Pardon My Take - PGA Golfer Joel Dahmen, Full Swing Review, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Chicago Move FAQ’s

Episode Date: March 1, 2023

Somehow we missed our own 7 year anniversary of doing PMT. We talk Lebron, Rodgers seemingly being done with the packers and more (00:00:00-00:14:52). We then review Full Swing the Netflix golf series (00:14:52-00:37:45). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Patrick Kane trade and Victor Wembanyana hype gets going even more (00:37:45-01:04:12). Joel Dahmen joins the show to talk about his episode, being a pro golfer, his relationship with his Caddy (Geno joins the show) and tons more (01:04:12-01:52:36). We finish with FAQ’s from listeners on the Chicago move (01:52:36-02:14:00).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have our full swing review Netflix documentary on the full swing show. Very good documentary. Go watch it. We also have Joel Damon on the show.

He was episode two, three awesome episode, talked to him about his golf career. He might be the coolest golfer out there. We've talked to some cool golfers. We have. He's just a good dude. He's a good dude, great dude, great caddy. Geno. Great interview with him.

Geno makes a cameo on the interview. We're going to do Chicago FAQs at the end of the show. And we're going to get some other stuff as well. Great show for everyone. And it's brought to you by our friends at Barstool Sportsbook. Barstool Exclusives. Picks and Parley is from Big Cat El Pres and other personalities to follow or fade. Tons of ways to bet, daily odds boosts, live in game bets, move the line plus teasers,

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This is March, January, February, Izzo, April, April, yeah, seven years, seven years, happy seven years. Oh fuck, yes, I got you. Maybe we should have started with that. We've been doing this podcast for seven years. Oh, okay, that's March Madness, that has to do with the seven years, got it, okay. It's the seven year itch, means we're going to start cheating on each other. Yeah, we're going to start looking, getting the wandering eye, yes, holy fuck.

I'm going to go in Mean Girl podcast. Is it really seven years? Well, no, not technically because, yeah, because we debuted part of my take on February 29th was when we recorded our first episode, leap day. Yes, seven years. So we haven't really, yeah, we're one and three quarters years. Damn, and in the first episode we talked about Chris Jones' dick flopping out, because it was combine season.

Hey, also happy 500th episode guys. Yes, 500th episode. All right, huge, massive. Also shout out our friend Nick Trani, he just finished his first year at Barstool. Wow. Big day. It's a huge day. Yeah, it's just a huge day.

No, I know. He likes to just go around telling people that and congratulate him, he's been here like three years. Yeah. All right, so combine week, we're going to Indy, we got some good interviews. Oh, Jake is, Jake, play the music, go ahead, play the fucking music. Thank you, thank you. It is March.

It is, the feels do start, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and you know it pretty soon, we're going to get, hello friends. Yeah. Last one. Mm-hmm. No, he says at the Masters too. Yeah, yeah. I feel like his alma mater is a top team.

It's in Houston, his last final four. Oh, you didn't listen to the show with Titus. I did. That's what we talked about. That was his big thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be, it's going to be a March to remember friends.

It will be. Yeah. It's because I remember every March. I'm so excited. It is, it is my, it's not the best sports month, I think that still is October. It might be second. I think it's the best sports weekend of the year, the first weekend of March Madness. That Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Not to go hipster on you PFT, but I'm a conference championship week coming by too. Yeah, I mean, but we're not going to sit here with a straight face and say conference championship week is better. More games. Than week one of March Madness. More games. I disavow that. I love conference championship weekend.

It's like eating a giant appetizer where you fill up a little bit too much, where the entree comes on. You're like, am I going to be able to handle this? You take two bites of that entree and you're like, yeah, you know what? I can do it. Listen, it's okay. Real ball heads, they love conference championship week than everyone else in America watches for March Madness.

It's fun. Real, real ball heads know that conference championship week started today. Real, real ball heads know that conference championship week started yesterday. Yup. Bellarmine with a buzzer beater over North Florida. I don't know because, no, because, because it real, real, real ball heads know that Bellarmine can't make the end of the year. Queens College.

Queens, who also have been eligible, they beat Florida Gulf Coast. And today, Tuesday, we have four tournaments in action, including the Sun Belt. Yeah. The FT's Jamie Dukes have a bye. Let's go, Dukes. Yup. Three wins away. Got a chance to get in there.

All right. So before we do our full swing review, what else is going on? I know we had an update on the never ending Aaron Rodgers saga that just basically, now the vibe is everyone saying it feels like a divorce is imminent. It feels like, I think Jeff Darlington said it was the, the two sides are talking, not like they're getting, uh, figuring out a way to keep this together more, how to amicably split. Okay.

Conscious uncoupling. Uncoupling, right? That's what Gwyneth Patro taught us. Yes. Yeah. Uh, I, I think that Aaron Rodgers is probably going to leave. I didn't ever think that before, even when he was coming back, when he was trying to figure out if he was going to play, I always got the feeling like he would be back in, in Green

Bay. Like that was his home. This time I would act, I would be surprised if Aaron Rodgers was a Green Bay backer. I think I would, as well, I don't want to fall for it again, but it does feel a little bit different this time around, especially they had so combine all the coaches talk and Matt before I think, or maybe it was Gutenkest or whatever, however you say his fucking name, uh, said Jordan Love is just starting quarterback, the NFL, like he was like, this guy can start.

So it does feel like they're turning the page ready for Jordan Love error. Yeah. And if you're the New York Jets, you're going to be, you're kind of all in at this point on Aaron Rodgers. That's why you hired Nathaniel Hackett. He's over one lifetime and getting Aaron Rodgers to the town that he's in. Yes. But I feel like that's, that's the main reason why they got him in like they knew something.

They took Derek Carr out on that nice date just so that Aaron could see them in the restaurant and get a little bit jealous and be like, what, they don't want me. I do think that Aaron Rodgers is going to be a jet next year. I would, I, I want him to go to the Titans or something because I was thinking about it. The Jets. I have long, long standing take that once Aaron Rodgers leaves Green Bay, I will root for him because I think it would be funny if you want a title, uh, without the Packers.

Like if you, if you want a Super Bowl in his first year, uh, off the Packers, but thinking about it more, I can't root for him if Billy is just being like, this guy's so good. Yeah. I feel bad for you. Yeah. Like I don't know what it's like. It would kill me. Like Titans are like, I don't have to worry about, I could see the Titans on paper last

year would made a lot more sense than this year because if he thinks that he doesn't have weapons in Green Bay, I know, then going to Tennessee right now is not a good option for him. Uh, I also think that Tennessee just screams Carson Wentz to me. Yeah. It feels like a Carson Wentz situation. I don't think Carson Wentz is going anywhere to start. Definitely.

Well, he's not going to start. Definitely not. But he will be going somewhere. Who cares? He should find back up. He should just retire. Yeah. He should just go kill ducks full time.

Yeah. Or the Raiders for Aaron Rogers, which would be fun. Or what about this? The Panthers. Oh, Frank Reich. Oh, because I don't think Frank Reich ever hated Carson Wentz. I think they liked each other, but Mr. Ursay got on the horn and was like, I can't do another year.

Yeah. Respect to Mr. Ursay for that. Hmm. Well, we'll see more drama. I hope they just do it soon. They're not. Yeah. They're also, yeah.

The other news is the Bears are officially shopping number one, duh. No duh. I don't think that will happen. I was I was reading up about like when it usually goes down. I think the earliest was like March 17th was maybe Sam Darnold or someone in the last few years where a first round pick gets traded. So we'll be mid March before we have some like real movement. Yeah.

The way the combine works is a bunch of front office people take like a mid winter trip to Indy. They all get drunk together and then somebody makes a drunken handshake deal and then they come back and have to renegotiate the drunken handshake deal because it turns out that one guy was way drunker than the other guy. Yes. And so then there's about a two week time span after that where the deals that get made actually get signed.

And the big news about the combine this year, the big storyline is going to be pretty much all Bryce Young's height. Yeah. Well, a lot of truthers out there, a lot of people saying that he's listed at five, ten and a half, one ninety five. People are saying he's more like five, nine, one eighty. A lot of truthers. I'm a five, eleven truth.

I think he's five, ten and a half, which is what Todd McShay said. Yeah. And if you're five, ten and a half, then you can lie to yourself and be like, OK, he's five, eleven. And my advice to Bryce Young would actually be, don't worry about the height. You can't change your height. Trust me, I've tried. You can have the limb, limb, lengthening surgery.

That's like two years, not worth it. However, you can become a sturdy, a solid five, eleven guy. Yeah. And just put on 15 pounds. That's the problem. The height we've kind of debunked. You'd rather your quarterbacks be taller than shorter. That's just a fact.

But there are guys who have played well, who have not been the tallest guys in the world. He is the the the combo of shortest, slightest. Yeah. That we've seen in a very long time. You just got to have people say like Russell Wilson. He's sturdy. Yeah. He's thick. He's dummy thick.

If I'm Bryce Young. Yeah, Kyler Murray's got some ass. He has a little bit of ass to him. If I'm if I'm Bryce Young, you don't have to worry about running the forty. No one's going to ask you to run the forty this week. No one's going to ask you to throw this week. I think he's saving that for his product at all. He's literally showing up to show how much weight he's getting.

He's just showing up to be measured. Yeah. So just show up. Just get fucking fat as hell. Yeah. Just do nothing but order seamless to your couch all week, watch Netflix. That's your pro. I would be I would be elite at preparing for the combine.

If I was Bryce Young. Put some tungsten up your ass. There you go. Why not? Yeah. Like what do you think they would act? I mean, they're not going to actually like go into his pants. They go out in their in their underwear.

They might do a metal detector. You think so? Or a MRI. I don't know. Like that's something that most guys probably wouldn't. I don't think they've ever thought about like someone might cheat on. He could just be like, I have no idea how that got there. Yeah, this tungsten.

Oh, I always carry that in my ass. Yeah, it's my secret power. But yeah, that's going to be the big story. I'm trying to think what else is going on while we have full swing. LeBron. Yeah, LeBron's ankle. LeBron's foot. He says he's going to take what two weeks to reevaluate his foot.

So that's now we're down to the most important 13 games of his career. Yep. So LeBron is out for the record. I did not miss a single podcast when I broke my foot. He has a pretty much broken foot, basically a broken foot. But in reality, I think we can probably close the season. Close the close the book on this Laker season. It was so funny, too, because it looked, I don't know,

if you tune into any coverage on Monday of the Lakers big win against the Mavs. But basically wall to wall coverage on ESPN being like the Lakers are now the team to beat in the West. Yeah, so much so that Zach Lowe on his podcast, like went a little behind the curtain and he said that a producer on ESPN called him up and was like, hey, can you come on NBA Live or whatever it's called? The jump, maybe, I don't know. Can you come on because everyone in the panel thinks the Lakers are like would

beat the Grizzlies or the team to beat now in the West. We can't find anyone who doesn't think that and like you might be that guy. And he's like, I'm I'm off today, so I can't come on. But yes, I think it's ridiculous that everyone thinks the Lakers are going to win the West because they beat the Mavs on Sunday. They're not the Warriors. They're not in like flip the switch mode. The way you could you could start the playoffs and Steph Curry could play his

first game of the season and I'd be like, yeah, the Warriors are going to flip the switch. Yeah. And they'll be fine. But it was just so funny. The Lakers they've they've had the switch flipped for the last three years. They've been a perpetual state of having the switch in the on position. Yeah. And it's short circuits. Yeah. But it's so funny they had to call Zach Lowe and be like, hey, we need someone who will disagree with the Lakers being like the title

contenders now after one game. So can you help us? He's like, nope, sorry. Yeah. So yeah, that game out of the plan. They're half game out of the plan. Yes. That might make the LeBron. Well, playing LeBron is going to miss two weeks, two weeks. And then they're going to reassess most important 13 games of his career.

Yeah. It's not one thing. Big Cat, you're forgetting, though. It's not in LeBron's DNA to miss the playoffs two seasons in a row. That's true. It's not. I am a little LeBron. I am a little bummed because I did want to see what happened in these most important 23 regular season games of his career. I was I was curious. Yeah.

Like I would have been nice. I don't want LeBron to win another title, but it would have been nice to see him, you know, go on a little run, maybe have like one or two playoffs series with some iconic moments, maybe lose to Chris Paul. Well, that would have been fun. The bottom line is that the Lakers haven't been shit since they lost Caruso. Yep. That's a fact. He was the straw that started the drink.

That's a fact. And they won't. Yeah. Serious question. Do you think Alex Caruso is the last person in the United States to get arrested for weed? Yeah, probably. I think he might be. He's definitely. Yeah. I mean, especially I still don't understand how that happened when he's like, he's been like, dude, I'm Alex Caruso played on the Aggies.

Yeah. What are you doing here? It's college station. Yeah. What are you? He's lucky. They didn't put him on death row for that. Yeah. He probably is though. That's probably a good point. All right. Should we do some full swing talk? It was awesome. It was a great documentary.

Yeah. And we have Joel Damon coming up. Great interview with him talking about his episode. Where do we want to start? Big picture. Overall, what would you guys rate it? I give it. Two under par. OK, I give it three and a half balls. OK, I give it really good, but not as good as Drive to Survive. Yeah, I'd agree with that.

I thought it was awesome. I thought it was I I've I've been to watch every episode I've watched some of the episodes twice, so I liked it a lot. But and especially because Drive to Survive is now out of and watching the new season. I think part of it is because Drive to Survive is teams. So it's kind of easy to be like, you know, team team one, team two. They did the same thing with players, but there's just so many players

that it felt like there was a lot of stuff being missed because the fields are so big and they can only focus in on whatever it was. Eight players the whole season. Yeah, I would say the so I went three. Yeah, three and a half balls out of five. I think you could get to four and a half balls if you just had Patrick Reed in it. Like there was no I know that the live tension was

they tried to build it up, but it didn't feel until like Rory said fuck you, Phil, make sure that stays in. There wasn't that like super tense moment where like Hank is talking about and Drive to Survive. You know these guys hate each other. You know who hates who and it's like they're on camera together. You didn't you never it never really felt like we had that. The only bad guy that they really had was it was it would just be like

shots of Greg Norman walking outside with sunglasses on. Right. And he does look like a shark when he's walking around. So you're like, OK, this is the bad guy. I get even the guys that joined live on there like DJ when they were talking to him. I think DJ is the only one that was openly, brutally honest with it. Who was like, yeah, I get paid way more money for playing way less golf. Yes. So that and if everybody had said that when they go to the live tour, I think people would have had a much better understanding

of like why they're doing it. And they would have been more understanding of like, OK, I get it. You have a family to look after. There was one moment where Brooks, when he was talking about it, we should probably embrace debate on this. He said he has the opportunity to set up his grandkids, grandkids by going to the live tour. That's a lot of great. That's I don't I'm trying to do the math.

