-1 when he plays which is 62% winning percentage and

now without him they are 14-24. That's significant. That's pretty crazy that it is it's like 40% of winning percentage when Lane Johnson on the field verse 20s also doesn't help when you're only two receivers on the roster or also out yeah and I thought for a second we have no receivers in the roster you have more receivers on that you have I'll name one Britain Covey Britain Covey IR now, I'll name one. Britain Covey. Britain Covey. I R. Okay. I'll name another one. Uh, Jahan Dotson. Not, not good. Not a receiver. Not a worthy one. Okay. How much

would you give up in a trade form? Hypothetically, if you were to, what do you think it's worth? A lot less than a third rounder. So, uh, what about Dallas Goddard? He's good. Yeah. So you had that who else? Take one Barkley got 12 touches. Okay, wait 12 catches touches Touches so including his rushing attempts in the whole game, correct. He got 12 touches. That is correct You want me to say it again? Yeah, did you hear Sir Yanni's explanation for why they didn't get more involved earlier? I don't want to hear anything from him. Okay. I want to would you like to hear it? Yeah, I'd like to hear so a reporter asked him how come he wasn't more involved in the opening three series of the game I think he got two touches maybe on the first three drives

That's more receivers than that's more of the receivers than they have on the active roster. Yeah, that's a good point, Hank. So Sirianni said, well, in those drives, if you look at them, we got to third down on all of them and went three and out. So on third down, we weren't going to run the ball. So really, it's just two plays per possession that we weren't getting the ball at. So you have to bear that in mind and take three of those plays

out. And now you're only stuck with nine plays. Or I guess that'd be six plays to get him the ball and they got him the ball a third of the time. So that was pretty good. Oh, that's a good answer. But maybe if you got him the ball more, maybe then you wouldn't have been in third and last.

Stuck in that. Yeah. Max, you guys have John Ross? Yes. I didn't know he was still in the NFL. He was in the practice squad called up. He's he was still in the NFL in the practice squad he's a fastest guy in the world also I think he wears 37 is that the slowest number 38 but he's not the slow that's actually smart by him because he's so fast and he

wears a slow number people will be deceived that's genius no yeah I agree I agree like if you were number one or 11, yeah, dude He's if I remember John Ross when he got drafted I was just like this guy's gonna be a game changer. He's so fast He's gonna end up on the Chiefs and then we'll look like morons. Yeah, he will he you probably will trade him to chiefs He'll be incredible John Ross had a catch Yeah, I don't know Yeah, I don't know. Were there any positive things about today?

No. Okay. What about that? What about the blocked extra point? You guys returned for two points. Sick. I mean the game was over in a second. It was also like as soon as they went down, they didn't have the guys to go back. Yeah, if

It's tough. It's tough. I'm doing yeah, Baker Mayfield nice bounce back from his game last week and The bucks Baker was incredible. Yeah. Yeah, like he he had a bad game against the the Broncos and He bounced back and the Bucks look like they're still the class of the NFC South. I think there's a chance that Siriano doesn't make it through the Bible. Whoa, no. Is he sick? No. Oh. There's two guys out there.

I got one. There's two guys out there. It should be Vraebs. Dominik. Belichick. Vraebs. Or Belichick. That both would kill Hank.

Vraebs would be that both would kill him rave raves would kill raves would kick the shit out of people if he was the coach yes Eagles variable would be awesome you want to lead her a man wait but you're not gonna hire an interim yeah why not yeah I guess why not you're right you're right all right so you're really over you're really down on a two and two team with a lot of injuries like the injuries are gonna get fixed They I they did not show up in the slightest today. They had no interest of being on the field it was too hot and then there's

There's a problem. There's problem between coach and quarterback there's problem between coach and player and The whenever the coach gets behind a microphone, he sounds like a fucking idiot just like me but I'm not the coach of the fucking Eagles. That's true. And Darius Slay is a fucking asshole. Oh yeah. So tell us this story because we missed this.

I wanted, I want you to tell me what happened with Darius Slay. He got burned. Darius Slay, bad game today. Yeah. Very bad game. And then what do you do? After the game goes to Twitter almost immediately X 150 past breakups and counting 28 picks and counting six time Pro Bowl all pro when you talk bad about me

don't forget to mention the greatness of me too. Oh mention his greatness and then he take notes. Guys what he got roasted and then went private Seriously be be a man like everyone else and don't even tweet any that just do a screenshot of the man in the arena speech Yeah, shut up all the haters Hank. You need to do that when you can't dunk you be like, I'm gonna don't know You know producer for number one sports podcast for the last eight plus years Road on the float with, with the coach. Uh, keep her the lighthouse. Keep it a lighthouse. I didn't look that bad. Bald didn't look that bad. Bald. That's actually, that might be number one. Yeah. Remember my lottery ball winner. Yeah. What is the X on the new studio?

What do you say? What is it? What's the last line of it? Remember my, when you come at me, remember my greatness mentioned my greatness as well. That's such a loser thing to do. You can't do that Yeah, and then he went private. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, Philly got when people criticize me They don't also talk about how great I when you talk bad about me Don't forget don't forget to mention the greatness of me too. Well, that wouldn't be talking bad about him, correct forget to mention the greatness of me too. Well that wouldn't be talking bad about him. Correct. Bucks I do think are the class of the NFC South. I think they're very good. It was good to see Baker bounce back because I feel like with these quarterbacks and Baker's had extended periods but like a Sam Darnold Baker I think is better than Sam. But if they

have one bad game I'm always worried that it's going back into a pumpkin. Yep. You know? Yeah. No, no, I hear you. Did they figure him out? Yeah.

So I just get nervous so that it was good to see Baker have, have a good bounce back game. I think it's a little bit different with Baker because he had success. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was not the same. Yeah. Uh, we also had Tom Brady was just unloading the clip with stories today.

Uh, he said that the bears were a secret team for him in 2020 I remember that that was floated it might have been just Mike Florio said it To bother me and to get me a little excited, but boy who cried go. Yeah, he dropped that I don't remember talking about it that much like I obviously there was you know, he was gonna go somewhere else But I don't remember talking about it that much like I obviously there was you know he was gonna go somewhere else But I don't remember the Bears being a serious like I feel like we would have had more serious conversations that were true I think it was just like a dark horse team that was mentioned a few times He took his his free agency tour kind of under wraps if I remember because he had that one see there was like secret meetings Going on with the Dolphins and that whole thing blew up and then there were some other teams who was like oh

He might go to this team, but this is the first I remember Hearing like concrete Tom thought about going to the Bears he would have hated it because that was I mean that was 2020 I actually think we might have gone to the was that the year they extended the playoffs When they made it made 17 there was kovat, right? Yeah, I want to say Tom Brady won the Super Bowl We went to the I think that was a game that there's lots of the Saints There was a high necky high necky covered against the Bucks. I think that was MVP year Was it I think that was Mitch winning the MVP That sounds right. I

