Pardon My Take - Nick Foles In Studio, Week 15 Picks And Preview With Bonus Hank Conspiracy Corner, TNF Clunker + Fyre Fest of The Week

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

The Rams win the worst Thursday Night Football game of the year and the Niners are officially dead and have a how much do we pay Brock Purdy problem (00:00:00-00:17:50). Week 15 picks and preview for every game on Sunday including a massive Bills/Lions matchup and Hank's conspiracy corner during Jags/Jets (00:17:50-01:29:10). TD Parlay, Picks, and fantasy fuccbois (01:29:10-01:44:56). Nick Foles joins the show in studio to talk about winning the Super Bowl, Philly Special, his career ups and downs, Andy Reid and more (01:44:56-02:45:50). We finish with Fyre Fest of the Week (02:45:50-03:03:26).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Because the Rams are now eight and six. Yeah, the game was terrible. Terrible is a bad game It was raining pretty hard for the first half, but it looked like neither team could, they couldn't get the ball going on the ground. They couldn't get the ball going in the passing game. Nothing happened in the first half. Nothing. That's like the first game that I can remember where absolutely nothing happened in a half. Pukunekua made a good catch. The camera misidentified a player as being Trent Williams.

Yep. That might've been the highlight of the first half. That might've been it. Like looking at the TV and be like, Hey, that's not Trent Williams. The first, uh, the, the, the first quarter specifically went three plays, punt four plays, punt five plays, punt three plays, punt three plays, punt three plays, punt, punt six. Well, this is going into, wait, we started the game one, two, oh, I guess there was a field goal in there, but one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 punts, 10 punts in one field goal was the start of the game.

Yeah. When you know, when I watch games like this, especially in prime time, because if it's in on a Sunday and it gets swallowed up by the rest of the slate, you can overlook it. But if it's a prime time game like this, I look at watching it like we're making a deposit into the future football bank. Yeah, we're that money is going to go ahead and make money. You don't always see me it returns on your investment. But I know if I watch enough games like that, then I'm going to watch if you don't love me at my 49ers Rams,

you don't deserve me at my bills Rams. Yeah, that was I mean, it was bad. It was bad. I mean, we had the the Lions Packers game last week was great. This just happens late, late season Thursday night football just a little bit of rain fucks everything up. We also have to have a conversation about Brock Purdy. We should probably walk back. Well, you know what? I'm not going to walk it back because last year he was playing like a top five quarterback, but there's been talk about him getting an extension. Um, I know a lot of guys are hurt, but how much can you pay Brock Purdy knowing that he's a good quarterback? He's not in the level of make everyone better quarterback. I think he is. I think he had a, he had a very bad game tonight. Like he had a he had a very bad

game tonight like he looks he looked stupid and shitty tonight that's my last row was so bad it was stupid and shitty in one throw it was dumb to throw it and it was a bad pass I think he's still a very good quarterback you think he's give me a number how much I would pay him I mean 60 has been floated around it's not my money 60 a year 60 60 what I think it was 60 was floated around what was the number? Does anyone know the number? I have a question for you. Yes, if he was in the NFC East Would you want good question a rival team to sign him long-term good question?

Okay, five million a year was this report? I have a question for you, Max. Holy shit. Would I want the Giants to sign Brock Purdy? Yes, I would Yeah, yeah, but if he's on a team that's got weapons I guess Malik neighbors pretty good But if he's on a team, that's like if he's on a good team He can be a very very good quarterback. We've obviously seen it from him. But that's the point that once you pay them, then you have to actually, I don't get the cat.

I don't get the cat. No, the cat doesn't exist. All right. So this, yeah, I think you make kind of a valid point though, which is like if he's not on a team with good players, then no, he's not like a difference maker that can take a team to the Superbowl. The projections that I'm reading right now. So there was a report 60 year that's insane. You can't pay proc pretty 60 a

year. A year a year. Again, all these things are like fake money. But yeah, because you don't know how much is guaranteed like cap is going up. You could just be like, we're gonna pay him 60 year and then you can cut them after you think what? How did you think that salaries were broken down? You thought it was just 60 total? Yes. Give him $60 million. You're a quarterback for like five years. So you're saying like 60 for five years for a second. I'll do that in a second. Yeah, no, I think it's it's got to be more than like the 30s. I don't know. He's he's not a what Brock Purdy

Yeah, yeah, this is this is the conversation that's going on. I mean we've seen Brock Purdy be a good football player Yeah, very good at times But it's also when a lot when all his guys are healthy and everyone else is very good at it also the thing with Evo Samuel my ass the thing with you the thing with Brock Purdy is John Lynch kind of owes Brock Purdy. You can't play like that. No, but think about it. You can't play like that.

Think about it. The move that John Lynch made on draft day to move up, get Trey Lance, he's not talked about as being one of the bigger draft busts of all time. He just needs more snaps. But the fact is Brock Purdy saved John Lynch's ass by being good with the very last pick. I don't know what they're going to pay him. The Niners need a full reset though I feel like. This was the game if they win this game they're like alright maybe we'll make it the playoffs. I don't think they're making the playoffs. What

are the odds? Can we get the odds up? You're watching some stupid show right now on this. They're not gonna make the playoffs. We're watching a show. We're watching a Happy Holidays show. Maybe this game just taught us that Trent Williams was the most valuable player this team and Brandon Iuke and less than 1% chance and if you know what what's less than for the diners and Trent Williams very important. Brandon Iukes very important. Debo Samuel's four years ago was very important All right. I mean even last season Christian McCaffrey is very important very very important I they're gonna have to make some hard decisions and and Shed some of these guys so less one percent. What about the Rams because the Rams let's talk about the Rams the Rams

Credit the Rams they've won games and very I mean you can't win games in in two different ways than what they did against the Bills Four days ago five days ago in that shootout where they score 44 and then figure out a way tonight to grind it out and win a 12 to 6 game where it felt like nothing was happening. Puker, uh, Cooper Cup, did he have a catch? I know he didn't have a catch to go into the fourth quarter. I don't think that he did. Yeah, I mean, Puker Nakua had a couple of big plays, but they, they, you know, that

was a gutsy, find a way to win, tough, tough tough game for the Rams and now they are eight and six They play the Jets. They play the Cardinals. They play the Seahawks Again, I mean I'm the biggest commanders fan in the world now because this is I can't hang to Hank as a Can't have the Rams in the playoffs No, the Rams have a 48% chance right now to make it to the play and what are the commanders at the commanders? See that was that was current if win Jumped up to 50 from 48. Oh The way Maxx 50 there. He's so excited

Well, that was also like it went from 48 to 50 It wasn't like the commanders if they win on Sunday have an 86% Okay, okay My own death if they lose 57. Oh my god, but there's no way. Yeah. Oh my god, Jake There's literally no way. Yeah, we're gonna get to that. Well, we talk about it But oh my god. Yeah, listen, I can't have the Rams in these playoffs Max You would still rather play you'd rather play the Rams than the commanders I Mean the race which world are we in?

Yes, I paint myself green if the that's great that that's actually a fair question I'm gonna say this Say it who would you rather play? That game we just watched I didn't watch a game that been like holy shit I don't want to play this team yeah that was the worst football game ever but the Rams do the Rams do deserve credit for finding a way to win that game because it was ugly it was terrible and the room's horrendous the Rams did look much better in a very very shitty game that yeah the Niners said I said during the game but if that was the first game ever played a football they would never play a second game of football.

Maybe this is maybe like this sport is not good. Let's retool get back together. We're playing rugby now. Maybe this is the solution because Al Michaels is back for another year. So they announced that this week he's back for another year. Really. Yeah. He's year to year. Listen I but but I've had my sword out for Michael's last two C's. I don't know if I've got a hold on me. Maybe the solution is they just have to guarantee that there's no touchdown scored on Thursday night football because Al Michaels was not a problem tonight. He matched the energy perfectly. Yeah. Like he was the perfect announcer for this game when he's annoyed at an appropriate time, then it's okay. But

I can't do another season of defending Al it's okay. But I can't do another season of defending Al Michaels. Yeah. I just can't do it. Well, we look, I'm tired. Do you have anything for us? Oh, I thought you had one other thing for us looking up. What are the chances? Oh, no, the Niners very did. So wait, what are the commanders that right now? Max 78% 78. Okay, that's good. You guys are acting like Max, you never answer the question. Oh, yeah, you never answered the question into the world. Yeah, you never answer the question max In in what were it the playoffs start tomorrow in this world. I would like I would like the Rams But in the real world in the real world the same would like is it the same world

But see Hank doesn't get it because Hank never loses the big game He always wins it Hank who the fuck is the guest on this show today, dude? Hank- Hank- Hank- Oh, Hank. Nick Foles on the show and Hank had to leave midway through. Once he started talking about the Super Bowl, Hank gets up, watch for this on the YouTube. He took his headphones off and he was just going off what Nick Foles was saying by like my reaction. And he was getting angry and I was looking at him

He was like, oh can't hear everyone was acting like the fucking president was here made me sick You and Hank are pretty much the same person max. Did you know that? Like deep down in your core. You're the same guy also Bruins lost game seven like two years ago Oh, hey, don't even you I saw you retweet that that Horrendous horrendous stat of all the I watch Chicago to be good. That's that is in I want it though. I read it as a good thing because the tides have to turn it was I want Chicago is a very fun city. I love living in Chicago great sports town Passionate fans. I deserve better. Here's here it is and is and I'm going to give you guys some guesses.

So this is from Jay Kuda. So in the last seven years, he did a combination of wins, playoff wins per city. Last seven years. So Boston has 133 wins between their four teams in the last seven years. Philly 72 wins The Bay Area which has five teams 81 wins Phoenix 38 Atlanta 38 the land only has three teams Denver 94 Tampa 83 Toronto only three teams They have a sample and they have three to Tampa has three teams 83 wins

Toronto has 51 wins. They have three to Tampa has three teams 83 wins Toronto has 51 wins they have three teams how many playoff wins do you think the city of Chicago has in the last seven years five seven years five teams five teams so the Blackhawks none the Cubs this does not count 2016 or does it? Does not. Okay, so none for the Cubs then. None for the White Sox. The Bears don't have any either. You're off on a couple. Wait, does a play in count?

Playing counts. Okay, I'm gonna guess five. Four. The answer is four. The white Sox have two. The black Hawks have one. The Bulls have one. So shut the fuck up Hank. Max. I got your back. He doesn't understand. All right. But, but again, you couldn't take Nick foals sitting in here. The fact that you want to play the Rams Super Bowl champion Rams stud quarterback great coach what year we know like they've won a Super Bowl recently yeah like they have they have

they have a Super Bowl three years ago but like the Aaron Donald same same coach Aaron Donald's very important same coach same quarterback yeah that's the same same core okay okay or the most dysfunctional franchise of all time with a Hank and you're taking the Rams Hank three Super Bowls guy Joe Gibbs I Don't want to lose Again again to another Person on this podcast and the playoffs. I've done it to you twice and it's the worst feeling you don't understand How bad the feeling is he doesn't lose to somebody in this podcast in a playoff game?

He doesn't he does not wrong Jake Marsh You got you there gotcha either way I The Niners are dead. It's over Reset everything it's over reset everything It's over and then the Rams we got we got a Rams problem on this podcast. Yes a big Rams We got a Rams problem. I'm knee-deep in the Rams right now. I'm with you I'm a brother in our got a great coach and somebody sent this scenario to me and the more The more places it's perverted this person go to jail. They recry they should be arrested and executed There is a scenario that is looking more likely. I

Don't want to say it's probable but it the snows out there and it's talking to me every day that week 18 Hank is so I take off your pants. I'm very excited. I need to beat the Cowboys or maybe I maybe it doesn't matter if I beat the Cowboys or not. But the commander's playoff chances come down to the Bears beating the Packers. PFT told me that I was like, dude, that sucks. And he's like, no, I'll root for the Bears. I'm like, no, no, we won't beat the Packers. It's a, it's a, it's a scenario that's out there. There's all I'm going to be thinking about. It would

be the worst scenario ever because there's no chance. Is it separate game? Is it separate time? They don't do that. They don't announce it till before. But I think, I think if the bears lost that game, that might be, that might be the top part of my take. There's not an F PFT. They're gonna lose. If you lose by like 45 points to the Packers again sure And then that knocks me out and then that makes Hank's bet win and then max is happy That would be real sick if it like if no it would know you not 45 one if it came down It would be really sick if it was a Like all the tiebreakers, then it came down to point differential

Yeah, Packers won by like 50. Yeah Yeah, we're rooting in the fourth quarter because the Packers are only winning by 40 points and the Bears have four yards Yeah, and then the Packers score a meaningless touchdown on the last drive. You just gotta be that I want to go Do your own homework, okay. Someone send me the notes. All right. Well, we got the rest of the week, 15 picks and preview that game sucked. I am impressed with the Rams just because if you could win both again, if you win those two ways in five days span that's I mean, they weren't the problem tonight the Niners were the problem yeah somehow Sean McVeigh looked less wet than Kyle Shanahan and he wasn't even wearing a hat yeah Kyle Shanahan had that hood

upwards yeah I want to be anywhere but here McVeigh was just gliding between the raindrops someone asked him if he wants to leave again tonight because I know he said no after he won by a million better weather in Chicago listen you don't have to pay Caleb Williams for a few years. Brock Prody's gotta get paid right now. Right now. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. Picks and preview. Nick Foles and then Firefest.

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Like you'd rather have this be this way than if you reversed it yeah shout out to people they go to church they're gonna get back have have great NFL matchups ready for him yeah yeah this might be the slate of the year the afternoon slate week 15 church normally ends before yeah churches like 10 a.m. maybe if you got the way you guys worship what time did you go to church I was I went to Quaker meeting that was a little bit more relaxed let you be hung over? I was I went to Quaker meeting that was a little bit more relaxed Would you be hungover stumble on in I went to 1130 mass? But it would be done at 1230 and you'd be home by it

You'd be home by the what time you game start in Central time zone max well 1130 is the East Coast time I think they you think you're starting to 1030 and they schedule church for football do that. Yeah smart. They should or yeah There's multiple masses, you know, yeah there are yeah Okay, so we that's the setting for this weekend. We got to get through the early slate We just got to get through the early slate. Uh first up. Let's do some games first up chiefs at Browns Browns plus four over under 43 and a half Chiefs at Browns. Browns plus four over under 43 and a half. The Kansas City Chiefs are on a seven game against the spread losing streak,

which is pretty crazy. It is. Especially because they are 11 and one. Yeah. Well maybe, maybe they're 12 and one, 12 and one. Maybe they're just perfect at not exerting themselves too much. They don't waste any energy. Yeah, they don't waste any energy. They're 12 and one and they've lost seven games against the spread in a row It basically they're testing everything where it's like we're gonna be so great But also anyone who's like don't you don't get rich betting against patch from homes actually you do this year Yeah, it's been the year to do it. Yeah I just want Jamis to play well enough in this game that he doesn't get bitched next week

I agree with that because next week it will be Browns Bengals. And I just want to see Jameis Winston and Joe Burrow duel it out. I want to see 85 points, yeah. The, I think Jameis is going to be okay. The Chiefs past defense, Chiefs have a couple problems. Their offensive line's a problem,

their past defense is a problem. Their past defense since Jalen Watson, one of their great defensive backs, went out for the season, is 28th in EPA. So, Jameis might be able to cook. And also, DJ Humphreys is already questionable. So he had a hamstring issue. So, they might be back to like,

holy shit, we're shuffling along the line. Did they get that MRI back? Yeah, I don't know if they got that. Because I know Andy was waiting on that. The MRI. The MRI. He said that. Yeah, He's like, I'm waiting on this. And we ordered an MRI. Yes. We'll see what happens with that. Uh, I, I like what the Browns did this week. They cut Kaderius Tony, which is smart. Yes. That's addition by subtract. It also tells me that, uh, they probably asked Kaderius

Tony, Hey, can you give us any information about the chief's playbook? Realize that he had absolutely no help on that regard? Yeah, and they're like well, that's really the only reason why we're hoping to have you around this. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see you. Yeah. Yeah, I I like the browns in this game. Do you like them straight up? I don't know if I like them straight up Also another stat that might be pro James the Chiefs are third fewest in the league in takeaways So they've only had ten takeaways this year not turning the ball over on Posing offenses that much maybe we know he's been Jamis has been so he had the the game against the Broncos Pick six after pick six he asked the Lord to deliver him from pick sixes against the Steelers

No pick sixes did throw two picks Maybe the final iteration is no picks. No picks this week. I don't know. I wouldn't mind if he had, like I don't want James to throw no picks. That means he's not taking enough chances. True. I want full blooded James.

Yeah, we need full blooded James. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know which James we're gonna get this week. It could be good, could be bad. I'm hoping for good. I'm hoping for great. Brown's against the spread, not a bad play. Brown's straight up.

I don't know, it's up to you. I don't up to you well here's the thing too is this is probably the best game in the early slate just because it is the Chiefs and it's Jamis yeah like this is the game that I'll be watching the most I would say for ball knowers this game should catch your eye yeah this game this game will be will be the best so I will have something for this game what do you say Hank I know no one cares about your fantasy team but I do I am wrestling This game will be will be the best so I will have something for this game What do you say? I know no one cares about your fantasy team, but I do I am wrestling between Patrick my home this week and Jane Daniels and I This game could mean a lot for me if I go with Patrick my homes, but I don't yeah, what do you guys think? I think that's a man's fantasy questions are between him. I Lord I want to answer this but I got to buy in both my leagues

Okay, thanks are between him and the Lord. I want to answer this, but I got to buy in both my leagues. Okay, thanks. I mean, well, actually, no, I have my the big league. I don't have a buy, but that Evo and Blutman are going to handle that. Say the question again. I got you. Jane Daniels, Patrick Mahomes, Jane Daniels. Easy.

No question. Just in general or this week? Because I would say this week in fantasy. Okay, this week in fantasy. This week in fantasy. That's yeah, Jane Daniels for sure smart man I mean Mahomes is could could do great but like I've done that too many times where I might get to Mahomes and he just he sucks yeah I mean I think he's gonna I

think the the Browns defensive line is gonna be all over him so I like they haven't been able to protect him Have they been saving Kelsey for the playoffs? I thought so, but also they, yeah, maybe they have. That's what we, we have to give them the benefit of every single doubt. I don't think the chiefs are bad. I'm not one of those. They're just lucky. I've, we've said this before. I think that the chiefs, the, the, the championship DNA they have, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, they're a type of team that if you make one mistake,

they will capitalize on it, and they will make that into winning football. I'm just more pointing out that like, if you're a Chiefs fan, you know there's holes, like the secondary's been struggling, the offensive line's been struggling. Can Patrick Mahomes overcome all of that? Probably, maybe, I don't know.

