Pardon My Take - Pat Bev In Studio, The Cowboys Are Deader Than Dead, College Football Talk + The Jets Have Reached The Bottom

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

The Cowboys are dead and they need to stop being on primetime. Yeah Joe Burrow is having an insane statistical season (00:00:00-00:15:56). The Jets have reached rock bottom after firing their GM and M...emes has some bad plans to fix it (00:15:56-00:25:26). College Football talk and the coordinated attack on Indiana Football plus could the Big 12 be left out all together (00:25:26-00:54:55)? Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Sixers in disarray and Jon Stamos is a weirdo (00:54:55-01:30:24). Pat Bev joins us in studio to talk ball, playing in Israel, playing with Giannis, the end of last season and tons more (01:30:24-02:20:26). We finish with listener submitted pardon your takes (02:20:26-02:35:09).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take we have our good friend Pat Bev, Patrick Beverly in studio. Talking some ball with him. He's back from Israel for 10 days, a little break in the action, talk some ball with him, talk Joel Embiid, maybe Trouble in Paradise in Philadelphia, we got Hatsy, Cool Throne, college football rankings, we have two weeks and then conference championship week left in the season, we're getting down to it, big time debates going on, We're going to talk Monday night football. The Cowboys are dead. And then we have partner your take with some really good ones. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings.
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Starting point is 00:01:58 See terms at pick six dot draft kings.com slash promos. Okay Let's go. I think that's a convenient excuse because I don't think that they would ever flex the Cowboys because what you could get with any Dallas game is exactly what you got last night which is chaos the building falling apart in Dallas before the game and it's still got 17 million viewers. These guys I mean that's Monday Night Football too. Yes but also primetime games Monday football Sunday night football. I'm good with not having to watch the Cowboys anymore They're really bad listen. They're not even fun bad
Starting point is 00:02:53 I I am too, but guess what people in general are gonna watch the Dallas Cowboys if they're on primetime That's the thing about them and it sucks But the the Simpsons broadcast that'll be fun to see the team just completely implode as I hope that Mike McCarthy is either Chief Wiggum That'd be the perfect fit mm-hmm as Chief Wiggum or maybe just Smithers on the sideline and Mr. Burns needs to be Jerry Jones I mean I'm gonna have to watch that that broadcast because it's gonna suck having to watch the Cowboys again It's just not it's not fun Cooper Rush not fun. Why aren't why don't they start Trey Lance?
Starting point is 00:03:25 He's probably not good, but it's he's not Cooper rush, right, but he's probably not good But why not at this point? I think I think you got to be at least like there's a level of competency that maybe he hasn't achieved I Guess but I mean you traded a draft pick for him. Yeah, what was it like a seventh rounder? No, I think it's higher than that was it. Yeah I mean, I stupid I don't think that's Was it? Yeah. I mean, I was stupid. I don't think that's that uncommon of a take to say that they should just try to start Trey Lance.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah, I'm sure they will at some point. It was a fourth rounder. I'm sure they will at some point. I just, I would assume he's, there's gotta be a reason he's not playing. You know what the saddest part? Like I think they will now maybe because they're so bad and it's over, but I think they, this was the last moment where they're like, hey Maybe we'll win a game and change it around. It's just it's not there
Starting point is 00:04:08 You know what the saddest part to me is watching Cooper Rush play quarterback for this team when he does the here we go Yeah, that does the deck he needs to come up with his own cadence Yeah, don't just try to do like a cover of Dak Prescott's already annoying. Here we go. It's very very bad Yeah, the Cowboys are very very bad bad. Jerry's very, very bad. I feel like the fans have fully turned on him. He's in late stage dementia, weird. He's given these press conferences afters. I've been here for bad teams, and bad years happen.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It's like, yeah, we get it. But this team sucks, and you had no contingent. And it's getting hidden by the fact that Dak Prescott got hurt. They sucked before that. Oh, well before, yeah. Their defense stinks. This isn't just that Dak Prescott got hurt our year went to shit. It was bad before that.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah, it was already bad. Your play at the running back position from week one was awful. Yeah. They just, yeah. Bad team. And the Texans get a little right, get a little mojo going right. We're just never trailing in that game. Just whooping up on them. That's gotta feel good. That first place should have counted. Yeah, I know. It was such a good first play too. It also was
Starting point is 00:05:15 just classic for Laramie Tunsel. They probably practice that play all week and then he was like, he just didn't do it right. Yeah. It's the king of penalties. Uh, but yeah, the Texans like, I don't really know where I think the Texans like I don't really know where I think the Texans are still in that second tier in the AFC where they could maybe win a playoff game. I just don't know. I feel like they're just don't have enough against a Bill's Raven Steelers chiefs. So chargers chargers. You like what you just described is the chargers second tier. No, I was you didn't let me finish Thanks for waking up Hank. You didn't let me finish. I was gonna say Chargers the Hank might be a clock at night Hey, I was gonna say he might put a juicy little future on the Chargers. That'd be a sharp
Starting point is 00:05:54 That's rolling me. I'm here sharp bet you're gonna be so mad if the Chargers win a playoff game No, yeah, you will. Yeah, you will you'll get a little bit upset. Oh Zero fear. Okay. So if you're the Cowboys one thing I didn't understand last night your seasons over right? You don't you're not gonna you're not gonna win anything. You've long since given up on that Why not just let Brandon Aubrey have that 64 yard field heat dude. He like barely even kicked it It looked like a practice. It was not I understand the idea that okay, they called a penalty which by the way No, no, never take points off the board never take points Off the board. Yeah, not a long time. Yeah coach. You know, you don't want to take three points
Starting point is 00:06:28 You never know what could happen. Yeah, but you got your drive extended. So you're trying to score a touchdown Yeah as a Bears fan did that piss you off that they called slap to the head which hasn't been called in decades No, listen, man, and they didn't call Center's face you sent it into the league. I'm sure we'll fix everything. I don't like you Hank. I'm stuck on the Chargers thing. By the way, you just named five AFC teams and you didn't name the Chargers. Hold on. The way you describe the playback, I want to play back. It was the perfect description of the Chargers where they might want to play off. They're not beating the cheese. What was the, what was the original
Starting point is 00:07:02 bet though? I said that, uh, now I obviously believe in them fully, but the original bet though? I said that now I obviously believe in them fully, but the original bet that we all put in together was I don't think the Chargers are going to win the Super Bowl, but they are at 45 to one insane odds because they're a playoff team and they could play. They could basically beat anyone in a one game elimination set. And then I've been telling you like you're going to cash out. Right. All right. So then we agree. We agree to disagree. No, Jay Bill bill, no, Jay, bill, disagree, disagree. Disagree. You're disagreeing with yourself. You're just being disagreeing with your past self. That's true. So that happens all the time. You're taking it out on me. Well, I feel like, no, no, no, no. You're arguing
Starting point is 00:07:36 with a ghost right now. You are going with some of that. That doesn't exist anymore. That's correct. Logic. That was old. And cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, That's correct logic that was old and cat that can't be correct logic is arguing with his what I'm arguing I'm taking out on you because I feel like I feel like the chargers are basically the only thing you care about now No, because you were trolling me before and like I think it's giving you life. So actually you know, we talked about it We did talk about it on the show. It's like when you cash out a future You're not gonna roof for it. Yeah, you're rooting against but you should thank me for giving you life. You have
Starting point is 00:08:04 You have this is an abusive relationship right here front row tickets to gaslighting. Well, he he reversed gaslit me Yeah, yeah, let's keep going me reverse light gaslighting uses you saying things that you said previously Sorry, you know what? I want to talk to max and max only sorry that You know what? I want to talk to max and max only sorry that I came up with a bet that all the boys could ride on and we could have fun and root for it together And then half of the boys cashed out. Sorry. Sorry. I was rooting for that. I I'm still in thank you Max I I thought it would be fun. No, no, you know, but my butt was gonna be the before the show We were all silent and then Hank just whispers into the mic. He goes Charges pretty good. Yes. He's trolling me. Yes. That's no one was talking. He just was like he's trolling me. I think the charge. Can you at least admit
Starting point is 00:08:53 that PFT? I know you're saying he's trolling me. Oh yeah. No shit. Yeah. Well I mean he is but I can't do it. Great. Someone who's trolling me. Sorry that I did something that we all could do together and then like Listen, I know I got max max always have my back. Everyone else just bailed on me Listen, I have not had a good gambling season and responsibly I cashed out of it Jerry got way madder than you about the cash Jerry approached me one-on-one pulled me aside and Had a sit-down with me about why I would cash out on his Steelers, and I didn't have a good answer for him
Starting point is 00:09:26 No, I'm not mad. I just liked it was fun to do it as a crew It was fun to do it as a crew Travis Hunter's been fun for us It was fun to do it as a crew and then I found out just We don't do it as a crew. I like friendship, but you you cash out of Travis Hunter too. No no absolutely not Dime hands because I can't. They literally won't give it one. If there was, they would have. I'd be lying if I said I didn't check draft things three times a day to see if they've given me an option to cash out on Travis Hunter
Starting point is 00:09:54 or an option to draft out, to cash out on Lamar Jackson. The two of us, we'll do friend bets together. Okay. Love it. We'll ride. Can you cash out or no? Yeah. If we, if we talk about it, did say if he if he says hey member how we talked about this I'm gonna cash out I'd be like yeah, you guys cash out for a loss. The whole point was to cash out for a win I don't know. Yes, you did you 100% did there's no chance no chance No chance So Cowboys Texans detect I don't even care about this So Cowboys Texans, the Texans... I don't even care about this game anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I mean, the game sucked. Why are we even pretending about it? I just want to say that the Texans... You said that they're in that second tier with the Chargers. No, the Chargers are in the first tier. The Chargers are in the first tier. I think that the Texans are exactly the same type of team that they were last year. The difference is that CJ Stroud is in his second season.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I think everybody expected them to be in that top tier of the AFC. Yeah. And because they're just a very good team. We're like kind of silently disappointed in them. Well, their offensive line is not great. And they've obviously had some injuries. It's good that Nico's back because he's awesome. I yeah, I think yeah, I do think that we just expected CJ shroud to go into infinity. Mm-hmm like oh that was his rookie year He'll just be the best quarterback of all time. He's he we expected him to be better than Patrick Mahomes He's just what he is, which is a good quarterback. Yeah, I think he's very good quarter. He's had an up-and-down year Yeah, some not great games. They haven't really blown anybody. Have they blown anybody out? I just remember the Texans I mean last night. Yeah being in a shitload of close games, especially teams that they should have blown out. No, they have not really blown anyone out No, they had oh they blew out the Patriots 41 21. What did you just do? You're right. It was for a loss. Yeah. Yeah, the whole point was to do it for a win I got even money max no investment. No chance
Starting point is 00:11:43 Sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I look it up highly dealt I'm pretty sure it's the same exact odds though if I didn't get any money talk we'll have a strategy the two of us just boys I promise I'm not cashing out no but if we do a little money we'll do it together we'll do it together we'll turn the key together yep it'll be a great experience I don't want to look through this sea of red. I'm lost. Are you? So here's what I'll guarantee it was the exact same cash out that they offered me right when I put the bet in so that's That's minus ten percent. That's minus money minus ten percent. Yeah Okay, so other things clean up from Sunday. I wanted to point out this
Starting point is 00:12:23 Stat from our friend Ben Baby. This one's crazy. Through the first 11 games on the 4-7 Bengals, Joe Burrow has 3,028 passing yards, 27 touchdowns and five interceptions. Players to achieve 3,000 passing yards, 27 touchdowns and five or fewer interceptions through the first 11 games. Here they are. Tom Brady, 2007 and 2015. His teams were 16-0 and 13-3. Aaron Rodgers, 2011-2020. His teams were 15-1, 13-3. Patrick Rahomes, 2020-14-2. Drew Brees, 2018-13-3. This entire exercise is just to prove that Joe Burrow is having an insane season and the rest of his team has let him down. Yeah, it sucks.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It sucks. That's every single, I mean, the lowest amount of wins was 13 and three of that list I just said. And he's in a list with Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, and Drew Brees, and they're four and seven. We should start talking more about Joe Burrow being the MVP. All right, you're trolling me too. No, I Mean if they go on a little run, yeah
Starting point is 00:13:29 Live to get your old Hank Hank. You've seen these stats from Joe burrow I have and if he finishes not hey, this is personally listen my Way first is being early to all these takes that that actually have value first in the league Chargers Travis Hunter Joe bro MVP who told you about all three of those a month and a half ago smart guy That's my crime That is my crime. I Mean he has MVP numbers. What do you want me to say? He is having an outstanding season. Sorry I know ball if they make the playoffs he would be in the conversation
Starting point is 00:14:04 No, probably not because he's like the sixth seed now, and I also I mean that was yeah But if you made the playoffs ever so impressive that I he should be I we discount The MVP conversation just becomes the team the quarterback of the team on the one seat that sucks But I think if his stats were all one and they somehow went on a run to make the playoffs. Yeah, it would be different I I agree if he goes on like a meat like Yeah on the table and like finally yeah and he has like insane numbers. He would definitely win I'd feel vindicated. Are you still in on that? Yeah, what's the number you got there 15? It's 20 now Okay, so I might get in. I might get in.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I might get right out. I might do a parlay. Fuck you guys. You're an asshole. I'm done saying my takes that actually end up being good that have value. I think now makes a lot of sense. Oh, fuck you. You guys are welcome for telling me about Travis Hunter.. I had had that conversation with Brandon Walker that day
Starting point is 00:15:08 well, that's why I thank you for bringing it up because I was gonna bring it up on this very show and Brandon tried to talk me out of Travis Hunter. He's been a Travis Hunter hater. I know for the whole year I know okay, so let's start talk about what I got straight from you and Walker fuck you hey Okay, all right. Hmm now. I won't You know I'm gonna keep my takes to myself whatever whatever. I'm just gonna tweet him out I Was paying your compliment I I can't trust anything you say no I Can't I feel like I'm max right? I'm being honest my opinion Great is on a crime. It is honesty. Great is honesty, Max.
Starting point is 00:15:46 He's never honest. Okay, thank you. What? I appreciate that. I love this. Everything he does on that couch is a troll. I speak facts. What if I, please like point to me a fact that I've said that's been false.
Starting point is 00:15:59 When you sat down on that couch before we were recording, you were just like, I think Chargers Futures a good bet. We should build a little bridge that goes above Hank's head on that wall behind there. Little troll guy. Trolls live here? Yeah. Don't feed the troll. I do love the new partnership though that Max and the big guy have.
