Pardon My Take - Paul Bissonnette Talking SCF, Smylie Kaufman Live From Oakmant, US Open Recap, Thunder Even The Series + Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Incredible sports weekend and we start with US Open and JJ Spaun winning after a rain delay at Oakmont. The course dominated and Rory is being salty again (00:00:00-00:18:48). We talk some NBA Finals, SGA's Game 4 fourth quarter plus Desmond Bane trade and Kevin Durant has announced his teams he wants to go to (00:18:48-00:38:13). We talk a little SCF and then the Red Sox traded Rafael Devers to the Giants (00:38:13-00:45:14). Who's back of the week including they're making baseballs bad again, Shohei is back and Robots are taking over anything (00:45:14-01:05:04). Paul Bissonnette joins the show to talk Stanley Cup Final, Brad Marchand, his battle with gout, and questions from a 1st grader (01:05:04-01:45:23). Smylie Kaufman joins us from Oakmont to talk about the US Open, following JJ Spaun for the final round, whats up with Rory and more (01:45:23-02:21:29). We finish with lottery ball (02:21:29-02:31:29).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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You've been waiting for only on DraftKings. The crown is yours today is Monday, June 16th and Holy shit boys Oakmont JJ spawn what a Sunday of golf. The course fought back. Oakmont delivered. They did. It was carnage on Sunday. We had rain delays.

We had everyone just dropping like flies. A crazy leaderboard that was just everyone slipping backwards. And JJ Spahn, who started his day, very much a father's day thing. He started his day at CVS at 3 a.m. because his daughter was throwing up ended his day winning the U S open. Incredible, incredible performance. He was dead. He was, he said a 40 on the front nine. Yeah. He was first six holes of the day. Five of them were bogeys looked so lost, had some bad luck but he was dead and he just fights and keeps fighting he made big shots the tee shot

on was at 17 the obviously the putt to win it I actually thought the the the bogey save on 15 right was huge so I was gonna tie that in because in the first the front nine he had five bogeys Yeah, but you know what he didn't have he didn't have any blow up holes You have blow up so that's what it's about at the US Open right Hank Yeah, and on 15 that approach that he hit from the deepest of the cabbage Yeah, I know you end up saving bogey on it But still you got to start you got to not blow up on those holes if you can't get excited about that type of golf

Shot you don't have a pulse Hank as our golf expert, can you just tell like, cause I obviously the, the putt what golf expert. Yeah, you are. You are the putt on 18 to win it. We, you know, finish under par was insane. He had a good read. The drive on, on was the drive on 17 where you only, that was the shot of a lifetime. That was a shot of a lifetime, but 15 that save. What did you always going through your head? Is your our golf expert when he hit that shot? Are you asking that question? Cuz you know, I was asleep No, no, we have no idea. It's just a great golf About Father's Day naps and golf naps. I was I was battling and then the rain delay happened and I don't

Here we have the shot right here for you. Here's the shot Thanks on Hanks iron it up He's like no way is spawned It's just sleeping dead on the couch no watch I mean it was there was a rainbow watch him stick it watch you watch him stick this hey It was just so thrilled I knew I knew I was like how could I not hear you guys? That's a great shot. Great shot. And then here's Hanks. Hey, back to the TV. Dead in the world. Hey, what happened to the

because I, uh, I showed up at like five 30 PFT texted the group at four 15 was like, Hey, can someone let me in? I'm here. You were here sleeping. I texted PFT and we were gonna, uh, we were gonna train. We had a plan to train. Today was day one of Hank being CEO of golf operations for PFT incorporated. And we had a plan. I got here early. I was here at like two o'clock. I'm like, all right, I'm fired up. Watch the U S open. The rain delay happened. And I dozed off and I figured when you guys got here, I was going to wake up because I, cause like you guys, you know, are loud and

I would have, you would have woken me up or been like, what's up or made a noise. But I feel like you guys, I now know you guys intentionally were quiet. No, you did open your eyes when I came in and I was like, I'm going to go hit the simulator. And then I went to the similar practice for about an hour and a half. And then I came back into the golf or into the room where the golf was on TV and Hank was just passed out to the world. I would have liked a heads up. I would have liked to maybe a nudge and been like, Hey, I have a question. I did make a lot of noise by the way, when I came in, I came in, it was probably, I think the final group was at like 12 and I came in and I walked before I could see

the scene. I was yelling in the hallway. We got a golf tournament boys. And then I see PFT in the back row of the gambling cave just sitting there. I was like, what? And then I looked up and it was just a dead body in the front row. And I was like, all right, I'm going to go upstairs. I'll let, I'll let him sleep. Yeah. I would have liked to be woken up. was I fell asleep because of the to the delay like I was I can't this is this is insane on Father's Day. Everyone talks about Father's Day What the shaming is well I got at what point does a nap just cross over into being asleep? Yeah, I was Every single nap that's ever taken place is asleep. What the

fuck? Hey, well, no, I'm saying but not every time you're taking a nap is asleep. But not every question. Not every time you're asleep is a nap. When you go to bed at night, you're asleep. Are you like, that's an insane question. When you go to bed at night, Hank, are you like, I just nap for eight hours? What? No, I was asleep for an hour and a half it was about two to two and a half hours an hour and a half no no it was at least two hours no at least two hours no I want no it was it was a long time it was a long time because I got there at about 4 0 5 and then you didn't wake up until I think 6 15 or 6 20 that's a long nap yeah this is crazy this is crazy shaming from you guys wait no yeah Hank I got here at 5 20 and I texted

PFT at 6 20 saying is he still asleep he said yeah he's been asleep for a little over two hours well all right whatever I don would like to be woken up. You guys just use this is crazy. Hey, hey, hold on. I was here before any naps or ready to go. Golf naps are great. If there wasn't a fucking rain delay, I wouldn't have fallen asleep. Golf naps are great, but you have to time them. I took my golf nap. Okay. Okay. Mr. Fucking. I did. I took my golf nap between, I think it was like, I, I bet on Hovland. So I was, I was dialed into Hovland. I think I tweeted. I was like golf map between I think it was like I bet on Hovland. So I was dialed into Hovland. I think I tweeted I was like, I'm right now. I said I'm going to try to take a rally nap. I slept from like hole three to seven. You got to do my bad. I'll consult

you on my naps next time. I'm just saying be a pro. It's a fucking major dude. Hank brings up a good point. This is actually our fault. We should have woken you up. All right. So as our golf expert, what'd you think about that approach? I'm 15. It's a good point. This is actually our fault. We should have woken you up. All right. So as our golf expert, what'd you think about that approach shot on 15? It's a good shot. It's a great, it was a great shot. It was a great tournament. Oak bond. Here you go, Hank. Oak bond fought back. Good job. Thanks. Yeah, you're right. It had teeth. Although we do we think it was a little weather assisted because well no shit. He was napping. Yeah. Um, well it got harder though. It got harder. That's what I'm saying the weather assisted

I do feel like being hard. I feel a little bit bad for sam burns Yes, uh because he he apparently got fucked by the ruling from two rules officials Yep I don't I don't pretend to know the ins and the outs of the golf rule book But I saw a lot of people usually online People are are pissed off that golfers get mickey mouse rulings from the rules official and they're like, I have to play through this when I play. Why aren't these guys having to play through it? Everybody was mad at the rules officials because of this.

Is it the Kyle Porter video? Yeah. Of him stepping on the ground where Burns just hit his shot. It's just water. And there's just water squirting out of the ground. But apparently, the rule is if you press down on it with more than your body weight, then water, it's fine if it squirts up. It's just if you're standing there and the water. So now people are debating whether or not he was pressing down hard with his foot. Yeah. And if

that should have been a ruling in the other direction. But yeah, him burns, hadn't had some questionable shots that might've been assisted in terms of the course getting a little a little leg up Yeah, not being able to hit through the rough anymore Havlin never could break through Adam Scott was like I feel like the guy that everyone was rooting for Do you know Adam Scott's played in 96th Street major or major tournaments? Is that crazy? I believe it since 2001. I believe Hank. I'm sorry. Listen here is like we just create our own Stephen A Smith solitary show our Our expert was, was playing solitary during the worries. I would rather you be asleep though than play slot solitary. Yeah, true. Because if you're playing solitary,

you're awake and you're, you're choosing to not watch control when you sleep. What did you think about Oakmont overall, Hank? Hey, you were right. It came back. It was a fun tournament. Fun to watch. I like tournaments when wouldn't call for struggle. I have a question for you a hypothetical for you Sure, who do you think would have won if let's say it was 144 holes and not 72 holes Scotty yeah, that's no Scotty Yeah, you know Dan Rapport said that if this tournament lasted 144 holes instead of 72 I have zero doubt that Scotty Shaffler would win it That's another way of saying he's the best player in the world. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Yeah

Well, I mean if if a golf tournament was 5,000 holes, yeah, he would win that too. Yeah We just changed the rules then Scotty would win it. I have a fun fact about JJ spawn. Yeah All right. So this was a Joe Pomp leano tweeted this out. He lost 40 pounds from 2017 to 2021 because he thought that he had type two diabetes. So he's like, fuck that. I'm going to lose weight. Going to get my A1C under control. Lost 40 pounds. Kept losing weight. Wasn't getting any healthier. And then he found out two years later, he actually had type one diabetes. Oh, how do they fuck that up? I don't know. If you you have two diabetes you don't have one. Yeah. And that's got to be the biggest relief of all time being like oh shit well I actually can't control this unless I get medication for it so now I don't have to worry about losing weight anymore. Yeah. That rocks. That's huge. I can eat whatever I want. Yeah and he probably did gain a little of the weight back. And then he got a good golfers body. Then he got better after he stopped dieting Yeah, I'm just lesson in there. It is nice to see one of these guys who wins who maybe doesn't have the best body

Yeah, you know, he's just out there just hitting great shot dad, but yeah, he's got dad bod father's day. Uh Hank here's another one you got right your hatred for Rory has aged like fine wine. He's the worst. He is the worst. Yeah. Rory just bitching all weekend. He did have a great club toss though. Oh, the club toss is the lead. Through the club, bounced back out. You'd think Adam Scott would be able to throw a stick like that. Yeah. What? What's his problem? I think he's just, uh, he's, I think he's done with golf. He's mad at internet trolls and blaming the media, which there's not media that are unfairly. He's saying media sucks them off. Yeah.

I don't really think it's like someone online. So they were looking like trying to find evidence of media, like being unfair against them. It's just people online. I think it's taking out on the media. It's the dry. It's the driver thing. We're going to get into it a little bit with Smiley. It's the driver thing at the PGA Championship.

Well, I think it's also the live thing, where it's just all these guys are competing in the majors and have made so much money. There's been no real repercussions. There's also a framework for a deal for them to work together. It's a blueprint. I will say something in Rory's favor about the whole media thing though and the PGA thing. I understand why he would be upset at the PGA. Rory put his dick on the line for two years being like, I'm a PGA tour guy. It's about legacy. It's

about the kids. He said and did all the right things. And then at the PGA championship, they leaked that his driver was one of the ones that they had to pull out when he, they didn't mention anybody else's driver. They leaked his name specifically after he had just been the one that was out there taking all the bullets for them. Yeah. I understand why he would be pissed off about that, but he did also act like a bitch. Yeah. He's just, he's just a baby all the time.

Yeah. Well, it's crazy too. It seemed like he didn't care about this tournament. He's like, once you win the masters, it's like that was the big hurdle in my career. Right now I can just focus full time on only winning the open champion. I think he even said that he's like, I was quote, if I can't get motivated to get up for an open championship at home, then I don't know what can motivate me. I climbed my Everest in April. And I think after you do something like that, you've got to make your way back down. You've got to look for

another mountain to climb and open at Port Rush is certainly one of those. So he's essentially admitting that he just kind of once he won the Masters, he's like, I'm good. I only care about tournaments that take place in the UK. Now, there was a moment when the the rain delay happened, where instead of sticking around the course, they played a flashback to Torrey Pines in 2008. That was awesome. I mean, I didn't want to stop watching that. It was just a reminder of how awesome Tiger Woods like that. The pot, the long pot he made, like, yeah, I agree with you. I, I, I would have been fine if they're like, Hey, we're going to play on Monday, but just keep watching this. Yeah, I did. I actually, I went and I watched the entire playoff on

like two times two X speed on YouTube as the US open was going on. Yeah, it's it's very they should just have that. It's just be the tiger rain delay. That's every single time. Yeah. Ever a rain delay. Smash the tiger button. All time rain delay though for JJ spawn because it did. And smile is going to explain it. But like it felt like he was lost and that rain delay helped him so much water. They even oak oak mine even takes on water better than anyone else. There was like it started raining and all of a sudden it was just a pool on the fairways. Yeah. That's how elite the course. It was great. They had to bring out the guys with the rollies the

squeegees the green squeegees. Yeah. Shout out to those guys. Some of the Steelers fans they were chanting here we go squeegees here we go Oh, love that. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Good tournament. Great. Great. Final round felt felt even though it was just like everyone was because it was, there was a few guys that were under par to start the day. And then it just that that stretch where everyone was losing like was giving up strokes. It was just chaos because I don't remember a tournament where there was a moment where it felt like there were seven guys who were still very, I mean Scotty and Rom sitting in the clubhouse for very much. Rom had to post up at the clubhouse for like six hours. Yeah. Just waiting for it to be

done because it did look like actually I would say if the tournament had gone on like another six holes, I think Rom would have won. I think Rom and Scotty maybe or Rob McIntyrere. Oh yeah. McIntyre would have been the first lefty ever to win the US Open. Yeah, that would be crazy. And he gave a thundering round of applause. Yes. When JJ Spahn made that putt. If I was him in that situation, you would not catch me clapping. Yeah. I would be so mad. I'd be so mad. You just lost $2 million in the US Open. Yeah. Also, we got to figure out something. We love Scotty. We got to figure out something with. Also, we got to figure out something. We love Scottie We got to figure out something with the hair. We got to go to Turkey. We had do something Maybe just just pick it. It's I don't think I don't think Scotty looks good picking it

What do you think about Jason Day's controversial comments? What were those? He said he's a I might have been napping Cleveland Browns fan first, but his second favorite teams the Steelers. Oh, I don't like that. Doesn't work. That's tough. I don't like that. Where's he from?

Australia. That's those teams. Does he know they don't like each other lives in Ohio? You know the Browns and he's wearing black and gold like I was at a Steelers thing. He's like, well, no, you know, I love the Browns, but he might've been, he might've been being cheeky at Oakmont. Now he said he's like, I know I'm going to get crushed for that. Oh, I love the Browns but he might have been she might have been being cheeky at Oakmont No, he said he's like I know I'm gonna get crushed for that. Oh, oh, I like that I didn't do that yet. I know I'm gonna get crushed for that

I know it's absolutely the material thing to say about American football. However Scotty We got it. We got to fix it Jason. This is like saying I loot I root in state of origin for both sides Right, you can't root for Queensland and you can't root for the Blues it's the absolutely disgrace for you to pick both sides and it's a verified teams Scott he's gotta do something that's bad yeah well it goes with his vibe yeah he is an old man yeah I don't think he does what you don't think he cares yeah yeah no I don't know he does what you don't think he cares. Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't know if he cares, but I just feel like Isn't it? I don't know your your hair plugs guy pfd. I don't you have to do it now Otherwise you'd lose the chance to do it. Oh, no, you know, he's got some time. Oh, you can do it sometime

I mean tiger woods if he's self-absorbed or self-conscious, so so it's a little different. Yeah, it is I don't think Scotty cares if I was Scotty and I was 28 years I did it when I was 38 Scotty at 28 I Would I would raise ease is he actually still 28? Think about uh, no, I think he's like 30. Okay, I was gonna say nine his age has always been so funny He's always 28. Is he really 28? Yeah, he turns 29 in on Saturday. If I was, if I was Scotty, I wouldn't do it. Tiger didn't do it. Yeah.