Think it might have been so what would you rather have so they so well, I mean first ever I guess EP Well, I guess my point is like that it wasn't crazy. It sounds crazy be like oh, he would have gone to the Bears but the Bears that year were a Playoff team with mr. Miski. Yeah. Yeah, I'm right. It was the that was the MVP the year Do you think they would have a little for you? when he kicked yeah You think there would have been better with time I think they would have probably been better with Tom Brady. They might have so the big question was answered today

Is that's are the Bucs having more fun this year? Yes, I'm the other one who's yours ago Yeah, so there was a quote I don't ever remember talking about this on this show, but apparently Baker said on the Casa de Club podcast The building was a little different house of club Casa de Club podcast. The building was a little different house of club. House of club. Did you just did you hit the SAP button by accident? No, it says on this on this name. Oh, I was translating. Oh, you didn't know you hit the SAP, the house of club. The building was a little bit different with Tom and

they're obviously playing wise, Tom is different. He had everybody dialed in high strung environment. So I think everybody was pretty stressed out. They wanted me to come in be myself bring the joy back to football for guys who weren't having as much fun. And then Tom Brady said today on the broadcast, I thought stressful was not having Super Bowl rings. There was a mindset of a champion that I took to work every day. This wasn't daycare. If I wanted to have fun. I was gonna go to Disneyland with my kids. Mm-hmm So Adam, would you rather have fun or win a Super Bowl?

I'd say this is the old Lane Johnson when we got him in trouble Yeah, that's true. And we basically put words in his mouth is Tom Brady not fun. No Lane Johnson said that no We led him to say that we definitely did. I remember we were we basically put it in his mouth. Yeah. Put it on his throat. We put it in his mouth. Tom, I don't put it in Lane Johnson's mouth. I think Tom Brady might not be a fun hang. But he wins. But he wins. And is that fun? Yes. Yeah, he's just like the finance version. Like we don't have fun here. We make bank. Yeah. Having fun. Having fun is actually for losers. Yeah. That might be a that might be true. It it kind of is winning is more is the most fun you can have.

Right? Yeah, it's the most fun you can have while having no other fun. Right? You when when you win. That's the peak of fun. What it takes to get to winning. Not that part sucks. I actually think losers have way more fun than winners Yeah, they just hang out But then if you lose too much then that then you're not having any fun on that side, too The key is to be an unaware loser Yeah, cuz then your life is just awesome all the time to think you're a winner Yeah, you just lose and you're like well

I I don't care like maybe if you just do a podcast and you get on this podcast all the time and you talk a lot Of shit about people that have accomplished a lot in their chosen field of podcast and you get on this podcast all the time and you talk a lot of shit about People that have accomplished a lot in their chosen field of athletics and you make fun of them You're a loser, but you're unaware that you're losers. You would probably have a lot of fun doing right? I have a lot of fun hypothetically Okay, so max season's over We I mean we can make a change.

Oh, so with Nick Sirianni season is over. Current mindset is that. Yeah. And John is addicted to turning the ball over. Oh no. Are we about to have this conversation? Let's wait. Let's wait.

Let's wait till Lane Johnson comes back and AJ Brown. I think because I don't want to have this conversation that we've been dancing around for a while. I think AJ Brown is going to make a big difference. It sounds like you're having the conversation in your head though. Let's wait. But are you we're not going to have this conversation. Has the conversation occurred in your head? Yes. Okay, that's bad. Who's winning the first time? Is it angry Max? Or is it what? I'm not asking the question. Is it, is angry Max winning the conversation or is cool headed rational Max? I think angry Max. Angry Max is angry. Tough to argue with. Always controls this brain. Do you think depending on what you eat, it goes like if you eat a salad it goes to calm max view to meatball Goes to angry max. I don't know the more Italian eat the angrier your angry brain gets like like I'm well fed now Max thank you. Good max also congratulations to max. He completed his wedding finale this weekend Thank you five wedding four weddings in five weeks.

Gauntlet. Congrats, Max. I am, I'm fighting for my life right now. Yeah, I can tell. You did it though. I can tell. It's an impressive stretch. Here's some good news for you, Max.

You have the buy. That's good. Making any changes over the buy? Maybe get healthier. After that, the Browns after that the Giants after that the Bengals and after that the Jaguars Oh Is that even a thing where teams bring in coaches from the outside in the middle of no no No, so why are you even floating that out there? Why not?

Because it's not realistic Why are you even floating that out there? Why not? Because it's not realistic. Why are you talking about an interim coach? No, he's throwing out Belichick and Vrabel, but that would be unprecedented. Has that ever happened? I don't think so. So early.

You hired just an interim coach for hire? Coach O would be great at that job. Yeah. Yeah. He's not doing anything. All right, a boy can dream. A boy can dream. Yeah.

Well, you said that that's your solution. How do we turn the season around? Let's do something that's your solution like how do we fix turn the season? Around let's do something that's never been done in the history of correct sport That's a bad spot to be in it's a really bad spot to be in they look horrible today Yeah, it's just bad vibes the vibe the vibes haven't been good in a year. Well. It's the booing. It's everything It's booing against everything you're right. Hey Phillies That's gonna end. Why why? What is wrong? I don't know I I also got bad vibes for that. Why what what what I'm just a little

Go ahead you're almost there. No no no no no no I never finished the thought we have more food You got a playoff run coming up. You can't think losing dude finish the thought We got to think winning. I'm scared Rangers Suarez all of a sudden sucks. Oh no I'm so yeah Max I just looked this up here in 1978 the San Diego Chargers head coach Tommy Perot throw resigned four weeks into the season and the Chargers got Don Coriel Oh from the Cardinals. Yeah, shut up Hank In your face on Coriel

Somebody said this I don't I didn't see with my own two eyes so I might be spreading fake news here Did Big Dom participate in the postgame coaches handshake? I Don't know that would be funny if he stick around if Nick Sirianni's been emasculated so much That Big Dom like holds the back of Nick Sirianni's hand. Yeah, and they shake it together. Yeah, let me bring my consignor I want to make sure that this man doesn't break your hand. I have to protect you at all costs. Okay, before we do the last five games, PFT, you want to do a couple ads? Yes, before we get back to the NFL,

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Yeah, yeah, like he hadn't thought about that at all. There was another part of his post-game press conference that stood out and I think a lot of people didn't pick up on it, but if you're Jaguars fan, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about. Doug Peterson has not said publicly that Press Taylor is the play caller. He's their offensive coordinator.

Doug Peterson's in charge of the offense. He's called a lot of plays earlier in his career. And people were speculating that maybe he was calling the plays now for Jacksonville. He said in the press conference, just out of nowhere, he goes, press Taylor called a great game today. Number one, I don't think press Taylor called a great game today.

