Pardon My Take - NFL Week 9, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Bears Are A Disaster, The Lions Are Unstoppable + Jason Kelce And Joel Embiid Stepped To The Haters

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

NFL Week 9 and we start with fastest 2 minutes. We then recap every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:08:51) Bills 30, Dolphins 27 (00:08:51-00:21:41) Falcons 27, Cowboys 21 (00:21:41-00:33:29) Raven...s 41, Broncos 10 (00:33:29-00:38:10) Commanders 27, Giants 22 (00:38:10-00:49:24) Chargers 27, Browns 10 (00:49:24-01:00:33) Bengals 41, Raiders 24 (01:00:33-01:05:44) Panthers 23, Saints 22 (01:05:44-01:15:53) Titans 20, Patriots 17 (01:15:53-01:23:46) Cardinals, 29, Bears 9 (01:23:46-01:42:06) Lions 24, Packers 14 (01:42:06-01:50:24) Eagles 28, Jaguars 23 (01:50:24-02:02:03) Rams 26, Seahawks 20 (02:02:03-02:07:50) Vikings 21, Colts 13 (02:07:50-02:09:50) We finish with who's back of the week including Embiid and Kelce and Justice for Peanut the squirrel. (02:09:50-02:31:50).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Today is Monday November 4th week 9. WAP WAP Tick tock to tick to tick And not gonna get em some spread WAP WAP WAP Happy No Nut November. We start in Atlanta where the Falcons had a tough time defending against Rico charges as Dowdell scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Meanwhile young thug Kirk Cousins looked like Prime Jimmy Gowapolo throwing for three touchdowns. The Cowboys were forced to call on their DACUP quarterback as Prescott hurt his hammy, but it was too little too late as Cooper Rush did his best to be a modern day warrior with a mean mean stride, but fell short, leaving his fat coach to smash a tablet after the menu wouldn't load. Falcons 27, Cowboys 21. We go up to the Meadowlands where Dan, all I Queen Queen Queen no matter what had Washington rolling and the team was looking animated as Hi, I'm Troy McLaurin
Starting point is 00:03:34 You may remember me from such films as a one yard touchdown reception and the 10 yard touchdown reception Not even a day ball of coke can save Wall Street as another Black Monday is imminent after Daniel Dow Jones continues to crash. The Commander is 27, the G-Man 22. Over to Western New York where Amari Alex Cooper was ruled out pre-game but the Bills still had enough for the Dolphins to call Josh Allen daddy. The Bills started slow in the first half, but found a groove when Ray Charles Davis made the Dolphins' secondary look blind on the way to a 63 yard score. The game came down to the wire, but Tyler, whatcha gonna do with all that base? All that base on special teams? Hit a 61 yarder and no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills
Starting point is 00:04:25 Bills 30, Dolphins 27 We go down to Baltimore where the Ravens said Let's get recorded Let's get recorded in here Hey, hey As Patrick scored a touchdown to boat race the Broncos Tractorcito Ran for 100 big TDOs
Starting point is 00:04:44 The Ravens sit at 6 and 3-0. RIP the bridge Francis Gacchio. He shoves it down Sean Payton's P-Hull. Tractorcito. Ravens 41. The Broncos 10. We head on to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene. Sagon Barkley was rumbling, mumblingumbling and stumbling and then he hit him with an all-time 180 over the head of the Jags defender. Finally, Jahan Ferguson reminded Eagles fans that he's on the roster after he had one of the biggest catches of the game. Zach Bonvoyage was all over the field and looked like he was going to easily bid adieu to the Jags offense. But after a roaring comeback, it was N'Kobe Jimmy Dean who risked it to get the biscuit
Starting point is 00:05:31 and came down with a game-sealing interception. Eagles 28, Jags 23. Thanks Max. Over to Nashville with the boy, Henry Lockwood. Down to Nash Vegas, Mason Rudolph the backup QB, backed up and threw a 9 yard pass, which was complete to Nick Nonovenet for a touchdown. Pass fans were thrilled their rookie QB was back from a concussion protocol and said, we love the Drake after a second quarter touchdown.
Starting point is 00:06:03 The team's traded field goals before Nick, Russell Westbrook, and Akeen Was Salad momentarily gave the Titans a 7 point lead. An overtime interception sealed the loss for the Patriots and they were heard saying, actually we hate the Drake, but at least he isn't the Caleb. Titans win 20 to 17. That was hurtful Henry. In Carolina. So what we lose games. So what we suck ass. We're just having fun and we don't care who sees. So what our owners dick. That's how it's supposed to be. We're living bright young and wild and free. Derek Carmela Soprano was playing with a new found furio after calling himself a psychopath this week, but it was too little too late as the Panthers practiced anti-Dennis
Starting point is 00:06:51 Allen discrimination, further cementing him as the worst coach of all time. The Panthers win a football game. What? Huh? Huh? The Panthers? The Panthers win a football game! Panthers 23, Saints 22. We go to the FROZEN TUNDRA of Green Bay, where Jameer are on the wall. Who's the fairest of them all? As the Lions came into the frozen tundra wearing their snow white uniforms, making Packers fans look sleepy, grumpy, and dopey. Kentucky Kirby Joseph got on his horse and galloped home for a pick six to end the half, while Brian Branch Davidians took on the green Bay T.F. and got lost getting kicked out.
Starting point is 00:07:37 But it didn't end up mattering as the Lions answered the camp bell yet again on the way to an easy win. The Lions 24, the Packers 14. Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. It's a pick my lord, another pick my lord, add another that makes three jake darvin's played sick the browns are basic james thought his coach was black till he got late sick the chargers 27 browns 10 and that was the fastest two minutes for week nine. Brought to you by our friends at Chevy.
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Starting point is 00:09:36 We're finishing up Vikings Colts Sunday Night Football. There was a second there where I thought Sam Darnold was turning back back into a pumpkin But he seems to have righted the ship for momentarily So we'll update this at the end, but were you getting nervous too? A little bit. He looked a little bit spooked He looked a little pumpkin-y. He was spooked. It was like seeing ghosts again for a moment He also did get hit in the face on another sack. They don't respect the NFL doesn't like his face. I think it's that he's got such a large head. Yeah. That they're like, it's almost like you're asking, well, what was he wearing?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Did he want to get hit in the face? Yeah. It's free rain on Sam Darnold's helmet was at all times. Was he asking for it back to back weeks? Uh, but yeah, we will, we will update that game after we finish everything else. Let's, let's hop into week nine. So last week we had an incredible witching hour, insane games this week. It didn't feel like there were a ton of, a ton
Starting point is 00:10:30 of drama. Was Hank right? Hank might've been right. Was Hank right about the games this weekend? Although it was games. Didn't he, didn't he? What, which game did he specifically? Oh, he didn't like the Falcons. That was fun game still still but was it yeah, it was still fun to watch Kirk cousins go crazy He was going crazy. We had like two decent games today. Yeah, it wasn't the best Sunday, but that's okay Because we love every Sunday We hold it and cherish it and love it and kiss it and and smooch it and have it sit on our lap and Fondle it. Yeah, take showers with it. Yeah, cuddle it. Little spoon. I'd like to make Sunday my little spoon every single Sunday. All right, let's hop in the games. Bills 30,
Starting point is 00:11:11 Dolphins 27. This was probably the closest best game early. Josh Allen and Sean McDermott in the Buffalo Bills continue to be the Miami Dolphins daddy. Sean McDermott's now 15 and two against the Dolphins. And this was the Bills kind of MO this year where they start slow. They've actually been trailing in five games at halftime this year. They started slow and then they woke up in the second half with a fumble that kinda changed the game
Starting point is 00:11:42 when they punched out the ball of Mostert. And then Ray Davis's long touchdown and Josh Had 156 yards and three touchdowns in the second half and they held off a frisky dolphins team Yeah, the Dolphins looked alive today. Josh had an incredible touchdown pass. That's when it was okay He is he's your daddy, right? He is father and he's going to score whether you like it or not There's nothing you can do about it He was falling over getting hit by like two guys and then just lobs a nice easy soft catchable ball into the end zone Anybody like most other quarterbacks if they get hit like that they might fumble
Starting point is 00:12:13 They might hit the ground and hurt their shoulder Josh is just like okay This is I'm just gonna push the buttons and this is easy for me because I believe I can beat the Dolphins because I've done It a million times in the past. Yeah 15 and 2 that's pretty that's pretty crazy. That's that's ownership at a different level the Dolphins They're frisky. I'm gonna stick with the Dolphins being frisky. They don't know how to close games I think they've lost their last three games by a total of 10 points They like their offense looks like it's somewhat back to it looks okay They just don't know how to close games.
Starting point is 00:12:45 They had, they score to tie the game and you're like, oh man, the Dolphins are gonna maybe be able to pull this out. And then they had the back-to-back. It was the Chop Robinson penalty and then the Jordan Poirier penalty. And then Sean McDermott deserves credit for this because Tyler Bass has not been great. Tyler Ass. McDermott deserves credit for this because Tyler Bass has not been great. Tell her ass. That's all her ass. He he missed an extra point today. He doint one. I think he missed a couple extra points last week or the week before.
Starting point is 00:13:14 He has had maybe the yips, whatever you want to call it. And Sean McDermott was like, you know what? I'm going to fucking trust him with a 61 yarder, which if he misses that kick, the Dolphins, I believe, had one, maybe two timeouts. I think they had two because I think they used one to ice him. Uh, the dolphins can basically turn around, get 20 yards and try to kick a game winner themselves. Yeah, that was a pretty risky thing to do. So Sean McDermott gets credit for trusting his kicker, which I don't know if I would have trusted my kicker in that spot. That's awesome because we will give him credit for trusting his kicker, which I don't know if I would have trusted my kicker in that spot. That's awesome because we will give him credit for trusting his kicker. If he had missed
Starting point is 00:13:46 that field goal, we'd be like, you belong in prison for that. I think the guy missed an extra point. Why are you going to send him out there for a 61 yarder? I think as he was lining up, I was like, this is psycho because it really was like when you have a 61 yarder, you just looking at the field and you're like, if he misses this, the dolphins get need a first down to try their own 61. And people always say like, you know, like if your coach doesn't get field and you're like, if he misses this, the dolphins get need a first down to try their own 61. And people always say like, you know, like if your coach doesn't get something and you're like, well, if he if it would have worked, we would have been praising him for making the right call. We
Starting point is 00:14:13 need to do more of the opposite. Yeah, where we talk just about how bad of a decision it was, because it didn't work out the way that we thought that it was. Yeah, but hey, yeah, no, it was a 61 yarder. And it probably would have been good from 70. Yeah, he hit the dick off that ball. That was, it was very, very impressive. And, and now you get a kicker who might have some confidence back, which is also like as nice free agent acquisition, Tyler baskets, the game ball, uh, the bills are absolutely rolling. And even in a game where it's like, it did feel for a little bit watching that game, cause they w they were sleepwalking the first half. They had that, they had one good drive
Starting point is 00:14:48 that Keon Coleman, the ball goes off his hands and picked in the red zone. And you're like, are the bills going to lose this game? No, no, no, no. The bills are not going to lose this game. And the bills are seven and two. And the second best team in the AFC East is three and six. That's pretty crazy that they have it wrapped up this early. Congratulations to the New York Jets who are in second place in the AFC East. That's huge. That's huge. That's a big game for memes. That's enormous. So back. Almost back. Almost back. Second place is pretty good. There also should be, I don't want to be the one to start the conversation, but other people have started the conversation. Josh Allen should definitely be in the MVP conversation. Oh, he is in the conversation. Yeah. Yeah, he should be very much I think if you look at the odds
Starting point is 00:15:30 It's like Lamar 250 and then Josh is like 280 and Lamar probably should win it again because he's been insane But so is Josh. Yeah, Josh has been really good too The Dolphins I would say There are so many teams that are that have two wins right now I think there are nine NFL teams that have two wins right now. I think there are nine NFL teams that have two wins, which doesn't seem mathematically possible. Does it? No.
Starting point is 00:15:51 To have nine teams with two, some of them are two and seven, some are two and six, but there are nine teams that have two wins. I think the Dolphins are by far the best two-win team in the NFL. The Dolphins the best two-win team. To be the best two-win team? Yeah. You think that's bad? You'd rather be the worst two-win team? PFT. Definitely. The Titans beat them. Yeah, but that was a different team. True. Titans, I can't quit the Titans. And Jameis? Yeah, the Browns are also a different team. I would say the Browns and the Dolphins if we're playing the two wins Super Bowl. I think it would be, I think it would be Dolphins one seed.
Starting point is 00:16:26 No, no, it's a, it's a final four. Okay. Got it. So it's Dolphins one seed, uh, Browns two seed, Titans three seed. So it's Browns Titans in the first round. And I think it's the Jaguars in the four seat. Okay. So Dolphins versus Jaguars, uh, Browns versus Titans.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Okay. I think the Dolphins win that game now. I think the Dolphins beat the Jaguars, Browns versus Titans. Okay, I think the dolphins win that game now. I think the dolphins beat the Jaguars. Yeah, I think I have the Browns, the Browns versus Dolphins in the championship game for the two win teams. For the best two win team in the NFL. And then make this a tournament. That might be a pick them. Put it on a Tuesday night. Yeah. Give it to us instead of election coverage. Kill the two. two-man. Yeah, I would watch this the Tupper Bowl This is the Tuber Bowl and then just missing the the Tuber Bowl. I would say is The Giants they were the first one out. Yeah. Yeah, they were the one that Leonardo's like hey look They don't have enough. They don't have enough on their resume the Patriots played like five games without Drake man
Starting point is 00:17:21 I feel like you're not getting enough credit different team Well, they also lost a two-win teams. You lost the Titans. You just lost a two-win Titans team. You gave the Titans, you gave the Titans entry into the two-win club. If you didn't want them in there, you should kept them out. Who was your other winner? You beat the Dolphins, right? No. Jets. They beat the Jets. I know they beat the Jets, but did they beat them? Week one, they beat the Bengals. Oh yeah. So you didn't beat, so you lost the Dolphins so I mean that's I mean if we're looking at if
Starting point is 00:17:47 we're doing the Linahti bracket ology I think the Giants are all the job you can make the argument the Giants did beat the Brown I think the Giants have the best strength of schedule the Giants do have a tough string if you look at the win percentage I think the Giants of all the two in teams it's like they're they're number one played a gauntlet yeah that's what you get for making your schedule you try to play competitive games and Lennardy doesn't give you that respect. They're like the like 2014 I want to say Arkansas Razorbacks when Brett Bielma like they won like six games
Starting point is 00:18:13 but they were maybe the best six-win team out there. Yeah. Because they were just going they're playing everyone in the SEC and just playing everyone to like a 13-12 loss. Yeah, but to the Dolphins point, I think that they I mean they hung in this game They could have very easily won this game. The Dolphins are frisky. I think they'll be spoilt their official spoiler I don't know if they're gonna sell they probably should sell like What does Jalen wattle do? He showed up out of nowhere in the second half of this game. Yeah, and then he had Minus like what yes, so here's what happened on the last play because right when this happened that was so funny I turned to Jerry and I go oh my god. What was to his passing yards over under for today?
Starting point is 00:18:51 His prop was two hundred forty three and a half yards. That was the over under yeah, he had two hundred fifty four yards With five seconds left in the game. Mmm He passed to Jalen wattle five seconds left in the game. He passed to Jaylen Waddle. Jaylen Waddle ran backwards for negative, or sorry, it got pitched to Jayden Waddle. He did not pass Jaylen Waddle yet, but he threw a complete pass down the field and then it got pitched to Jaylen Waddle who ran backwards for 16, minus 24 yards. So Jaylen Waddle finished his stats today was two catches minus four yards, one touchdown. Pretty crazy. That doesn't seem physically possible.