Yeah. He had a pretty good career. It is the one sport that you can consider not doing it just because you wear a hat the entire time. Yeah. Stuart sink. He's shown everybody that nobody really cares what goes on underneath that hat Yeah, the one golfer's tan picture that he had all time all time legendary. Uh, should we talk some NBA finals? It's two two great series. I think actually the you had the the Sailing Cup final up three two on the NBA. I think think it's three, three, three, three, now three, three game, game four was awesome. It was SGA. It was SGA basically being like, this is why I won the MVP. This is why I'm the best player in this series. He would had

35 points, zero says he basically took over in the fourth quarter down the stretch. He scored, I think 15 points in the fourth quarter, including that maybe controversial push off slash whatever happened, maybe travel. There's like four things that could have happened, but the end result was an incredible shot by SGA and that corner three he hit. He basically was like, I have to win this series myself. And he did it in that fourth quarter. And Rick Arlyle classy said, don't talk bad about Scott Foster Scott Foster's my friend Oh, he's a great referee. I don't like all this discourse regarding the extender. It was just SGA being dominant

Yeah, that's all it was. No, he was he was a dominant they were down by what seven? I think seven to start the fourth. I think they were down I think around eight start and SGA just said I'm gonna do it on my own Yeah, and I and he didn't have an assist which is kind of crazy 15 15 points in the final 438 of the game that is one of those games that if you're a Pacers fan like you felt it felt for three quarters they had them yeah like when obi-topping was dunking on people's heads and hitting threes and it felt like the Thunder were completely on the ropes and it was just, okay, they got to do something.

And also the Thunder's defense, like that's the crazy part about the Thunder. I feel like they just hit, they turn up the button where it's like, hey, Lou Dort and Alex Crusoe. And a lot of people were saying, you know, there's a lot of fouling and it's very physical, but the way they can turn up that defensive intensity, they completely shut down the Pacers in the fourth quarter. If Pacers the Pacers in the fourth quarter. The Pacers had one assist in the fourth quarter. They didn't have a bucket for a really long stretch. And now it's 2-2 going back to OKC. It looks like, as I mentioned on Friday's show, how the Nuggets Thunder series went.

Where it was like, you know, game one, Nuggets stole one, crazy. Game two, the Thunder killed him game three the nuggets went similar thing it actually also people were pointing out it's similar to the Celtics Warriors finals where the Celtics stole game one on the road To one lose lose lose badly in game two then win game three and then they were up in game four I was fucking a man that was fucking a man. Yeah So you're pretty sure do you think that stuff curry? Yeah, cuz you guys were up in game four. That was fucking a man. That was fucking a man. Yeah. So do you pretty sure do you think that Steph Curry? Yeah. Cause you guys were up in that game and then lose that game. Then it was like, well there it goes. Yeah. Cause then

they go back to holding state when game five, when the series and sex, do you feel like that is going to be similar to what happens now? Yes. Reminder, the Pacers have not lost back to back games since March 10th. So, but you think that that was the Pacers that was a that was a That was their game to lose and they did and and now I feel like the series is over Yeah, the the Pacers have been winning the series and it's tied And I mean that yeah the Pacers have been winning the series now It's tied the Thunder know they're the better team and they can just step on their throws. So you think Thunder and sick still? Yeah, max're shaking your head, shaking your

head. It just, the Pacers look like the Pacers controlled that game for the entire year. That's the devastating part. They were, they were the same thing after the, after the thunder one game too. Well, no, the thunder killed the Pacers in game too. But like you were like, all right, all right, it's over. Like the, now that the thunder is is, I'm not saying it's over. I'm just saying the Pacers, I have a feeling we're going to look back and be like the Pacers were 12 minutes away from basically winning the NBA finals and that I, I'm not counting out the page. Hank is I am. I have, I have,'m sticking to counting them. They are as resilient as resilient gets, but I'm just saying like that was, that game was theirs. It was, it felt

like the thunder had no answers. And then it was just SGA and he did it. And I'm always surprised by how deep his voice is. Every time. Although he's got a great voice. Yeah. He's, his voice is so much. He's got a seven footer voice and shout out Alex Caruso 20 points 20 points plus 14 J-dub had 27 I believe like they they all they all chipped in and yeah incredible and Lou Dort was just a Monster and Scott Foster extended the series. He did his job people are gonna say, you know Scott Foster I think it was I saw a stat there was 21 minutes more of The game lasted 21 minutes longer than game one.

So he extended that game. He extended the game. So I think I've been saying thunder in six. I actually think it's going to be thunder in seven. The Pacers, they just find a way to surprise you. They find a way to win games. They don't lose back to back. Yeah.

They will win another game. It's going to go seven. I agree with you. It's, it's, I'm, I'm going off of the nuggets Thunder series where it's gonna I think the pace will win game six I'm going off of the NBA wanting to make money and even though it's small markets The fact that it could go seven is way better than if it was a four game sweep with big markets. Yeah the big story of the game Stephen a Smith

Cotton 4k playing solitaire. Mm-hmm during the game. Stephen A Smith caught in 4k playing solitaire during the game. And then lied twice to try to get out of it where, so for people who missed it, who don't live online, there is a fan took a picture behind Stephen A Smith during the game and it's Stephen A Smith mid solitaire game. Locked locked in. He that starts going viral. Stephen A Smith's like, ha camp multi. He said, yep, that's me. Who would have thought I can't I can multitask, especially during timeouts. Hope you're all enjoying the NBA finals. This is going seven or what do you say? Well, you scroll up. This is going seven games now peeps. And then there was a video that just showed him also having it open while the

action was going on. Um, or you have to finish your game. Well, I, so I'm not going to try to defend Steven A Smith here. It's a bad look for him because I wouldn't be a bad look if he didn't have just the most ridiculous takes all the time and like attack people and do the Tyrese her Halbert and trying to call me out. I'm you know, a Lot of guys called me out and we'll see how that goes. He's an antagonist Can we at least say like it looks from afar?

Like he was dominating that solitary game and like you kind of have to keep going with it Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You don't stop the game just because it came back from time out. If you're on a stack, you're on the left, you close it out. Look at that stack. That's a different, that's the difference between Stephen Smith and guys like Halliburton Halliburton didn't show up after the game or after the timeout. He kind of took his foot off the gas. Stephen Smith went harder right after the timeout. It was very funny that he did that. He, that he tweeted that out and then everyone's like, oh, here's the video. Now the video didn't actually show him looking down at the solitary game when he was, he, he had a nice stack going like that's a clean game. Do you

guys know how to play solitaire? I do. If you had a, if you had a stack of cards in front of you right now, could you do it? I could play it online. I couldn't play with a, with a deck card when it tells you, no, you can't put that card here right now. right now Yeah, yeah me too. Yeah where it bounces back. Yep. There's nothing better when all the cards start jumping Max would uh would uh You're big solitaire guy I've dabbled in solitaire before yeah. My mom's a big solitaire person She I she has like a a MacBook and I think all she's ever used is Solitaire. Do you do three card or one card? You can go three card. Like when you have to look,

I've been a while. You draw three cards and you can only use like the first one. I think I three card is hard. I do one card. Yeah. One card is, yeah. One card is a way to do it. This is a dumb question. Can you play Solitaire against somebody else?

No, I think it's, I know it's called Sol solitaire I think you could like maybe for time for speed yeah for speed like two people have two decks see who finishes first is there a game he could have been playing that wouldn't have gotten this reaction because solitaire is a kind of a boring game you'd agree right max it's a boring game temple run no I think it'd be like I get it if he was doing like farmville or whatever Pokemon go people love clash of clans if if if if Stephen A Smith had the what was the one that went viral where you would catch Pokemon out in the wild Pokemon yeah yeah if he was just like getting a Charizard yeah in the

middle of the game yeah that would be kind of it was on the court yeah it was like everybody thought that he was creeping out on Caitlin Clark, but he was actually there's a Charizard sitting in her seat It's I mean, I don't know what he's gonna spin his way out of it I don't think anyone anyone at ESPN cares because he gets ratings Yeah But it is a bad look in the fact that this is his number one sport and he's going to go on. Got to be locked in. Got to be locked in. You remember a couple of years ago, he was talking about some players on the chargers that hadn't been on the team for like two seasons. Yeah. Yeah. So when he makes mistakes like that, then people just come up. People just point to

the solitary. Yeah. You got to establish to everyone that you're a moron. That's the thing is he's too proud. Like we here establish that we're a moron. That's the thing is he's too proud. We here establish that we're morons and make mistakes all the time. When you make mistakes all the time, people can't be like, oh man, you weren't locked. Yeah, I probably wasn't locked in. Yeah. If I screw something up in a Thursday Night Football recap and there's a shot of me playing a flight simulator on my phone during the third quarter, sorry.

Guess what? I am but a man. Yeah, that does happen. Oh you play a little salt No, keep the sound on We can't keep the sound why cuz you'll hear it. Yeah, I want to hear I want to hear you What's your first move here? I just put I just put the black four under the red five. Oh, we got an ace Let's put that. Oh, there you go. Yep.

Oh, we're cooking. Hey. Hey. Hey. This is good. Is there a game that people would have been actually, the other, the opposite reaction, impressed if he was playing it

while the game was going on? Yeah. I think Clash of Clans would be. Clash of Clans? He'd get a lot of respect. I think, what if he was sick at GeoGuessr? As game was going on yeah, I think clash clash clans would be clash of respect I think if you what if he was sick at Geo guesser as it was going on that'd be good Yeah, well, I don't even know I mean it would have been obviously hilarious if he was watching porn Yeah, he's had a side of porn. I would like that. I always have I always have respect for for

The real like perverts who watch porn not jerking off. Yeah, they just watch it. They're just watching porn just out of, like hey, I'm just gonna have this on in the background. Yeah, Lamar Odom, he would do that. Right, yeah, if he had, yeah, or what if he had like Instagram reels up and we just had some big titty things going on? Big booties, yeah.

That would've been terrible. No, I mean, listen, this is what you're gonna get with Stephen A. Smith. Yeah. Okay, Stephen A. Smith is a personality. He what you're going to get with Stephen A. Smith. Yeah. Okay? Stephen A. Smith is a personality. He's not, if you think that Stephen A. Smith is an expert at basketball. No.

I don't know anybody that watches him to be like, I want to get smarter about basketball. In fact, you watch Stephen A. Smith because you want to get dumber and angrier. Right. When you learn about basketball. Right. And this is exactly par for the course. And he's going to somehow work the Lakers into every single conversation, even though they were eliminated two months ago.

But it was very funny. Stephen A. Smith, I'm sure he'll survive. But every time he does make a mistake, it will come up solid. Okay, other NBA stories. The Magic made a trade. They did. The Magic got better. The Magic did get better. They gave them a lot picks for first round picks. Uh, and KCP. Everybody's looking at the number

of first round picks that they gave up and comparing it to the Luca trade being like they, they overpaid. It all depends. Yeah. Well, I, all right. So it was a lot of first round picks. I do like that the magic they needed shooting. Palo is really, really good. Uh, Franz is really, really good. Hank, you said it when you guys played the magic. Like if they had shooters, I always like a team actually trying to do right by their young star. Desmond bait is one of the best three point shooters in the league. Was it a lot? I don't know, but they at least tried to get better for Palo. Are they all in? I feel like they're all in. Yeah. I mean, also might this,

could this also be a Pacers disease? What do you mean? Team C that the Pacers make this type of run and they're like, Oh, anybody could do it. We could do that. Anybody could do it. Yeah. Be us next year. Well, you know what you can say is like, no more excuses no more excuses. No more excuses. You got to be the guy now. You got Desmond Bain now. They invested in you. You got Bain. You got Bain. Now, it was a lot of picks to give up, yes, but also in the NBA, if you have a good team, you don't really need that many picks. No. No, I mean, if you're going to be really good and that's their plan, those picks are not going to be lottery picks. So what is Desmond Baines wingspan? Cause I heard what meme said that they're calling

him the T-Rex. How far is this? By the way, Max is good at solitaire. He's, he's actually playing really well right now. I want you to, I want you to win this. We're not going to find out his wingspan, but he's playing. He's busy. I will, I will will finish I have to finish the solid thing we've literally just steven a Smith ourselves where it's just your sick bane was negatively evaluated leading up to the NBA draft for having a short wingspan quality perceived as a necessity for capable wing defense I'm not seeing what they actually six with a six four wingspan. Okay. That's he's got negative four. Uh, here's the stat for you. Desmond Bain is one of three NBA players with 800 made three pointers and 40%

three point shooting since entering the league in 2020 and a shot 43.2% on catch and shoot threes in the last five seasons. Pretty fucking good. That's really fucking good. That's kind of what they need. Only nine players have a negative at wingspan in the last five seasons. Pretty fucking good. That's really fucking good. That's kind of what they need. Only nine players have a negative at wingspan in the NBA. That's crazy. It's like 100% of this office. Yeah, we had Gruden had us do it. And we were I was negative. I don't think I am. I think Frank the Tank bodied us. He did. Yeah, I had a plus one. And for a while I was I was the leader in the clubhouse like like Rom and then Frank came in and he put up Like a plus five or plus six. Yeah

Okay, and then also Kevin Durant said he has listed the teams he wants to go to yeah the Rockets the heat in the Spurs Okay, good organizations. I kind of want to see him on the Spurs Yeah, I want to see anyone really good with Wimby. The question is do those teams want Kevin Durant? Considering what they're gonna have to give up to get him? Very good question. I mean, he's only got one year left. So there's a very, there's at least a decent chance that Kevin Durant is playing for two more teams

before he retires. Yeah. It'd be awesome. Everyone just loves, is obsessed with talking about Kevin Durant's legacy. What if Kevin Durant just tried to play for the most amount of teams and that was his legacy? That'd be great like wouldn't that be smarter from at this point being like become the The NBA yeah, I'm gonna try to figure this out

I'll play six seven more years. Maybe a couple midseason trades But let me try to play for every single franchise and then they have to love me Well, I think this this is a legacy defining move right now. I'm gonna say it he needs to he needs to win a championship with whatever team he goes to in this trade because he's cherry-picking the teams. True. Right? True. If he doesn't do it then his legacy in my eyes it takes a ding. Wow. I'm gonna ding him. I'm gonna say if he wins with the Heat legacy way up, because they don't really have much.