But he threw that out there. And then right after that, he said, listen, if you're going to point fingers, point fingers at me. So what Doug Peterson just did was throw his offensive coordinator under the bus very subtly by letting people know that it's Pres Taylor that's calling these plays. So Shad, if you're watching this press conference, if you need to ask somebody, I'm not calling the plays right now. It was like a little bat signal. Yeah. That's kind of shitty. Yeah. Also was like, they gotta, they gotta make plays. Yeah. That's throwing it back on the players. That part, if he was not intending to throw his offense career under the bus, which he might not have been, maybe he was.

But if he was intending to do that, he did a nice subtle job of doing it if he didn't then you can still say well Then right after that you said that our players need to go out and execute because we have a great game now Trevor I don't think played poorly today. He had like a couple of throws that one deep one That was I don't know who it was was wide Wide open you could definitely say that oh my god missed two touchdown passes Yeah, that was bad, but he also made some really good throws today He needs to cut it out with the spin moves to nowhere. Yeah spin moves to know we're always always bad I don't understand so the Jaguars did a pretty good job of running the ball today

And then when they got the ball back or sorry they got the ball with like three three fifty ish left in the game up up three they decided to run the ball on first down and then pass pass both in completions kicked it back to the Texans with more than enough time to for CJ Stroud with timeouts in his back pocket, go on a game winning drive. I don't care if you want to say, well we gotta stay aggressive, we gotta stay aggressive.

In that situation, under four minutes, you have to try to give, if you're gonna give the ball back, it has to be with as little amount of time as possible. And was ATN hurt today? Did he get injured early on? I don't know. We're going back and forth. I do not recall. We're watching the game in the PMT studio

I do not recall couldn't focus on all of them at the same time. I do not Back I think yeah, I thought I heard that he got hurt But because everybody was like why the fuck isn't a TN running this football yeah, I mean that was just a I don't know why they weren't running there and Trying to burn clock and then CJ shroud happened and I have a question for you PFT. Is Nico Collins a top three wide receiver? Because it feels like he is.

He's awesome. He's so good. They see a shroud watching this game. Like it was basically like anytime they get in trouble, just hit the Nico Collins button. Yeah, they got and just he'll make a big fucking play for you. The Texans have some serious weapons It's like them and the Vikings that have the two best weapons. I'd like to see those teams play Yeah, better be a shootout. Yeah but they're

Unless One team fumbles. That's true. It changes the whole code that's over the game. I would be against the 49ers So CJ Stroud is just he's he's entering that conversation where it's like if you're within one possession at the end of the game, CJ will figure out a way to get it done. Yes. I read something interesting about him this week actually. Did you know that he moved his barber to Houston? He had a barber.

Power move. He had a barber, I think he met him at Ohio State and they became good friends and then he gets drafted obviously by the Texans. And then he flew his barber out a couple times a month, got him some nice haircuts. And then he was like, you know what? Fuck it. Why don't you just move down to Houston? I love that. That's such a good move. I love that.

Because having a good barber is like a good therapist. Yeah, absolutely. Especially maybe a little scalp massage. Wow, we shouldn't do that with Texans. Yeah, watch out. Yeah, the last therapist that got flown out there didn't. Yeah, especially maybe a little scalp massage there. Wow, we shouldn't do that with Texas. Yeah, watch out Yeah, the last therapist that got paid and yeah, so kindly but uh, yes He just showed is in that category of if you made a list of guys with the ball in their hands with two minutes Left and need a touchdown. He's top five yeah of

Yeah, I feel confident just the poise he has is just always insane of, yeah, I feel confident. Just the poise he has is just always insane. Yeah, but Nico Collins is, sometimes we forget about Nico Collins. I don't. He gets lost. I have him on all my fans teams, not to brag. So I don't.

But he's really good. He's really fucking good. And it really does feel like anytime they get in a jam, they just hit that button. This just is a vibes thing, but there might be a stat to back it up. Does Laramie Tunsell going for the record for flags this year? He might be, but counterpoint. Yeah,

I have another question for you big guy to answer this question. Do you remember the name of the other first overall pick who's on the Jacksonville Jaguars from, I believe 2022? I think Josh shall on no he might be the most untalked about first overall pick in the NFL oh you know Josh Allen was not the it's the guy from Georgia Joshua Hines Allen yeah he was drafted I think the same spot that other Josh Allen was no it's from George guy from Georgia from Georgia Trayvon yeah I've on Walker Walker. People don't remember they have that guy as a first overall

pick too. They do. And he might be a holding merchant. Yeah. Because he got, I think it was three holding penalties that he got against Tunsel today. Tunsel is trying to break the record. Yeah. I really feel it. I don't know if there's a stat to look it up, but you know, he had the triple, the triple, uh, false Mm-hmm. I think you had a couple more this week I kind of like it like I I'll say right now Laramie Tunsell. I support your Aspirations to break the record for most flags in a season and also if you had a quarterback that was getting hit a lot Wouldn't you rather have your offensive lineman just hold the guy and prevent him from getting clobbered? Yes, also also if you're Laramie Tunsil and you want maybe the Google results to not be the the bong mask

Breaking the record for most Penalties in a season would be pretty good. That's true because I think if you Google Laramie Tunsil holding Yeah, doesn't auto populate to holding a gas mask mask bomb. Yeah. Yep. Okay. It's not even on the list anymore. There you go. So good job, Larry Tunsel. He's gonna break the record. I gotta find out how many he actually has. I gotta look this up real quick. Larry Tunsel. They should give that should be a defensive stat too. What if you draw an offensive holding? Yeah, I'd agree. It should be half a sack. Yep. Penalties I think is what tonsil had in that bond.

It's kind of funny. I just love his name. It is fun to say you Laramie tonsil. I'm seeing right here says 15 flags so far this year. That's crazy. See, I would not mind that if I was CJ Stroud. Oh no 10, 10 penalties through four games for Laramie Tunsel now. That's awesome. I think he's going for it. Go for it. I want that most penalties by any player through week three since 2000. I love that. Yes.

It does feel like it needs to be like a social Maguire thing. Yeah. Where like we, we do, we do a flag watch. Yeah, who else would be up there for holding pin? I don't know, but I want Laramie Tunsel. I want a flag watch I want them to break into a like playoff baseball to game to just be like and we break in live to Houston Laramie Tunsel with another hold they just show the replay the hold then they get out of there. Yeah red zone for holding Every every drop back. I was talking to Arian the other day and he was telling me about what a deep part of the Texans culture Andre Johnson still is to this day. Do you know what his title

is? No, still is director of vibes. He's working for the Texans. His title is being Andre Johnson. Oh, so Arian saw him at a game one time. He was like, Hey, good to see you. He's wearing the shirt and everything. The Texans polo shirt. He's like, what are you doing for the team? He goes, I'm just being me. They just pay Andre Johnson to hang out and just be himself.

I love it. Which is important to do. I think if you have a guy like him that played for a bunch of shitty quarterbacks and was still really, really good, just keep that guy in the building. Yeah, they did. Uh, Jerry Reinsworth did it with Scottie Pippen where he just made him like ambassador to basketball. There you go. Sorry about not paying you Scott. Yeah. Here sit on the sideline. Here's $50,000 a year to hang out.