You probably still can. Yeah, but I like the Browns are live here. Okay, next game bangles at Titans Titans are plus five and a half over under 46 all lines on draft Kings. Does the words Brian Callahan revenge game mean anything? A little bit. Maybe not because him and Zach Taylor are like best friends. Yeah. So Callahan would say that like after losses, I think it actually was the other way around. I think, I think Zach Taylor was saying after losses, the only people that hit you up are like your wife and maybe like you're one of

your parents, right? You up, right. But apparently Callahan would hit them up after every loss to know exactly what to say. So these guys are like very, very close friends. So I don't know if revenge is going to be the right thing. Yeah. So there's maybe a little bit of a hybrid revenge. I love this guy. Yeah. It's an I love this guy game. Yeah. Joe burrow got robbed when he was playing Monday football that fucking sucked. Yes. There's a criminal syndicate out there that is targeting players based on their Monday night football schedules. It's not and then just invading their homes. Well, they're well, they're known to be away. I feel bad for Joe. I feel bad for Joe. He said his privacy has been invaded in

more ways than one. So I won't, I won't touch on the other part. I'll just say that like, Joe Burrow is so handsome that literally everyone finds him attractive. Yes, regardless of your sexual orientation. That's just a good looking human. That's a good-looking human and a cool dude. Yeah I like the Bengals just because the Titans are so bad and the Titans given up. I Don't know if they've given up. I don't know if they're good enough to Like if they were trying their hardest what would I don't think it would look good anyway What would be worse if this was them trying their hardest right the last two weeks the would look good anyway. What would be worse?

If this was them trying their hardest? Right. The last two weeks, the loss against the commanders and then losing to the Jaguars. Would it be worse if they were trying their hardest in those games or would it be worse if they were just kind of giving up on this season? I think it'd be worse if they're trying their hardest and I think they still are trying their hardest and it's so bad that it looks, it masks as giving up. I feel like everybody except Calvin Ridley is trying their hardest.

Calvin Ridley kind of gave up. Yeah, yeah, but it's it's bad. The Titans are really, really bad. And the Bengals are alive ish. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna keep doing it. Listen, if the Bengals, they get to play the Broncos, if the Colts beat the Broncos this weekend, and then the Colts lose a couple games the Bengals are they kind of start not controlling their own destiny but they have a least a little more say in their

destiny than they would otherwise yeah yeah I mean I want the Bengals to keep winning it'd be just because it'd be great going into the last couple weeks of the season if they were still theoretically alive it also would just be a great playoff like it would just bolster the playoff matchups if we're like oh first round is Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow. I mean Bo Nicks would be awesome too. So I'm not we got good options but the Bengals at least we know they are statistic or technically still alive and still playing for something. Yep they sure are. And they're doing the whole I'm sure they're doing the playoff start now speech Where's the ping pong table at I don't know that's gonna be key for me the playoffs start now

Every game is a must every game is a playoff game Yep for them and they still might not even get in the play. This is super super wild card week. Yeah, all right Commanders at Saints Saints minus seven and a half over under is 44 Pft. I think there's gonna be a whomping. It should be a whopping. Can I can I can I can I give you some confidence? Well, so my first question is, because I don't know, I haven't seen anything out there about this. Are we getting Spencer rattler on the Saints? Are we getting Jake Hayner on the

same? I don't think it matters. Because I have I have some things that are going to maybe fill you fill you up with confidence. Okay, the first is, Jane Daniels seven and one against spread versus teams under 500 the saints are under 500 The second is here's a list of games and I want you to tell me what they have in common Bucks 51 Saints 27 Broncos 33 Saints 10 Chargers 26 Saints 8 The overhitting three out of four of those.

Those were the three games that Derek Carr missed. Okay. They got fucking smoked. Derek Carr. You could say whatever you want about him, but he, I think he, uh, masks a lot of the badness of the saints, even though they're still bad with Derek Carr sometimes. Uh, I think it's going to, I, they can't, how are they going to move the ball? No Derek Card and no taste. Two of those games were no taste of male one. You know, they lost by 20 plus. They lost by 20 plus. Yeah. Also Jayden makes his return to Louisiana. Gonna be in the dome. Yup. I feel like he's fully healed now. I think this is going to be a shit. You know what? You know what they're going to do this weekend. They're going to

turn them loose. Oh, this is the Jayden Daniels gets turned loose. We off a bye off a bye. Feeling good. Going back to Louisiana playing. I think this is his first game in a dome on artificial turf because he played in Arizona, but that's grass. And he played in since he played. That's not a dome. Yeah, it is turf, but this is the first combo Artificial turf. Wow. He's the anti-jereg off. He might be I feel like this is gonna be a This this could be a whopping I don't want to get too confident, but it's a must-wamp I think you I think there's no thing is like I think you guys are gonna win this game I feel confident in the commanders and it's a must-win. It's a must-wamp. It's a must-wamp. No Yeah, I would say must for me for me. It's okay. I think it's just a must win

Yeah, so anything you're gonna look at over there if they if the Eagles lose then you're starting to think whoo. Yeah next week Don't look in that rear view mirror. Yeah, so I'm out buddy. I'm not gonna still be don't drop the soap I'm not gonna overlook the Saints though Saints are a good football team. I'm just trying to do like coach speak right now Yeah, you know, they're good. He does a lot of good things. He's looked good in some of his pictures that he took the official team photos were very interesting that Jake Hayner took the season. Spencer rattler, five star guy out of high school. We

know he's got the talent. Yeah, it's somewhere in there. Alvin Kamara. I mean, what hasn't he done in this league says that's all you got to say he does it all. You got to just say that and they got some they got some playmakers on defense that have been around. Good kicking game. They pay those guys to pay those guys to be in a road favorite like this is a it's still a very unusual sensation for me. I don't know how to feel about it but Marshawn Lattimore should play this weekend.

Revenge game for him. Revenge game for him which will be nice and good vibes in the district. It looks like we're getting RFK Stadium back. Oh, wow. Yeah, all we had to do is trade a squadron of f 16s to Maryland for it. Oh, hell yes, which is awesome trade. That's a story that was, I think, only written for me to Yeah, yeah. But yeah, what is why does Maryland need DC's f 16s? I don't know. We think about naming an RFK Junior Stadium?

RFK Junior Stadium. That would be kind of cool. Yeah, no shots allowed. Yeah, there's some dead animals in the end zone. I kind of like that. Yeah, put one at midfield. Yeah. Yeah, not bad.

Just gotta play around the whale carcass. Yeah, you get brain worms if you play there. Yep, Hank, have we mentioned any of your Hungry Dog teams yet? No. Okay. So the Saints are not in the Hungry Dog. So you're in the clear. Yeah, you're in Browns are not in the hungry dog Nope Titans. No God no Okay, okay. Hank. Are you are what are your thoughts on this if the commanders win?

I know you put that bet in for them to not make the playoffs because you're Jake hater I did it well if the commanders win my my Super Bowl future gets that much better So I'd be excited. Hmm. I love you Hank. That's so nice. That's very nice. That's very nice you how about this one Hank Ravens a giant There's no way they lose this game like it's Now you're being me are there he went a little further mean There's give me anything you just said give me Hank's supercomputer project outcome for this game things We just said. Give me Hank's super computer projected outcome for this game. The things we just said were coach speak talking up the saints. You could simulate this game a thousand times.

The saints might win twice. Oh, okay. But what is it? What's the aggregate projection? Aggregate projection 35 seven. All right. So that's your statistical model. All right.

So you're taking the, are you taking the commanders this weekend? I mean, that's a pretty powerful model. All right, so you're taking the are you taking the commanders this weekend? I mean, that's a pretty powerful model a thousand times. They only was things only win twice Seven and a half points NFL team. That's a lot. You should see what why don't you throw the commanders in the hungry dog? I'll tease them. Why don't you throw the commander's money line in the hungry dog? Just choose so-sats That's not how the hungry dog works But I mean you could just it's just it's a thousand times they play only two times. They would lose. It's I'll tease them. Yeah, if you tease and what would that be seven and a half down to one and a half. Yeah Yeah, something like that yeah, there's no chance right literally no chance well no you said to two out of thousand

I'll hop on that teaser to yeah, just let me you give me the second leg find the second leg for that teaser We'll find it as we go through the games. How about that? Yeah, make a PM tease Okay This is not a teaser game, but Raven's a Giants Giants plus 16 over under is 42 and a half 16 It's a lot of points. It's the, uh, the giants have not been underdogs of double digits in the last 50 years at home. Uh, it's a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of points. Okay. So this is the centennial season for the New York giants, sir.

Hundredth season. Uh, there is a chance because their last two home games are against the Ravens and the Colts. They're going to be underdogs. I would imagine against the Colts as well. Yeah. If they lose those two games, they will become the first team in NFL history to go oh and nine at home in a single season.

Damn, that's crazy. You got to redo the Centennial season next year. Yeah. You just got to pretend this season didn't happen. Well, because there's no year zero, right? Right. So do that. This is also it's only the 10th time in the last 48 years the road team has been this big of a favorite. It's an insane spread. This is a college football spread. No home team has been this much of an underdog since 2021. You know who it was? The Jaguars when they hosted the Bills,

but the Jags won nine to six. Oh, I remember that game. Who could forget that game? Yeah. Yeah, I do remember that game. Was that like week two or something? Was it the week two or was it the last week game? Remember the season?

Wait, Jaguars versus, who was it? Jaguars Bills. Bills. Oh yeah, that was. Was last week game remember the the season wait Jaguars verse who was it Jaguars bills bills oh yeah that was that way too yeah that was like something some early in the season I remember that yeah so we'll see what happens Tommy DeVito he's back Tommy DeVito him Italians are back also we had a weird story this week that Lamar Jackson shared that his mom was mad at him for not running enough. Mm hmm. So he said, my mama just told me that she cussed me out this after the game against the Eagles. I'm mad we're going to get after it. I'm not going to lie to you. We're going to go get after it. I can't wait for this buy to get on. We got the Giants coming up. She said there were

lanes I should have taken and ran. I was just trying to let guys develop routes. Uh, yada, yada, yada. He then also had a tweet yesterday said I can't wait for the internet to crash. Yeah. Is that because people were like, hey, your mom tells you what to do? I don't know what that was about. Why the buddy pregnant? Yeah, why the buddy pregnant? All time tweet. I don't know. Yeah. Why was Lamar Jackson? I would imagine that most people most of the feedback Lamar gets online is generally positive. Yeah, I would think so.

Right, unless he's missing a practice for diarrhea. Yeah, or losing in the playoffs. Or losing the playoffs, yeah. That's probably not a good time for him to go online. This would make more sense if you tweeted that out in January. Yeah. But the Ravens are also prone to weird games. But the Giants are really bad.

That's a good point. Counterpoint, the Giants are so so bad. So in their seven home losses, they've been outscored 164 to 71. No Dexter Lawrence. They're just so bad. They're such a bummer. Are they the worst team? They might be the worst team. I don't know. Titans.

Titans might. I would say, I'll say this without Dexter Lawrence. I think they might be the worst team. I think they, I think they would take the cake. So it'd be, it'd be, be between the giants, the Raiders and the Titans. If Daniel Jones was starting, I don't think that they would be the worst team though. I agree with that but it isn't kind of crazy that like he definitely would be he probably would have found them a win somewhere Yeah, they're doing elective surgery right make themselves uglier right now, right? Okay, so the next game Cowboys at Panthers Panthers minus three over under 43

So the Panthers I think we all agree have been playing good football. I think if you just look at the pan, if you throw away everything before Andy Dalton got into a car accident, then I think the Panthers are like an average team that has actually been trending in a very good direction. Like an above average team right now. They're the one of the bad teams that is still playing really hard and pushing teams to the limit. And I was thinking about it, I was like, man, what is this turnaround? Like you know, Bryce Young obviously has been great.

There was a report this week that David Tepper has actually taken a hands off approach to the team. Smart. So that might be why the Panthers are good again. Very smart. And good is a relative term. This is the first time they have been favorites in 33 games. So I kind of like the Panthers this week. I do too. I kind of like them straight up. Oh, I mean they are. Oh,

Hank's going hungry dog with the Cowboys. Go Moss Hank. They let down spot Hank. Go Moss. Oh, let down spot for the, for the pan. Listen to you guys. They've lost three in a row, but you guys are talking about them. Like they're a good team. It's fair. I said relative I said they're a good team relative to PFT just said above average I think they're playing above average football right now. They almost they should have beaten the Eagles last week It should have been the Chiefs. It should have been the Eagles They were they went to overtime against the Bucs let down but they haven't won those games, but they're riding high But they haven't won them.

Hank kind of makes a little bit of sense. Like the Panthers, we are the Panthers. We've never talked about the Panthers. It's like Mike Tomlin Steelers as as home underdogs. Panthers is favorites. As road favorites. But the Cowboys stink. They almost beat the Bengals.

Well the Cowboys also have some bad injuries. Yes. And Overshawn's out, right? Yep. And he's out, right? Yup. And he's out for a long time. So to me, Overshawn, the way that he's played this season, if you compare it just straight up to how Michael Parsons has played this season, Overshawn I think has been their best defensive player.

Cougar Rush isn't good. Neither are the Panthers. Okay. They're playing good ball. It's just Panthers. Okay, I they're playing good ball. It's just Panthers road favorites. No, they're not road. They're home. Home.

Panthers favorites fade. You don't want to go into the bank probably. Bank of America, I think a bank. Yeah, you don't you don't go into the bank like that. Yeah, you don't do that. You don't go into that bank. They're gonna pound that key pounding drum. Somebody's gonna break that drum this week. And that's my call.

Chubba Hubbard. Memes, what you got? What's up with the sunglasses? So there's a light in there that I guess I haven't noticed till now. And I've just been staring at it. Now my eyes are all fucked up. You couldn't stop staring. It's literally been there since we've been in this studio, which light that's above your left shoulder. And you just started staring at it and couldn't stop? Yeah.

What are you, a moth? I was looking at the screen and then I was seeing dots, so now I got sunglasses on. You look ridiculous wearing sunglasses during a podcast. Above. This one? Yeah. Oh, it doesn't even look like it's on. It's very bright.

Got it. It's literally been there since we've started the show. And you just caught eyes with it. Yeah. And it's just. It's all I could see. Are you still staring at it right now with the sunglasses? Is this a rebrand?

Yeah, make me like PFT. Yeah. OK. You wish. You got the lottery ball, maybe. So you're going Cowboys. Panthers have covered five straight as well. Let down. They've lost three in a row. row I mean Hank is kind of right in that nobody has

talked about the Panthers in such glowing terms as everybody's been talking about the Panthers recently but that might just be because they've been playing well and we're so shocked that Bryce Young like it's been shocking yeah because we thought it was we thought we had written the book yeah classy guy very that's Bryce Young Do you see him? He's a prayer. Yeah in the game. Who was it that got injured on the Eagles? I don't know, but there was a guy who got went down a Gardner Johnson went down twice And I don't know if it was him, but he was he said a prayer. Yeah, I didn't see this

Yeah, you would never do that for an opponent. No, I would it's CGA Gardner Johnson. Okay, I believe so Oh, so the prayer worked. Yeah, so Wow Bryce young Maybe you should thank Bryce young Say thank you to Bryce young Thank you to Bryce young. Okay I have no problem with Bryce young. He's good quarterback. He thought some prayers do and it worked. Yeah Okay, next game Jets at Jaguars Jaguars plus three over under 40 and a half. We have said we're not talking about the Jaguars anymore.

We also said that this would be when Hank can maybe unload some conspiracy theories on us. I also have a very funny anecdote I'd like to share with the boys before we hear from Hank. Remember on Wednesday when we were talking about Juan Soto and the fact that Yankees fans are now doing a spin zone where they're like oh that guy he can't even play defense. Well we actually had a similar situation happen for a murder because I overheard Max in the gambling cave yesterday say, I heard actually Luigi is Greek mmm Real thing he said Full name

Luigi Mangione is Greek Greek guy is a Greek guy. I saw a tweet Okay, but that was an all-time spin zone to be like yes, someone told me that he actually might be Greek an all-time spin zone to be like, yeah, someone told me that he actually might be Greek. Just saying. This guy. This guy right here. Greek individual. Greek and Italians are sometimes close. Yeah. Luigi Mangione.

Is Mangione, is that, what's the country of origin on that? Greece. It could be. You can't find anything. None of these say Greece. I know, I don't know where, it was like an ancestry thing. Wait, they like an ancestry thing

Oh My god But it's just so funny that max like I got to move away from this murder. He's Greek He's actually Greek Eastern Eastern Italian pretty much Greek. There's you know, there's countries in between Our side this I just never thought that would happen where you get that kind of spin zone where you're trying to disavow By by changing where he's from Mangione all right, so Hank yeah your conspiracy theory. What do you got for us the government? All right good start good start they have technology. That's illegal to use To track and find someone like Luigi which which they used. The Greek guy?

The Greek guy. Mm-hmm. Which they used illegally to find him, and then planted, you know, they planted all the evidence, the McDonald's worker, the written manifesto, to cover their tracks about the fact that they illegally, they basically just like Edward Snowden type stuff where he uncovered that they were, you know, illegally surveying people and illegally tracking people. They basically

use that type of technology to find him and then planted evidence that fit the narrative. Okay, how'd they know it was him though? They used illegal stuff. Okay. And then the McDonald's worker also a government employee The McDonald's worker was a plant and that's why they're not gonna get paid. Oh, yeah, so I did Yeah, so the the person in McDonald's that allegedly called the cops is not going to get whatever the fifty thousand dollar reward Yeah, there's honestly like a low reward for this but fifty grand reward Because they did not

Call like Crime Stoppers. They which they dialed 911 What is Crime Stoppers Crime Stoppers is the company that you call if you see a criminal and they give you money That's crazy. Yeah, so this guy's not or this man or woman is not getting paid for that That's because it out of 911 that makes no sense. It's a loophole. What do you think about the eyebrows? Nine one one that makes no sense. It's a loophole. What do you think about the eyebrows? Eyebrows are suspect. There's no matchers where it's you know, there's a much bigger separation In the pictures they use to try and find them then what he actually has and Then I don't know how this connects to the drones, but I'm still working on that. Yeah

We need some reports. I'm happy we're out of Jersey. I was in Jersey. I'm happy I'm out of there. Those drones are just hovering, huh? Someone said someone was like not to be an alarmist, but I've figured out what the drones are doing. And they're looking for atomic bombs. Okay, not to be alarmist, not to be alarmist. But the drones, I've heard that they came out of the ocean. Somebody like in the Coast Guard said that the drones came out of the ocean, which means that they came out of the ocean. Somebody like in the Coast Guard said that the drones came out of the ocean, which means that they could be aliens too. And then, um, president pug was reporting that they might be aliens, but good news, they're aliens that are fighting against other aliens, protecting us from the other aliens. So president pugs got it. By the way, max is still looking for the Greek thing. You

made this up. I may have just made this up in my head. I could have swore the whole time we've been talking. He's been furious. We can see his computer. He's been furiously typing in different things in the, in the search bar being like Greece, Greek ancestor. It's like, there's no way that an Italian could commit murder. I saw does Luigi Mangione pay his taxes? I saw a- You ever hear of Saco and Vincetti? I saw like an ancestor.com thing that was just like a screen- a screenshot of his uh... It could have been any screenshot now that I think about it. I don't- I'm just gonna shut up. How about his cousin though?

