Pardon My Take - Orlando Magic’s Mo & Franz Wagner, Jake Browning Elite? Lowman Trophy Finalists & Hank/Max 24 Hour Stream

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

Jake Browning wins MNF and probably millions of dollars. Trevor Lawrence injured and the state of the Jets have somehow gotten worse(00:00:00-00:18:00). Lowman Trophy Finalists are revealed(00:23:50-0...0:26:13). Hank and Max prep for their 24 hour Live Stream starting at 9 pm central tonight(00:26:13-00:39:28). Hot Seat/Cool Throne(00:39:28-00:52:35). Orlando Magic’s Mo and Franz Wagner join us in studio to talk about playing in the NBA, growing up in Germany, Michigan, their welcome to the league moment and tons more(00:52:35-01:46:56). We wrap up the show with FAQ’s (01:33:22-01:46:56)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have two very special guests, the Wagner Brothers from the Magic in Studio, Monefrons, great interview with them. Good to get some NBA players on the show. We are going to talk Monday night football.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Jake Browning is elite. We are going to reveal the low man trophy finalists, which is coming up because I know they did the the highs in this week. So it's time for our award. Who's favorite to win the Heisman? Jayden Daniels is right now, which Hank did say mission accomplished. So we just got to be careful with that. There's no.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Okay. All right. Listen, we're not even in the show yet. We're talking about the game, the game. The game. You're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:00:53 We're, we're listening. We're not even, we're not even in the show yet. I can't text. No, no, we're not even in the show yet. What game are you talking about? This is, and you were live texting about Oregon washing. Yes. That wasn't mission accomplished because I needed Oregon.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Whatever. All right. Neither accomplished because I needed Oregon. Whatever. Neither here nor there. We needed them to win the game. Mission accomplished. Neither here nor there. If you can sense Hank's tone, he's ready to fight. Because we also are gonna talk about the 24 hour stream
Starting point is 00:01:17 that will start today at 9 p.m. And Hank has come. He's come with his brass knuckles. Central time. He's come ready his brass knuckles. Central time. He's come ready to fight. Ready to smile. Ready to smile. Ready to smile.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yes. So we're going to get into all of that. Hank stormed into the studio today. Yes. Again, we're not even in the show yet. Hank. It's been a while. We're not even in the show yet.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Wait, wait, wait. Okay, the gaslight is started. So it's going to be a great show and hot sea cool drone and FAQs. Before we do all that Chevy there's a new family with unstoppable grit and they're the official partners of the pardon my take family And that is the Chevy Silverado ZR2 family the first ever heavy duty ZR2 joins the franchise to make Chevy ZR2 the only truck brand with a full lineup of trucks ready for wherever your off-road adventures Take you with exclusive
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Starting point is 00:03:33 He is a leech. I got a question. Yes, he is. Jake Browning him. He might be. We watched Monday night football. Everyone expected the Bengals. There were 10 point underdogs to just roll over. And then Jake Browning said, no, no, no, not so fast.
Starting point is 00:03:47 32 for 37, 354 yards. And then Bengals win and a Trevor Lawrence injury. And it looks like the entire AFC picture is now up for grabs. Yeah, was it four out of seven quarterbacks that are currently in the AFC playoffs? They're on their backup quarterbacks? I think, yeah, and I think in the league,
Starting point is 00:04:06 I think it's 14 teams are now playing backup quarterbacks. And how keeps climbing up those standings. This, this, this league, this, this year, if you're wondering like, hey, why is everything kind of fucked up? Well, yeah, we got a lot of backup quarterbacks going right now. Yeah, the, I think right now it's the, it's the Jags. We don't know how long the Steelers, We don't know how long the Steelers, we don't know how long the Browns for the rest of the season,
Starting point is 00:04:30 the Colts for the rest of the season. I would count Joe Flacco as a starter though. He's a backhoe. He's got starter pedigree. And yeah, it's a blood bath out there. Actually, if you look at the standings right now in the AFC, you could make the argument that eight, nine, and 10 could beat five, six, and seven, eight,
Starting point is 00:04:47 nine, ten, and 11, and 11. Yeah. The Texans, the Broncos, the Bengals, and the Bills. It's just crazy because this is how the NFL season goes where you go into the season. You say the AFC is a gauntlet. The AFC is going to be incredible to watch all these great quarterbacks. Now we're sitting here in the first week of December and everyone's injured and the Chiefs have caught their fourth loss.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And now it all switches to is the NFC, the real Continent. It is NFC, the really the actual conference this year because, yeah, I mean, if you had to do a power rankings of teams, the NFC would have what, three of the top five teams right now. Yeah, I think they would. Yeah, 49ers, I think number one. Yeah. 49ers won. Then you could maybe go Ravens or Eagles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And then, you know, how boys are somewhere in there? And then I don't know, maybe the chiefs, I mean, the Jagdars. Dolphins. Dolphins, I'm very high on the diamonds. Lions, yeah. Lions, defense. Lions, sus. I want to just say real quick. Lions fans, listen,
Starting point is 00:05:46 we have we have been very supportive of lions. It is not lions hate to say can't trust the defense. Yeah, that's a statement of fact. I still think the lions will possibly wins multiple playoff games, but saying the defense is not good is a true statement of fact. There is no bias. There's no hate. It's just a fact the Lions don't have a defense that will the Lions have a defense will make every game a nail-biter. I think the Lions can outscore almost anybody though. Yeah, so think which is why I love these Lions. I feel like Dan Campbell he can put his foot on the gas and just be like he can will his way into having a tough defense defense.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You know what he'll do? He'll just challenge his defense. Yeah. You know what I did this week of practice? I challenged my defense to step up. Yeah. And then they'll step up. But yeah, the Jaguars, uh, it looks like it might have been a lucky break with Trevor Lawrence. Can we get him a cart? Yeah. I don't know what Jacksonville's doing. He was walking all the way to the locker room. That's the thing is like Jacksonville, I think amongst any city in the USA, Jacksonville, Florida probably has the most golf carts. Yeah. And they didn't use a single one on Trevor. He said he wanted to walk to the training room. Why? I don't know. I guess he wanted to show you his tough. It was so sad when they showed him back in the tunnel
Starting point is 00:06:57 and it was like five minutes later. It's like, here he is. He's still going. Yeah, he walked home last night after the game. But apparently what happened was this is according to uncle chaps He heard himself and then he told the guys on the team like I don't want a cart. I want to walk I want to look tough at that point. You need to be like no, we're gonna get you a cart You've had give me your keys. You've had yeah, we got a driver for you. You'll be fine Shadow tray Henderson giving them a quick prayer right there. I blame the moment. That was actually very classy and giving them a quick prayer right there. I blame the moment. That was actually very classy.
Starting point is 00:07:24 The biggest winner of last night was that poor equipment manager, water boy on the Jaguars, who cost them a timeout. That drive was cooking. He runs onto the field. I don't know why he ran onto the field. They charged the Jaguars the timeout.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I believe it was the first play after that timeout Trevor Lawrence gets hurt. You can't tell me that Trevor Lawrence gets hurt if that guy wasn't on the field. Butterfly effect. But apparently, apparently it's a high ankle sprain. And I've got to take that, I don't believe, but you're gonna get the surgeries,
Starting point is 00:07:52 you're gonna get the Alabama ankle? No tight rope. Okay. I'm here in no tight rope. I just want to get to, I just want it enough. I want to get to this take before Colin Coward or Danny Cannell does.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Okay. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence needs to know in that moment, he can't act like that's a season in Dignity. Yeah. I would have walked off. You know what? I would have stayed in the game. The way he got up and then he went back down. He did it. It was weird because there's a high ankle spring, but he also got like folded in half his knee right after the high ankle spring. Yeah. And now the Jaguars have to go play at the Browns and a good defense. and they have the Ravens after that.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Pete Prisco might be sweating a little bit with his Jaguars thoughts, although they finished the season with the Panthers and the Titans. So I think the Jaguars still go to the playoffs, but that sucks. It felt like it was the first time I think Jacksonville had a Monday night game and like over a decade. Yeah. It was also the first time the Bengals won a Monday night game on the road in like 20 years. Um, Prisco's kind of walked back that take though. He says that even with Trevor, the defense doesn't look good enough. Oh no. Yeah, they take Jake Browning was incredible. You was good. And I know that they have weapons, but Jake Browning, like good for Jake Browning, he probably made
Starting point is 00:09:01 I don't know, 10 plus million dollars being able to be a backup now for a very long time. Yeah, it was a big night for him. And I think we missed Judge Jake Browning on the ground beef and honey comment that he made, that he only eats ground beef and honey as his diet. Yeah, that's actually kind of cool. But it's also not even like it's good, that was my point. Yeah, it tastes good, it's not like a big sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:09:23 But it's kind of, I don't know, it's very primal. So if you see me in a fight with the Jaguar, poor honey on me. Yeah. The the stat is from Stadhold. That was the first Bengals Monday Night road win since 1990. It was very weird seeing the Jacksonville pool at night. Yeah, I can't remember the last time I was here.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It was very uncomfortable with them staying on it. Yeah, I like it. I just like get it off. I enjoyed it. Hit the last game. Dayton was very uncomfortable with them staying on it. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I enjoyed it. Hit the pool off. There was also the matter of a near tie at the end of the game. Yeah. And it feels like the bangles tie more than any team in recent history.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah. They just give off tie vibes. Oh, it's a down to the Gnab game. Yeah. And I think most of the time it's tie ever. I think they tied one in England too. They've had some pretty noteworthy ties recently. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:04 This would have been another one. Did you know, because I looked looked it up the Jaguars have never tied a game. Oh, they're the only team in the NFL that have no ties That's pretty cool. You know who leads the league in ties. It's got to be an old franchise Yes, because they just did ties and they were like that's the game giants. They didn't have overtime for a long time until 1972 The bears, okay, you know how many ties the bears have 100 they have 42 ties They didn't have overtime for a long time until 1972. The Bears. You know how many ties the Bears have? 100. They have 42 ties. Yeah, I mean, there's a tie games back in the day.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Here's the craziest part. They don't have a single tie since 1972. Yeah, so it's all pre-tie ties. Yeah, so the Bears, you could say like, the Bears don't have a tie either. Yeah, the ties, yeah, it is pretty crazy that like, you know, pre-1960s, they were just tie games and be like like thinking even about like Michigan Ohio State playing. Yeah, they were just tie. That's the end. And like that was it
Starting point is 00:10:54 Guess next year we'll find out who's better. Good game, everybody. Like how how is that possible that would that's the most un-American thing of all time? I agree We also had Christian Kirk thing of all time. I agree. We also had Christian Kirk smash his own nuts. That was tough. Mr. Belvedere. I know that it says it's a groin or a abdomen, but watching that replay, I think he just squished his own nuts. That's why you got to sleep with the pillow in between your legs. They called it a core injury. That is your core. Your nuts are the very definition of your core. It's everything. It's your power. It's your life. It's your virality. The interception that Josh Allen had last night was very hilarious. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:26 That was the definition of two cute. Zach Taylor got a little too cute with it. Yeah, you got Jake Browning out there dealing. Dealing, 32 for 37. And it wasn't only short passes. He was throwing the ball all over the field. Now, part of that is because I think the Bengals have a pretty good roster and T Higgins,
Starting point is 00:11:41 he's a big difference maker too. And you can just get the ball and Jamar Chase's hands and he'll do crazy shit with it. But yeah, Jake Browning looked good. Jake Browning had, so Trevor Lawrence has been in the league for one, four years now. Jake Browning had, it would be the third most yards Trevor Lawrence has ever thrown for. So Trevor Lawrence is only throwing his highest game is 368. He has a game of 364 and Jake Browning yesterday through for 354
Starting point is 00:12:05 It was a great game Jake Browning might be next up. It was a really good game Yeah, and the helmets looked awesome. So yeah, it was a fun game. It's fun to have these games It's like hey, it's a reminder you think that game's gonna suck on paper than it was awesome and and now we have the Patriots Steelers and we got to just suck it up. What if this game is awesome? Yeah. This game actually could be, it could be so bad that it's fun. Yeah. It could broncos Colts last year. Broncos Colts is so bad that it was memorable. It's sucked for about three quarters and then it got fun.
