Pardon My Take - Peter Schrager In Studio, Championship Sunday Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

We’re on the road in NYC and there’s been some coaching changes including Doc Rivers and Jim Harbaugh. Is there a chance Bill Belichick doesn’t get a new job (00:00:00-00:18:08)? Championship Su...nday Preview and we talk about Patrick Mahomes vs a great Ravens team plus how much Deebo Samuel Matters (00:18:08-00:41:49). Peter Schrager joins us in studio to talk Championship Sunday, coaching news, team building and what the upcoming draft will look like (00:41:49-01:32:11). We finish with Fyre fest of the week and Max wants us to die in a plane crash (01:32:11-01:47:43).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Peter Schrager from Good Morning Football in person. We're in New York City. You probably are if you're watching on YouTube. You're seeing this and it's like, hey, where are these guys? Well, we are in New York City. We're in one of the pod rooms. Hank is producing. We're going to talk championship Sunday, a little preview for the two big games on
Starting point is 00:00:33 Sunday to see who's going to the big game. You like that? Super Bowl big game going to the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl registered. I'm very excited for that. We have firefest. We're going to talk dock rivers to the, uh, box. The Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. Train mark. Registered. Very excited for that. We have Fire Fest. We're going to talk Doc Rivers to the box.
Starting point is 00:00:48 We got a Great Friday show. One of the last, second to last, penultimate football weekend of the year. Man that's sad. But it's all. Don't forget about the Pro Bowl. That's true. Flag football, baby. The Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Flag football. We are doing this show together with Apple TV. This message comes from Master of the Air on Apple TV plus from the executive producers behind Band of Brothers in the Pacific comes the next masterpiece about the pilots who fought in the skies against Hitler in World War II. This is PFT show. Austin Butler takes flight in the nine episode limited series. It's a thrilling and emotional epic that is not to be missed. I actually think this this show is so up your alley PFT. I wouldn't be surprised if you did like a dream board like a couple years ago about this show. I did yeah I had Kyle Sloder piloting one of the aircraft besides that it's
Starting point is 00:01:36 uh man it sounds awesome I can't wait. I will be you know what I think planes are having a moment. They are. You had Top Gun Maverick. You've got this. You're Boeing. You've got that lady that got kicked off for farting on the plane Mm-hmm. So a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff about planes recently on this podcast Yes, people who have been on planes. Yes, so this show is gonna be awesome. I cannot wait It is out on January 26th, which is right now when you're listening to this. So go check it out. Apple TV Plus experienced Masters of the Air only on Apple TV Plus. Now streaming, go watch it.
Starting point is 00:02:12 We're gonna watch it. Probably talk about it because it's gonna be an unbelievable show. Masters of the Air, it is a show about pilots flying over the skies against Hitler in World War II. Masters of the Air only on Apple TV Plus now streaming. Okay, let's go. It's part of my take. There's an episode sports. Welcome to part of my take.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Today is Friday, January 26th, and Henry Lockwood is producing this show. Throwback. Yeah, we're in a little throwback state. We're in New York City. We were traveling Wednesday night. We have Ruffin Rowdy coming up tonight. If you buy it or you're going to see this afterwards, you can still buy it all weekend. But Hank, it's a throwback. When was the last time you fully produced the show?
Starting point is 00:03:36 It's been a while, probably. Oh, probably a year. Are you in charge of pressing the button? I'm not in charge of pressing the button. I'm just, yeah, I'm recording the show. We're sending all the files back to Chicago and Max will be editing the show. Do you remember, Hank? Like I actually think about it, how crazy it was that you did all the producing
Starting point is 00:03:58 and editing of this show for how long? Two, three years? Alone, probably three years. Jesus Christ. Like thinking about back when we would do the Sunday episodes and it would be one in the morning it was just Hank. He's just like, I gotta just grind this whole thing. The craziest was when we did the first group week tour and I was the only one that really
Starting point is 00:04:17 knew how to operate the bus. So I was also like taking care of the bus. And then we would do interviews. You're pretty sure. And I would film them, record the audio, and do all that stuff. That was bad. You don't have credit. You would also have to empty the septic tank on the bus.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah, sometimes, you know, max, max of memes, I feel like they give me a little bit of like, you don't do shit around here. And I'm like, back in my day, like I was doing all this on my own. Like they sometimes try and make me feel bad for like, you know, when I leave, I'm like, all right, see you guys. And I can feel that like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:04:49 The resentment, yeah. On the first one. And in my head, I'm like, I don't feel bad at all. One second. I remember we would show up to places for an interview and we'd tell the people, I think we said this to, who was the coach that we interviewed at Youngstown? Tressel, when we like go into Tressel's office,
Starting point is 00:05:04 we're like, yeah, we need about five minutes to get our cameras and stuff set up and Hank would just give us this look like what you fucking assholes. We don't need five minutes. We need it's just me carrying everything. You're right, though, Hank, they should not give you any guff. Have any resentment. This podcast was built on the blood, sweat and tears of one Henry Lockwood. And also in the blood, sweat and tears of me and Big Cat having to call Henry Lockwood at one o'clock in the morning to wake him up. Throw that.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So that he could record the show. That was once. I went on a boat. It was one time. He went on a boat on a Saturday. All right. So we're here in New York, a little bit different. We're going to talk about conference championship. We do have our friend, Peter Schrager, in person, which is great. We get to catch up with him before we get into the games in the NFL this weekend. We should talk a little bit about the other sports that are going on.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Doc Rivers, officially the Milwaukee Bucks head coach. I it's weird because they ESPN got rid of Jeff Van Gundy. Doc Rivers is like, yeah, I'm in. I'm ready. And then what? Halfway through the season, he's back in coaching. And the Celtics got Jeff Van Gundy. Doc Rivers is like, yeah, I'm in. I'm ready. And then what halfway through the season, he's back in coaching. And the Celtics got Jeff Van Gundy and the Celtics got wheat. He's like a special assistant. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, he's like an advisor type role. Oh, yeah. Doc Rivers just kind of installed himself from being an advisor to now head coach. Yeah, I feel bad for Adrian Griffin. I feel really bad for him. Like you work your entire life as a coach to get a job coaching an NBA team. And they fire you after what 43 games.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And you have a good record. I feel bad for him. Obviously, it wasn't working out to the point that they wanted whether they in second place in the conference. They're currently in second place. Yeah, I feel bad for him. They they're kind of like blaming him for the lack of defense on the box, which do you know what happened in the off season? Do you remember the the personnel change? Yeah, true holiday. Yeah. And you got Dame, not exactly a lockdown, lockdown perimeter defender.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And then you bring in a first year coach and you're like, yeah, we're going to fire you because this advisor behind the scenes has been telling us that he wants to be a coach. And then I don't know if you saw the reports that Woj was doing on ESPN, on Sports Center. They were like, Woj, can you talk us through how this whole situation played out behind the scenes? Woj spent like three hours going on various shows, refining his message over and over again. I saw the first one that he did.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And he was stumbling all over himself because he was like, yeah. And then after they decided to make the move on from Griff, at that point, then the Bucks front office made contact with Doc Rivers agent, yeah, to discuss and things have just gone really quickly since then. And then by the end of it, he had down to a science where he was like, yeah, you know, the representative from Doc Rivers made contact with the Bucks at this time he had like the timeline nailed down. Doc Rivers was running this whole thing behind his scenes.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Correct. So the only reason I don't feel bad for Adrian Griffin and the Doc Rivers part is like he was kind of set up to fail the fact they brought in Doc Rivers and he had his eyes on coaching that team probably from the first second he walked in the facility. But the only reason I don't feel bad for Adrian Griffin and I might be minimizing the job of a coach in the NBA, but his only job was to make Janus like him. And maybe Janus never gave him a shot.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Maybe Janus was just never going to like him. But if you could just get Janus to like you, you do you won't get fired. And so whatever like he should have like he should have been like, forget scheme, forget how I'm gonna coach, just become Yanis' best friend and I will at least have a shot. Yeah, I would imagine that Yanis was asked about this transaction.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I would say that all the reports is they didn't really see eye to eye from the jump. But I still feel bad for him. Yeah. Like as a person that you- Oh, and you gotta remember he's got probably a family, they gotta move. They gotta change schools. Yeah. Millions of dollars but that doesn't buy. Yeah. You know. He still gets paid right. He still gets paid probably if they win the championship he gets a ring. He should get a ring. He should absolutely get a ring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I do. I feel bad for the guy just on a human level having that happen behind the scenes. I think you're probably right that if Giannis liked him, right? If he was a disappointing head coach, let's say they were in like fourth, fifth place in the conference, but Yanis liked them, they probably would not make this move because they're thinking the back of their heads, we gotta do, we gotta keep this guy happy. Right. If you want to keep your job in the NBA for a couple of years, you can either one, be so good that they can't fire you or two, make the star of the team love you. So I feel like I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe like, I think I could become best friends with
Starting point is 00:09:28 the honest if you gave me a shot. You think so? Yeah. She's like, whatever you want, the honest, whatever offense you want to run, whatever you want to do, I would just do what you want to do. He and I would simply go to, to raising canes every day and order 50 chicken tenders.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Exactly. Like, Hey, Yonis, you got any other siblings you want on the team? Yeah. Let me know. I can get everyone your son son you want to put him on the team cool done Yeah, no problem. So yeah, that was the big news We also had in coaching Jim Harbaugh has officially been named the coach of the San Diego Chargers I did say San Diego Chargers because he played there and I feel like that is just they should like
Starting point is 00:10:02 They should be the San Diego Chargers because it's not really like Jim Harbaugh coming home when it's the LA Chargers. We had the fun wrinkle of the famous Chargers. Man, I got to find my wife. I'm so hungry for some P.F. Chang's tweet that the Chargers account of people don't know. The Chargers Twitter account in like 07 was just run by a guy who would just do his personal tweets. A lot of tweets about P.F. Chang's fun wrinkle. Jim Harbaugh met his wife in a parking lot at a P.F. Chang's. I love that. Time is a flat circle. Time is a flat circle. So maybe that was Jim Harbaugh running the account. I think Jim Harbaugh will be in a Super Bowl within the next five years with the Charger. So Harbaugh is a great coach, a great NFL coach.
Starting point is 00:10:46 There's like a clock that you have to put on Harbaugh and we love him, but if you are like a GM, if you're another football guy in that front office, Harbaugh and you will probably get along really well for the first couple of years, then there will be an incident and Harbaugh will not like you anymore because you're not enough of a football guy for him. And then after a while, things are probably not going to end fantastically out there when it doesn't. But you definitely have like a four or five year span where you guys are going to be an awesome football team and hardball is going to be a very, very good head coach.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And I think actually like I think you'll have more time this time. It depends on how they structure it with like does hardball get to call the shots GM wise, because that was the big thing in the Niners. He had the power struggle with the GM and that's kind of with Trent Balkie and that kind of fell apart. I just think that once he starts winning which he will do, I think his his career NFL record is like over 70%. Yeah, it is. He will win. Justin Herbert will look good. They will go deep
Starting point is 00:11:43 into the playoffs and winning cures all. And if there is one franchise that Jim Harbaugh could change like how we perceive them, the chargers, whether it be toughness, injuries, like just bad luck, it's Jim Harbaugh. Like he's going to make them a tough team instantly. And Justin Herbert's a very good quarterback. So yeah, start the clock. Five years I say. Five years he will be at least in a Super Bowl. It's hard to win a Super Bowl once
Starting point is 00:12:09 you get there. He will be in a Super Bowl within five years. Also, it's nice that Jim Harbaugh is trying to fulfill the prophecy of winning a Super Bowl so that not only can he sit at the big kids table but he can have one over his brother. We played the old clip of when we had John on and he was talking about how Jim Harbaugh would just hold his head underwater. When they were adults, they would wrestle in the ocean and he would hold his head underwater and he could feel that that was maybe because of the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think that there was definitely it had an impact on
Starting point is 00:12:39 Harbaugh deciding to go to the Chargers, the fact that they play the Ravens next year. Yeah, I think Harbaugh saw that and he's like, yeah, you know what? I want my revenge ASAP against my brother. And the press release was pretty great that the Chargers put out. Just said Jim Harbaugh's football personified. Yeah, they were doing some great tweets. Yeah, he is a football.
Starting point is 00:12:59 He wants to he's told us many times all he wanted to do from the very young age was play football until he can't play football. He wants coach football. then he wants to die. Yeah. He probably wants to be buried inside of a football. Yes. As a coffin. Just like get. Chocolate football for everyone. Yeah. Maybe get like 30 footballs and just put his ashes in all those and then throw him out into the ocean.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I'm jealous. I'm jealous of the Chargers. He will fix them right away. Now, Michigan, it's weird that people are like, he's leaving a mess in Michigan. I get it because of the NCAA and there might be some sanctions coming. He just won a national title. He beat Ohio State three years in a row. If you're a Michigan fan, you sign up for that 100 times out of 100, no matter what happens after this. You just won your first like outright national title since 1948. I think every single fan base would be like, yep, sign me up. OK, we got sanctions. Oh, we're going to suck for a few years. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Who cares? Mission accomplished, mission accomplished. Hang the banner. He did what he was brought in to do. And congrats to Congrats to Michigan. You're probably pretty happy for a Michigan fan. Like you're not happy that he left, obviously. But the way things worked out, you make that trade every single time. Yep. It's definitely worth it for you guys. And I think he finishes three and one against Ryan Day, possibly, obviously, but the way things worked out, you make that trade every single time. Yep. It's definitely worth it for you guys.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And I think he finishes three and one against Ryan Day possibly because I know he couldn't beat Urban. Uh, I think it was three and five overall. It might actually be three and oh against Ryan Day because it canceled the COVID year. Uh, but either way, you have that over like Jim Harbaugh can be like, I did it. Like I, I, I, I came back. It took a little bit longer than I expected, but we beat the fuck out of Ohio
Starting point is 00:14:26 state every single year and we won the national title. Fantastic football coach. And it's going to be interesting to see how, how the chargers deal with Patrick Mahomes because he might be the best quarterback of all time. They're going to just have to beat them. They're just going to have to beat Patrick Mahomes. Do you think that's part of the application process for somebody that's going to the AFC West? Like what's your plan to take care of this guy? It is great that Harbaugh, like,
Starting point is 00:14:48 because when we're talking to different people, being like, what job is most attractive, it's like, well, you don't want to be in the AFC because of, you know, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, CJ Stroud, all these guys are gonna be good for the next 10 years. You really don't want to be in the AFC West West and Harbaugh's like, bring it. Yeah. Fucking bring it. Human Body Craves contact. AFC West, great coaches out there.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Great coaches. And yeah, I'm very excited to see how his return is to the NFL. NFL is better when you've got Jim Harbaugh coaching in it. He gets people amped up. He's gonna get the city amped up. I'm interested to see what he's gonna, how he's gonna deal with being like the little brother in their own stadium
Starting point is 00:15:28 Do they get are they not building? No, they're not I'm thinking of the Clippers They're not building a new stadium He's gonna he's gonna be pretty upset when he walks in and he sees like all this ram shit everywhere Yeah, he's gonna have to we're gonna have to put up some Chargers stuff He might be the one who could bring back the Chargers to San Diego. He might bring back Boltman. Yeah I also I just want to say I need an update on how that Chargers to San Diego. He might bring back Boltman. Yeah. I also, I just want to say. I need an update on how that Chargers fans doing right now.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah. The plant. He's probably very excited. Oh, the plant. Yeah. Yeah. She's going crazy. She's not.
