Pardon My Take - NFL Week 7, Deshaun Watson Goes Down, Lions Keep Rolling, Russell Wilson Is Back + Playoff Baseball And Who's Back

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

NFL Week 7 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes then recap every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:09:06) Jaguars 32, Patriots 16 (00:09:06-00:26:08) Lions 31, Vikings 29 (00:26:08-00:37:53) Packers 24, Texans 22 (00:37:53-00:46:56) Bengals 21, Browns 14 (00:46:56-01:03:37) Colts 16, Dolphins 10 (01:03:37-01:09:13) Eagles 28, Giants 3 (01:09:13-01:17:54) Bills 34, Titans 10 (01:17:54-01:21:31) Seahawks 34, Falcons 14 (01:21:31-01:26:59) Commanders 40, Panthers 7 (01:26:59-01:37:51) Rams 20, Raiders 15 (01:37:51-01:48:48) Chiefs 28, 49ers 18 (01:48:48-01:55:09) Steelers 37, Jets 15 (01:55:09-02:08:37) We have a World Series as the Yankees and Dodgers advance (02:08:37-02:27:05) then we finish up with who's back of the week (02:27:05-02:44:59).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, week seven of the NFL. We're going to talk all the games from Sunday. We've got some playoff baseball. We have a World Series set. We're going to do Who's Back of the Week. We're going to start with fastest two minutes. It's a Monday morning with PMT and it's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The NBA is finally back. A new season means new ways to get into the action of DraftKings Sportsbook and official sports betting partner the NBA. Who's draining threes from beyond the arc? Who's crashing the boards and grabbing rebounds? Get behind your favorite players and

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Huh, boom. What do they call? How co-educated. In Detroit, where the offenses went gulf as Aaron Alex Jones said, I've got the touchdown documents right here. Starting the scoring for the Vikings in the first. It was a back and forth affair as Sonic and Knuckles ran through the Vikings defense until David Montgomery got the coins Hit out of him on way to an Ivan pace of play touchdown

The game came down to a decision by the psycho Dan Campbell to stay at the Bates Motel as Jake sealed it with his leg and the Lions are a top the NFC North Lions 31, Vikings 29. We go down to Atlanta for a bird fight where the Seahawks may be beaking at the right time. Did Jason Tatum send a text before the game? Because Kobe Bryant picked off Kirk Cousins as Seattle went mamba mentality on the Atlanta offense all afternoon. Bijon Wilkes Booth Robinson ruined a couple really nice plays from the Seattle defense running out of the pistol formation, but it wasn't enough as Busson

with the Boyet Maffei, Undress Kirk Cousins, and the Falcons will need to see a tailor to get looking right again. The Seahawks 34, the Falcons 14. Up to the frozen tundra where the Packers wore their winter warning jerseys to welcome in 75 degree weather. Josh Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. His name is my name too. Whenever we go out people always shout there goes Josh Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. Into the end zone for a pass for the first time in his career.

Joe was doing mix on it scoring two touchdowns while Tucker Robert Kraft ran a nice rubber out for a tug and got some love in the end zone from his quarterback. With the time winding down, Brandon Walker McManus staved off a migraine due to the sunny conditions and mild weather and won the game for the Packers Green Bay 24 Houston 22. To Western New York where in honor of Josh Allen's 100th career start, the Bills acquired Super a Mario Brothers Cooper who took a page out of the Aaron Rodgers playbook eating some mushrooms making the Buffalo offense look a lot bigger and stronger. The Bills defense came out in the second half looking very demure, very mindful as Hamlin got an interception and they shut down Mason big

country Kyle Rudolph. Going 10-0 in the game, no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills as they score 34 straight. The Bills 34, the Titans 10. We go across the pond to Henry Lockwood from London. What's up boom dude? Over to Wembley Stadium where Drake, Maggie May made a first class fool out of the Jaguars defense in his first drive. Capping it with a touchdown to Jemmike call me hasty! Brian Thomas Shelby, I don't know whether to go boomer or British, he had no limitations in the second quarter, scoring on a 6 yard touchdown.

And much like his namesake, the British Centurion, Tank Bigsby dominated the competition, scoring two touchdowns and making the Patriots wave the white flag. Jaguar 32, Patriots wave the white flag. Jaguar32 Patriots 16 Thanks Henry! Thanks Henry and also thanks Boom and also thanks British Boom. Thanks British Boom. We head back stateside to the Metal Lands where Max is live for the Eagles and Giants. In his return to MetLife, rich homie Shie shake one said let me flex on the giants

uh... uh... uh... a jay said what can brownford do for you as a touchdown delivery was expedited on fourth and three from forty yards out finally brice huff and puff and blue daniel jones down to get one of the the Eagles eight sacks of the day. Eagles dominate 28-3. Thanks Max.

Beck also stateside in San Francisco where the purty little lie going around the league is that the Niners are still good. Kareem Bergen, Hunting Fish Club said, murder, what murder, as he ran for two scores through the San Fran defense. Patrick Daylight coming me wanna go my homes, stumbled and bubbled for a long run and telling everyone to read a book. Andy, off a buy, is free money. I wish I'd learned that lesson beforehand, Boom.

It's coming up on Halloween, his most favorite time of year, Boom. Chiefs 28, Niners 18, murder? What murder? We go over to Indianapolis where Anthony Eat The Richardson is stealing money from my good friend, billionaire Jim Ursy. Don't tell Rob Schneider, but there was a boil spill as Tim came in. Relief for Tyler Huntley. He's not that old.

He's John New as Smith scored to take an early lead But the Colts had something to be on say about it as Matt gave my name gave my name Had three field goals and Alec Baldwin Ingold isn't technically liable But he did drop the ball when he took a shot at a big play Colts 16 the Dolphins 10 Cots 16, the Dolphins 10. Standing on the corner, Jamis, Wiss, and Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. It's DTR, my lord, Jamis only for use in case of emergency. Come on Watson, your Achilles pop song. Keep the trainers far away from your crotch son. The Bengals 21, the Browns 14. And that was the fastest two minutes week

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there were some business decisions happening on the Jaguars defense and I was like, Doug Peterson is so fired. And then I forgot that the Patriots also stink and Trevor Lawrence ended up looking great and the sort of Brian Thomas, Ryan Thomas might be the best rookie wide receiver now that Malik neighbors missed a couple of games. Marvin Harrison is like either he scores four or three touchdowns or doesn't catch a ball. Brian Thomas is the real deal, looking awesome. But yeah, the Patriots stink and Hank, bad news, Gerard Mayo used the S word, called your team soft. They were soft. Is that a bad thing? Said we're a soft football team across the board. We talk about what makes a tough football team and that's being able to run the ball, being able to stop the run, and that's being able to cover kicks. We did none of those. Is it, are you saying, is it a bad thing to be a soft football team?

No, I don't think it's a bike. He's, he's, he's, he's right. Yeah, no, he's correct in what he's saying, but it's always a bad thing to have it be said. It's a bad reflection on his coaching that the team that he coaches is soft. He also saw our good friend final Berg pointed this out to me last week and I've been monitoring it. Gerard Mayo is I think the heir apparent to Jim Caldwell. Is he alive on the sidelines? Because his face never changes. Yeah, he just kind of stares off into the distance. I agree with

Hank. I don't think that he is I don't he's not wrong. It's early to be pressing the s button though. Yeah, well, although this could what's that old the old saying it's like hard times create soft people. Yeah, soft people create soft times. soft times create hard people. Yeah, so you better hope that you're that's where you are times. Soft times. Hard times. No soft times. Wait, wait, soft times create soft people. Soft people create hard times, hard times create hard people. You better hope that's where you're at. Yeah.

Is the hard times, are you guys getting harder? They need to get harder. It feels like we're getting softer. Softer is not good. I know. Cause that's soft people, which then leads to hard times. He's also a defensive coach, defensive player when he played in and the defense is the softest of them all. You're in the soft D. Yeah. And this, in this, in this entire length, you're, you're the, you're soft people creating hard times for yourself, but we haven't had hard people created out of those hard times. Yeah.

I mean, it's a process. You got to get a hard guy. You got to draft a hard guy in the draft. Do you think, um, well, Jerry Jones to take a look at him. He'll tell you. Drake may look good. Drake may did look good. Yeah. So that's, and that's really all that matters, uh, outside of being a soft football team. But yeah, you lost to the Jaguars who were got smoked by the Jaguars. Look like they were ready to quit, ready to fire Doug Peterson. And, uh, but Drake may look good. That's what you have to just when you put your head down on your pillow at night, you should be like, Drake may

look good. Yeah, losing the London game first thing in the morning is just no no fun way to start a football Sunday. Yeah, it's not. No, it just it puts you in like a bummer mood just to right out of the gate. There is a way for soft teams to win in the NFL though. If you just embrace the gunslinger mentality of Drake may Yeah, you just spread them out. Tell Mayo to put the spread on shootouts.

I don't know that we're shooting out. We got it. We got to go through some more hard times so that we can create hard people's what would you say though? Now losing the Jaguars is definitely bad because the Jaguars are bad. But wouldn't this you don't really want to win football games, right? No, you kind of want to lose and get the number one pick and take Travis Hunter probably. But you, you like, you just want Drake made it look good and he did and he looked good. So the first drive was exciting. It was like, Oh, let's go. Yeah. First thing in the morning. I'm happy. I quit. Yeah. And then they didn't quit. And credit to you, Hank, he did call the trap game correctly. Yeah. Uh, the Jaguars is as bad as the Jaguars

are they're better than the Patriots definitively. And they were acclimated and they were acclimated. Uh, and Trevor Lawrence did look good. He had one of his best games of the season. Tank Bigsby absolute monster. Do you know tank Bigsby's real name? I yeah, I heard it this morning. It's it's somehow so tank Bigsby was was named tank Bigsby because It's a classic story that you could have you could have just you knew it before you even read it It was his dad basically. He just ran around when he was a little kid and like bumped into things I was gonna guess fine. I was gonna guess fine I was gonna guess grandmother. Yeah, it was I think it was aunt and dad Like he would just run into things and then shake it off

So he became tank but his real name is actually somehow even better than tank tank is his nickname Which tank Bigsby deserves more credit for being one of the coolest names in the NFL. His real name is Cartavious Cartavious is pretty solid. That's fucking awesome. You don't like it, Max. It's not better than tank. I mean, tank obviously is a great name, but Cartavious is a great name. He's Cardi B. Yeah, he is Cardi B, but it's tank bigs. I understand. They know tank pigs. We deserves more credit for being one, a good football player and two having maybe top three name in the NFL. It's pretty solid. And I think we've been saying for the last few weeks that he looks better than Travis Etienne does. Right? Like pretty, pretty much consistently, at least for this season.

And then we know that Doug Peterson appears to lie before games and then tell the truth after games. Yeah. So after the truth, after this game, uh, they asked him if tank was going to replace Etienne. And he said, I don't think so. I'm a believer where injury doesn't replace your position. I think you have to have a fair competition. Tank has done some good things. Obviously we're going to continue to find ways to put the ball in his hands too. I disagree with that.

I think that injury can absolutely a hundred percent without a doubt change things up, especially when the guy that comes in for the injured guy is better than the injured guy when the injured guy wasn't injured And his name's tank bigs and his name is cartavious big cartavious tank bigsby Bigsby doesn't get enough credit either. No bigsby's great. Bigsby's a great name I just looked at the name tank bigsby for a while when I was taking notes I was like damn we don't talk enough about how awesome this name is and he was awesome He had 118 years bigsby sounds English. I remember the first time I heard his name yeah at Auburn yep because Auburn played

Penn State in a non-conference game I was like who the fuck is tank takes me yeah it was like early in the season and it was I maybe one of the coolest running back names since Cadillac Williams the the NFL has a surplus of tanks right now yeah tank tell maybe next game is going to be in the Ukraine overseas who will fund it send them there. Yeah. The so the Jags survived the like Doug Peterson fire game because he was going to get fired in this game if he lost it. Did you have you guys look at the Jags schedule coming up? Yes, because they're very bad there. He's going to get fired very

soon. They're playing the Packers. They first of all, they don't have a bye week until week 12. I think they probably just said we're good. We don't need a bye week after the London game. But they're playing the Packers at the Eagles Vikings Lions Texans. That's their next five games. Yeah. So if you're Doug Peterson, just just close your eyes and enjoy this win. Thank God you won this game. Actually, maybe not. Maybe he wishes he lost this game because the next five games are gonna be Tortured that way he can be like it wasn't my fault look what we're doing Yeah Cuz there's no way that they could have fired him and then gotten a bump against the Packers Eagles Vikings Lions and Texans and been Like oh they think it was Doug Petersons fault. Yeah, that's true

So if you're Doug, I they always say like I wish there was a way to know that you're in the good old days When you're in them right now Doug, you have to take this entire flight back get hammered Drink all the free drinks go into the office next week Just like take a bunch of the snacks that they have set out stuff them in your pockets steal from the facility Because you're probably not going to come back in it in a matter of probably I'd say like three weeks probably two weeks Maybe Doug Peterson is at the point right now of say like three weeks, probably two weeks maybe. Doug Peterson is at the point right now

of every single one of my weekends on Saturday morning when I'm like, what if I just get super hot and just win all my bets? He's two and five and he's like, what if we just run the table here? Two and five looks good. Two and five's a lot better than one and six, but it's not gonna happen.

Just like I'm never gonna do that. Doug Peterson is not gonna run the table, but you have to at least sit in that moment all week and just embrace it and be like, you don't know what's going to happen. You don't know if I can just win everything. You never know. He might've changed. Yeah. So a chap sent this to me, the sad Jaguars stat of the week, the Jaguars 22 points that the score in the first half is their, their highest total in her first half since 2017. It's been a minute. That is a

long time. If you're a Jags fan, enjoy this. I don't think it's going to make much of a difference on what happens in the future of the team, specifically their coach by the end of the year. But it's always better to see in front of essentially your home fans. Yeah, over in England, you get a win. Yeah, you got to win. And Hank, you got to start your day watching a soft football team. But again, you knew the fun first drive you knew yeah it's Drake May that's it that's all that matters this year for you Drake May and then you fix everything is

drawed male the guy though no yeah so I know he was getting criticized for the two-point conversion when they scored they were down 15 he they went for two they scored a touchdown went for two didn't get it with 10 minutes left basically ending the game because they then needed to score twice. Is that not what you're supposed to do in that situation? No, the thing we always talk about I think you go either way with that one the four down 14 is what we always talk about because it's still one possession game whether whether you get it or not They didn't get the two-point conversion. So it was a nine-point game So they needed to get a score a stop a score and then a stop and a score

Whereas if they had just kicked the extra point and they're down eight you can at least tell your huddle Hey, all we need is a stop and a score I don't know I always go back and forth because you kind of wish you knew what you have to get. But I also understand for a soft football team, you probably want to keep them mentally in it as long as they possibly can. That's the argument is you want to know if you have to go for two now or later and if you're going to make your two point conversion, you'd rather have that information as early as possible so you can plan out the rest of the game. The problem is when your offense

stinks and you haven't really done much, is it actually that much more of a likelihood that you will get two more scores in the fourth quarter when you haven't scored since the second quarter to begin with? And when you have a soft football team, you probably want to use every advantage to keep them mentally locked in. This is one of those debates and arguments that I saw online. And I got to say, I think both sides are right. I do too.

I think both sides are a hundred percent correct on this. I think it completely depends on your football team. Because you have the math people that have run these games and simulation and the logic, if you're like a game theory guy, it makes sense. I understand it. But also if you're just a football guy that hates computers and stats and you hear that argument, you're like, that's pussy football. I'm like, yeah, he's kind of right and it's not it's not remotely close to our Hank was just laughing at that onside kick attempt by the 49ers We're taping a little early so we can let memes watch the Jets

the and the Mets It's not the down 14 going for two conversation I stand by that that math and that also is you don't change the fact that it's still a one score game that is settled. This is down 15 going for two, you change the fact that you now have a two score game versus a one score. Yep. Yep. And I don't think if he had not done what he did, if he had just kicked a field goal or kick the extra point, I would absolutely not have a problem with that. I don't think it was

one of these no brainer situations. We also had the longest international touchdown and also the first ever special teams touchdown from Parker Washington the 96 yard punt return which that's kind of crazy. That's great because the people over in England they love the kicking game. Yeah if you put a ball in your hand and you kick it they will stand up and cheer for you and to get to see one run back over there that was two great plays and one for them.

I'm hoping there was at least one guy in the stands. He's like, I didn't even know you could do that. Yeah, I've been coming to these games for 20 years. It never happened. That's amazing. Yeah. You didn't golf today? No. Okay. I was it was a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. We thought you had maybe golfed and done the phone watching, which I

would would have been totally fine Because if you have a soft football team, that's No, I'm a committed fan. I was up early. I watched the whole the whole game and then after halftime I will wish I was golfing but I wasn't I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna really look into this Gerard Mayo being dead or alive because he is he potentially is the the heir apparent to Jim Caldwell Do you think that the team is has made you soft as a fan Hank no the Patriots never made you soft maybe just by so many good times I guess yeah in the analogy of good times we had the best times so you you're the softest man softest fan yeah oh you're

the softest fan out of out of the people in this in this room full of losers and hard times yeah sure and big cat are hardest men hard times hard people do you feel like this experience is making you harder are you getting harder right now as we talked to you are you just kind of checked out and accepting like it happens to a lot of fan bases I guess it's just my turn are you able to hard anymore? I don't know or it's gonna it's it's been a while since I haven't been able to get hard. I think it's more what you said it's every fan base has to go through with this at some point you can't win forever. Yeah and Drake May.

