Pardon My Take - NFL With Pete Prisco, UFC 229 With Jon Anik + Fastest 2 Minutes
Episode Date: October 8, 2018Fastest 2 minutes for Week 5 (2:27 - 7:19). The Texans and Cowboys played in a game of who can fire their bad coach first (7:19 - 8:56). The Browns won a game on a Sunday, Philly has a Super Bowl hang...over, the Falcons are done, the Bengals are good, and Mason Crosby lost his mind (8:56 - 18:20). Playoff Baseball and UFC 229 (18:20 - 29:31). Football Guy of the Week (29:21 - 35:02). Who's back of the week (35:02 - 43:58). CBS Sports Pete Prisco joins the show to talk NFL Week 5, why Bortles is fine everyone relax, how Defense will catch up to the narrative of an offensive explosion and more (43:58 - 70:35). Jon Anik joins the show after being on the Call for UFC 229, talking about what it was like to see Khabib go in the crowd, McGregor's future, and whether or not this is good for UFC (70:35 - 86:38). Segments include Take Quake for Peter Gammons, Embrace Debate is Darren Rovell an athlete? Whats the Beef? Kings stay Kings Ryan Lochte, and Whoa You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we recap a wild, wild weekend in sports, baseball playoffs,
college football, NFL Week 5, Habib vs. McGregor.
It was insane.
We have Pete Prisco talking about NFL.
We have John Annick, who is on the call for UFC 229, talking about what went down on
Saturday night, and because it's Monday, Football Guy of the Week in the fastest two minutes.
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is Monday, October 8th, week 5.
We start in Cleveland where Baker Mayfield of Dreams said if you bake it they will come.
That's CUM folks.
The Ravens defense held firm all afternoon led by Terrell.
I don't want no Suggs.
Suggs is a guy who can't stop the Browns QB and after 1029 days they're celebrating
on Sunday.
Sorry Coach Jackson.
These Browns are for real.
Never meant to make the Ravens cry.
I apologize a trillion times.
Browns 12.
Ravens 9.
Next stop Detroit Rock City where it hasn't been a beautiful day in Mr. Aaron Rogers'
neighborhood the past few weeks and it starts with Missing Crosby aka Crosby Stills Nash
and Dunn who had two cats in the yard making life for the Packers so hard.
The Packers tried to come back in the game using the energy boost of Marquez, one Valdez
scantling.
Putties only had a cup of coffee as a starter and they ultimately fell short.
To quote my personal friend Katy Perry, will Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers fight and break
up or kiss and make up?
Man 31 Packers 23.
Some spread.
In Pittsburgh where we go, James Connor McGregor said if you can't beat him join him and unveiled
a Russian attack of his own forcing the Falcons to tap in the fourth.
Muhammad's new kids on the block was hanging tough but the Falcons got nothing yet again
from Matt and Julio down by the no touchdown yard.
Mike Tomlin San Diego said where in the world is the Pittsburgh Steelers locker room and
it looks like he finally found it.
Good juju back in the yinzer capital of the world.
Steelers 41.
Falcons 17.
Tick tick tick tick tick tick.
In Philadelphia the Vikings looked for revenge for the 2018 NFC Championship and Adam Thiel
like Macon brotherly love had 116 yards on the score while the other side of the ball
Zach earth so good come on baby make it earth so good had 110 yards in a score of his own.
The story of the game though was Linville Joseph Stumblin and Linville Joseph Bumblin
and Linville Joseph Rumblin for a score and Linville Joseph Rogan needing oxygen for his
burnt out lungs.
Is Doug Fonnie Peterson on the hot seat?
People are asking this question now.
He could go all the way.
There's a cornerback controversy in New York as Odell Beckham ran the Philly special
to perfection and Sterling Shepard tried to attack Eli Manning on the sideline but in
the case of a mistaken identity took his frustrations out on the nearest trash can.
The Giants will have Graham Gano sleep till Brooklyn on their plane ride home after this
loss.
Where's Ben Macadoo do when you need them?
Panthers 33.
Giants 31.
The New York football Giants.
And Wester New York you're supposed to remember the Titans but Josh Allen gave them an afternoon
to forget torching the bills for 82 very tall spectacular yards.
Mike the Vrable guy expected his team to show up between the hours of 1 and 4 p.m. but Marcus
Mariotta Scrambles was less visibly appealing than when you tried to jerk off to the Spice
Channel as a 12 year old.
Hey Tate.
Yeah boom?
No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
Pulse 13.
Titans 12.
In Kansas City where the Red Hot Chiefs battled with the Saxonville Jaguars let's kick it
down to field level where the star of this early NFL season Patrick Mahomes joins our
program.
Patrick let me be the first to say you're good at football now please talk about the
game.
I just wanted to go out there and execute in the conscious presence of the great position
to win.
Just trying to get the playmakers and all of their lead credit to the Jaguars they
fought hard.
They were a good football team and they were just trying to go out there and execute and
get to bowl their playmakers early and fight hard.
Thank you Patrick.
You're welcome.
Big fan.
Chiefs 30.
Jaguar 16.
We wrap up in sunny California where the Chargers and Raiders faced off for a battle
of LA franchises past and present.
Melvin Gordon Lightfoot continued in the wreck of John Gooden's career as Jordy Half
Nelson played like he had an arm tied behind his back and Martavis Kobe Bryant didn't
flinch even though Derek Carr was unable to throw the ball directly at him.
Anthony Lindenby Johnson pulled his pants down and folks the rumors are true he has
a huge set of nuts.
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Bill O'Brien, I don't know what's worse, Bill O'Brien just not being able to score from the one yard line with Deshaun Watson, Jandre Hopkins, and essentially like he's supposed to be an offensive guy, J.J. Watt, good point Hank, or Jason Garrett punting the ball from the other side of the 50 in overtime, fourth and one, when you used a first round draft pick on a running back, you can't get one yard, you punt it away, and then they basically come down and score and win the game.
Yeah, I think with Bill O'Brien, he looked like he was trying to get Deshaun Watson injured, because he's used to having such shitty quarterbacks that it's actually an advantage to him if his starting quarterback goes out.
Well, I was gonna say, stay woke. Bill O'Brien is like, if we can get Deshaun Watson injured again, then I can just buy another year of, well, I didn't have Deshaun Watson.
Right, he'll bring Brock Osweiler back, or Brandon Heaton, or whoever the hell, is he? And Joe Webb.
That would have been amazing. It's essentially my favorite team.
Yeah, so, I mean, he doesn't know how to coach Deshaun Watson, that's pretty clear. He was like putting him in shotgun and running the ball in fourth and one on the goal.
I don't know what the hell he's doing. Jason Garrett, I don't have a problem with the fourth and one.
Oh, I have a shoot. You don't have a problem with punting a fourth and one?
Here's why. It would have been so out of character for Jason Garrett to do it.
Jason Garrett's MO is to just not get fired by Jerry Jones, and Jerry Jones doesn't like any of this like analytic stuff.
Jerry Jones likes conservative football, and he likes it when Jason Garrett just stands on the sideline and shuts up.
Matter of fact, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen Jason Garrett speak on the sidelines to anybody.
He just like holds up numbers. He claps a lot and then he points at people and tells them to run out there.
But I don't have a problem with it. It would have been, yeah, it was a chicken shit move, but that's kind of who Jason Garrett is.
But it's such a terrible, like, and I know we're going to get to it with Pete Prisco in a minute, like the advanced stats and when you should go for it and all that stuff.
This is just a gut thing. Like, you're handing the ball back to the other team in overtime when all you have to do is get one yard.
And if you draft a running back in the first round and you feature a running back as like the offense is going to be run first, even though that's so asinine in the NFL,
and then you say we're not going to be able to get one yard, that's insanity.
Yeah, it is nuts. Like, don't get me wrong, I would have called it differently, but that's what I want from my Jason Garrett.
I want the most boring vanilla ass football possible.
Well, you got it.
And we got it. We got it.
So, so the other story that we will whip around the league, but the big story obviously is the Cleveland Browns have won a game on a Sunday undefeated in their color rush uniforms this year in the neon browns.
And we also had Hugh Jackson putting up two fingers after the game, which it was confusing. There were two seconds left.
So we think that he didn't realize that once you kick a field goal in overtime after everyone's had a possession, the game is over.
Some people thought maybe he wanted to go for.
I thought, I thought he was like, let's go for two right now. We're up by three points.
So you don't want to be up by four. You'd rather be up by five.
Hugh Jackson stands out there. Yes, I cannot believe there actually are these people.
We're saying he was putting up two fingers to say we have two victories because what NFL coach doesn't put up how many victories they have after every game.
He's like a person on Twitter that changes their name, their display name after every game to update the record.
Don't, don't hate on those.
Don't hate on those people, don't hate on those people.
But it's like, I mean, once it's like Michael Jordan putting up six after, it's like, what are you doing?
Why would Hugh Jackson be like, we got two wins now?
Well, we got two wins guys.
Hugh doesn't know how to handle victories. That's pretty clear.
I have noticed that everybody that defends Hugh, because there are Hugh stands, they're mostly just players that have played for him that he didn't cut.
So they like him.
Yeah, he's really nice. He's a nice guy.
Yeah, he's a really nice guy.
Also, did you see the story that Baker Mayfield just basically alphad Todd Haley?
Yeah, he said, I'll coach.
I got this.
Yeah, I got this back off.
So maybe the Browns will have a good chance of doing something this year.
I think Todd saw that and he's like, Hey, you know, if you want to come over later, hang out with Mrs.
I like that can do attitude.
Yeah, like she likes the office.
We'll do a little Eiffel Tower situation.
We have a triangle.
We'll play drinking games.
We have a lot of Dunchain candidates this week.
We do a lot.
I'll start.
I'll just start saying names.
You can just stop me when you want.
Okay.
Yeah, let's toss the Dunchain out like it's Mardi Gras beads.
Falcons are definitely Dunchain put the Dunchain right around their neck.
Raiders.
Have we already Dunchain them?
I think we did last week.
Yeah.
They're done.
They are fully, fully done.
Let's see who else.
The Cowboys are a good candidate for Dunchain.
I was losing that.
I was thinking about that because we said it was a loser leave town game.
So the NFC East is kind of like someone could win the NFC East at eight.
Tell you what, if the R words beat the Saints tonight, then I'm going to put the Dunchain
retroactively on the Cowboys.
Got it.
Okay.
That's fair.
But I also think that Jason Garris, he has the alive chain.
He has the, um, the, what should it be?
Like the dunce cap of freedom for another year.
Yeah.
He's both those guys aren't going to get fired.
No, those guys are going to coach against each other in four years when the Texans
in the Cowboys play again.
Yep.
And I'm going to love every second of it.
Uh, let's see.
Who else did I have?
I mean, do you want to put?
No, we can't put Dunchain on the Packers, but Mason Crosby.
I can't, I can't put Mason Crosby.
You see a spin zone afterwards.
What do you say?
So he went, he went over five on kicks and he said, uh, those five misses,
were an anomaly in life.
I guess, I guess that could be like, here's a spin zone for Mason Crosby.
If you're going to miss three, you might as well miss five so that you can say
something like there was an, like something, the matrix had a hit, like
the CD skipped on the matrix.
Yep.
And Mason Crosby just forgot how to kick a field goal for a day.
It's like Chuck Knoblock throwing it a hundred feet into, you know, the first
base line.
Right.
He had the Yps today.
Right.
It was a Yps day.
And what I, you know, who had the Yps more than Mason Crosby was Skip Baylis
because Skip Baylis did not tweet anything out about Mason Crosby's magical,
mysterious makes that he had against the Cowboys two years ago in the playoffs
and this would have been the day to do it.
But we, first of all, like it's kind of sad because P.F.T.
and I, when we got into the office, we essentially finished each other's
sense for like, Skip Baylis hasn't tweeted about Mason Crosby.