Starting point is 00:15:56 She's crying. I know that there's a lot of fake news, Twitter accounts, people reporting stuff like the weird football, you know, like football insider Twitter account or whatever. NFL rumors, NFL notifications did say we've been told that Jim Harbaugh had real interest in coaching Kale Williams in Chicago. GM Ryan Poles decided to run it back with Matt Eberfluss and Harbaugh ended up in LA.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I know this is probably fake, but it still hurts my feelings. I just want it on the record. It should. It hurts my feelings. It should. I mean, imagine, imagine Caleb and Harbaugh together. Pretty good. Man. Man. Alright, anything else before we get to the games? The Falcons are interviewing
Starting point is 00:16:33 everyone. You have Ray Boen, Belichick are going for the same head coaching job. And yeah, and slow it. I am my four year old son Chris and Blake are tracking Arthur Smith's jets. Okay. And it's kind of a weird thing because they've also interviewed the defense coordinator for the for the Panthers. But they flew out, they picked up Vrable, flew him to Atlanta, and then they put him back on their jet and they flew him to his next interview with Carolina. Well, that actually that actually makes sense
Starting point is 00:17:03 because like no one wants to Carolina job. So they're like, yeah, fine, we'll treat you so well. Like we don't care. You can go talk to them. Yeah, you it's you one that's like marginally bigger and like holy fuck this is a lot of space yeah like they they just that's all perspective like yeah no problem go you could you can go you can even put on a panthers hat you can go pretend to be on that team you're not gonna want to stay there yeah i'm gonna show you this penthouse and then i'm gonna take you in my Mercedes coupe that i drive for all the appointments i'm gonna take you to the worst slum in New York City. Go check this one out, enjoy the cockroaches. Let us know how it goes. Let us know when you wanna come back for a second visit.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I'm not too worried about that. No one else is interviewing Belichick though. Well, yeah, so we're gonna have Shreya Grunt. So we'll ask him like, is there a chance Belichick doesn't get a job this year? I'm gonna have to ask him that. We'll get into all that because that that will be very interesting if he doesn't get a job this year.
Starting point is 00:18:10 OK, let's get into some games. Championship Sunday. I fucking love Championship Sunday so much. Just the idea of teams punching their ticket to the Super Bowl. It is brought to you by our friends at Super Cuts, picks in preview segment. You want a free haircut after this year's big game. Well, if the big games final score meets or beat 75 points, you could win a free haircut at Supercuts.
Starting point is 00:18:33 They're running a deal. Why 75 because Supercuts has been cutting America's hair since 1975. And 75 just so happens to be the highest ever score of the big game. Was that Eagles Patriots? I feel like that was 75, right? 41, 33. Yeah. Seventy seven four. So what was it? Can we look up what the actual game was?
Starting point is 00:18:55 So we're looking for the over on the Supercut. Twenty eight to three. Supercuts or twenty two. Supercuts high score of seventy five points for the chance to catch free cuts at Supercuts Salons nationwide. Head to Supercuts high score dot com to register read the terms and conditions and for eligibility. It had to have been one of the Cowboys blowouts right.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Forty nine. Samples. Oh San Francisco over San Diego. Yes. Jerry Rice went off. Natrons means business. January ninety five. Steve Young getting Rice went off. Natrons means business. January 95. Steve Young getting the monkey office back.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah. Okay. So head over right now, supercuts, get your haircut and root for that on the big game Sunday, 75 points since they've been cutting hair since 1975. Head to supercuts, highscore.com to register, read the terms and conditions and for eligibility. This is just basically a free bet. So go check it out right now. Head to supercuts, highscore.com to register, read the terms and conditions and for eligibility, this is just basically a free bet. So go check it out right now at the supercuts highscore.com to register. Okay, boys, championship Sunday.
Starting point is 00:19:53 The Kansas A Chiefs are going to Baltimore. The first ever championship game in Baltimore, in Raven's history, which is pretty crazy. A team that's won two Super Bowls in the last 25 years is hosting their first AFC Championship game. Also the first time since 2017 that the AFC Championship game won't be in Kansas City, which is just a wild thing to just think about that it was five years in a row that it was just like, yep, they'll have the AFC Championship game. How are we feeling about this game? I feel like the Ravens are the better team, but it's Patrick Moems. That's exactly what it comes out. That's my analysis.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It's it's Patrick Moems versus the entire city of Baltimore right now. Correct. They're bringing back the legends. You're going to have Ed Reid there. You're going to have Ray Lewis there. Jonathan Ogden is going to be the captain. Michael Phelps is dropping off the game ball. Hell, yes. You've got Stavi. Tarell. Yeah, Stavi, baby.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Ronnie, you mean Ronnie? Ronnie. You've done that. It's going to be there. They're going to have Tarell Suggs, who said that he's going back. Didn't Tarell Suggs also play for the Chiefs? Oh, I think you might have. That was late. That might be an all time. Like, I can't believe this guy played for this team.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah. But yeah, it's going to be Baltimore against Patrick Mahomes and Baltimore is a better team. Twenty nineteen Chiefs. Twenty nineteen Cardinals. Oh, that's weird. That's really weird. Yeah, that's weird. That's really weird Yeah, it's it's basically the entire Ravens franchise against against Patrick Mahomes because they're the better defense of the better Overall offense. Yep, but they don't have Patrick. They have the MVP, but they don't have Patrick Patrick Mahomes and it's
Starting point is 00:21:27 Hank sorry to bring up Tom Brady here, but it does feel like that type of game where we could I In my heart of hearts, I do think the Ravens is a better team. They're gonna win on Sunday But if we're sitting here on Sunday night and we're like the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl again It's gonna be very similar to a Tom Brady. Like how do they do it? Oh, yeah, Patrick were Holmes Oh, yeah, Tom Brady. Like there's no explanation for it It's just Patrick Holmes somehow had the ball late and who was able to drive them down and win the game And if you're Ravens fan, that has to just be keeping you up at night because again, I do think they all around more rest Better they're healthier. The chief's got a bunch of injuries in the you know, Joe Thune He might not play which is gonna be huge in terms of pressure up the middle. Like it doesn't matter though, because it's Patrick Holmes.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And if he does play, that's a pretty significant injury for an officer lineman to be dealing with. Yeah, he's got the strain, which means like partially strain peck, peck muscle, which you use a lot if you play offensive line, obviously. They also have gay. Gay is hurt, hurt, not injured, but he's going to try to play But it's like a stinger in his neck. It's a neck situation which might impact him And that's he's going to be a big factor because he's the spy. Yeah So he's going to spy Lamar Jackson and if which doesn't really work with Lamar Jackson It doesn't but it's good to it's good to have the spy there
Starting point is 00:22:40 You need to spy and then you need to like do a Hybrid spy and then just let him loose. Yeah. Because it's if you if you spy Lamar Jackson, he will just stand there. And then when he wants to move, you're going to be like flat footed. Oh, fuck, where am I going? How can I, you can't spy him. The only way you just need him, right? You need a player that's as fast as Lamar, right spy to counter Lamar and as good runner. But if they have to go to a backup, I do think it's going to impact a little bit. It's, yeah, and it's,
Starting point is 00:23:09 I think the Ravens will be able to run the ball. I think that's their key is because the chief secondary is pretty damn good with Snead and McDuffie. Like they've done a very good job. And I think maybe just run the ball down their throat. You saw the bills have a little success with that. And then on the other side, you just have to hope that Patrick Mahomes doesn't just,
Starting point is 00:23:29 he isn't just what he has been his whole career, which is the best quarterback in the world. Yeah, cause I do think the Ravens defense is gonna give a lot more of a fight than we saw from the bills or the dolphins. And like, we're a little skewed because you have to play the game in your head like we saw the Chief's offense be broken for the majority of the regular season then they get to the playoffs and it looks like they're fine because
Starting point is 00:23:54 they played is it because Patrick Holmes is in the playoffs and he's like we're just gonna I'm just gonna elevate my game and elevate everyone around me or Was it the dolphins are really injured? The bills are really injured. Could the chief's offense still be slightly broken when they play a real defense? So they got last week, they got the MBS game. MBS played really well. I don't know if that's just who he is as a player now. I doubt it. I think that's as good as you can expect him to play. I feel like without him playing to that level, they're not going to be able to beat the Ravens. Yes Yes So it's like, can you can this guy catch lightning in a bottle if you look at his hands? Probably not. Yes also the Ravens we should note because
Starting point is 00:24:33 There are levels to this the Ravens have played a lot of playoff teams this year I think there's something like eight and one against playoff teams and they've killed them all pretty much like they have I think the Browns that one loss is the Browns game member where everything kind of got freaky and they're up 14 Steelers. Oh yeah that's right so they've lost it too yeah that was also a game where they just Ravens dropped everything so that yeah that's a possibility it went to overtime against the Rams that was a close one yeah but they they beat the Texas made the playoff They killed the Lions who obviously are in the NFC championship game. You know, they killed the 49ers. They killed the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:25:11 We'll see. I don't I just patch my homes in the back of your head. Hypothetically, like obviously, Patrick Mahomes crazy quarterback to ever walk the earth. No, we did not say that. Get him as plus money in the playoffs. I think we said on track. He's on track to be in the conversation. What? How does the conversation change hypothetically if they lose by 10 plus? I'm not here to have hypothetical
Starting point is 00:25:31 discussions about this. Hank. Well, Brady lost in the conference championship game. Patrick Holmes is eight and three straight up in his career as an underdog. Hank, to answer your question, Hank, to answer your question, I Patrick Holmes is not as good as Tom Brady yet. He's not like there's no debate on like if Patrick Holmes retired tomorrow, there is no debate. It's the path that he's on that you have to at least admit. I have admitted that. Right. I like that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:01 But yeah, Tom Brady lost championship games. Not until he won three Super Bowls. You mean that's true. So after he won three. You lose a playoff game until he won three Super Bowls. He also didn't go to the playoffs the second year after winning one Super Bowl. Patrick Reynolds just goes to AFC.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And then what do you do the next two years? You won two Super Bowls. This would be the first back to back since then, right? Yeah, it would. It's very hard to go back-to-back. Yeah. I just, you have to admit that it's just, it is like repeating itself in terms of like this guy, there's, it's very rare that you can sit here like we've been saying before
Starting point is 00:26:40 this game. He is the prince in waiting, but he hasn't been crowned yet. Correct. I feel like people are like, oh well., but he hears why he is on this path is because what we've just said for the last 10 minutes, the Ravens are the better team. But Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. So that's where that's in like, that's an actual argument to be made. I also am very excited to see Steve Spagnola versus Lamar Jackson,
Starting point is 00:27:01 because it feels like they can't blitz as much as the Texans. But Spagnola is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league and it's going to be a great chess match. Chess matches all over the field. On both sides too because then you've got McDonald, Mike McDonald, the coordinator for the Ravens against Patrick Mahomes. Yes. Chess matches ever against Andy Reed.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. It's actually funny when you think about it. It's it's the it's the meme when the the Marines or whatever army guys are lined up and there's one clown. So it's like Mike McDonald, Todd Munkin, John Harbaugh, Andy Reed, Steve Spagnola, Matt Nagy. Yeah, he's a clown. That's the one guy who doesn't fit in in those six coaches that are all incredible coaches. According to Mike Florio, the stone of the dozen smoke weed, clown. That's the one guy who doesn't fit in in those six coaches that are all incredible coaches. According to Mike Florio, the stoner that doesn't smoke weed, he thinks that BNM might
Starting point is 00:27:49 be giving some advice, some consulting to the Chiefs. And that's why the Chiefs offense has improved. Oh, I like that. I actually just made that extra nugget up because I like imagining a reason for the Chiefs offense to flip that switch. Derek, BNM. But Florio was saying if they make the Super Bowl, they could bring B. enemy and to be a consultant. I personally would just like to say I think that what's been happening two things. One, Eric B. enemy has been providing
Starting point is 00:28:12 secrets behind the scenes to Kansas City offense to improve them. And also Connor Stallions has been helping Harbaugh out after he had to be let go from Michigan. So he's helping John Harbaugh and the Ravens defense, especially figure out the offensive signals. I could see. It's a fan fiction bowl. Yeah, I could see John Harbaugh like hiring Connor Stallions to like come up with stuff and then just not using any of the reports.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Just being like, I want to make sure that he's working for us and no one else. Or Jim Harbaugh probably told Connor Stallions, hey, go help my brother out, go help him win another Super Bowl or get as far as they can, but also write down every fucking thing that happens. Ravens. Yes. And then I'm bringing you with me to Los Angeles and you're going to help me beat my brother next year. Yes. I like that legal for me
Starting point is 00:28:56 to work for two teams at once. Well, he's not easy under contract. Right. He is. He is currently our offensive coordinator. Got it. So that's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. Legal, I don't know. I've just become kind of jaded to the fact that a bunch of shady dealings happen all the time that are kind of outside the scope of what is legal and what is not in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And so I feel like if he really wanted to, if Andy Reed called, he would answer the phone. Correct. Correct. All right. Do you have a nerd nugget? Yes. For the chiefs, quarterback Patrick Mahomes is 38 career
Starting point is 00:29:27 playoff passing touchdowns are sixth most in NFL history. And if he throws three in this game, he would pass Peyton Manning and join the top five for most postseason passing touchdowns. It's crazy considering. Still feels like Mahomes is so early in his career and he's already on the verge of passing Peyton Manning playoffs. And for the guy, Peyton Manning was a choker in the playoffs for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:29:46 At least still won a few Super Bowls. Yeah, but he, remember, he was a choker for a very long time until he won a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. My Murd nugget of the week is that Ray Lewis is going to be a legendary honoree of the game in Baltimore this weekend.