His co- or not his cousin, his uh, his old roommate throwing him under the bus. Dude! His roommate called up uh, was it the Daily Mail? Called up the newspaper and said Yeah, you know I lived with him for a while, uh, his back was so was at the Daily Mail called up his paper and said yeah You know I lived with him for a while his back was so bad that he couldn't fuck He never had sex because his back was too bad I'm pretty sure that if you are able-bodied enough to like get up go to New York shoot somebody ride a bike Yeah, get on a bus go to Altoona, Pennsylvania. You could probably have sex. Yeah, I'd agree the there's nothing

Whenever like something happens whether it's a murder or tragedy whatever it could be and you have the News the next day and it says former roommate or former friend. I immediately like that guy's a scumbag Yeah, he literally saw something it was like oh ask me about this. Mm-hmm. What the fuck dude? Also, this is just conspiracy theory. I'm not saying I believe this just connecting dots something it was like oh ask me about this mm-hmm what the fuck dude also this is just conspiracy theory I'm not saying I believe this just connecting dots diddy allegations come out bridge blows up right remember that good point out jz allegations come out drones so like whenever something in the news happens then there will be another news story that happens well there's these elite rings that there are you know the the the elitist and the something in the news happens, then there will be another news story that happens.

Well, there's these elite rings that there are, you know, the, the, the elitists and the people in the Illuminati, they're worried about getting busted and they're pushing the like the button distraction button. It's like distraction button is drones, drones, bridge. Where does Mangione fit into this? A distraction. We just need to send him back to Greece was he a distraction from Jay Z or was Jay Z a distraction from him He was because he Jay Z happened

What is going on? Can someone tell me yeah, did he yeah did he did he oh related allegations? There's a woman that is suing him. So it's a civil case and the same attorney David Busby I think that's his name Busby whatever it is. He's out of Houston He's the same guy that represents all the Deshaun Watson accusers. Okay Him and his client have filed a civil case against Jay-Z Claiming that they that he raped like a 14 year old girl. That's bad. And then Jay-Z Said like take my name out of your mouth. You're about to find out

where I come from. Got it. And then Roger Goodell said, we're still doing the halftime show. All's good. Yeah, he's like Roger. That would never lie. Roger Goodell said we're gonna stick with Jay Z and wait for all the facts to come out. Got it. Yeah. I'm I was yawning. So I asked President president pug to grab me a coffee real quick pug Do you have any thoughts on the drones real quick? Do you want to say it in there? Oh? Yeah, it's probably alien I've heard it's aliens protecting from other aliens is what I've heard okay, okay

Got it that kind of wraps it up. What do I know what anyone else anyone else is gonna look for over DC probably aliens protecting from other aliens So that's what I've heard a whole quote. It's good aliens probably Okay, why do they what are the good aliens? We come back in come back in come on. Why are the good aliens? Why why are they protecting us? What's in for them? Are they just nice? Apparently they've been here the whole time but just in the water. Okay. And then when the bad aliens I guess are threatening now so they came out to protect us. Oh!

Against the bad aliens. So they're our saviors. Yes. And how do I tell the difference? If I'm outside and I see an alien how do I know if it's a good alien or a bad one? That's the scary part. I don't think we know. Okay.

Okay. But you know the other part. Yeah. Cause like saying I don't think we know what is the plot of transformers. You understand saying I don't think we know would imply that everything else you said before that is like, well that's fact. Well we know they're protecting us, but we don't know like the war with the bad

aliens. Got it. Got it. Okay. We don't know like the result of that yet. Yeah. Cause it's ongoing. Yes. Okay. Okay. I will keep us updated I'm on whoever side wins. Yeah, okay. Okay. All right, who just said all this stuff? Pug all right. Thank you Pug memes. Do you have anything about the Jets? We can talk about the Jets? Um, I think this is gonna be shit-kicking by The Jets, okay Okay, this is actually my game of the year. Oh, okay

I think they're gonna take all the frustrations out of this dogshit season onto the Jaguars this Sunday And that's it. I think I actually don't disagree and it's also just a simple like Aaron Rodgers verse Mac Jones Yeah, you guys want to hear the sad stat of the day. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers averages 260 yards for the next four games. He'll be the single season passing leader of the New York Jets Wait say it again if he averages 260 yards a game for the next four games. He'll be the single season passing That seems like a lot of yards though Yeah, he's kind of in that rain and it's an extra game. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, still those aren't like the the Bears passing sad stats when they do the thing like the was it 4,000 yard passer

Yeah, it's everyone's it's all the pictures and they're just blank for the Bears Caleb on track for that I don't think this year but next year. Yes, he is. Okay Yeah, me is I I don't disagree with you. It feels like this is a weekend for the Jets offense to Actually do something. Mm-hmm. Well, the Jets offense hasn't been bad. They They've done five top five they put over 20 the best Couple games not the offense for Seahawks. Okay. Let's see the last couple games for the Jets Okay, so the last couple games the Jets Let's see the last couple games for the Jets. Okay, so the last couple games the Jets

He scored 26 The Seahawks game they did not score 21 on offense 14 okay, and then you scored 27 against the Colts. Was that any none of that was picked sixes or anything? Nope all offense Breeze Hall all offense Breeze Hall. Okay And then you scored six against the Cardinals. So two out of the last four games. The offensive scored over 20 points. They're figuring it out. This is actually the last few games of the season for the Jaguars. I know we're not supposed to preview them, but we have a potential narrative that could stick around for a while developing.

So I'm sitting up. Head coach of the Jaguars. Doug Peterson, still the head coach. Mm hmm. They should. If he wins this game, they should fire him because that would put him one game above 500 lifetime. Oh, as a head coach. I like that. And you don't want to be like one of those statistics where it's like this Super Bowl winning coach is actually

below 500. Yeah. His career. Yeah. You're right. The nice thing to do for the Jaguars would be to fire Doug Peterson with a win. Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. Fire him after a win. Let him get above 500. They're not going to win this game though. Memes is right. I think memes is right too. Uh, okay. Dolphins is always right. Dolphins, Texans, Texans minus three is the last game of the early slate. This one actually has some playoff implication because Texans are eight and five off by dolphins still technically alive. So Texans minus three over under 46 and a half. Can I point out one thing? Because two has been hurt this year we haven't been able to do the like a fraud dolphins thing

to us five wins this year are The Rams good good ish team. Yeah, good team. Are they about 500? I don't know six and seven. All right So we're right right close enough the Rams the Jaguars the Raiders the Patri, and the Jets. Oh, there's... Oh, the 776. All right, all right. There they are.

So let me say it again. The Rams, the Jaguars, the Raiders, the Patriots, and the Jets. The losses for two of this year, Buffalo twice, Arizona, Green Bay. Texans are above 500. We should remember the fact that the Dolphins just can't beatans are above 500. We should remember the fact that the Dolphins just can't beat a team above 500. Yeah but I think I like the Dolphins straight up this weekend. Did you hear what I said? I did. I heard that. I still like them. I still like them because I don't think the Texans they're not in

that obviously the Cardinals they don't kind of qualify the same way that the Bills would qualify as like a very very good team or the Packers would qualify as a very, very good team. But I don't think that the Texans are a super good team. But are the Texans closer to the Bills and the Packers or the Jaguars, Raiders, Patriots and Jets? Probably closer to the Packers. That's the only, that's my only thought in this game. Not really deep level thoughts. But that was my thought.

So I mean, what you're saying is essentially if the Texans beat the Dolphins, then the Texans are a good team. And if they lose, then they're bad, they're bad team. Yeah, it's really has a lot to do with. Yeah, tell us what happens. Yeah. Yeah, basically that makes sense Anything else for this game? I Got nothing that's about it for me. That's the early slate. Let's get into it. You know what? Let's build up to the to the three games. Let's build up to the three great great games. Let's start with the

We'll start with the ones. There's a couple mixed in there that are not actually there's four great games the afternoon But one bad one Hank Patriots of Cardinals Cardinals minus six over under 46. I'm happy this games in the afternoon Yeah, get swallowed up swallowed up. Should we talk about Bill Belichick? Yeah UNC happy form your beloved tar heels. Yeah, they get probably will work out It was funny seeing that whole like Bill Balachuk basically was saying fuck you to the NFL. Well, I believe that. I also think there's an element of Bill

Balachuk being like, if I'm not going to get I don't want to do another hiring cycle where I don't get hired. I'm going to go take this into my own hands. Yeah. And I think he's going to be successful at UNC. I really do. I don't know. I'm not saying that he's not. Because he's obviously one of the smartest and best football coaches of all time. But there's a lot that's different about college. From the NFL.

And to think that you're going to jump into it and immediately be able to run the best program. I think it's going to be a lot more complicated than even he thinks it's going to be. Bill O'Brien has done decently well with Boston College this year in terms of like writing them and I don't think they're going to win the ACC next year. I think they'll just look a lot more competent than they have. But did you read that article where he was like, I'm just tired of like the bullshit in the NFL? Yeah.

It feels kind of weird to be like, I'm tired of the bullshit in the NFL. Let me go to somewhere where there's significantly more bullshit. Yeah. College football is the bullshitest sport. That's what we love about it. It's all bullshit. It's insane. There's so much crazy shit that happens all the time.

Like the NFL is pretty buttoned up for this part. Yeah. But there's wild stuff that he can't even account for in that. I like the people that are pointing out some coaches have been successful as NFL coaches that then transitioned into college coaches. And I love the fact that they're including Nick Saban in that list as like a great NFL coach that proved that he just make the transition to college football and win there. Yeah. So Hank, I think he's spent, you know, obviously he wasn't coaching this year. His son was. So I think he obviously got to, you know, hear and see how the way things worked and made the decision

that he thought he could handle it. I don't think he's going into it blind and it's going to be blindsided by the way college and recruiting and all that stuff works. He's seen it. He knows how it goes and he made the decision himself to take the job. He obviously has the 400 page. I would love, love, love to get my hands on that manifesto on his manifesto. I think it's going to be exciting. I think you're going to see a

different side of Bill. I think, you know, you saw it this year where it's like, he was a hard ass NFL coach because he knew that's what it took to win. I think he's going to know that he has to show his softer side, which he did this year in the media. And he's going to do it with coaching where it's like, it's not going to be the same NFL Bill Belichick. It's going to be a different type of Bill Belichick where it's like, he's going to do what he has to do to win. It's like back to school with Rodney Dagerfield. He's going to be, he's going to be cool guy, Bill.

To an extent. Yeah. To a certain extent. I think he's going to be more like the NFL, you know, the NFL players would be like, he was such a hard ass, but it's different when, you know, players are under contract, they're getting paid so much money. Obviously with NIL it's a little bit similar, but I think he's going to be successful. I am happy that he's at UNC.

Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. You've always been a Tar Heel. I mean listen, I obviously the Duke stuff I was a Duke fan growing up, but like again I am very close with Caleb. I've known him since I was 22 when I first went to UNC It was like Mitch Mac Collins Switzer Jeff Schottmer like you know, I've had some some Carolina football Relationships since I've been like 22 so I don't I don't hate I have nothing against I have nothing against Carolina football Drake

May great. Yeah and If like Bill Belichick is using Caleb to recruit like that's gonna be on we make you a split jersey. That would be awesome. A UNC football Duke basketball. Or Yeah, and golf. I'm gonna get a Drake may Patriots UNC split. Oh, I like that. Those be hot. Yeah. So you think he's going to be when you say successful first year playoff for what college football playoff.

We should have won the ACC. Yeah, I know. Okay. Playoff in the first year. Yeah. We'll get a, what kind of a props is old bill going to have on the sideline? You know, the turnover chain turnover hoop. You gotta, you gotta appeal to the kids how i feel like he's going to build a staff of people that do all that you think that's other things he's got lombardi as the gm which i didn't even really i guess

that's a new thing with nil but he's going to build a staff and he's like he knows what he wants to do and he's going to build a staff he's got his son he's going to build a staff who do most of the shit he doesn't want to do and he's going to build a staff he's got his son he's going to build a staff who do most of the shit he doesn't want to do and he's going to focus on winning. Do you think he's gonna ban tik tok? No, yeah, probably can't do that. I agree with you that I think I don't think he's gonna play off in one year but I think if he sticks it out like I think I said this on Wednesday but there is a compelling case for Bill

Belichick shows up to your living room and says, Hey, I can get you in the NFL. It's kind of like the cow. Like I can get you in the NFL. I know what it takes to get you in the NFL. I know what it takes to play NFL football. If you want, like I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that you need an education and like UNC is like some, you know, all this.

I'm just going to get you the NFL. Go back to what works at UNC. The Butch Jones are Jones are like I would be I wouldn't be shocked if Bill Belichick gets a program running that's like maybe they don't win get to the playoff maybe they don't win like a ton of ton of games but they're like getting guys in the draft every year and the transfer portal like he's always been good at getting the most out of guys that you wouldn't expect true he's gonna be able to you know watch film and watch other teams and players and stuff and get them in the transfer portal. And all of a sudden they're going to be good. I do evaluate

a quarterback. I think that there will be some people in the portal that would take less money to play for Bill Belichick. Sure. Can he evaluate a quarterback? Yes. Sure. Yes Sure Yeah with the new rules Jones So there's was a cam Newton came new was good. Okay, I got hurt He was good his first year and then he had a little bit of he got injured Well, how come he didn't start Tom Brady initially? Why didn't he draft Tom Brady in the first round? He had a six round great on Tom Brady. I Actually agree with you so I don't know which I'm just trolling you I think he's gonna be good and it's also just gonna be hilarious watching him be like pissed off like 18 year old kids on the sideline yeah like

it makes the ACC significantly more fun with Bill Belichick also if you're a college ref and Bill Belichick screaming at you for this call you think you're so I fucked that up yeah he's gonna hate Dabo so much I saw it's like the like Bill Belichick's face when he sees Dabo running down the. Yeah, he's gonna hate Dabo so much. I saw it's like the like Bill Belichick's face When he sees Dabo running down the hill. Yeah. Oh, he's gonna he's the anti-dabo Yeah Yeah I also think there's part of this was just the colors because I've said it before like if you're

Thinking about going to school and you see the Carolina blue Do it is that gonna mellow him out? The nice calming shade of blue. Yeah, I think he's been chilled I mean, I think like you've seen you've seen the good side and the chill side of Bill Belichick this year I think he's gonna to some extent the only thing that shocks me like that. I did think he wanted that Shula record But maybe he also was like Andy Reid is Hot on his tails and Andy Reid's gonna like if you go if Bill Belichick goes takes over another NFL team There's no guarantee. They're gonna win

12 games a year and he reads almost guaranteed 12 games a win a year and he's kind of thing is a control freak Yeah, it also would be a crazy Like and as a family man Well, it also would be like his legacy is already cemented is one of if not the best coach of all time if he does Successful in college. That's like insane. He's he's like oh I did it I just did it for fun his girlfriend gonna enroll at grad school maybe I think she probably already is yeah that's cool yeah okay Cardinals I like the Cardinals I don't disagree I think they need this game I also think they're gonna be able to run the ball and that's like the big

thing the Cardinals can run the ball. Everything else works. Yeah, I agree. I think I think the Cardinals by a decent margin this game. If Kyler can stop turning the ball over because he's had he had two last week. Yeah, and then one or two interceptions each in the previous two games. Yeah, he needs stop turning the ball over Kyler stop turning the ball over. Okay. Colts at Broncos, Broncos minus four over under 44. This is a crazy swing game in the playoff picture. So the Colts, if they win this game, will have a 66% chance of making the playoffs. With a loss, they'll have an 11% chance. And the Broncos with a win will have an 89% chance of making the playoffs and a 42% chance with a loss. So, holy shit, it means a lot.

Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of rooting for the Colts on this just to keep more chaos in the playoffs. Because we don't, this is the first time in a while, I feel like, where we're kind of almost set. Other than this, and you know, I guess the Rams and Commanders, but it's not, there's not like a ton that's still up for grabs in terms of we have at least in both division or both conferences, five or six teams that are almost guaranteed set.

And if you're rooting for the Bengals to still be in the conversation at all, then you're definitely rooting for the Colts this weekend. Yeah. Yeah. No, no hungry dog, Hank, hungry horse. Yep. Colts, no Riley Moss for the Broncos. That's that's significant Shane's stiking off a by both teams are off a by right? Yeah, both teams are off a by I

Kind of like that Hank. I use I don't know if they can win outright But Anthony Richardson, he's kind of showing me something Not that great recently. Yeah, Bo Nicks might go off. He is Bo Nicks He's got so much dog. He makes people uncomfortable. I Want I want the Colts to win this weekend, but I feel like it's the Broncos have been playing much better football. Yeah Okay though the other one that's Significant in the afternoon, but not one of the marquee ones. Bucks at Chargers, Chargers minus two and a half

over under 45 and a half. I need Lad McConkey to play, that's really all I got. Yeah, people are pissed off. Chargers fans are pissed off because Lad was left off of ESPN's list of top 10 rookies. Oh, that is actually very, I would be pissed off. Yeah, so they're mad about that, and I think they're mad fairly, not just because he should be on there

But when they listed what the like stats for each rookie were yeah They had the wrong number of receptions and yards for him. I think they shortchanged by like 150 200 yards. Oh shit Yeah, so there were charges fans are pissed off. They have every right to be pissed off The Bucks this is a big game for them. Huge. So if they lose, back to percentages, if the Bucks lose, their playoff chances are down to 59% if they win, they're up to 87%. And no Anton Winfield, which is big. Also, do you guys know that Justin Herbert's only thrown one interception this year? Yeah. Was it 14 touchdowns? Week two. One pick, so he's gone 11 straight games with no interceptions. Week two. And I think is that the record or he has like one more to go?

