Pardon My Take - Packers HC Matt LaFleur, We Riot + Mount Rushmore Of Magic Johnson's Favorite Things

Episode Date: August 14, 2019

Hard Knocks episode 2 happened and we were forced to semi riot because they kind of sort of addressed Antonio Brown helmetgate (2:28 - 8:21). We have secured 2 of the helmets AB is looking for and offer them to him for a simple trade (8:21 - 11:53). Dak Prescott is a master negotiator (11:53 - 15:41). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (15:41 - 30:35). Mt Rushmore of things off Magic Johnson's list of things he likes for his 60th birthday (30:35 - 38:34). Packers HC Matt LaFluer joins the show to talk about getting the Green Bay job, his relationship with Aaron Rodgers, whether or not he's scared of Khalil Mack, and coming up under Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay (38:34 - 66:12). Segments include hurt or injured Andrew Luck, PMT sports biz minute, way to stay relevant baseball, thoughts and prayers A-Rod got robbed, and a special edition of Guys in Labor to talk Unions You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have Green Bay Packers head coach, Matt LaFleur, little training camp bonus for the people. We went up to Green Bay, kind of a dump. We talked to Matt LaFleur about coaching Aaron Rodgers. They call it title town for a reason, folks.

Training his job, new coach, tearing his ACL. Is he scared of Clio Mack? Answers, yes. We also have Magic Johnson, Mount Rushmore of Magic Johnson's top 60 list for an honor of him turning 60. Only Magic Johnson could do this. So we're going to break it down, give you our Mount Rushmore picks off of his list. We also have Hot Seat Cool Throne and a special edition of Guys on Chicks, Guys on Labor.

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if you didn't listen to the Monday show. On Friday, Big Cat and I tweeted basically at the exact same time, like literally at the exact same time, that if they don't show Antonio Brown complaining about his helmet, faking the new helmet, the whole helmet-gate situation on hard knocks, then we write. And we kind of painted ourselves into a corner, and we're not sure if he actually complained enough to warrant a riot on this show. You sent out a Google Calendar that just kept on popping up every five minutes. We're watching the show live in the studio. We're actually five minutes late for the riot.

Five minutes late for the riot, but I was like, what do I have at 11 o'clock on a Tuesday? Oh yeah, riot if they don't talk about Antonio Brown helmet-gate. Hank tentatively accepted the calendar invites. I wrote maybe because we might riot, but they did talk about it. So we have to decide. I vote like a half a riot. Fuck this. Fuck that. Yeah, do that, do that.

Alright, PFT's throwing some shit off his little corner over there. Alright, that's some good rioting. You feel good? Kick that skateboard. Kick it. There you go. Okay, so we rioted. Riot complete. That was a riot.

Hey, we never make promises we don't keep on this show ever. That was me throwing something. Don't get out of control. You just threw a coaster. So yeah, they sort of talked about it. Antonio Brown, I think the problem was he wasn't there. He wasn't there for most of it. So they didn't really talk at home.

They didn't have a camera on the show to disgusting feet and them talking about circumcising his feet was weird, which was hot. Was very weird guy. So all in all, decent, decent hard knocks, not what we wanted because we wanted some real juicy Antonio Brown. We wanted John Gruden sitting in his office being like, where the hell is this guy and flipping out? But you know what we did get was John Gruden talking a lot about Nathan

Peterman. That was nice. Nathan Peterman versus Mike Glennon. Yeah. So awesome backup battle. And the best part about John Gruden talking about Peterman is he just follows every sentence with the word man. Yeah.

Like, I love football, man. But when he's talking about Peterman, you get a double man. Yeah. He's like, I like this kid Peterman, man. Yeah. And he kept on saying that he sucks, but saying he loves him. He was like, Nathan Peterman, you're going so slow. My life is running out of lifespan.

That was a direct quote. And Mike Glennon, I don't know. I said it out loud while we were watching. I don't know how I thought for any moment in my life that Mike Glennon was the answer or quarterback for the Bears or for any team for that matter. Right. That's a pretty big indictment of the Chicago Bears right there. Yeah.

Like Ryan Pace, great job. Did you have some teams coached scouting him or what? At one point you were like, Mike Glennon's our guy. I remember he threw out the first pitch at Wrigley and I was like, this guy. I don't know. He could do it. This long ass neck. Uh-huh.

But yeah, he threw a couple. When you get out intercepted by Nathan Peterman, I think we talked about this on Monday. It's just a terrible look. You can't have that happen. Nathan Peterman is the interception guy and then you go out and beat him on that. Peterman, man, threw a pretty clean game. He did. He had that scramble for 50 yards.

Yep. Glennon had two bad interceptions. Real bad. I think, I think John Gruden's falling in love with Peterman, man. He already was in love with him. He was in love with him at the draft. Yeah. Yep.

My other big takeaway was Sean McVeigh is the original piss boy. Yes. Well, Gruden was the piss boy. And he made. But then he called Sean McVeigh the piss boy when McVeigh was working for him in Tampa. Such a hilarious interaction. A young Sean McVeigh, probably 23, 24 years old. And John Gruden just grilling him on whether he loves football or not.

He's like, but do you love it? Like, you love watching it, but do you love it? You can watch football. You can hear everyone talk about it, but do you love it? And Sean McVeigh is like, yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think I love football. Yeah.

I'm in. But yeah, it was cool seeing them like meet at midfield. And then Sean McVeigh, not sure whether or not to do his big Gruden impression or to like dial it down because he was around Gruden. Because I think he got outgrudened. Yes. When they were meeting and they were saying, what's up? Yeah.

Which is to be expected. I mean, like that's the whole teacher mentor relationship. Shout out Jonathan Abram realizing that he looked like an idiot in the first week and toning it down a little. I said that out loud. I was like, listen, if he's the same way week two, then this is just who he is and it's going to be really annoying. But he, everyone has the right to look bad on camera once or twice and then realize,

oh, maybe I shouldn't just like blow guys up in the middle of the field when we're not even having pads on and then laugh in Gruden's face when he tells me not to do that. Maybe I shouldn't just keep pushing and prodding about the pronunciation of salmon. That's not great TV. Every guy gets one week where they're allowed to look shitty on television. We used ours up a couple years ago, but you have to learn and you have to move on. Yeah. Derek Carr also not as awkward.

Felt like he, they tone that down as well. Yeah. That had a lot to do with Mike Lennon standing behind him most of the time. It's tough to look more awkward than Mike Lennon. Yeah. But overall it was decent. I don't know. I just feel like this hard knock season is it's never going to live up to the hype, especially

with everything that's going. So next week, they have a chance, a chance to make it really, really cool if Antonio Brown stuff is actually talked about. Are we right? Or are we right? That we're going to do it. Right. We're absolutely going to do it next week.

So what's going on with Antonio Brown? You have like some things going. I do have a couple of things cooking with Antonio Brown. So he obviously has been sitting out because of the feet and because he doesn't have his helmet. His helmet is too old to be recertified. It's like 10 years old. Okay.

And so they won't let him. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, exactly. We talked about it a little bit earlier, but so he's been looking for the exact same model, just one that happens to be made within the last 10 years so we can get it recertified. Now thanks to AWL Nation, we have tracked down two of these helmets in his size. One is from a fun belt player.

Okay. We're a fun belt player. And the other, I'm not exactly sure what college is from, but it's the same. It's the, the exact same model that he wears, the exact same size that he wears. And I think the face masks are the same too. So he's been trying to find one of these and he said that if we can find one and he can get one, he'll trade a Raiders used helmet. And we don't want that.

We don't want that. We want, Hank had a great idea. We will trade Antonio Brown right now. If you, everyone tweeted Antonio Brown and tell him, these guys have two helmets ready to go in return. We want you to do a touchdown dance for us. Yes. A pardon my take touchdown dance.

That's all we ask. I don't know what that touchdown dance looks like. Oh, we got to figure it out. My neck, my back, and then grab his crotch than his butt. What if he, what if he goes up to Derek Carr and starts eating his butt? Yeah. I would accept that. There we go.

You got to simulate ass eating. Get right in the muffler of the car there. Yeah. You get simulated ass eating. You get both helmets right in the tailpipe. If you don't want to do that, we'll give you one helmet for, uh, if you wear a pardon my take fanny pack and it gets on hard knocks. Oh, what if we made, what if we made like a skin cover for an iPhone and he did a Joe

Horn? Oh, that'd be nice. That'd be pretty sick. Honestly, just get us a lunch with Mark Davis. Yes. Actually, that is, that's it. Yeah. So either Derek Carr's ass or P.F.

Chang's Mark Davis. I don't think those are crazy office. I don't think so either. I mean, I think they're both pretty good. We're, we're being nice. I mean, it's a, it's a great helmet. Do you want this helmet or not Antonio? Because the fact is, if you don't have this helmet and you don't play this year, I think

you're walking away from like $20 million. Yeah. And all the touchdown dances. Would you rather have $20 million or eat Derek Carr's ass? Just simulate it. You don't have to do it. Like, and I'll actually, you know what, I'm going to throw in a little extra. I want someone to fake hit a home run like Christian Gellich and then he eats the ass.

That's the Alfred Morris touchdown. Yes. I like that one. That's home run. And then they're watching and they're like, well, and they give a little shit, guess we got to do it. And then they go and do it. You know, it'd be great if Derek Carr could also do the salute, the mile high salute while

he was getting his ass eaten. Just like all in all, I think that's a totally reasonable, totally reasonable or not flaggable or general styles with love is love. Mark Davis. Yes. Pretty easy. You decide. You decide.

