Pardon My Take - NFL Week 5, Fastest 2 Minutes, Recapping A Wild Sunday, Deshaun Needs To Benched Plus Playoff Baseball

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music on today's pardon my take week five in the NFL and incredible, incredible week of weekend of football. Awesome Sunday, we're going to recap it all. This side of the desk is pretty happy good weekend The couch I don't know where they're at The boot again the booth is split because we got to talk some baseball too. But yeah great weekend We're gonna start with fast two minutes. We're gonna talk about every game. We're into who's back. We're in talks and playoff baseball It's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings The roller coaster of an NFL season is moving right along and it promises to be a month full of tricks, treats, and of course, touchdowns. And DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL, is the number one place to bet touchdowns. Running in from the one or an 80-yard bomb, we don't care how they score touchdowns. We want to bet on them and DraftKings hurt us and is delivering ready to place your first bet. Try betting on something simple like a player to score a touchdown. Go to the DraftKings

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Starting point is 00:03:23 The Bills turned the lights back on with their offense when Neon Coleman scored a big touchdown cutting the lead to three but it was too little too late though Sean McDermott had to take his hat off to the leadership shown by CJ Stroudy Arabia and his attack against New York's team. The Texans 23, the Bills 20. In Chicago where Caleb Williams hit DJ Mandy Moore on a walk to remember to start the scoring as the Panthers took a page out of their owner's book burning down the house with business decisions. Andy Dalton went into his old roadhouse and learned that no one ever wins a fight, especially

Starting point is 00:03:59 when the team you're fighting took all your draft picks and good players. Bryce forever young made an appearance in mop up duty still looking like a little kid sitting in a sand pit. Panthers are a depressing drip. Forever young. Bears 36, Panthers 10. And now we head on overseas for our foreign correspondent memes in London. We head to foggy London town where Andrew Van Halen Ginkle was running with the devil on his way to a pick six while CJ Hamcheese and Crumpet said, please sir, may I have some more?

Starting point is 00:04:32 Touchdowns that is. Braylon Eggger Allen Poe said, believe nothing you hear and only half what you see except Nathaniel Canthacket was spotted at every single ditty party. Source, trust me bro. Quincy William Shakespeare wanted some accountability after the game. To ayahuasca or to not ayahuasca? That is the question.

Starting point is 00:04:51 Happy Stefan Gilmore said the price is wrong, bitch, after sealing the win for the Vikings. Vikings 23, Jet 17. Ah, and now, thank you memes, from London, we go to Foxborough where Henry Lockwood's on the scene Over to Gillette Stadium for the AFC East Poop Bowl Ramandre 3000 Stevenson told the Dolphins D They weren't as fresh as him as he broke a fresh and clean clean 33 yard scamper for a first quarter TD Jason Bernie Sanders added three field goals and taxed the Patriots rich D so bad they

Starting point is 00:05:25 wish they invested their money in gold. Alex that is, who scored a goal head touchdown in the fourth quarter. Jalen James Polk answered with what looked like a go ahead TD of his own, but the refs say he annexed his feet out of the end zone. Dolphins win 15-10. And if the season ended today, the mighty New England Patriots would be on the clock. Whoa! Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick,

Starting point is 00:05:53 over to Denver where the only Colorado football game this weekend had Celine Dion Sanders left singing, my heart will bow on as SEAL Team Knicks sank the Raiders hope of the ship. Gardner, it's raining Minshew, danced around but it looks like a great new deal as AOC Alex O'Connell took over and had a couple really nice cannons. The Broncos were wearing their throwback blue helmets as Sean Spayton made sure their team from the infernal desert won't be having any playoff bursts. The Broncos 34. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuh West in Seattle where Rashawn Leroy Jenkins said fuck this shit and returned to fumble 100 yards to start the scoring. Darius got Slaytianic on the Seahawks defense going for 122 in a score but after Michael

Starting point is 00:06:54 Jackson Smith and Jigma Moon walked to the end zone late the game got tight. The Seahawks lined up for a game tying field goal only to have the kick blocked by the law offices of Bryce Ford and Wheaton as Isaiah Ben Simmons is different this year after his summer workouts returned it for a touchdown and the win. Giants 29, Seahawks 20, oh and we have playoff baseball with Max. It was looking like another rough night for the fans in Philadelphia as Shark Viento said, Smile you son of a bitch as he launched a bullet into the seats to take an early lead. However, for the first time in forever, Ice Harper hit a frozen rope to deep center to

Starting point is 00:07:38 get the Phillies back in it. But then just like that, Brandon Limmo gave a ball a ride as he escorted the Mets to a fourth or3 lead. But thankfully, the great stock cleared the bases while reaching 88 miles an hour. And then... And then... And then... And and then And then and then and then and then and then there was a deep line drive to the left field and The Casiano's won the game and I don't know who will be putting on this headset again

Starting point is 00:08:16 after this showing That was a first and fastest two minutes This is 2 minutes. Standing on the corner, Jameis, Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. It's the Browns, they suck, another left hand up, the commander's asking who are we. Deschamps no runner, he's such a bummer. How can anyone root for such a perfect comer? The commanders take down the Browns 34 13 and that was the fastest two minutes brought to you by our friends at Chevy.

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Starting point is 00:10:12 We'll talk Steelers Cowboys sometime at the end. Yeah I was just saying when was the last time somebody got hit by lightning just get out there suit up and play like when America was great and then Big Cat just told me that Martha Stewart has been hit by lightning five times. Four times I believe. Martha Stewart lightning four times I believe. Martha Stewart still after the still looking right by the way. After the third time you get hit by lightning you got to chill you you got to stop going

Starting point is 00:10:37 outdoors lightning Martha Stewart three times sorry three times is still three different times she's been hit by lightning. That's crazy. That is what, also the guy that was playing Jesus during the Passion of the Cross, I think he got hit by lightning. He did? During the filming, yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:52 Dude, getting hit by lightning. Would you tell, if you got hit by lightning and survived, you would just tell everyone, like, like the first moment you met him? Oh yeah. Anytime there was like a cloud in the sky, be like, oh, that reminds me of the time I got hit by light

Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah, and I beat lightning. Yeah, I beat lightning mano-a-mano. I would I would have a lightning tattoo. That was visible Yeah, I've been become a Chargers fan. Yep, just like or Harry Potter. Yeah one or the other I never read Harry Potter or watch the movies, but I think that's what happened. Did you get hit by lightning? You got hit by a curse oh curse spell same thing same Like a lightning bolt scar on his head got it okay good survived though. He did boy Well, I would assume he survived because you had to write the books There's a death spell right like if he didn't survive the book would have been one page Yeah, so all right week five in the books except for that game which we will get to it's pretty short to get hit by lightning

Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah, was he was he there's a baby. I was thought he was a baby What was his mom doing just hold him up to the lightning she died? No, she got hit Oh, she got hit by lightning and he got hit by light by the spell. Oh, yeah, right. That's right Yeah, we already like them plot two seconds into you explaining it That's how quickly you're way more likely to get hit by lightning than I am big cat Yeah, that's true. Yeah, statistically say also more likely for like, you know a promotion Yeah to be swiped right to don't swipe right Yeah, swipe right to dunk a bat. Oh, yeah for people to respect me a lot of those things

Starting point is 00:12:22 I don't know but the lightening respect part is still that's up in the air I think that's that's a height thing Did you guys think that you could get hit by lightning if you shower during the lightning storm? Yeah. No. Yeah, I did I always just thought I was still doing the car because the rubber grounds you that's why Hank doesn't shower. Yeah, that's a fact I've been hit by lightning. This is our preamble lightning delay. That was our lightning delay to talk about week five Let's get into some football. That was an awesome, awesome Sunday. It was a great weekend of football. We'll talk college football on Wednesday, but the whole weekend was like, man, I love football.

Starting point is 00:12:53 I feel like this was one of those weekends where it's like, what do people do when they don't watch football? And then you step outside, you're like, oh yeah, it's actually also a really nice weekend outdoors. I think that as good of a weekend as it was outside for non football fans, I think it was as good for football fans. Yeah. Zero regrets watching all the football this weekend because, uh, it delivered time and time again. We had an incredible witching hour. We had some shootouts. We had some big, I mean it was the, the early slate was really where it was at and we only had six games because we had the London game to start everything off

Starting point is 00:13:26 At 8 30 in the morning the Vikings 23 Jets 17 Goddamn, does a London game always suck? I don't when we had a really great London game. I think there was a tie I want to say maybe the Redskins tied the Bengals at some point It really is the London game always just proves that whatever, whenever they give us football, we'll watch it no matter what, like the quality of it. Because this game was, it started with, uh, well both defenses played well. Both quarterbacks didn't play well. Uh, Aaron Rogers threw three picks. He looks old as fuck. He looks angry as fuck. Uh, they still almost came back and won the game if it weren't for his third pick. And I feel like, so I walked in here on Sunday mornings, I usually bring my kids to the office so they can run around the gym and everything.

Starting point is 00:14:14 So I walked in here at like 9 a.m. And I had my two oldest and memes are sitting by himself in the gambling cave screaming at the TV they were having they were laughing their butts off listening to memes go crazy memes kept apologizing I was like dude you don't think this happens at my house and they were giggling they're like who is that who is that guy yeah it was a it was a tough game for Jets fans because in the first half it looked like it was gonna be another Vikings blowout yeah and I guess we got the question answer like can the Vikings win a close game one can the Vikings win without Sam first half, it looked like it was going to be another Vikings blowout. Yeah. And I guess we got the question answered, like can the Vikings win a close game?

Starting point is 00:14:46 One can the Vikings win without Sam Darnold being awesome. He had his worst game of the season by far today. I think he completed like 50% of his passes. Yeah, he didn't look good. He also got banged up. But it was the Vikings defense is for real for real for real. Yeah. And that's that's the difference because they didn't play a perfect game and they still want there. They're definitely engineered to play with a lead

Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah, because they're their defensive line will get after you It'll be interesting to see if they play a game where they have to come from behind how their defense holds up then But here's a here's an interesting stat that I read about Aaron Rodgers today who and the Jets did you know that he has as many three interception games with the Jets as that he has as many three interception games with the Jets as Zach Wilson had in his 11 starts last season. Wow. That's kind of interesting, isn't it? Wait, did he have, is this his second one? This is his third. His third one? No. Let's see, maybe second? Yeah. Is it second or third? Anyways, it's tied with Zach Wilson. Yeah, he is, uh, he, I mean, he's not an interception thrower. So this is this is he looks bad. He looks old. He looks angry. memes. Um, from your point of view, it feels bad right now, doesn't it? The offense feels bad. Everything feels bad. Yeah, it feels really bad. And then we had Quincy Williams afterwards in the locker room said, uh, people got to start taking accountability.

Starting point is 00:16:05 So that's where we're at with the jet season. People have to start taking accountability. What does that look like? I think it's probably, it's probably Robert Sala saying, I'm in over my head guys, Nathaniel Hackett saying, Hey, just, I know that you keep giving me a dummy headset, just keep doing that. Rogers may be saying, Hey, I'm going to try to be a nicer person. And, um, yeah, that's probably it. And Hassan Reddick coming to the team.

Starting point is 00:16:31 Hassan Reddick coming to the Hassan Reddick needs to take accountability. And Joe Douglas being like, Hey, you know what? I'm going to take accountability. I'm am going to trade for Devante Adams because it won't solve everything, but it does feel like their offense doesn't have it. Their offense isn't have it does it their offense isn't inspiring let's say that so for me it might be everybody on the Jets front office all the Jets brass as Adam Schefter put it the grass the full brass saying I don't know if it was a great idea to mortgage our entire franchise for a shadow GM that's gonna come in here when he's done taking drugs

Starting point is 00:17:04 and then try to run the team correct and also He's 40 years old. Yes. He's 40 years old and he's starting to look 40 years old I know he's been dealing with a knee issue. I think he turned his ankle Tottenham turf sucks. Yeah, but Aaron Rogers like the Jets are Obviously we have the Browns who will get to, but the Jets are the second team in my advanced analytics, uh, bad vibes team. Yeah. They're a bummer. They've been a bummer and as bad as they are, they might be, I think they might be the second best two and three team in the league. Yeah, no, there's still, I still think they're going to probably go

Starting point is 00:17:37 to the playoffs because Aaron Rodgers is still too good, even though he is obvious. He's not peak Aaron Rodgers. he hasn't been for a while but you thought you wouldn't get three interception Aaron Rodgers he uh there was a moment in the game where it felt like they were just showing it was like Robert Sala then Rodgers I think Hackett maybe for a second a Jets fan and everyone had a big frown on their face and looked like they were having a horrendous time yeah Robert Sala does not look happy on the sidelines at all. And it's not that he's mad. I would actually like it better if he got mad.

Starting point is 00:18:09 But he never really turns the corner to that emotion. He's just always got this look on his face, like, I can't believe I have to fucking deal with this shit. Yeah. And it's tough to watch. But I think that if the Jets can beat the Bills, one of the night football next week. Ooh, that's a good game. Big game. I'm going to say it's a can't lose game for the Jets can beat the Bills, one of the night football next week, Ooh, that's a good game.

Starting point is 00:18:25 big game, this is a, I'm gonna say it's a can't lose game for the Jets. I think it's a can't lose game for both. Because they got two teams in the division that are obviously not good. Correct. Right now, as they stand, who knows what's gonna happen when Tua gets back. But right now the Dolphins and the Patriots are not good. The Jets and the Bills aren't great,

Starting point is 00:18:41 but you could convince me that either one of those two could win the division. Yes, and here's a positive for you, Mem me that either one of those two could win the division. Yes. And here's a positive for you, Memes, before we talk a little more about the Vikings. Aaron Rodgers doesn't hate Garrett Wilson as much as we thought, because it felt like he was force-feeding him. It felt like he saw everyone say, hey, does Aaron Rodgers hate Garrett Wilson? He's like, no, I don't.

Starting point is 00:19:02 Here's how much I don't. And I'm going to throw him the ball a bunch. So that's good. Memes. That is positive. And I found out today they call three plays at a time for Aaron Rodgers. Oh, is that why he was doing that clip is not, did not look good when he was just motioning to the sideline to get the play in faster. Um, it was that one in him crawling on the ground that were just again bad vibes for the Jets overall. They're a bad vibes team. Yeah, I mean, he did battle back from what I think everybody thought was like a season

Starting point is 00:19:33 ending leg injury. Yes, when he got hit his foot got pinned underneath the guy and then he was out for a little bit. It looked it looked awful about as bad as it can look for for Jets fans, but then he came right back in so memes his knee is okay His knee is okay his knee is okay his knee is okay The crazy thing is memes is as bad as today was in last week So it's like a culmination of these two games If you look at the AFC the AFC is kind of bad in general outside of a couple teams at the top Because with the Bengals being one and four we'll talk about next. Uh, it just like the jets are right now in the eighth spot and ahead of them are the chargers, the Ravens who I are very good, the

Starting point is 00:20:14 Broncos, uh, the bills and the Steelers who like you could make an argument that the chargers, Broncos, bills, Steelers, there's a chance one of, if not a couple of those teams don't make it in the jets have a spot to like they'll be fine. I think I think they would if I had to go gun to my head, I think the jets are still a playoff team, but it's just bad vibes. Yeah, I'm looking through the records right now. Here are the other two and three teams. If we're doing two and three power rank. Oh, okay. We got the Dolphins. They're two and three. Yeah, we got the Raiders are two and three bad. We've got the Colts are two and three bad if they go back to Anthony Richardson and then we go to the NFC we got the Giants at two and three. Surprisingly feisty feisty feisty. We got the Cardinals and the Niners also feisty Niners good but bad record. Yep. And then yeah, that's it. That's all we got. So it's it's you're gonna be okay memes

Starting point is 00:21:08 You just got to figure out a way Hank's Hank's just kind of smiling here Hank because I mean your team is bad But you've got to love the fact that memes they're all in Yeah, I feel bad. I want the best for for memes and the Jets. It's it's unfortunate that in such a down year for the FC They're still losing to these bad teams. I guess not the Vikings. Yeah, the Vikings are a good team. I feel like the Tom Brady experiment in Tampa Bay really threw off the idea of how good it is to try to get a 40-year-old quarterback at the end of their... And turn the entire franchise into their little science project.

Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah. Because Tom Brady obviously worked very well for the Tampa Bay Bucks. Aaron Rodgers, it seems like he's not moving around as well right now. He also would have got Devante Adams. No question. Who? Brady. Yeah. Like if Brady, if Brady wanted him. Yeah. So is Rogers, I'm saying like Brady has Rogers lost his fastball, being able to get a player. That's a good question. I think so. That's actually a good take. Yeah, that's a great take Hank. Already want to take no for an answer. Yeah. So memes, looking at the schedule, you have the bills and then at the Steelers and then you play the Patriots again. So you have to, you have to go two and one here probably. I, I, we, I think we

Starting point is 00:22:21 have a good chance to go to a no. No, no, that was three games I gave you think we have a good chance to go to a no no no that was three games. I gave you We have a good chance to go in three. No. Oh three. No. I think said two and oh three No, okay, so you're fine. You're not even sure we should be form one listen going into Just which one should you've won you should the Broncos well? I don't know about this game drop the easiest interception today Yeah, Sam. Donald wasn't good day I guess that would be the thing is like you played a game where Sam Donald has been on fire the first four games this season the Vikings we said the stat on Friday They only have been trailing for two minutes and 36 seconds or something this season the Vikings are really really good and you got a

Starting point is 00:23:00 poor performance from Sam Donald that you weren't able to capitalize because the Vikings defense is very very good and they made Aaron Rodgers look old and slow and bad and the you know pick six and the interception to seal the game I the Vikings I think are like they're they're the most besides the Chiefs they're probably the team I believe in the most as of right now yeah they look very good. Again, I want to see them play if they have to like come from behind. I want to see what their defense does in a situation like that because they definitely are engineered to rush the pass or when they have a lead.

Starting point is 00:23:36 And it's interesting because Sam Darnold didn't have his best game and Aaron Jones got hurt today. Yeah, that's a bummer. And they still were okay. Now, the bye week probably a good time for the Vikings. Yeah, great time. It's always a good time. Not as good as the Rams, but it almost yeah, if you're undefeated, the bye week is usually a good time. Yes. Okay, we just got to regroup. That's gonna feel awesome having a bye week undefeated. Yeah, but I was I was most impressed by the Vikings being like, we knew we were excited for Sam

Starting point is 00:24:01 Donald to play as good as he did the first four weeks of the season. We knew that there was probably going to be a game where he was, you know, not great Sam Darnold. And can the Vikings survive that? And the answer is yes. And now you hope that great Sam Darnold comes back because he got that one out of his system. Yep, he might. Here's another interesting stat about Aaron Rodgers here.

Starting point is 00:24:21 Did you know that he's 1-47 in games where he trails in the fourth quarter against a team that's above 500 Whoa, that's pretty crazy. Isn't it? That is pretty one in 47 wild stats the one win. I Think it was two years ago. I Think his last season Green Bay. Okay, I forget who it was against. Okay Yeah, cuz I was gonna say the the one that he got he came back against the Bears 2018 that was opening night No, I think it was um I was just expecting that to be like the one win was against the Bears cuz I remember seeing that stat which looked a Lot cooler when it said that it was oh and whatever like oh and 35. Yeah, and then he gave up he got one back

Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, yeah, by the way, shout out Harrison Smith still out there doing it. Yeah and all over the place He's fine. I mean you don't guys don't play the lure on defense. I feel like 35 year olds. That's not You know normal. I think it's his his long arm sleeves that he wears Yeah, the ones that like it go up to the elbows. He looks fast as shit. It completely yeah It keeps him it makes him look fast and also protects him. Yep. Yeah. All right, so Vikings 5-0 Best team in football going to the bye week. You can't make it otherwise Yeah, I mean the Chiefs are the only other argument and the Chiefs have not played yet So the Chiefs could wit lose to the Saints and then we would look like the smartest people in the world

Starting point is 00:25:36 I think I think the Vikings are very very much for real. I believe in Sam Darnall. Yeah Okay, next up Ravens 41 Bengals 38. This game was awesome. Great game. Absolute shootout. Probably one of the coolest plays in the Ravens coming back and Lamar Jackson when he fumbled the snap, then stiff armed Sam Hubbard twice, scrambled around and found, found Isaiah likely in the end zone zone I think they were down 10 at the time this game had everything it was like Lamar Jackson and Joe burrow were just both playing perfect football and it was back and forth and the Bengals are now one in four in a game that they absolutely should have won because here's here's a problem for the Bengals Joe burrow was

Starting point is 00:26:23 phenomenal and he made one mistake and he has to play perfect for them to win because that one mistake basically cost them. It was a great game and Jamar Chase was incredible, unguardable tonight. Yeah. And yeah, it's tough for the Bengals. Joe said after the game, we're not a championship team. Yeah, I agree with that Joe. Yeah, he was he was 392 yards 76.9% completion, five touchdowns and then the one interception is what killed him. And for a second there I looked smart and Hank looked dumb. Now I look dumb again because the Bengals lost but I did look smart when it went you're right. It went from 22 to one to 10 to one because he was playing

Starting point is 00:27:00 so out of his mind. And I do think the Bengals with how bad their defense is, Joe burrow has to play perfect and he knows going into every game he has to play perfect and he was playing perfect. And then that happened. The one thing I don't understand Zach Taylor. And so the Bengals obviously had a bad snap on the missed field goal and over time, the Evan McPherson missed field goal. Uh, that should actually not count as a miss field goal. Like Like I don't know if they can do a stat. It was crazy that he was able to kick that in relatively the right direction. Right. The ball got put down about I don't know a tenth of a second

Starting point is 00:27:33 before the foot hit it. Yeah. But so my only qualm with Zach Taylor's coaching today was they get the Ravens fumble because Lamar Jackson doesn't see the snap coming in overtime. The Bengals get the ball back. They're basically immediately in field goal range. He calls three runs. Now I know that the missed snap and hold would have, you can't be like, oh well if they were closer, because if it was a miss, snap and hold, even if it was a 20 yard field goal, they'd probably miss it because it was that bad. But I don't know why when you've had the type of game that Joe Burrows played and he is your, he, you basically have to put the whole team on Joe Burrows back. Why in that moment you wouldn't just continue to

Starting point is 00:28:17 put your team on Joe Burrows. I agree. It was strange that he got very conservative with that because you do want to get closer. You want to make it an easier field goal attempt if you can. Or I mean, Joe, the way that Joe and Jamar were working, it was not unlikely that they could score touchdown. Right. So just be aggressive. Keep, let Joe burrow win the game for you because he's been that good. And again, you, you have to go into every game and it's not fair to Joe burrow, but he has to play perfect because their defense is an absolute mess and was getting carved up and they, it looked like the, the Bengals game plan was hey, we're gonna try to stop the run Lamar Jackson was like, okay fine

Starting point is 00:28:51 I'll just throw the ball all over the place and hit everyone. It looks so good as a passage incredible incredible I that Isaiah likely play was like play of the year so far It was like it I think he dribbled the ball off the ground a little bit I think he dribbled the ball off the ground a little bit. I think he dribbled the ball, picked it up, two stiff arms scrambled across his body to likely just floated in there perfectly. It was a sexual play. Yeah, very sexual. And then you and then Derek Henry ran, you know, the 52 yarder in overtime to seal the game. Getting stronger. He's getting stronger. He was kind of bottled up until that moment. But it was just an awesome game and now the Bengals

Starting point is 00:29:25 I don't know. So I was looking at their schedule. I think they have to they have four games coming up Until they play the Ravens again That I think they have they don't have any margin for error anymore They have to win their games. They play the Giants and the Browns, which they should win and then the Eagles and Raiders So they I think they have to go for and for that would get them to five and Four going up against the Ravens so they like this is a problem with one and four we keep saying. Oh, okay. They'll be okay They'll probably be a playoff team They can't have another like whoops. We slipped up and lost the game like they lost today

Starting point is 00:30:00 Where they were up ten with five minutes left. This is true life help. I am addicted to believing in the bangles. I still believe too, but you, you see what I'm saying? Like they, if they have one or two more of these slip ups where, whether it be a week one game where they lost to a Patriots team that the Patriots might, that might be their only win of the year. Yeah. Or this game where they're up 10 with five and a half minutes left and they just like a comedy of errors to blow this game. If you do that any other time, your season could be over. Yep. And now Lamar is as a starter. He is nine and one against the Bengals. Yeah. He Jamar chase torches the Bengals, torches the Bengals and Joe or sorry, you

Starting point is 00:30:42 were saying the Mars against the Bengals, but I was going to say Jamar chase also torches the Bengals. I saw those stats. He goes like 200 every time. But Lamar, sorry, I say bangles. Jamar, Jamar chase torches the Ravens Lamar Jackson torches the Bengals. Now how about this? All right, I got it for the rain. Got it for the Ravens brain. Just stop for a second. We've got an Instagram update via the Devante Adams situation. Okay, I think this is on Friday. Yes. He posted a picture of Edgar Allen Poe. We all know who he looks like the the famous author who moved to New York City. I know his life. Did he? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Wow. No, I just

Starting point is 00:31:22 remember that he died on the streets. Nobody knows how he did. No, from Baltimore. Yeah, from Baltimore. But wait, the team named after him. But he didn't actually move to New York. I think he did at the end of his life. A lot like Aaron Rodgers. A lot like a drug addict. So you who moved to New York. I saw Jets fans trying to use that. Our friend Tom Lay was like Edgar Allen Poe at the end of his life moved to New York City. I did not know that he wrote He wrote the the Raven he wrote the telltale heart Tom Lane might have also not fact-checked that my fact-checking is just reading Tom Lee's tweet It was and it was probably some guy online that he saw that yeah, I'm gonna look at I thought that he died on the streets Of Baltimore did I make that up? Maybe he overdosed on ether or some bullshit like that. That's badass

Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah, it is kind of cool way to go. All right, later life. I'm gonna look. Either way, does that feel like he was forced to move between several cities, including Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York City? In 1836, when he was 27, he married his cousin. God damn it. He's always just married real bad. Yeah. Fucking Einstein did that. Don't shit. I guess you don't. you didn't meet as many people. I don't yeah communities didn't move that much So it's like chances are you're gonna be Was that the was that the version of like your office wife is like your family wife. Yes, my family wife It's like this is all the people I know is I'm just gonna start dating my cousin. This is my Thanksgiving wife We always really get get close during the holiday season. So yeah. Yeah, he moved to the Bronx

Starting point is 00:32:48 So yeah, maybe that's so who knows what part of Edgar Allen Poe's life the Devante Adams was referring to was referring to so Yes, final home was in the Bronx, New York. If he if he does go to the Ravens though I feel like I feel like that's bad news for the AFC Yeah, that's bad news for the AFC good news, that's bad news for the AFC. Good news for the Ravens. Very good news for the news for Stavi. The Ravens are really really good. Yeah, their defense did get cash today. But here we go. Full circle. Jamar chase does own the Ravens. That's true. You've always said that I've always said that. Not the Bengals. He just definitely doesn't own the Bengals because he can't get Paul Brown would not. Yeah, he can't get any money

Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah out of them. I'm gonna look up the Jamar Chase vs. The Ravens. This game rocked though. That was so much fun Jamar Chase vs. The Ravens He owns the Ravens in the last couple times. Oh no, he had 193 and That was today 193 and two touchdowns. He had a game where he had 201 in a touchdown and and that was today hundred ninety three and two touchdowns He had a game where he had two hundred and one in a touchdown. That's owning them a little bit 125 The Bengals defense is a big big issue though. Oh, it's a massive issue I so bad they they should just do you know what they should do the old coaches trick of you know what?

Starting point is 00:33:59 We don't have any more starters Every position up for grabs when you just say, it sounds like you're trying something. Bringing the Cincinnati basketball team. Who are they? I just like they're usually, oh, this university university, Cincinnati basketball team. Bring them in for open tryouts. Always tough as fuck. Yeah. They always say they can't shoot and they rebound. Yeah. That's you got a football team. Yeah. Just bring them in and just do that. So that's the old, you know, college coach would be like open tryouts. We want the basketball team to come in and try to play some football. Or other way around.

Starting point is 00:34:28 Get Mick Cronin back there for just a little bit to coach your defense. Yeah. Give me some effort. They are bad. They're bad. And the Ravens are good. Um, anything else? Yeah. My, my brain broke for a second there. I apologize to everyone. Got hit by lightning. Yeah. I got hit by lightning. Uh, I still can't get over that hold and that snap. Yeah. So every time I never had a chance, every time I see something like that happen in a game,

Starting point is 00:34:51 I think about the position of being the holder to me, that seems like it's one of the hardest things to do, but they're really, really good at it at a high level. So you don't really hear about fucked up snaps and holds that much. And when you do, it's a massive thing like Tony Romo. But it feels like getting that snap and putting it down within like a quarter of a second and spinning the ball is a lot harder than we think that it is. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:14 It takes... No, actually, you know what? I'm sounding like a loser right now. I could do that job. I'm Piltdifferent. I could do that job. It's the easiest thing. You catch the ball, you put it down.

Starting point is 00:35:23 How hard is that? It was funny in the gambling cave people were? Had the Bengals and there was some blame going around for the holder wearing a wedding ring Yeah, I'll listen to that. We're like why the fuck does he have a wedding ring on? Yeah, you want had to have affected it you want eligible bachelors as your holder Yeah, I also kind of do I kind of like my holders wearing receiving gloves. Yeah, I don't mind that not a wedding ring. Yeah, not a wedding ring. So winter punters married. I don't know if you're a Bengals fan. Are you? It has

Starting point is 00:35:53 to feel so weird. Having such an explosive offense and a team that has been in this hole before. So you have to tell yourself it's going to be okay, even though it might not be okay this year. So if you're Bengals fan, I'll give you a So you have to tell yourself it's going to be okay, even though it might not be okay this year. So if you're bangles fan, I'll give you a couple of couple of silver linings and all this. One, you'd much rather have an explosive offense and terrible defense than have a terrible

Starting point is 00:36:15 offense and a great defense. Correct. Way more fun to watch. Yep. Two, you're probably an Ohio State fan. So that's fun. Yeah. You get to have a good game against Oregon, have a great Saturday. And then three, you're not the Browns. You could be a Browns fan. Yeah,

Starting point is 00:36:29 that's true. And four Kentucky basketball is back maybe. Yeah, that's these are all these are all big things. You have to look at all the nice things that go along with Cincinnati. You got coach Cal fired. It is bad though for the Bengals like this game specifically losing this to Ravens because like you obviously the way the NFL schedule goes you play another division and you put you know you play the first place schedule the last place schedule the Ravens beat the Bills and the Bengals lost the Patriots that's a that's a tough swing for their AFC East opponents that is yeah it's not good yeah So that that's where it's like, goddamn, you can't have those. I don't think I don't think the Bengals are

Starting point is 00:37:10 gonna make the playoffs. But I do think that they'll be sniffing around. They'll be in that graphic. I'll say it. They're gonna make the playoffs. Fuck it. All right. I might I might try to bet on draft Kings make the playoffs. Let's look it up real quick. Let's figure out if you do what I have to do it, cause I am addicted to still thinking, yeah, they'll figure something out on defense. Why don't we just bet them to win the super bowl soupy. You're thinking it's soupy. What are the odds? Probably quick of they're dead. Probably pretty tasty. Now, uh, fuck it. We're value hunters. This is like 30 to one. It's like buying penny stock the 30 to 1 why not This is

Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah, I might have to do it. I might have to say fuck it. We're gonna believe in the bank What are their next games here? They're going they're playing the Giants in the Browns, so they should win both They should win both though. Oh the Giants are for our feisty Now do you think the bookmakers are smart enough to also know what their future schedule? I think they probably took a look at it. Yeah, they probably took a look at it. Okay, let's go to the next game Texans 23 bills 20 Another great witching hour game. It was all Texans to start then Nico Collins got hurt and their offense basically Like lost all that all this explosiveness. They scored 14 points in the first quarter, nine points in the last three.

Starting point is 00:38:28 Josh Allen was bad. It was probably his worst game he's had in a long time. I think it might have been his worst game ever. Rookie year he had a couple that were real bad, but he was, yeah, like it was, he completed nine passes, I think. Yeah, nine for 30. Nine for 30. And their offense- That has to be his worst completion percentage of all time. My he had it's hard to get worse than that.

Starting point is 00:38:50 It is hard to get worse than that. But I remember his his rookie season was a lot of this guy's really bad. People were were shitting on him. He was bad though. And it's now a two game two game stretch of being bad that has the bills questioning do they make a mistake was it really addition by subtraction getting rid of Stefan Diggs because it feels like The bills don't have any especially with Shakir hurt. The bills don't have anyone who is Getting open routinely and Josh is not finding any rhythm and he's he's been missing guys as well and their offense just

Starting point is 00:39:26 when they've stepped up in class because their first three games weren't against the best opponents they've stepped up played the Ravens played the Texans two of the best AFC teams and did not look good yeah i think i've found maybe a problem with CJ shroud okay i think he hits his guys on explosive long touchdowns so frequently that he injures them. Yeah Because because they're they're burning guys with their deep speed. They're making these catches They're sprinting in the end zone trying to get away from the last corner back and then they get an injury like a hamstring Yeah. Yeah, so CJ maybe maybe stop being so good. Yeah, you're being too good. You gotta check down more often CJ You're too good. You gotta check down more often, CJ. You're too good. Josh Allen did have a six for 15 game his rookie year,

Starting point is 00:40:07 and then he also had an eight completion game his rookie year. But either way, really bad game from Josh Allen. Maybe the Bills got to get back to letting Josh do design runs. There was. Just ground and pound. They did have one. Two tight end sets.