I think he has one or one more to go. So if he throws no picks against the Bucs Yeah, then he has the record for most consecutive games started with like a minimum of 15 attempts, I think. Yeah, also the Bucs are gonna want to blitz and Justin Herbert's the best quarterback of the NFL this year against the blitz mm-hmm So what do you got max go talk us through the top 10 list here? Ladam conkey just missed is is the category that they have yeah, I don't agree with that I think they updated those receiving yards for him because they used to be wrong. Yeah, those were lower It was like 600 something wait lab Macaulay just missed and they did a top 10 with 11 because they have a tied for 10th

Yep Brian Thomas and Cooper Jean. Okay. I mean those guys are both Marvin Harris. I don't think Marv is yeah Marvin Harrison shouldn't be on there Joe Walt. Yeah, that makes sense Zach Frazier Malik neighbors. Yeah. Quinion Mitchell, bone next. Number four. Jared first. Wait, hold on. Jane James. You know, too. Brock Bowers one. Brian Thomas isn't there. He was tied for 10. Oh, he's tied for 10, but he was the first. I missed it. That's crazy. Yeah. He's been good rookie class. Good rookie class. He should be in there instead of Marvin Harrison. Yeah

Marvin Harrison 45 receptions Brian Thomas also has been very consistent like Caleb Williams also just missed just missed Okay, I Got no issues with that except for lad lad should be on there. I don't know if Brock should be number one. He's broken records in his position. He's great. But quite literally it's the most important position the NFL. Okay. Oh, yeah. Bucks chargers. I kind of like the chargers. I kind of like the

Bucks. Hmm. Hmm. Kind of like the Bucks quite a lot. I don't know. What are they going to do with Bucky Irving? Is he going to play? Are they going to dangle Bucky around for us again? They're going to screw us? We're going to have to file a lawsuit? They might screw us. Okay. Max, Steelers and Eagles.

Eagles minus five and a half over under is 43. Will Jalen Hurts play better? Eagles minus five and a half over under is 43 Will Jalen hurts play better? He said that he will oh How do you say that? He said that I do well when I'm when criticized or something like that. So he's saying that wait, so then he Brown's criticizing Wrong. He said that when the media and the fans are criticizing AJ Brown did say BG was just being BG talking about Brandon Graham

Mm-hmm, which means everything Brandon Graham said was correct Jordan my lot I had the best response to it He was just joking around saying he was like I'm happy that I'm happy to be talking about it now because the more we can Talk about it now the more we can eliminate and just focus on the steelers sound like a joke. That's a good spin zone No, I was joking about it at first He well, they start off He was like you guys think I did the you guys think I spread the rumor you guys think I spread the rumor And then he was joking and ah started it's glad he went down to classic Jordan my lot

Are you nervous max so the this deal I like the Steelers in this game just cuz Mike Tomlin is an underdog the Stealers have not won in Philadelphia since 1965. Been a long long time. And but Mike Tomlin is an underdog. We've said it a million times. 65% against the spread. He's 5-0 this year straight up and against the spread. So every time he's been an underdog this year, they've won straight up. And more than anything, this is I... Max, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this. This feels like it could be a recipe for disaster where you have an entire week of everyone being like the passing game's broken, Jalen Hurts doesn't look good. So now he's like, I'm going to play better.

I'm going to throw it more versus a really good Steelers defense. I don't think that that's necessarily going to be the case. You think they're going to try to shoot? They're still going to run the ball. Okay. It's a very good the case. You think they're gonna try to shoot? They're still gonna run the ball. Okay, okay. It's a very good defense though. Yeah. Correct.

And we have a very good defense and their best weapon is out. So that's... where are they gonna score? Well they got other receivers. Mike Williams who's... Yeah. He played good last weekend. Okay. It sounds like you're overlooking the Steelers.

I'm not overlooking the Steelers, but the way... It seems like you're underlooking the Eagles. No, I don't think we are at all. I mean, you just went for ten Steelers. We're underlooking the... The Eagles are favored. Correct. So how can we underlook them?

We're underlooking the Steelers. Or the Eagles. Yeah. We're underlooking them. We just said the Eagles? Yeah, we're under looking them We just said that Pittsburgh hasn't won in Philly since 1965 they lost 10 straight. I know but you were saying that as like I don't know Are you how are you feeling on this game? I feel good. You feel good. I feel good. You feel strong Yeah, you feel confident. Yeah, I should I feel confident every week. Jerry said he wasn't going to bring his gun.

Jerry doesn't feel confident. Jerry said he was not going to bring his gun to the guy. I know that was nice of him. Yeah. You can tell Jerry when I'm scared of I'm I'm. I'm scared of Jerry. Yeah. What do you mean you're scared of Jerry? He's you should be if you have to clarify that you're not going to bring your gun. Yeah, no, but he's saying he said I'm're not gonna bring your gun. Yeah, nobody say he said I'm not gonna bring my gun Correct. So that's good. That should make you not scared of Jerry

How clear could it be when he's not bringing his gun, you know, I'm not gonna bring a gun either there you go We're back when Jerry doesn't say that before you should be terrified Yeah, you should when he says he's not gonna bring his gun It's like damn. All right, great Like it's not even the point like he told me that in the cut in the context of if I bring my gun I may shoot You can tell Jerry's nervous though because he is doing the thing where he walks around he's just telling everybody I don't think George Pickens gonna play it all for the He's like out he's according to Jerry George Pickens has retired from the NFL. Yeah, because his hamstring hurts.

Max, can I can I overlook you? Can I stop underlooking you for a second with a stat? Yeah, overlook him. And I love these stats. The rushing yards leaders, Sequon Barkley is in first, right? We know that one thousand six hundred twenty three. Second place, Derek Henry, with one thousand four hundred seven three second place Derek Henry with

1,407 yards You know who third place in the NFL is sake one Barkley in the second half sake one Barkley before contact Wow with 1175 Wow so your offense your offensive line has done a very very very good job for for your boy Quan as you call him Yeah, I mean good offensive line good good running back, good run game. Yeah, that's from Jacob Nero by the way. That's his stat. Steelers have a very good defensive line. Yeah. Jalen Hurts is take sacks on his own. Slides. Are you worried about TJ? Are you worried about TJ Watt hitting Jalen Hurts very hard?

Lane Johnson. What about Alex Highsmith? Jordan Milada. What about Nick Herbig? I don't know. I don't know what you want me to say. He's running out of guys. You just, you just got guys.

We just got guys. Yeah. But I just, I also don't know where that guy plays. So I don't know. Are you worried about getting Russied? That I'm worried about. Yeah. It's going to be an awesome game. I'm so excited for it. are you worried about getting russied that I'm worried about yeah it's gonna be an awesome game I'm so excited should we talk about the Stiegels at all sure so the Stiegels the team that was put together during World War two a combination effort between the Steelers

what did you just say would mean say would mean says he accidentally ordering hot chocolate. Oh, how many is that? Hot chocolate. Oh, no. How do you accidentally order hot chocolate? Yeah, that sounds like something you've ordered before. You order hot chocolate as an adult. No. Yeah, I did take a couple steps of this hot chocolate. It's it's fire. But you but you you you don't accidentally order hot chocolate if you haven't ordered a hot like you've just been Reordering what you always order hot chocolate No How do you accidentally order a hot chocolate it said hot and then I large and then I press the hot large

You just missed the middle word The actual thing he made a mistake once and then he did it again Word the actual thing he made a mistake once and then he did it again We're on the same day in the same episode of this podcast and I had pug get it twice Where are you ordering these from? No free ads. Yes, but you've placed the same wrong order twice in a row in the last 30 minutes, correct? It's a place down the street. Okay Stop looking at the Sun memes. All right. Well,, Stiegels. Yeah, the Stiegels. Uh, there were teams that were put together in 1943, I believe, during World War II when

a lot of players had to be shipped overseas to go fight. The NFL tried to carry on and they, uh, they combined the Eagles and the Steelers into one team called the Stiegels and they finished 5-4 and one, which is the Eagles first winning season officially is how it's been written down in the record books. And I looked at some of their players that they had their leading receiver had 17 receptions named Tony Bova and he was blind in one eye. Oh, I love it. Cause in order to get out of serving in world war two, you usually had to have

like a disability to become a Stiegels. you had to be the few, the proud. Their center was deaf and their kicker and punter Troy Smith had a fake leg. Oh, I would love to go back and find footage. This team won five games. That's awesome. With a deaf receiver and a kicker with one leg. Uh, they also did a draft in 1940, I think it was in 1944, they drafted together.

And they selected a guy named Max Kilbasa. Fucking great name. Max Kilbasa. Great name. That's literally just Max at lunch. Yeah, or that translates to Nick Foles. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a kill boss. Yeah, you have.

Yeah, you definitely have. Definitely. I don't even... Is it a brat? Is that also a brat? Don't lie. You've had a lot of kill bosses. I don't know what to tell you.

Remember we made shirts back... That was actually a really cool shirt. It made no sense. We were just... The Bears and the Eagles were both bad at the same time and we made Philadelphia Beagles shirts. Yeah. Which would have been... That's a sick name. It is a chill Adolfi of Beagles It was a cool shirt. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that dog. It's chill. That's a chill ass dog Just a chill guy, she'll it'll be a Beagles

Those are fucking cool ass Beagles. Do they still sell Stiegels merchandise? I Don't know Don I want Beagles merchandise. Stiegels merchandise. Yeah, I'm sure like Canton probably has something. Oh yeah. Do you think there's anyone wearing a Stiegels? Are there any Stiegels still alive today? No, probably not.

I mean, there might be, but it would be, there's only what? There's only 40 Stiegels Well, yeah, it would all have to get like to they'd be a hundred plus right now And it would have to be somebody that probably had a disability and it also had to be someone who played Professional football in the 40s. Yes, also creates disabilities. Probably not. Yeah, probably not probably lost all of our Stiegels But I do want to see highlights if there's any highlights out there of Stiegels games You need to make a movie about this. Yeah Okay, so max you think they'll cover the five and a half. I don't care about covering. Okay. All right. I like that

I like the Steelers Plus five and a half. Okay. Why is that funny? It's just funny. I don't care about covering anything I know I just want to win the game. Yeah. Yeah, uh Just funny. I don't care about covering anything. I know I just want to win the game. Yeah. Yeah, uh Okay, the big one the big Kahuna bills at Lions Lions minus two and a half over under 54 and a half Thoughts This is getting an awesome game this my thought on this game Is it fucking rocks that we're getting this game in week 15 rocks? So you got two teams double-digit wins playing each other in week 15 rocks so you got two teams double digit wins playing each

other in week 15 the last time that happened was all the way back in 1985 so it's fucking rocks rocks this is a historically fucking rocks matchup yeah I I'm contemplating a game of the year in this game contemplating on the over no this is a very fun over it is it'd be on the buffalo bills okay I love this game for the bills okay last week I had the Rams I kind of saw that coming where it's like hey they just clenched the AFC East they went all the way west I think Josh is playing out of mind. I think this is the week that the the Lions all their defensive injuries I know they might be getting a couple guys back But this is an elite elite offense and Aaron Glenn

I know this from experience because they'll Justin Fields used to play well against lines Aaron Glenn's defenses don't do well Against running quarterbacks. He refuses to a spy The only thing that's holding me back is I think that the Lions are gonna be able to run the ball and like if I get into a situation where the Lions are just grinding them out and then Josh Allen scoring quick touchdown then they're grinding them out that feels scary I'll know on Sunday if I have the balls to do it I'd love it to get to three I don't think it will what's the over under on this game 54 and a half over yeah over the funnest overpaw. I just do that as a game of the year

I mean the game of the years you're gonna do a game of the year. I might not this weekend Hank it's called responsible gambling, but yes would there is a People are like oh, you're gonna do a game of the year 12 hours after Travis Hunter wins the Heisman possibly Oh, that's right. I need to recalibrate my thinking about this weekend, correct Because my bank account that's all I've been thinking about and have game of the year like a Arsenal basically someone's just walking over and just in just loading my gun with bullets and I'm just firing everywhere I'm fast as I can I'm out. I'm Ukraine right what I this I I'm still nervous about Genti. No, no, no, right Oh, right What's done is done? What? I'm still nervous about Gentie. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

Which one is done? Which one is done? The votes are in! It doesn't matter. We still don't know. Alright, here's something that will help you. Ready? Travis Hunter won the AP College Football Player of the Year. And every player who's won that has won the Heisman since Christian McCaffrey. And that award goes out to the best football player of the year, I would imagine. Yeah. Although Gentie did win the Maxwell.

That's fine. Okay. I'm a little nervous. Maxwell. There's so many people on Twitter that keep saying that that Gentie. When I hear Maxwell, I think second place. Yeah, true. That's my name. I mean, listen, if,

That's a coincidence. I have to go to a Christmas party on Saturday night and I'm gonna have to ask for them to put on the Heisman Trophy ceremony while I stand like anti-social, just staring at a TV with probably no sound on it. This is I'm I'll just go home. I'll just leave this happens. I think me and Blake what might get dressed up in suits. Yeah, and sit down on the couch like we're the family and watch this game. But yeah, no, you reminded me I I'm Ukraine right now. I have no bullets

left. And then there's a there's a shipment coming over Yeah, Joe, I'm coming give us a little package and then Sunday you better fucking watch out enough That's why I'm saying game of the year might have might be on but I it feels scary because it's like this The Lions are so good. I'm not saying that No game of the year. It's gonna be a nuclear missile whale play. Okay? Let's just do that bills nuclear missile whale plays what I'm gonna do and we'll save a game of the year for maybe the playoffs Possible Super Bowl preview possible Super Bowl preview. This would be my dream Super Bowl matchup in terms of fans Yes, New Orleans. Holy shit. Would it rock just like partying with Lions and Bills fans all week

Also would be heartbreaking for whoever lost that game. Yes. But also, maybe the most merchandise ever sold the day after the Super Bowl, regardless of fan base. For, we, I threw out this trivia question the other day. Last time, if it was Bill's Lions, when was the last time there was a chance for a first time Super Bowl winner, double chance for first time Super Super Bowl winner the Indians and the Cubs no Super Bowl and also no oh yeah it's like a hundred years yeah double chance first first time Super Bowl you want go to the Super Bowl guarantees a first-time Super Bowl. Do you want go to the Super Bowl guarantees a first time Super Bowl winner?

Patriots Rams, no close Box Ravens Rams Titans. Yes Patriots Rams Rams have won the year before. Oh, yeah. Yeah Rams Titans This would be fun. I mean it doesn't happen very often I hope it doesn't happen very often where you get a chance for a, you guaranteed chance for a new Super Bowl winner. Yeah, so the other parts about the Bills, Keon Coleman and Kincaid I think will be back. That might be, that might push me over the ledge of saying I'm going to have to take

it. Josh Allen's also good against the Blitz. Aaron Glenn's gonna wanna Blitz. He's gonna wanna, like I said, running quarterbacks, not the best. And I just think the Lions, I mean the defense of the Lions is good, but it's also been very banged up.

And this is, the Bills offense is one of the top what, three, like the most elite offenses. So I mean the Lions obviously have one as well. I'm just excited for this game I'm so pumped up for this game I should not I should not make a game of the year because I'm I want to watch I could not bet on this game This game is gonna be so awesome. That's not true. I Could not no you couldn't just like Jerry could not bring his gun I bet you I bet you a thousand dollars that you'll bet on this game. I'm not gonna take that bet I

Thought that there was a chance that you could not bet on this game. Yeah, I'm not gonna take that bet. Okay It's a great bet that I just saw you clear missile whale place offered you a thousand dollars to not lose money Well, no, cuz the minute I say yes, you're gonna be like, well you just bet on this game. I Would have said that yeah You're not mad. I'm not Hank about Max. I mean Max would have fallen for come on in a second in this second They would have walked right into that. Okay last game Seahawks Cardinals Did you guys see that the CIA the Seahawks are plus two and a half over unders 45 and a half with Seahawks are sorry Packers Packers at Seahawks Seahawks plus two and a half over under 45 and a half with Seahawks are sorry packers Yeah, Packers and Seahawks Seahawks plus two and a half over under 45 and a half. Did you see the

Seahawks are calling their defense the death zone. Okay, how you like that? Well in what way are they at the death zone? Is that like on a mountain you just die when you go up against them once you get up a certain altitude? Yeah, they have been really good. I like to buy Legion of Spoon better Legion of Spoon. Oh no Death Zone. What Death Zone? Yeah, I got to earn Death Zone. Legion of Spoon. Yeah, no way in terms of intimidation. Death Zone. You got to earn Death Zone though. Death Zone. Death Zone rocks if you're an elite defense that is like dominating

people. They have been in since the buy. They've been in top five and D. Well, this is a name that have been in since the buy. They've been in top five and D well that this is a name that's come about since the buy. So we entered the death zone after the bar have just started being the death zone. Okay. So yeah, I like it. Also a reminder the NFC North, which this goes against what I just said about the bills, but the NFC North is 28 and three outside of the division. Yep. Or sorry, the Packers Vikings and Lions are 23 outside of the division yep or sorry the the Packers Vikings and

Lions are 28 and 3 outside of the division those three teams those three teams not the NFC North not it's not the whole division not the Bears definitely not the Bears yeah I like I like to see Hawks though yeah this is one of those games I'm sure we all have them but if you have a certain matchup you just think of like the iconic like they had to fail Mary and then obviously the NFC championship game it's fun when you have these matchups for you you'd immediately be like oh yeah I've seen this and it was fucking crazy you just might yeah this might just be a wild ending to a game right right you just have wild endings in your head

when you see that matchup um This is gonna be a great afternoon of football boys. I can't wait for it. Max is stressed. I wish one of those games was in afternoon. I do too. They could have given us, well no they couldn't have given us Bucks Chargers. They could have given us Lions. It would have been nice. I would have taken Lions. Eagle Steelers too. I would have taken Lions. Eagle Steelers too.

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collectively? Yeah, a lot. Yikes. Yikes. Who's up first? That'd be me. I feel like you went first last week. Hank went first. I feel like it was you. You sure? Yes. I feel like that was you.

Memes, what about the graphic that you put out besmirching my NBA Cup reputation? My apologies. I don't make the graphic. You don't make a lot of graphics, huh, buddy? I make memes. My name is memes. Because every time there's a graphic, you're like, I don't make that one. Yeah, I mean, putting the own three up there when it was not on three is a dirty move. No, that was McCarthy's fault.