Like, what the hell?
We've been looking for it.
I was checking his Twitter account.
I thought there was something wrong with my computer.
But credit to Skip.
This is why he's, he's on the top of the mountain.
He keeps you guessing, right?
When you think you got him in a corner, when you're like, oh, here comes Skip
with his Mason Crosby takes, he just pretends it never happened.
Right.
When you think you've got the man figured out, he's a mystery.
Skip only has one TV in his house.
I realized that today because he was only tweeting about like the Browns game.
I think he only has one TV.
Well, yeah, he has one TV in his gym and then he can like go on the treadmill
and then he can watch the TV on the treadmill.
But yeah, he dials in.
He's not a red zone guy.
No, red zone is way too confusing.
It's too much for Skip Bayless.
Yeah.
So the Eagles, another Dunshane candidate, although the Eagles,
if you have your like bingo card, who is going to have a penalty,
a bullshit penalty ruin a game?
The Eagles come on, come on down because that Michael Bennett sack of Kirk
cousins where he just kind of lightly tripped him up.
Yeah.
Was insane.
That was nuts.
Yeah.
I, and one other takeaway from that game is Doug Peterson got fat.
Well, I didn't realize he got so chunky.
I would too.
If I was simple, I like him chunky.
I think he's, I think he's a better looking coach with that.
Like he's got the thing where now his cheekbones just go down like straight
into his shoulders.
That's how wide his neck is.
There's a problem though.
If you get too fat and you wear a visor, then the visor is like when,
when the visor gets like skinnier on top and then your fat face is like
basically protruding outside the visor.
Yeah.
That's a bad luck.
Or it could kind of mushroom and it constricts like at the middle of the head.
And so he's got, he's got top, he's got top fat.
Yeah.
He's got top fat hanging over like it's a belt on the top and then it,
it widens out again.
Yes.
Yes.
Like toad.
Sure.
Should we, what else we got in the NFL that we want to hit?
I just, I made a note and I'm not sure where I was going with this,
but I just love Chris Collins worth the way that he says Al.
Yeah.
Al.
I like that too.
Al.
That's a good note.
Yeah.
Just, just a quick, you know, I wanted to touch on that.
I also feel like I haven't seen a Romo game this year, which is kind of weird.
Do you guys feel that way?
I feel like he's been on one o'clock every single, every single day.
I see him on the red zone.
I heard him, I heard him screaming about some.
Yeah.
He pops up on the red zone and like basically wakes you up from your nap.
Yeah.
But I don't know what's going on and they, the Bengals, a little shout to the Bengals,
the, my AFC North pick of the year.
They're, they're good.
They're good.
Their defense is pretty good.
Their defense is better than we thought they were.
They're good.
I thought that's, I thought that would be like they're undoing, but that defense,
I guess woke up, but they played the dolphins.
Yeah.
I don't know what to make of them.
But they came back from 17 down and Joe Nixon might be top three running back.
Yeah.
I might say that.
I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say it when he's healthy.
Yeah.
When he's healthy.
The reason we're not seeing Romo is cause he does CBS, but we, cause we're in New York,
we get stuck watching the shitty jets.
Oh, it's so bad.
Yeah.
It's so bad.
Oh, the giants, we need to talk about Odell Beckham.
Yeah.
Signing a monster contract and getting all the way to week five before he says,
I don't know about Eli.
Yeah.
And you know what?
I was not surprised that he was doing an interview with Lil Wayne for some reason.
The first, I saw that pop on my TV and I was like, Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
That's perfect.
Yeah.
Support the homies.
It's tough to, it's tough to drop the world when you only catch it with one hand.
You know, the hot takes that we always get, you know, the hot takes we always get when
Odell Beckham goes crazy on the sidelines like, Oh, he's got to be a leader and stuff.
Well, they kind of came, you know, to fruition when Sterling Shepard attacks a trash can
and a bench.
You're like, well, actually he just learned from Odell Beckham.
Yeah.
What to do when something bad happens.
I think they just need to remove all inanimate objects from the giant sideline, including
Eli Manning.
Yes.
It is dangerous.
And then, uh, I guess before we get into everything else, the bills, shout out to bills.
Yeah.
Shout out to Josh Allen.
Josh Allen putting the team on his back.
Listen, a win's a win.
You know what?
People are saying like he only had 82 yards passing, but guess what?
He had another one of those touchdowns where if his hands were even a little bit smaller,
he wouldn't have reached the goal line.
Yep.
And we'll get to the Blake Bortles talk with Pete Prisco.
Don't worry.
We listen.
They're fine.
We brought in an expert with Pete.
Jaguars are fine.
The Jaguars just win.
They just go back.
They, they win, then they lose and they win.
That's what they're going to do for the rest of the season.
They'll be good.
The chiefs are going to be really good.
They're fucking wagon.
Although the Sunday night football game coming up chiefs, Patriots, and then the chiefs are
going down to Mexico city against the ramp.
The chiefs have an awesome schedule, but the chiefs, if you're a chiefs fan, listen to this
right now, I'm sure you can quote it right off the top of your head.
But I like, I think they've gone.
I know they went what five in all last year.
They went eight, no, a couple of years ago.
I think they went another five in all the, and they've won zero playoff games from all
these hot stones.
That's, that's Andy Reed football.
That's Andy Reed, Andy Reed football.
All right.
We want to do baseball real quick.
Yeah.
So David Price, a total head case.
He, listen, David Price, best thing happened to David Price is Mason Crosby coming out
and missing five field ones because I guess they're, they're two P's in a pod because
I've never seen someone and it's fascinating to me, like genuinely fascinating to watch
a guy who is good, who has all the talent in the world, just not being able to show
up.
He can't handle the bright lights of the Boston media.
He sees Dan Shaughness.
He's curly little head walking by and he just starts shitting a brick.
He cannot do it.
And then the, um, the brewers advance, the braves have, have held on.
And then the Indians and the Astros in the infinite wisdom of major league baseball
to grow the game have maybe given them the worst schedule possible.
I said to you guys, like if the Indians and Astros have an entire playoff series before
four PM, does it even happen?
No, it doesn't because I don't even like, they had a game in the middle of the college
football slate.
They had a game in the middle of Friday afternoon and then they have a game on Monday at one
o'clock.
Yeah.
How did they decide that?
They're just like, nobody's going to, well, they just World Series champions in the team
that went to the World Series two years ago, but they just know that no one's going to
tune into it.
Like if, if they're going to have a prime time game, they want one of their big teams
playing it.
Yeah, I know, but there's not like a ton of big, I mean, it's basically the Yankees
and the Red Sox playing each other with the Dodgers, but like, that's, that's it.
You know, I mean, that's, it's not, baseball isn't exactly like have tons of huge markets
everywhere.
You guys know me on big seam head, right?
Watch a lot of baseball.
I'm in like seven fantasy leagues.
Raise, raise, seam head this year.
Raise, because remember the, the, the, they're up a little.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
The raised seam head.
Yes.
The absolute or I had somebody tweet at me earlier like maybe the laces are a little
bit higher.
That's where all the kickers keep missing field goals.
So they stay a little bit woke on the cables.
Okay.
Um, but I, watching the Yankees play, have they always been like that big?
Yes.
There's just like the girthiest, girthiest team.
Aaron Judge is, he's not a real human being.
He is what like, he is, he's, he's William Wallace when they're like, I thought William
Wallace was 10 feet tall and blew fireballs out of his ass.
That's what he does when he hits home run.
He's that guy that they created when Barry Bonds wouldn't sign off on the Major League
Baseball Players Agreement for, for a baseball game.
Like a video game.
What is that guy's name?
Somebody get on that.
Oh yeah.
And that's what Aaron Judge is.
Yeah.
He, it's, it's incredible.
And then John Carlos Stanton who he, that guy's, we want to talk about mental midgets.
I watched, I think I watched one at bat of the game on Friday night and it was him sitting
there taking three straight pitches in the bottom of the ninth or the top of the ninth.
That guy's got big time mental midgets.
Yeah.
They have L Gary, L Gary Sanchez and then the Luke Voight guy who's, they're just massive.
Yes.
They're all just big, big dudes.
Are you a little bit worried?
Yeah, I'm a little bit.
Yeah, you have to be.
You have to be.
How come Liam, how come the Red Sox don't have any big boys?
Bubba just gave a little sly, like not even worried.
Not even, not even a little bit.
I mean, can you carry over some of those 108 wins?
Nope.
Oh, so then probably should be a little worried there, Bubba.
And their bullpen's absolutely awful.
If they win, if they went tonight though, I'm, I'm back on the not worried.
Okay.
Uh, before we get to football guy the week, we should probably also mention we're going
to talk to John Anna, who is Joe Young, Joe Young.
Joe Young, Joe Young, Joe Young, Barry Bonds character.
Uh, we should talk about UFC 229 before Johnny Annick is going to be interviewed
in a minute here.
He was at the fight, but holy shit was that obscene.
Like it was, it was a total chaos and everything you want from a fight night.
I know people were, some people were disgusted.
I actually was a little disgusted that Khabib spit on Conor McGregor.
That was the only time I was like, that was too far.
How could you be disgusted tuning in to like, to a UFC fight night and then
being upset at another fight breaks out here's the thing is I made the point
and it's, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.
Fight promo is one thing.
And I feel like Khabib just like realized, he didn't realize the game.
No, he even said it after.
He's like, yeah, this is a game of, uh, fighting is, is a thing of honor.
No shit talking.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
That's like, this is fighting is, is meant for shit talking.
He's talking sells fights.
Habib is, is the purest fighter of them all.
He fights when no one's looking.
He thinks that fighting is a competition between a man and a bear and nothing
should get in the way of that.
The craziest thing for him to do that though, is that he took away from an
absolutely dominating performance.
Like he owned McGregor.
It went four rounds, but it really didn't.
If you watched it, there was not one second where you thought, oh,
McGregor might win this fight.
It was basically just toying with him.
Like, okay, when does he want to finish this?
So suffocated.
Right.
And the fact that, that he did all that to basically take away from it kind of
sucks for him.
And I know McGregor has kind of done some scummy things.
I'm not saying that he hasn't.
They can both be scumbags in their own right.
But still, it was just insanity.
Yeah.
I mean, I loved it.
I love the drama.
I stayed up.
Like we're trying to watch every single post fight there.
It was an honorable move for him to keep fighting.
I'm actually, yeah, it was a man of honor.
I'm a little surprised that this stuff doesn't happen more often because like,
okay, so you go and you watch a baseball game.
Usually one of the first things you want to do is go home and like play
catch the next day.
Like you go watch a basketball game.
You want to go hit the gym and like take a few jump shots.
You go watch a fight.
You want to fight like that.
That's the blood going.
I asked McGregor if the situations were reversed, people would have fucking
loved it.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm being totally honest with you.
I actually had no problem with him going into the stance.
Like I actually didn't.
The only thing I had a problem with was he choked him out and he like
essentially had to be ripped off him because he didn't want to let go of
him and then he gave him like a push and a spit.
And the guy is like a hump, you know, humped over half dead.
Like that's when a fight's over.
You shouldn't try to keep fighting the guy.
Right.
That's really when he went in the stands is like, this is awesome.
This is fucking awesome.
What about the guys that jumped into the octagon though and try to fight
McGregor?
Well, so there was so we didn't see till much later, but I guess McGregor
might have thrown a punch at another Habib guy.
So that is a scumbag move by McGregor.
It was in the ring.
Yes.
That's scumbag move by McGregor because you're a trained fighter.
You can't just throw like trying to throw haymakers at people.
I mean, he was standing on a cage.
Yeah, but still the guy in red though was number one.
He jumped in, in the ring and tried to punch McGregor from behind.
