Pardon My Take - Patrick Beverley, March Is Here, NFL Cuts, Mike Tyson Is Back + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

March finally feels like it has arrived with Day Basketball. Shaka Smart needs to stop going on the court. NFL Cuts and Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul (00:00:00-00:30:08). Hank may be in the Patriots Documen...tary and he reveals his number 9 Patriot (00:30:08-00:42:33). Patrick Beverley joins the show in studio to talk about his NBA Career, how he went from Arkansas to overseas to the league, who he has current beef with, what makes him a dawg and tons more (00:42:33-02:00:53). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and a tease for a big Monday (02:00:53-02:14:57).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have an incredible interview with Patrick Beverly, our co-worker, also many-year NBA pro. He's on the Milwaukee Bucks. Also first team dog. First team dog.
Starting point is 00:00:24 It was awesome. It was an hour and 15 minute interview that could have gone even longer. We all walked away being like that rocked. We talked about everything with Pat Bev, all his feuds, his crazy story, getting into the league, everything. We're gonna talk a little more NFL cuts. We got some more cuts coming down the line.
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Starting point is 00:03:25 instant deposit match up to $100 in Pick 6 credits. Today is Friday, March 8th. Boys, I'm feeling the March madness. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. We got Bubblewatch everywhere. We got big games everywhere. Conference tournaments underway. Conference tournaments. Day basketball is here. Day basketball is nice not not just like a couple games We're talking about balls deep and day basketball balls deep and day basketball This is the time I was thinking about it these two weeks before Conference tournament March madness is such a weird We're like in the middle of everything. We're in the middle of NFL free agency happening
Starting point is 00:04:01 We're right before NFL free agency happening NBA NBA is kind of in a weird low. Hockey playoffs haven't started. We haven't gotten a conference championship. We're getting through that though right now to one of the best portions of the year and that is March and I wish someone had told me that Murray State Racers were the worst team in the country. Or did they fuck you? Oh man, they fucked me bad. Hard. But yeah, it's awesome. I mean, there's nothing better than Bubblewatch and all these teams fighting for their lives. We had like Seaton Hall, Villanova the other night. That was a great game.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Pug versus Max, Pug came out victorious. Pug is our people's champ. A lot of people were saying they didn't know that's what Pug looked like. Yeah, like someone said he looks like if you and Jake had a kid. Yeah, I agree. Pug is just like, he's better off being a figment
Starting point is 00:04:45 of one's imagination. Yeah, we also have senior night. Senior night. Always big. In some cases, multiple senior nights. Yeah. That's what I love about this time of year. It's like, if you're thinking that maybe you're gonna
Starting point is 00:04:56 kinda graduate, you can have senior night and then you can come back and do a second senior night. Armando Bacott finally had his final senior night. His last one? Yeah. Officially? Yeah, he had a UNC. I think we have UNC Duke on Saturday, but there was one senior night that bothered me. I didn't realize this till I turned it on. I think it was two nights ago. Did you guys know that Joe Gerard, Syracuse legend transferred to Clemson and then he had a senior
Starting point is 00:05:21 night against Syracuse. I didn't know that's kind of fucked up. That is fucked up. You should just say no, know what I'm good I don't need my jersey and everything I've only been here for a cup of coffee I'm a Syracuse legend. Yeah every nice senior night if you're young gravy right that's the guy that loves milf sake. Yeah I don't rap. He loves milf but that's like that's like saying like I like bacon. No some people don't like milfs. Actually no by very definition I think a milf. Yeah would be loved. Yes, right because it's someone that you'd love to fuck correct Okay, it's like he's kind of doing a late He's like he's like posting a picture of his dog online being like retweet this well
Starting point is 00:05:55 He's also kind of like the the Dana beers of the rap game where it's just like he's gonna say something That's universally beloved. Yeah, and make it his own brand like I'm the beer guy. I like drinking beer You know what gets slept on ice cream? Yeah, you're the ice cream guy. No, not enough people are talking about how good french fries are. Yeah, donuts. You're also the interesting, the ice cream guy and the no dunk guy. I like food. Hanks the golf and vacation guy. That's a pretty good brand. Yeah, he's doubling it up. I gotta find a boondoggle. Did you see Tennessee, SEC champions? Yes. My Tennessee volunteers. We had Yukon and Tennessee clinch in the last few days.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yep. I think Purdue as well. There's some arguments going on online, some discourse about Dalton Connect, doing the put the ring on my finger celebration. Yeah. Like save that for the tournament, buddy. I think if you're Dalton Connect and you transferred from, was it North Dakota? Yeah. Well, one of the Dakotas, you transferred from Dakota and you won an SEC championship, which is supposed to be a
Starting point is 00:06:49 very difficult conference this year. You should be allowed to stick your ring figure in people's faces. He won an SEC regular season championship. I think winning the SEC tournament is the ring. That's where I think it's the tournament is, it feels like when you get into the tournament conference championship week, that's the thing. If you ask Yukon, would they rather win the Biggie's tournament or the Biggie's regular season, I think they'd want to win the Biggie's tournament.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Both banners though, right? Yeah, you get a banner. But there's something about winning the tournament. You've got a year on a banner. Yeah, there's something about winning your tournament though that is special. Yeah, I agree. So hopefully they win that and then he gets another ring, double ring. Yeah, so as I've discussed on this show
Starting point is 00:07:26 I'm heavily leveraged into volunteers this year. I think Tennessee and Houston are my two picks I'm I'm a why is that? Just going with all free work Volunteers. Oh, that's good. Nice. Okay. Yeah, that brain is is lib left or right? Hey, did you sleep well last night? Oh, it was left. Yeah You slept well last in you. Yeah. Oh wait, did you get did you take your medicine? Yeah, Hank might be on his medicine right now. Yeah, it's I take my medicine every day. That's why you're locked in dosage Now you haven't seen the tongue out yet
Starting point is 00:08:00 Once the tongue comes out. Yeah. Good for you, Hank.. Okay. I forgot what I was gonna do. Oh, yeah, don't connect So um, I want I want Tennessee to do well I think that they could do well, but watching him play last night I was thinking myself like I I could see him getting shoved around in March. Yeah, I could see like a physical team Just like well Houston putting the yes Exactly, I could see a tough team like Houston Kelvin, Samson being like go out there and beat the fuck out of the skinny guy Yes, and see what happens. So I'm a little nervous about that, but I still I still really like Tennessee We we you know Tennessee is very very good. We also have a
Starting point is 00:08:35 Coach watch with shock of smart did you guys see the clip shock of smart? The fact that he's not been teed up. I'll try to find the clip for you. He runs He's playing defense as a sixth man on the court. It's insane. And I don't know Max, you, I mean you're a Big East guy like, does this, how does this not, how is this allowed? I mean, Shaka Smart is like the universally hated guy of every team in the Big East. It's crazy. Watch this PFT. Watch this. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Look at him. Look at him play defense. He's on he's on he's on the court He's he's guarding guys on the court. No one's saying anything. I actually think he stepped over I think he was like he would have shot a two-pointer. Yes, if he had the ball Yes, he he's actually more on the court than off the court He spends more time on the court in this one possession that that everyone was noting. It's insane He's in a perfect spot for a three point shot if someone wanted to pass on the ball. That film is going to get out though. Raphs are going to be looking for it in the next
Starting point is 00:09:34 game. It's crazy. We also had Matt Iberfluss and Matt LaFour sitting next to each other. So Matt Iberfluss is hot. Dude he's becoming Zaddy. I was going to say he's a daddy. Yeah he is. He is. Big daddy vibes.'s got the the nice like gelled up hair now I the stubbly beard I don't think it's gonna work, but I appreciate him trying something new yeah, and looks like a bear I I would almost guarantee that Matt LaFleur probably tricks Matt Iberfluss into giving him some type of secret about the draft or Something which has been like so what are you guys thinking about one in nine? And then Matt Everfoot was like, well, here's what we're going to do. Do you think they actually talked any football at all?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Matt LaFleur probably tried to talk football. Matt Everfoot was like, what do you, I don't speak that. I don't speak that language. Matt Everfoot was like, you know who's really good is Justin Fields. You could use Justin Fields, right? You could use them. I was like, yeah. Well, people were creating funny memes where it was just Matt LaFleur being like, so if you're ever down eight, you're always wanna kick the field goal
Starting point is 00:10:31 and Matt Eberfoos being like, okay, okay, that's good strategy. That makes sense. Yeah, so by the way, Matt LaFleur, we gotta get him back on the show. He did reach out to me. I think he was happy that Dan Quinn got some field goal anger.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Little take him off the take him off the hot seat for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. I've been holding that one for a long time. I was able to overlook Dan Quinn making the Matla floor mistake because honestly, I would suck a dick to get to the NFC championship game in general. So if he fucks that up in a late game scenario against Tom Brady, I would be OK with that. Yes. Yes. I'm a loser. I don't I don't care about that. We have in football we do have cut day the bills cut their entire team. Mm hmm. Tomorrow. No. Prey's up for tomorrow. Prey's up for tomorrow. No they he was the original climbing cut Mitch Morse which was the big surprise. He was the original climbing he was the big surprise their center. I think Jordan Jordan poyers out The couple other guys DJ poyo. They're doing a whole reset which is needed
Starting point is 00:11:30 So I was yeah, I was seeing all these cuts yesterday and there was a lot of window talk about the bills You have to talk about their window if it's opening or closing Trudevious white is really fucking good. He's good when he's healthy, but he's been out. Yeah, he hasn't been healthy I I almost feel like like the bills could deal with just getting new blood in there that haven't been around for the heartbreaks because you carry that baggage with you. If you're a player on that team,
Starting point is 00:11:53 if you're a coach on that team, every time you have a heartbreaking loss to Joe Burrow or to Patrick Mahomes, especially Patrick Mahomes, you kinda, that's a scar that you keep with you for a long time. And in the back of your head, you're like, are we gonna be able to do it this this time get some guys in there that don't know any better Yeah, I mean I think they they were smart in the fact well not even smart
Starting point is 00:12:11 They had to do it They were in cap hell and they don't want to become like the Saints where every year They're just in cap hell so they did a hard reset. Yeah, I don't mind get some get some players in the draft There's a lot of centers in the draft get some new blood there. There was another report that came out I think was on the Pat McAfee show Dalton Schultz was talking about the difference between playing for the Texans and the Cowboys Mm-hmm, and he was saying some things about Hank's Dallas Cowboys that Seem kind of ridiculous to an outsider somebody that's not like on that team are familiar with Dallas. Oh, he said that they In Dallas, it's like being in a zoo. That when you work out in the workout facility,
Starting point is 00:12:45 in the weight room, there are tours of people that go by and there's a one-way mirror. And people can walk by and just watch you work out and tap on the glass and try to get your attention. So they're doing, it's like an amusement park for football fans going through there, seeing the team work out. He's like, it's nice to just be an environment
Starting point is 00:13:02 where football is football. And that's what it's kind of always going to be like in Dallas if Jerry Jones is the owner. So you take the good and the bad. But that's the prime example of why Dallas, if you're a player on the Cowboys, you're like, why do you pay so much attention to us? Why are we the only thing that you talk about?
Starting point is 00:13:18 What are the hot takes? Well, because you turn. You're a zoo. You're a zoo. Where people can go through and it's more of like an entertainment thing. I would imagine being on that team and it's more of like an entertainment thing. I would imagine being on that team, it wouldn't be the best thing in the world
Starting point is 00:13:28 to be working on how people watch you. Yeah. Having people watch you work out, like you're making weird noises, you're sweaty, that shit sucks. Yeah, you need a haircut probably. I don't really work out. But yeah, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:39 We also had Michael Thomas' time with the Saints has ended, and he ended in the perfect Michael Thomas way, where it was reported by a Saints insider who wrote a long article being like the tumultuous, you know, times Michael Thomas, it didn't work out. Michael Thomas then went to Twitter and he said, Jeff Duncan, funny how they planned on releasing me
Starting point is 00:14:02 if I was on a one year deal, don't fall for it. He the same dude that tried to be my friend in season after saying I wasn't the same player in training camp. Next topic, but not next topic because we're gonna stay on Jeff Duncan for a minute. Jeff Duncan is a hoe. No, that's a new topic. Trying to stay relevant, so let's speak on it.
Starting point is 00:14:19 The Saints leak information to him to try to ruin players value, but see, I'm not broke so I can speak on it. He is broke so he needs clicks. Go look at all his articles that never ended up being true. Next topic. Look at this clown. It's a picture of Jeff Duncan. Y'all think he know ball. Yeah, right. Y'all really click clicking links to what he write. Hashtag good luck. Look like he take them salt things. What is that? What's a salt thing? I don't know. Smelling salts? No.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Bass salts. Bass salts? Do you think that's what it is? Chips? Salt things. You take them salt things. What are the salt things? It might be bass salts.
Starting point is 00:14:56 It might be bass salts, yeah. Salt things. I'm looking up. Look like you take them salt things. What are salt things? It's my cat promise from Florida. Salt things. Bass salts, margarita salts salts I think he means bath salts I think bath salts yeah he's doing the zombie thing or maybe he's just salty salty person
Starting point is 00:15:14 Hank takes those salt things yeah Hank is on those salt things for sure absolutely but yeah everyone's getting cut we're getting ready we're getting ready for NFL free agency everyone's getting cut. We're getting ready for NFL free agency. Everyone's getting cut. I was actually, I forgot that Michael Thomas was still on the saints. Yeah. Hand up. They gotta find a new slant.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yeah. So yeah, what else is going on now? There's some more fallout with the archmaning decision. Yeah. People are still mad about that. It's not really new fallout, just more people getting mad about archmaning. And I think they're actually gonna stop people from creating their own
Starting point is 00:15:46 archmanning in the game yeah which is I don't like that no I don't like that your own arch we have Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson yeah so I'm gonna watch I'm I'm still the mindset that I think Mike Tyson could kill anybody steps in the ring with I've said this before but I, we're both of the age where I remember the end of Mike Tyson's career and still like, like begging my dad to buy the pay per views. So I was like, he could knock anyone out. Yeah. And just getting 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And getting absolutely like, the end of his career, he just wasn't, he was just biting people's ears. He wasn't trying like, but the idea is that Mike Tyson One of the most ferocious boxers of all time could knock anyone out at any moment And that's how you sell fights and I'm in on this fight. So this is kind of crazy He's walking with his cane. It doesn't matter. Yeah, still one punch Hank. You could kill him one punch Unless they have the no knockout rule then it's gonna suck because remember they did that Oh, they can't have the no knockout. They did it's gonna suck. Because remember they did that. Oh, they can't have the no knockout rule.