Starting point is 00:40:19 They did have one that looked. Well, that's the other thing is Dalton Kincade. We have two tight ends that we've heard so much about in this in the NFL Kyle Pitts and Dalton Kincaid I feel like I'm just waiting for them to To do some cool shit. Yeah, just go go heavy go heavy sets if you're the bills They can run the ball James Cook is awesome, but Their offense looked so bad today outside of Keon Coleman's like huge Our offense looked so bad today outside of Keon Coleman's like huge broken play kind of touchdown and the only thing kept him in the game was the Texans just kept on trying

Starting point is 00:40:51 to give them the game. There was a pick, there was a fourth and one that they didn't convert and then you get to the end of the game where people are going to go after Sean McDermott for his play calling. So it was, I don't really know, I still am thinking about it and I don't know if I totally disagree. You're talking about when they got the ball back pinned deep. They got the ball back with 40 seconds left tie game

Starting point is 00:41:15 on like the four yard line and the Texans had all three timeouts. So under normal circumstances, you'd say, yeah, run the ball, go to overtime. The say, yeah, run the ball, uh, go to overtime. The problem is if you run the ball, the techs are going to use all three of their timeouts. And if you're not running it, trying to get a first down, you're just trying to run out the clock. They're going to have a chance to kick a field goal, which they ended up doing. Sean McTurman decided to pass the ball three times, which I don't hate the idea. Uh, but

Starting point is 00:41:42 given how their passing game was working, it felt like it was a losing proposition. Yeah. So if, if they had tried to run the ball three times, you burn her three timeouts, they punt, they probably, the Texans get the ball back with what, like 25 seconds left. Yeah. Enough. Certainly enough time to make a few yards around midfield probably. Yep. And then that's definitely enough time to make a few yards and kick that same field goal that they ended up kicking. Yes. So yeah, I, at the time I wasn't, I guess I was a little confused when they ran it on first and second down,

Starting point is 00:42:12 but then I started thinking about it. I was passed. Oh yeah, we passed. But then I'm like, yeah, this is no win situation. And McDermott took blame for it afterwards. He's like, yeah, that was my call. Kind of a shitty position I was in, but I'll take responsibility for that. Well, yeah, you should take responsibility because you're the coach but I don't think it was like a big colossal fuck-up. I thought it was a fuck-up just because I thought they were gonna get safety'd. Just go go play action. They think you're gonna run it. Yeah I don't know I mean I guess running it and then and then

Starting point is 00:42:40 making them burn all three of their timeouts, but the other problem is Kimi Fairbairn is Incredible he had he now has eight 50 plus yard field goals and it's been five weeks. He has eight 50 plus yard field goals and it's been five weeks That's the most ever through five weeks It also there's only four kickers last year in the entire season who had eight 50 plus yard field goals It's crazy. It was a 59 yarder to win the game on your and it cleared it by it looked like it was close to 10 yards it landed. I think it hit the net. Yeah, I think maybe

Starting point is 00:43:13 even if a fan might have caught it. Yeah, it was incredible. So you like Yeah, you're kind of stuck there. I think I'd probably lean running the ball and trying to let make them burn their timeouts. And maybe you can break one with James Cook. the ball and trying to make them burn their timeouts and maybe you can break one with James Cook. Because again, it's not as much like the idea of passing to try to be aggressive and get a first down so you can go to overtime I get but the way the Bills offense looked passing the ball was so bad that you have to think that you have a better chance of getting a first down running the ball in that situation than passing.

Starting point is 00:43:43 And good news for the Texans, you didn't commit a single penalty I think in the first half after we had Laramie Tunsel on watch for the most holding penalties ever. I don't think he had a holding penalty today. I don't know either. I tried to bet on it. You can't bet on penalties, but I figured he'd have a penalty. But maybe he didn't. What are you going to say Max? Nothing. You're just leaning towards the microphone. I thought you're gonna say something. Here's the trend. Yeah, here's the crazy thing about the Texans I don't think the Texans played their best game and their foreign one and look for real for real for real Like they haven't today was a perfect example first quarter Lights out like holy shit. This is gonna be the Texans day. They're gonna dominate him

Starting point is 00:44:22 Nico Collins gets hurt their offense kind of sputters. It doesn't feel like they put together a full four quarters yet, and they're four and one, and it feels like they can just keep going up and up from here. Yeah, this is a big step too, I think, for CJ Stroud. The Bills, I don't think are a bad team at all. I think that they've got some question marks, but being able to hold them off in the in the fourth quarter as they mounted a comeback, I think like those wins and the win that he had against a not so great team, the Jaguars, like he's he's not just blowing teams out. He's doing it in weird ways where he has like kind of engineer victories.

Starting point is 00:44:57 Yes. Yes. So I, yeah, I'm high on the Texans. And I guess if you're a Bills fan, I think the best thing you can do is say, well, we just played the Ravens on the Texans and I guess if you're a Bills fan I think the best thing you can do is say well We just played the Ravens and the Texans who are two of the top three teams in the AFC So maybe we're not one of the top teams in the AFC But you also have to put perspective that they're still a playoff team, right? So next week when it's gonna be Bills and Jets It's not I don't it's too easy to say loser leaves town, but it's like loser loser feels really bad leaving town loser go get your passport where's the game where's the game memes met life met life whose line is it anyway brought

Starting point is 00:45:35 to you by DraftKings I'm gonna pull it up I'm gonna say it is bills minus two and a half memes can you pull it up? Your phones dead? How's your phone dead? I don't know I just died It's Sunday you gotta always be on top of it Been here all day yeah That's something that's

Starting point is 00:45:58 You can't have your phone die I'm gonna say Jets minus two Pft was right Bills what is it? Bills minus two whoo PFT was right Oh bills what is it bills minus two and a half let's go Alright, so then I under I gotta take the Jets. I guess the Jets are wearing their throwback jerseys Those good or bad no You know what was I'm talking that was a real fuck you dude. Oh man was that a real fuck you dude it is the Mark Sanchez chatt pennington Vinnie Tessa Verde once that's all that boy a lot of good memories

Starting point is 00:46:31 I love that to a FC championship games exactly let me see them should have never changed Let me see the throwback jerseys. They're shiny right those I don't shiny green ones the Jets are you know there? Yeah, shot look how shiny those jerseys are you know, there are certain people that um, you like if you close your eyes You can't you can't remember if they have like a mustache or if they play go if they wear glasses or something Like we're like, I think they have a mustache, but I'm not sure. Yeah, that's kind of the Jets jerseys like if you asked me to Remember their throwbacks like I think I remember them. It's weird because I Began I think you and I are old enough to see these jerseys

Starting point is 00:47:06 And then remember when they would wear their throwback. Yeah, right, which are way more similar to their jerseys now, right? Well, they're their jerseys now are the throwbacks. Oh, okay. Yeah, see alright, so that makes sense So they're wearing their they're not wearing their throwbacks. They're wearing their new jerseys. This is cut. This is throwback This is their in-between throwbacks in between throwbacks and we're currently wearing the throwbacks What were you saying? These look like their current jerseys. That's what I'm saying. That's like what you close your eyes You're like wait does that person have a mustache can't remember They I don't I look at these I'm like, oh, yeah, those are the Jets what are the what are the current Jets jerseys? Yeah, these are the most uninspiring throwbacks. What do you mean? Because I wouldn't know

Starting point is 00:47:49 if you had not said anything I would have been like those are just the Jets jerseys. See it's like a uh. Is it the circle in the helmet? That's what it is? That's the current. But those are the throwbacks. No. The current are the throwbacks. The ones that they're wearing this year are their throwbacks to before they had their throwback jerseys, right? So they're wearing their some next week. They're not wearing throwbacks. They're wearing their new jersey. It is a throwback. No, it's their New Jersey's those are the same jerseys at the line. They're not on the stairs are a little no No, no means you're not getting it. They're jerseys that they have right now are their throwback jerseys the ones that they wore in like the mid 2000s to late 2000s. Those are their new jerseys. So they're going to be wearing their new jerseys in New Jersey

Starting point is 00:48:36 Yes These are their new jerseys that they're wearing on Monday not their throwbacks because they wear their throwbacks as their regular jerseys I mean they technically will be new jerseys. Yes. Where MetLife is right. This is also the best week of jerseys of the year. Oh all around bangles. We didn't even talk about the bank. Yeah. And today we're awesome. Yeah. Broncos the Broncos should never wear anything else. That's yeah. Yeah. I saw Bo Nicks go out and pregame warmups and I was like he he looks so much like John Elway that I think he's going to think that he is John Elway. Yeah, I saw him in warmups and I was like this guy I'm gonna have to wait a half but then he's gonna arrive. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay, a timeless tradition lives on the classic. That's not the classic. You're wearing the classic. This is a classic. It's not, no. Could you just point that out because you want, just because it says the word classic on the graphic?

Starting point is 00:49:30 You're like, look, it says classic. Also, no, and feeling nostalgic, no, you don't feel nostalgic, like, I guess you feel nostalgic all the time. What was Joe Namath wearing? The ones they're wearing now, I think. When you look at that, the font that they have on classic is, like, that's a classic

Starting point is 00:49:46 font but when you compare it to the jersey, it doesn't match the jersey at all. The jersey's new and futuristic. Now those are classic. Yeah, and that's their jersey that they're wearing now. Oh, but that has a circle. I'm now confused. Kind of like a hybrid. Yeah, this fully, fully confused me.

Starting point is 00:50:04 Max, you raised your hand. No, that was like a What was what are we doing? Just yeah, I don't know. We're just we're doing the show No, no, that would be like what are we what are the jets? What are the just the jersey every time? It's just different iterations of the city. You just show us. Could you Google the history of the Jets jerseys? Oh, yeah, give me a timeline. Well, the most recent ones before now were trash Oh, yeah, give me a timeline. Well the most recent ones before now were trash It was the worst oh, yeah when they tried to do like the black and green ones yeah, they were super shiny Along with Adam Gase and they lost every single fucking year unlike all the other Jets years no those the classics

Starting point is 00:50:47 Good memories, okay All right, yeah, the Jets have just had the same jersey. Yeah from 1965 that's the same jersey. Like the only helmet in the 1960 ones were the ugly ones I was talking about. Yeah the ugly ones. I was. Yeah. The blue ones, right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So throwback night throwback. Is it? No, it's classic. Are the bills wearing their throwbacks? They should. That was absolutely throwbacks. Like they wear them every week now though. These ones sucked. Yeah. Those ones did suck. Those ones are bad. They were the only ones that were different. They, they tried to switch it up and they, and then they suck. So then they were like harder. Yeah. And then like, we need to go back to, we got to run the football with just the same Jersey.

Starting point is 00:51:31 That's not even, that's not even that big of a change though. That's like, we're just going to make the shoulders look like 20% sleeker. This good Jersey talk. All right. So Texans are really good and bills might have some problems. Yep. All right Next up commanders 34 Browns 13 Pft. Yeah, I said on on Friday show that if we won this game, I am going to say some reckless shit Then I saw that we're playing the Ravens and I feel like that's my reckless shit game Yeah, like if we beat the Ravens I will get so abnormally reckless with it that nobody will want to listen to show ever again I can say what I was going to say. Well, I saved for the Ravens. Okay, I'll say it for the Ravens

Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, so you don't want to I think you want to give us a give us one thing I don't say okay, you want to say some of it. You're not and you're not saying this No, not without I'll leave out one word. Okay, okay. I Think that jaden daniels is the blank best quarterback in the NFL There's a word. There's a word that's my best quarterback is the blank best quarterback in the NFL unanimous eighth No, it's not eighth. That's why I'm not saying it, because it's not eighth. Second.

Starting point is 00:52:46 It's not second. No. Undisputed. First? No. Undisputed. Third. No.

Starting point is 00:52:54 It's around. Fifth. It's third. Eighteenth. It's right in between what Big Cat and Max said. Fourth. Fourth. Here's the thing with Jayden Daniels today.

Starting point is 00:53:02 He finally didn't have like a like his last three games were basically perfect football. He didn't have a perfect football game, but he still made just awesome big time throws and third down. He just completely befuddles defenses and he wasn't really doing it as much with his legs. He had good numbers rushing in the other games, but in this game it's like he got out of the pocket scrambled, had a bunch of chunk plays with his feet. Um, he didn't have his best game with his arm. He had that bad interception in the first half. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like it's almost,

Starting point is 00:53:32 it's almost better that he like obviously you want to be perfect all the time, but in the back you're like, he can't be perfect every single game. So having a game where he wasn't perfect, but still really fucking good has to be comforting. And I think his whole stat line looks a lot better if Terry gets into the end zone on that first bomb that he threw. That was incredible. We just sprints away from the pressure and uncorks one. It was like a Josh Allen type play. Then he had that great touchdown pass to Brown at the end. Yeah. Jeremy Brown, that was a sick throw. It was a sick throw. Yeah. I, I'm still not sold on the warthog as being his nickname. I tried

Starting point is 00:54:06 it out once today. Yeah, not Che had to point out he doesn't have any warts that we know that we know that we know that we know I don't know what his full medical panel says. But the warthog I'm struggling to come up with that one. I tried out Jesus. Okay, Jesus Christ. Maybe that's a little too confusing. It. Jesus Christ. Eh. Maybe. That's a little too confusing. It might be a little confusing. But it was mostly today was about the defense. What about his name just being cool?

Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah, Jaden. Jaden Daniels is just a cool name. It is a cool name. I don't think you even need to do a nickname for him. So the defense the last two weeks has looked good. Now it's against the Cardinals who I don't think are that bad offensively. I think that they're okay. They're there when they can't run the ball they're very bad and then when they can run the ball they look good so

Starting point is 00:54:53 you guys I mean but you guys get credit for stopping their run. Yes. Right. But I will get I will get way out of pocket if we happen to beat the Ravens next Sunday which is not gonna be flexed it's gonna be I think in the noon slate so I don't know they flexed till later anyway No, they wanted to flex. Oh, yeah CBS protected it CBS to Kimbe swatted them. I did see Florio they were they were trying to basically burn time during the weather delay and Lurio did a weird like FaceTime interview with Jaden Daniels and was like have you heard people chanting MVP yet? And Jaden Daniels was like, no, I have not. Like, he's a humble guy. Yeah. And Florio Baszler was like, get ready to learn like MVP, buddy. I don't like that. Florio stay far away from

Starting point is 00:55:35 my quarterback. Hey, Florio was awkward. Florio stick to Aaron Rodgers, buddy. Yeah, he was staying your lane. But yeah, the Dan Quinn defense is starting to round into shape. Uh, the Browns were one of 13 on third down until garbage time. Deshaun Watson has to be benched. There was a moment in this game where I was like, Holy fuck, how is this guy still playing? And that was, I think it was like fourth and short, maybe fourth and three, fourth and four. And that was, I think it was like fourth and short, maybe fourth and three, fourth and four. And Stefanski was looking out on the field, like calling in the play, like, we're going to do this, we're going for it. Deshaun just started walking off the field and Stefanski just put his head down.

Starting point is 00:56:16 He was like, what the fuck is going on? He doesn't want to go for a fourth down. Jamis Winston, say what you want about Jamis, but there has never been a fourth down that Jamis did not have to be dragged off the field. He wants to stay on the field. His teammates, Deshawn's teammates look like they're fed up with it too. I don't think it's Stefanski's call at this point. No, I feel like it's probably above his head because he wasn't the guy that wanted Deshawn Watson there in the first place. He didn't like make that trade go through that sign and trade.

Starting point is 00:56:47 I think that's probably the owner. Yeah. I think that's probably where he's either not allowed to theories. One, Stefanski is either not allowed to take to Sean out, as the owner says not to or to Stefanski is so mad at the owner for making him take to Sean. He's like, no, you want to Sean? We're going to keep giving you to Sean so you can see how wrong you were. It's um The Browns are so unbelievably fucked

Starting point is 00:57:12 That's really the only way to explain it because the Sean is so bad I think even I think the Sean's so bad even like the last Bit of Deshawn defenders being like oh the offensive line. Oh this no, he's just bad He holds on to the ball so long. He takes sacks all the time gets lost He gets lost he get like he misses throws He's a bummer then he gets in front of them Like I don't know if you guys saw his postgame press conference, but he's like yeah We've got to keep taking what the defense gives us what you haven't done that once yeah the defense

Starting point is 00:57:44 There was no taking involved. No. So you just think it football. There was a tweet from Benjamin Solak. He said, I'm confident I can name 100 active NFL quarterbacks, XFL quarterbacks, college quarterbacks and retired quarterbacks, who would be better at quarterbacking the Cleveland Browns than Deshaun Watson is right now 100. I think that we should just try to name the worst quarterback that you think would be better

Starting point is 00:58:08 on the Browns right now than Deshaun Watson. I have a name and it's disgusting when I hear that. Peterman? Peterman, definitely. Definitely would be better. Yep. You don't think Josh Rosen would be better? No, I don't think, I think that's probably where he might be.