Starting point is 00:12:33 It got funny. This might be fun the entire time because it's going to be so bad. It's, yeah, it could be very funny. Before we talk about Thursday because we're gonna have that stream as well memes Zach Wilson so That's a thing Zach Wilson if people missed it Zach Wilson Robert Salah said that he's thinking about going back to Zach Wilson and now Zach there's a report that Zach Wilson's thinking about not playing because why would he? Yeah, and then Aaron Rogers also said that that report was horture. Oh, yeah. Aaron does the media media, but it was an anonymous source.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So you have to take that with a grain of salt. If Zach Wilson doesn't want to come back and play, that's some bullshit right there. That's bullshit. Like they rode with you for a long time. They're trying to go back to you. It's not like they mistreated Zach Wilson. We can fairly say that, right? Like there are some players where you can make an argument,
Starting point is 00:13:26 they never really got a fair shake, whether it be like coaches being fired, thrown under the bus by people. Zach Wilson was put on top of the bus. I think he's just, he's thinking like, they're probably gonna cut me so I don't wanna get injured. But yeah, Robert Salott stayed with you for a lot longer than he should have.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah, probably to his own detriment. For sure, for his own detriment. Yeah, he had every opportunity to throw Zach into the bus. After every game where Zach would do something new that was a completely brand new fuck-up for him, Robert Salas would be like, you know, there's some things that I think he could do better, but you know, I think he's the kind of guy that's going to get in the film room and work on things and we won't make the same mistake twice.
Starting point is 00:14:05 He always said like he had the nicest way of saying, yeah, Zach Wilson sucked up. Yeah, he sucked. So if that reports true, I mean, I don't really think he had much of a career lined up as a backup. He doesn't give me backup vibes. Your backup can't have a bandana, but you know, it's the NFL and there's always a coach who's like, I can fix that. And then like, oh, well, his arm talent's still there. You got a bunch of, you got a bunch of Billy footballs running around. There's OCs being like, I could get the, I could get the most out of that. That's a very scary thought. Yeah, but it's true. Like everyone thinks, you know, you always, it seems like you always get at least one more
Starting point is 00:14:38 shot. Yeah. Yeah. If you're, if you're, what was he second? Second overall. It'll be a team that brings him on. But I don't even Josh Rosen got a couple other bounce back spots that he didn't he can get a lot of like playing time, but he at least got a look. Yeah guys get looks. So yeah, memes. What do you think? Do you need the do you need the Zach Wilson spark? a told disaster they cut Tim Boyle today. Why? They lanced him. They brought in Brett Rypen. Okay. Yeah. So I think I'm gonna guess he's gonna be the quarter
Starting point is 00:15:10 back. This is so this is so it doesn't want to be so this is like there they're actually it feels like the jets are running a fun razor to see who will start a quarterback. It might as well just do that. Like why not just have a fan give away play a game for the jets this quarterback. Billy. Yeah. Like the movie invincible. Yeah, it does seem dry out like make a wish.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It's insane that they're, I mean, they cut Tim Boyle being like, yeah, we'll figure, we'll get someone else. Yeah, I mean, you're already a Tim Boyle. Where is Colt McCoy? Where is Colt McCoy? What is Colt McCoy doing right now? And how does he not have this eyes in RG3? He wants it. Yeah, he wants that. RG3 will take it. Yeah, it's actually ironic because
Starting point is 00:15:52 grit week 2021 Billy bought a Zack Drillson Jersey at the football hall of fame and Ken. Yeah, really at the gift shop. Yeah, there was a Zach Wilson Jersey in the football hall. Yeah, he had him played yet. So it was like a big deal. Yeah, it's bad. I'm reaching out to RG3 right now for comment. Would you play for the Jets? I will update you and be like, yeah, man. Do you, uh, Max also for you, Shaq Leonard?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. Big Dom picking him up at the airport. That was old. That was last week's picture. When he visited, he picked him up at the airport. That was old. That was last week's picture. When he visited, he picked him up from the airport. So was Big Dom in jail? Is he in trouble?
Starting point is 00:16:32 I think pretty sure he was on Chris Long's show. And he's wearing a wire. Was that not last week as well? Or earlier? That could have also been earlier. I think Big Dom might be in trouble, because like the NFL is getting... Well, the NFL is gonna come for him him and then that might that might be the best.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Eagles might have to leave the NFL. Leave the NFL. Well, I guess. Yeah, you know, they're just going to. Yeah, they're going to go to the SEC or something. I think you'd be funny if Dom came out of the sidelines with like a whole new look, like a mustache. He's in.
Starting point is 00:17:02 He's in. Yeah, witness protection program. No, he wouldn't be Dom. If he like came in looking like a nerd. he's in, yeah, witness protection program. No, it wouldn't be dumb. If he like came in looking like a nerd. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't take, you don't take the, you don't take the Italian out of dumb.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You don't notify dumb. You just go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, Shaq Leonard Shaq Leonard big pickup. You need guys. He's a guy. Text back from rg3. I said would you play for the jets hypothetically? rg3 says hypothetically yes, okay, he's in Robert Griffin third has agreed to play for the New York Jets Memes make the call. Yep. Why not do it? Memes. I mean why not let's just run it. There's no reason. Let's see how weird we can get this season right? Let's say bring T-bo back. Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. Bring T-Bow back. RG3, Colin Kaepernick, Johnny Gaffer George. Just do it all. They're far from releasing like everybody they saw
Starting point is 00:17:51 under in the preseason too. This season is just an absolute disaster. I did see you. Very funny. Our friend Steve Pollett Zolo from Pro Football Focus, he had a good idea, which is that there should be no trade that deadline for quarterbacks. Yeah, I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah. You should be able, for the good of the league, you should be able to move something like Imagine Kyle Murray could have stepped in on the judge this year. I think we talked about that like a month ago. I don't know. I think we did, but yeah, there should not be. There should not be because it would be better for the game. Yep.
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Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, I do too. So yeah, we'll talk college football. Jaden Daniels is a finalist for the Heisman. It's he, Marvin Harrison, Michael Penex, and Bo Nix. I also liked that the Heisman released it and put out all their stats, and Jaden Daniels just has better stats than all of them. I think all the votes have been cast, so we...
Starting point is 00:19:37 I don't think meeting members are allowed to talk about it after. No, they aren't. They aren't. So it's in God's hands now. I think they should have invited sweat from Texas. You gotta get one big boy up there. Yeah, I Mean Jordan Travis too. They said it was such a big deal that he wasn't
Starting point is 00:19:51 Oh, you can do that chick. I mean, I saw it online, but it's true. I got least invited. Yeah, yeah His numbers probably weren't there to be invited, but uh, we know who's actually to blame for Florida state not getting in now We found that out yesterday. Who it It's Jake's guy, Trump. Oh. Actually, it's not Jake's guy. I go to Santa's. It's the Santa. It's the Santa.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Trump weighed in on it. Yeah. Trump weighed in on it and said on Truth Social, it's a really bad lobbying effort. Let's blame the sanctimonious. I like that. Meet Paul Ron is the blame. And to be fair, I didn't hear Ron to Santa say shit.
Starting point is 00:20:22 No, he wasn't fighting. Wait, is Florida, is Florida State University, is that a school that's run by the state of Florida? It is. Who's the governor of Florida? DeSantis, Dominion. Meet Paul Ron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:32 He said something. Well, Simon and Rick Scott released a statement too. Oh yeah, we're at this part of the process is people just releasing statements and strongly worded letters. I think they even actually, I think Rick Scott said that the state of Florida is going to give a million dollars to sue the NCAA, which will. I'm sure that's going to work out.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yeah, that's going to be like like two days of lawyers. Yeah, that's not. And they're just going to be like, all right, we got nothing. This is, I always love it when politicians weigh in like a week late on a sports issue. Yeah. That their staff has told them that they should talk about because relevant right now. And they always like mispronounced the player's name, screw everything up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Was it Tech Crews at basketball goal? The basketball ring maybe? Yeah. Or something like that. I think was it Ted Kennedy that messed up David Ortiz or Mani Ramirez? Yeah. It's it's it's it's on though. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:21:21 KG and Han whatever whenever all to get in the mix with sports. But yeah, the FSU The fans I think are cut you know, we said this on Sunday But the good news is you can fight about this on Twitter forever Yeah, and they are and they should they should keep going you like keep doing it a hundred percent use this as an opportunity If you beat George to claim that natty. Oh, without a doubt. And it will sell national champions. Yeah, no, yeah, we're in. We're fighting for Florida State. But, um, and then we have the transfer portal, which I think there was like 4,000 kids
Starting point is 00:21:52 went in the trance. It's insanity. And there's also a little smoke going around Ohio State because they had 11 guys going the transfer portal, including Kyle McCord. And then there's some reports that Ryan Daze may be shopping himself to the NFL. Interesting. So that never works though. No. The only time that's ever worked, Jimmy Johnson, right? Yeah. Who else? No, it's you can't you can't shop yourself or you're talking about college jumping from college to the Harbour Harbour. Harbour. Pete Carroll, but he was NFL. He was NFL first. Yeah, but strictly like a college coach jumping to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I think the only times it's worked, Jimmy Johnson, and then you can make the case. Probably missing one. We always do this to ourselves. Matt Ruhl. Matt Ruhl. Matt Ruhl. Urban Meyer.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. Steve Spurger. Very switcher run. He won a Super Bowl. He did with Jimmy Johnson's guys. Yeah. That was, yeah, little asterisk there. Nick Sabin. Joey Harrington said that Nick Saban, they were, they were turning the corner.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Bobby Patrino. They were ready to go. Bobby, Bobby is the one. A lot of failed guys. You, he like wrote it on a cocktail napkin and left in the locker room, but he had a piece of out. Kool-Brien, 52 and 48.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But he was NFL first. Yeah, he was with the Patriots and then he went to, yeah, he went to the Penn State and then he went to Texans. Yeah. So yeah, it's tough. It's a tough jump to make. I just want to go ahead and predict this.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Whatever team hires Ryan Day as an NFL coach will be a complete failure. I'd help their soul. It would be funny. I don't, I'm not rooting for the Panthers to keep up this streak that they're on with Tepper, but it would be a Tepper move to just like, forget his second to last mistake and go back to that well again, give him a seven year contract,
Starting point is 00:23:31 be like boom splash play. Yeah, look, we got the hot name that has just been dragged and can't beat. I mean, that would be an all-time coward move by Ryan Day, run away from Michigan. You can't do that, you have to stay. You have to stay and try to beat them. You have to go out on a win Basically, you have to just figure out a way to cheat harder. Yeah, that's that's the name of the game in college football
Starting point is 00:23:52 Cheat harder get better players. I mean, they already get really good players, but they got to figure yeah Ryan day, you can't do it. You can't do it. Um, okay low-man trophy Yes, the most prestigious award. Oh, we've got Chip Kelly. He was great. Yeah, Chip Kelly was good for one season. Yeah, remember he coached Niners for season. Yeah, that was weird. That was weird, but he was good on the Eagles for one season. Yeah Yeah, the low man trophy. It's the most prestigious award in college football goes to the nation's top fullback I sent out the ballots over the weekend to get our finalists down. There are a lot of great fullbacks out there. And the committee is strong this year. Committee is very strong.
Starting point is 00:24:29 On the committee, I have received word from Cole Kubilich, John Kuhn. We've got Aaron Ripkowski. We've got Lorenzo Neal. Mike Allstad, just a who's who? I like this. A fullbacks wing and on this word, as well as Hank slash Tom for Nelly Mm-hmm and Andy Staples is on there too. So we have we have a finalist right now So I'm just gonna read them down for you
Starting point is 00:24:53 The finalist for the low-mantro fee the best fullback in college football Ben Senate from Kansas State. Okay Ernest Crown Roar from Texas A&M. What a name. Max Britison from Michigan. Khalil Mullings from Michigan. Great names. Owen Burke from Air Force. Stone Ebi from SMU. Hayden Large from Iowa.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Eli Hydenreich from Navy. Hydenreich literally translates to Argentina. I love that. Yes. So we've got some good names. I think these are the most full-backest names in the history of the Lomand trophy that we're dealing with right now.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I just actually had one more come in. Okay, it's another nomination for Ernest Crownroer from Texas A&M. So people might be asking, is he gonna get the leg up right now? He might. Well, I'm leaning large just after hearing the names. Yeah, your size can has been winnative.
Starting point is 00:25:48 That would be good. I mean, Hayden large going into the season. I think he was the favorite just for the picture. And he is the guy that's like 6'3, 280, 2'90. What are we gonna announce it? So we could either announce it on, oh yeah, it's far still cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:03 So in the pre-game ceremony, we'll do it last year. It went to Hunter Leppki. He, yeah, it's Barcelona. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in the pre-game ceremony, we'll do it last year. It went to Hunter Leppki. He's on the Cowboys now. So we'll announce it in the pre-game for the Arizona Bowl between Wyoming and Toledo. Yes. I think we're on the air around 4 p.m. Eastern time.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Okay. December 30th. Nice. So that's gonna be exciting. And bar still about TV. Yeah. All right, should we talk about the elephant in the room? Max?
