Pardon My Take - NFL Week 5, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bills Whomping, Are The Giants Good? Rams Have Problems And More

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

NFL Week 5. We start with Fastest 2 Minutes and then break down every game (00:02:53-00:09:19) Giants 27, Packers 22 (00:10:25-00:23:35) Chargers 30, Browns 28 (00:23:35-00:31:47) Titans 21, Commanders 17 (00:31:47-00:41:06) Saints 39, Seahawks 32 (00:41:06-00:48:07) Jets 40, Dolphins 17 (00:48:07-01:05:58) Patriots 29, Lions 0 (01:05:58-01:23:20) Bills 38, Steelers 3 (01:23:20-01:33:00) Vikings 29, Bears 22 (01:33:00-01:40:28) Bucs 21, Falcons 15 (01:40:28-01:47:51) Texans 13, Jaguars 6 (01:47:51-01:56:13:14) 49ers 37, Panthers 15 (01:56:13-02:04:33) Cowboys 22, Rams 15 (02:04:33-02:10:30) Eagles 20, Cardinals 17 (02:10:30-02:23:09) Football Guy of the Week (02:23:09-02:30:48) and who's back of the week (02:30:48-02:48:32)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Monday, October 10th, week five. We start in foggy London town. Would you care for a spot of ayahuasca in that tea, Governor? The Giants at four and one are opening up eager eyes as Mr. Brightwell scored on the Piccadilly special. Mercedes-Lewis Hamilton drove into the end zone, but it was the Giants' defense that came up with a big burst stoppin' on fourth down to end the game. Sherlock Holmes sidekick, Christian John Watson couldn't crack the case, and it may be jail

for both of them at this point. Giants 27, Packers 22. Huh? Huh? The G-Men? The G-Men. In Cleveland, where Austin Cup said, I'm not going to the left of the defense, I'm not going to the right of the defense, I'm going through the defense as he racked up $199

and two scores. On the other side of the ball, the Browns chubbed up with a kareem pie as their tandem scored three times, and at another, from when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's Amari. Speaking of Amari Cooper, J.C. Michael Jackson was bad, he's bad, he's really, really bad, and treated Amari Cooper like he was an elementary school playground, staying 500 feet away from him at all times. Chargers, 30, the Browns, 48.

In Minnesota, where Kirk Cousins started the game with 17 straight completions. That's a lot of completions that didn't go see Billy Eichner's movie on the opening weekend, boom, do better. Jalen Rager Mortis is back from the dead with a one yard touchdown as the Vikings were accused of necrophilia for fucking a dead team in the first half, but the Frisky Bears came back until they did it. Have you seen this? Have you heard this one teach?

They're calling him Amir Smith the clock because you can marset your watch to the wide receiver making a dumb play as he fumbled away the last drive of the game and got called for a block in the back on a Justin Fields touchdown run. The Vikings, 29, the Bears, 22. We go east to the Meadowlands where, in a touching tribute to my dear friend Chris Christie, Teddy George Washington Bridgewater was shut down for being wobbly, allegedly, boom. Braxton Crunch, oops, old barrios, cut up the roof of the dolphin's mouth as Breeze Hollin' Oats was a man-eater all afternoon as I got my mind jets three and two, I got

my mind jets three and two. You wouldn't think Robert Salah is a wrench girl with all the receipts he's holding. Jets, 40, the dolphin, 17. In Foxboro where it might sound crazy what I'm about to say, Bailey he's here so Bill can take a break. He's got a rocket arm that can throw to space with the air like I don't care baby by the way. Because I'm zappy.

Clap along if you feel like taking the top off the defense roof. Because I'm zappy. Clap along if you feel like Bailey is the truth. Because I'm zappy. Clap along if you love the QB from WKU. Because I'm zappy. Clap along if you feel like Bailey made the defense to do. Zappy, zappy, zappy, zappy, zappy.

The Patriots 29, the Lions, gooseay. In Duvall where Damien Franklin Pierce and Jefferson Davis Mills have a lot of Texans thinking the South will rise again as Houston had a very successful afternoon. The game was no piece of cake for Travis Intiman who's crumbled the ball away through his butter fingers. Houston really covered the spread and they'll be bowling up to the table tonight behind Tex Rex Burkhead and Nico de Gallo Collins. Texans 13, no drag wars, 6.

Up to Carolina where Jeff Wilson, Dunnock, Dunnock, Jeff Wilson, King of Russia, latest hate on the Panthers defense all afternoon long and Matt Golden Rule says do on to others as you would do on to yourself. So be careful Kyle Shanahan, you might get spit on. The Niners look like Kurt Zumer kicking the cats all over the field and it looks like Baker might need a PJ Walker as he was seen in the dreaded walking boot after the game. Niners 37, Panthers 15. We go out to the desert where Kyler Murray Magdalene went down controversially and really

blew it when he was supposed to be helping the savior, Cliff King of Kingsbury. The Eagles have a monopoly on first place in the NFC as go directly to J.L. and Hertz trapped Kyler under a thimble and railroaded him. Cameron Dicker said, hey Matt, what's up, let's slide. And Mondola misses kick wide right, Cardinals 20, the Eagles 17, that was wrong. Then in on the corner, James Winston down in Nola, such a fine sight to see. It's DK my lord and his butt is sore from last week when he had diarrhea. You have to fight back.

Saints fans don't like that. They're riding Gino off. He didn't ride back. Saints go marching 39, 32. That is week five brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Chevy Silverado shows up week in and week out with unstoppable grit and determination from tailgates and stadium lots to off road adventure. Chevy Silverado has you covered.

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This game, this is old school AFC Northgate. This is what we watch for. We watch for the Ravens playing on Sunday Night in their dark, dark, black uniforms. Defense swarming. Queen picked off maybe the easiest interception of his entire career. Yes. Yes. And Lamar has missed many multiple wide open wide receivers. But that's just good defense, baby.

Well, really what this game is, it's a it's a battle between the two best kickers in the NFL, Justin Tucker and Evan McPherson just sort of like flexing at each other. They're doing like almost ballet style poses after they drill a 60 yard field goal. It's the kicker version of the Sunday Night Football. Jay Cutler versus Phil Rivers way back in the day and like oh, seven. Yes, whole bull. Yeah. We they were just yelling at each other, screaming at each other from the sideline,

but with kickers. So yeah, we will update it as it goes final and we'll talk about this game. But let's get into the games. Let's let's hop right into the games. I feel like this week, if you had a grade this week, there were some exciting moments. There also were some absolute shit kickings that went down, notably the Bills and the 49ers. I don't know if I'm forgetting any other shit kickings that occurred, but it was a good week.

It felt like a good week. Patriots. Oh, yeah, Patriots. Definitely. I would say, yeah, the Bills was the shit kicking of the week. Yes. Yes. But let's hop in the games. Let's do it. We'll go from chronological order as always. Starting with the London game, the first time we ever sent two teams over 500 to London, the Giants 27, the Packers 22. Brian Dabel is a fucking awesome coach.

I'm going to say he's a Haas. He's awesome. He's definitely a Haas. I like his entire coaching staff, actually, like Wink, Martindale. Every time they show Wink on the sidelines. Oh, yeah. I'm like, why haven't I gotten a full daily I dose of Wink, Martindale for the last 10 years? Because he's he's like he looks like an old retired professional wrestler a little bit.

Yeah, like a rat tail mullet thing that he's got going on. And the name is like he's he's an associate of the Mafia. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's our guy, Wink, Martindale. He does the numbers. He runs that if you're Wink, Martindale. Yes, you're either like collecting on the street from somebody or you're a football coach. Yeah. That's really the only thing that you can be. He's got the chain.

Here's how good Brian Dabel is as a coach. And I know maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves, but no one thought the Giants were going to be four and one. Oh, and I'll even go beyond. Like, I know that the Giants are a legitimately good team. They're like a well coached team right now. They're not the most talented team, but I'm not even going to have the discussion of whether they're like

one of the worst four and one teams of all time, because they're just a good four and one team. This was a game they weren't supposed to win. They win this game. They now have tied their wins from last year. So that tells you everything right there. Like week five, like it wasn't a huge roster turnover. Week five, they've already tied all their wins for last year.

And Brian Dabel is such a good coach. He actually has made Wildcat work again. Yeah, like that actually is the hardest test you could do because Wildcat we've joked about ever since Tony Sparano brought it out with Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams. Like it hasn't worked for years. Teams will run it just to give him a different look. And they'll be like, Oh, is this running back in a runner pass?

And then he always runs. And yeah, they're always running still. But he like they have used them. They've maxed the most out of their talent and Daniel Jones actually played well on a hobbled ankle. Saquon was awesome. Then he got hurt, but they just they maxed the most out of their team. That's how good Brian Dabel is a good coach.

I'm going to say it right now. Daniel Jones not only had like an ankle injury he was recovering from. His hand looked like he jammed it up a robot's ass. It was just bleeding. He was bleeding from the wrist and like from the back of the hand. A ton of blood. So when he was going under center, he was going under his center's butt. And it looked like his center was having his period out of his butt

the entire time. And when I first saw a center like running down feeling a block, I was like, do you poop himself? Yeah, because I poop situation. And then I put two and two together. No, his quarterback is just experiencing stigmata and bleeding out onto his white pants. Yeah, it was it was such a fun game to watch. And I do you're kind of right with them running the Wildcat all the time.

That's not an assesity. But also with Daniel Jones, when he's he's a good runner. Yeah. And now we've actually we've reached the point week one. We were saying, I think it was like after Daniel Jones did that really bad interception in the end zone. Well, at least he's not the guy. At least you don't have to worry about him being that now your team is playing so well.

And Daniel Jones is proving to be at least like a very tough guy. He's back and firmly like is he the guy? Well, he my theory is and it's a lot of people probably are thinking the same thing that the Giants are essentially saying Daniel Jones isn't the guy. So we're going to just basically say we don't really care about his long term health will run him all the time. But he might just be such a gamer that he just runs himself into a contract extension where he's like, hey, you you basically said we'll we'll waste his

his health to try to eke out a few wins. And now he's just winning while injured and playing good ball. And it was yeah, the Giants are you got to be careful. He is fucked. They have no wide receivers. They have no wide receivers. No, no one. They have no wide.

They did like a double reverse Philly special to their backup tight end. Who ran the ball in that was like the play calling that the Giants are doing. They're actually fun. And I tweeted this out. I had a bunch of people be like, oh, you must not have remembered the Super Bowl runs. This is like the first time that I can remember a Giants team being fun to watch as an outsider. Right. Yeah. Those Super Bowl teams had great defenses.

And like when they 2007 that front four, amazing to watch. Plexigro Burris, he was fun to watch sometimes. But this is just like a fun team with kind of like wrinkles in the play calling. It's almost like it's almost like a chiefs style offense without Patrick Mahomes and the elite wide receivers without anything without anything. They're running one there. Yeah, they're running the chiefs offense with no downfield threats whatsoever. And it's actually really fun to watch.

And it's maybe a little reasons he buys because the game against the Bears last week was not fun to watch. But that doesn't matter. Like my my biggest takeaway is that the Giants just like, you know, when a coach doesn't have the best roster, but they're finding ways. And like there's a certain there's something to be said when they're trying all these different plays, it's not they're trying it because they know everything will work. Like, you know, when the chiefs get bored and they get cute,

yeah, the Giants are doing it in a necessity. Yeah, they're like, we need desperation. We need to have like five plays that just do something different because we can't just run it to say quant every play and have Daniel Jones run, you know, past people every play on a hobbled ankle. But yeah, this and then this game, this game completely turned. I God damn it. I love the Packers, how they always do this to themselves.

They fucking I love when they do this. They just fall in love with the past and the shotgun pass and it killed them today. And I love it when it kills them. They were running the ball so well and the game basically turned on the Giants going on like a 10 play drive, score a touchdown. The Packers come back. So your defense is gassed. They come back.

They go three incompletions from shotgun and then the Giants score another touchdown on a long drive. Yeah, it was like game over. That was a really it changed the entire outcome. Like how the game was being played. The Packers just run and get a few first downs. It probably plays out differently. The Packers probably win the game, but they it seriously was

I'm looking up right now is 15 plays, 91 yards, eight minutes. The Giants went for a touchdown drive. The Packers had the ball for 26 seconds. And then the Giants went for another drive. Six plays, 60 yards, three and a half minutes. Yeah, that was the game. That was that went from 20 to 13 to 27 20. I love the Packers do that.

It makes me so happy when they fall in love with it. And guess what? Aaron Rodgers didn't throw an interception, so you should be happy. So every week, I like to find some of that. Brian Dable does that like a first year coach should not be doing where he's. And when I say should not be doing, I mean, he's overprepared for the job. He hasn't had too many of those growing pains that a lot of coaches get their first year. This week, it was blatantly obvious.

Like he did something on at least on defense. They were ready for Aaron Rodgers to catch them in their. I think they had like six different defensive backs on the field. They went small to cover all the wide receivers and Aaron Rodgers loves to catch the opponent when they're trying to sub out once they start running the ball against that light set. And so the Giants saw that Rodgers was going to catch them with too many men on the field and they're ready for it.

And they stopped their substitution in the middle of the play and they didn't go through with it because they knew that Rodgers had prepared for them. So they Dable prepared for Aaron Rodgers preparing for the Giants. Yeah. And he beat him at his own game in it. And that's not something that most first year coaches ever do. And like you imagine Nathaniel Hackett, no, trying to go up against that. He would that's thinking way too far in advance.

He would crack himself. Yeah, no, no chance. But it also it the the issues with the Packers, like we've all talked about the wide receivers, but it was so clear that Aaron Rodgers only trusted trust Lazard and Randall Cobb, they had 21 targets. They had more than half the targets for the Packers. And that was what happened at the end. When it's like, you know, where the ball's going and they just kept on

batting it down and it was great. It was a great way to start a Sunday. Also, shout out to the English Giants fans out there for coming up with a shove the fucking cheese up your ass. Yeah, I loved it. I mean, I think you're kind of like me, where you hear a British guy chant something and you're immediately like, yep, I'm in for whatever. Yeah.

So that's especially that fucking cheese up your ass. Yeah, especially that cheese show the fucking cheese show the fucking cheese up your ass. It doesn't say anything, but it works. No, you have it up your ass. Yeah, shove it up your ass. It sounds great. And we also had the video that went viral of the Giants player homes

getting jerked off on the sideline. That was wild. That I mean, we all know he's getting a massage on the top of his leg, probably in his quad. Yeah, but the angle of I assume a British fan getting that, that is some just good old fashioned, like British humor. Yeah, I mean, just being like, look at this guy. He looks like he's getting jerked off.

Do you think that if if having somebody on your sidelines that just kept your players like semi erect during the games, if that got proven that they'd be faster because they had more blood, certainly in the lower body, would they have a guy on the sideline who was in charge of teams would absolutely do it. Do you have a fluffer? Yeah, fluffer, fluffer and a stunt cock. And now we're not going to make the obvious joke that you think that we're

going to make. No, we're not. Um, can I play this last question for you guys from from from the reporter? I don't know if you guys saw this. I just want you guys to hear it and I want your reaction. If you didn't see it, um, it was quite something. So this is, I can't remember her name. NFL network talking to say one after the game.

This is what she asked, uh, say one. We're the recovery. So many guys say that if I took the confidence of out of your head right now out of your heart and I put it on a scale, how much confidence you have yourself and this team, how heavy would that scale be? If you took the confidence and heart out of your head and body and then put that on a scale, how heavy would the scale be? Not what would the scale read?

How heavy would the scale be? And then take one, like try to clean it up for us. Like, well, one out of 10. Let's let's talk English here. Yeah. Cause what you just said made no sense. They both weigh the same. They both weigh the same.

A pound of confidence and a pound of air heart. No, it's heart and confidence. A pound of heart and a pound of confidence. Which weighs more? Hmm. I think the heart weighs more. And how would the confidence, like if you took it out while you were injured. And then you said in the team on the scale, but you're also remember it's you're

weighing the scale too. What if it's an old, old school scale that slides like at the doctor's office? I don't those things wait a lot. I don't think that you can take confidence. If you're really super confident, you would say there's no possible way for you to remove the confidence from my body. Right. That's how confident.

Right. Okay. So yeah, that one confused me. I think the confidence should be zero pounds. Whatever the scale weighs, that should be how much the confidence. I feel like the heart has to weigh something. Secretariat's heart was seven pounds. How much does the heart weigh?

I haven't, I haven't watched the last episode of Dommer yet. So I'm not sure. Yeah. The heart. Seven pounds. Seven pounds. Is that the movie? I thought it was those eight pounds is the human head.

Oh, 28 grams. 28 grams. Yeah. Is the heart. That's the soul. That's a brick. Oh, okay. Yeah, that is a brick.

Yeah, that would be a sacro on like one kilo. It was, yeah, that was a nice ending to the game. But yeah, fun way to start the day. I thought the quote of the day came from Russell Douglas. They asked about the experience of playing over in England. And his answer was it fucking sucks. You don't get to do nothing over there. You just fucking get on a plane, get over there and fucking practice.

Then you play a game. You get back on a plane and travel fucking eight hours somewhere else. It's I mean, and it's always great because whenever these games happen, they'll do the photo op where the players will be at some attraction or, you know, wearing a weird hat, you know, they just hate it. They just hate every second. And then Roger, it all said that he thinks that England is able to support not just one, but two franchises right now.

So we're going to do the LA model. It's going to happen in London. It is going to happen. And they're going to it's going to be the weirdest scheduling. And like they're going to have to have a member. They talked about having a facility in New York that they can be at for long road trips. They'll put them on the road for like two, three weeks at a time.

