Pardon My Take - NFL Week 9, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Dogs Were Barking & Football Guy Of The Week

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

NFL Week 9 and we start with the Fastest 2 minutes. The dogs were barking hard on Sunday as we recap every game.  ( 00:02:34 - 00:09:00) Rams / Titans (00:09:00 - 00:13:46) Broncos/Cowboys (00:13:46 - 00:24:18) Jaguars/Bills (00:24:18 - 00:35:41) Browns/Bengals (00:35:41 - 00:42:38) Ravens/Vikings (00:42:38 - 00:50:56) Giants/Raiders (00:50:56 - 00:58:12) Falcons/Saints (00:58:12 - 01:07:31) Patriots/Panthers (01:07:31 - 01:18:55) Dolphins/Texans (01:18:55 - 01:23:00) Chargers/Eagles (01:23:00 - 01:28:41) Cardinals/49ers (01:28:41 - 01:34:24) Chiefs/Packers (01:34:24 - 01:42:16) Football guy of the week and who's back of the week.  (01:42:16 - 02:05:51)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have week nine. Sunday, bloody Sunday, all of the dogs won, the dogs were barking. A lot of things to discuss, a lot of teams we thought were good might not be good. A lot of teams that were bad might not be as bad as we thought. We're going to recap everything, we got fastest two minutes. We have a very contentious, that is Billy's words, not mine,

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And Kenne, what, how do you say his name? Kenne Wangu, okay. Kenne Wangu, okay. Kenne Wangu over the cuckoo's nest. And Kenne Wangu flew over the cuckoo's nest, had Ravens fans wanting to check themselves into a mental institute. Adnan Kirk Cousins won't be appearing on Sports Center anytime soon as Patrick Daniel Ricardo wore his party shirt in the end zone after the Ravens race back into the game.

Let us be the last to wish you a happy Halloween as Lamar, you afraid of the dark, had the Vikings defense tackling ghosts all day as Justin Tucker went kicker treating to win the game in overtime. Ravens 34, Vikings 31. In the battle of Ohio where Joe Burrow was ice cold, the Browns wide receiver's eyes were getting big as Donovan dilated People's Jones hauled in a score. The Bengals defense said, no, I don't want no chubs. Chubb is back that's going to run for two TDs as TLC Higgins and the Bengals had no

answer all afternoon. In other Browns news Beckham was released and in something that hasn't been good in years, one lucky team is saying, dude, we're getting Adele. Browns 41, the Bengals, the Cinnamon Sinati Bengals 16. In Jacksonville where Josh Allen sat Josh Allen to set the tone for Josh Allen picking off Josh Allen leading to Josh Allen forcing a fumble of Josh Allen giving Josh Allen an incredible victory over Josh Allen even though Josh Allen was a two touchdown underdog to Josh Allen.

Jaguars nine, Bill six. Huh? Huh? Huh? There's there's two of them? Josh Allen's? I'm seeing double and it's not the dude that does. In the big D where Dak is back but Cowboys fans are suddenly missing Cooper Rush Limbaugh.

In the battle of Sterling Bridgewater, Givante Williams Wallace stood nine feet tall and demanded Jerry Jones put his head between his legs and kiss his own arse. Tim Patrick Starr proved he doesn't live under a rock. I thought the Cowboys are supposed to be good SpongeBob. But it was Michael Vic Fangio who had his dogs ready for a fight pinning their ears back for a huge win. The Broncos starting the Cowboys 16. In Miami where two and on was a no show like JFK Jr as the Dolphins turned to Jacobi Bryant

Berset to give the Finns that Mamba mentality. On the other side of the ball, Ty Rodney Dangerfield gets no respect. Mack Hollanoats was a man-eater against press coverage. Watch out boy he'll chew you up and the Dolphins finally make Frank Fleming's dream come true with a win while he's in attendance. Dolphin 17, Texans 9. In the Meadowlands where Evan Lorre Angrum just shut up and caught the ball. Tax the rich Pisocia went to a MetLife gala and the public Joe judged him a loser.

As people forget Jason Garrett is AOC in this league, Teague. Devonte Corey Booker was sent it to win it in New Jersey as the big blue wave got a win. And that's your politics update from us. The G-men 23. Down to Philadelphia where just in the wind. All we are is just in the wind. Herbert and the Chargers went up against the Hungry Eagles team. Nick Siriusani was relying heavily on Jordan Howard Stern to boost his ratings.

But it was Devonte Mack Smith no matter what when Philly needed a late score. But the Eagles tied it only for a moment and the moment's gone. As dust in the wind. All we are is dust in the wind. Hopkins nailed the game winner with two seconds left. The San Diego Super Chargers 27. The Philadelphia Eagles 24. The Saints lose to the Falcons 26, 25, 27, 25.

We finish in Kansas City where Jordan live, laugh, love, play like his family wasn't watching as they were stuck in the very last row of Arrowhead. Andy Patrick Reed took Matt LaFleur's lunch money out of his locker on the way to his 500th win. Speaking of 500, we want to congratulate the five young gentlemen from part of my take on their 500th episode today. The Bajorca store called and they're running out of holders. As Corey failed to get the laces out not once but twice on Sunday. Aaron Rodgers and his best friend Joe Rogaine Blake Portals had to watch as Jordan Love tried

to figure this one out for the Packers. The Chiefs 13. The Packers 7. All right week nine brought to you by our friends across country mortgage cross country mortgage is much like us at Barstool a people first group of people they're dedicated to the fundamentals of mortgage lending which results in a fast convenient and less stressful home financing or refinancing experience rates are unbelievably low right now all time low they may never get this low again so call today for a fast free rate quote our partners will save you a

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sofi stadium into the Rams house and kicked the shit out of the Rams so Matt Stafford looked like just hot garbage in the first half real bad so Matt Stafford look bad but i'm giving all the credit to the Rams or the Titans i am because their defensive line were they were all over Stafford like i saw some people saying that the Rams stink but i think that was more the Titans are for real for real and we got to start taking them as such because no Derek Henry their defense steps up they can still play offense when they need to i'm putting the Rams the Titans as for real for real adrian peterson 10 carriers 21 yards they kept feed them and they got him a touchdown too and they ran wildcat with them they ran wildcat with adrian peterson he looks fast in

the number eight that's a good jersey number for him at this point he skipped dancing with the stars to be with this team he did and uh yeah the titans offense is just turns out they're just good they're just a fundamentally sound football team i like aj brown a lot hulio jones is still out there playing football although something happened with hulio jones something like in the last two years he just got old he got old fast yeah um but the titans offense is definitely they play bully ball well no they're yeah and their defense their defensive line was all over matt stafford like they couldn't when you watch a game like that and you just saw right away you're like they can't block i think there was the first drive when they were the Rams

started the game maybe two first downs and then boom sack sack you know like uh oh they're kind of fucked here jeffrey summons with three sacks i think all in the first maybe quarter of the game definitely on in the first half i i at this point if you had to do power rankings of the afc teams where the titans i have to be either from and we're going to get to all the games so obviously the bills losing but the titans also beat the bills they have to either be one or two with baltimore yeah i think so wouldn't you say as of right now like we're just saying right this second who is the the power rankings of teams that you think are coming out of the afc i think it's probably maybe still baltimore and then titans too but i would i could absolutely

be convinced especially with the the wins because look at the the titans have beaten the bills the chiefs the cults and the rams four straight games those are four teams that all should or at least all have playoff aspirations i would say three out of four of those teams will definitely be in the playoffs because baltimore the jets titans yes and then bills chargers chiefs this is the problem with week one i need to i actually don't think i want to watch week one next year because the titans losing the way they lost yeah you won't be yeah you actually won't be and i i might i might join you because the titans losing to the cardinals the way they lost to the cardinals in week one had me thinking up until this point that yeah the titans are good but they're still kind of suck

like they still can be had no no no this team's very good um what did we learn about the ramps tonight anything uh they can't really block um and when they can't block matt stafford goes back to alliance matt stafford i think another thing i learned tonight is that naked bootlegs always work yep i don't think i've ever seen a naked bootleg get stopped yep even paint mannings ran a new naked bootleg before you just have to not run it that often if you like circle two dates per year like these are my naked bootleg dates they're both going to work well taniel actually i feel like he does it like four or five times a year because he's fast yeah right um but i guess the other thing i'd learn from the rams is jail and ramsie like loves getting personal foul uh

penalties oh yeah they had to specify no the first personal foul that he had wasn't for taunting it was for just like a different type of unnecessary roughness i think it was really like clearly taunting taunting with your body instead of with your mouth the first part and then the second one was just the mouth version of it i also think maybe the rams are just one of those teams that like if you look at their uh the games they played this year they've just had two stinkers and maybe that's i don't know if that's a bigger deal but they just had two games where you were almost right away you're like oh they are going to lose today can i tell you something though about this sunday it was one of the most fun sundays that i've had watching football in a long time and it's because

i didn't have to watch the washington football team play it's so awesome not having to worry about about the washington football about your shitty team yeah it's amazing i felt like a weight was lifted off my oh yeah and all the dogs no safeties hitting dogs everywhere dogs everywhere it was crazy it was a great day crazy sunday squad yeah okay let's talk about the rest of sunday bloody sunday let's start with uh crazy crazy underdogs winning outright and we will start with the team that i think there's two teams that we both everyone thought were uh super bowl contenders that had inexplicable losses on sunday and we'll start with the cowboys the cowboys and the broncos broncos 30 cowboys 16 uh and it really wasn't that score because the cowboys uh if you watch the game

they had five first downs in 122 yards before garbage time started with like 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter so it was it was 30 to nothing and then the cowboys threw in a couple touchdowns at the end to make it look halfway respectable the broncos kicked the shit out of the cowboys and my question to you pft and everyone out there is just how much did the broncos team hate von miller and his halloween party because they played like a completely different team no they were they were sick of all the vin mo requests coming through it's crazy it's almost like having a loan shark on your defense that's just collecting interest he's charging points against his his own teammates every week uh maybe had a bad effect on the locker room i don't know

the broncos defense was awesome today though dak prescott looked he this is the weirdest game that i think i've ever seen dak prescott play it was so weird it was very weird it they they were they got five first downs until there was 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter they they just weren't able like it was essentially every single uh like sequence was the broncos ran the ball down the cowboy's throat givante williams who is awesome shout out u n c football big weekend for them ran the ball down their throat and teddy bridge our word bridge router would make a couple big throws to tim patrick or someone else and then the cowboys would get the ball back and they would be in third and long and they wouldn't be able to get a first down and then they would punt

or they would go forward on fourth and not get it and it was just like rinse repeat the only break that like felt like the game was going to shift was the weirdest play just start the second half when the cowboys blocked a punt but because it went a couple yards past the line of scrimmage and they touched it first and the broncos then recovered it the broncos got the ball which that was that was like a spirit of the game rule that they should have been like bullshit the cowboys get the ball the ref should have just known like hey this isn't football right this is a football what if there's a coach that could exploit that rule i don't know how you could i was thinking about that yeah into the the the rush that's coming at you have it deflect past the

line of scrimmage and then touch it essentially a forward pass at that point that's the part that it has to be touched past the line of scrimmage yes so it can be blocked but then it has to be hit again after it goes past the line of scrimmage and then and then clearly recovered yeah tough to exploit but the broncos like david culley will figure it out he's he's the punting evil genius of the nfl the broncos were going to win this game no matter what i'm not going to say that that punt like changed the game it definitely changed whether it was going to be a game you know i think the cowboys would have made it a game it blocked a momentum swing yes it stopped a momentum from happening but the broncos were just awesome and i looked into it a more because i really do