Drake May. You just got to keep like you just need to keep saying to yourself Drake May. Drake May has looked good in the first two games that he's started. And that's all that matters for you right now. And nothing else. Christian Gonzalez stud like you got a stud on the offense, so the defense build around that. You can build around that. Yeah. You just need 20 more guys and a coach and a coach, a bunch more studs and then Hank's going to get hard again. Is there a chance to run Mayo gets fired? No, I think he's kind of the craft. Yeah, but the but but we're in the craft is in his He might be in his Jerry Jones era where he's gonna get like a I'm not gonna live forever. I

Need it now But he already yeah, he already had a different. It hasn't been that long. Yeah, that's true Yeah, Robert Kraft actually did it right. Like winning that many Super Bowls closer to whenever he passes away versus Jerry Jones, who had to win the Super Bowls and then live for 30 years more watching his team not win. Yeah, the legacy is kind of finalized on Robert Kraft. Yeah, he's good. He's good. So yeah, it's a tough spot for him because the fire may would be like, yeah, I made a terrible, terrible mistake. Don't make a mistake directly on him and maybe negatively affect his hall of fame induction that he's planning on. Also, I mean, it's brutal for Mayo just like having to follow

Bill Belichick. Yeah, like that's I mean, you get like, Gerard Mayo saying we're soft football team, Bill Belichick would never have never coached a soft football team. I think Belichick would say that to his team, but he would never, he would never say it publicly. Right. And he never actually thinking truly. I think he would, I think he would think it truly. I even in the midst of the dynasty, he was probably like you guys are playing like a bunch of soft soft. Yeah. He's probably said it when they've, when they've lost before. Sure. Yeah.

I think so. But then the, but he also knew that it was relative that like comparatively they weren't actually that soft now It would be a soft move on me. He was saying he was calling them soft in the media to get them mad Mayo's just like Saying they're soft because they're soft. Yeah, but it would be a bad move for Mayo to call them soft Just to the media and not say it to their faces Yeah

It'd be a good move for Belichick to call them soft to the media In order to light a fire to their eyes, right? Yeah, you hope Mayo says that in the locker room to not don't come back to what I don't know what I said He did say so there was a couple guys on the team that said yeah I mean he wouldn't say anything to you guys that he hasn't said to us So he did say that and then and then Jalen Polk He's got some issues a lot of drops with his hands and with his feet and then rookie though just a rookie But then after the game, do you see what you put up on Instagram? Oh, no He just put up a black screen right was with hand emojis

Yeah, do you know what the hand emoji was doing praying? No, no not praying catching a football dropping a football First of all, it was the dot dot dot and then the peace sign. Oh Like see I'm out of here. Well, you could be saying goodbye to London. They probably met someone in London Yeah, met somebody in London. Yeah, he's like see that is that was fun Churchill's 48 hours didn't they invent the the peace sign is actually for victory in England, right? They started that in World War two the USC Trojans started that that's true. Yeah. Yeah, we're just going to zero dark 31 Yeah Okay a great game to start the early slate

Lions 31 Vikings 29 this game fucking rocked you knew this game was gonna be awesome When Dan Campbell decided to start the game with a fake punt from his own 30 that didn't work on a fourth and seven But the Lions end up winning. The Lions are it's crazy to think that like the Vikings started five and go into the bye week five and oh, and then come right out of the bye week and now they're second place in the NFC North. It is Yeah, I mean, that division just continues to be awesome because the Packers won again too. But nothing to hang

your head about if you're a Vikings fan, right? You would like to win this game, obviously, because it means a lot in the division. But in terms of like how you played Sam Darnold didn't have his his best first half, but he looked pretty good in the second half. Yeah, yeah, I think you don't hang your head, you just realize that the Lions are really goddamn good. And it's got to be frustrating as hell, because you have to play perfect football, you have to play perfect defensive football against the Lions to beat them. And they even got a defensive touchdown and it wasn't enough and they got that you know, punt the fake punt which was gifted them

a touchdown for Aaron Jones in the first quarter. Jared Goff though is playing out of his mind. He is in this last four game stretch he's 76 for 90, 1 thousand and eighty six yards nine touchdowns in one interception the last two guys who have had a three game streak of 140 plus passing rate at passer rating was Aaron Rodgers in 2011 when he won an MVP and Kurt Warner in 1999 when he won an MVP Jared Goff plus 850 on Drafking Sportsbook for MVP. Just saying that. I love that for Jared too. You have it better, right? Preseason. He's been, he's been lights out and it was crazy too because Brian Flores tried to blitz

and you know, do his tricks at him and uh, he was, it didn't work. Like they, Jared was 13 for 15, 163 yards in a touchdown against the Blitz was carving them up big play after big play And yeah this game. I mean it just showed that both these teams are really fucking good. They're both really good and Brian branch that dude is so much fun to watch on D. Yeah, that's that interception He made he is so good like that diving play that he had with a little green mouthpiece sticking out of his helmet That dude has become one of my favorite guys to watch on defense side of the ball. And that's, I don't think, again, I don't think that, um, they're at a good spot because of the loss of Hutchinson,

but I do think that they have enough good players in their defense where it won't preclude them from making a Superbowl. I also, I think that they're good enough to get through that. And again, like Campbell, he's the king of like talking about adversity, manufacturing adversity. Sometimes this is a real piece of adversity that they have to get through. Yeah, I feel like there's no better coach than Dan Campbell to get you through it. Their offense is hell. Their offense is hell to deal with

every guy. Every single guy is a guy. Sonic and Knuckles. Yeah, Sonic and Knuckles. That was a very serious Schefter report early this morning that Jamiro Gibbs and David Montgomery would like to be called Sonic and Knuckles that was a very serious Schefter report early this morning that Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery would like to be Called Sonic and Knuckles which one's Sonic which one's not I believe I believe Jameer Gibbs is Sonic that makes sense Sonic is a little bit bigger and he's faster. Yeah and We did it. Yeah, so I think that's I Believe that's what it is Gibbs did have a 45 yard touchdown run, which made him look like Sonic.

Yeah, that was sick. That's pretty cool though to be called Sonic. It's cooler than Thunder and Lightning because Thunder and Lightning has been done a million times. They're not a true Thunder and Lightning. They're not. I like the old Tennessee Titans when it was Lindale White and Reggie Bush and they called themselves Eat and Run. Oh, I like that. Yeah, that was good too. That's when Lindale was in his fat era. Yeah, Lindale White tough to bring down. But yeah, this game, the Lions, the Lions offense is just, I don't really know what you can do. You can't, you can't, you can't beat them for four quarters. Because upfront, they can, they can bully you off the line of scrimmage. They've got two weapons at running back. They've got MVP Jared Goff, and then they've got a great tight end and then three at the

at minimum, very good wide receivers. Tim Patrick has his we said it last week, but he is walked into that Josh Reynolds role perfectly. And and it all works. And Dan Campbell is a psycho. And it was I speaking of Aiden Hutchison, by the way, I love that the Lions had a report out that so first of all He had no nerve or ligament damage, which is very good. But then there was the report which I love whenever this happens it's a four to six month recovery and The Super Bowl would be just shy of four months So they said that if the Lions make the Super Bowl don't rule out him being able to come back

I'm gonna say right now I going to rule him out coming back, but I love whenever this happens for fan base because you got to give that glimmer of hope. That's a very nice glimmer of hope. They've given them like, just, just throw it out there. It just makes you feel a little bit better. We all know the truth. He's not going to come back, but it doesn't matter. Still say there's a chance. I could see Dan Campbell using a roster spot spot on him though and then making him captain. Yeah.

And then never having him in the game but he's on the sidelines and full pads. Right. I mean he's just, you're asking him to come back from a severely broken leg in less time than what it should be and be effective. But again, doesn't matter. You gotta still, you gotta still give him that hope. It's basically the dumb and dumber that you're saying there's a chance. Yeah I guess technically there is. But would you want him back if you're a Lions fan?

No, I want... Because you'd probably get like 40% Aiden Hutchinson with a good chance of him doing something bad to either that same leg or his other leg overcompensating. Or you could just not play him and take the fact that you could still make the Super Bowl without him. Right. No, I don't want him back. I want the idea that he could be back because in your head, when you hear that, you think of Aiden Hutchson picking up exactly where he left off, where he was going to probably be defensive player of the year. And that's a really cool thing to just have in your head, even though it's fantasy land. We all live in fantasy land. We all like to live to

jump into fantasy land every now and then. And just be like, yeah, we could, could be the biggest free agent signing ever in Super Bowl by week. You get the yeah, the defensive player of the year back. Yeah, I saw some some rumor out there that they had either inquired about or the Saints were considering trading chase young. Let me tell you if you are the Detroit Lions. You don't want that. No, you don't want chase he looks awesome. chase young is probably the guy who looks the

coolest and looks the most athletic compared to what he actually does on the field. Correct. I don't think that that would fit well in that system. That we were we were having that debate the other day. It Sean Oakman was the other name thrown out there. Yeah, for like what he looks like versus production from what he actually is. Right. I feel like chase young is tops in the NFL that right now. Yeah. By the way, I just want to do breaking moves real quick because this should actually be breaking. Hank is just alerted to me. We do bar stool sports advisors every single week,

Stu and Stu and myself. And then this week we advisors every single week. Stu and myself and then this week we had a picks competition between Brandon and Jerry. So it's four of us picking games. We pick five games heading into Sunday Night Football. The entire panel is a combined oh and 16. That rock. That is a historic, historic moment. That's hard to do. That's just as hard as 16 and oh My just as hard as it might be four different people to that's just as hard as 60 Oh, who had you would think someone would pick the opposite of the other person? Oh, like that person's wrong. The other person's right. So who had no, what do you guys have for tonight's game? I have the I have the Jets. Oh, I'm on the steel. So I don't know. You might not want to take the

Steelers now. I'm statistically do. Yeah. But I mean, when you're hot, you're hot. When you're cold, you're cold. We actually, so the only way, because it's the three of us and we all pick different things. The only way, uh, the brain and I have opposite sides. He has a Steelers. So I guess there's, there's going to be at least one winner. There's really what's the spread. One and a half is what we had Wednesday, so you're gonna go one and 17 We're gonna go although Jerry has the under so you okay we could even go to we could put two together We get cuz it could go under and jets are under and Steelers and could get two full wins. That's incredible What a day I knew to going into this week. I was like I had a great

week last week. I'm going to suck this week. I think on Friday show we actually said at the start of the show if you did well last year, just don't bet this week still jumped right in. Yeah, still jumped right in. Okay, anything else? Oh, it's off to Vegas hats off to Vegas. They did it again. You guys you know what you're doing. By the way, shout out to Jake Bates, the kicker for the Lions, who first of all, he did after he kicked the game winning field goal, he did the boom, the big justice AJ boom dance, which is that's the new touchdown dance or field goal dance. He also had this to say afterwards.

He said 18 months ago, I thought I was done with football. I was working as a brick salesman in Houston. That's a good line of business. That's a good line of business. That's a good line of business to be in. Good for him. Him and Mincy, both brick salesmen. Brick salesmen. Pays well.

Yeah. But yeah, that's a pretty cool story. How do you sell bricks? I mean, I know how you sell one kind of them, but. Yeah, I think it's probably, I don't know, the strength of them. Like, you probably have some bricks that are stronger than others. Yeah, it's like you just show up and you're like, you want the good them like you probably have some bricks that are stronger than others

Yeah, it's like you just show up and you're like you want the good bricks or you want the bad bricks here Take my knife. Yeah, try this brick. Yeah, it's like to cut co-sales people. Yeah, you bring a hammer You're like try to break this brick. Yeah, you can't get to it Okay, next game Packers. Oh, by the way, I both these teams I feel like are gonna go to the playoffs and Both these teams are very very good. So I'm not I like Vikings as much as that game probably sucked Especially the way it went down that you were up late and you you get that David Montgomery fumble and you're like, holy shit We're gonna win this game

Cuz it flipped back and forth constantly it was like Vikings up big Lions come back up big it flipped back and forth constantly. It was like Vikings up big, Lions come back up big, Vikings back up and then Lions win the game late. But I think both these teams are both very good teams. What if once a year Brian Flores was like, you know what, I'm not going to blitz at all this week. They expect me to blitz on like 60% of the plays. I'm just not going to do it. Yeah, we're just going to run base. That was what I was saying. If I were a head coach, I would fake punt every single time until the playoffs and then I would start real punting. Like Jared Goff would expect it would run play action. He turns his back to the line of scrimmage. He fakes the handoff and then he turns around expecting it to be a blitz. And he's like,

what the fuck? There's so many guys out there. Yeah. It would make him think for a second. Yeah, that's true. Also, Ben Johnson, I forgot to mention this. He was asked, I think it was midweek Someone asked him about like hey, did you do you feel like you emptied the playbook a little too much against the Cowboys? He was like the well is very deep. I love that. Yeah, we were good. We're gonna get really fucking weird We're gonna get weird. He's like don't worry. Let's see. This thing is unlimited. He's got an unlimited coffee cup of yeah Here it is Ben Johnson on trick plays I'm not worried about putting things on tape if anything it's gonna set up the next thing down

the road the well is deep I love that so yeah so they're gonna have Peney Sewell then lateral ball after he catches the to another lineman yeah I love that so they're playing the lion or they're playing the Titans at home do you feel like that's a let's get freaky with a game home do you feel like that's a let's get freaky with a game no that's just run the straight shit and just fuck them up lions at Packers that might be a freaky game that might be a freak and then lines at lines of Texans to me feels like a very freaky because they're going back to Texas yeah and they're like oh we always get close enough to Cowboys yeah we got to really make their their cousins feel it to something in the air down here

It gets me all riled up. All right, speaking of Packers 24 Texans 22 Meet max not over uniforms They looked like over uniforms for like the whole entire fucking game I think they scored 33 points in the first half it was crazy They were scoring so many points and then theans, the Texans offensive line is bad. CJ shroud was not good today. But I also can say that I'm not, I'm not gonna say CJ shrouds bad. I think he's got some issues, but he was under attack. It felt like on every single play. And then we also had at the end of the game, Tameka O'Riands and Bobby Sloak

with some head scratching, clock management, play calling to end the game because they basically decided to settle for a field goal when there was a minute and 45 seconds left and didn't make the Packers burn all three of their timeouts. If you're gonna do the, hey, let's run it up the gut for no yards. You got to make sure they at least burn all their time. You got to commit one way or the other. They ran it up the gut two times for no yards and then ran an out route that in best case scenario, he catches. I don't remember who was targeted. That

might've been digs me. I might've been ticked. Dale, uh, in the best case scenario, he catches him and goes out of bounds and you still don't burn all their timeouts. Yeah. It was, it was very bizarre at the end of the game there. Um, I, I think the Texans will be okay cause their defense is very, very banged up. So yeah, I wouldn't, again, I kind of put this in the same box as I put the Vikings loss in. It's like, you lost, you lost a tough game against a good opponent. You probably did a couple of things that screwed yourself over a little bit

I just I would if I were Texans fans sitting there watching the end of that game I would be very frustrated with the way that they managed the end of the game because it was You know that Jordan love is good enough to take them down the field for a field goal if that's all he needs You got to try to score a touchdown and I get it like you're you're also trying to get them to burn timeouts But get a little bit creative where they it felt like they just threw away the first and second down plays Maybe they watched a lot of tape on the Packers and they said we don't really care if Jordan loves gonna drive down the field for a field goal because they're gonna miss the field goal But they got forgetting the fact that they got Brandon man is who actually is able to make field goals

Yes, and I think did their old kicker miss an extra point today? Did he? Where is he now? I think he did. Is that Anders? Is he on a team? I think so. I think so. All right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's on Niners. Yeah, he did. He missed an extra point. Yeah. So there you go. So I think they just got caught watching tape from the Packers games of old and didn't realize they got a new kicker. Yeah, I just, that was a, that was a winnable game for the Texas at the end and they weren't able to do it. They ran the ball. Joe Mixon is really fucking good. And when they get Nico Collins back, but that was a measuring stick game and they failed the measuring stick. I know they're banged up, but their offensive line is a problem. Okay. So in the second half, So you start through for 86 yards.

This is kind of a recurring theme for the Texans. And also, I think a recurring theme for the Packers that the Texans second half offense is atrocious. They're really bad with the exception of last week. Last week, they scored 27 points, but before that, like they've been dog shit in the second half and the Packers defense has been lights out in the second half. You just got second half. Yeah. You got second half. You the second half. And the Packers defense has been lights out in the second half. Yep. You just got second half. Yeah, you got second half. You got second half. 86 yards is shocking though for CJ Stroud.