Starting point is 00:19:29 No, that doesn't. That's how it happened. And so two is over under, did not hit because of Waddle running backwards. Yeah. I just, I feel like the Dolphins should, uh, you, it's a wasted season. You know, it's, you're not going into the playoffs. You have some talented guys in the roster. Like what, I don't know. I maybe the chiefs don't want another wide receiver now, but they still could use one. Right? Like what I think, I don't know. I think they said they're not done. If I were, if I were a two and seven GM, I would just be trying to get as many draft picks as possible.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. And this is what I don't know about Waddle because he's been in my, in a lot of games. I don't know if he has lost a step or if they're just not targeting him at all It's the no to know to her was a big deal. Yeah, but I don't I don't know I don't know if waddle is he still got the elite touchdown celebration. Yeah. Yeah, he He had the week one. He had a huge monster game and then since then it's been Everything's been under 50 yards and he's averaging like he gets like four catches a game so he's not totally invisible but I would I start trading everyone and even the announcers are going through the same things that you're going through at home when you're
Starting point is 00:20:36 watching the Dolphins play when that when to it took off to scramble for that first yes who was the play-by-play guy Kevin Harlanlan. Yes, Kevin Harlan. I think he said like oh no Like during the middle of the play because to is running with the ball They're feeling the same emotions that you are watching him run just like bad things might happen on the display and but he looked good Today I had a I had a moment. Yeah, I mean he the Dolphins are frisky and they will play spoiler and they will probably win a game that they're not supposed to win late in the season and Fuck someone else's schedule up. I'm trying to look right now. Ooh Maybe yeah
Starting point is 00:21:11 Maybe at Green Bay that could fucks it man. That's cool. This me cold. Never mind Yeah, maybe like the Jets or the Texans. That's a game they could win and just fuck everyone's schedule up But yeah, the bills are rolling. I don't, the bills are right now it feels like the AFC is just a lot of trash or figuring it out and then the bills, the Ravens and the Chiefs. I like that there's a nice like understood order of operations at the top of the AFC though. Yeah. Because you got the Chiefs obviously number one, because guess what? They beat the Ravens. Ravens obviously at number two, because guess what? They the Bills. So it's, there's not a whole lot of debate
Starting point is 00:21:48 that you can have. I think that the Bills and the Ravens are both really, really good teams. And I think either team could beat the Chiefs. But I think that the Ravens obviously have the Bills number for some reason. There's one person that's going to get very mad at us for this conversation. The Steelers are technically at the top of the AFC. Yeah, I think the Steelers are very good. I put a future on them. They should be in there. Last Monday to win the Super Bowl. But yeah, the AFC, yeah, the Bills, the Ravens and the Chiefs. If you told me, if you gave me, I mean, it would be a dumb bet, but if you're like one of those three teams to the Super Bowl, yeah, yeah, sign me up. That's going to happen, it feels like It feels like okay next game the game that Hank shat all over the Falcons
Starting point is 00:22:27 27 the Cowboys 21 Hank. I know that you didn't weren't excited about this game But this game gave us many different things to take away one Bijan is awesome 150 yards from the line of scrimmage. He was or 145 yards He was awesome too. Is that like new information? No, but it's nice to see like every game that Bijan goes off. It's kind of, it's like nice to see because we spent all last year being like, when is Bijan going to go off? And now it's like he's arrived and he's so fucking shifty and so awesome and elusive. When he
Starting point is 00:23:03 gets in space, it's, you just know that he's gonna make a guy miss I think what big cat says like it's really it's really good for all the mock draft people out there. It's just like this guy's different I'm a B John guy. I like him I I'm a fan of him and I like to see him do well And so every time he does well, I'm like yes that confirms that I am Like it's okay to be excited about a guy who last year felt like he was not being used properly Yeah, uh to we got Dak saying on the sideline. We fucking suck. That was pretty funny. Yep Three Mike McCarthy smashing the tablet
Starting point is 00:23:39 That was very funny to the tablet say something about his brother. I don't know might have called him slur Yeah, or yeah, maybe wrote an article about him We got we got a lot of Philly things to talk about later. Uh, fellas. Is it is it gay to date a pop star? Apparently outside actually maybe yeah outside of a Penn State game. Yeah, uh three four four, uh Pam Oliver got a jersey from Steven and Jerry Jones. I don't know why it's a journalism, baby I still don't know why I was trying to figure out why they like stop I don't think they stopped the game, but they these in the broadcast they showed
Starting point is 00:24:14 Pam Oliver getting a jersey were they trying to sign her. I don't know if they're trying to sign her I don't know if they could afford her right now, but I do think that For whatever reason this is a move that you do when you're trying to get somebody to retire. Yeah. Think about it. If they're still working, they're pushing her out the door. You're having like a retirement party for her. I don't think that has she said anything about retiring? I don't think so. I don't know. Max memes. Can you look that up? Why did they get, is it just because she does Fox? Yeah. Fox does the Cowboys. She's been doing it for a while. Yeah. I, I Couldn't figure it out. That was very weird, but that was kind of cool Hank
Starting point is 00:24:48 Five I don't know what number I'm on Rico daddels touchdown was sick. Yeah was that was a sick touchdown Yeah, we I looked for the same stuff and I couldn't figure out they gave her a jersey Either either Jerry knows something about her retiring or this is Jerry being like, look, we need to get her off the sidelines. I bet you Pam Oliver has a lot of dirt on the Cowboys organization. This could also be Jerry taking a shot at those guys. He yelled that on the radio being like, see if you're journalists, this is how we treat you. I respect you. I won't hit you with a CDs nuts joke. Yeah. Yeah. This game was, uh, I enjoyed watching this game. It had a lot. I'll give you another thing that we can take away yeah this game was I enjoyed watching this game it had a lot I'll give you another thing that we can take away from this game something fun
Starting point is 00:25:29 yeah the Falcons reminded us that you cannot commit pass interference on a fake punt oh so the Cowboys tried a very sad fake punt yes and threw it towards their gunner who got thrown down to the ground the bull probably should have been picked off in return for six but it wasn't but it was a a nice reminder that if it's the last guy closest to the sideline and they run a fake punt, you can do whatever you want to them. It's all legal. Yeah. It was the sad fake punt and then it was also the fourth down end round with CD Lamb that lost like 15 yards. The Cowboys are ass. They are complete ass. That's also fun Hank, watching the Cowboys be ass. The Falcons are good. This was a good win for the Falcons. Kirk Cousins,
Starting point is 00:26:12 I think if you looked at his stats this year, he was like the greatest quarterback of all time against the Bucs and then okay, like average to below average against everyone else. So it's good that he beefed up his resume against someone not named the Bucks. Yeah, well this is, it's the highest back to back quarterback rating for any quarterback ever in Falcons history. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:34 What Kirk has done the last two weeks. I think the Falcons are good. They still gotta figure out their pass rush situation. They didn't get three sacks today. That's shocking. It is shocking. MVP quarterback. Is he in this?
Starting point is 00:26:45 Are we having the conversation? No, I'm saying like that that's better than Matt Ryan. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Matt Ryan did win an MVP. That's true. I was thinking for a second, I was like, Michael, Michael, Michael, MVP.
Starting point is 00:26:57 This is actually should have, we should have, we should have talked about this on Friday. This is the matchup of Kirk Cousins versus the black Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Remember when Amari Cooper called Dak Prescott? Yeah, was Amari Cooper actually giving Dak Prescott the best compliment he's ever received in his life I think so cuz that's a that would be an honor cuz I take her cousins over Dak every day of the week Yeah, and I mean the Cowboys are bad. I I have a question. So good win for the Falcons I actually do think these Falcons are good. I'm worried about the Drake London
Starting point is 00:27:25 injury because he came out of the game after scoring a touchdown. He's very important. And again, their defense has to round into form a little bit more. The Cowboys ran the ball like the Cowboys don't run the ball and they ran the ball very well. Zeke is just I don't even know what's happening. He just doesn't go to meetings anymore. And then he just they're like, yeah, don't come to this game disciplinary reasons. I don't even know what's happening. He just doesn't go to meetings anymore. And then he just they're like, yeah, don't come to this game Disciplinary reasons. I don't know. I don't know but it's because treating Zeke is treating the NFL like he's
Starting point is 00:27:51 Like he's a kid on like a youth soccer team He's like I can't make it to the game tonight tonight because my like sister has a violin recital Yeah, I don't know but it had to be something bad for Jerry to be like Zeke You're not allowed to travel right because I think Jerry he loves getting, he loves getting the miles. I think it goes straight to like his personal credit account. Yeah. Flying airplanes. I, I think that he loves Zeke too. He does, but he, I, the story I read Zeke has just been late to a bunch of meetings, like multiple meetings, which is shocking considering how fast he drives. That's true. Uh, my question though is this, and this is no discredit
Starting point is 00:28:24 the fog. focus is again I do think the focus are good. I said that four weeks ago when I was like I take them in the NFC south over the Bucs That was obviously the Bucs have a lot of injuries at what point are the Cowboys no longer a good win. I Think they're always gonna be a good win because they're always gonna be a satisfying win. They're satisfying with But at what point is it like oh they beat the Cowboys. That's a really good, like the Cowboys are not good. Yeah. Well let's ask Max Max Max. You play the Cowboys next week, right? I think are you going to be robbery games are different. Robbery games are different for sure. It doesn't matter when you throw out the record books, but you get what I'm saying. Like the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:29:02 are not good. They're not a good football team, but we're in our head because they've been like under Mike McCarthy. Yes, they have not had playoff success, but they've been a very good regular season team under Mike McCarthy. So in your head, you see the Cowboys on the schedule and you're like, Oh, that's a big game. They're a good team. They're not, they're a bad team. They have a lot of holes. They like building the entire offense out of just CD lamb does not make any sense. Michael Parsons has been out for a while. I actually think they should trade Michael Parsons. They never will, but that would be the smart move for Jerry Jones. So you're like, if you signed Dak Prescott to a big deal and you're like, he's the quarterback,
Starting point is 00:29:41 you need some draft picks. You need to start like getting depth around him and not just be like, hey We'll pave for really really good players and hope everything else works out. So did you see what Michael Parsons said about this game? He said Game of the game of the year for them game of the week for us So he's still they're still talking about the Cowboys being everybody's Super Bowl. That's my point I don't think that they are everybody's Super Bowl though. No, they they're just bad. It's just fun to beat the Cowboys Yeah, right. It's very fun to beat the Cowboys, but they're not a good football team. So I
Starting point is 00:30:14 Mean there's they're not I don't I don't know. They're not a playoff team. No, they're they're not gonna win I'm looking right now at their schedule. I think they're probably gonna maybe win seven or eight games and Dak Maybe his hamstring is fucked up and his throwing hands fucked up hands fucked up. They kept zooming in on his hand It was well, it looked like he got stung by bees on the sidelines. He's all fucked up Yeah, and Cooper Rush credits Cooper Rush I I like a backup quarterback that I know exactly to Cooper Rush. I like a backup quarterback that I know exactly like what he's going to provide and what Cooper Rush provides is he's going to throw the ball as hard as he possibly can to a receiver that has a defender draped all over him. Every single time it's like
Starting point is 00:30:57 a nine yard pass rifled in there while there's a cornerback literally on top of his wide receiver. Yeah, like an uncatchable ball. Yeah. But uncatchable maybe for either team. Yeah. So he knows where his receivers are going to be. He doesn't really have the knack of reading defensive coverages to throw it to an open
Starting point is 00:31:13 one. But you know what? He gets rid of the ball on time. He does. On schedule. He does. Well, maybe a little late. Well, yeah, maybe a little late.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Relatively on schedule. Yeah, relatively. Dak did have a sick touchdown pass today though Yeah, he did a little bit lucky on the catch by Rico. It was a great catch But yeah, that was a great Dak bought a shitload of time scrambling around So sometimes when plays break down like that Dak is he's liable to make either the sickest play ever or the most boneheaded play Yeah at the end of that play and we got the sick one today. And they were so, so bad on third and fourth down.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I think they were three for 16, the Cowboys. That was it. Every time they got a third down, they just sucked. When you said that Drake London was injured after the touchdown, did he get injured? Did he do the bowling pin so much in the headstand? He left the game, I think, after the next series, so I don't know what his injury was.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Because that headstand was sick. The headstand, it's a great celebration. It's a great celebration. Him and Amon Rahm, what college was that? That was like some... Incarnate word. Incarnate word. That guy did it. It's an awesome, awesome touchdown celebration.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Have you ever seen the videos of, it reminds me of the videos of Mike Tyson, his old training that he would do for his neck. Yeah. He would do neck bridges. So it was basically like would do for his neck. He would do neck bridges. So it was basically like a plank on his neck. He would be in plank position, but it would be his neck, not his hands or his elbows.
