Pardon My Take - NFL Week 9, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bears/Bengals Thriller, Bills Big Win Over The Chiefs, Jayden Daniels Injury, An Incredible World Series + Who's Back
Episode Date: November 3, 2025NFL Week 9 We start with Fastest 2 minutes we then recap every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:11:44) Bears 47, Bengals 42 (00:11:44-00:27:45) Vikings 27, Lions 24 (00:27:45-00:34:11) Steelers 27, Co...lts 20 (00:34:11-00:43:29) Broncos 18, Texans 15 (00:43:29-00:53:33) Panthers 16, Packers 13 (00:53:33-01:13:29) Seahawks 38, Commanders 14 and Jayden's injury live (01:13:29-01:25:27) 49ers 34, Giants 24 (01:25:27-01:33:24) Patriots 24, Falcons 23 (01:33:24-01:45:22) Chargers 27, Titans 20 (01:45:22-01:48:05) Jaguars 30, Raiders 29 (01:48:05-01:53:46) Rams 34, Saints 10 (01:53:46-01:59:41) Bills 28, Chiefs 21 (01:59:41-02:13:27) We recap an incredible world series and game 7 (02:13:27-02:30:22) and then who's back of the week plus speaking up for the people amidst the youtube tv/espn feud (02:30:22-02:53:16).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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On today is part of my take presented by Draft Kings, week nine in the NFL.
It was a crazy, crazy Sunday of games.
We're going to recap them all.
Bears Bengals, Bill's big win against the Chiefs, the Bo Nix, Izzy Tebow.
A better Tebow.
Hank still disagrees.
We're going to start with fastest two minutes.
We're going to talk some...
We're going to talk to some World Series.
To Tebow.
Tebow was really fucking good, man.
Tim Tebow won a playoffs game.
We're going to go Savage mode?
He was horrible.
We're going to go Savage mode?
Horrible.
That's crazy.
That's crazy what you're saying about Tebow.
You don't remember Tebowania.
I remember the microphone.
He's not close to the microphone.
He's dressed like an Amish person.
You do Tebow because he was right.
Yeah.
When he told Tom Brady, hey, look after Aaron.
My culture is not your costume.
Max, don't worry.
It's not about the podcast.
It's about Hank making sure his fit is correct.
Are you okay?
I'm great.
Matt, you're not even close to the mic.
What are you talking about?
Okay.
We're going to do all of that.
We're going to talk to World Series,
an incredible World Series.
Don't give me that look.
You weren't close to the microphone when you were.
I was projecting well.
The Dodgers.
I'm leaving the audio as is so that people can see.
Well, that's just bad producing.
Amish people don't use electronics, okay?
They can't be around microphones.
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Today is Monday, November 3rd, Week 9.
Whop!
Whop!
Let me be the first to congratulate the Los Angeles Dodgers on back-to-back.
Back-to-back.
Back-back-to-back.
To back, back, back, back, to back.
Miguel, kissed by a row.
Ha-haas.
Ha-ha.
We start in Cincinnati, where the Bengals were looking for a win before their bye-bye-bye
as Joey Fatone Flacco was in sync with J.T. Chazez Higgins, who had to have thought it's going to be May.
Every time a ball was thrown his way.
On the other side, it was Kyle Menongai Fieri, who said,
Welcome to Flavortown.
On the menu today is 176 black and blue yards down the gut.
Out of bounds, except he stayed in bounds.
Staying in the kitchen, Caleb Williams Sonoma did it all.
Catching a touchdown, running all over the field, and passing for three scores.
The last, with time, tick, tick, tick, tick, ticking down as he found Colston, Live, Laugh, Loveland for the game winning scores.
The Bears win a thriller, and the Bengals like Reek and Game of Thrones continue to have no D.
Bears 47, Bengals 42.
What?
What?
We go now, Pitch Park, Pennsylvania.
where Daniel Alex Jones and the Colts are building seven wins as the steel are bending but not
collapsing.
Pat Friar was a big boy grilling on the muth, big boy grilling on the muth, cooking the Colts
like IKEA and making horse meatballs, how sweet it is.
Jalen Warren Buffett cashed in two touchdowns, liquidating the Colts defensive line.
Calvin and Hobbs Austin made the Colts look like a paper tiger saying, see you in the funny
papers. Meanwhile, in a touching tribute to the Jim Mersey collection, guitars going up for sale,
Indianapolis looked like a bunch of overpriced six stringers. Mike Tomlin has these boys on a journey,
and they're singing, don't stop, still leaving. In Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, 27, Indianapolis, 20.
We now go to Foxborough where Henry Lockwood was on the scene. In Foxborough, Drake Bell May was
Pip-pip to doodily doing it big to start the game,
connecting with the Mario Michael Douglas,
who scored a touchdown in traffic.
Michael Appenix was bursting out of his body with touchdownitis,
connecting with Drizzie Drake London,
not once, not twice, but thrice times on the day for big scores.
Stefan Barty Biggs was going in dry and coming out soggy
after he parked his big Mac truck right in the little end zone.
And in the fourth quarter,
the Falcons seemingly tied in.
up. They just needed Parker, Tony Romo to kick the extra point and
he missed it. Patriots escape 24-23.
Thanks, Hank, to memes in Houston.
In Houston, we have a problem because Chris J.J. Abrams drain
hit C.J. Stroud into darkness as Nico Phil Collins
saying, you'll be in my heart. As Demico Moore Ryan
had to go back to his ex, David Bruce Millis, Bo Nickelback.
said, look at this pass, as he found Cortland by Marriott Sutton, who checked in early to the end zone for six.
Woody Marks, Bubba Sparks, was rocking everywhere as he set up John Christian Kaimino Ila Mecca, Ike Kuma, Poo, Fairbairn.
That's not a pun. That's just his full name, as he had five field goals.
R.J. Harvey Dent lived long enough to see himself become the villain as he had the game-tying touchdown.
and what are you talking about? Will Lutz walked off the Texans with the game-winning field goal.
Broncos 18, Texas 15.
Thanks, memes.
In Detroit, where the Lion Pride paraded down the field as Jared Goff was degenerous,
spreading the ball around, disregarding the D, and ended up scoring with Sam La Portia de Rossi.
But the game turned on Brian 4-Aces defense.
Dustin Johnson, Patrick Reed, Peter Euline, Harold Varner,
as they harassed the Lions all afternoon, turning them into Garfield without his
I hate Mondays. I have no idea if that's how Garfield sounds. I hate Mondays. I hate Mondays.
Aaron Mike Jones was still ripping runs on his way to 78 yards. And the big news out of this
game, though, was the Vikings have a quarterback. As Ray J. McCarthy is happy, he's in
Kimisota, Vikings 27, Lions 24. We go up to the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field, where the Green Bay
Leonardo DiPacrios found themselves on the problematic side of young love.
Once again, recovering porn addict Dave Canales had his hands full this week with
prepping for Michael Parsons and avoiding pictures of Sidney's Sweetie's dress online.
Speaking of Sidney's Dress Teage, I think I speak for every American male last week
when I say, you just got jacked off.
Carolina seemed to switch into Tom Cruise Control as they continue to force
Chuba El Run Hubbard down our throats, while Mike Toreko Doudal is much better on a play-by-play basis.
The Packers, Luke Kwan Musgrave, let his team down and refused to apologize, as Dave Portnoyneau and Canales kept him bottled up very unfairly for pretty much the entire first half of the game.
The Panthers, 16. The Packers, 13.
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
The Carolina, the Panther?
Huh?
We head over to Nashville where Zach was on the sea.
In Nissan Stadium, Justin G. Herbo-Eert was left with some major PTSD
after his pass was intercepted by the sweet life of Zach and Cody Barton,
who sings, you and me, we got the end zone to see, so come on down.
Just me and you in the Vakfield, too, so come on down.
As he strolls into the end zone for six points,
but then Justin Bieber, Herbert, went swag, swag, on you to Michael Scott Matlock.
Oh, damn, that's a touchdown is so big.
That's what she said.
Afterwards, John Jacob, Jengelheimer, Smith, Scott,
punts the ball 60 yards as the crowd erupts with
whenever we go three and out,
the people always shout special teams take back touchdown for the Titans 2.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
To seal the deal, just in case you forgot,
I'm dating Madison Beer.
Here's a reminder that I am and she's extremely likable,
kind of attractive, and great girl.
Herbert rushes into the end zone from one yard out.
Chargers 27, Titans 20.
Thanks, Zach.
in Cairn Buffalo
versus Kansas City
Max
We head over to Buffalo
where Dalton Kinlaid
was penetrating the Chief's defense early
as he started to score
with a 23-yard catch-and-run
But then
but then Rishee Rice Rice Baby
said, yo,
Booker, let's kick it
for the extra point
after scoring the Chief's first touchdown
of the game
after a good second quarter
for the bills
The Chiefs had a chance to get some points going into the half,
but Holly should have gotten into the fucking end zone, Brown,
was unable to cross the pile on, forcing the Chiefs to settle for a field goal.
Late in the third quarter, Josh Peck Allen told his fullback,
hug me, brother, and bring me into the end zone as the bills went up two scores
and what would ultimately seal the game.
Bill's 28, Chiefs 21.
Big booms from Drake and Josh today.
Big booms. We got both brothers.
Big booms.
Standing on the corner, James Winston-Sourdowa, such a fine sight to see.
It's a Shanahan man, cooking up a plan.
It's a lot of Christian McCaffrey.
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49ers, 34, Giants, 24.
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Okay, week nine in the books and holy shit, this is why the NFL, you can never quit it, boys.
Because week eight, it was dog shit.
We said it, we admitted it, you got to say hand up.
these games sucked 12 out of 13 games in week 8 were uh double digits decided by double digits the Jets being the lone one score game this week and we still have Sunday night football that we're going to recap at the end is it hasn't started yet uh we had nine out of 11 games one score games they were awesome games crazy games overtimes holy shit come back player of the week the NFL the NFL the NFL Roger Gidel
It did it again right down to the wire.
The Chief's Bill is delivered as always.
That game, it's impossible for that game to be a blowout.
Yeah.
That game is always going to be.
They could play that game until they're 50 years old, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes,
and it's going to come down to the final possession.
So let's get into the week nine games, and we'll start with the craziest game.
It was Bears 47, Bengals 42.
This game took years off my life.
This was, the Bears season was essentially over Joe Flacco with an unreal
come back. You can never count out Joe Flacco. He had 470 yards. The Bears were cruising. They were up
14 with like a little over two minutes left. Joe Flacco goes down, scores a touchdown. They get the
onside. They go for two, go down six, get the onside kick, score again, go up by one with 50 seconds
left. And then Caleb Williams running the ball and then Caleb Williams hitting Colston
Loveland. It was I, the season was over. The bear's season was about to fall off a cliff.
and they somehow bounce back and won that game.
And my biggest takeaway is, holy shit, are both defenses really, really bad
because 47-42 is not an NFL score.
Well, was that?
And also, Ben Johnson just decided to really unleash Caleb Williams at multiple positions today.
Yeah, Caleb Williams was like Shohei Otani today.
He had 280 yards passing three touchdowns.
He had 53 yards rushing, and he had 22 yards receiving with a touchdown.
he caught two balls.
Ben Johnson had four different bears attempt to pass.
He emptied the clip.
It was, I mean, it was insane.
The whole game was insane.
It was back and forth.
And I know I've said this.
I think this is a third time I've said this year,
but the Bears never win that game.
And something is different with Ben Johnson.
I'm not ready to say the Bears are a good team quite yet.
I've been holding off because you can't give up 42 points
and let Joe Flacco, who threw for the most yards
for any quarterback over 40 years old in NFL history.
Let's go.
You can't do that and be like, hey, we're a good team.
You know, you just can't.
So 5 and 3 is an awesome.
It's awesome to be sitting at 5 and 3,
but the Bears defense needs a lot of work.
I said going into this game,
it was Caleb Williams and this offense must light up the Bengals.
They did just that.
So that part feels good.
But more than anything, it's Ben Johnson,
because that's a game the Bears would lose.
the Bears would quit in a dire situation, and they just kept on, they got off the mat when
it's like, how the fuck did this just happen?
Absolute stunning that the Bengals came back and took the lead, but Ben Johnson has these
guys believing in something different.
They have them believing that they're better than they probably are.
Yeah, it was, which is important.
It was a crazy ending.
And the tackling by the Bengals, it was just awful, awful.
Awful.
Bad tackling.
Great ballsy play call by Ben Johnson, knowing that you can throw across the middle of the field.
trusting that you'll be able to get up there
and spike the ball. Because I would actually say
that in the past, the bears
have been afraid of finding themselves in that
situation. Yeah. Where you can even, you get
attacked the middle of the field and then something is going to go
wrong. Yep. And you won't be able to get up there and spike it
and you won't be able to kick a field goal.
But he trusted, I just love how Ben Johnson
just, he must watch every guy on the practice field
over summer, like during training camp,
and just seeing, okay, that guy can throw the ball pretty good.
Yeah. That guy can throw the ball pretty good.
Dude. He just...
Commets through a laser
Lefty. A lefty laser, but yeah,
he watches every guy and he's like, okay,
I can use that guy for a play. Yeah,
DJ Moore, we're going to have you throw the ball too.
It was an awesome game to watch
and it was actually the perfect ending because
I wanted Joe Flacco to play well
and I wanted the Bears to win.
And so it really, it checked all the boxes.
How did the Bengals figure out how to
recover an onside kick? Because
the Bengals, given their defense,
they should just onside kick every single time.
Well, I think that's more. The Bears
had so bad for the bears the defense obviously it's it's been ravaged by injury but also
lacking of dudes they did actually turn the take the ball away a bunch and it almost you know
there was that uh return that was actually came all the way back that that could have been the
game right there the special teams for the bears was an absolute debacle i like to win a game
like this where you let up the opening kickoff return for a touchdown the other team blocks
the field goal on you and they recover an onside kick it has it hasn't happened in like 20 years
the bengals did everything right on special teams bears did everything wrong but yeah that was you don't
see on i mean bears just didn't go for the ball yeah it just was just like dribbling around and
hit everyone's leg yeah if i was the bengals i would do that every single time i would kick off because
it's not going to be any worse than your defense you might as well just try to get the ball back and
uh also shout out to zach taylor i'd maybe the worst fun maybe the worst challenge uh i don't want to say of all
time because there have been some bad challenges. This is definitely the worst challenge of the year.
It was revenge for the John Fox when he was the Bears head coach in 2017. He did the same thing
just reverse where he tried to challenge. He was Benny Cunningham touchdown. He tried to challenge
it being a, he was ruled down at the two, tried to challenge it that he scored. They went and looked
and they're like, actually, it's a touchback. Yeah. So it has happened before. But yeah,
Zach Taylor tried to challenge the ruling on the field and then having it
be a touchdown was a pretty bad challenge.
Yeah, so it was DJ Moore, right?
DJ Moore going into the end zone.
Zach Taylor saw him lose the ball at the goal line.
I think everybody watching was like,
holy shit, did he just fumble that through the end zone?
Is that going to be a touchback?
I think the announcer said that might be a safety.
That would rock if that's what the ruling was.
But Zach Taylor was like, I think I could challenge this
and get this turned into a touchback.
Then they saw, oh, no, he actually crossed the goal line.
So that's the cell phone of the year.
There was no way it was going to be a touchback
unless it was a touchdown first,
which makes no sense because he,
couldn't be a touchback if it was a touchdown first.
When you watch the replay, you're like, if he fumbled, then you're admitting that he
crossed the line because he had the ball crossing the line.
Yeah, he did.
And then he fumbled.
I think they were hoping that he fumbled as he was reaching the ball out.
But it wasn't even close.
It looked like, I don't know, then the announcer said, like, oh, the defender's forearm
might have been pinning the ball to his hand.
I don't know about all that.
It was a bad challenge.
Bad job by Zach Taylor.
Also, shout out Kyle Monongai, because he was insane.
176 yards ran so hard.
one of those guys that like this Ryan Poles got a lot of shit for not getting a running back
in the draft till very very late out of Rutgers he DeAndre Swift was hurt and he's just
one of those guys his legs just never stop moving.
A Shiano man.
Just love watching him run and the Bears credit also to Ryan Poles.
The Bears interior offensive line has been really, really good.
The tackle position is still, or at least Theo Benedict is a problem.
but in terms of the Bears' interior offensive line,
which we put a lot of money into,
Tuni, Dalman, and Jackson,
they all had zero pressures allowed,
zero hit, zero hurries,
and they ran the ball for 283 yards on the ground.
So, bully ball.
I don't know.
To your point about Cald Manungai,
is how you pronounce his name?
Manungi.
When you have a running back with dreads
that runs physically,
it looks so much better than if you have a guy with short hair.
And he was physical as all hell,
and you could see it.
Like they, and I'm, listen, I know there's going to be a lot of people being like, hey, it's the Bengals.
I agree.
I said before the game, I was like, the Bears offense has to go off because it's the Bengals defense.
So I'm not going to sit here and be like, the Bears offense is completely solved and everything's working because it's the Bengals defense.
But going into this game, it's like you have to put up big time points, big time yards.
Otherwise, there's bigger problems.
Those were put to rest for a week.
And again, five and three, the gateway.
I said, don't be surprised that the Bears are 5 and 4, 6 and 3 after week 10.
The Gateway is still wide open, and they're finding, it really just comes down to like the culture has shifted with Ben Johnson,
where the team looks like they're not going to give up in situations where they would have given up in the past.
Ben Johnson said, don't apologize for a win.
Never.
You never apologize for a win.
There's three wins this year that are officially, I've said it, three wins that are the Bears never win this game.
It was the Raiders game, the commander's game, and this game.
Bears never win those games.
Five and three looks good, too.
Just like, how long have you looked at, just looked at those numbers?
It's the five-dash-three.
It looks great.
It looks pretty good.
There's a lot after, so the Bears have the Giants next week, and then the schedule gets very difficult
because it's like two against the Packers, two against the Lions, Eagles, Steelers, Niners, a lot of hard games.
But my whole plan was if they can get six and three or five and four, they'll at least have a, a puncher,
chance to maybe get into a
playoff berth if they can tread water
in the back half of the schedule. So
that's open still. And right now you're still
in the window of C.J. Gardner Johnson being happy.
