Pardon My Take - Playoff Baseball, CFB With Brandon Walker, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin, Jets And Bengals Are A Disaster + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Playoff Baseball is here and we recap all the action from Tuesday's games. Memes is doing a hate watch of the MLB playoffs and we get to the bottom of the WNBA scuttlebutt (00:00:00-00:36:21). We talk MNF and the Jets and Bengals being a disaster and get a status check with Memes on the future of the Jets. Broncos got right and the Bengals need to trade for Jameis (00:36:21-01:10:43). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including some Ryder Cup clean up (01:10:43-01:40:27). Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin joins the show after his big win against LSU Saturday to talk ball, his daughter dating an LSU player, his dog tweeting out of pocket, new plays, visors and how good he looks (01:40:27-02:10:02). Brandon Walker joins us in studio to talk narratives in CFB, can James Franklin win the big one? Can Kirby Smart beat Georgia? Heisman, who the best team is and tons more (02:10:02-03:06:07). We finish with guys on chicks (03:06:07-03:14:08).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Yeah. Part of my take. Yeah. Part of my take. Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Wednesday, October 1st. And October means one thing, PFT, playoff baseball. We started the wild card.

and it was Haas Day. I was going to say it's time to wake up Billy Joe Armstrong. Yes. Yes, you're also correct. Terrick Scouble was awesome today. Incredible way. He'd have 14 strikeouts? 14 strikeouts.

Terek Scruble was was a hoss. Garrett Crochet was a hoss. Blake Snell was a hoss. First time I think he's ever had six, six innings. What are you doing? What are you doing? Southpaw day. The hosses came to play today.

We had the opening round of, of the wild card in playoff baseball, which underrated day. We were saying it. The boys were chopping it up before we were recording. We're doing this on Zoom right now. We're back in studio for the rest of the show with Brandon Walker and Lane Kiffin. We're saying this is kind of underrated, this sneaky, great, great day in the sports calendar year where you're like, oh, shit, we get four baseball games all day, and we just

like noon hits, and you're like, holy shit, it's playoff baseball time. It's a really good day, but I think maybe the all-time great day talk. might be influenced by the fact that you guys have three teams in the playoffs that you're all super excited about that's fair that's totally fair it was mostly max loves baseball max a baseball guy he is through and through and you're saying that he loves baseball he was tuned into every team he's a seamhead that's a seamhead that's facts max right yeah i know i mean meaningful sports that are that mean this much during the day the work day don't come around often that's true so it's like that's all i was saying is that

There's only a few days in the calendar year. Well, I said meaningful. Meaningful sports that didn't this much during the day don't come around that often. I mean, you're right. Like having good meaningful sports on during a meaningful day is extra meaningful. Right. Big time. And it's meaningful to me.

Right. And that's really what matters. And it's, yeah, it means a lot to you. But yeah, let's break down what you got. I just can't get over. Ever since Zach has joined the. these uh zoom calls with the nice camera looking at zack and then looking at max looking like he's doing like sales yeah it's just it's tough to get over zach it's a wild different

Zach's camera like i don't want to i don't want to take this in a weird direction but it does look like we're like about to enter a porn with zach you know like those like they're like oh shit it's the 4k girl with the p ov glasses holy shit you can feel like you're getting fucked that's what I feel like Zach's about to do to us. No porn over here. Okay. All right. Well, it is.

I also like how his camera's like off center just a little bit that he's looking into. It's kind of cool. It's like we're all looking at the screen at each other. And Zach's like, yeah, chilling off to the side. Like you're looking at me, but I might not be looking at you. Yeah. I can fix that. No, no.

With the eye contact a little bit. No, it looks great. All right. Let's break down the games. Game one, Terrick Scoobel, incredible performance. 14 strikeout. Tigers got in a little bit of trouble there in the ninth with Javi Baez having an error. It looked like the Guardians, like the Guardians, at least the way they finished the season,

have some team of destiny type of vibes. And when that happened, it was like, oh, boy, they're about to waste Terrick Scoobel's 14 strikeout performance, a total, like he just shoved in every definition because he's had some starts. I think it was, what, a week ago where he lost to the Guardians. So this was like, yeah, I am the boss. I am the man. I'll come into Cleveland.

I'll do this. And they almost blew it, but they were saved in the end. And the tigers, like, this is the beauty of October. They finish the season so bad. And now they're up one, and it's a new season for him.

Yeah, it was a week ago. I think he hit somebody in the face. Yeah. And then he came back and pitched almost as many pitches as he pitched this year in a game, was still hitting the high velocity at the end. And if you beat him, you can't give up like rinky dink runs you can't you can't let the tigers look into any runs out

there because you're not going to get it back against scoble yeah so like the errors in the outfield careless stuff but i do i do see the guardians being one team that they could fuck shit up just by playing like weird small ball yeah i could see them doing that but you're going to have to do a lot of it against scoble and they didn't have they didn't have enough yeah he was absolutely sensational and i just there's something about him like the way he yells on the mound is his size he's just so he's a throwback ace in every respect he also went and visited that guy in the hospital yeah he did ultimate ultimate respect yeah scoobbles is the man he's he's a great dude and he's the man and he absolutely shoved today uh game two i was at game

two i was at rigley it was electric uh very nerve wracking because the cubs look like they didn't have much of an offense uh and then we had back-to-back home runs and Craig counsel, who has been maligned at times in his stay in Chicago, did a perfect job with the bullpen. And the bullpen had, I think it was four in a third or four in two thirds, perfect innings to close the game. So Boyd started, had a, you know, like a blooper double and then a hard hit double to give up a run, stranded a guy on third in the second, which was huge.

And then Palencia, who, you know, was the closer, got injured. came back, came in in the fifth, and was lights out for five outs and was just like electric. And the crowd was, it was awesome because the Cubs haven't won a playoff game since 2017. So it had been a long time. They hadn't had a playoff game at Wrigley with fans since then as well. Tell me about the mood in the stadium for the back-to-back jacks. Dude. Because back-to-back playoff home runs, especially in a situation like that, it seems like the best place to be on Earth.

It was so electric. And I mean, Seya's home run was absolutely pissed on. It was out so fast. I also saw afterwards that ESPN muted the crowd, like, as he was rounding the bases, which is an absolutely insane thing to do for playoff baseball. The crowds in playoff baseball are so much fun. And it was so fucking loud at Wrigley. And then Kelly's home run, which I didn't think was going to go out, it just kind of

kept on going. It was like the opposite of Sayas, where it just like was like, oh shit, is this going to go out? Oh, shit. Is this going to go out? Oh, shit. It just went out. And then the roof came off. And it was just like everyone was just absolute euphoria at Wrigley. And it was so much fun. Was it high five strangers? Oh, dude. It was high five strangers. We had, uh, we had some. So I went with my friend Dave, Titus and Eddie came with me. I brought them. And, uh, there was four stoolies in front of us who like, they heard me and Eddie talking or me and Titus talking. I was sitting next to Titus talking. in like the second inning and they turn around and they're just like oh fuck it's you guys they became instant friends high fiving just going crazy high five and everyone in front

high five and everyone in back um and then not to i i love pcaa because uh he's the best but i did say uh after the back-to-back home runs i was like if i could bet a million dollars right now on pca striking out swinging i would do it and he did because he was feeling like the the mood was just like he wanted to launch one so bad so bad yeah i i love that feeling when you're high-fiving strangers at a sporting event that's how guys make new friends yeah it's just like it's it's the best feeling in the world you turn around there's a hand in the air high five hand in the air high five you spill a drink on yourself doesn't matter the mood seemed awesome for that what about the uh the best friends you'll never meet see again in your life yeah yeah i mean we took we literally still best friends

my my my uh computer's making noise there uh we literally took a picture after the game like all of us it was like this is awesome we all got into a group picture it's like that was a fucking great day it was just a beautiful beautiful like there was not a cloud in the sky everyone was in a great mood it was awesome yeah that's that's how dudes make friends girls like chat with each other at workout classes and get each other's phone number guys just high five another drunk dude and then become best friends for like two and a half hours yeah it's like a one day stand it's a it's a great what about the PCA the catch at the warning track was that the ninth inning yeah because that when that when that ball got hit i thought oh shit here we go i actually wasn't that worried about it i

think i have a pretty good uh sense of like because you know the crowd will like if there's a hard hit ball like michael bush hit one in the first inning where everyone like went like went crazy i was like there's no way that's out um i have a pretty good sense so i was just like just catch it just catch it and i was just more worried anything that went towards say yeah because he's playing right now and he's he's not the best he's a serviceable outfielder but he also can fuck things up and so i like there was one that was i think i can't remember it's maybe the sixth inning where it was in between them and sea wanted it and pca was like no it's fucking mine and like called them off also dansby swanson's awesome a defense that's something that just doesn't like it's such

an underrated thing because you the i i forgot like playoff baseball you basically spend every inning every if you're a home team every top of the inning you're just fucking so scared because you're like only bad things can happen right now and then when you get to the bottom you're like all right I can breathe a little like let's just hope we can string together a couple

runs you know what I mean so it's that up and down constantly that goes back and forth where you're just like fuck this is like if a guy if a runner gets on in playoff baseball you're like this is this is over we're fucked we're so fucked yeah yeah also I'll give you a little analytics

I don't know if you can bet this on the Drafking Sportsbook. Maybe we can figure out a way to get this listed. Mark Titus and I have gone to two Cubs playoff games together in our lives. Both wins, both games, the Cubs hit back-to-back-home runs. And I'm taking them tomorrow. Okay. So I don't know if you can bet it back-to-back home runs again. If we go three for three, that would be insane.

I don't know. that should be a prop back to back yeah so it was the it was the game one of the nLCS in 2016 um when miguel montero and i think it was dexter fouler right after uh we were all in the bleachers and then today so i don't know maybe bet it i i don't know how you can bet it but it was it was an awesome day it was very very fun i was very like it was just it was just a great day it was like one of those like perfect days you're like this was so much fun and had a great time and it's Also, shout out the pitch clock. Like, I had a very hard, I went from Cubs game,

high-fiving, like, euphoria, um, directly into my son's six-year-old soccer practice, like sitting there watching, uh, kids like fall over the ball and stuff. And I was like, you know what? This is life now. But shout out the pitch clock because I made it to a soccer practice with plenty of time. Your children on the sidelines, they don't know that the Cubs just want a playoff game.

I was just like, I was like, that was really. fun and now I'm here and you know and like basically like making sure my daughter doesn't kill herself on the playground. All right. The third game, another hoss, crochet, Hank, unbelievable. He had, what do you have? 14 straight outs? Yeah, he was had the ball on a string. Beautiful, beautiful thing to watch. So were you nervous at all in this game? Because it was what? One one solo home run for the Yankees and then the, the Red Sox actually played like good playoff baseball manufacturing. some runs. Yeah, Sogard, this is, this is, this is pink cat Henry or newcomer Henry.

I was always under the impression that Aaron Judge had an absolute canon. And then Sogarde ran out a single into a double and everyone was like, yeah, they knew like Judge's arm is a noodle arm now and he can't throw and like made him, you know, made him look stupid. He got hurt. That's news to me. I guess that's, yeah. Yeah.

So, and then manufactured runs. And the ninth inning was interesting because. Chapman came in in the eighth for one out and then back in the ninth and he loaded the bases with no outs and the Yankees didn't score any runs. The weirdest part was, did you hear the broadcast being like, he's not sweating yet? Yeah, I don't know what that was all about. That was so, like usually he's sweating a lot and he hasn't sweat. He's not sweating yet. And then he loaded the bases and they're like, look, he's sweating now.

and then he just mowed everyone down. By the way, the entire broadcast, the audio for that broadcast, I don't know what was going on where it sounded like there was a hand grenade going off every time there was an out. Did you guys hear that? Yeah.

Because I heard a lot of people saying, oh, I thought that was just on my TV. It was unlistable. I had to turn the sound almost all the way down for the entire game. I don't know what they had. If they had a mic on first base, if the crowd was just redlining,

I don't know what it was, but ESPN's got to figure that shit out. Yeah. Stop mutings, crowd noise, and figure out the hand grenade situation. Pretty easy. But, yeah, Chapman went out there, pissed down his leg immediately and then just settled in. I saw a stat that the Yankees are the first team in postseason history to load the bases with nobody out in the bottom of the ninth, but not score a run and lose the game. Jesus. Pretty crazy.

Jesus. Yeah, you can hear there's did have a big single. Yeah. He did. Yeah, he ripped that one. nice left the middle. He had a huge single. Are you a team team field reporter?

PMT field reporter gas was there. He said it was Fenway South. So that was good to hear. Oh, a lot of Red Sox fans. Oh. Yeah. Wait, what was your question,

PFT? Panic button? Like what is the panic meter for a Yankees fan right now? I mean, the three game series thing is crazy. It really is. Like the, because I'm sitting here, you know,

the Cubs are up 1-0 and I'm like, oh, this is great. Like, obviously you still, there's two more games, but it's just being down, oh one and having an elimination game like that is it's crazy so the panic button button's got to be way out and i think i i just saw like my uh twitter explode with just people being like aaron boone's the dumbest person ever i was like oh it's october that was literally the turning

of the clocks because i saw that extend boon was trending again and i agree we've always said that about erin listen you got to give the man some time to implement his systems you got to a steady hand guiding the New York Yankees through a tumultuous time in baseball. Aaron Boone's the guy. Keep him around. Yeah. So my last question about this game was did we find a hack on live betting

Chapman with the sweating thing? Because the announcers called it out and they were actually correct that he did start to sweat and then he started to pitch well. Is there a chance that maybe after he pitched in the eighth inning he used a towel? Maybe. I don't And drive some of this one?

I don't know, but the guy needs sweat on him to perform. He is a sweaty guy. They are right about that, but I didn't like, I wasn't watching close enough to be like, oh, shit, he doesn't have any sweat on him. Yeah, that doesn't really hold up. I don't know. It's a very weird thing for the announcers to zero in on. I was wondering why are they making a big deal out of it.

But, yeah, if he doesn't sweat, yeah, I'll load up on him. Yeah. All right. The last game. uh which is still in the seventh inning but we're calling it early the dodgers are so fucking unfair they're so good they're like just to even start this game with show a hitting a lead off home run it's like oh like that might be the fastest that a team's ever been eliminated he smacked the shit out of that ball too that ball was gone and then he hit another one and then t oscar hernandez hit

two and it's just like and then freddie freeman hit a double it's just they they just the waves of dodger hitters are just insane and now the Reds obviously are not you know it's a little bit of a mismatch a great story that the Reds are in the playoffs but the Dodgers look and then Blake Snell I think it was his first time I got to try to find that stat I think it was his first time going uh into the sixth in a playoff game and he was electric as well so it's like if he starts pitching like an absolute hoss yeah he's probably too skinny to be a hoss for the first time Jeff Passon said for the first time in his career, Blake Snell is thrown a six innings,

six innings in a postseason game, and they've been phenomenal one hit, one walk, nine strikeouts, only 70 pitches. He gave up a run in the seventh. But yeah, he was lights out. Yeah, I agree. I don't think that he's a host, though. He's a, he's too small.

He's a pony. Yeah. All right. Any, any, back to Jacks in that game was awesome too. Rob Lowe, shout out Rob Lowe in the crowd tonight. Yep. They showed him.

Then they showed Bateman. They started running out of celebrities. There were so many home runs. Yeah. I did not know, I did not know this because somebody sent it to me. Did you know that Rob Lowe is a, he grew up a diehard Cincinnati Reds fan? Is he from Ohio? Yeah.

I think I did know that. I think I did know that. So he, he was like, he was like taunting the Reds after the back to back home runs despite the fact, you know what? I'm going to give Rob Lowe a pass on. Did he have his MLB hat on? He did not. He was wearing a normal hat.

I photoshopped the Major League Baseball umpires logo onto it though. Nice. So pretty much. But yeah, if I was Rob Lowe in that situation, so if you're beating this shit out of the Reds, the team that you love growing up, I probably wouldn't be like demanding the camera, put me on.

No, I mean, the Reds are just, it's a nice story. We'll see, hey, listen, game two, you never know what's going to happen.

Because that is the beauty, going back to the three game format, the Reds win all the pressures back on the Dodgers. So you never know. Yeah. Like all these things could flip. Mems, I got a question for you.

You don't think so. Max doesn't think so. Max is shaking his head. Well, there's also, like, I think there's a stat that the team that wins the game one of the Wild Card series goes on the win 92% of the time. Oh, shit. Yeah. Probably because they're the better team and also they're at home and they're up one nothing. Yeah. Well, it's not always the home team.

And the Reds fucking suck. Mim, so I got a question for you regarding the Reds. Are you actively rooting against the Reds right now? Uh, yeah, this is a nice hate watch for me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So they got to be the sacrificial lamb. Were you happy that the Jets official Twitter account jinx the Yankees?

With the good luck? Yeah. Yeah. That's also a nice hate watch. I'm hate watching the entire playoffs. Hank, you seem skeptical when Mim said that he was rooting against the Reds. The Reds stole. the Mets spot.

But the Mets could have, the Mets stole their own spot. They played themselves out there. Also true. Also true. It's not like the Reds beat the Mets in a season ending series. But it does have to feel a little bit better watching the Dodgers just be insane and being like, the Mets wouldn't have won this series, like all in L.A. Yeah.

The Mets could have went on the road against anybody this year. There's no way they were winning this series in L.A. Yeah. We'll never know though You never know Guess we'll never know I like I think memes should get to hate watch

Whatever he wants Let him hate watch The fuck out of these playoffs No yeah I'm backing I'm defending him I'm like this is a good watch This is a good watch I'm okay yeah

Memes needs to get his hate out on something And anything Yeah Max is scared You guys are scared of the hate watch What We're scared of the hate watch What's scared to be on the The memes's bad side of a hate watch

I think I am on the bad side of a hate watch. Yeah. Yeah. We're all on the hate watch. Yeah. And hey, you're just lucky he's playing the Yankees. I know. He wants to hate watch both the Red Sox and the Yankees.

You're next up, buddy. Like, I'm the only one who's getting hate watched right now, but your guys are both going to be up. He's hate watching. He's rooting for the pods. Yeah, but I'm also rooting for Chicago, live in Chicago. But. Oh, that's out.

No, you're not. You're rooting for the podries. Oh, don't. What are you talking about? You want everyone in the office to be happy. You want everyone in the office to be happy and pumped about the Cubs. That's a great thing about sports. Hate watch the fuck out of these playoffs.

Yeah, if you're miserable, you want everybody else around you to be just as miserable as you are. I'm going to be honest. Everyone was rooting for the guardians in the cave. I wanted them to lose. So memes, what's your,

what's your perfect world series then? Would it be like Brewers versus Blue Jays? Mariners. I'm running for the Mariners. Okay. Seattle, good sports sound. Okay. I'll go Cubs or Brewers. Okay.

You don't mean that. You don't mean that. I know. He means brewers. That was just no mission. It's fine. I live by real. Cubs losing in seven would be.

That's the ultimate hate watch. It is. It is. I respect your hate watch. All right, two things before we get kick it to ourselves. And then like I said, we have Brandon Walker and Lane Kiff one is it Dylan Gabriel time yes I think it is right it's gonna be it's about to be yeah so it's sad but it's time do you think it might be a mistake to do the Dylan Gabriel time when they have to

fly to Europe and play against a Brian Flores defense uh Brian Flores is very happy that this is happening uh he's going to blitz the fuck out of him that traditionally works well in England and it's going to be a tough start for him. But the good news is the Vikings don't really have a great answer to quarterback right now. The Brown's defense is awesome too. Yeah. So it's going to be, I think it's going to be a winnable game for him. I don't think that either team is going to blow the other one out.

So I'd say, like in a weird way, it's almost less pressure doing it overseas than it would be doing it back at home. True, true. No one's going to watch. We're all going to watch. Yeah. It is going to be, this might be the lunder of the year. Yes, I'd agree. But it might be too obvious.

