Pardon My Take - NFL With Brian Baldinger, NFL Trade Deadline, College Football + We Elect A President

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Starting point is 00:02:12 Download the DraftKings Pick Six app now and use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to play $5 and get $50 in Pick Six credits only on DraftKings Pick Six. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, November 6th. And I think we need to elect a president of this podcast. I vote for pug. I vote for pug as well. I was going to say maybe Hank. No, no, no. God, no. Why? But no, but we should make Hank the president because he doesn't want to be the president. Isn't that the rule you always say? Like we should find the person who? Least wants to be it

Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah My general rule of thumb is that anybody that wants to be president should never be president the type of ego that you would need To be president like it's a bad idea to let those psychos 15-yard penalty shooting you up jail What Hank's gonna Hank says lock him up me me. Yeah, you've thrown penalties at me Okay, so your president he said you'd be in prison. Hey, are you not running against me? You're running against pug Still jail though, but I can do whatever I want. You can oh, okay. All right Yeah, I think we need a president of the podcast. You think it should be pug. I vote pug in here in a landslide

Starting point is 00:03:20 big big day in The country we have the NFL trade deadline in Maxine back the first dog president has elected All right, Pugs gonna come in here. We're gonna tell him that he's president. What do you think his reaction is gonna be? I think he's gonna be psyched, but he's gonna be like what do I even hear? Yeah, we just elected a guy He's not even here. Perfect. That's perfect. The country runs itself at this point Pug is MIA. Oh, no It would did someone throw a tennis ball or something Pug is MIA. Oh no It would did someone throw a tennis ball or something

Starting point is 00:03:50 If he was just out on the court, he's just getting she's gonna tennis ball All right, so uh, yeah, they're there. We you will not get any election coverage on this show We will talk football and we also will tell pug that he's president whenever he comes back So big T asked me a question about the election. I still think we should title that episode. Yeah So Big T asked me a question about the election. I still think we should title that episode. Yeah. You want to? I kind of do. OK.

Starting point is 00:04:05 I said it at the end of the week. We already taped the end of the show, and I said we should do it. Should we do it? It's the most free downloads in the history of free downloads. Maybe not. Maybe that's unethical. What if we added it?

Starting point is 00:04:16 What if it's like Brian Baldinger, NFL trade deadline, and the fate of our country 2024? So Big T had an interesting question. It was like, what if you know, the write in line on every ballot? What if enough the country got together and wrote in the same person? And then that person ended up getting elected and they didn't want to be president to have to be president. Listen, I got duped early. I have two things I want to say.

Starting point is 00:04:40 One is, I think I'm officially you know, we're we're we're going to turn 40 in a couple months PFT or like three months. It's been rattling me a little bit but I'm okay. I'm good. I'm totally fine with it. I haven't gone out and gotten hair surgery or bought an old car or anything. Here's what I'm dealing with. I'm just having to, I'm just having to embrace where I'm at in life and unfortunately I think I'm just a guy who gets duped online now. Like a fully duped online because a guy of Jaguar's account said, remember in 2014 when Blake Bortles finished six for the Florida governor race?

Starting point is 00:05:14 I retweeted that. I retweeted it as well. I was like, yeah, of course he did. He's the fucking boat. So I'm fine with just being the guy who gets duped. That didn't happen? No, it did not happen. Well- It said 20,000 votes

Starting point is 00:05:25 I should have been tipped off then here's the thing. It had exactly tied with whoever finished in last Yeah, and it was I think it was like 60,000 votes. I retweeted it as well But I think that if enough people reach excuse me reposted on x.com the everything app It's all happening on X if enough people repost it then it just becomes the truth Yeah, so I think yes, Blake Bortles, you can look that up now on Wikipedia. I'm pretty sure it says that he finished in sixth place. I'm just a duped guy now. But I was like, yeah, Blake Bortles would Blake Bortles would be the perfect, like politician, because he would just go off vibes. Yeah, he would just be like,

Starting point is 00:06:00 whatever. Yeah, does it help people? Okay. Yeah, sure sure You know what? He's a man that can put in a plan Uh for health in america that can get us healthy again if he just does a first thing in the morning Everybody you wake up and you take a piss. Yeah for your country. Wait, should blake bordles be the president pardon my take Sure There's no way he's gonna pick up my phone call right now There's one thing i'm gonna miss from this whole Election stuff. Okay the commercials. Oh, yeah The commercials are so ready for the commercials to be done

Starting point is 00:06:33 All right, I'm gonna call Blake if he picks up. I think he's the official President of pardon my take okay guys agree with this, but what if he doesn't answer is that I what if he doesn't answer is that it's like Griffin. I think that Yeah, okay, oh yeah, and then no we could get Brooks a chance Should we just send a zoom to all three of them. Oh, I don't think he's gonna pick up there's no chance It's gonna pick up. It's back to Pug. Oh! Hey! Blake!

Starting point is 00:07:14 We're taping the show right now, and you know, it's a big day in the country. So we decided that we were gonna create a president of Pardon My Take, and we have elected you president of Pardon my take. Oh hell yes so you take the job. Oh no I have the opportunity to decline. You do. Oh yeah no I don't want that. All right. I'm VP material. Okay all right you're VP you're VP. All right because we were talking about how someone a Jaguars fan account tweeted they're like remember in 2014 when Blake Bortles actually finished six for the governor in Florida and I Got duped because I love you so much. I was like, yeah, of course he did. It said you got 20,000 votes it was completely photoshopped, but

Starting point is 00:08:01 Okay, so Your VP 15 times today. Yeah, I'm in for VP for sure. All right. Done. All right. Great. All right. We'll talk to you later. All right. See, that's a guy who should be a politician. That's perfect. Yeah. Like, oh, I can decline. All right. So pug is president and Blake Portals is VP. Yeah. So the stat that I accidentally reposted my finger slipped. It says that he got 20,066 votes for governor in the year 2014. I just believed it. I was like, I think that's just I was blinded by my love for our vice president, Blake Bortles. It could happen. Yeah, think about it. We have Pug. Pug. We've decided we started the show, you know, everyone's in the election mood So we decided we need a president of pardon my take and you have been voted as our president

Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm honored pug Perfect. Yeah, that's in no portals is your VP Okay I'm in But okay, okay. What kind of policies are you bringing to part of my take? in but okay what kind of policies are you bringing to part of my take hmm free popcorn machine that's not these needs to be loaded up okay okay max on the couch Now we're getting to some fucking fiery policy Max and Hank share the cat. I like that. That's fine with me. Would you put yourself in Max's spot. Yeah. Yeah. And then Shane will be OK.

Starting point is 00:09:35 He'll be in here. I don't hate that. I don't. Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh Oh, what do we got going on? Now, okay. All right, Pug. You are. You are now president. Blake Portals is VP. Thank you for accepting this very important role. I appreciate it for all the data. BUL is all the pugs. Okay. All right. Should we talk some football? We got the business out of the way. let's talk football

Starting point is 00:10:08 We shot Monday football real quick, and then we'll get to the NFL trade deadline the Chiefs are Perfect on the season they are going to play every game the exact same way where you think the Chiefs might lose And then they're gonna be perfect on third down and they're gonna get a big defensive stop and patch from home is gonna make a play Oh, and yeah, Travis Kelsey still alive. Yes still a lot very much alive. Yeah, I think the oh, yeah, there we go That Mike out Patrick my homes yeah, that's just what they do and Deandre Hopkins obviously that was his coming out party and I was impressed like Baker is the man. I can't stop rooting for Baker and the Bucks because he's just he's a gamer He's just gonna be in every game gonna will them to try to win these games

Starting point is 00:10:50 Todd bowls is the biggest fucking coward in the world. He pulled a Billy Napier God what a loser. It's a loser move. So you're going up against the Chiefs You're decimated by injuries Baker just went out there and like bled all over himself for three hours You somehow got yourself in position where you can win the game, score a touchdown, and then you have the opportunity to go for two on the road, Monday night football gets an undefeated team, or you can kick an extra point like a coward, go to overtime and think that you can win an overtime against literally Patrick

Starting point is 00:11:19 Mahomes. Yeah. And, uh, you decide to kick the extra point. Now, I saw somebody that posted like what the official stats were, and this is where, Big Cat, you and I need to separate ourselves from the stats group. From the nerds? Some people are saying that we've become nerds because of the whole 14 points go for two thing. That's just math. That's just the one thing that we know about and understand. That is simply the only analytics that I'll ever understand,

Starting point is 00:11:43 so I'm going to talk about it constantly to make people think I'm smart. That and beer before liquor. Yeah. That's analytics too. And don't, don't swim if you've had tuna fish sandwich. Yeah. Good point. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:56 Don't swim 30 minutes after eating. Yeah. 30 minutes after eating and pulling out is good birth control. Yep. Okay. So here's what the official numbers are. The winning percentage if you go for the point after touchdown, 42.8%.

Starting point is 00:12:10 The winning percentage if you go for two after, if you go for two after that touchdown, 41.2. So 41.2 for going for two versus 42.8 for going for the win. So they're saying it's safer by 1% to kick the extra point. Got it. Here's why they're wrong. Here's why the nerds are wrong. It's fucking Patrick Mahomes on the other side.

Starting point is 00:12:35 It's the vibe check. You're fucking Patrick Mahomes. This is where, like whenever we have these arguments about analytics, I think we're actually two of the more like honest and grounded people when it comes to analytics are important. You should use the math in your advantage, but vibes are very much important and like time and place matters. Yeah. Too many people use the word analytics as just a word for a number that they don't like. Right. And I'm all for you. You, you, you are without Mike Evans, without Chris Godwin, you've taken the chiefs to the limit here. You have one play to win the game.

Starting point is 00:13:13 Just go fucking run that play. And I don't like, if you, if you don't get it, that's the other thing is like, I would just rule every, every decision that you're making as a coach is if it fails will I be blamed? I wouldn't blame Todd Bulls there. I was thinking go for two the whole time Just try to win the game if you don't get the two Hey You at least you went out on the field instead of the would I be blamed what I like to do is I like to imagine What a fan of the other team doesn't want me correct and then I do that thing correct So if you were to ask any chiefs fan what don't you want the Bucs to do they would say I don't want

Starting point is 00:13:49 them to go for two on this play because I would love to take my chances in over to first of all you get a coin flip to start out so that's 50-50 and then you have Patrick Mahomes on the other side so even if you go down kick an extra point gives me kick a field goal you still have to stop Patrick Mahomes from scoring a touchdown. Now in this case, you want to imagine what the other team does not want you to do. And it's a no brainer for that. Like you've, you have the opportunity to beat the chiefs on Monday night football without giving their offense an opportunity to touch the ball. Now there, there was some time left too. And that's because Todd Bowles made a terrible decision. He called

Starting point is 00:14:22 timeout. He called a timeout. You'd like some of that time to tick off because then yeah You would end up going up by one then kicking the bolts in my homes And then he gets four downs and he doesn't have you don't factor in punting if you're the chiefs on that office, of course But still you go for two in that situation. You try to win the game right there We yards win the game Liam Cohn's a great offensive coordinator like the fact that he has the Bucs Still looking like a very competent offense with all their injuries Liam Cohn's a great offensive coordinator. Like the fact that he has the Bucs still looking like a very competent offense with all their injuries. I don't know, like K.Dotten just gets schemed open

Starting point is 00:14:53 on every play. It's crazy. So the defense, the chief's defense is gassed. You have a great offensive coordinator. You have a gamer in Baker Mayfield who can run it in or throw it in. So you can do an option on that play. Go for two. And Todd Bowles, it's when a coach gets to a point where they're losing and they're losing in a stupid way that I just get so sick of their face. I'm so sick

Starting point is 00:15:15 of Todd Bowles' face. His little like, where he squints his eyes when he's looking at the field, he looks like your like grandparent or parent who's reading a menu that refuses to get glasses. And you're like, do you need help? Like, can we read it for you? He just keeps squinting at the field. Like if I squint hard enough, it will look different. Todd Bulls wants them to turn up the font on the downside. Yeah. Is that a three or is that a four? It just, I, there's something about his, like I just, I've turned on Todd Bull. I mean,

Starting point is 00:15:44 I was never a big Todd Bowles guy, but This Bucks team fights so hard and Todd Bowles. You're a coward. Yeah, you're a cowardly move And the Bucks very easily could have won that game. They played well the Bucks were in there the whole time They were playing hard on defense and I love Bucky Bucky's the best. Yeah, how can you not root for a guy named Bucky? Yeah, Bucky Irving shot white scored. How can you not root for a guy named Bucky? Yeah. Bucky Irving, Shob White scored. I have a question about Patrick Mahomes. Is he the heir apparent to the Big Ben fake injury? Because Patrick Mahomes gets horrifically injured at least

Starting point is 00:16:18 three times a year, and then he's totally fine. OK, so be honest. In the moment after it happened, when he's getting carried off the field, they show the replay a couple times What do you think I thought Achilles or knee it was non-contact? I was watching the game in bed actually and I was like, ooh non-contact That's actually way worse and my wife was like why and I just felt like the dumbest person ever I was like, well if you get hit like, you know, you break bone, but like non-contact, you don't know what happened. Total non-answer

Starting point is 00:16:47 for me. But obviously we've always learned that non-contact is way worse. Because if it's not contact, then it's probably a ligament or tendon. Probably. But if it's a bone, you might, you might get lucky and it's just a high ankle sprain. I did not have a good answer for that in the moment. I was, I just completely crumbled under pressure. But yeah, I thought it was Achilles or knee or like they said, maybe even his hip. I thought it was Patrick Holmes is done. I was like Carson Wentz is going to, I was to the point where I was like Carson Wentz probably went to super bowl. So I got mad. I got so mad when they showed Carson Wentz warming up his eyes in red. Yeah. I was like, this motherfucker is about to