Starting point is 00:26:29 That was mean. Sorry, Max, that was mean. 24 hour stream is starting today, 9 PM central. It's gonna be on the part of my take YouTube for people who don't remember Mount Rushmore season. This was the punishment. Max and Hank will be going into a room and they will not leave for 24 hours outside of bathroom breaks.
Starting point is 00:26:54 What's the famous saying? Hell is other people. So basically you're just going to be hanging out with another guy in a room for 24 hours. 24 hours. There will be challenges. There will be activities. None of which you were aware of. in a room for 24 hours. 24 hours. There will be challenges, there will be activities, none of which you were aware of.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So you guys are very nervous. We had a meeting yesterday. Okay, not nervous. Sorry, one on the record, not nervous. We had a meeting yesterday and PFT came back me up. Jake was there as well. I said, quote, there can't be anything that is deemed as torture. That's what I said. I said, there was there can't be anything that is deemed as torture.
Starting point is 00:27:26 That's what I said. I said, there was ideas thrown out there and I said, no, that's like borderline torture. We're not doing torture. We have activities for you guys to fill your hours. Yeah, you guys won't be bored. Right, we're doing things that will be fun, that people will have fun watching you do.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So what is your issue? Who said there was issues? Oh, you guys have so many issues. You came in the room and you're like, we got some stuff we have to talk to. Yeah, go ahead, let's hear it. No, and this is a losing battle, and I know the gas lights are on,
Starting point is 00:27:57 the lamps are fully stocked with oil, and ready to go. Is it oil or the gas? Whatever it might be. And this might sound like sour grapes. It probably is. But. Pick Jerome better than the Rams.
Starting point is 00:28:10 If I wanna read it. I wanna read it. I wanna read it. I want to read it. I want to ask what's a hang. I want to read it. I want to read it. I want to read it.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I want to read it quote from Hank. It's actually you talking because it's your own words. This is from June 28th, 2023. I let my entire family down with today's Mount Rushmore simply have to be better. You yourself admitted that this is a self-inflicted wound. Yeah, no, I have no issue. We lost Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I had maxed my team. I was really just anchored. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I knew about that. It is what it is. What about the week that you... It impacted the final week. What about the week where you got two drunk one Friday and then you're like I
Starting point is 00:28:48 Couldn't do it. What about the week when he went away and I was dominant right that you Hank's gaslighting you yeah Stacked the work you said hey me and every accusation For the Hank is a fashion like entire pie chart of the fans of the show or fans of me and big hat Let's be on one team you guys who just started on the show and Hank as another team wait just Billy and I we've been on the show for nine months. We've were last place for like three straight weeks Yeah, yeah, then so it's all your issue is Going at me right now. Yeah, this is Hank is just shooting in everyone. Yeah, I'm not No again like this is you're not again, he's not much more as the past We love it. We're more fair and square you've attacked everyone in this
Starting point is 00:29:34 reverse bucocky The my again, and it is what it is. I'm I'm a isn't on the soul Is it is what it is? I is ready if I'm ready for battle if We're not allowed to have our phones for 24 hours my my only thing that I have you have opportunities to win your phones is if situations were reversed I guys would have rigged. Yeah, so like I said yes starting in 9 p.m Agreed crazy. Why because I have we have a full day of work like it's basically you're making us do 36 hours straight Like it's not if we were starting at a time where it makes sense for 24 hours and you can rest. I'm gonna start at eight. I'm gonna be up all day.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I'm gonna start at eight. Why don't you nap during the day? Yeah, you can work. You can work sleep in the, I have to do two days of sleep. You can sleep in the stream. But like that's, you're allowed to sleep. You didn't sleep about that.
Starting point is 00:30:21 No, I have thought about that. I didn't want to talk about that. Are you afraid that you're gonna get a boner in your sleep? I'll definitely I mean everyone gets boners in their sleep. That's a watch and bunch of me. No, we all's watching a get a boner to sleep. Okay, new rule. You have to sleep on your back and only in the boxer shorts. No, sleep talking is a concern.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Sure. But I just it's if the situation's reversed, it just, it's agreed. You guys would make this way easier for yourself. I do remember Great Week 2020, the 24 hours, we started that noon. Great project. So what time you want to start?
Starting point is 00:30:57 No, it is what it is. It's too late. It's just lunch. We can't. You want to start at eight? You want to start a little earlier? No, that would be, no, eight would have hurt us. Why?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Get in there at eight. Because we're not recording until after Thursday and I football. Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. That doesn't make any difference. Because you would have to record after Thursday. Or you could come watch Thursday and I football with us. No, but that means nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Hanks is lead by it. Third time football, 100%. But we have to do the show after. Correct. So like so it's basically we're doing a 40 hour. But that's fine, that's fine. You're not coming to sleep in tomorrow. You're not Hank.
Starting point is 00:31:33 What part of this don't you understand? It's two o'clock. It starts at nine p.m. on Wednesday and then it ends. No, it starts at nine p.m. on two on Wednesday. He said, he said, he has it. I said, you can sleep in. He said, we have advisors. We have advisors at 9 p.m. on Tuesday. No, no, he said he has it. I said you can sleep in. He said we have advisors. We have it.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Okay. Well, you're going to start this stream at 9 p.m. on Wednesday. And then you're going to be done at 9 p.m. on Thursday. You can sleep on Wednesday afternoon. You can sleep over the course of the night. I don't see what the problem is. You're going to make me be awake for the Patriot stream. No.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You can go sleep on the stream. Yeah. I don't want to sleep on the stream. I think you're just. I would sleep on the stream. No, you can go sleep on the stream. Yeah, I don't want to sleep on the stream. I Think you're just I would sleep on the stream We could do a little we could take a couple little snoozes You have to why don't you just take a bunch of night cool tonight and sleep in Here he did that on set. No, my plan is I I Free balled some night quality other night. It was it I over over dose My bad like I didn't have the cup. Yeah. Oh, you just guessed it. I just did two gulps. Oh, no two gulps is too much
Starting point is 00:32:32 So so your issue is I don't have any add about the mouth Russ and I'm not mad about the most for more. I'm really excited for the stream gonna be a lot of chatting With the chat a lot of interaction. Would you guys like to start at eight? So that way you can sleep during the Patriots game and then we can do the show at 11? No, I would rather start at nine. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I don't understand why you want to start at eight. I don't, I'm trying to help Hank in any way that he wants to. So the problem that Hank's found himself in right now is he wants something to complain about. So when we start to address his concerns, then he acts like that doesn't actually address his concern. I have no complaints. I have no concerns. All my only point, which is valid and Big Head has said it is like, if you guys have lost, correct, we'd be doing like six
Starting point is 00:33:14 hours and be on your phone. That's not true. We would not be doing six hours. We'd be doing 24 hours. I would go without my phone. And you still have a chance to win your phone. Yeah, I don't think we can be complaining until... Right, that's the point. You're pre-compatible. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all.
Starting point is 00:33:30 You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all.
Starting point is 00:33:38 You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all. You're actually at all., this is bullshit. All the fans would be like, yeah, that is bullshit. Instead, you pre-complay.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I have not. And the fact that it's gonna actually be fun and fun to watch, you're gonna look like a big pussy. Well, it's a good thing I haven't complained to. Right, yeah, right. Except when you stormed in here this morning, you're like, we got to talk about this. It's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Why are we starting at this? We have very, do you wanna know one thing we're gonna do? No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's keep listening. You know, it's a good teaser for the people very do you want to know one thing we're gonna do? No, no, no, no, let's keep you know. It's a good teaser for the people to watch Yeah, you want to know one thing you're gonna do you guys are gonna paint You're gonna paint some some art for us. Okay, so there you go Yeah, we already know that I'm gonna be reading there will be reading materials for you. You're gonna read Hank you could yeah We're new popcorn reading there's a chance you're gonna be reading, there will be reading materials for you. You're gonna read, Hank? You could, yeah, we're new popcorn reading.
Starting point is 00:34:25 There's a chance you're gonna get to play some video games. Like, there's fun things that are involved in that. There will be physical activity. Yeah. Like, you're gonna get a sweat. You're gonna get a nice sweat. You're also gonna get four meals from Chef Donnie. How about that?
Starting point is 00:34:39 So, you complaining makes you look like a baby. I have not, it's going to be fun. Like, I haven't complained. We have come up with all these things that will make it fun for people to watch and fun for you guys to interact. I have one fear. I have one fear and one fear. Don't act.
Starting point is 00:34:57 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no don't know what that means, but as long as no you get you guys I This was part of I need to take an emotive before I go. No, this was part of the torture talk. There will be whenever We'll be a litter box. There will be no there will be no restrictions on using the bathroom Okay, it will be but it's scouts on it like don't start going to the bathroom every two minutes Yeah, but if you guys need to go to the bathroom you have to go to the bathroom We're not going to try to torture you, you have to go to the bathroom. We're not going to try to torture you. Like, you need to go, you have to, you can go.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I'm fine with pissing in bottles, but I don't think it's my only way. You can go piss too. We're not, we're not making this. We literally max, we're making it so that Hank can't complain because we know that that's what Hank wants to do. So we had this discussion. We're like, should we do bathroom breaks?
Starting point is 00:35:43 No. If you have to go to the bathroom, you just raise your hand. All right. The bathroom. All right. I would never complain. Yeah, right. What's this gold. It's going to suck for you now because you complain.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I have it. I haven't complained at all. It's going to be fun. Have a positive attitude about a Hank because this I always have a positive attitude. It's on the show. Yeah, okay. What was your question? What is the gold and mug time? Yeah, we're going to be doing golden mug, Stel Blue on Thursday. So there will be a chance for people who want to buy something on StelBlueCoffee.com that day, we will give out a phone number
Starting point is 00:36:15 that people can call into and talk to the Hank and Max at some point in the stream. We have guests too. This will be all in the part of my take YouTube, correct? Yes, we have guests. I'm gonna get a tattoo. I believe the Twitch channel too. Yeah, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be so much fun. I'm excited. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:36:34 No, I'm not. Yeah. I'm excited. Max, Max, credit to Max. He is not complaining once. He gets the credit. I did, I did question the poop. That was the only thing.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And I answered it. Would you think that's a good answer? Yeah, no, never any need to go. That did question the poop. That was the only thing. And I answered it. Would you think that's a good answer? Yeah. No. Whenever you need to go. That was my only word. Thank you. Been in jail before. This is going to be so much easier. Yeah. It's literally, it's not even a box. The original idea was going to be like a white box.
Starting point is 00:36:56 You're in a podcast room. Yeah. You were going to put like a straight jacket on you. Why me? This is what you're pointing at. It's not a credit. It's because I'm waiting for somebody to say something. Credit to you? For what?
Starting point is 00:37:07 For not complaining? Okay, credit time for not complaining. How long were you in jail for? How many hours? 24. Time. Oh. Oh, there's multiple.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I was in jail from like three o'clock PM. We got arrested thinking we were gonna get out the same day. We got in the car. They're like, yeah, you guys got rest at way too late in the day. We're not gonna be able to process you to the morning. So we gotta rest at as early as you can get so you have to be in there all day and knock it out to the next morning.
Starting point is 00:37:33 So we're there from like 3 p.m. to 7 a.m. That's hard time. Yeah. Hard time. I'm thinking Hank might have some text messages. He's gonna want to be responding to. Might be hard to explain What you're up to Tiffany can watch the stream
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah, didn't chat All right, what? You have one last thing I'm not now on a complaint not no not a complaint a goal excitement It would be sick. I don't know how we could do this, but we have 970,000 on TikTok, like 900, what do we have on Instagram memes? Subathon.
Starting point is 00:38:17 946. 946 and Twitter. We have 905.9. 905.9, if there was ever, I don't know what the add-on would be, but like, and this could be me volunteering, not complaining, volunteering. If we can somehow get all three to one million
Starting point is 00:38:33 in the same stream, I would do another 24 hours. Oh! Oh! Okay. Okay. What about a month? You do a month? No.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Oh. So, are you asking memes? Yeah, I don't know. Get YouTube to a month? No. Oh. Is that what you're asking me? Yeah, I don't know. Get YouTube to a million too. What? One of my ideas that we're not doing because it's torture would be just hangs sitting and staring at a camera without saying a word for five hours.
