Pardon My Take - NFL With Pete Prisco, Outdoor Adventurer Forrest Galante, NFL Head Coach Draft + The Mt Rushmore Reduel

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

We're on the eve of the NFL season and we're so pumped for football. We do our annual NFL Head Coach's draft and pick some MVP picks, Super Bowl picks, and least improved pick (00:00:00-00:41:52). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Kristin Cavallari, US Open Tennis and more (00:41:52-00:57:23). Pete Prisco joins the show to talk 2024 NFL season, what teams will surprise us, quarterbacks he's high on and more (00:57:23-01:39:45). Outdoor Adventurer and explorer Forrest Galante joins the show to talk about his wild life finding animals, swimming with sharks, tracking species that are thought to be extinct and more (01:39:45-02:28:55). We finish with the Mt Rushmore finale, the reduel between Hank and PFT and the punishment attached (02:28:55-02:58:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a twofer for the people. We got our good friend Pete Prisco previewing the NFL season, which is one day away. And then we have an awesome interview with Forrest Galaan who actually we had an interview on the old Barstool Gold days so a lot of people probably didn't hear it. Really fascinating dude, he basically travels the world searching for animals, extinct animals, animals that we haven't seen in you know hundreds of years, swims with sharks, really really cool interview in person,

like one of those ones you walk away, you're like, damn, that was very interesting. He's in the Naked and Afraid Hall of Fame. Yeah, he's in the Naked and Afraid Hall of Fame. We also have the Redual, Mount Rushmore Redual after both those interviews to finally put an end to the Mount Rushmore season. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore and then we are going to find out who lost right after and we've already had the punishments as well. So listen to all of that. We're going to do our annual NFL head coaches draft where we draft what coaches we think are

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Get 250 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks and get one month of NFL plus premium on us. Offer ends 9.19 only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, September 4th. And boys, we are a mere hours away from the NFL season kicking off. We're what? if you're listening to this in the morning, we're about 40, 36 hours away. It's back. We're ready. It's NFL Eve.

It's NFL Eve, Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve, all rolled up into one. I'm ready. I'm excited. I'm so excited. I'm too excited. Yeah. I'm too excited.

I've found that I've been just pulling random people aside and having conversations with them and they always Roll back to like jaden daniels and I'm always saying the same thing my analysis of jaden daniels is identical every time He's so good. Yeah, and that's that's all I've been talking to people about and I feel like this is this year It all turns around. Yeah, and we have the Thursday night game the Friday night game full-sleeve Sunday Yeah, um, what a game, full slate Sunday. Yeah. A great Monday night nightcap. Yeah.

Yeah. Where we might lose a member of the show. Yeah. Memes. Memes, have you purchased the bomb making supplies just in case? Not yet. Okay. That's probably smart.

That is smart. So, we have our Pete Perisco preview. We did our Dan Orlowski preview yesterday. We got to do a preview of our own. Should we start, maybe we end with the coach's draft. Or should we start with the coach's draft? Let's do the coach's draft. You wanna do it right off the bat?

Let's fucking do the coach's draft. Now's a quick turnaround for start or end. Yeah, because I realize that the coach's draft is fun and it helps preview everything. So we're gonna do, we did this last year. We drafted every NFL head coach. Basically who you trust, who you, who you believe in and we'll post it.

It's not a Mount Rushmore because it's eight picks each, but it will be a poll that people can vote on at the end and see who has the best eight pack of NFL head coaches. How do we want to start? Who wants to go first? Max, you want to go first? Sure. Okay. PFT, why don't you go first? Okay, I'll go first and then we'll go are doing snake. We're going snake. Okay, so it'll be me max Hank big cat big cat

Then back. Yes. Yes So this is this is your number one head coach because you have the first pick number one head coach Many would say the best coach of all time or at least in the conversation. Yeah, Andy Reid Yes, Andy Reid good pick. Andy Reid. Good pick. Great coach. Looks good in shorts. I do I, I keep going back to just cheese are gonna win it all again. I think I feel like this is all leading towards the same conclusion. I'm not gonna pick the chiefs. I think I'm gonna pick the chiefs. I'm gonna I

will end up betting on the chiefs. But I don't think I'm gonna take the chiefs. Yeah, gonna I will end up betting on the chiefs, but I don't think I'm gonna take the chiefs Yeah, I just they're there. I don't know what I don't know what's gonna stop them It's almost like the more distractions they get in Kansas City the better they get yeah And in the ability to take all the distractions and actually become more focused in the minute you get to the point where you're saying Oh, well, they're they're just tired of winning. That's probably why they won't win. That's not a real reason. Not a real one. No, not at all.

OK, Max. I am going to go with... Is this good that we're detoxing from Mount Rushmore season by doing a draft? Yeah. It's totally different. Yeah, way different. I'm going to go with Jim Harbaugh. Ooh.

Right off the bat. OK. Hasn't coached the NFL in a while, but obviously. National champion. Three NFC championships, a Super Bowl appearance. Friend of the program. Three NFC championship appearances. Yeah, friend of the program.

Good friend of the program. You think he's going to miss having Connor? He doesn't know him. I also think there's a chance he could have Connor. Yeah. We don't know. We don't know him. I also think there's a chance he could have Connor. Yeah. We don't know. We don't know. Okay, Hank.

I'm gonna go with another good friend of the program. Super Bowl champion, third longest tenured NFL coach, John Harbaugh. Oh, I thought you were gonna go with a different friend of the program. Good pick. Good pick. Good pick. I was gonna possibly pick him. All right, so I'll go with the smart kids in the same division. I'll take Sean McVeigh

and Kyle Shanahan back to back. I Kyle Shanahan. This is a big year for him. Yeah. It feels like this is a he's got a lot of baggage a lot of emotional baggage. He's had some tough loss. If you want though you can make the correlation. Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches of all time. For a long time, Andy Reid was Kyle Shanahan, where he was on the Eagles, had a lot of really good teams, couldn't get over the hump. Kind of goes back to what I always think is good as the coach is, it's always about the quarterback because he got Patrick Mahomes and Kyle Shanahan, he took Jimmy G to a Superbowl. That actually might be bigger than a Superbowl. Yeah. That might be more impressive than a Superbowl. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,

I love Kyle Shanahan. Like I think almost every team, if maybe there might be one or two teams that would take him over their current head coach if everything was equal that we've already said. Yeah. He's that good. He is. But he, you know, if he can maybe Brock Pardee is the quarterback, but that really is, it's funny how it goes down like Andy Reid, if he just retired after the Eagles.

Like, yeah, he was a good coach, never won anything big. Then he has Patrick Holmes in his life and he starts winning big. Yep. Okay. Hank. I'm gonna stick with hard-nosed football. Mike Tomlin. Good pick. Nice pick. Great pick. I had him on next to my board. We're about to fall off a cliff. I'm gonna go with another vet in the game. Hasn't figured out with this team quite yet, but I think you will, Sean Payton. Okay. All right. Interesting. It was a horrible draft for Max. It's a tough love kind ofton. Mm. Okay. All right. Interesting.

It was a horrible draft for Max. It's a tough love kind of guy. Yeah. Max doesn't really know good coaches. Yeah. Bad draft. Okay. PFT, you got two.

Okay. I'm going to go with Dan Campbell. Good pick. Dan Campbell. Great coach. Good pick. Love what he's building up there in Detroit. Yeah.

Good pick. That's a good pick. And we talk about Dan Campbell with Pete Prisco. I think Pete's wrong about Dan. Yeah, I do too. I think we're right about Dan. Yes. Next, I'm gonna go Kevin Stefanski for the show. Coach of the year twice? I think he's, is he? Because the coach of the year, it's funny. It's like- Matt Nagy won a coach of the year. You could give it every year to Bill Belichick when he was in the league or Andy Reid, but it's usually a guy that makes the playoffs that you don't think is going to make the playoffs. Two time coach of the year. Which is funny, because you could also make the same claim that Kevin Stefanski might

be underrated as a head coach. Yeah. I mean, I think he's a very, very good head coach. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not bias. Did he get a dog for his kids yet? I don't know.

I need to know about that. Follow up with that. Okay. Maxi. I will go Mike McDaniel. Okay. What about what about Mike McDaniel in under 40 degree weather? That's that's the word I'm looking for. You can find it. A good point. Yeah, you can find it. No, random. They say in the court of law, it's random. That was the word you were looking for?

No, there's a random. Random? No. Erroneous? Erroneous? Does that make sense? Erroneous? Mike McDaniel, he's got a fun offense.

He's got a fun offense. Erroneous. Roni Mike McDaniels is good. What offense got a fun offense a rony and it doesn't and that The the the cold weather doesn't show his actual coaching prowess. Okay, okay Okay This is stressing me out there's too many names there's so many names Okay, hey, I'm gonna go with a guy that they kept around for a reason. He must be good Matt Eberfluss. Mm-hmm Troll pick good pick a troll pick Yeah, what do you mean? Yeah, okay

Okay, you did there see we did there they kept him around for easy. He has to be good in the fourth round Yeah, he's if you guys are gonna be winning football all right all right have to have a good coach relax relax troll troll pick okay I don't understand you could be selling yourself so high on the Bears but not be high on the head coach because it's the players Jimmy's and Joe's not X's and O's ever heard that saying so then we should be doing just a fancy draft well in big cat's mind what's happened this offseason is Mattie Braflusis said I'm only going to do defense. Yeah. And that's it. Yeah Shane Maldron's got the offense. He's not going to do any offense. Game management,

I don't know who's going to take over in that department. You won't even have to manage the games. You know what? He'll have figured it out this offseason. Yeah I have question marks. There's question marks. We'll find out. We'll find out. Hey, listen, I wanted Jim Harbaugh. I recruited Jim Harbaugh. My recruiting fell short. All right. Let's go with Matt LaFleur, friend of the program and a guy I'm very high on, D'Amico Ryan. Oh, I had both those guys. Yeah.

Good pick. Yeah. So I'm going with the young guns. Okay. I like that. A lot of the young guns. Hank, this is where we fall off a cliff. I don't think so. I've been sold a lot on this guy. Oh, I was saying more just in the fact that we can't remember who we picked. Oh yeah. This is another guy, big expectations. He's a veteran in the league. Dan Quinn. Okay. Oh yeah.

I like that. Back to back troll. So Mattie Berflut's better coach than Dan Quinn though? Yeah. Yeah, because you picked him earlier. Turn your hat backwards when you say that. What do you like about Dan Quinn? Defensive, hard nose, gritty, he's going to get the players going. Great offense. Yeah, great offense. Went to a Super Bowl?

Went to a Super Bowl. Had a 25 point lead in a Super Bowl. Yeah, one of the best teams of all time. That's very hard to do. Yeah, it is. How many times have I like Kyle Shanahan taking Jimmy G? Those actually should be Super Bowl. How many teams, and those two guys are not related whatsoever in that Super Bowl game

in Kyle Shanahan? Nope, not at all. With Dan Quinn building that 25 point lead against one of the greatest teams ever and the greatest player ever, that should actually count as two Super Bowls. Two Super Bowls. That's so hard to do. Super Bowls. Two Super Bowls. That's so hard to do. Super Bowls. Okay.

Multi-time Super Bowl winning coach Dan Quinn, kind of. Yeah. Max is in the booth. He's taking off his shoes and socks to try to count to 10 here. It's stressful. There's a lot going on. Every time I look up, he's just freaking out. Well, there's so many names.

I thought we were just going to do four and then All the names really just got it got to me. I'm gonna get ahead of Hanks troll picks. I'll go Nick sir You block the troll. How are you feeling about Nick Siriani? All in he's gonna be a leader of men this year. We got good guys around him This is the year. This is the year that he gets it done It's actually funny cuz leader men this year. The five of us. See, not in past years. Last year he didn't do a great job leading men, but leading men, but this year he's back leading men. What's the most important part about leading a man?

Just showing a good example of what it's like to be a man. Okay. Such as? So would you say Dom is the head coach then? No, but having a good guy like that by your side shows that you know good guys to be around. But if you have Dom next to you, everyone's going to look and they're like, Hey, there's Nick Sirianni and Dom, that's a man and that's a whatever it is. It's a team game.

It's not one person. It's just like showing a good surrounding in the organization of leadership and Nick Sirianni is at the head of that. Not Dom. Dom's right there. He's always next to him. Yeah. So like when you're looking at Sirianni you're also looking at Dom. But also with Nick Sirianni it's like...

You can't look at Nick Sirianni without looking at Dom. He's always there. But Nick Sirianni can't be a man without a real man behind him. Correct. It's like, oh I have to have my... But that's... I have to have my... My dad follows me around in case I get into any trouble. Nick Sirianni is basically one of those Tik Tokers that goes to the mall and tries to

fight people and then their security guard steps in. It's like Robin Big. Yeah. No, but it takes good leadership to know that good leadership should be around. You need a bodyguard at all times. Right. Yep. It takes someone who's very honest about themselves not being a man to admit they need a bigger man. That's not what I said.

That's not what I said. Okay. I'm gonna go with Big Dom. Okay. For the next... I'm gonna go with Big Dom and then I will take... Are we allowing Big Dom? No, we're not allowing Big Dom. We should. Okay, I'll take... I'm gonna go with Zach Taylor. Hmm. People forget. People forget about Zach Taylor. They do. I think he's a very good coach. I do too. He kind of flies under the radar in Cincinnati a little bit. And he did a good job without Joe Burrow.

Yeah. When he was hurt. Yeah. I think he's a very good coach. Next up, I'm gonna go with Doug Peterson. Hmm. Super Bowl winner. Super Bowl winner.

He won a Super Bowl. Yeah. A lot of people say that it couldn't be done in Philly. Doug Peterson did it. Super Bowl winner. Good night. That's a good pick. And then they ran him out of Bowl. Yeah, a lot of people say that it couldn't be done in Philly. Doug Peterson did it. Super Bowl winner. Good pick. No, that's a good pick. And then they ran him out of town.

Yeah. No. I'm shutting up. You're a good guy. I'm going to go with Shane Steichen. Ah, good pick. That's a good pick. Good pick.

Good pick. Has anyone taken Antonio Pierce? No. And I will do that. Good pick. Run to the program. Okay. I'm going to have those boys fired up. No. And I will do that. Good pick. Under the program. Okay. I'm gonna have those boys fired up. Okay. I will go with, no, I don't want him. Oh, I'll go with a newcomer. We don't know what he is yet, but if we're basing it off of his defense last year, I

think he's gonna be a very good head coach. I'll take Mike McDonald. Yep. Seattle Seahawks head coach. I think he's going to be a very good head coach. And then I will also take this is where we yeah, I'm lost. Oh, you know what? Friend of the program. Yeah, some of the seasons haven't gone very well at the end, but he's got his team competing every single year for AFC East Championship, Sean McDermott. Good pick. They've won four AFC East Championships. Yeah. And if you look at what the Bills were before McDermott compared to with him obviously Josh Allen made a big difference too but he's he's done a good job when he's not making 9-11 references. He's 73 and 41 is a

head coach. Yeah. That's pretty damn good in the NFL in the National Football League. I will go with a newcomer. Newcom unknown, but based on his defense last year. I think he's gonna be good Jared mail. Oh, okay. Nice You got all the guys Nice good pick hang memes just couldn't help but notice that you took Antonio Pierce before Mayo. Mm-hmm and Matt Eber flusen Dan Quinn. Yeah, what's interesting about Pierce's Pierce? Well, Matt Eber flusen is Yeah, what's interesting about Pierce's Pierce? Well, Matt Eberflu is You know that and Quinn I went to a super bowl I hate you so much and you know, you know that Antonio Pierce came on the show of Mayo came on the show

I would have taken him before Antonio Pierce is such he was such a good player that He beat maybe the best team of all time in the Super Bowl. Remember that? Mm-hmm I do he did be probably the best team of all time in Super Bowl Well, that means they're actually not the best team of all time Because you lost last probably yeah, okay Max This is where I said I I screwed something up Someone picked Kevin O'Connell right no no oh

I think he's a very good coach. I'm the only all have every person on my list. I had him on my list. That is a good pick. I think he's a very good coach. Don't we all have every person on our list? Yeah, I'm actually looking at just the Wikipedia list of current NFL quarterback or coaches. We have him on our list. I freaked out. I just started writing everyone's name down. I've been crossing things. I'm like Charlie from Always Sunny right now with this list. You're like Memento? Yeah, I'm flustered. Kevin O'Connell is a good coach.

Yeah. And I think if Sam Donald, this is going to be the year. Seven year bump. We spaced on Kevin O'Connell. Yeah. That's all that. I did have I was looking at his name. But Sean McDermott has done more in the NFL.

OK. PFC you have two picks. I get two picks now. And then we're getting to the end and yeah We are getting to the end end right now. There's a big fat elephant in the room. I know and I don't want to take I'm gonna go with Raheem Morris, okay Falcons. I think the Falcons are gonna be spices here. He's worse He had he had a twenty four five point lead in the Super Bowl

Against the New England Patriots at one point. Yes. People forget that. Yes. That's true. So I'm going to take him and then I'm going to go. I'm going to go with Brian Callahan. Nice. I like Brian Callahan. I also AWL. Is he really? Yes. I like Brian Callahan, Callahan a lot. Obviously hasn't done anything as a head coach yet, but it's him you get him and his dad Yeah as a package you'll both Callahan's big big Tom little Brian. I don't know his dad's probably not Tom Callahan It's Tommy Boy. I'm thinking of but it's the off the board, but his dad is maybe the best off It's a line coach in the NFL. Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact

Okay, there's like three names that I don't want to pick that. I'm just hoping I can play it correctly Just just hold your breath. Yeah Yeah, um, I'm gonna go with Jonathan Gannon Mmm, you'll be you'll be you'll see he was underrated Lee not that bad last year Okay. Yeah, I actually am high on the Cardinals offense this year. I think that's gonna be fun. Watch very fun. Watch Hank offense this year. I think it's going to be fun watch. Very fun watch. Hank. Listen, fellas, winning a Superbowl in this league is tough. Oh, he's doing it.

You need someone with Superbowl. Boys stands up. You need someone that's had that experience. He's going to, you know, get the boys through through the long playoff run. Mike McCarthy, long playoff run. Good. I don't think he's ever been on a long run. Long, long playoff run good. I don't think he's ever been on a long run long long playoff run Okay This is fun. How are you guys doing this with our crossings out? I'm just looking at who we we were doing it, but how do you just remember listening? All right, I'm gonna some guys that we don't want to take. Yeah, we're just hoping that somebody else takes I'm gonna I'm gonna pick one of probably the most vocal, boisterous guys out there.

Leader of men, Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles. Back-to-back. NFC South Championships, anyone? Yeah, Todd Bowles. He used to be one of the top 10 coaches in the league. Yeah, he did. He used to be. And then you then you know what? I'll do it just for memes. He I'll take Robert Sala. Robert Sala bald head. I think Robert Sala would have been fired if he didn't have a bald head. You think if he had hair, I think if he had hair, he would have already been fired. I think the bald head, you just see it. It's like power is it too. It's shiny bald. Yeah. I just think there's something about him. The aura. Yeah. I think think there's something about him, the aura. Yeah, I think that you've noticed this in the offseason

with Salah. He's had it. He's like sick of talking to people about everything. Yeah, he's got to win for his own mental health. Which I like, a coach back in the corner. Yeah, he's definitely in that fight or flight right now. And it seems like everything that's been going on with the team has been nothing to do with actual football.

