Pardon My Take - NFL Week 8 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Kyle Shanahan's New Toy, Are The Vikings Frauds? Plus World Series

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

Week 8 of the NFL. We start with fastest 2 minutes then recap every game. (00:02:20-00:08:46) Broncos 21, Jaguars 17 (00:14:25-00:25:51) Patriots 22, Jets 17 (00:25:51-00:39:36) Vikings 34, Cardinals 26 (00:39:36-00:50:04) Dolphins 31, Lions 27 (00:50:04-00:55:59) Cowboys 49, Bears 29 (00:55:59-01:04:26) Falcons 37, Panthers 34 (01:04:26-01:09:40) Saints 24, Raiders 0 (01:09:40-01:18:59) Eagles 35, Steeler 13 (01:18:59-01:29:14) Titans 17, Texans 10 (01:29:14-01:36:58) Commanders 17, Colts 16 (01:36:58-01:47:10) Seahawks 27, Giants 13 (01:47:10-01:57:35) 49ers 31, Rams 14 (01:57:35-02:07:25) Football guy of the week (02:07:25-02:13:58) and who's back of the week (02:13:58-02:46:11).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, week eight in the NFL, we're gonna recap it, fast as two minutes. We're gonna talk about every game. We're watching Sunday Night Football right now.

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Today is Monday, October 31st, Halloween. Week eight. Spooky, half-el-ree-gap. Woo! There are lots of tricks and there are lots of tricks. Check that candy for medals. We start across the pond where the game was on early because England can't hang on to one PM.

Travis at TN Crumpets proved that not all Clemson first round picks in the 2021 draft or bust as he rushed all over the Broncos, Guinness stout defense. That's Irish boom. Same thing, Teege. It might as well have been a home game for DUI Haver Melvin Gordon, who's used to driving on the wrong side of the road.

And despite what the TV might say, the yellow line is official when driving. Mr. Unlimited proved that God is back on his side with a game-winning drive to win the game and they're saying maybe Nathaniel can hack it. Broncos 21, Jaguar 17. To the mental lands where back state side in New Jersey for Patriots vs. Jets, a game that would have gone down

a whole lot differently if Mark Wahlberg was there. Remandre the Giant Stevenson crushed the Jets defense like they were 12 ounce cans of beer. It's been one game with James 10 Robinson playing for injured Breeze Hall and Jets fans are already saying, I don't want to be here anymore. I think you should leave.

Last time the Jets beat the Patriots, Zach Wilson was in high school and his girlfriend was only 45. Patriots 22, the Jets 17. To Detroit where Jamal of America Williams had the roller coaster going up for the Lions in the first half with a pair of scores. Alec worth his weight in gold scored.

Jimmy two or two times through a touchdown to Waddle. Touchdown to Waddle and Tyreek Henry Hill flashed his great Lufthansa's going for 188 yards in the wind. And even though the Lions ownership went to Billy Bats for Dan Campbell, he could end up in a trunk being driven out of town if the losses keep stacking up.

Dolphins 31, Lions 27. What, what, what? Some spread, some spread. In Minnesota, where all the Ulster boys at the Pupmobile know that the Cardinals love Road Dome. It's a black Sabbath for Cardinals fans as KJ Ozzy Osbourne said, mama I'm coming home to pay dirt

as Kirk Cousins was Sharon the Rock. Deandre the Giant Hopkins was catching touchdown passes with one hand like there were 12 ounce cans of beer. Vikings 34, the Cardinals 26. In Atlanta where PJ Paul Walker brought the Panthers back fast and furious only to crash and burn as his kicker Eddie DiNero looked like he was broke.

In a touching tribute to Halloween, DJ Moore impersonated Ichabod Crane after scoring the game, tying touchdown, losing his head and the game. And if you wanna hear something extra spooky teach, this October, we're done with October. The Atlanta Falcons are in first place. The Falcons 37, Panthers 34.

Up to the Battle of Pennsylvania where Ray J. Brown kept getting behind the rear of the defense making the Steelers look like a car crash again. The Steelers lone highlight came in the first quarter as, hey, wait a second, what brother is that? It's Derek Boom. Well then, let me be the first to congratulate

our producer Hank Lockwood on cashing his bet from last January. After a short 15 years, it seems as though the flash of the pan, Mike Tom Lynn Sanity has run its course. The Eagles 35, the Steelers 13. In the afternoon slate, we head out west where quarterback Christian McCaffrey threw a touchdown

as wide receiver Christian McCaffrey caught a touchdown and running back Christian McCaffrey ran for a touchdown. Oh, some game. As the Niners silenced the Rams, Ross Dwelley Kapowski looked hot in the Niners offense as Sean McVay was seen on the sidelines screaming, I'm so excited, I'm so excited, I'm so scared. To face Kyle Shad ahead again.

Niners 31, Rams 14. We go back east to Indianapolis. Ruth was closed by the way, teach. Where the commanders were pretending they were the Broncos having a quarterback do high-neaky things on the way to a victory as Sam hold that Ellinger was welcomed to the NFL. Terry Bradshaw McClourn isn't dead yet, Mike Florio,

as the receiver went for 113 yards. Jim, or say something I'm giving up on, you might be done with Frank Wright as it's a great big world out there full of coaches that don't suck. Commander 17, the Colts 16. Standing on the corner, James Winston down in Nola, such a fine sight to watch.

It's a goose egg, my lord. It's time to cut the cord. Josh got beat by a firecrotch. Come on Raiders, you're worse than the Gators. And the only bull you'll be invited to is the one the barber used during the haircut that he gives for Mark Davis. Davis, Saints 24, the Raiders zero.

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We're watching the fourth quarter of the Packers' bills. It is erotic for me. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Yes, I know the bills still have to cover the spread, but Josh fucking Allen, man. And he is, it's just nice to be able to watch the Packers getting embarrassed on Sunday Night Football for a change. Change of pace.

Josh is really good at running people over. And then after they've already been run over, trying to fight them on their way up. Yeah. He doesn't play like a quarterback. I would like to see Josh Allen play 5% more like a quarterback in terms of taking care of himself when they have double digit leads only.

Nah, I love, I mean, he's just, he is. I know he'll never do it. Is he the most, it's hard because in the NFL, because football is obviously so popular and it's hard to like root for another quarterback. But Josh Allen, it feels like, has the highest approval rating of any team that isn't your team.

So this is kind of where us living on the internet, that might be true. It skews our perception about things because I saw a study that came out that actually addresses this very question. Oh, really? And the number one most like player is Kirk Cousins. Oh.

And number two. Get out of here. No, no, no, he's, sorry, he's number two. Number one, Russell Wilson. Okay, so this study doesn't make sense. That shows you how our brains are warped. And hopefully if you're listening to this, your brain is also warped.

Maybe by us whose brains are in turn warped by the internet. That's a study that's not real football. That's people who just casually watch football every now and then. Like if you watch Josh Allen, and I'm not even talking about like knowing his personality, just the way he plays the game, like running people over,

throwing absolute rockets downfield, smiling through it all. He had one play where he just ran it like 15 yards. Oh, that's a shame. The Packers got stuffed on fourth to one. And he ran it out of bounds and then he just went, I know this is very trivial, but he just went along the sideline

and started high-fiving all the fans. I don't know. You know what? Let me rephrase it. I don't think there is a closer connection quarterback to city right now than Josh, what Josh Allen has going on in Buffalo. That's probably true.

That's all right. So that would be my premise that I'll roll with. I could hear an argument for obviously Patrick Mahomes. Brady in New England would have been the answer for a long time. Like, but what other city? The thing with Mahomes is that he's got the wife and brother thing.

There's like a little bit of division there. Which we'll never bash him for, because we love Patrick Mahomes. No, I know, I'm saying that like in terms of the city, like there's people in Kansas City who roast Patrick Mahomes' brother, which I'm sure makes Patrick Mahomes in turn be like, that's kind of fucked up.

That's my brother. I think they still love him though. Yeah, they do. Of course, but I'm saying there's zero, there's nothing in Josh Allen's like negative category that fans would look at. I would also, I would put Baltimore and Lamar up there. Yeah, but they've got a pretty close relationship.

But right now. He's a Flacco. Some about Flacco. Some about Flacco, where he throws that spiral? Right now, I would say it's not 100, 100 approval rating just because he isn't signed to a long-term deal. I think, I think. No, all fans want him.

I think that there's a good amount of Ravens fans that if Lamar was not re-signed by the team for whatever, they would take like a leave of absence. Yeah, no. From cheering for the Ravens for like up to a year until they got a good quarterback again. He definitely has a connection with a city that's high up there.

But Josh Allen, I, yeah, I don't think, I don't think there's anyone right now. I think if you're a real football fan, you can't watch Josh Allen play and be like, I don't care for him. Yeah, right. Russell Wilson, Broncos country. Broncos, Russell Wilson, that's, yeah.

We should do the inverse. Yeah, what's the least approval rating? Probably Russell Wilson. I feel like Kyler is wearing thin in Arizona right now. I'm gonna say this and this might be biased, but I do think there are a lot of Packers fans that are not super pumped about the way the Packers are playing.

Maybe little by Rodgers. Maybe a little. And Rodgers having the amount of money that he has and like blaming everyone else besides himself. Based on the tailgate situation, I feel like Cleveland Brown's fans really love D'Shaun. That's true. That's true.

Yeah, I think it's Josh assignment. Yeah, it is Josh assignment. So that's the best way to, because you're right. Like there is a lot of people out there that watch football and maybe aren't like, you know, tuned into what the bills are doing. And they're like, oh, this Kirk Cousins guy seems like a really nice guy.

Josh Allen though, his connection with the city is better than any connection currently, a quarterback to city. Those are people who are casual fans who know most of their NFL players based off insurance commercials. Right, right. So yeah, so they're like this Patrick Mahomes.

No, Patrick Mahomes, does he do insurance commercials? Yeah, he does state football. Yeah, he does. They're like, yeah, we love Chris Paul and Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers. Okay, so we will finish talking about this game when this game goes final. Josh Allen just ripped another cannon down the,

down the sideline, didn't incomplete, but I will update the final one. I actually, I would sit and just watch Josh Allen just throw balls. Yeah. They don't even need to be people on the field with him. It can just be him dropping back and just throw the ball 70 yards.

Yeah, just on repeat. I would watch them. And listen, if you're a Packers fan and you're going through it right now, hit up your boy on Twitter. I've watched some bad Sunday night football games. I'm here to, you can cry on my shoulder because Rodgers is crying to all the defense and his own.

No one likes him in this stadium. His entire team, the other team, all the fans. He's down bad, but let's get into some games. Let's recap every game. We got some great games to talk about. And of course we're going to start with the Lunder. Broncos 21, Jaguar 17. I half tuned into this game

and I'm very happy that I was half tuning in. Like I watched a portions and then I would have to go do some stuff. And it felt like every time I tuned in, it was just an interception and people being upset with either Trevor Lawrence or Russell Wilson. But Russell Wilson does get the job done with the big drive to win the game.

And Trevor Lawrence is now back officially into the bus category. Yeah, in the words of Skip Bayless, we were wrong about being wrong about Trevor Lawrence. Correct. In other words, we were initially right. We should never have gotten off that take. Here's a fun little stat courtesy

of our good friend, Uncle Chaps. Fun Jaguar stats of the week. Fun Jaguar stat of the week, number one. The Jaguars are 0 and 11 when Trevor Lawrence throws an interception. Any interception, 0 and 11. Here's maybe the most vindicating stat for us, Big Cat. Trevor Lawrence has the worst winning percentage

of all number one picks through 25 games. That's tough. Bus, bus. And he looks like the guy from The Dragon Show. The craziest, yeah, he does. The craziest part about watching Trevor Lawrence. Fuck, was that Amen? That's the dude where, when Trevor Lawrence

showed up to England, he should have seen that Russ's dragon was bigger and then just got to fuck off the island, right? Let's not spoil her anyway. But the opposite, but that's all right. Also, I've officially given up on watching the rest of this season, because I heard it like some fucked up shit happen.

And I heard that the next season's like three years from now. 2024. I'll pick it up then. That's one of those ones I'll pick it up then. Because I'll forget everything by then, so might as well just watch it fresh. But Trevor Lawrence, there's just something about watching him play.

I don't know what, he misses guys. Like guys that are wide open, he misses easy throws. He had the pick, they were screaming on the broadcast because the interception that sealed the game was he was intercepted by a guy with a cast on. And they were like, he's got a fucking cast on. The dude yelled at him, remind him, like you just got intercepted by Mega Man.

Yeah, and he had the terrible red zone interception where it was just like his brain froze. And he's like, I'm just gonna throw it and hope my guy catches it when his guy wasn't even close to being around. I've actually, I figured out that a good percentage of looking the part as a young quarterback involves how confidently you throw the ball away.

When you know that there's nothing that you can do, and you can throw the ball away so it's not intentional grounding, but make it look like you're doing it like with purpose. Like fucking spike that ball into the ground at your receiver's feet. Peyton Manning was awesome at that. He was just frustrated.

Yeah, just frustrated like fucking drill an ant hill with just a fire coming off your shoulder. There's other guys that do it kind of, they're unsure of themselves when they're getting rid of the ball. Like they're thinking through the rule book as they get rid of the pass. And those are the guys, it's like your incompletions,

sometimes it depends like how confidently you can throw an incompletion. That means more to me than sometimes than how sweet your actual completion is. Yeah, and his incompletions look terrible, his completions don't look good. He also like Travis Etienne was awesome. He now is the best draft pick they've had on Clemson in 2021.

Like he, it was actually trading James Robinson. I love whenever this happens to the NFL where you trade one player and it's like, oh maybe now we can give all the carries to Travis Etienne. Oh, maybe you should have been giving him all the carries because he's fucking electric. Yeah, he's really good. And he kept you in this game.

I love that Jaguars fans have discovered something weird about Travis Etienne's foot too. Have you seen any of this? No. So they say that he has a duck foot on his right foot that might make him more susceptible to injury. But his foot naturally goes off to the side, which means like he can change directions

going to his right faster than most guys can because his foot's at like an angle. That's crazy. So next time you watch him run, be on the lookout for Travis Etienne's duck foot. That just angles out. I, as far as the Jaguars, I'm repulsed at myself. I need to like a Jaguars reminder, Jake,

that you need to give us like whatever team that just historically stinks, that shows flashes in the first three weeks of the season. Just wait, just give it some time. Because we're just back to the Jaguars stinking. And this is a really, this is as down as you can be if you're a Jaguars fan because you have the guy that was supposed to be the next Peyton Manning.

The surest like sure thing, oh Josh Allen just threw an interception. And now the Packers are just throwing it backwards. And now we might not cover the spread, which would suck because then people are going to get on me and that's going to take away some of my joy. Either way, Trevor Lawrence being. The Packers plus 10 and a half.

Trevor Lawrence being bad is like as low as you can get for a Jaguars because you can suck. But when you have the number one overall pick and he's supposed to be a slam dunk, you know, Andrew Lock, Peyton Manning, all these guys, like you can't miss and then you might miss. That's as rock bottom as it gets. It's getting close to Def Con three time for Trevor Lawrence

where he should consider cutting the hair. He had Urban as a coach last year though. Yeah, but does that factor in at all? Uncle Chaps addressed that in his post game commentary where he was shaving his head and he was like, this is your, we're, we're fine. He was, he was buzzing his head. He's like, you can't just keep saying he had,

how long are we going to say he had Urban last year? He, we're now into November. It's not like, and his response. Three weeks ago, you guys were like, the Jaguars are fun. Like they were not hear me. Just put in a, I told Jake to put in a reminder. Okay. So sometimes we're fucking dumb as shit on this show.

And when they played against the Jaguars or the, the chargers and the chargers were missing, I don't know, like 77% of their defensive starters. Yeah. Justin Herbert could like suck his own dick cause he lost all his ribs. They were playing against a pre-season team and they, they look good in that game. And so being big cat got excited.

I'm sorry. It felt fun to get excited about the Jaguars. There's certain things that, so we've been doing this show what, six years now? We've, we've been able to experience a range of emotions about almost every single franchise that's out there. We've never been able to experience, besides the Blake Bortles run, but in recent memory, we haven't experienced the Jaguars

being fun. So we naturally wanted to feel that emotion and feelings are never wrong, Hank. It's just sometimes how you react to them that are wrong. And facts don't care about our feelings. And now we have some more facts that Trevor Lawrence might be a bus. And I will couch all this by saying,

there is still time, Hank. He still is on a bad team. I just, that was a gross game by him. That was a gross game by him. Like watching that game was disgusting to watch. And he cost them a game that they easily could have won. I need to find out what Russell Wilson did on the flight back.

I want to know if he was stretching, if he was getting treatment done on the way home. If he has any shame about the report that came out that he leaked, I need to know if he changed his, his flight behavior on the way back. Okay, I think we've actually gone to the limit of the Russell Wilson hate. And not that like, he's still just a terrible

like personality and every time he talks, I cringe. And he did the let's ride coming off the field. He also did the pregame prayer where he's standing there and all the cameras are on him. And it's like, what are you doing? There was one moment where I was like, hey guys, I think we've gone a little too far because this is pretty normal.

He did the post game prayer circle. That happens in every game. Yeah, but did you see him? He was like, he was screaming. I know, but he, no, he was, there were people who were like, the Jaguars are in that? Like Russell Wilson, like that happens every game. It makes complete sense.

And I'm sure that Russell Wilson looks at himself as like the quarterback of the prayer circle. So he's like, I got this guys. And then he closes his eyes and starts talking to the real Mr. Unlimited, which is God. And he's closing his eyes and he's screaming. He was like, Packers just or bills just picked off the pack.

He was sweating during his post game prayer where he was, he was just yelling at God. If I was God, I would actually be so mad that Russell Wilson gives me all the credit. It's like, dude, you suck. Stop saying that I'm doing all this. You're the one that stinks. Right, right.