Jordan love. Yeah, it's very shocking. Jordan love is just Brett Favre. And I know that that that's actually a bad thing because Brett Favre obviously is a Hall of Famer won MVP is won a Super Bowl. But Jordan love. Now we still have to play the Monday night game with Baker Mayfield. But Jordan Love has missed two games this year. He leads the league in touchdowns and interceptions. That's cool. 15 touchdowns, seven interceptions. That's very cool. Maybe there's maybe did my home store a second one? I don't know. But either way, he leads it. He's tied I think with Baker with 15 touchdown passes. But that's, he is Brett Farber.

And he missed two games. He's missed two games this year. I got a question for you, big cat. Are interceptions good now? I like my quarterbacks to throw at least one or two. Are they good? Are they the best thing? Cause I'm going to look up right now,

who's leading the league in interceptions from the quarterback position. Is it Patrick Mahomes still? Patrick Mahomes, well no, it's Jordan Love. Yeah, Jordan Love. Why am I an asshole? Because you just talk about how bad Jalen Hurts is when he throws interceptions. I would know. We would. We're consistent on this show. Yeah, we would never do that.

So Patrick Mahomes. Well, also that doesn't sound like us. Also, listen, that was like two months ago. That was preseason, Max. Doesn't make a difference. We're talking regular. We started throwing a lot of talking regular season ball. You guys kept saying how. But here's how it works. Well, it's also the fumbles. Here's how it works. When when Patrick Mahomes starts doing a lot of anything, that thing actually becomes good. Yeah. So Patrick Mahomes hadn't shown us the light

that interceptions were good. When Jalen hurts was doing it. Not because he wanted to be like more like Patrick Mahomes, but just because he was a bad quarterback. Yeah, he's showing us the new way to do this. Aaron Rodgers started throwing interceptions just this year. Not because he wanted to be like more like Patrick Mahomes, but just because he was a bad quarterback. Yeah. He's showing us the new way to do this. Aaron Rodgers started throwing interceptions just this year. Great quarterback. Great quarterback. If he had a thousand stats about it.

About what? Aaron Rodgers throwing picks. Yeah. They were mean. He's probably trying to copy Patrick Mahomes who's a trailblazer. And Jordan Love is caught onto the new trend. But I also like the fact that Josh Allen refuses to go with the trends because he's a trailblazer and Jordan love is, is caught onto the new trend. But I also liked the fact that Josh Allen refuses to go with the trends because he's a man's man. He's a man of principles. He walks alone and he'll stand by himself because

he believes in it. Yeah. But yeah, that's a man of conviction. Jordan loves. I mean, he's, he fills up the stat sheet. He throws picks, throws touchdowns. I so how would you power rank the NFC North right now in terms of confidence to go deep in the playoffs? I will I am very, I'll be very unbiased. I think the bears have the longest shot. I'm not I'm not fooling myself. I would say lions number one. Yeah. And then I would say I think I'm going to say the Packers number two. Right. Isn't it crazy? The Vikings number three.

But the thing is, I wouldn't be shocked if the Packers played against the Vikings in the playoffs and knocked them out barely. But I'm just saying it's crazy that the Vikings were 5-0 going into this week and the NFC North is so good that I would rank them third in Terms of confidence to make a deep run, but still could they make the NFC championship game? Absolutely Yeah, I just think that it would probably be against the light against the line. I think the Lions would beat them Whichever team has home field in the NFC championship game if there's two NFC North teams playing each other That's the team I'm going to go with the Packers defense

Very good. They I mean they were all over CJ Stroud all afternoon This is why you should tell coaches to fuck off when they tell you that it takes several years to turn a team around Yeah, the defense just went from being just absolute garbage over the last couple of seasons to being very very good now Yeah, no, Jeff Haftley is has got them humming. And Romeo jobs also, it feels like they figured that out because he had to two catches, I think, on the field goal drive to end the game that were huge, including one that I still don't know. If you caught or fumbled, or both. Yeah, no one knows. No one knows. It's

impossible to tell. I also don't know if that was was a challenge. D'Amico Ryan's here's a little tip and if we have him back on we did love having him on and I think he is A good coach you just in a tight game You can never go home with two timeouts in your back pocket Mm-hmm, cuz that that's such an easy way for idiots like us to be like bro two timeouts in your back pocket Even though at the end we're trying to get them to bleed more to the clock So you weren't gonna use your time But then when the Packers have the ball try to use maybe a timeout so that you get a shot back at the very least

Maybe take a timeout so you can take a look at what they're doing on just anything just slow it down for a second I do like they're used one timeout to ice icing the icing at the end. Yeah Also, we should have mentioned Josh Jacobs. Congratulations. He caught a touchdown pass. He did. Shocking that he hasn't done that yet. 211 receptions, 1556 yards before he caught his first touchdown pass. And then the other running back touchdown story, Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon scores a touchdown, jumps into the stands, does a Lambeau leap in the end zone. The fan I thought was completely within his rights correct to push him back right? Yeah, well Packers fans are scumbags. We all know that fans probably an owner. So that's

technically kind of his stadium. So you can you can keep a man out of your house if you want to. He shoved him back that fan then got ejected from the game. He did I don't I don't like that. And if anything, he should get a promotion. Move down one row. Yeah, you're defending the wall. You're literally Yes, this is your job literally as a fan. I know every team think you they score at Lambeau field. They want to do the Lambeau leap it you have to be prepared that you're entering a hostile crowd at that

situation. You can't you can't expect Packers fans to welcome you with open arms. Yeah. Yeah, I agree stand with that fan He's a scumbag. Yeah, but I stand with him. It was it he was within his rights to do so Yeah, but he's still scumbag. That's fair. Uh, but he was doing his job. Literally Okay, next up Bengals 21 Browns 14 big story. Obviously from this game is to Shawn Watson Torres Achilles Hate to see it. Listen, you never root for injuries. And I say I said you never root for injury. You never root for injuries. Don't point at me. You you never never never root for injuries. And that's pretty

much what I have to say about the Sean. The thing is, why was Jamis not starting today? Was he not, or why, excuse me, why was Jamis Winston the emergency quarterback today? I don't know. He's been the backup every game this season. The fans have started to chant for Jamis. There was a lot of speculation that maybe Stefanski was told put Jamis as the emergency

so that fans can't ask him to get into the game. Yeah. So he was the emergency third string quarterback today. And then then got in and then got in because there was then an injury to DTR his finger or thumb. So he might be out too. Yeah. The, the, uh, it was the first time since 2008 that a team had three different players attempt 10 or more pass attempts. That's pretty wild. It was the chiefs in 2008. Do you think you

can name one of the three quarterbacks on the chiefs in 2008? Brody Croyles? Yes. Okay. Um, I remember that game. Brody Croyles, Matt Castle. No, it's Brody Croyles, Damon Heward and TT. Tyler Thigpen. Yes. Let's go. But yeah, Deshaun Watson. The entire fans, I think there was a report from Ben Baby, our friend Ben Baby, they cheered when he went down. I got no problem with that. We had a weird, it was basically Deshaun Watson goes down, everyone, I didn't, I didn't cheer for it, but I definitely sat there being like, well, yeah, I mean,

yeah, he's a bad guy. I'm not going to be like, oh, boo hoo, D'Shaun Watson. But then we had the reaction to the reaction. Chase Daniel tried to jump in front of it being like, why would anyone? I feel really bad for D'Shaun Watson. It's sick that people are happy about this, I don't have any problem with people being happy about it either. They might have been happier because they're getting

one step closer to Jameis. Yeah, to Jameis, also Miles Garrett, maybe not the best quote, he said after the game, Deshaun Watson has been a model citizen through college and most of the pros, that most of really is covering a lot of things up. Doing a lot of work right there. And technically he might be right.

Like if you look at, from a mathematical perspective, the percentage of time that Deshaun Watson was not sexually assaulting people to the amount of time that he was, I'd say it's probably at least 67%. He's got his hands clean. Yeah, like if Deshaun Watson has been in the NFL for call it, I don't know. I don't know how many days, let's say 2000 days. I mean, he probably I don't know

how many massages if it's 200 massages, that would mean that 90% of the time he was in the NFL most of the time, but they don't want to talk about that. They don't want to talk about all the days that you weren't ripping somebody. Yeah. So was, that was a weird quote from miles Garrett. Either way, it feels like the Browns, like they, if they can start Jamis, which they should now they're going to have fun. Yeah. It'll be a fun season. I don't know if you were going to, you were probably going to start Jamis, right?

Even if, uh, if DTR was healthy. I think so. I was so confused by the emergency quarterback. It would be such a weird thing for Stefanski to have to explain How come your third string quarterback is now starting? What are you gonna say? Like he had a great week of practice I promoted him. I don't know TTR is not good and I Seems like a nice guy, but and I liked watching him at UCLA. He's not good. James He he was in for like a half a quarter through a touchdown pass. Yeah, and a two-point conversion. Yeah, he's fun

He's fun. He has awesome. He had awesome Glasses on after the game he did and he said all the right things Yeah, like I actually I understand why the Browns would say that because if you're a Cleveland Browns player you step on that field Every weekend there's a chance that you could get injured and you know that it sucks to get injured So I want to see your own fans cheering for one of your teammates to get injured. I'm not mad at the Browns for saying that either. But I'm also not mad at Brown's fans. Right, if you're a teammate of Dejaun Watson,

I understand you trying to come to his defense. But you also have to understand where the fans are coming from. And the fans have every right to be like, fuck this guy. Did Johnny Fanta have anything to say? Oh, I don't know. He did? I kind of want to hear Fanta have anything to say? Oh, I don't know. He did. I kind of want to hear

Fanta's take on this. Do you because I feel like Fanta might join in chastising the Browns fans. Oh, because he's stirring the pot of misery. Oh, this is a good title. What's the noise that makes me stir that pot? stirring the pot of misery. It's rain. Tough. Really tough, brutal weekend to be a Cleveland sports fan. We've got scars. They run deep and it's hard for anybody to really empathize. We fight on. It's the only way the Cleveland sports fans know how to go about it. Cleveland sports fans know how to go about it. From 11 and 6 to 1 and 6. 11 and 6 to 1 and 6. And on this day, you allowed in your house rivalry game, first division game of the season, the opposing team which hadn't won in that stadium for years, to run the opening kickoff back for a touchdown. And at that point you

felt like the game was over. And we went through the formality for the next four quarters, but it was. You hate to see anybody get hurt. And for Deshaun Watson, that's horrible. And you wish him the best in his recovery. Oh, that was nice. As for the football team, the pre-snap penalties in week 7 are unacceptable and they fall on the coach. Now, I have been pro Kevin Stefanski, right? I like Kevin, but whatever this scheme is, there is none, right? It makes no sense.

It's week 7. You have multiple, we're not talking one or two. We're talking three, four, five. Illegal shift. Illegal motion. Illegal this. We're making up new penalties. New flags. Gotta stop. That can't continue. This is professional football. Now, you're probably trying to lose. You're one-6. You need to draft a quarterback. Let's call it what it is. You've got a tank. It's in the best interest of your organization to continue to lose. The saddest part about this is I feel bad for Nick Chubb, who made his way back to play hard.

I feel bad for Miles Garrett. Mm-hmm. Not saying that I don't feel too bad for too many other guys, but I feel bad for the stars of this team. A playoff team a year ago, They now sit in this pit of misery up next, the Ravens. I got to find me a pumpkin patch. Oh no. Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, why is he trying to find a pumpkin patch? I don't know. Just get away from it all. Yeah. Take a walk. It was awesome. The Nick Chubb scored. Nick Chubb is an awesome dude. It's cool that he scored. Yeah. Uh, vibes are back with Nick Chubb, but yeah, Sean Watson just, and it is funny. We were saying in the gambling cave that we

watching sports gives you the dumbest knowledge about injuries where we saw it we all were like instantly yep that's an achilles because you see how the cat the calf muscle kind of contracted there it basically kevin durant took us all to medical school when he when his achilles popped against the raptors in the nba finals yeah and we all felt like Yeah. Oh no, no, against the run, which you can. That's not Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson as much, although you can game plan knowing those guys are the quarterbacks. But yeah, if you're a Bengals fan, this is the fixes. The last two weeks they've helped both teams to under 14 points.

If the Bengals hold everyone to under 14 points for the rest of the season, they're going to win the Superbowl. Yeah. So just keep doing that and keep maybe playing to Sean Watson and Daniel Jones. I think that if it was just one week, they could revert back to being the Bengals that we saw earlier on defense. But for some dumb reason, when I see it two weekends around, I'm like, okay, now it's a trend. Yeah. If they just keep putting together weeks like this, uh, next week, oh, they play the Eagles. That's going to be a test. test That'll be a test that will be a find out if it was Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson

Or if the Bengals defense is back the both of those teams you can ask the same question by the way what? You can find out if it's Daniel. Oh, yeah, true. That's it. Yep Cuz you guys just played Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones. So we're gonna find out if any of this This would be great if you guys played a, like a 10, 10 tie. And we're like, maybe they're, they're just better than those two teams. Joan hurts likes a lot, throw a lot of picks. Yeah. Not in the past two weeks. That's true. Jamar chases Allen Iverson step over was bad. Yeah, that was nasty. That was, that was a nasty little celebration to step over. I'm all in favor of it.

I'm sure that Roger Godella is going to think about maybe making that a penalty next year. Yeah. Um, it should not be the step over is great when you can pull it off. And then it's on the other guy. I also think that the other guy, if you get stepped over, you should be allowed to punch him right in the nuts during the step over or pants, or pants. And that's fine too. A good pantsing, but it's the, it's the best move that you can do. It's just so much. You ever do it to your pet step over. Yeah. So awesome. They just so am I you ever do it to your pet? Step over. Yeah, so awesome. They look at you.

You get that same vibe from you. I just dominated you. Step over. Let's play whose line is anyway, Hank Draftkings Sportsbook you you have your phone this week. Yep. So you're you're you've given up the no phone. I thought we're doing boomer. So I had it ready.

Okay. Eagles Bengals Eagles at Bengals. I Think it goes at Bengals wrong Eagles at Bengals So this is the did they just play the Sean Watson and Daniel Jones or are they good bowl? I'm gonna say Bengals Minus Two and a half so the bank so let's just talk it out real quick. The Eagles, the Bengals beat the Browns better than the Eagles did.

Yeah. The Eagles beat the giants better than the Bengals did. Okay. Wait, and they're both more recent. Oh man. Yeah. I'm going to say, would you say Bengals minus two and a half? I'll say Bengals minus one and a half. Bengals minus two. Okay.

Okay. We split it. Love that. That feels good. We know ball. That was good analysis. We know ball big time. This is gonna be fun to figure it out.

We're gonna get a great answer. I do sympathize with what Johnny Fantanta said about walking into the stadium, like the opening kickoff return for a touchdown. Oh, there's nothing worse as a fan than walking into the stadium before you even see the green of the grass. Maybe you're like a couple of minutes late for kickoff and you sit down at your seat and you're already losing by a touchdown. Yeah, that's that's a sign.

Your day is not even you don't even have a chance for your day to be good. Right at that point. Yeah. It's absolutely true. The dynamic air right out of it. Yeah. Air right out of the entire building. You see what Trump said about the kickoff. What he said took a direct shot at our boy Sam Schwartstein. Oh no. He said it's ugly. It's ugly. Sam's kickoff ugly. Yeah. Although we're getting more kickoff return. We're getting more kickoff. He's talking about the kickoffs that aren't returned. He thinks it's ugly. I agree with that. I think the whole point was to get more kickoff return touchdown. I agree 100%. I think that when it's kicked out of bounds for a touchback, it's very ugly. It's a very ugly play. Yeah. But when it's returned for

a touchdown, it's one of the most beautiful plays in sports. Yeah. The kickoff went from like a solid seven to now a five in some light and a ten in some other light. Yeah, when the kick up when it wears its when it smiles more. Yeah, then it's really really attractive when it when it when it wears something really fancy. Yeah, kickoff looks great. Looks great. Damn. Check out that chick. Yeah. Look at that chick. Look at that chick. Shout out the guys at the IU college football show who had a sign that said titty fucking is overrated Max was getting a lot of support from the cave. Yeah, you stepped out big cat. I was I was trying to hold titty fucking Yeah about titty fuck. Oh PFT also had an all-time terrible take. What was it? I don't know if it you can't count that as a take

yes, it was what was the take Jayden Daniels came out in a a Jake. Jaden Daniels came out in a, a commander's hoodie. You always talk about Jaden Daniels on this podcast. The commander's and Che goes all PFTs and street clothes and PFT had the hardest stance that they weren't street clothes because they were team. It was team issued gear. But that's just a saying. It was a, it was a jump. It was a jumpsuit, right? So it was like the track suit that you wear on the sidelines, like all the training staff, all that. I've always said that street clothes is if you're wearing clothes that you would wear

on the street, like to the game. And then ESPN tweeted like an hour later, Jane Daniels is on the sidelines. In street clothes. In street clothes. Yeah, it's a saying. Street clothes to me is like you're wearing a blazer or a turtleneck. No When you come back out you're in street clothes. I always thought that it was like yeah I know the saying but I when they say this guy's in street clothes watching the game in the NBA There's always a guy on the bench and he's wearing like a shirt and but if a guy comes back

They'll say street clothes and he'll usually be wearing like sweatpants. I don't know was yes wet pants, but not the team issued I was already I don't know why I'm already I don't know why I'm still arguing about this, even though I've been proven wrong. I'm defending my take that I know is wrong because there's something that I want it to be. Also, you of all people should say that those are street clothes. Well, no, that point got brought up too. It's like PFC where you get dressed like he's six years old every day. I said again, that's a valid point It's a valid those are your streak the haters. Honestly, they get things right from time to time who's nailed that who's saying titty fucking? So overrated in this cave

Everyone everyone was everyone except for me smokes. Well, Nikki smokes is a king of bad opinions Uh, yeah, it was really Nikki smokes and Stephen Che which is probably great. That's awesome that that makes me feel very confident Okay, next up Colts. Actually, let's do a couple ads then we'll the we'll get to the Colts Dolphins PFT Yeah before we get to Colts Dauphin Dolphins. It's brought to you by our great friends over at game time Football seasons here. We can't wait to get out to some games this fall with the help of game time It's the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. Check out the Game Time picks feature. Hank, can you pull up Game Time picks? And let's see what Monday night, what are we working with for the Ravens game?