And so he is probably just he's wishing that somebody would ask him a question. He's missing the days about answering relentless questions about Zach Wilson. Mm hmm. He misses that. Yeah. Sick of talking about where his quarterback going to Egypt and a guy that's on the team that's not on the team. He just wants to be able to like get mad at the media for treating his quarterback unfairly. Yes, I'd agree. Okay, Hank, last round. I think there's a better bald headed coach in New York with championship experience. Brian Dable. Okay.

You see Brian Dable is taking back play calling responsibilities this year. Oh, just announced that. Oh, I don't know if this was a thing that happened earlier in the offseason they agreed on or if it was like the preseason sucked. So I'm that would be a panic move if they flipped it up right now. But yeah, he's back calling plays, which is if you look at the trajectory, I'm not saying he's gonna be fired. I like Brian Dable, but the trajectory of a coach who's on his way to being fired, it does involve the play calling duties going back and forth.

Yeah. Brian Dable has six rings. Pretty crazy. Stud. Five Super Bowls and the college football national champion for Alabama 2017. Stud. Brian Dable should remake the MJ picture with his rings. That'd be cool. Okay. There's two left. Um, I'm going to go with Dave Canales.

Okay, PFT got the stinky one. I watched a clip of him on X yesterday talking about whether he was gonna go with a bell cow approach or a committee approach at running back. And that's what I got on him. That's literally the first time I'd seen the man's face and I'd be like, who's this guy? And then I was like, oh, this is the Panthers. And the cuck book. Yeah, the cuck book.

He wrote a book about cheating on his wife. Yep, love it. We actually should do- Wait, don't love it. You don't? Well, no, you don't love him apologizing for cheating on his wife? It was apology book.

Oh, love it. Yeah, it wasn't like, oh, dude, my wife doesn't even know I'm writing this book. Yeah, I read the first chapter of it, which was like, listen, I fell asleep and when I woke up I was in my wife's friend's bed and I don't know how it happened. Fake news, that doesn't mean cheating. So we're taking Dave Canales over Dennis Allen. Be honest, did you forget about Dennis Allen, Max?

No, I had him on here. I just, I honestly saw that he was a coach for five years of the Saints and I like didn't even know that. Yeah, he's just kind of like a big nothing guy. Oh, he's nothing. He's got no picture on Wikipedia. He's been crazy. Yeah, he's a total nothing. Can you imagine living in New Orleans for five years and not doing anything noteworthy at all? It's crazy. He's just and his name is boring too. Yeah, it's two first names So go yeah, Dennis Allen like if you pulled a hundred people, I think I think the majority would still say Sean Payton You think yeah, if you did like one of those drunk Nashville videos

Yeah, it just kind of seems like they've been Ten guys in New Orleans making the decisions and then Alan is just the guy that stands on the sidelines Yeah, adding his head. Yeah figurehead. Okay. That was a good draft. Yeah got me pumped up for the season I'm very excited. I'm gonna read this Dave Canales book. Yeah Alright, so what else we want to do? Any other predictions? Book report. I'll do a book report on it. I like the idea, PFT, we should do a round of just what's the worst thing that could happen for each of us.

Do we want to do that? Scary. Yeah. Confront your fears, though. Or should we do it for each other? You want me to start? What if Hank just says it? Yeah, Hank, do it for all.

Hater Hank, yeah. No, Hank, you're good at this. Most devastating thing that could happen to us as a fan. No, you guys have to do it for yourselves. Look within yourself. You just want to get mad at me, but you need to look deep within and face your irrational fears that you guys have set upon yourselves for this season.

I'll start. PFT alluded to it. I think the worst case scenario for the Patriots this year is eight wins. Oh You motherfucker. Yeah, it's such a tricky thing you did. Oh You played it well you played that well It would be that would say like I'm going to this season We're trying to we got to rebuild if you're gonna rebuild you guys know I can read out of the starts it starts with the draft. Mm-hmm I'm re-calibrating eight wins wouldn't get us to the playoffs and won't get us a good drop position It would just be a little bit of a too much of a tease actually

That's that's not a bad point except you are you are rebuilding and you've got a young quarterback But going eight nine when you have like an established quarterback.'s the worst thing that can happen what about nine wins it's still not playoffs what about ten wins if we make it to the playoffs makes the playoffs and then anything can happen right you got in the dance right so he wins it was a good pick it's good pick PFT I'm gonna say the stadium falling apart and critically injuring Jaden daniels. Mm-hmm That's a dollar devastated like having shit come out of the showers and him getting MSRA MRSA whatever it is both both realistic things that could happen at FedEx field. Oh, excuse me

Northwest Federal Credit Union field. Mm-hmm Northwest. They're calling it the Fed which I think is a Kind of a shitty nickname but whatever yeah all right the worst thing can happen for me I don't think it's easy as being like oh Kale Williams is not the guy I think it would be back on the roller coaster very up and down and then week 18 chance to make the playoffs against the Packers and he does his nails and then like epically lose and Jordan Love goes and wins a Super Bowl. Yeah that would be it. That would be pretty bad. That'd be pretty bad. That would be yeah. But like not not like oh he's just bad it's like the roller coaster of back and forth,

where it's like there's just more bad than good. Just some fields. If the defense keeps you in games and Caleb Martin doesn't really show on a ton. Yeah. And then that week 18 scenario would be a nightmare. Like the Packers, maybe it's week 18. The Lions have already clinched the NFC North,

so it's week 18 for the last wild card spot. And then the Packers get it and go on a run and win the Super Bowl. Or what if, with our wild card spot. What if the Steelers go on a run with Justin Fields? I'm rooting, well, I want Justin Fields to play because then our draft pick gets better. Yeah, but if Justin Fields won a Super Bowl

with the Steelers, how would you feel about that? I'd be happy for Justin. I don't think that's probably true. I'd be very happy for Justin. I'd'd be happy for Justin. I don't think that's I'd be very happy for Justin. I'd be very happy for Justin. I'd be extremely happy for Justin. I don't think you that might actually make you log off. I'd be happy for Justin. I think you I love there's two things about me. Two things about me. I love Justin Fields. I love Ben the dog. Two things. Yeah. You can put those two in the bag. I think you would log off.

I think you would actually intake. You wouldn't even do the fake hack thing. You would seek out a scheme and get hacked on purpose. The first one is worse than the second one. Justin Fields winning a Super Bowl would hurt way less than Jordan Love taking the Bears playoff spot and then winning a Super Bowl. That would be way more painful.

Way, way more painful. Justin Fields would hurt, but I would just be like, I would be the meme with the smiley face crying behind it being like, I love Justin Fields. He's a great dude, I'm so happy for him. That's what I would say over and over until I had a nervous breakdown. Max.

We don't actually believe that these things are wrong. No, it's the worst thing that could happen for you. I think it's simply if Jaylen Hurts can't have another bad year. Yeah. He has to have a good year. Yeah. You think, would it be worse if he had like an average year? You gotta have a good year and lose in the Super Bowl and have a bad year.

That's what I'm saying, or he gets the Super Bowl and you lose again. Right now I'm going to say losing the super bowl because then it's like all right now you know like he got to the super bowl twice he's a super bowl. Then he becomes can't win the big one. But can't win the big one's not a terrible spot to be. It's pretty bad. Ask Dan Marino that. Ask Peyton Manning that. Yeah. But then he won the big one. Yeah. Correct. But what if he did not. Not at this point in his career and can't win this year. But what if he could never win the big. We're saying this year you think he enjoyed the phase of his career where he couldn't win the big one. But that's not worse than him like playing badly. And then you're like oh shit. This was our guy that we have because he's going to play well enough that you're

not going to be in a rebuilding situation. Like he needs to be good enough to win the win a Superbowl. Okay. This is, I mean, this is a big year for this podcast and football outside of Hank. I think this is a huge for the Eagles. It's, it's like a make or break year. Like if they get notes, yeah, it is a make or break year. Like if they... Yeah, no, it's... Yeah. It is a make or break year. Like at least your two teams, it's like... You have Young...

Oh, I mean, Hank's team fucking sucks. But like your two teams, at least it's like, okay, we're moving in the right direction. Like the Eagles could just take it... This is... I don't think this is gonna happen, but we're talking worst case scenario. Like it could be bad of like going in the wrong direction this could be a bad year in Philadelphia if I don't think it's gonna happen but it's but it's possible yeah and I and it and it scares me Hank you're you're going nowhere

that's fine go on the top of the draft. Just won an NBA championship. Six Super Bowls. We're chilling. The funny thing is that no matter how bad things get, I think Memes has the most rock bottom, worst case scenario by far. I mean, he'd become a terrorist. Yeah, Memes, outside of having to kill yourself with a suicide vest, what's the worst thing that could happen this year? Just him getting hurt at all Because I think even if he sucks it's better than watching Tim Boyle That season last year was the worst season of all time Tyron Do you know what the craziest thing about like in the eve of the NFL season the craziest thing that can be said right now

For this podcast because you know what me and PFT think about our guys you know Max is very excited he thinks what happened the end of last year is not gonna happen again I don't know that Max is excited though I think he's excited I think he's I think he's nervous he might be nervous I think he's got nerves going in this season but the craziest thing I I think memes is by far and away the most confident person in his team and his team is the New York Jets. Yeah. Is that fair to say? Yeah. I mean the roster is loaded. Yeah. He he memes is like this is going to be an incredible team. Yeah. I mean it doesn't he might be right. It doesn't

sound good though saying the worst possible scenario is that if Aaron Rodgers gets hurt at all because he's 40 years old basically 41 and almost 42 just banking on on him not ever getting hurt seems like you're you're setting yourself up for devastation no he's not he's just not gonna get hurt memes is the wildest fan at like memes always thinks best case scenario at all like he tells me every single day that the Mets are going to win the NL East. They could still come back. To win the NL East? Yes.

They play the Philly seven times. They're down seven and a half. How many games are they down? Seven and a half? Yeah. Okay, so they're just going to win all of them. Yep. Okay.

All right, anything else before we do Hot Seat Cool Throne? Do you want to go Super Bowl winners? Do you want to do MVPs? I have Matt Stafford. It's off the board. I mean, it's not off the board, but it's a little bit of a dark horse. I got Jared Goff. So do I. I like that.

So do I. I got Jared Goff. So here's a fun stat about Jared Goff. 14 out of his 17 games are in a dome. He's a lot of dome. He loves domes. He loves dome. It's going to be dome-fest. Yeah. I like that pick. I like that pick. And what are his odds? I think they're like 25 to one, something like that. 30 to one. Yeah. He only has like three bad weather games or maybe it's two bad weather games. He's

one of the third, I can't remember. He's got the two NFC North games. Right. And they're later in the season. I can't remember what the other outdoor game was. Uh, but yeah. And if they, you know, if they, if they're the number one seed, you just play the whole season at dome, which would be awesome for our friend Jared. Uh, they ha he has, oh yeah. The other, so the third, uh, outdoor game is against the 49ers. So that won't, it's not bad at all. Yeah. Yeah. He plays the Bears in December, late December and he plays the Packers in early December. I got some fun to be sorry. Actually the Packers are in early November. So that might not even bad be bad weather either. So I was thinking about comeback player of the year, right?

Because it feels like go if you'd asked me like three weeks ago, felt like Aaron Rodgers seems like he would be the shoe-in for comeback player of the year. Now we've got a couple wild cards. Ricky Pearsall from the 49ers got shot during an attempted robbery in San Francisco, got the gun from the guy, shot the guy that was trying to rob him.

You got shot through the chest. Got shot through the chest and then shot the robber. And he goes to the him. You got shot through the chest. Got shot through the chest and then shot the robber and he goes to the hospital. He's out 24 hours later. The next day he's at the facility working out. Shot through the chest. I don't even understand that. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that's like, that seems like a comeback player. It seems like he's a dog. Yeah, seems like he's a dog. And then I was reminded that Tank Dell also got shot this off season. Yep. And he's fine.

So now you've got two guys who got shot battling for comeback player of the year, potentially a wide receiver. But, Pierce all got shot through the chest. And he shot the guy that shot him. What about a couple other, like, what about Kirk Cousins? Kirk Cousins, not bad.

What about Joe Burrow Joe burrow There's a lot of guys feel yeah when we had a lot of injuries last year Anthony Richardson if if Anthony Richardson gets hurt this season and I don't want him to and Flacco gets in and goes on a run could flacco win back-to-back comeback players of the year good I think he could tomorrow Hamlin could Still. Coming back from the punt. Yeah. I mean, we lost so many, we lost so many quarterbacks last year that there's, this is a stack stack field.

Yeah. I mean, Justin Herbert, could he? Why not? Yeah. Comeback player of the year. I'm looking right now. Sam Donalds. Oh, Nick Chubb.

Nick Chubb. I thought about Nick Chubb. He probably won't be back until like midway through the season Mmm, I heard different reports you heard I heard I heard from an insider careful It might be because I drafted him in the fantasy league that he's the commissioner of but I heard that Nick Chubb if They could have he could have played as early as week one with a few touches Okay, but they want they thought it'd be safer just to put him on the pop

So so your inside information is that he feels good Could play right now could play right now play right now report it a couple touches could play right now right now Like right this second if we're like hey Nick Chubb carry this football done. Yeah, so I'm still gonna go with the gunshot guys Yeah, I feel like I feel like Ricky Peter. That's just a crazy story. Crazy. And he's a rookie. So he just has to have like a average rookie season to be comeback players. So yeah, can you come back? Can you get comeback player of the year as a rookie? I don't know. I don't know. I think you can if you're coming back from being shot in the chest. Yeah, I think so. I don't think so.

I think so. He got shot through the chest through the chest All right, what's your Super Bowl picks? I have chiefs over lions I Got lines over chiefs Oh like that I'd much prefer that Eagles over chiefs Oh little revenge. It'll be the same story arc as the same story arc. The Eagles pay tickets, two tickets that you know that story arc. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If the Eagles are in the Superbowl,

we're doing the same deal. You're going to get drunk the night before. You're going to drink champagne. You're going to wear the pants. We're going to make fun of you. We're going to throw your phone in the water. We're going to puke. We're gonna make fun of you. We're gonna throw your phone in the water We're gonna puke. I do we're literally just gonna play it back People love the first verse. I think the city of Philadelphia would legitimately murder me. I think I think they would assassinate We made him put on the pants. I mean, but what a what a story that would be It's like Max has the opportunity to either win a Super Bowl or probably get killed. Yeah That's a that's a big story. Hank, you're a Super Bowl. I kind of had what PFT had. So I don't want to copy it. I'll

think of best case content for this show. Bills losing to the Packers. Oh, you've why? Why is that best case? He knows he gets his season. Listen, there's a theme. Hank's had it out for me this week. I think what it is is as soon as Hank has is blaming the end of summer on me. I think that's what it is. No, that's just a fact. That's the best. Tyler Van Dyke. I don't know. I don't matter. Eberflussuss sees Wisconsin thing was Quincy. I just happened to be watching your but you're I I am now even flu is being held accountable for for the calendar changing. I think that's what's happening. I don't think the Bears like best case obviously would be the Bears or the commanders making the super bowl. I don't think they're there yet. Okay.

Couple years away. What about Matty Rose Dan Quinn and Matt Eber? Yeah, we kept them around for a reason, right? But I don't think a rookie QB would be that'd be impressive But I don't think it's gonna happen this year So for the content sake of the show I guess Eagles losing Would be good for the Eagles to lose to Eagles losing to the Bills would be good. What about Eagles losing to the Jets? Yeah Yeah What about Eagles losing to the Jets? Yeah Yeah Yeah

That would be the two I mean we would all have to go to the Super Bowl with them Yeah, and just sit there and just watch them Now we get awkward. What do you mean? I I don't know. I like it would get uncomfortable in the booth. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be great Holy shit, it would just look we'd flip all the cameras for like a couple weeks afterwards where the show is like We're just sitting here. We're the booth and you guys are the show. Oh My god, oh My god, that's that. Hey, what a pic

Okay memes, what's your pick? Jets, Eagles. OK, great pick. Good. That's such a good pick. You guys are uncomfortable right now thinking about it. Yeah, I'm a little bit uncomfortable too, because you know what Max would do to memes.

What? It'd be bad. No, I think memes would make memes would make me angrier. Or yeah. Oh yeah. And then you'd do something bad. We'd probably fight. Yeah it would get it would get bad.

It would get physical. Max you know. It would be awkward. I'm gonna say right now I don't have the power to do this but I'll talk to Dave. I think that if the Jets and Eagles play in the Super Bowl, I think physicality is allowed. Like we'll just rip up the contracts in like a one week. Like if one of you punches the other person, no repercussions. Physicality is allowed.

Or they have to watch the Super Bowl with giant inflatable boxing gloves. Yeah. At all times. Or no, like they grease up the light poles in Philly, we'll just grease memes up. So you can't really get a good hit Yeah, I mean it would be a good story for the show where it's just like yeah Remember when the Eagles and Jets played in the Super Bowl and memes and Max got enough fistfight That would be no good I would be I want to see you guys fight so bad. I mean no good. Oh All right, do we want to do least improve player? Yeah least improve player Dak. I like that

I just don't think is it's not gonna be any different He's gonna be fine make a make a graphic for our whole show least improved player part of my take that Scott Prescott Yes, perfect. We have five votes. Yeah, he's I mean, I'm not I'm not saying he's gonna have a bad season No, he's just not gonna improve at all. Yeah unanimous on the ground Yeah Hey, do you agree? I was thinking Joan hurts, but I'm fine with unanimous. Okay, Jill hurt. Oh, yeah, just ruined a unanimous Yeah, I said he had my second place vote. Yeah. All right, let's do hot seat, cool throw, and then we'll get to our interviews.

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My hot seat is the USC Trojans. Oh College football is back college football hype videos are back. Yes, and USC posted a video before their game Where they were in a Trojan horse? Mm-hmm, but USC was inside the Trojan horse. Okay but the Trojan horse story is how The Greeks used the Trojan horse to defeat the Trojans to defeat the Trojans Yeah, I got you, but they're taking it back. So USC did a video where the Trojans were in a Trojan horse going To defeat the Greeks Greeks or Notre Dame or whoever. Yeah, but they didn't LSU LSU didn't make any

or Notre Dame or whoever it was. But that didn't... LSU. LSU didn't make any sense. College football expert. Yeah, that's interesting, but it's like they learned from their mistake, so now they developed it as their own weapon. Yeah.

But why would the Trojans deliver a Trojan, who wants a Trojan gift if you're not a Trojan? True. Yeah, if you brought the Greeks a bunch of Trojan horses, they'd be like, we've got seven Trojan horses back there. We use one in each war. Yeah.

We know this trick. Yeah. Yeah. That's the dumbest prank to ever succeed, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, I'll take this giant horse for some reason that you're dropping. Oh, yeah.