I can't decide which one I'd rather see or do. I think both work. I think we'd be happy with both. Yeah. Either one's fine. What about you, Hank? I want to see the ass. You want to see the ass eating touchdown?

Okay. All right. Well, he can do it. What can Brown do for you? He can do it. Let's go. Everyone tell him we got two helmets for him. Two.

Two. You know, it would be perfect because that that weirdo feel that they have in Oakland if you literally did it on third base. Oh, and Derrick Carr maybe sat down in the dirt beforehand and stood up, got real muddy with it. Yeah. Okay. Now we're getting a little out of control.

That's okay. I think this is, it's called anchoring the negotiation. We put this out and he's like, tell you what, I'll do it except for the muddy but good segue. You didn't even mean to segue. We have to talk about Dak Prescott being the greatest negotiator of all time. Yeah. Because there was news that came out that he wants $40 million immediately debunked. But I'm basically going to just assume he wants $40 million, boom, negotiation anchored.

So Jerry offered $30 million. Now this is all from, I think Jane Slater reported it and she's very close with the Cowboys team. So I'm guessing this is coming from Jerry or somebody close to him, that they offered him $30 million and he countered with $40 million. So I'm not sure if he actually came back with $40 million, but like you, I choose to believe like, yeah, why not ask for $50, Dak? Right.

Just ask for it. Pay him. Right. I think it's going to be an interesting negotiation because Dak Prescott is right on that line. He is that guy who you're like, do we give him a ton of money and you got to go all in. If you got the guy that you think might be your quarterback, you got to pay him $45 million. But you also have the problem with the Cowboys have like, they actually have a good young core that they have to keep paid.

And I think they just paid a couple of guys. I know they just paid to Marcus Lawrence. Like you got to pay Zeke. You got to pay a Mario Cooper. So I know that everyone keeps tweeting. I think there's some people out there like Dax, not as bad as people make it out to seem. And I don't think he is. That's worth 45 million right there.

I don't think he's worth 40 million. And I think that you probably have to sit down and be like, dude, I know that you want this much money, but would you rather this much money or maybe win a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboys, which won't happen, but you got to negotiate that way. As not a Dallas Cowboys fan. I hope they pay Dak as much money as possible. Did you hear 70? Did you hear this?

Yeah. 75. Okay. I think that this is a quote from Jerry Jones today from John Machoda. He was talking about the situation that he's in with Dak, Ezekiel, and Amari. He said, picture you were a driver of a car and you had a wreck and your hand was almost severed off, but you didn't understand your anatomy. You looked down.

Sorry, sorry. I did a Jerry voice. You look down. You're spurtin' blood. You open the door and you run to the woods and you either die bleeding to death or shock. The educated man looks down, knows his anatomy, squeezes and knows his best chance is to wait for help. That's because he's been there a lot and done that.

So I'm squeezing and I'm waiting for help. That's Jerry Jones on contract negotiations. That might be your best impression. Yeah. That was good. That was really good. I love jacking it into my shoes. That was like George Bush, Ross Perot.

I got my comfort. I'm Jerry. Pass me that Johnny Walker blue. We just gave you a comment and you're just like, I'm coming back for more and I'm going to ruin it. I just Johnny Walker blue load into my shoes. All right. So yeah, Dak Prescott, I guess I pay him.

They got to pay everyone. Pay Dak. Pay Zeke. Pay Amari. They should just put it like a bunch of money and be like, you guys figure it out. Yeah. Like here's $90 million. Yeah.

Who wants what? Yeah. Do it. Lock them in a room with $90 million, a pocket knife and a roll of duct tape and just let the let the chips fall where they may. Or have it be that big Salvation Army Bowl and have it be a big bowl of cereal like that. Okay. And then there's money at the bottom.

Okay. And whatever. Wet dollar bills. And whatever you don't take out. Goes to Salvation Army. Yes. Charity. Right.

How great. How great are you going to be? Right. Just have them jump in like it's double there. Yeah. I like that. You guys decide. And then loser gets slimed.

Yep. Okay. Problem solved. All right. We should do hot seat, cool throne before we get to our Mount Rushmore and Matt LaFleur. If you want to watch Matt LaFleur, if you want to watch Matt LaFleur, you can do it on barcelgold.com slash PMT. Or watch the riot.

Or watch the riot. The riot was lit. It got fucking crazy in here. We, it was, Jake got a little nervous. Did you pee your pants, piss boy? Get out of here. Yeah. I trashed.

I just rioted a little bit right there. I'm sorry. It's got a little residual riot. A little extra riot. It's tough to get out of this system. All right. So hot seat, cool throne, Hank. Why don't you start?

My hot seat is Michael Porter Jr. You guys remember him? Remember he's in the NBA? Oh yeah, I do. Has yet to play a minute. His spine has made a dust. And today there is a conference. Adam Silver was talking to Denver Nuggets and he tweeted on a picture of Silver on stage,

not realizing that Adam Silver's phone number, his office phone number, and his email were on the screen. So he basically tweeted it out to the entire world. He doxxed him. He doxxed him. His cell phone was on there too. Yeah. Cell phone, office phone, and email.

What happened? What do you mean? Did people just blow him up? I'm sure. They were like, hey, Adam, let's make, I don't even know what idea, stupid idea is going around to NBA reddit right now. Yeah. I got, let's see, I think I actually wrote it down here earlier.

You want to try to call him? Yeah. Sure. Okay, let's try to call Adam Silver. I'm assuming it's changed at this point. I'm sure, yeah. We'll find out. It's probably going to go straight to voicemail.

You never know. Yeah, that's got to be a tough, like, you've never played a minute in the league. Yeah. All right. It disconnected. Smart man. You know what? That actually pissed me off because Adam Silver, like, he got doxxed and that sucks.

But you know he had someone deal with all that, you know? He didn't have to call Verizon. Spinzone, do you think he actually planted that, like he was cool with being doxxed because he's the accessible commissioner? Ooh. Maybe he's got something to hide. So he deliberately got his phone. So that people aren't sniffing around the other stuff that he's doing.

Phone number. Interesting. He smashed it. Interesting. Wow. Okay. Okay. Just saying.

It is a very convenient reason to smash your phone. Yeah. And smash it. Yeah. Smash it right on stage. My other hot seat are all the people out there, all the AWOs who I'm sure thought that drinking bleach would cure cancer or autism. Whoa.

What happened? The FDA came out and said for sure that drinking bleach will not cure cancer or autism. Okay. Good to know. Okay. Good to know. We got that on the list. All the people listening.

Whoo. You have to inject it. That was tough. All right. We had a bad, bad phase there. And then my cool throne is for Loco. Which is similar to injecting bleach. Yep.

Well, now they came out with a spike seltzer. So for all the people, you know, on the beach, whatever, they've also come out and they came out with a four Loco sex toy. Like they went from being banned, banned from the world to all of a sudden, they're back. All right. We'll talk about them now. Four Loco dildo. Here's the thing.

It was a four Loco flashlight. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure it was fake. Oh yeah, that makes sense. For dudes who just pound so much for Loco, they can't talk to women. Just can't stop pounding it. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that the four Loco thing is fake. I'm very woke on this because there was no like link to the product whatsoever. It was a, it was a Photoshop that four Loco put out there of four Loco spike seltzer. And it said like the ultimate or the most extreme hard seltzer, something like that. It was 14% alcohol. Whoa. And here's why I think it's fake is because if you're going to make something 14% alcohol, why not just make it 20?

True. Is there anybody out there that would drink a 14% for Loco that wouldn't drink it 20% why not make it 50 and have it just be liquor? Hardest seltzer in the universe is a hard tagline. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I'm not, I'm not so sure that it's real.

Oh, so that's how it was. Like it's the hardest seltzer. You're going to get so hard. Here's this flashlight. Fuck it. Basically. That was smart. I just did the marketing for it for a little.

I'll send, I'll invoice you later. Fuck it. I'm having a four Loco. Yeah. Damn. This hard seltzer will make you so hard. You're going to want to come in this piece of plastic. The hardest seltzer.

It's the coolest thing you can do. You ever go out for a night out with your boys, drink so much for Loco, you just want to fuck a tube. That's the thing is if you actually finish a for Loco, you're probably not going to be able to fuck. Right. So the flashlight never gets. But the flashlight never complains.

The flashlight never gets used. The flashlight's never like, does this happen often? That's true. You're good. That's very true. The flashlight just is cool. I was actually saying this is a great way for the flashlight to retain its value. It's like a Star Wars figurine that you never take out of the package.

That's right. That's right. Good job for Loco. We're truly guys, by the way. Yeah. Let's just throw that out. Claws down. Yeah.

Truly. Truly the best. Is that it, Hank? That's it. All set. Okay. My first hot seat is old school tough ass football because Vic Fangio has banned hazing. He's banned rookie haircuts.

He's banned all that stuff. He's been singing at Bronco's training camp. Nice. Yeah. This is like way, way back old school. We're going so old school. They didn't even know what hazing was. They're just like, you need to respect your fellow man.

Yeah. Old school. Old testament school. No, like I'm talking like 1903 Harvard Yale where they just bash brains together with no helmets. At old school. Where people died. Yeah.