Starting point is 00:16:45 They did that though. They don't sanction the fight. They make it a no knockout rule. I don't like that. They just stand around. Exhibition. That would be. They didn't sanction the fight.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I would not buy it if it was no knockout. If it was Mike Tyson, no knockout. I think it's free. Okay. Well, if you have a Netflix. Okay. Well, that's so, again, I think it's free because everyone has Netflix. Or you have your mom's password.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah. But yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna watch because Mike Tyson could knock anyone out. So this accidentally knock them out. It's a rare fight where I think most most times when Jake Paul Paul fights somebody in fact, I'd say almost every time people buy the fight because it's Jake Paul, let's see what he can do. That's he's the main attraction in this one. I think Mike Tyson might be the main attraction out of doubt. Without a doubt like Mike
Starting point is 00:17:24 Tyson, I think could fight almost anybody and I would watch. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he, I'm in. No matter what. And it's free. So I'm doubling. But the no knockout's gonna suck.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I also respect Jake Paul for taking every single fight where afterwards the question is that was impressive. Do you think he could do it against a real fighter? Yeah. He just finds new ways to redirect the conversation Yeah, and this is a perfect one because Mike ties is a real fighter, but he's 57 years. He's six fifty eight Yeah, so lost to Tommy Paul who Jake Paul. Yeah, he did or Tommy fury Tommy fury Tommy Paul Tommy Paul tennis It you have tennis on the brain. Oh, no, I just Tommy Paul Jake Tommy Paul Jake Tommy Paul
Starting point is 00:18:06 Did you see Chris Sims also released his top six QB's in the shears draft? I Did not see that. Okay. I will read it to you. Did you is it some of the people are talking about? Yeah, I mean he Chris Sims is for everything. He's wrong about with to an on He actually has been pretty good with his tears when it comes to the quarterback stuff when I think Chris Sims I think two and on and then I think Blake portals yeah hated Blake okay so tier one a class of his own Caleb Williams okay tier two number one in other years Jaden Daniels tier, franchise starting quarterbacks. There's a lot of franchise starting quarterbacks in one year.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr., JJ McCarthy. Bo Nix. Bo Nix is number three. Tier four, talented project, Drake May. He knows what he's doing. Drake May, talented project. I think two years ago on this very podcast we said I can't wait until Bo Nix enters the draft and some team takes him in the first round. And then I think the other
Starting point is 00:19:11 person, I forget who was on each side of this conversation, the other person said that's never going to happen. Have you watched him play? Now, now, Chris Sims has been very wrong too. He just, I do know that he like actually watches the film and he's making his own decisions. So I at least respect him thrown out there because I do think he had Zach Wilson number one with the draft with Trevor Lawrence, which that whole drafts things. So we've got Drake as an interesting project
Starting point is 00:19:37 and it sounds like how many franchise quarterbacks do we have? Because I'm gonna count. Six. Six franchise quarterbacks. Six. That would be the best quarterback draft in the history of the NFL Yeah, okay. Yeah, listen if there's six franchise quarterbacks I'm gonna I'm gonna miss on the seventh. That's that's what it's gonna be Chris Sims did I'm looking back right now at his previous ones 2017
Starting point is 00:20:01 He did have Patrick Holmes is his most talented most special QB talent so he's been right at least once okay You know what? It's in the hands of the Lord. Yeah, that's how you got to feel it. It's just like it what is it is what it is It is what it is. Well, what happened will happen. All right. I'm looking 20 2018 rankings of quarterbacks number one Lamar Jackson number two Josh Allen number three Baker Mayfield Number four Sam Darnell number five Josh Rosen. He kind of nailed that. Yeah nailed that well Josh Rosen number five Yeah, yeah, I mean you had to put someone number five. I guess so yeah Yeah, but he kind of I mean I would put Josh Allen number one
Starting point is 00:20:40 But he like to have cuz Sam Darnell went first out of all of them. Yeah. So he kind of nailed, no Baker, Baker went first, then Sam Darnold, then Josh Allen, then Josh Rose, and then Lamar. So he kind of nailed that. So Chris Sims, maybe, let's see, 2019. This is actually a sad thing to go through. Record with QB 2019. He had Kyler Murray, one, Drew Lock, two, Dwayne Haskins three Ryan Finley four Jared Stidham five Daniel Jones six so he kind of nailed that one 2020 what Daniel Jones I put Daniel Jones above Finley yeah but Kyler Murray number one six or 2020 had Joe Burrow one Justin Herbert two Jordan Love three two or four that might age well I might age fuck okay so that might age well my age fuck okay so
Starting point is 00:21:26 I might age well so he's got in terms of franchise quarterbacks bow Nicks JJ McCarthy and and Michael Penn and Michael Penn X and then he obviously had Zach Wilson number one in the 2021 draft so that did not go well but he's he's been more right than wrong it's a lot to think about he's been more right than wrong that kind of scares me but he's been more right than wrong. It's a lot to think about he's been more right than wrong That kind of scares me, but he's been more right than wrong Except doesn't scare because I have a number one pick is there a chance this is you gotta take Jane Daniels So that's the thing is like I've never been more sure of the fact that Whichever quarterback that we don't take is gonna be really good, right?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Hmm, and then that and then Hank gets the one that we don't take. Yep, like we're numbered I would rather be picking third. I would. Yeah, cause then you're like, well, we had to do it. We had to do it. Our decision was made for us. The Texans. Cause I like Drake and I like Jaden. You're in the worst spot. I am in the worst spot. Hank, would you like to trade up to number two? I'll trade back to number three and then I'll throw in like a long snapper.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Because even if Kale Williams doesn't pan out, which probably won't because he's gonna go to the bears but even if he doesn't it was a consensus like if you were number one pick if you were number one pick if you were number you all would have taken Kail Williams you had to do it so I'm clear yeah I'm clear with that well that happened before with whom with Mitch well he was number two pick and he also just got a new contract I don't know if you saw that yeah no I know I'm just saying all their good players to get pick up Mitch you're not you're being like oh it's consensus number one five years if it doesn't pay now you big fuck well yeah but everyone everyone would have taken Caleb Williams yeah of course you'll
Starting point is 00:23:01 say fuck it didn't work out but it was like it was only consensus but I would say that Caleb Williams is the right pick to make it number one right now. Right, if you guys had number one, like if the Chiefs had had number two in that 2017 draft, they would've probably taken Patrick from my homes. I don't know if there's another team that if they had number one would take anyone
Starting point is 00:23:17 but Caleb Williams, right? And then two, you have to decide, and then three, you get whoever's left. So yeah, Hank and I are in a good spot I need to know who's controlling the monitor computer. Yeah, why do we right now because it keeps searching on on Twitter for Sydney Sweeney and then scrolling through all the images Who's doing that memes is that you? It's not I'm not gonna say who it is, but it's not me somebody's just looking up Sydney Sweeney right now
Starting point is 00:23:47 She was trending. Max you're just like, no, no. You typed in Sydney Sweeney. Wrong! Look! It's trending. It was the first thing that was trending. I thought maybe something. Max, I would think that Sydney Sweeney would be one of your favorites. No, I mean I was just seeing what was going on. I've looked up Mitch before before I showed Mitch and I thought maybe Sidney's got something. Max you absolute freak did you forget that we could see that? I don't know I guess. Add to the list Hank. By the way I have a weird thing going on that means you might be interested in. I
Starting point is 00:24:21 don't know how this happened I don't know if I've ever met him in my life, but Greg Zerline just texts me randomly Really? Yeah, one of the weirdest one. He like sends me like memes and stuff Like he sent me a text. Good luck with the free throws today GZ. I like that I have a great Saturday big cat. Hope you enjoy this meme and it's just a meme. It's like a blurred meme I don't even understand the meme. Yeah, I don't know either one of the weirder what I we had zero line I like you dude we had him on the show I think like 2017 oh we did we did punt week that's right it was him Marquette King MacPhee but he's a place we had kicker week I don't know that we had him on I don't think we did have him on I think he just has my number and
Starting point is 00:25:01 I'm friends with Greg Zurline he just me, hope you're having a great day man, GZ. I like that. Same to you Greg. I've never met him. I kind of want to call him. I just feel like how'd you get my number dude? But yeah, he's Greg Zerlein. How about that? Oh yeah, so you're just looking at, you're looking at Sydney Sweeney right now Max while we're just doing the show. She was trending. I thought maybe that we could get some,
Starting point is 00:25:25 maybe something happened that we could talk about. Get some info. So why were you only looking at the images result? That's not true. Just if you click on her thing, it's all images. So why is she trending? No, you were on the media tab. No, I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yes, you were. This is a different tab than it was before, Max. This is a lie. So why is she trending, Max? I don't know. Max, how much did you look at that Steph Curry picture last night? Not for me. Or Boobs back? Boobs, I told you. Sidney Sweeney has done it. I think Boobs are back guys. Yeah, that picture all time for people who didn't see. There's a picture of Steph Curry after he had a big three and in the background there's a woman who has a large breasts, very attractive and then a guy sitting front row with his two
Starting point is 00:26:09 kids just completely turned around staring at her rack. And that guy had probably the worst walk into his house where he was like, that was great. I took the boys to a game, dad of the year, then his wife, no, the official NBA account cropped it out. Oh, I love that. Yeah, they cropped it out. She's right behind it. That's, you know what, that's disgusting on the part of the NBA.
Starting point is 00:26:32 That, there it is, that's the picture. To me, that's actually body shaming that woman. Yeah. Who went to the game simply to celebrate to cheer on her favorite team. Look at this guy, it's so cool. And the NBA is like, your body is so inappropriate that we won't include it in a picture of the game.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Yeah, that's so perfect that that guy just like, he's sitting with his two young sons and just bam. Whoops. How was the game, honey? Oh, it was great. Did Steph Curry hit any big shots? Yeah, of course. What did you think of his celebration?
Starting point is 00:27:02 Can you explain this picture? I think there was a fight going on. Yeah, I was telling her to sit down because she was disrupting the crowd. Maybe we do Mount Rushmore top moments like when you're in the stands, that being one of them, when there's just that happening behind you,
Starting point is 00:27:21 but there's nothing better than being in the stands and there's a fight breakout and everyone stands up and like, that whole section takes their eyes off. You're like, ooh, what's going on? Remember when the Caps won the Stanley Cup and I think OV was getting the cup and that woman in viz just took her tits out and pushed them up against the glass?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yep, that rocked. Yep, that happened in a World Series game too. Yeah, yeah. Marlon's man, I think he was right there. He was. We have some inside sources and when I say inside sources. That was Jake Paul's girlfriend. Yeah, Keith Y Marlins Man, I think he was right there. He was. We have some inside sources and when I say inside sources. That was Jake Paul's girlfriend. Yeah, Keith Yandall saw, I don't even know
Starting point is 00:27:50 if I told you this. Oh, this is unreal. Keith Yandall ran into Marlins Man at the track on Saturday. Yeah, okay. All right, so I picked up, he did the usual, so Keith Yandall FaceTiming me, Marlins Man was sitting next to him, he did the usual so Keith Yandle FaceTime me Marlins been was saying next to him He did the usual he was like hey Hank. Where's Rita? Hey, hey, where's PFT's mom?
Starting point is 00:28:09 I was like, all right, what are we doing my own? Mm-hmm. They're real. I yeah, they're real And then I hung up and Keith Yandle text me after he goes I ran into Marlins man And I was like I know the guys from part of my take and Marlins man said if you know them what are Saturdays for? The passcode passcode is boys. You'll never you'll never get So perfectly Marlins man. Yeah, what a gangster. Okay only other thing I had from the sports world has been Simmons is out for the year Okay, I don't even know then even he's at the point now where it's not even news anymore. We're doing the Ben Simmons and Michael Thomas are not playing their sports. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 That's leading the show today. Yeah, no shit. But yeah, what has Ben Simmons been doing? It was news to me that he was in for the year. Yeah. And now he's out. Well, that's too bad. Oh, yeah, Carl Anthony Towns. The meniscus.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah, the wolves. That's tough for the wolves. Very tough for the wolves. Poor wolves, out indefinitely. But the Warriors might be back. Yeah, no, they've been playing good ball, other than the drumming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Well Hank, you, well, Steph said like that. I know the term gets overused a lot and I coined it. And I, you know, sometimes we say it tongue in cheek, jokingly. That was the definition of a start of championship DVD loss. Against the Cavs. Against the Cavs. Late in the season, they got complacent, they blew a huge fourth quarter lead.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It doesn't affect them in the standings. They're still number one, they still have a good lead, like as long as they play out the rest of season good. But that was a wake-up, that was a good wake-up call game. I would actually, I would make the argument that it's the very definition of a start of the championship TV lost for the Warriors to get hit by it for it hit by a bus yeah yeah that's also that's fair I think that fits me a lot more no but they the Celtics blew a lead it's like number one team on the road up by there are like 17 with nine minutes left and they lost
Starting point is 00:30:07 and there's no excuse for it but ultimately it's just starting to change it's gonna they're still gonna be the ones so what happened what's more powerful of its warriors Celtics in the finals which one I think it might be warriors getting off the Celtics the Celtics if the Warriors go on a run here yeah I would love to play the Warriors in the finals love to yeah because the last time you played him you killed them and we're just a way better team like we've upgraded since that team
Starting point is 00:30:28 Steph is old Jermon's old they don't have Jordan pool Jordan pool Jordan pool killed us in that series and then he got punched and then everything changed yeah yeah but they got that big man what's his name who warriors new big man they got that they're playing more are you talking about uh I know wait are you talking about their usual big man the guy that's playing more are you talking about
Starting point is 00:30:48 I know wait are you talking about their usual big man? No What's are you talking about coming? I'm gonna come in. It's playing more. Yeah, the cum bucket. Yeah, I like it Yeah, that's his nickname. Yeah, they come back. Yeah coming of the cum bucket Okay, should we Get to pay the Hanks Patriot Should we get to the Hanks Patriot? Patriot of the day. Before we do that, Coors Light. Brought to you by Coors Light, the most delicious beer in the world,
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Starting point is 00:32:01 director Had to release a statement because at the end credits of every episode, it's like all rights, Kraft LLC or something like that. And everyone's like, well, clearly the Krafts created this as a bill well check takedown piece. And then they had to release a statement being like, no, the Patriots gave us a bunch of footage and we had to create an LLC so that Apple
Starting point is 00:32:24 wouldn't own the footage, the Kraft LLC would own the footage. Seems like a lot of footage and we had to create an LLC so that Apple wouldn't own the footage the craft LLC would own the footage Seems like a lot of talking about the fact that the public opinion is like this is a crazy crazy documentary how they've done it Yeah, so they're saying wait a second. It actually isn't the crafts documentary. It just is owned by the correct. Okay. All right Yep, fair enough. Yep. Simple confusion. I'm glad they said that because until that statement came out, I was like, I think that the crafts might own this. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So we have two new episodes coming out. Two new episodes coming out. Can't say I'm looking forward to them. Although, selfishly, hopefully, I'm in one. What would you be in? Oh, deflake it? Do you, wait, what would you say the percentages are that you Oh, deflake it? Do you? Wait. What would you say the percentages are that you're in deflake it?
Starting point is 00:33:10 I think the shot of us getting taken out. Getting arrested? I think good. Give me the percentage. I mean, I- It would be so fucking awesome if you were in there. They asked the- I will say this too, I do- Oh, you have inside knowledge. Months and months and months ago, but who knows what made the final cut. Producers hit me in gas up and were like- Oh, you're in. months and months and months ago, but who knows what made the final cut producers hit me and gas up
Starting point is 00:33:25 Oh, you're in we're looking for footage. Hey, why did you say that you're in this documentary? Cuz I don't know what they use or what they don't use when you're making these you just get everything you can get and then Well, if it's if it's you and guys they definitely have you guys either marching outside Yeah sitting down in the lobby or getting taken out I'm guessing it will just be like a quick shot of us walking out. Hey, you're in this thing. I hope. Are you getting paid? No. Does Robert Kraft own you? Yeah. What do we have to do clear the rights of me and guys like just use whatever you want. Wait, do you want to be in this now that it's become a takedown of Bill Bolcher? Yeah, just Leo. Leo meme. Yeah, the
Starting point is 00:34:01 Leo meme is gonna hit hard. Yeah, that'd be it be but I don't want to get overexcited It could very well get cut. Yeah, no, I I understand how it works, but I Feel like they will use a B roll shot of us walking out with it It's awesome Tom Brady get getting suspended had Patriots fans like and then it's a picture of your workout picture That would suck But for today, we're gonna do on a mention or my player for today, do you want to do Arnold Mention or my player first? You traditionally do your player first.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So remember, if it's not Mike Vrable, he might beat your ass. Well, it is. Oh, OK. In hindsight, I wish I put him higher. Remember, you can't cheat on this. I didn't. Holy Bellinger has the mask on.