It might be like a 10 to 2 game. But it might be so obvious, I psyched myself out and take the over and then watch the 10 to 2 game and be like, why are you so stupid? Guess the over under. I'm going to guess. It can't be more than 40. 37 and a half. I was going to say, I was going to say 37 flat. it can't be over 40 sportsbook it's it's so 36 and a half oh wow we're both off it's lower than we both

thought so i love that though it's a challenge no that means our statistical model says we got to take the over by a point yeah but yeah we had 37 and 37 and a half um okay and the other thing I had was uh anyone want to take a shot Zach why don't you take a shot at uh explaining what's going on in the WMBA right now. I do not understand it, but I just saw a lot of tweets about it. Is it regarding the WMBA saying that the only reason Caitlin Clark is getting her advertisements

is because of the WMBA? Is that what we're talking about? I think it was Nafisa. Yeah, that was, I think there was a bold statement. Okay. By the WMBA. Okay. So there we go. A bold statement by the players or by the league? What was that?

Who made the bold statement? I think the league saying that the league is responsible for all of Caitlin Clark's brand deals is crazy. Right. Insane. Yeah. Agreed. I don't know if the league said it. I think it was Nefisa said it.

Nefisa. I retract that Nefisa. Wildseeing from Nefisa. I don't want to put that on the league. Wait, I thought Nefisa said that the league told her that. Oh. Okay. Go back, Zach.

This is some really good high level talk. This is where we get into Idiot Jazz. so it's the league through nefisa yes i believe nefisa was speaking to the league and complaining about the the young players and the pay scale and then the league said to nefisa you're lucky that you guys get those endorsements because we bring you those endorsements and then nefisa said the league said that and then everyone's like that was wild for the league to tell nefisa that oh so nefisa wasn't going after kately clark i don't think so Okay, so the league was going, was basically being like, you're like you and Caitlin Clark are lucky you have us.

All right. So I'm going to, I'm going to do the audience of favor by reading one article about this. Okay. All right. All right. I think I agree with everything Collier said. That's Nefisa. Okay.

Said Lexi Hall, the fever's alternate player rep for the WNBPA. WNBPA. Wait. We're at a really important time in the league and changes need to. to be made. And so you're seeing her talk about that and proud of her for making that statement today. We, PFT, read a, read a full article to yourself and then, well, memes ranks, uh, his hate watch teams. And then come back to us with, with the summary memes, hate watch teams who you're,

who you're rooting for, uh, to lose in the most sad, like, torturous fashion and then go down from there. Or, or you, yeah, or just which, where you want our teams to lose in the play. off and how yeah um all right so number one i'll go with fillies okay hate the Phillies would like uh i would like them to go nine innings each time get walked off each time we in the in the ds by the daughters oh okay okay walked off in nine in so sweep though yes we okay a walk off sweet that's impossible but continue Yankees number two Oh yeah, that is impossible

shit The first two games are at home Uh Yankees number two Okay I would like Austin to take them out tomorrow But it's like 10

10 to nothing That's our deal Keep going Um I'll throw a blue jays at three Oh Nice Canada boo

Okay Uh memes You walked into the office today and looked at Big Cat and said, let's go pods. Yeah, no, you... The trustry branched together. Yeah, we did come back together, but that's

a little preview for later, but you can throw the Cubs in there. Where do you want the Cubs to lose? You want us to also get walked off by the Dodgers? Game 7, World Series. Okay, to who? The Mariners? To the Mariners. Okay. What about the Red

Sox? I love my ring. It'll be fun. I don't hate the Red Sox that bad. We'll put them at five. Okay, but how do you want them to lose? To the Mariners? Yeah. Okay, okay.

Anyone else? Dodgers? I have a staff. I have it. Dodgers? Yeah, they get fucked. Okay. NLCS to the Cubs. Okay.

This is it great. This is it great. Someone needs to make the hate watch Penn. Mariners over Cubs parlayed with the Cubs over the Dodgers parlayed with the Dodgers on all walk-off home runs against the Phillies.

Yep. Which is impossible. Which is impossible. A very sweep of walk-off home runs over the Phillies would be so good for this program. No, yeah. What if it were... It's impossible. No, hold on, hold on.

What memes? No, we can workshop this memes. What if game one and two is the exact same catch robbing a home run walkoff. You like that. And then game three is a walkoff. Yeah. Game three is a walkoff. Exact same ball hit to the exact same spot.

And the Philly center fielder doesn't catch it. Bounces off his head. Yeah. So all three are exactly the same. This is, I hate that you, this is such bullshit that you're even like manifesting. into the world. I mean, fact or fiction,

that would be a great number for the show. Yeah, we're not manifesting. You're speaking it into existence right now. The hate watch. He wants a hate watch. All right, Max, if that exact scenario happens

in three games, I will give you $1 million. Cash. Okay. I'll match it. It has to be, the ball has to be hit the exact same place

three times in a row to end the game two of them catches over the wall one of them hitting a guy in the head and going over the wall no thing two million dollars cash if i have to imagine what if we get to what if we get to game three and it happened in game one and two and max is just rooting for it and it doesn't hit him in the head max you have to tell us right now do you accept it do you accept the two million dollars i do i do not accept the two million dollars okay five million $5. I'll take the five. You're a fucking moron for not accepting $2 million if you

I just got five. He just got five. He just got five. So how am I moron? Yeah, good job. I mean I still in that moment I still will be like I want this ball to be a home run for sure. What you mean? Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. If it got if it got to that third game and it was like you either get five million or the walk-off home run in my favor, I would take the walk-off home run. Although, listen, if this happens, this clip will just be, we'll just market ourselves as fortune tellers. And we'll make, it will pay for itself this clip, be more than $5 million. All right, PFT finishes off with the WNBA report.

All right. So, here's the news. I think I was right about that. So Nefisa Collier is the head of the WNBPA. That's the WNBA Players Association. She's the player rep. She met with the commissioner, Kathy Inglebert, called her negligent. Kathy Engelbert fired back at her, made some allusions to the fact that the young players,

instead of asking for more money, should be happy with the sponsorship deals that the league brings into them, to which Nefisa Collier, or apparently fee, as she's called, made that statement publicly known to the rest of her, to all the other player reps. And they all agreed with her, like, this lady Kathy Engelbert is full of shit. We got your back fee. Paige Bukers posted a story on Instagram that said Queen Fee. It was a picture of Nefisa Collier. And Elena Del Dunn posted on Instagram as well.

And she said, it's the care for the human part for me. I'm still not sure if Kathy knows I retired. Oh. So, yeah, they don't like, bottom line is they, hate Kathy. Kathy, you got to get out of town. EDD's my goat. EDD's great. Yeah. I'm a Peter Buker guy. I'm a P.B. guy. Yeah. Damn.

Okay. So we got some we got some tumultuous things happening. So yeah. I guess are we an anti-Cathy podcast? No, fuck Kathy. Fuck Kathy. Fuck her. She's a bitch. And the horse she rode in on. Yeah. I don't like her. Yeah. There we go, Zach. Hate her.

Hater. Zach, what are your thoughts regarding Kathy? Out on Kathy. If the WMBA wants to pay us a ton of money to say pro WNBA things, we will accept. Yeah, I'll switch up real quick. Yeah, real fast. Shout out of Kathy.

As of right. Exactly. Hey, Kathy, you hear that? Hear what Zach just did? That's a little preview of what we can do for you. Pay up. Mm-hmm. All right.

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bummer watching monday night football doubleheader yeah if you're going to have two bad games, I would like for one to be so bad that it turns good. Yeah. And it was just kind of two bad games that were bad. Yeah. We learned something last night. Okay. Joe Burrow might be the best athlete to ever play sports. Okay. Yeah. I was going to say like Joe Burrow for MVP, I've heard people say that. I think it goes past that. Yeah. So let's start with that game. The, the big takeaway from that game, well, there's two takeaways in my opinion. One is the Broncos needed that game. Bo Nix back on track. That was the Broncos offensive output that they were hoping for in the first three weeks. They looked sensational. Their defense looked awesome. Sean Payton got his first

100-yard rusher out in Denver. Yep. Yep. So it was like basically everything worked for the Broncos. It was a no doubter. And like I said, Bo Nix's like getting a little comfortable. Cortland Sutton's really fucking good. I mean, they have guys everywhere. I feel it's like the Broncos have a ton of team speed. Do they get, do they have guys at every level? They do. Think about all the levels they got. Offensive line, I'd say what's his name, Quinn Miners? Yep. That's a guy at that level. Yep. Yep. They got a guy at the receiver level. Maybe they might have two, because they've got a great blocking receiver too. What's that guy's name? A young guy through a great block. Anyways, he's great. Then they've got maybe two guys at the running back level. Yep. And they've got

Bo Nicks at the quarterback level. And then we can talk about their defense just being awesome. Their defense is awesome. Their defensive line gets after the passer. Their secondary is awesome. The Broncos, this was the game they needed. Yeah. And then on the other side, we got to figure out the Bengals situation. We cannot watch more primetime games with these Bengals. The Bengals right now in the last two games, they've had 22 drives on offense. 14 of those drives have ended in a punt, five of them in a turnover. So 19 out of 22 drives, their last two games, have been a turnover or a punt. That is so, so, so bad. And it is so, so depressing. And it's hard to watch T. Higgins and Jemar Chase be like, what are we doing?

And they can't get the ball out and they can't do anything. Here's a crazy stat. Did you know that the Bengals have been outscored 14 to 13 when they're on offense in the last two weeks? Because Isaiah Rogers. Because Isaiah Rogers had two, yeah, two returns for touchdowns. It's brutal to watch. Their offense is down 13 to 14 against opposing teams defenses over the last two weeks. Yeah.

It's very, very brutal to watch, and I don't, we have more Bengals primetime games coming up. We need Jamis so, so badly. It does feel like this was also like, I don't know, I was like, oh, yeah, the Bengals are 2 and O. Joe Burroughs hurt. Yeah, he's going to be out for a long time, but maybe they can tread water. I no longer think they can tread water. Oh, I think the rest of the team, it's not just Jake Browning. I think the entire team knows that we're fucked here.

And we can't come back from this. Hot seat, Zach Taylor? It's back. Maybe because the team didn't look like they were giving any effort at all last night. So I looked it up. Here's how bad the situation is Big Cat for the national TV audience. So this is why it impacts you at home. By the way, Troy Franklin, I think was the guy.

Troy Frank. Yeah, yeah, great blocker. National audience, you're going to be subjected to so much Bengals over the next month, month and a half. This impacts you at home, even if you're not a Bengals fan. This is a PSA. This is a PSA. Next two weeks, they've got the Lions and the Packers. That's going to be the 4.30 time slot, so the national game.

Okay. Then Thursday night football against the Steelers. Oh. Then they're going to have a Thanksgiving game, and then they go back to the national game, 430 against the Bills, then Sunday night football against the Dolphins. Oh, they have the Thanksgiving night game? This is going to tear families apart. We need James.

If you weren't in an argument with your uncle already on Thanksgiving, you will be in an argument with him by the time this game's over because everyone's going to be pissed off. And if you look at the quarterback situation there, they've got Jake Browning, Mike White, Brett Rippin, Sean Clifford. There is a common thread between all those guys that are cheap. Combined, they cost $2.1 million against the cap. James makes $3 million for, in theory, a third string quarterback. Mike Brown does not want to pay a backup backup quarterback, a third option quarterback, $3 million. Could we do a go-fund me? That's what I put out on Twitter last night.

Yeah. I think that we can do a go-fund me and at least maybe make up the difference between what their combined backups make and what he's going to have to pay James Winston if Mike Brown would be open to that. Yeah. Because it's a national emergency. And their offensive line obviously is bad. So it's going to be tough for any quarterback that plays in Cincinnati. but at least James is going to sling it at least he's going to throw it he's going to throw it and it's going to be fun and the problem is like jamar chase is checked out right now yeah rightfully

so it was i mean it it was frustrating watching the the there was a couple deep shots early that were missed and then just not being able to get the ball out uh it's it's really bad the broncos credit they did play they've got a great secondary and so whether it was riley moss or if it was or tan that was on Jamar Chase. It didn't look like there was a lot of separation going on across the board, but still, you got to, you got to at least make us want to watch these primetime games. Yeah, the Bengals, uh, yeah, and I, I agree. Like the Broncos, that was a statement when I know the Bengals are bad, but they needed that. And like, it feels like the Broncos are back on track, two and two. Uh, so in the last two games, the Bengals have lost by

25 points, plus points, had under 200 total yards, had under 60 rushing. yards, been outrushed by 100 plus yards, and taken three sacks. No other NFL team has done that combo in back-to-back games in the Super Bowl era, which it sounds like, oh, that's a lot of stuff you just listed, but still, it's basically a lot of stuff being like they're really, really bad, and there have been a lot of really, really bad teams, but they are historically bad in the last two games. Very, very bad. Very, very bad.

Bummer to watch. Other game, Jets Dolphins. Let's start with the Dolphins. Dolphins, I got to give credit to them. First of all, kind of liked their jerseys. Yeah. Like, I, I, they were, they were kind of in that realm of not real NFL jerseys, like 2K, a teenager came up with them in an alternate world, but I, I kind of liked them. Well, to hack for NFL teams, if you, if you have jerseys that you're sick of looking at, just make them look as much like the Steelers as possible.

Right. And then you'll be like, oh, maybe your defense is good now. Yeah, they kind of pop for a night game. And I will give the dolphins credit they are fighting for that I had them as my bad vibes team their vibes are okay because they they fought hard against the bills they beat the jets Tyree kill goes out he's going to be out for the year and maybe even longer he was maybe happy that was weird yeah I mean when I first saw it I was like yeah he does look like he's pumped to not be playing for the dolphins anymore yeah but then I thought more about it and he

dislocated his knee, tore everything, probably a lot of weird chemicals and emotions going through his brain at that time. That was actually him, I think, being a good teammate. Yeah. He was, like, trying to pump his boys up. Mike McDaniel, after the game, said that he, that Tyreeks said, like, go out there and get this win for me.

Which, if my knee got destroyed like that, I would, I would be like, fuck all you guys. Yeah. Yeah. The, uh, is Tyreek Hill a better football player with one leg than person? Yeah, probably right? it was funny I was I was noticing when he got hurt

you know when a guy gets really badly hurt in a primetime game and there's a lot of oh man I feel so bad for him oh that's so brutal it was more just damn that leg looked bad yeah that was kind of all it wasn't like oh man poor Tyree it was just that that was a nasty injury

I think statement of fact what I'm concerned about he needs to get back in time for the Olympics yeah because he's going to be a problem in flag football and it is a he is fun player to watch so it is a bummer in that respect uh but yeah the the dolphins they're fighting they were back on their swaggy shit too they had they had to do the behind the back right-handed pass yep too might be right-handed yeah that was my takeaway from that because that was a sick pass what why were we like can we just enjoy the because that happened and it was only a six-yard

gain everyone's like all that for a six-yard gain come on it's fun it's fun that was a cool play mike macdaino's got a little swag back he's he's emptying the he's going down with a fight it's it's you don't want to see teams quit in September, and the Dolphins haven't quit. There was a funny moment after the game. I've seen all the clips from pretty much any coach that wins in the NFL. Their locker room speech goes viral after the fact because they're all like really, really happy that they won an NFL game.

And then they showed Mike McDaniel last night after the game. He was like, I think in this room, it's a better feeling today than we've had this year before today, huh? And everybody was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, and they have the Panthers next, so watch out. Watch out for the dolphins, yeah. The dolphins get hot to two and three. The other side, the Jets.

Memes, that was a tough watch. It was tough watch. The game was pretty much over after the first drive. Yeah, Braylon Allen. You thought they were going to do man football the entire game, and then they just fumble and the game was over. I did. I was enthused watching that first drive up until Braylin Allen's fumble,

where I was like, oh, the Jets have figured out. They're just going to be a service academy. Yeah. And they're just going to run it down their throat. Yeah, and then the wheels just fell off from there. I think Orlovsky said at the time, like, I just wouldn't throw the ball if I was the Jets. I would keep doing that. And then the Jets proceeded to pass the ball in like three or the next four plays, and it didn't go well.

Yeah, they were averaging eight yards per carry in the first half. Mm-hmm. And Justin Field's stat line isn't that bad, but everyone who watched the game. No, he didn't play that bad. The worst thing he did was just a pre-snap penalties. And then it was just a million of them And it just killed him in the end And it felt like he didn't throw the ball

Until they were down a lot And not that it was garbage time Because they ended up losing only by six But that first half It was like they're not even going to try to throw No And I didn't understand that at all If your career is on the line

I don't know why you're just not Nonstop throwing it throw a million interceptions Who gives a fuck? I agree What Aaron Glenn or Justin Fields Justin Fields Justin Fields. Yeah, I mean, Garrett Wilson is awesome.

He should have gotten the first touchdown with the OBI. Then he got another one that was awesome. Breece Hall kind of put it perfectly. He said, team shoot themselves in the foot. Then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head. Yeah. I wonder if he's talking about the, there was a fair catch punt at the two-yard line. Rare to see.

It was exciting. It was exciting. Because it was one of those, did they just do that moments right afterwards? I can't believe that. It has to be a pretty bad fuck up around the goal. line to make Dan Rolovsky say, this guy has no idea where he's on the field. Yeah. Like that's new ground that we're breaking.

Memes, where, where are we at overall? Can I, can I share some of the, the things? I love your two-year plan. Memes has a two-year plan. Do you guys want to hear memes two-year plan? Yeah, it's a really good two-year plan. Am I saying the two-year plan or are you saying it? No, you say it's a two-year plan.

So the two-year plan going into last night's, game. If they won, which they didn't. Wait, your entire two-year long-term plan was based on the outcome of one game. That's the ultimate gateway game. Yeah, it was the ultimate gateway game. All right. But after last night's game, I don't think they're going to win a game. I think they're going to go. I think they're going to win a game. They're going to win a game. That team did not look like they could win a game. Okay. But this year, you're going to be picking top five, probably top three. Okay. Next year's schedule.

is insanely hard, so you're punting on next year. So you draft all defense next year. Wait, how do you know next year's schedule is going to be insanely hard? They have your next opponents for like the next three years. But you guys are going to, if you're as bad as you say that you're going to be, you're going to have a last place schedule. No, but you still have to play the NFC North and you, AFC West. Yeah, but you don't know who's going to be good. That's eight losses.

That's eight losses. That's eight losses. Okay. Okay, so continue with your two-year plan. So you draft all defense this year, then the next year you draft a quarterback. So every pick on defense. Every pick on defense. The defense is historically bad.

So if you're picking top three and let's just say, I don't know, Arch Manning, not Ars. No. No. Pass. Okay. Now if they fall to the second round, I just wouldn't waste another first round pick on a quarterback. Yeah. Okay.

So all defense this year, then all offense. But like you have the offensive line in place. You have Garrett Wilson. You need a wide receiver two and three. Yeah. Mason Taylor looked good last night. So also, by the way, what a flex for Jason Taylor to go to a football game in his gold jacket. Yeah.

That was a nice move. And people are just way too fast to try to find their next cold play moment. It was his wife. That's his wife. His wife was sitting on his lap. Right. But we're so, the internet is so hungry to ruin someone's life. They're like, oh my God, Jason Taylor.

All right, so two-year plan, all defense, then all offense, then win. Yeah, trade anybody worth anything. I feel bad for guys like Quintam Williams, been on the team forever, and they just can't figure it out. Yeah, the, would you trade, you would not trade Garrett Wilson. Would not trade Garrett Wilson? He's a stud. Would you trade Breece Hall? I don't want to, but I think you have to.

Okay. What about coach? I'm rooting for. Okay, that's a good answer. Good answer, good answer. So last week, last week you said you wanted him fired if you gave up 28 points to the bucks. Now you're rooting for him. Well, no, I've always been rooting for him.

No, that's the, they're just kids tweet. When you say I'm rooting for him, the parentheses is I want him fired, he's a joke. Yeah, and we have an irrational owner who's just will fire him at any point in time. That is true. You always have to be on the lookout for that. Okay. If you woke up tomorrow morning, Aaron Glenn was fired. What's your initial reaction? Disappointed. Okay. Because, like, he... So I saw a tweet today that Robert Sala's defense, his first year, was also historically bad.