I want this horse in my house. I'll put it right in the middle of our town. Makes no sense. And then we're all going to get drunk and celebrate and pass out around the horse like Burning Man Yeah, they the Trojans deserve to lose that one. Yeah, they got the wool pulled over their eyes I also I thought for a long time that the Statue of Liberty was a Trojan horse from France Oh, and I think that they just didn't find the exit. So there's like thousands of dead French skeletons. I like that idea

Yeah, I think that might be true. You might be honest. I think so. Are you cool thrown? I'm a cool throats us open. Oh, we do talk a lot about How bad some sports are set up I like the way the US Open is set up where they do it at the end of last week going into Labor Day It's on during Labor Day, but it's not the big matches. So it's like it you can watch as you're going and Then it ramps up like it's on today, it's on tomorrow, it's on Thursday, and the big matches are this weekend. Yeah, by the way, we were-

But it's good though, the little wean off of all weekend. It's like there's tennis on all day. They do play during College Football Saturday, which I know you don't care about, but that is the final for the women's So like you're trying to watch Kent State Pittsburgh and they're just uh That's crazy. Also correction from Tuesday show the

FedEx Cup Championship. Yeah, actually was a week late this year because of the Olympics. So it is usually a week before smart smart Yeah, that makes sense. Our bad. Yeah. Our bad. Emma Navarro is in the semifinals. The American, you remember her? She took that selfie with LeBron at the Olympics, smiling through it all,

can't believe this is my life with LeBron. I think she's one of the two billionaires that we've got. It's her and then the daughter or the granddaughter of the Bills owner. We've got just the richest people that play tennis for us in your face world. Yeah Okay, good job Hank. Thanks My hot seat is mr. Pair Mr. Pairs on the hot seat. We're starting NFL season. He's gonna be making picks

He's gonna be making picks making picks memes. We got mr. Pair ready to go. Yes He's ready to go still alive okay still alive and still healthy as our wildlife expert for Scallon informed us of however we were gonna say it I think we got to say no we were gonna wait until he stunk and then say it so that we have an out but we know we were gonna know on the video it's for Scallon but it's weant. But is there a video? That was after. Yeah.

That was off camera. We were going to wait. And if he sucks, we were going to then be like, oh, whoops, it's a girl. Yeah, so Mr. Pear is a girl. Yeah, we should wait. We need it. We won't say that right now.

Just say Mr. Pear. And just say we're going to do it. Yeah, just do it again. And just say we're just going to do picks with Mr. Pear because and just say we're gonna do yeah Just say just do it again and just say we're just gonna do pics with Mr. Pear Because we were thinking about it and like if he's like oh and five then we are like, oh actually it's a girl That's our fault. He was not comfortable in his own skin now. He's gonna win Okay, but on the video that we have for Scalant saying what do you there's a video for Scalant out? No, I don't think so memes. It't gone out yet right I don't not yet

Okay, so just cell phone video, so we just don't put it out. Yeah, we just wait we just wait We got a we got a week cuz he might suck and then we got it. We got to save it for him, okay? Yeah Just do mr. Pair and say we're gonna have picks. He's gonna pick Thursday night. Okay hot seat is mr. Pair mr. Pair the turtle on the hot seat This is really the first test for Mr. Pear. Big time. He kind of wet his beak a little bit or whatever turtles have during NBA season, NHL season. But this is when it counts. This is when legends are made. This is when Larry the Goldfish became a legend. And Mr. Pear is, I mean, he's going to be front and center every Thursday night, right memes?

Front and center. I have to buy a new wood box that'll be my project tomorrow okay okay what what mr. pear has to hit what for us to be like a success yeah 60% 60% 60 I yeah okay yeah that's that's for him to be like a legend you're right you're right 56% you get your money back. Yup. 54% 56 depending on what the No 52 and a half. 52 and a half. Yeah. But he yeah he's got it you're right because he's up against Larry and Larry was what like 60 I think he was 60. Hank has a tattoo. Do you have the picks? Oh it's gone. That's right. Would you get a Mr. Pear tattoo if he went 65%? Ha. I would. Yeah, I would too. If he goes 65%? I'd match.

I'd match. I think it was 59, 34, and 2 or 58, 34, and 2. You had it on your leg. I know. It's one of those 59 and 58. Okay, I think it was 59. But yeah, Mr. Pear's guys were cut out for him. So, he's getting a new box. What's this setup going to look like, Memes? So I think his home now, except everything's going to be removed. I'll put some hay in it.

And then it's going to be like a dude's apartment where you're like, every guy wants this, and it's just a chair and NFL red zone Yeah, random dude, and then we'll pull up the wood and then he goes Have you guys never had a random dude stay over in your apartment? I've always known who the dude was I've woken up several times to a random dude in my apartment I also I also Meem's meem just keeps buying TVs and he doesn't have any TV stands and he doesn't hang them out. Come on. What? Yes

Every week he tells me buys another TV and then he I'm hang them up. Oh, come on. What? Yes. Every week he tells me he buys another TV and I'm like, where do you put them? Where are you putting them? They're on the floor. They're on the floor. So what? I need to see a picture. He won't show me a picture of the living room.

Memes, what do you... How many TVs you got, Memes? Ah, there's four in my living room. And then none of them are on stands? There's one on a stand. It's a nice setup. And what are the other three? They're all the same size.

Okay, that is nice. Okay, but where are the other three? They're all the same size. OK, that is nice. OK, but where are the other three? On the floor. Means are they all the same brand? All the same brand. OK, that's good. We need a picture.

Yeah, we need a picture. I sent one to my dad. We need a picture. So yeah, Mr. Pair's on the hot seat for sure. How do you manage that? Do you have direct TV, or how do you get multiple games on it once? I have YouTube TV.

Yeah, are you addicted to TVs? I think so. I just want to watch every game. But you know, you know, you can watch it with YouTube TV. You can watch four games on one. Yeah, but it just doesn't look the same. Okay, it's true. I mean, you have 1000 TVs. I have. I'm not listen, but they're all in their correct place. I don't have them on the ground. You're right. I shouldn't judge. I was watching nine games on Saturday. It was awesome. I kind of love that though I love the freedom of having an apartment where you just put your TVs on yeah, I Just sent it. Oh my god memes This is ridiculous, what does your girlfriend think I don't have

This is ridiculous. What does your girlfriend think? I don't have one. Oh, no way. This isn't bad. There's stands. There's little stands. That's the most single guy apartment ever. Oh, I am jealous memes. That's how they live in the life. Just sitting there. You're gonna put it in the, in the video. I feel like you're sitting like on a lawn chair too. I'm sitting on my beanbag chair. Yeah. And I love, I love the presentation too, because I feel like you're sitting on a lawn chair too. I'm sitting on my beanbag chair. Yeah, and I love the presentation too, because it feels like you're recreating a cinema. Pug, make sure you put this in the video

so people can watch it when they're watching the episode. It's perfectly symmetrical. All right, so Mr. Bear's in the hot seat, and Memes has an addiction to TV. I want you to get, Memes, I might fund you to just get, I might fund your TV addiction if you promise to never hang any of them. They all have to be on the floor. I want to see, I want to see like nine TVs on the floor. Nine? Nine? Yeah. You can get a couple little ones and put them in like in between the cracks,

you know? Yeah, they're so cheap too. It could be like Coach Chow's basement where he has all his former recruits just like leaning up against the wall. Yeah. Yeah. Do you, you had to be like so Chow's basement where he has all his former recruits just like leaning up against the wall Yeah, yeah Do you you literally like if you're if you're like, oh man, I'm capped out on TVs Boom gonna order another one. Is it like that spur of the moment? Yeah That's so awesome you play video games on one Yeah, the memes live in his best life. Do you have any furniture in your house? I have a couch.

But you're on the beanbag chair. On the beanbag chair. Because it's better eye level for the TVs on the floor. Yeah. Do you have a table? I have a... One table. That sounds like a no.

No, no, no. I was trying to think of the term. An island, right? Okay. But that's it. So you don't have a coffee table. What's on the island? Is it like counter height? Yeah, counter height. Counter height island. I have two little chairs. I actually have a pretty nice apartment. Yeah, you got a bunch of TVs. Bunch of TVs. But you don't have a coffee table. I have two end tables. Okay. This is awesome. Memes, I would love to go over to your apartment and just house beers on Saturday. Yeah, just hang out. And hang out, it sounds like a cool hang apartment.

Yeah. Okay, what's your cool throne, BFD? Oh, my cool throne, that's a good question. Memes. What is my cool throne? Yeah, I mean, Memes' apartment rocks. My cool throne is Max Homa. Max Homa has been named to the President's Cup team. Let's go.

He's captain's pick. Let's go. And I don't, when is the President's Cup team. Let's go! He's captain's pick. Let's go! When is the President's Cup, Hank? Every two years. Yeah, it's off years of the Ryder Cup. Right, so it's this summer. This summer coming up. So we don't know who the President's going to be, but good for Max Homa.

He loves both Kamala and Donald Trump. Yes. So he's going to be excited to represent whoever the President, or RFK Jr. He's a big RFK Jr. guy too. Yes. So he's going to be excited to represent whoever the president or RFK junior. He's a big RFK junior guy too. Yes. So he's excited to represent the office of the presidency. He did play well in the Ryder Cup, right? Max is a country first kind of guy. Yeah, he did that when we were like, he was the only, he and Brooks were like the only two shining hopes that last day. I kind of like our odds this year. Yeah. All right. My hot seat is Billy Napier. We talked about him, Florida head coach. He's already fired per PFT, but it's supposed to be Billy. Billy Napier is on the hot seat because you know it's going

bad for a head coach when he is taking shots at the people on social media in the basements. So he said, if we can focus on those things, talking about good football and not what some guy in his basement in rural central Florida is saying on social media, then we've got a chance to get better. Right? Also, our colleague Nikki smokes who is from Florida pointed out, they don't have basements in Florida. That's what I was looking up right now. And especially not in central Florida, because it's a swamp. Correct. The water table is too high. You can't dig down into the basement.

If anything, you're like staying in an apartment with your mom. Right. Right. So a guy who moved back in with his mom. You're in a condominium. Yes. Yeah. But either way, the minute a football coach brings out the basement, social media basement,

it's over. Yeah. Not a good start. It's also early flight tracking season for college football. Yes. When a football coach brings out the basement, social media basement, it's over. Yeah, not a good start. It's also early flight tracking season for college football. Yes. Because there's been flights. People are now monitoring flights from Gainesville to Oxford, Mississippi right now. Oh.

And they're speculating. Flight tracking season is the best. You guys know that. I love flight tracking season. But they're all over it. So now they're thinking maybe Lane Kiffin. But it also just could be any jet that goes from Gainesville to Oxford. Yes, yes.

Alright, then my cool thrown is Jay Cutler because Kristin Cavallari said that her boyfriend Mark Estes, Montana boy, who's 13 years younger than her, she's having the best sex she's ever had. That's a bit predatory, isn't it? It is, but it's also if you have to publicly say you're having the best sex you ever ever had. That's a bit predatory isn't it? It is but it's also if you have to publicly say you're having the best sex you ever had you're lying. You're either doing that because you're lying or you're doing it just because you know that Jay Cutler will see it and get angry. So J1 because that's you don't you don't just come out and be like oh I'm having the

best sex ever. That's you're lying and and J1. I'm having the best sex ever. Yeah Lying lying lying. Why I'm having off. I'm having the worst sex my life right now. Yeah, that's true So you just don't talk about your sex exactly if you don't talk about your sex You can just people just assume you're having the best sex ever the minute you say you have the best sex ever Everyone's like dude. That's a lie. I'm having no sex. What does that mean? You're telling the truth Dude, that's a lie. I'm having no sex. What does that mean? You're telling the truth. Oh, but yeah, J1J1.

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app today use code PMT to easily score great deals with the new game time picks. What time is it game time. OK here he is Pete Prisco. OK we now welcome on one of our favorite guests. He's the spiciest meatball in the world. It is senior NFL columnist for CBS sports dot com. Is that by age by age. He's the he's literally they can't believe that he's still working and analyst for CBS Sports HQ. It is Pete Prisco watches the film watches the tape. Watcher was on the Russell Wilson stinks far before anyone else. He was on the Russell Wilson stinks even when he was really good. He was winning Super Bowls. He's like this guy is going to stink at some point when he's like 36. Yeah, when he was winning Superbowls. He's like, this guy's going to stink at some point

when he's like 36. Pete Prisco, Pete, we're on the eve of the NFL season. There's no better. There's no better time right before the NFL season starts. Let's start here. What's the spiciest take you got right now that everyone's coming after you for that you think you're going to be right and everyone else is wrong. The Packers are going to win the Superbowl. Oh, you motherfucker. I knew you would love that. God damn it. Why? Is this a schedule thing? Cause we remember last year with the Jaguars, we looked at the schedule. You had them at what? 12 wins last year? 13, I think 13 wins. Yeah well they were they went they went in in November as the number one seed. You forget about that on a Sunday

night and the quarterback got hurt. Let's not forget. Oh right. Yeah no you're right. You're right on that. They were never going to get to the Super Bowl but the Packers are yours. Your Super Bowl champions. Why? Besides Jordan Love being what seems like an up and coming superstar with how he finished last year, why is it so different? Because A, I think you get those receivers all together now. They didn't play barely at all together last year. Watson's on the field. He's a big play receiver. You're going to open things up with that guy. Then you look at the running game, I think they're more physical in the running game than they've been.

The offensive line will be bigger and stronger, but more than, we know it's love, but more than on the other side of the ball, they weren't very good. But now they bring in a defensive coordinator, Jeff Haffley, who can get after it. They're gonna be aggressive, they're gonna play more press man,

they're gonna attack the quarterback. I love what they've done on defense, and I love what they're doing on offense. They're the best play more press man. They're going to attack the quarterback. I love what they've done on defense and I love what they're doing on offense. They're the best team in that division. I don't want to hear it, but they are. Are you now counterpoint to what you said. Obviously their win Thanksgiving Day was impressive against the Lions and they beat the Chiefs who were reeling at that moment. Are you worried though that there was maybe a little smoke and mirrors with how they finished the Chiefs who were reeling at that moment. Are you worried though that

there was maybe a little smoke and mirrors with how they finished the season? Needing three wins to get in the playoffs and they beat the Panthers barely, the Vikings on their third quarterback and my Bears who sucked, who I deluded myself thinking they could win that game to get into the playoffs. Yeah, but you could flip it forward and say they went down to Dallas and beat the Cowboys and then went to the 49ers and should have won that game. Yeah, I'm just, I'm, I'm looking at being like that last, that the end of their season last year was a complete fluke and they suck. So I understand that stupid. Yeah. You're hoping you're wishing. Yeah. But Pete, isn't it fair to say like we don't have enough

body of evidence, not enough body of work with Jordan Love? Well, you can say that about CJ Stroud too. Does anybody say that about him? I think, yeah, they do. I mean, they say he's really, really good, but they say it's his rookie year he just did it once, and they're not giving him a massive contract after that, obviously. Yeah, but from that, if they could, they would though.

That's true. From that standpoint, you make a good point. Both of them probably have to do it all over again, but haven't you seen enough to give you an idea that you're a believer in both of them? Okay, I'll give you this for you. If Jayden Daniels goes out and throws 28 touchdown passes and seven interceptions and Washington wins nine games, are you going to say that he can't do it again? No, absolutely not. No, absolutely. But that's because I already know he's that

good going into it in my mind. Cause he won the Heisman last year. What did Jordan love do last year? Uh, he was, he went to the play deep into the playoffs. No, I mean, I mean the year before that, the year before he watched a lot of football from the bench. So have I. He's like 32 years old. He's been there forever. Okay, good one to start with. That was a good way to get it spicy off the rip. I saw another somewhat spicy take that you had. You did your list of the 100 best players.

You had Patrick Mahomes number one overall. The NFL players disagree with you. Would they have him? I think two or three. Two or three? Yeah. That's mystifying to me. That's a him? I think two or three or three. Yeah. That's mystifying to me. That's a hot take by Pete putting him at number one. Crazy. He might be that by the way, if he wins the super bowl this year and three pieces in the

conversation is the greatest football player of all time already. Good point. Good point. Hank doesn't have his headphones on right now. Yeah. Pete Patrick wants to be the greatest for Pete. You know how I know the chiefs are going to probably be back in the Superbowl is that the conversation now when you're trying to pick them apart is like they'll just like get tired of winning and it's hard to win three. They might be better this year. They probably are better this year than they were last year because last year they weren't through the body of work of the regular season weren't a great team. They obviously got great in the in the playoffs there. They seem like they might be a better team this year. Would you would you agree? Yes, absolutely. Last

year was the year to get them and nobody got them. I mean it's easy to go in every season and say, okay, I'll take the chiefs against the field because they're that good. The coach is that good. Think about this. Andy Reed coaches until he 70 has a chance to get the wins record. We all thought it was going to be Belichick, but Andy Reid actually has a chance to get that coach quarterback. Of course they're better than they were a year ago. They have speed now on offense. They could stretch the field. It's a better team, but winning three in a row, it's never happened for a reason. It's never happened for a reason. It's never happened for a reason. Right you just did it right there. You did the like this is what we're going to pick

a part of the chiefs. So if the chiefs weren't to go to the Super Bowl from the AFC what are your other AFC teams you're like this is the year they're going to take that step forward maybe knock off the chiefs. You'll be happy because I have Buffalo going to the Super Bowl. Oh I love that. Nice Pete Pete. Oh my god Buffalo versus the Packers Did you imagine get a Bill's that might have to get a Bill's tattoo before that game Pete? That would that would make my day if the make my year if the bills went to the Super Bowl That'd be so awesome You guys don't know this the whole idea of the window shutting on the bills is the stupid dumb talk that people throw out there

When they don't pay attention to what's going on As long as Josh Allen is slinging the football in Buffalo, they will have an open window. Period. End of story. And everybody says, well, they lost all these guys from a year ago. They didn't have most of those guys a year ago. Trudevius White wasn't around. Matt Milano is hurt again. He wasn't there last year. The two safeties were banged up all year. The Quan Jones went down early in the season, the best run stuffer. Von Miller was admittedly a shell of himself. And then they talk about digs. Look what digs did in the last 10 games of the season. Nothing, nothing. And it's addition by subtraction. So the way I look at it, Buffalo is going to be a better team than they were a year

ago and they have a legitimate chance to go to the Super Bowl Imagine all those bills fans down New Orleans. They're gonna drink drink so many beers man It's gonna be amazing. It would be wild could you at Buffalo and Green Bay and the Super Bowl in New Orleans? It would just be and it wouldn't be high-end drinking. You know, it'd be a lot of the cheap stuff. That'd be fun I think that would be the fattest Super Bowl I think it would be the fattest Super Bowl. Oh, let's see. I think it would. Wisconsin, definitely.

Yeah. Buffalo's got some heft. You gotta have the winter weight. There's more power in Buffalo than fat, but it's power. They're powerful people. You have to insulate yourself from the elements in Buffalo. Yeah. Beef on whack.

You know, that's the way. I love beef on whack. They just eat food that keeps you warm. That's the trick of loving a buffalo. Yeah. Yeah. It brings all that stuff. Okay. So yeah, so other AFC teams that I want you to pick apart or tell me what your main like bugaboo is, the Bengals. We're big believers in Joe Burrow. I think that the league has kind of forgotten about Joe Burrow because he hasn't been playing. What do you think

about the Bengals this season and do they have a team that could potentially get to the Super Bowl? Absolutely. As long as Joe Burrows on the field, they're a contender. They're like the Bills. As long as that quarterback is on the field, they're a contender. They've gotten bigger and stronger in the offensive line. Now, Mims is banged up, but when he's back, they're big physical offensive line and they're going to have score a lot of points. Defensively, they need some guys to step up, but they have a lot of talent on that side, particularly young guys, you know, the young secondary players. I think they're going to be better than they've

been on defense, but it all comes down to Burrow being on the field and availability is the best ability and he hasn't exactly been there at game in and game out, but I'm with you. When he's on the field, he's fantastic. Okay. What about the Ravens? I know that you don't like Lamar that much because he's one of those running quarterbacks that you look down your nose on. But they should have done better in the play. If they had run the ball in the second half against the Chiefs, we might be telling a different story right now. They got Derrick Henry. Lamar is what, like 12, 15 pounds lighter than he was last year. Which by the way, I'm not so sure that's a good thing, that Lamar Jackson is like 15

pounds lighter. The knock on Lamar Jackson was never, you know, this guy would be great if he wasn't so fat. Right. It was never that. I don't understand why he wants to get leaner. You should be, want that on your, you know, because he needs to be stronger. He's going to take some shots.