Pretty much. Yeah. Much. Uh, okay. Next up commanders, 42 Cardinals, 14 PFT. Are the commanders just good? I think they might be good. I think so too. I think I might have a good fun team. I think they're good. and I think they're good at football. It's crazy to think about that now This I will get to some Jade and suck fest stuff in a second But I feel like the most impressive thing about the commanders today Two things actually one our defense our defense was pretty good Yeah, I would say that they were good today, which is crazy considering that if you asked me a week ago what I thought about their defense I'd say probably the worst in the league. I I feel like they're getting to a Dan Quinn

Competency level. Yes, like a baseline Dan Quinn, which is all I'm hoping for like they don't make mistakes I I never said anything beyond yawfs, but if we have a good defense if we have like 20th ranked defense I'm thinking a win in the off. So I'm thinking maybe maybe Vision a wiki I'm thinking maybe that team today look like they could be in a soup. I know I'm thinking if our if our defense is that was a I'm thinking if our defense is. That was a Suppy team. If our defense is 16th in the NFL,

right better as a defense than Dak Prescott is as quarterback, I would say that we could lose the NFC championship game. To who? Anybody. That's kind of our ceiling this year, I feel like, if our defense is just kind of, if it's average to a little bit above average. But I don't think that's gonna stick around

I think that's soupy in our offensive line has really turned a corner to which yeah Also another thing that I thought would be a weakness but our offensive line and a running game looked awesome today So is it soupy? No, I'm not thinking soupy He's a rookie quarterback and we have a lot of a lot of work to do with our roster But but he is he's different. Yeah, he's very good. He's an 82% completion percentage. Crazy. So, I have a couple... What's the opposite of insult stats? I don't know.

Incest stats, because I love that brother. Yeah, that works. Jaden Daniels, his completion percentage 82.1%. And that's through his first four games playing in the NFL. 82.1. That's the highest of any four game stretch in the regular season since the NFL merger. Wow.

Of all time. Second place, Peyton Manning in 2008, 81%. Third place, 2007, Tom Tom Brady 79.2% Elite company that's good. You suck good company to be in that's pretty sick He's completed at least 85% of his passes in two consecutive games He's the first quarterback in NFL history to have two consecutive games of at least 85% or higher Completion percentage the first quarterback. That's pretty sick It's it's sick. It's

it's weird. It is, it's weird being so happy with my team and I was thinking about it because I'm still getting tweets from people being like PFT I'm very it's so fun so cool to see you happy. I'm glad that you're happy watching football which I appreciate because I've had some pretty bad teams that I've rooted for. That I think might turn around in the next couple of weeks because people are going to get sick of me being happy pretty quick. No, I was saying to you before, I think it's just that if Jayden Daniels has a bad game, people will definitely be like, hey, you said that you would only trade Jayden Daniels for

Patrick Mahomes. They would say that. But I don't think they'd stop being happy for you. They would You said that you wouldn't trade You would only trade jayden daniels for Patrick Brahms And they would say that but I don't think they'd stop being happy for you They would just try to dunk on you for that. Maybe not what you shouldn't apologize for I won't apologize get excited I'm very happy my mom texted me during this game when she was watching and her text was just I want to have jayden Daniels over for dinner. Oh nice, so that's nice. We try to arrange that yeah, we'll see but no I'm not thinking soupy But today it was encouraging and also just having a fun team. It's it's wild. I don't know what's happened Yeah, it is very fun. Yeah, it was the it was my fun over today because I remember we talking about it that they They were responsible for our happiness in the afternoon. Yep, and it was yeah fun. You called the fun over

I called commanders money line back in August. Yeah, that's true. Oh yeah, you cashed your bet. I cashed my bet. Terrible line, but you cashed it. That's fine. That's fine. Max is, I think, already starting to not be so happy with me. Well, because Jalen Hurts is. He's having angry Max conversations about it. Yeah. Max?

I said that the... I was telling you that they're good. Commanders are first in the NFC East Correct. Yes, they were first in the NFC East last week That's all they are they've gone another week of being first the NFC East correct Are they them have they held the NFC East crown for the most weeks? I think so. Yeah Sure. Yeah. No, I think yeah. No Eagles had it week one. Right. Yeah. You want to get in Brazil and then what happened week two with you? They lost. But we won week

two. I think you held it for two weeks. I think you are still week one. Oh, damn. We got to get that stat. No, no. Sweet. Two because week two you beat it you beat a oh yeah You know I is true in the yeah, so you've had it for the most weeks. That's true. I got wow That's pretty huge, but at one point today. I told max that the Eagles should put Kenny pick it in not because Jalen was or Jaden now. I'm getting my jail my J's mixed up We're not talking about the Eagles right now. Not because Jaylen wasn't playing well, I just thought that you don't want to get him hurt in this game.

Yeah. And then Max flipped out and was like, you've been good for one week. Actually three now. Yeah, that was before that game. Three weeks. That was before that, Giants. The Cardinals offense is, it feels broken to me. They just forget about Marvin Harrison. Well, it's not even that

It's like they either have a drive that looks like they're the most explosive offense in the world Where James Connors running through people and then Callum Murray scrambles and hits a deep shot or three now It feels like there's nothing in between like they just they had two drives I think it was maybe their first drive and a drive in the third or fourth quarter where it looks like no one in the world could stop the Cardinals. Every other drive looks atrocious. Yeah. They, but when they were driving, it's like, this is the formula, stick with it. And nobody could guard Marvin Harrison jr. When they throw him the ball and then they just for, it's like for complete quarters quarters the Cardinals forget to pass the ball

Yes. Yes, it's uh The app PFT I think the commanders are I came right down. I was just like I think the commanders are good a good team It's not it's not a fluke cuz the Monday night game. You always had it in your back your head be like, alright We caught fire for one game. Yeah, that was cool But no, they're just a really good team Jayden Daniels makes every single moment of my life better I'm happier all the time because of them that makes sense and I don't want anything bad to happen to him that makes sense I want to say that I want to protect it because it's always in the back of my head The the pumpkin thing the stage coach turning into a pumpkin at midnight. That's always gonna be in the back of my head Yeah, don't let anything bad happen to him.'t he's awesome and I'm thinking Yof's win

I'm thinking maybe divisional wiki love it vision a visual week visual wiki also if you want to hate Jaden Daniels I have an easy way why you can do that I said during the game like hey Steven Che do you have any terrible nicknames for oh no like how he used to call Justin Fields just you know so credit to Steven Che he followed through on this assignment and terrible nicknames for Jayden Daniels like how he used to call Justin Fields justino. So credit to Stephen Che, he followed through on this assignment and sent me a list of nicknames that I can yell at the TV with this. Do you want to hear them?

Yes. This will make you hate Jayden Daniels. JD, kind of like Jay-Z in parentheses he says. Wouldn't JD more be like Jack Daniels? Yeah that's a good point. Or JD Vance. The J Danimal. Ooh.