I'll tell you what, it takes some balls to jump into the ring and try
to fight Connor McGregor.
Right.
Yeah.
This isn't like that drunk guy falling into the penalty box of
Ty Domey and getting his sweater pulled over.
It was this is like an intentional.
Okay.
I'm going to go get into a fist fight with Connor McGregor.
Yes.
And then kind of respect.
And the best moment of the night wasn't even that.
It was the black beast taking off his pants and cause his balls were too hot.
My balls are hot.
And Joe Rogan being like, I understand.
I get it happens.
Sometimes the testicles just, they start to sweat.
Yeah.
Fun night though.
I mean, UFC, I love watching big night.
I'm not like a big time.
What is a grapple grapple fuck?
Grapple fuck.
I'm not a grapple fuck.
No, not a raised seam head.
Uh-huh.
I don't claim to be a grapple fuck.
I actually openly admit that I don't.
I've actually think that the UFC community has been a little bit nicer
to me because I'm like, yo, I don't know what I'm talking about.
I just like fights, right?
But a night like that is why you, you buy the big fight.
Yep.
Flood everywhere, knockouts, and people going to the stands and trying to
kick the shit out of each other.
It's wonderful.
Yeah.
It's great.
Peace and love.
Someone actually tweeted at me.
They're like, why can't people just get along?
It's like, well, it is UFC.
This is a fight.
There it is human cock fighting.
They're trying to kill each other inside of an octagon.
Uh, okay.
Football guy of the week.
Let's do it.
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Let's do football guy of the week.
We got some good ones this week.
First up, we have Michigan football, Michigan fullback, Ben Mason,
who, if you remember from our Jim Harbaugh interview, Jim Harbaugh
actually, didn't he foreshadow this?
He said this guy was born to be a fullback.
Right.
He loves hitting people.
He was a linebacker initially, correct?
Yes.
He's brought in as a linebacker and Harbaugh was like, this guy
loves hitting people so much.
I want him to hit on offense.
I want him to be an offensive linebacker.
So, he nailed it because Ben Mason had a quote and a big graphic on
during the Michigan Maryland game and it said, I just like football.
I like hitting people.
Yep.
It's as simple as it could get.
That is as true football guy as possible.
And he hurtled a guy?
And he hurtled a guy.
And then there was one other play where he picked up a blitz, pancake
the blitzer, got on his feet and then pancake the defensive lineman.
Two pancakes.
It's perfect.
That's perfect.
If he was on that high school team, he'd just be just served.
I call this guy I hop because he hurdles over people and then he pancakes.
Pancakes.
Oh, that's good.
Although, no, it's I hop now.
Remember?
Oh, they changed the burgers.
That was so funny when they did that.
Yeah.
And everyone thought it was going to stick around.
Yeah.
There was so much buzz.
Next up, we have Christian McCaffrey who didn't know that they were
kicking a game-winning field goal because he was focused on the next play.
So, the quote was, I had the surface in my hand going over a play with
running back coach Jim Skipper.
Didn't even realize, didn't put two and two together.
It was a game-winning field goal.
Saw Cohen, saw everybody jumping around.
So, I threw it in and joined them.
Is that actually not a football guy though?
Because he was not aware of the game.
No, he's so locked in on what he can do to improve.
Okay.
I think that counts.
All right, that counts.
You're right.
I also like the attention to detail.
The NFL has gotten better at this the last couple of years.
They used to just call the surfaces.
They used to call them knockoff iPads.
Yeah.
And then not realizing that Apple paid like $370 million.
No, Microsoft.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You did it.
You just did it.
I just did it to like not call them iPads.
Right.
You call them surface pros.
Right.
This guy's a surface pros pro.
Yes, absolutely.
And then we have Butch Davis, Florida.
What is it?
What's that value?
FIU.
What is it?
Florida International.
Is it?
Yeah.
Is that really the name of the school?
Florida International.
Yeah, which doesn't really make a lot of...
What's that?
Yeah.
How does that make sense?
It means that they have a lot of exchange students.
I don't know.
It's really Florida International.
It's the first time I've seen that.
They didn't have any dorms.
So, they just asked all their students to put up exchange students in their houses.
That's wild.
And they're like, might as well just lean into it.
I just made that part up.
So, Florida Institute University, I think.
Yes, that's it.
It's definitely not that.
The Florida Institute of Universities.
Yes.
Florida International.
What the hell?
Why is it Florida International?
I don't know.
They're close to Cuba, I guess.
Ish?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, Butch Davis said, when asked about turnover props, he said, yeah, we got a prop.
We allow them to keep their scholarships if they get a turnover.
That's great.
That's fantastic.
We give out turnover homework.
Yes, exactly.
So, and then last up, we have Cash Daniel, who actually is nominated this week.
Kentucky did lose, but he tried to kill me on Thursday night.
So, I went over to his house.
We were in Luxon, Kentucky, and he said, come over.
We'll have family dinner, which was his roommates, and we came over.
I was with Caleb, Bron, Tommy, Dave, and we showed up and we're sitting there watching
a game, and all of a sudden, one of his roommates came out of the kitchen and said, everyone
in the kitchen right now, and they all ran in the kitchen.
And I guess there was a huge fire because then we were almost suffocated with smoke.
And Cash Daniel kind of rolled with the punches.
He's like, sorry, guys, like my bad.
The food was going to be good.
I guess the football guy to try to just kill everyone.
Yeah.
I don't really know.
Well, I think he probably harbors some deep seed resentment towards us for not including
him on football guy of the week.
Yes.
The best was that they went in there.
They use a fire extinguisher on the oven.
Yeah.
So, all the food, there was about 10 minutes, and then they came out and said, dinner's canceled.
They tried to solve it.
10 minutes where they were like, maybe they won't notice that we sprayed a fire extinguisher
all over this chicken.
They're scraping off the powder and the foam.
They're like, yeah, we can still make this happen, guys.
Yes.
All right.
So, those are our nominees.
I vote Ben Mason.
Yeah, Ben Mason's pretty, butch David's pretty damn good.
That's also good.
Yeah.
Let's see how little votes Cash Daniel can get.
Yeah.
Nobody vote for Cash.
Nobody vote for Cash.
What about Breckenhager, the Texas linebacker?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They asked him after the game, if Texas was back, and he said, back to going, we're
going back to work.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a pretty good answer.
Texas is back.
They are back.
That was an awesome game.
You want to get into who's back of the week?
Yeah, let's do it.
All right.
So, I guess we can just say Texas off the bat.
Okay, let's do it.
They are back in a big way.
They were almost very, very back because we were going to have to not know the answer
to whether or not Texas was back because they gave up two really long touchdowns at
the end of the game and made everybody sweat it out.
But yeah, they're absolutely back.
Yes.
They're for real.
They're so back.
They got a stoop's fired.
So, Bob Stoop's brother was the defensive coordinator.
He got fired.
That was a dead man walking position though.
If you stick around after your brother who's the head coach leaves, you just know that
you're going to be the first head to rule.
Yes, absolutely.
But yeah, Texas, that was a hell of a performance.
I doubted them for a while.
I mean, when you lose to Maryland back, back years, it's fair to doubt them.
Yeah, Maryland's just-
But they put together some nice wins.
Yeah, Maryland's the kryptonite to Texas football.
Yeah.
It is, I love how they have dicker the kicker.
Yeah, dicker the kicker.
That guy was not going to miss.
And Gus Johnson is just getting bored with the fact that he's the best big game announcer,
like dramatic announcer, and he's trying out new stuff.
He, after dicker the kicker hit the field goal, he just yelled earthquake.
He just goes, earthquake!
Texas is back!
Well, I mean, how does that have anything to do with-
How does an earthquake have to do with the kick?
Well, there's a lot of fracking going on up in North Texas.
I guess so.
Yeah, there we go.
I mean, it was-
But I think he just, I think Gus Johnson is at point where he's like,
I can just yell words emphatically and people will say I'm the best.
Yeah, I think that temporarily, I'm lifting the restraining order on saying the S word.
That was a shootout.
That was a red river shootout.
So, we can describe this game-
You can call whatever you want, but it's still the red river shootout.
So after the game, when they present the trophy,
it's got like the golden cowboy hat on top of the trophy stand.
Is that thing supposed to come off?
Ah, yes.
Or did they break it?
No, it's supposed to.
You're supposed to be able to wear it.
Yeah.
Remember Charlie Strong.
That's what I thought.
The long finger is one moment.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, but-
Longest finger ever.
I was secretly hoping that they broke the trophy.
Yeah, that would be great.
That would be great.
There's too many trophies, by the way.
And that's not like a millennial thing,
but Wisconsin-Nebraska played for a trophy that looked like a pastry.
I'm pretty sure every Wisconsin game, somebody gets a trophy, right?
Yeah, it's like a slap of bacon.
Yeah.
Yeah, a bacon or a pot of beans.
We usually win something like that.
Do you have any other who's back?
Yeah, I've got a couple who's backs.
Okay, do it.
Fred Durst is back.
Do tell.
Did you see he was performing over the weekend?
And-
Oh, I can't say I did.
Yeah.
And Shaggy Too Dope, one of the two lead singers from Insane Cloud Posse,
rushed up on the stage and tried to drop kick him off the stage.
And Durst nearly avoided the kick by like half a step,
and then he called Shaggy Too Dope a pussy.
Can I ask a question?
Yeah.
Were there more than 250 people there?
I only saw cameras that were facing the stage.
And I saw two different views of it.
I was trying to break down the angles,
but it just dawned on me those might have been the only two people there.
And they were both recording.
It actually was just a fight.
It was just an MMA fight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm actually surprised that anybody went there was recording anything,
because why would you want anybody to know that you were going to see-
You were there.
Yeah.
Fred Durst solo performance.
No, there's definitely an underground Florida street racing community
where we're showing like a video of you at a Fred Durst concert still placed.
You get cred?
Yeah, you still get- you still probably can hook up with some checks
if you're like, yo, did you see what I did this weekend?
Yeah.
Fred Durst.
Remember him?
Limp biscuit?
Not to brag?
You want to hop into my-
It's one of four people that saw this concert.
Yeah, babe.
Get in my Honda Civic SI with the racing seats.
Yeah.
It's pretty badass.
Yeah.
And the sweet spoiler on the back.
We're going to Sonic.
We're doing it.
Some racing stripes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next.
That was a who's back.
I can't say I saw coming.
Yeah.
And then Boomer's back.
Okay.
Yeah.
Boomer was on the call for the Major League Baseball radio for the Braves Dodgers game.
Yes, he's been doing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he was- he did-
Put it in.
Back, back.
Yeah.
Let's put it in.
Put it in.
Three-one pitch.
Hit all the way to left field.
Back it goes.
Back, back, back, back.
God!
A grand slam!
He can't legally buy a drink.
But he can hit a grand slam in the postseason.
So sexy.
So awesome.
Yeah.
He's-
I listened to him a couple days ago.
He's been doing a bunch of baseball games and it's just- it's perfect.
I like to think that nobody knows when Boomer's going to be on the call.
Just like if he shows up to a game, it's- it's an unwritten rule of broadcasting.
Yeah.
That if you get tapped on your shoulder and it's Boomer behind you and he's like,
take a hike kid, you have to just let him have the call.
Right.
It's like a mafia guy having a booth at a restaurant.
Yeah.
He might not- he might not come to dinner for a month, but if he shows up,
you're getting out of that booth.
Exactly.
Yep.
That's what he- that's Boomer.
All right.
Hank, you go.
Oh, my who's back the week is Banksy.
Yes.
Yeah.
Good call.
I don't know if you guys saw this, but he did a painting back in the day and he built
in a like shredder into the painting in case the painting ever got sold for auction.
Mm-hmm.
This weekend it got sold for like $1.3 million and right after the person bought it,
it just started shredding.