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better help. H E L P dot com slash PMT. Okay. Colts 16 dolphins 10. This game was tough to watch. Yeah, very. Um, I will try to be nicer about Anthony Richardson for a second. He used his legs well. Yeah, but he also refuses to slide. I don't think they've even had the conversation with him about sliding. Yeah. Yeah. He's gonna run and it's going to be electric when he does. And then he's going to use his face mask to try to stiff arm A defensive back and but he made here's another positive thing. He made it through the game. Yep, and they won the game

so that's good for a young QB's confidence but The throwing thing is still very tough. It is tough. You won the game, but you also kind of beat Tim Boyle Yeah, so Tim Boyle. Yeah. So Tim Boyle being the backup, nice guy. Nice guy. Very nice guy. Nice guy. As good as he is as a quarterback, he's an even better human being. I'll say this about Tim Boyle and I don't know him, but I feel like he probably would prefer not to have to play if you were the third string quarterback not named James

Would you want to play? No, I think that like so what you can't be? Critical of Tim Boyle because if you hit Tim Boyle true serum, he'd be like dude I don't want to get in either and how do you even evaluate this game if you're a Dolphins fan? You have Tim Boyle closing it out Tyler Huntley look good on the first drive I guess but and they ran the ball until they fumbled everywhere and most certain Ingold fumbled. You can't be mad at Tim Boyle, right? No, like I'm saying, like Tim Boyle is probably sitting there

like, dude, I don't want to play. I want to, I have a very nice life as the, what was the third string quarterback then became the backup quarterback. It would be so much better if I could just live my life, have an awesome time being in NFL locker room catching a paycheck I can walk away and be like hey, I played in the NFL which still it's like when we ever lost you on Tim Boyle is still at point

001 percent of football players ever and Tim Boyle is probably the first one to be like god damn it Tim Boyle's and Tim Boyle sucks Yeah, like he doesn't want to play. He feels just like you do. Yeah, he's he's not he's not being like, Hey, it's Tim Boyle time. Call my number. Yeah, I want to get in there. I want to fucking TB. I did he change his number. He was 1412. Yeah, he's TB 1414 now. Now, if you're a Colts fan, enjoy the win. You guys won a football game. Hard to do in the NFL, right? You're in the mix. You're definitely in the mix. Your defense looked pretty good today I guess you can say it didn't fuck up too badly today. No, but it's too boy It's Tim Boyle, but you didn't you didn't ruin it. No, you made Tim Boyle look like Tim Boyle, which is all you can hope for

Yeah, so I don't want to rain on your parade But there was a sad stat that came out after the game Comparing Anthony Richardson with Joe Flacco this season. Five games for Anthony Richardson, three for Joe Flacco, passing yards 783 for Anthony Richardson, 716 for Joe. Pass touchdowns, three for Anthony Richardson, seven for Joe Flacco. Interceptions, six for Anthony Richardson,

one for Joe Flacco. Completion percentage, 48.5 for Anthony Richardson, 65.7 for Joe Flacco completion percentage 48.5 for Anthony Richardson 65.7 for Joe Flacco. Yeah. Um, Joe Flacco did say, I think this week that, uh, Anthony Richardson should play because that's the only way he's going to, if he ever gets better, it's not going to happen on the sidelines, which Joe Flacco is a great guy. We already knew that.

Uh, and again, I don't want to beat up. They won the game. So you have to like, a wins a win. Maybe this gives him confidence being like, find a way to win these games. But, uh, it's everything that I've thought before is the throwing the ball is very important for a quarterback and he doesn't do it very well. That to me is how you know that Joe Flacco was the true quarterback of this team. Yeah. When he's saying you you you should play the guy that's not as good as me So that he can get better and help the team be better. That's a guy that can make your team better. Yeah Yeah Uh, it will be interesting to see if they tread water and they're in a spot because right now they're at the seventh seed

If the playoffs started today if they tread water and it's like hey Maybe we should play Joe Flacco because they play the Texans and the Vikings coming up and those are pretty good defenses so that might not go well and then the Bills and the Jets oh shit the Colts go Texans Vikings Bills Jets Lions that's not gonna be easy no that might not help Anthony Richardson's progress Texans Vikings Bills Jets Lions That's that's not a good stretch. That's not a great stretch for AR 15. The Colts also had a little mishap before the game. Jim or say we're big fans of

his on this podcast. His, his only job, I think during game days is to determine whether or not the roof is going to be open or closed. We all stay glued to our smartphones on Thursdays when he makes that announcement. So I think about roof is going to be open or if the window is going to be open. He said it was going to be a roof open day, which is huge. The roof. It's a, it's a big factor in the Colts recent success. When it's roof open games, they tend to wipe the floor of their opponents. The roof didn't open today.

Oh no, there's a big malfunction with the roof. I don't know what this means going forward. This is probably the last roof open game that you can have on the season. And the stadium let him down today. Oh, no. And so something to keep your eye on. Okay, so we got him. The roof might be malfunction, but also roofs fighting back, maybe but also this might give Jim mercy just a project to work on. So he's not going to be doing any other bad stuff. He's just going to be focused on fixing the roof.

So that might be a good thing. Now don't go up on the roof, Jim. Yeah. Well, he might. Yeah. But that would be dangerous. Yeah. Don't do it.

All right. Eagles 28 Giants three max the Saquon revenge game worked out perfectly. 176 yards, a touchdown. The Saquon Barkley had 176 yards and the New York Giants offense had 119 total yards. If you're trying to script up revenge games, that really can't go better than that. Yeah. Yeah. He's keeping, uh, he's keeping Mr. Mara up at night. Yeah. So sleepover and he was booed. He was booed. So the no boo was wrong. No, that was not what we were debating. You said whether Eagles fans would boo.

Oh, yeah. Well, I think Eagles fans probably did boo because, like I said, I'm consistent. They just heard a boo and they joined it disagree. He also Was pretty shaken up. He said that as he was walking in he saw Giants fans burning his jersey in the Parking lot and he said he was like I've never seen that before with my own eyes and I hope I never see it again I mean that's was what that seemed a little dramatic. Yeah it does.

It seems like John's fans was that serious. It feels like John's fans were trying like laughing about it. Oh yeah. Okay. All right. So he was joking. Yeah. It feels like John's fans were trying to take back some of the narrative in the sake one

thing and turn this hatred that they have or the disappointment they have in their own franchise into just hating Saquon instead. So it is pointing out and be like fuck that guy. So Jason Kelsey had a tweet that that everyone was responding to and he said for the life of me I don't understand why Giants fans hate Saquon for what happened and not the Giants organization for the fact he's an eagle. They've absolutely no one to blame other than the Giants ownership and management decisions for why he's no longer a giant. True. But fans don't if if the Maras, Mr. Mara, sorry, came out in a jersey, he would be booed. He doesn't come out in a jersey. The only outlet they have to boo the Maras and the organization is via Saquon. So I completely understand why some Giants fans were booing Saquon Barkley. That's the that's their outlet Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're displacing their frustration and they're they're like we see Saquon. Maybe they weren't booing Saquon

Maybe they were booing what Saquon represents. Yeah Deserves to be booed. Yeah Yeah, but so it makes perfect sense They might have been booing Saquon because he represents the fact that the ownership let him go and I that's how they're doing Yeah, and I like Jason Kelsey. We were gonna have Mon at some point, right max Yeah, you're the booker you can you can book it. I'm not I'm not the booker, but you could help book it either way Jason Kelsey is of I'll say a friend of the show because we've met him a couple times This is one of those moments where he has been on the show way back in the day

Mm-hmm This is one of those moments where a guy was he doesn't fully understand the fans perspective and it's not no fault to his Like he doesn't understand that fans just have to boo. Yeah, you have to let fans boo Otherwise they like it's like the erectile dysfunction commercials like if you don't boo for you know Multiple weeks you should see a doctor. Yeah booze or lose it. Yeah, right He did also go on to say in the tweet obviously understand their hate of the Eagles and desire for him not to yes Yeah, yeah, he gets it. But I was not surprised at some fans boot

I just know that Saquon just dominated them today Dominate and you knew it was gonna happen to ya like this was he was stepped into the Boston Scott role very nicely today Yeah, and the Eagles defense looked good. They sacked Daniel Jones eight times Yeah, Bryce Huff even got a couple ice off got one Jalen Carter had to Nicoby Dean had to the Giants offensive line sucks especially Andrew Thomas is out and how are we feeling state of the Eagles now it felt good to get a blowout win we haven't seen one of those in a really long time it was nice to like watch football without any stress we had we were sitting next to each other we

both had Eagles minus three it was basically over well they still didn't score a point in the first quarter, which is insane that they haven't scored a point in the first quarter all year, and they're four and two. That's crazy. But it was still nice to just like have a pretty stress free Sunday. Yeah. Sirianni keeps his job. Yeah, good. Good day for Sirianni. Oh, good day for Sirianni. We need to have just a tracker. He's he's like the smoke coming out of the Vatican on he gets to keep his job one more week Yeah, no, and I get to I get to be fluid with my thoughts on siriani 100% that I want that on the record Yes, does he does he get any credit for this?

Yeah, for sure. I also want to say Quinnian Mitchell is amazing. Okay, he's our put on the record our rookie corner Like he he he should be in the conversation Quinian Mitchell is amazing. Okay. He's our put it on the record. Our rookie corner. Like he, he, he should be in the conversation. Toledo. Toledo. Toledo. He's so good. He had neighbors locked up all day. Yeah. So everything's good right now. Yeah. No, today, today was good. Today was a good day. You beat a bad team soundly, which that makes that still counts and it, it makes you feel good, because we've been playing bad teams and not beating them soundly.

Yes. So it's good when you do see that. Yeah. And it's also awesome when your star running back goes home and just absolutely dominates his form. Did you take any extra pleasure knowing that there's probably a significant amount of Mets fans that are also Giants fans?

Yes. Although it's mostly Mets fans. I know amount of Mets fans that are also Giants fans. Yes. Although it's mostly Mets. I know it's Mets, Jess, but I'm assuming that there's still a lot. No, there's both. Yeah. I feel like they all flip-flop. It was more so that we... But it doesn't really mean...

They still have the last laugh. They beat us in the NBA. They beat us in MLB. We had a regular season win against the fucking Giants who fucking suck. The Giants just feel like they have been in disaster franchise mode for an extended extended period of time now. It's like at the end of Eli's career moving forward. Yeah and it's it's very bizarre because you have two Super Bowls in the last whatever it is 16, 17 years. So you can't be like, Oh, they

are a total dumpster fire. But since the Super Bowls, they are a dumpster fire and a truly atrocious organization. I also their defense is going to win them a couple more games. Dexter Lawrence is a monster. And so is Brian Burns. Yeah, their D line is very good. And we'll like I don't think that they're going to be like I'm trying like, like, I think that they're like, they should be trying to lose more than they are. Yeah, like them going out and spending all, all the capital to get Brian Burns is crazy to me. Why did they do that? The and the Daniel Jones is, I mean, he was, he was under duress the entire game, but yeah, he's not He's not the quarterback going forward. I think we've all agreed on that right like he's not gonna be yeah They need to figure something out. Yeah, they got to figure something out and

Dable did a he did a drew lock drew lock spark today. Yep Spark he says spark. That's that's what I'm saying I think you fumbled twice at the end of the season. You have to move on from Jones, but I hope they keep table. And I'm not saying that as a commander, I'm saying that like just as a fan of ball. Yeah, as a fan of high quality football and and the right people being in the right positions. You know, I love that. And I think that Brian Dable is he should stick

around. Don't put all this on him. Yeah, agreed. Agreed. Alright, so Max feeling good foreign to big game against the Bengals huge game against the bank huge game against the Bengals But yeah big game against Bengals the only thing to say but you it feels like you're backing on the season a little bit Yeah, yeah foreign to foreign choose foreign to it's good record well put that and we just got to go into Cincinnati next week beat the Bengals 5 and 2 and then And just in and Jalen hurts has not thrown an interception last two games big is that good you nor nor? I might be bad. It's not taking the risk that he should Just think about it that way there were times

I was getting mad at Jalen today in the first half and then he threw that deep ball to A.J. Brown which was just right on the money on the fourth down of that just saved the season. I think the Eagles roster is still good. You guys were just very, very injured and having both A.J. Brown out and Devontae out, that's huge. And Lane Johnson. And Lane Johnson, yes. Those are probably three out of the four guys that you could stand to lose the least on

offense. Yeah, no. three probably the three out of the four guys that you could stand to lose the least on offense Yeah, no, it's crazy like all of the fire the coach like panic of the eagles this season Yeah, where is that coming from? No, no like i'm saying that to myself. Yeah. Yeah, uh, okay next game bills 34 titans 10 Josh allen's hundredth start in the nfl. Congrats. He's got 68 wins. He's the six most through that's the six most wins through a hundred starts all time and he is third all time for most total touchdowns through a hundred starts. Aaron Rodgers 241, Patrick Holmes 237, Josh Allen 236. Pretty good company. It's great company and no interceptions this season. So he's

having maybe his best season taking care of the ball. The bad Josh isn't around as much. Yeah. And this was a, a weird game because you thought it was maybe a very sleepy spot for the Bills. They were down 10 nothing. The offense looked bad. Defense didn't look good. And then they just were like, Oh yeah, we're the B. We're going to throttle them. 34 unanswered. I saw a stat that the Titans had ran 11 plays in the third quarter for 11 total yards. It's gross. So they just fucked them up on both sides of the ball. And Mario Cooper got going.

He did. Yeah. Scored a touchdown. What was the stat like after Deshaun Watson got taken out of the game? He all of a sudden got good at football during his game. Yeah. It's like he knew. Yeah. He that something, the bad man's gone. He's not going to hurt you anymore. And he just went off. Yeah. So, uh,

it's nice to see Mario Cooper playing well. It is, because I'm sure that he's, he's dealt with some bullshit in his career. And, uh, yeah, Josh, I think Josh Allen is maybe having his best season ever. He's playing lights out and, uh, Keon Coleman looks like a real dude now too. Yeah. Like this was, they, he had a big, big catch, 125 yards. So their offense, you know, they still have to, there still was that two, two game blip on, you know,

the Ravens and Texans back to back, but uh, we'll see. When is their next big, big game? They didn't play that bad against the Texans. No, that was a winnable game. Josh wasn't very good in that game. He also was concussed. We're not that people are gonna say that was some that was being glazing, whatever. Well when I say that Josh is having his best season, I'm saying that for years, all everyone

says like, if you can just get Josh to limit the turnover plays, blah, blah, blah. That's what he's doing. That's what he's doing right now. So you can either like it when he just goes hog wild and does crazy shit all the time and throws a lot of interceptible balls, or he can like what he's doing right now. Do you think so Will Levis has shoulder injury Mason Rudolph started I was actually nervous I thought because I bet the bills

and then I was like, Oh shit, Mason Rudolph is gonna play this might be a competent Titans team Titans are just bad Yeah, bad vibes real bad vibes with the Titans and Andre Hopkins. He had one target this week I think he had six yards. Okay. He's got to be gone right you got a trade They got to be there. They're doing whatever the quiet firing of him is they're just yeah, you can go out there But please for the love of God don't get hurt because we want to help the Chiefs win another Super Bowl this year. Yeah yeah he's he well Calvin Ridley too. Yeah he he probably is gonna get traded and maybe he won't get I don't know Titans should probably give up. Yeah a little bit. They have kind of given up but they should officially

give up. This is what you get when you fire Vrabes. Yeah look at it. We like Brian Callahan he's been dealt not a great hand. Yeah, full rebuild. But yeah, the bills, this was this was one of those games where I was like, the bills should kill the Titans and they ended up killing the Titans. So it feels good to at least know a little bit of ball when this game it was like the you could always say the Titans, they'll at least beat you up a little bit physically on defense. Yeah. And this one was like even the defense, they've had enough. Yeah, they maybe one was like even the defense they've had enough Yeah, they maybe the defense has had enough of watching the Titans offense. Yeah, and they got just as sick of it as we have

Yeah, there was no moss. Yeah, no moss. Okay last one for the early Slate Seahawks 34 Falcons 14 This was our Kirk Cousins off day game. I think I said it in the first quarter He threw a couple passes that were just not accurate and I was like, Ooh, he doesn't look, he doesn't look sharp today. And they did actually the second half, it felt like the Falcons were going to be back in the games. They marched down the field and then the wheels just came off with the fumble, two picks, just the Falcons and they burned a great B. John Robinson day. Yeah. What did I tell you about the Seahawks defense? Yeah. I feel like they, they weren't far away. They, they gave up a decent amount of yards, but they started turning, you know, taking the ball away, which can change anything. Yeah.