Yeah, but no, I would all. They have Tyler Hero who doesn't believe in history before 1950. I saw that. In terms of legacy moves, I would say the strongest legacy move would be to win one with the Rockets. Oh, I think that's the weakest. I think that'd be the biggest because you go to Miami and it's like, Oh, well, you're just copying LeBron. Yeah, I see that. But the Rockets are very good. They were the two seed. So yeah, he

could be like, if he goes to the Rockets, okay, man, they were already ready to go. They were already young team. I spurs might be his best legacy move because he can be like he showed Wemby how to do it and then Wemby goes and wins a bunch of titles and then Wemby does a bunch of interviews saying I wasn't a winner till Kevin Durant showed up. He showed me how to win when it mattered. Yeah so he not only has his legacy but he technically has Wemby's legacy too. But if he goes to San Antonio I view that as just an extension of the David Robinson legacy. Yeah. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, then Wimby.

This is what, I just looked up and everyone just locked in on Max's Solitaire. Yeah. What we do. We're doing very important legacy talk here. This is extremely important. The whole booth is just so dialed in. The solitaire might be in trouble. We may be in trouble. I don't know if I'm going to ... I may have lost. We were deep into legacy talk, really breaking

it down. Yeah. And look up and it's just like no one's listening to anything we're saying. It's just solitaire. I almost think the best legacy move he could do would be to go to Oklahoma City. Finish what he started. Yeah. Or go back to the Warriors. Yeah. And just be like, this is where it went another one with the Warriors. That would be a good, good legacy move. Go to the wizards, your hometown. That would be elevate them, win a title there. Yeah. He's got some legacy decisions to make. Kevin Durant, if you're listening to this, which hopefully you are consult with us. We will, we will actually, you know what? Zach put it in a or memes or someone put a

reminder in there. Uh, let's do it in like two weeks. Let's, let's break down the best all, all 30 teams. What it would mean for Kevin Durant's legacy. Yeah, we can, we can get deep with it. 30 teams, what it would mean for Kevin, right? It's like, see, yeah, we can, we can get a good mid summer thing. Yeah. Yeah. Every single, we'll do a legacy rating on every single team that you go to. I'm thinking about one or two teams right now. That would be huge for the legacy. I'm thinking of one or two that would, would even if he, if he won, it actually would negatively affect his legacy. Just give me one of those. If he went to the Lakers and they won with Luca and LeBron, it actually would take his legacy down more. It absolutely

would. Yeah. There's definitely some negative legacy. The nuggets nuggets would be no legacy down legacy. What they would give up for him because if it was just him and Jokic, that would be pretty fun. I still say awesome. Yeah. But legacy down. But he could be like, oh, this is just hoop is what hoopers do We just play ball You know imagine getting dimes from from yokich and just having the most wide open shots ever and winning a championship that way But imagine but him and yokich combined You know that like the ethical basketball crowd would be like this is the most purest form of basketball ever legacy up Hmm

What about the Celtics Hank? I wanted them really bad like six years ago. I just don't. It'd be great. It'd be great if you want to champion for the Celtics. It'd be great. His legacy would go way up. Would it?

Yeah. Would he be the best player on that team? Next year? Yeah. It's a good answer. Way to answer that. I just saw a tweet from Desmond Bain, Desmond Bain back in 2023. There was a link, a limb lengthening procedure video that went viral and he said, need this for the wingspan.

Please self aware. Stanley Cup final. Looks like the Panthers. They are there. The cup is in the building. And it comes to a night. This was right. That was an incredible game. We're going to do extended talk with biz about it, but that was an incredible game by the Panthers to show up and just dominate that game. Yeah. Absolutely dominate that game. It feels like the oilers might be in trouble. I think the oilers are in a little bit of trouble, but you can just say if you're an oilers fan, now we just got to drag them back. Yeah. If you just say drag them back, then I'm like, point. Do you know this is a really this is a really stupid thought I'm about to throw out there

but Because obviously the Panthers want to win the Stanley Cup no matter what do you think there's a little extra motivation being like We don't want to get back on a flight. Oh for sure like like like actual planning of going on a flight back on a flight. Oh, for sure. Like like, like actual planning of going on a flight will make them try even a little harder, which is stupid to say, because they're probably trying their hardest anyway. I think the it's not just a flight. It's going through customs. Yeah. Checking into new hotel. It's a long ass flight. All that shit. Yeah, that sucks. I think if you're

the Panthers, you're like, I like the weather down here. Let's just stay in Florida. Yeah. All right. So yeah, biz, we're gonna talk a lot of NHL with biz. Hank. Rafael Devers. Well, first of all, congrats on sweeping the Yankees. Thank you. There you go. Good day. Devers home run today? No, I thought I thought I saw he hit a home run today. I thought he did. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the people Retweeting his I was playing solitaire his his the tweet about him hitting a home run today. What happened Hank? The Red Sox traded him they said it was a Financial decision and he wasn't you know, I don't even know up to team standards, which is bullshit

Is he fat? Is it Luca? I don't even know up to team standards, which is bullshit. Is he fat is it Luca? I don't know They brought in you know player at the same position as him They and then he like got upset about that which I think is somewhat rightfully so Even some of the stuff like him not wanting to play a different position got taken out of context They did him dirty in the media. Mm-hmm I've I've been out of the Red Sox ownership since they got rid of Mookie Betts It's like you have a generational player you should do we you have the money. You're a big market You should do whatever it takes to keep them and after that it was clear that they don't care about the fans

They don't care about winning like they know the Red Sox ownership is selfish and and they don't Care about winning because they know that fans are gonna show up either way They'll make money and they're gonna make money. And this was just another example that and it's just it's it's sickening What do you think the the 2018 Red Sox roster? It's like everyone's been traded What do you think and there are a bunch of players are still like really good. Do you have any comment regarding? the Liverpool Football Club and the big signing that they made? No.

They signed a guy for like a hundred. They spent $150 million on Florian Wirtz. Yeah, they did what they needed to do. They won in 2004 and then they started buying up all these other sports teams and those teams are the teams that they care about. The Red Sox are the team that it feels like they're like, well, we don't need to do anything. Like they're going to generate X amount of revenue because fans are going to show up no matter what. And like, let's not break the bank trying to make the team better.

What is crazy is that Devers had eight years left on his contract. 2033 was when it's when he or 2034 is when he became an unrestricted free agent. Pretty crazy. Pretty so he signed a 10-year 313 million dollar contract in 2023. Yeah, he signed that and then they just got rid of them. That's nuts Did you get anyone good back? No, a couple pictures over I've never heard of who have like eras in the fours and fives that sucks Sucks for Red Sox fans sweep the Yan the Yankees, go one game over 500,

little momentum. And then they do that. I feel like the Cubs are kind of do the same shit. But wait, isn't it? Yeah. The Kyle Tucker sign, the Kyle Tucker impending free agency is going to be very similar because it basically is like, there is, they, they, they harp on the defense loyalty. Yeah. And in the Kyle Tucker specifically, there is no better time to commit to a guy like Kyle Tucker than right this second. So if they don't do it this time, they're basically saying they'll never do it. So yeah, isn't this a good friendly move showing that they care about their players? They're like, okay, you got upset about the third base thing. We're going to trade you to the giants

where you'll have an opportunity to play third base. No, no, because they've got a thing about because they've got a great third baseman already. So that part doesn't make sense. It was purely a money move. Yeah. Sucks. And it does. Yeah, I mean, this is also where I know everyone has anger towards the Dodgers. I don't feel anger towards the Dodgers. I feel jealousy. Yes. Cause the, the Dodgers are like, they do the opposite where they, they are maxed out and they're like, but let's still spend more money. Let's still go get more guys. That's awesome. It used to be like that when I was growing up, it felt like the Red Sox, like they were always trying to sign big free agents. Like they were going, you know, early Theo days,

like they were trying to, they don't, they don't, it does not feel like they were always trying to sign big free agents like they were going you know early Theo days like they were trying to a rod. Yeah they don't they don't does not feel like they're trying to win. They're just trying to you know make money and avoid the luxury tax whatever they have to do. That's bullshit. It's bullshit. Rafael Devers hits bombs. Yeah. I mean Mookie Betts that's the thing that I that was the one where they they lost me forever after that like it was Brother named his dog after him. Yeah But he's a generational talent and he is a great like great player great everything did everything the right way Like there's no reason not to get behind him none So they showed their hand then yeah

And then they played the Giants this week. Oh, that's very funny. Mm-hmm Are you are you John Henry out? I think they a Ben John Henry. I think they got Rafael Devers off the plane Yeah, there was like a video of him going back to Fenway to get his car Yeah, cuz I think they're flying to the West Coast for some games and I think the Giants are I think they're playing the Giants This week. I read that they put him in a cab Yeah, kind of strange yeah say money luxury. Does Boston have any sort of history where of doing disruptive protests against tyrannical leaders? You guys should do a tea party for John Henry. Yeah. Henry party like when he's out in public, you should tea bag

him with actual with actual tea bags. That's assault. Throwing a tea bag at somebody? That's an assault. If you, if you- Hot or just- No, just straight out of, wet? Wet. Wet but room temperature.

Wet but room temperature? So it leaves like a small stain and you're like- I'm saying that's not assault. That guy got tea bagged. Yeah. If hot, hot would be an assault. If I were a Red Sox fan, I would teabag the shit out of them. Do it Hank. Start a teabag. It's not going to hurt him. Get him teabagged. Nobody's ever died from getting teabagged or really even gotten hurt. Get his ass teabagged. Get him get his ass teabagged.

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Okay. So level up your lemonade with Truly Unruly. Find Truly Unruly Lemonade at a store near you or visit trulyhardseltzer.com. Henry, who's back of the week? Who's back of the week? First one, this just came up because we have NBC on in the studio after US Open, and they're playing America's Got Talent. It's been an ongoing thing, I think, I've talked about on the show with Boston Dynamics.

And the robots, and every time they show videos, and I'm always like, these robots are going gonna end up You know taking over the world and like getting guns and shooting us all the fucking Boston Dynamics robots were on America's Got Talent It's bullshit. It's bullshit. They're trying to make like cute. They're like, yeah, look how awesome these robot dogs are Yes, when they're like mowing down like preschools and shit like people are gonna come back to that club I'm like, oh, yeah Remember when we were like clapping giving him a standing ovation on America's Got Talent. Yeah. What were they doing? They were like they're doing

a synchronized dance and they were like scratching their chins being like boop. Very good boy. 13 out of 10. Are they part of a pound tour? Is it pound tour? I'm sure the Palantir is has got their midst in him. So I think it's a Bezos. I started looking at that Palantir stuff that I didn't want to look at that anymore. Yeah, no, they they are it's too late Yeah, no, they already own all your box. We're so far. Actually, we shouldn't say anything about Peter teal We has a habit of suing sex through This is crazy. You're right Hank. This is these are not cute. These are fucking they're gonna kill us Yes, these are these are these are built to destroy and they're using this is like PR for them

Also, this isn't talent. No. It's programmed. Beep, beep, beep. But wait, isn't one of those dogs dead? The one in the background, there's one that's on the ground the entire time. These look like, oh yeah, you're right. Yeah. Here's how we combat these dogs.

I'm gonna start selling magnets. Just giant magnets. It'll fuck them up. Everything about that robot. This is scary They like it snake necks too. Yeah, no it was it was It's not the vibe. I love that dead one. There's just a dead one on the side only the only robot I like is a dead robot. That's absolutely right, okay? I'm either who's back though before that it was gonna be the big three

Yes, a lot of big three drama this week. going to be the big three. Yes. A lot of big three drama this week. I feel like the big three is growing because it's like they have all you know they're very popular NBA players from like 10 15 years ago. Big names big names playing Steven Jackson's coaching gotten a fight in the locker room after Michael Beasley was going at Dwight Howard Lance Stevenson. Well it seems to be since white hard actually fought. Yeah. And it's hilarious because I saw that clip and the only thing I thought of was, Holy shit, Michael Beasley and Lynn Stevenson are teammates. After what happened last week, those guys maybe like shower in the locker room together. After Beasley told them like, I'm going to get sexual with you.

I'm going to be, we we're gonna make a sex tape together Yeah, that was awesome. I like it. This is the United Center. I think Should have won. I like it now the basketball is over. It's like this will be a good it's a good You know, there's not a lot of sports on especially on the weekends. It's like it's good. Yeah You know ice cube is in our office on Friday. I did. Yep. Yeah, Tim What's yeah, that's him what did you know who the I didn't realize this but the ice cube whisperer at our offices Donnie no White Sox Dave To ice cube does he when ice cube comes in town?

I say it's like hey you want ice cube. Yeah, he hit me up like a couple months ago Yeah now if I had known when he When he initially asked me like do you want to interview ice cube on part of my take if I had known That we were gonna have Tim Woods in the office that same day, I would have said, yes, let's get Ice Cube to play Dungeons and Dragons with us. And that would have been awesome. That would have been sick.

That would have been sick. Yeah, we were playing Dungeons and Dragons, so we couldn't have Ice Cube. Yeah, Beasley. Beasley alone is going to sell tickets. He's so entertaining. Good who's back. Thanks. Great who's back, Hank.

Thanks. My who's back of the week so entertaining Good who's back. Thanks great. Who's back Hank? Thanks My who's back of the week is Armando plantis Hank's friend Mondo do my boy boy breaking moves breaking moves Shohei ohtani will be the starting pitcher for the Los Angeles Dodgers tomorrow night against the San Diego Padres I don't know if that's breaking does my second who's back. Oh shit. Yeah bad. Yeah, I just saw I just saw it on Twitter He's back. Yeah, he's back. He's gonna he's gonna be thrown off the mound. He's gonna be actually pitching Who's your first Mondo Duplantis? Okay, Hank's good friend. He is the Joey chestnut of pole vaulting. Oh

We don't talk enough about how dominant he's been and he's I guess he breaks his own record He's Swedish, but he goes he went to LSU right so we can kind of claim him halfway Yeah, he's broken the world record in pole vaulting I think 12 times which might be as many times as Joey Cheston has broken the hot dog eating contest record Holy shit So this guy is like by far and away the best pole vaulter to ever live and he just did it again He did he just keeps getting higher Fuck good for money. He's 25 AWL

Yep, six we went we met him the LSU Alabama game. That's right. I ended up at the tailgate with him I just thought he was a like we were just growing out Mm-hmm Follow me on Instagram and I was like, oh shit This kid's like a nasty pole vaulter And this was before he broke any of the records. And this was also before Hank said I could get, that pole vaulting would be the easiest Olympic sport. Olympic event to meddle in with no training. Still valid. I mean, he verified it.

Shout out Mondo. For him, yeah. He's like, yeah, I didn't give a shit about this. I just started doing it. I'm awesome at it. Shout out Mondo. Mondo is a great nickname too. Mondo Duplantis. Yeah. Shout out him.

And then Shohei Otani is back. And then one more. Were you going to say anything about baseball? No, yeah, but go ahead. You take it because I took your Shohei. I do have that, but go for it. Rob Manfraud is back. Rob Manfraud is back.

