Pardon My Take - Packers Fullback Danny Vitale + John Kuhn, Mike Florio on Helmetgate, And Mount Rushmore Of Colors

Episode Date: August 19, 2019

We survived the last weekend without meaningful Football. Eli Manning has a job for life (2:27 - 10:19). Who's back of the week including Big Cat's twitter meltdown (10:19 - 24:02). Mt Rushmore of colors (24:02 - 34:56). Packers fullback Danny Vitale and former fullback John Kuhn join the show to talk about Football, Meathead life, biggest hit they've ever taken, and why Fullbacks are the smartest players (34:56 - 57:10). Mike Florio joins the show to talk about Helmetgate and where the Raiders go from here. Peter King ate the trash, Kings stay Kings Marlins Man and Lenny Dykstra, Hurt or Injured Redskins entire medical staff, We read a headline, and a WILD Monday Reading. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have fullbacks Danny Vitale, and no, it's Danny Vitale. Vitale, Dick Vitale actually says it wrong, and John Coon, full on meathead, love talking to both those guys. We talked about their biggest hits, how much they squat, how much they bench. We also have Mike Florio on to talk about Helmet Gate, and Mount Rushmore of Colors.

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Use code BARSTULE. You get $5 for free, $5 to ASPCA. Today is Monday, August 19th, and you've done it. We have officially had the last weekend of 2019 without football. Real football. Each week zero in college football, which is such, it's so great, well, they said that what, like societies took 4,000 years after inventing math to figure out the number zero. It took us like 30 years of bowl championship subdivision football to realize that we could

do a week zero. Hey, just throw a random game. And they're usually played like on an aircraft carrier somewhere. Do it. I'm very excited because this means that we have real football to bet on this. And we have real football, and we were talking about before the show, but this is the longest college football in history. It starts next Saturday and it goes all the way till January 13th.

That's great. That means that we are slowly, you know, a lot of people say society's getting in a worse place. This whole earth is going to blow up all this shit. Eventually we're going to get to a football season that just goes the entire calendar year and I'm here for, well, that's kind of the goal with the XFL, right? So, yeah, that's coming up. So when people say that we're not going to have football in 25 weeks, guess what?

You're wrong. A little something called the XFL is going to tie this over. And the AAF is coming back, probably not. So yeah, no, it's the start. It's like, you know, the egg is hatching. You talk about the football sandwich. I'm here to talk to you about the little dinosaur from Jurassic Park popping his head out of the egg after his parents switched sexes and saying, hello, it's me, it's 2019 and I'm

here to stay. Hello, it's Danny Boy Kane and we're ready for the Gators versus the Hurricanes in South Florida. I don't even know where they're. North Florida. So North Florida. Yeah. The battle for the state of Florida.

Panhandle. Yeah. Kind of a fear of victory if you want to. That UCF has won every year. Yes. The last like three years. Well, UCF national champions. Correct.

Only team from Florida. Always that banner. All right. So the other thing we had going on, it was obviously preseason football every single day, which I wish they did that. I wish the NFL just dropped random games for us on a Friday night because it really was, even though no one cares about preseason football and you shouldn't, it was nice to just be scrolling.

Oh, shit. Swag Kelly in the middle of Saturday afternoon. Why not? Yeah. Let's do it. What's great about these games is most of the quarterbacks that play the majority of these games are already from Mac schools. So they're used to playing on Tuesdays or Wednesday nights.

Yes. And so they'd fit right in with that. I was saying that it's one of the best times of the year because we're entering quarterback controversy season. And this year we've got the most boring quarterback controversies of all time, perhaps ever in the history of the NFL that are starting to bubble up right now because we've got the Titans. We've got Marcus Mariota and we've got Ryan Tannehill and that sound you heard was everybody

just closing out this podcast because they're already super bored talking about the Titans. We've got the Dolphins who got rid of Tannehill and now they've got Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen and another one that nobody cares about. And we've got Swag Kelly coming to take Andrew Lux job. Chico. We were sets job. Yeah. And you forgot about the most important one that actually has already been decided.

Eli Manning and Daniel Jones, which Pat Schermer. He had a press conference. Yeah. He said something like Eli is our quarterback because John Marra is the owner or something. I don't even understand it. But Eli you're getting a whole lot of Eli this year. So basically Pat Schermer was doing the thing where he's he's giving a news conference and he's blinking in Morse code saying like help I'm taking hostage, send in the SWAT team.

You're making me start Eli Manning this entire year. And I want to start Daniel Jones. Here's the quote. So Pat. So John Marra said that in a perfect world, Eli Manning would play 16 games. Totally agree with you there, John Marra. We need Eli Manning playing 16 games. I would say actually 19 games.

Yeah. Super Bowl. So Pat Schermer said John owns the team. I've said the same things, but sometimes you guys don't believe me, but we're on the same page. We don't believe you because Eli Manning is not a starting quarterback anymore. But he is. But he is.

And please, when you refer to the Maras, Mr. Marra, Mr. Marra has issued the edict on high that Eli Manning is going to start every fucking game. And you're if you don't like it and go out back and we're going to make you smoke a whole pack of Eli Manning's. We have Helmut Gate, which we'll get to with Mike Florio, but holy shit, Antonio Brown way to just own the entire training camp storyline for everything. And the riot is back on because there has been a lot that's gone on and we have hard knocks on Tuesday night, but send out that Google alert.

Okay, hang on. That calendar also. Invite me to that riot because we will riot again. If you ready for it, Hank, what's this for the calendar invite? You're not. I just got over the last one. Okay. You're not ready for the riot, though.

You can say maybe because this right if you thought last riot was a bloodbath, you ain't see nothing yet. Damn. I might put on my helmet. I might. I might wear like a scarf so that if I get caught on camera flipping over a water bottle, the cops can't find me. Exactly.

Like they're doing and what are they doing in Hong Kong? They're like shining lasers into cameras. Actually, I have a question for you, PFT, and this has nothing to do with sports, but those riots in Portland, the Antifa versus Proud Boys. Yeah. Do they just walk around like it seems like there's more journalists than rioters. That's basically, yeah, it's a bunch of people on cameras. So I was in.

I watched the video. I was like, wait, all these guys are just journalists. And then there's three guys just having a little bit of a scuffle. Like someone walked in the bike lane. Yeah. And even the journalists are on sides there. So they're like following specific people around, hoping to find somebody messing with that person.

Right. So you can tweet out video. As somebody that was up in Detroit covering the politics in America, like boots on the ground, I saw a little bit of the Proud Boys up there and they are looking for a fight. They just disavow by the way. Disavow Proud Boys. Fuck the Proud Boys. Disavowing the Proud Boys officially.

But yeah, so there we're going to take some cues from that whole situation. Maybe we'll, I don't know, we'll pepper spray the room. How does that sound? It seems like if no one showed up with a camera, no one would show up to like push each other in the streets. Oh, it's for the clout. It's for sure. And I think they send each other calendar invites to it's like, hey, just so you know,

the Proud Boys are going to be here at this time. We're going to ride a fight. Yeah. But we're actually going to talk about the riot more than we ride. Well, we're going to tweet about the riot more than anything. So, so I don't understand any of that. Yeah. That's stupid.

All right. So, and then the only other story, we got to give MLB some credit. We do go after Major League Baseball for being very stupid, but the Williamsport game every year is awesome and they have all the kids. And yes, it is bullshit that all these little league world series kids high five each other when like someone hits a home run off of them. Those clips are just insane, but they do this right. And I wish they played on a actual little league dimension field, but you know, beggars

bats. Yeah. Kids. You're right. Yeah. And I was like, well, that's just went deep and I was like, what the fuck is going on? Kids pitching. Paxson Lynch has sent a lot of people into puberty and administration and ovulation.

Kids pitching Major League Baseball players hitting. Yes. And just have it be. I agree. Who says no. Probably the kids. Yeah. Probably kids.

Parents. The kids dads just get overprotected. Yeah. Helicopter coaches. Yeah. Helicopter parents don't want their son to get a face full of baseball and lose all their teeth. But you know what?

That's what that's what we want to tune in to see. Yes. I agree. People want it. All right. Should we do? Let's do some who's back and let's get to our Mount Rushmore. Let's move it along.

We have, by the way, we have Danny Vitale and John Kuhn coming up. If you want to watch it, barstoolgold.com slash PMT. We were up in Green Bay. We interviewed Matt before. You can also watch that on barstoolgoldbarstoolgold.com slash PMT sign up right now. All right. Hank, go. Who's back?

I have a few. The first one is Josh Gordon. Okay. Yeah. You guys didn't talk about that in stores. These fans were current Super Bowl champions. They got their best receiver back. So it's exciting.