You know, by the way, I like Lamar Jackson. You're putting, I don't like quarterbacks who immediately just run, because he needs to be stronger. He's going to take some shots. You know, by the way, I like Lamar Jackson. You're putting, you're putting, I don't like quarterbacks who immediately just run. And he's gotten much better at not doing that. Look at Josh Allen runs. I like Josh Allen. He runs a lot too. But their problem to me right now is their offensive line.

You know, they're actually talking about rotating guys like they did last year. Series and series at right tackle and maybe left guard. I don't like that. I think you need to find five and settle on them and they have issues on the offensive line and if they have problems on the offensive line, it's going to be hard to rush them, rush the football with Henry or whoever's running the ball. Okay. The Texans, the Texans, would you say it's subtraction by adding Stephon Diggs? It is interesting because you, you know, last year was an aberration year where it's subtraction by adding Stefan Diggs or they that it is interesting because you

know last year was an aberration year where it's like I can't believe we have this quarterback that's this good this young and they've got stud wide receivers and now you add a guy like Stefan Diggs. Are you. What would be the whole of the Texans if you were scouting them doing it again as a haunted team. I think that's, that's you got to learn how, you know, that was the same thing that Jacksonville ran into last year. You didn't know how to handle success. And does this team know how to handle success? You think they do, but you never know until you, until you get, you know, teams are gunning

for you week in and week out. You're one of the better teams in the league. You have to learn how to handle that. And I'm not sure they can. The division's a lot tougher. I'm a big Will Levis guy. I think the Titans are going to be better. Anthony Richardson on the field.

The Colts probably should have beat them in the last week of the season, and they might not even made the playoffs. And here's the other thing. As much as we love CJ Stroud, you would have thought the way we talk about him, he threw 40 touchdown passes. I think he threw 24, if I'm not mistaken. It wasn't like it was Dan Marino throwing 48 in his second season. So we got to slow the roll a little bit on this team.

Diggs, by the way, will be on his best behavior because he's on a one-year deal. So yeah, he's going to make sure that he doesn't completely alienate every other team in the league. Correct. He wants to get another contract. He threw 23 touchdowns, I believe, in the regular season last year. Yeah. I mean, that's not a good-

He did miss two games. He did miss two games. That's not a great number. It's not 40. It's not 37. It's not, you know what I mean? He's good. I love what I've seen from the kid.

But again, you got to show us, like you said about your love show us again But more than that this young team has to show us again Yeah, what about the New York Jets? There have been a lot of problems that weren't really problems this offseason But they felt like problems a lot of the time Aaron Rodgers missing out on many camp The Hassan Reddick contract thing that's still going I don't know what is the problem on that just he hasn't shown up to the facility to negotiate the contract?

Or they won't give him a new contract, or they offered him one that they didn't like it, or there's a bunch of things that could be a play there. He'll show up and play. There's only so many earning years in your body, eventually he's going to show up. I mean, they know that. He knows it. He won't sit out the season. Nobody does anymore.

It's too much money being left on the table. Trent Williams will eventually show up. He doesn't get out the season. Nobody does it. It's too much money being left on the table Trent Williams will eventually show if he doesn't get a new contract They all show up and they should show up because again, I say it all the time Every year you sit out or every game you sit out his money. You can't get back. You'll never get it back So we're gonna start it before Trent Trent's just not showing up for games before yeah, and he was a kid then he was it Was that eight years ago seven years ago now? He's an old guy, so he needs to get those. You only have less earning years in your body. He'll show up. Yeah, so what about the rest of the Jets though?

What do you expect out of them? If the offensive line stays healthy, and again, that's a big if. If Roger stays healthy, that's probably a little bit of an if. They'll be good on offense, and they'll score points, and they're going to be a team to watch out for in that division. They're going to push Buffalo. I think they're the two best teams in that division and they're going to push for more than that if they get a second weapon and you know, you know Wilson's going to be a heck of a weapon but who else emerges? Mike Williams coming off a

knee injury, never was a birder to begin with, the tight end position suspect, they need to get more weapons involved so if they can find somebody that steps up, then I think they'll push for a deep into the playoffs in fact. Okay. So AFC is, it is crazy looking at the AFC because there's really not, I mean, besides the Patriots and I don't even know, maybe the Raiders, like there's not a lot of teams that you can be like, we can pretty confidently say they're going to be bad. Who is the Dark Horse team? Because it happens every year where, and it could just be the Jets because they didn't make the playoffs last year, but the team that you don't see making the, you know, didn't make the playoffs last year and

now they're in the playoffs and they had a year that people didn't fully expect. Who? Can't say the Jaguars. No, well they're going to be in the playoffs though. There'll be a wild card team. Okay. Um, well the bangles. Yeah. You want me to throw another team out there for you? Our guy, Jim Harbaugh in LA, they obviously have a lot of talent deficiencies, but he's going to co he's going to win a couple of games they shouldn't win just because of who he is and how he runs that system. Absolutely. And, but I think they're a year away. I think they're like your bears team.

I think they're a year away. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know you had that take. Yeah. What do you, what do you think about the bears? Yeah, I think, I think they're going to be a real push for Super Bowl next year, but I think they're a year away from being a playoff team this year. What does that mean? What's the record?

Nine and eight, eight, nine. You told me nine and eight. Nine and eight is not bad though. Nine and eight is pretty good. Turning around. Nine and eight, I don't know. But you also, we can get back to the Bears in a second. You glossed over talking about the Chargers did you not

see the report that Herbert was stuck in an elevator and Harbaugh was extremely impressed with how he handled himself inside that elevator like a leader yeah and I didn't quite get that by the way I mean what the hell does that mean you didn't pee in the corner like everybody else did what's that mean he wasn't sweating I thought he I yeah You didn't pee in the corner like everybody else did? What's that mean? He wasn't sweating. I thought he, yeah, he didn't sweat at all, but I also thought maybe that meant he wasn't hydrated. If you're not pissing in the corner,

that means that you're not hydrated enough for football. What if you had to go number two while you were stuck in the elevator? What would be a problem? Well, Lamar, Lamar would have had to. He would have been the worst. I was gonna ask you who you think the worst quarterbacks to be stuck in an elevator with.

I think Lamar probably number one because of number two and Probably Russell Wilson because he do like high knees. Oh He would be annoying in there. Yeah, he taught. Yes. He'd probably be number two. He might even be number one Lamar did his business in the corner. You just move away from you know, it would Could get away from Russell kind of an alpha male move, to just take your pants off and take a shit. He probably, he probably go in his pants and let it sit there for a while. Yeah. What, what, how many games do you think Russell Wilson is going to play this year? Barring injury. How many? Four or five. And

then they're going to pull the plug. You got to pull the plug. I mean, what did they see in the preseason or in their workouts that gave you any indication that he's the guy? Or going back to last year when he when he held the ball forever and caused so many sacks in Denver. He's done It's over. I think I think what they're just hoping for is that they get an average quarterback Because with an average quarterback on that team last year, then you're telling an entirely different story. The offense looks a lot better. The defense is still going to be awesome this year. They got them to the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, they're always going to be they're always going to be tough and physical and everything else and want to run the ball. They have offensive line questions. There's, you know, two rookies are going to be starting on that

offensive line. That's questions. And then, again, they've we're looking at the division. What, where are they in the division? They're the fourth team, right? Yeah. I mean, I guess I, I, the Browns are kind of a team that hasn't been talked about a lot just because no one knows what Deshaun Watson's going to do. And when is Nick Chubb going to be back? And like they do the Browns were good last year with Joe Flacco down the stretch, but I have no idea what to expect from Deshaun Watson. No, nobody does. He's played 12 games for the Browns in two years. I mean, you can't know. And when he's been on the field, he's been bad at times. And then he started looking

good at the end before he got hurt again last year. They're, they're the unknown team. You're right about them. They have talent on defense. They got an elite defensive player that can rush the passer and wreck the game. If Watson's good and the offensive line is healthy, and again, their two tackles, their three tackles were hurt last year. Now they have two of them, they're still banged up. You got problems there. Yeah.

Okay, so back to the Bears, Big Cats Bears. You don't seem like you're buying in fully. You said that they're a year away. They've got guys that can get after the passer on defense. They've got who appears to be a great quarterback and Caleb Williams. You've got all the weapons in the world for Caleb. One of the best secondaries in the league. Love secondary. I love the corners. I really love the corners. They might have the best group of corners in the league by the way. I'd agree. So why do you hate the Bears? I don't. I just think this is another team that's got to learn how to win and learn how to have success.

You have a rookie quarterback. It's tough on a rookie quarterback. It's not like they just show up. It doesn't happen all the time. So it's going to be a process. But anyway, you look at the division, I think the Packers are really good. I think the Lions are really good. The Vikings not so much, but I think if you look there, the Bears are the third team in

the division. And so I think combined with everything, I don't think they're going to make the playoffs. Now, would I be shocked if they snuck in as a wild card? No, but I just think it's a year away from when they're really special. Yeah. I mean, listen, if I, if I were, I'm obviously very, very excited about this bear season. I'm very excited about the future because it feels like Ryan Poles is putting the team together the right way. And I do think the defense has some insane talent, but I also will admit that if we played the end of the season game that I did with the Packers, they beat up on some not great quarterbacks down the stretch.

And when they played Kyler Murray and when they played Jordan Love, I know we beat the Cardinals, but Kyler Murray passed all over us. So there is something to be said for that where it's like you got to show it again this year. Yeah, and I love what they're doing on defense. They're building to something special, but again, it's all building and it's not there yet. You've got a rookie receiver you're counting on for big things. He's still a rookie receiver. He's going to be good, but he's a rookie receiver. You know, Keane and Allen, what's he have left? There are questions there.

So I think you add it all up. I think they're a year away. Okay. Okay. And then let's do the NFC. So it feels like one of the, it feels like there's going to be one team that we expect to be really good in the NFC that's just not. And it's like, you know, whether you want to pick the Eagles, the Cowboys, I'm trying to think

who else. Some people have said the Niners. Is there one of those teams that you can think of where you're like, everyone's expecting them to just kind of do the same thing and be a playoff team, but there's something there that is just not right that's going to hold them back. I think Dallas's going to hold them back. I think Dallas is going to win the division. But I also had the Eagles sneaking in. So if you had to, I'd say they both get in. The Niners division isn't very good, I don't think.

I think those teams are coming a little bit, but they're not there yet. So I think the Niners won't be as good as they were a year ago, but I still think they're going to get one or two seed in the NFC. I don't think they're as good as they were a year ago. So they might be the team, but they'll still be in the postseason. As far as a team that made the playoffs last year that's not going to get in, that's hard to figure out because if you look at it, where do they come from? Because I think the Lions, the Packers will both be there again.

I think the Cowboys will Packers will both be there again. I think the Cowboys will be there. The Eagles, I think the bucks win the South. Most people are sleeping on the box because they're all in on Kirk cousins in Atlanta. I'm not. And then I think the Niners will be in the play. And the Rams, I think the Rams will be good. And the Rams. So where's the team that's going to come from nowhere to make the playoffs in the NFC,. But you know, there will be like, we will have you back on that. You know that there will be a team. One of those teams you listed will not make the playoffs. You probably, you would probably pick Atlanta maybe right to be the team. Yeah. I think Atlanta is going to be very good this year. I actually, Oh, I got, I got a spicy one for you, Pete. Are

the saints as bad as we think they are? Cause I think they're like perfectly average and in that division, like they started playing okay ball down the stretch and Derek Carr kind of figured it out a little bit with the new team. Could, could it possibly be the saints? Cause that, that division will be tight. Like no, no one's a juggernaut there. Yeah, no, it's not the same. So I think you talk about a team has major offensive line problems, but more than that, Derek Carr, can you count on him? Week in and week out. And here's the other thing, age is starting to creep in on defense.

Alder Marquis, DeMario Davis getting up in the years. Cam Jordan up in the years. Honey Badger up in the years. And I think you start worrying about that a little bit as well. Okay. So what about Detroit? What's the vibe going to be like in Detroit this year? Because they're one of the teams that was the hunter. Now they're definitely firmly in that hunted category. The way that the season ended last year, that could be like a big thing to get over emotionally. Do you think that carries over into this year, that could be like a big thing to get over emotionally.

Do you think that carries over into this year? You still like them? I think they're talented. Their talent will carry them far enough, but getting back to where they were is going to be tough to do. It's hard to get back there. He even said that after the game. You know, remember Dan Campbell said that, but here's some words of advice for Dan Campbell.

And I love the way coach when he had to coach that way. You don't need to coach that way anymore. Stop with the fourth down going for it all the time. You did that when you needed to do that. You don't do that anymore. Your team is good. You don't need to do that anymore. I disagree with that.

I think he should do it. I think he should do it the same that he's done in the past. It worked. It cost him a chance to go to the Super Bowl. It cost him a chance to go to the Super Bowl because a it cost him a chance to go to Super Bowl because They had some drops in those plays and that happened sometimes in football sometimes You don't catch the ball But I feel like all because I think the team plays hard for him because they like the identity that he puts out there Yeah, we're like we got Dan Campbell fucking Dan Campbell on her side and we can do anything because we believe in this guy

You okay early on when you didn't have as much talent that made sense where your talent is now there on the roster you don't need to play that way anymore. You adjust to your team year in and year out. You can get away from that. If they had come on if they had kicked a field goal late in that game they go to overtime and they might win the game and go to the Super Bowl. Yeah I mean you also say that the field goal is gonna be guaranteed because that field goal kicker was not great They changed them right like that was a I think they brought back the guys going into playoffs though. He made the okay Okay, then we go to getting we go back to Dallas in the regular season Hey, have you played that the right way you might have had a home playoff? I think I need to go back and look at all three of those questionable decisions that he made

because I thought that two of them were good. I thought one of them was really bad. I also, PFC and I kind of agree that like you, if you are, if your MO is to play on the edge and you have your guys like that, I do think that there's a, there's an inherent value of it. Like, Hey, we're going to push it all the time and you can't change. You can't like if he had been scared, Dan Campbell in the playoffs, people would have shit on them for that. Not me. I mean, I, I, I, because I just, you've got to play the percentages. You got to play, you got to play to go to the next play and they didn't

play to go to the next play. He played to win it right there. An analogy that Dan would understand would be that like they're, they're like Metallica where ride the lightning came out. Their fans are like this fucking rocks. The black album came out and you're like this, this team's really, really good. And then if they dropped load, you're like, this is soft. They've gone weak. That's what Dan Campbell, you'd be like load by Metallica if he took his foot off the gas.

So you guys want them to continue to play as aggressively as he's done? Yes, I want even though it cost him a chance possibly to go to the Super Bowl I want Dan Campbell to be Dan Campbell. Yeah, I don't want to change I mean you could be Dan Campbell, but you can be situationally smarter than Dan Campbell No, no, I don't think you can and that's not Dan Campbell. Yes, yes, it is. He's learned. He's evolved. Can't you evolve? Dan Campbell doesn't evolve. Pete, is there a quarterback that you see either taking a step forward this year that we don't see coming or maybe a quarterback that's going to take a step back that people are like, Hey, we think he's

this and, and I disagree. I do not see the same thing when I watch the film, which you do. Will Levis is going to take a major step forward. Okay, I like that. You know who Will Levis is a lot like? You follow his career arc and all the stuff that people said about him coming out and the way they handled him and everything else? Josh Allen. Okay. Same type of thing. Remember? Oh, he wasn't very good as a senior and why was his completion percentage bad and this and that. He's different and everything else. And Will Levis is entirely not the person he's portrayed to be by the media when he came into the draft. He loves it. He lives it. He's like Josh Allen. He's a fanatic

about it. He goes on vacation in Italy and scouts out fields to go work out Why is there three weeks before camp hops over the fence starts working out the cops come? He doesn't know how to speak Italian. They were going to arrest them and he finally got somebody to talk himself out of it That's how much of a maniac he is as a guy who loves the game and you have to be that way That's how much of a maniac he is as a guy who loves the game. And you have to be that way. He's going to have a monster season and everybody who mocked that, made fun of him and mocked his game going into the draft is going to be exactly the way they were with Josh Allen. They're going to be wrong.

So your entire analysis of Will Loves, who we like, he's a friend of the program, is that you think he has moxie because he was able to talk his way out of a bunch of angry Italians trying to arrest him. Well you know how us Italians are. We'll throw anybody. Yeah. That's how you, you heard that story and you're like oh my god my paisan. You know what a criminal you have to be to get arrested by Italians? Yeah right.

I mean that was funny because he didn't know any Italian and he couldn't, at some point he said he was an NFL quarterback and they went, big deal. If that story happens in France, you're not loving Will Levis the same way you're loving him. No, it's the fact that he actually scouted out workout facilities to go when you're on a vacation. That's Peyton Manning-esque. That's weird.

But it's crazy. By the way, he is going to be a big-time player and it's same trajectory as Josh Allen big arm tough kid It's come telling you just keep an eye on it. He's gonna be a star I do like that story though Pete I would have it would have been better if he had snuck into the Roman Coliseum And gotten down there where the gladiators used to be and then practice down there now that now that would be a hell of a story Yeah, that would be a good story. So is there a quarterback that you think will take a step back this year? Step back quarterback? Well, you got the elite,

they're never stepping back. Those guys will never step back. So I guess eliminate them. There's seven of them. Wait, who are your top seven? Oh, you have seven elite quarterbacks? Well, I think Mahomes, Alan, Burrow, Rogers. He still counts Lamar. Oh, am I leaving off there? Stafford? Brock Purdy?

Stop Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy is better than people give him credit for, but's not he's not elite Stafford's not there Herbert. No Lawrence no to a no, maybe it's that's maybe that's it. So top six. Yeah back No, he's not a lead. You didn't say Jalen hurts. He's not he's not there either. Is there a chance it could go bad in Philly. I Think there's a chance but they have so much talent. And look, you know, everybody wants to point to the offensive side of the ball. That should defense was awful. It's awful.

I mean, guys, guys got lazy and they, they wore down at the end of the season. It was just not in the deep pass. Defense was terrible. And they are, everybody goes, Jalen hurts in the coach, Jalen hurts in the coach. It wasn't that it was, it was, the defense was awful. That was a problem. And they look, by the way, they look like they were gave up in that playoff game. That's what they look like. Big time. So Pete in the preseason, we're, we're getting into week one here,

but I'm going to ask you to put coaches on the hot seat, pre-hot seat, preheated on them. Okay. Which coaches should we be looking at? Well, Serriano is on the hot seat Already think about that though. This is how crazy it is He was in a Super Bowl two years ago went to the playoffs last year if he doesn't make the playoffs this year He's probably on the hot seat. I mean we're calling him a stiking merchant. I mean McCarthy's on the hot seat Yeah, I mean if he doesn't win if he doesn't get a deep into the playoffs or win a playoff game He's probably out right? That's too. Let's say so I but I thought that last year too, and I actually thought that the year before that

It's almost like Jerry Jones likes keeping him around because he knows that he can just yell at Mike McCarthy all the time I mean we do Pretend that Jerry Jones is like cuz obviously, you know his entire fallout with Jimmy Jimmy Johnson in the 90s But like he did keep Jason Garrett around for way too long. Yeah, he did. He is maybe too loyal. He is loyal. He is loyal. But I think this is it. Mike, Mike, Mike probably knows it. You don't get that. But you don't win a playoff game. You're probably gone. David, Brian David probably in the ass to show something or he's gone. Yeah. There aren't many though. That's the thing. Cause there's been so many new coaches and so many teams turned over that there's not that many. Dennis Allen, you mentioned the

Saints, he could be in trouble. Yeah. I mean, who even remembers he's coaching? Yeah. I mean, yeah. So yeah, I think there's not that many. Four or five could be on the hot seat, but Sirianni could be. Okay. So we know you have the Packers in the Bills as your super bowl. I got one last question for you Pete and you're the best. We always love your takes. Rowback question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com. Promo code take, 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts and bathing suits, rowback.com promo code take. What is the, what's the, you know, it used

to be Russell Wilson. What is the argument that you find yourself getting into the most online right now where people are saying you're stupid and you're like, hey, I'm Pete Prisco and I watch the tape? By the way, I want my road back Speedo that I can wear to the beach. I want that. Yeah. I don't think they make denim Speedos. If they did, you would have one.