They're trying to steal Dingers from you in Major League Baseball. They're trying to steal Dingers from you. Yep in Major League Baseball They're trying to rob you of Dingers the athletic on the back the athletic just reported Seems that the seams on the baseballs this year are higher than they have been in the past And it's stealing Dingers away from everybody. Yeah, so they said there's no intentional change to the balls manufacturing But there is an uptick in drag. It's the highest uptick in drag that they've ever had in the stag cast era so the balls are going I think four or four feet shorter than they were last year yeah so they're stealing dingers away from you not every pop fly would have been a dinger but four feet makes a difference and the and the MLB doesn't get any

credit for admitting this because Andrew McCutcheon, shout out him, just said it before that and then they had to answer to it. So there was like a tweet, Ben Verlander was like, you can't tell me there's not something going on with these balls when Juan Soto absolutely ripped one and it was warning track power. And then McCutcheon said, I was told by a rep for MLB that the balls are indeed different this year. They stated higher seams, which produces more drag on baseball causing baseballs to not travel as far as they should. When asked why I was told every baseball is hand sewn so

no ball is the same. When I asked if there's something that can be done about correcting the current performance of this year's baseball I was told there was nothing that can be done about it this season but they are working hard on getting to the bottom of why the seams are higher. So yeah, that you, uh, that we're all trying to figure out who did this. Why can't they fix it though in the season? So I did not know that every ball was hand sewn. Neither did I. That's kind of crazy because what MLB goes through hundreds of thousands of balls in a year. Well, they just said that it was the league says that it is. So if you're, if you're a pitcher, you gotta fucking, you gotta make sure you stay healthy and pitch well for the end.

And so where? On the baseball. No, like where they do, like that's a lot. Yeah, where do they do it? Well, the company that makes baseballs is actually owned by Major League Baseball. Also, this is not as crazy as you think, Hank, because like, isn't every NFL football made from like the same two people every year? Yeah, but there's like a hundred thousand balls that get used in a baseball. No, of course, of course, but like, they do do these weird things. There's like a couple that makes every NFL football.

Yeah, but listen, Hank has always been adamant that balls should not be doctored in any way shape or form who did you find out where Costa Rica oh Hundreds of employees produces 2.4 million baseballs annually wow point 2 million of which are deemed good enough for MLB games I would like that job to just be like yep. Nope. We should write. We should write a new movie the like National Treasure, but it's foul ball guy doing a raid on Costa Rica, getting all the balls before they can even go out. Mm hmm. He's five hundred found a way to capture them all.

Well, that thoughts and prayers to the foul ball guy. I know he's not getting as many dingers to catch. I know his numbers are going to be might have to go back to foul territory. He should sue MLB for taking away his livelihood. Yeah. Now, actually, the more interesting story about baseballs and one family is that guy that just rubs the mud on them. Yeah, the guy that only one guy is allowed to harvest mud that then gets rubbed on every single baseball that's used in a baseball game. I think that's what I was thinking.

And he, he sells like, uh, I think he sells to each team individually and they get to rub the mud, the balls with mud for like 30 seconds and then they're deemed worthy to pitch. Yeah. Uh, give us more dingers. Yeah, they're taking away dingers from us. This is going to, this is going to negatively affect the dingers only league. It is. Uh, okay. My who's back. Uh, I get a couple, uh, first is the Bengals. They have restarted their conversations with Trey Hendrickson. So that's good. They're just playing a shell game Yeah, that's all they're doing. They're like, okay Well, our first round pick is pissed off at us

So now we'll just go and renegotiate the tray and then once that blows up then we'll go back to our first round pick And then we'll sign him and then Trey's gonna be upset. Yeah they also went viral because someone took a picture of their weight room and there's a slogan on the wall that says a bangle is fat, physical, hungry, accountable teammate. Yeah. I like that. PHAT. Fat Debo. PHAT. Yeah. There you go. Max was saying that's what, that's how you're spelling it. Right, Max? Oh, Max, I found some, oh shit. What? Fat Debo? Yeah. I'll save for the end of the show. I got to find it. I found some, oh shit. What, Fat Diva? Yeah. I'll save it for the end of the show, I gotta find it.

I found some rage for you. I came across some rage from a Chiefs fan who basically was like, basically a Chiefs fan who's like, I'm not owned in the saddest way possible. We'll do it at the end of the show. When they got absolutely dominated in the Super Bowl and they didn't get dominated? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Uh, and then my other who's back is a dumb internet bets that surely won't go wrong. So this one is a, uh, woman trying to maybe go viral on a Tik TOK or Instagram. And she was doing a dance and she said, if

the Phillies don't make the playoffs this season, I'll do whatever the top comment says. Max, I sent it to you. I DMed it to DMed it to you Hank you want to read the top comment of this girl sister get pregnant by a homeless guy yeah that's exactly what the top comment is top comment has let's see it has that girl does this she does this for like every Eagles game 62,000 likes she never does it says you never does them let a homeless guy get you pregnant. All right. So that's bullshit. I want to, if the Phillies don't make the playoffs, I want to, she needs to get pregnant. She, she literally does this.

She does that for every single Eagles game. Like if the Eagles lose, I will do what the top comment says. That's what the top comment says. I don't like that. That's bad. Yeah. That's bad. Bad karma karma That's very bad karma Do you have a who's back for us Zach? I can you who's back for yes, I got one for you. Let's go one My who's back of the week is barbers gentleman who cut hair professionally. Mm-hmm. Oh That is because I'm new to the area new to the state. I've had the same guy for quite a while I didn't know what all went into the the barbers fear

So you say what they got going on nowadays. Have you, you guys, have you guys tried to get a haircut in the area recently and from a new barber? We're going to get you set up. We got you hooked up. We're going to get you set up. Our guy Joel comes in a van and cuts the whole office's hair. Oh, you've got a haircut guy. He literally comes and he shows up and you don't have to, you just walk outside and get your haircut. But tell me, tell me about your, your experience with the barber sphere So I've been trying to just like find a place to get a haircut has been like several weeks and I've really needed one Right, so I'm trying I'm looking online. I'm trying to figure out where I can go in area

We you pull up they they only do the app appointment So you can't call in anymore and try to get a spot you can't wait in line only through the app Then you're looking to get a haircut like okay, they're they're sort like 60 to 80 dollars. I'm okay I'm like oh you got a beer that'll be 160 so we're doubling that then there's a place on the street. They do barbers They do haircuts and cocktails so now there's barbers bars going in I just didn't know they got fancy with it the barbers are up And then there's guys down a little bit further down the street doing featured spots so like oh this guy's in town for the Next four days like a tour like I'll book your appointment now a barbers got a featured spot

They're doing feature spots a barber shop like a tour like a book your appointment now a barber's got a featured spot. They're doing feature spots at barber shops like a guest set. Yeah. Yes. That's insane. Featured barber New York was an even bigger racket but it is the whole thing is crazy. That's why I go to sport clips. Have you heard of men's hair? Have you guys seen like barber tiktok? Yeah, I've seen some. It's crazy. They're the it's massive. There's so many different barbers that are famous tick tockers and they have these like 12 year old kids come in and they look like super nerdy and they puts like sunglasses

on them. And then they're like, my girlfriend wants me to get a 16 guard. I don't know what that means, but they always say that. And then they and then they and then the barber cuts their hair and then he puts earrings and a chain on on the kid and It's like now you're gonna fuck all the all the bitches Every single one and it's like 10 barbers who do the same exact formula for these like 12 year old kids be like now You're gonna fuck barbers are up. Let's do that for Zack. Yeah. Yeah, we should

That's a great idea Let's get you booked at the the most expensive haircut you can get this week. No, we'll do it with, let's do it with men's. No, we'll do it with Joel. Joel, Joel. All right. Put it on there.

All right. Perfect. But yes, barbers are up. It's insane. Uh, yeah, I guess it's one of those things that like barbers for the longest time kind of didn't get, we're an afterthought in society. And now they, now they have phones and can get the on tik-tok Would you say memes?

How often does that happen where me all it talks back to us without Live listen to the podcast I need you to start writing those down Max is showing the tick tock. I'm big on a barber Facebook barber. You like they train you are big on Really on Facebook. Well, I run the part of my time Everybody should go follow that. Yeah, but they transform like homeless people. Oh And it's like it's very addictive. That's like the dude broken bang. That's like the the landscaper you guys watch those videos Yeah, that guy rocks. He just shows up to random houses

Like I'll do it for free. Yep. Those are awesome. I love those. Yeah, those guys name spreading positivity Yeah, you Zach might know I want to start doing that but with my power washer Zach, do you know the guy's name? I Believe was a BP mowing but I could be wrong. Okay. Did you wash any concrete pores this weekend? No, I tried to go back to the newest video yet today and I carried away cleaning up So I haven't watched yet. So I'm gonna watch tonight. Okay, nice. Nice. Are they pouring more concrete? They're always pouring big slabs Slabs only so this kid is like my girl said I need a 16 guard. Oh, she's gonna leave me. He's like 12 He's so young

This is ridiculous. I Had a I always felt weird Accepting drink I had a barber shop in Brooklyn my barber was awesome, but like he he had cocktails and stuff I just was like I always felt weird like I just want to get a haircut and get out Yeah, I'd want an Austin that was like you go and you get a beer Well, yeah, the thing is it's hard to drink beer while you get your hair cut right because you can't really move your head as much Right Yeah, I guess you drink it before I mean

I'm gonna be like more things well draw 150 plus for me to get a haircut and beard trim in Manhattan Really such a racket. I just might barbershop in Brooklyn was good It was still like 35 bucks the only thing that he would get me on is every year He I would give him like five hundred dollars for Super Bowl squares and that he would just never give me the numbers You weren't gonna win every single year So they'd want to buy a square bike Of course I do and then I just would never he would never follow up we should since it's got a Shuffler in one of these barbers Yeah, glow him up. Just give me earrings and like no. Well look at your head now

Yeah. Glow them up. Just give them a change. Put some earrings in the shade. No, we'll look at your head now. Okay. Let's get to our interviews. We've got two great interviews talking more sports. We've got Biz, who's the best, talking some Stanley Cup final. And then we have Smiley Kaufman live from Oakmont. Before we do that, McDonald's. See it right in front of me. This episode of Pardon My Take is brought to you by McDonald's. All new McRispy strips. New McRispy strips are here. It's chicken made for dipping. Tender juicy white meat chicken with a golden brown peppery breading. It's chicken so good it deserves its own sauce. The creamy chili McRispy strip dip. A sauce that's creamy savory and sweet with a little heat, but it works with any of their sauces.

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chicken made for dipping only at McDonald's okay here he is Paul Bissonnette okay we now welcome on a very very very very special guest one of our best friends it is Paul Bissonn a hockey analyst who is covering the Stanley cup final has been there for every single game. Called the series over in game four choke hold the game was over. Oh the game was over. Anaconda choke hold. Anaconda choke hold. Which wasn't true because the oilers it up. But then game five happened on Saturday night. The Panthers went into the oilers barn and just flexed on them. And it was, you, you tell us like that was such an impressive game coming from a game where they got their guts ripped out to have to go all the way to Edmonton. And he feel like Edmonton

has all of the momentum in the series and everything. And the Panthers were like, no, we're still the better team. We're going to show you tonight. Yeah. They're just so confident. And like even after the, like giving away that game, like Paul Maurice, the coach, like his comments and like right down from leadership to the last guy, they just knew that they were going to bounce back. They, they're such a close team too. Cause like a Brian Boucher, as soon as we got to Edmonton, he went down for like a steamer, like in the big gym at the JW Marriott, and he got in there and like the whole team,

the Panthers were in there all together in the steam room, like boy steam room, right? So they're just such a close knit group and you knew they were gonna find a way to bounce back. I definitely thought it was gonna be a better game than it was, but right from when you saw him in the tunnel going out, Brad Marsha, how Lucy was with all their like pregame, like, you know,

bag taps or however they do their fucking high fives. They just looked like a very confident group and really right from puck drop, uh, they dominated. There was a little bit of a late push by Edmonton boys, but this Florida team is so fucking good. Yeah. You look through the lineup and the depth like Marshawn's line with Luz de Rhinan and Lundell like they're performing to like a first line standard and they get to play against the other team's third line.

So they're just built to win and they also have some good young players on very fair contracts and it's a hard cap lead like that Lundell kid, the third line center, incredible. And then Luz de Rhinan who Marshawn plays with and a big reason why Marshawn has had the playoff that he's had. Yeah. He has the most NHL Stanley cup finals goals among, among active players right now. And he's 37. He's 37 years old. He has been the difference in this series. I mean, is it, is it shocking to you just how good he's been? Uh, because I know, I know that was a trade that everyone's like, Oh shit, the Panthers already won the cup. And then they add a guy like this, but he has, it's been insane to watch him play at such a high level,

uh, at 37 years old and be the best player on the ice that he shares with Connor McDavid. No doubt. And like this is the Brad Marshawn that dominated for like, I would say probably an eight to 10 year stretch. Let's say eight to be fair. That's why I believe he's a hall of famers because he was one of the best, uh, clutch wingers in the game for a significant, almost a decade. Right? So coming into this year, he had three off season surgeries. So he didn't necessarily look like himself at the start of the year. And even for me, they got to name three players

to the Four Nations team as like a precursor to be like, hey, McDavid, Crosby and Marchand are officially on. The states put, I believe, Ikel, Matthews, and I forget who the defenseman was, but you get point so by the time the tournament came up on my damn like I wonder if they even like if they regret naming him one of the three guys just because he didn't look like himself he looked like he'd lost a step but mind you he was coming back from these injuries so when he got moved over to Florida he got like a I think I want to say like a two three week break where he was able to like heal up, kind of get back to himself.

And then right before playoffs, he hit the ground running and yeah, I'm shocked he's doing it to this level because he was always a good puck protector. He was always a smart player who had very good spatial awareness, who like won a lot of his battles. He was good along the walls, good defensively, but the fact that not only throughout these playoffs, but now in the finals, he's doing it with these individual efforts. In game five, it was off a face-off, five-on-five face-off. Next thing you know, shoots out of the gate, beats his forward, then he baits

Ekholm, one of the best defensive defensive defensivemen in the gate, beats his forward, then he baits Ekholm, one of the best defensive defensive in the league, to the left, goes inside, splits the D, and goes down and fucking goes top shelf on Pickard. So just the fact that he's doing it with these unbelievable individual efforts at 37 years old where I don't want to see people wrote him off, but they never thought

he was gonna get back to peak Bradmar Shaw and we're seeing it at 37 years old. He, he is, I think second in line right now to win the cons. Smythe. Yeah. The guy who was going to be out of playoffs with the Boston Bruins, I believe he asked the Bruins. I think he, he wanted like a, a three or four year deal at like $7 million a year, maybe

seven and a half. And they were like, no, no, we're not giving to you. And then he fucking goes there and does what he does. He probably will get seven, eight million in free agency, unless he fucking signs back in Florida for a hometown discount. And they win another fucking cop. Yeah. I mean that goal that he had was the goal of the Stanley cup finals so far. And he has one more good game. I think he does win the cons. Mike, I think that's like, it's, it's him and Bennett, right?

If he has a few goal game in game six and they close out, I could see him winning it over Sam Bennett, but it's hard to take it away from Sam Bennett. He's got 15 goals in these playoffs. 13 of them are on the road. Yeah. 13 road goals. Crazy.

I think Mitch Marner has 13 playoff goals in his entire career. This guy did it one run. He's a fucking second line center making $4 million. So he's going to he's going to get his payday. Now going back PFT to what you said. You said it was the goal of the playoffs. Which one? The one off the faceoff or the one when he fucking walked the defenseman wallman. Which one are you talking about? I was talking about the one where he weaves in and out that one. Yeah. And people, you can make an argument when he fucking danced wallman and goes five hole to seal the deal in the game.