Starting point is 00:32:31 He would do that for like 30 minutes a day. It's a great exercise. And his neck would just get so fucking strong. Because I see those celebrations, and all I can think about is you're gonna get hurt. You're gonna get paralyzed. He's gonna break your neck. The Chargers could probably do that
Starting point is 00:32:44 with their strength coach. Yeah, Ben Herbert. probably just gonna work that neck out. Well, I saw they did a pregame thing on the balcony where we interviewed Cleo Mac. And it was JJ watt interviewing Bosa Cleo Mac, Ben Herbert and Harbaugh and I just was sitting there being like, damn Those are all our guys like fuck. Yeah, it's good Yeah, like that was that was fun. Just seeing Ben Herbert. That's a lot of testosterone coach Herbert. Yeah Yeah, sweet Drake London reading right now right hip hope just a contusion that's from Twitter doctor Jeff Mueller. Okay, I trust them. We're hoping for a bruise Yeah, my understanding and this is from James Hall. My understanding is Falcons Drake London is dealing with a hip pointer and an oblique strain. It doesn't appear to be a serious concern I don't think you can get it
Starting point is 00:33:32 I think that's one of those things oblique strains like that's why you shouldn't try to get abs because you can't I could never get an oblique strain. Yeah, you can't pull fat, right? Yeah, that's never gonna happen to me Okay next next game. Hank, was that enough fun things to talk about? Yeah, I think I was right, but that's... No, I don't think you were right. Did you hear about Pam Oliver? I saw, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Oh, 30 seasons. Is this the 30th season? Yes. So everyone's doing it. This is just from earlier in the year from the Niners. I'm not dead yet, but I'm having a great time. I appreciate you guys. So they are trying to get her retired. Yeah, that's what it. This is just from earlier in the year from the Niners. I'm not dead yet, but I'm having a great time. I appreciate you guys. So they are trying to get her.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah, that's what we're tired. That's crazy. We love Pam Oliver. Uh, okay. Ravens 41 Broncos 10, the not ready for prime time Denver Broncos who I still are, you know, they're not a bad team, but this was, talked about this on Friday a big step up in class and They failed the test. Yeah, the Ravens are Light years better the Broncos right now. I could see the Broncos making the playoffs that could happen
Starting point is 00:34:35 But they're probably gonna know it could if you look at where they are right now They're probably I'm making that face because I probably think the only team I think the team they'd have to beat out is our chargers. Okay, so I don't want that. They they're probably going to lose their next two games I think. But the Broncos I think their their defense is good enough to keep a minute and in the conversation wasn't today. It was not today. Lamar I mean the Ravens you can't the Ravens and the Lions are the two teams right now going the NFL where I don't know what you Do on defense because it seems like there's no answer is a flowers
Starting point is 00:35:10 Lamar Jackson will just run around and say flowers will be wide open and that will happen four or five times a game and there's Nothing you can do about it in Lamar Jackson will throw it perfectly to him. He was throwing dimes Lamar Jackson was 16 for 19 for 280 yards and three touchdowns. He didn't even have to run today. I think he has one of his worst running games. And then you just throw in Derrick Henry, who by the way had his hundredth touchdown rushing. So he's the 10th player all time to do that. And he also reached a thousand yards. We're on 2,000 yard watch. Wait, he got a thousand yards. We're on 2000 yard watch. Wait, he got a thousand yards rushing today. He is 1052 yards on the season. We are officially on 2000 yard watch for Derek Henry. I hope we are have the Ravens play have the Ravens had a buy yet they have not had a buy. So
Starting point is 00:35:58 they're exactly they played a little bit more than half of his schedule nine games. We're on it. I hope he gets there too. It's crazy. But yeah, Zay Flowers is always open about 30 yards downfield and he always catches the ball facing the line of scrimmage and then he like fakes one way and then turns around and runs the corner for an additional 13 yards. And they do that five times a game.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And it's unstoppable, especially when you have Derek Henry coming down Eche. And yeah, Lamar Jackson, he throws with so much touch now. It's awesome. Yeah. He's having an MVP season again. He's been awesome. The Ravens cannot be stopped. The Ravens defense would be the big concern because they still do let up big chunk plays. And it feels like, like Bo Bo Nicks I feel like Bo Nicks had a decent amount of time tonight today and he missed a few passes He did have that great touchdown catch, but it was just the Broncos Have been feasting on some not great teams Then they had to play a really really good team and they got punched in the mouth and maybe they'll learn some lessons from it
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah watching Lamar plays like the opposite of watching Bo Nix play. Because Bo Nix, every time he throws a pass, he's just like, I'm going to throw this ball as hard as I can. Doesn't matter who I'm throwing it to. Could be a dump off, could be a scrim. I'm just going to wing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:15 But he's still fun. And when Bo runs, you're like, he's about to get crushed or throw a pick. And when Lamar runs, you're like, no one's going to touch him. Yeah, with Bo, sometimes I have the fear that he's already passed the line of scrimmage, like eight yards.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And I'm like, he's probably going to throw another interception. He's going to try to throw it. Yeah. Also Lamar, that was his fourth perfect passer rating in his career. And that's tied for the most all time since 1950 with Ben Roethlisberger.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Now, I don't know what passer rating actually means. But still, when you get a perfect anything, you got to say hat tip. 1950 with Ben Roethlisberger. Now I don't know what passer rating actually means, but still when you get a perfect anything, you got to say hat tip. I know when I see 158.3, that means really, that means he was really, really good today. Yeah. So the Broncos, yeah, the Broncos have, I think the Chiefs next. So it's like a little, they're going to have to, they're going to have to buck up here. They have the Chiefs and the Falcons coming up after you know feeling pretty good at five and three and that Chiefs game will be very interesting because we'll be like yeah they they aren't that guy pal. That's what I wrote down for the Broncos. They aren't that guy. Not that guy but not that
Starting point is 00:38:17 guy pal. They could make the playoffs but I just I don't know. Here's the thing about the Chargers. Here's the thing about the Broncos. They beat a lot of bad teams. Yeah. But there are a lot of bad teams in the NFL. And there's a lot of bad teams in the AFC. They still get to play the Raiders again. They get the Raiders, they get the Browns and the Colts. Yeah. So they do get to play some more bad teams. Oh, the Colts aren't terrible. They're not bad. Yeah. Oh yeah. They're in the Broncos conversation. And the Bengals depending on the week. Yep. And I'm going to say that're in the Broncos conversation and the Bengals depending on the week Yep, and I'm gonna say that whoever wins that Broncos Colts game that will make the other team a bad team Yeah, that will be the that's how you know. I like that. I like that. Okay next up commanders 27 Giants 22 PFT
Starting point is 00:38:57 You're 7-2 You even beat a Daniel Jones Where he finally threw a touchdown in front of his home crowd 672 days since he last threw a touchdown at MetLife Stadium. It was New Year's Day of 2023. He went off in the first half, four for six, zero yards, one touchdown. Yeah. He went off.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He went off. Also, I noticed this and I want to hear your perspective from the commanders, but I noticed this from the Giants perspective. It feels like Brian Dable has realized that like, it's all over with Daniel Jones. So fuck it. Let's just run him like we did a few years ago. Yeah. Because he was, he was just running every play and he was pretty good at running. Yeah. And they were running like options and, and he was he was keeping it and like I think he basically was like, Hey, Daniel, you're the whole quarterbacking thing, the throwing the ball you're not good at. So just run it. Let's just work on trying to get by. Yeah, anyway that we can't afford to be picky about how you're going to play the position. Let's just send you out there and do what we know that you can do. And yeah, in the first half, Zuriard's passing looks pretty bad on a stat sheet. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But I don't think he played that poorly in the first half overall, because he was running the ball a lot. Yeah. He was running people over and they were able to move it pretty effectively. Our defense still doesn't look great, but our offense, the crazy, crazy stat that I saw today
Starting point is 00:40:24 is that we have three turnovers this season Three total turn. Oh, yeah, I saw this. Yeah. Yeah, that's the fewest by a team in the first nine games of a season since 1933 that's crazy. And that's the first year that they track turnover. So this might be The fewest of any team of all time Wow that the commanders. And so yeah, Jaden played pretty well at quarterback today. I don't think it was one of those crazy holy shit, oh my God. He did what he had to do. But he did it really well. Yeah. And he doesn't make mistakes. That's the crazy thing. Like he, he will make some mistakes. He's a rookie. He's going to figure it out, but he's very, very careful with the football. Yeah. And it likes much more so than anybody thought that he'd be as rookie and no turnovers,
Starting point is 00:41:08 no interceptions, no, no fumbles. It's huge. It's huge that you have a rookie quarterback that's able to do that. So yeah, they are, they're seven and two for the first time since 1996, which is, that's, it's just crazy to think about that because they just hit their over for wind total for the season. They're a very good football team. Yeah. That was, that was a game where it was like, it wasn't a wow game. It was a division game. He took care of business Yeah road game in the division right and the Giants always play the the commander's tough. They usually beat us Honestly, especially on the road. So I got a question for you
Starting point is 00:41:35 Steelers Eagles next two weeks. Yeah, so next like ten days because you're gonna play Thursday night football against the the Eagles If you're 2-0, what are your thoughts if we beat the Eagles if you're 2-0 what are your thoughts if we beat the Eagles you're 9-2 okay I have here's how I'm looking at the NFC right now okay and you can tell me if I'm being to make setup thanks yeah yeah this is big cat trapping me and no I'm not no no no I get it I was gonna ask you oh as well as gonna ask you to reverse it's a good trap though because no I'm not trying to trap I'm not saying this about my team as they currently are. I'm saying this if we somehow beat-
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah, I was gonna do oh and two after that. Yeah. If we somehow beat the Steelers and the Eagles. Here's how I see the NFC. I don't think anybody's gonna beat the Lions. Yeah. I think the Lions are clearly the best team in the NFC. They might be the best team in football. But I think that it would be realistic if we're looking at nine and two to say we could lose in the NFC championship. Yeah. You wouldn't have to play the Lions till the NFC championship if you're nine and two. Yeah. And I, I could see us potentially
Starting point is 00:42:36 getting to the NFC championship game. And you wouldn't have to play a road game until the NFC championship game. And yeah. So people have to come into our death trap of a stadium and it might fall on them or rain shit on them. That'd be nice. So I think you also have to take into account the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday because I think the commanders are going to try to get a cornerback, maybe wide receiver. Huge day Tuesday. Maybe pass rush. Maxion. Maxion. Maxion. NFL trade deadline. Power rankings. Everything. Everything's coming up on Tuesday. The two per bowl.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yes. What about 0-2? If we're 0-2 and we're looking at 7-4. And you lost the Steelers League. But what about the trade deadline? What's going to happen that is so important? I just said we could get a cornerback or wide receiver. We still need help at cornerback.
Starting point is 00:43:23 We need help at receiver try to keep up yeah pending those moves but now if we're oh and two i would say let's let's win wild card game okay why not because those i mean the steelers and the eagles are tough games yeah they're very those are not those are those are not uh the giants the panthers but if the bears if here's the thing if the commanders go 500 for the rest of the season, I think that puts us at 11 wins. Yeah that would. It's crazy. It's crazy to see how fast this has turned around.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And I respect the hell out of Dan Quinn because I think he's done a great job coaching the team. He's a very competent, good, like, that's the thing is you guys have a, Dan Quinn's a floor guy where it's like your floor is raised to a point where you're not going to make mistakes of a poorly coached team. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows what his ceiling is?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Well, I guess the ceiling is going to a Super Bowl, having a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl. But that type of coach, Dan Quinn, when you go from what you had in Ron Rivera, who it fell off at the end, Dan Quinn it's like he just I feel like he brings the whole like organization together being like this is what we're gonna do and we're not gonna make the dumb mistakes that have killed us yeah so if you if you look at three turnovers right now through nine games last year at this time we had 14 turnovers 14 makes a big difference that's a big difference yeah you guys have a lot of I mean you play
Starting point is 00:44:43 the Saints still and the Titans yeah so so I I mean I think the coming cowboy stink if I'm looking at the schedule right now I think saying 11 or 12 wins is very very possible very possible, and I don't think I'm being delusional No, I that's not delusional if you look at the schedule. That's not delusional. Yeah, cuz it's it's again You're seven and two and you have games against two games against the Cowboys the Titans and the Saints that's four games right there where you should be favored yeah and that's that's not even talking about the Steelers the Eagles twice in the Falcons which you could win yeah the way I see the NFC it's the Lions they're number one no matter what right now they're almost
Starting point is 00:45:21 unbeatable I think and then grouped in that second group, I would put the, I think the Eagles have the second best roster in the NFC. I think that the Eagles are, like if they can figure out what's going on with the coaching and the weird decisions that they make sometimes and overcome the Max Mojo. And we'll get to it, but I'm officially,
Starting point is 00:45:42 like just to add, you know, more shit onto everything I'm dealing with, the Rams I'm starting to get nervous about. Yeah. The Rams are bad. I think they're tied for first in the NFC West. Oh no, the Cardinals beat them head to head. Cardinals killed them. But they have the same record as the Cardinals?
Starting point is 00:46:02 They have the same record as the Cardinals. I believe they have the same record as the Cardinals and the 49ers 49ers are on a buy this week So yeah, they're no the Cardinals sorry are five and four and the Rams and the 49ers are four and four okay, so Yeah, okay Let's take a break and then where do you have anything else with the commanders? No, I think it was just it was a good clean game from Jayden, and he's awesome. He's so fun I love him so much Yeah, I mean those that one passed to the one of the two touchdown passes to Terry was sick
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah, I think Terry had two touchdowns on two catches and like 19 yards good efficient day from Terry Oh, I remember what I wanted to ask you. Do you have a comment about the commander's fan? Oh the guy that fell down that was very funny my comment Shit, he just for people, can we put it in? Can we put it in the, the, can we play it real quick? Just, and then we'll put it in the show. The, uh, this guy was talking shit and then forgot that, uh, gravity is not his friend. Well, I think there was a guy in front of him and he dapped him up right here. And then on the dapp, he falls forward. That was a killer dapp. Shut your fucking mouth up! He just started rolling!
Starting point is 00:47:16 And he got up and he... You know he's embarrassed when he's like... Basically wedged at the bottom of the stairs and his first instinct is to look back and continue to talk shit. Yeah, it's good. You're like, yeah, what'd I say? I thought he was going to accuse the guy like pushing him over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 That was very clear to him. Number one, I want to commend this guy for having excellent pocket awareness and not showing any ass crack when he bent over. That's just, that's elite. That's being situationally aware, because I think most bigger guys would have had a little crack poking out. Number two, I'd like to abstain from future comic,
Starting point is 00:47:53 because it's a good possibility that this is one of my friend's dads. I'm just going off vibes. I've been to many Commander's games in my life where all my friend's dads looked exactly like this guy. So I hope he's okay Yeah, he wasn't fighting anybody. No, it was a good fall. Just run in his mouth. It's good fat guy fall Okay, let's take a break and do a couple ads and then we will get back to more games
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Starting point is 00:50:26 This is what you get we can't be deterred no, this is what happens You're gonna have these you're gonna have little bumps in the road with Jamis We were flying too high after last week this week come crashing down That's just what you got to take the good with the bad today was bad last week was good I would like to step in real quick and and Today was bad, last week was good. I would like to step in real quick and congratulate the haters on one thing. The haters said that Jameis Winston shouldn't have won the game last week because the pass before the touchdown pass was the easiest interception of all time that just got dropped
Starting point is 00:50:56 by Kyle Hamilton, right? The haters were right. Well, no, they weren't right last week because then he did drop it. You got to make the play. Yeah. Well, the curse of Jameis is sometimes he just throws such a damn catchable ball that your receiver's going to catch it or a cornerback's going to catch it. I also think he just loves playing football that he gets so excited. It's almost like he just wants to play catch with anyone,
Starting point is 00:51:18 whether it be on his team or the other team. You know, it's sharing. Yeah, you're just like, he's at the park. He's got a ball. Anyone by hey quick catch or if yeah if James goes to the park with a football and he sees kids he's probably gonna be like hey let's throw it around a little bit he'll probably throw an easy interception make the kid feel great right that's just how he plays football right spreading the joy of the game now the Chargers defense is awesome the Chargers defense still
Starting point is 00:51:42 hasn't allowed 20 points I are more than 20 I'm very high on the Chargers defense is awesome. The Chargers defense still hasn't allowed 20 points or more than 20 points. I'm very high on the Chargers I think they're a very cut a competent football team like top to bottom I they do have to figure out their offensive line a little because I think Justin Herbert got Sacked six times and they obviously have Rashaun Slater and Joe Walt and but the Chargers like Justin Herbert is
Starting point is 00:52:07 really fucking good at football and because last year happened, I think we got off, the national media maybe got off the scent a little bit. He was one of those guys that got a little too much hype for not winning playoff games too early, so everyone then just zagged on him. Whereas he's always just been really good and he just needed a good coach behind him and He's like, I mean Quinton Johnson had a hundred yards today and Quinton Johnson's good at football again Lab Macconkey's awesome like Joshua Palmer. I think is a top three receiver for him It's not like he's throwing to the best receivers and he just is really really good at football and the Chargers
Starting point is 00:52:44 Defense is awesome and they have here and the Chargers defense is awesome And they have here's the thing with and this is why it kills me You know we'll get to the Bears but like the Harbaugh why I love Harbaugh and why people like oh you glaze her What Harbaugh does when you when you get a guy like Jim Harbaugh? He gives your team an identity the Chargers have an identity They play tough hard football and when you have an identity. They play tough, hard football, and when you have an identity, you can win games. That's huge. I think a different way of saying that is also saying that the minor, the stupid mistakes,
Starting point is 00:53:14 the weird ways that the Chargers have found to lose football games in the last, I don't know, 15 years, those tend to go away with a great coach like this because he gives you an identity and he gives you an identity and he gives you a belief and then you start paying attention to all the details, the details mean something to you, right? Because you feel like you're a part of something that's bigger. You feel and so you do like if you have a great teacher in school that connects with you and you enjoy that class, you're going to try a little bit harder on every single
Starting point is 00:53:41 assignment than you would for a teacher that you don't give a fuck about. Right. And you go into a game and you're like, these coaches have a game plan for us to win this game. Yeah. We're going to play good defense. We're going to run the football. Like they, it just, they have an identity and they know how they want to play football games and how they want to dictate games. And that just goes such a long way in the NFL. And yeah, I'm very high on the Chargers And I think they're a good like they are if you look at we were just talking about the Broncos if you look at the the ASC playoff picture and you take out the
Starting point is 00:54:16 Division winners and the Ravens So that's the Chiefs the Bills the Steelers the Texans and the Ravens because the Ravens are technically second right now in the FC North the Steelers, the Texans, and the Ravens because the Ravens are technically second right now in the AFC North. There's those two spots left and I think the Chargers are one of those two spots because it's between the Chargers, the Broncos, the Colts, the Bengals, and I'll even throw in the Jets for you memes. Out of those five teams, I think the Chargers are one of the two best of those five. Yeah, their defense is so good. They've allowed the third fewest points per game by any team through eight games in the last 15 seasons I don't think anyone has scored over 20 points on them
Starting point is 00:54:50 No, yeah, but the the others that are in those the top four of the the best defenses in terms of scoring The others in that top four they all made the playoffs and they all won at least 11 games Yes, they they are a legit team. And I think if you just take that great defense and then Herbert, we know is a good quarterback. He's just, he's just been abused. He's like a homeless animal that now has its forever home. I think that if you can get, you know, 75% of how good Justin Herbert has been at his best in his career.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah, they're, they're a good team. They've got holes. They've got weaknesses. Yeah, of course. They're not super explosive on offense. I think it's starting to get there in terms of they're starting to pass the ball more. We talked about on Friday how Justin Herbert's pass attempts have gone up the last few weeks. It's clear that they're trying to let him rip it a little, especially with guys getting healthier. But yeah, this is a solid, fundamentally sound team and what I expected them to do is beat a not fundamentally sound team in the Browns.