We don't know how much money Brooks got. If let's say he got a hundred million dollars. Is that grandkids, grandkids money? No, it depends. If your grandkids are smart enough to like go to college for five generations. Right. And do you know how much taxes and shit? And then also you're going to have a shithead generation. That always happens with every generation. Like there's always what's the old saying?

Like the first generation builds, the second generation maintains the third generation destroys it. Yeah, I think each generation will have their Hunter Biden. Yeah, which will just take they'll there will be one kid. Let's say Brooks has three kids and then those three kids each have three kids. How many are we at right now? Nine. That would be two generations. So nine kids, twelve, right?

Because you get the great kids and then you need to get to the three kids. You have three kids. Yeah. So basically our grandparents, nine kids, nine kids. It'll be our grandparents to our grandkids because our grandkids will be. Congratulations. I didn't know you were expecting. It'll be too above us and too below us. So yeah, that's too much. That's too much.

That's that. That's so we're talking about like, yeah, our this is our grandparents, grandparents. We're talking about like 150 years ago in fucking Europe or wherever the fuck. Yeah, I don't know what my great, great grandparents did besides get smashed by an elevator. Yeah. They have you ever watched that show, by the way? I think it's on PBS who you go. The guy goes through the history with like famous people.

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's awesome. Yeah, they had they had one where that Larry David was actually related. Yeah, Bernie Sanders. Yes, that one. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Those are those rule. But yeah. So anyway, Brooks, we're going to have Brooks back on. I know people think that we have like some issue with him. We do not. He is definitely going to come back on.

Maybe talk about this episode. But his episode, I felt bad for I did, too. I was in a bad place. It was the most human he's shown other than like on camera. He's been human otherwise. But I felt bad. It felt like golf is such a like miserable game that if you lose even a little bit, you start questioning everything.

Yeah, it's it's it's very much played in your own brain. And with Brooks, he had the ability to just turn it on for majors and he just didn't give a shit about golf when it wasn't a major championship. And then once you start, once you get like a little crack in that confidence that you have and you're unable to turn it on at any point, now he would kill to win any tournament and it doesn't work like that. He hasn't built up that muscle to care about the small stuff enough. And then once you start screwing up in the small times,

then your your entire confidence just gets destroyed. You can't the nice thing about playing team sports is that you always have somebody else to blame it on. Even if you're not doing it publicly, you can always lie to yourself. And you're all your friends. Yeah, you tell your friends, guys, fucking asshole, you can tell your wife. You can tell yourself. Be like, yeah, you know what, I would have made that.

I would have gotten that first down if my line had blocked for me a little bit better, you know, like there are those lies that you can tell in golf. You can't really there's nobody to blame but yourself. It sucks, sucks. And I so the one funny thing that happened in that episode, actually, I was I hit up Brooks and I was like, just watch your episode. Like this kind of it's brutal to watch you have to go through this. And he said that in the in the scene when he had the triggered

sweatshirt with his mom, he said that he had just lost all time bad beat March Madness. So that was part of why he was like, I wish they had kept it in because it like that actually says that Brooks might have it again. Yeah, that was great composure. Yeah, yeah, I mean, he definitely looked down the dumps. Maybe it was mostly because of that loss. Maybe you had nothing to do with golf whatsoever.

My feedback for Brooks. I have two pieces of feedback in Brooks. You can take these or leave these. We love you no matter what, just the way you are. The hair, the blonde hair might might be time to change that up. Yeah, might be time because he looks like he's got the whole like late 90s M&M thing going on. Yeah, Timberlake might be time to just to maybe just dye the hair

or maybe cut the hair off. Yeah, the other piece of feedback. You should play with your dog more. You should play with your dog. Your dog really wanted to play with you, Brooks. Yeah, and you looked like at times that you didn't want to play with your very good dog. I think it's got to be so weird having just cameras in your own home

following you around being like, so you used to be sick. What happened? Yeah, I would just I'd probably flip out and just like get the fuck out of my house. And I'm so dumb when I was watching this show. I was like, I can't believe that they somehow randomly put cameras and production crews with the golfers that were making all that news that week. Like, can you can you believe that they had a group falling around Fitzgerald?

Or excuse me, Fitzpatrick, when he won the US Open, can you believe they had a camber crew falling around Mito? Yeah, when he choked away the PGA and I was like, oh, yeah, they probably had a lot of different crews and they just use the ones that. Yes, do you think do you think Brooks actually didn't know who won the Masters? I actually I think his answer was honest in that he knew it. But like straight off, he couldn't give it to you like instant. Yeah, I got that because he was like, this is bad that I can't remember.

Sheffield, OK, see, that was kind of similar. I blanked on it for a second there, but I knew that. Yeah, it was that was a tough episode. The other episodes, my a couple of my favorite episodes, I loved obviously Joel Damon, which we're going to get to just like the coolest dude in the world in Polter episodes. Like, I don't know, dude, I don't really I don't really need to sit in the closet and watch you like pick out your outfits pants, though, for 15 minutes.

But he wears weird pants. Yeah, he will. The funny fact about that that I've learned this year afterwards, watching that where they focused on his pants and his outfits the whole time, live in an effort to make the teams more organized and be able to follow better or making the teams wear the uniform outfits and they just have plain blue pants. Oh, it's probably going to come back. Yeah, they caged a bird song.

Fuck, that's tough. That's a tough one for him. Oh, I said the songbird sing. Why does the songbird sing? Yeah. Even they can't wait. We're really even the cage bird sings. Yeah, the canary in the coal mine. Yep.

I also I'm sure you guys all have these moments. It's so funny watching a documentary type of a sport, you know, you have some knowledge about and watching them explain things to you in the most basic terms. You're like, yeah, I fucking understand what a cut is. And then I thought about how frustrating it must be for F1 fans watching drive to survive like real F1 fans being like, why are they explaining the points like everyone knows this?

They were just a couple of times you're like, yes. So everyone shows up on Thursday and they play and they cut it in half. And it's like, yeah, that's golf. That was one of my other. But this is I thought this and then as I've been watching F1, I'm like, this is it's the same production company. They're doing it the same way. But with F1, you don't really I don't know what happened.

So it's it's fun to watch and see it unfold. The golf I remembered what happens in all the episodes or whatever. So the doing it the nonlinear way where it's like they're kind of going back to the same tournament. Yeah, it was kind of like throwing me off or I was like, I kind of wish they just followed it as a season. But I realized after the fact that's just how those shows are formed. No, it was yeah.

Like I said, on Monday show, like there was just it was just a highlight tape of when I lost money betting on wheels out tours. Like there was that when they were doing the we're in the studio for like half of those. Yeah, the Fitzpatrick one, the US on 18. I remember the US over was literally my right birthday and Father's Day. And I yelled at the whole household being like, hey, everyone, like let's get this fucking shit together.

This guy's got to also not sequence peak mass holes. They were not fans of Fitzpatrick. Oh, yeah, that was funny. Those weren't even there was a couple of chirps and like they were like dealing with the unruly fans. Yeah, you got to, though. If you're that was some good, good, massive stuff. If you're a true, true muscle, that is, that's the birthplace of the revolution.

Yeah, you got to defend your soil against the Brits at all cost. Yeah, I respect that. It was. Yeah. I mean, it was cool to watch like the inside of all that stuff and even like seeing the clubhouses, OK. Rory's episode was awesome. I love Rory. How can you not root for a guy like that?

Where's his family? I don't know. That was kind of weird. Was it not? Well, if you're Rory, you probably have the cloud to be like, you can put me on the show. Just my family family. All right, that's fair. But I like it was weird when after he won the FedEx at the end,

I didn't and he walked in the he walked into the clubhouse and the guy was standing there, gave him a glass of red wine. He was just sitting by himself. Yeah, like this is kind of a bummer. Tony Fina took all the spots. Yeah, Tony Fina did take family. They waited at the private jet. Tony Fina was Dick Vermille.

He if you just say the word golf to him with a camera in his face, he'll start crying so much. His family is awesome, too. Oh, in the story, Tony Fina, like the golf balls against the garage door. All that shit was so awesome. Like he's another one. It was it was Rory. It was Tony Fina and Joel Damon of guys that I saw on this being like,

I will always root for these guys. I like to gole too. I like Sahith was my favorite. He's my favorite story and episode. Really? His dad was awesome. His dad was like he was getting emotional when he went in. I was like, I think that my son's going to be really good. So I have no choice but to do everything that I can to support him.

Awesome. That was one I obviously knew he didn't win. But when he were they were setting him up in the waste management, he like fucked up on 17. Like I was like, damn, yeah, that that was the most emotional I got. Probably watching it's been like, fuck. Yeah, yeah. I have some other the. Would you guys think about the JT speed card game?

That made no sense to me. What were they playing? They literally were just like 100 bucks. If you guess a card. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's just I've been dudes. That felt a little manufactured. That felt you know what it felt like me to me is that they actually play cards

for a shitload of money and they're like, well, we don't want to show that. Yeah, we'll just pretend to do this. That and when they did the FaceTime, I'm like, what should I talk about at your wedding? And they made it seem like it was spontaneous, but the cameras are both there. Yeah, I that was the beginning of the first episode. I was like, this this might not be a good show, but it got a lot better. But that those two things was like what this is both.

These are both clearly staged for the cameras. There were a lot of conversations that would have been like just normal guys hanging out, being cool, except they were all set on the backdrop of a private plane. Yeah, there are a lot of private plane kind of probably. Oh, also Justin Thomas is we got to have him back on. His trainer is kind of fat. I don't know what that's about. Yeah, like I don't know.

I maybe it's different in golf and Jordan Spieth was working out in a polo. Yeah, so perfect. Kept his hat on. Yeah, he was working out in a polo. We could say, hey, Danny Rapp, our co-worker, obviously made a bunch of kids, they when he's any friends with Fitzpatrick, which was cool. I didn't know that. But Fitzpatrick, when he came in, he was like active as if Danny Rappport was

like a bomb. He like opened the doors like cameras around the cameras around the cameras. Yeah, that was like, I didn't know who he was talking to. And then he came in and I was like, what? Danny Rapp, what's in the show? He know, like, yeah, right. Danny Rapp, what's he going to say? I like that every time that they interviewed Rappport, he had a

different glass of some sort of drink in front of him. Yeah. But he never drank out of it. It was like his prop that he always had. The only I also like the DJ, the Paulina thing that I didn't think about that she said, which was made a lot of sense was like, yeah, I grew up with the dad who was like an athlete and was never around. So like, she probably hated that.

Yeah. So it makes sense where she's like, obviously pushing DJ to be around more. Also, the DJ episode, they showed I love like the old clips of the guys like rising up Dustin Johnson's beard makes a lot of sense. Hank, I know you know why you have the same beard. I would I saw the old clips of him as like when he was a rookie on tour. And you're still a fucking tank. Oh, what the fuck?

And then I realized, oh, yeah, that beard looks really good. Keep that. I did have one moment that took my breath away that I'd forgotten about when Tiger Woods was wrapping up at St. Andrews or St. Andrews as they call it on the show. Yeah. And he took his hat off on the 18th green. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah.

Well, it doesn't have a lot working well. It is. It's bad. It looks like a like a chiapet in the Sahara desert. Yeah. It's it's not good. I know Scott. Scott Van Pelt has been trying to convince him.

Come home, shave that thing. It is. It is way, way overdue. And you think a guy like Tiger like, come on, you can get some lawn maintenance. Like you can do something. You could. Yeah. I mean, but then again, if you're Tiger and you're still slaying, it's like, what's the point?

He does fuck. He does fuck. I mean, for sure, we should get Charlie Woods to be on the next season. Who that was. That was my other question is who? Obviously, Max. Max, for sure. Max was a little bit.

I'm actually happy that Max was missing. I want like Max. It was almost good because Max's had his glow up coming like the last, I don't know, whatever it is, 26, 25 or something. 25 months. Yeah. So but he will be great on it. Max will fucking crush it. Most of Max's appearances this time were there were so many times

when they showed Tiger and then Max was walking nearby. But I was like, there's Max. Yeah, John. Altaurist, more of it. They just showed his highlights. He's now as as as a story lies Tiger. Obviously, John Daly. John Daly.

Zaltaurist would be fun. Max is definitely going to be a good job for the most part with the roster. Also, I obviously did. That's why there's there's so many people. I realize I like Scottie Schaeffler. Yeah, no, there's nothing to not like. I thought that he was just like a boring guy because I didn't really know much about him and they didn't have like anything

cool to talk about when he was winning the Masters. They were just like the story behind this guy is he loves his wife and he's very, very, very good at golf. Went to the same high school as Clayton Kershaw and Matt Sapp. There's also that little nugget that they dropped on us. But I like him. I think I think he's actually like a very cool, normal guy. There's nothing.

Yeah, there's nothing. The only reason I don't like Scottie Schaeffler is that I've lost money when he's won tournaments. Yeah, I don't like and I've had the other guys. I don't like Scottie Schaeffler because he does stand in the way of Will Zaltaurist and Max. Yeah, yeah, he is. But he talked about a choke job on that fucking.

That was definitely a football is going on. I don't remember this tournament. The FedEx at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rory, Ron. When it was worth like 12 million dollars, right? Yeah, I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. Handicap. I also like Rory.

Rory kind of saved the PGA Tour. Him and Tiger. I didn't realize the extent of everything that was going on. But they were they were very smart about the way they approached it, because they knew that with the money that was being doled out from the live tour, the PGA Tour was going to continue to lose good players, right? Like some of the best players. And it was a good intersection for them being like, well, we we care about

the PGA and we want it to succeed. But at the same time, we have an enormous amount of leverage. So let's handle this behind the scenes. Do a player's only meeting on a tarmac somewhere and then figure out our list of demands, bring it to the PGA, and they'll have no choice. But to approve it, it's a win-win. Yes, I agree. Yeah. And Rory, like he even said it, I never thought I'd be in this position

because golf is a personal sport, like you're playing for yourself. There's no team. And for him to step up was pretty cool. Yeah, you can easily if you're Rory, you can easily just be like, who cares? I have my money. I've won my my tournaments, like, do whatever you want. I'm not getting involved in this. Yeah, Rory did a great job with that.

He also said something very relatable, which I think, at least me and you can can relate to here, which was when I was like 20 years old, I thought there's no chance that I like I'm ever going to be working when I'm 40, when you're 40, you're so old. And now that I'm like 38, 40 is not at all. No, no, no, not at all. 40 is the new 17 for podcasters. Well, we've don't podcasters.

It's we're uncharted territory. That's the older we get. We've never gone into this abyss. We care about the future generation of podcasters, too. We want we want them to get involved, but also we want to train them some wrong habits to make sure they don't take over. Yeah, I was going to say, I hope future podcasters get burnt out in like two years so that someday in like 50 years from now, they're like,

can you believe those guys podcasted for like two decades of dominance? The Rolling Stone podcast. Yeah, right. Holy shit. We should retire. How did they do it? Podcasters can't even last 24 months now. There's a senior tour for podcasters sponsored by rule sponsored by Depends. Yeah, just do it. Yeah, we would just do it at like a coffee shop every morning.