That was it. Or the breakaway goal that he scored in overtime in game two. So he is just on fire right now. I believe six goals in these Stanley Cup finals. And as I mentioned, the leader among the leader among active players, like we're talking about the Sydney Crosby's Alexander Ovechkin's like Brad Marshaw, the leader in Stanley Cup finals goals. Yeah, it's been pretty crazy to watch. We actually we had most of the behind the scenes guys on your podcast on part of my take last week. Sorry for not getting permission. We're trying to reach you. We're trying to reach wit to find out who's going to start in game five If they were gonna go back to Skinner or not for the Oilers and what they say, I think they split it It was it was oldie said don't think Merle said gotta go Pickard Me your memes said gotta stick with Skinner and then Yan said I don't care

Yeah, he said he doesn't care whoever whoever they play they play it was said I don't care. Yeah. He said he doesn't care. Whoever whoever they play. They play. It was a bit. So your insight. Your team was good insight. Your team was a mess on on whatever night it was. They were having a great time. They were. They were having a great time but they were basically like it sounds like Whitney just kicked everyone out and they were all scattered and like at one point Grinnelli was like yeah he's over there he's over there. Business on TNT and it was just perfect. Chicklets because it's like everyone's buckled and it's like, but one of the main guys is on national television right now. It was great. So I'll ask you now that we have you on, are they going to go back to Skinner now? So going back to with though, that was the first time

I think he's gotten to like hardcore fandom level where he was being a diva about it. That was like, like he looked like I looked like with the Leafs. Keep in mind, I would never kick anybody out of my box. No, no. He even went beyond Leafs jockstuffer. He went psycho Oilers fan with Kate with the tits out. Went full Kate tits out, tits McGee. But you're gonna go back to Skinner now. So crazy, cause he's lost his net for three times

in the last two Stanley Cup runs, right? Two playoff runs. So they don't have a true number one. And I really feel, I feel bad for McDavid and Dreisaitl because they don't even collectively command that much money. Like McDavid makes 12 and a half.50, sure yeah that's a lot, but he's worth every f**king cent if not more. And Dry Cytle's on the last year of I believe an $8.5 million contract. So they just haven't filled in some holes. So Pickard has had an incredible run. That was his first

loss in these playoffs. It's been such a bizarre run because he took over the net in game three for Edmonton when they'd blown the first two against the LA Kings where they should have lost that first round series. So it's even the fact that they're here. It's crazy. Skinner is a better puck handler and Florida's four check is so good. So right off the hop, it just benefits you more. He played unbelievable and in game four, he stood on his head But yet they still scored three goals in the first period it should have been five So they had to switch them to change the momentum up so but then all of a sudden picker played out of his fucking mind again like he did when he took the net over the

first time and My understanding is Skinner wasn't happy about it because he's like it wasn't my fucking fault you guys hung me out to dry But nonetheless Skinner wasn't happy about it because he's like it wasn't my fucking fault you guys hung me out to dry but nonetheless Skinner went in there they did the job and they get the win you have to stick with Skinner but our excuse me Pickard but he just Florida's too strong and he didn't have a good game so now you go back to Skinner the benefit like I said you have is he's a better puck handler yeah so for how hard Florida comes in the four check at least it's like helping your D out a little bit to a certain degree

So what's going on before the games with Skinner where he's the other goalies? It's the Panthers backup right is getting into his head Yeah, just standing in front of him just mocking him to his face and and she was just letting this happen has Yeah, so Skinner that was kind of one of the funny things about game for and the fact that Pickard ended up getting thrown in the net because so Jern warm up and they did this last year and they also did it in game three. Skinner has a routine the goalie Stuart Skinner because they have another one Jeff Skinner he's out by the red line and he kind of just goes over his movements and he faces the other team's

direction rare I've never seen that I don't know why he does it. Maybe it was like a superstitious thing. So all of a sudden, Vanecek, their backup, like last year, the Solars did it, he goes up and starts mimicking his moves, so he's trying to fuck with him as the starter. So Pickard ended up going over and hitting his stick on Vanecek's pad and saying,

hey, let's go stretch over here. Let's go over here. He was not like too aggressive about it. And then next thing you know, he got shelled for three in the first. And then that guy who went over to have his other goalies back is in the net. So it was kind of a bizarre thing. Um, that's how the Panthers are. And I think even to troll the world even further after the game five win when they went into Edmonton and smoked them Gajewicz who had the team puck from the win prior where you give out the player of the game. Hey this guy He gave it to Vana check. We didn't even play. Yeah, like they are just fucking with everybody

Yeah, it's you know, that's how that's Florida Panthers hockey. They beat the shit out of you. They chirp you. They fucking win their fights and they outscore you and they laugh on the way out of town and they've now won. I believe they've tied a record, an NHL record, or maybe they've beaten it with 10 road victories throughout these playoffs. They're 10 and three on the road. So there's only a few teams throughout Stanley Cup history that have done that much damage going into the way of buildings, especially Edmonton. That's the biggest home advantage in the league. Watching a pregame, like the whole ceremony,

calling their team out onto the ice, it's biblical. It's like, it's hockey royalty. We talk about Toronto and Montreal being the Mecca of the hockey world. There's no one who fucking is as hardcore about hockey is Albertans specifically in Edmonton. They live. They are living for this. Okay. So I got a question for you. This is a, this is a segment we we've done in the past. We haven't done it in a while, but it's questions from a first grader So I got a question from a first grader. This is Timmy He was wondering he writes into PMT and we sometimes do questions for a kid

So Timmy is wondering Timmy Timmy is saying hey, I'm hey mr. Bissonette and and PMT I'm I'm a new hockey fan and everyone keeps talking about Connor McDavid being the best Why is he only scored one goal in the Stanley cup finals? I knew you guys are asking to score more goals. This is from Timmy. This is not us. We know that he affects the game in millions of different ways, but Timmy's wondering why Connor McDavid's only scored one goal in five games. Shouldn't he try scoring more? So I just to go back to Marsha earlier, that's why I believe he's a Hall of Famer is because I just said he's gotten like, what is it now? 12 goals all time and Stanley Cup finals.

Mind you, not quite the matchups that Connor McDavid has this. That's why I said earlier with, with McDavid and dry saddle, they need a better team. They do. They can't do it all themselves. The goal factor. I think that yeah, there's probably a, it's fair to question the fact that he hasn't scored more goals, but he's playing against the best defensive center on the planet and Sasha Barkov. And yeah, it's hard. It's fucking hard. Like try not to swear. It's Timmy. It's a first grader. He, he's been a little bit snake bitten. Okay. Should have more goals. He did get one last game. He had a great opportunity early in the hockey

game as well. He should have put that one in. He whiffed on it. But yeah, I would say that that's the one thing that you could criticize him on is the fact that he doesn't have more goals in these Stanley Cup finals and back to back years. But in the same breath, he just became the third fastest all time to 150 playoff points. Yeah, OK.

He's over 30 again in these playoffs. We know that. We know. Listen, you like if we, if we were answering this and be like, Timmy, you're a fucking shit head. Stop box score watching dude. And David is unbelievable. It's not all about goals and Hank screens all these questions too. And he's a, he's a known McDavid hater. Right? So we would tell him to fuck off. We have one more from a, but I don't want to tell Timmy to fuck off. He's a first grader. You told me not to swear. Yeah. Well you shouldn't swear cause he sees you on TV. He doesn't care. We can swear. He knows we swear, but he sees

all he sees. He sees you TV. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're his hero. It's a big TNT fan. Yeah. And then we have one. Let's listen. Let me call Timmy aside. Let me call Timmy. Okay. All right. Timmy, Timmy, I think it's a fair question because he only has one goal and he is the best player in the world. He is the best player. He is more of a giver, right? He's a giver. He likes to set his teammates up. He's a, you know, that's a good quality to have. But sometimes Timmy in life, you need to be a little bit more selfish and you need to shoot the pill a little bit more and you maybe need to get into those hard areas a little bit more because it come

playoff time. That's where a lot of the goals are scored. So Timmy, I'm not going to shit on you for this question. And I know I just swear, don't go tell your mom. If you tell her Timmy's mom's hot, by the. Sock in the fuck. Yeah. I fucking see you. All right. Fuck off. That's all I got to say. It's tough love. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. It's another one. Yes. And for me, hey, if you fucking tell your old lady that I swore I'm going to put your old man in the cup chair. I'm going to hit your old lady on the workbench. You're going to show workbench. You're going to show Timmy's mom. You're going to show Timmy's dad what it's like to be selfish. This is going to

come first. Timmy, I'm going to speak into these playoffs. I'm going to give her the oil drill. I'm going to bring her to the workbench. Timmy helped. There's one AWL is actually listening in the car with a son named Timmy. Is that me? In this age grade. Like what the hell? Is Biz gonna fuck my mom? What is Biz gonna do to my mom?

Okay, we have another question. We have another question. Get it ready. Yeah, get it ready. From, this is from Rand. Rand is also a first grader, Dripping Springs, Texas. He says, Hey, Mr. Bissonnette biz nasty love watching you on TNT Isn't this kind of bullshit that the Florida Panthers get to exploit the CBA by not having a state income tax when other states don't

Get that same luxury Why won't biz be a man and explain his passion with his chest when he's talking to Commissioner Gary Bettman when he's on the desk Oh first grader rip. Yeah. Rand. Rand. Dripping Springs, Texas. He's like, it's bullshit. Did you, did you chicken out to Commissioner Bettman? Where's the name Rand come from? I don't know. His name is just Rand. Randall. Randall. Yeah, it's Randall. Randall. R. A. N. D. Randall. Randall for Randall. Short for Randy. Okay. Short for randall r a and d randy it's randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph

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randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph randolph And you know, so we only have so much time on the panel, right? And obviously Gary, Batman's done an incredible job and getting this league into the place that it's been. There's certain things I don't necessarily. What do you mean? I'm not giving him a pepper grinder. You better fuck.

Yeah, right. I'm trying to be respectful. Yeah, I know you're doing. Yeah, Rand, if you're if you're just, you're just listening, not watching PFT just a mimicked fallatio. He did the blow job. Yeah. Like I'm fucking getting on my knees for Gary. Cause I thought he's done a good job running in the league the last 30, 35 years, however long he's been in power. Um,

but going back to my point is, so he said, nobody was complaining 17 years ago when these teams came into the league and this was the same case, right? There was no state income tax and players. He said management, building a strong team, other factors are going to lure in players. Yeah, there's no doubt. They've done an incredible job of doing that. People are taking my question to him as if though I'm taking away from what Florida's built. That's not the case. But 17 years ago, when he, whatever it was, the

new CBA, and it was all of a sudden a hard cap, the cap was $44 million. So the difference now with the cap going to a hundred million, and it's going to keep surpassing that when you add up the discount that these players can take from a hard cap standpoint compared to 17 years ago is a larger degree. So of the 100 million, I mean if you're talking 11% state income tax compared to other like Canadian provinces and state of New York and California, you're talking about 10 million dollars. So for instance, in California, you're talking about $10 million. So for instance, Sam Bennett just did what he did in these playoffs, 15 goals, 13 road goals,

probably he's gonna take home a Con Smythe and he's been on this bargain contract, which they seem to have a lot of. He's a second line center on a Stanley Cup winning team. He could get 10 million in free agency. They could probably end up keeping them just because of what they've built for like 7.75. My understanding is they've offered him 7.25 million per year for an eight

year deal and he said no. Well, obviously, because that between what he knows he can get free agency, I think he might even, he could get potentially offered 10 and a half million over seven years because seven is the max years you can offer them from the team that you weren't on. Florida, because he's like quote unquote homegrown, they're allowed to offer them that eighth year, which is obviously an advantage to keeping the player that you already had. So I truly believe that he's going to end up signing in between the, the, the eight year rate,

eight years at 7.75 to 8.25 as opposed to having to another team from Canada or the other states offer him 10 and a half million and it'll be the same exact take home for him. So it's such an advantage. You're keeping these good players at a hard cap discount. And as I said, all the other factors that Gary mentioned as to why he doesn't want to change the rule. Hey, all good. But from a non-biased perspective, you have to understand that that for him and the league's benefit, it helps that the teams in these southern states are growing because the population of the states and if hockey grows, there's so much more upside to then

Canada you could win 20 games your fucking team's gonna still do the same thing right like if you're in Vancouver or Toronto It's still a fucking juggernaut. It's still worth three four billion dollars. They're still gonna make all this money, so It benefits him in the league for these southern states and these places that he's put these team to grow the game in North America So for all the reasons he wants to keep it the same, all good. But you're a fucking moron. If you're a Florida Panthers fan and you're tweeting at me, it's like there's a fucking advantage in fucking me. There's a fucking advantage to it. I've had, I've had countless people in hockey and agents tweet at me. So these mouth breather people on Twitter like, they're all Gary Dunked on you. It's like, bro, first of all, first of all, I got awful announcing with six million views on the clip. So you don't think I'm throwing this guy a fucking softball, fucking knowing what I'm doing.

You don't think I know what I'm fucking doing. Like that's all anybody wanted to talk about the rest of the game. You're fucking welcome. Some fucking peasant fifth liner who played who scored seven goals in the NHL next to the great one next to Henrikh Lundqvist Hall of Famer. I'm throwing this guy a lob ball so he can dunk on me on national television and everybody's talking about it. Yeah. But if you have half a fucking I'm trying to make good television here. I'm not trying to fucking appease these brain dead morons who don't know what a fucking state tax advantage. Yeah, I love it. That was a great, well thought out group economics answer from Paul Bisson. Yeah, to rain once again, once again, Bill Zito, um, uh, Roberto, L'Owango, everybody in the Florida

Panthers management. Um, uh, can you Google the owner's name? I think it's Vinny Viola. That's a great name. I don't want to fuck it up. The pronoun pronunciation of it, but he's, he has a military background. They have built this organization soup tonight. I heard him and all of his, uh, his buddies from, um, God, I'm, I'm really butchering this, but he went to one of these like, like Naval academies and they're like, he went to West hardcore. Yeah. He went to West. He went to West point. They're like the, they're like the David Goggins of the business world. They're fucking up at 6am. Like they're, they're they're machines these guys and they obviously hired the right people and built this absolute wagon when odds were against them he I want to say he bought the team for 200 million was offered

seven eight hundred million for it and was like absolutely not could have took his profit of 250 300 and ran and continue to build it where I would say if they win another Stanley Cup, this is a two billion dollar brand. Yeah. So to what they've built top down and to the Lundell's making, Lundell makes $5 million a year. Unbelievable contract. Luz de Rhinan on that third line.