Yeah. I mean, maybe they'll give you a score. Kind of a story. More than 13 points. How many weeks? How many weeks? He's zero. He's spent for zero weeks.

You know how many weeks will he be on the team? All of them. You think? All every week. And if he doesn't, you get a cat. But he's not on the team right now, right? How many weeks? How many weeks left?

22? No, he's as of Sunday. He can practice. He's not. He's on the non-football list. So what happens if he doesn't make it through the whole season? Non-injury related. Non-injury, that's fine.

But if he gets cut or leaves or anything like that, Hank gets cat. Nope. Yep. I don't know. I'll do something. I'm not going to get a cat. How about over. We'll be nice to you.

Over on there. But what if he plays the whole year? You guys have to do something. How about that video that went viral where the guy had the leaf blower with a huge bowl of weed and just like hot box the whole room? You have to do that in the studio by yourself. All right. And if he plays the whole year, you guys have to do that.

No, he looked terrible. He basically died from smoking. Josh Gordon will probably come here and help you out with that. And if you guys, if you make it through the, if you make it to the playoffs, you guys have to do that. And same thing. Okay. Deal.

Yeah. If he makes it to the playoffs and he plays every single game, then I'll get super high. Yeah. Deal. Makes it to the playoffs. Non-injury related, obviously. Oh man.

I hope he doesn't make it to the playoffs. No, this leaf blower thing, that definitely looked like a bunch of stoners died because they didn't realize, oh, smoke is, you actually still can't just inhale way too much smoke. So this is, so the Patriots are admitting that their, their experiment of just turning every quarterback that they have into wide receivers is not going to work out. Yeah. They cut Edlin. Yeah.

It's too bad. So I liked him. All right. Who else? My other who's back is big cat lashing out at producers over at Betsy lost. Yeah. So on Twitter over the weekend, actually you should, you should tell it big cat. Well, I, I don't think I lashed out.

I don't, I think I stated facts. So it's, he was, there was a, I mean, what was it, five, five tweet thread? Yeah. That, that probably could have been 10. I mean, do you think that I was in the wrong for what happened? So Stephen Chey, who produces the yak, the serious radio show that I host, was down in Tampa Bay all week for his make a wish. And he was, he was basically getting, did you guys see, he did a Jersey swap too.

Yeah. That was great. He's literally a kid, but it's a polo shirt. I actually sent Jason light, the GM of the bucks, a DM saying thanks for taking care of Stephen Chey all week. Just letting him know that like Stephen Chey, we appreciate you taking him off our hands for weeks. So anyway, Stephen Chey, the game was a three three in the end of the second quarter.

I had bet the over Stephen Chey texted me and said, Oh dude, I forgot to tell you hot tip. They didn't put the tarp out for like some security guard told me they didn't put the tarp out, which they usually do. The field was absolutely soaked and they were raking water off. He texted me this three three and I'd already bet the over. So he's like, yeah, the under will probably hit. Thanks Stephen Chey.

And then he said, look into the second half under, which I did, which also lost. So an O and two instead of one and O. And yeah, if you send a hot tip two hours after a game starts, you deserve a five tweet thread and more. And guess what? Stephen Chey, he's going to bring me lunch tomorrow, but he said I had to give back the Tupperware and I said, fuck that I'm throwing it out. I think that's fair. Totally fair.

I've been on tilt since that moment. I've lost every bet all weekend because of that one fucking game. If he fucks you over with the plastic covering, then you have the absolute right to fuck him over on his plastic. The psyche of a degenerate gambler is a very fragile thing. It just, it is always teetering on absolute destruction and he just tipped over the whole apple cart and I didn't sleep all Friday night. I feel like shit right now.

I lost every bet all weekend, all because of Stephen Chey. So yeah, you know what Hank? He probably deserve more tweets. But the worst part is your confidence is shot now. Totally shot. I don't see anything. You got to, yeah. If you go into the season thinking like this, you're done to me.

No, I'm already done. Listen, I'm already done for life, but this is the thing like you can't, you can't do that to somebody. You can't hot tip a guy two hours later. A hot tip. I'll always take a hot tip. Yeah, you will. I know.

That's like when, remember that hot tip you took a couple of weeks ago? What was it? Just somebody tweeted at me like the, the Padres. I walked to the Padres today and I was like hot tip. I walked in the office and, and we, you know, our seat where we sit with like the gambling corner and the idiots that we work with big Evan, Marty, much, I say that in an endearing way because they know their idiots. They're like, Hey, PFT got a hot tip.

And so I was like, let me, let me search this on Twitter. It was a fucking Twitter egg with like four followers who tweeted PFT said, take the Padres today. That's what made it. I was like, shit, now I got to take them too. That's what made it so hot was because this guy was so mysterious. Yes. Four followers.

I was like, he's got to know something. He deserves all the, the wrath that, uh, you know, is coming to him. And apparently we have a bunch of AWLs in the scouting department to, uh, in the box. So shout out those guys. Any more hot tips? You want to send them before kickoff? It's usually the best time. Text me.

That's it. That's why he's back. That's all right. All right. Thanks for getting me riled up again. He's also back. Yes. Oh dude.

The best quote of all time in the intro to that game, Bill Walton saying, I've been dead for many years now. And then he said he wouldn't be a catcher because he can't get low. He does better getting high just seamlessly. And then every single ball that got hit, he was like, oh, oh, oh, there's a foul ball or there was relatable though. Yeah. No, it is relatable.

He, but he also would get done that. He would, like someone would hit a pop up to the left field. He'd be like, get out, get out. And it was 40 yards away from the fence. He's like, go, go, go, go. Also relatable. Yes. Bill Walton watching a baseball game is just, it's incredible.

He should do way more games. I don't know why they haven't thought of this, but he should just do everything. When they do the Ocho on ESPN, it should just be Bill Walton just sleep deprived for 36 hours. Just discussing Cornhole talking about dodgeball. You name it. We said something nice about MLB. So now we can say something mean it's insane that they didn't have that game on national

television. Yes. Like MLB network, you are there for a reason. Who the fuck cares what's going on a Friday night? Bill Walton is calling the angels versus the White Sox. Idiots. Real shame. Idiots.

My who's back of the week is, is that it Hank? We're done. That's it. Okay. My who's back. Hang on one second. I lost mine. I feel like I just woke big cat out of a coma.

Yeah. I mean, I'm upset still. Where's my who's back? I seriously have not won a bet since he put me on the worst tilt. It was O and three. I went O and three because of it because I should have gone one and O and I went O and two instead. There's a three unit swing.

Okay. My who's back of the week is winning bets when I'm gambling at football. I've been on a hot streak this week. Fuck you. I've been blazing hot. You want to know my tip is the overs. So the only over that didn't hit for me this week that I bet on was that Tampa Bay game. So I've been riding high.

My who's back is. And I've got some hot. You know my hot tip. I took the over on the Seahawks game. It's not going to hit. So did I. It's not going to hit. But I took the live.

You know why? I looked into it very strongly in the second quarter and I put my money where my mouth is and this one's going to hit too. So I'm feeling great about that. It's not going to hit. I'm winning all the money. My other who's back of the week is Greenland. Greenland is back in a big way by that.

Real estate markets are booming there because it was reported I believe on Friday that Donald Trump is looking very strongly into purchasing Greenland and he's made the suggestion several times to the point where they're not sure if he's joking about it anymore. Now it doesn't matter that Greenland isn't selling but we're looking very strongly into buying it. Listen if you've worked in real estate like I have not to brag even though it was the worst real estate career of all time there's always a price. You walk up to a house and you're like hey listen are you selling and they say no.

Guess what. If you throw some cash around they'll fucking sell unless it's owned by one of those old Scottish guys that lives on Trump's golf courses and like Aberdeen and refuses to sell. So like they have to build a hole around his house. President Trump is essentially from Napoleon Dynamite remember when Uncle Rico sells a Tupperware and the woman's like I want that. He's just looking at Greenland like I want that. I want that.

I mean just for the I fucking love cocaine memes Greenland is prime territory for that. When people say President Trump wants to buy Greenland is Trump buying Greenland or is America buying Greenland. It's confusing. It's confusing. Probably just a golf course. I could see it go either way to be honest with you. He might just think it's just a giant putting green.

He's like yeah. I want Greenland. Yes. Exactly. Imagine how many courses. It could be as simple as that. Yes. That is.