Starting point is 00:29:58 OK. For the Ravens, with last week's win, they now have 17 playoff wins since 2000, most in the NFL for teams not named the Patriots. And you mentioned all the good teams they've beaten 10 wins this season against teams that won records, the most in any team in NFL history. That was a set. Yeah. That's a good stat. That's the Ravens have like when we when we talk frauds and everything,
Starting point is 00:30:17 the Ravens have played very good competition and they have beat and destroyed a lot of it. OK. Lions at Niners, Lions at Niners. Lions at Niners. Our boy, Jared Goff, cracked a few jokes on the podium. The reporter was like, you've got some very good players. Hold on, let's do it, let's replay it. I'll be the reporter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:37 You've got some really good players on your team. Thank you. You know, maybe not the superstars that everyone knows like the Niners. Okay, never mind. It was awesome. That was, that was insane. Just punked him. you know, maybe not the superstars that everyone knows like the Niners. OK, never mind. It was awesome. It was that was that was insane.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Just punked him. He was a great delivery by him to try to talk shit about his teammates like that. No, no, no, Jared's a good teammate. Jared's a good quarterback. I cannot root for the Niners this weekend, unfortunately. I am I'm rooting for George Kittle. You have to you have to be able to put aside your preexisting fandoms and be like, you know what? Detroit needs this.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Detroit needs it. There's such a good story. Like, how can you root against Dan Campbell? Division rival. I've already been through this. I I'm not rooting against them. Like, I might be like, fuck Detroit. They made it to the Super Bowl, but I can't.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I told you, I've I've reached my limit. But you would be happy if they admitted to the Super Bowl. I'd be happy for my friends who were Alliance fans and Detroit Don and Super Fan, because we'd be buying them tickets to the Super Bowl, so I would be happy for them. Super Bowl week would be fun, and I don't hate the Niners, I like the Niners.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I think that they're a great team, I think they're probably, you know, they're favored for a reason. The one thing that makes me a little bit nervous if you are betting on the Niners is we don't know what's gonna happen Debo. So and their offense is so much Debo Samuel has the impact on their offense like most quarterbacks have on their offense. 49ers are 12-1 straight up in 10-3 against the spread when Debo Samuel starts and finishes the game. They are 1-4 straight up in 0-5 against the spread when he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:32:04 They are one and four straight up and oh and five against the spread when he doesn't The 49ers record when Debo Samuel gets at least one target when he gets at least one target They're 44 and 13 straight up when he doesn't they're nine and ten straight up. It's crazy It is that that when we look back at that Packers Niners game That is way more significant than the rain and like how how Brock Purdy looked is losing Debo Samuel. And I know people will be like, well, that just proves the point that he's a system quarterback. Who cares? Debo Samuel is that good. He's that much of a game changer. If he's not playing, the Lions are as live as live could be. So after talking to Chris Long about like the two levels of quarterbacks that we can have the elite conversation and the game manager, I just think
Starting point is 00:32:42 that Purdy is an elite game manager. Yeah, that's a good one. And that's fine. That's that's lovely. That's a great that's a wonderful thing to have for your team, especially if you have a really talented team with like five impact players and offense. If you have an elite game manager, guess what? The game is going your game is great, and it will be managed really well. Yes, I do think the Lions are going to be able to run the ball. In this game, I want to see some man football at a Dan Campbell. I'm nervous about the Lions secondary, especially if Debo Samuel plays because the way the Lions play defense is from my friends in sports info solutions. They play a lot of middle middle field open coverage, so cover zero command cover to cover to Brock Purdy is the best quarterback
Starting point is 00:33:26 against that type of defense and it makes sense dicing up guys going across the middle like hitting guys with timing all these things getting ball to kiddle and then letting kiddle run for like 45 yards running through motherfuckers face right Christian McCaffrey coming out of the backfield catching passes so it will be interesting to see though, if the Niners who are a very good running team going up against the number one rush defense in the Lions, it feels like not to be cliche.
Starting point is 00:33:54 This game can be one in the trenches. Oh, I like that. Yeah, old school football. Right. It's like if the Niners can run the ball and they can somehow stop the Lions from running the ball as effective as they've been all season. It feels like the Niners have a huge, huge advantage.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And if the reverse happens, it's game on Lions. I'm concerned that you, Shuck, isn't going to be geared up for this game because he's going to be he's going to be online gassing up his wife for whatever Taylor Swift wears to the Baltimore Simp of the Year. Simp of the Year. By the way, can you imagine loving your wife that much? How gay is that? I was on Pittsburgh radio this morning and the guys had a good idea. Taylor Swift should not go to the game this weekend because if she doesn't go to the game and they lose, she can be like, I was
Starting point is 00:34:37 the I was actually the lucky charm here. If they go to the game and win, it's going to be the big story in Vegas anyway. No one will kind of remember that she was not at the game in Baltimore. Also going from Bill's fans to Baltimore fans, a little bit of a difference. Bill's are crazy, but they're also lovable. And they welcome people, they welcome people with open arms. I don't feel like Baltimore fans do the same. I don't know if they'd welcome people with open arms. I don't know if Buffalo... Well, Jason open arms. I don't know if Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Jason Kelsey was just partying with all of them. I don't think that Buffalo welcomed Taylor with open arms. I think they woke, you have to take your shirt off to be welcomed with open arms and Buffalo, like Fitzpatrick. Unfortunately, Taylor thought that was beneath her to do that. And her hat off during the National Anthem. Yeah, kept that on.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Allegedly. Allegedly. Well, Minci reports. That motherfucker doesn't miss either. Ben Mence has years on the ground everywhere, but I don't know. I feel like Baltimore. They got an edge. They got an I like it.
Starting point is 00:35:33 They got an edge to him for sure. But I don't know that. I don't think she's going to miss. I think she's going to be there. OK, I'm just saying it wouldn't it wouldn't be the dumbest thing to just skip this one. Because like like I said, if I get to the Super Bowl, it's like, well, it's Taylor Swift's Super Bowl. And if they lose, you can be like,
Starting point is 00:35:49 you needed me at every game. The NFL definitely wants you there. Yes. It was like the most watched TV event ever. It's, they absolutely want them there. Yeah. Okay. Anything else from this game? I got something.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Oh yeah, Nerd Nugget. Do do do do. Oh. Nerd Nugget of the week. Okay. On Sunday, the Detroit Lions are aiming for the first playoff win since 1957 when they beat the San Francisco 49ers. Yes. Detroit would then go on to beat the Cleveland Browns in the NFL championship game, who would then relocate in 1996 to become the Baltimore Ravens. Is this assigned to Lions will once again beat the Ravens in the Super Bowl? Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:26 What about the Super Bowl logo stuff? Yeah. The Super Bowl logo is Ravens and Chiefs. So for the past two years, the colors of the logo have corresponded pretty closely to the teams that end up making the Super Bowl. I think that every time I look at those logos, I just look at the old ones
Starting point is 00:36:42 and I'm like, those are so much better. Bring back the old Super Bowl logos that had like an identity that had personality to them. Yeah, they've been sanitized Also, there's a bunch of red teams and a bunch of purple teams. It's also true. So what do you mean? Like they're saying it's for the Vikings the Vikings Lot of red teams. Yeah, I guess that's a pretty quick. Yeah, there's a lot of red teams. Yeah. I believe in that shit. You think Roger Godel before the season, he's like, you know what? I'm going to it's time to examine the logos for the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:37:14 They'll never pick up on this. I'm going to make them the exact colors of the teams that are going to be in there. Will you admit that Patrick Holmes is on the Tom Brady path if he beats the Super Bowl logo thing? Yeah. Yeah. Because that's big. That's significant. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I'm just so so. Oh, you taking the Ravens? I don't think I'm going to bet it because I've been so bad and it would just be doubly painful. But I think the ratings smoke them. How much actually, you know what? We'll ask Peter Strager about this. But I always wonder because smoke them. How much actually, you know what? We'll ask Peter Schrager about this,
Starting point is 00:37:45 but I always wonder, because Aaron Glenn and. Who got in? Ben Johnson are doing a bunch of interviews. How much that actually, it has to affect you a little bit. It's a shitty rule. I thought they used to not do that. Yeah, I know. You shouldn't have.
Starting point is 00:37:55 The Patriots coaches weren't allowed to interview, I remember, until after the Super Bowl, or until the in between week before the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, the coordinators doing interviews right before the biggest games of their careers doesn't it doesn't feel right because you're you're basically taking an interview for the biggest job of your life and you have nerves.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You got to get prepared and it's that's has to take away hours from getting ready for the game. If I were a coach, I would in somebody was was interviewing me to see if I want to be a head coach somewhere. I'd be like, OK, so I didn't prepare for this interview at all because I'm laser focused on winning the NFC Championship game. Hired. And then as known, I'd be like, that mother f***er. Hired. Yeah, we want that guy. Yeah, I'm not even going to take this interview. If you want me, you can wait. Yeah. I care about my team so much. Yep. Care about the guys. I've got one more thing on the Niners, quarterback Brock Purdy is the fifth quarterback in NFL history to win a playoff game in each of his first two seasons. Can you guys name the other four?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Wait, say it again. A playoff quarterback in NFL history to win a playoff game in each of his first two seasons. Mark Sanchez. Yep. Andrew Luck, Joe Flacco. Yep. Uh, Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Not Brady. Oh yeah, because this is the second season. Yeah. Flacco, Big Ben, Mark Sanchez. And one more. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We patched my home because he wasn't technically his first two seasons. What? Russell Wilson. Oh, Russell Wilson. I say Andrew Luck might have said that. Oh, you said that. Yeah. He won his first year and that come back against the chiefs. Oh, no, no, they lost to the chiefs, right? That's right. They had a big lead against the chiefs. Yes. no, no, they lost to the chiefs, right? That's right. They had a big lead against the chiefs. Yes. That was the 41 to 10 game. Yeah. Yeah. It was the first Saturday game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah. That flipped in my brain. Yeah. OK, let's get to our interview with Peter Schrager. We're going to talk more ball. We're going to talk more conference championship preview of the games. He's got all the inside sources before we do that. PFT, you got a couple of quick ads. Yeah. Before we get to Peter Schrager, he's brought to you by Pardon My Cheesesteak.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I love Pardon My Cheesesteak. What better game day meal than a cheesesteak? And big news, we've teamed up with Uber Eats to bring the flavor straight to your doorstep. Craving that Philly perfection will no problem. Just hit up the Uber Eats app, scroll through our cheesesteak lineup, let the flavor journey begin.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Whether you're vibing with a classic Philly cheesesteak or feeling adventurous with one of our signature creations, part of my cheesesteak is just a few taps away. We're talking steak grilled to perfection, smothered in cheese that'll make you say, pardon me, this is heavily. Heavenly. That's a good tag line. Pardon me, this is heavenly. So why wait? Open up the Uber Eats app, search for part of my cheesesteaks, get ready for a flavor touchdown right at your doorstep. Pardon us, but we're about to make your taste buds do a victory dance. I'm gonna eat some cheesesteaks on Sunday for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Best game day meal in the world, cheesesteak. Get some fries, get some sodies. Order now on UberEats or pardonmycheesesteak.com. Peter Shraggers also brought to you by the Farmer's Dog. Blake, just wait him in. Up to 85 pounds now. All thanks to the farmer's dog and their very nutritious meals. He loves the farmer's dog. He starts drooling. He goes, he sits by his food dish when it's dinner time. He knows what time
Starting point is 00:40:56 the farmer's dog comes out of the fridge. It's fresh. It's made to eat for dogs. And it's great. It's nutritious. Keeps him them healthy, keeps them active. Blake and Stella have both been on the farmer's dog and they're doing great. They're thriving. The farmer's dog makes and delivers fresh healthy dog food right to your door. It's developed by Vets. It's nutritionally balanced. It's made from real meat and veggies to satisfy its standards of human food. I would eat it. It looks good enough for a human to eat. It's the best option for dogs of all life stages because it's not kibble, it's not can-go,
Starting point is 00:41:27 it's just real healthy food. Farmer's dog just isn't fresh, higher quality food. They also send the food pre-portioned specifically for your dog based on their unique nutritional needs. Doesn't matter if your dog's younger or old, it's always the right time to begin investing in their health. That means more healthy, happy and full use
Starting point is 00:41:45 together. Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at thefarmersdog.com slash PMT. Plus you get free shipping. Just go to thefarmersdog.com slash PMT to get 50% off. That's thefarmersdog.com slash PMT. And now here's Peter Schrager. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest in person. It's Peter Schrager from Good Morning Football, also NFL Network. NFL Network. NFL Network. Fox NFL Kickoff.
Starting point is 00:42:14 We do the weekend show for Fox. So what does it feel like being just owned by the league? Yeah, no, it's a burden. It's great. I get to do the show on NFL Network. I get some of the perks in a lot of ways, being behind the shields of people pick up my call when I call. But yeah, gotta toe the line.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah. Are you behind the shield or are you protecting the shield? Interesting. I'm in the front lines. Yeah. You're the shield for the shield. The tip of the spear. The tip of the spear.