Starting point is 00:17:21 get on the field, force me to watch him play, which brings up big time PTSD. Yeah. And, uh, I, and be successful. Yeah. And I, I was prepared for that. Carson looked very nervous and, and he's probably, he's probably thankful that he didn't have to go in, uh, cause he is like in the co-pilot seat to potentially win a Superbowl this year, which is kind of his thing that he likes to do. But the relief that I thought I saw in Carson Wentz's face, it's like if you're in an exit row on an airplane

Starting point is 00:17:49 and it crashes and you're like, oh, I gotta get up and get everybody off this plane. And then you wake up from that dream and you're like, oh, it's not real. That's what Carson Wentz felt when Mahomes was like, I'm just gonna run this out on the sidelines. So he was fine after getting carried off the field. Like he wasn't putting any weight on his foot whatsoever. In that shot where he was, they were celebrating and he was sitting down

Starting point is 00:18:10 and he looked up and he was just like, not good. I was convinced he was done for the year. And he does, he does do this. I don't know. I think he's got, you know, they always show his stretching and how he does these weird stretches in the off season And he does have that little bit of dad bod. I think he's just indestructible. Yeah, he's gumby. Yeah, I Did we ever find out what could have potentially been the injury? Yeah They said that he had he was working on a ankle sprain God that he was I don't know if he was listed or if they were giving him a treatment before the game for that But he had an ankle sprain, you know how sometimes if your ankles fucked up and then you just step, we're old, but like you'll just take a step and step on it all the time. He did that like times a hundred where he

Starting point is 00:18:51 stepped on it and re aggravated it. And then he was like, okay, nothing's actually wrong with it. Yeah. Yeah. Andy Reed should have actually given Carson Wentz a game ball and been like, Hey, in those, in those like 90 seconds, you didn't piss and shit yourself. You're ready to go Good job, I don't know. It's just for the bear. You didn't run away from us. Good job Carson I just closed my eyes, leaned back and saw the picture Carson Wentz with the like 107 ducks that he shot. I just assumed it was gonna be like the NFL is scripted Carson Wentz obviously was playing an MVP level the year that he gets hurt Nick Foles wins the Super Bowl Patrick Mah gets hurt. Carson Wentz wins a Super Bowl. That's what's gonna happen. If Wentz went and he

Starting point is 00:19:28 would have cooked. Yeah, he would have won a Super Bowl. And we would have just been like, Carson Wentz won a Super Bowl. And then all the Taylor Swift fans in the world would have like fallen in love with Carson Wentz. And and and it would have been all right, who would it have been? It would have been, all right, who would it have been? I'm trying to think. Not the Saints, maybe the Saints. I'm trying to think who would have then signed, maybe the Giants would have signed Carson Wentz and he would have absolutely sucked.

Starting point is 00:19:54 He would have won a Super Bowl. The Giants would have been like, Carson Wentz, our starting quarterback going forward, and then he would have gone back into a pumpkin. I think maybe the Raiders. The Raiders, yeah, the Giants and the Raiders. One of those, maybe the Titans. like one of those teams would have signed them and he would have sucked Colts really jets. The jets cars would have signed Carson.

Starting point is 00:20:14 We were robbed of the Carson Wentz story arc. I'm not ruling it out. No, I'm not either. But yeah, so that was, the chiefs are just just they're so fucking good there and they do it in such an efficient Like they never look flashy anymore I think that we'll talk to Baldy about it because he he pointed out that Deandre Hopkins changes that but they just You can't make a mistake against them and it just doesn't matter if there's a third down in eight Patrick Holmes is gonna get it. Their defense is also incredibly good really really really really really good yeah uh okay yeah it's kind of weird because I feel like the Chiefs they're not the best team in the NFL but they will be the best team in the NFL they're the time makes sense the team no one would want

Starting point is 00:20:55 to play in a playoff game because I would think they would win every single playoff yeah which they have they have not lost the game since the Raiders Christmas Day game or the day after Christmas last year they've not lost a game since the Raiders Christmas Day game or the day after Christmas last year. They've not lost a game. They won their what? Last two games of the regular season, then won all their playoff games. Now they're eight and oh. So they're eight and oh. Who's going to be the first analyst to get on TV and say, is this the worst eight and oh team that we've ever had in the NFL? It's not though. I know. They had way worse. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:23 They're winning games because they're good at football. I think if they went undefeated, people would be like, this is the most uninspiring undefeated. But they're not winning games because they're doing gimmicks. They're not winning games in like blowouts against bad teams. They're just winning games because they do everything very, very good. They just win games. So they have the Broncos next and they have at the Bills. If the Bills don't beat them, I don't know if they have a loss until the Texans and at the Steelers at the end of the season.

Starting point is 00:21:51 That's what Sean McDermott should do. Sean McDermott should hire Paul Rudd to sit next to him on the sidelines and be like, Paul, should I go for two here? What do you want as a fan of the Chiefs? Yeah. And then make his decision thusly. Yeah, just go off of that Alright, so we talked some NFL trade deadline PFT Are the commanders all in I'm thinking soupy. Yeah, I'm thinking soupy and we talked March on Latimore Obviously got traded the commander's huge huge. I mean, that's a great trait. It's a good trade We we gave up a third round pick and I think we swapped the fourth for a fifth So essentially what Adam Peters did was he he turned Dotson into Marshawn Latimore,

Starting point is 00:22:32 which is a pretty good magic trick. Not exactly. Well, yeah, because we got a fifth back as well. Well, he actually did better than that because the third that we gave up is going to be a much worse draft pick. But you gave up an extra pick. But the third that we gave up is going to be a much worse draft pick. But you gave up an extra pick. But the third that we gave up is going to be a much worse draft pick than what we end up getting from that trade because you had Miami's third rounder.

Starting point is 00:22:51 But you just said you swapped a fourth and a fifth. We swapped a third and a fifth. Okay, so we swapped a third and a fifth. Correct. So you gave up more picks. So wait, me and you swapped a third and a fifth. Correct. And you added a fourth and we added a fourth to the Latimore. So, but I didn't get a fifth back from you. Is

Starting point is 00:23:10 that what you're saying? We got a fit. We got to start. So, so, so PFT gave Max Johan Dotson and you can have Max gave PFT one third round pick. We got Jahan Dotson and a fifth. And you gave up a third. We gave up a third and I think and a seventh. Okay, forget the seventh. Correct. What you then, so you traded Jahan Dotson and got a third round pick.

Starting point is 00:23:37 You traded Jahan Dotson and a fourth for Marshawn Latimore. I got. That's what it is. I got Miami's pick for Max. Miami's third round pick. I'm confused. So then what did you trade for Marshawn Latimore?

Starting point is 00:23:49 We just traded our third round pick for Marshawn Latimore. And a fourth? And we swapped. And a fourth. A fourth and a fifth. We swapped a fourth and a fifth. But we also got one of your fifths.

Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah. So it's Jahan Dotson and a fourth because it was the same trade plus a fourth. So it's Jahan Dotson and a fourth, because it was the same trade plus a fourth. OK. So it's Jahan Dotson and a fourth. I still like it. So the reason why I- And you're not mad at Matt.

Starting point is 00:24:12 No, I just wanted to clarify because he was saying things that were incorrect. OK, so what I love about the trade is I still have no idea how to evaluate cornerbacks. I don't sit out there grinding film or anything. But I do trust one person more than most and that's been meant yeah, and been meant gave me a breakdown a full breakdown of Marshawn Latimore and He said lockdown number one physical good length will tackle

Starting point is 00:24:38 Competitive got a couple more years in his prime still pretty fast hated Dennis Allen oh that's the big one for me yeah Dennis Allen got fired which we we happened after we recorded on Sunday night yeah we got the Rizzler now yeah we got the Rizzler Rizzy uh that was that was that was due to happen but yeah the commanders look like they're all in yeah the other the other teams that were interested in them were the chiefs i think the 49ers so other competent organizations those are all in teams are going for him so i'm happy our defense is like middle of the road ish and with Latimore, it would, it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world. If the commanders want to Superbowl. I'm not thinking about,

Starting point is 00:25:13 I'm not thinking soupy, but it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be crazy. I was looking at the schedule and this and the standings. I think you guys could be the one seat. Yeah. I mean the lions have to play the NFC North. The lions are a much better team than we I mean the Lions have to play the NFC North the Lions are a much better team than we are But they have to play the NFC North. That's why that's why these next two games For the commanders are that's why I asked the question I was not trying to trap you but if they go to know in these next two games Their schedule is not that difficult one seeds right there. It's right dealers in the Cowboys

Starting point is 00:25:42 Or sorry the Steelers and the Eagles in the next two weeks are very big games. If you go 2-0, that changes everything. Now I think that's down to 1-1. 1-1 would be great too though. I'm saying like, that's, yeah, it's right there. Is the game in Pittsburgh? The game is at home. I mean, it's Pittsburgh, so they just get on a bus and George Soros pays for their ticket down to DC and then they go do the thing. Yeah. All right So what other trades we had? We had the Lions get better. So Zedarius Smith goes gets traded from the Browns. He's now on his third NFC North team. Mm-hmm I saw the Packers traded Preston Smith to the Steelers Steelers also got Mike Williams from the Jets memes

Starting point is 00:26:24 Where do they get in for Mike? What like it. Steelers also got Mike Williams from the Jets. Memes, where are they getting from Mike Williams? What kind of players is Mike Williams right now? What do you got, Memes? He didn't do much with the Jets, but Russell Wilson loves deep ball, and Mike Williams is a deep ball threat. So he didn't do much with the Jets. Okay, so you don't care about giving him up. No, not really but Allen's art is on IR

Starting point is 00:26:48 So Mike Williams did fill a hole there, but young guys got to step up young guys got to step up So what other trades did we have that were consequential to tell like it's white. It's ravious white got traded from the Rams to this Dealers who got today? No All right here we got the whole list traded from the Rams to the Steelers? Who got Trudevius White? No. All right, here we got the whole list. Trudevius White. I'm looking for his name. He's on the Ravens. Ravens. Okay. So I mean, a couple teams and then obviously Deontay Johnson got traded last week, which was big. And then Schefter posted yesterday that that DK Metcalf will not be traded. Contrary to speculation.

Starting point is 00:27:29 Oh, that is how I learned about DK Metcalf potentially being traded was Adam Schefter saying that he won't be traded. Got it. Yeah. Oh, also Khalil Herbert got traded from the Bears and then tweeted Thank you God. Yeah, I would like to make a statement now that I've had a little time to have the dust settle and watch DJ more seemingly quit on the bear season and

Starting point is 00:27:52 met Eber Fluss be a moron. I think I'm just I think I need to just let go and just give up and I See what you have PFT in new owners and I think I just I can't I can't let myself get my hopes up until there's new owners which will never happen so that just never I'm just never gonna change. It makes it makes a big difference. They're never gonna hire someone they're never gonna hire an alpha male they never want a guy who's bigger than the organization since Dicca. So it's yeah, I'm just down bad and Caleb Williams is gonna get ruined. Drake Mays gonna be better.

Starting point is 00:28:32 Jaden Daniels already better. Who else? Bo Nix is better. Michael Pennex is gonna be better. They're all gonna be better and I'm just gonna be I'm just back in the whole cycle. So what is on Sunday? Patriots? Yeah. You have the opportunity to bury Hank's dreams though.

Starting point is 00:28:47 But at this point I saw a report that if there was a report which the Bears have never done, they've never fired a coach in the middle of the season, over a hundred years history, there was a rumor that if they lost to the Patriots then Mattie Bufous would get fired. So now what am I rooting for? Yeah, that's a trick question.

Starting point is 00:29:04 I think you gotta be rooting for Hank. If you could guarantee that he would get fired. So now what am I rooting for? Yeah, that's a trick question. I think you got me rooting for Hank. If you could guarantee that he would get fired, I would never root against the bears, but I would at least have something on the other end if they do lose that. Yeah, but Caleb, let's say Caleb goes out, throws three touchdowns, no picks, 290 yards and the defense just breaks down against Drake May. You'd be okay with that. It's all, it's all relevant. I listened to Matt Iberfluss's.

Starting point is 00:29:27 They all fucking, he's a loser. I listened to Dweeberfluss's press conference live and it's bad. He is not a good coach. No. Nothing about the man inspires confidence. It was crazy, because I was getting mad for the city of Chicago.

Starting point is 00:29:42 I was like, this shouldn't be on the public airwaves here. This is obscenity, listening to him talk and just say the most innocuous coach cliches that he could think of to answer any given question. He was like, yeah, I think we got to do a better job running the football and we got to stop the run. This time of year, stopping the run is important and it starts with me.

Starting point is 00:30:04 He said, it starts with me again. It starts with me. What are you going to say Hank? From the troll couch? Not the troll couch. I want, I don't, I don't want the Patriots to win this weekend. I don't think I, I, I'm going to be rooting for the Patriots because I don't think they would fire Matt Eberfuss win or lose.