On the field. Instead of cutting their hair. You don't have time to haze when you're not going to live past 35. That's a good point. That's a very good point. But yeah. It's old old school. But it also, it gave people a reason to tweet out the picture of Tim Tebow when he got

the monkey. Perfect. Love it. So I love to see that. I think that you should be allowed to give one rookie a monkey. Yes. Yes. I agree.

That's not hazing. That's a team builder. That's funny. Big difference. It's different. If it's a funny, it's not hazing. My other hot seat. Yeah.

If the people that are doing the hazing. Are laughing. Think that it's funny. Yes. That is. It's just a classic. Legally, that's not hazing. If everyone's laughing except for the guy who's getting hazed.

Correct. My other hot seat is shitting. Okay. Brazil's fascist president says that people should avoid pooping every day. They should poop every other day now if we want to save the planet. So that's going to be tough for me. I'm out. Especially, yeah.

And for that reason, I'm not voting for the fascist in Brazil. I don't know if he's ever been to a Brazilian steakhouse. But it's that. Instant. Impossible. Instant. Meat sweats. Yes.

Yes. You can't help but shit within the hour. Remember the one we went to in Vegas? I was a woman from behind and said, ma'am, yeah. I wasn't going to tell that story. That's exactly why you're bringing it up. No, I was just going to ask if you remember that meal we shared. I'm saying, okay, whatever.

Yes, I do remember it. It was good. Wasn't it? It happens not irregularly that I'll be sitting at a bar and somebody will approach me from behind. Be like, excuse me, ma'am, and that's only natural because I've got the long hair and a great ass. I'm sorry.

Oh, man. All right. What else? Most importantly, my great ass. My cool throne is the Fat Cats at Direct TV. Because this is when the Sunday ticket bill hits. It was this week. Shit.

I didn't even know that. Yeah. That's how they get you. You forget year by year. Hey, fun fact. Football is back now though. Yeah. Football is back.

Fun fact. We were supposed to have Direct TV in this office. That was a fun fact. We moved in three months ago. I had a conversation too with one of the tech guys. I don't think we're getting it. No, I don't think so either. I think the whole plan of watching every game here is gone.

Which is insane. That sucks. So we're building a gambling cave. So fellas, where are we going to watch the games? Buffalo Wildlings. Yeah. I guess so. Busters.

I get busters. Oh, busters. Yeah. We got to do one Sunday at Busters. Yeah. Tell you what. We'll alternate Bdubs and Busters. We'll do a watch party at Busters.

Yeah. Busters. Give us some fucking cash, bro. Yeah, please. Come on. My other cool throne is Deep Fakes. You love Busters. What'd you say?

Or some tokens. Yeah. That'd be great if we did an ad deal with Busters and they just gave us tokens. I'd take it. Yeah, absolutely. 50,000 tokens. I'd take my payment from Busters in tokens and in like little cheap key chains. I'll forego my $75,000 we get for every single episode a part of my take each and convert

it all into Buster coins. That's worth like 75,001 Buster coins. Yes, exactly. It's a better bang for your buck. All right. What'd you do? My other cool throne is Deep Fakes. Oh, yeah.

Did you guys see this video? No. It was a video from, I think it was Bill Hader on, was he on Jay Leno show? One of them. I was on one of those shows a while ago. Yeah. He was getting interviewed and they seamlessly turned his face into Tom Cruise's face as he was doing a Tom Cruise impression and then into Seth Rogan's face as he was doing

a Seth Rogan impression and then back and then back and then back and then back and back and forth like five times to the point where now I'm afraid now I'm basically ready to admit that the robots have won and so just like think of me as one of the good ones robots when you do take over the earth because I'm on your side now. Okay. So I'm thinking of it more glass half full. Oh, yeah. I'm talking about Marshall Advisors this year.

We're getting. Well, I'm not even thinking about that. We're already we're working on it. You think what I'm thinking? What? Oh, there you go. I do like that part. That's really good.

Yeah. That's really good. I love it. Deep Fakes. All right. So we're back. All right. My hot seat.

Go Deep Fakes. My hot seat is Fredo. You can't say Fredo anymore. So Chris Cromo was videotaped. Thank you for remembering Cromo. Everyone thinks that he's got a new nickname. No, it's still Cromo. Who is Chris Cromo?

Yeah. He's a guy on CNN. LeVar Ball. Vox. He's on CNN. LeVar Ball. CNN flipped his game on him and said people call you Cromo. Yeah.

OK. Cromo. So he was I don't know. He got in a fight with some guy. He went real aggro and he said calling me Fredo is like using the N word and for Italians and I don't I didn't think that. But now we can't say Fredo. I thought just the N word was the Italian version of calling people like that's Ryan's

love. Right. It's Fredo. It's Fredo. So you cannot call anyone by the name of a fictional character that's a total fuckup and went against the family. I did like how upset that he got though. Like he was ready to fight.

Very upset. I love that. Fredo. I wish he had fought actually. You know what? The more I think about the more I don't like that he got that upset because if you're going to get that pissed off and not fight then what are we doing here. He was acting like Sonny.

Then what are we. Yeah. He wasn't afraid. Don't call him Sonny. Yeah. That's right. Instead of an F word. Yeah.

It's acting like a real big pussy. So that's in the. That's not like the. No. Not like the misogynistic term. No. The guy from the Sopranos. No.

But he's he fucking ratted everyone out. Yeah. He got killed in season two. Right. That's the guy he was acting like. Right. But that's also a slur. Big pussy.

Yeah. Who finds big pussy. Dude. He ratted. I'm not talking about selling each. I'm not talking about the genitals. I'm talking about. Right.

That is a slur. Because Fredo went against the family so did big pussy. So we can't say big pussy anymore. No. So we'll call every Italian guy Polly Walnuts. OK. Sounds good. Everyone loves Polly.

All right. My cool throne. I got two. One is. Well actually it's me both ways. Me the. Myself as the anti-vaxxer. My son's getting vaccinated tomorrow.

First vaccinations. That must be very tough. I'm out. I'm out on the anti-vaxxer. Sorry. Sorry. I know people were like waiting with bated breath hoping that I would join Jenny McCarthy and Kristen Cavallieri and other people who have high-minded individuals that are cutting

edge of science. I'm not. So this is officially putting the nail into the coffin of your friendship with Jay then. Probably. Yeah. This is it. Probably. That was it.

That was it. Well it's the needle in my son's arm. The needle. It ended our relationship. And then my other is myself as well because I had to go to Home Depot. Home Depot. Well listen this. You guys will like this because I think this is relatable.

I had to go to Home Depot. I successfully went to Home Depot and got what I needed without asking anyone. And there's no better feeling in the world. You feel like the manliest man that's ever walked earth when you can walk into Home Depot. It took me a while. Yeah. I was going to say were you stubborn about it or did you? Oh I was very stubborn about it.

Very very stubborn. It took me way too long. But still doing that thing where you just cannot ask because you know you can ask in Home Depot people they know right away they're like oh yeah yeah back you know back left corner of aisle 17 but I didn't ask and I successfully did it took me about 25 minutes to find the wood glue but I did it. You know what the best feeling is when you're doing that and somebody else asks you where something is and you can tell them.

Yeah. You help them out in Home Depot. You're like oh I know you. And then on the way back you're like what are you building. No. And then you pretend to know how to help them. Yeah. I did that a couple times.

It's the best. Gave some really bad advice. It's a big time like alpha off when you go into Home Depot. Uh huh. You gotta be watching yourself. I get the feeling that there are people that just walk around Home Depot all day waiting to be asked those questions that don't actually work there. Yeah.

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Uh okay. Mount Rushmore. So this one we're doing a little different. It is the Mount Rushmore. So Magic Johnson is turning 60 tomorrow. He today. Happy birthday Magic. Happy birthday Magic.

He for his 60th birthday decided to release a few lists. Four lists, his top 60 favorites and he did Magic's top 60 films, Magic's top 60 athletes that turn entrepreneurs. Yep. Magic's top 60 places to travel, Magic's top 60 TV shows. Now he released these lists. You'd think, Hey, I'd put my favorite show at the top. No, then you wouldn't know Magic because he released them in alphabetical order except

for the Godfather was number one of the movies. LeBron got to him on that one. Yeah. LeBron. And also, I don't know if you saw the top 60 shows, three Stooges, the three Stooges was number two. Yeah. He moved that up to second place.

Left 21 Jump Street in first place because it's a numeral, but yeah, he's a big the three Stooges fan. Yes. So what we're going to do is this is going to be, you can use any of the four lists. We're going to do our Mount Rushmore of selections off of Magic Johnson's four lists. And the wrinkle is in the spirit of Magic's list, we have to do it alphabetically. So each list, each of our lists has to be alphabetical. So the top is going to be, it's going to be interesting when we get to the bottom of

the list. You ready Hank? I'm ready. Because you're first. Oh shit. Yeah. So you really ready? He had like his TV and movie choices were really bad, something really bad, but he had

Chappelle show on there. Shit. Great show of all time. Fuck. Undeniably the number one pick. I think, I think we all had that as number one. Chappelle show is really good. Yep.

It's a strong one. Damn it. Also, I realized this, but making your rankings in alphabetic order is a great way to never leave Beyonce off the list and never piss off the beehive. She's always going to be near the top. That sucks. All right. That was going to be my first pick.

God damn it. All right. I'll go with my first pick. I'll go with the Bahamas. Great place to visit. Okay. The Bahamas. It was just there on vacation.