Okay. So it does take time to get that figured out, but I just, I don't know. It's just been 15 years of shit. It would be, it would be absurd to fire him right now. It'd be absurd. Absurd. You can't even entertain that. those thoughts. You can't put that into the universe. I was on a text chain with memes last night. It got dark and rightfully so. Can I, can I

share one thing that made me chuckle a little, but it also like tells you exactly where Jets fans are? Trustry. Trustry is broken. I'm not going to say meme said it. I'm going to say someone else said it. We have a group chat. There was, it's literally called the trust tree. It is the trustee. And two

other Jeff fans that were here. All right. This was said, I'm not saying who said it, but it did make me chuck a little because it's like this is how NFL fans work. Someone said, I have one more rebuild in me, and then I'm just going to be a casual fan. And I was like, that's the most, like, that's the darkest thought being like, I'm giving you one more chance to rebuild this team, knowing full well that that's not going to happen.

You're going to still live and die with the Jets. Not going to say who said this, but I said that. It was very funny. I laughed because I was just like, like just being like, got one more, like you could do this one more time, Jets. You could rebuild one more time. Yeah, but by then, that'll be like year 18 of a playoff drought. Right. How many more rebuilds could you do? That's the thing about the NFL is right when you're sick of rebuilds, your owner will hire

some coach that'll make you insanely excited. Yeah. Yeah, but then the screenshots come out of every single past coach, just doing that same dumb face on the sideline being like, what did I sign up for? Yeah, yeah. I have a spin zone for you memes. I shared this on Wake Up Barstool, so I was looking at it last night. If the history of the entire planet, so Earth, was a 24-hour day, human beings didn't arrive on Earth. Human beings weren't human beings until, so it's 24 hours. Human beings weren't human beings until 11, 58, and 43 seconds.

do you understand that No but continue So all of earth I'm saying the whole history of earth Human beings have only been around For that small part A minute in whatever it is 17 seconds

The last very piece That's how long Earth has been around Your life if you live to 100 Is a fraction of a fraction Of a fraction of a fraction of a second In this 24 hour day It all doesn't matter dude It's like there's been so much shit

That's happened on planet Earth And there's going to be so much shit that happens. Who fucking cares. Think of how small we are. That's a good point, but... Yeah. We're nothing.

We're all nothing. We're all nothing. I know, but we're all nothing. I'm just trying to think big picture here. We're all nothing. Do you understand how small that is? A minute and set... Human being showed up a minute and 17 seconds left in the 24-hour day.

That's how much history has happened before that. It's crazy. That is crazy. It's wild. But the euphoria of winning a football. game. I agree. It's good. It's also hard to squeeze that many penalty flags into a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second. There's so many penalty flags. Yeah, it's all, it's all penalty. Yeah. And didn't, didn't your coach say, like, didn't he hire some refs this

off season? Yeah. He said, we're going to figure this out. Yeah. He said we're going to put a stop to this. I think he had refs at like every single practice because he said no more being the most penalized team. That stops now. Yeah. And there could be some residuals of not having a coach for however long. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't have a coach since week five. It's a lot of the same guys.

They probably should have cut or traded all the guys from that defense. Just you come from Dan Campbell, you got to flush the turds. That's his motto. Yeah, you got to flush the turrets. The guys on the team, they played an entire season basically without a coach, and then all of a sudden they have a coach now. That's got to be weird for them too. It's like, hey, I thought we were free-range football players.

Yeah. You let us just, I thought we were like, you know, cats that are left alone for the weekend where you just leave the food out. We just hang out. Yeah, it's the Montessori football. Right. And now all of a sudden we have to have a teacher that we call a teacher. Yeah. It's bullshit.

Yeah. You didn't tell us there are rules. We used to not have homework. Yeah. Class used to be outside. This is, yeah, it's Will Farrell and Stepbrothers being like this house is a prison. Yeah. You don't let me watch cops anymore.

What the fuck, Aaron, Glenn? Now, the other side of it, it was a terrible thing. It was. There was penalties they just weren't calling on the Dolphins. The late hit on Justin Fields in like, I think it was a third or fourth quarter, was egregious. It was like he slid and then someone just jumped on him. Yeah, there was one with, I think that was Jeremy Ruckert. Oh. They just, they jumped on him five seconds after.

And then there was a penalty on the Jets for a hold as Joe Tipman's helmet was getting ripped off like a clear hands of the face. Like you can't, like they lost the game. Yeah. But you can complain about the refs It was a terrible officiated game That offensive pass interference was dog shit That was bad

That happens every single play in the NFL Where are you at with Justin Fields Just let him just Just fuck it dude Who cares? Just fucking run around and throw it Like it's not gonna work But you just might as well make fun football I mean the run was fun

The run was fun If Justin Fields had James's brain It would be like the greatest watch of all time Where he just he has no Just let it fly Yeah right he just he just He just fucking grip it and rip it. Yeah.

Otherwise, like, you're going to be a career backup. Just let it fly. And not a bad backup to have. He's just not a starter, really. I would agree with that. Yeah. I think he'd be a great backup. Yeah.

I'd rather watch him than Tyra. Because, like, you can't, you can't really prepare for Justin Fields, the good stuff that he does. Yeah. Also, it's kind of bullshit that Darren just beat you guys, right? Like, that was, he had 12 games with the, with the Giants and scored one touchdown he had one game with the dolphins and scored two touchdowns he looked good yeah he did look good he did look good all right i'm sorry memes okay yeah i mean there's a little piece in knowing that it's just it is what it is right this season at least

yeah but this is like the easiest schedule they've ever had yeah you you will win some games let's find your win you're i mean i'm looking at it right way is that there schedule right there? Yeah. They have the Cowboys. That's a coin flip. Broncos probably lost. Panthers is a coin flip. Bangles is a coin flip. Browns is a coin flip. You can beat the Patriots.

They just got to get the penalties figured out. Yeah. Saints. Braylon Allen going out was also probably. You might, you guys might make the playoffs. I'm looking at the schedule. Stop, stop. Don't do that. Get hot. Don't do this. Don't do this. Don't do this.

They have to win a game. We finally got his expectations where they need to be Trying to bring him back No, I don't want him to get It sucks giving, I've been here before It sucks in September being like seasons already old It's a fucked up situation for memes Because best case scenario for him

Is actually now his worst case scenario Because I think your best case scenario Is you end with six wins, seven wins Very best case scenario, right? Yeah, that's best case scenario Worst case scenario is 017 Then you have to fire it right again But if you end with like seven wins

That's actually the worst case scenario Yeah Yeah Yeah So that's it's a bad place to be Hank you want to hop in here And pump up memes a little No they have no shot

I'm making playoffs I'm I'm You guys are being mean No or not We're trying to We're trying to pump them up a little I'm realistic I tell you

The playoff thing was wrong But I think they're gonna win some games I don't think they're not gonna Rebuild you don't want to win games No yeah I know But I do think they're not as bad All right fine They're gonna lose every game

That's good for the rebuild yeah All right I want to win a game Yeah, you're going to win a game I wish I could bet it right now It's probably terrible odds The Jets will absolutely win a game this year Flip it, put it out there

I'll get a tattoo if they don't win a game Jets are going to win a tattoo memes if they don't win a game Yeah All right DFT will you get a tattoo you match Yeah because they're going to get They're going to win four games Yeah

Four games I'm not going to say four but they will win a game Four All right any other cleanups stuff We're going to do a lot of college football talk with Brandon Walker, some really good narrative talk coming off of a big weekend of college football. Anything else that we missed on Sunday?

I would say watching back because we do record the show on Sundays during Sunday football, very weird clock management by the Packers. Yeah. That final drive. Really strange. Also, Dak Prescott looked great. Yeah.

You look really good. They somehow, is CD Lamb the problem? I don't know. CD Lamb was like George Pickens' biggest fan during the game. I know, I know. Good vibes on the sideline. Yeah, the Cowboys are in that camp of like very fun, fun watch. The Cowboys should be in every, like, Sunday or Sunday night football or Monday football game

because they don't play defense at a score. So we're going to talk about with Brandon Walker in a little bit, but I was thinking more about the Penn State game, Penn State Oregon. Would we be thinking completely differently about Penn State if their offense was great and their defense sucked? Yes. I think we would, right? it'd be like a completely because their defense

looking back on it their defense is good max right yeah but it's the same thing right that's the difference is that if the offense was really good and the defense was slacking you you can convince yourself being like oh we just got to get that defense back to where it was right when it's the same

exact thing as it always has been it's hard to get that hope if you have a bad if the Penn State had a bad defense you can reasonably tell yourself well the standard has always been a good defense will get back there. Yeah, exactly. With a bad offense, that's been the standard and what's going to change?

If you guys lost the game 40 to 47, you'd be like Penn State, we're right in the thick of it. I don't know. That's kind of what happened in the Big Ten championship, though, last year. So it's like... They might have broken through, though. But you also thought last year, like, yeah, we could do it. Hank's shaking his head. No way they broke through.

They should have won for two. They should have gone for two. They should have gone for two. There would have been at least a little finale. to it where it's like all right you lose going for two like man they were right there it's just a way that the interception went man if yeah if you lose going for two you james franklin he at least gets some credit for having some balls that throw i don't know how you make that throw there was no recipe to success for for that throw i i want to call my shot with drew aller right now okay you're

going to say that he's a bust insurance no no i think this man is going to have a chase daniel type career as a backup quarterback. Oh. I think this guy is grown in a lab to be a journeyman backup, very successful career, millionaire, top 0.001% of quarterback to ever play the game of football, but never be the guy's starter. But a great backup. But the only problem with that is...

Thinking more like Jake Fromm. The only problem with that, though, PFT, is he's going to get like a... Or Christian Ackinbur. A Christian Akeber, yeah. He's going to get like a real shot to... To start. Yeah, he will. But if he's really bad at that, start where?

In the NFL. No. I think draft scouts will, like, fall in love with the size. The Jets will take him in the second round. Hank, it is the traits. What the fuck. Max, that was mean. In the second round, it was mean.

It was mean. You would get excited for Drew Aller in the second week. You made your point when you said Christian Hakenberg. You didn't have to drive it home. Well, that's, that was my point. he's so think he's a Chris Hagerberg, good guy Yeah he's a he's a 6-5 quarterback who has a

A big arm The NFL will always give a guy like that a shot Yeah I guess he's bad They'll always give him a shot Yes this man is going to be a 15 year backup That one throw was good I was thinking about this Do you think the NFL quarterbacking would be better

If we made a rule where every college quarterback Has to play at least four years of college? football. That's a one position? Just quarterbacks. Where it's like we just got a, we want to make sure. We want to really make sure there's an exclusive club to be an NFL quarterback. It's 32 spots. We're not going to just let anyone in there.

Unless you went to Heisman. Because if he had gone last year, he would have gone. I like that, Hank. Heisman gets you out. You can unlock your potential. Heisman or national championship. You're free to go. Yeah. Everything else. I like that a lot. I still think the biggest problem with Penn State right now is they can't run the football. And like

this whole team is predicated on being able to run the football. And for some reason, Nick Singleton is, he's supposed to go down as one of the best running backs in Penn State history. And he's running for like two yards of carry this year when he's been so good his entire career. It makes no sense. He's got to get going for Penn State's offense to do anything. Yeah. What, uh, was that real the, the screenshot of the, of him snapchatting? Was that real?

I don't know. It's hard to know. I think everything is real Also respect his game Drew Aller Yeah It was hilarious Yeah I mean

If you're a big 10 If you're a power four quarterback On a big time campus Just like snapping a girl And be like Want to come over and suck me off I think that probably works He's a direct communicator

Yeah This is a guy that's in charge of the offense It was a question Simple question Yeah it's not like He's running the spread He was literally asking for consent Yeah right

Like do you want to come suck me off. I don't know. Again, we don't know if we don't know if that was him or not. No, we have no idea. No, we have no idea. And but if it, I'm saying more if there's a hypothetical, if that is how quarterbacks, all quarterbacks, not just Drew Allen, all quarterbacks in power four programs are acting. I have, the question is, is fair to just be like, hey, practice ends at five. Do you want to come suck me off? Who wants to sex my tumbo? Yeah, exactly. I also think that saying it might not be him because who says like practice ends at five. Yeah. That's like, a little on the nose to be like, yeah, I'm a quarterback.

Yeah, it's probably, most likely fake. My practice is over. And it's also, I'm always skeptical of one of these screenshots coming out right after a performance where everyone's mad at them because it feels like a pile on effect. Like, oh, I can get free, free publicity by making this up. So I'm going to say fake Snopes. Fake, but. Snopes, the thing that used to do the fake thing?

Yeah, but would be funny if true. If true, funny, well played. But PMT Snopes rules fake. So did you see the other news in college sports? I have one. Did you guys talk with Brandon about Dan Lanning being so happy for Josh Allen? Yes. No, not in those words.

Yeah. Dan Lanning is a fired up dude. Yeah, very. Very fired up. He's a fucking good coach. Very fired up. Very fired up. Really fired up.

Yeah. Incredibly fired up. Well, it's a big time win. Joll like Bill Cower. Yeah. Yeah, fired up. That guy grinds. Yes.

Big time. He snuffed out the competition. He did. Big time. I thought he did a great job. Like, their offense through eight balls that were fantastic. Mm-hmm. At least eight perfect balls.

But yeah, Dan Lennox is a great coach. They got a nose for the goal line. Yeah. What was the other thing you were saying? Just the update about the rules that they're going to put in place for NIL. Oh. In Congress. Okay.

So they're debating it right now, and some of the rules have leaked out a little bit. They're going to allow college football teams to wear sponsorship patches on the jerseys, which would be very interesting to see. What? Okay. I got one. I'm thinking about what Mack school will we pay for to have PMT on it. Can't say it. Or Toledo.

Toledo? Yeah. Central Michigan Stringle I think it has to be Toledo It has to probably be Toledo But that would rock Because I don't know how much that would go for

But we could probably I think probably like A million What were you going to say? Grambling State Tram stamp branding The bottom of the jersey I love that me

That's good man I love that What do you think Ames? Do you think about Georgia Allstate The general Mm-hmm

Yeah maybe just emoji of sirens yeah Miami should do Coke maybe maybe maybe Georgia's just a speed limit yeah actually Oregon

Dan Lanning sponsored by Coke yeah there was another rule that says that yeah the conference camp prohibits jersey patches in any sport

as long as they preserve roster spots blah blah blah blah blah blah there's another rule that says that if you get drafted in the NFL you can say actually no I'd rather

not play for that team. I'll go back to college. Oh, the Florio rule. So yeah, you can you can turn down a draft spot. I don't think it's, it hasn't been signed into law yet, but this is the bill that is currently making its way through Congress. I, I do think that will be used. I don't think it would be used in high profile, like, first round stuff. Right. I definitely think it would be used in like a late, like, because you know how there's the, if an agent tells a guy, hey, I think I put a like second, third round grade on you. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah. And they get picked in the last round of the draft, I could definitely see them saying, no, I'll go back to school. And there's some guys who, like, in the seventh who get drafted in the seventh round,

actually wish they didn't get drafted because they don't get to pick where they want to go. So if you get drafted, you're like, fuck it, I'll go back to school and make money. Right. The worst spot to get drafted is it's not Mr. Irrelevant because at least you get the parade and you get sponsorships and everyone talks about you. The guy before Mr. Irrelevant is the new Mr. Irrelevant. Yes, because he has to go to one training camp and can't pick where he wants to try out for the NFL. We should sponsor that's that draft selection.

Mr. Irrelevanter? Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, that's good. Okay, do we have anything else or should do hot seat, cool throne? Let's do some hot seat,

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Henry, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is, I mean, it's basically just all, it's a lot of people with the NBA Media Day was yesterday. Kauai had some weird answers. He got asked about, you know, the investigation. Everything was Steve Ballmer. Pablo Tori also came out with another updated podcast this week about more suspicious funds and like all these weird backdoor sponsorships where there's no deliverables. People were getting paid to do nothing. And Kauai's answer was just like, it's a conspiracy.

it never happened It's a clickbait conspiracy And credit to Ramona Shelbourne Because she just like Kept asking the follow up questions At one point she asked them What's one example of something That you did for the sponsorship

And he was just like I mean there's a lot of stuff But I'm not going to get into details Because it's a lot of conspiracies out there about it And she's like okay But like one thing that you did To earn the $49 million or whatever He's like you know

There's just a lot of people talking and they're going to get their clicks. I'm just here to play basketball. I think I need to use the word allegedly here, but he's allegedly very, very guilty of everything that Pablo Tori is accused. And I don't really blame Kauai. No. He wants to get paid money.

Yeah, I don't blame Balmer. And if somebody offers, listen, the Clippers have offered no-show jobs in the past to James Harden. Yeah. But this is, it's more undefed. unfair in terms of the competitive balance if your team isn't doing this. So Pablo's... It seems like they're going to cover... M.A's going to cover it up because I think there's a lot

of teams. Right. So Pablo's investigation is great and I believe all the work he's done but I also just keep having the feeling of I wish my owner did that. Yeah. Like I think most fans have that like it's not how could the Clippers do it? It's more like, hey, Jerry Reinsorff,

can you start paying people off the, you know, under the table? Yeah. And then the NBA can figure, you're right. NBA does feel like the clippers should i think i said this like when this first came out the the clippers are going about this the wrong way like balmer going and defending himself kawai saying clickbait what the clippers should do is just burn the whole fucking thing down just be like this team this team this team they all did it too just fucking take everyone down with you because they're not going to be able to suspend everyone right yep i also like the fact that both balmer and kawai linner are going

the, they actually conned me route. Yeah. Kauai's like, they owe me money. I'm the victim. I don't know. They're fraud. So, I, listen, they, I'm a victim just like anybody else in this case. What was the most shocking, oh, that guy's on that team now?

Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant? Yeah. I was to say Chris stops. Yeah. Didn't realize he was on the Hawks. Yeah. I forgot about that.

Also, Chris Paul, just looking. Like, Gilly? So old. Mm-hmm. Like, the most washed anyone's ever looked is Chris Paul. I think it's because he shaved his head. fully Yeah, that was a shocking one

Kevin Love Kevin Love on The Jazz Whoa That's weird He said they're gonna call him up Yeah Yeah, Edward Warriors sad

LeBron saying this may be his last Meetita Oh, of course Wow, Kevin Love on the jazz LeBoh's definitely starting another league You got a little gray ghoster tag in him Lebron's starting another league yeah okay

I mean the Saudi that's I was going to talk about on a cool throne but the EA sports sold for 55 billion dollars what happened there they sold for 55 billion dollars to who to the PIF and like Jared Jared Kushner company

yeah it's just buying that it's uh yeah Saudi Arabia now owns EA sports and 55 billion they're taking a private so they can do whatever they want with it let me hold a bill So now there's going to be, like, they are just completely sports washing everything. Yeah, they're doing an unbelievable job. They're trying to find every way to reach anyone under the age of 40 in America

and then make them think that Saudi Arabia is a cool place. Really cool guys. Chill people. Yeah. What, Hank? 55 billion. Yeah. Yeah, paid a premium.

Who is there, who owns EA sports? Who did own EA sports? I'm not sure. One guy who just made off with like 20 bill. I'm not sure who actually sold it. They've been a publicly traded company since 1990. But I don't know who the CEO was. The largest all-cash sponsored private investment in history.

Yeah, so they're taking it completely private. You're going to be off the stock market. That's crazy. And yeah, they just have enough money. And they're smart because they know that the fossil fuels that they sell that's not going to last forever. There's only so many dead dinosaurs that they can dig up. So they're trying to diversify all their funds. and make sure that they're going to be rich as fuck for the next 100 years,

as opposed to just the next 50 years. And there's not a lot that we can do about it. No. Because if they offer somebody... $5 billion to do a 30-minute stand-up set, they're going to do the 30-minute stand-up set. What? How much for a one-off pod?

We've already said we would do... We will do this pod just personally do this pod for $100 million. $100 million is my price for everything. We'll take it offline and we'll just do the pod. We'll just... We got that more than that. No, $100 million, I will do anything. You think we got to do more than that?