Starting point is 00:58:23 I think he's in business school now. One of the first ones off. I think I think that name for me is Desmond Ritter. I think Desmond Ritter would be better. Tim Boyle. Yeah. Get the ball out on time. It's it's any other Yates a hell. Oh, for sure. I mean, uh, not field Yates. Uh, TJ Yates would fucking dominate. Yeah. Field Yates also field Yates might too. Yeah. He could be better than DeShama. I'll tell you what, the guys with shoulders fucked the guys would like them more. Yeah. That's a fact. Like that's part of it. I it's just crazy. The Browns are in this situation where they're so unbelievably fucked because if any other quarterback was playing like this, he would've been benched and

Starting point is 00:59:06 they aren't gonna bench him. And it's crazy because like you said, the owner's probably putting pressure on Stefanski. Stefanski's in the worst spot ever. He's a really good coach and he's just stuck. There's a big enough body of evidence out there for Stefanski to say that he's a much better coach than this. Yeah, they were a playoff team last year with Joe Flacco. Yeah. It's crazy. How many of the names on that back, the back of that sad Browns Jersey, how many of those names do you think would be better than Deshaun Watson? Let's assume at the peak of their powers. Okay. All right. Maybe,

Starting point is 00:59:40 maybe the average of their career. Okay. Um, so Johnny football, Johnny football. I take, take it. Oh man, this is a Hank who's the worst quarterback? All right, Ty Detmer Spurgeon win Doug Petersen's on there. Is he really? Yeah, Matt Schaub. Kelly Holcomb. Jeff Jeff. Jeff Garcia would definitely be better. Yeah Trent Dilfer better Charlie Fry better. So Kelly Holcomb was not bad. No, bro. I'm Anderson better Ken Dorsey better Brady Quinn better. Oh Kosowski way better. Yep, Colt McCoy better Jake DeLone better Seneca Wallace better Brandon Whedon. Eh Maybe maybe he had he had a couple of flash

Starting point is 01:00:27 Kevin Hogan. Yeah, they're all, they're all better. Brandon Weedon is probably like 70. Now. Yeah, he was old. He was old. Connor Shaw. Yeah. I thought Carolina legend. I was like, damn, Sean Kaiser. Maybe that's it. Sean Kaiser. Yeah. Hoyer. Kaiser is probably. Yeah. Kaiser's probably. I would say Kaiser Josh Rosen. Not as good as Deshaun Watson. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad that Terry Bradshaw

Starting point is 01:00:53 said on Fox during one of the game breaks that he would put Deshaun Watson down. Yeah. Put him down. Now he a little bit miss spoke there because Howie Long was like, do you mean take him out like bench him? He's like, yeah, I meant bench him but I putting him down was

Starting point is 01:01:10 It didn't sound crazy when it came out of his mouth bring the tarp out onto the field Yeah, I I think that how he saves him. I think that Terry meant yeah, just like you know, he's all right I was a dog. Yeah, the Browns. Yeah, and also we saw that picture with Mike Vick and Jaden Daniels this week. Yeah What is the rest of the Shawn Watson's life look like? Let's see, like does he just go into hiding? I don't know might buy an island somewhere in the Caribbean. Yeah What do you do? You think the Shawn with any ditty parties? I Don't know They I think the Browns probably are hoping

Starting point is 01:01:46 yeah they'd be good to be good for your your body line if they could figure out a way to implicate him. Do we have our Johnny Fanta video? One of my favorite is the ones got to be a doozy. So we don't watch these until I think it was like three minutes which that's fine with me because I love Fanta. But he's got to be at the end of his rope here. Oh, he's got the Halloween set up in the background. I bet I bet Fanta goes but he's got to be at the end of his rope here. Oh, he's got the Halloween set up in the background I bet I bet fancy goes all out at how he definitely gives out full-size candy bars He's got the like sickest front lawn decorations. Yep Okay

Starting point is 01:02:17 Guys, I've got to tell you about the best way to spend your Sunday afternoon It's called the circus of insanity to spend your Sunday afternoon. Oh, I didn't watch it. It's called the Circus of Insanity. This is a brand new autumn activity in which you can spend 100 minutes on a Sunday afternoon watching someone try to do the same thing over and over again, believing that it may change one of these Sundays,

Starting point is 01:02:40 even against the National Football League's worst pass defense. Yes, worst pass defense. Yes, worst pass defense in which for a half of football, not 70 yards, were amassed. When will it end? If it hasn't ended now, it shouldn't end. Because at the end of the day, professionals or not, you all have jobs out there. You've worked on a project with other classmates or surely you've done something with your family, which everybody has to participate. And you know, if there's someone on your team or

Starting point is 01:03:17 your group that you simply can't count on. Sure, there's a lot of people in the Cleveland Browns organization right now. In fact, everybody, everybody except the punter, but Horkus doesn't deserve to get looped into this. Oh, everybody deserves some level of blame. But this is a quarterback league and if you don't have an answer at that position, you're not going to do anything productive in the NFL. Especially when the other team that you're playing has capable quarterback play. You could sit here and blame the defense.

Starting point is 01:03:47 They came ready to play. They came out and got a couple of stops. They came out with energy. They got an interception at the goal line. They tried to open your window of opportunity a little bit more. And instead, when your offense steps on the field, it is dark storm clouds. Why? Because the quarterback can't play.

Starting point is 01:04:04 He doesn't have it anymore. And the Browns won't rip the bandaid off. And if we can all realize it, all the people in that locker room realize and know it. Okay. I'm not that smart. And yes, it doesn't take someone smart to know that what the Browns have is a guy that's supposed to be a leader, supposed to be a quarterback, supposed to be a leader of a football team. And what that guy has done is totally, totally dissipate, shred away all of the momentum that you had 267 days ago when you were in a playoff game in less than

Starting point is 01:04:47 270 days your Cleveland Browns have gone from a playoff team with a loaded talented roster to back to being the pumpkin of the NFL brought it all together pumpkin of the NFL we're back to being the joke and all you could do is laugh I'm past being ticked I'm just chuckling. Oh Enjoy your Sunday Maybe find a pumpkin patch. Oh Thanks, Johnny done

Starting point is 01:05:19 Past being ticked. He's just chuckling. Yeah. Well, you got to do his laugh and it's it's sad if you're Browns fan You got you there's no hope this season as long as he's the quarterback. He's just chuckling. Yeah. All you got to do is laugh and it's it's sad if you're a Browns fan You got you there's no hope this season as long as he's the quarterback. There's just none and he's yeah, man Like don't even bring chub back. Let's chub heal up entirely it's crazy that the Browns felt like they were going in the right direction there for a second and now they're just and It sucks even more that like the Lions have figured it out and you thought What what like four years ago five years ago if you said who's gonna be? In a Super Bowl first the Browns are the Lions like Browns all day now, it's just

Starting point is 01:05:57 It's just sad even a couple years ago the Browns Yeah, it was nice seeing the Browns and the Lions come up together I know and then yeah, they just went right back to the slums. The Browns couldn't get out of their own way. Yeah. Pft. If the playoffs ended today, you would be the number two seed in the NFC. That's wild. It's pretty cool. It's crazy to think about. I'm definitely thinking Yofs. I am you have to I'm I'm I'm four and one four and one in a season honestly couldn't go any better for me. I I'm four and one four and one in a season honestly couldn't go any better for me I I'm so happy the weird sad part about as you know Like we talked about the Lions and the Browns

Starting point is 01:06:30 These are two franchises that have been beaten down into shit over the last 30 years or so I Have almost imposter imposter syndrome for having a good quarterback So I I wake up in the morning. I refuse to believe like this can't be happening Yeah, bad is gonna happen Chaps the other day was telling me like hey congrats on Jayden and I feel guilty I feel like I have to be like you had a good quarterback, too Yeah, I have to like lie and be like yeah, no, it's it's not that great. Like I'm not having that much fun

Starting point is 01:07:01 No, I'm having the fucking best time ever and I'm not sad about it But I do have this like lingering guilt in the back of my head where when I hear from fans of other teams that are like, I'm happy that you're finally tasting joy. I'm like, I can't, I can't think of it that way because I know exactly what it's like to be stuck in a shithole. Right. And I feel bad for, for people that, that have to deal with that situation. Cause I've lived through it for so long and I'm just, I'm reaching a point where, number one, it's awesome to watch Jayden play on. He brings me so much happiness in my life,

Starting point is 01:07:31 just watching him play out there. But also, every single time somebody hits him or when he runs out of bounds, You get scared. I think, what the fuck, no, not again. And there was a moment today where I had some very, very dark thoughts for about half a second when he ran out of bounds, his knee jiggled a little bit and then he reached and

Starting point is 01:07:49 he grabbed his leg as he did like a somersault on the sidelines and my life flashed before my eyes and I was like, this is, this is the work, my worst fears coming to fruition right now. So I am like, I'm, I'm dealing with, I'm learning how to enjoy having a good quarter. Yeah. You got to block that out. I don't know you're gonna just end up being Like someone who doesn't go out of their house because you're scared they're gonna hit by a bus. I'll be agoraphobic Yeah, yeah, you can't live like that. I'm trying not to and I'm working on it. I'm working very hard But yeah, this was it was another fun Sunday for me. I mean that he he makes me so happy Yeah, four and one my my special guy. Second,

Starting point is 01:08:25 second seat overall in the NFC right now. Top of the NFC East. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I'm loving it. Things have gotten, I am starting to also recognize their red flags that should be going up when you're enjoying something too much. Cause I did surpass one of those. When you buy a alternate Jersey for one of your third string players, I reached that point in Jaden's career arc today with Luke McCaffrey. I got an Arctic Camo Luke McCaffrey jersey. But you had to buy that.

Starting point is 01:08:57 I think that's going to be so bad. I think that's going to stand out. You see that jersey, you have to buy it. You have to get that one. When they sit in the NFL shop, they basically make make that because they're like at least we'll sell one Yeah I I want to see a breakdown on the NFL like on fanatics or on the NFL official site where it shows Like what percentage of their worst pieces of merch get purchased by me?

Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah, because sometimes I think they put things up there just for me to buy Oh, yeah, definitely and you try to get you try to buy it for us. I might be wearing one of them right now actually. Yeah looking at it Alright, let's take a break and we'll get some more games. We are brought to you by our friends at game time. Oh Hanks Phone is dead pfd. Can you look up the Saints Chiefs game? Yep, what the prices are so game time the exclusive ticketing partner of up the Saints Chiefs game. Yep. What the prices are. So Game Time, the exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports football season is here. You know how much we love Game Time now with their brand new Game Time picks feature. They're making it even easier to get to a game. Game Time picks filters out the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats so you don't have to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. We're looking

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Starting point is 01:12:12 Well, I so I thought the Jaguars would win this game because like I said, I thought it was Trevor Lawrence's Slumpbuster with Gus Bradley's defense that he knows well He did play well. It feels like he got out of his slump. He had 371 yards and two TDs. Also Doug Peterson, we've talked about his quotes and he's basically like just the this is fine dog every single week. I'll give him credit this week. He said there's a weight off everybody's shoulders. I bet there is. Because that was a game that you had to win. They almost Jaguared it in the end, but you had to win that game and they did win that. That's really nice. And so now this is 10 years since the Colts have won a

Starting point is 01:12:52 game in Jacksonville. So there were a few things. The Colts hadn't won there in forever. Trevor Lawrence's birthday and the Tom Coughlin ring of honor. This is all, this is a star's aligning. What's it called when the planets all get together? An eclipse. Yeah an eclipse. Yeah, it was like an eclipse down and they still almost lost this game They still almost lost it. They almost got flack owed Flacco looked pretty good again today. And at one point when he took off for the football He ran faster than anybody on the field flacco ran they said well Here's where I'm staying a little bit woke on the Amazon next-gen stats or whatever

Starting point is 01:13:26 Yeah, they said Joe Flacco ran 18 miles per hour. Yeah, that's really fast Imagine being on a treadmill and you turn it up to 18. Yeah, that's really really fast I don't think he was going 18. I don't think he was going 18 It also while it was happening in the moment. It was The same feeling I had like when my kids took their first step where I was very proud But also very nervous that there was going to be a really really horrific Accident and like a fall or something was gonna happen and we were gonna lose Joe Flacco So I was like clapping and I was like wait get down. I please get down. I just never seen this

Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah, it's been years It's probably been like seven years since I've seen Joe take off like that it was for me It was more like seeing your teacher in the supermarket. Yeah, you're not supposed to be doing that Yeah, what are you doing right now? That's not your game Joe It was the stat hole sent me the the stat It was the second longest run for the oldest so Vince Evans had I think he was a little bit older He had a 23 yard run in 1994 for the Raiders. So this was He had a 23 yard run in 1994 for the Raiders. So this was

Starting point is 01:14:30 The the longest run for the oldest player since then since 1994. Yes. Yes good So I mean listen Kevin Durant put it perfectly He said put flacco anywhere and he's gonna hoop he's gonna hoop. That's really what it is. Joe Flacco is I don't know how The Browns didn't keep him. I don't know how other teams didn't call. I know that you have to put Anthony Richardson back in because you're hoping that he becomes the future, but Flacco's the best and it's so much fun watching him and he actually has a ton of weapons and he was spreading the ball everywhere

Starting point is 01:15:00 through over 300 yards, three TDs. He's just the best. So it's so much fun when Flacco's playing in Flacco's last two games against the Jags this one and then also last year with the Browns. He's thrown for 670 yards and six touchdowns. As an old man, old man Flacco has their own Flacco representation matters. Good job. We learned he's a he's a 85 January 39. Yeah, nine years old. The Jaguars good for you. Yeah, that's that's the best thing I can say is good for you defense didn't look good

Starting point is 01:15:30 Trevor did enough but good for you getting a win. Yeah good for you We do that thing now where we show the circle of parity in the NFL where every team has like a link That oh no, I guess we got undefeated teams so we can't do the circle parity just yet which like this team beat that team we beat that team and then you make your way all the way through the league and you're like wow that's wild yeah that was king yeah he's yeah we finally popped the champagne not yet for for that because you have to wait for the Chiefs and the Vikings to lose oh no I'll just say pop the champagne for the lot for the Lions and the Browns defeated

Starting point is 01:16:05 teams. Yes, yes. Or I guess it would be like a Schlitz or something. They're going to go on the undefeated. Yeah. Crack open the mad dog. They get to keep it. They get to keep it. The Jaguars have won a game. Yeah, I was happy the Jaguars won a game. Feels like the locker room needed that. Um, as for the Colts, I, it is kind of a tough thing because they do have to go back to Anthony Richardson, but Joe Flacco is, he's still got it. The guy's still fucking got it. You got to say that Flacco gives you your best chance. Yeah. But then you have to go back to Anthony Richardson. Right. Because you're, you're not, he gives us our best future chance. Right. And also you spent a, what, a fourth, fourth pick overall. You can't,

Starting point is 01:16:41 you can't be like, Oh no, we're not going to play you because Joe Flacco gives us our best chance. You're not, you're not a Super Bowl be like, Oh, no, we're not going to play you because Joe Flacco gives us our best chance. You're not you're not a super aspiration team. You're a team where if Anthony Richardson becomes what you hope he becomes, then you're a super aspiration team. So you have to keep it. And also you have to pay him $100,000 for every win. So there's that Joe Flacco.

Starting point is 01:16:57 Yes, that's true. That Jim mercer looks at that. He's like, I could pay Joe Flacco or I could like buy one of Willie Nelson's harmonicas. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'd rather have a choice. I'd rather have the harp. Tough choice. Yeah. Good job, Jaguars. You won a football game on Tom Coughlin day. But now you're going for your extended stay in London. Are they playing back to back? I think they are pretty much a home game for the Jaguars. Yeah. They they so the Bears play them next week, but then I think they stay for, for two weeks, which that's gotta suck. There's no way the guys like that.