This was a trap game for Kirk. This is when he said walk in the trap, take over your trap. Did anybody tell Kirk Cousins that it's a home game? Well, no, he said that about the Panthers. Okay. I thought he was talking about this weekend No, remember we had the memes took ownership for screwing up the graphic. Oh, yeah, that's right That's what made me confused. Yeah, you probably confuse a lot of people out there memes. Yeah, he did I Think I confused a ton Yeah ton of people cuz it would it would make no sense for him to say that when another team is trying to walk into His trap and take over his trap

Gino also is he is fun when when he can has time to throw that touchdown pass to DK at the end of the first half Is DK okay, by the way, did he get carted off? I can never know when he gets carted off if he's just going to take a shit or not I don't know if he got carted off. I think I saw an image of him on a cart. I Did not see that part I did see DK with one of the best blocks of the week where he just used one arm and he's stiff armed a guy With one arm and just stood there like just standing perfectly still. Yeah, like a security guard He was he was little boy in him. Yeah, keeping keeping the quarterback away trying to make a tackle DK Just stands there upright with one arm. It's like no. No, you're not gonna tackle him

Yeah, so they're saying me too many, too many dudes in here. Maybe an MCL strain. So yeah, he got carted off. That's not good. That's not. We're optimistic at this point. It doesn't look too bad. That's good. Mike McDonald said, okay, not looking too bad. Yeah. See, Hawks are fun though. They have so many guys. They're yeah, they're wide receivers and they're a Bobo. It's also just fun to say Bobo Kenneth Walker. But yeah, this was another one where I know that I had a terrible week. But I saw this one coming. Whereas the Falcons were riding a little too high. You know, they won a couple big games and beat up on the

Panthers and the Seahawks. This was hungry dogs run faster, Hank. This Seahawks needed this win very bad. I think these are two very similar teams Yeah, very very not gonna go Deep deep could win a wild card game could be could give someone some fits in the divisional round Unless they play a team from the NFC North. Yeah, or yeah Yeah, but they could maybe be up in the divisional round, but they could also their ceiling They could host a divisional round game against a wild card team from the NFC

North that would beat the fuck out of them. Correct. That would take over their track. Yeah. Cause one of, yeah, they could easily win their, their respective divisions. Yeah. Uh, okay. Anything else from this game? Let's, uh, do a couple more ads and we'll do afternoon games. Maybe talk some playoff baseball as well and some of that football. Yeah. Before we get to the rest of the games that are brought to you by Uber Eats where you can get almost anything. Uber Eats is the best. I use Uber Eats. I've had hand up, I've had a bad bad problem

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Bryce Young doing the scout team impression of Jaden Daniels because Jaden Daniels was out after one play. Yes. So this game was over. They weren't prepared for Marcus Mariotta. Marcus Mariotta. They don't have anybody on the roster that can emulate him as well as Jaden. I hope he's okay.

It was, I don't want to say it was boring because it was an ass kicking and our offense looked good without Jaden. It's fun to play the Panthers. People are asking if Jayden Daniels is a system quarterback. If he is, then I fucking love this system. Yeah. But you just got to keep Cliff Kingsbury. We got to keep Cliff.

Yeah. But a good performance by the defense today. Defense played really, really well. Again, we played the Panthers, but the Panthers offense hasn't always been that bad this season. They've had a couple of good games here and there. So I have a question for you about the Marcus Marriott thing, because I know that if that had happened to me and Tyson Bajan came in and looked awesome, my mentions would just be flooded with people being like, Kale Williams actually sucks. Anyone could do it. Was that happening to you? I chose to not look at my

mental smart. That's very smart. The time that I did I saw and I saw you guys getting tagged in a lot is Jayden Daniels, a system quarterback. Maybe just mute the word system for a couple days. Are the commanders better without Jayden Daniels? I knew that was coming because that's just how the internet has to work. Well, I also I I tweeted out that not getting to watch Jaden makes me want to memes myself. And then I got reported to, uh, actually Twitter reach, excuse me, X reached out to me with a safety notification. We're writing to you because a concerned individual has recently alerted to us to potentially suicidal or self-harming comments posted on your account.

How do they know what memes myself even means? They're listeners. It's not just self-harm. It's also blowing up the entire NFL office. Yeah, that's true. But there's a lot. But I think it's a rib of some sort. He has a rib confirmed. I will give Jaden Daniels one of my ribs. I volunteer as tribute. You can remove one of my ribs, put it in Jaden's sternum and then just sew them up and hopefully he'll be fine. But it could be worse. It could be worse it could be worse when he went we went out at first I was like very concerned because I've seen this movie before with quarterback right but I don't think that it's I don't think that it's anything super long-term so so do

you think he's gonna play next week I think he could have come back and played today but we're really him to play next week yeah no we'll suck if he doesn't play next yes I hope that he plays next week if he's healthy. I'm concerned about his long term health right now. Yeah, I he's got to play next week though for America for this show for this show and specifically for this show and the ratings of this show and we need just this show. We need that. Yeah. But yeah, I think our defense played awesome. Our running game looked good again. Again, we played the Panthers. I mean the Panthers are so they've reached they've reached levels that are like because

we talked about on Friday, but Andy Dalton, he gave him that one game bump. That's way long gone. I don't know why they don't just play Bryce Young anymore. Bryce Young could easily throw a pick six and another pick to put them in a big hole and then the game be over in the first quarter. He could have done that. Yeah, he could have. And so Andy Dalton had 93 yards, two interceptions, no touchdowns. Well, he threw a touchdown to you. Through a touchdown to us. Pick six right off the bat was really nice. I truly enjoyed that. And also, again, if our defense can somehow learn how to be good, then that's going to be incredible

for the season because our defense, I know for fact they're not good but they played really good today yeah so I'm happy with that Andy Dalton I feel like putting Bryce Young back in I don't know if that's really solves anything or if that's even good for Bryce Young but what but what's the alternate like you're gonna lose anyway yeah Andy Dalton nice guy recurring. Love to have him on when he retires again. But you're going to lose anyway. What's the downside of it's kind of similar to the Anthony Richardson where it's like play them and see what you got. What's the work? Where are you going to end up that's different than where you are right now? Because if he he's bad you're at the exact same spot

My theory is that the Panthers aren't doing it because they're trying to trade Bryce young He's not he doesn't have trade value, but he could potentially get injured I'm sure that so there's some team out there that would give up like a six or a seven Maybe a seven that's not worth truck a six to me is not worth The whatever you want to call it, 2% chance that Bryce Young something happens where he just figured it out and he's good. Would you say that you know Ball better than David Tepper? Because I think you probably do.

I do. So David Tepper might not be thinking about it in that mindset. It's just it makes no sense to me. David Tepper probably thinks that he's worth like a third round pick. The other part of it is like Dave Canales, you just got hired. I don't think you're gonna get fired after one year Like it doesn't seem like that's gonna be the case because you you got hired into a shitty situation So it it would be like I would understand it if it was a guy who was three years into the deal and as a head

Coach and he's like we have to win games in order for me to keep my job Andy Dalton probably gives us the best chance even though he's not giving you a chance anymore. Then it would make sense, but none of it makes sense. Dave Canales, like, the best possible outcome for all of this is Bryce Young. Again, it's probably a 2% chance is somehow good. Every other outcome you've already kind of figured out and it all sucks.

I would like to formally remove the tag quarterback whisperer from Dave Canales for at least one full season. Yeah. So like in the off season, when the Panthers get a new quarterback in, you're not allowed to call Dave Canales a quarterback. I agree. I agree. You lost that privilege. I agree. You were brought into whisper to Bryce, and you did not whisper effectively enough to Bryce. The Panthers have given up 279 points through six games, or have they played seven? They I think they've maybe have played seven. They played seven. That's the most since 1954 through seven weeks. That's pretty crazy. It's not all on the quarterback.

Now some of those are from short field. Some of those are from pick sixes like we saw today. Yeah, no, they're deep. I guess the way I'd sum up the Panthers and I'm sorry Panthers fans but they also know this. Their defense is atrocious. Their offense is slightly better than atrocious. Yeah. Yeah. At times their offenses, I'd say serviceable. Yeah, but it's kind of not even anymore. It wasn't that Raiders game. Yeah. They look good in those pants though today. The commander's off the commander's pants. The yellow pants are great. Wear those every single day. That was the best pants matchup of the day. Easily, easily the best pants matchup.

Were they both throwback pants? They might have been. I think they were both throwback pants, yeah. Commanders can't have throwbacks. They should do throwbacks though. What do you mean? Oh, you talking to the skins? Skins, just call them the skins.

Yeah, why not? Call them the skins. But it was Darryl Gimmiday today, that was nice. Everyone has skin. We were talking about it earlier, but we were looking ahead at the schedule And on Sunday, November 10th, there is a game being played in Munich, Germany Between the Giants and the Panthers. We're finally even for World War two. That's that is oh My god back big cat. Wait, are the pants? Nope, the Panthers don't have a buy next week I was hoping that they maybe had a buy so we could just be

Away from them for a week. Just go scrimmage the Dolphins Yeah, this this is and then the Saints in two weeks for the Panthers. That's gonna be a Nobody believes in anyone bull that might be Derek Carr coming back beating the fuck out of the Panthers Yeah, like are the Saints good again? Yeah. It's just a sad state. I feel bad for Panthers fans. Uh, but I, I'm, I'll stand on the, I'll stand on a soap box and say, why not start Bryce Young? There's nothing, there's no alternative that is worse than what's happening right now. Bryce Young can come in and be god-awful and nothing will change. Right? I think the only thing you have to lose is potentially a low draft pick. And it's as low as it could be. That's about it.

Yeah. Well, there's also the risk that you trade them for another backup quarterback on a different team and then you bring that guy in and all of a sudden he's good on the Panthers with quarterback whisperer Dave Canales. Dave Canales. And then you ruin your draft pick. Yeah. So that's an issue. Or like the Browns should just trade for him right now. Although we want Jamis to stop. Yeah, we want Jamis. We want Jamis for sure.

Now I would like to formally open up if you're a Panthers fan, all aboard the bandwagon. I'm accepting anybody on the commander's bandwagon. Oh, okay. That's very nice of you. Yeah, if you want to root for the commanders, please, the more the merrier, I'm down for it. The Panthers don't even have the first pick right now That's even sad. It does the Patriots. Oh, yeah, that's good Hey, that's really sad the Panthers don't even have the first pick because their strength the schedule is too good

Well, you can't screw up the first pick if you're the Panthers then yeah, I guess that's true. Not bad I guess that's true. I just want Jayden to be healthy. I want him to be okay. We're five and two which is awesome He's got a plan. So we're still first place in the division happy about that. I want Jayden to be healthy I hope that he plays I think judging from how he was signaling touchdown on the sidelines I think he's gonna be okay the long term Health is important, but more important is him playing next week To some people I you have to be you you have to be in that camp next week. To some people.

You have to be, you have to be in that camp. Yes, but I don't want him to get hurt more this week. The last eight months of this show have revolved around Sunday. Yeah. You have to, I don't know what message you can send, but he, it's just, it's the Super Bowl. I'll do my best. I think he's funny.

He has to, Meev just said he has to play. You saw how he put his two hands up, right? It was funny watching you. I mean, it's not funny because I hope he's funny. He has the memes just said he has to play you saw how he put his two hands up, right? It was funny watching you. I mean, it's not funny because I hope he's okay and I did right away I was like, I think it's ribs, which is way better than any alternative. But when he went down On that run at the goal line and you were like no He was going down anyway, and I was very relatable moment where you just had to, you were just, your mind was racing. I was gonna just say things until I was proven opposite. That's kind of how I was gonna operate.

Che said that he thought maybe he got a wood chip in his underneath his jersey. Which makes no sense. I said, Che, how did he get a wood chip? He said, I don't know, maybe he stopped by a playground at some point today. That would have been awesome. They take him back, they put him in the X-ray machine

and they're like, yeah, you got a wood chip Hey, Jaden, what the fuck you got a wood chip? Yeah, I'm gonna write you a prescription for one bath Yeah, what the hell man? Why are you carrying on this wood chip? That could be dangerous. I hope he's okay. I think he's okay Yeah, okay another stinky game Rams Raiders Rams 20 Raiders 15 Rams are back ish in the fact that they won off their buy 20 Raiders 15 Rams are back ish in the fact that they went off their by Antonio Pierce pulled them out before and I don't want to bring up Matt before because he's doing well and his co he's his team is good and all that stuff but he pulled them out the floor Antonio Pierce kicked a field goal down eight on the nine yard line with all three timeouts to

make a one score game a one score game. Yeah, we were watching that in the studio and I thought I was missing something. Yeah. So I checked with Big Cat. I was like, he shouldn't be kicking this, right? And it's absolutely fucking not. You should not be kicking that field. No. It makes zero sense. But that's also, it's a very interim head coach type move. He does a lot of things.

He is the head coach. Yeah, I know. But he still very much operates as an interim head coach type move. He does a lot of things. He is that coach. Yeah, I know. But he's still very much operates as an interim head coach, like the way that the way that he runs the team. It's just all about like, you know, being more physical covering the spread covering the spread. Some points are better than no points. So Antonio Pierce sees Isaac fourth down. I know that's kind of scary. If I don't convert this, we lose the ball. Yeah, might as well kick a meaningless field

goal. And then they got the ball back with like a minute left On their own ten and Garner Minshew who came in because I think he no kind of broke his thumb Which is just another sad chapter in the saddest QB carousel possible. I They the Raiders are just so lost and the Rams it wasn't like they lit it up But I think the Rams are close to getting some of their guys back. I feel like Cooper Cup was almost going to play this week. So if you're, and guess what?

Reminder to everyone out there, Oh, we should play whose lines anyway for Thursday night football. We have to take the Rams on Thursday night because they're playing the Vikings who just played the lions and that's the new trend. Yep. So Vikings at Rams whose line is it anyway? Brought to you by DraftKings. Oh wait just played. What? That's this Thursday? Yeah. This Thursday? Yeah. Shit okay. Vikings I'm gonna say are four point favorites. That sounds pretty good. I'll go, I'll go five and a half. It is Vikings minus three.

Oh, they're onto us. Yep. They're on to us. So we got to take the Rams. I don't want to take the Rams. We have to take the Rams. Yeah, it's definitely a Rams play. You have to. I feel like yeah, the Rams, they're have to take the Rams. Yeah, it's definitely a Rams play. You have to, I feel like, yeah, the Rams, they're a very well coached team. Obviously they always manage to win a couple of games that they shouldn't when they're dealing with injuries and they're, they have to get less injured, right? They can't get any more injured than they have

been. No. And, and if you look at the Ram season, besides that Cardinal stinker where it's burned, burn the tape and bury the football. They've been in every game They have been you know, their losses are all one score losses and they've been in every game against some really tough teams So maybe the Rams can turn the corner They are my pinky team but maybe they can turn the corner and they beat the Vikings gets to To three and four and that division isn't as locked up as we thought it would be. Three and four and then going to play the Seahawks. Yeah.

And then they get the Dolphins and Patriots. So the Rams, uh-oh. Maybe I'm just talking myself into a team that I know that is not good. Are they your Don't Look Now team? No. They're the They Just Beat the Raiders. They're my Don't Look Now team because I

don't really like watching. We need a list of teams that we just have on a board. So whenever a team wins that we just have on a board. So whenever, uh, one, when a team wins, we just be like, did they, did they, are they back or did they play this team? Yeah. Raiders and the Panthers, Panthers, Browns, maybe, maybe Browns. Jaguars are, I mean, Jaguars are now have two wins. So that kind of changes my don't look now. You know who might be on that list? Saints. Saints. Yeah, I think they're on that could be on that list You have just like just just pause and ask yourself. Are they back or do they play this team?

Yeah, I feel like did both the Jaguars and the Patriots are on that list Yes, so we don't know if the Jags are good because they just yeah I mean, I know this is all play on myself because the Bears played half of these teams Which I'm very much aware of and honest about but I don't care I don't care took care of business the Rams are not on that list. No, the Rams are frisky. They beat the Rams bang Boom Titans are on that list fuck. They beat the Titans Yeah, let's see who else we got on that's the last thing that's a Giants Giants could be on that list Are the giant we'll find out are the Giants what what's that face max?