He's a scumbag. Yeah, everyone knows that. My apologies. I'll take the Jets minus three. Mm, OK. I am going to take Colts Broncos under 44. Ooh. Okay. Interesting. I'm going to take the Arizona Cardinals minus six. Love that number six. I'm going gonna take the

Buffalo Bills plus two and a half I'm going to take the over in that game 54 and a half like it and I'm going to take the Yeah box plus two and a half Plus two and a half. Box plus two and a half. Okay. You know what? Give me the over 46 and a half Patriots Cardinals. Give me what's I didn't look at the weather. What do you need? I got you. I need the Cleveland weather forecast. Don't have it. Thought I had you. If you had asked me Seattle, I would have said rain. I'm can I can I ask Max to bring up the weather forecast? Yes. Sunday rain Sunday should have said rain. No, that's yeah, that's rain. That's grapple. That's could be rain. Okay, I'm gonna stay away. Glad I looked at the weather forecast. I'm gonna take the

over in the commies Saints 44. Nice dome. Dome. I will take the Bengals minus five against the Titans. Okay, memes. I will do Texans Dolphins over 46 and a half Okay, and a reminder. Let me see this the the standings again We we got to remember for standings We got to start going back to the point system because that makes it a lot easier to follow memes has 14 points Hank has 13 and a half points. I have 13 points Pft has 12 points

Max has 11 and a half points. So it's anyone's game anyone's game. It's anyone's game. We are all within Yeah, we're all within two and a half points. Whoa, that's crazy. We're all so so bad together, which I appreciate Yeah, it would be really bummer if one of us was just like insanely good right now or one of us was insanely insanely bad We all just are like bad. We're very bad. Yeah, we're not insanely bad, right? We're all well, no memes is bad Hank is bad. I'm Really like not really bad, I'm I'm really bad

Pft is really bad max. You're really bad getting close to insanely bad I'm a half. I'm what I'm just telling you what the records are saying. Yeah, like I don't get it wrong. Wait, i'm a half But look at it. It's a half a point behind bft. He's 12 and 17. You're 11 17 You in one how are you and pft the same when you guys are a full point away from each other and Because 13 and 12 look very similar 11 11 looks as a different, but it's 11 and a half But 13 not 13 and 12 look very similar number wise 11 is totally an outlier But you're forgetting about the half yeah I get that but max you just have to accept where you are right now by the time next week comes around

I might be insanely bad Like if I go oh and to 12 and 19, I would say that's insanely bad. Yeah Like that's that's pretty much I'm losing almost twice as much as I'm winning. Yeah 13 18. I'd be insanely bad I also feel horrible about my picks this weekend. What were they again? Yeah, one was bad Bengals minus five. Yeah, it's bad pick What was the other one? Colts Broncos under. Yeah, it's bad pick. What was the other one? Colts Broncos under 44. That's a bad pick. I mean you know, I actually like the Bengals pick. No, I hate to but it's a bad pick I like that pick Good pick. It's a bad pick Anyone could be in last other than memes anyone could be in last place at the start of next week and also

For the AWL sake mean Hank memes is the one that everyone should be rooting against or rooting for. Do you, I don't think they want you at your bachelor party. You're a fun guy. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine going to the bachelor party and having them just like bust your balls the entire time. Me and Hank would also be boring. just like bust your balls the entire time. Me and Hank would also be boring. No.

Oh, no. No, that's wrong. But we're both in bachelor party age. I'm saying for the- That's why you'd be great. You'd be great, Max. But the funniest outcome would be either- I understand the funniest, but I also would not like, I have, I could, I could-

If I went on- You would find a way to go for like six hours. If I went on a bachelor party, I have, I'm like, I got, I got four innings of like, like low nineties fast. You would do a Chicago bachelor. Yeah. I go to a Cubs game. We go to a Cubs game. I'd get drunk. I'd go home. Yep. I didn't have to travel. I'd have to travel. I would be a lot of fun for one night. Yeah. One night. And then after that night's over, I'm, I just be miserable We have very talking about different aspects of my hangover for the next seven hours. We have very few details We like we have we haven't put out any ground rules to this. Hey might just not come back

Hank might have such a great time on your bachelor party that he just goes wherever you go He's just hoping it's a golf trip. Yeah Max you'd be fun on the party Yeah, we also need to figure out who's film filming whatever that's later thing. Yeah, that's whatever forget it All right Let's let's do fancy fuck boys before we get to an awesome interview of Nick Foles in studio Fantasy fuck boys brought to you by body armor this segment is brought to you by body armor real hydration segment is brought to you by Body Armor. Real hydration, real ingredients, packed with electrolytes, vitamins, and nothing artificial.

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Thank you for coming here. Have you been harassed by any of our Philly fans yet? Because they're lingering. The buzz of Nick Foles in the office was, we said it I think a couple days ago, and all the Philly fans were like, oh my god, I got to wear my best Kelly green shirt, like Nike shoes and, and all that stuff. They dressed up for you. They did. And I wouldn't say harassed. I'd say it's, it's love. Okay.

You know, it's just, you know, there's that Philly love. There's some weird time about last night when you, you've been a part of Philadelphia, you're from Philadelphia. There's just something special about it. And you know, I know you being a Bears fan, you're longing for that. It's been since the mid eighties. So, you know, we've had it more recently and we're Eagles are doing pretty good right now. So there's a lot of love to go around. It was, I mean, he walked in today and Paige was showing the inside of her shoes to him. Yeah. Hey, like look at this type of green I got. You know what? Inside the shoes, it's like the streets of Philly, of South Philly, the heart of Philly. I mean,

Nike did those shoes. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I got to show them. If there's one city to be a legend in Philadelphia would be a pretty good one. Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a, it's an awesome city. I mean, if any of y'all have ever been to a game in the link, I mean, it is a amazing place to be the home team. Yeah. If you're their way team, it sucks, but there's also a lot of places in the NFL. It's that way, right? You know, there's a lot of home field advantages, but, um, Philly's amazing, you know, going back there, I'm not one to want all the limelight. So going back there and walking around and I love seeing everyone, but I'm not built for that. Like I I'm more of a laid back, like even kill, like I don't mind going to the grocery store,

not getting recognized and stuff. So, but it's a lot of love in Philly. I mean, you have a statue, right? Yeah, there, there is one of the statue outside the stadium. It's a good statue. It's a bad statue. It looks like me. Yeah, it actually looks like me. There's been some statues, uh, the last several years that just aren't great. So whoever, you know, created the statues, it's fantastic Yeah, an iconic moment that will that will stand the test of time. That's got to be cool to think about it's like Philadelphia will always remember this one moment and you're you're a hero forever in their eyes. And yeah, Philly fans They can be a little bit over the top sometimes but they also have your back Were they ever down on you as a quarterback where you felt like the wrath of the Philly fans?

I mean, I would say down, never the wrath, but yeah. I mean, I think part of being a Philadelphia athlete or quarterback is they're gonna be down at you at times because you're not perfect. You're gonna throw intercession. You're gonna have some bad games. You might even have a length of bad games and it's gonna be tough.

You're gonna get booed. I mean, I've even had a great game and thrown like 300 completions. You're gonna get a couple of boos. But I think you just have to start owning that and realize that is the city and they have your back, they love you, but you also have to buy into that and you have to understand their perspective.

Blue car, hardworking city, their grandparents, their moms, their dads took them to games, now they're taking their kids to games. It's a generational place, so there's a lot of heartbreak and that's where the Super Bowl year was so special because we finally were able to break that heartbreak. And now there's a Super Bowl there. They want more, but that's just part of it.

You gotta understand that. Do you think that maybe you screwed up by that one season that you had? I forget how many interceptions. There were just a few, just two interceptions, right? Over the course of one year. 27 and two? 27 touchdowns, two interceptions.

Was that a mistake on your part to do that? Because you set the expectations. So if you throw perfect football, you throw like nine interceptions the next year, they're like, this guy sucks. You know what? Uh, it was amazing having that year and I was having so much fun playing in chip system. It was like playing basketball. You're just letting it rip, playing point guard. And then, you know, it was different, you know, the next year, halfway through the season I got injured, but I think I had thrown like 10 interceptions. Everyone thought like the, everything was injured, but I think I had thrown like 10 interceptions, everyone thought like everything was falling apart, but like I was still like, we were still playing well,

we were six and two, but I think you do set expectations so high that you can't keep meeting that, cause there's always changes in the off season, the offense starts evolving, coaches leave, players leave, so, but yeah, I think I definitely set expectations really high in 13. Yeah, and also I would assume like assume like playing quarterback, you know, like there's an element of luck to have that specific like 27 and two, you know, like, okay, a couple of them might've

been dropped that won't go my way next year. Oh, for sure. I mean, I had one, you know, we're going back in time, but I think it was after the seven touchdown game, we're in green Bay and I threw like a post route down the middle to D Jack and I think it went through like two corner and a safety's hands and then just popped up and D Jack caught it and just walked in backwards and I'm just like all right you just feeling it you got to take the luck and the juice and that favor when it comes yeah but we had a lot of it that year and you know we were fortunate to you know unfortunately

we didn't win the playoff game but but we still had a good year. Yeah, so your Super Bowl season, Carson Wentz gets hurt in that Rams game. You come in and you're like, what's going through your mind when you come in? Because you're a really good team and that's a, it's a weird spot to be in, in the fact that you've been rolling as a team and you know that this team has big time aspirations.

And now everyone's gonna look at you and be like, all right, dude, don't fuck this up. Was there, did you feel that this team has big-time aspirations and now everyone's gonna look at you and be like alright, dude Don't fuck this up was there. Did you feel that pressure? Were you like this team is so good? I'm I feel like almost supported by everyone I mean Carson as we all know was having an MVP Caliber you right here and then when he got hurt on the plate he actually stayed in through a touchdown the next play And I knew something was wrong because I've been around him enough I knew I know how tough he is so I knew something was wrong, because I had been around him enough, I knew how tough he is,

so I knew something was wrong when he came off and they took him up, I knew it was gonna be probably bad, just from being around him and knowing his toughness. And you know, your body knows when something like that, I'm about to step in, so all of a sudden the adrenaline changes, the nerves start coming,

your stomach starts getting what we say, butterflies. And I think the key in that is I just took a moment, took a deep breath, just said a prayer, and just was like, you know what? I'm not gonna be out there alone. I'm with 10 other guys in the huddle, and I have a great team around me. I need to do my job.

I still have to execute at a high level. I can't just go out there and just sit there and hope someone else is gonna make a play. I'm a quarterback. I have to make a play. But I also know there's like an acclamation period, so there was grace and understanding. But that was from my previous part of my career and playing football my

whole life. I think you have expectations to go out there and if you don't meet them, then all of a sudden gets in your head. I knew I would need to acclimate. So I gave myself grace and eventually it hit at the right time. But yeah, I mean, the nerves start hitting. I'm human, man. The next day, I mean, I'm in a QB room, just Nate Subfel and I watching film and we know what's happened we get the news about Carson and I say we were watching film we had the film on we did not watch film that day because we were both going through Emotions because we're we're going to the playoffs. We have a great team and then we realized it's on our shoulders So we just talked about that and hashed it out as humans do because it's a lot of pressure

But having that brother like Nate there during that time, you know, we developed such a brotherly bond that will last for life. I'm so grateful I had him, but that was the realness after the situation. It's like, we're not in there watching film. We're dealing with the emotions of what is about to happen. So you get to the Super Bowl that year and you're going up against the Patriots.

What were your feelings? What was the mentality that you had going into that game? Because the Patriots, obviously, Dynasty, one of the greatest football teams of all time, right in the thick of their groove that they had. What was the mentality going into that game because the Patriots obviously Dynasty, one of the greatest football teams of all time, right in the thick of their groove that they had. What was the mentality going into that game to prepare yourself to compete and eventually beat them? Yeah I think the biggest thing leading up to that, I mean you get a bye week before the Super Bowl so you have that time at home to go through a normal prep week. So the biggest thing was preparation and

then eliminating distractions. So a lot of going into the Super Bowl there's a lot of hoopla and then you know you got a lot of tickets and you're trying to get family there. So my wife was the instrumental part of taking control of all that. So I didn't have to deal with it. So I could just focus on ball. Wasn't on my phone a lot. Wasn't like, I might have talked to my dad once. I was just so locked in because we have so much respect for the Patriots.

One of the greatest dynasties, if not the greatest dynasties in NFL sports history. We know what we're going against. So just the preparation, the Patriots, one of the greatest dynasties, if not the greatest dynasties in NFL sports history. We know what we're going against. So just the preparation, the hard work, testing things at practice, being super aggressive at practice to test my limitations. And going into the game, I felt like we had a great preparation in those two weeks, and we shredded all our papers, and we hit all our stuff,

and in the walkthrough, we had 13 to 15 guys, so if they did have cameras in the stadium, you know, we were set. So when we do our stuff and in the walkthrough we had 13 to 15 guys so if they did have cameras in the stadium you know yeah we're set so like when we do our walkthrough in the stadium when we did our Super Bowl picture like we literally had 13 guys in the huddle and we just said do whatever you want and we're like hiding simple place oh you had like decoy guys running weird yeah you know what I think it's just you know I understood that you want to take precautions yeah even like when we got sheets of paper at the hotel like you done with that I'm like yeah, we got a new one

They'll give it to me and they shred it right there Wow Like going through your trash, you know what any you know, the teams want the advantage I mean we see it in sports all the time Every team's trying to find the advantage to get the upper hand so but going into the game so much respect for the Patriots But I you know Doug Peterson and, you know, even like when I play for any read, the biggest thing they talk about is faceless opponents. Like, don't like think about like who they are,

their history or what's on their helmet, just like their objects out there. So just treat them as objects and play them and do your job and just execute the play. So I just kept it simple. All right, so I need an honest answer here. Was there any part of you when you got, you know, in you're getting in the game you're getting the flow of the game You're like man. It would probably be a lot harder if Malcolm Butler was out there

You know what? I didn't even think about that. I was opponents Yeah, I didn't even like even like, you know Gilmore out there like yeah, who's one of the greatest DB's of all time I didn't even think about it. I really, because I had so much trust in my guys that I didn't really care who was on them. And I know afterwards that was a topic and everything. And you know, Malcolm Butler, a great player, physical player, you know, they were talking about how he'd, you know, be up in the grill holding on the guys, getting them off the line. But I still take Alshon any day of the week or any of my guys. And I have so much respect for Malcolm. Like that's not me taking a slide. That's just my mindset with them and my my teammates know that like I would tell them like

I don't care if there's two guys on you Make a play right at worst-case scenario knock the dang ball down But make a play and I think when you tell your teammates that and they know that that gives them a little bit extra juice When they're going there, but hey, he's gonna throw me the ball even if I'm covered So I better just be ready and I better be aggressive and they know that, that gives them a little bit extra juice when they go out there and be like, hey, he's gonna throw me the ball even if I'm covered, so I better just be ready and I better be aggressive. Yeah, and Alshon was one of those guys who could make the play whenever he was covered.

He would go up and get it and be physical. What, the Philly special play, when that happens, we walk us through it because I mean, it's still a really cool thing to watch even the mic'd up where it's like the moment where you guys kinda, I don't know if it was you or Doug who first said, hey, should we do this? Was it you?

Yeah, I ran over there. We had a play call beforehand and we called a timeout, so I ran over to Doug and he just, sometimes you have this instinct, like, hey, this play could work. You go run over to your coach, it's almost like you're in high school or middle school and you're like, hey, you want Philly Philly.

And the head said, goes quiet, Doug's gotta make a decision. He can say no, but Doug was the quarterback coach my my quarterback coach my rookie year He he worked me out at Westlake high school So there's a lot of history between me and Doug and a lot of trust So I think in that situation he knew that my instincts were you know, he trusted it I mean if I'm gonna go over there and ask for Philly Philly Well, I'm running a route right raised on the ball and Corey's pitching it to him and we're doing the lane lane stuff

Like he's probably thinking like if Nick's feeling confident about this right now, this is the one time we probably should run it. So I'm just grateful he allowed us to do it. And then you know, going in the huddle, the biggest thing was just not to smile because I was excited to run it because I didn't think we'd be like talking about it here and I'd be signing Philly special autographs all the time. Yeah, it was a play that has a great name that just worked. Yeah. You just needed six points on fourth and one going into halftime. Like I, to me,

that's what that play was. It was not like, Hey, I'm going to run this play and I'm going to sign autographs for it afterwards. I know, no, this play will, they're not going to expect me to go on a route. They're going to be in man coverage. They're not going to account for me and it's going to work. We just have to, you know, get the lane lane stuff Corey's gotta get this snap There's a lot of moving parts in right, but that was the best we ever ran it and trade through an absolute dime Was there any part of you when the ball is in the air? We're like don't fuck this up because that is it was so you were so wide open Yeah, and it was right there that it's like that actually can happen where guys no doubt will like you'll stare at it for so long they'll drop it you know previous in the game

this is no sight of him because you know Tom's the greatest yeah but Tom they had ran a similar one it was different but you know a quarterback going out and passing you know it was right where I was standing on the sidelines like I saw it go through his fingertips and drop it in my mind that might have even put it like more at the forefront of my mind watching him do it like all right we're gonna get this called but I'm gonna make sure I look this thing in and I don't care if I look like an idiot I'm gonna look it in like I'm like in elementary school, right? Catch the ball. Yeah, I just need to catch I don't want to drop it or act cool. Not that Tom was I think Tom just to taking a rib shot or something So yeah, he was feeling it

But no, I I felt confident I mean, I, I felt confident. I mean, I, you know, basketball player growing up, I, you know, they, the reason they had me going on routes because before every game I go out there catching one handed passes and throwing it all around, like I'm a kid so I can get that like kid feel warm up the body so I can catch the ball one hand and all that. I was not going to do it on that play though. I was going to look that thing in and you see me, I make the triangle and everything. Yeah, It was like picture perfect. Yeah. You, you look like a 12 year

old or like trying to figure out how to, you know, catch a pass. So now when I coach you sports, I say, even, you know, when you're in the soup bowl, I'm making the triangle. I'm keeping my hands together. I'm not, you know, trying to do all this stuff. So I have a teaching photo and a teaching me going out and around. Yeah. So when you guys practice it that week, you said that was the best that you'd run it was during the game. Were you confident in the play? How many times did you practice it beforehand?

