Pardon My Take - NHL Playoffs With Paul Bissonnette, Chris Berman, Thunder Take Game 1, Jordon Is Engaged To Be Married, RG3 vs Ryan Clark + FAQ's

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

The Thunder take Game 1 and it was a tough watch with SGA fouls (00:00:00-00:15:15). Panthers are a wagon and Hank got duped bad by AI (00:15:15-00:27:25). Jordon claims to be engaged to be married to Bill Belichick and Hank is going to the wedding (00:27:25-00:37:59). Ryan Clark vs RG3 got very personal in a feud over a basketball foul (00:37:59-00:55:19). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Suns being the Suns again, NFL rule changes and more (00:55:19--01:20:47). Paul Bissonnette joins the show to talk Stanley Cup playoffs, the Leafs losing and where do they go from here, who's going to win the Cup, glass banger is back and his time with Oldie (01:20:47-01:59:28). Chris Berman joins the show to talk about his new contract with ESPN which will get him to 50 years at the company, golf, Scottie Scheffler, and some NFL talk to get us fired up for the fall (01:59:28-02:44:07). We finish with listener submitted FAQ's (02:44:07-02:58:27).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music on today's part of my take. We've got a two for for the people were talking hockey with our guy. in game seven, previewing the conference finals. We're going to talk some Panthers who look real good. We also have our good friend, Chris Berman, the Schwamm on the show to check in with him because he just signed his new deal at ESPN and he's going to be there for 50 years. So we're, we're, we talked to him. We talk a little football with him, golf, great catching up with him. We're going to talk about the conference finals in both hockey and basketball on Tuesday night. Uh, then when we get back into studio, we might have an engagement.

Jordan has maybe said that she's engaged to bill Belichick. We get Hank's thoughts on that. We talk about some beefs in the media world, Ryan Clark verse RG three all because of a foul hot seat. Cool throne FAQs great show coming your way and it's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The best time of year for Hoops fans playoff drama buzzer beaters all the chaos we live for and if you're done just watching and ready to

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I agree with a lot of what you're about to say, but let me just say this first. Oklahoma city's defense is very fucking good. They're elite. They pack the paint so well. They make you take threes. They close out on those threes. The Wolves could not hit a three to save their life. I don't know if the Wolves strategy of having their bench shoot 28 threes and hit like three of them is sustainable. Actually, I know it's not sustainable, but that is a lot of credit to the Oklahoma City Thunder defense. Their defense is so goddamn good and Chet Holmgren, I feel like is going up another level. The way he was playing

in the fourth quarter quarter how he impacts everything He is so good. Their team is so good. Their defense is so good. I don't they don't have a weak link on defense and Yes, GA the floor is yours PFT Okay, so You're right credit to the Thunder. I think the Thunder are a good team. I think SGA is a phenomenal basketball player. I think he's an awesome basketball player. But he doesn't have to do this shit.

He doesn't have to do it. It pisses me off watching him play piss me off when they show the replays. I have to watch the foul baiting like three times in a row where I have to see the same non foul three times. You force the opposing coaches decide like do I want to use a challenge right now on this or do I want to wait until same non foul three times. You force the opposing coach to decide like, do I want to use a challenge right now on this? Or do I want to wait until later on in the game? Yeah, they would have won the game no matter what.

They were the much better team tonight, but it pissed me off. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. And I don't feel like being silent because it pisses me off watching SGA play. And Doris Burke is compromised too. She was like complimenting the foul baiting that he was doing. He just, he leans into people at the last minute

and then falls down and to his credit, he's very good at hitting these off balance shots as he's flopping. He practices those and he's very good at it. And so you have to like take your hat off and be like, that was a really good shot that you made when your body was like completely parallel to the floor as you were falling down because you didn't get touched. That one he made on the baseline in the fourth quarter where he was literally on the floor. And he got, he did get fouled on that.

No, it's similar to the start of the playoffs when I said the same thing about Jalen Brunson. SGA is probably worse than Jalen Brunson. But it's there such good basketball players and it's so annoying to have to watch that style of basketball. And I feel like Jalen Brunson actually has kind of like not done it as much in the and he's been so clutch and in such

tight games, but SGA is is is the number one. He's taking the mantle from James Harden. He's the number one foul baiter and he's so good. And but it's, it's, it's partially rules. Like it's gotta, something's gotta change because I, and maybe this will be, if they win the title, which I think they will, cause I think they're the best team, maybe something changed because it is not fun to watch when he is doing the foul baiting thing. And he is such a good player. He's about to win MVP and deservedly so, but it's still you can, you can say those two things at the same time. You can say SGA is

an incredible, incredible basketball player. I don't enjoy watching it. Yeah. And if you're a thunder fan, you have to defend your guy. I get it. You're going to hate what I have to say about SGA. Like I'm attacking your guy. So yeah, I'll be the bad guy in this situation, but also everybody else thinks that it sucks to watch him. Everybody else that watches it, it's very tough to get through, again, the foul, where you're like, wait, what did they just call? And then two replays from different angles that you watch

and you get progressively angrier as they keep showing these replays. I don't know what they can do. Maybe it's like in hockey where, yeah, you have, you've got penalties, you've got whistles, but in the playoffs you lose those whistles a little bit. Yeah. Well, you know what it's, you know what the shittiest part is? It's, it's, it's kind of, it's very similar to like the jail and Brunson where we, when it, when it happens in a bad way, it takes away from how incredible jail and bunch Brunson is, how clutch he is. When SGA does this, it takes away from how incredible Jalen Brunson is, how clutch

he is. When SGA does this, it takes away from how great the thunder are as a team, just because it's aesthetically not a fun watch. And like that second half, the thunder just suffocated the wolves. The wolves were just were terrible. I don't think they had a single transition point the entire game that, like I said, they basically were like, go ahead, shoot these threes and they'll probably make some threes. They'll have a game where they make some threes. So there'll be at least a little drama in the series, but I don't know the thunders defense. There just is no hole. And I do not know how you like, it's a nightmare series for ant it's it's going to, I mean, Julius Randall got hot for a little

bit there in the first half. We're like, okay, maybe you can carry him. I think if you took away Julius Randall's threes, I was looking at it. I think if you took away his three pointers, the rest of the team went 10 for 45. That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. And it's, again, it's by design. They don't let you score 20 points in the paint was the lowest amount of points in the pain for the timber rolls this year. The timber rolls have to get out and transition. They have to get in the paint was the lowest amount of points in the paint for the Timberwolves this year. The Timberwolves have to get out in transition. They have to get in the paint. They have to let Ant go downhill and the Thunder just do not allow that because their defense is so goddamn good. Yeah, there was

absolutely no cutting to the basket. So they didn't even get the opportunity because the defense was so good. They didn't even get the opportunity to get a lot of those fouls in the end ones that that Oklahoma City was getting. There were virtually no fast break points for the Timberwolves tonight either. It was yeah, it was a dominant performance by the Thunder for sure. And also, yes, Julius Randall, great the first half. I think I think the Wolves are still going to get a couple of games out of this

because he he went down the first half, sprained his ankle again, came back. Very, very tough performance on his part to come back and still have some of the explosiveness that he normally does. If he gets healthy in the series, I think it'll be competitive. It's not going to be as lopsided as it was tonight, but as of tonight, the Thunder clearly... I mean, we spent several years being like, I wish teams would stop just taking threes and dunking and then the Thunder do it. And we're like, no, not like this. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to overreact to one game, but this was the game that it felt like the Wolves would have had their best leg up because you had the Thunder playing in a game seven two days ago. They came out a little slow, like the Wolves kind of jumped on them.

But that second half, it was maybe it was the kisses that SGA got from his kid at halftime. You see that they also I think everyone should just we're going to be the first to report it. Breaking Moves is Hank here. He was breaking Moves breaking Moves SGA. Go ahead, Hank. breaking moves SGA. Go ahead, Hank. SGA is cousins with the keel. Alexander Walker. I don't know about that. I don't know if you heard that. I don't know if

you heard that. Here's the other thing. Pft. So they brought that up a million times. It was the Kershaw Stafford thing. I have a take on the, uh, cause I agree with everything you said about SGA and it's again, it's just the, the extreme foul baiting is just not fun basketball to watch. That's just what it comes down to and everyone knows it when they see it and it goes game to game. It can be one game on one game off, but when it happens, it sucks. Here's what also I was thinking about it because I don't know if you noticed like it didn't feel like the thunder crowd

had a lot of juice, but I think they did. I think the ESPN just turns down their mics so much that they do them disservice because you could see moments when it was like popping and you're like, Oh, that they are loud. This is a loud crowd. So I'm not going to, I think, I think, okay, see was loud. I think the ES crowd. So I'm not going to, I think, I think okay. See was loud. I think the ESPN for some reason they do this with hockey too, where they turn down the crowds. Like I want to hear the crowd. I also, uh, the, the booth, the Richard Jefferson Doris Burke, there's not a lot of aura. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I'm smashing it. Don't we like RJ? Uh, I like Doris Burke as a team. It just doesn't feel big game ish. It just, I don't know. It's like, but let

Mike Breen just do it himself. It just didn't feel something was off and it was like all the pieces, the crowd being low SGA foul baiting that booth just didn't, it didn't feel what I needed to feel for Western Conference final game one. Yeah. And like I agree. I've watched maybe I think five or six Thunder games in the regular season before the playoffs started. And I for some reason, I don't have a problem with SGA when he does this in the regular season. It's fine. But in the playoffs, it's like, come on, man. This really pissed me off. It's James Harden used to do it. I mean, there's a lot of guys have done this. This is in a lot of guys get criticized for it. It just is what it is. Like guys have that in

their game where they just, they go to the hoop and they try to get their, their initial, they're not trying to score as much as they're trying to get contact. Yep. Did you see that ESPN did a horoscope reading of the NBA playoffs? No, this is real deep stuff. Real deep stuff. So they predicted the Pacers and the Thunder based on everybody's horoscope signs going on. Oh, yeah. So I might have missed that because I want to shout out our guy because so maybe I'll give the main booth a chance again, but I'm going to recommend it. And this is yeah, this is partially biased because he is our guy, but Legler and Goldsberry were on ESPN to watch the second half on that great watch. Great. Yeah, I would check that out. You're right. There were there were several times in the

broadcast night where I was just, I wanted, pretend like this game was closer than it was. And a good an offering booth will do that. They'll bring some like, no, they'll make it a big moment even when it might not be this one. It felt like it was a, yeah, I was watching the circus. And it's, it's, I mean, it happens all the time in, in announcing boosts. It's like, you can tell when they're not, they don't have a ton of chemistry rapport years of rapport together. The, the Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson booths as I know we made fun of it, but like they, they genuinely made each other laugh and they genuinely like to be around each other. I feel like this is more, they're just going and punching a clock. So whatever, maybe they'll get better. But it was a weird, it was a weird clunky

game. And then it was also a game where the thunder, it looked like it was going to be a tight game. And then the thunder were just so much better in the second half than the timber wolves. And it was, it was easy. Like it was just the, once they, the thunder have done this, I don't know how many times there's, I think it's probably half of their playoff games. It feels like they've been able to empty their bench at the end of the game, like in a playoff game, and it's because they're so good.

And when they hit that turbo button and their defense feeds into their offense and they get multiple stops in a row on the defensive side, because this game was close, and then it just wasn't you blinked. And it wasn't. It was like, oh, yep, this game's over. They're going to cover and they're going to win by a lot. Yeah, I actually do think that the wolves are going

to win two, maybe three games. I think that that's possible. I know it doesn't feel like it after what we just watched tonight, but I mean crazy shit happens in the playoffs. I think one game it was dominant. The Thunder defense was really really good. Like when we watched game one of the Thunder and the Nuggets in the last series, we were like, oh shit, the Thunder are in real deep trouble here because they're not going to be able to do anything on the inside against the... Things happen over the course of a seven game series.

So it'll even out a little bit, I think. But I think they need to get they need to get Ant healthy. That's going to be that would be a problem if his ankle lingered on for a little bit. Max, what's the what's the injury prognosis? I think you probably have the exact same ankle injury that and has, uh, you know, it's one day one day of a tough walk and then you know, you're fine. You're fine. Tape it up. They probably got better painkillers than me. He'll be fine. Yeah, you're I

mean, you're fine. Speaking of games that there are series that are not going to change. I the Panthers are so good. They're so good. And we're going to talk to biz about all hockey but they're so good. And this I don't think because it's similar like the Panthers go from a game seven. They go from Toronto to Carolina. This is where you can get them. And it wasn't even, it wasn't a doubt. Like the, what was the final score? I, I, I turned it off. Uh, yeah, it was five one and the, and the, or five two and, and the goal, the first goal that Carolina scored was the kick that he kicked it in. He did like a back kick. This just reminds me this is remember this is from

last year. The series when their coach said after getting swept by the Panthers, I believe it was last year, right? Memes. I think they swept them last year. I'm gonna look it up. It's hanging here. I'm looking at a stat that matters here. Big Cat. If you want to talk about shots on goal, if you're a Carolina Hurricanes fan, the Carolina Hurricanes had 33 shots on goal and the Florida Panthers had 20 shots on goal. Oh, you guys won the shots on

goal. Yeah, shots on goal is huge. Mass shots on goal. Oh, you guys won the shots on goal. Yeah, shots on goal is huge. Massive goals. Huge here. Phil Buster real quick. Hank, are you here? How you doing, Hank? Yeah, I've been here the whole time. What's up, boys? What did you think about? What did you think about the Thunder game? They took over. They dominated a good second half. I was doing a stream for a majority of it, but what do you think about SGA? Validating not fun to watch unethical. Yeah. Where? What is this? Where? Where are you going with it? Was it cat? It was I'm not going anywhere. It was two years ago somewhere. Panthers swept the hurricanes.

Remember and their coach said, uh, that's the important unfortunate part of this. People are going to look back and everyone's going to say you got swept. That's not what happened. I watched the game. I'm there. I'm cutting the game. We're in the game. It could have been four games the other way. They did get swept, but that wasn't what happened. But it feels like this might be the same thing where her kids are going to be like, we, I swear we didn't get swept. Did you see what happened at the, uh, I think it was like 10 minutes into the third period where got to spirit, took that shot from like the opposite end of the ice and tried to hit a Marshawn with it.

Yeah. Cause he got in a Marshawn got in a fight. Uh, they got a little brouhaha. Yeah. At least we've got some entry. Now we we got some real bad blood between the teams. Yeah, the Panthers bring the bad blood out of anyone. That's just what they do. They're dirty, but like in the that's a compliment when I say it about the Panthers, they're like they're a big bunch of assholes. That's how yeah, that's how that's how hot playoff hockey should be. Absolutely. Hank. Yes.

So we're going to kick it back to ourselves in the studio. We're going to talk some Jordan and some Bill Belichick. Oh, do we want to do predictions for the next Pacers? Do we already do them? We did. We did. I think I just said game seven. I'd like to change my pick, though, before it starts.

I can do that, right? Yeah. I think I said Pacers and seven. I'm going to say Nixon seven now. Oh. Because I just found out that the Pacers are changing their uniforms. They're getting off the city connects.

That was NBA league mandate. Yeah. So the NBA said you can't do that. You have to go to your core colors. So we've been demanding that they get off the city connect jerseys, but now that they actually did it, I'm like, wait, they, they won a lot of playoff games wearing those alternate uniforms. Yeah. But

again, I feel like it's different that the NBA mandated it versus the Pacers doing it in free will. So they're gonna be upset that they're not playing in the City Connect. Right. There's nothing they can do. They hate their hands are tied. The the NBA correct move by the NBA to be like you have to wear the real jerseys. Yeah. All right. Before we kick it ourselves Hank you great stream tonight. Thank you. You're why are you nervous? Because you called me and we're like I have a question. I was like what is it like? I can't tell you.

Yeah, so I've been thinking about what the question could be for 20 minutes okay but why didn't why didn't I just I could have just asked you on the well yeah no hand up I told you I we decided to do this stream which we had to break Scotty Scheffler's Sunday round and however many times it took us to do it was how long the stream was gonna go so I was planning on just being on a stream till 4am. So I assumed, you know, I was not going to be able to make the first 10 minutes of the show. We finished early.

Everyone was so happy like we're going to get dinner. I was like, I'm in. I literally until you texted like we were sitting down for dinner and you're like, send the draftings out. I was like, oh, no, I forgot it's Tuesday. Oh, no, I do part of my take., no, but like you know what I'm saying like I like in 90 like we we we were dialed we had some clutch clutch shots to beat minus we were minus two or minus one, but I If the stream was still going I obviously was not gonna be on this part of the show Right. Mm-hmm. If anybody out there is Hank, cares more about golf than about the podcast.

I don't want to do the fucking. Oh my God, this is great. I think honest mistake. Honest mistake. Honestly, but you're here now. So it doesn't matter. All's good. Yeah, I was here the whole time. Yeah, you were here the whole time. Um, Hank, here's my question. And maybe we can put in the video. Could you think we could put this video into the YouTube? Do you think we put this video in the YouTube? No. So for the listeners, go watch the video, go watch the YouTube. See what I'm talking about for the listeners, though. This is a question. Hank posted a video on Instagram.