Starting point is 00:30:19 I, that was a rumor, but I don't, I do, they're such cheap owners and they won't do it. I know he's a friend a friend of the program, but I Feel like when you're doing as bad as he is getting funked up was looks so much worse Matt Eberfluss. Yeah. Yeah, like he got the poofy haircut. He's not a friend of the program by the way. He came on once Okay, let's not let's not get crazy. No, I'm just gonna say he looks He looks for take that out of your mind that that was yeah No, I'm talking about funk, but oh funk is a friend of the program. Yeah, he's still a friend of the program Yes for the listeners who's funk again funk is the barber who cuts most of the hair for the Chicago Bears But he and he is a friend been in this office the hair before the season and and it looks ridiculous now

Starting point is 00:31:04 And he is a friend in this office before the season and and it looks ridiculous now I've said it's not worried about your hair. They did they did it with me about the end of yeah that that I mean you say That to a quarterback that cares more about like how they dress that guy Matt Eberfluss He should spend more time sitting in his playbook in less time in the bar But probably not because he's dangerous in his own playbook the they did it with Mitch Trubisky obviously Mitch Trubisky is drafted John Fox is the coach they fire John Fox after one year then Matt Nagy comes in then they draft Justin Fields fire Matt Nagy after a year Matt Eberfluss comes in they drafted Caleb Williams kept Matt Eberfluss they're gonna fire Matt Eberfluss after a year I've done this speech a million times but it's the same old same old bullshit and basically they're

Starting point is 00:31:50 like hey all we got to do is get our head coach funked up and everyone will think that everything's changed and nothing is facelift it's bad so I'm in a dark dark place but I'm happy for you guys you You guys have some good organizations you get to root for and fun things coming up and it's just... It's strange. It's honestly, it's strange for me to be looking at transactions that we make and be like, I think that they have a plan. Well, yeah, that's the thing. The crazy thing is like Jaden Daniels is, he's so good at football, at playing quarterback that he actually made our secondary better. But it's not, Jaden Daniels is very,'s so good at football, at playing quarterback that he actually made our secondary better.

Starting point is 00:32:26 But it's not, Jaden Daniels is very, very good at playing football. If you had Dan Snyder and Jaden Daniels, it wouldn't work out. Oh, Jaden Daniels. That's the point where I came to that realization in the last 24 hours where I was like, why am I thinking that it's going to be different? It's the same people running the same dumpster fire over and over. We're going to do the same thing year in and year out. Didn't tell us we were going to win a Super Bowl though.

Starting point is 00:32:51 In 1985. It's been a while. If Dan Cider was the owner of the commanders. And they should have won more and they didn't. Then when Jaden Daniels got his rib broken, it would have punctured his heart and he would have died on the field. That's the vibe that having bad ownership that yeah that Having bad ownership will give you it's a six-switcher Find it in the barstool store starting on Thursday. It's almost a comforting feeling though Cuz I'm just not gonna I've reached the point where I'm not gonna fight it I'm not gonna fight it until the offseason. I'll fight it again. I'll be like, oh, yeah new coach this fucking guy

Starting point is 00:33:20 We're gonna hire we're not gonna hire Ben Johnson. We're not gonna hire Liam Cohn We're gonna probably hire like the offensive coordinator, or no, maybe the defensive coordinator of like the Panthers or something and be like, well, he's next up. And I'll get myself really excited and I'll do the whole thing and I'll get pumped. And then they'll finish like nine and eight or 10 and seven maybe, maybe. And then I'll be like, oh, next year's year. And then they'll draft Archman and they'll draft another guy and then they'll fire the

Starting point is 00:33:44 guy we just so all hope optimism is gone until July. That's it. Yeah. No you can still do it. You can still go on a ride. DJ Moore. He's quit. He doesn't like Caleb. It's bad. Bad news. He's a field guy. He's always a little herbert left and said thank thank you God. He tweeted thank you God. Yeah. What do you do about D.J. Moore going forward. I would trade him. How can him and Caleb play in the future. Don't know Max. It makes no sense to me. I like maybe something will change and I don't. I like D.J. Moore seems like a great guy. He is a very good receiver. Something has been off this year and you can't pretend that that's not the case. You can't just be like, I could look over it after the Texan stuff, weird shit, you know, like body language.

Starting point is 00:34:35 But this one I'm just like, it's, it's, it's, I don't know. It's, you can't, you can't look past it. There's too many isolated incidents. Right. Correct. Where something is up each one You can look over individually, but all of them together means that there's gotta there's gotta be something up And I'm not blind to it. Yeah, he misses old buddy

Starting point is 00:34:52 I think it's as simple as that like he was never gonna love Caleb No, he just thought Caleb and he got his money, which I'm happy. He got his money again I don't it's not like a personal thing. I like DJ more the person I like DJ more as a receiver in theory. DJ Moore on this team this year has been something maybe just woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Do you think Khalil Herbert is the first person to thank God for moving to Cincinnati? Yeah, probably. I think maybe in history, right? Yeah, that's probably it. And then we also glossed over the biggest move of the trade deadline. Jerry Jones. Yeah. Made a move. The Cowboys are still all in. Oh, did not

Starting point is 00:35:29 sign Pam Oliver. He got it. He got was Jonathan mingo. Yeah, from the Panthers. Yeah. So fourth round receiver from Panthers. Jerry said that they liked them a lot in the draft. So basically, Jerry Jones has been stewing on not getting mingo for the last what two years. Yeah? And so he finally righted that wrong. And now I guess Trey Lance has another target. That's huge. Massive.

Starting point is 00:35:52 Trey Lance. Is it going to be Trey Lance? No, I think it's going to be Cooper Rush. But also Jerry said on his radio hit that he goes on every week and gives up way too much information about his personnel decisions. He said that it's going to be Cooper Rush, but also Trey Lance brings a lot of stuff to the table that you can't get from Cooper Oh, so I wouldn't be surprised if you saw Trey Lance make his way in on some plays couple Trey Lance packages some Trey Lance packages You need to just you need to punish them max you need to beat them by a billion. Yeah

Starting point is 00:36:18 I mean Cooper this has to this has to be a spanking it has to be you have to rush put them over your Yeah, you got to put them over your knee and you got to spank them Yeah, I know for 60 minutes at Jerry world will still always scare me a little just spank them max Spank the fuck out of their team. That's begging begging for you to put them out there like daddy. Please spank me choke No, they're saying choke me out. Yeah, I'm hoping that we spank. I'm hoping that we spank you got a smile confident that we spank. We got you got a spank AJ Brown. Good news from the MRI. What's the good news? No structural damage looks like just a bruise. That's good. Just a bruise. Just a bruise. I look

Starting point is 00:36:57 forward to him. I'm I'm only fusion as some may say I'm bummed out that we already played the box because Marsha and Latimer against Mike Evans is always fun. That would have been fun, yeah. Because they just rip each other's throats out every game. Yeah, okay, anything else from the NFL world that we missed? I don't think so. This is a great quote from Jamar Chase today.

Starting point is 00:37:16 They asked him about getting ready for Thursday night because it's gonna be Bengals and Ravens on Thursday. And this is from our good friend Ben Baby in Cincinnati. Love Ben Baby, we gotta get get Ben baby on he said, they asked him if it was like cramming for a test in school, getting ready to play on Thursday night. And Jamar responded, I didn't study in school. Love that love love that Cardell Jones LSU baby. Yeah, I didn't come here to play school and come here

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Starting point is 00:38:37 I don't think that's true. I still think that Caleb's going to be a good quarterback, but Pennex probably not. Pennex probably not. Probably not because it's not against against kale but I still believe in kale Williams the quarterback I do not believe in the Bears the organization breaking moves breaking moves max I mean this is the NBA has suspended Philadelphia 76ers Joel Embiid for three games for altercation shoving a columnist in a postgame locker room. He's

Starting point is 00:39:12 not playing the next three games. Wait why isn't he playing? Because he's recovering from a meniscus injury. So the NBA's investigation into Joel Embiid not playing in the first several games has been usurped by the NBA suspending Joel Embiid from playing for three games. Yeah, it's the Domino meme. Make that memes. It's the first Domino is Marcus Hayes writes a column about an investigation into Joel Embiid not playing. And then the big domino is Joel

Starting point is 00:39:46 Embiid can't play for three games. Per the NBA. I'm struggling to follow that. They literally were like, hey, here's an investigation that they're not being correct about these injury reports that Marcus Hayes writes his article. Got it. And then the article ends up with Joel Embiid pushing him, which we stand by him, and be that is and now Joel and be can't play three games But he also wasn't gonna play him because he's hurt. It's like getting suspended from school for skipping school Cool, I mean the yeah sure I feel like they were like, yeah, he'll probably be back after the next three games So let's just suspend him for the next three games. So that are you sure about that? You sure he's gonna be back after the next three games. I'll be back. Did Paul George play well. Nope. Oh

Starting point is 00:40:30 It's okay you got the clip. Wait, are you one in five? What we are you one in five? Have you never started going on? We've never long never we've never talked about the NBA this much this early. I see I did I didn't see a very I think It was from Kevin O'Connor. Oh no, you guys are one in five! He posted. We haven't talked about the Bucks for a second. We talk about Tankathon a lot, but I've been on there a lot,

Starting point is 00:40:51 because the Patriots and sometimes I click the NBA section and the Sixers are three right now. They're right now. Trust the process. Cooper flag watch. You're trusting the process. If we got Cooper flag, it'd be crazy. Kevin O'Connor put up a very interesting post

Starting point is 00:41:03 the other day about how bad the Clippers are and how things could go from bad to worse for them and if the Clippers somehow lucked into the Like a top pick in the lottery, you know who gets that pick the Oklahoma City Thunder. Oh So if the Clippers are bad enough the Thunder could also get Cooper flag Wow, Pelicans have the Bucks pick and the Bucks are in dead last right now. Whoa. Yeah, that would be devastating. Who could have seen the Dame Lillard trade not working out? Oh wait, I did. Bucks fans got very mad about that. That's way. And now they have, there's rumors, yeah, like the Yanis to New York. It's back. It's crazy. It's crazy. But if they don't have their own pick, why

Starting point is 00:41:45 would the Bucks trade Yannis? No, they would never, they should never trade Yannis under any circumstance. Yannis gives you a chance. You just got to figure out another way. And the Cavs, shout out to Cavs since we're doing NBA talk. They're eight and O and they like keep winning in crazy ways. Uh, okay. College football, college football. We have our first rankings out. We're recording this the afternoon. The rankings don't really matter this early with the new college football playoff setup

Starting point is 00:42:12 because you're gonna get the automatic teams in. So, you know, the four highest ranked conference winners. And then there's so much shit that's gotta shake out. Like this week we actually have true elimination games in LSU versus Alabama a mini elimination game in Georgia versus Ole Miss because if Ole Miss loses they'll be out but the big story so so you want to do rankings first I what your guess is? I'm gonna guess that Indiana fans will be pissed off. Indiana fans have every right to be pissed off, because Indiana should be ranked ahead

Starting point is 00:42:47 of Ohio State and ahead of Texas. Indiana's undefeated and you could say, well, they haven't beaten anyone. True, but if you go common opponents for Ohio State and Indiana, Indiana beat Nebraska by a million, beat Michigan State by a million. Ohio State did kill Michigan State, but Ohio State struggled Nebraska. So at this point, if we're just doing blind resumes, and if you were to just flip flop, if you just imagine Indiana football with the Ohio State Buckeye logo next to it.

Starting point is 00:43:18 And if you look at who they've played, if Ohio State had played that exact same schedule and they had the exact same results, Ohio State would probably be ranked what? Number two in the nation? Yeah. Well, so maybe not just because Ohio State, I'm not, I think you should just like as a personal like belief, the undefeated team should be ranked ahead of the team with a loss no matter what the schedule is. Like at this point in the season, knowing it doesn't matter because they're going to

Starting point is 00:43:43 play each other. Yeah. Ohio State's argument, which I understand they have the best win out of Ohio State, Indiana and Texas. Cause those three are going to be lumped up somewhere. They have the best win out of those three best loss. They have the best loss as well. So they lost by a point to Oregon at Oregon and then they beat Penn State at Penn State. So Ohio State does have the case to be I just want to see Indiana higher than Ohio State in Texas. Yeah, because they've been demolishing teams. Yeah, what you're saying is at this point, the great loss is better than a good win. Well, and they also the committee, they go like data points and

Starting point is 00:44:21 Ohio State's win at Penn State is better than anything Indiana's done. Yeah. So they'll, that's why they'll do it. I just, especially the first poll that is utterly meaningless because we're gonna have so many games that figure this shit out. Just reward the teams that are, that are undefeated. There's a lot happening today in sports, isn't there? Yeah. Like I feel like a day like today, election day, the college- Election day's over, pug. Pug, yeah. But election day, college election is over pug pug. Yeah, but election day college football playoff And NFL trade in action and maxion you just have to believe that major league baseball is gonna announce some award at low Yeah, no, 930 p.m. Tonight. So youngs coming right they're gonna they're gonna try to put that out and get absolutely buried Yeah, I I do think that Indiana should be ranked higher that said I think that when they match up

Starting point is 00:45:03 I would not be shocked if Ohio State beat them by a couple scores. Yes, I think it's going to go. So I think they're, I think they have to just guess with, I don't know how they are. They just doing the rankings and not the bracket because the bracket obviously has to get figured out by the conference winners. Either way, it's gonna be Oregon, Georgia, Miami and BYU as of right now are going to be the, the, It's gonna be Oregon, Georgia, Miami and BYU as of right now are gonna be the, the, the conference winners, uh, that you could guess. Big 12 is chaotic. Big 12 has many things. BYU should get undefeated to the big 12, uh, championship game, but that thing is chaotic. And then it's going to be Ohio state,

Starting point is 00:45:39 Texas, Indiana, probably Tennessee, Notre Dame, SMU, SMU should, I mean SMU has a pretty, they have one loss to BYU who's undefeated and they beat Louisville on the road who was a ranked team and they beat Pittsburgh, killed Pittsburgh this past weekend. Yeah, the ACC is going to be interesting because I don't know, it looked like it was going to be Clemson Miami the whole way and Clemson just dropped a fucking egg against Louisville. They got sonned. They had no one in the stands at the end of that game. It was crazy.