Starting point is 00:39:00 That's called Sunday night in the part of my takes to the aisle. That's true. You think you do that's true I could do anything you could do it. You are your smart boy strong Smart yeah, except for win-mouther rush more. Yeah Strong bettis you lost the Taco Bell vote. Yeah Although that was bullshit because Jake and Billy just did AI version. Yeah, it's never had talk about what you want me to do. Yeah. Okay, let's do hot sea cool throne.
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Starting point is 00:40:27 cores brewing company, golden, Colorado, hot seat, cool through own hank. My hot seat we just talked about it was me, Max. Oh, okay. You wanna talk about more? No. What did you have written down for your hot seat for that? That sounds like a complaint.
Starting point is 00:40:40 It was just a lot of complaints. I have written down hot seat me and Max. Okay. Glad we covered that we sick Yeah, I'm recovering And this is gonna just whatever my cool My cool throne is video games. Yes, and a big big big month for video games. I feel like Fortnite has come back. They've had their highest player, you know, base ever. War zones coming out today. I'm missing out on the war zone premiere because of 24 hour stream, but it drops on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And then GTA 6 finally released their trailer yesterday. And yeah, that's, we've done it. We've gotten to the point where I can't tell if it's a video game of real life. Unfortunately, it doesn't come out to like 2027, but that clip of the girl's shaking her booty on the car, I was like, is that real? I don't, it finally happened
Starting point is 00:41:38 where my brain can't process video games in reality. When GTA first came out, it was possible. It was unlike anything you'd ever seen. Like no other, no previous video game even allowed you to come close to like breaking the law like that, except for maybe like cruising USA. But then GTA pops out and you're like, you can just drive over every pedestrian, pick up hookers, shoot people on the street. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah, they're back. I feel like the original GTA is though, it was impossible to get a crime and then you'd be arrested within a minute. It was so hard to evade the cops. Yeah, all those stars. Yeah. It didn't got fun.
Starting point is 00:42:18 So yeah, if you do games or back, I'm excited for Warzone. GTA does look sweet. Looks so sweet. We're gonna have to get in. Looks so sweet. My hot seat is amateurism. Oh, amateurism on the hot seat. The NCAA is putting forth a new, I don't know if it's a regulation or just an opportunity. They're making it so that certain colleges, any colleges, in fact, can contribute up to $30,000 a year,
Starting point is 00:42:45 put it in a trust for all of trust for 50% of their athletes. So this is a big step towards getting players actually paid, like paid by the schools. That's the difference. Like NIL, you can have a group of the biggest car dealerships and Knoxville Tennessee get together. And they're like, hey, we've got $5 million for you to give out to anybody that's at the transfer portal.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And then the school will then interface with the player, recruit them. The NIL group will then be like, okay, we're going to pay you. Now this could directly come from the school itself. Nice. Which pretty much means like we're gonna have, if you think that the halves and have knots are bad right now, once this gets into place,
Starting point is 00:43:22 it's gonna be like the major leagues college sports. Yes. And then everybody else is the minor leagues. If this actually ends up happening. But I read a whole article and I got more confused. Yeah, the article I read was pretty much like if you're a rich school with a big endowment and a wealthy alumni base, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Texting them because you're gonna be. Congratulations. Yeah, finally, Texas A&M will be able to afford. It'll get 10 wins. To pay money to money to get wins My cool throne is Yokech. Yeah, Yokech Did you know that he leads the NBA and points rebounds and assists right now? It's fucking insane what Yokech is so good. I think I feel like we're in the trap of not appreciating how great Yokech is Yeah, let's take on take more time Jake. Can you put a reminder? I do a
Starting point is 00:44:08 Monthly a monthly reminder what day the month you want it? What no wait what number is he? That's 15 no He's for no 15. Yeah, I know all right. I know ball is that a good plan 15th every month 15th of every month We should set aside to just say some reminder self that Yoke is Yoke is on we did this the the best part of the world curry. Yeah, it's best player in the world. I know it's Steph Curry washed. We also will have an NBA preview probably in two months with Ryan or Sillow so get ready for that. Yeah, Yoke is out of this world. Good. Did you see that thread that Ricella put out the other day? Yeah, of him on the artwork for part of my take episodes and we get progressively fatter. Yeah, I don't know if we're doing that on purpose,
Starting point is 00:44:46 but it's funny if we are. Shut up, Trigg. Yeah. I think Trigg's doing on purpose. Yeah. I love that. I love that. What?
Starting point is 00:44:53 We're, Well, we're still figuring it out. I know, he's, he said to keep it in, he said to keep it in the dark for as long as possible. Well, I mean, it's pretty obvious. He texted me, he texted, like, like months ago, he was like, I'm just gonna keep sending him,
Starting point is 00:45:03 sending him to the maddening. I love him. And just wait until he was like, I'm just gonna keep sending him, sending him to the address. I love him. And just wait until he figures it out. Oh, how are you? Oh, yeah. I'm still in PODWARS right now on Twitter. With who? Well, we have his back.
Starting point is 00:45:12 We can cut this if we ask him. No, no, we don't have to give it to us. Well, who's in PODWARS worth? Uh, Levitard basically went at Spotify saying that they put out false numbers for the top 10. Oh, because they weren't in the top 10. Yeah, that's convenient. And then, Rassilla was like, all right, I got Rassilla's back. Rassilla says, do you guys really want to do this?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Let me know. I'm retreating it. We stand with Rassilla. He's our guy. Yeah, pod worse. So we're not in this pod war, but we're standing by and standing back for it. Also we were number two. So it's like, maybe we can...
Starting point is 00:45:44 I actually agree with love it Tart they're suppressing our And they're giving all our listens to Tart's boyfriend. Yeah You got to start dating Taylor Hank or Beyonce or do a leapa do a leapa single. Yeah, Hank trying to do a feature hang do a do it Okay, my hot seat is the Blue Jays because it came out that show Hey,
Starting point is 00:46:08 what was the exact tweet? It was something about show Hey visiting with the Blue Jays and I think by show Hey's rules, the Blue Jays should be eliminated. They should be. I saw something very, very smart that they did here in Chicago and the way back from the airport,
Starting point is 00:46:21 there's just a giant billboard of show Hey O'Connie listing all of his stats. Love that. How good he is. That somebody very clearly spent probably six figures on in that prominent location, just for the one trip that O'Connie's gonna make from O'Hare Airport to downtown Chicago.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I love that. Smart use of money. Ken Rosenthal said, Shohe O'Connie, Blue Jays believe to have met Monday a team's Florida complex. See ya, buddy. See ya, Blue Jays. to have met Monday a team's Florida complex. See a buddy. See a blue J's. What? They're doing this forever. They just did the same thing for the Dodgers. I think that that's
Starting point is 00:46:51 the Dodgers. I think that's gone. I haven't seen one for the Cubs. Well, it was Nightingale. Yeah, Nightingales aren't interested. The Nightingale said is the Cubs, they believe show his interest in the Cubs is waning, which I think given Bob night and gale's track record, that's a very good thing. His Twitter picture is so funny. He always looks like a gym teacher. I think we should just report New York Yankees
Starting point is 00:47:16 have also met with Shohei Otani. Put that out there that we Shohei will get pissed off and take them off the list. Ooh, we should just do fake reports from the games that he's visited. Yeah. Shohei Ot's visited. Yeah. So, Shohei Otoni has now officially visited with every team in Major League Baseball,
Starting point is 00:47:30 except for the Nationals, Cubs, Filly's, and the Red Sox. Yes. My cool throne is the NBA in season tournament because it kind of rocks. Pacers beat the Celtics last night. The Pelicans beat the Kings. It was an awesome crowd. Did you watch the Celtics last night, the Pelicans beat the Kings. It was an awesome crowd. Did you watch the game, Hank? Well, I'm sorry, I'm reading, I'm trying to get
Starting point is 00:47:50 in this podcast war. Okay. You know what, that's actually more important. What are you talking about? Did you watch the sells got balanced for the N.C.'s internment? Yeah, no, I watched. Were you upset? Yeah. See, that means it worked. Yeah, that's, it's good. So I have a question about the in-season tournament. Isn't the courts are fucking disgusting? Yeah, they are. They are. They are.
Starting point is 00:48:11 They are. They are. They are legitimately is nice. Like, I watched the volume bar, so flip to that. And it was just like, this is disgusting. Isn't the entire season in in-season tournament to see who wins their division? But the players get paid.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah. It's working. It's working. It's working. I will say that I was critical at first. It didn't make sense in the beginning, but now that it's more organized, it's like quarter finals, semi-finals finals, it's like, yeah, I want to win.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And for the players, it's like, yeah, that's $1 million. You're playing hard in November, which is the goal. Yeah. I like the point differential. The crowd was awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:44 The crowd's good, and I liked the strategy at end of games when it's like, yeah, you're winning, but you have to keep your foot on the gas because point differential is a tie breaker and stuff, so you just blow out, so you're still trying to blow them out. So I'm a fan. Yeah, the tournament becomes more real one. Of course, it got to go.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Once you see a bracket, at that point, it's like my brain can comprehend. And a seed in the score bug, middle number. Yeah. And a bracket, at that point, it's like my brain can comprehend. And a seed. Yeah. And a score bug, middle number. Yeah. And I was already thinking like T-Share if we would have sold, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:09 in season tournament champion T-Share it's what I'm in for me. So you were upset. That means it worked. Yeah. Good. All right. So yeah, in season tournament,
Starting point is 00:49:17 all right, Jake, your hot sea cool throw. My hot sea's next statement. Uh oh. His phone number got leaked. And apparently, 250 anonymous callers called him. That's fair. Oh, his phone number got leaked and apparently 250 anonymous callers called him a lot of FSU fans. That's very little. Yeah, that seems pretty light But he he answered some of them. He did Yeah, calling me every name in the book talking about how we shouldn't be in the playoff
Starting point is 00:49:39 Can you we can you bring up his number Jake? I don't have a ship by now John Rich wrote a blog on it That's kind of awesome though. Okay. So he's like, he's open to the haters. Yeah. My cool throne is Tuha. Tuha played the guitar on the Manning Castle on the night.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah. And I think he's gonna collab with Darius Rucker. Ooh. Oh, that, we love Darius Rucker and I fell collabs. That one clip of Tuha dodging the rush is so awesome. We just shook his shoulder. Darius Rucker said, I'm in for a two a collab. There we go.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Two of Darius. Shout out to one of the people of A-Written. Who do you, my favorite band? Who does your favorite band? Well, it's kind of an inside joke because I got exposed for not knowing them. Oh, yeah. Two years ago. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Who is your favorite band, Jake? Pup punk, brought you by my partner. Come on, I'm gonna say you don't listen to me. You don't listen to me. Eight thousand Jake's one of those weirdos does listen to me. Correct. I mean, I listen to you, but I'm not gonna,
Starting point is 00:50:34 like, go out of my way, like, pick a certain. Well, no, that means you don't listen to me. Like, did you have, I even have a Spotify wrapped? Yeah, it was like part of my take. No, but you, you have a choice. So, do you like, if you're in in a car you're not like turning on the radio Jesus what about on a like today hits on a plane today is hits yeah, I mean you won't listen to music Or like wash something what about when you're when mr. Positions is an action. Yeah, you listen
Starting point is 00:51:03 Archelyon he listens to like What's that cardon I'm already talking about boomer. Oh Yeah, why are these lights flashing? Cheso hello from YouTube from our new camera angle. We got memes in the mix now. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Camera everybody's been wanting to look at memes. Yeah Memes is beautiful boy Look at him. He's so beautiful Memes not a people person just so everyone knows he doesn't bite, but he kind of does Memes memes was born out of the internet. I feel like this is the first time people are seeing memes for some people Yeah, yeah memes is is nice been in videos Loki one of the best athletes here at this company
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, you would never know it by the way he walks memes. I have a new best friend for you, too Oh Liam the no-context college football guy. We just hired yeah He is literally born from the internet just like you and he has the same mannerisms where it's like if you talk to him He's like I don't really want to do this you guys are gonna gonna have to go. I just want to mean. So well. Yeah. He wears sandals inside. Yeah, you guys, we just hired another meme. You guys should become best friends.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I don't think memes like some. Oh, no. No, no, no, I like them. This place isn't big enough for two of us. He does. That's my vibe of what memes is doing. Oh, this is my turf. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I'm the guy who's ordering tough to talk to. What the fuck? We already got one of these. I take screenshots. Yeah, I post pictures of you looking as fat as possible. Oh, that's not me. No, that's you. That's totally me. That's you.