Yeah, like a local coffee shop or donut place and just read the newspaper. Sign me up. I'm definitely it. So yeah, that whole thing was great, though. I I enjoyed it. There's a couple of learning about the guys that we didn't really know much about like Mito Pereira, how he got on three cornfairy tour wins. Like, I didn't know that was a thing.

I gotta say, though, Mito Pereira saying like he just called his wife short. He was just like, yeah, I love her. She's short. She's short, but she's but she's feisty. Yeah. Also, I love with Tony Finau's win. He had one bogey the entire tournament and his son who's like, I'd make that put eight out of 10 times. Oh, yeah. It cuts to the end of the episode. Yeah. I mean, I I have no choice but to root for Tony Finau.

I feel like you're a bad human being. Remember on the Masters part three where you like turned his ankle and it back into place and our old co-worker Colby was the Tony Finau tracker. He just changed his Twitter handle. The Tony Finau tracker, like way before he became kind of popular. And like we were talking about earlier, just guys being dudes, getting massages in the locker room, talking shit about the live players. Yeah, that was good.

Yeah, the locker room. There should be more shit talking in that locker room. I feel like they all stick to themselves a little bit. The gym. I like the gym scenes, too, where they're in there a little like it's like a trailer gym. Yeah. And they're all but they're all like working out and stretching. But like they had DJ Rory in there at the same time. It's a dynamic unlike any sport because like your friends,

but you're competing, but you're not really competing against them. So it's like you can root for each other. Yeah, I forget who it was. Some guy he finished around. He was not happy with it. And then he went immediately back out on the walkie-neem into the driving range. Oh, Mito Perrero. I forget who it was, guys from Costa Rica or Chile, Chile.

He went he went right back out onto the range afterwards. And you had I understand Tony. Was it Tony? I think so. I understand. Like once you get done with the shitty round, you want to fix whatever it is right then. But you can't because you're in the middle of just playing shitty. So you have to like go to sleep. Oh, no, it's to Heath. Was it to Heath?

Yeah, you have to go to sleep and wake up the next day and just hope that whatever it was yesterday is completely fixed somehow. Right, right. I golf is just possible sport. It's crazy. It's it's not because you can play so well for 16 holes. You double bogey one. See you. I saw a stat the other day where it was like scratch. The difference between scratch golfers and golfers that hit 90 is only 1.8 birdies around.

So basically, like it's not fucking up is like the key to being good at golf, which is like you think like, oh, someone's a scratch golfer. They're just birding everything. It's like, no, they're just not bogeying anything. Yeah, that's the difference. Like these guys are just so that when they get a triple bogey, everyone's gasping. Yeah. And like, how could this happen?

Like, I can do that every fucking day. Like, it's just it's like the recovery is the recovery shots. Yeah, right. Right. The recovery shots that hit are insane. Right. Like they like a bogey is is is a really bad for them. And it just shows how fucking like for us, one bad shot ruins the hole. They just bounce back. No. Seventy three. Yeah.

So I know why I'm just saying one bad shot is like, all right, I'll just do another bad shot. Well, no, if you if I had one really bad shot, I just picked my ball up. Right. And I just got OK. Next hole. Yeah. On to the next one. I also laughed out loud every single time a golfer took their shirt off. Looking at the farmer's tan that they all have. Yes. It's it's always shocking to me how it's like the the perfect line on their

biceps, perfect line on their neck line. It looks like they're wearing a white t-shirt permanently. Yes. The whole thing was great. It was great. I'm excited for the next season. Also, did you guys see that they're doing one for football, which that will be funny when they explain the rules to football? Hard knocks. They're doing. No, it's Mahomes, Kirk Cousins and Marcus Marriota.

They followed all three of them this year. Wow. Yeah. OK. It's actually the perfect. I'm in three. You know what I mean? Like the I'm interested in all three for different reasons. Yeah. Also, did you see that? Brittany Mahomes and Joe Rogan are clashing. I did not see that.

I did. Yeah. Yeah. But was that one of your hot seat cool thrones? Yeah. All right. Sorry. So we'll get to it. All right. Let's do hot seat. Cool. We have more full swing with Joe Damon coming up. Hank, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat was LeBron.

Hmm. But you're probably pretty broken up about this. Yeah. I mean, I was excited, you know, 23 most important games of his career. That's exciting. So it's a shame he's going to have to miss a bunch. Really is. And then my cool throne was I have a couple LSU signed Bob Diaco. They're back. Yes. I met Bob Diaco's like

nephew or cousin in Barstow, Scottsdale at the bar. And he just there's very rare, you know, like we love when whenever people come up to us and say something, it's very rare that you can stop me in the tracks and be like a lot of people like, oh, yeah, I remember this or this or random thing. But to say like, I'm related to Bob Diaco, I like stopped and was like, wait, what, like, like had a whole conversation. Did he tell you about LSU?

I don't think he did. Damn. Yeah. I would not have sat on that news. Come on, Hank. My cool throne is Dame Lillard. Yeah. Drop 71 41 in the first half. I feel like the Donovan Mitchell one got a lot more buzz. Well, there. Oh, no. The Donovan Mitchell one happened during DeMar Hamlin.

I remember it's against the bulls. Oh, I got less buzz. There was one headline he remember after like you see pictures and the whole world was like, did this guy just die? There was a headline right after after Dame 71, where somebody said, like, is this the most underwhelming 70 point performance in NBA history? Jesus Christ. I respect it, though. It also 41 in the first half. You must. You must absolutely hate sports to have that beat initial take.

Yeah. That sucked. The. Yeah. I mean, the NBA went nuclear this past weekend, like last four or five days. Clay hitting 12 threes was insane. It also they also showed the stat. I'm going to look it up. But basically, anytime someone scores over 60, it's just a reminder that will Chamberlain wasn't real.

Most 60 point games. I think it was something like the most. Yeah, he has 32 times. He scored 60 plus. Kobe is number two with six. And then James five, right? James five, MJ four, James Harden four. But like 32 times.

With no three point line. No, three points. And there I mean, there's I mean, not to get not to go doc heavy, but there is a Bill Russell doc on Netflix. And it's just like he just own will Chamberlain as good as he was. Didn't we? It's crazy how dominant Bill Russell was. Didn't we'll sleep? No, did Bill Russell sleep at Wilts House when they played sometimes?

I thought I thought there was a lot of people slept at Wilts House. That's true. That's a very good point. Might have been the other way around. A lot of people, a lot of people, 20,000. Such an insane number. It's cap. I mean, duh. It's cap. It's like, but even if you have to be fucking all the time, even if it's a quarter of that all time.

Right. And it probably is a quarter of that. Yeah. Yeah. He also had an insane bench press. I think it's will. Yeah, 500 pounds. Yeah. And long jump and 40. And high jumps and like freak, like not only tall, but like freakishly, like crazy muscle contracts, like crazy stuff.

All right. Good job, Hank. Thanks. You're looking a little stressed. Yeah. Chicago Moose got me. Yeah. Oh, I was saying your beard. Yeah. Is it the is it the lottery ball? That's a lot of things. Hank did say that he was going to retire from Twitter. You won't.

I could if I mean, if I didn't have this job, I would be off social media. That's not true. 100 percent. That's not I actually believe. If I didn't, if you told me I think about it, the guy can't tweet without saying like fucking a man. Yeah, but not exactly. Think about all the whale content that he'd be missing. True. No, I would just.

You'd have like a small IRL to the whales. Oh, yeah, true. True. But yeah, you said you were going to delete your account. You're going to deactivate your account. No, I just said I'm going to retire from Twitter until I get the lottery ball. So you're going to deactivate your account. No, I didn't say that forever.

You're saying that by saying that until you get, you're never going to get it, so just deactivate your account. But hey, what about what about when you guys? What about when you guys come back? That was an all time delayed hand reaction. What if what about when you guys come back against? We said last night, too, I was like, I don't get it from a three one deficit and you beat the Sixers in the playoffs.

Are you saying that you're not going to tweet about that? I'm planning on having the lottery ball soon, so that conversation shouldn't be part of it. OK. All right, Max, by the way, great to have you back. Hope. How was vacation? Vacation was great. I love vacation. Did you shred some gnar?

Any pow pow? I went down the mountain. OK, so that's a no. Yeah, I'm not I'm not the best skier. I go pretty slow, but yeah, but it's fun. Yeah, they're worse than your golf swing. Definitely better than my golf swing. That's because I mean, if you were as bad at skiing as you're at golf,

you know, I better or worse than the Sixers versus Celtics. I don't know. They didn't have that game in the mountain. Oh, OK. So, Max, what you did miss, though, Hank said, we came to the conclusion that a Sixer Celtics series would be so great for the show. And Hank, not being the content guy that he claims to be, said he wants the best for content would be a Celtics 40 sweep.

Wrong. Yeah. No, it's I listen to the show. It's absolutely three one three one blow it. And that's probably what I don't know. No, you won't get it. No, no, yeah, we would get smoked. The Celtics just fucking own us. And it's so frustrating. Wow.

Sounds like you really got some perspective on this vacation, Max. No, I just fucking hate the Celtics so much. And I fucking hate Doc Rivers. I don't know. The Sixers, the Sixers. Well, we came from the. Doc Rivers won an NBA championship with the Celtics. I know why like he should be able to do that with the Sixers, right? That's got to be a Sixers problem.

Good point, Hank. No, he can't. That's a good point, Hank. Good for us. All right. Your hot seat. Cool. My hot seat was going to be Bryce Young and his height. Yeah, but we covered that a little bit. So I'll just I'll mention briefly the

the pre-dawn raid that occurred this morning on Dan Snyder. This happens once every three months where somebody at ESPN will write a long hit piece where surely this will be the end of Dan Snyder that drops at like seven a.m. in the morning. And then everyone talks about for morning and then we realize, oh, well, nothing's going to happen differently because Dan Snyder doesn't care about bad press. Right. So right now they're in the midst of a back and forth.

It's like a PR battle. Snyder has been saying to certain sources at the New York Post, I'm not going to sell to Bezos. The bids haven't been high enough. And now the owners respond by releasing their own hit piece on Dan, trying to pressure him out, thinking that they can shame him into selling the team. But Dan Snyder cannot be shamed into doing anything because he does not experience shame.

He experiences, I don't know what emotion it is he experiences, but he is he is the secretariat of not feeling any problem at all with his own lack of dignity. He's maybe the best person in the world at not having that. So my cool throne is going to be the NBA Eastern Conference. The Eastern Conference, because Joe Prunty is back. Oh, that's right, bitch. Our guy, Joe Prunty, the guy that looks like your accountant's accountant

is back as the assistant coach of the Hawks. And they also hired Quinn Snyder, yeah, who looks like your accountant's accountant's coke dealer. So they've got the whole shebang going on down in Atlanta and the New York Knicks are back big time, six wins in a row. The Mecca is going to be popping. Mecca is popping. I'm just going to say New York is on my cool throne.

The Mecca is going to be popping, the Knicks are good. And they've got the Rangers are now picking up Patrick Kane. That was my oh, OK. Oh, well, it's just my hot seat. OK. Well, sorry, it's it's the Mecca. Yeah, that is the Mecca. And New York in general. Plus New York, I also saw that they're selling rat meat now on the streets.

I saw a video yesterday of a street vendor with two rats on poles. And he was just grilling them over a charcoal grill and selling their meat to the public on the streets of New York. What you you you ate the trash. Oh, that that was that was like right wing propaganda. Oh, no, you got to I read. I also read an article about about street vendors selling rat meat. Oh, no, what size? You get to you got duped.

I even fall for that. You got to release a statement. You have to release your rat meat vendors. People are going to say you got duped. What is our response? Are they eating rotisserie rats in New York City? It's right wing propaganda. The I saw the exact billy would know right when I was trying to get better.

I'm trying to get better. I also read an article about it, which is I'm trying to get better and not falling for that stuff. But that was 100 percent. What did you what were you just asking, Hank? I get confused on the right and the left. I knew that was what you're asking. I fucking knew that was what you're asking.

When you hold up your left hand, it just said, which is it makes it. I knew exactly what he was wondering, which is Billy's right wing. Yeah, Billy's hardcore. Right. Got it. Do you have a statement? Well, I don't know if it's true or not. You don't fight the dupage. Just say you got duped. I don't because the liberals are cooking rats.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. This guy. Beehive Media says that it's true. Oh, that's the most big account on the planet. Damn. And then the that's like the. And then the caption of it is, is this real? So probably not. Yeah.

Dude, what are we going to? How are we going to go forward? Well, here's what you do when you get duped by something. Here's the best way to respond. Well, the fact that I thought it could be real tells you everything that you need to know. That's true. That's that's the best way to admit that you're wrong without ever admitting that you're wrong.

That's a very good point. That's a very good point. All right, my hot. You really think that could be real? Yeah, he did. Yeah, I did. I did. He definitely did. New York's got a real rat problem, Hank. So does Boston. I saw the end of the departed. All right, my hot seat.

We talked about it on Monday, but all our sports teams suck. PFT and I and now Patrick Kane has been traded to the Rangers for nothing, pretty much. It was like a second rounder. And then there's another second rounder that could become a first rounder if the Rangers go to the conference.

Finals in twenty twenty three. It's just it's sad. I'm happy I get to watch Patrick Kane play play off hockey. But the fact that the Blackhawks like bungled the second half of his career just sucks. Yeah, thank you, Canada, for having your dollar not inflate correctly. Fucking a man.

I feel you. The the Celtics just went from first in the place. They're not in first place in the East anymore. So what place is in second? Oh, I think they're tied for fucks of one 14 in a row. Yeah, I feel your pain with that. You're not worried about the box? Should be. No, that's a no.

He said a no. I want to say I'm focused on the Sixers. Well, yeah, he of course, he beat the fuck out of him. I mean, you lost to the Knicks, Hank. I know without Jalen Brown, the Mecca. Yeah, Patrick Kane trade is a big time bummer. And everyone, everyone wants to watch the highlights, though. What? Like when a player

Oh, of his time. Yes, yes, great time. You get it. It's like it's the best man I've ever. Yeah, the good memory lane. He's the best that you don't otherwise get. I mean, Rangers fans knew it. There was a Rangers fan wearing a Kane 88 jersey in MSG the other night. So they knew it. Then my cool throne is us and our take on Victor Wembanyana.