Yeah. All right. My who's back is judging MMA fights on their marketability. So Revelle is back. We had a great UFC I think it was 241 awesome fights. At what point are they going to give up just the numbers. No I think that's the best. I think that's the coolest thing because then you get to hype up like 500 is going to be

two. You're going to miss UFC 500. I'm not going to miss five. They should bring it back for 500. I'm not going to miss 250. That's coming up. That's a good point. Right.

Yeah. Keep it going until 50. But then I don't know. Just give it like a nickname like the rumble in the jungle. Everyone wanted to tune into that shit. It sucks. You're probably rowdy because we're at like rough and rowdy nine. We just feel.

Although that's history. You can be like I watched UFC you know number three with Butterbean. It was sick. All right. So Revelle he loves to do this after a great UFC fight. Great card. Recurring guest the baby Ocic and Daniel Cormier fought in the headliner. Shout out Nate Diaz by the way after he won and they're like why did you take three years

off and he just said because everyone fucking sucks. Yeah. That's an awesome thing to do. Take three years off and then come in and just kick everyone's ass. Revelle though said incredible fight but the less marketable one wins again. He judges all fights on who's the most marketable guy because he has no soul and he's a robot and doesn't actually care about watching sports. Exactly.

He probably didn't even watch the fight. It was an awesome card and then he has this thing all time nut shot to yes yes big time nut shot. He has this thing and Daniel Cormier who I love and great interview. You know he doesn't have the best body and when you know everyone's like well he's an unbelievable athlete which he is unbelievable athlete you know unbelievable college wrestler. I think he was in a fantastic high school linebacker all these things but when you don't have a great body and then you lose specifically because you just get repeatedly punched in

the gut. That hurts. It is tough. That hurts. Here's a dumb question. Why did he stand up and box him. Well it's hard to get it's hard to get guys down. Yeah.

It's hard to shoot is what they call it. So he just decided to stand up. Well he had him down in the first. I thought it was going to be over. It's also tough. You get tired. He's kind of been punch cucked by Andy Ruiz recently. Yeah.

Like as our thick king or a new thick overlord in combat sports happens to not be an MMA but now he's the champion and Cormier lost his belt. Right. Did they have to put an extension on the belt when he gets it. He had. I think he had two belts at one point. That's true. He did.

Champ champ. But anyway Ravel also has this new thing where when people say you're you must be fun at parties. He just is like he replies I'm a 41 year old married man. I don't go to parties where people judge whether you are a blast or not. Yeah we know dude. We weren't talking about a literal party. We're going to invite you to.

You know what. No one was going to do that. Ravel. He's kind of showing himself. He used to be a real hit at party. Dude. You don't want to be at a party when Ravel shows up with the anchovy pizza. Yeah.

No you don't at all. Like he's the guy that walks in and ices somebody with a sprite zero in 2026. Yeah. Gotcha. So I feel this is going to be great for my Instagram page that everyone hates. Hey I got you a Christmas present in the middle of July. Open this box. Boom.

Gotcha. Fucking Mountain Dew. Dude you. I brought cards against humanity. But I took out all the funny ones. Anyone. No he wouldn't. I mean.

No he do apples. Cards against humanity might be a little too risky. I made my own cards against humanity where every suggestion is just the after tax value on a different NFL players contract. You guys want to do make your own pizza at this kegger. Fucking Ravel. All right. Let's get to.

Let's do our Mount Rushmore. Okay. Before we do our Mount Rushmore a quick word from our great sponsor Dollar Shave Club. You guys got to get Dollar Shave Club. We get Dollar Shave Club. Dollar Shave Club. You. I listen.

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I'm gonna go with blue Just straight up blue. Okay. I don't love blue. It's so versatile. You got Navy now Can we wait? Do you get all the blues? I'm getting all the blues. I don't know if that's fair St. Louis blues No, I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's fair. I think you have to pick a certain blue I have to pick a certain blue. He has to be another name in front of the blue or just yeah You have to pick a blue a type of blue. Okay. I'm gonna go with Navy blue then okay I'm gonna go with royal blue. Oh, okay I'm gonna go Duke color of sky color my eyes. No wait. No sky. I'm gonna do I'm gonna do Carolina blue

Carolina blue color of sky. No, no Carolina blue and sky blue are different. Okay The fun part about this is you're gonna have some real like college football and college basketball weirdos Yes, explaining Pantones to you because you can't say that it's sky blue. All right So I'll go Carolina blue who doesn't love that baby blue also a baby blue greater than Carolina blue Yeah, okay, so we just way to be in a frat guys. We just went first three picks blues all blues Yeah, okay, you guys want to get a sick button down. We'll just wear different shades of blue Wait, is blue a frat coat? I mean like the blue button down is a very like, you know Like when you try to like hey, what do you have in your wardrobe? It's just all blue. I don't know. I played rugby

Yeah, it's true. Um, you you had a blue rugby shirt. Yeah, the navy blue. Yeah. Yes, okay Second pick so I have sky blue or no Carolina blue is my first pick my second pick. I'll do the color of money Green green. Okay color. I'm confused right color money could have been silver So money money gold money American green color American money is my pick parentheses green I'm gonna go with something better than money gold. Oh, oh, is that better than money really? Big Notre Dame guy you heard it. What do you think about Brian Kelly? Gold is more valuable than money Okay, gold you love gold. All right, see if big greedy out of you guys I'm gonna go with black all the colors nice goth all the colors and

Black is a sweet is a sweet color. It's very intimidating You can put it on your face to and it distracts you from the Sun. You can do that. It's great. It's a wonderful color All right, my next one is a panda. How was that a panda? And then I'm going to go with prop cat I'm gonna go with red nice red Intimidating Okay, blood red no, no, no, that wasn't you that's not you doing it It's the fact that we're doing a mouth brush or like red nice I mean think about it not as late with you or our picks right just the ridiculousness of this

No red is is an awesome color It is there been studies that show the teams that wear red uniforms typically win more often badgers Yeah, always win nine to ten games in the Outback Bowl. I will go with orange flavor color fire Charmander That's a triple crown right there. I like it. Okay Now you're gonna get a lot of people hating on your starburst take though. I don't know. There are a lot of pink stands out there How do you see? Yeah, there are a lot of pink stands out there myself. Yeah, I'm a pink stand to

Orange is definitely not the best just so you know, I think most people agree. It's not They would say pink or red Typically those are one and one a all right. How about purple the color of royalty? That's good. Mm-hmm We're love some purple purple little purple little Purple drink the color of packs and Lynch's cool new swaggy visor. Yeah, Seattle He's got a purple visor so such a cocky move to be the third string quarterback with a visor I would say he's definitely gonna be second string. Maybe even first bar Jackson Maybe that's right. It's out there in house. No, uh, Gino. It looks good. You know, I'm telling you like that purple visor

You look at this guy. Yeah They just showed up a Vikings fan that looked like he'd just been huffing a purple purple spray pink can for the last three days Like he just took a facial from grimace. Yeah, that was awesome. All right, my last pick. Hmm. I Kind of want to take another blue. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah There's a lot more blues out there. I'll finish with you know what I'll go silver. I'll go silver I like silver looks cool. Silver is good. Yeah, silver looks cool. All right, Hank. You're upset about silver I mean, I was gonna just take gray shot a Dak Prescott. Well, so there's kind of a more of a

So flashy. Yeah, flashy gray. It's a it's a it's more of like your Friday night gray. Mm-hmm. It's real tough here There's only like 6,000 colors left God you're stumped come on. Hey, come on. Hey this point of the draft Turquoise Okay, nice. All right fancy blue. Yeah, that was that's actually kind of like a showboat color Yeah, a little bit of a blue there. Yeah These are not turquoise bro, who would have thought that the the color Mount Rushmore would really break us apart Yeah, we are this color doesn't exist in nature. This is only that's turquoise this color only exists on like poisonous frogs That's how you know, it's awesome to wear. Is that a cyan? I've never been eaten while wearing

Is that a coral it's a coral blue it's like a salmon blue. It's a it's a foam green if that makes sense. Yeah pastel Yeah, okay. Yeah, what's your what's your last my last tip? I think I'm awesome I think I'm gonna go with Seahawks trim green mmm that neon green and now we're just saying we literally just went purple Seahawks green We're just picking things we're watching. Well, okay. You want me to change it up? No, no Way to describe it it is it's a good color had it written down the color of Baja blast That's my last pick. Okay Baja blast greenish blue. No, that is a good. I had that written down as well You had Baja Blaster. No, I had I had the Seahawks neon green kind of it is cool. Yeah tennis ball yellow