Well, let's talk about like, let's talk about my history, though. Okay. Okay. Let me explain it. Hank has a history. He loves to post whale videos. Well, it was, I think it goes back to a Mount Rushmore. Yes. Slow mo videos in the world. Yeah. So every time there's a whale breaching water, Hank is posting it. I look at it. Hank's Instagram stories tonight. Uh, Hank has posted a video of whales on boats being cleaned by like tractor vacuums. They're driving the tractor over the back of the whale. You're cleaning off the particles. It's a, it's the fakest video I think I've ever seen in my entire life. And I really do think Hank posted it thinking it was real. Did you see my next story? Hank, did you post it thinking

it was real? Did you see my next story? I didn't. Did you post it thinking it was real? No, you want me to play? I'll play. I'll play what I posted because a lot of people were confused, but I cleared it up. Okay. So can you be honest though? Be honest with the listeners. That was it. That was enough. If the video is posted, it's like a beautiful, thinking about whales that have barnacles stuck on their backs and they're just floating through the ocean, stuck with these barnacles, and then there's this group of people who get the whales onto a boat somehow and then power wash them to clear the barnacles off. That's not power wash. Free them.

I actually was going to send a TPFT. That's what I thought at first but it was I felt so good happy for the whales. Yeah. Yes. At first glance I'm not joking because we were doing the stream I opened my phone and like I got scared because I had like 10 DMs from people like people I know like you know when you see that number like when you see it's usually like one or two or whatever it was like 11 new

messages from people being like, you fucking idiot. I mean, they were tractors. I'm, they were full on tractors on top of whales, power washing them. They were driving. There was a guy like sitting in a driver's seat, driving the tractor up and down the back, the spine of the whale as well as just sitting there not moving. Like, thank you. Like the whale as the wheels just sitting there not moving like thank you like the whale Knows that he's getting power washed. They were making noises. They made noises like Yeah, I

Grew thank though if can you imagine how cool that video would have been if it was real? Oh very cool But I just this is Everyone's talking about AI this AI that new new evolution AI. It's going to be a problem. It's going to be a problem for the Hanks in the world. He's the one who's going to be spreading this and we like. But like who's this? I didn't say it wasn't AI. I didn't say anything.

No, but you and you shared a cool video. You just said right now that you thought it was real. Again, this is like trust tree. I posted on my story. I was like, just for the follow up, like, obviously it was AI, but like I just, I share cool whale videos and this was fell into that category. Maybe it's not real now. Maybe it helps start like the, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm

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like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, like, I'm like, We have the technology now. Let's start cleaning whales with tractors. I love it. I love it. I like it's good AI, man. It's not that good. It's not good at all. But I also didn't hear the whales saying thank you. I didn't hear how accurate the whale sounds were.

The whales. Yeah. Power washing. Have you guys seen the other one that almost got me that I had the deer. Also, the particles wouldn't spray. It depends on the power washer. Oh my God. All right. That was all I had. Hey, I'm going to I'll post it tomorrow. Just just for, can we put it in the, are we allowed to put it in the YouTube? I don't know. It's a, it's toss up pug pug president pug. Probably fine. Yeah.. I will post on my story tomorrow. I won't I won't give any any update just so people listening they know but there was an anaconda

video. Yes. Max knows I'm talking about it almost got me too. It's like it was like a 70 put like a it was like the biggest anaconda of all time. I was like, that's real. We're fucked. I believe all of them. I there's not a video that I've ever watched that I thought was AI. Did you guys see the one that Stephen Shea posted a few months like maybe a month ago? It was a polar bear with what looks like a leech on its back. And it was like, it was like, the leech was bigger than the polar bear. And it was people going and scraping the leech off the Polar bear is probably really appreciative We gotta be better PSA we gotta be better listen I get tricked all the time our boss got centled today

So it happens but the AI thing scares me because we can't let AI take us over. I know it. We're smarter than AI. We are. Although if AI does take over, just shout out AI. I actually seriously love you. That was just a joke earlier. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. We got to tip our cap. Like, please give us a job. Please give us a job to make like different faces into a camera and pay us $2 an hour. So the great thing is I don't think that they make AI that's dumb enough that could ever do part of my take. Like AI would never be dumb enough. Don't tempt them. AI would never be dumb enough to fall for an AI video of a whale. That's true. It's true. The computer would figure it out. Program that.

You can't replicate these moments. No, okay. All right Well, let's kick it to ourselves back in sooner. Then we got biz and Chris Berman Okay before we get to the rest of the show game time football is back The 2025 NFL schedule is out in the only place you should be getting tickets is game time the official ticketing partner bar stool sports We're planning our fall schedule game time is the perfect place to do it. I know the Bears go and play in Las Vegas. I think it's week three. You can go to Game Time right now with killer last minute deals all in prices.

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The Garden, the Mecca. It's going to be a pricey ticket $669 I'm seeing as the cheapest. Okay, but game time get $20 off get you know, you're getting the best deal with game time So take the guess we're kind of buying NFL tickets NBA tickets NHL tickets with game time download the game time out Create an account use code PMT for $20 off your first purchase Terms apply again create an account redeem code PMT for $20 off download the game time app today. What time is it game time? Henry yes Congratulations are in order are they I think we're gonna have a baby

Who Jordan and Bill Belichick they They're engaged to be married. Well, at least Jordan is saying that they are engaged to be married. I don't know if Bill knows yet. I don't think that Jordan would make this up, but apparently she's told at least one friend who then talked to the New York Times. Maybe, or maybe without Jordan's direction to talk to the New York Times to let the world know. Happy news. Save the date. Save the date. We're getting married. Little May December relationship. I could have, I also imagine this going as like Jordan just takes Bill Belichick being like, hey, we got to do some shopping real quick. Let's go to, we're going to stop at

Whole Foods. I got to go to Lululemon. And then also we're just going to go pick out a diamond real quick. Yeah. It's just a ring. Just a diamond ring. You've got you've got several of them. Yeah, can I get one? Yeah, so Hank? I will wait until you know, miss Hudson and mr. Belichick report this themselves I do not believe you know, the New York Times fake news media. This is just a report as far as I'm It sounds like you don't want to believe it because you don't want it to be true, right? It sounds are you rooting against bills happy? No, I think everyone should be deserved You know in life personal things

Like everyone's deserved the right to you know, tell the world themselves. Everyone is deserve everyone is deserved in life 50 I think it's bigger than that. I think Hanks rooting against love as I think Hanks rooting against love as you would in general love love. No, you don't I do cuz when I I don't I don't love the fake news But when you when you hear about an engagement of a young Vivacious couple that is gonna plan the rest of their life together. My initial reaction is always Congratulations. No, but you guys have a lot of friends, you know that have gotten married Maybe you're possibly talking about getting engaged things of that nature Do you want to hear it from them?

You don't want to hear it from you know, a source of a source being like, oh did you hear? No, I like they're gonna get married. I know what's going on big cat Yeah, hank is just upset because he thinks that that they're engaged and he didn't find out from bill Oh, he was expecting he's like I I would have thought that I would have been on that text. Yeah I listen, I want to make it a personal. I don't think bill knows I Well, he's gonna be so excited when he finds out Imagine that imagine you find out through the New York Times that you're engaged to be married. That's so cool. That's romantic It's fuck. I mean, this is like the the

The elite class of this country always does their wedding announcements via the New York Times. Is Bill Belichick had to find out a way that he was engaged? He would have liked to see it in the press first. Yeah. The media has always been his friend. It's your favorite thing. Journalism and love. So Hank, I want to make it a pledge. I don't know how we're going to do it. I don't really have any connections, but I will not rest until we get Henry Lockwood an invite to the Jordan Bill Belichick wedding. What's a hashtag gonna be? I think at the very least Hank should be invited to the bachelor party Yeah, that would be fun. What would be a great time? Do you think it's gonna be what how many rings? Yeah, he has eight So not I something with nine. I think it's probably gonna be just love story pills version. Oh, I like that. That's a great hashtag I you might be able to go to the oh

Dude, think about this Bill Belichick. We all know listens to the show religiously What if he's the AWL who we pick for his bachelor party next year? That would be say that that's the guy that would would be sick. With Bill, if you, we know you're listening, we will send Max to your bachelor party and when he has a sprained ankle, you can look at it and be like, you fucking pussy. I think Bill just wouldn't tell the media about the nature of the injury. Yeah. But we'll see how he does. He's got a lower body. We'll see it. I'm excited for you, Hank. Why aren't you excited? I Just I think I don't like this reporting. I mean the hashtags definitely gonna be chapel bill, right? Yeah

Although she might have that she might have to sue herself cuz I'm pretty sure she mm-hmm She trademarked that already would love that there also was a report that the Denigration of hard knocks and Carolina their their relationship might have been because Miss Hudson soon to be Mrs. Belichick Jordan Belichick. It's got a great ring to it. I wouldn't be shocked if they do hyphenated names. Bill Hudson Belichick. Yeah Bill takes it. Yeah yeah Bill Hudson Belichick. I mean you got to think about the kids you want the kids to also be Hudson's. When they when they consummate the kids you want the kids to also be Hudson

When they when they consummate the marriage if he's able to get up, that's gonna be the miracle on the Hudson. Mm-hmm There was a report in this same article that Miss Hudson demanded she be granted content approval and partial ownership of the show She said this to NFL Films. Allegedly. Allegedly. I believe, I don't believe that part, I believe the engagement. I think.

We're choosing one thing to believe from this article, it's that they're engaged. I think that HBO just heard that everyone's gonna call it TARDNOX and then they backed out. I don't think this has anything to do with with Miss Belichick Hudson. This, these might, they might be the new Kardashians. They're doing a reality show

their marriage Their wedding honestly, it's everything it is it's squad goals Me and I don't like your attitude ultimate zag for Bill Belichick. I'll say that much zag like you think Bill's gonna go one way the ways when his whole life, which is Straight and narrow stay away from the media stay away from the drama Focus on the team sometimes. Oh sometimes opposites attract. I I do think that this is the all opposite There's a there are a lot of very rich powerful people that get attracted to women that just completely dominate them Maybe I'm just basing that on the show billions with Paul G. Mahdi But Bill is a control freak and he finally met somebody that can control him. And now he's

like just going hog wild. He loves it. Yeah. He loves being in the passenger seat for a change. Yeah, I'm happy for that. He's riding shotgun on the Jordan Hudson show. There was also a report that she was attending Patriots practices and training camp and that she would wear bright red sweatpants so that bill could see her from the sidelines I love that that's love and that's that's the year that Well, we don't have to talk about that year would happen. That's Inconsequential to the story which is about true love and I don't think that is anything to do with football But apparently she was yeah, she was like staying in the team hotel with him. That's normal. That's very normal for a couple that's engaged

Yeah for a coach his girlfriend. Let's stop with the girlfriend talk. It's a fiance. It's a fiance now though, but it's a fiance. Let's respect it. She's also meeting with senators according to this article. What's wrong with that? I don't like power. Yeah. No, we don't. Why do you think I thought there was something wrong with that? I was very clear. I think it's, it's wonderful. I think we need more women speaking truth to power. I want you to say fiance. I can say the word. I want you to say it when it comes to Jordan and bill Belichick. When they do a collab Instagram post, then I'll believe it. Okay. Okay. Um, there was also another part in the story. I didn't realize this,

but when he was watching the miss main pageant, when he was, uh, which again, very supportive fiance move to do. I like that him Him sitting front and center rooting for her. That's fiance goals. It is. It really is. And he was sitting next to her dad. I didn't realize this part, but her dad is 49 years old. Oh, so Bill is old enough to be her dad's dad. Yeah. What? That makes sense. Yeah. That does make sense. I mean he was up It's a little weird that he's only 49 But he always was old enough to be her grandfather is Bill like when they get married and it's gonna be a lovely wedding I hope that you're an attendance Hank is her dad going to take walk her down the aisle and give her away to Bill Belichick

No, I think he'll be he's still young enough to be the ring bearer probably good. Yeah Yeah, he'll come down and he'll be like he and his you know, Jordan Jordan's mom will come down with the flower. She'll be the flower girl. He'll be the ring bearer. It'll be so cute. I think it's lovely. It is. It's beautiful. What Max beautiful. Yeah, no, I do. You think he asked for permission? Oh, from the bell check had the oh, I think the dad might ask permission from Bill Belichick. Will you please marry my daughter? Yeah, will you are you okay with my daughter telling everyone we're engaged you're engaged This is Romeo and Juliet all over again. It's fucking except for the ending the ending is gonna be great in this one

It's fucking beautiful. It really is two star-crossed lovers. I love love Has Belichick ever done like a big documentary about his life. I Don't I know he's done NFL film stuff. No, so she'll be in that. Oh I think it's gonna be a document about her life Featuring Bill Belichick. Yeah, yeah, Bill Belichick through the eyes of Jordan Hudson. Who's more famous Bill Belichick or Jordan? I think it's pretty neck-and-neck right now those marrying up right and like non football fans really don't know who Bill Belichick is anyone any pop culture fan knows who Jordan is she's she's the hottest thing going right girl all right other thing we had to talk about we have the world's worst

Twitter fight because both both guys can be a lot on Twitter. Ryan Clark versus RG three all based on a foul in the WNBA. Uh, so quick summation RG three did a, uh, podcast. I didn't realize he does his podcast with, with his lovely wife, Greta Greta. Yeah. Are sitting in the background. Yeah. Is that RG three in the ones? Yeah, that's a, so she sits in the background. Um, she's like a Glenn, Glenn, uh, Humber Nick from the Tom Green show, the most insane podcast aesthetics I've ever seen. She's quite something. She's a little more active than Glenn. Yeah, but she's sitting there and then RG3 did an entire podcast, uh, basically saying that Angel Reese hates Caitlin Clark, which why is that wrong? I don't understand why

anyone would be upset about that portion. I understand there's, there's racial, again, this story, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese just becomes a race war instantly. But I believe that Caitlin Clark does dislike or sorry, Angel Reese does dislike Caitlin Clark very much I kind of think that by now it goes both ways where where Caitlin got she was very upset I think rightfully so last year when she got that hard foul and Angel Reese was the first one off the bench clapping and then Angel hit her in the head. I think that there's like there's definitely some animosity between them, but yeah I think I think that obviously it's clear that Angel Reese hates Caitlin Clark or at the very least Hates what she perceives to be Caitlin Clark's audience and what they stand for

I'm just gonna go out right and say it. She hates Caitlin Clark I think she does and that's fine because rivalries are good. I'm sure as you gave them both true serum They both hate each other. Yeah, they like it. That's that's the fun part about sports. I think Angel Reese hates Caitlin Clark more though. Yeah probably and Angel Reese, because again this goes back to what I said on Monday, the issue with this rivalry is Caitlin Clark is just a lot better and more entertaining of a basketball player. If Angel Reese is a power forward it's not going to be the same as like the Steph Curry of women's basketball and Caitlin Clark, she is fun to watch, hitting deep threes and everything.

Getting rebounds is not as fun or appealing to the viewers. Not saying Angel Reese isn't a good basketball player, but Caitlin Clark is a transcendent basketball player. I'm lightweight upset that we're taping part of my take right now, because this is time that I could be using to scroll X, the Everything app, to read more takes about Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark yeah and what it means about our society and all

the think pieces about the WNBA can we just take some time to appreciate the fact that we're at a point where people are now engagement farming off of the WNBA oh yeah which should be a toxic that should be a massive win for the WNBA right big time like they're're now to a point where content about the WNBA is leading the news cycle, but it does get, it gets absolutely exhausting reading all these takes. Like I am, I'm worn out from reading these takes. It's exhausting, but it's also so entertaining because I'm, I don't really have a dog in this fight in that I'm just watching from the sidelines being like, yeah, yeah, that is right. Oh no,, that is right. Oh, no, no, that is racist. Yeah. Back and

forth. I made a list. I made a list yesterday of the best takes are the strongest most wild takes I've seen about this because people are on their shit right now. They see this and they're like, I got to come up with a threat. I'm gonna I'm gonna compare the situation to Israel Palestine. That's next very important thread. But the best takes that I've seen, one, Kaitlin should be arrested for getting a triple double. Okay. Yeah, I saw that because she asked her coach to put her back in the game so she could get another rebound. And that is literally illegal.

That person is going to, I hope that person is sitting down when we show them a tape of Ricky Davis. Yeah, that would shock them. Or Davis famously throwing the ball off the opposition's hoop To try to get the tenth rebound for a triple double. Yep number two What if Angel Reese had gotten killed on that foul? Oh She got seriously injured or worse now. I'm gonna be honest with you PFT I didn't think about that and now that I'm thinking about that. It's probably love that take. It's problematic I love that take what if anyone died? Yeah, I mean ever listen when you have hard

Thought it's a hardwood court. She could have hit her head on it. That's true. Number three. Caitlin Clark is a racist Yep, and then number four Caitlin Clark is not racist enough. Hmm. So everyone's angry at everybody and It is it's something to see on I personally think that this is big Psyop to distract you from the fact that the Boston Celtics They blew a 0 to 2 lead against the New York Knicks in the playoffs Yeah the the other one that I have I I enjoy very much is people basically saying Caitlin Clark has to Speak for all of her fans. Yeah, and Say something about them, you know, you can't hate Angel Reese.

She needs to stand up and do her responsibility and say, hey fans, stop it. Which she has done in the past. Well, she literally did that, I think it was after the NCAA national championship. Yeah. She was like, don't treat her badly. And Angel Reese has also done the,

she did a speech I think last year where she was essentially like I I'm the villain here and I like it like I'm gonna help help grow the game for being a villain and then they asked her about that this year and she said no comment, but So so back to RG 3 verse Ryan Clark Ryan Clark then did a show This is all very stupid, but also very funny Ryan Clark did his show his podcast where he basically Said that RG 3 can't talk about this because he has a white wife He has his ex-wife was white as well is obsessed with making milk jokes And then RG 3 came over the top and said hey, dude, don't bring my family into this

That's fair. Everyone knows in mafia and podcast wars, the family stays out of it. But if the white, if the wife is literally true, good point. She is in the, she's in the show. Uh, and then that's a very good point, Hank. And then Ryan Clark, I feel like Ryan Clark does this like maybe four or five times a year where he gets in a fight and then he does the like, well yeah, I hope your dad dies and then walks away. He basically was like, yeah, hey RG3, you were the worst teammate I ever had both on the field and at ESPN.