Believe me, I know you would. That's probably true, yeah. The biggest take that gets me in trouble, the Miami Dolphins. The two and on comes at me hard, man. They're rough, they're rough. And now I say they're not tough enough, and that drives them up a wall.

They're pretty, they're fun to watch, they're good in September, but when it comes time to play good teams, or playoff games, or games against big games, or time to play good teams or playoff games or games against big games or big games against good teams, they're one in six last year. That's a problem. You're right about that. I mean, there's, it's, it's just a fact. They haven't had that signature signature win against a really tough team and the way they played in that game against the chiefs, like it was a quit thing. It felt like they quit.

Well, not just that Mike McDaniel is a hell of an offensive coach. Mike being the brightest offensive coach or one of them in the league but he's very tight with his players almost like when you watch their practices and stuff and it's that that always worries me a little bit. I mean like guys go in and out of the drills. When the commanders and Dolphins worked out, the commanders were in full gear and Miami's guys were in shorts and their helmets were off at the beginning of practice. I mean it's just a different feel. And maybe, I mean that's who he is so be true to who you are. But I wonder sometimes

if that, if that flies when you get to tough, toughness and tough games. He's too nice tonight. He's one of those nice guys. Yeah. I mean, at some point that shows up, doesn't it? I mean, isn't the proof in the pudding so far he's got to, he's got to dispel the notion that the dolphins aren't tough enough. Yeah. I'd agree with you. I, there definitely is. It's the buddy buddy thing. Like if you, if they don't win a playoff game this year, I think Mike McDaniel is a hell of a coach, like you said, but if they don't win a playoff game, the seat will start getting a little warm because it's like, Hey, you can break all the records in the regular season. You can have an awesome offense, but you got to win in January. That's what they get paid to do.

And you got to win against good teams. I mean, even if you play good, look at their, their wins last year, they weren't against good teams. You have to beat good teams, one and six against playoff teams and two is no different. I mean, two hasn't been good against the playoff teams either. So those two guys linked together have to be better. And again, I go back to my toughness and I think that matters in the NFL. So who do you think is the toughest team? Oh, Pete, Pete Prisco's toughest team. Well, the Ravens, the Ravens are tough as hell. Always. The Ravens are always tough, physical, nasty, and they replace guys with tough, physical, nasty guys. The Ravens, when you think toughness, the Ravens are always right there with it. And not because of the style of play, you know, just because of the mentality of the organization. They've always been that way. Going back to the, you know,

when they had the best defense in 2000, that group was nasty and it's carried over. The Ravens. They got to get a murderer on the team. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Touch yourself up. A legend. Sorry. And then the Steelers are always tough too. Those two teams, I think if you look at true

toughness, those two teams are tough. That's where I think the Chargers are going to maybe be surprising people because Harbaugh will make a tough team. They will. He'll make a tough team. I saw you guys spawning all over Harbaugh. You loved it. We love him.

He's a great coach. We love him. Sorry you don't have access. He's a great coach. He's a strange man, but he's a great coach. Yeah. So Pete, what about my commanders? Tell me something good about my commanders because I've started to believe just watching Jayden in the preseason, he's so good. He's so good, Pete. And Adam Peters said today,

this would be like reading way too deeply into a quote and actually buying the bullshit that they're selling. They're not rebuilding, they're recalibrating. So they're in win for you. So they're in win-now mode, is what he said. So we're in win-now mode. We're all in, in DC. That's why we traded John Dotson, probably. But tell me something good about him. What's the ceiling that I can expect? Eight, nine wins.

Eight. That's pretty good. I'll take eight. I heard nine. I heard nine. I love Jaden Daniels. He's so good. I think he's the best quarterback in the draft. Sorry, big cat. Daniels. I think he's so good. I think he's the best quarterback

in the draft. Sorry, big cat. I thought he was so good. And having watched him at Arizona state and then watched him play at LSU and now watching him now, he's the most improved quarterback I've ever seen in my life. And I've covered this a long time at ASU and I'm a sun devil. He won very good. What he became at LSU, he was outstanding and he's only going to get better. When I watched him work out and I hadn't seen him play live, when I watched him work out against the Dolphins, he made a throw to the sidelines and that ball gets on that receiver so fast and it makes it throws easy and that's what you want to see. I think the commanders have their guy for the next 15 years and he's going to be a star.

Don't say that Pete, don't say that. I agree with you. It sounds so good hearing somebody else besides me say it. Thank you Pete. Yeah. Love him. I love him. Like I said, I had him as the number one quarterback and Caleb Williams was number two. Well, you don't like Caleb Williams because he cried that one time. No, I mean, I don't like the crying. I admit that. I don't, I,

I, I, I will never back away from that. Crying on your mom after a football game should never happen. And the pink phone, real men should never wear pink. No, I don't care about,

I don't care about any of that stuff. I, who cares? I just think you shouldn't cry after a game. It doesn't, it just should. I mean, I, I told Kyle Long, you know, Kyle Long, I work with him. You don't cry. I never cried after anything't cry after a game. It doesn't it should I mean I I told Kyle long You know Kyle long I work with him. You don't cry. I never cried after anything when I was growing up then Well, you're a tough Italian man. Yeah, that seems like a personal thing. Maybe you should cry more. Yeah, where's last time you cried Pete? Probably over a death or something. I cry over that

Pussy. Yeah, that's now that's. Crying over. Did you ever cry over anything you lost? Pussy. No. If you lost a sporting event, did you ever cry growing up even as a P weekend? I kind of cried a little, like not cried, but I cried a little bit of double doinked, like a little teary eyed. Like kind of, it was kind of like talking crying. No, you did. You cried over a win and a loss of the team you're rooting for? Yeah I cried when when the Caps won the Stanley Cup. I'll admit it. I was so happy. Did you ever cry over losing anything when you were a kid playing sports? No because I never lost. Yes you did. That's true. You just have to be, Pete understands that you just have to be so good to never lose. No you know why I never cried? As long as I did my job and I got my points

or I got my selfish guy. Great team. There is it. There is an eye in price. Go believe me. I'm telling you Pete, you're the best. We appreciate you as always. Hopefully we see you soon and let's have a great season. And Bears will be nine wins and the commanders might be close to them. So you guys will have to be... How many wins will the Patriots have for Hank? Four. Oh, okay. He's expecting that.

I think more. I think more. Play Drake May now, please. Get on with it. Yeah. Get on with it. I think more. I think more. Play Drake May now please. Get on with it. Yeah. Get on with it. Why do you say that? Because why are you holding back? The sooner you get on, you find out what you have, the better off you'll be. And everybody says, well, if you've ruined his psyche, then oh wow, what do you do? Well, you know what? If you ruined his psyche, you drafted the wrong kid. That's true. Yeah. I agree with you. All right. Thanks so the wrong kid. That's true. Yeah, I agree with you Alright. Thanks so much Pete. You got it

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was the Barstool Gold era. An incredible interview. It is our friend Forrest Gallant who is a scientist. What are the official things behind what you do? Wildlife biologist, adventurer. Okay. Now I'm just singing my own praises over here. Wildlife biologist, adventurer, make make TV shows that kind of yes So a lot of people are familiar with you, but it's very funny because we were talking about having you you're in town We're like, yeah, let's have them stop by we loved having them on the first time and then it dawned on us that it was During the Barstool Gold era. Yeah, so

This should be new to a lot of other people for sure. Thank you for coming by my pleasure Yeah, I just thought we were going drinking So here we are. Yeah, we put your ass on pay-per-view last time. Yeah, that's right on the paywall. That's right. I forgot about that That's right. That's funny. Yes It's gonna be fun to talk to you because I've been following some of your stuff recently And I listened to I think it was your most recent podcast where you came up with business ideas And I really liked I really liked your business idea, which was, was it the toxic masculinity gym?

Oh yeah, yeah. That would do well in Chicago. Where I live in Santa Barbara, I don't think it would fly. Out here though, that could be a thing. Wait, why is Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara soft? It's soft. Yeah. I love it, I'm definitely gonna get some hate for saying this, I love living there,

it's a great town, it's a soft town. I don't think you can get, I don't think you can get hate for that because like California, once you go to California, you just become soft, but that's not in a bad way. It's just life is just more pleasant. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, the weather's nice. You don't have to be grumpy all the time. But yeah, no, toxic masculinity. Just a gym where it's nothing but bros and death metal and Hooters girls are working there. and I forget what else we said in our It's like a Zen station. I think that's it. There's a station, you know, you mix your pre-workout like there's a there's a shaker there

They mix it for you There should be a girl that's working out doing very suggestive stretches and then you then you approach her and you're like, hey Don't do that in my gym. My gyms not here for social media. My here's my gyms here to work out That's it But you're filming that entire interaction for your social media. Because on your end, you're like, listen, I'm the hero of the story.

Exactly. 100%. I think that's a good idea. So give a quick explainer for the people who might not be familiar with you. You basically have lived your life outdoors. And you are one with nature in a way that we have never been.

So you grew up in Zimbabwe and California, correct? That's right. Yep. So yeah, tell us the backstory of like, when did you start falling in love with nature and animals and being like, this could be a real living here where I go look for animals that people think are extinct or- For sure. ... do all these videos?

Yeah. So I grew up in the Southern African country of Zimbabwe. My family ran safari businesses. So since I was really little, the only thing I really knew and cared about was wildlife and being outdoors. And in 2001, Zimbabwe had like really bad political turmoil. So my family came to the US as refugees and I came with them, bounced around government housing, all kinds of things, trying to get our feet under us.

And the only thing that was like a common thread throughout my life, the only thing I really cared about was being outside and being kind of feral. My sister grew up the same way and she works in fashion, so I think it's just the way I'm hardwired. Yeah, so went to school, became a biologist academically, graduated, thought I was going to change the world, wasn't changing the world as a biologist. Then through a whole bunch of weird series of events, I got the opportunity to go on camera and talk about wildlife and that reached millions of people.

And I was like, this is it. This is how I can actually make a difference in wildlife and conservation. And now I've been to, I don't know, 80 plus countries, been bitten by everything, stung by everything, caught everything, had everything catch me. You know what I mean? Just doing it all over the world and I love it. It's what I live for. The break you had was you were on Naked and Afraid, right? Had to bring it up, huh?

Yeah. You dominated it. I did, yeah, I did. So yeah, so the first thing I ever did, I came home from being a biologist, flopped down on the couch, I was exhausted, spent three weeks in a hazmat suit in like 100 degree weather, spraying weeds,

and my girlfriend at the time was like, you gotta go on this stupid survival show. I spent three weeks in a hazmat suit in like 100 degree weather spraying weeds. And my girlfriend at the time was like, you gotta go on this stupid survival show. Like I know how good you are at this stuff. And I went and did it, went back to being a normal biologist and the show came out and I crushed it. Like I had one of the highest survival scores

in the show's history. I thought it was like a vacation. I had a blast. I barely lost any weight, unfortunately. And then yeah, I was like, this is my opportunity. So I started actually writing TV shows and putting them together, like reality shows, unscripted adventure shows.

And it took three years from when Naked and Afraid came out till I, it wasn't long before I saw you guys, where I walked into my now business partner's office and was like, hey, let's do this show, he owned a production company, and he was like, yeah, let's try it. And I was like, holy crap. And then it managed to get a pilot and get picked up and turned into a series and another series and so on.

That's awesome. That is very cool. Because you have a lot of the reality television, people go on reality television and then they're like, oh, I'm talented in this way. You actually were talented. Right. Went to reality television for one episode, and that luckily helped spawn what you are now. Well, my whole thing is I've always just stayed true to what I care about, which is wildlife. So even while I was in Naked and Afraid in the jungle, running around with my balls out, I was grabbing snakes and talking to them

in the camera, and the guy's like, are you gonna kill this thing and eat it or not? And I was like, oh no, I just wanted to tell you about it. And they're like, well, that's weird. So I've just always sort of stayed true to what I care about, which is talking about wildlife and adventure, because I think, I think when people connect to the outdoors, it's the best thing for them. Yeah.

When you moved to the United States from Zimbabwe, were there any animals that like we take for granted here in the United States that are around everywhere that you became fascinated with because you're like, oh, this is new, this is interesting. Oh, big time. So Salamanders and newts are like a new world species meaning they don't occur in Africa And I remember like we came to Oakland, California in the early 2000s. It was a rough neighborhood back then and My mom got a call from the Oakland Police Department because I'd run off from our like little apartment building and I was waist-deep

in the in the middle of the park catching newts and they'd come and grab me and pulled me out. Cause they're like, what are you doing here? Cause it's like, you know, San Francisco, everybody's walking around in their North face jackets. Like they're not, they're not like a kid in the mud in the middle of a park catching newts.

And I was just like enamored with these things. I'd never seen like a water lizard before, you know? And then underwater California is epic. Like there's white sharks and seals and sea lions. I grew up in a landlocked country, so all the ocean stuff was incredible to me. Yeah, so what's the scariest animal that you've ever encountered, like,

not face to face, but pretty much face to face? I mean, scariest animal for me is mosquitoes, hands down. It's a boring ass answer. Shit, so we've done, we've kind of done- We're adventurers. You've done it. I'm a real wildlife expert myself. Wait, why we've done, we've kind of done. We're adventurous. You've done it. I'm a really wild life expert myself.

Wait, why are mosquitoes just because they have all diseases? Exactly. They carry the worst stuff. Okay. Yeah, but that's a boring answer. I mean, I've had some pretty bad stuff. Couple sting ray stings, charged by an elephant. I've had my canoe flipped by a hippo.

We've had some close calls. That sounds scary to me. The hippo, I've always heard that the most dangerous animal Yeah, they're the most Unpredictably aggressive so they can be totally calm and then just kind of snap, you know, what is that about hippos? Well, what it is is hippos are they're not actually like a very aggressive animal They're just a very nervous creature and if a hippo can't submerge meaning go all the way underwater That's when they panic and attack. So their fight or flight is almost always fight. So if you trap a hippo in any situation where it can't go underwater,

it feels like it has to fight to get out of that situation. So if you're taking your canoe and the river banks on this side and the canoe's stuck between you or the hippo stuck between you in the deep water, he's going to flip your canoe over. He's going to try and kill you to get to that deep water. So any situation where they feel even slightly cornered, they're like time to so that's so hippos aren't really like it's not they're ferocious. They're just kind of like nervous bitches. Totally a hundred percent. And people don't know this. They either think they're cute and cuddly or they're

just nervous. They're like they're like on edge. You know, just needed someone to be like they smoke a little weed and just be like, dude, it's OK. You've got to start shooting them with Xanax. Yeah. And then they'd just mellow out. Yeah. They're so big and strong and fast that when they do get nervous, they can kill anything. Yeah.

100%. There's probably animals that are like them out there that have that same nervous energy to them. Right. That just don't have the ability to murder anything. That's it. Right? What about that crocodile Gustav?

Are you familiar with the legend of Gustav? I am. Because I've heard both sides on Gustav some people think that some of his numbers are Inflated some people think that they're not inflated enough, so can you just explain like who Gustav is and whether or not? He's the real deal yeah Gustav was a notorious crocodile that allegedly killed what like 12 people or something like that I think it was way more than that more than that and he was allegedly I want to say 26 feet long something like that It was supposed to be the largest crocodile in history. You guys can fact-check me on all of this I think those numbers are likely inflated But because the numbers that are attributed to Gustav are 200 to 300 people. Okay, so a little more than 12

Yeah, but he was a famous man-eating crocodile that was said to be like 26 feet long or something like that. My take on that is definitely a true man eating crocodile. Crocodiles are one of only three animals in the world that actually choose to hunt and eat people. Wait, what are the other two? Polar bears and tigers. They want us as snack.

They will actually choose to eat people. Like everybody thinks of sharks, right? Oh, sharks eat people. Sharks don't want to eat people. Like everybody thinks of sharks, right? Oh, sharks eat people. Sharks don't want to eat people. No interest. Right. Polar bears, tigers, crocodiles, choose want to eat people.

Oh. Yeah. Okay. And which is scary because I'm going to do polar bears for the first time in like three weeks. So. You are? Yeah. Just bring them up. Well, we, we like, we drink Pepsi here,

but you could bring them the other one. Yeah. Here you go. Have a focus smile. There you go. Yeah. Here you go. Have a focus smile. There you go. Yeah. Are you afraid of polar bears? I I've heard that you, if you are in an area with polar bears around, you just need to be like always awake, high alert, because if they smell you, they can

smell you from miles away. Right. And if they want to kill you, you're already dead. I, I think that's relatively true. I'm, I wouldn't say I'm scared of them because I've never experienced them, but I'm wary because it's a totally different thing. And we're doing it on foot up in the Arctic in Canada,

which I've never done before. So I'm really looking forward to it because my whole thing is figuring out all these interactions with wildlife, but it's a little bit different from like, oh, if I touch that snake, it might bite me. That's a little bit different from like, oh, there's a polar bear somewhere around camp. So it'll be interesting, but I'm really excited for it

What's the what's the gnarliest? snake that you've been bitten by Hmm the gnarliest one is probably and to be clear I don't try and get tagged by any of these things, but you've never you know you've definitely tried a couple times There's there's a couple snakes where you're like, go ahead, bite me. Oh, for sure, I was doing that at a pet shop yesterday. You're a sick fuck, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. But the gnarliest one is probably when I was a teenager, I got bitten by a little snake called a rhombic night adder, but when you're a kid, the venom from that can potentially kill you, and it did put me into a small coma for a couple days. Holy shit. Yeah, so I me into like a small coma for a couple of days. Holy shit. Yeah, so I was playing with a snake down by the dam

at our farm, I was 14 years old, 13 years old. And I got bitten playing with it and I was like, oh, that's not good. So I circled it on my arm and I wrote the name of the snake down on my arm. I jumped on my little Peewee 50 motorbike to rush back to the house to tell my mom. And I just remember like my vision going like this and

The next apparently like some of the guys that were working on the farm saw me just like wipe out and they thought I just like Hit a hit a bump right and wiped out So my mom came grabbed me threw me in the truck and saw that I'd written it and circled it on my arm Rushed me to the hospital and they were able to wow So if you hadn't written that down you could have died maybe because they would have thought I would just be you Yeah, you know in a bike accident exactly. Yeah, that you got in a bike accident. Exactly. Yeah, that was probably the worst one.

You think that it's because you live in Santa Barbara that you have to go out and seek all these extreme, uncomfortable sometimes behaviors? If you lived in Youngstown, Ohio, would you still have that thirst to go out to the Australian outback? Probably more so, right? I mean, maybe not if I'd grown up in Ohio, but I think for me, it's not really about the thrill seeking. Don't get me wrong.