I think he's got two more years left at three and a half million. Shasha Barkov best two way center in the world. 10 million best goaltender of the world. Sergey Bobrovsky 10 million like there's not one player in their team making more than $10 million. Gustav Forslund. They picked him up off waivers. He makes 6.2 million. He's the best. Probably right now I would label him the best shutdown D man in the world ahead of ahead of Jacob Slaven. Here's here's goes on. Yeah. I feel like the question is less about the taxes in states in the LTR loophole which has been a loophole for a long

time and there's an end of Panthers did it this year with Kachak being out after the four days. Yeah. But you all all star game. You know and every every cut has it. The Hawks did it like everyone does it. But I'm saying if you're going to complain about something I'm not talking about you but I'm saying someone else like maybe start complaining about that because that does help a lot. A lot of these teams go over the cap with a guy on LTR then they get them back for the for the playoffs and then they have a roster that looks better. Incredible, incredible point. And I think that that would probably actually yeah, but let's let's applaud them. Everybody

at home. Not if you're driving, not if you're driving. I don't want to get rid of it by the way, because it does help. Like eventually if you have a team that you're rooting for that's going to be in the playoffs, you're going to probably use this loophole. You're going to hope that this loophole happens. So let's explain what the loophole is. So because it's a hard cap, like for instance, Kachuk was actually hurt. He got hurt at four nations. So in this example, the player was actually hurt. So he goes on long-term IR. So they're allowed to use that cap space money

in order to sign someone else and bring them in as long as Kachuk sits out till the end of the season. Once playoff begins in certain cases, you can activate them like a few games before, cause the money ends up still working out, but everybody listening, you get the gist of it where I feel personally that when Vegas has done it and exploited that rule, you first of all have to have an owner who's willing to spend money. So if you have a cowboy type owner who doesn't give a fuck, they'll do that like Bill Foley will. And I do believe that Mark Stone was hurt in these cases, but they're stretching out

the recovery time. So where maybe this would have been a three week injury, it's like all of a sudden he's gone for seven weeks one of the situations mind you He's they said he had an issue with his spleen like a spleen thing So that's nothing to fuck around with I don't know if that's easy to just say there's a spleen issue I don't know but if that was the case, I'm not gonna bitch about that one But he has had back issues where once again, all of a sudden game one of playoffs. Well, holy fuck, Mark Stone sure looks like he's flying out there. You know, it's like a thoroughbred weight and the fuck compounds and out of the gate, right? So this is something this year where Florida also

and majority of cup teams do exploit, but Kachuk is playing hurt right now. Like he is not 100%. So not only did he sit out, he's like, well, now we're playing for keeps. I'll play 50%. Right. So I'm not going to bitch about that rule that they're exploiting for the Panthers this year. I would more say they just have unbelievable players on these unbelievable contracts. Sam Bennett, they traded him for a sixth rounder. They essentially gave him away in Calgary. And once again, he makes $4 million. He scored 15 fucking goals in the playoffs. It's crazy. 4 million bucks. It's crazy. Yeah. Is it good ownership? Good general manager willing to

spend money? Good organization. Good organization. Organization. As you would say. Yeah. Yeah. So Tuesday night we got a pretty important game. I would say a must win for the oilers. Are they in a choke hold right now? Is this series over? It's weird. This fucking oilers team like every time you think they're dead, it's a Jason Voorhees. They just come back, right? I personally believed in my gut that Florida is going to close out at home in six games, but Skinner's going to go back in. I boys, when I say I hated some of the lineup decisions they made in Edmonton, this knob block guys done so many good things. He's pushed all the right buttons, but even before the game, I was like, why is this capping and coming out? He's

going to go back in. And Vander Kane has taken some stupid penalties and all of a sudden at the start of the series, playing on the second line, scores a goal, being a factor. Now he he's played the last two games on the fourth line. Right. They need to say, call them in and say, Evander, you've played pretty shitty a couple of these games and you've had some horrible starts for us. But the only way we're going to beat these guys is if you're playing at your best and you're being a fucking asshole, you're running guys through the end wall and you're scoring goals and you've had some horrible starts for us but the only way we're gonna beat these guys is if you're playing at your best and you're being a

fucking asshole you're running guys through the end wall and you're scoring goals and you're and you're disrupting Bob we're putting on you back on the second line with dry saddle go fuck shit up do that um put Kaepernick back in put Klingberg the defenseman who's a better puck mover Troy Stetcher has done an incredible job um he you know, he, you know, it sucks. I think he's the seventh defenseman on the Stanley cup winning team, but they need to put Klingberg back in and they need to play 60 and, and, and that's how the lineup needs to be. And I think that they have a chance to go in there and somehow pull out

a victory if they do those lineup changes and somehow they catch Florida sleeping. But I think that they're too, too deep. They're going to close this fucker out at home. And unfortunately for McDavid and dry side, all they just don't have a good enough overall team. And it would be an all time plans cancellation for me personally, because, uh, I'm sure you saw, but wit has totally reversed it on us being like, if it's game seven, you got to come and basically you wouldn't be a moron. You would be an absolute moron that if somehow the oilers win game six and drag them back to Alberta, the experience

that you would see in that building would be like nothing you've ever experienced. I'm in, I've already made plans. Like I'm saying the cancellation of these plans would be the greatest. It's too good to be true. It would be euphoric to be like, oh, I thought I was going to go to Edmonton this weekend. And again, I'm in, so I'm going to go and I'm going to have a great time if it happens. But to be like, now I don't have any plans will be all time. And credit to Whitney. He's a genius. He's completely flipped it on me. I've had every day I wake up and it's just people being like everything Whitney does for you and you won't go to Edmonton and just

like shaming me. He's very smart move by Whitney, but he was playing chess on us. It's too good to be true. Like I want you to experience that so bad because you have such a big platform both you guys With like just sports people in general and I don't know what percentage of those people genuinely care about hockey But they would have to watch and pay attention and to try to witness The like Gretzky says that McDavid's better than him. So like this is like other let's let's put him second next to Gretzky This is the biggest generational champ biggest generational talent with the opportunity to win the big one when he doesn't even have a that good of a team compared to Florida. Like he would have to do something

magical and something magical would have to happen and you would get to see the pregame ritual to bring them on the ice that is like no other in the NHL, like no other, maybe in sports, you have to be there. And what if I want to pay attention? What if I won the 50 50? If you won the 50, you know what the 50 50 would be if that I bet you'd be $15 million. Yeah, but that's loonies. That's loonies, right? That's $1.15 million US right now. Maybe a little bit more. Okay. Can you explain to us why Canada loves the 50-50 so much? I respect it. I love it. So, so in Alberta legally they open it up to the province. You don't need to be at the game. Go online and purchase lottery. So it's, it's basically lottery. And just based on the hype around the games, it just like, Oh,

it's up to all these Albertans are just all pecs each. Oh, you see what the 50 50 was at from Red Deer. He's always, Oh, Hey bud, get your ticket, bud 50s over 10 sheets by Oh man. I'm excited. I'm heading down to the boot head down to the boot and blade for breakfast if you want to join me. But fuck man make sure you get your 50 50 ticket. All right. Biz one last question. Row back question. R H L B A C K dot com promo code take 20 percent off your first purchase. Q Zips Polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code take. It's your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. It's always fun having you on everyone. Listen to the spit and check. Let's do the Timmy's fucking question again. The spit and check

list does the best hockey coverage. They've been crushing these finals. Uh, you know, the live shows they've been doing the streams, everything it's awesome. Uh, and they get the draft coming up. Uh, my last question though, how is the health? How's the gout? I don't know if you saw it. You might've gotten tagged a little bit, but my daughter gave me a father's day, uh, like card that she did at school and it like had questions like, what is like, what's daddy's age? What's daddy's like say all the time and what it was like, what is daddy's favorite food? And she said steak and everyone's like, you're gonna be you're gonna go down the route of of biz

here so how are you feeling are you still eating 20 ounces of steak a night so I don't think it was the steak okay okay tell us dr. biz so I think I might have been over doing it on the sodium packs wait you were doing sodium packs on top of the steak? I would, you know, I tend to go down the steam room sauna. So I would say on average I was doing between two and three of those sodium packs you put in your water a day. Okay. Keep in mind, like I drink a ton of water, right? So I need, you need something to retain it. So I think I just, overdid it on the, on the sodium packs. Like, and listen, like I, the, they send me the body armor ones. I love them. I love all the body armor. The water is delicious. Like all the flavors.

Like I love body armor. So I just think everything in moderation, like maybe steak and sodium packs. You were adding sodium packs. I have, I have had the, the, the NHL liver King, Jacob Chikran reach out to me. He goes, but I eat steak every day. He goes, it's not the steak. Steak will not do that to you. It's something else in your diet. So if anything, it's taught me like everything else is this summer, I'm

going to get continual blood work. I did last year, I tried to take a bit of a deeper dive into my health and just really try to get everything in that regard on the right path. Like make sure I'm eating the right things, knowing what my body maybe doesn't respond well to, more moderation and when you're living life on the road as much as we are, sometimes it's hard to keep control.

I would say and I would agree that I'm very, I'm very disciplined with my diet for like a normal person standard. But hey man, we're getting older. We need to figure this out. So I appreciate your concern with my gout. If anybody's got it, who's listening, like I wasn't being a bitch about it.

I thought I broke my foot. And then I thought maybe we're gonna have to amputate the thing because I had't being a bitch about it. I thought I broke my foot and then I thought maybe we're going to have to amputate the thing because I had a staff infection or something. I didn't know what was happening to my foot. So we're past it. I had the pills that kind of ridded of it. And then now it's just more of like, how do I, I don't want to just keep taking a pill the rest of my life. I think that people tend to just like to mask things with medication where it's like, let's try to take a natural approach stress, figure out my diet and you know, your health is everything, right boys? So taking natural. So you're saying the natural approach will not, you're not going to curtail your steak eating at all. You're just going to do less sodium.

Oh, I don't think I'll be just eating as much steak just because I don't think I don't need to eat 20 hours. It was more because I was in this, the TNT bubble doing TV every night. And I just, I'm like, this is my routine. I like the two steaks, I like the baked potato, I get the salad and then, you know, I have maybe one other thing I go to, but I'm just, I'm thinking about the hockey.

I'm in fucking autopilot mode. Yeah. So that's why about, you know, now we were in this rhythm for about two weeks and that's when Liam McHugh is like, have you ever gotten gout biz? And I'm like, no, why? And, and, uh, and he's like, you're, you're ripping 20 ounces of steak every night and you're having a steak for dinner, a steak for dessert. So he thought maybe that would lead to it.

Keep in mind it might still be the steak, but I've had a couple of steak advocates saying that it is not the steak. John Butcher-Graw said it wasn't the steak. So I might have created a civil war here with the people listening where there's some carnivores who are like, don't blame steak for your gout, man. I think you just eat only steak from this point on and see if you get rid of gout that way. And Chikrin, you called him the NHL is liver King. He's, he doesn't use light bulbs anymore, right? Doesn't he have his house lit by? Just his teammates are, are, are, are blowing it out of proportion.

They like to tease him about it, but I'll say, man, Jay, I had him in Arizona. Great kid. He's playing the best hockey of his career. He just signed an insane ticket and he, he's the type of guy who he's what's your screen time a day? Do you think you guys are on eight hours? Probably I refuse to look. Yeah. Insane. I bet you he's getting an hour max. Like he's not the he's, he's really, he's really living in tune like he's not the he's he's really He's really living in tune with his body in the earth And and I feel like that's the happiest that anybody would actually be these fucking phones must drive us up the fucking wall It's facts facts. All right biz I might see you on Friday night. Thank you as always

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live from Oakmont. He was on the call with NBC Sports and he saw it all. A crazy, crazy Sunday finished the US Open. We have a lot of questions. I think there's a lot of course questions, but I wanted to start with JJ Spahn with, I mean, an insane, insane round to start the turn. He started the day five out of his first six holes were bogeys. How the hell did he like, how did he do this? How did he do it? He was deader than dead. He looked so lost and he comes back and, and in incredible fashion finishes under par and wins the U S open. I mean, it kind of reminds me a little bit of the cubs, you know, that rain delay, Maybe Jason Hayward was it Jason Hayward that gave the speech

to everybody in the locker room? Maybe Hayward was at Oakmont Country Club talking to JJ Spahn at the reset because I think without that he never wins this. I mean, he just was lost. The composure wasn't there. He was doing his best but I'm telling you he had some of the worst breaks I've ever seen. Like every lie that he got in the rough was so bad, like starting at the first hole, I could barely see his golf ball in the rough and then he hits in the rough again, could barely see it again.

And then two, he like, all right, he settles in finally hits the fairway and then hits a perfect wet shot. One bounces, hits the pin and then spins off 50 yards off the green. You're just thinking yourself, maybe it's just going to be one of those days for JJ Spong. Yeah. I mean, what he did to come back was just crazy. And the weather delay that you guys had, I think it was you on the broadcast that said it, I'm pretty sure it was you. It was the biggest drops of rain that you've ever seen in your life. Is that true? The biggest drops? How big were these drops? I mean, I thought it was hail at one point. So I then kind of like put my hand out to see, you know, how big these drops really are.

But just picture like the the raindrop emoji. That's kind of how big it I could compare it to. I don't know if that makes any sense at all. It was some heavy ass rain. Some very heavy rain. The place was, I mean, underwater. It really was. The greens were totally fine, but we did not need any more water after the rain away. And the fairways were definitely feeling it. Yeah. So did the course get easier or harder after the rain? Because you would think that like, you know, rain softens things up. These greens were super fast. Did it,

did it take any of that sting off or did it just present more new challenges? It played longer and the fairways made it to where for the most part, the golf balls would remain with a lot of moisture on it. And so guys would really struggle to like hit their distances. I saw plenty of players look like they hit good shots and then they just aren't able to control their numbers like they normally do. And it really seemed to affect Sam Burns. I was in the group in front, obviously with JJ and Victor, but every time I looked back,

it seemed like when he was hitting a shot, it seemed as if he was disgusted either with his lie or how it came off. And it's frustrating as a player because you practice to have a chance on the back nine of a Sunday and then when you throw all these, you know, crazy different circumstances and conditions that personally as a fan and as a broadcaster, you know, it was, it was playable. It was definitely playable. I could see the crowd of, okay, maybe the fairways weren't quite what these guys aren't used to playing, but it's a U.S. Open, right?

We expect chaos, we expect bogeys, we expect pretty much everything other than a 50-footer being hold on the last hole to win the U.S. Open, but that's what we end up getting at the end. Yeah. All right, so Sam Burns, explain to me, did he get screwed on 15 because that was where it fell apart for him. He had the shot. He drives the ball. It goes right up to the edge of the rough and it's looks like it's sitting in like a very, very wet spot, not really standing water, but very wet. He, he kind of, he fucks that shot up,

goes into the rough. Then he, it felt like mentally that kind of took him out of it because he then ends up with a double bogey and it's kind of out of the tournament. But did he, he was, he petitioned for relief, I think twice in on that shot and he didn't get it. Did he get screwed? Does he have a fair gripe? Well, I think potentially yes. And I'll tell you what the ruling really is. So you get casual water relief based off of where you are standing and so what that means is if you look down and you look at your feet and water rises up that's when you get deemed casual water but it's not based off of where the golf ball is which is

stupid. That's where the really is a silly rule. There's plenty of silly rules that we have that seems to be one that just kind of came out really at the worst time, and you're right. He hit it in the one place that you couldn't, left at 15, that was absolutely no man's land over there. So yeah, it definitely felt like the only person that was getting good breaks after the reset was JJ Spahn. Yeah, yeah, it did feel like the course got harder

with the water just because it just like there was that moment where everyone was kind of going along and there was, you know, pars and a couple of bogeys and then the, and then the, the, the rain comes and it was almost like the whole leaderboard at the same time just like fell off a cliff and like everyone, it was the moment where I think Adam Scott was fist pumping a bogey and you're like, Holy shit, this is different. He was genuinely so pumped for a bogey and you're like, man, this is becoming just absolute carnage on the golf course. Like from my perspective, when Sam Burns made the birdie putt at 10, so I think go to maybe

around one or two under par and then immediately follows it up with a double at 11. That's at that point when I'm in the fairway with my guys at 12. And I'm thinking, holy crap, so many people are in this golf tournament. There were five guys around that same time tied at one over and in the lead. And really players that haven't been a part of the storyline yet, like Carlos Ortiz, Tyrell Hatton, and all of a sudden, like Robert McIntyre is apparently playing golf. And so you're trying to figure out, okay, you don't want to miss, you know, these guys way up there that potentially post and win this golf tournament because every single dude was leaking oil.