You're the one. I want you to be better. You're the one that every teammate is like, dude, get away from me. I'm just saying we, we, I want Josh Allen to be crediting me if I'm God. Yes, we do this all the time though. And we're obviously absolutely guilty of it.

But when you go so far where you pick apart everything and then they're doing like completely normal things. I saw people roasting him for the prayer circle. And I was like, wait, that's a normal thing that every game has. So we got to be careful. Cause otherwise we're going to tire ourselves out of, and they want like it, it does as,

as corny as he is, if he wins, it does change how you look at him. That's exactly what happened in Seattle for so long. It's like, okay, he's a winner. Let us cook. You win. Winning cures off. Do whatever. You can get away with anything in the NFL

if you win football games. Let's, let's talk real quick about the Broncos because now three and five going into the bye week, AFC is going to be tough to make the playoffs. They have the Titans, Raiders, Panthers, Chiefs coming up. I, their defense is so good. Yeah.

And they're probably not going to trade Bradley Chubb now. It's all, it's always crazy when you have these games, we'll get to another one with the Saints, where it's like, well, if they lose this game, probably going to trade one of their best players. And if they win, they'll, they'll keep going. And if you lose this game, your coach might be fired. Yeah. Yeah.

When was the last time we got a coach that was fired mid season of their, their rookie year, their first time ever coaching? Has that ever happened? Urban. Urban. NFL. Yeah. Last year. Last year.

That was last season. Yes, that was. Yeah. It was like week 13 or something. Yeah. That was, it was getting towards the end, but I can't remember like this early, week eight. It was actually in discussion that Nathaniel Hackett could be fired.

The only other thing I had from this game was Greg Dolcich is awesome. And he's their, their tight end, rookie tight end from UCLA, fun name to say, also feels like he might be like the piece that, cause he's just tall, which Russell Wilson needs to get just all tall guys so he can see them. But yeah, I guess the Broncos like a little bit of a bounce up

going into the bye week. This is great. I just wonder if, you know, how some teams, they try to keep the guys around during the bye week, try to like get some extra reps in if they can. Russell Wilson is probably trying to recruit the guys. Hey guys, let's stick around. Yeah.

Let's get some, we're going to listen. You can all come over to my house. We'll have like sleepovers and we'll work 13 hour days. And they're all probably like, dude, fuck you respectfully. Is he going to, I wouldn't be shocked if he flies to a World Series game, just to be seen. It feels like he always, always is in. Did you know maybe he was a baseball player, big cat.

Yeah, that's true. So it might be that or it could be court side of the Lakers, which would be fun just because the Lakers are never going to win. I hope they don't win tonight. What could, what could Russ be doing this week? If there was a, the NWSL just had their finals, right? I could see him going to like a woman's soccer game

and being like a WNBA game, maybe being front row. I could absolutely see that. So, yeah, Broncos Jaguars. It was just the perfect London game because it just sucked. And it was even the, like they scored enough. It was the under still hit, but the game just kind of sucked. I don't know how Roger Goddell thinks that England can house two franchises if we just keep exporting the Jaguars

to them every year. It's crazy. I guess the NFL is just, we're just king. Yeah, we are king. All right, so we have the one PM slate, which was actually fantastic. We had some scoring was back and we had some great games. Let's start with the most important game for this podcast,

Patriots 22, Jets 17. Mr. INT is back in the building, Zach Wilson with three interceptions, all pretty bad. Who actually don't Hank, you won. So you get to start and you can, you can, you can steer us in whatever direction you want to go. It was a gross game. It was Billy and I drove in together and it just shows,

you know, how far the mighty have fallen. I was driving in and I was like, Billy, I think the Patriots are going to lose. Like I didn't feel, I was nervous about, I was nervous about playing the Jets. And then the game was gross. We still won, but I didn't really get a lot of joy out of it. And the Patriots are just kind of a gross,

you know, middle tier team. Wow, this is very humble of you. It's emotionally mature. I just, I don't know how much of it is. It's hard to care that much. It's just like. I don't know how much of it is true because you were, you were like narking to Big Cat

that the Jets didn't post the final score. You were taking like, you were taking a tower. People were, no, people were DMing me to tell Big Cat. So I was just, I was the middle man. You were, you were a little bit happy. And that's, that's me would be a red flag if you were like super happy about the Patriots being the Jets. It was one of those things where I was like,

I was happy, but at what cost? Because I was nervous beforehand. And it just kind of put it all in reflect, like in, in reflection of like the fact that you were nervous about this before just shows how mid the Patriots really are. Yeah. But you won the game.

We won the game. And Mac Jones looked. I think we'll come in second in the division. What did Mac Jones look like? Okay. Mid-ish. Mid-ish. No sky camera fires this week.

Mid-ish. Yeah. But again, Bailey's app, he didn't look good either. So it's just, you know, we are what we are. Yeah. You are what you are. I still think we should write, you know, we got to ride Mac out.

There was a great quote. It's his job to lose. By Ian Eagle during the game. I don't know if you guys caught this, but this was some next level Saber metrics. Ian Eagle said 95% of games in the NFL are lost and not won. I did hear him say that. I did hear him say that.

I still don't know what the fuck he was talking about, but it makes sense. That's Trent Dillford. Like I get, no, I know. He won in this league. If Trent Dillford is teaching like algebra two. Yeah. With his, you cannot win in the NFL and lose

at the same time. This Ian Eagle quote, this is like calc. Wait, say it again. 95% of games in the NFL are lost and not won. I think he's saying, he's saying right there. Oh my God, Josh, that hit the ground, right? He just threw an interception. This game has gotten sloppy.

This game has gotten sloppy. I hope that hit the ground. I think what he's saying there is Zach Wilson throwing three interceptions. And the way he played today, the Jets defense is very good. Yeah. Yeah, the Jets defense kept them in that game.

I just don't know if the 95% figure, if that holds up to scrutiny or not. This game, definitely. Yeah. I'd say that this game, Mr. I&T, I&T the game away. Yes, he did. Billy, do you agree?

Look, I'm just saying, we just watched Josh Allen throw two interceptions. That was a bad pick. That was a bad pick. That we're both kind of in the same vein as Zach Wilson. So Zach Wilson's interception is also up 27. I know they're up 27 too. So you're saying that his misses

look like Josh Allen's misses? Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm gonna defend Zach Wilson. You're usually a little bit older. Okay. It's gonna be hard. Okay. But look, he threw for more than any other Jets quarterback

has against the Patriots in the Belchak era. 355 yards. It's a loser talk. It's a loser talk. Two touchdowns. Yeah, wow. Shit. Shit just clapped.

This is, Billy. What kind of stat is that? I know, Billy. This is a loser talk. I got more stats. I got more stats. But if that's the one you lead with, that's a loser talk.

He went 20. You lost. He had to throw the ball away 15 times. And that reflects in his, in his, stop it, stop it. That reflects in his completion percentage. He's 20 for 41, but he threw it 15 times away. And then, you know, that takes us to 20 of 29, three picks.

What I said about Trevor Lawrence earlier, Zach Wilson has maybe the worst throwaways of any quarterback in the playoffs. So this is what I'm getting to. This is what I'm getting to. He's the worst. When he has to intentionally miss a pass, most of the time he'll just throw an interception.

He'll be like, fuck it. Let him cook, let him cook. Like the thing is, when he's looking great, he looks awesome. But then he does this, the way he's scrambling. The way he's scrambling. 95% of the time when he looks good, he looks awesome.

I'm just saying, when you have to throw the ball away that many times, one time it's not going to go well. You know? Like just the percentage. What about the other two? The percentage of like miss rate. What happens on the other two? Well, one was an arm punt.

Let me read a quote. Wait, wait, they're like 14 yard out that he threw to the sideline that got picked off? Yeah, that wasn't an arm punt. Yeah, so that's the worst arm shank. I'm just so basically, this is a quote from Zach. So I think this might, you know, this is actually hopeful because now that we hear how he's thinking about it,

every time I get out of the pocket, it just gets frustrating to throw the ball away. Said Wilson, who completed only 20 and 41 passes. That's what I've done for the last four weeks to put us in a good position to not turn the ball over and for us to win. So I need to keep doing that when something is not here, it gets old and getting out

and not seeing anything there. So he's basically throwing the ball recklessly because he's getting bored of throwing the ball away. Yes, one of them was like, there was an open shot. Certainly, one of them was there. He was getting pressure in the pocket and he was trying to make a play, something that like a type of interception,

Josh Allen just did. Yeah, okay. No, I'd say this is more like, you're going down a path of James without all the upside right now. He reminds me of a younger Carson Wentz. I'm not saying a young Carson Wentz who was an MVP. I'm saying a younger Carson Wentz who it feels like

every time he's like, I'm going to make a play, I'm going to spin, I'm going to throw it. And then his throws, sometimes he's throwing the ball into like, he threw, that one of those interceptors was into like four different Patriots that was like, he just is hoping, similar to Trevor Lawrence. Like, I hope this works out. Yeah.

I mean, the thing is the quarterback play is the weakest part of the team right now. I was talking to Hank earlier. I was like, look, I think the Jets are good enough team to beat the Patriots. It's just, I think we're going to see today that Zach Wilson with more pressure with Breeze Hall out and injuries on the offensive line

that he's going to really have to play to win. And with that, we saw him try to play to win in the past. He had the support of a better offensive line and Breeze Hall. And now, you know, like the curtain's been pulled out. He wasn't defended by the whole offensive system and we're seeing what's happening. But to that, if that Mac Jones picked six, didn't get hold back.

That did suck. That did suck. It would have been a totally different game. It did suck for you. We should say that. The game could have been 17-3 going into the half and we would have been playing a much different style of football.

But what happened was that didn't happen. Our defense wins championships. So it's not that crazy to depend on a defense to win you games. Yeah. Just saying. Does defense win championships though? Defense wins championships.

It's a very cool thing to say. And I've said it myself because it's just facts. Let's say quarterbacks usually. Quarterbacks. I'd say like I'm going to have to dig into the list of quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls recently. But I'm pretty sure it's like the best quarterbacks in the league. Typically when the Super Bowls.

No, I'm a, you know, I'm old fashioned defense wins champion. OK. That's crazy. So where are you at now with the Jets? Because it does feel, it feels like that, you know, the Patriots are probably the weakest they've been in a very long time and they still beat you.

This is kind of why we pushed back when you were like, I feel bad watching you guys. And we're like, dude, we're all, we're the same. All of us here on this side of the table. But it was still a pretty competitive game. It wasn't like, you know, it wasn't a dumpster fire. Yeah. It wasn't a dumpster fire.

Look, I would see, look, two weeks they're going to play again. I wouldn't be surprised that they could, they can win in two weeks. I like that, I like that. Keep talking to yourself. They played the first time. Don't back down. Sometimes me and Big Cat did play the game. We, we try to, we try to beat you down a little bit, Billy.

And no, I'm not, I'm not being down. I am, I'm trying to go. I mean, going into like last week, I knew setting up, you know, Sam Ellinger was going to start, Jets, we're going to have a big test. I knew I might be in this deep place. So I'm not trying to stay positive. I'm not trying to beat you down at all. I'm just asking you a question of like, where are you, where are you mentally?

Because as often as the case with our franchises, they're not when they have to step up and there's still a lot of season left and the Jets still have a winning record, but when they have to step up in those big moments, like we said, these next three games, we're going to be, if you go two in one, Jets are for real, for real, and it's stopped, it started poorly. The thing is all of his interceptions are caused by his certain play style. And because of that, and because they're so ridiculous, it's almost like, well, you know, you'll clean that up.

Like that'll go away. And that's the hopeful part of it. Like if he was throwing inaccurate passes that, you know, we're getting straight, well, they sometimes are straight to the defender, but like missing on crosses, like missing throws instead of just doing stupid throws. Like you can cut out the stupid throws. Like he even said, he's getting front, like bored of throwing the ball away. He wants to make a play.

You know what, motherfucker? Just fucking throw the ball away. Yeah. Don't, don't get coy with it. Don't get like cute. It's okay. Basically he's getting too cute with it and it's fucking up, you know, turning the ball over and drives are getting stopped.

He's trying to extend plays and it's, you know, not always working, but sometimes it does. It's okay to be boring. I think basically the one thing, if he's going to scramble, stop scrambling backwards, yes, start scrambling forward. He's played, he scrambles, uh, like I played Madden where I just run backwards 15 yards and hope someone gets open. And you're absolutely right on that.

He's got to start scrambling forwards and maybe pick up the three yards instead of, you know, getting into those wacky situations where he ends up throwing these weird picks. I've noticed that, that his spin moves a lot of times take him back. He's got learn to do a spin move and go either lateral or like forward with it a little bit, but when he spins out of the grasp, he ends up usually drifting back five yards. If I was his quarterback coach and, you know, from my limited experience and

probably, you know, people probably disagree with me. If I'm him, you do the spin move, you get one more look at the field. If you can't see anything, no more extended play and going to that back, like he goes towards the sideline, even farther back into that little pocket place where sometimes he does get good plays. But if that first look, you don't get it, start running towards the line of scrimmage, try to see if you can pick up yards. If you're going to get fucked, throw it away.

You know who he should take a lesson from is Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz is awesome at throwing the ball out of bounds. Yeah, he's really, he fires the fucking pigskin out of bounds like Johnny moxin. Now, Billy, I had two stats that I'm just going to throw out there. And we're not trying to knock you down, but it's been 2,499 days since the Jets beat the Patriots. And the last time that happened, part of my take was still three months away

from the first episode, and Billy was a junior in high school. Yeah, but yeah, but big cat. When was the last time the Bears beat the Patriots? I was six days ago. Oh, OK. I was a junior in high school and I was actually at that game. Oh, I think I was. You should have gone today.

It would have been different. I know, I know, I actually did murder that. He's like, if I'd been there, it would have been. Well, you know, I was also blame me on not being able to go. I think it was one of those things I don't understand. If you had, if you had came, it would have been better. Like, you know, you should have come and I could have like for Billy. I could have said that it was a work thing.

I could have gone. One person comes. It doesn't work. You know that. I remember because I won my game on Saturday. God damn in high school through for like four touchdowns, 350 yards. Then the next day went to the Jets game and saw them win. It was sick.

So maybe it's because you're not playing anymore. No, no, no, no. Yeah, because they lost either way. I I'm actually a little surprised with Hank. We you seem very humble and resigned to the fact that the Patriots might not be that good, but doesn't it feel good that you still beat Billy? Yeah, but like I said, it was like the fact that we were even talking, you know, on the way in. Oh, yeah, I know what it feels like to be a team

in the AFC East or the NFC North for the past, you know, 20 years or whatever, where it's like there's one team in the division that's significantly better. And you're just kind of fighting for scraps. You know what? You got to you got to like watching this Bill's game. Yeah, I was going to say that doesn't matter what happens to the Patriots. That was going to be my last question in the playoffs. Again, it's going to be the exact same thing. You have to be careful that you don't get to a point where Jets fans

can say rent free, bro. Yeah. After you beat them, you know, like right now, Jets fans know better because they're like, yes, obviously the Patriots like the last time that we won a game against you guys, Billy was still good at football. So they know how long of an era that's been all state. But once you get to a place where they can they can accuse you of, oh, man, you're you're so triggered at us because you think about us all the time. That's what you need to avoid at all costs. Yes. Yes.

The Jets beat the Patriots to December 27th, 2015. Oh, no. Oh, I was just looking that up. Shit. So how was your game like that weekend? And I think I got that next up. I remember going to a Jett game. The Patriots won that one. But when did they play October 25th? When did they play earlier in that season? October 25th? That's when the Patriots beat the Jets 30 to 23.

But what about when they played at home? The Jets beat the Patriots December 27th. Shit. OK, probably at that. That's OK. That's OK. But I still would have won if we were that game. Yeah, right. If you had a game, December 26th. OK, next up. Also, Hank, just a point of clarification.

We're going to get to the dolphins, but you keep do you keep saying where the second you're the second best team in the in the East. Yeah, you're when it's all in the dust settles. OK, all right, all right, all right. Next up Vikings 34 Cardinals 26. I guess I have to say now I had this circled on Friday's show as this is the game that the Vikings will be proven to be frauds. I was wrong. The Vikings won this game.

Kirk Cousins look good. Kirk Cousins had a run for a touchdown where he reached 18 miles per hour, which is crazy. And Kyler is still the most frustrating guy to watch. I am. I still think they're frauds. I do, but no, I really, really think they're frauds. This is maybe the worst six in one team of all time. OK, I I agree with you. And I have a stat to back it up. OK, all right.

Yeah, their quarterback is Kirk Cousins. That's true. That's a fact. So I agree with you and I'm going to stick with it. But I'm saying I have to at least eat a little bit of shit when I pick the Cardinals. I bet on the Cardinals. I said, this is the game. The Vikings look like frauds and they come out and win. Now, I could also say that the Cardinals could have won that game

if who Dorch didn't fucking muff the punt when they were getting the ball back down to in the fourth quarter. That sucked. They also could have won the game of Kyler Murray didn't just throw the ball up a couple of times for an easy interception. That also sucked. Now, here's what I have to eat some crow. Well, I'll eat crow whenever I'm hungry. I'm not hungry right now.

If you beat a fraud, doesn't that make you a greater fraud, too? Like if it's catch me, if you can, like a really, really good fraud. We'd know all the tricks that other gods do. True. True. The Cardinals, they're fucking frauds. Well, I don't even think they're frauds because they stink. But they were good. Just bad. Remember, they were like eight and what are they? Eight and one. Eight and one last year. Yeah. Yeah.

So but they're not this year. They're not. I still I still count the Cardinals as like bad frauds. They're like medium, medium talented frauds. Yeah. The Vikings are the fucking Frank Abagnale of frauds. OK, listen, I'm about to catch your boost me back up. I'll stick with it. I just know that I was wrong on this game and you do have to play them next week.