Yeah. He had a pretty good game today. I know the
secondary didn't have a sack, but he got a sack.
I think he had like
I think he, yeah, he had a sack for sure today, but
he looked good. He looked like he was
going to be a good addition to the team and as long as you guys
win these games. That's really, that's a gateway
game for keeping him happy
and making sure that he still wants
to be on the team. Season was over.
It would have been the end of the season.
It felt like it would have been a game that ended the season if you lose that game.
And Bengals fans are going through it right now.
I love the customized jerseys that sad franchises get for the quarterbacks
just to try to put a smile on people's face at a game.
I saw a Flacco jersey that was F-L-A-C-C-E-A-U-X, like the borough.
But for Flack-O-L-L-C-I-L-L-I-L-L-L-E.
Yeah, I like pretty good jersey because, like, I've rooted for some really bad teams.
you have to have jerseys that are so funny and bad that it at least for an instant
makes your friends happy when you're out of game together it's like yeah that's that's a that's a
creative jersey i'm also addicted to lSU fans because they've been in the news recently with
you know the governor and firing brian kelly i love i saw someone i think it was someone
tweeting it like getting mad at someone and they had to they told them to go away and they had
to spell it that way like where it's like you they just have to keep doing the ea you
UX, even in the situations where they're upset and, like, go away.
Yeah, the Bengals, though, this is tough.
They, they're the first team since 1960s to lose back-to-back games where they scored 38 plus.
Six times in the last two years, they've scored 30 plus points and lost a game.
I was going to say they didn't do that last year?
Not back-to-back games, 38 plus.
Okay.
Back-to-back games, 38 plus.
They had Chase Brown afterwards.
he said finish the fucking game just end it just end the fucking game talking about the defense
Jamar chase said one fucking stop when he was walking up the tunnel I don't know like it's so
it's got to be so frustrating very frustrated because you you your offense is electric and you have
t higgins made an unreal catch today that that touchdown catch he had yeah was insane and they
can move the ball so well and their defense can it looks like a big 12 a bad big 12 defense yeah
Flacco had that one bad pick at the end of the game.
And it was kind of fucked up how he had to sprint back so far.
I don't know why he ran.
Like he saw, he saw Montez sweat coming and he was just like, I'm going to run in a straight.
I'm not going to try to make a tackle.
I'm just doing wind sprints right now trying to stay in shape.
470 yards.
What else can you expect from Flacco?
No.
Four touchdowns, two picks.
Yeah, bad picks.
I get that.
But if Joe Flacco was throwing for 470 yards, that's not on Joe that he lost this game.
Can I do a couple quick blind resumes for you?
Mm-hmm.
And again, I'm, I'm not, I'm not deluding myself to think that the bears are a really good team.
But I just wanted to throw out a blind resume.
Player one, one receiving touchdown, player two, zero receiving touchdowns.
Ooh, I think player one might be Colson Loveland, and I think player two might be Tyler Warren.
No.
Oh, okay.
Player one is Caleb Williams.
Player two is Matthew Golden.
Okay.
first round pick for the Packers who plays wide receiver.
Did Tyler Warren have a receiving touchdown today?
I don't think he had one today, but I do have a...
I think that might be a double-blind resume.
I do have a blind resume as well.
Last three games, 12 receptions, 180 yards, two touchdowns, and player two, 13 receptions,
148 yards, one touchdown.
That is Colson Loveland and Tyler Warren, which I actually haven't been taking place.
I haven't been engaging in that discourse because it is they're both rookies,
and I think they're both very good, but I'm very happy to see Colson
level and get more targets red zone all that kind of stuff because you drafted him
tent overall you got to use him yeah that was an awesome reception that he had where he just
bounced off again bad tackling i couldn't believe he kept on going because it was awesome you didn't
really want to have it be a kick again cairo santos where the hell is jake moody bring him back
caro santos did not look confident going into that kick either i don't know if he has a tick
if that's always a thing that he's got i know i had a kicker last year that had a ticker yeah
it's not you don't have the most confidence in your guy if his left eye is twitching yeah i i i have
have to give one last shout out to shy sports bums on twitter probably the most disgusting thing
i've seen in quite some time bears fans they did a Cincinnati Chicago handshake where it was a
shot of malort mixed with skyline chili yeah you are a hero my friend because i would i almost
puked watching this video yeah so when did they credit to you man you got a stomach that is
stronger than any any man alive because somebody tweeted before the game somebody tweeted that at me
at like 1030 this morning not the video but the idea of mixing skyline and malort and i thought
about it and as as a man who has grown to love both malort and skyline i i think this plays
yeah i mean you like you you you you basically are saying i'm stronger than every person alive
because this is what i'm attempting to do that that to me combining malort and skyline chili
is more impressive than like jumping out of an airplane
or what Alex Honnold does free soloing.
Yeah.
That's way more impressive.
I would do it.
I would.
I think that the fat from the skyline would cut the gasoline flavor from the Mallort
just a little bit.
Oh.
The cinnamon and warm wood.
I think that could work together nicely.
Oh.
But yeah.
Good.
I mean, great game.
I was going to be big time doom and gloom if they had lost that game.
Hank, you were you're in your.
Amish costume.
You were Amish for the...
It was Amish for Halloween.
I saw a screenshot of you, of your face when all of that was going down.
You weren't happy, but you were more like, wow, this is going to be something.
I couldn't, I mean, the onside kick was stunning.
Because it's also a delayed...
I think I said out loud a hundred times on the stream, just recover the onside kick,
just recover the onside kick.
And then when they didn't, it was like, how could this be happening?
How could this be happening?
And it almost happened.
but you got it done
got it done that's it
got it done 5 and 3 looks good
all right next game
we have the Vikings 27
Lions 24
J.J. McCarthy
baller back as we
as we predicted J.J. McCarthy
stud this was a lot of the
Vikings defense too they were awesome
today they completely shut down
the Lions run game
they were all over Jared Goff
they had five sacks
30 QB pressures, and David Montgomery and Jemir Gibbs had 65 total rushing yards, which
is you don't see that usually from the line.
So credit to whatever Brian Flores did to fix it because they were, remember, was it 10 days
ago when they got absolutely gashed by the chargers, they look like a different team.
And J.J. McCarthy winner, winner.
Third and five with a minute and 40 left, a lot of, if you don't trust your quarterback,
you're running the ball and punting.
they trusted J.J. and McCarthy, and he threw a perfect back shoulder pass to Nailer.
Maybe that's a good sign.
They did a very good sign.
They did a very good job protecting him, too.
Yeah.
Like, they gave him a nice, clean pocket a lot, and he was making the most of him.
He looked good today.
I've had my doubts about J.J. saying, like, yeah, I was in the group people that said he had one good quarter until now.
And then the whole injury thing was kind of strange.
But based on what you saw today, if you're a Vikings fan going into today,
You know that deep down, you were like, what if the haters are right?
Yeah.
What if he's not the guy?
What if we got rid of two very good quarterbacks,
and we now have a second year quarterback that is being treated with baby gloves,
and he might just not be good.
You were kind of a little bit afraid of that going to this game,
and he made you feel really good about yourself because he looked very, very good today.
He started now three games in the NFL, two wins, and both wins,
road divisional games.
That's pretty impressive.
I do have a blind resume for
Jay J.J. McCarthy. You ready for this?
Everyone listening? Hank, you ready for this?
I want you to pick, Hank.
Player 1, 143 yards passing,
two touchdowns, one interception
and one rushing touchdown
in a 27-24 win.
Player 2, 143 yards
passing, two touchdowns passing,
one interception, one
touchdown running in a 27-24.
win
is it's the same
it's the exact same stat line
and that's both of jaj and mccarthy's wins isn't that fucking crazy it is crazy
exact same yardage exact same touchdown interception
rushing a touchdown exact same final score wow i would take the
first one first one yeah
that was the one against the bears
because i i thought today he looked a lot better than he did in that one that was
the clutch factor in the first win yeah he had a higher
I played myself
Like 143 yards is not a lot
But if you watch the game
You thought he looks like he is
More than capable of being a starting quarterback
In this league
And you saw what like Kevin O'Connell wants to do
Is they want to run the ball
They ran the ball
Down the lion's throat
Yep
They had 143 yards
Or 142 yards rushing
Aaron Jones being back is big for them
And that's that's clearly the recipe
But I was again
I feel like
Not many teams can make the lion's offense
Look like they look today
and they just looked panicked and out of sorts
because they were not able to run the ball
and Jerigoff didn't have a lot of time
and that's all credit to the Vikings defense.
Your Vikings defense and their offensive line was great today.
Yeah.
Do you think, so Dan Campbell did take full ownership,
which I liked.
He said we did everything we needed to do to lose that game.
I didn't have them ready coming out of the bike.
That's got to be one of the most painful things for Dan Campbell
to have to say out loud.
I didn't have them ready coming out of the buy.
because that's something he prides himself on having them having the boys ready out of a
I think the buy week is bad for Dan Campbell like being away from football for that long do you
think it's not healthy next year he could be like no buy week for us yeah he could just be like
well I'm going to show up to the office I'm going to treat it like it's a game week it's up to you
guys I can't force you to and then he just takes notes on everyone that doesn't show up I can see him
doing that so after the buy yeah Dan Campbell is now two two and one maybe he requests
to the buy. Maybe he requests for his schedule the buy week to be, they play Monday night,
then they play Thursday. Yeah. So the least amount of buy time. Yeah. That's probably what he's
going to do. He might do that. I think actually being away from the game, it's a negative for
it fucked him up. Yeah. It fucked him up. I, yeah, I don't know what to make of. This was, there was a few games
today where it was like, oh shit. Yeah, I forgot the NFL. Anyone can win any week. And the Vikings were,
I mean, we're going to talk about the Panthers, but there was some.
big-time doggies who won outright.
I think the NFC North is going to be very interesting.
NFC North is, yeah, it is...
I don't think it's the juggernauts that it was last year,
but I think it's going to be more interesting.
It's basically like the discourse going on right now,
the SEC, where the SEC is like...
It's not that we're down.
It's that we're just so good that we beat up each other.
Yeah, we beat each other up.
Yeah. Yeah, that was the old NFC Beast.
Yeah. Yep.
Yeah, but it is...
Every time you think, like, oh, the Lions
are way better than everyone. The Packers are way better than everyone. You have a week like this
and it comes back to Earth. Yes, this is a big win. Yeah. Huge win. Yeah, because the Vikings were
kind of on that teetering. Is their season going to be a wash at if they went, if they dropped to
three and five, now they have the Ravens next week, which will be interesting. Yeah.
It's the Ravens. I still don't know what to make of the Ravens right now. They're a playoff
We'll see. Just say they're a playoff. I mean, they are. They should. They got to be perfect.
They got to be perfect. They got to be perfect, but they're a playoff team. We just got to get ahead
it and say they're a playoff team we also should have paid attention that on the nfl
network they did their their picks for this game and it was a hundred percent detroit lines
yeah hundred percent do you think we should walk back the soft benching now or do we think maybe
it was still a soft benching and the soft i think we should double down i say the soft benching
it worked it worked yeah no i'm a soft benching guy now yeah like it's not when i say that he got soft
benched listen i'm going to trust what kOC does he's a quarterback whisperer he's soft
And he was right next.
I mean, when you soft bench your quarterback, there's a lot of time to whisper to your
quarterback next to you on the sidelines.
Yeah, agreed.
Okay.
Next up, Colts.
Or sorry, Steelers 27, Colts 20.
This was another one.
Mike Tomlin still got it.
They had a funeral in the parking lot.
Steelers fans did for their defense before the game.
If you judged what the Steelers have been in the last few weeks, especially Sunday
night football last week against the pack of.
in the second half. Their defense is atrocious. The Colts are the best offense going into this
week. We're the best offense in the NFL. And the exact opposite happened because the Steelers
defense was absolutely lights out. And they got turnovers. Six, six takeaways. The Colts had
four turnovers through eight weeks. And then they had six today. Yeah. Yeah. The Steelers
defense looked alive today. And there's plenty of blame to go around. But I think it all has to
start with Seth. Yeah. For the Colts. Max, I DM'd you the video. By the way, we should say
RIP Seth's grandfather. He lost his grandfather today. I'm sorry to hear that, Seth. Very sorry to hear that.
But this is unrelated to the grandfather. Seth does the videos every week. This is our Colts.
He makes a unique theme song for each opponent. We love Seth. And we love Seth.
Listen, my four-year-old son, Chris, was a huge Seth fan until this video came out. And now he is not
allowed to watch him anymore because this is the
Well, I disagree. Well, let's see.
Let's see. This is the Colts week
9 anthem going into the Steelers game.
Max, can you play it?
This is our Colts. This is our
team. We bleed
blue. This is our
cults, whether win or lose,
we love them.
For the shoe, beat the Steelers.
Let's break.
Roger's back this is our team go cold steves yeah so yeah parental advisory on that we
should have slapped that on there explicit let's break Rogers back is what he said and
then yeah he got some backlash for that and he issued an apology video maxing savage
yeah you guys can't be savage anymore if you click on the tweet um his own reply to it
he apologizes let's hear his dude who's being savage
Hey guys, Seth here.
I just want to address something that I have gotten comments about from today's Colts anthem video.
I just want to set the record straight.
I do not want Aaron Rogers to get hurt.
I do not get known violence.
I appreciate, I mean, we were just being savage just to be fun.
I'm sorry if you guys took it the wrong way.
Yep.
But go Colts.
Hope you guys understand I was just being savage.
Didn't want to promote violence like that.
So I appreciate your understanding.
And I hope you guys are still fans of me.
love you guys and go Colts
We are
Guys can't be savages anymore
It's crazy
But here's the thing
He literally was
He was being savage
He was being savage
And he was
But you don't apologize
For being a savage
That's where I have a problem
Well I think this might have been
His first time
Getting a little backlash
And it's probably a little scary
Because people didn't realize
That he had savage in him
Yeah but you don't bend the knee
To the mob
So the mob went out for their pound of flesh
And Seth you should have just said
Fuck that
I'm a savage
Yeah I'm Seth
He, uh, when, when he released this on Friday night, I quote to you, I said, guys just can't be savage anymore like this, this is, this is bullshit. And someone aptly pointed out, imagine if I had to reply, if I had to apologize for every time I was savage about Aaron Rogers. I think I would, the show would have just been me apologizing. Apologizing makes you look weak, Seth. You can't do that. You got to stand by your take. You wanted to break his back. And then you took it back. And guess what? You didn't break Aaron Rogers back. Being savage is what guys got to do sometimes. All right.
Right? Like we got to be able to talk shit. We got to be savage. We should just do that. Like, like, Zach, say something savage real quick.
Let's get savage. No, that's not, no. Who the buck's playing next week? Yeah, kick him in the nuts.
There we go. Who are the bucks playing next week? Zach, don't be too savage. Who are the bucks playing next week, Zach? Don't be too savage. The Patriots. Oh, get savage. Zach. It's a gentleman's game. Hank, you get savage. Show them how it's done.
by the way this is all under guys of savage so you're allowed to say whatever you want
we call this yeah savage garden on the show all right so let's decapitate baker mayfield
there you go that was so savage of him Zach that's a silly hat
oh no no no he did you look dude you look silly max max lives 99% of his life in savage mode
I hope Patrick moms breaks both his fucking ankles that was savage of you dude
Listen, and when someone listens back to that and gets mad, guess what?
We were just being, we were having our Savage segment, okay?
Can we play Sess Apology again?
I just love that.
He's like, I was just trying to be savage.
Just being savage.
We're just being savage.
Those are like whined down in bed.
Maybe I need to work on the camera.
I have gotten comments about from today's Colty at the video.
I just want to set the record straight.
I do not want Aaron Rogers to get hurt.
I do not get known violence.
I appreciate, I mean, we were just being savage just to be fun.
I'm sorry if you guys took it the wrong way
but go Colts
I hope you guys understand
I was I was just being savage
didn't want to promote finals like that
so I appreciate
your understanding and I hope you guys
are still fans of me
love you guys and go Colts
100% still fans of Seth
and sorry for his loss
and dude you were savage
you should not have
imagine being DeForest Buckner
and you watch the pump up video
as you always do on Fridays
and you're ready to run through a brick wall for
Seth, you're ready to run through Aaron Rogers' spine.
And then he apologizes for it later.
Talk about taking the wind out of your sales.
Yeah, you can't.
That's the lesson that he has to learn is like, dude, you're a savage.
That's how God made you.
You don't need to walk it back.
How nervous do you think Seth was that if Aaron Rogers got hurt?
I mean, that would have been so savage.
That would have been so fucking savage.
It would have been super savage, yeah.
Yeah.
But credit to the Steelers defense, Peyton Wilson, by the way.
felt like he was everywhere.
T.J. Watt had his old pop back, had a strip sack.
Are we concerned at all that Daniel Jones, this was a Daniel Jones' giant's performance?
Yeah, I saw a bunch of the memes of him turning back, animorphing back into Daniel Jones.
I think Daniel Jones is now good Daniel Jones.
I think he had a bad game.
Okay.
I'm okay.
Listen, worse quarterbacks than him and better quarterbacks.
Actually, a lot of quarterbacks have struggled running.
into the Pittsburgh Steelers at the wrong time.
That's sure.
And that's what I think this was.
They were desperate.
Steelers were desperate today.
Very desperate.
Mike Tomlin always wins these type of games.
It also, I said this on Friday.
This was the Colts first time on natural grass outdoors, the elements.
Maybe doesn't look as great.
It was more also the Steelers did, had a great game plan.
They did not let Jonathan Taylor get going at all and made Daniel Jones be a pocket passer.
and it didn't work out.
And they also just constantly threw to tight ends.
Yeah.
They had every tight end involved in the game playing today.
The Steelers' offense is not fixed in any way.
If you look at this score of this game,
this was a lot of the Steelers' defense finally winning them a game
where they got short fields because I think Aaron Rogers was still his air yardage.
Like the pass, I think it's average it was like 2.7 yards.
So it's still a lot of dump-offs, a lot of short throws.
but if Aaron Rogers, if he has a really good defense, that is a dangerous team.
So you just got to still be a really good defense.