like this vaughn miller halloween party i i would watch maybe one of those maybe not a 30 for 30 but a mini documentary on it like a five minute just explainer um i didn't realize it was actually vaughn miller who wanted to cancel the party and because they were losing so that was good teammate but then he also wanted to charge everyone yeah so it's like the deposit you don't get the deposit yeah it's like yeah for like the giraffes and everything so it's like the guy who who uh cancels the bachelor party and then is like no i'm not paying for anything last second like dude you got to you got to still chip it so but vaughn miller was canceling it and then also expecting everyone to pay and he also has made like 90 million dollars so isn't vaughn miller also a

big animal guy like he owns a lot of chickens it's probably his giraffes that he owns that he was renting out to himself he's just using it as an operation to make money billy feels like he has something to say because i for people who don't know uh what billy's like strength now is and i mean this is a strength billy goes to the corners of the internet for us like he's gonna have a first hand like well i talked to the guy who had the petting zoo yeah and he it was non refundable actually i think what billy is he's not a reply guy he's a reply guy guy so he he reads all the reply guys and that's where he gets the honest to god boots on the ground direct uncut news from right um he's like 99 percent of which is completely bogus i've seen it on the internet

and it's just a reply guy with like four followers but he did see it so billy give us the reply guy guy report the rumor has it that but this actually think true no this is how they start i don't care i think it's like billy your job is to give us the unfiltered things the internet's talking about it's our job to decide whether it's complete bullshit no i so vaughn miller wanted to cancel the party but the other players wanted him to have the party still so he said okay like i don't think you guys deserve the party but if you want to still have the party then you guys should pay for it ah okay so billy you're you're basically like your tap water were the brita filter and then we put in the brita filter then the audience listens to that i believe that though i i think i think

we've uncovered the truth and that's that vaughn miller is basically if dick cheney has haliburton and he's selling all the haliburton stuff to the defense department vaughn miller is doing that to his own teammates with his giraffe farm right yeah i got it either way hank hank gets it either way this game you cannot convict just like mike mccarthy smashing a watermelon uh you know last year when they beat the vikings just like we're going to get to odell beckham you can't tell me that vaughn miller getting traded and the halloween like uh request for all this money didn't play apart in the broncos coming out and playing their best game of the year against a cowboy's team that was undefeated against the spread seven and one seemingly rolling with cooper rush on

sunday football last week and they lay a complete egg against a broncos team i may never get in front of again now that they've figured out this whole halloween issue yeah one other thing about this game teddy bridgewater is actually good when you let him throw the ball deep i think you're and your running game is awesome and your running game is awesome javante javante williams i think that we put him in our respect folder about a month ago we said be on the alert to potentially have to respect this guy later on in the season 111 yards for him teddy bridgewater is good when you let him throw the ball i think his problem is teddy is very very accurate on short passes and so then they just have him throw those all the time they have him do the dink and dunk stuff yes but just let him

throw the ball deep and the offense actually looks competent i um does cooper rush win this game i think so that for a minute i don't know i don't have anything like direct to say about dax play besides the fact it was just a weird game for him yeah i still think maybe his calf still hurts i don't know he said he said afterwards that it wasn't the calf um which credit to him for not using an injury which i absolutely would always use an excuse when given one uh and maybe a little bit in part because jerry jones went on radio like on monday it was like dax playing no matter what because that jerry's not gonna have a home game where his his big quarterback isn't playing no jerry you gotta need to jerry needs to sell some tickets cooper rush doesn't put asses in seats yes so but

this was an ass kicking and you could also maybe throw in the fact that the cowboys messed with an iconic helmet and did the red white and blue stripes down the middle which listen i'm not it's not a comment about america it's more a comment about like you don't mess with your helmet yeah i actually thought that the helmet looked awesome it looked cool until you start getting killed until you but you can't get your ass kicked yeah 30 nothing in those helmets aren't as cool it looked like the uh the wings of an airplane and top gun that's where the star and the red white and blue so i like that being a big top gun fan myself but yeah they just stunk they flat out stunk no but credit to the broncos because the broncos this there are upsets that is

fluky and weird and you know like oh i didn't see this coming we had this game on the broncos just like they manned they manned up on the cowboys they like they they physically dominated them the entire game it looked like the cowboys never had anyone open it looked like the broncos always had like huge holes to run through so i don't know the good news for dallas is they're six and two and the eagles are dallas seven and dallas six and two oh i thought they were seven and oh they were seven and oh against the spread they're six and two and uh the eagles are in second place in that division at three and six so really the cowboys they they're good they could just not show up for a couple weeks yes they'll be fine they are good um but yeah they they lose their uh they're perfect

against the spread i do i do like what dak said about this game there's no better term than this dak said the cowboys just got whooped yeah it was like it was whu pped they got that's almost a whooping yeah no they got a whooping they got whooped a good old-fashioned whooping that was from start to finish it was never it wasn't ever in doubt it was a whooping i think a whooping is more disrespectful in certain ways than than a clowning a whooping is getting clowned physically clowned well here's the thing if you get clowned you can you can kind of figure out a way like all right let's go out next game knock it clowned when you get whooped you have to start questioning yourself you have to dig deep you have to start from like scratch again if you get whooped because

they beat you that they clowned you with fundamentals right that's what a whooping and they and they just played man football on you and whooped you up so billy do you think whooping is worse than a clowning a whooping's like no whooping a whooping it's whu ppin apostrophe now whooping would you say there's a little more punishment involved in a whooping yeah no it's a more physical clowning yes it's like a john wane gasey clowning less fun yeah whooping you you have the team come in and and and hit the weight room and do some suicides and do all that whooping clown you're just like all right well we clown this thing you can you can like show somebody up yeah the clown show put some smoke and mirrors out there a lot of razzle dazzle a whooping is just like

hey we are we played football better than you played football today yes in a clowning fashion yes um all right next whooping which wasn't as much of a whooping as it was a head scratcher how the hell did this happen i'm going to watch this game in every single second i watch i'm like when are the bills going to show up uh jaguars nine bills six i still can't really believe this final score uh josh one josh allen played great the other didn't josh allen on the jaguars played incredible uh he was all over the field probably his best game is a pro and then our josh allen uh well i was probably his worst game in like two or three years because it was i don't really understand what the bill's plan was it felt like similar to the cowboys broncos

game it felt like this game was just watching the same play over and over and that was josh allen running around in the back field either getting sacked or throwing it at someone's feet like 20 yards down the field because it was a third and 22 yeah the more i i look at the stats from this game and just remember watching it when it was on and it wasn't really a game that anybody paid attention to until like halfway through the third quarter where it was like is this actually going to happen because they did the exact same thing last week with the dolphin the dolphin we expected josh allen to go out there and throw a 70 yard touchdown at some point they'll show up and they'll start kicking their ass it's it's just the jacksville defense played well the jacksville

defense got a good pass rush made him uncomfortable and josh allen power rankings josh allen won josh allen number two yes um uh yeah i'll agree yeah josh allen one and josh allen we had the most name agamis possible in this game yep all the different plays happened i know jake was really having a good time watching josh allen's all over the place the first time josh allen sacked josh allen the first time josh allen first time any quarterback got sacked by a player of the same name yeah crazy which i thought about it there's definitely going to be a tom brady who's like who was born in like 20 i don't know 2004 and the other tom brady's going to play dilly's 70 and he's just going to be playing like a field of tom brady's yeah i'm thinking about

like the younger group of quarterbacks that have just gotten to the league and if you're power ranking are like putting the odds out seeing which new quarterback is most likely to get sacked by somebody with the same i feel like mac jones has a pretty strong opportunity there should be a corkel though you know we got to go mac on that no mac oracles but i feel like there might be a mac jones that gets into the NFL but besides that we'll probably not we won't see a name agami weekend like we had today it also had the most electric ending of all time the walk off punt yes i love a good walk off punt i know some people were saying that the jacksville punters should just start sprinting backwards take a safety from the 40 take a yeah just run into the end zone take a safety no one

would have said that walk away with a nine seven victory but the walk up with the the clock hitting zero while the punt is still in play is i feel like it's very rare it's very very rare uh it was also the bills made it to the red zone once all day on their first possession it was i i guess the big question coming out of this game first of all fuck you jaguars because you should be able to trust that some teams give up and i don't like the fact that they haven't given up and that now i have to like have my eye out for hey are the jaguars starting to believe in this thing like are they are they turning the corner somehow here are they going to start thinking that urban mayers good coach because i was ready to stick a fork in them be like the jaguars are going to just

suck for the rest of the season urban mayers going to leave fake heart attack whatever it may be now i have to look at them with a whole new set of eyes the problem with the jaguars is they gave up too early in the season so they went through that like usually you don't see a team completely give up on their coach until at least like week 11 week 12 i think they gave up on urban mayer in week two this year and then and then like shit we got a whole season yeah so then you go through a few weeks of you gave up on your coach and then it can very quickly turn into us against the world mentality this is where it's like we gave up on our guys so early and we're such trash that now we have time to feel disrespected yes and then respond to that and actually start playing some

tough defense and also credit where credit is due to urban mayer he is now a 500 football coach after finger blasting that chicken a bar whoa that's huge got his groove two and two two and two this is also the jaguars first win in america in the united states in 420 days unbelievable so congratulations your jaguars take a bow here you are right that uh the give up too early can lead to another like oh shit it's like when i eat lunch at like 10 a.m and then i have to eat another lunch that's breakfast you're talking about right now but no there's lunch because i also ate breakfast and you eat at 10 and then you're like two comes around you're like well i should probably eat again because it's you know more regular lunch time they're at the two o'clock lunch where they gave up

and now they're come back and they will give up again oh yeah but we got a time that we're we're in a window right now with the jaguars the jaguars are a dangerous team right now this game also proved i think without a doubt the man in curse so the man in curse really wanted to talk about that is who's i think we're going to talk about during the game though okay i think that's what we decided okay is that okay billy do you want to save it i had some stats on it okay go ahead unload uh travis kelsey came on week one calce calce lost in week two russia wilson came on in week one as well also lost in week two groin came on on week two lost in week three staffer got on week three lost in week four brady week seven was the second time of the

buckners were victims of the man in curse and now josh alan week eight is also a victim what was uh when did your breeze come on um i think he was on find it out his son's when yeah no it was more recent than that no it was way more recent than that yeah give me a date for when drew breeze came on i think it was after the break so maybe brady week seven because they took that two week break so it was week seven what what's the what's the time what's week seven date 24th he came on the 24th they're 25th okay never mind i was thinking i was trying to figure out if it was maybe after because prodigious wins like the biggest games in the world and then loses so i was seeing if maybe it was they then had a Purdue loss right after huh so who's

gonna be everywhere follows you everywhere so it's gonna be the the stealers and the bears monday night football they're not they're not doing the manning cast it's back week 10 yeah we also pft was sort of on so josh alan called me his best friend i know but i'm just wondering you he's cursed a little of the curse did i could yeah i'm a curse actually yeah my tweets they were pretty god awful oh so maybe it's affecting me damn i mean no worse than usual but it's affecting everyone yeah it's coming forever um i so my big question coming out of this game jaguars aside we'll figure out when they give up again uh are the bills like are you this is one of those games we're like are you kind of not panicking but the first half against the dolphins was weird yeah you win that game

but then you go to jacksonville and shout out to bill's fans that went to jacksonville the pool was packed with bill's mafia beforehand it was awesome to see but i like that's got to be a weird sinking feeling because this is your afc to win this year like the chiefs are down you know obviously the ravens the titans there's some teams the patriots look like they're they're coming back but like this was supposed to be the bill's year to win the afc and now you just lose to the jaguars one of the worst teams in the nfl i don't know that one's a strange one then they have the jets next week so get right they're bi-week they better get right yes thank you greeny they will get if they if they struggle at all with the jets i might have to throw up i might have to throw up the panic