So Charles Barkley has come out and said he doesn't know if he'll be good because he's got to see him play the physical nature of NBA basketball. This means he's going to be out of this world good because Charles Barkley, who I love, is kind of stuck in the past. Sometimes of this takes. He famously, obviously said before the 2015 playoffs, he doesn't trust a jump shooting team to win a playoff series

talking about the Golden State Warriors that went on to win four titles shooting jumpers. So I think that if we're worried about Victor Wembanyana playing the physical style, banging in the post, I think we're good. Do you remember this old hit from Charles Barkley when Yao Ming came to the NBA? Yeah, one game in. Charles Barkley goes, this guy stinks. If this guy ever scores 19 or more points in a game,

I will kiss Kenny Smith's ass. Yeah. And guess what happened? I think the next game he had like 24 points. Kenny Smith brought out a donkey. Yep. That was Kenny Smith's ass. And then Charles Barkley went up and he kissed the donkey's ass. And then Kenny was like, what are you doing? Charles, you don't have to kiss the ass of my ass.

Yeah, you just had to kiss the ass. Wait, we just got to eat. We got to buy donkeys and just eat them. Yeah, I have to buy one donkey. You buy one donkey and then we kill them and we eat them. And we all just wins it. Yeah. Problem solved. Yeah, people will be upset about the donkeys being killed,

but donkeys can't even procreate. That's mules. Oh, that's mules. What can donkeys can? Donkeys are libs. Fuck. I always get right and left confused. Yeah.

I write it down on my my hand, my palm before I get up every morning. Yeah. Left hands of snowflake, right hands, cartoon frog. Billy, my hot seats. Joe Rogan. Yeah. First hot seat. So Joe Rogan was doing a Protect Our Parks podcast with Shane Gillis. Mark Norman and Ari Schaffer. Sure. Close, close enough.

But yeah, so they're just shooting the shit. They're like fucked up. And then Shane Gillis was like, I'm starting to like Jackson Mahomes starts talking about Jackson Mahomes says he actually respects him for like going hard and is totally flipped on him. Not that he had opinion on before. Anyway, Brittany Mahomes gets brought up about how she like spray champagne in the box and like celebrates a lot.

Anyway, long story short, Joe Rogan made a comment being like, wow, it's crazy because they take that crazy energy and just bring it right back at you after when you get divorced. Anyway, Brittany took. That's a weird comment. It is. I mean, they're married still, right? Yeah. Yeah. But just assuming you're going to get divorced and then Brittany Mahomes

tweeted something about grown men talking about someone. Yeah, no, I I'm not. Listen, I'm not offended. It's more like, oh, like, yeah, I guess like if you're Brittany Mahomes, you could be a little I'm not upset. Brittany Mahomes could be upset. Yeah. Yeah. Something about grown men talking shit about someone's wife is real weird.

And then she tweeted again, actually grown ass men hating on women in general is pathetic. I disagree. Like you should and Gillis was like pro saying he likes her. Yeah. And then Joe Rogan made a joke. Like I wasn't talking about Brittany Mahomes. He wasn't like right now is going to get. Yeah. A podcast in the homes.

He was just like, you know, passionate women in general are passionate when you get a divorce, too. Like, which is it wasn't he wasn't talking about the Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. A podcast transcribed as the worst form of media ever because you can't tell what anyone is saying, inflection to any of that. And also, if Brittany Mahomes hadn't said anything, it probably would have. It sounds like it was a throwaway, right? Yeah. So but it is a feud now.

Well, we're talking about it because of the reaction. Right. They may have been on mushrooms. That's a weird feud. I never thought. Rogan, Rogan, for any of the homes. I mean, I'm in. I'm in on it. I saw I'm actually taking Brittany's side on this. Yeah. I free Brittany, free Brittany. I yeah, it's just I didn't have that on my bingo card.

Joe Rogan, I mean, I feel like Brittany Mahomes, she's she's definitely in the burner gang. She has had she's been offline for a while. You have to if you're she has been very active in the burner community. I'm certain about it. And I'm OK with that. Yeah. I like having a ride or die chick. I mean, look at Patrick Reed's wife.

Remember her use golf facts? It is. She's the best. Yeah. It is funny, though. If you transcribed every Joe Rogan podcast, you could like people would find basically every minute something to be offended by, which is stupid. But that is how it how it works, right? Every time he's trending, it's like. And these ones he does with Gillis and then they are just getting fucked up.

I know, they're very so they're very. Yeah, that's actually even more so, though, when it's not even just like it's a podcast, it's like we're just ship based shooting the shit. Yeah, we were on drugs at the time. I'm sorry. They're doing whippets. Oh, really? I mean, that rules. It's pretty cool. Responsive, very loose buttholes. Responsibly. All right. You're cool, drone.

Is that whippets? No, that's whippets. Oh, the balloons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Noss. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. My other cool throne is sci-fi headlines. There's Canadian super pigs that are trying to come over the U.S. border. Fuck them. Like half like feral hog types. No. So not only my watch will be .com, too.

You know what they call it? No, no, that's real. Canadian bacon. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But like apparently they're coming over the border and like what are they doing? Sounds like a right wing conspiracy. They're like destroying agriculture and they're just like apparently gigantic super feral hog pigs. We got we got to build a wall. No, we got to we got to do the I watched a video online with Black Hog down.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, you can get in a helicopter and just fucking lighting up. Sidney Wells did it. Yes. Sidney went up there. A.R. 15. Build a fucking wall. Oh, no, this is the Guardian. That's that's lefty, right? No, you don't. You don't know how. All right, Jake. My hot seat is Tom Brady.

Tom Brady reportedly is starting to pursue a career in standup comedy, but he's on the hot seat because that from Bumblebee. No, Barstle did a blog on it. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, are you saying we're not was it Thornton? Credible general. All right, if it's Thornton, it's legit. Yeah. But the reason he's on the hot seat is because Tom, if you're watching this, you should be spending that time with me practicing.

Yes. In the booth. Let's go this summer on Wide Open. Let's make it happen. Get your reps up, Jake. Yes. Yes. Get ready for 2024. So I'm I'm when I saw this report and it was from Radar Online. So you can trust you can take that to the bank. They said that his standup routine needs a little bit of work, but he's committed to it.

And apparently his inner circle is trying to get him off. Yeah, because he's owed like 20 million dollars guaranteed from Fox. So I would understand that. At first, I was like, there's no fucking chance Tom Brady is funny. It can't be possible. It can't be. He has everything else going for him. And then I thought about it and I was like, you know what's going to have Tom Brady is going to go out there and he's going to kill it.

He's going to be better than Chappelle. Yeah, he's going to practice for the booth with me. He should absolutely. Yeah. But yeah, he is. He basically just picked the one profession that everyone would be like, you're going to suck just so he can feel that itch again. It's like it's like beat Bobby Flay, except he's just taking everybody's job and he's better than everyone at everything.

Tom Brady being like an insane standup comedian would just be wild. Let let ugly people have one thing, Tom. Come on. I think you'd be a really, really good podcast and should never try it. Oh, I don't know if he's because he doesn't need to prove that he would definitely be good enough. No, he's not built like us. No, that's why that's how he ends up podcasting.

Why would you want him to podcast? He does podcast, bro. Jim Gray. Wait, you're talking him into not podcasting because he only goes then does what the haters don't want him to do. Are you trying to get him to start a podcast or do our competition? Yeah, you just you just you poke the bear. You just made him compete against.

No, no, I was like soothing the bear being like you'd be great podcasting. You have to hire Tim Rete and what's what's another one? There was a Gino something. Who's the Brady six? Tim Rete was definitely one of them. What Brady six? The six guys taken before. Oh, take him for him.

Yeah, was Chad Pennington taken before? Maybe. Yeah. You way to go, dude. No, I think he'd be a really good podcaster. No need to try it. Please don't give him any ideas. Tom Brady, if you're listening to some of my voice right now, Tom Brady could take your job and be better.

Giovanni Carmasi, Giovanni Carmasi, Mark Boulder, T Martin, Chris Redmond, Spurgeon, Win, Chad Pennington. Oh, no, Tim Rete. I was wrong. I've had solid careers. Yeah, Spurgeon, Win. So, yeah, that's the hot seat, Tom. I will do it for you of charge. OK.

My cool throne is a chugging soda. Yes, there is this young Florida Panthers fan and Jumbotron chugged the whole bottle of soda like a beast. Yeah, respect. Yeah, also, cool throne, Ruffin Rowdy, tune in Friday night by rnr.com, but Kat will be there in West Virginia. Ruffin Rowdy, 20, Big Dick Booty Daddy's back.

Never thought we'd see him again. Yeah, fuck that guy. Yeah, no, I agree. I hope he gets fucked out. I went to his house and interviewed him before the last fight. Really? Oh, yeah, it's crazy. How many guns does he have?

He's got a lot. He's got a lot. He's doing, though. He's fighting. If he doesn't get a knockout, he gets no money. No money. If he gets if he doesn't get a knockout, if he knocks him out, he gets seven grand, I think. So what's he fighting?

The Irish day, Portnoy. OK, so Dave Portnoy. All right, got it. And he's not Irish. He just has red hair. OK, got it. How's that pot? Is he Scottish?

No, I mean, he he might be Irish like two generations ago, but he's not from Ireland. OK, got it. He's Irish. Got it, got it. He's like everyone on St. Patrick's. Got it. OK, his liver is.

Yeah, let's get to Joel Damon. Awesome interview. It's more full swing talk. Looks like the boys need to take a piss break. What we have, it's a mini-firefest. They've stocked up on instead of normal water bottles. They're now one liter water bottles. I love these.

And I've just. Everyone's been pissing. We've been pissing a lot. I'm pissing clear right now. Never been this hydrated. Love it. Hank, you have to go, too? Yeah, I'm like three waters deep.

Oh, shit. All right, that's fine. Me, Big Cat, and Max, will get. Yeah, I'm actually winning Chad Pennington over here. We'll finish this off. I can jug it. Yeah, jug it. Yeah, no, no, Hank, go.

No, jug it. I just, you just asked if you could jug it. And I said, jug it. Go to the bathroom, Hank. No, no, no, no, no, he needs to go in the jug. Look, he got so low. You won't be able to do it. No, you won't.

He's going to be like Ed Sheeran all over again. Dude, I'm a fucking road dog. Get out of here. You think I can't piss in a jug? Hey, Max, put the camera on, Hank. OK, good. Yeah, look at the gerry angle. Are you going to put your dick on the show?

You won't be able to do it. What are you talking about? I don't think you're going to be able to do it. Hank, look at me. Look at me. What's up? Make eye contact. No, you can't do it.

Billy's going to walk it. Like, Jake's going to report me to HR if he sees my dick. Probably. Come on, let's go. Shut up. We'll wait to do the ad. We'll see you do it. I need to get an angle.

Oh, what's up, Polar? Come on, Hank. Shut the fuck up. Just do the ad. I don't think you can do it. No, we're not doing the ad, so you're done. All right, we'll get it. This ad read is going to be presented to you by Hank's hot piss.

I just need to make sure it's not. You can't do it. You've been talking about it for three minutes. Shut up. It's not an issue. Three minutes of talking. Let's talk more pee. I'm sorry to apologize, my mom.

I know she's going to get mad at me for this. For what, peeing in a jug? Can you mic it up? Look how easy it is, Hank. That was fucking nothing. That's fucking easiest thing in the world. I just pissed. Well, you were preparing to piss.

I pissed in that jug. I'm going. Oh, you are? Yeah. What are you thinking about? Oh, here comes Jake. And Jake. Hey, Jake, what's Hank doing?

Oh. Is he pissing? Yeah. I just pissed in this one. Did you guys have done it before, right? Yeah, yeah, we just did it. We did it during the. Can you throw that out for me?

The Dungeon Dragons episode. Bigger than, like, Defy. They think I heard Hank talking about it. They doubled the water bottle size in this office. So it just forced you to drink more, which is great. Hank, are you peeing? Yeah. Are you?

It's really taking a while. Yeah, guess how much? In a liter bottle. You'll probably get halfway. I'm not good at metric system. All right, he's done. And oh, nice. Whatever that is.

That's clear. Big guy, you got to drink more water. Yeah, probably. Compared to your. I mean, I've been crushing waters. Yeah. I almost said something that I almost said something really bad.

Thankfully, you didn't. I was going to say that if Hank gets a lottery ball, I'll take a sip of this. But I didn't say it, but I didn't say it, but I didn't say it. We don't have champagne. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. You did say he's never going to get it.

Yeah, no, I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. If you're sure he's never going to get it. If you get it, I'll take a sip of this. All right, fine. Deal. All right, do you have this episode?

Yeah, just for this episode. All right. Yeah. All right. So if I get the lottery ball, you have to take a sip of your own piss. And if you get it, I'll take a sip of my own piss. And I have a pack.

Yeah. Can you put a top on it? You fucking psycho? That's crazy. It's also hanging halfway off the edge. There's dip in his too. That would make it so much worse. Wait a minute, I'm drinking my own urine.

I don't dip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you just piss in there? Yeah, I pissed in this one, too. I have the worst fire fest for Thursday. OK. We're not going to be on the show. Say it now.

I got bit by a bunch of fleas. What the fuck, dude? How are you doing that? My dog came back from work. He was being kept. Wait, your dog was at work? No, I was away at the PLL. I got my dog back.

And then I was sitting on the couch first night, thank God. And I started feeling, oh shit, something just bit me. And then I realized he had fleas. So it's just my couch. I'm clean. Don't worry. But they itch so goddamn bad. I've been trying to keep it together

because the Benadryl just wore off. Yeah, so you're sitting on that couch infested with fleas. Next to Jake. You're going to get Jake sick with fleas. No, no, no, no. We had our own hotel rooms. No, no, right now. All right.

No, no, no, you can't carry them. It's not like that. I bet you could figure out a way to contract fleas. How'd your dog get them? Because he was at work. No, but I caught it the first. He works at the flea factory. I caught him for the first time.

No, I caught it early, thank God, because the only place he was was my couch. So that's like ground zero. So we disinfected. I did the whole anti-stuff. But I'm itching so badly right now. It is terrible. So is this better or worse than your chigar infestations

in the past few years? This is actually, it's once a year I get hit with something. I'm currently, yeah, it's wild. You remember when you got bit by chigars and then you couldn't eat meat for the rest of your life? No, I'm out of the window. Actually, so I beat it. I beat Alpha Gal.

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Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. And now here's Joel Damon. OK, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is a two-time top 10 finisher and majors. He is top 80 in the world in golfing. Is that right still? What are you at right now? Probably closer to 90.

Top 100 in the world in golfing. He's also taken the world by storm with his episode in full swing, the Netflix documentary out now. It is Joel Damon. Joel Damon, thank you so much for joining us. I think I speak for everyone when I say you stole the hearts of people who watch Netflix documentaries because they have nothing else to watch in late February.