How much credit do we give Jalen Ramsey, who I apparently stood up in front of the team on Saturday night and gave a speech?
And Rogers said afterward he felt something changed last night after Ramsey's speech.
Yeah, I mean, Rogers might have been peaking at that very moment and everything kind of came together.
I think you got to give Ramsey a lot of credit.
I think somebody had to do it.
Yeah.
He, I mean, that, he changed the whole course of the Steelers season.
There have been some great speeches out there, and I think you have to, we're going to monitor the Steelers moving forward, pre speech and post speech.
Yes.
Who do the Colts have next week?
Let's play a whose line is in any way with draft games.
The Colts have the Falcons.
The Falcons in Berlin.
In Berlin, Germany.
Falcons desperate?
Hmm.
Wait, don't, don't, I'm not looking.
I'm going to say Colts minus four?
I'm going to say
Colts
minus 3
It's Colts minus 6 and a half
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Falcons
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We thought it would be shorter
You got to take the 6 and a half
No I'm saying like I like the Colts
minus 6 and a half
But you thought the line would be 3
Yeah
so we're getting no oh yeah you're right you're right other way yep you're right got to take the falcons
heavy yeah it's my play of the week actually um okay next game we have the broncos and texans by the way
side note yeah it's been so nice waking up on sunday and not having a game early we're back to it
it sucks we're back to it i know it's been it has been nice broncos 18 Texans 15
a better version of Tim Tebow.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I'm saying Tim Tebow for the Broncos was awesome.
Tebow time was incredible.
I'm saying better version.
I've been saying this since he started.
Bo Nix sucked at the start of this game.
He was one for seven, three yards interception halfway through the second quarter.
Bo Nix in the fourth quarter just was like, oh yeah, I forgot I'm Bo Nix.
went nine for 16, 76 yards passing a touchdown, 36 yards rushing, the 25-yard
scramble, which put them in field goal range.
Bo Nix just needs to warm up.
He just needs to get, he needs to have a little back against the wall moment before he
can be like, yeah, you know what?
I got to start being Bo Nix again.
Yeah, I am a believer, but a lot of that is the T-Bow factor, where it's, yes, he plays
like shit, he makes you scratch your head, and then you watch him at the end of the game,
and you're like, this guy's a winner, and he's clutch as fuck, and that's what Bo Nix does.
Now, yeah, part of it had to do with the fact that he was playing against a really, really good defense.
Really good defense is awesome. The Broncos defense is awesome.
I was so happy the way this shook out because it's exactly how I envisioned this game going 18 to 15.
And when C.J. Stroud got hurt and Mills Mafia came back in the game, Davis Mills.
It felt like it was going to be a tough, tough ask for the Texans to win that game.
But yeah, two really good defenses going out.
So I'm not going to fault Bo Nix too much for wait until the fourth quarter.
to really turn into the good version of Bo
because I think just about every quarterback
will struggle with his Texans defense.
Yeah.
So yeah, it was just, it was, you know,
Bo kind of treading water for a while
and then waiting until the perfect time
load them into a false sense of security.
That's what Bo does.
And he still does, even when he started bad,
he has, he still will just be like,
I'm fucking, I'm throwing it deep.
Yeah.
A little Rex Grossman in him where it's like,
I'm going to throw it deep and I'm going to hit Cortland Sutton.
And I do have confidence in Bo Nix when he rolls out.
You're like, oh, there's a deep pass.
And the Broncos have won six in a row.
And it doesn't matter really how they've done it all types of way.
They've won it ugly against the Jets.
They won it in crazy fashion against the Eagles.
They blew out the Cowboys.
This one was a complete slog, but they found enough.
And their defense will keep them in every game until Bo Nix is like, yeah, this is time for me to be Bo Nix.
Yeah, the Broncos, they've won.
They've blown a couple teams out, kind of, but they play in a lot of ugly games.
games.
Yeah.
Like, that's, that's kind of their thing, is they're going to play in a shitload of ugly
games, and that will happen if they get to the playoffs, and they have, they've got
a lot of experience winning ugly, which is very good, very good for them.
They've got a good coach, too.
Think about, Sean Payton can win you some ugly games.
Yeah, the games they play are always kind of must watch because they're going to be either,
you know, last week they blew out the Cowboys that was fun to watch because they were just
electric, but the Eagles game was insane, the Giants game, obviously, the 30s.
three points in the fourth quarter this game even though it was a tough watch was tight the whole way
and like that's what you want to watch a close game and i do feel bad for cj stroud that was tough
that was not did they pick up the flag on that i think they did yeah because it wasn't an illegal hit
it was just a shitty like unfortunate that his head hit the ground so cj was sliding and then i forget
who it was from denver that was coming in gave him a shot like to the side ribs area the head snap back
bounced off the ground.
I saw some people comparing it to the hits that the, the,
the Texans were laying against Patrick Mahomes last year.
Or Trevor Lawrence, remember that one?
Or Trevor Lawrence.
That one was, though, dirty.
That one was late, dirty, all that stuff.
This one didn't feel like it was, like, malicious intent.
When you watch in slow motion, you can basically point out any play,
be like, he should have pulled up right here.
Yeah.
But then there's this pesky thing, like the laws of physics that makes it hard to do that.
So I don't, yeah, I don't think it was a dirty play by the Broncos at all.
Yeah, they did pay.
it up. They did pick up the flag in that
in that situation. Yeah, it sucks. I hope he's okay.
In that circumstance, I think what the refs should do is they should pretend that the flag
stands until C.J. Stroud leaves and goes into the tunnel. And then after he's going,
they're like, okay, we're going to pick this up. Nobody tells C.J. Yeah. I feel like the
Texan season looking at their schedule comes down to the next two weeks. If they can beat the
Jaguars and the Titans and hopefully C.J. Stroud is able to come back.
But if they can beat the, I think, actually, no, they have a bye week.
or no, no, they don't have a bye week.
I'm wrong.
They have the Jaguars and Titans
and then they have to play the Bills, Colts, and Chiefs.
So they have to get to five and five to have a chance.
Yep.
And their defense is so, so good.
Their offensive line is so, so bad.
The Texans should never ever,
they're actually the exact opposite of the Philadelphia Eagles.
They should never get to the one yard line.
Yeah.
Because twice they got to the one yard line and had to settle for field goals,
they ended up getting penalties, just getting stuffed run
after run after run. They're the exact opposite of the push-tush and the tush push and the eagles.
That's exactly what we saw like in their last two games. Like they keep getting to the one yard line
and they keep just running a dive up the middle and never, you know what? The tush push should be
banned except for the Texans. They should be allowed to do it. They should be the only team that's
allowed to use it. I don't think they would be able to use it. Probably not. I don't think they would
know how to use it. It would be a disaster. I think Mills could probably do it. Yeah. Hank, use that big
neck of his put the ball in his mouth have him stretch out where are the broncos on your radar
not not super high not super concerned oh really they're seven and two that's fine they've won
six in a row they've beaten some good teams on this stretch they're not on your radar they're on
the they're not high on the radar who's high on the radar colts chiefs bills i feel like i'd rather
play the broncos than the ravens in the playoffs i feel like if the colts are on your radar the
Broncos have to be on your radar?
It's teams you don't want to see in the playoffs.
Like the teams are the most concerned about seeing the playoffs.
The Broncos are not, like, they wouldn't overly concern me.
Going to Mile High would not concern you?
Well, historically, yeah, I guess.
Historically, the Patriots do not do well against the Broncos in my high, but no.
Okay.
I think, not a believer.
Yeah.
And, I mean, the Colts against the Broncos, they played each other.
The Colts won.
was that weird field goal thing at the very end of the game.
Like, the Broncos could have very easily beaten the Colts, but not higher.
You asked a question.
No, I know.
I know.
I wanted your answer.
It was good.
I mean, hey, listen, you answer how you answer.
I'm not judging your answer.
All right.
So, Hank, let's go through all the teams right now that are projected to make the playoffs if they
started today in the AFC.
Tell me which of these teams you would rather play than the Broncos.
Okay.
So you've got the bills, the Steelers.
the Chargers, the Colts, the Jaguars.
Jaguars?
You'd want to play more than the Broncos.
And, yeah, Chargers, I guess, is like kind of a toss-up.
Because the thing about the playoffs is, once you get in the playoffs,
every team in the playoffs is a playoff team.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
I know.
I know how it goes in the playoffs.
I'm well aware.
And I guess just for the sake of argument, we'll include the Chiefs in there.
Right.
The AFC is going to be tough.
Yeah.
It's going to be a dog.
I would love it if the Broncos, yeah, the Broncos can win their, actually, I don't know.
That's the thing.
It's like, I don't know how it shook up after the loss, but like last week it was projected Patriots chiefs first round, which would suck.
Yeah.
The Colts and Patriots have really kind of screwed up the AFC playoff picture if you go back to like August.
Yeah.
Because you think about it right now and the Ravens, the Texans, the Chiefs, and the Bengals all on the outside looking in.
Yeah.
It's pretty wild.
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today. Okay, Panthers 16, Packers 13. This was the other shocker of the day. The Carolina
Panthers are now five and four. Miao Mix is back. They're coming back. They're bringing the
podcast back. They're bringing it back. I don't know how I feel about this. I feel like you're in the
middle of a once in a lifetime hot streak. I know. For the pod, I mean, I don't think the pod was
round back when they were good they were i think they're four and one since they retired the pod yeah in the
lifetime of the pod this is the best that the panthers have played you got a this is a nobody move
situation it's a nobody move situation i agree this was uh the biggest upset in terms of point
spread since the titans beat the miami dolphins in 2023 that monday night football game when
brable went for two yeah so on 14 very smart but 13 and a half point underdogs outright winner
in Lambo
it was the shocking
the shocking result of the day
I'll let's first start
with the Panthers their defense
played great Rico Dowdle is
awesome yep they
Dave Canales I think he had to do
the right thing of hey you don't
lose your job because
of injury when Chubba Hubbard went out
but after two games
of being like yeah you know what you don't lose your job
to injury maybe you do lose your job to injury because
Rico Dowdell is by far their best offensive player,
and they need to give him the ball a lot.
And they did 25 carries, 130 yards, two touchdowns.
He also had the big run to set up the game-winning field goal.
Just let Rico lose because the passing attack for the Panthers is not.
Bryce Young had a Josh Rosen stat line today.
He had 11 for 20 for 102 yards.
Yeah, but with Rico Dowdell, it's pretty clear that's what their offense should be.
Yeah.
And he had another amazing game.
today and he also had the bonehead move of the game, which almost cost his team to win.
So he scored a touchdown and he did the key and peel celebration where he did two pumps
when he was hump in the air. The refs flagged him. Apparently that's not in the NFL rulebook.
That's in the key and peel rule book. But the NFL should adopt it because that that celebration
has become so widespread and the understanding that it's two pumps is okay. Three pumps is a
loose gesture. Yeah. That he thought he could get away with it, got flagged.
the extra point gets pushed back
and then they missed the extra point short
which I haven't seen in a very long time
in the NFL but then he made up for it
then he made up for it and he got him back
and things have to feel pretty good if you're a Carolina Panthers fan
yeah this is a shocking win
like you you didn't really luck into this
you played great defense right
and the Packers well the Packers had
their red zone offense was bad
they had I think four trips and the two of them
were turnovers one on turnover on downs
the other was a fumble
Tucker Craft getting hurt
which I think was an ACL is really shitty
because he was obviously having a breakout year
and yeah
the Packers are just a weird team
because I think they're very good
but then they've had
this was almost like the Bengals first half
they had coming out of the by week but it was the
full game and their offense
looked clunky and they're like
they're in this weird boomer bust where it's either
a deep shot or
they're not progressing the ball
down the field in like a normal
fashion and you thought after the Steelers game that second half especially they were going to let
Jordan Love just be awesome because he was awesome in that game it was his birthday turned 34 today
and no it didn't happen he looked bad he had one of the funniest most ridiculous pass attempts
yeah that didn't end up in an interception where he had 11 seconds running around in the backfield
and then threw it to no one was in the screenshot except a panther's defender and he dropped it
Yeah, it was just like, I'm going to throw this up.
Maybe we'll get a passer or fierce, but it was directly, like, it was right in the guy's hands.
And he didn't drop it on purpose, but it actually worked out better than he did drop it.
Yeah.
So good job by the Panthers defense.
And Max, in your shoes, you wish that the Packers had won this game, right?
No.
You don't care?
I'm happy they lost.
Oh, you're playing them next week on Monday night football.
Yeah.
Yeah, because they will probably be a little bit more focused.
This could have been a look-ahead game for them.
the panther or for the packers i i am happy they lost this game every every loss counts when
you're going for the top of the nfc that is true yeah that is true and i i think the packers
will still find themselves there at the end of the season like they'll be right in the conversation
but this is uh not a great day for packers fans they just feel like they have so much on offense
then they don't do the little things well like i don't know it just it just i mean it's a lot
of credit to the panthers defense the panthers defense the panthers defense was on
Awesome. I don't like Josh Jacobs is great. I don't know why they don't run the ball more, even more with him under center. And like, it's just, yeah, it's their, they're a confusing team because they've looked like the best team in football. And then they have two losses and a, and a tie against, I mean, the Panthers are five and four, but are the Panthers the top team in the NFL? Probably not. Even Panthers fans would say that. Yeah. The Browns are not good. And the Cowboys are.
you know, not great. So those three
against those three teams, they've had
bad performances. I feel like the Panthers
might be a nice little story this year.
I mean, that's what we're talking about. Five and four. Five and four. Nice little story
for the Carolina Panthers. Also, Michael Parsons just
wasn't there. No zero pressures. First time in his career. Yeah. So
he does have, I think going into this week, he had the most pressures of anybody
in the NFL. Yeah. But yeah, zero against the Panthers. I think it's
also like the most Packers
fans are probably pretty frustrated. The Packers have, it feels like every game they come out
slow and then they, they're in these spots where they have scored in their last six games,
three points in the first half scores for the Packers in their last six games, three points,
13 points, 10 points, six, seven, six. This offense is too good to not be scoring a couple
touchdowns in each half. I agree. I feel like LaFleur needs to get back.
to his weird creative shit that he was doing
last year. When Malik Willis
was starting for the Packers, the offense was
crazy. Yeah. It was fun. It was
interesting. It was all these different wrinkles.
Now he's like, well, I think I got the horses,
so I'll just beat him in a horse race. Yeah. I enjoyed
this game. It was, uh,
there was also a beach ball delay. Did you see that?
I saw that. And the guy that got it. It's very windy.
I got a question about the guy that picked up the beach ball.
Is that, was that just not Mike McCarthy?
Who? The guy that picked up the beach ball.
Well, the player picked up the beach ball. The guy on the sidelines.
And then gave it to a rep.
and then the ref gave it to so i don't know let me see look at the guy i feel i think mike
mccarthy might have snucking out on the sidelines yeah losses by the way when you wear
throwback jerseys are are especially bad because you i agree i agree i agree you remember them more
because you're like oh yeah we're wearing those yep i agree okay all right all right so look at this
guy beach ball this is not Mike McCarthy 100% well obviously it's not actually Mike McCarthy
looks like but it looks just a little the beard doesn't look like him obviously he's the rest of it
the beard is uh Mike McCarthy doesn't have a beard like that is Mike McCarthy even have a beard
yeah he's got a beard but it's yeah he's got a beard I guess I don't even know what Mike McCarthy
looks like anymore you miss him for a year and it's just over oh yeah yeah yeah a beard that guy was
too thin it's thin for Michael that guy was stout he had he had he had
had McCarthy's neck.
Yeah, so McCarthy light.
Might be a little...
I guarantee you that guy is gone as Mike McCarthy for Halloween.
Yeah, probably.
And do you think he knew, like, that's my job?
I got to take care of this?
Yeah.
I like when they do the throwback sweatshirts, too.
That's kind of cool.
Yeah, the Packers throwbacks, I don't...
I don't really understand what was going on there.
I actually didn't think they were the worst of throwbacks that have happened,
because whenever you do those old-timey ones,
it's always like, what is this, like, the Steelers last week?
These ones in terms of the old throwbacks weren't the worst.
But again, you can't lose games in the throwbacks and they just, it's seared in your brain.
Like these are throwbacks to like the 1920s.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
These are way throwbacks.
Yeah, yeah.
These are like when the chiefs wear the old like Dallas uniforms.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Too far.
You can't throw it back that far.
But the pants.
Listen, I will be listening to Meow Mix.
I will be listening to Meow Mix.
Yeah.
If it's selfish.
Like, it's selfish.
They're being selfish.
I don't know, let the boys have a little fun.
They've gone through so much shit.
But what if the Panthers just, like, never win a game?
It's selfish.
If you guys stop doing this podcast because your team was losing
and then your team went on a run.
We would have just never gotten off the ground.
But yeah.
Would you then be like, all right, we've got to do the podcast again,
even though we're currently winning and...
Yeah, no, it is selfish.
It's a little selfish.
It's a delicate balance because you want to...
You want to enjoy the good times.
But as a fan of Meow Mix,
I want to hear the boys chop it up
I've listened to
You listen to them cancel their podcast
Yeah I listen to a full episode
They're gonna lose probably four in a row
And then cancel it again
And then you'll listen to that
No I'm gonna listen to this one
Because they beat the Packers
I am definitely gonna be
I'm gonna do a
I'm gonna grab some popcorn
And listen to the breakdown
Of what the Panthers did to the Packers
I think they just got to play like
You gotta record a podcast
That's just literally cats meowing at each other
And then sell ads into it
And then drop that on the timeline
And then people
you'll get the ad revenue for it. It'll be fine.
But you can't, you can't hop back on.
If you're a real fan of the Carolina Panthers, as I know the Miam X guys are,
you have to realize some things are bigger than the pod.
Yeah. Do you know fun Bryce Youngstatt? He has 11 career wins.
Nine have ended with a fourth quarter or OT game winning drive.
Is he Mr. Clutch?
He is Mr. Clutch. He might be Mr. Clutch.
All his wins basically are just him being clutch.
I'm so pumped when good stuff happens to Bryce Young
because for a while he was just like the saddest looking quarterback
and nothing was going his way
and you could tell he had the weight of the whole world on him
so much pressure especially when CJ was lighting it up
and now I'm just happy for Bryce
and now we get to do like a hey what would have happened
if Bryce Young didn't get injured
they probably still would have lost the bills
they might have but still they're 5 and 1
or no they're not they're 5 and 2
since week 3
They lost their first two games of the season.