Starting point is 00:34:41 No, no, I didn't. I didn't cheat on it. I'm saying in hindsight, if I knew what I knew, I would put him probably in the three spot. Great linebacker for a long time. Great pass catcher. Legendary touchdowns. Like they didn't even show that in really the documentary.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It was crazy. So what number did you have him? He is number nine. Number nine. Top 10 of all time. Put me on this text. I want to see. Put me on the text. I was thinking I would just put me on the text I was just I would call him. Yeah, call him
Starting point is 00:35:08 No, don't put Hank on the text. No, we're gonna call it We're gonna call Mike for able and get his his immediate feedback congrats. They can grab. I mean that's Top ten is good He also beat you know beat Tom Brady in his last it's kind of like the Chris Long thing. There's there is there is some Some bad your call has been That's top scene. Yeah, but it's all in the text very tough. Don't put it. I thank you not killing on the text So he's your number nine He was featured pretty heavily in the first couple episodes, but I would like to get interviews with Vrable.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I wanted to see Vrable talking to America. I want to hear more, I want to hear from Brady about what Vrable used to say to him, because they kind of just gloss over it a little bit, but they were like, we were all pretty mean to Tommy and Mike Vrable was by far the most ruthless. Yeah. He was just like, yeah. But great guy, recurring guest of the show.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Number nine, Patriot. All right, yeah. Saved your ass, maybe. And your honorable mention. My honorable mention is Ligaret Blunt, the bowling ball. Yeah, he was fun to watch. Super fun to watch. Yeah, P.S.T. just says, Hank, Hank has you number nine
Starting point is 00:36:23 on the Patriots All Time. Do you have a comment? So we'll wait for comment. We'll wait for comment. And then write quotation marks. You can do that on your own. I'll just actually, I might have to. Kind of low, not gonna lie. I'm gonna add kind of low, not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I mean, that is disrespectful. You said you wish you had put him number three. Well, yeah, now that I knew he was locked in. Why did you put him number three? I did this with recurring guests. I don't think I'm stupid and I don't. Well, you don't think you're stupid? No, I don't think period.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I'm stupid. Okay, okay. I forget that this is a show that's listened to by a lot of people, including the people that we talk about. So when I make these lists, I'm just making the list. I'm not thinking about Same actually I did people coming back and being like like obviously I should have put Julian Edelman Mount Rushmore guests Like I love Julian Edelman. He's a hero. I just wasn't thinking like that. He is up there
Starting point is 00:37:15 But realizing that he was gonna be like what the fuck you hurt me versus he could have been like you're my boy You put me top four were boys now like that was dumb. Yeah Rable same thing Teddy Bruce. He's not gonna hear it Teddy Bruce. He's gonna give fuck I should have put variable three and like we would be boys, but yeah He's gonna be like hanks a fucking loser. I'm gonna give him a noogie the next time I see him Yeah, he's in no gear and probably hurt a lot probably give you concussion So that I need to get better at pandering and like being you know thinking it is it is about clout and not about just my Honest not about I think honesty. Not about truth. I think it is the beauty of this show though
Starting point is 00:37:47 is that we all kind of do the same thing. We're like, we just tape a show and then send it out and we're like, pshh, no one's gonna hear this. Wait, shit, a lot of people heard this. Yeah, the real world exists. Yeah, where are you gonna say Max? No, I was just gonna. Max is gonna be like, now, everyone's gonna be talking
Starting point is 00:38:01 about me looking at Cindy Swinney's tits on the middle of the show. No, I was just gonna say, I was just gonna bust your balls and say, it was stupid. I was gonna say that I would say that Julian Edelman should have been in the Mount Rushmore. But you said no. Breaking Moose! Breaking Moose! Breaking Moose! Ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt And he said fuck Hank. I'm gonna nudge you. What the fuck away. No, he said that's a good spot. Let's go Oh, you go. All right He said it took seven final ballots to get into the Hall of Fame. Okay, so yeah
Starting point is 00:38:34 It's good spot Shutter frames. Yeah. Oh, we didn't even say one probably the biggest news of this podcast is week is that uh We're in contact with Big Dom. Yeah. Max is like there's bigger news. Yeah. Well, I'm saving that for my firefest. We're in contact with Big Dom. I now what's the bigger he doesn't know. He does know. Whatever. Just shut up Max. Max's was so so excited he asked me if I could screenshot the text I got from Big Dom so he could send it to his family. Yes, that actually is exactly what I wanted to do. I wanted to send it to my family.
Starting point is 00:39:12 We were talking about like, we were talking about the different eulogies that you're going to get when you die. I think Max, if he died, would like to have just a screenshot of that text displayed over his casket. He did say Max's name. The exact text was, this is Dom with the Eagles. I just wanted to say I appreciate and respect the shit out of you, PFT and Max. I'm a big fan of your show. If you're ever in Philly or need anything you know, I got you my Pizons. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:35 With the Italian flag emoji. The best. He's the best. And later that night my older brother gave birth to his second kid named him Dom. Your brother gave birth to his second kid? My brother's wife gave birth to his second kid named him Dom. Your brother gave birth to his second kid? My brother's wife gave birth to his second kid named him Dom, Big Dom. Did he name him after Dom? I'm going to say that for the first entire life that he's named after Big Dom.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Big Dom, if you're listening right now, that is your god son. 100%. That's your god son. I would go so far as to say that the name Dom might be on the Mount Rushmore of boy names Yeah, that you don't want to get to a fight with yeah, like this is my buddy Dominic He's coming over Dominic's gonna stab you. Yeah Dominic. Delente is a strong. Oh, yeah Yeah, double D is like yeah, like they have to use your hands to say that name. Yeah Dom Delente
Starting point is 00:40:23 I can't wait for like 20 years from now when we have Dom Delente like sitting in the intern spot we're just trolling him. Dom Delente is gonna sit 12 years in prison for tax evasion. We're just like Dom Delente question for you is it a must win or can't lose? Like, what? You guys, what the fuck do you do this? Fuck do this for me. All right, let's get to our interview. It is a must listen. I'm gonna say right now, Pat Bev is the man.
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Starting point is 00:43:32 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. Man, thank you. Long time overdue. It is Pat Bev, Patrick Beverly. How many years in the NBA now? 10, no, 11? 12. 12, 12 years in the NBA now? 10, no, 11? 12. 12, 12 years in the NBA. Go check out his podcast on Barstool Sports,
Starting point is 00:43:50 Pat Bev, Pod with Ron. Ron. Yeah, you stole Ron from us. We should just get that out of the way right away. Stole Ron from us. So I was told that, by a very, very, very, very, very intelligent woman, her name was Erica. She goes, when we picked you all, we knew something good was there.
Starting point is 00:44:14 So I'm guessing you were a part of that group also who did the picking. I did say Ron would be perfect for it, but I didn't know that was also signing my death sentence. You never see Ron again. It's fine. Ron is incredible. Now he's incredible.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Perfect co-host. He's incredible. He's one of the best. He is. He's one of our most talented people. And the thing about Ron is you could put him in any, any situation and he will be good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:38 He was just with the housewives of Salt Lake City and Milwaukee. Okay. Backroom chilling, eating shrimp or derbs. That's, Ron and I actually have talked about doing a Bravo podcast. Yeah, he's locked in. You and I both like the Housewives.
Starting point is 00:44:53 All right, so you're here. Shout out to Ron. Like I said, long time overdue. We got a lot to talk about. I don't even know where we wanna start. Actually, you know what? I know where we wanna start. Who's the number one beef right now for Pat Pfeff?
Starting point is 00:45:04 Beef? Yeah. Your coaches aren't shaking your hands. Your former coaches aren't shaking your hands Actually, you know what I know where we want to start who's who's the number one beef right now for Pat Pfeff beef. Yeah Your coaches aren't shaking your hands your former coaches aren't shaking your hands after games Steve Clifford from the Charlotte Hornets. He did okay Finch didn't Billy Donovan told me he loved me Okay, he did okay, so we're back on the right track. What happened with the other two. I don't know that was weird I'm a nurse and Finch didn Finch didn't shake your hands. Did you go up to them? Did you try to initiate a handshake? I did. I took Finch but I walked down at a nurse who was already gone. And I've been on the side where I watched because you know I want to be a future coach. So I like to watch the mannerism of coaches and how they what they
Starting point is 00:45:40 do before games and how do they greet the other coaches after games. And I like to try to you okay cool I'll use that I I'm not gonna do that. And you know Finchie is one of those guys who, you know, stay and this person and you know this to this coach. Yeah, little wave. Yeah, cool. And you know, then I'm interested because I wanted to say what's up to him. Because I didn't talk to him since trade.
Starting point is 00:45:58 So it wasn't like we just beat y'all, fuck you, like whatever. I played off of that game anyway. So like it wasn't I was trying to exploit anything. But yeah, I look over like, damn it, fuck. Fuck you, go. Like, just disappeared on me. But, yeah. Is that because you're an opponent today?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Probably so. I'm gonna take it that way. I'm gonna take it, I hope it's like that. Imagine if it's not. I don't know you that well, but from what I do know about you, I would imagine that you as a head coach would kind of be the same way,
Starting point is 00:46:29 where it's like, fuck them, we're playing you guys today, afterwards we can be nice. No. You don't think so? No, not me. As a head coach, I'm on some shit like, you gotta understand, like I'm there,
Starting point is 00:46:38 the first Sixers practice ever, with three G-League guys and you know, me and Tyrese Maxie, you know, on the first year the coaches be it, that's, you know, you remember shit like that. You know, his first preseason game, we played Boston, he started me. I remember shit like that as a player,
Starting point is 00:46:54 so obviously as a coach, I will hope that he remembers shit like that, so like, when you build those type of relationships, when I got kicked out of school, he was the first coach that I met when he was Iowa Energy. I played for him when I was in the G League. So the relationship isn't like, no, we just met this season, it's deeper than it's what it's ever been.
Starting point is 00:47:11 So for him to walk off, I felt some type of worry. Yeah. What about Daryl Mori, still beef there? I just, I know Daryl. You understand what I'm saying? He literally came and got me from overseas. So like, I've been on the Rockets teams. Well, I'm like, yeah, Daryl, give me the fuck up out of here,
Starting point is 00:47:24 man, find me somewhere else to play. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's business, on the Rockets teams. Well I'm like, yeah, Dara, get me the fuck up out of here. Man, find me somewhere else to play. You know what I'm saying? Like, I, so it's business. I understand how it is. You get a 35 year old, you pay him the minimum, right? You get Pat Baird for the fucking minimum. Like the steel, literally steel. You get all the vibes.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You get all the vibes. He changes my locker room. He literally helps the organization make millions and millions and millions and millions and more dollars. We're talking about Pat Baird right now. Right, we talking about Pat Bev. Right, belt to ask. Right, belt to ask, comes in locker room,
Starting point is 00:47:48 gets locker room in order, pays well, then you trade them, you get a younger campaign, and you get a 14 year old, a second round pick, 10,000. I was like wait, did they actually get a 14 year old? No, no, no, 15 years old. 14 year old man. Yeah, 15 years old. Whoever it is, he's literally 15 years old. He just hit puberty. He's probably listening to this podcast right now,
Starting point is 00:48:10 he doesn't even know. You just, congratulations, you got traded to the sixth. Right, you don't even know. Exactly, so you get that from a guy you paid minimum and 35, you gotta think that's a hell of a business move. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I understand it.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I think Roan took it harder than you took it. Oh, Roan's. Everyone in Philly, Roan's like it's almost devastated. Devastated. We were there the moment it happened and he couldn't, it's a super old tradition now because last year you got traded, I think the jazz for a minute. Yeah. It was like hot minute.
Starting point is 00:48:38 He was like, oh shit, I gotta go to Utah. Hot minute, so I get traded jazz, six story. I don't think I ever told you, I get traded to the jazz and I don't know. Like they just literally traded everybody. Donovan Mitchell's going, Rudy Goldberg's going. I'm like, okay, are you guys trying to be competitive? You know, but I really don't know anyone cause I literally just got traded there.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I show up every day, 5.30, six days in a row. I show up every fucking day, 5.30. I'm the first motherfuckered there. By that time I'm done, people, GMs are just walking in. Are we trying to win? Just let me know. Let me know if we trying to win.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I got motherfuckers out of their bed six o'clock in the morning. Yeah, I'm talking about professional. I see GM, he walking there with a son. I go, hey man, I gotta get out of here, Pat, I gotta take my son to school. I'm like, you know what, I'm glad you said that, cause I'm just trying to see why I'm gonna take my son to school this season.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And I'm gonna be in Utah or I'm gonna be, I need to know, same vibes. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, that was a trick. I mean that's a tough one. Two days later I was out that bitch. Yeah, yeah. He mentioned something I wanted to talk about because you have such a unique career. Yeah, you know, you were at Arkansas
Starting point is 00:49:49 You left school. Someone wrote a paper for you Someone the tutor the tutor Turned in a paper that was hers and put my name on it and did you get an A? I don't even think I got a grade. Okay, they were like, this isn't Pat Patsworth. Yeah, and they tried to put the gun case on me, right? And I'm like, nah, that ain't how it happened. Nor am I about to sit here and tell you neither. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Hold the fort down. I shut up, you know, lady, you be quiet. She goes, said, I took her laptop, I got a USB, I imported it, I took the paper off that, put it on the USB, put it on my laptop, I stopped the mid-sentence, hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, right. I'm from Chicago, I don't know how to do this.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Don't get her in trouble. I don't know how to do all this. Yeah, yeah. That's cool though, but I don't know how to do all this. Yeah. She's like walking them through a mission. Right, like, yeah, I don't know how to do all that, but I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Later on, she said that she did it by that time. It was too late. She should have just held the fort down. Yeah, so you- I've been in Arkansas, we'll pick. But it's crazy, because you left school and then you went and played in Ukraine and Russia. Second division Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:50:56 How old were you when you were at Ukraine? 1920. That's nuts. What was that like, just like being like, all right. So I leave practice every day, you know, it was no prudence for food or anything. So they had like a team like restaurant that, it might just been like an area restaurant
Starting point is 00:51:13 that they called the team restaurant. And there was a lady in the back like a movie, big ass pot of red borsh. Big stick. I don't know what's in that, my friend. Beats. I would hope so, but I don't know what's in that motherfucker. I'm in the Nepertas, Ukraine. Been rabid in that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:33 Anything. Every day, right? Every day. The owners come in, they come in with these tennis brackets. I go, oh man, they athletic guys. They know Pat the main tennis brackets. I, oh, okay, cool, okay, well, 8K47, say less, right? I'm in 2nd Division Ukraine, 21 hour train ride.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I'm talking about the wet trains. I'm talking about, it's so hot that the glass back here is fog. And I'm up, I got a bump guy up here and another bump high in there, like I'm doing 23 and 1. That's my Ukraine life. I'm thugging it out. I leave a big game, hit game winner. Take shower with a 70 year old who just got done playing racket.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that was Ukraine. That's wild. So, and I assume the answer is no, but was there ever a moment where you were like, fuck, this is not gonna work out? Yeah, that doesn't seem like a pat-pap thing. So, when you're playing in Ukraine and Russia,
Starting point is 00:52:26 and then you get the call from Daryl Mori being like, hey, we're gonna bring you to the Rockets. Like what was going through your head? So I go Ukraine, I go Ukraine, then I go Greece. I play on one of the best teams in Greece. Don't play at all. Like don't play at all. Championship game, I'm the youngest American
Starting point is 00:52:43 to ever start in the Euro League championship. Championship game, he starts me. Right, six story. Coach spoke very little English. Mind you, at the same time, Yiannis and the Nasus, they're younger, but they're on the smaller team. So they actually looking up like,
Starting point is 00:53:02 man, who is this black guy that's on, you know, on Greece? Yeah. You know? Layup line is my fucking game. I don't play at all. So the layup line is my game. I'm doing all crazy dunks whenever the coach grabbed me. Hey, lock in layups.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I mean, I go off, I lose my shit. First time I ever lost my shit on a coach. Fucking touching me, man. What the fuck I mean here? I'm waiting for my fucking family, man. This, this, this, this. I'm not fucking playing. He grabbed me.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Mind you, I got a team for the greats. I got Josh Shields, Lennis Claes. I got Vaughn fucking family man. This, this, this, this. I'm not fucking playing. He grabbed me. Imagine I got a team full of greats. I got Josh Shields, Linnus Clays, I got Vaan Wafer, Papaluca, European greats. He grabbed me. One day you go be better than everybody. English gets great like this. Right? I knew it since then.
Starting point is 00:53:36 So I go Ukraine, Greece, get drafted by the heat. Get cut by the heat. Russia. Got a, I refiled this team called Vladivostok. That shit's nine hours, it's near Japan. It's nine hours away from the current Dex nation, I mean, in St. Petersburg, Russia, right? We get the call before I take off to play Vladivostok. Do you wanna play Cleveland?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Do you wanna play for the Cleveland Cavaliers or you wanna play for Houston Rockets? Mom already moved to Houston, right? Jay Lans in Houston, Kyrie Irving in Cleveland. I don't think I could take Kyrie Irving's spot. This side of, you know, I can get Jay Lans shit though. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:18 I fuck it. Jay Lans, they make decisions on the way to Volleyville Stoke nine hours, five nine hours, back nine hours to St. Petersburg. Packed my stuff. The Russians, what they did to me with that contract was literally bent me over. Really?
Starting point is 00:54:33 Bent me over. I had a no clause, I couldn't get into the, I can go anywhere but I can't go to NBA. No NBA clause. So you had to pay them? Yeah, I had to pay them. Holy shit. So you bought yourself out?
Starting point is 00:54:43 I bought myself out. Not only did I have to pay them. Holy shit. You bought yourself out. I bought myself out. Not only did I have to pay them, had to pay like the GM of the team to go talk to you and had the conversation. Like, yeah, I talked to him, I need $50,000. My damn. All right, fuck you. It's you off.