I will be a very... I'll be a very principled man when it comes to Saudi Arabia. I turned down some live money. $200 million? $300 million? Stop me. $55 billion? I think we could get at least a billy.

You'd think we get a billion for a bar in my take? I don't think so. But they want to. I mean, what the Kelsey brothers get? Like $200 million? I don't know. Okay. We'll hit us up, hit our line.

Although the Saudis might be mad at me. I just know. You fucked us. You fucked us. I just know that no matter how much money they paid me, at some point I would make a joke about a journalist. And then they'd be like, okay, well, now you have to, we got to cut your throat out. Yeah. But the money.

But the money. You always get a new throat. I mean, they could do, they could have their public beheading guy chop your pinky off. Done. Oh, that one 100 mil That's fair Pinky for 100 mil Okay, your cool turn

Also, Lonzo Ball said That was my cool tone Okay No, no, you can do it He just said he didn't know Cleveland had water Which relatable Very funny I like that

He didn't know it had water? Yeah, I think he means a lake But yeah Got it, okay Yeah, I think he knew they had water But he said he was walking around And he saw There's a big lake right there

Yeah I'm on his side on that I remember the first time when we went to Wisconsin, and we were, like, looking at the lake, and I was like, uh, you know, like, I saw the ocean. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, I saw the ocean. I drove through Cleveland once, and I, like, spent the night there driving from the East Coast to Chicago. And I, like, stayed on, like, a hotel on the lake, and I was like, this.

Cleveland's a lot nicer than people say. Like, it looks, it looks nice. Great lakes are great. Yeah. Yeah. They're great. Oh, far. Uh, my cool thrown is New York baseball teams, inexplicably keeping their main.

manager after bad year. Oh, why would happen? The Mets are sticking with their guy, Carlos Mendoza. Okay. Memes, not to pile on, but what did you think about Steve Cohen tweeting, like, sorry? It's fine. The thing I don't like is that graphic. Which one?

Thank you fans. Oh, that was the one. Yeah, yeah. Like, come on. You got to know your market. Like, the thank you fans is something that you can, you can. put out in like Kansas City or you know

Colorado and it's a bunch of fans cheering you can't do that for New Yorkers they're gonna they're gonna fucking freak out which rightfully so okay good job PFT Hank took two of mine yeah good good job Hank

so I'm just going to do my cool throne okay cool thrown is ice cream sure because Cincinnati is Grater's ice cream it came out with Cincinnati Chili Flank flavored ice cream. Nope. And I'm going to try to get them to send some soft serve.

Nope. We're not putting that in the machine. Yeah. No, we're not. I think, I think, not putting that in the machine. I think,

we're not putting that in the machine. If the Reds win the World Series, it goes into soft serve. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. And if they don't win the World Series, you got to put chili,

you got to boof chili. You have to make your own chili ice cream. You got to put it up your butt funnel. I got a butt funnel. Butt funnel chili. I got a butt funnel chili. I actually think, I think that chili might not be the worst thing to butt funnel.

I guess If you had to choose If you had to choose a food I think that chili is top three For what you'd have to butt funnel Yeah I mean I can see I can see where you're coming on that It'd be so hot

Yeah Well no I wouldn't have I wouldn't like heat it up before Oh chili What you're gonna eat You're gonna eat Chill's almost done

Cold chili It's almost done hang on Yeah No I think you heated up to 98.6 degrees Body temperature And the consistency of it It's like that mashed potatoes, no, probably that would get stuck. Heating it up to 98.6, that's hot.

That's body temperature. Yeah, but that would be hot. I think you would be hot to touch. No, I think you wouldn't even feel it. No, definitely not. What are you talking about? No, yeah, now that I'm thinking about it. 98.6 degrees, if you have a cup of water this, 98.6 degrees, that's hot water.

That would be the exact same sensation as, like, actually getting fucked in your body. Yes, that's a hot. Let's heat this up to skin temperature, so it feels nice. Yeah. Think about when it's 98 degrees. you're not like oh this is the perfect temperature yeah no i think uh like probably what upper 70s when you get in the ocean yeah a Caribbean ocean 98 degrees getting in the ocean it's like it's kind of hot yeah yeah all right but yeah i'm i'm excited about playoff baseball the reds they got a tough

task yeah yeah um all right my hot seat is uh rory rory's getting kind of dragged a little bit because of uh he had some comments about the fans and then Obviously, he was chirping the Bryson D. Chambot, that whole video that went out. Also, he tried to get a fan kicked out. The fan did use a slur. Where do you guys stand on Rory? Was he soft? Because it is a little bit, there was a lot of the fans were brutal.

The fans were bad. I feel like you can't, you can't be like the fans are bad, but also be screaming fuck off to the fans, right? Well, did they start? I mean, when they're going to, like, wife and personal shit. Agreed on that. I think you can be like fuck off and then also be like they were bad

I don't I don't think But then do you think there's anything to be said about him Like covering up Bryson's name And like no I think that's what we like Isn't it? I like it But I'm saying he also was like you guys were Went too far And then he's kind of gloating

Going too far I think that Bryson the Bryson thing is separate The Bryson was like chirping them before the tournament Being like I hope we play yada yada Yeah so him going up like that's brison took not shots but was like you know coming at him a little bit before the rider cup so it was like a fair

especially with the Piner's stuff it's like a fair I think that was just like he happened to be standing over and was like oh look at this okay I think that you can say fuck off to the victors go the spoils I think it's like yeah no but I agree with that 100% but he also was like very sanctimonious of like this is too everyone went too far you can fight did though you can fight fire with fire and you can fire back at

them with the same things that they hit you with but if someone hits you with a slur you can't go back at them right like the only thing that you can do is be like hey that guy's saying slurs yeah the wife was it an anti-irish slur no it was a anti uh it was a pro english cigarette slur got it yeah got it okay and yes so rory probably can't no

or he could and just be like i'm talking about yeah yeah like get i'm sick of all the cigarette smoke get all these cigarettes out of here i'm not the biggest rory fan but yeah I mean he does get to celebrate anything when he wants yeah he also had the best year of all time it's like tough to you know well Scotty

I would take I think I'd take Rory's year you would what Scotty won everything we're in the masters the players won a pebble what did Scotty win but he hit the career grand slam too

that's yeah that's anyone anyone in a way rider cup which like okay I don't really count the Ryder Cup is anything because we lost. Exhibition. I will say so my cool throne is, uh, or sorry, this is actually my, I have double hot seat. Uh, it's me and I need your help, Hank, because I did tweet out on Monday morning, it was hard

for me to hate the European team because I saw the clip of them in the bus when they were doing the, the song, nah, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, Europe's on fire. USA is terrified. Europe's on fire. USA is terrified They're so good a chance I love Tommy Fleetwood I don't think I have

It goes back to what we were saying on Sunday Like the European team feels like They're just like best friends And team USA never has that vibe And I don't know I just I can't hate them that much You know what sucked is the fact that we were We were favored going into this Rider Cup

I think it'd be way easier to be like It's always easy to root for the US If they're underdogs Yeah right With the US Yeah but it would be underdogs But it makes people root like we love an underdog story

if Europe and they probably should have been favored going to this Rider Cup if they were favored I think everybody would be way easier to get behind the U.S. guys even the ones you don't really like that much

They were just favored because everyone wants to bet on the U.S., right? No, it's home. Home. Yeah, it's really hard. It's really hard. Yeah. Except for U.S.

Yeah. Yeah. Europe's on fire. USA is terrified. Yeah. who wrote some fire USA is terrible Who wrote that song

Gubbles It's freed from desire by I'm ashamed to say that I did listen to it I mean it's just when that That song is a I mean it's like When you have an awesome song And everyone's partying and on a bus

And the vibes are the highest They could possibly be It's really hard Free from Desire by Gala Who gets the Rider Cup Do they share it? Do they pass it around? I don't know

They also do you see you get a day with it happy birthday to frankie frankie fleetwood that was awesome i did not see that the whole fucking team yeah singing happy birthday to him all right here here i'll come back with one thing they all live in america that that and we it's sepstraka that's not fair you have a southern accent yeah he's a georgia and i heard him talk i was just like this is crazy he's a georgia although i i like what his friend said about him because he he grew up saying he was 50% austrian 50% American. They're like, no, Sepp, no, you're a hundred percent Austrian and you're a hundred percent American. Yeah. I guess the name, the name, I can't even get back. I can't even

looks at the Sepp Strachan name. He even looks like an American. Yeah. It's a big boy. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I don't, I can't, do you, do you agree with me, Hank? Like, it's hard to hate the European team. Yeah. Who's hateable? I think, you can hate Rory. I, yeah, I don't like Rory. But at the rest of the team, it's like, I don't really have an opinion. And I love Tommy Fleetwood. I like a lot of those. And I like, and I like, Justin Rose. I like Hatton. Justin Rose walking in that putt was the most badass thing ever.

That was disgusting. Yeah, Hatton, Lowry, those guys are just... They're good... Yeah. Fuck. John Rom. John Rom. I like John Rom.

Damn it. Patrick, A.W. Recurring guest. It just feels like we're meant to hate these guys and it's like I don't, it's not, it's not like USA Canada when we play in like the Olympics and hockey where it's like I'm gonna fucking, I really, you know, feel some kind of way. I don't know. It's just...

I guess I got to find a way to get some hate up for the golf. Why don't they ever do Scramble in the Ryder Cup? That would be so sick. Because it would just be a birdie. Yeah, it already was. Kegan fucked up the course. Scramble would not be fun. Shane Bacon, I saw our friend Shane Bacon was doing his show CBS on golf, and he was,

he was like, that was the worst course set up ever. It was like the least exciting golf because everyone just got birdies. And everyone could hit every single shot. Yeah. Like they were spinning balls off the rough. shit like that, just crazy. So we fucked up. Zach, hot seat,

Coulterone. My hot seat this week is going, I'm going to have to put myself in the hot seat. This morning I may have committed like a cardinal co-worker sin by mistake. Oh boy. Which is not good. And I would like to apologize to a few people.

Microwave fish? I did not do that. That is also a sin. Nobody should microwave fish. But I got here around 8, 815 this morning. I was excited to start the day. I was like, we're going to have a good show. good day, uh, put my stuff down and go out, I'm like, all right, we'll get the ice cream

situation situated early, you know, we'll get everything flipped, all the cones stocked, and then immediately, as soon as I'm on the other side of the court, getting the machine down, uh, truck siren goes off across the building. And I instantly knew that it was one of the several alarms that I set on my phone. And like those people at desk trying to get early work done, trying to get dialed, and I couldn't have sprinted faster to the other side. They tried to be, they were outwardly understanding, but I know I just ruined many mornings. Wait, so it was at your desk. I left the phone here, and then I was the furthest you can be from this corner desk.

Your desk is, like, right by where a lot of people are working. Can we hear the phone alarm? I can play it. Also, what time was this? This was 8.15. Okay. So, like, the people working are just dialed in. There's not many people moving and shaking.

And everyone looks over because that's very clearly an alarm that you set to wake up in the morning. And it takes you 15 seconds to run over to turn it off. Maybe 25. I got short legs. But I did do the best I could. I felt so bad. It was. Yeah.

Yeah. It was terrible coworker move. Okay. Let's hear the alarm. I'm not sure if I'll be able to. All right, maybe I can. You just set it again for. Oh, set it for like 1101?

Yeah. Set it for, yeah. All right. Do your cool throne and just set it and forget it. for a minute from now. Zach, are you a set a new alarm every time guy? Or are you a use your old alarms that you already have? I'm a repurpose them.

I just hit the button every morning. So then you just have like a list and you hit the, you go down, you fly the list down all on. Don't forget people be mad at you. And then you got to turn them off when you wake up. Yeah, I've got, I think I have maybe 30 different times that are set for alarms right now. And so I just pick one that's close to what. whatever I need.

I have next day. I have just two. I just have an AM and a PM. If I ever, if I nap, I'll, I'll add a PM. That's,

that's it. Do you edit? Yeah, I edit it every morning. I edit it every night, but I just have two alarms. And I just, before I go to bed,

I change it the AM, and then whenever I am able to catch a nap, I'll use the PM. I don't trust one alarm. I always do like four or five. Really? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, just in case. And all my, I guess I'm also different, my kids will wake me up anyway. All my titles for alarms are like a little time capsule in the past. Look at me. Where I've got past memories. Memes, that was so many alarms.

Yeah, I got like the mics were off. You got to do it again. You got to do it again. It did scare me a little bit though. Yeah, look. I just have two alarms. Am and PM. Memes, that was like a thousand alarms. How many memes do you have more than this? I think I have like 40. He's got, memes had like a hundred. So it looks like I have one

every 15 minutes For the whole day Till Yeah no 11.38 p.m. is the final one That's crazy So you just What does that do?

I just always have Want to take an app You just set an alarm Yeah, I've got 36 36 different alarms And some I very clearly gave labels to Back in like 2012 Yeah

My most common one is just email Chestnut Because for some reason I needed the email male Joey Chestnut like a that's the 8 a.m. one and I think I need it oh there it is no that's brutal Zach that yeah I did that to people at their desk just morning and I feel terrible I wish I could be a one alarm guy I just in full transparency I'm not there yeah someday oh I just had an alarm go off right now I made a reminder for myself a few weeks ago give ceiling on commander's season

I think you guys asked me that Oh, okay Maybe on like the 9th of September And I said I'd answer you at the end of the month So give us the ceiling All right, so the ceiling on the commander's season I think at the best This team is going to be good enough

To lose In the second round of the playoffs That's the ceiling I think that's the ceiling this year So the ceiling is Is not the NFC championship. I don't think so. So you're worse this year than you were last year?

The final result of the season is going to be worse this year than it was last year. That can't it's one or the other because the ceiling last year was higher than the ceiling you just said. So it has to mean that you think that they're worse than they were last year. I think we're going to

be a better team by the end of the year. Then the ceiling would have to at least be the same. I think the ceiling is lose in the second round of playoffs. Then then you think that they're worse. But we get fucked by the refs. That.

We should have won. That doesn't. Yeah. No, it makes sense. That is worse. It has to be worse. If you think that's the ceiling, then it has to be worse. No.

I think we're going to be better football. There's a lot of ways. Then the ceiling is the same. The film's going to be better. Then the ceiling is the same. We're going to get fucked by the refs. Ceiling is the roof. So, officially not thinking soupy this year.

does everyone want to do ceilings let's do ceilings real quick if we beat the chargers this weekend sealing ceiling ceiling i'm happy to do sealing okay all right all right ceiling nfc divisional loss okay zack ceiling for the box i mean i think uh second round playoff loss oh i think it can be you got to be super yeah you got to be super bowl retract that you can say super bowl yeah we just jumped we just jumped over the nfccc championship game? No, they just won that. We got to go through some guys, and then we're there.

Yeah. Straight through them. Don't even mention them. Yeah, you are in the game with the Eagles. The Eagles obviously are Super Bowl ceiling, so you can say Super Bowl ceiling. Yeah. Max, Super Bowl. Yeah, Super Bowl.

Memes? Seven Seed. Seven Seat. Yeah, but the floor is dead last. Yeah. That's the floor. Okay. Oh, we should do floors next.

I would like to put Super Bowl appearance asterisk Depending on what happens Sunday night That's your ceiling I think we're going to shock the world this Sunday And then it's then anything's possible Okay But the asterisk if we get smoked then That'd be lucrative for you

I know I think wildcard I'm not scared to support my team In my second year quarterback who I believe in wild card loss is the bear's ceiling that would be an incredible that would be incredible season be fun yeah max floor oh the floor i don't want to think about the floor oh say the floor it's dark

you want we go floor first i think the floor is second round playoff loss okay that's what we're going to do okay that's what this team's going to do the same write it down right now commanders make the second round we might even we might even smoke the wild card team in the first round

Is that because Hank just kind of kind of bullied you into that saying that What With what Second year? Oh I thought he's talking

about Big Cat He was looking at both of us Well the thing about Hank is he's going to change his mind entirely in like four days That's fair point So it doesn't matter He was done with the season

After That's fair point Yeah Week one You literally said we're not going to go We have no chance Of winning eight games Because you lost week one

And I do the same thing, but you, you can't just pretend that, like, you've always just been confident. Yeah. No, but then you said that. You're like, when you, then your quarterback goes and has the best, you know, best rating out of all the quarterbacks in week, week three. And it's like, or week four. And yeah, anything's possible. Okay. Yeah.

You're a film guy. Floor, Zach. The graph guy. If we're talking floors are good. The graphs are really good. No injuries involved in floors. No injuries involved in floors. Okay.

I think, I think things can get dark quick for any team. So I think floor is like six wins Whoa Like I think it could happen to all Any of us at any time But if there are injuries Then you can just be like that's My prediction for the floor did not account

So you can't be held account for that Yeah I'll say wild card loss Okay That's the floor Floor memes Zero wins Max do you see this

Just pick him first Do you see the stat max That should be your ceiling And Schefter just put out Oh that was mean That was mean He just said that that should be your ceiling memes, picking first. Yeah, it's rude.

Max Schaefter just said through four games this season, the Eagles have been outgained by 327 yards, the fourth worst margin in the NFL. Whoa. Here's the thing about that. I don't give a fuck. What if you start losing, though, then you'll give a fuck. And the signs are there.

They're winning. Okay. Okay. Your floor? Floor, lowest of the low, worst case scenario, would probably be losing one of the games to the Jets. So you could hit your ceiling and your floor. Yeah.

It would be the first team ever. If you win the Super Bowl but lose to the Jets. Just make the Super Bowl. That's not the ceiling and floor. No, Hank would be the second person to ever do it because I could have potentially hit my ceiling in the floor at the same time a few weeks earlier. Yeah. Yeah.

My floor, I'm going to say four wins. Four wins would be the floor. I think the I think that would be a pretty big disaster That's a bad floor That's a but it's a it's that's a floor The floor That is a floor

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First of all, congratulations, huge win. What was the vibe? I saw some of your posts on Twitter. I love that you're active. The vibe after the game, because it did feel like I don't want to call it a break game but maybe you can say that like where it was like this is you guys have arrived before but this was a game that maybe had alluded you before and then you finally win it what was a vibe like after the game you know this may surprise you i didn't really have that vibe at all like a

breakthrough game you know um you know we had the georgia game here a year ago where i think georgia was two in the country and and won that game it's actually same same announcers so it's kind of you know mollie on the sideline afterwards interview and it kind of like brought that back to me. But it didn't, it felt like we just played like we, we should in a lot of areas, and we won. We were favored in the game. So it really didn't feel like this monumental win like that, you know, really at all. It felt like, hey, we were supposed to win. We felt good about a number of matchups in the game. And our players made a number of plays in those situations. And, you know, like the yardage was so lopsided.

you know i think over 220 yards difference in the game in the third downs and so outside of penalties and turnovers there was really kind of a lopsided game that way so it didn't have that feeling like you just win right at the end you know right with a field goal or you get a bunch of breaks that go your way and happen to win yeah yeah and then after the game i'm a big fan of your dog at least online juice is a very good boy um have you had a word with juice for tweeting out the picture of the hat that said Brian Kelly can't run the damn ball. I feel like Juice is putting rat poison out there. He's young.

You know, he's only like three. Yeah. So, you know, like you can't really mature tell you just mature. And he's not there yet. And in his defense, think about it. This dog's ego is so out of control. Think about it does the walk. You know, the champions walk before and there's whatever, 30,000 fans there

yelling his name, Juice, Juice. So I worry about our players and their egos, you know, know and everywhere that everybody knows them but they're walking through with a hundred other players he's the only dog yeah well know his name so that's all he knows like he's got to take pictures with a bunch of fans you know before the game and stuff he gets the tea sometimes so he really hasn't had really many humbling things in life yet to kind of grant him so um you know that that's why he does those things you know like right after the game i mean come on yeah that had to make you so mad when you saw that your dog tweeted that out

And you were like, come on, man. That's the last thing that I need. Please stop. I need about not running the ball, Brian Kelly. Come on. Is he in the doghouse? No, because that's the problem. There's too many people around here that don't discipline.