They look pretty good since.
I mean, they're at least going in the right direction.
They are.
I actually found the quote from Rico Dowdle after the game
when he was talking about the two pumps.
This is what he said.
From my understanding and everything I've learned,
we go over stuff like this every week in the meeting room.
I definitely think you're supposed to get two pumps.
Hopefully I don't get a fine.
The NFL should have clarified that.
Yes.
I actually put that on Roger Goodell for not stepping in and be like,
hey, I know that you guys have seen a lot of stuff in the news.
a lot of stuff on TV, just so you know, we have a zero pump policy in the NFL.
Yeah, yeah.
One pump is too much.
Yeah.
Good for the Panthers.
Yeah.
Keep pounding.
I'm excited for them.
Five and four.
You did not think after the first two weeks of the season, they'd be five and four.
And they do have, like, some of the most hilarious games because they beat the Falcons 30 to
nothing.
They lost the Patriots 42, 13.
Like, they beat the Packers today.
They lost the bills 40 to 9.
And it's just all over the place.
It is.
And this is the first time in 12 matchups with the Packers that they've held the Packers
to less than 24 points.
It was a pretty impressive streak.
Yeah.
Going against Carolina.
Dude, their defense and their draft pick, Nick Squarton from Texas A&M, he was good.
Like, they kind of got some dudes again.
They do.
They're getting a little dude heavy.
Good for the Panthers.
And the Packers, I think that their offense is going to look, it has to look a lot
different without Tucker Craft.
Yeah.
We kind of anointed him
Best tied in the league.
Top of the pop.
Cream the crop, tight end.
This is a juicy game now
with the Eagles and Packers.
Let's play
Whose Line is Anyway
from Draft Kings?
Where is it?
It's at Lambo.
Max will be there.
I already know what it is.
I'm going to say
Packers minus
two and a half.
One and a half.
The Eagles minus one and a half.
PFT is correct.
Two and a half?
Packers minus two and a half.
That's birds, baby.
Okay.
I mean, it's a must win for the Packers.
I know what you're saying, Max, that you want them to lose, but PFT's right.
Like, you would have liked him.
Yeah.
No, he's right.
No, he's right.
I'm right about this.
The NFL, they prepare the same every week.
That's just not true.
That's just not true.
Listen, as a fan...
That means nothing.
What do you mean?
That means nothing.
A team is winning?
This isn't a high school basketball.
Yes, I agree.
Okay.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, let me clarify.
What? Let me clarify what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that it would actually make a difference as to, like, what happens during the game.
I'm saying as a fan and being able to, like, rationalize your way into victories before they happen.
That's the better thing to happen.
It's obviously more, like, if you're fighting for the top of, it actually has somebody to do with the game.
Well, this is why Mike Tomlin's spots exist.
But going into today, the Eagles were in second and the NFC, now they're in first in the NFC, that was a good loss for the Eagles.
Yes.
what if you what if it costs you a loss to the packer then they would have won your
loss that's not true yeah it's not yeah yep if you if you lose to the packers that's that's
a worse would you rather odd question question can I ask a question then would you rather have
the packers beat the panthers and the eagles beat the packers or the panthers beat the packers
and the packers beat the eagles it doesn't fucking matter it does it does that doesn't
why why do we always win money with mike tomlin when he's when he's a favorite on the road
You go against him when he's a home underdog
You bet on him
That has nothing to do with what you what you're saying
Yes because when they're when the what does that have to do with the
When the Steelers week
Because when the Steelers are feeling themselves and they go in
Mike Tomlin's like oh this team's good
That is a different stat than what you just said
No I'm saying like the when the Steelers are rolling
They were rolling going into the Bengals on Thursday night
They were favorites
But that's the teams maybe not feeling great
And then when they when they lose a couple games
Then they're fucking all right we got a fucking
win. The spread change zero of whether they lost this game or won.
But you're saying let down spots and like in desperation spots don't exist?
I'm saying they do. They do. If the, if the, if the Packers were in the AFC, if the Packers were in the AFC, I would agree with you. I would have preferred them to lose this game. It is not more valuable. Max.
than a team that you're fighting for the top of the NFC. If the Packers beat you, it will be.
Max, you're wrong. Max, you're wrong. You guys, you guys. You're wrong.
Lose your fucking franchises, don't fucking get it.
You're wrong.
You're wrong because...
Thank you, hang.
No, because if you lose to the Packers, guess what the first tiebreaker is?
Head to head.
Head to head.
They have a fucking tie.
Head to head.
Oh.
What?
There will be no tie breaker unless the Eagles also get a tie.
That could happen.
Yeah, you could get a tie.
You weren't thinking about the tie.
You weren't thinking about the tie.
You weren't thinking about the tie.
You could tie any game.
I knew about the tie.
the time. You guys know that you're fucking wrong.
No, we're not. No, head-to-head matters.
We're dead right that, like, if you're about to play them in a big spot.
But it's more important for the top of the NFC to lose.
Yeah. Okay. Well, I would like him, I would like him fat and happy if I were you.
Yeah. If you lose this game, it will be because the Packers lost the Panthers. Yes, it will.
No, it won't. No, it won't. It will have nothing to do with that.
Yes. Hank. Hank. Question. Let's say the Packers beat the Panthers by 20.
I can't take you seriously with you.
Amish it's getting ridiculous in the way you're wearing our headphones why were you Amish for
Halloween I don't know this is when it was it was an easy costume where let's be
Amish I hope you get canceled for this and then what we have a lot of Amish listeners I don't
think they can listen so that's it might walk by someone who's listening and be like
do but I'm not worried about Nadeu but yeah it was it was I looked too Amish everyone was
like you look scarily Amish and then you know waking up yesterday I
I was like, fuck.
Yeah.
I'm stuck.
Yeah.
Well, you got to shave your whole face.
I thought about that, but I think I'm just going to go Amish for like a couple days and then I'll be back.
Okay.
You could shave until like a chin strap would look tough.
Chin strap would look so tough.
No, I like, I think I think it looks good.
Okay.
Well, I don't, I feel like it is a little.
If you think it looks good, then that's good.
It's a little cultural appropriation.
Okay, what were you going to say?
If the Packers beat the Pandas by 20, would they be prepared?
for the Eagles any differently than if they lost.
Yes.
How?
They'd be like, we got this.
We got this.
This is easy.
You're really, you really.
We got this.
We're on a roll right now.
This,
what your point is, so Max's point about the whole standings thing, whatever, that's
fine.
You're saying that let down spots and desperation spots don't exist because that's just
wrong.
Let down spots and desperation spots might exist.
But after you get let down, it doesn't change.
They're not desperate.
Oh, if you get, they're desperate.
If you don't want to lose two games in November.
Desperate than they were.
You don't want to lose two games in November.
November, buddy.
The lions also lost.
What?
Didn't they?
The lions?
Yeah, we're not talking about the lions.
Because they're in the, that is their, their fight for the division.
No, but, did, no.
We're talking about the Packers.
The Packers, Hank, Hank, you would agree that today was a letdown spot, right?
For the Packers?
Yes.
Okay, so letdown spots do happen.
But that does not change their preparation.
Now they have desperation.
No, why, they have the same lead in the division as they did going into today.
They're desperate.
You don't want to lose two in a row in November.
Don't forget about.
What the fuck does that?
That means exactly what I said.
You know what?
This is embarrassing that we have the Bears and the Commanders fans fighting on one side
and the Patriots and the Eagles fans fighting on the other.
That should let the listeners know.
I'm more.
I actually don't care about you right now, Max.
The fact that Hank is sitting there like an Amish fuck and being like let down spots don't exist is insane.
They do exist.
Let down.
Hank just admitted that they exist.
I did.
That's why Hungry Dogs exist, Max.
Letdowns exist, but the preparation, like the...
Ezekiel, whatever your fucking name is.
Jeb.
Jeb.
Jebbri.
What did you even do?
Like, Halloween, you just walked around.
Did you, like, do an accent?
I was like, I'm on Rumspring.
Did anyone laugh?
Yeah.
Did you have rum with you?
People were, people were loving it, yeah.
And then did you guys, like, dance or do anything?
Or like...
Yeah.
Where's Amish?
Did you milk?
She's never heard of, like, let's be Amish for Halloween.
I mean, we're doing Halloween.
Halloween judgment now?
No, I'm just, I've never seen it.
It's a good costume.
Any of our Amish listeners, you can be Hank next year.
Come at me.
Do you think they do Halloween?
No.
No, no chance.
They're listening.
They could be illegally on Rum Spring.
Yeah, sneaking off.
Yeah.
What if there's an Amish, I want to hear from one of our Amish AWLs who, like, I did
Rum Spring, I didn't get drunk at all.
I just, I just binged PMT.
I wonder if they can have, like, Bluetooth speakers in their horse and buggy.
That would rock.
That would rock.
All right, where are we at in this debate?
There are letdown spots.
They exist.
PFT and I won?
Max should have been hoping to God that the Packers want to die.
Yeah, yeah.
You should have been hoping the Packers killed the Panthers,
so then they would have been not ready for the Eagles.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, boy.
Oh, no.
All right, well, we're going to break this real quick.
He's kicking his leg around.
He's grabbing his knee.
Why is he in this game?
This is so stupid.
Jay and Daniels just got hurt.
We're watching the end of the game.
I was a fool to think that this season would be any different.
I don't know.
Maybe it's something with his knee.
You guys can't hear the cave.
They are screaming in pain.
They must be ahead of us.
I don't like don't even want to look.
Why was he in the game?
Guys, I think maybe rooting for a football team is just not for me.
I don't understand
No I think it was his leg
I think that
His left leg he hasn't moved
I think I'm a college guy now
Oh he's praying
He's praying
I'm praying
I'm praying
I'm praying
Why was he in the game
And Hank's over here
That's like malpractice
That he was in this game
Beard in his costume
All right
Well I'll see you guys in
2027
is it you remember how awesome last year was they just faded to black this sucks this sucks
I think I think I just got to quit rooting for football teams I think I got just got to be a
full-time J-M-Uke fan I don't know I I I know that like this but there's just no point to have
your franchise quarterback in the game down 31 running too that's fucking dumb yeah
Yeah, I mean, this is a stupid game.
The game was over in the second quarter.
This is the kind of game that I don't know what Dan Quinn did this week.
The defense certainly didn't do anything.
And, yeah, when you get embarrassed like this in prime time,
Josh Harris on the sidelines in the second quarter,
I wouldn't be sleeping too nice if I was Dan Quinn tonight.
Or definitely not Joe Witt.
Joe Witt's probably out.
Yeah, but that was a bad deal.
I just got to.
I hope it's not serious
Okay, we'll wait for an update
Do we want to go
Oh, is this, people are saying
Are people are saying elbow?
Yeah, I saw an arm
Oh, really?
Okay, that's, that's better than a knee
I just, I just, I just refer
To bring the cart out
Wait
I don't, would they bring the car up?
I think elbows, I think you'd rather an arm
Injury than a knee, like right injury
Right elbow
Wait, let's see it again.
Oh, yeah, oh, no, we miss that part.
Oh, no.
We miss that part.
Oh, okay.
Yep.
Oh, fuck.
We completely miss that live.
Yeah, that was, that was, oh, man.
That was backwards.
Oh, that's bad.
Oh, that's bad.
This is about as bad as tonight could have gone.
I actually do think, though,
I just opened up Twitter and the first thing I saw was Siwu Kim Tracker.
Yeah.
He's walking fine.
He tweeted, oh, no, PFT.
Thanks, Seawu Kim Tracker.
I, that's better than a knee.
Left elbow?
Yes.
Or is that right elbow?
It's left elbow.
Is it 100%?
Are we sure?
Yeah, he's got his left elbow in a cast.
Okay.
That's 100% better than a knee.
Anything leg.
That is better than a knee.
Yeah.
I mean, that's, he might be out for a long time, but you don't, like, legs are what you don't want hurt.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
we'll get to that game
or do you want to talk about the game right now
I pretty much said everything
so it was just over when it started
the commander's defense is not very good
the Seahawks look
unstoppable right now
Sam Darnold was perfect in the first half
he was 16 for 16 I think
to start the game insane
it was just a crazy start
so here's a fun little stat
Sam Darnold tonight one of two quarterbacks
in the last 20 seasons
with four total touchdowns and a perfect passer rating
in the first half of a primetime game.
The other was Mike Vic of the Eagles in week 10, 2010 at Washington.
And that's what this game felt like right off the start.
Like it was like the same type of game script right from the get-go.
Yeah, bad defensive showing from the commanders.
I really feel like Joe Witt's probably going to get fired.
Because choosing to run man coverage when you just got guys whose strategy is just
like commit pass interference and hope they don't call it on you every single time.
Yep.
I don't know why we have those guys in man coverage right now.
Yep.
So over the last four quarters, the commander's defense has allowed seven touchdowns.
This is at halftime, by the way.
Seven touchdowns, one field goal, 601 total yards, one punt, one kneel down, and they were
outscored 52 to seven.
That's in the last four quarters of football from the second half of Monday night to the first
half of Sunday night. Not good. So the Seahawks are really good. I think that's, that was my big
takeaway. I mean, obviously the Jaden Daniels injury is a big problem. But the Seahawks, they're a really
good team. They just are. Sam Donald's playing his ass off. Jackson Smith and Njigba is, like,
we've already said it, one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, and their defense is really good.
And Mike McDonald's just a really good coach. Yeah.
So I'm very impressed
to Seahawks. They also should always wear these
uniforms. They're the coolest uniforms out there.
What, um,
draft pick. I was pissed off that
they had this stinker of a game wearing these awesome uniforms.
Yeah. During Art Monk night, no less.
Retired his jersey at halftime. You might ask like,
well, why wasn't his jersey already retired? I'd say that would be,
that would have been a fair point. Yep.
To ask that question. Yeah. Yeah, ruined throwback
Jersey night.
draft pick tankathon
I'm in familiar territory
yeah this also
I know there's something about
the Bears and commanders playing but it is now
two for two in seasons going down after replay
we can't play next year
we play next year I don't know but this
we probably play next year
they just are forcing the game
it was so cool being in the NFC championship game
and that's probably as good as it's going to get
no you can't so I hope
I hope to get back there one day
If you get a high draft pick
Sometimes hang
Listen one thing I know about Hank
And watching football
He watches with a championship mentality
He understands
What championship pedigree and championship DNA is like
And all those times that he said
That a loser franchise
Nothing good is going to happen
Your quarterback's going to be injury prone
Drake May is going to win a lot of super
I should have listened to Hank
Because Hank he
He's been there
He's been there
I'm a shake
Hank was right
I was wrong
You'll be back
What uh
What's
Max your
You're your NFC East foe
Were you
Were you even worried about the commanders this year?
It was
Going into the year I was
Yeah
As of late
I have
I have not been too worried about them
Lions next week
Yeah
You play Lions next week
How many more national TV
So we got national TV
Next week
Then we got the
The dolphin
Right now the way
The dolphins could beat us in Spain, for sure.
Especially the Spain factor.
Two of them might be back when he plays against us.
And then after that, we were playing the Cowboys on Christmas Day.
We got the Broncos after the Dolphins.
Oh, Broncos Monday night?
No, that's Sunday night.
It's a Sunday night football.
It'll be flexed out probably.
Lions's Game of the Week is.
All right.
Yeah, it's afternoon.
It's late game of the week.
I forgot you guys are going to go bleach blonde then.
for that Sunday night game
Yep
And then
The commanders are going to ruin Christmas
That'll be fun
Wait
Thanksgiving Sunday night
Yeah the Sunday night
Of Thanksgiving
Is when the Broncos play the commanders
November 30th
What
I completely forgot about that
I completely forgot about
I just looked at the schedule
I don't think I'm going to be tan
You got to get a tanner here
We got to get the spray tan
Spray tan lady
Yeah you get it
She got to call up the spray tan lady
You got a spray tan and bleach blonde
And wear pop collars
And like pink shirts
Although what
What
All right
It's not dumber than you look right now
Yeah no I'm gonna look good
Why did you wear the
Did you not
Did you shower this morning
Yeah this was my outfit on Friday
Why did you get back in your outfit?
I don't know
I was just like if I'm gonna look on it
I might as well look on this.
I thought we were doing a costume stream.
Drew Locke is in the game.
You know what sucks is, uh, well, wait, maybe some good news.
Elbow dislocation is what Dr. Dan's saying.
Yeah. Dr. David Chow just said, by video, it's elbow dislocation.
Ligaments torn, hope to avoid fracture, fingers crossed, not season ending.
Okay. Okay.
That might be, that might be, if it's not season ending, that is the most gruesome looking
injury that is not season anything that I've ever seen.
It was so disgusting for his able to go
that direction.
So that's good.
Maybe bring him home, Kirk Cousins.
Really, now the season just becomes
draft pick.
Draft pick and spoiler.
Draft pick, spoiler, and
figure out what are coaching staffs going to look like
moving forward because Joe Witt,
what a bad performance by the defense tonight?
Joe Witt, not, yeah, not good.
I mean, Sam Donald was perfect.
I think, especially because the NFC,
I think you're going to have to have 10 wins to make the playoffs.
It doesn't feel like nine wins.
Right now, the Bears and the Panthers are the 8 and 9,
and they both have five wins.
So, yeah.
If you're Josh Harrison, you're standing behind Dan Quinn on the sidelines,
and you see Jaden Daniels get severely injured,
are you thinking to yourself, is this a guy?
Are you thinking, is this,
the guy? Is this a guy to be the coach? Oh. Like that's a bad, that's a bad mistake by Dan Quinn.
I agree. If you watch this game, yes, the Seahawks were awesome. Their offense looks really,
really good. They can score from anywhere. Sam Darnel looks unstoppable. But the one valuable asset that
you have watching this game, the one good player that you can circle and be like, that guy is going to
lead our team in the future, to get him injured in the fourth quarter of a blowout, that seems like
it would be something that in prime time that an owner would have a serious problem with.