Starting point is 00:54:56 You fucking shook you down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Russian way. And I respect it, because if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be here right now either. So I understand it. They asked for all their money back. They gave me, I don't know, almost $2 million. I was one of the highest paid Americans
Starting point is 00:55:09 in Europe at the time. Mind you, I ain't got MVPs. I done took a second division team to the top team. This is what they do to me, but it's part of the business. That's why I don't, what Daryl's doing, come on, I done dealt with the Russians, man. You understand what I'm saying? Like, there's light, light.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So yeah, they bit me over, put me in a hole about $3 million. Then I had to come back. Oh man, okay, cool. Oh man, okay, I'm in a hole about two mil. I'm cool now, because the NBA got the buyout. I go to NBA buyout, my buyout was like one four. NBA, the maximum they allowed to pay
Starting point is 00:55:41 was 400 or like 350 at the time. So I got come up with another meal. So I come to the NBA, I come to the NBA like 2 million, 2.7 in a row, in a dough. Holy shit. So what would have happened if you had just left? If you had said, fuck this, I'm gonna leave Russia. I know, but I mean, so it was a story one time.
Starting point is 00:55:57 A guy took some money from Russia, used to play basketball, he left. I'm a fast forward, this real story real fast. And now I'm gonna say the names. He plays in Russia doing, I don't know if it's lockout or the pass lockout or lockout before. He plays in Russia, gets the money, leaves, goes, gets,
Starting point is 00:56:15 knocked at the door, two Russian guys. That's the story I heard. Don't know if it's true to it. Every since then, I don't like to fuck with the Russians. Yeah, but great grocery stores though. Yeah, good prices on groceries. E-League, E-League. And every woman wears heels too.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Wait, who is that guy? Maurice Evans. Okay. Damn. Ballheader used to play for Atlanta Hawks. So I was reading some of your career achievements here. It said that you were a two-time Russian League All-Symbolic first team.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yeah. What does that mean? What does All-Symbolic first team. What does that mean? What's All-Symbolic? I don't know, I'm thinking it's just all first team. I hope it's all first team. All-Symbolic first team. But that's so... Maybe it's the guys that's not Russian, the other guys. Yeah, but the whole story is incredible.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I would imagine it has a lot to do with why you are so loved in the NBA and your teammates everywhere you go because you probably just don't take anything for granted. You've been through it all. Oh, seeing Jay Lin. It's easy. Seeing Jay Lin. I went to Houston, seeing Jay Lin.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Before I play a game, they sent me down to the G League. Hey, Nick Nurse, long time no see, right? Get called back up. I literally pick up Jay Lin. When he walked on the practice court, I picked him up for defense every single day That had to suck for him Every single day I fuck where he's coming out of the locker room and you're and you're just in your stance, right? Because I'm you gotta think this my life. I'm in a hole. Yeah. Yeah, you understand I'm saying it ain't even like about basketball man
Starting point is 00:57:42 I got to get the fuck out this hole. Man, I signed a deal with Daryl Mora, gives me a three year, $1.2 million deal, a three year, $1.2 million deal. That's the total. That's the total. Not each year. And each year is non-guaranteed, which means, oh man, at this time I'm young, I tear my nitskis,
Starting point is 00:58:00 oh, not guaranteed, I'm in a hole, three million. So when Daryl trades me, it's come on man. Yeah, you know, history there. It's already know the fuck going on. Yeah, sign me to a three year 1.2. Right. Right. Is that why I'm guaranteed? Is that why you competed so hard of the skills challenge? I need I need every dollar. Everything. Yeah, everything. So yeah, I mean, my mindset was different going in it's it's also a Testament to like your love for basketball. I saw you said I think on your podcast that what 50% of the NBA or guys that don't love Basketball love it now. I assume that's all big guys or a lot of it is big guys Cuz I always just assume any big guy any seven footers like well
Starting point is 00:58:40 I have to play basketball because I'm seven feet, but this fucking sucks So let's raise that number to 70 Yeah, 70% of the big cuz is that right like big guys like I mean it just sucks being seven feet and then you yeah Yeah, it's like it's forced upon you. Yeah, right. Oh, I guess I gotta play basketball or the guy who you see at the club Just like a bro. What the fuck you doing here, bro? You supposed to be hoopin If you're above six like 10, 10, you didn't play basketball. I'm wrong. Your life sucks.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Because everyone's like, where'd you play ball? Like, nowhere. Tore some shit? No, bro, I just tall. I just love selling insurance. Right. So what's the difference? Like, when you're saying like someone who loves basketball
Starting point is 00:59:19 versus doesn't, but they're in the NBA, it's just how can you tell that it's like not a love, but they're in the NBA. They're incredible at basketball. Like, so I get on the bench and I'll say some shit like, okay, cool, I told B's yesterday, the Bulls, what they like to take away, he the paint, obviously, every team like to take away
Starting point is 00:59:37 the paint, but what are the Bulls like taking away? I don't know, I cornered threes, right? So why are you putting yourself in a corner? Right. Be the guy who wants to get the shot, you're literally in cornered threes, right? So why are you putting yourself in a corner? Right. Right, be the guy who wants to get the shot. You're literally in a three point contest, right? Everybody on the bench look like, damn, you right? Even the coaches behind me look like, damn, you right?
Starting point is 00:59:55 People don't think that deep into the game. Right. I see something that's not working. I don't like this lineup, coach. Like we need more rim protection. You gotta go taller with this lineup, especially in the second unit. We gotta fix that, you know what I'm saying? Some coaches don't see this lineup coach. Like we need more rim protection. You gotta go taller with this lineup, especially in the second unit. We gotta fix that.
Starting point is 01:00:06 You know what I'm saying? Some coaches don't see it. Hey Doc, what's the play we ran two games ago, man? That should work right here. I just got a different feel about it. But I'm the same kid who, in those Houston days, I find out in the playoffs that I'm starting, I pull a car over, I call mom, we cry.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Like I'm a starting point guard in NBA. You know, these got to think. This is my first year ever coming off the bench. A decade starter on every team I've been on. Come to the Bulls, Billy Donovan, yeah, I don't know how I'ma play you. I mean, the best guy I know where I love, Billy. I don't know how I'ma play you.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I don't know what your role would be after the first practice. Yeah, I'ma start you tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? So like, so, so for me, the appreciation of the basketball is much different than a lot of people. Yeah, I would say so. I mean, the story of from college to overseas to getting cut going back overseas back to Houston. And then when you get that first contract, I would imagine that that was probably a pretty emotional moment for you.
Starting point is 01:01:06 When you get some serious long-term financial stability. Were you expecting that? Like was that something that you knew was in the works and when it happened? Was there like a moment where you're like, fuck, this is awesome? No, I really thought I took a pay cut. I really thought they kinda got me on the steal,
Starting point is 01:01:23 but I'm in a position, again, I'm working with Darren Warren. I'm in a position where I really can't argue. You know? I don't really know the ins and outs of everything. I know they offer me $24 million, all guaranteed. I'll take it now. Yeah, signed right now. Expeditiously, please.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I mean, if you don't have- Got some Russians to owe. Straight up, I gotta pay these folks back. They owe my ass. That's like the Plutter Training Day. Like that fucking cello. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:50 And then if you don't have pen, like you have anything sharp so I can cut my finger and sign it in blue. I don't want now. How did... The first paycheck, was that direct deposit? So I did some wild shit. My first check was like, I wanted like half a million dollars up front. Uh huh, advance, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:07 In July, it was my birthday, July 12th. So yeah, July first hit, that motherfucker hit that out there. Call my mom, you see that shit? I just did a pushup, right? Like, yeah, hell yeah. So I got that, I was able to take care of my mom, get a nice crib, but you know, in NBA, if you're not financially, literally,
Starting point is 01:02:29 like, you know, how your mind said, right, I went through that shit. Yeah, a lot of guys, yeah, all sports. First paycheck, what, $6 million a year? Oh, it's hard. All right, so I had fun, but my big one, I signed the 40 ball, then turned around, signed the 13 million, and yeah, I've been doing well.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Have you had coaches that are like, hey, Pat, just chill out when you're trying to tell them like what you were just saying, like, hey, our second team is too short, or, you know, we gotta do this different, are there any coaches? Men docking the beginning. Relax, really? Men docking the beginning. Really? Right.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But then, over the time, he seemed like my commitment to the game, my love for the game, I want to always be a student of the game, always ask some questions. Now he gets me now. Yeah. Now it's like, oh yeah. An extra coach on the floor.
Starting point is 01:03:17 That pat, yeah, I do a thing. We have to build a certain level of trust with you. Where it's like, if he's saying this, he's probably right. So let him say it. Right, so like, I and say this shit like, did you just shut the fuck up? I say some shit like, how long you've been waiting to get that off your chest? Right? You know what I'm saying? But now
Starting point is 01:03:35 is he literally take the room. Right. I'm saying so like it's just, you know, he, he at first when you're around me, my approach and the way I talk, it seems like who's this fucking asshole? Then once you see it consistently, you see it every day and it's like damn, that's really impressive now. Because you've been on so many teams and you've been traded a bunch and around everywhere.
Starting point is 01:03:55 There's been so many teams, my goodness. You have been on a lot of teams, but what I'm gonna say is a compliment, to be a teammate that everyone loves almost instantly, how do you do that? Because you walk into a locker room, it's a bunch of guys that have been together for a How do you do that? Like, cause you know, you walk into a locker room, it's a bunch of guys that have been together for a while and you're the new guy, but it seems like everywhere,
Starting point is 01:04:10 I mean, I saw it last year with the Bulls, it's like instant, Pat Biff is the culture. So what you see on TV, right? And this is prior, prior to me having podcasts, right? So you have to take what you see on TV TV inform your opinion about Pat Biff, right? Because I have no other outlets why I'm giving people I'm not I'm on Instagram, but I'm I'm not on Instagram Like I'm not doing my every day. I'm posting some little cool shit Maybe a flight a jet, you know, whatever bullshit, you know people post
Starting point is 01:04:39 but Once you get me there, obviously see see, but now I have my podcast, everyone sees a whole different perspective. It's like they look at me and say, man, I didn't know you can be smart. Talk, have a vocabulary, get my point across without cursing or saying it inward or being disrespectful. Like a good human.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yeah, I opened the door for everyone. Please and thank you everywhere. But you didn't know I was a, you know. No, I can say that personally. Like, you know, we've known each other now for a year since you come to Barstow. Actually, what, it's two years now? No, year and a half.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Like, you can tell right away when you're with a professional athlete, it's, you can almost tell instantly. Like this guy, obviously he's thinking himself on a different level and he's like kind of removed himself from the regular people. I mean, never got that vibe from you. You are as much of a culture to bar stool as you are to your NBA team.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And it's like that, it's just instant where you're like, Pep, Pep's just a real dude. Yeah, and that's the approach I come. So like, I'm in the locker room, you know, I go through a shoot around around a guy might miss a assignment I go coach that shit was wrong He what I'll rep it again. That shit was wrong. Don't feel right. Rep it again Like you don't want to you don't want to be great. We all out here. It's a competitive sport like let's be great
Starting point is 01:05:59 We do some shit wrong. Let's wrap that shit again till we do it right, right, you know And then the coaches see that they see it for a week. They see it for two weeks They see it coaches see that. They see it for a week. They see it for two weeks. They see it for a month. They see it for two months. They see it for four months. I got coaches on the 76ers who go to me who was like, man, I didn't know shit about you, but man, literally the best I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Like you do this every day, every day. I don't drag in the practice. I take care of my body. I got my training staff. It's me on the court and Tyrese Maxie. Right. I don't drag into practice, I take care of my body. I got my training staff. It's me on the court and Tyrese Maxie. Right. Like the 35 year old and the future.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah. So like, yeah, I don't miss days. I don't cheat the games, which is probably why I've been so successful. Yeah. I think it's because you care too. Like it's obvious that you don't... Same thing with your podcast and when you do... If you walk into a new locker room, it's obvious that you don't, same thing with your podcast. And when you do, you know, if you walk into a new locker room,
Starting point is 01:06:45 it's obvious that you care about what you're doing. You see the fireiness on the court, but there's a lot of care that goes into it behind the scenes where it's like you're doing all these small things, correct? And no matter what organization, where somebody sees something like that, and you're like, I want to be on that guy's side, because that guy is going to bring the best out of me. You got to think like, so I leave these organizations and they get like, you got to think I leave the rockers, they got Chris Paul.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Yeah. Right? Traffic cone. I leave these organizations and they get like you gotta think I leave the Rockers. They Chris Paul. Yeah, right traffic cone I leave right I leave I leave I leave I leave the Clippers When I go Clippers to what the fuck I got the Clippers Minnesota Clippers Minnesota, right? I think so fucking got Rudy go burn. Yeah You know I'm saying? Out the Minnesota trade. So like, not only are these teams,
Starting point is 01:07:28 like they know my value because they're trading other assets according to my value. Right. You know what I'm saying? But I don't get the money. Campaign is an awesome player. Yeah, but the 14 year old guy, he's gonna be the best.
Starting point is 01:07:39 He's gonna be the lead. He could be the best. He could be the best. I'm gonna put a bet on whoever that guy is to win MVP at some point in his future. Once they're trapped. You might be coaching him. Imagine. Imagine. Holy shit. I'm gonna put a bet on whoever that guy is to win MVP at some point Oh, yeah, I'm gonna look up that I'm gonna look up the year that picked. Yeah, you asked us before we sat down To ask you some hard questions. Yeah, so here's a good question. We've talked about a lot of the job and y'all been What would happen me on the next one? What happened?
Starting point is 01:08:00 What happened what happened in the tunnels what happened in the tunnels? tunnels Clippers Blake Griffin. Yeah. Oh yeah. Make sure it kind by the way. Should I say anything bad about Blake? The podcast is over. So tell us like who was going in these tunnels to like.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah you're thinking about it now. Who was sneaking up on people were you guys ready for them how'd that go? So we in locker room. Fuck. It was the rocket game right? Yeah. Yeah. And good friend of mine, great friend of mine, Trevor Reza. I think Austin was saying something to Trevor.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And I think Trevor was like something little rivers, right, and got him agitated. I think he said something. I think, Trevor T.A. was the first by the door, I go to T.A. like, I stand, you know, me, I'm stand, I'm the first, and no, it's, and these are all my guys I used to play with literally,
Starting point is 01:08:59 six months ago. So I go, no man, come on man, we ain't about to do this right here, you know, but it was just arguing, you know, Blake came and Deandre came, but I was the first there though. And my locker was across. So Blake was the one who basically- He was the second one there. Yeah, but everyone saw Blake and they're like, oh we don't want any smoke.
Starting point is 01:09:16 That's how we're gonna say it. Yeah, I'll say less. Yeah, yeah, okay, alright, that's perfect. What about- But no, no fight, no none of that. It's good to hear. Yeah, it sounded like there was a Game of Thrones battle that took place.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Hell no, that's what we didn't even get. And then it got to a point where security's hopped in front, right? One security is pulling the door, the other guy's security on the back of it like this, like, come on, y'all don't have to do it like this. Okay, so another tough question, where is the beef with Chris Paul right now?
Starting point is 01:09:42 And you see him, is there any, do you guys even talk? No. Yeah, nothing. No. Nothing said. No. So it's just, just you stay over there, I stay over here. Yeah, when we see each other, it's on from outside.
Starting point is 01:09:55 That's what I think. Yeah. But I think like that about everybody, but him for sure. Did he have anyone reach out to you after you went on like, was it, you went on first take, or no, was it get up and you were calling them a traffic cone? Yeah, I just, You went on a tour that week
Starting point is 01:10:11 and just fucking ripped everyone, it was awesome. Yeah, but it wasn't, I wasn't talking about basketball. Yeah. You know, we were talking about basketball. And I, you know, I was just like, I don't know. The guy who beat him for the Bulls. What's the guy, the new guy that got the shooter? Beat him, B-I-T-M.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you gotta think, I'm also the same guy. I'm also the same guy when Coach writes up on the board, writes up on the board, he's a cone coach, put cone right next to his name. So now when guys see it, instead of trying to,
Starting point is 01:10:48 you know, all NBA guys don't love it. So if they don't love it, then their mind isn't as sharp and isn't as smarter than this. Yeah, they're mad, they're playing mad. Okay, so now you see a guy who you put a red mark to who can't shoot free throws. When he gets the ball down low, you foul him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Okay, cool, I seen red. Red means can't shoot free throws. he gets the ball down low you foul. Yeah, okay cool I seen red red means can't shoot free throws. All right coach. Fuck that red you see green green means he can't shoot I mean, okay cool. I might fucking shoot you put cone. Oh, he can't guard. So now when I see him everybody attack him Yeah, so it's like a game plan. Yeah, so I was that's all I was that was the cone thing That was the game plan. Okay, so so if you're in an opposing locker room, what's next to Pat Bev's name? I don't know. Is it Let Him Shoot?