Starting point is 01:17:28 I would almost rather stay there for two weeks than just go over and then come right back. Yeah, true. I guess that's true. But it's still like every year you're like, all right, now we've got to go to London for two straight games. Oh no, maybe they aren't. Oh no, they are. Yep. They're playing the Bears and then the Patriots. What are their travel plans? Are they going over there early in the week? Yeah, the Jaguars have to have the travel travel plans to England locked down perfect. They have to have this point There's no excuse. Yeah get on Shad Khan's yacht and seal across the Atlantic There's no excuse for them not to just have it perfected for how much they go play there

Starting point is 01:18:00 But then again, it's the Jaguars. It is Jaguars, but Jaguars won and Trevor Lawrence Birthday that would have been the worst birthday ever if he just continued to suck. Yeah. Yeah, that would be bad That would be really bad. How old is he 25 for Trevor Lawrence? Yes, 25 drafted 21 there also were multiple times during this game that yes 25 years old That chaps are a good friend friend who's a Jaguars fan just kept on saying that's Jaguars football and it was always for the worst things. Yep. So it is just like he kept on saying the Jaguars also were some sick throwbacks today. Yeah,

Starting point is 01:18:35 real throwback. I like those are real actual pre Bortles throwbacks. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Real throwbacks. All right. Next up. Bears 36 Panthers 10. That was a really fun game. I don't know what else to say. That was, Caleb looked awesome. The Bears defense continues to be really good. I'll say something nice about Matt Eberfluss. The Bears have allowed 21 or fewer points in 10 straight games, which is the longest streak in the NFL. And yeah, this was the, obviously people were like, well, it's the Panthers. I don't care good teams are supposed to destroy bad teams. Yeah, that's what the Bears did today This was a must win. What are you saying? He was awesome the touchdown throw to DJ Moore was incredible

Starting point is 01:19:17 He had two touchdowns passing a touchdown running and yeah, it was fucking awesome He looked like he was so much. It was so much fun. So much fun. I was having fun. Yeah, he had a lot of fun. Also, credit to Matt Eberfluss, the Bears are now on a league high. Is it eight game home winning streak?

Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah. That's pretty cool. We keep winning games at home. We keep winning games at home. It's not bright. Also, he didn't have a touchdown running. I forgot it got called back. Okay.

Starting point is 01:19:42 Yeah, yeah. But then we ran it in. Because there was that moment after he got in and scored where he spiked it so hard. He spiked it so hard that he fell over. Yes, yes. But we got to work on our celebration. Caleb threw a couple dots today. He looked really good out there. And yeah, big double win for the Bears. Yeah, people want so bad for him to suck. And I just it I'm not gonna I mean, I know they're gonna say Panthers. I don't care. And the Panthers the fact the Panthers had Bryce Young in there It's just insult to injury at the end of the game

Starting point is 01:20:06 I I'm more I'm wondering if we've if Andy Dalton is turned back into a little bit of a pumpkin here He might have I mean the Bears defense is very good, but he's just Andy Dalton Yeah, and we had no negative plays no interceptions So I think Caleb only had one sack when he had some time Shane Waldron also Like he's actually calling some good plays We were learning how to run the ball in a heavy set on goal line after the debacle in Indianapolis two weeks ago I said this is a must win going in and they it was a laffer. It was nice to have a laffer I feel like the players confronting Shane Waldron actually did some damage. Yes. He was like, okay, I get it. I'm sorry

Starting point is 01:20:43 That's the thing is like I know the limitations of this team offensive line, the play calling has been suspected times as long as they keep getting a little bit better. And it looks like they're not just like, well, we are what we are. I'm happy and Kale Williams has gotten better every single week of the season. Uh, everyone's going to yuck my yum. I don't care. I'm as happy as I could be. He fucking looked awesome. Deandre Swift looked good. I do have one question for a person in this On the show, okay It could be anyone. It's yeah, it's a draft question

Starting point is 01:21:15 About the Bears and a player that was taken by another team. Okay, it could be anybody Are we ready to have the conversation that? Gravon Dexter is better than Jalen Carter? Are we ready to have that conversation? I don't know who that is. Okay, well he has significantly better stats than Jalen Carter. I'm just wondering if you want to have that conversation now or want to wait. We have no edge rushers. He gets doubled on every play. All right, so you you know what we'll save the conversation Jalen Carter gets doubled on what no save the conversation max your answer is no we're not ready to have that conversation You're not ready to have that conversation. That's fine

Starting point is 01:21:55 The Bears defense has been monstrous and Dexter has been a monster But we are not ready to have that conversation. We should have it at some point, but we don't have to have it right now Say Phillies I'm looking at Nick Cassiano's on the TV right now. Yeah, just so you don't want to have this conversation looking Nick Cassiano He's getting the water water because it'd be a shame if the our second round pick from that draft Was better than the guy that you try to sometimes say that we I haven't was the last time I said that that's that's you Projecting no I said that when's the last time I recently was last I haven't said that in a year Here I think you sometimes here look at me when you say Jalen Carter so good, and then you look at me

Starting point is 01:22:38 You give me a look Well, they're just learn learn who Dexter is and then we can have the conversation Okay, just say Philly's nice. I'm looking at look at Bryce Harper Well, let's just learn who Dexter is and then we can have the conversation. Okay. Just say Philly's, Max. I'm looking at Bryce Harper. There we go. I'm just kidding. Jaylen Carter does get double teamed a lot.

Starting point is 01:22:53 I do not think that Dexter's just been really good. I just wanted to shout him out. The Bears, as opposed to what we know about the Jaguars, the Bears are all over the travel schedule next week. Yes. They're leaving tomorrow. Yes. Getting a full week. Getting acclimated to that clock. Bears know schedule next week. Yes. They're leaving tomorrow. Yes. Getting a full week.

Starting point is 01:23:06 Getting acclimated to that clock. Bears know about sleep schedules. Yeah. Smart move. Also shout out to DJ Moore. And I have a new take on DJ Moore. I think he's just a little bit of a loner. He might be a loner.

Starting point is 01:23:15 He also has bad body language when things are. He's a bad body language all-star. But okay. So my good friend Mark Silverman, who I do my radio hits with waddle and Sylvie, he does, he is part of the broadcast team for the radio. And he took a picture of DJ Moore after he scored a touchdown sitting by himself. And he's like, look, like we, everyone's like, you know, psycho analyzing what DJ Moore thinks. He's just kind of a locked in loner guy on the sideline. Even in a good moment, he's sitting by himself, just, you

Starting point is 01:23:45 know, doing his own thing. Well, that might be the case. It also might be that he knows that he's not a guy that needs to be around other people when he's not feeling good. Yeah, but he was, but that was a moment where he's feeling great. Yeah, he had an awesome game. He tore up the Panthers. Yeah, Caleb had some absolute darts that he threw to moving around.

Starting point is 01:24:03 He also would pass up the seam. He also was like extending plays like he did at USC. Just it looked awesome I'm I couldn't be happier and I know people don't want me to be happy They don't want anyone to be happy on this show. That's okay if we're being honest, but that's fine Hank Big cat, you know what big can't can't he can't exist. I can't exist. I want you to be happy I want the Bears to be good. Yeah, I know you do but you agree people don't want us to be happy. No, that's fine though. Yeah, that's just the internet I get it too Cuz I don't want Matt. Well, I do want Max. I want Max be really happy for a little bit

Starting point is 01:24:37 Yeah, and then very happy and then No comment. No comment. No comment then. Because I want to be happy right now. Yeah. See? Yeah. The Panthers are back to just, yeah. Yeah. If you're David Tepper, just stop going to these games.

Starting point is 01:24:54 Because basically you're a giant target for every fan base to yell things at you and you want to pour drinks on them. Yeah. You really want to and you're going to feel bad if you don't pour drinks on them. So you're just, you're tempting yourself by exposing yourself to all that negativity. Yes. Just stay home. Yeah. Don't. Yeah. Just stop. Don't ever leave your house. Although Bryce Young was four for seven for 58 yards. Yeah. Bryce when he was in didn't look as bad as he did at the start of the season. It was yeah it was garbage time. The whole second half was garbage time. Like that was the

Starting point is 01:25:24 only I guess if I only had one critique about the game it felt like the Bears took their foot off Yeah, it was garbage time. The whole second half was garbage time. Like that was the only, I guess if I only had one critique about the game, it felt like the Bears took their foot off the gas when everything, they came out three and out and I was like, God damn it. And then Chubba Hubbard had that big run. And, uh, but then they scored four out of the next five drives touchdowns. And then, then the second half, they're just like, this game is over. You know what, you know what we did this week in big cat. We took care of business. We took care of business care business I'm serious like it was bad teams, but you know what you got to take care of business sometimes killing bad team still counts

Starting point is 01:25:53 It's the NFL that's just like it's hard to win in this league You're never as bad or as good as you think you are they pay those guys to play too That's what I was saying. All right, next up dolphins 15 Patriots 10. Yeah I Guess we'll start with the Dolphins. Good job winning a game Running the football. It looks like that's their new plan Jalen, right? Who was You know hyped up like all the dolphins got another fast guy. I think because a chain got hurt Jalen right was a stud

Starting point is 01:26:24 The Dolphins got another fast guy. I think because a chain got hurt. Jalen, right was a stud He had a 86 yards on 13 carries and it looked like the Dolphins were like hey Let's just try to run the ball instead of playing Like we usually play where we don't have a quarterback So good job. I also think Mike McDaniel needed this win very badly because I don't know if you guys noticed He has been just like so sad to look at every time they show him He has the biggest frown. Oh, yeah, you know, he looks he looks like at the same time depressed and also very confused Why it's not working. Yeah, like he doesn't get it yet. It's cuz two is not playing right That's a pretty pretty simple thing to figure out

Starting point is 01:26:59 I had an obstructed view for this game because of where the TV situation was. This is bottom right. I only heard about this game through people yelling at Hank to pay attention. So Hank, can you give me your rundown that you got also secondhand? I was watching. Yeah. Watch the whole thing. What'd you think? I was sitting right behind you. Oh, you watched the whole game? Yeah, he was there. He was there. I didn't know he was there the whole time. Yeah, he was there the whole time. Hopefully you didn't say anything bad. Um, Hank, question for you. I'm confused. I don't know. He's there the whole time. Yeah, he was there the whole time. Hopefully you didn't say anything bad Hank Question for you used I'm confused too. He was there the whole time. Okay. Yeah, he was in the back question for you I think you got to just put a Drake may why why I this makes no sense to me

Starting point is 01:27:39 Okay, well, and I first of all, there's a Patriots fans say that as well. I just don't. It doesn't. Did you make sense? Did you see the report that there was a potential mutiny in the locker room? This just seems like Boston media going. But this is when you have a guy who's better than the other guy that can happen. Like they're looking and they're like we don't have a chance. We're not competitive with Jacobi Percet. But really, we almost won this game. We did win this game. Jalen Polk was in, in the end zone as few were in bounds. So you're counting as a win. I'm counting it as like we didn't get blown out. If we were getting absolutely, you know, torched every week, that'd be one thing. But okay. So here's my followup. Uh, why wouldn't you put in Drake may injury risk,

Starting point is 01:28:23 injury risk. Okay. So when will it it be when will your offensive line be better enough to not have the injury risk? Next year, that's crazy to me. I Know why you sit him for an entire year. I mean you can play him at the end of the season I but the injury risk would still be there what I'm saying Like if you're gonna there's less games to get injured God you're minimizing the risk I kind of agree with Hank that you don't need to put in Drake may because you lose the locker room. Well, you could lose the locker room because the guys that are like catching the passes blocking running football, they see a guy that's not that good.

Starting point is 01:28:57 And they're like, well, this is affecting my paycheck now. Correct. The fact that we can't do anything. Well, the guys blocking aren't gonna be getting many more paychecks. I don't think it's a valid point That's good point. I just don't know as a fan Hank I kind of agree with the fact that you don't you don't necessarily need to win games of Drake made this season No, you don't I'm not talking about winning games I'm talking about getting Drake may like wouldn't you rather Drake may play this year take some of his lumps learn the NFL game So next year you can hit the ground running Yeah, then give him three games at the end of the year. Okay. I think you know put them in blowouts maybe

Starting point is 01:29:30 Week five week six because now and this is loser talk. Oh But go on we're not gonna win. We're not gonna. We're not thinking the office. We're not gonna make the playoffs Can't be the best At the actual game of football, but it's nice to go on a website and see your name at the top of a list. Do you think if you go to the NFL draft order right now, number one, wow, look at how this is changed. So Hank, tell me, it's kind of Hank, tell me about your big board right now.

Starting point is 01:29:58 Yeah. You are on the clock. If the season ended today, anything can happen. Not looking at Tankathon for like this season has been so nice So you're you we've just done a Freaky Friday switch. So who do you want Hank? You're on the clock? I think you probably got to go with the best player in college football Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, you had a bye week this week, but we don't forget that he is the best player in college football That's a good point Hank or Hank are you thinking trade

Starting point is 01:30:27 Belichick would trade what about she door would you take she door no why not we got a QB. What about a line? And why wouldn't you like trade trading and getting a lineman is definitely that's a Belichick move Yeah, yeah, you don't want to door because she doors kind of Travis hunter merchant You know yeah, Travis are so good that you know it can't help it be awesome But I feel like you get should or and then you trade Drake may before he starts If you play a little bit yeah, no I trust in Drake man. I just it's a process It's a process you can't you know room wasn't built in the day starting in week six and him getting smoked So when did you find to this tank of thought when did you find out about Tankathon?

Starting point is 01:31:06 I just googled NFL draft order. I didn't know what Tankathon was. Oh, okay. You got to go on Tankathon. Gives you all the details. Yeah. Wow. Look at our boy.

Starting point is 01:31:15 He's all grown up. This is Tankathon right here. Yeah, Tankathon number one. Wow, the Bengal's number two. He's not looking. Oh no, I am looking. This is the website. This is the website I was on. Do we really overrate that week one win for the Patriots?

Starting point is 01:31:28 Yeah. That's crazy. That is kind of nuts that you beat the Bengals and you're one spot ahead of them at one and two for the draft. Yeah. Yeah, this mock draft, New England Patriots, Travis Hunter.

Starting point is 01:31:40 Wow, because he's the best player in college football? Yeah. That would make sense. Makes sense,. Yeah. Yeah, the Scouts know Um, I don't know what the door Sanders to Cleveland. I don't know what the Dolphins play. I mean someone had to win this game, right? Kind of yeah, technically it was you could have tied Yeah Did you take the over in this game? No, yeah, that was crazy to think about and has the thought across your brain that the Patriots have not won a home game since

Starting point is 01:32:07 you were the keeper of the light. Oh no. Is that true? Regular season? Yeah. No it hasn't. Has it now? It has now. Shit. Also very funny in this game when the Patriots kicker missed a 33 yard field goal There's never even a chance and Hank just goes that's when you should have known he was there He's like it's windy there and then they had the replay and the flag would couldn't have been deader Just limp flag

Starting point is 01:32:41 It was a tough game to watch. Yeah, I was ugly. I mean I wasn't I was watching I wasn't I don't know that I was paying attention the whole time Yeah, we're the the stands were full According to The app I was looking at before it said it was a sellout 66,000 people. Oh good sports time. There you go Hank have you watched any of the Aaron Hernandez show? No, just the clips that you've sent it is I have to watch it. Is it all out? It's not all out yet No, okay, so I think we've got it's on FX Hulu. Yeah, I think it's on Hulu. But it comes out like once a week. But I think we're up to like five episodes now. How many

Starting point is 01:33:13 episodes total? Don't know. When's Kirk's episode the last one? Okay, I judging by Hernandez timeline, I would guess the last episode. Yeah, they're gonna do him dirty. They're who Hernandez? No, I think they're gonna do Kirk dirty probably Yeah, so it's one of my favorite shows. It's awful It's really really bad, but I can't stop watching it because it's so fucking funny How they portray like people that we know the actor they have playing Belichick is laugh out loud funny The actor they have playing Robert Kraft. I think they just got a guy and they said

Starting point is 01:33:44 We're gonna just spray paint your hair white and then we're gonna spray paint your body orange. You sent us that clip, that was incredible. And the on-field stuff is so funny when they have these actors that don't play football, trying to play football. And I'm gonna guess that the guy they have playing Hernandez, who's not a bad actor, but he runs, conservatively speaking, probably like a 5.840. And they have him repeatedly running the 40-yard dash. It's one of my favorite shows in the world. I love it.