It's a maybe a Baylor Kind of when they wear the the Baylor basketball not the basketball team. Oh, yeah, the basketball team is not problematic Those jerseys stink though, and you don't like them. Oh the new Michigan State ones are scaring Baylor ones disgusting terrible What what cut off left off the list white? How about Outer isn't white like not a color. It wasn't this an original debate White is the absence of color right? Yeah, it's kind of an SJW move on your part leaving white off the list No, but it's not a color the blue check mark blue. Oh, that's a good one The Instagram orange. I did have royal blue

Oh with the green when you're in the close friend group on Instagram stories. Yeah, that's a fucking cool That's a good one. You feel like you're in the club. Shout out so for Julia. Yeah, I'm in her club, too It's always we all are probably what about Zubas Zubas does that count as its own color? Yeah Yeah, sure. Why not? Okay Zubas should have been on the list then um mistake Let's see pink no one pick pink. I guess we don't talk about masculinity cancer awareness It's kind of shitty on our part neon neat just neon. Yeah, just the neons all of them camo. What about camo? You can't see it digital camo so you nobody knows if it's good or not. Yeah, yeah, exactly good point Anything else? This was a riveting. I was thinking if I could make a case for brown

But I feel like I would have Scott the browns uniforms. I love mm-hmm, but they're orange. Yeah, yeah, so and the brown stripe The skid mark that goes down the helmet once you prove that you've got what it takes to be a brown This guy just like a heartbeat. I found this picture. This guy really that is the worst We got to put that out there right when I picked it does look like he took a load from from grimace, doesn't it? He's even got the white stripe in there. He did not Do well with the face paint. I look there's something there's something about the face paint NFL fan That's just they are like the cream of the crop. They're salt of the earth They're the only NFL fan that's better in England than in the United States

Yeah in England you get to people that look like cartoon just like cartoon versions of whatever the mascot is We need to they need to make we need to make a like a bar stool documentary Just following the big face paint fans from the moment they wake up on Sunday to the moment They get actually let's follow them all the way to their office on Monday morning You have to get them going to work because you know that they've got some residual in the eyebrow They didn't like the stubble like hey, dude. You got something on your oh shit I got that neon green because I've been standing in the end zone of the Seahawks game Yeah, Sunday if you wear face paint to an NFL game. You should be required to wear it all week at work

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Wait room. What does that look like? He definitely outmeeted me. Well, I said we're we're gonna roll on with these guys in like 20 minutes He's like, all right fucking disappears for 20 minutes comes back Swallowed up. He you're trying to get the vascularity up, you know Trugs before that was very smart I actually believe that's true because I've seen there are a lot of pictures that you've put on Instagram yourself that you've tweeted out yourself You're kind of like Julian Edelman. You're the king of thirst traps of the Midwest right now It's like muscles marinara. Look at me. I'm the soulless fullback in the land Not very gritty of you. How do you offend your vanity? Hey, man?

I think with that was something like that if you got it flaunted. I think there's nothing wrong with that I'll work hard to look the way I look and It's worth putting it out there. How much can you curl? That's that's a good question You know exactly how much you know, no, no, it's not because it actually yeah Yeah, I mean like it's all about getting the pump. That's my missus. It's the appearance of looking big Like a hundred twenty, but yeah, I don't ever do reps. What are you like for a guy who'd like to get bigger biceps? What do you do? What's your secret? You got to do at least four sets of 15. Okay, and

Pretty much just hit every every angle possible all the angles. Okay, like outside inside. Yeah, hammer curl hammer curls Of course this one. That's hammer, right? Yeah, hammer curls. Okay. How would you squat for real? It's probably right around the same thing like 550 Fuck your legs are about as big as Doug Barones. Yeah, you know the cat the calves are just genetic, too Yeah, anything for that. Oh, wow That's nice. That's good jeans. Um, all right, so Full back to full back Have you guys had like a talk about being the full back at the Green Bay Packers and what it means because you had a legacy?

Everyone Shannon Coon. I think they were booing you, but whatever Chicago they might have been. Yeah, they definitely were so have you had a talk with Danny like this is what it means This is my legacy my name that you're stepping into most definitely. I didn't say it was my legacy I said it was the Packer legacy. Okay. I told him I did tell you this offense is set up sweet for him I mean his set of skills You don't play Lorenzo Neil full back anymore in the NFL, which was an awesome full back But you're not just sledding downhill Smoking your face mask on another guy's face mask. You got it. You got to be versatile

You got to be able to catch 20 yard 30 yard passes downfield and you got to be able to run the football What juice does out there in San Francisco? You're gonna see a lot of that out of Danny this year Hmm. Are you excited to play that type of full back? Or is there a part of you that's like I do want to smoke my face mask another guy's face mask No, I mean, that's that's something everybody wants to do as a full back Like if you don't have that mentality, you're never gonna make it in this league as a full back So one thing I played at Northwestern obviously I kind of played that like H back. They called a super back there That's a great name

You want to play super back I'd rather play super back than full back Glamorous position you give it the most glamorous name. I love it needs to change the full back. Yeah Yeah, yeah, so so that was kind of my original skill set was like that versatility and stuff like that And then when I was in Cleveland for two years, I had to learn how to be that hand in the ground You know just go smash faces Get that mentality out of it. So now that I can kind of combine the two This is just a perfect system for that. Would you say so speaking in Northwestern? Would you say that Northwestern has the greatest home advantage of any school in the entire country? Absolutely

Keep the grass long keep everybody else slow play at 11 a.m. Yeah Because the Bears do the same thing they try and maul you to sleep when you get there They take fast teams and try and slow them. Yeah, well the park district owns like runs soldier field That's their fault for fucking it up But so were you on the team when you guys played Stanford at the beginning of the year? Yeah, that was the worst football game ever Yeah, that was awesome. Hey, we got the W. Yeah, and we took them out of a probably a national championship run Yes, that was and that was the quintessential Northwestern home advantage is 11 a.m. Early September and It was sleepwalk city for Stanford. I think they punted from your 40. Yeah, you guys punted from there 35

Yeah, it was a punt fest. I think we did the same thing in Wisconsin. Oh, yeah, either maybe the year before or something Always exact exact same thing. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah I always whenever I like look at the Wisconsin schedule. Yeah, I always am like, all right If they have to go to Evanston, it's gonna be a trap. Oh, yeah, because you play that early game Yeah, you know, you don't lose you don't lose at home in Northwest, right? It's just a little different It's a little weird. Yeah, you also on the team that played that night game against Ohio State Um, yeah, I want to say that was game day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're same thing We're winning the whole game and then you fall bold and lost the spread. Yeah, exactly. Yeah

Yeah, remember that one. Yeah, we remember hearing about that I always wondered about that when you grow the grass out to slow the other guys down doesn't it just slow you down, too We're slow already. Yeah But don't you also get slower? No, I mean, I guess so but we're also used to playing on that field all the time Yes guys don't know how to run. Yeah Slow your whole life. So you get so slow guy can almost be faster than a fast guy if it's slow Yes, you slow down. Yeah, right. We went down to Chicago one time with Ryan Grant One of the fastest guys I've ever played with

He would get out of the backfield and just start stumbling Hard time in that field now if he got away from he's still ran fast He'd still run and and he did have an 80 yard touchdown in Chicago But sometimes man those fast guys they they just can't handle that grasping that long Yeah, I want to talk to you real quick about your Lambo leap because I think you had the greatest Lambo leap of all time The one that I made it or the one that I did the one that you didn't the one Where you got right up to the wall and you tried so hard to get up there into the first row I think you got like six inches off the ground. No, I didn't get any inches. Yeah

No, you're committed to low pad level which I appreciate have you talked to Danny at all and given him any tips about the Lambo leap Did you see his calves? The guy's not gonna have a problem. Okay, these calves were made for jumping That's just what they're gonna do. He's gonna be just fine getting up into the stands. So you think he's gonna score? Oh, he's gonna score touchdowns. Oh, how many he's gonna be a weapon. I bet you I Put the over-under at five. Okay. I like that all-time record for a super back. Wow Going back to Northwestern for one more question Coach for Cheryl obviously made a ton of press with his cell phone speech Yeah, do you use your cell phone or has it also like gotten in your head like I can't use my cell phone because of the

Northwestern way. No No, I'm definitely always on the cell phone still. I mean you guys see the Instagram. Yeah, yeah always on social Yeah, yeah, always on Twitter. I enjoyed man. It's a lot of fun What'd you think about that speech because I actually thought it was perfect for Northwestern? It wouldn't work other places, you know I think I think like as far as like other places though You got to look at like ticket prices and game day experience right now I mean, I think that might be affecting more so than the cell phone thing like you said at Northwestern