They play at the commander, so that would be nice. If you could prove it. This is my this is my this is my catch me if you can. Your personal fraud game. I'm Tom Hanks in this situation. Yeah, it would be nice. Is the game. It's probably at one o'clock. It's one o'clock. So yeah, you got to do it.

You got to go out there and win that game. You got to go out there and win that game. I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. And you listen, if they if they beat the commanders at home next week, I will I'll take my foot off the gas, calling them frauds. But I just I I told Jake to set a reminder in the calendar to not believe Kirk Cousins, don't believe his lies. Like it's a memento where you're leaving yourself notes for the future.

I've been trying. I've been fighting myself tooth and nail to keep myself from buying into the Vikings. I know. Yes, Kirk Cousins. He charmed me with his Midwestern nice ways, but he's also played very, very well. So I will give him credit like Kirk Cousins has played awesome this year. Right. The Vikings have played awesome this year.

I still don't believe no, I agree with you. Like I'm not and I would say most Vikings fans deep down probably think the same thing, although there is that feeling going on in the NFC right now besides, you know, maybe the Eagles and the Cowboys. There's not a lot of teams that have looked incredible. So it feels gettable. It feels like, oh, you know, you could maybe win one game and get in the Super Bowl here because there's not a ton of great teams out there.

But I will give them credit for this game because I thought they were going to lose it. And the Cardinals found every way, every which way to lose it. Deandre Hopkins back is like that. That that's a one nice thing is that we expected the Cardinals to look different when Deandre Hopkins is back. They do. Collin Murray had a crazy day minus the two interceptions,

but he also had the first, which I assume is going to be a long line of insult dances at his expense. Patrick Peterson did some, I think it was some Call of Duty moves, some video game moves, pretending to play video game night thing. Yeah. Got a video game problem. And then afterwards, he was asked about it and he said, I think it's called Call of Duty. I'm not much of a gamer heard.

It just came out. So I like that. I like that we're now in the people are just going to start making fun of Kyler Murray when he fucks up. Yeah, he's doing he's doing the meme where the stick figure walks into the room and he sees Kyler playing video games. Hey, son, are you losing? Yeah. Yeah, I like that. And they were. It's funny. Yeah, that's that's very funny by Justin Jefferson. Yes. No, Patrick Peterson, Patrick Peterson. Yes.

So I I think that the Vikings are a perfectly fine, nice team. They're enjoyable. They do a lot of things right. They're fun offensively at times. It's just a matter of we can do a visualization exercise. Just imagine it's the playoffs. And the Green Bay Packers are playing against the Minnesota Vikings. The Packers get a wildcard spot.

The Packers stick. But the Packers get a wildcard spot as bad as the Packers have looked at times this year. And as good as the Vikings have looked, I would still bet on Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. And I I like to I like that visual visualization. I like to instead visualize Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings in their road.

They're they're wearing road whites and very purple. And they're going into Lincoln Financial and there's eighty five thousand bat girls screaming said in their face. That is a absolute ass kick. That would be a shit pump. Or if they go if they go to San Francisco, yeah, and just get their teeth run, OK, this is good. Yeah, or or they go to Dallas and Michael Parsons is sitting there

being like my cousins. I'm going to bend you in half. Micah snaps him. He gets him in his spine and Kirk Cousins head pops. Yeah, I'm I'm going to absolutely punish you. And then we get to watch. I can go through any list of teams that are likely to make the playoffs in the NFC, with the exception of maybe the Falcons.

I feel like the Vikings could beat the Falcons. Yeah, or the Panthers, if they get in or the Saints, if they get in the box. If they get in, yeah, right. They will beat whatever team from the NFC South. I'd agree. I agree with that. So that's nice. We said they have that. But but every other team that I can envision the playoffs right now

would perform some level of torture on Kirk Cousins. Yes. So six and one, though, nothing. Can't apologize for your Vikings fans. Six and one is six and one. They do have, I think they play the commanders. Then they have we'll get the fraud test when they play at the bills and verse the Cowboys. That will be that will be a nice test of OK, let's see.

Like if they go one in one in those, I might have to rethink my whole fraud thing. I might. I'm so dug in at this point that I think even when I know that I'm wrong, I have to I have to keep doubling down like in Blackjack. Yeah, until I'm eventually right about it. I like to give I like to give teams an out. Like if you can do this, I'm giving you the challenge. If you can do this, if you can go one in one against the bills

and the Cowboys, I will I will rescind my fraud label. If Kirk Cousins can win a Super Bowl and get Super Bowl MVP. Yeah. In that game, I will still frauds. Fraud on Super Bowl. Bubble, bubble championship. Who are they playing? Yeah, they the. The Ravens. Oh, if they beat the Ravens. No, no, because the Ravens will probably be injured by then.

They'll have like a shitload of injuries. Absolutely. No, that's fraudulent. If they beat the bills. Yeah. In the Super Bowl. Or the maybe the Chiefs. I'll crown them. Maybe they officially crowd. If they beat the bills of the Super Bowl,

Kirk Cousins doesn't even have to get MVP. Yeah. I will say he's no longer fraud. If they beat the Chiefs, I need him to get MVP. Yes. In order to take that label. OK, those are these are all fair demands by us. Yeah. And the Cardinals suck. I'm sick of the Cardinals shit. They're in my sick of sick of their shit tier in my power rankings.

Come out on Tuesday. I'm just I'm sick of like thinking that they might be explosive and fun. And then I watch the games. I just get bummed out. And I know they had some like it was a fun game to watch. It was back and forth. There was some drama points, all those things. But I'm just sick of their shit.

In terms of teams that bum you out, I'd say the Cardinals are definitely up there with both the Jaguars and the Broncos. Yeah. Yeah. Just bummer, bummer organizations. Just bum. Just just big time bummers. OK, before we get to the next game, let's do a quick ad. I think it's from Coors Light. I love Coors Light.

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This game, by the way, is so it's 2717 with 330 left. It looks like the bills are just going to try to run out the clock. It's crazy chippy like these teams. And they have no reason to hate each other. And it's been personal fouls left and right. We got it. We saw a coach get pushed. It's kind of fun. Yeah, I don't know why it's been so chippy.

I've wondered what the what the bills are going to do. And here we have Stefan Diggs getting into a fight. Yeah, this is showing the clips right now. And everybody loves Stefan Diggs. I don't I don't know why they're fighting him. But I've been wondering about the bills since they're so good and they're just decimating everybody. How are they able to keep like keep their foot on the gas?

And I think their foot on the gas technique is just they go into every game wanting to kill the other teams like actually kill them, which is good, I think. Look, they're just screaming at each other right now. We've had basically a pause in the game because they're all yelling at each other, Billy. I don't think they want to kill them. I think they want to clown them. Yeah, I think like Josh Allen laughing at the other defense.

They want to humiliate. It's like they they get mad if they're not able to clown you. Yeah, it's like John Wayne Gacy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I would have preferred if Josh Allen hadn't thrown that interception on the goal line. So the clowning actually did happen. But this is still a decent result for me. Also, I went to the game in 2013.

I was a freshman. OK, great. All right, next up, Dolphins, Lions, Jake, Dolphins, 31, Lions, 27. Two is really good. It's still undefeated with two on the field playing a full football game. I know he I know people show the under thrown passes, but he was crazy efficient today. The offense was crazy efficient.

There were nine for 13 on third and fourth downs or three for three in the red zone. I mean, he's just he's good. They win the offense can hang with anyone. Yeah, be Buffalo like that. I'm not scared of a track meeting Buffalo. Like, I like that they can do it in the winter time. You think snow on the ground like that to play in December. But yeah, it's a good they could hang.

It's a good mentality to have. And I think that like offensively, yeah, you guys, the nice thing about having Waddle and Tariq Hill is even if you do under thrown by five yards, they're athletic enough. And they were probably open by 10 yards to begin with. So that's fine. Dolphins are back. December 18th. Oh, that's going to be cold.

KDS uniform. Tariq is just absolutely insane. He's he had 12 catches for 188 yards today. He's now on pace. I know that 17 games changes a lot of these things, but he is on pace to beat Calvin Johnson's record of 1,964 yards. And he is so the rest. So Tariq now has four games, 160 plus yards this season.

The rest of the NFL combined has four games. 160 plus yards by a single receiver. And I think in in those four games, he's already tied like the Dolphins. Yeah, all time record. Yeah, for a number of 160 yard games by their own wide receivers. Yes, he's on pace to set the all time record. As you mentioned, he's on pace for 2,042 yards. It's crazy.

So we got to figure out what the equation would be for for him. For him to count that as like the single season, no question about it. Better season than Calvin Johnson. Yeah. I would say if he can get to 2,000, 2,075 yards, I would count that. Yeah, he's got to get he's got to get like 150 yards more. No doubter. Yeah. Yeah, he has to he has to really like put a stamp on that

because that Calvin Johnson season was incredible. Yeah, but he's Tariq Hill is just out of his mind right now. And it feels like every he didn't even score a touchdown. And he was just every every single time they needed a big play, every big pass up, Josh Allen and he over. Oh, that was a bad pass. OK, that was a bad pass for that pass by Josh Allen. I must say right now, they're the good news for Detroit is Dan Campbell

after the game said they're close. We're close, guys, we're real close. I got to get this figured out and man, I'm going to do whatever it takes. I got to get this thing figured out and turned around. I don't know what I'm what I have to do, but I'll do it. The Lions were back for a half. Oh, when they they jumped out to a 14, nothing lead. Yeah, they were.

And but it felt, to me, at least, like it was the definition of a zero, zero ball game at that point, like that did not feel like a lead that the Lions could hold off against the Dolphins. No, and they and the Dolphins came out. And I guess this is a testament, like if you can score 27 points in the first half, that's nice, because then people won't realize you scored zero points in the second half. I actually didn't realize that.

So right now, right? You're like, oh, yeah, they had. I know they didn't score a lot in the second. No, they scored zero points in the second half. The Dolphins were able to just figure out how to beat them defensively and stop them. So yeah, it was it was tough to to to watch the Lions like be back for a hot second.

And then the Dolphins do did what they have been able to do. When to is healthy and run all over them. So congrats, Jake. Yeah, they're alive. And they have the Bears, the Browns, a by and the Texans. That's pretty good. I have a blind resume for you. Um, quarterback A, 65 percent completion percentage on the year,

12 touchdowns, four interceptions, 2,000 yards, seven games played. OK, I like that quarterback B, 70 percent completion percentage, 12 touchdowns, three interceptions, 1678 yards on five games played. Oh, wow. Quarterback B sounds really good. Hmm. That's Justin Herbert and Tua. Two is having a better year than Justin Herbert right now.

Yeah. He is the one that gets compared to they picked the wrong quarterback. Is it it is out so far this year? Yeah, it is funny that like Joe Burrow doesn't I feel like Joe Burrow because he's been to the Super Bowl and everyone loves Joe Burrow. He doesn't really get talked about with those two guys. It just becomes a two averse Justin Herbert debate. Yeah, because it's and they were the yeah, they were obviously picked back to back.

It's the eyeball test. So it's like Joe Burrow. OK, yeah, no question. He's better than Herbert right now. Although there there is like a corner of the internet that is in love with Justin Herbert. Oh, I think Joe is very good. I think I think he's very good, too. But they they think that like they would take him top three.

He there are way more people that shit on Tua and love Justin Herbert when my point is not like, oh, one's significantly better than the other. They're pretty close and you shouldn't shit on either of them because they're both pretty good quarterbacks. I would love to have any of the three. Yeah, please. That's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah. So the the Dolphins they're kind of back, right, Jake?

Feeling good. And I think if Tua didn't obviously big if but if he didn't get hurt, like they would be at the top of the AFC right now. I like that. Yeah. There's no reason to get jets. It's impossible. That would have been the only game. I mean, versus Minnesota, they could have definitely won that game

and at the Jets, the Jets played really well. That game, not taking away anything from them. But yeah, like after three weeks, you guys, not you guys, the whole world was talking about them possibly being the best team. Would you play the Jets again? Uh, last last week, last week and that's going to be that's going to be in Miami. Yeah. I mean, built the bulletin board material with the whole fans

making the two of fingers. Yeah. That's going to be a big time revenge game. Big time. Yeah. I've never seen Jake so so upset about the fact that we'll not forget it. New York football fans were insulting to his injuries. Yes. Yes. Crazy. OK, next up, Cowboys 49 bears 29 craziest, I would say like total of the day. You didn't think this game was going to be this many points.

Yeah, the bears got absolutely gashed defensively. The Cowboys came out four touchdown drives to start the game. It was as easy as it could ever be. They ran six point nine yards per rush on the day. That's bad. It's bad. That's really bad. Shout out, Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard was a welcome. Welcome to the Tony Pollard bandwagon. As we've been saying, like I'm no I'm no expert.

I don't watch film for a living. I watch football on TV for a living. But when I watched Tony Pollard run with the football, to me, he seems just about as good as Ezekiel Elliott. Yes. It's not like exactly as good as Ezekiel Elliott. Yes. Keep giving him the ball. He's hungry right now. Feed the guy. Yeah. He's fucking good. He's electric.

Yeah. And all right. So this is going to sound like loser talk, but I'm just going to say it anyway. That was I can't be mad about that game. Like people were like, oh, you got clown today. The Bears defense was terrible. They they can't tackle in the orange helmets. I'm convinced of this. This is just that's analytics.

Well, they they look like traffic cones or practice cones, which like if you if you grow up playing football, they put orange things on the field. Yeah. You spend your entire life learning how to dance around the orange. It's it's a terrible look. But Justin Fields has looked great. Now, outside of I would I would prefer I'll say this.

I would prefer my quarterback when there's a turnover to not jump over the guy who gets who gets the ball, then letting him score a touchdown. That was a bad look. Michael Parsons recovering a fumble and then Justin Fields avoiding touching him while he's on the ground and then having Michael Parsons pop up and score a touchdown. We got to clean that up in terms of the actual quarterbacking play.

He's looking so much better than he looked at the beginning. Yeah, he the offense is fun. And I think I was actually going to ask you as the only question I had about this game is this may be the perfect way for this game to turn out for you. Yes, where your defense, which you know is sauce to be in with. Just Ray Robert Quinn, you got you got rid of your captain. Yeah. And so you know that you stink on defense. You lose the game, which you'd probably prefer to lose.

Ultimately, if you're going to be looking at draft. Yes. You want to lose the game. Your defense looks bad. Your offense still looks like it's making improvements on where it's been in the past. That to me seems like a win win for you. It's essentially how I break it down is if the bears lose and Justin Fields is making taking steps forward,

I can live with that all season long because the bears are not a very good team. The roster is not very good. I know that they're not going to be a playoff team. So all I care about is Justin Fields. Now, if it's a loss where like the the the bears have a chance to win the game late, like their loss against the Vikings when whatever his name is, Emmett Smith or whatever, fumbled, right? Justin Fields having a chance to win games with late game drives. I don't want to rob him of that.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, if there's that opportunity where he can go prove something, I want that. I want them to win that game. Same thing happened with the Giants. They feel as Jones muffed a punt when they're down eight to get the ball back with like two minutes left. That was a robbed opportunity of Justin Fields trying to win a game. But this game, he looked good. The defense looked bad.

Better draft pick. There's no there really does not affect me because I don't know what it is. What he what is clicked in his head, but the way he's throwing the side arms. Yeah, the launch angles are different. He's getting the ball out. He's going through his reads. Some of the the play calling the designed runs like, hey, this guy's a freak athlete. Maybe we should run the ball with him.

Yeah, it's all starting to to feel like it's coming together. And I'm excited. I'm like very, very excited. I think the ultimate end of a game scenario for you would be if they were down by six points. Justin Fields takes them on a touchdown drive. You guys score touchdown games tied. Yeah, kicker goes out there and misses the extra point. And then you kick off to them and over time, they drive down and score.

Yeah. So Justin Fields had a game winning. Yes, right. But the rest of the team let him down. You end up losing the game anyways. The only note I have for Justin Fields is I would like to see him smile occasionally. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen him actually happy. I think he just wants to win very, very bad. He's one of those guys. But even against against a five week one.

Yeah, so that's true. That was a win. I don't he I actually prefer the way that like he doesn't even if he plays well and he the team loses, he's upset. I like that. Just smile more, baby. I like that. So yeah, I'm very happy. I I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I'm just going to throw it out there.

Twenty twenty one draft class. First round. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, which guy right this second is playing the best football. Who won today? Which guy right this second is playing the best football? That's all I'm asking. I probably have to go with Mac then.

I'm going to go just just recency bars. All right. All right. That's fine. That's fine. I was just asking the question. I wasn't even giving my I'm going to go Trey Lance. OK, OK. Trey Lance look good till he got hurt. I'm just asking the question because the last few like last about like three weeks. Justin Fields, there has been there have been a lot of promising things.

Davis Mills. Yeah, Davis Mills. I just they're just starting to realize like, hey, this guy is such a good athlete. Let's run him like they even said it. They admitted after the Patriots game that they took some plays from the Baltimore Ravens playbook. It's like no fucking shit. Why didn't we do that?

I would be I would be concerned that it took this long to figure that out. I'm going to say something really crazy. If Matt Nagy was smart enough and he had run Justin Fields like they're doing the last few few games, he'd probably still have a job. Yeah. Like it's I don't know why sometimes coaches like can't figure out. Hey, this is what his skill set is. Let's let's adapt it to him. I get to do in the opposite.

I get the vibe that Matt Nagy didn't want. No, no. So it was like a big he was like throwing a hissy fit doing a protest. He's like, I'm not going to I'm not going to run the offense. You want me to run? Right. Right. So I yeah, I'm very happy. The Cowboys look great. I can't their defense kind of got gashed too because we ran for we've run for over 200 yards and three straight games.