Starting point is 00:16:18 The Exist Bridge. The Exist Bridge. I just took Joe Burrow 20 to 1 by the way. Okay. No, what we should talk about before we talk college football is that guy over there that's just not said a word for the whole show. He's just watching the chaos, loving the chaos, thinking maybe, maybe, maybe they'll forget the fact that the jets fired their GM in the middle of the season. And
Starting point is 00:16:42 this is now just, mean even for the Jets Everything that's happened. It's just There's such a dumpster fire memes Joe Douglas gets fired. Is this the thing that will fix everything? No, cuz he was he was pretty much this was his final season. He had six games left Yeah, yeah, so that made the timing of it makes absolutely no sense. I still don't understand it They want to get a jump on they fired their GM six weeks before the season's over What was he going to be doing in those six weeks?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Well, I think you want to fire fire someone so you can start your draft prep with someone who's actually gonna be there to draft Them I guess yeah But I mean they're scouting right now a bunch of reports came out that he pretty much wasn't the GM for the past nine months Oh who was I was what he Johnson he just? Okay, so that's awesome memes I don't know if you had a chance to see this report just came out like five minutes before we started taping That Woody Johnson tried to bench Aaron Rodgers after the Broncos game and that Joe Douglas talked him out of it Who reported that let me look it up
Starting point is 00:17:45 It was on the athletic. I mean I believe you guys so there's a bunch of reports coming out Oh, it's a Diana Rossini and Zach Rosenblatt. Oh That's a half a Rossini Jets owner Woody Johnson suggested benching Aaron Rodgers in September per sources And apparently Douglas talked him out of it and all the other. So after that game, Woody Johnson summoned every coach to the office to explain to him what went wrong. Like defense coordinator, head coach, offense coordinator, whatever it is Nathaniel Hackett does. He was in the room too. Joe Douglas was there. And they asked, he asked them to explain themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And then he said well what about pinching Aaron Rodgers right now and said are you serious they asked him if he was serious and he was I kind of believe it yeah cuz everything that's coming out I mean this guy's just an asshole yeah yeah that's um the Jets are just I mean is Aaron Rodgers just the coach angm right now. No. Yeah, he's gone to fully fully He's gonna. Where's he gonna? Go is he the Titans quarterback and Titans would be a good fit for that would be fun Cuz he could win the AFC South maybe Maybe probably not I think he might walk across to the other locker room. What the Giants? Look if you look at which teams need a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Oh my god, I didn't even think about that. They improved their own line, they have some receivers, their defensive line is good. He doesn't have to move. Doesn't have to move. He loves New York. And then somebody else threw out the Panthers, but he wouldn't go to the base. No way. No. That's beneath him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Wait, the Giants. The Giants, that's intriguing. I could see see and you know how this is going to work memes, right? Yeah. He'll be good again. He'll be very good for at least one year. He's going to go. So if he goes to the Giants, he'll be awesome for a year. Then he'll, it'll be over, but he'll have one year just to, cause he, he basically will just have a chip on his shoulder. That's really what, if you break down what happened with Aaron Rodgers, I know everyone goes with the Achilles and the Achilles
Starting point is 00:19:47 obviously ended that season. The biggest reason that Aaron Rodgers didn't work in the Jets is because the Achilles took away his chip on his shoulder year. Yeah. The guy is great when he has a chip on his shoulder. He had it from Green Bay. He got hurt, couldn't play. The chip on the shoulder goes away. Now he's got a year where he doesn't have to prove anything. Next year is his chip on his shoulder year for the Jets. If he wanted the chip on the shoulder goes away. Now. He's got a year where he doesn't have to prove anything Next year is his chip on his shoulder year for the Jets. He wanted to chip on a shoulder He should just taking the Vax. It's true. Now if he goes to the Giants That would be it would be a troll move too And I know that he loves his next move might just be to piss off
Starting point is 00:20:20 Whoever his most recent enemy is and in this case, it would be the Jets I feel like that would piss the Jets off the most, right? Yeah, 100% Yeah. Hmm. So that could happen. That could happen. I was just looking at the list of teams and there's not there's not many suitors. People were saying the Vikings, but no, Jimmy McCarthy is gonna start when he's healthy.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah, it's like whichever team Doesn't get Sam Darnold. Yeah. Yeah, and then people are saying just get Daniel Jones, but what it's why Getting thrown around yesterday. That's just that's just people trying to get to you Yeah, they're making that's the people doing the Mike McCarthy to the Bears. You can't let that get you to you It's just it's a bad situation. Yeah, I walked past earlier in the office, there was a huddle, names were sitting at the table. Yes, troll. It's like he's just, I'm starting to see through Max's eyes and it just feels good.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Okay, go ahead, yes, yes, troll. I saw it, Hank. You won't ask a question this entire time. It's my favorite part of, I love what you add to everything. Go ahead. This isn't a troll. Okay. This is a report Please report I Can't I literally can't What are you giving a report? I want to hear you. I like this is an eyewitness report from you for me
Starting point is 00:21:41 Okay, my eyes witnessed this and heard okay Memes were sitting around a table with the like pug Liam his guys for other people his crew. What are you guys huddling? Everyone's standing around means was sitting down Showing all the power and I was like, what are you guys doing? And they said they're fixing the Jets. Yeah me blot me So what's what is the plan in the jets okay so go ahead is that a troll no that's not a troll we came up with a bunch of different scenarios condoleezza rice was at like one of the crazier scenarios okay one of the crazier scenarios yeah we went through as many scenarios as you could just
Starting point is 00:22:21 Justin Fields is one of the options I would say no you know it's not gonna no that will not fix you as a as a bridge quarterback no that will not fix you the best scenario was Mike variable coach Kevin Safanti gets fired from the Browns he becomes the OC okay you bring in James as the bridge okay and then Super Bowl wait but who's the new quarterbatch has to be something at the other side of the bridge James James, but he's the bridge the bridge now But the bridge is also a super In a rebuilding year, okay got it, but it's not it's it's a rebuilding year But it's not at the same time because the roster is still good. We just don't have a quarterback There's another name that you told me that you want
Starting point is 00:23:02 And that's Sam Darnold. Oh Yeah, Sam Darnold got Sam what Sam Donald got thrown out there, too It was dark. It's the word dark times me I think we asked you about that like a week ago, and you puked memes But that's just as a bridge and none of this is gonna happen because we're just gonna draft someone who's gonna suck memes You know that's the difference between like American sports fans and European sports for European sports fans if if they had a Jets doing this to them they would riot Yeah, there would be like stones thrown at cars. They would not they don't put up with shit over there
Starting point is 00:23:34 No, you're right. We just take it people just keep buying tickets. Yeah buying jerseys We have made the playoffs in 14 years. Yeah, my entire 20s without seeing the Jets in a playoff It just it's it's tough. Yeah, and now things gonna change because the owner is still the same. Yep We can say Hank. No, that's that sucks. I didn't think about the 20s. That's What were your 20s like hey, there's a decade to win and see your 20s But that's all right 30s are fun to 30s are fun to are you 30? I'm turning when March so you got to win a playoff game this year Wait your whole 20s all 20s. I they haven't been in the playoffs since I was a sophomore in high school
Starting point is 00:24:18 Stop Stop it Hank wild stop it I Stop it Hank wild stop it. I Hope I hope I hope memes that you get to see a playoff one. I truly do I don't think I don't think it could ever happen. Yeah. Well, yeah, you got to figure out coach too and your your number ones raves Yeah, I mean memes I've been to the playoffs. But yeah, I mean, we're not we've talked about it. It's the same dysfunction happens in both places they're a little bit different because the Jets do a
Starting point is 00:24:49 The Jets dysfunction is more all-in and then they fall on their face the Bears dysfunction is more Hey, let's hope we catch lightning in a bottle every now and then and then fuck it up. But you guys actually take a shot Yeah, well, that's the one thing about this here we did yeah You do appreciate the effort of trying to go all correct right, but it was just the biggest disaster of all time. Yeah Man, we're gonna say my officer overrated Yeah, yeah, you just well Hank's not allowed to say that no cuz losing sucks Yeah, getting to the playoffs getting your hopes up and then losing is so much pain. Yeah, but going on a run is so much fun Yeah, getting to the playoffs is fun
Starting point is 00:25:33 you guys I Yeah, yeah, this is loser talk. Yes 100% Hank guilty as charged Hank percent Hank guilty as charged Hank playoffs are overrated there you go that's okay being mediocre oh bad I'm I feel great all right speaking of playoffs should we talk some college football should we talk some college football we have the rankings out the rankings let me I just had him in front of me and then they just lost them. Here they are. It is right now the playoff bracket would be one seed Oregon, two seed Texas, three seed Miami, four seed Boise State,
Starting point is 00:26:18 because BYU just lost. Uh, then it would be home game for Ohio State against BYU, home game for Notre Dame against Alabama, that would be awesome. Home game for Penn State against Georgia and home game for Indiana versus Ole Miss. So we're two weeks, three weeks really because we have the conference championships away from the first 12 team playoff bracket. I like how everyone's getting upset. What are your initial thoughts, PFT? My initial thoughts are it's fun to be mad
Starting point is 00:26:50 about a hypothetical list that will ultimately look much different in two weeks. So yeah, get your anger out somehow. There's a lot less. It's probably healthy to get some of this anger that's pent up out. There is some anger that I guess could be pointed towards, who would you say would be like the most, um, undeserving hire seat?
Starting point is 00:27:09 A lot of people are looking at Ohio state, Indiana, because they're about to play this weekend. Yeah. Indiana fans still have a right to be upset. Get, here's what I'll say about Indiana. Get all of your, uh, hatred out right now. Enjoy attacking the media for underrating you because you don't know what's going to happen. There's a good chance you get your ass kicked by Ohio
Starting point is 00:27:28 state this weekend. So take this time, savor every moment of hate that you get to have at the committee for not treating you properly with enough respect because well, I think they're ranked fine right now. If you look at it, but I mean, they, they don't have a loss. You play who you play. We talked about, but this is also, remember this is the rankings for the, the automatic qualifiers are one through four. Yeah. So they're ranked fine. Like you see I'm saying like Boise is not Boise is not ranked higher than Indiana right now. They just are the automatic qualifier. No, I know that. So he has ranked fifth. Yeah. Where else would you rank them? I mean, Penn state would be the
Starting point is 00:28:01 only gripe you'd have, but like, yeah, I would, I, I think Indiana is ranked fine right now. The problem with Indiana is that Greg Sankey made a call to all of media on Monday and had everyone in the media bash them when they have their big game coming up against Ohio State. And that makes no sense to me. Indiana has not played anyone. Indiana is an awesome story.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Indiana is an underdog story. I'm rooting for Indiana. Let them at least go play Ohio state before we say Indiana sucks. Like that was my problem. They have the game to play. They're going to play the game on Saturday. Let Indiana go play them. So if they get killed, I have no problem. If people want to say that Indiana with one loss shouldn't be in the playoff. Like I, I really won't if they get killed because they have not played anyone, but I want to see them play and compete. And I think they're going to hold them. I think they're gonna do a good job. Hold staying in this game and maybe winning this game.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah. So Indiana this weekend, I want them to win. I'm rooting for Indiana because I'm a fan of chaos first and foremost when it comes to all this college football talk. I'm rooting for the double doomsday scenario where the big 12 doesn't even get anybody in. That would, that is a possibility. It's unlikely. It's very, it's pretty unlikely, but it could happen. I mean, at the start of the season, we were saying that there's no chance that a group of five gets a buy in the playoff. Yeah. But that's become a possibility. Yes. Now we're realizing that the double doomsday is also a possibility. I think if you're an SEC team, if you're if you end up with two losses and you're an SEC team, you really don't have a right to complain about anything. Unless you're Georgia pot potentially Georgia played a gauntlet schedule, potentially
Starting point is 00:29:35 Georgia. Now I understand that. Now I think Georgia might, they might be the best team in the country. Right. And they played, they, they did, they played Clemson non-conference. They had to play all their tough games on the road. George is the only one. But like the big thing is my big takeaway from this entire week is everyone, again, I think there was a coordinated hit against Indiana, which makes no sense to me because this is the last time they can say strength to schedule. Their strength to schedule is about to get a lot better because they're going to play Ohio State this weekend in Columbus. Let them play on the field before we say they shouldn't be in. If they get smoked on Saturday, then I'm fine. They shouldn't be in. But let them
Starting point is 00:30:12 actually play. Since when did we not like these underdog stories? Actually, I kind of know the answer to that. It's pretty much the minute the underdog takes the blue bloods away, which is what happens in all sports. Like we root for the underdog and then if the blue blood gets squeezed out, we're like, no, we don't want this underdog anymore. Texas and Penn State have been hiding behind their resumes for the entire time and no one's saying anything about that. Texas is hiding behind just like a multi-decade resume at this point, because if Texas loses, if they- They should be out. Then they should Cause if, if Texas loses, if they should be out, then they should be out. Right? A hundred percent two lost Texas team. They have no
Starting point is 00:30:49 big way. They don't have their best one is what in Michigan? No Vanderbilt Vanderbilt. Yeah. Yeah. And, and Penn state is the same way. I know Max, you don't like hearing that, but Penn state like a hundred percent they're hiding in plate. Like the, the, the ire has been at Indiana when it's like, how about Texas and Penn State. I have been saying we've been talking about this all day in the office. I need Ohio State to beat the shit out of Indiana. Right. Then that problems arise for Penn State. I think. Right. If Indiana wins this game or yeah because there could be. Yeah. But Texas Penn State will not lose a game probably. I think Minnesota this weekend. That's not easy. Yeah. That's not easy. And then they play, I think finished with Maryland. Texas could easily lose to
Starting point is 00:31:28 Texas A&M. It is a mess everywhere. I just didn't like the coordinated hit on Indiana. And I do have something very funny to share with you guys. This made me laugh. So Indiana Twitter shout out them. They've been fighting really hard and they've been going after people and I respect it. This guy, fifth ranked Indiana edits. I'm just going to assume he's a stoolie. Maybe not, but anyway, he said he posted a group chat with his friends that said, we need to get Dan Dockich involved in this SEC fight. Let's bring out the big guns. Gotta find a way to show the SEC is woke. And then Chris DePlante wrote, he quote tweeted Rossello and McShay talking. He said, hey, Dachich, the West Coast California liberals
Starting point is 00:32:16 are trying to steal another election, handing out a participation trophy to a two loss SEC team is utter woke nonsense, do something. And then Dachich like five woke nonsense. Do something. And then talk. It's like five minutes. My ass quote, treated the same tweet and said dudes that were this about Rossella McShay, dudes that were never in a locker room other than to take a peek, get an autograph or take a picture. It just like
Starting point is 00:32:38 mission accomplished. College football. Yeah, there's a quarterback, right? Yeah. But it was so funny that they weaponized the end talkage. That's how you do it. Rosillo lives in locker rooms. They're usually at an Equinox, but he's always in a locker room. Yeah, I just loved it. So shout out Indiana fans fighting the good fight on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I also love Joe Galloway. This is brain rot. So college football has their brain rot, and it's reached its peak with Joe Galloway, who says that Indiana should consider benching their quarterback Curtis Roark against Ohio State to avoid a repeat of what happened last year with FSU and their quarterback getting injured at the end of the season. It's broken everybody's brain and what I love about the college football playoff is you
Starting point is 00:33:21 expand the arguments. So there's in theory an argument that you could have every year about the 14 playoff and now you've just got so many other schools making a case that they deserve to be in it. Yada yada yada. My resume is better than this resume. But at the end of the day you can tell those teams that are bitching if they get left out. You should have won more games. Yeah. Sure. You should have won more games and that's about as simple as it gets. And you can do it with almost like listen I think Tennessee is a very good team. Obviously didn't go well for them in Georgia. Tennessee, you lost to Arkansas. Arkansas is not good.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You know, I get it. You play a tough schedule. Alabama, like you lost to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt had a nice run there, but they're not going to finish it. Like there's, if you have two losses and one of them isn't the best loss, like that's why Georgia- Or miss has two two bad bad losses. Yeah. Yeah. Well, wait, they lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Let's use a bad loss now. I mean, it was that was a crazy game. That was a pure Saturday night in Baton Rouge game. Kentucky is a bad loss. Kentucky is a bad loss. So yeah, it's just like you and I get it. Indiana. The one thing I like about like people complain about the unbalanced schedule now.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I kind of like it just because a team like Indiana can have a season like this where the schedule bounces their way and still they have to prove it they have to prove it in Columbus on Saturday so we were you saying about Joey Galloway further on that no I was I was done with Joey Galloway I just think it's funny that he's reached that point where he's like thinking through these scenarios to the point where he's got is that meme with the guy that's his brain is so big yeah he's playing chess against his own brain. Yeah, that's what Joe Joey Galloway is doing.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I was going to talk about George again, real quick. Oh, yeah. I think Georgia is the best team in the country when it was Texas and Georgia playing each. I said that Texas was good. I was wrong about that. But the more I've watched Georgia, the more I've kind of since there's no real dominant team in the SEC this year. I think Georgia at their best beats any team at their best. I think Georgia at their worst
Starting point is 00:35:12 also beats any team at their worst. Like the floor for Georgia is higher than any other team's floor. And I think that Georgia, like medium Georgia probably beats everybody at their medium except for maybe Alabama. I was gonna say, counterpoint Georgia, probably beats everybody at their medium except for maybe Alabama. I was gonna say, counterpoint Alabama, they literally can't beat Alabama.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, Alabama, that was a weird game because you had- But I'm saying like, in the past, Kirby can't. You had Alabama at their best and Georgia at their worst in the first half, then it flip-flopped in the second half. But Kirby can't beat Alabama. I think the way that Georgia's been playing recently, I think they are the best team in the country.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah. They're not a perfect team. I think Oregon's pretty damn good, too. I think Ohio State's pretty damn good. That's why I like the 12-team playoff. I think there's a lot of good teams. Ole Miss's defensive line can wreck anyone. Like, there's something about like seven or eight teams
Starting point is 00:35:59 where I'm like, yeah, if they do. Even in Miami, who I don't think is great, like their defense is great, Cam Ward can win a playoff game. You know, that's what I love about this. I also have no idea how to handicap a matchup between Oregon and Georgia. No idea. That to me, they might as well be playing in two different countries. Yeah. Like I don't, my brain can't comprehend what that matchup would even look like.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I know Oregon didn't look great against Wisconsin on Saturday. That was kind of like Wisconsin was throwing everything they had at them. And also Oregon, that was their eighth straight game. That was the longest streak of games without a bye week in the country. You could see that they were kind of running out of gas. All in conference, right? Yeah, they were running out of gas. So like I wasn't shocked that they were, they played with fire there I still think Oregon's very very good and they also like they have some of their guys I think they're running back is sud they have them on like load management Basically the end of that game will stop doing that once they get to the playoff the end of that game was insane when Dan Lanning
Starting point is 00:36:58 Faked a punt. Yeah, that was that was so stupid. I think that's probably eight games He's his brain is probably exhausted at this point. Yeah. Cause that was some dumb shit that he tried to pull. Yeah. He got away with it. Yeah. Yes. Troll, you had a question.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Go ahead, Troll. No, I won't ask it then. No, no, no, no, no, I want it. I want the troll question. You raise your hand. Come out of the, we need like a graphic where he like, he comes out from underneath the bridge. What do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:37:22 I want, this is what I want. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not trolling. Okay. Ask your non-triple. I want it. I want the question. I like our troll you are dismissed Henry Lockwood Do you have a question? I will go sit max and come sit on the couch. I'll go sit in the booth I want to plug wants like I I don't know what I'm supposed to do sitting in the seat You're doing it. You're doing a great job, but I'm not rolling but when you do troll you do a great job Like that's the people want what did you think about Oregon flipping the jump around on Wisconsin by just going absolutely nuts What do you mean the fans know the players? Yeah, a lot of a lot of teams do that How's yeah, you thought they took back jump around I kind of did yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, I know. Max doesn't think so. Guess what? Madison with the new teams and from the West Coast, there was a lot of Oregon fans there. Madison's a great college town. Everyone puts it on their list of places they want to go see. So we have a lot of fans show up. My buddy was there. He said there was Oregon fans everywhere. Bucket list. I was just curious. Okay, that wasn't troll. Never is how you're watching the Huskies doing
Starting point is 00:38:26 bad. Yeah. Play spoiler this week. That's, that's the other thing I want to say just in defense of Indiana. I know I'm defending Indiana a lot. You don't know year to year what your schedule is going to look like. Everyone, everyone read Florida state on their schedule this year thought I, I understand what you're going to say. They did. They did cancel a game against Louisville for Western Illinois. That does, that does hurt their case, but they had on their schedule Michigan and Washington, two teams that were in the national championship last year, two teams that their coaches left and their programs completely took a big step back. You can't really predict that part. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm rooting very hard for Indiana.