Starting point is 00:52:35 All right, let's get to our interview. We got a great interview. We got Mo and Franz Wagner from the magic. Great, great interview with both these guys in studio. And it's brought to you by our friends at Armor shout out to Body Armor Body Armor helps us stay hydrated throughout our interviews with the biggest guests in the world packed with electrolytes and no artificial sweeteners flavors or dies. Body Armor hydrates the best athletes in the world and more importantly us during
Starting point is 00:52:57 interviews. Buy Body Armor today, visit the Body Armor Amazon store, retailers nationwide, available in stores nationwide head on over to Body Armor store on Amazon and get yours today. Okay, here they are, Mo and Franz Wagner. Oh! Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests, their brothers, I think this is the first time we've had brothers on at the same time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah. Well, we had the Cuomo's on. The Cuomo's out there. That went sideways real fast. We have the Wagner brothers Mo and Franz from New Orlando magic in studio Thank you guys for joining us First question did I say your last name correctly? Is it a V should I stew the V? No, if you say it American like that you said it right. Okay, but did I sound like a poser where people like you clearly He's American and he just try to go to Wagner.
Starting point is 00:53:46 No, that's that's the right way to see. Yeah. Okay. All right. Good. Appreciate that. Yes. Yes. So thank you guys for coming in.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We're very excited to have you on the show. We want to talk about your whole career. First, let's let's jump into this season. You guys are playing good ball. The magic. I feel like the magic got a little, you know, people are talking about the magic I feel like the magic got a little you know people are talking about the magic palo you guys how's it is it weird to play together in the NBA because it's pretty crazy to have two brothers on the same team yeah it's super special obviously it's super unique we got super lucky I got drafted
Starting point is 00:54:19 to the magic mode signed there the same year so we definitely enjoy it and it took a little bit of an adjustment period I would say at first. What was the adjustment period? Yeah, it was the adjustment period. There's a lot of there's a lot of emotion. They come together with both very emotional so when stuff doesn't go maybe all the way on the court there's a lot more you know stuff that comes up from the past and stuff like that when you get a marriage other so yeah like practice, you're like, yeah, like stuff like that. I remember when we were five and you were trying to do this. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:48 The 100%. A lot of that stuff comes up sometimes, but I mean, obviously, it's super cool for both of us for the whole family. So we're making the most out of it. Yeah, who's the more emotional of the two of you? Oh, that's tough. I would say Mo. Who's the messy bitch?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Mo? I mean, the emotional one? I'm more like external emotionally, I's tough. I would say mo. Who's the messy bitch? Mel? Well, you're a me emotional one. Um, I'm more like external emotionally, I would say. Uh, let it all out. Uh, and Franz is a little more low key. But if you know him really well, uh, you know when he has his phases as well enough, obviously knowing him as a tie of life. So, um, I can say that he's very emotional as well. Yeah. So, so being on the same team, team, is it like what's the locker room dynamic where everyone's like these guys are brothers?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Has anyone ever jokingly tried to talk shit to one of you about the other? Like, and this guy, you know, like most games sucks. He's like, dude, that's my brother. Well, I mean, I think we find a pretty good balance to like obviously embrace the brother thing, but also at the same time we different individuals and not everything I do, Frances to do on the other way around. So there's a certain boundary in with teammates as well, and we kind of embrace that difference
Starting point is 00:55:54 in relationship. And we also don't want to like kind of, I don't know, side with each other, you know, where our teammates feel weird about it. And I think we've gotten into very good organic habit in the locker room to just kind of respect each other as teammates and not only as brothers. Yeah, has there been a moment where you have to make a decision like,
Starting point is 00:56:12 wait, this would be a good opportunity for me to agree with everybody else that's not my brother. Just to show them like, hey, I'm on your side. Yeah, it's cool. I think that's not that big a thing. I think if I, if most of some that I don't agree with, I'll be totally honest and tell them that. Sure will. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I love the like healthy sibling rivalry between you two. Can we, can you guys compliment each other? Can you, can each brother say something to the other one of maybe one thing that they do well that you wish you could do better? You want us to do that live? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can start.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I think Franz, Franz is the ability to like, he has a very healthy curiosity about everything. So he comes in a room, observes everything, and kind of takes what he wants, what he needs for his life, and makes sense out of that. I think it's pretty unique for his age. I sometimes forget he's 22, right? 22 years old.
Starting point is 00:57:02 He's very mature for his age. So that's something I wish I had a little more way. I could just observe and just take everything what I want and what I don't want. And it's very reflective on that end. Yeah. That was good. That was a good answer. That was good. I had that. I had that. I had that ready. I prepared for the fun. All right. So, Franz, I would say what I like about how Moe just comes into a room is, you know, Moe is Moe. He won't change for anybody else. He's going to be straight up with you.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And I wish I had that sometimes a little bit more. I think sometimes I'm a little bit more, I don't know, no more conservative side. Don't want to take sides right away or say my opinion right away. I would love to know somebody in the room yet. And Moe, Moe's just being himself all the time, I think that's some that I can still do a little bit more. So it's interesting you brought that up because I had a question about this. Last year, Killian Hayes. I knew this was gonna get out of my head. Through a punch, sucker, sucker punch through the sucker punch, the back of the most head.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Notice that you weren't anywhere in the clip. I know there's a rule that you can't leave the bench. Were you on the bench at the time? I was on the bench. You did leave the bench? I was the last one to leave the bench. Okay, but like I saw that clip. I remember when it happened. I was like, where the fuck is France? That's a very good point. I felt bad for two, for two, for two different things. One was my brother and I didn't stick up for him in the moment and two I got fine
Starting point is 00:58:31 because I still left the bench. So it was the worst of both worlds. Double whammy. When you watched the clip back, did you notice that? I mean, I'll be honest with you, I had a lot going on. I didn't really care about what France did in that moment. Honestly, just try to get out of that hole. You're in the middle of it. That was a rough week
Starting point is 00:58:49 I think even if you had gotten up he would not have been able to get in there. Yeah, exactly It was a lot going on so my least worry was what France is doing right now It's just try to get out of that if that doesn't happen in front of their bench either. I don't think any of this is happening anyway so You don't want to like be on YouTube and social media because of stuff like that. I'll tell you that much. That's kind of where my head was at. So, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it would have been nice to see Frons in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Just saying it. Of course, Twitter. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, more as pro. I'll tell you what I'm from. I'm from Squarespace. I'll tell you what, I'll make up for it if Frons ever gets hit in the bag of hell. Like there. Like everywhere. I'll tell you what, I'll make up for it if Franz ever gets hit in the bag of hell. Like there.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I'll be right there. That's what brothers. Alright, so I want to talk about like your path to the NBA because obviously Germany, like there's there's dark and there's players from Germany, but it's not like, you know, a ton of players, the NBA in Germany. What was it like playing basketball in Germany when you were kids? Like it's not the main sport. What was that like, was it hard to find leagues, was it hard to find like an outlet for playing basketball
Starting point is 00:59:51 as a kid? Well, I think it's not, it's not difficult to find an outlet. The main difference is that basketball is super popular here and part of the reason is because everybody plays it in school. Right. So that's the first the first accessibility is the easiest part. You just go into basketball team in high school and then when you play there, you're the man and you're supposed to go to college and all of a sudden the MBA is right there. You can watch it every night on national television.
Starting point is 01:00:17 For us, it's kind of like a such. You made that sound way too easy. I mean, all we got to do is just be like the man in high school, the college and the NBA. Everyone does it. Yeah. Obviously, it's not easy at all. I didn't mean to sound like that, but like it's just like a very accessible world for us.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It's more, you know, you got to get up at three in the morning. If you want to watch these games, you really got to have that thought that you're going to make that happen for yourself and come up with that on your own. And I think that's the biggest challenge because that's not necessarily a German mentality either to kind of say, yeah, fuck it, I'll do it. Right. And I think that's the biggest challenge.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You go to a club, you have to kind of be able to coordinate school with club. And that's time, not very time efficient. You got to be very, you got to be grown up very early. And it's a different style of basketball, too, that you learn to play. So those are challenges that make it a lot harder or seem a lot harder at first. But once you got to college, there's a lot good to take, to take from that as well. I do think we take it for granted that like those, you know, baseball, football, basketball, even hockey, like, you know, there's an outlet right
Starting point is 01:01:26 when you're a little kid. Like kids are, you know, my kids in T-Ball, my kids are already playing basketball, it's like offered everywhere. One of them said. So you said style, what's the main difference in like learning European basketball that when you came over to America,
Starting point is 01:01:38 you're like, oh, this is different. And maybe something that helped you more than you realized. We can have a whole podcast about that. We can talk about, friends I talk about this all the time because I think, I mean, the biggest thing is, you learn to play without the ball. I think it's not about you when you learn to play in Europe.
Starting point is 01:01:56 So I don't think I've, I don't think I scored more than 25 points before I got to college. You never, it's never about the individual. It's always you learn how to play very organized at a very young age. And you see that in the NBA too, that European players just know how to play with each other.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And then in college, it's all the sun you get there and it's like, okay, it's like this raw rom mentality, I have to kill you to get the spot. And I have to start and all these things that were very new for us, but which we needed to in order to get to them because it's America. Right. You have to get minutes at some point.
Starting point is 01:02:29 You have to show what you can do if you want to get to the end. You have to adjust it at mentality and take it on on your own because if you don't, they will test you in that first practice and if you can't take on that mentality. America has made you more selfish. I like that. That's a great way to summarize that. I was like, I'm already in school sports. Yeah, more competitive.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Yeah, that's a good way to put it. When you were growing up, was Dirk everything? Is he just a basketball god over in Germany? Yeah, you can say that. Yeah, basketball god for sure, but at the same time, I wanted to say this earlier, like we don't grow up in Europe with the pressure of needing to make to make the NBA, you know, kids here, they grow up all want to make the NFL the NBA, like that's all they care about when they play the sport, like we grow up, we want to play for our team in Berlin, like that's that's what we dream of when we When we grow up and then as we get older, maybe your prospect Now you start thinking about that, but it's never NBA or bus.
Starting point is 01:03:27 You know what I mean? So I think with Dirk, he's definitely a huge figure, a huge athlete in Germany, but because basketball is just not that popularity standpoint. It's not like a star would be here or sports in general, honestly, aren't as much a part of society back home. So yeah. or sports in general, honestly, and as much a part of society back home. So. Yeah. So when did you guys realize like,
Starting point is 01:03:48 oh, we have goals that are bigger than just playing for our team in Berlin, like we're going to be in the NBA. What was that moment? And was it someone who pushed you there or a scout who was like, yo, you guys are really, really good? I will say that. I mean, I think that's, I don't know how France feels about that,
Starting point is 01:04:04 but that took me the most energy to come up with that mentality of F everything I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna believe in it Even though nobody here else talks about it, you know, and that's kind of that took me a lot of energy There was a click moment. I was like 15 years old. I really wanted to go to college because our parents went to school, went to university, and we wanted to kind of connect basketball and the school aspect of it. And then through that, I realized, okay, there's more that we can do. And then at some point, I wanted to go to college because I want to go to the MBA. So at a certain point, I just said, fuck this, I want to go to the league right and I'm going to do that
Starting point is 01:04:46 And I'm going to figure it out that wasn't really a plan B I was too crazy to have a plan B But it was also not arrogant enough to say I'm gonna make the league you kind of have that for yourself And that takes a lot of energy and a lot of belief and I'm Lucky worked out. Yeah, I'm gonna go on any other way any other way to the city. So why Michigan? What made you decide that Michigan was the right place for you to go from Jury?
Starting point is 01:05:09 Because if I grew up in Europe and I was thinking about the United States, I would probably think Los Angeles, Miami, Arizona, here is somewhere nice, maybe Hawaii, go play out there. Why Michigan? Well, next time tell them to offer me, you know? What should it not work? I love when you offer me, you know, what's that's not works. I love when you said that.
Starting point is 01:05:26 You sounded like a diehard, though. I had one offer and Coach B-line kind of believed in me. He said here, we want you to come to Michigan. It's cold, but it's a good school. They played very European. Obviously, Big Ten, super, super slow basketball, relatively. They played five out, which was good for me. There's a lot of, it's very skill oriented.
Starting point is 01:05:50 So I feel like that, that was a fit, and then it was either going to Michigan or stay at home, and I can't, I kind of just took the risk. And Franz, did you, was it Michigan or nothing else for you, or did you get offered other places? I got offered really, like I just, I didn't decide that I was actually going to Michigan until was like I want to say May or June or something like that. So really late that summer. So I got some offers really late because some of the guys left for the NBA at other schools. But it was more for me it was more between choosing Michigan or staying at home and signing a contract there.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And I was kind of waiting because B-Line had just left to go to the NBA and I was kind of waiting who was going to be a next coach. And once Jouan got the job, I really connected with him, I felt really comfortable. And I knew the school just to experience why, obviously I knew that from Mo that that was going to be fun. So yeah, I waited on that. So you brought up, Joanne, I didn't, but since you did bring up, Joanne, I went to Wisconsin. Yeah. Where's this headed, I go there?