But the cow deck looked good. Tony Pollard looked great with with no Zeke. I just yeah, I'm walking away from this game and I can't I can't be that bummed out. I know that probably some people are like want me to be. Oh, you know, you know, doom and gloom. This sucks. I'm being as honest as I can be. So I'm a happy guy right now on the other side of the football Dallas Cowboys. What is what is like success this year for Mike McCarthy to the point where he

won't get fired? Oh, that part sucked. By the way, Mike McCarthy laughing in the bear's face. Yeah, he's just so fat. Yeah, so but what's what's good for him? Like, I don't I don't think he necessarily would completely save his job just by making the playoffs. I think he needs to get I think he needs to get one night. I was going to say things.

I think he needs to get the NFC championship game. You're probably right. I think he needs to get the NFC championship game because yeah, because you're expected to win, although he would be on the road, both games, because if the Eagles win the NFC East. Yeah. And the kick goes out. The bills win by 10. So we ever got 10 great.

We ever got 10 and a half PFT congrats. Thank you. I still was happy. I did win the bills first half. I wish they just, you know, Josh Allen shouldn't have thrown that interception at the end. That's all. I think for the Cowboys, it comes down to how they lose in the playoffs. Right.

I think I think they could make it to the NFC championship game. But if Mike McCarthy does a thing where, like, you know, he tries to run a play with 13 seconds left and there's only enough time to run a play if there's like 17 seconds left on the clock. If they lose in a comically fat fashion, yeah, for Mike McCarthy, if he was brain just stops, if he looks extra fat while they lose because of a brain boner that he has, I think then Mike McCarthy will be fired no matter what in the playoffs, unless it's the Super Bowl.

I could see Jerry keeping him around if he makes it a Super Bowl no matter what. Yes. But if it's even in the NFC championship game, if he loses to like a skinnier, hey, oh God, if he lost to like Sean McVeigh in the NFC championship game because Mike McCarthy does something where his fat impedes his own brain. Right. Well, well, McVeigh is looking all gelled up and greased on the other side. Yeah, I could see Jerry Jones firing him.

I'd agree with that. I'd agree with that. OK, so yeah, I mean, the Cowboys are they're definitely in the contenders. Wouldn't you say in the NFC? Yep. Next up, Falcons Panthers, the sneaky, funny, funnest game of the day. Who would have thought? It's a great game. It was an awesome game. Oh, Aaron Rod. Oh, OK.

Is Aaron Rodgers not shaking Josh Allen's hand? No, they did a minute ago. OK, I was about to get on my high horse, start going after people. They're still jarring after. Oh, no, that's love. All right. Falcons 37, Panthers 34. This game was so much fun. Forty four points scored in the second half. PJ Walker with an absolute dime to DJ more with 15 seconds left, like 60 yards.

And then DJ Moore takes off his helmet, penalty. Eddie Pinheiro misses the extra point. Over time, Marcus Mario to throw his interception. Panthers are going to win again. Eddie Pinheiro misses the field goal. What, 34 yarder? The Panthers should have won this game. I bet David Tepper just slipped him like a few grand for missing those.

I don't do. They would have been in first place in the NFC South. That's true. They're frisky. That's true. And the Falcons deserve credit because they're very injured right now. Like you could tell their defense is very injured. But it was it was crazy because you thought both these teams aren't that great. And and I don't know the Panthers are not an easy out anymore. And the Falcons are the first place team in the NFC South going into November. I love that division. That's crazy.

That division is is crystal meth personified. It's crazy because I've we talked about the Falcons last week on the show. And I've spent precisely one week as a Falcon supporter. And I don't know how people from Atlanta do it. It's like like if you adopt the Falcons as your team, like you might you. You're the guy that gets a weird pet that gets like a porcupine in your own house. And it's like, oh, it's cute. Oh, it's just going to cause me severe pain all the time whenever I try to touch it.

This sucks rooting for the Falcons. But it's going to be tough. Yeah. And this game at the end of it, it was a contest to see which team was the most Falcons. It was the Falcons were really Falcons at the end there when they let the Panthers come back on that Hail Mary. And then the Panthers turned into the Falcons by missing the extra point after the 15 yard penalty. Then the Falcons became the Falcons again when Marriota threw that pick. And then the coup de gras was the Panthers becoming the Falcons again

with missing that a pen year old kick. I was so bad. And I want the Falcons to win the NFC South. I think it would be hilarious and awesome. And we like Arthur Smith a lot. I did bet on the Panthers plus four and a half this game. So I was I was rooting for the Panthers when it felt like they were about to give up the game in a horrific like they were. This game was close the entire time. And then they had the let's go for it on fourth and 17 on our own 10

and then give the Falcons a field goal. But yeah, I don't I hope the Falcons can sustain it. I hope they get healthy. I don't want to see that. I want the box to not make the playoffs like that's fun. Yeah. And guess what? Right now, if the if the season ended right this second, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would have the eighth pick in the draft. Is that crazy? Yeah, it's not.

So I'm I'm rooting for the Falcons. It does feel like the NFC South has like 10 more twists and turns. It would have been fun to seeing the entire division be three and five. Yeah, that would have been an awesome. I was rooting for a tie. Just yeah, I mean, yeah, a tie would have been perfect in this game. This game, you know how week one,

we said that we're awarding a tie to the Bengals and the Steelers because there were some wacky miss kicks at the end of that game, too. Yeah, I think that's what happened. Right. Joe Burrow against against Mitch. I think we gave them a tie. So we can give this our second part of my take tie of the week. We can award a tie to a team that end up losing each week. So congratulations to the Panthers.

I'm going to count this as a tie for you guys. I didn't remember where I knew Philip Walker from, but he was the best quarterback we call Philip Walker, PJ Walker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, last week, remember he and Taylor Heineke and PJ Walker beat Aaron Rodgers. XFL legends beat Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah.

He's he's awesome. I like him and he you could tell, too. The whole team likes him. You know what I mean? And they're playing for Steve Wilkes. They're playing for PJ Walker. I like it. I'm Panthers are going to be a fun team. Yeah, they're not an easy like you go through these ebbs and flows.

Vibes matter in the NFL. Yes. Yeah. And that rule was bad vibes. Very bad works. Great vibes. Yes. If you go through, you go through ebbs and flows and and like you can pick teams. You're like, oh, this team is going to be really, really bad. I think the Texans have finally reached their final like resting point of just being the worst. But the Panthers, they'll pick off another team at some point.

Yeah, because they are they are feisty and they play hard and their defense is not terrible. They're like a trap game. They're like a trap game every week. Yeah, I think every team that plays against them for the rest of the season is going to overlook them to a certain extent. Yeah, exactly. OK, so I now have Packers fans being like it wasn't the ass kicking that you thought it would be with the bills. That's loser talk Packers fans. Welcome to my world.

You're basically you're you're you're happy that you didn't get completely embarrassed in the second half. You or me, we're the same. A loss is a loss. I fucking love that. OK, speaking of the NFC South, let's stay with it. Saints, 24 Raiders, zero. So we have six TVs here. We realize that one of the the quad box they usually put on was a head

or sorry, was yeah, was ahead of the other TV. So we had to say we got to eliminate one game from all the TVs. We eliminated this game and goddamn, we'll rewrite because I didn't even realize this. I went back and I looked. The Raiders didn't get past the 50 yard line until three 15 left in the game. That is some like early season SEC versus a Mack School ship. Derek Carr didn't run a single play in Saints territory the entire game.

It's insane. They they had if you can if you take out the garbage time, it was 24 nothing and they brought in who they bring in. Oh, Stitum. Stitum. Stitum came in and they drove almost to score. If you take that drive out because it was completely meaningless with like five minutes left, the Raiders had nine first downs for 119 total yards of offense.

Nine first down for 119 yards and a shit load of three outs in the first two quarters, especially they just they couldn't do anything. Yeah, offensively. Here's a fun little stat, big cat. OK, let's hear Josh McDaniel. I think it's time that we have the National Josh McDaniel conversation. And we can zoom out a little bit on that, too, and look at it more as like a Bill Belichick assistant coaches conversation.

But for now, we'll start with Josh McDaniel. If you take away the sixth game winning streak that started McDaniel's career as a head coach for the Broncos, what do you think his record is as a head coach? It's bad. It's six and 20. Six and 20. Not good. And the reason why I'm OK with was saying after that six game start to that season, because his players have come out after the fact

and said we were cheating, we were videotaping our opponent's practices. And that's what we were using to get ready for games. We got a letter telling us to stop that. So we had to stop cheating. So without cheating, McDaniel McDaniels is six and 20 as a head coach. If you look at Belichick's former coaches that have gone on to coach in the NFL, their winning percentage

is 41 percent, not good. They're a combined two, 25, 319 and one. So that's a pretty big sample size. That's not just like two or three guys, two, 25, 319, one. Do you know who the best coach has been? The best head coach that has been a former Bill Belichick assistant coach? Hank, do you know? I would say no, Romeo had a Bill O'Brien.

Oh, is the peak? No, no, it's it's Bill O'Brien. Bill O'Brien, Bill O'Brien, Texas. It's it. Yeah. Good. Yeah. All J. Bill O'Brien was 52 and 48. And he's the best one. Just something to think about. That's not. I don't know what it is.

I've maintained for a while that Belichick just sends off these satellite coaches to go ruin other teams in the AFC and just destroy them to make it easier for him to win Super Bowls. Nepotism, that's why they're playing bad. That's why the Patriots are playing badly now. Yeah, you said it, not Mike. Hmm. Interesting. Well, I just think that that what you just said proves the exact opposite.

That Belichick is the secret. Yes. And his brain is the secret. And the coaches give the secret to anyone. He does. He because he won the Adams was a secret because Bill Belichick is going to give the secret to anyone. Probably his sons. There are certain things that you just can't replicate. And just because you spend enough time around a guy,

doesn't mean that you're going to be that guy when you go out on your own. Yeah. Remember, we asked Julian about it. Yeah. And he was like, yeah, a lot of guys try to be Belichick when they move into the new places and they just can't do it. Yeah. Yeah. They can't do it. And this this was like the Raiders coming off. I know it was the Texans, but they were coming off a win that it looked

like everything was kind of coming back together off of a bye week to get a goose egg and to have that. Derek Arias injured a little bit, but he has a back. We all have backs, but he has a back. He's a bad one. Wallers out. Devonte Adams was sick, not making excuses because you the Saints defense, they look like the Saints defense we all expected today,

but they have not been that defense all year. And you got a hundred and nineteen yards of offense. This is one with your with your first team offense. It was an offy and absolute one. This was a signature loss by the Raiders. Whereas before I was like, oh, the Raiders, I like that. Like you said, that you like your law. They can play with anybody before this game, right?

No, I think he's fine. Now I'm like, this team fucking stinks. This is a signature loss. They put their name on this one. I do think that just Derek Carr and Andy Dalton, General gave off big, like either one of those guys could end up having a at least like a two or three year career starting for the Colts. Yeah. Maybe next season.

Andy Dalton is a fine, nice guy, right? Nice guy. Yeah. The game was over when James Winston did that rap. The rap was incredible. The rap. Absolutely. Like the Raiders probably heard that. And they're like, well, it's like they saw the dragon, right? Hank. And then they're like, fuck that.

I'm turning around. I'm getting the hell out of here. I still want to get James on Pardon My Take. I hope he does come on some day. We can't play it for a season. Can you just wrap it for the for the listeners who might not have seen the clip? You want to wrap it, PFT? My name is James Winston. I'm here to say I got banned from Uber because I grabbed her on.

No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the thing was. All right. Do you know it? No, I was saying, I was saying, like, we would, you know, we'll just put it in, I guess. But I was asking if, you know, we could avoid the copyright. You could just it's a lot like the Malcolm Kelly freestyle after the big 12 champions. OK, well, let me look up the Malcolm Kelly freestyle. Well, what what James was saying, he did it.

I think he did the podcast with, I think Mark Ingram and someone else in the Saints has a podcast. James was talking about eating the dub. Yeah. And I realized like he just he's a leader, even though he's goofy. He was like, yeah, I really ate that tub. And they're like, yeah, it was kind of it was kind of weird. And he like paused and was like, no, no, no, but I I ate that dub. Like I meant it.

And he's just I just love James so much. And they have the Saints. Are they? I this is another game similar to the Denver game we're talking about with Bradley Chubb. There were rumors that Alvin Kamara is going to get traded. Yeah. So the bills inquired, the Eagles inquired, which I would love for the Eagles to do it just because the Eagles would essentially just trade back the pick that the Saints traded them.

That was what it would be for the Saints. The Eagles have the Saints first round pick in 2023. It would be hilarious. They're like, give us your best player and we'll let you have your pick back. Would be a very funny trade. That would be good. But either way, Alvin Kamara was incredible today. He did it all three touchdowns. He had that one touchdown where he scored and they were like raiders

were bouncing off of him and he just didn't even flinch. And he was just standing up. They were all like launching themselves at him and he was just standing up and casually put the ball over the goal line. Like this guy is awesome. The Saints should not trade him. Yeah. No, I agree. And they said that they they talked to the bills, but the Saints rebuffed the bills.

Yeah, which I don't I I'm not when we say like the whole just one ball thing. I don't always believe it. It's something that's fun to say. I do feel like there's something to the bill's offense in the way that it's running right now, incorporating a guy like Kamara, who who does need a shit load of touches to get going. Yeah, that might derail what the bills are doing offensively. Yes, it could.

It could happen. Yes, it might be one of those blessings like, you know, God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers. And I see, Max, you're just shaking your head. You don't want Alvin Kamara on your team. I don't want to give up a first round pick for overpaid running back. OK, all right. So there it is. He is very, very good, though, just so you know, he's actually the first

player with 10 games, having a rushing and receiving touchdowns in his first six season, no other player in the first six seasons of their career had a rushing 10 games with a rushing and receiving touchdown in the same game. He had two touchdowns on the ground, one in the air, 158 total yards. He was their entire Alvin Kamara beat the Raiders by himself. His offense, his offensive output was significantly larger than the Raiders first team offensive output because they scored zero points and had 119 yards.

That's how crazy this game was. We got a little taste of Hill action today, which was nice. Yeah. Yeah. So either way, good credit to us, because this game was the best game to not have on TV. Yep. Now it was we absolutely nailed it. OK, next game. Hey, did you have the lyrics yet for the James Winston thing? No copyright.

I'll just put it in. Yeah, OK. And she and my JJ doing everything we're going to have it out. We ain't got a bird of a king. Yeah, I'm talking about a team. New Orleans says, you know what I mean? Yeah, we got to represent the city up in here. We're doing everything in our mind.

Shit, it's here. Got to go hard. I got to go in and all we got to do is get a f***ing hit. I hope you got that. We are here. Let's go. Next game, we will talk about your Eagles Max Eagles 35 Steelers 13. This was an ass kicking. This was I feel bad for the Steelers because they kept on.

It looked. Jalen Hurts hitting AJ Brown on the go route for three touchdowns in the first half. They looked identical plays and they just he kept on just dropping in a bucket to AJ Brown. AJ Brown would have two, three Steelers on him, and it was so easy. And it was one of those games that if it felt like if the Eagles wanted to win by 100, they could have.

They kind of took their foot off the gas. But I will give. I always give credit to teams that don't have those let downs against inferior opponents and they just kick the shit out of the teams. They should kick the shit out of. Yeah, I think Roger Goodell needs to take a look at the taunting rule in the NFL because they called AJ Brown for a taunt when he he caught touchdown pass.

The two guys tried to tackle him, bounced off him, fell on the ground. AJ Brown was just standing in the air. A points at both of them. He goes, you couldn't guard me. You couldn't guard me. Very simple matter of fact, stated facts to the people. And then he got a flag called on him. Goodell likes to officiate things like if a hundred drunk guys in a bar

think it's a catch, then it should be a catch by the rulebook. A hundred drunk guys in a bar watch that play. Yeah, and they see him point at the guys and be like, I beat you. I beat you. Yeah. Ninety nine drunk guys would be like, that's fucking awesome. Yeah, don't flag that. Don't flag it. I want to look. I want a public apology from, you know, how he likes to leave notes

in people's lockers being like, yeah, you had a great game. Tyreek Hill, let me get that piss. I want a note left in A.J. Brown's locker being like, upon further review, that kicked ass. Yes, sorry. He was just he was just he was just pointing out a fact. Yeah, I own you and you. You can't go.

This is this is the third time we've run the same. Yeah, you haven't done anything to stop. Yeah, he's lucky. He didn't do anything worse than that. It was. I think that was the third one. He showed tremendous restraint. It's the same go route and the same perfect pass from Jalen Hertz for a touchdown.

And he's just like, you and you go home. And actually, Mike, Tom and Bench, one of them. Yeah, so he did them a favor. He was telling Mike, these guys can't guard that guy on the ground. He can't guard me, Mike. What a gentleman. He was being nice. Yeah, that was that was a total shit pumping.

I've got a stat here. OK, Eagles second quarters this season. Oh, yeah. This updated stat, because I saw that Field Yates tweeted out some old numbers at the start of the day. So I personally updated it. The Eagles in the second quarter this year, they've scored 126 points. The Steelers in total this year have scored 120 points

and they've played an extra game over the Eagles. So the Eagles are just they're just dominant in the second quarter. Dominant. They're absolutely dominant. Not so great sometimes in the second half, but they don't need to be. They just get up huge on you and then they just play smart football in the second half. Max, you're probably are we greasing up the telephone poles? Are we just going to leave the poles greased from after the Phillies win the World Series until the Super Bowl?

Um, no, I mean, I'm worried about a worried about a baseball series right now. That was perfect. Like go take care of business. Don't worry about the game. Beat the shit out of them. And let's go win a baseball series this week, because it was beautiful. Oh, this is just. It was. It wasn't even.

Oh, I didn't even think about it. I walked in and I saw Jalen Hertz, A.J. Brown, two toddies back to back. I'm like, all right, we're good. Yeah, but let's let's calm down. Let's get ready for let's get ready for this week, because the birds are going to take care of business and it's going to be fine. And Mike Trout was there.