Starting point is 00:42:39 The tip of the spear of the shield. And they tell you before the season starts, who's going to be playing the Super Bowl, right? They lay it all out and they say, just play along with this group. I saw that your pick was the Chiefs and the Niners, that's interesting. So back in September we have to make our picks. I have now had five straight years of picking the correct Super Bowl champion and I take great pride and pat myself on the back for this.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And that included the Buccaneers run with Brady, the Rams run with Stafford. That's crazy. Yeah. And then this year I went and did a whole thing because I've realized in our world, if you don't promote yourself, no one else will. And so I was like, well, they're certainly not talking about this on all the other shows. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I'm going to talk about it on our freaking show. So I did a whole thing and I basically said, and I just don't know how it happens. I don't know where it happens, but the chiefs will win again because until my homes, I see him get knocked off his block, he's not losing and they're going to beat the Niners. And now it's kind of it. And now I'm in this jam because I'm watching this Ravens team. And I'm super into them.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And to break the fourth wall, my wife is from Baltimore. Her father is a diehard Raven slash Colton. My wife's father has been to every Baltimore Super Bowl ever, including Super Bowl three. Holy shit. So he's like, Was he in diner? He was in diner. He was right across from Barry Levinson
Starting point is 00:43:49 while they were filming that. Yeah, you could pass the test. He could pass the test. He knows all the stuff from the Colts teams from the 60s and 70s. So my son is seven years old, getting into sports, and he just loves Lamar Jackson, loves Baltimore. And it's one of those like heart versus mind versus my own career.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Do I just ride with the chiefs right now? Or do I say screw it? Uh, you know, I'm going to root for the Ravens here cause it's good for my family and I can actually go back for Thanksgiving. Well, it sounds like you've hedged yourself nicely, which we just finished doing, we were doing the preview and we're like, Baltimore is the better team. Yes. Overall better defense, like offense that has looked better for the course of the
Starting point is 00:44:24 season, but it's Patrick Mahomes. That's the thing. And that's it. It's Patrick Mahomes. You're watching last week against Houston and there was like five like false start penalties. There was a couple of delay games and that was just a crowd
Starting point is 00:44:37 and already they've said who's gonna be at this thing. Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are welcoming him in. Terrell Suggs will be there. Michael Phelps is gonna be involved in some way. So like this is like the ultimate Baltimore love fest. They haven't had a home AFC championship game since 1971 in Baltimore. This place is going to be pandemonium. So everything on paper says it's going to be Ravens and yet.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's a restaurant. Don't forget about T-Pain. T-Pain and Afton. Yeah. Yeah. So. So all out boy last week. No, not fall by. I'm sorry. Our guys, Jimmy Eat World last week. Yeah, yeah. So, so. All out boy last week. No, not fall boy. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Our guys, Jimmy Eat World last week. Yeah. They should get Cisco back. T-Pain. Why not? All right. So I want to talk about the conference championship games, but we had, while we were doing the show, we had an interesting thought that you're, you're so clued in.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Is there a chance Bill Belichick doesn't get a job this year? Yeah. What, why? What's happening? Yeah. The only thing that was coming up was Atlanta. That was they met last week. Right. We're recording this. It's Thursday. He already had a second interview with them. And if you're Bill Belichick or if you're the Falcons, I don't you're not getting a third interview with like, actually, let's go back and watch some of the stuff that you can, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:41 sell yourself to us. That's you would know by now. It's crazy that he did a second interview. It's crazy to second interview. And I tweeted this last night on the X. I took to X. Fourteen different coaches have interviewed for this Falcons job. Yeah. What? But 14 different ones and Belichick twice.
Starting point is 00:45:59 So it's like, if it's not the Falcons, I don't have another team for him. Yeah. Here's a little nugget for you, though. To my knowledge, I think Belichick is the only one that got the vacation that took him to Antigua. That's it. All the other ones have taken place at the Falcons facility. He had a, but they took them, they, they wind and dine a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:46:17 But what's going on? Like what is happening that he's not, like if you want him, you should have hired him. It's done. Right. And it's you figure out the financials and yes, you can bring McDaniels and yes, you can bring everyone you want and bring your whole band of characters and we'll rebuild New England here. It hasn't happened yet.
Starting point is 00:46:32 So it's Arthur Blank. Arthur Blank has a son who I think is getting more involved as well. And then you've got Rich McKay, who's a long time NFL guy, was with Tampa for years. And then of course, it's been with Atlanta through and through. And then they also have Terry Fontenot Who's like a young up-and-coming really respected GM who they hired from the Saints a couple years ago And to hear McKay and Fontenot were also in these interviews or at least was in one of the interviews is really interesting to me
Starting point is 00:46:56 Does Bella check gel with guys that he inherits like he of course knows rich McKay from years of being at the league But it seems like that's an unorthodox situation too, where Bellachock's like, yeah, Terry Fountain, O'Gynne is forties who has, you know, drafted players for the saints in the glory years of the tooth. He's going to tell me who to pick. I'm curious the dynamic and what the decision is. That's what's the holdup is the front office. So if you had to put your money on it right now,
Starting point is 00:47:20 who's going to be the coach of the Falcons? I don't know. You have no idea. I have no idea. Mike Vrable potentially Mike Vrable? Potentially. Mike Vrable, as we speak, is meeting with David Tepper and the Panthers. Well, we were saying that that like the the if you go to the Falcons, then you go to the Panthers. I don't think you have to be worried that he's going to go take the Panthers shop. That has to be the least excited job.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I disagree. Why? I like the Panthers. Why? I like the Panthers. Is David Tepper paying you? David Tepper will pay. OK. OK. First of all, I guess you technically in a roundabout way. panthers. Is David Tepper paying you? David Tepper will pay. Okay. First of all, that's what he is. Can I do a little tepper thing and everyone could say,
Starting point is 00:47:50 well, you know, of course you're from the league, you're going to talk positive about the owner. I don't think all the owners do talk about tepper. Yeah. All right. Do you know tepper's career? Like a little bit? Yeah. Yeah. So this was a guy who was like, truly the renegade of Wall Street. And I kind of like that already. He worked at Goldman for years.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And then, you know, after a bunch of years of being passed over, he's like, all right, I'm going to go start my own thing, Apple Lusa. They have this great ride. The guy who kept on passing him over at Goldman ends up, I believe getting a divorce has to sell his Hamptons house. Tepper buys the Hamptons house and it just demolishes it. Yeah, grudge. Nice. Grudge. Yeah. So, OK. so already we're kind of like, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Seems well adjusted, yeah. Yeah, okay. Apparently, you walk into his office on Wall Street, the Apollos at the end of the walk in, there's just two giant brass testicles. Yeah, yeah, well adjusted, yeah. Adjusted, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And yet, he's had employees there for 30 years and he's had- He pays well, probably. He's had remarkable- He's very good at blackmail. In Wall Street. And then the other part of it is like, he three different times in his career, because I had to do a whole like study on it, obviously. Black Friday, he was ahead of it, like knew that was coming whenever that was in 87 or
Starting point is 00:48:56 it was Black Monday, I'm sorry. Black whatever it was, 87, he beat that one. Then in 08 with the housing market, he beat that one. And then on COVID in like February of, you know, 2020, he's on CNBC being like, I'd get rid of all your hospitality stocks, I'd get rid of all your restaurant stocks. So wait, he-
Starting point is 00:49:12 But all of this is nothing to do with football. My point is, this is a guy who has gone all in against the grain. I think it hasn't clicked yet with the football. And I would say, okay, I'll roll with that guy. And did he spill a drink on a fan from Jacksonville? Yeah, it was like that. It was a spill.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It was not a grow. It was not an accident. Grow was the word. Do we have any idea what was going on before that? I'm not defending David Tepper for doing that. So now I do think you're getting beat by David Tepper. I have nothing to do with it. Spill a drink.
Starting point is 00:49:36 We don't know if the fan wanted to have that drink. I don't think he was. I don't think. Whoops. Sorry for spilling this at you. So what you've told us is that like he's kind of a baby and he has successfully beaten the market possibly through insider trading.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Can't work with others. Yeah, can't work with others. Yeah, like basically has the people. He wants to win. His people skills are essentially I'll pay you money and then you'll stick with me. I kinda like that he's against the grain. He's a new owner and he's kind of a voice
Starting point is 00:50:03 in these league meetings too. Well, but hold on, you know how this league works. When all these guys and women get together and they see a guy who's trying to do it his way and he keeps failing, they like them. They wanna keep them around. Dan Sider stayed around for a long time. He was good for all the other guys
Starting point is 00:50:21 because he's like, Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones gonna be competitive? Jerry Jones loved it. That was his best friend as far as owners go. I don't take what the owner say. They see him and they say, oh gosh, they're the worst team in football. Keep them around.
Starting point is 00:50:32 They're the worst team in football. They don't have their number one pick. And like the guy can't figure, he's having meetings with Frank Reich like twice a week, which any football coach would be like, what the fuck? I think they're doing a good search right now. Obviously, now I'm already in the bag.
Starting point is 00:50:46 It sounds like I'm just trying to. Yeah, you put yourself in a corner. I'm now fighting out of it. I would say Dan Morgan Hire was unexpected because everyone figured he would just wipe everyone out. Morgan was there. So you're going to bring him in. They're probably going to bring someone else
Starting point is 00:50:57 who can handle some of the salary cap stuff and also the contract negotiations. And then I think they're going to hire a coach that can work with Bryce Young. I don't think it's that horrible a job. I think Charlotte's a cool city to live in then I think they're gonna hire a coach that can work with Bryce Young. I don't think it's that horrible a job. I think Charlotte's a cool city to live in. I think there's opportunity.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And I also think the NFC South is still wide open. Next year they could turn it around. The best argument you can make for David Tepper as an owner is because of his background and his makeup and everything that he's done in his life, he will reach a point where he gets so sick of losing that he'll be like, maybe I have to do it someone else's way. That's the best argument. I don't think he
Starting point is 00:51:29 hit the his way is currently working, but like a guy like that, they don't like losing and they don't like being a joke. So he will eventually hit that threshold where he's like, okay, yeah, I probably should like listen to someone else. Yeah. And I'll tell you, it's going to be an uphill battle, obviously, with no first round pick and that hurts. And you could say, well, there's salary caps and mess and all that thing. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I kind of like guys who, Al Michaels calls games, right? And it's always like, he's got like these, he's a little bit of a rascal. I feel like Tepper's a little bit of a rascal. Rascal, rascal's a great word. It's a great word. And it's kind of like, all right, this is how I'm supposed to do things.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I'm going to do it my way. And I think he wants to win so badly and he's done it on Wall Street, which I think is as competitive as the NFL. And I understand that there's a lot of personal stuff. And you could say, well, it's more about teamwork and chemistry than just some renegade out there. I think he desperately wants to win.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And I wouldn't sell on David Tepper in the Panthers just yet. Okay. Well, I think that with the character arc of a owner like this, typically goes, you go in, you try to do it your way, you fail. Then you say, I've learned my lessons. I'm now going to turn things over to football people that understand football. Sounds like they are.
Starting point is 00:52:35 But then you know, but step number two is you say all those things, but you still meddle behind the scenes. Then step number three, the third act is when you actually take your hands off. You're just like, all right, someone else can run this show. If you're Vrable though, and you interview the Falcons and your son is signed to the team, I feel like that makes it a little bit more attractive, right?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, I feel like that has to be, if it's offered, right? I think it's interesting, Vrable, Belichick, both these guys, Pete Carroll hasn't even gotten an interview anywhere, it's like, I think everyone thought, well, if they're really going to still want to be coaching all three of those guys, we would get first dibs in. I don't know if it's a changing of the guard in the NFL where a lot of these
Starting point is 00:53:10 owners are like, I'd rather just do it my way and bring in a young guy and we can mold that thing together. Yeah. We're going to get back to Peter Schrager in a second. He's being brought to you by Coors Light, hanging with friends and family to watch the big game is the best. But as the game heats up, it can get intense. That's why Coors Light has that signature ice cold refreshment to keep you feeling chill. For the big game, stock up on Coors Light and choose chill. I've been drinking Coors Lights, beers back baby.
Starting point is 00:53:34 It's beer season. Enjoying beers, drinking beers, buying beers, keeping beers outside, keeping the mountains blue. And guess what? You might even remember an iconic beer train. That's known for spreading good vibes and course lights to those who need it. After 12 years on hiatus, course lights beer train is coming out of retirement for the big game. Talk about crack and open an ice cold light and listening for the sweet sounds of love train. When it's time for refresh, you just open up a course light. How
Starting point is 00:54:03 great would that be if you're just you're chilling, you're thirsty, you're parched, you need an ice cold beer and then boom, an ice cold beer train busts through your wall delivering frosty noble Pilsners right to your brain. I love the Coors Light. One of the best commercials of all time. I would agree. Yes. People over the world join hands and have a beer train, a beer train. There's only one beer out there for the chillest big game that's Coors Light. Stock up or get Coors Light delivered straight to your door with Instacart by going to CoorsLight.com slash take. Celebrate responsibly Coors Brewing Company, Gold in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And now here's more Peter Schreger. We got something that we want to fix on this show. It's the process of interviewing coordinators as they're still in the playoffs because it feels like it's broken on one hand You don't want to like spend all your time interviewing guys that you don't want to hire Wait till those teams are bounce for the playoffs and now you can interview them But at the same time it's like they have a job They've got the most important games their life in some cases coming up that they they need to be prepared for What is the solution to this? It's tough because last week they've got the most important games their life in some cases coming up that they need to be prepared for.
Starting point is 00:55:05 What is the solution to this? It's tough because last week, Ben Johnson, who is the hottest name you're wearing, obviously your Washington stuff, I think that's a good fit for them. I want that. I think you do. And I think he'd be great. He interviewed for three different jobs via Zoom on the Saturday before their game on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And you got to think, well, God, that's the perfect time for these last second adjustments and looking at it. But Dave Canales, his opponent, was also interviewing for the Carolina Panthers job the day before the same game. So it does seem like it's messed up. The plan would be just,
Starting point is 00:55:37 you can't hire anybody till after Super Bowl and you got it. But then you're now, you're knocking on the door with the Combine, which is a week later, the Giraffe, which is already happening. So it's an imperfect science. Um, they've changed a lot of the rules for the better, I think, to give more opportunities to minority candidates and the Rooney rule, of course, requires that. And now you also have things where you can't interview.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Those guys can't be interviewing right now. If you're playing this weekend, you can't be interviewing this week before the conference championship game. So that is at least in place, but it's an imperfect science. And the worst situation is a guy spends the entire night before the game interviewing with some other team and then they get blown out because of this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 We definitely would blame that. Or if you're a coordinator for like a Super Bowl team and then the day after the Super Bowl, if you lose, then you get hired in the same town that the Super Bowl was in. That would be Jonathan Gannon. Yeah. That would be a strange look. That was strange. They paid the price for it. I actually like what the Eagles are doing.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I like Fangio. I like Fangio too. He's the best. Who would you guys want as the offensive coordinator? It literally is like an episode of The Bachelor. As a Commander's fan, I hope that they just bring Ron Rivera over there. As the offensive coordinator. They do it with Castillo.