It might be cell phones, but mm-hmm other places more so ticket prices and stuff like that like people would rather watch from home You watch eight games on TV at once. Yep, then go to a game Yeah, and you know five hundred dollars or whatever it costs to get in there and pay for food. So yeah, it is the ultimate Conundrum that like football finds itself in is that it is just built for TV It is the ultimate couch sport, especially you see it so much better on TV, right? You're trying to watch it in a stance and you're I mean you can't tell if a guy got the first down didn't make Who the heck the guy even was sometimes you can't even tell who it was you watch it on you watch it on TV You see it from 50 different angles. It's it's better to watch it on TV

Well, yeah, and then and then I mean you sit on your couch with all your buddies and drink some bud light And you're just chilling there for you know, $20 rather than right in a $20 single beer right at a football game You watch all the games not just yeah, yes, which is pretty nice to especially if you're a gambler Yeah, like that's John when you retired you retired with exactly I think a yards per carry average of 3.0 did that on purpose I was going to ask you about that that is the that is the pinnacle of being a fullback right there like not enough to You know really stand out in the stat sheet, but also just keeping the chains moving that was in your mind when you were like Yeah, it was difficult my last four career runs netted exactly negative two yards to do that

So that was a challenge, but we made it happen. It's actually not moving the chains No, if you do it four times in a row. Oh, you're going for on fourth and one if you okay, I don't know I don't know it would have been nice if you had 3.3 or 3.0 no no point three repeating and then get that little Extra little piece if you had pie then it just looks weird. Okay at 3.0 looks and sounds good Oh talking about weird things when you retired you mentioned your luncheon costumes with Aaron Rodgers. What were those? Well, we just tried to do anything as outlandish as could possibly be because we found ourselves at the end of camp just brain dead and Just mushy so we said let's go to this luncheon, which is a heck of a lot of fun for anybody out there watching and

We go to these we'd go to these luncheons and we had to find a way to spirit it up and And make it fun for us and make it fun for the fans So we would dress up as pilots astronauts cowboys I mean Danny's already got the stash going but we'd grow we'd grow that stuff out for six weeks for camp and then just come in With the gnarliest thing you could have just to try and get some get some excitement going So sticking with Rodgers you famously told us that Aaron Rodgers didn't talk to you for three years Has he shunned you yet? No, actually, you know, I would say like it's kind of picked up a lot I obviously you start making plays and stuff like that. He starts noticing and stuff, but no no

He's a great dude. He's been talking to me a bunch So I think a lot of that's just making fun of the Instagram and stuff, but it's been good Okay, he you obviously that was a joke, but there was no he shuns. He shuns. He'll shun shun off shun on Yeah, he will he'll yeah, it's like a fog mask. It's like He'll get you it's usually in the offseason when he leaves Green Bay I think his phone doesn't work from different area cuz I'll back you up on that one Are you ready to hit somebody else yet? Oh, can't wait I mean, we had the joint practice this week too. So we had a chance to do some of that

But yeah, I can't wait man That's always the best thing is when you don't have to go against the same, you know Damn people every single day. It makes a big difference You think JJ Watt was faking his injury because he didn't want to get chipped by you. I Actually had an opportunity to chip him totally. I totally whiffed. Oh really? Oh, yeah But but it's it's one of those things where like you don't want to get the back on that guy in the first place So yeah, yeah So you Danny you're a big boxing and MMA guy. Yeah, do you do it in the offseason?

Yeah all the time and how does it help as a fullback well the way I try to explain it to people is like obviously like from a Meathead perspective. Yeah, I'm trying to lift all the time. So it gets me real loose Obviously, I'm doing the kickboxing boxing hips everything like that gets loose and then it's just transferring force from one it You know one spot to another Really and then it's just the mentality I mean, that's what you got to carry over to football Especially as a fullback in this day and age if you don't have that mentality You're not gonna make it in the league long as a fullback. So you ever gonna get in the octagon

Yeah, it's it's definitely a bucket list item for me. Okay. Um, you can fight in Ruffin Rowdy. Yeah Yes, I guess another fullback who can fight. I don't know John Kuhn John Kuhn. That's perfect. Yeah Listen, I grappled one offseason to get ready for for football that is the worst shit in the world and that's grappling That's not throwing fisticuffs right anything to do with that stuff. Yeah, I still have my mind I'm gonna I'm gonna do the best I can to keep what I have left. Yeah, Danny Have you thought about rocking the cowboy collar just like a big-ass neck roll or something like that? You know if it was like back in the old days a hundred percent would

Now that I'm like actually running routes and have to like look up for the fucking ball half the time I can't I would not be able to do it. We're actually keeping track. So this year we implemented a stat We had somebody go back and do the math on it last year a fullback assist we invented a brand new stat this year is when you set a block on somebody and They score a touchdown if they're lined up with a fullback and a running back within five yards If the tailback scores a touchdown and you hit the block then you get an assist Which is a stat that I feel like has been missing from the NFL for a very long time So I think Devlin led the league in it last year, but we're make it

We're starting a campaign to make it like an actual fantasy stat. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't only on touchdowns I mean can't you get it on like short yarded rounds? No, it's gonna be touch Yeah, I mean, I guess you could for a first down in theory, but I feel like you know, we'll implement it slowly Yeah, did you trademark this because you don't want the NFL steel right now. I just trademarked it right now trademark Yeah, I mean trademark Ft. Yeah, well, I said, you know Chris Collins worth here. This is still immediately a pro football focus. Yeah You need it

So fullbacks do you guys you know how like kickers always meet in the middle or the quarterbacks meet in the middle Do you do fullbacks do that after games? I don't know if I did Cuz I listen man, it's a small fraternity and you better keep that brotherhood alive They're trying to do away with the position. No, we need to make a stand here. We might strike soon. Yeah We might sit out. You guys need to get we need to get like the endangered species list if it was just like, you know elephants and white rhinos and John Coon but the weird part is you start finding yourself like some of those teams don't have fullbacks So you're like, all right, who's the shortest Yeah, I try to I try to go talk to him every single time it's the same thing I would say it's like the fullback fraternity

Yeah, every every time I go look and try and find them I actually I was trying to find out who they are before the game starts to like look on the roster Height weight see all that stuff. Oh Kind of give him the eyeball test stuff like that That's great. The Jeep wave for fullbacks is just looking at you being like just how much you squab Yeah, did you look pretty rocked up? Yeah doing anything doing anything extra like what are you doing any new any new workouts? I need no bicep vein look good out there, dude Fucking love it. I love it. Um, all right, you're gonna be a journalist now gonna try. Yeah, I'm gonna try you need any tips

Yeah, what do you got for me? So you can swear on the podcast. I got that. I got it out early No, you can swear on the broadcast to would not do that. I mean I Well, that's why I got it out here You got to get as many out as you can Have you had to catch yourself because it is a different side of your brain when we go on like TV or do radio It's like, okay. You got to remember remember remember. Well, I you know, my wife is on my ass all the time Right setting John right setting. So I mean I have her in the back. I mean, it's it's Right setting

So I'm kind of prepared I kind of under I already have that switch programmed in my head You should just do like subtle references to gambling like how Michaels does and everybody loves that be like and this one It's over. Yeah, you know one of those ones. Yeah, uh-huh kind of ruin people's days. Yes, uh-huh. Yes Well for most people like us when we we don't bet the under we just don't bet the over sometimes Sometimes It's just the over would you only bet the over yeah, he was he was just being nice to the under and he was just all the Under people out there. Yeah, he's trying to be deep. Well, you got a people you want people to think you're betting the under So they bet the under set the line comes down and then you bet you that's right

We should start manipulating the line. Yes, we should think I mean you guys got enough following you could know because everyone they would just They would cause reverse of what I do because I'm so bad They would also just call bullshit on us be like you guys aren't betting the yeah There's a lot of people have gotten rich feeding me publicly So I think that would that would have the reverse effect. Are you doing that to yourself too? You're just kind of oh, I've done Oh, yeah, come on. You got it. I've done castans of weekends where I just go gut pick and then Yeah, yeah, the human body has a weird way of just like knowing when to reverse itself though Yeah, because then you mentally say I actually kind of like this and then you reverse it whatever it's a whole thing

All right, my last question Danny as a Bears fan, are you gonna fumble on purpose September 5th? Absolutely not. Okay. No I'm full on Green Bay now. Yeah I wouldn't be shocked at the families wearing bear stuff though, so I'm gonna have to still try and convert some of them Yeah, that'll be fun. That'll be fun. So are they gonna come up to Green Bay for the game when bears play here? That will be I'm sure they'll be at both of them. Yeah, you actually if you're having a good year You can maybe get them some TV. How many tickets are you gonna have to get for that Bears game? That's gonna be a price. Last year last year was what Christmas or the 23rd. Mm-hmm Oh, well, you then you yeah, I have I had like this before we can't do Christmas gifts in September now. Yeah