Cinco de Daniels. Ooh. And then he just said any bomber plane that you know of could work. What? So if I want to call him like a B2 or a B1. Does not work at all. That could work. Yeah.

Also the warthog. I don't mind the warthog. The warthog's not bad. Warthog's pretty sick. the warthog. I don't mind the warthog the war dogs not bad looks pretty sick. The war dogs not bad war hog Anyways, I I'm happy all the time because of Jane Daniels. That's awesome. I'm happy. I'm happy you're happy Hank We like to talk about the Patriots surely 49ers 30 Patriots 13 We have the worst offensive line in the history of NFL Oh Said it defense played pretty good Our offensive line stinks it completely makes the game impossible

Yeah, sure is short drives Defenses on the field all game they get tired. It's impossible the like defense. I don't think is the problem, but When you have no offensive line, it's impossible the like defense I don't think is the problem but when you have no offensive line it's impossible to get anything going yeah and when drives go you know three and out you have two or three three and outs in the first quarter first half and it's like this game's over we can't we're not gonna score and it's over yeah and you're in a weird position where with an offensive line like that probably not the best idea to start your rookie quarterback, right? But he would be the only thing that would make it like half enjoyable to watch football, correct?

So you're you're you're in a real conundrum. Yeah now you you're just kind of resigning yourself to a season watching bad football Yeah, yeah, which was kind of I knew it was gonna be the case going into it We had the first week, you know Yeah, which was kind of I knew it was gonna be the case going into it. We had the first week, you know Fred Warner's pick was so fucking cool. Yeah, he jumped so high and then ran Not that fast but all the way down the field for a touchdown Also Brock Purdy at one point had nine completions for 199 yards. That's crazy. It was just Everyone was getting big plays. Do you see that catch the kiddle had? Yeah. Touchdown catch where he jumped over three people to haul it in.

Yeah. Joanne Jennings is just also a stud. Yeah. It's crazy. Somehow Joanne Jennings like don't don't really miss a beat. No, they're just yeah. I mean that was we we said it Friday. This was the get right game.

Yeah. Trent Williams had got very right. Yeah. Trent Williams was just getting right all day. Good news. If you're a Niners fan, Christian McCaffrey is expected to start running on hard ground soon. So I don't know what he's been training on sand what they have in Germany. But maybe sand, maybe doing like underwater treadmill like Blake did when he was recovering to Germany so far to go to the doctor

Yeah, like think about how much it sucks to go to the doctor and you gotta go all the way to Germany I just got my first physical in like six years I need to do that so bad doctors that live right down the street from me every place I've been yeah I need to do that. I need to get one or even their offices are right there, too Yeah, I feel like the Niners are gonna beat up the Cardinals next week so they're gonna get right on after their get right They're gonna get real right. They're gonna get so right hard, right? Yeah They'd be like Kate in the case race looking right. Mm-hmm Raiders

Browns wrapping up Raiders 20 Brown 16 the business decision game it worked us, wrapping up Raiders 20 Brown 16, the business decision game. It worked. Antonio Pierce had no Max Crosby, no Devontae Adams. He got crazy with it. They had like, they had, I think six dudes run the football. At one point there were six guys who got carries that, you know, they only have two running backs and they just did, they did kind of a mini kitchen kitchen sink where they just threw everything at it and Won this game and I don't know The Browns might be one of the biggest bummer teams out there right now They're big time like Amari Cooper wants out. Yeah, he does not want to be there anymore Who caught that long touch then that got called Amari Cooper. That was Cooper. Okay

So if you're a Browns fan, you have every right to complain about that Yeah, it was it might have been by the letter of the law a penalty a block in the back But it you it was not enough to throw a flag on my opinion and I don't know how Dachon Watson I look you take sacks I get it but like fourth down for the game on the line. Mm-hmm. You have to throw the ball somewhere You have to yep that pick was not his fault though. That was actually a pass that he threw that bounced off his receivers hand. But they just have it feels like they're offensive line issues with injuries and everything.

They're just maybe Nick Chubb fixes a lot of it. I don't know. He is fun to root for. At least you get that back if you're Browns. He is on his way back. If you can't get Jamis in the game, a fun guy to root for is Nick Chubb Yeah, the yeah, the flag was was bullshit on the Mario Cooper. So yeah, the Browns should have won this game But still they're bad vibes also credit to the Raiders I know the business decision thing but this they probably had the opposite of players only meeting this week Yeah, just like coaches you have to listen to all the coaches talk to you all the time all the time and It paid off for him

These are the kind of games that Antonio Pierce will have your team win Yeah, like the real I loved it. I give the Raiders a better than 50% chance in every 50-50 game. Mm-hmm Agreed. Do we have Johnny Fanta? Oh, yeah Fanta We say this we started pfc and I were sitting in here by ourselves and we started to play it and then we're like You know what? Let's save it so we can react with the people. This is becoming one of my favorite Sunday night traditions is just pulling up John Fanta's Twitter and seeing how he reacted to another heart breaking Brown's loss. This one is two minutes and 14 seconds. Okay, that's fine. I get that's listen, you give

me two hours of fans. I'll take it. Okay. I'm just letting you know okay Also this someone mess around with this TV. Oh, so it's not working like we You're just seeing yourself right? Yeah, we see ourselves. It's kind of nice, but you can't see no no can't see anything I just want to hear fans. Yeah, let's just hear okay. I'll use my imagination It looks like Fanta Doing a deep sad and sickened I'm ill For the Browns fans who spent their hard-earned money and ventured across America

to go watch that during Vegas one and a one in three team a team that comes out every Sunday and like clockwork can go right down the field on their opponent. The Cleveland Browns scored a touchdown on their opening drive. They then went and scored a field goal. From there, the offense produced nothing Not a thing It's not Sean Watson's fault on this Sunday It's not thought this was one of his best performances of Cleveland Brown 176 yards and I think that that Just makes you feel how much more painful about this loss because it's across the team

260 days ago this organization was in a playoff game and as we sit and talk right now they're one in three with losses in back-to-back weeks to the Giants and the Raiders. It still feels like they're trying to feel everything out on offense. There's more organization on the Las Vegas Strip at 3 a.m. on a Saturday than there is with this team in game offensively. They can't score. They can't score. They have failed to reach 20 points in a game. One and three, a lost season.

I'm sad and I'm sicking. And now you think to yourself, what are the consequences about to be for this organization as this year goes on? Because it doesn't feel like they have leadership. It feels like they're soul searching. Defense, you made a big effort in the fourth quarter. I can appreciate that.

But you're losing to Giants and Raiders. You were in the playoffs 260 days ago. I'm ready for playoff baseball. Ah. And New Sunday. I love it. Panta. I think he's pretty level headed.

That can't score! That can't score! He put on a guardian tat. Oh he did? Good. I love it. He feels bad for the fans who spent their hard earned dollar. I love that.