Starting point is 00:46:15 And they also were running Donovan McNabb offense. Yeah, because they were they were down like three scores and they were the play clock was going to like four seconds. Kade Clubnick was puking. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. So I, yeah, I think SMU, they could be like number anywhere between eight and 11. Yeah. And I wouldn't be shocked. And then Boise State will probably be the G five team, but there's also, I mean, two lanes out there. Army still has a chance. Uh, there's a, there's like 20 ish teams that are two losses or less and have a chance at this thing. And it's pretty fucking awesome. So you know, I love doomsday scenarios, right? Yeah,

Starting point is 00:46:50 the doomsday scenario last week, now no longer possible brand new doomsday scenario, just dropped. If Texas loses to Florida, Georgia loses to Ole Miss Florida, but they're on the third quarterback, they have been playing a lot better. They've been playing better. Like it would be nuts, but it wouldn't be crazy. I think they're quarterback they put in on Saturday against Georgia was a transfer from Yale, I want to say. Imagine that. They look good. Imagine being.

Starting point is 00:47:17 That was a great loss, actually. Yeah, but imagine being the Yale quarterback and then having to get into the Florida, Georgia game in Jacksonville. That's, that's an insane, insane wave, like a difference in competition. Yeah. And just difference in vibes in a city, everything New Haven to Jackson. Yeah. All right. So, all right. So Texas loses to Florida, Georgia loses to Ole Miss, LSU loses to Alabama, Tennessee loses to Georgia, and A&M then loses to Texas later on. Then the regular season would end with Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas, and Texas A&M in an eight-way tie for first place in the SEC. And I think through

Starting point is 00:48:00 all those tiebreak- Missouri's going to lose again. They might. But if all those things happen, then I believe it would be LSU and Alabama again in the, in the sec championship. That would rock. Eight way tie. Yeah. I'm rooting for it. And then you'd probably have, there might be two or three sec teams that are ranked higher than the sec champion that ends up getting a buy. Just love all these doomsday scenarios. Yeah, it's awesome that so many teams are still alive right now. And like I said, the rankings don't matter this early. But we did have, so this past weekend we had the big 12 just do what the big 12 does, an absolute chaos.

Starting point is 00:48:42 Iowa State losing, which they could still get in but one loss Iowa State they don't have a great strength schedule Kansas State catching their second loss now it's BYU undefeated and Deon Colorado owns their destiny they do have a tough tough game at Texas Tech this weekend but if they win game, they like Deion in the playoff would be incredible. And Big Cat, do you think that there's any chance that the college football playoff cares about ratings? Yeah, I think they might. Do you think that if a team made the playoff and one of their players played both sides

Starting point is 00:49:21 of the ball, 120 snaps. That might be an interesting storyline for Heisman. I'm worried about Camp Ward. Camp Ward is really, really good. Miami's offense is probably unstoppable in their defenses. Miami's just going to be in fun games. Miami SMU would be an incredible ACC conference. I would, that game would be, I would take the over at a hundred. I would predict that if Colorado and SMU are anywhere close in terms of resume ESPN is gonna be like we need Colorado. We need that. They have to win out though Yeah, cuz that's the weird thing what happened with the big 12 this weekend is they probably Fuck themselves

Starting point is 00:49:56 In being a two-bit league because if BYU goes and wins the whole thing It's just gonna probably be BYU. Yeah. BYU would have to run the table, then lose to Colorado or an Iowa state in the conference for them to have a chance to two teams. And kind of similar to what happened in the ACC. If Miami runs it and beats everyone, they might only get one. So it might just become the big 10 in the SEC. I have a question for you, big cat. Yes. Can James Franklin win the big one? No. Well, that was, that was the last thing I had is, uh, things that we need to talk

Starting point is 00:50:30 about. Wait, let me finish. So Ryan Day, can he win the big one? Uh, if it's against Penn State, yes. So is that a big one? Did, did Ryan Day just win the big one? Because I was thinking about the transit property, the big one. And I think that Ohio state is Penn State's big one. Yes. But Penn State is transit property, the big one. No. And I think that Ohio state

Starting point is 00:50:45 is Penn State's big one. Yes. But Penn State is not Ohio State's big one. No, no, no. Penn State is Ohio. Yeah. Ohio State playing Penn State. That's not a big one for Ryan Day, but it's a huge one. It's everything for James Franklin. 10 out of the last 11, same story every single year. They get in that game. They have recruiting classes on par They have the talent on the field Except they never have like game-breaking Insane like wide receivers or guys who can who can win one-on-one like Ohio State does because Ohio State always has wide receivers I think Penn State even has a while state transfer at wide receive

Starting point is 00:51:24 wide receivers. I think Penn State even has a while state transfer at wide receiver. Yeah, he's not very good, but he was like a story going in this game. Yeah, I'm going to use this guy a lot because it's a revenge game. It was that in a and Will Howard not being recruited by Penn State. It's like, well, he he's not, he went to Kansas State first. So it wasn't, but uh, cause he's from Pennsylvania drew hours also Ohio, Ohioio ohio guy yeah uh and then james franklin after the game uh gotten an altercation with a fan uh max do you think that you should get rid of james franklin at penn state no do you think he's hit his ceiling because yes that was if you were going to beat Ohio State at home pick six

Starting point is 00:52:08 to go up 10 nothing like that's you. That was that was on a platter. They'll never. I don't want to say it couldn't have started better for them. Well they and then they play next year and they don't. With the new Big Ten they don't play each play Ohio State again for another like four years great So James Franklin's fine that that game was over on the interception in the end zone that somehow the Ohio State defensive back caught I still know half. I mean he's got to catch that ball Trey Wallace has got to catch that ball. Also. I forgot Will Howard He fumbled out of bounds into the end zone. So you got that too and Also the end of the game. Yeah. I mean that, that was the worst.

Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah. And that was the part that I think would drive me nuts if I was a Penn State fan, because all you heard all off season was you got Andy Cotlin, Cotlin Nicky and your offense is going to be explosive. And they get to a point where all they have to do is get three yards and they ran the same play up the middle for nothing. That shit sucks. And then they, and like, why would you not, why not do, I don't like Wildcat. Tyler Warren.

Starting point is 00:53:14 Get him the ball. You can't tackle the guy. He's a beast. Just fucking snap it to him at least once. And then you run it three times. You get it to the one and then you decide to pass if you're gonna pass Pass on one of the earlier. I know I hate the run run run pass You're gonna run stick to the run. Yeah, because it also is very like expected like just Pass on second down. Yes, they were doing that weird shit where they had their their linemen split out wide put them in motion to do Absolutely nothing. No, no. That was so frustrating. Well, that's what they did in the goal line play.

Starting point is 00:53:47 They did it three times in a row. They had the linemen come in motion three times in a row for no reason. To not do anything. Yeah. To lay the softest block that you've ever seen. And then. You know what they did?

Starting point is 00:53:56 They had them coming in motion. And when you see the Niners do something like this, you know Trent Williams is about to get out in front and be like a lead blocker on a smash play. They had him come in and contribute to a double team. That's why they put him in motion. It made zero sense. Also, I love Ohio State safety. Caleb Downs. Yeah. Caleb Downs from Alabama. Caleb Downs is a fucking monster. And then Ohio State has a bunch of backup offensive linemen. They have the ball on their own four on their own one with four minutes

Starting point is 00:54:25 to go and then they just run for seven yards to carry every single time to ice the game. Yeah. So what we can take away is that Ohio State, they are good enough to be the big one, but they're not big enough to win the big one. Yeah. Okay. Well, and they will win a fake big one this year because he'll beat Michigan. Yep. That's a fake big one. Yeah. That's a fake big one this year. So James Franklin got to keep them. I there's, there's no other option. That's what everyone keeps saying is that it's frustrating. He is, he is a good football coach. He puts them in a good position in the college football landscape that most teams would like to be in. But he'll never be he'll never get to that eight year can I can never get to the

Starting point is 00:55:13 I throw out a name with Pennsylvania roots that I said a lot of nice things about this school earlier so they can't get mad at me if I throw this name out there. Oh, I know what you're gonna say. Kurt signetti to Penn State. I think he's from Pittsburgh. Oh, I know what you're gonna say. Kurt signetti. Penn State. I think he's from Pittsburgh. I don't know where he's from. Yeah, his, his dad, I think was the coach at Pittsburgh. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think he's probably gonna get like any job in the country. I think I think this might be his last job though. I disagree. He's already I think he'll save maybe for a couple years, but that someone offers him. He's gonna get like a billion I'll tell you what. Um, I think I said it last year at the time Alabama should have hired him

Starting point is 00:55:55 He was an Alabama coach. He was I still think Kaila D'Avora is a good coach. She's just yeah, but uh, So Jay, I agree with you. I don't think you can get rid of James Franklin they essentially this this entire playoff expansion was Like going to a roller coaster and being like you have to be this high You have to be this tall to ride the roller coaster and then Penn State kept on showing up and they weren't tall enough And instead of growing they just made it a little bit shorter. So now they're gonna get into the playoff That's essentially what happened to them this year. They have to win a playoff game. They have to win a little bit shorter. So now they're gonna get into the playoff. That's essentially what happened to them this year They have to win a playoff game. They have to win a playoff game. They might have a home playoff game

Starting point is 00:56:29 The way the schedule works out it look they very well could have a home playoff game. Why awesome white out No, no white out the white outs this weekend, but you're not gonna white out a playoff game You wouldn't white you wouldn't double white out. I don't think you can't what do you mean? You're I don't know do whatever you want. This is you got a you got a white out a play. I got a double white out a playoff game? You wouldn't double white out? I don't think you can. What do you mean? You could do whatever you want. You gotta white out a playoff game. You gotta double white out. I don't know if you can double white out. You can double white out. They do double renegade. They do double renegade. If so facto, if you can do double renegade, you should be able to do double white out. I mean, what is the most James Franklin possible outcome to this season? So they make the playoff, they host a playoff game And then they beat like a wildly inferior opponent

Starting point is 00:57:09 So they would they're not gonna get the five seed They won't get the five seed, but they will Most likely get if they went out they should get a home playoff. Yeah, but top eight seeds Yeah, they'll be like eight or nine. Yeah, but I'm just right around I'm trying like Tennessee and get smoked Yeah, yeah But if you could if you could pick like your choice of the worst of the at-large teams Then you beat them and then you get smoked in the second round by a good school That would be like the quintessential James Franklin

Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, good season, but and the Bears hire Cliff Kingsbury and then the USC hires James Franklin Or not, Cliff Kingsbury Lincoln stinking Riley. Thank you. Thank you. Best case scenario be playing like BYU Yeah, BYU though. They're men. I think Penn State would be yeah, they're men man. Fubi. Why you's gonna get a body 27 Oh, right BYU wins out wins every game. They're there a bye Well, they don't even need to win out right? They just need to win the the big yeah

Starting point is 00:58:12 Yes, well, I Don't know what's happening my throat there could be like Tulane or Who else army if army wins out they could be a top four. Yeah, they play Notre Dame Either way Penn State James Franklin It's just the same story every single year. It's not a bad story either Well, it is it's I think it's a pretty good story compared to what it could be Yeah, I freely acknowledge. This is loser talk Like I'm looking at this from

Starting point is 00:58:45 a perspective of if you're not rooting for, you know, perennial, like top five team in college football, but Penn State is like the best of that next group. They've won national titles. They have recruiting classes that are on par. They're not like a Wisconsin. They should be. So I think in that perspective it is a sad story. When was the last national championship? The eighties. Yeah. It's been a while. Of course. But I'm saying like they have the it's also a recruit. Like I know it's hard to get people to go to happy Valley but like Pennsylvania and the Ohio region like that is a that's a good football region. So yeah. They should. James Franklin like win the fucking big one. I mean

Starting point is 00:59:23 it shouldn't be the same as getting people to go to Columbus as it is getting people to go to Happy Valley just Ohio State pays more money and is better at it Columbus is a city too, but happy I get I guess but it's like Yeah, I never buy that anyway. Yeah, I don't really buy that like Penn State is an awesome college town Yeah, and like a great place for college kids correct Yeah, and then I get a shit then they get a shit load of pros and it's just, he just can't win the big one. Can't win the fuck. They didn't score a touchdown on offense. They had a fucking the code of Nikki. I just like saying his name. Uh, okay. Yeah. Uh, South Carolina. Awesome defense. Yes. Fun school that that is a team where like Shane

Starting point is 01:00:05 Beamer's got him. He was on the hot seat I think last year a little bit but like they they have if a couple bounces go a different way they could have been a playoff team this year because they they almost beat LSU got kind of screwed. They were they took Alabama to the wire. That's a good football team. Yep. And that a fun, fun place on a Saturday night too. That crowd like when I turned on that game, I bet South Carolina, I know that Texas A&M ended up coming back a little bit in the first half, but the way that game started, I've never, I was just like, all right, nice. I want to know how different schools became the claim holders to very popular songs.

Starting point is 01:00:44 So like, you know how Michigan is now like we were the Mr. Brightside school? Yeah. We invented Mr. Brightside. South Carolina having all the rights to Sandstorm is fucking awesome. I think that, did that just happen because of Beamer? I think that happened. Virginia Tech was Sandstorm. No, you're Inner Sandman. Oh, Inner Sandman, that's what I was thinking too. Yeah, Sandstorm the the like techno song Yeah, it rocks. But yeah when it's at night and they turn on say they did it first actually I remember the clip when they like first did it so I think they were just the you know the first to recognize sandstorm

Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah, what does Penn State have the oh? zombie nation Pinsay has Drake? Why? I don't know if it was a Drake song. Oh. I think that they'd have Gary Glitter. Okay. Hey.

Starting point is 01:01:30 Rock jams. Yeah. Jock jams. Jock jams. Sweet Caroline. Sweet Caroline would be a good one for Penn State. Jock jams. Now this is music.

Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah. You know they're still putting out jock jams? They're still putting out now. I think so damn That's now that's what I call music. Yeah. Yeah, there's like 50 of them to jock jams change the game Yeah, by the game. I mean like now that's what I call school in between innings or little league in between innings 89 they're on now. That's what I call music and it's now just streaming. That's kind of sad needed in CD That's how it goes. Yeah, get the jewel case going. Yeah. So wait, what did what did James Franklin do to a student? He just got in a verbal disagreement with a fan. I don't know if it was a student

Starting point is 01:02:14 or an older fan, but it was a bad luck. He smashes phone. No, he didn't smash his phone. Like you lost that game. You knew you were gonna lose that game. You always lose that game Don't act surprised just fucking get into the tunnel. Mm-hmm But yeah, he like stopped and like had a conversation with the guy No, he was some guy was chirping at him and then he asked what what's your name? And then the kid ran away switch. I don't blame the kid for running away I move by the kid but also such a narc move to say what's your name? Cuz he's gonna James Franklin kicked out of school

Starting point is 01:02:48 Yeah, James Franklin cannot be shocked that fans will chirp him and say fire James Franklin after he loses for the tenth time in 11 years to Ohio State That can't be a shocking thing. He can't be like what the fuck didn't you see me beat USC? What does that understand that he's like pissed off? But you can't if you're getting paid the amount of money that James Franklin is getting paid just fucking go go to the tunnel dude yeah be like Nick Sirianni attack your fans after a win yeah to be like see see no I'm the I I'm the opposite I think that it's what Sirianni did was worse than

Starting point is 01:03:20 what Franklin did getting mad at fans after a win Yeah, yes, I think that show is like nice like good. Fuck you energy. No well He chose that sirianis got fucking not rocks not when it's a win against the Browns We're like yeah barely squeaked away with that win, okay? Sir, I just got some off with him. I think he's a good coach since he shaved his head I Just think he's just he's got some off. I think it's all that all that hair was fucking him up. I think Sirianni is like when he's like if you had a window into the Eagles facility I think some days he's screaming some days he's like crying and asking for hugs like just emotionally everywhere. We just keep going back to my team. Yeah sorry okay

Starting point is 01:04:02 all right. I got something different that's not about Max's team. Okay. I'll save for Hot Seat Cool Throne. All right. Let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne. It's presented by Core's Light. No matter what happens between your favorite rivals this week, you've got a chance to win. Just go to the PMT Instagram and tell us how you prepare for a rivalry game with Core's Light for an opportunity to win the Core's Light rivalry shirt. Five winners will be selected every Saturday until 12,-7 December 7th. So remember when rivalries get a little overheated, choose chill and keep things cool by reaching for the mountain cold refreshment of Coors Light.

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Starting point is 01:05:09 So I guess Ryan Whitney also on the hot seat. Yeah. So you really threw Ryan under the bus pretty big on that because it was Hank source for a while and then we gained the walls and then it was actually Ryan Whitney is sourcing. He's telling the walls. I never reported it. Yeah. So what do you think the walls got wrong in the story? I Don't know I don't know what Ryan Whitney source said I think it was probably you know, pretty Iffy Evidence and kind of just hearsay which is why you know a journalist or someone with you know higher integrity would not report such a thing

Starting point is 01:05:43 But I think it was probably just a rumor that obviously was not true. Hmm So so what are the walls saying about him being back? Have they given an update like what happened? The walls have gone at my oh, okay, so to run away from the story. Yeah, got it It's good thing you never put your name on this That would have been really bad. I know really bad. I know We would have had to have our president Pug put you in jail. Pug would love to put me in jail. Yeah. I like that Pug's just been there for the rest of the show. I love it. I kind of like you there. He's president. He's president. But get Pug on the couch. Keep and watch. You know, any complaints that we have about the show, I'm kicking them directly

Starting point is 01:06:23 to Pug. Yeah. Okay. Your cool turn. Oh, my cool turn was John Morant. Yeah. That was You know any complaints that we have about the show I'm kicking him directly to pug yeah Okay, your cool turn on the cool those John Morant. Yeah, that was pretty cool twice very cool And it's just kind of you know people forget that he's he had a long ass suspension He's back so Hank can't hand over the listener that you want to explain what John Morant did Yeah, explain what he did you got hurt though to Right, but he hasn't played in yeah, yeah, but it was the hurt that was last year. Yeah, it was hurt. How long was suspension? Remember He last night five games. He but he also got hurt. Yeah, yeah he last night had a

Starting point is 01:07:00 360 layup, which does not give it justice to how sick it was. It was probably the most athletic impressive play I've ever seen. He switched hands. He went up with his right did a 360 and then switched to his left. And it was like a 360 around a defender stayed in the air, switched to his left hand. Yeah. He did a 360 no scope. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to be be I would have liked to see him dunk it. I disagree. In fact watching this layup this now would have been sick. I think they should do a layup contest instead of slam dunk contest. Dude if he dunked this though I mean cuz he I mean it would be he basically have to defy

Starting point is 01:07:39 all gravity to dunk that. It was sick. John Moran's awesome. You know I liked watching the layup though, it's because I thought to myself like it with enough practice, I could possibly do that. Yeah, also not true. Not true. But it still made me think. Yeah. Okay, John Moran, cool thrown back. All right. Good job. Good job, Hank. My hot seat is bubble teams. Because college basketball started last night. Yeah. And Cooper flag. I've seen enough. I think he's a legit player

Starting point is 01:08:06 I can I can report that Cooper flag good at basketball and Joe Linares also put out his first yeah field of 68 I saw that and he included bubble teams and the first four out so Joe Linares before any basketball has played his first four out our Villanova shit Max we look good last night kinda in the second half first four out Wisconsin ah first last night I feel like I'm in the second half I feel like Leonardo

Starting point is 01:08:37 put out this entire thing just to include Villanova in Wisconsin and piss you guys off also yeah he definitely did this on purpose. He also has Providence as his first route. And he knows that the Providence Twitter is going to just absolutely roast him. And he's a sick, sick savage that likes getting choked out. So he was like, yeah, yeah, Providence, I'm going to kick the hornets nest on you. Yeah. Also Providence had a duck in their student section. It was awesome. Hashtag the duck. Yeah. Providence Twitter isfeated. So I still need to do the interview. We will do I've Told Josh our Booker to when Providence comes and plays to Paul the king Kim English We need to get him in studio. So we'll do that. My cool throne is North Korea

Starting point is 01:09:17 Oh North Korea back on the cool throne. I don't know if this is true But this is a very funny story very funny report from Gideon Rockman. He said, a usually reliable source tells me that the North Korean soldiers who have been deployed to Russia have never had unfettered access to the internet before. As a result, they're gorging on pornography. Ooh, so North Korea sent a bunch of soldiers to go fight on Russia's side in the Russia versus Ukraine war. Yeah. And I don't know if the North Koreans are ever going to get there because they're

Starting point is 01:09:49 all jacking off because they get to see porn for the first good for them. That's all porn is the great equalizer. Yeah. We used to talk about how no two countries with McDonald's have ever fought a war against each other. Yeah. It's actually just two countries. I'll allow with bang bus membership have never had a war against each other. Good for them. Good for them. Yeah. That's the way to, that's the way to solve world peace. Yeah. Just get it. two countries with BangBus memberships have never had a war against each other. Good for them. Good for them.

Starting point is 01:10:06 Yeah. That's the way to solve world peace. Yeah, just get an access to you, Jizz. OK, my hot seat is us. And it's just because I had one of those self-reflecting moments, the mirror, like looking in the mirror, being like, oh, shit, I look stupid. This whole election coverage today, especially with the, the election,

Starting point is 01:10:28 everyone, uh, tweeting confidently as if they know something when they don't know anything. It made me realize like, this is exactly what I do with all my gambling picks and holy shit, am I an idiot? Yeah. Like people just tweeting being like, I, like, this is great for this candidate and I know it's gonna be a win no you fucking don't yeah it's politics are sports for people who aren't good at sports and who are just I like how do they not even watch sports yeah I don't get it they only get us they only get a sports game once every four years mm-hmm imagine if we only got one football game once every four years so they get preseason every two years. True, true.

Starting point is 01:11:05 But either way, I feel stupid. Imagine a one game season. How much would that one game mean? That would rock. And then you overreact to how good your team is because you won your one game. It would mean everything. And then my cool thrown is the Yankees and Garrett Cole,

Starting point is 01:11:19 because that was very funny. Garrett Cole reportedly opted out of his contract because he had a clause where he could opt out and the Yankees would have to add a year and like 36 million. The Yankees basically called his bluff and were like, okay, fine. And go ahead. And then Garret Cole's like, just kidding, I'm not going to opt out. So he opted out of his opt out. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I like that. Just very funny that he, I mean, maybe Brian Cashman's growing a set because he was just like, not going to opt out. So he opted out of his opt out. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I like that. Just very funny that he, I mean,

Starting point is 01:11:46 maybe Brian Cashman's growing a set because he was just like, yeah, go ahead. You think Brian Cashman- Should have covered first, dude. Brian Cashman was climbing a building somewhere and got a text being like, Hey, he's opted out. And by the time he repelled, he's like,

Starting point is 01:11:57 Hey, he opted back in. Yeah. But it was, yeah, Garret Cole. He just immediately was like, ah, can I get that opt out back? I don't want to do that. So he's still a Yankee and we have the one Soto sweepstakes starting to heat up Max and everyone I Think he's gonna get seven. Yeah. No, I'd like to walk that take. Yeah. There we go I think he's gonna get a stupid amount of I think it's gonna be insane

Starting point is 01:12:21 But the fact that the way he's going about it just means that like, yeah, it doesn't he doesn't give a fuck who's giving him this money. Yeah, not at all. He might pay for it. Like if Saudi Arabia started a baseball league, he might end up there. It would be very funny if someone I don't know what team it would be. Maybe like the diamond or like what if the pirates are like, hey, we're not going to actually keep them for this entire time. But let's just sign it just for one year yeah we'll trade them I took a wager on the Draft King sports book of any other team I feel like if there was ever an any other team it would be this one cuz and who

Starting point is 01:12:55 was who is the Phillies were in the any other team but there's also okay there was who was in the other side I have it Yan. Yankees, Dodgers, Mets. Here, let me pull up a... I have a screenshot of it. Because I... Any other team. The Dodgers, that would be very funny. Okay.

Starting point is 01:13:14 It's the Yankees, the Mets, the Dodgers, the Cubs. Who? The Blue Jays, the Nationals, the Giants, the Red Sox, the Mariners, the Padres, the Tigers, and then any other team. I don't know about that Max. Yeah. Well the Phillies are any other teams, so that's why I'm asking. I mean there's a lot of other teams in any other team.

Starting point is 01:13:35 There's so many other teams. And there's a lot of rich guys that own those other teams. Yeah. That could just decide, let's make a splash. Tigers would be a fun one. Tigers would be a fun one. They would be. Actually, you know what? I'm calling it. I think that one soda will be signing with the mid East Falcons based out of United Arab Emirates in Abu Dhabi. It's a league that's

Starting point is 01:13:55 opening up next year. He's in, that's where all the money is. He's in. Uh, okay. Let's, uh, let's do our interview with Brian Baldinger. Great time with Baldi and then we wrap up with listener submitted roasts, which were great. We'll get to Baldi in a second. He's brought to you by the farmer's dog. We all love dogs. They complete us. It's so true.

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Starting point is 01:17:09 Baldi, week nine, halfway point. I'm happy to have you here because we love talking ball with you. I want to ask the first question is the question that I think is probably the most important question in the NFL right now. How the fuck do you stop the Detroit Lions on offense? Uh, can you play, can you play with 12 men? Can you find an extra guy? Seriously. I feel like every team is a man short. Green Bay was a man short last week. Their offense line, it's a battle between Detroit and Philadelphia who has the best right now.

Starting point is 01:17:40 But you know, Peney Sewell can move. I mean, you could just put a piano on that guy's back. He'll take it up 18 flights of stairs for you. He's just a different, difference maker, but they just have the perfect combination right now of Montgomery, who's your mutter and closer, Jameer Gibbs, who's your home run hitter. And Oh, by the way, Jared Goff doesn't miss an open receiver. So they're, they're pretty much unstoppable on offense right now. And I don't know what defense is out there right now that can keep them under 30 points

Starting point is 01:18:13 at this stage. Yeah. I guess the formula would be just don't let their offense on the field. Just if you can- Yeah. You play keep away. Yeah. Run the football. Play keep away is one way to do it. Or limit the number of possessions, you know, where you can limit them to seven or eight possessions because they're going to get Jamison back. And J Mo, you know, from anywhere on the field, he's just maybe as good a home run hitter

Starting point is 01:18:37 as there is in football. And so he's coming back, which is even going to make them more dynamic right now. Yeah. And what do you think about the trade? So they bolstered up their defense today. And so now it becomes even harder to do anything against them. Well, sometimes you need the right guy, right? Like Zedarius Smith to me is, he's a guy that you want in your building. You got a smile on his face every day. He's a tireless worker. I mean, he's not Aiden Hutchinson, don't get me wrong, but he has that culture to him. Like he was drafted by Baltimore.

Starting point is 01:19:12 Like everywhere he's been, like he adds a little something, something to the team, his work ethic. He is a good pass rusher and he's a tireless worker. Like he's going to fit in really well. They need that right now. That was a good pickup. There was other guys out there, but said areas is still playing a lot of snaps. He's not an aged veteran where you just put them on a pitch count and send them out there.

Starting point is 01:19:36 Like he's, he's a legitimate every down player right now. Yeah. We were talking about this on a, on Sunday night, but missing Aiden Hutchinson feels like the lines they're going to miss him for sure, but missing Aiden Hutchinson feels like the Lions, they're going to miss him for sure, but they're still a good enough team to at least appear right now to be the class of the NFC. But the problem would be if their defensive line suffered another injury and they're already down Aiden Hutchinson. Now what do you do? So I feel like by, by doing this move at the trade deadline, they've just made themselves a little bit safer.