Right. And then every other team gets fucked. And then you have like a randomly when you have you know what they should do is they should have a team in London. And then when they have to play against like the Rams, they should just play in New York and call it the Jets. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that works. That sounds good. That feels like it would work.

I think that they should take a preexisting English soccer team like an EPL team and then make a football team that's like the cousin of theirs or like the brother, the sibling of that team. So I like that. Like what's a good team in London right now, like Manchester United? Yeah, really good. Have it be Manchester United Football Club. The Ronaldo scored his 700th penalty goal.

Oh, that's incredible. Yeah, probably never be broken. I think it was 700th goal overall, but like 650 of them are penalties. Yeah, it's sad. Yeah. Cool. You won the free throw record, dude. Awesome. OK, let's go to the next game. Chargers, Browns. Chargers 30, Browns 28.

Jacobi Berset. I have a fun stat. The Browns have been leading in the fourth quarter to start the fourth quarter of every single game this year. Yeah, and all three of their losses have just been a really sad Jacobi Berset for interception. Today's was especially sad. It was he telegraphed it to a Chargers player.

It was like shocking even to watch because it was like a double coverage. He's like, here, just take it. I'm done with this game. And yeah, the Browns like this is that we've had our moments where like Jacobi Berset playing nice ball. He once he gets extended for more than a couple of games, like, OK, maybe that that's why he's the back. I think with Berset, he's a guy that you can confidently say

has maximized his abilities. Like when he's out on the field, he doesn't he doesn't ever look lost. He doesn't ever look like the game's moving too fast for him. He's just he's he's bumping his head on what his physical limitations are at this point. He's a perfectly fine backup, I guess. Yeah. And he's like a slightly above average backup quarterback. But I think you touched on earlier that how the Browns

have lost what three three games all three games. One of them was against the Jets where he was like 20 seconds left. I'm not going to hold that against him. But the Falcons game, he threw an interception when they were driving. What's not specifically him. I think I think that the Browns are the Chargers. Yeah, the Browns have taken the Chargers label from the Chargers. Other there is so bad.

They're the most Chargers team in the NFL taking that crown from, I guess, the Chargers. Yes. And their defense, the Browns defense finds a different way every week to just be horrifically bad. And then you watch Nick Chubb just run through everyone. You're like this team rocks. This is fun. And then they get to crunch time and they're leading in the fourth quarter.

And you have to have it's like having a car that you go on the highway. And it's like if we go over 80 miles an hour, things are going to start like rattling blows up. We don't know what's going to happen. That's Jacobi percent. Like if you're playing in the first three quarters, it's nice. It's fun. And then when you need that big throw or that big drive,

it doesn't it's not fun anymore. So that's why you want to jump out of the car. That's why teams need to have closers and like set up men like Jacobi percent is a he's a great starting pitcher at times, but he can't close the game. And he runs out of gas right in the fourth quarter. He should be on a pitch count. And once they get later on the game, they put somebody else in a quarterback

to close it out. And I swear to God, Brandon Staley is so aggressive that he needs to be put down for his own good. OK, so for those around him. Yes. So for anyone who didn't watch the game, the Chargers are up 20 or sorry, 30 to 28. The they have the ball on what their own 45 maybe fourth and two with a minute and a half left and Brandon Staley goes for it, doesn't get it. It's crazy, but I also am fine with it because it's Brandon Staley.

And he's already told everyone who he is. And he's like, I their offense was humming. They could Mike Williams could do whatever he wanted the entire game. Austin Eckler was just running all over everyone. And remember in the Chief Chargers game, Thursday night football, when he was not being Brandon Staley and he was punting all the time. I think that's because, you know, everyone's saying, well, his defense is good now. He doesn't have to do the same thing.

His defense sucks now because he doesn't have Bosa and they've had a ton of injuries. So he's back to being crazy man, Brandon Staley. Like, we just got to win the game by going for it all the time. So as crazy as it is, he's told you who he is. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's told you what he's going to do. So when he does it, you can't be shocked. I was shocked when he did this one, though.

When he did this offense was when he did this one and and even his own. I think Keenan Allen was on Twitter and was like, what the fuck are we doing? Like questioning Brandon Staley's going for in that fourth down because the game, the Browns weren't playing that well offensively at that point in the game. Like, obviously, Berset had not had a great fourth quarter. They put the ball down field and then they have to how much time was left. It was like a minute and a half.

It was like a minute and a half. I think at that point I would have lived with a longer field. Like Brandon Staley is just he's like a like a dog that's foaming at the mouth. Sometimes it's like you have to he needs to have like a second person looking over his shoulder to be like, Brandon, are you are you sure about this? Well, because this we're getting to the point of just recklessness. Yeah, it was a minute and 13. And again, I did not agree with it, but I also sat there being like,

well, it is Brandon Staley. He's a fucking wild boy. He's told you he's a wild boy. He's going to do wild boys shit. He gets in the Gremlin mode and you can see it on the sidelines. Like sometimes his offense even knows now. Like when Brandon's really cooking as a gremlin, they start. They don't even walk towards the sideline after third down. They're like, OK, we're staying out here

because we know that he's going to have us go for it no matter what. Right. They should actually have like Chris Pontius and Steve Oh being on the sideline with him, just wild boys like, hey, watch me go for fourth and two on my own side of the field with one minute left. Well, I have a dick while I have a snake like bite my dick. Yeah, wild boys. You're like, OK, yeah, it makes sense because he he really is.

I think he's told you what he's going to do. And then when he does it, you can't be like, what the fuck is this? I think he's just he's really into unnecessary risk taking. I think he's just got like a kink for just living on the edge. He's an adrenaline junkie. Yeah. And so he's just going to keep pushing the limit further and further and further. At some point, he's going to hit rock bottom and go for on like a fourth and 20. Yeah.

And it's going to be exciting in the fourth quarter. They'll get it last. Remember, he did it on his own, like 30. Yeah, he'll go for like fourth and 20 from his own 35 up by six points with like 30 seconds left in the game. Yeah. And then at that point, he'll start to recover and truly heal. Then only to have an intervention with all his injured players. Yes. So chargers with the Browns are just basically

trying to tread water at this point. Their defense is so, so bad. And then they just run the ball down everyone's throat for like three quarters. And it's always fun to watch because Nick Chubb is Nick Chubb makes running the football fun. He makes it look easy to. Yes, very easy. He looks like he's never exerting himself before every snap.

He lines up in the backfield and he just stands directly straight up in the air, like not even ready in an athletic position. He's just staying straight up. Then they hike the ball and then he gets it and then he runs past everybody and then stiff arms, three guys. And I actually I'm looking at their schedule right now. I don't know if they will be able to tread water because they're playing the Patriots, the Ravens, the Bengals, the Dolphins, the Bills and the Bucks.

That feels tough. That's all before Deshaun gets back, which would be against the Texans in December. Yeah, that feels like a maybe win one or two. So you're you're you know, you're probably out of it or not out of it. But because the Browns, like you said, they're they can beat every team. They just they're not able to close out games. Can they, though?

Because I think I have some bad news. I think they can get leads. I have some bad news. I'm I'm this is this is the point of the season where we have some some data points and we can look back and be like, oh, who have you beaten? They've beaten the Panthers and the Steelers. Those might be the two worst teams in the NFL. They're bad. They're bad.

It might be the two teams. The NFL, but who have they gotten leads against? They've gotten leads against the Jets. Yeah, and the Falcons. Yeah, and the Chargers. So not still like they might get fucking pounded by a good team. They can get when they play the Bills, they're going to get pounded, pounded. Hank just gave a big look.

Looks like the Bengals just took the lead. Joe Burrow scored a touchdown. Two minutes left. Lamar start running for the Mount Rushmore. Too much time on the clock for Justin Tucker. Yes, too much time on the clock for Justin Tucker. And we just need Lamar to just do Oh, he Oh, Evan MacPherson almost missed. Wait, did he?

I that. How is that not? It went right over. It went right over. I don't understand how that's a virtual door to a door. Yeah, it was a virtual doink. I guess it counts. Anything else on Brown's Chargers? Not really.

Yeah, the defense is just is abysmal and the chart. Wow, boys. Oh, it was it was a midgame. Yeah, it was a midgame. They're back. We had an attack of the midges today. The ones that like crawled up Jabba Chamberlain's nose one time in the playoffs. Yeah, they were back in full force.

I guess I thought that was going to be a sign to take the under because there's no way you can score points when you have bugs crawling all over you. Yeah, but for whatever reason, I guess that didn't hold. That's how bad these defenses are. They were able to overcome a midgame where the overhead. Yes, yes. OK, before we get to the next game, game time, MLB playoffs are here underway.

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And he came out to 50 cent many men. And that was goosebumps on top of your goose. No, I mean, that's my big takeaway from today's game is today was something bigger than sports and bigger than whatever the final score happened to be. Good point. Because Brian Robinson, I thought like when I saw the news just about a month ago, I was just thinking about him as a human being. Yep. You know, he happens to be an athlete. He happens to play for my favorite team.

I was just hoping that he was going to survive, much less be able to walk again, much less be able to play football again, much less be able to carry the ball for my favorite team in an NFL game. So I think first and foremost, we just have to say like it was touching. It was great to see that. I'm glad that he's healthy. It's beautiful to see, you know, what sports can kind of be a vehicle for, which is really a human interest story that I had in Brian Robinson. So I didn't really pay much attention to the rest of the game after that.

But I just want to say like congratulations to Brian Robinson. And I think the team did a great job in kind of lifting him up. And showcasing, hey, look at what amazing feat this person like hypothetically, I don't I didn't know what the final score was. But like Derek Henry, if he had gotten a couple of rushing touchdowns or whatever, what's more impressive rushing for a one yard touchdown or getting shot twice in your leg and coming back and playing in an NFL game a month later? It's a fair question.

What's what's the better athletic feat? I would say Billy has bro football doc. What what has been accomplished more in the history of the NFL? One yard touchdown rushes are getting shot twice and then playing in a game later. Well, one yard touchdown rushes have been accomplished more. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So you're saying like, yeah, this is this is the first once in a lifetime feat. The first that I like Plexico got shot in his leg and went to jail.

Yeah. Brian. Yeah. Brian Robinson got shot in his leg and went back into the game. So I mean, shout out, Brian Robinson. That's really all that I had. I did I did get a request to do a straw update. I do have an update. Here's my the straw that I cut in half. I'm throwing that straw away. OK.

So I'm not strong. No, I have the other half of the straw that I cut in half. Got it. So I'm down to one straw. Got it. Down to one straw. No, it's actually kind of a cool place where I'm at. They can't hurt me anymore. They really can't. So I'm just looking forward to maybe maybe we lose all the games

for the rest of the season. Maybe we put Sam Howlin there a little bit to see what we got with him. And then we look at the draft. Maybe we get a cool toy for me to play with next year. Yeah. And Carson had a chance. He had a chance to be the hero today and with an interception on the one yard line. OK, so with the interception on the one yard line, I think that's being kind of that's the big headline is who Carson

went through an interception from the one yard line to close the game out. But we're not going to the one yard line. We're not talking about the fact that he threw three consecutive interceptions on that last possession. Just the other two happened to land either one out of bounds or the other bounced off the defender's hands. Yeah. So there were actually three consecutive interceptions that he threw only the last one was caught, which was as good as a punt.

He was trying as hard as he could to give that game away at the end. He was. And he had a couple of nice deep balls. But the Titans Derek Henry looked awesome. Here's a fun stat that makes no sense. The Titans through five weeks, they're three and two. They have yet to score a point in the fourth quarter. That is a fun stat. That's that's I mean, I don't I don't know what's going on there. But they just grind out wins.

We've talked ad nauseam about the Titans like you. You can look at the Titans and you can say you don't think it's a good team. And I'd agree with you. And then all they do is win football. Well, I think that they're better than you think they are, because this game is a game that the Titans would lose last year. Yeah. Or even the year before that. Remember when they lost to the Jets?

Yeah. At the Meadowlands when they were undefeated at the time. This is a game like obviously an inferior opponent on the road. A lot of people would overlook the commanders and they should overlook the commanders for being honest. But yeah, the Titans came out. They want so credit to them. But again, I think the focus on this game should be that Brian Robinson is healthy and what an amazing story that is.

Agree. And the rest of it's just kind of a distraction. Lip service. Whatever. But really, the true story is like what a tremendous young man this is. Yeah, Brian Robinson. Any other notes from this game? You guys, Hank, you were you were living and dying with this game. Oh, Lamar is getting loose. Go Lamar. Go. Go Lamar. Go. I.

That could be it. We have the Mount Rushmore bet that I hope all AWLs have bet because we did win one week in a row. And Lamar Jackson could have just ripped off the he's at 50 exactly. Don't take a knee. He's at 50 exactly. Are they going to have just refresh? She's at 50 exactly, boys. Are they going to have him take a knee to set up Tucker?

This is quite something to be live for. That would fucking suck. Oh, my God, he's exactly 50 rushing yards. I have nothing to add to that game. I was I was with PFT for the commanders and the dog. Hard. Yeah, hard. How did you like being a commander's fan for an afternoon? Well, it felt like we had it.

It was like this, you know, easy win. We're getting the ball on the goal line. Three chances. Tights can't score in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Left hand up. Who are we? The commander. Yeah. What a fucking fire song that is. Oh, so far. I mean, the stands were amped up today.

I felt like this was the one home game that we've had this year that's truly been a home game. Even the Jaguars fans traveled pretty well. Yeah. Up to land. I mean, the Brian Robinson moment was incredible. It was awesome. And the fact that he came out to many men is so great. But it was so fucking great.

Yeah. But yeah, the the commanders suck and the Titans are just going to keep winning games. I don't know how they'll do it, but they'll keep winning games. Well, I do have just a quick quote here from Ron Rivera. If anyone is feeling despondent over the commanders or feeling like it's time to press the panic button, he says, it's not panic time,

but there is a sense of urgency. So we've got that going. Good. I get the feeling like this might be a clean house off season. Yeah. I feel like Tanya Snyder is at her wit's end and will probably make a move.

I think the rule for cleaning the entire house is you have to, if you can sit there and be like, have we hit our peak and covering the spread against the box in the playoffs was your peak. That was absolutely. When you can actually say, you can point to it, you're like, that was the peak. And it's been all downhill from that point.

That's fire the coach time. I would say that like of the Ron Rivera era, the two best parts have been Alex Smith coming back from a debilitating leg injury and getting into a game and Brian Robinson coming back from a debilitating leg injury and getting into a game. That and also the covering in the playoffs. But it was very clearly the peak

when Trevor Heinecke kind of almost beat the box in the super wild card home game that we had in the playoffs. In the COVID year. But that really is a great test. If you're thinking about firing your head coach, just ask yourself, have we hit our peak? And you can pretty much answer it right away. Like all the coaches that have been fired in my life,

you can actually point like, oh yeah, yeah. We knew when the peak happened and it's been all downhill from that point. You know that that was the peak. And I'm looking at big picture here. The NFC beast is back. Yeah, it is. The beast is fucking back.

The best division in sports. 16 and four? In all of sports, not just football. The NFC East is the best division in professional, collegiate, international sports, better than CONCACAF. It's the best division there is. Yep.

Okay. Lamar, by the way, just got a couple more yards. So I think we just sealed it. Mount Rushmore is hot. If I were the Bengals, I would let Lamar score. Yeah, I would too. We too. Let Lamar score.

Yeah. That's two in a row for the boys. That's two in a row for the boys. That feels good. It was nice having a Sunday night one to look forward to. I wish it was the only bet I made on this game, but it wasn't. What was the odds on?

400, 41. Yep. We're just giving back to the people building. It's nice. Okay. Let's go to the next game. Saints Seahawks, shootout. Seahawks are a fun team to watch

because they only play in shootouts. Saints win 39-32. The Taysum Hill game. This was officially the Taysum Hill game. He had four touchdowns, three rushing, one throwing, and he also recovered a punt on a fumble on a punt on special teams. Like somewhere, Sean Payton is sitting there in his visor

just watching and being like, there goes my boy. I always do. This is, today's game was no, there's been no better piece of evidence so far this year that Sean Payton is the ghost head coach of the New Orleans Saints and how they use Taysum Hill today. I guarantee you Sean Payton is involved somehow,

some way in the preparation for these games. Cause yeah, it's like Taysum, we're going to give you an entire dose of Taysum Hill. I think he can cuss like three different linebackers with his own face today. He would just, you'd look up and it would just be Taysum Hill just ramming through people. He was incredible.

The Saints got their little bounce back game where they proved, cause this was a game for the Saints. Justin Tucker hits the kick. The Ravens win 19 to 17. It was Justin Tucker so fucking good. Yeah. But yeah, we'll recap that game in a minute. If you were drafting a team right now,

first round or Justin Tucker? He's fucking good, man. He's a weapon. I think I would take Justin Tucker in the first round. You just have to get the ball in midfield and you have a chance. It's crazy. Like automatic three points.

I would take him in the first round and then I would take Daniel Jones in the second round. Yes. And then I'd be set. And then you just, you're just in Saquon in the fifth. And then you, yeah, no, the rest of my team would be the Giants except with Justin Tucker. Yes, yes.

But yeah, the Seahawks Saints, it was just fun to watch because the Saints got right. Geno Smith, I am actually ready to apologize. I'm ready to apologize because we did joke about how we're cool with writing off Geno Smith. He had one good game week one, but now he's put together a few good games in a row and he was dropping times.