I try. And then everybody's like, oh, no, it's juice. He's just a dog, you know? So it kind of, it's an issue. You know, we've created a monster. Yeah. 21 years old and dog years, though. Maybe old knows no better.

Yeah, so, man, 21. They don't know anything. I didn't. That's for sure. That's a fact. I want to talk about your quarterback real quick. Trinidad. He's awesome.

And he came from Ferris State. Really cool story. When you're getting a guy from a transfer portal from Ferris State, what is that process like where you're like, hey, are there question marks? Can he play at this level? Because he obviously has proven that he can. But it's got to be a little weird getting a guy from a smaller school like that and stepping up to the SEC.

It's not like stepping up, you know, one level and then going to the SEC. It's fair estate to the SEC. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, I think I realized that like the first meeting we were in, we were in a quarterback meeting, you know, in the fridge has like water, Gatorades and everything. And he's like, do I need to pay for this?

Trinidad, it's good, man. You're like, you're going to get a lot of stuff here. You know, you're in the SEC on full scholarship. But I love that you just said it's a good story. I love this story. Think about how many Division II, Division III players there are out there, you know? And here's this kid, like, living the dream and making the most of it. You know, he gets the opportunity to come here.

Austin's doing really well playing, and Austin gets heard. And he comes in and she was the national player of the year last Saturday. And so, you know, he was going from playing in front of, you know, a thousand people. And so, you know, that's such a good story for all the kids striving out there, like, man, if I work hard, maybe I'll get my chance, you know, like playing in Division 2, you know, instead of like, no one's going to notice me. And here, here this guy is to motivate so many. So it's such a, it's such a great story. Like I said, here's a short little quarterback, a little Ole Miss, you know, you know, playing against Nussmeyer and the mighty LSU Tigers.

Yeah. What a story. Yeah. And was there a moment in training camp where you're like, okay, we made the right decision. This guy can, this guy can ball because I'm sure there was probably a small part of you that was like, we don't know. Like we, he's, we see that he's really good, but it is fair estate and this is a different level and was there that click moment we're like okay yeah no this is this is going to work out he

he can ball yeah he really did well in any scrimmage format like whenever we went in the stadium he just kind of lit it up you know some of people would kind of say man there's trinidad magic going on and so he really just made a bunch of plays kind of had a baker mayfieldish you know feel to him running around and keeping plays alive and it's crazy you know somebody in our offensive you know was joking they're like in our offensive staff and they're like you know Trinidad had more yards and he did one year ago like I think this week or something and they're like he was playing Roosevelt College right right it's nuts it is it's it's it's a wonderful like I said story for so many so many people to stay motivated whether you're

in a small high school small college whatever it is you never know yeah yeah was this week weird for you was it is it weird having like everybody across the country talk about your daughter and your daughter's boyfriend and then you have to answer questions to like journalists like 55 year old journalist being like hey tell me about your daughter and her boyfriend that seems feels like that would be a weird position just as a human being to be in yeah the first one a lot of them avoided it you know and i remember um the first one that asked me was like hey i know you've been getting this question all week and i'm like uh no you're the first one most have avoided this yeah that's football questions but um you know i i just i think it's great that i've been through

so much in my life ups downs and all that and haven't had just actually gone through it with the 60 um show and having to like recap all those things you know then you're like you get to a point where you're just like man things aren't really that big of a deal just embrace them go with it and i've now tried to learn to reserve judgment of a situation like things happening, oh, this is terrible, firing, you know, a breakup, a daughter dating a lineback around the other team, all those things that you might think are terrible. You don't know. They might end up being wonderful things. Right. So, you know, I got fired from USC. I thought my life was over, especially like watching that show and you're on the tarmac and everything.

And look, had that not happened out and never got a chance to go be with Nick Saban and learn all that and all those relationships and become a much better coach. So I just, just embraced it, ran with it, and Witt's a great kid, great family. So I look at it as like, hey, how blessed are you that, you know, they're in a good relationship with great people. Yeah. I like that. Be open to the universe.

Yeah. It's good advice. Is it everything? Is it a recruiting violation to talk to Witt? Um, I don't know. That's a good question. Good question. I don't mean to blow the whistle on each.

I was just curious. Yeah, after I was like, hey, you know, if you're not going to the NFL, that portal's coming open. but yeah no i i actually leading up to it i was like i i think lane kiffin's the perfect guy to to handle this because you you immediately took to twitter and we're having fun with it and it's like it's clear it's not bothering him everyone assumes the worse of it and they're like oh he's going to be so bothers like i think he's going to be fine and old miss was going to win this game did you did you feel a little bad that the tempo though did make him puke well it's

funny that you when you just said that about lane kivins maybe the one to handle this i was like you know what's that saying you know they always say god doesn't give you things you can't handle yeah probably i'm the one coach yeah to put that on the week of the game yeah and handle it yeah and the way you reacted i was like he's fine like he's joking about it openly i think you wouldn't joke about it openly if it was like a thing that shocked you i assumed you had known for a while that she was dating him and like i was like yeah he's handling it perfectly but but the but the but the puking that was a little mean shouldn't have done that type of tempo on them. Hey, man, we got to win the game, you know, and even though I embraced it and

he's a great kid and everything, we might have increased the tempo just a little bit, you know, like he plays in the first half, you know, see if we can get this guy to throw up, you know? Yeah. So how do you handle the week after? You guys have a season that's ramping up right now, but you're feeling pretty good about yourself. You give the guys any time off? We're grinding right now. We've got to get better. And that's just not coach speak, man. We turn the ball over, lost to turnover margin had a ton of penalties, you know, that kept that game closer than it would have been otherwise. So we're back to work.

We do have a buy. Then that next week we'll get on to Washington State. We're actually using these two days to work on Georgia, you know, so that we have some prep for that because that's the game after it. And, you know, I have these two advanced guys that are like the best football guys ever, and they are like the biggest fans of you guys. Oh, I love it. they got to come say hi man yes yeah fisher ray soyer jordan like the key oh okay

yeah's good all right so so we got a question for you guys uh because because i'm a w w love that love that so we when pft and i like travel the college games we oftentimes see like nflts and they'll they'll like be like hey we love listening to you and if you guys and you know football why the fuck do you listen to how stupid we sound talking about football are there are times when you're listening and you're like, God damn it, these guys are dumb? For me, I kind of like the secondary twist on it. And I like laughing.

I like it not as serious all the time. Yeah. I personally enjoy it. I think you guys know ball, though. You guys are ball-knowers. That's a red flag. They think that. Yeah.

Yeah, Lane, fire him. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's a great guy, low awareness. Yeah. I love. That's a eval. Fisher and Sawyer are great names for advanced scouts at Ole Miss. Yeah, that's perfect.

Yeah. And great pickleball players. They kind of do everything. Oh, hell yeah. You should come to a game. We'll play pickleball, staff baseball. We kind of do a lot around here. Can the stadium handle us and Mincy at the same time?

I don't think so. We'll get Nancy out. These two want to play Mincy and John Gruden, two on two, man. I love that. I love that. I'd be a good matchup. I would just like to see Mncy Run. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you, boys for listening. We appreciate it. Thank you. Still some time. Do you guys have any words for Brandon Walker? He's on today's show, too. We appreciate how big of a fan of the program he is.

He always seems to know a lot about what's going on inside. Who's that? That's the Mississippi guy? Yeah. Asked me how that game Saturday was in Neeland Stadium. No, that was at home. That was in Mississippi City. It was a great loss.

exactly did you see it yeah oh i see what you're saying i get it now yeah yeah there were a lot of there were a lot of tennessee fans i think there was yeah they were getting mad because faculty was selling the tickets the uh it is funny you got to watch out for those guys though seriously because we fill people's brains with some really dumb thoughts and you've got to just make sure like you maybe have to put them on like a snap count of like hey you can only listen to a couple hours this week because all of a sudden you're going to be getting they're going to be pitching you laterals, fake punt punts, just all kinds of crazy shit. Hey, PFT, I'm all about the lateral, man.

We need more laterals. Yeah, talk to them. I've been saying for like 10 years, the future of offense is the design downfield laterals. I mean, we do the hook and ladders that's been around for forever. But I mean, like, if you get a couple defenders running to make a tackle, you're going to have guys if they're in open channels to the side, you can hit them 10 yards, take off chunk plays.

Yep. So they have tried to sell me and Charlie Weiss are offensive coordinator. I didn't even know that you guys talked about this. And if they think about like in seven-on-seven tournaments and the ability to lateral and keep the ball live and the explosive plays created because everybody runs towards it and get out of, think of a new box a way of thinking and you'd be a much more explosive offense if you did it that way. And you would tire the defense even more because they'd have to chase you around.

Yeah. And what it also does, it makes the guy that if, if you, you throw it to a wide receiver, it makes him more likely to have a chunk play too because the other defenders are maybe a little hesitant to all swarm on that guy because they don't want to leave a guy. If you watch a lot of rugby, that's like the number one principle of offensive rugby, is to make the defenders make a commitment to one guy and then exploit the weakness. So in a few years when we're up for some head coaching jobs, yeah, we got you to come work for us. Yeah, absolutely. We'll say that you're the hot name. Um, coach, have you

thought about the fake punt punt what the fake punt punt punt yeah you talk okay so you you you line up like you're about to punt yeah and then you line up like you're about to punt and then you and then you snap it to a running back like you're going to fake it and then the running back pitches it back to the punter and then he punts okay all right hmm like fle flicker punch yes yes it's a fake punt punt. Hmm. Okay. Think about it.

We saw Ben Johnson over the weekend. He did the fake flea flicker where the running back kept it after faking the pitch. What about the fake fake flea flicker where he fakes the pitch, then fakes a run, then pitches it back. And then punts. Yep. Poach punt. Oh, like fourth down. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. These are all some, there's some pretty cutting edge ideas that we've got. I know you're a cutting edge guy. So just think about incorporating some of them. them i i hear you i i don't really punt normally but but if you do we do yeah yeah give them give them a different look make them kind of fuck them up a little bit again if there is a coach to listen to this and possibly do this you're talking to the right one exactly that exactly we can

ask some real football questions like what do you think about paul fine bomb running for senate hmm hmm that means i don't have to deal with them anymore yes or maybe deal with them a lot more I don't know. Yeah, but not like on the interviews where, you know, you're like interviewing with them and then he just freezes and doesn't say anything back. Yeah. Yeah.

He's out of your hair. I think Paul would be great for that. Okay. Yeah. You're endorsing him. So that's perfect. Mitch McConnell's been doing that for years. Yeah.

You'll freeze. Yeah. The freeze frame on him. What is your, you mentioned right there, not just coach speak when you got into little coach speak. What's the telltale sign of when you're in deep into coach speak and you're answering a question that you don't want to answer and you just hit them with the cliches what's your favorite cliche to go with um i don't do a lot of that if you follow me like so i i usually just say what it is

um i probably do that when it comes to injuries you know because that's that's more like protecting advantages competitive advantages so that's where i kind of go back to coach speak when they're like uh you know how's how's his ankle um you know and i'm like they're like well we play this week i'm like I really, I really hope he plays this week. Yeah. And I'd say that about everybody. Yeah, we're evaluating everything. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It looks like, it really looks like he might play this week. Yeah. We're taking it one day at a time. He's been very impressive with all his rehab activity. It's been a lot of time with the training staff. They're doing a great job.

Yeah. Or like my sixth year in the deep south here in Mississippi, I like, I start to like listen to these things they say down here. And they're actually way ahead of what you think. so on something like that we have this guy Tom Luke who's been here forever and I'll ask him a question you know go yeah we might could mm-hmm I'm like what what does that either yes or no no we might could and I'm like that's so stupid then after a while I'm like that's brilliant yeah you're really not saying anything that you're held accountable I could yeah you're just handing them or something

you get this done on Friday the day before the game yeah we might could yeah he's plausible deniability he can just be like i never said i was going to do it i said mike could yeah that is brilliant double maybe i might start doing mike could on people you do that on injury i'm going to start doing on injury hey is austin simmons playing this week yeah you can you can also just say that's hippa you're asking about you're asking me to commit a hippa violation yeah can't talk which that's against the long then they made the SEC rule and then like they have to like you have to say something so i think they got around that somehow yeah do do you do and joy living in the South? I do. I do. And that was something that maybe right at first I was a little

bit hesitant on compared to, you know, being in Boca coming from there and then, you know, the beach in California before that. And so I had to, took me some time to kind of open up to seeing things differently than what I thought they should look like in what I thought I wanted. And now I love it. I really do. It's awesome. The hard part for me would be, would be all the like fried food and fat and you look great you look awesome remember last time you came on and i said you look awesome and you're like what because you're like you're just commenting on my looks but you do look awesome yeah okay that's getting a little weird yeah no you look great nice work best shape of your life is kind of cooler when like the female you know you know what even

you look hot okay now i got really weird us fishing for a compliment from you yeah how do we look yeah you guys look you guys look okay okay pause yeah um you're right right about the fried food and so yes i i do think i'm you know i like to be different it's kind of been the story of my life i kind of like to go against the screen and be different so i'm like probably one of the only people ever that moves from like south florida california to mississippi and then loses a bunch of weight yeah like what's it you know like i remember being here like on a Sunday, like, hey, let's go work. I'm like, whoa, whoa, nobody works out on a Sunday.

It's the Lord's Day. No one's at gyms aren't open. And so, but they're like, oh, but the buffet line is, you know, let's go to brunch. Yeah. And then I noticed every meal was like dinner or supper, I think they say here, like lunches are like supper too. And so I just was like, okay, I got to go against the grain on this and just kind of get certain foods and buy into the South, but not.

into the food yeah yeah i got a very dumb question for you ready this is the dumbest question you probably will ever get as a coach you wear a visor have you ever thought about wearing the visor with the fake hair no i have not okay think about it that would be awesome if you just came out with like blonde hair it was a fake blonde hair you know the ones they sell at gas stations yeah would be kind of funny i think Doug peterson wore those yeah you're thinking about it right now i told you a dumb question in college we went back to like Tampa like out by st. Pete to like a the beach out there area and uh we were like we're going to go to like this 80s band you know like stormbringer was their name and uh we went to like the like dollar store and bought like

clothes you know like that would fit in down there it's kind of like the florida beaches like on that side over there and and i do remember we got like the wig deal you know i got the rat tail that you can pin on. Awesome. Think about it. Think about it. What if you did a rat tail for a game? That would be awesome. That would be intimidated. Like, oh, shit, it's a Lane Kippen Rattail game. What, uh, when did you, when did you realize you were a visor guy?

Because they don't make, visor guys are not, like, they're a different sect. You can't, not everyone could be a visor guy. When did you, when you were officially like, yeah, you know what, I am a visor guy. Well, when I grew up, I always, I was always like, and this made me, make a little more sense now i was like i want to be steve spurrier okay like when i watched him in his offenses and the visor and kind of the way he would throw jabs at other coaches and teams and stuff i was like steve spruyer is the man like that's what i want to be so that's where i started the visor thing and probably started some of the comments maybe of other other programs too yes yeah but i thought it was

awesome because i thought the players like loved it they're like we want to go play for steve spurier like he's got our back you know so that's really what steered me also away from coach speak too was just watching coach spurrier yeah yeah you talked earlier about nick savin and and your time that you spent with him at alabama have you thought about doing a similar thing at old miss like if a guy gets fired or a guy loses job whether it be college or NFL have you thought about incorporating some of what nick did for you for other coaches that might need to get back on the right path Oh, definitely. We've done that now a couple years here and had some coaches that, you know, maybe we're going to take a year off still on contract somewhere. And it came here. But we've had that happen a lot. Shoot, Joe Judge came here after the Giants. And now he's our quarterback coach, you know. And his son goes here. So we've got some good stories like that. Yeah. Yeah. So how often do you check the portal as a head coach? Like, do you do that, like, all the time?

Well, it's not open now. Yeah, but you never know. if you refresh like maybe one sneaks through yeah what if they accidentally opened it for like a day and you missed it yeah we have people on that okay so in the morning when it's open in the morning like the stock market you know like you get the update like every morning all right here's these 16 people that went in you know there's these two quarterbacks you need to go watch these guys you know like so yeah we get those updates a lot when when you're flipping a recruit and i think you just flipped one a couple days ago right cornerback can't comment on that okay okay okay

Okay, because I saw, coach speak. Okay, I allegedly, if you were to be flipping a cornerback, like how, how do you try to close that deal? How much of it is pro-O-Mis versus anti, let's say, hypothetically, a school that starts with a letter M? Yeah, okay, hypothetically, a school that, oh, keeps speaking Ohio State? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe. Right. So I would not talk about that school. I would not negatively recruit at all, not one bit because we get negative recruit a lot. And so I always tell them like, hey, shouldn't it be a red flag? If the school doesn't have enough to talk about themselves that they need a negative talk us, it should be a red flag to you. So I don't do anything no matter where you're committed any of that. And I just sell our program. And a lot of times they come to the town. They see the energy. They see the stuff. that we play in, and then our players sell it a lot. You know, and they talk to our players, and they realize, okay, you just don't win here.

You have a lot of fun doing it. And the coaches and players are really, really close here. I think that's what does it. That's smart. That's really smart. All right. I got one last question for you, coach. It's always great having you on.

We love having you on and being a recurring guest. So rowback question, R-H-O, B-A-C-com, promo code, take. 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rooback. dot com promo code take you posted after the game the quote from brian kelly during the week do you have a guy specifically that is just looking for bulletin board material for you or you actually seeing it and being like okay huh i'll i'll think about that i'll put that i'll file that away no we i get like on my desk like it just happens to be from last week like Tuesday

opponent news and then there's all like press conferences player interviews things they said and stuff like and so that was actually right there yeah that was and it actually made our bulletin board like on our screens during the week like

you know just to try to motivate guys when you know the other coach says oh we're going to keep this trophy here we're looking forward to it so you know I put it on the big screens for everybody to see I'd like to offer to you if you ever are in a week where the other, the opposing team doesn't really give you any bulletin board material. You can text me and we will give you bulletin board material. We'll trash you guys.

Yes, planted bulletin board material. Yeah. Just to be like, you know, talk up the opponent a little bit. Also, I wanted to say thank you for apologizing after the Kentucky game. Do you get in any trouble for that? No. Okay. Well, I appreciate the apology because I did back you guys and I appreciated that a lot.

Yeah. I just, I just look at things differently too. And then I feel like really bad on a serious note, like when we perform bad and I feel like, man, I didn't coach or manage a situation or something. I'm like, that's a lot of people you're affecting. Yeah. A lot of people's like day, week, everyone, all the fans that drove all the way here to see and everything. So I get really down on myself. I apologize.

Yeah. You know, like, you know, I should have done better today. And so, and then I spend all offseason trying to revenge that in my head of those games to make sure it doesn't happen again. Yeah. We've already had two opponents, Kentucky and LSU, that we screwed up last year. We were ahead of both those games, like the whole game. Should have totally won both those games and screwed it up and didn't. So it was nice to be able.

There's a lot of excitement to be able to play them the next year and be able to come out on the other side for your fans. Yeah. My last question, do you allow yourself to think about what the ceiling for this team is? Like, have you thought about what the ultimate goal is? Like, do you even say that or are you like, we got to win the next game? yeah i don't say any of that there's too many variables on that and you know people decide who go to the playoffs and all those things and and referees and all that i stay in the week in the opponent you know get to one and oh only during the biweek do we look ahead to try to like work on opponents

and stuff but everything is about um what we can control which is practicing and trying to play really well yeah well coach really really appreciate you giving us time uh best best of luck rest of the season we'll do this again and uh yeah make sure the juice you know maybe stays off twitter for a little bit maybe ban him for a little bit okay all right guys have an awesome thanks for having me all right you look great you look awesome you look hot really hot so hot thank you all right bye daddy lane kiffin was brought to you by campbells where the chunky mantry is a place where one can do and or get everything they crave from one spot eat delicious food watch football listen to their favorite sports podcasts you name it it's a place

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It fills in the cracks. And now, speaking of Chunky, here's Brandon Walker. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest because he complains all the time about not being on the show by himself. Never have. That's not true. Maybe a couple times. Continue the interrupt, please. He is our college football expert for at least a few more months.

