Pardon My Take - Rachel Nichols, Celtics Win Big, Pacers And Wolves Go Up, Derek Carr Retires, NHL Playoffs, Max Is Back And Jordon Of The Week

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

Max and the Celtics are back (00:00:00-00:21:02). We talk about the weekend in playoffs including the Warriors being a bummer without Steph, the Thunder and Nuggets playing horrendous basketball on Sunday, the Pacers blowout (00:21:02-00:43:52). We talk some hockey and PFT has a must win tag on Monday night and we had an insane buzzer beater in Edmonton (00:43:52-00:54:51). NFL News including schedule release week and Derek Carr retires (00:54:51-01:08:16). Who's back of the week including Theranos and the Rockies fire Bud Black because their owners suck (01:08:16-01:22:16). Rachel Nichols joins the show to talk NBA playoffs, where Giannis will play next year, Lebron paycut, MVP and more (01:22:16-02:00:49). We finish with Jordon of the week with recent new news about her and Bill Belichick and Max is back and gives us gifts from Hawaii (02:00:49-02:24:00).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have our good friend Rachel Nichols back on the show talking some NBA playoffs. We also have Max. He's back. Max is back. We're going to talk about all the playoff action from this weekend. Got a little NFL news we're going to talk about all the playoff action from this weekend. I've got a little NFL news we're going to get to. We got Who's Back and then we will finish with Max giving us gifts from Hawaii and Jordan of the Week.

She's back in the news. We screwed up our recording by about three hours because we said on Thursday night, man, it stinks. We don't have any new Jordan news and then we got the bombshell. Yeah. They always wait till Friday sometimes to put out the old Jordan bomb. Yeah. So Jordan of the week, two weeks running a great show coming your way. And it's brought to you by our friends at draft Kings. It's officially the best time of year for hoops fans, playoff drama, buzzer beaters, all the chaos we live for. And if you're done

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Celtics are so bad the two of them combined the Celtics are down one to two in this series, but it feels like they're up three to one. Yeah. Hank, we got a better mood. Hank here. I'm ready to go. Thank you. We're dominating this series one to two. We should probably start with this because you need to, we need to pump up our boy, get them back. There was some comments that were like, Hey, Hank's just, you know, he's down. He's, he's down in the dumps again. He's who said that negative Nancy not talking well Whoever said that it did not pay attention because Hank very clearly said that he wasn't worried

Yeah, yeah, it's not worried so so the Celtics on Saturday We're gonna talk about every game from this weekend the Celtics on Saturday kick the shit out of the Knicks Jason Tatum showed up in his in his fully laced up Timberlands ready to go to work What's that look for Hank? Why why'd you have to clarify? They're fully laced. Well, he was wearing Timberlands because it was a New York game He was he was like, I'm the bad guy. This was him doing the Joker Well, I mean, it's just like I mean the Joker did the joke I know literally the joke a guy with aura would have the Joker did the joke at the loose loose Timberlands I would say got it. Yeah, mr. Big safety first sir big cat decider of aura for basketball

No safety first if you're gonna throw somebody I am wear a black hoodie and the same pair of shoes You wear the same shit every day too. You want to get you in one game? Yeah, you do No, I do wear the same shit every day too. We all wear the same shit But I'm not deciding who has or it's literally this room is just PFT dresses like a fifth grader and then everyone else wears a hoodie and sweatshirt and joggers. That's it. That's all. That's the entire fashion apart in my day. I mean today I'm wearing a hoodie and basically joggers. Yeah, that was crazy. You wear, you dress the same as me. I don't sit here and decide how Jason Tatum the fucking NBA superstar. First of all, did I, what I said was there

a fully laced up. I was explaining the situation. I was Jason. They were fully laced up. I would Jason Tatum is essentially the same playoff performance. Joel Embiid. We also established that on Friday. Uh, he did say like the, the, the nodding of the laces. It's like, come on man. Yeah. Thank you. He was like, I will troll the construction site. I will troll them, but I also, I don't want to trip on myself. Yeah. I just want to hurt his ankles. It's pretty important. He's okay. I thought you said it was elite athlete. Elite athlete should be able to walk around with untied shoes and not trip on themselves. Whatever. Either way, Hank, good job. You won a game. Thank you. Uh, it

does feel, it feels not great for the Knicks because they, uh, they're up to one, but it felt like the cells were going to finally make their threes and then they finally made their threes and they won by 30 or no, I guess it was closer in the end. Uh, what they went by like 20, 22, but they were, this game was never in doubt. They scored what 71 in the end, uh, what they went by like 20, 22, but they were, this game was never in doubt. They scored what 71 in the first half. Uh, how are you feeling? I feel good. Uh, I'm happy. I said, I wouldn't be worried if I went down to, uh, they came, they came out, they showed what they needed to do. I feel like that's going to be, they're going to win this series in six. Oh, so that's it. That's it for the Knicks. Yeah.

I actually have a stat for you that might make you a little worried. Okay. You ready for it? Yeah. This is advanced analytics. In the last three seasons in the playoffs, the Knicks record in the second round,

when playing on ESPN, they're 0-8. This game was on ESPN. When playing on TNT, they're 7- 8 this game was on ESPN when playing on TNT there's 7 and 1 I looked ahead Monday's ESPN so that's a win so it's 2-2 Wednesday's TNT now the next backup 3-2 Friday's ESPN damn 3-3 Monday's TNT so you're gonna lose in 7 no team is gonna win a home game. I kind of like that. I Got some advanced and I love dumb stats like that for here to Hank The Knicks are so fucking tough

There's a tough. There's a tough fucking team not complaining about injuries or using excuses No, they just don't give up Carl Anthony towns might have broken his finger. I love cat so much finger nail So fucking zesty that when he hit his first three I think it was his first three since the piston series and he did like a he kissed his hand He's so funny. I also don't know why the Knicks don't get him involved more. They asked about his injuries He said what happens in the locker room stays in the locker. Love that. It happened on the court. Yeah Yeah, that seems like a cliche. He got his cliches like mixed up. Yeah, definitely injured. Yeah. Wait, or

did something happen in the locker room? It might have. If we know it's standing if we if we don't know it's gonna stay in there. There was a clip that you could see him say I think I broke my finger. Okay, but in the locker room, but in the locker room, it's broken. He pulls his fingers says I broke it dislocated maybe so he goes in the locker room. It's broken. He pulls his finger and says, I broke it. Dislocated maybe. So he goes in the locker room. Maybe he gets into, he just flips somebody off real hard.

I don't know. And hyper extends it. Makes it worse. Maybe pointed at someone and said, you. And then like kind of wagged it a little too hard. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, Hank, it does feel like, you know, water finds its level and the Celtics weren't

going to be a terrible three-point shooting team for forever It is weird that happened two games in a row I I actually in it obviously the cells hit their shots it sells defenses what won this game They have Jalen Brunson and how I know he still is scoring but he has to work so hard for everything And when the Knicks refused to I feel like they don't run plays for cat where he they just give him the ball They're like hey figure this out cat and then you have role players who don't step up enough Yeah, it was the Celtics defense was was the in Peyton Pritchard Celtics defense and Peyton Pritchard were the were the winners of this game In my in my eyes. I agree. Yeah Peyton Pritchard was was awesome. Very so fun to watch when he's hot

I got a question for you Hank. We talked about Chris stops Having whatever he has There's been more reports Shams even reported in in his report. He told us absolutely nothing He was just like yeah, he wakes up some days. He's tired mm-hmm He probably needs to do a follow-up to the Luca being like he slept all day. I think I got that yeah He's taking IVs everything is there a chance that you trust Luke Cornett more than Christoph's at this point. No I mean that's not bad. That's good Luke Carden. So yeah, he's good player. Not not exactly the offensive Spark plug that poor Zingis is but he's good defensively. He knows he knows his role

But I think you drive a person has even his offense hasn't been that good Well, yeah, he's dealing with whatever he's dealing with. But again, like they made it to the finals last year. He just needs to be a spark. Poor Zingus just needs to be a spark. I feel like you will need poor Zingus in the finals. Right? Does that part weird you at at all?

Are you already onto the finals? You can beat the Knicks. You guys are already up in the series. We've established that. Yeah, we're onto the fire you can beat the you can beat the Knicks you guys are already up in the series we've established that yeah we're out of the finals yeah but then you're onto the final not having prisingis then it becomes an issue for you we have no it's just he's gonna get healthier and healthier he's gonna get you know more catch more of his breath hopefully whatever he has fades away he'll be back I think it'll be fine going into this game were you nervous uh are you like we're going to win this game by a lot. Yeah. I was, I was confident. Uh, not nervous at all. Were you worried about the garden? No, I, the garden is most overrated

in sports. Well, you can say right now, both gardens, no team has won a home game. Yeah. So, uh, I also am addicted to some, just two things on the Knicks And I do think the Knicks are in a lot of trouble cat just being cat is very funny to watch he's just so zesty and then Mitchell Robinson shooting free throws and I don't know if you guys saw this but uh, we had one of the most ridiculous I don't know if there was like a weekend intern running the ESPN account. Mm-hmm Mitchell Robinson got to the free throw line The Knicks fans tried to cheer him on and ESPN treated the Knicks crowd supported Mitchell Robinson while he was at the free throw line, bigger than basketball.

I thought at a moment when I read that at first, I was like, does Mitchell Robinson have some illness? I do not know about. Is Mitchell Robinson, did he have like some horrific thing happen as a child that makes it so he can't shoot free throws his basketball hoop burned down when he was a kid and his family died in the, in the fire, something. No, he just can't shoot free throws and it's bigger than basketball. They're cheering for him, which is, wait, correct me if I'm wrong. Uh, free throws are a part of the sport of basketball. So they're cheering him from

the line. This is what, when Philly did did it we said good sports town for Trey Turner. This is remember that Yeah, the same thing except it's not working is making him airball the ball worse He ever was like every so great, but bigger than basketball. That's something that happens That's Little League World Series shit where they're like, yeah It's bigger bigger than sports and kids high-fiving playing ping-pong after after you know, Chinese Taipei beats him by a hundred Yeah, I mean New York as a sports town should be booing him. Yeah, right. That's what great sports towns do agreed They they hold their players accountable. I think maybe they've reached the end of their booing like we've already booed enough That's not working. We got to try something anything else

You know what some things are bigger than the game bigger than bad. They've priced out the real fans out of the garden. No, shallow may was there, but like anyone that you know, the cheapest ticket to get in was like 900 bucks. Ben Stiller. I mean, that is how playoffs work in all sports. When your team goes to the playoffs and then goes deeper into the playoffs, the tickets do get more expensive. I do think though that a city like New York you should have you have to work on the wording of this to make it a little you know smooth around the edge a poor section like for the real fans right.