Like absolute dimes, like 50 yard dimes. And that's not the Geno Smith I know. The Geno Smith I know is not dropping those type of passes. He was very good, no interceptions, didn't win, but I am, I'm ready to say my apologies to Geno Smith. I think it's fair to say at this point that Russell Wilson might have been a system quarterback because Geno Smith right now,

if we're grading who won that trade, Pete Carroll is doing the Monopoly man strut. And he's like, yeah, fucking fleece. The Broncos got fleeced. He got rid of Russell Wilson like he was a bad penny, no pun intended. But I think that Geno Smith is, he's making the throws that Russ was making.

He's doing the little drop in the buckets to like some guy named Lockett that's all the way down the field. That was Russell's thing that he did for six years in a row. Geno Smith is making pretty throws right now. He's scrambling, he's like climbing in the pocket and he's keeping his eyes down field and hitting wide open receivers

as he's getting close to the line of scrimmage. Like he is acting, he's doing a great job being almost like a stunt double version of Russ Wilson. Yeah, I'm ready to say that I was wrong. Like Geno Smith looks, let's not go all the way for real, but he looks like a better than replacement level. Like, you know, the teams that basically say, oh, we're gonna throw this guy out there.

We'll just fucking, you know, see what happens, but we know he's not the guy. Like Geno Smith, I think could play himself into the guy, which is crazy to say. We're not gonna, we're not doing this right now. We're gonna, we're not having to- I said play himself into it. I said play himself into it.

You know what, I agree. I think Geno Smith just needs, he needs more time. We don't- He could play himself into it. We don't know what Geno Smith can become if he gave him enough time in the system. Here's my point. Geno Smith plays like this for the rest of the year.

Next year, he's still the starting quarterback for the Seahawks. Ooh, I don't know. I, I, he's playing good. Probably, yeah. Cause they were probably- Like he is playing good. My guess is the Seahawks would more than likely

draft a quarterback. Well, if he plays this good for the rest of the year, they'll win enough games that they probably won't be in the top five picks, right? Maybe, right? They'll probably be right around like five through 10, so there might be a quarterback available, maybe one they could trade up for.

I mean, listen, I know that I swing like a pendulum so severely and it's like one week I'm like, this guy stinks and the next week I'm like, hey, he could play himself for the guy. I get that, but that's what sports fandom is. You gotta overreact. I've seen enough of Geno Smith and his like, when he was back at West Virginia,

some of those games I was like, there's only one guy on planet Earth that can do that and that's Geno Smith. And he was like, it's the throws he was making. I was like, damn. And, and, and the Saints defense is good. Yeah. So just watch it.

He's could play himself into maybe being the starter next year. That's a better statement. He's not going to be the guy. He's never going to be a guy. You think, you think DK is, is low key, like pumped that Russell Wilson's not around anymore. Well, remember guys, Russell Wilson is hurt.

I don't know if you guys saw, but he's hurt. Yeah. It got released that he's hurt. Well, it's not an excuse. Never saw that happen. It's not an excuse, but he's hurt. He's hurt. He has a partially torn lat.

He's, he's hurt. Do you see what Matthew Berry said on Thursday, I think. Matthew Berry said, I predict that in the next couple of days, some news will come out that Russell Wilson has been playing with an injured shoulder. It was so, it was so perfect that he played so, so bad. And all the, all the reports from the locker room, I was, he was sitting in his pads for 40 minutes.

Well, Nathaniel Hackett's whispered sweet nothings into his ear. And then I just saw like he, he, it basically was like bam, bam, like God has a plan. He tweeted and then Russell Wilson's lat is injured. It's like, he's back. He's ready. Like you guys can't make fun of him.

He's hurt. He's very, very hurt. But yeah, St. Seahawks, I, I did say before, like I thought the Saints, if they win this game, they, they're going to be one of those tough teams down the stretch. I don't know what, like, I don't even know what they're doing now.

Like James is still hurt. Andy Dalton's playing, but then Taysum Hills, the only impactful like quarterback they have and then, but it doesn't matter. That's just how the Saints do it. They're just playing football. I would actually say that Taysum, if we're going to set up quarterbacks in terms of like a

starter, a setup man, and then a closer Taysum Hills are pretty good closers. Yeah. I could see Taysum Hill coming off the bench. He's an innings heater too. Yeah. To whatever Mormon version of the, the Narcos trumpet song he wants to have played and he could go in and just boom,

you're just going to run the ball right at people. And then once every like 10, 10 times you get the ball, you're going to throw it and they won't see it coming. Boom. First down. He's just, he's just a football player. He's a football player. He's a football player.

He's, when you recruit him, it's ATH. He's an athlete. And then you just figure it out later. Yeah. But the Taysum Hill game did happen and yeah, probably two teams, two teams go nowhere, but it was still a very fun game, very fun game. Okay. Next up, Jets Dolphins.

The battle of the couch. Let's go boys. You were there. The couch divided. You were there. I haven't had more fun at a football game than I did today. It was like the first time in a long time that I was like, I fucking love football.

Really? Like, like intensely. Really? It was, I realized I brought such good vibes. I like that you guys still got your like jerseys and colors on. It makes it for a very good visual right now. Were you saying, man, I love football?

Man, yeah. I mean, it was such a beautiful day. It was. And we just had such, like, it was just so, everything was clicking, the Jets were clicking. Demolished them. It was like, amazing. This is Billy's version of like a, you know,

like Ralph Waldo Emerson when he became like a trance and dentalist and was just like completely taken in by nature. That's what Billy's like. He's like, I stepped into nature today. You really went to like, you went to MetLife Stadium in the Meadowlands, New Jersey. East Rutherford, yes. I mean, your team's basically Walden Pond.

You swamped them, 40 to 17. It was a wamping. When was the last time the Jets have swamped a team? 40 to 17, like that's a good question. I think they ran out of fireworks to blow like, because they were blasting off the cannons behind us. And I'd never been at a Jets game where they're blasting off that many cannons.

And I think they started only doing a couple of them. Yeah. Because I think they ran out of fireworks. They just didn't have enough. That's so sad that the Jets, I mean, I get it. I'm happy for Billy, but this is like low key depressing. Why? The Jets ran out of cannons.

No, no, no. When they were blasting off. I'm happy for you Billy and I'm pumped for you because you got to take your football wins where you can get them. Over 500. Yeah. I mean, that's huge.

Beated divisional rival. That's huge. I mean, it's the first time you won a division game. I think it was 12 games streak that you were, you lost division games. So a couple of years there. Patriots on October 30th at Medlife. Watch out.

That's, I think, how we. Wait, what, it's, you know what? What? Your steward, like, I think that's, you know what, you know. What do you guys get a dress as? Zach Wilson. Okay, nice. And you should dress as a milf.

And Billy should get to fuck you after. Or a frog. Or a frog. Wait, is that, that's just a Sunday game? That's not a Monday night game? I think that's a Sunday. That would have been great. Monday night game, we took a whole PMT field trip too.

That would be awesome. Yeah. But it was the perfect game for the. I'm out. Yeah. If that is, if it is a Monday game. No, but it was the perfect game for Zach Wilson to like really just get in the driver's seat.

Like, you know, first game back, it was good. You know, they got the win, but this game was sort of just a good, like, get it going game. Yeah. I wouldn't win the last time that the jet scored 40 points was probably been a while. It's probably a really long time, right? Probably been a while.

They're over 500 in October for, I mean, it's probably been five years since that's happened. And I mean, our defense was stellar. Defense looked good. You were playing Skyler Thompson, Teddy Bridgewater. The dolphins, of course, it happened to the dolphins that the rule of their mismanagement of Tua and concussions that basically created a new rule

where there's a spotter watching. And if you appear at all wobbly, you have to come out of the game. Teddy Bridgewater gets, it was a safety. It was a tetral grounding in the end zone. Gets, gets sacked. And he, the spotter said he appeared wobbly. He passed all the concussion protocol tests,

but because they said he appeared wobbly getting up, that he had to sit out. Now this is, by the way, this is so classic NFL, because now every single coach is going to teach their players, just stay down for an extra second, get yourself together and then stand up or have a, have one of your like all, you'll, you, I bet you you'll watch anytime a quarterback gets sacked now,

as a hard hit, there will be alignment that goes and picks them up and like holds them for a second. You know what I mean? So they can't wobble. They can't visibly wobble. So I think that's what happened with Brax and Barrios who scored on end around, reach out. I think he landed on the football,

but he, you know, took a knee and took some time to get up. I think he was just, but people were thinking, was that because of this new rule? It's going to happen. Was it because he didn't want to get up and stumble a little bit and get taken out of the game? Guys are going to definitely like, not milk, well, yeah, milk it.

Like they're going to be taught to stay down for an extra beat so that they don't have any little bit of wobble because this is the rule is supposed to be good in theory, but it makes no sense because you have a guy like Teddy Bridgewater who, I mean, he didn't get hit that hard. And if you pass all the concussion protocols, but the one arbitrary person sitting upstairs is like,

Oh, he kind of wobbled a little bit. I didn't see the replay. So I can't say whether or not he did actually. I couldn't find the wobble, but people were demanding the wobble. They were like tweet the wobble. What happens is the NFL is kind of like TSA where they retroactively adapt things to a rule that was probably pretty

blatantly obvious, something that they should have covered beforehand. But until someone figures out how to exploit a loophole, they don't actually change it. Shoes off. And so now it's like a guy brings a shoe and a bomb and a shoe. One guy named Richard Reed wore a shoe bomb on a plane. And now we have to fly barefoot for the rest of our lives.

And that's what's happening right now with the NFL, where it's like, oh, we're going to give you a word that you have to learn now, which is what like motor a taxia or something like that. I think it's the word a taxia is one I've seen going around a lot. It just basically means if you're fucked up, you can't go back in the game, which I think is a good rule

to have, right? But if somebody is able, if somebody is wobbling on their feet, they very clearly just sustain a brain injury, they probably shouldn't go back in the game that day. Now, will they want to go back in the game that day? Absolutely they will because they're football players. And like we said with two, like it means a lot. He doesn't want to miss time.

He's having a great year. He could make himself a shitload of money. He also probably wants to be out there for his teammates and help them win a game because he loves his teammates and he wants to play football. But you have to protect him against ourselves. But now we've reached a point where we've got six guys huddled around the television trying to see if somebody is

wobbly or not. And I don't know what the solution is to all this outside of I think somebody was suggesting putting the mic. It's always a microchips. Yeah. That's the solution to everything. It's like, oh, was that ball day across the goal line? Put a microchip in it first down.

Microchip in it. Is that blood coming out of Daniel Jones's hand? Put a microchip on every player's wrist in case they bleed too much. Oh, is there is a player sustained brain damaging head collisions? Put a microchip in the helmet where they can measure what the impact is.

That's really the only other possible way. But then at that point, if you go down that road, it's like not every single person's brain is built the same way. And their skulls are different, that whole thing. So just because somebody suffers a brain injury at a certain collision rate doesn't mean the other person's going to. Basically what I'm saying is there's no real.

There's a long way of saying there's no way to do it. There's really no way to do it and do it correctly. But I think at some point they'll do the microchip version. This is what we were talking about with Jeff Bezos. They need to develop that brain scanner that can tell if your brain's inflamed. I think that's the only way they're going to be able to do it. The problem with the wobble test is like, if I had a

spotter, I sat on the toilet for too long when I was taking a shit this morning, I wobbled when I got up. You know what I mean? Like my legs were a little, you know, they were a little dead. Like I would have been in the concussion protocol. You sit on the couch for a little too long. I'm wobbly when I get up. So there's a lot of wobbles.

There are other reasons. I wobble a lot. Like Mike McDaniel probably wobbles sometimes too on the side. Yes, right, right. So there's, there's, I just, the arbitrary nature of it. And if like Teddy, it didn't seem like that violent of a hit. And then you lose him for the game. I think that Jess would have won anyway.

They were, they were on fire today. We do need to get Jake, your, like it sucked for you. Yeah, Billy was very classy. Can't say the same for other Jeff fans. Oh no, she got harassed. It got ugly. Billy, do you have to stand out for Jake? There were some things that I didn't think any fan base would do.

What'd they do? Say it. Jeff fans mimicked Tua in the fencing position. Oh. They were, they were throwing up gang signs at what they weren't actually mimicking. It was too fine or came to the office. He was doing that up and down the hallway.

I don't know if he's a jet fan, but yeah. Well, they were looking at me like, where's Tua and then putting their hands on. That's funny. What did you say? That's funny. Yeah, that's funny. That is very funny.

Would you say to them, Jake? It's not very classy. Yeah. No, no, no. You got him. It's not in good taste, but it's objectively funny for like people to just thinking they're owning you because someone got a concussion. Like it's an absurd thing.

I'm not laughing. I'm not saying they're funny. It's like the situation is funny. It's absurdity. It's stupid. It's stupid. Think about it. One guy gets his brain just absolutely mangled on national television.

And now two weeks later, we got fans from different teams basically making fun of each other and, and throwing up like a mimic of his concussed hands. That's absurd. That is like, that is just the perfect encapsulation of the absurdity of football fandom. That's what I'm laughing at. That's funny. That is funny.

Sickening. So Billy, what did you, what did you say to step in for Jake? Well, we had to do a little extraction at the end of the game. Everyone, the jet fans were getting really loud. Billy, you should have thrown them the signs back. Team six right now, like getting, getting. No, I had to do a. Billy's own personal version of Argo.

Yeah. We had to extract Jake from the situation. Because we had to get him out of MetLife because he was, I almost had him taken off his sweater sweatshirt because it was getting, the heat was on. Why didn't you just do the, the, uh, two of signs back? Be like, Hey, we come in peace. You should have just done that. Imagine if that, imagine if a photo of me doing that.

Yeah, that would be really bad. But wait. So Jake, tell us the funny, I saw your tweet. It was very funny, uh, of Billy saying that he's going to be a head coach. Oh yeah. And the first half Billy's like, you know, maybe I'll get into football coaching one day. Yeah, you should.

And then in the fourth quarter, he was yelling at me that they should go for two after they scored a touchdown and put them up by eight. What an extra point would have made it a two point, two possession game. So you, but I want to hack it. Cut, cut, no, no. But the thing was in my head, everyone's like, the thing is so crazy. Why don't we just go for 10 points? Because then they can't beat us with the touchdown in a field goal.

Because if you, they go for two as well, I know it's nine points, then they can score a touchdown and tie the game on one possession. Yeah. So that's why that is, if you were only up eight points, then they could just tie the game on their next possession. No, no, no, but they were up, so they score. They're up eight points. So then if they scored a two point inversion, it would be 10 points or nine points.

Right. I still think. So again, I say, I say again, if you go for two and you miss it, then you're up eight points and then they can tie the game on one score. I know. And one possession. But we're feeling hot. Listen, yeah.

That's what it was. So you're saying what type of coach he was going to be. Maybe he's going to be a Brandon Staley type. Yeah. Wow, boy, shit. Yeah, we were feeling hot. If we were rolling, we should just keep rolling. Yeah.

Like, you know, it was the vibes in the stadiums. They were amazing. You're coaching just on vibe. Oh, Billy would always coach on vibes. He would. They would ask him afterwards. They'd be like, would you think coach? Like, listen, I was riding the vibe.

How sick would it be if Billy was a coach on Halloween and they did all trick plays? Like every, we get spooky with every single play like we would get spooky. Yeah, that would be awesome. Like the ghouls are out, bro. Yeah, that's some NFL coach. That's going to be fired Matt rule. If you're not fired yet on Halloween, just run every trick play.

Just that's, that's all you do with your. Billy was also signing pregame autographs. Oh, hell yeah, Billy. What were you signing? It's boobs. I don't know. They're just like these grown ass dudes were like, sign this. I was like, what am I supposed to say?

No. Oh, I also saw that you guys ran into Dan Marino down at the field level. So we asked for it. What was that like? We asked for him to come back on the show, but what do you say? We didn't get a comment back. Oh, he's like, fuck these guys. Now we were kind of far.

Where was it? He was he was on the field. We were on the sidelines. Yeah. Yeah. OK, we tried. We tried. Did he look like he was I do not think he heard us. Do you look like you would he have passed a new wobble concussion test?

Two cents of it. Oh, was he looking? Was he looking at jittery? I looked like he's going to find I just can't. I can't I can't stop thinking of Jets fans throwing up the two of signs that that's so I mean, that is so absurd and so far. Let's let's go back to the last things in my notes. Take me like that is not right, sir.

That is not classy. Yeah, have some decorum in the fucking 300 level of MetLife Stadium, which is drunk NFL fans. So what do the dolphins do now? Because they've got Skyler Thompson, right? It's tough. Teddy's probably not coming back. Maybe he is. Maybe he's not next week. Do they do they make a call to Fitsi?

I think Chua is going to be back soon. Yeah, it sounds like they're going to be so careful with them. I understand, but I think he will play soon. Yeah, he'll play. He was watching that movie, right? He was watching McGroober. They watch. They watch McGroober on the flight back and Mike Daniel said he laughed basically the entire time. I we were like close to Mike McDonald's.

I was yelling McGroober socks. Oh, dude, fuck you. Groober rocks. I did. I was just trying to chirp him. I didn't really. That's not classy. Yeah, that wasn't I was I wasn't his class. You're Jeff. Yeah. What you just did to me for insulting McGroober

is basically what jet fans did to Jake. So it is funny because the jet fan base, like, they're not good and they've never been good really. You know, they had the two AFC championship games, but that is a scary thought of like Jets fans being good. That's a. And imagine at the same time. Yeah. Imagine the way they taunted me is to go three and two in the second week of October.