Starting point is 01:20:03 doing this move at the trade deadline, they've just made themselves a little bit safer. Yeah. Look, but they gave up 400 yards of offense to Tennessee the week before. They didn't look like a dynamic defense. They lost Brian Branch last week during the game. Kirby Joseph took his place. I mean, leads the league in interceptions. He's had 14 in the last two and a half years. I mean, nobody talks about Kirby Joseph on the back end, but I feel like, Hutch was a big part of the pressure that forced quarterbacks to throw the ball up to your free safety, let him come down with it. But they're still talented. I mean, Aline McNeil and DJ Reed are inside,

Starting point is 01:20:40 it's tough to run against those guys inside. You can skein pass rush a little bit, but you're going to be a little vulnerable on the back end. So that just makes a lot of sense. I mean, it's the arms race right now. You're going to see a lot of teams make moves. I won't be surprised to see Genevieve Clowney get picked up by a good team, you know, right now, whether it's receivers, whether it's defense alignment, you know, guys that change the game right now, I think are going to be on the move here sometime today. Yeah. Yeah. It does feel like there's going to be an active trade deadline. All right.

Starting point is 01:21:12 So the other team, I have it right now. It's obviously the lions are the kings of the NFC right now. The chiefs are undefeated. The chiefs, I feel like when watching the chiefs, people are, are frustrated because they don't look dominant, but I think they're just as good as they've ever been because they play great defense. They can run the ball when they have to, and they also are just insane on third down. It's essentially like every Chiefs game, they fuck around and then third down comes and they figure it out. What is it like it like if you're an, an AFC contender and you're looking at the chiefs, is there something that can be exploited or is it like

Starting point is 01:21:49 these guys just keep doing the same thing and Patrick Mahomes is going to be there in the super bowl in February? Well, they don't just keep doing the same things. I mean, Deandre Hopkins makes a difference. Yeah. You know, I mean, look, he's been there two weeks. He's catching two touchdown passes. You know, it's third Nate and my home's throws it. Like the good thing about my homes, he could care less about his stats. Everybody will talk about nine interceptions and like he threw the ball into triple coverage last night, Deandre Hopkins, he already trusted him to go up and get it.

Starting point is 01:22:18 And there's Antoine Winfield Jr. back there, the highest paid safety in football. And he's looking at his glove like he's got a hole in his glove. Well, hop just took it away from him. So, you know, he scores two touchdowns last night. They take the drive in overtime, right down the field, 10 plays, 70 yards. You know, if they want to run it. Because some teams can't run it when they have to run it.

Starting point is 01:22:38 Well, Kareem hunt ran 20 times for 90 yards in the game, winning touchdown in the second half last night. If they want to just be a power running football team, they're as good as anybody. If they want to throw it like Travis Kelsey the last two weeks, he's got 28 targets and 20 catches in 190 yards. If they just throw it to Kelsey and nuke right now, they're going to be just fine. Yeah. And then they go get Josh Ushay to rush the passer.

Starting point is 01:23:04 I mean, they know exactly the weaknesses, what they needed to address, and they've done it. And so they've got the best player in the league, the most creative coach in the league. They're ready to three Pete right now. Yeah. What do you think about Xavier Worthy? Because we all know he's fast. We all know what we saw at least like week one from him.

Starting point is 01:23:22 He's fast. The man is fast. You can definitely say that about him. I don't know if he's a great football player right now, but he's at least a threat in theory that he's going to go downfield. Would you consider him to be a guy that's going to affect a defense at all just because you have to know that he's there? He's like a chief gadget player at this point. You can run him on some reverses like they did in week one where he got a touchdown off a reverse. You know, last week, the last night, you know, I mean, for him not to get his feet in bounds right there

Starting point is 01:23:52 is ridiculous. I mean, that's just lack of awareness. And maybe he's just young, who knows, but it's just hard outside of Tyree Kill, honestly, it's hard for a small guy to be a dominant player in this league. It's just too easy to cover them up. All these corners. Look, Worthy can run a 4-2 in the 40 or 4-1-8, the combine, whatever it was.

Starting point is 01:24:14 But every corner can run in 4-3. So if you're a 6-1 corner and you're covering Xavier Worthy, you're not going to get a lot of separation. You're just not. I mean, you're going to get these 6- one corners just shadowing them. It's going to be hard to get them the ball. And that's what you see. That's why they keep going out to get guys. Go get me. I'd rather have a big power forward than a small power forward any day. Give me, you know, six foot four nuke out there over a five, 10, you know, Xavier

Starting point is 01:24:42 worthy at this point. Yeah. So in the AFC, who do you have second behind, uh, behind the chiefs right now? Is it the bills? The Steelers look really good. The Ravens? Well, you got to consider the Ravens right now. I mean, they're, they're going to, they meet next week in Pittsburgh. I'll be doing that game like that. That game is just played differently than every other game in pro football in

Starting point is 01:25:04 today's world. Like it looks like I expect Troy Palamolo to walk out and Ray Lewis to walk out. I anticipate just like literally just full screen collisions. It's just different. It's just violent. It's so much fun. Like I wish everybody could just be on the sideline for that game and just hear the collisions. It's going to feel like a NASCAR pile up.

Starting point is 01:25:26 But you gotta consider Baltimore, you gotta consider Buffalo the way they're playing because they are an excellent running football team right now. And they use all three backs and Josh Allen, the way that Joe Brady is putting this offense together, they just create so much space to make easy throws, whether it's to Coleman or whether it's to Shakir or to Kincaid, it doesn't matter. Like they're creating space. And then Josh can create his own offense when he needs to. And so you have to consider Buffalo. So Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo for sure. And I don't want to count Cincinnati out yet. They just made a move to get a running back. Because Burrow is just gonna, he's just a flame thrower.

Starting point is 01:26:11 He's an assassin. He's just gonna keep firing until they get this thing right. And they're still in it. So these games are gonna be big down the stretch. They're in a crypt. But if anybody can come out of a crypt, it's Joe Burrow. So you mentioned Cincinnati. They picked up Khalil Herbert from the Bears. I have to ask a difficult question about the Bears because it's ugly right now. And Khalil Herbert also said thank you God when he got traded. So that doesn't feel good.

Starting point is 01:26:38 So the tape, I actually watched some of it on Monday, which I tortured myself. What is the fix for me? And you could tell me if I'm way off, but it does feel like Caleb Williams is pressing a little bit where there's some easy stuff underneath. Take the, take the ones that give you and a lot of home run stuff. And I don't know, like the locker room feels bad. Everything feels bad right now. Is there something on tape that you're watching that you're like, this is how they can maybe write the ship a little bit. Well, some of the things that they do defensively, first of all, I'll get to Caleb, but like, you know, Dean Mercado goes 50 something yards, you know,

Starting point is 01:27:16 with 20 seconds to go in the half. I don't know what defense they're in. I don't know. They're glistening on the play. Like it's 20 seconds to go in a half. Just like the week before against Washington, you just give, you know, uh, Terry McLaren, you know, 13 yards of field position with from six seconds to two seconds to throw the Hail Mary. Yep. Like it's just, something's just missing there defensively because they're a good defense.

Starting point is 01:27:39 They just give up these plays that they shouldn't give up. Yeah. Then offensively, like you can't take anything away from the cornerback play of the Arizona Cardinals. They deed up every receiver, DJ Moore, they deed up, you know, Keenan Allen, they deed up Aroma Dunezay. They were all over the place, those defensive backs. And so I give Arizona a lot of credit and then, you know, Buddha Baker,

Starting point is 01:28:01 his blitzes and timely blitzes. And then the offensive line of Chicago, honestly, like they're not very good. They're, they're very average. Um, when they run the ball really good, the offense looks a lot better like they did when they had a little wind street going and that kind of, you know, they lost the left tackle against Washington and then they lost Jenkins against Washington. They got these backups in there.

Starting point is 01:28:22 You know, they had this kid Armageddon from Yale, the third round pick. I mean, they didn't even dress them last week. He was so bad against Washington. He was an inactive player. So you know, they, they don't have good depth there behind the five guys and the five they have are just an average group right now. Yeah. It's bad.

Starting point is 01:28:39 It's ugly. You mentioned the Bengals. I think this is as close as you'll ever see to the Bengals being all in on a season Because this is the third trade that they've ever made as a franchise in history They've only trade for three guys and it was for a backup run and it was for a backup running back This is the bank the Cincinnati Bengals ladies and gentlemen are all in right now I wouldn't say that Mike Brown throws money at any Yeah, not really their style in Cincinnati. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:29:06 Yeah. You know, they lost Zach Moss, you know, I don't know how long he's out for. That he was, he was there starting running back. Um, you know, so, you know, they got Chase Brown, who's a good back, you know, and Cleo Herbert, I never really understood why Chicago wasn't playing them. I thought he was a really good back with Montgomery there. Um, he's had really good days in his league and he's not playing. So they went with Roshan Johnson.

Starting point is 01:29:28 So he's fresh as can be. He hasn't played at all this year, but I think he's still a good back. He's a good contact runner. They want to be able to balance things up a little bit. So, you know, if you put Khalil in there in that offense with Chase Brown and you get T Higgins in that receiving core with Jamar like offensively they're capable of putting 30 up on anybody.

Starting point is 01:29:49 Yeah. And then on the NFC side of things, ball, do you watch the tape? You, how much tape are we grinding these days? Oh, every game, every game, every week. When are you done with every game? Like what time of the week are you done with every game? Um, well like I got a little headstart on Sunday because I did the Eagles game against Jacksonville. So I was able to come into my office here at NFL films after the game and get a start. So usually it's 15 hours on Monday and it's 15 hours on Tuesday. And I try to get all of them done by Tuesday night, but sometimes it leaks into Wednesday. That's awesome. Like, you know, honestly like every like there's bad teams in this league Obviously Darren Rizzi is taking over for head coach in New Orleans

Starting point is 01:30:30 They're bad team, but they have some good players on the team. So I feel like I All 32 teams should get represented by Baldi's breakdown. Yeah, I love it. You owe it to them you owe it to the players It's actually funny you watch more football on Monday and Tuesday than you do on Sunday. Yes Oh, yeah, for sure that like twice as much. It's actually funny. You watch more football on Monday and Tuesday than you do on Sunday. Yes. Oh yeah, for sure. That like twice as much. That's awesome. So one question I had about the NFC side of things is the 49ers. Cause we're, we, we feel like the 49ers could put it all together. Kyle Sheahan, pretty good coach in the second half of seasons, not necessarily of games, but of seasons. And so if everyone's kind of like waiting for them to get on that little roll here, what do you see in the tape from the 49ers so far?

Starting point is 01:31:12 Obviously no Christian McCaffrey yet, but what do you see on tape? And does it tell you that this is still a good football team that can improve? Or is this a flawed football team? Uh, they're not, I mean, they're not what they were the last two and a half years without McCaffrey, but they still run the ball very well with Jordan Mason and Isaac Arendo. They've been excellent in the run game. You know, they lost IU. It was never really a big factor after the holdout. So, you know, maybe Ricky Pearsall can pick it up. Kittle's having an amazing season. The quarterback is throwing 10 touchdown passes in eight games.

Starting point is 01:31:45 It's not good enough. They're not good enough in the red zone right now. But maybe Piersol coming on. Maybe McCaffrey, he started practicing. Maybe he comes back. We don't know what we're going to get yet. And defensively, they've been good. They just haven't been great yet.

Starting point is 01:31:58 I expect them to make a move for defense alignment here at some point today. Maybe Clowney. They need help up front. But the thing that's held them together, honestly, is they've got an awesome rookie class. Like this Dominic Pune, this Mustafa Green. You look at the Piersol. Their rookie got Gerendo. Their rookie class has been amazing.

Starting point is 01:32:21 All good teams need juice from their rookies. But the NFC West right now, Arizona leads it at five and four. They just made a move to get a defensive pass rusher. Um, the Rams are going to make a second half push. They're too well coached and they're getting good players back. And the four guys they've drafted on the defensive line, Fisk and verse this year, uh, you know, Brown and Turner last year, like they're

Starting point is 01:32:44 really good and only getting better. So it's going to be, it might come down to the 49ers at Arizona in week 18 this year to see who comes out of that division. Yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy. NSC West has four, like, you know, I wouldn't say no one's running away with it, but the four teams that they have are all good teams can beat anyone. Uh, what, so week nine is right around where we're getting to like, you know, the real football and the narratives kind of like, Hey, early season narratives are you are what you are. What team is it that you're watching that you're like, Hey,

Starting point is 01:33:16 this team is starting to play really well and people aren't really paying attention to it right now. They maybe started a little bit slower and they're in the muck and they're not the chiefs or the lions or the Ravens, but they're, they're coming on and they're going to be a force at the end. Maybe it was just the Rams, but if you have another one. Well, I mean, even last night, I mean, Tampa's playing without Mike Evans right now, but he means the biggest red zone threat in this league since Randy Moss and they're not going to have the same firepower without Mike Evans, but they've dealt with their share of injuries, nobody's making any excuses.

Starting point is 01:33:49 But they're running the ball way better than they ever have. And Baker's playing good football. And maybe they should have gone for two when they scored at the end of the game last. Maybe they should have gone for two on the road to go win the game. Maybe that would have been the right call, who knows. But they took Kansas City to the brink.

Starting point is 01:34:05 Like I think they still are a good football team. I know Atlanta's got a two game lead on them in the division, but I believe that they could still be a good second half team. They're playing a lot of young guys. That's not a bad thing. Sometimes if you got the right guys, they're gonna be a lot better at the end of the season. They started a corner last night that's never started or played before. Like sometimes these guys just need to get

Starting point is 01:34:27 seasoned and you know, they could be good additions at the end of the year. Yeah. The bucks are a good answer too, because their schedule, uh, I think it's a little bit easier. Uh, they've been playing some really, really good teams. I know they have the 49ers this week, but after that, you know, they still got to play the, the, the Panthers, I believe, uh, twice. They still got to play the, the saints. They have the Raiders like they, they can, and the Cowboys, I mean, the Cowboys, the Cowboys are dead, right? We, that's that season's over. Well, we know we, we said this though, like, you know, when free agency hit and the Eagles

Starting point is 01:35:00 were out there signing, you know, Saquon Barkley and making all these moves. And the Cowboys were signing a free, you know, a long snapper. Like we said that the roster isn't good enough to compete. And then you look at Dan Quinn leaving Dallas and bringing in, you know, 15 free agents that are all starting and they're all, you know, you know, whether it's Bobby Wagner or Frank Louvre, you know, you just look at what they did. They rebuilt the team and they're much better than Dallas right now. So I just like, look, they've played without Micah Parsons and Tank Lawrence. Nobody would be good defensively without those guys, but you know, offensively they're a challenged football team.