Yep.
And all the people that were there were like horrified.
He put in a self-destruct thing, huh?
Yes.
But I heard this might have been like an all-time backfire because it was worth more
after it got shredded.
Absolutely going to be worth more.
Yeah.
As hilarious as it's going to be worth more.
Someone will just reframe it and be like, look at this is the one that Banksy shredded.
Mm-hmm.
I love Banksy.
But Banksy's back.
He's so deep.
Yeah.
He's so-
You ever see the one where he's got like Mickey Mouse?
What's his name?
He's painting though his name, right?
Actually, we can't.
I don't think we can say it.
Yeah, we can't say it.
He'll kill us.
But I do know his name.
Yeah.
You ever see the painting he did where it's like Mickey Mouse wearing gas masks?
Yes.
And then they're all like, they're praying to a big statue, but the statue's just a dollar sign?
Yeah.
So deep.
Yep.
That's capitalism, dude.
What makes you think, man?
It's fucking capitalism.
All right, next?
I'm not whose back was foliage.
I thought we were only doing one who's back on Monday.
I only have one, yeah.
Foliage is back.
Foliage is back in a big one.
I don't think it is yet.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I guess because we live in this shit hole of a city, we don't know.
There are no trees.
Foliage is back.
Someone tell me, someone tweet me a picture of foliage so I know that foliage is back.
Somebody tell me what a lake and a tree looks like in a plant.
I actually-
I actually planted a lot.
Not to go on a little side-side bar here, but I had an idea today that they should have
pictures that you can smell.
Like so you can send pictures you can smell because I parked my car today.
Called scratch and sniff.
No, but it's like you can, no, digital.
On your phones.
Yeah.
Twitter.
I tweet a picture and people can just smell it.
Yeah.
Because I parked my car today and it was, I think it was in a pile of oil, diarrhea, puke,
and there was some kind of shredded, like there was some kind of glass that maybe was,
it was actually probably a glass of diarrhea that got, that got broken.
Somebody dropped it.
And I wanted to, and there was a trash bag and I wanted to take a picture and just be like,
gotta love this city.
Yeah.
Actually, if you, here's a weird thing with the new iPhone.
If you go to scratch and sniff.com, smell your phone.
Yeah.
It's actually like a scratch and sniff.
Yeah.
And then go to draftjoshallon.com.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can-
I just want to, I just wonder how many people have tried to smell their iPhone right now.
Swag phone.
Maybe someone.
Maybe one person.
Yeah.
There's one-
Gotcha.
There's one high guy.
Hey, Tim, I got you.
You're too high for a Monday morning.
I know it's Columbus Day, but you're too high to be smelling your phone.
All right.
My who's back is the clutch gene.
Yeah.
The clutch gene is big time back because, or the absence of the clutch gene.
Because David Price, big time question, how can he be so bad, 0 and 10 in the postseason?
Well, turns out, I was reading an article, they're actually, there's actually now people
studying the clutch gene and it is very much a real thing.
Yes.
Yeah.
So they, they, you can, you can not, you can not only have the clutch gene, but you
can strengthen the clutch gene.
How?
So here's how I read it.
I don't know a lot about genetics.
I'll read it to you.
Well, a decade ago, Jackson's, it was talking about Reggie Jackson, how he had the clutch
gene and he might have been regarded as pure bluster researchers who study the brains
of athletes, believe more and more that a so-called clutch gene exists.
They've seen enough incremental improvement through brain training that they regarded
as a muscle capable of being built and likewise atrophying and that limiting the chasm between
mental and physical and powers athletes to succeed.
That's awesome.
So it's the clutch muscle.
We need to get the clutch brain to do some kegels for our clutch gene.
Yeah.
Well, how do you do that?
Um, I want to train.
I need to play a lot of, a lot of Madden, fourth quarter Madden.
Okay.
Yeah.
Just, just simulate into the fourth quarter.
Right.
Right.
Just get it going.
Right.
Yeah.
Or play, play that Tiger Woods golf game where the controller beats like you can feel
the heartbeat.
Yes.
And just only do those shots.
Yes.
So we got to work on our clutch gene.
Yeah.
Um, that's great news.
I'm really glad that somebody's finally studying this besides me.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, we needed, we needed someone who had maybe an M may probably, probably doesn't
have an MD, probably a PhD to stick their name on this.
Yeah.
Um, it reminds me of like, there was an article in ESP in the magazine way back in
the day, like 2000.
And it said that, uh, Tim Duncan would never win an NBA title and Jason Kidd would
win multiple ones because of the, uh, structure of their face.
And you could study somebody's face to determine.
Is this a Nazi book you're reading?
It was ESP in the magazine.
So you tell me.
So maybe who's to say.
Um, but yeah, it was like the study of, uh, people like the, the makeup of your, uh,
your facial structure, your cheekbones, your nose, how it's all aligned.
What it will determine whether or not you're going to be an effective leader.
Oh man.
That's some wild stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, if you, if you write enough words about it, I won't read it, but I'll
believe it.
Yes.
I mean, I'm, I'm thinking about getting back into it for knowledge over it.
Yeah.
I will skim over and be like, okay, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
But yeah.
The clutch gene, this was just, this was like a thing that nerds did to us where
they tried to put everything on a spreadsheet and take away the clutch
gene, anyone who's watched any sports for any amount of their life knows the
clutch gene exists.
You know what nerds didn't do growing up.
They didn't stand in the backyard saying three, two, one, as they were
attempting that shot on their basketball.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I've got a lifetime of training.
I was practicing of practicing without any friends.
No, you, what you do is you do the down one, two free throws because then
you're going to at least hit one.
Yeah.
And then you go and then you, and then you, and then you steal the ball.
Yeah.
Then you steal the ball and shoot it.
So it's a good way to do it.
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Here he is.
Pete Prisco.
Okay.
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All right, Pete, we want to talk about week five and the just so everyone
knows we didn't we were planning on having you on like four days ago.
It just so happened that this is now the Blake Bortles isn't bad.
Everyone shut up meeting.
So meeting is now in order.
Explain to us why Blake Bortles is not bad and everyone just shut up already.
Wait, get through for 400 yards today.
There you go, Pete.
That's what I'm talking about.
Well, I mean, look, the screen pass was a terrible play.
All right, look, and there's a lot of quarterbacks that have made that play
with a bad play.
I picked it off and took it back.
There's one that dogged off the helmet.
I can't figure that one out.
I can't defend them on that one at all.
He was just trying to he was trying to get his office alignment involved.
It was raining.
It was raining.
No, no excuse for the one.
Hey, look, he didn't play great football today.
He wasn't terrible though, but every time he makes a mistake, it's magnified by
100 because of the Twitter posse that jumped in on him.
Nobody's sitting here saying he's a great quarterback, but he's better than
people give him credit for.
And, you know, he didn't get a lot of help from the offensive line today.
Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with his last name Bortles.
Bortles is just like a fun name to highlight when somebody screws up.
And I'm sick of it, frankly.
Like just finding new slant for it.
I can't figure out why anybody doesn't.
I mean, they killed a kid.
Yeah.
And then same, same quarterbacks make the same mistake.
Other quarterbacks make the same mistake.
They'll be killed.
That's what I tweeted something because Ryan Tannehill threw one off of his
linemen that got took, but it was taken back for a pick six.
And I was like, Oh my God, who would ever do this?
What an idiot.
Like this, it does happen in the NFL.
Now we're not going to talk all Blake, but it's good that you led with the 400
yards because I agree there.
Good game by Blake.
Rain.
Listen.
He also was playing against the greatest quarterback of all time.
Do you believe in the Patrick Mahone's hype?
Do you think it's ever going to come back down to earth?
Or is he just that special?
What came back down there was a little bit today.
So he didn't talk.
He threw two picks.
If you would have said that before the game, that the Jacksonville Jaguars
helped Patrick Mahone.
So that would touch down.
And he threw his first two interceptions.
You would have said they won the game, right?
Yep.
I mean, so it wasn't a great day for him.
And I think I do think there's going to be a little correction on him.
I love the kid.
I think he's a star.
I love the way he throws it around.
He's got that gunslinger mentality.
He's got a wobbly neck.
People rushing into the Hall of Fame.
I mean, my God, it was four games.
They were rushing into the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, I'm going to slow your roll on these guys.
See, I figured that you would be the guy that would be the only person
out there dying on that hill of like, let's pump the brakes on Patrick Mahone's.
But it seems like you're just as star-strung as everybody else.
Like, is that fair?
No, I'm star-strung because I love the way the kid plays the game.
Not the one who's racing them up to the Hall of Fame.
That's not me.
I think you do got to pump the brakes.
Until you get, you know, a 10-game, 12-game, you know, look at these guys,
it's so hard to really get a true analysis on them.
And I think it's the same with Cherbisky now this year.
Everybody's like, oh, he threw those touchdown passes.
Cherbisky's now Jared Gough.
Is he?
I mean, you've got to wait on these guys.
You've got to give it a little time.
I like how you're holding Jared Gough up now as the standard of, like,
elite quarterback play.
We've been on that for several years.
Welcome aboard.
There was one particular player that I thought stood out a little bit this
weekend, and I wanted to give you credit because you were two years ahead of the
curve on him, Michael Johnson, on the Bengals.
If you recall, I think Pete had him as, like, his number one player in the
entire NFL two years ago.
Is that, did I get that right?
Yes, I think you did.
No, wrong.
No, you're rushing things.
By the way, I got, you mentioned Jared Gough.
When I was, last time I did you guys podcast, I was in, I was at the Rams
campus and he came up to me and he goes, did you just do their podcast?
And I said, yeah, and he said he was going to give it a listen because he
knows how entertaining I am.
No, he was like, oh, you're the George Sky that everyone's kind of scared of
because you're just a short, fiery Italian that yells at old women.
That's you.
Okay.
Cool.
I never yell at old women.
I yell at men.
All right.
So Pete, let's do this because we are through five weeks and there's some
got, there's some teams at the top of the leader of their standings that I
think we could all agree.
Like they have had a history of kind of falling apart.
You have the Bengals top of the AFC North.
You have the, the chiefs, the top of the AFC West and let's throw in, let's
throw in the Redskins at the top of the NFC East.
Which of those teams do you think is going to fall back down to earth or
which ones are a hundred percent for real?
The chiefs are for real and they will stay there.
The rest of that division, I mean the chargers are okay, but the rest of that
division is not very good.
Denver gave up 3,000 yards rushing today.
They're not good.
So the chiefs will stay there.
The Redskins, I don't know about it and we'll know a little bit more about
them tomorrow.
I like what I've seen so far, but now they go to New Orleans coming off the
buy.
If they get ambushed there, then here's the question for that one.
Who does win the NFC East?
Right.
Anybody any good in that division?
Yeah.
No, I think whoever wins this Monday night game is going to make the playoffs.
I think the Saints in the NFC South, I think they'll be in a really good
position if they win, but I think, I don't know.
I think the Saints are, I trust them more than I trust the R-Words right now.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Winner of the game probably does make the playoffs, but look at that division
now.
The Falcons can't stop anybody.
They're pretty much done.
The Bucks, who knows when they get winced and back and Carolina, they
eke out a game coming off the buy and home against the Giants team that was
terrible against the Saints last week.
So a lot of the teams, you know, we thought were good, aren't very good.
And, you know, the Bengals are one of those teams that nobody thought was going
to be very good.
They're playing pretty good football.
So I think the Bengals will make the playoffs, but of course, you know what
they'll do once they get in there.
Yeah, week one against the Texans.
The first game, the wild card game against the Texans, and it'll be like a
20 to 13 game that nobody's going to pay attention to.
You've got the Texans in already.
Well, I'm just saying that Saturday game is, you know, that's reserved on
a calendar for the Texans and the Bengals to get together and play a game at
like 2.30.