Could you imagine if they're good, a playoff team? Yeah, I want to see what I want to see it. Well, they I want to see. I don't know what the next step is, if that's what they got. Karma came to them pretty quickly with the match losing tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of Jets Mets fans. Quick, quick last points. The Jets scored 14 points in 14 seconds.

That's cool. That's awesome. Cool. Yeah. Sauce Gardner got his first pick. He was he's he's so good. He's a beast. So good. And then Quinn and Williams picked up a fumble and stiff arm the fuck out of Tyree Kill. And even stiff arm, he just shoved them.

Yeah, sailing through the air. And it's like, that's your New Jersey taxes. I wonder. Bam. Nice. Got him. Nice joke. Good one, Billy. I wonder what percentage like a win percentage is for a team that gets a safety in a game. I feel like it's high.

I feel like if you get a safety, it's a vibes play. It really makes you feel like, yeah, Billy knows. I'm three points. It's three points. Seahawks against pain, man. Yeah. If you get a safety early on in the game, you're winning that fucking game. Yes. It boosts your winning percentage about 18.4 percent. Yeah. See, that's great.

Considering it's only two points. Yeah. It totally is. It's a big time vibes play. Yeah. But not even numbers wise, like momentum shift. Oh, yeah. You get the ball back. Then you're going downhill. Yeah. The.

Oh, you know what? I just want to grab one of those chicken wings before. Oh, yeah. Grab a chicken wing. Papa John's. Love it, Billy. Jerry O'Connor was right. We should say that too. Priest Hall, monster, absolute monster.

I also like, I'm pretty sure Robert Salah was like, he's been so good. We got to get him a touchdown, which was kind of cool because he was awesome. He had 197 total yards, which is quite the day. Yeah. I think he was the first Jets. Actually, I read that it was the first Jets running back to have over 100 yards receiving since.

Sean Green, Lydani and Tomlinson. Oh, sure. Which is so funny because like, oh, yeah, he was on the Jets. Yeah. He was pretty good on the Jets for a couple years. Yeah, he was. The rookies were quoted on saying, bro, we are so good in the locker room after the game.

You heard that or what? That was reported. That was reported. You said that. No, no. On Twitter, it was reported by, I think, maybe Connor Hughes. But also, you definitely have said that nine times today. Was that actually a documented blue check mark said?

Bro, comma, we are so good. Let's figure out who the Jets are playing next week. Oh, they're playing the Packers at Lambeau. Whose line is it anyway? Do we have a line for that? That is a seven. Hammer the Packers. Seven and a half.

I'd say it's eight. What is it? Six. Oh. Eight and a half. I actually bet the Jets minus 14 and a half. You got to hammer the Packers. So if you have guys saying, bro, we're so good in the locker

room after the rookies, they're going to be feeling it. What is it? What's the line? Whose line is it anyway? I'm still looking for this quote. Oh, OK. Can we get the line? I thought you were looking for the line.

Billy might have gotten ballsacked. Yeah, we need it. Because that is important. If that quote is real, I'm going to take the Packers next week. And if it's not. Seven and a half Packers. Seven and a half.

OK. Wow. Jets, money line. OK. All right. Bro, we're so good. Actually, you know what? They may have not said that.

OK. I think I may have said that to myself. Yes, you definitely said it to yourself. You hallucinated it. You had like a lucid dream. Billy quote. Bro, we're so good. You were in the locker room.

You transported the locker room. It's coaching for your starting. Yeah. Yeah, no, he was just in the Uber ride back with Jake. He was just whispering to himself, bro, we're so good. We're so good, bro. Over and over. Probably texted it to somebody.

Or somebody texted that to you and you looked at your phone and you're like, oh, this is what they're saying. Yeah. Did you guys have fun? Overall? Yeah, it was a great time. Oh, yeah, Rosenblatt. Breece Hall said the hashtag jets rookies.

This is, yeah, Zach Rosenblatt looked at each other today and said, bro, we're so good. OK. Yeah. All right. Good quote. Next up. Hank, Patriots 29, Lions 0, Bailey Zappy.

Bailey Zappy. Played great. Played great. Madra Stevenson played great. Defense played great. Stop. You looked great with the path to Patriot. I don't, I do not know why they ever wear anything else.

Me neither. If they wore those jerseys, they make the playoffs this year. Yeah. They looked, I mean, the logo in the center of the field, the jerseys pop, the helmets pop, Bailey Zappy pops. I've got your swag back. I think so. I mean, it was the number one offense in football.

That's true. And we goose-secked them. But also. No, no, no. Number one offense in football. No, Hank, I fact, but I'm also going to pay you a compliment because I think this also stems back to the fact that Bill Belichick completely shut Jared down

in the Super Bowl. That's probably something like Jared knows Belichick owns me. Right? There's probably an element of that. Like Belichick's like, I drew up the perfect game plan to stop this guy. I own this guy. I mean, the stats would lead to you being correct there,

unfortunately. Which is him saying you're correct. But not saying it. Right. Right. Yeah, I mean, it was a good game for the pay. Billy's happy. Look good.

Here's a crazy Belichick stat from this game. Belichick is now 5-0 with non-first round QBs making their first start. The rest of the league is 30 and 80. So he just is like, oh, let me find this guy who's not right. Yeah, it's a challenge. Yeah, it's like going out hooking up with somebody new. Yeah, 5-0 with non-first round.

Let's see what we can make happen right here. Round quarterbacks. I feel like with the Detroit Lions, they've got some losses that they spin into being like, OK, these are productive losses. Like some losses that are almost wins. Like week one against the Eagles, they lose by three points. You can spin yourself into being like, that's a win of a loss.

This one was a loss of a loss. This one was bad on all accounts for the Lions. We like Dan Campbell. He's funny. I think the Dan Campbell thing is done. Whoa, whoa. Yeah, I think it's done. I think it's done.

No, I think it's done. I think I feel like I've seen the same. Lions fans can tell me if I'm way off. I feel like I see the same thing. You were just saying they're the most fun team in the world. They are fun, but that doesn't mean the coach is good. They make self-inflicted errors every week. They do weird shit.

They were 0 for 6 on fourth downs today, which is the most fourth down attempts without getting a conversion since 1991. And then Dan Campbell, shout out Dan Campbell, by the way, he called all three timeouts under three minutes in the game, which is that's a clown move. That is, down 29-nothing. Can't take him with you.

And then he just goes in front of the media and he says, that's on me. Like, I made, you know, I'm gutted for these guys. I made some mistakes. And then next week it will just be the same thing. They should actually let you take your timeouts with you. Not that you can use them next game, but maybe like you can change them.

You can trade them in for like. Like Zach Morris, just timeout life. Yeah, or you can auction them off for charity. Someone can buy your timeouts after the game's over. I just feel like Dan Campbell leads the league and just doing dumb shit and then getting in front of the media and just being like, that's on me. I'm gutted for these guys.

I got to be better as a coach and a man and a father and a son and a friend. And I'm a humanity and a human. And that's on me, man. A servant of the Lord. He said, he said this week, I believe we've hit rock bottom. It's time to get back up. I don't know.

They might not have hit rock bottom. That was a, there was two games today that was like, oh, it's that old team. It's the Lions and Jaguars. Both those games are like, yep, there's still the Lions and Jaguars. So this is my worry with Dan Campbell was all of his motivational posters around the building that he has are about how to respond to losing.

Like there's not one, there's not one that he has hung up being like demand excellence and murder your opponent. They're all like, the mark of a true winner is he that wipes the mud off his face and gets up from the most painful losses and goes on to fight another day. Like that's the mentality that they have in Detroit because they have been losing football for so long. But it would be nice if you had a coach

whose mentality at least expected to win sometimes and wasn't just about being like the best loser. Right. And maybe again, maybe I'm way off. Maybe Lions fans will tell me, no, we're still fully behind Dan Campbell. I just feel like I've every Sunday is the exact same story of the Lions losing Dan Campbell doing something weird. And then him saying, that's on me.

I got to be better as a coach. No, I'm not I'm not saying you're wrong at all. But when you were saying that you're done with Dan Campbell, I'm not personally done. No, no, no, no, the second they have like a huge emotional win. Like, yeah, I will cry right alongside. Of course, post game comments. But yeah, I think probably every single

Lions fan is sick of his shit. I still love Dan Campbell, the man. Yes, I still root for him. The man, the coach, he might it might be a little the job might be a little too big for him. I think most Lions fans right now are definitely sick of his shit. And I go back to the first press conference that he had when he did the biting of the kneecaps thing.

Yeah, that really kind of there was no biting of the kneecaps in this game. His whole thing back then. This is another like, we're going to be the toughest losers that you'll ever play. He's like, yeah, you might knock us down, but on our way up, we're going to bite your kneecaps off. There was zero kneecap biting in this game. They got they got their ass kicked left and right by the New England Patriots. And I guess maybe the silver lining in this is their defense wasn't that bad.

It wasn't as bad as it has been in the past. That's true. Like one of the touchdowns was because Dan Campbell went for on like fourth and nine and then Jared fumbled and they returned it for a touchdown. So all those points were on the defense. Maybe this week in the locker room, like the defense gets to look at the offense and finally have a week where they're like, you're the fuck up this right. Not us. Right.

That's probably got to feel good for them, right? And it is crazy because, I mean, the Patriots deserve the credit because they shut them down. But the Lions had scored in 11 straight quarters to start the season, 15 out of 16 quarters. And then they got shut out. I mean, it's it's it was crazy. It was you kept on watching it, being like, OK, so the Lions and the

Andre Swift is out and Amon Ross, Sam Brown, I think is on like a pitch count. So there's you could point to a couple of injuries, but that doesn't really that doesn't my problem is this was an same old Lions loss. Yeah. 29 nothing is the same old Lions loss. And you felt like you were moving in the right direction and then you lose as a favorite at home to the Seahawks. And then you lose 29 to nothing to the Patriots with a first time starting quarterback. That feels same old Lions.

That's where I was like, oh, this might not be good for Dan Campbell right now, because it felt like there was a little bit of progress to start the year. And now it feels like they're back to what's going on with this team. And your last coach is now the assistant offensive coordinator of the team that just beat you. Although I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked if Matt Patricia left some sort of listening devices in the Lions facilities. Yeah, it seems like something he would be up to.

Yeah, he had to factor fiction, Hank fiction. Uh, Browns, Bears, Jets, Colts. Those are the Patriots next four. Oh, what do you think is a good record out of those four games? Say it again, Browns, where is it at the Browns? OK, home at the Patriot, home against the Bears. Yeah, Sunday night football or Thursday night football. It's Monday night football, Monday night football at the Jets, that life.

No disrespect. At home versus the Colts. Why do they keep putting the Bears in prime time? Dude, I'm not joking. I do think there's someone in the NFL offices who is fucking with us. There's no other explanation for the commanders and bears. Big mark night. And then the no, but I know, obviously, the Bears are always

got prime time games, but you can't tell me it's a little weird that commanders bears play Thursday night and the next Bears game is Bears, Patriots Monday night. That's a little weird. That's a little weird. I think that's all I'm going to say. That's a little weird. OK, so that's a little narcissistic, but it's also a little weird.

It might be narcissistic, but I think that at some point, it's weird. At some point, the league office, when they scheduled the commander's Bears Thursday night game had to be like, well, at least the part of my take guys will talk about it. They're counting on us to market. And you know what? They're right. Yes, they're right. We're fucking sickos and all we care.

They can ask us to jump and we'll say how hot. All I'm going to say is where I saw the Bear schedule come out and I saw those two games prime time back to back. I was like, that's weird because the bears. Oh, and coming off the heels of the couch pole. Right, right. They're fucking with us. They know what they're doing. But say it again, say the three, four games again.

Browns win. Bears. Just say all four. I want to I want to hear. Browns, Bears, Jets, Colts. You if you go three and one, if you go less than three and one, then the season is over. Agreed. If you go three and one or four, obviously four and oh, but three and one, I think the Patriots will be fighting for a playoff spot.

I think you might lose to the Colts. The Colts are so stupid. They're so weird. They're so weird. They're so random. They're very so random. So random. Speaking of crazy prime time, the Patriots have four straight prime time games later in the season. That seems like, well, maybe they'll be there. It's crazy. Thankfully, the Bears.

Bailey is playing QB. The Bears are done with prime time games after the Patriots Monday football game. So that's thank God. And we only have. I think we only have three more Broncos prime time games to go. So that's this month. Yeah. Um, yeah. So the Bayley Zappy, maybe a guy.

I feel like Mac's going to come back and they're going to play Mac and it's going to suck. That's my. You're already done with Mac. No, but I like I like Bailey like the new guy. He's going to have a short lease when he comes back. Like really, like if he has a bad half, all the Bailey stands out there are going to be like, let's go.

Let's get let's get Zappy back in. Do you think that's the way the Patriots just have to win? They have to just waste, not waste, because Drew Buzzo was a good quarterback, but like use a first round pick on a quarterback just so they can get the backup guy to then come in and win all the Super Bowls. Yeah, whatever gets it done. I mean, and I think Drew Bledsoe and Mac Jones are a little bit different.

Mac Jones is what the fifth QB in his draft taken. Still a stud, but it's not he's he's Baker Mayfield. Yeah, Justin Fields. Wait, so Justin Fields wasn't. Yeah, I'm confused with your analogies right now. They are they were higher. They were top five draft. So you're saying this was not a top five draft.

Put it to me in NBA terms. Baker Mayfield was number one overall. So where's the Justin Fields? And I want to figure out why I'm mad at you personally. Who is LeBron? What number draft was Justin Fields? I think he was 11 or 12. He wasn't a top guy like Mitch is what you're really trying to get at.

I apologize. I apologize for the Justin Fields. He was 11. OK, my bad. I thought he was top 10. No. So does it make him a little bit better now? Yeah. OK, thank you. I don't even know where we got here. Yeah, Hank, who's more of a guy, Zappy or Mack?

Today, currently, yeah, as it stands right now, Zappy Meal or Big Mac? I give me Zappy Meal. Yeah, he's your new toy. That was fast. That was one week. I know. That was one week. Look how quickly you turned your back on your guy. I'm not turning my back. I'm not turning my back.

I knew when you were talking about Mack Jones potentially being a guy that you weren't even believing it. 30, like that was one of the worst playoff games of all time last year. It's like, dude, Justin Fields has like like 15 completions this year. And I'm like, I still got his back. I have nothing against Mack Jones. I'm just right now. You're got flavor of the week is Bailey Zappy.

No, you know, I'm eating. You turn you turned your back on Mack Jones. Mack Jones. No, I love Mac Jones. Mack Jones is you love dinner with Mac Jones and Bailey Zappy. Walk by with a big ass and you're like, see you. I'm out. Did did Belchick let Zappy throw it? Was he like airing out or was it 17 or 21? Yeah. OK. He had a nice touchdown pass.

And his only pick was like the receiver's fault. Yeah. So I feel, yeah, I feel like Mac Jones, when he was in, it was kind of just like hiding Mack Jones in the office. He was like he was afraid of Mack Jones. That was still the same. He was afraid of himself. Still that vibe with Zappy. Yeah, a little bit down for a little bit.

But I feel like it's it's more relaxed than it was with Mack Jones. Zappy is a way more exciting last name than Jones. Yes, that's a fact. That's a bit. If they actually if they switch. They switch names. I probably go back. Yes, Bailey was fun to bet on in college because his name is Bailey Zappy. And you like even if you lose, you're like, but I bet on Bailey Zappy. Zappy roots. Yeah.

Western Kentucky, right? Yeah, Western Kentucky. Lid it up with those silver helmets. All right. So yeah, I Patriots back, Lions. I'm just saying I'm rooting for Dan Campbell. But man, though, I think it was really with the three timeouts that I was like, oh, that feels desperate. Twenty nine, nothing.

Well, he's three timeouts to get the ball back. He's looking to get reps. That and he's going to get a live rep. You can't practice live reps. Right. He would like, I bet you his own team kind of rolled their eyes at that one. And they're like, what are you doing, coach? We just got our ass kicked.

He's like, no, we never we never quit. He also said that no stone will be unturned this week. I think he also leads the league in turning over stones. Yep. This is something that's on me every single week. He's I'm going to look in the mirror. It starts with me. It ends with me. It starts and ends with me.

And I'm going, no stone will be unturned this week. So he's evaluating whether or not they need to practice longer or practice shorter. Yeah, he's going to figure that out, whether they should have more pad time or less pad time also. So basically, he has no fucking idea what he's going to do differently this week. He's just going to try to do something different. I just searched that's on me in quotes. Dan Campbell and 828,000

results. Yeah, that's on me, man. The first man, I'm going to figure it out, man. Dan Campbell saying that's on me isn't enough for the Lions. Yeah. So he says that's on me a lot. It is on him. Hand up. That's on me. It starts and ends with him. Yep. So if you've got a problem, come see him. He's a guy. And you know what?

He's going to get it figured out because I'll tell you what, there's nothing that means more to him than getting this thing figured out. Right. He's going to turn this thing around. I could actually write such a kick-ass Dan Campbell speech. It's probably like 30 seconds. I'd give you 200 words. It's mad libs of just repeatedly saying that you are the problem, but you're also going to find the solution.

Yeah. By being in, you know, on top of the problem. Listen, I know how bad I am at this job. Right. And so there's no better person to fix all the stuff than the guy that's done all the stuff that's got us in this. He should switch it up and just be like, that's on those guys. There should be. Our guys suck. So no joke with Dan Campbell.