Fair. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I'm glad it turned out pretty good overall, I'd say. We haven't had a whole lot of negative feedback, which is always great. But we kind of just put ourselves out there. When you have a camera and a bike on you all the time,

and you guys know about that, but it's easy to slip up and say something stupid. And I think that it's a good editing for us. Wait, so what is the negative feedback? You've definitely had one where you're like, fuck this guy. He has it so wrong. I mean, a lot of it is. I mean, they did lean into my self-deprecation

or my, apparently, I don't believe in myself at all, according to the show. But it was just a lot of people reaching out wanting to help me. Like, I have a problem or an issue, or I've had all these sports psychologists reaching out. And I'm like, all right, that's a bit of a stretch. But it's nothing real negative.

There were some people who didn't like my drinking move at round. That was a big problem for some people. I didn't have a problem with that. That was one of my favorite parts of the entire documentary. When you were trying to qualify for the US Open, and you do the longest day in golf, our good friend Danny Wood had almost qualified,

I think, at that same tournament. So after you were done with one round, you weren't playing very well. You slammed a couple claws back, had a few white claws, and then you went out there and you played better, which I think is very relatable, because most normal people, they're like, I'm better when I'm buzzed. Would you say that's fair at your level, too?

Yeah, there's a very thin line there for when you're one of the top players. There's obviously you can cross that line very quickly, and it gets ugly out there. But yeah, I wasn't playing that great. I tend to have a couple claws at home with my buddies. When I'm out playing with them, that's just kind of, we listen to music, we drink some beers, we play fast.

So this one was kind of no different. I had to play well in the afternoon. It just seemed like the right thing to do at the right time, and glad it worked out for me. Yeah, so you mentioned the self-deprecation, people reaching out. That is funny that people are like, hey, I'm here for you, random stranger on the internet,

who watched your documentaries. But so I think deep down, what I loved about the episode is you're a very relatable guy in the fact that I think you know you're very good at golf. You wouldn't be on the PGA tour. Right, so it's like almost people forgot the very basic thing of obviously he knows he's very good at golf. There's just a difference between maybe you and the guys

who are so insanely singularly focused that it just consumes everything. You have maybe a little bit more of a balanced life, is that fair to say? I think it's very fair to say. Yeah, those guys at the top, they're dedicate their whole lives to being the best at what they do, from their nutrition to working out

to the people they surround themselves with. I mean, I take my job as a professional golfer very seriously. I do practice. I do work hard. I do have a trainer. I do have a swing coach. I surround myself with great people, but I also like to have fun.

And golf does not consume who I am. I have an awesome wife. But my cat and I are best friends. We hang out all the time. We go have some beers after rounds sometimes. Whatever that is, I like to go on vacations. I like to just hang out. So when I'm playing golf, I'm very serious.

I'm working hard, but I can shut it off just as easy as I can turn it on. Yeah, that's a great answer, because yeah, I didn't watch it being like this guy. It's so sad how much he puts himself down. It's just like, hey, it's actually very similar to the Tony Fino episode. It doesn't just because golf isn't everything to you.

It doesn't mean you don't care about it and want to do well when you go out and play tournaments. Right, exactly. And I think that people think, I mean, a lot of people on the outside don't really understand that, I mean, you can get burned out very quickly, just endlessly hitting balls and practicing all the time in the travel. There's some of those episodes.

Guys are flying in planes that are personalized to them. And I'm flying private with my friends on American Airlines often. So it's just a little like, you know, you get burned out from all the practice from the travel. Being away from your family, that all can take a toll. So I try to enjoy both sides of it. Yeah, so what's the difference between being

the like a 50 to 100 ranked golfer in the world and then being in the top 10 in terms of what you can do on the course? Like we know, obviously, like there's psychos, and all they care about is golf, and they wake up thinking about golf, and they go to sleep thinking about golf. But like physically, from a shot making standpoint, where is that separation where you become like the best

of the best? Yeah, I think the big separation is in the ball striking. And if you just look at the FedEx couple or the money list every year, it's going to be typically the guys who hit it far. So you look at, I think, one in two, three in the world are Scotty Schaeffler and Rom and Rory right now. Like they just bomb it.

And they hit it very straight. And then they hit their errands really well. And then they make some putts. But like the one thing is length and accuracy of T. And then you're approach playing in the green. So if you can give yourself the most birdie chances after hitting a great drive. And then after that, if you, the guys who win

are the best putters of the best ball strikers that week. A lot of people think, oh, I want to make all the putts. Well, you have to get to the green first to be able to make the putts. So these guys are, yeah. And so I think that's just the biggest separator, where I'm not necessarily a bomber. I'm pretty average off the tee.

I hit it very straight. I'm one of the most accurate guy. But I'm also 50 yards behind some of these guys. And that's just a huge, huge difference. So how long exactly are you? Would you say? I mean, like four or five inches? OK, yeah.

Yeah, that's OK. You are very average, yeah. No, bro, yeah. I could be a professional golfer with the same dick size. Exactly. I think I average like 295 off the tee. Like if we're in like a dome situation, it like flies like 285 and goes to 300 yards.

Like that's kind of a pinning situation, yeah. That's, I mean, it's crazy too, just saying that. Being like, yeah, these guys at the top are 50 yards farther. And you're like, yeah, you're hitting 300. And so it just shows how insane professional golf is, how good you guys are. It's nuts to watch. And the athletes are just getting bigger and stronger.

And technology is better and the instruction is better. And all that stuff is like optimizing how to hit the golf ball now. And it's just like, so you have these bigger, stronger, better athletes working out more with better technology. And all of a sudden, the ball is going to go forever. It would be pretty funny if you had a steroid arc, where it's like Joel Damon shows up to like the Phoenix

Open just completely shredded. And then you get busted for steroids. But then you're like, hey, all you people hit me up about full swing. You said I should take it more seriously. There's nothing more serious than taking steroids. Like there's an arc there. I'm just saying.

There is, that's fair. There's, that would be an interesting one. I don't know how, you know, golf is still mental as well, but I'd be curious how that all works. Do you get road rage on the golf course? That would be, that would be the next level out there. Do you get, do you get piss tested after you do really good in tournament?

So it's not quite like you're seeing, like in the other sports, you know, it was like, I think DK Metcalf had amazing catch and like one, like the celebrity in VP, when we get drug testing next year, these guys hit a bunch of home runs or whatever it is. So not quite like that. We do have scheduled, I don't know if the house schedule,

they're quote unquote random, but you get four or five, a piss test a year and you're supposed to get one blood now because we're an Olympic sport. So it's kind of here, there free. I mean, if you're not doing too stupid, it's pretty hard to fail. It would be, it would be funny.

You should take steroids. No, we're not trying to ruin your career, Joel. We're rooting for you, but you should do steroids. Joel, I want you to listen to me. You're good at golf, man. Yeah. I want you to know that you're good. Yeah, exactly.

Like, all right. Yeah, you and you and like, all right. Let's just play it out. You do steroids, you get busted, you get banned from the tour. We get to talk about it and make a lot of funny jokes. The podcast gets better. So are you a team player?

Well, with that being said, I mean, if I do get busted, can I, do you think Dave would hire me? Yeah, four play guys are just like, I could just be some guy around the office, whatever that is. But if I, if I go, if I take your advice, get busted for steroids, then I, you're going to need to give me a job somewhere along the way.

Well, it's actually, I'm thinking about this now. It's crazy that, and maybe this happens in golf circles, like a super, super rich dude, just hires a former PGA golfer who got, you know, banned from steroids, you to basically be his partner in like all club tournaments and stuff. I, that would be. I'm into that.

That sounds great. I think you're talking. You basically just travel around, you play the best member guest, you just drink and eat and you kind of hustle people out of money. Yeah. Yeah.

Are you at the point where you'll go to golf court, like have you, have you shown up at like a munitrack and tried to play undercover and just stand back the hell out of anybody? It was easier a couple of years ago. My cat and I used to do some money games. You know, we would reach out on Twitter and be like, okay, I missed the cut this week in Boston

or wherever we were at and we'd go out and play. But it's a little harder now to do it, but there's been a couple of times you show up and people don't know who you are and just kind of get a game, which is fun. But after a couple of holes, they kind of figured it out. So I haven't figured out the full sandbagging side of things yet, but I think it would be a ton of fun

to be an undercover, I think it'd be fun if like Max Holman and I went out to like his muni and just like had like ruffled old like happy Gilmore and clothes and like these crappy clubs and showed up to the first tee and balled out on people. That'd be a ton of fun. Do you think that you guys could do that and hustle people effectively

if like the way that you would sandbag them would be, you have, you try to hit your tee shot in the bunker on every hole, on all 18 holes. Do you still think that you would like mop the floor with your really good like local club player? Oh, that's an interesting one. It probably depends on the harder the golf course it is, the bigger advantage 200 players have.

So if you go play like your local easy country club or whatever muni down the road, the separation won't be as much as if we were gonna play like a US open setup. Like that's when you get a big separation where like a club champion would still probably shoot 90 at a US open setup where tour players, we can keep it under 75 most of the time.

So I think that would be the biggest advantage or the biggest difference in the game. Yeah, you were talking in the documentary about how Max, or maybe it was Max that was saying it, how when he gets drunk, he just tells you repeatedly that you're good at golf. Does that get annoying? Well, we both have kids now.

So our drinking time has been less lately. And he's also, I think he's inside the top 10 in the world now. So. Yeah, but he's a choke artist. We both know it. Oh, that's such a scratch. That's tough to hear. Did you see him with the Genesis?

Did you see him with the Genesis? Can you call that a choke? Oh yeah, we called it a choke. We dubbed it. We claimed it was a choke. What about the other six times he's, she's been close to leading these, close them all out. I think his, I think his record's pretty good.

Lucky, lucky, mostly luck. I actually think he's going to win the Masters this year. I also do think he's going to win the Masters. We have a complicated relationship with Max, where I, I'm very negative to him because everyone on the internet sucks his dick constantly. So you have to have like one guy who's like, you still suck, bro.

And it might as well be you. It might as well be me. You're the guy, you're the guy that he just posts his tweets. Like he pins them or whatever. And he puts them on like his mirror in the morning and he wakes up. Maybe that's just you. Yeah.

I like that. I think, I think he's going to win the US Open. I don't know much about the Masters. I haven't been there, but I think the US Open is going to, it's in LA, you know, it's where he's from. He's got all those positive vibes and all those cool things he says now in his mantra. So I think LA could be the spot for him.

Yeah. I like that. So speaking of Max, let's play a game called I asked Max some stories about you. So this is what he gave me. This is so bad. Max said, ask him how many white claws he drank when he shot 58 in his home course.

Oh, yeah, it was, I believe we got to 12 on the 18th hole. So it wasn't, it wasn't like the most ever, but it was a pretty good clip to shoot 14 on the bar. As, as your swing coach, I highly recommend that you get wasted at all tournaments. Yeah, there has been discussion, but I don't think that there is, there, there's a spot there. And I found this spot that day, but it's,

if you poke the barrage, you are up to it, whether it's, it doesn't work out in the end. It's very true. Somebody should actually study that because we've all had the thought, maybe when you're playing beer pong, or you're doing some sort of like right eyehand coordination event where you reach that golden space where it's like, if I were to guess, it's probably right around a point

06 to a point 07. If you were to take a breathalyzer, science should really catch up to this because I, I do think that there's something to the fact that if you're buzzed, but not drunk, you can be better at certain scopes. There is something with the freedom. It just kind of frees you up.

It clears your headspace. And I think like, you know, a lot of people play darts or beer pong or pool. It's like, oh, I got to be a little buzzed to play this better. Like we all know that feeling. So I think if you can somehow get there sober all the time, that'd be great, but that's just not realistic in the fun games we play.

So yeah, it's easier after three or four beers to just find your zone and get after it. Okay. So we're talking about buzz, but you were hammered when you shot a 50. Well, white claws over five, four or five hours. So, you know, that's only, I mean, after I hold the putt to shoot 58, then I got hammered. Yes, that was a, that was a fun next couple of hours.

That's an insane score. I mean, were you just every single hole, you're just like, I keep doing it. What's going on now? Cause you, it sounds like you're having fun when you're doing it. Yeah. We actually had Kyle Schwerber and Ian Hapout, that day and then a couple of other buddies.

So we had a, we had a good group. We had a six some it was in, it was during the pandemic, 2020. So the Cubbies had their time off, but I was only 200 through seven. So I shot 12 under my last 11 holes. So it was kind of a blackout on the golf course side of things. You know, I clearly wasn't blacked out from the white gloss,

but it was a, you know, it was, it was a moment that I probably will never return to on a golf course, but I'm glad it happened. That's incredible. All right. Here's the other one. Questions that max asked or asked me to ask you. The time that you went out on a Friday night because you thought you missed the cut,

but then you found out that you actually did make the cut. Yeah. That was back on the corn fairy tour back in 15 or 16. Might have been summer of 15. We're in Springfield, Missouri. That is maybe the armpit of America. That is a tough area there. Great tournament. Nice. So it's just a tough area.

So it's like a hundred million degrees. It's hot and humid. It's in July. And yeah, I thought I missed the cut. So we had some, some beverages. And then it turns out I made the cut. So it was one of the first off Saturday morning. I was not feeling well that morning. There's possibly a video I might send you guys

after this, if it's kept under wraps, it's pretty great. But I feel myself walking on the first tee and not feeling so great. I ended up making 10 birdies that day, shot nine under and was in fifth place after that day. So there's been a couple of these things. I really don't do it that much anymore. Like almost never, which is good.

But yeah, there was times when I, in my younger days, when I could handle a hangover better than I can handle one you, you, you, I think, um, I think you've taken, like between full swing and just talking to you here, you have the title as like guy everyone should want to golf with. Because like what I think about when like, oh, I want to go golf with like John Rom or like, you know, Jordan Spieth. No, not really. They're probably psychos.

You would probably be a good time, you know what I mean? Like it would, you probably don't, especially when you're not playing competitively, take it that seriously. Yeah. I think golf is, I actually have the most fun being good. If you're new to lead on Sunday in tournament, that's the most fun. But if not, I would, I love to play golf with my buddies back home. Like it's one of my favorite things to do. It's like a lot of, you know, they're, they're working, you know,

whatever 40, 50 or weeks. So when they get off, like they're having the most fun. They're all of a sudden they're at their Disney land and I got to join them in their best part of their week and we're going to drink and hang out and have it blast and kind of talk shit to each other and, you know, gamble a little bit. So I, I love that. I'm at a fun place called Mesa country club. The four play guys actually came out and did a scramble out there,

but we, it's just a great group of guys. You just get together and you have a blast. And so if I hit the lottery, I don't know if I played PGA to her golf anymore, but I would still play golf all the time with my buddies. That's awesome. Is that, is there a caddy that just walked by? Yeah, that is my caddy. Gino, does Gino want to come, come over and say hi real quick? Gino, you want to come say hi to these guys? Do they want me to come to say hi?