And the Texans actually beat the Bengals in that Saturday game once.
Yes, they did.
Yeah.
Yes.
No, they did not because Marvin Jackson or Marvin Lewis has never won a
playoff game.
So they definitely don't say the Texans beat them.
Oh, the Texans.
Yeah.
Yes.
I think JJ Watt had like a pick six or something stupid like that.
Well, they played the Bengals than they want because the Bengals stink.
Are the Bengals for real though?
Like what is the weakness?
They're my team.
What is the weakness in the Bengals right now?
Third down defense.
They went into today last in the league on third down defense.
But now they got perfect back, which will help that.
But, you know, can they stop anybody consistently on third down?
That to me is their biggest weakness.
What is the deal with the Falcons?
Because I, you know, I famously was like, oh, yeah, 2017.
I loved them.
I bet on them.
I lost a lot of money on them.
I'm doing the same thing this year thinking they will turn into the Super Bowl Falcons.
Do you think that that ship has fully sailed?
And do you think I'm not going to talk about another man's job?
But Dan Quinn has to be on the hot seat.
If these, if the Falcons win like four games this year.
No, he gets a free pass because of the defensive injuries.
I mean, they lost the middle of their defense.
Today they play without Grady Jarrett.
Deion Jones is not there.
And then the two starting safeties are both gone.
Yeah.
I mean, you take away the middle of the defense.
You're asking for problems.
And then that puts even more pressure on the offense to go out and try and make plays.
And he got killed today.
I mean, I don't know if you guys saw the game.
The guy got brutalized.
He got faxed six times and it was just awful.
So no, I don't, Dan Quinn's not in trouble at all.
I disagree.
That defense only put up 17 points against the Steelers.
So that's fair.
That's a fair.
I appreciate you, Pete, because I am obviously I like to do hot takes and I would just be
like, yeah, he's on the hot seat because just because.
But with with that many defensive injuries, it kind of makes sense that they are absolutely.
I mean, they lost their best defensive player in the first game.
It makes sense that they're getting absolutely gashed and they're one and four in and the
season's over for them.
It is over.
They're done.
Dunchain.
Pete Prisco put the Dunchain on the dirty birds.
Um, okay.
Well, yeah, they're done.
Another team that's been kind of knocked up with some injuries is the, uh, the Packers.
Is this, uh, is this Mike McCarthy on the hot seat for real this time?
If they don't turn it around at the end of the year, you'd be on the hot seat.
Not right now in the middle of the season.
But I mean, look, when you have your quarterback basically calling you out during the week
for the way you play.
And, and I think he, that's exactly what he was doing.
Uh, yeah, you're going to be on the hot seat.
Look at that team though.
They don't run any, any of the window dressing that the other teams run in on
offense.
And that's why I think Aaron Rodgers gets frustrated.
He sees the Rams and all the pre snap movement and how they get guys open and
his guys line up, they put one over there to the left and two to the right.
And they say, go win.
No picks, no rub, no bunches, nothing.
It's a, it's an ISO route offense from, you know, the 1980s, the old West Coast
offense.
So I think that he gets frustrated by that.
And I think that's why he left out this week.
Well, another guy that lashed out, uh, Odell Beckham, trouble in paradise up in
New York, like, what do you think about a guy that gets a big contract and then
like immediately proceeds to, to bash his team in, uh, in the media?
Yeah, they're all like, I mean, everybody's like that.
It's all about me.
You know, what's good for me is good for me.
I live by that.
I'm a big believer in that.
And every player, if you ask him truthfully to say what's more important me or
the team, they would say me because that's how they make their money.
So I get it.
I understand he's frustrated and he should be getting, you know, the ball thrown
in his direction a lot more.
I get it.
I understand it.
I have no problem with it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, he had Lil Wayne next to him too.
So it was like, you know, I don't know what that was.
What was that all about?
I saw it.
I didn't watch the interview.
We were on and I saw it on there.
What, what, what was that all about?
Why was he on there?
Cause they're buddies.
They're just wanting to like team up and do an interview real quick for some reason.
Yeah.
But do you bring, do you bring buddies on when you go do your interviews?
I guess you do.
You do it together.
Yeah.
All the time.
Yeah.
We sit on each other's lap.
Yeah.
I, I bring Ted Nugent to all my interviews.
Pete, were you one of the, the Patriots are in trouble?
Real trouble after the Lions?
You promise?
Tell, tell the, I'll tell you the truth.
Tell the truth.
No, I promise.
Tell the truth.
As long as Bob, Jake and Brady are still around, they're going to be fine.
Okay.
And then you got the, you got the car wash.
Josh Gordon went through the car wash and New England as a way of, no matter who
they bring in there, aside from Robert Hayesworth, who's beyond help of somehow
turning their seat, life and careers around to make it a better players.
Yeah.
I mean, it's hard to, hard to argue with that.
So, so I actually am looking at the standings right now and basically
half of these divisions are kind of decided when we're looking at it.
Well, half the divisions are, yeah.
Well, I mean, okay.
So New England's going to win that division, right?
Pretty much done deal.
Yep.
Okay.
Who's going to win the NFC South?
Is Jacksonville going to win?
That one's up for grabs.
You get the chiefs in the West and then you could make the, obviously make the
argument, the AFC North stuff for grab because you don't know the bank, the
Browns.
Let's talk about the Browns for a second.
Do you think the Browns could actually make the playoffs because they have
been in every single one of their games, obviously the record two and two, two
and one, but they have been, they have, they have been, had a chance to win
in the fourth quarter in every single one of their games.
They have, and they play really good defense, by the way.
I mean, that defense, people aren't giving that defense enough credit.
And Greg Williams on that side of the ball to play great defense, but I don't
think they're a playoff team this year.
I think they'll, you know, push for eight and eight season and then next year
there'll be a playoff team.
How about that early prediction?
I think the Browns will be a playoff team next year.
Isn't that, isn't, wait, but isn't that almost like a death sentence for the
Browns and hear me out.
The Browns either want to go finish like five wins or get to the playoffs this
year because eight and eight to me means Hugh Jackson sticks around.
They don't get to the playoffs.
Hugh Jackson sticks, sticks around and I'm sorry.
I don't think Hugh Jackson is the guy.
I think a lot of this fourth quarter stuff we're talking about the fact
they're in games and can't close falls on Hugh Jackson.
So, so treading water a little bit here.
Wouldn't that be the worst case scenario where now Hugh Jackson is linked
with Baker Mayfield going forward?
If you think Hugh Jackson is not the guy that is, I'm not saying he is or
isn't, but would you rather be eight and eight and six and 10?
Well, that's a good question.
But that's, that's kind of a, they can't be, they can't be eight and eight though.
They can't be eight and eight, but that's very true.
Well, you know what I mean?
Seven, eight more than eight, seven and one or whatever.
Don't make the playoffs.
Wouldn't you rather be that than, than five wins?
No, I think it's all, it's all Baker.
It's all, the Browns are not judged this season.
It's kind of like with Mitch Trebisky in Chicago, where if you have a young
quarterback, it's less about wins and losses and more about is this going
to be the guy and can he prove that he's going to be the guy and can he have
the right people around him so that he is the guy.
So going eight and eight means that Baker probably is the guy, but
Hugh Jackson is still the coach.
Yeah, but I mean, still, look, they're going to win games this year.
Look at their schedule coming up.
They got, talk about a chance for the offense to get right.
They play some of the worst defenses in the league coming up.
So I do think that they have a chance to get this, you know, seven or eight
wins.
I just, they're not going to be a playoff team.
Okay.
What about on the other side of the ball, the Ravens, you got them in the playoffs?
Yeah, I did.
So today, I mean, that was awful.
Now they got to play a third straight road game next week at Tennessee.
That's brutal.
Yeah.
Are they ever going to let Lamar Jackson throw the ball because they just put
them in in the Wildcats.
Yeah, that was ridiculous today.
They put them in the game.
They get driving down the field.
They got a little bit of a rhythm and they put him in the game and he throws
an incomplete pass and they take him right out of the rhythm.
That's stupid.
Yeah, it's very weird how they're choosing to use them.
I don't know why they, like, if you're going to put your backup quarterback on
the field, at least like give the threat that he's going to pass the ball.
They ran one play where he passed it today.
I'll give them credit for that.
But every other time he's had the ball, like, it would be more likely that Ronnie
Brown was going to throw the ball out of the Wildcat than Lamar Jackson.
And he's got a, he's got a howitzer on his arm.
Yeah.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me what they do, how they take their
team out of a rhythm.
I wouldn't be happy if I was Joe Flacco getting taken out in that situation.
Yeah.
But I mean, he's also, he's had more than enough chances to be the guy.
And so now they're going to try to try to dance with someone else.
He's played pretty good football.
He has, he has, because he has the pressure of Lamar Jackson.
What other, you know what he has?
He has Lamar Jackson, who's actually lit a fire on them a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
And RG three.
Yeah.
Let's not forget about Robert Griffin.
What other, what other big storylines you're working on that you see like a
trends out of, cause five weeks we are now at a point where we have kind of a
sample size of like, okay, we know what these teams are.
We know that the Falcons are done.
We know that the Steelers are going to be up and down, but they'll still
probably be there in December, that kind of stuff.
And is anybody, here's the question you need to ask.
Is anybody really any good right now?
Ooh, that's a very good question.
Great question.
Rams?
Yeah.
Rams and the Chiefs.
Yeah.
Rams were within a whisper losing to Seattle at home.
Yeah.
Let's stop.
People forget it's, it's very loud up there.
And the, the delicate ears of the LA teams, they're not used to that.
You can't tell me you don't think the Rams are good.
I mean, the Rams are good.
No, I love watching the Rams on offense.
I think the Rams have defective issues.
Two weeks in a row, they've been just destroyed on that side of the football.
Okay.
Little banged up.
So, all right.
And here's where their issues are.
Ready?
They don't have outside edge rushers.
Everybody keeps saying, we got Sue and you got Donald.
But in that defense, the way that defense is built,
Wade Phillips needs to have outside edge rushers.
They don't have them.
That's going to be a problem.
Okay.
I'll write that down in my tickler file for later.
Who besides the Rams is good in the NFC?
Who's going to challenge them?
Who?
I don't, you tell me.
There's nobody.
The Chicago Bears.
Watch out.
They're going to lose to Miami.
Got your little interest.
No, no.
Got your little interest.
They're there.
The Bears are clearly the class of the NFC besides the Rams.
We've established that.
They're making a championship game.
Got your little interested there, PD.
Don't you think, don't you think Rodgers will get his team right though?
Yes, of course he will.
Cause he always does.
That's why I fucking hate Aaron Rodgers because this is what he does.
Every single year, he does this little song and dance.
Like, oh, I'm hurt.
Oh, I don't like Mike McCarthy.
Oh, this team stinks.
Oh, I want to go somewhere else.
And then they end up 10 and six or 11 and five and they win a few playoff games.
Here's one for you guys.
Ready?
Would you, we had this debate today in our green room.
Would you, if you, are you, is it better to have a cheap quarterback and build your
team around them rather than pay the franchise quarterback?
Yes.
In other words, here's what somebody was trying to say, that if you have your guy
you draft him, like for example, Jericho, but in year four, are you better off letting
them walk and paying them and continue to build your team and get another one?
That's a, that's a good question.
I don't buy that one at all.
No, if you have your guy, you have to keep them.
But obviously there is the, the element of you got to try to, like the Rams are
going win now.
The Bears did something similar with, they could afford giving Khalil Mack a ton of
money because they have Mitch on a cheap contract.
So the Russell Wilson Seahawks.
Yeah.
But when you get to the fourth year of those guys and you got to give them a new deal,
do you give them a new deal and hinder the fact that you can build guys around them or
do you, for example, the Raiders gave Derek Carr a big contract and they've been hurt
by that because he's not good enough.