Starting point is 01:11:28 Let him shoot. Let him shoot. Yeah. Go ahead, he'll miss him. Yeah, let him shoot. Maybe put the center on him, right? But I know that. Yeah, put the center drop coverage, no problem.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah, cool. Send him to his left hand. But yeah, let him shoot. He can't shoot. But not a cone. Fuck not a cone. That was not a cone. Fuck not a cone. That was not a cone. No, that was a traffic stop.
Starting point is 01:11:48 But they probably hit me with the, let them shoot, but close out in corners. So shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cause they like to keep the exact stats. Yeah, yeah. What about the beef with Russ? Where's that at?
Starting point is 01:12:03 Do you trick us? Pep-Pep trick y'all? Are we tricked? I mean, I've done it. I got three awards. Yeah. And what'd you call him? You said he's the magician.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah, that was funny that time. So look, so man, you know what? Russ, out the bin on the same thing with Russ, I'm time out. Russ breaks hang yesterday, six storey. Russ breaks hang yesterday, six story. Russ breaks hang yesterday. I text Russ, 1.21 in the morning.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Hi, Dan, what's up? You running away from me? You ducking me? You gonna break your hand? We know, we play y'all next. You know we play y'all next. Yeah, what's up? Seems like he's ducking you.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Come on, man, get your fucking hand fixed, that's raw. Don't break your hand. Right, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what the fuck, right? Here you spying back, like, you. Come on, man. Get your fucking hand fixed. That's raw. Don't break your hand. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what the fuck went right. Here you're smiling back like, man, fuck you, man. Hell no. Thanks, gang. So it's always love.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Shout out to Russ. Yeah. All right. What about LeBron as a teammate? Great. Yeah? He was great. Is there any truth to it's a little difficult to beat LeBron's teammate, not on the court,
Starting point is 01:13:02 because obviously he's one of the best basketball players of all time. He's probably the second best basketball player of all time. But is there anything to be said for when you're on LeBron's team, if you lose, it's all his teammates. If you win, it's LeBron. That's the air above it all. Yeah. But, no, I just think that that team, we was on man. We coulda won a ton of games.
Starting point is 01:13:28 We played it wrong. We just played it wrong. And it happens, it happens. Coulda woulda shoulda been in teams. You can't, we shoulda won a championship with the White How and James Harden. Yeah, Yolkich kinda carved you guys up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:13:41 We played it wrong. We played it wrong, we played it wrong. We played it completely wrong. So, we just played that team wrong, that's all. We played it wrong. We played it wrong. We played it completely wrong. So we just played that team wrong. That's all. We had guys that was on the bench that should have been starting,
Starting point is 01:13:49 guys that were starting and shipping on the bench. You know, like, it just wasn't right. But, you know, as a coach, you live and you learn, and as players, you live and you learn too. Yeah, he was phenomenal. But you gotta think, I know LeBron since I'm with Miami Heat. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:01 You know, like I get a call from Bron Guy like, man, listen, man, I think you my train at the time to the airport on the way back, I call, I call Brian. I'm like, hey man, this Pat Baird, I'm taking my train at the time to the airport on the way back, I call Brian. I'm like, hey man, this Pat Baird, I'm taking my train at the time to the airport
Starting point is 01:14:24 on the way back. I call I call Brian. I'm like Hey, man, this Pat Baird man. I'm reaching out Shout out to Ramos is his one is Shut the fourth the four horseman one is guys Ramos older guy We kind of put it all together game. It's number he a brahman I Got your number from Ramos We'll kind of put it all together, game is number. He a bra man. I got your number from Ramos. Whatever you have for me, bro, I want to be a better person,
Starting point is 01:14:52 a better man, a better athlete, like everything, everything. Like I want to go on your wing. I want you to show me the way, bro. Every single day of every minute of the day, I was with LeBron James. He showed me the blue front. That's sick. What, all right, so. He showed me the blue front. It's sick. What, all right, so.
Starting point is 01:15:06 He showed me how to do everything the right way. We went out together. He showed me how to, okay, cool. Be different. That was his whole thing with me. Be different. Guy sit on the back of the bus. You don't have to sit on the back of the bus, right?
Starting point is 01:15:18 Be different. Young guys, they wanna laugh and goof around. Be serious. Be serious about your crap. Yeah. All that foundation he gave me with the Miami Heat is probably where I'm sustainable now. We're gonna get back to more Pat Bevin a second.
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Starting point is 01:17:08 that PFT and I have. Okay. LeBron's actually not that special because we kind of called it. Like we said that he was gonna be incredible. He just kind of lived up to his expectations. Damn, that's a go. Yeah, I mean, really every time LeBron scores a point,
Starting point is 01:17:25 we said, yeah. It's like, that's a check mark in the column of the media. Yeah, he was the chosen one. He was on his high school games or on ESPN. He nailed it. He was on cover sports illustrated. Like, he didn't do anything that we didn't, we predicted it. Man, the homies, to say, we, he's been playing high-level basketball
Starting point is 01:17:41 at this level since he was a sophomore and a high-level. It's nuts. It's nuts. It is nuts. It is crazy. The longevity is. And people still don't like, you gonna appreciate him when he's gone. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:52 No, I mean, I've never, yeah, I mean, watching him play basketball is insane. He's windmillin' Duncan opposite hand. Fuck, it's 40 years old. Yeah, that's crazy. He's 39, because we're the same age. So don't do that. So Hank tries to do that to us. He calls us 40, we're not 40 age. So don't do that. So Hank tries to do that test.
Starting point is 01:18:05 He calls us 40. We're not 40 yet. Oh, he calls you and him 40. Hank calls us 40. We know that. Us and you and LeBron. I think LeBron is a month older than us. Got it, got it, got it.
Starting point is 01:18:14 We're basically contemporaries. They last. Yeah. But always, anytime he accomplishes something, I'm like, I still got time left, because he's only a month older than I am. So I'll make up for that. Kick it into gear.
Starting point is 01:18:23 He's great. And that's it. Yeah. Okay, that's fair. But we did say he was gonna be great. Yeah, we did. Conn and credit to us too. Yeah, true. So he's the unquestioned leader of that team,
Starting point is 01:18:35 but you also, you're not afraid to have your voice be heard. You're not afraid to point things out. Was there ever a situation where it's like, okay, you're taking up a big leadership role in Los Angeles and then it's LeBron's team and you guys have to sort out like, hey, Pat Bev, let me handle this, you handle that. No. Anything like that?
Starting point is 01:18:56 You know, he's too bad. He ain't really, he really like, his leaders should come with the way he takes care of his body and how he plays. I'm a lead by actions. I ain't got time for all that shit. I'ma go in here, you feel me? I'ma, if my team need to be talked to,
Starting point is 01:19:14 I'ma be the first motherfucker to say something. I'ma be the first motherfucker in the gym. I'ma be the last motherfucker in the gym. And I'ma produce every single night on the fucking basketball court to a point where it's like, damn! I'ma dunk on you, I'ma hit your clutchutch treat those. I'm gonna always make the right play. I'm gonna do everything right Yeah, so there was a play that you had this year that was maybe maybe my favorite play recently
Starting point is 01:19:37 Okay, and the NBA the game ends and you sprint to the locker room and grab your phone and immediately send a tweet I thought you like you like every game every game, but that's and immediately send a tweet. I thought, you like ran. Every game. Every game, but then. No, to ask. What was that? It was last week, right? Which one? The buzzer sounds and you ran to the locker room
Starting point is 01:19:52 and you fired off a tweet within like, I wanna say a minute, 30 seconds. No, no, no, no. You have to understand. I have the tweet wrote depending on how high of time it is. Okay. Oh, you draft it? Yeah, I'm just chilling.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Like, okay, cool. Just looking like this. Cause I of time it is. Okay. Oh, you draft it? Yeah, I'm just chilling. Like, okay, cool. Just looking like this. Cause I really want to literally, I want the fans to see, damn, the game just ended. How the fuck, you know, like, I want them to have that reaction. Yeah. Man, that shit is fired up.
Starting point is 01:20:17 So what do you write at halftime? Like, let's say you're losing five points. What do you do? No, belt ass is always up. Okay. Always up. It's either if I should add, oh came up short or, okay yeah, fuck y'all, belt to ass.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Yeah, so yeah, my shit, I'm locked in. I love that. How did you start with the belt to ass world tour? I don't know. I think it was, I think we had the crib one day. What was it? Yeah, the pod. Yup, that's exactly what it was.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Yup, we was doing the pod shout out to the Pat Bill pod, my man Ron. And we just kept saying, we just kept saying like, belt to ass, belt to ass. And it became like a thing. And I'm like, cool. I like Barstool, love Barstool. Let's see if we could do the merch.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Merch came out to be cool. Boom, people love it. Mom hits me like, fuck that, put tour dates on them. Real rockstar shit, okay love it. See her yesterday at the Bulls game, she got on belt to ask T-shirt, right? She's on tour with me. We making it a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:21:21 We making, okay, we got our band members. We made it okay, he's our leading singer. He's, you know, at the point we was telling about Joel. He's David Ruffin. He doesn't have to come to practice all the time. He doesn't have to come to record. You know, no, he's David Ruffin. So we just kind of played on with that shit.
Starting point is 01:21:35 The next thing you know, everybody's saying, I mean, I go, every arena, I go, built it. It's crazy. It's awesome. But I thank you guys though. You gotta understand like, none of this is happening unless Barstew gives me a platform.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Yeah. Obviously I had to mature in that role. Like, I don't know, it didn't take that long, but it took, I don't know, two, three months for me to kind of like, okay, cool. This is the fuck going on. Let me embrace it. But if it wasn't for Barstew,
Starting point is 01:22:03 you gotta think, if it wasn't for Barstew, a lot of people wouldn't even see this perspective of an NBA player. Like, what we give into the NBA, it's like, literally gold. Literally gold. It is, every clip I see is just- Literally gold. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:22:16 I think a lot of players, they think to themselves, like, I wanna do a podcast, do a podcast sounds fun. No. But once they start doing it, they're like, oh shit, this is hard work. Ran out of storage. But you like, it's clear that you love doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I have endless stories. And I'm great at telling them. Yeah. You know, I've been through so much shit. You gotta think like I go from, you know, selling nickels and dimes on the block to burying my cousin to, you know, talking to my girlfriend about meetings with billionaires.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Right. You know, so like my spectrum is, it isn't like this. talking to my girlfriend about meetings with billionaires. Right. Pretty crazy. My spectrum is, it isn't like this, my shit's from like this to this. It's the whole fucking world. So I could talk about a home again, shot 14 times. Coming up to a lady, coming up to a lady door,
Starting point is 01:22:57 asking for help. Please lady, please help me, help me, help me. Lady sees him pass out. Right, damn, I don't know if I'm gonna die now. And I can, I know how it is as a baby. How do you, what's that caviar I like? You know, why I'm in the bees on a boat. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:11 So like my shit is different. I understand what, you know, baby mama's is. You know, I understand what being an ultimate father is too. You know, so I've seen everything, right? I've seen everything and I still got so much more to see. That's why the stories are really endless, endless. Well, so I think a lot of the success of the pod, and you just alluded to it, was maybe the first few months
Starting point is 01:23:32 trying to feel it out, but you're, you embracing bar stool is a big part of it. Because I think we've tried it with other athletes, other people from outside the bar stool world. And it sometimes doesn't work because the guy doesn't buy in or the woman doesn't buy in all the way You've bought in all the way. So I got a question about that the 41 free throws So for anyone who didn't see it, I think everyone did but we had to shoot
Starting point is 01:23:55 We had to make 41 free throws in a row. We weren't gonna leave the gym till we finished it took us 16 hours Pat Bev showed up after a game drove from Milwaukee to Chicago after a game He showed up at like two in the morning. What was going through your mind when you saw the scene of us just standing around like dejected, trying to shoot free throws? We like these guys are fucking stupid and they're crazy and what the hell is going on?
Starting point is 01:24:19 I didn't think about that at all. I thought it was genius. I also thought like, damn man, like that last shit they got us fired. Fiddling this game out. I think you text. Yeah, I was texting because you were like, I was like, listen, I didn't want to be pushy.
Starting point is 01:24:33 I was like, we're gonna still be going at midnight when the game's over. So you gotta, so right, so I'm currently reading a book as the tool of Titans, right? And it's the way the book is formatted. You don't have to read it in a specific way. You can flip page, whatever page you land on, you can start reading it.
Starting point is 01:24:53 I first page, I flip, it says, greatness equals the ability to fall in love with the work. I like that. Right, yeah. That's all greatness is. Not only going to work like, man, I gotta go to work, like, come on, shit, let me go to work. I like that. Right? Yeah. That's all greatness is. Not only going to work like, man, I gotta go to work like, come on, let me go to work.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Like actually loving your job. Yeah. And the person that gave me the book was like, you're gonna see some shit in this book about you that you already do, right? So when it comes to job basketball, first year, last year, I watch film, every fucking game, I watch film with practice. Now when I have another job, when. First there, last of the week, I watch film, every fucking game, I watch film with practice.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Now when I have another job, when it comes to bar stools, you know, this is my job. I'm a fall in love with this shit. I'm a comment New York and I'm a bring pieces and people might think that all he's trying to get, no I'm not, I'm just a great fucking worker. I love my job. These people took a chance on me,
Starting point is 01:25:41 nobody had ever seen me, these people gave me a platform when no one else wanted to give it to me. When they tried to shut me up, call me dumb, call me silly, try to paint the niggle roll right on top of my head, straight up. So no, I'm gonna be a great worker. I'm gonna be here. My squad needs me, straight up.
Starting point is 01:25:56 My boss man is actually texting me. I'm a smart individual with the fuck he never texts me. Just because he texts me, I'm on my way. Yeah, great fucking workers. It was awesome. The vibes change everything. Now the other question I have about it is, did you think we were ever gonna get out of that gym?
Starting point is 01:26:10 No. It's when you left. I felt bad, bro. When you left, and I think everybody in the gym understood that you had to go, you have very important. They were back to back. Babe was hot. You had to back to back.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Babe was hiding. He was hiding. But I don't want to. But the swing, the momentum swing that we had when you left and we still haven't done it and we're like, wait, we still haven't done it and an NBA player just had to leave. We're never going to have another meal again. We're just going to die in this gym. Listen, you have to understand.
Starting point is 01:26:38 We leave, go to sleep. I got my producers with me. I wake up four-30 in the morning. Did they do it? He watching it, he. No, not yet. Oh, it got dark when you left. It got real bad.
Starting point is 01:26:54 You know what I'm saying? Then I wake up, okay, cool. They do the heat. They did it, they did it. Like, you know what I'm saying? So like, as a worker, being part of it, being part of the crew, hell yeah, we fucking did that shit.
Starting point is 01:27:04 You're on the shirt. Yeah. I'm at the end, Hell. Yeah, we fucking did that. You're on the shirt Yeah, yeah, I met the end, but I'm on a shirt. Yeah, you're here on the shirt I know there was we have some here But there yeah, there was a moment where I left at seven in the morning go take my son to see I didn't see that Heard about that. Yeah, so I went take my I was like I'll be back in 35 minutes Got to take him to school and I was driving my son to school and I was talking to him like I was going to war. I was like, I love you so much. I don't know when we're gonna be able to see each other again.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Like I thought I was gonna just never see him again. And he was like, what are you talking about? I'm just going to school. And then we got back and we did it and it was the best moment ever. Y'all did that shit. It was fucking incredible. So I didn't see, I actually, I seen,
Starting point is 01:27:42 cause y'all switched up the way of shooting. Cause I tell him, I'm like, man, Kat, I think you might have to shoot some more. Yeah. So when did the Mulligan, when did you guys do Mulligan? So we had two things happen. One was we got a kid from, not a kid,
Starting point is 01:27:58 he's a grown man. What's his name? Scott Morris, he played at University of New Hampshire. For sure it can shoot. Yeah, 100%. He shot 14 free throws in his entire college career. So he shows up and we're like, uh-oh. He's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I shot 14 free throws because my coach was like, you can't dribble, you can't do anything, you can shoot. So he just stood out on the three point line and just hit shots. He was incredible. So he came came that was huge. He was just hitting everything. I think he missed like one free throw out of like 200. He was insane. Damn. So he came. I went to take my son to school. We used the Muldon 15. Dave hit 30. I showed up from taking my son to school and it was it was me. It was
Starting point is 01:28:40 3940 and I was like God fucking damn it. Like this is going to I'm going to ruin this like everyone's going to want to kill me. No, I didn't worry about you. And then I hit 3940 and I was like god fucking damn it like this is gonna I'm gonna ruin this like everyone's gonna want to kill me No, I didn't worry about you and I hit 3940 then Dave hit 41 and it was okay to Mulligan's fit okay Yeah, and that guy it's got more like he was he was so good and he saved our lives like he Fucked without that's fine Yeah, I was never worried about you because I said when I was shooting on like cat mind You might you might guys shoot some more bro, but it, my legs, I think I took like 1600 free throws. How did you feel afterwards?