I won't tell you I don't enjoy it, but it's more about communicating to the world how cool are these creatures, how cool are these adventures, trying to inspire people to care about the planet and getting outside and specifically the wildlife. Yeah. One thing you do a lot of is, I guess, describing whether or not animals that are listed as extinct are actually extinct. Yeah. Truly extinct, because sometimes they

get put on the list because they're hard to find. Totally. And they're in these remote locations. It's expensive. It's cost prohibitive to go there and spend all those resources trying to be like, oh, here's a seahorse that I found that nobody's seen in like 20 years or whatever.

Exactly. I had a thought, though. Sometimes would it be beneficial if there's an animal that is let's say almost extinct Let's say maybe there's like 50 or 100 left in the wild would be beneficial to have Whatever the governing body is say yeah the animals extinct because that way people won't go and try to hunt it anymore I've thought about that as well like from an ethicality standpoint the problem is if you do that It's like turning a blind eye so there's no protections that can be put in place.

So if you do that in an insanely remote place where nobody's actually looking for the animal or hunting it, sure, that could be beneficial to let sleeping dogs lie. But without exposure, there's no protections, right? Whereas, like, for instance, like with the leopard that we found or the tortoise that we found, if we hadn't gone and found those, nothing would have been done to attempt to preserve it. Likely somebody would have come along

and just shot it or collected it and you never would have heard about it, right? Because it would have just ended up in soup or a skin or who knows what. So I think as long as it's handled the right way, the exposure for something that's been lost to science is really important because then all of a sudden the government can come in and go,

let's figure out how to protect this. Does it mean building a national park? Does it you know collecting them and bringing them in in a facility like whatever it happens To be to try and help and hang on what what's your white whale animal that you think might not be extinct that you want to find There's a couple I think right now the one that's at the top of my list This is as recent as like three days ago is I got a piece of information on it's gonna sound like a snooze But the pink-headed duck, which is a little duck that lives in Asia with a bright pink head that hasn't been seen

in like 50 years. And I got a tip. I got a tip, yeah. Got a tip, baby. A duck tip. This is a pretty cool looking duck. It's cool, right? It's pretty, yeah.

That's so funny that you got a tip. Some be like, yeah, I saw him down by the 7-Eleven. My duck guy in Mongolia hit me. Yeah, yeah, you guys don't have a duck guy? But yeah, so I got a tip for this area in Myanmar that's a big swamp that this guy thinks he's seen several of them in the last few years. And so we vet a lot of these things. It could all be smoke and mirrors, but it also could be legit.

Yeah. So what else? What other ones? That one's very high on my list. The one that sits on the top reigns supreme is an animal called a thylacine. Do you know what that is? Yeah, that's the, uh, the w no, not a werewolf. Uh, it's like a werewolf. Yeah. Yeah. Tasmanian tiger. Okay. Other name for it. Yeah. So, you know, I've gone to, uh, to Tasmania and tracked it there and not found anything. I've gone to Australia twice and

looked for it there and not found anything. And because that used to range like 4,000 years ago, all the way from New Guinea, Papua New Guinea, Australia and Tasmania, there are still ongoing reports from like tribes and villages of striped dogs and all these things in Papua New Guinea. So that's the area that I think needs the biggest exposure. And we have this whole plan put together, 300 trail cameras, the whole thing to like go out and do a big survey to find this thing in Western Papua so

that's like the white whale right yeah that's the top of the charts but it's funny because that animal has now developed a somewhat like Bigfoot demeanor it's from Australia right Australians are crazy so they're all like they see it like they're Bigfoot so it's a bummer because it's not a made-up cryptid thing it's a legit animal right it's not a made-up cryptid thing. It's a legit animal. Right. Just nobody's seen one since the, I don't know, 50 years or whatever it is. That's crazy.

There was one in the National Zoo. In Hobart, yeah. Yeah. In Hobart, Tasmania, they had one named Benjamin. Yeah, so this is like a legitimate animal. Oh, yeah. And people, when was the last sighting of it? I mean, record, confirmed sighting was like 12 years.

It was like seven or eight years after Benjamin died, whatever that year that is, the one in the zoo. But unconfirmed, probably yesterday, right? You have all these like Australian rednecks out there in the middle of the country going, I saw one, it ate my sheep. They don't sound like that, but yeah. So there's reports coming in all the time.

That's fascinating. So how do you do that? If you wanted to go to Papua New Guinea and find the thylacine? What's your strategy? How do you go about finding an animal that nobody's seen? Well, it depends on, each of these things is unique, right? Looking for a snail versus looking for a Tasmanian tiger, two very different surveys and structures

and everything else. For this, we need a big group of people. It's like a three week trek into the area that we want to go. Then we'd establish a base camp. We'd spread out from there and do baited cameras, drone surveys, sound traps, all kinds of different technology for up to like three months and then collect all the data and go through it. And some of that's actual trapping, some of that's sitting in blinds,

some of it's just, you know, remote cameras, trail cameras, things like that. So it's a big to do to put it all together, but we have some real hot tips from that. Have you ever, I mean, that sounds incredible, what goes on behind trying to find an animal like that. Have you ever had luck where you've just shown up and seen it like day one? Oh yeah. So the biggest find we've ever had is this Fernandina Island tortoise,

which is, it's literally the rarest animal in the world. There's only one known living individual, and it's the one that we found. And before that, they'd only ever seen one before 114 years ago, right? And we, it's funny, because somewhat controversial, but I remember talking to the government in the Galapagos and being like, hey, we're gonna go look for that. And the guy literally like laughed

at me. Like you're what a clown basically. Right. Like sure. Permit approved. Go like knock yourself out. Right. Like quit wasting my time. And we went there and we found it on day three. What? Yeah. And we like had like a whole like massive survey. We're going to cover the Island, blah, blah, blah. We were just hiking. It's like swimming or on the land. No, it was on land. It was on land. We came over this little lava rock ridge into this green area and we're like, there's tortoise poop. Five minutes later, we're like, there's the tortoise.

Holy shit. It was like, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it, but I dove on it like it was a cheetah, it was a tortoise. And I just picked it up. It was like, holy shit, holy shit. That's crazy. You know, like the rarest animal in the world. And how old was that tortoise?

Probably around 70, 80 years old. Wow. Yeah. We have a fox turtle here. His name's Mr. Pear. Yeah, Mr. Pear. He's the only of his kind because he's the only gambling turtle. We're going to go wrestle him after the show. Okay. Yeah. I was in the Galapagos, this was like 12 years ago and I did this big tour and we had a local guy that was showing us around every day. And so on day four we were there. He was like, this is going to be my favorite day of the tour. You're going to meet Lonesome George. Yes.

The last of his kind, right? Yeah. What was he, a Pinta Island tortoise or something like that? Exactly right. Yep. He's like the last of his kind. Some people said he was 80. Some people said he was like 170 years old.

And everything in the Galapagos, there's just flags and merch that you can buy everywhere with Lonesome George's face on it or his body. And so I'm psyched. And we're getting down from the beach, he's driving us back in this little Jeep and then he pulls over to the side of the road because he's getting a call and he starts to cry. Oh no. And he's like, Lonesome George just died.

He died probably eight hours before I was going to see him. No way. I was so bummed out. But now I'm thinking like maybe there's another Lonesome George out there. Well there is. It's our tortoise Fern, right? And she's the one, like it's a different species, the Fernandina versus the Pinta.

But so the tortoise we found lives in Lonesome George's old enclosure. Oh, cool. She lives right there at the Faso Lorena breeding center now. So now do you have to find a male to? That's the goal. Yeah, not, so I handed that over to the Galapagos government.

Like I'm like the hide and seek king, right? They just bring me in to find it and then I roll out. And they've unfortunately conducted three or four more trips trying to find another one and not succeeded. So they're continuing to try. I wish them the best, but so far no luck. There's gotta be girl out there. Gotta be.

It can't be a sausage fest. So once they get this, if they were to find a female tortoise and introduce it to that habitat, then you run into the second problem, right? Because tortoises, they don't really like to fuck that much. So the one we found is actually a female. So they're looking for a male. Okay. If they found-

He's got to be horny. He hasn't, yeah. He's been by himself in the woods. For probably a hundred years. Yeah. I want to get his rocks off. So yeah, no, I mean, if they found them and put them together, I think it would probably happen. And the is that you because they're all pretty closely related You could probably take any male tortoise of any of the other species and put it in there and it would probably happen But that'll obviously muddy the gene pool, right? It's its own species. So I hope they find a male I really do we saw evidence of another one like two or three miles from the one we found

So I think there are maybe some more individuals on that island What's that feeling like when you see something that people thought was going off the face of the earth? What's the rush? The first time it happened, I actually didn't believe it was happening. And I was sitting on a bus in Zanzibar and reviewing thousands of trail camera footage.

Trail cameras like a game camera you put out in the woods. And I was like clip, clip, clip, clip, clip. And you don't film me reviewing every clip because the odds of finding something are nearly nothing, right? All of a sudden I clicked and I saw this leopard just walk across the camera frame. And I like looked around, I was like, this can't be real.

And I clicked it again, clicked it again, clicked it again. And then I threw my laptop off, ran over, head butted my sound guy, swear to God. Like I literally like blacked out. Like I just lost control. I was like, pull the bus over, pull the fucking bus over. Somebody thought I was like dying, you know what I mean? I just like freaked out.

I might've pissed myself, I'm not even sure, but no, I didn't. But it was, you know, I just like lost control. Like I couldn't actually believe it had happened. And then, you know, since then we've found a lot of really rare stuff. So I'm starting to get slightly more used to it, but the rush never goes away.

Yeah, I would imagine, yeah. It's the rush never goes away. Yeah, like magic Yeah, it's the rarest thing in the world like for me, you know to find that to me is there's no greater accomplishments Yeah, what about here in in North America in the United States? Are there any animals that have been labeled extinct that you think maybe still exist? Yeah, there's one that uh Did you guys have colossal the de-ext company, on one of the Barstool shows? I think you did, Ben Lamb. He might have been on one of the shows. Yeah, not yours, but one of the shows.

I think he was on a Barstool thing, but I'm working with him at Colossal Biosciences, and we're putting together a survey to potentially go look for the Florida Rainbow Snake, which is a snake that's only been seen like two or three times, lives like under the mud, under the water, so really hard to find, right?

And I don't think one's been seen confirmed since the seventies and South Florida rainbow snake. Yeah. So I think it's, I definitely think it still exists. I think it's still around. It's just a really elusive creature. That's so cool. All right. We're going to take a break in the interview to let you guys know that part of my take is brought to you by catalyst try the only FDA cleared at home EMS suit backed by 60 years of science and used by pro athletes, movie stars, and now stud podcasters and me. I have been using the Catalyst suit all summer. Been a lot of talk about the summer, Hank,

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species people. I've seen videos where guys are shooting them with shotguns and everyone's like, why would you kill these fish? Like, no, they actually killed them. Kill as many as you can. So explain how they got here, how it works and then will they ever be gone? For sure. Yeah. So, uh, in Peoria, Illinois, on the Illinois river, a couple of places, but pure is like the HQ of it. There are these invasive Asian flying carp. Okay. And what happens is these carp were introduced, I think for food, uh, some 50 or 60 years ago. And because they have no natural predators here, like they do where they're from from their population has Exploded to the point that they now make up something like 75% of the biomass in that river

So 75% of living organisms in that river are these carp and I could show you guys some videos But because their defense mechanism when their startle is to jump which is a very unique thing among fish You can drive a boat through these schools of fish. And all of a sudden, what looks like this beautiful placid piece of river erupts with 10,000 fish flying into, like 15 feet into the air. So we just started a YouTube channel about a year ago,

which is just a fun thing, like something we were gonna try out because I've been on TV a long time, but TV's kinda on its way out, like cable TV. So we're like, let's start a YouTube channel. And we decided to go to Peoria to look at the invasive flying carp for our YouTube channel. And we're filming and we did some hilarious stuff.

I was getting towed around in an inner tube with 10,000 fish jumping at like 40 miles an hour. I'm covered in bruises. I don't even know if you could see them. Fish smacking into you. So hard, dude. I thought I was gonna get knocked out. I took one to the dick. It was terrible Like I couldn't breathe for like 20 minutes

It was like jackass level ridiculousness, but it was super fun And so yeah So we were there trying to promote that people should go out and harvest these things and try and bring their numbers down Yeah, so do will they ever be able to get these numbers down like I assume they shock the river every now and then they do They do yeah so they put out these big plates shock the river every now and then? They do, they do, yeah. So they put out these big plates, shock the river, zap these whole schools of fish, and there have been a government-level effort

at eradicating them for, I think, five or six years now. And according to our guy who was driving the boat, who was with us from this Peoria Carp Hunters, he said it's gone down substantially. It used to be the whole river was exploding. So it sounds like they're knocking it down. The problem is these things can spawn, an individual carp can spawn a million eggs

multiple times a year. So the likelihood of getting rid of them, I would say is zero. You'll never get rid of them. And how did they get there? They just, someone brought one over? Like how does that work? With a million eggs being spawned,

all you need is one pregnant one to get in the river and that's it, right? And it's an exponential growth. So it's like, okay, there's a million eggs Maybe only a hundred thousand survive or maybe ten thousand survive But then that ten thousand reproduces a million each another ten thousand each, you know what I mean? So it's exponential growth and they're still not at capacity Like if the commercial efforts to remove them stopped probably go from 75% of the biomass to 99% of the wow It's crazy.

Are they, can you at least eat them? You can. They're okay. I'll be honest. I wish they were tasty. That would solve the problem. If they were salmon, it'd be no issue. Are they fun to catch?

Oh, they're so much fun to catch. Okay, that should be good. Because you're shooting them out of the air with bows and you're on this inner tube with a net and this guy. Can you catch them with a rod? Like are they, do they, will they bite like a feeder? No. Oh, they won't. Because they're filter feeders. So they're actually eating plankton in the water.

They're going through and like slurping up everything kind of like a whale shark like yeah, gill rakers and stuff. I mean you could probably snag them with a hook or something, but they're not actually trying to eat. So you have to come up with these outrageous other methods to catch them and I'll tell you it is wild. Like it's really fun. What about just going on on like, I don don't know water skis with a baseball bat done No problem away as they jump in there can absolutely do that That would be a good fancy football punishment actually just having somebody in an inner tube Just get dragged around the river for like three hours

Just walloped with if you set that up I will take your guy who loses at fantasy and get his butt kicked by car no problem Into his face. What about the Mexican grizzly bear? That's an interesting, because it's like a silver bear, right? It's not white, it's not brown, it's got like a silver.

Exactly right. Yeah, they called it, oh, I'm gonna butcher it, but it's like Oso Platyto, like platinum bear, and it meant the silver bear. And so grizzlies used to roam, now we think of grizzlies, we think of Alaska, whatever, right?

Way up north. They used to roam all through North America down into Mexico. And Mexico had its own subspecies, which was the Mexican grizzly, the silver grizzly bear. In the 70s, I want to say, there was one in a zoo somewhere and it died and it was like, oh, that's the end of the species. Then 14 years later, a Mexican hunter shot one and brought it into town. So the species hung on 14 years after we thought

it would have gone extinct. It was a big, beautiful silvery bear. And the region that it lives in is still a pretty remote, like mountainous region. And there are still farmers going, oh, something came down last night and took my livestock. It's definitely not a puma. So there's like a faint shred of hope that it's still out there.

And that's is that in like cartel country? Oh, yeah. So that makes it a little bit more dangerous to go hunting for them. It'd be tough to explain to to the Zetas like, no, I'm just looking for a bear. I think you could still do it. You know what I mean? Like, that's the thing. So I go down to Baja a lot and I run into cartel guys quite regularly. And they're the nicest guys.

I'm not saying they're nice outside of when you're having an interaction, but as long as you don't get in their way, you know what I mean? They're not getting in your way kind of thing. Don't cross any lines. Don't be an idiot. Just be polite and respectful. I think you could probably pull it off, but it is very deep in the heart of where all the turmoil is.

Yeah. I love all these stories where all the turmoil is. Yeah. These, I mean, I love all these stories about all these different animals. What's what? Give me another one. That's a scary animal that you've been like close to the polar bears. I can't wait to hear how that goes. That'll be fun. Um, but what's another like, whether it be a gorilla snake. I mean, I were pussies. We're city guys. I talk a lot of shit on animals being like, I could take down a bear No, no never face one. I mean let's give ourselves some credit

There was there was an instance when we were out in Southern, California playing frisbee true And a coyote walked right past I was ready to take it and yeah, and we just yelled at the coyote We were like come back here get some bitch nice and the coyote stopped and looked at me And then I was like no you can keep walking and well you thought he looked at you like I'm not messing with them. He looked at you like and just kept going You think I could take a coyote? I do think you could take a pretty scrawny. Yeah, you're a big guy Yeah, I think I fucked coyote. Yeah, the best is it walks away from us and then we're like, yeah walk away bitch I like making us feel like we scared it up. Yeah, you we had a pug with us So we didn't have the pug to get attacked. He would have eaten the pug you got for sure

Another scary critter right? That's your animal that you've you've gone you got really close to or Seen that's like majestic one of the hardest things we've ever done Which to me is still one of my greatest accomplishments is two or three years ago We performed the largest largest elephant translocation in history. So we put together, it's a crazy story, I like sold this whole TV show and I took all the resources from the show and put it into this one conservation thing so then the rest of the season was kind of fucked. But it was awesome because it was so worth it because I got a call from a buddy of mine from Zimbabwe from when my childhood, he goes

Forest it's so tragic. There's this herd of 24 elephants that they're gonna shoot right outside the city of Maputo because they're running through villages and they're killing people and they're squashing crops and everybody's angry with them. There's nothing we can do. And I was like, what do we need to do? He's like, we need like a big chunk of money

and we can catch them and move them to this national park that's 300 miles away. I was like, give me a week. And I like called in every favor, every resource, got all this money, went there, flew into Mozambique. And I like called in every favor, every resources, got all this money, went there, flew into Mozambique. And I won't bore you with all the specifics, but literally like three helicopters, four semi trucks, two crane trucks, a crew of 60 people, like this huge operation and successfully tranquilized, captured, loaded onto flatbeds, loaded into containment

trucks and transported 24 elephants without losing a single one. Wow. Yeah, and there was some crazy stuff there, because you're in a helicopter, you're darting an elephant, then you have three minutes from when you hit it till the tranquilizer takes effect and it falls to the ground. So you have to get three minutes,

you have to try and hurt it with your helicopter, then the second it hits the ground, you jump out, you run over, elephants suffocate if they don't breathe through their trunks, so if they land on their trunk, they're dying. So you have three minutes to rip its trunk out from it, to let it breathe, to keep it stable. Then you cut a road in, like literally hand cut a road in,

in comes a semi truck with a crane that lifts it up, puts it on a flatbed, then moves it into a conveyor belt truck that moves it into a transport truck. Holy shit. It was insane, man. And we're like, there's a clip of me in one of these shows where we hit one of the babies, but the dart doesn't go in all the way.

And it's trying to stay around its mom. So it's like freaking out and I have to run over and like tackle this thing to the ground to try and like put it down and then give it more tranquilizer and there's elephants all around, there's helicopters overhead. It was insane. But at the end of the day,

the part of it that was so magical to me was, it was all like this blur of adrenaline and craziness and like one cameraman nearly died when an elephant kicked over a door and nearly crushed him, like it was insane. But then we got there, like 40 hour drive and we get there and we open the doors and out go these elephants in this protected national park.