Starting point is 01:06:51 What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, I mean, you're, what's your coach doing? He's smushing people's faces. Like that, you had to say like this is ridiculous. You guys call yourself Michigan men and you smush people in the face. I mean, he's sticking up for his team. I was going for a handshake.
Starting point is 01:07:07 You get to say about a handshake. So something had to happen. I'm sure I'm not saying I'm condoning any violence. I think we removed, I think we removed enough to say that that was awesome. Alright, I think I was great for the sport. I said right in the day, like I love rivalries. I love those moments. I think we're not getting a trouble if we say that.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. Obviously that was crazy. But at the same time, I was like, yeah, that's my God. That was a good Michigan man answer that you just gave. Yeah, you hate to see violence. Close the ranks. It's a good Italian. No, we can just say like that kicked ass.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Yeah. Did he practice that? Did he practice? He's like, listen guys, if we lose by like 30, I'll smush someone's face like that and here's how I don't know if you practice it, but that's you know, that's the type of coach you want to play for that and that stands up for your team and No really is part of the group. I think Dwanda dad while I was there and he's still doing that
Starting point is 01:07:57 Like I'm not condolending violence, but But it was funny. Yeah, we definitely won that fight too. No, yeah It was lost by 20 you got upset about a time out. It was crazy. So all right, so other question about Michigan not a great Thing for you mo that villain over game. Yeah, we were in there and we were there in the building I want to say this the nice way possible because obviously guys have an incredible run that entire run was insane To the finals. Yeah, but at what point in that game were you like, oh, we're fucked. Because we felt it like maybe five minutes in. We're like, oh, no, Phil and over is this good. Yeah. I mean, when you look at that roster, it's crazy. It's ridiculous. I mean, they have a
Starting point is 01:08:39 five NBA player, six NBA players to start an all NBA five. Like in college, that's so unique. The fact that we're even in the game within the first 10 minutes is pretty special. I mean, we had a pretty good team too. I have a hard time letting go of things in general, but that sometimes still haunts me, obviously because you don't get that close. Right. Well, it shouldn't haunt you.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You could play that game a hundred times. You'd have lost a hundred times. Yeah. I know. You're probably right. It's bad timing, but like it's not about that. You just like, you're just like, think, okay, what would have happened if you won that thing? Yeah. I mean, but um, it wasn't incredible. It wasn't incredible. It was incredible.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Was that the year the playing crash year? No, that was the year before. Okay. Which we won the big Ten Championship as well. Right. Thanks for bringing that up. That was good. No, that was awesome. I mean, I had an incredible couple of years at Michigan.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I'm super grateful for that time. Obviously, it's kind of weird feeling after a game like that because you kind of relief at the same time. Like, I remember, like, it was such a crazy couple of weeks that you just, you just happy it's over with almost and then you just got crushed by 20 yeah yeah so piss you going on campus and it's it's so nasty yeah we bet though nova in that game we know that was the easiest easiest one of all time we were we're not a different change of scores yeah that many points against you it's like okay there are what did you bet on the Florida Wisconsin game when she was a hit that? What do you care about that?
Starting point is 01:10:05 I think that's a valid question. You care about that. No, what did you bet on that? I think that's nothing. That was a mess for your garden, too. Yeah, we were there. We were there for it. Yeah, okay. I see it. That's fine. What do you think about Harbaugh? Love it. Yeah. We love Harbaugh. We love Harbaugh.
Starting point is 01:10:23 If you're against, I understand being against what Michigan's being accused of and if you're a rival school You probably hate Michigan's guts right now, but it's such a funny scandal. It's so funny. Yeah Can I ask the expression? Yeah, so you guys are Americans. We aren't back What do you think about like in an hour business in our sport? That's called scouting? Yeah, yeah So like what do you think about the whole thing? So the reason why you can't do it in college football is because not every school has the same athletics budget, right? So it wouldn't be fair if some teams could afford to send
Starting point is 01:10:54 five scouts to every away game when they weren't playing. OK. Where some smaller schools would not have the resources to be able to send people out to do that. So that's why the rules in place. But it seems like Connor Stallions didn't expense any of his trips. and he might have just done it man out of the good of his own heart Right to go on these trips. It's a big heart, which is I guess abiding by the spirit of the rule If not the letter of the law, but you're right. It is scouting. It's just trying to make it so and well every other team is gonna
Starting point is 01:11:19 Say that they don't do that right and I'm sure some teams do but they're saying Michigan's the only team that's doing it That's unfair here saying Michigan's the only team that's doing it that's unfair here here's the part so I think it's cheating in the fact that yes by the letter of law is cheating but the part that bothers me is all the big 10 teams complaining about it because that's like that's such an excuse you get you're getting your your teeth kicked in by them every you know for the last two years find a way to beat them like I hate the excuse thing that's the part that bothers me two years, find a way to beat him. Like, I hate the excuse thing. That's the part that bothers me. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Go find a way to beat him. Yeah. You guys, do you guys do that? Do you have a magic scout doing, I don't even think you could. I mean, we have like 20 scouts in the building and you just for living. Like, that's why I'm like so confused about it.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Like, we can call our place and the opposite team knows exactly what we're running. You still got to stop it. I've never played football. So I don't know how it works. And we've had this conversation a lot on the dinner table or in a lunch table lately within the team But like I guess it's different in football when you really know around or a play. It's easier to stop it. Yeah, boy I guess you I think it's ridiculous
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah, and the funniest thing is we we got the signs now So you can take the three games suspension, but we'll still know what Yeah, well he gets coached during the week. Yeah, but he asked to yes Just sit out on Saturdays. Yeah So speaking of scouting when was the first time someone came and scouted you guys in Germany? Did you notice right away? You're like, oh, there's that fat American sitting in a time of the Bahamas shirt I think I think you don't really notice as a player. Uh, I know for sure that at the fee botanum is I when you play for a national team,
Starting point is 01:12:50 when you're like under 16 under 18, that type of stuff, there's a lot of NBA scouts there. I know that now, but I wasn't really, yeah, aware at that point. That's probably better because I would definitely be like, there's a scout and then just have a terrible game. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I was way to, yeah, I know too. I was way too. No, I was not. What cool?
Starting point is 01:13:07 What you guys, you guys won not a Olympics. What, what did you guys win? You won the World Cup. The World Cup. People World Cup. You won the World Cup. Who'd you guys beat in the final? Was it a US?
Starting point is 01:13:16 Serbia. Oh, okay. US we'd be in the semifinal. Who's on the US team? Let's go through the team. A bunch of villain over guys. Apollo Ben Carol was on the team. Okay. Is he good? He's solid. All right. Sorry, we're not the Nathanae Edwards. So we didn't send our best not our best
Starting point is 01:13:36 and brightest. Do you really want to get a really good player? If we send if we send our our like first team, how much do we beat you guys by? We shall see in the whole week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you, I've heard you talk about having to guard Kevin Durant, and maybe kind of your welcome to the NBA moment. Oh, you heard that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I listened to it. I did some scouting. Yeah. I did some dumb shit. I would be honest with you in my first couple of years. I mean, I talk a lot, obviously, and I've kind of put that back a little bit. But one of the first times I matched up against Kevin Durant, and obviously, dude, I'm a huge NBA fan, right?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Like, I know all these guys from YouTube. I know all, I watched all these games at night. Fronson, I would get up at night and watch these players. So all of a sudden, I'm on the court with them, and obviously, my first year, I'm a little star-struck. And Kevin Durant guards me, and I think he's not taking me serious at all. So all of a sudden I'm on the court with them and obviously my first year I'm a little star struck and Kevin Durant guards me and I think he's not taking me serious at all. He doesn't even know where it was and I am like on a pick-up pop 3 and he fows me and I didn't realize it was him and like turned around and said yeah, you can't guard me
Starting point is 01:14:44 I have no credibility whatsoever at this point And it's Kevin Durant, I just talked to him, I had to. And at that point, it was the war, he was on the war, and it was him, Dremont Green, and Demarcus Cousins that were on the free throw line box out talking shit to me while I was shooting three free throws. Oh my god. And I'm telling you, I was so shook. Oh, because you're making them? I made one out of three.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I think there's a replay. You can see QuinCook on the sideline laughing this ass off, because those three guys were going at. Yeah, those are three of the worst guys to want to do. I set myself up for that, though. I deserve all of that. You can't guard me. You can't guard me.
Starting point is 01:15:24 You can't guard me. And I turned guard me. You can't guard me. And I turned around and I see Katie is like, what do you say? Oh, no. We're going to get back to Moan Franz in a second. They're brought to you by Pupperoni. Blake absolutely loves Pupperoni. It's his first football season. He's a terrible gambler, but he loves watching football
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Starting point is 01:16:25 Puparoni.com, find a bag near you. And now, here's more of the Wagner's. Yeah. Do you have any of those moments, Franz, where you're like, oh, this is different. Like the NBA is maybe not like, Boogie Cousins yelling at you on the free throw line, but some moment where you're like, okay,
Starting point is 01:16:43 this, I gotta focus a little more because this is definitely harder than it was in throw line, but some moment we're like, okay, I got to focus a little more because this is definitely harder than it was in college. I mean, I remember my first, I think it was our first preseason game. We're playing the Celtics and I was garden, Jason Taitam in the post and he like, did this quick spin move and I was still standing there as he was dunking the ball.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I didn't even notice that he like had left. That was like the one moment, I was like, yo, this is so much faster than one quicker. Kevin Durant, I tried to go to him as best as I could in an actual game then. I think you win 11 for 12 for 30 points. And it's just like, you try all your can, he's just like, it's a workout. On hard shots, it's not like layups. It's like insane shots. Yeah, you're playing what you think is like the best defensive Yeah, and against him and then there's nothing you can do about it. I just on that like he's just working out by himself That like that's how it feels. Yeah, do you guys do you guys live together? Yeah, what's that like?
Starting point is 01:17:39 It's fun. It's fun. Oh, yeah, we live in a house. It's probably a little too big for both of us, but It's awesome. We both have our you know private space most upstairs. I'm downstairs And yeah, we're kind of catching up on on some time that we kind of lost one moment to Michigan and later on in the NBA Do you guys have moments where you are like hanging out in the NBA and you're like remember when we used to wake up at like three in the Morning watch YouTube videos together like as, you know, teenagers? Cause that's gotta be kind of a whole, like, I think this, I think this all, all the time. Like even when we pull up to the United Center yesterday,
Starting point is 01:18:14 I'm like, this is so crazy. This is a big as arena. And people actually pay to watch us play. Mm hmm. But yeah, I mean, we talk about this all the time. And I've been in the league for four years without him. Obviously living by myself And it gets lonely real quick, you know you only get to play basketball so much a day
Starting point is 01:18:31 And then you have all the rest of the day in some city that you've never lived in Kind of to spend by yourself and having a roommate or kind of having that camaraderie is Just really cool. Yeah, I'm sure it and obviously saying out loud too that this is just really cool. You can share it and obviously saying out loud too that this is kind of cool what we are doing. Has so much value and reminds you of how grateful you should be to do this job. Yeah. Who's the hardest guy to guard at not name Kevin Dredd?