Starting point is 00:56:39 They do it right over there. They do like the Matt Patricia thing where it's like, okay, you know what? You know how to beat a defense because we've seen how you play. So I feel like as an offensive coordinator, you'd be really good. That's what what's interesting is they have already a staff there and not all those guys have been fired. Siriani is an offensive coach gave up the play calling last year. So now you're in this weird deal.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I know one coach, I'll even say Kingsbury interviewed for them. He did it via Zoom. We said it was really good. And it was like interesting cause I think a lot of these coaches are coming in and it's like, all right, well, Nick's an offensive guy. Am I going to be able to run my offense? You guys give it.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And apparently the Eagles are like, yeah, bring your offense and bring who you want with you and let's see what you can do. And I think it's going to be a very attractive job because all the skill position players and the offensive line is incredible. Is it though? Because I always wonder this, like the Bears and the Eagles, obviously different
Starting point is 00:57:30 because the Eagles went to the Super Bowl, but if you're an offensive coordinator candidate and you're trying to get this job, are you in the back of your head being like, this guy is on the hot seat already? That if it doesn't go well, we're all gonna be looking for jobs again? Or does it not matter because, hey,
Starting point is 00:57:45 there's only 32 of these jobs, you gotta take whatever you can get. No, it's a great question. And in Eberfluss's case, if you think he's a lame duck coach, and this is like the last year, and obviously Shane Waldron got the job, you'd also say, I'm also taking on
Starting point is 00:57:57 either a rookie quarterback in Caleb, or I'm coming in with fields where I've got to kind of adjust to whatever they're putting around him. The Eagles one is different though because you already have the fully built offensive line. I didn't mean to compare them. No, no, but it's a good point. And then the question is, did they hit such a low this year that no matter what, if you're the offensive coordinator, you're being praised and it's like, okay, well they fixed the offense. You can't get worse
Starting point is 00:58:19 than what it was. True. All right, so let's talk about the games this weekend. Let's start with the AFC Championship game. You have people around the league, you talk to everyone. What is it about this Ravens defense that has been so special this year? We have the hypothesis that there are some franchises that it actually matters that Ray Lewis and Ed Reed played there, because it seems like the Ravens
Starting point is 00:58:40 just play with that edge that's just built into their franchise. They have that edge, they have the dudes that's just like built into their like franchise. Like they have that edge. They have the dudes that are just like nasty and want to get after you. But what, when you talk to different offensive coordinators or coaches, what is it that gives them such an edge and they're making it so hard to score points on them?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah, I think John Harbaugh had a really cool quote yesterday. And it's actually from Steve Smith who said it years ago, he's talking about Roquan Smith, which I know it breaks your heart seeing. Yeah, no, he's a perfect Raven. It's like, and he said, he goes, that guy has been a Raven his whole career. He just didn't know it till he got here.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Which is such a badass comment. It's facts. And they've had guys like that, whether it be the CJ Mosley types or the Terrell Suggs or even Haloti Nata, those guys, they're like Ravens. That's just what they are. And I think they've got a bunch of them on this team. You know, McCordy, who I work with,
Starting point is 00:59:27 Jason McCordy is a defensive back for 13 years. So I could talk to the offensive coordinators, but I also talk to him every day for three hours. What they do is they mix and match. It's like, you don't know what version of the off, of the defense you're gonna get. So one day they're looking at you and it's one totally different look
Starting point is 00:59:42 than it was the week before. And they have kicked the shit out of so many good teams in the building. What they did to Detroit was real. They beat them by something like 30 something. And obviously they beat the Dolphins. They beat the Seahawks when the Seahawks were the hottest team, two seed in the NFC, they blew them out.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And then they go up to Santa Clara obviously and did that. And last week, I thought that it was gonna be a closer game, especially at the half, it's 10-10. And then it was just too much. It was suffocating. And you're talking about all those false starts and all the way the crowd got-10. And then then it was just too much. It was suffocating and you talk about all those false starts and all the, all the way the crowd got into it.
Starting point is 01:00:07 It felt like it was just an avalanche. But this guy, McDonald, if Ben Johnson isn't the coach of Washington, I'd keep an eye on him also there because he's brilliant and talking to him a little bit. I don't know him that well, but his story is cool. He was at UGA and then he went to the Ravens for a long time. And then Jim Harbaugh took him to Michigan as you probably know He was defensive coordinator there and then John took him back So he's got the college and the pro and he's 37 smart cool and the players really connect with him
Starting point is 01:00:34 So I I think what they do is they match up with everybody and you can't really prepare for it because they do so many different things What about Kansas City's defense so Kansas City's defense much better than it has been in the past Chris Jones will just fuck you up. He just has a few plays every game where he's like, I'm gonna fuck that guy up. And he does it. And it seems like it's impossible to stop it. They got some injuries. Are they going to be able to slow down Lamar at all? Yeah, that's the thing. I'm trying to envision a situation where Lamar is completely stilted. And there's been three games where he struggled. The Colts, which was like in the rain at home early on in the season, they hit a wall in the second half against Cleveland in a
Starting point is 01:01:07 game this season. And then they have one more loss to the Steelers early on, which was just weird. But for the last few months, like Lamar's just rolling. So Spags all respect to him. And what he does, like, this is asking a lot from Nick Bolton and Willie Gay and Drew Trenquil, the linebackers to try to make a way to stop this run game. Cause I think it's coming. I think LeMaur is going to be running a lot. Yeah, I think they're going to run a lot. So another team is going to probably try to run a lot. Well, actually, both the Niners and the Lions are going to run a lot. The Lions run. I know that you've talked to all the people in the building. It's pretty incredible because you don't really see it in the NFL where it's like they zagged. They went with Dan Campbell who was not, I think Chris Long put it perfectly
Starting point is 01:01:45 when we had him on the show on Wednesday. All these owners are bubble boys, where it's like if they sit down with a football guy through and through, it's like these two people in no other profession would have any conversation with each other, but they go with Dan Campbell, the rebuild happens, it looked bleak for a while last year, and now they're in the NFC championship game.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I mean, is it just like Dan Campbell? You can't say enough about what he's done for the culture of that team. It goes even above Campbell. So when they first, you know, we're like, OK, we're firing Patricia. We're going to start anew. We're going to look at this thing. There was two big hires. One of them was Chris Spielman. All right. So Spielman, you think of Chris Spielman when we were kids.
Starting point is 01:02:21 It was a bloody face, like just hardcore Lyons linebacker. And then obviously played for Buffalo and Cleveland. He was working on Fox. He was like the third announcer on Fox and the ownership group, they had him as the pre-season analyst. They said, would you want to join in some capacity? Very nebulous job. But they're like, would you come back?
Starting point is 01:02:39 And he left Fox, which is a pretty good job, pretty comfortable. You know, you call in games 17 weeks out of the season, you're off the rest of it. And he joined Detroit and he kind of advised a little bit on the coaching search and they brought everybody in. They had Salah in there. They had Arthur Smith. They did the whole coaching search. And Dan Campbell came in who Spielman had no relation to
Starting point is 01:02:58 and you look at, they hired this other guy, Mike Disney, who was in Arizona. They hired these guys. They didn't have any connection to Campbell. He was all about the right things. And it sounds a little cliche, a little corny when we talk about like grit and what that city's about. And it's a working class.
Starting point is 01:03:12 They're like, Campbell sold them. And we're like, we're gonna build this thing from the ground up. And then every single decision they've made since then has worked. Aaron Glenn fits what they do. This Ben Johnson is brilliant. They found him from Miami
Starting point is 01:03:23 where Dan Campbell worked with him. And then the draft picks have all worked. This year's draft class is incredible. But beyond that, and I think Chris Long mentioned on your podcast last week, they got three first round picks on the offensive line. So they're really good, really talented, but like, culturally, it's the right place. There are no divas in that building. I think it worked because it was so closely tied with who Dan Campbell is as a person. Totally. You can see like when any coach can come in and say like, we're going to change the identity of this team to fit the city and then eyes are going to roll and be like, okay, yeah, whatever I've heard this before. I remember the when
Starting point is 01:03:54 Juergen Klinsman was the coach of the US men's national team. He's like, we're going to play like America, which is we fight overseas. We're going to fight in your territory. Everyone's like, well, this isn't going to work. But every every coach tries to do that or a lot of a lot of them do. Well, think about it. Campbell shows up with him. It's like it's real. That's his story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:11 This is going to sound patronizing as like a minute, but he shows up like it's not a great looking suit. It's a blue button down. It's a striped tie. He's not trying to win any awards or go to the Milan fashion show. So like that starts it and everything he says, like he's true to it. So he lives and breeds it from way up to the Milan fashion show. So like that starts it and everything he says, like he's true to it. So he lives and breeds it from way up to the ownership group.
Starting point is 01:04:29 They live and breathe it. And again, they embrace the city and what they're about and every one of their stories, whether it be Amon Ross, St. Brown, having 16 wide receivers taken before him, whether it be Gibbs, everyone rolling their eyes when they take a running back and forth, whether it be Goff, who obviously was discarded
Starting point is 01:04:44 and kind of told like, we're better off without you. I think they all fit that kind of, running back and forth, where there'd be golf who obviously was discarded and kind of told like we're better off without you. I think they all fit that kind of mantra. Yeah, that's crazy. We do this challenge with every guest. Say something nice about Jared golf without qualifying it at all. Jared golf's got edge this year.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Oh. Yeah, okay. That's good. Okay, say what you want. I'm a qualifier because this year. This year, this year. I know what you're gonna say, but no He's like okay Everyone talks about Brock Purdy being the guy that anytime you pay a compliment to him
Starting point is 01:05:10 There's always a but it's also in the system type thing Jerry golf is kind of that too this year where people every nice thing that someone said about Jerry golf They're like they add on like when they do play action right at the end of your golf I think is just playing good football this year He's just a good football player. And they had one bad game on Thanksgiving. And the story the next day was like, well, Hinden Hooker is being activated from injury.
Starting point is 01:05:31 It's like, maybe it's time we start considering. That's how short the leash is with fans with Jared Goff. The stat was crazy. I think there's been a very limited group of quarterbacks who have played in the Super Bowl for two different teams. It might be Brady Warner and a couple other guys. Yeah, it was like five guys who played in the Super Bowl for two different teams. It might be like Brady Warner and a couple other guys. Yeah, it was knows. It was like five guys who played in the championship game with two different
Starting point is 01:05:48 teams, Brady Warner, Brett Favre and Peyton Manning. And then I think there might be like four of them. I guess if you want to get rid of one of them who's been in the Super Bowl, he's a game away. So that's legit. But the edge thing is interesting because he's always been the nice guy taking the high road and, you know, this Northern California vibe the rams. He was on hard knocks like three different times And at no point where we like that's a cool, you know, that's a guy that that's the man, you know
Starting point is 01:06:12 It's always like nice guy. All right. Who else on the team because that's that seems like he's just kind of steady Eddie this year the amazon post game show I guess we're in the pregame someone. I think ryan fits patch. Yeah, it was just Patrick We busted him up for that. You hit him, right? But like for him to come back and I guess like one of their PR guys like whispered in his ear, like before the game, they called you a poor man's Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Like he like stopped the show and was like, wait, so you said I was a poor man's Matt Ryan. And then yesterday they were, they were asking, one of the locals was like in his press thing like, so you know, you're not really household names this team. And you look at it and he's like, stop it right there. Amon Ross, St. Brown's the first team all pro. Penny Sewell's the first team all pro like stop.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah, I mean, it really is to me what Jared has done this year. And you can count last year as well. He's never going to be the most vocal guy. He's never going to be like a crazy, you know, press conferences and clips. I think it's just his story fits in so perfectly with Detroit's story that he becomes such a great leader, just you could say quiet leader, but it feels like that whole team just rides with him because he was discarded and it was like,
Starting point is 01:07:14 oh, well, he's a bridge quarterback for the Lions. Then he's been playing so well. It's like, no, wait, he's really good. Yeah. And the rubber's gonna hit the road this off season. So he's going into the final year of his contract next year. And it's like Detroit can talk how much they love Jared and Jared's our guy. Are you going to pay him 45 million? And we'll see.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I think they should pay him more. Yeah. And if some of us, he can give us some of this. If he chooses to do that, but I think they should. He has the option. He can't give us enough money where he has money that he would want to give to his friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 All right. So, so the Niners, uh, it feels like the Niners have been building, you know, last year they were building to this moment. The entire roster is just loaded with dudes. What, like in terms of, I don't want to say legacy, but like this is a very important game for Kyle Shanan because I think he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. But at some point you got to start winning
Starting point is 01:08:04 some big, big games and get to the Super Bowl. And you know, he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. But at some point you got to start winning some big, big games and get to the Super Bowl. And, you know, he's been to one, but like, how what's the vibe with the Niners in terms of like window and this year and like it's all in, they got to win it. I think they felt good all season long. And, you know, last week was really hairy at points. And then Perti has an awesome drive to end it,
Starting point is 01:08:20 like just takes him right down the field. And I think that not only, you know, bailed out all those Niners, but I think it was a nice sigh of relief. And I think this week, they're going to come with a much different game plan. Debo Samuel was huge though, if he's not He's everything. He is such an important piece to that. But I'll say this, that Joann Jennings 15, they call him third in Joann. He's been like, he's awesome. And Peter's always got one of those. Drop a little one. Yeah. And he's the dude that like wants to fight and practice. He's the guy that like the defense is like, could do it like relax.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Like we understand he's like, you're Rudy. Great. Like he's that guy. And I think you're going to see him have a huge role in this game. And I was shocked watching Purdy on that last drive because it's number 15. Joann Jen. And then you get he's hitting, you know, I didn't even know Chris Connelly was on the team. I know all these, like that. Perti had to rise above and Perti was really, really good in that final drive. I just talking to other coaches and I know that sounds like I'm just bailing it out here. It's like what they do with McCaffrey is so unique and that if Kyle needs to, it has a whole week to prepare for this thing,
Starting point is 01:09:22 you will see stuff that you have not seen all season and they will use McCabe. They're just so freaking tough inside. I know. What about their defense? Their defense has a lot of dudes on it, for sure. They've been good. They've been a really good defense, but I feel like they're a little bit susceptible
Starting point is 01:09:35 to running the football. They are. Because they play with the lead so often that you can tell Bosa, pin your ears back, quarterback's gonna drop back, go sack them. You'd say that's Chase Young too. But when they have to play from behind, it feels like it's a different game and they're not as stout against the run as you would like them to be.
Starting point is 01:09:50 It's good analysis. I mean, that's right. Great analysis. Thank you. Like Aaron Jones. You don't have to answer. I just, I just wanted to get that out of my chest. It sounded really good too.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Like Aaron Jones last week, they had a game plan. They're like, we're going to go outside. We're going to run Aaron Jones. And he ran. He ate like he had a great game. And at the end of the day, that obviously loved those at interception, but they were in striking distance. I think Detroit's going to be able to move the ball on them as well.