Starting point is 01:34:13 Oh, okay. So episode six, that's the one Kirk's in. I think I might just watch that one. Just the last one? Yeah. Yeah. No, you should watch the whole thing because Kirk for the listener. Kirkmanhand. Yeah. So he's on the IMDB. He's our colleague and friend and he's going to be in the last episode because I think he said that he was a he was he works for bars. Now he was a radio host in Boston at the time and the Hernandez

Starting point is 01:34:37 stuff and he had the report that Hernandez might be gay and then Hernandez committed suicide like two days after and so I think what the FX thing is gonna do is try to like put it on Kirk which will be bullshit but I think they might. Yeah I don't know but most of the show is just about how gay he was. Okay. I'd say. Oh so then they won't? Probably not. I'd say 60% of the show is like Hernandez liked to smoke a lot of weed and because he was gay All right, I gotta watch it. I do love cheesy terrible television Yeah, it's and they got this dude playing urban Meyer. That is a cartoon character of urban Meyer They got Arnold Schwarzenegger son plays Tim Tebow. Okay, there's a great job

Starting point is 01:35:18 Just pretty much the entire time be like coach is right. Oh man. All right, I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it It's not good. Yeah, no, no, I like bad television. It's bad. But it's really, really good bad television. Yeah, I love bad television. I mean, I'm the our good friend Rob Lowe, and doing the Drew Peterson. Yeah, the you know why they call me big daddy. I thought you're saying you're Rob Lowe in the stands wearing a hat that just says TV bad TV. Yeah, I do love bad TV Okay, so don't start drink me. Not yet. Okay, when we when will you tell us when? Double digits game in the seasons. Okay Chico percent does I'll say one thing about Chico beer said he gets fucking kill

Starting point is 01:35:59 So that's why I think that they're having him plays because yeah, he looks I Want to say like somewhat competent? Yeah Understands the I almost said he knows the offense I don't know somewhat competent would be what I would say he understands the offense and He's a big guy. So when he gets hit he's not getting broken in half So if they were to put Drake out there, they might be like Drake is a little bit smaller Not built to absorb those hits I feel like he understands the offense in the sense like he could if you tell him a line he could repeat it back But then if you asked him to like write down the full offense, yeah or execute it. Yeah

Starting point is 01:36:38 It's just not it. It hasn't been good. Like it's not good fun football watching at all. It's a pretty big bummer. But you're you've got the right mindset tankathon. Yeah. And at least you know, it's much worse for Dolphins fans because they look terrible and all they do is lose a QB. Yeah. Like if if you would think with you know, Mike McDaniel, Boy Genius, all these weapons they could string together some wins Genius, but they look bad. Yeah. No, it is true. You'd rather be the Patriots and the Dolphins. Oh, that's bold Wow, right. I mean even even with the mutiny It depends on if the Dolphins end up getting a new quarterback Seems like they still have enough talent to be good, but their

Starting point is 01:37:26 talent's getting their talent be like a year older. I don't. Yeah, you might be right. Because I feel like you're doing a full rebuild because the Dolphins feel like I don't know if to like is to we're going to play again. And then if he plays again, is he gonna get hurt again? And then it's are we gonna do the whole thing again? I think to wants to play again. I think he's his intentions are that he's going to come back and play. But I'm going to play again. I think he's, his intentions are that he's going to come back and play, but I'm going to, the entire time is on the field and we'd be like, please don't, don't get hurt again. But it does feel like the dolphins are kind of stuck. They are a little stuck and the Patriots, if they're, if there is in fact a mutiny,

Starting point is 01:37:58 then that might actually impact like the full rebuild because you're not going to fire. I don't believe you, Although you would want one person's mutiny is that's another person's patriot. You would want the mutiny though to be on the side of your rookie quarterback. That's the one good thing. That's true. They are galvanizing around him and maybe leader. Maybe they'll just fire everybody that was on the mutiny. That would be hilarious. There was actually a mutiny. Yeah. And they're like, you're not the coach anymore, Mayo. Drake May is the coach.

Starting point is 01:38:26 You think they'd go straight to May? Yeah, just change one letter in his office. That's true. Yeah, just scrape it off the door. Yeah. Okay. Afternoon games. Cardinals, 24.

Starting point is 01:38:36 49ers, 23. This was the quintessential, you're never as bad as you look and you're never as good as you look because the 49ers kicked the shit out of the Patriots last week the Cardinals got their ass kicked by the commanders and the Cardinals walked in and won this game and their defense was incredible in the second half shout out Jesse Lukita who had not played a single game and was the guy who punched out the ball for Jordan Mason, which basically changed the game because the 49ers were going to score. They didn't score. They stopped

Starting point is 01:39:09 in this entire second half and Kyler's running. Kyler's throw, that fourth down throw Kyler made to Marvin Harrison was awesome. Yeah. Kyler's looking good. Yeah. He's looking good. Was it the first series of the game that he took off for that touchdown. Yeah. And he knew he was gone. He's like, nobody's catching me from behind. See you. I'm out. On the other side, Brock Purdy feels like he's got a lot on his plate right now. Yeah. So I feel like the Niners have taken offense

Starting point is 01:39:36 that was built around having a sick-ass, beautiful running game. And then Brock Purdy not screwing things up and being like, Brock Purdy, go out there and have a sick-ass, beautiful passing game. And a running game won'ting things up and being like Brock pretty go out there and have a sick-ass Beautiful passing game and a running game won't screw things up. Yeah, I don't think I don't think that's a formula for the Niners Yeah, they did get Brandon. Are you going in the first half? So that was good because that was the first time he felt like it was like oh shit Yeah, this is Brandon I you could get but yeah, I agree with you. I I think we're also at the point where it's like the Jordan Mason's been good, but Christian McCaffrey is Christian McCaffrey and then you have these moments where like the fumble

Starting point is 01:40:12 And just the the game of inches where Christian McCaffrey is special and losing a special player like that You lose games like this and at the goal line when they're having him do some of the stuff that Christian McCaffrey used to do Don't do that. Just give him the ball and let him run Yeah Instead of like splitting him out wide into the slot and then having him do those little option routes that McCaffrey does so so awesomely Yeah, don't ask Mason do that. Just hand the ball to Mason. Yeah, the good news is For the 49ers first of all the card Cardinals. I feel like this was a huge win It was the first time they beat the

Starting point is 01:40:49 49ers in a few years. It was also a huge win just because the Cardinals felt like they were teetering on the, oh shit, this season is going to really suck. Winning this game puts it back to, oh, maybe we could do something here. They're kind of fun. The 49ers as a two and three team still good and The NFC West is completely in flux So you haven't basically you you're not gonna get the one seed But you can still very much win the NFC West the fact that the Seahawks are only a game ahead of you And you play them on Thursday. I have the Niners as my top two and three team in the NFL Top two and three and then the Jets on the car probably corner. And then the Jets probably. Well the Cardinals just beat them.

Starting point is 01:41:26 Yeah, but so the Cardinals feel like, I still have the Knights ahead of me. Cardinals literally just beat them. But I'm talking about in terms of just total team. They played them and they beat them. It was hot, it was really hot. But they beat them. It was really hot.

Starting point is 01:41:38 The NFL wouldn't let them wear their white jerseys. That was the difference. They decided who was better on the field. Yeah, but they wouldn't let them wear their white jerseys. That was a difference. They decided who was better on the field. Yeah, but they wouldn't let them wear their white jerseys. I have the Cardinals is better than the Niners.

Starting point is 01:41:49 This might be controversial. As of, so it's interesting you said that because like seven hours ago, I had the Cardinals as a better two and three team than the Niners, but they flip-flopped after the game was over.

Starting point is 01:42:00 Got it. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the Niners wanted to wear the white jerseys in the 100 degree weather. The NFL said, no, you got to let us know before the season starts if you want to do that. So the Cardinals got to wear it. And then they had you see Kyler on the sidelines had his two guys whose job it was just hold a portable tent over his head. Yeah,

Starting point is 01:42:18 at all times on the sidelines. That's good work. That is good work. Also, if you're 49ers fan, Kyle Shanahan teams have, I know recently it feels like they've started fast, but here are his records in each quarter of the season. Kyle Shanahan, games one through four, 17 and 15, games five through eight, 10 and 18, I guess that's 10 and 19 now, games nine through 12, 17 and 11, games 13 through 16, 20 and eight. So the teams get better. Yeah. The teams get better as the year goes along.

Starting point is 01:42:48 But still a bad loss. They were up 13, and they didn't score in the entire second half. Bad loss. Kyle in the red zone, he was just calling some weird shit tonight. Yeah. It was really strange. I feel like, I don't know. Kyle needs a guy.

Starting point is 01:43:00 He needs to have a full time coach that just stands next to him and says, run the ball. Yeah, run the ball. You're on the one yard line run the fucking ball Okay Broncos 34 Raiders 18 the Broncos jerseys. They should wear the only those jerseys They were so nice and Bo Nicks has arrived. Yeah, Bo Nicks is fun I don't know. I still don't know if he's good or not, but he's fun. Bo Nicks is fun certified Yeah, stamp it and when he wears the throwback uniforms are awesome

Starting point is 01:43:26 I don't if you saw this did you see the throwback injury cart? No, they had a throwback Oh really heart that had the giant Broncos blue helmet on that's awesome And it was also like an old-school looked like a bullpen part cart kind of like a Buick type body frame I love like maybe an old Bel Air But it was sick. It was just a good look and they also had another throwback today, which was they had, I believe the first white cornerback to get an interception in 22 years. Whoa. Since Jason Seahorn. Whoa. And it was funny because Minshew threw a pick to Riley Moss and then Minshew immediately got benched after that. Yeah. So that's the line. I was gonna say is that the most depressing quarterback controversy? I don't even know if it's a controversy but

Starting point is 01:44:12 Gardner Minshew and Aiden O'Connell. Yeah, that's just a bummer. And I love Gardner Minshew. I think Gardner Minshew should just don't don't make him start too many games. It's not fair. Don't make him start too many games. It's not fair like you have to know the limitations of what someone can do and him starting a bunch of games Don't do it because here's the thing you can't get a spark from Gardner Mentsch if he's the starter and You can't get a spark from O'Connell if he just comes into the game. He's not a spark guy, right? The only way you can generate a spark is if Gardner doesn't start then you put him in

Starting point is 01:44:50 Guess what? You just got a spark. You just got the spark so you can maybe tell AOC all week He's starting and then I don't know day of the game be like we're gonna give the ball to gardener, right? And then you got a spark right and the spark happens. Yeah, it's just Feels like they're asking too much of them. They might I bum me out and he also got caught maybe eating his pokers on the Sidebar did he realize yeah Yeah, he went straight from nose to mouth. It's a bummer nose to mouth. It was as clear as day What was it the raccoon that they found? Yeah, there was a raccoon a rally raccoon before the game nice It was climbing up the stands looking spry looking chipper, but Bo Nicks I don't know do you think he's good or

Starting point is 01:45:25 do you think he's just fun? I think he's, um, I don't, I, can I say neither? You don't think he's fun? Mmm, no. I think Bo Nix is a little bit fun. I watched too much Bo Nix in college think he was fun early at Auburn, then he was kind of just, he's like good-ish. Yeah, but I don't know the some about him the way he runs around out there like he actually looks like he's on cocaine. He was Auburn Bonix was very fun. Oregon Bonix was more. But these guys more buttoned up than ever. He got married and he just he threw the passes that were there. Remember Brock Purdy? Guys can change. Yeah, again, the league. Yeah, listen, he had a good game. You have

Starting point is 01:46:04 to give credit like in the Broncos defense is we've been hyping it up But the Broncos defense is a very very legit unit Patrick's 10 is incredible that hundred yard return Was awesome like they their defense will keep them in a lot of games and they could they could be a sneaky Playoff team in the conversation. They're in the conversation that we're having right now. If they keep those throwbacks, they're more in the conversation. But yeah, I the Broncos defense is legit and and it feels like as long as Bo Nicks keeps progressing, the Broncos for the first time in a long time, probably since Peyton Manning have a little bit of hope. Yeah. And that's good. Yeah. And it's really good. Yeah. He's

Starting point is 01:46:45 he's one of my favorite players to watch. Yeah, they got a big one against the Chargers next week. So that will be who can be basically who can be the chiefs bitch. That's a big battle to win. But that's a that's a like a great prize to get. Yeah. If you're the team that division that everyone else is always disappointed for not beating the Chiefs, right? That's a good place to this passing. It could be the passing of the torch. Yep. Go shit now It's the Broncos watch out for them but yeah I'm pumped for the Broncos fans like the

Starting point is 01:47:14 Throwbacks were great and the end zones were cool and their defense awesome and Bo Nicks had a great second half They had three touchdown drives. Mm-hmm. so good for them Brock powers also is sick And it's too bad because he doesn't really have a quarterback yeah, but when he caught that pass in the first quarter That was nice also Max Crosby should just win defensive player of the year because he's doing it like On a bad team and just keeps wrecking everyone I think he has after he has a sack and ten straight games or something I read it. I don't know yeah And I also feel like Max is one of those guys where if he's a game time decision and he plays He has one of his best games. Yeah, he had two sacks today. He's a fucking beast. He's an absolute beast

Starting point is 01:47:54 Okay, should we take oh, yeah, that was great. There was a moment where Bonax was talking to his offensive line Audibling and Max Crosby just stood up and said, both speak up. They don't fucking know. Can you, can you play the audio? I love Max Crosby. Damn. That's gotta be so emasculating. Yeah. Max Crosby. Damn. That's gotta be so emasculating. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:48:29 opponent is coaching you up. Yeah. Because you're being too timid at the line. Yeah. Fucking speak with your chest bow. Your rookie. Come on. Ah, they should wear those uniforms every week. Every single week. That should be fan. Fans should get to vote on this where it's like, Hey, this is the uniform that we're just going with. Yeah. What was the other thing you said about a fan today? Was it on that kickoff where they had to get a guy out on the field to hold the ball? Yeah. So we had that, uh, there was a moment. What game was super windy? Uh, Patriots. Oh no. It was bills played in a dome. I can't remember which game it was, but there's a new rule with the new kickoff rule. If it's super, if it's, but there's a new rule with the new kickoff

Starting point is 01:49:05 rule. If it's super windy and they try to tee it up and then it falls off, it might have actually been the Bears game. A 12th guy's allowed on the field to hold it and then he has to immediately run off the field. Yeah, you got to high tail it off because if you don't, they can penalize you. This would be a wild scenario. If the guy that's holding the ball, he's not an actual player on that play. He's just kind of like a piece of equipment. So he's helping hold the ball. If that guy were to actually make a tackle on the kick return, the refs could throw a flag and award a touchdown and say, this is like unnatural to the game of football. We're going to step in. We're going to count as a touchdown.

Starting point is 01:49:43 So this is actually an idea from our good friend Sam Schwartz, because he created this new kickoff and he, when, I think it was like over the summer, he texted me, he's like, hey, I think they're gonna do this where you can have a 12th guy and like, they should make it so that a fan can win a contest. I like that. And it would be incredible.

Starting point is 01:50:02 Imagine if one of us were just fully padded, running out onto an NFL field Just to hold the ball problem is we'd have to hold the ball. Yeah Well, I'd be like we'd fuck that if we fuck that up. We already talked about that. We're we'd be really good at holders Mm-hmm, it'd be sick really good I'd wear gloves would never drop that I'd wear gloves if they had the mascot do it in the full mascot uniform That would rock to that would be sick or they should make the owner do it. Yeah Virginia McKesson would never get off the field.

Starting point is 01:50:27 Yeah, some of them can't get off the field. That would be so great. David Tepper just running out there having to see his team face to face. They say that you can't, you know, if you make a tackle as that player, then it could be a penalty. What about hitting that guy on the way off the field? You should be able to. Just absolutely light up David Tepper.

Starting point is 01:50:47 God, that would rock. Yeah, it'd be cool. If we had fans out there. All right, before we do the last two games and talk Steelers, Cowboys, Pifty, you wanna do a couple of ads? Yeah, before we get to these last games, they're brought to you by some of our best friends

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Starting point is 01:52:28 to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelpHELP.com slash PMT. Okay, last couple games, Giants, Seahawks. Look at the New York Giants. How about that? They had the ball for the entire first half. Listen, a lot of times Seahawks play weird fucked up games. And there was a crazy play that happened in this one.

Starting point is 01:52:50 There's two crazy plays. But in this game, the Giants kicked their ass. Yeah. From start to finish, the Giants were the much better team. The Seahawks looked bad on offense. The Seahawks looked bad on defense. Daniel Jones played one of the better games I've seen him play recently.

Starting point is 01:53:05 Yes. The Giants were just very good today. Yeah, no, it was a bookend of crazy plays because we had the Giants have a 94-yard drive to the one-yard line, fumble at the goal line, Seahawks pick it up, run it all the way back to start the scoring and then to end the scoring, the Giants, who is the guy, Ford Wheaton I believe, jumped over the center, perfectly timed it and blocked, basically ate the football, blocked the tying field goal and then Isaiah Simmons picked it up and scored a touchdown and it was like Giants did it in all three phases.