I think they think your bald head is beautiful. And they want me to come over here. Said it needs his bald head needs shaved. I don't know how this audio work, but we're, we're a close couple here anyway, so we can do it. Hey Gino. Hey Gino, what's up? How's it going? So he was, he was just telling us how you won't let him get drunk anymore while he plays golf and how he secretly resents you for that. Yeah, I know. Well, sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

And I would say it probably doesn't work out more than it does. Thank you. Sorry. Technical difficulties. That wasn't a technical difficulty. That was just stupid. You just never put on headphones. Well, it's a left ear.

I'm going to give you the other one. That's because you're in the wrong one. There we go. He needs a, he needs a caddy. Yeah. Why don't you lend him a drink? I enjoy money and the alcoholic beverages seem to take that out of my pocket sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Would you guys consider your relationship to be a bromance?

I just think we're just basically married at this point. I don't know what you would call that, but we spend as much time together as we do with our wives. So, and we kind of fight like married couples and we complete each other's sentences and all that jazz. So that is true. We'll get into arguments on the golf course without ever actually speaking and he'll pull a seven iron and hit it over the green. And I was like, I had a whole argument with you about why you should have hit eight, but

you won the argument and never, no words were ever actually spoken. Yeah. And so there's a, there's a great moment in the full swing episode when you call him a boner at the U.S. Open. Love that. Yeah. I was hoping that one wouldn't make the, I was hoping that wouldn't make the cut, but here we go.

So has there ever like a point, because you guys have a very unique caddy player relationship where I would imagine Tiger's Caddy's not being like, Hey, you fucking boner, he probably not, but has there ever been a moment where you thought, you know, you might have gone too far or Joel, you were like, Hey dude, you're my caddy, like, chill out for a second. I try to be conscientious of the fact that he is my boss, he's my best friend, but also I respect him and I try not to take it to that next level. And I know I couldn't say that with other players. If I was just randomly caddying for somebody else, I would never do that.

So I kind of know my boundaries and what I can and cannot say or should not say to Joel's. So I'm always mindful of it. I try to stay on the good side of the line there. Yeah. And Joel, so has he ever, what's the closest like where you're like, you know what, fuck this guy? Well, I think I say that all the time, just in it's strictly like a brother thing. I'm like, no, it's a terrible club.

That was a bad read. That was like, so he lets me vent to him and doesn't take it personal, which is great. There's been times where he's like, dude, you are miserable to be around right now. Like, like, have more fun, shape up or this, this, this sucks. You suck at golf right now and you have a terrible attitude. So I don't want to be around this. So he kind of kicks me in the butt that way to kind of get me turned around. But if you've had a few dust ups out there, 99% of my fault and just saying stupid things

to him because I was mad, but he's really good about keeping it like pretty business on the golf course. We have fun, but it's still, you know, I am the one who cuts his check. So I, I get to be the boss, which is great. At the waste management a couple of years ago when you took your shirt off after, after playing the 16th there, who's, did you know that Joel was going to do that? And after the fact, did you try to, you should try to take the heat for me. Like I told him to do that.

I'm sorry. Like as a cat, you could, you could get away with like, you know, I'm, I'm the bad guy here. Don't attack Joel. You're right. I should have. Now that you say that, I've never even thought of it until right this moment. I definitely should have took the heat up for that one.

No, I did not know the shirt was coming off the way, the way it played out with Harry Higgs and the fact that he had a 10 footer for par there or whatever and everyone chanting take it off. Take it off. And I think you can hear me say in the video, I was like, if he makes this pot, I feel like it's coming off and you know, sure enough, that shirt comes up and I looked up and the, they started throwing beer cans and one was coming right at me and I didn't know if they're full or empty or what, but I felt like I was in danger.

So I actually ran through the tunnel to 17 T as soon as the beer can started flying and I stopped and I looked back and I could see Joel, you know, helicopter in the shirt and I was like, oh my gosh, that was, that was something else, but I definitely should have taken the heat for that one. Joel, if you make, if you make a hole in one at the 16th hole at the next waste management, you got to go full frontal, right? Yeah. Just drop your dick.

Just drop trowel. You guys should do meat spin. You guys should do meat spin together. You would go in and take the home page of the buddy's computer to meat spin. Exactly. You count how many spins you got, baby, right around. Wow. That's classic.

That's, yeah. I don't, I don't know if mine's big enough to meat spin, but I might have to actually take my shirt off. All right. So wait. Last question for Gino. Do you ever talk shit to other caddies? Cause I would do that if I was a caddy.

Maybe, maybe not as much as I should. And it's, uh, you know, a lot of other player caddies don't have as much fun as we do. Um, they are working. So yeah, they're taking, taking their job serious and all. Um, but there might be some, uh, some poking, but it's all like just little playful stuff. Nothing too aggressive. Uh, it will be fun. If we really get after each other.

Yeah. Like if you win it, if I, if I was a caddy and my player wins, I'd be like, uh, bump up my rate because you should have seen what I did. Yeah. You should have seen what I did to the fucking, the, the co-leaders caddy on the 15th. Like I, I just mentally destroyed him. He hasn't had a good whole day. You got to start doing that.

That's right. You got to start doing that. Yeah. That's a, that's a good call. I feel like that's a really quick way to be hated. Yeah. No, that's fine. Yeah.

Who cares? It doesn't matter if you're, if you're hated, who cares? It's just, you can't let your way. Well, yeah. As long as you're winning, right? Who cares? Like you can't be a 200th on the FedEx. Cause I'm talking shit to everyone.

And then try to get a job. It'd be very funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. Well, Gino, thank you. By the way, we might've just started to put a little birdie in Joel's ear that he

should start taking steroids. You guys can deal with that later. Um, but thank you for, for hopping on for a second. No, you guys are awesome. Thanks so much. All right. So Joel, I was like, I had questions being like, how does this relationship work with Gino?

Because it is so unique, but like him just hopping on. I, I get it. I'm just like, yeah, he's, he's actually the perfect guy where you can tell he has fun, but he also knows how to switch it and be serious if he needs to be. Yeah. Totally. I don't think Gino gets enough credit for actually like, he's a very good golfer on his own.

I mean, he's a scratch handicap. Um, so he's good at golf, but he also, like, he knows golf. He understands strategy. He's actually a very good caddy. Um, but like if I were to follow the cliff tomorrow, he would be perfect. He would be perfect. He's a very good caddy. Um, like if I were to follow the cliff tomorrow, he would be picked up very quickly by another

player out there. He's very well liked by everyone. He's respected by the players. Um, so I think that's a misnomer. Gino's just my buddy who just has a good time and we're just hanging out. Well, actually he's a very good caddy as well. And I'm lucky that, um, you know, like we kind of get both sides of that. Yeah.

Does he advise you on your fashion sense? Like, uh, the, the bucket look, the bucket rock. So bucket hat. I liked the bucket hat, but we were historians of the game of golf and as far as we know, uh, through, I think I've been watching golf for like seven years now. Um, no one's ever won a major championship whilst wearing a bucket hat. Correct. Yeah.

Uh, the bucket hat is, um, I don't know if it's quite a fashion statement, but it is great for skincare, uh, you know, protect yourself from, uh, from skin cancer. It's the number one way to do that. So I don't pretend that I look maybe the best out there, but I will say that when I'm 65 years old, my skin will not look like a crocodile wrinkled, leathery grouse as much as some other guys out there. So that's what I'm going with. It's also nice that you don't get that forehead line that everybody has.

Uh, there were some brood forehead lines in the Netflix documentary. Shocking. Yeah. I'm sure there's, there's a lot of those. I mean, Stuart Sink, I think is known for the most now with the bald head and that, which is, it's incredible to see even in person. But, uh, yeah, the, the tan is way more evened out, which is nice and, uh, keeps the sun off me for the most part, which is great.

Listen, bucket hats, no one's ever seen someone in a bucket hat and then like that guy looks so fashionable and awesome, like attractive, but they do look at it and they're like, that guy looks like a fun time. I would say so, especially if you're like a pool party and throwing the shades in the bucket hat, now you're protected and you're like the fun guy who's kind of the beach, the pool. That's right. And you, like you see a lot of younger guys doing it in the sun.

I think it's a great idea. Yeah. So you did mention, you did mention, uh, protecting against skin cancer. You have an unbelievable foundation you just launched. It's called the Damon family foundation, uh, not to get serious, but that part of the story on the full swing, that was a really like impactful. You lost your mother to cancer. You had cancer.

I think your brother had cancer. I mean, it's really, did they, when they brought those up, were they, were they trying to get you to cry or was it, cause I feel like there's something that happens in these documentaries, uh, where they maybe like showed you some really like sad pictures. And then they're like, all right, we got some questions real quick about your mom. Right. It was, I would say that, uh, I can talk about my mom 99% of the time without crying, but uh, you know, like you said, they, they, they pushed some buttons on there and they put

the, and they, I don't know, it's almost like the music comes on, you know, and those those things and you just feel like all of the feelings are there and they ask you these 20 questions and you're like, yeah, I mean, you, and you kind of get into it. I mean, you know, I've, it's, uh, so yes, correct. I think that that was their goal. They knew what they're doing and they're good at their job and it works. Uh, that's for sure. I did not plan on crying about my catty, but uh, crying about my mom and kind of the struggles

we had with cancer. Uh, yeah. I mean, that's just, it's, it's real and, uh, it sucks, but you know, everyone can actually, you know, you know, you can actually relate to that. Cause everyone has, everyone knows someone or either directly or one of their friends or whatever it is. So, uh, you know, cancer doesn't care who you are. Yeah.

And the Damon, uh, family foundation, go check it out now because it benefits, uh, children and families through the game of golf and, uh, focusing on cancer, cancer patients. So it's, yeah, you're right. Like everyone knows someone, uh, family member, friend who's dealt with cancer. So it's something that we should all rally behind that's, that's Go check out the foundation. Yeah. For sure.

I think we're going to, we're going to try to have a golf tournament in December in, uh, in Mesa, uh, Scottsdale area. So we'll try to launch one. I'll try to have some of you, uh, bar stool crazies come out and have a lot of fun. I know you have a bar out there now. Yes. So might as well. And we can get you guys swinging some clubs and then we'll go to the bar afterwards.

I'm in. I'm in. I shot a 72 at Shinnecock. I just want to let you know so you don't stand back. Did you shoot the 70? I shot the set. Well, so I went out to Shinnecock, uh, and then I played. And then after I wrote 72 on my, my, my scorecard.

Oh, well, great job. Thank you. Yeah. That's pretty simple. Like you could, the thing that people don't realize about golf, you can shoot whatever score you want when you just write on your scorecard. It's so stupid. It's so stupid.

People were like, I'm trying to get under a hundred. It's like, bro, you can be under a hundred tomorrow. Right. Uh, you just, just write it down and don't use a eraser on it. It's perfectly fine. Yeah. I had a, I actually did have a bunch of people hit me up being like, I didn't know you were that good.

It's like, yeah, man. It is what it is. It's really good that day. 72 at Shinnecock. That's awesome. I'm curious. I have one last question because I noticed, uh, more so during the documentary than I have watching golf about the, uh, the ludicrous size.

I don't know if it's the scorecards or the yardage books that you guys carry around in your ass pocket all day. Yes. Do you have to get special pants for that? Because it doesn't look like they fit in normal pocket. So that's funny. You say that they look even worse on the LPGA tour because the girls have like, you know, way, way smaller shorts or whatever.

And the pockets are smaller, but no, they, uh, the people who make the yards books, there's a couple of different companies, but there's a couple of popular ones out here. And they, they do fit in a normal pocket, but they are rather large. Um, and I still don't really, I just carry one cause that's what the good players do. I don't really look at mine that often. Uh, Gino does, which is good, but, uh, I don't really, yeah. So you can put, you know, you put your, your yards book in there. You put the pin sheet, you can put little notes and then you, a lot of people carry

the scorecard in there as well. So it does look funny, but a lot of people have their favorite teams on there or, you know, they put their nickname or whatever it is. My wife made mine like eight years ago. So I feel like I should use it still even though I don't really look at it, but it looks, it makes me look like the part more so than anything else. Oh yeah. By the way, congratulations on having a child.

That means you're going to play well. Yeah. Is that what that means? That that perspective thing and like the whole like life change thing. Yeah. And you take off more seriously. Yeah. I liked that.

That'd be great. Yeah. Which is even more shocking how max choked, uh, at the Genesis. So, but I mean, you, we do expect big things from you this year with new fatherhood. Well, yeah, it's been fun. We're, we're five weeks in, uh, my wife has been amazing. It's, it's amazing to watch what the women have to go through and then like their instincts just take over and all of a sudden they're just like this amazing mom.

So for me, I'm, I'm, I'm working at it. Uh, I'm, I'm participating a lot. I don't know if I'm good at it, but, uh, I am, I'm trying hard. I'm trying to make sure my wife's comfortable and, you know, I can do all the extra around the house, but it's been a lot of fun. I can't wait for the little man to grow up and, uh, you know, they say don't, don't wish for that. All that advice.

But man, I want my kid to be like 10 and playing sports and I can go yell at the referee's and do all that stuff. That's what I want to do. Yeah. And also you can use your child as a shield in case anybody accuses you of taking steroids. Yeah. Listen, I'm a father. I've, there are more important things in life than golf right now.

I wouldn't sully my body by doing that. Wow. Way to bring that back in. That was, that was impressive. That was true professional podcasting there. Yeah. No, it is true. I just, anytime I'm, I find myself in any issue, I'm like, listen, father or two dude,

like how could I, how could it's, it's whenever someone's trying to get out of a, a big issue, they're like, as a father and man of faith, how, how could I ever say this slur? Well, I said it, but how could I, right? That's fair. Yeah. That's a good point. Barstil, I got a big cat. I got to ask you.

Yeah. I think I first heard of you back when you were manhunting. Yes. The, the, uh, that was the first time you came across my feet. When we go manhunt something else or do something fun, I really enjoyed that, dude. That was, so if people don't know, it was, uh, back in 2013, the marathon bomber. Uh, it was an old Twitter, like very old, you know, Twitter 1.0. Dave and I did, we found the police scanner and we live treated kind of illegal looking

back on it. Cause like we actually probably, uh, harmed their own investigation. We were just live tweeting updates from the police. Wait, were you the guy? Were you on top of it? Yeah. Yeah. I was on top of it.

That one poor bastard, uh, get, get accused. No, no, no, no. That was us. No. It was, we were, that was before because that was like, there was a kid at like, uh, Brown or something. MIT or something. Yeah.

No, this was during the actual event. And then, uh, yeah, it was, that was a crazy time. I do, I was addicted to manhunting. I am down to manhunt something. So what should we do? Yeah. I'm pretty into that type of stuff. Well, I'm not sure.