Starting point is 01:10:12 They're very underrated on the back end. I think Lenore is very good. Charveria is wards very good. And then those three linebackers that they have there among the best in the league. So between Greenlaw and Warner, like they have dudes behind just that defensive line. I'm feeling about Amber Thomas, not they have dudes behind just that defensive line. I feel about Ambrie Thomas, not a great game for me. No, for more last week. It also hurts that he's a name that you can remember. Yeah. Before the snap, you could see love was like, Ambrie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:35 His get big. Yeah. If he was like Ben Thomas, Joe William Thomas, you'd be like, wait, oh yeah, that guy, Ambrie, though. You're like, yeah. Ambrie's a concern for him. I'm circling him. Number 20. Yeah. No, that's a look. Not was not you're like, yeah. Ambrie's a concern for me. I'm circling him. Number 20, yeah, no. Look, it was not a good day for him yesterday and you'd like to think that he can redeem himself. They used to forever have like,
Starting point is 01:10:51 Joukwaski Tartt and Jimmy Ward and those were the guys in the middle. They quietly transitioned off of those guys. They've got all these young guys now so they're gonna have to step up. All right, so you're so plugged in. Allow me 60 seconds to ask you a Bears question. Is it Caleb Williams? And I saw Mel Kuiper said that the Bears could get
Starting point is 01:11:08 a first round pick for Justin Fields. I don't believe that. So I would like you to tell me that actually is true and I'm dumb. I think it could be either a first round pick or a second round pick. But if you're talking about first round pick for Justin Fields, talking about a team that needs a quarterback,
Starting point is 01:11:21 like what team is giving up a top 10 or top 15 pick? Falcons, Falcons. That's the eighth pick? Are you giving up the eighth overall pick? I don't know. That seems like a pretty team that needs a quarterback. Like what team is giving up a top 10 or top 15 pick? That's the eighth pick? Are you giving up the eighth overall pick? I don't know. That seems like a pretty steep price for a quarterback who's gonna have to be a huge contract. I don't know, that seems like a great deal.
Starting point is 01:11:32 It seems like a great deal. But the contract is real too. So you're gonna have to extend them. Like you're not bringing them in for a one year deal. So it's not gonna be a first round pick. No kind of just get me hyped up. Is it gonna be Caleb Williams though? You know, the fact that the interviewed Kingsbury
Starting point is 01:11:44 was interesting. So I thought immediately like, oh, they're gonna wanna bring him in there, but like, they might've just been asking about Caleb a little bit. Getting intel. Getting intel, because they ended up going with Shane Waldron. I have no, financially, you talked about it for six months,
Starting point is 01:11:58 it makes a lot of sense to just drop Caleb and say, let's start and reset it, but they've not made any indications that that's the case yet. That's what we need. We also need this. Yeah. The draft goes through this podcast. Totally. We got the one, two and three. If they told us what they were doing in January, it would screw us for the next three months. Yeah. Smoke screens everywhere right now. I saw Mel Kuiper said that Jaden Daniels was going to go number two. My theory on that is that Kuiper likes to update his mock drafts. So he always, he wants to have some room to move a guy. So in like two weeks, he'll be like,
Starting point is 01:12:25 you know what, now I'm feeling more Drake May, now that Ben Johnson, the head coach, they get an entire UNC quarterback room. Ben Johnson, Drake May, Sam Howell. Kuiper, Mock Draft, two points. Two points. There we go. We all lose our brain.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah. But if you were, it seems to me like Jane Daniels is a more intriguing prospect. Yeah. Right? Because we saw his explosive playability. Who do you, just seeing Kyle, you watch Kyle, who would you rather have between the two right now? It seems to me like Jane Daniels is a more intriguing prospect. Yeah. Right? Because we saw his explosive playability. Who do you just seeing?
Starting point is 01:12:46 You watch who would you rather have between the two right now? I don't I don't watch enough Drake may I've only seen like three games of his and he looks good. But when I watch Jane Daniels, I'm like, holy shit. Yeah. Like it's kind of like Lamar when he was in college. Totally. He has that factor where you watch it and you see things that you've never seen a
Starting point is 01:13:01 quarterback do before. I think so. Like I'm but I'm also dumb and I wanna chase that high. Of course. But maybe just having a good quarterback like Drake May is a better idea, I don't know. That's a great analysis also. It's perfect because you're right.
Starting point is 01:13:13 You know, Drake May, there's a prototype, all right? That's him, he's a great quarterback. Everyone likes it. I would almost say like Justin Herbert's the ceiling for him, like that's what they say. Like just big statuette can throw the ball, great kid, leader the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Jaden Daniels though is a complete wild card in that this guy could be a sensation, you know, and could be that guy. And in the Heisman season, he was that early on in this thing. This is before he won the Heisman. I had a GM of another team call me and be like, why is everyone saying it's May versus Wilson? It's actually May Wilson and Daniels.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Like he's that good too. And the fourth name in, which I think is not getting any buzz right now, but we'll climb. I think JJ McCarthy is going to get a lot of buzz. And it's like, I don't know. Here's your, here's your Mac Jones type of like this guy wins games. That's not, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. In the draft process.
Starting point is 01:14:00 That was the Mac Jones thing in a loaded draft class. It was like, yeah, but if you draft Mac Jones, like you're getting a winner, you're getting a guy that's a leader now, whether or not that worked out. He is really good at handing the ball off. I get it. I get it. Crisp clean pocket handoff from JJ McCarty. I think JJ McCarty could be a good pro. I just don't, you would not put him in that conversation.
Starting point is 01:14:16 It'd be crazy to do a top 10 pick on him. The big conspiracy. It's a big question. The big conspiracy or the big outside the box thing is, you know, Harbaugh just took the chargers job. Yeah. Everyone loves it. Him and Herbert's going to be great. The big conspiracy or the big outside the box thing is, you know, Harbaugh just took the chargers job. And everyone loves it. Him and Herbert's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:14:28 That he ships off Herbert and he drafts JJ McCarthy with that, with that sixth pick. That's the best quarterback in Michigan history. He said, yeah. I know pretty good, pretty good quarterbacks. He could trade the, the, the Herbert to the bears or the first pick, give the bears the six pick. Yeah, that works.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Yeah. We'll take that right. He's a JJ McCarthy one. Yeah. What about the Patriots? Hank's Patriots. He doesn't the Bears the sixth pick. Yeah, that works. You take that right? You take GSM Car 3-1. What about the Patriots? Hank's Patriots, he doesn't understand how the draft works. He doesn't understand trades and all that stuff, but he is picking third right now. He thought that he could trade up to the first pick,
Starting point is 01:14:56 but also keep the third pick. Yeah, that's tough. Go on Hank. Good. I mean, I guess you could. The Patriots don't have two first round as though Texans did trade up for get the two and the three last year.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah. Anything's possible and we don't have a GM yet. So we have no idea. Yeah. True. What would you say they need the most if they're dropping quarterback?
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah. Yeah. But if it was Belichick, who knows? You end up taking a corner or a guard and you say, OK, well, he knows better than we do. But I think you go quarterback. You trade back all your picks and draft like five
Starting point is 01:15:26 offense linemen in the fifth round. You start to go to state. That's good, what we showed them. It's gonna be interesting because there's a good, high percentage chance that the three of us all have three new quarterbacks going on next year. That's actually cool. In all of our history is gonna be intertwined.
Starting point is 01:15:39 It will destroy the podcast because two of us will have shitty quarterbacks. What was the analogy you cast me in, like a Russian roulette? It's a Mexican standoff. Yeah, because we're just going to be spending the next five years being like, no, my guy's good. No, you should have taken that guy. It might actually be bad for the podcast for the future.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Yeah. Because if one of them ends up being like super ball worthy and the other two suck, there will be heavy resentment. Yeah. But isn't that I'll just say it right now. Well, if yours is really good, if the bears won the Super Bowl, then it's a little different. It's a one. You took one. Yeah, you guys didn't have a choice.
Starting point is 01:16:07 But the Bears have never passed over a great quarterback to take it back. No, but if not recent history, if like, if, if PFT takes it, if it goes, Cale Williams, Jane Daniels, then Hank gets Drake May and Drake May turns out to be the best of the three. It will be. Well, I'll hate him for it. It's fired. Hank hasn't had any great years of football as an adult.
Starting point is 01:16:24 So it's, yeah. Hank's fired. Hank hasn't had any great years of football as an adult. So it's Hank deserves this. Actually, he's like he's Detroit personified. Yeah, it's been tough from the last. You got you breaking news. We got. Get in here. I don't my photo. Read it.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I'm surprised the Panthers are closing in on a deal to hire Bucks, O.C. Dave Canales as a new head coach. Let me give you some canalis if you can. OK, yeah, give us some canalis. All right. He's already he's already on the hot seat. How about some David Tapkin? some canalis if you can. Okay. Yeah. Give us some canalis. He's already on the hot seat. How about some David Tapp? Canalis.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Some canalis. Okay. Some canalis. Let's trademark that. It was in Seattle for years. Passed over a bunch of times for that OC job. It was like the quarterback coach, whatever. And then he was Gino Smith's quarterback coach that year, but he did spend a ton of time with Dan Morgan in Seattle. Dan Morgan was in the front office.
Starting point is 01:17:04 He was the the front office. He was the quarterback, which goes to Tampa this year and everyone's like, all right, throwaway season, whatever. Juice, like ton of juice. You know, one of those guys, I think a lot of scripture in his life, also a lot of like pep talks for the guys in the locker room. He is beloved in Tampa and Baker like, sort obviously. This was like an outside the box interview. I heard he crushed it in Carolina and it was great. And I love this. Has anyone not crushed an interview?
Starting point is 01:17:33 Fair point. I mean, you hear, you don't hear often like this guy, but for them to bring a second interview, but Canalis was not the lead dog in that, in that room, like going into this thing. Of course, Ben Johnson and you would think Bobby Slowick and all these other guys, but all along, like they wanted to go young offensive to get Bryce Young, like that guy and what Canales did with Mayfield was tremendous.
Starting point is 01:17:53 So, he played football at Azusa Pacific. Let's go. Let's go. Christian Necourier went there. Yes, he did. So, he's being brought in to save Bryce Young. Yes. And he will be judged specifically on how Bryce Young does his quarterback.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yes. He has a long relationship with Tony Dungey as well. Oh, okay. The two of them are very tight. I've been told that that's- There's a scripture. Here's your scripture. And, but just like a ray of light in that building in Tampa this year, where everyone thought they were going to suck and they were going to be, he was like, no guys, we're good. Like we have this and people, he was really well liked in the building. And I think that's a good fit. All right, I'm gonna give it a C plus. What happens to Baker next year?
Starting point is 01:18:29 I think he's back. I think he goes back. He goes back to it, yeah. They end up breaking the bank form that are like, you've proven enough this year? I think so. I hope that happens. So why?
Starting point is 01:18:37 I feel like they ran him out of town. Dude, Baker was great last week. Yeah, he was. He was. He's been good this season. And I don't know if there's a team that fits Baker as much as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Yeah, it seems like a good spot. Good place. Good city. All right. I got a couple wrapping up I got a couple non football questions first is your show. Good morning football. What's the worst part about doing it?
Starting point is 01:18:57 The worst part consistently is that 430 that's crazy. I just wanted you to say 430. It does not Ever get fun. Yeah. What just wanted you to say 430 seconds. It does not ever get fun. Yeah, what time you go to bed? It's really hard, because there's games on Thursday, Sunday, Monday. So a lot of times what I'll do for those late games during the season, I'll watch the first half go to sleep and it's like, you know, the old like sign thought episode
Starting point is 01:19:19 like, don't tell me what happened. I'll wake up first thing. No one else is awake in the world. I don't check Twitter and the NFL on their website. NFL Plus has like the condensed game and I'll watch the second half and then I'll read all the articles from 4.30 to five. Are you able to go to the NFL website
Starting point is 01:19:32 without seeing the score out of like the corner of your eyes? Do you know where they put the scores? I purposely go out of my way. I've got a whole process. I like to have fresh analysis. It's also fun to wake up to. But most nights when it's not a game night, it's like I put my son to bed at eight and I'm in bed by nine when it's not a game night, it's like, I put my my son to
Starting point is 01:19:45 bed at eight and I'm in bed by nine. It's got to feel good, though, the reverse being done with your day at 10am. Yeah, that's incredible. What about on weekends? Has the early wake up affected your weekends now where you get up at like five? So this is sound sick, but I work for Fox on the weekends. That's an LA. So I take the first flight out on Saturday morning. Yeah, that is sick. I'm up at five every morning, anywhere on Saturday. And then you're sick. Fuck. And then on Sunday, it's 4 30, wake up Pacific time because we do the pregame show.
Starting point is 01:20:12 You're sick. Fuck. You're out of the trigger. Sick. Fuck. Yes. Colin sick. Fuck. But it's 4 30 a.m.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Wake up throughout the football season. So you can imagine what the hell? Honestly, though, you and I talk offline and I'm not trying to be like, I watch you. I'm like, all right, you're looking good these days. You put on the weight. You're looking good. These are eight points for me. It's like, I will put on 20 pounds no matter what during the fall season.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I tell myself mentally, like this is the year that it's not going to happen. You just can't avoid it when you're flying. It's bad. And you're watching football at those hours. Well, that was the other question I had for you, not football related. So the thing I love about you, Peter, is like you're, then don't take this the wrong way, a little nerdy, but you embrace it, which I love. Like I think that that's-
Starting point is 01:20:50 Self-awared without saying. Yeah, it makes it fun. Like if you get excited about football, that's a fun thing. I get excited listening to someone like you who's excited about football. And you know, you're a good looking guy, you're an average guy.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Good looking average guy. No, you're an average guy. We're an average guy. You're where? Good looking average. No, you're an average guy. We're all average guys. We're not like showstoppers, right? We're not shows. We're not Kyle Brands. The Alo sneakers, though. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:21:13 That's a hot guy brand. You think? I don't think that they I would be allowed in an Alo. Have you seen an Alo? It's like it's quiet luxury. Yeah, it's like a little lemon on steroids. All the people who go in there, the hottest people in the world
Starting point is 01:21:28 What are you trying to do? I tell you come back to us, dude? We're just regular guys for you. Okay. Well, I always find it cheesy when the white guys wearing like the cool Jordans Yeah, cringe so hard. Yeah, aloe as a brand. I can't I mean, I'm not an ambassador for aloe It aloes like if you're not living an athleisure, but like high-end aleisure. Do they let you in? So here's the deal. They had sneakers I was in LA and I go to the store and I have never seen the Aloe sneakers. So I'm like, I'm gonna get it before it becomes a thing. So I've never seen anyone else wear these sneakers. I can't wear like, I'm not wearing the Juicy Couture pants
Starting point is 01:21:57 that they sell. I've got these sneakers. I just wanna make sure that like you gotta. No, trust me, I'm man of the people. Okay, all right, because I see Aloe and I'm just like, that's hot guy people. Like the hottest women, the hottest men, they go to Al-O, they do their fucking sauna and they're cold tub
Starting point is 01:22:10 and they're like, this is how I'm hot. Totally. That's a hot guy jacket and a hot guy shirt too. Hey, you trying to be a hot guy? What the fuck is going on here? Hot guy, hot guy. Ligrophy on the shirt? Yeah, I don't know guys.