There you go. Of course you were. A couple times. Bahamas are nice though. Yeah. Beautiful place. Beautiful place. PFT you have two.

Okay. I'm going to go with Amsterdam. Good pick. Not the drugs part. Yep. Definitely the drug part. The life experience part. The museum's part.

On drugs. Jake, make sure it's written not. Parentheses not the drugs part. Number two, I'm going to go with A-Rod. Also not the drugs part. Okay. Besides the drugs part. You're really hitting the ace.

Yeah. Hammering the ace. You got to get to him. All right. I got to do. I'm really bad at the fucking alphabet. You didn't do it this in advance? No I did but I kind of went all over the place.

Did I? Did I conk A-Rod from you? No, no, no. You did not. Trouble in paradise. Oh yeah. Okay. In this case, we'll get to it in a minute.

All right. What does that have to do with Mel Rushmore? Yeah. I just, I'm worried about his net worth right now. He doesn't shit where he is. As an entrepreneur, he lost $500,000. He got stolen. All right.

I'll go my second pick. Good fellas. Okay. You had to make sure that was. I had to make sure it was tough. I was having trouble there. Okay. Good fellas.

I got two. Yeah. Django Unchained. Okay. Great film. There's a word Fredo a lot in there. Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Good pick.

Okay. I'll go with my third pick. I'll go MJ Michael Jordan. Okay. Salad pick. Yup. My third. I'm going to go Ray Allen.

Woo. Yeah. I think we all know why. I think we all know why. And my fourth pick, I'm going to go with the wire. Oh. Because if you're a sports writer, you have to have some sort of inclusion of the wire in every single thing that you do.

Specifically for today, I'm going to go season two of the wire. Oh, nice. Nice. That was all my knowledge of the unions was from season two of the wire. I'll finish mine with the sprinkles. Easy. Easy fourth pick for me. All right.

Hank, what's your fourth? Maui. Maui. Maui. Good one. Loading up on beaches. Forget Maui. Get those beaches.

I've never actually been there, but I want to go. It's on my vacation destination list. Why do you want to get a Maui so much? I just heard Hawaii is a great place to go. It is. It truly is. And I just love the way in the rock when Sean Conner says, forget Maui. It's great.

Okay. That really stuck with you. Yeah. What did we miss? John Madden was a miss. I mean, him having triple X. Yeah, John Madden was on there. Him having triple X as a top 60 movie is like, he must have only seen 60 movies in his life.

I chose to believe that that one was just porn. He wasn't talking about triple X. He just like, he could, he should have just written X hams. I haven't been thinking of the Fast and Furious movies like triple X. I got a question. Stunner. What has Kishan Johnson done as an entrepreneur? He's on TV and on the radio.

Okay. All right. That plays. That plays. Tony Hawk was one that was caught my eye. Also, here's an interesting thing. At number 31 in his list of Magic's top 60 films, he has The Born Identity. So he moved that one around too.

Yeah. He did. And that's a classic magic pick right there. The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Way to date yourself there, Magic. The Oprah Winfrey Show. Pandermuch. Did he put his own show in there?

No, he didn't. The Magic Hour. That was a great show. Also, a lot of these entrepreneurs, unless they're secret entrepreneurs, what are these people doing? Like what you said with Kishan Johnson, I feel like a lot of these players just retired and are golfing. I think if you have a podcast, you're an entrepreneur.

That's it. That's it. We're entrepreneurs. Because Dale Earnhardt's on there. Oh, fuck. I didn't realize he had Brady on there. That's a huge mess. Wow.

Wow. Also, Ty Law. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Isaiah Thomas is an entrepreneur in sexual harassment law. He's a job creator because he freaks out so many female co-workers that they're a lot of open jobs. Let's see.

What other weird movies? Yeah. Why is Ray Allen a job? Why is he an entrepreneur? I have no idea. I have no idea. He has a book. I feel like he exclusively golfs.

Yeah. He has a book. So I guess that counts. Hank makes a good point, though. If you spend enough time on the golf course, people just assume that you're an entrepreneur. Get a podcast. You must be a CEO of something. Yeah.

You're an entrepreneur. There it goes. All right. Yeah. I don't know what else he has on here that a lot of just weird things. I feel like I know what type of fan he is, but then he'll throw in a curveball. He's got scandal on there. He's got the Matrix.

Also, here's what's weird about his top 60 TV shows. He has Judge Judy. I should have picked that. God damn it. Judge Judy, Judge Mathis, and the People's Court. And he's a big daytime court judge. And Law and Order. And Law and Order SVU.

Yeah. He hammered that. He hammered it. Tom, I'm sorry. Actually, the more I look at this, the more the list is just really well done. Yeah. Really, really well done. Yeah, Hank.

You're going to be living with that for a while. Yeah. For a while. Tom Brady. Damn. That sucks, Hank. Julian. Play this part for Tom.

I know. He's listening. Let him know that Julian. Hank has forgotten about him. Yeah. He had Tom Brady. He had him easily. He could have picked him at any point pretty much.

Right? Yeah. He had him. He was honorable. He wasn't even. That's true. I didn't even go through the list. Yeah.

I was just going through the list and realized that I missed it. Damn. That's a tough one. That's on me. All right. Let's get to tell us which ones you think we missed the cut of Magic Johnson's Top 60. You need to. We need to put this out there on the Mount Rushmore like quote board with as little explanation

as possible. Just Magic's favorite things. Yeah. Because it's the lists are so stupid. I think Jake should do some more work. Bahamas Goodfellas, Michael Jordan, and the Sopranos. That makes no sense. You didn't have Bahamas.

Yeah, I did. I thought Hank had Bahamas. No, I did. All these beaches. Yeah. A lot of beach. I think Jake should go through this list and enlist what these entrepreneurs have done post-career.

Yeah. We could use a little. I feel like 35 of them. But you know what? We'll get fucked with that because like Kishan, he's going to be like he has 75 Jamba juices in South Florida and then we're going to look like assholes. So don't do that. Ray Allen's probably getting residual checks from he got game.

Yes. So that counts as a job. 100% is. All right. Let's get to our interview with Matt LaFleur. Did you know on average it takes police 45 minutes to respond to a home security alarm almost an hour when a home security system is triggered? A lot of the time police assume it's a false alarm and the call goes to the bottom of the

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It is Packers coach Matt LaFleur. What guest? A guest? A very special guest. It is a guest. I appreciate that. We're going to get into a lot of stuff but we got to start with the Achilles and the boot that you're wearing.

Get it out of the way. What the hell were you doing going hard on the basketball court over 30 years old? Don't you know better? I don't know better. What move like tore your Achilles? It's pretty embarrassing. No actually we were playing knockout. Oh no.

I will say I was in the final two. Okay. Out of how many? Oh we have a good crew. We had a lot of coaches that play. I mean there's sometimes there's almost 20 guys down there. So I was in the final two but I think I actually air balled the shot. We were playing from the side.

That's the worst. We make it interesting. We play half court knockout. Okay. You were going too hard? Well no I just missed the shot. I went to get a rebound and it felt like somebody hit me in the back of the leg. Yeah.

I went back and of course nobody's around me and I knew I pretty much knew right away what had happened. One of those injuries though that was going to happen no matter what. Like at some point I think that's the most common injury for guys who keep playing basketball after the age of 30 is their Achilles. Yeah no I hear you. It's amazing though how many people I've met that said the same thing happened to them. Yeah.

Does there need to be some sort of contract stipulation for coaches like there are for players like you can't do this in the off season. Keep you in shape. I'd rather have it with me than the players. That's a good point. Are you going to be at all in that walking boot on the sidelines for the off season games? I will be but hopefully you know week one I'll be out of the boot. Okay.

The thing I really want to talk about is that Bears hat. Yeah you see it. I don't like it. I don't like it. You want to get into it right away. Sure. All right so you got the job in January. The schedule came out what in May maybe.

Since May how many times have you woken up in just a sweat being like Khalil Mack, Khalil Mack, Khalil Mack. Yeah Khalil Mack so he is a threat to blow up every play no doubt about it and you better have a plan for him otherwise he can wreck a game. But it's not just Khalil Mack they got a lot of good players on that defense and I mean Hicks is a game wrecker as well and certainly we know the challenge that's in front of us week one. In all seriousness are you excited that it's a rivalry game to start off like or were you

kind of hoping maybe let's throw out the I don't know let's play the box in Tampa Bay week one maybe ease my way into my head coaching career because it is prime time first NFL game rivalry game it's going to be bright lights right away. There's no doubt about it but I will say this about this league you better take every game like you're playing the world champion and if you don't this is a humbling league that will put you down in a hurry so every game is important. Is there any additional pressure knowing that you've got like 50,000 extra owners that you have to respond to did you go to the owners meeting.