That is an earned title, sir. For at least a few more months. He's also the winner of Dinger's Only. It is the one the only, Brandon F. Walker. Two-time Dinger's Only champion. Two-time Dinger's only champion. You know, Ball, congratulations. We should also say congratulations to Stephen Chee, who lost Dinger's only.

He's going to be pitching. And to Zach, who came in second place, which means he'll be catching. Yes. Quite a combo. Dinger's only, to my knowledge, the only competition in this entire company where the winner gets nothing. Zero. Absolutely nothing. Nothing.

You're the ding king. I'm the ding king. You're the ding king. So I didn't want, when Big Cat floated this idea to me, I initially told him no, because it sounded too mean. This is a lot. But we'd like to welcome in Ben Mence. Oh, yes. Come on, Mincey.

Yeah, well, we know he's not here on a Monday. That's a fair point. Listen, he's got, he's got weekend previews. you stuff today. Yeah. Last weekend. All right, Brandon, we are five weeks into the college football season. We are. Oh, Penn State. Yeah, we are. Should we start there? Penn State. Let's start with the Penn State discussion because we had a great Saturday. There was some awesome games. You, unfortunately, have gotten a lot of things wrong, which we'll address all of them. I've gotten a lot of things right. Clemson? I got that wrong. Alabama? What did I say about them? Dead.

You had a preseason top 10 You had a funeral for Alabama Yeah buried him That was more T-Bob than me No No Penn State

Penn State's not wrong yet Okay Okay All right but let's talk about Penn State State's fascinating right Let's talk about Penn State Because Penn State is in a weird spot Where they are a very good team

Every single year And James Franklin Can not win the big one He's like 0 in or like 2 in 700 Against the big one And Penn State States fans, it feels like a tipping point where they're like, hey, we want something new. Obviously, there's a lot of scary moments out there that you can look at being like, hey,

you don't really want to change because you could have a situation like Nebraska where you just kind of fall off a cliff of a cliff. Yeah. A Michigan before Harbaugh got there. Sure. When they went from Lloyd Carr and then they went Rich Rod and then Brady Hoke. Tennessee's been through it. Tennessee's Florida's going through it.

Florida's going through it. not everyone can do the Mark Rick to Kirby Smart train. Right. Where do you think Penn State should go from here? I think Penn State is absolutely on the, should stay on the same course. Nothing has fallen off. Nothing has, they haven't bottomed out, they haven't done anything wrong yet. I think Penn State is the most, everybody in college football is chasing their next opponent,

and they're trying to beat their next opponent and beat their schedule. Penn State is the number one team that's fighting a narrative right now. That is their biggest opponent. It is not Ohio State coming up a couple weeks. It is the narrative that not only James Franklin, but Drew Aller can't do it. Penn State can't do it. None of them can do it. And I think it is fascinating because if you look on the surface,

the other night would have been a huge win for Penn State. It would have gotten the monkey off their back. Instead, it just made the monkey much bigger, like a gorilla now. It's bigger than it has ever been and maybe ever will be. But at the end of the day, they lost to the number two team in double overtime. Well, they weren't the number two team at the time. They're number two now, but they lost to a very good team, a playoff team, in double overtime. The way the schedule set up, Ben State's still going to the playoff, like everything about

the first three quarters told me James Franklin can't do it, Drew Aller can't do it. And then the fourth quarter happened, right? So they're in this weird spot where the narrative about them is correct, but they also lost in double overtime after fighting back. So the narrative was correct for three quarters. Yeah, it was correct. But they also show the same game that we've watched a million times. They also showed some fight.

That was my question. Did Penn State on Saturday? Are we looking at this wrong? Did Penn State actually break through on Saturday? So we don't even realize it because, follow me, Max is looking at me like I'm crazy. The first three quarters was the exact same Penn State game we've watched every single time, no matter what, where it's just like, and I actually, there was a moment in that game, 17 to 10. Yeah. When Penn State had it on goal line.

And I was like, here comes the Penn State member of the game against Ohio State last year. They had first and goal, and they could not get in. I was like, here it comes. This is going to be the Penn State. They can't get it in. They ran a great play. I think it was a, I think it was some motion running back out. It was like a shovel pass.

Yeah. Like something a little bit different, score, go to overtime, they might have broken through a little bit. Like they didn't lose the exact same way. They lost in a big game, but they actually had some life and played some offense that we have not seen out of Penn State in these games. in the past. So they didn't break through, but I think they played well enough in the fourth quarter to convince themselves that they can break through. Okay, so you still think they can break through? I thought

it the other night. Again, they lost in double overtime. This is, the defense is elite. The running backs need to be better. The offensive line needs to be better. And Drew Allen needs to be better. They went out and invested all this money in receivers. Well, where the hell are they? In the fourth quarter, they found all these guys. What took you three quarters, I think, I don't know if it's a whiteout or I don't know if they're scared of the narrative or if they're convinced the narrative is correct. it took them three quarters and them seeing their own blood and realizing that they were about to die that they finally got up and started to fight.

I think that convinced them that the next time these two teams played next week, it's a pick-em game. I would take Oregon. That's fine. You can do that. But like Penn State is right there. This isn't a team that gets out classed when they play these big teams. It's a team that just doesn't do the things to win.

There are teams that get to this point. Indiana is a great example last year of a team that won 11 games, but both times they were on the field with an elite team. You saw the difference. Yeah. You don't see the difference with Penn State. They just haven't won them. They just haven't broken through.

James Franklin disagrees with the fact that there's a narrative out there. He says, if I look at the entire picture, I get the narrative, and it's not narrative. It's factual. It's the facts. I get it. So he knows the narrative is out there, but the narrative isn't a narrative because it's actual facts. It's not, what's the difference in like filmmaking, a narrative or a documentary? So what he just said was, I know what they're saying about me and what they're saying about me isn't

true, it's true. That's what he just said. It's more true. It's more true than we had ever thought or imagined. You guys are treating it as rumor. It is stone cold fact. Yeah, it is you look at the numbers and it is true. I cannot win the big one. The thing I don't like is that he said he didn't think about going for the risk and going for two to win the game. I think they should have. He didn't consider it. In regulation or in regulation? He should have at least considered it to say Consider it fine, but he had all the momentum in the world. And then they took a 24-17 lead in the overtime. Like, I think he played it correctly at that point.

And they got Oregon down to a fourth and three or fourth and four. It's at that point, if I've got my defense and 11,000 people behind me, yeah, I'm taking my chances with that. I think he played it correctly. It just, Oregon fought through it. Also, go ahead. I was going to say, if we look at the recent history, Ohio State had a loss a lot like this last year, right? And they bounced back from it. And they just went on a fuck you tour.

I don't know that we can say with any sort of conviction that Penn State can do so, because we've never seen them do that before. The only difference is Penn State's problem is they can't beat the best teams. Ohio State's problem is they can't beat Michigan. Michigan wasn't in the playoffs. Right. So it didn't matter. Like it's like, oh, we lost to Michigan. Well, guess what we don't have to play them again.

Ohio State can beat the top teams. They just couldn't, can't beat Michigan as of late. Yeah. Ohio State woke up that Sunday and looked in front of them and said, we have a playoff now. and we're not going to have to play the team that just beat us. For Penn State to get to where they need to go, they need to go through the teams blocking them. They have a lot of Michigan.

They have a lot of. Ohio State's Michigan and Oregon is now in Michigan. Oregon's of Michigan. But again, Boise State? Wait, was that a big one? No, that's not. Last year?

It wasn't. It's not fair that it wasn't, but it wasn't. Like, they were handed an easy road in the playoff and they took advantage of it. And the Notre Dame was the first one that was like, you can prove it here. And then they had Notre Dame and just in a fourth quarter, knelt it down again yeah yeah uh we should say by the way because the game obviously the narrative is the narrative and james franklin pointed out the narrative dante more is really fucking good really good and dan landing is an awesome coach he is an awesome coach but i i just want to point this one thing out

they had this gigantic win in october last year when they beat ohio state 31 30 and they propelled themselves to number one and when those two teams met in the playoffs one was ready and one was not oh they got stomped in the playoffs so i'm just i'm just saying now here's his narrative needs to become do this shit in the playoff. Well, he's also early in his narrative. He is. He is. Only, what, three, four years? But a couple years ago, they had multiple chances to beat Washington, and

they drop the ball, especially late in the season. That was basically a playoff game for it to get in the playoff. And he loses that one. So, like, he can do it now. Make sure we do it down the road. He could be the next narrative guy. At some point, he will, but right now. I think it helps James Franklin's case that the game was over. Dan Lannning called game. He said, game over. Yeah.

The throat slash on him. And then from that point on, that's when Penn State woke up. So it's like almost like Penn State was one and one on the afternoon. I'm not going to sit here and piss on your leg and tell you, I'm not going to tell you, I'm not going to tell you that Penn State. You do have bladder problem. I'm going to tell you that I'm not going to tell you that Penn State is this elite of the elite team and they've proven anything. But I do think fighting back says a lot about him. I agree.

What was the last time you got your prostate checked? Oh, man. Because you do have bladder problems. I don't have bladder problems. I pee a lot. I'm a big man. He's every sign of. Well, you should have a big bladder.

Yeah. So how many times a night are you getting up? Yeah, go ahead, Max. I just have one question from the game. Yeah, yeah. Max was there. I was there. I'm not going to be a guy to blame the refs,

but it is something to talk about the fumble. Sounds like he's about the flamethras. You're talking about the knee touching the blades of grass replay? I watched it 100 times. I still don't know if he was down or not. Grazed. So how do you overturn the call? I don't know.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. You're a big grazing guy. What do you think? that was mean what he just did but you have to answer the question he's short okay all right so that that's that game Oregon is really fucking good I I was so impressed with Dante Moore because that was his first real road start uh you know in this type of environment you know they obviously played Northwestern that doesn't really count uh it felt you know

as an Oregon duck because obviously he played a couple years ago but I was very impressed with Dante more I think he's a bona fide dude he was impressed And I tell you who else was impressive, the bodies they have on defense. Yes. Like the big thing about coming to this conference and going east and playing these big established teams that are going to run the football and play defense is physically you wouldn't expect a West Coast team to be ahead of the game. Physically, Oregon is just beautiful looking on defense. They've got these big huge defensive linemen that can all run. The linebackers, like they look like Ohio State looks on.

Yeah. And it's actually another game that happened on Saturday, USC Illinois. The whole narrative going to that game was USA finally beefed to me. up. Illinois kind of, I know it was a very close game, but Illinois kind of like manhandled them in the game too. Illinois kept them in the game too. Yeah, they did. Illinois should have won that game by multiple touchdowns. Great bounce back by Brett B. Lima in that team. He's an awesome coach. He's an awesome coach. You didn't expect them to be crappy two weeks in a row. And then for USC, that's another, that's a narrative enforcing thing. We can't go east and win these games and

they can't. I like this. We're doing narratives. All right. Here's the other narrative that happened on Saturday night. Curvy Smart's got an Alabama problem. I have no idea. how either. So a couple of things. One, that game, it was a great game. They played great games. I think it was the first time that Georgia lost at home. How long it had been? 2019. 2019. South Carolina. Will Must Jam. Wet. Wet as coach we've got. Yeah. He was always wet. You agree he was always wet. I'm not sure that I remember him always being wet, but yeah. We brought that up in Debo. In my mind, he's wet. He's the dampest coach that's ever existed. There's a lot of damp coaches. What about Sean Miller? I guess that's a basketball coach.

Everyone's wet and basketball. Yeah, yeah, that's totally different. I think this- Carol is a wet coach, too. He's a little wet. He's always been wet. Yeah, he's got spick from out of his mouth. Yeah, he's not a sloppy wet.

He's like slick back wet. Yeah, yeah. Like, Matt Riley's wet. Yeah, Will Mushchamp is a wet like, oh shit, I forgot my umbrella. I got caught in the rain at the bus stop. Like, there's not enough towels. There's not enough towels in this room to cover me. Were you just swimming in the ocean?

Why are you so wet? Kirby Smart, though, I actually do think he's got a little bit of the Ryan Day. Michigan issue where it's like, I don't know what happens, but in these games, they can beat everyone else. They can't beat Alabama. I thought, like, I'm used to Kirby Smart making the necessary adjustments, and maybe I shouldn't have been used to it because of what happened in the Tennessee game, where even though they won that game, Hypo finally broke through in the fact that his offense sustained four quarters against Kirby Smart. I don't understand what Kirby Smart was doing when they're down 24-21 and he doesn't kick a field goal. And then they're down 24-21 midfield.

with three minutes left, and he punts. And I know it was a long day. It was like, you know, fourth and ten or something, but still, they never got the ball back. It felt like his brain kind of froze up in those two critical moments. He changes everything about himself when he plays Alabama. A, his offensive coordinator kind of stinks. Bobo is just not aggressive. Yeah, it's a tough name to be a bad offensive quarterback.

When you talk about, when you talk about Kirby Smart, I talk about like a coach who's got a killer instinct. When he's playing these teams, he's better than, he's out there, he's grabbing players helmets, he's yelling at him, he's fiery. and the players go out there and play with their hair on fire. Against Alabama, the guy comes to the sideline, makes a mistake. He just grabs him by the low face mask and talks to him very gently, pats him on the butt. He changes his demeanor.

He changes everything. And I think it goes to his team. Remember that fourth quarter dropped that Georgia had, wide open touchdown guy drops it. Then on fourth and one, they don't go for the field goal. Their play call is a toss to a third string white running back. Pass on that, no. Then fourth and one, you've got a defensive back coming in

and diving onto the pile and one of the more stupid things you'll ever see. And so dumb. Alabama went 12 and 18 on third down. That is a lack of a killer instinct from a Georgia defense that absolutely destroys

and throttles everybody else when they have the chance. I have no idea why Georgia is going backwards when it comes to Alabama. They beat him in the national title game and that's the only time they beat them since Kirby's been there. I have no idea how you beat him

in that situation and then after that you go back to your old ways. First of all, I don't like the racial overtones there. This is the school that had... I'm just telling it right now. If I'm Georgia, I'm not throwing I'm not tossing to a white running back on third down. This is the school of Ladd-McConkys.

Brock Bowers. This is the school of Brock Bowers's. That's a tight end. Yeah, but you can make a fourth and one work with a white guy. Mike Allstott. This guy's not Mike Alstott. It was a toss. I know.

He's also a very skinny guy. But yeah, you make a good point. The drop pass, it's a different game entirely. Yeah. That was a touchdown pass. And like Dan said, you're down 24-21. I know you want to be aggressive and I know what you want to make a statement. Tie the game.

Not only tie the game. Not only tie the game. Tie the game because your defense actually did figure it out in the second half. They didn't score a point. Yeah. I came away from this game not thinking that Kirby Smart, it continues to be an Alabama problem form. I came away from this game saying Alabama played a hell of a game. Their quarterback, I feel like we watched their quarterback become a man.

Ty Simpson. Or very eyes. Ty Simpson had a great game. He plays on third down as well. Oh, my God. That was the most shocking thing because Kirby Smart, that Georgia defense should not be giving up those. play. Yeah. I also came away from this game thinking, like, I did not expect Georgia to blow him out ever. I thought that Alabama was going to compete because this is the exact game. If you put on the Alabama uniform, you can run into trouble if you're playing against Vanderbilt and you've got a bad coach. You can run into trouble if you're playing an inferior opponent and you've got a coach that might not be the guy long term. But if you're playing against Georgia, I think everybody on Alabama is going to get up for that game. I don't think that you're going to run into an effort problem. Not Vandy anymore. And actually will be the test, I think. I think if Alabama can beat Vandy like they step on their next.

Should have, should beat Vandy, even though Vandy is the best Vandy, it's probably ever been. That would be like, hey, Alabama's, you know, everything's fine. Because I've looked back at week one and I'm, I don't want to say, obviously Florida State, but like, looking back at it, it's like, that was a full season, full off season for Gus Mouson to get prepared. He is an Alabama beater. Do we maybe, do we maybe overreact? I don't think we, self-include. I don't think we did. get overreact because at that point you had a Kalinda board that went nine and four in his first year with a

playoff roster. He lost to the worst Oklahoma team in a decade. He lost to Vanderbilt. He lost games he shouldn't have lost. He lost to Michigan in the bowl game. And his first effort in a year where he needs to go forward really quickly, his first effort was a 31-17 loss to a team that went two and ten last year. And frankly, a team that lost in Virginia the other night. So I'm not sold that Florida State is great. I don't think we overreacted. I think that game might be a sign that the top of the SEC has come down to earth. If you look at Georgia and Tennessee, they were very even. Alabama and Georgia very even.

Alabama goes out against Florida State and gets beat. I think the SEC is very deep, but at the top, Alabama is nowhere near what they were. Georgia is nowhere near what they were. Texas, the jury is still out. But I think the top of the SEC has really regressed and come down to everybody else. Maybe Ole Miss. I don't think so. If we want to talk narratives, that's a game that Lane Kiffin always loses.

Ole Miss is a good football team. They're ranked number four. I think that's preposterous as the number four. And I think even Ole Miss fans, rational ones would agree. Like they beat an LSU team who got a lot of credit for beating Clemson. LSU hasn't been good since the Clemson game. And we did say Clemson was national title worthy. In the offseason, I was totally wrong about that.

I mean, I and a lot of people whiffed on Clemson. I thought Kay Clubnet was going to be good. Whatever. Clemson's trash. They're not good this year. And LSU just was not very good. If Ole has some games in the second half of this schedule, If they're number four team, if they're as good as they look, they're going to have to go to Oklahoma and win.

They're going to have to go to Georgia and compete. Like, there's a lot going forward. I don't know that there's an elite. I'll just say this. I think there's three teams in the Big Ten better than any team in the SEC right now. I think it's Penn State, Oregon, Ohio. I'd agree with that. And I think the SEC, as far as the top end elite playoff contenders, is down a step from where it was.

I'd agree with that. You would put Penn State in over anybody from the SEC. I absolutely would. Alabama, Georgia. Ole Miss, LSU, Texas. We've seen Alabama on the road twice. They won a three-point game at Georgia. They lost by two touchdowns at Florida State.

We've seen Georgia on the road. They came back and beat Tennessee, and they come home and they lose to an Alabama team that is probably fine, but I don't think they're great. It's weird because the top of the SEC, it feels like it has a lot of parity in it. SEC is remarkably deep. Yeah. I think team one to team like 10 has potential to be good.

Yeah. But like Oklahoma's number five. Oleis is number four. I don't think Oklahoma is the fifth best team in the country. country. I just don't. They beat an Auburn team that the refs handed them the victory and they beat a Michigan team who had a freshman quarterback and didn't, wasn't even

interested in winning that game. Yeah, do they take account injuries into the top 25? Well, I guess it's a bunch of different voters. The AP top 25 is one of the bigger disasters we've ever had. We got to fix that, right? I actually don't think we got to fix that. You like that it's bad? It's good for conversation. It's exactly what it's made for.

What is a list created for? A list is created for people to get upset about. To stir up. So if it was a perfect grouping of AP voters who always nailed it, it would be the most boring thing ever. We need bias. We need stupid people. We need that woman who's like, I'm not sharing my data in my formula. We need all of that because when you put a list on the internet, you get, you're the king

of list, you know. People go crazy for them. No, I like that it stirs up debate. And I am the king of being able to dispassionally just put out a list and step back and not get mad with somebody else makes a list. I looked at the AP top 25 yesterday and almost made a video. I'm like, what the fuck are these people? So the list is working.

It's working. They did the list on you. So what's the Brandon Walker top five? So I got Ohio State number one. I think they're a clear number one right now. I have Oregon number two. I put it out last night. Miami three.

I don't know who I have four. It's somebody. Oh, I got Alabama four because I just put them there. If they're going to go to Athens and win, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for a minute, even though I do still kind of have some doubts. And then number five, I believe I had. Hunter Day. No, I don't have no.