And add to it, the way Jaden Daniels was playing tonight because Terry's out, because Luke McCaffer
got hurt, he was running a lot. And that's one of those situations where you have to stop the
player from, like, hurting themselves kind of thing. Like, he's not going to, Jane Daniels isn't
going to go half speed and be like, I'm just going to stand in the pocket in a blowout. So you got
to just take him out of the game. Yeah. Yeah, very, very dumb. And the, I don't, I don't,
want to add another worst part, PFT, but there's no way Magic Johnson's watching this game
because he's probably partying with the Dodgers, so you're probably going to get a tweet about
Jayden Daniels on, like, Wednesday.
Tomorrow, it's going to be, yeah, after the parade.
Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be a very delayed tweet about Jaden Daniels.
Yeah.
Okay.
I hope he's okay.
I hope it's just no ligament.
That is way better than legs.
Left elbow.
Way better than legs.
Yeah, left elbow is fine.
I thought it was his leg that got bent.
I didn't, I wasn't even looking at his arms in the first.
when we were watching the replay.
Because when he fell to the ground,
he also kind of grabbed down at his leg.
And he didn't move his left legs.
I was like, oh, fuck.
Yeah.
But, okay, next up,
uh,
we got 49ers,
34,
Giants 24.
Mike Jones.
Mac Jones,
talk about another quarterback.
He,
the ball did not hit the ground for Mac Jones in the first half.
He was 14 for 14,
14, 143 yards,
two touchdowns.
Christian McCaffrey.
Oh, yeah,
remember him.
He's fucking awesome.
He had 173 yards in two.
touchdowns, 16th career game with a rushing and receiving touchdown for Christian McCaffrey.
He's the man.
And I, like, the Giants just don't have enough people.
Is that fair?
Like, Jackson Dart is good.
He's elusive.
He's, he makes plays.
I think if you're a Giants fan, you're excited about Jackson Dart, but in terms of,
like, overall, you just don't have enough guys.
Yeah.
You don't have enough guys to compete with a team like the Giants who are injured, but
playing still good competent football for 49ers yeah no you're right like I still think that
Jackson there was one play that he had though where he has to be aware of guys that are behind
him mm-hmm he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head and he just kind of stood there
and everybody in the in the crowd saw sack coming I don't know how he didn't fumble it
but overall I'd say Jackson darts playing as well as you could hope given the circumstances
um for the 49ers Kyle Shanahan was being real weird after the game when he was talking about
Brock Purdy. He's like, we have no idea when he's going to be able to play again. I think what
it comes down to is that Brock Purdy should have been long-term IR. What was that, week two,
week three, whenever that was. And Purdy was just like, no, I'm going to try to play through
this turf toe. That was like the week of the turf toe. And every other quarterback was like,
no, we have to be out for a while. We might need surgery. Purdy's just like, no, fuck it. I'll play
through it. Yeah. Which he's a tough guy, but he probably shouldn't have done that. Soft benching?
Soft benching for Purdy right now? Yeah. Is he being soft bench? I think, no, I think
Mac Jones is a soft starter.
He's playing well.
Yeah.
Like, he was, he was very good in the first half, and he, I mean, he was good overall in the game,
and they did remember that Christian McCaffrey is one of the best players in the NFL.
He joined Walter Payton and Marshall Fock as the only players in NFL history with double-digit,
100-yard rushing, 50-plus-yard receiving games.
So pretty damn good.
He had two touchdowns, what did I say, 176?
173 yards from scrimmage.
Yeah.
Really fucking good.
I have a question for everyone.
Brian Daibel.
So, smart of Brian Daibel to be beyond obsessed with Jackson Dart.
If you've watched any of the videos, he is, I mean, we saw the Blue Tent video.
I also saw a clip from practice where he basically was like, you're my best friend.
We're best friends, right?
smart to link himself to Jackson's dart but Brian Dable as a head coach I think Brian Dable's good
I think he's a good coach football coach Brian Dable as a head coach though he started his first
year seven and two after nine games since then 2023 2 and 7 20 24 2 and 7 20 25 2 and 7
Brian Dable's season has basically been over
Before Halloween
The last three years
Does he get another year
If he
Again he's smart
He's like
He probably went up to Jackson Dart
Was like do we have an alliance?
Yeah
Like I got your back
You got mine
Yeah he's he
For a couple weeks
He thought that the team was gonna be good enough
I think to get him to a point
Where he wouldn't be fired
But then they kept getting injured
And they lost a bunch of guys
And now it's like
I just better
I better hope that this
This is my best friend.
Yeah.
The Jackson Dark goes to Mr. Mara and says something because there was a...
Yeah, he had the graphic Brian Daibble and Jackson Dart dating.
Yeah, he loves him.
He absolutely loves him.
And he sees, like, his future in Jackson Dart.
It's smart by him.
Very smart by him.
But you can't get away from the planes that are flying banners over the stadium.
And today we had a Mr. Mara, enough is enough.
Please Clean House banner that was being flown over the stadium.
And that's tough.
I didn't think that the Giants were going to be in this position again,
but here we are, two and seven, third year in a row.
That said, I would probably put this team number one or maybe number two
if we're power ranking the three, two, and seven Giants teams.
So one year was the Tommy DeVito.
Yep.
Remember they beat the Packers on Monday football?
Tommy DeVito Mania was crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
And then last year was just Daniel Jones.
Yep.
So I would put.
And then benching them and then cutting them.
I would put maybe Tommy DeVito year number one, this year number two,
last year number three.
Yeah, because remember this year
did have some Russell Wilson.
It had some Russell Wilson.
We watched a little too much Russell Wilson.
Too much Ross.
And even though Dart looks like he's probably the future,
still.
Yeah.
It's not the worst two and seven that you've seen.
Am I,
I'm realizing that I'm just,
I'm repeating this take,
but like the Giants throwback uniforms were awesome.
Am I just an old man?
What, like, just go with the awesome uniforms.
Those are great helmets.
Yeah.
I saw James on the sidelines.
He looked so sick.
Mm-hmm.
Just go with him.
them why don't they just go with them i don't know they should it's fucking annoying
nineers though they're i wonder what trade deadline is this week correct is it let's see
when is i believe it's this week i believe tuesday we'll see if the niners try to try to get
some type of help on defense because they do need it otherwise they're probably a playoff
team because they're still really well coached and they have enough guys that yeah
they just need to get and their schedule isn't too too tough down the stretch so maybe maybe they
add someone i don't know who's trey hendricksson is hurt but not but and the bengals aren't going to
trade them but they should the 49ers should definitely look to make a move they're so they're somehow
still a very good team right right and it's a testament to kail shanahan maybe his best coaching job
just just get a get a guy on defense to help out and and hope that you know you can just play
outside of your mind come
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Okay, next up, Hank, Patriots 24, Falcons 23.
Thoughts.
ugly win
but you guys sometimes you got to win ugly
maybe like a letdown spot
it was a lot
Patriots are the every
every game is a letdown spot
uh
huh or we're in letdown
I said that on I said that on Friday
I said let down spots exist
I was more talking about like
teams don't prepare any differently
like they're and they're pro teams
yeah they come and they prepare the same
okay but win but ugly win
felt like you guys were cruising to an easy win
and then that strip sack happened
and at the end of the half and it completely changed
the course of the game. Yeah, we were
we felt like we were dominating, we were up two
scores and cruising, like you said.
Drake made did not look like
he looked a little sloppier
than he has the last like five weeks, like he missed
a couple throws, he had a pretty bad
interception.
He's been sacked a lot. He got sacked 16 times
the last three games.
And yeah, the fumble was bad,
but they found a way to win and that's
that's a good sign for a team that's
you know, looking to make a playoff run.
So even in a game like this, Hank, this was his eighth straight game with 100 plus
passer rating.
Yeah.
So do you know the other quarterbacks that have done that?
I'm going to guess Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rogers, Patrick Mahomes.
I don't think Mahomes is done.
Scrub.
Joe Montana?
Lamar Jackson.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Pretty good company to keep.
And, yeah, I think he still looked fine today.
That was a weird fumble that he had.
He has a couple, you know what?
He's a goofball fumbler.
I've seen him have a couple of goofball.
He had another fumble.
He recovered a football.
I know.
To start the second half, he had almost did it again.
So for the Falcons, though, Drake London.
Beast.
Unreal.
Absolute beast.
And if you look from, I think, like, week four is when he started to turn it on this season.
Since week four, I would put Drake London in my top five.
in the NFL.
His, I'm going to say strongest hands.
Yeah.
In the NFL.
Like, some of those catches, he had three touchdowns, and they were just insane
catches that, like, guys don't usually make or they bobble.
Yeah.
He was just snatching them out of the air.
So, what's his hand size?
It's got to be enormous.
It's got to be huge.
Got to be huge.
Can you look that up for us?
I thought about my top five.
Okay.
Feel free to embrace debate.
Okay.
I got Jefferson one.
This is right now?
I, about 30 seconds ago.
Okay.
Jefferson 1
Disagree already
Jamar Chase 2
Okay
JSN 3
Yeah JSM 1
Pooka Nakua 4
Okay
Drake London 5
At this very moment
At this moment
Yep
If you were to get a guy
For a game today
Those are my top 5
Okay guys you are missing
That I would say
People are going to get upset about
CD Lamb
Great player
Okay
CD Lamb
definitely should probably be considered for that spot.
I've considered him.
Maybe even George Pickens.
Both of those guys.
Amman Ra.
Great player.
And you had Puka, right?
I had Pucca.
He was four.
Coulin's been really good.
Sutton's been good.
And yeah, I mean, otherwise, yeah, the order is a little different.
If we're just going right now, Jackson Smith and the Jigma has been so, so good.
He's been awesome again tonight.
But yeah, that's a pretty good list.
Yeah, I like that list a lot.
Because Drake London, I mean, the stuff he was doing today was there's no chance the Falcons would have been close to this game.
Yeah.
If it wasn't for him just sticking his hands up and everything just sticking to him.
A.J. Brown?
A.J. Brown, yeah.
Devante Smith?
A.J. Brown, that's a guy that would look good for the Patriots.
We'd love that.
They already tried that.
They did?
They offered a second in Kishon Booty.
Oh.
How he said, thanks, but no thanks.
What about Buffalo?
Did Howie do it again this weekend?
People are telling me he's ass.
I don't think he's been a healthy scratch in like every game.
Good win though for you, Hank.
Even though John Parker Romo, this is the young Hokoo.
I mean, it's a curse.
Yeah.
You shouldn't have gotten rid of him.
He was a fan favorite, an NFL favorite.
I also think that it might just be the curse of any kicker who's playing for the Falcons.
that felt like a game the Patriots are going to lose
it felt like a game like they were dominating
and we're somehow going to let slip away
and then he kind of just gave it to us on a platter
yeah yeah and also the Patriots
well and they also gave the ball back
and then Michael Pennix
I think he had an intentional grounding day
it was basically Michael Pennix by the way
got to be the hardest throw in the league
throws a couple lasers
he throws fireballs
yeah the the game though
came down to the Patriots
were 8 for 12 on third down and the Falcons
were 1 for 10. And including the
third down the end of the game. Similar to
J.J. McCarthy being like, hey, let's pass
it. We have our franchise quarterback. Throw it.
What do we think
about Cardi B and Bob Crafts?
Fucking loved it. Box
of the year? Love it. That's, yeah.
And Kenny Chesney. Oh.
Just Robert Crafts and musical
greatness. They're probably going to collab on a song soon,
I'm sure. And Cardi B and
Stefan Diggs are dating? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. You got a baby? A baby on the way.
Oh, okay.
You think Bob Kraft is doing any two-sie up there?
Do you think Bob Kraft rubbed their belly?
Yeah.
He said they, uh, he scored and he was like,
see you show up and he score,
so we'll probably be seeing more Cardi B at the game.
She did the celebration.
Do you think that Bob Kraft has heard the song,
Wet-Ass Pussy?
Yeah.
Oh, he's fucking party.
He's lived it.
He's going in dry and coming out soggy all the time.
Yeah.
Oh, gross
I was looking at the lyrics for Boomer
and that was one of them
Cardi B is very pregnant
What about that dangly thing
In the back of your throat, Cardi?
Oh, God
Oh, God
I always see it too far
It was kind of a Barack Obama voice I did for Kraftor
Yeah
I still haven't gotten over the Sydney
Sweeney ice cream that you want
Oh, no, that's it
I received so much positive feedback for that
Yeah
Because whenever I see big tits
I think milk
Yeah
It's natural
It's natural to think that way
Okay so Hank
Big game against the bucks coming up
Are you ready for Zach and Che?
Yeah I'm really
Really nervous about those two
It is a
You're such
Only the two nicest guys in the world
Like I like
Oh the Che is very annoying
To watch a game next to
But like not
Like he's not gonna bother me
Intentionally
No
But he'll bother
He'll bother you.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Stephen Che is like I, I, my type of annoying.
He'll bother you naturally.
You won't have to work on it.
And that's what's going to be so frustrating.
I'm excited.
I'm excited for this game.
Patriots are underdogs.
Good test.
Exciting test.
Measuring stick?
Keep it rolling.
Yeah.
Playoff game.
It's a playoff.
It's a good sim.
Where's the game?
Tampa.
Tampa.
Interesting.
Brady Bowl.
Yeah, big game.
Then who do you have after?
I think.
Patoon Cookman.
Dolphins?
I mean, the Jets on Thursday night football.
Oh, Jets Thursday Night Football.
Oh, Jets, Thursday Night Football, which will be streaming from the PMT Studio.
Yeah, you didn't hear that one.
No.
I heard.
I heard.
South Carolina State.
Memes, that's, you got to, you're going to have to get up for that.
Bucks, Jets, Bengals, Giants, Bye.
That's the game of the year for memes.
That is the game
If memes wins that game
Yeah
Oh my God
That should be a tattoo
For Hank
Like a one-sided
tattoo that game
Yeah
That's not how that works
No
That is how it
If he wants to do a tattoo
But I'll do one
I can't do that
Yeah
Could call me
But you should go
One-sided tattoo bet
That's not a bet
You're not gonna lose
It sounds like you're not confident
That's not a bat
Are you drunk right now
No
You got a little chip to you
I like
Yeah
You guys love to do like
Make a bet
But also like
Don't
a cat.
Get a cat.
Yeah. Get a cat.
Okay.
I'll go Amish if the Patriots lose that game.
The Falcons are in trouble.
They need to win very badly.
So are they playing the early game next week?
I don't know.
You just kind of, you got a little...
I am down for you to go Amish again if that's...
Yeah.
I like it, by the way.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
Yeah, the Falcons are playing the Colts in Berlin.
They need a win.
Bad.
You're in desperation mode.
They're probably pissed that the Colts lost to the Steelers.
Very pissed.
I was pissed earlier today
That the Lions lost to the Vikings
Yeah
Like this is how you have to think about games
You got to
You have to just will your way into
Now I don't really give a fuck
Now it's like okay
I just playing spoiler
I think I'm in full on tank mode
I think I am a tank right now
You open up the site
Tankathon no I did
I did on Monday though
I was pre-tanking
You need to maybe play someone
other than Marcus Marriota to tank
Because he's good enough to get you a win or two
I just, I hope, above all else, I just hope that Jaden's okay.
Yeah.
Some things are bigger than sports.
Some things are bigger than sports.
I'm also excited to see what we do this week.
I feel like we're set up to make a move.
Trade.
Yeah.
Interesting.
What position are you looking for?
I'm hearing running back potentially or defensive line.
Hmm.
Did Christian Gonzalez get hurt in this game?
He got fallen on.
He actually, he got Moss a little bit, but he got fallen on his head
and he said he's fine.
He got falling on.
Like Drake London,
on his head.
He was going,
he made,
Drake London ripped a ball out of his hands and then kind of mossed him and
then fell and landed on Christian Gonzalez's head.
Oh,
like it didn't look good.
Christian Gonzalez said he's fine, so he's fine.
He's fine.
Insult the injury type situation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you,
have you thought about who you want at running back?
No.
I don't know.
Give us some names.
I don't know.
Give us four names.
I have no.
Come on.
Give us two names.
Hank,
Who are you targeting?
Give us two names.
I don't.
You watch the league.
I love SQL Elliott.
Bring them back.
You're a league guy.
Sequin.
You're a league guy.
Christian McCaffrey.
You've got a couple names out there.
No, I don't.
Alvin Kamara.
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah.
I'd be down for that.
There you go.
There's a name.
He could be traded.
Who's out?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't really know who's out there.
Chuba, maybe.
That'd be fun.
Chuba.
That'd be good.
Yeah, there's a couple names out there.
You gotta get, we gotta get you in the name game.
See, when we're running back?
I don't care who we get.
I just think we have room to, to grow.
Maybe Jalen Hertz?
Room to grow, I, yeah.
I'm trying to think who else,
what other running backs would be out there?
I don't know.
Tadj A. Spears, Tony Pallard.
Mmm.
I've seen some Miles Garrett Photoshop.
I'd be down for that.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would, I mean, he's pretty good.
Yeah.
I think most teams would be down for that.
He's probably the best, yeah.
I'm going to put my name in the ring for Miles Garrett to the Bears as well.
Yep, there's rumors that the Eagles offered three first rounders for him.
What?
Howie?
Howie, you dog, did it again.
I mean, it didn't happen.
No, but the fact that he offered him.
That's a hell of an offer.
Yeah, the Brown should absolutely do that.
If I was Howie, I would definitely leak that to the press, even if I didn't.
Yeah.
Like I, you know, I offered three first rounders.
They said no.
Yeah, so I'm trying.
Okay, last early game, Chargers, 27 Titans, 20.
Titans did everything they could do to maybe win a game as 10-point underdogs with a pick-six, Max, big stupid pick guy, Justin Herbert?
Pig-s stupid pick guy.
He then, Justin Herbert, went on like a six-play, perfect drive down the field to score touchdown right after that.
So they got a pick-six, then they got a punt return for a touchdown.
Titans' offense continues to be ass
so they could not complete the
upset. And for the
Chargers, it's really Joe Alck got hurt
again, which is brutal. It was
like Joe Al get hurt, got hurt,
Justin Herbert got sacked at the very next play.
Yeah, apparently it's maybe
an aggravation of the previous injury,
which means he's going to be out for a long time now.