I'll tell you what here's a Christmas gift. You can use Seeky promo code grit and get 20 bucks boom off all those tickets for A family save you some coin on the flip side. Yeah, and the Seeky question is already. Oh, I didn't do it. No Is Why did big cat think that I already did the Seeky question cuz you know reverse reverse That's my backup shot at the golf carts. What's the best block you guys have ever had? I Mean mine I blocked well since we're on the Bears kick. I blocked Julius Peppers and we it was a late career We want what we want actually late late was here. No, it wasn't late because it will late late late was Carolina Yeah, yeah, go back and then he's a bear. No, he was he was an absolute animal

I mean in all reality, I got lucky. It was it was a lucky block and he just happened to jump at the same time So it made it look really good on my part It looked really good But we wanted the vision and then they released them and he came and played with us. So that was a lot of fun I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of change it a little bit, but the biggest collision I ever had was like two years ago I think me and Miles Jack we were just running like I so play and we just fucking collided and You know kind of get your head bounce back see stars and I look at them First of all, I felt like my head was like just a totally different shape

I Have each other up and then I I end up running off the the field and I take off my helmet I'm like I said check and making sure my head's not like a different shape Turn my face mask around and it was just fucking caved in. Oh, like my whole face mess. So I got to keep that So that was my biggest collision. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's the only way you get to keep helmets, too Yeah, really a whole lot of stuff. Yeah, if you break your face mask. Yeah I remember hearing was his name the the full back on the lines was it Schlesinger back in the day? Yeah, he broke like 14 face masks. Oh, yeah, there was a show the paint coming off of it

Yeah, when you get the paint off your helmet, that's when you know, you're full back Yeah, I like that you just refer to the biggest collision of your career. It's not the best block just like in practice most painful No, no, no game. This is a game. Yeah, you guys dapped each other. Oh, yeah. No, yeah, we literally looked at each other We're like Yeah, what happened on the plate, I mean, it was I don't know probably was like Place 50 yards downfield they're just dappin each other Four yard gain for all I know Not to be offensive. How'd you get into Northwestern?

See here's the John's gonna John's gonna back me up on this though Fullbacks get the rat that we're not smart people I think there's some of the fucking smartest guys on the football field because we got to know every line scheme Whether it's a run game or pass game. We got to know all the protections You got to know every route at least in this offense now got to know every single route because they'll spread you out put You in the slot Basically, you got to know everything except for the quarterbacks reads. So I mean, I think you got to be a pretty smart guy

I know that's why Aaron loved him. So and we've remind each other that after every single game when we get it to 50 No, you're smart What's the biggest muscle in your body? Is it the biceps of the brain? Wait? Oh last last question did Did Revelle or Greeny ever pump up Northwestern when you were there. Oh, yeah green green you big time man Yeah, he's awesome about that. Well, he actually it was funny. He came in he was a honorary captain one week Okay, and I guess he went into the training room was like hey like can you guys spat me up like I want to get spatted before I go out there. So what's that? Like when you get the ankle tape like Like we'll take you back to get

Spat it I've been I've been taped up. Oh, I've been lit up, but I've never been spatted. So yeah Yeah, so so he literally like came out to give us like our like, you know pregame pump-up speech like in cleats and spat it up Oh my god, pretty funny. It's probably so madam green night. Take your shoes off before you come in So I can't I'm spatted Oh It hurts Man, all right guys. Thank you so much appreciate it. This was awesome Full backs to full backs. I fucking love it. I'm gonna look for you open if we open saying our squat

What do we do when we close man, bitch? Oh, yeah, bench. Yeah, what do you bench? Best or no best Unless now is 35 435. Yeah, mine's actually exact same. Oh damn one rep. Yeah telling you guys Watch out. Okay. All right. I'm gonna watch. Are you more likely to lead the league in fullback touchdowns or fullback assists this year? who Why not both the double crown you got like a fucking hype man. Yeah, he's just walking around in the league We're fullbacks. We hype each other Man, all right, thanks boys appreciate it

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Zip recruiter the smartest way to hire and now my internet dad Mike Florio Okay, we now welcome on our friend My internet dad internet uncle Michael Florio. It's probably a little too early We were gonna wait till September to You know have all the ita bills have to listen to you drone on about your fantasy team But we needed to have you on because Antonio Brown. We makes no sense and we need you to explain it as a former lawyer What the hell is going on? I have noticed that during the off-season you never invite me on There's plenty of stuff that happens during the off-season, but I'm on the pay-no-mind list for January

Until September except when you really really need me like right now Right, that's exactly. I mean we have Pete Prisco on in the off-season all the time, right? But just not you we want to keep you fresh. You're not on every down back Yeah, I know well, but I but I think I can't be every back It is not an every down back wants to be an every-down back. I want to be an every-down back I want to be on as often as I can I think I can you're not a bell cow Sooner you accept the fact yeah, you're you're Chris long We'll use you maybe a couple third downs here and there, right?

So yeah, the helmet thing this is the damnedest thing now It's a crazy situation because the Antonio Brown by all appearances is being Unreasonable he refuses to give up the helmet that he's worn for more than ten years And this all started because the specific helmet he has is more than ten years old and because of that it can't be recertified by its outside entity known as Noxie no seat SAE So that was what they thought about for months and as of last Monday the end result was he can't wear this helmet It's more than ten years old. It can't be recertified and that was the end of it, but then I had a reader who

Contacted Noxie and said hey if he finds the same model that's less than ten years old Which you guys recertified and the guy who runs Noxie said yeah If he can find a shut-air advantage that's less than ten years old will recertify it and one thing leads to another and the raiders Antonio Brown with the league called the raiders this works if you can find a shut-air advantage It's less than ten years old and Noxie recertifies it. You can wear it So brown went to Twitter on Tuesday You guys may have seen it putting out the call for a shut-air advantage made in 2010 or later He found several of them. They eventually found one made in 2014 for a movie because they quit making the thing officially in

2011 so Everything's moving in the direction of Antonio Brown Wearing a shut-air advantage that's less than ten years old the NFL had never banned and prohibited the shut-air advantage And then late in the week the NFL tells Antonio Brown, sorry we have to test this thing and We're going to test it if it fails you can't wear it and then of course they tested it It's failed and now we can't wear it even though Noxie Recertified the helmet that Brown found and sent to them for reconditioning and recertification So at best it's been horrible communication between the raiders the NFL and Browns camp at worst

I feel like they just want to win They're just making it up as they go as we often see them do in order to get the result They want the result they wanted your brown doesn't get where the helmet he wants to wear so that's getting a nutshell Okay, so why does the NFL not want Antonio Brown to wear his preferred helmet? Well, I think what happened was the NFL never bothered to test the shut-air advantage even though Antonio Brown was still wearing one and That's the one thing that they won't flat out admit because what they've done over the past few years They've begun to take out of service

Helmet models that they believe aren't sufficiently safe. Remember last year Tom Brady Aaron Rogers and others were in that grace period where they let them wear the helmet one more year Even though the helmet itself was on the list of prohibited helmets They gave them one more year to adjust Find a new helmet and move on they never put the shut-air advantage on that list They rushed this week to test it and jam it onto that list I think one of the things Antonio Brown is currently upset about It's not bringing in larger than others got a year to transition out of their helmet once they knew that their helmet model was banned

But the NFL just banned the shut-air advantage this week Antonio Brown isn't going to get a year to transition out of it. But look at it You know, this is an intensely personal thing whether it's because guys think they look good in their helmet They think they see better. They think they play better. Whatever it is. They get used to it Tom Brady still would love to wear his old helmet He's admitted that and I think that's one of the reasons why Antonio Brown's pissed off because there's a sense that the NFL Once they recognized there was a loophole because they had failed to previously test the shut-air advantage They jammed that loophole shot to win but I mean I think they're doing it for health and safety and whatnot

But I think from Antonio Brown's perspective He feels like he got screwed over here that they did what they had to do So they would win and he would lose and he would have to go find your helmet that he would prefer not to have to find Okay, so I guess I mean this whole thing is so stupid and it makes sense what you're saying that essentially the NFL Put out the rule hoping that he wouldn't find a helmet then they're just gonna keep saying no to every single new helmet eventually Just he's got to wear the new helmets. I saw Mike Mayock today Gruden and Mayock are playing a good cop bad cop Gruden basically saying we fully support him blah blah blah Mayock was like you're all in or you're all out shit or get off the pot