I mean there's like there's a there's a shitload of people in New York that are diehard fans of the Knicks that aren't a list celebrities that would like to be able to go to a game that do make a difference in terms of cheering for their team. I mean season ticket holders still have tickets and those guys are diehards and don't have to be like billionaires. I'm sure those are very expensive though. Yeah they are but I mean it's how sports work. The ticket prices go up.

It sucks. I mean the garden was electric for a team that got absolutely killed. It was loud. Yeah. Yeah. In the beginning, it was very loud. So you're not intimidated by the garden at all. Do you think if there was a poor section, they wouldn't have made a bigger than basketball moment with Mitchell Robinson? They definitely would have. They would have done the right thing as sportsmen. It's like the Titanic. Yeah, you

need guys. You have way more fun below death. You need the guys who ripped down Julius Randall's fat head. Yeah, like a couple years ago Yes injured like their assholes. Yeah, but they're your assholes. Yeah. No, I see what you're saying so Max you missed Basically the worst week that you could have missed because I think we all When the Knicks were up to oh, we're like, this is funny But if the Celtics hit some

shots it's not going to be funny much longer. And you missed that whole week. So yeah, Celtics probably aren't going to lose a game the rest of the playoffs. Oh wow. Damn. Wow. Max has come all the way around. I can tell you meant that.

What was the feedback on your Embiid versus Tatum take? I stand by it. No, what was the feedback? I mean, I had people trying to dunk on me. feed versus Tatum take. I stand by it. No what was the feedback? I mean I had people trying to dunk on me, trying to dunk on me for Tatum having 20 points going 8 of 20 from the field. Great. Huge game.

Hank? Any other feedback? Stathole gave me some numbers that backs up what I said. Uh huh. Did he give you any numbers regarding not playing in the playoffs? Yeah, the Celtics are a better team. Do you think that that is a point in favor of Jason Tatum though? The fact that Embiid has missed a lot of important playoff games?

Injuries are a shame. What about playoff points scored before 27 years old? Do you see that stat? I didn't see that stat. Who's leading in that? Wait, that that stat. Who's leading in that? That's participation? Yeah per game. Tim's still under 27 years old?

Or is he 27? He's under 28. Are they gonna just keep bumping that up? He's gonna be under 29 next year? Yeah I'll probably be winning that one too. Max do you just root against any superstar in the playoffs. Jason Tatum is not a superstar. Let's embrace debate.

Memes? Oh yeah. Let's get the Knicks. Memes just kept saying it. Every time you kept saying Jason Tatum is a superstar, he was like, memes just kept saying star. Star. Star.

Star. Star. Star. Star. Star. Star. saying star star. Listen I we had this debate last year. I'm very critical. Jordan if you're not a superstar I'm very critical of the tag superstar. People got mad at me when I said Jalen Brunson was a superstar. I have I have like four superstars in the whole league. Yeah I'm fine with that. Yeah okay play on the Olympic team. He didn't play is who are the four like so it's yokich it's Yanis It's Luca and then it's there's like the aging group of superstars. That's like Steph LeBron KD It's not much. I don't go Superstar to me is if you said their name like to to your mom or someone on the street

They would immediately be like, yeah, of course. I know who that is Jameson days in this don't know he's he's a star. I'm very critical of the suit We've we've done this so I don't want to rehash it but like it's not a knock on him I jail and Bronson. I feel the same way. It's like he's a star Superstar has to be like one of the like everyone knows who that person if you're a star in New York, though That gives you a little extra bump though Yeah, that's true. I listen some people have superstar threshold is different than mine I don't know if I put Luke in there just yet. I think he was star

Like a super I think he was And now he's not now. He's not now. He's not taken out a superstar. Yeah, he's like one of those stars That's about to engulf the is Is right there. He's like the Sun and 40 billion years when it swallows how burden I have like a service. I like SGA Tatum Brunson and the Edwards like right there Okay, I'm able to scare you we'll just have to keep winning champions and see how you you know move this take back Well, no my superstar. Well, what about I don't know winning championships when you've only won one

Well, we've won one. So you can't but it so we would Say we just want to get more continuously winning championship You have you are not continuing the current champions and if win another one, that would mean we kept winning. You are losing the series. No, no, no. No, you're not. So then don't do that. Save it. Max. And we didn't tame her the same player. Their fourth quarter numbers are exactly the same. They're, their offensive rating is exactly the same and beads and beads better defensive rating. He has a better plus minus per game They're the same they're the same

It's like they played in a game seven and Jason Tatum went off to beat the Sixers after coming back from three to two Like I will never understand all coming back from three to two Oh my god, the most surprising thing in all fucking sports Who's gonna forget the team that came back from three to two? I feel like he's being sarcastic right now. I don't You just said that it was like like it was the Red Sox meeting the Yankees down three Oh when we're talking about head-to-head comparisons usually have you like you the way you just said that was like it was like Yankees red So yeah, just wait till the things come back from being down, but that like that. Oh my god Yeah, just wait till the Celtics come back from being down. But that like, that-

Oh my God! It showed something. Max, do you root against every superstar in the playoffs so that you can say like, Embiid's actually better than that guy? No, just the so-called superstar of the Boston Celtics. Okay. Okay. Shout out Stathole Sports, he's the best.

Yeah. We have, wait, so these are the Stath hole sports. He has all these numbers up here. The these are what he sent me to two things. One of them is just like overall. And then the other one is actually bizarre. It's like they're worth quarter numbers. Better offense and better defense. No, wrong defense. It's better. It's better to have a lower number. Okay, Max, you know what? Any of these numbers are that we're looking at? Yeah, I don't know. One is 110.2 to 108.3. What goes into player rating? Yeah, I need to know.

I don't know. What goes into war? Some guns. We didn't bring up war. But that's what I'm saying. You know, it's important. Okay. I don't know what goes into it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But this also has Tatum is better than Embiid in both numbers. Wrong. He the defense. It's better to have. He explained this to me because I was confused as well. Defense. It's better to have a lower number. Max said it is. Yeah. Just schedule like a zoom call with him. So he could explain each number? It makes sense. Better to be higher in office. Lord.

Actually, that does make sense. That does make sense. All right. Uh, okay. What's, what's the other game? Do you think they're going to continue to cheer? These are the Robinsons at the fourth quarter line, by the way. We'll put, we'll put all these numbers up in the, in the YouTube. We're not going to, but we're not going to get into it. Can't wait. Literally the same percentage. What do they say? player shooter shots made in the final five minutes? That's clutch time baby of a five-point game or less. They have the exact same percentage. Okay Wow 0.348 same player same guy But no, I mean that's I hate how you're turning this into a pure numbers argument

Also, doesn't that mean but that mean they just you're not a numbers guy. Don't yeah That was that was the whole point of this argument. You're a trenches guy You're not a number when Hank did this are this numbers thing with us you would numbers Numbers when he did the thunder Celtics. He did this exact same thing You guys have twisted you that argument and words that I've said into a place. I can't even Begin to come back from, PFT is right. You're not a numbers guy. That would be like Hank dressing nice on a regular day.

Like you're not a numbers guy. You look really weird. He's not a numbers guy. You're an emotions guy, Max. Yeah, you're a fucking, you're a piss and vinegar guy. You're a gut guy. Yeah, you're a meatball. Yeah, you are a literal meatball

There's no numbers to meatballs. Yeah, it's good I need good if you're gonna be a numbers guy You gotta go all in you gotta start wearing khakis and wear glasses and shit a little umbrella the belt Yeah, Steve Karnacki shit. Yeah, you're not just stop being a numbers guy for ya. All right let's talk about Timberlake Warriors because Steph is still not playing and the Warriors are very difficult to watch. Yeah. Very, very tough. Watch without them. They are very different. They were leading at half without making a three. I mean credit

to Jimmy Butler and commingo for keeping this game close. But this was this game was Julius Randall. Julius Randall has been so good for he's their most consistent player like the I Anthony Edwards. I know I think he had 36, uh, and Anthony Edwards obviously has a higher ceiling and all that stuff. Julius Randall's in these playoffs has been Mr. Consistency. And it's crazy to watch him like make the right pass instead of doing his old school spin move where he spins to no one, uh, being all over the boards, like just he, he's not forcing it. He's letting the game come to him and it's it's cool to watch a guy Like find a good spot. It's probably gonna piss off Knicks fans to watch this but he is

Mr. Consistency and he was triple double in this game. Yeah, so actually Anthony Edwards gets better the better Julius Randall gets to yeah it's like a force multiplier because as Dangerous as Edwards is when he's dribbling the ball and he's attacking, he's about to just dunk through everybody. He's also that dangerous when he's moving without the ball if he has somebody that can get it to him in the right place. Yep. And that's Julius Randall right now who's softening up the light just bearing his his shoulders into people's solar plexus backing him down and then finding Anthony Edwards cutting. It does they are fun to watch when they do that and credit to the Golden State Warriors because they played some good defense They're really good defensively. They mucked it up They they have to get like real dirty and chippy and nasty with it Which they did in the first half and then it was just too much at the end They couldn't get a shot when they needed a shot and the highlight of the fourth quarter was a guy in the stands that looked

when they needed a shot and the highlight of the fourth quarter was a guy in the stands that looked very similar to Mike Dunleavy Making out with a woman as Jimmy Butler was on camera. Yes. I don't think that was actually him No, but it's fun to pretend that it was I agree Also, the highlight of this game was Draymond Green knowing the spread and telling his guys to cover the spread Yeah, five and a half would now is he telling his guys or was he telling the other team? Like what's the spread five and a half? Yeah, we got this just watch I think it was coming out of a huddle and he cuz dream on green had followed out of the game I don't if you can find the clip max Heat max is max does the funny thing after he goes toe-to-toe with Hank

He just kind of sits back and like stops takes like a timeout mental timeout. We like I was processing replaying What he's still going people are gonna get upset about this no I can't believe I said that no that was good can't believe I tried to do math he just didn't have his hands anywhere near his computer there when we started I should have brought up the thing about keep winning yeah uh yeah you might be right it might be good might be telling yeah I think he's telling Nas read that's what it looks like he was was that Nas I think so and a half. He's like five and a half Yeah, watch this. Yeah, we got this. I also like that people like they make a three. This is rigged

There was 15 seconds left. The Warriors were gonna try to score. Yeah, I don't you can't rig It'd be one thing if it was They were up if it was, you know, the wolves had said five and a half and they're like, Hey, let the warriors score here. Right. They could cover or if Nas had looked at him and been like, yeah, okay, got it. Five and a half. And then told us to make say, Hey, like don't play, don't play defense, which they might not have been playing that tough defense because the game was out of hand at that point. And they're just like, don't foul. Right. Right. Uh, but it is funny to see it looks, I haven't seen anybody suggest

anything else besides him saying that it was five and a half there. Yeah. And what else could the five and a half? Absolutely five and a half. Uh, I'm just happy that we keep doing the woo, the woo tweet. I would like to see Steph Curry playing this game. I don't really want to see would like to see Steph Curry play in this game. I don't really want to see Gary Payton and Gary Payton Jr. or the second, sorry. And Podzimski just like miss a million shots. But I said that was Steph. Buddy Hill's actually been like decent.