button you would rather have this happen right now if you're the bills yeah why not have your really shitty loss occur you know november 7th non-divisional game here it gets a team that you're definitely not going to see again here's what it comes down to me like watching the bills play and bill's fans you can chime in tweet me tell me whatever if i'm way wrong but there's times where it feels like the bills are trying to play video game offense where they don't really run the ball like ever and they run around in the pocket and then they find someone open and video game offense as we see with the chiefs it's fun but sometimes you got to just be able to like this is a game where if the bills should have just been able to run on the jaguars and and like

win the game somewhat easily and now i have to fuck around with this instead it felt like they were in third and long all day i think did zach moskett hurt i don't know that was part of it i don't know if he got hurt but i do know that they were missing two starting offense lineman which does explain a lot yes that does explain a lot but i don't know it just feels like their run game i don't know where it was i think zach mosk must have gotten hurt because he had three carries and uh did he get hurt yes he got hurt so maybe that's some explanation to it but it always feels like whenever the bills are at the bad bills it's that same kind of feel of like they're always going backwards not forwards yeah they're going backwards and then hoping for a

long pass down the field to bail them out right they're talented enough where they do get bailed out on offense a lot too it doesn't feel like they're like going you know what i mean like five yard pass three yard run that kind of feel it's like backwards backwards oh hope we get a 20 yard bomb to step on digs another interesting thing happened in this game i don't know the last time i've seen this if i've ever seen it but i think that the jaguars missed three field goals in a row yes they did back to back to back because there were penalties that kept getting called back there was one that was running into the kicker there was another one i forget what the second one was but they missed three progressively shorter field goals in a row no they went backwards once

they went backwards on one of them okay yes they went forwards backwards forwards missed all three yeah missed all three of them that wasn't great trevor lorence got injured for a little bit cj bathered was going to come into the game cj bathered is i don't care where he was actually born that man is a hundred percent pure jackson villard heart yeah just looking yeah yeah yeah yeah his picture i just always think of him as i will be yeah he's definitely iowan but i mean he's also very if you look at his picture it just looks like a mug shot yeah he's like every team photo that he's ever done looks like he's getting released from prison yes um okay so bill's panic button i don't know i you can't panic but that's a weird one i mean that's like a one where i guess

the better way to phrase it is if you are i mean the cow is kind of similar although the the broncos are better than the jaguars but like i couldn't see the bucks losing a game like this yeah i couldn't see a healthy package team losing a game like this i couldn't see a rams team losing a game like this even though they lost tonight like like to the to the true bottom three or four teams it's if you are considered one of the top teams you don't lose those games if i'm the bills i i have taken the panic button out of storage yeah i'm looking at the panic button i'm not about to press it yet but for the first time in a long time and the bills really don't have that much experience with the panic button because in recent history it's been like you know that that would be

a luxury for them to be able to afford to panic because that means that you felt confident in your team correct going into it correct they haven't had that issue for well so they've they've taken the old panic button out of storage it's on this it's across the table from them this is the first time in a long time that true expectations are in buffalo yep because even last year was like the ascension of the team and it was fun and it was different but now yeah no you're right the true expectations all right uh next up battle of ohio browns 41 bangles 16 the browns kicked the shit out of the bangles um i know that like we love to make hot takes on the show people love hot takes in media it is not a hot take to say that the browns are just significantly

better and baker may feel this significantly better without odot beckham and there's like nothing i don't really know why it's all proof well i know why because he doesn't have to feel like he has to throw uh the ball to odot beckham and if he misses odot beckham odot beckham's dad's gonna make a fucking mixtape with rem behind it that's probably a big reason like that's gotta be part of it it's gotta be in the back of your head knowing that like a guy on your team's gonna roast me his dad like fucking can't stand you it's a weird position to be in um and people are saying or there was one anonymous source on the browns that was saying that he's a malcontent let's just say that was a malcontent and i think that like odot beckham i think it's absolutely fair to say he's a

malcontent he even said today that or his agents were telling teams like hey odot wants to go to a super bowl contender and if he doesn't get picked up by a contender he's gonna make some issues for so he's like he's pre he's pre-malcontent yes um if billy's dad decided to make a mixtape every time we we busted on billy i'd think twice about it yeah i'd still do it but i would think twice about it yeah why hasn't your dad done that yet like just a burner account just like here are the times they were they were wrong and my son was right oh sir yacht has to chug skyline chili raw he does he has to raw dog you can't skyline here are some numbers ready so odot beckham uh when he's not playing with baker mayfield or so when baker mayfield is without odot beckham he has 41

touchdown 17 interceptions when he has odot beckham 42 touchdowns 29 interceptions 15 11 without him 13 and 15 with him he had today uh baker mayfield had his fifth game in his career where he had over 130 passer rating uh four out of five odot beckham wasn't on the team and the fifth odot beckham dressed but didn't catch a ball hmm so it's essentially every time baker mayfield plays to his absolute ceiling odot beckham is not part of it that's yeah i mean it may it makes sense oh and one more i think baker actually like he enjoys the fact that if his team loses a talent like that that it's kind of all on him at this point well here's the other thing baker mayfield had uh eight guys caught a pass today for the browns and not one guy had more than five targets

jarvis laundry had the most with five targets so it's clear they're spreading the ball around they're running they're running the offense through nick chubb it's like awesome who's awesome but it's it's not a hot take anymore odot beckham was bad for the browns like they found their mojo again and it's actually kind of funny that they found their mojo in the exact same place last year that where odot beckham hurt his knee was in Cincinnati yeah uh here's a hot take i think that the bangles should go after odot beckham get all the lsu offense and just one team just do it up big yeah get the bayou bangles going um so the big question on this game besides the browns kind of finding their mojo again did we kind of jump the gun on the bangles because i think we might

yeah but it was fun it was so much fun when when are we going to be able to say that the bangles could win a super bowl ever again on this podcast probably don't we had to take that opportunity or a window no big i'm not blaming myself for you credit to us for seeing the one possible window that we might ever have on the show to anoint the Cincinnati bangles listen the bangles we said it when they beat the ravens we said bangles fans you deserve this you deserve to take a day off of work and just sit there and consume all the media that you can you deserve that but it we should say it two weeks ago they were first in the afc north we start today their last so that was very fast and it happened against the jets and then against the browns and they still

have to play the ravens again they still have to play the stealers twice i believe and then once oh yeah that's right they beat the stealers the first time and they have to go and play the the browns in cleveland i i don't know it's just their defense was was a mess joe borough wasn't great yeah he needs to improve his tackling joe borough is maybe the worst tackling quarterback never tackle yeah well that's the rules tom brady has always had it right i learned this when j cutler broke his hand off an interception tackling a guy yeah and he don't done that a few times don't take your wrist either either don't tackle or spend time practicing tackling the practice yeah if you i mean tom brady just runs off the field he just gets out of the way you got to do that every

no he has the refs break up yes that's anyone that's trying to block him during a return but i think this is kind of i mean the bangles i feel bad for bangles fans but yeah that wasn't great they're not out of it the bangles are definitely not out of this they still they're the good news is you're in the afc and the afc is going to be there's going to be a nine and eight ten and seven team in the afc if you're in the nfc you'd be fucked but you're in the afc so you can still get back into it but it's not they're not in a great spot right now yeah and they don't have the bangles have kind of a tough end of their season i'm looking at the schedule right now they have to go to vegas then pittsburgh chargers and then finish with the browns they got the

browns chiefs are in there and i know the chiefs kind of stink but i still i'm i'm going to die waiting for the chiefs to turn back into the chiefs at some point this is just the i i regret nothing i'm happy the bangles had their moment but this was a bad bad game for them and it was a like the the browns were just ripping off big plays pick six's big runs and miles garret was doing this thing where he's just bigger than everybody and stronger than everybody you just can't block him no an impossible man to block nope um so yeah maybe jump the gun on listen the bangles have to so the raiders steelers and chargers they're next three two of them at home they have to go two and one of these if they go one and two i think it's officially the bangles are

you know they made strides but they're probably not a playoff team because then we're then we're looking at like the end of november and they're uh they're like a six and six team which is going to be tough you know like the afc's bad like top to bottom it's not as strong as the nfc but i do think that you would it would put them in a tough spot where they have to win some tough games in december like they'd have to go three and one four and oh in december yeah nine and eight probably isn't going to cut it nine i feel like nine and eight might get you a spot but probably at 10 and seven 10 and seven these numbers are so stupid they really it really has ruined everything i think two like it was genius by gadel because i'm not going to really get pissed off about it until we

get to the end of the season until a team is like nine and seven and then they have another game yeah right that's when it's going to fuck me up or when you win 10 games and you're still missed the playoffs by like two that will like in the nfc that would piss me off like what do you mean we won 10 games um all right next up uh this one not so we're coming back to earth after those first three games that were uh ass kickings i guess maybe not the jaguars and bills but when you you know the spread it was an ass kick uh ravens vikings ravens 34 vikings 31 so i'll we'll talk about the ravens but i want to start with the vikings i think we have to officially vikings fans and i know a lot of vikings fans don't like me they don't like you

either because what we say about kirk cousins vikings fans you are not allowed to say we are a couple plays away from being a good team because at some point you are what you are and the vikings are just the team that can play teams close but can never win a game i think so if you're vikings fan this is why they get so angry at you and i is because their team is the most frustrating team correct because they should be a good team but they're not on paper they should be a good team but they're not you know they get so frustrated that they they're like big cat and pft are the reason why my team stinks but you know what i mean when you do the in every fan does it and i understand it when you're like hey one play here one play there you know we lost the cardinals by a

field goal we lost to the bangles by a field goal we lost to you know these guys by overtime all these things eventually you just are a team that can't close and that's what they are and i actually i don't know why mike zimmer didn't go for two at the end uh according to mike zimmer he didn't want to go for two because that would have meant that the the ravens would have come back on the field and tried to win the game in regulation and so they did try to do which they tried to do but it's essentially mike zimmer saying i really don't trust my defense at all in this situation so he didn't go for two because he was afraid that he that he would almost be like goading the the ravens offense into trying to win the game in regulation at the end which is

just crazy like bizarre double logic that he's using great crazy all comes out of the fact that he doesn't trust his guys the the vikings now have lost two back to back games where they were plus two in the turnover differential which is very tough to do um they were like they were up they they started the second half up 14 points because they returned the opening kick so i the vikings just are what they are they're a team that can play anyone close but they can never win a big game yeah um this is from dustin baker on twitter he pointed out that the vikings and ravens is a bellwether event for the vikings so they're three and three against the ravens okay and in the three seasons that they beat baltimore the vikings went to the nfc championship in the three seasons that

they lost the head coach got fired after that year so this will be so this would be mike zimmer's i i believe he probably will get fired i think he probably wants to be fired yeah it's kind it's it's like not he's not a bad coach it's just you do the same thing over and over eventually you just got to say all right enough is enough yeah this was the fullback bowl too cj ham patrick rickard is i don't think he's human he was leading he was leading he was leading the ravens in catches in yards going into the fourth quarter he gets bigger every season i think now he's like six three three hundred fifteen pounds it was and you know what the craziest part about this game is the the ravens kind of dominated them so i was looking at the box score the ravens had 36

first downs to the vikings 13 it just all goes back to the ravens defense is good but they give up by far and away the most explosive plays in the nfl so i had evan our stats guy look it up because i was like i feel like the ravens just always give up huge touchdowns they've given up 18 plays of 30 plus yards and 11 touchdowns of 30 plus yards no other team the nfl has given up five damn it's crazy so they just get gashed for big plays and then they play good defense as long as they can keep you in front they're they're break but don't bend yes yeah exactly exactly yeah exactly so that that's exactly what happened in this game they gave up a punt return or a kick return they gave up a huge touchdown to jesson jefferson