What do you think the conclusion of this is gonna be? Well, I mean at a certain point Sanity has to prevail here He's got 30 million fully guaranteed that he's gonna make over the next two years in any helmet that the NFL will let him wear So go pick another helmet and even if you don't play as well as you think you're gonna play or you don't look as good as you Would prefer to look or whatever the case may be you're still getting the 30 million if you don't play you lose the 30 million It's a hell of a decision to pin on 30 million dollars And I'd like to write for all for all the craziness we've seen from Antonio Brown

I'd like to think that even he is not that Warped that he would walk away from 30 million dollars. I think he might be yeah, if he doesn't look good Yeah, good play good next thing you know, they tell you that you can't dye your mustache blonde, right? You know very slippery slow, but you know It's weird as it sounds and I was talking to somebody from the union at night They said every week during the season they're going to pay gladly 5,000 3,000 $10,000 fine if they want to have their socks as long as they want or as short as they want the NFL says your mind They don't care they think if they they really do think that Chris simps is told me that which is I run

It's never really played good, but he said you look good you play good and he always wanted to look good So at least he had half of it under control But that's the mindset that these players have who's just trying to cover up his Kyle Shanahan tattoo That's why I want the extra long socks cover up the Kyle Shanahan tattoo That is true. You know, I've tried to get him to show that he is so embarrassed about that now I'm surprised he just hasn't gotten it removed. He's got the money to get it removed. He refuses to show it All right, so that my last question is the most important question. What would you suggest? We do for our fantasy team if our draft is gone. No, no, no, I'm not answering that question. No, I'm not saying

I'm asking no, we're putting up we're putting out our official rankings of our first round draft picks this week And we don't know if it's worth taking a shot on you based upon the information that I have just shared make your own decisions It's all I'm saying. I'm not making any fantasy advice and I have definitely not sharing anybody Okay, come on you just don't want to say did you have him last year don't I'm not I am not Well, no the problem is like if he if he's in a keeper league are you in a keeper league? Just answer that like No, we really do care about fancy football this year cuz Hank's starting a starting one will you go on a show stop it?

Okay, all right. Well, Mike, we'll see you in a couple weeks We'll probably text you on you. You know the drill Sunday night when we don't have a guest and it's like 9 30 We'll text you. Yeah next time try to give me more than two minutes notice No, you're the fault you're the fallback guy. Yeah, you're a fall guy Chris Carter. Thanks All right, thanks. Thanks dad. See ya See ya That interview with Mike Florio and his fantasy team was brought to you by the Barstool summer store collection The Barstool store is released their summer merch collection

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Love that he's doing this because this happened right before we got in the studio to record and Peter King God damn it. You love eating that trash. He retweeted a Parity account a fake account that said sources confirmed that Raiders QB Derek Carr tried to convince Brown to change his mind But Brown told Carr. I don't listen to no whack-ass Trump supporters And Peter King quoted and said has any player ever done more to shoot his way out of town before ever playing a game there? Rick Ruth Yeah, there you go, but there's a king way to go man. Nothing like eating the trash. How I Don't think he should be allowed to be on like Twitter past 6 p.m.

Right after you get half an alagash white into Peter King He should have a phone that he should have a breathalyzer on his phone like people do with their with their car ignitions Right where he should have to get on if he wants to quote tweet or retweet something But more importantly, I just want to say if if Peter King follows you on Twitter It is your moral imperative to retweet as many bogus news stories as possible Fill his timeline with the fakest news stories. Yes, I'm glad that he did I mean it's preseason for Peter King too, so he's probably gonna get fooled a couple more times This is when Peter makes his big mistakes, by the way

Yes, isn't the preseason driving through bike lanes and just mowing down cyclists and refusing to apologize for it What did he do last week? He did something where we banned him from the show, right? Well, yeah, he got pulled over while talking on his phone Well, he's driving while talking on his phone either that or he heard the siren He was listening to part of my take and he heard the siren come through the window probably which by the way Hey, it'll surprise you to know that the windows were not fixed last week. Yes next week. They're gonna be finished Yeah, so this this show if you feel so inclined tweet all business Pete tomorrow morning But do it with a if you Google like picture broken link or

Picture that won't load tweet him a picture Maybe even just a blacked-out screen and say hey Pete. What the hell is this? So he thinks that his Wi-Fi which does suck here is really really bad and he can't load any pictures Yeah, just send him a gif of the of the loading like the circle. Yes. Yes Just sit there being like fuck my Wi-Fi sucks, which it does We have a king stay Kings. We actually have two by the way I added one late late breaking one, but uh, so first up a Kings King stay Kings So the first up is Marlins man. We talked about the Williamsport game

Someone asked them are you at the game tonight? Haven't seen you on TV the most important question He said no way would know way. I would go no way. I take a seat from a kid It's just like the MLB games at military bases. No way. I take a seat from a trooper Yep troopers you are you're safe to attend games at Fort Bragg and Children you're safe to attend games in Williamsport. Then what are the odds that he just like kind of forgot about this game? Probably yeah, like 99 100% He's somewhere he probably turned it on shit He should have just gotten a kid and made the kid where all the Marlins man stuff

Yes, like found a little kid and put him in his oversized shirt. Yeah, well side down visor He probably has a few kids from out there with the way he you know, yeah He gets around in the round. Yeah talking like spread an MBA team MLB team out there on the road a lot road Yeah, you know road beef. Yeah Marlins man happening. Yeah, he's probably got kids everywhere No, he strikes me as one of those guys that you see in law and order episodes where it's like a fertility doctor that has 2,000 children he's just impregnated. Yeah, he's probably just impregnated a ton of troops. Yes troopers. Mm-hmm troopers Yeah, but yeah, so shout out Marlins man for not going and not taking a seat away from a kid Appreciate it man. That's that's why you're the best. This is listen. This is why we pay attention to Marlins man

This is why his message gets out there because of his consistent values. Correct. You buddy The other kids are King Stay Kings. I was a kid stay kids Lenny Dykstra, so Lenny made a proclamation similar Marlins man saying he would not take a seat from a trooper Mm-hmm at the Williamsport or a kid Lenny Dykstra said enough exclamation point Stop private messaging me to ask me my opinion about About whether Maddie

Frecking the young lady in the Little League World Series is going to be hot in five or six years or whatever Everyone stop hashtag inappropriate even for hashtag Nails Nation Stop and then he put a link to her. Oh good included a picture. Yeah, he In a pro hashtag inappropriate for hashtag Nails Nation Yes, even for Nails Nation. So thank you for standing up. We have a line good guy Lenny Dykstra We found the line. Yeah, let me knock it across it Listen, if maybe if she was 14 or 15 he would speculate on that but the fact that she's 12

He's not gonna touch it. This is one of those situations where like Lenny You had you had to make an announcement that you weren't going to rate the attractiveness of a 12 year old girl Mm-hmm. That probably is like the fact that you had to make the announcement We've gone a little so we've we've gone astray somewhere down the line Yes, we've lost the plot exactly and you know what he should do He should do that thing where he just includes like a link to his patreon He's like in order to fund me continuing to not Yeah, Lenny Dykstra should just start a website

That's the opposite of hot or not where he just doesn't rate the attractiveness of pre-pubescent children. What an announcement Good job Lenny not even for Nails Nation by the way He didn't rule out in five or six years though. So even for Nails Nation. Yes appropriate now He's just not gonna comment publicly on it, but you better believe Lenny Dykstra is having some off-the-record conversations about this right now. All right, finally before we get to our Actually, we have two more we have her to injured for the entire Washington Redskins team slash medical staff Yes, so what's going on? So everything's going on there So Trent Williams is not gonna play for the team this year

He said because they misdiagnosed the tumor on his head, which seems like a pretty big deal Yep, then obviously Alex Smith has had numerous setbacks with his leg and Colt McCoy Not to be out This is why he's a good backup because you get the same type of consistency from your backup as your starter His broken leg has not been healing correctly either and he won't be ready until like three or four weeks into the regular season So basically everybody on the our words is getting injured Geez and there it's like it's one of those situations You remember when when Shiana was like in Tampa Bay. Yeah, and where there's just like in Mersa Mersa

Just swimming around you you'd have better luck getting injured at the bottom of a trench in World War one Then in that Redskins locker room right now with all the shit that's like creeping around It's crazy to me that these teams that are making so much money and such huge investments How they don't have like the biggest greatest medical staff. It's insane. It is insane Yeah, well Dan Snyder is the answer to this. Yes, that is true But you see it on other teams too. Yeah, where it's like, oh, yeah, well, they just can't diagnose anything correctly Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen I guess it's looking like Colt is gonna be injured until like October this year from us from a broken fibula