Everyone hates you and you suck at your job. Why did he, he just went all the way. It is funny how the podcast scene turns even like the hardest professional athletes into just middle school girls Yeah, just little bitches just like dude. You're fighting you're fighting over a foul in the WFBA Hey Robert, guess what? You're not invited to my birthday anymore. Yeah, so suck on that. Hey Robert I heard I heard in in fifth grade you pissed your pants during lunch. Mm-hmm, and and people called you pee pants Mm- pants. So, man, it is kind of exhausting to keep up with all this. And, uh, I, I just know that I'm,

I'm the big winner in this situation. I just get to sit back and scroll, baby. Just refreshing the timeline. It is, they should just, they should play one NBA WNBA game a week so that we can have the other six days. Just think about what that game meant and discuss it. So this is what Ryan Clark said. This was the final for now. And again, he just goes, he just goes right to the like lowest point being like, hey, every, every,

you don't realize everyone hates you. Yeah. Which is such a shitty thing to do. But he said, bruh, you know what it is with me and you. I saved you the entire season of Mennonet football. I urged people to let you be you, no matter how corny, how bad a teammate you were. I had your back. This is really, this is like, Hey,

I don't care what everyone says about you. I think you're an okay guy. What did you do? Invite someone on your show. You know, I don't fool with to ask questions about me and then hit me weeks later to tell me you're going to challenge one of my takes. You're a phony, bro. One of the worst teammates I ever had both on the field and in TV. You got to do what you got to do I didn't attack your wife. I spoke on what you do on social media and TV Like I said, I met your wife and she seemed like a lovely lady

That was worth more than the color of her skin. You'd be good, bro It was a foul it was a pretty common foul and that's that's that's what RG3 should come back with. You'd be like, Hey dude, are we still talking about a foul? This is like heroin to me. Yeah, it's it's quite something. It's so good. And by the way, the one thing that Ryan Clark is correct on is RG3 is corny. He is, but he'll be the first to say that he makes me and listen, I am compromised when it comes to the RG 3 Situation because I have no choice but to support his wife Yeah, his wife is a strong powerful woman with a great voice and I will not ever say anything bad about her I am NOT compromised and I would say my ruling is RG 3. Yes. He is corny. Yes

It is kind of uncomfortable when he's like makes a joke about like his wife's milk That does kind of creep me out a little bit a joke about like his wife's milk that does kind of creep me out a little bit. But other than that, Ryan Clark is kind of a psycho and just went like nuclear on a take about a foul in the WNBA. I think Ryan Clark gets very, very emotional. That's very emotional. That's kind of the thing with his podcast is the times where I see him go mega viral, it'll be like that soft somber music and he'll just be like Almost crying into the camera. Yeah about something getting worked up. He's a

Touch with his feelings it basically comes down to RG 3 had a misdemeanor of being corny online and Ryan Clark put him in front of a firing squad. Yeah, the Punishment does not make meet the crime here. Where you say hey, I just more I've been thinking You know my biggest takeaway is just thinking about the conversation between RG 3 and Greta about greta setting up the podcast yeah you guys are podcasting trailblazers do you ever think like you just sit someone let's just have someone sit without a mic ten feet behind us. Yeah. Was that, is that a joke about yourself? But behind my whole goal behind you're right. No, Mike. Yeah, actually that's the crime.

If RG three really want to do a podcast, he'd put the person scrolling their phone on a couch next to it. Well, you guys obviously have not watched RG three's podcast. This was a clip that RG three did in the podcast podcast Greta is a very important part. She does have a microphone and she's About to voice her opinion Hank. Ah good. That's good. God Yeah, now if you had asked me when we started part of my take what's the reason you're starting this podcast? I would have told you so that one day RG 3 and his wife can also do a podcast. Mm-hmm And also one day we can do 20 minutes on Jordan Hudson marrying bill Belichick and RG3 and Ryan Clark having a fight

That literally does not mean anything to anyone Except it's very great entertainment what I love about this entire situation Going back to the angel Reese Caitlin Clark dynamic is that this is just but a small taste of how toxic Sports fans can be online. Yeah, and the WNBA is just as, but a small taste of how toxic sports fans can be online. Yeah. And the WNBA is just- Sports fans are mean and ugly. They're, they're just getting a tiny nibble of the, of what really goes on.

Like the WNBA, if you are, if you compare that to NBA Twitter or what's, what happens on NBA social media, it's way, way worse in the NBA. Although I think- Now it's like a new group, a new fan base being exposed to how crazy sports fans get online. And yeah, that's kind of, that's kind of the world that we live in. I think though, the only difference is like NBA Twitter is fun for the most part. People are trying to have fun, get jokes off. Not for, not for Hank. Well, Hank is specifically talking about the other night. Uh, WNBA Twitter just takes itself way too seriously. It just can't, it can't, every foul can't

be, can't be the most egregious thing that's happened in race relations in the world. Where I get lost is kind of like the white boy Rick, like when like NBA Twitter is absolutely ruthless to every single player. Right. Making fun of them. Like every single night's a meme. It doesn't matter how good they are. Jokes are made at their expense. So like the angel people getting mad about a clip where Angel Reese is dribbling the ball at her face Yeah, and kind of like poking fun at her. That's that's what sports Twitter is. That's where NBA Twitter yeah, like they they have a Quiet agreement that you can just be mean to everyone and no one's gonna really take it too personal I saw I saw Jalen Brown's face as Osama bin Laden the other day. Yeah

Now if I'm Angel Reese, it's some advice for both Angel and Caitlin Just don't be on social media because I would imagine that most of the really really bad shit that you deal with is From people that are DMing you from anonymous accounts probably saying some really really bad stuff And then you take reading all that into the real world And then you just assume the worst about your opponent's fans and all this shit I would just log off have somebody else run your social media do your ad deals do all that shit for you But don't I would stay off. I'd imagine they are that's also where I lose ain't the angel argument a little bit, too

Cuz I do think which is rightfully so and And not a bad thing at all like it's good if she kind of flip-flops between like I'm a villain right I have a podcast right I do all these magazine shoots like I'm putting myself out there But then she kind of takes the other side of like whoa I'm just a basketball player trying to do my job like she doesn't fully want to get embraced like the billbier role. Yeah. I think you have to be that has to be in you to begin with. Yeah. You can't like LeBron said, I think it is though. I don't think so. Cause like remember when LeBron was even like the ring, like that was funny. That was good though. Like she's a good heel and she knows that. And she says that sometimes, but then we'll

also play victim. See? Yeah. You can't,. See, yeah, you can't hate to be hated and love to be loved at the same time. But that's also the problem with this entire rivalry, again, is that I think that she likes to be the villain in it until they play and it's like, oh, shit, Caitlin Clarke's really good. This kind of sucks. I think she likes to say, I'll be the villain,

because it makes her feel good in the moment, but she really does not want to be the villain. I also think that if the sky beat the fever in a playoff series, she would be the villain. Yeah. She would go back to being a villain. Right. You can't see, I agree with Hank that like you can't pick and choose when you're on top. You can't be the villain. And then when you're on, when you're losing, be like, oh no, I don't want this. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like you can't have both. You can't, you can't, I mean, honestly, it's kind of like dream on dream on does something't want this. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like you can't have both you can't you can't I mean honestly Yeah, it's kind of like dream on yeah dream on does something similar. Yeah, all I know is that They should just play these these games every single week. There should be a sky fever game every Saturday

Mm-hmm, and they're playing in Chicago next love it. We should feel like we should go to that one go Just supporting both sides. What is the date? I? Forget it's on a Saturday though. All right, I'm out. But I'll watch the highlights on Twitter when people have... Yeah, I don't think I was ever in. I think I'm gonna go just as-

Yeah, Hank was not in. Just as a peacemaker. June 7th, is that a Saturday, 7 p.m.? Yeah. Nope. Oh. Definitely. Okay, you know those, you know the- I'm gonna take a rain check, you know, they wait what What is it in Rosemont? No, it's no, no, they play that game at the United they move that game to the United Center

Yeah, the sky fever you better believe it. Oh, that's awesome. They play their games Caitlin Clark effect I might an angel Reese effect. I might go to the game You know the guys that wear the orange dress around Chicago and they try to neutralize situations? Yeah. You know them? Yeah. I think I might do that at this game. Just to try to calm everybody down.

I forgot they were moving a lot of these Caitlin Clark games to bigger places. What were you going to say Hank? I'm still out but United Center makes it a little more appealing. Wind Trust is downtown too. They play it at, oh yeah. They play their games at Wind Trust because of Kate and Clark, they're playing it at United Center.

I think they did the same thing for some other games. I can't remember where. I think maybe San Antonio have a team? I don't think so. Sparks, no. No, Dallas Wings. You know what, we're just Sky Fever guys. Yeah, just let me know when this game is happening. We're Sky Fever. Sparks. No. No. Dallas wings. You know what? We're just sky fever guys. Yeah just let me know when this game is happening. We're sky fever. Yeah the stars. No that's

this. Oh the stars? The San Antonio stars? Yeah. I'm pretty sure they moved that one to the Alamo Dome. Oh they do have a team. Yeah. Yeah we knew. We know we're a WNBA. Come on guys. All I know is that every. National sports podcast for a reason. It's this is all a big distraction and the mystics are to know and nobody's talking about that There you go about these these other teams All right, let's do hot seat cool throw and then we'll get to our interviews We got oh wait, no now San Antonio stars were a professional basketball. Okay, so we listen hand up We were fans. We have a nostalgia brain with the WNBA. Bring back the stars. We were bigger fans 10 years ago if we're going to be honest. That's all I'm

saying is bring the stars back. So they didn't move the game to the home. They moved one of the games. I don't know where one of the games. So find the game they moved so I could guess I can take a half a point. One of the games they moved to a bigger arena. It's similar to the wind trust to United center. Why are you talking about? They moved at some point in WMB history, they moved a game in San Antonio from no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying they moved. They've been moving games for Caitlin Clark to bigger arenas. So that's why the, oh okay, so Dallas, so I was right, Texas.

Yeah, they moved it from, they moved it to a bigger arena. That's the Caitlin Clark effect is that like, when they go to these cities, they've been moving the venue, some of the Wintrash United Center to a bigger venue because the tickets are so crazy. All right, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne. It is brought to you by our friends at Body Armor. This segment is brought to you by our friends at Body Armor. This segment

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Yankees to Mets and because I do think this is like a lot of the reports. I've seen are from Yankees Kind of biased media Tommy smokes Tommy smokes Michael Kay. Well, it's like Tommy smokes John Boy Michael Kay, yeah are the ones you know pushing this story forward Michael Kay said people in the nose They want soda wanted to be a Yankee He chose the Yankees, But his family wanted him to be met so he chose them that this feels like cope from the Yankees and But the private jet one there. What was that? He's taking private jets instead of traveling with the team Good for him. How common is that? I can't be common Jeff passing denounce this oh, okay? So that was from John boy that one. Okay, so that that alright

I'm thinking he might have taken a private jet at some point for some specific reason like there could yeah there could be a Series in the middle of summer where he's bringing his family. Yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, I'll just hop on with them But he has there's no way he's taking a private jet for every that's just a waste of money Or he's got like a family event that he's he has to make it back for yeah, he takes a slightly earlier flight I this is big-time cope by Yankees fans, and I get it You're not used to losing out on the big fish and especially not losing out on a big fish that goes just right across town So listen you got it you got to get through it somehow so if you just want to tell yourself stories that that's fine Yeah, deal with it

But mess fans, I mean memes you you you tell us Mets fans aren't happy with him either. Oh Why is he hitting 150? No, thanks. Uh, oh He doesn't look happy. He didn't run first base against Yankee. That's the thing It's like there's one play where he didn't run as hard as he possibly could to first base another I'm gonna personally don't give fuck yeah on the team for however Many years doesn't matter you met guess what means he's awesome at base I got a bad take that I'm gonna say out loud if someone paid me 700 million dollars to play baseball

I would sometimes not run to first base Cuz I would probably just be distracted be like shit. Why am I running first base? I have 700 million dollars That was an out that's the thing is like if you reach that point where you get that massive contract you won yeah right you won be hard to get motivated I'll just be totally on your human nature you're one-to-no lifetime right and you're gonna retire with that record like imagine striking out with a 700 million dollar contract can you be that bummed no I don't think I did but have you seen his projected numbers for his 15 years I'm not tell me about the projected numbers

Point oh 50 average. This is in the whole 15 years 34 home runs 120 RBI's in 2087 double plays wow Would that be a record? Was 34 baseball reference This was Frank the Tank Fleming. Oh, okay. That's great. Toothed that over almost 3000 double plays.

Wow. And only 34 home runs? Two home runs a year for, yeah. Oh man. That probably means that, where's he hitting in the order? Fourth? Probably, yeah. That means that whoever's hitting ahead of him is going to be basically like the hit

king. He'll get 370k per induced double play. By the way way, speaking of home runs Kyle Schorber hit his 16th He's won back from Shohei. He should maybe be MVP Cubs are good, right? With the San Antonio Stars No our guy Kyle Stowers who if you didn't listen to this show on Monday Kyle Stowers and Tyler Phillips were awesome on the show. It's a little different We obviously don't have a ton of baseball guests, but they were just cool dudes

He had a Big hit and beat the Cubs on Monday night that sucked Kyle Tucker, maybe not running out to get a final out maybe not running as hard as he can but he actually doesn't have an excuse because he hasn't gotten the $500 million contract. Yeah, he's got no quit. He's not allowed to quit. Might have gotten it.

It became one of my favorite things that we do as sports fans, especially online. I don't know if you could pull up the Kyle Tucker. He might have been able to get to it he's not the fastest guy but he there were two outs and there was a ball hit to him and it went past him and then the the Marlins ended up winning an extra innings or sorry in in they walked it off and just having a bunch of people being like I would have caught that like me I run a lot harder and I fucking get that ball I do love that discourse though about Juan Soto like I wish that he would have run harder to first base on this Therefore he's not worth the money that we paid him. Yes one hit ideally

Yeah, you'd like your players, but yeah to your point big cat if you won the lottery Would you would you still take the trash out every single day? I'll tell you what if I won the lottery I would podcast and then like if you guys brought up a story I hadn't seen I just like I don't care. Yeah, that would be me not running to first base I just refresh my bank account like a B and it's a meeting. Yes, like what are you saying Hank? Oh, I'm sorry I'm looking at all the zeros You max is just in a torture chamber finding like baseball highlights are so hard Well, if they're not if they're not home, yeah, actually everything out. They just an exactly don't have the best search bar anymore

So it is what it is All right, Hank. What's your cool thrown cool thrown is the all-american rejects? Oh, yeah, I saw this this is this is very cool They're doing a a backyard tour. Oh, that's awesome across the Midwest. Yeah, they're just showing up in people's backyards I think they're playing they have like a sign up sheet that you can book them for a backyard. They were in Chicago Yeah, yeah, they say the other night, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome Like they just were at a house party, which is one of the coolest things This is something if I were a very famous musician I would do all the time like remember when we were in

Atlanta for the Super Bowl and went to the Northside Tavern? Great fucking bar. Shout out Northside Tavern. Everyone was like, oh, you should have been here last night. At two in the morning, Dave Grohl came up and played for like an hour. Yeah, I would do that too. That's so cool. It's like the, I would get dressed up though as an old guy, like Uncle Drew. Yeah.

I would just be like, can you believe this old man got up there and then sang a song and sound exactly like good Charlotte member and they take the mask off. It's me binge. Yeah, Joel did that. I remember that video she dressed she like put on prosthetics and did a karaoke night. Yeah, holy shit. This woman's incredible. This is very cool. I like the American rejects. Good for them. Yeah. Very cool. Cool. Okay. Pft. My hot seat is the tush push. Again, so they've they've officially put this rule out there, they're gonna be voting on it this week about whether or not the tush push should be banned. And it's all the reporting on it makes it seem like it has a possibility of getting banned now. Breaking moose sorry breaking moose is huge breaking moose

Glass banger is out of jail Glass banger is out of jail. I was talking about biz sure, but that's pretty big Oh you you're holding the cow back in case it was Jordan. Yeah, that's that's illegal You have to do breaking. I didn't know if you I could have been satirical. Yeah, he's he's out of jail He spread the word Lfg stars bang. He's tweeted. So so How did that come across your timeline? Uh, Liam Blutman sent it to me. Oh sick. Yeah He he just said out of jail. Okay. Well, that's yeah, that's that's gonna affect how I bet on that series. Yeah, sure. Absolutely Okay, sorry

So the Packers proposed the rule change we know that that way there's no owner that everybody can get mad at you Just get mad at the entire city of Green Bay and Matt LaFleur has to go on podcasts and take the bullets It's not him that's proposing the rule change, but can be called a pussy Yeah, it does sound like it does sound like it might get banned this year. And again, I'm opposed to banning the tush push Just figure out a way to stop it. But also if they do ban it, I'll be pumped because I was on the side saying don't ban it, but now I don't have to deal with it. Correct. So I'm playing both sides as a podcast. We do not want the tush wish band. It's very unfair, but if it got banned I will not get in front of it's very unfair to ban it. You can't ban it a play

because one team is way better at it than every other team. Oh, congrats. But if it does get banned, that's awesome. Congrats, by the way, on Nick Sirianni's new contract, Max. You wanted him fired how many times in his tenure at the Philadelphia Eases? Zero times. That's a lie.