And so JJ spawn on the 12th hole. I was obviously with this group. He hits the fairway on that hole, even gets casual water drop drops. So you would think you would have like a less wet golf ball to be able to control it. And he hits like this biggest, like push really one of the worst swings I made all he made all week. But I think it was mainly the moisture on the golf on the golf club that pushes golf ball way to the right. And from my vantage point, my eye, you know,

looking 200 yards away, it looked like it went into literally a wall of fescue. I was like, all right, JJ Spahn's done. Like he's got no chance for this golf tournament. So my mind goes to Victor Hovland, who at the time I thought was playing much, much better than JJ. And that's kind of how we were producing it anyways, is that we felt that Victor was probably gonna be the guy

to come out of that group if it was gonna be somebody, because JJ was playing so poorly. And I get up to the golf ball of JJ Spahn and there's Fescu surrounding this big mound and somehow JJ Spahn's ball was on the top of this mound with hardly any grass around it and a decent lie and I'm thinking this was finally the break that he needed. He had gotten so many bad breaks through the first 11 holes, gets a good break at 12, and honestly didn't hit that good of a wedge shot. I thought he really could have hit something inside of 10 feet. Hits

it to like 40 feet short and makes the putt and walking off that green he kind of looks over at me and gives me a smile and I I was like, okay, JJ Spahn's back. He's officially back. And from there, pretty much, he striked it at 13. 14, I think, he gets a really good break in the right rough. That could have been a, Adam Scott gets absolutely screwed over in that bunker in the group behind him,

but he gets a lucky lie in the rough to where he can actually play something up to the green where he could have pitched it, had to have pitched it back in the fairway or the rough could have been so bad that he would have potentially hit it anywhere. But he got a good enough lie there and then he makes another long putt at 14 and I'm like, oh my God, JJ Spong is going to win the golf tournament. So just insanity. It was crazy. And I think the guy that had the hardest time, at least mentally, was probably Hatton. I thought Hatton was going to, he might come back in the middle of the night and try to burn the entire golf course down. He was so angry, which I like watching that type of golf. I know it sucks for the golfers, but for all of us out there that are not very good, it's nice to see the best in the world feel the exact same things that we feel on a day to day basis. When you just want to destroy your clubs, burn the course down, say fuck this, quit golf entirely. And when Hatton, was he caught up in the rough and the rough just got so wet that it was impossible to swing through? Is that what it was?

Honestly, I have no idea because Hatton was out in front of me. I was really keeping tabs with the group behind me. But the one quote I'll give you with Tyrell Hatton that he said this week, he said for the most part, I'm always kind of a bit of a struggles with his temper. He's a very dramatic on the golf course and anger issues, if you will. He said for once every year, everybody shows up at the US Open and everybody gets to feel and experience what I feel every single week. Yeah. So that was kind of the amazing quote from Gerald Hatton.

Yeah. The US Open, like I don't want this every week. I don't want to watch golfers celebrate bogeys every week, but it's fun that once a year we talk about it rooting for the course. There's one time a year where the course is as difficult as possible and the guys have to just like struggle. And it does feel like the mental game comes into play a lot more in these types of tournaments where you just know like, cause these guys are just, and you tell me if I'm wrong, these guys play all the time where they're conditioned to be like, all right, we're in the fairway. We're, you know, we're greens and regulation. We're hitting for birdies. And then it all flips where it's like, all right, a bogey

is a good score and to have to mentally like get over that hurdle has to be a totally different challenge for them to deal with. Yeah. I mean, you guys are always doing, you know, who's back of the week. Golf courses are back. Yeah Back, you know for them for the game all of this being talked about you It was but roll back the equipment make the game harder for the pros in this week Oakmont won and it had all the different, you know variables you can throw in there You had rain, you know the crazy fast conditions. You had the firm conditions really that's showed up on Friday You had the crazy fast conditions. You had the firm conditions really that showed up on Friday.

You had wind throughout and then really a golf course that just showed out. Was it maybe too hard? Maybe, but I thought it was really fun for a US Open and I thought the guys at the top of the leaderboard heading into today, proven that they were the players that were playing the best. Yeah. And guess what? All four of those guys who we thought were gonna be the ones ones that were going to be, you know, in that main group of guys who had a chance to win. Well, none of them answered to the test today for the

most part. And JJ Spong was the only one to kind of reset and actually, uh, pull off some shots on the stretch. What, what, what is it that people like I've seen that argument online being like, it's actually too hard. I saw someone tweet that there was essentially like this is like Mickey Mouse because it's all luck when it's this hard. How's that possible? Like it's again it's not every week. It's once a year you're going to play the hardest golf course and the US Open is going to put the toughest test. How can you possibly say oh it's what does that mean that a golf course is too hard. Well you would like for every you mishit of a tee shot to be penalized similar. So like last year, for example, at Pinehurst, they had hardly any rough.

It was all this sandy area with fescue that was kind of plotted throughout the sandy area. It's where you could find a good while. We saw Bryson DeChambeau catch the breaks last year in that scenario. And at Oakmont, I would say the big difference is when you hit, when you missed the fairway, for the most part, you were being punished. And very rarely did you come away with a decent lie to where you could get it to the green. So throughout the whole week, players knew that when they got it out of

position, that they were going to be fighting to have a chance to make a par. So that's when it means like having luck come into this. Yeah. You know, I felt like JJ Spahn had some lucky-ish moments, um, over the last like six or seven holes to give him a, you know, an opportunity to not have to chip out back into the fairway to where he could actually advance something up to the green, where I think he had I think he had two of those situations that happened. It happened at 12.

It happened at 14. And then 15, he actually got a really good lie in the left rough to where I thought he could have pushed it up further. And he decided to lay it up and laid it up in the rough. I was like, what are we doing here? This is like, it's yours right now, JJ. You're leading the golf tournament. He lays it up in the rough. I was like, what are we doing here? Like this is like, it's yours right now, JJ, you're leading the golf tournament, lays it up in the rough. And then he gets another decent lie to where he was 83 yards away from the hole and 15 in the right rough. And walking up, I couldn't

even find the golf bomb trying to locate it. And then he somehow has this like little down grain patch that is in this like five inch rough. But I look at him, I'm like, he can get this on the green where I thought he was gonna have to leave it short. So he has that and of course he makes bogey there. He pars 16 and then 17. You wouldn't believe how good this driver was that he hit. Like standing at the, near the tee box,

this thing takes off and I'm thinking, I think he may have just made a hole in one. That's how good it looks from my vantage point. Yeah. I mean he played great. Great on the back nine. And then one of the funniest parts was John Rom finishes his round. I feel like it was seven hours before the end of the tournament. Yeah. And he's he comes in a plus four right for the tournament. And then they're like hey you need to stick around because you might you might win this thing And then Scotty ends up was he plus three or plus four? I forget but then Scotty he has to stick around the clubhouse, too

thankfully for not quite as long because then McIntyre was in there at a plus one and when he applauded when JJ hit that final putt I thought he was actually clapping because he was pumped that he didn't have to play any more golf I thought he was like thank God I don't have to go back out there on this fucking course and get my teeth kicked in again. But the final putt that he had the longest putt of the tournament longest made part of the tournament, an incredible putt. How great was that putt if you were to rank it in terms of clutch moments in major history? Where does that fall?

On the 18th green? Yeah, I mean what comes to mind like one of the most clutch putts that I can remember is the one that that Tiger Woods made on the 18-3 at Torrey Pines to eventually force that playoff on Monday. I mean that's the one that seared into my brain. This was a putt that by the way I was just listening to JJ talk right before I came in here. I don't think JJ knew exactly where he stood in the golf tournament, which blows my mind. Yes. I need to clarify this. Obviously, I wish I could have done a little bit more research before, but I caught the tail half of his comments of saying, I didn't know exactly how big of a lead

that I had and whether I needed to two putt or three putt. And I'm just thinking, how does he not know the situation right now? But let's just throw in another bit of luck in this. The fact that Victor Hovland hits it right behind his golf ball on a putt that I would say from a difficulty standpoint for just getting it down in two, I would have said that he probably had a 55% chance of two putting. That's how difficult the pot was when you throw in that it was legit raining. It was not very bright out. I would say it was

you know, seven out of 10 from a darkness standpoint. And knowing no idea of how much this rain is affecting the ground. But then JJ said that it appeared to him that Victor hit the putt harder than he thought. And so with that, maybe that just gave him the extra bit of confidence to give it a little bit more of a hit. Because naturally in that situation, it would be natural for the player to come up short there.

And if he came up short four feet, that putt would have been so difficult because it was going to be a downhill left to rider. You wanted to be past that hole if you're going to have something coming back. But I was standing 20 feet away from it, guys. It was going maybe three and a half feet by, which I think he would have made the comeback. The other big story from this week, Rory. What's up with Rory? He's mad. He's pissed off. He's mad at the journalists. I do actually kind of, I'm not a big Rory fan, but I do kind of understand when he was like, I've, someone asked kind of a leading question. Like you, you've been carrying the

water for the, for the tour for the last three or four years. And do you feel like you can kind of do whatever you want? And he was just like, yeah, like I have that right now. But what's up with him? What is what's the story? Have you heard anything? Well, all I can just kind of report on is that he's clearly irked with the media. The media has obviously pissed him off a little bit.

I think the big one was probably how the driver thing leaked out from the PGA championship. That was one of the big things that I know he was probably disappointed with was that his driver was the one that got leaked, where there was plenty of other players that failed the driver test, like Scottie Scheffler. And then you started to see these articles and these stories and these Twitter, you know, these tweets just basically saying that was, was he using a band driver at Augusta? And of course, like that is totally unfair to worry Macroy to run any article about that.

These are things that probably shouldn't have come out, but somehow got leaked. And I think that's one of the reasons that he's been upset. And I think the other two is that he climbed the mountain of winning at Augusta, winning the Grand Slam. And I think he's just kind of been trying to figure out exactly what his new goals are. And I don't think he's all quite there as far as just mentally, physically ready to take on the challenge of a major championship golf. It doesn't mean his talent

has gone away. It's just kind of the desire isn't quite there right now. And just like a long day of the weekend of keeping your kids big cat, you come Monday morning and you're just trying to catch a breath. I think when he gets off the golf course, he just doesn't want to talk to the media right now. We definitely said that his masters was had an asterisk. Yeah. But on this show, none of Scotty's wins. Yeah. But his, yeah, we can do the math on that. Yeah. We were definitely leading the charge on that. Cause he probably goes out to the driving range and he probably hits it a few times with a hammer on the face of the driver. He's like, okay, I got that good trampoline spring now.

What if Rory was just like, I'm mad at PMT. Yeah. He's mad at the journalists. I get that. I feel like he's going to get locked in for the open though, right? It's poor Rush, man. That's like his next big milestone. I think it'll be easy for him to kind of turn his brain on for that. But I don't think Beth Page is going to be too kind to not only the Europeans,

but Rory in general. I think it's going to be no that that week's going to be absolutely just chaos. Yeah, no, I kind of feel I feel in advance for Rory for what he's going to have to deal with from a bunch of drunk, angry Long Islanders out there screaming his name. It's going to be great. I'm excited for it. Hey, can I go ahead? No, no, you go ahead. I was going to say is that JJ Spong has played his way on the Ryker Cup team. Yeah. So I actually had a question about JJ Spong because it's not, I mean, he obviously he's been on tour for a while, but he hadn't won a major. What like was, was

this on your radar as a guy who was next up that could win one because like Victor Hovland definitely is in that category and then JJ Spahn kind of stole his moment there. But was he what's his story. What's his is he like someone who we can expect to go win a few of these. If you would ask me heading into the week, who was the next guy to win a major championship? And when I eventually would have gotten to JJ Spahn, it would have took me a while. And that's mainly just because I just need to continue to see more from him, like continue to put himself in positions where he has a chance.

You wanted to see if the player's championship was just an anomaly. Was that a week where he just played really well? Because he should have won Sony open earlier this year in Hawaii. Cognizant, he also had a top five. So he had a great start to the season. So you're just wondering, is this a season in which he's like peaking?

Like where's the peak in this? How good can JJ Spahn be? And I don't think anybody knew. I don't know if JJ Spahn even knew, but it's funny that I was at dinner on Wednesday night and I was there with the player and I asked him a question. I said, Hey, who do you think the most underrated player right now on the PGA tour is? And he thought about it a second. He said, I'm not sure if this is considered an underrated player

because he's playing so well, but JJ Spahn. And I thought about it and I was like, you know what? You're exactly right. Because he is a guy that just is so rock solid, has no weaknesses. And this week, he got a hot putter. And that's been his like Achilles heel was his short game is putting and he was I think he probably went and strokes came putting on the week, which if you would have told me that heading into the week that J.J. Spahn was gonna be the best potter. I just said said, well, JJ Spahn won the

US Open. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm looking at a few outbursts. We had a lot of outbursts this week. One from Rory smashed one of the tee boxes. I don't know if I consider him a bad boy though. He's more like sad boy of golf.

Then we had an outburst obviously from Hatton. We know that he's got the temper. And then we had an outburst from Wyndham Clark, apparently, in the locker room. Did he destroy two lockers in the locker room? Allegedly what the picture looks like. I haven't seen the video. Maybe Netflix was in there.

We can see it later. Whenever the next whatever it's called, the full swing comes out. We'll see that footage. But yeah, I guess whether it's Wyndham or Rory, you gotta make, or Hatton, you just gotta keep your, you know, eyes peeled when they hit a golf shot. You just gotta, you know, stay aware, honestly.

Yeah, is, I didn't know that about Wyndham Clark. Does he have a reputation as being a hothead? I mean, I think we all are. If you play this game long enough, this game will just drive you crazy. I've had plenty of moments in my career. I walked off a golf course in Memphis with my shirt literally ripped in half.

So I can speak on this knowing that I myself was somebody who really struggled with failures. So I get it. It's the human element. But there is definitely a line as a professional that I think us, that is a standard really that we're all held to. And I think Wyndham knows he's falling short on it. Rory of course knows that he needs to probably act

a little better too. And I for one don't ever mind throwing clubs, as long as the kids aren't around. If it's just the boys out there and I hit a terrible shot, I don't mind doing a little club toss. I don't think anybody minds it, but these guys are held to a pretty high standard. And the one, I guess that T-Mobile won at the PGA championship comes to mind when the driver comes flying through. I think I talked to you about you guys about the last time I came on. So yeah, it's two times in a row. We've been having the scoop on Rory and Wyndham

with some emotion. Do you think that the USGA are they pumped about how this weekend went? Every golfer's pissed at them. They're all upset. You've got all these outbursts, the guys acting like they're 20 handicappers out there. Is the USGA excited about how this went down?