Starting point is 00:55:51 The Browns are definitely, like they have to sell. Yeah. If they could sell anything. What are they going to sell? Well, Mike Tannenbaum. Did you see that on Get Up? No. Mike Tannenbaum, former that on get up. No, Mike tannin bomb, former jets GM, former jets, GM cargo shorts, one of the worst trade hypothetical trades I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm happy you didn't see this because I'm gonna tell it to you. Okay. And it was, it was so bad. He got laughed, like in his face on get up. He got laughed in his face. Who? Everyone on the panel. Greenie. I don't know if Greenie was there that day. Here's what it is. The Detroit Lions get Miles
Starting point is 00:56:31 Garrett. Okay. Good trade for the Lions. The Browns get, I'll start with the least amount. Second round pick. Okay. I need to see what Miles Garrett's contract hold on hold on that was the least that was the second round pick. Mm-hmm three first round picks and Jamir Gibbs That's yeah, that was the trade he proposed It was one of the worst trades proposed of all time who's all time who says no who says no Everyone was like dude. What are you? He's like, well, Jameer Gibbs is redundant to David Montgomery. It's like, have you watched the lions game? The whole point is they have these guys that you cannot stop. Like there, you can't take away one of them. The whole
Starting point is 00:57:14 point is like they have, they have a Sonic and knuckles. Does he have any, any connections to the Browns right now? Is he just trying to gas up miles Garrett's trade value? I don't know what it was. It was, it was shocking was shocking and it was when I say everyone laughed everyone laughed in his face and then everyone was like this guy was the fucking GM. And he and he kept on saying like when they were laughing in his face. Oh yeah. He kept on saying but the Lions will win the Super Bowl. Yeah I would. He's like the Lions are going to win the Super Bowl with Miles Garrett. But it's like dude you just if they don't win the Super Bowl, you just gave up everything. Yeah, I would say that this is a great trade for the Browns. Second round pick for Miles
Starting point is 00:57:51 Garrett. Three first. Yeah, but just a second on its own sounds like it's a pretty heavy price, right? Yeah, I don't know what his how long is he signed for? He signed for three more years. Yeah, okay. Yeah, second. You'd have to give up a first round pick for Miles Garrett. Yeah, yeah, I was assuming that this was like maybe the last two years of his contract three four that he he made that's like I don't even know it was such an insane thing and he just kept on being like but they're gonna win a Super Bowl with Miles Garrett yeah that's not that's not a trade that's gonna happen so I don't even know how we got here
Starting point is 00:58:25 Oh because the Browns should trade miles Garrett. They should trade. Yeah, if anybody wants any of their players just pay everyone's open Yeah, just nobody's off-limits. I get an interesting side about this game big cat. Oh, okay Teams in the NFL are now 0 and 2 on the season When playing a Harbaugh brother just after beating a Harbaugh brother. Oh, yeah. First Raiders. Remember that? Antonio Pierce. Yeah. And I think that was the same thing where they both beat John and then Jim avenged his brother's loss. Yeah. So Jim is now 2-0 on avenging losses for his brother. Do we have any more of these situations coming up? We actually do. The Bengals have an opportunity to do just that over their next two games. Oh. so the Bengals might be doing it reverse. Who do the Bengals?
Starting point is 00:59:08 No, no, the Bengals play the Ravens next week and then they play the Chargers. So if the Bengals beat the Ravens, hammer the Chargers. Yes. If the trend holds, you could also say that there's a trend that teams that play the Harbaugh brothers back to back weeks- Go one and one. Always go, they always go one and oh. They always win the first first leg of it. Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. You would say Bengals know they always go one on one though. No, but they go one on one their first year first one. So they all they always beat john and then lose to Jim. Got it. Got it. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:59:38 it's a trend. So the Bengals win on Thursday. Chargers. Yep. The next week. That is a trend. That's a trend. That's a pretty big sample size too. I do think that Jim Harbaugh sees a team beat his brother. 100%. He's like, fuck these guys. Without a doubt. He absolutely does.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Especially because even though John is older, Jim is. Yeah, Jim, he deputized himself as being- Jim definitely has slipped up and said my baby brother John. I yeah I bet you Jim has signed permission slips for John John definitely once a year has to be like, you know, I'm older than you right like I am older than you He is right. Yeah, okay. Good. I see I'm I'm cuz like he's not yeah Jim is older Jim's a big brother Jim is Jim is big brother vibes. He's he's a ultimate big brother. Let's see John Harbaugh You're right. I think John's a couple years older. Yeah, but Jim is older Jim is the older brother 62 John is 62
Starting point is 01:00:38 How old is Jim and then Jim is? It doesn't matter 60. Yeah. Yeah, but Jim's older. Yeah. We got it next time we have mom we got to say ask him that. Jim definitely a little bros. John. Yeah, we got it. We got to do like one of those trick ones where it's like, you know, we're like, what is the you know, what's the color? What's that color? White? What's that color? White? And then what do cows drink milk? The fuck up and say cows drink milk. We're gonna do that with him. I just you like what's me up when you said that Yeah, you can fuck people up with that the we gotta be like what's older like older or younger and then just get him to Be like yeah, I'm older than it. Yeah, he would say he absolutely would okay next game
Starting point is 01:01:18 Bengals 41 Raiders 24 are the Bengals back or do they play the Raiders? I think they're both Joe burrow was awesome. I think they're both back and also played the Raiders 24 are the Bengals back or do they play the Raiders? I think they're both. Joe burrow was awesome. I think they're both back and also played the Raiders because uh, Joe had a Joe burrow had a great quote after the game because he didn't look happy during this. No he's pissed at five touchdowns right? Did I have a pick six? He had a pick six, five touchdowns and he looked, he looked pissed the entire game. Even when they were scoring, when they were winning after the game, he looked pissed off. He said, if we don't score a touchdown on a drive, I'm not gonna be very happy for the rest of the year So he's flipped the switch Yeah, he's flipped the switch five five touchdowns. He's flipped the switch he
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah, he's he's gonna be hard on himself hard on everyone else and Trey Hendrickson had a great game to Trey Henderson had four sacks Chase Brown had a great game. It was crazy. He threw five touchdowns. None of them Jamar chase. Yeah And the Bengals they needed this game Joe burrow also like watching Joe burrow play he is the definition of Like his ability to scramble inside the pocket is so goddamn good where it's like he's not the most athletic guy He's not gonna beat you with his feet, but he does beat you with your feet his feet You know what I mean? You know I'm saying he'll start escaping to the right and then when he's halfway to the sidelines find a guy
Starting point is 01:02:36 Keep place going. Yeah, where it's like he's never gonna run But he's just gonna keep the play alive for those extra few seconds that always end up in a completion but yeah, the Raiders are one of the saddest teams out there right now because we had yet again Antonio Pierce just frustratingly bench Gardner Minchu for Desmond Ritter. So this is I think two times now that he's just not for injury, just like, I'm sick of you Gardner, get out of here. What did you expect? He's just hoping he's just Gardner Minshew. Like I love Gardner Minshew, but like you can't go into a game with Gardner Minshew as your starter and be like, this is going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:03:13 He's just hoping that the next guy that he puts in is going to be electric. Like putting in Desmond Ritter and you think that you're going to get his last year at Cincinnati Desmond Ritter. Yeah. Yeah. So the Raiders are ass ass. They say that hope isn't a strategy. I think for the Raiders it is. Yeah, it's not working. They've reached the point where it's just like, I hope that AOC is gonna be good when I put him in.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I hope that Gardner is gonna be good once I've benched him already. I hope that Desmond Ritter somehow is good now. Yeah, and it's never gonna happen. No. It's never gonna happen. By the way, to happen. No, it's never going to happen. By the way, AOC, yeah, he's hurt, right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:50 He hurt his foot. I saw a very funny, someone tried to make the argument. What year was Aidan O'Connell drafted? I want to say it was- 22. Was it the- oh it's 2023 NFL draft Someone pointed out wait. I'm gonna pull it up. Oh it was after CJ Stroud had a bad Thursday night game and
Starting point is 01:04:14 Someone was like isn't it crazy that in O'Connell is the best quarterback for this draft class Mm-hmm cuz it was like it's like CJ Stroud Bryce Young Anthony Richardson I don't know we'll have us will love this Obviously was a joke because CJ shroud is very good head and hooker Jake Hayner Stetson Bennett Clayton tune DTR Sean Clifford Jaron Hall Max Duggan and then a no Connell Was he the best was he the best quarterback in that draft? There was one that you said that was like the fifth or sixth?
Starting point is 01:04:50 Jake Hayner? Yeah, Jake Hayner, no, not him. Who's before him? Let's see, Clayton Toon, definitely not him. Was it that? Hennan Hooker? Yeah, Hennan Hooker. He might be good. Stetson Bennett? We don't know. Oh, DTR. He's played a little.
Starting point is 01:05:04 I don't think Hennan Hooker has lost a game that he's been in. That's facts. That's facts. But yeah, the Raiders are just so sad. It's crazy how many teams are really, really bad. This early too, because like you said, what was the stat? Nine teams or two wins? Nine teams have two wins.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Nine teams have two wins in week nine. It feels like at least usually like three or four of those teams would have three wins, which I know it sounds crazy to say, but two and six versus three and five is a big fucking difference. It is. To having two wins right now is, I can't believe that it's possible for nine teams to have two wins. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:41 They're just really, really bad teams. Yeah. We were right. Yeah. When we were talking about, we did the ass list. Yeah, we did the ass list. So, yeah, the Raiders are ass and the Bengals are maybe bad. The Bengals, it all comes down to the next three weeks. They play the Ravens, the Chargers, and the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah. That's, if they can go, if they can survive that stretch two and one, I think they can be in the playoff team. If they go one and two then we're talking about you literally cannot lose another game mm-hmm that that that's really what it comes down to and that that Thursday night game against the Ravens could be awesome yeah very very excited for that game it's nice having a big matchup on Thursday yes very very nice and then we followed up with Eagles
Starting point is 01:06:22 commanders the week after Wow which That one's gonna be a must-watch stream perm perm bet perm bet okay next up Bengals back. I'm gonna say Bengals back Yeah, I the Bengals could be back They could be I still don't know if they're back if they beat the Ravens. They are officially a hundred percent back I'd never really stop believing that the Bengals could be back potentially, but there's just so many things they can't fuck up even once. I think when we said when they lost to the Ravens, I think we looked ahead and we're like, there's a very good chance that when they play the Ravens next, it will be to get back to 500, which would obviously be huge if they get to five and five, because then I feel like if you get to five and five then a little bit of the pressure comes off where it's like hey we don't have to win every single game down the stretch.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Okay. Panthers 23 Saints 22. Holy shit there's a lot of in this game. Let's start with the crazy stat Bill Barnwell said the Saints eight outgain the Panthers by 150 plus yards ran for 150 plus yards and won the turnover battle last battle last 20 years teams were 275 and oh doing that now 275 and one the Saints ran the ball down their throat. Bryce Young was not terrible and the Panthers end up winning this game. Good for the Panthers. Every single person that's ever been associated with the Saints decided to take to Twitter and tweet about this. It's like everything and it's
Starting point is 01:07:51 like fires everywhere. Yeah. For the New Orleans Saints right now. Michael Thomas during the game during the game. Michael Thomas went off. Do you want to do you have the tweets in front of you? I don't have. I don't have slantman's tweets in front of me. I've got some other ones though. Okay, yeah. So Michael Thomas, we'll pull those up. We had Chris Olave get another concussion which sucked and he got carted off. His brother was giving updates and was like, my brother's awake and responsive at the hospital, like everything's good.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Then someone said, so he said, bro, just called, he's up and active. A guy quoted said, might be time to have that, is it worth it talk? And Joshua Lavi wrote back, ain't worth it in NOLA. I'll tell you that. So that's not good. We also had, who was it? Oh, Colleen Saunders took to Twitter and he said, fans say keep losing so we can get number one pick hell throw me in a QB shit. Let's have something fun to watch. Motherfuckers is cheekbones shake my head. New Orleans y'all deserve better. My only goal is to finish above 500 at this point. Cheekbones cheekbones and then someone said damn bro. So are we last or y'all and he said
Starting point is 01:09:07 well that wasn't I don't think that was someone I think that was Lonnie Johnson sorry yeah yeah Lonnie Johnson jr. Said are we last or y'all yeah and he said Lonnie brother shut your weak ass up we will both be in Cabo January 10th I know we ain't in no last place argument this is absurd yeah cam Jordan also tweeted we just lost to the Panthers and then JC horn replied dude we got the same record Yeah Like that that says all right there the Saints thought that they were above the Panthers and they're not they're not at all and then there's lost Seven in a row there's another Saunders tweet. That's very funny, too
Starting point is 01:09:43 He said if that was a college bowl game that motherfucker would have been called the cottonel doo doo bowl We just lost the cottonel doo doo bowl. Oh shit So here's what Michael Thomas said cottonel doo doo bowl cottonel doo doo bowl. That's a great one Michael Thomas said they fired all them coaches trying to cover his flaws up. He's still doing the same shit This is about Derek Carr. Oh no, it started with Derek Carr. For you I've been told you're all shit sad. This is after Chris Olavi gets injured. Dude's scary and panic and just throw the ball. Get him the fuck out of here. So ass. That year his buddy went first team all-pro in 2022. He needed 180 targets just to catch 100 passes.
Starting point is 01:10:21 He is ass on my granny. 100 passes. He is ass on my granny. Dude tried to lie and say I was jealous of them making Chris wide receiver one whole time he can't even get him a decent ball. He need his ass whooped. And they fired all them coaches trying to cover his flaws up. Still doing the same shit. I feel bad for Derek Carr. Derek Carr had to answer this in the post game press conference. He answered it just like he thought Derek Carr would. He's like, I don't know why he hates me. I've tried to reach out to him. It sucks. Like I, it just sucks. But yeah, that was a full meltdown of everyone in the Saints world while the Saints lost to the Panthers. Yeah, it was tough. I did feel bad for, for Derek Carr too. I also saw this stat from Josh Duboe. He put out a list of the most losses as a starting quarterback.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Through four seasons, it's David Carr. Through five seasons, it's David Carr. Through six seasons, it's David Carr. Through seven seasons, it's Derek Carr. Through eight seasons, Derek Carr. Nine seasons, Derek Carr. Ten seasons, Derek Carr. And then 11 seasons, where we're at right now, Derek Carr and Archie 11 seasons where we're at right now, Derek Carr and Archie Manning are tied. So with one more loss, then that becomes Derek Carr's as well. Derek Carr also is the first quarterback to start in losses versus 31 NFL teams.
Starting point is 01:11:39 He plays the Raiders on 12-29. OK. I saw the stat and I looked up the other quarterbacks that are on that list. And you pretty much have to be like a good quarterback to be on that list. Or have played forever. Yeah, you've played forever.
Starting point is 01:11:52 You play forever, you start forever. Flacco's on that list at 30. And I believe Flacco has the opportunity to lose to one of the two teams that he hasn't lost to yet. OK. If you look at the cold schedule. So he might get to 31 maybe. But Derek Carr has a big game against the Raiders on December 29th.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But they are the Raiders. They are the Raiders. But they're the Saints. They're the Saints. The Saints are no longer above anyone. I just did it. Yeah. I just did the Cam Jordan in real time.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I'm happy that Bryce Young got a win. Yeah. Like that was good. He had a really, he had a competent game. He had a nice lighted on fire, but he had a competent game, which is a big step up from what we saw last last year in the beginning of this year. Yeah. He had a couple of nice passes to Xavier LeGate. Yeah. They're, they're a very young team at wide receiver. Now he looked like he had fun yeah and good good for the Panthers I this is I mean you have to you have to be happy for the Panthers and their fans because being on that team has to be just like hell so even winning one game just for a week to be able to be like shit we can actually
Starting point is 01:13:01 smile for a week in the building yeah this is fun and just know that the Saints what cam Jordan tweeted out, that's what all the saints thought about you. Yeah. They thought that they were five times better than the Panthers and they're not an organization. They're not there. They're maybe, I'm not going to say the biggest bummer in the NFL, but they're definitely in the top four bummers in the NFL just in terms of watching the team because you recognize everything about the
Starting point is 01:13:25 Saints. They've got so many guys that have been on that team for so long. But it's like when you see the commercials with all the guys from the office on it and you're like, well, I recognize all those guys from that TV show that I used to like. They're doing a commercial together, but it's not the same. They're old. They're not those same characters anymore. That's what the Saints are right now.
Starting point is 01:13:43 They're just a collection of guys that used to be good together eight years ago. Yeah, right. They're just- And they're not going to change. Right. They wear the same uniform. They're some of the same names, but they're not. I would be shocked if Jimmy Graham suited up at some point this year for the Saints,
Starting point is 01:13:57 right? Would that blow your mind? No, not at all. It would not. Not even close. He actually should. He absolutely should. But yeah, the Saints whoo
Starting point is 01:14:06 it's Dennis Allen is the I was looking it up He's now 26 and 52 is a head coach and there's only two head coaches in history who have coached as many games as he has With the worst losing percentage. He's the third worst NFL head coach of all time. And how who are those other guys? They were? Let's see. Yeah. Pull it up. He's so so bad. I don't know how he's still in employed. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:14:37 salary cap doesn't count against coaches. You can move on from a coach. So it is. Let's look this up, coaches records if I use sort by win-loss percentage, it believes, so Dennis Allen is 16th worst coach just based on win-loss percentage and then the only coaches who have coached more games than him with the worst recorders Marion Campbell who has 34 and 80 all-time coaching record and then you had Joe Bugle. Joe Bugle was 24 and 56. If he loses a couple more games he will be the worst coach of all time. It's crazy. He's so so bad. Joe Bugle, great offensive line coach. Yeah. It's it's it's shocking that Dennis Allen is I don't know how he still has I
Starting point is 01:15:33 mean, I guess I do know how he still has a job but I don't know how I don't really know. I think it's really because he's so unremarkable. Yeah, I don't get it. Like if they went to fire him, they'd be like, what does he look like again? Yeah, I don't understand. I Like if they went to fire him, they'd be like, what does he look like again? Yeah, I don't understand I have not seen anything Redeemable about Dennis Allen since he's taken over as the coach of the Saints if Dennis Allen walked by you on the street Would you notice? Okay, I don't think so. I've thought this about Zach Taylor
Starting point is 01:15:56 Yeah, but I think I know I think I would know Zach Taylor at this point Kevin O'Connell Kevin O'Connell I know he's tall if Zach Taylor wasn't, if he was wearing like, I don't know, like a sweater and khakis and no hat. And then if Dennis Allen was wearing a sweater, khakis, no hat, they walked past me. I don't think I recognize either one of them. If Mincy brought Dennis Allen into this office, but didn't tell us it was Dennis Allen, I don't think I would know. If he told you it was the quarterback coach of Ole Miss. Yeah, if he was, or he's like,
Starting point is 01:16:28 this is a friend from the South. Yeah. I'm like, oh, nice to meet you. He'd be like, hi, I'm Dennis. I'm like, wait, what? Yeah. Dennis? Dennis Allen?