they gave up a huge run to dalvin cook but then when the vikings needed to get like first downs the old-fashioned way they weren't able to do it yeah and uh if you ask jim harbaugh excuse me john harbaugh uh who the big MVP this game was he gave the game ball to faith just just the concept of faith okay got the game ball from the ravens today i think he did that a couple weeks ago he gave i gave the game ball to teamwork or something like that faith is faith deserves faith gets the game ball i'm in favor of giving game balls to limp biscuit songs um we also we got a barrier we got a barrier narrative on this game okay officially barrier narrative and i've been part of it uh lemar jackson is now the king of the comebacks this year so he was down two scores

start the second half uh previously in his career he was 0 and 6 went down two scores in the second half he's now had three games this year where he's brought the ravens back down from double digits he is that narrative's dead like he can do it when he needs to bring his team back when he needs to throw the ball he was he was off in the first half they were like felt like they were sleep walking the first half but when they needed big plays he was all over the place running passing so we got a barrier narrative i think what lemar was doing the previous seasons he would always go down double digits to really good teams yeah that would make it tough for him to come back on now he's going down double digits to worse teams like the colts yes the vikings and the chiefs yes

and so he's able to actually come back against them in the second half but yeah that narrative's done see it bury it bury it like lemar jackson was awesome today he was bad in the first half and then he was awesome in the second half and he won this game for the for the ravens and uh yeah he's bury that fucking narrative come back lemar also shout out to jordan jefferson wearing a free odell jefferson yeah yeah yeah jesson jefferson wearing a free odell shirt before the game i don't free him free him free him from from i don't know what a terrible teammate free free him from malcontentary yeah free him from uh having it was free just as in like he's up there if you want to grab him like there's free odell anybody interested yeah he's uh

i mean it was one of one of the greatest freedom fights of our time yes lebron got involved uh odell's dad got involved everybody yeah the freedom fighters of odell they got him uh released so thank god him and erin rogers freedom fighters freedom fighters they odell shout out odell you fought a good fight of being bad on your team and being a bad teammate and having your quarterback be worse when you're on the field and then finally having the team release you that's freedom baby thank you sir that's it it's it's i feel i feel blessed to be witness to something that we will someday be like it's important what do you remember 2021 when we freed odell yeah it's important what he's done it's like we found kony and we freed odell we freed odell like he was big year

it was unjust what odell was having to go through getting paid millions and millions of dollars to basically have everyone on his team hate him to suck the life to be an energy vampire for the second time yeah second team yeah he should go he should go back to the giants they could use them you know i mean we although no the giants have some culture going you don't want to fuck that up hand up i think that us as the media lost sight of what's important when it comes to the odell narrative we're not talking about the boat picture anymore no i know the boat picture is really what started i know i know although it comes up every now and then when they're like the record of the giants put since the boat picture yeah i mean they've been the worst team in the NFL and the boat

scandal was literally he was just hanging out on a boat one well i think it was more that they're wearing jeans on the boat yeah which is like that's egregious the faux pas you can't wear jeans on a boat and tim's and they're Miami yeah come on and they had shirts off with jeans you got you i would rather you be wearing a shirt and be in dick out and one of them you know what i mean like it makes no sense to do jeans with your shirt off on a boat like i agree makes no sense i agree that and shoes shoes is a really weird part if you're wearing shoes and your shirts off and you're in the state of florida you're you should be about to get into a fight there's no other reason for um all right so free everyone just tweet us your favorite moment when we freed odell it was uh

it's a great fight lebron shout out i think we're free really did lebron really did free him i think we're free odell podcast yeah i hope lebron does like a barbershop episode about it about freeing odell um all right giants raiders speaking to the giants the culture is changing that was a gutsy win is it yeah you hate the giants but i don't i don't hate them i bet on them today i like the giants i knew they were gonna win them all the time the giants are three and six it's their best record through nine games since they hit five years ago but they are the giants are a team that like what the vikings want to be i feel like the giants are where you can actually look at some of these games it's like they they have been getting closer to really good teams they got killed by a couple

teams they got killed by the rams but they've been getting close to some wins and they're starting to break through and actually winning a couple of these games and daniel jones wasn't great but they did like that was an ugly win and sometimes you got to win ugly yeah change the culture yeah they they beat a more talented team with their own culture yes i think that and they are three and six i feel the need to repeat that stat that's their best record yeah nine games since 2016 yeah no they have been good definitely turning it around but they've been covering spreads and they've been playing close games again they got smoked by the rams and the cowboys that was also daniel jones getting concussed but i'm throwing that game out that game that game does not count towards who i

think the giants are right now the the good news for the giants they play monday football against the bucks their next game i think they have a bye week but then they play and if they show up and play well in that game i could see the giants winning that game i don't know about winning but they will definitely be in the game monday night that was the original dany dimes game yes that's true that's right that's that's why i think that they can win because my dumb brain flashes back three seasons and i remember dany dimes getting in that second half and just absolutely being a covered god for me yeah i mean they they they fight they fight like they they are not like super talented they're always injured but i don't know they beat a team today that was definitely better than them yep and

i do think that the raiders like emotional bubble kind of burst today the fact that they have gone through john gruden and then you know henry rugs which is not like i mean that's they're not battling back from that but it's definitely something yeah right it's shocking it's a shocking thing to have happen yeah if you're a teammate of henry rugs that's definitely i let's just do a quick sidebar i appreciate the people uh on twitter on friday who were like we're mocking erin rogers and henry no one's talking about henry rugs like henry rugs is there's really no nuance he's a scumbag and he killed a person and he's also in jail yeah and he's not going to be in the nfl ever ever again erin rogers is like an mvp candidate there's no humor in that it's just bad guy kill the person

drunk driving go to jail yes like very tragic erin rogers there's some humor in this yeah and who knows how many people erin rogers is killed but way more probably way more but no there's there's humor in that you can joke around about that obviously henry rugs is a scumbag and deserves but you see that people are trying to make the like yeah henry oh but we also did talk about henry rugs on the show so like no i know but it was when when when people were tweeting about erin rogers like why isn't henry rugs trending it's like because there's no discussion here yeah it's everyone i think we were all on the same page here everyone can agree oh we're all agree should be in jail yes and he is in jail he's not he's not ever going to play in the nfl again but

the emotional bubble from the raider season had to burst at some point it felt like today like they weren't able to finish any drives and uh i still believe in rich basickia but that was i mean they they just and also derrick car's hair what's up with that yeah it's getting throwed out it's like a lego it's getting very yeah it's fucking crazy it's fuzzy it's i think the humidity has something to do with it anytime he's playing outside of las vegas it always puffs out quite a bit there's there's no humidity right now in new york yeah there's not i mean it's more than they were in the we're in that crisp the bomb so yeah he's got lego hair i don't know what it is it's we it's like weird lines around his ears too it kind of looks like he's got he's growing pubes out of his head

it's crazy i i think it i'm not gonna tell him man how to do his hair but i think it had something to do with the loss today he probably took his helmet off clem wrote a blog about it and it was like every time he took his helmet off was like whoa that guy what i've also noticed that derrick car seems to throw a lot of interceptions for a guy that doesn't throw any interceptions yeah because that's every time you you talk about derrick car and being like i don't really trust him when it comes down to people always point out well he actually takes care of the ball besides all the fumbles with his tiny hands right but they'll say like he doesn't throw interceptions but then i feel like every time i watch him play he does throw an interception or a weird interception

yes also special shout out to pro football focus they were doing this article that came out last week it was a look ahead to the 2022 draft okay and so they did a mock draft and then they graded the team's performance in their own mock draft that they came up with okay so they had the giants taking two offensive linemen in the first round gave one pick a c plus and the other c minus i love it so pro football pro football focus has already graded steven jay working for them the giants fake 2022 draft picks they decided for them and giving them a c for i think that's also assuming that getlemans still going to be around by the time i he might i think the giants are doing just enough to like they can convince themselves if they so there are three and six i want to say if they

can get i'm looking at their schedule if they can figure out a way to maybe beat the cowboys at home and they get to like six or seven wins i think they can there there's a way you can look at the giants to be like if we're healthy this could work and then what that means is next year they bring everyone back daniel jones is not good joe judge sucks and they have to like restart everything over because that is it's the it's the worst feeling as a fan to be stuck in that zone of our teams trying really hard and on the right day they look like a real thing and their defense actually like is starting to kind of come together a little bit but then it's not a real thing and you find out it's just smoking mirrors and you're like fuck we're fucked yeah getlemann

a lesson that a lot of you at home could take from this is uh you gotta strike while the iron's hot in life you have to be your own best self promoter sometimes getlemann should just march straight into mr. mayor's office tomorrow and be like we are three and six for the first time since 2016 i think this warrants an extension that you can demonstrably prove that you've you've shown improvement in this team over the last three years facts you got to ask for an extension right now facts this is a big win facts um huge win huge huge win and i just love the giants because they all they do is cover also tachan jackson is a raider as first reported on part of my day on friday i believe we that was uh a good old-fashioned etsy dream board yep that was just like huh fast

receiver speed in cool colors look like up raiders and he dropped his own photoshop too he had somebody whip him up a photoshop he looks awesome in the all white uniforms yeah i'm happy when those little things it's like a reminder like oh we still got it we can still just be like yeah to shan jackson should be on the raiders don't have it happen um all right before we get to the next game uh pft quick word from shady rays yeah i love our great friends over shady rays i'm wearing shady rays right now they are the official sunglasses of part of my take they're the official sunglasses of life i love my shady rays they have the best warranty in the entire industry too if you lose them if they get broken you can get a full refund they send you a brand new pair they have a brand new uh frame

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between shady rays and ourselves available only at shady rays dot com slash pmt all right falcons saints god bless the saints they are we've said it before they're the greatest yo-yo team of all time and now obviously jamie's got hurt but they have beaten the packers then the next week lost to the panthers they beat the patriots to the next week lost to the giants they beat the bucks to the next week they lose to the falcons they are perfectly consistent in their letdown spots and this was a prime one and they almost came back and won the game and i is it lana like fixed because that that's a game we were watching it and all of a sudden it pops up they're up 24-6 going into the fourth quarter or in the fourth quarter all of a sudden the saints are in the

red zone about to score and take the lead out of nowhere normal atlanta sports the falcons just lose that game they go throw it down the sideline i don't know what the saints are doing in defense quarter all patterson streaking down the sideline and they win the game so all in the last week the braves won the world series georgia continues to be the only really good team in in college football atlanta united made the mls united dynasty and then the falcons win a game that they they tragically like gave up the lead and should have lost the old falcons would have lost a million times out of a million yeah and they win it against the division rival so i actually think that our falcons power rankings were 100 correct a couple weeks ago the vikings are definitely the falcons

now the vikings have become the falcons they still gotta win some they gotta win a little bit more but they're losing in very falcons ways these falcons are not the old school falcons they're a little bit different i don't think that they're as good as some of the better falcons teams that we've seen in the past obviously like to the team that beat tom brady and the super bowl for three quarters but they're um they're frisky they're they're dangerous i would say the falcons are a team that could beat they could beat 90 percent of teams in the nfl on any given sunday do you know what it is it's matt ryan is is essentially saying i'm still like you guys all thought i was washed i'm still pretty good because he was really good and he also jumped up he's now tied seventh all