Starting point is 01:53:44 Yeah, it was sick. So did it in all three phases. Yeah, it was sick. So on that last field goal, I went back, I watched the replay of it. You know what happened on it? They did a very smart play. It's technically not legal, but it's smart what they did. After the snapper snaps the ball, you're not allowed to block them. You're not allowed to push them.

Starting point is 01:53:59 There were two guys on the Giants that were pushing, one guy was pushing down on the back of the center that snapped it, the long snapper, and the one guy was pushing down on the back of the center that snapped it the long snapper and the other guy was Pushing down on the back of one of the guards keeping them low and then they jumped over their head Blocked the kick and it got returned because if you touch the center, it's a penalty It should be a penalty Yeah to touch the long snapper within like I think a second or so of him snapping the ball Yeah, longer than that. But yeah, they did a very smart thing that wasn't called. It looked like when you fuck around in Madden and you just go off sides to just be like,

Starting point is 01:54:30 fuck it, I just want to block this no matter what. It looked so easy that I thought to myself, why doesn't every team just do that? Right. And it also, it was a quintessential play that if you're a Seahawks fan, you watched it and for at least three minutes you're like, so they're going to gonna throw the flag right? Yeah. Like the flag has to come out. This can't be, this can't be how this happened. Yeah. It was, it was a wild play and this also now we've got a trend in the NFL big get have you heard about the trend? No. The Lions hangover? Oh, so yeah. I love these. I love these. Okay, so so the Rams they played the Lions then they lost the Cardinals 41 10

Starting point is 01:55:07 right the Buccaneers they Beat the Lions and then the next game they lost the Broncos. Yeah, 26 to 7. Yep, the Cardinals Lost to the Lions and then they lost the commanders 42 to 14 Lions and then they lost the commanders 42 to 14 now the Seahawks lost to the Lions on Monday night football and now they lose to the Giants Wow so Lions hangover it's I think it's a real thing so it sucks that they're on a bye week because we can't follow this trend right now can't follow the trend but we should remember this is an old trend that would happen with Alabama actually Brett

Starting point is 01:55:41 Pielma's team in Arkansas I would play this trend because they would just Play like cement mixer games where they would just beat the fuck out of teams and then they would just be so beat up The next week yeah you'd go against them you got no kneecaps left after you played Yeah, and this is where i hank can you put in a reminder can you try to do that sure? Yes, who do the lions play next week? Let's look that up on the old schedule. Oh yeah and then find out and then we gotta, we gotta go against them. Against them the week after. It's a two-step process. You got that Hank? You feel good about this? So the Lions play the Cowboys

Starting point is 01:56:19 next week. Okay and then the Cowboys play in the Cowboys play Cowboys play Fuck they're on a buy damn it all right, so I'm not gonna count that as being part of the trend god damn it No, you can't So then they play the Vikings the week after and then we'll have to bet against the Vikings a week after that Vikings are if the Vikings are on a buy I'm gonna they're not thrown up by this week. Oh, yeah, that's right. No, then the Cowboys play the 49ers Yeah, I know But they're there on a by have boys have a buy in between the Lions and the 49ers to get healthy from playing against The Lions got it. It's like the Vikings are on this whole week like this. Oh, they went over to England

Starting point is 01:57:01 They're giving the Cowboys that whole week off because they just had to play the line Vikings play at the Rams short rest Oh, there's a night football. Love that Wow Hank. Please remind us to hammer the Rams Hammer the Rams on October 24th Hammer might put that in now hammer. We got a look ahead line Draftkings does have some look headlines. I don't think they have that far look ahead, but hammer them. That might be one like Cooper Cups back Puka. Yeah, hammer. Yeah, good for the Giants. This was the first time the Giants had a 100 plus passer rating for a quarterback 100 yards plus rushing 100 yard plus receiving receiver in the same game since 2014 damn damn it's been a minute that's a long time

Starting point is 01:57:54 it should have been worse because I think the Giants scored a touchdown on that fumble return yeah I think the ball was on the line when it was knocked out but they for some reason some stadiums just don't have sideline cams and down the goal line I don't know Tyron Tracy was awesome running back big ten he played for Iowa and Purdue but he was he was filling in for Singletary and he had 129 yards and like Giants had a good game plan Dable could still coach did you see the funny video after Dable shutting down the Instagram live in the in the locker room I did see see that. Yes, I turned that better not be posted Yeah, that better not be live. Yeah, like yeah, that's exactly what it going live in the locker room

Starting point is 01:58:29 It's just such a weird move. So it is especially because there's this new what's this whole fight that's happened So that was gonna be my who's back of the week. Okay, let's save it. We'll save it. Save it Yeah, and as for the Seahawks, I don't know if they're bad or just super, super injured, but their defense was gashed and their offense couldn't really get going until the very end. I don't really know what to make of the Seahawks. I don't think that they're bad. I think they just played the Lions. Yeah, but their defense is getting gashed.

Starting point is 01:59:00 I mean, the Giants are not like an explosive team and the Giants were able to move the ball up and down the field I still don't think they have a lot of injuries. They have a lot of injuries. They have a lot of injuries I know that I think that for a fact see ox are gonna be in the mix. Yeah, I would agree. It's just I Don't know. This is maybe when like it's like you have a guy like Gino or Sam Darnold There's always just like a nagging piece of you. That's just like what if what if they're back to that version? Yeah, you're gonna. You know what I mean? Yeah, you just can never get it out of your head And I I don't think Gino was but he was under pressure Instantly almost and he got sacked seven times and he was incredible the week before against the Lions

Starting point is 01:59:41 But there's just something in the back of your head. That's just like I don't know We saw a lot of it. Yeah, we submit but it's you up mentally. Yeah, cuz like again, he wasn't I Think it like he wasn't great today, but it was also he was pressured like crazy And they just felt like they didn't never had the ball in the first half never got into a flow DK was kind of shut down By what's his name DK was kind of shut down by what's his name? DK look kind of weird today. Deontay Banks. He's had one really well.

Starting point is 02:00:09 One of those weird games. But yeah, there's just something in the back of my head. It's just if they shake it. If either one of those guys walked out wearing their old Jets uniform, you'd be like, get them off my team. Yeah, right. Uh, yeah. What the fuck?

Starting point is 02:00:20 Uh, okay. Uh, last game Packers 24 Rams 19 Now I know the Packers won and I know Jordan love looks great in the second half That pick six was so fucking funny and I loved I loved it so so much. It was a great one. Wasn't it? It was It's a gunslinger. It looked like he was playing for Tennessee Titans. Oh, I know what you're saying Yeah, I was what you're saying. Yeah, I was going to say look, it was, it was far vesc. Yeah, but he just, he avoided getting safety because the, that was, that was also just

Starting point is 02:00:52 a perfect encapsulation of how much new rules suck because the defender didn't want to hit him too hard because you never want to get a penalty, uh, got bounced backwards and then just threw it up into the other defenders hands for a pick six It's like you got knocked off balance. Yeah, you know, it was very very funny He was like horizontal when he threw that too But then he did bounce back and the Packers looked very very good until the very end wouldn't somehow the Rams snuck back in this game Yeah, you just find that the rain you can't get rid of the Rams the Rams are Number one needed to buy. Yeah, so they got the bye week. They're one and four then they have a ton of injuries

Starting point is 02:01:29 They need to get healthy. They needed to buy very bad I also I hate to compliment the Packers in any way but Xavier McKinney probably should be defensive player of the year if he keeps this up because he Has an interception in every single game so far. Yeah, crazy would have any good defense guys for you. Nuts. But the Packers deserve credit because they don't usually go out and get free agents and they got him. And he has been very, very good. And I think, yeah, I don't I the Rams are just, it just shows like, they can lose all these this talent. But if you have a good quarterback and coach you can always be in these games and like Stafford wasn't even that great today but I don't know if they

Starting point is 02:02:10 get healthy they could maybe start start rattling off some games I'm happy they're my pinky team the the magic was the Ravens the word I would use for the Rams would be pesky yeah they're pesky you got to be ready to go, if you if you let him hang around their professional football team, they are they're very much a professional football team. But yeah, the Packers I think I think Jordan love is gonna as fun as that pick six was. I think he's starting to get like warmed up and the knee injury is like because he kind of did the same thing last week where the first half he wasn't looking great. And then he got warm and everything started to get a little easier and made some big throws Tucker craft happened that that

Starting point is 02:02:50 that passage Jane Reid was sick in the first half. That was a great throw. I'll say it. Say it out loud. And they got a tight end. Tucker craft was very good today. Yes. Yeah. So good, good games all around. Just a fun football Sunday. Fun football Sunday. Max, do you want to talk baseball real quick before we wait for the Cowboys and Steelers game to finish? It was a pretty uneventful day. All right, here, rowback question.

Starting point is 02:03:16 RHOBACK.com promo code take. 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com. Max, you're back alive. Alive. We have a pulse. So Saturday sucked for you because you were on the stream in New York. Company man flying all the way there for just a stream.

Starting point is 02:03:37 By the way, after performing with Mount Joy on Friday. Oh yeah. You guys rocked. That was sick. That was fun, Max. You guys were awesome. PFT was like, Pft is like just as good a guitar like anybody. Yeah That's not true. Yeah Ripping it. See you rave on Pft. Yeah, that's what they say

Starting point is 02:03:56 Max took his hair down and when he let his hair down and start head-banging I would that freed me up max Yeah, we fed off each other. I was just yeah I'm free to rock and roll now because Max is leading the way. The Mount Joy guys came by during the day, awesome dudes. Awesome dudes. Awesome, awesome dudes. An amazing concert. If you, any AWLs out there, go to a Mount Joy concert.

Starting point is 02:04:19 Great fall music. So I wasn't able to be there because I was going up to Madison to have dinner with some friends but I was listening to Mount Joy on the way up because they are great road trip fall music But I saw the clips I watched all the clips biggest smile on my face because just great seeing the boys fucking rock I think they're probably my favorite Philadelphia sports fans Yeah, and they're such cool dudes. They're the nicest guys in the world. Yeah, also they I Heard a little story now in Chicago you hear about the Dave Matthews band Dumping the shit on the bus or on the the boat of people. Yep

Starting point is 02:04:51 They were going on underneath the Kedzie Street bridge on the on the Chicago River I feel like I have to educate people about something that I learned The fact that it wasn't actually Dave Matthews is tour bus that did it It was their violinist tour bus that did it and Dave Matthews' tour bus that did it. It was their violinist's tour bus that did it. And Dave Matthews, being a stand-up guy, has taken the blame for it for all these years. But it was Dave Matthews' band. His violinist had his own tour bus. But he's in the band.

Starting point is 02:05:16 He's in the band. And Dave probably at the time couldn't say, you know what, it actually wasn't me, it was my violin player. That would have seemed kind of weird. That guy would have been in a lot of trouble. But the fact that he hasn't said it over the years and has taken the blame for it stand-up guy That is stand-up guy move also full story They emptied their septic tank on the bridge and it went on to the architecture boat tour. Yeah. Yes I know but yeah, me me me. Yeah, probably was one reset for people listening like the fire

Starting point is 02:05:44 I feel like it's I feel like the day Matthews band tour bus Stories like Pete Weber. I didn't know about every day Chicago. Yeah, yeah, I moved to Chicago I did it was it was 800 pounds of shit and piss. Yeah, the gray water fell onto tourists. Yeah terrible Terrible yeah, but your Phillies congratulations. Yeah, so sorry so playoff baseball You know what let's talk Phillies last uh Guardians killed the Tigers, but they I think scubal is going Monday so that they should have a chance there Yankees struggle with the Royals

Starting point is 02:06:19 But one game one and then we have the Padres Dodger series which has all the bad blood that I love Dodgers one game won. And then we have the Padres Dodgers series, which has all the bad blood that I love. Dodgers won game one. Padres hit a thousand home runs game two. Fans were throwing shit onto the field. Yeah, this series is gonna be awesome. Bad Sports Town? Max, I'll step in for you. Imagine if Philadelphia did that.

Starting point is 02:06:41 I was trying to look up who the probable pitcher was for the Tigers. What were you saying? Dodgers fans were throwing shit onto the field That's fucked up if that was in Philly it would be but then Padres fans were throwing it back which or Padres were throwing it Back, which was awesome. I like that. Yeah, they should they should be allowed to do that. Absolutely should be allowed to do it Absolutely. Um, I saw another thing. Yeah, it is it's scubal on Monday. Okay, I saw another I saw it tweet Someone said it was like People in the Dodgers were throwing shit onto the field. So then the Padre just started hitting home runs into at the people

Starting point is 02:07:14 Yeah, yeah, it's good one Yeah, that is good. That also might be what I meant by throwing it back because that's what I read the same thing And I thought they were literally throwing. Oh, okay. That's probably what I That's what it was. I Throwing I thought they were literally Okay, that's probably what I think that's what it was Throwing shit back, but it was a weird like long delay. Yeah Who's the Padres left fielder profile? He was talking shit after he robbed that home run, which is awesome and also kind of a Smoltz I think said it on the broadcast if any fan there was wearing a glove

Starting point is 02:07:47 Wouldn't happen. Yeah, good point. So you should be wearing a glove if Harbaugh was there. Yeah, he was A bye week, right? He was hard balls got a glove. You should have brought him to the game. He should have been there But yeah the and then we have the Mets and Phillies The game one max well, I was was watching you on that stream the whole time it was painful to watch you because I Think I saw it in your head when Schwab or hit the home run to start the game You're like, this is gonna fucking rock. Well, yeah because in the NLDS last year Like we just hit so many home runs right and you're like this is gonna rock

Starting point is 02:08:24 This is how it's going to be. We're better than them. We're going to fucking hit. We're going to mash home runs. These aren't the Brewers. I think that was your exact words. But then the light started to go out of your eyes as the game got longer and longer and Wheeler was dealing and you just weren't hitting any more home runs. And I think you knew deep down you're like, this is setting up to the worst and that's what happened and then tonight I actually think Max tonight might have been the the like the shift in the series because the Mets did what they've been doing I see this that they have 44 comeback wins this year it's insane Mets did what they do. They were down six, four, and

Starting point is 02:09:05 they tie the game in the eighth. And, uh, you guys still, or was it the ninth? They tied in the ninth. The ninth. We were two out, we had two hours to go. It was going to be like, Oh, here are the Mets. This is a team of destiny. This is what they do. But you guys might've killed that because you staved it off and won. I don't know if we killed it, but I think that we showed that we can also be resilient. You can also be a team of Destiny? Not Destiny, but like... No, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 02:09:32 You beat them. You're the team of Destiny. You might have stolen Destiny from us. You get team of Destiny. You can't be a bi team and be team of Destiny. Yeah you can if you beat the team of Destiny. If you beat them in a team of destiny type fashion which you did tonight that way we can always have the team of destiny win and we can say hey look we were right team of destiny see

Starting point is 02:09:51 this way if the Mets come back and they beat the Phillies then they just took the team of destiny back from you guys right if you beat the Phillies in the if you beat the Mets in this series you're now the new team destiny then let's say the Padres beat you now they're the team that I can see them be then they get to the World Series and The Yankee Guardians beat him Guardians were always a team of destiny see how right we were I think really the only team that can't be the team of destiny is the New York Yankees. Yeah, I'm done listening about this Or Dodgers can't be this either either, yeah. But this game was awesome. The Phillies were show dead.

Starting point is 02:10:26 Like zero life on any one of that team. And then Bryce Harper hit the home run and it was incredible. The whole team started the hit as soon as Bryce did. Cassianos was amazing. Yeah, Cassianos, absolutely, two drives to left, right? Well, he hit a home run. A home run. And then the walk-off, like the hit a home run. The walk-off's single. That's what I'm saying. How did Jimmy Carter survive two deep drives to left by Castellanos?

Starting point is 02:10:50 That's insane. Crazy. Nothing can kill this man. Also earlier in the game, so Philly fans were very pissed, as you could imagine, after scoring like one, basically one run in a game and a half. Yeah. And Castellanos was getting a lot of shit for swinging at balls and a half. Yeah. And Cassianos was getting a lot of shit for swinging at balls in the dirt.

Starting point is 02:11:07 Yeah. And he laid off of one and the crowd erupted because it like mocking him. And the camera cut to him and he was just shaking his head and saying these fucking guys, like talking about the fans. Yeah. And then right after that, he had like the best game of his career.

Starting point is 02:11:23 That's all up. So all the Philly fans are being like bullying work. Last year, it was bullying works. Last year it was it was Trey Turner that you guys willed back through rounds of applause. Right. And this. No, you applauded for him, though. Yeah, I guess it was. Yeah, it wasn't a it was a mocking up.