Starting point is 01:18:57 For both of you. I mean, there's players like you can't really guard. Like Dredd and Beat for example, is like one of those guys where you have to make it difficult for him. You kind of, before the game, you decide what you want to take away or what you want to challenge him in. The rest, you just kind of live with without admitting weakness here, but it's just the
Starting point is 01:19:20 skill set and it's just so incredible in this league that it's kind of like just make it as difficult as you can for him and then deliver the result. Yeah, because I remember I think JJ Redick said it on his podcast that like the misconception that guys in the NBA don't play defense is so off. It's that the guys in the NBA are so good at offense that it's there are certain people that you you can't do anything. You can try your best, but you can't right I mean we're trying all best Who's the toughest guy to play against like who's this who's the most tenacious defender that you've had to go up against
Starting point is 01:19:56 He gets like 28 shots a game so I'm like Hey, you fill it up What are you averaging this year? I don't know. Let's stay away from that. Oh, why not? You guys look in. Wait, you guys, you don't read like your box scores. You don't track your sets. We know I don't, I don't look at numbers. I don't. Franz averaging. Why, why wouldn't you know how much you're averaging? You're I think I think it's bad to like Why why wouldn't you know how much your averaging you're I think I think it's bad to like 18.3 point try to try to play a game and try to hit 18.3 points again You know, well it'd be tough to hit 18.3
Starting point is 01:20:32 Yeah, 18.8. You're going. I'm saying 18.5 and three. That's pretty damn good So yes, so who's the guy who when you have to match up against him? You're like this is gonna be Along not a long night, but it's gonna be harder than usual. I would say, I would say PJ Tucker, because he's really physical. Yeah. Kawai Leonard, we just played the Clippers. These arms are so long.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And he's so strong, like people don't realize it, like really can't move him. Like there's no point in even trying. Hey, do you guys think that zone defense is kind of coward defense? It is, right? You probably played in Europe a lot. As a offense, it means that they can't, that they're having a problem stopping you with a 515. Right. I think that's, I think they're almost admitting it. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like saying at the end of the day though, like if you win with a zone offense, you won. Yeah. So I don't care. at the end of the day though? Like if you win with a zone offense you won, right? I don't care. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like if it went with a zone defense you won too. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:21:30 Then sent us to score more points. That's true If you can't figure out a zone that always makes you look more foolish than the zone defense Yeah, right. Do you like playing zone defense like like being on defense. Yeah I would I would I would just get like, like, I would be standing there and just be like, oh wait, where am I supposed to stand? Yeah, that is actually a thing. Like, we spend 99% of our time in practice playing man defense. So then when we're in the game, sometimes we throw zone out there just to throw it off the
Starting point is 01:22:01 other team. We're definitely not as used to playing zone defense as we are in man. So there's it's just a it's just way difference. Not that it's more chill or you have to move less or anything like that. You have to actually like communicate a lot more because you know, you, you're not doing it as much. You know, to have a yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Yeah. Have you guys ever been in the zone? In the zone like in the zone shooting wise. Has it been a day game? What game? Do you remember it? Could you feel different when you were in the zone? You're like, this is just no matter what I throw up there, it's going in.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah. That's got a rough. It's an amazing feeling. I would imagine it's the best feeling in the world. I had it one time in college and ever since then it's been. How many years you score? I scored 22 points and a half. Which is a lot in college. Yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 01:22:46 and it felt so good. It was like it's just like you go into half times like what just happened is so much fun. Yeah. Awesome. What about you, Frons? I would say my my first world good game in the NBA. I wouldn't say I was in the zone the whole game, but I had a stretch in the fourth. Yeah, well, it's just that perfect mix of like relaxation focus like you're just in that in that perfect mind spot. And yeah, like you said, everything you thrown up there is feels like it's going in. Yeah, it would be so good. I would just hope that the game would never end. Right. Let's keep playing something something good. I would also try to recreate everything I did that day, like the next summer play through the same like breakfast, lunch, same routine.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Don't change a single thing where the same underwear. So Patrick Holmes does, you know. He wears the same underwear after the game. He says he doesn't. He says nasty. Yeah. How many games are they a year? 17, 18, 17 now.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah, 17 games. So you know watching all of your seven games. Yeah. You guys have an NFL team you were for?. Yeah, you guys have a NFL team you were for. Have we what? You have a NFL team you were for? We're we're for the Finns. The Finns up. Okay. Jacob. Yeah, there we go. Remaranger. Yeah. What what about when were you guys kids when they started putting NFL games in Germany? Yes. Did you go?
Starting point is 01:24:01 We're tell us your perspective. No, oh, not on TV, but like the actual game. Okay, no, I never went to an actual game. Okay. I know, but I think like a couple of years ago, I don't know exactly how long, but they would like put out the Sunday games, which is like prime time back home, right? So they would show two of those at home.
Starting point is 01:24:22 And that was like, that's like, that's like my memory of mine, like doing my homework, watching the game with my dad. And there's actually a really big following. That's what I have games there now. That's the best sport in the world. Yeah. Did you ever think about playing American football?
Starting point is 01:24:34 No. You'd be tight-ends. You'd be great tight-ends. No, I would, one block, and you'd be. One quarter. Yeah, I said. Did you guys play soccer growing up? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. So because I was gonna say, like there probably was a moment where, like all the soccer players, like you're gonna really waste your time with this basketball thing. And now you can laugh at them and be like, that wasn't a waste of looking us. Yeah, I mean, I played at the same time for two years.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I always say that I would be a really good soccer player. My brother doesn't really believe me, but I had a lot, at a great time playing soccer. It was really cool. Which however he's got a history of very tall soccer players, and pretty good. Not that. It's 11 of the soccer pitches. And it's very tall.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And these guys are so fast. Like, if like the defenders, most of the times are the tallest ones, right? Right. Like they go up against like messy and all these guys. Like, these guys are so fast. No shot. He was a in like one or one. Who's your team Elijah one was it? He was a goalkeeper for the Nigerian national team.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Was it? Yeah. But it's it seems weird because he's so far from the ground. So you just shoot low on him. Yeah. And it goes in. But yeah, he was a really good soccer player for a while. Who's what team do you guys root for in soccer?
Starting point is 01:25:42 Fire. I'm a big bad up. That up. I don't know if that says anything is that first league is the first league It's a bonus league exactly. It's a team in the North You guys suck sounds like you suck the way I'm saying healthy mid-aute Sounds like you suck like the bears in the info. Oh, well no Field we're the, we're not healthy midfield. We're the worst. We're always the worst.
Starting point is 01:26:07 No, no, that's fair. That's a fair shot. We know that. I like it. I like those. What's the one thing that people fans get wrong about the NBA? Like they don't understand it. Like the one thing, whether it be how tough the grind is,
Starting point is 01:26:20 or like I was saying about how everyone's good at offense, and that's not means that you're not trying out defense. What's the thing that like you could correct if you know you hear a fan criticism and you're like that's not exactly how it works. I have one thing that comes to my right right. Don't DM me about your bets. I don't get it deleted. Okay. But what if you had a parlay and you just need to get one more fucking rebound. Yeah. Yeah, that's I mean I understand that but that's your fall for bedding
Starting point is 01:26:47 I really don't give a rat's ass about your bet. That's fair response That's the one thing that I'm not here for your bets. Okay. I actually like getting out of hand It's like 1015 people at a time like every game and they go crazy Yeah, personal they all these guys sound nuts. Yeah, the worst. So that's you don't have any that works here. Never do. DM. No, it's fun though. Obviously, I'm not, I'm not against that, but just don't damn me. Yeah, that's fair. Well, you could also just not look at the DMs. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. So maybe it's not you. Yeah, it's not. yeah, what are you looking for in your DMs, Mo? I mean, depends on the city.
Starting point is 01:27:29 All right, so I had one last question. It's a rowback question, rhobac.com. Use promo code take, uh, Q's, it's polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code take 20% off the first purchase. Since we did talk a little big 10, what's the toughest place to play in the big 10? I will say Michigan state or Ohio State. Okay. Yeah, pretty They have the big student section. They obviously go crazy for the Michigan game. Yeah, big rivalry It's always always a special special time. Yeah, what about you? Dark horse Purdue. Oh, it was good
Starting point is 01:28:01 Yeah, Purdue. It's also like so dark in there like the fans are all like wearing black Yeah, and it's like they on top of you almost like the student sections on top of the bench almost it feels weird I gave you guys an opening there to say cold center because of the refs always call the games differently You know what's funny about that arena? It's like a lot of like because Madison is such a cool like normal city Where people like that aren't students live too. They're quiet for like 35 minutes. And the student section is in the end,
Starting point is 01:28:31 like they should put it behind the bench. Yeah, I agree. But they go on a run and then all of a sudden that place is live, it's insane. It could be quiet for 35 minutes and then they go on one little run and call center school. I think it's because they drink so much
Starting point is 01:28:44 before the games, they don't get until like midway through the second quarter. Yeah, and they're hard to cheer when you're a bellied full of cheese cards. Yeah, good answer though with Michigan state because I feel like Michigan State is a very hard place to play at any team that goes in there and wins a game. Shoot. They have to be an elite basketball. They've already lost a couple games this year. Oh, they did they lose it. Who? I don't know. I'm not a big college college. Look it look it up look it up I think they lost that first game at home. It must say they lost their first game at home non-conference Not is no way that's no look it up look it up. Okay, I'm gonna talk about Tom iso at Michigan state. Yeah, I don't want I mean yeah, they lost to James Madison. Oh shit Do you want to want to win to James Madison? I got a helmet up here. That's crazy though that
Starting point is 01:29:21 It is It was over time, but okay, it doesn't matter so much Still counts. No, but I agree with you go in Michigan state like you you were a legit threat to win the national championship If you can win a game there. Yeah, yeah, and they they show up early for the game like in warm-ups. They talking shit to you They know shit about you, too. Yeah, show me What's the most personal somebody's gotten in the crowd? Oh Actually, don't say that because then other people will say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, safe off camera So I'll do yeah, I'll do I'll pivot to different last question when you guys were growing up
Starting point is 01:29:55 Would you would you guys just beat the shit out of the neighbors? Like how how intimidating was your was your family like we got to tallest, most athletic people in our city that live in the same house. Like would you play basketball against or just don't con him all the time? We only should have done that. Yeah, we'll start on that. I mean, not very violent people.
Starting point is 01:30:15 It's kind of soft. Very tall, personalized. Yeah. Yeah, no fighters. We would fight each other. Yeah. Yeah, me and Mo. That, but that's about it.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Who wins? Well, I had a legit advantage being five years older, four and a half years older. So there's a physical advantage there. Ever since that's even, we have a fault, just because we adults now. Well, it's the last time you guys wrestled. You can't tell me there hasn't been one time when you're living in the big house.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Too much room. No, no, we were like tussle a little wrestle. Because the rest of the way hypothetically if you were to wrestle who wins right now. What? My grappling is pretty good. I'm a big UFC five. I like you. CSI think I have an adventure.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Were you nervous? that Franz was going to get taller than you? No, but I will say there's, I mean, being a big brother I think everybody can relate to that. There is a point where you're like, you play in one-on-one the entire life. And then there's the age where at some
Starting point is 01:31:19 point he like pulls out a move and you like glow key like realize, okay, like one more month and I cannot guard this. That's when I stop playing. Yeah. You had to feel awesome. When you had that move. I didn't know. I didn't let the thing. I never got to like actual.
Starting point is 01:31:39 But you knew. You knew what he stopped playing was like I don't want to play anymore. Like I'll say you kind like X he got by me You're probably like where'd you learn that from because I never showed that right? What's this? Yeah figure something out here. That's great. All right. Well, thank you guys Awesome time having you in studio anytime your Chicago. We love you have have you stopped by sure you can shoot on our 10 foot two inch rims Which are the stupidest rims? Yeah, how do you miss that? I don't know that we have the tallest basketball rims in the world
Starting point is 01:32:09 No one has ever made a basketball rim over 10 feet That's crazy feels like kind of like I think we're getting pranked I think it's it's the guy that built this office Hank just being like hey no dunking Yeah, because we'd all be able to dunk if it was 10 right We can't obviously well, thank you guys best of dunk if it was 10. Oh, right. We can't dunk. Obviously. Well, thank you guys, Pesla Lockwreston, season. Appreciate you guys.
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Starting point is 01:33:44 It's got a fucking rock. So we got chiefs bills. We got Eagles Cowboys. Those cowboys, which I think Max, you were exempt from streaming. I think New York's going to stream it with Smitty. So you're happy. Will maybe watch the second half while we're taping the show. Yeah, well, of course, it'd be better for the people at home.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Yeah, I mean, whatever. It doesn't matter. Yeah, we can watch you React as it's happening maybe make a PM TV. Yeah, maybe make a PM TV out of it. Um Yeah, we have that chief spills Cal boys Eagles. We have Rams Ravens, which is gonna be a great game Seahawks Niners, right double Monday night. Yeah Colts bangles low key. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right double Monday night game Don't be caught off guard. There are two Monday night games this week for what reason? I don't know. But they're going to kick off at the exact same time. It's actually a good strategy because they're both games
Starting point is 01:34:33 that like aren't great. They're bad games. Yeah. I think it's all funs playing one of them, but still you can just flip to the one that has a better game. Or have two TVs. All right. Hank, think he's whenever you all decide to hang up the mic Are you all gonna do a Kobe retirement tour or tell us all of a sudden like Brady? I think we're never tired of nightmares of this hypothetical way when Brady retired he retired and then he came back though Remember true We so we talked about this with cam and Brandon Marshall about doing a tour I've always thought in my head that like when we do
Starting point is 01:35:05 end up hanging up the cleats, we're gonna do like a sell out like Aerosmith when they're like 75 tour. Or we're just gonna be like, yeah, we're gonna make like $20 million being washed up podcasters doing like one final tour. We can do the kiss version of that, which is you do that tour.