Yeah. He's not, you can't expect much more from what Buddy Hill is giving. No, you can't expect- He's, we're at max Buddy Hill. You can't expect much more from this team. No, you can't expect he's worried Max buddy heel. You can't expect much more from this team. No, like it's Jimmy Butler basically making incredible footwork plays in one on one basketball and then shooting it over Rudy go bear who does affect every shot and you're hoping that all of them go in and then maybe have a chance. Yeah. Your

prayer is to get a Jimmy Butler 50 point game and coming. It did have his 30 point game. So that was as tough that it came in a loss. I don't see them winning another game without stuff. It could happen if Jay Butt does the Jay Butt thing. Yeah. And yeah, I just... The Wolves are fun. Julius Randall, fun. I like watching the Wolves and I like watching... I mean Anthony Edwards that dunk he had. Woo! And also, you know what? You know know I'm rooting for Mike Conley yeah like Mike Conley a lot of course good guy and he adds like a like he had I think it was like late in the game I watched all these games on real I saved them on YouTube TV and watch them on my flight back it was like towards the end of the

game where he was just playing really good defense I was like Mike Conley fucking like that's the dad in you I I had dads love Mike Conley. Oh, I think meant the recording. Cause that also is what my dad does. No, that too. But like dads love Mike. Oh yeah. He's the perfect guy for dad to watch and be like, that's why they can win the championship. I just like Mike Conley. Yeah. Shout out Mike Conley. He does do all the little things. Yeah. Uh, all right. Nuggets thunder has been a weird series 2-2 since we last recorded though. We had the overtime game on Friday night where I don't want to like reduce playoff basketball into one simple thing, but I think in this game you can where it simply was the Denver Nuggets

are former champions and the Oklahoma City Thunder are a young team and it was like find a way to win and the Nuggets could do it and the Thunder were like, our young team, and it was like, find a way to win, and the Nuggets could do it, and the Thunder were like, hey, let's just have SGA go one on five and hope it works. Yeah, I think this whole series just in general, I guess with the exception of the blowout in game too, but there have been a lot of instances where like small coaching decisions,

small like mental errors, have just tilted the games in one direction or the other. And Aaron Gordon just being the man. Mr. Nugget. He is so in one direction. And Aaron Gordon just being the man. Eric, Mr. Nugget. He is so awesome. Give me five. Aaron Gordon.

Did you know that he built a court in his house this summer and worked on his shot all summer? Well, it shows. Yeah. And he loves it. Like he loves stepping back and taking those threes now. Yeah. He's kind of stepped into that was his role right now is kind of what Porter was

doing last year and the year before. And also Michael Porter Jr. is playing with an entire ice pack on his shoulder. Yeah. One on all time. One arm just not working. Yeah. But so Friday night, the nuggets have a huge win. It's like, all right, if they can somehow win on Sunday, this series could be over. And they, this game was horrific to watch. The nuggets scored eight points in the first quarter. The teams are combined one for 32 shooting at one point from three point to start the game. It felt like the nuggets had this game or they at least were going to have a chance to win this game and get to that pressure point of like, Hey, we're the team that's won a championship and Yocic missing those two free throws when it was 8480

So Yoke's just not been that good like he's hurt. Yeah, he's Beating the way he runs It looks like he like is in so much pain. That's kind of always how he looks I know but it's extra he's like extra kind of I think today it stood out slow and Because like like big guy was saying the fact that the nuggets have all the experience and the Thunder So young that's kind of why the nuggets were able to win on Friday night I think that's why the Thunder were able to win today younger after like 35 hours off yeah, the Thunder just bounced back and the oldest guy the Thunder is Alex Caruso and the The nuggets were they looked like they didn't have any

legs at all in the first quarter. I and that now they did come back to a point where they could have I think taken the lead on the shot if not tied it where Russ had the wide open three and just air mailed it. That was a shot. I feel like he missed he wide open. There was like a few moments in that fourth quarter where it's like oh here come the nuggets and there was I there was at least two that had come to mind of Russ having a wide open three and missing air balling. Yeah. Yeah. But he did make that great stop against SGA though, when he was like, okay, we're going to ISO. I'm going to get inside of his shirt.

And then I think the announcer said afterwards he was in his chest like bronchitis, which is a great call. How long, how long do you think he had that one cocked and ready to go? But it was, I heard it. I was like, yeah, that's, that's right. That's it. Nuggets are winning. That's true. Yeah, but it was, I mean those two, I know like, well it does come down. You gotta make your free throws and like yo, it was kind of shocking to see Yokech miss those two free throws. And it's also, we're having, we're having a competing war online of fanbases

and posting replays of Jokic flops and Thunder beating the fuck out of Jokic and which one's more egregious. There's complaints coming from all sides because there was that clip that went viral the other night of Lou Dort just basically trying to wrestle Jokic and nothing getting called. And then Jokic having flops and yokich and nothing getting called and then yokich

Having flops and doing stuff and nothing getting called. I think they're just not calling anything ever Yeah, which I'm okay with as long as they stay consistent. Yeah, Lou Dord it Lou Dord does have a little bit of Football player playing like pickup basketball with the basketball. He's got some show elbows Yeah, he can't hit a three right now too. And I'm a torture guy. I'm a torture chamber guy. I love Lou Jordan. I think Yoko has some of that soccer mentality. Yeah, kind of grew up with that European style where it's like if you get touched, you have to sell it. I rarely see and I'm sure that somebody's going to send some examples of him doing like true flops. But I feel like most of the time he somebody touches him

and then he exaggerates the reaction. And I also do think there's times where he just doesn't get the call. Yeah, like because he's it happened to Shaq famously of like Shaq is so big. They don't know how to how to officiate him because he's so much bigger than everyone. Yeah, I mean, the NBA got caught in a like it was a gap in the playbook or in the rulebook where I think it was Caruso was defending against Jokic as he was going for a layup and Caruso had his hand on his hip and then Jokic goes up for the layup and like flails his body a little

bit. They call the foul, then they challenge it and they look at it and they're like, clearly this is a foul that should not have been called in real time. But by the letter of the law, his hand was on his hip. So it is a foul even though we can all see that it's not. That was, I think that was the two free throws that he missed. It was, yeah. Yeah, so it was a ball don't lie moment.

Big time ball don't lie. Yeah, huge ball don't lie. Ball don't lie for Caruso. Yeah, but it's, it's, it really is a clip war going on. Yeah. On both sides. And I'm just sitting here just enjoying it. I think that... Today was not an enjoyable basketball game, I should say.

No, it was not. No, it was not at all. The first half sucked. There were so many air balls. Yeah. Uh, who do you think's gonna win this series? I think I do think you'll just gonna have another like he's not gonna play. And again, all in perspective, a bad Jokic game is when he's like 26 points, 12 rebounds, but he has to take like 24 shots to do it. Yeah, what's the schedule? I think their next game is Tuesday. You're just going off legs.

Just going off legs right now. Yeah, they play Tuesday, Thursday. They don't get a day off. Then Sunday if there's a game seven. So that would be the only time they get two days off. So if you're going off legs, the N and nuggets have to win one of these next two and then they get a couple two days off Before game seven I so I'm gonna go nuggets. You're gonna go nugs. I think they can steal one thunder dude thunders teams too stacked What are you mocking PFC? No

So I'm not felt mocking. He's mocking me. They won the most games in the league. They're the youngest team Guy for guy guy for guy. They're stacked That I was just trying to impart a little a little awareness to you and a little you know Yeah, you've got you should be how you should be like you were a little too cocky and you gotta be a little bit more Humble like I'm I was that's what I did. I I Took in the information like a sponge. Mm-hmm. And now I'm giving it back and I'm getting mocked for it Is that what sponges do? Mm-hmm. Yeah, they absorb after we ring you out. Yeah twist you up The last series the Pacers. Holy shit. They kicked the fuck out of the Cavs tonight

I know the Cavs so the Cavs won on Friday night of the Cavs tonight. I know the Cavs. So the Cavs won on Friday night. Donovan Mitchell was out of this world. That one highlight was so sick of him spin moving and then readjusting in the air. But tonight was this Pacer ball. I think they had 25 assists in the first half. Insane. Insane. So at everyone shot, they're shooting like 60%. It was crazy. They were moving the ball so well. Half time they were up 80 to 39. That's a 41 point halftime lead. I think that's tied for the biggest halftime lead in the history of the NBA playoffs with who Hank? The Celtics, the Cleveland Cavaliers over the Celtics in 2017.

Got it. That was the game. You lost your wallet. We might've been there. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was wallet. That was wallet where, yeah, we, We I left he went off. I left it in Cleveland or was that 20? That might have been 26. Was that not the first year of part of my take? I thought that might have been the first year No, because because we weren't I do is the Isaiah Thomas year. I think it's 2017 Easter Conference finals. I Think no, I said game seven. I think 2016. I think it was year one of part of my take No, then I left it there. No machine gun Kelly performing. Yeah, 2017 for sure who could forget Are you gonna let him just nope you like that? I know I not trust I trust hey

I'm looking it up getting his ass kicked by LeBron. Don't don't let him just nope you like that No, I mean if Hank says no LeBron became my daddy in 2017 I believe we were in that was 2016 was Cleveland. Thanks. Gonna be a massive thumbs up. I Like that. That was such a no. That was good content But yeah, so they were up 72 to 31 yikes. You guys only scored 31 points in the first half against him Yeah, that was Kyrie. Remember Kyrie scored like 18 points in a row Yeah, 80s like I've never seen anyone play basketball 80 to 39 It is almost beat them in game 7 80 39 is a bigger 41 point later than 70 almost beating someone in game 7 That's what we're that's what we're saying is well, it's also Eastern Conference finals

So we know Joel and be can never say we were gonna say that's great accomplishment So you guys should do a podcast? That's a great accomplishment. So you guys should do a podcast. Say what you're gonna say then. I would listen to it. Absolutely. I would. No, I was saying 80 to 39 is a bigger 41 point halftime lead

than 72, 31. Yeah, someone asked me and I said the only thing bigger than 80, 39 would be 70 to 29. That's a huge lead. 72, 31 does not even feel like 41 points. Yeah, but 70 to 29 is, that massive 7029 is if you have a 2 7 that's crazy 60 to 19 60 to 19 is I mean that's that's a that's not a NBA basketball game. That's a football

No, I was gonna say that's a high school girls basketball like, you know The first round of this of the of the tournament state tournament Yeah, all right, the best team plays the worst team is 60 to 90. Also the NCAA women's tournament. Yeah, yeah. Like Yukon against, I don't know, Norfolk State. Yeah. Yukon against Kennesaw.