And literally the last one like runs out, looks back and trumpets like a thank you. And then runs off into the bush and we're like they're gonna live like they're safe It was just such a rewarding thing to do. That's so cool. Great feeling. Yeah, it really was Yeah, how long do you think you could make it just doing a nine-to-five job? Like if you were an accountant you like woke up tomorrow and you're like, okay, you got to commute 45 minutes each way You're gonna work in this cube and go home. Maybe three days. Yeah. Yeah I think I'd be on really good behavior for the first day, like pretty cranky the second

day and undeniably get fired on the third day. Did you ever think about like when you graduate from college, I don't know how your career went right after graduation, but for a lot of people, there's like a little in between time where you don't know if your desired career, the one that you really want to do is going to work out. And you're like, Oh, maybe I'll just take a job because I need money. I got to have a place to live. I work out. And you're like, oh, maybe I'll just take a job because I need money. I gotta have a place to live. I gotta have food.

Like, was there a moment where you thought like, okay, maybe I will just try to do something corporate for a little bit. For sure, yeah. I got out of college and I was working as a biology field tech making like 12 bucks an hour. And I like moved up the ladder in that because I was good at it.

Like I'd go out way harder, way longer than everybody else because I loved being outside. But what's so shitty about the sciences in that field, the better you get, the less time you spend in the field. Now it's like, oh man, you're really good at this. Move into the office, start writing grant proposals, manage a team. And so I started moving up.

And I literally, I remember the day I walked into my boss Morgan's office and I was like, I want to go back to being a tech. He's like, you'll make half your salary. I was like, I don't care. to being a tech. He's like, that's, you'll make half your salary. I was like, I don't care. I'd just rather be outside doing stuff than doing this. And he's like, okay, I guess. Like it's terrible for everybody, but if you want.

And he like, didn't understand it. I'm like, I don't want to be sitting in an office writing grant proposals. Like I want to be out in the field. So yeah, I mean, I was on that ladder, you know? And then the TV thing happened and it was a full pivot Yeah, it's like the farther up you get the more disconnected you get from the actual work Which shouldn't isn't that fucked up?

Yeah, cuz that's the opposite of how it should be if you're an expert in adventure or wildlife or sciences or whatever You should have to be working with the thing all the time to say that you're an expert on it And what's crazy is especially in the sciences in the bio the biological sciences, the further up the chain you get, the less time you get to actually interact and be observational with the creature. Yeah, I mean, it happens in sports all the time with coaches where it's like, oh, this guy's a great defensive line coach and he's so good, he's now a defensive court, now he's head coach. He can't coach this position the way he used to. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm a big rugby guy. Like Razier Asmus, the head coach of the Spring Box, he sits in a box watching them all coach and that's like mandated by World Rugby. And it's like, he's the best coach that's ever existed. He should be on the pitch. Yeah, exactly. What Big Cat described is why we don't have Jim Tomsula's anymore. Yeah. Just got elevated to the point of incompetence. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

And now hands tied. And now it's looked down on. Yeah. Messed up, man. It doesn't make any sense. How long, I know you did the Naked and Afraid, but how long could you survive if we just dropped you know, is it forever? I mean, no, no, I survival for me is like It's a means to an end, you know And what I mean by that is I'm by no means the greatest survivalist or anything like that That's ever done it probably 99% of the people that have done shows like Naked and Afraid Survivor are better at it than I am.

I just have a different mentality. I like it, I think it's fun. I'm not the guy that breaks down and cries about how hungry he is. I'm like, I don't know, I'll just go find some food. So like I have a different mentality, but I don't have the technical skills that most of these survivalists have.

Like I can rub sticks together and make a fire because I've done it a handful of times out of necessity. I don't, I'm not a weekend warrior spends every Saturday training and prepping and you know, figuring out little fish hooks and stuff like that. Like I, I'm more focused on the wildlife sciences. Yeah. So with the, uh, the polar bear thing, what, what's your goal for the polar bear expedition? What are you trying to do? Yeah. So we're filming it for the YouTube that I mentioned. And the goal is to show people that they aren't mindless killing machines, you know, like they are really cool animals. So we're filming it for the YouTube that I mentioned and the goal is to show people that they aren't mindless killing machines You know like they are really cool animals, so we're doing it on foot like as a walking Safari

Walking up on polar bears, and you know I don't I don't want to say anything before it's happened But the goal is to be not interactive because we don't want to disturb them But close enough in proximity to show like look at us these giant white bears. They know we're here They're choosing not to kill us or eat us and we're just sitting here observing them. So that's the goal. But wait, is there a chance you could be wrong? Well, yeah. There's always a chance. What if you just walk by and they just, all of them charge you?

That would not be good. Yeah. That would not be good. I, you know, I'm working with the, so we're doing this in Manitoba, Canada. I'm working with their travel board. I have a feeling there'll be a guy there with bear spray and a rifle and you rifle and all that kind of stuff. But they've done it before to be clear, the Manitoba Travel. We are gonna test the boundaries of distance

and everything else. So there'll be a little give and take. Yeah, I mean that's kinda scary to be like, if you think you're not killing machines and they're like, no we are. Oh wait a minute, well I'll tell you this. If I said that about crocodiles and I'll get some hate from some of my close friends, alligators, American crocodiles, sure. But if you say they're not no we are oh wait a minute well I'll tell you this if I said that about crocodiles, and I'll get some hate from some of my close friends

Alligators American crocodiles sure, but if you say they're not mindless killing machines about crocodiles like Nile crocs or saltwater crocs They absolutely they're mindful killing machines like they're intentionally trying to figure out how to kill you yeah You did didn't you like swim? Did you do something where you put like crocodile you wore basically crocodile armor? Yeah? Yeah, can you explain that? Yeah, sure thing. So we went down to this place in Central America with American crocodiles, crystal clear water. And I designed the suit that had electroreceptive

blocking technology, it's called a hex suit. It's kind of like what's in the door of your microwave. You know, you could stare a microwave without frying your brain. And so it had that technology in it. But then to go one step further, we made it all Crocodile print and theme and colors and stuff with the idea of it being like bio

mimicry like look like a croc act like a croc and maybe the Crocs won't eat you and then we hopped in the water and Dove with these crocodiles and it was it worked like we didn't they didn't bother you. So look, I'll be honest I don't think you see this in the little film We made but I had a broomstick with me for the first day and a half, and every time they'd get too close, I'd put the broomstick between me and the crocs and be like, look, you just kind of approach me. And then after doing that

and conditioning them a little bit, they were like, okay, this thing that I think I'm gonna go investigate is a wooden stick. I'm gonna leave it alone. So then I was able to leave the stick alone and actually swim and interact with them. That's crazy. So scary. You're also kind of insane.

No disrespect. I don't think kind of. I think it's very. But to like put on a crocodile suit, maybe they'll think I'm a crocodile and then just swim around freely. Maybe, I don't know, like Big Cat said, we're kind of pussies. But when you're talking about animals that like might get a bad rap, like bad PR, you're thinking maybe polar bears have been branded a little bit unfairly as mindless killing machines.

I mean, they do kill and they have killed, but they don't kill for fun, they don't go for sport maybe. What are some other animals out there that you think have a bad PR team? I think none go more so than sharks. Like sharks have the worst PR, especially like Florida. It's like another shark attack. Like don't come to the beaches, right?

The news loves it. The news loves it. The news loves it. And I know because I speak on the news about this pretty often, I'm always trying to say the same thing, which is like sharks just being a shark. Anytime you enter into the ocean, you are signing a mental waiver of like,

hey, I'm going into something else's domain. Yeah. It's the only time, especially in like North America, where we're not at the top of the food chain. If you're swimming in the ocean off the coast of North America, you are no at the top of the food chain. If you're swimming in the ocean off the coast of North America you are no longer the apex right. There are things above you in the food chain that can that can eat you and you just have to be OK with that and sharks aren't trying to eat you. Most of the time they're coming around doing

what's called an investigatory bite where they're just going is this food bite because that's how they taste something. You know I yuck I don't like human it's gross you? And that's it. But that bite is enough to kill people. So that's the problem. Is there a thing, because it does feel like we'll just hear about, oh yeah, this is a bad summer for sharks. Right. Is that real or is it just? When's the last summer there wasn't a bad summer for sharks? True. It's always the summer of the shark. There was that one, I actually went on vacation right by, I think it was on the Panhandle in Florida. There was that little- Like Vero beach.

Yeah, Rosemary beach and all that stuff. There was that stretch where it was like a two week stretch where three or four people were bitten and it was like, what's going on down there? So there's an interesting thing happening that most people probably don't realize. One is, you might've heard about this this year, like the water in Florida was like 91 degrees in like May.

Right. The water was like too hot. So when that happens, it speeds up the shark's metabolism. So when they get warmer, they need to eat more. Now, at the same time, when the sea gets too warm, all the bait fish disappear, they go really deep. So now you've got a bunch of hungrier sharks because their metabolisms are sped up,

looking for food more than they regularly would, more hungry than they regularly are, in the dead of summer when everybody's going to the beach. So it's just this confluence of situations where it's like, I'm hungry, I'm looking for food. And then you have guys splashing in the water playing football, or a chick with some jewelry on or something, shiny things. And the sharks are just like, oh, that could be bait, boom, and they go and bite it. And that's the problem.

It's like this. So they're not attacking, they're literally just thinking that it's food. They're just hoping. They're like, oh, is this food? Oh no, it's not, gross, you know? But a shark can't like pick it up and touch it and go, oh no, this isn't good.

Like their way of figuring that out is a nip. They nip you and they're like, my bad. Yeah, straight up. And then you're bleeding to death, yeah. So people who are getting shark bit, or bit by sharks, are not even being like fully bit by sharks? No, they're being tasted. Yeah., my bad. Yeah. And then bleeding to death. So people who are getting shark bit, bit by sharks are not even being like fully bit by sharks? No, they're being tasted. Yeah.

Oh my God. Yeah. It's an appetizer. What about the inverse of that? Is there any animal that has a great PR team that is secretly kind of an asshole and dangerous? Pandas. Oh!

Really? Dude, pandas. No way! They're dumb as shit. They will hand you, you could Google this. If you go to a panda in captivity and it has a baby and it's nurturing its cute little baby

and you put out an apple, it will hand you its baby and take the apple. Swear to God, nobody talks about this. They're dumb as shit, they're mean, they're terrible parents, they're bad moms. Yeah, and we're like, oh, the panda, it's like the symbol for WWF, I love it. It's because they have videos where they're rolling around

and looking dumb. Because they're dumb, that's it. They got the easy street of PR, man, I love it. It's because they have videos where they're rolling around and looking dumb. Because they're dumb, that's it. They got the easy street of PR, man, it's crazy. That's awesome. They are cuddly though. Oh, they're adorable, yeah. So I had one last question, this has been awesome. It's great to have you stop by.

The road back question, rhoback.com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roadback.com promo code take. So what animal do we need even more people, we have a colleague who's very funny, his name's Nick, and he has a theory that more kids should have octopus as their favorite animal, that they just have a really bad, they're just not in children's books,

but an octopus is like the coolest animal. They're so smart. They're so smart. One of the guys on my podcast is convinced that they're aliens. He believes it full heartedly, this guy Peter on the wild times. But you never see it in there, never in, but you know, you got foxes. Nothing. You got pandas, you got raccoons. You know, sharks.

You know, all of them. They got the tentacles and it's like, there's always the scary music playing. Right. Straight up, straight up. No, I love it. I think it's a great call. I think octopus are insanely intelligent. They can change the color of the skin,

the texture of their skin. They can hide in anything. They can make a clamshell their home. They're epic predators. Like, they can go out and catch something without a shot. I saw a video of one of them catching a shark the other day. It's insane, right? They just reach out and grab it and pull it in.

Yeah, they're awesome. I think more kids, I agree with Nick, I think more kids should have an octopus as their favorite animal. Okay. Straight up. That documentary, the octopus teacher, blew my mind. Crazy, right? I made friends with an octopus.

Straight up, yeah. They were just buddies and they'd hang out every day. Yeah, just pals. It shows you that level of like cognitive intelligence where the octopus was like, oh yeah, this is like an actual friend to me and it's benefiting me to have this relationship. Yeah, they're the best Yeah, I love octopi. What about um, what about orca? Where do they stand? Do they have a good PR team or bad PR team? I think generally pretty bad because especially recently, right? They're knocking over boats and stuff. Yeah until that orcas have never actually Hurt or killed anyone in the wild all those orca deaths have been in captivity It's that we know of that know of, that we know of.

Maybe they're actually just the best at covering it up. Like the Zodiac, yeah. True. Yeah, true. The Zodiac orca. Yeah. It's a good movie. But yeah, I think that, you know, people are really scared of orcas, and rightfully so. Like I've dove in with orcas, and it's the only animal,

and I might have a different answer to this after the polar bears, it's the only animal I've ever been around where I feel completely useless. Like if that orca wants to eat me, if it wants to this after the polar bears, it's the only animal I've ever been around where I feel completely useless. Like if that orca wants to eat me, if it wants to smack me with its tail, wants to do anything, there's nothing I can do. You're in the water with a big shark, you swim at it, you like show aggressive body language, the shark's like, whoa, you know.

You're in the water with an orca, it's like you're a rag doll. Like whatever they want to do, they're going to do. So I think that they probably get like a pretty bad rap overall, but for the most part they until until recently I guess they don't have anything to do with us. Yeah speaking of orcas. There was a situation last summer I don't know if you're familiar with it, but there was an orca that was in Florida that was like kind of on her last leg She wasn't doing well in captivity The owner of the Colts Jim mercer was gonna pay like three million dollars to fly it across the country and then put it in

I forget which body of water. Let her go though, right? Yeah, let her go. Basically let her go until like a very large but contained area. Yeah. It was like a natural area. I remember that.

How would you transport an orca? How can you fly an orca? So they're like a lot of marine mammals, as long as they stay hydrated and wet because they're air breathing, they're actually okay. So this is a bad analogy, but you know how you can see a turtle crossing the road and you're like,

oh, there's a turtle, right? Like it should be in water. It's fine as long as it's wet and you know, it stays like that. So same thing with an orca, you can transport them. They don't have to be in a tank of water. They just have to be wet and hydrated. And so I imagine with that instance,

you'd probably have in some kind of a containment, but you'd pick up that container, fly it and land it. And it's not like it'd be a giant fish tank. It would just need to be wet. So you just put a big whale onto a giant plane and essentially have a bunch of hoses that spray the oil. Hoses, wet blankets kind of thing, you know, towels, just keeping it really hydrated and wet water in its mouth and then move it.

Wow. Because our producer, Hank, said that it couldn't be done. He said, you can't move a whale. He's wrong. He knows nothing. Well, Forrest, thank you so much for stopping by. It was awesome to have you back on the show. Again, also awesome because people are going to hear this for the first time. And everyone go check out his YouTube channel. And I'm excited to see the polar bears.

Thanks, buddy. Be safe. I will. I promise. We'll talk about it next time. Yes. I hope so. Okay. When is it coming out? Probably like three or four weeks. Okay. Yeah. We might have to see. Can you text me when you get home safely? Yes. I will. Okay. All right. Boys, are your parents ever concerned or they're like, what's for? I don't tell. I don't tell them anymore. Yeah.

Yeah. It's kind of like us. We don't tell our parents no no our podcast. We're all black sheep. Yeah. All right. Thanks so much for us. Thanks boys. Appreciate it. For us. Galant was brought to you by our great friends over at Verizon. I've got Verizon. Verizon is the best and they've got a great great deal for you guys. It's the best time of year. It's football season. Verizon can help you win Sunday and be fully prepared for football watching with NFL Sunday ticket, meaning that you can get your favorite teams out of market games every Sunday afternoon. After the move to Chicago, I used NFL Sunday ticket. I watch every Sunday commander's game on my own terms so I can keep up with my team from afar. I can watch the commander's games if I'm at home, if I'm on the go. Sneaky may be the best part. I'm at the office.'m on the go sneaky may be the best part I'm at the office we're in the gambling cave maybe

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PFT won on the votes, and then we found out there was maybe some graphic things that happened. I actually, for people who are saying Hank's a sore loser, I do not think, he was ready to take the loss. It was PFT's decision to re-duel. It's my choice. So I do not think Hank was in the wrong whatsoever. There also, when you look back, there were some max asked specifically

what should be on the graphic and that did change. So I think we're fair for a redo. They're irregularities. Yeah. And I accept that. I'm happy. I am happy to abide by the outcome of this redo. So for the redo, let's we will max will say what do you want on the graphic and that will there will be no changes. Is that fair? It's fair not a single change from the words you want on the graphic Hank. Yep. That's okay. All right, so it's gonna be a one Mount Rushmore Redual before we do it. We have the hat with the punishments

Oh, so you guys can pick and this is actually fun because whoever ends up winning this will not have to do the punishment they picked, which is going to be a great cancellation. There's four punishments in here. There is LeBron's points. There's winning a natty in NCAA 25. There is running a marathon and there is a nine darter. Doing a marathon. Doing a marathon. You're right. Doing a marathon. Completing a marathon leading a marathon completing 26.2 miles if I could one in one setting if I complete the marathon Can I not tell people about it? Well, you're gonna stream it so as long as I don't actually say that Yeah, alright, so and you both get a veto So if you if you get if you pick one that you do not want to do you can then just take it out

of the hat Okay Okay. Who picks first? If you use your veto you can't be like oh but actually I want to do that. That's fair. Yep. Who would like to go first? I'll go first. PFT is taken from the hat. PFT what is your pick? My pick is LeBron's scoring record. I would veto that F.R.U. How long do you think that's going to take? I think it will take you like four days. How many points could that guy have scored? Alright, quick math.

How many threes did we say he hit? Well, he scored zero points in college. How many threes has LeBron James hit? How many threes do you think he could hit in a minute, PFT? Two. Two in a minute. So, just the threes. So that would be, okay, so just the threes would take you...

2.5. We're gonna go with two and we'll just see. Just the threes would take you 20 hours. And that's nonstop. Two a minute. And that's nonstop. You could hit more than two in a minute though I'm I'm all right. Let's say let's say you could hit five in a minute. Okay five in a minute Would be an hour's this fish. So we just put a impossible thing on one of the punishments

Because no one was ever doing this if that's what you're saying Well, no, you could shoot you could shoot threes that's what you're saying well no you could shoot you could shoot three so that would take you eight hours if you hit five a minute I mean Hank you could probably hit ten threes a minute so that would take you four hours like I think you could do it Hank I don't know is it and that's total but that's just as three justice threes okay yeah there's just layups yeah that it's just layups and free throws. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to repick. Okay. What pick do you have there? I got Marathon. Oh, okay. So PFT will be completing a marathon

if he loses. Give me back. Wait, when is said Marathon? Whenever I'd say, I'd say it has to be within the next three months. Is that fair? It's not a Chicago marathon. Well, we were saying we could do it, but I don't know if you can enter at this point. I would almost rather more hoops to go through. I would rather do the marathon. That's like two weeks from now, three weeks from now than to have to wait three months and have that over my eyes. So you want to say within a month, I'll try to do the Chicago Marathon if I lose. OK. Yeah, so let's say buy the Chicago Marathon,

whether it be doing it on your own or doing the actual Chicago Marathon. Yeah, because I don't want to have to spend like three months actually training for Marathon. Correct. The worst part is that's perfect. Yeah. Chicago Marathon is Sunday, October 13.

OK. So you have to have completed a marathon by the end of Sunday, October 13th and you could do it you could do it we could do a stream or you could actually run it we would have to find someone who would run in front of you with the backpack okay Hank one Henry has picked nine daughter. Oh, I would veto that if I were you. Well, it's so we're not going to do regulation length. We've we've established that it'd be a fair length, but I'm going to I'm going to do it. Wow. Oh, now I want Hank. I didn't want to do, like a marathon would kill me. So what exactly is a nine darter again?