It was. Yeah, it was like the Eagles went down and scored. You're like, OK, this is going to be easy. Then the Steelers did some a little frisky stuff. They had the Chase Claypool to Derek Watt touchdown. Congrats, Hank. You cash your bet. That had to feel nice. Yeah, it's surely is Chase Claypool actually left handed. I don't know. I can't figure out if that was.

The way that I have to imagine Steelers, offensive meetings are going now is basically like a brainstorm session. They meet in a room that's got a bunch of beanbags and they say, OK, there are no bad ideas here. Let's try to rethink everything that you know about how to play football and we'll try whatever you want. Yes, just just give it to us. But it was funny because the Steelers went on a long drive,

scored a touchdown with these trick plays and the Eagles, it felt like the Eagles were like, oh, OK, so you guys actually want to try a little bit. We'll just do this and then they just did the same play two more times in the first half and that was it. It was never they never look back. It never felt in doubt the Eagles. I know people are going to say they don't. They haven't played anyone.

I would push back and be like the Cowboys, even with Cooper Rush. Their defense is still very good. And the Vikings are the second best team record wise in the NFC right now. And the Eagles ship pumped them. But yeah, this one was not. It wasn't fair. Listen, it wasn't fair. The Eagles play who they play and they've beaten the fuck out of everybody that they played. And if you look at their schedule for the rest of the year,

they're not playing a whole lot of great teams. They're not. They don't do their schedule. So they play the Cowboys in Dallas. I like that. They don't do their schedule. They don't make it themselves. They play the Cowboys in Dallas. They're hosting the Packers. And besides that, like Titans, Titans, I think are it's because it's

track or pseudo season coming up. Yeah, started today, I think, but we can get to that later. Yeah. Yeah. And they have the Super World Series Mega Week in Houston. Yes. Short week. The Super World Series Mega. I like that, Jake. Yeah. Assuming the series goes back to Houston.

The Super Mate. Yeah. You know what sucks, though? We're not going to get an announcer talking about like, oh, I took the monorail from Minute Maid Field out to the NRG Stadium or whatever. Works out for the fan, though. It does. Yeah. That's important. Yeah. It's going to be a Philly takeover in Houston on Thursday. If. Yeah, we got to get the maybe the Phillies will just close out.

We'll talk some baseball a little bit later. I know that you're on high alert, very nervous. But yeah, this game didn't have much more other than it's the Eagles are very, very good in the Steelers. It feels like they just shift each week to see which wide receivers pissed off. I saw Claypool was throwing his helmet at the end. It's I'll say something nice about Pittsburgh. I love the city of Pittsburgh.

They're not used to losing like this because they are losing and they're losing badly this year. This is I mean, it's going to be Mike Tomlin's first sub 500 season. Yeah. And the way they're losing, it's it's welcome to the rest. Welcome to our side. It's nice like having having someone have to dip their Hank kind of did it at the beginning of the show. Having other franchises have to dip their toes into the bad side of the NFL.

It's not so much fun. It's funny. I asked Jersey Jerry what he thought was going to happen this offseason because we don't think the time we talk about Tomlin maybe being on a hot seat. They're probably not going to fire him because it's Pittsburgh. They don't fire anybody. But Jerry was like, yeah, they're probably not going to fire Tomlin, but they're really going to clean house after this season. That's the most Pittsburgh game ever.

It's like, yeah, everyone's getting fired, except the head coach. Yeah, we have to keep him just to remind everyone that this the Pittsburgh series have had three head coaches since we landed on the moon in 1966. Yeah, Chuck, no, three Bill Cower, Mike Tomlin. That's it. We just got coaches. Yeah. Three of them. Have there been more leaders of North Korea or Pittsburgh Steelers head coaches since 1969?

I think equal. Yeah. Kim Jong-un, Kim Il-sung. It's pretty sad to think, too. Like our franchise is like we I think we can go back less than a decade to get to four. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Four head coaches in the Tresman was 2000. His last year was 2014.

So Tresman, John Fox, Matt Nagy, and now Eberfluss. So, yeah, that's four in in 10 years. Yep. Mike Shanahan, Jay Gruden. Jay Gruden had a long run. Yeah, he did. He had a nice little run. He had Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Maybe greatest quarterback in Redskins history in the last 30 years.

We'll get to that. Hineke. Yeah, well, we'll get to that. He's the best ever. OK, before we go to the afternoon slate, let's do another ad. And then we have four more games to get to. Yes, we're going to get to more football in a second. But these NFL Sunday recaps are brought to you by Norton VPN. There's no sign of identity theft slowing down.

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You guys want to do any slanderous rumors about about Jake one of his teams or something? We didn't do anything like that. Yeah, why are you still going to listen? Rent free, bro. You didn't listen. We live. You never listen. We said Blake Griffin. He asked PFT and I for one of the great starter jackets that we now have on sale

that are incredible. So Blake Griffin will probably be wearing him walking into a game soon. And he we said, can you pump up Hank? And he said, the Celtics team is the best team I've ever played on. He said that he literally literally said that on the show. And then you don't listen back. And we said, you thought we were slandering you and now I got on your face. Apologize to us and thank us at the same.

If that's true, I do apologize and thank you. Apology, not accepted. Yes, thank you. OK, would you? Big F. That's a big F. Big F. Big F. OK, listen back. OK, Titans, Texans, Titans 17, Texans 10.

Tractor Cito season is officially here. He had jakes back from his poop. He had two hundred and nineteen jakes back from his poop. You OK, Jake? Yeah. What are you doing, Jake? P number one, number one, he's given number one. He had two hundred and nineteen yards, two touchdowns. This is one of the two games that we said this in the Commanders and Colts

should not have been an afternoon game. It did not have afternoon game vibes at all. But Derek Henry just dominated the Texans and he always dominates the Texans. So the last four times that he's played the Texans, he has run for eight hundred and ninety two yards and nine touchdowns. So bad if he played. What is that noise? It's a sounds like a cop car.

If he played if Derek if Derek Henry was allowed to play a 17 game season just against the Texans, he would run for three thousand seven hundred and ninety one yards and thirty eight touchdowns. That's what he's done the last four games just against the Texans. He has he also is the now tied for the lead with two great guys, Adrian Peterson and O.J. Simpson for most two hundred yard games in NFL history with six. You think it'd be more than that, but no.

Tractor Cito, four straight games, a hundred yards. He is fucking awesome. So most games in NFL history with two hundred rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns. Oh, three. LaDanian Tomlinson, he had three. Barry Sanders also had three. Jim Brown also had three.

And then in first place is Derek Henry only against the Texans with four crazy. And then overall, Derek Henry has six of those games, crazy, four of which have come against the Houston Texans. He just absolutely owns. What are you guys giggling about? What are you guys giggling about? Fucking we have this new graphics kid making thumbnails for the YouTube. Go go look at the YouTube and he sent it to me, Max and memes.

And I'm in the thumbnail with my face, fat as fuck. Oh, you got a question. I go, I go, why did you fatten my face? And he goes, that's one of the notes. And I just said, interesting. I also don't think that was one of the notes. Listen, this is like a new. No, I mean, I don't know if it's for no way.

There's no way that this kid that we just hired made that on his own with memes and the fucking memes that it means. Knows that that fattening people's faces and thumbnails plays. It's it happens to all of us. No, I know. I just, you know, I just wanted to get to the bottom. This kid is definitely shitting himself right now. No, I don't. I know it wasn't him.

I know it was. I know it was me. This is smart for engagement. Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll have to pose a fat face. Yeah, now we have to. You did it yourself. Yeah. So, yeah, Tractor Seto season has officially begun. They were basically just like, hey, Malik Willis, it's your first start.

Just give the ball to the guy that owns the Houston, Texas. One single pass attempt in the second half. Pretty good. Pretty good game plan. It was Malik. Willis was six or 10 for 55 yards. He had four. The Titans had 40 yards, pass yards, net pass yards. So I had Evan, who does some of our stats.

That whole does some stuff to shut up both those guys. He I had him look up the fewest pass yards in a win in a dome win, because obviously, Mac Jones, what do you have last year? Like 17 yards or something, whatever it was. Fewest pass yards in a dome win. Chris Winky. I just had to mention Winky because he's a legend. Once beat with the Panthers,

once beat the Falcons in 2006 with 11 net pass yards. That's pretty cool. He went four for seven for 32 yards. Did you send it, Hank? Hank does look fat as shit in that picture. Oh, yeah, I like this. Wait, where's Jake? Oh, you look so fat.

I look skinny compared to that. Yeah, nice. Wait, this guy works quick. I'm wearing this right now. Yeah, this is my face from right now. He's watching. How did that happen? I actually don't know the answer to that.

He's probably watching. Because I sent him the whatever, whatever. You sent him a picture? Yeah, the beginning of the show, I sent it. I sent that. OK, so yeah, that was that was my only. I just any time I can mention Chris Winky, I have to. So he wants to win a game with 11 net pass yards.

He was four for seven for 32 yards passing. That's pretty pretty impressive. Yeah, that's that's pretty fun. Malik Willis had a QBR of 4.5 and still one. Yeah, yeah. And and I think we can officially say the Texans are the worst team in the NFL. I think it's safe to say I I gave the Texans out

as my lock of all locks because I was like, hey, Malik Willis going against Lovey Smith. Yep. He'll probably be able to at least cover the spread. My my deep numbers didn't look into the fact that tractor-cito season had begun today. Yeah. And so if I if anybody had even given me

an inkling of the fact that the Houston Texans are Derek Henry's personal bitch, I probably would have made that my bed of the week. Yeah. But I didn't have the luxury of deep diving deep into the numbers to realize that Derek Henry is good at football. Yeah. So I think this is the start of something good for the Titans

and for Derek Henry, and they'll get to a place where they feel good about themselves going into playoffs where Ryan Tannehill will then choke it away for them. Yes, here's what we're going to do for the Texans going forward. We're just going to remind you of your draft picks because that's really all you have to do. Like if I were a Texans fan right now, after every Sunday,

I would just pull up the future draft picks and just look at it and stare at it, maybe even print it and put it on my refrigerator. Do that if you're a Texans fan. They have two first round picks next year. They have three in the third round. They have like five in the sixth round. And then in 2024, they also have two first round picks. So just keep thinking about that.

Yeah. You have four, four first round picks coming in the next two years. Just print those out, watch the Browns lose like Monday night. Just root against the Browns. That's actually just as good as like, imagine if the Browns really crater and the Texans get like the first and second or first and third. That would be pretty fun.

Yeah. And you don't have Jack Easterby anymore. Yeah, that's huge. Right now, the Browns would have or sorry, the Texans would have the second and the seventh pick. Yeah. Oh, that's pretty cool. And it's also probably pretty cool to watch the Cardinals lose because you're like, oh, yeah, we lost some of our great players that are over there, but at least they're not winning behind my back.

Right. Exactly. So just do that. If you're if you're a Texans fan, I want to see, I want to see someone print out the picks you have upcoming. Put it on your refrigerator. Look at it every day because we always talk about hope in the NFL. This is why going back to not to keep going back to the Jaguars. But like, that's why I was talking about how demoralizing a loss

like today is because the stages of being bad, being bad with a shitload of draft picks is not a terrible place to be in. That's hope. You're holding hope. And yeah, maybe the draft picks aren't good, but you don't know that yet. All right, so I'm trying to figure that out. So we have announced that his tractor-cito season. There might be a weak break that we take in tractor-cito season because they're playing at the Chiefs Sunday Night Football next week.

Yeah, although is that tractor-cito season? I know that the Titans have played well against the Chiefs in the past, but that is a game where it's like if if the Chiefs go up 14, nothing. Yeah, you can't do anything. It might be a problem. Yes, you can't really play from from behind and have Derek Henry get like 35 carries. It would be cool if they just did that, though. They should. Yeah. Yeah, you should do that. Yeah.

You just say, fuck it, we're going to hand the ball to Derek Henry, no matter what. Yeah, exactly. OK, so next game, commander's cults. Billy, you're back on the hot seat. Let's start, though, again, with the winner. Taylor Heineke is so much fun, as bad as he played for the first half. Game winning drive. He's so much I I find myself rooting for Taylor.

You can't help but root for him. He's he's fun. He's just he never gives up on anything. He's always trying to make a play. He's the very definition of trying to make a play. He did the thing where he pointed down field several times today and he didn't do anything stupid. That's always what you what you fear when he points his finger down field. It usually means he's about to make the most electric throw of all time

or do something stupid as fuck right into anything that's stupid on those plays. It was it was great. He knows just like throw the ball to Terry McLaurin, because if it's a 5050 ball to Terry McLaurin, here's a stat for you, I and Eagle, Terry McLaurin catches 95 percent of all 5050 balls thrown his way. Yeah, it's incredible. And he he's from Indianapolis. It was a personal revenge game, which I don't I guess the cults didn't pick them.

Yeah, or he wasn't. But he did go off. He wasn't recruited out of high school to play for the Colts. Colts, yeah, but I like I like the the angle. Yeah, that his overs. It's just he was all coming. You have your family there. You have your friends from high school.

It was smart to bet the overs on that one. Taylor Heineke is is the perfect quarterback to root for in this situation that I find myself in right now, because I don't think he's going to be the future starter of the team based on how he plays sometimes early on in games. Yeah. But he's probably my favorite backup quarterback. And he is so much fun. He's a good guy. You can't help but root for him.

And I did some some digging into the Washington Redskins football team commanders quarterback history. Heineke right now is now nine and eight as a starter. He's above 500. There's only one other starter in this team's history. And since the turn of the century, since the Dan Snyder era truly began, that is over 500. And that's Alex Smith. Wow.

So Taylor Heineke is now the second best quarterback in Redskins football team commanders history under Dan Snyder. I have another staff for you that you're going to like. The commander's Redskins football team. Now, this is a misleading stat because a lot of teams will if they're if they're down late, we'll lose the game. That's just how it works. But since 2000, the commander's football team Redskins

are one in one hundred and twenty eight one win one hundred and twenty eight losses when trailing by multiple scores in the final five minutes of the game. Taylor Heineke just did the second one. First one was Mark Brunel. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, don't tell me Mark Brunel against the Dallas Cowboys. Money Night Football. Two touchdown passes and Santana Moss.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. And that's so there's Taylor Heineke. He just won one in one twenty eight. He changed that. That's incredible. Yeah, he's fun, man. And listen, I'll be completely realistic about this because the Colts should have won this game.

They had two fumbles, I think, inside the twenty five yard line. They gave this game away. They made stupid mistakes. But our defense came up big when we we caused some turnovers. It's not like they were just given to us. If we proved that it wasn't just Matt Ryan, maybe that was the problem with fumbles. Maybe maybe the entire team. Yeah, just coughing the ball up a little bit.

Yeah. And Frank Reich played like a chicken shit head coach. That was afraid of getting fired. Yes. So he's and he's going to get fired. Frank Reich was taking the points today. Yeah, big time. He's like, I'll take the points. I don't care.

He kicked field goals from the Washington 21 when it was fourth and three. He kicked it on the two yard line on fourth and goal. And then he punted on fourth and inches with two minutes, 45 seconds left to go. So Frank Reich, chicken shit football, trying not to get fired, which is actually probably going to make it more like. Yeah, no, he's definitely getting fired. By the way, before you do this, Sam Allen, your talk, Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose. Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose.

The Los Angeles Lakers have won a basketball game. All right, let's go for that. Let's go, Bron. Good for our colleague, Pat, Pat Beverly. They are one in five. They beat your nuggets. Oh, fuck. Wait, I didn't agree to that.

One twenty one to one ten. It's bullshit. Yeah, that's bullshit. NBA rigged. Yeah, Billy, you're up. You you had a huge Sunday. Between the Jets versus Patriots and Sam Elger finally starting. It started off promising, too, because Trevor Lawrence looked bad.

Yeah. And now where are you? They lost the game. He won 17 for twenty three, two hundred one yards. No touchdown passes, but also no interceptions for a first start. Yeah, that's not that bad at all. And honestly, from the first first three downs he played, he had a span out and through an incompletion, but hit the guy right in the chest on a very athletic sort of high energy electric type play.

He got that out. And then his last pass at the end of the game was a good pass was a good one. Hit the guy right in the hands. He dropped it. And then he had it completion to finish off the game. They held him inside and the clock ran out like, you know, he did his job, he didn't turn the ball over and he made plays and made some, you know, there was some sparks where you could see that, you know,

maybe down the line, stuff starts happening. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a it was better than Zach Wilson's first start. Yes. So Billy, actually, I'm glad that you brought up Zach Wilson. Would you give up Zach Wilson right now for Sam Elger? How deep into this take are you? I'm deep into both of these takes really, really deep. You can only be deep in one. It's like holes.

Well, I'm just saying it as a guy who doesn't throw interceptions. No, I'm talking holes. Which whose hole are you inside of? I'm in both holes. You can't very deep. And if I want to make a tunnel between the two of the holes and make a tunnel system, pick one hole. OK, then Sam Elger would probably go to the Jets.

Give let's give Zach. Whoa. So yeah, so that's a big big thing. You just said, oh, my God, I'm hearing back. Oh, you backed you backed me. I'm going to take it back. You have five seconds to get back back to me for I'm not taking it back to one. And it's permanent. It's permanent. Not the guy.

Zach Wilson, Zach Wilson, Zach Wilson in Jersey. I make it permanent. I just I just said, as a guy who doesn't throw interceptions, that's the kind of guy you want as your quarterback. Yeah, I mean, we're seeing it worse right now. Yeah, you're you're you're filling in his hole. It is 1 a.m. right now. No, 12 05 a.m.

And I have 3 a.m. 3 a.m. Also, your belly is filled with prime rib. Yes. Oh, sorry, filet mignon. You had filet mignon for dinner tonight. Skewers skewers. Yeah. Not a filet mignon. It was skewers. The cults are just sad.