Starting point is 02:11:40 Yeah, but still Philly applause. It gets the job done. And then Max Max delivered an all time showing showing on the stream too because he just he got closer and closer to the TV to watch As the game went on and he was just he was sitting Crisscross is looking like a big baby. Yeah, like in a me. I mean that in like not you're a baby I mean literally looking like a big baby sitting baby side Yeah, it was great. Yeah, like a three-year-old sitting down trying to keep your attention while they do colors Yeah, we should stick with that baby style

Starting point is 02:12:13 That's good for you Max and people love it when Max gets like this We haven't seen him like this in a while But when he gets the best when he gets so excited and happy that he actually gets mad like you're I don't know if you Know this about yourself Max, but your natural reaction when good things happen to you is you get mad you get angry at I don't know who you get angry at you have to be angry at somebody oh he gives the hardest high-fives ever and you get the scowl on your face he tries to hit through your hand yeah you're so happy that you're extremely upset yeah and I And I love it. Baseball is just, there's so many moments

Starting point is 02:12:45 throughout a game and it's, it's really, it's, it's tough. It's tough. You fought. Yeah, today was a good one. To fight for this one. Today was a good one. I mean, it's still any one series. Gotta, gotta take one in New York. Gotta take one in New York. Well, you literally have to. Literally. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you don't take one in New York the series is over is over Alright, so next game must win Yeah actually Actually, I mean actually like you lied about the other one

Starting point is 02:13:14 Sounds like you lied about it. Well, yeah because we didn't win and I'm not it's not over. Okay, I told you that though Yeah, I thought it was must win but now this one's who's on the bump? We have who's on the bomb? We have Nola on the bomb. Oh, let's go So we say good again. Yeah, he's good Oh, we switched him. He normally would be our to our Second pitcher but our second pitcher is really bad on our third pitchers really bad on the road and really good at home So we had him go pitch second at home and then Nola got Nola to go and who do the Mets have memes said he thinks Manaya. Okay. Max I'm confused though

Starting point is 02:13:51 when you said that it turns out that game one wasn't a must-win because then you can come back and win another one. Wouldn't that be the exact scenario that we're talking about going to know but like Rangers Suarez has been pretty bad in the second half so and Nola's been good. So you don't want to rely on a situation where like they think Rangers Suarez will probably only go like four innings and then it's a bullpen game and our bullpen's been really bad.

Starting point is 02:14:14 So that's why tomorrow's must win. Got it. Yep, it's Nola versus Manaya. Okay, got it. Okay, we just finished the Steelers Cowboys game. The weather delay game, it's past midnight. That was going to be the most Steelers win ever when who was it who knocked the ball out?

Starting point is 02:14:35 That was one of the coolest goal line tackles. The linebacker, Troy Palamalu. Troy Palamalu with the haircut. One of the coolest tackles I've ever seen, but then Dak clutched up and, uh, won the game. I would say Dak clutched up twice. Yeah. He clutched up by recovering that fumble. True. And then he unclutched for a second. He unclenched when he skipped that ball in about five yards short of Tolbert,

Starting point is 02:14:59 his receiver in the nuts off the ground. Cowboys took a time out in part to let Tolbert's nuts recover because he was not able to walk out there. And then yeah, found him in the end zone. Crazy ending. But yeah, that would have been the perfect Steelers game. And it feels like the Steelers play games like this every single week where they do nothing on offense. They have like one or two decent drives and their defense just plays their lights out and they get one or two huge turnovers and win the game and you're like Are the Steelers good? Well the

Starting point is 02:15:29 Oh shit Jordan Lewis Cowboys cornerback said Pittsburgh needs a receiver George Pickens weak because George Pickens did try to fight the other team after the game which was Pretty stupid pretty standard for George Pickens Yeah, but this is this does feel like the good vibes. Steelers starting 3-0. Justin Fields looked good. Kind of fell back to earth tonight because the Cowboys came in with a bunch of injuries.

Starting point is 02:15:55 They were underdogs. Steelers are ready to go and a winnable game that they just don't have enough offense for. Yeah. Again, couldn't run the ball. Justin Fields was not what we saw in the first three weeks. And they didn't play like terrible, terrible, but it just, their offense just was tough to watch. It looked like a lot of Steelers games that we've seen.

Starting point is 02:16:21 Right. It looked like a ton of Steelers games. And the Cowboys might have saved their season because if they had lost this game not only would they be two and three and two games back from the commanders but also you would have had an entire week of CD lamb Dak Prescott discourse after CD lamb I think he yelled jump ball, jump ball after deck press got read CDs route wrong possibly and threw an interception in the first half. And then CD Lam basically went 25 minutes without getting a target after that.

Starting point is 02:16:55 Yeah, that's all we would have talked about this week. All we would have talked and it almost went in it twice in very, very Steelers fashions. The first time when Dak ran out of bounds at like the half yard line. And then we almost got the fumble through the end zone, touchback rules in the game. That probably would have been a more appropriate Steelers ending because it'd been just like a little bit weirder. Uh, but yeah, the Cowboys, they did, uh, they did what they had to do. Mike McCarthy wins his homecoming game. And, uh,

Starting point is 02:17:23 who was it? Was it Damian Woody that said last week should the Cowboys start tanking? Who? I guess not. I guess probably not through through just the end of September. They probably are the Cowboys better without Michael Parsons. They might be better without Michael Parsons. They might be better without Michael Parsons. But it did feel like because especially because the Cowboys have coming up the Lions and the 49ers. This was a game they had to have because you know Lions and 49ers especially if the 49ers get desperate Lions off a bye then for at 49ers you could have been staring at you know a two and two and five record

Starting point is 02:17:56 yeah especially because then you have to play the 49ers after you played the Lions correct correct which we've oh no that's the bye week it's the bye week yeah that's why we talked about did you see George Pickens I black tonight? No. Oh my god. All right, so George Pickens He's one of my favorite players to watch in the NFL. He really is one of my favorite players But he's definitely not one of my favorite play. He does just crazy shit every single week Yeah, and this week they zoomed in on his face for a second and his eye black said Open fucking always across. Oh not always fucking open. black said open fucking always across it not always fucking open it was open fucking always okay and when i look at that i think to myself why did he write

Starting point is 02:18:32 it like that i think he knew that when you look at yourself in the mirror that you're supposed to be able to read things backwards so he wrote the last word first but he didn't write the letters backwards in them got it so it's just the last word first, but he didn't write the letters backwards in them. Got it. So it was just the last word first, then fucking right across the bridge of his nose. Then always. I would imagine he had someone write it for him. You don't think he put it down and then wrote it with a marker and then took the eye black off the adhesive? Maybe. That's what I think he did.

Starting point is 02:18:56 Or someone on the equipment staff. But yeah. Yeah. That's- I don't know if any team employee would have written that on his i-blade. Probably would have been like, hey Mike, am I allowed to write this? I think if George Pickens asked you to do anything you probably just do it Yeah, probably but yeah that that that's aggressive. I blacked it's a game where I don't know what I don't think he did much at all it feels like George Pickens just they take a couple shots to him and

Starting point is 02:19:22 Either all of them miss or one of them will hit and they're just like holy shit he's awesome yeah three for 26 yeah with he also got a face mask after the end of the game he grabbed the Cowboys guy he's gonna get fined yep that'll be a fine also good job Chris Collins worth and Mike Trico for staying up they mentioned that like seven times mm-hmm oh man all the coffee that we've drank. It's like maybe an hour later. It's football. It was an hour, hour and 15 minute delay.

Starting point is 02:19:50 Yeah, you got to watch football tonight. You're fine. It was a perfect ending to a great football weekend though. I feel so satisfied with football. Listen, we would never complain about having to stay up late. It is 12, 10 right now. I could use a game right now. If you told me there's a game right now, I'd be like, let's do it.

Starting point is 02:20:04 I'd watch. All nighter with the boys because there's just something about a Good game. It wasn't a good game, but it was a exciting game in the end Ending where you just have that moment where you're like fuck I can use some more football I could always go for a doubleheader. I guess what we got one tomorrow night Yeah, and we have one the next day and the next day. And then, yeah, that's right. 55 days.

Starting point is 02:20:27 All right, let's finish up with Who's Back. PFT, you got one last ad for us. Yeah, Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by Coors Light. Love Coors Light. Mountains are blue. Mountains were blue at Mount Joy on Friday. Max and I had some Mount Joy blue mountains. It was fantastic. It's fantastic cold beer

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Starting point is 02:21:42 Pick them. Celebrate responsibly. Coors Brew company golden, Colorado All right, who's back the week Hank? My whose back the week is brawny James. Yeah The NBA preseason is happening. So he has been getting his first Minutes of NBA experience. Yeah, it's not going well. What do you mean? And this could just be my algorithm and my anti LeBron

Starting point is 02:22:07 You know Life that I've lived mm-hmm But I saw a video that went pretty viral of just breaking down how like bad he was and it's just in the first Preseason game he played in terms of like spacing passing mm-hmm court Everything so everything he was doing was, was, was bad. And yeah, I mean, he's not an NBA player, but he's on an NBA. Yeah, I know. That's, it's crazy. I agree with you. Yeah. Like it's, it's, he's bad. Really, really bad. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:22:37 They had a moment where they stood next to each other when they both got in at the same time tonight. It was James and then James jr. LeBron went up him stood next to him with his jersey right and he knew that there were cameras behind him Yeah, but probably a pretty cool moment for LeBron. Yeah, very cool But like is it does he have those moments now and he and then and they're gonna get rid of him No, he's definitely staying How long can you how long can you keep that up as long as LeBron's on the Lakers? It would be very funny if LeBron traded his son Who would trade for him? Yeah, good point

Starting point is 02:23:08 He's gonna report came out that said the Warriors wanted to take him a din out of respect for LeBron Oh, wow and came from LeBron. I think it was also LeBron saying if you draft him, he won't play for you No, he Hanks, right It was LeBron is saying because he wants people to back off on the idea that he wasn't going to get drafted. So he said, yeah, yeah. That was definitely LeBron reporting that. I want to see him play. It'll be fun. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Especially like if he costs him a game, that'd crazy It'd be really crazy. Yeah, and if he LeBron controls JJ like they're saying then That conversation is gonna happen. Yeah, by the way Hank. I know we talk college football wins it but congrats

Starting point is 02:23:56 Thank you. Huge win. Thank you. Big upset Yeah, I mean you it's always good to be the defending national champion. Mm-hmm Did you watch it? No But it was big one it was a big one yeah, they're your huskies I'm happy for my huskies. Is there a moment that you get into college football or no? Mmm, no, okay. That's fun. I thought maybe like sometime in like like when golf ends Yeah, probably. Okay. No, it's been beautiful weather. It has been gorgeous I think it's gonna take like the Sun

Starting point is 02:24:33 Like you have Belichick coaching your team if like Tom Brady's son was the quarterback then you get into it. Yeah, that'll be your team Yeah, all right PFC your who's back. My who's back of the week is attacks on the First Amendment. Oh Because they're trying to limit freedom of the press the NFL PA is trying to tell the media where they can and cannot go and The place that they cannot go is in the locker room anymore. Don't we do this every few years? So it says over the past three years The NFL PA has tried to work with the NFL and the pro football writers of America to move media interviews out of the locker rooms.

Starting point is 02:25:09 However, there has been little willingness to collaborate on a new solution. Players feel that locker room interviews invade their privacy and are uncomfortable. This isn't about limiting media access, but about respecting players' privacy and dignity. The NFL's current media policy is outdated. We call on the NFL to make immediate changes to foster more respectful and safer workplace for all players. In the meantime, we encourage each player to ask, ask for interviews outside locker room during the week. So basically, what's happened over the past three years is the NFL PA is like, Hey,

Starting point is 02:25:41 can you let us put our pants on before you interview us? And the journalists are like, no, absolutely you let us put our pants on before you interview us? And the journalists are like, no, absolutely. That's when you get the good stuff. When you're interviewing a fully nude man, they have no choice but to be honest with you. And so now the NFL has not really been able to make any ground with the NFL, with the writers, the pro football writers.

Starting point is 02:26:02 And so the NFLPA is now just saying hey If you're a naked player in a locker room Tell all the writers that you'll talk to them after you put your clothes on God size the locker room. God it is it is kind of weird that in sports We just send journalists in the locker rooms when players are literally naked and they're like, hey Now is our time to interview you like imagine if we interviewed somebody naked on part of my take yeah I mean, they're not naked There's people in the background that might be naked, but guys aren't naked they have towels like yeah

Starting point is 02:26:33 Yeah, I mean, I don't think I don't think reporters Go up to him when they're naked. I think it happens. I don't know what that. I think it happens fully naked I think it happened. I honestly part of me obviously understands yet's weird that the reporters are in there, but I also think that those usually get the best quotes and the raw reactions in those moments. That's true. Where it's like you'll, if everyone can compose themselves, I guess it falls on like which, what are you looking for? Are you looking for cliches and guys being able to have like 30 minutes to collect their thoughts? Yeah, I guess that would be fair to the players, but I also kind of like

Starting point is 02:27:13 when a player says something crazy right after a game, because that makes for the best stories. And that's what we get to talk about. Yeah, when they're getting, when they're furious after a loss or when they're like very, very happy right after a win. you get better stuff for sure I just think it's strange that there are people that are actually like nude in the locker room and then the reporters are just like Walking around them. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people in those locker rooms. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah I couldn't understand the debate when I saw it. I was just like what's going on I what are we gonna because it feels like are they gonna stop it or no well they're telling all the players if

Starting point is 02:27:49 you feel uncomfortable tell the reporter I'll do my interview later got it yeah but I don't think that there's any change it's so the reporters still can go in there reporters can still go in there and I also think don't they give them a little bit of time before they open the locker room I think they do like instant I think they give them a little bit of time. And then that's when most of the guys actually shower. And then they come back from their shower and get changed. Got it. Yeah. All right. My who's back, because they didn't have one is that I just always I don't know. Do you guys do this on Sunday nights when you when we leave and finish? I just look at next week's

Starting point is 02:28:19 slate right away. Yeah. You want to look at it real quick? Yeah, let's do it. All right. So we have this the another perfect setup of a London game and then six games early and four games late, which I love. Yep. Not the best slate, but I want to I want to point to a couple bucks Saints. Also 49er Seahawks on Thursday, third for ICX Thursday Buck Saints commanders Ravens early Lions Cowboys in the afternoon is gonna be awesome. And then Bengals Giants will be fun because Bengals are fighting for their life I like that. Yeah, my who's back is always just more football. I do that every single Sunday night I just go look look through the next week Maybe even look a week ahead sometimes too, just to get excited about it. Texans Patriots Hank, that will be big. Huge. And then yeah,

Starting point is 02:29:11 Bill's Jets next Monday night. Get right game for you, Max. Yeah, Eagles Browns baseball foot Phillies. Phillies. You just Phillies just got to do it. I'm Focused focused My voice is also cooked. Yeah, you got to take a day off. You have a day off. You just scheduled day off right now Alright great show boys football What a fucking week What a weekend of football can't wait to talk to college football Wednesday. Shout out Vandy. Shout out Vandy What a school post and that's that's late late I was just looking at that slate for this weekend. Oh, yeah college

Starting point is 02:29:47 This is this is the best looking slate of college football games. Maybe I've ever seen Yeah, no, I think two weeks from now is even better. Is it better? I believe so Georgia, Texas That's pretty good. Oh, I'll say Oregon's gonna rock But yeah this I mean, but that's the thing with college football this week was supposed to be a bad slate and it was incredible. Yeah, this is the best weekend so far just went nuts. Everything went nuts. Yeah, wait, no, that's not two weeks. That's, that's it's uh is it two weeks or no it's I'm looking right now let's look at it this is fun just looking at future football slates you oh yeah Oregon Michigan Ohio State Penn State is this where the George the Bama I don't know Ohio State Penn State is yeah November I don't know so I don't know what means here we go October 18th we've got

Starting point is 02:30:46 Georgia Texas we've got Miami Louisville we've got Alabama Tennessee Michigan Illinois that's a good slate good slate I think this upcoming weekend is the best slate though. Yes, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. Alright, numbers. Five. Seven. PFT and memes, you ever gotten this? No. Eleven. No. Three.

Starting point is 02:31:13 Memes hasn't gotten it anywhere and that's not talked about enough. That's a good point, Matt. That's not talked about enough. Yeah, that's even more impressive. No, you've never. What's the guy's number that got the big hit tonight? Stott? 99p.

Starting point is 02:31:24 Uh, I don't know. That's alright. that got the big hit tonight? Stop? 99 put. Uh, I don't know. That's alright. Numbers are stupid. Uh, I'll go 23. 21. Hank, what'd you guess? 7. 47. 47. See you all on Wednesday. Love you guys. I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star

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