Giants think yeah, I know so it's like are they is your team back or do they play this team? No, yeah, I said this yeah, I've already said that yeah Alright, so we've actually we've all played these teams Yeah, a lot of these good amount. What are the last? What are the last three commanders wins two commanders last to commit well today? Yeah panthers and then before that was the Browns. What are the last two? Eagles wins That would be the Giants and the Browns and the last two bears wins are the Jaguars in the pants

That's okay. You play really bad bad you play who you play we just broke the fourth wall maybe the NFL just stinks maybe NFL well guess what we can't apologize for being foreign to I had a bye week this week four and two five and two five and two five and two because imagine if we were a first overall pair that was one in six or two and five yikes memes is two and five is so much worse so much worse five is atrocious the Jets might be on that list too yeah the Jets could be on that list the Steelers are they back is Rossi back or did he play the jet see we don't know we don't know yeah this is a man we this whole room might be in this room this room no this room might

be well No, because I I would like to address that because some people want me to put the Bears in the frauds tag I don't think the Bears can win the Superball that People have to understand that year that we called the Vikings frauds. That was because people were saying they could go to the Super Yeah, they had a negative point differential the Dolphins last year when they beat up on every bad team and lost the good teams But everyone's like they're still like a dangerous team. I was like, no, they're not I don't think the Bears are a dangerous team yet in any respect. They have to prove it They have to beat where you guys are playoff team right now. Yeah, but they have to beat good teams

I'm fully transparent what happens next building some if it's Jaden verse Caleb Does the winner that get to say like that's going to be are they good or did they just beat the Bears or are they good or did they beat the team that just beat the Browns and the Panthers or are they good or they just beat the team that beat the Jaguars in the panthers? I do feel like the worst teams. Jaden needs to play. Yes. I want to play. This is no joke. My day and my entire week is so much better just because of that little like three hour window where I get to watch Jaden Daniels play football. That's why I was bummed out today.

Yeah, we kicked the fuck out of the Panthers, which was awesome. Good. Defense looked good. Running game looked good. A lot of stuff looked good. But I didn't get that three hour window of watching my favorite athlete do unreal shit on the field while wearing the colors that I like to look at on TV. I don't really care about that. I care about

Jaden Daniels versus Caleb Williams. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah, I don't care. That's I don't care that you don't care about. Hank, what are your thoughts? We need it. Max brought up a good point though. Maybe the NFL just sucks. Oh like half of the teams just suck. I don't think half the teams suck. I think the worst teams there's there are a lot of really bad teams right? All right. Hold on. Let's let's just let's just list I'm gonna say a team and you tell me if they suck Okay, well say good or good or bad or no No, tell me if they suck cuz there's teams that are in the middle like the I mean the Bengals are not they don't suck

No, they don't. Yeah. All right Or did they just beat the Browns? No, they haven't caught QB Col they don't. Yeah, alright. Or did they just beat the Browns? No, they haven't beat QB. Colts don't suck, right? They don't suck. Colts suck. They suck? Yes.

They're shitty, they're shitty, but they don't suck. Okay, here we go. Dolphins. Suck. Raiders. They suck. Jets. Suck.

Jaguars. Still time. The Jaguars suck? Suck. Yeah. Suck. No, they suck. They suck the Titans suck Browns suck Patriots suck. Okay, that's seven in the AFC Cowboys

They stink. Yeah, I think they suck. Ah just got smoked the I'm just going under five. I think Cowboys and Bengals are the same. I don't think Cowboys and Bengals are the same. Cowboys, Bengals, Jets are all kind of separate. I disagree, I think the Bengals are better than all those teams. And that's cause of the probably QB.

I think the Bengals are better than all those teams. I think the Cowboys, yeah, the Cowboys and the Jets are very similar. Okay, here we go. Cardinals. Good. No. They don't suck. They don't suck. Okay. Rams. No. Saints. Yes. Giants. Yes. Suck. Panthers. Suck. So 10 teams suck. But the majority of them are in the AFC

seven of the 10 teams that sucker in the AFC. The AFC sucks. Yeah, I think that's what the big I think that's what we just figured out the AFC sucks. They do Yeah, and if you would ask me like three weeks ago I would have said that she's Broncos would be in that list to the current Rams suck, but they won't suck I don't think they suck though because again besides that one loss. They've been they lost Less than a touchdown to every other team. They put they'd lost the rate But they lost an overtime to the Lions Lions They lost by five to the Packers. They lost by six to the Bears like they don't suck

I do think there's a difference between somebody a team that sucks and a team that sucks But has a quarterback that I know is capable of not suck correct. So Matt Stafford. He is very capable of not sucking That means that the whole team as an entire unit. You can't say that they suck I think it's I think it's a strong 10 that suck. We didn't count the Rams to suck. You think they suck, huh? Max? At I don't, when they get their guys back, I don't think they will. Okay. I think that, I think that the current Rams suck. Okay. Either way. I think that just proves. Yeah. The AFC is bad. The AFC you can,

it's basically, proves. Yeah, the AFC is bad. The AFC you can it's basically, it's going to be a competition between the Bengals. And I don't even think I think the Bengals are gonna be in the playoffs. It's like the Chiefs, a bunch of teams that think that they can beat the Chiefs, and then a bunch of teams that have completely given up on beating the Chiefs and are trying to build for the future. Right. That's the AFC. Right. And then

the Ravens. Because the Ravens are in that category of they, they are like extra think they could beat the chief. Yeah. But we know that they think they know they can beat the chief. Right. They think that if they just if they just flex a little bit and run the ball and then forget to run the ball, they could beat the chief. I actually think they know that they think they can beat the chiefs. Right. But then the problem is the chiefs know that they the chiefs know the Ravens think that they think they can beat the Chiefs. Right. But then the problem is the Chiefs know that they...

The Chiefs know the Ravens think that they can beat the Chiefs. But they know that they can't. They know they can't. Yeah. Right. Exactly. All right. So that was the entire NFL breaking down.

Let's talk about the last game. Actually, second to last game. Chiefs 49ers, Chiefs 28, 49ers 18. I am the idiot who bet against Patrick Holmes is an underdog now No, actually I was gonna make an excuse for myself and be like well Debo Samuel played three plays and Brandon I you Probably is out for the year And Joanne Jennings was out, but there is no excuse I'm just a moron and I should I should just stop gambling or at least on the Chiefs

No, I just feel like if you can't if you just if you try to outsmart Patrick Holmes underdog You're just a moron which guilty is charged I'm a fucking more and also Andy Reid off a bye and I learned my lesson last year on in the Super Bowl and I Bet on Patrick Holmes in Super Bowl and I just was like nah, you know what? I've got smarter the Chiefs were fucking around with the 49ers today too. Do you see that play that they ran where it was Carson Wentz and Patrick Mahomes in the back field. That's what really sucked actually was within like five minutes I had to watch Jayden get taken out of the game and then Carson Wentz on the field. On the Chiefs.

Which really bummed me out, but they they ran a play where Carson gave like an inside handoff and then they had Mahomes trailing around. I'm going to predict Andy Reid's next fuck shit that he's going to do at some point this season. Yeah. I think he's going to run a play with Carson Wentz and Mahomes on the field at the same time. Little inside handoff. Carson Wentz to their running back pitches it back to Mahomes and then Mahomes throws for a touchdown maybe even to Carson Wentz yeah or maybe Mahomes throws it to Travis Kelsey who then pitches it back to Carson Wentz yeah yeah they're gonna try to run like a good fundamentally sound basketball offense

where you're not allowed to wait till every player touches the ball yeah the big story though here and I know the Niners are dealing with a lot of injuries, but the Chiefs defense is just nasty They're just nasty nasty nasty. They're nasty boys. They're they fuck shit up They stop the run and they fuck you up another way. They turned Brock pretty through three interceptions This also there's a stat that's about the Chiefs defense and I obviously I think highly Patrick Holmes. He's the best quarterback in the NFL Patrick Holmes is the first quarterback since Peyton Manning in 2015 to start 6-0 with more Interceptions than touchdowns. Yeah, and he has he had two picks today. He has eight picks on the season six touchdowns every single

every single Game he's thrown a pick. He's doing the Will Levis. But it doesn't matter because the Chief's defense is awesome. Impact from home makes plays when he has to. And he also has figured out the perfect way to have everyone not tackle him when he's running along the sideline. Yeah. Yeah. He acts like he's going to go out of bounds and then players pull up and then he does a little cutback, hops forward for like two yards. He's just there. They just have a formula now that and I think that Patrick Holmes will get better as the

season goes along and he gets more comfortable with his receivers and Xavier worthy and all that. But it doesn't matter because they'll just win whatever way they have to win. Like Andy Reid is just pounding the rock now, which he historically never did. They ran the ball down their throats 184 yards. I just, the Chiefs are just inevitable. There's nothing. I mean, what should we predict the Chiefs first loss? I don't really know. They're, they're not going to lose to the Raiders next week. I wouldn't put it past the Raiders though.

No, I would. If there's one team that's, that's not going to pull up on Patrick Mahomes when he goes to the sidelines, that would probably be the Raiders though. No, I would. If there's one team that's that's not going to pull up on Patrick Mahomes when he goes to the sidelines, that would probably be the Raiders defense. I'm going to say I'm going to say their first loss is going to happen November 17th against the Bills and then the Bills are going to be like we can beat the Chiefs and they're going to lose in the playoffs. Let's see Chiefs schedule. I can see the Bucks Bucks making some magic happen. I can't wait to see what the Panthers chiefs line is going to be. 17. I could see the Bucs beat them too. Yeah, maybe. But that's that's in Kansas City. And that's a Monday night game. So no, you can't. Don't let your Stephen Che. I'm not I'm talking about Patrick

Holmes Monday Night Football. That show. That's Yeah, there you go, Hank. I've got big news on that front. Stephen Che has been released by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as a fan in order to gain more people's acceptance of that I love that officially released that was confirmed to me on Friday by a high-level executive. Good. Good. Ah Let me read a tweet for you and you tell me if this is a good or bad thing or just I don't even know What to make of it. This is from Grant Cohn who covers the 49ers. He said Kyle Shanahan just lectured Brock Purdy for five minutes at his locker. Purdy listened and said nothing. Never seen anything like it. Are you talking about coaching? I was there swing coaching and lecturing the five minutes with nothing. Purdy saying

nothing back. That's weird. It is kind of strange. Pretty is pretty is a very good quarterback when you don't ask him to be your entire offense. And now with all the guys out, he has to really handle a bigger load and it fell apart today. Like he was, he was lost out there and uh, the chiefs are just good. See, Spagnola is fucking good. He's see Spagnola. Is he in 1-1 in Best coordinators who should never be a head coach again He's yes. Yes, or is Flores

Coach could be I think Vic Fangio is on that list I don't know Flores is gonna be a head coach though because he's got the lawsuits against the NFL and he's probably gonna be Blackballed from that and there's like lost draft picks and fines and shit. I would say Spagnola is number one. Cliff Kingsbury is on that list. He is, but he will be a head coach. He will be. There's so many dumb owners in the NFL that Cliff Kingsbury a million percent will be. I hope he doesn't. I hope he's coordinated for life. Vic Fangio is for sure on that list. Yeah. Fangio is on that list.

But yeah, he's Steve Sagnola like just incredible. He might be one of the best defensive coordinators ever. And he was not that great of a head coach. Yeah, sometimes you can't do it all. Joe Brady. He hasn't had a chance as a head coach. True. True. True. There's one that maybe recently is unemployed that I might put on that list. Oh yeah? Salah. Salah. Yeah, although.

Is he a bad head coach or was he just on the Jets? Yeah, that's probably just the Jets. We should probably talk about the Jets. So the Steelers kicked the shit out of the Jets on Sunday Night Football. What was the final score memes 35 16 15 36 15 37 15 to 38 15. What was it? Russie 715 37 15 Russie kind of cooked Russie was good man. He was throwing the moon ball again He he sucked in the first quarter. He He got booed. He was throwing the

ball at people's feet. He was getting sacked. It was like, damn, we have seen this Russ before. And then he just started saying, fuck it. I'm going to throw it up to George Pickens. I'm going to throw it up to Pat Fryermuth. And the one thing about Russell Wilson is he'll give his guys a chance. And he was doing that and George Pickens can catch literally anything and the Steelers defense started swarming and the Jets are now two and five but They hit the Hassan reddit button. Yep. So that's their excuse this week Yeah, I guess it's a reason to be happy happier than you would have been After this loss who what are you gonna do next week when you lose? I would just like to apologize everybody listening

Okay, we suck Yeah, we suck We have no identity. We just we're just a bad football team. I'm beginning to doubt Obrick's credentials as interim coach. I He he couldn't throw the challenge flag This is the only team in the history of football that has not gotten an interim bump. Yeah. There's just no juice anywhere. There's like when, when one side of the ball is playing good, the other side is playing bad.

When offensive line is playing good and Rogers plays bad and Rogers can't turn fucking left. Can I submit a theory to memes? Yes. Maybe you're not getting the interim bump because Robert Sala is still secretly coaching the team. Well his stink is all over the team. Well he's apparently calling and texting with all the coaches on a daily basis. Who'd you hear that from? That was Collinsworth on the broadcast tonight. That's not good. No so that's what I'm saying like I don't know if you truly have an interim head coach right now. I don't know what we have. We just suck. Well is that not weird?

Yeah, it is so weird. Yeah, so weird and credit to Devontae Adams Devontae Adams is a stud. He's a stud and he made a smart move He went from a two and five team to a two and five team. Good for him Yeah, we traded for a Porsche and brought him into a garage and just let it on fire the fucking explode That's a great analogy is his tackle was so sick. Yeah, he did. Oh, he plays defense now He didn't give up you see that no. I know but he what you don't want to Vonte Adams tackling no He did everything he needed to do and Rodgers just can't look left. There was on the interception that changed the entire game.

Literally. Once that interception happened, the game just... Are you talking about the Garrett Wilson? Yeah, the first Garrett Wilson. Yeah, where it just hit him in the chest? No, no, no. The first one. Oh.

It was over the middle. Oh, oh, Beanie got it. Yeah. Beanie got it. Devonte Adams would just run up the sideline wide open. Oh, and he just couldn't turn left. I have a question Yeah, does Garrett Wilson suck. Oh Good question. I don't think Garrett Wilson sucks. No, I don't think he sucks. I just feel like he's he's not great I would say that was the interception that turned everything when the ball went right off of them And then the Steelers returned it to like the four yard line I think that was the one that changed the game you're right But I'm saying the the energy you said while we were watching the game like it was a freaky Friday situation between Russell Wilson and

Aaron Rodgers That's that's that's where that happened. I think I said that did he throw three picks No, just do okay. I think it was maybe when he threw it in the ground and just missed a wide open receiver. Yeah, he's... When TJ jumped up, swatted it with two hands? Yeah, it's bad memes. You guys are just... You're still the Jets. This is... It's so bad. We're as Jets as possible. Yeah, you've reached the peak Jets. This is peak. Where's your defense? You guys couldn't make a tackle. It was weird.

Well we haven't been able to stop the run all season. Sonradik fixes this. He also can't stop the run. Oh shit. Well that's bad. Aaron Rodgers-Akely's screwed up the entire Jets timeline. You think everything was great before that happened? You think that?

Yeah, you think you guys? Well, I mean, the team was good. Yeah. Were they? The defense was good at least. Yeah. So last year was Zach Wilson after week seven. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no no these are these are tainted stuff

Are you two and five right now? Yeah, Zach Wilson was four and three oh Four and three It was four and with the training staff that you didn't want us to bring up now the fucking Trey Wingo said Through week six the Jets have the same exact point scored from last season to this season It sounds like a floreo to me. Yeah, but they're full. They're foreign. They were four and three They were four and three Yeah, I think the year before that they were five and one oh

man so So bring Zack back bring Zack back I think So brings back back brings back back I think Know that defenses on those teams were incredible and now we just can't stop the run We could put we could put max and there were six and he'll destroy our defense. There's six. Yes fact I fucking run run them over. Oh when you had Mike white in 2021 you were you were to it You were two and five same Same record as this year. Memes is also just going through this remaining schedule and just telling me wins. They're

like, that's a win. That's a win. Who's a win? Okay, let's go memes. There's no wins left after tonight. No, there's wins. No, there's wins, but there's no, you guys will win another game. You're not hearing what I'm saying though. There's no, oh, that's wins. No, there's wins, but there's no you guys will win another game. You're not hearing what I'm saying though There's no oh, that's guaranteed a win Mmm, I see one. I get the Patriots at the end of the year. They have the Patriots next week next week We're gonna be on top of the schedule. All right

Patriots is a win Houston Defense could be no no no no we're done with this exercise Defense could be no no no no we're done with this exercise No, no no no no no I'm refusing to accept that as a loss because you truly think that they can win that game if If the defense looks better with his own redic But that's the thing it's just coming together as a team and they just can't come together as a team you add Devante Adams Adams, he gets open. You just have to throw him the ball and you can't even look left. All right. Let's do it. Let's go back to the Patriots. Good question. Great question. Max at New England.