Starting point is 01:22:21 You're trying to be a hot guy. I'm trying to be a hot guy. You gotta remember you're sick fuck. Let me tell you about the 1971 AFC Championship game at Old Memorial Stadium in Baltimore. Can I change the topic? Yeah. Give us give us your analysis for the games. Tell us what the score is going to be for each game.
Starting point is 01:22:36 OK. Hitching back to the numbers. I actually think Chiefs Ravens is a low scoring game. It's not. It's not. I think it's in the 20s. I think it comes down to the end. Total?
Starting point is 01:22:44 No. No. That would be crazy in the 20s. I think it comes down to the end. Total? No. No. 23-20. 13-7. I think it's tense as shit. I think it's an amazing scene in Baltimore. I picked the Chief before the season. I am going to continue to roll with the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I think the Chiefs win and we're getting one more week of Mahomes and Taylor Swift and the whole thing. The other game, I think San Francisco rolls. Oh, rolls. All right. What about the point I think San Francisco rolls. Oh, rolls. All right. What about the point total for San Francisco, Detroit? Yeah, that one I think is more points.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Oh, I'm toying with taking the over in that game. Yes. I'm toying with it. I'm toying with it. As an NFL employee, I do not engage in such specific talk of numbers and whatnot, but I will say I would expect. We can predict the score of the game, right?
Starting point is 01:23:22 We do on the show, you're right. So I'm gonna say this. It's smart of you that you keep yourself out of it because the NFL does not do any advertisement with gambling companies I'm gonna say it's more like 34 21 than it is like okay, okay, that would be the over Okay, my last question row back question. RHOBACK.com. Yeah promo code take 20% off first purchase QZips polos hoodies joggers And we're in the joggers right, the most comfortable clothes in the world. Roback.com, you don't have to be a hot guy to wear a Roback like Aloe
Starting point is 01:23:50 and what Shrager's trying to do right now. Promo code take, go right now, Roback.com, 20% off. Okay, my last question, what is something that's gonna happen between now and the draft that's gonna shock us? Ooh. Is it a job of a higher quarterback getting traded? Could there be a quarterback getting traded? This is good questions.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I think one of these I think one of these star wide receivers will be traded. Oh, I like that. And I'm saying that like that. But like when you look at digs, digs and AJ Brown might not be traded. But like those type of players that are like, these are guys that are for years, we built around the wide receiver. Now it seems like we're building around the tight ends
Starting point is 01:24:31 a little bit more in the running games. I think there might be another big wide receiver trade. I'm trying to go through like, I don't know if Akeen and Allen is a big name, but like there's gonna be a big name. At Cooper cup now is the number two to Pukatakua. Is he traded? Actually McVay loves him though. That traded, I actually McVay loves him.
Starting point is 01:24:45 That's why I'm having Stafford loves him. But like, I think we get one of those big veteran trades. Last year's office was crazy with Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson going through his contract stuff. I don't know if we can top it as far as hysteria goes, but I will say this with Chicago with the Patriots with Washington and with the Giants at the top of the draft, like you have four mega fan bases, like monster fan bases. I think draft season this year is going to be awesome with great
Starting point is 01:25:09 quarterbacks and wide receivers. Oh, I did have one more question that you just brought up fan bases. What fan base gives you the most shit? Because I know I'm like we deal with it. If you talk about everyone in the league, there's one fan base that always feels like they've been slighted or we don't talk about them enough. What's the one that is always up? Actually, it's it's it's I've tried to like so many times address them
Starting point is 01:25:29 and be like guys I'm not I don't dislike like I don't I didn't pick the dolphins to make the playoffs this year. Oh yeah. sensitivity around to a never flew to on my top list and you know even saying the name to a starts off but like at the end of the season they lose the way they lost in Kansas City where it was barely a fight and you're like well they were injured and all the stuff and I'm like for all the shit I took all year about not having the dolphins in the way they lost in Kansas City where it was barely a fight. And you're like, well, they were injured and all the stuff. And I'm like, for all the shit I took all year about not having the dolphins in the playoffs, they lost in the first round as a 60. Like I don't know what to say. Like I got it wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Great. They made the playoffs. But dolphins fans, it's love hate because I do appreciate Mike McDaniel and I do give them a lot of love at times, but I didn't put them in the playoffs this year. And I heard about it all season. Do you ever split it up with the guy with with everyone on the show like all right? You're gonna do the no, that's sure. Yeah, you should last week Kyle did this like real pissing vinegar thing for the buffalo bills And I did one for the Kansas City Chiefs and that felt like it balanced But I were pretty authentic in that like we don't just like all right. This is good for the show
Starting point is 01:26:19 Why don't you do cowboys and I'll do that right? Right and right now it's on site in Kansas City for Hank. They don't like Hank. Yeah, which was for us. We were actually banned from the city of Kansas City for a little bit. Why? Honestly, I don't know. We didn't respect Patrick Moems enough.
Starting point is 01:26:32 But I everything that we said on the show, we always preface with Patrick Moems is the greatest quarterback in the NFL, one of the two greatest quarterbacks of all time. But and then we talk about the. It's it's also a weird dynamic where it's like we are very effusive with our praise for Patrick Mo Holmes because he is the best quarterback. But I get it. It's football fandom.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Nothing makes sense if you're a diehard fan. They don't like that we like Josh Allen. Yeah. That's really what it comes down to. Oh. And we glaze. Yeah. That's the term always. Why there was glaze. We're glazing. We're on that dick. So all the time. Well, no, it wouldn't be.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I mean, we're like, they're right off our dick if we're glazing them right no aren't we sucking their dick okay are we getting glazed by the bills are we bills glazers no we're bills glazers so we're are we sucking their dick no but that would be a oh wait are you talking about the glaze is this Peter's like what the fuck I work no this is interesting me right about the Homer Simpson meme? PFT is right about the fundamental definition of glazing. No, but this is, no, it just- Let's go back to what you guys were talking about, taking to Twitter.
Starting point is 01:27:28 That was funny. It just occurred to me. Maybe the- Hold on, Peter, we're about to find something. Maybe the glaze is saliva from our mouth that's a remnant that remains on the bill's dick. Got it. That's the glazing?
Starting point is 01:27:39 It could be. So we are technically sucking their dick, but it's the after effects of it that's the glaze. We have sucked their dick Is that right Hank? No, I think I think pft's initial point is correct that like glazing is used incorrectly almost all the time Okay, so what is the correct term? Are we sucking their dick? No, we're getting glazed your knee pattern. We're neat That's sucking their dick. Yeah, or playing volleyball. Yeah, uh, Peter. So
Starting point is 01:28:01 or playing volleyball. Yeah. Peter. So Russell Wilson. Peter. Peter, you're still here? We lost you? My brain is on that elevator already. I'm going to bring you back.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I'm going to bring you back. Russell Wilson. Is he going to be at Denver Bronco next year? And if not, is he going to be a starter? Oh. Who's that Russell? You can pick it up. This is Source.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Shawn McVeigh. Hilarious. Sean Payton. Oh, no way. Ask him. No, he's been on the show. He'll probably say he likes you guys. Peter is the number one Sean Glaser. Sean McVeigh.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Sean Payton. McDermott. I like the name Sean McDermott. I'm in. Let's go. I don't know. Look, I think, because I talked to Sean after that all went down. And his whole thing was like, we didn't, I didn't say he's off the team.
Starting point is 01:28:48 He's it's not like Derek Carr, where it's like pack your bags. Don't like he was the number two, those next two games. I went with Stitum and I think Russell Wilson obviously took the high road. And people thought what Peyton did was outrageous. And the things that were said about him, I thought were a little over the top, over a player decision in the media. You'd think he did something right horrible to a bunch of quarterback. I would think they have to look at other directions,
Starting point is 01:29:08 but there also has to be a suitor in someone who wants to take on Russell's contract. So I know Sean likes Russell Wilson and likes him as a guy. And I think that they were just trying to get a kickstart to the season at the end. That sounds like it's bullshit. It's not.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Their offense was struggling at the end. They wanted to go to Stidham. So I think they're gonna have their conversations, but we'll see. Yeah. All right, well, Peter, thank you so much. Hopefully the glazing interlude there doesn't keep you off of our show.
Starting point is 01:29:34 You probably in his head, he was like, Simmons never does this. What the fuck? Simmons doesn't do this. Listen, you weren't part of it. It was our conversation. Yeah. We kept it up.
Starting point is 01:29:43 And I hope I didn't offend any white guys in their 30s and 40s who bought a cool pair of Jordans. No. Because I know how that, I see a lot of that and also now a lot of women do that as well. Listen, just my whole thing with shoes is just wear them. Yeah. Wear your shoes. Don't buy shoes to just look at them. Wear them. Not an endorser for Allo. Really comfortable shoes if you want. Allo.com.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Go for it. Yes. All right. Well, Peter, thank you so much. You're the best. You can watch them on Good Morning Football. Maybe see you in Vegas. I want to come to Chicago now. Forget Vegas. I want to come to Chicago all the time. Come ball. I want to hang with Mince. Yeah. Come watch some games with us. Hang with Mince. He'll probably get you in trouble. Mince has got better sources than you do. He does. How does he fall for that? He's scoping effort. Yeah. How does he fall for that? He just he's Mince How does he fall for that? He's just, he's Mincey.
Starting point is 01:30:25 And who's the guy from this office who was doing it? It was just some, it was a couple of our guys. We just thought like, let's just screw with them. And also the best part, this was all Mincey getting duped when Lane Kiffin was potentially going to Alabama. Sources tell me. And he said he posted text change where he's like, I'm not going to reveal the source. And then he said, a source at the Seattle Times.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Seattle Times. I mean, there's like he said a source at the Seattle time. Seattle time. I mean, there's like two people writing there in the sports section. What are we talking about? Men see. Yeah, I love listening to you guys. Congrats on all the success in Chicago. And it's cool to watch from afar.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I'm jealous. It seems like you guys have a blast. And it feels like it's only it's only getting bigger and bigger. Shrager is a number is like a real like Barso. I just watch about Frank and Men see. It's like he was when Jerry got the whole one. Like I think like a real like Barso. I just watch it. Text me about Frank and Minci. It's like he was when Jerry when Jerry got the whole one, like I think like a tier like one lone tier like came up. Yeah. Watching real time. Yeah. I tweeted about it in real time, like during like the heat of like NFL,
Starting point is 01:31:15 like stuff. Jerry said he's like Peter Schreger, Tom Brady, everyone. All the guys. All right. Well, thank you so much, Peter. Awesome guys. Thank you. Everyone all the guys. All right. Well, thank you so much Peter. Awesome guys. Thank you Peter Schreger was brought to you by our great friends over at Chevy I love Chevy I've got a Chevy I spent my own hard-earned money on a Chevy because I believe in Chevy's and the Chevy Silverado has commanding grit It's got unstoppable grit legendary capability and dependability to we've all spent time seat time as they call it in the biz behind the wheel of a Silverado and we're not just truck guys, we're Chevy truck guys. You know about the ZR2 family of trucks lifted ready for anything straight from the factory.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Now Silverado is taking it to the next level with even more Silverado truck tech like available supercruise. Only supercruise lets you drive hands free and toe hands free on more than 400,000 miles of compatible roads like available supercruise. Only supercruise lets you drive hands-free and toe hands-free on more than 400,000 miles of compatible roads. With over 138 million miles of hands-free driving by customers, supercruise will help you get to your adventure energized and it will help you drive you home.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Go to chevy.com. You can check out Silverado. Build your own Silverado online and learn important details about supercruise. Okay, let's wrap up. Firefest of the week. Henry, what's up? What's up guys? What's up Henry? Henry.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Hey guys. Henry. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. I'm sad that this is the second or last weekend of football. That's not my firefest, but it's just dawning on me.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Just got to embrace it. Some days are going to be great. Then you get the combine. March, Madness, March, Madness, college basketball has been brazy. A lot of a lot of good teams lose. Are there any good teams in college basketball this year? Yes. Yes. You cons good. Houston's good. North Carolina is good.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Hello. Is good. Purdue. Well, I mean, yeah. That's I liked I like Houston. I like Tennessee. Yeah, this is my two guys this year. Okay, Hank. That was college basketball preview. We are a week and a half out. This week, I had, you know, the whole month I've been taking it, trying to take it seriously and getting prepared, learning a song on the guitar, writing a lot. And on Monday was the first time I was like, all right, I'm gonna turn my camera on and start to practice reading the material
Starting point is 01:33:35 and putting the show together, getting things in order, getting the videos and pictures and stuff I need. And I realized while I was reading off know, reading off the things that I wrote that I thought were funny and realizing how hard it is to, you know, present or whatever, like speak publicly alone, how bad it's going to be. And in my anxiety has been at an all time high, I've probably lost like every night I get in bed early before midnight and I'm up to like 3am.m. Just this brain just It's gonna be a relief here. It's gonna be relief when you're done
Starting point is 01:34:10 You know what Hank? I'll the good thing is no matter what it's only 60 minutes and it's probably gonna be like the worst 60 minutes of my life, but Yeah, when it's over no matter what when it's over it will be over. I'll give you a compliment I've been watching your progress on guitar Hank has it's over, it will be over. I'll give you a compliment. I've been watching your progress on guitar. Hank has learned guitar pretty well for like a true beginner. Yeah. You sound good.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Yeah, I mean, I gave some way in my joke last time, but this will probably be part of it too, is I've spent probably like 30 hours learning guitar for like three minutes of my stand-up set. Yeah. When I could have spent that doing something else, but I do, I have enjoyed it. You sound good. The guitar, the guitar is one of the only things that helps me relax.