I don't know what you're talking about. I never said that. I think the real issue that they should deal with, with the tush push, don't ban it. Just let the defense do the exact same thing, where you can throw guys at the play yeah fight fire with fire yeah I think they do that I don't think that you're allowed to well you're allowed to push yeah you can you saying throw guys over the line yeah what are the rules on

defense you say launch like lift them up and throw can you can you propel a player on defense can you grab a player on defense and then I think them towards the ball? It's a reverse Mike Leach, like getting a shorter person and launching them over the line. Yeah. I don't understand why they keep saying player safety when no players ever gotten hurt from the play. Yeah, no, it makes no sense. They're trying to scare you. No, no player has ever gotten hurt Chris Jones Max let me just follow what you're saying real quick Are you saying that the NFL doesn't care about player safety? Yeah, no what's but there are you serious? It's just what there's whiny babies Max the NFL does not care about player safety. They just say players

It's basically the all-do respect of the NFL where they can say whatever they want afterwards They say player safety and then they're like, yeah You know what? Let's send a team to fucking Spain and play on weird grass and then have them come back and play a game six days later But we care about player safety Yeah, that's the whole that's the whole thing they do also defenses are Maybe this is just kicking plays it might be on they're not allowed to push or pull their own teammates Is what I'm reading in the rule book right now might just be on kicking plays though PFT

The other rule that is up for grabs this week Which I am going to be upset about is they are proposing to do playoff seating one through seven strictly based on record. Automatically get in if you are a wild card or if you win the division. Yeah, but they're going to do it on record. I hate this. I don't like it either because it's fun when you have a team that's below 500 that somehow wins a playoff game. It also doesn't make sense if you. If you're going to have like the division winner should get a home playoff game that should be like some years it sucks last

year this is all reaction to one year where the NFC North was really good and the Packers and Vikings had really good records and they had to go all the way down the wild card they're making the argument because they did this whole slideshow I read this, that they essentially showed that week 17 and 18 will have less starters sitting because they'll be just more up for grabs. Like last year the Eagles could have gone down to the three seed. The Texans were locked into the four seed last year. They could have gone all the way down to seven.

So their argument is you have to play the whole season. I get that part. I just think that if you're going to play a lopsided schedule where you play six teams in your division, you should reward the winner of that division. I agree. If you're, if you're not going to then get, they get rid of divisions, which would also suck. If you're in a great division, then yes, absolutely. If it means more, if you're able to beat that division, get a whole, it puts more on the line in those games. Yeah. So I, I agree with this. I think it's reactionary to like this one thing that happened that could have blown up in their faces, but it didn't even really blow up in their faces that much. Yeah. I'm just scared that once, cause my knee-jerk

reaction was like, this is stupid. They're being reactionary. And then I saw that someone put together a slideshow about the ratings and week 17 and 18 starters. And that makes me nervous because if there's one thing the NFL will do is change everything so that more people watch. That's true. So that's where I'm scared that this could pass. They're also voting on whether or not to allow players to play in the Olympics in flag football. I think that passed. Did it officially passed? Okay, it passed. So you can make the rule saying that the players are allowed to play in the Olympics but I don't know if you've seen the flag football players that we already have playing flag football Oh, yeah, and I don't know that Patrick Mahomes would be an upgrade on what we got at quarterback

No, we got that guy was like 5 8 right 170 pounds who throws it so weird, but he said he's better than Patrick Well, yeah like football specialists pass from homes wouldn't understand this game So sure Patrick homes would be able to be good at flag football. No, not better than this guy game. So your patch from homes would be able to be good at flag football. No, not better than this guy. It's true. This guy is he's dialed in. He doesn't patch rooms doesn't understand the rules of flag football. It's so arrogant for NFL players to think that they can just go in and dominate football. Could you imagine Lamar trying to get Lamar Jackson's flag? Oh, I

can't wait for the schedule release video that we do for the US flag football to just roasting every other country. I'm just imagining like a Croatian dude trying to grab the flag of Lamar Jackson. Yeah Then we he would never he would never be down or Tyreek Hill. Yeah. Oh man All right, your cool throne. My cool throne is I got two one is friendship Oh friendships on the cool throne. As we discussed a couple months ago, I drunkenly ordered eight tickets to go see ACDC. And then I had Greer give away all the tickets because I didn't want to feel anyone to feel

left out in this office. Smart move. I got a little notification yesterday from one of the people that had committed to going Ben Mence. Oh, no. And he got an offer for another ticket. A better offer? I think my ticket might be better. I didn't ask, but Ben was like,

is it cool if I take this other ticket and then you can have my ticket? Wait, so he gifted your ticket back to you? My ticket back to me. What a guy. So now, Hank, I'd like to formally invite you to go see ACDC on Saturday at Soldier Field. I actually, I mean, I appreciate the offer.

I do have a family in town, man. Cause you've been complaining about not getting to go see ACDC. Well, I accepted it initially. And then when you took it away from me, I made other plans. Okay. Well, Hank, I want, I want to get you, don't you have someone else you need to get a ticket for? What about me?

I'll pick out. Would you like to go? I'll accept the ticket. Okay. Hank, would you like to take my ticket? No. Oh, I'm gonna give my ticket back. Tell you what, Noah, I'm gonna have someone else you need to give a ticket to. I'm giving Big Cat's ticket back to Big Cat. And now Big Cat gets to decide who gets the last ticket to the ACDC. I can't go. You're not gonna take a free ticket? I would love to. I got other, I got commitments. You got what was that? Responsibilities?

Do you have 18 commitments on Saturday? No. What if we got you another ticket? Yeah, I would do that. All right, so we just gotta get you one more ticket. You know what, let's convince Mincy he's gotta give us that extra ticket. The new ticket that he has.

That he has. We'll get that one and then we'll give two to Hank. Okay, let's convince mincy he's got to give us that extra ticket. The new ticket that he has that he has. We'll get that one. Some other friends to Hank. Okay. Hanks in. No big cat. You are now officially in charge of giving away this last take to somebody. I actually think there might be a ticket up for.

I think I heard someone, someone bailed in the, in the Greer crew. Okay. So we got two tickets. Am I going to end up with all the tickets? Do you want me to ask if there's an extra ticket? I could, I could. yeah, I got a go and Greer's got an extra ticket So we've got two extra tickets right now So Hanks gonna go then I would go you know if there were two tickets

Yeah, you would take two tickets, and then just not use one and use one. No. He's gonna. He's gonna use the other one He's gonna go with someone my cousin is is Staying like he's moving in on Sunday so he's staying with me Saturday so I don't want to just leave him behind. Okay. He's moving to Chicago. Oh nice where'd he get a job? He's interning. He's got an internship. My other cool throne is acting. Acting. I can't believe we didn't talk about this on on Sunday or maybe even Friday when it came out There's a movie coming out about the Raiders. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes. It's not this was AI I mean to when I first saw it's gonna start Nick Cage and Christian Bale

Nick Cage is gonna play John Madden. It looks so good, which is incredible. By the way, I watched the Rock on Saturday Still holds off course. That is a fucking banger of all I'm gonna watch it Yeah, it's so good losers cry about the best winners go home and fuck to the prom queen It's so good. Look at this Yeah, yeah Christian Bale and Nick Cage Christian Bale is Al Davis Nick Cage is John Madden somewhere Shane Gillis is in it Yeah, I guess I gotta say they nailed the pants and yeah, they did I've seen a bunch of pictures of Nick Cage walking around wearing pants and it's like those are John Madden 1970s pants I'm so excited. It's hard to do a good sports movie. Like there's a lot more

I feel like there's more bad sports movies than good ones. Yeah, so I'm rooting for this Well, here's the thing about the f1 movie with Brad Pitt will be good too Ford vs. Ferrari. No, that movie is great. Shout out Peter turn Brad Pitt would be good too. Ford vs Ferrari? No, that movie's great. Shout out Peter Charney. No, there's a new one that's coming out. Oh, okay.

The thing with sports movies, they get a lot better if they have the official logos. Yes. So like Draft Day would have sucked as a movie. Yes. Like terrible acting from whoever played the running back that was drafted by the Browns. I forget that guy's name, but he sucked. But if they didn't have the official logos for the teams, that movie would suck. They had the official logos and the movie was awesome. Yeah. This is going to have the official logos for the teams that movie would suck They had the official logos and the movie was awesome. Yeah, this is gonna have the official logos

So now I'm gonna watch and be like is this the NFL this is all I think I'm watching the NFL right now I'm watching football. It'll trick me into thinking movies good no matter and also with those two acting fuck. Yes, I'm here Okay, my hot seat is the Phoenix Suns Phoenix Suns as everyone remembers they sold their team was the old owners names Robert Sarver that sounds right yeah for kind of institutional chaos and the Phoenix Suns I think he was a wee bit of a racist maybe allegedly I can't remember the NBA owner I can't I can't remember the details to it but that's neither here nor there. Matt Ishvia bought the team and

Guess what? They're back in it because there's a lawsuit now out that son CEO Josh Bartelstein might have had an inappropriate relationship with Sophie Cunningham who played on the Phoenix Mercury Hmm, so the sons are back in it. So this guy Bartelstein mm-hmm. I looked him up. know, he was a college basketball player. Yeah, Michigan. He's a Michigan man this is what I think of when I think of Michigan men this guy and Yeah, I I kind of like having chaos around ownership groups in the NBA I don't know what to think about this one. Was this an affair or was it? Allocations of an affair

There was a I think there's been three different lawsuits filed against the sons for like You know bad workplace unsafe conditions Discrimination they basically have just been getting The same thing the old owner got and then in one of these lawsuits I think it was an old an ex security guard Like team security guard who filed a lawsuit about racial discrimination and demotion and in that he was like Oh, yeah, the son CEO and Sophie Cunningham are fucking so do we know that that's true?

It's all alleged as right now, but it's just also very funny because the sons are just backing it. If true, you probably need to fire that guy. Yeah. I don't think that you can be at least fire him from the mercury side of it because he's the CEO of both. Yeah. Well, unless he's sleeping with any of the dudes. That's true. You got, you're going to have to do a little research, going to have to do a little research. Also, my hot seat is, um, and this guy seems like a nice guy, but I have a problem with his reporting. I don't know if you guys saw, but in the, in BP the other night on Monday night, there was a Reds player who hit a pigeon with a, I think it was, I

think he hit the ball and hit a pigeon. Yeah. Charlie Goldsmith reported in batting practice today, Reds player hit a pigeon with a line drive Unfortunately, the pigeon passed away immediately. I Immediately was like RIP to the pigeon. I feel terrible that we loved that pigeon. I missed his update He said update the pigeon is alive, but he's essentially on life support I don't know what pigeon life support is so maybe they they injected him with that stuff that lowers the body temperature Yeah, and just put him in the coma Yes, miracle on ice. Yeah, I think that this pigeon if it pulls through then the Reds are the team of destiny Yeah, I haven't gotten an update on what's happening with the pigeon The pigeon also could have had

Do not resuscitate on his license is the pigeon brain dead Yeah So they so they could have the pigeon family could have pulled the pulled the plug So they've just got maybe a pigeon in a hospital bed with like a feeding tube of mushed up sunflower seeds That's just going right into its stomach. Just trash. Yeah It's just like a solo cup and trash going just ground up into his feeding tube. Yeah, this is I mean This is sad stuff real sad stuff. I hope I hope the hope the pigeons okay it would be amazing comeback would be amazing it's actually Cincinnati man yeah yeah something with

yeah well said Hank throw it in there I mean the true yeah advancements they've they've made in bird hell yeah tomorrow is kind of crazy prayers for tomorrow Harambe or sweet prince. Yeah. I mean, both those things. Yeah. I mean, this happened on a Harambe, obviously, part of it because the animal, but Damar died for a second on the field. So did this pigeon. Yeah.

I mean, if this happened at a Bengals practice, the jokes would just be like, Oh, another season cursed by injuries for the Bengals. We need to get a name on this pigeon. I need an update on this pigeon. And then my cool throw is Tom Cruise because he eats two buckets of Popcorn at the movie theaters, and that is awesome. That's very relatable one bucket is never enough you guys do I Try to do what was that face what one bucket is one bucket is no I have Close to even like putting it I don't even put a dent in this.

I don't get a second bucket, but I finish my bucket before the movie starts. That's soft on Hank and Max's part because you never, that one bucket of popcorn, you can finish that. But there's stomach- I don't believe that you guys have never, I don't believe for a second you've never finished a popcorn. Oh, never. I finish my popcorn before the movie starts

Maybe if I was in like a like me and one other person. I've I've I've never like gotten gotten to the bottom Oh, you're soft. Yeah, that is soft. I finished I finished one popcorn every time Also, the end of the popcorn is always kind of like, you know when it's like ground up When you the bottom of the popcorn can't be great. So that's where I would go get a second I never really get up and get a second because usually that's right when the movie's starting and I don't want to miss it But I like this move by Tom Cruise. That's a beast move I went to a movie definitely knows like the best parts time to get a popcorn, right? That is true. I'm not in the scene for the next five minutes

I went to movie a couple weeks ago my very first bite of popcorn got a kernel stuck right in between on the very fight Nothing will ruin your day like bite number one. Worst. The worst. Worst field. We should do that for Mount Rush for worst minor inconveniences. Yeah, we might've done that. Yeah, we definitely probably toys. But I don't, I don't remember ever talking about the popcorn kernel in your mouth. Tom Cruise just throwing on the charm there. Look at him. Look at that. He's just popping it back. Oh, that's not even a small. Yeah, that's different. That is different. He's eating a small like a bag You know what that bag is that's like a bag to give you at a screening of an important movie that comes out Hey, here's your popcorn

And if you get a small when you're actually at a movie that you pay for the small is about like it's the size of a keg It's crazy. Shout out. They're still small. I'm looking at another picture of him eating buckets and it's the size of a keg. It's crazy shout-out. I'm just still small I'm looking at another picture of him eating buckets and it's another smaller buck Yeah, see this is free popcorn shout-out Tom Cruise like the whole Scientology thing is very weird, and you probably knows where Shelley miscavaged like is Her body is buried and everything he just was like yeah I'm gonna put out a new top gun everyone's gonna forget about that Yeah, I mean Scientology say what you want about the religion, but they picked the best spokesman

that they could ever get. But seriously, like he, it felt like the block was getting a little hot with the documentaries and everything. He's like, I know Top Gun 2. Yeah. People won't care anymore. It was a banger of him. It was such a good movie.

I can't wait for Top Gun 3. All right, let's get to our interviews. We've got Biz, and then we've got our guy, Chris Berman, the Schwamm. Before we get to Biz, he's brought to you by Truly and their Truly Unruly Lemonade. It combines the high-alk fun of Truly Unruly with everyone's favorite, Lemonade.

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finals and who you have to win. But how are you doing your fully like do you know that you can take off the Leafs gear now? I just figured I'd come in costume right. I've been a clown for them all playoffs long but not so much sad just disappointing. Like you know I knew Florida was a great team defending Stanley Cup champions But for them to show up like that in games five and seven at home. I just I couldn't believe it I thought they took their shit in game five So coming back especially after the way they played in game six on the road where they locked it up defensively, you know They didn't make many stupid plays. They were great defensively penalty kill was good I was just shocked

to see them come home and lay an egg like that but ultimately the pressure was too much and credit to the Florida Panthers man they fucking beat the shit out of the Leafs like as far as defensemen and hits taken throughout playoffs I believe the Leafs their top five defensemen were in the top seven as far as hits taken Chris Tana being the most, over a hundred hits he took throughout the first two rounds. So Warriors back there, but yeah, just disappointing on the effort in game seven. So where do we go from here? Yeah.

Deuce fans. I mean Marner during the game, the cameras obviously caught him, you know, maybe he was getting the team fired up, but he looked disappointed. He did a press conference today, seemed to be non-committal about whether or not he was coming back He ain't coming. Do we blow it up? Are we blowing it up? I got a question before that about the Marlowe clip of him yelling to the team was his hair too dry to be yelling like that listen like I'm asking the the the internet's gonna run with it

I think that like, you know, obviously he's wearing a letter and he's trying to be a leader in that situation. I think it's a little bit difficult when it's a guy like that at that particular time saying something where maybe he hasn't been at his best, especially come that second round. Um, there's a stat. Um, I think he's played, uh, like 20 to 22 games, games, five to seven throughout his playoff career at the Toronto Maple Leaf and he doesn't have a goal and he's got seven assists. So based on his regular season performance and numbers, like he just hasn't lived up

to what not only he's being paid, but what the hype is, um, uh, in, in crunch time. And I think that that is a little bit of the criticism that's being snapped around as far as the whole core four. For those of you listening who are not fully aware of this situation, the Toronto Maple Leafs have had these four guys, John Tavares, Austin Matthews, William Nylander and Mitch Marner,

who, you know, making a lot of money. The core group for the Toronto Maple Leafs have constantly been criticized about not being able to make it out of the second round. Sometimes they can't even make it out of the first round. And ultimately this was kind of the last season where you were gonna see the four assembled where Mitch Marner's contracts up. They try to trade him at the deadline for Miko Rottenen and that became made public along all the other along all the other things where like I guess you could say Mitch and his camp have felt disrespected and where the Leafs

have maybe lacked loyalty towards him but at the end of the day like the core four hasn't gotten it done they're all making big big money uh Mitch Marner off his entry level contract signed a deal where he's making $10 million. So there's only been one player who makes $10 million or more who has ever won a Stanley Cup. And that just speaks to the volumes of how with the hard cap, you have to snap the money around and you can't just rely on a couple guys throughout these runs. Like it has to be, like you have to snap the money around Sergey Bobrovsky is that guy who has won it he's got a cap hit of exactly 10 million dollars John Tavares is at 11 Austin Matthews who just resigned a contract he's making 13 and a half he was playing hurt throughout these

playoffs I think the diagnosis and what exactly he was playing through will come out later on he did score in game, but as far as offensive output compared to the regular season, just like Mitch, he struggled also, but I think people are a little bit more lenient on Austin Matthews because he has to play center and he he's good defensively. He breaks up a lot of plays. Um, I mean, the first two games at home and the series against Florida, you know, he, he was, uh, they were, they're plus three, like they'd scored three goals.