Starting point is 01:16:35 Worst coach of all time? Yeah, get out. Holy shit. Okay, next up, Hank, last early game. Titans 20 Patriots 17 Your thoughts Drake may played decent The the touchdown drive to tie the game was good and the the last touchdown specifically like yeah
Starting point is 01:17:02 Yeah, he was running. He's keep him. Yeah, that was a good, you know end of game Rep for him to get and to be successful and so that was good to see Interceptions weren't great, especially in overtime. He kind of said afterwards though, you know the best play sometimes just throw it in complete Tried to be a hero didn't work out We're back at the top of the Tankathon. Tankathon. You are? Nice. So in that way it's a win. Draft Samara, who do you take? Shnur? I feel like you got to take the best player in college football. Travis Hunter, yeah. Travis Hunter, that's a good point. That's a really good point. You get two players for one with him. It's tremendous value. So-
Starting point is 01:17:41 Travis Hunter and Christian Gonzalez. Psh. Gonzalez Well, would you Travis Hunter can catch Yeah, but I'm saying defensively like that. Yeah. Yeah Are you are you not saying that the Patriots are sellers at the trade deadline? Because I know that you were towing that line between no those are reports that I never understood. Yeah So yeah, I would definitely say we're sellers. I don't know. What would you sell? Yeah, I don't We could probably give away all of our wide receivers for like a bag of donuts. Okay box of donuts Ramon Dre
Starting point is 01:18:14 Ramon, I mean he played well. He scored our only two touchdowns. I Don't really know what will sell. I don't know someone I saw another report that was like people teams are asking about Gonzalez That would be insane. That would be crazy. A young, great player like that. You can't do that. Don't get rid of him. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:18:32 That's all you got? Titans? I can't quit the Titans because their defense is good. Are they good or do they play the Patriots? No, they've actually been statistically very good this year. And very good, I mean, relatively for a two-win team. Yeah. They're like a top-ten defense Statistically yeah, I mean that you guys are giving me shit for this game fell under the category of like this game was not exciting
Starting point is 01:18:53 To watch knows terrible game to know it was it was fun at the very end I needed Drake to have over 200 yards passing so that was It was weird watching you watch it and you were like It was like you had no care about the actual outcome Which I you I mean you you want to lose but it was weird watching that you're just like I just want him to pass it And then when we went to overtime, you're like don't screen pass Yeah, there was a moment where it was actually right after Drake made his interception. Hank was just like, yes, like quietly, like it's over.
Starting point is 01:19:30 He's not going to throw a screen pass. It's going to go for negative yards. But I mean, hey, you're taking so that's okay. Yeah, yeah. Hank, Hank is being logical when it comes to his team. I think a lot of times us as fans, we're not logical. Like last year I was, I was rooting for Washington to win every game going down the stretch
Starting point is 01:19:47 that they end up losing. I'm very glad that we lost those games. You should not, it makes sense to root for your team to lose when they're in a position like this. So Hank is very clear headed about that, especially given how there's so many shitty teams right now. Like every loss matters, Hank. Yeah, it was a good loss.
Starting point is 01:20:02 This was actually a great loss. Exciting, fun to watch loss. This was maybe the best loss because it was against a team that had one win. Drake may makes the Patriots watchable. We told you when he got in when you were like I don't want him to play. We're like no you do want him to play because it makes it so that there's actually something to watch. And the reason was because the offensive line I didn't realize how bad our wide receivers were Yeah past two weeks have been shocking can't catch so this did break the combo Or the trend of teams that just got done playing the Lions stinking the next week But the Patriots covered covered the spread. So that's that's what really matters. That was huge
Starting point is 01:20:40 That's it. That's all you got. Is there something I'm missing? No, I don't think so. It was a very boring game. No, no, I don't think you should tell me about Mayo. How'd Mayo do today? Was he boy straight? He should have gone for two. There's some. Yeah, let's talk about that for two. You're, you're a one win team or two in team. you're on the road, you score an insane touchdown to get within one with time gone. Like it was literally zeros on the clock. Why wouldn't you just go for two? Yeah, I don't disagree. Like it's just, at this point, like he's coaching scared, but just try to win the game right there. That maybe he wasn't trying to win the game. You're right. Think about it that way. But but yeah I would have gone for two there there's there's no reason not
Starting point is 01:21:28 to go for two there it just made like just fuck it then the game on the field yeah keep the momentum keep the momentum exactly okay yeah I mean the Titans are a tough watch Mason Rudolph makes them somewhat competent is offensively his Levis actually hurt Or is this a I think it might gonna go with Mason because we think we're gonna say that will Levises banged up We don't want the whole team to revolt right now. Yeah might be one of those Might be one of those cuz he he definitely brings competency to them. Yeah that they didn't have he brings a little bit of a little bit of boringness.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Definitely boringness and you have a good defense. I mean that in a good way. Yeah. Like a stable guy. Yeah. He's a guy that is I'm going to settle down with this guy. Yeah. Okay. Let's do the afternoon games. Before we do that, PFT, you have two more ads and we'll do the afternoon games. Before we get back to more games, we're brought to you by our good friends over at Thorne. Thorne's got a wide range of highly effective nutritional supplements that are made to promote and maintain your health goals throughout all of your life stages. Thorne is backed by science. It takes a personalized approach to optimizing your health and wellness, teaming up with leading medical professionals to develop their products.
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Starting point is 01:24:51 us all on Twitter but if you don't I had to go to the ER on Saturday because I have kidney stones so I was in intense intense pain I was actually pulling into the zoo with my kids and I my whole body locked up and I was actually pulling into the zoo with my kids and I, my whole body locked up and I was sweating profusely and my stomach felt like it was going to explode and my back hurt. So I went to the ER on Saturday, spent like two hours at the ER, had a scan. They told me I have four kidney stones, one that's currently passing through my body. I've been in just intense pain, Woke up in intense pain this morning.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Been taking pain pills. Just pissing non-stop. All that said... Have you passed any stones? I have not yet. We're working on one real bad. But all that said, as bad as going to the ER is and all the pain I'm in and kidney stones
Starting point is 01:25:41 is some of the worst pain ever. That was not even close to the worst part of my weekend because this game, watching this game, was by far and away the worst part of my weekend. And this team has quit and Matt Eberfluss is a loser and he needs to be fired, which he won't be because the Bears will never fire a coach in the middle of the season. They have been around for 100 plus years. They have never fired a coach in the middle of a season. They have been around for a hundred plus years. They have never fired a coach in the middle of the season. This team quit. It's an utter disaster. Lifeless garbage. Matt or Matt Eberfluss is a loser, just full blown loser. He has he is loser. He has he is. Oh and 18 on Sundays on the road. That's that was a crazy stat when I saw that they took my breath away. He has won three road games in the last three
Starting point is 01:26:31 years at the commanders on Thursday night football at the Patriots on Monday night football and then he beat the Vikings on Monday night football. He is oh and 18 on the road on Sundays. He's never won a Matt Nagy Matt Matt Nagy they're all the same by the way They're all the same Matt Nagy Mark Tressman and Matt Iberfluss John Fox are all the same Matt They just fucking all they do is hire Just fucking pussy head coaches that are just can be bossed around and they suck and they just don't they're not leader of men Matt Iberfluss has never gotten on a plane with his team on a Sunday being like, Hey, we feel good. I guess they did beat the Jaguars. That was technically a home game in London, but the think about
Starting point is 01:27:18 that. He's never gotten on a plane on a, on a Sunday been like great wind boys never happened. That's insane. It's crazy. Oh, and 18 it, that's a huge sample size too. It's he's a loser. I agree with you, Matt, Matt Nagy, Scott, sorry, Matt Eberflue. They're all the same loser. He's a loser. He knew he was a loser. I've known he's been a loser, but I was like, listen, I'm going to trust Ryan Paul's like whatever you're gonna have to go with this I I had these problems last year, but it's like fuck it. We're all in we're gonna just do it with Matt Iberfluss He got a fucking haircut. He went on hard knocks. He got funked up. Shout out our guy funky actually is legit Matt Iberfluss is a fucking loser though. He's a loser amongst losers and he he's just perfect for this Bears
Starting point is 01:28:05 organization that's run by losers and they're not serious and it's just so depressing to be back at this spot. Credit to Matt Eberfluss though. You almost said Nicky again. I almost did credit to Matt Eberfluss. He did say that's on me again this week. Yeah. So after the although he didn't say that last week he said that it starts with me after he got bullied and he didn't say it for three days. Okay. So it's like he didn't see it just like he didn't make a decision on Tyreke Stevenson for three days. So and basically got bullied into benching him and then that became a whole story. Tyreke Stevenson bullied him for benching him. The guy can't make a decision.
Starting point is 01:28:46 But he did take responsibility for the play right before halftime this week. That was the quit play. It was a quit play. And he said, that one was on me, hand up. I called a pass defense and left us exposed to that run. Does that show that he's learning? Not only because he's able to take responsibility so much faster, and then also does it show that he's learning because at the end of a half instead of trying to give up or letting the other team have those easy 10 yards to put them in Hail Mary
Starting point is 01:29:13 position he played a pass defense. So he adjusted from what he did last week and then got absolutely torched on a run this week. He's so bad. He's bad. He's so bad. I don't want to, I'm not saying I told you so to you Big Cap but week. He's so bad. He's bad. He's so bad. He's I, I don't want to, I'm not saying I told you so to you big cap, but I knew he was bad. I had to go with it. But what are you going to do? No, I know you did. I'm saying that the bears are idiots
Starting point is 01:29:34 for keeping Moran. Yeah, no shit. I knew that. But once they made the decision, I wanted who was at the front of the line trying to get Jim Harbaugh. I made shirts for it. Jim Harbaugh would have changed everything about this franchise. They would never bring an alpha in who would command the, the, the, would, would walk into house hall and be everyone's boss. They wouldn't let that happen. After your team makes a decision to bring him back, you can't just be like, fuck Matt Eberfluss for the next like nine months. You got to just basically be like, hope this works out. And then knowing all too well that you'll end up exactly at this spot where it's like, get this fucking guy out of my life. Get Shane Waldron out of my life.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Listen, I like Ryan Pulse for what he's done for this roster, but if he stays loyal to Matt Eberfluss, that is a, a insane, insane indictment on, on his decision-making because already we're, we're looking at the offensive line that is just so so I mean I know people are gonna want me to bash Cale Williams I'm not changing on Cale Williams could Cale Williams get ruined by what's happening with Matt Eberfluss in this offensive line absolutely I'm not changing on Cale Williams the offensive line the Arizona Cardinals have no they have no pass rush they They had to twice this entire season. They
Starting point is 01:30:46 had three sacks or more in a game. They had three sacks and three consecutive plays today. Yeah. That was a bad drive. That's how fucking bad this offensive line this play calling Shane Waldron goes into every game with just like it feels like he's going on vibes. Yeah. There's just no rhyme or reason. I mean I knew we were fucked once Montez sweat was out before the game, but the defense got gashed finally. And I think that was the, that was the point where it's like for the first part of the season, even last half of last year, you could at least hang your hat on. Matt Eberfaluse is doing a great job with the defense. The defense has turned around and been an elite defense for, like I said,
Starting point is 01:31:25 the last half of last year, first half of this year, they've been a top 10 unit. Today they quit, today they quit. And you saw it all week with all the people, you know, Jalen Johnson and Bayard and Cole Comment all saying like, Hey, we, we got even Caleb Williams, like we got to be a player led team, essentially saying we don't have a coach. Yeah. And Matt Eberfluss got lucky too at the end of this game because Caleb should not have been in for that last series. Such a fucking moron loser piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:31:55 And Caleb, he went down awkwardly. I think it was the last play of the game, but it could have been a lot worse. It could have been like fireball. Like if they didn't fire Matt Eberfluss, if he got his quarterback injured in a game like this then they're just never gonna fire the guy. It would have been like the worst coaching decision of the year in the NFL. They just yeah they played like they played soft. They played quick. They look afraid. They look lost. The the Cardinals and credit to Cardinals. Cardinals I think are like they're a a good team Kyler didn't even have to be hero Kyler today
Starting point is 01:32:27 They just ran the ball down our throat He made the plays when he needed to make but it wasn't like Kyler had to run around and make incredible plays They just they just lined up and just beat us the first half they were running the football down your throat down our throat the Next-gen stats were running the football down your throat down our throat. The next gen stats, 16 different Cardinals got a pressure against the Bears on Sunday. The Cardinals had a 26.6% pressure rate going into the game. They pressured Caleb Williams on 46% of his dropout. He's a 16 Cardinals 16 Cardinals. That's so
Starting point is 01:33:01 hard to do. They they're like pulling guys off the bench being like hey you want to get a pressure Go ahead just get in the game 46.6 percent pressure that's got to be the most amount of players to get a pressure in an NFL game right since 2018 Only only in those six years. Yeah, that seems just insane to me. It's it's just an all-out Disaster I'm so so like I'm sick All out disaster. I'm so, so like I'm sick. It was, if we didn't have to stream the game, I would have turned the game off because it was such a gross, gross watch and the team has quit and Matty Bafouz has to go, has to go. They will not fire him in the middle of the season because the McCaskys run the fucking organization. Like it's 1925 and it doesn't fucking matter to
Starting point is 01:33:42 them. Uh, and we'll probably hire another weenie as a head coach. I'll get my hopes up that it's Ben Johnson and then we'll be like, oh, you know, the defensive coordinator for the fucking Panthers did a pretty good job this year. Let's hire him. Yeah. Oh, fuck. This is, you know, oh, did you see the offense for, you know, the offense for the the fucking I don't even know like the cow Oh the Cowboys offense actually turned around at the end of the year. Let's let's hire the offensive court like what it's so stupid You know what you know, who's good on TV Jason Garrett. Let's say let's get him back. It's fucking I I literally like daydream about what it would be like if Jim Harbaugh was the coach of this team because this team has talent and they just are just so so poorly
Starting point is 01:34:29 coached and we're just right back in the same bullshit and Caleb Williams deserves better and I convinced myself was to be different because I what am I supposed to do? I'm an idiot fan and I convinced myself it's gonna be different every year and it's the same shit. You just got to worry you alluded to it but get a worry about them breaking Kayla. Oh, absolutely It was a concern after the Texans game It's now DEFCON like red like whatever DEFCON you do because I I'm convinced it's gonna happen now There was a moment during a play where Kayla was running around with a ball and he
Starting point is 01:34:59 Shrugged and threw his arms up like what the fuck am I supposed to do during a play as he's scrambling and at that point you're like this guy is he's teetering right now it's just they suck and they're always gonna suck because the owners are gonna always do the same shit and it's just gonna be the same fucking shit over and over and over and I don't know why I get excited I shouldn't have got ever gotten excited I feel like an idiot. But yeah, and just I'm mad. He was a loser. Get him out. Bill Belichick. Josh Mcdane. Bill Belichick doesn't like Caleb Williams. You've told me that he bashed him on the inside the NFL. Mike Vrabel. Now that's a name. That's a that's a man. That's a man who would come in and
Starting point is 01:35:43 stuff all these fucking losers in a locker and be like this is how we're gonna play football you need the you need the guru offensive coordinator to though I think I agree with that Ben Johnson is I'm going to I'm gonna make a little dream board and every night I'm gonna kiss it I'm gonna kiss Ben Johnson on the lips and like please Ben come and save the franchise. What about this? What about a mix of what Hank's talking about? What about Vraib's head coach Josh McDaniel's OC? That's fine. Mike Vraibel would be the most competent coach since Luvvie. I mean that's the other thing is like you look at what the Bears have had
Starting point is 01:36:18 for the Mark Tressman, John Fox, Matt Nagy, Matt Eberfluss. They kicked, they kicked Lovey to the curb. I understand time, whatever, it runs great. He won 10 games and he's in, we've been searching for that competency since. And you get one blip, that's all the Braves franchise does, one blip every now and then, Lightning in a Bottle 2018. Oh shit, this might be something. I don't give a fuck. Ryan Day. Oh shit, this might be something. I don't give a fuck Ryan day Fuck Ryan day. No, if you could play Penn State every week, I Take Ryan day You know what? You know, I know I'm gonna get you know who they're gonna get they're gonna get stinking Riley
Starting point is 01:36:59 And that's gonna suck reunite him. Yeah, they're gonna get stinking Riley. He's going to, he's going to bolt from USC and that's going to, that's going to be a disaster. We're going to, and he's going to, he's going to get kale Williams playing good football and that defense is going to road and it's going to just be like the bears will then flip into a team that scores a lot and has the worst defense in the NFL. What would you say if this happened? You'd prefer that though, over this. Yeah I just want, I just want, I want to go into a game being like we got a head coach that could out coach the other side. Hasn't happened in a long ass time.