We had it in before we played the Vikings in the divisional round. We put it in the bye week. And any great trick play, Doug Peters and Andy Reno say it needs marination. There's always food terms with those guys. They love food, so marination. You gotta let it set, marinate till it's ready. That know, that, that does sound like Andy Reid, right? Well,

that's where it comes from. So, you know, we had it in and we probably ran it full speed, maybe like twice the whole month and then walked through a few times. So it was, I don't even know if I asked Doug right now, if he really thought he was going to call it that game. We had talked about it, but he might've just been making me feel better. I mean, I just talked to Jason Kelsey about it a couple of weeks ago and he said when I called him in the huddle, he's like, we're calling this play. So I didn't know he felt that way, but you're not. Now we can all look back and you know, be really happy about it, but that was the best we had ever ran it. And you know, the best trade through it and everything. The craziest part about that play,

if you watch it back is to that it, Torrey Smith was wide open as well. Yeah. He was not. I was the only option. Yeah. I know you were the only option, but it was like such a well drawn up play. Like he was running over the middle wide open. Yeah. Yeah. He's just supposed to Alshon supposed to, you know, create confusion. Torrey supposed to create confusion and then they're supposed to drop me. Yeah. And it worked like that. Yeah. You mentioned Tom Brady and how he was not able to catch the ball earlier, but do you know that to this day, like he has a hard time saying your name, you're like his kryptonite. He just won't even acknowledge you. You know, I, and honestly, I think that's a, you know, a huge sign of, so I respect Tom so much. I feel like that is his way of giving me respect.

You know, I've actually had a time to FaceTime him and he actually shared that, you know, there's just a lot of respect and he, you know, he's such a competitor. There's a reason he's the greatest of all time because he has those emotions and, you know, he's not focusing on all his Super Bowl wins. He's focusing on where he could have been better

and that's why he's so great. And that's why, you know, I know even in broadcasting, he's, you know, working to continue to grow. I mean, everything he's why he's so great. And that's why, you know, I know even in broadcasting, he's working to continue to grow. I mean, everything he does, he's always working. That's like in his DNA. So I take it as a sign of respect for him. And you know, that's saying a lot to have that from Tom. Yeah, there was a famous clip in the Patriots documentary,

the Dynasty documentary. Did you see that? I didn't watch it, but I heard some things. Okay, so they had, um, they had the NFL films version of the Philly special and they put that in and he edited out foals. Like the word foals has actually been removed from that as they broadcast. I think that's a pretty healthy mentality to have to be like, you know what? Tom Brady wouldn't do this about somebody that he isn't,

that he doesn't respect because you beat him No for sure. And I but I think you have to like realize that I think at first like oh man But then you realize like you know what that is a sign of respect. So you just it's perspective. So yeah All admiration for Tom and that's cool You know, we like I said, we've faced time since then and I know for a fact It's just a you know, he has a lot of respect for me and that means a lot He probably thinks about you all the time. Yeah, I mean, I hope, I hope not. I don't think about it. Hopefully, hopefully think about better things than me. Yeah. She mentioned

something there when you're talking about like the, you know, you played basketball and you, that's how you'd warm up. You, a lot of guys obviously in the NFL are like, yeah, this, I had another sport that I was really good at. You got recruited by George tech. You got offered by Georgetown recruited I would say you know I could have played potentially D1 I mean those guys are so dynamic though I was a good basketball player no I mean you it sounds like you were a great basketball player if those if Georgetown Baylor in Texas were all looking at you yeah they were all looking you know potentially would have had a chance to play at

Baylor but you know ended up at Michigan state my first year, but you know, basketball and football, you know, if you, there's just, there's such a different feeling when you step on the court, you know, basketball, I mean, football, when you're playing quarterback, like you're, you're trying to think about execution, uh, you know, making sure, you know, you're always thinking about like, all right, protections, you gotta be protected first, all these different things. Basketball, you're just like, I'm going to let it rip. You make a mistake on the basketball court, you can fix it on the defensive end. Right, and exposition is right.

Football's very different. Football's very different, so there's a different emotion. My brother-in-law, both of them played basketball in college. One was a two-sport, Evan was a two-sport athlete at Stanford, played in the NFL for five years, has a tight end, and we talk about it all the time, going to the football game, you're just thinking about execution, doing your job, basketball,

you're just like going out there and just letting it rip. Yeah. What was your game like? What was your, you know, I was all over the place. I was a big, you know, three point shooter, but obviously being, you know, six, five, and I was probably in high school, you know, two 35, I take it down low, big, you know, aggressive with rebounding, um, a little bit of everything. Yeah. You know, definitely, you know, shot some threes. When could you when could you first palm a basketball because your hands are huge? Yeah, I palmed it in middle school. First, first time I dunked it was eighth grade. Wow, she's so that's

pretty cool. That's pretty awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. So when you went to Michigan State, I know that is oh, likes to get basketball players sometimes to compete against the football team. Yeah, like toughen them up and to learn how to rebound. Did you ever get that call? I never got that call. When I went to the University of Arizona though, in the off season, we did a lot of pickup ball.

We had a lot of great basketball players on our football team. So we would scrimmage the basketball team at the rec center. So we had a lot of good battles with the basketball team. And that was fun. Because those guys, I mean, basketball players, and I just went to an NBA game not long ago,

and those guys are just so talented. Like the guys on the court are just so athletic big fast Like the way they can play the way they can shoot I mean, I think I saw like ten straight baskets made and then you go watch college college players are amazing as well But it's definitely different than the NBA. Okay. It's always the shot making the NBA always just try it Like it's it always shocks me because like they just do not miss Open shots they don't no matter what no, it just doesn't happen and college you see it all the time. Yeah, they just drain it Yeah, every single time. All right So I have to ask you and I don't know how much insight you can give me but you obviously you played for the Bears for

two years You also were kind of on a team that's kind of like this year's bears and the fact that it's a young quarterback and they're transitioning coaches and you were there for the last year in Nagy. Shoot me straight, how much of a clusterfuck is it at House Hall? Just from an organizational standpoint. You know what? They're sort of in this cycle that it's just not a healthy cycle. You know what they're sort of in this cycle that it's just not a healthy cycle Yeah, and what I why I say that is you know you look back to their last three Draft picks at quarterback, you know you got Mitch you got Justin you got Kale right so They're coaching staff at the end of their like their proven year. They draft a quarterback in the first round

So they get that rookie quarterback for one year They throw them out there with they've been struggling their lawn their last leg They have to win that year to stay there and if not, they're gone. So they bet on everything So then they get the rookie quarterback gets one year with the coaching staff and then they're they just been fired Yeah, because it and then that rookie quarterback who mind you all three of those guys are outstanding players, you know Caleb's a great player, Justin, Mitch, all outstanding players. Then they have to get a whole new regime

with a whole new offense after taking a beating and going through that psychological battle as a rookie. Where you come from college, you're the man, you're a first round pick, you have all this confidence. Not saying you lose it all, but it takes a hit. And then you have a whole new staff. And then you have to deal with that again. So it's not a great cycle.

You'd rather, as ownership and everything, if you know that, don't let them draft a quarterback, even at the end of their leg. You want a new staff come in, choose a court. Now fortunately, they've inherited three great quarterbacks. Yeah. It just hasn't worked out. So my hope for them is, because playing for Chicago for two years and just seeing how much the bears fans love the bears and how much they want to succeed. You know, they had the great year in 2018 that, you know, I was with the Eagles. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the only great year for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. They just, you know, they're not far away. There's, you know, I was in the locker room there. It feels so far away. You literally were in you because you were last year Mitch first year Justin, right? Yes Yeah, so you have you seen it you see I know it you you know It is intimate as you can you watched it happen where it's like and then not only first year Justin But last year Nagy. Yeah, and they and you know when I was there like the locker room was so good Like the we had good talent. We had great leadership. We had great guys. We had a locker room was so good like the we had good talent we had great leadership we had great guys we had a locker room that could win um because i had seen winning locker rooms yeah i

i was like we have a winning locker room they're just missing some pieces outside it and what i've seen you know through my career is when i started my career i always thought it's the locker room it's locker room and that is a huge part but what helps create the locker room is top down you know you know when i was in Philadelphia, just with Mr. Lurie, just how he approached ownership. In Kansas City, the Hunt family. I always say about Mr. Lurie is like, he was at a lot of practices,

and before every game he's in there and he goes around and shakes everyone's hand. And then he wants to win just as bad as anyone. Not saying that's different like in Chicago, but they're gonna make those plays, you know, howie roseman super aggressive right with getting guys So I don't know. I mean, I love the locker room when I was here. I love my teammates when I was here It was unfortunate. We didn't have success. I mean coach Nagy's had great success since he's gone back to KC I mean now what does he have two rings? Yeah, I mean patch rooms

I mean Pat Pat definitely helps but you know, they have a yeah yeah, I'm going to give those to patched homes anyway. I'm not going to let you do that. But yeah, no, I, I, so, so what is a locker room? Like a win, when you say winning locker room, cause I agree, like obviously we don't, we don't know the intimacy of an NFL locker room, but it does feel like culture matters a lot. And yeah, talent is important, but like guys who feel like they want to die for each other can go a long way. Yeah. And how does that, is there a certain amount of leaders?

Is there a certain amount of, or is it like you said, top down, the owner, the GM, the coach, they all have to be aligned? You know, you definitely want an alignment up there. I think you gotta have a strong head coach. You gotta have a strong personality that when they take the job, you know, you, you see a lot of coaches that take a lot of input from outside sources or like the ownership like, and then it changes the way that they view how they'd run a team.

Um, I always go to the example of Andy Reed. I think any reads the greatest, I love coach Reed. Andy Reed has a way he knows he's going to coach and you're not going to change. He's enlisted to input, but big red is's gonna make the best decision. Like you might think like you have said something that's really gonna impact and change the way thought. He knows what's best for the pulse of his team and he's gonna take you that direction. He's gonna lead. Whereas sometimes we listen to outside sources and then we like you know what because so-and-so said this I need to do it. Maybe ownership said hey you need to do this and then you do it coach Reed they trust coach Reed

rightfully so to make those decisions and do those things so in my opinion you know ownership's got to be strong but you have to have a head coach that can take the reins and he just goes and he makes all those decisions but when he's in front of the team like you have a lot of guys and a lot of different personalities and a lot of different backgrounds which I think is so awesome about like football because you come together as one ego on the field as one and you there's you know All these different backgrounds, but you need someone at the you know lead of it the head coach It's like gonna You know do all that like you know coach Tomlin like how much success has he had in Pittsburgh with all these different things

You know he has a way he leads that is his way. It's no one else's. He's not gonna be anyone else. So if I'm getting a head coach, I'm gonna be like, hey, I wanna coach with a personality that's gonna move a room. Now, the locker room, you gotta have talent, you gotta have guys, and you gotta put egos to the side to be great.

Because if egos come in, it can be, you know, toxifying to a locker room. But what helps that is a head coach that sees that and stops it before it gets started. So I don't know, Andy Reid was always a great, you know example for me in doing that Yeah, he also had Big Dom. I help I think Big Dom helps the locker room, too You know Big Dom, you know, he has a great pulse on the locker room and the guys

And you know, he's one of my you know, just being in Philadelphia just going and sitting with Big Dom and as you know His office is one tenth this side. side is literally just like a little story. He loves it. He loves it. Um, you know, he has a great cause they're not going to let things fly there. You know, if something's going on, they're going to, you know, nip it in the butt. They're going to knock it out. They're not going to let it fester. They're going to find a way to get through it. And that's why they have success in Philadelphia. That's why they,

the teams that have success when things become toxifying to locker room, they stop it before it gets started. Whereas, you know, teams that ultimately fall apart, it's the coach feels uncomfortable to like step in because of the, you know, maybe it's like a high paid player or something like that. And it's scary, but like, we're all human beings. We're all players.

We want to succeed at this level. Sometimes we just need a coach to come in and intervene and like, you know, separate and then let's talk this thing on. Usually when you talk it out and you put everything on the table, we usually get through it. I mean, that's part of it. Do you think big Dom had AJ Brown and Jalen hurts have a sit down? You know what? I have no information on that. Um, I do know if that surprised you if big Dom was like, Hey boys, we've got to have a sit down. It would not surprise me if big Dom came over and say, Hey, no, like that would not surprise me if big Dom came over hey no like that would not surprise me yeah but I have no idea if that

happened yeah that's fair no I do have another big Dom question just walk me through like what's big Dom's day today what does he do you know what when I was there it's very different the guy you know big Dom's a celebrity now I mean he's going to like you know take pictures and sign a hug ask me he's he's big sexy so you know his day to day I August. I mean, he's, he's big sexy. So, uh, you know, his day to day, I mean, he's there in the morning, he goes to his office. I mean, I could not tell you everything that man does. That man is a secret weapon for the Philadelphia Eagles. That way for a long time, but it's funny just seeing him, you know, being around

him and that's my guy and just seeing him in his track suits. And yeah, he's the best. He used to be the best kept secret. And me and big cat were upset that we don't know about big Dom until just a couple years we were mad at Max on the 49ers game when big Dom was introduced to America we're like you've been keeping this from us yeah why isn't big Dom here with me right now I should be he sent us some footballs I think autographs and footballs he called he texts me he calls me my he says you're my paisans to us so he's we're I think we're big Dom approved and then at the Super Bowl and he was I I forget what he said like I was like kid rock on mushrooms or something Compliment I've ever almost arrested

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sports guy. I'm sure he has some questions for you. He said many, many questions. Oh, we got to put the headphones on the right next to Oh, I got it. Yeah, there you go. Look at that. I said few for the record. Okay few So how many is a few? I think I have three three questions. I didn't write any of them down, but you also Screwed up Nick giving him like a short cord on the right. I'm making it work. That's Hank. That's Hank Yeah, okay. Hank also, by the way couldn't't listen He didn't have his headphones on the entire time back here He couldn't listen couldn't listen to a single word that he was saying Hank's he's like Tom Brady and he literally left

Yeah, he walked out He walked out for a meeting I'll give him credit for that Yeah, right. He was talking about the Super Bowl. He said he couldn't he couldn't listen. He couldn't listen All right, go ahead Max. First of all, I want to thank you for everything you've done for the city of Philadelphia and for the people of Philadelphia. You're the best and I love you. This is very similar to what Luca Brasi and the Godfather, practicing his speech, like,

hey, I just wanted to thank you on your daughter's wedding day. Yep. He's got his notes right in front of him, so he's good. Yeah, of course he does. I got nothing. You can see what I'm looking at. First question, Philly Philly call, had you ever gone to Peterson before and recommended

another call or was that a one and done situation? You know, I've definitely had times in my life where I've gone over to coaches and recommended plays. You know, before the Philly Philly call with Doug, I'm sure we talked about things on the sideline. The next big moment play call that I ran over the Doug for was actually against the Bears in the playoff game. I was like, Hey, let's do Q8 to Golden Tate. And let's just run it because we had two plays called and they were doing like a zero zero

hole coverage, which basically means it looks like they're bringing everyone but they can also drop out and so that was the next time but that was the next year so there's only a few times that I've run over there because usually you know Doug's a great play caller so I mean most of the time when he called plays I had to prove and I knew what he was thinking that was the biggest thing with quarterbacks that if you have a quarterback system to this the biggest thing you can do is you know know your your play caller and why they're calling a play, you know, that's the what's the intentionality of the play? So I knew that with Doug so I really never had to do that other than that

Were you confident that he was gonna say yes to that? I mean that is crazy call You know what? I think me mispronouncing the name of the play the Philly special and asking for Philly Philly I don't know if it was all the commercials on TV or what it was that were going Philly Philly. Maybe rattled his brain to where he just said yes. But no, we had talked about it. We were more thinking second half, go up by two scores, safer place to do it, not fourth and one in that situation.

But at the same time, like I said, when a quarterback runs over there and you trust the quarterback, a lot of times the coach goes with it. Okay, that was great. That was it? No, no, no, no, no, I got more. He's letting it soak in.

He just thought about that memory one more time. That's good. That was great, I'll never forget where I was. Okay, I know it's been said before I think in like different media outlets What where did the hungry dogs thing start and like what was the story of that came from there? Yeah, hungry dogs run faster Was from you know and this is from my knowledge And you know I'll get fact-checked but from Jeff Stoutland the offensive line coach who is still at Philadelphia

And you know he's with Chip Kelly, Doug Peterson and you know now with Sirianni he's just an amazing O-line coach does a great job has loved the guys love him I mean the line play consistently since 2013 has been fantastic and that's one been because of the O-lineman and the quality of alignment but also because of Coach Stoutland so that's one of his sayings is you know hungry dogs run faster And that's the mentality he wanted from his own line and then you know the underdog stuff came in because you know We were one of the top teams

statistically Going into the playoffs, but then when I took over we then became the least feared which they we printed all over our facility So even when you went to the restroom and you went number two Where you thought you could have peace from everything you look to your right and it's just on the wall So there was there was a reminder like what it reminded me of is like don't take anything for granted No one expects every anything from us. So put in the work. So coached out like that was Forever that wasn't just because that they were underdogs in every game like all year he was saying hungry dogs run fast That's what I thought from what I know that's always been one of his sayings in the O line

And then it just sort of transformed to the underdog mentality And then you know underdog mentality with what what is underdog will hungry dogs run faster But once again now I got another host Guest for y'all get get coached out on the show. Yeah, you'd be better me Yeah, no, I think he just they just came out with NFL films about him Last night. I didn't get to watch. Yeah, he's fantastic. He's I mean, he's fantastic. Yeah Eagles O-line always the best Yep. All right last question I think Talked a little bit a little bit about the Philly media. They like to emphasize drama

What was a quarterback room like when you were when you were taking over? Yeah, I mean they're always gonna emphasize drama. I mean we had a really solid quarterback room like when you were taking over? Yeah, I mean, they're always gonna emphasize drama. I mean, we had a really solid quarterback room in Philadelphia. I mean, with Carson, Nate and I, it was really solid. Obviously with Carson going down, I mean, the one thing I always do with my teammates is try to put myself in what they're going through,

whether it's an injury or, you know, that's difficult. So, you know, with Carson having such an amazing year and then getting injured like that down the stretch and then we keep going, that's tough, man. He handled that so well. And it was a really great quarterback room and we've all stayed in touch. I was in Nate Sudfeld's wedding and when Carson went to Kansas City, I texted him and was like pumped for him because I got to play for Kansas City

in 16 with Andy and just said how much he's going to love it. And I was like hey go get some burn ends you know make sure you enjoy it while you're there so really you know for the NFL standard it's a great quarterback room. I love what Max did right there because he was like you know the Philly media they always try to get drama can you please talk some shit about Carson Wentz. That wasn't what I said. Yeah it was. He was just like hey. I was just acknowledging that was something that was being talked about at that time. Yeah. I also like how you say the word drama, like with a J.

Drama. There was a lot of drama. I mean, drama. That's what Philly media likes to do. They're doing it right now. You're doing it right now. You're literally doing it. Max, you're literally doing it.