I did not go to the owners meeting you know the owners meeting in terms of all the all the fans. Oh yeah no no we had practice so we had team meetings so I couldn't make the owners meeting our fish actually owns the team yeah he's got a share yes he does I've met a lot of owners since I've been in Green Bay he's already putting pressure on you yeah we do we technically are fathers of an owner so our fish does have a stock. So we've talked to your some of your buddies Sean McVay Kyle Shannon have both been on the show they are young head coaches have you felt a little of like the pressure of

okay you're 39 most you know in the NFL history it's usually an older guy gets a head coaching job have you I see you got the stubble with little gray hairs that on purpose. Actually the grays have really been filling in lately yeah that's on purpose though because do you notice it though maybe in the locker room is it hard to people look at you maybe like hey this guy's more my age than coaches I've had in the past you know I don't think so I just try to go and do the best job I can on a daily basis and you know communicate with our players and making sure that you know I hear their concerns and take those into consideration when we're making decisions but ultimately we're always going to make

decisions in the best interest of the team and but I don't think you can put a any type of age on leadership you know I like you said I saw Sean firsthand and I thought he did a as good a job as anybody I've been around in terms of getting the respect and the command from the team. Your beard's much stronger than his like right off the jump I can tell you like that's an alpha beard I actually have to apologize to you because the first time we met was at the combine and Sean McVeigh used me as like a useful idiot to fuck with you a little bit he sent me up to you to introduce myself and then he was like tell me didn't like his play

calling week 17 against the Colts and I was like okay and then I looked at your face and you look so sad and I was like shit you know what Sean just used me as like psychological warfare. Sure. Against you so I'd like to offer you the opportunity what do you want me to just like hit him in the nuts next time I see him. That'd be great. He deserves it.

He deserves it. He used to abuse me when I was an assistant for him so what would he do? What do you mean? What would he do to like you know just so we're pretty close right and so I just think you know you kind of if you're close with people you tend to let your guard down a little bit and can take out some of your frustrations on the ones that you're closest to and because you know they're always going to have your back in the end. Right.

Kyle was the same way. Right. Did Sean McVeigh's photographic memory ever piss you off? I feel like that'd be so annoying to be around. It's pretty ridiculous. Right. His memory is unlike anybody I've ever been around and it's funny because whenever we had team meetings he'd always quiz the guys on just kind of some of the culture stuff

that we'd talk about and as soon as he started asking questions you can hear every notebook in the room opening up and I'm like Sean you're the only guy that can memorize all this stuff man. The rest of us got to write this down because nobody wanted to get embarrassed in front of the team. Yeah. So you go out to Tennessee and you coach with one of our other guys Mike Vrable. Who's a bigger bro?

Mike Vrable or McVeigh? A bigger bro. Yeah. Who's more bro-y? I mean like that's a you got to you got to go with Vrable. It's free. You have to. Yeah.

He's a guy's guy. No but Sean's a guy's guy. What do you mean? Vrable's a guy's dude. No Sean's a guy's dude too. That's my guy. I've been talking about one of my best friends in life. Right.

You guys still keep in touch like pretty closely. I thought you meant more of like who's going to go you know rec shop if somebody's. Yeah. Mike Vrable's that guy. Yeah. He's not. He won't turn anything now. Do you.

Did you guys joke at all about you know obviously you had to have seen the internet ran wild with hey if you had a beer with Sean McVeigh you got a head coaching job. Do you. I mean you saw it right. I would assume. Yeah. I mean like everybody talks about that so it is what it is. Does Sean I mean does Sean kind of make funny like does he ratch you guys because like hey

I'm you know I'm a king maker here. No I think honestly I think he's Sean's a he's a pretty humble guy and I think it's almost embarrassing he's always like stop stop whenever whenever anything like that you know comes up. Yeah. So now you're in charge here this is like your first camp that you're running on your own. I've always wondered like you're trying to get control of this whole team what are your

policies on fighting in camp. No tolerance. There we go. Zero. Zero tolerance. At all. At all. You fight you're out.

You sit out the rest of that practice for the day. Yeah just for the day. You know like and don't get me wrong skirmishes are going to happen. It's just you don't want to see haymakers being thrown especially when it's your own teammate you know you got to protect we always talk about putting the team first and you know taking care of taking care of each other and that's just something that the guys have have done a really good job with throughout camp. Right.

Even if it's against the other team even if like JJ Watt is starting to milk a hip entry a little bit too much. Yeah you know like we had an incident versus Houston where one of our guys got laid out pretty good and our guys came to his defense but there were no punches thrown. Probably smart. Do you so Green Bay obviously is a very unique place and a unique town because it is a small town with just a football stadium in the middle of it. Have you had that experience yet where you're at the grocery store and people will stop you

and you know because you're you're it's not like playing in or coaching in New York or L.A. or Chicago. You are with the people basically every day. Have you had that moment yet. I haven't gone to a grocery store. Oh so you know I'm married right. Yeah no I know but I don't know maybe you have to go get the groceries. I don't know.

You gotta go grab the milk. Yeah yeah no honestly so like the first few months that I lived here I stayed at Lodge Kohler and we have such a fantastic setup here with everything you really need so I'd wake up in the morning I'd walk or I'd drive across the street go to work drive back across street go to bed. I mean that was the extent of it. You know I've been out to restaurants and whatnot but the people here are pretty respectful of your of your privacy.

They're good people here. You call it soda or pop. I call it soda. We got to work on that. I know it's Midwest is probably more pop. It would definitely endear you to to the local community if you just started tossing out a pop every now and then. Also if you gained like 50 pounds.

I can do either. Yeah put on 50 pounds and then you could be a packer coach for life. Oh also. Two more. Is that a prerequisite. I mean you are a little too yeah what are you trying to prove with your weight right now. Like you think you're better than everyone.

It looks kind of sloppy right now because I haven't been able to work out. I know there's probably some muscles under that shirt. Yeah. What are you going to go to the beach. Come on. It is true that the Packers have. I got to get ready for next summer in the long history of coaches that are well insulated for the cold.

Here's two other tips for being a Packers coach since you're new at it in the preseason just tell everybody like the tight end position we're going to really utilize the tight end position this year that happens like every single year in the past like Aaron Rogers finally has his tight end that and also we have a running back this year. If you can just say those two things and prep for the season you're good and we are going to do that. There you go. Tell me about tell me about how I pass the test.

I know why Sean liked you. Tell me about how how the Packers are going to use the tight end position this year. We're going to use utilize them both in the run in the past. Okay. We're going to be a weapon for us. Here's another one. Change your name to Mike. Yeah.

Because the Packers I think it's like maybe 20 games in the last 30 years that has been coached by a guy not named Mike. So you should change your name to Mike. That's my brother's name. So I can't do that. Maybe have your swap swap your brother out. He he coached us. Yeah.

We could do that. He's where is he right now. He's with Kyle in San Francisco. Okay. So he's he might be the guy that you need to bring in here just be like we got a mic on staff. Yeah. We tried to get him.

I've also noticed you guys all the reports coming out of training camp are that you're using the fullback as a weapon this year. Like absolutely. You love Danny Vitale. Yeah. Danny's been awesome. So what is I guess fullback has kind of been phased out of the NFL over the course of the last 10 years.

But there are some teams like Cal's bring it back a little bit in San Francisco. Yeah. Juicy. Yeah. Exactly. How are you guys using it. Very similar. I mean we want to be 21.

We want to be able to run everything out of 21 personnel and you know a lot of teams don't see that anymore. So it is a little bit of of an advantage especially if you get a guy that can catch the ball out of the backfield similar to how they use juice and in San Francisco and really both Danny and Malcolm Johnson have done a great job for us. All right. Seeky question put in a promo code GRIT right. GRIT code GRIT Seeky because our sponsor for training camp week you get $20 off your

Seeky purchase. So Seeky question is Aaron Rodgers difficult to get along with or very difficult to get along with. None of the above. Oh OK. So no but seriously how is your relationship. But seriously it's under the above. I know it's under a microscope and I was wondering from what you've learned in the past because

there was a famous Kyle Shanahan Matt Ryan maybe not on the same page. Go get a beer. Boomi wins the MVP and you guys go to the Super Bowl. Have you had a lot of beers with Aaron. Yeah. Have you had though. No but have you had the moment where you guys have sat down just the two of you talking shop and getting on the same page like that.

Honestly we have those all the time. Yeah. We try to it's just getting to know each other getting to know you know what he likes what he feels comfortable with within our scheme. But you know just when we first started off it was more about implementing our scheme so he understands it and then trying to take things that he's done really well in his past which there are a lot of them and then how do they fit within our offense. And I think it's coming along good and still we're still not there yet but we're I think

we're on our way. Do you like recognize the fact that basically you're going to be under a microscope from the Bleacher Report article that was written and everything that finished last year that no matter what like you have to be ready if you guys even look at each other the wrong way on the sidelines I'm going to be tweeting that video and be in trouble in paradise. Yeah. Yeah. Well I got eyes.

I will be honest with you. I did not read that Bleacher Report article and I just don't have time for that to be honest with you. I did all when you saw the video of Aaron trying to chug a beer at the Bucks game and he only got like a third of the way down. Was that a big red flag? No. No.

He's a Scotch guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He said that. But then you see Baker going out there biting into a can with his teeth and pounding it. There's not like a little bit. I didn't see that.

Yeah. Yeah. He's shotgunned it by biting the shotgun hole with his teeth. So you're impressed. That's interesting. You're already impressed by that. I got to give you a compliment which I don't want to do. You've done a really good job of becoming an NFL coach and saying you haven't seen anything

on social media or whatever. That's smart of you. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Just being like, oh, I didn't see that. I didn't see that. I don't read that.

That's smart. Because I know you do. I only read what you got. Honestly, one of the few apps that I even use is the Barstall app. Okay. I love that. All right. And you better listen to part of my take because I'm going to bash the Packers all year

long. I love it. Yeah. It's a fun game we play. It's called explain in detail what the first 15 plays will look like on September 5th. Explain in detail. We ask this to every coach. Every single coach gets this question.