I think he he's he does a great job of firing people up, right? And his team loves them. They play hard for him. But in terms of like day to day, like day to day stuff, he's OK. But tactician stuff on Sundays, they should just have a different coach to coach in the games. Yeah, like have Dan Campbell be on the sidelines, like head cheerleader during the games, director of morale or whatever you want to call him

and then have somebody else that's smarter, make all the play calls and in game adjustments and then the team gets turned. It's like, you know, it's like a weekend. It's like a weekend, dad. Yeah, I was just saying, you know what they call that? They call that the offensive line coach or the tight end coach or the strength and conditioning coach. Yeah, that's that's that's perfect. Yeah. So I don't want it to end for Dan Campbell. But this was the first time I was like, those are the same old line.

Yeah, Dan Campbell is a good. He's like a good day to day parent of that team. But for some fun on the weekends, bringing bringing the stepdad. Yeah. So Lyons fans, tell me if I'm way off, but I feel like I'm closer to the truth that it's starting to get tiring. OK, before we get to the next game, Shopify, forget the offseason work. Shopify makes it simple to sell to anyone from anywhere. Whether you're selling warm ups or wall hangers,

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OK, so Jake and Hank both left to take poops. Jake went to take a poop before this recording started. And then he just left again. This is two poops. Jake has a problem. No, you're just trying to be not the poop guy anymore. I'm just calling it as it was quick the first time. But Hank, I'm calling us. Did he not leave the podcast twice?

Well, Hank might have gone home. He's like, we talked about the Patriots. I'm going to go home. True. OK, next up, Bill Steelers. This was a wamping. This was a like early September college football game. When you one of the bygames, when an SEC team brings in a Mac team,

Steel, Bill's 38 Steelers three. I'll start with the Steelers real quick. Mike Tomlin was asked afterwards if he was satisfied with the effort, he said, satisfied with the effort, we got smashed. What are we doing here, man? So he at least is very much aware how bad his team is. He also said, eat this.

Don't run from it. Don't blame it. Don't try to avoid it by any means. Sinking it, basking it, feel it. Eat it, sleep with it, eat this. They are a very bad football team and they miss J.J. Watt, who silently got like knee surgery.

That doesn't feel good. J.J. Sorry. Yeah, CJ, CJ, CJ Watt. This is C.J. Watt. That's the fourth Watt brother. The fuck? We're at midnight now, so I'm starting to lose a little. Shout out to Mitch, though.

Mitch is one and all at coin tosses since he got benched because he's still going out there as a captain, which is weird. But the Steelers, they don't they don't change anything. I feel like this offense that they're running right now, they don't have like a playbook. Well, back in Canada is bad. Yeah, they don't have a playbook.

They have a constitution in Pittsburgh and it's been the same way for like the last 15 years. Doesn't matter who the coach, like Cowherr's offense to me, like when he was a coach of the team, those offenses looked exactly the same like the same plays that they're running right now, except football has changed a little bit in the last like 15, 20 years.

I think that I feel like the Steelers just don't change how they do things. No, it's it might be time to maybe fire your offensive coordinator because you've now had three quarterbacks in the last, I don't know, 10 games. And the heat map looks exactly the same every single time. And we thought it was a Ben Rothesberger thing,

but Matt Canada's offense is basically the heat map is just straight lines along the sidelines and then a bunch of passes right along the line of scrimmage. It's like it's it looks like an upright and that's you'd never even attempt to pass in the middle of the field. Under any circumstances. And yeah, the Steelers, they don't do I don't they don't do anything well.

Blame Canada. Yeah, I like that. Blame Canada. And I hear it's just he's great at one yard runs. Yeah, our friend Jersey Jerry said that Naji Harris is officially calling him a bust. Kenny Pickett, I feel bad for Kenny, friend of ours. That's that's an unwinnable situation when you're playing behind that offensive line

and the defense that is just getting absolutely mauled every game. So I don't know, he had a lot of yards. I thought that I like that he got into a fight. Yeah, that that's good. So it kind of deflects because this was a wamping, a full sale wamping. But at least Kenny Pickett tried to punch a guy in the face. Yeah, I because that's what the discussion is now. And his teammates had his back too.

He got hit late on one play. They were all in their face and his teammates had his back. You like to see that. Yep. So yeah, Steelers, very bad, might be the worst team in the NFL. Did you know that the Steelers don't have any wide receiver touchdowns? This year and they have wide receivers that everyone can name because all we hear about is the Steelers wide receivers.

Deontay Johnson, George Pickens, Chase Claypool. What's going on? Yeah, doesn't make sense. Gabe Davis had the Randy Moss stat line today. Yeah, he had three catches for 170 yards, only two touchdowns, not three. But the first like this game was over before it started. It was awesome. So Josh Allen, 98 yard touchdown pass to Gabe Davis ties the longest touchdown pass in Bill's history.

Do you know who was the other one? It's very fun. It's a very fun combo. Well, last time you asked me at Bill's, it was it was Ryan Fitzpatrick, but that's not the answer this time. This time, the answer is Rex Grossman. It was I don't think even play Kyle Horton. It was Ryan Fitzpatrick to Oh, Tio. No way. Yeah, that's a fun combo.

That is like that's one of those ones I looked at it. Normally, I don't really care. And then I was like, oh, yeah, Tio was on the bills. But Josh Allen was incredible. I think it was pretty windy there. And they're just like, Josh Allen has a rocket arm. Let's just fucking fuck it. Let's throw it as deep as we can, and he will get it every single time.

They could have if the bills had wanted to, they could have easily scored 60 points. Yeah, they took Josh out of the game. It's got to be so demoralizing if you're the Steelers. You have for once like a decent defensive possession. You get them to like third. I think it was like third and eight, third and nine. They're on their own two yard line.

And then Josh Allen throws the ball 98 yards over the top and it's a touchdown. Yeah, and it was a total get right game for the bills who just came off two games where they like their offense wasn't as explosive against the Dolphins and the Ravens. And I always give credit to teams like what the bills did today when you play a team that's that bad, like Steelers, you should want. Yeah, don't fuck around, kick the shit out of them

and have your backup finish up up the fourth quarter. But that that gets points in my book where you don't toy around with these teams that you're so much better. For the first time, maybe ever, Mike Tomlin's on the hot seat. They don't they do not like her. Mike is what they're mediocre. Mike, they don't like Mike Tomlin and mediocre. Mike and they've like Steelers fans

have gotten the pitchforks out before for Mike when he's gone like nine and seven. Right. He's had a couple of those seasons where they didn't play up to expectations and they're ready to fire him. He's stuck around because he's obviously he's good at something or else he wouldn't have had the record that he's had. But this team stinks. I think he's a good coach. I think they're probably the Steelers pride themselves

on like never changing coaches. I think one of the had like five coaches or four. It's crazy. They've had Chuck Nall, Bill Cower. Let's see. I'm going to look at Mike Tomlin. Yeah, it's probably somebody before Chuck. Yeah. And that's probably it. They could they pride themselves on having that continuity. But there definitely has to be a point

where it's just the same old thing and you got to change something up. They got to change the name of the stadium back. Yeah, they I'm not even going to say the name of the company that is now. It's Heinz Field. It will always be Heinz Field. If Bain called it Heinz Field, then I'm going to call it Heinz Field. OK, so they had some coaches way back in the day. But in the Super Bowl era, they had Bill Austin for two years. Chuck Nall, Bill Cower and Mike Tomlin.

That's it. No one in between. Yeah, Chuck Nall and Bill Cower. So from 1969 to 2022, they have had three head coaches. Yeah, that's insanity. It's like it's better than being a Supreme Court justice. It's crazy. I'm shocked that Jeff Fisher. I haven't figured it out yet. Who do you think's up next?

Because I think they will fire or at least I think they'll fire Mike Tomlin if they don't go five hundred. Well, they won't fire them. They'll let him retire or they'll let him like move into the front office. Yeah, he'll retire because they treat him well. Like he'll he'll retire and then he'll be like coaching another team. Because remember Bill Cower, he floored it with it for a long time. I think he still does every now and then he'll retire

and then he'll come back somewhere else like five years. He's young and he's a good cook. It's like there's always in the off season, one private jet that is landing Raleigh Durham Airport. And then people are always saying that's Bill Cower. Right. That's where he lives. Right. Right. So yeah, the Steelers are very, very bad and the bills are very, very good.

And Josh Allen is awesome. He was he's the third fastest quarterback to get to one hundred and fifty touchdowns only behind Merino and Mahomes. Pretty good company. Good list. So Merino it took or sorry, Mahomes, it took 60 games. Merino took 61 games. Josh Allen took 66 games to get one hundred and fifty touchdowns.

He is so fucking good. Yep. And I love him so much. Also a little fun fact. The two coaches used to play on the same college football team together. Yeah. Mike Tomlin and Sean McDermott played at excuse me, at William and Mary together for, I think, one season. And would they say that like Sean McDermott, like tackled Mike Tomlin a few times or something like that?

Yeah. They didn't really overlap that much, but they tried to make it seem like they had a rivalry there. Yeah. I wish they had the only thing, the only complaint I have with this game other than not hitting the over is I wish they had tried to go for the passing yards in a single game record because Josh Allen had three hundred and forty eight yards at half. And the record is Norm Van Broklin with five hundred and fifty four yards in 1951, crazy that it lasted that long.

I'm always shocked when I hear that stack, because I'm like, certainly Patrick Mahomes is thrown for like 600 yards in the game. Right. But the thing is they get usually a player will get taken out of the game like Josh Allen got taken out of this one. He probably could have gotten 600 yards today. Who do you think is number two? Norm Van Broklin was number one. Yeah, I think it's Norm Van Broklin.

Number two also, I think he had that hell of a season. Matt Schaub. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I just looked it up. I mean, I'm not I didn't know it. It's not trivia that I knew. Matt Schaub in a forty three thirty seven win against the Jaguars. Yeah. What was that? Two thousand and twelve.

Yeah. That's fucking awesome that Matt Schaub. What a legend. Yeah. Matt Schaub. Number two all time. He had a great season. He's number one in the Super Bowl area. He's tied with Warren Moon. Warren Moon also had five hundred three sevens. So Warren Moon and Matt Schaub tied for the record in the Super Bowl era.

But I just that's one of those games like it was three hundred forty yards in the first half. You don't even just call like a couple more deep bombs in the second half. So you'd probably break if you're up 38 to three. Just go go four verts every time and just basically run a Hail Mary every pass. Yes, just try to get the record. Why not get the record? OK, next up Vikings Bears Vikings 29 Bears 22. I don't really have anything to say other than like Justin Fields played pretty well

and he had a chance to maybe win the game with a drive at the end. But it fucking what's his name? Marseille was trying to get a couple extra yards and just care careless with the football. I don't know. The Bears were down twenty one three. It felt like it was we blinked and they were down twenty one three. Kirk Cousins was on fire to start. Justin Jefferson is he's the best receiver in the NFL. He's so fucking good.

And I was happy the Bears fought back. They showed fight. Well, they stole this one from Justin Fields. His own team did. Yes, it was nice because I thought he had a chance. He played well enough to win and he made some cool throws and had a couple of nice scrambles and Marseille. Yeah, Marseille had the block in the back that called back Justin Fields, like 40 yard touchdown run, and then he fumbled.

So and he used to play for the Vikings. So some are saying maybe he was a spy, not me, but it is fucked up. But yeah, I I don't know. I didn't expect to win the game. I wanted us to be competitive. I thought it was one of those games where the game started and I was like, oh, no, it's going to be one of those days. So the fact that they fought back into it and Justin Fields looked OK.

And like his receivers are kind of letting him down here and there like drops. I I walked away being like, OK, I didn't expect to win it anyway. And he looked better than he has pretty much the entire season. This is also the first time since the the start of the London Games, where the winning team from the London game has come back and won the following week in America. Oh, the first time ever first time ever. So it has happened where there's been a buy, because sometimes you get a buy

after coming back. But if they don't take the buy, they always lose that next game. So the Saints and the Vikings, both Saints and the Saints. Saints and the Vikings both won. Yes. Right. Yes. Yeah, they both did it without a buy. Yeah. That's impressive. That's really nice.

No, no, no, no, no, sorry. The team that won the London game. OK, comes back. They never win. Got it. The following week, unless there's a buy in between, then I feel like until like a year or two ago, there was always like a mandatory buy. No, you can you can choose whether or not to take the Vikings and no, no. Interesting. Yeah.

That is interesting. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. A little quirk in the schedule. Yeah. But that was by far, Justin Fields' best game. He had 15 completions. That's a lot. That's a lot of completion. Are the Vikings the kings of ugly wins?

Yeah, I still don't believe in them. I think I'm just like I said, just Jefferson's the best receiver in the NFL and Kirk Cousins. We all have we've talked about him ad nauseam. But yeah, they feel like there's something to be said for being for being able to win ugly, though. Yeah. And they certainly are like that's one thing that you can say about the Vikings this year.

They've won some games where it's like how how and why. But it's not ugly. Like we'll get to the Eagles game. That was a winning ugly. The Vikings win ugly by letting the other team get back in the game or like starting so slow. They're like, what's going on? Self-inflicted. Right. Yeah, it's it's it's not like a one.

Oh, this is going to be just a hard game to win. We've got to find a way to like scratch and claw. It's like the Vikings are always in games where they're up to a big lead and then they let the team back or they just shoot themselves in the foot in the first half and they come back. So yeah, it is self-inflicted, afflicted, ugly wins. Yeah, but I was I'm we don't do participation trophies,

but I'm happy the Bears participated today. They did a good job and also tried really hard and I walked away not feeling so bad about myself in the fact that I like all my happiness is tied to Justin Fields, the quarterback. Yeah, and also just put in perspective like Brian Robinson got shot two weeks ago. Yeah, true. Some things are better

and more important than winning a sports ball game. Again, if you're talking about like what is expected from Justin Fields, what's more impressive? Josh Allen throwing for what? 348 yards in the first half or Justin Fields having 15 completions. That's four more than he said than any other game he's had this year. That's almost double than the other three games. That's that's almost doubled his lateral completions from last week.

His completions so far this season are eight, seven, eight, 11. And then today he went off. I don't think it's 15. It's not possible for Josh Allen to double his completions. Correct. Over a week. 15 is a monster game for my guy. You guys both lost, but it seems like the bears you're riding high and the commanders you're riding low

going to match up on Thursday. I'm not high. I'm not yet. No, I'm definitely not running high. No one's high. You got rid of your straw. No one's high. No, I have one more. Who I cut my straw and have how many straws are. Hank, I cut my straw in half and then I threw away my half straw. But now I have the other half for my straw.

I have one straw left. PFT has a clown car of straws. I know they just keep coming out of the car. I got one straw. Are you OK, Hank? Yeah, I feel like you've been sick for three weeks. A couple of weeks. What's going on? I don't know. I think I don't know. It's gross when you talk.

It is kind of. I know. I'm trying not to speak. I'm saying what everyone is thinking. Yeah, no, it's fine. It's fair. And also the sound that it makes when you talk to. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Thank you, though. And the words.

That's what, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I just won't. No, no, I keep talking. I like what Hank's trying to. Hank gets one win against the Detroit Lions and he's back to his old like you think that you're still riding high off six consecutive Super Bowls right now. You're like, oh, look at the little commander.

Did you hear my speech by the Bears fan? But Justin Fields, 15 completions. That's loyalty. You're already fucking Bailey's happy on the side. It happened like that. You wish you could have Billy's happy on the bears. I do kind of wish I was happy. No, I'm not riding high.

I'm riding baby steps. It's baby steps, Todd. Not going to win a lot of games. Try to show some growth. I think steps. I think this Thursday, America is in for a treat. It's going to be better than last. It's going to be guaranteed that way.

I guarantee that it's better than way better. Carson Wentz will have three 60 yard completions and probably two fumble sixes. All right, ready for this? Record this, turn on the cameras. Justin Fields is going to have 17 completions plus. Damn, that's an insane game. Let's check out the odds on that.

Seventeen with the overall loss. Seventeen plus. Wait, are you counting interceptions as completions? Yes, yeah, yeah, obviously. Have to. And fumbles. Lost. I think Carson Wentz is going to have two fumbles lost

where nobody touches him. I like it. That's what I say. Like, like just doing the thing that he does where he looks like a cat when you throw a firecracker into the room and just panics and throws the ball backwards out of just sheer, sheer terror.

Yeah. And just so everyone knows, like the Colts Broncos game suck because the offenses suck, but the defenses were also good. Both of our defenses suck. So we're going to have fun. It's going to be fun. Yep. All right. Next game.

One fun thing that happened at the end of the commander's game I forgot to address. Montez Sweatt couldn't play in the game, our best defensive lineman. Maybe him and Jonathan Allen. Montez Sweatt, great player. Couldn't play for the last snap of the game because he had already done an autograph Jersey swap

at midfield with a player on the Jaguar. So he didn't have his jersey anymore. So he couldn't get into the game. I thought that was awesome. Yes. That was a very fun moment. Yeah. Not the Jaguars, obviously, but the point still stands. Yeah. OK. Next up, Bucks, 21, Falcons, 15.

Oh, man, did the Falcons get fucked? That roughing the passer call sucked. That was do you think that was the worst call in NFL history? I feel like we've had that. I think it might be the worst call in NFL history. I think we've had that though so many times. Like there's one roughing the passer call a year, usually on Tom Brady.