Starting point is 01:37:38 What would you think Big Cat, if the Cowboys fired Mike McCarthy? No. He does win games but no. I can't. I've said too many things. You've said a lot of things. I've said way too many things. That would be the funniest outcome. For you. For me, personally, yeah. Jason Garrett would be funny, too. Season's over. They're not going to the playoffs, obviously. They might not even beat the Patriots next week, because this is quit watch. This is full-on quit watch and Then they play everyone in the NFC North. We're gonna get our teeth kicked in every single week We have a bad play the Lions on Thanksgiving. You have a Marist bet between Big Cat and Hank. No, I
Starting point is 01:38:16 This team makes me sick. No, I Cuz they could they could have quit Yeah, I think that that first half and the first half was a quit play and I think this team just thinks they I think they know deep down They have a shit head coach who's a loser and once once the team knows that like I said the defense was the last to know Because he was a he is a good defensive coach, but once the defense figures it out. It's over It's over. It's over.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Whose line is it anyway for Patriots at Bears? Oh, at Bears? Bears, they've got the longest home winning streak in the NFL. I think we're probably four and a half point favorites. May 5? I think Big Cat's right. I think it's somewhere in between four and five. Bears minus seven seven you guys are
Starting point is 01:39:06 Yeah, you're good Wow, I'm just so down on this team. I don't know what else to say. I'm so sad I'm so stupid and all the sickos and perverts are so happy that they get to see this But if the true sickos and perverts should know it this is not the best way for this to happen Yeah, oh you wanted it to be more perverse. I mean the true sickos you wanted it to be really they want it They want you are you speak for the sickos and perverts. Yeah, you are you are number one We need we needed you higher before you got this low right because I only got I only got Jaguars 4 and 2 yeah You got this low right because I only got I only got Jaguars 4 and 2. Yeah
Starting point is 01:39:50 Yeah, that was it that was that was the that was the peak hang the banner Beat a terrible Jaguars team to go foreign to Like we needed hope for we need games that maybe Were for playoff spots. I didn't the minimum but, but I, okay. So I never season. It was like, yeah, but I know, no, no, no, no, no. No. I might've said some crazy shit over some of them, but I've been very clear. I even said, I think last week, I think, I think last week and two weeks ago I was like, if they don't go four and one in this stretch, which they didn't, there's no chance at the playoffs. So I knew this like this, the back half of the bear schedule is a gong. We're
Starting point is 01:40:28 not winning games against the Vikings, the Packers and the Lions. So you, you're, that's revisionist. I'd said, I think I said last week, we're not going to play out when PFD said that last week, obviously we were so foreign three. Yeah. But I was talking about before the season. Yeah. So you're right. Summertime I do get crazy. I'm sorry that I care about football in the summer unlike you call boy. That's a fact. Golf boy. You are back. You don't even know golf. You don't even know your schedule in the summer. Yeah. That's my favorite time. My favorite part of football season is August because I can get excited and the possibilities are in hard knocks and I get fucking pumped up
Starting point is 01:41:09 And I tell myself it's gonna be different And then it's slowly the air comes out of the balloon as the year goes along and then today it was popped We gotta get the guy get a good coach Yeah, don't say we it's never gonna happen though. It's never gonna happen for Chicago They don't they will not hire a good coach. They will not do it. I do not do feel bad like we had Bruce Arians in the fucking building and we hired Matt or Mark Trustman instead of him. That's the Bears. That is exactly what the Bears organization does. Bruce Arians went on to win a shitload of games with the Cardinals and then a shitload of games with the Bucs and we hired
Starting point is 01:41:46 Mark Treston. I actually think that Robert Sala is gonna be good coaches next stop. They'll hire Robert Sala That will definitely be the coach to hire a hundred percent. They'll be like, yeah, he's fine. He's great interview fucking coach defense, uh monsters of the Midway 1985 you know who was on that 1985 team? Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher? Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera as well. But Jeff Fisher as well. All right anything else? Cardinals are good. I'm buying on the Cardinals stock. I mean the Cardinals. So the Cardinals yes there's a good chance that the
Starting point is 01:42:22 Cardinals make the playoffs. I think they're a pretty good team. Yeah four out of five and I made fun of Jonathan again, and he's a good head coach We got the wrong guy from the Colts staff. They told that story today. They're like, oh, yeah, Matt Eberfluss is kids Babysat I almost said kidnapped babysat Jonathan Gannon's kids so cute. We got the wrong guy again Again, would you recognize Jonathan getting in the street? Yes. Pew pew explosives. Of course. I've watched that video a thousand times. What if he's wearing like a button up and like a vest? I don't think he can go anywhere without saying pew pew. This is what he does. All right. Here's a good thing. Here's the
Starting point is 01:42:58 one good thing that happened to me this weekend. The the Lions beat the shit out of the Packers and Jordan Love. So Lions 24 Packers 14. This is the only saving grace I had. The Packers also might be in trouble. Jordan Love does not look healthy right now. And he also loves throwing interceptions. That one at the end, the first half was absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what he was thinking on that. It was a dummy, dummy play. What Jules call them doy doy plays? Doy doy plays. Yeah, Jordan Love's got a few doy doy plays in him every game it seems like. He throws some of the funniest non-Jamis interceptions, but the Lions are just inevitable. You can't stop the Lions. They've got too many options, too many weapons. It's not like they lit the scoreboard
Starting point is 01:43:40 on fire this week. They played good football. They played good offensive football, but they didn't lit the scoreboard on fire this week. They played good football. They played good offensive football, but they didn't like throttle you like they have in weeks past. I think they could have if they wanted to but it was rainy weather, shitty weather, and they got up to a lead and they're like we got this and they they did a Dan Campbell where it's like the Packers chose to kick a field goal early in the game and the Lions, I think scored two touchdowns on fourth and ones. Yeah. And that's, that's what he does. And it's Dan Campbell, the way he coaches, you know, when they're going to go on fourth down, they play, they, he's so, they're so smart with how they operate. Ben Johnson and Dan Campbell, like their third
Starting point is 01:44:19 down play sets up their fourth down because they already know, right. They know when it's still second down, right? like they're like, okay Here's what we do if we don't get this We try to pick up some yards on third down Then we have an easy fourth down it never feels like you get to a fourth to fourth down with the Lions and they're like On the sideline being like hemming and hawing being like I don't know if we should go they knew what they were gonna Do before that one thing I've never seen them do is you call the think it over timeout, right? I hate to think it over timeout. Yes. I hate the think it over time out.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Yes. That's the worst time out that you can have in the biz. Uh, I'm on raw was great again today. Yeah. You were green Bay suck sweatshirt. I gotta buy one of those. The green Bay suck sweatshirt getting off the bus was pretty intense. Although I think he had green Bay as one word, not two, right?
Starting point is 01:44:59 Yeah. Just pretty disrespectful to the city. Yup. Uh, and then Jerry golf proved he could win an outdoor game in bad weather. Yeah, that's huge. Huge for Jared's confidence. Yeah, he was. And it was, it was like, um, the, the Packers moved the ball like pretty well. They just kept on shooting themselves in the foot with drop passes and penalties and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:19 And the Lions are a team that if you cause any like careless errors, they'll just punish you for it. You saw it with the pick six. That was just a bad, bad pass. And Kirby Joseph, I think that was a sixth interception this year. And the Lions are just, they're a wagon and they're kind of running away with the NFC North, even though I know the Vikings only have two losses but it feels like the Lions I don't know how you stop the Lions. Yeah Jameer Gibbs is just so fast when he gets the ball so crazy so they put up a stat I'd never seen before but I actually thought it was
Starting point is 01:45:54 pretty interesting they tracked the the speed that every ball carrier runs at the line of scrimmage so crossing the line of scrimmage Jameer Gibbs is Two miles per hour faster than the league average The league average is you're running nine miles per hour when you hit the line. He goes like 11 miles per hour That's good sir. And he you can see he likes he squirts through a lot of small holes. Yeah at the line they just the The Lions offense is I think it's close to unstoppable as you can get if they're all healthy The Lions offense is, I think, as close to unstoppable as you can get if they're all healthy. And James Williams has been, his suspension is now over.
Starting point is 01:46:29 It might be, but then there was also a report that the cop in Detroit looked the other way when they saw a gun in the car. Yeah, I don't know. Did he do, is it illegal to have a gun? I guess. I think some- Not- Not registered.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Yeah. And not put away. It was not registered? I think his brother might have been in the car and his brother had a gun that was registered to him, but then there might have been another gun in the car. Got it. And the cop was like, oh yeah, you're Jameson Williams from the Lions.
Starting point is 01:46:53 And his iPhone screensaver thing on his lock screen was like a big Lions logo. Yeah. And he showed it to me. He's like, look, I'm a big fan of yours. So now they're doing an investigation on that cop for whether or not he should have arrested Jameson Williams. He's a Lions fan, I'm a big fan of yours. So now they're doing an investigation on that cop for whether or not he should have arrested Jameson Williams. It's the Lions fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Lions are seven and one. Seven and one's first time since 1956. What's the point of being a pro sports player if you're not gonna get... Yeah, that's just... Right. Yeah. Right. That's a real, like a sports city that had recent success. They would know, you gotta look the other way. Yeah. Part of the deal. Jordan Love is not healthy. I don't know why they played him this week when they have a bye week coming up but it felt dangerous to play him in this weather. There were a couple looked he looked
Starting point is 01:47:33 not healthy. I'm hoping look I know Jordan loves good. I'm just hoping that he just keeps throwing dumb interceptions because that's kind of all I have at this point. Yeah. There were a couple steps that he made on that slick turf where it was like this guy should not be out here trying To cut yeah on that with like an injured groin and then Malik Willis is he's good Yeah, he's good. Let him play and I know the Packers are not a bad team But it did it did help me a little that they they they lost this game I the Bears the Packers are on a buy and then the next game they play is the Bears don't kill us by a hundred And I'll have to fucking deal with that and that will suck
Starting point is 01:48:06 really really bad. But maybe Jordan Love will keep throwing interceptions at really bad times. That's basically all I've got. Yeah. It's fun. That's fun to root for. Yeah. I don't think that the Detroit Lions necessarily need a pass rusher.
Starting point is 01:48:23 They still probably would want one. I know know everyone's like they're going to get one Yeah, but I think at the end of could think about it. I don't what I'm saying is I don't think that they're going to overpay for a pass I agree with that I think they're they they're gonna get someone because you do need at least an insurance plan Especially when it comes down to like a playoff football game the margins is so thin that having a guy who can win a one-on-one battle in the fourth quarter can be the difference between going to the Super Bowl and not. Yeah I mean it'd be awesome if they got Max Crosby. Yeah I don't think he's going to. Mark Davis loves him. Apparently they just reached out about him today or maybe
Starting point is 01:48:59 yesterday. Mark Davis did say Untouchable. They're still thinking about it. And I actually, Mark Davis might be the one guy that I think he might be just telling the truth. Yeah, because he's like Mark Davis doesn't feel like he's playing like a game of poker. You don't think he's a shrewd negotiator? Like it's it's when it comes to it. It's just a business and they don't take it personal. Like he's taking it personally. He's like Max Crosby is like a son to me. Yeah. But then Tom Brady might pick up the phone and make a call be like hey you got to do this Yeah, oh speak at Tom Brady in this game He got mad because Brian Branch got ejected for that helmet to helmet hit
Starting point is 01:49:31 Yeah, that one seems like a pretty dirty hit pretty bad hit yeah, I like Brian Branch too by the way I think he's one of the most entertaining players of the secondary in the NFL right now But he got he got ejected for that helmet to helmet hit and then Brady started to say how that call makes no sense to eject him for it. Like, throw the flag, give it 15 yards, don't kick him out of the game. And then all the Twitter narcs out there, Mike Florio's of the world, various other aggregators
Starting point is 01:49:58 out there, started pointing out that Tom Brady is technically not allowed to criticize officiating as an announcer. So what's the NFL going to do about that? It's funny because Tom Brady's gotten himself into a situation which is basically impossible where he's not allowed to criticize the officiating as a analyst during a game or talk to the teams beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. There's really no sense. There Tom Brady's just hoping that nobody calls him out on it and Floria's not one to keep his mouth shut about that. Yeah. I also like Brian Branch got a double penalty. Oh, because he flipped the crowd off.
Starting point is 01:50:33 He was flipping off the crowd on the way out and got another penalty. Yeah. Which is great. But yeah, the Lions are, they're the best team in the NFL. No, I'll say it. The Chiefs are undefeated, but the Lions is the best team in the NFL right now. Yeah, I agree. Like, the Chiefs haven't been winning like the Lions have been winning. Do I think that if the Chiefs played the Lions in the Super Bowl, would I take the Lions? No, because
Starting point is 01:50:55 it's Patrick Holmes and he would just figure out a way to do it. But if they were playing next week, you would? If they were playing next week, I would take the Lions. Yeah. I think the Lions are definitely, without a doubt, week I would take the Lions yeah so I think the Lions are definitely without a doubt the best team in the NFC and I think you could make a great case that the best team in football yeah okay last two games Max Eagles 28 Jaguars 23 you guys almost blew this game yep also you had two of the coolest plays ever. Saquon hurtling a guy backwards and then Devontae Smith's touchdown in the end zone, which was
Starting point is 01:51:30 incredible. Yeah, those are both very high moments. They're very good football team, questionable coaching decisions. Yeah. Tell us about them. Tell us about them. What were the most questionable. The two point both of the two point conversions. I'm actually fine with. Well you got a penalty on one of them. We got a penalty on both of
Starting point is 01:51:53 them. Yeah. They were both at the one which you just do that. Like you get them all at the one especially the tush push didn't look good today. We have a lot. We have a lot of linemen that are hurt. It does feel like Sirianni fell in love with the idea that he discovered where if you have like a timeout in your pocket during the first half and you line up to go for two, just try to get them to commit a penalty. And if they don't then call a timeout and kick the extra point. If they do commit a penalty, then guess what? You get to run the two point conversion from the one yard line.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Yeah, no, he does love to do that Whatever he also I feel like you guys need a new two-point play Yeah, like a variation off the touch push Well, he tried to do that. Yeah, and it didn't work. Yeah, that's true The field goal at the end the field goal at the end made zero sense. There were three options. It was fourth and two up five with I think it was just over the two minute. Yeah. There's three options. Go for it on fourth and two win the game. Kick a punt. Make Trevor Lawrence go the entire distance of the field, still up one score,
Starting point is 01:53:09 or kick a 57 yard field goal to make a one score game a one score game. And give him a short field if you don't get it. It's the same probability that he kicks that field goal that he does of picking up the fourth and two but the fourth and two wins the game and the field goal makes a one score game one score game right. It makes it make no sense. Yeah. That decision made zero sense. He yeah. The only really decision there is no. You just go for it there. Yeah. I mean you could punt it but I just go for it and the game but the punt is Feel goal shouldn't even be an off. You know should not be an option
Starting point is 01:53:49 Correct the decision should be go for it or punt it. Yeah, the field goal makes zero sense Yes agreed, but he won the game and You got to give him credit. The team has looked a lot better at coming off the bye Yep, so he's got the guys in a position to win, but his in game decision making is every single week. It's just the same discussion of like he makes the wrong decision every single time. There just needs to be someone big Dom needs to be in his fucking ear after every fourth down and be like, are you sure that's what you want to do here? Nick? You sure this is what you want to do here Nick? Do you know what he needs? I've
Starting point is 01:54:27 Said that I need to create this software where when I put in my bets It just reverses it for me without telling me And I never can figure it out But I just like somehow just win all my bets because I'm just reversing it He needs to say something into the headset and have it just automatically be reversed Yeah Yeah, that'd be, that would be great. Yeah. So where he thinks he's in control connect directly to big Dom. Right. And then he makes his final call and then big Dom changes it. It's or it's just a train, like some software that just translates it. So it's his voice comes in with saying the exact opposite thing. Yeah. Yeah. The players on the Eagles were
Starting point is 01:55:03 fantastic today. Yeah. They were fan. on the Eagles were fantastic today. Yeah. They were fans. Your first. So your first half was incredible. Is AJ Brown okay? To be determined. That's very important to be determined. That's very important. Also the scoop and score is one of the one of the craziest things I've ever seen on a football field. You mean when when Saquon just fell and He got tackled and was down for five seconds. And they did a scoop and score. So they reviewed it and still gave them the touchdown. Saquon gets tackled.