Starting point is 01:29:08 So the problem was I had a trip to Cabo Wednesday. Yeah, you told me, right, right, right, right. I was like, this is gonna be the worst divorce of all time, having to write like, why did you get divorced? You know, I had to finish 41 free throws and I couldn't go to Cabo. Oh my goodness. I got to Cabo and I went to bed for like eight more hours. Like literally showed up and I was just went right to
Starting point is 01:29:27 bed. I was fucking dead. But yeah worth it. I felt so bad for Titus at the end of it because Titus he was in the role of no matter what we need from Titus he'll step up and hit him. Yeah and so the expectation was he would make ten in a row every single time. He's a good foul shooter right? I think he ended up shooting like 93% literally the better the best that that percentage would be better everybody in the game. Dude, he went with the other day we were just fucking around and he's like, let me see if I can hit 41 in a row. No problem. You have 41 in a row. But after 16 hours, 16 hours of doing it and your eyes start to go, your brain starts to go,
Starting point is 01:29:59 and now we're just like, oh, Titus is up. He's good. Don't worry about it. And then, you know, he'll make nine out of 10 and everybody will be super disappointed. And we're like, what the fuck, Titus? Yeah, beef squash with Titus. Right? You have respect for him now. I said, I'm looking. Motherfucker got the free throw line on.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Titus, I look. Everybody else jerries, it makes you nut. How does that motherfucker right there, huh? I'll say them. You gotta understand from our perspective, because this is Barstool, we're all a bunch of out of shape, middle aged, bloggers, podcasters. When we get one athlete in the building,
Starting point is 01:30:32 we talk them up, we're like, we got Mark Titus. Yeah, I can tell you. And then if you're that athlete, you carry it on you. Yeah, I'm fucking Mark Titus, watch out. Right, right. The Pat Bale walks in, like, I'm not Mark Titus. Because we play fives on on on Friday Yeah, we play five on Friday afternoon
Starting point is 01:30:48 He'll play with us and he'll just like go like half speed and just hit threes in everyone's face being like you guys suck Yeah, fuck you guys. I told you I was on my Pat Bev stuff. I'm guard Mark Titus. I was telling your producer I was yelling out his deep what his defensive assignment was my Pat Bev stuff I was like let him shoot. Let him shoot. But uh alright so alright I got a couple other hard questions. Come on go on waiting on it let's go. Kevin Durant. Katie. Is he online too much? No. Okay. I like it. We've gone the whole spectrum from Katie. We we we've had some moments where
Starting point is 01:31:20 we've maybe said some things but I've come back to respect him just because I actually appreciate that he's online as much as he is. He mixes it up with people. I don't like when people don't get in the weeds and don't mix it up and don't reply to people. That means that you're out of touch and you don't want to like, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:35 get down there with people. What, he's an interesting guy though. Have you, like, are you friends with him or you? So you got me and Katie, we first are playing, I think he was at the University of Texas and I was at Arkansas. Obviously a huge rival, that rivalry that I don't know about. And that's what we first, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:52 we first, we first started playing from there. Yeah, yeah. And he's, I mean, he's one of the best all time. I like the fact that he is online though. I think that every, it's a good healthy outlet because people are talking about him. Especially him too. Day in, day out.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Right, especially him too. Right, like, easy sniper, like sick fucking name. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck that, I'll go go to this team when championship, oh fuck that, I'll leave here, go to it. Like, you know what I'm saying? The dark horse, but you need him.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Yeah. Everyone in the league is afraid of him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh man, KD, like yeah. You know, I sell the highest shoes. Yeah, I'm 6'11, I'm gonna go get your ass buckets anytime there's nothing you can do, right?
Starting point is 01:32:31 I'm a killer, everyone in the league knows it. Yeah. You said everyone in the league is afraid of them. Are you afraid of them? No, uh-uh. When I mean afraid of the like, okay, cool, man. I got KD tomorrow, let me go ahead and get my rest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:44 You're not afraid of anybody. Yeah, but if I got KD, go ahead and get my rest. Yeah, you're not afraid of anybody. Yeah, but if I got Katie, I'm gonna get my rest. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I ain't go, have a good time. What about Luca? Are you afraid of Luca? No, I'm gonna get my rest though.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yeah. I'm gonna get my rest. Oh, do you think that the NBA is a little too much like, the league has changed a lot. Obviously offense is insane right now. But is there times when it bothers you when like team basketball is a little bit, it's not in the league as much as it used to be.
Starting point is 01:33:08 It's a lot of one-on-one, like Luca will have the ball for an insane amount of time. Some of these guys will just basically feel like they're playing one-on-one and there's four guys just standing around ready to shoot three. Yeah, I don't think, like, student of the game, I don't think that's the issue, right? The issue is the fans, right?
Starting point is 01:33:31 Obviously I'm online all the time, you know? Yeah man, Luke, I'm gonna get you 50. Obviously, he shot the ball 30 times, he has the ball literally, every fucking possession of the game. I gotta share my possessions, I got eight fucking attempts every fucking game. And that's on a great day. So my fuck got unlimited attempts.
Starting point is 01:33:49 You should give me 50. My fuck got the ball all the time. That's when you get kinda like, you know, with the fans. But as a basketball player, you also know that, okay, cool. Luca has a ball all the time because this team needs him to have the ball all the time. They made the team so he can't have the ball all the time. So, you know, I'm convinced, you know, half and half.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Is it hard though, being a teammate, like on a team like that, like your teammates with James Harden, when a guy has the ball all the time, is it harder to get into a rhythm, is it harder to get into a rhythm when the ball's not being spread around? Hell no. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Like, so we create this thing called guard to guard screens. I'm a student of the game. I know, okay, cool. If I'm about to play a team, I'm gonna put, if I'm a coach. I'm gonna put my weaker defender on who Patrick Beverly All right, cool. All right, hey James. Let's do this I'm gonna come set a screen for you and I'm just either I'm a roll. I'm literally gonna be the center Right, I'm a roll. I'm a pop for three and I found ways to get me the ball They don't want to switch that now they double-tane it. I'm in the park. I get to shoot my floater
Starting point is 01:34:44 Okay, cool. Now I have to work on my floater. I'm in the park, I get to shoot my floater. Okay, cool. Now I have to work on my floater. I'm skilled here and I have to work on my corner three. Okay, James, when you drive left, I'm gonna be in the right wing. I'm not gonna move. You can throw that bitch blind. I'm gonna be there.
Starting point is 01:34:53 So now I have these, okay, cool, these, okay, mental notes in my head, how the game is being played. I take that and I go with Kawhi. And I go with Paul George. And I learn a little bit more.? I take that and I go with Kawhi and I go with Paul George and I learn a little bit more and I take that and I go with a younger team, Carl Anthony Towns, Anthony Atters, let me teach you this.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Now take that and go with LeBron. Okay, this is easy, I've been down here before. Like, so like, that's why it's so easy for me playing with all these superstars. By the way, we had your back when you acted like you won the, you know, championship after the playing game. We had your back in the moment.
Starting point is 01:35:26 You weren't even a coworker at that time. We were like, fuck that, it's sports. Celebrate. I was so hyped. You gotta think, I come in locker room, right? Fuck locker room. I get traded to people to understand. I go Clippers to Memphis, right?
Starting point is 01:35:44 I go Clippers to Memphis Grizzlies I go Clippers to Memphis Grizzlies. I'm talking to the G.O. in Memphis. Yeah, we'll bring you to training camp. We'll see what happens from there. I train in camp. Well, fuck, I'm supposed to be starred next to J.O. You can tell me about training camp. Get me out this fucking team.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I don't wanna be here no more. Straight, right? So that's how I go to Minnesota. I get to Minnesota. Yeah, man, that's rollin'. Man, I like this team, man. We about to go to fucking playoffs. Guy on the team goes, oh, playoffs, Pater. Man, I like this team, man. We about to go to fucking playoffs. Guy on the team goes,
Starting point is 01:36:05 Playoffs, Pat, we won 12 games last year. Shut up. Lock in. Going to the motherfucking playoffs, right? And to build that, to put work in that bitch into, you know, Pat, man, you going to Minnesota, bro, you know what happens out to Minnesota? I would.
Starting point is 01:36:20 It's over with. That's what people go to die. They go to Minnesota, end of the career, whatever. Bye bye. I know, this is a joke. Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, get confidence, get confidence, win some games. We want 52 fucking games a year.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Yeah, fun team. You have people gluing their hands to the court. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. Yeah, it's a wild atmosphere. Got a contract extension middle of the fucking season. It's wild. Yeah, yeah, so out of all those teammates you just mentioned
Starting point is 01:36:49 and any others that you've ever played with, who are your favorite teammates? Favorite teammates, right? I assume that a lot of people would say their favorite teammate was Pat Bev. Who's Pat Bev's favorite teammate? So I'm not saying this because he's my teammate now, McGillanari.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Okay. Right, Trevor Reeson. Okay. James Harden. Okay. Ryan Anderson. Big Zubat, Koala Leonard, PG, right? Anthony Edwards, Carl Anthony, like, everything.
Starting point is 01:37:24 So I wanted to do this with you, because I saw you did this with Richard Jefferson. You didn't say Mantis. Mantis, yeah, he's teammate of yours. One day. I heard he's not with Barstow, he's not his teammate. He was a teammate. Oh, for one day, you got a one day contract.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Oh, okay, so he was. Yeah, okay, I'll give him that. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. I saw you did this with Richard Jefferson, it was great. Can we go draft me and you for your, like draft the best team of Pat Betts? How about we do that ESPN comes the next day and does it and doesn't show us no.
Starting point is 01:37:52 They always do that. The guy from who did our game yesterday, he goes, yeah man, I love your material. I might still do it a couple of times, but you know, always give a shout out on the pot. Like damn, love it though. This is why you're perfect for Barstool because this is the story of this company
Starting point is 01:38:06 is where like I convinced Fox, ESPN, all these places. Stilling. They have a meeting where they're like, what did Barstool do yesterday? Yeah, OK. Yeah, let's put that on there. Yeah, right. 100% dog.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Yeah. 100%. All right, so let's go. Let's draft starting five. Starting five. I'm not on it. I'm not on it. You're not on it.
Starting point is 01:38:23 OK. I mean, this ain't gonna be hard. Joel Embiid at the five. Okay. I'll take Yonahs at the five. Okay. I'ma go out. You didn't play with Yonahs at the five.
Starting point is 01:38:35 I was thinking Embiid because Embiid always ducks Yonahs at the five. Which is a fact. Yeah. Remember that when he played in Denver? Yeah. No, Embiid doesn't play in Denver. Yeah. Yeah. He just gave him 40 in Philly though.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Two weeks before. Yeah, because you played with him, he was probably like, look at the schedule, we're playing the nuggets, I'm gonna be mysteriously gone, right? No. Yeah, that's what we heard. He was hurt.
Starting point is 01:38:55 So I got Yanis, you got- And Pete. And Pete. I got LeBron James. Okay. Good pick. That's a decent pick. I'll take Anthony Davis. Cool, I'll go James Harden, okay, I'll go Kauai Leonard, okay, I'll go
Starting point is 01:39:20 Anthony Edwards hmm. Yeah, he was on my list I don't go Dame. Hmm. I gotta go Dame. I'll go, uh. Oh, I actually have this one. No, you don't. I have this one, unless he does it, I have this one. No, you don't. I do, I have this one. You don't.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Yup. I have this one. You don't. You ain't gonna like this one though. Okay. Shake your desires. Ah, that was what I was gonna pick! That was how I was gonna win!
Starting point is 01:39:43 I swear to God, he was my first pick at point card. I'm just gonna get it. And the hat always is, though. I'm gonna get one pick. And I'll take Tyrese Maxey. So we'll put those up. I'm just gonna put up an interview. Bill to ask.
Starting point is 01:39:53 I mean, Yannis and Anthony Davis, how do you stop in that? That's cool. You're not, you're scoring 80 points. Do you hear my team? You hear my team? I have Kawhi, Anthony Davis, and Yannis. You will literally not score.
Starting point is 01:40:02 I have James Harden. No, I have Anthony Edwards. No, no, I said I said I have Yanis Anthony Davis Anthony Davis Anthony Davis and Kauai You're not scoring. I have and then Dame will just give you 50 have Joel and B. Yeah, okay. No problem Yanis will eat his fucking lunch. I have Shake your socks and that one hurts a little bit Tyrese Maxie's next up you're actually looking at the James Harden is now yeah oh yeah no yeah and you have to play me in the playoffs so we know how that goes fair point point you played with some fucking awesome play everybody it's crazy yeah he's still on the list is Blake Griffin cat Dwight
Starting point is 01:40:45 Howard Dwight DeMar DeMar Debo yeah some good fucking players great players yeah Zach Levine on that list yeah Alex Caruso on that list yeah fuck yeah he's on that list yeah he is yeah what was your one pick I was gonna take Blake Griffin oh yeah NBA Jam style me and Blake to everybody Blake now or no yeah Blake now he gets still dunk yeah he Blake now, he can still dunk. Yeah, he can still dunk. Okay, say that. He told us he could still dunk.
Starting point is 01:41:08 He was great as a teammate. The best. He's the best guy I have on a guy. He's Blake Griffin, there's a few guys. No, I'm not gonna sit here. The history of this podcast, not a horn. I'm not gonna sit here and lie. First game we play.
Starting point is 01:41:21 First practice, I've ever been to Clippers. And he trying to hear that shit Doc. Him and Deon DeJoran arguing with Doc. I look at Louis Wilhaugh. Damn this is what we signed up for. Mind you, it's prior shit that probably happened before that we don't know. We getting the game. I'm trying to, you know, and I feel like I'm one of the top five post feeders, meaning get the ball, pass it to the guys in the post. Blake, y'all's out. You're the fucking ball.
Starting point is 01:41:52 You can talk to me anyway. Don't talk to me like that though. You know, so, but Blake was cool. Yeah, there's a few people in the history of part of my take, we've been doing it a long time. I'm gonna be like, that guy was a huge part of our success. Blake is one of them.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Cause he bought it. I mean, he's been a guest for six, seven years. Like he's, he just bought into everything. He's the best. The best. He gets it. Okay. So what's up with you and JJ Redick?
Starting point is 01:42:17 I know. So that's my guy. Oh, you guys squashed it. No, it was never no beef. It seemed like there was some beef. Obviously that's how they say it. You said, talk to me for life, right? What do you mean? I mean, if you tell me. What do you mean seemed like there was some beef. Obviously, that's how to be said. It's a doctor in your life, right? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:42:26 I mean, if you tell me. What do you mean the media? You said it. You're the media. You are the media. I am. Literally the biggest media. And they give me zero credit for it.
Starting point is 01:42:34 It's crazy. But yeah, that's just, I don't know. You think this tape was, I don't know, caramel color, I think it's brown. I disagree with you. That's all. That's all it is. I still like you.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I like your shades. I like your capitals cat. Like, I even love your hair. You feel me? But I just disagree with you, that's all. That's all it is. I still like you, I like your shades, I like your capitals cat, like I even love your hair. You feel me, but I just disagree with what you said. I'm not disagreeing with the person, I'm disagreeing with the message. Separate the art from the artist. That's it, that's all I'm doing. I just disagree, that's all.