Oh, Texas. I got Texas. But we don't know. We don't know. There's so much we don't know still. But Texas, we're just kind of waiting on because they had the one game to start. They'd look bad. And now they've just been nursing themselves back to life.

Brent, also congratulations on a big loss for you on Saturday. You know. That was the best loss of the weekend. You said that with a very condescending tone. Is that? I don't like that. I'm going to defend you, Brain. I don't like it.

I'm going to defend you, Brayne. I don't like that was the biggest loss of the week. No. I mean, like the best. You know, as a commanders fan, and I've seen you go emotionally through these things where you rationalize losses to yourself over the last few years. So for you to come at me like this, it's crazy. What you got to do is you've got to wait for next week and then

obviously Tennessee loses next week and you're like, see, we beat them up too bad. That was one of the better losses in recent memory for us. Yes. A year ago, at this exact week, we were non-competitive and a 41-14 loss to Toledo. Toledo is a fine Mac team, but they are a Mac team. We shouldn't be non-competitive in a loss to them. Flash forward a year we're 4-0.

I thought Tennessee was going to kill us. If you looked at the rosters, if you looked at the lines of scrimmage, Tennessee was towering over us, and we just took it to him. Fluff Bothwell can run it. He's the past. We ran it down their throat for four quarters, and we had them. We had them down seven with two minutes left. They had fourth and five.

They ended up making the play. They beat us. They're a legit top 10 to 12 team. I am very happy with where we are. So your condescension was right. it was a great loss right you you like the words you don't like the tone i didn't like the tone but congratulations because i i was but you can't say that that's that's where we go well you can't congratulate you were happy you were happy with the loss i'm not i'm not okay with the loss i didn't i wasn't

happy with the loss but i'm able to look at the loss in the context of where we were and where we are is way better i think loser talk i think i gotta change that about you if you want to but but it takes it steps right it's we're climbing a ladder yeah you're still you're happy with a loss And you let him congratulate you. You can't go from flat-footed to being on top of a ladder. You have to climb. What if you just flip the switch? There's no switch to ladders.

No, but there's the ladders you can just stand on and they just take you up. That's an elevator. Yeah. Or a forklift. Yeah. We don't have a forklift in the SEC. Okay. What about maybe get an elevator?

There's not, I don't even know how many elevators in Octobah County, like six. Well, you don't have hotels. I don't know. You tell us. We have several hotels. Several. Oh, yeah. Several.

They, they settle that. At least seven. Right. We stayed at a not great hotel on Friday night. That was a bad hotel. That was a bad hotel. Yeah. You could tell right away. My wife is the sweetest, most easygoing thing in the world. She's like, this isn't great. No. And it was also like, I think you can tell it was weird because I was like, maybe this hotel isn't that bad because they had a pantry closet that was stacked. Yeah. Like everything. And a gym that looked good. Gym that looked good. Not a great hotel. When you step onto the elevator and the elevator sinks a little bit. Yep. And it's only three floors. Correct. That's always a bad sign. The elevator might made noise. every floor three floor elevator that takes about like 25 minutes to go one floor not a great sign brayne i got a question for you about the big ten about indiana look ahead crystal ball you're respecting them crystal ball what happens after this weekend are we still talking about indiana like they're a team that should be feared so what are the next three or four again you got indiana schedule up in front of you uh let's see what their next three so indiana indiana kills illinois

right and it's great it's fantastic they did something they didn't do last year they beat a rank team So after, obviously, Oregon, they got Michigan State, then UCLA, then Maryland, then Penn State. Okay, so they're cruising for a while. Maryland's a little sneaky. But listen, they are. There's nothing awe-inspiring about what Indiana did at Iowa on Saturday, but I guess you can kind of chalk that up because to no visit to Iowa is ever pretty. No, Iowa makes you play Iowa.

Yeah, I heard a nasty rumor about Brandon Walker this weekend on Saturday. I was having a nice brunch with your co-host, Mark Titus. Sure. And they did the tradition where they wave to the kids. kids. Do you not like that tradition? Oh, he hates it. I do not hate that tradition. Are you the only guy in the world? Don't bring me on the number one sports podcast in the world and ask me this question. This is crazy. Well, when Tice told me that I was like, that's insane that he hates it, but then I try to- I do not hate that tradition.

I try to think about why. Waving to sick kids is admirable. And it is a wonderful moment. And I, and I almost tear up. I get the tingle, as Dan says, when I see it. However, my experience with the Iowa fan base in my life has been a nasty bunch of jackals that called my wife and tried to get her fired that tried to get all my sponsors to drop me. Is she deserved to be fired? No, because she was married to me and I said, I can't believe. I'm just wondering. Because there could be a chance like, 2019. Sometimes you get it right. Like you took the wrong path, but you got it right.

Like maybe she was bad at her job. She deserved to be fired. 2019. I said, I can't believe we lost this game to Iowa. It's the slowest, the widest team in the Big 12. That was me. And they absolutely came at me and tried to ruin me and everything. After a victory. Iowa fans were nasty and terrible. So what Iowa fans do now is they have this wonderful, incredible tradition where they wave, and boy, do they make sure you know how great people they are for doing it.

That's my stance on it. When I heard that we're not a fan of the wave, I tried to put. I didn't say I wasn't a fan of the wave. This is crazy. He's got you in me in front of. I tried to put myself in your brain. Throw me a rope. I'm going to save you.

I'm going to save you. I'm going to save you. You're not saving me, aren't you? No, I'm going to sink myself. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to sink myself. racially when Rutgers did the drone thing none of the kids in Iowa

could see it you're in New Jersey correct yeah yeah that was it you know why Rutgers did that yeah to make themselves feel good at themselves I know it was a cool moment

but it's like no one no one can see it I know a lot of bad people in the Iowa fan base who try to make themselves feel good and look good because of their participation in the way it is a good

it's a very nice thing it's a very nice thing I almost tear up every time I see it's beautiful I thought your take I do zero I thought your take was going to be, if you want to make those kids happy, score some points. Yeah.

I could have gone that way. Instead, I probably made it worse for myself. Did you see the Rutgers won PFT? I did see that, yeah. Did you initially, I hate that my brain initially went there, but I was like, you're in New Jersey. You can't, you can't see that. Seven or eight states away.

Listen, I always tear up when I see drones. Also, it's a Friday night. All those sick kids probably in the bed. I guess they could have shown them the video of it. That's kind of cool. Now that I'm thinking, now that I'm talking it out, they could have shown them. I love aviation.

I think the six-year-old kid who's fighting for his life is like, what is a ruckers? Yeah, probably, probably. I think Indiana's good. I think Indiana is a very, they looks very solid so far. My doubts about them last year

were never about the team. It was about the fact that we just ignore the national media, everybody ignored the fact. That video, you got to stop with these videos. This is a little kid like, they're saving. They got that spot because of their schedule.

It's an amazing thing that they do. Jesus Christ, Max, stop. You're going to make me cry. It's fucking incredible. There's nothing I can do now for the rest of this. What I love is that's like fucking incredible. The players, I'm going to cry right now.

I carry you to a trivia championship, man. They put their hearts in it. I carried you to a championship and you do this to me? You got me in some sort of panic room over here right now, Brandon. I just, I just carried you to a champion. I got you to ring. I had a bad back. Brandon.

My teammates coach died. Brandon. Yeah. Notre Dame. I said to Notre Dame fans after week. you're in the exact same spot that you were last year. Yeah. There's and by exact same spot, Northern Illinois

that loss was two losses. It's a joke. You can't lose another one after that. They lost to two potentially most likely college football teams playoff teams in Texas A&M and Miami. Close games, both of them. I don't think A&M's a playoff team, but sure. Maybe. The SEC's chaos. The SEC

kind of is the Big 12 this year. Yeah. Where it's just like, we don't know. I think Notre Dame is going to go to the playoffs. I think they're going to, C.J. Carr is the real deal. I said that, I did that rant trying to reel Notre Dame fans back in because a lot of them were like seasons over. I think they're on the table. I think they're going to go to the playoff. Two things here. A, Notre Dame is absolutely going to the playoff. Yeah. Number two, they're not nearly as good a team as they were like. No, but they also are kind of figuring out because

Arkansas, I know that game got away and what Notre Dame did offensively was incredible. But the sneaky part is Arkansas's offense is really good. They shut them down. Yeah, they shut them down. They dominated Arkansas. They absolutely killed him. They're going to put it together over these next eight weeks as they have a schedule that nurses them back to health like they had last year. But they have a good offense. I love C.J. Carr.

I love the running back. I love the receiver. Great House. I love so much about Notre Dame. But at the end of the day, they're going to make the playoff and that defense is going to hold them back. Yeah. But they're going to playoff.

Their season is like. They're going to go 10 and two and they're going to the playoffs. There was doom and gloom. And it was like you're, this is just a groundhog's day of last. year. They also lost, this is why when they were 0-2 and still ranked, I didn't have a problem with that one, because they lost a one-point game on a missed extra point to Texas A&M

and with a bad call on the 4th and 11, and they lost a 3-point game on the road against Miami. I think Miami's very, very good. So, like, I have no problem with Notre Dame being ranked after they were 0-2, and I have no problem saying right now they're going to go 10 and 2 and go to playoff. When you're doing the official Brandon Walker rankings, do you rank them based on their resume

or do you rank them based on which team would beat other team? I base it on what I need to base it on in that moment. For some teams it's resume for some teams it's just how I feel about them. I like that. And there's no insight into your algorithm. Do you know what you got to say when people get mad about it? Yeah. You say my rankings remain fluid. That is what

They're always fluid. I'm not going to sit there and go into my logic or my process. Those are my rankings. Like Oklahoma technically right now, they have a win over Auburn. They have a win over Michigan. I don't think either of those teams are any good. Oklahoma's number five in the country. I think that's poppycock. I think they should be like

number 12. I think that's the first time Poppycock has ever been said on this. I've been trying to work poppycock into the rotation a lot lately. It didn't really land like you thought it did. You went, oh! Because it's ridiculous thing. No, it landed. Don't act like that. It didn't let me. It was a hard, it landed. It was a hard pee. Yeah. Poppycock landed. Is that what you say when you whip out your, your dick?

We actually in the middle of the night to take a little. No, no, Dan, that's like, bleep that. You just, let's bleep that. I don't want that. You were standing on the tarmac and waving me in and said, oh, wow. Hey. A lot of trouble there. I don't want what word he just said to be out there. You, you, you wave the plane in. And then, and brought it to a stop and you're like, oh, you didn't land. That's bullshit what you just did. There's nobody that stands on the runway that waves the plane in, you idiot. There's somebody up in air traffic control that guides them in.

There's nobody on the runway. They get run over by a plane. Let me, let me, they're on the tarmac then. No, they're not on the tarmac. Well, there's somebody out there doing this to plane. That's when the plane's taxiing after it's landing. So they've already landed and then they're taxing them in. Yeah.

But that Dan's still taxiing them in a man and tell them to park and then you do this. I did that for two years, buddy. I was on the tarmac. That's poppycock. That's hogwash. That's hogwash. We're working on hogwash and poppycock. Talk to me about the U.

Yeah, I think they're real good. They're another one that's like, we're going to find out a lot this weekend. We are. This is a very dangerous and scary spot for them. Alabama already went there and lost. And this is a team that everything's been going well so far. Everything's going great.

But it's not a team historically who has weathered the highs and lows of season or the slings and arrows of a season. Like they can get tripped up. I like them. I like their defense. line. I like Bain. I like their weapons they put together offensively. I love Carson Beck, but this is

terrifying to go to a desperate Florida State team. So I might be over leveraged in the U in my futures. I've got Carson Beck to win the Heisman trophy. And then I also took a flyer on Bain because it feels like there's nobody that separated themselves just yet at the quarterback position.

No, his quarterback's kind of been running in mud this season so far. It's not been very exciting. A great defensive lineman put up some numbers maybe. Possibly. I'd watch for a receiver or a running back to possibly break through too. Jeremiah Smith is lurking. All the receivers are running backs are lurking. If any running back can put up like a 230 or a 250, somebody's going to grab, go far. Speaking about Smith, the game against Washington this weekend. It felt like Ohio State was kind of stuck in mud.

They got stuck in a rock fight in the first half. Yeah. And then kind of, they were clearly the better physical team and they just kind of wore Washington down. They played with their food a little bit. I think that was almost intentional. Because it was saying, first road start and they're like hey let's not our defense their defense is awesome it's lights out it's lights out are they better than last year I can't say they're better than last year I could

if you wanted to look I'll say it Ohio State's better this year than last year but do you believe it no but I said it I can't make myself say it right now hold on let me try this Ohio State team is better than last year yeah there you go they that was that came out easy undefeated against Michigan so far Okay, I could say it easily.

I don't think I could make myself believe it. The team had two crazy hiccups where they lost the one-point game in Oregon and then did whatever they did against Michigan. That mental thing got them. But that was a historic. We'll never see a run like that in the playoff again where they beat four teams like that by double digits or three teams, whatever it was, four teams, right? Yeah.

I mean, they barely beat Texas and Texas might suck. Texas, this year? This year, yeah. I mean, that was again, that was easing into the pool, though. that offense, they were not, that offense they were running against Texas, they were just, they got the lead and they kind of just stayed in usual. Yeah, I think you're going to see Ohio State's offense start to take off. Like, you even saw it in that game. Because Sayans ready to take the next step. Right. And you saw in that game when they're like, oh, yeah, Jeremiah Smith. Let's do, let's do the Jeremiah. Let's do that play. Yeah. And they'll do that. Yeah. We need, we need to go and get six right here. It's really good too. We need to go and get six. Let's give it to Jeremiah. When Smith got the ball, it's like, oh, that guy's just way faster than everybody else on the field. They should do that more. Yeah. And they will. Yeah, I think they're easily the best team in the country right now.

I think their defense is outstanding. But I'm just not ready to say they're better than last year. Do you buy Bryce Underwood? I kind of do. I buy stock for the future. I don't buy him with Sharon Moore as his head coach. Oh. I think Sharon Moore is a very good head football coach.

Why? And he's just, you saw when we, to get Bryce running, they had to be coached by Biff. Yeah, Biff's the guy that said, hey, let's run him. We got this guy who's a one-of-a-kind unicorn. Why don't we use him? And meanwhile, every time Sharon Moore's at the controls, he's a pocket passer. That's absurd. I agree.

And he's also an 18-year-old kid or an 18-year-old freshman. His running game's going to be ahead of his passing game right now. Why are you making him process defenses? Let him use his athleticism. Yeah, I agree with all that. I'm buying stock in him, though. Oh, he's great. He's going to be great.

The stock has to be through the roof, though. Like, this is a five-star quarterback, number one quarterback in the country. It took like a minor dip at the start of the year. He's a He's a Heisman Trophy caliber quarterback in year two or three. Yeah. Can we talk openings? Yeah, we can talk openings. Can we talk about the Arkansas opening first?

Well, no, I was going to ask you what your favorite opening was. I love, are you looking for some sort of bodily pun here? I asked you a question. Arkansas is my favorite opening right now because. I was going to say vagina. It was clearly engineered. It was clearly engineered from Bobby Petrino just pulled a coup. Yeah, he did.

He fired all the defensive guys. And nobody's talking about it. Bobby Petrino, the guy who 10 years is. ago was in a neck brace with his face, got asphalt all over it, and he resigns in shame because he's been fucking somebody. And then he goes off and tries and has to do a new career. Two years ago, dumbass Sam Pittman says, hey, man, come on back to Arkansas. Help me get this thing in the right direction. And Bobby's like, oh, yes, sir, comes in and immediately starts making plans to take over. I guarantee you Bobby Petrino, if you ask him right now,

are you the interim coach at Arkansas? Are you the coach at Arkansas? He's going to say, I'm the coach at Arkansas. He fired three defensive assistants. Remember, he was an assistant three days ago. Yeah. And he's immediately firing assistants. He's an asshole. He fired an entire defensive staff.

What a fucking asshole. But we knew he was an asshole. It's a very funny move that he pulled off. And he pulled it off perfectly. He had maybe the, if you were to draw up a guy in a lab that you could engineer a coup from under, it's probably Sam Pittman. Yeah. Sam Pittman is the most oblivious to coups in the world.

Well, he also wanted to get fired. He like, wasn't there a story that he basically went to them and being like, hey, you want to just do this before the season started like you owe us a lot of money his agent was like you owe me a lot of money you owe sam pittman a lot of money let's just let's just do this now fired head coach in college football is the best job in the entire world yep by the way i would have said my favorite opening uh kevin spilling the chili it's great cold opening yeah i like i like the uh the back street boy's song on brooklyn 9 9 okay where they do i want it that way not familiar with that one it's a cold open let's say hypothetically bobby petrino is not

going to stick around. He's sticking around. He's going to, they'll have to kick him out. He's going to, he's already got, he's got his claws in there. There's a lot of money. He's white shrewing moving into Michael's office and painting the walls black already. Yeah, there's a lot, a lot of money. They win a couple games he's sticking around. Yeah, and I assume they probably

will. They're not, they got the quarterback. They got a decent roster. Yeah. Paints the walls, milky white, sticky, viscous. So let's say hypothetically he's not the coach though. Yeah. What are the guys that Arkansas is going to look at? Because they got a of money, the Walmart money, chicken money, the Jerry Jones

money, just saved a bunch of money on Michael Parsons. I think Rhett Lashley, SMU, SMU went to the playoff last year. He's an Arkansas guy, went to Arkansas, I think he played it at Arkansas. Like, Rhett Lashley is where it probably starts. G.J. Kenny from, I always get North Texas, Texas State confused. He's from Texas

State. They're going to look at guys all over in that footprint and everything. But Lashley is probably the number one guy. And they'll say, they'll say John Gruden, and they'll say all these big names, but I think Red Lash is probably the one they got circled. What about Florida? John Summerall, by the way, is another one.

Two Lane to the SEC. He's going from Tulane to the SEC, whether it's Kentucky, Arkansas, wherever it is. He's definitely got an SEC job next year. Florida is interesting, right? Florida, to me, should be Lane Kiffin.

They should do everything in their power to get Lane Kiffin. He's a national championship coach at a place that probably can't win a national title. They're very good, and I'm not taking a show. out at Ole Miss, but Florida is a place that can win a national title in the next three to five years. But Lane hasn't shown the desire to really get out of there.

So he might be settled in. I look at Drink at Missouri if I'm Florida. Ooh. I think Drink, Lane's getting the credit for what he's done at Ole Miss. Drink has done the exact same thing. He went 11 and 2 beat Ohio State football game a couple years ago. He just missed the playoff last year.

I think they were nine and three. I think they're a playoff team this year. Drink at Florida could be a menace. I know a lot of people say Jed Fish at Washington because he's got Florida I don't think he's won enough to do it. No. I would go Lane or drink. If I have my, my wishes at Florida, and I'm Scott Strickland in the AD, I would start

with Lane. If he says no, which I think he probably will, and then I'd go to drink. Did you bury Dabo? I have a buried Dabo. I have, I don't know what I've done with Dabo. I think that Dabo is trying to bury himself? No. Well, yeah, maybe.

But I saw that whole rant that he did where he's like, you guys are supposed. spoiled all this stuff. I don't know if he said spoiled. I get it between Barry Alvarez and Brian Kelly, everyone's saying spoiled these days. But pretty much like we've won. We're, we suck this year. We might go six and six. Would Davo get a premier job? I don't think he would. So can I go backwards again? Can I go backwards again? And when I say premiere, I'm saying a top of like Florida. Let's see Florida. Yeah. Florida. I just said drink. I just said Lane. If you're Florida and you fly into Greenville, South Carolina, and you have him meet you

in the private plane, and you say, Dabo, I'm willing to give you this job if you embrace a transfer portal, if you change what you're doing, if, I know that you've got a national championship coach in you, if you will meet these two things, transfer portal, NIL, and

fully embrace it and unlock the potential of Florida, I think he would be an incredible fit at somewhere like Florida. I don't think he would. He thrived in the last era of college football. If he just tweaked his recipe to cook with the ingredients that modern college football has, I think you can be that coach again.