time for fourth quarter comebacks for a quarterback which is kind of crazy yeah especially the names so it's patent breeze brady rottlesburg or marino farve like i'm just listing hallfamers greatest of all times elway ryan damn like that's a crazy list yeah i i actually had no idea that he because when i think of matt ryan yeah i think matt ryan and the falcons i think of like blown fourth quarter isn't that crazy yeah like he and he will i think he has 40 in marino and farve like 43 so he will probably end up his career top five fourth quarter comebacks for a quarterback and i know that like obviously different nfl than it was 30 years ago but i still think that that stat weirdly like translates over time do you know what i mean it does because it also takes into account like your

defense at the time right but yeah if you're a quarterback that can consistently like come back and win in the tribe in the fourth quarter yeah there's definitely something to be said about you coming through in the clutch and having everything around you slow down right when the game's on the line so shout out matt ryan very good very happy crazy maddie ice maddie ice uh shan peyton i'm concerned with shan peyton because he's very much a uh like i trust the guys in my locker room to fix any sort of situation that's going on i don't i don't know how he ever convinced himself that trevor simian is is the guy that's going to be able to take you to the playoffs well here's what i'm confused about with shan peyton to uh get collin coward on you for a second shan peyton

was dating with a long-term relationship and he had a friend of the opposite sex who was like hey you know wouldn't be crazy if we were single at the same time taste him hill he says yeah that would we'd probably be the best ever like we get along we've been friends for a really long time and all these years they don't the the the timing never matched up the timing matched up like taste him hills back from a concussion yeah trevor simian is now you're starting quarterback the timing matched up or a little should be your starting quarterback or at least now you're like uh i don't think i want this or at least have taste him hill just use him as a meat tenderizer and just run straight into defense soften them up a little bit every now and again i think taste

him hill he how many rushing attempts did he have today wasn't that much does it not make any sense like he he's always heard all we heard was taste him hill will be and that's mostly from floria who had just kept on saying that shan peyton thinks taste him hills franchise quarterback they paid him a ton of money they kept him around the timing is right now dude like time to start like making this a real relationship taste him hill should know no offense trevor simian taste him hill should have started today if he doesn't start next week i'm just gonna be like what's going on here i think shan peyton's like listen i just really don't want to ruin our great friendship i don't want to ruin it all by fucking right that's such a great dynamic yes so taste him hill was two for

two on attempts today and uh he ran the ball one time for four yards at the very least just give taste him hill the ball and have if he's not gonna be a starting quarterback have him do the stuff that you love having taste him hill around to do just run wildcat all the time he just wasn't in the game plan whatsoever shan peyton my prediction for him he's going to be as the kids say he's going to be in his bag this week he's going to be big time in his bag yep he's going to have all the weird trick plays that he's filed away in the dark closet they should just start taste him hill you you're paying him yeah you yeah you can start him but i don't think that peyton's going to do that i think he likes i know it's crazy but if you're gonna even have him on your

roster at least use him like you like to use taste him hill and don't have him be an afterthought in the game plan when you're starting quarterback is trevor simion i mean you were you were benching drew breeze even when drew breeze was still decent to get you know force the ball and to taste him hill's hands several times a game a couple years ago but now when it's trevor simion they won't even do that so it's just like i think they probably just been having hotel sex and now they're like trying to have sober sex in their apartment like no this isn't going to work the lights on yeah it's not working it's it looks totally different for them i just it's all we've heard is that taste him hill shon peyton is the only guy in the league who sees taste him hill is a

real starting quarterback now is your chance so they're playing at the titans i'm telling you shon peyton's going to do some weird shit next week because he realizes that he can't just like trevor simion his way out of this mess correct he's going to have to do some smoke and mirrors weird shit they even more to my point there's a there was a rumor a reported rumor that they asked about teddy bridge water he doesn't want to this has all been a ruse he doesn't want to start taste him hill maybe he was just hoping that somebody would offer taste him hill or offer a shitload of picks or something as trade value for him if shon peyton just put the word out there of how much he likes taste him hill maybe another coach would be like wow if he sees something and taste

him maybe i will too all i heard was that you and taste him hill would have the craziest sex together i want to see it that's all we're not we're not seeing it i'm not seeing it um all right patriots panthers hank i said before on friday that uh the patriots were back after their win against the chargers but to be truly back the encore was to dominate the panthers they did that sam darnold stinks uh how are you feeling i feel great i'm looking right at the bills there's only one game ahead of us in the uh in the division that's right right now tables turn how the tables have turned december to remember it's going to be december to remember wow do you feel like you can root for mac jones with a clean conscience knowing that he's now a

dirty player yeah i mean that's a heat of the moment thing i think you and i would do probably do the same thing grab grab a guy's ankle we'll try to snap his leg cues of being dirty it was dirty ish but again it was like a it was a split second thing you're just trying to tackle the guy you're not thinking about it being a dirty the moment man jones that's like uh indonna comes sue when he does a dirty play he knows he's doing a dirty play but he can't stop himself he can't stop himself this was more just like you know i think he just wants to win right yeah you want to you want a crazy mac jones stat that's like so stupid that i love whenever they put a bunch of guard rails on a stat yes mac jones joins andrew luck and dak presscott is the only quarterbacks i love

this to have 10 plus touchdowns 2000 plus yards and five wins in their first nine games in the nfl i wonder what happens after tenth tom who who who else is added i love with those stats it's like wait so what about yeah what about eight eight games what happens yeah i don't know that's rarefied air andrew luck and dak presscott yeah i mean bill bellichick he he owns sam darnold uh you know it was the scene ghost game all all the time sam darnold uh some terrible interceptions his quote yeah so he was 16 for 33 with three interceptions his quote after was i'm fully aware i didn't play my best football right yeah so at least you have that panthers fans at least sam darnold has a self-awareness to know he fucking sucks well no he didn't say he said i'm fully aware

i didn't play my best yeah so maybe there's still a little bit of self-delusion there the interceptions that i threw were interceptions that only sam darnold throws to yes it's like awful passes passes make me feel physically ill it's he's so bad and i i can't believe actually i can't believe because all we do is like knee jerk reactions but the fact that we were like sam darnold's fixed matt rule kind of threw him under the bus too well i don't know if you can call that throwing under the bus i think he deserves to be on the bus told it like it was after the game he goes i don't want to lay it all on one guy but we can't but we can't keep throwing the ball up in the air but our quarter back's name is sam darnold get the get the gist when when your coach is saying about your quarterback

we can't keep throwing the ball yeah then that's that's an issue right there so the other thing of note of this game i think that the scariest part if you're a bill's fan or a fan of another afc team is that when belichick starts dressing worse i think his team gets better like he knows his team is good now because when he hit his outfit that he showed up to today with like the one leg up it was so funny awesome it was so bellichick he had a belly sweatshirt on with another sweatshirt underneath it yeah it looked like he was wearing a crop top yeah but it was like two different layers like two different lengths of cut off sleeves there was one like quarter sleeve and then one like two third sleeve cut off underneath that i have no idea where the

fuck he gets the shit from but it's amazing his wardrobe must be insane and he had his sweat pant one leg up was like almost like i maybe he's a swinger or something being like yeah i fuck um like when they leave their garage doors a little bit open but he's got a pineapple keychain hanging out of the front yeah but bellichick like when he doesn't the the worst he dresses i feel like the better the patriots are like he knows it's almost his tell it's his like teddy k gb eating orios when bellichick shows up in a custom bra hoodie with a half a leg up on his sweat pants looking like i don't he looks like he got concussed and he woke up in an alley he knows that they're gonna fucking kill the panthers the more he looks like a professional

dog walker yeah better off his team's gonna be he just shows up wearing the wearing whatever clothes he feels like he can get the most dirty you not have to worry about later like the patriots are back i saw that picture i was like uh oh like that bellichick is back he's all the way back patriots browns next sunday oh wow whose line is it anyway oh where is this whose line is it anyway believe it's in new england in new england patriots browns patriots minus two and a half patriots minus one did you look you i did not i did not cheat it's minus two and a half damn that's some good odds making doesn't mean i will get it right when i bet it but i like did i get it right i like the people saying that odell is going to go to the patriots like like bill bellichick

would welcome odell bellichick i don't think that's gonna happen i don't know that's kind of right up his alley you think so actually yeah i mean they fucking signed antonio brown they they kind of love that like someone with like actual issues and the thing i like that they do with bellichick is like they they'll take a quote about him that he said post game where he compliments a player on the other team they're like well bellichick loves him so he's coming to england like yeah after like a game or something he's like odell backman's really good like great receiver or something and that is the basis that people use to be like oh i think he's going to new england yeah but bill bellichick loves him the patriots right now i feel like their team is in such a good spot that

you don't i don't know why you'd want to add somebody as volatile as odell into that usually if they do what they do it for like they it costs them nothing like they're gonna get odell they're gonna they're not gonna risk anything to get them they would be doing the exact they would be making the exact same mistake the brownsman like the browns have an identity then they're like oh let's add odell this will be good no no but stick with your identity yeah you know what i mean don't try to i mean i actually think the one thing that could bring bill bellichick down is odell beckham dad making a mixtape about how he's always open and mac jones is missing him imagine if we have to free him again i don't know i'll do it i'll do it again i don't want to do it

i don't want to do it hey i can't free this man twice how would you describe the patriots like how are they how have they started to what is their identity right now because as far as i can tell it's just that they're they're trusting mac jones to throw the ball now they're gritty as hell well i think i feel like what like i said last week they're not great at anything but they're very good at everything fundamentally sound their team you don't want to i said i said i think three or four weeks ago at this point their team you don't want to see at the end of the season like there's no one guy on offense really like oh shit that's the guy that will like you have to game plan around everything you know everything around him but they do everything

well chicoby meyers did not catch a touchdown so the wait still matthew jude on jg i mean they're doing i mean yeah that's right and jc jackson mr i n t their defense has some some ballers definitely yes yes but their offense is like a bunch of good good players like they don't have i don't think that they have like a i'm trying to think of like they don't have a tirey kill they don't have a derek kronk or yeah yeah right you don't have these guys you're like oh my god he's a game changer but everyone else is good i i feel like they don't have enough talent to get over mistakes so if they make if they make dumb mistakes on offense but they don't they're kind of fucked but they just don't because their bell check well coach team um so you're thinking are you soupy i was in the

i was telling pft this the other day it was the first time i was like in the shower getting ready for work and i don't know why i was thinking about it but i was like you didn't tell me you're thinking soupy yes i did no no are you officially thinking soupy i was you're not in the shower when you told me this you thought about this in the shower yes i told you about this i told you about my shower if you were thinking soupy we we'd share each other's shower tell me exactly how it broke down and what time like was it you guys were getting in the shower was it during the soup it was was it during the soup it was because that's no i don't do soup at home is that yes that's not gonna let's all that's all that would be so funny if hank was just making the soup but

he's like soupy that's a that's a that's a road delicacy i feel like hanks the kind of guy that gets like a bar of soap and just scrubs the fuck out of his face and there's one single i do use iris spring but i i do i got like i take care of my beard all right so tell us you get in the shower i mean you guys are main characters of of my my soup uh imagination because i was just thinking i don't know why i was thinking about it i must have been in the shower i was like getting ready for work getting my mind geared up and i was just like what if the patriots went get to the super bowl like big hat pfc will be so mad and like this year my my my brother is getting married the week after the super bowl in california so i'm gonna be out in california so he's gonna

basically get a soupy for his wedding i'm thinking like it's gonna be just the biggest party week of all time i'm gonna win the soupy i'm taking the next week off and i'm just gonna like live the greatest life in LA hank has literally already taken the the week after the super bowl off which is important vacations or some of the warm brothers get married in california fly back to new york and then fly back to california i love i love the fact that you're actually planning this out as having an extended week long soup celebration of a super bowl of the patriots are gonna win wouldn't it be sick for you yes yes and what you i was like big hat pfc would hate me yeah a rookie quarterback winning a suit i hate the wrong word oh you oh i would hate it no hand up i would hate it