Nobody watches out for the fans dollar like Fanta. Also Vegas, like not a bad, you know, you went to Vegas for the weekend. Maybe a lot of those Browns fans made money. Yeah. They probably did. Yeah. That's a good point. Maybe a lot of those Browns fans made money. Yeah, they probably did. Yeah. That's a good point. Maybe they bet against the Browns.

Would have been a great point. Business decision game. Also, the Raiders did this without Max Crosby. Yeah, Max Crosby and Devontae Adams. Without Devontae Adams. So the Devontae Adams, that field, it felt like a weird announcement of his injury, right? It was back to back.

Anybody else get weird vibes about that? On Wednesday, I believe it was. They were just like, oh yeah, these two guys are out. The best two players on the Raiders. Yeah, and to win this game, that's the Antonio Pierce factor. Memes definitely thinks Devontae Adams getting treated to the Jets. 100% he thinks that's happening. Yes.

And for what? Son Reddick. Oh! I don't hate that. He thinks that's happening. Yes, and for what? son Redick oh I don't hate that yeah, the Raiders would have a dominant defensive line They'd have we would get a dominant receiver three great pass roll throw down was art. Oh He'd still throw talent lizard. Yeah. Well, no Devante Adams is just you know a Souped up Alan Lazard. It's still Roger's guy. You're right.

He still wouldn't throw it again. Would you trade Devontae Adams for Garrett Wilson? Nah. No? Nah. I mean, Devontae Adams is more accomplished. I think I would. Zolder.

I think I would. I think I was older. I think I would. I think I'd like the saying the contracts are equal. It's clear that Aaron Rodgers does not like Garrett Wilson. That is clear. Yeah. So get him a guy that he like. I think maybe the Raiders have thrown a pick if they traded Hassan Reddick. I would like that move for the for the Raiders to get that guy. Because they would essentially be building an entire defense out of just pissing off Patrick Mahomes.

Like, we're going to build our defense just to beat the fuck out of this one guy. It would work. I think you gotta try to get Devontae Adams go all in. You're in an all-in mindset, Memes. You're right. You're in an all-in mindset memes. You're right. You're right. We should just get him Get hasan out not out of the building just off the team. He's not in the building. Yeah He's never been in there. Yeah, he literally doesn't even know what you guys look like

Yeah, what do you got a question pft? I had a question for yeah, I had a question for memes Uh memes do do you still have super bowl aspirations?pirations no because Robert Sala can't prepare for more than two weeks, so we would just lose Bulls in a dome It's in a dome, but he has time to prepare and he can't prepare. It's too much time. It's too much time Yeah, much time if we won the AFC championship on a Sunday and played on Thursday we win Yeah, it's fair sure unless the other team that was coming from a different time zone All right last game chiefs chargers chiefs 17 chargers 10 The chiefs own the chargers. This is the the chargers never beaten the chiefs in LA

the Chiefs have beaten the Chargers 11 straight times on the road. That's pretty crazy. 11 straight. And Justin Herbert was, you know, he played, he gutted it out. No Joe Walt, no Rashaun Slater. It was pretty clear the Chargers offense was hampered, couldn't really do anything after the first quarter. And then we had obviously Patrick Holmes, a big story, Patrick Holmes threw an interception and then fell into Rashid Rice's knee and that looked bad. Yeah. So Rashid Rice is going to be out for a while.

Andy Reid said, doesn't look good. I don't know what the MRI is going to show, but probably nothing good for the Chiefs offense. And now they basically have Travis Kelsey and Xavier Worthy. Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelsey and Noah Gray. And Noah Gray and Carson Steele. Ah, Doghouse. Crocky J. Doghouse, Kareem Hunt. No yeah, Carson Steele's Doghouse.

He fumbled again. Oh yeah, that's Doghouse. So it was the second fumble in the last three games. He's Doghouse. Doghouse. What do alligators get put in when they fuck up? I't know pair of boots pair of boots yeah pair of boots in a pair of boots yeah it's p ryan and cream hunt until until he gets out of the doghouse so they got to figure out what they're gonna do a wide receiver though because of on day

Adams Devante Adams they would never she's never what if they got Chris Jones for Devante Adams I don't think they would do that probably not but Chris Jones was a beast today Yeah, he's a monster whatever whatever blocking scheme the charges dialed up to try to take care of him It was one-on-one. I think for the most part and he was just fucking their lives up at the end It's also pretty clear that these chiefs are just gonna win every game, but just it's gonna be ugly. Yeah Yeah, they were down 10 nothing very fast this game. Yeah. Oh, should we get this dial are the Chiefs frauds? They haven't beaten any really good teams Ravens

That's right. They beat the Ravens not fraud and the Bengals who you think are back But they weren't back when they played the Chiefs They were not dead though. He was those Bengals not these bangles. Uh, yeah, no the chiefs I think are just they know how to win territory Yeah, so speaking of which Pat from home's just had his hundredth career regular season start How many wins does he have out of a hundred? 82 Close I think oh I was gonna say I think Hanks right

78 that's pretty good pretty crazy 78 and 22 that's nice that is very nice for chiefs that's a lot a lot a lot of win he's so good if it's in one possession game the Chiefs are winning yeah that's just how it goes if they're down to any point the game he's winning I actually think I saw that stat that he's the only quarterback to have a winning record overall down I gotta find this stat it was crazy down 10 he's like 13 and 12 that's insane hold on I gotta find this stat because it was nuts here do it do an ad while I do it well I find it before we get back to this super stat from Patrick Mahomes brought to you by our great friends over at cars

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I think when losing by 10 and there was a stat where it was like Tom Brady was 20 and 60 when losing by 10s like he just it doesn't matter for him. Yeah, he's he's the best It's and he hasn't had statistically his best season no but that passes Xavier worthy was sick stats are for losers that passed his Xavier worthy was it was just backbreaking if you're a fan of any team but the Chiefs who might play the Chiefs in the playoffs yeah because you're like we can't we can't guard this guy can't deal that do you think oh 12 and he's 12 and oh in games where they go down by exactly 10 points.

That's crazy! Yeah. How is that possible? Because then he scores a touchdown, and then your defense, or your offense, then feels pressured, and then you punt the ball back, and then Harrison Bucker kicks a field goal from 60 yards. Also, that was Jim Nantz that, and he was wrong. Okay. But it sounds good.

18 and 14 overall and trailing by 10 plus. That's crazy. Mm hmm. Eight and five in games trailing by exactly 10 at some point. Also crazy. Yeah. So it doesn't matter. Can Rashid Rice go to Germany? They have the Autobahn over there. It is kind of like, if anyone else does that, it's not a big story. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes throws an interception and then takes out his best receiver in the same play. That's just Patrick Mahomes doing Patrick Mahomes things.