Right.
Yeah.
Joe Flacco.
The Cowboys.
Did the Cowboys give Dak Prescott a big time?
No, he's a bum.
He's a bum.
He's a bum.
What's wrong with Dak Prescott?
Give us a quick take on Dak Prescott.
Here's what's wrong with Dak Prescott.
The offensive line hasn't played as well.
No, Fredrick, but the other guys haven't played up to expectations other than Zach Martin.
They have nobody can stretch a defense.
Everybody sits in squats on everything.
He has to drive the ball down the field.
And so you add that all up and it's easy to defend them.
Yeah.
And he's throwing to guys that are just like, I don't know.
They got Cole Beasley and I don't know who else they have.
And they're rude to, he was rude to us when we had him on the show.
He was very rude.
His favorite color is gray.
Yeah.
You can't win with a quarterback like that.
I want a guy who appreciates color rush.
His favorite color is not purple.
Oh, yes it is.
That can't be.
Yeah.
You can't win a Super Bowl with that.
No.
You just, you can't do it.
You've got to have something.
You've got to have a little, I mean, my favorite color is purple.
That's cool.
What?
Wow.
The King's color.
Nice.
Yeah, I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
Yeah, but no, or eat a lot of red meat.
I don't eat a lot of red meat either.
You don't?
You got foot pain?
You don't drink?
No, but I know people were upped out.
They say it's one of the most painful things you've ever had in your life.
Besides back pain.
It's that back pain and breaking your foot too.
Yeah.
Those are the three.
You want to do those.
Who broke your foot?
I broke my foot a while ago.
Hey Pete, what's your favorite Sopranos episode?
Favorite Sopranos?
That's a good question.
Yeah, I know it is.
Fucking right.
I don't know if I like the last one.
Did you guys?
What happened at the end?
What happened at the end?
Yeah.
When they went into the diner or whatever, they played dirty song.
Yeah, and then what happened though?
I can't remember.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
Nobody knows what happened.
It was a big mystery.
Real quick, back to the Cowboys.
Is Des Bryant going to get signed anywhere this year?
No.
So he's done?
He's done?
What's the Cowboys need?
Another guy who can't run.
He can't run.
Okay.
They have enough of those guys who can't run.
But he wasn't bad last year.
He wasn't good, but he was still an average wide receiver.
We're not talking about just with the Cowboys.
Is he going to get signed anywhere?
No, I don't think so.
So he's done?
So his career is over?
I would think so.
He'd be signed already if somebody was going to sign him.
Yeah.
All right, I have my Seeky question.
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Pete, give us your, like, give us a story that no one's really talking about.
Give us the, give us the sources.
Give us something, you know, little, some of the, some of the fell off the back of the
truck.
You know what I mean?
Like, involving the league right now.
Yeah.
The league or a player or a team, like, oh, this guy might be on a hot seat or check
out this.
Look, look for this story coming down everyone's pipeline.
Here's the story to look for and started today.
All the talk about the offense and the league.
Look what happened today.
Mm-hmm.
You know what happens?
Pendulum swung.
Everybody catches up with the gimmicks.
Mm-hmm.
The gadget plays.
The Philly specials.
The gadget plays.
All the little shovel passes and spreading them out.
Candy-ass stuff, yeah.
The offense is going to rule.
Never again will the defense be able to stop them.
Look at today.
They started to slow them down today.
So you think that the Falcons and Steelers didn't score a ton of points.
Yeah, they did.
They scored 58 points.
They scored 58 points.
Yeah, but the Chargers and Raiders didn't score a ton of points.
That's true.
That's true.
No, they didn't.
No, no, you're right.
So you think that this is just a symptom of early season.
Everyone kind of goes crazy for these points.
But then again, you can't say that the penalties haven't had something to do with more points
being scored.
Every time some team gets in a third and long and there's a pass rush, they get a rough
in the pass run.
They get a first down.
Well, it's not just that.
It's the rules in the secondary as well.
If you don't throw the ball 50 times a game, you're cheating your team.
I mean, because the rules are chained to that.
They make no sense.
It makes no sense not to throw the football.
You throw to a score and you run the win.
It's been that way for a long time.
It should always be that way.
It will continue to be that way.
But teams will start figuring out.
It's like the Chiefs.
There's now five games now in their offense.
Andy Reid is great at scheming up things and getting guys open and everything else.
Today was the first time where it didn't look the way he wanted it to work.
Why is that?
It was a good defense.
They didn't get any pressure on the home.
Much pressure on the home.
It's because they started figuring it out.
Teams figure everything out.
This league figures it out.
The defensive coaches are good.
They'll figure it out.
The scoring will go down.
It will not stay the same pace.
It will not.
Do you see the resurgence of the fullback position like I'm seeing it?
Donate it down.
That's bullshit.
You like to donate it down.
No, no.
It's not donated down.
You set a tone when you give the ball to your fullback and it gets two yards.
Donate it down.
It's donated down.
Fullback, if I needed a blocking back, I'd bring one of my linemen in.
That's what I would do in my office.
Sluggo, you're going to lead through the hole.
Other than that, I'm in one back all the time with three receivers.
I don't need a fullback.
Are we going to see more of those offset line positions like the Ravens did last week
where they put their tight end next to the center?
I love that.
I like that too.
You know what?
That was like rubbing somebody's face in.
Remember, they're the ones who complained about the Patriots a couple of years ago with the
formations.
Oh, yeah.
And the league didn't like it.
You know, it's deception.
But within the rules, you can still be deceptive.
I liked it.
I thought it was creative.
I like it too.
All right.
So you heard it here.
Fullback, using a fullback creatively, is coming back.
No, using a fullback is donating.
Don't ever hand to him.
I mean, he can lead the blocking or whatever.
Don't hand off to him.
Michael Stockwood.
Fullback, by the way.
John Lynch.
John Kuhn was number one.
So Mike Allstott was number two.
Fun fact, did you know that Mike Allstott played on the same team as Lorenzo Neal for a season
back in 1998?
Yeah, so he's not.
Come on.
Raphman was better than both of them.
Bullshit.
That's bullshit, Pete.
You're showing your age on that one.
Well, Raphman was better than both of them.
Pete, you know the average age of our listeners, like 12 years old, they don't know who Raphman
is.
Well, then they need to go do their homework then and look it up.
Yeah, they're going to go do their homework on a fullback from 30 years ago.
Well, I mean, he did a whole thing on the fullback.
Why didn't they do their homework on him?
Yeah, they should just trust me because I'm the expert and you are, you probably never
even played fullback.
No, I was a guard.
You know what?
Say this about Pete.
Five-five guard.
Yeah.
Pete would never get hit in the head by one of his quarterbacks passes.
I don't care how short the guy was.
No, I was a dirty player.
All right, guys.
I believe it.
I believe it.
All right, Pete, thank you.
Hopefully see you soon.
You don't travel anymore, though, huh?
You're afraid of plans?
No, I'm in Fort Lauderdale all the time.
All right.
We won't see you then ever again.
Yeah, see for ourselves.
No, I'll see you.
I'll see you to play off Super Bowl.
Yeah, Super Bowl.
Super Bowl.
Yeah, we'll see the Super Bowl.
We actually might get down to Jacksonville.
I'll see you trying to sneak in everything at the Super Bowl.
Yeah, that's what we do.
We're very sneaky.
I know.
I love it.
But we'll see you at the Jaguars AFC Championship game in Jacksonville.
I'm sure you'll make it up for that.
And then everyone, E-E, Blake Bortles could throw for 350 at the AFC Championship game
and get him to Super Bowl.
The people would still pick him apart.
That's true.
It's very, very sad and unfair.
It is.
Thank you, Pete.
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And now, quick interview with UFC's John Anik.
Okay, we now welcome on John Anik.
He is in the building calling the fight for UFC 229, one of the craziest nights in UFC history.
We thought it'd be appropriate to talk to you, John.
I guess let's just start with, like, have you had the moment yet where you're just in disbelief, like, what the hell happened last night?
Yeah, I'm still processing it, and I think I'm still ingesting video, right?
So, for the moment, we didn't have everything there.
You know, I'm turning and looking at Habib Narmago Madoff in the crowd, and the next thing, you know, Conor McGregor is in the fight after the fight.
So, it was just complete mayhem, and obviously not the capstone we were looking for for the biggest fight in UFC history.
But I just think when it comes to Habib Narmago Madoff and some people culturally, there's certain things you don't say and lines you don't cross.
And I think for all of us, too, if you have children, right? I mean, like, people say things about my mother, you know, it's off my back.
You say things about my kids. It's a totally different ballgame.
And Conor's narrative before the fight and everything he was saying in the lead-up to the fight obviously had an effect on Habib,
and I think he was going to retaliate verbally, if need be, physically.
And obviously he jumped the fence, and it was just total chaos.
Okay, so explain this to me because I got into a few debates last night.
I was wired. Something about a big UFC fight keeps you up all night because you just are so wired and energized from it.
I'm sure you obviously know it far better than I.
But the point I was trying to make, and you could tell me if I'm wildly wrong here,
but there is pre-fight and there's post-fight.
Pre-fight, I assume everything that is said is part of the promotion.
You're trying to sell paper views. You're trying to get eyeballs.
Habib is not exactly the most charismatic guy.
Conor McGregor is the charismatic guy who has to kind of carry the fight promotion.
And then in the fight world, once the fight is over, whether you hate the guy, whether he said vile shit,
Mike Tyson said some fucked up shit too, you shake hands and you go the other way.
Now am I totally wrong in thinking that?
No, and I think I'm starting to believe increasingly that Conor McGregor with every utterance
that it really was pre-fight stuff, right?
I feel like Conor has buried the hatchet with every single one of his opponents.
And he's gone with guys before, even Brazilian Rafael Dosanjos who he didn't fight.
But Nate Diaz, obviously they buried the hatchet and have huge amounts of respect for each other.
But Habib was pretty forthcoming and saying that there was going to be no handshake after the fight obviously.
And Dylan Danis is a guy who gets under people's skin.
And Habib, you know this thing is too, he stayed over Conor.
It seemed like Habib was ready for the fight after the fight almost immediately.
That was actually the part where I tweeted Habib as a scumbag.
People were then like, well Conor's not a scumbag.
I think Conor obviously has done some things too that are reprehensible.
And he should have thrown the stuff at the bus and all that stuff.
But I actually thought Habib going into the crowd was less of a black eye on fighting
than him standing over Conor almost wanting to fight him again and spitting on him.
That to me was like, holy shit dude, like chill out.
The guy is, you just tapped him out.
He's beaten to a pulp.
Like, you know, win with some grace here.
And you know what? See, I'm still learning.
Like I didn't even know right now as the guy who called the fight that he had spit on him.
And it's interesting too, because I have so much respect for Habib Ramagomedov.
And he's established so much goodwill with all of us.
That even an act like this, I can pardon.
You know, and I do think having had now, you know, 12 or 18 or however many hours to process it,
I don't think it is this sport altering thing, right?
I mean, I do think there's going to be some residue in the fact that we don't have live events
the next two weeks.
I mean, there's no doubt there's going to be a ripple here.
But I'm glad more shit didn't happen, man, because I think for Dana White,
you know, say what you want about the call of the fight and what Dana said after the fight
while he was still ingesting information.
You know, I've never been more proud to work for a guy or that guy than I was last night,
just the way he handled the press conference.
I mean, this is just not at all where we want it to be.
And I think we'll move past it.
Does he have a gun to your head right now?
You know, still be able to fight in this country.
Does it, it's okay. Does Dana have a gun to your head right now?
Is he making you say this?
He's right in my hotel room, you know.
But the thing is, man, is like, we're all, everybody thinks we're Conor McGregor apologists, right?