Yeah. Which is bad because the Chargers
are four and oh when Joe Alt
plays the entire game, and
they are one and three
when he doesn't. I guess now they're two
in three when he doesn't. But it's a big difference.
Huge. When Joe Alts on the field, Justin Herbert's QBR is 80. And when he's not on the
field, it's 56. Yeah. And the Titans continue to be an offense that don't really want to watch.
They don't have it. I feel bad for Cam Ward because he doesn't have anyone to throw to.
Yeah. And it just sucks. Sucks to watch. It does feel like Calvin Ridley's there just to be
traded at some point, right? Yeah, he's not even playing. Like they're just distressed assets.
They're like, hey, in theory, he's a good wide receiver.
Maybe we can get something for him.
Yeah, it's stuff to watch.
And Justin Herbert had to run a lot today.
He was, he was, he's barreling over people.
Yeah.
But yeah, this was a result we expected, except the Titans did cover.
So congrats to them for that.
Congrats on not getting blown out to the Titans.
Still, I would like to, I would like to opt out of too much Titans discussion this year.
Yeah.
We had him perfectly put on the side TV, just looked over every now and then.
Like, oh, the Titans are up 14-7, this is cool.
Nope, Titans can't get a first down.
They're in third and long all the time,
and then a pass gets thrown, like, behind someone crossing the middle of the field
that was short anyway.
Yep.
That's pretty much what my Titans offense, like, if we did, like, the Sean McVeigh,
you know how he can recall any play.
She's like, what, Titans, third and 16, 3.30 left in the third quarter.
I should be like, I don't know, probably a pass over the middle of the field that was incomplete.
I just keep looking over at the game and I just kept saying, that's nice that the Titans are close.
Like, this is nice. Good for them.
Was there too much powder blue on the field today?
It was a lot of blue.
There's a lot of powder blue.
It was a lot of blue.
But if you're going to pick one color, I'd say that's probably a pretty good one.
I'd agree.
And that was our Titans recap.
Okay, afternoon games.
Jaguars 30, Raiders, 29.
This was a game that looked like it was going to be a painful, painful watch, and then a shootout happened.
And we thought it was going to be a painful watch.
when Trevor Lawrence threw a real doy-doi interception on the goal line in the first half.
I think he might be, it's him and Herbert that are neck and neck for stupid pick guys.
Yeah.
And then he did have diarrhea going into this game, but an offensive shootout broke out,
including 13 points in overtime.
So, and Trevor Lawrence played well, scored twice running.
That was big for multiple reasons.
They, you know, he was spreading the ball.
Parker Washington was
catching everything
and Gino Smith and the Raiders
turns out Brock Bowers is very, very important
because not only does Brock Bowers
really, really good at catching the ball
he had 12 catches for 127 yards and three touchdowns
he also makes it a lot easier for Ashton Genty
to maybe get out in space
because he had a big day receiving the ball
and he was okay running the ball
so the Charger or the Raiders offense
after the before the by week
they played that game against the Chiefs
where they had three first downs
and were maybe one of the worst
offensive performances we've ever seen
turns out Parach Powers can fix a lot of that.
Yeah, this game was so shitty
for the first three quarters though.
And the first half you'd look up
and the Jaguars found themselves in
I think it was like second and 20
probably like five times
in the first half of this game.
It's like anytime something good would happen
there would be an illegal shift,
there would be a hold, there would be something.
It just felt
like neither team was ever going to cross half field and just kind of hang out playing football
on a field together for four hours and that would be that would be that would be that would be that
crazy and then an overtime credit to pete carroll for going for two yeah yeah i appreciate that pete good
job tie does you nothing you want to tell your team we're not quitting we're still fighting to win
good job it didn't work out some people might kill him for it i will not i will not kill pete carroll for
that yeah i think we have to bet uh the broncos on thursday night football against the radio
because I feel like going from overtime loss,
where they played every second of that overtime
to then having to go mile high, that's a hammer spot.
Is that not a hammer spot?
You got some room to hammer too.
Yeah, because Trevor Lawrence, big time.
Shout out our guy, Jersey Jerry.
With the TD, he just decided today was QB Day.
Yeah.
So he was like, I'm just going to do Caleb Williams,
J.J. McCarthy.
Who is the other one?
in it. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones
and Trevor Lawrence
to score touchdowns
and it was, I put
$300 and I won $140,000
to win $140,000.
Insane. Insane.
Is that the biggest hit?
In terms of both wire?
Yeah. Yeah. And Jerry
had $200 to win 90.
Pretty insane. Insane. And Trevor Lawrence
scored twice. Yeah. He ran in two.
I had $100 to win $50,000
and then I cashed out.
before the Jaguars game.
By the way, I wasn't going to bring up the bet.
Hank did.
But then I also put...
You won $150,000.
Yeah, but my best friend in the whole world, PFT,
everyone saw the clip.
Yeah, but everyone saw the clip out.
I didn't want to bring it up.
It's okay.
It hurts.
It's worth mentioning.
If someone on the show wins $150,000 on a $200 bet, it's going to get mentioned.
That's a great point, Hank.
But if the other person on the show cash out, that sucks for them.
You made the, that's a...
No, it's okay.
It's good learning.
I made the choice.
I made the choice.
He just took you to school.
I know.
Listen.
And Hank knows that I'm about as down as the guy can be right now.
I'm giving him a credit for everything.
Telling him he's right.
He's riding high.
That's honestly, no, I kind of forgot.
That's all I can think about.
I cashed out.
I made $9,000 off the bet, and then I put $1,000 on Trevor to score just for fun.
And he scored, so I got another $4,000.
So listen, I bet.
So you bet $100 and $11, $14,000.
That's huge.
I should feel bad.
No, I'm not saying that that's Big Cat that was saying.
I was defending you
I'm okay
I know you were
I know I know Hank was like
Needling he was dancing around it
And then Big Cat was like well he
Yeah let's let's talk about
Hey being a dick right now
But I mean listen
In the day
I bet a hundred bucks
And I made $14,000 off it
I can't
Yeah I could have made 50 grand
But I didn't
I didn't
And I'll learn from that Hank
We learn
And what that's not that honestly
Honest to God was not why I brought it up
It just it should have got brought up
No
It's an insane
that to hit you are you were a better fan than i am you were successful than i am at rooting for
football teams you you're better at watching football than i am like i i i one day i want to be i want to
be you in golf when i go oh i have beaten you in golf a few times that's facts oh you still guess what
i just made another $13,000 oh yeah because that's what hank owes me yeah yeah yeah boom how much
did you make today Hank me yeah none uh buddy
Trevor Lawrence scoring twice
None
That was yeah
200 to 1 and grand
I don't have to do this
I'd have to do some math on net
Why don't you do the math
Why don't we we'll just pretend to be the IRS right now
What do you got net today
Give me some time
You made a lot
You made that much?
No no
Wow you got to
No
No I actually I like Hank owning me more
Than I think I would like getting the money
Yeah
I like just being able to let
No, no. Definitely. Anytime his job, you'll be like, you owe me 13,000. Okay, next game, Rams 34, Saints 10. This was an absolute shit kicking. The Rams are awesome. The Rams are humming. DeVante Adams and Matthew Stafford are in step now. The Red Zone weapon that he is is insane. And I don't, Tyler Shuck, incomplete? I don't know. You had a pretty hard start.
I, like, just watching Tyler Shuck, I find myself saying, like, this makes me miss Spencer Rattler.
Yeah, it was also very funny because it was, Tyler Shuck came out, first three drives, three and outs.
What's the booth laughing about?
Let's hear it.
Meems has just had the camera on Hank trying to do the math about how much he's, it's been on him for the past like two minutes, and he's just counting and like pointing in his head.
How you doing over there?
I'm good
I
don't you just know
what you started the day with
and what you ended the day with
like it's
pretty easy to just like
I think he's probably
right now
and here was my account
at the start of the day
I think he might have
I think that it's like
it's like $2,000 I want $2,000
oh nice
it's a good day
it's good day
Tyler Shuck though
the first his first three drives you
in three and out
and then their first first
down was Tayson Hill coming in and running the ball
and it was like an old dog being like this is what you
need to do to get 10 yards
this is how you got to do it and when
Tayson Hill gets in the game it just
it's so much more fun the offense can
move occasionally let's
taste him he'll start yeah
Max and Zach let's have a conversation
similar to what we talked about with
Hank the Rams because
you guys are at the top of the NFC
the Rams in my mind
are very much
in that group
in the top two to three teams.
The NFC is loaded, man.
But they're a scary team.
Would you guys both agree?
I think any team led by Matthew Stafford
at any moment could be a terrifying team.
That's true.
I agree.
Yeah, it took the Eagles two buck kicks to beat them.
Yeah.
So, yes.
That's true.
Yeah.
I mean, think about the teams.
I'm just looking at the NFC right now.
The Eagles, the Bucks, the Seahawks, the Packers.
That's your top four seats.
So the Rams, who I think might be.
be you could make the argument they're the best team in the NFC are not even they're the fifth
seed right now and then yeah you got the Niners too right with six in the Lions yeah it's fucking
it's a gauntlet in the NFC but yeah the Rams are playing really good football and this was just
this was a laugher is puka okay yeah he had a chest injury that um he landed it looked like he landed
on the ball um I don't know how to say it Sean McVe said that he he could have come back in but
it was such a blowout he didn't want to put in his good play
That's smart.
That's why it's a great coach.
Smart coaching.
We could use a coach like that, like a young coach.
If there's any young Sean McVease out there that are coaching on the commanders right now, that would be good.
Yeah.
Keep that guy around.
Yeah.
But I would say the only thing the Rams have to worry about is their kicker kind of stinks.
So they've got to figure out the kicker situation.
Yeah.
I mean, Matt Stafford looks very, very healthy.
Devante Adams has been incredible.
They just, they pretty much use them like Red Zone.
That's what I'm saying.
He's their number one guy in the Red Zone.
Yeah.
And then outside the Red Zone, they do all the weird shit with Pooka.
and it always works.
I hope Pook is okay.
I think at worst,
it's probably broken rib.
No, yeah,
he said he would come back in the game
if it was a close game.
Yeah.
So it's totally fine.
But yeah,
Cardi,
their kicker,
I feel like,
has missed a decent amount of field goals.
So that might be the thing
they need to worry about
to tighten up.
Okay, last game we have,
oh,
Matthew Stafford is the fourth player
to have,
uh,
through the first eight games,
20 touchdowns and two,
20 plus touchdowns and two or fewer interceptions joining Rogers, Mahomes, and Brady.
And Brady and Rogers did it in two separate years.
And I think two of those, one of those years for Rogers was MVP.
One of those years for Brady was an MVP, Matthew Stafford MVP.
Just think about it.
And his boy, Clinton Kershaw, just won the World Series.
Yeah.
I like how they kept on showing the pictures of Clayton Kershaw when he was like as a rookie
and now they're like wow yeah yeah dude that's like 20 years want a few old no shitty looks different
and i i like how in the rams games now they don't have to show the side by side the high school
picture of stafford and kershaw because everybody they just show clinton kershaw yeah and they're like
you guys know why we're talking about clinton kershaw right here it is i find it very respectful of
the audience yeah matthew stafford MVP something to look at what is the where's he at right now max
he's got 21 touchdowns two interceptions he's on pace he's on pace
right now projected to have a season where he would be 45 touchdowns, four
interceptions, 4,500 yards.
That would be an MVP.
What is he?
I can't read that far.
Plus 550.
That might be an interesting one.
Got Josh.
I mean, that's...
Mahomes.
That's an interesting one.
He's never won an MVP.
You could get the narrative going about him never winning an MVP and being a Hall
famed quarterback.
Hmm, hmm, let me look at their schedule
Hmm
They got a big primetime game against the bucks in a few weeks
They've got a Thursday night football game against
Ooh, they got a week 17 Monday night football game
Against the Falcons
Matthew Stafford going back to Georgia
To win the MVP
That's a big storyline
These are interesting thoughts boys
Interesting thoughts
Okay. I might have to act on that. Last game, Bills 28, Chiefs 21. The Bills played, one, their defense was very, very good.
Mahomes didn't throw in a touchdown pass, and they were, it felt like they had an answer for a lot of what the Chiefs had been doing.
Two, James Cook and Josh Allen basically played perfect games.
Yeah, so Josh Allen had, I think, a franchise record for a completion percentage.
He was 25 for 28.
And Patrick Mahomes had the worst completion percentage of his entire career.
Yeah.
And Joey Bosa looks good too.
That's going to be a, I think probably the biggest difference could be for the bills.
You have a guy where in the playoffs, theoretically, if you had a lead, you have a guy that can shut down the opposing quarterback.
Yeah.
Josh Allen was 23 for 26.
I misspoke.
The story, though, like Josh Allen played perfect, but we've seen him play perfect before.
James Cook was awesome, but we've seen him play awesome before.
That was actually the first time in 27 games that the Chiefs have given up a 100-yard
rusher, which is pretty crazy, regular season.
Obviously, I think Sequin did that in the Super Bowl last year.
Did he not Max?
I think he definitely did, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But to me, because I expected Josh Allen to play at his best against Patrick Holmes.
Same with James Cook.
It was the Bill's defense, which has got a lot of injuries and has a lot of question
marks that they stepped up to the plate and played really well and Mahomes never got into a rhythm.
He never felt comfortable. And that was the, that was the big story from here is can the
bills replicate that type of defensive performance if they meet again in the playoffs?
You know who played really well is their cornerbacks. Yeah. The Bill's cornerbacks are.
Harrison is now back their first round pick. Yeah. Harrison being back, he was unworthy, I think,
for most of the game. And to be able to run with that guy and shut him down was really impressive.
and yeah it's going to suck without Ed Oliver in there
but when you go against a team like the chiefs that aren't really
they're not known for running the ball down your throat
you have the perfect formula to beat them
yeah so I don't know if the bills and the chiefs
will play each other in the playoffs this year obviously
but if they do I can already tell you I'm going to like the bills again
yeah I mean that was a that was a big game
that could be a big game for seating
and the bills are
yeah it feels like because they're
schedule they should
they don't have I mean they have
some tough games coming up
they have to play the bucks in a couple weeks
the bucks play everyone it's crazy
they do feels like the bucks play everyone
difficult schedule
difficult schedule
but yeah this was a big game for seating
and for staying
on pace of the Patriots
were you rooting for the chiefs in this game
yeah really
yeah because the seating
seating wow
And, yeah, I want the Chiefs to climb a little higher, and I want the bills...
To climb a little lower.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
You know, who has the most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in the NFL history?
And, of course, when you're rooting for the Chiefs for one time, they got a rigged call against them.
What do you mean?
The intentional grounding on a tip ball.
Oh, yeah.
Was a insane call.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Made no sense.
I still think that that ball was going to be thrown to nobody, even if it didn't get a
Touch. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Josh Allen now has the most rushing touchdowns by any quarterback in NFL history, regular season, and playoffs.
He is he is 47 times in his career thrown for a touchdown and run for a touchdown in the same game.
He's so good. That's insane. 47 times. I saw that sad. I was like, wait, that can't be right. It is right.
He's so good. He's so good. He played a perfect game. Yep. And it's like, this game is tough to recap just because we know the history of these two teams and the fact that the Chiefs do beat.
the bills every time in the playoffs it's like i'm sure bills fans feel the same way that was an
awesome win you're very excited about it you're excited that you're really good again but you got to do
it in the playoffs yeah and if you're a chiefs fan you're probably given the hold that you got in to
start the season you definitely felt a strong need to win this game but you can always lose this game
and say okay we'll see me in the playoffs yeah and i think the chief's the biggest question for the
chiefs is because mohomes will figure it out is their their front seven didn't look great today
James Cook was able to get whatever he wanted
It felt like the bills were able to run
In any third down
They were in control of the game
Whereas the Chiefs on the opposite end
It felt like they were in a lot of third downs
Where they weren't in control
Yep
And they were kind of Mahomes
Was running backwards
And had nowhere to go
Yeah
But the offense for the billes looks good
I think that they're going to try to get a receiver
Yeah
I think they will
Who
Who?
Who's a good question
There's some names out there
Who's out there
AJ Brown?
who Calvin Ridley
Calvin Ridley
George Pickens
George Pickens out there
they get the Cowboys
would be crazy to let him go
yeah
but
someone gave him a pick
you don't have him signed
he could always come back
mm-hmm right
Debo
oh are you
are you putting Debo
on the trade
trade block
I'm in such a down bad spot
I'm gonna say some things
that I probably won't mean
so do you mean this one
I don't know yet
I'm just
yeah yeah
it depends on what you can get
I love I love Debo
he's a great great
Terry
listen Terry hasn't played
I know
would you trade him
the team's not going to be
we're not going to be competitive
until
probably two seasons
I think 20 20s
I might get a Washington Commander's
2027 Super Bowl tattoo
so you trade Terry
You do need draft picks
I think everybody
That's that
After a game like this
Nobody except for Jaden
Is untradable
It's good at the last part
Yeah
What if it was five first round picks
For Jaden?
No
Five first round picks
We're probably going to whiff on all of them
I was going to
I was saying
That's Ron Rivera
Post-traumatic stress disorder
I got three first round picks
And Josh Allen
What?
I would think about it
Three first round picks
And Drake May
Three first round picks
And Drake May and Josh Allen?
Not Josh Allen
Oh no no no deal
Josh Allen for Jaden Daniel straight up
You know
You know I can't say that
You don't lose your job for injury
Drake May for Jane Daniel straight up
Oh boy
You thought about that a little bit
No
There are a lot of Drake's coming at me right there
know which one you were talking about for a second.
I would listen to a Josh Allen for Jaden trade.
I would listen to that.
I would hope so.
I would pick up the phone.
I would hope so.
You got to make me say no.
Yeah.
I think you'd have to say yes to that.
That's how much I love Buffalo.
That's what I'm saying.
I would say yes, but that's just because how much I love Bill's fans.
Jaden is as good as you're giving, he's in good hands.
He's a great hands.
Buffalo would be very excited to happen.