Yeah. And I think everyone's getting fired. I think Chris Bowler is getting fired. I think Frank Reich is getting fired. I don't know what like the team. It feels like they've always been they've diluted everyone to be like, we're just one quarterback away and they've made the mistake of just keep going with old quarterbacks. And then also the roster is just not as good as it was meant.

Like, yeah, you can't permanently be one quarterback away. Right. And they have to change up. They have the problem is they have some really good play. Yeah. They've quit Nelson. They've John Taylor. Shaquille Leonard was back. I don't Shaquille. I wish he was still Darius, but I respect that he's Shaquille now because every time I look, I'm like, oh, who's this guy?

He was awesome. But yeah, they're they're just not a good good team overall. They're not. They're not. And the commanders are in a place where I think now that we've positioned ourself to finish about 500 for the season is what that's my prediction. Dude, the commanders are frisky. Which is a playoff. It's BFT. They could. I'm saying like they're OK.

So their division, the NFC beast. Yeah. If listen, if the commanders played in the NFC south, they would be kings. I'd be the king of the south right now. But the East, it's like the Giants and the Cowboys are both six and two. Philadelphia is going underfeagled this season. I don't see them. It's going to give you your path.

You know, it would be awesome. I would. Yes, I want to hear about a path. I'm going to give you your path. I've started to think about a path. I just think it would be it would be cool if every team in the NFC East got into the playoffs this year. Yeah, that would be cool. I'm going to give you your path, though.

You ready for your path? Uh huh. You got to beat the Giants twice. Yeah. Can you do it? No, no, we never beat the Giants twice. OK, so you play the Giants two weeks in a row with a buy in between. It's weird, but I'm looking at your schedule right now. If you beat the Giants twice, I think there is absolutely a way that you guys can get to nine wins.

So there it is. OK, nine wins. You would probably maybe get you in the playoffs, the NFC, maybe. Can we win this flex scheduling start? Um, I think it's in a couple of weeks. Is it next week? Because if we can somehow flex Kirk Cousins into the 425 time slot, I think that's a good shot for us. Week 11. Week 11.

Right. Oh, daylight savings week 11. Yeah. OK, what's that date? Because we've got daylight savings wrong a lot. So week 11 is what day? That would be, I believe, like the 13th. All right, so remember to change your clocks on the 13th. November 13th. Yeah.

I just like to apologize to America for having this game on at 425. Yeah, it was fucked up. The commander should never be on at 425 ever. Yeah, I don't think it's ever happened before. It'll probably never happen again. This this team has huge one PM energy at the most of 405 kickoff. 425 is just it. I'm sitting around waiting for the commander's game to start in the afternoon.

Yes, America should not have to go through. Yeah, so I do apologize, but I won't. I won't apologize for winning. Yeah, I'd like to correct myself. It can be changed twice between weeks five and 10. Oh, interesting. Yeah. OK, let's go to the next game. We have two left.

This next game, I'm very excited to talk about because I'm dubbing this. The narrative stolen game. And that's Seahawks 27 Giants 13. The narrative has officially been stolen. I think the Seahawks are now what the Giants were in terms of the fun team that no one saw coming. They win this game kind of easily. Like their their defense, the Seahawks defense, by the way,

Tariq Wollin, their fifth round pick, who's been insane as a cornerback, like Daniel Jones, I think, threw to him once today. The Seahawks defense outside of the garbage time touchdown they give up to the Chargers last week. They've given up nine, 16 and 13 points in the last three weeks. And Gino Smiths playing well and they're taking shots at Russell Wilson after every win, which I fucking love. They what was the quote?

It said it's amazing. Who said that it was Lockett, right? He said, it's amazing what we can accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit. That was a shot at Russell Wilson. But the Seahawks are the team now. I'm not saying the Giants are dead. We'll talk about them in a second.

But the Seahawks are the team that no one saw coming. They're now number one. They're in first place, the NFC West. They look for real kind of like they kind of look for real. And they are the fun team. I think they look really for real. And guess what? I know Brian Dabel, we already gave our coach of the year votes.

We split them between Brian Dabel and Arthur Smith. We already mailed that into the league offices. Pete Carroll is definitely in the conversation for coach of the year. This team was supposed to be one of the worst teams, the NFL. They I think we quoted it last week. Their over under for wins was five and a half. They're five and three right now. You know why that that was their win total, though?

I think it was heavily figured on the Drew Lock situation. Yeah, I think we were all in our in our estimations or simulations that I was running in my brain. I was seeing Drew Lock being the quarterback of this team. And if you had told me, Geno Smith would be the starter. I think I would I would say, OK, I'm not saying that I would. I would still write Geno Smith off, but I wouldn't write him off as hard as I would write to lock off.

And that's actually part of why Pete Carroll should be thought about coach of the year, because I would think most NFL coaches would pick the younger guy who still has like, oh, maybe maybe if things work out. Geno Smithson is what ninth year, tenth year in the NFL. There wouldn't be a lot of coaches that would be like, you know what, let's go with Geno Smith. He's better, maybe his upsides not there,

but he's just the better quarterback. And we're going to try to compete this year. And Pete Carroll even said after he said, we look like we used to look in the stadium was rocking like it used to rock. And it's like I was watching that game being like, I think I think the Seahawks might actually be pretty good. Yeah, the Seahawks are not great. They're pretty good. They're very good.

And what Pete Carroll has always been awesome at is evaluating talent and figuring out, OK, I know that we just signed Matt Flynn to a huge contract. But Russell Wilson is clearly a better quarterback when he's in the door. So we're going to start him over the big price tag guy. That's what he did again this time. He's great at identifying defensive talent, too. Yeah, because they're defense. They're young guys on defense.

I've I've heard a few of the guys like Marshawn Lynch had said, these guys look, they remind me of the Legion of Boom. You have a tree calling is is has been every every bit as good as sauce garden. They're building this team very similar to how they built their team back in like 2013, 2012, which is have an awesome secondary, great tackling in your linebackers, a solid defensive line. And then hopefully a quarterback that won't kill you, which is what Russell Wilson was at the start and then just put together an offensive line

out of what's laying around. Yeah, that's kind of how they operate. Oh, and then like a strong running back that will make your weak offensive line look good, right? And that's that's the Seahawks way elite wide receivers. Yeah, like, I mean, I I love that moment in the game when they called that play for Tyler Lockett and he just dropped the easiest touchdown ever. I think it was like two plays later.

They called the same play hit him in the face and they're like, here you go. Do it again. Catch it this time. And he did. And it was I. Yeah, I don't I kind of believe in the Seahawks. Like I know that the 49ers have more talent. I know the Rams are Super Bowl champs, all that stuff. I just I'm done thinking the Seahawks are like a little nice story. I think they can they can absolutely rip off.

I'm going to say 10 wins, maybe it's possible wins. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. They get to play the Cardinals again. Yeah, I'm going to count that as a win for. Yeah, they I mean the Bucks win. Win Raiders win. After this win. Maybe not. Panthers, that'll be a weird one.

Yeah, Panthers. And yeah, that'll be a weird game that will 49ers. Lost night game could be rocking. Yeah, at home. Oh, it's at home at home. I'm just saying they put on the neon green. Lumen field, Gino Smith, by the way, crowd noise. Gino Smith has six games with multiple touchdowns this year. He had seven in his entire nine year career before that.

So he's he's playing very good football. The Seahawks also have a very powerful chip that they can cash in at any time, which is just going into the season. They literally were written off by everybody when a lot of teams try to find like what's our motivation going to be? What's your bulletin board material? Nobody believes in us.

Half the time like Nick Saban is great at making that shit. Yeah, he's like finding one random message board comment on like Hogville in Arkansas and being like, see this guy. See, see, call the call the hogs for 2069. He doesn't think that you guys can score 40 points. Right. I don't score 50. The Seahawks actually have a lot of disrespect that everyone's given them that they can legitimately use to fuel them through

and and on top of all of that, this has to have been like a complete revelation this season. I know the Broncos won today, but with the way the Broncos have been playing, the way that everyone has been clowning Russell Wilson. It's basically like they got out of a relationship and they're like, see, it wasn't us. It was him. Yeah. They just keep getting validated over and over that like, no, he was the crazy one, not us. Russell Wilson gas lit the fuck out of Seahawks right now.

Yeah, it's got to feel great. And they're learning that they're OK. Yeah. Yeah. Like we can we we're OK with Gino Smith. He's he's it's really nice to be in a relationship with someone that just loves you back Seahawks. It wasn't your fault. It was not your fault. It didn't work out. The only other note I had from the Seahawks side was Pete Carroll got a bumping

into the ref flag. I love it. Very funny. I love it. And it was just like his expression afterwards was vintage Pete Carroll. I just I loved every second of that. So the Giants, I have door one and door two for Giants fans. Door one is that the Giants have been a very lucky team and they are now playing teams that are better than them. And when they don't play perfect football, they muff two punts, I think, when they don't play perfect football, they really don't have a ton of talent.

And you could see it today like Daniel Jones had no one to throw to. Saquon Barkley was getting stuffed. It looked painful for them to move the ball. The shoe might have dropped like on New York football this weekend. That's door one. Door two, which I'm inviting Giants fans to walk into and completely fine. If you choose this door, it's just they went to London. Then they came back home, played a very emotional game against the Ravens,

win that game late, go down to Jacksonville. Same thing. Last second win, then they had to fly all the way across country to Seattle. This was a very flat spot for them. You got to just go home, lick your wounds, get back at it. You're still six and two. You still can absolutely make the playoffs. Don't worry about it.

One game is not a big deal. I would take door two because you're going to make the playoffs. And you also have the Texans and the Lions next. So you should door two. I'm just one of those are the two doors you're thinking about. You're doing door two. Yeah, you're doing door two for sure. Because but you know door one door one exists in the back right.

And actually, I think both doors can exist and you can take both of them. Yeah, I feel like it's two ends of the same wormhole because door one is probably how your season will end up ending. Right. In a loss in the playoffs. And you probably know that and you're probably fine with that. If you're a Giants fan, you know that you might get lucky and win. If everything goes your way because you are a well coached team, you could win whatever your first game of the playoffs might be.

But then you run into a really good team in the second round and you probably won't be able to beat that great team. Probably not. Unless everything goes your way. So it's like it's a realistic thing that you can think you can hold both those thoughts and you're at the same time. Also, this by week is going to kick ass for you guys because it was a tough loss. But also you're six and two going into the by week six and two.

And we've been talking about teams that like will get their shit pushed in by the by week. I feel like the Giants, they're they're going to have the best by week of all time. Like, you're table is going to make the by week want to join up with him and then take them on in the future. And like, this is all the lessons we learned in the by week. Let's keep this thing. I forgot that they had the by week, which makes the spot even flatter too. Because like, you're like, all right, we can get through this.

And then we just we have a week off. And so, yeah, if you're a Giants fan, go through door two because you're playing the Texans, the Lions after the by week. Yeah. Door one might be something you have to revisit when you play the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day. Yeah, you're going to that might be a time where like, oh, this isn't this might not be what we thought it was.

I mean, I'm going to tell some words to Giants fans that should make everything fine. You're going to win 10 games this year. Yeah. Yeah. You're definitely going to win. Yeah. At six and two, they definitely have four more wins on the schedule. But this this game was it was painful to watch because it was even though they were in it and it was like, oh, is this magic just going to keep happening? And then when they got down to scores, like they got nothing to get back in this game. Like there's no chance to get back in this game.

Everything has to go exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. You can't make any of the special teams mistakes. That's really the thing. It's like you can't have interceptions and you can't have any sort of special teams turnover. Right. And you should be able to at least keep it within one score of any team. Because I was in the second half when it was a tie game. I was like, they're going to do this again.

They just keep winning these games. And then the air kind of came out of the balloon. OK, let's go with the last game, Roback game. Roback game is brought to you by Roback. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. I'm wearing the joggers right now. Super, super comfortable performance joggers. They're amazing. Q zips, polos, hoodies as wearing it all weekend.

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The Christian McCaffrey show. This is when we had that talk about how do we need to see an all star MVP type running back in Kyle Shanahan system because he can just spit out running backs and we're like, no, you know what? We do want to see it. And then he got traded the next day. This is what we wanted to see. Yeah, this is awesome.

This was so fucking awesome. Christian McCaffrey threw a touchdown, caught a touchdown, ran for a touchdown. Last guy to do it was LT 2005. I think there's only three guys who've done it ever. Walter Payton, I know, did. Yeah. So the third guy ever to do it. And it basically, I don't want to say Kyle Shanahan did this on purpose. Yeah, but the Rams were the other team that were trying to get Christian McCaffrey

and he basically was like, oh, you wanted this. Well, let me show you how let me show you all the moves he's got. Yeah. And he fucking flashed all the moves for them. It's great. It was it was so cool. It's like a kid getting a toy on Christmas or like, I remember one year I got I got new baseball cleats for Christmas and I wore them like everywhere. I wore them like out to 7-Eleven later on that day.

Yeah, I couldn't stop thinking about how cool my new baseball cleat. Like this was his new toy and he's like, I'm going to use it in every way possible. Yeah, I'm going to put my roller blades on in the house. Yeah, I'm going to have so much fun. Yeah, I'm going to have so much fun with this new thing. And it was awesome. It was everything that we wanted. This was so cool and he looks fast in that uniform, too.

I think the 23 makes him look faster. The red makes him look faster. All of his his hamstrings find now, yeah, which is great. Like it's weird how that happens. You go out, get some some California air in you. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, none of the soft tissue stuff. I would like to see Sean McVeigh run Aaron Donald in his offense, like Kyle Shanahan's run in Christian McCaffrey.

Yeah, just like run, just but just power, just like run at people's faces. Because yeah, I mean, this is another one where the Rams even going into half. They look like, oh, OK, this might be different. And then it was just the same old story, Kyle Shanahan owns Sean McVeigh. I know that people will point to the NFC championship game. I will say that the 49ers still covered that game. But yes, that is true. They did win on the way to the Super Bowl.

They did win that game. But in terms of regular season, Jimmy Garoppolo is never lost to the Rams, which is crazy. He's eight. No. In the regular season is also a crazy stat that probably doesn't help the Jimmy Garoppolo fans out there. Christian McCaffrey, his touchdown pass was 30 plus air yards. There have been three touchdown passes by 49ers

throwers in the last since 2020 to go for 30 plus air yards. Christian McCaffrey, Trey Lance, C.J. Bethard. Oh, that sucks. I thought you were going to say Dibo. I thought Dibo had one of those. No, but that's like that's one of those ones I saw. And I was like, oh, boy, that's why Kyle Shanahan and Trey Lance. Counterpoint is when you're throwing the ball 30 plus yards in the air,

it's kind of a drive killer. Yes, right back to your opponent. If you're Jimmy Jean, you're running for like six yards of clip. It takes a lot of time off the clock. And then that helps your defense get rested, too. Yeah, it's like hitting like a three run homer. Rather have a double in the gap. Rally killer. Keep it going.

Here's a fun stat. Twenty one percent of Kyle Shanahan's wins are over Sean McFadden. That's crazy. That's a lot of percent. That's a lot of percent before the game on ESPN. They did the whole Mike Shanahan coaching tree. And it was like a nine minute long segment talking about all these coaches that were on that 2013 Redskins team. I just want to read one paragraph from an article that I found

from Jason Locke and for talking about how bad this Redskins staff was and how their experience was costing them games. Yeah, it's just one paragraph from here. The quarterbacks coach, Matt LaFleur, worked with Kyle Shanahan in Houston and had only two years experience as an offensive assistant, scare quotes, with the Texans prior to becoming the Redskins QB coach. Similarly, receivers coach Mike McDaniel was a lower level assistant on the Texan staff before coming to Washington and tight ends coach

Sean McVeigh's only prior NFL experience to joining Washington came in 2008 as an offensive assistant in Tampa. This is an article saying this coaching staff sucks. It's Kyle Shanahan's fault for working with all these nobodies. Love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah, it's it's crazy. The 49ers just for some reason, they just always beat the Rams and the Rams are in trouble now. I don't really know.

So they have we have our first loser leaves town game next week. True loser leaves town. The Rams are going to the box. So that is like, yeah, whoever loses that game is going to be in real in a shitload of hurt. To me, that whose line is it anyway? Let's guess it Rams at the box. And this is Saturday or the Sunday at

the one four twenty five, maybe bucks minus two and a half is my guess. I'm going to go with Rams. I'm going to go with Rams minus two and a half. I'll say bucks minus three. I feel like we're I feel like the the odds makers are just my brain where it comes like the bucks can't be this bad. I believe we have an exact winner. But it's minus two and a half.

Oh, did you look at it? No, come on. OK, well, I'm taking the we don't cheat it. Whose lines I feel like this is this is a wamping. This has Wamp written all over it right now. Yeah, you're taking the Rams. I'm taking the Rams. I am I'm I'm preclude recusing myself of this game.

I will not be picking this game. You're going to take the box. I'm going to take your obsessive. You take that you have you. It's a great spot for them. Many by the you're buying as low as possible with them. Just keep buying low. You just keep buying low.

I feel bad sometimes when I pick against big cat, but this is one of the situations where I can like, you know, when you see your friend that has a problem, they won't take the help. They're my new big cat with the box. Remember the Falcons a few years ago when they were when there was just all the first round picks. And I was like, this team is so talented.

This is I just keep being like, get how I'm ready. Can't lose this many games in a row. Well, guess what? Someone might be injured for the Rams. Sean McVeigh, probably the dumbest thing he's ever done as a coach. He had Cooper Cup running routes with a minute left in this game down 31 14 and he hurt his ankle. Wait, how bad I wasn't factoring that into my he hurt his ankle.

I don't they don't know, but the dumbest thing you can do. I don't understand what he was thinking. Yeah, very stupid to with one minute left. He was running plays down 31 14 and Cooper Cup hurt his ankle. Very, very stupid. The one guy you can't lose. So he's the guy. I think he's got what was the season last year?