They're lying against Sasha Barkov, who's an incredible two-way centerman for the Florida Panthers. So they were, maybe he wasn't lightened up the score sheet, but he was doing his job, stopping him defensively and doing everything else, um, that, that is involved in a good 200 foot game. So John Tavares, who was the older guy who was from Toronto, who was brought in as a free agent, signed a seven year deal where he, when he left the New York Islanders and Frankie,

he's done that contract. So I would be surprised if they brought them back, but they might with a hometown discount. So three of the four core four members might be back. My theory would be that you bring back Nylander, you bring back Matthews and you can build around those guys and with Marner and Taveras coming off the books you have 21 million to spend right there in free agency. So that's kind of the synopsis as to what's going on and it's shitty man. It was brutal like to see to see with described it perfectly like Mitch Marner is a Toronto kid who was drafted

top five to them played for the London Knights in the OHL gets to live his childhood dream playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs he's making all-star games putting up 99 point hundred point seasons obviously we talked about his playoff performance but you you know, his last game is a Toronto Maple Leaf. They get beat six one at home and they're getting booed off the ice, jerseys on the ice, beers being thrown on the ice. Like just like not how you thought that it would end for like, you know, a dream scenario of this kid getting to play in his hometown. So he won't be back. It sucks. Um, I do feel bad for him as far as the amount of heat that he's probably taking personally

I don't think that I think that when you are very vocal and a little bit greedy in contract Negotiations thinking that you're worth a certain amount and you don't live up to that especially in crunch time. I Mean, it's Toronto. You're playing in a big market You want to put yourself in that situation and not snap the money around a little bit more other places. Well, you're going to have to fall on the sword, right? I think that getting guys that are from Toronto might actually just make the problem worse because they've grown up as you know, the with all the the Leafs failures that they've had in the playoffs. Like that moment becomes bigger if it's a team that you grew up rooting for and now you're in that moment, right? Yeah, I would agree with that because you really can't escape it, right? Like your roots are in Toronto, everybody who knows the Leafs fan, like you just can't get

out of your bubble. And that's where I sympathize for these guys. We had Matthew Kachuk on to come stuff me in a locker for the what? 14th time this season on yesterday's podcast. And he goes, I feel for those guys, they competed, but he goes any other market, if they're living somewhere else, I feel like they're a way better team. Essentially saying that the pressure and of how ridiculous fans are in Toronto, it's counteractive. It's not even necessarily home ice advantage. In fact, you'd rather go play on the road like they did in game six, get away from the noise. But buddy, you're playing in the big smoke like, like, you know, I, you know, D, D vocal about not, not sign there or don't bend them

over and contract negotiations. And the, but going back though, that is the, one of the bigger issues that I have with who was in charge and when they handed these deals over. I think that, you know, Mitch Marner, Austin Matthews, William Nylander are incredible players. Nylander actually out of his entry level only ended up signing a $7 million deal. So he was being fairly paid, if not maybe a little bit underpaid, but Matthews and Marner got the big tickets, right?

And that's where I feel like they, because they were restricted. If I was the general manager, I would have said, hey, I get that you guys are are gonna be superstars in this league, but you haven't proven shit. So this is the number we're prepared to offer you. You're restricted. If you don't want to sign it, sit the fuck at home and we'll get the job done without you until you want to sign something that's more of a fair deal. Yeah. I got a fun little game that we can play and then

maybe we can move on to some things that aren't Maple Leafs related, but I'm going to give you a list of things and you tell me if these things happened before or after the Leafs won their last Stanley Cup. This is good. Okay. All right.

Post-it notes were invented. I would say that those were invented, uh, past post. For people who at home, the last time the least one in the cup was 67, 67. Yeah. That's bang on. That was, that was after they won the last Stanley cup. Uh, the Rubik's cube. I would say the Rubik's cube is after they won the cup. It's also after they won the cup. Yeah. Next one. Dialing 911.

I would say that you could, I mean, we're phones. Yeah. I would say that was before. No, that was after also after they won the ATM. Oh, for sure. After that was also after the nation of the Bahamas After that's also after yeah Star Wars after also after correct and landing on the moon After also after yeah, they were all after these are all things that have happened since they won the Stanley Cup Wow, was that fun game?

That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Yeah. That, um, yeah. Leafs fans are cursed. It's much like the Boston Red Sox before they won. There's a curse of the Bambino. Um, and, and I actually thought that there was a chance, maybe there was a chance in that game. We're kind of like when the Boston Red Sox were down in game four, I, weren't, weren't they down like three, four, nothing in that game and rallied to win game four and then rattled off four straight wins. Yeah. I thought maybe at maybe when Max told me put that in for a split second, I thought there was a possibility they could come back in that game, but 45 seconds later they made it four one and, and, and then the onslaught of jerseys and beers started flooding the ice and they got booed.

Ty Domi knew when they showed him in the stands. Yeah. He was just like he didn't even think about celebrating down three one and he was just it was just steel jaw. All right. So let's go from bad to worse. So you the Maple Leafs lose you get like mocked online relentlessly. Everyone's laughing at you know and then one of your number one of your like top foes two days later gets out of jail glass bangers out of jail correct and he's going to go he's going to go to the games and see the stars the rest of the conference fun. Oh he might not. I don't know if they're going to, I don't think they're going to let him in a building. Okay. Okay. Okay. So for those of you who don't know, they've had this long time fan in Dallas who wears an all white suit and he has a cardboard cutout that says hashtag

bang. And when the play goes in the offensive zone, we're like when Dallas is there or when the play even comes near him, he's like standing up and banging on the glass and like body checking the glass. He's essentially their sixth man in on the forecheck, but he's so obnoxious and he brings like hookers to the game. So he just completely annoys everybody in his section, including the people who are sitting behind him. Like they don't want to see this guy standing up, blocking the vision and creating all this noise. And nobody likes glass bangers at hockey games. It's a faux pot. You don't bang on the glass. Like those people are the most painful, annoying people on the planet. So he apparently had a bunch of DUIs and then like didn't show up for his court date. And in December of 2024, so about what?

Six months ago, five, six months ago, he got thrown in the clink. So he was gone. Obviously he wasn't in his seats for the first two rounds. Well, I think he just got out in the last couple of days. So the Dallas stars have been rolling. They beat the Colorado Avalanche, who people, a lot of people thought

could win the Stanley Cup with the roster they had. Uh, they didn't have their top score and best defenseman in the lineup. They get through Colorado. Well, their top score comes back. Um, they still were waiting on their best defenseman while they ended up winning the last round and getting through that one, uh, against the Winnipeg jets in six games. So all of a sudden, Hey, smooth sailing, they're going to play the Edmonton Oilers, a very difficult conference finals. And then he drops the hammer today on Twitter that he's back and they get their best fan back. Holy shit. I would say best slash worst depends. I think in his own rivalry you have with him. Yeah, it's not, I'm just, I'm just fascinated by him because the Leafs have never gone against them. It's more about like, is he aware that

his own fans hate his guts? I'm sure he is aware of that. Uh, is he actually going to be in his seats come game one of the conference finals? Cause they have home mice advantage, right? Wits loving this. Like he's like, he might buy his tickets to put them in that seat because he's such a mush for them and he's more of a distraction than a than a fan including rattling all the other people who have had peace and quiet for this last six months at Dallas stars games. Yeah. So but think about the prostitutes. They're going to be happy. Oh yeah. The money train the money trains back the bartenders. I'll show your, uh, your viewers a picture of him unless you guys are able to pick it up. Uh, yeah, you can send it to me and we'll

put it in the YouTube. Yeah. Yep. Look at I'm back baby. Oh man. I just love any fans that think they matter this much. It's the best. This is what makes sports so fun. He thinks he thinks you should be paid like Mitch Marner. Yeah, right. Right. This is so all right. So let's talk about this series. Who's going to win and how is wit feeling? So I picked the oilers and then wit said, no, you can't. You're done. You're a mush stay away from my team. So then I switched my pick to Dallas and seven. I I'll be, I'll be heartbroken for either of these teams because Pete DeBoer the Dallas stars head coach He's never won a Stanley Cup. Um, he's he's been to the conference finals I want to say the last seven years guys and he's been fired in two of those years

So he went with I believe San Jose Sharks was one of them and then Vegas Golden Knights was the other one that he went with And he's just kind of been shipped around and he's found a great home in Dallas. So he's nine and oh in game sevens in playoff history. So if it does go seven, look out, he's undefeated. Um, and also Jamie, Ben, their captain who hasn't won a Stanley cup. I would put Jamie, Ben up there with like Joe Thornton, um, and the list goes on of a certain few, like Jerome McGinley, like legends who have, who have never won the big one, who you feel bad if they retire and they never got the hoist of Stanley Connor McDavid, Connor McDavid at this point, but he's only halfway through

his career. He hasn't won the big one and he's in his prime, but boy, he's like, I have a hard time betting against the oilers right now because you got Leon and Connor, the biggest dynamic duo in sports right now and the fact that they're getting secondary scoring finally. Like the the I believe that that they've gotten goals outside of Connor and Leon. I think they have 16 goals right now contributed by like they see their their like their bottom six slash roll guys and all of last year's run they only had I believe 12 or 14 so already halfway through playoffs they've outscored last year's uh role players which is

huge man because I talked about it like you're when you're like the Toronto Maple Leaf when you're paying all the top guys like it's hard because you can't just rely on a few players you really truly need everyone so uh they've been getting great contributions from everyone, but I Dallas has home ice They're a wagon. They got that Miro Hayskinen back who will be the best defenseman in that all-around defenseman in that series Evan Bouchard on Edmonton side is a lethal offensive defenseman who's been playing incredible So guys, it's it's like both of these teams could easily win a Stanley cup. Uh, but the problem is, is they're going to beat the shit out of each other. And then Florida gets to play Carolina, which I think they'll make damage of in about five or six,

and then a little bit easier of a path to get to the Stanley cup finals. In my opinion, I think everybody would agree that, that Oilers and Dallas playing each other, like those are two juggernauts going at it. So with the with the Hurricanes, you think that this is a matchup where the Panthers should dominate? So there's a few things that Carolina has on its side. They have home ice advantage. They were able to beat Washington in five games, so they do have rest. So they've been sitting there waiting at home for the Leafs and Panthers to finish the seven game series. Well, they finished Sunday. I just talked to you about how physical Florida is like they this is this could be if they make it past this round, their third straight Stanley Cup finals. So that's a lot of hockey being played boys like we're not talking about, you know, a sport with no with no contact. We're talking about one of the most physical, if not the most physical sport in the world,

especially based on the grind. 82 games and then going through playoffs every other day. So Carolina, they got great goal-tending, they have rest, they have home ice advantage, and the fact that Florida has played so much hockey, to me, I wouldn't be shocked if it goes seven games with Carolina, but I think that Florida should win this series in six, if not maybe five games. Um, yeah, that's, that's my opinion. And, and, and a lot of people have been criticizing Carolina about maybe playing boring hockey. They do compared to like boring hockey when the New Jersey devils were doing like the left wing lock and hanging out in the neutral zone and two one games like they like Carolina

goes like they might not get all these amazing Gloria Gloria scoring chances because they tend to just throw a lot of pucks towards the net maybe from non threatening positions but they're also sending guys there and then like on the forecheck like their D you're pinching like they're getting up and they swarm you. So at least it's like fast and in your face where it's that you know it's not just sitting back and necessarily extremely boring and I feel like Florida and Carolina have very similar systems in the sense that they're very aggressive with their D they're great at filtering back and like protecting like the forwards are great at supporting their defensemen who are pushing up. They both have great

goaltending. They both have extremely good penalty kills. I would give the advantage to Florida on the power play. Carolina did struggle earlier in that series against Washington. They started figuring out towards the end but Florida comes at you like so hard and then as far as Carolina's concerned, I want to say they were top one or two penalty kills all season long. And that's the case every year, year over year. So that was interesting. That was the one thing that I came away really impressed with the Hurricanes on is their penalty kill. On the penalty kill, not only do they stop you from getting shots off and

stop you from getting to the neutral zone, they also counter attack really kill on the penalty kill. Not only do they stop you from getting shots off and stop you from getting to the neutral zone. They also counter attack really well on the penalty. They get they get opportunities for short hand and goal almost every time. As a player, what makes a great penalty kill? They are just well connected. So they don't just sit back in like a little like they call it the box. Or sometimes they call it the triangle depending how the offense sets up you basically like rotate it to take away what the offense is trying to accomplish but they'll

have one guy attack where okay well then the offensive player will move it to the open guy but that next guy for Carolina knows that his guy is going so they anticipate one another so they all close on you very quick. So you have to make like two, three quick, really, really good plays in order to beat their defense where, you know, with how hard they come and how fast they pressure, it's hard like at that level to make like two, three really quick, good plays. And if you're able to accomplish that, you probably will end up getting a scoring chance. So Florida is very strong on their power play because they have good high options with guys who can shoot the puck and have bombs, but they also have really good low plays. So they have a good option everywhere in Florida, including Sam Reinhardt, who is up for one

of the best defensive forwards in the NHL. Like him and Sasha Barkov on Florida are up for the Selkie Trophy. So not only are they amazing offensive players, but they're being recognized as how good they are defensively, like Sam Reinhardt's a 50 goal scorer. So he is in their bumper position where if Kachuk doesn't like the low play, he'll hit it to hit him in the slot and boom, it's off the stick top corner. Just a lethal sniper. So I would, like I said, advantage power play for Florida, but both of them lethal, lethal penalty kills and Carolina,

they, they roll four lines and they're high energy all game long. They have six great defensemen, four great lines, so they're able to maintain that, that high pace throughout the course of the 60 minutes. Rarely do you see lulls because defensemen, four great lines. So they're able to maintain that, that high pace throughout the course of the 60 minutes. Rarely do you see lulls cause they're not just relying on the top guys all the time. They spread the ice time out very evenly as does Florida. Like Florida's got two guys, two forward sitting out that could easily be inserted in the lineup and you wouldn't even notice. And when we even blink and they could put one of those guys like Boquist on the

top line with Barkov and he would fit right in because Barkov's just that nasty. So I think that high high end superstar talent also advantage Florida but let's see if the rest and the home ice and the fact that Florida's beat up can pay dividends for Carolina because the last three times Carolina's been to the conference finals they haven't won a game they got swept by I believe they got swept by the Pittsburgh Penguins the Boston Bruins and then last time two years ago the Florida Panthers like we had the series the games were very close they were all I believe one goal games but you know they just Florida can play any way you want that's what makes them dogs oh you want to play the up-and-down game we'll play that oh you want to lock shit down we'll Florida can play any way you want. That's what makes them dogs. Oh, you want to play the up and down game?

We'll play that. Oh, you want to lock shit down? We'll lock shit down too. Oh, you want to try to be physical? Oh yeah, we'll fucking stuff you in a locker. So they are just, they're a, Florida is a well, well oiled machine. And who are the two best, most noticeable players on the ice in game seven against the Leafs?

Bradmar, Sean, Seth Jones, the two guys they make deals for at the deadline. So as far as management top to down Florida's looking good. Rank the four goalies left. Oh wow. So I would probably have to put Bob at the top Bob Ross ski because he's been there done done that. Um, he seems very dialed, like maybe not as good early in the series against, uh, Toronto, but he tends to figure things out as the series progresses. And like I said, he's just locked in right now. Guy's got a couple, a couple of Veznas Stanley Cup champion. He gets the nod.

Two, I would put Ottinger, um, up and coming USA goalt goaltender, just beat out Hellebuck, who was the starter for Team USA at the Four Nations. He's really trying to prove himself as the number one American goaltender, especially ahead of next year's Olympics. And he seems very dialed right now. And yeah, I would put him as the number two. And Freddie, I would say shared position at number two with Freddie Anderson. Freddie Anderson's with Carolina.

He's dealt with a lot of injuries, blood clots, you name it. Didn't play the whole season this year, he shared the net. But these playoffs, I think he has the best save percentage right now going in to the to the conference finals. Like he's been unbelievable as a testament to also the guys in front of him and how they play team defense. He also looks like Ed Sheeran. So there's a little fun fact. When is him?

When is him? For Halloween one year. So if you guys want to check out that costume online. And then last, I would put the Oilers goal tending. It's been shaky. Pickard went in for Stuart Skinner. Stuart Skinner got the reset and he's gotten shutouts in his back to back games in the last round against the Vegas Golden Knights. So no disrespect to him. He's an Edmonton kid. You talked about pressure of being a Toronto

kid playing in Toronto. He's been pretty vocal about like the anxiety that he deals with because of the amount of pressure playing in a Canadian market as a starting goaltender. Um, he's got the net back after Calvin Pickard kind of saved them a little bit and he's posted back to back shutouts against the Vegas gold night. So he's the fourth guy, but like last year he turned it on the later it got in the playoffs. So, and, and the bounce back from the, I mean the horrendous goal he led up for the one game that the Knights won, he then bounces back with back-to-back shutouts.