Uh, I mean, I was willing to take your lead on it, but I would just, you know, let me know if, if one, if you see something come up that's worth manhunting, uh, I'm, I'm pretty into it. Dude, you know what? What about, uh, one Joseph Coney, the child soldier leader, you remember him? We never did find him back in 2012. Yeah. Uh-oh.

Uh, I'm going to have to look back into this, maybe we, should we, should we get on the trail again? Yeah. We should probably get back on it. I don't know if you saw, but I got, uh, since I had that like buzz for manhunting, I got addicted to like police scanners and stuff. And it, it all ended with like two months after that, there was an upside down horse in California that I was like live on the scene on the scanner.

And I was like, this is probably too much. Like I don't, I, being a police scanner person is a little weird. Like it was like four in the morning in Chicago and I was just like, we got a horse upside down in a hole. Like, what are we going to do? How are we going to get this horse out? How did you choose which scanner you would go on? I just go to big ones.

I just go to random ones. People would tip me off being like, Hey, we got a, we got a situation going on here. And I would just, and then, and then you, you, there's a point in your life where you're like, am I going to be a full blown police scanner guy? Uh, and I stopped it right then, which I think was the right choice. That was the right choice, but it was, I think if it's just big enough and it's, uh, you know, it's captive evading the entire country or the world, I think, I think you should get back on the chase again.

That was rather enjoyable. You know what the best start of the, the people that just dedicate entire Twitter account to like a college town, a small college town like Iowa, their police scanner. And then after a big win, it's all tweets, like, uh, there's a 19 year old female who's on top of a traffic signal. She refuses to come down. Yeah. I love those.

I love those updates. It, it, it's crazy. I'm not narcissistic enough to say that the, um, FBI literally, uh, tried to dupe me and Dave cause we were so hot on that marathon bombers case. If you remember how it ended, it was crazy because they called off the investigation. They're like calling off the manhunt. I went to walk my dog Stella and I came back and they're like, we got him. So it's like, they called it off to, so it's like, Hey, everyone go home.

Just kidding. Like manhunt over. And they caught him like 10 minutes later cause I think they were trying to get like everyone to like relax for a second. So they got, you know, it was a great time. It was a great time. I appreciate you following through that. Yeah.

I was, I'm all in on it. Yeah. Let's talk. Can we, can we quickly talk about Seattle sports? Cause you're a die hard. Yeah. Sports fan. Absolutely.

So would you like to tell us about Russell Wilson? Yeah. Super weird with that one. I was, I got to admit that I, I had his jersey. I was a huge fan. Um, and I believed in like what he was selling, uh, you know, that special water that could cure his concussions and like he actually like people actually liked him and, uh, he was great in the locker room and this raw raw stuff.

Like, and the amount of comebacks he had and like just the weird stuff that happened in his career, kind of, uh, it kind of all made sense. And then, uh, turns out he's brought is, is a bit much, but, uh, sounds like he's, you know, kind of got a big too big, too big for his boots and I'm glad that he's not a Seahawk anymore. And then all these stories are coming out. Wow. They didn't really like him at all.

So, uh, thanks, thanks for the super bowl. I appreciate Russ, but, um, you know, good luck down the road. What about the Kraken? Are we into the Kraken? We are. We're into the Kraken. Oh, hell yeah. So, uh, yeah.

I, uh, I split them with my cousin up there in Seattle, uh, got, I mean, I can't lie. I have not been to a game in two years, but you have the tickets in case you're in town and have nothing else to do that night. We sell 95% of them. I have a hoodie. I have a hat, uh, and I check the ESPN app every now and then. So I'm a pretty big, big, pretty big Kraken. Huge Kraken fan.

Oh boy. They're back. Like they're officially back. Yeah. It was nice to, to make the playoffs last year. Uh, I mean, that was a huge, I mean, I was, I grew up with Griffey, right? So like that 95 Mariners team when they came back from down, oh, two on the Yankees was like, when I was a huge, that was all of it for me.

And then in 2001 was our last time they made the playoffs, but they won 116 or 120 games in your season. And they obviously lost in the first round. So I think with Julio Rodriguez leading charge, we have some solid pitching, um, Jared Colnick is having, I think he had an awesome, uh, off season, he's got a good spring training and he might actually, uh, you know, kind of be dangerous this year and come in and do his own. So I'm actually a big Mariners fan, uh, follow along.

It's not just fake. Uh, so I'm, I'm super excited. I'm hoping, you know, we can kind of go on a run here. Yeah. Those mid nineties Mariners teams are some of the funnest to just go back and just name guys that we're in that lineup. Right. That's it.

So we had the most guys maybe ever in Major League Baseball. Mike Bowers and Joey Coran, Jay Buehner and Vince Coleman and Tina Martinez. Yeah. Dan Wilson catching. I mean, we had it all. It was awesome. They were so good. Yeah.

Yeah. And fun. What about, uh, what about the Sonics? Are you on team? Bring the Sonics back? Of course. Yeah. I think I was pretty disappointed when the Kraken came in, it was kind of a two, Hey,

if you can prove you have a hockey team, you can redo this arena. Um, you know, we can do this, but it's, it seems like it's down the road a bit. I, you know, I grew up again with Gary Peyton and Sean Kemp and Dela Shrimp and, you know, like unbelievable time to be a, a Sonics, you know, fan. And so, um, you know, and even then we had Ray Allen and when I was a freshman in college, maybe a sophomore, but we had Kevin Durant as a rookie there. So like it's, you know, in Seattle's basketball, I mean, if people follow it, like the, the high school scene is unbelievable.

How many players come out of Seattle area? So I think the culture's there. Um, and I think if you got a team back, I think it would be insanely popular. So hopefully it's happening, but the, the, the other problem is the NBA is so watered down now. Like the, the difference between the top five or six teams and then the bottom half is just atrocious. So like, if you just add two more teams, you're just going to, I mean, you might as well have

me play on the song because at this point, because they'd never win a game anyways. That would actually be really fun. I'd watch that. Yeah. Like that's a genius idea. Oh, yeah. I meant Seattle boy done good. Plays on the side and just gets absolutely torched every game.

Uh, we, we, I would, I would definitely not go inside the arc on offense or defense. So, uh, we go, I'd be like a terrible, be like the worst version of JJ Radick you've ever seen. We were talking during the, uh, dunk contest, they should have just some random guy come out onto the court and get dunked on, on every single dunk. So you have like an incredible like a 360 windmill, but then just some poor sap that just gets teabagged and falls into the second row just for the effect of it. Uh, we always say on tours, like you have a lot of people like, why don't we have like

the local club champion come play or the random 10 handicap come to you off first and come post a score and see like what it's, what it's really like out here. So I think if you're getting dunked on, that's not quite as much fun as playing golf, but and you can't put someone on a football field because they might actually die, right? But, uh, it would be nice to have just your normal average Joe thinks he's a decent player come on and, uh, you know, just watch him get clowned on. Yeah, it would. It would be awesome to remind us just like how insane these guys are.

Right, right. Right. We do sit on the couch and we're like, fuck this guy. Like he just rolled his ankle. Why can't he get back in the game? I mean, we, we did say that rock party's arm. It looks good to me, bro. She totally right.

I just like how did they miss that read? Like, get you throw it over here. Like it's not, it's so easy, but apparently it's not. It is so funny when you break down sports fandom. Like, I know Brock Purdy was very hurt, but there's also a part of me that's like, this guy's being such a pussy. It's like, we make so say, you know what I mean? Like, I'm fully aware of the fact that like that is wrong thinking and I am a wrong person.

Sure. But you, you can't deny that that part pops in your head and you're like, this guy is so soft, dude. Like, how is he not thrown off? Just grip. Of course. But that's why it's called fans, right? Isn't fans short for fanatics?

So like that's just, yeah, we're crazy. I, I do it like when I'm watching golf, I'll play in the morning and shoot three over and come sit on the couch and flip it. I'm like, oh, you can't hit it there. That's unbelievable. I'm like, oh, I guess beating me by seven. So like one of my God, you're terrible. I'm like, you literally, you're beating the crap out of me on the same.

I just play at the same golf course two hours before you. So, yeah, I mean, I do that all the time. Yeah. All right. So I had one last question, Joel. This has been awesome. We really appreciate you coming on. Roback question.

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Do you still have that? Yeah. Oh yeah. That thing is not leaving my, it's my hybrid. Talk us through that. So you have a, like no one has a $44 club in their bag, right? Like as pros. There are, there's actually another player who has the same high.

It might be Stuart Sink, actually, or maybe no, it's Lucas Glover has, has the same hybrid as me from the same, same time, 2011, I believe. So some guys will grab random putters. You can be very personal. Like putters are kind of whatever, like whatever you can make a putt with, you just kind of roll over it, right? So that's easy. But yeah, technologies came a long ways,

but I actually think with the certain hybrid that I have, it has been so good for so long. So it actually caved in on me after 10 years. So Gino bought three more on eBay at like 40 bucks a piece. So I have backups and then people have been sending me their hybrids. It's like, just, so I have a closet full of these things in case they ever keep breaking, I can just keep going to them. That's awesome.

That's like, that's like finding one pair of shoes you like and just buying them all. Yeah. I mean, that's, I'm not quite there yet, but I can see one day where I will be that person you have, you have cornered. So is it, is it like, is there anything special about the club? No, that's, that's the crazy part. It's even like the shaft is like straight off the, it's off the rack. Is it called, it's not, it's just like anyone can go on eBay, grab this hybrid.

And it's 20 degrees. So it's like a, like a two hybrid for me goes about two 25, 230 yards. And so I use it into part fives and shorter into a lot of part threes out here on tour and it's obviously my favorite club. But you look down, it's all scratched. Like the paint's coming off. Like there's just, there's still the sticker on the shaft. You know, it said like pre-owned.

So it's pretty great. But this is what I liked. It's, it works for me. Did you name it? No, I have it actually, but someone made me a head cover with Gino's face on it. And it said, like Gino's favorite club, please pick me or whatever. So I stuff this, it's not very good looking head cover. It's not Gino's fault.

It's just like this brownish looking one, whatever. But the actual face, just Gino's smiling faces on there. So I'm just, that's just floating around with me in the bag all the time, which is great. If I was a golfer, I would name my clubs. That'd be sick. Yeah. That is a smart idea. I should, I should look into that.

Yeah. And Henry, Henry, the hybrid, maybe Henry. That's a terrible name. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a winner. Maybe Hank. Yeah.

Hank. Yeah, but Hank's kind of like the tank. And this guy isn't really a tank. He's more like a sniper. Okay. So yeah, also don't. Chris Kyle golf balls, like the size of a ping pong ball. They'll be bad luck.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Joel, thank you so much, man. There's been so much. Yeah, thank you guys. This is awesome. You guys are, I fall along to all of your hooliganness and all the crazy stuff you guys do.

But yeah, you guys are great. Thanks for having me on. Yeah. Appreciate it. And we'll definitely have you back on again when you love, you're going to win something big this year. I feel it. I feel it.

I love that. I'm not, I'm going to, I'm going to try my hardest. I'm going to put a little, not more work in, but I'm going to continually work at it and hopefully the stars align for me. Same amount of work. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Hey, listen, you're good at golf, man. I just want you to know that. Yeah. Actually, that sucks. Like the fact that he just gets drunk and says that what, like who wants to drink with that guy? Yeah, you're right.

I mean, he's too serious. He's too good. So I got to go out. I got to beat him these next couple of weeks. So I have some, so I have some bullets in my chamber next time he comes talking crap to me. I love it. I love it.

All right. Thanks so much, Joel. Appreciate it, man. Okay. Great interview with Joel Damon. Thank you so much. Everyone go check out his foundation. Uh, let's wrap up.

We have, if you skip the head, by the way, we had something happen right before the ad Hank peed in a bottle. I peed in a bottle. And if either of us get the lottery ball number correct, the other person has to drink out of their bottle. So that is going to happen. I'm going to get the number. I'm going to get the number.

Uh, okay. Chicago FAQs. Yes. Quickly before Billy is wearing the hat, I've been wearing it for the last month or so. PFT liked it so much. He basically stole mine when he saw me wearing it. Uh, those are on sale today as well.

So I would, I would say it's the best hat we've ever made. I agree. Confidently say that. I wear it all the time. Agreed. Yeah. No, PFT literally was like, why do you get that?

Yeah. No, Hank does. He big dogged you. Hank, he gets his grubby little mitts on the, on the merch before anybody else gets a chance at it. Yeah. Yeah. And I happily gave it to you because they're great hats.

All right. Uh, Chicago FAQs. How many people asked for jobs? Uh, memes went through these, so I'm sure he filled through those out. Okay. Uh, hey fellas, can you give us a rundown of all the features of this new office? I've heard there will be a basketball court, but what else besides that? Workout area, tennis court, batting cages, turf area, pool, hot tub, sauna,

steam room, pool tables, ping pong, et cetera. No ping pong table. I'll hang up and listen. Oh, I'll have a ping pong table. Yes, it is. No, we're going to take it away for five hours. Got it. Uh, it's going to be incredible.

Uh, a big reason for the move is you can't get this type of, uh, office in New York city. We'd have to go live like deep into New Jersey or something for that. Uh, but the office is going to have a ton of awesome stuff. So a full basketball court, uh, a full golf simulator, full workout area. We're going to have a, uh, turf stretch where we can do shit competitions and stuff. The, the warehouse is big enough that we'll be able to play wiffle ball. Uh, we have a ton of different new studios.

PFT is going to have a music recording studio. Uh, there is a kitchen for cooking videos. The gambling cave is going to be sick. It's basically if you thought about like if barstool sports met, uh, I don't want to say dude, perfect. Just do perfect. All right. Fantasy factory.

Yeah. Fantasy Rob Geordex fantasy factory. Yes. There's, and then we still have, you know, we're going to have a bigger green screen room, a bigger studio for stuff. Like it's going to be everything we've wanted. Uh, we'd love, we've loved our time in New York, but this office, I'd say we've outgrown a long time.

I also think, I mean, you guys are, it was, it was just, us through when we moved to New York, but like when we were doing the show remotely talking about moving to New York, like this is what we were trying to get. Right. Correct. It just didn't work out space wise. Yes.

But this has been something I would say has been in the works and like it's not, you know, we didn't just start thinking about it. We've always desired like to have this space and now that we have it, it's going to be. We actually looked when we first moved to New York. I remember Dave, Kevin and I went and looked at spaces and we looked at a space in Long Island city that was similar to what we're getting. And Dave was like, it's too far away from Manhattan.

So it is, yeah, the amount of content that we're going to be able to create day to day is going to be insane just by the space that we have. Hank has actually been talking to me about maybe getting a full F18 cockpit. Oh yeah, we're going to have a new gaming room too. So the full F18, Hank says that there's room in the budget. So that's going to be incredible. But I told him that he just came into some money and that's a good investment. That is a good point though, PFT, because we will have a new gaming room.