Yeah, I like that Kennesaw poll. Yeah. I was on the tip of my tongue. Uh-huh. Pace, listen, I'm not gonna say this series is over because I do think the Cavs are going to win the next game. And then there's a little bit more pressure. But Charles Barkley thinks this series is over because he said, I'll see you all in Indy next week. Say no most,

get the steak ready. Well done. Filet mignon. Okay. That is so disgusting. That is so disgusting that is so just also I think he said filet mignon If that's also if you're gonna say well done on any any kind of steak listen I've never wanted to judge somebody based on how they order their steak or what is and is not a temperature You would never do that. Yeah. Well, well done filet mignon. That is quite literally a hockey puck. Yeah, he loves hockey He does love hockey good point. I mean, I do think the pace are gonna win this I think they're better than the Cavs I just think that the Cavs are gonna win game five So there'll be a little bit of is Donovan Mitch Mitchell. Okay. Oh, yeah, did he come back in? He hurt himself at halftime walking

What happens in locker? He's your team is good Hank Yeah, you you you've you've been mocking me. Now I like to answer Dan. No, I just was Luca Dan. They don't get any respect here. They don't get any respect. You're right. And you're giving it to him a lot.

You're not. I'm not at all. The thing we've learned the most in these playoffs is any team is capable of turning into a giant ass in any given half. Yeah. Every team has had a suck ass half. Yeah. Big time. Big time. And the Pacers had a whoop ass half at the same time as the Cavs had their suck ass half. Yeah, it was poor timing. Wait, did Don Mitchell come back in the game? I don't think he did because he only played 20 minutes That's not good. I I'll be honest I tuned out the second half because I was like the Pacers are just so much better

So devil return game after serving an ankle injury. Okay, I take that back The Pacers are gonna win this series maybe in five I think in five so if we just going off vibes and I think I predicted Cavs in five or six So I was very wrong about that But yeah, Pacers, they got to get they got to go back to the old logo for the fucking Eastern Conference final. I agree. And if the Pacers play the Knicks or the Celtics, that's, that's like, big time, like you have to you have to go because you're gonna be playing a team with a classic logo, correct? And you can't you have to fight fire

with fire. You can't be you can't be the Indiana heat, which is what they've been wearing. I agree. It'd be bad. Look. So just based on vibes, the Celtics Nick series, it's one to two week. We all agree. It feels like Celtics are up three to one. Is that fair? I would feel like two, two, it feels like three and a half to one and a half, three and a half to one and a half Celtics? Yeah. Okay. I don't know why that doesn't make any sense. Timberwolves up two one on Golden State.

But that feels like three and a half. Let me explain why I think three and a half, one and a half. I feel like the Celtics are one half of basketball away from the Knicks being like, all right, we quit. Yeah. Like if they come out and they just absolutely, I think the Knicks would be was, this is not fun. Okay, the T-Wolves Warriors, it's 2-1 right now for the T-Wolves.

I feel like that's 2.5 to half a game. It might be 3.5 to half a game without Steph. Without Steph, yeah. But if it's 2.5 to half, then they have a better chance of getting Steph back at some point. Yeah. Because otherwise you just added another game. then nuggets, thunder. That, that one to me feels like it's, I think it's correct score. You think so? I think it's two, two. It feels like three, one thunder right now. No, I think it's two, two. Cause I think it's the way the nuggets have won their two games has been very like we're a team that knows how to do this whereas

the Thunder cannot I know that it was like crazy game one obviously but like the championship medal of the Nuggets DNA deserves two wins in this okay we can go to two it does feel it's close to two two yeah and then Pacers Cavaliers I'll I'll I'll go to a two and a quarter to one one point seven five okay roll that then the Pacers Cavs I feel like it's four nothing. I think it's five one Is what I have it at five one Hank do you agree with all these advanced metrics? Yeah? Dude the filet mignon well done Mmm, and hey what if that's seen almost do you think that there's anything anything to Joe Missoula being really fucking happy that he was down oh, too I

Think it's just a sign of being a great coach it Instills confidence in the team when you got someone that likes to be in those situations to you know inspire your players He likes to be drowning so he can swim to shore Yeah, he wants to choke himself out right and if you're a player that's like all right We know what to do that would be funny if the if the Knicks like somehow won Monday night And then Joe Missoula came out game five with just like a belt around his neck Just tightening it a little bit more ball gagging. Yeah, just dressing leather What happens if the Knicks do win Monday night max let me what happened?

Let me ask you a question first do you think the Knicks are away again on Wednesday? They they can if the Knicks are going to win Monday night? They can. If the Knicks win Monday night, I'll tell you what's going to happen. If the Knicks can win Monday night, I think the Celtics will 100% win game five and then it will be just pressure cooker two games, two game series. That's what, if the Knicks can win Monday night. Do you agree with that? Yeah. Yeah. No, Monday nights are only shot. Yeah. But I mean, if the Knicks win Monday, I don't think the Celtics, they can't come back from down three to two.

That would be three, one, three to one. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, actually, the Knicks have to win Monday night because the only thing you don't want to do is have a three, two lead on the Celtics. Correct. History. You can't have that. Tatum will explode. Fuckin go nuts. You'll be rooting. I love this, Max. Tata will explode. We'll fucking go nuts. You'll

be rooting. I love this Max. I love it. And it's also partially like it's a good mix of your, your absolute hatred for Hank. What makes me feel better when Matt also the Villanova guys are in a good spot. We got to Pope Max, but here's the thing. Like this is after we got a Pope. Good, good point. We do have a pope. Uh, here's the thing, Max. This is not the series. I think like I know the first two games happen. The Knicks kind of had to win Saturday. Yeah, but the, like they weirdly had to go up three Oh, cause it just, what happened on Saturday? Like what's, what's more? What can you replicate more? The Celtics have had a 20 point lead in all three games. I know, but Nixon six. Right. So I'm saying

is don't put all your eggs in this basket for this. I know, but I can't wait till the finals. I got, I got it like Pacers. No, I can't have the Pacers. The Pacers are so boring. Look at it. No, they're the opposite of boring. But you don't watch ball. They're the opposite of boring. But I'm saying like media wise, they're boring. You're saying, Oh wow. You're saying ESPN exec. John skipper over here. You're saying, no, but I'm just saying I have the Nova like ties to the Knicks. Like there's at least something there. You're just saying that you don't watch the Pacers. So don't like that they're in, Indiana. Yeah Traditionally, yeah, they're boring. Yeah

Traditionally, they are boring. Yes, I will give you that Doesn't do anything for you. Trust me as soon as it becomes Pacers Sees I'm all aboard the the peace train Yeah, we give him a run Smith's Jersey. Yeah. We give him a run our test. Yeah. I just needed some juice. I just needed some juice and Monday night. Yeah. Monday night. Okay. Should we talk some hockey PFT? Yeah. Are you in trouble? I think we might be in trouble. I might also wake up. Yeah. I was checking one thing I was looking at the scores we were talking on Thursday night like before Before we recorded because you guys were out. So just me and PFT and memes on the zoom and I was just like

It's crazy that Hank just does like he because he doesn't watch hockey He can't just reverse everything that PFT trolls Hank with like I was going through I watched all these But you know, he's going through like he's down to one. I'm the difference between me and beauties. I like PFT and I Want the Capitals to do well Okay, so what do you think we have to do Hank to turn the series around? Well, I don't know hockey you need to score more goals You need OB to fucking get some Russian gas in them and and and fire the boys up No, they're so

Annoying and it's I say that as an agape guy and listen Yeah, we're both big-time agape guys on this podcast, but they're annoying But I mean that and it's almost like a compliment because they're a good team Oh, yeah, annoying winning annoying is a good thing. You want you want yeah your opponents to say that you're annoying Yeah, Ovi has not played that great this series. He had a couple solid looks in the first period But there is like it's crept in my head. I'm having some dark thoughts I'm trying to pull myself out of but I go through this with all my teams. It doesn't matter I always expect the worst to happen. Uh, Ovi seems like he,

he's hit that wall at the end of the season because he's so fucking old. We saw it last year in the playoffs against the Rangers and the same type of energy level body language is what I'm seeing from Ovi. And he's a Russian guy. He's right. He knows Puck too worried about the record, not worried enough about saving himself for the playoffs No, they had they had a great season. They go Hank. They were first in the East Hank. He had a great season Would you rather have he have do you want your team to save itself for the playoffs?

If you're old and you need to rest, yeah. Yeah, that's a fair point Got him there. I just he doesn't he doesn't seem to have any of that juice. And I don't know. I hope that he proves me wrong and he comes out next game. But when they were playing nobody's in March, he was buzzing around scoring

two goals a night. Don't talk about the Blackhawks and the Islanders. I'm just saying. I think Tom Wilson is really the only guy that has been consistently great for us. And if you watched on I think it was Friday night the only guy that has been consistently great for us And if you watched on I think was Friday night that they know Saturday Saturday the day they played Tom Wilson had a fantastic Game on Thursday to like Tom has been the best player on the ice when he's out there

And he's so fun to watch and everybody that doesn't have a Tom Wilson They hate Tom Wilson, but if you have a Tom Wilson you fucking love the guy He played great on Saturday again to the goaltending was better. But then at the end, it just he was a game. So what are you? What's the fix? You got Is this a must win? It's Yeah, so I think the mistake was I I said I was going to announce on on Saturday morning if it was a must win. I forgot to announce if it was a must win game. Oh

no, big big mistake. This is a must win. Monday is a must win. I forgot to announce if it was a must win game. Oh, no. Big, big mistake. This is a must win. Monday is a must win. And we're one and one and must win games this postseason. So it's 5050. It's a must win. If you don't win on Monday, Thursday becomes a can't lose Thursday becomes a must not even you can't lose. Yeah, my don't must not entertain the thought of losing. Yeah, because I don't what I'm worried about now is going to the game on Thursday and then having the season closed out of my face Right. Oh, no. Yeah, it'd be tough But yeah, Hank any other advice cuz you're right on the money when you say that we need some Russian gas

Since I'm send Ovi all the Russian gas because he needs it And it's Caroline like we we need leaf caps we do need leaf scapes can't have carolina fucking florida no no we can't they shoot so much cuz then I just don't then you got nothing you lose me yeah yeah right you lose we cannot lose Hank you lose Henry lock Hank is the face of the casual hockey fan and you you will the ratings will go down the toilet. We cannot lose Hank. We also had a buzzer beater on Saturday night.

It was sick. Insane. Insane. Do we want to debate how it could actually be a buzzer beater with time still on the clock? I was joking. We don't, we don't. It was, there was point four seconds left on the clock.