And I'm just calling it like I see it, you know, and if you really want to know,
I have a closer personal relationship with Khabib because my broadcast partner,
Dan Necormier, is his teammate, right?
So there are a lot of different layers to this.
And again, you know, before we do our podcast tomorrow, you can be sure,
I got to watch some more video and everything else.
But you know, we'll see what happens.
I hope Khabib gets his, some of it, right?
I mean, it was a $2 million person.
And as we're talking here, there's still withholding that.
So, you know, I'm just hoping cooler heads prevail at some point,
there are ramifications that are going to be felt on all sides.
Yes.
So what is that process right now?
They're just holding on to his money until he's cleared by the, by the commissioner?
Or what does that look like?
Well, the police are, I guess, getting video and trying to see everything that happened.
Obviously, when we were calling the fight, we didn't see that Conor McGregor had thrown a left hand
at somebody who had climbed over the fence.
And if he had landed that left hand, can you imagine if Conor McGregor had knocked out one of these guys,
Colt, who was coming into the octagon?
I mean, this could have been a lot worse than it was.
And maybe people think that's a crazy thesis statement after what we, what we saw last night.
But yeah, there were just a lot of, you know, UFC featherweight zoo buyer,
so who got one of Khabib's teammates?
He threw a punch at Conor.
I believe I saw Conor throw a punch at him.
So again, I mean, a lot was said last night, but I think in 24 hours,
the picture will be a lot more clear.
So who was Khabib going to attack in this, in the stands?
Was there one guy that he picked out?
It's a pro MMA player who was a jitsu coach and longtime training partner
of Conor McGregor, Dylan Danis.
And this is a big part of, I think, what he does.
And Khabib went over there through the mouth.
He was just ready to go.
And you know, and even when Dana, I can't give you your belt
because you're going to get pelted with beer bottles.
Khabib says, I'm ready for this, right?
Like, I'm fucking ready for this.
I'm ready for the beer bottles.
That's what I'd like to happen.
Give me my belt and let me have a fight with whoever in the crowd wants one.
And I think that's just an underlying theme.
Guys are very proud and culturally strong and what they believe in.
And I do have some respect for that, even though I'm disappointed that his intellect
didn't prevail and he didn't handle the situation differently.
So the craziest part to me is what we just did on this podcast and talking to you
is that the first 10 minutes is all about what happened when it should have been
Khabib absolutely dismantled Conor McGregor.
There was never in my mind a question once that fight started
that he was going to win that fight, even when Conor had a chance in the third.
He had no pop in his punch because Khabib had kind of zapped all his energy.
So the question to me is there can't be a rematch.
Can there?
Because I feel like a rematch, you have to have at least somewhat of an even fight
and I just can't see a world where Conor McGregor can beat that guy
because that guy is just one badass dude.
There's no doubt about it.
And there's some speculation that maybe McGregor didn't have the greatest training camp.
I heard otherwise. I mean, he looked to be in tremendous shape.
The weight cut went well. He looked very strong.
The only time he didn't look great, at least from my vantage point, was on fight night.
You know, when he was walking in with his wife and his son,
he just didn't seem to have that same smile of confidence, you know,
that just like John Jones smiling ear to ear when he's walking to the octagon.
You know, that was a staple of Conor's walk and that wasn't necessarily there.
So, but yeah, I think that if they met ten times,
maybe would have a great chance to win eight or nine of them.
Conor didn't really get off at all.
I mean, you can say he won parts of that third round, I guess.
But yeah, I don't know.
I think it's going to be interesting to see how long Khabib Nurmagomedov could be out.
But you know, Conor McGregor does have some culpability and all of this, I would think as well.
But Conor McGregor is such a transcendent guy.
And in terms of pay-per-view numbers and everything else,
he's on such a different level than anyone else we have
that any fight in the game that he wants, he's probably going to get.
And if that's a rematch with Khabib, I imagine we'll all pay and sit and watch it.
I've heard that the governor had a hard time getting out of the building last night.
Is that what you heard, too?
I heard she was, you know, on foot quickly to try to get out of the building.
But yeah, that was obviously not what anybody was looking for.
And that's really, I think, the big concern is the public safety element in all of this.
And I just am thankful that we had so much security guys, right?
I mean, this was like Super Bowl-style security,
and that's why it was all handled pretty well
and there didn't seem to be any major injury on any side.
Yeah, no, that's actually a good point because when Khabib went into the crowd,
there was like 25 security guards slash cops.
It was, you know, they outnumbered the civilians, so to speak, almost instantly.
And I was like, holy shit, that's actually, you know,
that was a bar stool, rough and rowdy, you know, Dave and I would have been killed.
We would have been murdered right there.
But yeah, no, that wasn't...
Well, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't thinking about you guys at the time,
to rough and rowdy and everything else.
I mean, just to be in that scene, right,
because you're so focused during this type of week, for me, far and away,
the biggest sporting event I've ever called, and the last thing you expect,
and maybe it was naive of me to not think something like this was going to materialize,
but you just don't expect to all of a sudden have a brawl like that
and then you're rushed off the air without a fight recap.
I mean, never in any paper viewer show have I experienced what I experienced.
What do you think was the wilder aftermath from a fight last night?
Was it the brawl or was it when Derek Lewis talked to Joe Rogan about how hot his balls were?
Isn't that amazing?
You know, I mean, can we get Derek Lewis on part of my take?
I mean, can we get that going, please?
You are a connection.
Yes, please.
So please, you get on that.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll make that happen.
We got to get you guys in touch with the Black Beasts.
No, he is the best.
And that's probably the greatest post-flight interview I've seen in UFC history,
just maximizing that microphone.
And he is who he is, man.
You know, he's been Texas is so behind that guy.
I think he could sell out the arena where the Rockets play.
And, you know, it's crazy to think on paper, he's won nine of his last 10
and that he now might be in position to fight for the heavyweight title.
You know, the cardio is going to be what it's going to be,
but nobody wants to get hit by one of those lunchboxes.
And man, gold cop though, I got to say, you know, all he had to do was get on a bicycle to win that fight.
He just, what are you going to do?
That was the best part about that fight because the Black Beast,
he's almost unapologetic about being in terrible shape where like after the first round,
he barely can breathe.
And it's like, well, I'm just here.
I can't breathe.
I'm not in great cardio.
But if one of these, one of these hands lands, you're in trouble.
And I love that strategy.
It's a fighting.
It's like a heavyweight boxing match.
And I don't know how much heart you guys had in your athletic careers.
I think PFT strikes me as a big heart guy.
I didn't have a lot of heart.
Or I didn't have a lot of heart or mental toughness as an athlete.
And one thing, heart and cardio are huge in MMA.
And there's no denying Derek Lewis has the will to stay in these fights.
And with a broken orbital like last night, he was able to stay in it.
Yeah, that was crazy.
So you said that like Conor McGregor, whatever fight he wants, he fucking gets.
But if he wants a rematch, do you think that there's a chance to be just says,
no, fuck that.
I don't want to fight you again.
I'd rather retire.
Well, I will say there's not going to be an immediate rematch because of a lot
of different factors.
Who knows what's going to happen with Khabib, but Tony Ferguson is absolutely
impossible to deny right now.
11 straight wins at 155 pounds.
His next fight has to be for the undisputed UFC lightweight championship.
And I can't say that any louder.
So I think though that at some point in time, Conor could be rematch is going to
have some legs, but I don't think it'll be any time soon.
And for Conor, I mean, what do you want?
You want to extend Pierre?
What's up a division for a super fight?
There are just so many different possibilities for him.
And I just hope he stays on an active schedule because it was really fun to
have him back in whatever form.
Yeah.
And that's a good point about Ferguson because that was the other fight that
got kind of overshadowed by everything.
He was fantastic.
And he, I mean, he looked in trouble a billion times and he did the same thing
where he was just like, all right, and now I'm going to win this fight.
So my last question to you though is for Conor and I think you brought up a
good point and I want to make it as well that I'm not a Conor McGregor
Apologies.
I think people thought I was.
I'm just a, there's fight promo.
And then after the fight, you walk away and, and you know, everything kind of
is like, well, what was said was said, but we were trying to sell paper views
and they sold a lot of paper views.
Now with that said, do you think in the future that Dana will have to reign
Conor in a little so that it doesn't get to this personal level where guys
are maybe taking it more than just fight promo and not understand like even
Habib's apology.
He said something like, this isn't a shit talking game.
This is a respect game.
It's like, ah, dude, it kind of is a shit talking game.
Like that's kind of part of boxing.
That's kind of part of MMA.
Like you need to sell fights.
So do you think there will be any reigning in of Conor?
Do you think this is just, you know, isolated incident that you got to deal
with and going forward to just keep, keep racking in the money with Conor being
electric?
It's a great question and talking point because at this point in time, five
years in the Conor McGregor's career in the UFC, the extent to which he's
established himself just doesn't feel like the time to reign him in.
And I just don't know that you're going to be able to reign him in.
I think that he didn't like what happened last night either.
And I think he's sort of sick of having to go through all of this legal stuff.
And if anything comes his way out of this, you know, I don't think that's
going to be pleasant for him, but I just don't know how you reign him in.
And the thing too is that he's not scripted necessarily.
He's just well researched, right?
He gets on a podium and he has all this information in his head and he just
delivers it in a way that just is cutting and conniving and everything else.
So I just think it's something that's so, so special about him and to take it away.
I just don't know.
I know a lot of pro mixed martial artists feel like that absolutely has to
happen.
And I just think it's pretty ambitious to think that that's going to be the path.
All right, my last question.
You were in Vegas the whole weekend.
Which, which group of supporters were you most intimidated by?
The Irish or the Russians?
Definitely the Russians, right?
Khabib's army is strong.
No doubt about it.
I was surprised that they couldn't really be heard from in the arena.
But you do not want to be anywhere near those guys for sure.
I mean, the Irish men and women are very friendly and I think, you know,
they're recognized as more certainly than the Russians do.
So no, you steer clear of those Russians, but I do have a lot of respect for
how they all stick together.
And they really, they don't care if they go to jail.
They don't, they don't think about ramifications.
They think about revenge and retaliation if there's something serious enough.
And that's just going to be what it's going to be.
So crazy night, man.
And I appreciate the chance to chop it up with you about it.
Yeah, follow up.
Do you think that you're going to see more kids wrestling bears in preparation
for MMA career?
I mean, who's going to be the next kid to wrestle a bear?
Somebody's got to be the next to do it on video.
I mean, I'm surprised somebody hasn't tried to repeat the feet yet.
Right.
I wouldn't be shocked if like Brock Lesnar had a whole like farm of bears
at his Montana ranch or whatever that he just trains on.
Yeah.
Absolutely incredible.
All right, John.
Thank you so much.
Can you tell everyone where they can listen to your recap tomorrow?
You got it for your podcast?
Well, I appreciate that.
It's the Anakin, Florian podcast and I'm going to text you the black beast number
and I said you hear him on part of my take within 15 days.
That's awesome.
Thank you, John.
Everyone listen to it because I'm sure you're going to go into depth
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I mean, I could listen.
I could talk about listen to this Saturday night to UFC 229 forever.
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Okay, let's get to some segments.
First up, we have a take quick and whole boy.
This is the only time that I truly like,
you know when we get stuck in between episodes
and you're like, fuck, I really wish we could talk about this.
This is one of those times.
Yeah, on Saturday.
On Saturday.
Nail down the dog because this is a hot one.
Peter Gammons with an all time take quick.
You ready?
I'm ready.
Okay, here's what he said.
In the eighth inning of what may be a do or die game with the tension of a game seven,
Neanderthal Fenway Park fans chanting Yankees suck are eerily like those who chant,
lock her up a political rally designed to demean female assault victims trauma.
End tweets.
Let's set the stage here a little bit, give some color to it.