i'm i'm holding i hate no see i'm doing i'm doing it's not a strong enough term here's what you gotta do though pft it's called hedging here where you pretend you're not gonna hate it because hoping that it doesn't happen that way you can be like i'm a good friend i told you i wouldn't hate it it's but we could hate it i'm gonna hate the fuck out of it i mean it's very unrealistic it's just you know no i actually it's the first time that and obviously as a pager fan you gas yourself up you're like all right we you know we can do this we can do this it was the first time where i was like this might actually happen no no i actually the craziest thing is i don't think it's that unrealistic i think they still got a a good amount of work to do because they started

you know the start of the season yeah they're gonna have to do it's gonna have to be like when they went on the road in b kansas city but on the road in the a c championship they can win the a fc east yeah and they and if you look at like the a fc now the chiefs are like pedestrian and i know chiefs don't get mad but they they look pedestrian like what are the teams the titans the ravens the bills and then like some combo of the chargers raiders and chiefs i don't i don't think the titans are like the the the team that you fear the most are right and i don't think the patriarch has is out for blood with that i don't think the patriots are like that far off of any of those what's up with the patriots not being able to win at home though steelers maybe that's

kind of weird water always finds its level that's all these all the bad things that have happened in the beginning of season or like that's good it's got it out of their system they lost at home they're gonna be able to you know that guys we can't game against the browns we can't lose at home we have to we have to beat them you know what i think the titans in november i think they are just one odell beckham away from being a complete team that could win the super bowl they should do it like monday revenge game well i don't think yeah i don't think it's it's a waiver wire thing we probably just sign them just to get the playbook yeah i don't really understand the waiver wire but i don't think the patriots are no i think you want to go to the seahawks yeah so i

he says there's no way to go to a contender but then he also says that he's leaning towards the seahawks are the 49ers right now so we're both those teams would be in that waiver wire ability like because someone will take a shot at him and be like well he can't hold us all hostage and just so you know he can and then we will have to free him um all right dolphins texans i don't really want to talk about this game uh the biggest note of this game was that tua got announced out the starting quarterback for the dolphins got announced out and uh wait no the line actually did move towards the the line actually moved correctly okay never mind i was gonna say too uh it almost i i bet on what i i did i bet on the texans then tua got announced out and i was mad yep me too

that's exactly what happened with me and i was like this i was counting on betting against tua and now i have to deal with jacobi brissette who for whatever reason i feel like he plays a lot better when he's just put in at the last minute correct you don't give him like a week yeah exactly the the less he knows about the game plan the better yeah for him but yeah apparently to rod taylor doesn't make that much of a difference over mill's mafia because he's stunk today yeah he's at three interceptions he's stunk there was uh he should be the one that gets an exemption from having shots not Aaron rogers yes rod taylor should have like the the the doctor standing on tail being like hey listen this guy needles do not get along yeah he uh nine total

turnovers in this game that's that is that's something so jake do you want to say something about the dolphins winning irrelevant i mean i don't even have their pick yeah it's oh okay jake fleming over there um you do have a pick was actually not that bad right now the 49ers yeah but whatever um yeah i don't really know what else to say about the skin job dolphins these teams should play each other every week because that way we can all just agree to not pay attention to it as as a nation nine turnovers that's something special it was bad and there was one it went interception interception on consecutive plays jake and i were trying to figure out what the most consecutive interceptions has ever been an nfl game i think it has to have happened like

three times in a row three plays in a row there must be an instance where that's happened if we were going to get it i felt like it was going to be today did you find it for no no but it's gotta it's gotta have happened there maybe there's even an instance where it was four in a row i don't know we've had some pretty bad quarterbacks in this league all right we'll find it we'll try to find it was it was a bad game and i feel bad for anybody that watched it yes that's my main takeaway from this game but shout out frank because he got he was able to go see his dolphins win that's ugly yep it's the dolphins by the way have done that that's the second time they've done it this year the interception or the back to back they did it with matt ryan

into a a couple weeks ago um all right sorry dolphins fans i know there's will be like three guys out there uh actually i don't know i don't think they're dolphins fans anymore they're just two of fans yeah they're just they're just happy it's heat season and panthers and heat see yeah heat season okay yeah the panthers have they lost yet no they haven't they've won over time lost okay ten oh and one i believe those guys are good what's their hashtag we see red at least it wasn't i was in like high school i don't know if it still is we see red okay we can do better than that i think yeah yeah i'll work on it yeah give us we'd only throw rats on the on the yes that's the long tradition the long rats oh hashtag time to hunt time to hunt oh i like it okay i like that

best team in the league they need to get a more ferocious panther maybe a panther stanley you don't like stanley stanley the panther yeah stanley c panther yeah it sounds like you stand i have no clue yeah stanley is the name of like a an accountant stanley's not a a man eater stanley panther stanley the panther stanley c uh this all counts as dolphins talk by the way we're just running the clock this is dolphin's talk that's it that's a goofy ass mask out right there i just about stanley the panther yeah yeah cup cup oh that makes sense stanley cup panther nice very cool okay uh that all counted stop the clock chargers eagles um great comeback game for jesson herbert he had two bad games came back was awesome uh i weirdly i feel like the eagles

actually put they won in a loss because they finally figured out how to use jail and hurts like he was running all over the chargers they like throwing bombs to davante smith who had an awesome game i don't know it felt like the eagles actually found something on offense give nick siriani his flowers which eagles fans of a fan actually did that yeah yeah they threw flowers at him flowers at him wait is that is that wrong no i don't think so they do that bullfights all the time it's it's a sign they're poisonous flowers oh were they yeah was it poison ivy uh-huh knows dogwood was it really yeah they tried to poison their coach yeah they sure yeah yeah listen you throw yeah you throw flowers at people that you care that you love it was very funny that they did that yeah i like that the funniest

part of that entire interaction was actually not nick siriani getting hit by the flowers but nick siriani then stopping dead in his tracks pointing into the stands and screaming at somebody yeah throwing flowers hey bro you're in philly yeah that's the nicest thing that they'll ever do for you next time it's a fucking brick i've i've decided that um next time they're throwing a bullet at your head yeah so just just be happy with flowers this time it's not a battery yeah okay you should be thankful for that but i've decided that i i still like to charge us a lot but i do not trust their defense i just their defense not good i don't trust it no and they're injured and i also i like brandon staley we're gonna have him back on the show i think he's addicted to going for

fourth down like he's addicted to yeah we and it's it's scary because it's like he just lives on the fucking edge he's he is a adrenaline junkie that fourth down at the end of the game which i agreed with but still even if you agree with it you're watching it you're like if they don't get this they're gonna fucking lose this game when they could easily kick a field goal right here he the guy just he likes to live on the edge he's a bad boy i think fourth down i think you're actually right that some of it is just adrenaline for him yeah he doesn't know what the with the percentages are what the analytics say in the moment but he just loves being like fuck it yeah like i'm going down because it's it's it's weird watching a chargers game and i guess it's a smart strategy

because teams should do this more often where they know they're going to go for it on fourth down before like he knows it's at some point when they get to some point in the uh on the field they're always going to go for it on fourth down so they can game plan around it which is actually smart football but it's still scary and even though it's like very commonplace now everyone goes for on fourth down it's scary to just always go for it on fourth down it's also reached the point where the defense now is starting to adjust what they're doing on different play calls on like second down and third down on defense because now it's in the back of their head this crazy motherfucker is going to go for it on fourth down if it's anything less than nine yards

yes and so then they're like double psyching themselves out on defense calling weird alignments in different coverages that they normally wouldn't do against a team like that and brandon staley is just like you know what i'm i'm so he's living rent free in opposing defensive coordinators heads but i i do people go for it so much on fourth down now i'm starting to like i think it's aging me in my takes because i lane kiffin just goes for it on fourth down all the time sometimes it's nice to just punt it and just be like you know what we'll just punt it as josh allen said it's a nice thing to do sometimes as josh allen said today he's like we love drives that end in a kick no matter what it is it's good if you're kicking at the end of your drive yeah if it's an extra point

if it's a field goal or if it's a punt punting is fun punting can be fun every now and then a punt just feels good like hey you know what we don't have it on this drive let's punt it let's play a little fucking defense we'll get the ball back and then maybe we'll punt it again i just i'm a result it makes me nervous it makes me nervous to always go for it on fourth down just mixing a punt every now and then to just calm everyone down yeah i'm a result sky i'm not a process guy trust the results and in this game the results say that brandon staley did a good job so i do ask brandon staley i do think on like a in a serious note there is a point where like everything with the analytics there's a point where it will go too far with like never punting where the human element gets

involved where it's like you just keep missing not like if you have a game you just don't get a fourth down conversion multiple times your defense just like what the fuck like give us a chance you already mean yeah there's going to be a coach it'll swing the other way and we'll get a coach that punts on first down that's what i want to say lane kiffin did it i want to say two weeks ago against auburn where they were down 10 in field goal range and he went forward on fourth down it's like what why don't you kick a field goal he just likes points man he's addicted to that points lifestyle um we had also the uh from our uh stat guy new stat guy jeff henderson on stat whole sports who finds us the saddest stats the longest drive with no points the chargers drove 98

yards yeah it can't work down he went forward on fourth down it'll never be top because it's crazy you can't have a drive longer than 98 yards because you would have to start at your own one yard line and finish and then finish at the opposing one yard line it was incredible so we saw football history today it was it was truly incredible to see that so um that you need a guy who's addicted to going forward on fourth down to have that happen uh but yeah chargers that was that was a game i think we said it last week but this if the chargers were going to be considered for real they had to win this game yeah and eagles are kind of what we eagles are try to compete in games but go to sleep every night if you're an eagles fan being like we got three draft picks

i think the eagles can beat three first round the eagles can beat every bad team in the nfl you're not a bad team they're like they're slightly they're a good bad team yes yes um all right cardinals 49ers uh hand up i have to i have to do a miacopa cliff kingsbury is a good coach there it is hmm he's a good coach yeah because that was an impressive win for them today with they're two top wide receivers out and their quarterback out and like you they game planned better than the 49ers today and i'm starting to think kyle shanahan like i don't know what's going on but we're getting a few years in now where the 49ers like they have impressive wins every now and then and then this is an inexcusable loss to me if you're the 49ers because the the

cardinals have like so had so many guys out you should win this game you played them tough like a month ago and cliff kingsbury had a great game plan and the cardinals are just like that actually in a weird way this was a statement win for the cardinals even though they didn't have kyler murray because it proves that like the the bones of the team is very very good and then you add kyler murray you know what i mean col McCoy is maybe the best backup quarterback in in his career if you look at how long he's been in the league and i know he's eight and twenty two as a starter but he always he never looks like he's outmatched he never looks lost when he's on the field he's a good backup that you want to have on your team if you have to go to a guy in like a tough spot

i think cliff kingsbury is a i think he's a good coach i think he's a good head coach but he did a good job of managing his game manager today didn't ask him to do too much but they were put the ball in james connor's hands and james connor he he all he does is score multiple touchdowns and games they had some like they had a couple nice trick plays they had that big trick play that went you know like they were doing enough weird stuff to keep you like hey we're not going to just try to beat you with our backup quarterback running our regular offense kind of thing yeah so i was i was impressed and their defense is really good and the cardinals like that was if you're a cardinals fan i you watch that game you're like we have no one and we won in the division

against like a repeat opponent i don't know i thought that was a very impressive win for them i don't know what's going on with the 49ers so last week we talked about cal santa and how his win last week bought him another two games of not having the is cal shanahan on the hot seat conversation but this game was different because we could not have looked forward to this game and seen that chiller murray was going to be out but if you got chiller murray out and you got hopkins out and a j green and a j green and you still get the shit kicked out of you that's it's not like this was a close game ever no game was out of hand from the very beginning of it james connor ran all over them i always just assume that the 49ers are injured and sure they've got a