I don't know what Skinner was doing in that moment. I don't know hockey. I'm not an expert, but it feels like the goalie's job there is to put their leg firmly on the post and make sure nothing gets by him in that angle. And he comes so far out. I, I mean, I, it was crazy. It was a goal too. What? Yeah. His own goal. Yeah. Dry side. Oh, wow. I mean, he's trying to make a play. It's kind of got stuck there. It was, that was nuts. It was crazy how the camera inside of the goal made it look like it bounced off the

post in real time. And then they had to go back and the announcers, the dancers were like, they didn't know. They had no idea. Yeah. And then they had to go back and look at it. Well, the announcers were like, they didn't know. They had no idea. Yeah. And then some of the guys on, they were celebrating on the ice and then they looked at the review and very clearly it was a goal, but still weird that it was able to like bounce out like that. What happened was on that play, it was the shot fake that drew the goalie out. But still you have to know time and place. In the goalie's head, he's like, oh, there's one second left surely He's going to write a slap shot and not take you know

Not not try to skate around to the side and get get on the side of the crease. So in his mind He's like this is their final chance. I have to come out make the angle as small as possible I in and maybe hockey people will tell me I'm way off But it just that I does seem as simple as like you have to have your you have to have the post there but that's understandable what pft saying is like he was trying to stop the slap shocks i assume that's the last shot game he came so far it was a great fake shot no but he but he could have he didn't have to he came over an angle he comes out of the camera he came out of the crease like he came too far out before the fake Like he was just out of position like

Right there that that's fine. But then like you have to get back He's so far out of the yeah, that's a crazy. That's just crazy I don't know how that I mean and and listen the Oilers are up to one, but that's the type of game I don't know how that I mean and and listen the Oilers are up to one, but that's the type of game That's like you had or you didn't have but you just can't lose like that. Yeah, Whitney must have been just oh He was he was Twitter spaces was buried Sad but very fun. It's been a sad couple days for the boys. Yeah, so biz biz Biz a great-looking guy. He dresses sharp on TNT and then I was watching the coverage on Friday and

He looked like a used car salesman like he didn't shave. He looked like he Woke up late didn't have time to shower his Saval all these his suit was in his car and he just threw it on no, I don't know I hear the judge of aura he did it judging everyone's fashion today I don't know why you're the judge of aura. He did it judging everyone's fashion today I'm not judging fashion east. I'm I'm I'm assuming biz It's like a bit that he's doing because it's like he usually dresses very sharp Like he didn't even shave or anything like he it was I think it's an intentional thing that he's doing like a playoff beard Or I don't know because he wore the same outfit again tonight. I

Think he looks great. Well, this is a good-looking guy. Yes. He's one of those guys That's so handsome that it when he dresses poorly on purpose. It makes him look even better Yeah, the uh, the the Leafs had no chance tonight because Yans hit the drum He was the and we got to get Yans on he hit the drum for the Panthers That was it and he banged the biz idiot shirt. Yeah, which is a great shirt. Yeah, so that that was and It did feel cuz what game when was game? Three was Friday night Marshawn in the in OT

That was where the Leafs if they could have won that game found a way to win that game Then it's like alright You should not fully leaf this and I'm not saying they've leafed it yet because his home team has won both games and it's been very competitive. But now the it gets a little tighter for the Leafs. And there's a little bit of chippiness. Oh, yeah. Max Domi with the cross check is time expired. And now it looks like they hate each other, which I like.

That was a bad cross check. Here's what I'll say is this series has juice. Yeah, this this series is fun to watch. Big time. As'll say is this series has juice. Yeah. This, this series is fun to watch big time. As Hank, as a casual hockey watcher and enjoyer, the caps Kane series, is there any juice there at all? No, no juice in it. No, I need something exciting. What scares me about this, this matchup too, is it seems, it feels like the hurricanes get as many chances short handed as Caps do on the power play. The Canes get so, they are always looking to break out, which makes you nervous when

you're on the power play. It's a very uncomfortable team to play against. Yeah. Last series, I just, my only thing is the Jets aren't going to win this series because Hellebuck on the road stinks. Yeah. He gave up five goals. He's just not good on the road. Did they bench him? They did not bench him, but they should bench him

Yeah Because he's not good on the road and the stars are really good. Rantin is continuing to stay on fire I think he had a system a goal. He had two assists in a goal. Yeah He's just he's in the zone. We got a yantz off. We gotta talk. And Dallas does look like a confirmed good hockey town too. Yeah. I like the green bracelets that they hand out to everybody. It feels kind of like you're in a strip club. And this is one of those situations,

I know this is stupid to judge your sports this way, but I do. Like the Stars fans had to deal with Luca being traded. Right. And the Cowboys. I'm not going to, if I'm going to root for any Dallas sports success, it would be the stars. What about the Rangers? Rangers don't really care. It was kind of cool when they won the series. Yeah, it was. But I'm just saying like, I don't, yeah. Did they play against the series? They played

against. Was that the Diamondbacks? Yes. Yeah. That was when the Diamondbacks yes, yeah, I was when the Fillies show yeah and gave up a three one lead in the NLC. That's crazy that the Diamondbacks were in the three one one Dude, who cares that happens all the time not at the bank. Those are those are not the same not whatever I don't know why am I defending that wait what I mean Hank just tried to compare three one to three two like they're the Same thing three one, But that's what... 3-1 is bad. Really bad at the bank. Correct. That was match overalls.

I look ridiculous. I did see that. Kyle Schwab or sneaky MVP? People should start talking about it. Media should start talking about it. National sports podcast? National sports podcast, start talking about it. Kyle Schwab or MVP leading the league in home runs.

Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just something to think about. Just league in home runs. Just something to think about. Just something to

think about. Uh, you guys want to talk a little football? Cause I got a couple of things. Yeah, I got, I got one thing. Yeah. Derek Carr retired. He did retire. Yeah. So I, I tweeted out that I I'm going to be sad and I understand people the majority of the reaction was like dude who cares If he's on your team, you don't like him like he's he's just good enough to just piss you off One we're a little biased as we actually enjoyed our interview with Derek Carr very much to Derek Carr is in that camp. He's like a He's like a half a version of Philip Rivers Do you know what I mean? Like he's you know what you're getting from Derek Carr and he will provide you with some funny moments.

And that is worth something to me. A guy that's been around that long. Yeah. That is consistent. Yeah. There's, there's value in that NFL fan. And he'll do like, he'll make a weird face. He'll have the mascara.

He'll throw his funny interception. He'll also throw like a perfect drop it in a bucket touchdown. He'll like dive into a guy when it's he's scrambling for a first down and it's like third and 12 and he's gotten seven yards and it'll just dive into a guy and get injured. He'll cover spread against the chiefs. He'll really try to get you that, that first down that was impossible to get. So I'm going to miss him. And he did have That stretch of his from like I think was 2014 15 16 He was good. He was good

And it's just I also wonder is he fully retired? I don't know so he's he just trying to not play on the same. I think he's just trying to not have surgery Okay, he's just avoiding surgery at any cost, which is very relatable. I also think this helps the Saints because he's I saw he was taking his bonus this year, but it's going to help them overall in the cap. You would have liked to probably know this. Well, I was gonna say you would have liked to know before the draft, but you drafted quarterback anyways. Maybe you would have liked to know this before free agency. Yeah, that's the one thing you can say. But if you're, Hey, if you're looking for a Derek car replacement, Atlanta has got a perfectly good Derek car replacement just sitting on the bench.

Maybe the most Derek car replacement that there is. Kirk Hudson's a little better than Derek. But yes, I agree. But he's like the upgrade. Yeah. It's like finally tuned. Yeah. Derek car, but yes, I agree. But he's like the- Yeah, he is. He's a upgrade. Yeah. Like, finely tuned Derek Carr. Yeah. If he's healthy, he's waiting in Atlanta. I would agree.

Pick up the phone. I would agree. Although they probably wouldn't trade him in the division, would they? Definitely not to the Saints. I think they maybe would. Really? I feel like the hatred between the Falcons and the Saints is high enough where you're just, you're not going to do a deal.

Are you though- For a starting quarterback? So I agree on paper what you're saying. Do you think the Falcons are scared of Kirk cousins? If they do trade them, that tells you a lot. How about that one? That's what I'm thinking. That's the take. Like I think there could be a chance that that phone gets picked up because they're like, Hey, he's not going to hurt us. I think that they are, they might be afraid of a cousin scorned. I would be a Kirk cousins revenge tour. I Kirk cousins still has a couple of moments left. Oh, for sure.

I mean, yeah, if he's healthy. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, I'm going to be sad. Derek Carter was like a dependable guy. We can joke about. Yep. And so when you lose, don't you agree? It's like 40% of a Philip Rivers Yeah, I mean he was never as hilarious as Phil no no no the 40% in play and in hilarity

Yeah, and he was a guy that he played for some very dysfunctional front offices. Yep, and he was pretty cool about it He didn't really say anything publicly. Oh seems like a he had like every opportunity to do that But you could see it the way that he he wore on his face and shoulders during games. Some of those Raiders games, he'd come to the sideline and you would almost feel bad for Derek Carr. Yeah. All right. What was your story? I was going to say big story. It's schedule release week. Yeah, this week. Yeah. And it is truly a week long event, Big Cat. Yep. Because even though we found out when the schedule release was going to be during the schedule release release during the NFL draft It appears that they're trickling out some of the games for us. Okay, so on Monday We're gonna get at least one game on the Today show that they're going to oh hell Yes, we know we know Chiefs Chargers on Fox. I saw the league

We're gonna get one on the leak of commanders dolphins in Spain Is that real? That's I I just saw the leak. I heard that most vamos don't they have in that ban? Yeah in Barcelona. Yeah in Barcelona Jayden Daniels. Oh congrats Barcelona one today. Yeah, fuck that My friend text me is like we're back on Barcelona day, right? I was like, how are they the Champions League isn't even over text me is like, we're back on Barcelona day, right? I was like, how are they? The champions league isn't even over. What league is this? I wish they did. I, I'm going to say I don't like how they're doing this. Uh, PFT. I don't like that they're, they're slowly trickling out the schedule. I would prefer if the NFL, instead of telling us when the schedule comes just one day we wake up and they hit us with a surprise schedule. Yeah. Cause then you

wouldn't have leaks. So it is in madrid That's the leak Okay, I should go there with frank. So it's a week now I just want the schedule So, uh, yeah, we're gonna get another game on fox on monday. We're gonna get a prime video announcement on monday That's today as the show comes out then Tuesday On good morning america. We'll get another one and then wednesday then Wednesday on CBS and Netflix, they'll be announcing some of them.

All right. So we have a new goal on Netflix. We need to someday. The Netflix. Sorry. The Netflix game is going to be. We need to someday have the NFL respect us so much that we get to release a game. One game. One game. Titans Jaguars. I'll take the worst game you got. Give us a Titans Jaguars game and we'll release it.

Uh, all right. So when is the actual release is Wednesday? I believe so. Okay. So on Friday's show, when we tape on Thursday, we'll do a, uh, uh, Mount Rushmore of games of the 2025 season. Yeah. I like that.