Why, if you're Florida, keep in mind, the last couple of times they've put out a help wanted sign at Florida, they haven't exactly been beating the door down to come coach at the University of Florida. They got ULL's coach. They got Mississippi State's coach one time. They got Central Michigan's coach. They got McElwain. They got must champ.

Like, this isn't a job that people are beating down the door to get. What if, what if, Dabo, there's a little bit of, you could say like analogies here with Belichick in the fact that Belichick, by all intense purposes, wanted to, or by everything we've read, wanted to stay in the NFL, was went and did meetings, was like, it's my way or the highway, this is how I'm doing it, I've won the Super Bowls, this is how I do it, I'm not going to change, I'm going to be the same guy, had to go to college football. What about Davos-Sweeney coaching the Miami Dolphins? That would be so fucking funny.

He would pass. He would hate that. I don't want that raw, raw shit in the NFL, man. I don't want that running out. What if every college he was like, no, dude, you won't do the transfer roll. He's like, you know what? I'm going to the fucking out. You know, I know he's not modernizing his game, but he is the most college football guy.

Oh, yeah. By four. I could never see him in the NFL. But that would be awesome. He's like a small town warlord, and he controls everything. He's great when he does it. But, yeah, you go to the, he would retire before Nick Saban retired at Miami. If you're the Florida AD and you're sitting there, or even Arkansas ID or Oklahoma State AD,

and you're sitting there talking to Davo and you say and Davo convinces you he says listen I know why I went wrong at Clemson the game changed I didn't change with it I thought I could keep doing what I was doing at Florida I'm gonna be

I'm gonna be Mr. Transfer Portal I'm gonna be Mr. NIL don't you give him a shot I mean I actually think Oklahoma State should I just don't think he'll change I think that's like the perfect school but that's not a premier job but it's content him changing

his contention on him him taking a job is contention on him changing If he sits down with ADs and says, I'm not going to change, they're not going to hire him. Well, I also think he might say he's going to change, but he's not going to change. Well, then that's a different story entirely. And I think that's a very good part. Why wouldn't he have changed?

He's the biggest bullshit artist in the world. You think he can't sit with somebody and convince him he's going to change? I don't think he'd even say that, though. I think he's so on record being like. He's going to have to sit back and realize there's a reason this thing went wrong. He's trying to recruit from high school and develop. Well, the problem is if you recruit from high school and develop, and the players don't turn into something, you're stuck with bad players, you're stuck with

disappointing players. If you don't have a coaching staff that he used to have with Brent Venables that can develop the players, you better go out and get finished products right now like Miami's doing, like Ole Miss is doing, and he won't do it. Should LSU panic? Yeah, LSU should panic. LSU's got the wrong coach. They got a bad offense. LSU had the wrong coach the whole time.

No matter, they beat Clemson and everybody put them up to the top five, including myself. I'm like, wow, what an impressive road win. Clemson's falling apart. They're one in three. LSU hasn't looked good since. Brian Kelly does not fit LSU football. You did not see the very last run play of the game. What very last, by the way, at the end of that game, I was an absolute hell. That was three weeks ago. I'm talking about the last run play with Brian Kelly.

Oh, when he answered the ball. We ran the ball pretty good, yeah. I don't know, man. I just think Brian Kelly doesn't fit. And no matter what happens, if he wins the next six games, as soon as he loses the seventh, the fan base is going to turn on him because they don't like him. They pretend to like him when he's winning, when things are okay. They don't like him.

And I don't think he likes them. I don't think anyone likes him. No, he's not a likable guy. No, he's the most unlikable guy that there is. And you guys, no, you guys have been there. Like, LSU thrives on who its coach is. Yeah. They thrive on him being one of us or us or rallying behind him.

Yeah. And they don't like this motherfucker. You can be a fucking idiot and they'll love you. Yeah, correct. Less Miles. He won in spite of himself so much and they loved him. Because they're going to take care of the recruiting. They're going, every five star in Louisiana is raised to be an LSU Tiger.

Every four star is raised to be an LSU Tiger. As long as you don't actively fuck it up, you're going to be fine. And I just don't think he is. Yeah. All right. Good talk, Brandon. I got a couple questions. Actually, have you, this is.

I can't tell if you're ending the interview. I'm not. I'm not. I got a question kind of out of left field. Have you looked at Washington State schedule? No, I know they play bizarrely at Ole Miss in a couple of weeks? It's like the most chaotic college football schedule that I've ever seen. Can y'all just never ask me about Oregon State and Washington State because it makes me sad?

It is sad. It makes me sad. There's two places that should be okay in football and should be. Some conference should have thrown them a life raft and said, come on over here. We know that it went wrong for you guys, but come on over here. I don't like them floating in the, yeah, but who knows? They're going to link up. It's weird.

They're playing against Ole Miss. They're going on the road to Mississippi. They're playing at Virginia. they play Oregon State twice. Yeah. They've got two games against Oregon State. They should do it like aggregate score. Yeah.

Like in the EPL. It's so weird that we're just marching on in college football without those two programs. Those programs are just doing weird shit, like playing twice. They exist in a, they're technically playing college football, but they're not playing the same game.

Isn't there going to be a new pack 12 with the Mountain West? It's coming. It's coming. But once you, once the toothpaste is out of the tube, how do you put it back in? Oh, I agree. it's it's fucked up and so many of these schools that they're planning is I feel bad

for their staff and they're going to be 10 years behind nobody wants to go play Washington State currently they're going to be 10 years behind everybody else All right I got one last question for you Brandon because it's kind of off of this conversation Roeback question RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q Zips, Polos, hoodies, joggers shorts, rowback.com promo code take

we are in year two of the 12 team playoff. I think it's working I think it's absolutely working I liked it like and I know there will be people like there's a lot of things that have changed about college football. I am very nostalgic about college football 20 years ago. Yeah. Washington State, Oregon State being that I missed the PAC 12. There's a lot of shit that's happened that I don't agree with.

There's probably more shit coming that it's going to suck. I like the fact that we saw Penn State and Oregon like go at each other and it's not the end of Penn State. I like that Notre Dame is going to get another chance to be back in this thing. I love a world where we see Penn State lose that game and 10 years ago. that would have been crushing it would have been over and it's september 27th and all the hope is sucked out of the building well now they don't have i mean they're they're kind of allergic to hope right now because every time they get to a big game but yeah they're going to have a second chance to put this thing back together and get back in it ohio state last year had one of the most embarrassing

losses we've ever seen and then lost an incredible run through the playoff it was awesome i love the fact that these elite teams really every team uh has a chance to to write the ship after something goes horribly wrong. I think the playoff is great. I think 16 is going to be the perfect number. 12's okay. But last year, the one thing we got to fix is last year we had a couple teams get in there just because they're schedule. Yeah. And if we can tweak that and figure that out down the road and truly get the 12 best teams at the end of the season, that'd be great. I love the 12 team. The big complaint that I've seen is that it gives Ohio season better, by the way. Right. I do too. I do too. Because you have these big weekends and you get into

November where it's like a two-loss team playing a two-lossed team. That game wouldn't have mattered at all. Now it could be everything. You get more games that feel like they matter going up leading up to the playoffs. The one complaint that I understand is you will have the same four or five teams win the national championship every year because you give a team like Ohio State a second shot, a third shot last year. But we had that anyway. What's the difference? We had that anyway. It turns out the elite teams are going to win the championship. Correct. And that's how it's going to happen. But now you're never going to get the parody that you have in the NFL and college football

and the fact that there's never going to be a team that starts in the 50s and is like, oh, they won a title. But that's just how it is. That's how it's always been. It's how it's always going to be. In November 2014, I'm taking a random year. It was the first year of the playoff. Probably had six huge games. In November of last year, probably 25. Yeah. And this year, it's more wide open. I think we'll probably have 30 huge games. And getting to the playoff is going to be for a lot of these schools like winning a national title. Like, if Wisconsin ever gets to the playoff, I'm like, that was the coolest thing

Yeah, I think Indiana, like last year, that's such a great story, Indiana making the playoff. Ole Miss is a good example. They're number four. And if Ole Miss makes the playoff, that's a huge fucking thing for them. Yeah. This is, it's okay. There's more seats at the table. There's more chances for everybody to come away and happy.

And it's, you whittal, I'm glad, who was the best team in college football last year? Ohio State. I'm glad their season wasn't over when they lost them. But not as good as Ohio State this year. Don't think so. They were the best team. They won the national title. And if people want to bemoan that, sorry.

They were the best team. They do just need to get more games at home stadiums. The second round should also be. You think it should go? Yes. I think it just strips it so much when you play those, like, was it Boise and Penn State playing in Arizona? Yeah.

Yeah, but here's the thing. Did we have any good games on campus last year? No, right? None of them were good. Yeah, well, that was the first round. The first round's going to be tough. Wasn't Boise at Boise? No, Boise was in the, they had the buy.

They had the buy. Boise at the buy. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's, I do think it should. be two rounds at campus because there's nothing the one thing that college football has that will always beat the NFL is the home environment on a Saturday. So the home games last year were SMU at Penn State. Yep. Clemson at Texas. Yep. Indiana at Notre Dame. Yep. Which is incredible like seeing and Ohio State and Tennessee. Ohio State and Tennessee. And that was

a cool scene too. That was very cool scene. None of the games were close. None of the games are close. But they have, you know what I'm saying? Like that's that's the specialness. like what the NFL is always to be king but what we saw at happy valley on Saturday night and in between the hedges old miss like you can't replicate those type of Saturdays yeah and it's something special about on campus so oh you're right more of that would be better and I think when we go to 16 you could even you could have two two rounds at home and still have whatever so who's in your uh if the playoff were today is that different from your top 12 list yeah that's a little different i don't know is it should i think there's so much we don't know still

like when when i do a ranking and people are wondering hey why is texas number five who have they beaten they haven't beaten anybody they haven't beaten anybody but let's let's call a spade a spade here they have one game on the road against ohio state and then they had their four nobodies a lot of teams have their four nobodies to begin with they have their four nobodies and now they start back really building up again i think texas the defensive talent on that team is crazy i think they've spent the last month of the season getting ready. I'm just speculating on you're still speculating on so many teams in the top

10. Is now the time are you still buying Texas Tech stock? Oh, I think if you haven't bought it by now you waited too late. I think they're clearly the best team in the Big 12. It's too late to buy that stock. I think they are clearly the best team in the Big 12. TCU, I would have given a chance if they went second best team's probably Arizona State

who lost the Mississippi State but has won two in a row on the road at Baylor and then beating TCU at home. But I think Texas Tech outclasses everybody in that conference by a mile. Agreed. And they got a tough one this week. Listen, Houston's quietly. Yeah, Willie Fritz. Willie Fritz is a good coach. So Texas Tech's got a sneaky tough one, but I think the amount of talent, they went out in vault. And, you know, that used to be an insult calling somebody a cheater, but now it's a badge

of honor. Yeah, good for them. Good for them. Congrats to their alumni. They went out and changed, change their paradigm, changed who they are, and now I think they're the easily best team in the Big 12. Yeah. All right. Okay. Brandon. Brennan Walker. So I just got through the whole interview, Fornelli, never came in? Never came in. Nobody came in. Nope. There was no surprise. Now, is there a four Nelly filter on my face? No.

He is probably going to say tomorrow. Yeah. You would be correct. What are you about to say? Don't say it. Just don't say it. What if he just didn't say it? What if he just didn't say that he turned this down?

He would be correct in saying that he turned it down and then you came on. But we're, but it wasn't, it was kind of, it was fluid. It was like your rankings. It's fluid. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. God's watching right now. He had a busy schedule today.

We have a busy schedule. We had the, we had the yak at noon. we had this interview at 2 o'clock you asked me to do this at 1145 as you were just you just walked out the door to say hey do PMT today I said okay Fernelli really turned it down

Well he didn't turn it down He said I said to him Hey can you come on today And he said I'm free between 12 and 2 and 3 and 6 The only time we had was between 2 and 3 So you know what Best ability is available

I won this I won this I won this last year I had a competition against him Who'd you have that won the championship last year I don't remember how I wanted it. I just know I won it. I don't think I had Ohio State. Did you? Almost certainly. Almost certainly. I don't know that you did. I killed him in that playoff. No, this is this year. Your PFT, you're looking at this year. Last year I had Ohio State and they

won the championship. That was your, that was your pick? I won, didn't I? You did win. I won, motherfucker? As I won Dinger's only. Yeah. You win. You're a winner. Yeah. PFT didn't you offer a $1,000 cash to the winner of Dinger's only? You did. You're a great winner. You're also the best loser. How do you feel about your your picks this year? for this competition. Yeah, so your picks... I'm not even worried about it until... You actually have some good value.

You have Penn State, Texas, Notre Dame, Ellis... I gave you Texas. Oregon late. Oh, yeah. You're looking good. He falls off a cliff, Boise State, Baylor, Missouri.

Missouri's not bad. He has A&M and Texas Tech late, though. Yeah, yeah. Tom has Ohio State, Clemson, out, Georgia, Miami. That's a good pick. Alabama, Michigan, Utah, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech with the last...

I mean, listen, it was a draft. Once you get past, like, seven or eight it's it's tough it looks like he had a and m at eight that's pretty good he also got texas tech at 13 watch a lot 12 that's a great draft great draft and i think we were giving wow i gave you texas it says right there pft put brandon on texas no it doesn't say that it says also pft's pick yeah i gave you text so after i said texas you were like me too i said i'll put you on some game you said ditto i think texas might be good this year they were number two in the country no they appreciate it's number one i i told you about texas i appreciate that you said the team

that made the playoff two years ago he said art who that might still be true yeah that is true how do you feel about about field storming are we still doing this yeah i have one last question were you were you concerned has field storming gone too far i'm a little concerned that that was the greatest field storming ever and it might lead to field storming being pulled back entirely did you see that one uh twitter account uh cc fan who they hypothetically win field storming too they're like if this happened the cc like everyone would have been dead we got fine hypothetically, they win those. I love that.

Mississippi State got fined $500,000 for a field storm that was nowhere even close to that. If they were in the SEC, they would get fined like $2 million. Yeah. Where do they get fined in the ACC? I don't even know. I haven't seen anything about it. Virginia's never had this problem before. No, no.

They're like, hey, you haven't been here. We've got to let you have. Good for you guys. Yeah, the protocol on that. Yeah, they just sacrificed the Florida State receiver who disappeared into the crowd. Yeah, squirrel white. Was that squirrel white? It was squirrel white.

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Is this behavior I have to expect throughout our marriage, even when kids come into play? Thanks, boys, go Saints. What is those two phones for again? One is for the box score of the game. The other is for the bets that he currently has in. I think that's, it's fair. I also think that this is probably not written by a girl. I was about to say, yeah.

Yeah. I think double-fisting iPhones like Bonnie Blues does, like. I think it's written by a dude. being like, I'm going to write to them, pretend to be a chick and talk about dicks, so then they'll want to fuck me as a chick. We need more chicks to write in. Yeah, we need more chicks to write in. I would say also, you don't really need the box score because if you use draft kings,

wonderful draft kings, it updates it as it goes. Yeah, you can track it. You can track it right there. Also, I like writing my bets out. It's fun. It's nice to have on a piece of paper. Yeah, just looking at it. Or a whiteboard.

Or a whiteboard, yeah. Which never hits. What? I mean, we never hit the whiteboard. No. I don't think, I don't actually, have we ever hit the whiteboard? No. No.

You know what I was thinking? No, we did. We hit one last year. I think once, yeah. Let's do one that we can hit. Let's win one. Yeah. Okay.

Here's a theory. The Super Bowl halftime show is solely a thing to make Super Bowl Sunday more peaceful for the boys. It allows them to make a full day out of the Super Bowl as if it's a holiday because girls love the halftime shows so much. Think about any other Sunday during the season. No halftime show. No pregnant Rihanna. And the girls are nowhere near. is willing to allow absolutely nothing to happen

besides watching football. The Brazil game had a halftime show. Yeah. Shout up Mr. Beast. Christmas. I also think the halftime show is irrelevant for that. I think everyone watches the Super Bowl and makes a holiday out of it. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Also, PFT, you were correct in record time. Sage Steel looked through some bad boonny. Baboni? And she found some demonic stuff. Did she? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Dude, you have to find satanic stuff in the halftime show. Oh, yeah. That is actually the Super Bowl for schizophrenic people. Yeah. It is. That's what they live for. Babboni. My panics. Bad Boni.

Josh Allen. Matt Stafford. Hey, PMT. So I've gotten really into football in the last couple of years. Do you think my boyfriend is bothered by this? Sometimes I feel like I'm invading his world and that guys don't actually like girls that like sports. I think you guys love to mansplain sports to us. Well, yes.

Duh. Yeah. We love to mansplain everything. We like sharing common interests as long as we can teach you something about that common interest. as long as we feel like we have our claim staked on it already. A foundational piece of every relationship is a man answering questions they don't actually know the answer to and a woman just being like, okay, that's a foundational piece. Like there are many times where I just get asked a question and I'll give an answer because

that's just my natural, I have to give an answer even if I have no idea. I'm taking a wild guess and then just moving on. Yeah. If a girl said, did you see that Jaden Daniels has the highest quarterback rating in NFL history for a second year player through this many games? I would be like, that is so hot. But then if a girl was like, let me explain to you the numbers that go into quarterback rating, I would feel so emasculated. I would never want to look at it again. Yeah. Any of the nuance. I'm getting that. But the most reason when I got from my oldest was he was like, why are Sharpies called Sharpies when they're not sharp? And I was like, fuck, dude. that one I almost just drove off the side of the road I can't

can't answer that one but yeah did they feel sharp in your ears max I always play with this sharpie I don't know what that I don't know what that is I think yeah girls like football is awesome yeah it's great you just got to let like I said you just got to let us answer some questions

that we don't know the answer to and be okay with being like yeah that makes sense even though it doesn't yeah like nothing nothing makes a guy hot than being like actually you can't advance that fumble I know you're excited about it for a second but that's coming back Yeah

All right then last one Meme said read this one last if you want to have fun with it Oh Okay Finish this off This is the question yeah

Do you guys think double penetration is gay I mean technically it is right Love you guys It's uh we're talking about about B and V? Like two D's. Yeah, two. No, D in the V and a D in the A.

Yeah, D in the V, D and the A. That's what I'm saying. Or two D's in the V. Oh. Like you're starting to fire? Oh. Either one. No two Ds in the V. That's a one D V.

Yeah, that's there's not, there's enough room. There's some holes that are one D, yeah. This is also just like a comp, this is like if we, we started talking about what you know what do we like to play in the NFL like we're not guys that will ever be in the same stratosphere as any of this that's it's a whole different type of guy that yeah is out there doing d and v and dna at the same time yeah that's uh yeah i i don't think i've ever found myself in a situation where i've come anywhere close to even thinking about that was going to have and i would say uh no thanks yeah i'd be like can maybe maybe me and you could just do it yeah

maybe I'll just go d and v and then you can just do whatever you want after yeah there are a lot of dudes that that do the DNA or dnm and dnv at the same time that also has never been no no not even close not even close it's just porn talk yeah yeah somebody woke up this morning just wrote that in yeah yeah call me old fashion I like a little bit of intimacy yeah yeah get your girlfriends right in send to any girl you know Too many guys Are memes are if you're a girl who listens

Yes Yeah Yeah it was just That was bad way you That was misogynistic That was not nice That was bad I know if it was ever

I apologize I apologize Numbers Three Oh How do we not get that I might have No

Oh No no He got that one I actually might be rooting for memes today 22 I think I'm rooting for memes today 75 I need a win.

33. 61. 14. 19. 99. 76. If I was in a double D situation, I just know, I'd like, I'd try to cut the tension with a joke. And that would just ruin the whole mood.

Just be like, you're trying to be hottest. I try to be hot. Yeah. Eadie! So close Love you guys Love you guys I'm going to be able to be.

You know, I'm going to be. You know, I'm going to be able to be. You know what I'm going to be.