Starting point is 00:39:05 You're gonna say the Western Illinois thing, which is fair. Yeah, I learned about that like an hour ago. Oh, no, that's Louisville. Fans are all up in up in Indiana's face. Kurt Signetti was not the one who canceled the game. Yeah, but in Indiana's defense, like Indiana, if you look at their schedule this year compared to what Indiana has played in the past, you can't write any of these games down
Starting point is 00:39:24 as easy wins for Indiana. No. Like going into the season under a normal Indiana football team. This is a hard schedule for us because they have not been good at football and they turned it around and they are very good at football. I don't think that this is a fluke either. Yeah, they got they got good players. They got a great coach. Just got an extension, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Which I mean, extensions in college football See means nothing. It really means he had a temporary raise at least for the next like month And then he's probably free to go anywhere. He wants to like that contract on fire. Yeah Yeah, I mean nothing that they've done this year to me screams fluke at all. I think Signed he is he's a real deal. What are you looking at a schedule next year? Well, this was just what somebody else was. Oh yeah. That's not a good conference. They're noncon they've they've skipped non-conference. They decided to elect out of non-conference games. They do have to go to Oregon and Penn State. Oh, do you old dominion? Can I saw? Yeah. Can I saw state? Can I say one game this year? Then they fired their
Starting point is 00:40:25 coach and the tour over their program. Yeah. Indiana State Sycamores. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. They don't. They skipped. They skipped on conference. I wish Wisconsin wouldn't play Alabama to home and home. That sucks. It sucks. I'd rather have that be a win. We'd be ball eligible right now. You know what? There's really no need to schedule a tough out of conference schedule with a 12 team playoff. Well, you could make the case. Yes, you should, because if Indiana had played and beaten Louisville and then they lose to Ohio state, they would still have a case to be in the, in the 12 team playoff. If they lose to Ohio state and
Starting point is 00:41:04 they have no, no signature win, no big win, it's going to be in the, in the 12 team playoff. If they lose to Ohio state and they have no, no signature win, no big win, it's going to be harder to make that case. I would like to see an Indiana in it. Yeah. But you see what I'm saying? I know earlier, they would have a lot better of a chance. But if you schedule, if you schedule hard games for yourself out of a conference, it just makes it more likely that you're going to take away the possibility of you being in the playoff. Yeah. I mean, that's loser talk. It's Cowards way out.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah, those cowards. That's cowards. But guess what? The Cowards way out is working right now. Well no, it could backfire on them. If they get exposed. That's what I'm saying. If they lose to Ohio State by a lot, it actually will be the wrong approach because playing
Starting point is 00:41:38 in beating Louisville would have gotten them in. You're banking on the opportunity to get kicked out by your one tough loss that you have and then spending the time getting mad at the committee for not putting you in even though you only have one loss. Which as a loser is a pretty satisfying way to deal with it. Yeah. The big 12, so the big 12 could be left out.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I still don't think it's gonna happen. BYU lost to Kansas, which BYU has been playing with fire for a long time. Now we have Arizona State, who is a great story and has been playing great ball, could give BYU their second loss this weekend because they have to go down to Tempe. Our Colorado and Travis Hunter going to Kansas who's playing great ball as well is going to be a tough one. The Big 12 just eats itself alive also shout out Kenny Dillingham the coach Arizona State he is he's the guy who you're gonna try out for in the offseason yeah I've been working out he's awesome I've been
Starting point is 00:42:35 working the leg out the last couple days back on the peloton I think I can get up what if I 40 40 yards by my 40th birthday yeah I love that is that good enough I love that study law that good enough? I love that study law at Arizona State. Sure. They've got a good program. Right? Yeah, they've got every SP Prisco. What do you think that a law degree from Arizona State would get me? What's what would my hourly rate be? You'd be like, 100 bucks, good ambulance. Oh, I only know one person who went to Arizona State and he's got issues. I feel like law degree from Arizona State, a DUI specialist.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think that might be my goal. Yeah. I, yeah, the big 12 is going to be chaotic. They, this is what the big 12 was built on parody. The big 12 was built on the chaos. The Big 12's chaos. I unlike very unlikely But could fuck them. What are the chances? It's probably unlikely but Oklahoma State is having just an awful season They are shitty
Starting point is 00:43:36 Gundy's gonna stick around for forever, right? Yeah, and still water. Yeah, he's not going anywhere No, no matter how shitty it gets. I know not well, I mean unless he wants to leave Yeah, no jets Not a troll oh I mean memes Like there's that fine line of him being like you guys accused me of being controlled any kid Dude, Mike Gundy in New York would be so funny. Beans also is going off on Rossini back here right now.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Seriously, where is she getting these sources? Where is she getting these sources? Why does that make any sense? We just beat the shit out of the Patriots before that game. We did! I'm going to go out on a limb. I don't have any receding sources on this Yeah, but you are a receding source, but I'm saying I've not contacted my sources at receding incorporated
Starting point is 00:44:32 But I'm gonna guess with the timing of everything Maybe Joe Douglas was a source Memes it's just a little far-fetched to believe because they just beat the shit out of the Patriots on primetime the week before and they lost because of a missed field goal which would have made it a 12 to 10 ring when rain okay that really was the game that ended everything? Everything. Means Mike, I know. Yeah, Mike, I find Mike Gundy, Mike Gundy, Beth Poggi. Bring him on in. Dude, he's the best.
Starting point is 00:45:17 He was fired at Charlotte all time football guy. He's the dude that coaches and the cut off like the sleeveless vest on the sidelines. And is like independently very wealthy. Yeah, they they brought him back to practice this week. Yeah. You see that? Yeah. They let even though they fired him last week, they let him come onto the practice field and address the team. Say goodbye. Yeah. Which is I guess it's pretty cool for sure. Because he seems like a cool guy. Yeah. Means what I actually expect the jets to try to do possibly. Cliff Kingsbury. I saw people say that. No. It's tough bringing up scenarios to memes because he lives online, so no matter what scenario you bring up to him, he's like, yeah, I saw some tweets saying that earlier.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I've seen most scenarios and I don't like most of them. Okay. Mike Vrabel is the only one. I don't even think, I think we would ruin Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson would come in, he would just be Adam Gaste, 2.0. There's no chance Vrabel would go into that situation. No. Mm-hmm. I don't even I think we were room Ben Johnson Ben Johnson would come in he would just be Adam Gase 2.0. There's no chance for a boat would go into that situation No, you know Adam Gase 2.0. He would once you run it back Stop hyperdrive hyperdrive
Starting point is 00:46:16 I don't think there's a Coach that wants to coach the Jets that will be the Jets head coach next year. Wait, say that again. There's not a coach out there that wants to coach the coach. The kid next year won't want to coach the Jets. It'll just be the only available job open. Because they want to be a head coach. They don't want to be the coach.
Starting point is 00:46:38 So there's so it kind of sounds like you're saying there's no one out there who wants to coach the Jets. Correct. That's an easier way to say it. I like the way I say it. You gotta find a special teams coach that nobody knows about but is like a great leader of men. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, memes, again, we're in the same spot.
Starting point is 00:46:57 I do not think that the Bears will get the first- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have a rookie quarterback correct still has a potential But my point is I don't the Bears will the the number one choice the Bears could make They'll say we're not going to interview him because he's too much of a man the number two choice will probably say I don't want to coach for the Bears because that's a disfavorable number three choice like I'm gonna go do this we'll get the fourth or fifth we're not a we're not the top choice yeah we're not the top choice. Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:25 We're not top choice, right? We've never been the top choice team, but you're definitely a more attractive. Yes Then yes, but we're not a top choice team Does the fact sir college coach that the I feel like that's where the judge the Jets are at Make it right. Yeah, the Jets are at that point Like every franchise has been through this you try every other way you try to get guys that you think might be surefire hits, and none of them work out. And then you say, oh, fuck it. I'll try to get a hot shot college coach.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And we'll just see if that works, even though it has never worked, with the exception maybe Harbaugh. But I guess Harbaugh was a college coach. Pete Carroll, yeah, but he also had a previous stint in the NFL. For the Jets. For the Jets, yeah. The Jets tried dealing with Pete Carroll. yeah, but he also had like a previous stint in the NFL for the Jets for the Jets
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah, the Jets tried to the Pete Carroll point Jimmy Johnson New holes, yes, great NFL career. Yes You guys want to hear finish the college football talk with one of the craziest stats I've ever seen Sure, not Travis Hunter who should be the Heisman. He needs to be we need Colorado needs to be Kansas. Kansas is very good now. That's a great great touchdown running head. By the way, how sick this is a really stupid thought, but how sick would it be if the commanders drafted the Kansas quarterback as the backup? Yeah, no, I don't want that because I was
Starting point is 00:48:44 getting I was doing this. So I was rooting for Kansas on Saturday night when I was watching the game just because they kept saying, Jalen Daniels. Yeah, and it made me feel like half excited. Yeah, it would be cool. It would be cool. Yeah. Here's the crazy stat. So Kentucky is playing Kentucky is playing Texas this weekend. That is the farthest west Kentucky football has ever played a football game. Oh, wow. Good set. That's crazy. It's like half the country.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Half the country. Kentucky has never played a football game west of Austin, Texas. Not even a bowl game? Nope. That's nuts. Not even a bowl game. Not even a bowl game? Nope. That's nuts. Not even a bowl game. Not even a bowl game. This is from Brian Davis. What was the previous record?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Was that Baton Rouge? They played in Austin like 40 years ago. So they're matching their previous record. Well, depending on where the stadium is. I think DKR has been in the same spot okay but did they add to it they did add to it or did they add to it west they built a highway an overpass next to it but I don't know if they moved it if they did move it I think they would have moved it a little bit north west because there's another field next to it. Yeah. So it could possibly be the furthest they've ever gone. UK's last game at Texas was 73 years ago. That's crazy. So this is the furthest
Starting point is 00:50:14 that was Bear Bryant coaching them. Bear Bryant was a Kentucky coach in 1951. That's just nuts to me. Never played a game further west than Austin, Texas. Okay. Never played a game further west than Austin, Texas. Okay, Darryl K Royal Stadium has been home to the Longhorns football team since 1924 okay, so I'm thinking it has not moved but have they added to the stadium Which I assume they did they add to the same so the fans might be the furthest away from Kentucky But I don't where do they walk in? Has the she has the entrance changed is it further west than East? I think the entrance is on the south side. Okay I'm not sure I'll get I'll get boots on the ground to answer this and find out if there's any Orientation of the field that's changed at all. Okay
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah, like even if they change the layout of the field and and like one of the end zone goes like five feet further west Mm-hmm. I'm looking at the furthest west they've ever played right now I'm actually looking at the history of the renovations at DKR Stadium They added suites and when was the date of that game 51 1951 anything post 1951 here They added lights. So that was a day game. Okay This is the important stuff I'm not I Think it might be because they expanded both end zones. Okay, so the walk-in is Gonna be further away. No matter what okay, so yeah, we might have something okay
Starting point is 00:51:31 You're watching history when you watch that kid. Yep. Okay last thing before we kick it to ourselves Hank Good job. We're gonna talk about the Cavs with Pat Bev, but you broke up the Cavs. Yep. Pop the champagne. NBA Cup. They actually are very fun games. It does feel like they try harder. I will say two things because there has been also a lot of talk and reports about the NBA ratings being down and ask people, you know, asking what the causes I do like the NBA Cup. It makes important the Celtics lost the game last week to the Hawks. I never should have lost. And all of a sudden, if they had lost tonight, then they would be screwed for the NBA Cup. It makes it important. The Celtics lost the game last week to the Hawks They never should have lost and all of a sudden if they had lost tonight Then they would be screwed for the NBA Cup, which is crazy, but it made tonight's game that much more interesting. I Do not like the court I don't like I don't I think for a casual fan
Starting point is 00:52:18 It's gonna take a while for them to get the NBA Cup. It just doesn't help It's like what is wrong with this court then you have to explain this whole long NBA Cup thing Not a fan of the court. I disagree. I also hate wait. Wait, are you not a fan of the court? Are you not a fan of explaining to people the courts? I just don't like personally watching them and it's like why are they doing this and they they say it's because it's for the NBA Cup. I just don't think that's ever gonna click to a casual fan like ooh new court. I like it because it feels different I like it because it comes with some nice time lapses like you get to watch when you see them you know changing the court out and the game
Starting point is 00:52:52 feels different yeah it feels it looks like you're watching on Twitch it looks like it's in a twitch streamers room yeah and I just hate the Celtic City Connect jerseys this year what are they they're they they're Oregon jerseys I don't understand the like City Connect we're gonna connect it back to a city The Celtics have had the same Jersey and like scheme forever and they just made jerseys. They legitimately look like Oregon Yeah, I don't love the the the crazy jerseys in the NBA is too many and the Cavs were playing on on Sunday And they're wearing blue jerseys like the we've talked about it before the show But it's like when you turn on a game
Starting point is 00:53:24 You can't tell what the teams are unless you look at the scoreboard like that's a problem it was when the Heat were wearing a yellow jersey and look like the Pacers that I was like this is too much and it was I think the Blazers and Nuggets were playing and the Nuggets were wearing the Blazers colors either way we are doing we're running a contest so we release our picks we told you contest so we release our picks. We told you last week. We release our picks on socials every single Tuesday for our NBA Cup picks So far we have the first day. So this isn't counting what's playing right now
Starting point is 00:54:00 I'm three and O PFTs two and one Hanks two and one max your one and two. So you're at the bottom of both Yeah, and we're recording this late right now. Some some I just got absolutely fucked in my pick for tonight okay so but the NBA Cup you can bet on in Draft Kings and you can follow our picks and we're running a competition so we'll have the updated leaderboard I think I went two and one I'm gonna be three and three I went one and two yeah shit I'm still waiting on the, uh, the Spurs thunder. I like the NBA cup though. It does feel different. I, there's November NBA is tough to get into. And then you turn on the TV and it's different court. You're like, Oh, okay. They're trying a little harder. I want to win it. No teams ever won the NBA cup and the finals. So see you don't kiss finals after you counting it retro. No, no, no, no. We have to win the
Starting point is 00:54:43 finals after. Yeah. Same year. Yeah. Yeah, Chris Paul has five assists. I need two more. It's halftime. I'm just gonna count that as a win Oh, so I'm two and oh, well, congrats. Thank you one and one right now. I need a date tonight Need over you need a wait wait say that again Yeah, I need a D I need a I need a D I need a D you need a D bad I need a D. I need a I need a D. I need a D. I need a D. I need a D bad I need a D bad big big way bad bad and craving a D. I need I need a D to be huge Okay, let's do hot seat cool throne and then we have Pat Bev Okay, hot Seat Cool Throne time. It is brought to you by our friends at Core's Light.
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Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, I mean that's Joey Joey was Joey Stamos wasn't an uncle no Joey Jesse was an uncle Jesse was an uncle I said it wrong Danny was a dad uncle Joey Joey was the comedian that just lived cut it out yeah he just lived in the house very sad but he was he revealed that he had a cancer diagnosis John Stamos then to show support of him Did a Photoshop of him wearing a bald cap and posted that yes, and now is his way to show it crazy crazy crazy Move wait it was a photo He did a photo shop of him wearing a bald cap put on a bald cap right and then he also photoshopped it
Starting point is 00:57:22 So look even extra extra bald more bald. I think he I think he photoshopped where. To make him look even extra bald. Extra bald, more bald. I think he photoshopped where the lines on the bald cap are. Yeah. Sounds like... Face tuned, yeah. Insane move. Maybe his heart was in the right place? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I don't know. Couldn't cut his hair off? Well, I'll say this. For his friend? I'll say this. There's one very lucky woman that's made the right decision not having to hang around that guy Stamos anymore. That would be Rebecca Romaine. Yeah, talk about an upgrade moving on to joc. I had it as my cool thrown for joc. Cool thrown joc joc is a stand up guy joc would never do that
Starting point is 00:57:57 joc is the just to shave his head. Yeah, 100% or just make a joke about how he's not going to shave his right and make it very funny and he would probably his lap like JOC making you laugh would cure cancer Yeah, like that's how funny is Bing Bong Jesse. Yeah Yes, he would look at like Bing Bong cancer you're out Bing Bong this is Rebecca, you know, Rebecca This is this was crazy though. like the fact that he did this I guess the only little small part is that he admitted to it like it would have been worse if he had just pretended that he shaved his head but still an Insane insane move you I mean just in
Starting point is 00:58:37 How big of a narcissist do you have to be extremely that's that's really what it is It's like how it is the how do I make this about me right? Don't even just don't even or just Shave your head or just don't shave your head in which you didn't do and just don't wear bald cap Be like I'm here visiting my friend. I hope he gets better She's also some guys cost his culture is not your cost right? Yeah, some guys look better with a shaved head Hank Thank you one of them acts He looks like it just an evil like an alien billionaire
Starting point is 00:59:05 He's a penis head. What a dick. JLC made me chuckle pretty hard Monday night He just tweeted like need 44 from mixing tonight He almost got it. Yeah, but that's just like a that's a very like yeah fantasy Monday night Yeah, just let me I got one guy left. Just need of 44. Yeah, and we win this week Yeah, he we're gonna have JLC on I think Next week for an update on the fantasy. I missed JLC. Yeah, we're gonna have them because I know people in asking My cool throne is Paul skeins. Yeah, that was Was he in the hot seat though, he was on the cool throne. She had two cool tones. I had two cool thrones
Starting point is 00:59:43 I thought I was gonna be okay and and it turns out I'm not. So Paul Skeen's great speech last night. Can we play it? He was... Yeah, I don't wanna, is it gonna take too long? It probably will, Max is really bad at this. Notice the speech goes on for a while. Oh, I thought you meant Max pulling it up.