Are they like, job well done? I think that ending was awesome. Because US Open's PFT, for the most part, there's no like, crowd pops. There's no roars. It's not like the Masters on the back nine where you just have those crazy moments, the big roars. Where's that roar coming from?

Where is it on the course? And you on your couch know, it's like, all right, I'm ready. At the US Open, it's like, 10 footer for par, 10 footer for par. And it's like, nobody fist, I'm ready. At the US Open, it's like 10 footer for par, 10 footer for par. And it's like nobody fist pumping, nobody really knows where they stand in this. But then at the end there, we get those big moments. We get that big moment at 18,

the driver from JJ Spine at 17. So we had a mix of just chaotic bad golf followed by like just insanely good golf at the end. So from USGA's perspective, they have to be elated, especially that it finished in prime time on Sunday night with crazy conditions on an iconic anchor site venue for the USGA. I would probably say it was a home run

and maybe the players will have different perspectives of that or the conditions they played in, but us as a broadcaster and NBC, I'm happy that I get to fly out tomorrow morning. Yeah. It's funny that you mentioned the roar, because at one point, you guys flashed back to the 2008 US Open coverage. And I had it on in a different room. I didn't know when it was going to come back on, when the live play was going

to happen. But I was in a different room, and I heard a roar. I heard the crowd going nuts. And I was like, oh, I don't have to worry. That's not this tournament. Nobody's making huge putts in this tournament. I know that's still the flashback from 2008. Well, PFT, I mean, how many guys were just

taking their annual Sunday snooze, and they wake up, and they're like, holy shit, Tiger Woods is in the tournament now. The amount of people that probably got confused waking up from a Sunday nap, there probably was more than one. Yeah. I got an insanely stupid question. So Oakmont, you say you got to hit the fairways and we saw Bryson. It was actually funny because I think there was that clip of Johnny Miller and Jack Nicholas laughing about Bryson trying to play Bryson ball, not

making the cut where it's like, Hey, you got to hit the fairways. Is it like if it could you hit the fairways? If you take a little off your distance could like, cause these guys are so good. Was there anyone trying that where it's like, Hey, I don't need to hit it three 15. I don't need to hit it three 30. I'm just going to try to hit it to 70, but always hit the fairway. Is that possible to Oakmont or am I completely making it seem simpler than, than it is? Well there was just certain tee shots. You just had to hit the fairway on. Like the first hole was such a difficult hole. Like one comes to mind. Uh, you had the ninth hole and the 15th hole, those three holes, I could argue with

you and say that, yes, taking something off of anything to make sure you hit the fairway was so important because when you missed the fairway, you pretty much were going to make a five. Unless you got up and down from 110 yards. So on those holes, yes, it would have been smart to find something they got in play. But throughout the rest of the golf course, it was,, yes, it would have been smart to find something they got in play. But throughout the rest of the golf course, you know, it was, you know, it played firm-ish Thursday, Friday, it started to firm up and a guy like Bryson DeChambeau and Roy McRoy, these guys, that's the strength of a game. You know, when they hit the fairways with their drivers, it's such a big advantage to

them that they have shorter clubs into the green. So it'd be silly for them not to take advantage of their length on certain holes. And when you go look back at all the other US Open's at Oakmont, Dustin Johnson, he led in driving distance that week. He also hit a lot of his fairways. And then same with Angel Cabrera, led in driving distance, hit a bunch of his fairways, and both of those guys were leading in the greens and regulations stat, which back in 07 with Cabrera, it was very firm. And if we would have had a really firm US Open this year,

no telling what the guys would have shot. I mean, it would have been borderline impossible because of how the severity of these slopes, it's like Augusta National with how sloped it is and I think the greens would have been faster so The fact that we got moisture on this place in the weekend and it's still I guess JJ shot under par like by a miracle But we were looking at a potential over par winter even with rain on the weekend Yeah, so that was dumb question. Well, yeah. Like, are you asking, like, what

if you hit a five iron off the tee every time? I don't know. Like, if you're just like, I can guarantee that I hit it in the fairway, it's not going to, I'm going to do it. That doesn't help you because, like, they tuck this pin. You want to have shorter clubs into these holes to be able to hold the greens. And remember, like, Oakmont, it's so important to have uphill putts. If you're going to be hitting these long irons into the greens, especially with anything that's other than a back pin, like If you're going to be hitting these long irons into the greens, especially with anything that's other than a back pin, you're going to be putting downhill just about at home, which means you're going to be having six footers per par all day. And that's just saying if you're able to hit the greens from far away.

Yeah. So yeah, for a second there, I thought I figured out Oakmont. But yeah, just hit it like 220, just right down the middle every time. You'll be good. I was getting a sense that you were like, just figured out golf in general and that you were just thinking about turning pro. You're like, yeah, I was for a hot second. I was like, hold on a second. You just hit every fairway. I don't know if it was you or somebody else on the broadcast that said it's, it's not even that much better to have an uphill putt because guys are so afraid of putting it past the hole and then leaving themselves a downhill putt that the course is just in your head. The greens are in your head that whole time.

Yeah, it's the fear really of like when you have the uphill putt, in your mind you're thinking yes, this is finally an opportunity. I can be aggressive with one. And then all you're thinking about when you're over it, probably from outside 15 feet is, oh no, I cannot have the four footer coming back. So you constantly saw guys all week basically having the three footer up the hill because they didn't want the comebacker. Yeah. So almost like you want to leave yourself a downhill putt for birdie and then you pretty much guarantee yourself a par. Yeah. I mean, just thinking about JJ Spahn, like the putts that he made at 12 and 14, downhill putts. Those were putts that he just needed to get started online. It wasn't, he was of course focused on like getting it up

around the hole, but he maybe hit that putt on 12. That was about a 40 foot putt. If you would have just done it, like if you're sitting in your office right there, he would have hit it like a three footer. Like that's how hard he hit the putt for a 40 foot putt. That's how downhill that putt is at 12 and then 14, similar from about 20 feet or so. He probably hit that about like a four to five footer.

And really, I think in pressure moments, it's easier to hit downhill putts because you're focused more on just speed and line versus uphill putts thinking about having to hit something. I've heard that said about many great players and many great analysts have always said that and the putt I made in my PGA Tour when it was a downhill putt. And I tend to agree that in big moments, I always seem to make the ones that were the downhill ones. Yeah. All right, Smiley, I got one last question for you. It's a row back question. Thank you for doing this. Awesome. By the way, I think you have the video that's going viral of JJ Spahn's pot. Was that your video that you took? I have no idea. I haven't really got on. Okay, no. Hank's shaking his head. I did

to put out a video, but I'm not sure if it's viral. Because you were standing there. You were standing there. Hank's shaking his head. I was standing there. I got the tail end of it because after he made it I knew Dan Hicks was going to have the call throughout the rest of that. So I wasn't going to come in again. So the only reason I would have come in again is if he would have had like a four or five footer. So after he made it I got my phone out and took a video. That's awesome. Yeah. All right. Rollback question. R.H.O.B.A. B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback.com promo code take. So you are going to the open championship. You guys are covering that NBC sports. Tell us who's

going to win. Just give us the winner right now. All right. Heading into the year, my prediction was to have, I just had a feeling that through happens going to win a major this year. That's my prediction now, but we'll see. I mean had a feeling that Tyrell Haddon is going to win a major this year. That's my prediction now, but we'll see. I mean, it would be cool to see Shane Lowry have a chance to win again at Port Rush and Rory McRoy, of course, too. But I'm going to go with the crazy man at Tyrell Haddon. I'm going to ride that boat.

He's a linksy type of player. Hits it straight, and that's my pick for now. OK. And then I just wanted you to rank this course in terms of the all time hardest courses for US Open golf. Is this number one, or are we going to go? Brooks, he won.

Shinnecock. He won at one over, right, in 2018? Yeah. Shinnecock. Compare this to Shinnecock. I've never been to Shinnecock, actually. We have the US Open there next year, so I wish I could talk more about it. But I just remember the Zach Johnson quote after his round saying that the USGA had lost

the course and how difficult it was there. Shinne's had their moments of being a very difficult place. Wing foot comes to mind. That was an over par finish with Phil Mickelson and Jeff Ogilvie eventually winning where Phil Mickelson made double bogevie eventually winning where Phil Mickelson made double bogey at 18. But Oakmont's got to be up there. It's got to be, if it's not one, it's in the top two or three. So it's always fun knowing when you get to Oakmont, it's going to be a special one.

I shot a 72 at Shinnecock, so it's not that hard. I heard about that by the way. Good point. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. Most of the playing there was with my pencil on scorecard, but yes, I appreciate that. Pretty incredible round by me. Also, can you define for us what is a U.S. Open par? Okay. So a U.S. Open par. That is a good question. So typically it's a... I would have to categorize it as a putt that you make from outside of eight feet and something went wrong before you got to the green.

So whether it was a poor drive or poor second shot and then a nice recovery shot and you make some sort of putt outside of, I would say eight feet, which comes in that 50-50 range, that would be considered a US Open par to keep the momentum going. I like that. I like that. It's because it sounds a lot like every PAR I've ever had in my entire life. Something goes really, really bad and then somehow you luck into a PAR. Me and you, I've played for PAR way too much now. Wait, hey, last question. What, and by the way, everyone go listen to the Smiley Show because he's going to talk about everything

and everything he saw. Why didn't you guys say lightning? Why did you guys keep saying there's electricity in the sky or there's no electricity in the sky? What was the problem with lightning? I don't know, maybe just foreshadowing the electricity at 18. I don't know. I'm just maybe going to throw that out there. It was crazy. Just no one would say lightning. Yeah, I don't know. I think that's just kind of one of those buzzwords that was going around and I was kind of rolling

with it too to where lightning seemed like a cuss word to say. Yeah, I like it. It was crazy. You're like jinxing it. If you say lightning, it feels like you're summoning it. But you said electricity had stayed away. No electricity. It did. And my, yes, I can tell you the electricity stayed away, but the rain did not and my shoes are about to be thrown out here in the next hour. You should frame them, maybe sell them. I don't know. Like these are the shoes that saw JJ Spahn.

I'm never going to forget this one boys. This was like an all-timer. I can't imagine, you know, just the feelings of winning that for JJ Spahn and just that memory for me, just the crowd pop, the people in the stands jumping up yelling. It was an all-timer. All-timer. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Thank you so much, Smiley. You're the best man. Safe travels back home. All right, boys. Go Tigers. We got the College World Series win now. Oh, yeah.

Congratulations. That was a huge win last night. Also Congrats on coach. Oh just bodying that Alabama fan and make a stutter on the street The tide fans they needed every now and then I love how he got buck with him and then he Flipped over into coach Mo. I'm gonna be nice to you mode and then he tried to walk away and he's like nah I gotta go back and let him have a piece of my mind. Yeah That's the defense line coach coming out of him. It's like hey, you're gonna make a mistake here on the line I'm gonna chew you new and then I'm gonna you know teach you a lesson along the way. Yeah I love it. All right. Thanks so much smiley. I was

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Who? He had... Goff is. Goff, Baker over... Geno Smith and Brock Purdy. Yeah. Wait, would this... Also, Brock Purdy had that roster the year before.

That's a good point. That's a really good point. Would this team have to play against the Eagles? No, they'd play on the Eagles. Yeah, yeah. So they wouldn't have to play against the Eagles with Jalen Hurts on the Eagles. He's just saying that Jalen Hurts stinks and anyone could have. I love that everyone still thinks Jalen Hurts sucks because it's just like if everyone thought he was good, he just still will have a chip on his shoulder even though he wants Superbowl MVP. This is just an all time. I'm not owned tweets have June 13th.

Yeah. Four months after the Super Bowl being like, this is absolute bullshit. It's also another way of saying, you know, who's really fucking good is the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah. Yeah. I also, I think someone was like, Hey, didn't you have the, didn't you say the chiefs were going to beat them because they had a better roster? And he had some like, he's like, well, our, our offensive line got hurt. And I had them as a plus roster us as a minus roster it's like well should have been closer then yeah yeah but yeah you gotta you gotta love this though Max yeah I

do I I mean more bulletin board material which is hard to do for a Super Bowl winning team also the best part about playing on the Eagles is you wouldn't have to play against the Eagles defense. Right. Yeah. What did he say? He said, uh, my prediction Super Bowl goes down to the wire. Chiefs win 30 to 27 clutch. Mahomes driving nails, buck or kick. The Eagles play their guts out, but it becomes a coaching passing battle late and they come up short. Philly has the talent to win just in case he has a rare clutch trait. Yeah. Just fanfic. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, that didn't even raise you. That made you happy. Right, Max. Yeah. It's fine with me. I don't give a shit about. I can't wait for what about even Gino Smith. Does that name do anything for you when he said yes. But I, that's, I don't understand why Gino's in tier two over, over Goff and Baker.

It's not tier two. It's the very likely tier. Very likely to also in the decent shots here. Could you imagine to a running the tush push. Oh my gosh. That's just good. That's the part of this fanfic that's so funny. He's like you're just completely ignoring the fact that the tush push is a big part of the Eagles offense. You're like yet to it can run that. Yeah. Ky're like, yeah, two can run that. Yeah, Kyler. Yeah, Kyler's got that.

No problem. Yeah. Yeah. Like Geno Smith, who who like absolutely cannot run that. Kyler would run it. He would turn into an accordion rock. If Kyler tried to run the tour. Yeah. Brock Birdie would be hilarious. OK, whatever. I'm happy you're well. Zach, do you go outside this weekend?

Stay in the house for most of the weekend. We gotta get you outside. We were doing some uh, we pulled the maps over there. I was getting filled in on some hotspots I should walk through during the weekend. Okay, because it was nice out this weekend. Are you staying away from your windows? I'm getting way more comfortable by the windows. So much more comfortable. There was a huge street music festival outside of Zach's apartment and he had no idea that that he was so nice out on Saturday and Sunday So nice, I now know which perfect weather for the festivals Well, it's not gonna be that was a one that was once summer. Yeah. Oh never mind. I miss it

But you still walk that way. Yeah, okay go is playing about a hundred yards from your house on Saturday That's heartbreaking. Do they own hit Old Town Art Fair? No, they moved it up what last summer was like in the middle of the summer. It was this weekend. I know yeah I didn't realize it till today shit all right numbers three 99 oh Dirty dog dirty dog you're gonna try to win with 99 70s that would be an asterix win

You're trying to do an asterix that's the lamest thing ever what would that mean for me what would that mean for memes his legacy? It would it would take his legacy like you know the win man When dog is the most beloved guy on this show in terms of our fans loving pug you would The fans would revolt it would be the dirtiest win ever it'd be like me winning a 50-50 to a game. I didn't go to When no memes protest mugs literally home for his wedding right now When no memes protest mom's literally home for his wedding right now on real All right, wait, what was was your number three I take three what was your number 77 I'll take six I'm a 15. I want 15 55

21 I'll go 13 chaos chaos ensues I go 13 I mean that's clearly oh that would have been awesome are you gonna do let's do one more official number three are you gonna do it again it staying on business 18 oh what a pussy 99 yeah now I'm back to ruin for 96 77 96 16 who's got three? 52 Wow means you one you couldn't hold it for one extra one next time You had the next time but it didn't hit

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