So that might be a change in his toughness, grit. He answered the bell in that. You know what, big cat? Sometimes when you're maybe playing a little too much hockey, especially as a goal tender, you get away from your fundamentals and you start being a little bit like slipping around too much, not being in position. When I was doing radio for the Phoenix Coyotes,

Rick Cogut was the head coach and we had Darcy Kemper and this year he had an incredible year with the LA Kings. He was nominated for the Vezna trophy. Um, and, uh, he was scrambling like that and they gave him like a week to reset with Corey Schwab, the goaltending coach. And then he came back and he was one of the best goaltenders the rest of the year. So sometimes as a goalie, because when you're being put out there, you have to stay focused a whole 60 minutes. Like guys are getting a change. And you know, they make a mistake while they got the defense to help them out.

Well, if the defense makes a mistake, while they got the defense to help them out. Well, if the defense makes a mistake, they got the goalie to help them out. They're the last man there. Right. Right. So sometimes they just need that mental reset, get back to their old techniques and that could pay massive, massive dividends. And I'm happy for a man that's it must be a mental grind going through a season in Canada

like that. Yeah. So are you rooting for Ryan Whitney to get Stanley Cup? Like how intolerable is he going to be? No, he's not nearly as intolerable as I am with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I actually give him full marks and full credit. And, and you know, for me, it's, it's been over 30 years now since Canada has brought home a Stanley Cup. A lot of Americans like to use that against us. I want the Americans to keep in mind these American teams are like built of 50% Canadian players on these rosters that are winning on the Stanley Cup. But I would like, especially

this season after winning four nations and you know, the USA all the barking going on and USA, I would like the cup to come back to Canada for that reason. And of course, like Connor McDavid, man, what he's done for the sport, the most electrifying hockey player we've seen since Wayne Gretzky. And just for every fiber of his being that he's put into the game and living up in Canada, I hope he wins the big one. Because just like I was happy when Ovi won the big one, right? That was something like a scarlet letter that was being used against them where, you know, he got that and then nobody ever talked about that again. He can ride off into the sunset. And

I really hope that Connor McDavid, David and Leon Dreissel are able to help them win a Stanley cup and like Edmonton, the people of Edmonton are the nicest people on the planet. Like I really want them to like, that's all they live for. Yeah That's it. I have one one question about Ovi because after seeing him in this series I had some dark thoughts about Ovi after game five. I didn't seem to really skating around that much He was kind of just getting out on the ice standing that he looked slow when he was skating Is this something should I be worried about Ovi going into next year? I think that next year, like it's the last year of his contract. I believe he signed

a three year extension a few years ago. Yeah. He said he wasn't retiring. And yeah, he's not, I figured he would come back for sure next year. I mean, why wouldn't you? He scored, what would he have 42 goals and he broke his leg and missed some games. I think he played just over 60 games so when you're on that type of heater like why would you and they have a solid team around him so it'll be enjoyable I would assume they make playoffs again next year he's just slowing

down a little bit like it's just you know the the the the what's the term father time is undefeated father time fucking rights big cat way to save me there and I think in playoffs. I think that did hurt them a little bit if I'm not lying like yeah, I think that he should have been playing around 15 minutes a game for them to be efficient and I think that he wanted to play more thinking that he could help the team But with how fast that Carolina was like they were getting exposed in that area. Like I don't think that Ovi's a 20 minute, a game guy now.

So I think that next year he will return. I think he'll be playing right where he normally plays on the power play. And I wouldn't be shocked if he scores another 30 goals, but if he continues to slow down, it's just hard in today's day and age to keep up as far as skating. And he has been vocal about wanting to go play one more year and finishing off his career in Russia. Don't know if that's still the case, but I could see him after next year, going back to the KHL and playing one more year and really having his

final swan song and goodbye. I really, really hope, and this is not a political conversation at all. Next year's Olympics, Russia's not going to be playing. It would suck because like politics out the window, it would be probably Evgeny Malkin's and Ovi's last opportunity to play in the Olympics. And there's just so much momentum for the league. And there's so many good Russian players that are now coming into the NHL. Like you had Michkov this year who was in Philadelphia, Kirill Kaprizov, like this kid is a top 10 player in the NHL no doubt worth the price of admission.

This Nikitian kid who just showed up in Carolina who I didn't mention during my breakdown with them, like they would have, like they could win a gold medal. That's how good their young guys are along with the nostalgia of having Ovi and Malcom kind of passing off the torch, as well as the fact that it probably would be Sidney Crosby's last Olympics, right? Those two guys entered the league at the same time and have carried the torch for 20 years. Like we are blessed as hockey fans at the fact that these kids lived up to every bit of hype and surpassed it like insurmountably. So to see all of, not only Russia, Canada,

the list goes on, Sweden, Finland, I think Germany is gonna be there with Leon Dreisaitl. Like it would just be so good for the sport with the momentum it has off of four nations. And would you guys not agree? Like I don't know how hardcore of hockey fans you are compared to other sports, but nothing has even came close to what the playoffs are provided in the first. Oh, it's been great. And yeah, it's the best. They're the best.

Same. Yeah. I think, I think the Stanley cup is the hardest tournament to win. It is no doubt. I think it's harder to win a Stanley Cup than NBA championship. I know it's impossible to actually measure those together. But just by the vibe of how things go and how hard these teams play, it feels like it's an absolute grinder to get to the playoffs and hockey. Buddy Florida just finished a seven game series. They went to

Toronto packed for three games and then won that game flew to Carolina and now they're playing tonight. Like you have the broadcast. So less than 48 hours, you're suiting up again for another seven game series playing every other night in these humid temperatures, Carolina, Florida. And then if they win that they got to go play another round against Edmonton or Dallas and then start on the road. Like it's, it's a fucking grind boys and agreed hockey's on a heater and I have so much respect for these players. All right. I got one last question for you, biz. We always love having you on a row back

question. R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. I want you to be honest with this question game six Leafs Panthers happens. Was there a small part of you that was like, Holy shit, oldie is my good luck charm. We're going to win it all with oldie. I thought that by the time that Toronto's run was over, there would be a statue of him outside of Scotiabank. Cause I had the same feeling. I was like, Oh my God, I think maybe this is, I think oldie may, may be able to pull this off. So the craziest part about all this.

So like, let's talk, let's talk about oldie for a second, how this all came to be. I believe during four nations, I came on your pod and you guys were talking about the stream you're going to have. And I said, we need Canadian representation. You guys kind of got the ball going on that you had about four or five people who you were considering for applicants to come in and watch it. And then Yans must've, I think he listens to every single one of your shows and he said, boys, I got to send in this oldie guy. So he put you guys in touch with this oldie and you're, you saw one second of his videos and you're like, this guy's electric. We're bringing him in. So he does what he does on your guys stream you guys hire him he becomes famous

overnight rightfully so even though he'd done a bunch of stuff for NHL guys and teams in the past so fast forward to the other day where I before he hands it came on your podcast I mentioned that I was going back to Welland Ontario for game five to go to a local watering hole to bring luck to the Leafs. So Yans was trying to figure out where I was going to go. And he said on your show, he's like, I'm going to have only buddy him up, all the buddy him up and try to get information so I could send Panthers fans to where business watching the game to fuck with their mojo. Well, all the listen to that.

And then he DM me on Twitter. Then he tried to call me on Twitter. I didn't even know you could do. He's a big FaceTime or big FaceTime loves the FaceTime. So I'm like, well, I'm going home. I said, I texted the answer said, Hey, can I get all these numbers? And I invited them down to Welland. And after just spending three hours with them, even though Toronto got shit kicked, I was like, he's like the most positive guy in the world ever. He's like, well, I said, we'll get them in six and four and so on. And then, and then Merle's texted the chat. He goes, you should send them down there. So I had my lucky shirt on me. I said,

would you go down there with my lucky shirt to bring the Leafs some mojo? Absolutely. He's got a wife, two kids. He's on the next plane down there. They, you know, takes the day off work and then does what he does behind the glass and makes friends with everybody. And I'm like, well, we got to send them to gain seven. And that didn't work at all. It was close though. Did he get kicked out? Is that what happened? I saw a cop escorting him up the steps. That was in sunrise. They couldn't handle his, his little, he calls it his pocket pussy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we're very intimately. The reason I brought up the ends coming on your show was because Yans has been rooting for the Panthers played there,

uh, still hangs around with a bunch of those guys. Like they love them there. He banged the drum with the biz idiot shirt on it, got them going for game four. Um, and then they fucking smoked the Leafs too. Uh, but he almost ruined the Panthers like their own guy created that, put it into the universe. And that's how old he came to be, at least for the Leafs in this round. So it would have been so poetic that if, if Yans would have said that and then oldie would have pulled off victories in game six and seven, and then he would have been off to the Eastern conference finals but it didn't come to be and there's one other thing I wanted to mention and I'm sure you guys talked to wit or even Yans about it is that that Miko Ratnan. Yeah, you guys been following this story? Yeah, unreal. So this is a guy who won a Stanley Cup with the

Colorado Avalanche and they were going through contract negotiations and basically they never they never gave him a final offer and said hey if you don't sign this we're gonna trade you and I believe that he would have taken eight years times 12 million in Colorado to stay well they were kind of going through the negotiations things went a little bit silent and then boom he gets blindsided goes to Carolina he didn't want to go to Carolina to begin with Carolina asked to start negotiations even before they made the move and ranting in his camp were like no we don't want to go there that's not the style of play we want to try to work

things out with Colorado they make the trade regardless he goes to Carolina he's there for three weeks obviously it's not gonna work out and they ship them to the same fucking division as Colorado and Dallas and then he goes to Carolina, he's there for three weeks. Obviously it's not going to work out and they ship them to the same fucking division as Colorado and Dallas. And then he goes on that heater that he's been on. This is the dominance that he performed over the first two rounds. As some of the likes we've, I think him and Wayne Gretzky are the only ones that had that many points in that period of time in the Stanley cup playoffs. So talk about a kick in the

Dick, but I'm so happy for him having gone through all that bullshit for whatever it was, six weeks, two months to now find a landing spot, sign an eight times 12 extension and then no state tax and then be on the heater he's on. And I would say right now he's probably the favorite for the con smite. And I just wanted to mention him before I logged off because he deserves his flowers and he's an absolute playoff beast right now. Yeah. He's been awesome. And yet you're right. The playoffs have been incredible and we love watching you. So, uh, everyone tuned in TNT, uh, biz you're the best. We'll have you back on. Sorry about the leaves. Uh, we love you, man. I love you boys. Keep doing your thing and I appreciate

you guys having me on as always. And, and thank you for not, of course, thank you to Yance for bringing oldie into our lives, but thank you for really putting them on that pedestal that he deserves and snapping the love of what is oldie around. Yeah, he's absolutely the best. Yeah, he is the best. All right. We'll see a biz. Was that the, that might've been the biggest free agency signing of like the year. Yeah, he's holding easily. He is. He is the absolute best. He has the ability to just talk anybody down. If anyone's mad at him, he becomes their best friend in about two seconds. Yeah. Two seconds. I love you boys. Thank you. As always. Go Leafs. Go baby.

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It is our Schwamm, Chris Berman. And you're probably thinking, Hey, Schwamm outside of football season, huh? Huh? Well, we wanted to have Mon because he just signed a, uh, multi-year contract extension with ESPN and it will run through 2029 when he will become the first employee at ESPN to hit the 50 year mark. So we wanted to congratulate Schwann have him on catch up. First of all, congratulations. Incredible. I think think you you last time we saw you said that we get to plan your 50 celebration the party right. Absolutely absolutely. I mean you guys are the grand show and the rock on tour. I mean

I thought we'd be really speaking. Well Toronto's not French but but at any rate, I appreciate it. I fooled them one last time, fellas. I mean, you know, you can only fool them so long, but I, you know, like I said, you read it, I started at 24. I mean, our grandfathers or my grandfather's era, maybe you work 40 or 50 years at a company, not now and not in our business. And I pinch myself. It's pretty cool. And you guys have always been so kind.

You had the imitations right out of the gate. So I appreciate it. Yeah, it really is cool because it is something that in this business specifically, you don't make it that far. You don't work 50 years at a company. You don't work 50 years in the spotlight and you've done it. And, uh, it's, it's really cool. It's, it's just a really cool accomplishment. So have you had, I mean, I know that this is the contract extension. Have you, have you had thoughts like, Hey, I got one more

in me after this one too. Just keep, keep running it. I want to see you keep going. I mean, look, I'll be 75 when this is over. Let's hope I have, you know, no word of, well, let's just hope 75 is an easy accomplishment and we'll go from there. But look, I never thought of 50. I think we might've talked about this. I don't remember at the Super Bowl, I don't think so. I never thought of it. Okay, ESPN was very kind, 45 years, they made a deal of it. Now I was, you know, my God, I'm looking myself in the mirror, is this really you?

45 years, same place. And I was asked a couple of times, so do you want to make it to 50? And I never, that was never a goal, fellas. I mean, that's not, I mean, I'm not in my wildest dreams. And you'd hope to be in the business 30 years, let alone the same place 50, right?

So I started thinking about it and I brought it to our, our president's attention, not in negotiation or anything, but in the fall he goes, oh, you know, you got, you gotta be here through our first Superbowl in two years. I said, well, I hope so. I love to be. I guess that's up to you, wouldn't it Jimmy? He goes, yeah, I guess it is. So I just told you. And I went, you know, it will be cool. Not because it's me, but you may, we may never have a 50 year employee again. I mean, we probably will. I mean, in engineering or a lot of different departments, but 50 years, you got to start young, right?

So what are the odds of even starting in your 20s and being still hopefully very good at your job? I'm not saying I am, but let's say an engineer is in his or her 70s. So yeah, I'm not, one more. I haven't gotten this one done yet. Yeah. Yeah. Let's reconvene after the party. Then we all may be hurting a little bit. Yeah. I think that would be an all time record that would probably stand for forever. Yeah. And you put it in perspective, we've been doing this show for 10 years. Imagine doing this five times.

Like not even 10 years yet for us, but imagine doing this five times as much as we've done it. It's a testament to you. It's a testament to the people that you've worked with, but like you have been a mainstay, I think for a lot of people's sports childhoods all the way up through adulthoods. And so we're glad that we're going to see there. It would be weird if you went somewhere else. Did that thought ever occur to you? Was it going to be ESPN or nowhere? Or were you thinking like, Hey, maybe I could join, maybe I joined Barstool Sports. Well, you never know there's time for everything. But, but to be honest, no, I, cause my guy said, you know, if this gets tricky, which it wasn't. Are you interested in that? Absolutely not.

If you read my bio, of course everything changes, but I mean this was written really 30 years ago fellas, or 25 years ago, and unfortunately a lot of the people in the quote in my bio have passed. I said I want to be Walter Payton, for example. I want to be Tony Gwynne, who we've lost. George Brett, maybe now more modern terms, you know, a Derek Jeter, maybe a, you know, someone that started and finished with my very first job, and really for all intents and purposes it was, someone that started and finished with the same ball club. I mean, it's now I know where I wouldn't. You know, I, I thought of Franco Harris carrying the ball as a Seahawk. Um, I thought of Tony Dorsey and Tony and I have laughed about it.

That's Franco, another one we've missed. And he and I have laughed about it too. Tony Dorsey said his final year was a Bronco. Like I know some of them are fine but that was like the last year. So this is my last. No. No I couldn't. Yeah. It's hard. No thank you. Emmett Smith on the Cardinals always whenever that pops up, I'm like, Whoa, I forgot about that. All right. So, so you were definitely saying with the SPN this time, uh, what was the closest you ever got to maybe leaving in your 50 years? Because I'm sure now that you've, you've stayed, you can laugh about it, but was there a moment and do you remember that moment of like, Oh, well these people, I don't know. We've got to see what happens.

Well, I guess once you turn 70, you can give some secrets up, right? Exactly. So we're good now. Um, well, one I've talked about, but that was a different time. So the real time was 10 years in and started in 79, 89. The ESPN and even cable, the cable was big by then, but ESPN was different, okay? So basically, I'll try to boil it down.

NBC, Dick Ebersole, inquired, would you like to come over? Well, I mean, I, you know, my contracts running up in a little bit. They essentially offer me times four. Now let's not get carried away. This isn't just 1989 cable TV. To be honest with you, I wasn't, you know, 160,000 maybe. Okay, so this isn't all 20 million versus 10 million. To be honest with you, I wasn't a, you know, I was 160,000 maybe.

Okay, so this isn't all 20 million versus 10 million. I mean, I've never gotten to those, Norm, which I think, I mean, so this is a different time for our company, which is fair. But actually, there's another story I will tell you right before this, too, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of it. But get back to this. You know, and Bob Costas was doing their football show at the time, so that wasn't open. They said it was going to be soon, but that wasn't open and I was already doing it. Admittedly just two years at ESPN, 87,, when we got the NFL, and the prime time had started. We didn't have baseball yet. So it was interesting.