Yeah. That is like, how is this how is this possible? This is why you sign Will Compton, if you're the Falcons, because Will Compton is not strong enough to ever look like he's assaulting a quarterback. Right. So you're never going to get the violent calls. Yes. Jerome Boger was asked afterwards his explanation. He said what I had was the defender grab the QB

while he was still in the pocket and unnecessarily throwing him to the ground. That is what I was making my decision based upon. So just tackling shouldn't happen anymore. Yeah. Like what I what how can you see that and say that wasn't just a routine sack? Well, Big Cat, spot to lie.

Like Jerome Boger just officially described what playing defense is. Right. And tackling. And said out loud and said out loud that this is against the rules because did you see he grabbed him and tried to throw him onto the ground? It it was crazy. It was absolutely crazy. Falcons fans have every right to be pissed. Bucks fans.

Stephen Shabian, like, well, the play before was a fucking pass interference. Shut the fuck up. That was roughing. The passer call was the worst call I've seen in a very long time. It was bad. It was it was a very, very bad call. Tom Brady does get those calls because he looks so so frail sometimes

as old age. The Bucks look pretty good, though. They looked OK. Their defense isn't what we thought it was early. Like they should have though they should have fucking jam the ball down the Falcons' throats. Like Coral Patterson wasn't playing today. And if you're going to act like you're a top three rush defense in the NFL,

like you need to shut them down. Yeah, it should have been a it should have been a thorough ass kicking. And it was. They just kind of let him back into it, which that is just what the Falcons do. They're now five and all against the spread when when they're dead. They're not. It was 21, nothing like in the third quarter. And then it's like, oh, the Falcons scored.

That's cool. You think they scored again. Oh, that's Calvin Ridley's betting on these games making bank in the office. Yeah. He's basically making what he's losing in in paychecks. Yeah, he's like, I know exactly where I'm putting my money this weekend. No, they they the the Bucks like basically carved up the Falcons for the first half, three quarters.

And then, yeah, the Falcons snuck back in the back door and could have won the game if it weren't for that call. Tom Brady, now 11 and all against the Falcons. Ready for crazy Tom Brady stat, which he just accrues all of them. This one, this one is wild just because I never even thought of this as a stat. Tom Brady today had more than 50 pass attempts. He now has 23 wins, both regular season and playoffs, in which he has attempted more than 50 passes.

That's crazy. The only the next QB with in terms of most wins when attempting 50 passes or more has five. Twenty three to five. And so I looked it up and I was like, that's this stat doesn't mean anything. I'm just curious, right? Tom Brady's 23 and 12 when pass when over 50 pass attempts. Peyton's four and 13.

Rogers is three and six. Breeze is four and 15. Rottlesburg or four and 11. Marino five and 11. Basically, everyone sucks when they have to pass over 50 times. Tom Brady is 23 and 12 when he has to pass over 50 times. That's so stupid. That is crazy.

The next best is five. It is. Warren Moon has five. It is crazy. Tom Brady has 23. Because at the end of games, Belichick would always use Tom Brady like as an extension of the running game because he was going to he was going to make the smart decision,

throw a short pass, get a quick completion, keep the chains moving. It was basically like as secure as a handoff. Right. Would be to have Tom Brady throw like a seven yard out. And you think like, oh, OK, yeah, this stat makes sense. If you ask your quarterback to do that much, it's probably because you're behind. It's probably because you're struggling.

No, he would. Twenty three wins. Yeah. Here's another crazy stat. Another Tom Brady wild stat. Hank, you will appreciate this. How many years do you think that it's been since Tom Brady lost three games in a row? Wait, are you trolling us? I'm going to guess 2002.

Yeah, you got it. Good job. Good job. We trolling us. Yeah, we're struggling. OK. Yeah. Or were you did you forget we talked about on Friday? No, I forgot that we talked about it. Yeah, I was going to say you were going to do your parody law.

We're everyone knows he's genius. But like that was either it's crazy stat. I am a genius. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you are. Thank you. That was the joke. Yes. That you were joking because we already had said it, but you it was on top of it. I met it. It's meta shit.

I don't I don't forget. I don't remember what we talked about like five minutes ago. Yeah, on the show. That was why actually Hank switched his pick. Yeah. And he got fucked. That's right. Yeah. The three losses that he switched it. So sorry, Hank.

Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. I forgive you. Maybe give me a few more words. Billy, do you know when the last time I'm not speaking? No, I'm not speaking. Billy, when was the last time Tom Brady lost three games in a row? Two thousand two. OK, I got one. But I didn't hear the Friday episodes.

I actually enjoyed that. Oh, yeah, because you were here. Yeah, I was saying it for Billy. You're saying for Billy. But yeah, Billy, how did you like fantasy Billy's? It was hilarious. You guys really hit the nail on the head. Yep. Sick win, bro. We're so sick, bro.

We're so sick, bro. The only other thing I had on this game is I was just it was a thought that popped in my head. I think we talked about in the gambling cave, but Leonard Burnett, like there's never been a player recently who has changed his reputation so much from the Jaguars. He's a bus Jaguars fans didn't like him. And his numbers weren't even that bad with the Jaguars, too.

He is now like Tom Brady's most trusted teammate. He just dump dump offs all the time, gets the hard yards, has a Super Bowl ring, playoff, Lenny. He's the man. And he promised us touchdowns and he scored touch. I'm pretty sure I remember like two years ago when Mitch was bad, you were convincing yourself, at least he's not the biggest bus in the first. Yeah, you're like that was bad on the Jaguars.

I have to go back to Solomon Thomas. That's that was that was the worst pick in that draft. Obviously, you can just change. I did try to do that. And I was yeah, he's completely changed his narrative on his career. I've still a winner now for giving Leonard Burnett for the whole like Blake Bortles has bad breath thing. Yeah, I thought that was a little bit out of bounds.

That was that was messed up, but it's it's just a great lesson that we will not actually like embrace the lesson. But I'm just going to say it anyway, that so much of sports and a guy's career is time and place. Yeah, which, of course, again, we're not going to actually use this lesson that I've just said out loud and and use it for like future players that were like that guy's a boss. We're going to say it. We're just going to keep saying he's a bust.

But in this one moment of clarity, it's like, oh, yeah, you forget how much time and place change the complete trajectory of a guy's career. Yeah. And so like in Leonard Burnett's case, he went to Jacksonville. That offense they run like Jacksonville has a franchise, zero stability, not a history of winning anything. Very easy to say, oh, this guy sucks. And then who knows? Like a couple years later, he goes somewhere else.

He's actually a good player. So let's go to the Jaguars game. Trevor Lawrence is a bust. Yes, huge bust. Bust. He is a fucking bust. Back to Jaguars. Trevor Lawrence stinks. OK, so Texans, 13 Jaguars, six.

The whole time I was watching this game, I was just mumbling to myself any time I ever get excited about the Jaguars, someone needs to just fucking come into like punch me in the eye because they are the Jaguars. That was such a Jaguars game. They actually dominated the Texans. They've lost they've lost nine in a row to the nine in a row. They've been to an AFC championship game more more recently than beating the Texans in the regular season.

It's crazy. They I don't even know what's like they just. They're such a frustrating team. I still think that the Jaguars are better this year than they were last. Yes, they're they're they're miles better than they were. Trevor Lawrence, probably not a bust, but he he made some bust adjacent throws today. No, he every time they he would just like throw it either a miss. Basically, his two throws are overthrow a guy down the sideline or try to missile it in and then have a Texans cornerback reach up their hand and block it.

And that was it. And it was they moved the ball. They had four hundred and twenty two yards. They scored six points. That's hard to do. Yes, pretty bad. That's really, really hard to do when you think about like a football game, how many possessions happened in an NFL game and being able to move for four hundred and twenty two yards and only get six points out of it. Yeah, that's very hard to do. Take skill. Shout out, Damien Pierce. Yeah, I think Damien Pierce,

PFT's official eyeball player of the preseason. I think if you were to do a poll right now and say who is the offensive rookie of the year, Damien Pierce might win. He's had a good season. Trying to think there's a receipt. No, what about Drake London? Drake London's been OK. Johan Dotson has a few touchdowns.

I'm not up to date on my rookie of the years and how they're going. I think they I think Damien Pierce you caught me in a I don't have enough you're not prepared for that conversation. Yeah, I'll take your word for it. I'm prepared for it just because I want to seem smart by identifying Damien Pierce as a potential rookie of the year guy. I think he's you know what he is, big cat. He's in the conversation.

Dude, he's a he he broke yet. He caused 13 missed tackles. Yeah, he's a monster, which is the most this year by any play. Just running through people. He absolutely that that last run when he chaps are good friends. He's going to be on a Wednesday show for roasts. Get in your roasts on the iTunes. Subscribe, leave a roast.

We'll read it. Chaps was like thank God he didn't score because it just would have been like it would have been a mini March on Lynch in Seattle. Yeah, touchdown because he was just ripping through guys. They could not tackle him. Yeah, he's a monster. This was I mean, it's a good time as we identified. Garrett Wilson and Chris Alave, too.

Yeah, Alave is OK. He's in the conversation. He's absolutely in the conversation. Absolutely. And also in like weeks one and two is Rex Burkhead getting either half or over half the touches. And now finally, Lovey's like, OK, probably because when we interviewed Lovey, we told him to give the ball to Damien Pierce more.

Yeah, he's probably like those podcast guys know what they're talking about. That's one of those things though, that we whenever we make a declarative statement, then the the fans of each player or team will be like, how could you guys forget Chris Alave? How could you forget Garrett Wilson? How could you forget Traylon Burks? Like, OK, so here's me remembering him so you don't have to tweet us. OK, I do think I do think that Damien Pierce is going to get better

as the season goes on. Agreed. I think he's going to get more touches and he's just a beast. He's fun to watch. And if you're a Texans fan, this is a great time to be a Texans fan. You don't even have to watch the games if you don't want to. This year, really, you can probably take the rest of the year off. You know, check in here and there. Don't win too many games, though.

This was such a lovely game. Oh, they're not going to win, too. Don't work. They do not have to worry about winning too many games. They're going to win at least one more game against the Jaguars. Yeah, they're going to beat the Jaguars. They're probably going to get another tie. They're probably going to tie the Colts again, beat the Jaguars, end up. What would that be? Two.

Thirteen and two. Sounds right. Is that right? Sounds right. And then they're going to end up getting in a position where they can draft a good quarterback. You have cap space out the asshole. You got picks all day. You got picks all day. The next five years of being a Texans fan will be fun. Yeah. And shout out lovey for just lovey balling the fuck out of the Jaguars.

He was just like, I'm going to punt until you guys make a mistake. You punted from fourth and one from Jacksonville 49. I love that. Like he was like, I'm I don't trust Trevor Lawrence. I'm going to punt it back to you and see what you guys do. And it actually just played out that way where it was like he just kept on punting and then Trevor Lawrence would make a mistake or I think they had a couple fumbles and then finally they're like, all right, we got to have one drive where we score.

They scored. Now it's game over. That was it. And and Trayvon Walker, that that penalty was stupid. That was I don't know if you you saw, but he they blew they blew the play dead so off sides and he came and just fucking smashed Davis Mills. Like it would have been unnecessary roughness if the play had been alive. And it wasn't. It was everyone had stopped running and he just like body slammed him and they were just OK. Why would you do that, dude? I'm looking it up right now. It was I can find it was a very bad penalty.

Lovey Smith's comment on the personal foul on Trayvon Walker. They have rules. Yeah. No, it was. It was what it was like, dude, what are you doing? I think they were just frustrated because they should have been winning the game. They their offense had 422 yards and couldn't couldn't score. It didn't. Trayvon Walker also had a roughing the pass or penalty in his very first play of his very first game. He might have. I mean, he's a good player, but that that was one of those ones.

It I don't want to say it cost him the game, but it was third and 20. And so they would have gotten the ball back. It was a tie game and he had it happen. And then, yeah, things didn't really work out here. I got it for if you want it. There we go. So it was very dead. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then he just chokeslammed.

Yeah. And there's a lot of neck to choke. Yeah. With Davis Mills. Well, it's kind of like entrapment, isn't it? Yeah. If you're going after him. Like where else was I? Stephen Smith, the provocation was there. Yes, exactly. Yes. His neck was just sitting there and no one was save hermetically.

If I if I try to like punch Davis Mills anywhere on his body, chances are it's like 70 percent of the earth is covered with water. Yeah, like 70 percent of Davis Mills is covered in neck. Yeah, I'm going to hit you. You're going to hit a neck. OK, let's do the last three games before we do that. Piazza, you've got a couple of ads for us and then we'll wrap up. Yeah, before we start wrapping up, I want to talk to you about Coors Light.

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in 21 straight games, which is crazy. But we have a new streak and that is the one we have alluded to as well. Matt Rule and the Carolina Panthers are now 25 games in a row where they have not won if their opponent scores over 17 points, one in 27 all time as the Carolina Panthers head coach. He's 11 and 27 as the head coach. He's probably done soon. So I think Tepper made some comments.

I don't know if this is Florio just stirring the pot. I don't think Florio would ever do that. Nope, but he's he makes it seem like Matt Rule could be fired as early as tomorrow. Right. And this was a firing type of loss because they've been building to it. I feel like the Panthers have been like. You have to have a signature loss like that to really motivate your owner. Right. Right. And they've been crescendoing to that loss and this one, the Niners,

like they did it all. They were like, oh, here's a long drive. Here's a pick six. Here's like, you know, we'll just do it all. We'll do it all in your face. We'll run it down your throat. Jeff Wilson will run it down your throat. Then we'll pass it and then we'll sack Baker Mayfield and every Carolina Panthers game looks exactly the same where it's just run the ball on first down for nothing, usually incomplete pass on second down.

That's like, I don't know, 10 yards down the field. And then third down, it's a dump off to Christian McCaffrey. And he basically has to make a play with five defenders surrounding him. And then his hamstring falls off at the end of it. Yeah. You just look up to a Panthers game. It's like, oh, there's Christian McCaffrey with five guys about to fucking just absolutely destroy him. And he's got six more yards he's got to get. Yeah.

And then he gets it sometimes. It's sad. It's sad to watch Baker is now in a walking boot. So he might not play next week. I don't think we know what the injury is, but P.J. Walker time P.J. Walker time because I think Sam Darnold is still on the mend from being Sam Darnold. So P.J. Walker, who's not bad, I don't think he's a bad quarterback.

He's not good, but he's definitely not like the worst backup quarterback correct. So he'll get in, but it might also be a case where they're going to fire Matt Rule and then Matt Rule can have his pick of the litter between Nebraska, Colorado. I don't know. He's it's getting so bad. He's a good college coach. I know, but he can always you can always go back once. But I don't know if he can go. I think he might have to go back a step.

Auburn. Auburn fans are really bad about that. Also, he's fired. Yeah. Yeah. But he'll have to probably go back a step to go to a big boy school. It's my guess. I don't know. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe everyone's going to be lining up.

But this is now getting it's getting so bad that Tepper actually, and I think it's mutually beneficial because if they fire him now and a college team hires him, the buyouts, buyouts, you got to get, you got to get that figured out right now, because Matt Rule can't sustain more blowout losses. This thing is piling on him. Get that buyout less. Let him get a job in college and this relationship.

I was it is bad. I was going through the list of coaches on the Carolina Panthers because you always have to identify who are we looking at for an interim coach? Can we win a game? There are there are two guys that jump off the page to me. Give them to me. One is not an interim guy whatsoever, but he might get the gig. Been Macadoo. Oh, yeah.

So I want to see I want to see Macadoo back as a head coach, patrolling the sidelines with his grease back here and his and his sunglasses. I want in his suit that's seven sizes too big. Yeah. Do you remember the like snow pants suit that he wore that time? He looked like he barred his. Yeah, he looked like he borrowed his dad's suit. It was first day of work.

And I still choose to believe that for whatever reason, the door to his office that he had at the Meadowlands was like 30 percent. The size of him. He had a weird tiny door that people had to crawl through to get into his office. Smally or whatever. Stuart Little. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So just for the comedic value, I would like to see Ben Macadoo and his. You know, lockstep on the whole look of him like he has

$60,000 worth of toy train sets in his garage. Fastest two minutes as well. Yes, exactly. That would be nice. It would be easy. Yeah. And then Steve Wilkes. Oh, is also a former head coach of the Cardinals for like one season. Yeah, that real blip blip on the radar. Yeah, they they fucked him, I feel like. Yeah, he got fucked. Yeah, I think he got fucked.

He got fucked hard. Yeah. Because they they were like, oh, Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah. So it's probably going to be one of the two of those guys. I hope it's Macadoo if those are the two choices just for the comedic value. Here's a stat that really makes me mad because I wish we were just kind of doing this all along. The Carolina Panthers since October 1st, 2021 are three and 16 against the spread. They're not only bad, they're bad.

They're bad in every metric. They're bad in real life. They're bad in gambling life. They're bad when a team scores when a team just gets to 17 points. They immediately just hit the lose button. They are just so bad. Got to end it. They just make you feel bad. Yeah. Watching them.

And it sucks, too, because their their their uniforms are still cool. Yeah. And it's like such a waste. They are. Yeah. Like when you see when they play against the Cardinals, which seems like a weird matchup, awesome, awesome. Seeing those two teams on the field, even though it's a bummer to watch them play and the game itself isn't cool. Seeing those two uniforms going to each other. Fun. Seeing the 49ers play against the Panthers.

Yeah. Aesthetically, it looks cool if you ignore the complete contents of the game. Yeah. And this should have been like the ultimate trap game for the for the 49ers. They're coming off a Monday Night Football game short week going all the way across the country. And it wasn't even close to it. It was over ince. I mean, it was over before half because they got 17 and a half. Yeah. So, yeah, it was over.