It'd be the nicest thing that I've ever done.
well i just had to ask that question because you're you're open for business i'm open for business
i want to hear every trade every trade proposal going into the deadline uh no one is untouchable
except for jane daniels unless it's Josh Allen and some first row picks yeah okay let's do a
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okay boys world series congratulations to the los angeles dodgers back-to-back champs
first time since the yankees did it over 20 years ago that was one of the greatest
world series like start to finish uh i don't know i i don't know what like people were
thrown out rankings obviously 2016 i'd rank pretty high but like some of those games weren't
as exciting you didn't have the 18 inning game you had uh what the diamond backs yankees world
series was was pretty high up there that was a good one that was insane that what a world series
it was incredible every game had its own like little unique personality to it and was crazy it
it was nuts like game uh well we didn't even game six is obviously friday night game six on
friday on Halloween just nuts just the the ending to it uh a lot of this is like a really
tough world series for Blue Jays fans
because I think the worst series to lose in baseball
are the ones that you look back on
and you remember the base running mistakes
because a base running error will stick with you for 30 years.
The Blue Jays, so there was an analyst
who said afterwards that he felt like the better team didn't win.
That's, it was a Blue Jays analyst.
That's a lame thing to say because the Dodgers won the World Series
and they deserve to win.
But if the Blue Jays could have just been a little bit better
on base running, they probably would have
won that World Series. The Dodgers
hit like 200 in the
World Series. They had timely hits.
The Blue Jays had
a lot, like a lot better of an
offense. They played incredible defense, and
they just didn't have
the little things that the Dodgers were able
to do. Friday
night, we had the wedgy,
which that was a correct call. I know
people were very upset. They were arguing.
I don't know if that's Max. You're
our baseball expert. You knew right away, right?
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's every baseball field in America that has that rule.
That ball hit the wall at the base, stuck immediately, you put your hands up immediately.
Ten times out of ten, that's a ground rule double.
It sucks when you got a guy on first base, and he definitely would have scored.
And so that's a bummer.
Well, no, I don't think he would have scored if that ball had bounced normally.
That is the rule.
It would have been close.
It would have been close.
But the people were upset because who was playing, who is, who is, who is, who is,
who grabbed it.
I can't remember who grabbed it.
But they were like, oh, well, he grabbed it right after.
He shouldn't have grabbed it.
That's not how the rule.
Like, the umps had their hands up right away.
The broadcast said that.
The minute it happened, I was like, I know exactly what's about to happen because it's
clearly stuck.
You throw your hands up.
So that was the argument that people were making was that because the Dodgers grabbed it
like a few seconds after and it was so easy to grab, it shouldn't have counted.
But that's just not how the rule is interpreted.
Right.
So that sucked really bad for the Blue Jays because that was just an incredibly unlucky bounce.
But then they also had an insane base running error to end that game where you had the guy
going way too far off second base on a short fly ball to get doubled up to end the game.
That was a great playboat though, by it was that Hernandez?
Yeah.
Yeah, there was a great throw that he had, very heads up.
But yeah, he was way too far off the base.
And then they had on Saturday night the slide that was, I don't think he should have slid.
He should have ran through home.
That's like, Max, again.
The slide isn't as bad.
He has zero lead at third base when there's no way he's getting picked off in that spot.
He has zero lead and he has no secondary.
Right.
Either of, he has one more step there.
He's safe.
And I think honestly, if he doesn't slide, he might be safe because it's a forceout.
so you should run through the bag
just like you're running to first base.
Yeah.
Now, Matt,
what about the lack of secondary lead
because you can't get doubled up there?
So if there's a line drive,
hit to the infield.
You always have a second player.
It's a lefty hitter going,
and yes,
of course,
like if Muncie makes an unreal play
and then tags third,
but you have,
it's a lefty hitter.
The odds are he's not going to hit it,
a screaming line drive right at Muncie.
he's so he is so close to the bag like he could take two more steps and still get back yeah but then
we had i mean the game was just so insane yamamoto is not human that was one of the coolest things
i think i've ever seen on a baseball field the guy pitched a complete game in game two
he pitched well how many pitches do you have in game three or i mean sorry game six
I think a 97.
97, six innings in game six on Friday night.
One day later, he comes back out and pitches two and two thirds to end the game.
I don't know how, like, guys don't, there have been guys who have done one day of rest.
He just did no day's rest.
He won three games in the World Series, hadn't been done since I think Randy Johnson.
I think it's only been done four times in Major League Baseball history.
I'm still in shock
that he was so effective and so good
and he tried to pitch game three
in the 18 inning game
he told Dave Roberts I'm ready to go
he's not human
his Vila was higher in game seven
than it wasn't game six
It's crazy man
Anyone who was pitched a lot
Like knows the very next day
After a long start like that
Like your arm is like hanging
I have no idea
How he was able to do that
Insane yeah it happened
Four other times
Randy Johnson, 2001, Mickey Lollick in 1968, Bob Gibson in 1967, and Lou Burdette in 1957.
Insane.
And guys, it's not only that, but like the three of them happening in the 50s and 60s, guys used to pitch a lot more.
Now, no one pitches past the sixth inning.
The fact that he, in game two, the fact that he threw a complete game, I thought was one of the coolest things because we don't see it ever.
then he comes back and pitches game 6 and then he comes back and wins game 7 it's insane it also used to happen all the time because guys weren't throwing as hard so now you're putting so much more strain on your shoulder and your elbow than you were back in like the 60s that to be able to do it right now is pretty much impossible yeah to come out there with that type of speed laid on in the series um it was it was awesome to watch and uh the the showdowns that he had with vladdie junior at the plate were so fun
So fun. I'm bummed for Blue Jays fans.
Oh, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's the worst world series loss, I would say since.
Now, obviously, the Indians in 2016, but the, probably go back to like the Rangers in 2011 when they were two.
Yeah.
They were, I think there were two strikes away twice.
That was the craziest.
That was when I was thinking of like the craziest world series of late, where it was like that was, uh, they were that close.
In game six and then lost games.
But, yeah, the Blue Jays were two outs away.
And you thought that ninth inning, you thought, well, it's just going to come down to show.
Hey, he's the third up in this inning.
And Rojas hadn't done shit.
And then he hits that home run.
And I think even Joe Davis said, he's like, wow, like, I can't believe it.
This guy just hit a home run.
My heart breaks for Jerry O'Connell, lifelong Blue Jays fan.
He was at both the games in Toronto.
He went to like 60 innings of World Series baseball in the last four days.
Yeah, there's no way.
that we won our fantasy matchup this week.
Let me check. I think you might be right.
Let's see.
Miguel Rojas, no homers off a right-handed pitcher all season.
Terrible against righties, barely played all postseason,
two outs away from the season ending,
and then he hits a home run off off.
We blew him out. We blew him out.
Oh, okay.
He streamed the right players?
He streamed all the right players, it looks like.
99% chance of a win.
It was just such a shocking, shocking.
And yeah, Yamamoto, like that was,
That was Madison Bumpgarder.
That was what it was.
We see this once every 10, 15 years.
Randy Johnson before that, where a guy is like,
I'm going to put the entire team on my back
and just pitch every high leverage situation
and win this World Series.
You know what else was cool?
We almost saw Game 7 brawl in the World Series,
which you never get.
You never get a World Series brawl.
Which I was on the Dodgers side on that one.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
I mean, he did.
He tried to get hit by the pitch,
took his hand off the bat and, like,
leaned into it.
Yeah.
That's probably a tip you learned from Kevin Biggio from his old man when he was there.
Yeah.
But crazy World Series.
And it was so much, I was so bummed out when the World Series was over because this is,
I've been bummed all day.
The baseball has been so good.
I want there to be another game.
These two teams were so good.
And the Blue Jays were so close.
And it just comes down to the little tiny, you know, mistakes that they made that, that, I mean,
they were quite literally.
four inches away from winning the
World Series. Or less. Yeah.
On that play at the plate. And you're right.
Run through home plate. Run through home plate. It's like a quarter second
faster. What do you think about bunting
sackbunt? Didn't love it.
I didn't either. Yeah. Didn't love it.
Max, did you have any thoughts on the...
Max just kept on tweeting baseball rocks.
It does rock. It does rock.
What does you think, Max? You're a baseball expert.
I mean, you did.
You are.
I know.
I trust your thoughts on the game.
It was, I mean, it was an unbelievable World Series.
It was so fun to watch.
It's, it's, I, there's nothing more I can say.
It sucks that it's over.
And I'm excited for next year.
What's it?
Ernie Clement had the most hits in postseason history.
Dude was hitting like 400.
He had so many fucking hits.
Blue Jays were so good and they were so close.
And they just, man, it's, it is brutal.
It's brutal for Toronto.
I do feel bad.
The Dodgers, I know people, like, hate the Dodgers for how they spend and stuff.
I get it.
I mean, the Blue Jays also spend.
They offered, they were in the show, hey, sweepstakes.
They don't spend like the Dodgers do.
It is funny, like, the Dodgers, even though they spend so much money,
you always get to a point in baseball where you trust the guys you trust.
They basically didn't use relievers in that game seven.
I mean, I know rebellious.
was a reliever in the second half of the season, but he was converted.
Like Blake Snell came in.
They were just like, we need to use our best pitchers, and these are the guys.
And also last now came in.
Shout out Mad Max going out there doing it one last time.
I know.
I think that for this year, if you need one big game pitcher, for me, it would be Max Scherzer,
just to be able to have him go out there and be a complete and total psycho.
And he delivered on it.
Obviously, can't get the number of innings out of them that you used to get back in the day.
but he did a great job for probably like one of his last
he might not have too many more years in him
but this was it was a great job by him
yeah and it was we also got to see
the Dodgers owner who now owns the Lakers
Mark Walter who I'm I still don't understand
he lives in Chicago he's from Iowa
I wish he would buy the Bears and the Cubs
but he had a quote that this is why I can't be mad
at the Dodgers and I get it they spent a lot of money
but this guy might be the best owner in all of sports
because afterwards he did an interview
and they were talking about the Yamamoto
and he also like
he isn't like a very public owner
you don't really see him very often
but so this is from the athletic
Dodgers owner Mark Walter the billionaire
chief executive Guggenheim partner said
Yamamoto was a good bet because of his age
he's 27 now and that he did not want
to miss a rare opportunity to sign a pitcher of his caliber
he trusts the evaluations of Frebin and his staff
they make all the decisions I just
tell them yes. That's what an owner should do. He has really smart baseball people and he just
says yes. And they look at what, look at signing a guy like Yamamoto did. You think you're good.
Most owners would be like, oh, no, we got enough starting pitching. We're fine. They signed a guy
to the biggest contract out of Japan and he's, he won them the World Series. Yeah, you've got an owner
who is a blank check that just does whatever you tell him to do. You identify the best players.
and he's like, okay, we'll do that.
That's the dream.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
I am bummed the World Series is over.
Also, I wanted it to be, I was, I was picturing a world where it was like the 18th inning
and, like, Vladdy was closing the game to win the game for the Jays.
Yeah.
Mems, you were so close.
So close.
And you know deep down what that would have done for you.
I would have been the PMT baseball expert.
Well, not only that, but like when we say things like, hey, have you ever gotten the lottery ball?
You'd have been like, hey, have you ever predicted the World Series to the final at bat?
Yeah, to a T.
And we would have had to say no, but unfortunately you didn't.
And he hit, he fucking launched that ball in the bottom of the ninth.
He had 101 miles per hour eggs of velocity, 32 degree launch angle.
There have been six such batted balls this season and four of them were home runs.
Yeah, that's tough.
So this was a ballpark related?
Yeah, he just hit it to the wrong.
He just hit his dead center.
Yeah.
Dead center.
It was also funny because Gaz was like Max almost called it.
And then everyone corrected him and he was like, same thing.
Memes, Max.
Same thing.
Pretty much.
It was like those memes, like same thing.
I thought the Blue Jays were going to win on Friday.
I think it was the eighth inning when Bo Bichette stepped up to the plate.
Yeah.
And I think he had two runners on or three runners on.
I forget if it was base load or not.
But the swings he was put on the, like he was a man that was in the box thinking like,
this has been my destiny to hit this home run right now
and win the World Series, and he just didn't connect on it.
And he hit that huge one on Saturday night, the three-run homer.
Then he bounced back, yeah.
Yeah, because he was on one leg.
Like, he had that moment where they,
anyone else they probably could have sent and he couldn't be sent
and everyone was complaining like,
why is Boba-Shett in the game if he can't run?
Yeah, he just, oh, he's in the game because he just launched a three-run homer
a couple innings later.
He just looked over to third base coach like, you know, I can't make that.
Yeah.
man what a world series
it really was like
hug your nearest third base coach
it was it was the rare
it was the rare
sports moment
game seven you're watching it
and you're like this we're watching
one of the best games
like the in terms of the drama
yeah and everything that was
I mean Miguel Rojas hitting that home run
I just he made the play at home
or he made me yeah
yeah we also now have six
six years in a row that Will Smith has won a World Series.
Yeah.
It's only two guys, but it still is...
One guy won the last three, and then...
No, one guy that won the last two.
Then the other Will Smith, the relief picture.
It was on the Braves.
He was on...
Yeah, he was...
I think he was on the Braves, and then who else?
He was on the Braves, the Astros, and the Rangers.
So the Rangers were most recently.
and then Dodgers Will Smith won the year before that in COVID.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So incredible.
Yeah, it seems like a cooler stat until you realize just two guys.
It's just two guys.
Yeah, when I saw that I bookmarked it immediately and I was like, I got to check this out.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's two guys.
It's so cool.
And Will Smith hits a massive, massive home run that wins the game.
Yeah.
And he, that was kind of my, that's the thing with the Dodgers.
Like, Will Smith is really, really good.
he's really good he's one of the best catchers in baseball but there still are better hitters than
him on the dodgers roster and so but that's how deep the dodgers are dudes after dudes after dudes
yeah and the uh and mooky bets by the way being like just all of a sudden the best shortstop
after saying like i stink it's insane mooky betts did that happened yeah he hit like shit no he did
but he played incredible in the field and also great game seven yeah i thought you're going to
say like they did all that with
mooky bets hitting like shit.
No, well, I mean, they could afford
mooky bets to hit like shit and still win the world.
But I was more, his defense was out of this world.
No, the Dodgers, I saw the stat.
They hit, they hit 204 in the World Series.
I think they hit, hold on, I'm going to pull up the stat.
It's pretty crazy.
The Dodgers batted 203 in the World Series,
the worst marked by a champion since 1966.
Over the last two seasons, they batted a combined
204 in the World Series and won both years.
Yeah.
nuts. And how about the bottom of the knife that catch in the outfield? Oh my God. That it was
Paix. He had just come in like two seconds before. Yeah, they put him in center field and then Kike was in
left field. And Kike looked like that was his ball. He was going over his shoulder. It was.
It was his ball. And then Paix comes in and just takes it from snatches. I thought that was,
I also didn't know Max. Why were they, I know why they were in earlier. They were playing in because
there was bases loaded with
one out, but as soon as they got the second out
because that made no sound. That ball
got hit and I was like, that's a routine out
and then they show
to the outfield. I'm like, holy fuck, these guys
are really far away from this. They're still
in. It was nuts. Yeah, that made
no sense. I mean, that is
one of the best catches. Like, considering
what was at stake for that? Because I
that was bases loaded, right? Bottom of the ninth
Yeah. To make that
catch? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely
incredible. After sitting for
nine innings. And coming in the game, we also should just say, thank fucking God that they got
the call at the plate correct. Yeah. Because that would have been the worst most anti-climactic way
to end a world series if they had gone to replay and then called it. Yeah. That would have sucked.
Have the young party go out on the field? Yeah. Just like, yeah, we fucked up. Yeah. Like I was the whole
time, I was like, whatever they call, they have to be right. Yeah. Or imagine the opposite that they
Oh, that would have been the worst
That would have been crazy
They called him safe
They'd celebrate
Oh, I mean, well, yeah, I mean, they would have
They would have had to like
You undog pile, how do you do that?
The dog pile left forever
Yeah
What did you say memes?
You got to talk memes when you're
Ohio State Miami
Yeah
Yeah, you're right
Warren Sap
See, that's where memes
Turn on your mic
You fucking add good shit to the show
Zach, did you watch the game?
I did you, sir.
Were you worried at all about the emergency pod?
I kept every screen around me on full brightness for any notification to pop up.
I know I shouldn't have been worried, but just in case.
Oh, man, I'm going to miss this World Series.
I do wonder what Jerry's deal was, switching back and forth.
I think he had invited by the Blue Jace to go to the games.
That's what he told us.
Also, it was great to see him on the celebrity cam on Friday night.
That was great.
He said he's like, I'm a Mets fan.
I was just going to the Dodgers game because I like to go to ball games.
And then I think because he had bad seats, the Blue Jays invited him to go to Toronto, which was very funny.
I mean, just Jerry O'Connell just being, and then, yeah, being on the, on the actual game, Fox showing him was awesome.
He just found a way.
Jerry, he won a game, right?
He won the 18 inning game, yeah.
He won the 18 inning game. He lost game four, six and seven.
Yeah.
Tough
That's so funny
Yeah
Doing the switch up back in the
Oh man
Yeah the Hank
You had some AWLs out there
Going bing bing bong in your face
A lot of bing bongs
Always never ends
All right well
We'll wait till pitchers and catchers
Jerry looked handsome on the celebrity cam
He did
Very handsome
He's a good looking dude
I'd fuck him
You wouldn't Hank?
he just tweets out like pictures with like girl fans
and just like AWOL hotties
Yeah yeah bizarre
Well he was with his wife
I think he can tweet whatever he wants
I guess
Yeah
He's just calling everyone hotties
Yeah
He was feeling himself
I mean Jerry's the funniest
So I he could do whatever the fuck he wants
Uh okay
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Hank.
Amish Hank.
I'm going to miss Amish Hank.
Thank you.
Maybe he'll be back after if the Jets beat the Patriots.
My who's back of the week is Joel Embed.
What happened?
He's back.
He's playing.
It's good to see him back on the court.
Played against, I forgot to who they were playing Friday night.
they lost the game
and in the game he did a
he did the DX
suck it
and then he got fined
for doing that
but then he had a very funny tweet
it was the
the NBA Communications
released like
Joel Mbid has been
fined for a lewd gesture
and then he said
y'all better start finding the rest
for doing the lewd blocking foul gesture
since I'm not allowed to do it
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mm-hmm
the NFL
Joe Mbeet's back
Joe and Beads back. Max, are you going to go to the game on Tuesday night?