Starting point is 01:55:34 He falls on the ground. The ground forces the ball out. The refs rule in real time that he has not been touched down. The Jaguars picked the ball up, returned for a touchdown. Then they look at it like five times it felt like the longest review ever yeah and then they just ignored the fact that seq ones foot got hit out from under him
Starting point is 01:55:53 which made him stumble forward into his lineman fall down and they didn't I max if if they had fucked you guys over new lost that game you you should have gone to drastic measures to protest that. Philadelphia should have. I wanted you to lose that game so bad to take heat off me. It would have been great. It made no sense. We were watching it in the cave with no sound and they kept showing the play and we were like, oh, okay. Oh, okay. That's fine. That's just going to... They didn't understand. They're just going to...
Starting point is 01:56:24 And then the Jags just started kicking the extra point. And then I just started freaking out because they couldn't hear what was going on. So I was like, why are they kicking the extra point? You were why are they kicking the extra point? Did they do a pool report about it? Did the refs talk about the, uh, the call because they have to answer for that, right? Yeah. So they ever answer to it, Max? I think that they said because he hit the lineman but that happens all the time. Yeah that was weird. It was very weird. They just made up a rule in the middle of I think they just fucked up and they were
Starting point is 01:56:54 like yeah well here's something like that's what I think they did. They're like here's something. But whatever they won the game. Max I was rooting for the Jaguars to win that game because I just wanted to see you go absolute nuclear I wanted to see you at your maddest because that calls So mad Stephen Che was hanging me on which One of the one of the worst feelings in the world. Yeah, so how we so like state of the Union for the Eagles there five and two six and two five six six and two
Starting point is 01:57:31 Cowboys and commanders coming up. I'll ask you this if you go to know are you are you thinking like this is We're the second best team in the NFC I'm thinking if we go to know these next if we go to know I'm thinking There's no reason we don't we can't beat the Lions. Yeah, I love that. What if you go on to Then we're big trouble sir. I only gone Yeah, I mean no I I don't want to I was if they lost that game Syria the city of Philadelphia would have Gone nuclear on Sirianni and I would have probably done
Starting point is 01:58:06 the same. He has got them playing much better football right now. The decision making has to be better. The in game decision making has to be better. Yeah I think that's fair. That's a fair thing to say. They're playing really hard though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:20 The first half. I think the Jaguars had one first down in the first half. Yeah the defense was humming. And then, I mean still, even if you take away that, the defense didn't give up a lot of points and even on that last drive, they were working on a short field and then N'Kobe Dean makes a huge play to win the game. So the defense made big plays when they needed to make big plays. The secondary has been awesome, which I haven't been able to say about the Eagles for a really
Starting point is 01:58:48 long time. Yeah. Yeah. The, um, your guy from Toledo is off. Quinian Mitchell is so good. So he got, he, it's turning into, he's a rookie and just, he gets no targets. He had one, I think he had one target today, the entire game. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:59:18 Jalen Hurts. It's full, he's been awesome, right? He's been awesome. Yeah. Since the buy I think he has like a hundred and thirty quarterback rating 12 touchdowns zero intercept follow-up row back question Rhob a CK comm use promo code take 20% off first purchase Do you think you wasted the Kelly green jerseys on the Jaguars?
Starting point is 01:59:37 Cuz I did yeah, I said that before the okay. All right, so that was a joke Yeah, like you those those jerseys are incredible. Yeah, why wear them against the Jaguars? I don't know but counterpoint That screenshot of Saquon lives forever and it's so much Good point and Devontae Smith's catch. Yeah, I didn't even know that it was possible to back hurdle a guy It's some it's so dangerous that he should not do that again No, But if anyone
Starting point is 02:00:06 lined him up perfectly, he just gets rocked. It's like jumping over a car. It was crazy. He just found himself, he didn't even think about it. He just found his feet in that position because I guess I'm jumping. And to go backwards over another dude, I've never seen that before. And the craziest part is the spin move before that was incredible No, it's gonna be the least talked about spin move of your time. Yeah, so sick. So sick. Yeah, it was Just an incredible highlight He's so good. He's like I Think it's it's fair to say that he's on the McCaffrey level of like he's a running back to that can actually make a difference
Starting point is 02:00:45 Of in your offense as long as he doesn't drop or get past like the Falcons game Correct, but yes other than that, you know, I agree say Kwan is yeah He's you you have to be ready for him. He like he he is in that it's McCaffrey It's Bijan Derrick Henry Derrick Henry Derrick Henry's Bijan. Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry is different though, because Derrick Henry will just run over people and run past people. I'm saying McCaffrey, Saquon, Bijan.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Those three guys, if they are in space, you're fucked. I think if they're one on one in space. Gibbs might be like that too. Gibbs as well. Yes. Yeah. Those guys are so special that when you just get them in space You're the defense can't do anything. You can't tackle them one-on-one
Starting point is 02:01:30 Yeah, he's uh, he's been incredible this year. He's got how many yards this sake one have this year. I think 960 holy shit, so he's also nine twenty five and he already had his bye Same as Derek Henry 2K watch. Who did you guys play last week of the season? The Giants? That would be awesome. Because I think it's Cowboys commanders last week, I think. So that would make it.
Starting point is 02:01:57 That would be awesome if Saquon Gah. Yeah, so it's Giants at Philly. If Saquon gets 2,000 yards against the Giants, that would be special. You just gotta stay healthy. Pray for health. Pray for health. Yeah. Okay, good for you Max.
Starting point is 02:02:14 I'm happy you won. No you're not. No I'm not. No I'm not. I'm not. It would have been great because it would have just been... You would have been a really good friend move. Yep. For you to take been a really good friend move. Yep.
Starting point is 02:02:25 For you to take some heat off me. Sorry. Because like PFT's team is awesome, your team is awesome, even Meme's won and then the one other guy who lost here just doesn't even give a fuck. That's not true. Well he lost Marvin Harrison though. Yeah he did. He lost Marvin Harrison.
Starting point is 02:02:43 I was more locked into my game than probably anyone was on anyone's game today. You were locked into the football game. To the game? You were locked into the player. Yeah. Yeah the Marvin Harrison thing. I'm sorry Hank. It's alright. That was tough. Alright Rams 26 Seahawks 20 to wrap it up. This one team had Geno Smith and one team had Matthew Stafford. Yeah Geno Smith with a couple bad picks. He threw a great, he had a great drive to end the game, to tie it up. Yeah. What is it with the Seahawks? And I don't know if this is, because this is one thing that, you know, we obviously are watching all the games, but every single week without
Starting point is 02:03:21 fail, you look up and the Seahawks entire team is chasing after a snap that's gone over Gina Smith's head or through his hands. What is that? The rain. Every week though. Yeah it's weird. It's definitely strange. It happened twice this week I want to say. This is a big win for the Rams. Huge. Pukin' Nakua getting ejected in the first half. For nothing. We talked about like Pukin' Nakua is the funnest guy to watch without the ball in his hand sometimes.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Yeah, sometimes he like throws a little baby punch and the refs were staring too closely at him. He was not the instigator in that. He got shoved and then he did like, I don't think it was a punch. I think it was one of those open-handed face shoves. Crazy ejection. Which is, yeah, that's,
Starting point is 02:04:01 if you're gonna tell your player to hit somebody in the face, you want them to do the open-handed one and not the fist? Yeah smarter go open hand I guess the one good thing is like he couldn't get banged up. Yep. Yeah, he was safe They put him in preserve it for this game. Yeah Yeah, Gino Gino had some bad picks today and Matthew Stafford's overtime was just his perfect football Yeah, he was he played perfect football in the overtime and the Rams like they looked deader than dead at halftime. What? Well, the Seahawks could have kicked a field goal in overtime to take a lead and went for it on fourth down. But it wouldn't have mattered. I don't have that much of a problem with that because if you kick a field
Starting point is 02:04:37 goal, it wouldn't matter because they scored a touchdown, but still. But they would have lost no matter what. Yeah, I just think it was I didn't like that move. I have no problem with that move. I guess you could make the argument that the Seahawks offensive line has not been great. So it's like maybe getting one yard is not the easiest. But yeah, I mean, you can end the game with a touchdown, right? And it was what fourth and two? It's fourth and one fourth and one. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a problem with them going for it. It was like, you know, 50-50 coin flip Do you kick a field goal? I could see a lot of coaches kicking that field goal, but I just don't think you want to mind it
Starting point is 02:05:12 Go for it. Yeah, no, I you don't want to give the ball to Matthew Stafford. He's gonna go score a touchdown Trust your defense. Yeah, but it's Matthew Stafford. He's really fucking good I I would like to try to end the game without giving the ball back to Matthew Stafford. And that was the way you could do it. Otherwise, you're just hoping he doesn't score a touchdown, which he then did no matter what. Personally. Also, your defense isn't particularly great. Jackson Smith and the Jigba was awesome. He was. Yeah. Would he have like 150? He made just every big catch and then and what Cooper had 11 catches. But yeah the Rams I am worried about my pinky the Rams Matthew Stafford gives you a chance in any game. Yeah they they unlocked the Marcus
Starting point is 02:05:51 Robinson. Yep. The Rams do next man up at wide receiver better than anybody. It's a combo of coaching and Matthew Stafford. Yeah. Where it's just like I those guys if you put those guys on any other team I don't think they'd be nearly as good but because they're schemed open by Sean McVeigh and Matthew Stafford's throwing him the ball they played to the best of their abilities. Yeah. But yeah, the Rams are now very much I mean it was it was two weeks ago that they were basically deader than dead.
Starting point is 02:06:21 And they beat the Vikings, they beat the Seahawks and now they're four and four in second place in the NFC West That's pretty crazy. Yeah, let's see. What's the RAM schedule coming up? They play the Dolphins the Patriots So that's gonna be Probably six and four. I'm gonna be nervous about this. Oh my god, they have They have the Saints still they do have a tough end of the season. They play, at the end of the season, they play the Bills, 49ers, Jets, Cardinals, Seahawks. That could be tough. All potential playoff teams.
Starting point is 02:06:56 All potential playoff teams, right, Memes? Correct. Memes, today, without your team playing, because they played on Thursday, did you think that you got, like like did you win today? No. Oh we didn't because the Chargers Chargers Chargers Charger yeah, but what about the Colts and the Broncos Colts and Broncos both lost? Yeah, that was a win That's big. That was big. Yeah, those you can't think about the Chargers. You got to think about You got you like you had three teams that you're
Starting point is 02:07:25 or the Bengals I guess one too so that's bad but I have looked into it okay the Broncos have a gauntlet the Steelers also have a gauntlet Steelers have the hardest thing Steelers yeah don't think about the Steelers keep saying Steelers back here the Steelers are six and well all the all the end all the AFC North teams have to play each other still right and that's gonna that's gonna eliminate That's gonna get some losses there right two of them. I mean we're not you're not you're not gonna catch I don't think you're gonna catch the Steelers What they could just fall off a cliff yeah, but you would have to climb an even bigger cliff
Starting point is 02:08:05 We might never lose a game again. Okay. All right. Yeah, all right I like it may the Cardinals next week the Cardinals are hot They could they could look ahead past us they could look ahead past 26 jets team that's just one four out of five That's the beauty of playing possum memes. They think that you're dead. I'm looking at it right now. Memes might not be wrong. Because if the Bills in week 17 have it all the way wrapped up, they might already be sitting starter. Oh man.
Starting point is 02:08:38 I mean all the playoff probabilities on this website is a joke. The Vikings did win. It felt like they were sleepwalking the start of the game. But their defense looked back, because they held the Colts. The Colts did not get into the end zone on offense. Right. They had that fumble in the first quarter, right?
Starting point is 02:09:00 Yeah. And then after that, not a lot. I'll be honest. I didn't watch most of this game, because we were podcasting while it was going on after halftime I also up and up until halftime. I was thoroughly unimpressed with both teams. Yes, but I'll say this Sam Darnold started bad I think he played very well in the second half and these numbers ended up looking pretty good and he was finding Justin Jefferson and
Starting point is 02:09:23 The Sam Darnold might be a pumpkin we we can put that off for a week well every time I looked up Justin Jefferson was making a catchdown field that's a good strategy if you feel like you're if you're turning into a pumpkin just remember oh yeah I've got maybe the best receiver yeah you know 137 yards yeah yeah okay should we wrap up with who's back of the week? I think we got a couple stories we got to talk about with Max too. Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. No matter what happens between your favorite rivals this week, you've got a chance to win. Just go to the PMT Instagram. Tell us how you're preview, how you prepare
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Starting point is 02:10:50 Yeah, so this is a problem. So there was a TikToker in New York who found an injured squirrel. Peanut. Named him Peanut, he took him in, he brought him back to full health. It's a adorable name. And then, you know, by that.
Starting point is 02:11:04 Great squirrel. At that point it had been domesticated, so if you let him back to full health. It's adorable name and then you know by that great squirrel that point had been domesticated So if you let him back on the wild that was gonna die So he just kept him in his apartment posted videos and stuff some hater Reported the accounts to the authorities and the authorities showed up to his house unannounced like with a warrant and stuff, took the squirrel, took a bunch of documents and then euthanized peanut the squirrel. How memes has his hand up and Fred the raccoon and Fred the raccoon. Don't forget about Fred the raccoon. I was saying earlier that that raccoons have a terrible, terrible PR team
Starting point is 02:11:39 because they're like the cutest animal ever and everyone treats them like they are actual garbage. Well, it's rabies. Yeah, it's rabies. Rabies is what kills the cuteness of raccoons. But they're so cute. I agree. But that's the bad PR getting into your head that the first thing you think of
Starting point is 02:11:55 when you think of raccoons is rabies, when you should be just thinking, oh, they're adorable little animals. I think of Rocky. Yeah. I think of that old guy YouTube YouTube video in the snow. Just feeding the raccoons. Yeah. They're your best friends. Hank, what? How? How can you go into someone's house and kill their animals? They confiscated the animal and they just said,
Starting point is 02:12:21 we're going to kill this animal. They confiscated it and then in order to I guess to check if it had rabies they had to euthanize it so that That is true. It's the most backwards part about checking to see is that like the Salem witch trial Yeah, we got to throw them in the water And if they come up yeah, which like being accused of having rabies as an animal is more deadly than having rabies Yeah, it's a hundred death rate. All right. So here's why I asked how is because I saw this story and I was like, this doesn't, there's gotta be something I'm missing because otherwise this is the biggest tragic tragedy travesty of all time. I think it's just a Karen hater. Like the guy, so this woman is the worst. Like the guy has a TikTok account and post the
Starting point is 02:13:05 video. So someone with a stick up their ass is like, this can't be allowed. Like, oh my God, this is the worst person ever. Yeah. Is his neighbor, do they also have a TikTok account? It might not be a neighbor. It might just be a, like a follower that, you know, it could be any, oh, it could be somebody online that saw the video, and they're like I'm going to They swatted a squirrel pretty much that's fucked up. Yeah, that's so fucked up, so I hate this woman woman I Think I saw a picture somebody like they doxed her. I didn't see that part. I saw that it was Anonymous reporter all right, so whoever this person is Anonymous reporter. All right, so whoever this person is
Starting point is 02:13:50 You should you should get rabies. Somebody should call the the Department of Animal Services on you. Yeah That this is crazy. So justice for peanut and I feel bad and Fred and Fred. I forgot about Fred Damn and it were who were the who who is the guy? Mr. Longo. And it was, did he have kids or anything? Could they make the argument that the squirrel was endangering the kids? I just can't understand this. Officers raided my house as if I was a drug dealer. I was sat outside my house for five hours.
Starting point is 02:14:21 I had to get a police escort to my bathroom. I wasn't even allowed to feed my rescue horses breakfast or lunch. I was sat there like a criminal after they interrogated my wife to check out her immigration status. Jesus Christ. This is horrendous. Justice for Peanut. If we have to make a shirt and profit off it to get the word out there, we will. They got a search warrant for departments and a judge signed off on a search warrant for a squirrel and a raccoon and they took them and killed them.