Starting point is 01:34:51 You're going to be great, sweetie. You're going to kill it. I'm excited. Yeah, no, I'm not. It is what it is. It just is what it is. It is what it is. Firefress the week.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Lost a lot of sleep this week. Oh, you're you're also like last night I was up till four. You're performing on Wednesday night, Tuesday night. Oh, Tuesday night next week. That's no Wednesday. Wednesday night. Next week, Wednesday night. Oh, Chicago.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Yeah. That's only like 10 minutes. That's yeah, but it'll be good. It'll be good to get you up on stage. Yeah. You got this, Hank. This is going to be great. The AWL is excited.
Starting point is 01:35:28 But there's nothing. Yeah, that that part is like, just don't watch. Don't buy it. No one watch. No one buy it. Don't attend. Don't come. Don't do it. I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come so hard. You know what I'm gonna come to.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Okay. Alright, Jay. Nice. Alright, PFT. Like you can see the thousand miles yard stare with Hank right now. It's becoming very real for Hank. He's saying it and he's like, he's feeling it as you watch this. I'm so glad that we didn't have to do this. Yeah, so glad. Yeah, like that. I mean, you guys would have done better at it, but I also would be curious to
Starting point is 01:35:56 see how you would have tackled it. But yeah, last night, we were at dinner and Rowan started talking about it. And then like, he was like, what are you going to do? We were walking through it. He was just, you know just being nice, being conversational and it just, it got bad. Hank's already started to blame us for this by the way. I'm not blaming anyone. No, you did last night, last night at dinner, Hank was like, these assholes are making me do this.
Starting point is 01:36:16 People were like, why are you doing this performance? Hank, is it because of those two right there? No, we all, we were in the same deal. Right. And we would have had to do, we lost it. You should have just picked better games. Yeah, I'm not playing you guys. Yeah. Okay. You're not mad at us. Okay. PFT your firefest. My firefest of the week is so it is our birthdays next week. This is the last week that we have as 38 year olds. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Before we turn 39. Hank has been saying that we're 40 for the last month. That's like, no you have. I mean one conversation where I knew you guys were getting up there in the 30s and I was like, you guys are turning 40. But I- Hank's telling people that we're 40. I did it in a questioning way because I wasn't sure and you guys were like, I can't believe you just said that.
Starting point is 01:37:00 No, we're almost 39. It's a realization that's slowly creeping over us. But for my birthday on Saturday, I've actually reserved time for myself in F 18 flight simulators and a Boeing flight simulator. So I'm going to see if I can actually land a plane and fly in F 18. My firefest, that sounds awesome. My firefest about the whole thing is the company that I'm going to be flying in their simulator, they also sell simulators.
Starting point is 01:37:24 And I I am like 90% sure that on Saturday I'm going to spend $10,000. Why don't we get one for the office? On an F-18 simulator. Why don't we get one for the office? Good question, Big Cat. I wanted that and you said no. When?
Starting point is 01:37:37 When we were talking about what to put in the office. I don't remember that conversation, but we could do it. I talked about an F-18 simulator. I don't remember saying no to that. We could do it. I heard a lot of no's regarding the do it. Well, if it was like building an entire. Yeah, I don't think that. Yeah, no, it 100 percent happened.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Yes, I was the one thing I wanted in the in the office. Yeah. Yeah, we had a conversation. It was no. Yeah. But I'm saying it's yes. Now. Where? Oh, that's the problem. How big is it? Dude, it's not the size of an actual F 18.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Yeah, but I was I'm saying yes, depending on like, yes. If you can put it in your studio, you can have it. You have a whole studio. I've got, well, there's other places in the office. We could find it. I'm going to say yes.'s other places in the office. We could find it. I'm gonna say yes. No, no. No?
Starting point is 01:38:27 I'm saying no. No, I heard yes. And quite frankly, what are you going to do if I just show up with an F-18 simulator? I think we'll just put it somewhere. Yeah, you'll just put it somewhere. Yeah, in your studio. Where you want to put it?
Starting point is 01:38:37 Yeah, I'll put it anywhere. Yeah. We'll bring it to the back door. But yeah, the firefests, I'm probably going to spend 10 grand on an F-18 simulator this weekend. No, so I have a house. I do own a house that's accurate. I think you should buy it and we'll put it somewhere.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I would probably get more flight time in the office. Yeah, we'll find somewhere. We can find somewhere. Yeah, so I'm pretty excited about that. We can find somewhere. I'm gonna be in Macadose and studio. No, we'll find somewhere. There's a giant question mark desk in there.
Starting point is 01:39:03 We'll find somewhere. There's no room in Macadose. PFT, do you know what? Just buy it and. We'll find somewhere. There's no room in the macros. PFT, you know what? Just buy it and then we'll figure it out. Green screen room. We'll figure it out later. We'll figure it out later. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:11 That's okay. My game plan is going to be purchase it. Have it dropped off at the office. I'm now aligned with you. So it's us versus Hank. We can win this battle. Now it's someone else's problem to deal with. But yeah, it is going to be fun.
Starting point is 01:39:23 And I'm going to be able to fly a plane and achieve all my dreams, because I'm afraid of heights, but I love flying planes. So this you're flying a plane on the plane yesterday. I was yeah, I was doing a flight simulator on the plane yesterday. Yeah, it was wild. So yeah, that's my that's my firefest. Jake, can you bring Peter Stragers jacket out to the lobby? He forgot it. Oh, my other firefest is I just realized right now I left my Apple watch in the shower at the hotel. Oh, you got to go back and get
Starting point is 01:39:49 it. Yeah, you got to go back and get it. All right. My fire first I got two. One is I didn't realize this was a thing, but I pretty sure Max wants us dead. Yeah. So we were flying from Chicago, New York yesterday. And this is totally independent because I mentioned it to Hank and he mentioned. So what happened with what did Max say to you? Yesterday we were we had there's like a couple of us trying to set up a tetherball pole in the gym and Max kind of like not
Starting point is 01:40:19 creepily but just sauntered over kind of like a hovered over a little bit like he didn't walk with purpose. He just kind of like hovered over and in my head, I was like, what is Max doing? Is he going to help us? He didn't. He just kind of walked over, walked past me and was like, hope you have a safe, safe trip Hank, safe travels and then walked away. Jake didn't take his jacket. What is he doing?
Starting point is 01:40:40 Who's jacket did he take? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's Jake's jacket. Oh, okay. All right. All right. But he just kind of walked past the group and was like safe travels Hank Hope you have a good trip and then kept walking and I was in my head like
Starting point is 01:40:52 That was weird. It was weird and then when I was walking out of the door max said to me turn me said I hope you have a really safe flight Really say so he wants us dead. I explained to him that I was like it's me PFT and Hank So playing together if we die your life is over So wait when when he said to Hank was he it sounds like it was kind of a normal way to say like safe travels And then Hank you said like what does that mean and then he got that idea? And then rolled it over to you and really leaned into I don't think I I didn't even think I, I don't think I, I didn't say that to him. Yeah. It was in my head.
Starting point is 01:41:26 I was like, that was. He wants us dead. And I, I, I tried to express to him that like, of all the people in the world that are rooting for us to not die, what? No, no, is just, no, leave it for him. Oh, leave it. Leave it for him in the lobby.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Yeah. Of all the people who don't, who need us alive, Max is at the top of the list. Like I have life insurance. My kids would be okay. Like Max will not be okay. He's got nothing, but he wants us dead. What about, what about memes?
Starting point is 01:41:56 Memes, memes is a fucking, he's a rascal. He held to quote Peter Stray. He means a rascal. He would, I would, I would bet memes would find something pretty quickly. You would land on, he's got rascal, you know, tendency. We I would bet memes would find something pretty quickly. He would land on. He's got rascal, you know, tendency. He's got a million on TikTok. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:10 He means to figure it out. We got, we got a lot of podcasts at Barstool Sports that needs somebody who's a full-time employee to just roast them. So memes would be able to find, find a spot, I'm sure. Yeah, Max, I don't know what his deal is. I don't know what, I don't know why Max is. It almost felt like he was like, it's like a weird, almost... He was upset he didn't come type thing and like passive aggressive.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Yeah, we're gonna face him and do the lottery ball in a second, so we'll find out. But my other firefest and I want to apologize to Pills fans, I feel like... Enough time has passed. If you were watching us on the stream on Sunday, you notice I was wearing a hat for the majority of the game. In the last five minutes, I took off my hat, shout out to 47 brand, they re-released a bunch of Super Bowl hats.
Starting point is 01:42:56 The hat I took off and was wearing all day is this hat. And it is the Bill's giant Super Bowl wide right. So I was wearing this hat for the majority of the game and then the Bill's lost with a wide right. I feel awful about it. This also just shows you that like jinxes are real, vibes are real, I'm sorry. It's big of you to apologize for jinxing the Buffalo Bill's.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Yeah. I know that, you know, as somebody that's in sports media, if you ever did something that would jinx the Buffalo Bills and outwardly, you know, ruin their season, you were the type of person to say that you're sorry for it, which is very big. I don't think everybody would be like that. No, not everyone would do that, but I am sorry. It just, I grabbed, like I said, I bought a bunch of them. I just grabbed this one and then it happened. And I was like, I, you could see in the stream, I took my hat off because I was like feeling where it was going and to be wearing the wide right hat while a wide right happens, bad vibes. So apologies, apologies. I'll burn this hat for everyone. Although 47 brand makes the best hat. There's also a good, I feel like most bills fans opted out of sports podcasts on Monday.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Yeah. I would. I certainly would if I was a bills fan. I'd probably not even be back, but we're probably getting a big percentage of them back for this week's game. And now you just yeah, show that to me. Yeah. All right. My bad guys. My bad. Hand up. All right. Jake finishes off. Yeah. So a few weeks ago, you guys requested a trophy case for the studio. Yes. Eventually it got there and I tried setting it up by myself and it was impossible. I was just staring at it for an hour. The instruction manual had no words. Yeah. It's a glass trophy case. You did a great job, Jake.
Starting point is 01:44:38 We now have a Lombardi like fantasy football Lombardi. Oh, we're going to need a real Lombardi. All right. It's going to be expensive. Yeah, that's fine. We're, we're gonna need a real and Barty. All right, it's gonna be expensive. Yeah, that's fine. We're just, we're buying a flight simulator, so yeah, we can afford it. We're gonna get an AVN award. Yeah, but it's got all of them.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Yeah, but it took like three hours. Shout out Ryan in Chicago for helping me put it together, but it was. You can know your strengths. I'm not a building guy. Yeah, I'm not, I really wanted to order a task rabbit and just like let it happen. Yeah, you had Ryan do it. But I had Ryan. But you did a good job. I'm not. I really want to order a task rabbit and just like let it happen. Yeah, you had Ryan do it.
Starting point is 01:45:06 But I had Ryan, but you did a good job. The trophy case rocks. Let me know what else you guys want. I'll order the trophies. Okay. I love that. All right. I'm going to call Max right now. We'll do the lottery balls. By the way, we got some big interviews coming up just so everyone get excited. Super Bowl week is going to be great. Big interviews coming up. Big, big interviews coming up just so everyone get excited. Super Bowl Week is going to be great. Big interviews coming up. Big, big interviews coming up.
Starting point is 01:45:27 One's at the. They're so big. They're going to be very happy. Almost too big. Are they almost too big? Almost. I said almost too big. They're actually just the right size. Hey Max, real quick before you do the lottery ball, why the fuck do you want us dead? What? Why do you want us dead? You do you want us dead you were hoping our plane would crash That's actually the exact opposite of what I was saying. Okay, and also Hank Gaslight central trying to say that I Say that he doesn't do anything. I've never once insinuated that Yeah, I've been towards me. All right. That's more towards me But you when you tell someone you hope they have a really safe flight, that is 100% being sarcastic.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Yeah, it's not true. Yeah, I was hoping that you were safe and you ended up being safe though. Really is when you say like, have a safe flight, that's totally normal. Really changes the entire tone of that sentence. Well, I mean, you could have like a, there could be turbulence. Yeah, you want to, he wants us dead. All right. I want no turbulence. I wanted it to be turbulence. Yeah, you want to he wants to stay. All right, I want to know turbulence.
Starting point is 01:46:25 I wanted it to be completely safe and sound. And you guys have a lovely boy. Max, I why are you wearing a Leonard Skinner t-shirt right now? Stevie Ray Vaughn. It's not true. I'm wearing I'm wearing this. OK, all right. You ready for numbers? All right. This is this is honestly tough because I can't look. Yeah, you can't look.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Seventy one. Make sure you can't look. 71. Make sure Max isn't looking. 18. 18 for Jay. Ask the other one. 20. 40. 8.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Wait, do I click Select? I click Start. You might have to hit Restart so it drops the old ball. And then you just do Start and then Select is how you hit it. All right. And put it on there. Yeah, yeah. All right. And put it on there. Yeah, yeah. All right, go.
Starting point is 01:47:14 He's not looking. The ball is there. It's seven. Is it seven? Two. Two. Oh, two. Deeter.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Two. Two. OK. All right, thank you, two. Two. Okay. All right. Thank you, Max. Yeah. Hopefully we have a really safe flight back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:30 I hope you have a really safe flight. See, he wants us dead. All right. Goodbye. If we die, you're fucked. If we, if we die, I want to say on the record right now, if we die in a plane crash, part of my take podcast, do not hire Max for any job ever for the rest of his life.
Starting point is 01:47:45 I want for one on success rate. I want him blackballed. I want him blackballed from the world. Alright, goodbye. He wants us dead. But really, love you guys. So I don't know what I have to say or say anyway The days are my days to find you Shine it away So I'll be coming for your love again Shine it away So I'll be coming for your love again
Starting point is 01:48:21 Shine it on me Take me, take me, take me, take me Take me, take me,, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh me In the bed, take me, say it, then tell me Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me I will go To the future I hear you go, you don't do your job
Starting point is 01:49:30 Do the same and ease it all out Just to play my friend crazy way You are the things I've got to remember You shine on me I'll be coming for you pretty remember You shine on me I'll be coming for you in a pretty light You shine on me I'll be coming for you in a pretty light Take on me
Starting point is 01:49:57 Take on me Take on me, take on me, take on me Take on me, take on me, take on me, I'll make you Take on me, take on me Take on me

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.