Then over the 49ers. Is it time for us to be talking about how Jimmy G is just a winner? Dude, I he wins. I mean, I thought the minute he came in was like the 49ers are definitely a Super Bowl contender now. Yeah. Like their their defense is awesome. Dude, he beat the Rams. Jimmy G got that win. He beat the Panthers.

That's another win for James G. Tamiko Ryan is going to be a head coach next year. And he's going to be a good head coach. Yeah. I like Tamiko Ryan's awesome. People forget how cool he was as a linebacker, too. Yeah. The name Tamiko Ryan's is just awesome. Like that to me. So if we've always said that NFL owners,

they should hire me and Big Cat to just look at their coaches. Yeah. And just be like, is this guy working? Like that rule would not have gotten a second interview. No. If me and Big Cat had been involved in the process. We would have kept Dan Campbell as like the strength and conditioning coach. Raw, raw guy. Yes. Or like hire somebody to fire every year and have Dan Campbell take over the team and then crush it as an interim guy.

With Tamiko Ryan's, I'm giving him from my side of the table. I'm stamping him as will be way, way, way, way, way above average head coach. I'm going to double stamp it and I'll go one further. Tamiko Ryan will be coaching in a playoff game within three years of getting a job. I think Tamiko Ryan's is going to win coach of the year. Wow. How about that? We're hyping him up. He is kind of like what Dan Campbell, the best version of Dan Campbell,

because he gets his guys so high. Yeah. And the Niners, I think we said it last on Wednesday's show because we were coming off the Monday football game. Their defense is, you know, a defense is good when a guy catches like a screen pass or a dump off and there's six guys immediately there and they're all ready to tackle. It's like they all get to the ball. That's a good look. It looks like a snuff film

when somebody catches a ball again. Right. No, it does. It's like violent, but like in a beautiful way. They like show up instantly. They're like, we're going to beat your fucking ass. Yeah, it's like like a bunch of birds going on a carcass and just tearing it apart. Yeah. So yeah, there you go. We just gave you the next best coach in the NFL. Fuck, what if first reported by part of my tape?

Remember this conversation? What if he becomes a commander's head coach and I just absolutely juice the fuck out of it? I wanted to be the bear's head coach when we were looking for coaches. No, I top my list. I like D'Amico. Yeah. I like D'Amico. Love to say the name. OK, it sounds Italian. It does vaguely. Yeah. Is it? Shadow Nunzio. He's back.

Yeah, Nunzio. Can't keep him. No, he's back. Cowboys Rams. Second last game. The Rams got some serious problems. Yeah, serious. So twenty two, fifteen cowboys. Their biggest problem is Micah Parsons.

He got nine pressures, three hits, two sacks, forced fumble. And that honestly didn't feel like that stat line. Did him justice for how he was playing today. And he also was playing with a hurt growing the entire time. Yeah, like he almost came out. I need to have time. I was like, what the fuck is he going to come out of the game because he was limping very badly.

He was on the on the bike. Everything comes back in just an absolute monster. This felt good to because I was heavy on the Cowboys. It's like, how are the how are the Rams going to block the Cowboys? And it proved that maybe I know a little bit about football because they didn't block the Cowboys. Matthew Stafford was sacrificed times. Couple couple defensive like this was also.

Let me just say this. This is also the game that the Cowboys needed where Cooper Rush didn't win them the game. Yeah, well, they need that they need the bridge game because they won the game. But if you watch the game, if you if you look at the score and you're like, oh, Cooper Rush, five and always a starter. Is there a quarterback controversy?

This was the perfect game the Cowboys needed because if you watch the game, you know that it was a fumble scoop and score to start the game. Instantly, the Cowboys were up and then they blocked a punt and scored a field goal off that their defense was swarming. Like this wasn't Cooper Rush lost you the game, but he did not win. Cooper Rush had 10 winning completions

for 102 winning yards. Right, right. He's a fucking winner. Big cat needed this game. He's he's five and oh, you got to keep dancing with a guy that brought you as far as I'm concerned, if you're the Cowboys. I do want there to be a quarterback controversy. I want Dak Prescott. Nothing would make me happier

than if Dak Prescott came out in the next game through for 442 yards. Three touchdowns, one interception that was a pick six. Yeah, and the Cowboys lost by five points. I would love to see that because then you'll have people being like Cooper Rush would have won us this game is a winner. It would have been awesome. Yeah, this was a game that this was the best case scenario for Dak and the coaching staff and Jerry Jones, because you know,

he secretly obviously loves Dak Prescott because you not only win and you have a good record now. What are they? Are they your three and two? Are they four and one? Have they not lost and not lost in week one? Yeah, I haven't lost in week one. And Cooper Rush is only, I think he's the 14th quarterback to start five and oh, yeah, his first five starts. I think the last one might have been Jimmy G. It's crazy.

Another winner. He's a winner. Yeah, he's a winner. But you needed this game because you you keep your team winning. But you also are like, OK, that was good. We survived this game, but it wasn't because of Cooper Rush. It was because they're they're rushing attack. Tony Pollard was electric and their defense and special teams. Right. I think Jerry Jones likes Dak Prescott, too, because he's paying him money. Yeah. So Jerry Jones likes guys that have a lot of his money.

Right. So like Ezekiel Elliott, even though a lot of times he might not look like he's the best running back on that team. Jerry's always going to keep going back to him because he has a lot of Jerry Jones's money in his bank account. Right. Yes. So Jerry looks at those players as an extension of himself. Yeah. So the Cowboys are good. They just are there. I had some some Eagles fans getting mad at me, Max, because I was saying

the Cowboys are good. I'm just admitting it. I have to be unbiased. They are good. It's the NFC beast. It's the whole division, basically. And the Rams are in trouble. Yes. They are. This is the first time Sean McVeigh has been the coach since 2017. This is the first time they're under 500, which is crazy. It's how good of a coach he's been. But this is actually officially like, OK, maybe panic a little.

Thankfully for them, you know who they have next week, the Carolina Panthers. So that they will win that game by a lot. And then they have to play the Niners again. I think they have a bi-week in between. But I even think like last week was the first time that Sean McVeigh was at 500. Since they had one year where they were like three and three. I think the year they went nine and seven. OK. So. But yeah, it he's never his team's never been under 500.

Like he's he's a great coach. And this is a problem. I don't know if it's entirely mental with Matt Stafford or if there's something physical going on, but he made some real some real bad throws. Oh, he's definitely hurt. Like he missed. I think he was his name. Scrawnick. I never know how to pronounce it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it.

The other white guy. I know. I know who you're talking about. So you got it. Yeah, it was he threw the ball like three yards behind him on a crossing route when he was wide open, not have been more open. And it's just like an easy five yard pitch and catch. And then he threw that deep ball that was perfect. Yeah, like, OK, what's something something weird is going on. Matt Stafford to two out.

Well, great name. Yes, awesome name. Yeah, but the Rams, I'm if you're a Rams fan for the five Rams fans that listen, get the six, please, to listen as well. Panic button. You think you're pressing it? Yep. I'm pressing the I don't think so, because you can see that the the walking, living,

breathing embodiment of the panic button, the Carolina Panthers that's true next game. You can't you can't truly press the panic button if you know that you've got Carolina. You've got to want them. You've got to want the hell out of them. I think you've got to win by by 20 points. Yeah, a 20.

It would instantly get you back on the right track. If you might have to alternate line spread on that and just be like, yeah, Rams by 20. Because I must want otherwise they're dead. And then they have some tough games. They're playing the 49ers, Bucks and Cardinals in a row, which are not easy. But I would hit the panic. I'm saying panic button because they have they're the Super Bowl champs.

They have super. They want to go back to the Super Bowl. Obviously, if you're like panic button, will they go to the playoffs? I think they probably will still go to the playoffs, but panic button. This isn't a Super Bowl team. Oh, definitely not. Yeah. OK, last game, row back game. Use code take for 20% off your first purchase. They make the best performance Q zips and hoodies,

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It's a good win. Gritty win. Wins a win. I don't it looked ugly at times, but sometimes you got to win like that in the NFL. Yeah, sometimes you got to win like that in the NFL. Max was so emotional at the end of this game. He was he was standing up like yelling almost like you. You were mad at somebody somewhere for disrespecting the Eagles. I don't know if there was an actual person you were upset with,

or it was just the general thought that somebody out there might have thought that the Eagles might lose to the Cardinals, but you were like mad. Oh, yeah, you were you were so happy to fight someone. Yeah, yeah, the Philly definitely showed up. Philly was showing. It's like, Max, put your Philly away. Put a code on. I know. Well, this is like the first game you guys have.

I mean, we've just dominated every game. So I've been pretty cool, collected, you know, just watching my game. But when it gets into it, I get pretty intense. And I say things that just come out of my mouth, and I don't know. And I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, you blacked out. Yeah, I think you were saying like, fuck you. Yeah, just so the world, everyone, yeah, which I love.

Like I love the passion, Max. And it's where I tightrope walk this game. I had the Cardinals first or sorry, the Eagles first half Cardinals game. And it went exactly that way where the Cardinals did exactly what they've been doing every single game and just coming out so slow. And then Kyler Murray starts making plays. But we should talk about Kyler Murray situational awareness. Zero point zero.

Wearing that suit. That suit was so bad. Kyler Murray is so obsessed with video games that he's now wrapped himself in a green screen. Oh, he's going everywhere in it. It's he it was like a combo of Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Michael Scott wearing the female suit. Harry Styles, Harry Styles like a absolutely ridiculous like Nickelodeon Gack.

Thankfully, I went I went because I did the research. We care about the listeners here. We do research before these shows. I went and I made sure I found his press conference. He did it in full pads because I was like, if he gets back in this suit. Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't get back in that suit. He got he did the press conference full pads.

But what I'm talking about end of the game. Cardinals are driving. They have a backup kicker, I think, right? Because I think it was Matt Amondola, yeah, which is he was the kicker, I think, on the Jets. He's been on three teams this year, which is not a good sign. No, week five, your kickers word should be getting around about this guy. It's not like we live in the 1800s.

Carrier pitch, where somebody moves from town to town and just swindles the new town. Right. These games are on television. Yeah, he's the jack kicker. You do not want to have a jack kicker on your team. It's like hiring a skinny chef. Right. We're going to fly. He's just got biceps, just the biceps a little bit.

All right, good. Because I was going to say Joey Sly is awesome. I like Joey Sly. Yeah. But Matt Amondola is in like his body fat is way down and his muscle definition is way up. Steve Weatherford. You should not be doing that as a kicker. Nobody wants to see that. You don't you don't go you don't put money on a Quaker boxer.

OK, like it's the same principle. You want your kicker to be a little fucking nerd. Yeah, you do. You want him to be really skinny and just have a big fucking leg. But Kyler Murray and a game they're driving. He they get a first down spikes it because they have no timeouts left. Second play he runs slides. He's short of the first down thinks he got the first down spikes it again,

which is now third down. Then you got to kick it. There's 20 seconds left. He could have run a couple more plays. Twenty seconds left has to kick it. Forty three yarder, which should be made in the NFL. But again, like we said, this kicker has been on three teams. Misses it horrifically and the Cardinals. They're just we just got to keep doing this.

We just got to keep betting against the first half and then and then have them for the game because they they they do the same thing every time they come out so slow. And then they're like, all right, fuck it. Kyler start making plays. So people pointed out that Kyler actually slide canceled if you're going to put it in call of duty terms. So he he popped up real quick.

Who starts their slide like two yards before the sticks? It's crazy. And then gets up and thinks that you had a first down. No situation, no situation awareness. He did have a couple of design runs for him, which I've been saying, like they need to call these running plays for Kyler Murray and use his legs a little bit more. If you're the if you're the Cardinals right now, if you're a Cardinals fan, are you bummed out

that Kyler is going to be your quarterback for the next four years? Yes. I think you might be a little bit bummed out. I guess, you know what? You have to wait till Deandre Hopkins comes back. I that if you're a Cardinals fan, that's all you're doing is saying once Deandre comes back, different team. He basically Deandre Hopkins has put the entire weight of this franchise is on his shoulders.

Like, because I know that that's definitely being talked about. Like when we watch the hard knocks, like Deandre is coming back. We're going to be good. I can't wait to see Kyler Murray in the green Hillary Clinton suit on hard. Oh, incredible. It's going to be so awesome. He's probably going to be talking about how like fashion has become really important. So yeah, you just can't you can't lose when you wear that suit. You have to win the game. Yep. You have to win the game.

We're going to say Hank. No, come on, Hank. Hank. Come on. Hank. Say something that I remember what you said. Hank. Hank. Hurts the listeners ears. Go ahead. Go ahead. Just clear your throat. Throat. And you'll be fine. No, Kyler makes exciting plays. He does. Yeah.

So if I was a fan of the Cardinals, I would I would be fine with it. Would you? Yeah. He makes a lot of bummed out plays like he bummed. Kyler Murray bums me out. Well, the Cardinals just perpetually live in third and long. They're always turning long and and Tyler has to do something awesome and he does a lot of times Yeah, and people are saying like I shouldn't hate on him because he's another short king This is nothing to do with him being a short king and I even though he did turn his back on the 5 9 community by claiming

He was 5 foot 10. I think never been done by a 5 9 guy never ever I'm 5 8 and I claim that I'm 5 9. I'm not 5 9 claiming. I'm 5 10. That's out of bounds That's too far way too far But Kyler Murray just bums me out when I watch him play because he doesn't seem like he's having much fun No, and even when he does something electric here. He just kind of like seems relieved Unless he's going to the stands and assaulting a fan. Yes, and dockage put it. Yes, but no, he doesn't I guess sometimes He'll he'll seem like he's happy with what he's just done But I want a quarterback who's that electric to at least look like he's having fun out there. Yeah, he does look bummed out

You're right. You're absolutely right. Oh Big important note if you're in Philly It's free frosty Monday. Oh, so this is very important the Eagles They froze the Cardinals out of the end zone in the first quarter and when they do that I think everybody in Philly gets a free frosty. So it's a Sixers thing In the second half of Sixers games if the opposing team misses two free throws It's the frosty freeze out and then they just brought it over to football this year It was really big with the Sixers, but now it's perfect. Let's go for the Cardinals

They can't score in the first half. Yeah, so Philly go to stop what you're doing right now Go get your free frosty frosty for the Eagles though. This was like grinded out game, which I they did Obviously, you just want to win every game by a million points But it was nice to see them do it this way where the deep passes weren't really working They ran the ball well, they Jalen Hertz had 13 screen passes 12 for 13 for 70 yards screens. So I was Like walking away from that game being like good tough win. You need the tough wins Yeah, tough win every now and then and now they got the big game against the Cowboys on Sunday night next week

Can someone who's who's better at understanding quarterbacks explain to me like just exactly how Jalen Hertz Improved so much over the last couple years because he's awesome Well, he had a couple plays today where I was like this Yes I I'm a full-on believer that Jalen Hertz is gonna be a good quarterback for a long time I think he has definitely improved, but he's also gotten a lot of good players around him He does but I mean AJ Brown and what was he was passing it to what Nelson Nelson Aguilera and and Jalen Rager He's now passing AJ Brown Devonte Smith. I think that helps. It does a big help. It does, but he's also just better

No, he is His his growth is a quarterback. I'm just also saying He's got a lot of talent around him and they look like a complete team I'm trying to find what and I think Nick Siriani like we said this last year at the end of the year He pushes the right buttons with with this offense like he's doing the right thing where Jalen Hertz is running Even the goal line. There's like fuck it Jalen Hertz Go ahead rushing it like we were just we can block up front and you're a big dude and you could squat a billion pounds You get the push you score a touchdown. Yeah, that was one thing that was insane that you don't see often is that

Like Mack from Always Sunny had this take on Twitter today Is that they just did quarterback sneak four times in a right? Yeah, they're like we need four yards to get in the end zone So we're just gonna do quarterback sneak four times. It's like why doesn't everybody do that? That's why I like Nick Siriani. He's like, let's do the play that works and It's sometimes it gets a little more complicated with that in the NFL But sometimes it's like you get a coach who's like let's do that that touchdown play Which is just going forward with your fucking quarterback who again can squat 7,000 pounds I think that as dumbasses were actually way smarter when it comes to things like the quarterback sneak

Yeah, don't overthink it like teams should always run quarterback sneaks on fourth and one or third and one or second And yes, they should run it all the time. They should do it every single time But if it's too obvious you can get the Troy Palomu Yeah, but that's also that's he's also a Hallfamers I know but he was literally the only person in the NFL that was capable He means you've done it, but like if it becomes too obvious, that's what's gonna end up happening Okay, then the Eagles literally did it three plays in a row I know but like it was so obvious that they were doing it every single really you can run your offense

How you want to run your office? You're also talking about like as a hypothetical safety you're talking about that because you would jump Well, I actually didn't pop Warner. Yeah, you would on tape. I'll find it. He's got great instinct for sure I want to see Billy jumping the line is like a seven year old Like Brian Dawkins to go and he ends out like Wolverine. I think some kid who doesn't want to be there Yeah, I was playing outside linebacker. I stunt it in and just went a gap and jumped the sentence Yeah sick play Remember bro, we're sick, but uh, yeah

Okay, so like for example my imaginary offense where I'm calling quarterback sneaks I should be careful for an imaginary Troy Palomalu or Billy football But are just Billy in a wig no But like if the Eagles keep going like if they do that like next like later in the season people are gonna know But you're also forgetting the part that Jalen Hertz is like not your prototypical quarterback Right that he is insanely strong and get a push himself right. He is afraid train, right? But like that, you know don't do it Matt Ryan, right? He'll get crumbled but crumpled still you you're still gonna run into someone who's gonna try to stop