Mm hmm. You have to admit that. Is Patrick Mahomes stepping in when Goodell wouldn't? Yeah, he's just he's doing shit that no one could even think of. Yeah. Lay in the lumber. Yeah, he's just he's doing shit that no one could even think of yeah lumber um alright, so Should we talk real quick about Monday Night Football we had doubleheader and this one I'm very happy we have a doubleheader because if we had Titans Dolphins alone

Yeah, we would be in a world to hurt. Yep a world to hurt so Any thoughts I think the Lions are gonna be good. They're wearing their all black uniforms That's all I need to hear. Yep. I like the Lions and the other game I don't have a fucking clue who's gonna win that game. Mm-hmm Tyler Huntley if he plays maybe the Dolphins. Yeah scoop Scoot is that what they're called Snoop Snoop Snoop Huntley who who knows who like that game stinks? So interesting fact here Will Levis so he's had some crazy Jamis slash full blooded Josh Allen type turnovers where he makes like really insanely athletic turnovers and does it in only ways that like a good athlete could do it,

but they still look ridiculous. Uh, he's only had three turnover worthy plays this year. Oh, that's kind of weird. Isn't it? That is pretty. So we'll have us might not be what determines turnover. We're nerds, nerds that, that watch the game and then log it on a spreadsheet. I think a pro football focus, I think they're the ones that do it. Yeah. But it's like, it's like Sam Donald had a turnover worthy play when he threw it to the packer at the beginning of the game today, but he just dropped it. So like Hank, uh Hank Patrick Mahomes is actually really good

Historically at throwing turnover worthy plays that aren't turnovers and it might be because the defense is so surprised that Patrick Mahomes just threw them A possible interception. Yes, they freak out and they don't catch it But I get the feeling like Hank doesn't believe in any of that stuff. No stats kind of the same turnover lock. No doesn't happen All right, should we do, should we do who's back of the week? Let's see who's back of the week. Brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. College football is never short on intrigue, especially when they're iconic rivals. But you can add to the excitement on Saturdays.

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Celebrate responsive Coors Brewing Company golden in Colorado. Okay, Hank. Who's back a week? I was back the week is America USA. Yeah, we did it. Oh, do we win? We won one one Might have jinxed them on Friday after winning five Oh Thursday. They lost five on Friday tied it 5-0 Thursday they lost 5 on Friday. Tied it up, but then we dominated Saturday, dominated Sunday, won the President's Cup. We're the President's Cup champions. Hell yes. Can we say world champions?

No because we lost Ryder Cup. Yeah. We're half of the world champions. We've got to hold both cups. What is the President's Cup against? Who is it against internationals? So everybody except Europe Asia Asia Australia Canada and Mexico I

Think so South America. I don't think there was South America VJ representation was VJ there VJ show up VJ is not there because I'm the senior tour VJ Baller he practices so much. Did you see Max Homa's shot today? No. The eagle, the first one. Homa had an eagle on one. Fuck yes.

He was sick, yeah. That's our guy. That's what Max does. Then he was just slamming bruskies on the course afterwards. Hell yes. Guy's guy. So Ryder, not the Ryder Cup. Ryder Cup's next fall. Confirmed.

You confirmed it? Well yeah, I just kind of made up when I thought the President's Cup was. That was wrong. But I know for sure. And then the next year, 2026, Medina. President's Cup. Love that. Oh nice.

Now why did the president decide that we're going to go up against NFL Sunday for his cup? I don't know. Because I think they teed off at noon, right? Yeah, that was dumb. Yesterday was Saturday was nice because they they had it on in the morning and the afternoon. So just on all day. So and then I was hoping Sunday they were going to I was going to it was going to make

a wake up eight to 12 golf and then football but they didn't start till 1140 which was not the smartest I know there's no good way to fix this but it is kind of bizarre that golf has golf on at the exact times that people want to be out playing golf yeah I've always thought that it should be night golf yeah night golf like your built-in fan base and tiger tried to do that he did the didn't do a duel indoor in the desert I want to say base in tiger tried you that he did the didn't do a duel Indoor in the desert. I want to say duel in the desert Well, they have the golf league coming out soon duel in the desert What is that the one with live where they have the partnership in place? I know this is the like indoor thing

Yeah, and Rory's company. It's gonna be great sick Cool Hank golfs back. No America. Oh, yeah, I think I was right. Do you have any pride? What? Do you have any national pride? I don't care about beating Asia and what are who else?

Australia, Canada. No, we got to beat Europe. That's where the fucking those are the guys that we have bad blood with. I want to beat. I want to beat Rory there were some very rude spectators this week at the golf one guy said something disparaging about Scottie Scheffler's wife what and then Scottie Scheffler's cat he got up in his face had him kicked out I Stu finer will fuck that guy up he'll he will well first he'll lick your butthole then he'll lick a clit then he'll fuck you up. Yeah. Oh it was Monday night golf

They did Monday night golf from 99 to 2005 They tried to do this tiger did and they did a bunch of Monday night Like heads-up battles battle of bighorn Sounds like is it is that a game of Thrones? No, I was gonna say that's a war battle. Yeah Is it is that a game of Thrones? No, I was gonna say that's a battle. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah Cosmo big horn. Yeah, so why don't why don't they do night golf? But on a actual outside course and use like a glow-in-the-dark ball Yeah, they should cut tough to broadcast cosmic golf cosmic golf, but then you got to worry about if you're tiger Seamen on your pants. That's true. Black light. Black light show a lot. Yeah, okay PFT your who's back

My who's back the week I have a Monday reading for this as well Okay, dumb rule changes nice and this this fits into one and at football where we have the Miami Dolphins Who are not playing so well right now? I don't know if we talked about this on this show But this was a reddit post from two it looks like 273 days ago oh is this the tragedy yeah yeah do we talk about that on this I think we did but we could read it again I'll rehash a little bit should the Miami Dolphins kill five of their players yeah to trigger a disaster draft to improve

their roster yeah the NFL disaster draft is a contingency plan to be used when five or more players on a team have died or have been dismembered. In the draft, the team whose players died will be able to draft the amount of players from other teams equivalent to how many they had lost. Other teams, though, are only allowed to protect five players from being drafted, but many teams have good six men that are available. With the Dolphins having bad contracts on underperforming players such as Zavian Howard, but they could also just kill backups or practice squad players to fill out those five kills to get the disaster

draft. Also, according to Roger Goodell, the team would also get the first pick in next year's draft. Now this next draft class isn't crazy, so I could understand their hesitancy and being a repeat offender that is killing five players on your team could raise some eyebrows. But this could still greatly improve the Dolphins. What do you guys think and should any other teams do this and who should they kill? Listen? Bears could do it for some offensive linemen. There's the entire line. Yeah I mean, I love I love these fan loopholes that they find sass like like the

Former ring around Steph Curry guys. Yeah, the redded geniuses there is something and when your team is in a bad spot Sometimes you just need to start writing fan fiction for yourself. Yeah, I mean this obviously was probably put in place for like a airplane Tragedy or something. Yeah, but We ended up with just fans being like what if we just killed some of our players? I think it is interesting that they have a disaster draft Yeah, that's a contingency that they have in place my other who's back of the week is soupy it's soup season nice I had soup

twice this weekend hell yeah ramen and pho the weather is starting to change a little bit October's here I'm thinking soup yeah I'm just I'm just eating soup and I might go back to the soup and salad diet every day which is a great way to lose weight I love that eat soup or salad for every meal. I love that soup. So I'm in with you soup is delicious What's the weather tomorrow? Forecast is soup. Okay, I'm in I got to I got two whose backs one as well. We just need to We're gonna talk college football on Wednesday, but that Georgia Alabama game was so fucking good.