I'll see you when I see you. All right. New England a win. Houston will go loss. Okay. Arizona when? Okay. Indianapolis Sunday night football. We're not great on prime time. Can they flex that? Yeah, I think so. The jets have had like 100 prime time games. If they flex it, when? Okay. Seattle at home. win Miami with maybe two about with two at Miami Miami. Okay at Jacksonville win Los Angeles Rams depending who they have back But isn't their defense terrible well we just say you got to make the playoffs. We don't know defense is terrible Yeah, say it when okay, Buffalo at Buffalo loss. Okay, Miami at home when So you and this is like the best case scenario you have nine wins And we'd miss the playoffs

Yeah, I don't know the I was bad though memes No, you gotta we gotta win them all pretty, you gotta win them all pretty much. You gotta win them all. It's time for the run the table. You gotta run the table. You gotta hit the run the table button memes. We have to, we already have to run the table. Well, your best record, the best record you could go right now is 12 and five. That's winning every single game. You have to imagine that you're going to lose at least two more games. So that's 10 and seven and probably you're gonna lose three more games. So that's nine and eight. That would be a, you'd be finishing seven and three and you would finish. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Seven

and three and you finish nine and eight. You're going to go seven and three with this team. I don't think so. Okay. I think the season's over. Yeah, it might be. I feel like you have, you can lose to the Patriots And that's when Aaron Rodgers smashes the run-the-table button Well after like a devastating loss and what do you do if they go? You know what memes? I'm gonna give you this I'm gonna give you this. This is a this is I've said this before on this show that you have a portal game Remember I used to talk about portal games where if the bit like I would be like if the Bears win this game then it

Opens up a portal of happiness to where I could see things happening. Okay. The Houston Texans is your portal. Yeah. You beat them. You beat the Patriots. If you beat the Texans everything is back. If you lose the Texans shut it down. That's the portal game. It's just fire sale. That's it. That. Yeah. And you got a fire old brick. You got a fire old brick. He's beams. Max support. Oh, game. Can we play whose line it is? Is it any way for at new England? Yes. Yes. We keep just, you know what? Yeah. All right. Row back question. R H O P a C K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. Hank, whose line is it anyway?

DraftKings. Whose line do you think it is anyway? I think it's Jets heavily favored. I think it's Jets minus their favored by seven and a half. I think we were seven and a half last time at home. I'll say five. I think it's Jets minus eight. No, Jets minus six. Drake May, Drake May changes it. I'll Jets minus eight. No Jets minus six

Drake may Drake may changes it. Let's go minus three. It is the New England Patriots Plus six and a half. Okay. Okay Okay So not a win Hank. How do you feel about that game? Hank if you win this game win that oh my Yeah, wow, this is a portal game for Hank. This an uh what an undercard for the Caleb Williams versus Marcus Mariota bowl We just did this This is different now You almost killed me when I walked in the office on that day

Yeah, you wanted to punch him that night Yeah, I don't think I'll get to that point this time Unless he says so That was back when the Jets were 2-1 Yeah, no I won't punch him this time It does feel like a completely different team from a month ago doesn't it yeah well you guys won that game you've won since no they have not that was their last win I think we the only teams we

beat are both one and five yes that would be correct yeah well actually the Patriots are one and six one is X yeah the Titans are one of five yeah beating one and five teams is this is actually, the tech the Titans are one of five. Yeah beating one and five teams is actually good to me You're a good team. Yes we have to Eat, I mean two and five play who you play. I Think Ross is back though. I think the Steelers are good. I do too. The defense is obviously They've been good for the last it feels like five seasons tonight was a master class in Mike Tomlin voodoo

It was like block kicks Receivers having balls like bounce off them into to a Steelers hand Batting down balls the line renegade just fucking bumping run the football run the football They ran the fuck out of the football and Russell Wilson loves George Pickens That's the biggest that's like George Pickens Probably pretty happy for the first time maybe in his life after the football game today because Russell Wilson was like I see George downfield I'm just gonna throw the ball up because he can win a one-on-one catch against anybody in the league Yeah, and keeping him you have to he's like a child with ADD

You have to like snap and be like hey pay attention pay attention Best way to do that is by giving the football all the. You have to like snap and be like, hey, pay attention, pay attention. Best way to do that is by giving the football all the time. Giving him the football. And I feel like George Pickens respects Russ for the fact that he gets the football and also the fact that George Pickens broke the news on Friday that Russell Wilson was going to be starting. I would have loved to see a camera on Mike Tomlin when somebody told him, hey, listen,

George just talked to the media and he gave away your starting quarterback. It was those back to back stories. Mike, Tom was like, we don't know who we're going with on Sunday night. And then 20 minutes later, George Pickens was like, yeah, I've been working extra hard with Russell Wilson after practice every day. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think maybe Russell Wilson respects George for saying that for naming him as the starting quarterback. He doesn't want to let him down.

Russ, Russ was cooking. He was cooking. Russell Wilson throws two touchdowns. He's not afraid to throw it across the field. That's the thing. The Steelers just, they don't use, they've got reverse blinders on where they're like, we're not going to even glance at the middle of the field if we're throwing a pass. And now Russ was, he was doing that. He was rolling out. He didn't look fast, but he looked more athletic than I thought he would look. Yeah, I Think I'm gonna take the giant so next week now that I'm looking at it because that's that's a classic Tomlin letdown spot Is it home or away? It's home. Are they wearing the block letters? That's big

Now the block letters are five and oh those block letters were huge like a massive. Yeah, like numbers were massive Okay, so that's that's our full week 7 we have a World Series oh no memes is your mic still on we can talk about the Liberty later yeah the Liberty are sick memes your mic is still on it's on so the Mets lost Mets lost yeah went outside I thought the Rizler was gonna save the season I did too I. I thought the Rizler was gonna save the season I did too. I really did think the Rizler was gonna save the season Incredible run for the Mets the Dodgers are just so goddamn good. They are They are insanely insanely good

It just felt like every at bat. They just grind you down. They beat you up and We saw it like they they're they have hitters everywhere. They got what what's the guy who's just hitting everything now, Max Edmund Tommy Edmund Tommy Edmund You need one over 800 in the NLCS. That's crazy And I feel like the Dodgers too like I don't still even Understand what the Dodgers rotation is because they just have so many bullpen arms that are just always warming up and ready to mow people down. I think they just kind of go off vibes and then they're like, we trust our lineup to get more runs. So we'll just kind of tread water for a while.

Otani, do you see that Otani is 18 of 23 with runners in scoring position? It's insane. Like that's, that's. Well they show it every time. It's crazy though. That's a, that's it every time. It's crazy though. That's a that's a crazy stat Yeah, and he stinks leading off he stinks leading off and but the Dodgers are an absolute wagon and they're growing up against the Yankees Yankees Dodgers, I know there's people who are probably upset About it. I don't I mean it's gonna be a good World Series like the two best teams Yeah

I think if it's not a team that you're rooting for in the World Series You want to have the two best teams with the two most explosive lineups It's gonna be fun a couple things that have been funny that I've noticed one is just purely anecdotal So I think most Yankee fans don't feel this way But I was doing my fantasy corner this morning and a Yankee fan was like Why are people? So bitter about the Yankees making the World Series and I was just like, are you actually asking me that question?

You guys haven't been here long enough that you don't realize it? The Cowboys and the Yankees are just, everyone just grows up hating them. That's definitely like an 18 year old that asks. Yeah, they're called the evil empire for a reason. Well they haven't been by really one shit. Right, so that's a new Yankees fan, but that's just, you just hate them because they always spend the most money, that's a new Yankees fan, but that's just that's just you just hate them because they always spend the most money That's just what you do and I don't really like I don't hate the Yankees, but it's like yeah, of course

They spend the most money I actually like some of the guys on the Yankees But it was a crazy question to just have posed to me and the other one was everyone And this happens with every sport but being like I'm gonna say something nice about the Yankees being like the Yankees had the easiest path in the history of sports. Hey, that's why you play a regular season. The Yankees got the one seed, the Astros started incredibly slow and the one team that can beat the Yankees seems like every year the Astros, they started incredibly slow, had a scratch and claw to be a wild card team. When you're a wild card

team, anything can happen. You can lose in the first round. And then the AL central is a bunch of teams that were good, but they also beat the fuck out of the white Sox all year. So this is like, this is why you play regular season. Yeah. And also just enjoy the fucking world series between the two best lineups in sports. Correct. It's going to be a lot of home runs and we're going to be happier for having watched one Soto that at bat last night was one of the coolest things I've ever seen he was so locked in and He essentially said I'm just gonna foul off every pitch until you throw me a fastball and then I'm gonna hit the fastball

400 feet. Yeah, then the but also like shake my head after every yeah, he was like You could tell he was just locked. I've never seen a batter more locked in. He didn't take eye contact off of the pitcher the entire time. First pitch missed the zone by like, I don't know, three inches. And he just stared through the pitcher's soul and you knew, okay, one soda is going to do his one soda thing. It's not going to be fair. And then the one fastball that he got was supposed to be above the zone. And then he missed that by like six inches down at the top of the zone and then Soto turned on it and it was just

a moon shot. See, I yeah, that's the thing is with these Yankees, like I don't even hate the players on the Yankees. They're not even that hateable. It's just I mean, I like Juan Soto. I always say I love Rizzo like Rizzo. The catchers catchers got a great look. I I'll say it. This is crazy. I'm sure I like Giancarlo because he's just like he's a fucking he looks like the Incredible Hulk and he just gets up and just gets a Piece of the ball. How do you feel about 500 yards? How do you feel about Aaron judge Aaron judge? I'm kind of hit or miss I Aaron judge I I Will absolutely 100% say that he is not a true Yankee if he doesn't

win a World Series. Well, that's a fact. Not a World Series. I think the only guy I really don't like is I don't like Garrett Cole. And I think it's just because I don't like his shaven face and something about his vibe. Yeah, he kind of sacrificed who he was to become a Yankee. And he always wanted to be a Yankee. There was that famous, like, picture of him at the World Series in like 2001 or something yeah, well also

Basically any kid that grew up in that era at some point was a Yankee fan because we're winning everything it was 2009 Yeah, it might have been oh no Garacle is a little older though. Yeah, but you might be right um Garacle is 34 So yeah, no you yeah, it was probably 2001. Yeah, he's a fan of those teams. What? He was like nine years old. He's five years younger than me and big cat. Yeah. Um, yeah. Juan Soto. Yeah. So like, but it just, and I don't really like the Dodgers either because they spend a lot of money too, but that's also baseball. Like I don't really, it is what it is. Like, would it be fun if there was some scrappy? We had that last year. Well, I guess the ranger spent a lot of money money But the diamond backs. Yeah, guess what you say that you want the young scrappy teams

And then you don't watch the World Series this World Series is going to fucking rock. Let's talk. Let's talk best Shohei Otani verse Aaron judge and I still don't know I Don't know how a pitcher deals with the Yankees lineup the Soto judge John Carlo like Three in a row is just it's insane if I was a manager I would just I would do it all based on lefty verse lefty righty verse righty. They were saying last night They're like you should watch what you should walk Juan Soto. It's like to fray and judge But then the Dodgers have a yeah, honey bets. Yeah, and Freddie Freeman. Yeah, it's crazy. It's it's going to be awesome I'm I'm I know people will hate on this world series. I wish it was a subway series

just for our own personal content at bar stool, but this is going to be awesome. And it also feels like I'll say this too. It feels like these two teams have been circling each other for like the last five years and we finally get it. You know what I mean? Because the Dodgers have won a world series. The Yankees have gone to a bunch of ALCSs. You feel like we finally get what we've all wanted is having this matchup. So I'm looking at the ratings because that's what we truly care about.

Yeah. Last year, 9.08 million average. Okay. I'm predicting 14 million. Whoa. Average for this one. Whoa. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about ratings. Let's talk about ratings. Talk about ratings, baby. We also, I should say, the guardians as sad as they went out. That was one of the most exciting five game series of all time. Yeah. I mean, it had some thrillers. What? How many did to the last two games went to extras?

Like it was, we had walk-offs. It felt like every game lead changes was a lead change late. Um, and class a, I don't know what I, I was a series. Yeah. He was the series. You guys see the, uh, there was the clip of his catcher going around from earlier this year. No. His catcher did an interview and he said that he thought that Clausay was the best pitcher of all time, better than Mariano Rivera.

I want my catcher saying that. Yeah, but I think, I think what he ended up giving up six earned runs in these playoffs. I think Mariano Rivera gave up like 11 during runs in his entire career Yeah, the playoffs. Yeah That's it's a bad one. It's a bad one. That's a rider die catcher. It's a rider die catcher But yeah, I'm excited for this world series. I think it's gonna be a great world series. I think it's gonna be awesome Yeah, I want to go seven. It's been a great playoffs It's been a great fucking playoffs and the Mets were that was a magical ride Mets

Maybe you'll get the one thing that's very funny that's going on right now is just Mets fans being like well We're gonna get Juan Soto. Yeah, it's pissing off Yankees fans so bad So what do you think Juan Soto's contract is gonna be a billion dollars? You think it's gonna be more than show haze I could be I don't know I don't know I just said a billion dollars, but I wouldn't be shocked if they were like, Juan Soto signs for 12 years a billion dollars. I mean, it's Scott Boris.

So Scott Boris is going to... He will get the most money possible for Juan Soto. And he's still 25. He's 25. He'll make a billion. I think he's gonna get... Oh yeah, for sure. I think he's gonna beat Shohei's contract.

Shohei's contract, to remind you, was 10 years, 700 I think he's gonna beat Shohei's contract. Shohei's contract to remind you was 10 years, 700 million won't be. He won't be. I don't think it'll be show is because Shohei member is still a pitcher. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But what do you think it's gonna be? 10 year? I mean, we'll be 10 years, 600 million. It'll be over 500. Yeah. Even it depends because you can give them so many years like that's that's a difference like Shohei is gonna get ten Shohei only only got ten years like Soto could legit it could get close to like 13 yeah, what did Bryce get how many years of Bryce? Yeah 13 yeah, so you could do that. I've got an idea Bryce harbour got 13 years 330 million

Honestly such a bargain. Yeah, it's a such an insane steal Yeah, so so he so he could get Soto could get like 13 years 750 million I Didn't know he won't get that much I think it's because when Shohei sound with the Dodgers Some people were saying like they might not even use him as a pitcher But here's the thing max that you're forgetting He is show hey was never real or show it felt like was never really gonna go to New York

It felt like he was gonna stay in LA and I know that there was LA still had to offer him a ton of money Soto it feels like loves New York and it's going to be a literal bidding war between the Mets and the Yankees. So he's got the two, the two big dogs just, they're going to have to get in a bidding war. But I don't know that he has any loyalty to the city of New York. I feel like he seems like he's, I'm sure he's enjoying his time there than the world series, but I think that Soto through Boris is strictly a like highest bitter guy So that could be the Yankees could very much a good possibility is the Mets

But then I mean, I don't want to say that the Nationals were getting full, but they might there's no but they might Like you can justify show Hayes contract the next biggest contract is 426 million at 12 years right but is a 24 he's 20 you know he's gonna be but it's still is gonna be 26 in like two days like Juan Soto might be the best baseball player of all time trout signed that at 27 so let's say but that was what how many years ago six years ago i guess but Mookie just signed this 365 for 12 yeah seven Mookie Betts is not I'm saying over 500 I don't think I'll get six. Okay, we'll make a bet

loser has to get a one soda tattoo I Got a Yankees or Mets Loser owes Loser Loser owes the winner One tenth of one soda's contract oh either way I'm pumped for the for the world series it's gonna be great it's gonna be fucking great and we get to also get stories from the reporters having to travel coast to coast yeah thoughts and prayers thoughts and prayers the opposite of a subway series yeah memes any last thoughts on the Mets before we finish up with who's back of the week. It was a fun season I really did think the Rizler was gonna come through for us. I know

Everything lined up but it was good season when we lost to the better team If they hopefully they win it cuz I fucking hate the Yankees. Yeah And congrats max and congrats max you were very happy Yeah, and now I'm really sorry that we don't get to watch any more Mets games, but there's always next year I guess Memes is gonna fucking kill one of us Like honestly you might have to stand down and not win this game. Yeah, just don't win don't win I'm just as excited for that game the more the more that I think about it means Are you more broken up about the Jets?

Are you more broken up about the Mets because I feel like somebody asked me that last week. They're like, oh, how do you rank it? It's like if they're if they're in it. I'm in it like I don't care who's playing I'm in New York Liberty, whatever like I'm a fan. Mm-hmm. That's it. There's no ranking but jet. No, it's jets You're definitely You just said like the Mets next season it sounds like there's some optimism if you're a Jets fan or a Mets fan Yeah, there's always optimism with the Mets because they're always capable of making this run the Jets just no, No, but it's different this year, isn't it? It's like this is the team that wasn't supposed to do it and the magical run that you guys won. I feel like most Mets fans... Yeah, it was like 2015. Mets fans are...