Max, uh, Max is not a schedule release guy. He hates the schedule release. Max doesn't like football. But he doesn't... You know who you play. You fail to understand... No, but it's how it lines up, dude. The schedule release is for fans to look at and get really fucking mad that the league screwed them over

because they have to play, like, three road games in December. And you get to go win-loss, win win, loss, all the way down the list. Yeah. But you know who you play and where you play them. No, no, no. But it's all because no, because when you do the actual schedule, if you're like, you can't, you know, when you're, it's all art to it, where it's like, if you do three wins in a row, you're going to have to throw a loss in there.

Mm-hmm. And you get to complain because if you're like the Niners, oh we have to play two East Coast games in a row I wonder if we're gonna stay at the Greenbrier. This is a thing for shitty teams to get excited about. Yep. Thank you, Hank Yeah, Max. You can our back Max. You just have to keep winning, right? Oh Right Max, I didn't I did not say we keep winning You don't know when you're gonna want to play like I want to know when the Bears are playing like Thursday and Monday night games We're gonna have every one of our games are gonna be primetime. I bet you you won't Okay

One will probably have max you do play opening day, right Thursday night probably Season off usually the Super Bowl winner does I think I think they might do it. I Think it might be me and you opening night PFT How on a scale one to I'm gonna be one to this is bullshit and disrespectful What if it was Eagles Cowboys? They might do that. Yeah, would that be bullshit and disrespectful? No, I don't want to play opening night. Okay. Yeah. Open night would be fun for the show. night would be fun for the show It would be great for the show great for the show. I think there's a good chance

It's it's the cowboys just because no, I it's the dallas cowboys But commanders makes more sense just off of jayden danis like cowboys are a bummer. Yeah, but they're the cowboys They are the cowboys But then you don't know now that i'm saying it there will it'll be the commanders because they'll save the cowboys for sunday night Football. Yeah, you know what I mean? They'll just hit that one. What are you looking up max? We play the Chiefs again. They could just run that back Lions They could do play the Bears. Yeah, I think maybe maybe the Lions. Oh

Yeah, Lions could make sense All right, My other NFL news was I just love this part of the season, the mini camp season, where every draft pick looks awesome. You have guys you know, tackles getting into their set, not blocking anyone. Everyone's like, look, look at them move their feet. You have stretches even like, look out, look how deep he gets in that lunch. I watched a clip of Abdul Carter doing a drill work. And I was like, look at this speed. It's fucking insane. He should be wearing number 56. Yeah, we have QBs

with, you know, no pass rush, throwing the ball. She do her Sanders out there throwing the ball. Sure Sanders being the last one off the practice last one off the practice field. But my favorite thing from this week of mini camps where everyone is in love with every pick and everyone looks awesome. And this is how sports should work. Like you should have maximum excitement. Uh, Brian Dable is, this was a quote from J Fowler ESPN. Brian Dable is really excited about this guy talking about Jackson Dart. More excited about him than really any other quarterback since Josh Allen that he's worked with. So just

so we're clear, Brian Dable is more excited about Jackson Dart than he was to work with Daniel Jones, Davis Webb, Drew Locke, Tommy DeVito and Tyrod Taylor. And Jamis. Well, he yeah, I guess he has a they there. He's working with both of them right now. And Russell, I definitely Russell more excited to work with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, but yeah, the the list that he's had in the past, I guess year one, Daniel Jones, he was probably a little bit excited about maybe a little excited, but you got to

be excited. Fresh, fresh lump of clay. Yeah Yeah mold into what you want them to be. Yeah Oh, the we didn't draft it in Jones right did he know so he inherited. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, but he's more excited Obviously the person he's excited. Yes, correct and he drew and also he's more excited about Jackson's art than a list of shitty quarterbacks that he Actually, no distracted Tommy to be you Tommy. Mm-hmm And then the last NFL thing did you guys see Anthony Richardson's tattoo? that he actually no disrespect to Tommy. Tommy. Tommy. And then the last NFL thing, did you guys see Anthony Richardson's tattoo? No, but let me look it up real quick.

I didn't, apparently he really loves gambling because he got a giant roulette wheel on his back and he had to be put under for this tattoo. Got like temporarily euthanized for it. There's cards, there's a roulette wheel His it was anti-rich and sit on McAfee show. He was put to sleep We're getting a back tattoo this offseason seven hours for artists This thing is sick. I know it is say yeah

He yeah, it's his love of football and gambling Gambling yeah, we should get that might get this tattoo the NFL shield. Why that lion? Gladiators his name just in case anyone forgets That's important. I love that. He's got a huge fan of the four aces. That's dope Yeah, and who are the four aces again? Four aces are Patrick Reed Harold Varner. Yeah. And, uh, Peters, Thomas Peters. Yep. Okay.

Banging. First time. Got it. No, that is a sick tattoo. I have a take and that's if you get sedated for, you shouldn't get sedated for a tattoo as a man. Yeah. As, and I say this as kind of a low-key tattoo addict big guy you say same way I would never gonna get another one this week. I would never get sedated for a tattoo

Is that okay with you Hank? I'll don't worry. I'll wear my sweatshirt, so you don't have to see it my black sweatshirt Fashion police coming at me like fuck you wearing the same fucking shit as me we think about Tatum's tattoos I think that is sick tattoo so much aura. Mm-hmm So much or he also has his name on his back does he have Cards and roulette. Wait, doesn't he have a weird trophy? What? What did he get? Oh, no What did he get him holding the Larry O'Brien? No, it was something else. What is it? Is it the all star MVP? What is it? Is that right? He's got a lot of tattoos. Is it the all star

MVP? Hey, I don't know which tattoo you're pretty sure he has. Y'all sorry. I just have a vague memory of him getting a tattoo of, so posted on a Snapchat that he got an All-Star game MVP tattoo. Oh man, Hank. That's aura. Oh no. He's got Kobe's number. Oh yeah. Picket. Here it is. Yep. That's the All-Star MVP who the most illustrious award in all sports. Well, it's the Kobe Bryant. Oh, that's the name of the ah, oh so respect Kobe. Yeah, he just got so he could text it

To him. Oh, it's a snake. Oh, no, that's the Someone said mine is better. Oh it is snake. Okay Did you guys see all right? Let's do who's back the week. Let's do his back We got a couple of them Who's back of the week is brought in after who's back the week let's do his back we got a couple of them who's back of the week is brought in after who's back we are after Rachel Nichols we're gonna do Jordan of the week and max has gifts for us god hank personally requested that we do Jordan of the week uh who's back the week is brought to you by truly truly unruly lemonade combines the high alch fun

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That keeps happening to him, right? Yeah. He's getting misquoted, misrepresented, but he basically like Got a bunch of money on sports and a bunch of injuries No a bunch of injuries and and he was asked to play first base He's interview saying I don't know what the hell the GM's thinking like Saying he's essentially not gonna move to first base translation

Was more like, you know, he's like, I know I'm a ball player. I know I'm supposed to be able to play positions. It's just not that easy. But then he's since gone seven for 12. Had a go head home run today. Didn't this happen in spring training too? Kind of when we signed Bregman, he was like, I'm not switching position. And then he did it again? No, but then we went through the interview and then Hank said, no, he's not.

He's saying I He wasn't saying that he refuses to switch positions got it But he did it again recently the recent ones is the one I'm talking about where the quote he just doesn't You just he was saying he was told in spring training to put away your glove You're gonna be DHing obviously injuries happen. They're like, hey, you might need to play first base. He was kind of like gonna be DHing obviously injuries happen like hey you might need to play first base and he was kind of like No, he's like I put away my glove. Yeah got it, but that's you know make up your mind to put away his glove Yeah, they're flip-flopping got it, but now he's raking so haters silenced Haters all the haters. Yeah

Seems like that. He's just he's creating the haters by doing dumb quotes Well the train the trade the media is is misquoting them translation the media Is a major all here media bank job, okay? My who's back of the week is guys who play a lot of golf that think that they can dunk Yeah, I had that as well. So Harry Higgs they call him big rig, right? Yeah He said I am of the belief that well this he's gone to our rain delay So that he was like what you guys thought what you do during the rain delay Mm-hmm, and he said he got in a heated discussion with his caddy

Yeah, he was telling his caddy that if he gets I think two years of training he can dunk He said I am of the belief that I and anybody you can train yourself to do anything I think somebody brought up a marathon. I think a marathon will be easier and I know looking at me that sounds ridiculous I've been getting stronger in the gym more explosive hit the ball further start to hit it further. I said it in passing It's not a couple years. I think I could do it within a decade. He's 33. I think he can do it. He's right I think this guy can do it. I think that it how do you think 31? I think Harry Higgs if he believes that he can dunk soon 32 yeah I believe that he can with training he can figure out how to dunk yeah I believe in this degree I

agree he's right you're close to being old yeah now I'm there and how I was flip this on you so I was I was on the East Coast like furious so you're even about how the games were on yeah So i think he can dunk too i think he can do also i think he's six two oh Which helps hey what are you six five ten six feet yeah i mean you got close to what they should be 32 I'm six oh six feet That sucks max you like silver max i've felt like I've been 30 for the past three years. You're also No, I'm not gonna say you're gonna say my body is like no no no that's actually not what I was gonna say Your look is that of a

older man That's the same thing no it's not some people like that one. No. I don't think I know. That's not that's not. I think with the soul patch, you look like you're 21. You look older. If you really want to. If you want to like, you know, I don't care about it. I don't care about if you want to embrace your youth, shave the beard. Nah, soul patch. I got grays in the beard, which is nice. But what I love about this Harry Higgs thing is that he it was literally the exact same debate with Hank of like running A marathon or yeah, he's like yeah dunk. Yeah, dunking is easier. Duncan's ways. I believe him. I believe Harry Higgs Not sure you could easily run a marathon Yeah, you could easily run a marathon

Actually, yes, not fast, but I could who cares you do a marathon tomorrow people run marathons in six hours Would you say I can run a marathon tomorrow? Yeah, like run one run the entire time Yeah, like 15 minute pace, but yeah That's walking. I Don't think you could run a marathon What's the definition of running people do run marathons in like six hours? And then they and then they post on Instagram like did it like no you didn't Six hour marathon is not doing it. I think it would have to be

12 minute mile or better that counts as running a marathon Sub five I'm gonna tell you what I'm not doing like I have no interest in running a marathon, but I could I Respect how confident are you in the Celtics win this series? extremely oh If they don't win you gotta run a marathon and if they do max soul patch Yeah, I asked Max I think the Celtics are gonna win Soul patch all right, so if we don't we'll pull through a marathon me max nope. Yeah, no no Wait, then you would you guys equally think they're gonna win the series

You want me rooting for the Celtic Hanks? Yeah, actually yeah, no no Celtic Celtic max was funny I don't remember why that came up. I forget why that came up, but it was very well. That was last year. Yeah Whatever ah all right my who's back the week. I have a couple Theranos is back. Yeah, she is cuz Elizabeth Holmes is in prison, but she is consulting with her husband on a new startup and part of the new startup is Apparently a blood droplet that can tell like how healthy you are.