I would have him to give the opportunity to say that the Philly media over-emphasizes things and that's what's going on with Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown right now. They were saying that Nick and Carson were, that Carson was pissed off that he was there and I wanted to give him the chance to say that wasn't true or if it was true. So yeah, you got it from me that we had a great quarterback room and the life emotions definitely go in, but we had a great quarterback room in the sense of like caring for one another and having like, you know Being there during an injury deep being there during a difficult situation and you know

The Philadelphia media is nationally known for you know being you know Putting stuff out there and being aggressive with it I mean, that's what they do and that's their job to do that That's how they put food on the table for you know They're family and that's what they're asked to do It is a you know when you go into the media and the thing with them is I always had a great relationship with the media Because I eventually just took the perspective. I was like listen. These are human beings. I know what they're doing I know they have to ask these questions

They have maybe they want to ask you or their boss is telling them like you have to ask this It's my job to not get offended or be upset about it And if I can't answer a question, I just have to pivot it and give them something to write about like they have to write something so instead of just being upset and like uh, oh why'd you ask that's like You know, I'd eventually be like, you know, I can't answer that so nice try but what I can give you is this But it was more just having that because I mean you don't want the media mad at you. Like in Philly, I mean, if they're mad at you, they're going to go at you. So I always want to treat them as human beings and have that perspective. And in doing so, I felt like

I had a really great relationship with them and I never really had an issue with it. I actually had fun going into the media. I changed my perspective. I was like, when I go into this, I get my heads up, like, hey, here's some stuff that's going on. But I'm like I'm like alright let's see what they're gonna try to ask as opposed to like I hope they don't ask this cuz I'm gonna get pissed off I think let me see if they go this way and if they did I just had fun with it yeah would you listen to Philly media would you find yourself in the car tuned in no I actually don't listen to much meat I

don't really listen to media I listen to country music some Christian raps and Christian music and then my kids running around screaming Yeah, that's about it Yeah There would be like a little bit of morbid curiosity where I would know that it wouldn't be healthy for me But I'd find myself on the drive into the facility and I'd be like, let's just see what WIP say Yeah, I would do like one minute of radio on one minute off. Yeah, all right. Give me a little take You're doing like a little interval. Yeah

Yeah, that's your myth. So so the problem with that. Okay, if you like, all right, give me a little taste. You're going to do like a little interval set. Yeah, right. Yeah. Right. That's your mental. So, so the problem with that, okay, if you're a normal fan, I get it. But if you're a player or a coach and I know the coaches, you know, this coach out there actually do listen and they could say it's their prep work for the media and stuff. But my thing is this, it goes back to what I said at the beginning with like coach Reed and stuff. Like you have to have a clear cut direction of where you want to go without the outside sources coming in. So the second you bring in someone talking potentially bad or ill or dramatic about your team,

no matter what you do, it's going to be a part of your mind. You're not tough enough to say, I'm not going to let this affect me. It might affect you 1%, but that 1% you're going to need to be the best that you can be in the NFL so that's why I think you know anytime you do that as a you know coach or a player you're creating clutter in your brain that you

don't want in there yeah it's better just ignore completely if you hear him say like one thing nice about you if you have a good game and you tune in real quick and they're like oh Nick Poles he's the best this guy's the best you don't want that either and then you don't want that either because when you have a bad game they say something bad about you, then that's gonna absolutely crush you because you already put, you gave them power in the first place

to like have your emotions affected by them. So you don't want to swing the other way. What about the off season after the Super Bowl? Was there, did you think that like, hey, I might just stick around in Philly for a little bit? You know what I knew that I was signed for two years. So I was signed to go there, you know, the backup Carson for two years.

So I was under contract and I love Philadelphia. I wish, you know, it's one of those places you wish you could play your whole career. And that's why I retired there. But we restructured my deal. I wasn't gonna be like, hey, I wanna be, I wanna be released. So we restructured it and added some bonus protection

and all that if I played again. But after I won the Super Bowl, that never crossed my mind. You're so busy too. We wrote a book, you're doing different tours and it just happens. Our daughter, Lily, was seven, eight months old when we won it.

You're going on shows. So then all of a sudden the off season hits and it was really nice going back to Philadelphia And you know I took all the reps in the offseason as Carson healed But you know once he came back I was running scout team and it was good for my heart though you know you go from Winning the Super Bowl and being Super Bowl MVP and then all of a sudden you're running scout team and it's just part of it But it was a lot of you know I love that I love the guys the locker room and I really love going to work there But I knew after that season when Carson in 18 when we beat the Bears in the playoffs

Yeah, um That game broke Matt Nagy's brain forever. I know yeah I know I remember running that same play and practice as a bear and I completed it in there And I and they were just like oh we can't have you run that play My day and there's some ill will towards here. But yeah, I think I was excited to go back, and we restructured it. And I'm glad I had 18.

I'm glad I didn't have to go reset somewhere else after winning the Super Bowl. Being there, we love it. Like I said, that's why I retired there, is how much I love the Eagles. Yeah, was that a humbling moment? Like, you're Super Bowl MVP MVP and then boom, scout team. You know, it's definitely humbling,

but you know, God had worked so much in my heart through the years. And you know, when I almost stepped away from the game after my year in St. Louis, that I realized when I came back to the game, I was like, you know, whatever I do, I want to glorify God throughout that. So I just looked at that as another, you know,

opportunity to do so. And you know And he got it done such a work that he took the, maybe the football being an idol or my identity and was like, you know what, your representation of me, you're not perfect. I'm a human, I'm sinful, I'm falling short, but I got to be an example in that situation. So you definitely have to fight the demons of like, man, when I'd walk into the facility, the first pictures like me catching the Philly special on the Super Bowl like man, like when I'd walk into the facility, like the first pictures like me catching the Philly special on the Super Bowl 52 logo.

But then I reminded like, I get to be an example in the locker room with the young guys, the guys coming in, the guys that are here. You know, even I remember when we were going to London for the London game, you know, all the starters were in the first class because they're playing and then I'm in the back

of the plane, you know, with a lot of the, you know, scout team and guys who are, you know, back up, because I was back up and you know, we even had some starters come back there with me. It's like, well, Nick's in the back of the plane, you know, I'm lot of the, you know, scout team and guys who are, you know, back up because I was back up and you know, we even had some starters come back there with me is like, well, Nick's in the back of the plane, you know, I'm going to be back there too. So it was one of those things where it was really cool. And I just didn't want to let that ego, uh, you know, take over my heart. Cause if it does, it can be to come toxic to the team. Yeah. Max was just shaking his head. Like don't fucking let Nick force the back of the plane. He was upset about that. So when you look back, because it's, it's really interesting. Your career is fascinating because

you had the highs, the lows, like backup bunch of different teams. Do you look back and you're just like, well, at least, you know, there was that, that year I proved that like what my peak was. And like that was, I was able to find, I was able to show everyone, this is the guy that was inside me the whole time and yeah there was some time you know the Jaguars didn't go so well and you know there's there's times where you bounce around you even said you thought about retiring but do you do you look back in the first thing you think of is like yeah see that I was able to prove to everyone I'm a Super Bowl MVP you know I look back on my career just because it

was such a wild journey you know from the beginning to the end and I look back with gratitude and the one thing is funny because like you know growing up and growing in my faith and through different situation in life I always like prayed for wisdom so like I feel like you want to be downloaded with was my just download it like we download an update on our iPhone or Android whatever you are. Yeah. No, we're I thought. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But crazy. The green bubble socks. Are you Android? I go back and forth on my phone right now, but I go back and forth. I go. I like technology. Yeah. Hey, I like testing. I always try to, you know, test different things out. Okay. Um, but when I, when I look back at it, I gained a lot of wisdom through

the ups and downs and you know, even the you know when we got to the high I Had the hard to realize that you know, this is really special embrace it enjoy it It's about the journey and the people alongside it. It's not about the trophy It's about you know You remember the moments the tough moments because it was so hard to get there And then why was I able to endure those moments with my teammates? well

it was because of the bad moments before that I thought were bad that taught me something inside when every time we'd step on The field we get killed maybe when I was in st. Louis when I was struggling when I got benched You know where I almost left the game and came back to Kansas City all those different moments come to fruition And I realized how much wisdom I gained to where now I am retired and you know raising three children and raising kids is not Easy because you're being intentional and all the different things go on, but it's also the most special thing in life. But I say that as it's also very hard. So, you know, even coaching you sports, there's a lot of wisdom and I'm grateful for that. So when I look back, I know what I was able to do. I showed moments of that, but

I also think it was a great, um, example of how of how important a team is. Yeah. It wasn't me. It was my teammates and our coaches and everything together. So whenever I had success, everyone always says, why did you have so much success in Philadelphia? Well, they have a great owner. Howie's done a great job as GM, and they've done great with coaches in the locker room.

They have a system that they hold to. And then also, I think the fan base. The fan base really makes makes, you know, it's like we said, like they're going to hold you accountable just as much, if not more than any fan base. So like you better lock in cause you can't go out there complacent on Sunday or Monday or Thursday, whenever you're playing, like you have to bring it every single day because those fans are going to let you hear it. So you, you remember that when you step on it,

and there's not that way all the time. Sometimes the stadiums not even full. So there's not that accountability. So when you almost walked away from the game that was in St. Louis, after St. Louis, I just it was such a turmoil years the year the last year there in St. Louis going to LA and there's a lot different moving parts that happened and I just been traded

from Philadelphia. And it was just I just did not have fun playing the game, lost heart for the game, and really needed to take a deep breath. And I just feel like playing football, in the NFL it's a business, but at the same time, you gotta play the game with a childlike heart and a love for the game. That's gotta be a part of it.

So I had lost that part of it, and I didn't know if I was gonna get it back. And then went through this journey you know it was all based on a journey God had presented before me. You know my wife was such a huge piece of that. I read that she wrote you a letter. She wrote me a letter that I keep in a Bible at my house and you know I have several different study Bibles and everything and occasionally whenever I'm using that study Bible it'll be there and I'll reread it. And it was it was her being an amazing wife and best friend and just

one challenging me but two realizing like she was there no matter what I decided but she also felt like I was going through something and I needed to face it head on and let not let that darkness overtake me. So was it a handwritten letter? It was she typed it up. I think she probably hand wrote it and then typed it up. Yeah but it's it's and then she just handed you and she's a great writer She's like here are my words and then you sat down you read a letter. That's that's very old-school But it sounds like it was powerful. Yeah, it was a long letter. Yeah, it's like four pages So it was a long letter I mean you have to think back now every now and then being like what if I had retired you I know money's not everything

But you ended up making like 60 more million dollars and won a Super Bowl MVP. That's an all-time what if yeah I mean that that's crazy. Yeah, I mean in the moment that I decided to go back and play I'll never forget it You know we were in California and I was you know, I just got back from a camping trip with Tori's brother Ryan We went camping and fly-fishing and you know, it was actually the first time I had peace Since I was probably a kid because football did not consume me. I had just been released from the Rams, so I was free. No team controlled me.

I got to go on a camping trip. Andy Reed and I were texting, because I was a free agent, and he wanted me to go to KC, and I just told him, like, hey, I think I'm done. I'm just going to go on this trip and just enjoy being out in the wilderness and fly fish. I never got a chance to do that,

because I was always training. And then I got back and I had to deal with, six teams had called and all these different things and Tori and I are talking about everything and it's just really hard for me to take because I'm not ready to make a decision and I just didn't feel like I could do it. But then I remember just saying to pray,

prayer to God, like God, like I really don't know what to do. I'm struggling and there's the calming voice or something inside me, whatever it was, discernment from the Holy Spirit, that said, just move. Like, stop being paralyzed. You're living in fear, that doesn't come from me. Either retire and I'll be with you and I love you and I'll be with you or go back and play.

And then the ultimate deciding factor is what are you most afraid of? What is, and I was most afraid of going back to play. So that's why I made the decision. I was like, that was the thing I did not want to do, but I was most afraid of. And I knew that he'd be walking alongside me. So called Andy Reed.

I left, my wife thought I was calling my agent to just put in my retirement papers. Wow. And she had no idea. Cause this, the conversation had gone where I was probably going to retire. Yeah. Cause we're like in tears.

It was that close. It was tough. And she was there and she's our rock of our family. I walk outside, I call Andy Reed and I'm like, Hey, if you'll have me, the training camps already a week or two in, I was like, I'll come. I was like, and I told him a hundred percent what was going on in my heart. So he knew I'm like, Hey, but if the love of the game can come back, I know it's playing for you in Kansas city. And if you'll still have me, I'd be

honored to come here and give it a shot. Cause training camp, you have so many guys. So like if I don't cut it and I lose heart, they're just gonna cut me any yeah, right So call my agent told him and then I had thrown a ball for like three four months or something So that night, you know, I called Tori's brothers Evan and Ryan who like I said both great athletes I'm like, hey, we gotta go find a field and throw I gotta see if I still throw this thing So went through and then like a day later. I'm on a flight KC You know get to training camp. They don't have like pads or shoes or helmet

that fit a quarterback, cause they didn't count on that. So like I'm wearing number one, I'm wearing like lineman shoes, receiver shoulder pads, and like a random helmet. And I felt so dumb, like in one point. I just felt like an imposter. Right, right.

But it was the fourth day of training camp where I woke up and I was doing my Bible study and watching film and Honestly like full transparency like tears came to my eyes because I realized is the first time in a long time I was pumped to go to practice. I hadn't felt that in a long time So wow that year in 2016 Being with the Kansas City Chiefs was my favorite year of football because of everything it led to and that's why when you know I cook with chef Donnie and you know I do all these different things like big red is always a big part of my journey,

and I'm super grateful for him having me, and the leader he is as a head coach. Yeah, and it sounds like Andy Reid, not save your career, but having that relationship with him and having someone you can call and be like, hey, here's, because if you call, you said six teams called you. If you call one of those other teams, and you're like, hey, I don't know if I really want to Do it. They'd be like, all right fine. Fuck you. Don't come on. No doubt, you know, but like any read being like, you know

I want to give you this opportunity. That's awesome Yeah, and he drafted me so he knew me from my rookie year in plane and going through the draft process and we stayed in touch after and you know, even when I was with chip and having success, I'd always get a text from Andy and And even when I was with Chip and having success, I'd always get a text from Andy. And that meant a lot to me. And that was really, really special. And that's why he means so much. And I had so much fun. Alex Smith, Tyler Bray, our QB room, Coach Nagy was our offensive coordinator.

It showed me so much structure. Alex's preparation was amazing. So I got to learn a lot from him and his preparation and just the Man he is and we had a really great quarterback room that the environment was healthy We had a lot of success, you know I played in two games that year and you know had success and sort of got my mojo back Hey, so Andy Reid gets credit for the Eagles Super. Yeah, and also Alex Smith might be the best starting quarterback of all time to be a backup quarterback for yeah He's yeah, he's you know

Yeah, he done, you know durable done You know just such an amazing player such an amazing leader and I would tell you this like Alex in the facility the way he locks in at the facility is Truly amazing because then we'd have like quarterback date nights and I'm like so used to like like with the wives Did you have quarterback date nights in Philly with Carson Wentz. Oh, we did a couple we did a couple they were Carson was not used hold on. Nate wasn't married. He just got married a year ago They're about to have their first kid They might have had their first kid like right now and then Carson was not married at the time

Okay, so there's not sure it's a date night. Yeah, we so I did date now with my wife Okay, so you were not as close as you have a context is everything not married. So like you had a girlfriend Oh, yeah, he had a new girlfriend now his wife. Okay, and they have you know, sounds like you're gonna do Yeah, sounds like things weren't so rosy Did you ever learn all the lyrics to Dreams and Nightmares? I did not, but to this day when that song comes on, so I listen to the beat and everything.

When that song comes on, there's something inside me that just juices me up because of running out of the tunnel and what it meant to our team and Meek Mill and everything it's going through. That song forever will get me going. Yeah. Yeah. That was, I mean, yeah, that was a time and place. Max is smiling ear to ear. Um, all right. I got one last question for you. It's a row back question. R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row

back.com promo code take. So my last question was do you want to give. We've kind of been you know singing your praise Nick full Super MVP everything. Do you want to give us any credit for not asking a question about everyone saying you have a big deck. Well I mean in a way you just sort of did that. No no no he did. No no no no. That was not give us credit. So I mean not as a question. mean, we asked the question. So we're, we're, we're doing this and you know, like when I go on the show, I'm like, all right, you know, is it weird that the first thing I thought of was like, that's going to be the question? Didn't ask the question. Didn't ask the question.

By the tape back, I asked if we, the question is, do we get credit for not bringing up the fact that other people say that you have a big dick? So it's really the question is, do we get credit? Y'all, y'all, y'all do get credit. Okay. There we go. But you know, it's a, you know, if yeah, I mean y'all get credit for not asking. Now we get, we get the awkward like miss of it all. So you get what you need. We get credit. Speaking of Robeck, they've got very roomy pants. Yes. And joggers and shorts for all types of bodies. What are you going to say, Max? I was going to ask if there's ever anyone in Philly

Who's asked you to that who has asked you to sign their dick Alright so now you can take it away even worse That was a little worse then like when you asked the question then you're like thinking about like what he just asked Oh, yeah Crazy I could see it. Yeah. I feel like good question. Crazy. I could see it. I mean, like, great, gratefully. No. But there's a lot of tattoos of the Superbowl 52 or me. Um, funny story, funny story about tattoo. So I was in San Francisco doing a speaking thing and you know, I'd been in Philadelphia for a few days,

San Fran before I went back to SoCal and I really need to go like get a shower because I travel across country in the morning so on my guard there's a YMCA so I go to the YMCA my guard hopefully you know these gyms now with day passes I don't know I just work out my garage so I go in there walk in I'm in San Francisco and I'm like hey do you have a and the guy just pause he's staring at me and my marketing agent buddy Austin's with me and I'm like, hey, do you have a, and the guy just paused and he's staring at me. And my marketing agent, Buddy Austin's with me and I'm like, and he just lifts up his shirt. And it's just a full Super Bowl 52 tattoo.

And this is San Francisco. So I was like, oh wow. And you know, I was like, so I can get a day pass. They're like, yeah, we get free day passes anyway. But I'm like, well, you're gonna give me a free day pass. So I need a shower. But yeah, that's just sort of the, you know, their family fans are everywhere.