And Ryan Williams was literally in the matrix. Some of the moves he made were insane. His spin moves are the complete opposite of Trevor Lawrence's. I've never seen anyone that he had his back to the defenders. Like he was playing post-up pickup basketball in an SEC football game and still just did a quick move and then got out of it. Yeah credit to Georgia for battling back because a lot of teams would have quit at that point down to Alabama.

The dogs. The question has to be asked about DeBoer. Are the Crimson Tide better without Nick Saban? Was Nick Saban holding Alabama back? There were two gentlemen sitting on this couch to do our college football preview and they laughed at the idea that Alabama could be Really good with Jalen Jalen Milro and Kellen DeBors as his coach. I like Jalen Miller a lot. I he's grown on me a lot and he's dynamic. Yes You shouldn't be able to run sideways in an SEC football game and get away with it. And he does it multiple

times game because he's that fast. Yeah. Carson Beck tried to run sideways a couple of times. Didn't work. No, no. I have a theory on Carson Beck. I think the, I think the tattoos are too much for a quarterback. So I just not a quarterback's look. I care. You sound like Jerry Richardson, but I agree. It's not. If you have tattoos on your throwing arm, right? That tells me that you definitely took at least a few hours away from practice. Correct. Correct. All right. And then my other who's back is our Dingers only league because tomorrow we have the Mets Braves double header and the Mets Braves double header will be huge because it decides if they split they both go to the playoffs

so they should do a gentleman's agreement if one team wins both games the Diamondbacks will join that team who's won both games in the playoffs, but Right now our Dingers only is set in the fact that Max is so, so bad. He was 40 home, almost 40 home runs in last place. So Max will be pitching. We'll be doing a video. Max will be pitching, trying to get six outs against a college baseball team.

Reach out. Reach out, hit us up. The worst part for Max is that he's not going to have Max in center field for him. Correct. Because Max was the star of last year's correct and then second place is the catcher and right now Pft is in second place. He's up one on me But I have Marcel Azuna Playing in a doubleheader tomorrow, so we could tie or I could win you could win or I could lose

Or you could lose and it's all in a Zuna Yeah I would rather lose and what terrifies me. He's a much much better baseball player than he's a human being Yes, and I don't want to catch again Yeah, so I think that pitching is better than catching. Yeah big time Hank do you agree you seem to nod your head? Yeah, you're a catcher or a pitcher. You are a pitcher. Okay, nice Yeah, Max. Do you still bring the heat? No never did. Oh, okay. I like this Max. That's fine, though He's just subdued with like a he's just got a hangover sitting on top of his brain

And he's like you can see him get angry but his brain is working so slow that he can't fully get there yeah that you're you're you just hit the nail it's great I don't know it's like I wouldn't want it all the time but it's like a we almost have a lobotomized max yeah max are you gonna train for this no No. What? No, because you might have to throw a lot of pitches. That's fine. I've thrown a lot of pitches in my day. Okay. You got this, Max.

Yeah, it'll be... I'll probably, I mean, I'll get smoked, but it'll be fun. It'll be fun. Yeah. It doesn't sound like it's gonna be fun. No. It was fun last year though when Max was in centerfield Yeah, yeah there for a while yeah, all right, let's wrap up numbers five

11 40 you want to talk Carl Anthony towns quick. Oh, yeah So on Friday was reported that cat is gonna be traded to the Knicks in exchange for Dante and who Julius Randall Julius Randall yes, yeah, so Memes you're a fan of the Knicks Yes, was your initial reaction like mine which was basically that cat could not be a worse fit for this team which was basically that Kat could not be a worse fit for this team? My initial reaction was good. And then the follow-up tweet was Dante DiVincenzo was in it. And then I was immediately sad.

Yeah. But Dante DiVincenzo apparently was like the one, the out member of like, he wasn't, he was the fourth member of the Nova Knicks. Yeah. But he was just such a stud last year. It's such a solid piece. Why do you think Kat is a bad fit just because New York is just gonna eat him alive? I think Tibbs is gonna eat him alive. But he already had him as a coach. Yeah. That was more Jimmy Butler. I guess. I just don't see Kat fitting in with his Knicks team. Maybe I might be very wrong about this. I do think New York's gonna eat him alive.

I've had much worse sports takes in my life. No, I mean, I agree that it was weird when I saw it. But then I was reading there was some report that was like Dante DiVincenzo kind of wanted it because he was he was basically he had this incredible run last year at the end of the season. And then he was gonna get bench minutes. He wants to go be the guy and everyone's gonna be like Nova Knicks, Nova Knicks. He's like, I don't really want to do this anymore. Is that true? That's what I read that is like maybe maybe Nova teammates aren't as tight as some people let us to believe I think the Josh Hart Jalen Brunson and Dante also had like kind of beef with Josh Hart at some point. Yeah during his tenure at Nova so they said that they squashed it but Josh Hart

tenure at Nova. So they said that they squashed it but Josh Hart, Jim Brunson, Mikael, Bridges. That's the three. That's the Nova Knicks. Dante is on the outside. So when you say that New York is gonna eat him live what do you mean? I think Knicks fans are going, I mean they were really mean to Julius Randall and like if Kat... I just don't... MB dominates Kat. Oh is that true dominates cat? Oh, that's nice maxi That's nice. Yeah, the numbers are crazy. That's nice. What are the numbers? I Think it and beat is eight and two against him and he's averaging like 30 something a game and cats averages like 21 like it's not. Let me pull it up. That's nice. So memes your thoughts? After looking at the lineup I think we do match up well against the number one

team in the East which is the Celtics now and that's the goal of the trade you match up against the best team see how you fit and go from we should ask Hank first That was a bad job on my part Hank. How do you feel about this trade? I don't think it affects much I think New York's gonna eat cat alive to be cats point and I don't see them, you know Solid team great and bead will probably take his knees out as well And they're I'm not worried about them in the playoffs. They're eating the cats in New York City. Yes.

I mean, he's, Carlson of the Towns is a really good player and he does, I would say the spacing probably should work a little bit better for Jalen Brunson. You'd think, right memes? Yes, you would think. We currently also don't have S cuz MB you know twist his knee And be twisted his knee yeah, he twisters me you guys lost heart and son heart and signs on okay see yeah thunder Didn't be really twist someone's knee Contacting contacting

Alright good good call memes numbers 540 11 20 9 3 99 put pft and memes you ever gotten this 21 74. See everyone on Wednesday. Top of baseball. Love you guys. So So So So So So So Thanks for watching!