No, after Darkstream.
Ah, bowls are good.
Do we have a clip of him doing that?
Yeah.
Yeah, can we see a clip of him doing it?
He does it all the time.
I know, but yeah, I want to see what he got fine for.
You're buying in, right, Max?
Yeah, five and one.
They look great.
Who did you lose?
You also lost to the six years.
Who'd you lose?
Who'd you lose?
We were five and one.
We lost the Celtics by one point.
The Celtics were up 25 in that game.
We're so close to blow.
But the one, so five and one, you say one.
So what happened in game one?
That was game one.
That was game four.
But who'd you lose?
Huh?
Saying, saying, who'd you lose?
Was it in the NBA Cup?
Good question.
That's a good point.
Because it's the Cup.
This was the Cup in the building.
This one wasn't even like nearly as egregious as he normally does.
I also love how the NBA is now taking all our really constructive
of criticism that we had from the finals last year
about like you got to put the trophy on the court
yeah and they're like say less we got lots
of trophy on the court for the NBA Cup
Oh
that wasn't a
Oh that was just a that was like a side one
That's not even a real one
That is also the blocking
That he's right about that
Yeah
Max who'd you almost lose
Almost lose
Yeah who'd you almost lose
They almost won
Wizards
Wizards
You almost lose to the Wizards
You almost lose?
Almost loses is actually a win, though.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, but who'd you almost...
We almost...
Yeah, I'm aware.
There's a lot of almost loses.
Almost lose to the Hornets.
One by a ton today.
The Nets fucking stink.
Stank.
Yeah.
They stink.
There's some bad NBA teams just in general.
Every year there's like a few.
They're just like, you guys should be bad.
Yeah.
You're just going to be bad the whole time.
that's or that team
should be bad
they're going to be a lot of bad
okay
good uh who's back
thanks good who's back a
my who's back of the week is
the Irish
the Irish are back
I did go to the New Zealand
Ireland gear
and there's somebody better
and he's going to knock out
Floyd Mayweather so
Floyd watch out
the Irish are coming
you talk
all you want, but you'll do
nothing. He did
something in that one. But yeah,
I went to the rugby game and it was
Ireland against New Zealand at Soldier Field.
Awesome showing out by the
Irish fans and the New Zealand fans. It was a sell
out there and the game was a lot of fun
to watch. There will be a trilogy because
now they're one and one. Hopefully it won't take another 10
years for the third one. But
I was standing next to one of the stadium
operations people 10 minutes
into the game and she got on
her little like
walkie-talkie thing and she goes oh no oh no we're out of guinness and i was like what and she's like yeah
we we sold out of guinness for the entire stadium oh no at soldier field 10 minutes into the game so
awesome job and they planned ahead for this too they're like hey just so you know there's going to be
like 60,000 irish people that are going to be coming to this game ready to drink beer we need to
order way more guineas than you think and the irish still out drank them they still drank all the
Guinness in the entire building 10 minutes
into the game. That's incredible. Which was
pretty incredible. Yeah, so respect to
the Irish fans out there. But you can
watch the All Blacks came into the office
last week and taught Max
how to form tackle Hank so he doesn't get stiff-armed
anymore. Those guys are the best. They are
the best. They were so much fun. But it was such a
kick-ass game. And yeah, if you have the opportunity
to go watch New Zealand or Ireland play
rugby, highly recommend it.
It was a great time. Are they playing somewhere else in the
States? I don't think they're playing another. It's like
a very rare thing to have two
of the best three teams in the world
play a game against each other in the U.S.
The Gallagher Cup
is what they call it. Who won the game?
So New Zealand won. Oh, okay. So the All Blacks won, which is
why there's going to be a trilogy. Okay. There's going to be
a third. Got it. I love
that. Yep. Okay, my who's
back of the week is, coach is getting fired
because we did it again. Every single weekend
we get one. Hugh Freeze got fired.
Yep. It felt like that was kind of inevitable.
Yeah.
It basically late Saturday night, a coach will walk out of his stadium and all the fans will stick around in a loss and just booed the ever-living shit out of the guy.
And then everyone will say, well, that guy's probably going to get fired.
And that was this week with Hugh Freeze and Auburn.
How much of Hugh Freeze and his golfing history being public do you think had to do with his firing?
Probably a little.
It also was that they scored three.
points against Kentucky at home.
Yep.
And lost 10 to 3 to Kentucky.
So, but yeah, this is every single week now.
So Auburn is now open.
Yeah.
Lane Kiffin just keeps, he keeps catching checks.
You want to hear a crazy weird stat.
Blake Beiler tweeted this.
This will be the seventh straight Iron Bowl with a unique head coaching matchup.
That's fun.
Isn't that crazy?
2019 Sabin v.
Malzahn.
2020 Sarkeesian versus Malzahn because Nick Sabin had COVID.
mm-hmm 21 sabin verse harsen remember harsen that was weird yep boise that made no sense and they just ran
him out of town 22 sabin versus cadillac williams because he was interim
23 savin verse freeze 24 deborr verse freeze and now 2025 deborr versus durkin
Auburn like the iron bowl doesn't really in its history doesn't have that seven straight
years, seven straight years. But yeah, every time a coach at a big university gets fired,
it does feel like Lane Kiffin is like, this is extremely good. Because I don't think he's
going to leave, but every opening that comes open, he's just like, this is going to be another
thing that I can add to my, give me an extension now conversation. Yeah, Auburn's definitely
in the back of the line in terms of SEC jobs with LSU and Florida. Yeah. Open. But Auburn,
I mean, they're also a school.
Like, they have won national titles, you know, in the recent memory.
So.
Yeah.
They've had those crazy years.
But Hugh Freeze, I thought it would work.
Dang.
Thought it would work.
Also, Dylan Rayo out for the year.
That kind of suck.
Yeah, the fibula.
A lot.
A lot.
Nebraska was looking good, too.
Yeah.
Zach, finish us off.
My Who's Back of the Week is going to be Rob Deirdek this week.
Rob Deerex, uh, run and MTV has finally come to an end.
Oh.
Fantasy, or, uh, whether that be, uh, through Robin Big, the Fantasy Factory and the most
recent cancellation, uh, ridiculousness.
Yep.
After, uh, 14 years, 46 seasons, ridiculousness is no more.
So were they still making new episodes or were they just replaying old ones?
So they're going to be, they're like always cycling old ones.
If you go to the channel, he's like a huge time block of the programming.
But, uh, they do have new episodes filmed.
filmed already and those are going to air through
2026. Oh, that's good. So we still got some time. We got
a retirement tour, yeah. We do. We get a chance to say thank you. Have you guys
Wait, all the way through 2026?
That's what I was reading, yes, sir. That's so much time. Yeah. Calling Max, sir.
Have you guys consumed any of Rob Deerdeck's content recently, like on Instagram?
Nope. And I love Rob Deerdeck. Part of, like, this office is I used to be a fan of Robin Big
and fantasy factory like he's a fucking man but he's he's kind of turned into one of those um
he like put his whole life in an excel spreadsheet to to capture like how to best optimize his
time and kind of one of those motivational guys Gary Vee but but a lot richer like he actually is
essential to your way of being in quality of life is that is one of his captions that's
Rob Deirdex captions in all areas of your life you're not in all areas of your life
must continuously push forward and actively maintain
Barker. I mean, it's true. Yeah, but it was
like, he said that he...
If you master your thoughts and actions, emotions,
you will gain control of your existence. Yeah, he puts
it in like an Excel sheet and is like, this is my
time to be happy. I'd like to have Rob Durek on the show.
I am a massive fan of him. Seems like an interesting guy. Yeah.
But I don't know how much like of his current
job is being optimized by
doing a spreadsheet of his entire life.
He does. Yeah, see, wait, wait, wait,
what is this? Rob Dierdek is the world's most underrated
entrepreneur. He built a 500
$350 million Empire recorded 336 episodes of Ridiculous and it still spent 30% of his time with family.
So that right there, 30% means that he definitely had that.
He had it, he had it like coded in an Excel sheet.
Yeah, look at this.
See?
His secret weapon, the rhythm of existence document.
It's a personal operating system that tracks how he spends every hour, his family commitments, his health metrics, and financial goals.
He put his whole life in a spreadsheet.
Obviously, it worked.
I'm not knocking it.
I just didn't see Rob Deirdek as like punk skateboarder.
Yeah.
Turning into, I put my entire life in an Excel spreadsheet and here's how you can optimize your happiness.
I make sure to spend 30% of my time with family and 70% of my time with ridiculousness.
Right.
It just was, it just was like, oh, that's interesting.
Rob Deerdeck.
But when he's filming, he's 100% of it.
present when he's with family
phones are away, when he's working
with business, everything else
disappears. Rob automates
everything that doesn't require his unique
skills.
All right, maybe I've got to get it on the Rob Deodak.
Yeah, is this like a piece of
software that's available for us to purchase?
I bet he's probably going to sell it, right? If you're not
overwhelmed, you're out of capacity.
That's what he said?
Just reading his captions.
If you're not overwhelmed,
you're out of capacity?
Mm-hmm.
Huh.
he's got a beautiful family good for him yeah good for rob your deck let's get him on the show
stop trying to win the day start winning the week oh oh okay what about winning the year that's how
you truly win in life we can't think that macro probably i can't i'm i'm second to second right
now everyone's just tweeting left hand up at me that's probably at a solidarity solidarity thank you
guys appreciate i appreciate that i'm sorry pfd that sucked that really sucked i like
The game sucked, but then to add
Jaden getting hurt, it's just
sucks. Yeah. In the first half, I tweeted out
this game is going to get so much worse. I don't know how, but it's going to get
worse. I know my team.
They were like making fun of you on the broadcast.
It felt, it felt pretty, uh, pretty personal when, uh,
Chris Collinsworth gave me a rut row.
Rut row. After, uh, after the fumbled kick return. I've never heard Collinsworth
drop a rut row.
And the sideline reporter was like, yeah, the Seahawks are barking at the fans.
And the fans said there's four quarters in the Seahawks players are like, no, there isn't, bye-bye.
Yeah, how'd you night go?
Well, I got Rutt Road by Chris Collinsworth.
The Seahawks players told our fans, bye-bye, you guys stink.
And then Jaden's arm fell off.
Yeah, not good.
The left end up is funny.
I got it.
Funny is funny.
Oh, that's why.
Got it.
Yeah.
I just got it.
Yeah, left hand's late.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't put his left hand up right now.
Not for a few weeks.
What means?
I just got that.
Yeah, it took me a second.
It's late, but that sucks that it's his left arm.
I refreshed Twitter and I saw like two people say left hand up.
And at first I was like, all right, that's cool.
Yeah, shout out you.
And then I saw like five more left hand up.
And I was like, wait.
They're mocking you.
Wait a second.
They're mocking you.
Yeah, that's fair.
It's a, hey, it's a good mock.
Yeah.
Okay. Good show, boys.
Love doing the Monday shows.
Another Sunday in the books.
We're officially past halfway of the regular season.
Pretty crazy.
Feels like we just started.
But here we are.
Numbers.
Three.
There you go, memes.
22.
What's Vladdy's number?
27.
That would be 22.
That was Vladi's senior's number.
I feel bad for Vladi.
That's pretty sick when you bat-flip that walk, though.
Yeah, it was.
He's such a, he's just a man.
Oh, he is 27.
I'll go 27.
I'm going to go 68.
The Jaguars also set the NFL record.
Longest field going to game.
We didn't even say that.
Fuck.
Little.
But I also, not impressed anymore.
The kickers and the K-balls.
Yeah.
It's getting out of hand.
What's the elevation in Vegas?
Is that, is that elevated?
It's elevated.
okay it's for sure elevated not severely elevated but it's elevated it's still very impressed 68 would have
been good from not very elevated at 2000 yeah that's elevated yeah a little bit that's a little
elevation almost a half mile the k balls are insane though yeah because I guess they can now work them
all week yep so they're ready for them I don't know think people will be able to watch monday night
football oh shit we got us talk about that real quick yes memes
I hope that people can watch Monday football.
ESPN is fucking everyone because ESPN's got a new app
and they're basically just going to hold.
And they also own Hulu and Fubo, right?
I mean, you've got to turn on your mind.
Disney owns Hulu.
I don't know about Fubo.
I'm pretty sure they own 70% of Fubo too.
So they're, they're screwing over everyone who has cut the cord and went to YouTube TV.
And it's, it's just fucked up.
It's fucked up.
They're just screwing over the consumer, the people who just want to watch sports.
I just want to watch sports
That's all I want to watch
I can watch the shows I watch are on Netflix or HBO
Let me just watch sports
I don't watch any other TV besides sports
Give me all the sports in one place
And let me pay for that
And stop with this bullshit
Where everyone is trying to squeeze each other out
For an extra dollar
Screwing over the people who just want to watch sports
Is crack streams back
Is meth streams back
what are the alternatives that people have
I don't know also guess what
ESPN your app is garbage
it fucking kicks me out all the time
that is true
I still can't even
I have an iPad where I can't even log in
because I changed my cable provider
like a year ago and it still has me
as Verizon I'm Xfinity now
I can't I can't figure out how to get in
just I just don't get it
I don't get it just figure it
like it seems like the only one who gets screwed over
and all this shit is the
consumer the guys who just want to watch sports they're there like everybody from ESPN is tweeting
out how it's YouTube TV's fault I believe that this is ESPN's fault I believe this is ESPN
Disney being extra greedy yeah also there was one guy who tried to shame me and was like you got
to call out Scott Van Pelt's like dude I'm not going to fucking call up my friend because his boss
told him to tweet something yeah you think shut the fuck you think you think Scott just sat down
at his computer and was like yeah let me you know what let me just go to bat here real quick
against YouTube TV.
For big court.
Scott wants the,
he wants dudes to watch sports too.
That's his life.
Yeah.
But yeah,
it's crazy, man.
It's bullshit.
It's crazy.
What were you doing this weekend memes?
Were you just switching back?
I was switching back and forth.
The afternoon games,
I was watching Breeders Cup.
What was the other game?
What was the game on Fox that I was watching?
The afternoon games.
It was like,
Texas Tech.
Yeah, it was Breeders Cup, Texas Tech.
And I was watching that.
And then when, and then I'd be like, oh, shit, Georgia's driving the ball.
Got to fucking log out.
Go into the other one.
Go into ESPN.
It's just bullshit.
Yeah, they got to figure it out.
YouTube TV has perfected the multi-view.
No one else has it, right?
Nope.
I actually tried to do four more TVs, which are like.
I tried to do a multi-view on ESPN.
And it was like, you can watch Brown lacrosse and, and, in like, a softball game that
was happened six months ago.
Yeah, mine were soccer games.
Yeah.
Put in the multi-view.
It's crazy, man.
It's bad.
And it always freezes
And just
The video just stops entirely
Just stop fucking us over
So you think they're going to
They're going to make a deal
Before Monday football
That does
Florio said they're far away
Oh
Can we just
Can we just pay
Can there just be like a select
Like
People who really love sports
Just let us pay
For one app
That has everything
I don't care
Who gives it to you
But just give us everything
Right
why doesn't that exist the sports channel i'll pay a premium just to be able to watch every game
in multi-view figure it out i don't know what i don't know what they can do maybe rob dear dick
can figure this out it's bullshit though Hank remember when you had to come watch money football
yeah my house i might come here tomorrow i mean i have cable still because of this situation
yeah i got rid of cable so you can come over again having cable it's this is why we have
backups and redundants, but not everyone can have that.
No, I understand not everyone can have. A lot of
people are like, yeah, you set aside
a select amount of money, either
for your cable package, or if you cut
the cord thinking you were sold a bill
of goods that you'd be able to get it,
and now they're fucking you over.
Yeah, no, like, I'm still able to watch everything,
but I know that most people don't have
like money to just throw
like seven different streaming
apps for every fucking
game. It's bullshit. We should get on the phone,
Mr. Portnoy, and see if we can sue ESPN.
action lawsuit.
It's obviously not a coincidence.
They just came out with their app that they're trying to get everyone to pay $30 a month for,
and this is now happening.
It's bullshit.
I will be boycotting Monday night football tomorrow.
There we go.
College basketball.
I will.
I'm so excited for college basketball.
I'm going to bet every game.
I'm going to bet every single game.
It's going to be awesome.
So excited for college basketball.
Okay.
Is Kyler getting soft bench?
He might be.
I think this might be, which might be good for him, though.
I think you're right.
Okay, numbers.
You already said three, 27, 68, 27, 37.
39.
86, 55, 99, 59.
By the way, shout out, pardon my balls.
Can we pull it up?
We should do another number because they have tracked now attempts.
Did you see this, Hank?
No.
So Memes is getting pretty close to your attempts.
No.
Yeah.
There's no way this is accurate.
I mean, it's, you don't trust him.
So Memes has gone 741 days, 331 guesses.
The longest streak that Hank had was 988 days.
404 guesses.
So you are now.
There's no...
70 guesses away.
70 guesses away from Hanks Street.
We're in...
We're on watch,
especially with our
trend of doing two a day.
So six.
So that means memes
will have beaten Hank's streak
in roughly
12 to 13 weeks.
Somewhere around January
if we go two a day.
Memes, this is bad.
It's pretty crazy.
0.0.0.
Shut up, Abraham.
All right, same numbers.
22.
68.
27.
Names, you still got three?
What about this?
What about this?
What if, uh, memes?
If the Jets beat the Patriots, Hank has to get a tattoo.
If you beat Hank's streak, you have to get a tattoo.
Wait.
Yeah.
Oh, if I beat his shirt.
Well, no, like if you, if you last longer.
71.
Anyone?
No?
That now it's a double-sided tattoo, bet.
Let's do one more.
Oh, yeah, let's do one more.
So this would put memes at 334 guesses without getting it.
Because you're not going to get it right now.
You know you're not going to get it right now.
You're never going to get it.
It's never going to happen.
Oh, 34.
Oh, damn it was.
Memes, brutal.
Thank you guys, no, Iverland.
You know what I'm going to be.
You know, I'm going to be able to be.
You know, I'm going to be.
You know, I'm going to be.