I think Billy we could have gotten you drafted in the NFL. You just worn like a curly wig Yeah, like a really long hair coming out of your helmet You would look so sick and if you got like the the Samoan type tattoo the Polynesian tattoo on your arm Billy is right. He's a big yeah, if you write it if you run it all the time someone would stop it true Also shout out Jason Kelsey because did he come back in he did come back in he's a dog Yeah, I mean he's the definition of a dog. Yeah, but going behind him also helps because yes Yes, yes, and he was hurt and he's a dog and he He's he like it would take a lot to get him out of a game

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That's you you said it. Would you put in an envelope? I? Put it was a flattened football cuz it was deflated Yeah, would you put it in and I put it in a manila envelope just a manila envelope? Yeah, and you just wrote bills on the front One bills way Buffalo, New York is every team How much postage or an orchard park? Postage was like wait. I like over did it Or orchard park ice. I don't think you Know you're lying. I'm trying to get the bills be like, oh, we lost it. We gotta send one

So then I don't actually have to send it. They're like, oh, we must have lost it. We got a sudden one bill So we lost some poor bastard in the bills Freaking hammer and nail into a football It's a JJ watt for some Sitting in a basement fucking office, and he's like he's got his bills polo on he's listening to the show right now Being like what we got a football Billy football for the Billy football. Hopefully. Oh, no, I send it out But do the right thing bills. Yeah, you got it or if you didn't that means you misplaced it Right, you lost it. Yeah, Billy football did the right thing by by

Saying that he was gonna send it. It's up to you now to find it or make a new one Well, you can watch Billy's face turn red as he gets caught in lights. It's one of the things I find the most pleasure in a manila envelope. Yeah, and it's a buffalo So our first nominee for football guy of the week. How many times how many throws do you think it would take you to get to Buffalo? Like throwing a football. Yeah, we should do that. I wonder if Tom Brady's career passing I'll look it up while you do this is is far of here to Buffalo First nominee is defensive tackle from Oklahoma State Brendan Evers who did a media day And the guy just had blood all over his face and when asked what was up with his face

Why would there was blood all over he said that time of the month? Well, he was just a Tuesday practice So that time of the week. Yeah, our next nominee is Mike Leach He's been nominated multiple times, but this was on his take about coffee when asked Mike coach leach What you like to put in your coffee? He said nothing coffee shouldn't taste good. I don't like coffee. I just drink it for the effect Just very you know football guy move. That's like hammer nail He that's what Dan Campbell said two things. He doesn't like flavored coffee and tobacco. Mm-hmm wants to taste So the guy's just that that's actually sign of a psychopath too if you like black coffee is it? Yeah, I like for some reason black coffee is fine. Yeah, I only put cream in it. Sometimes it's too hot

Hmm our third study that says that something. Yeah, you're Billy. Just look at Billy's brain says it Third nominee is a fan from the Vikings game who's just totally decked out in Viking tattoos. Yeah, and he had this mask on Pretty metal looking, but he just had all Minnesota Viking tattoos his whole body It looked like a like a full sleeve, but on your whole body It looks like you know how back in the day hundreds and hundreds of years ago art was meant to like Memorialize actual historic events that took place It was like their way of making a textbook or writing a book his had like various victories that the Vikings have had one had like clay Clay Matthews like decapitated on his arm from a certain game where they beat the backers. That's pretty cool

No, it was pretty sick. The only thing I looked at him and I was like I don't want to know too much about this guy or his personal life because kind of Weird vibes. Yeah, I'm gonna say hmm and then our fourth nominee is a Florida man who put on a helmet and Hopped into a scrimmage with nine-year-old youth football players. He wasn't a coach But he suited up and he just that feels apparently was this Jeffrey Epstein Yeah, his name was a pencicola man. Was he like laying kids out? I he was and he's been arrested. Okay. Yeah, um, I Sick

You know, I didn't know if like child abuse should you know be a football guy move. Yeah Yeah, I mean disqualify most football. I think lots of football coaches could also be qualified as a child abusers Yeah And just I kind of want him to win so that JJ has to send that guy football. Yeah Yeah, so this guy basically hopped in an Oklahoma drill with nine-year-olds. Oh, that's yeah, that's yeah But kind of just funny add story add. Yeah, hopefully doesn't win, but just thought oh, yeah, that will definitely not David Taylor Charge with cruel you're getting a football bro, and we know you love it and he's probably an AWL. Yeah, and Honorable mention

British football guys was the guys chanting shove that cheese up your fucking ass. Oh, well. Yeah, those guys were yeah the best All right, so I looked it up Tom Brady's career passing yards would get you to A Middletown, New York. Oh really? Yeah, do you know where that is? Yeah, roughly 250 more miles to go Wow. Yeah, he's he's throwing 49 miles Whoa, that's pretty crazy, but not as wild. Yeah 49. Whoa 49 miles. How far is the moon? 55 miles away. I'm pretty close around ish Give or take so if you were to drive if you were to drive a Corvette directly up into the sky

You get you one hour to hit the moon easy. Yeah. Yeah, as long as it's not traffic. Yeah Okay, good job Billy football guys of the week go vote now. All right last up Who's back week brought to you by our friends across country mortgage? You have to live somewhere might as well own it unless you're more interested in paying someone else's mortgage It's a good time to buy when you're ready to buy So if you're not ready to buy right now, you can still talk to cross-country mortgage CCM listens understands and communicates throughout the entire loan process Provide more loan options tailored to your financial capabilities Faster closing time than the competition stable monthly payments and low to no down payments

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Internally as an organization correct letting that get leaked the fact that Dreymond did it in the first place thinking He can just punch a teammate in the face as hard as he possibly can without squaring up first It was a sucker punch. It was an absolute sucker punch. He was looking at him. He pushed him He was looking at that's not exactly Push the push that Jordan pool did that happens every practice Reacting the way Dreymond Green did as a veteran. I wouldn't call it a sucker punch So it was a sucker punch. No, but no sucker punch. You're not looking but like he didn't square up It wasn't like all this punch is coming. He basically like he didn't give him a chance to defend

I don't think you didn't punch them. You can't do a Superman punch and have it be a sucker punch I can't do it right in your face. It was a sucker punch Dreymond Green's a sucker Jordan pool put his hands on Dreymond Green first So once you put your hands on another man, then it is broke the code. Yeah, then it's open season Like those those Jets fans today that were doing the two of signs and Jake's face if they touch them Oh, it's a good one. I fucked them up. I was like imagining doing that to another Jets fan. Yeah, I don't know Just yeah, you're doing the Mark Wahlberg thing. Yeah. Yeah, if I would have gone Touched him. Yeah, we've been over that much. He's coming out every time now

I still can't believe they were doing the two of hands. That's so funny. I always try not to laugh. Yeah So so Hank I I do disagree that I don't think it was a sucker punch. I think it was a Kind of a dick move. I think he's a dickhead for doing it I also think I think that a certain extent like the whole world is content now. So Dreymond probably is like Absolutely raking it in on its podcast based on people that are listening to his description of what happened He's taking a time off the whole he's taking time off of the podcast. No, he's taking time off from the Warriors Oh, yeah, yeah preseason. He's taking the preseason off Yeah, like listen, we should get into fights with each other way more frequently on part of my take

I think like the most successful YouTube clips are like part of my take almost breaks up because Hank calls big cat a fat fuck Mm-hmm those sorts of things like controversy does good for the podcast game I think in the back of Dreymont said I was doing he's looking to get into fights left and right knowing boom subscriptions And yeah, and he can take some time off He's like this deep cut But he's like CT and the challenge when he when he's bashed Adam sculling on the first day because he didn't want to be there Yeah, I don't know though. I think this is something that it's gonna be hard for them to get over as a team I don't know if they're gonna be able to come together. Yeah

This is probably for them. It's it's probably the worst thing that's happened to a team in the offseason, right Hank? Yeah, that's what I'm saying It's for sure by far the the biggest story from my NBA finals team. Mm-hmm. Yep. Absolutely. All right, good Who's back? He should be suspended for how many games you guys think you're retroactively last finals? No for this upcoming season. I think it's just internal. So like Probably the preseason. Yeah, it's kind of like when the Rams had the whole Aaron Donald thing happen It's on them to take care of it It's like a Bobby Bowden suspension where they'd be like you don't get to play the first quarter against like Samford

Oh, he probably dream on was like, oh shit. The Celtics got Blake Griffin. I don't I want to get the fuck off this team now He's gonna lie to me up play great me on Celtics. It's just the gift that keeps on I know I see your Instagram stories It's delightful. It's like I you know because I fall like Peyton Pritchard and stuff They want to the BC game together. They're throwing out t-shirts to the fans. It's beautiful. Yeah, you like that It's beautiful. I love it. Okay, somebody asked me to comment on Blake the other week You know Blake being in the news and everything. I was like, it's if you're Blake It's probably sweet He probably used to watch games of the Celtics all the time on his computer and was like man

That'd be sweet of like I can imagine myself Playing in that game and then now he actually gets a chance to do it After all the fantasies that he's have about maybe playing and putting on that uniform for the Celtics in the past Yeah, I think it's pretty cool Lot of banners. Yeah, a lot of rings a lot of banners Pft. Don't let Billy chime in. He's gonna it'll make it worse. Yes Pft. Who's back? My who's back of the week is James Madison University. Yeah ranked. We're ranked They ranked the dukes to do dogs. He did it congrats

Conversation was had the ranking was awarded. That's basically this basically my national championship. You got it first year five games into playing an actual FBS schedule and James Madison is now ranked 25 in the nation So I'm just basking the glory even though that we can't play in a bowl game, which as we've said is bullshit. Yep So if we do go undefeated, I'm going to declare that to be a national championship. Have to have to claim it Your hands are tied my hands are tied like JMU is right now. We are positioned to win a national champion Yes, absolutely. I think we'll be favored and just about every game. Maybe not at Louisville, but Who knows those things in Louisville stinks. They might not have a coach. It's Duke's year. Yeah, let's go. Duke's hell. Yes

Okay, my who's back playoff baseball Pretty fun first weekend. I love the new format We got to see the Mariners make it to to DS series first time since 2001 Which they needed that like it would have sucked for the Mariners to be Celebrating going to the playoffs have no home playoff games and not actually play in the ALDS You had the Cardinals such a shame Such a shame that Yachty and Pujols go out that way with an all-time meltdown on Friday and then zero this course zero runs on Saturday

Yeah, oh Man, that's tough. That's brutal I think that the blue jays meltdown is got to be up there in all time all time collapse That was pretty bad. That was bad. That was bad But I think if you're if you're looking at the Astros are obviously like the best team in the American League I think people are like, okay, they're fucking wagon But from a karma perspective Would you say that the Mariners are the complete opposite correct of the Astros like everyone's rooting for the Mariners, right?

Like they're a nice fun team of oh except Hank except for Hank. Yep. Hank's the hater. Mm-hmm I have a Mariners future. Oh, do you that's worth what for them to move? Yeah, no, that's that's a very lopsided who America's rooting for and then the Guardians in That game went on forever It was like what it felt like seven hours all Saturday afternoon and then of course the Mets with If you I mean I assume all Mets fans are saying that was a meltdown because the last week and a half has that was the definition of a meltdown They were a hundred-win team in first place all season couldn't win a single game with both their their aces in Atlanta then have to play the Padres and

Scherzer's definitely hurt and old and they lose Like didn't even have a moment. There's nothing like one hit losing and having not a single moment To cheer in the game that you lose. Yeah, it's tough Scherzer has always been like that in the playoffs where host start out it takes him a couple innings to settle in he was hurt He's he's Definitely old his back is fucked up and when your back gets fucked up at an old age Every other part of you starts to break down pretty soon thereafter It was tough. Why did the Mets? Is this am I getting fake interneted on this that the Mets did the trumpet?

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah when they were down there were down six nothing Yep, then they all they needed to get out of that inning and they did the trumpet thing we down six nothing We called this we predicted it when Timmy the trumpet night happened in August We were like that was a really cool sports moment. That's a cool story, but If they do it in the playoffs and they either blow a game or they do it when they're down They will get made fun of you can't do the trumpet thing when you're down six and they went out so sad checking Musgroves ears, which like his ears are very large and it was just an all-time What the hell is baseball doing when the umps came?

Had a little talk and then went and did like to find the quarter behind your ear trick to him like rubbing his ears and Like that's the saddest way to go. I mean that's went out such a sad way in buck show alters defense Musgroves got some pretty shiny. Oh, he does. No, he definitely there's a shiny and oily He's got oily ears and buck show alters probably he was probably just trying to get in his head a little bit Yeah, so literally like go feel this man's ear. Yeah, get get your hands wet William So there was someone online who was saying that a lot of pitchers actually put a little bit of tiger balm That cream on their ears. Yeah red hot Andrew McCutcheon. Yeah, Andrew McCutcheon. Yeah, it's like because it helps them lock in When pitch. Oh, yeah, so it was so weird. Yeah, I could I totally believe that beasing their eyelids

Yeah, yeah, so I could see that but you know, there was a substance But I think not a substance that they were it was just sad. It was a sad way for the Mets to go out and now we have That that's the best part about this first weekend that like baseball credit to baseball We we criticize all the time This was a fun weekend and then now you have like the whole week where you get four games in a day It's Tuesday four games. So let's go how the Yankees feeling Phillies and Yankees would be a fun World Series for this podcast. Hell, yeah, that would be a fun World Series for this podcast Hopefully judge, you know gets it together. I think yeah, he had a pretty bad year. No, no, but like oh

But you know, you know how he's like he won the quadruple crown No, what I was saying is like he had that point where he's like trying to hit 62. I just want him to get Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. I'm hitting them. Yeah. Yeah, but he there was like a lot of Like it felt like the Yankees last month was just get judged 62 home runs I can't wait till Aaron Boone like fuck something up and then they just bring him back again Yeah, you didn't show up the warm-up day who Chapman. Well, yeah, no, he's off the roster I think they were also looking for a reason to cut him to not bring him on the playoff roster It's like oh, you missed the workout. Good. Listen, you wouldn't want to win with him

Anyway, because anyone who wins with him, that's shameful. Yeah, it's asterisk. I would never It's forever tainted if you were to win with that. Yeah. All right, Billy. You're who's back My who's back is sec message boards. I know we usually talk college football on Wednesday show But this one's really quick in the Tennessee LSU game Jack betch fumbled the kickoff and Tennessee picked up very early in the game and a bunch of LSU fans on their message board think that Tennessee has a Electromagnetic Pulsar hell. Yeah that they were that they're pointing at Jack betch when he fumbled it up at the time And it's like cars too. I yeah where they're just shooting though the thing in the cars explode

Literally accusing Giving Havana syndrome holy shit, bitch Betch, how do I pronounce that? It's got to be bitch Jack bitch is the person's name. Well, if you let the electromagnetic wave And his place Jack so in Tennessee he's been getting funding from the Department of Defense Okay, I like that LSU players. I like that a lot. So that's Department of Defense Yeah, and specialty so the lasers the lasers got concentrated and then they made the ball vibrate and it went out of his hand No, no, they beamed it his brain and made him had a freak out and they gave him a seizure. Yeah

So that sounds about right. I mean LSU. I mean, it's only only respect on tiger droppings One of the original college football. I know the guy those people are fucking psychos. I love dude. Yeah, so it's an EMP Okay, that's why there's a fumble Okay, good job Billy Jake wrap us up. Oh my who's back to the NHL regular season starts too early so weird So apparently they're I just found this out. There were two games overseas too early wait like regular season Yeah, they're already started that a couple years ago the sharks and prog Yeah, they start on Tuesday. Yeah, I don't like that too early I don't have Whitney or biz on in like a month. I guess as far as I'm concerned in HL starts

December 1st. Yeah, ours. Oh, we on this podcast We start the seasons when it feels naturally right to start it I think remember we did our baseball preview like a month after baseball season started. Yeah I think college basketball starts feast week for me. It starts right away. Just because I like gambling on it But yeah, I think for me for me it starts on November 11th the college basketball sports invitation. That's true Start of that Monday Yes, and then NBA starts Christmas day Christmas that is that right? Yep, and NFL starts the draft Yep. Yeah, and it doesn't stop because the combine

No, there's one month after the combine. No, there's two weeks after the Super Bowl before the combine Yeah, but that feels you still got you got it. It's wonderful. Yeah, it's wonderful. It's season two parade season. Yeah parade Jack You're cool. All right numbers Hank. Have you ever gotten this? Seventeen Did you do that last time? 16. Don't worry about it or just remember Jake you want to do 18? I really want to know what Hank's strategy. I thought you guys don't like me doing it No, you do 18. All right. I'm back on 18. I'll do 19. We're gonna box him in Good luck Hank

61 Billy implied Well, if you get it doesn't count. No, I said it already say it What do I have 19? Was this for $5,000? Yeah. Oh 30 damn so close Hank. You're never gonna get it. You're never ever never Never gonna get it never gonna get it never gonna get it never gonna get it never

First Hank stops being sick or he gets the ball There's either They both gonna last forever So this actually one of my favorite fun facts came across so you know shot glasses They're called shot glasses because that's where you're supposed to spit out the lead pellets of a shotgun In like a like if you shoot a pheasant, you're supposed like they develop shot glasses So you spit out the lead Shot into the shot glass. That's why they're called shot. Why are you biting into a bullet?

No, because when you're eat if you shoot okay, yeah, you need it and you get on the little Leg I like that. I like that one shot glass. All right, like I I I I I I