Yeah, it's a good great idea. They're literally running a game. Yeah, it's incredible. I want to see what she cooks up. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. I'll be honest, I am I can't get enough of everything that you like all all these fraud stories. Yeah, the best I love the fraud stories.

Yeah. So the it's the article says the technology can also conduct diagnostic tests using a small sample of blood Okay, just literally running it back again. She was just her only crime was being like five years too soon. Yeah. Yeah, so Yeah, it's it's fire fest too. Yeah, that's what they're doing My other who's back is the Rockies because they fired Bud Black so back So they lost 21 and nothing against the Padres on Saturday night Before that game the GM of the Rockies because they fired Bud Black so back so they lost 21 to nothing against the Padres on Saturday night Before that game the GM of the Rockies Said guys are working hard every day. They come with energy for the most part

I don't think we were at the point of firing Bud Black Guys will still believe in what we're doing and then we're headed and where we're headed. We're all frustrated They lost 21 to nothing to the Padres they fired but black that idiot Dick Monfort then had a basically release a statement just being like why are the boys coming in here we got Jordan of the week they jumped the gun they love being on camera they do the Rockies owner Dick Monfort said our place so far this season especially coming off last two seasons has been unacceptable Our fans deserve better and we are capable better. Are you dude? This just seems to me like He was having a bad time coaching a bad team

And so they said we the some of the players and him aren't getting along great So we're gonna fire him in hopes that they like the next guy a little bit better. They did win on Sunday Yeah, they got their seventh win of the season. It is May 11th they got their seventh win of the season. So they're there seven of the seed. I'm pretty sure the Dodgers had seven wins One weekend Yeah, I mean nothing's gonna change. No, with this bad, really bad. We got to start betting against them. You make make some good money. Make some good money. Take away all their pinstripes. Yeah, we should do alternate

lines, too. Because I feel like every night they lose like, 10 to one. It's crazy. Maybe this is a new thing. Historically, he's not he's not a terrible manager outside of what he's done with Rockies, correct And the Rockies the owner dick Monfort being like we're all trying to find out how this happened. It's you dude Yeah, you're the piece of shit. Also, Nico Harrison's a piece of shit. I said that I would say that once It's a good reminder. So also the spheres back. I went this weekend. It was awesome. You guys got it does seem pretty incredible. It was It was awesome. I've had so many random people that I'm like friends with just ask me out of nowhere

Have you been to the sphere yet? Like it's a place that I have to go It's it was awesome and shout out all the AWLs I saw sorry if All I could do is take a picture and not have a conversation My head was full of mushrooms had a couple weird encounters But I think also is like I think they also had their was full of mushrooms. I had a couple weird encounters. But I think also is like I think they also had their heads full of mushrooms. So but it was a lot of people that I talked to maybe not talk to more like, Hey, like that. I made a sound. Yeah, yeah. And did a fist bump. This

is crazy. A picture. Yeah. Isn't this awesome? But yes, it is very awesome. That's the look in your eye you get when Aaron Rogers wins MVP. Yeah, this is the mushrooms. Yeah. It was it was sick though. Mayor. Awesome. Whole thing is awesome. You guys got to go to the sphere. I gotta go. I'm down. Who else is playing at the sphere? Kenny Chesney. Backstreet Boys. We need Bill. Billy strings. Backstreet Boys. We need Bill. Billy Strings? Think he can sell out the Sphere?

Yeah. By the way, Vegas? How many? How many? 20,000. Vegas, a 48 hour Vegas trip. I've done this now two years in a row going on the Sphere. It's the best.

I, like, that's how you do it. Just fly in Friday, fly out Sunday morning. It's it's the best I like that's how you do it. Just fly in Friday fly out Sunday morning. It's great. It's I'm back on in on Vegas. I was out on Vegas for a little bit. I'm back in on Vegas So sure you have like an itinerary, right? I want to announce. Yeah with a show It's I went to a couple I went to a nice dinner. I called I got a cabana good meal I mean, I maximize my 48 hours dream. Yeah, it was a great 48 hours in Vegas So the Eagles are playing there. Yeah Eagles. I feel like if I'm gonna go to the sphere though I don't want to go for dad. Yeah. Yeah next year. I hopefully they do one more year

I think they will are they done for this year. They have one more weekend and then they might add shows, but I don't know If they had shows me we'll go I would go I would go to the sphere to see the Eagles with Chris Berman I Would also be a great time. Yeah, okay. Let's get to our interview with Rachel Nichols before we get to Rachel Nichols She's brought to you by McDonald's all new McRispy strips new McRispy strips are here It's chicken that's made for dipping tender juicy juicy, white meat chicken with golden brown, peppery breading. It's chicken. So good. It deserves its own sauce. The creamy chili, the crispy strip dip, a sauce that's creamy, savory and sweet with a little heat, but it works with any of their sauces.

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probably don't have an answer, but I still want to hear what you have to say. Are we going to see Steph Curry again in these playoffs? So, uh, in the last game, you know, Ant talks a lot of trash, right? And he's trying to go at it with Gary Payton Jr. and all this stuff. And he's like, you're just trying to get to a game six, so Steph can come save you. And GP is like, yeah, that's it. Yes. So it was going to be evaluated on a Monday. It does not sound like he would play the next game. Maybe they've got a three day rest break after that, but yeah, I don't know if they're going to get that far. What do you think? Yeah, I don't know. It's, it seems like they're, they're pulling all the levers that they can where they're getting like everybody involved,

trying out every single possible combination of guys to run out there just to see if something works. If they can maybe steal a game. I thought that they were going to do this strategy of trying to steal one of these next couple and then get to the three day break. And it just sucks because like watching the Warriors without Steph, it turns out he's really damn good and they kind of need him because I think they, I think they were, I think I saw a stat that they were like the first team in the NBA playoffs who were leading at half without making a three or something last night. It's amazing for the warriors, right? Right. Right. So it's just totally different. I want to see the best players play. All right.

So that was a bummer that you gave me that answer. I was hoping you were like, yeah, you know what? He's playing on Monday night. This is going to be awesome. I find that very hard to believe. The other thing about that series and I saw you tweeting about it as well. Julius Randall has been, he might be like the best change of scenery guy ever because what he's done with the wolves, I mean you've, you've talked to people in the league, like is he as beloved as it seems in that locker room and how, how seamlessly he's fitting cause it was raw. It was rough to start, but now he's so, so good for them. I'm so happy for him. He's a great guy.

First of all, I've always liked talking to him. You know, the trade happened. It was definitely disconcerting for him, his family, all of that stuff. It didn't start out while in Minnesota and then he got hurt. And in that time off, I think it gave him a minute to sort of settle and kind of know how the team works. And the whole time the guys in the room were just pumping him up. Anthony Edwards, oh, we need him.

Wait till Julie's Ramo gets back, all that stuff. And now I was with the Timberwolves last week. He's like the mayor in there a lot of the time. And it's just so fun to see like a good person doing well, beloved by the people who should love him. And I couldn't be happier for him. I think he's great. Yeah.

Yeah. It looks like Minnesota probably has the upper hand, especially if Steph isn't coming back. Turns out Steph Curry is important if you want to play baseball. Very important. Very, very important. Who knew? So the other series in the West, what is it about the Nuggets and the Thunder that each team is capable of making the other

team the worst version of themselves? Yeah. Yeah. That was a nice game today. Right. It was gross. Or two points in the first quarter. It was, it was funny watching that game because there will be people who complain about the scoring getting out of control in the NBA. And then you watch a game like that, like, you know, people like, Oh, I missed nineties basketball. And then you watch that where no one came to three. You're like, yeah, I'd rather, I'd prefer seeing the games in the one twenties. It sounds so fun. We're kind of getting a little nineties basketball back though, because they're calling nothing. Yeah. Right. Which I like. Yeah. I like, but it was, it was mostly like about the air balls in the first half. I haven't seen that many

air balls in an NBA game in a long, long time. For some reason they say each team sees the other team. They're like, yeah, the shots just aren't going to fall. See, I thought you're going to make an off color joke with the airballs, but look at you. No, I mean, it's ridiculous. And the guys are buying each other around and just, you know, kind of really doing that. A lot of these guys have free rain and you don't see it the moment the shot comes off, but you see it right before that. And then it sort of sets the guy up to not have his correct shot. I mean, there's definitely an expression in basketball. Hey, they can't call them all. So if you just keep going and failing and failing and failing, eventually the refs are going to be, yeah, that one wasn't so bad.

And I think we're seeing a lot more of that in these playoffs. And we're seeing that in that series. Yeah. And it's clearly bothered. Yo, kitchen. He hasn't played to his standard, which is not, it's unfair how good he is. And then when he has like 20 and 13, everyone's like, damn, he sucks now. But the last two games he has, yeah, he got, he got, you know, his teammates kind of picked him up on Friday night in the overtime win. And then tonight he was not good and he missed two big free throws. And it's like, I don't know, he's gotta be great for them to be great. Do you have an MVP vote? I do. And who'd you vote for? I actually voted for Shay. It was a very, very, very hard vote. I mean, it really came down to like this.

And the this it came down to because Jokic is, I think, I think Jokic is the best player in the world. So the this it came down to was, the Thunder had 18 more wins than the Nuggets. Right. And at some point, I don't always vote for the guy who's the highest in the standings, but at some point that matters, right? And to lead a young team to those kinds of numbers,

I was really impressed. I still think there should be a separate award for who the best player is in the NBA, because we don't have one. And it's funny, I filled out my awards ballot this year, and I had to choose, guys, I had to choose who the ninth best rookie in the NBA was this year. My role in the record books for all time on who in 2025 was the ninth best

rookie that's going down in the books, but not who the best player was. And there's, you know, years, it's MJ. There's years it was LeBron and they didn't win the MVP every time. And it's just sort of strange to me because there's already kids out there who've never seen Jordan play and just downplay everything. He didn't, he wasn't that good. Kind of like our generation does with Kareem a lot of the time. And, you know, all we have in the end is the record books and the record books are going

to show that Kobe Bryant won one MVP. And he obviously had a huge impact on the league. I just, I don't know why we don't have an award for this. The NFL differentiates between MVP and offensive and defensive player. The NHL has MVP and then the scoring and the ball scoring, whatever we don't have that. It's true. We, especially now that we have like clutch player of the year, which I, you know, okay, you know, they do the clutch minutes analytics and everything, but like, why can't

we have a just like top dog or alpha of the year. Like just whoever was who's the best player and then the MVP can be something different where it's like, yeah, this guy brought his team to the most wins, most impactful on his team because I agree. There is, there's definitely a difference to those two things. We have one on part of my take. We just actually created it right now, right? This very second. So who gets your vote? What do you mean? Oh, for that award, top dog. Top dog. Top dog. Yeah. And by the way, let's just call it that.