Starting point is 02:14:52 I don't want to say that we've got bigger problems as a nation, but if you are spending your time writing up a search warrant for a squirrel, you should be called a pussy by that judge. Yeah. All right. So we got to, we got to, we got to get on this case. You should be called a pussy by that judge. Yeah. All right. So we got to get on this case. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:15:08 I mean, we're late to it, but we got to do everything we can. And by everything we can, I mean, I'm just going to tweet out justice for Peanut. Yeah, like. It won't bring Peanut back. Big Cat. What? Plot twist. Oh.
Starting point is 02:15:22 Peanut was a Yankees fan. Oh! There's a picture I'm looking at right now of Peanut wearing a Yankees cap. Do you think there's a chance that Peanut has to be killed? You know, it was like, take me out. I can't watch this bum Aaron Judge strike out at the plate anymore. It's a fucking end it right now. Let me call the feds.
Starting point is 02:15:40 Yeah, I'll call the feds on myself. I want to memes myself. Yeah. There's this adorable little squirrel who is waiting by the feds on myself. I want to I want to memes myself. Yeah, there's this adorable little squirrel He's waiting by the front door for you. Go pick him up When was peanut killed before after the Yankees lost? I did not have to watch that fifth inning I think it was on Thursday night. Oh my god peanut. That's the last Yankees game Let me see I'm looking this up right now. Oh My god game. Let me see. Oh my god. This is now the ultimate
Starting point is 02:16:06 trash. That is animal cruelty. If you have a pet and you force it to be Yankees fan. Yeah. Damn. I guess we have to wait for all the facts. Oh, it was on Wednesday. So it was before. So Peanut didn't see the fifth inning. He did not see. Oh, thank God. So Peanut actually died not knowing who won the World Series. Yes Okay, and didn't know the deck got her the last memory that that peanut had was The the capo Bianco brothers, which I'm sure peanut was a big fan of yeah. Yeah, okay Damn, that's depressing. Okay, who's your anything else? I Like your pants. Thanks, they're velour.
Starting point is 02:16:47 Yeah, I know, I was gonna say it, they're velour. Did you buy them? Why'd you say that in a way that... I'm missing something. I don't think you are missing anything. I was wondering if you bought them or if they were stolen velour. They came off the back of a truck. I've had these for a long time.
Starting point is 02:17:03 PFT, your who's back of the week. My who's's back the week is college basketball. Yeah college hoops tonight big slate tonight Yeah, we got I think almost every ranked team is playing right a lot of them are a lot of them are The the big ones gonna be Baylor Gonzaga Late night, but yes college basketball is back big-time Maine and Duke, the Cooper flag game. Wow. It's gonna be bad blood out there. It just it's good to have different sports on. Oh, I love I mean, college basketball. The college basketball feast week is one of my favorite weeks of the year. And I lose everything. But I love it. I love it. All right. My
Starting point is 02:17:40 Who's back of the week is Philadelphia sports figures getting into fights with various people. So we had two and I actually think as a podcast, we, we, I think we take the side of both the Philadelphia sports figures. I think one's definitely cut and dry. The Kelsey one. So if people missed it, there was a, I think was he at the Penn State game?
Starting point is 02:18:03 Penn State game. Correct. Yeah. He was just what why doesn't Jason? I guess he doesn't need security but also like he why was he walking with like beers in his hand like I Get he's just a man of the people alright So the thought occurred to me after I'd say like six hours of just heavy discourse online about Jason Kelsey We had some people saying like most people I'd say 95% people were like Jason Kelsey did nothing wrong We had some people saying like most people I'd say 95% people were like Jason Kelsey did nothing wrong Yes, so let the man so to set the scene there were use walking and there was a Penn State fan or a kid
Starting point is 02:18:38 Walking with his phone out being a piece of shit and he was like your brother is a f-bomb for dating Taylor Swift and Jason Kelsey turned around grabbed his phone smashed it through the crust of the earth awesome spike and then there was another clip after that he walked off with the phone and the kid was like give me my phone back give my phone back and Jason Kelly Kelsey said who's the f-word now which again I have no like that guy brought the f-word into it. Yeah, fair play. He wasn't saying it's Roger, he was just saying like, you just, you brought this into this,
Starting point is 02:19:10 why would you be such a loser to like make fun of my brother and stick a phone in my face? So I stand with Jason Kelsey. Yeah, I think he was in the right, the guy had the phone and he was like screaming at him and very clearly harassing him and foaming around. So what was the thought that occurred to you? The thought that occurred to me was, was there any chance that was a viral ad for Garage Beer
Starting point is 02:19:30 that just got way out of hand? Oh, maybe. The Garage Beer was prominently featured in every angle of every video that I saw. Interesting. And maybe it got out of hand and somebody posted it and then it was like, oh shit. Oh.
Starting point is 02:19:43 We've really lost the narrative on this one. Oh. Because he was holding the case and I mean this is I tweeted this out but the first thing I noticed was him holding the case of beer with like his pinky finger and then also holding a beer in that same hand which is not a guy that you want to fuck with the guy that just walking around casually drinking out of his 12 ounce can while also raising the entire case up to his mouth. Yeah, that's probably a guy that can kick a lot of ass. But yeah, the beer was prominently displayed in all angles. I don't think it was fake, but I'm
Starting point is 02:20:15 very woke when it comes to stuff like that where it's like, we've seen a lot of stuff online. It was, yeah, I mean I I was just confused why Jason Kelsey was Walking by himself in that situation like not again. I get he's a man of the people do what Hank? Think it's that crazy. We walk through I guess so crowds. Yeah tailgates. Maybe he has security. He doesn't need security This kid was a piece of shit. There's no other way to put it. Mm-hmm It was a piece of shit. Jason Kelsey was in the right. Also, Jason Kelsey is just like not someone you want to fuck with. In general.
Starting point is 02:20:51 I think he's just a pretty normal dude. Yeah. Who just wants to be left alone. And drink beer. Yeah. So respect to him. I did see people being like, do you not know what the First Amendment is? The First Amendment, like Jason Kelsey, it doesn't protect you from Jason Kelsey smashing your phone yeah and you deserve where
Starting point is 02:21:06 you're spacious yeah so max you're good with all this yeah of course the the other funniest part is that the guy like tried to fake step to him for maybe a half of a second yeah I was like this is a really bad idea this this is like one of like the worst people on the planet that like you should be trying correct start anything with correct I think Jason Kelsey should be commended for not beating the fuck out of this guy. Yes. Yes for sure So you imagine like he's literally just in his face saying that about his brother for the worst reasoning of all time By the way right that his brother dates One of like the most beautiful supermodel or pop stars in the world
Starting point is 02:21:46 She's one of the most beautiful pop stars in the world. She's one of the most popular pop stars in the world. Okay. She is. We don't want to make comments about her looks. I don't want to talk about her looks. I don't see looks. Okay. I don't see sight.
Starting point is 02:22:00 I don't see looks. I don't see- You see gross revenue ticket sales. Yeah. We don't see sight. I don't see looks. I don't see see gross revenue ticket sale. Yeah, she's I'm not I don't I don't I Don't boil down Taylor Swift to looks like you also max by saying she's one of the most beautiful Pop stars in the world that's gonna have Taylor Swift fans matter you one for commenting on her looks two for not saying the most beautiful Yeah, where's me a guy like me? I don't see looks all right Disavow my comment. Okay. I admire. I admire her brains. Yep. Me too. And then the other one
Starting point is 02:22:32 was Joan B. Shoved a reporter. Now this one you could make an argument against Joel and bead, but I am not because I am on Joel and bead side. This reporter Marcus Hayes wrote an article basically calling Joel and bead. So so this is what he said, Joel Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son Arthur as a major inflection point in his basketball career. He often says that he wants to be great to leave a legacy for the boy named after his little brother who tragically died in an automobile accident when Embiid was in his first year as a 76er. Well in order to be great at your job you first have to show up for work and then goes on to talk about how he hasn't played and all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:23:08 This guy's a piece of shit because you can write an article about Joel Embiid not playing, load management, being injured, and never bring up his son or his dead brother. Yeah, you can. So the second part of that saying in order to be great at your job, you have to show up for work. You can just take all the context of the family out of it. Correct. Joel Embiid wants to be great at basketball. To be great, you have to show up for it. You can do that and do the hot take column where you're like, Joel Embiid is soft for
Starting point is 02:23:38 not playing more, he's disappointing to city. You can say all that stuff, but then to just tie it into your family. And I haven't seen the video of Joel. Is there a video of Joel? How is there not video? There's definitely video. What's his name? What's his name?
Starting point is 02:23:52 Tick tocks. Huh? What's his name? Stick tocks. Oh, Jeremy. Jeremy Kane was definitely doing a tick tock. He was probably dancing with Joel and be shoving someone in the background. No, I find it very hard to believe that there's no video, but I think that was probably dancing with Joe and be shoving someone in the background. No I find it very hard to believe that there's no video but I think that everyone is on everyone
Starting point is 02:24:11 outside of Marcus Hayes is on Joel and beads side of this in the locker room. So I I'm pretty confident that everyone just was like hey let's not release. Yeah. Because this guy deserves it. The argument against Joe and beat here is like you just shouldn't shove a reporter But again, I I'm not gonna make that argument because this guy's a piece of shit Yeah, and I don't have to bring up Joel and beads family also fuck Keith Pompei for initially saying that he punched is a punch Yeah, a shove in a punch. Well, that's what makes me really different That's what makes me think it was like maybe closer to a punch than it was That's why I want to say no
Starting point is 02:24:44 But there's a lot of people that were also in there that says that it was like barely a show Well, they could just put the video out and put this case to rest no I Don't I don't have the video we need the video yeah DM Jeremy King, but once you agree that them not putting the video out leads to the conclusion that it was worse likely worse than Than just a shove the conclusion that it was probably more likely worse than just a shove. No, I think it was a light shove. Now, I will say that Marcus Hayes could get me back on his side if he shows up to the next press conference with a neck brace on.
Starting point is 02:25:16 That would be funny. Mm-hmm. That would be funny. I just know that when Hank says, wouldn't you say, it's about to be a fucking banger after that. That's when Hank's deep in his bag of tool shit. Yeah, wouldn't you say? Wouldn't you agree that? Wouldn't you say it's about to be a fucking banger after that? Yeah, thanks deep in his Yeah, what did you say? Wouldn't you agree that wouldn't you say? We need to see the video and we are on Joel and beat side
Starting point is 02:25:31 Yeah I think if he if he like shoved him and it wasn't anything particularly violent like there was no chance of him getting injured if it Was just like a shove like fuck you buddy. If it was one of those that's well within his rights It was a big weekend for Philly sports stars Following up like talk shit get hit. Yeah. Yeah and those are like our two guys. Yeah and like I have no problem with either because these guys are talking massive amounts of shit for no reason just being shitty people. And Joel Embiids backing up everything he's done for the city he deserves a break.
Starting point is 02:26:02 Max? Yeah I agree. Everything? Agree yes. And what exactly has he done for the city he deserves a break max yeah I agree everything agree yes what exactly has he done for the city he puts his body on the line play well not if you don't know can the playoff it's the o'cachin Denver in the playoffs he does the whole yolk is in Denver Joel would be fucking each joke it's for lunch not in Denver not in dead the way the fact that people like nitpick that just because it's not on the road ductum like third numbers it like MB Dominates not in Denver Yeah, that's what the people all the fucking MB haters which and which there are plentiful
Starting point is 02:26:39 Love the nitpick every little thing and find one re whatever. So what does he do? Answer what is what is Jokic done done in Philly. How about that. How about that question. What. No the question. The question. No the question was what is it be done for Philly. It's probably won a couple of games. Probably gone out to eat. He's made he's made the throw on the road. He made the foot of his 76 years a rel a relevant basketball program. What'd you say, irrelevant? A relevant basketball program that when he joined... Program? Yes.
Starting point is 02:27:11 I always say program. You always get on me for this. I say every team's a program. The 76ers, a relevant basketball program. A relevant basketball program when they came from the bottom of the league you by choice by choice right by choice would love to be by choice yes they did the process I don't give fuck every team does a process process since 2013 anything I've made like the second round of the playoffs it doesn't matter but
Starting point is 02:27:40 but they're still like in the in the top after league every year where's relevancy they've made the second round yeah so what's yes same spot what's what's relevant relevancy the second round I mean they were they went seven games with the cell with the Celtics that's right yes I mean it's still like you're still contending they're not like for what contenders and Joe and be gets hurt every fucking year fuck you guys I'm don't actually had a three-two lead in that series so It's a cop six at home. I Just want to know where relevancy is is it?
Starting point is 02:28:12 It's definitely not the fucking balls. I know it's not I never claimed they were I would say that we probably talked about the Sixers The second most of all right. I'm not even trolling. I'm just generally curious. Shut the fuck up You're you're not trolling you pussy Of course, you're trolling Only thing you fucking do on that couch When he says I've done so much for the city you think Philly fans are thinking. Yeah, you know what Joel you have property taxes He probably just saying he is done so much because he gets hurt every fucking year on the play in the
Starting point is 02:28:46 Playoffs and he plays hurt every fucking year, and I'm sure it's not good on his body long term. That's what he's saying Got it. He's a maize a a Unicorn of a human that should not be playing as much basketball as he is and he does it I mean he's probably not gonna be able to walk in 20 years because of it So that's what he does for this city, But he doesn't have to play that much basketball because he's only... Yeah, well now he's not doing it so that he can play in the playoffs and be healthy. Right, but he doesn't have to play that much in the playoffs either. Well, you guys don't make the playoffs. Right. We do make... What do you mean we don't make
Starting point is 02:29:15 the playoffs? What was the last time we didn't make the playoffs, Hank? Tell me the last time we didn't make the playoffs. Well, I didn't... I said what if. He said what if. I can also barely hear what you're saying because I took my headphones off. Yeah, you took off your headphones. He said what if you don't make the playoffs? didn't ask I said what if I can also barely hear what you're saying you said what if you don't make the playoffs they're gonna make the playoffs what's the record Paul George's plans if the game if the PFT you look it up if the playoffs started today would they make the playoffs okay I'm looking up right now they're one in four so they wouldn't me oh oh one in four what are we gonna do five games into the season. Well, it's
Starting point is 02:29:46 going to be one in five. She's going to lose the sons tonight. Paul George is playing. Well, it's interesting as they are in second to last in the East. Oh, the Wizards would make the playoffs if they start tomorrow. Congrats. Hang a banner. Oh wow. Five games into the season. The Washington. The balls would be the fifth seed. Wow. Congrats. Pretty crazy. Any more questions. I just was wondering like he puts his body on the line but he doesn't have to play that many playoff. They also get to pay like a gazillion dollars. He doesn't have to play that many playoff. He's really at max. He has to play 14 playoff games Right We're done with this
Starting point is 02:30:28 He does you am I right you said your piece my right his body on the line He put his body on the line for the MVP and then he just stopped like playing after that. That's not incorrect It's like Joel Embiid and cops both put their lives on the line for the city of Philadelphia Thank you. He also doesn't put his body on the line for the city of Philadelphia. And he also doesn't put his body on the line in Denver. USA though, that was cool. It was nice that his body was available to be on the line in the summer. Yeah, it was nice for Jason Tain to send that out. He actually could have, it would have been more apt for him to say, I've done so much
Starting point is 02:30:58 for this country. Yeah, because he's won something for this country. He's done, yeah, he's done just as much for me as he has for you max More yeah, it's true All right good show boys But again, we stand by Joel We 100% Want that to be very clear yes, I and Kelsey We stand by both those guys. Also the guy that, maybe I'm being too woke about this. You know the guy that was talking shit to Kelsey.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Hoodie, sunglasses, cap pulled real low. I'm just saying, what if it was a big viral ad? I feel like that would be the most ambitious, ambitious, ambitious ad to be like just drop the F slur. Yeah. But it worked. But also, it would have been a great ad. It would have worked.
Starting point is 02:31:49 Yeah, it worked. It was the talk of, also, it could have also been a plant by James Franklin. To be like, hey, can you get this video viral so no one can talk about me not beating Ohio State for the millionth year in a row? I think that was before the game. Yeah, but he knew. But he knew. Yeah, he did know. We are. What was that? That's Penn State fans. 4 11 Oh jeez! Hank just took Shane's number Did Hank say 21?
Starting point is 02:32:29 Yeah, he took 21 So it's crocheted It's Embiid's number, that's- I wasn't- He took a 21 for a year, man You don't own a number 15 Oh Pug?
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