Starting point is 01:00:00 No, it's, I don't know if we have memory on the SD card. But yeah, really hard fellow speech. Oh, we don't have sound't sound again. Wait hit the sound thing. Yeah, there you go producer Yep, I was waiting for a good time for you to start playing it guy. Okay guy guy. Yeah, come on guy From all of us what does this honor mean to you right now? This is cool. That's it. He crushed it. So good.
Starting point is 01:00:29 This is cool. That you know what you're saying? You know what? That was cool. It was cool. And what more do you need to say? Yeah, this is cool. We don't need victory speeches where guys get up there and they misuse the word
Starting point is 01:00:40 humble a million times, like every single award show that it's literally them sucking your dick and God's dick and giving you an award for being great and being better than everybody else. And then you get behind the microphone. You're like, Yeah, now that you guys have all told me how great I am. The first word that comes to mind is humble. Yeah. Yeah, the meme of Paul skeins winning the rookie of the year and Paul skeins sitting in a fire truck is so much happier to be in a fire truck. But that's much happier to be in a fire truck.
Starting point is 01:01:05 But that's that's what fire trucks do to people. Yeah, fire trucks are fucking cool. So did you hit scubal? I that now with this when the award they they draw the whole thing out. So tonight, if you're listening to this tonight, Terrick scubal will win the AL Cy Young. What is it like the 12 days of Christmas? It's crazy awards For the awards. I've been waiting for this forever.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Shout out the AWL. I gotta track him down, who handed me an envelope on when we were in Detroit for the draft. And I opened the, he handed it to me, walked away, opened it and said, take Turks scubal plus 400 to win the Cy Young. It's fucking great.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Why doesn't Major League Baseball do this like in the middle of the playoffs? I know. Or before the playoffs start? Or just do like, I, I. Or do it all in one night? There was like. It's Major League Baseball in California. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:55 It's the same thing that they have going on there, like counting all the baseball writers' signatures and matching them up to make sure the mail-in ballots are legit. There was a, I want to say there was some type of event going on in Vegas with all the baseball players Why didn't they just do all the announcements then? It makes no sense. It makes no sense Does oh, yeah, shout out that AWL. I gotta find it. I'm gonna find the original tweet Just been sitting there for six months, but he nailed it. Imagine if he doesn't win I mean you've jinxed
Starting point is 01:02:25 this as much as any human being could possibly jinx it. He was minus two thousand the last time you could bet on it. He has to win it. Yeah that would be insane if he didn't win it. I would be like voter fraud. This is unjinxable. Yeah what are his... I mean... You're Gucci. Oh shut up. I hate that you just did that. Yeah his last odds were minus five thousand eight hundred and two Is that right? Is that possible? That's on that. I mean if he loses there's someone in MLBs out to get me You know what I might I might fucking load up and see if I can just make some quick money on Five thousand. Yeah, let's go. We're giving that out. I'm giving that out as an official pick I saw young pick an official pick how much money can I deposit into the responsibly? I don't think it's actually I don't think it's up Anymore yeah, I'm just gonna see hey. Can you try to pull those odds up? Yes, not up, okay?
Starting point is 01:03:17 But let the record show I would have endorsed that pick yes my hot seat is the Utah Hockey Club. Piece, you pieces of shit. You don't even have a fucking name. What kind of professional sports organization goes entire season just naming themselves after the sport? Alexander Vechkin was taken out by dirty knee to knee hit last night. Oh, after scoring two goals, getting within 27 goals of
Starting point is 01:03:47 tying Wayne Gretzky's all-time record, excuse me, 26 of tying the record, 27 of passing the all-time goals record. And he was on the best streak of his life, the way that Ovi started the season out, 39 years old, top goal scorer in the NHL, The caps are on fire right now and Ovi is just insane. And how many, so is he hurt? Yeah, they said week to week, lower leg injury. I looked at every single online Twitter doctor out there and they came to the conclusion probably a torn MCL or a sprained MCL, which is the same thing depending on what grade the sprain is. Uh, so he's week to week now, which probably means he'll be out for, I don't know, three
Starting point is 01:04:29 weeks, but Ovi's different. Russian machine never break. That was his famous quote when they asked him how he's, how he's been able to stay healthy throughout his career. So I'm just going to hope and pray that whatever Putin's got left in the vault, he can send over just to inject it directly into Ovi's knee The that's the worst too because you can never figure out what a hockey injury is no Just no they will give no details nothing. You can't even see like when when a guy gets hit
Starting point is 01:04:57 He's got so many pads on that you can't you know where we zoom in on like a football player or basketball player like oh That's exactly what it was You just have no idea. Yeah, and then I was watching right afterwards He goes back on the ice to try to skate on it. See if he can do it tough and your hockey tough And it looks like he's skating around but in reality He's just like barely touching one leg down and i'm like, oh he can skate No, you forget that they're wearing ice skates and so they can just glide on the other leg. Shit Uh, so yeah, it's not good bad for hockey I would say yeah I'd agree I had I had done the math on this last night when he was on his tear and on this pace you know
Starting point is 01:05:31 when he would have broken Wayne Gretzky's record when it would have been at Edmonton mmm felt like that was set up and he was gonna break it are you talking about this like two goals a game pace that he's been no no I took my own I did my own Hader Hank yeah no but like I did my own pace. I saw I saw yeah I saw your tweet and I was like that Did you start at Edmonton and work your way back? I know I did I did that my second time to see if I could like increase the pace or decrease the pay It was like will I break the record this year? That'd be crazy and PFT was like January 21st
Starting point is 01:06:04 It was like will I break the record this year? That'd be crazy and pft was like January 21st my My pace my pace that I had him on had him scoring. I think it was like point seven five goals per game Okay, which is taking it's not as good of a pace as he's been on So at that pace he would have broken it at Edmonton right now I don't know if he's gonna break it this season which it stinks to maybe have to wait another year for this And people forget Ovi Ovi lost to you a full year to the first rock lockout And then I think he lost like 50 games to the second lockout Plus kovat lost games to that too. So he's actually he is on pace right now to break
Starting point is 01:06:42 Gretzky's record in fewer games than Gretzky played in, which is kind of crazy. That is crazy. Ovi's been so much fun to watch his entire career. He was like the one bright light that DC Sports had for a very long time. So I've been counting down to this for like the last seven years, once it was theoretically possible. So it stinks that those bastards in Utah sent a hit out. Gretzky's got shooters.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I wouldn't be surprised if Gretzky told Biz, like, hey, can you get on the horn with some of the guys that are up in Utah? I know you know a lot of them from your time in Arizona. Could you have? I blame Biz. This is on Biz. That's fair. Dirty guy.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Fuck you, Biz. Mother Hot Seat is Netflix because they're under a lot of pressure right now from the NFL yeah to make sure that they don't fuck up the Christmas Day stream like they did the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight. Antonio Brown could save their ass. How? He live streamed from his phone the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight and he had seven million people watching. It's pretty good. He's taking a little pressure off him. It's pretty. So he was live streaming from his Netflix. I think, no, I think he was in the arena. He was just doing the video board. I love that. Seven million people were watching. I love that. Did Antonio Brown have something to do with the roof panels falling off? I
Starting point is 01:07:57 don't know. Wouldn't surprise me. No. Yeah. So Netflix is in trouble because Christmas Day with the Beyonce concert at halftime Probably gonna have more viewers. I think yeah Jake Paul. It's gonna be close cuz that that fight did numbers. Yeah. Yeah It's gonna be close. I don't know 60 was 60 million Was the total they were watching so it might not be Average NFL game is what, 20 million? I feel like this fight was like 34, 36 million. I don't know what the total was.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I think it was more than that. I think it was. I saw a 60. I saw a 60 as well. Either way, Netflix gotta figure it out. They can just make numbers up. Yeah, they absolutely can. I guess that would be cool throwing an NBA for Christmas Day.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Oh, they got. Might be getting more ratings. No, they got cocked. No, people would rather watch the wheel spin. The wheel spinning more ratings. No, they got cocked. No people would rather watch the the wheels spin wheel spinning Yeah, yeah, I mean how you gonna compete with Beyonce although the oh no, that's thanks. No, it's Steelers chiefs the Thanksgiving games suck Whoa You want to suck one of them suck which one's the Packers backers dolphins pretty good. I guess yeah, but yeah the other ones suck hypothetically bears lions
Starting point is 01:09:06 Sucks hypothetically if if the stream was not working on Netflix on Christmas Day Let's say 12 o'clock Central Time That's when you're supposed to start we tune in we start to watch it doesn't work for anybody Does the NFL just delay the game until it can get broadcast or do they play it? No, because those, no, but in those situations, the tech guys are like, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. All business Pete is sitting there being like, it's fine. I don't see any issues. People are saying that it's fine. I can get on my phone right here in the stadium. Yeah. Like seriously, that would be an interesting problem for the NFL to have. I think that
Starting point is 01:09:43 they would delay the game. I think they would delay it as long as it took to get a broadcast, right? Yeah, cuz you can't you can't play a football game and not have it be on TV. I'd agree Question. Yeah, why can't they just like get? The product the Amazon guys and just be like hey help us. Yeah, just do do this We'll pay you a zone saying like that Peacock or why would Bezos help Netflix? Bezos ain't like, bam, you just pay. It's the product. They're all different productions. That's true. Just get a bigger router.
Starting point is 01:10:16 What? Why now? Because Bezos wanted this game like it's like they competed. Netflix won the rights to Christmas. Hey, we cucked you've got these rights, but now actually we need your help. Yeah, they're gonna be like sure there be a suck my dick I feel like there's gotta be like Produce a different production team that can put this I serve I don't know that it's the production team. I think it's the Service infrastructure they need a bigger router. Yeah, right Need a bigger router. Yeah, no, I think Amazon would be like no abs It was like like fuck you for even asking us Amazon has all the servers. Do you think Pete could do it? No
Starting point is 01:10:53 Absolutely, not he had the servers. Yeah, I guess if he had the server I feel like Pete could do it. No No, it's just that servers and servers Pete. I want you to know that I think that you could do it I think Pete with no issues no issues Also, can we plug and change some some computers? Speak could definitely do it everyone tweet everyone tweet all business Pete when you're listening to us and say pug and Shane need We know they don't have the desktops. We don't yelling at me to get the desktops. And I know. I know. And Pete also, I think Pete has some free month trials
Starting point is 01:11:30 for Netflix. So if anyone wants it for the game, tweet him and ask for a code. Yeah, Netflix codes. Yeah. I like how Hank said that Netflix bought the rights to Christmas. They did.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Christmas is owned by Netflix. They did. The handle's at all business Pete. At all business Christmas is owned by Netflix. They did. The handles at all business Pete. At all business Pete. Tweet him. Do you think, I mean the craziest part about what Netflix did to Christmas and the NBA is that they put it on their own app where you can't even flip back and forth to the NBA games. It takes you 30 seconds. When the people with multiple TVs get a nice win. Yep get a nice win Okay, your cool throw. My cool thrown is the US men's national team and their new coach
Starting point is 01:12:11 Pochettino because he beat Jamaica 4-2 and some tournament that I always forget the name of involving the words Nations League Conca calf champions tournament So they won 4-2 with burr halter in the stands. They made Burrhalter go out and watch the game. He sat in a little cuck chair in the corner and watched Pepe and Pucilich dominate, just crushed Jamaica. Is, not to get political, but the Trump celebration is pretty fun. How the guy, everyone's doing it. Is Pulasic getting under fire. He did it I don't think he's good. I don't know if he's getting under fire
Starting point is 01:12:49 I've seen more people saying like what will it's gonna be fun to watch libs freak out about yeah I feel like it's just a fun. So I think it's just a fun dance to do and yeah, you just do this Anyone can do it. Yeah Yeah, so they went 42 against Jamaica which leads us to a fun fact that now the U S men's national team. And in fact, Greg Burrhalter himself, who was fired in July of this year, he's got more wins in AT&T stadium this year than Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys. Wow. Wait, who, who does? Greg Burrhalter, the fire or has more,
Starting point is 01:13:24 but that wasn't the game obviously last night So we're playing football. They were playing football last night. So he had already had that he already has those ways Yeah, even though he got fired in July got it. Mike McCarthy will be fired It doesn't have as many wins, even though he plays many more. That is a fun fact I thought that was a fun fact very fun fact. All right, my hot seat is well, we're gonna talk about with Pat Bev But I feel like we kind of glossed over it this Tyrese Maxey Joel Embiid thing is feels for real What happened so Tyrese Maxey called out Joel Embiid in a meeting and said that he's late and disrespectful to everyone
Starting point is 01:14:00 I didn't realize that this is just like a well-known fact that he's always done this everyone. I didn't realize that this is just like a well-known fact that he's always done this. Uh, there was a book written what in 2015 where everyone was like, Joel and beat is just a terror to work with. Uh, feels like, it feels like things are bad right now. Maxine and beat are friends. They challenge each other often. What does that mean? Apparently it was a constructive meeting. Where does that mean that they challenge each other? What about the 2017 comments?
Starting point is 01:14:26 How many times did you practice this speech in the mirror before you sat down? Zero time. That's a that's that's fake. Maxine and Peter friends. They challenge each other. You had that ready to go. No, I mean, that's just that's just a fact. What about the allegations from the past?
Starting point is 01:14:41 What were the allegations in the past Hank? That he showed up late and that he was a terror to the whole staff Oh, yeah, yeah, what was basically a 2017 or whatever that yeah that book gives up whatever the book I think that was maybe his rookie year Yeah, it was when Brown was the coach and he was mad because all of his assistants came up to him And they're like hey We have to have an intervention with you because Joel is such a huge asshole to everyone 50 that we needed to escalate this to the head coach Wait you take two is it what's it? What's the date?
Starting point is 01:15:11 Worried about something ten years ago nearly every member of the sixer staff basketball was awaiting him. Why are we here? Brown asked he knew the meeting was about him bead but didn't understand one of the assistant coaches stood up and said coach We're here because there's a problem with Joel he's disrespected just about everyone in this room and has become a major distraction. You want to say something about when you were 18 Franny Leiden. Oh I'm just saying. Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh still a problem 10 years later then yeah it's probably like a bad sign. Yeah if Hank was still on that's not a problem like him showing up late isn't that's different. You think that's not a problem. No that. What about the city. I've said it wasn't a problem. But what about the people. No this is maybe the
Starting point is 01:15:52 first time and beads ever been challenged. That's not. They it said in the thing that and Maxie and Embiid go back and forth at each other because there's a mutual respect and friendship. Sounds like there's not a lot of respect for a beat You know what you guys this is where the national podcast thing turns disgusting Alright fine. All right new segment alert Hank to segment Disgusting okay new segment regional podcast Philly. We're all right. Philly. Hey, welcome back to locked on Sixers. We're about to be losing the wizards in the standings, but like Joel's
Starting point is 01:16:32 done so much for our cities, you know, we got to give them some respect. I know it's disgusting with some of the reporters in the locker room. We're trying to do to divide us. I need to be unified and we're a great team. I don't think that we change anything. We don't change anything except maybe we keep the fucking reporters out of the locker room. Well, respectfully, Anthony and Gino, I disagree. Joe and Bede's a bum. He's a bum. He doesn't respect the hardworking people of Philadelphia. I get up at every morning, five o'clock, think about the construction workers and the trash workers and Joe and Bede can't be there at 10 AM.m. I don't shoot around the
Starting point is 01:17:06 problems the problems with Joel started to get much more clear when Nick fucking Sirianni walked through this door and he took his paws and put them all over a city and fucked it all up. Can't win a second round matchup but he can give us an MVP. So you know you got to think about what he's given to us. No that that's loser talk, Anthony. All right. How'd we do? Great. Really good. I fucking love the fluffy eagles. It feels like a problem. Two and 11 in, and this feels like a problem. Yeah. It's November 19th. Okay. So here's Max. Here's where I love these six are dead. Here's where I think the real problem is. Um, I'm sure that conversations like this happened a lot in NBA locker rooms and we never hear about
Starting point is 01:17:55 them. I'm sure they're commonplace. I agree with, but the fact that it got out, that tells me that there's something there tells me that people are sick of his shit because usually it wouldn't get out if it Joe and beat is maybe not been the best teammate shows up late, whatever the story is. But if he's playing well and the team's doing well, that stuff never gets out. He's playing poorly. The team's playing poorly. Now the cracks start happening. He's not even playing.