And I will I when the NCAA game comes out, I'll bring back to like that kind of stuff. We don't have a lot of those things in this office right now. When is the move happening? I'm going to be, I think the first one out there as far as I know. Yeah. So I'm heading out. I'm heading out in June. Same. And I'm going to get to spend a full summer in Chicago. I've spent a grand total of probably 15 to 20 days in Chicago over the course of

my life. I'm told it's the best summer city in the country. Very fun. So there will be a fleet of boats, there will be a lot of golf being played and it will be a great place to get my feet wet. I am I'm going to probably move sometime in July, depending on baby three, when his arrival is. And then in terms of when the new office will be opening, it's set date of September 1st.

So four. So planned for November. Yeah. No, there'll be some there'll be some hiccups to start. But we will hopefully be in the new office for football season. So that's actually a good question because June and July, we might be getting a little creative with some of our taping. I assume people will be cool with that. But we will obviously still have a show every single Monday, Wednesday, Friday is just we might be doing a little bit of remote taping.

I might come to Chicago and do it in the old office. You guys might come back here for a couple of tapings, but we'll figure it out. So there might be about a six week stretch where some of us are there and some of us are. Yeah. And if you can't make it out, I'll just do the show, the White Sox Dave. Yeah. People love that. Yeah. No, it's going to be I I guess this is probably, you know, we didn't we had a lot less listeners back then, but. In my mind, it's no listeners back.

It's like the same as when we moved to New York, which obviously that summer was very much like chaos. Yeah. I mean, well, the first six months of this show was all right. Right. Yeah. And technology has come a long way because remember how bad the audio was with Skype shows. Yeah. And sometimes our producer just wouldn't be awake. Yeah. And now we have I actually think we'll that I mean, that's that we, you know, long days in the boat

and then trying to record a podcast like that might happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jumping off a bridge into the ocean. That's why we're not moving to LA. Is the whole PMT crew relocating to Chicago? Good question. Good question. That's what people want to know. I'm I'm like 50 50. I'm I'm less than that.

Yeah. I mean, it seems fun. It seems like a cool city, but I have to be sold on it a little bit more. So everyone. So there's a bunch of people moving from the office, including a lot of the PMT guys. I think we're going to do by April 1st. We'll have a full answer to exactly who's coming and who's not. But Hank, Max, PFT, myself and then there's, like I said, a bunch of people in the office. I think there's some people in the office that are weighing their options.

So by April 1st, we will know exactly. But I think a lot of people know, like Brandon, KB, Nick, Kate, Mark Titus, who else? My uncle, Chaps is coming. Am I missing some people? Donnie Donnie. Donnie just dropped that on us yesterday. Yeah, I'm very excited. Chef Donnie and want on Don. So I've heard. Yes, I've heard that as well.

Well, why? Well, I love Donnie so much. He can't not I love Chef Donnie as well. But and I had a conversation with him a few months ago. But want on Don came up to me. It was like, I was just thinking, maybe like, I don't I travel a lot. Like, maybe I'll come to Chicago. It's like, yes, yeah, dude. Yes. Yeah, he he brought that up out of nowhere a couple of days ago.

I was like, yeah, OK. Yeah, yeah, I would rule. Yes. Ah, Jerry, Jerry's coming. Maybe Steven Shea. There's a lot of people. So it'd be great. It'll be a great, great group. Big T. Big T. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. So there's a there's a lot of good people. First, congratulations on the move.

Do you think it will be harder to get guests in Chicago versus New York City? Good question. I think the the truthful answer to that is yes, a little, a little bit, because there just won't be as many guests in person. Yeah, our mission will be to be the spot that you go. Like, we're Chicago. If you're coming there for sports, you're going to stop and talk with us. Yes. So I've thought about this because obviously there will probably be

the way I've broken down in my brain. I think a lot of people who listen to the show, there's some really good guests. Joel Damon was was a good, you know, why am I losing my words was a good example of that. A guy we never met comes on. Great guest. We'll still be able to do that, obviously, via Zoom. There are also some interviews that we do with the press junkets that don't always land.

I think those are interesting, but we might lose out on a couple of those. But like PFT said, I do think that because we're the number one sports podcast, whenever people come to Chicago, they will come especially to our office and want to see that. So it might be a little bit, but I don't think it's going to be drastic enough that people are going to be like, Oh, my God, they can't get any guests. And we'll throw this out there. We we are going to travel still to get guests if we have to.

Like we've been talking about doing a week in LA every year. Like if if we have big guests, a lot of our big guests we travel to and we will still do that. Is a BP going to make sure to have loud heating pipes in the new Chicago pod room? Yes. And I want to be next to a fire station. Yeah. It's my only two requests that I asked him.

Yeah. As long as I have three requests for him, I want to have the worst pipes in America. I want to be next to an ambulance. And then I would also like the Wi-Fi to never work. Yes. So we've got the right man for the job. I'm pretty sure these pipes are voice activated. Yes, I'd agree. Max, are you excited to be behind the glass?

Sure. Max is going to be behind the glass. We're going to have glass because they can edit it faster. When they're when they're actually. So I didn't know this. Hank told me this. We've been doing this for seven years. Is that true? Oh, you made this up? Hold up. Let him wait.

You made this up. No, I don't think you just miss. Miss understood what I was saying. Finish your thought, though, because I'm curious what your interpretation is. When we finish recording, he has they have to take it all from these computers and they can't edit it until they go back to their computers. True or false?

You said that to me. True. That that that takes the the the. Oh, he made it seem like it was a big fucking deal. No, no, no, no, no, the the point was that we have memes, Evan and Shane, who are not in the room. Oh, so they can listen live and make notes and like, you know, right, like that makes that's a good clip, whatever. That makes in real time.

I thought memes are just listening somehow on his computer. No, like they they we've record for an hour and then they listen. Yeah. BFT. Do you think that means comes in occasionally and he like references something that's talked about at one point. It's possible, but like, yeah. No, on on the weekends, he can go and listen in the control room. So now we'll have everyone in the like we'll have everyone in the room

and then Max and the boys will be behind the glass with Mike so they can still talk, but it'll be nice for them. The show should get better for that. Yes. It was a good idea in theory for us to put this fucking squat rack in here. I would say it's probably like we could have used the space better. The nice thing about the new Chicago office is we'll have a squat rack in the office so we don't have to put it in our.

I think we should have two squat racks. I don't want to wait. I don't want to wait. Times where I'll like I'll move back and like, what the fuck? I forgot we have a gym in here. I don't want to wait. And Nick is in the squat rack. Yeah. And then I have to.

True, true. Our new studio is going to be sick. Yeah, it's going to be sick. My favorite days of Barcel were in HQ two and everyone was always interacting with each other and there was drama captured on stool scenes. Is that part of the vision for Chicago office? And what was the main motivation for the move to Chicago? That is the that is it right there.

What they just said. So that was also my favorite time. Covid happened. The New York office. A lot of people spread out. It's not really popping like if it's it's us a lot of times. And there's not a ton of people. I mean, there's people who come in and out, but they don't come every day.

There's a lot of people come a couple times a week. It's not consistent. The first New York office was consistently a madhouse. The Chicago office is going to be pretty much the only requirement is you have to show up every day. And so that will hopefully bring back some of that. Genesee Qua. Yeah. And I guess the thing about this move is there's a lot that we can say

that we're going to do once we get there. And we do have a lot of big plans. But the fact that it's going to be a brand new place, brand new people interacting, there will be side projects and spinoffs and new series and all sorts of new stuff that we can't possibly predict right now until we get out there and start mixing everybody out in that terrarium with each other and see what's clicking. So. But that person's point is exactly what I've thought is that it's kind of.

It hasn't died here, but it's definitely slowly petered out. And a lot of people are in, you know, the space is just not good for it anymore. I think COVID, it like we started coming in and the general like for probably a year or so is basically like, you know, we don't want people, we don't want people interacting at the office, come to the office, do your show and leave. And that has just kind of stayed as like the people's routines.

Right. Yeah. Right. We just kind of pretended that we weren't allowed to come into the office and are we sorry. The other way we pretended that we were allowed to come into the office for a long time. Right. We just came in, but it was like, man, we probably shouldn't have all these people here. So just come in and like do your show and leave. Right. Don't be like interacting.

But the Madhouse is going to happen. There should be a daycare in the office. That's a bad idea. Bar school sports. All right. A couple, a couple last ones. Where did it go? Oh, do you have any nerves moving cities and offices? Big step. Excited for you all.

Moving socks. Yeah. The act of moving socks. I'm very excited. Yeah, I can't wait. I'm very excited. I'm going to play so much golf. Yeah, there's a shitload of golf courses that you can drive. I mean, that's the other people can have cars, all this stuff.

But the act of moving is the worst. Like I haven't thought about it yet, especially I'm going to have three kids are moving that part. Yes, I am going to hate so much. So I just burn it all. Yeah, that's good. Maybe like sign it, you know, interior design deal or something. What kind of interior design will just show up with a flamethrower?

No, like just get rid of all my shit and get shit. Oh, I like that. I like that move. Yeah, I like new wardrobe, everything. Yeah, new city, new you. Yeah, that dude, you should do that. Bring my TVs. Don't even bring them.

I got a big TV. I'm doing seven on my wall. So looking at looking at Chicago houses, a lot of them have the same type of format where the basement is just one the basement is just guy room. Yeah, and I've been looking at every single basement and just imagining because I miss basements so much. I grew up with basements.

My friend, well, I didn't have one. My friends had basements. They're the best places to hang out in the world. Yes, don't have them in Texas. The grounds too hard. Don't have them in New York. I'm going to have the best basement of all time. It's going to be it's going to be all my pent up basement envy that I had as a child,

not having one of my own. I'm going to turn my basement into the best room in any house that I've ever been in. Yeah, this is a perfect place for a flight simulator. Think about this. Like, it's not going to be enough room going to having rooms in your home that you don't even go in. Yeah, that doesn't happen in New York City. Yeah, you use every single fucking piece of your house. Are you are you going to have that one weird room in your house where you walk in

and then you turn to the left and it's that room that nobody goes. There's always that room. Fucking fuck that room. Yeah, that room sucks. That room sucks. Like you like like basically Thanksgiving Christmas in like one other time a year. But it's not even a dining room. Yeah, no, no, it's a room with cheese before because it's like,

oh, we shouldn't be watching TV right now. Let's all sit and have a conversation, fuck conversation, put on the TV. That room is it's the room that your parents bring you into when they're telling you that they're getting a divorce. Yeah, and it's never used besides that. Yes. That's it. That's it. Yeah, we're very excited. I'm sure there'll be more questions, but yeah, the big pieces that people should take away is September will hopefully be the new office opening.

The move will happen over the summer. Also, we've been talking, I think, what we're going to do. So we'll all have moved, but I think we might do a back to back to our roots grit week and go through the Rust Belt and maybe bring maybe bring our piles. That's how we do it. We bring our piles on the RV. I was thinking about that. Two things related to the pilot.

One is we're going to have to get rid of our piles before we leave somehow. Two, do you think people right now are looking at our corner and already like minty staking claims on what they're going to say? This studio is being taken by someone. Yeah, they don't know yet. I ask all the time, they don't know. They don't know they're taking it. Give us a hint. Why don't I don't know?

What if we just lock the door when the last one leaves? We should leave it like this is a time capsule. Yeah, we should. Yeah, we should do a time capsule. Museum. People can start. We should do a time capsule before we leave New York. Yeah, we should bury a box in Central Park. Yeah, and we should make it just filled with lies about stuff that didn't happen. Yeah, like congrats to the commanders and the bears won six Super Bowls

during the initial run of part of my shitload of predictions, too. Yeah, that like we like see. We told you the Astra or the Rangers in in 2055 was going to win the World Series. Yeah, let's do that. Time capsule, time capsule. There's a dude who buried a beer in college. We should keep the water machine back and and and and just like grab the shovel and just started digging. It was like, what the fuck are you doing?

It was just one single bushlight. That's all. That's just rock. Yeah, somebody makes sure to put a note down, put in some sort of memory machine for us. Let's do it. No, we're not we're not leaving a lot. We're we're not only actually only bringing the lottery ball. I'm buying a bigger lottery ball machine that you'll lose on that, too. We're going to have one that's like featured in the office. We should do a ball pit.

Yeah, and all the all the balls have numbers on them. And what about the green couch? Fuck that green couch. Green couch. We should. I mean, it's broken and never got fixed. We should sell that. We should sell that for charity. Yeah, people would buy it. Yeah, for charity. I almost matched, but we don't know how much that was sold for. A lot, a lot, a lot, a lot.

What if we burn it? Yeah, you're right. You know what? Fuck, fuck those. Yeah, fuck the kids. Well, we burn it for charity. Oh, OK. Yeah, talked that one out. Yeah, we're going to burn it and then the charity money comes in. Yeah. OK. Hank. Yes. Have you ever gotten the number on this?

No. OK, so this is an interesting one. So I'll take a sip of this if you get it and you'll take a sip of that if I get it. Yeah. Hey, do we have anyone else in here? Do you have my clothes? I ordered your your Arizona merchandise at the end of last show. Do you have it? You're such a bitch.

Also, Venmo. I listened last show. I was getting I was getting dragged for not giving the second half. Venmo will not allow it. Well, no, you didn't know. Yeah, I mean, you did the classic scam artist thing. You said half being like the other half will come. You got your eyes. I have great.

I have tried to send it multiple times and it's too much. Venmo is not happy with me. Oh, interesting. That's how it's going. So Roan, who you went with, said it. Yeah, well, Roan's probably got a much bigger bank account than me. So so you don't have the money. I do have the money.

I do have the money. Well, then that shouldn't be an issue. You think Venmo checks the size of your account? Maybe I'm going to try it right now. There's no way you're going to do it. All right. Number six, nine, 18. I also did the research.

Yeah. Winners. Yes, 17 of the numbers. Me, PFT and Billy all have four. What was that? Max, Big Cat and Liam all got it once. I think I have one on the 15 winners. Yeah, which doesn't Mickey Mouse. Wow, I got four. So many. I'm going to 88 for Patrick Kane.

That was recent. Remember, three of the last four have been a double number. I'm going to go 22. All right. Can I change? No. All right. What? No, what? No, you can't. No, yeah, I'm going to say, no, you can change.

You can change officially. Yeah. Confirmed. Yes. Confirmed. Eight, 17. I'll take I'll switch mine to 17. Big Cat. That was so dumb. That was really dumb.

What do you have? 88, 88, 17, 69, 18. Max, I hope 17. It's so bad. If 17 hits, you have to drink both of our piss. Fuck you. 30. Oh, you're way off. 30.

You're never going to do that. That actually was the scariest one. That was really dumb. Should we run it back? Yeah. Counting? No. No.

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