So we give the game plan. Yeah. In detail, what do we run in first play? I don't know. You guys are going to have to wait and see. Okay. You got a little something up your sleeve. Nobody ever runs a flea flicker first play.

You should do that. Actually, my buddy of mine has been trying to tell me to do that for years. Okay. Yeah. You should do it. It's great until it doesn't work. It sounds great. Yeah.

Until Kalil Mack is in the backfield sacking the quarterback before he gets the ball. When you guys make it to the Super Bowl, can we get a sweet? Sean told us we could have one last year. Yeah. Yeah. And he said that we could also call the first play. We won't ask you for the first play. We're just trying to take care of the Bears week one.

Yeah. One game at a time. Give me a prediction next year that we'll hold you to. I don't make a prediction. Ten and six. I can't do it. Ten and six. Okay.

Better than ten and six. I just, I mean, one week at a time. Yeah. Can we go back to the Super Bowl real quick? I know it was obviously painful, but what, what, like what lessons did you learn from that game? You were the quarterbacks coach for Matt Ryan. And what, if you could have done anything different, obviously you're not calling the

plays in that situation. But I would assume you're in the conversation and how everything went down. Like, did you replay that many, many times in your head? I think we all have, you know? Only if hindsight's 20-20, and in the moment you're trying to do the best job you can. And the one thing I've always said is, you know, the way Cal called plays all year was aggressive and it worked for us. And he did a great job.

We wouldn't have been there without that type of mindset and mentality. And don't get me wrong, we had unbelievable players when you have Matt Ryan, when you have Julio Jones, Devonte Freeman, Mohsenu, Alex Mack. We had, we had a lot of really great players, but you know, we were aggressive and it didn't pan out and it is what it is. I'm also interested in talking a little bit about your years in Washington. So you were the quarterbacks coach for both Kirk Cousins and RG3 that year, which I imagine, and to your credit, you did a very good job developing both of them, but those are two

very different quarterbacks that you were coaching that year. Like, when you have two guys like that that you're working with, one steps in for the other. How did you decide? Okay, which elements are we keeping from Robert Griffin's offense, which is like taking the league by storm and trying to adapt them to Kirk Cousins, which is like a totally different quarterback. Yeah.

No, that's a great question. Thank you. That is a great question. You know, so we took the whole off season really studying what Robert had done at Baylor and we were trying to figure out how we could implement that and still do our core run concepts as well as our past concepts. And it's really a credit to Kyle just putting that whole thing together and having that vision of what we could come up with.

And really it was a pretty seamless transition, believe it or not, when we went from going from Robert to Kirk, because the only thing that we kind of eliminated was a lot of the zone read stuff. But a lot of the same concepts from a pass game were just done with different actions. And then from a running game standpoint, it's not like we just majored in zone read. We still ran our outside zone. But we took a little bit, obviously, took a little bit less of the zone read element when Kirk was stepped in.

It also helped that you were playing the Browns that game. That was like a nice bonus. It's like Kirk Cousins first game is going to be against the team. It started off rough. It started off rough. I think we had like three, three an ounce in a row. So like pulling back the curtain a little bit on how an offensive coaching staff works, when you're a quarterback's coach, how much input do you get in the game plan?

Is it very much back and forth with the offensive coordinator or does the offensive coordinator come up with a game plan and then you're just like, OK, this is it. We're going to just practice this. So it's been pretty similar wherever I've been in terms of everybody's got an area of expertise that they're working on. And you know, I think as a coordinator, you're always open to listening to everybody's ideas. And then it's just your responsibility to decipher, OK, how does this fit within the framework of our offense and how we're trying to attack that particular defense?

Now switching now to your head coaching job, by the way, we're in the Packers media room, which is right by where there's a lot of I don't know what's going on out there. There's some they're moving stuff around, always something always going on. They're hard at work. So switching now to being a head coach, has it been different or difficult to have to like take a step back a little bit when it comes to your area of expertise or being maybe like micromanaging pieces that you can't do anymore because now you're the head coach and you're in charge of everyone.

Yeah, no, it's it's it's I'm kind of maneuvering through that right now. I feel really good about the staff. We were able to hire with Nathaniel Hackett, Luke Getze, you know, that Luke had been here before as a receiver coach. And that helped kind of with the transition in terms of how we're implementing some stuff that they've done in the past here. But no, I've got good people around me. Adam Stenevich is our online coach.

He came from San Francisco. So he was in our he's been in this scheme before he really takes a load off with the run game and same with Justin Outen, who was in Atlanta for the past three years. Now he's our tight end coach. So we've got a lot of good guys around me to kind of help, you know, navigate through that whole process of game planning. And to be quite honest, in the preseason, there's not a whole lot of game planning going on. You know, you're more or less running your your core concepts, just your base foundation

of an offense. But as we progress into the season, that's where more of that's that's going to come into play. And, you know, I know there's going to be more requirements in terms of like media requests and all that stuff that I just got to figure out how we're going to navigate. We're going to be a nightmare for you guys. Oh, yeah. The big juice out there.

Big time to come after you. Are you going to keep the I heard. I can't remember who told us that Mike McCarthy, he used to do a thing where if the Packers were on like a losing streak, they would stay at a worse and worse hotel. Are you going to keep that tradition alive? I know. Okay. So five class.

So your team soft. If that's what you want to call it. No, we're going to try. It's Carl. You know what? I don't handle the team travel. So it's actually an awesome move by him. I loved hearing that.

Who told us that story? I have no idea. Is someone told us or dreamt that? No, I swear to God. I think you definitely made that up. Back it up. I'm going to know. No, we're going to know.

Maybe make that up. Okay. Well, then I'm a genius because that's a good move. If your team's doing bad, make them stay in a shitty hotel. Well, have you coordinated the travel? Okay. Great. You guys are not make any, any game time.

Sorry. Connecting flights to all your games. Are you still doing the Lombardi time? Is it Lombardi time or cough on time? No, it's beyond time. Okay. Being early is being on time. Now, so we say beyond time be prepared.

So if a meeting starts at 9 a.m., you better be in your seat ready to go at 9 a.m. Okay. What about the standard? Is the standard the standard? The standard is always the standard. What does that mean? Yeah. It means there's the standard and that it's the standard.

It is. Do you guys have like a slogan that you're putting on the back of your t-shirts? No, not yet. Yeah. The standard is the standard. Yeah. That would be really good. You got that from Sean.

Yeah. Anthony Lynn who got it from Mike Tomlin. Who got it from some dude who is super hot. That's all we do in this league. It's a copycat league. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right.

I wanted to ask you a question about my favorite college football conference in the world. That's the Mac. You're a big Mac guy. I love Macsion. Yeah, Macsion. You played for Mac school. What is it? I did not play for Mac.

Well, I guess I did. Yeah, you did. But I didn't play play. Okay, but you were at a Mac school. I was. And then you also coached a little at a Mac school. Yes. But what is it about the Mac because you could go down the list like Nick Saban, Brian Kelly,

Urban Meyer. You got Miami, Ohio, the Cradle Coaches, Sean McVeigh, Sean, Bo Schambachler, Woody Hays. Right. So it's actually incredible when you look at it and you're like, this little conference has all these coaches. What is it about the Mac and like maybe it's the hunger in the coaches or whatever it may be produces all these guys. That's a great question.

Thank you. Yeah. I think, I don't know. I think a lot of guys just start out early in their career at a lower level and not that the Macs. I mean, it's still the lower level. You don't see other small conferences producing the type of talent in the coaching world that the Mac does.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if it's coincidence or. I think it's just the state of Ohio. There's something about Ohio. It is. It makes football. What about Michigan?

Michigan is good too. Yeah. I don't know. But Ohio does it right now. It's like you go down the list. The coaches that we listed plus tack like Jim Trestle, Bob Stoops, the Stoops is both Polinis, the Grudens, all those guys. It's just something about Ohio.

An urban from Ohio. What? Is it urban from Ohio? Yes, I think so. But he's not a coach. He's never come back. He's retired. Yeah.

Exactly. That's my reaction as well. My last question for you is kind of like an ex's nose type question, believe it or not. They made a rule change this year for pass interference where you're going to be able to challenge it a little bit. It's going to be, you know, it certainly looks like it's going to favor the offense. Have you sat down and thought about how you can take advantage of the fact they're going to be calling it more tightly this year?

I don't know. Is that a word? Tighter. They're going to call it tighter this year. Have you sat down and thought like here's maybe how we could implement, I don't know, more back shoulder throws or more certain type of other throw? Yeah. That is, if they don't throw a penalty or they don't throw a flag and you're going

to challenge it, you better know that it was PI. So I think that's something that we're going to figure out throughout the course of the preseason and early on into the regular season is just exactly how are these plays going to get overturned or whatnot. But honestly, I think it could be an advantage from a defensive perspective considering that scoring plays are under automatic review and you see a lot of, you know, rub or pick plays down in that red area. So it could actually help the defense or your red area or red zone guy.

I'm the red area. Okay. I always find that. What about the red area starting at the 22 yard? Bob Diacco. Hi, right? Yeah. I did that.

Yeah. 22. That was the, it was 22 and in was the red area. I worked with Bob Diacco. At Central Michigan. Did you know? Okay. So he hadn't, did you see the crazy in his eye?