Starting point is 01:18:22 There's a mole. There's a mole in the organization, which we got to sniff out, because that should never have gotten out. That's correct. But what if this is the turning point of the whole season? And then we look back to this moment. This is a strange turning point. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Or tank Cooperflag. Oh. No. I'm all right with both of those. You don't get to say that. You don't get to say that you don't get to say that because when I said yeah that I I want Cooper flag and I'm projecting Cooper flag this is you said we are out you said the sixes yes true I'm still in
Starting point is 01:18:53 you're out big cat could get him I'm out you you said I was out yeah but I know now I'm back in no you can't know you're out to that no back in no legal that's illegal I didn't realize I did that Yeah, I did. I was out to I'm a man of my word. I think you hang out Thank you, Hank man of honor. What's crazy is that you're tied with the Wizards right now? Yeah, I mean it doesn't it all doesn't fucking matter. What point will it matter? Christmas so how many wins you have to have by Chris how many times have we said on this show that they made it on StarTel Christmas? I understand, but I want to hold you to this. So if this wasn't the Sixers, no one would care.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Okay, agreed. We would not be talking about this. Okay, if it was the Celtics, no. If it was the Celtics, we would absolutely be talking about it. Correct. So, lie. Yeah, but Sixers, Celtics, that's it. Lie. But Max, that's because you have these players, like the narrative that's been around them. The Bucks fucking suck, we don't talk about that at all. I have I've brought it up multiple times I mean what are we gonna say that there's a mole in the the balls of the wizard like we suck nobody would care about Yeah, all right, so you have 13 games Christmas is your 13th game How many wins do you have to have to be like this is a problem? There's 13 games until Christmas I think you got to get to 10
Starting point is 01:20:07 wins I know 10 is the 10 sounds wait like way too many let me see the schedule so you got to go 10 wins and you got to do so you got to go eight and five that's not that hard eight and five yeah five five eight 10 wins I can find you some Orlando twice without oh power. There you go. Chicago, Charlotte twice Detroit. Yeah, there's a eight. Yes. 10 wins, 10 wins. Got 10 wins by Christmas. Let's go 10 wins by Christmas. We're not allowed to talk about it this until Christmas. All right. But you have to get to 10 wins. Yep. What if Yabu's the mole? That's never happened with people Paul. All right. Alright so Max there's been a new
Starting point is 01:20:46 wrinkle. A wrinkle reveal. To the 76ers drama, to the saga. I want a saga. What's the saga? We're doing this later on at night 937. Somebody thinks that they found the leak of who reported this or of who gave the scoop away. Okay. This is from Raptor Mode. Wait Max, Max, Max. I feel like memes right now scoop away. Okay. Is this is from Raptor moment? Wait Max Max. I like memes right now Let me finish. All right. This from Raptor moments. This is a stretch Raptor moment. Yeah Raptor moment. Oh Is this source? Yeah. Well here just hear me out here. Okay, wait, that's this is What's the name of the Twitter? This is a Raptor moment. This is a
Starting point is 01:21:31 What huh? This is what's the name of the Twitter? This is a Raptor moments. This is a burner. What? Huh? Okay. Okay. Well, just just wait. Yeah, I'll hear it. Okay. I hear the wrinkle. All right. So the quote from the article was Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room. A person involved in the meeting told ESPN. If you go back to the Raptors over the last couple years, Nick Nurse is very fond of using the phrase elephant in the room. He's done at least three times. A common phrase. A common phrase. This is this is an insane addition. This is like Tatum stealing people's quotes and the quotes are like let's fucking go. Be like, what's his name? For saying an elephant in the room?
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah, for saying an elephant in the room. Everyone says an elephant in the room. That's like every report ever. This is Raptor Moments. I believe Raptor Moments. This account has 2,000 followers. But wait, Raptor Moments isn't actually reporting anything. They're literally just being like, look, this phrase was used and this phrase was used. Yeah raptor moments is connecting the dots, right?
Starting point is 01:22:28 But he's not he you can't believe what Raptor moments because Raptor moments doesn't have any actual knowledge of this No, what no actual knowledge whatsoever. Yeah, he's just saying oh Nick nurses said elephant in the room and this person did mm-hmm So Nick nurses the I liked I like and this person did. Mm hmm. So Nick nurses, the I liked, I liked the thought. I do like to believe that coach is snitching on his players only meetings. That is a funny thought. Yeah. So I'm going to believe it. It also wasn't a player's only meeting. Another fan pointed out that in a past NBC sports Philadelphia story it's explained that Nick nurse said on Danny Green's podcast in 2018 that he had a mini elephant on his desk in
Starting point is 01:23:07 Toronto Which metaphorically helped him prevent obvious concerns with a team from growing before being addressed Nick Nurse loves the phrase elephant in the room Everyone uses Elephant in the room you use the phrase When there's an elephant in the room, you use the phrase, elephant in the room. He's right about that. Yeah, but if you walk into Nick Nurse's office, there's always an elephant in the room. He has an elephant on his desk to remind himself of elephants in rooms.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Have you ever used the phrase, elephant in the room? Not to a reporter. Wait, what was the original quote? The original quote. It was the most standard quote of all time. I'll read, I'll read the quote. Uh, Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room. He was talking about how Tyrese loves Joel.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Wait, but who wrote that? That was in the ESPN report. So that wasn't even a quote! What? What? No, that is a quote. The direct quote is from an anonymous source. The direct quote is Tyrese loves the big fella. But this is the elephant in the room. No, no, Max, you don't know how to read quotation marks. Tyrese is the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room is the quote. From an anonymous source. Anonymous source with the sexers. Max, you're looking at an apostrophe. That's just the one mark. The quotation mark is two. Who gives a a fuck everybody says elephant in the room when
Starting point is 01:24:26 there's an elephant in the room I mean it seems like Nick nurse is obsessed with elephants who else would the source be then Max because it seems like we got one good lead and nothing else yeah that's a great lead hey okay here's the only only pushback I'd have is wasn't part of the report that the Sixers players were like, Hey Nick nurse, you need to coach us harder. Why would Nick nurse leak that his players are mad at him? Because he also in the report, they said that in turn the players have to pay more attention to detail. Okay. So maybe it is Nick nurse. So maybe Nick nurse in the meeting was like, that's fair criticism. I'm going to hear you. But can I ask you to also you buy in as well and we'll meet in the middle. Good coaching.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Okay. I'm on team. Yeah. It was Nick Nurse. This is stupid. This is a stupid thing. I mean Max, I think everybody agrees. You swayed me. Could you imagine if memes got this news? We should stop listening to reports. We just went from the athletic to Raptors moment Raptors moments with an s we should stop listening to reports. It's fucking us up. Oh
Starting point is 01:25:34 Okay back to whatever we were talking about Okay, my cool throne is Kentucky basketball because I don't know if you guys saw, but John Calpa Perry is now begging fans to show up to basketball games at Arkansas. And he was like, if you don't want to come to the game, give us the tickets back, we'll find someone who can come to the game. And they have also not looked great in the start of their season. And then on the
Starting point is 01:26:03 other side, Kentucky, there's a clip going around. That's awesome. It's Mark Pope coaching in the huddle, essentially telling his players exactly what Cooper flag is going to do on that last possession against Duke and being like, this is how we're going to defend it. He's going to spin. You're going to, we're going to send the extra man two hands, take the ball away. And then it's like a cut up where he's saying it. And it happens exactly like that.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Something that Kentucky basketball is missing, that in game coaching. So Kentucky basketball, good for you guys. Yeah. It's an awesome clip. It makes you think that Mark Pope is, is going to be a great coach. Yeah. But we are very easily sold on clips like that.
Starting point is 01:26:41 It's like, cow in the red looks weird. And then him being like, please come to the games. Yeah. Not, not a great look. They are three in one. They lost to Baylor who's a pretty good team, but they also have kind of like, they had a couple of games where they were struggling a little bit with lesser competition. Yeah. It's not, I would say so far Kentucky won this trade. Yes, for sure. Um, and also Kentucky won this trade. Yes, for sure. And also Kentucky, this also is probably because they were playing against Duke, but Kentucky seemed like a fun team. Yes. Like an easy fun team to root for. I'm sure that once they start becoming more
Starting point is 01:27:15 Kentucky, then they will be easier to hate. But going up against Duke and beating Duke in that way, it made me feel things for the University of Kentucky. I got a little soft spot for Kentucky. I got no problem with Kentucky. And it's probably because it's 2015. What? I guess you beat them. Yeah, right. Like it's just... They beat you.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I know, but it's also like that was, I mean, they were undefeated that season. So, and I love Matt Jones and those guys. So yeah, I want Kentucky basketball to be good. I might be an honorary member of Big Blue Nation. I don't know. Mark Pope. I mean, very loosely honorary. Meaning like I'd put a future on him and be like, go Kentucky. And then then they lost. He'd be like, oh, well, I lose it anyway. I like Kentucky. You're right. The sport is better when Kentucky basketball is good. I just I will say and repeat
Starting point is 01:28:01 whatever propaganda Kentucky fans want me to do. If it means that I get one step closer to at one point becoming a Colonel, being a Kentucky Colonel, that'd be sick. That would be sick. Um, okay. We have more basketball talk with our guy, Pat Bev. It is brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Uh, there's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks. And that's because for part of my take, there's only one pickup truck, the Chevy Silverado. Why is that?
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Starting point is 01:31:10 I thought World War III had broken out when you walked into the gambling cave on Sunday, unannounced. I was like, why is Pat here? Why is he, like I thought he was in the middle of the season. So you have a break. You have a break. And you are how far into the season in Israel?
Starting point is 01:31:24 About two and a half months in. And how's the team playing? Phenomenal, number one team in Israel right now. Number one team? Number one team, yeah. How are you playing? Phenomenal. Yeah, I've been fucking hooping.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Yeah, it's been fun. How is the game different over, like is it, when you go over there, because you've played obviously in different leagues around the world before, but you go over there, is it, I don't wanna say easier, but is it like? It's easier, but like, I get everyone's best shot.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah, because they're like this is an NBA player. Right, every American, every coach, every import, every import from another country, everywhere I go, they beat us, oh we beat an NBA team or an NBA player, so I'm getting everyone's best shot. You know, but that's what I asked for, so it's perfect. Yeah, how are the fans over there? Phenomenal, I mean, like, you gotta think,
Starting point is 01:32:18 I'm thinking like eight to 9,000 a game. It's a lot of smoke with Israel and other countries. So, like we can't go play in Turkey. We have to meet at a mutual site. So we'll meet in Serbia. Teams that it's smoke with, we always meet in a mutual site. All our Israeli games are played in Israel of course,
Starting point is 01:32:40 but our European league games, the games that it's a Greek team or a Turkish team or anything like that, or it's kind of smoke, we always meet at a mutual site. So what about the game? How does the game translate to the Israeli league? So first, the minutes are short. We play 10 minutes a quarter.
Starting point is 01:32:58 That's time-wise. It's no defense of three seconds so you can just stand in the paint all day right so it's really beat your man to activate the big guy to to make the next play yeah right so you don't see a ton of guys going I don't know 20s and 25 points a game over there yeah so there's a guy just standing under the hoop basically just swatting shots. All day. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yeah, literally living in the paint, crowded paint, making you make the right play consistently every single time. And do you, you haven't gotten a technical yet. Is that because of the language barrier? Because I'm sure you've said things that should get you a technical. Yeah, I just been, I don't know, it's wild.
Starting point is 01:33:44 When I play, when I had a ball a lot, I'm so focused on the game and focused on, okay, trying to win the game, trying to do small things to win the game that I'm not over dramatic or over, I wouldn't say emotional, but just in character. In the NBA, I can do that, I can get away with that a lot. And they're quicker to give me a tech also. Is it more, you're also,
Starting point is 01:34:05 like in the NBA, there's the Pat Bev role where you come in, you fuck shit up. You're kind of a pest, you make things a problem for you. Get in their heads. And then I would imagine, maybe I'm wrong, but in your current setup, you get in the game because you're expected to be like a leader and I don't know how ball dominant you are,
Starting point is 01:34:24 but you're like one of the best players that's your star. Over there, yeah, the superstar. So you can't be getting techs in that role. Can't have that type of energy, you know. So it's all, for me it's, okay I'm seeing double teams every night, I'm seeing triple teams every night, I'm seeing the best defenders on me every night,
Starting point is 01:34:41 I'm dribbling the ice so I see guys running to me oh I gotta make extra plays, so it's just a different roll on. Yeah, I'm having a bit. So the people that are saying Pat Bev got soft because he's not getting technicals, what would you say to those people? I mean, my numbers are getting better offensively, so I guess it's working.
Starting point is 01:34:53 More focused. Yeah, more locked in. Yeah. And I can get away with it in the NBA because the refs, they know me. They know me, I'm an elbowed motherfucker. I'm gonna say, yeah, he's bum ass, he can't fucking shoot, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:35:04 I'm gonna say that type of shit in the game, which is, they'll give me a tag, but they're not gonna really kick me out. You know, you can work your way with the refs in the NBA. Yeah, all right, so I got a tough question for you. I have two tough questions for you. Okay, two. First tough question is, the way last year ended,
Starting point is 01:35:20 not the best because obviously you guys got bounced, you threw a pass to someone, like I look already for a pass No, I was wearing a uniform. Yeah You're just trying to get some numbers up on the pod afterwards. No, you're just asking people to subscribe No, do you think any of that? Like how did it work in the offseason when you were trying to figure out where you're gonna play was that? Part of it at all or was it you wanted to go play in Israel? I don't think it helped.
Starting point is 01:35:48 It didn't help, yeah. I'm gonna say that, I don't think it helped. But we still had two, three offers for the minimum. Yeah, so it wasn't like a blackballed situation. No, I don't think so. I had offers, I got offers now to come back. So- Are you looking at those offers? I am.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I mean, the goal I would assume is to eventually get back in the NBA, correct? I mean, not back in the NBA, it's, when you're out of it, right? And you see teams that you used to be on kind of struggling a little bit. All of your teams. Yeah, and you see that, you know, your setup,
Starting point is 01:36:25 you know, the stage that you're on, and like, the big stage. Yeah. Like, being away from it, there's no other fucking stage like that. Yeah. Like, no other stage, and I don't give a fuck, and I'm not even talking about a playoff game,
Starting point is 01:36:36 or a cup game, or like a Eastern Conference game, or a championship game. I'm absolutely talking about fucking games, 16 of the season, you're on the fucking biggest show in the world, there's no other place like that. So organically as a kid, NBA dream, I feel the need of like, damn I want that, I wanna go back there.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Yeah, and the one thing I love about you is you have the utmost confidence at all times. That's why you've made it so far in the NBA, that's why you've played for so long. Was how last season ended, was it humbling at all, where it's like, okay, Pat, like, just take a step back, maybe gotta, you know, like, was there any of that?
Starting point is 01:37:13 No. Okay. In my mind, you gotta think of my mind, I'm like, shit, I just literally wanna a playoff game by myself. I ain't gonna say by myself, but, you know, the, uh. You got everyone injured on the, on the box. Yeah. Yeah. And then I had to step up
Starting point is 01:37:25 and then we win an elimination game that a lot of people counted themselves for. So in my mind, and you know, the different games in Boston, and the freedom I had with Nick Nurse, and the freedom I had with the Bucs, for me that was probably one of my best NBA offensive league years ever.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Yeah, yeah. So I took it as okay cool, I still got a lot of juice in the tank. I take care of my body like a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? I spend a ton of my body each year to be healthy and prepared for entire season. So to me it's like okay now I made a ton of money.
Starting point is 01:37:58 I made almost $100 million in the NBA. I get to go somewhere else where they're paying me more than the minimum. Which no matter if I had a career year or not, if Russell Westbrook takes minimum, Kyle Lowry takes minimum, guess what, Pat Baev, you get minimum. That's just how it is.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Regardless of my play or a ball getting thrown or whatever the situation be, and I don't think that's fair. That was my issue. I worked my ass off. I had better years than all them motherfuckers. Why the fuck I'm getting the minimum? You know?
Starting point is 01:38:25 Okay. Just a podcaster to podcaster, after the game, when they ask you to elaborate on what happened, instead of just right away saying subscribe to the Pat BevPod, I know you're a great marketer, but instead of saying that right away, why don't you do like a tease?
Starting point is 01:38:39 You start answering the question, and you say, to hear my full thoughts, subscribe to the Pat Pat. Or you could do a podcast live in person to that reporter, answer the question, put it in the middle of your answer, throw in an ad read. So you start talking about what happened, and then he says, by the way,
Starting point is 01:38:57 subscribe to BetterHelp.com. But mine was, originally that was mine throughout since I've had the pod. Yeah, you've been doing that, that wasn't just a one the pod. Yeah, you've been doing that. That wasn't just a one-off. Yeah, that wasn't, yeah. I agree with that. Have you thought about maybe instead of saying
Starting point is 01:39:11 are you subscribed to the Pat Bev pod, you can't ask me a question unless you subscribe to the Pat Bev pod. If you ask them are you subscribed to Pardon My Take? Because the answer would probably be yes, so then they can ask you the question. No, probably not though. It depends on who I'm talking to.
Starting point is 01:39:24 That was an NBA crew. I mean that was the Depending on who I'm talking to. That was an NBA crew, I mean that was the ESPN crew I'm talking to. Yeah, no, they're closet in fact. They go home in shame. They won't admit it. They won't admit it. For sure, for sure they won't admit it. Yeah, no, that was, I mean obviously I think
Starting point is 01:39:36 you said it afterwards, like you should've handled it better, but it wasn't, it did get spun out as, like I can't believe he said this, like no he's been saying it all year. Yeah, but it's like that been saying it all year. Yeah. But it's like that because we're in media. Right. So anything that you know is frowned upon,
Starting point is 01:39:51 I don't know, something done, they go try to make the next thing seem like the worst day. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I've never punched anyone, right? I never hit any of my teammates. I never said fuck you coach, I'm walking out of practice. I've never got kicked out of practice.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Yeah. Ever since I've been in the NBA. You know, I'm walking out of practice. I've never got kicked out of practice ever since I've been in the NBA. You know what I'm saying? So like my behavior is one thing, but like it's a lot of shit that I haven't done also. You know, which shows why I've been in the league so long also. You know.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Yeah, right. Yeah, no, there's a reason why you keep getting, you keep getting signed to teams in the NBA is because you're a valuable piece and a good teammate for the most part. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes they get caught up in the theatrics.