Starting point is 01:42:55 That's it. Okay, do you love playing defense? I feel like an order for me to sustain a career, right, in the NBA, the key or the code to the bank or to the key to getting the door was defense. Now, once I set the stone in six years, like I always play long game.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Okay, I'm gonna play defense for six years, right? I should be cool. If I ride that wave, I should be good for like another eight or nine years. During that eight or nine years, I can show offense now. I should be close to my 30s, and that's all that's happening. And I get to respect the defense. So now I can go up and, ah, I smack the shit out of somebody.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Hit no ball, hit all arms, Ralph, give me. Still, you know what I'm saying? And now I can go, okay, cool, let me shoot fadeaways now. 35 years old, what you gonna tell me? Don't shoot it in that shot. Trying to hear that shot. Trying to hear that shit. So like I used the defense to get in the door
Starting point is 01:43:48 and now, you know, I'm now in people to see the offense. Yeah, I have. It's been great. Has it become harder to play defense in the NBA now? With all the like, you can't touch anybody. No, I just, it's always, but as offensive players, they find a trick to defense the players. I find my tricks.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Yeah. Okay, cool. I can't touch you, but I can over help because you don't like the pass or I can't. Yeah. Okay, cool. I can't touch you, but I can over help because you don't like the pass. Or I can't touch you, okay, cool. I'm gonna just deny you. If my fucking screw you, I don't got the ball. You know?
Starting point is 01:44:13 Oh, I can't touch you. All right, cool. I'm gonna touch you in areas where refs can't see. All the gray area spots. Okay, where are those spots? Pause it. Where the ref see? Where the ref see?
Starting point is 01:44:21 Where the ref see? Oh, okay. Right wing underneath the elbow. They really don't see that. I can hit you. I can grab you, with the ref seat. Oh, okay. Right wing underneath the elbow, they really don't see that. I can hit you, I can grab you, I can hold you. Okay, Jersey, I'm six years in with defense. I'm three, all defensive guys, okay, cool. I can check them off, I don't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:44:34 So I try to find my cheat codes, just like all offensive guys, find theirs. I love that. There's the old hypothetical, like if you were taking an average fan and locked them in a gym with you for, let's say like two hours, how many points could an average fan and locked them in a gym with you for let's say like two hours How many points could an average fan score average fan? Yeah, how tall is this average fan average height? Oh, let's say like Hank. Let's say Hank. He's six feet tall. He can't dunk
Starting point is 01:44:55 He thinks he's gonna be able to dunk. Oh, maybe the maybe the one shot with you know You dribble dribble dribble pick up your dribble can't shoot turn around That probably two of those, but that's it. So that would be four points, two hours. What about, that would be a great next challenge. Good stream, yeah. You versus Dave Portnoy. Locked in a gym.
Starting point is 01:45:15 He can't leave till he scores. Yeah. And you know him, he'll probably like make that shot. Like the, oh my God, the heave. Yeah, but no, he can't throw it. You also be like, on my shoulder. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, he might do this
Starting point is 01:45:29 from the behind, goes in, he runs off. But you get like, probably in two hours, I think you could have 300 block shots. Yeah. Against Dave, it just swat him. Yeah, easy. But you gotta think, I don't block shots. Like, so in basketball I've learned, like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:45:44 I don't jump like the way I used to, I'm fucking 35, so I have to figure out another way. Hey coach, you look through the rule book, what is count as a block shot? We're obviously pat over the top, it's count as a block shot, but swiping down, hitting it before it goes up, count as block shots. I go to Kauai, hey Kauai tells me,
Starting point is 01:46:00 hey Pat, you wanna be an all defensive team, you gotta get more blocks. Okay, cool. I can't get the block up top. But most of the guys, when they got it at a ball, they take it low. To their hip, yeah. If I have my hand right there above the belly, I can get everyone's ball.
Starting point is 01:46:15 I led the league in blocks. How many block shots a year do you have just screaming, like, whoo, in someone's ear right before they shoot? Like yelling. No, you know, my shit is more like, give me that shit. Right, right before they shoot? Cause that counts as a block shot in my eyes. I did that when we were playing pick up yesterday.
Starting point is 01:46:31 I had one of the guys admitted it. He was about to shoot and I couldn't get to him. And I just went, whoo! Right as he was shooting. Yeah, most of the people, but most people, they kinda scared anyway. Yeah. You know what my trick used to be when I was playing pick up?
Starting point is 01:46:42 If somebody was shooting a three, I would just fall down in front of them if I'm playing defense Just like make a big display out of falling down their face They start laughing as they're taking the shots like what the fuck was that? You know, it's I don't it's so crazy. You say that we in training camp with the Clippers We we run into play, you know, doc. It's so crazy. You just said this story doc River's like a yo Pat I Just want you to just fall down It's so crazy you just said this story. Doc Rivers was like, hey, yo, Pat,
Starting point is 01:47:05 I just want you to just fall down. In Bound the Ball, I fall down. Everybody look at me, corner three. You said the same thing. It's like a dog play. It works, it literally worked. It's good. All right, I got one last question.
Starting point is 01:47:20 This has been awesome. We're gonna have you back on in the playoffs now that we've done it in person, which was long overdue, even though you stole Rhone. Yeah, you guys literally gave them to me. Yeah, that's true. That was a mistake.
Starting point is 01:47:30 That was a trade I'd like to have. Ooh. There's a 14-year-old right now, though. That's going to be on part of my take anyway. If you roll. We got future nights here for 14-year-olds. Right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:45 All right. So last question, Roback question, rhoback.com, use promo code take 20% off your first purchase, QZips, Polo's, Hodeys, Joggers, everything. The best clothes out there, roback.com, use that code take 20% off you and referees. Do they respect you? And is there one ref that gives you a really hard time? Because I love that about the NBA where they'll be, who's a ref who would just always tee up Tim Duncan no matter what?
Starting point is 01:48:10 Was that Joey Crawford? It might have been Joey Crawford. Is there one ref that you're like, all right, they're refting tonight and they're just going to give me hell? No. They mostly respect you? Yeah, but they also know that I like to, I flirt the lines too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:23 So where is the line? Like when, like is it obviously different with each ref, but how close do you get to the line on a night to night? I go, so I always know before a game. All right, I go up to ref, you know, before the national anthem, I go up to ref. What's up, what's going on? I see who talks, you know, okay,
Starting point is 01:48:42 but you gotta understand they're still human too. They got, you know, the kid might be sick or, you know, it's a lot going on, right? Raps are human too. So I kinda get the energy from there, right? Okay, okay, cool. I see a rookie or something. Hey man, you ever rap for me before, man?
Starting point is 01:48:58 No. Hey y'all tell them how to rap for me, man. Don't be calling that soft-fash it, man. I ain't got time for this shit, bro. For real, people watching me on TV, bro. You gon' fuck up my defensive rating. Straight up. So don't be calling all that tiki-tack shit.
Starting point is 01:49:10 And I have a rep, I'm like, yo, what's up man, what's up with our relationship? We used to have a good relationship last year man. When do we end up to this point when we can't fucking talk? This is all before the game. Right? And I have reps that come up to me like,
Starting point is 01:49:22 yo Pat, last game man, last game I ref you man, you right, that was unacceptable. And I have also rest at, yeah Pat, I looked at that play, you know what, I was wrong about that play, you right. So my energy always starts before. So now when I'm getting into a game, it's really like your homie cursing at you instead of like a basketball player cursing.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Cause I go up there with the rookies, people don't, this the thing is people don't see either. I go up there with the rookies. Shaya Gills Alexander make sure you know every rap Take them to the huddle make sure you know all their names. Yeah, Anthony Errett's all their names all my rookies All their names make sure you know the rest all names. So when they see that over years It's not like I'm coming at a disrespectful way. I don't fucking foul him man. Yeah I'm gonna waste my foul on this bum ass motherfucker for you trash I'm gonna waste my foul on this bum ass motherfucker for he trashed.
Starting point is 01:50:05 I'm gonna waste my foul on the Martin Rosa, not fucking him. You know what I'm saying? So when I say stuff like that, it's not like that, aw man, he's cursing me out like, all right, okay, cool, Pat. No, fuck that, man, all right, Pat, chill. Now you fucking chill, don't start that, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:18 then we go again. But it's never like that. That's smart, you're establishing the relationship. Yeah, it's very smart, yeah. What do you think about Draymond? Because he kind of, he does some similar things with you with the podcast, with the media. Sometimes I think that Draymond does wild shit on the court because he knows that he can talk about in his pod
Starting point is 01:50:35 and get better ratings on his pod. So he's like doing marketing for himself when he plays basketball sometimes. But like in terms of his game on the court, he's known as a fiery guy, he's known as somebody that crosses that line. What's But like in terms of his game on the court, he's known as a fiery guy. He's known as somebody that crosses that line. What's it like playing against him? So, what people, you have to understand with Draymond,
Starting point is 01:50:51 regardless of people like it or not, he's a champion. One, two, three, four time champion. Mm-hmm. Right? Their team makeup isn't anyone who gets text, literally. No one else on their team, right? Wiggins, you don't get no text.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Steph definitely didn't get a text. Unless you throw mouthpieces and shit. Yeah, he did do that, that was very dangerous. Clay really don't get no text. So somebody gotta establish a foundation of, hold on, yeah we're the champions and we ain't no motherfucking pussies neither. You know, and that's Draymon.
Starting point is 01:51:28 But what comes champion, he's able to say things that no one else in the NBA can say. He say shit sometimes, I, what the fuck? You can say that? Like even if I say that I'll get a tech, you know? And I got whatever I have and whatever the individual wars I had defensively and whatever, but when you're a champion, not just one, two, three, four, you can say shit and you can get away with it.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Yeah. I mean, I love watching Traymon play. I think he's gone a little crazy at times, but what he does on defense is like insane. It's just, everything he's doing on defense something. And he's never like wasting a step and he's always in the right place. And they let him roam too. Yeah, right. They give him the JJY treatment, right?
Starting point is 01:52:12 They let him do whatever the fuck you want to do. Oh, I like that cross-sport analogy. Yeah, yeah. They give him the JJY treatment, you know. Freelance. How much football do you watch? A lot. Not a lot?
Starting point is 01:52:22 But when I had Michael Fraction, first person I reached out to was JJ White. Yeah. He reached out to me. The doctor who did his did mine. And he listened to me, I want you to play in small milestones, pack each way, small goals.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Okay, today I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna do a thousand quad squeezes. I'm gonna, this day I'm gonna take my first step. I'm gonna get off crutches this day, right? He literally gave me the whole thing to get back from microfraction. No one's ever come back from microfraction. Yeah, that off crutches this day, right? He literally gave me the whole thing to get back for microfraction. No one's ever come back for microfraction. Yeah, it's like the heart of surgery, right? Because they honestly reach for bone.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I've been on microfraction for five years. People don't even come back. Chandler Parsons don't even come back. Amari Starramire hasn't even come back. King of Martin hasn't even come back from the injury. I'm five years strong. You know what I'm saying? Didn't miss a day. Listen to everything. You know what I'm saying? I'm bad. You know know I'm saying didn't miss a day listen to everything. You know I'm saying I bet But like yeah, so I Watched I watched people who uh, you know who had a little influence on me. So I used to watch JJ Yeah, JJ is a good dude. He's another one where we bullied him into an interview way at the beginning of part of my take And he's become part of the history of part of my take. He's great.
Starting point is 01:53:25 We literally online bullied him. Yeah, but I go from like, you know, as you say, I've been on so many teams. So I just kind of take up the makeup. My original team is obviously the Bears, you know, but, right, say less, right, most of the time. So I usually adopt the team I usually go to. No, you can't do Packers.
Starting point is 01:53:45 You can't. You cannot do Packers. You can't do that. You're not go to. No, you can't do Packers. You can. I cannot do Packers. You can't do that. You're not allowed to. I don't like the pause you're taking right now. Let's see how this year plays out first. OK, fuck. Let's just see how this year plays out first.
Starting point is 01:53:56 And then I'll see if I'm going to get a cheese hit. Make you an owner of the team. So you were sure. Stock that means nothing. All right, well, I got one last question. Yeah. Do you guarantee a championship this year? I guarantee a chance to compete for a championship, yes.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Yeah. That's a smart answer. It's the only answer. Okay. I mean, you're good enough. Yeah. The box. That must have been, like, it's a big mood swing.
Starting point is 01:54:20 You're like, come on. You have 11 starters. I get traded again and then, wait, it's to a team that team that like I actually think I might be a good piece on this team So that's why the trade happened or the trade happened. Okay, cool We need something that you know you have take campaign take the 14 year old everything's cool, right? You got doc back doc already like Like Pat do your thing, but you got a thing. I'm also like Doc's not coaching doc. I'm also like, doc's not coaching.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Doc, I'm thinking about you. You feel me? We lose with the Bulls at Doc, man. Y'all got a chance to win the championship, bro. I'm rooting for y'all. Like he text me, Pat, what you see? Anything you see out there now, Doc? Before games, Pat, what you think about this game?
Starting point is 01:54:58 Fuck that, Doc. We playing the Bulls. Doc, rebounded is the only thing we should think about. Right? So like influences are real big when it comes to all that. Yeah. So when it comes to coaching and then it comes all that, Rebounding is the only thing we should think about right so like Influences are real big when it comes to all that yeah, so when it comes to coaching and it comes all that I can't wait How many how many years you want to play how many more years? Oh, I got probably got another six in me. Okay, and then you'll and then you'll just start being a everyday guy here You've already been here. I mean you you had a party here last night
Starting point is 01:55:22 Which thank you for taking care of all of my people. It was a wild text to get. Pat was just like 10 a.m. on Friday. But guys think like, oh man, we're Pat taking us to the motherfucking hood or something. Especially when I send an address, you know, and they don't know. Then they get here like, oh shit,
Starting point is 01:55:37 Pat, I should have came an hour early. I'm like literally the best place. He texted me 10 a.m. on Friday. He was like, Kat, I need a place for after the game. Day of games. Yeah, he's like teammates, cards, friends, chicks, hookah, I need it. And I was like, all right, I guess so, we'll do it.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Hey listen, cat, big cat made it so easy, man. Everything was just. I couldn't say no to you. Everything was just, everything was okay, cool. I need 20 hookahs, can't have 20 hookahs 20 hooker I said I was like we got a lot of expensive equipment I was like how about five you're like how about ten? I was like all right Right, so yeah, it was cool. It was a vibe. It was great. Got a chance to shoot basketballs play some cars I love it. I like a blackjack dealer. Yeah, I'm sitting Friday nights
Starting point is 01:56:20 I mean, I love it you're you are part of the barstool culture and I just it's awesome It's like your podcast has been incredible and you buying in has been awesome and it's fucking great having you be able to show up. Like I said, you're a regular guy, which is, you wouldn't think a guy's been in the NBA for as long as you'd be like, come hang with us. This shit, you know what this shit's,
Starting point is 01:56:36 so you gotta think this shit's made me more famous than basketball. You gotta think, we got a hundred million views. That's crazy. You know, It's crushing. You know what I'm saying? So like 100 million motherfuckers unsolved me. 99 of those are wrong.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Yeah. Okay, right. Yeah, let's give it a try. So like the platform here has been great. Like I just been, but you guys don't understand man. I study so many people here in this office at night. Just like I do on my film. Like okay cool, I come in here,
Starting point is 01:57:04 I take video pictures, okay, cool, I can put that with mine to try to, okay, I try to add little shit, go, Mike, shit that, okay, I might have seen. Like, I studied so many people in this office, like, it wouldn't be a mistake that everything's successful with the pod. We should give us a scouting report
Starting point is 01:57:18 on somebody in this office. Thank you so much. Okay. I got a content idea, because I'm always thinking content, but go ahead, do you go first, then I got a content idea because I'm always thinking content go ahead Okay, so I got a content idea um son of a boy dad sass
Starting point is 01:57:30 The other guy but he's ducking you on on video game Harvard. Yeah Francis Francis Francis the best just call him Harvard We know the hard okay. Okay. The best the way he's able to Go in different lanes. Yep. Like without honking the horn, without hitting the break, like his transitions to the lanes that he wants to get to, when he wants to get to him, I'm talking about the smoothest transitions I've seen.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Yeah. So okay, cool. I can, I have unique perspective, so I'm gonna use the same smooth transition, but hit crazy topics, so now when I'm done, you're like, whoa, what the fuck, watch it back, what did you just say? Watch it back, what did you say? Watch it back, what did you say?