couple injuries here and there but no this is like you had a lot of your starters back in playing they just fumbled on every time they got close in the first half they had some fumbles that killed them and jimmy g i think jimmy g actually just he is the reason why a lot of his players get banged up sometimes he throws the most hospital passes well then he started quarterback jimmy g if there's if there's any type of rush it just all falls apart which i know that's whatever you can say that for a lot of quarterbacks but he like gets smaller in the pocket and just gets swarmed so the 49ers have lost 11 out of 12 home games there that's a lot eight in a row that's a lot eight in a row home games the chiefs broke the niners in the super bowl the box broke the chiefs

the saints broke the bucks falcons broke the saints falcons got a super bowl i think i think i mean it's just goes back to the patriots right they've broken all the teams technically it's tom tom oh wait did tom break the 49ers broke kyle shanahan before he even went to the 49ers right he was like the patriots didn't break the chiefs tom broke the chiefs when he beat them in the super bowl last year but he also broke kyle shanahan on a personal level yeah right but all the things you're contributing to the patriots you could technically say is tom but also the patriots broke jimmy g when they got rid of him and they chose to stay with tom brady then martel was that was that was no that was tom tom yeah tom traded him yeah tom's dad no tom tom's dad pulled an

odell beckham senior yeah and said get this son away get this kid away from my son i don't think that was just i think that was tom i think i was tom being like get this kind of fuck out of here yeah um and he was i mean he was right people were mad at the time i don't i just don't know the 49ers were head scratchers this is a game they should have won to get back in like the playoff picture and they just stinker great to see kittle back out there though he was he was balling he played well i think it's 11th hundred yard game he's a beast um i'm very interested to see if the 49ers thing does break down how the knives are going to come out like who's going to throw who under the bus first because there's going to be three guys that are going to be directly in the spotlight

cal shanahan john lynch jimmy g there's going to be like some weird politicking going on to try to like get out in front of whatever story you say the patriots can't win at home imagine being a 49ers season ticket holder i mean it's i hate when teams move like this like they shouldn't have moved this far away mm-hmm they play in santa clara they it also just proves as always in the nfl like you can get everything right and if you just don't get the quarterback right it it doesn't really matter yeah but i mean even with jimmy g they got to the supermode they got that pretty right i know but that team was very good around them too but they're broken i think the 49ers are officially a broken group of guys if he makes that pass that one pass mm-hmm that he overthrew uh manual sanders was

the manual sanders sure i think it was he overthrew him he was over everything everything changes um all right last game and then we'll get to the football guy of the week chiefs 13 packers seven maybe jordan love needs to sit a little bit more i don't know who knows jordan love he wasn't ready jor i don't think any amount of sitting is going to make him better at football year and a half he wasn't ready he's got to just sit a few more years he just sit down he needs to play less football and then pretty soon he'll be better at football this was the best this is a great it's a great game for you because this is the best game of my season because now you're just officially counting down erin rogers yeah and the end of his career with yeah and then you're like guess what for the

next you're doing the reverse when when teams are like you know what we've got our guy for the next 10 to 15 years you're seeing jordan love and you're like the packers are going to stink for the next 10 to 15 years because that's going to be their quarterback um confession time on friday during erin rogers entire uh whatever he was doing on friday given that interview and just speech yeah i don't know what it was uh keynote i may have gone on twitter and searched erin rogers tired of as the keywords just so i could read packers fans being like i'm tired of this guy and everything he brings the antics he brings are they are they starting to turn on erin rogers i oh death i think there are some packers fans they love the player but they do

like it's it's not a i'm i'm very biased but i don't think it's a biased thing to say that erin rogers does add distractions he does like he's he just has a lot of shit that goes you know in his orbit but i'd love to see those same people today after watching jordan love again maybe he just needs more time he's you know it's a year and a half that he got to sit and learn from erin rogers like he's not ready guys i was not ready i don't think you want to give him more time now you want to get him they should extend them who do you think is more upset packers fans at erin rogers are chiefs fans at jackson mahomes um i think chiefs fans have had it they're officially up to here with the whole day not just in general oh in general and he is

and it's actually really nice if you're the chiefs because you can have a lot of conversations about why your football team is kind of broken at this point because they're not and they're still like a decent team but they are very much not the chiefs right there are football reasons for it but it's awesome to just have the brother of your quarterback and it's like because he dances like an idiot that's why our team yes yes although i do think patrick mahomes is 100 in on every single tiktok video i also think that patrick mahomes should we be the ones to have the conversation how injured is he yeah what does that mean what do you mean florio got mad at me by the way for what he said that he's actually been saying it for like a month and a half and i was like yeah i

don't think you get of course what we're saying he's like because i i quote treated it he had a article uh last week that was like is patrick mahomes injured and i was like and here we go and he was like what does this mean i was like well we we joked that it's someone's going to say that he's injured he's like i've been saying it for a month like exactly like exactly that's the point is it if you're if you're steve curry and patrick mahomes you're never bad you're just yeah verbal meme it's the guy that's sweating with his hand above the two buttons and he can't figure out which one to press and one says is patrick mahomes injured and the other is did erin rogers cost himself the locker room by not getting the vaccine and he doesn't know which

one to publish oh here's a good nickname uh florio for for jordan love to shan phizer would be a good one for nice because like that's that's literally as far as i can tell yes the only reason is better than jordan love yeah but toward love is vaccinated that's the only reason why he was playing during love stunk he's so bad he's so bad the packers should have won this game yeah the chiefs are not good like the chiefs are i came away from this game thinking the same thing i thought about the chiefs they're still broken like they still just look off and the packers had so many chances and jordan love is just so bad but again extend them i think he just needs a little more time and then maybe give him a fifth year you got to see you use the first round pick on him

that's an asset you've got it in yeah you've invested enough in him where you should really keep him around for as long as possible what were you gonna say hank you don't understand what i think patrick mahomes is uh involvement with his brother's ticktocks is exactly like you guys with hard ticktock right but but he's not like in on it no i think he's just like dude i'm doing this ticktock he's like all right whatever just get like hurry up please but i don't think he actually is like angry at his brother are you got but are you yeah no yeah right he's playing he's kind of playing up the shtick of like no because everyone says online like pat pat from homes like someone never said that i know i know i'm saying that he's i think we're saying the same thing i think but i

think i think it's like you like it's like he's just like i have to like it's my brother i have to do this i think he knows his role though that he's like the curmudgeony brother right of the ridiculous he plays up to it so he's now you're gonna start seeing him in the background of more and more of these ticktocks right looking more and more frustrated on purpose as a joe now disagree disagree it's a bit i think it's a bit but those ones where he was like at the table looking sad it's a bit no but those are old yeah there's a bit it's always a bit it can be long but bill you're the king of bits it was always a bit good point yeah thank you uh yeah the chiefs think chiefs chiefs are not good they actually should have lost the game for sure if it weren't

for it turns out holding is low-key very difficult to be a professional holder in the nfl yeah um it certainly looked really tough for what's that guy's name bajorkic bajorkic bajorkic um he he was like deep in his own head with those holds terrible you could see him he was overthinking a hold which is very tough to do and then krozby started screaming at him and that whole thing went to shit but yeah the packers the packers probably should have won this game um 13 7 yeah who would have thought that the chiefs would be out here winning games where they scored 13 points do you think they gave jordan loves family those bad seats because he sucks so bad and they were hoping that maybe because he's so far away like oh from this angle he might be okay try to hide them up

there i don't know possibly they were definitely in the nosebleeds it was the very last very last seat of the very highest row in the entire stadium um i loved it i i love them i love every second if you're gonna give a backup quarterbacks family seats that's what i expect them to be so that tells me that they didn't know that jordan love was going to be starting until very recently that erin rogers uh has lied to everyone it should be in jail yes i actually did a poll um and i think it was 60 percent prison 40 percent jail so prison is worse prison is worse people said that they i think i believe in second chances so so jail i would vote jail um we gotta get the remote pack on all right there we go um yeah erin rogers should be in prison but packers covered they did

they did mr back door they should have covered because it was like they were just in this game the whole time the chiefs it's crazy the chiefs i'm i'm weirdly like i'm happy that jordan loves things i'm happy the packers lost but i'm even more happy that the chiefs won so that hopefully they can keep being favorites we can keep betting against them they are now two and seven against the spread yeah we need to start figuring out what's wrong with the chiefs in in the context of like who slept with whose girlfriend hmm that's the only story that i haven't heard come out of kansas city or someone got some else he's getting old travis kill yeah ty rick hill lost a step maybe actually i think that patrick mohomes is just way overthrowing ty rick hill a lot

yeah i don't think it has anything to do with ty rick i think that for whatever reason they're just not on the same page he's missing the easy ones that's what they're saying today he's missing the easy ones um all right how about blake bordell's though apparently gave the packers defense a great look at what patrick mohomes looks like of course he did he's a fucking teammate consummate teammate scout team all-star um all right let's do football guy of the week pft you want to quickly talk about chevy and then we'll get billy's contentious yes football guy of the week football guy of the week is brought to you this week as in every week by chevy silverado we love chevy silverado it's the best truck on the road chevy silverado it's strong it's advanced

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it's the official truck of tailgating chevy silverado all right football guy of the week billy first congratulations to our week eight winner jack sandborn who barely beat his teammate callan wilder jack sandborn was the one who played through having his bones sticking out of his finger that required stitches when he dislocated it so congratulations to them so first on our list for week nine is matt laflore head coach of the green bay packers he was at a press conference and was literally yelling at the journalists to ask him about football because all the erin roger stuff he was literally just yelling i'm not going to answer anything unless it's about football ask me about football ask me about football and it was a huge football guy moved because he also

said they were yelling all these medical terms at him and he goes i don't even know what that word or term is ask me about football so that's our first nominee for this week okay our second is dan cambell dan cambell confirmed that the eagles film was taken outside and buried yep with shovels i don't know how exactly what exactly was buried but it was buried wait do you know shovels were involved or shovels were involved sure yeah you can also confirm hand i was shovels were involved i don't know do you think that he did the shoveling or do you think he had someone go shovel for him and then he dropped it in there well exactly what he put in the pole is up for debate game film though yeah well how oh that's right yeah we were saying like did he just put a

computer in there like yeah it's on his phone and he buries his eyes like shit i need that tab they delete it someone will get it yeah he put it to the trash you know what he probably just printed out a bunch of like all 22 pictures that would be like a flip book of it yeah a flip book of the every play in the game yes yes our third nominee is corderl paterson why receiver for the land of falcons on uh if my he said if my mom could go out there and work three jobs i could go out there and play three positions why can't i do what she did for us so comparing playing three different positions just to like working three different jobs love it huge football i love that bunch pale mentality and our last nominee comes from the division two football

head coach of the university of nebraska kirney uh josh lin told his team that if they won eight games he would jump into a frozen lake and he jumped into a frozen lake after they won eight games so down to do it for his guys yep football guy down for the boys and our throwback football guy the week comes from the university of tennessee former walk-on kicker derek brodis uh was sitting in a frat house because he wasn't dressing for that game today he got the call from his coaches to come in and he told the coaches that he was drinking and he had to then get his bac lower because they were going to breathalyze him because he had to play had to stop drinking yeah so this was wait did his coach actually breath this was nine years ago this weekend whoa yeah

where were you uh nine years ago yeah 12 yeah so it was kind of a long time ago i feel like being buzzed as a kicker might make you better but he went three for three and got the game ball you didn't want to put the uh sandiego state punter on there guy's fucking insane punter as a football guy though i he might be hank said that he wants him he thinks the sandiego state punter should be a first round pick and i kind of agree with him he's an absolute weapon he he he's a weapon he has uh his average punt this year is 52.2 he punted a 90 yard punt in hana lulu on saturday night he said two punts over 80 yards he had uh he has 14 punts over 60 yards hawaii had when he was punting hawaii have never seen this from his own 10 yard line from his own