Starting point is 01:40:26 But we said at the time, we were like, Pat has been telling every reporter this. Since I have the podcast. Since you had the podcast, it's a standard answer for you. I've got an easy question for you. Talk to me. And we talked about it a little bit on Sunday when you came in.
Starting point is 01:40:38 You're playing overseas in Israel. Solve the Mideast crisis. Wow. Solve the Mideast Crisis. Wow. Solve the Middle East Crisis. Yeah. Just create peace in the Middle East. Yeah, for one, I don't think
Starting point is 01:40:57 that I can solve it. Okay, good answer. That's a really good answer. That's the right answer. That was a really good answer. Right. So how are you keeping up with the NBA while you're over there? What's the time difference like That was a really good answer. Right. So how are you keeping up with the NBA while you're over there?
Starting point is 01:41:05 What's the time difference like? So, oh shit. So what, my three p.m. it's seven a.m. here. So the first game, six p.m. is probably like one o'clock in the morning my time. Mm, okay. So not keeping it up with a ton, but a ton of highlights, but nodding on with DraftKings. Shout out to DraftKings.
Starting point is 01:41:26 It's it's kind of exciting to kind of be up a couple hours now trying to see scores trying to see who the fuck Goal scored wasn't in the first quarter type shit. So yeah, shout out to DraftKings. All right, so I got a question about this NBA the Cavs. Yeah, they I mean this is running on Wednesday So they play the Celtics in a few hours and they might lose that game, but they started undefeated. What is it about the Cavs? I mean, Kenny Atkinson is a really good coach. He was my coach in Clippers. So yeah, so tell me about Kenny Atkinson.
Starting point is 01:41:54 What does he do that makes it, because it feels like the Cavs, last year they were a good team, playoff team, but this is, they're playing out of their mind right now. So when he had, first off, Kenny A is a player's coach. First off, when you speak about Kenny A, you gotta understand this is a coach that crosses every T dots, every I.
Starting point is 01:42:16 When I was there, he wasn't the coach running to go work with Kawhi Paul George. He was working with me, Nick Batum, and Zubak. So you can understand this kind of collar of work dealing with the type of players he dealt with. And he was the head of the individual performance side. So when you see a coach like that, his ability, I think he ran our offense,
Starting point is 01:42:39 but the way he teached it, the way he taught it, the way he ran it, I don't think I've ever heard him say, I don't know, probably heard him say some curse word, but never at someone, you know? Phenomenal guy, phenomenal man, phenomenal man. And I think if you have your, coaching is all about your, it's never about X and O's. If somebody down there fucking coaches that,
Starting point is 01:43:01 I've got X and O's, it's all about how hard can your players play for you. And motivation, yeah. So right, you can be a coach that has got X and O's. It's all about how hard can your players play for you. In motivation, yeah. So right, you can be a coach that has zero X and O's, but you have your team run through a motherfucking wall from you, that's half the battle right there. And that's all coaching is, that's all coaching is. And the moment you take a player aside,
Starting point is 01:43:17 and the moment you do something that just, you know, not go, you know, cause as a coach you have to think, you're a coach, you're a father, figure also. That's literally where coaches start from. But the moment you cross that line because of money, the moment you cross that line because relationships start letting guys do what they want,
Starting point is 01:43:31 that's when you become a bad coach and lose the shit. All the good coaches, they coach the same. Obviously you have your star players, but we're gonna coach you the fucking same. No, you can't be late, or you can't be fucking late. That's how we're gonna run things. So if you have more of those, I think the game will change with basketball and with coaching, and that's all you're saying right there.
Starting point is 01:43:47 How much of the Cavs success is because of the dancing frog? Put me on. I'm not aware. So there was in Cleveland, there was a guy in a frog costume that he was dancing in the streets after the Cavs won a couple games, and now they've invited him in and he dances in the arena after they win. How important is that if you're a player? Because I feel like that's pretty damn important.
Starting point is 01:44:10 Okay. I mean, as a player I probably wouldn't even know that. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I probably wouldn't even know that as a player. Good answer. From a fan's perspective, I would say Kenny Atkinson deserves, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:44:23 20% of the credit, the players another 20, the Dancing Frog 60%. Okay, so like from a fan, if you come there, Dancing Frog's not there, he's sick, you're like, we're losing. Yeah, cancel the game. We're faking injury. Classic fan, I like that though.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Give you a little management that way. It's like a game within the game type of vibe. Yeah, well it's also one of those situations where every team that has that momentum and they're maybe like on the cusp of a special season, it always feels like there's some little funny story that they start rallying around, whether it's a slogan, a dancing frog,
Starting point is 01:44:58 and we've seen it a million times. I would give 25% credit to George and Yang. Yeah. Most wins in the NBA since 2020. Yeah, he's a mini-man. He can hoop though. Yeah, he can. Pl to George and Yang. Yeah. Most wins in the NBA since 2020. Yeah. And he can hoop though. Yeah, he can. Plays the right way.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Yeah. Plays the right way all the time. Yeah, he can hoop though. Yeah, see. I'm reading right now. Jared Allen said, I've been wanting to dance with that frog since I've seen him. So he was, and then Froggy the Frog finally showed up.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Wait, his name's Froggy the Frog? Yeah, Froggy is here. That's, okay. Froggy is here. Oh, it's a she, I'm sorry. Froggy is a she. Froggy is here and there are no plans for her to leave anytime soon Love that city has embraced a dancing frog I need to say
Starting point is 01:45:33 So yeah, this is miss froggy miss froggy. Yeah, and the whole city is just embracing the frog love that I think that's more important than people realize it's just It's a it's a dancing frog. Yeah, do vibes have anything to do with a team's success? Like if a city is having fun? Sometimes, yes, sometimes, though. Like you go like a place like Miami,
Starting point is 01:45:58 the vibes always go be fun, right? But you don't want it to be too fun, it drains you, right? I think some are like sick game days and sick, the night before the games is like Phoenix. Where you can have some fun, you can have a nice dinner, you can go out to a nice bar, but you're not gonna be out to four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 01:46:22 That's a 130 type of night. But with the same amount of fun, the same adrenaline pumping through your veins, the same vibes going through around, you know, but it gets when you to a place like New York and it's a lot of distractions and you know, hour here, hour there, next thing you know, it's time to go to sleep and you're trying to battle with the time of getting rest and not doing things but keeping routine. I think that's when it becomes a problem. So I got a dumb question. How often if you're a player,
Starting point is 01:46:47 are you looking at the standings? Are you actually like, okay, where are we at the standings? Is it every day or is it just like we're playing? Every five games. Every five games you look at it? Yeah, so every five games, it kind of tell you tell you exactly where you at, where you headed at. So if you're the Sixers right now
Starting point is 01:47:01 and you look at the standings and you're two and 11. Man, unbelievable. Two and 11, is that right Max? Can we get a stat check on that? I'll pull it up, because I texted to the group last night just to make Max aware. There are 12 games out of first place and they've only played 13 games.
Starting point is 01:47:16 My question to you all, who do you think they need more? Was it M.B., Paul, George, or Maxie? Maxie's been out. All three of them, I think they need. The game that they've won, Maxey's played. Okay, is the record correct, Max? It's two and 11. That would be two and 11, correct.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Two and 11, that's bad. Yeah. At what point in the season are you like, because you've been on some teams that have not been great, is there a moment in the season where you're like, all right, this is kind of what we are? No.
Starting point is 01:47:48 You keep fighting? Yeah, you always keep fighting. Yeah. Right, and I haven't been on like- A two and 11 team. I'm shit with the Lakers. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Yeah, that was bad. That was brutal. Where'd you guys end up that year? I don't know, I end up with the Bulls that year. Yeah. Yeah, hell of a run we made too. Yes. I guys end up that year? I don't know, I end up with the Bulls that year. Yeah. Yeah, hell of a run we made too. Yes, we made a run all the way to losing the playing game. 15-8 since I was there, or 15-9 since I was there.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Yeah, do you think- Gary Reinsdorf special, lose the playing game. You think the Sixers, they could use a guy like Patrick Beverly? Any team, right? Any team, you know, and I'm just, no, I'm not gassing myself, but my work has been shown at NBA, any team. Spark. Any team, right? Any team. And I'm just, no, I'm not gassing myself, but my work has been shown in NBA, any team. Any team, any team.
Starting point is 01:48:29 It's just, when you get paid, you adapt my personality to the team more than anything. So the personality might be, I don't know, game, I don't know, 39, and you're playing in fucking Portland, and it's cold and it's fucking gray outside. Right? My competitive spirit go feel like game 39,
Starting point is 01:48:51 game two, game three of the playoffs. I'm catching vibe and it rubs off on you. My ability to be focused and shoot around and treat each game like a championship game. Like that shit rubs off on you. And next thing you know, yeah you play in 82 games but you treating the motherfuckers all like playoff games too.
Starting point is 01:49:09 So the energy is different. You know the competitive spirit is there more. You know when I'm on a team. Yeah and dude that's the spark because it's a long season and you see that all the time where teams will just kind of take off nights. They don't take off a night with Pat Pev on the team. Yeah, I can't.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Yeah. And at the same time, I'm the player also that's still trying to prove myself. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, fuck it, this guy's not playing. Okay, this is my time to come up and show everyone, fuck it, yeah, I can score it. Oh, this guy's not playing, okay, cool,
Starting point is 01:49:38 let me lock his ass up. So it's always an opportunity for me. I always took it as an opportunity to showcase my talents also. Yeah. Is there one team that you watch not being in the NBA right now and you still feel like you root for them more?
Starting point is 01:49:52 Like that was a special team. Bucks. The Bucks? Yeah man. I saw you told Giannis, make your free throws. Yeah that's my dog. You coached him well. Yeah that's my dog.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I just, they are a short time but like, when you go to the playoffs with a team, right, and you go through, not only the playoffs, but like ups and downs with a team, right? And then you go through the playoffs, you go through the ups and downs, then you go through injuries with a team, right? I mean, that's everything you can ask for in sports.
Starting point is 01:50:19 All summed up in one. And to have a chance, that happened all from my time there and to the playoffs, it made us all from my time there into the playoffs, it made us, okay, fuck it, no, you're honest, we gotta get closer, we gotta get better, fuck it. No Middleton, fuck it, we gotta get better, we gotta get closer, fuck it, no, damn, oh, fuck it, we gotta get better, we gotta get closer.
Starting point is 01:50:35 It just made you a tight-knit ass family. And then you have those opportunities, the playoffs, the guys not healthy, everyone's rooting against you, you on the road. It forces a bond that you don't get from a lot of teams. Yeah. Do you feel, if you're a Pat Bev
Starting point is 01:50:53 and you're playing on a team with LeBron or Giannis, do you feel extra pressure being like, there's a standard that they're playing at that I have to reach? Yeah, so it was one time I was with the Lakers and then we were playing in Boston and I think I just got a tip dunk or I think I just hit a big shot
Starting point is 01:51:14 and I'm at the free throw line and I missed a free throw and then Bron gave me a look like, come on man, make your motherfucking free throw. Right. And I'm like, oh shit, you right. But now I take that, I think I've only missed three free throws sometimes and I'm like, oh shit, you right, right? But now I take that, I think I've only missed three free throws this entire year. And I remember that, that was my motivation
Starting point is 01:51:31 to you know what, make your motherfucking free throws. That's like the definition of greatness is a great player lifts everyone else's game. So now that's me on my team. I don't give a fuck, man, I don't give a fuck how many free throws you missed, one, two, three, fourth quarter, make your fucking free throws. And do you have that feeling too?
Starting point is 01:51:47 Like say you're playing with Giannis where it's not, it's not like Giannis has got us, but I would imagine players play with more confidence knowing Giannis is on your team and not their team. Yeah, and then also on the other end, players play with less confidence when you know you gotta go against Giannis. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:52:02 You know, and I can make more mistakes. Right. Right, so my mistakes aren't magnified if Giannis. And I can make more mistakes. So my mistakes aren't magnified if Giannis is not out there versus when he is out there. So I can go for steel. I can take a bullshit ass charge. That ref might call charge because of my name, not because of how my footing was.
Starting point is 01:52:16 I might take fucked up shot. I might go offensive rebound when I suppose, Giannis got us, Bron got us, but that comes with greatness also. And I'm learning that on nothing. And also now that I'm playing what I'm playing at, it's a lot of stuff that my teammates are allowed to do that I just can't do.
Starting point is 01:52:32 They're looking to you. Yeah. Have you seen Cooper Flagg play basketball? Football player. Basketball. Never played basketball. No, I haven't seen that. Okay, because-
Starting point is 01:52:44 Handsome white guy. White boys might be back. Might be the okay cuz handsome white guy white boys might be back Yeah, I'm married the number one pick American white boys might be back. He's so what you change. Did you go into Israel? From Maine Right boys might be back Yeah, just keep your eye on that ball. He can hoop He might be the first white guy drafted number one overall American white guy drafted one number one overall since like the 70s yeah, but my thing about that I like I Like him. I like him at Duke. I like
Starting point is 01:53:14 I've never seen him play up close and personal I've seen highlights. Okay. Okay. He has sighs. Yeah Fact and he has it seems like he has some type of toughness He's got toughness? And I think, regardless of what your skill is at, if you have size and you have toughness, that's gonna carry you. He's so good, he's an elite white guy that plays a Duke that is not hateable. Yeah, it's a long season.
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Starting point is 01:55:45 Who had the most toughness that you ever played with? The most toughness. Where you're like damn, even, because you're considered obviously a tough player. Yeah. But you see you play with someone or play against someone and you're like damn, even I feel come like a wimp compared to this person.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Russ. Yeah? That motherfucker tough. He don't die. Russ. Yeah? That motherfucker tough. He don't die. Yeah. Yeah, he just keep coming at you. Don't just, I don't give a fuck. Fuck, are we down?
Starting point is 01:56:10 We're up. I don't give a fuck what's going on. I'm just keep coming at you, keep coming at you. Like, Russ, easy. Yeah? Unbelievable toughness. I see that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Did you ever have a teammate that was that tough that was like, you know, like respect? You two kind of went at it, see who could be the toughest guy on your own team who was gonna be the tough guy no because it's always you no yeah and like I get on the thing was me and Bobby and then but I'm older so it's like Bobby understand that I went to Arkansas before him I you know I paid the way you know before him so it's always a respect thing and I'm coming you got to think when I'm on the team I'm not coming like hey man give me the motherfucking ball,
Starting point is 01:56:46 I wanna shoot it, you know? Like, no, I'm not coming like that, I'm coming more like, hey, you know, if we swing that around a couple more times, you get that same shot wide open type shit, you know? So like, it's just different, yeah. You were talking about Giannis earlier, you do a pretty funny impression of Giannis. Like the first time that he told you,
Starting point is 01:57:03 like I wanna play with you one day. Can you tell that story? No, so I, we're home, we're playing Milwaukee and I'm with Minnesota and I have the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference work that you don't really get to see Eastern Conference home a lot. It's just one home, one away. So I think we seen them in the first game of the season.
Starting point is 01:57:28 And obviously, we seen them in Milwaukee, so you want to play them while you're at home. You practice pregame, thinking it's Giannis, you take your nap, okay cool, you're thinking it's Giannis, you get to the game, I don't see any Giannis. I'm fucking frustrated now. I'm actually angry now.
Starting point is 01:57:52 I don't think, I think I got kicked out of that game. I think I've only played that game, that same game that we're talking about. I think I only played two minutes. I think I shoved the guy and it kicked me out, literally. So we're working out pre-game, I don't know, 60 on, I don't know, 70 on the clock, you know, before the game starts.
Starting point is 01:58:11 And I see, Giannis is a late scratch. I go, man, what the fuck, man, I wanted to play him. I go out, I see Thanasis, shout out to Thanasis, his older brother. And his older brother's always been a fan of me, obviously because I played in Greek whenever, you know, around there at the same time. So he's always been a fan of my upbringing
Starting point is 01:58:33 and how I started from Greece. So I see him and I'm like, yo, where the fuck your brother at? Why the fuck he ducking smoke? He laugh at me, like, nah, nah, man, he in the back, he in the back. Nah, fuck that, man. Tell his in the back, he in the back, nah fuck that man. Tell his ass to play.
Starting point is 01:58:47 So I started my workout, I look up, I see Greek coming out the tunnel. Okay, for sure he about to come over here, he go. Excuse me guys, excuse me guys, excuse me guys. Like you gotta understand, this is like, this is Greek freak. This isn't like, I don't know, Grayson Allen or somebody. This is Greek freak walking through another professional's
Starting point is 01:59:17 individual shooting time with other NBA coaches, stopping, excuse me guys, like stopping everything. Like Pat, never duck smoke, I never duck smoke. I never, never I duck smoke, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, shout out to Greek, man. That was the first time I'm like, oh yeah, this motherfucker the real deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Motherfucker the real deal. He also is like, I feel like he, because of the injuries and how everything's gone down the last couple years, people have kind of forgotten him. Yeah. Like how great he is. Yeah, I don't think forgotten. I think that when you don't win it, you get hurt.
Starting point is 01:59:47 You don't win it, I don't know. You win it. You win it while you're hurt. You know, you fucked this shit up early that playoff. Come back, give a motherfucker 60. I think they're looking for that person all the time now since that happened. And I don't think that's fair to the player.
Starting point is 02:00:02 Yeah. That was a legendary run he went on. That final's just absolutely dominant, and then afterwards he goes to Chick-fil-A and orders 50 chicken nuggets and slams it. Yeah, 50 chickens. Just a regular dude. What was your favorite memory being teammates
Starting point is 02:00:13 with Robin Lopez? Robin Lopez, I wasn't teammates with Robin Lopez. Yeah, you were. He tweeted last year, February 8th, 2024, this is the trade deadline, I enjoyed being teammates with Patrick Beverly for all of an hour and a 45 minutes. I'll never forget those times.