Starting point is 01:35:20 You do that tour. You do that tour like five times in a row, where you're like this is the retirement tour. Yeah. Then you come back retire again, then you come back retire again. What if we did one final tour and it was the drugs only tour?
Starting point is 01:35:31 We died at the last episode. We were just like every, like, man these guys are, they gotta get off the road. Yeah. It's, it's killing them. I mean, AI is gonna take over for this podcast eventually. Yeah, no, I don't think we would do a, that would be crazy if we just did a,
Starting point is 01:35:46 all right, and that's the last episode. I don't think we'd do that. I think it would be a much more calculated landing the plane. But that's not a problem, let's think about right now. Although we're going on year eight, it's crazy. You're into a decade, it's like, whoo, hot years, that's, that's 50 years.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Yeah, we don't know what podcast is called podcast cigarettes. Also, this is about to be a leap year. So it's gonna be the actual anniversary. Yes, it's 29th. Yes, you're two. It's your second year, yeah. No, podcast, it's like cigarettes in the 50s.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Like everyone did them. Yeah, and they didn't know what the effect was. So in like 20 years, everyone that has a podcast, they're gonna have like, like they podcast it every day. Yeah, they're gonna have like a brain tumor. Yeah, hunched over, can't hear, fat, and we'll like, Bob Lee will come back and be like, these podcasters put their life so long. I would not let my son be a podcaster. Nope. No. I'd let him be a TikTok star.
Starting point is 01:36:39 That's an important thing. Get him started early. Mims wrote the, or Mims sent these questions, but this one says, Hey, P.M.T.s, you want to ask what your thoughts were on Hanky Hazard's beating P.F.D. in the money money match. Oh, interesting. I don't know what else we can expect. I was a witness. Yeah, Jake, nobody won.
Starting point is 01:36:55 No one won. It was a tie. I won the match. We doubled or nothing though, right? We tied zero, zero. And then you went to double or nothing. Then we went double or nothing. One that, no, triple triple or nothing and you lost that lost that oh so you didn't so no one won so I owed Hank zero dollars and Hank
Starting point is 01:37:11 owed me zero dollars so no one won no one won the match it was a good matchup it was how bad did you win it or how much you win it six holes yeah Hank won it by a considerable amount Hank does spend all his time on that simulator he does and he knew how to put I didn't know how to put until like the last five holes when Jake had to step in and show me how to aim on this simulator, which Hank knew because he plays it all the time. Also, Hank selected the golf course, which was very very suited. I had you just said, Hey, do you want to play this course? Shout out, Dan Earl. He played it. Yes. So yeah, Hank, Hank had a course of his choosing. It was a home field advantage form and we tied. Every Sunday we come into watch football and Hank bets some crazy hungry dog parlay and watches one quarter and sees his team suck and then just goes to simulator.
Starting point is 01:37:52 I can't express how bad my gambling has been this year like losing. It's it's it's and you used to be good. Yeah, you said fun and now it's it's like I'm the seasons over. Yeah, I keep being like, well, maybe I'll have a good week and get back into it. Yeah, and then I don't and then it just gets worse. You should just ride. You should just ride the Grimlin over three and a half fuel go bet. It's the only bet that's kept me afloat the last like three years.
Starting point is 01:38:21 I need like a 15 legged. Okay, see that's your problem. Like this, this is a money maker. I don't know why more people don't bet it. It makes money for me. I suck at gambling besides that. And that's, that's really made. You should just bet the Niners against Eagles like I did.
Starting point is 01:38:36 I bet the Eagles. Oh, no. Big cap PFT, honk, loser, max, Jake and memes. What is one game or sports moment that happened before the PMT was founded that you wish you guys could have reacted or covered on the pod? Mouse that's pal. Also I ride with Hank,
Starting point is 01:38:53 Burm Believer in the lighthouse. Mouse that the palace is the answer, it would have been incredible. Mouse the palace is the answer. Yeah. Because it also would be like, you can't pick like specific to our own teams because then it's, you know, like something that is like a national that that in man
Starting point is 01:39:08 Taipei would have been awesome. It would have been crazy for me. Anti-taway would have been tiger woods would have been awesome. Yeah, the Thanksgiving. Yes. That would have been incredible. And the text that got leaked after all. Yes.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Yes. We would have done dramatic readings of those. But I think mouse and the palace if we we had recorded right after mouse and the palace would have been incredible. Cubs guy. You're talking about Bartmins, Steve Bartmins. Yeah, no, I'm saying that taking out specific things to each ourselves. But aside from you, just like you did, that would be a show thing.
Starting point is 01:39:38 That would have been good. Yes. Phil and Ova, buzzer beater. Yeah, I mean, that, well, we were doing the pod then. Yeah, it was like a month in, it was 2016, April of 2016. Yeah. Yeah. There's some good ones though.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Now except the Palace would have been just all time. All time. So many. Linsanity would have been fun. We would have, we would have thought, Linsanley would have lasted forever. We would have been very wrong Lebron's first title would have been tough for you guys. Oh, I wouldn't have pot it out of love that I wouldn't have pot it You mean to win weights first title. Yeah, yeah, I was there's a second title All right Hank what else 18 and one for Hank would have been oh my god. Oh, that would have been the best. Oh my god
Starting point is 01:40:22 Oh, man. Oh my god. Oh My god Oh, that would've been the best. Oh my god. Oh Man, oh my god. Oh My god I don't know what about what about Aaron Boone. No, what about fucking Eagles Patriots first Super World would have been great That would have been awesome too. Yeah, that would have been awesome or Even the second one because Max was on the show yet That might be the answer and the Philly especially you would have been so mad at mad That would have been insane. Holy fuck. I think that might be the answer and the Philly special you would have been so mad at Matt about it. It's holy fuck. I think that might be the number one answer. All right. Last one. Big fan. I appreciate all the content you guys bring us
Starting point is 01:40:52 AWLs. I would love to know the most holy shit moment when the podcast was first starting. You realize this is bigger than we ever thought it could be. Whether it was guests you were able to get on or even a single notable person that told you they're a listener. Whatever it is, thanks again for all you guys do. PFT rooting for you and surviving bar stool. If you come at the king, you best not miss. Yeah, we're all rooting for PFT. Yeah, it was fun.
Starting point is 01:41:13 It was fun. I actually, so I don't know what the first holy shit moment. I always go back to like Joe Buck or Scott Van Pelt. I think going to Bristol and getting to interview Scott Van Pelt because we obviously were friends of them, but like that was a big one. I have them all the time though, like so I can tell the story now. When we did surviving bar stool, everyone go buy it, not really a spoiler, I was eliminated in four hours. So I went to stay at a hotel all week, and at the hotel, the Celtics were staying at
Starting point is 01:41:42 the hotel, and I was in an elevator with Derek White and I felt like such a loser because I was like, I recognize him and I was like, yeah, like, oh, you guys got a game and it was like, yeah, I have a podcast and my producer was like a huge Celtics fan and he was just like, yeah, I listen to your podcast all the time. I was like, fuck you, dude.
Starting point is 01:42:02 That's fucking awesome. So he's gonna come on the show. But those moments like whenever an athlete says they listen, it still kind of blows me away. For me it was first Super Bowl that we covered. I was in Houston, right? Houston Super Bowl. At the Borestal Party, Guy Fieri was there.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Yeah. And Guy Fieri was like, hey man, I love part of my take. And I was like, that is, that is pretty cool. That's pretty fucking cool. Like I can just die right now. God, God knows who I am. Yeah. What do I you think? I have them all the time.
Starting point is 01:42:30 I mean, any athlete, like it's different for you guys because you're the host, but any athlete that recognizes me or like, you know, I go to introduce myself and I go, what's up, Hank? And I'm just like, that's the thing. Yeah, like when an athlete knows us, it doesn't go away. That part does not go away where I'm just still like, what the fuck? Especially now with the, some of the like, even like the will not go away where I'm just still like, what the fuck? Especially now with some of the like,
Starting point is 01:42:45 even like the Will Levis is of the world who are like, they've been listening since they were in high school. Oh, Will Levis told us when we went to dinner with him in Kentucky during the Breeders Cup. It was like me, Dave, Jerry, Elio, and he was like, yeah, I was playing Gisette S, but I was like 13.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Yeah, so the thing was like cool. The people that have kind of come up, even like, cause Jared was a fan of Barcel when the podcast first first started, which was kind of crazy, cause he just got drafts number one, and was like hitting you up, being like, you know, like come out and stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Yeah, come party, yeah. Fuck, you just got draft number one, and you won the hangover. He's been in the NFL for like eight years, yeah. But that was, he was more just a fan of Barcel, but there's now people that are fans of the podcast that are like coming up and pros and stuff. And it's like, holy shit, we've been doing this for a while. It is one of the podcast that are like coming up and pros and stuff and it's like holy shit
Starting point is 01:43:25 We've been doing this for a while. It is one of those things that I I'm happy that we haven't gotten jaded in this respect Because it really does like it still does it still is the coolest thing ever whenever like Someone who plays sports or manages or whatever coaches is like oh, hey, I'm a fan of you. I'm like really? For me was fucking crazy people listen I always I'm a fan of you. I'm like, really? For me, it was, uh. This is fucking cool. Crazy people, listen, I was, I still tell my, I just assume people don't listen. Yeah, I know, right? It's the weirdest thing. I get to fuck with your head.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Right, some of the Spotify wrap numbers and stuff you see. Yeah, I'm like, oh, fuck, people like to hang with us. And it's awesome. I mean, when we saw, when we saw our golf head cover on Charlie Wood's bag, that was a big moment for me. Yeah, that was like, but it's good though, because it really would suck if we got to a point where we're like, if like an athlete,
Starting point is 01:44:08 like if Derek White was like, yeah, I listen, I'd be like, of course he does. Like that would suck. Yeah, Derek White. I mean, can I get a picture? Yeah, be like, now I'm hanging up. Like, you can't get excited about this. Like, I was legitimately excited.
Starting point is 01:44:18 I told you right away. So I could start Derek White. He listens. Which is crazy. I'm like, I'm not Derek White. Another holy shit moment. That might have been Blake.
Starting point is 01:44:26 First couple months of Blake was a, the podcast that we had with Marlon's Man and Falball guy. Oh, Marlon's Man. Getting both those guys on the show at the same time. Yeah. I mean, that is, it was, I knew we had something special. Marlon's Man texted me, let's see. I went to, here we go.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Phone call the day after. Still listening to this. Marlon's Man texted me, let's see. Oh, here we go. Phone call the day after. Still in the SP. Marlon's been texting me. This is pretty, you gotta listen to this. And he was like, he was saying he's gonna sue me. This is threatening me. Also, when I hung out with Marlon's man and he took me up to like his condo in Miami
Starting point is 01:44:59 and then pointed out at all the different properties that he owned along the beach. And I didn't know if I was gonna leave that hotel room or not. Yeah. We're about like 15 minutes. That's cool. That was pretty cool. Marlon's Van Text me, this is pretty breaking news. We can cut this if we don't want to put it in Max and memes.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Marlon's Van Text me, although Dolphins 9 and 3, all three losses against teams with winning records. And I think all nine wins against teams with losing were 500 records, FYI. Okay. Yeah. We should cut that. Pretty big stat. Yeah, we should probably cut that. I don't know if anyone else knows that. I like getting that random text from us. But I'm sure that was a graphic on the TV when they were playing on Sunday. It was. Cowboys that weird one where Mike McDonald was like jumping over like hurdles. Don't the Cowboys have a pretty similar stat
Starting point is 01:45:45 Yeah, yeah, they need to they need to beat someone I mean they beat the Seahawks. Yeah, okay good show boys Tune into the 24-hour stream starting at nine o'clock Central you sure you don't want to go to eat part of my take YouTube when go eight and twitch. Let's go eight No max and no okay nine o'clock Okay numbers I get this three 1771 one switch positive I get this Poked 27 eight Pft you already said we'll split 12 hours all right. Oh, and I'll match no I'll do 12
Starting point is 01:46:19 I'll do 12. No, it's just for Hank 27 if Hank gets it Pft and I will both do 12 hours and Hank is out 17 Wow come on actually 40 40 40 I'm gonna take 17 yeah, I have seven one of you guys get it Fuck up no, it doesn't I gotta be shut up 40 3 71 What is your guess meat max and she
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