They love the team They love the city and it's amazing family. Yeah, that's was that you asking him if he would sign your penis. No, yeah No, no, no, no, no, that's not what I was saying I sounded like that's not what I was saying I just I really wanted to ask like what was the craziest Philly thing that you saw and then you talked about that and then It made me think damn. I wonder if that has ever happened Listen in terms of rumors about you is the best one you can have the best possible Yeah, and I don't even think it's a rumor, but in terms of people talking about something. Yeah, I mean I mean it could be worse

Yeah, very well. Yeah, listen. I have a small dick. So like that sucks. I've never had that I've never had like former teammates go on podcasts and be like, Hey, yeah, just like to confirm the size of PFT dick for you. That's really the dream scenario. Wait, so what is the last last question? What is the craziest Philly fan story or weird earth or request that you've gotten? That was basically what I meant to ask. Yeah, you just did a terrible job. Like, dude, did anyone ask you inside your dick? Yeah. I mean, you know, you'll run in occasionally like maybe an image of, you know, uh, a dick or something, um, you know, stuff like that. But you know, usually

it's, it's not too crazy. Um, they, I think they know me too. So they know a lot of it's just like a Philly special thing or something like that. So there was always like us, they were, you know, they did not ask the question. I asked the question. He brought in a worst, but I didn't even ask him. My thing is this, can we get, but max back there is thinking like, what, what can I ask? Like my question is like, how do you get to that? Because he was, he was thinking, he was thinking in his head, he was like, I think Nick Foles has had a good enough time on this interview, he'll sign my dick later.

That's not what I was saying. That's absolutely what was happening. That's not what I was saying. 100%. Not what I was saying. Because he's done this before with guests. He's had guests sign his dick. So he was like.

Incorrect. Incorrect. Then he goes and gets it tattooed. Yeah. No. His dick is like a wall of graffiti right now. This is incorrect. This is incorrect. Yeah, correct

I this is not how I wanted this podcast to end You became a huge part of this podcast Now on social media when we pump out y'all pump out all the this is like what you're pumping out Yeah, he's gonna be very upset about that world just popped into my head All right, so last last question you have a merch brand now. So you're wearing the hats. Yes. Dad season. Dad season. I like it. Dad's need more representation. So, so yeah, story, story about it. So like Pat O'Donnell was punting for the 49ers, a teammate in Chicago. Yeah. One of my best friends. We, you know, we, we co-founded the

brand dad season and you know, at the beginning of any brand, like, you know, the idea was 2023 really got going in 2024. Throughout the course of this year is like, how are we gonna do this? You're figuring out what is this? Is it a podcast? Is this? And we're like, you know what? Let's do great hats. Let's do merch.

So right now in 2025, we have a great plan to scale more merch, more hoodies, more shirts. We want performance golf, performance. The hat I'm wearing right now is a hydro performance hat So, you know moisture wicking water repellent these will come out in like January. So we want to create and spec out great hat So we have a line of that and you know, it's dad s ZN calm and then on our social But you know, it's been a lot of great feedback. We're also gonna make things for you know We have a mom brand coming out. We have kids stuff coming out

You know a Philly Philly girl hat because we have a Philly line line that's really cool. Love it. And then we're going to do stuff for people that are not dads. You know, we have, you know, we're going to drop a lot of our performance hats without, you know, just our logo on the side that even if you want to wear it, like you can wear it. And then, you know, you want Philly Philly beanie just because we had the Philly Philly dad line. So we have a lot of great ideas. My brain is always churning with ideas and we have a great team. We're truly small. It's Pat, myself, and our wives are heavily a part of it.

And then we have a small team of people that love the brand, they're dads, and they love what we're doing and they help with, as we grow in content and merchandise planning and scaling. So it's pretty awesome. Nice, being a dad rocks. It's fun. Sometimes it's not fun. Nice. Yeah being a dad rocks. Yeah, it's fun Sometimes it's not fun in Chicago becomes a little more difficult because of the cold weather, huh? Yeah. Well, they thank God

We have this office. I just have my kids just come here and run around. Yeah Yeah, this office is like yeah an adult They love it. So alright. Well Nick. Thank you so much, man It was awesome having you on awesome meeting you max is gonna ask for the dick signing after this. No, no Yeah, we won't do that He actually did a good job too with his a previous no, I got I was proud of max for not asking a weird question Earlier in the interview No, what he's a true Philly fan. Yeah

You can only contain it for so long. I just want to know about other Philly What you know max you know what you've done is now Philly fans are going to ask that all the time It's all because of you No, did it to him, all right, thanks so much Nick. All right. Thank you. I appreciate it You and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and what doesn't suck? Calling Morgan and Morgan so they can help you get what you deserve. Well, they can't help add inches to your vertical leap. They can't help fight to get you full and fair compensation when injured. The fee is free unless they win. For more information, go to for the people.com slash PMT or dial pound law from your cell phone.

Okay. Firefests the week boys. It's time. Henry? Yeah, my FireFest is dunk related. Oh, next week is the day I'll be attempting. I think I will be close ish. Yep. When is PMTV coming out today? Okay, now. So PFT? Yeah. We have some negotiating. I we did some pre negotiation. I said to Hank when we were negotiating that none of this counts because PFT is not here I heard I heard some some things from the walls regarding the pre negotiations that there were some slander There were some slander. Well, I know because slander is when it's not true. Oh, yeah, but just some insults Yeah insults that were thrown around very loosely but uh

yeah, Hank this has been like a six month fire fest for you because you've just there have been so many ups and downs And having this challenge just looming out in the distance has really put you through a mental wringer Yeah, I mean I've been I've enjoyed the training. I've seen progress. I will see if I've seen enough progress I think it will be close I probably didn't go as hard as I should have in the beginning and you know much like a project or whatever in school I procrastinated too long. I was going through the motions. I just wasn't I've been locked in for like two months I just needed to be locked in for like probably an extra two or three

But there is a second part of the dunk bet where it's like we went back and watched the footage when we recorded it You know last year. Yeah, it was go perfect it was go can I okay you want to explain it now you want to explain it I knew this day would come you want to explain it you got it my bad in the when we the discussion was big cats head if you go perfect from three-point contest 25 or 25 then you win as well I said that's never gonna happen you said okay 20 I said that's never gonna happen. You said okay 20 I That's how I said oh All right, you know you explain it you explain it I so max is walking around showing everybody this clip yesterday trying to figure out what this

I watch the bank my initial reaction was put it back for 20. We got a mic off right now You got two two podcasters and just not talking into a mic put it back for 20 we got a mic off right now. We got two two podcasters and just not talking into a mic put it back Put it back. We got a mic off put it back Hank. What did you think that the? Second part. I don't know PFT. Maybe if you let me fucking speak I would explain it But you guys got it you take it away. No firefaces. I'm not good at shooting threes. No, that's it say I guess you didn't You didn't literally let me finish. I did let you finish the part where you said that I was wrong. You made me every time I was speaking. That's not what I said.

Okay. Restart. I misinterpreted what the initial discussion was. I'm not going to be able to shoot 23s in a row. That's it. I have a question. Yeah. What was the initial discussion?

Do we have a clip? The initial discussion was 25 for 25. I said that's never going happen. You said, okay, 20. There was you have to go perfect from three point 2525. I said, that's never gonna happen. You said, okay, 20. I heard that as 20 out of 25. When I rewatched the clip this week, I realized you guys meant 20 for 20. So I attempted to shoot. I had three shots at it. I took 25 attempts at it on Tuesday and I didn't

make it more than five times a row. So that's over. We have to we have to figure out something that I don't want you to be as down as you are. Because I actually still think you might be able to dunk. You're not giving up on the dunk are you? Nope. You so why are you this upset about the three pointer? I'm not. You're not. The text you sent me last night makes me think that you might be close to dunking. I thought big cat lowered the rim which he said he wants to do to fuck with me. I can't. I try. I don't think I'm going to dunk. I think I'm going to be I'm just not I'm I'm I can jump 10 feet four inches. I think I probably need another inch. I don't

think I'm gonna run out of time All right. So let's negotiate. Yeah Let's negotiate because here's what it comes. I don't mind it is what it is. We made the bet. No, no I'm not trying to get out of it. No, no, so what I told him PFT is like we this is for the viewers We want it to be fun for the viewers. So obviously if he can't dunk and he can't do the 20 for 20 we should come up with a Like redemption bet for Hank where it's not us at stake. So we don't have to pay him anything It's just him getting out of paying us getting back to zero. Yeah, okay. So here's the here's the clip

Okay, if you want to play it if you can't dunk, I'll give you three chances To go perfect from Three-point contest and if you get that then you get the money. Okay? No smart, buddy, because now he's gonna like halfway through not training. He's gonna be like me. I'll just three-pointers That works. So three times through you'd have to make 25 three-pointers in a row. Yeah, that'll never happen.

All right, we'll say 20. That is so much more likely to happen than you. So I again, like I didn't, I remember talking about it and I remember 20 in my head for the last few months it was 20 out of 25 watching the clip back I realized it was 20 for 20 which is impossible. I think 20 for 25 is possible. Obviously that's not what we discussed. So the thing we could do and I propose this is that we could do you get a redemption rack or a run through and I get three chances to beat you and if I beat you

or we could do the average of me and pft and then the difference is what you pay us was the other thing I proposed say that again you and pft both do one time through. We get, no, no, you go one time through, that's your score. So let's say you get 20, okay? PFT and I go three times through each and we average our best scores. And then the difference is like, you know, like so, say our average is 14, you get 20,

we would then take off whatever it is. So what do you owe us, eight grand? Eight grand. You'd owe us two grand. So it'd be like a thousand a point or something. What do you think about that, PFT? What were the terms that you guys were throwing around yesterday?

That was kind of it. It was like that. It was us going. Is Hank gonna risk anything more? It was gonna be. Not necessarily money. It was gonna be PFT versus Hank straight up one time going through for a million dollars. He would have to pay us a million dollars if you beat him.

Uh huh. And we wouldn't have to pay anything if you- if- Erdos, if he beat you, we wouldn't have to pay anything. That was where the insult came in. Yeah. He was willing to do a million dollars and get a cat and shave his face. I kinda wanna take that bet. A million? willing to do a million dollars and get a cat and shave his face. I kind of want to take that back.

A million. I mean, dude, a million. It's not the million is cool, but getting a cat. Yeah. And shaving. I mean, I'm open to the either of those. Okay. Oh, we could do this. All right. So how about we do this? Because you, oh, you would owe us, you'd owe owe us four grand for grand, right? Correct. I would be willing to go heads up with you one round versus one round. If you beat me, I'll wipe mine clean. Okay.

And then PFT go heads up with you. If PFT beats you, you got to get a cat and shave and shave. But here's what I'll do. Wipe it clean. I'll also wipe it clean. No matter what you I'm willing to trade $4,000 cash. Yeah. Yeah. So it's white. So you'd be wiped clean on PFTs no matter what. And then if he beats you, you got to get a cat and shave your face. Why wouldn't you take this? You just said a million dollars.

Why would you take this and listen? I'm I do not shoot three pointers. I mean it's just in that we're just going heads up one one time one time I feel like I would probably first I'd probably make four three if you go remember I have a broken broken if pft goes first. I'll do it. I'll go first against you. Okay, okay? Yeah, I don't care when I go Yeah, all right, so why don't you want me to go second? It's a lot of pressure for me. Oh I think he's got to go second. I think

I think there's way more pressure on you if you go second Yeah, that's true way To go second I want Hank to go second. I accept. I want Hank to go second. I got PFT. Accept. I don't, I don't, I already, you already accepted. No I didn't. I literally did not. Uh, you just said if PFT goes first, I'll do it. And I said, okay, I accept. I think this is fair. So you're going to go, so you're going to try to dunk. If you don't. So you're going to try to dunk. If you don't dunk, you're going to try to get 23 in a row. You have three shots at that. If that doesn't happen, we owe you or we owe you

nothing. So we've won that side of the bet. And then we have the, the elimination is essentially me and you heads up one time, one time. If I beat you, you owe me the, the four grand. If I, if you beat me, we're clear. And then one time, one time. If I beat you, you owe me the four grand. If I if you beat me, we're clear. And then one time one time, you're already clear with PFT. But if he beats you, you have to get a cat and shave your face. It's the shaving the face isn't it? Now it's the cat. Oh, it is. Oh, I thought it was shaving cat might take care of the spiders. Yeah, true.

Spiders have gone away for winter. The cat, the cat, listen, the cat is fine. I love Hank's ongoing war against spiders. I think this is a fair deal. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to own a cat, but I also know I'm going to be PFT, so whatever. You could also adopt an elderly cat. They need homes too. True.

From paws. So whatever you could also adopt an elderly cat they need homes to true from paws That'd be so sad if you just adopted a cat for it to die like six months later You would definitely love that cat. All right Good. All right. We're good. Yeah, okay So so already you've you've the most you're gonna have to pay is four grand Correct. Yeah, this is a win. This is a massive win for you Hank and you've been shooting a lot more than me So I think you're gonna have to pay is four grand correct yeah this is a win this is a massive win for you Hank and you've been shooting a lot more than me so I think you're gonna beat me although you've never beat me in a three-point cut yeah I'm I'll walk in this is gonna be great imagine a pft beat so pft you gotta

fucking get I'm gonna tie I'm texting Titus. You gotta get tight. You gotta get your shit on All right pressure pressure makes diamonds Or I can just dunk or you can just look if you don't you just what would you get 18 grand or so 20 20? damn What up what us I mean now I'm rooting for you to dunk Yeah, me too Would you still do heads up again? No, if he just for the cat Come on people need the cat Hank if you can dunk I think you should go heads up against me and I'll double how much I owe you

So you're shooting for a cat no matter what? Yeah, I love that. I love that. All right. And what day are we doing this? Friday. Friday. Okay, I'm texting Mark. Yeah.

There also might be someone who could help you. Like a week from today. Yeah. There's also someone who might be here who could help you shoot too. PFT. Yes. A coach of some kind. But I gotta put the hours. That won't add any pressure to you. No, I

mean I'm gonna fall apart. This is gonna be terrible. I'm already all part. But you know who wins the WL and that's all that matters. That's all that matters. They're winning. This is going to be a big win for them. And're doing the racks not the guns. Yes. Okay racks racks Also, this will be the finale of the PMT. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes So so everybody's been asking about that This will air Christmas. This will air Christmas week. Yeah at the end of the last episode of the PMT documentary. Yes. Yes Okay, PFT year FireFest. That was good, that was a good talk.

I'm sorry for interrupting you at the start. It's okay. I apologize. My FireFest kind of addressed a couple of them already. One was that Hank brought back winter by provoking it. Dude, it was, it's fucking like, whatever. It was not that bad. It was negative five wind chill this morning, it's okay.

My other FireFest. It's gonna. Uh, my other fire fest. It's It's gonna get it's gonna get to be 40 degrees again tomorrow or Friday. Okay, okay My other fire fest is that I have entered the metaverse. Oh, I think I like it I think I enjoy it. So I got the Apple vision Pro like seven months ago What a waste of fucking money that was. Yeah, that was that's probably the biggest waste of money I've ever had in my entire life is buying that. But a couple of days ago went out, picked up the the meta quest three. That thing rocks. So you can watch NBA games and feel like you're actually courtside at it.

It's not an ad. I just enjoy being in the metaverse. Shit, I might have to buy it. You feel like a courtside. It's great for flight simulators. I know you love those big cat. Yeah. So I'm just like rocking my meta helmet at home. I was watching college football on Saturday. I had three games on at once on like big screen TVs that were just floating in my room.

It is it's awesome. I think I'm just a full time metaverse guy. I guess I gotta get it I'm going you can troll in the metaverse too. Oh, you can like go up to other people and start fucking with them Oh, yeah, it's fun. Okay. It's fun. I'm gonna be a meta quest guy. I'm in the metaverse right now That sounds it was a hard to set up. I know it's very easy. So you get any headaches. No headaches. No headaches I remember cuz we had this in the New York office and I played like two games of something and my brain Could I also fucked up brain? Yes, that's me thing. That's me thing. Yeah

Yes, stop talking. I know that like if you don't adjust it if you don't adjust the like tightness of it or the lens distance Or whatever it fucks with you. But if you haven't set up perfectly, it's man I'm telling you the Apple vision Pro was like five grand This thing was 500 this kicks the shit out of the Apple vision Pro. Mm-hmm Apple vision Pro sucks like five grand. This thing was 500. This kicks the shit out of the Apple vision Pro. Apple vision Pro sucks ass. But this rocks. I might have to get it. All right, my fire fest I get to one is I do think I have a broken pinky I've had it for two weeks. I don't know what to do about it. I don't think you can do

anything for a broken pinkie. You cut it off. It just hurts really bad. It hurt really bad when I heard it and then it got a little better and now it hurts again So yeah, I don't think you can they don't do anything for a broken pinky, right? No, you can like tape it I think yeah, I'm not doing anything. So I think I'm just like a hurt hand guy for the rest of my life Yeah And then the other one was that? My my son just threw up all over my car on Saturday and that was fun So oh and we were in a parking lot after lunch and I

said to him, I was like, you look like you're going to throw up. Do you need to throw up? And he's like, no. And then we got in the car everywhere spins on the big cat. At least now you have a sick car. Yeah, real sick car, real sick car. Oh, it was everywhere. And then I got blamed for it because he was like, you shouldn't have made me eat those single noodle that he ate for lunch. That was your fault. He was like, I told you I didn't want that single noodle. It would make me sick. Damn. You're right. You got me. All right.

Thank you. Okay. You're fine. You're w we just, we, what just happened here is that you already are down. You, you already don't have to pay for grant. You're, I would pay for a grant to not have a cat and you're like the money is to pft no i know dude i suck pressure pft you shouldn't practice no no stop stop i mean it's not going to make a difference i think i would honestly shoot i'm probably like seven percent from three is that fair and you're also going to be on you're already going to done it like you're going to do it like what three times. So you're going to be warmed up.

And you're in great shape. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm nervous, but I'm excited. You shouldn't be nervous. I think you're good. I think you're gonna walk away from this and probably not owe anything Hopefully yeah or be up 20 or be up 20. Yeah, you could tell her Do you know how sick would it be if you were to dunk and you'd had that video for forever? Oh the way I'm gonna Wait, how many times is he gonna get to dunk unlimited? Yeah, cuz you'll stop being able to jump as high after yeah, you'll quit memes are you still staring at that light? I Show him pug off the light. I Can't stress enough how long this light has been there forever and you can also forever just stop looking at it

All right now I have to look at it. All right. We ready for numbers 11 3 nice What the fuck man 2 that's a big thing for me 94 poke 35 I'll go 10 21 thanks to the nationals. Oh yeah, the Nationals tweeted at memes after they won the ladder saying, memes have you ever gotten this?

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