Starting point is 02:00:28 He's great too. Him and Brooklin are great. You were teammates for an hour and 45 minutes. Yeah, I don't think we even shook hands. No, there's no way. No, no way. You didn't show up at. No, no way, uh-uh.
Starting point is 02:00:39 He's great though. Yeah, the Lopez's been playing forever. That family is great, man. Mom is great. Brooklin off the other night. Didn't he, what did he hit? He went five for five from threes? And I think he had the Magic Johnson up and under layup too.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're still dominating. Hey, I have a teammate question though, for real. Yeah. B-ball Paul. Paul Reed. Yeah. Is he as cool as I've made it out in my head?
Starting point is 02:01:03 Okay. Will you say cool? I mean, it out in my head? Okay. Will you say cool? I mean, his nickname's B-Ball Paul. All right. Okay, I got a question. When you look at a person like Paul Reed, what do you instantly see? Well, it's not looking at him,
Starting point is 02:01:18 it's the fact that he's B-Ball Paul and they chant B-Ball Paul and that's like the funniest nickname possible. Frank the Tank vibe. Yeah, right, B-Ball Paul. Like that's like the funniest nickname possible Frank the tank vibe Yeah, right b-ball Paul like that's a funny Kind of like the frog in Cleveland. Yeah, the fan experience. Yeah, I mean you tell max b-ball Paul He's he hustles. I love b-ball Paul. He's not on the sixers anymore, but You know, he's a guy who came from the G League
Starting point is 02:01:41 Out the mud out the mud the out the out the mud sweatshirts are funny and cool that he would make his own merch and sell it himself. Yeah, that was the other thing. Yeah, you'd have to just Venmo him. I Venmo'ed him for a shirt. He didn't have a store. Yeah, he sent me out the mud. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:57 Yeah, no, he's like a good success story. You know, fought for what he got and he was a good player. And I hope he's doing well. He's a dog. Yeah. Yeah. And B-ball Paul. I mean you can't just throw dog on everybody. I think B-ball Paul's a dog.
Starting point is 02:02:11 A dog? Yeah. What kind? What's the difference? I have a Yorkie. Yeah I know you have a little, you have almost a cat. He might be like a golden retriever.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Yeah. Just like lovable. Right, yeah right. You like when he's around? Love when he's around. He's a golden retriever. Yeah. Just like lovable. Right, yeah, right. You like when he's around? Love when he's around. He's a golden retriever and then also, like he's very lovable, also maybe has like saved a kid out of a well or something.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Type shit. Yeah. Yeah, he's had one like great moment where you're like damn. He had the dog that got the key to the city for having a great week. Yeah, and then fell in a well. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Had to get helped out. Yeah, right. Right, right, right. We're on the same page. So you were talking about Maxie earlier. Hank, and then fell in the well. Had to get helped out. Yeah, right. Right, right, right. We're on the same page. So you were talking about Maxie earlier. Hank just sent this over to us here. There's a report that the Sixers held a team meeting last night, and Tyrese Maxie called out Joel and Bede
Starting point is 02:02:57 for being late, quote, to all team activities and everything. Saying everything. And everything. All period? All team activities and everything. Soigning it. And everything. All team activities and everything. So that implies everything is, even not team activities. He's just late on everything.
Starting point is 02:03:12 He's just late to everything. Damn. And he cites how that impacts the locker room, other players and coaches. Does being late, does that make an effect on the general climate of an NBA team? I think on any team. I think in any workspace also, right?
Starting point is 02:03:30 I've always liked to be, I don't know, seven, eight minutes early before anything. Well, let's be honest here. We came, record at 11. What, nope. We said 10.30. But we recorded at 11. What time did you walk in?
Starting point is 02:03:44 12 minutes before we recorded. We walked in at 1030 where we record at 11. What time did you walk in? 12 minutes before we caught with you go out to 1041 the 19 minutes So I'm actually on time. Okay, but far as basketball though I'm the guy that's like, you know, I like to be on the bus first. I'd like to be in a weight room first I'd like to be ready like that You're not on time. It can rub off some people,
Starting point is 02:04:08 but if you're not on time and you give a motherfucking 70, right, it's been times with Joe L and B when no time to motherfucking to practice. And you know me, come on Joe man, what's up G? Come on man, come on Joe, come on Joe, be better Joe, be great Joe, be great.'s up, G, come on, man. Come on, Joe, come on, Joe, be better, Joe, be great, Joe, be great. And then his response would be like, what the fuck, man, you giving me all the fucking,
Starting point is 02:04:29 man, I'm fucking an hour and a half away. I mean, I had to get up two hours before it, because everyone doesn't live at the same spot, so you know what I'm saying? So, like, what we go do? Give me my fucking ball. That same night, he had 50 and we won. I think we were 21 to nine the first 30 games,
Starting point is 02:04:44 like the best record since 2004, when I was with Philly. So it's just surprising to see, especially because all the hard work that Nick Nerson, his coaches have put in, just hard to see. How many? An hour and a half is a long way to travel.
Starting point is 02:04:57 Like Brandon Walker does. Before a nine o'clock film, which means you gotta get up at seven. And I'm saying, I ain't saying that, obviously we have different jobs there, motherfuckers is getting up at six o'clock in. Which means you gotta get up at seven. And I'm saying, I ain't saying that, obviously we have different jobs there. Motherfuckers is getting up at six o'clock in the morning so everyone's different. But if you're just starting, I don't have a problem with it.
Starting point is 02:05:13 And I'm the roll guy and I'm the temperature of the locker room, you feel me? I know you're not doing it to be ultimate disrespectful. I know you don't show up to games late. I know you don't show up to practices late. I know you don't show up to practices late. But if you got it at nine o'clock in the morning shooting around and you gotta get up two hours before, I don't think that's fair also.
Starting point is 02:05:33 So it's just different strokes, different folks. And Tyrese is someone. But if that was B-ball Paul, it wouldn't be, no, that's not even a conversation. That's not a conversation. You can't even be fucking late. Right, you can't be late. But it comes with the status also is there
Starting point is 02:05:48 Such a thing is too many tea player only meetings. No, I think me that more no, this wasn't a player only meeting Oh In front of his coaches, I mean I'm just you were giving false information in front of his coaches. I mean, I'm just, you were giving false information. I asked the question about players only meetings. I actually wasn't, it was in context, but I wasn't giving false information. Cause I said, is there such thing as too many players only meetings? That's a fair question. Right? The players also asked the coaches to be coached harder. Oh, okay. So it also says that he was late to all team activities and everything. Also implying that Joel Embiid was late to players only meetings
Starting point is 02:06:25 That's part of everything. Yeah, he would have been yeah, but y'all think it was a player I was only meeting that early before it in anyway, so what's it? What's the earliest players only meeting sound like this one? Yeah, but it wasn't Max is saying it wasn't what? When a players only meeting is there too many though Like can you have too many because we see it every now and then where it's like, they've had their third players only meeting in the last month, that feels like too many. Yeah, but, see you gotta understand what goes on. A player only meeting is, motherfucker get in there,
Starting point is 02:06:55 you, hey so what the fuck going on, what we gonna do? It's not really formal, did you kick out the coaches? Did you say coaches get out of here? Yes. I like that part. Like yes, y'all get the fuck out. Let's talk straight up. Or you bring a coach in who's like the players coach
Starting point is 02:07:09 who's cool, that can kind of give you information of what the coach's thought is, but also can take information like, this is the players' thought also. Play in the middle, yeah. Yeah, to kind of mesh it together, because you don't want to be in there having a meeting the whole time you get out of the meeting,
Starting point is 02:07:20 you're like, oh man, that's, you know, yeah, coaches, they own a whole different page than we own. Like, okay, cool, let's all get organized. We get a new player and they don't know it. We got this going on, man. You feel me? Like, I feel like, you feel me?
Starting point is 02:07:33 I'm shooting the ball a lot. I feel like I can get better shots. What can I do to make a team better? What can I do to help you? What can I do to help you? And then I go, like, okay, cool, fuck all that. Let's just talk about roles. Like, you tell me your role, I tell you my role, and we just go, like okay cool, fuck all that, let's just talk about roles. Like you tell me your role, I tell you my role
Starting point is 02:07:48 and we just go all the way down. And then you'll hear some people's roles and then you'll be like okay, y'all agree with that? And some guys will be like no, I don't think that's your role but that helps you though. Right? That helps you, okay cool. In my mind I thought my role was screen, screen, screen,
Starting point is 02:08:03 role, role, role, whole time. This guy wants, the star player wants my role to know pop and shoot all the time. I might've thought my role was to shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. No, my role is not to shoot. My role is to offensive rebound, block shots and take charges. I might think my role is okay, cool,
Starting point is 02:08:19 I'm the leader of this team. No, no, no, no, no, you're the energy guy of this team. You're the guy that makes sure we got energy. So, getting roles with your players, with those guys, no, no, you're the energy guy of this team. You're the guy that makes sure we got energy. So getting roles with your players, with those guys first, kinda like, okay, cool. It gets you a different perspective. And I think that helps more than anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:36 It gives you clarity, like what you actually should be doing to make the rest of the team better, based on what they want from you. Yeah, and then you'll say shit like, hey bro, yeah, okay, I feel that. I feel that their role is to score, but you wanna score that bitch like that, you gotta show us you're a pro too, bro.
Starting point is 02:08:48 You gotta be on time. Yeah. Right? Like, everybody got shit to do. Yeah. Right? I remember one time, I think, Wai walked in late, right?
Starting point is 02:08:55 And this is very few times when Kawhi kinda walked in late. When I think something happened, he walked in late, he was standing in San Diego, I don't know, helicopter was late type shit, right? I go on Kawhi like, hey, I know shit happened but we all got shit to do. We all pros, we all millionaires.
Starting point is 02:09:15 Shit, most of all, all us got kids. I understand, we sitting here waiting on you, that's not 30 minutes at the end of practice that I could be on my way home to my son or some shit. Like I ain't telling you what to do, just respect the grind. You tell a motherfucker that straight up, motherfucker gotta do what, respect it.
Starting point is 02:09:32 Like you know what, you right bro, I can be better. And then that helps you too. Yeah, I can be fucking better, all right? So like I think any type of meeting, any type of discussion about, I don't know, getting better, I think that's always perfect medicine. Who is the best player in the NBA right now? Yolkich.
Starting point is 02:09:51 Yeah, that was the correct answer. All right, you still know ball. Good job. Yeah. He is. Yolkich. It seems like he'd be fun to play with too. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:00 He just spreads it everywhere, makes everyone better. Plays the right way. Yeah. Plays the right way. Yeah. Plays the right way. Every time he has the ball, it's like, the gravity towards him just keeps, it gets everyone open. It's nuts watching him play.
Starting point is 02:10:13 I had a, I don't know, I think this was the bubble. You're 20-20 out, we about to play Denver, and I'm watching them work out, and it's one of the Denver coaches, I don't even know his fucking name, system guy. I go, it's two things that make him great. I go to the coach, what do you think it is? The options in my head was,
Starting point is 02:10:36 his passing ability or his feel for the ball, right? You know, coach goes, a coach that's probably never played NBA basketball goes, oh, the way he can pass it. Yeah, that's a lot of motherfuckers that can pass though. And I honestly think it's his feeling for the ball. I know a ton of motherfuckers that can pass. But like, a one second pass is worse than a.3 pass. Get it literally, like in your hand, out your hand
Starting point is 02:11:04 to the next guy. The defense can't even rotate. Then getting it, same pass, but defense is contesting the shot. His feel for the game, his feel for the ball, I think is one of his best attributes. It's like the difference in football of throwing someone open, where it's like
Starting point is 02:11:18 you're throwing the ball before they're open. Type shit. And they get open as the ball gets there. Type shit. Yokochi's doing that where he knows it, where every, it's almost like he's playing chess on the court where it's like, I know where this guy's about to cut to, the ball will be there.
Starting point is 02:11:31 Look here, pass here, look here, pass here. You can't defend against that. And he's so tall and so, rather large man, that it makes it very difficult. I love it when he puts the ball above his head. It's like he's going towards the hoop, ball above his head and then he just throws it backwards Yeah, but it's like one of the fastest passes that you've ever seen and it's a shit backwards And it's a shooting it's where he shoots also. Yeah, so you have to not only oh, what you doing the ball up there
Starting point is 02:11:57 I'll shit. He might shoot this motherfucker So he gives you he gives you a triple threat of a you know Usually you're taught triple threat talk the ball down here you high jab ha ha a triple threat of a, usually you're taught triple threat, talk to ball down here, you high jab, ha ha ha, triple threat. He's giving you triple threat here where he can pass and he can shoot. So it's even more deadly. And who do you know defends,
Starting point is 02:12:14 what big man you know that can defend up here? Eyes up here, boom, one dribble, he's gone. Yeah, so he's really good. You mentioned something earlier I wanted to talk about, your pregame nap. So it sounds like that's something you take seriously. Very seriously, yeah. So what's your nap schedule before a game?
Starting point is 02:12:29 So everything is different for me. I don't talk a lot. I'm all about preserving energy. So I don't talk a lot. I don't really break a lot of huddles game day. I don't really speak a lot. I'm just preserving a lot of energy. So I wake up, obviously shower,
Starting point is 02:12:46 a little cold for her just to wake me up, go hot after that, go to shoot around. I want to sweat, but I don't want a drippy sweat. I want a nice lather. Not a drippy sweat, I like that. I don't want a drippy sweat. I know exactly what you're talking about, I'm missed. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:13:01 I want to just be able to rub and just be okay cool. I don't want to rub and have to like, damn, missed. Right, right, right. I wanna just be able to rub and just be okay cool. I don't wanna rub and have to like, damn, this shit's getting in my eye. So as soon as I get there, I'm cool. I'm 36, so I know my body. As soon as I get there, I'm cool. I don't eat breakfast. I only eat once a day.
Starting point is 02:13:16 My meal that I eat every single day for, I don't know, the last nine years has been any type of mixed pasta, cream and tomato sauce with any type of mixed pasta, cream, and tomato sauce with any type of protein. Chicken, fish, steak, right? I eat, I don't know, I feast, eat a big ass bowl of that shit. Whatever I'm watching on TV, now it's the diplomats,
Starting point is 02:13:37 mixed with the little sopranos. I pick off where I left off, not on the TV, because I can't watch something on the TV, it has to be my phone, because when I go to sleep, my phone goes to sleep, it turns off on its own. I don't have to hear shit that might wake me up of a gunshot or just watching The Soprano, so I can't watch it on TV.
Starting point is 02:13:55 Only has to be my phone. So okay, I'm watching it, cool, cool, I go to sleep. I let my body do what it does. If it sleeps for three hours, sleep for three hours. If it's tossing and turning, toss and turn. If it's- You don't set an alarm? No, uh-uh, my body kind of does the same thing every for three hours, sleep for three hours. If it's tossing and turning, toss and turn. If it's- You don't set an alarm? No, uh-uh.
Starting point is 02:14:07 My body kind of does the same thing every time. Okay. That's a good nap. Three hours is a, that's significant. So I go, I come home, I eat while I'm eating. I'm taking my mind off basketball, so I'm playing, I don't know, Call of Duty. I'm in fucking war right now.
Starting point is 02:14:20 I'm a soldier, right? Right, pregame, I'm a soldier. I don't know, 1.30 hit. I probably have to be at the gym at 5.30, five o'clock. 1.30 hit, I'm making my, right, right, right, pregame, I'm a soldier. I don't know, 1.30 hit, I probably have to be at the gym at 5.30, five o'clock, 1.30 hit, I'm making my way to my bed, slowly, okay, cool, I'm turning off the lights, I'm pissing, I'm making sure I don't have to get up for anything,
Starting point is 02:14:34 you know, and I just, after that, just kind of let my body do what it does. If it's sleep for two hours, I sleep for two hours, if it's an hour here, 30 minutes here, 20 minutes here, I kind of let it do its thing. Have you ever overslept by accident? No. Okay, so the of let it do its thing. Have you ever overslept by accident? No. Okay, so the internal alarm clock wakes you up.
Starting point is 02:14:47 And I'm a big iron, I iron before every game. You iron? Myself, I love ironing. I found that out, I don't know, three years ago. You just love ironing. I literally iron, I was ironing this today. It is actually a therapeutic thing when you get the whole ironing board out.
Starting point is 02:15:02 So I'm the whole ironing board, every hotel, I have to have it and I didn't know I did it until like three years until someone on the phone was like, oh there you go ironing again. I'm like ironing again, what do you mean I'm ironing? And I thought about it like damn, I am, I'm literally ironing every fucking day.
Starting point is 02:15:15 Do you iron a lot? Do you iron shit that you're not gonna wear that day? No, uh-uh. Just what you're gonna wear on the walk into the gym? Yep. That's awesome. Then you take your nap, you think a lot of players take naps?
Starting point is 02:15:26 A lot of people do, but then I heard the older that you get guys start like talk wing and shit. So I think Steph Curry does like golf before, just to take his mind off. He got things, he go shoot some holes and go from there right to the gym type shit. Some guys have to have naps. You know, like have to have, they don't have napses.
Starting point is 02:15:44 You know, you don't play well, some guys don't sleep. You ever dream about the game? Not game, but opponent. It'd be crazy. So you're doing film study. Yeah, but it won't even be like, it'd be like a guy like, one fuckin' Shabazz Napier or some shit.