Like that guy at some point in his life is going to create a rivalry trophy out of nowhere with UCF. Did you see that in his eyes? Yeah. I saw it. Okay. Yeah. That's, he's got that crazy in his eyes.

Unbelievable. I mean, that rivalry trophy is the greatest rivalry trophy of all time. I actually lost it. I like the clock better than the trophy, the countdown, the civil conflict in the locker room. Civil conflict. You don't choose who your rivals are. I'm like, my last question is, I think you like me and I want you to know that I don't

like you. Good question. Okay. I still like you. No, see, don't do that. Don't do that. How can you not like you? I mean, no, don't do that.

Don't do that. As soon as I see you on the sidelines, when you're coaching week one, I'm like, this guy, fuck him. He's the worst. Unless you lose. Then I'll be like, I love Matt LaFleur. You can coach them forever. I'll still dap you up.

Yeah. I'm going to come look for you. Okay. You need to get the rivalry. I know. That's why we hired a buckets. Yeah. Love it.

Oh, I didn't know that. Oh yeah. Okay. You got to do lovey Smith when he was like, we're going to beat the Packers. You got to be like, we're going to beat the Bears and get the rivalry going. Yeah. We're going to, we're going to have a great game versus the Bears. I like it.

And I'll tell you what, it's going to be, it's going to, got a lot of respect for them. Your personality is disarming and I don't like it. Let's end this interview. I have a last, last question. Has Aaron Rogers slipped into that fakes Southern accent thing that he did, like he did after the Bears game last year when he was like, Oh my knee hurt so bad. I have not heard that one yet. Be on the lookout for that.

I will be. All right. Matt LaFleur. Thank you very much. I do like you, but I don't guarantee better than I don't actually like you, but I like, like you're nice and you're a great guy. But after this, it's on. Okay.

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Okay, let's get some segments first up. We have heard or injured Andrew Luck. Stop me if you've heard this before, but Andrew Luck has a weird random injury that might keep him out for a lot longer than everyone expects. Yep. It's an annual tradition that we go through here. I don't know what I mean. The shoulder was fine last year.

Well, it was after he threw the vortex, then the children's football, then the college football, then the real football. Now we have to be worried about the calf. His calf injury has migrated into an ankle injury. Oh, no. So it's always an ankle injury. He's dealing with a bone issue in his ankle, which doesn't sound like a calf. I don't know.

I'm not a doctor, but I think that if your muscle gets sore enough, then it can break up. I don't know. I don't know. So he's sitting out the entire preseason, which who the fuck cares? The preseason, I don't, I'm very much, the preseason doesn't matter one way or the other. What'd you say?

Swag. Swag Kelly. Swag Kelly. You're right. You're right. But did Swag go time you're harding on him? I wouldn't put a fast. I don't think I don't think he had to.

I think Andrew Luck just let him walk around enough and something's going to happen. So what I don't like, if you're a Colts fan, what do you do when Andrew Luck just every, it seems like every year has an injury that makes no sense and you just don't get any report about it. Yeah. I think you just have to bike down on a piece of wood and hope for the best. It's turned. Calf strain has turned into a high ankle issue.

Exactly. I don't know how that works. It's like being like, oh yeah, my sniffles turned into the flu. I was going to say, yeah, my sniffles turned into frostbite on the bottom of my feet. How does the calf? Okay. So I don't know. All I know is the most important story to come out of this was which had Ocho Sinko advise

Andrew Luck to do. He said Adam. He said Adam. First of all, he called him Adam, not Andrew. I soaked my ankle in warm urine to heal all my lower extremity injuries. Notice I was never injured my entire career. Please pass along my message. It's a home remedy.

So he was telling that to Adam Schefter to tell it to Andrew Luck. So just piss on yourself, Andrew. Yeah. Do it. Do it. You can do this. And I mean, I think at this point, Andrew Luck is, he'll take any, he went to Germany for his shoulder.

And now. They pooped on you in Germany. Yeah. That is true. Scat porn. And now he's just got to piss all over his ankle. Like a jellyfish. It's not going to hurt anything if you pee on your feet.

Are you sure? Many times. That's true. And I did break my foot while I was walking. So next some dots. I don't know. All right. We have the PMT Sports Biz update with our darling Jake.

By the way, Jilly football just showing up today. Yeah. She hasn't been here for a month and then she just walked in and was like, I'm back. She gave me a great hug. She was like asking me what to do. I was like, Oh no. Oh no. We don't know.

We thought you were just our Twitter friend now. So we'll have to figure out what to do with Jilly. Maybe Friday we can figure this out. We'll figure something out for sure. Yeah. But either way, we do have an intern that actually shows up every day and it's Jake. So here it is. The PMT Sports Biz Minute.

Good morning. This is Jake Marsh with the PMT Sports Biz Minute. The 2019 Little League World Series begins tomorrow. Kids ages 9 to 12 get the once in a lifetime opportunity to play on one of the biggest stages in youth sports. Now it's important to note that each player must prove their age before stepping on the field in Williamsport and there are a couple of ways to do this. I mean, even Carlos from the bench warmers bribed his way to the mound.

Amazing. The Antonio Brown Saga continues Oakland star wide receiver tweeted out that he's looking for a shut air advantage large helmet that was manufactured in 2010 or after the first football helmet dates back to the 1893 Army Navy game. Admiral Joseph Mason Reed went to his shoemaker and had him fashion a moleskin hat with earflaps. This was even briefly used by paratroopers during World War One. That's your PMT Sports Biz Minute, Mr. Catt, Mr. Commenter. Back to you.

All right. Jake. Very cool, Jake. Yeah. Check out Jake on Twitter. He's giving us facts. You're going to give us what Ray Allen and Kishan Johnson have done as entrepreneurs minus all the jump juices, right?

Mm-hmm. All right. Next up, we have a way to stay relevant baseball. I looked it up. Kishan Johnson was on a weekend TV series on A&E in 2008. Oh, I remember that. Kishan Johnson tackling design. He did do NFL Countdown for a while.

He was on Countdown. He's done a lot of studio shows. Yeah. I guess he's got an investment business or whatever for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Because Mike Dicca would just like stare at him and fart. Yeah.

Just fall asleep. The hell are you talking about? All right. So way to stay relevant baseball. Major League Baseball released their 2020 schedule yesterday. Also the same day the NBA released their schedule. Yeah. At the same time.

What the fuck is baseball doing? They couldn't have picked the worst time to do that if they had tried. If they had sat down and figured out the worst possible time would have been at that exact moment. And they did it. So good job. But we're talking about it. I did look at it and I'm just going to say if any AWOLs out there work at the Marriott

at the Skydome it's always been a dream of mine to go watch the Cubs play in that hotel that's in the stadium. Oh the ones that people can see people fucking in. Yes. Okay. So I'm not going to fucking it but I will bring my four loco tube. That's a promise. In the window.

Which is guaranteed not to be fucked. Yes. It's going to sit right there. Seriously. Someone hook me up. This might be just a genius strategy that Major League Baseball has is being so bad at marketing themselves that they get more marketing by people talking about how bad their marketing strategy is.

Right. Yeah. I guess that's true. It's a release day and you're like oh there's a baseball schedule too. I guess that's better than just releasing it and everyone not even realizing it was released. We probably wouldn't talk about the baseball schedule getting released unless this had happened.

Good point. You win again Bud Selig. Yeah you did it. All right. Last up before we get to guys on chicks we have thoughts and prayers for A-Rod. He had five hundred thousand dollars of jewelry stolen from in San Francisco. I'm on the case. Where is World Series Rings.

That is the first question you should ask. How does a man have five hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry in his car. He's fucking rich. Was he planning on proposing to somebody else. He valued Barstle at one billion dollars. Okay. So he's rich. Interesting.

I don't know how that makes him rich. Yeah. But dude that's good. If you say big enough numbers. That's good. Then that's good. Okay. Yeah we should sell to him.

For a billion. Yes we should. One bill. You should be like A-Rod you were so smart and you're right. One bill. One bill. Yeah. So I don't know what.

It's a major flex to have that much stolen from you. Right. Like that's the one spin zone here to have five hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry stolen from you. That's pretty cool. Unless it's like a Drew Brees situation where the like rings weren't worth as much as what you bought them for. Oh.

That's it. Drew Brees should have just said he got a shit stolen. Right. Instead of being like oh I bought a huge cubic zirconia. Right. He just flushed that down the toilet and be like I got my diamond ring stolen. Yeah. Someone took my my bling bling.

So yeah I'm on the case. I'm going to get to the bottom of it and by that I mean I'm just going to go on Twitter until someone finds it and be like job well done or just search Craigslist in Oakland. That's true. That's true. If anyone has five hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry. Yeah. I'm sure they went right to Craigslist.

Is Craigslist still exist. I don't know. Hank does it exist. Yeah. Okay. We were let go guys. Yeah. We don't use.

Yeah. Big time let go. It's the new wave. All right. Last up. I'm going to get down for human trafficking. Boom. Craigslist.

Can't say that. Hey. Remember 2002. Neither do we. Let go. Let go. All right. So a special edition guys on chicks guys in labor.

Why. Why are we doing guys in labor. Oh boy. Where do we start. Everyone's unionizing and Barstool isn't well. So last night I guess Dave started well two night two days ago the ringer unionized. That's right. The ring because we're still got like five hundred million dollar contract.

Yeah. It's my hypothesis that that he was sent over there by ESPN to become an inside agitator start a union. Damn. And then try to tear the ringer down from the inside then go back to ESPN clapping his hands. I did it boss. Yep.