How many yards receiving did Cooper did Cooper Cup have? Oh, some insane. Yeah, he got like the triple crown. Yeah, last year, 1600. I can't even remember. Nineteen forty seven ninety. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

Yeah, Sean McVeigh, you're dummy. I think I think it's so personal with McVeigh at this point that he loses his sense of how to coach and all his strategic advantages that he has against other coaches. He it's all out the window against Cow Shanhan. It just becomes like I want to beat this guy so fucking bad because he owns me. Right, right. So that was that was a bad moment for Sean McVeigh.

And I don't know what, you know, the Niners feels like they need to have Debo today. So what if what if the Rams go out there and they get Kamara? Oh, that would be quite the arms race. That fix everything that's wrong with them. I think it would fix what's mentally wrong with McVeigh right now, which is he wishes he had Macafer. Yeah, right. Right. It was you can you can convince yourself to if you get Kamara,

you you can convince yourself you're happy with Kamara when you originally wanted. Yes, yes. And they I don't know. I don't know what the I feel like the Rams aren't a running back away right now from like everything they're doing. And I also feel like just just based on vibes, New Orleans shouldn't be sending Kamara to the Rams. You still got bad blood with the Rams. Yeah, don't do that. Don't let that don't fucking do that.

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I like to play football. You know, and then I was thinking he did dress up for the parade. So that was a big dress up. And he did put on a costume when they were clown stealers this week. So wait, which Batman is he? I'm not even of Eagle's guy, but I that's like you just grab that mask from someone in the crowd. Yeah, I don't think that's like I don't know. The Batgirl stuff has been around with the bat stuff.

No, yeah, he had a quote a couple of weeks ago that was like, well, if we have Swole Batman, skinny Batman, fast Batman, why can't we have fat Batman? He did it. Also, Tony Brown is just fat man. Yeah, Lane, Lane Johnson also. That was the best. Yeah, dressed up as Jason Kelsey. It was pretty cool. I do like that. Yeah, it's very funny.

We should dress up as each other for Halloween next Halloween next Halloween. We'll do it for sure. And we're definitely going to do it today. Cool. No, next Halloween next Halloween when we wake up tomorrow. No, no, no, no, no, no, next Halloween. OK, not this Halloween. Next Halloween. We still have time to dress up. No, no, no, next Halloween next Halloween. I've already got my costume picked out for this Halloween.

OK, so our first nominee this week is me. I'm going to go. I'm going to go as Max next year. Said the if a lot of you guys saw there was a moment where a Phillies fan, a young Phillies fan, he painted on his chest, was chirping Houston Atro fans in the crowd. And turns out he's a football guy. Yes. So apparently he got on a flight six a.m. the next morning to go play his pop Warner game

and kept the Phillies painted on logo on underneath his equipment while he was playing. So I mean, getting back for a football game, not even celebrating the win. That's football. I move. I was a very and he's flexing for the camera before his game. I like that. He got in that dude's face, too. Yeah, that that guy's a dog. That guy. Yeah, that guy has a dog in a very filly.

Our second nominee is Lane Kiffin in the old Miss game against A&M. He was yelling at one of his players to fake an injury to stop the clock. He was yelling at one of the opponent's players being like, yeah, bitch, why don't you get down and fake an injury because the guy was crying to the refs or something. I like that. But also Lane Kiffin, he's had players do that in the past. He also talks shit to Jimbo after two in the press conference, I think.

Yeah, which is pretty funny. I like Lane. I do, too. We're Lane Lane really doesn't give a shit. No, he does not give a shit. What I think he's figured out that Ole Miss is a perfect place for him to not give a shit about anybody on the outside. I hope he stays because, like, as long as you win football games at Ole Miss, you can do anything.

I mean, like anything, nothing's off limits. Yeah, Ole Miss, he said afterwards, everything, nothing. Yeah, you can anything you want to have yourself a time. Yes, is when big time. He said, maybe Jimbo has a Joker Joker outfit for me after the game. I don't. That's pretty good. There's a lot of, like, internal, like inside jokes about things that have been done in the past in the SEC.

I'm just going to assume that that's a really good dig at Jimbo fish. Yes. Our third nominee is Coach Rabel. Coach Rabel was embracing his center, walking out of the field into the tunnel, Ben Jones. He started crying about how courageous it was that Ben Jones played through so many injuries during the game and patted on the head and was just balling on his shoulder.

I like that. No, he had he had some wild injuries that game. I think didn't he get moved to center? Yeah, I think so. I forget exactly how that shook out. But I think he also had diarrhea and like food poisoning before the game. Yeah, Jake just gave a little nod like, yeah. Taylor was always like that.

I actually think that that's like that's got to be one of the toughest things to do is play an entire NFL game as an offensive lineman while you have diarrhea. Yes, that's Ironman. I would agree. I'd agree. And our fourth and last nominee is Jim Mora, head coach of Yukon, who during the game when they beat UMass for the first time in a very long time, I think ever.

No, no, no, they beat BC. BC for Cumble's next week. Yeah, UMass. It's C for Connecticut. And then UMass or it's Kamas when they show the logos. Perfect. So it turns out he lives in a haunted house. Yeah, a little little Halloween special for football guy.

He lives in a haunted house and refuses to move out, even though he knows there's ghosts in it. We said they're friendly ghosts. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of cool. Yeah. So I thought you were going to do Michigan State for beating up that Michigan player. That was bad. Well, that was going to be for my who's back.

OK, all right. He got in the tunnel. It was the guy that was was mowing the lawn before the game with an attractor or whatever and just ran over the goalpost. And then the team, yeah, they just it was like a high school game. And they just had to play on one side of the field. That's great. What do you do if you're in that tractor?

I feel like you got to do you got two routes. You can go one, you can like just quit and walk away and not say anything or two. You can try to play it off and be like when I got up to the field, like it was already like that. And just hope there's no video. That's like a few maybe more than a few years. I can't keep track of years.

But Illinois played Northwestern at Wrigley and they didn't measure it correctly. And it was like a very big hazard in one end zone. So they just had to play. Oh, yeah. It was like an arena football. Yeah, they had to play going one way the entire time because if you like caught a touchdown pass on one of the end zones, you just run into a brick wall.

That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. There was a there was a conspiracy going around on. I think it was on Alabama and some message board that they had where they were saying that the the uprights weren't to correct the they weren't regulation in Tennessee. And that's why the students like tore them down and threw them into the river. Oh, I like to get rid of the evidence. I like that a lot.

And that's why they missed that field goal in the fourth quarter against the volunteers. Yeah. I like that. Let's let's look into it. That's some good shit. OK, let's do who's back that we can get out of here. It's brought to you by our friends. A visible wireless can be a nightmare, but this spooky season. Visible is saving you from scary wireless with the switching hour

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My who's back of the week is racing. Yeah. NASCAR. Yeah. We're talking NASCAR NASCAR. Never thought never thought you'd see the day. But Spider, a guy that works behind the scenes here. Boris, I don't think we talk about much on the show, but huge, huge, glue guy, great guy. He's he's absolutely the best absolute gear head.

Like he really loves NASCAR. Rubens racing. Go follow it on social. It's like our it's our racing platform. But he loves NASCAR. I'll talk to him about it. Ask him, you know, because he makes picks, gives gambling picks, gives him good picks. So, you know, we'll shoot the shit. Ask him what he likes this weekend.

Sometimes put a couple bucks on it. And then today we had AJ Elman, Dinger, the 26 car. Part of my cheesesteak car. So I was I had a little bit more interest in like, you know, what's going on? How's the race doing? How's our car doing? I don't think we did a great thing. We finished like in the 20s, whatever.

But I was sitting next to Spider in the afternoon games. They're all kind of a snooze fest. And he's giving me the situation like Denny Hamlin needs to, you know, finish in fourth or whatever. And he makes the playoff using the playoffs, 16 people. And then after this race, it gets a little down to four. And Denny Hamlin needed to finish in a certain spot to advance. So I'm watching him tuned in.

And then this guy Ross Chastain, who was in fifth, him is basically him or Denny. He was too, too sparse behind Denny, short track. The race was basically over. It seemed like Denny Hamlin had raced his way into the final four. And this guy pulled a move. I was speechless. Apparently afterwards, you know, it came out that it's one

of the craziest best NASCAR finishes of all time. But in the moment, I was like, does this happen all the time? Cause it was amazing. He just used gravity and like science, ran his car into the wall so that he didn't have to break on the turn and just hit the gas as hard as he could. And he one of the coolest moves ever. So he came behind beat Denny Hamlin at the finish line by a hair and he advances to the playoff and Denny Hamlin lost.

I have no idea why more race car drivers don't do this. Yeah, it just looked like he he unlocked. It looked like he caught the the mushroom in Mario Kart and just went faster than everybody else around the outside. This speed strip. Why don't you? Yeah. Why don't you just do that all the time? It was unbelievable.

This this guy, this guy NASCAR man tweeted this out. Chastain's last lap was 18.845 seconds, a second faster than Kyle Larson's pole when no one's on the course, a tenth of a second faster than the track record set in 2014. So this guy just did. He he he literally was like it's like a movie where it's like, you know, there's no way we're going to get past this unless and he just like the happy Gilmore, you know, when the when the all the shits on the on the tee and he just has to go up and around.

He basically did that in NASCAR. It was just like, well, I got one move left. It's the fuck it run to the wall and just put my pedal to the metal and hope I win. And he did. So we didn't win, but he beat Denny in advance. I love that. He said that he used to do it on the GameCube in 2005. Like there was some NASCAR game that he used to do it.

And he was like, fuck, I'm going to try out in real life. It sucks that it happened against Denny, but it was a fucking bad ass move. I don't think I think it's one of those things. Denny's probably like, yeah, I kind of get a respect. Yeah. It's not like one of the guys called it like a clown move and said it was bad for the sport. I got news for that attitude is bad. Yeah, we're talking about it right now. That was that was awesome.

He just he beat you guys because he had the nuts to drive his race car into a wall and then use centrifugal force to slingshot around you. That's that's cool as fuck. Yeah, if you got to watch the clip, if if you're a little bit confused, it will it will do it justice. It was it was done. It was one of those things where I was destroyed her car, but it would have been sick. Yeah, I don't watch it.

I don't like 28. We should find them. For not doing that, you know, I've never. I can't even tell you the last time I watched a NASCAR finish. So it was one of those things where I was watching. It was like, that was fucking crazy. Like this happens all the time. And then it was like, no, this is a once in a lifetime once once. You know, when they call it, I guess I was always calling it

the best non-winning race finish of all time. So because he came in fourth, but it was unbelievable. Yeah, I'm I'm and I'm rooting. I mean, this guy's you got to you got to bet on to win the championship next Sunday in Phoenix. I'm suspending A.J. Ohmendinger for not doing that for one episode of part of my take. We will not discuss A.J. Ohmendinger there there.

PFT or who's back? My who's back the week is comedy, because comedy is now legal on Twitter. Oh, that was an Elon Musk tweet. Nice. So that's a good one. The first amendment is back. Yep. Elon Musk took over Twitter. And now the reports that he's going to charge people that have blue check marks, twenty dollars a month to keep their blue check.

My I'm very woke on this, by the way. I think that this is like coaches do this a lot in sports where they leak something to a guy that they don't believe. Like, I don't know, maybe something along the lines of we're considering hiring Condoleezza Rice as the next head coach. Yep. The Cleveland Browns. And then they see if that makes it into the news and then they know exactly who they can't trust.

Yep. I feel like Elon's doing that right now. There's somebody that he told this information. I agree. That's putting it out there. But that said, there are a lot of people that I guarantee. Like, we're all addicted to Twitter. Oh, yeah. There are a ton of people that would you go to pay. Well, it's our job. Yeah, it is. It kind of have to be. Yeah, you make me be addicted.

You're my boss. You forced me to be. No, I wish you guys would have got addicted to, like, TikTok. OK, I will. Yeah. Starting starting tomorrow, I'll be addicted to TikTok. Done. Making them or just watching them? Both. Well, you got to watch to make. That's a Chinese company, though, isn't it? Yeah. So that not free speech.

Get addicted to YouTube. Hand. We're not addicted to YouTube. I don't know. All right. We're addicted. We'll be addicted to both. Done. But not really addicting. Yeah. YouTube. Yeah. Well, TikTok. Yeah. Look at Billy's brain.

Billy gets all his facts from TikTok. Billy, can you give me a brain dump on Elon Musk taking over Twitter? I personally think that he's doing it because he's bored and he's rich, and he thought that this would be cool. Like, it would make him cool to be the guy that's the head of Twitter. And again, just by a team, dude. Yeah. An NFL team. That's way cooler.

He walked into the lobby with a sink detached, a detached sink that we wash your hands. So Big Cat could piss in it? No, I thought he was like throwing the kitchen sink at Twitter, but he was letting that sink in. I feel like Elon's going to he's like emptying the clip of jokes. And by like mid next week, he's like, wait, I own this. I think so. I think he liked posting online.

He's always been a poster. I'm sure that he's had burner accounts and shit. He got sick of like having his engagement stall out there, a lot of people that talk shit to him all the time on Twitter. And he's like, I'll show I'll show all the haters. I'll buy this whole thing. And then you'll have to love all my tweets. And I mean, credit to him, it's probably going to work.

Yeah, we love your tweets. I love your tweets. Yeah, we love your tweets. Come on, part of my take. We love your tweets. And basically, I'll just I'll just yell at you for not owning a professional sports. Yes, call you a loser for that. All right, my who's back the week is Kyrie Irving being a shithead. So he went he went viral and was in the news.

He so last week, he posted a link to a documentary that was very anti Semitic and just like factually incorrect. And then people were like, dude, that's kind of fucked up. He then did an interview after the Nets lost another game on Saturday night. And I think it was like all in within 60 seconds. He's like, I know I have a very powerful platform. And then was like, why are you guys asking me these questions? Like ask me basketball questions. Who cares?

So I I guess I should be shocked. But I'm not because this is what a Duke education gets you. Duke grads just being dumb are like that's that's not you know, that's just what happens. Kyrie, he graduated from Duke. Yeah, he graduated from Duke. So yeah, in one year. Yeah, one year. Yeah, he got so much education.

But there's no one in the world who thinks they're smarter than they are than Kyrie Irving. Like he thinks he's the smartest person in the world. And he is not he has no depth whatsoever. So yeah, Kyrie Irving is he's performing a useful activity, though, which is the media is now talking about Kyrie being the story on the Nets and not Ben Simmons. Yeah, having more fouls than he has made fuel gold.

Yeah, that's cool. I guess it's like a distraction now at what cost. Raging anti-Semitism. Yeah. Yeah. And just being like, I'm just posting it. I'm not saying that it's right. I'm just posting it so people can then watch it. Yeah, he said that he's not endorsing it. Yeah. So I like to do that a lot is I just take a bunch of things I don't agree with. Yeah. And I just post links so that people can buy copies of

like, here's why I think the world is flat. Yeah, just because, you know, stretch your mind out. He sucks, man. He's he's he just sucks. He just sucks. He also seems miserable. Yeah. Well, he I I think he thinks that he is like an intellectual. And then when he's when he when he does this shit and then tries to explain it and backtrack it and then also like get out of it. It's like, dude, you don't you can't even you can't even stand by whatever

you're trying to like your provocation, you're you're being a provocateur. But then when when people ask you about it directly, you're like, I don't know. I love all people. Or he's he's he's just being like, it's my right. Yeah. Yeah. OK, you're right. It is your right. It's our right to call you an idiot. Yeah. Then why? But why? Yeah. Why are you doing that?

And then he doesn't want to answer the follow up. Yeah, like I would understand if you at least can can have a debate. I wouldn't respect his, you know, posting of anti-semitic shit, but at least it'd be like, well, at least he's thinking about it. And he's I don't know, standing behind it, but he's not even doing that. No, he's just he's just like lobbing a firecracker into a crowd. And then and then it explodes. Everybody's like, yo, why the fuck did you do that?

He's like, he's like, why are you questioning me about these things? I love all people. It's such my right. I would never I would never hurt anybody. But why aren't you guys asking me about basketball? Aren't you basketball reporters? Yeah. Yeah. So Kyrie Irving being an idiot is back. Hank, do you feel like vindicated by everything that Kyrie's done afterwards?

Not vindicated. I'm just happy he's not a problem. Right. Yeah. But like that feels like you guys have because, you know, there was a time when it was like, oh, you know, Kyrie versus Boston, what was going on here? It's like everything he's done in the last two years. Like, no, he was the problem. Yeah, it's kind of like a rust. Well, Russell Wilson, Seattle situation, but different,

but but similar in a way. Well, yeah, he didn't. Russell Wilson's not doing shit on the fucking Seahawks fans and say it's the worst place to play. I feel bad because the signs were there. First, first, they came for Lucky the leprechaun. And I said nothing. I'm correcting that right now.

Kyrie, you're full of shit. Yeah. Billy. So after the Michigan, Michigan State game, which Michigan beat Michigan State pretty badly, there was a altercation in the tunnel leaving the field into the locker rooms where Jaden McBurroughs was jumped by many Michigan State players in the tunnel. They were it's quite the video,

sort of told gang up on this one player who after the game, Jaden McBurroughs sort of ran into there's one tunnel ran into the locker room area with most of the Michigan State team, sort of. Usually they kind of separate the teams when that happens. But he sort of ran in in the wrong crowd, sort of also high fiving fans, kind of a little bit of taunting, but nothing to sort of nothing

sort of deserves to for you to be like stomped out by a bunch of dudes. But sort of I would agree with that team. Yeah, definitely, definitely being probably an asshole before. Yeah, but but it's also it's always when something like this happens, like, hey, Michigan State, you could have had that fire and fury when you were getting your shit kicked in on the football field. Like that it always is like, yeah, it's like a boxer trying to fight after a fight. So you guys had the chance to be physically imposing to your opponent

for 60 minutes and you fail. And I have no problem at all with what Jim Harbaugh did at the end of that game where he was like calling trick plays and shit. I wish he had put it on him. Yeah, I wish he was one. He was probably trying to cover the spread to I don't know if you've never watched college football before or paid attention during a college football season, but style points actually matter.