Starting point is 02:16:04 Raul Neto or some shit. Like man, I can't let him get off, I can't let him. Like it ain't even about like Russ Dame or like, it's always like, oh it's okay, fuck it man, Peyton Preacher, I can't let him get off, type shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's how it is, if it is a dream. I love that, they're going into the game
Starting point is 02:16:22 and they have no idea that Pat Bev's been literally dreaming about shutting them down. And it's literally the same way while I'm in Europe also. It's a guy that I'm like, could you guys just give me numbers because I don't know names. Right, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:16:33 I know all NBA names, just give me numbers. What does number six do? What does number 95 do? What does number 54 do? And they have wild numbers, I don't know why. Numbers 77 and shit like that. But it's like that overseas where it's just like, okay, I just need to refer to people by numbers because I don't know why the number 77 and shit like that, but it's like that overseas where it's just like, okay, I just need to refer to people by numbers
Starting point is 02:16:48 because I don't know names. Yeah. All right, Pat, I got one last question. Roll back question. Are you guys coming to Tel Aviv? Probably not. Okay. Roll back question.
Starting point is 02:16:57 Is that within five hours? No, within, I don't know, five years. No, but I mean like, how long does it take to get there? Tel Aviv, from here. So I gotta go here in New York, which is two and a half. Yeah, two. Two, right. Four when you talk about like getting to the airport.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Type shit, right. And then I go 12 hour straight flight. Probably not. Nope. Probably not gonna do that. All right, real bad question. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Yeah, yeah, we'll be rooting for you. I'm talking about the Israeli culture and community loves me to Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, we'll be rooting for you. I'm talking about the Israeli culture and community loves me to death. Yeah, we're rooting for you. I have people that walk up to me in airport like thank you for all you're doing for Israel. In my mind I'm like, I'm just speaking on my,
Starting point is 02:17:36 yeah, I'm just speaking on what I experienced in hooping. Yeah, all right, Robak question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take. 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Robak.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q zips Polos hoodies joggers shorts row back calm promo code Take so the Celtics won last year. Did you see Hank on the float with Joe Missoula? He went on the parade he went on the parade he was on the duck said Hank yeah Hank right there sitting right there producer pardon my take
Starting point is 02:18:03 Future bunker one of our best friends known him for almost half his life no Hank was on the float with Joe Missoula yeah grace Davis life I asked that because hypothetically if you were to ever win a title Ron is there a hundred percent oh no I was gonna ask for Hank be on the on the on be on the float or wherever with you? Rhone's at my wedding. Okay great so I just want to make sure cuz I love Rhone too I wanted to make sure he will be able to live the day like Hank lived. That's my nigga Rhone. Okay. Like you guys have no idea you guys probably haven't an idea. Yeah we have an idea. I stole him from us. The man, he's the best.
Starting point is 02:18:45 He's actually phenomenal. A phenomenal person first, a phenomenal husband second. And he's insanely talented. I've been around a ton of guys where it's either, either or. They're really good and they're shitty husband. It's very rare that you get both. Phenomenal guy in both of those aspects. Talent wise, it's something that gives me Jim Carrey vibes.
Starting point is 02:19:08 Yeah, he can do anything. Do you know what it is? Anything. It's also how effortless it is. Yeah, it's not forced. Cause like I feel like I have to work really hard to be entertaining. He feels like you could throw him,
Starting point is 02:19:20 I always said this about Rowan too, you can throw him in any setting. Any situation. Any setting, any person. I agree. And he'll have a conversation that you wanna listen to. President of the United States suited up, Ron go be there.
Starting point is 02:19:31 Yeah. Black dude in the hood, Ron go be there. Yeah. A Mexican don't even know how to speak English, yup, come what they ammo, Ron go be there. It's wild. It's crazy. We put him on football, he go be there.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Put him on basketball, he go be there. Son of a boy dad, on fucking couch with his legs crossed, he go be there. Put him on basketball, he go be there. Son of a boy dad, on fucking couch with his legs crossed, he go be there. Fucking Pat Bill Pye, we're wrong. Yeah, we talking about, yeah, gangsta shit and who fucking better, white guys or black guys, wrong, go be there. He's absolutely phenomenal.
Starting point is 02:19:54 So he'll be on that parade. What was the answer to that question? Who's better, white guys or black guys? Remember Cooper Flag? Yolkich. I think that's a difference. European is very different. Why? You're white. Ioke-ich. I think that's a difference. European is very different.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Why? You're white. I know, but European outranks both white and black. A woman who gets a European, she thinks she's won. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You get the last name with an itch or some Italian name. Yeah, I think that woman for sure thinks she won.
Starting point is 02:20:22 100%. Yeah, they are different. I mean, that whole region with Luka, Jokic. Mind you, it's, I don't know, seven, eight countries. Mind you, if it was just Yugoslavia still. It was, yeah. Mind you. They would be dominating everything.
Starting point is 02:20:35 It'd be people who won't make the team. I know. Yeah, who like, super talented. That's why they subdivided. Yeah. Was they had too much talent. Yeah, they were bad for basketball. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:44 Or like, Yukon women's hoop. They had to up. Crazy smoke. Um, all right, Pat, everyone go subscribe to the Pat Bev Pod. Please. What's the best? Uh, good luck for us this season. Maybe hopefully we'll see you back in the NBA at some point. We'll see. Yeah. All right. Thanks Pat. Love guy. Thanks man. Patrick Beverly was brought to you by Uber Eats. It's football season and Uber Eats is dropping undefeated deals on all your game day favorites. This week enjoy buy one get one free famous bowls from KFC only on Uber Eats. Fellas, I've been on a hot streak.
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Starting point is 02:22:47 You won't find better gifts for the men on your list this year Check it out Duke cannon Duke cannon calm Okay, let's wrap up. We got part near take Henry. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do Aaron Rodgers is dismantling the Jets organization in retaliation against the COVID vaccine. This is all Aaron Rodgers plan to get back at Big Pharma by sticking to the man and destroying the franchise. Yeah, I like yeah, Woody Johnson. He did that the one shot thing.
Starting point is 02:23:19 Aaron Rodgers gets traded to them tanks their value. I got a question for you guys. Did you know that there's like boosters for COVID? I did know that. I didn't. Stop it. Yeah, you knew that. I got one shot four years ago and that's it.
Starting point is 02:23:36 You didn't know that they release shots every like six months? That's the whole Stephen Chase joke. I knew Stephen Say had shots. I thought there was like a new, I didn't know it was like the flu shot. Now I thought it was like a new, like a whole new brain. I didn't know it was like seasonal boosters. Yeah. I mean, every that's crazy. Travis Kelsey, John legend. They're talking about getting the new. I thought that was a whole new shot.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Well, yeah, it kind of, yeah, I know, but I, I didn't realize that like a flu, like you get the flu shot and then you get the COVID booster. Yeah. The boost. I'm only on one. Mincy boosts. Yeah, I didn't. Have you guys got any boosters? Fuck no. I got one, I think, six months after the after the first one came out.
Starting point is 02:24:14 I got one because you had to get the card to like live. Yeah, I got that one. The Johnson and Johnson one was like the weakest one. It was the one shot. There was no follow up. That was like four years ago. I didn't one shot. There was no follow up. That was like four years ago. I didn't know that people were doing every single like season. They were like, I think, uh, I think old people. Yeah. I think it's good for old that makes and Steven
Starting point is 02:24:34 Chase and Steven Chase. Yeah. I'm also wondering the person who does these part in your takes is memes. I'm wondering if they're all going to be jets part in your day. Oh, that would be a nice wrinkle. That would be wait Wait, memes, was that your idea that Aaron Rodgers tanked the jets because he hates Woody Johnson? No, somebody wrote that in. Okay, what are your thoughts about that? It's believable. It is.
Starting point is 02:24:54 I'm dead. I'm out. I guess I'm just an idiot because I thought I didn't realize boosters. I don't know what I thought. I thought it was just a whole new brand new vaccine, but I guess that makes no sense Yeah, I'm dumb if you were to ask Aaron Rodgers if he tanked the the Jets because of Woody Johnson
Starting point is 02:25:10 What do you think his answer? Yes, I think so. Yeah for sure Pardon your take but if your team's biggest rival doesn't consider you to be their biggest rival you are little brother Yeah, sample if you ask a Michigan State fan who the biggest rival is in Michigan no question If you ask anyone in Michigan, they're going to unequivocally respond that OSU is enemy number one This exists in all sports everywhere six years fan take the Celtics Celtics have a historical rival with the Lakers Verbal meme mad men. I don't think about you at all. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, this is all facts and it sucks being that little brother Yeah, Hank. Have you tweeted about the six years at all today? Yeah So you do think so you do think about what's cuz Hank hosted night in sports podcast. I didn't his job
Starting point is 02:25:49 Sometimes I was reading the fucking question. Dude. That was those weren't my word I was quoting the person right big-time little brother energy to give it off Max. That's fair I I was quoting I I was reading that question those that was not me saying that who's who's the saddest? I think about you guys all time And laugh who's I when I need to get a smile on my face or when I need to just you know Get a quick boost of serotonin just think about the Sixers the saddest little brother NC State that sucks. Yeah, cuz you got Duke and UNC just duking it out and they're like hey We don't like an UNC. We don't like to like for us is kind of in that spot
Starting point is 02:26:24 Yeah, but I don't think that they're even farther They wouldn't consider themselves to be little brother to anybody back a road though Michigan State's a high one I would I would agree with that. Yeah, Michigan State's a big one Commanders yeah, anyone commanders Dallas anyone who anyone who thinks they're a rival with Notre Dame Like Notre Dame has a million rivals Purdue. I'd probably be like yeah, yeah, Notre Dames are big rival Yeah, like the only ones I really think for Notre Dame is like USC and I mean they don't play it anymore But Michigan Notre Dame was I feel like Tennessee has a bunch that they don't have anyone that's what Tennessee has Alabama Alabama That's a little brother move by Tennessee. I think there's a few with Tennessee where no one says Tennessee is their main rival, but they have like three
Starting point is 02:27:07 Yeah, Kentucky would probably say that Tennessee's biggest rival, right? Yeah, and then Tennessee Little little brothers Vanderbilt, but yeah, that's a good one, Tennessee, Alabama and Alabama's like no, it's Auburn and it's kind of LSU too. I would say the Mets are probably up there too for who Yankees. Yeah Yeah, wait, did you say Kentucky in Tennessee, I think that yeah, we took he has Louie. Yeah me me. I'm second. Yeah, I guess Louisville That's their big rival. What about football though? They also you think that they care more about yes, even though they're not in conference Definitely. They play every year. Yeah about yes even though they're not in conference definitely every year yeah little little slander on a friend of the show here what but I'm meme sends questions
Starting point is 02:27:49 I'll read them okay it's a hot one when JJ watt retired people were having discussions about him being up first about Hall of Famer which is absolute nonsense okay he's not even on the top 20 for career sacks meanwhile I tear down his number 12 on that list and it's still not gotten in I'm honestly not sure if watch should ever be a Hall-of-famer just thought so what awareness to this issue okay so I love I love the take yeah listen it's a fair like this is part in your take you bring the spiciest takes I would say that JJ Watts how many defensive player the year awards does he have he won?
Starting point is 02:28:29 Two in three and four years three and four years and he Probably should have had an MVP somewhere in there So JJ watt from 2012 to 2014 was probably the best one of if not the best defensive players Probably Lawrence Taylor is obviously number one, but I mean Aaron Foster was the best offensive player But a few years stretch He should be in the Hall of Fame too I agree so he had 20 and a half sacks 10 and a half sacks 20 and a half sacks 17 and a half sacks in Those four years that's an insane insane clip 67 and a half sacks or 68 sacks in four years
Starting point is 02:29:02 This guy's an idiot and he was dominant and he was scoring offensive touch outs too. Yeah, JJ, if you look at the other guys that are eligible for the Hall of Fame, I will give you Jared Allen probably should be in the Hall of Fame. He should, but I think the Hall of Fame, obviously you can go off career, but there's like, I mean, it's the Terrell Davis thing. Like he wasn't, his career wasn't super long, but the three or four year stretch where he was just so much better than everyone else Jared Allen He did not win a defensive player of the year. So you could never say he was by far the best Defender I do think Jared Allen should be in the
Starting point is 02:29:39 Hall of Fame, but his he did have 22 sacks in 2011 But yeah, I mean that he had a nice four year stretch as well. Five year stretch. Jared Allen should be in the hall of fame. Yeah. That doesn't mean JJ watt shouldn't be. Yeah. So JJ watt was so dominant in the like a relatively short career. It's not like he only played a couple of years and like burned out. He had a good career. Um, but he was also so good in that short time period that he ended up putting up all time numbers in a lot of categories. And he was like double teamed constantly. He was injured for four of his 12 years. He pretty much played eight years. Jared
Starting point is 02:30:18 Allen played 12 years. He was injured. He played 16 16 like more than 14 games pretty much every single year that he was in the NFL so he played more games I think you got to go by games as well 187 to 151 I don't know now I got a crunch number sacks per game because if JJ Watt is in the first ballot hall of fame then I honestly would have no idea who a first ballot Hall of Fame would be Agree, and we we all agree that Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame So don't take it away from JJ just because you want Jared Allen in Alright, I'm doing the stats real quick. You ready for this sex per game. Yeah Doing it JJ watt. Remember this number. Wait, is that right? No
Starting point is 02:31:05 Remember this number wait is that right no? Remember this number Hmm Can't do man Aaron Foster would be in the Hall of Fame if he wasn't an atheist I want to say that for the record 0.75 sacks per science book yeah the science book that made him retire point seven five sacks per game for JJ watt I'm not saying that he's being discriminated. I'm saying that he made a bad move by being like, Hey guys, I'm an atheist. Point set point seven to stat sacks per game for Jared Allen. Jared Allen was really, really good.
Starting point is 02:31:34 So JJ watt had point zero three more sacks per game. Yeah. Got I'm happy we did that. And also, not to get too granular with it, but he played on some bad Texans teams that weren't exactly having to pin their ears back and rush the pass or the second half of a lot of games. Why don't we just flip this into a positive? Will just become a Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame podcast. Yeah, he should.
Starting point is 02:32:00 I had, he also, I made one of the least sold. I've ever made in my entire barstool career Hmm, I made a shirt that she said wine him dine him 69 and when we saw I thought he was the the finishing piece for the Bears Second year at restman or cap it down. He's gonna do this Holy shit. He's gonna be awesome Also, they really want to wear shirt said wine him down him 69 him the fact that he bounced around so much is Didn't really want to wear shirt said wine him down him 69 him the fact that he bounced around so much is Is not good for his Hall of Fame case either
Starting point is 02:32:33 Yeah, I mean I think obviously Vikings is the first Jersey you come up with but Chiefs Vikings and then at the end of his career, yep All right while most people watch my Cowboys get dismantled like a cheap tent on Monday night football I think about is how our beloved owner. Mr Jerry Jones actively attempted to murder multiple people with a piece of sheet metal under section 15.01 of the Texas Penal Code. I like this. Attempted murder carries a charge of up to 10 years in prison. It's time we stop letting the elites off the hook and hold them accountable for their actions. If you guys get Mike Portnoy Esquire to begin proceedings, that would be greatly appreciated. Class action. I mean he got Mike Tyson who couldn't even like stand up illegally commissioned in Texas like this guy's untouchable. He's tried to kill multiple people. He took the top off in mid November in Dallas. He could kill somebody and still not go to prison. No. Yeah he would not go to prison. He would yeah or he would build his own prison like Pablo Esquivore and be like just send me here.
Starting point is 02:33:22 It would just be Jerry. Yeah would be Jerry. Yeah, Jerry. Yeah, you should live in the stadium. Yeah. That is the dream though, to get like barely injured by a falling piece of metal in Jerry Jones Stadium. Oh my God. Just a scratch. You would never see me again.
Starting point is 02:33:36 I would be a billionaire. It would be awesome. Or you'd just get Cowboys tickets. That would suck. Yeah. No, that'd be, then I'd assume again. Yeah. Did you guys see the the Paul skeins giveaway?
Starting point is 02:33:47 There's a there's giving away a card. And if you get it's a rookie Paul skeins card. And if you get it, you get 30 years of pirate season tickets to seats behind home plate. Okay. It's a giveaway. You guys in? It seems like a burden. It's a lot of years. It's a lot of years for pirate season tickets. Can you resell them? I don't know. I would hope so. Here's what you get. You get a two pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years. Meet and greet with Paul Skeen's two Paul Skeenins autographed jerseys softball game for 30 at PNC Park. That's that's
Starting point is 02:34:26 awesome. Yeah. That is that is the sickest. Wait, someone did it. Someone got it. I don't know. I think this the pirates are looking for whoever pulls this card. So I would give it. Oh, they're trying to buy it like the card is already. That's the pirate out. But the the pirates are trying to get that so the pirates trying to get that card so they can sell it in like four years So they can pay Paul schemes. Yeah, and Libby done also offered they could watch a game in this week with her That's one of the box. Yep in the box Libby done offered admittance to her box. I Didn't say it Okay, good show boys good show Let's do numbers 3 11
Starting point is 02:35:13 memes You're never gonna get it memes 36 56 77 99 poke 33 Jack 21 77. 99 poke. 33. Jack. That's 21. Everyone go?
Starting point is 02:35:26 I think Jack said 33. What was your pick memes? 56. You've never gotten it. Nope. What was your pick PFT? 77. You also have never gotten it.
Starting point is 02:35:39 Oh that's what yeah memes picked last time. I'm trailing them. 95, 95. Love you guys. So So So So So Thanks for watching!

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