And I went to our guys, Steve Bornstein wasn't the president, he was about to be, but he and I really, I said, Steve, I went to Brown, it's times four, I can add. Yep. Because I can too, I said, so we've not broken the mold, not only on somebody out there, but really anyone, let's say high up in programming or any,

I know this is a tough decision, but and it inched along for a little bit for a couple months, never rough, never nasty, I mean. And I finally said to him, I said, Steve, you're not a golfer, but you got to get to within a nine iron. And I don't know what that means. And I want to stay. And he, I said, I will tell you one other thing. And maybe I oh, I'm telling stuff I shouldn't. I reached a little farther. And I said, the company may be watching this one. Not because I'm so good. But where we've gone where we've come. If I go in there, the top

in their area, while they're not going to help me out either, if something, yeah, he actually no, no, to give Steve and there's a And they're the top in their area. Well, they're not gonna help me out either if something yeah he actually no no to give Steve and there's a actually he said thank you for saying that and Within another week we had he got within an iron iron and in the end Look the beauty about one of the many beauty bit things is saying at ESPN was 10 years like you guys you built something from the ground up There's a lot to be said for that. It wasn't only me, but we built brick and mortar from the ground up a

Lot of us names. You'll never know for sports Like you guys get to talk golf hockey NBA College want to talk darts hockey, NBA, college, wanna talk darts on this show for 10 minutes, you could. We cover everything. Now we may not have the Super Bowl or the World Series or US Open Golf, but I got to go to all of them, cover them all.

Well, or talk about them on the air every day. So if you love sports, there was that part. Why would you wanna leave? Now, to fast forward where I didn't think I'd be going in this story, bringing up Steve's name, when it was announced a week ago, I heard from him right away. I mean, he's long been out.

George Bodenheimer, I heard from George, those two guys were president, ended up maybe 22 of the 45 years. That's the kind of place we had. My release at the time, the press release said it was a Brian Adams decision. It was straight from the heart. And I couldn't go. I couldn't go. I couldn't and it was the best move I never made,

even though more money, bigger at the time, but was it? You know, that's not a knock on NBC, of course. It just, I live, I'm from here. You know, so I want to live in New York City. I didn't necessarily want to do that. Young kids. Now, one other interesting story that I rarely bring up, rarely. This is a year before. It sounds like I'm looking to leave. I'm not. But I'm like this from 85 to 89. I'm like this. Okay.

And the ESPN was like this more importantly. So I'm a San Francisco giant fan as you know, above everything, even though I grew up Northeast. Willie Mays, seven years old, in the World Series, he's a giant. I'm a little kid, Giants, that's my team. The owner of the Giants then, Bob Laurie, great San Franciscan. The owner of the Giants then, Bob Lurie. Great San Franciscan. I got a call from him. I got to know them a little bit. I'm going on here, but this is a story I rarely tell. I got a call from his office. I'm so and so. I'm Mr. Lurie's assistant. When the Giants are playing the Mets late in May, he'd like to have lunch with you at the 21 Club. Now, I mean, what, first of all, the 21 Club, my club is McDonald's, okay?

So what can you get for 21 bucks in 1988 at McDonald's? Hell, meals for a week. So we meet and there's nothing, you know, oh my God, I mean, young guy take the train in, a couple hours, we meet and he goes, well, up till now most teams, the announcers are hired by the station they work for. But just about a year or two before that, teams were hiring the main guy or woman, but let's just say guy at the time, was a team employee. I don't know when that happened in Chicago with Harry or with Jack Buck.

I don't know, but it was starting, but only like one. He goes, next year we're going to hire. It's going to be our hire. We think you'd be a great San Francisco Giants play by play guy. Oh, man. Well, I've not done it other than Brown baseball, all right? But it was one of my goals to do the Giants. Right.

And I told him, I said, well, we just got football, and I'm kind of that guy. We didn't have baseball yet again. And I said, but this is, and it would have been a salary increase at that guy. We didn't have baseball yet again. And I said, but this is and it would have been a salary increase at that time. Oh God, yes. Not times four, but times two, maybe never discussed. Moved to the Bay Area, which I love from afar. Young kid family, I'd be hired by them. Hmm. He goes, well, think about it. You call me in a day or two.

So I did. And I said, Mr. Laurie, I can't believe I'm telling you this. When my life dream, but I'm going to have to turn it down. And here's what he said. So what good guy he was. He is. After what you told me yesterday about ESPN, about the NFL, and you're the host, you're Brent Musburger,

you made the right decision. That's the guy who offered me the job. So that's 88 and 89. Since then I'm a Taurus, I'm stubborn, I ain't leaving. But your agent loves to hear that. Yeah. That's crazy though. I mean, that's a doubt must've been very difficult to turn down because calling baseball games for favorite team. That would be incredible. Yes. Yeah. And Bay area, not even a, I like the team, but do I know I San Francisco to me, I know they've had after COVID more

trouble than many other cities, but that's not the discussion. My favorite city. Yeah. Even though I grew up 2,500 miles away from so, but again, I was smart then he said it. And by not leaving the S band,band look we're having this discussion today Yeah, I probably would have been neat. I would have been neither place In 2025 that's for damn sure that's true. You built that place that place also shaped you So it's that's got to be tough to what I think it's been a great fit

I'm very glad there you stick around it would be weird to see you if you just popped up on like Fox Sports one day, like NFL. It would look so weird. It would look really, really strange. I saw that the MLB All-Star game in 2029, they have not announced who's got the TV rights to it. If that's ESPN, can we please get you doing the Home Run Derby? Well, I guess we have one more year before losing it. Nah, I mean, yeah, okay. Wait, I'm in. If they'll have me. Okay. Yeah.

I'm still signed. I mean, yeah, there you go. We'll have our 50th party at the Home Run Derby. How about that? That sounds perfect to me. Yeah. When I think back of all the years of you on ESPN, I also think of the Sports Center commercials. This is Sports Center commercials.

This is Sports Center commercial. Do you have a list of your favorite ones? Well, you know, those ads were great. I was never in them because by the time they were doing all those, I was, well, still doing plenty of Sports Center. Charlie Steiner, welcome to freedom, or send me to freedom with the headband. Yeah, the Y2K one.

Yep, yep. Yeah, that was a pretty good one. There are a ton of them. It's funny. So I really was never, if I was in one, it was like one of the first ones when they weren't great yet. The football ones, to be honest,

other than Bristol University, which was funny. I mean, they were funny. We the ones I was in weren't of the same caliber as the Sports Center. I don't mind. Again, I'm 70. I can say whatever the hell I want. Yeah. Hell yeah, you can.

I'm not even senile and I could say. Not yet. Yeah. Hell yeah, you can. I'm not even senile and I could say. Now, yeah, I might be for our, in five years, but what were your favorites? I mean, you remember probably more of them than I do. I mean, that one was actually, I think my favorite, the Y2K scare. I liked the Don't Walk, the PSA that you guys did for NBA players to stop traveling. That was a great one. The Crocodile Hunter, where he sees the Florida Gator and wrestles him to the ground. And then my homerism, I like when

Ovi and I think it was Alexander Simmons lowered through the ceiling, like they were in Mission Impossible, like Russian spies. I like the LT one where he was wearing his visor trying to sort the mail. Yeah. I gotta say, they were sharp. They were, and they, and everyone related to it and that players and those in sports bought into them. Yeah. But the great ones I wasn't in, that's probably why they were great. I wasn't in them. What a, so, so it is off season right now. How's the golf game? Um, in and out, you know, you struggle with, okay, 65, you were still hitting the ball,

not far, let's not get carried away, but far enough. You know, it's, yeah, you really got to move up to not the golds yet, but that you got to, you play in the high bourbon, and now you're the white because, and so you end up hitting the ball off the tee, and you say to yourself honestly, once you get over a macho thing, this is where I used to hit. It's okay. I mean, I played yesterday, it was pretty good, played the day before, it was pretty good. Played the day before was pretty mediocre.

Yeah. So I'm a usual 14 that an occasion you want and on other occasions you wish you never knew me. How about you guys? You never get to play, right? Yeah. We play on camera a lot. Uh, we're bad. We're our, our, our Hank, our producer plays all the time. He plays every single day. Uh, so, but he's also still bad, which is crazy. Yeah. I mean, you have to get to a point where you play all the time if you want to be good at golf. It's not something you can like parachute in and out of. Right. Um, but yeah, on a good day, I think we'll probably shoot in the nineties, uh, on Hank's good day, he'll shoot in the eighties. On Hank's good day, he'll shoot

in the eighties. What's your best round ever? I don't think I ever broke 80. Maybe 81. That's a while ago. Here's the thing. I did look up the chart. If you get to 70 in the United States, average life expectancy, male 85, female 87. I have a shot to hit my eight. Yes. There you go. Yes. I will tell you this though.

I played in the pro am in New Orleans. You remember I did once upon a time with the, with your guy down there. Um, so I'd never met Andrew Novak and Ben Griffin. We played with them. They want media day the next week. Travelers, which I've done forever, right? Interviewed. It's kind of Shaffer. Byron Nelson that week. We just saw the PGA. It ain't my game, but how's my game influencing others? Yeah. Not bad right. Yeah. What do you think. We threw this out there on today's show but do you think there's a chance Scotty

could could could creep up into that. Hey we're talking about him verse Tiger at some point because it does feel we were joking. He feels like he's 40 years old because he just has the look of not in a bad way but he just looks like he's always looked a lot more put together than everyone else. He's 28 and he's won his third in 22 starts in the majors. It feels like he's going to be, you know, in the next five years, what would you like call it? You know, he wins, you know, five more in the next five years. He's now at eight and it's like, Ooh, now we're starting to talk about this. Well, let's see how many tour wins again. He's only he's done them all really the last few years, right? He had not, I think seven on tour, but nine. Oh,

by the way, the gold medal. Um, and now here's two more. I mean, here's of them of the current day or the last 20 years. It's really, does he approach Phil? Yeah. Where do we put Rory? the We have Rory Hay, he's back. He wins the players. He wins the Masters. He's playing the open, the British Open at Port Rush home game. Um, Oakmont is the hardest course I've ever seen. So you better be really good if you plan to win there, by the way. I don't know if you guys have ever been, but of all the media day courses by about the eighth hole, you can't wait to get back to your community. Okay. So what an interesting setup.

Here's one thing about Scott. So you don't want to go to Tiger yet because geez, do we talk about Tiger and Jack? This was a little early even in Tiger's run to go Jack, but where are you going? You see Arnie, right? So he's still underappreciated. I know. Not only after the PGA, okay? But here's an observation that I thought of knowing I was going to talk to you guys today and then the PGA would come up. He won the Travelers last year, one of his seven, like I said, I think he won nine worldwide, President's Cup and gold, et cetera.

For the Travelers, you might remember, you know, signature event, we had the little thing on 18, but that's not the point. And he got in a playoff with Tom Kim, friend, and Batia was also in the last threesome, was in it, but by then not really, but close. And I'm looking at these three guys because the Travelers here in Hartford,

I do the trophy honors afterwards, so I'm dialed in there. And here's Scottie at six foot three. Now we have a playoff with the two of them, with Kim and Scottie. Here's Scotty at six foot three. Now we have a playoff with the two of them with Kim and Scotty. Here's Scotty at six foot three. Here's Kim short, which by the way, golfers come in all shapes and sizes. Look at the three of us, it's proof. But Tia, the next stiff wind is going to blow them into the sand and I'm not knocking them. I mean, my God, I'd like to be that skinned, right?

Yeah. But, um, by the way, you could really have fun with, but the idea, that's all folks, but nevermind. It's actually debut right here. That's a great one. Nevermind. Um, well, bug's funny. Um, can't believe I said that at any rate. Then Kim goes in the bunker. So Scotty has a two-putt to win with no sweat, just trying to look down, kind of like this bogey up by 501 by 4, but who cares, right? And I'm thinking, this is like the old movies where there was a pie fight, or a lot of gun duel,

and the knight in white armor is standing unscathed and everyone else goes down one by one and as I'm watching yesterday or at this time when we're taping it oh is Lee he's tied with Rom or you know here Bryson and here's maybe one of the other two then all of a sudden he wins by four anyway. It's like he's, this stuff's flying around and he's there like no, Bollina can hit me. No pie is gonna dirty this nice white suit. And I know that seems crazy, but being at the event unlike yesterday when I watched

like you, TV, I was like this guy, wow, it's just something about his demeanor. He's not the tiger was tiger. I mean, we don't have to go to Jack and R. I mean, we know what they were. Phil flamboyant, but the way he played, the shots he invented, et cetera. Scotty, Rory bombs it.

Does Scotty hit it just about as long? Probably not, I don't know that. But maybe not quite as, Rory's unbelievable, right? But so Scottie, name what he does unbelievably better than anyone else except everything. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's not, this is him.

Here's Swashbuckling, here's, he's so impervious to, oh my God, he's going to lose this. No, he's not. It's unbelievable how he does it, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It really is. He makes it look easy. One of the, one of the craziest stats that I saw this week was that, uh, Scotty Scheffler, he's uh, right now, I think,ty Scheffler, he's right now,

I think, how long is this that he's been ranked number one 82nd, 82nd consecutive week being ranked number one in the world to bring it up to a total of 116 weeks, 116 weeks is what Scottie Scheffler has been ranked number one at Tiger Woods has 683 weeks. number one at Tiger Woods has 683 weeks. Sure. So he would need to be ranked number one in the world every week for the next, what, 10 plus years to catch what Tiger did.

Right. Just unbelievable. It's crazy. But conversely, how many are in the hundreds? Admittedly, they didn't have, you know, when, when even Nicholas and Palmer, I don't know that they had that then they certainly didn't when if Byron Nelson, just to pick up a name or Sam Steedle one more than anybody else played.

So but how many are in the hundreds? Not many. Yeah, yeah, I think Tigers got the number one and number two all time rankings for the longest streaks being ranked number one. It's crazy. It's absolutely insane to think about. Yeah. Greg Norman might be a name that I don't know about a hundred.

We'd have to look it up. Interesting. Yeah. Norman got up to 96 weeks. Okay. I believe. Yeah. So yeah, pretty close.

And so one thing we love about you is you're you're such a football fan, even though it's the offseason. I know that you've been thinking about football through the draft, through free agency, through the schedules coming out for next season. What are you thinking about the most? What are you looking forward to the most in the 2025 football season? That's a good, you know, here we are. It's not any of the, you know, last year we had all the quarterbacks picked at the top and you're wearing a Doug Williams shirt, so obviously you're a quarterback. Now you're, Washington is on eight million times on

primetime, whereas the year before is, why are they on? Right? What am I looking forward to the most? I mean, what Philly did, it was pretty darn strong. I mean, that was, I mean, we don't even need to rehash it. That was, from the beginning, it was, whoa, okay, this is going to be trouble for the Chiefs. However, all right, you know what, I'll give you one. It's kind of obvious, but is this year year Buffalo somehow avoids Kansas City in the playoffs? I don't know what that means.

It means someone would have to lose or somebody, I don't hope nobody gets hurt. I eat Josh, I Patrick, et cetera, but somehow they don't meet. And then how does that flush out? By the way, I only thought of it today, not even though the Eagles are the champs. God, and they play week two, right? At Kansas City, right out of the gates. Yep.

Which I don't know what that'll decide, not a lot. The Chief, you know, the Bills are the only team, it sounds like all I'm worried about is Buffalo, I'm not. The Bills are the only team to get the four in a row. Admittedly, they didn't win any of them. The Chiefs could get the four in a row, even though they didn't win last year and we were trying to win three in a row now. Yeah. Philly could get the three out of four.

Yeah. As we discussed last year, that's a short list, getting to three out of four. So, but then who are the Washingtons this year? Man, I don't know. What do you guys think? Who are, I mean, it's hard in May to say, well, I'm just telling you, Atlanta with Pennix, for example,

I'm not saying that's a team. Like, what are the teams that are, are the Rams much better? I mean, they came every time in the playoffs, they're a tough out, are they better? I mean, they gave every time in the playoffs, they're a tough out. They better. I'm talking about a team. Of course, Washington was not on the playoff Raider. What's that team? Cause we know like five or six of them don't go back to the playoffs. So who's that?

Oh, I've got a, uh, I've got an answer. It's kind of a cheap answer, but the 49ers, yeah, they might get healthy. if they say healthy this year. I wouldn't bet against them making the playoffs. Yeah. I got an answer. That's a little, I'm still working on it. I think the giants are going to be better than people think and I don't know what's going to happen with Jackson Dart, but like Brian Dable, good quarterback coach, if you can get just enough, I think that defense is going to be elite. Their defensive line has just monsters on it. So I think they might be one of those teams where, you know, maybe they're not playoffs, but they're, you know, go jump up to seven, eight, nine wins. And it's like, Ooh, look, they're, they're not, you look at the schedule

this time of year and you're like, all right, that's a win. That's a win. I don't think the giants are going to be a a that's a win team. Well, I think you're right. Um, of course now we think Dallas healthy quarterback along with Philly and Washington. Yeah. Like that's a tough climb with those six games. Absolutely. And they go two and four. That would be a win for, for what you just said. Who else, you know, is there room to move? Well, we know the NFC is tougher and overall, right? Because obviously the central, I still call it the Norris division. The Bears lost a lot of games, they're going to be better, but the other three teams are also going to be good. The Detroit's going to be them. Green Bay is going to be good. Yeah. Detroit's going to be them. Green Bay is going to be good.

Very good again. So hard to move. So the Bears have a much better record. Again, they got to play those teams. The West is, I agree with San Francisco, they either miss the playoffs or they get to at least the championship game. Yeah. Yeah.

They're going to be good. The Rams are going to be good. Don't overlook Seattle, Arizona. I don't know, but let's just say two and a half teams in that division. South. Well, that's the opening, right? Like could, but it won't be. It's a little early for the Panther.

You, you know what I'm saying? So, so, so in the AFC, where Miami fell, and the Jets fell, and will they be back or back the Jets? Will Miami be bad or, or can the Patriots move like the Giants to your point? Seven and 10, eight, nine. We still don't know who Pittsburgh's quarterback is in that division. We think the Bengals won't start out one and four or whatever the hell they always do. The Browns, I mean, I... Sad. Good luck.