Starting point is 01:58:12 Next thing you watch it 78 times, right? Then I go Tommy Smokes, I go cool, I'm light, I'm here, but I'm not here, but you feel me, I'm heavy We're gonna cut this part cuz we don't want Tommy to get an ego. Okay. Okay. You know, I'm saying but like yeah That'll be real sure if time you know, but I but I go down on I got I see I see like The little hitters big cat throw in, you know, like okay cool Mantis down there like like he knows Mantis like the back of his hand like he mantis down there You know shooting threes and he's not even looking down there. Like not even literally not hit is Fort Mantis behind.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Shooting only free throws Mantis. I knew he knew it. Like he knows exactly what's going on. So okay, being aware of the room, you know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, I knew he was going to show up and just start wapping three. Dave, obviously, you know, I watched Dave so much, just unapologetic, just whatever.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Erica, when she was here, the one-on-ones, and the one-on-ones, so I'm just, okay, cool. I'm just still in the little bit of everything and I'm just trying to form in my shit. Can I throw out a content idea? You can say no. And maybe not this year because you're, you know. You already gave me one, though.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Which one? Oh, the lockdown Dave. Yeah, definitely still in that. What if I could give you someone to be part of your team for maybe like a week or two and we can document it? He just goes everywhere Pat goes. He's part of your team. You can maybe even have him drive for you.
Starting point is 01:59:38 He's a bag man. He's doing everything with you. Ben Mence. The guy who said nigger. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And once I hear that name, that's the first thing I think of. Okay. Yeah. So, but, you know, I mean, I'm, you know. So, what, maybe somebody else. I'm the turn of the, you know, I believe in Jesus Christ. So, I'm the turn of the cheek type of guy. Maybe someone else.
Starting point is 02:00:11 It's a good point, fair point. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Football. A concussion style. Yeah. What about Frank the Tank? Ooh. I've won on record to say Frank the Tank has been, he's really the magician. He is more famous than anyone at Barstool. Like people when we talk to coaches, athletes, everything they always, like J.J. Watt is like, he texts me, he's like, I can't get enough of Frank the Tank.
Starting point is 02:00:41 He's the best. Watch all of his videos. I come in the office, he's like, y'all hold on. I think cause he was running late his videos. I come in the office, y'all, I think cause he was running late. Yeah. I was in the office, I brought donuts, it was a lot of content being put out. You seen people that were not in the office in the background, obviously they,
Starting point is 02:00:54 if they don't know you guys don't watch that, they're crazy, right? He comes in a little like, yeah, all the trains are down, what? All the trains, I gotta get a train back. Everything's down, everything's down. What the fuck is going on, man? We had Blake Griffin come to the office
Starting point is 02:01:12 when he was on the Nets, and Frank was a Nets fan, and Frank, I think, said he was like, yeah, Blake, you're like a B-C+, this year. Straight to his face, and he's like, what? All right, yeah, that's Frank. He knows, but he doesn't want you to know he knows everything. He's like, what? All right. Yeah, that's Frank. He knows. But he doesn't want you to know he knows everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:27 He's great. Yeah. He's great. Shout out to Frank the Tank. Well, Pat, thank you for making time for us. Thank you for allowing me to have me on here, bro. Yeah, you'll be back on. We got to get you back on and play
Starting point is 02:01:36 off whether in person or Zoom. You're only 90 minutes away. Only. Yeah. So we'll come up to you. No, no, no. If you came down here, we got to come up to you. I like coming here.
Starting point is 02:01:44 The office is right down. We'll get you honest on, too. Yeah, I like that. If you came down here, we gotta come up to you. No, no, I like coming here. The office is right down. We'll get you on a song too. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. All right, you're the best. Go subscribe, Pat Bev. Love, love, love, love, love, love. Pat Bev pod with Roan.
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Starting point is 02:03:19 Then we were in Vegas. Yeah, then I was in Arizona. Okay, there's a lot of time. The entire time. We're gonna be in October and Hank's still gonna be using this comedy show. Just just, yeah, seriously. Well, no, that was for January. Then it was Super Bowl, then we were in Arizona, then I was kind of sick. I didn't feel, you know, 100%. And now-
Starting point is 02:03:37 Wait, you barely been here. You were like, then I was hungover for a week, and so I couldn't take it out. And then, you know, last week probably should have taken it out, and now it just tears me in the face. It's take it out. And then, you know, last week probably should have taken it out and now it just tears me in the face. It's like, fuck. And-
Starting point is 02:03:48 Making an Easter tree. In my old building, both my old buildings, I used to have like you could pay for storage or whatever. Cause I bought it, it's like a $150 tree or something. I don't want to just throw it out. Throw it off the balcony. Not doing that. Why?
Starting point is 02:04:03 But what I was thinking is like, this room use some some no we're not taking your garbage There's no chance you're gonna bring it in because yeah, I would know because the worst part of it So here's the thing about the Christmas tree Hank is it's gotten so dry now. What's the fake? Oh, oh That's I'm saying I should just fucking I can store it Or just throw no you can't store it here. I'll take it back next December. No, cause you'll forget to take it back.
Starting point is 02:04:28 No, I won't. I'll need a tree. Just store it somewhere. Where? In your car. Or your closet. I'm storing it in my car. Put it in your kitchen.
Starting point is 02:04:36 I don't have room in my closet. Just keep it up. I know it's too- It doesn't like, you can't like break it down? There's, I haven't like I don't have a closet space. You have no storage in your The tree that was a little shit in it put it in the front of your parking spot. I Don't know just put it in shotgun drive around with it. Yeah You're gonna. I think it were now his storage If allowed, I think it could help. No spice. Hank. Well, I'm gonna
Starting point is 02:05:07 Do I'm gonna know what a principle walk me through the content brand on your part We're not allowed to have a flight simulator in the office, but we can have a Christmas tree Take taking up pretty much. We have storage space. I'll put it in a bin in the back of a closet. No, we're not your storage All right, so then I'll just throw it away. I don't know. Don't threaten us All right, so then I'll just throw it away. I don't know. Oh, no, don't threaten us You guys are really oh No, not to that PFT might throw it away. So why don't you just like put it on your hallway and hope it disappears? Because that's throwing it away and then my building is mad at me Yeah, I put it in someone else when you said you still had a Christmas tree
Starting point is 02:05:42 I think we both assume that you had a live Christmas tree or a tree that was at one point alive Dude just throw it in a dumpster I'm probably gonna do that. I just like it's a nice tree. I like it. I'm gonna I You have enough in my in your apartment you live in a two bedroom apartment by yourself Yeah, and there's not a fucking closet that you can break it down and put it in a box. I Guess it's gonna take up a lot of space. Put it under your bed. Wait dude, are you going box spring on the ground?
Starting point is 02:06:12 No. No, he's got a nice bed. A nice bed, but there's not, I don't have like a child's bed where there's- There's definitely a closet in your apartment that has no- I have two closets. And there's no, yeah, yeah, you got a third closet. Yeah, all right, all right, I'll think'll think about it well I'm getting rid of it but I guess it's
Starting point is 02:06:29 either trash or closet not here yeah I was hoping you guys are made we need a tree no no finally no no it's white it's a white Christmas tree it's a fucked up tree I don't know I don't want that tree. You talk about a sick joke. Get a live tree, Hank. Oh my god. Have some Christmas spirit. All right. Was it white before Nikki smokes came over? Nope. He's never been over my condo. Ever will condo. I always I always let's get that clear. It's a condo people he owns. I didn't know that that was a difference until people are like, why don't you say condo?
Starting point is 02:07:07 Yeah, I know that sound a lot cooler. Yeah, but I Before I thought they were the same thing Have you had to talk to the board at all for anything? When I got when I was moving in yeah, and then I went to we had like a monthly meeting once you went I went in the summer and it was just literally eight Super old women drinking wine. And you went? Yeah, it was great. That rules.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Do you offer any suggestions? No, we just, you know, talked about life. Actually wait. We marsaled them, they were like, oh. Wait till the next board meeting, go to it, bring a bottle of wine, and then be like, hey ladies, I got a good idea, how can we spruce up the lobby how about a white Christmas tree boom I'm solved. Think I've got some news for you. Some breaking news.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Oh. Hank. T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T extended. Oh, okay. Yes. Let's go for your deal. Yeah, he was franchise tagged and they were saying they were going to keep working on it. Mm hmm. Fucking love it. It's a good move. Oh, bears are back. Bears are back. I don't think PFT can be true. I mean, I saw you, you say this too, which I saw it was like, you know, Arnold Brothers meme. Uh when you posted a picture of Blake and people were like, how long have those picture frames been on your floor? Yeah. I still, it's like,'m 95% moved in but I still, for whatever reason I have two pictures
Starting point is 02:08:31 that I haven't hung up that like I have the material. That's where they live. I have a room in my house that's my like office and it just has boxes that have never been unpacked. Every kitchen should have two pieces of art that just kind of lean up against the refrigerator. Yeah. Yeah. All right, PFT, your FireFest. I've got two. The first one is that Hank owes me $60,000 and $12.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Ooh, that sounds like a lot. It's a lot of money. So I've taken $60,000 from Hank, really $60,000 and $20 over the last two days playing golf against him. He paid me $8,000. So now he's paying me $8,000. Well, you said I was like, do you have change? You're like, no.
Starting point is 02:09:04 For $60,000? For $100,000? Then I gave you an $8,000. You're like, okay, now you're still going to be $12,000. So now he's... Well, you said I was like, do you have change? You're like, no. For $60,000 for $100,000? Then I gave you the eight, you're like, okay, now you're selling me 12. So that was kind of... Okay, I'll tell you what I'll do, Hank. I'll wipe the $12 clean. Hank owes me $60,000. You guys should keep playing
Starting point is 02:09:14 until one of you hits a million. I'm down. And then that person... That owes you a million. Yeah. I like that. So I'm never gonna collect on that. Well, you're gonna lose it back.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Shut the fuck up, Hank. So my other, my other firefest is, I was talking with some of the Chicago guys today and I do this every year for baseball season. I'm getting in the mindset for betting on baseball because I have a system every year. My system is very simple. It's bet against one team for every single game.
Starting point is 02:09:39 And I've done it with the pirates and I've done it with the athletics and it's been profitable both seasons that I've done it now I haven't done it to the extent that I'm planning on doing it and then I got all worked up about it about a content idea and I think I'm just gonna have to do it because it sounds like it sounds like a lot of fun but I think I'm gonna bet a hundred thousand dollars okay against either the athletics or the Chicago White Sox. Every single game this season. I'm going strictly based off five. Not every game you're betting a hundred
Starting point is 02:10:11 thousand. No, correct. Total. So it's your bankroll. Yes, the bankroll. So over the course of the season, I did the math. It's a six hundred seventeen dollar bet every single day that they play. Now, they're what? Oh, yeah. So you won't have to ever put up a hundred I'm going to be betting a total of a hundred thousand dollars how much he's gonna bet six hundred seventeen six hundred seventeen dollars match every game The real trick in this was a tricky way you said that whereas you started is like you're reading a hundred thousand dollars Like every game and that was smart. I'm good. No. No, I'm betting $100,000 total this season.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Right, but that won't count. Yeah, when you say that, I was like, oh, fine. I'm not going to lose $100,000. Right, $617 every day. Correct. So I think it's going to be profitable no matter which team I pick, but I always do it based strictly off vibes. And this year, I'm leaning right now towards doing the athletics again. The athletics are leading the league in bad vibes. And this year, I'm, I'm leaning right now towards doing the athletics again. The athletics are leading the league in bad vibes. Yeah. Nobody in Oakland wants to go see them anymore. The team is halfway in Las Vegas, putting up like fake bullshit, coked out photo shops. Vegas doesn't want them.
Starting point is 02:11:17 Vegas doesn't want them either. Yeah. The Photoshop they put out of the new state. Did you see it? Yeah. It's insane. It's an insane Photoshop and the plot of land that they're going to say that they're building it on is not big enough to fit that ballpark. Yeah, put that on. And the athletics have turned off replies to all their tweets. I love that. So you can't even reply to a single tweet that they have, which goes against the First Amendment and judging by their pitching staff, the Second Amendment as well. Look at this Photoshop right here.
Starting point is 02:11:45 It's crazy. I love it. I want this stadium. It's just insane. I would love it too. It's also probably violating. It's Sydney Opera House. I was gonna say, it's probably violating
Starting point is 02:11:53 some sort of copyright on the Sydney Opera House. I think you should do the A's because, I don't know how much you talked to White Sox, Dave, but he had, I was talking to him the other day, he had the White Sox for 60 wins But then he went to spring training and talked to the entire White Sox organization. He's upgraded to 66 Yeah, so I did talk to the guys who actually are like he was like, yeah, they're really bullish I was like at spring training. I talked to White Sox Dave about it for this specific reason
Starting point is 02:12:22 He's like, I think they're going to be better than last year And then chief was like it does this have anything to do with you spending a week hanging out with him? Right. Yeah, probably. That's spring training where it's the best vibes possible. Yeah, because his explanation was they're all young, hungry guys that are going to bust their ass that nobody believes in. Okay. And I also don't feel like sticking my finger in the South Side of Chicago's eye. Yeah. So I think it might be the athletics.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Yeah, I think it is. Okay. Officially decided I'm betting $100,000 against the athletics. I love it. Although that's not breaking it down $670. Yeah. I'm betting 100 grand against the way he said it was fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:56 Uh, so yeah. So I guess I'm going to have to do that this is what I feel like it's going to make me money. Yeah. I feel good about this. I might take this journey with you. You want to do it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Do it every single day because because fuck John not run line. like it's gonna make me money. Yeah, I feel good about this. I might take this journey with you. You wanna do it? Yeah. Do it every single day, because fuck John, not run line. I was thinking about run line, not money line. Yeah, because I was gonna say money line is gonna get expensive. Is it, and it's risking six, it's like you'll risk 600 to win like 150.
Starting point is 02:13:19 Like you wanna do run line? Yeah, I think we go run line. Every day minus one and a half against the A's. Okay, so the tricky part is gonna be remembering to do run line? Yeah. I think we go run line. Every day. Minus one and a half against the A's. OK. So the tricky part is going to be remembering to do this. Yeah. So someone's got to remind us. Jake's out today.
Starting point is 02:13:33 Somebody. Max. Remind you every day that the white athletes are playing. You know what? I got the perfect person. Steven Che. You guys see? Absolutely remind us every day.
Starting point is 02:13:43 And we'll want to fucking kill him. I need him to absolutely remind us every day and we'll wanna fucking kill him. I need him to send us a text with like a link to the best lip prefilled out. Every day, every day. Okay, my fire fest is a little bit of a teaser, but we knocked off another white whale and it's coming Monday and we've had to sit on it all week. Yep, we sure did.
Starting point is 02:14:04 We sure did. So get excited AWLs because yeah The man or woman has been a recurring topic throughout the history of part of my take Yeah, are we putting the short teaser and should we? Maybe we just do his voice Like it fades to black and it's his voice Yeah, so Viva TV Viva TV tune in Viva TV. Make it short. Viva TV, tune in Viva TV on Friday night.
Starting point is 02:14:28 There'll be a teaser on who it is. And yeah, get ready. Yeah, just have it be as like it like goes to black and then you hear his voice. Very excited. We nailed it too. I think so. I think so.
Starting point is 02:14:43 I think we did as best as we could given the circumstances Let's just leave it at that max you have a firefest My this whole week was a firefest. Oh, yeah the toilet over How's your toilet no rugs? Name is max is your toilet fixed toilet for your nephew has a way cooler name than you Yeah, I mean that that's not a firefest. I'm never going to let you meet Big Dom.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Don't say that. Oh, future firefest. OK, it's all right. Next week will be better, right? Yeah. Yeah, Big East tournament. What could go wrong? Saturday big game.
Starting point is 02:15:17 Who are you playing? Creighton. Oh, got to win. Got to win. Super Bowl. I know. Kyle Neptune said it was a Super Bowl. So bad.
Starting point is 02:15:24 Oh, man. All right. Let's do numbers 40 20 3 77 8 Dangerous dance Dance. 36, 36. Love you guys. Get excited for Monday. Love you guys. I'm not saying I've seen you wait I'm not saying I've seen you wait Today's our holiday to find you Shining away
Starting point is 02:16:08 I'll be coming for your love of faith I'll be coming for your love of faith I'll be coming for your love of faith I'll be coming for your love of faith Take on me Take me up, I'll take off, we have to walk to the end Needless to say, I'm out of sentence, but I'll keep stumbling away Stumbling, learning, but life is okay Say after me It's no better to be safe than sorry
Starting point is 02:16:50 To be safe than sorry Take on me Take me on I'll be gone, but I'll take you to

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