It's 180 points in nine throws. So you have to make nine darts as triple 20s? No. No, you can do it in any order, right? Is there multiple ways to get a nine darter? So yeah. Oh, okay. I thought it was nine triple 20s.

Oh no, wait. No, no, no, no, no. It's, oh my God. I thought it was nine triple 20. Oh, no wait. No no no no no it's it's oh my god It's even worse. It's 501 points in nine darts. Oh My god, there's a there's a bunch of different combinations, but you have to get exactly 500 one yeah, whoo Yeah, three. Yeah, there's there's There's a bunch of combinations you get 320s 319s and a double 12 320s 315s and a double 12. Three 20s, three 15s and a double 18. Three 17s, three 18s and a double 18. Those seem like they

might be doable. And then there's also three 20s, three 19s and a bullseye. Because what were the it was marathon. Wait is it is it is three triple 20s. Yeah, it's not just three 20s. So we would we would come up with a fair distance. It would not be the regulation distance. We've established that it would be a distance that is fair to having it be a possibility. So you're going to keep it?

Because what's the third one besides all college football? Yeah, that you could do glitch plays, but I don't want to. I don't want to risk it. I don't want to risk. Yeah, I don't want to risk getting marathon or LeBron. I mean, the nine daughter would be electric. Yeah, like you getting a nine daughter would be an absolute and I think the physical toll on my body. Yeah, you might actually end up just getting really good at darts yeah which that's a bonus okay and then should we just say for for fairness that you have to do the nine darter before October 13th as well that's fine all right okay okay and if I don't get if I lose and I don't get into the Chicago Marathon for whatever reason you'll just run it I will run an alternate marathon yeah I know I think it'll be and then I'm gonna bike around the entire island of Manhattan I will as well. Yes, and then we're gonna eat shit if Florida State loses their next game. Yeah that fucking coward It's crazy. What a coward that I eat shit for the Capitals and it wasn't even it was after a win. Yeah

This also just reminds me that when I pick my pinky team this year I mean every year it's in the back of my head, but Just the act is shit fucking Cut off to my pinky. Okay. Are we ready to go boys? We got it also Odds are evens on the lottery ball decide who goes first Hank Roger Evans Evens, please Hank has selected evens pick a number to hang I'm

gonna take eight forty and if you get it right then you automatic win yeah means three does not count Memes 3 does not count. Oh 43. That would have been all time. So PFT would you like to go first? I would like to go first big cat. Okay, so get the timer up. We're doing a minute and a half Hank.

You guys can take two minutes. Okay, here we go We haven't started I haven't said the topic in minutes two minutes, okay We're gonna do Because this Mount Rushmore season has been very fun and we're thinking about all the moments and what was the moment that stuck out the most How did you say it on the graphic? and we were thinking about all the moments and what was the moment that stuck out the most how did you say it on the graphic

what color arguing about the color of cheese what color is cheese yeah what color is cheese so um we're going to do a color we're going to do the mount rushmore of green the boys are writing Mount Rushmore of green. I what? I'm just trying to think of who I who I want to do their punishment. I think both the both are great. I'm excited about both. I actually would have dreaded if one of them had landed on LeBron. I would have been like this is actually not going to be possible. My daughter could be could be electric. But the nine darter could be just as good. The nine darter would be electric.

But the nine darter I like because it could be so long or it could be- Yeah, he could just be incredible. He could just be a beast. The fact that there's multiple ways to get it too. Yeah. But it's not like you can mess up. No, you have to be perfect.

But think about the stream and having the strip like once he gets like the first five in a row, right? It would be so good. I want the nine daughter. The marathon would be funny. But the nine daughter could be like the nine daughters great just because it's you get the moment you get the moment and you also get like he'll have moments where he'll get seven in a row and then he's fucked up. There'll be so many moments for them. Yeah. I want the best man to win. Yeah. The nine daughter. I want to watch the nine daughter show. Either way we've we figured out. So next year we were talking about it. We'll do Mount Rushmore season kind of like rivalry week will have dual week

Well, we're all dual each other. So like like Monday like I'll dual Hank max will do a PFT Tuesday out or Wednesday. I'll do a hang or max PFT and Hank So we'll do do a week that will it's like the in season tournament dual week will be electric I'm addicted to the door. I just went to sleep in like Woke up in nine seconds. I love I was like a little brawn meme. I can't believe this is my life. We're redoing Do you guys need more time? Do you need time is up? I'm good. Okay Do you need time is up? I'm good. Okay

Okay, and obviously I don't have to say this but I'll say it just because we've had controversies We're taping this, you know at 1145 the polls not going up till 2 Please no funny business on Twitter with a tipping picks or anything. I'm not going to tweet anything just to be safe. Yes. Hank, you agree. No funny business. And then we will not, we will all not look at our phones from two o'clock to three o'clock. Yep. And then we will find out live who has won the Mount Rushmore. Okay, PFT, you have first pick.

What is your first selection for Mount Rushmore of green? My first pick is going to be... Weed. Whoa. Taking weed right off the bat. That wasn't my 1-1. Marijuana. Wow.

Green leaf. Reefer. Wow. Jazz cigarettes. Wacky Tabaki. Hey. Just weed on the graphic weed It's good for you on my graphic. I would just like the word cash

Love that that was my one one cash is good. Cash is good. Not money some would say this cash We got to have this clear. Some would say cash is king. Cash money. Cash money. Cash money. Okay. That's smart.

That was smart. All right, so you have just weed, not marijuana. Two, I would like it on top of each other. You want it marijuana or weed? Now I feel like I'm being coached into saying marijuana. No, I'm just asking. I'm going to stick with weed. Okay, weed.

All right, great. That's a good one. I like it. I like it. I just want want to we're just making sure there's no issues when we get to the graphic Whatever is said in these white lines is going to be put on the graphic. That's no changes. That's fair. Okay my second pick will be Football field mmm good one. I thought about doing sports fields no football field football feel better good yeah it's good pick that moment we talk about it where you're you're walking through the concourse and you see the green the the cement it's good pick this is a strong start to the start

both boys have been making yeah right the right moves I gotta say I'm I'm deep in my own head though cuz I I didn't even have cash on my list That was my one one. Yeah, I mean I actually we had the discussion two minutes. Yeah beforehand We were like we didn't want to pick a Mount Rushmore that had like a boobs or something And we were we had the discussion is money too much of a one one, but listen We was a great pick Hank Your second pick. Oh

No, the lights are kind of going out over here. The lights are kind of going out. There's another strong one out there. I don't I don't have a lot. Kelly green jerseys mmm okay okay I'm gonna I'm in a bad spot okay okay we were making the right picks until then but yeah I mean it's tough I got I really don't have I'm screwed Hank I did have Kelly jerseys on my list but it was way down there yeah no I don't I my list is is fucked all right PFT I'm screwed Hank. I did have Kelly jerseys on my list, but it was way down there. Yeah. No, I don't I my list is is fucked All right PFT. I'm gonna go with

Ireland mmm Mmm Okay What does that mean? Ireland's green the Emerald Isle. That's what they call it. What would you like on the graphic Ireland? Okay How is Ireland I think we went we went we went we went off We went off the board here. No, I was a good pick. You're wrong about how is it green? There's my explanation is known as being a green island. Yeah, it's green They call it the emerald I can't I can't speak because I don't want to I don't want to have anything be changed or any any

Anyone think of things Well to will discuss after Henry your third pick Are you out of picks? I just don't have any good ones There's one that I thought Hank would have for sure Wow this is tense. This is tense. This is tense. The boys are stuck. Boys are stuck. Something happened.

He had it. He had it. Latch back onto that, Hank. Whatever that thought was. Chase that. Chase that thought. I can just feel the nerves in chase the thought butterflies chase the thought Hank find it you have a good draft going right now with cash really don't cash money's a great pick for leaf clover okay okay that's not terrible that's a pretty good that's a

pretty good pick for you might be better than I thought you were gonna go disagree much worse All right, I think I think this is gonna wrap it up for me the green jacket That's good pick the green That's a really good pick. I didn't think of it and it's really really good Did not think that that was gonna last this long. That's a good pick. I can't believe you went Ireland over the green jacket I did not think that that was gonna last this long. That's a good pick. I can't believe you went Ireland over the green jacket.

Cause if I knew that Hank didn't have the green jacket, cause if he did, he would have said it earlier. Mm-hmm. That might have wrapped it up. Yeah, that wrapped it up. Congrats, PFT. I'll go with Nickelodeon slime.

Ooh. I don't hate it. Yeah, it's not a bad pick to just pull out of the air. Yeah. So the reason why I was pushing back on Ireland. So that's a final Nickelodeon slime. Okay. We were talking before I St. Patrick's Day, just picking St. Patrick's Day would have been a banger pick. Yeah, I feel like Ireland. I was waiting for that over Ireland. Ireland contained St. Patrick's Day, but it's much, much more than that. I'm shocked that- Graphics St. Patrick's Day would have been a huge hit.

I think Ireland, just as its own, is good. But Hank, I am shocked that you took Kelly jerseys over Celtics uniforms. Let's try not to tip. Yeah. Yeah. I also had- I figured you weren't gonna tip. I had JLo's dress. Remember that dress?

Oh yeah. That was good. That was a great green dress. Snakes. Snakes? Just snakes. Yeah. That's not a good pick. I'm just saying green things. Parrots. I'm just saying green things.

Parrots are good. Avocados. Yeah. Hank, what are you writing? I'm writing them out. You're doing a manual graphic? What else? What else? Memes, did you think I had a good pick? Memes thought about the Jets. Mr. Pear. Oh yeah. Mr. Pear. Mr. Pear would have been good crocodile dinosaur I Dinosaurs are big miss. Yeah dinosaur would have been good. I was I I didn't want to I I was gonna be hot sauce all over again

But I was thinking like like tropical tropical water tropical ocean water yeah, that would have not sure below yes blue but sometimes tropical ocean water. Yeah that would have not have been it. It's blue. Shrek. Shrek's a big mess too. Shrek's a great one. Damn. Shrek is a great one. I think the Kelly green jerseys and the green, I don't know, maybe think Philly will show out. Watermelons. I also think the thing that if, which I don't think it really played any factor like people voting for certain people but you having weed and me having kelly green jerseys might and you having green jacket might you know sway people to think it's me but I don't think that matters I don't think that mattered and

yeah yeah although except for the hang ninja turtles Fucking dynamite and the cow would yeah Yoshi That would have been I think I got a shot Cash money is a big one. It is that's a that's a good one What if I do early of clover is a good cow Ireland? Yeah, I would have taken it's well knowing what I know now I would have taken cash money one one over weed. Yeah, I would have taken it. Knowing what I know now, I would have taken cash money. One one over weed. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's gonna be tight. I don't, I'm not green jacket might be the one that if you had gotten one other solid one, if you've gotten like Ninja

turtles. Yeah. But football, Kelly, everyone loves the Kelly green Jersey. It's true. I had football stand up. Yeah. Okay boys. So we'll find out at the end in a minute while you're listening to this in a minute, but in a couple hours here in real time, who lost Mount Rushmore season. Good work. We feel good about the redo. I think it's fair. Same. Okay. And what were no graphic changes? No, can you read off the graphics officially now? We're gonna know I can't do that we the other one we were thinking about doing which I can just save for next Summer was one-time PMT guests. Oh, that would be good. Yeah, that'd be really good one. We'll save that for next I wanted to do cheese official graphic team one Official graphic team one weed football field Ireland the green jacket team to cash money

Kelly green jerseys for leaf clover Nickelodeon slime I it's I would like cash on top of money Yeah, I would like Kelly green on top of jerseys. Yep for leaf on top of clover Nickelodeon on top of slime. Oh, okay I like however, however memes and Shane format it is good for me. I'm not gonna be a pain in the butt and ask you guys to change things. Okay, okay. Alright. Good job boys. Okay, it's time boys. It is time. Oh, it is time. Before before we do it do we want to address recurring

guest one of our best friends oh yeah world Jerry O'Connell last time he was on the show I think we talked him well you know one of the things we appreciate about Jerry's he's he's our guy and he said that he had said no to all the podcast requests that he had in the past to talk about fantasy football and this morning he was on good Morning Football talking about fantasy football look squad now he was adamant that that doesn't count as cheating and I agree with him yeah he just did butt stuff I agree with him in the same way that like if his wife Rebecca came on our show without Jerry and talked to us for

a long time just you know shot, whatever, had a cool hang. That would be her cheating on Jerry. No. That would just be us becoming really good friends with Rebecca Romaine. I saw this. It hurt me, I'll be honest. It hurt me a little.

I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it because I love Jerry, and I know Jerry, it's more, I don't blame Jerry. It's, it's, it more, I don't blame Jerry. What if it keeps happening? Then we're going to have no, you know what? Jerry can do whatever he wants. I'm not going to put a restriction on Jerry. It's more that the good morning football just trying to rip us off. That's more what it is. But Jerry can be Jerry. I love Jerry. I'll never be mad at Jerry. I can never be mad at Jerry and I actually wouldn't even thought of it if he didn't you know, it was kind of It was kind of foreshadowing the fact that he was so proud of never of turning everyone down

We should have been like, huh, that's weird We didn't even we I didn't even think about it Like of course you can do whatever show you want your grown man But he like bragged about it and we were like, oh, this is great He loves us the most and then he went and did that if he never brought that up to us, then I wouldn't, I'd be like, yeah, Jerry. Yeah, of course. Fancy football all the time, whoever you want. He basically was like, I'll never cheat on you. Yeah. Now he's going to start suspecting us of cheating. That's what he's going to, he's going to go on there and be like, I went on good morning football and

had the best sex of my life. Yeah. Um, I'm fine with it for Jerry's sake because he is a star and I love him. I just wish that, you know, I wish whatever. We need to get, let's see, I don't know, River Phoenix, he's dead. Corey Feldman? I think we just get Rebecca. Is Corey Feldman still alive?

I think we get Rebecca on this show. I'll just say some other actor from Stand By Me and just have them be our fantasy expert. Key for Sutherland? Key for Sutherland. We expert. Key for Sutherland. Key for Sutherland. We can get Key for Sutherland. He's got a great voice.

Yeah. Is Corey Feldman still alive? I think so, yeah. The other Corey. He's in a band. The other Corey passed away, that's right. Yeah, Corey Feldman's in a band. They sound like Limp Bizkit.

Okay, so maybe Corey Feldman's going to be our new fantasy expert. Yeah, I have no problem though. Jerry can do whatever he wants. I love Jerry. Okay, it's time. Let's reveal. Good luck, Hank. So memes you're going to tell us the percentages and then you will tell us the teams and the stakes are if, if I lose, I have to run a marathon. If Hank loses, Hank has to get a nine daughter and this is it.

This is final. This is the Mount Rush final season. This is PFT. Bring it on. You think he did it. Yeah, you think you won. I think I think I did too Okay Are you ready? Yes. Yes. All right percentages the percentage 25% oh to 75% Congrats PFT Henry To 75% Congrats PFT Henry You are the loser

Yeah Hank he's taking off his headphones. I thought I was gonna be closer than that. I did too. Where do we think it went wrong? green jacket hurt Where do we think of one wrong? Green jacket hurt. Cash money was a great first round pick. Kelly Green, I just didn't have a lot of picks. I really had nothing. I was out Shrek. I'm like, I don't even know what else I had like really. Yeah. Ninja Turtles would have How, what's going through your head right now? 180. Listen, I'm going to, I'm going to be there at that stream. Not the whole time, but there will be times I'll be there and I'm going to be pumping you up and rooting for you.

The fun part is going to be, we can get some like dart players to come in and show Hank how to throw a dart. Yeah. What if we got Michael VanGerwin? What if we got someone on the show? That would be awesome. Oh, we should try and get, like we did, Pete, or we got Pete Weber. Yeah.

To do a celebrity, he gets a celebrity dart. Oh, if you can get one, yes, celebrity dart. Can't be the last dart. No. But you can get a celebrity dart, for sure. We did do that with Pete Weber. Yeah. You're going to do this.

I don't think it's going to take that long. I think you might do it right away. I didn't know there was so many different combinations. I don't think I've ever gotten to like triple twenties in one out of three. But you don't have to do that. But it's going to be closer. Yeah, you're going to be closer. And there's the other combinations you can go for.

Listen, I'm ready. I'm ready to face the challenge. Congrats, PFT. Thank you, man. Listen, I'm ready. I'm ready to face the challenge. Congrats, PFT. Thank you. Do you think it's a little bit just because you were the grumpiest for Mount Rushmore season? This is not me asking. This is the AWF. Yeah, I mean, I had a bad Mount Rushmore season. I think it would have been a miracle if I hadn't lost. So yeah, I was happy I made it to a duel. To a re-duel. Even getting to a re-duel is kind kind of a crazy run. Yeah. Yeah, we stayed alive

We fought we fought till the very very end you did Any flags you want to throw? No, I didn't even bitch. I don't understand. I Wanted to end it last night. I said pft. Just do it and pft refused and now I have to do a duel I wasn't like I would have been able to look myself in the mirror. Yeah, pft He had a guilty conscience. It was me. It was me. It was not Hank. Hank did not cry and ask for a redo. In fact, Hank was yelling at me because I was trying to offer the redo and he just wanted me to stop talking. Hank was willing to accept the results. People listen to that and still were like, yeah, yeah, but they're just jealous of the

summer of Hank, which is over and I'm taking the brunt of the blame. Yeah, that's fine. I, I also, I'm not going to say right off the, right off the bat, but we there, there might be a situation where Hank may need to earn some mulligans. What do you mean? And the nine daughter. Oh yeah. I would agree. But like, let's say that now. Like 10. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a good That's a good point. I think there should be like well, there should be hours. There should be some our benchmarks where you know Ten hours in he gets a mulligan. Yes Yeah, well ours and he gets two mulligans 14 hours in I agree with all this good because I I think at 24 hours should be The cap and we should just we should get you there there You'll be fun if I'm not trying to have you there

No, this is the thing this is where it's like you guys pick punishments. I'm gonna do it I don't want to get bailed out. I don't want to be like, oh like cuz I'm not asking you for this You're saying this and then you go. Oh, okay We're trying to think of you make for an entertaining stream Yeah And and maybe like Hank doing a dizzy doing a dizzy bat and then if he hits the board on his first throw Then he earns that mulligan after a couple hours. There was also mulligans in the free throw stream. That was a great stream Yeah, I think it's gonna be all concern Pat. Yeah, it makes it exciting

It does because it the free throw stream couldn't have ended Yeah Like we couldn't have ended the free throw stream. After 24 hours. We weren't going to just end that stream. Yeah, true. No, yeah. So the 24 hours thing I'm wrong about, but you should get some Mulligans baked in. That I think is, is there. Yeah. I see what you're saying. Like we're not going to do like a, he's saying there shouldn't be a cap on the hours because- Yeah, no. You're right. You're right right about that I agree with that yeah but Mulligan's

maybe yeah yeah well we'll figure it out okay if I got the number you switch Wow if you get the number I think it should be anyone gets the number they have to switch if you get the number Hank ah we'll switch and I'll do the nine daughter no I think it should be if anyone gets number they have to do it with Hank if I get the number I'm not gonna get it so man if I get it I'll also do my punishment okay if I get the number I'll do the nine darter with you all right yeah 56 8 3

18 20 What's pug gonna do? 20 No 40 40 40 40 fuck fuck Ohhhh Can't do that Henry 97 40 40 40 40 21 oh god no

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