Starting point is 01:35:37 I don't know what Jonathan Mingo does for this receiving core right now. All in, all in. I played for the Cowboys. Like they always had great running backs always you're going back to Dan Reeves and you know, Walt Garrison They you know, Tony Dorsett and em and oh they to see them line up with the running backs They have is just a mystery to me. You study the history of that organization Yeah, in the NFC East it's it does seem like it's down to two teams, the commanders and the Eagles. I am a commander's fan, but I feel like I'm a realistic commander's fan in that I think that the Eagles have a better

Starting point is 01:36:12 roster than us. I think that they're a better team than Washington right now. But Washington's on a roll. They beat every team that they should beat. They've struggled against some of the better competition they played. But how do you see it shaken out between the Eagles and the Commies? Well, I mean, right now you can't get Jayden Daniels to make a mistake. Like he just plays mistake free football every week. And it's not because he's playing conservative football. I mean, the guy's just, he's Lamar Jackson, what he's been able to do right now.

Starting point is 01:36:43 Cliff Kingsbury has been perfect for him. And so their offense really good, I think defensively, they're very average. They've been playing with a big lead. And so Dan Quinn's been able to blitz a lot to get pressure. And if they give up a play, they've been able to overcome it. But I think they're average on defense. But you wouldn't know it by watching how confident they play right now. So, but they're a legit offense right now because of the way they can run the ball control the ball They score at a very high percentage

Starting point is 01:37:12 right now of Possessions that they get and so it's hard to get the ball away from John straight like hell last week They couldn't get it away. They couldn't get him to make a mistake. So they win these close games because of that Yeah, three turnovers this year. That's a record so far. Like it's crazy. Only three turnovers this far through the season. And the Eagles on the other hand, though, the Eagles do seem like they've figured something out in the last three weeks. They look like a different team. So what have they figured out? Well, I mean, you know, some of the players went to Nick during the bye week and

Starting point is 01:37:42 they're like, look, we're holding the ball forever. We're getting away from the run game. Let's just get back to running the ball and play action passes. And that's what they've been doing. And with that, I think Saquon's gonna win the rushing title. Like I know Derek Henry leads the league in rushing, but I think Saquon's gonna win it. I think their offense line is better than Baltimore's.

Starting point is 01:38:03 And I think that you watch Mackay Beckton in there at right guard, he's just a freak. The way he can move people with Lane Johnson, and they're going to get Melada back and Lannan Dickerson. If they just keep running it and get AJ Brown back and play action pass, they're going to be a very difficult offense to stop.

Starting point is 01:38:24 Yeah. Whoever they play. They just pulverize people right now. Dallas better wear that double chin strap this weekend when they come down there to Dallas to play them. It's always a battle with these two teams, but I think Philadelphia can really attack Dallas where they're the weakest. They're a bad run defense and they might look like that on Sunday. Yeah. It's a, say one Barkley would be going for the Russian rushing title in the last week of the season against the giants. And I don't think that's safe. One's going to take them out. Like he did a couple of weeks ago. I'll make every giant fan feel

Starting point is 01:38:55 good. Yeah. I think say one and that one, he's going to be like, yeah, you know what? Screw, screw the younger guys. I'm going to just play the full game here. Yeah. Yeah. The, uh, he's, he's on pace for over 2000 yards. So he's, uh, no, he's playing the best he's ever played. Yeah. He's been incredible. So Baldy on Monday show, we talked about, uh, there's nine teams that are to have two wins, which is crazy. We, we, we came up with the concept, the Tupper bowl, where we're going to have a, uh, uh, uh, final four of the two win teams. I think what do we have the dolphins winning at all? I think we had the dolphins. Are you, are you putting,

Starting point is 01:39:28 are you guys putting that up against the puppy bowl? Yeah, we should. Yeah, we should. I mean, listen, the fact that there are nine teams with two wins is actually like mathematically almost impossible. Yeah, it's crazy. So, so my question to you though is 92 wins. You're not going to go to the playoffs. This is statistically it is almost impossible. But one or two of those two win teams is going to be spoiler is going to play better than they are are right now in terms of their record. Who are those teams? What are the two to win teams that you're like watch out. That's not an easy one. They are still playing hard

Starting point is 01:40:05 and they still got a lot of talent. Oh, Tennessee Titans. Yeah. Tennessee for sure. Like they can, they legitimately can run the football. You know, pile is having a good season. Bill Callahan's coaching the offensive line. JC Latham was the right picket left tackle. Skoransky was the right pick the year before they're building their lines. You look at teams that end up turning things around, look in the trenches and see what they have. Watch Devon, like one of my favorite players in this league is Devondre Sweat. I call him T-Pain, because he just brings pain.

Starting point is 01:40:37 He's 360 pounds. Like he can run, he can like make like miserable for any offensive line. You put him next to Jeffrey Simmons. Like they've been in a lot of games. They won last week. They gave, they put up 400 something yards offense against Detroit the week before. Like that's a team that if you have that bowl game on Superbowl up against the puppy bowl, I watched the Titans against somebody else instead of the puppy bowl. You, you got it by the way. I mean, T- T pain is a good nickname, but his nickname is meatloaf.

Starting point is 01:41:07 You gotta go with me. I know. Yeah. The meatloaf is good, but anybody could call a big guy meatloaf pain is a good rapper's name. It's a great, like I'm, I'm changing it from meatloaf to T pain. Okay. I love watching it play. Yeah. I mean, I, I agree with you on the tights. I've, I've been ridiculed because I've been, I've been betting them a lot because I think their defense is still a top 10 defense and they, you know, they've had trouble at the

Starting point is 01:41:31 quarterback. So that's one. What's another two win team that, uh, people should be looking out for where it's like, Hey, don't take them lightly. They, they, they'll play spoiler. Well, the giants, I mean, look, the quarterback, you know, is a problem, but they have talent. Yeah. Like, you know, this, you know, you look at, you know, Brian Burrows, Dexter Lawrence, you know, Ojalary, O'Carrakey, they've got talent. Offensive line has actually played pretty good, considering they lost their best player, you know, and Andrew Thomas. They've actually played pretty good. This Tyrone Tracy running back, this kid out of Purdue, like he's

Starting point is 01:42:06 had some big games this year. And Malik Neighbors might be the best rookie wide receiver. Like they still have talent. They're in these games. You know, they could have beaten Cincinnati, they could have beaten Washington last week. I know coulda woulda shoulda, I know all that. But still, like, they could still, they still play hard. They haven't packed it in yet. You could question coaching decisions, some of the stuff, but like I wouldn't take that team lightly on any given week. Yeah. Can you tell us a little bit about the Saints interim head coach because we're big fans? Yeah, yeah. He's he looks like a football guy. And one of the things I like about him is on his Wikipedia page, when you look up any like biographical info about this guy, all they have is just football. So he's only done football. There's absolutely no fun facts about him out there, which I think is

Starting point is 01:42:53 good for an interim head coach. But can you tell us something about him? What should we expect from him? Well, he's got the best military Marine Corps haircut going in the NFL. Like it's right, it's John Unitas. Like it's right out of fifties, you know? He's just, look, he's been, he's been in Miami and New Orleans since leaving, you know, the small college ranks. He's been special teams coach and he's been an assistant head coach in a lot of places.

Starting point is 01:43:21 Like he is now. He was assistant head coach here in New Orleans. He was assistant head coach when Dan Campbell was down in Miami. And if you look at one little aspect right now of what they've done in New Orleans, he believes in putting the ball in play on kickoffs and covering the kickoffs. If you look at him, they probably have returned more kicks,

Starting point is 01:43:41 had teams return the kicks more than any other team. And he does it for two reasons. One, he wants his coverage team to get action. And sometimes your defense is a product of your kickoff coverage team. And then number two, he tells me that one quarter of all kicks have a penalty by the receiving team, which backs you up. And instead of getting the ball at the 30, you might get it to 15. And so I just think that's a creative aspect to this whole kickoff rule that looks boring to everybody else. But in New Orleans, they've been covering kicks all year and they've actually had good success

Starting point is 01:44:17 doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Baldy, I got to ask this question because of our producer memes, who's diehard jets fan. Is there a path? Yes. Oh, okay. There's a path. They go to Arizona. They wrote Arizona after this by. And so, um, you know, look, it's, it, it, you know, you beat a good team on the road. Arizona is a good team right now. They don't beat themselves. You go down there, beat Arizona. You get your fourth win. All right. And now you start, you,

Starting point is 01:44:44 you start that feeling. You can see how Aaron and Devante are starting to come together. You saw what Aaron and Garrett's doing. And they actually played that game against Houston with two backup guards. In there, they had the rookie in there, Olufoshano at right guard, Max Mitchell at left guard. They actually look better. Like if they have injuries at the offense line, Morgan Moses can't make it, the rookie in their Olufoshana at right guard, Max Mitchell at left guard. They actually look better. Like I don't,

Starting point is 01:45:06 like if they have injuries at the offense line and Morgan Moses can't make it or, you know, um, Tyron Smith just falls apart because of his age. Like I feel like they got backups in there that can, they can get Breeze Hall going. Like there's a path, there's a path, because I think the best football can still be in front of them. Yeah. Okay. He's got to love that. That means that got memes very excited. You just gave him life for the next two weeks. That AFC playoff picture is going to be very interesting

Starting point is 01:45:32 because you got those four or five teams. You could say right now in, uh, you know, the chargers, the Broncos, the Colts, the jets and the Bengals, and it's going to probably be two spots for those five teams. And, uh, if, if, you know, everything else holds in terms of the Steelers and the Texans, everything, I, I love the chargers. I love the way they're playing football. I don't know what the, I don't know what that seven seed would be. I don't know who, who's going to get hot. If it's the Bengals, the jets, I mean, the, the Broncos have the Broncos are five wind team. They obviously looked bad against the Ravens, but they, they have some nice things as well.

Starting point is 01:46:05 Oh, well, I mean up until last week, Baltimore jerk, you know, it was just too much Lamar. Um, he was just, you know, he had his fourth perfect quarterback rating. Oh, by the way, that's the most in NFL history of anybody, Peyton Manning, anyone for perfect quarterback games. I mean, they couldn't do anything to stop them. But Denver's a legit defensive team. They're very well built. And look, the quarterback was not great last week against Baltimore, but Sean Payton's done a good job coaching that kid. They're well coached. They're going to win their share of games here and be in the playoff picture into December. Yeah. What about the Chargers? What about our guy Harbaugh? He's done a great job so far.

Starting point is 01:46:46 The Chargers haven't looked splashy. They haven't looked flashy. They're not a sexy team right now. They're playing great defense. What is making the Chargers- Well, not just great defense. They're the best defensive football right now. They've had three games this year where they haven't given up a touchdown.

Starting point is 01:46:59 And last week, they're doing it with two rookie corners, two fifth round corners that are starting, and they were able to keep everybody out of the end zone there. Cleveland, who came off a great game, and Jamis Winston looked like Jamis Winston, what we're used to seeing Jamis last week against them. They played great. They've always been a bad tackling team and an injured team. Well, they're not an injured team right now, and they're not a bad tackling team. So the hardball effect is taking, taking effect.

Starting point is 01:47:31 And now they're getting plays. You know, Lad McConkey is becoming a really good player. And Quinton Johnston. Now, Cleveland just gave them free touchdowns last week. Like, I don't know what they did. Like, the right hand wasn't talking, the left hand, the left guy's wide open. But still, I mean, this is a, like they're going to, they're going to make noise. They're, they're playing the way hardball wants them to play. If they're not, but when you are the number one defensive football, the number

Starting point is 01:47:57 one defensive football, if teams aren't scoring touchdowns, you have a chance to win every week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They've been great. And so, Baldy, one thing I love about you, obviously the film, you watch all the film, but you have a love of just physical football and the most physical dudes in the league. Who's one guy that you've been watching this year that's getting you excited, that's like, that's a physical man? Well, I mean, I love watching Dominic Puni play in San Francisco. Like every team needs a Puni. You know, like, you know, know, I mean, we never talk about

Starting point is 01:48:27 guards, but guards are people too. Yeah. Yeah. That guy's played every snap for San Francisco this year. Like he just, he's just a great, he's a great kid. Doesn't say two words. Um, Tefandre Sweat. I got T-Pain is legit. Mev. That guy, people that are 370 pounds shouldn't be able to move like that and play 70% of the snaps. Like he's fun to watch. You know, and then if you look at Daniel Fala-lele in Baltimore at 390 pounds, like, you know, you can't,

Starting point is 01:48:59 he's an eclipse. Like he just blocks out the sun. There's a reason why Derrick Henry runs behind him for these 10 touchdowns he's an eclipse. Like he just blocks out the sun. There's a reason why Derek Henry runs behind him for these 10 touchdowns. He's run for you. Can't you can't see around them. You can't see through them. Like those guys are just fun to watch. Yeah. Every team needs a puny. Yeah. Um, all right. Baldi has been so much fun. I got one last question for you. It's the row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips polos hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take what team that you watch the tape is doing something, whether it be offensively or defensively that you're like, wow, this is, this is stuff no one else is doing right now. Good. I mean, I obviously we know Ben Johnson, Kevin O'Connell is a great coach, but what's

Starting point is 01:49:42 under the radar coordinator that you're like, man, this guy is dialed in and he's calling, he's hitting all the right buttons. I feel like Joe Brady and Buffalo is that guy. Like if you, I was just watching and studying the game this weekend against Miami, which was a great game, and two, it couldn't play any better. But what he does by formations and his route combinations is he just creates space. Like you could take three receivers on one side and run them on vertical routes. And all you're doing is creating space for somebody coming on a drag or a cross. And there's this big window there.