That was only Daniel Murphy. Obviously bummed out about losing, but at the same time they're like we have a good core team that we can build around. Oh, yeah, there's so much hope. We need... We need Jayden Daniels to play and we need the Patriots to beat the Jets And I think we might have the most listen to pardon my take we're without a guess What do you think the formula is for the for the commander's Bears game to get the most ratings? It's guys. It's gotta be one one has a perfect passer rating and the other throws five interceptions

We just need one low out is a scenario either way one of you to walk away with thinking you have a better quarterback That's it. Yes one games not gonna change my opinion. No it will oh That thought will seep into your head. It won't one of you. I guarantee you won't but the stakes are the Eagles playing We play the Bengals. All right So you need to get baby the Eagles to get blown out or the Patriots to beat the Jets and then one of our quarterbacks to be awful while the other one's incredible. That will be the most listened to part of my take episode without a guest ever. Hear me out. Commander's Bears, 3-0, 5 interceptions amongst the two quarterbacks, just terrible performances

all around. I hate this. Patriots, 40 40 piece the Jets Drake may five touchdowns perfect passer reading oh yeah that's that's the formula Jalen Hurts throws four interceptions yep well no but then it's the one two three yeah who are the the Eagles are playing the Bengals I think regardless no one cares about the Eagles next week ah no if you get blown out we'll we'll make sure that that gets talked about. Sirianni fired and Big Dom promoted to head coach. Yeah Sirianni cries at midfield and they have to take him out on a stretcher because he's crying. But it's a road like. What do you mean. Like he's not good he doesn't have to worry about like the fans. Hanks is sick fuck for thinking

yeah he is. You really really are you asked the question What is the formula and I gave you the formula? I gave you the answer I don't think that's right you asked the question I gave you the correct answer and now you're giving me a X on my test cuz I don't like the answer But it's right cuz it makes me feel bad. He's thinking about the future of this show. I think we're ready That's what's all I think about is ratings. He's been a good executive producer over there Like it I like it a lot they don't do anything oh I got one other that one now I'll throw in one other thing. I'm not gonna throw in the other thing no throw throw them in there

76ers play earlier in that day Yeah, who cares we don't root for entries. Big cat. Oh, no, no, no. If we're just trying to, if we're trying to figure out what the most ratings could possibly be. No, no one will care. No one will care. If Joel and B plays and then doesn't play again this year, October, Sunday basketball is not gonna get the people like Jade everyone wants Jayden and Caleb and Drake made it go off I agree and Drake made it go off Every AWL punish. Yeah, you should be punished. You should be punished. I already said I give him my rib. It's your fault if Jayden doesn't play I already said I'd give him my ribs. It's your fault if Jayden doesn't play. Hank's like, yeah, if you're an AWL sitting out there, you're just hoping that Jayden plays

and the Drake may goes off. That's all you're thinking about. He's going to play. I'm going to report right now. Jayden Daniels. Jayden Daniels is going to play. Can I tweet it? Yeah. All right. Yeah. I'm going to tweet it right now. Are you going to credit? Yeah. I'm gonna tweet it right now. Are you gonna credit? Yeah, I'm gonna say PFT is just reported on part of my take that Jane Daniels will be playing Because he knows how much this means to us as a podcast. Yeah Okay. Yeah, and I think that he that thought has gone through his mind. I should DM his mom to see

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Jaden knows how important this is to our show. Please credit PFT commenter and reported on part of my take the Jaden Daniels will play next Sunday against the Bears because Jaden knows how Important this is to our show. Yep, please credit PFT commenter and also ask pardon my memes for a call of duty code He's giving them away if you tweet at him. Okay, that's good. I think that covered everything. Yeah, I got it all Yeah, did you add anything about Drake man? I did not shit I forgot about Drake may do add a add a thread also Hank wants to clear that most also Other you can just say also just so everyone's on the same page. We all We all have to show once it reported that Everyone is thinking about Drake may first and foremost big time doing going off

I'm thinking about Drake may going off right now Big time. Going off. I'm thinking about Drake May going off right now. It would be great though, seeing just the Patriots destroy the Jets. Drake May. Meep's just making noises. Mic off. Three touchdowns. And I'm not even rooting against the Jets.

I want to make this very clear. I got no ill will towards the Jets. But I do love seeing- You hate the Jets. You're a flio commenter! You hate the Jets! What do you think I said to Florio? I told him to suck my dick. Yeah, but you hate the Jets. I don't hate the Jets. I have no animosity towards the Jets. The amount of times Memes talks about how much you hate the Jets while his mic's off back here, it's the whole show.

Is it the whole show? I hate the Jets. You think I hate the Jets? You do too many insult stats. Well, there's a a lot of them I think you hate the Jets I don't hate the jet Drake may can't go off I promise you I don't hate the jet okay I've updated it I said also Henny's once it reported that he thinks a double L's are thinking about Drake may quote unquote going off against the Jets more than the Bears commanders game tune into a great PMT tomorrow you can hear this

reporting in real time feels good number one Drake may going off number two Jaden Daniels and Cale Williams playing against children number three no injuries in the Sixers game number four Eagles Nick Sirianni having a mental breakdown do you think we maybe we get more rate what if the lighthouse fell over this is the biggest Sunday One other big man, there's one other there's one other big X Factor. Oh, no, there's a bye What Jamis? Oh? Is Jamis playing next week's out that would this will be the biggest Sunday of our lives James beating the Ravens. Oh my god

Biggest Sunday of our lives. I'll also the Ravens. Oh my God, this is the biggest Sunday of our lives. I'll also be in Madison on Sunday for Penn State, for Penn State Wisconsin. No one gives a fuck about Penn State Wisconsin, Max. Flacco gets in. That's already happened though. Yeah, but he could do it again. Wow, this is gonna be the biggest Sunday of our lives.

And your Cowboys play Sunday night. It's on Sunday Night Football. Hell, yeah right after drink me goes off all right who's back of the week? Let's finish it up my who's back of the week. I got a couple first one is Shaw la Claw Charles leclerc Charles leclerc f1 he is the United States Grand Prix 2024 champion yeah hell yes he won the Austin Austin race. Oh yeah. I saw that race. He won the Austin race. I had it on. We had it on in the in the gambling cave in the afternoon on one of the screens. Fun to watch a little F1. I've been watching drive to survive. We almost went to the Vegas race last year. PFT I wish we had gone and I wish I was going this year. That's happening coming up in a couple a couple weeks Oh, right It's back in Vegas this year. They're running it through the strip this time They have like Stan set up in the Bellagio fountain. It looks sick. Oh, that's awesome So everyone's back Charlotte Claire United States United States Grand Prix champion. When is the Vegas one? Couple weeks, I think November. Nice. I'm pumped.

It's actually definitely November. I just don't know exactly. You're going to have to give us a rundown on it. I want a full breakdown. Yeah. My other is back. PFT is you. I don't know how you invaded my algorithm.

Yeah. But you playing free bird, there's like a thousand videos. Oh yeah. I've seen them too. Yeah. Yeah. There's like a thousand videos of accounts that just post you playing freebird it's cool well that's but I think I saw one and I've seen 20 this weekend are you talking about on x.com the everything on tik tok and it's everything at what's that means you made my feed too oh cool

you have like I've seen you a bunch yeah like, it was aggregators doing it, right? Yeah, it's like PFT Yeah, then everyone in the comments like this guy should do a podcast wait Hey, hang on. Hang on. So it's not like Barstool. No, no, it's random. It's random accounts. They're getting lots of like Yeah, saying just like yeah, how much did you pay him? I have no this is Like Robbie's feed no, no, it's like random. It's it's a clip aggregator of Max's rates like one of these accounts is post random clips. But it's just like PFT plays free bird. I think I liked one and then I've seen legitimately 100 I should retire. I'm going to retire from playing free bird. Go out on top. I can't find it. it. But yeah, you're all over my feet.

Congrats. Love that. Sweet. Thank you. Thanks for bringing that across my desk. My Who's Back the Week is going to be kicking battles. Yeah. So there's a couple programs out there that are lacking, shall we say, at the college space in the field goal kicking department. I think I'm going to retire from playing guitar. I'm going to retire from playing free bird.

And I think I'm going to train because Big Cat texted me over the weekend. Can I say the schools that I might be working with? Yeah, of course. Because there's a couple out there, but Arizona State is apparently holding open tryouts on Monday. Yeah. Kenny Dillingham, who's a friend, uh, said after the game that our kick kick, our kick kickers are so bad, we need to hold open tryouts. And I was like, shit.

So I hit him up. Um, I think I've got a grad year. Yeah. So I would love to get a graduate degree from Arizona State. He actually is trying to find a kicker like right away so we probably can't do it fast enough to get you enrolled but I've gotten verbal confirmation from him that you will get a tryout in the offseason and then if you get if you make it then we'll just get you in school. Okay so I I'm gonna try to work the leg back up to I think I can get to 44 yards if I give myself

two months of training. Yeah. but now I got something to work for Yeah, Hank dunking Me kicking a 44 yard field goal. We might have to go to Arizona. What's less likely? Does Arizona have golf I don't think so might have to go to Arizona shit shit What's uh What's your other who's back that's my who's back. Oh, cuz I'll just one I'll just do. Yeah, my who's back is not Hank, because I got some bad news to report. He I think the word was

I'm cooked. That's just doing private conversations. Well, that's fine. It's Hank. Keep that in mind. Well no, I mean, I don't have to say it. I didn't say what you're cooked about. No, let it let it rip. No, it's fine. Well, he brought, he brought up the thing that the, the dunking verse kicking and you were like, I don't really know. How's the Duncan going? I need to lose some weight. Where are you at? We, the people need like the people have interest. You've gone zero dark 30 on us. I'm going to, there will be interest. I'm the last month will be hype. I'm just, I don't want to also like create interest on something. I know I can't do. Do you think you can't do it?

I'm still, I still think I could do it. What do you owe us if you can't do it? $4,000 each. Okay, nice. I'll let you get out of it right now. For $3,000 to me. No. Okay. That was a good deal. Bad finance is good. I want to do it. I'm training. I know you want to I'll let I want to do a lot of think I'll let you get out of it for zero dollars We can wipe the slate clean if you agree not to play golf No, wait now This week, but okay, we're gonna say max December comes around and you Can't dunk, but you're kind of close What will you continue to? Yeah, will you give up? Oh, yeah, that's basically what I'm asking

We'll see if I'm if I'm if I'm yeah, I'll probably try and keep doing it Just so even if even if I lose the money, I would like to be able to you know, prove my point So how close you right now? I? still need like five inches. I'm 180 pounds. I was like 171 pounds in July so I need to lose some weight. Basically it was... You look good though. I know but imagine jumping with a 10 pound, how much more you could jump if you didn't have a 10 pound weight on your chest yeah is that where I imagine all the time hmm it's on your chest well no like I'm just saying like hypothetically why don't you come start playing ball with us on Fridays I will yeah get a little

sweat in but we played a game we played a game to 11 on Friday that took us about 35 minutes I think you can do it so bad don't give up the dream. Don't give up. I'm not giving up. Also, my might be cooked, but I'm not giving up my real who's back because we're just trying to, you know, we want people to get, I'll just say it since you had to say a story. No, no, I'm not giving up. I don't care. Uh, but I was working out trainer like he, he kind of just brought out the vertical leap thing when I wasn't care. But I was working out, trainer, like he kind of just brought out the vertical leap thing when I wasn't ready for it. Like I was like, I don't, whoa, what are we doing here?

And he's like, all right, let's see. And it was not as much progress. I liked, you know, blindly thinking that I'm making good progress. You should have never jumped. So when we jumped and it wasn't as, it was still progress, but not as much progress as I had hoped for, I was like, fuck that. And then I came and saw you right after So that you saw me in in my darkest time that was that's like my that's like every diet that I've ever gone on

Where it's like the first step on the scale first two weeks are awesome Yeah, the first two weeks are awesome because you lose a lot of water weight And then the third week you step on the scale and you're like fuck why'd I do that? Other things that we should bring up because it is a good way to get people excited about videos that are coming up because I'm sure we'll have a big video stream for the, for the dunk off. Uh, we're just not close. Like what are we going to do? We still have to do it. Well, and also you still get the shots. We're doing that December 22nd, by the way, we can put the date on it. But you also get to shoot. That's never going to happen. But you still get a chance. You still should probably start shooting. Yeah. You still get a chance. We're still working on Max pitching. So hopefully we'll have I don't know in the next month

or so that video. When is our golf video coming out with Bob does sports. Do we have a date on that. I got to talk to them and then Hank is also gearing up for his stream so we so you're gonna do the nine darter video soon we're gonna have the baseball video soon and he's gonna talk I want you to shoot I think you're gonna be I think you might get crazy and just now is she allowed to he's allowed to try to dunk fail and then try to attempt the shots does he have to declare I failed at dunking I'm try to attempt the shot shot because you have to declare I have failed at dunking I'm going to do the shot shot instead. I want to see both.

I want to see both. For sure. For sure, for sure. I will, I can start posting. I have been doing a little bit of testing and I have thought about doing this as like a for social but the way I'm going to dunk, even if I am able to do it, it's going to piss people off because I'm basically going to Have a super inflated ball on the road so that it bounces off the ground. I basically need to perfect

Bouncing a ball so that it lays we bounces and lands in the hoop yeah, and I like to guide it on the way down But I will start posting some of the videos of me practicing that because like if you if you see the final Form of the dunk it will be like the I'm so excited dunk, but I it will be a technical dunk because but whatever We have so excited. I have to get I have to get really like that part of it is really not easy How many chances do you get at it? Yeah till January 1st yeah, cuz he could probably only get up that high with his first like 10 jumps Yeah, right, so I need to get I need to spend the next like How inflated no no no fuck up no no I'm on Hank's side. No January 1st I said I could dunk a basketball white summer first on your January 1st Yeah

He gets as many chances he wants if he wants to just go live and just be like I could say like a hundred Chances, but if we're doing a stream there has to be an end no no no January first stop saying defense ever January first wait is it January 1st or December 31st? It's New Year's New Year's But Friday the 22nd we're going on break like I'm not doing it over break so it's Friday the 22nd I can't wait whatever you guys are doing so annoying so I'm just saying as like a you know he's scared of he's scared of Drake May going off. I want Drake May to go off. I'm saying this as like a stream. It's going to be weird that like we're just watching this.

Doesn't matter. I'm with Hank. He gets him. Also, PFT is right. I get unlimited attempts. I will only be able to do it within like 10. I am now. Think about the jumps, Max. Once he jumps 10 times as high as he can. In theory, I get unlimited. Yes, it's limited I'm very excited about this super inflated ball Little throw that does it have to be the regulation size. Yes, it does. Yes. It does cannot be a women's ball

No, how inflated are you? Enough to bounce and Basically to the point of it breaking I need it to be like just dropping it Why does the inflation matter so it counts is all the way up like I've tried it with the balls we have here They're not he's gonna. He's basically has to have to has to perfectly coordinate a ball Bouncing on the ground going all the way in and he just gets up right at the last second and just places up right at the last second and just places it. I'm so excited for this. That's hard. I know. That might be harder than dunking. I know. Oh man. But to Hank's point, you're probably not going to jump every single time you attempt to throw the ball up because you're

going to have a lot of misses. Do you want want would you like me to try to To get no This is the thing that like as I'm doing the training I I can do a million of those a day You know what he should do that I have time to do you should get the shooting gun You do a million of those what you get you should get the shooting gun dialed in Oh, yeah at the angle so it shoots the pass out and lands perfectly. Oh Not a bad idea. That's a really good. Yeah, that's a really good idea Yeah, that's a good idea I don't know I know that you talked to me about Re-flooring the basketball court because it we've been here for a year now waxing it waxing it and you wanted to do around Thanksgiving was there

Was there anything to do with that? Maybe putting like spring springs in it, you know, how the boards? No, I just I just liked in high school like when you came back. Yeah, I just realized the other day I was like, oh you wanted to know that's the Floor redone. I also think maybe all of a sudden it's just be, it's a trampoline. There should be a witness around Hank when he's in the gym just in case he tries to lower the rims. Well, I mean, I tried. You can't, we can't trust tree trust tree trust tree.

They asked us when we moved in and we said, let's not give ourselves the option to lower it. I mean, like we said that to not give ourselves the option to lower it mean like We said that to Pete and then I asked Pete. I was like, hey, can we lower the room? He's like you told us not to like build this in us Trust tree. I also asked Pete Because my whole plan was to lower the rims by like a quarter inch Every single month until Hank thought he could dunk and then have him dunk and be like haha you fucking sucker they're not regulation so we both asked Pete for different reasons and then you were trying to cheat and I was trying to

cheat you well I was trying to practice Steven Jackson yeah I don't I was trying to fuck you over and have you dunk on a nine foot like nine inch rim and then like celebrate and I'd be like haha Normandale and just that would have been awesome I've been funny but yeah we couldn't do it we're idiots for not letting why did we do that yeah we're so stupid god damn it why not he was like you guys said not it would have been great to just run full court. Yeah, I think that was well I think we were trying to avoid breaking the bass board and then injuries and everything once once you do an eight foot rim

We never would well never yeah, and it would have got destroyed. Yeah Okay, great show boys very fun numbers three ten eleven five seventeen 3 10 11 5

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