But it's kind of suspect that he still has four podcasts left on ESPN. That's just what I'm saying. I don't know if it's true. Shout out Ryan by the way good friend of ours go now to go into the ringer then tweeting out still got four ESPN podcast. Oh yeah. So the ringer they unionized a couple days ago and then our boss Dave said that he would crush smash it smash any unionizing efforts like a grape I believe is what he said which

is against the law apparently to say that he should have said I'll eat any union like a grape in three bites like Mike Greenberg. Yeah. At least give you a chance to live exactly or like I'll eat someone's ass. Right. Right. Yeah. So it is against the law.

He broke the law which I is he going to jail. He goes to jail. Although jail if Dave went to jail it's actually jail for us because then he'll tell us about jail all the time. He will never let that go. Right. He'll be like he did go to jail all the time and he told he talked about it nonstop. Yeah.

So that's jail for us. Don't put him in jail. Yeah. So then we got into the whole unionization conversation today about whether or not parcel should unionize hand up. I didn't know shit about unions. All I knew about unions was I've seen newsies twice. Yeah.

Still don't know shit about unions. Yeah. So really that's one of those things where if you'd ask me listen I'm I'm not the smartest guy. I think I know a little bit about a lot of it but unions definitely didn't know a lot about that. Yeah. I think unions are good across the board.

I'm a big union. Everything I've learned. Yeah. I'd agree. Yes. We have educated you a little bit. Oh dude. I when I said I was like I think unions are good but not for us.

Everyone's like you're a fucking scab and a bootlicker. I was like dude what did I say. Yeah. So I learned that language is very important. Language please come at you when it comes to unions. I learned that. They definitely do. I also learned that I have equity so I actually am like I can't.

We should. I'm getting my boots licked. We should unionize against you. Yeah. I shouldn't comment about unionization about our union efforts because little late for that. Yeah. Way late.

Way late. I blew that one. Everybody else in the room can unionize against big cat on this show. Yeah. And then we can have all the power. And guess what. As your boss. I welcome that.

You've recognized the union. Yeah. So the thing about unions is I think a lot of people were thinking like oh if you unionize against your boss then it means that you are not happy with the way things are. Correct. I thought that. I think and you know what would I've learned today. Still don't understand.

So Hank in theory you could unionize right now and just part of your union bargaining could be if this is what you want it to be. I want everything the way that it is right now. And so while that wouldn't change anything. But you got to pay fees. You would pay a little bit of a fee. That's true. Gotta throw that out there.

I don't do that. But then. Be fair to both sides. That's true. You got to pay fees. But then if Barstool were to get sold to somebody that didn't want to treat you good it would still be in your contract that they had to treat you good. Damn.

Well. See you well. So we've all learned a lot today. Yeah. Sure. So I bottom line. I still don't understand unions. All I know is that I am pro union.

I still don't understand how a union would work for Barstool. But I'm in a position where I can't talk about it. OK. Well here come a bunch of questions. Should I sum it up correctly. That are all. I nailed it. Basically union centric.

So let's do it. Let's do it. Guys in labor. If one person in your union has sex does that mean by default you also had sex. Yes. That's actually. The law is very clear on this. OK.

So I've been I've been I was in a union and I claimed that I lost my virginity. So yes. PFT. Here's another question is our resident union lawyer lawyer. If I wanted to start a union but my only grievance was for churn in to pay off all my gambling debts. Is that OK. I believe you could request that I'm in a union.

I declare a union ship. All right. Which union such as garbage construction labor is plumbers etc. do you think has the toughest members. Steamfitters. Maybe the welders. Yeah. Well there's a dude welders just walk around with fire all day.

Fire and iron. What about the underwater welders. Steamfitters. Insulators. Insulators. Yeah. The silent killer. That's true.

That's what they say. Yeah. Maybe refrigeration because like you got to deal with people bitching. They only call you when the refrigerator is broken. I'm actually going to say digital media. Yes. Yeah. That's the part.

That's really the part that I don't understand how digital media has unions. But that's again I'm learning I'm a little I'm a little egg. I'm learning my union everything and someday I'll learn I don't know where I'm going to learn to fly. Oh I'm in a union so it's fine. Union suggestion. Join the firefighters union and get them to drive by Pete's house with sirens on all night until he gets the podcast room fixed Thursday Friday's podcast.

There's going to be no issues. No that's right. That's what we've been told on Thursday during the day except I talked to Pete yesterday. And here's what Pete told me just so that you're aware there might be some residual noise while you guys are here. I was like Pete that's those are two big words. What does that mean? He was like well they're going to be they're going to be fixing the windows in other rooms

nearby and so that you might be able to hear the sirens through those. So basically it still might be fucking noisy on Thursday. It might be noisy on Thursday but we think it's going to be fixed on Thursday and because I know I hate Pete and we go back and forth a million times. He is actually getting this fixed so I'm going to give him another 50 Madden Codes to give out to the people. Oh that's nice. Add all business Pete.

Add all business Pete. He's got FIFA Codes too. He's got FIFA Codes. He's got Madden Codes. I am going to do that out of the goodness of my heart for you people. Tweet it all business Pete. Ask for those Madden Codes. My boyfriend almost always has lint in his belly button.

Is this a common thing? How does this happen? What does that happen with unions? We're talking about unions. Oh the blessed union of marriage. The belly button. Oh deep belly buttons union. We want rights.

Yeah four nipolars of America. Yeah okay. Can you unionize everything? I don't know. I'm kind of addicted to unions. I think you can declare but yeah everyone has belly button. If you don't have belly button lint then it's a problem. Okay.

Yeah I agree. I pull a full fucking shirt out of my belly button at night. Yeah Rick Riley told me remember. Yeah that's right. Yeah. Literally like it's disgusting. This isn't really a question it's more of just a roast or statement. Okay.

The majority of your audience is middle class hence a lot of union labor workers. Facts. I'm in the local 134 labor union in Chicago and if you guys think me or any of my co-workers are going to support a company that blasts unions you have another thing coming. Don't blast unions. Yep. We are anti-blasting union. The question from a separate person is shooting unionizers immoral.

Shooting them. Shooting them. Shooting. Shooting. That's the question. People is immoral. Because Mr. Portnoy threatened to shoot me. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. That is very immoral. Yeah. And I listen. I don't even know. I actually have no idea where Dave stands at this point.

I think a lot of it is shtick but we if you were writing in from a union we got your back. But we might not unionize. But I've said too much. Yeah. I've said too much just there. I'm just walking on eggshells. Yeah.

Here's the thing. I don't know what the fuck to say. Here's the thing. I'll take this one for you. Okay. Thank you. It's okay to not start a union. Correct.

But. But. However. You should be able to have the conversation of whether or not you should. Want to. Without somebody saying that he'll fire you if you do. Are unions basically fight club? Yeah.

Okay. Exactly. Now you get it. Just don't ever talk about unions. That's a good question. Regarding that. Some fellow current bootleaders. Dude.

I've been called. I got called a bootleader like a billion times today. And I'll tell you man. It hurts every time. I live in the south and was told by my last employer that if a union rep came onto the property that we were to report him to our facility manager. He would call the police and have the rep charged with trespassing. Other than that we have fantastic benefits.

So that's kind of where you have to draw the line to determine what's best. Okay. Gotcha. It is very confusing. Unions are just like people. Right. They're good. They're good people and they're bad people everywhere.

Yeah. Every single walk of life. For the most part I think unions do a great job like teachers, firefighters. Unions gave us weekends. Exactly. Weekends and. But I still might not be for the union. But.

You work on Sundays though. Yeah. So we need to. Well that's because we choose to. I gotta say. Or else Big Cat will fire us. I know people are mad at Dave and they have every right to be mad at Dave but him just saying that he would go and smash random unions.

That's fun. Yeah. It's like I'll go to the Daily Beast and smash. I did. He thinks it's like he thinks he's Mario and he can just jump around and jump on people. He thinks he's a Pinkerton like for hire. Here's the last. This is the last question.

It's regard to that. Sup boys especially dip cat union question. Did nine dips today. Obviously. No. Obviously. Pouches or snooze. Nine.

Obviously you guys on PMT have said you have the perfect job and that all your benefits are taken care of. Correct. Is Dave just talking a bunch of shit because he knows that he has the support of his employees. Also Packers plus three. No. I think Dave's just he he made the initial tweet and he saw it got a reaction and then he was like I'm going to double and double down and triple down on all of this because

I see that people are talking about me. But there is an element where and I don't I haven't talked to every single person at Barstool about unions but I would say a lot of people at Barstool are very very happy. That's not saying that. I don't. What would you say boss things. People get paid very well and people seem to be very happy here but I don't know if that means we should unionize right right but we can have the conversation and choose

not to allow our choice. I will allow the no no no no it's not up to you. No no no. I would welcome. There you go. Thank you. Thank you. Boots.

This is what Simmons is going to say. Whenever he comments. Bill Simmons locked into this day because holy shit if he comes out and he's like fuck these guys that would be the Internet will just go aflame. Yeah. So yeah there's a part of me that thinks that what Dave was doing part at stick today is exactly what Bill Simmons wants to do for real. I agree with that.

You should just hire Dave to smash the radio. He is fucking he really does think he could go around smashing unions so might as well just hire him. Yep. All right. We'll see everyone Friday. Love you guys. Even bosscat.

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