Oh, yeah, they matter, especially in rivalry games. And for the longest time, it was like Harbaugh can't beat any of his rivals. He's just he's going to try to score as many points as he possibly can on every opponent that he plays against. And every every and you can you can try to stop them. You're welcome to do that on the field, but you can't get mad at it afterwards. Every rivalry should be like that. Every rivalry should have the team.

If you have the upper hand, you should try to bury your opponent. Because guess what? You get to play again the next year. Yeah, and you should talk after it shouldn't do that. Shouldn't shouldn't jump a player in the tunnel. But I want rivalries to be not cordial at any point. Credit to Mel Tucker, though. Mel Tucker did go out and like try to shake Harbaugh's hand.

And it seemed like a pretty normal post game interaction because he knows. Yeah, well, like and he's yeah, he has ninety five. And he's getting paid. He's getting paid. Actually, if one good year, if Harbaugh was smart, he would actually do everything possible to not get Mel Tucker fired. Yes. So he could continue to play against him for the next five, six years. Yes. Yes.

What are you going to say? Then there was another player, a Michigan player, Michigan defensive back, Jamin Green, who also got hit with a helmet in the tunnel. Yeah, I mean, that's that's some lame shit to be taking off your helmet and swinging at people in a tunnel. Yeah, that's a salt. So that's a salt.

A salt. Fighting is back. Yeah, fighting is bad. Fighting is bad. There's also some fighting in D3. Heard there's a little scuffle between Amherst and Wesleyan. Oh, wow. Those are some lesser programs. Yeah, no, that's expected.

Yeah, I honestly expect nothing more out of those stones. It's crazy. You rag a muffin. It's the lot. Yeah. Jake, finish us off. My who's back is cheating. Apparently, Martin Maldonado of the Astros used an illegal bat. Interesting.

During the World Series. Wait, wait, you said cheating. That's a very specific word. I seem to recall the phrasing that was used. The bat was against Major League Baseball rules. I guess that is cheating. Yeah, no, we mentioned that's exactly cheating. Had anyone else been using this bat?

Not this year. At least no one else. Albert Pujols. Oh, what? Seriously, he was allowed to use it, though. Oh, he was grandfathered in for how long? A while, right? 13 years.

Oh, wow, that's a long grandfathering in. OK, all right, no, I actually didn't know I didn't hear this story. So I was just asking for details. So Martin Maldonado used it World Series Game One. So the Astros are they accused of being cheaters right now? Why isn't this the biggest, bigger story? I don't know. Why isn't the media talking about it?

It's the Astros. Yeah, it's Crickets. Patrick Mahoney does that. The media won't shut up. But if this were the Yankees, good night. They have to make it to the World Series. No, you're right. That's a fair shot.

It's a valid point. But if Aaron Judge had this or anyone on the Yankees. Well, Jake, I'm saying we are making a big deal because it is the Astros. Yeah, that also is true. It's yes. Yeah, I mean, it's probably like how big of a rule breaker is it? I don't know.

They cheated again. And so did Albert Pujols. But the Astros blew that game where he used the illegal bats. Yeah, so quickly, Max, how we feeling? 1-1, steal the game. Game one, you get one on the road. Game two did not go so well. I saw a stat that was crazy.

The Astros have given up the same amount of earned runs in the postseason as the Braves and the Mariners. The Braves and the Mariners were both eliminated in the divisional round. Wow. That's insane. So the Astros are pretty good. How are we feeling?

Um, good. Oh, no. That was a question mark at the end. That was bad. That was bad. I'm just going to let you know from where I'm sitting, the way you answered that question. I'm worried about game three.

McCullers versus Indegard is tough. But banks have a tough place to play. Yeah, they haven't played at the bank yet. They haven't played at the bank, and this is where we go. And I talk myself back into it. But game one was like the best game of all time. Basically should have ended the World Series right there. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that was my, that was like a Super Bowl win. Yeah. No, this is bad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If we didn't have all these statiners like Dan Herron saying, oh, the World Series should be seven games long. Hang the ban.

You guys would all be champions. No, you've made some mistakes. I hang the ban. That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant.

That's not what I meant. All I'm saying is that, I mean, you get the Super Bowl after one quarter. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, game one was electric win. We took one in Houston. That was the job to do going in, going in. Yeah, he's mustering up his strength.

You took home field. Yeah. Correct. I wish our two aces didn't give up 10 runs in the first two games. That's a little worrying knowing that Cindergarten's pitching tomorrow. But got to play at the bank.

Got to play at the bank. Got to play at the bank. Got to play at the bank. It is going to be rocking this weekend. I'm fired up for my guys. OK, so for anyone who's not following the World Series, I'll just distill Max's answer real quick. He essentially just said, the Astros are a far better team.

But Philly fans are so loud, they will hopefully win three games for them. You just got to say, Max, why not us? That's pretty much what you just said. Why not us? The JT Real Mudo homerun was sick also. I really want to emphasize that was awesome. And one more thing that I really have to say.

One more thing that I really have to say is that those umpires should be in jail for saying that that ball was a homerun. The Schwerber ball was a homerun. Because that was ridiculous. Which one? Well, he hit a ball that was clearly foul. It got all, it got, it got called a homerun.

It got called a homerun. He rounded the bases. He touched home plate. You can't do that. You could see that it's foul. Call a foul and you can't. He got exhausted. How could you?

I got exhausted. I got exhausted. As soon as, it took everything out of me. And it took everything out of Philadelphia in that game. And it shouldn't, it's not right. It's not right. All the Phillies fans that were there probably got really loud and they couldn't get as loud

for the rest of the game. Who, there seems to be a lot of uh, you know, rumors going about who's singing this national anthem tonight. Yeah. Who is it? Who is it? Is it Boyce the Man? Bruce Springsteen?

I was, I was. Will Smith? Taylor Swift's song at an 08. Meek Mill? If it's Bruce Springsteen, the Big J's, nope, cheering the press box. Oh my God. What will get the bank going the loudest?

Meek Mill? No, Meek Mill would. Sliced alone? Oh, say, meek Mill is the one. I don't know, I don't know. I don't care about that. Nick Foles? Nick Foles just whips his dick out?

Nick Foles would be great. I don't know, I don't know. I don't care about the, about the anthem. I need Cindergarten to give me. That's capricious. Man. It'd be awesome. Are you going to kneel?

This is not going to work. I need Cindergarten to give me five strong innings. Hey listen, you know this is it. The blow up at the bank. Listen, you don't be sick if the roots all came out there. Yeah, and the roots somehow performed. Roots are great, roots are great. Listen, no, no one goes into the bank and comes out alive.

Haven't lost at home yet. Haven't lost at home. Let's get that confidence back on. Haven't lost at home. This segment has gone terribly for me. I know, I know, I know. But it's going to be OK. It's, it's late.

It's four o'clock in the morning. It's four and four thirty in the morning. It's actually, we're actually a half hour from first pitch. I'm not, you know, it's jitters. You know, it's after game one, I said we were, I would have said we're going to sweep. And then after game two, it's like, oh, I don't like that. We are just got to jump.

Whatever. Win game through. You got to watch some YouTube compilations of Cindergarten back when he was good pitching. Also, all right, just tell, just tell yourself like, like you can, you can will him and the adrenaline that's going to be going through his system. Thor is coming back.

And I'll give you one more. Justin Verlander, for as good as his career, he's one in seven in games he started in the World Series. Correct. But we are to beat it. I know, but you got to pick. You got to, we got to see him again. I know, I know.

There you go. There's no the win. I'm, I'm, I'm, wait, Verlander. He's never won a World Series game. No, I saw the status one in seven, I think. No, I don't think Justin. He's really never won a World Series game. No, he might not have won it.

His team, his team is one in seven in games he started. But Verlander himself. Yes. And he looks so fucking old now. He looks like he's Justin Verlander's dad. Yeah. He's big time. Oh, shout out, Kyle Schwarber.

America, you get free tacos. Yep. Because Kyle Schwarber stole a base. My fucking god. And isn't that a free subscription here? Yeah, yeah, that's right. Kyle Schwarber got America a free subscription apart. But I thought we needed a, a triple or something.

Oh, we may have changed the rules a little bit. No, we said something else. Did we, we switched it? Triple or like a, was it a balk? A balk, a balk. Yeah, a balk. Fuck, all right, so we still got to wait. So no free subscriptions.

I want it on the record, I'm very confident going. Yeah, yeah, okay. I, I, I, I'm just very confident. You just did a P.S. P.S. P.S. Don't, don't get it twisted. Yeah, no.

Love my guys, we're going to win the next three games. We won't even go back to Houston. And just remember, Max, just remember, if a fight starts between the fans and the Astros, Philly will kick their ass. Sure. Yeah. Well, I mean, there won't be any Houston fans in Philly.

It's fine. No, I'm saying the actual players. Oh, sure. The entire stadium versus the actual players. You got to talk about the fans. I was talking about the fans. I think you guys could beat up the Astros. Said.

Said. Said. Said. Talking about the fight. I also want to clean up the competitive bat thing. It was not a competitive issue. It was a player safety issue. Ah, that's what they say after cheating.

So Astros fans. So Albert Fouls was putting the entire MLB at risk. Astros fans are going to tweet at me, but they're going to tweet at me before listening to the full show. So somebody could have died. No, listen, Astros fans are not going to tweet at you because they heard Max just like two all over himself.

No, we're going to score so many runs this week. They turned off the episode as soon as Max started puking on himself. They were like, World Series 1. We're going to score so many runs. So it looks like that they're not going to get in trouble. All right, let's do numbers. Hank, have you ever won this?

Nope. New PMTV. Hank versus the machine. Go watch it. It was great. You've never won it? Nope. Damn.

I thought you. I'm calling Josh. No, because they didn't cover. Fuck you. Why are you laughing like that? I just want you to the only bet you won today was the CLP. That's true. But the things you were saying to me before about making up

fan fiction and how great it would be. It was fun. Yeah. It cost you another own four a week, too. Yeah, that's I'm a way. Yeah, it's a hungry dog. There's a big shift in the stand. Hungry dog has a one this year.

I might just do what you do and make it like minus one. What are the standings, Jake? I didn't make it. I don't fuck you. Big Cat's own person and me and you, PFT, jumped up to a top for a second with Hank. It turns out maybe all of us suck at gambling, and Hank isn't the sharpest like he was.

Yeah, Big Cat, it's 16-16. Boom. Try to fade that, bitch. You can't. You'll lose either way. 17. Josh. 69.

18. So I said it first. Sorry, dude. I'm going to go with. I'm going to go with. Oh, I said it first. Fuck. I'm going to go with three for Russ.

I mean, I said it first. Let's ride. 21. OK. 20. We're going to score so many runs. Let's ride. Someone gave me, shout out the guy who gave me that idea.

He's like, why don't you say 69 before Billy if it keeps hitting? That was a good point. 50. You've got to be quick to the draw now, Billy. Yeah. Someone did point out there, like 69 has won six times. Why don't you just say it first?

57th time now tied for third place. I got fucking backseat billies everywhere now. What do you mean? I just got too much information coming my way. What do you mean? About how to win this. What do you mean? Backseat billies, what?

Is it true, Hank? I saw people saying. I said people DMing me all this shit. It's like, I just clear out. Let me do it. Wait, they're pretending like it's not a game of chance? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then I think it's hard thinking about it.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, wait. So, Hank, is it true, though, that you guessed sequentially from one to 100, but you missed one number and that number hit? People were saying that. The streets are saying. I don't think you did it all the way,

but you did it for a little. There was wall art. No, so I was doing it. But obviously, I'm me. And there was a couple of times where I forgot, like, was I on 23 or 24? And then that happened, where I'm pretty sure that happened. So you missed.

And I said it in real time. I remember that. Oh my god. People can, people can follow up with one number it was, but. So you had a plan that would have worked and you still failed? Potentially. Unconfirmed. Honestly, that's that's like a.

By the way, his plan also made no sense. Like there's right. There is no way that you can plan for this machine, but it ended up making sense. But he screwed it up. You designed the world's worst plan that worked, but you didn't execute your terrible plan correctly. Hey, maybe next episode, Hank, but we all know that's not

when do we start calling the numbers? When's the first moment when you start calling numbers? What do you mean? Well, just for the future. Oh, I'm in his head now with the 69 that I got. I think once he says, all right, numbers are numbers, but he he shoots the gun. So he is like, he can call.

He knows what's going to happen. I actually disagree. I think he has to say numbers and then you have like a half breath. Yeah, I don't say it right away. You go back and check. I do not usually say the first number or. I'm just having this. You take 69 next time.

This might be unpopular, but I think that you should be able to share numbers. No, as long as you have gotten it with you a draft. No, no, no. Just going to snake. Listen, I said 69 first. You got to be on your toes now. Fuck.

It's like, I just added to know it keeps winning. What makes it yours? He wants the sex number so much because you guys are don't have the balls to choose it every time like I do. You don't even like 69. Yeah, you don't. You said that you don't.

Yeah, you're more of a head to head guy. Dolphins can't stop. You can't even you're uncomfortable with the number 69. You call it your number. It is my number. It's like yin and the yang. Do you like being on top or on bottom? And do you ever do a standing 69?

Yeah. Oh, why do you think I lift all these weights? Damn. Jokes. Wait, didn't you guys have a bet? Oh, no. We did have a bet. Jake is a motherfucker who asks, you didn't collect the homework.

You didn't collect the homework. That wasn't me. You didn't collect the homework. That was never me. They asked me to remind them. Jake did literally just do that. Jake understands we are at it. You didn't collect the homework.

We're dumb. So how the show works is me, Big Cat, and Hank forget everything. I really do feel like that kid. I'm sorry. Billy tries to pretend that all the bad things don't exist. And then Jake makes sure that everybody's being honest. It's called optimism. I promise I never did that in school.

So yeah, Billy, what are we going to do? Because I got the hot sauce right here. All right, well, let's go get. Are we going to do it on air again? Yeah, might as well just go grab it. Go quick. Go grab a cheese steak. Where is it?

It's in the fridge. You guys saved one? That's awesome. All right, Billy, we said douse. Jake, I'm going to do another number while I'm gone. We said douse. Let's see if we can get 17. 69, 69.

69. This would be incredible. This doesn't count, right? This doesn't count. 9. Do another one. Wow, I really feel like that kid. I feel dirty right now, Billy.

I'm sorry. Jake, we needed that. I would have felt so dumb. I feel gross. Also, it's for the AWLs. Yeah. They would have been like, how come Billy didn't? Well, that is the homework thing.

So Billy just left, and I think he's going to try to convince Hank to let him cheat. He's doing something underhanded. I'm not sure what it is. Dude, I kind of got him off his game by just saying 69. I can't remember who said it, but someone tweeted me, they're like, if 69 always wins,

just say it first. I never thought of that. Billy is legitimately angry that somebody else is doing the sex number. He's like, that's my joke. I think Billy thinks he invented 69. Oh, the stakes here. Hey, Hank, I was actually just saying something great

about the Celtics again while you're gone. Hank, I did two random ones that didn't count, 12 and 9, so it wasn't your number still. So that might have wasted two that you would have lost. Do you want more batting practice? Do you want to do another one? Let's do batting practice. I'll do one more.

17. 7. These don't count. These do not count. No, it's batting practice. Yeah, but it's like a freaking out, because it's on 97 now. Yeah, these don't count.

17, no, 47. Oh, I thought it was 7. I thought it was 7. That scared the fuck out of me. Oh my god, I did see the 7. That scared the cat out of me. Where'd Billy go? I probably went home.

Did you guys already put hot sauce on it? No. OK. These are the true people. The true AWLs are still listening right now. Max, would you like to say anything about the Phillies? I just really want to say that the Phillies are going to score a ton of runs.

I'm going through it right now. It's just all in my head. I knew it. You're good. No, I didn't. Well, play the links hard. I mean, it's not the first game. That's pretty much all I needed in the whole series.

I know. Once we won that series game, I said bad things. I should have said those things. It was better than a Super Bowl. All right. That's not true. The one that I ate last night. I don't know why that was coming out of my mouth.

The one I ate last time is way worse than this. I did Billy a favor. I gave him, it's not a dousing. This is a thorough soaking. I soaked it. Not doused. All right, Billy. Oh, he brought milk.

Billy, I put less on it than I had when I ate it last week. And also some of this is a Chipotle one. So it had some discoloration. I didn't put that much on there. I put. He's got to go to sleep after this. He's got to go to sleep. It's so hot in my mouth.

Good luck, Billy. At least it's cold. Billy, you want to go sit down for a mic? Yeah. Can we be done after this? Yeah. I didn't force you to take this bet. I know I took this bet.

But after this one, let's see. This is when you did the first time, though, you took the bet and then got mad. Well, I didn't take the bet originally. I was going forward, Billy. This time I took the bet. Just say no. OK.

Hot sauce. Just say no. OK. But I'm doing this one. All right. But I'm just going to, for the record, we are going to try and get you to agree to them in the future.

You have to say no. Oh, you guys should do a hot sauce bet for the next Pat's Jets game. I will. I actually thought we'd do one for this one. Yeah. No, Billy has to shoot himself with the arrow. No, no, no.

No, it was the bow and arrow. I think it was the bow and arrow. No, no, if it was, if I'd won, if the Jets won both games. Yeah. I was pre-milking. All right, just take two bites and we'll send the show. Took a chaser shot. It's pre-milking.

How's it taste? Ow. It's so hot. All right. All right, we have everyone on Wednesday. Love you guys. Ow. Ay, ay, ay.

How's it taste, Billy? Ow. This is what the bet's all about. It is pretty spicy. Are you going to do an animal fact? Dolphins can smell. Some people say I'm mean. Some people say I'm mean.

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