He didn't actually say suck.
He bleeped out.
Correct.
It was S star.
No, not even an S.
It was a parentheses with a dash, a dash, a dash and a dash.
Okay.
But it was Yankees suck was the word he was going after.
We can only assume.
We might have to bleep that out.
We don't know.
He also, before we get into the take quick, 162 166 retweets.
Guess how many replies 2000 3.6,000 replies.
Yeah, that is the greatest ratio of all time.
That's pretty bad.
I don't.
So I guess I don't really know where to start.
Yankees suck has been going on forever and like, oh, I guess Peter Gammons point here
is there's tribalism in sports.
Oh, you think?
Yeah.
Have you ever been on Twitter dude?
He ever said anything bad about anyone's team?
Do you see what happens?
Like people go down your throat.
That's why we root for our teams.
It's why we get passionate.
That's why we go crazy.
Yeah.
But then to tie in, uh, locker up chance and feminism.
I, I'm just lost.
So I'm tapping out.
So I'm tagging you in.
Okay.
So, so the connections that were made in Peter's brain were he heard Yankees suck and he
heard a lot of people screaming it and he was like, the, that the syllables line up to
the locker up chant and it kind of rhymes.
Yeah.
So I'm going to jump there and then I'm going to jump from there to that's where he kind
of loses me is like going from locker up to demeaning sexual assault victims.
I'm not, I'm, I'm trying to put it together in my head.
Tapping Hank.
All Hank, go.
I mean, it is the same beat.
Like it sounds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where have I, where have I heard this song before?
No, you're right.
It's like, it's like Peter Gammons listened to under pressure and he's like, this song,
this song reminds me of Queen and David Bowie.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's okay.
Yeah.
It's got the same people that yell locker up are generally the same people that Ruford
sports.
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
No, no, I think Hank was saying are generally the people that like, at least in the news
this week have been like on Kavanaugh side and that whole thing.
Okay.
I don't know where Peter's mind was going, but what, what did we say was hot in the streets
last week?
That ain't it chief.
Yeah.
My, my stardom.
Okay.
He's just, he was just like doing a grab.
He was playing hashtag hyphy.
Yeah.
He's like, let me just grab.
Okay.
So the ALDS going, okay.
This Yankees right now.
Okay.
And what's going on over here?
Okay.
Feminism and locker up.
Okay.
That's cool.
And then we'll just throw this here and then maybe, maybe a swear word that's not, that
you guys can figure out yourself and boom.
Tweak it's me.
I love.
It was a weird case of Mad Libs.
Okay.
Here's what I, this is why I love this tweet.
Peter Gammons is the perfect person to tweet this because if anyone else tweets it, they
then either delete it or they fight back.
He did the old, when you get to a certain age, you just do the tweet and walk away.
He did a full on tweet and walk away.
Like he, I don't even know if he knows how to look at his mentions.
No, he might as well have just like tweeted out and then dropped his phone into a trash
right.
He has no idea what happened after that.
And I love that because that means we can get a follow up.
Yeah.
You know what I don't like?
You know, in Yankee stadium, they, they boo, have you heard that?
Yep.
They say boo.
Disrespectful to people like Ron Artest, who have been sexually assaulted by ghosts.
Boo.
And also Bobby Brown.
Yeah.
Also Bobby Brown.
Fucked by ghosts.
Yeah.
People forget that.
That's actually happened.
I think the ghost made him come though.
So.
Well, good.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
I guess that's better than like 90% of dudes.
Yeah.
Ghosts, ghost sex is a real thing.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Peter has had tweets that he's like butt dialed that have made more sense than this.
Yes.
Absolutely.
He does that on the regular.
Yeah.
A lot of, a lot of butt dial tweets.
Okay.
Next up we have embraced debate.
Is Darren Ravel an athlete?
I'll set the stage.
Are you serious?
Ravel ran the Chicago marathon.
I don't know if anyone heard.
He only tweeted about it and talked about it nonstop for the last like five months.
He ran it in 425, which it's good, I guess.
Yeah.
He did not win.
He did not win.
He did not win the marathon.
If you're going to do it for the engagement, at least shave your time down to four hours
and 20 seconds.
Exactly.
Yeah.
He looked like a bum running the marathon.
He had like clothes just draped in weird places.
He had a headband.
He had like these knee-legging things.
I've never seen a man with skinnier legs than Darren Ravel.
And then he's, he put up an Instagram story or Instagram picture where he.
He looked like he had two prosthetic legs.
He did.
He did.
He looked like, yes.
So you know what?
Actually, he might be an athlete because he did.
He ran with two prosthetic legs.
He invoked Roger Bannister, the first man to ever run a four minute mile in his like
Instagram acceptance speech to, I don't know what you call that, for winning the Darren
Ravel marathon challenge.
For winning the, yeah, I did it.
Yeah.
I actually, I did it, Rod.
I actually think he's an athlete now.
Okay.
I say it because did you see his, his iPhone, that thing was huge on his, on his arm.
He ran with a huge iPhone on his arm and he was Instagram story the whole time.
So credit to him.
Yeah.
I don't know.
He also got really salty on Twitter for, for saying that he got beat by someone else.
Well, he did.
He got beat by like, like 15,000 people.
Listen, and Darren's going to come back and say, well, open challenge to you.
If you ever want to run a marathon.
Oh, I'm going to run that mile.
And you know what?
I don't think I'll ever reach a point in my life where running a marathon is like a
goal that I want to have.
No.
Absolutely not.
It's like, Hey, do you want to go be bored for five hours?
Listen, if you run an athlete's compete.
Yeah.
Listen, I do a marathon every single Sunday.
Okay.
I sit on my couch and I watch seven hours of football and my cable box pops up with that
little notification that says, are you, are you still alive?
Do you want to, do you want to keep watching football and my, my, my Fitbit beeps and is
like, Hey, you've had 10 steps in the last hour.
You're only 280,000 away from your goal.
Right.
Do you want me to notify the ambulance?
Yes.
Are you okay?
Yeah.
That is always depressing when the Fitbit does that.
Yes.
It happens a lot.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Dude.
I watched a lot more football than you.
Listen, I agree with you.
I don't think I'll ever be, I, people are going to laugh at me because I'm like, I'm
not running a marathon by choice.
I, it is my choice.
Like I don't want to run a marathon.
I could, you know, that's okay.
It's okay.
I will beat him in a mile though.
He said anywhere, anytime.
So I'm just going to let my back heal up next like four or five months, get my core strong.
I'm going to show up at his house and just feel like, let's go.
Shout out recurring guest, Desi Linden.
Tell me if Darren's time, if I should be impressed by it or not.
Yeah.
She could run two marathons before Darren.
Yeah.
Probably way more than that.
Uh, we have a, what's the beef Hank?
What's the beef?
Uh, Marcus Smart and JR Smith almost got in a fist fight and first in the last preseason
game of the year.
So what the hell happened?
Cause that would be such a funny fight.
Oh, it was, they were ready to go.
Marcus Smart was ready to go.
I don't think JR Smith and Aaron Baines got tangled up, which is just like classic going
for rebound.
They got tangled up.
And then Marcus Smart literally just came running in full speed, like fists ready to
go.
Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown holding him back, like fully holding him back, like not like
holding me back, holding me back, holding me back.
Like Marcus Smart was trying to break through, trying to throw punches at JR Smith.
Two questions.
One is Jason Tatum still 19.
Yes.
How much longer?
Is he an old 19?
I don't know.
He's an old 19.
Wow.
At least six months.
Mbappe is still 19 as well.
I don't know if you guys.
He was a young 19.
Four goals.
13 minutes.
Mbappe.
Mbappe.
Still 19.
It's been a spin zone of why he decided to punt the ball as opposed to go for it in fourth
and one.
You ready for this?
It was a long yard.
It was.
So it was.
It's true.
Almost fourth and two.
Yeah.
That's true.
Other breaking news.
Jason Tatum is 20.
Oh.
Not that impressive then.
Fuck.
That ruins everything.
Get this JR.
I think this sounds real trouble now.
My second question is, does Marcus Smart know that LeBron James isn't on the calves anymore?
I think that probably plays a part in like he was now he's trying to take out all his
anger.
Right.
But like the calves are irrelevant except for Sam Decker who's going to have an awesome
year and probably be an all star.
The calves are irrelevant.
That doesn't matter for Marcus.
Okay.
Okay.
Marcus Smart doesn't.
Marcus forgets.
Yeah.
Never forgets.
But it's kind of a pussy.
Don't say the P word.
Oh.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
I'm not going to say to his face.
Well.
He was voted second tough player in the entire league.
I'm going to ask you guys, instead of making a declarative statement that, you know, writing
it a check my ass can't cash, I'm going to ask you guys a question and you can answer.
Okay.
Would you say that it's kind of a coward move to fight the team that you had a rivalry with
after the alpha moves on?
No.
I think that's okay.
Okay.
That doesn't even occur to Marcus.
No.
But Marcus.
No.
Marcus was not defending Libran.
He was always like, that's a math.
They were matched up together.
It was still that beef.
Remains.
Would he do that if Libran was still there?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
That's the only question I'm asking.
I was asking the question.
The guy wasn't a fan of Khabib fighting.
No.
No.
I'm asking a question.
No.
I said, I said I wasn't a fan of Khabib fighting.
I said, he wasn't a fan of Simspitting on.
This, this actually matches up perfectly to that fight.
Like in this circumstance, Habib is Marcus Smart and Conor McGregor's J.R.
Smith but you see, you see the point of masking.
Don't you think it's a little fair to ask like daddy's gone? No, because Marcus smart is such a psycho that doesn't even register
Okay, he just he sees a color. He sees that like burgundy or maroon or whatever the fuck the the calves called their
Primary color and he sees that and he's like that is a color that is violent
I just don't know if you fight a team when LeBron's on the other side. I don't know. I don't know
That's quite I just asked a question. I didn't make a declarative statement. I asked a question
I want to get upset I asked a question. All right, we all know like Marcus smart. You love him
He's gonna shoot like two for 20 for three, but that's fine. He'll fight someone. He will he'll fight everybody
That would be such a funny. I do. I mean, he's all energy. I you he's a guy you'd love to have on your team
I I could see J. R. Smith getting into a fight on like a hoverboard like trying to drive by punch somebody on like one of
Those little like motorized skateboards. Yeah, and then end up hurting himself hurting himself and Marcus smart retaliating by
Murdering J. R. Smith's entire family. Yeah tit for tit. Yeah, totally now. We're even alright last up
We have King State Kings. This is for Ryan Lochte. So Ryan Lochte
was involved in a car accident in Gainesville, Florida the same day that he was involved in a
Police had to show up to a hotel because he was drunk only trying to kick the door down a leg to tell them allegedly
the only problem is the hotel thing happened in California and
The car accident happened in Gainesville, Florida all in the same day get you man
They can do both King State Kings. That is so fucking impressive. Yeah
So Ryan Lochte in the past like three years has been in hot water in Brazil
California and Florida so like basically anywhere where you can wear a swimsuit as your actual outfit
Yes, Ryan Lochte is no longer loud think about how crazy that is though because you get the cops called on you at 345 in
The morning in California
I'm doing times on math. So that's 345 a.m. Okay, so that's 745. Yeah East Coast time 645 645 East Coast time
But then like if you get the cops called on you
Usually people like, you know, I'm gonna chill out for a minute
He then got on a flight went to Gainesville got a car crash. Mm-hmm. Was he help was he driving the car?
I think he was driving the car. Yes
He locked he was driving his Porsche to his home when he realized he was about to hit the car in front of him and slammed
That was break the last minute snow veil. He was a million percent watching like a snapchat show. Yeah, for sure
He's trying to figure out what where vine went. Yeah, what the fuck? Why isn't my vine loading? All right? That's our show
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