A lot of quarterback. Yeah. He's a good coach. He got a coach with one hand tied behind his back, Kevin. Very good coach. Yeah. You know, we know Baltimore, we haven't brought them up as usual, right? I actually looked at knowing I was doing this show and again, analyze the schedules. I kind of just looked at the upper echelon off of last year.

I looked at Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, just real quick, like a half hour ago. It seems like Baltimore's schedule is they play the good teams on the road. The others have more of the good teams at home. Again, that doesn't ensure anything, but they're going to be formidable. At what point does is this a year for Lamar? But again, it all depends on the Chiefs. But somehow the Chiefs and the Bills will miss each other in the playoffs. What does that mean? I like that. I like that as a Bills fan, you're thinking, okay, well, we've tried to take the bad man

out. It hasn't worked for us. Maybe somebody else just does it for us. Maybe Lamar gets, maybe Lamar elevates his game becomes a playoff quarterback. And then we don't have to worry about Patrick Mahomes. That would be a better formula. Could be something else where the Bengals just beat the Chiefs, which they have. Right? So I bet against the Chiefs would be foolish too. I'm not going to claim the bills will

get there because they won't play the chief. That's why we talk about it in May. Yeah. Even talking about it has me. Yeah. Even talking about it has, it has me juiced up just football in May. All right. I, I Schwab, I got one last question for you. And again, congratulations. We love you and it's awesome. And we're, we're so pumped for you to be able to still get to watch you for another five years here. My last question row back question R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code take. My last question is this in the off season do you ever catch yourself? Maybe it's in the shower, maybe

it's in the car, just throwing a quick just to make sure you still got it. Cause you're like, I don't know. I haven't done it in a few months. Do I still have it? Just to do you just test to make sure that it's still there. That's a better question than you think. And I'll tell you why. Because I do go to Hawaii after the Super Bowl. I live there part-time. I mean, you know, I go about eight weeks, whatever, and I don't do the draft. The first time I even put a tie on from the Super Bowls, how do you tie this?

So week one, I do the Hall of Fame at Canton, so that's a different deal. But other than showing up at the ESPYs, I kind of started Canton the way it is now, the way it's been the last eight, nine years primarily. The ESPY needs me for something. I'm here, some big football matter, can you come in in two hours? Yes, I'll be in. But week one, there's why it's this really intelligent question. Intelligent question, yeah.

Well, I know I'm really stepping out now, right? But week one, that's when I know how to do it. We know how to drive a car. It's not all of a sudden a stick shift that you rented in Europe and it's like find them grind them. Week one you go in it's like, do I? Did I bring my little earpiece? Did I remember to bring my three or four times? Because I always am a game time decision by the way. I always bring three or four and decide about 20 minutes before

we go on. Okay that's the one tonight. You gotta have a game time decision. I have a little butterflies not nervous but it's not so much texting the whoop although I might drink grapefruit juice week one but better for the throat than orange juice in the morning, okay? It's been a little better. A little citric acid action. So I don't practice the whoop in the shower in the car, I blast music. To quote, I remember Joe Torre telling me this, and it's kind of the answer. And at that point when he was managing, but he told me how many opening days it was. I had that opening day a few times, you know. And I went, Joe, it's opening day. You've been as a player and as a manager, whatever the number was,

35, whatever it was. It was Boomer. I don't care who you are. If you don't have a couple of butterflies in your stomach on opening day, there's something wrong with you. And I never forgot that. It's not, can I speak? It's not, can I tie a tie? It's not, he could go all the way up, probably come up with it, but it's week one. It ain't as good as you thought you were because you haven't been doing it lately. Yeah. You got this every day or two. I used to be on the air every day. Didn't make me good, but it made me, I just did this yesterday.

I mean, I do. What's the problem? Right. Um, well, the problem is you haven't done it for six months. So there are some days that, okay, week one, let's give them everything we got in the garage. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe you haven't checked some of the toys out lately. Right? Yeah.

Probably not. We might give you a batilla batilla, that's all folks, but we might give you 12 of them. Right. But I, you know, and you'll see if and when you ever get to the point where you're still 12 of them. Right. But I, you know, and you'll see when, if and when you ever get to the point where you're still a regular, but for whatever reason, I know you can't imagine not doing this every day and neither can your, your fans, but butterflies opening day, Joe Torre, who would know better than him.

Right? It's a privilege. It's a privilege. Yeah privilege to feel those butterflies Yeah, I got one last one for you boom because Every year we have you know when we do our recaps of the games as a tribute to you We talked about Jamis Winston and when we bring up Jamis wins his name We put him in the Eagles song we put him and take it easy Stand on the corner Jamis Winston Cuyahoga is what it was last year on the Browns. Now he's on the Giants. So we had a couple ideas.

We want to get your feedback or maybe you've got something else. We're thinking, standing on the corner, Jamis Winston down in Soho or standing on the corner, Jamis Winston and Hoboken. Hoboken. Well, there's a there's a. There's a thought. Yeah. Hoboken. So I go to Warren's Yvonne, there's a there's a thought uh... hoboken so i go to warren's eve on which before your time really or where was of one to them

it's a different so what's a one that sold so that put me off the track for a minute what either works as you want to represent new york and i think it's funny james i know we did you love them on your show i I ran into him in New Orleans in dinner and eating the next table and we had a couple of chuckles and I told you we love him and I know you you've got to know him he's so enjoyable but not a but. He's one of the most

exciting players in the league and here's why I think we've talked about it maybe off the year. Bill Walsh once described Steve Deberg, not a bad quarterback, and I take this to Jamis, giving Bill Walsh credit. He keeps both teams in the game. I mean, that's as a, he's must see. I mean, I don't know the Giants. I don't know what they're, I mean, the rookie and two vets, like who knows how that plays out, right? Is that a trade? I don't know. Yeah. They might know, but it's her August 10th.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I think he would probably be one of the first calls if you have a starter that goes down, at least I hope he would. Yeah. I mean, I, when you think they, I mean, they gotta go Russell. I mean, what, I mean, how do we think the giant start to your quarterback? Not the rookie yet.

I think it's probably going to go Russell Wilson. I would think so. But if it's a, if it's a truly open competition, it could be Jamis. Yeah. Should be Jamis. Well, unless Sierra things in actual anthem. That's true. That's true. So what I'm hearing from you is, is J stand on the corner. Jamis, Winston Hoboken, such a fine sight to see. I like that. You like that? Yeah. Hoboken you're going, I think so. Unless you, you know what, if you think of one, you text us standing on the court, Hoboken making an Eagle song is a pretty good left-hand turn.

It's a flat-bed Ford that has a flat. Which reminds me of, again, the poor fumble by Joe Pasarchick, Herm Edwards, the miracle of the metal lands. Not far from Hoboken instead of Broadway, Joe port, poor Joe Prisac. They call them Patterson plank, Joe, you know, like, yeah. Yeah. But Hoboken is a ring to it. Yeah. It'd be the only one including that in a song. Okay. I like it. All right. We'll continue. Yeah. Yeah. Can you will continue to consider? Yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll throw any other ideas we have

off you. Um, Trom, you're the best though. We love you and thank you for coming on and congrats again. Very well deserved. Uh, and we can't wait for the, for the 50th party. We're going to be there no matter what. Well, maybe we'll join in the middle of the year or something. We hope we know we got the end of the year whatever you want. Yeah. I can't wait to hear what you come up with in your Monday morning. I tell you if it's great it's on TV and I give full credit. All right. Well thanks so much. We'll talk to you later. All right guys. Have a great spring and summer work on the golf when you can sneak it in. Yes. All right. Sounds good. Thanks, Boom Okay before we get to FAQ Stella blue the weather's heating up so stay cool with Stella blue cold brew whether you love a bold dark

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packets in water put it in your refrigerator you got cold brew all week long so go right now and buy some cold brew Hank Dan those shoes look small small yeah black shoes always look small slimming Those shoes look small. Small? Yeah, black shoes always look small. Slimming. Your shoes look small. Ten and a half. Yeah. Not the biggest, not the smallest.

Same. When I was younger, my brother was a size 12 and I had tried to convince myself for like a couple years. Walk around with clown shoes. You white socks, Steve. Yeah. Yeah. FAQs.

Hey there, men and loser Henry That's mean bad start Hank. How are you doing now that we're a few days removed? I'm fine It you know it gets easier as time passes, but You know once the east finals like the conference finals started will probably be sad. Yeah games. You don't sound fine No, I'm fine. You're on the golf You're on the golf we talk I'm always like I've never been off of golf, right? But you're on the golf beer on to go less distractions sure, but yeah I mean like I will be watching the same amount of ball and playing the same amount of golf

Would you say there's less distractions from your distraction so you can focus on your distraction? That's the thing as I said I realized it's really not true. Like I will, I will, I will watch every game and I will play the same amount of golf. So in that sense. But maybe there's a, maybe there's a Easter conference final game that starts at 7pm and you're like, man, I'm having the round of my life. Now you don't have to go home and be home at 7pm. Yeah. To watch the first half from the clubhouse.

Yeah. Love that for you. Whatever. No, you don't. I do love that you get love to golf. Thank you. I love you for loving that. I love to go. Wow. Love fest. I love love. We talked about that. What is your I've reached a summit moment in your life, something you are hoping to achieve or have already achieved. Love you all and thank you. Oh,

I mean, I don't want to say something that I've already done because that implies that it's all downhill from here. You've peaked. But it probably is. Like I'm 40. I'm a man. Yeah. I mean, I had no right being on the duck boat and I didn't deserve it. I didn't like, it wasn't like an achievement that I worked hard and reached that goal, but it was that that was it. Now don't tell yourself. It will be all downhill from there And that's alright. I think parcel getting purchased

Was definitely there buying a house. It was late to buying a house But bought a house getting a house is cool. That was very cool playing free bird Playing the free bird solo. That's very that's gonna be something that I've worked for I mean on stage with my brother It was a pretty cool moment. Yeah Go into the sphere Kind of reach that summit big time Stanley Cup winning night in Vegas with the cup is that's a tough one to beat. Yeah Yeah

Being anywhere near the Stanley Cup is pretty fucking sweet. Yeah Has it you think anyone's ever fucked the cup? The cup has watched someone fuck. Oh, I'd say like hundreds of people. Yeah. Yeah Max what's your summit? Max turning 30 this weekend. Yep, so huge party with the Eagles after Super Bowl Yeah, the Mount Joy concert was was a big like what what am I doing here? That was pretty fun Yeah, they have a new album coming out this weekend My summit was John summit when he was on part of my job. I guess I'm just a bigger John summit fan than you max

Big cat love Williams fan PF caps shank If we see an AWL in the wild what's our calling card? What do we say to ignore? Oh, we don't say anymore. We don't say anymore Just so what's up? Also, I want to compliment the the AWL is out there because there were a lot of them at the caps game all very well-behaved I was around my mom not one person said the thing that we don't say anymore. Mm-hmm, and I appreciate yeah They've done a really good job of like whether it be, yeah, long time ago, but like the Max Homa pervert stuff, we were able to stop that. Like good job. You could, you know

what you could say, do you think memes will ever get it? That's a good one. And then the other guy says, no, no chance. No way will he ever get it. That's a good one. Yeah. That's the inside, you know, baseball, like, oh, memes won't get it or just say hey, what's up pug yeah a Bunch of my friends are starting to listen and to really enjoy PMT They can't understand the booth and we my AWO friends try to explain to them that it used to just be Hank But then they asked what he does in, which is funny to try and explain. They get max and memes, but they don't understand Shane slash pug. They think they are the same person. Hmm. Very different people. Uh, pug does the YouTube edits. Shane creates incredible a's

in the graphics department. No chain does our graphics. Pug does our YouTube memes and Max obviously are in here while we're recording. Jack wiper is our new guy. He harasses us for ads. And Hank does a lot. I don't I don't want I don't want people to be selling Hank. I don't know where they get the idea that all that does is go from I really don't. I know it's crazy. It's like a narrative that's run away. It's crazy. Yeah, Hank weird. We're playing Friday ranks my most trusted guy. He's 10 to 11 time. He's got a Hanks and ideas guy He's got the pulse of the nation just working behind the scenes It's one of those things you don't want to have it defined because then right because then someone might be like hey You're not doing much Moving silence I take care of business.

But yes there was a long time where Hank was the sole proprietor of the booth. He was doing it all. I miss it sometimes. No you don't. So then go do it. Do it for Max and memes. I did. I did. I added the Super Bowl a couple years ago. Our sound guy fucked me. That's true. A couple years ago. I would. I Would I mean first time the Eagles were Not the first time but chiefs the first chiefs Eagles. Why don't you do? Yeah? Why don't you why don't you do it was just way just one random time just like hey? You know what I got it tonight boys get out of here I would actually like to ask him have to ask a million questions give him you've learned the ability to do it

Are you've lost the ability to do it no, but there's just more a back end and and I don't know I Can figure if yeah if I if I had to if the booth disappeared I could make it work I'm yet. I'd like to give you the keys to the socials for like three days Hank weekend Hank early week Hank Monday nobody is crazy cuz I'm like, because even- And like just the Twitter. The beginning of the podcast, we didn't have YouTube. We didn't have a video for a lot of our interviews. Now we've gotten a full team, and the guys are awesome.

They like keep it running. Like when we leave on a Sunday night, after a football Sunday, we leave at like midnight or one o'clock, They're here till five in the morning. So shout out those guys. Hey guys, was wondering since you are the number one sports podcast and have so many people listen, do you ever think about the amount of famous people such athletes that listen to the

show? And their reactions to the things you say? I feel like the idea of a pro athlete laughing along while listening to you guys troll each other or hear you guys talk shit about one of their teammates has got to be pretty surreal Yes, the teammate part. I sometimes think about like when we're really when we're getting deep into it and we're laying into somebody and they're like Laughing at it and they have to stop themselves because they're like, oh shit. That's actually my good friend and teammate. They're making fun Yeah, I just have more of like when someone says they listen like when we had Pablo Torre on he's like, yeah I really smile of. Yeah. I just have more of like, when someone says they listen, like when we had Pablo Torre on and he's like, yeah, smiley. Yeah.

I'm just like, why? Like what are you doing? I think with Pablo it's important to hear how bad podcasts can be. So he knows what to avoid. But I still get a little like, uh, it still gets me a little excited. Even retired guys, even when like our, our guy Yans will text me being like oh that was amazing like Fuck yes, I made the ends laugh. That's cool. That's fucking awesome and I definitely there's a Phenomenon not phenomenon, but just like there's a lot of guys that are now professional athletes that

You know when they're just high school or college like grinding. It's not weird for them to listen to podcast It's just weird that now they're as famous as they are But it is awesome like I it never loses it never loses the awesomeness factor where if someone says they listen I'm just like that's fucking awesome. But also why? You gotta have better things to do. Yeah, no, I mean I Have always been in I think it works but denial about the listeners Yeah, you can't think about it. You can't think about the amount of people listen cuz it will fuck you up bad Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, it's it's just us. Yeah, and then somehow everybody else finds out

Yeah, it definitely will mess with your head Because it's like I don't think it would mess with my head if we were if I were smarter But it messes my head because like oh this many people heard me say something really stupid. that sucks that's the part I think it would always mess with your head though no but if you're like if you think about if you're smart and I get worried with my sarcastic like the amount of sarcasm and just like laying on thick with people like they might a lot of and I know a lot of fans like they'll get seriously upset about it I'm like is there like a athlete that's yeah yeah what a a fucking idiot mm-hmm. No, I mean they everyone thinks we're idiots, but that's the beauty of it because we are yeah We don't we don't run from it. No

We run into where the we run into the Marines of idiots. We're the first responders of idiots Yeah, things there's a problem. We'll be there saying dumb shit Do you guys ever get FOMO when you don't immediately record? Max talks about it a little bit with Hankie self-exclusing bang bang and not recording after any games, but other stuff like LeBron, Steven A or big trade news, is there anything you really wish you recorded right after? Yes. Yeah. I mean, we changed up how we do fourth of July week because of the NBA trade deadline. Yeah. But there's definitely agency not to agency when there's's a when something big happens on like a Monday afternoon, I'm like, shit, we got to wait, you know, or something happens on like a

Friday night. That does always give me a little FOMO that we're not we're not recording right then. Well, it's also because stuff is going to happen over the weekend. So by the time Monday morning comes around, yeah, we can't react to the same news on Friday like we would if it if it had just broken. Yeah, big time. That's it. Oh, great job, Hank. Thanks. We love love. We love each other. Yeah. We'll be in around each other. So much. Who would be your plus one to the Czechs wedding?

If you can only choose one I don't know I have to go back tiff Oh oh what a power couple tootsies show the tootsies to uh should sweet Jerry's here no Jerry Bing Bong and Hank randomly just the Bing Bong button okay good show boys great show big guests on Friday get excited before the long weekend let's do number three That was like a three-way tie. Oh man. I think you guys have to do odds or evens for this. Just say it again. No, no, no.

Memes, Max and Hank. All you guys, one, two, three, shoot. Throw out a one or a two. Throw it high. I'll take odds, three. No, no. What? No.

Throw out a one or a two over your head. Max, pick one or two. No, shut up, Memes. And then Hank, you a one or two over your head all right max pick one or two all right No, shut up me and Hank you pick one. You know why I pick three no this that it's you throw out a one or two Yeah, so that one of them is gonna pick one one of the good pick all right, all right Degrees odds three two one shoot Three three one all right so max gets through shoot a 3 3 1 alright so max gets 3 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 95 I'm gonna go 57 6 9 9 44 Come on 3 come on 53

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