Starting point is 01:50:16 And he constantly, and so it's easy throws for Josh. And one of them, and then, you know, they run it more than they throw like all the good teams in the league now it's been a huge shift like there's ten good teams in this league that are like the Eagles they're running at 56% of the time the most in the league but Baltimore Detroit San Francisco Kansas City's 50-50 like the best teams in the league are running it more than they're throwing it now but then if you look at the coordinators what are they doing in the passing game like they're they're making these now. Um, but then if you look at the coordinators, what are they doing in the passing game? Like they're, they're making these throws really easy and identifiable for Josh. He'll take all the easy throws you want to give them. And, and then, you know, at the end of the day, when he has to make a play, he's still Josh Allen. So I feel like Joe Brady in the passing game right now is very under the radar. Yeah, that's a good answer.

Starting point is 01:51:05 game right now is very under the radar. Yeah. That's good answer. Yeah. So what teams out there could be thinking soupy right now? How many teams are actual super bowl contenders? Give them, give them to us on your, yeah. Count them with your hands. I want to see your hands. Well, I mean, you know, you, you go, you know, Detroit, Philadelphia right now, Baltimore, uh, Kansas city, like those four look like final four teams. But you've got to consider what Minnesota can do because the firepower and offense and what Florida's does on defense. You got to still consider Houston.

Starting point is 01:51:36 They're going to get Nico Collins back. He's going to make a difference right now. You feel like either the Rams or the 49ers, one of those two teams is going to come out of the west and they'll be really well tested. I wouldn't go to sleep on Atlanta at all. Bijan looks like he's poised to have a great second half of the season the way they used him last week. Drake London, Pitts, what Kirk is asked to do. And defensivelyly they've got playmakers in the back end. I feel like those are eight legitimate teams right there.

Starting point is 01:52:08 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's as much as the nine to win teams and there's some bad teams, it does feel very wide open at the top. And the fact that we have some great football coming up. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, this could be like, you know, it's going to be Thanksgiving before we know it. You're going to get three games on Thanksgiving. Look, maybe Dallas Giants doesn't float your boat on Thanksgiving, but other games will. Then we get to the holiday season where we have games Saturday and Sunday all the way through this, you know, and so, and Monday night and Thursday. So it's,

Starting point is 01:52:40 it's going to be all football all the time when we get to December and these games are all going to get flexed. You're going to get great games in these windows. And so just get on your couch and get your remote ready. Yeah, I love it. Are you going to wake up to watch the Germany game, the Giants and the Panthers? Well, I'm always awake, so I don't have to worry about that. I want to see, I want to see the Panthers.

Starting point is 01:53:03 I want to, cause I think that Robert Hunt Panthers, uh, I want it. Cause I think that Robert hunt is an underrated guard and Chuba Hubbard can run through anybody. So yeah, I'm, I'm anxious to see that game. You're the only one. You're the only one anxious to see that game. It's great. I've always, I've always got an eye on the giants just because I still feel like there's something still there that maybe they can unlock. Like two years ago, they made a run to the playoffs. Nobody thought they could like, who knows? Maybe it just gets unlocked. You've inspired me to be a better football fan. I was considering taking that game off, but I, you might've talked me into it. Yeah. Uh, all right. Well, Baldi, thank you as

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Starting point is 01:57:05 for so long that we're just somewhere in there. But when you go look at top episodes on both Spotify and iTunes, it's just politics, politics, politics. Oh, are two dumbasses. Politics, politics, politics. So thank you everyone who subscribed. It's crazy to look at. Hopefully maybe we can climb the charts now that the politics are over. Yeah, we're done with politics. Yeah politics is over It's a how politics is a one-day season Yeah and so you had your time you get the long preseason that lasts 364 days and then the regular season and Sometimes overtime and maybe if we want to get in the politics charts, we'll just have Hank to a politics podcast

Starting point is 01:57:41 Who Hank's political corner? I did say that it would be funny if we had titled this episode like Decision 2024, just to see people would be pissed, but it would have been funny. I did vote, Hannah, I voted four times today for Pepsi Rookie of the Week. Nice. Yeah. There you go. All right, Hank. Did we bump up memes on the iTunes after we told people the Spotify Spotify has a new subscribe No, I thought it was I thought it was yeah, no, oh, it's Apple. Yeah. All right, so do it on both, please We did not bump up. We're not in the top. Oh, yeah. God damn it. I don't understand Yeah, but the episodes were already every time there's a new episode were like it literally is like it's like Joe Rogan the daily yeah Some other politics and then us when there's there's always one new podcast that comes out just that they can screen grab it

Starting point is 01:58:32 And be like look look at us. We're top podcast and then that goes away after yeah We're currently at number five on Apple's top episode top episodes nice alright So what we have and what who's ahead of us just politics Elon Musk on Rogan. Yeah Daily yeah, and then to murder or what's it? Yeah. Yeah, that's right I forgot about the murder crime and then on on Spotify I think we're seventh right now on top episodes and it's the same it's like it's Joe Rogan One through three caller daddy and then us so what we have to do if we're going to engineer how we can climb these charts, we already talked about maybe getting Hank to date like Rihanna or Beyonce, Cardi B,

Starting point is 01:59:11 top female celebrity. Hank should also do politics. And Hank should also commit a murder that me and Big Cat can solve. We solve that. That would be great producing, wouldn't it? If you killed somebody and me and Big Cat did like five episodes trying to find out who did it turns out plot twist

Starting point is 01:59:26 It was Henry. I'll get crazy if you do those three things You don't you can get out of the dunk bet No, don't put so much over. Oh, okay. Well, I'm saying you don't have to pay it I think Hank should be eligible for unlimited golf for an entire year if you kill someone if you murder somebody Yeah, and we get to solve the mystery You got to make you got to do a good job No killing someone cuz I don't want you to solve it Well, maybe that's yeah, maybe we're just inconclusive at the end. Yeah, then I don't get an unlimited golf. Yeah, okay

Starting point is 01:59:57 Well, we'll figure it out. Maybe just date Rihanna. That's easier fine For we got four rows today. Listener watched PMT to see a big cat fluctuate weight while their cohost suffers a midlife crisis revolved around hair treatment, buying muscle cars without putting gas in them and falling for his new QB. You're forced to stick around and see the VP of nothing. Well, they scheduled coups and have a hefty Italian steals the mic from a lovable man child and his aggro roided friend Oh, that's me Memes has got a bad reputation around here memes is roided. Yeah, I like that's actually that But memes memes got a there was there's some scuttlebutt because memes apparently tried to fight someone

Starting point is 02:00:46 during pick up basketball on Friday. Which means I have your back now that I know that Jack McCarthy tried to take you down midair. That's a fight worthy play. It was a walk in lay out. Yeah. That's a fight worthy play. If you're in the air, that's a dangerous play. You do have anger issues though. I could get to a point where I get very angry but I mean we got a bunch of babies though like it was not that serious like it wasn't like I wasn't the tape. Were you there. Yeah. Oh yeah. So I'm on meme side. I mean memes went up to Jack McCarthy screamed in his face. Do you to go? You want one? So I don't know how much closer it can get to fighting.

Starting point is 02:01:29 Can you narrate for us? Because we haven't seen the tape. We don't know what happened. I heard from what memes told us about the play. What was the play? It was the foul, right? Some people... I didn't see the foul.

Starting point is 02:01:40 Hold on, hold on. I saw the scuttle. I want to hear... I want to give a little context though before you talk about the play because some people are saying memes was called for travel in the play before and he was mad about that. That was the base of all anger. Okay, alright so let's take it from the start. So memes flagrantly traveled. Yes. I was not playing the game.

Starting point is 02:02:00 I didn't see any of the, any of what. Some would say it's a gather step. Eight steps. I heard eight steps! I was coming down, spun, We're gonna have to get this to you. took two extra steps, threw it up behind me, hit off the backboard, went in, it was sick play.

Starting point is 02:02:16 Okay, so you spun and then took two steps, that sounds like a walk. The gather step was a spin. Okay, alright, so go ahead Hank. But if it misses, then I probably was just like, yeah, I was traveling. Okay. All right. So go ahead, Hank. But if it misses, then I probably is just like, yeah, I was travel. Yeah. No, that was it. I just don't. I think, you know, when you're playing competitive basketball, sometimes like, yeah, what rise, but it's not that it wasn't that serious. What happened? What memes just said? He just said it. The does a walk.

Starting point is 02:02:42 I didn't think it was a walk. I didn't think it was like that. And then they were just John. Yeah. But on the layup. Was he... Did he pull him down? I didn't think so. I thought it was... I mean it was a physical play. Yeah. No easy buckets. 90's basketball? Not even. Everyone's just divas.

Starting point is 02:02:59 What do you think about... Do you want to go... I mean, memes does have... I defend memes here. Memes also does... I mean, there have that I defend memes here memes also does I mean there was that time was two weeks ago when I came in and memes I think he had had his fist clenched for like three hours because I walked in and he looked like he wanted to punch it That's fair But I think I think there's like you can ask them if you want to go if you actually throw a punch then you have

Starting point is 02:03:17 An anger problem, but that's true when you're in a point when you're in a heated You know if you're in a basketball game, and you know you're in between the lines like that can get to a point you think oh you want to go but that doesn't necessarily max I mean max almost in that context max like fully through his bottle cap at Stephen Che as hard as he could from point-blank good point that's correct good point but that wasn't what was that for he kept he started rooting for the Jags oh yeah, yeah For no reason. Yeah, just to make max angry Yes, like boys will be boys if you ask somebody you want to go like that's you're asking for consent You should be taught to do that and it's like if somebody that is weak says that to you

Starting point is 02:03:56 Then it's not a big problem But then when a roided out macho man like memes says it and it's like, oh no Yeah, it's like having a ugly dude ask you out as opposed to an attractive guy memes Let me ask you a quick question. How many people in this office have you? You're not I don't I actually don't I'm not concerned about you fighting anyone, but how many people have you visualized beating up? And eating up but like punching and how many of those people are in this room right here no I Genuinely like you guys, but there's Moments yeah, but that's got to be a hundred percent. Yeah. No probably just max max. Hey, Hank. Hey, yeah But Hank doesn't yell

Starting point is 02:04:37 yelling triggers me like we can be talking about offensive lineman and he'll just max gets to a level of just office chatter And he'll just start screaming guy But you've definitely wanted to punch Hank. That's a lie if you if you say opposite no Hank gave me a job Yeah, they're in that job I wish he'd never gave me this job. Yeah, but there's nothing that's been that serious and then looking back It's just always overblown. Yeah

Starting point is 02:05:06 Yeah, well falls back on the anger problem. He does say the anger sharks are swimming out loud About me often Whenever I start to get angry This is how dedicated to the game memes is he steps in and intervenes on himself by thinking of a meme Yeah to calm him down the anger sharks are swimming. I love it. I love it. Okay Next one a Taylor Swift podcast that sometimes discusses current sports is hosted by a 40 year old man wearing Spanx a middle school Bible teacher with a midlife crisis The show is produced by a guy with good luck Chuck syndrome and a mukbanger who loves Philly sports

Starting point is 02:05:50 Wait, what's good luck Chuck syndrome? I mean everyone everyone that I date gets married. Oh, what's this gomasse up to? Oh Yeah, gomasse By the way that brought up Did you get any blowback for your Taylor Swift comments max zero okay? All right? I was for saying that she was beautiful that one of the most beautiful. I feel like that stars That's about as that's about as one as you can say one of the most you you just want someone else to get Taylor Swift blowback No, I don't care. I don't want you to go through the hell I Don't do anything anymore

Starting point is 02:06:28 Guests include the fat kid from standby me who often recites poetry about one of the hosts meh Yeah, that was come on. You're taking a shot Jerry a Wonderful a wonderful way to get sports news from a dog a Little person who loves airplanes and Jane Daniels, but is scared of heights and woman I know beast man who is delusional about the Bears. Yeah, and even obese or crybaby from Philadelphia And the keeper of the light Willy Wonka's grandpa. Who's the dog? Pug pug. Oh pug. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. we haven't gotten on the Willy Wonka's grandpa thing recently Hank

Starting point is 02:07:06 No, since that was hot in the streets like couple years ago I feel like we should bring that back what grandpa Joe what about him didn't people call you grandpa Joe for a while You got mad about it. I Don't know so they call me feeble knees. Yeah, what is he? It's just they they don't think I'm gonna dunk they I think I oh these you got diamond knees. I got yeah. Yeah You got this. I feel good. They have a shot John Crux autistic Italian nephew produces a show hosted by a nearsighted Cocker spaniel and an

Starting point is 02:07:41 anthropomorphic donut He's just trying to get Hank to say words here. Executive producer Henry happened to be there. Lockwood continues to keep Ryan Rossellos thigh from being the whitest landmarks in the sports. That was a good roast. It's a more that's having human characteristics. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:08:02 So you're just a donut with human characteristics. Your live action donut. A claymation donut. You got one more? Nope. Okay, that was good. I felt good. Yeah. We gotta do roast more often.

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Starting point is 02:09:34 Memes and PFT you guys have never gotten this I've never gotten it I need one of you to get it so then we can start bullying the other person It's not fun when it's too. I've never gotten it. It was fun when it was three. 96. 96. Love you guys. So So So So So Thanks for watching!

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