10 yard line he kicked it in as a touchback he hawaii had two returners they had a returner 50 yards and a returner 80 yards so he's like he's insane he's like over both of their heads like the greatest punter i've ever seen in my life he's like a wildcat for a punter he changes the math on defense yes i actually like hank walked in today it was like did you see that guy i was like yeah he someone should draft him in the first round and i was like that's crazy but then i thought about it it's like if if he could punt like this all the time it actually is an incredible game changer yeah matt aureza yeah matt aureza having the greatest punting season in college football history he's incredible incredible yeah i mean hell the the raiders should sign him 90

yard punt it's like it's like the guy that takes a qb first in your fantasy draft like someone someone does it and he might seem crazy but they call steven jay crazy when he created zero rb strategy 2009 allegedly he created it well he has the stats to back it up in 2011 um this guy's sick he's so good dude it's it's wild watching him punt you think that it if it's when the patriots win the patriots win the salie actually punt and they have like the 32nd pick like they always do post-soup b i think they should take them that's the perfect it's the perfect end of first round draft and he would and it would be like the perfect bellichick where everybody like well bellichick's changed the game again punting it's crazy wait he's right footed

though no wait he's he's i think that i think you throw those that that out the windows if you're kicking 90 yard bombs with both legs i saw the stat last night he would lead he'd lead all nfl punters with the punting he's been doing in in college this year 29 punts over 50 yards now he's a lefty he's a lefty so yeah beautiful patriots got him 27 punts and he plays for a perfect team in san Diego state that like doesn't have a great offense so just punts punts all the time oh yes good call good call um all right uh let's finish up with who's back of the week who's back of the week's brought to you by our friends at cash shop cash shop is back uh buying and selling bitcoin is back you can do it all on the cash shop you can also buy stocks on the cash

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my first one is darkness smiled friend oh my god that was mine too fuck it all right you can take it all pretend i didn't even say that i have one who's back that's all right oh okay only one yeah just one okay can you then come really prepared no yeah you know you know me just chilling uh and actually Liam gave me this who's back so i really didn't come prepared it is uh the mlb oh yeah they announced their gold glove winners sunday night at 10 o'clock oh yeah it's mlb season yeah yeah they they know i don't they know i really capture the headlines and just you know capture the nation get them talking about gold glove a winner it's like we were in the middle of of sunday night football i was like trying to watch

a random NBA game and it's like oh they draw it out too they like we're gonna find out who who the mvp is during monday football yeah no it goes they're announcing each gold glove like winner one per hour i think so sunday night football starting at 9 p.m and they're like congrats to max freed for winning a golden glove it's like what the fuck i'm like where is there a ceremony does it do people know that these awards are about to be announced or does rob manford just wake up he's like yeah i feel like it's about that time i should let him know it's like politics like once the it takes a while for the votes to get tabulated they're just like all right it's done yeah it's crazy the pitchers are done it's the dumbest thing ever mlb way to go uh pft uh my who's back of the week is plain

tracking so i've been tracking the lsu jet what this is this is your who's back of the week yeah yeah plain track do you want me to tell you where the lsu jet is right now hank yes all right so today it went to state college pennsylvania oh who could they be interviewing there james franklin maybe bill o bryan probably still has a house there and then it flew from there to lansing lansing michigan meltucker meltucker possibly getting interviewed by the brass at lsu wow the brass is there so i love plain tracking but um i i don't know i feel like meltucker is probably getting an interview right like that's we make jokes about who they're they're potentially interviewing in these different towns i actually think that they're actually talking to meltucker right now yes and

he'd be a great hire yeah well i know we'll talk about it on wednesday but uh quickly if if kocho wins on saturday does he keep his job no that's the whole reason why they fire but they beat out a band it's 28 i know but that's the whole reason it's like the clay helton thing at usc he basically kept on they they forgot to fire him and he kept on winning just enough games or like well we can't fire him now so if you fire a guy in the middle of the season and he gets to play out the string but you've already fired him you've done the hard work where if he wins all the games you don't have to go back on it interim ed should just travel the country filling in on a week to week basis for whatever team just fired their head coach yes yes um all right my who's back the week is darkness

what were you gonna say about it what do you mean what are you gonna say about darkness uh it's back it sucks so bad i don't know why we do it why and i feel like there's enough people can change.org or someone just be like hey let's stop doing this shit and i also don't like everyone correcting me that it's like technically that daylight savings ended yeah i don't care it's all called daylight savings it's daylight savings time it just hit and it means that we have to go to work when it's dark out and then go home when it's dark out and not ever see the sun and it sucks and i if you put it up to a popular vote i gotta feel like 95 of america's anti darkness well it's it's it's we go to work in the light we come home in the dark i there's no reason to

have it not be dark in the morning everyone likes it dark in the morning i don't sleep in a little bit more i don't feel the need to have a conversation with anybody in the morning time morning time is when i'm just like in my own head figuring out what type of day i'm about to have right at that point i don't need to be energized by sunlight in the morning it's pathetic give it to us at night leaving work at five o'clock and and having it be dark out is something that i think we can all agree on regardless of our affiliations and our backgrounds everybody hates dark in the afternoon right let's just stop doing it it sucks who who makes us do daylight savings the farmers the farmers do it yeah the farmers are the ones who did it it's true the farmers are the ones who

why there's more no because the farmers get up early and they didn't want to get up and have it be dark all morning because if they didn't switch it it would be dark like at like 7 30 in the morning eight in the morning i don't like it no i agree it sucks it sucks um i hate it fuck you fuck you god dark whoever created this just change it and again i don't care about the daylight savings technicality like people like delay savings ended who jake you seem like a guy who probably knows what this shit means why we do it yeah and like everything about it i'm pretty sure it's ended dude arizona doesn't do it i think parts of indiana i believe as well yeah i don't know that's weird free spirits i just i don't understand why farmers need to have us bent over a barrel

for them i'm sick of it agreed agreed it's very depressing all right uh jake who's back in the week is college basketball the season is here tomorrow night madison square garden the beginning of the end what you sound a little stuffed up you're sick fine allergies are you sure yeah i'm good on the eve of college basketball yeah that would be a disaster good to go okay yeah powering through what have you gotten coach k so it's the beginning of the end tomorrow night against kentucky at the garden i'll be there reporting for the benchmarks are you are you bringing him a present no what present what present do you think is going to happen a single horn it's gotta be a presentation you should bring them bees yeah yeah here you go coach

can just throw the bees at him turns out uh daylight savings time isn't about farmers it says it's a common myth whatever i'm gonna believe that it's about candles okay big candle let's finish the college basketball then i'll i want to hear from you and whatever you just found yeah um so big double hundred all right who do you have winning all oh michigan whoa okay the fab vibe okay all right not not mine not mine who is that chalk are they are they are they not pretty freaking zag is a favorite fucking zaga they're never gonna win shit who's lying i'll put my duke future in right this very second all right whose line is it anyway i'm pretty sure it's agus plus i'm gonna give everyone a future right now basketball nc double a dagus plus 650 michigan's plus 900 i'm gonna give you two

futures you're ready people duke's plus 1400 i'm gonna give you kentucky 13 to 1 just solely based on the fact that cal can't have his team be this bad for like multiple years in a row this feels like a cal year doesn't it it could be cal year because it's right in duke's face yeah and then i'll also give you our guy musk i think arkansas is gonna be really good 2500 boom um both of them probably gonna win the title i like i like michigan too parley am and ls go champions and i really do for the spelling bee will wade stole my seats get rich i'm gonna give you texas and i'm gonna give you uc la love it microna baby also i'm duke and ls you parlay them all six 16 parlay i'm now a uh bracketologist check out the barstil sports website

twice a week all right number one coming out tonight hell yeah wait you get a bracket where i got a bracket hell yeah no they're not in are you fucking serious jake dude come on jake what are you thinking jake respect they lose all the seniors potter jake like jake put wisconsin in the bracket see you gotta turn the robot off for a second you won't get a retweet you won't get a retweet you have to stay loyal to your algorithm no no yeah yeah no you don't you're at davisons back this is really good he's on year like 12 brad davison oh sorry when was that a bad thing no i'm i'm just saying you cannot compromise the integrity of your bracket jake i want you to call it as you see how far away are they from being in they're not a lennard's either they're

next four out i don't give a fuck about lennard you're your own guy you gotta be different than lennard it's so close yeah you can't make one exception for me okay i'll put them in but like that's not jake no don't do it jake don't let him bully you don't let him bully you i'm gonna smear this in your face when Wisconsin makes the tournament this year i never said they didn't oh this is november night you literally did yeah this is November 8 no the prediction they say will not make the tournament this season ended today this is not a tournament this is not a tournament this season ended today this is not a prediction everyone's zero prediction this is pick out your fundamentally misunderstanding yes bracketology no i'm not put in fucking put them in jake stand

strong they start they start off with st francis new york and then green bay and then green bay and then they've got recurring guest coach coulee next monday if they win that game are they in they are in what if they start two and oh no same francis and green bay yeah i know yeah there's strength of schedule three days pretty good the 307 income bomb oh yeah oh how dare you god damn it listen we're so they have opportunities they're nine seed oh of course they are of course they are all right billy what did you learn about candles and who's your who's back um so turns out ben franklin was first to talk about how they if they converted waking hours daylight hours to conserve candles in 1784 and then like there's a bunch of energy crises and everyone just got

on board with the same amount of time isn't it we didn't we just shift it yeah so there's more waking hours that fat fraud ben franklin he's behind this well that's like when they literally couldn't conduct business that at night time because it was dark yeah this just meant that ben franklin wanted more daylight hours to find and fuck french horrors he damn it he didn't actually implement it but it was his idea well whoever's idea was his fucking moron yeah all right my who's back the week is the nine verse seven debate uh karsen went when he threw the interception last week in the end zone actually the debate i know i know but the thing is it was it came back tonight for like a brief moment after matt stafford threw the pic it was like well it's actually

better than a safety because then it was like well nine verse seven debate it's nine verse 14 debate i don't think that anybody actually had that debate with matt stafford tonight though as a joke i think it was just billy thinking to himself like wait should he have was it actually because he threw that picture actually everyone's like the two crazy the two points isn't as bad as the turnover and then they get the ball back and then it's like you can score nine yeah but you could also score 14 if you throw another pic when you get the ball back what she did yeah so just killed that debate i mean debate over debate so wait just give me the bullet points here what what did you take away from that is it good or is it bad to throw a pic six it's bad okay noted

just don't get second hands out all right here we go numbers eight uh 90 11 97 18 i can't believe you um the whole season i can't believe you so a lot of people how dare you people think that odell doesn't work well with the browns because he freelances on routes too much and doesn't work within the system got it so that's why he's not working where he's got some ranks right now in the like what are they ranked they're not ranked in the top 25 but where do you have them ranked i need i still need to do the bubble but they'll be like give me a number i'll say first four out no give me a number then so there's the 70th well that's not how it works like champions auto auto bids and all that just give me a number if i get this number

they gotta be number one seed on your first seriously my credibility is no i don't care the number is exactly correct give me a number what are they ranked 49 okay 49 comes up you have to put them as a one seed on tuesday fair monday monday okay okay all right 66 jake a damn a group of promise me that you won't get bullied in this i want this to be it's a science being being respectful of your elders jake is being respectful of the numbers and the formula is a group of hippos is called a bloat love you guys gone

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