You know what it was? Sanchez Sanchez was in that locker room last year. He got everyone breaking bones. Everyone breaking. Well, no I was gonna say like, you know the clap. Yeah, that's true. All the everyone's got something everyone's yeah They're getting more as contacts than TDs. Yeah. All right. My last one before we get to our Monday reading We read a headline. I didn't read this story, but I just saw the headline. Okay 538 you got you know them, right? The nerds. Yes, they predicted 2016 perfectly They wrote are we sure Aaron Rodgers is still an elite quarterback Hmm. We're not asking the question the nerds have been asking the question

Are we sure I didn't read it because I was worried that they were just bearing the lead having everyone click it and be like, haha He is yeah, so I didn't click it didn't click it, but but the headline worked. I'm gonna assume. He's not yeah 60% chance that he is still an elite quarterback, which means that he's actually not yeah in Illinois He's polling as not an elite yet. Yeah, he hasn't shown up in Wisconsin in a while. That's true. That's our Pennsylvania Yes, all right We have to finish up the show a Monday reading that whoo boy. It is a doozy ready for it. Yeah Headline I'm contemplating buying my divorced mom a sex toy as a gift. Is that weird? Hank your reaction initial reaction. Yes. Okay. Well, hold on

Don't judge don't judge. All right. First of all, I'm a 24 year old male I guess I wouldn't be asking this if I were female. Yeah, no shit Like no, I still think that if if you're a female you just go ahead and you do it for your mom Yeah, you know that it's the right thing to do. I still think you'd probably maybe be like, is this weird? So he writes, please don't jump to judgment. There's context. Okay. We're good. Okay context more to this story Yeah, my mom's been divorced with my dad and single for over three years now And they had been very distant for the last three years of their marriage No boyfriend for her at this time. We are Chinese living in China and she's quite a traditional woman

How are you on Reddit if you're in China? Don't they have that blocked out like China blocks Google But they're gonna let you go on to Reddit. Yeah, that seems yeah, that seems counter to so it's safe to assume She's not had sex for quite a long time A good assumption, but I don't know why you're even thinking about this Yeah, it was Chinese Valentine's Day a few days ago and I bought my girlfriend a lilo Sona clitoris stimulator And she likes it tonight It just crossed my mind that anyone with a clitoris would appreciate it. Yeah, anyone So I just blurted it out animals like when was he just sitting at the dinner table? Yeah, he's just like, oh shit

I you came, you know who else has a clit my mom Because he's so matter-of-fact about it. He's like this is pleasurable for clitoris. It's it's one plus one equals two Yes, you have a clit. I have the lean at lilo Sona clit stimulator. Let's make a match Yeah, it's like a perfect puzzle fit So I just blurted it out and asked my girlfriend should I gift my mom one of these I live far away from home and only go back once or twice a year that okay That now it makes sense because you imagine if you lived at home, you're not getting you're You're not getting a little like pocket rocket for your mom

Yeah, because anytime you hear a buzzing sound you're gonna assume that that's what it is Yeah, the electric toothbrush like oh, that's my mom using the lilo clit stimulator again My phone's not on vibrate And I just wish my mom to be happy healthy sexually liberated and awakened even though or especially She's almost in her menopause age. Okay that now we're going too much information. No, but I think this is a good son I think so too. He's he's he's lost, but he's a good son. He's hearts in the right place her clitoris Yes, and a lilo doesn't look so on the nose So it didn't seem to be a horrible idea when I said it

Of course, I would have a talk with my mom about it before I get her Yeah, that will be yeah, you have the talk. Hey mom. Listen. I was thinking about your clit and I have no Hey mom, I was I was thinking about your clit after I was thinking about my girlfriend's clit Yeah, so my girlfriend came real hard on her clit and I was thinking about that clit and then it well I was like wait, maybe my mom could not too. All right, so so wait wait wait So it at least in his defense. He's not getting he's not going out and like getting a mold Made of his own dick and giving it to his mom. Yes, like he's making the responsible classy decision

He could have gotten a lot weirder than this gotten the one that has like the the butts the butt plug and the Okay, and then the like thing that the tickler the tickler. Yeah, he's just getting like it's no different than buying your mom a tuba lipstick Yeah, yeah, right or like a pair of a nice pair of orthopedic shoes Right and this guy's mind serves the exact same function. Yeah as a vibrator good office chair. Yeah, exactly Posture mom. Okay, so my girl up straighter if you're if you're busting a grape my girlfriend However, had a quite a big reaction to it. I'm shocked that it's still your girlfriend first of all But here here were her points against this one. I'm interested. She called the idea creepy and gross fair To she made an analogy and asked me what I would think if she asked me whether it's a good idea to buy her dad a fake

Pussy. Yeah, also fair. This is what guys do now Just I'm a forloko Three she thinks it's super arrogant of me to assume my mom doesn't have the ability to pleasure herself Women can pleasure themselves without a toy. I don't think she does or Does it enough based on my knowledge about her? That's a good point. You just gas lit your mom's pussy Yeah, well, I don't have gas lit but you just say that when you don't when you just confuse you just throw it in there No, what it is this lady is gatekeeping. Yeah, keeping her boyfriend's mom's clit Yes, and

She does bring up kind of a good point Which is like why do you assume that like a robot can do the job better than than just the human hand or What you could do just to like suddenly help your mom get the message Buy her a bunch of stuff that she can use to fuck herself with yeah, like over and over again. Hey mom Here's a cucumber. You know what I got you that banana. Yeah, I fucking in the grocery store Why don't you start by maybe like upgrading her? Shower her her shower like, you know her shower head shower Yeah, maybe get some more, you know pressure coming out of there then we'll see where we go. Yeah, all right four

One only buys sex toys for someone they want to fuck or is fucking also fair point Not necessarily. Well, yeah, I guess if you're gonna go on like an Amazon wish list for your favorite porn star You yeah, it's not always because you want to fucking No, it's not always because you want to fuck them. You just want to be a good follower of theirs Yeah, you don't want to feel intimately connected them because you've watched them have sex Yes, and if you're following them on Twitter, they're doing an emotional labor service that you're taking advantage of yeah So you can platonically very platonically buy them a mold of your own penis and To go further with this you actually kind of have a relationship with your favorite porn star because you're probably commenting on every

Instagram being like you look so hot. Yeah when you wear that exactly so she is she relies on you for your support Yeah, five I lack the basic common sense and she has to reavow evaluate me now as a person I think five was pretty much the big one there. Yeah, you know, like one through four We're just basic things five was hey, we're gonna break up soon That was a lot of words to just be like my girlfriend thinks I'm a weirdo. Yes, because I want to fuck my mom All right, so he finishes my parents never had the talk with me. We never talked about sex ever This is not something Edipal this comes from me attempting to help my mom with her physical and psychological health

I'm no longer afraid to talk about sex with her. I reflect This is me recognizing my mom as a sexual being and just want her to be happy and enjoy herself This guy is thinking way too much about this shit that being said I see what my girlfriend is saying I'm not blind to how strange it seems for a man to recognize his mom has a clit and also possibly hasn't had an orgasm in years But maybe I'm a jit Maybe I'm just a bit past getting embarrassed for that. How do you look at this? I think the ending you kind of summed the whole thing. Yeah, the fact that she said that you're a weirdo You know what? I don't think that this girl is right for this guy. Nice the overhead nice

Yeah, I told you over to bed. Yeah, I'm over fire back. I'm on fire. Yeah, this Yeah, you're weird you you you basically could have just Skipped everything and said hey my girlfriend broke up with me read it post My girlfriend broke up with me because I bought I tried to buy my mom a clip blaster Anyone got a new favorite porn star I can look up. Yeah, that really could have just been the post Yeah, and there's no question that they can be better served with the format of like my 33 in like I just loved that format. Yeah, it was 24. Yeah, it's like my 24. I'm mom 53 f like I love any any like question that you have out there if you post it in the reddit format

It's always like way way better to read. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. All right. That is our show Banger of a show Thank you. Thanks Hank for waking me up and getting me mad again. That actually was it was we didn't do Smelling salts tonight. Mm-hmm. We're out. We actually need someone. Oh, I've got no, I've got some I took I took some morning bar yesterday Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, I don't know. Not a drug. I totally legal dude. You're just banging smelling I was banging some nose torque. Yeah at the bar. All right, drug guy. All right You know what you can do is you can hold it up to your eyes, too, and it stings the eyes. Yeah, we know a drug guy Love you guys. I didn't know that

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