Perfect. Yeah. Top dog award. Nikola Jokic. I mean, if you had to play a basketball game for the lives of yourself and everyone you know, and you had one pick of who the player was going to be on your team, and everyone else was random assignment, who would you pick? I like that. I like that criteria. Your family's been kidnapped, and you can only pick one guy to be gonna be on your team and everyone else was random assignment who would you pick? I like that I like that criteria your family's been kidnapped and

you can only pick one guy to be the captain of your team that's the top dog in here. Well I mean you're pretty close if you get Jokic's brothers. Yeah that's true. He's so tall. I've sat with him before and watched the game. Yeah. Actually we did we did a bad job when talking about Golden State We should try to just correct the narrative if we do need to correct it has has Draymond Green gotten a bum rap All these years is he actually a really nice guy that plays under control and us in the media We've done a bad job, and we've we've called him out for things that did not need to be called out for He is a really nice guy actually he's just not a very nice player right so and you gotta be careful by the way he's two technicals and for? He is a really nice guy actually. He's just not a very nice player. Right. So I need

to be careful by the way. He's two technicals and two, um, what's the other one? Uh, not tax flagrants, flagrants. He's been doing that. I don't know why my brain is not here today. Uh, blaming on the mimosas on mother's day. Yeah. Happy mother's day and two flagrants from a suspension. That's what everyone forgets about the 2016 finals when he was suspended for a game and the Cavs turned it around. He wasn't suspended because of what he did on the floor when, we all know what happened with the punching and the this and the that, he was suspended because it just hit a certain limit.

Right. By the way, once you reach that point, not only are you suspended for the next game, then it goes in every other way. They do somehow make it out of this round. I mean, he could miss every other game if he keeps this up. Right. I just think he'd be happy to do if Steph wasn't playing because you I think it's cool with that. Yeah. Could you imagine if they if it reset that that would dude have to make a rule to change it for the Dreymon because he would just try to fly through it. Yeah, like as fast as possible I Can't remember That's right, I forgot Rashid had that many texts Listen, I get it from from Dreymon to like you have to sometimes you just got to say shit

You know, you just kind of have to defend yourself a little bit. And so I think he, he tried to do that, but anybody out there can watch him play and be like, not no one else, no one else's body flails in the same way that Draymond Green's body flails. And it's got to be him problem at some point. Yeah. Yeah. He's super theatrical. He just doesn't have control of his body, even though he's a world-class athlete. What is it though? The thing that we were talking about the other day with Draymond, the refs feel like it feels like he gets away with a lot, not of like when he flails his body, but when he talks to the refs, it does feel like he gets away

with way more than everyone else because they just, I don't know what they, they just don't want to deal with him. What is that? He totally does. And it goes back to what I said a few minutes ago. You can't call them all right. You can't kick them out of every game. He's a popular player. He's integral to that team. He's obviously a former defensive player of the year. I think eight time all defense can't call them all. So, you know, he goes at it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I got a non-playoff question for you. All right. Giannis is going to be playing for what team next year?

Oh, man. Where do I want him to be playing? I'd like him to still play Milwaukee, because I'm sensitive as hell. My second choice of where he would be playing, you know, the three teams that have the most assets to get him are the Houston Rockets, the San Antonio Spurs, and the Oklahoma City Thunder, which is crazy.

So can you imagine him next to SGA or next to Wemby? I think if he becomes available, those GMs that have been keeping their picks, they're gonna pull the trigger and I think that Thunder actually have the most of all. Yeah, we'll see who's willing to give up what? Yeah, I'm a sentimentalist. I love to have the people in Milwaukee love him. I love how he loves the city. He can't win there unfortunately because they're so tied up with their not having their draft picks and salary and whatever. If he decides to stay, it would really be just a commitment to, Hey, I know we're not

going to win another title, but I'd like to be here. Yeah. And what happens with the Bucks if he does decide to do that? Is their future just straight up, they're going to be really, really, really, really bad for five, six years? Well, they won't be really, really bad. You know, they'll be like a first round playoff team, or a plain playoff team, which is kind of, you know, with a fully loaded team, is what they've been the last couple of seasons because you know This year Damon was hurt and out for a while

Giannis was out last season didn't finish at playoffs and I think the season before he was out for a while. So They've gotten screwed by injuries and and my thing about you know trading for future picks is That you you give away a guy who is still in his prime, who is key to the franchise. Because there's people out there, by the way, saying that the bucks should trade Yanis even if he doesn't ask for a trade. That's a very popular NBA person opinion right now. And the idea is like, oh, he's got two years left

on his deal, you could get a whole bunch of graphics for him, you gotta do it now, pull the trigger now. I get it, but you also have Yanis and Scubo on your team. And he to do it now. Pull the trigger now. I get it. But you also have Yannis Tsukubo on your team and he fills the building, butts in the seats. People love watching him. He's got a great connection to the community. And if you trade him for a bunch of draft picks, you're hoping that what,

three years from now you draft a guy who maybe one day becomes not quite as good as Yannis Tsukubo. Yeah. If he wants to go, God bless. I totally understand. He has said he thinks he needs another title to sort of represent the player that he is. And if he asks out, he's been loyal to that team. He's played there for a dozen years. He got them a championship. Godspeed. But if he doesn't want to leave, I don't agree with this sort of NBA thing, uh, push them out the door anyway. Well, and you're, you're right. Like it's there. They won't be really bad if they keep

be honest. They'll win 42 to 45 games and you know, it will, they, they won't really contend for a title because they will, he won't have peace around them, but you can't be bad with the honest on your team. Cause he's that good. It is, it's a, it's a tough situation because you don't, yeah. I wonder what like most bucks fans, I think most bucks fans would prefer to keep Yannis, but there's obviously the part where you said like, if you, if you trade him, you're going to probably be bad for a while. If you keep them, you're going to at least have, you know, a playoff team and Yannis is a lot of fun to watch. Yeah. So you know we'll see

what he decides. Obviously he's the he's the he's the first down there that has to fall another one non NBA playoffs because I saw you comment on this LeBron should take less money. I agree with you. Is there any chance LeBron takes less money because like LeBron is still a very good player. I was making this argument when they got bounced in the playoffs. I don't think you can pay a 41 year old LeBron $50 million and expect to have the roster that you need to compete. You saw the roster of the Lakers. They didn't have a center. Uh, you got to build the team around Luca. And if you're going to build their team around Luca, you need some flexibility. So is there any chance that he takes less money

and what is less money if, if he were to do that? Yeah. I mean, it's a little complicated with the salary cap and if he took the lead minimum, it would still only free up by, I don't know the number, maybe $10 million for them extra, but $10 million is not a little bit of money when you're trying to fill NBA salary slots. And I just think that he's the most underpaid athlete total in the world right now. Nobody has done as much for a league much less the teams he's played for than LeBron James. He's responsible for the level of popularity that the game is at

right now. He will never be paid enough. So if you realize he's just gonna be underpaid either way, if you know that he is a billionaire and I don't count other people's money and he should do what he wants to do. I can only put myself in that position. If it were me, I would say I will take significantly less, as less as it helps basically, to make sure that we get other people in here who can help us win. Because here's the thing, you can't buy a championship ring after you retire. All that money, it's gonna go to your grandchildren's,

grandchildren's grandchildren, once you're a billionaire. So he's not gonna feel any difference in his life. But here's what he will feel if he wins another ring with Luke on the team, himself on the team, and maybe some other bigger star player on the team. Well, if he wins five years, you know who, five rings, you know who won five rings? Kobe Bryant.

And if he wins six rings, hanging around on the Luke train, we know how many guys, we know who? Five rings, you know who won five rings? Kobe Bryant. And if he wins six rings, hanging around on the Luka train, we know who the guy is who won six, right? This is Chicago. So you are counting, you're counting the bubble championship because we don't count that. I know, but have some tech. He's in the bubble, I can tell you who fucking counts. No, no, easiest championship.

She said rings, not championships. Yeah, that's true. It's a Mickey Mouse, I can tell you. No, no, no. She said rings, not championships. Yeah, that's true. It's a Mickey Mouse ring. The ring exists. Yeah, the ring does. You could find the ring somewhere. Yeah, like a ring pop is a ring, technically. Look, whatever you guys want to call it, if he gets more, I think that will change the way some of the people

predispose not to like him. I think it will kind of weaken some of their arguments. Absolutely. Just make them switch the goalposts. Yeah. And be like, he's not MJ. Yeah, we can be fluid. Yeah. No, you're, you're absolutely right. I've, I've taught this for a while. Like at the end of the career, like why wouldn't you, again, it's, it's hard to talk about someone else's money, but you would think that the, the legacy part and having that, like, especially if he won a ring as a 41 year old, uh, at the end of his career and you're like, holy shit, this guy just want to ring after being

in the NBA for 20 plus years. It's a hard argument to go against. I mean, it's literally what Tom Brady did. Yeah. He gave back a bunch of money so he could win another ring as an old guy. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. So who would, who would the Lakers try to get if hypothetically LeBron said, you know what? I'll take you can take 10 mil off my salary. Who do they go out there and get? They don't have the assets to go out and get a honest. They just don't have the draft picks They don't have the young players that people would want so that little fantasy Unless you know think I could never predicted the Luba trade

So I'm not gonna say never say never but I don't predict it the Luka trade, so I'm not going to say never say never, but I don't see it happening. So look, they need someone who's strong interior defender who also is a lob threat so that we can set up kind of the Luka, Derek Lively, like Allie situation. And frankly, on the wings, they need 3D players. And so right now they're saying, oh, Austin's off, Austin Reaves, he's off the table. We love him. He's like family. Everyone in the locker room loves him. It's true. LeBron loves him, X, Y, Z's off the, Austin Reeves, he's off the table. We love him. He's like family. Everyone in the locker room loves him.

It's true. LeBron loves him XYZ. LeBron loved Anthony Davis and out. They're going to have to trade Austin Reeves if they want the level of guys around Luca that they need. Because right now, if you're an opponent and you're coming down the court and you see Austin Reeves on one side and Luca on the other. It's like turnspiles. So like you get to choose which one you go through because they don't defend at the level

that you need defenders to be a lead in the league right now. Yep. I mean, that makes sense. Let's talk about the East real quick. The Celtics. Are the Celtics completely back? It feels like it feels like the Celtics are up three one right now based on how the last game went.

I haven't felt like the Celtics were like, like the Celtics, even 3-1 right now based on how the last game went. I haven't felt like the Celtics were like like the Celtics even when they were down 2-0 it weirdly felt like they were fun. Yeah. And you know New York didn't beat them all season. The Celtics were historically fluky and sort of missing so many three-point shots. And by the way we give the Knicks defense credit because McHale Bridges, Josh Hart, there's just so many guys who really stepped up in those two games. But the Celtics are, the Celtics, I mean, they just have all the pieces back that won that title last year. I think it'd be so fun as someone who lived in New York for 20 years, I think it would be so fun to see the Garden rocking through conference finals, maybe even in NBA finals. The outs

are not with them right now, even though they're up to one, but you know, who knows? For steps for Ziggas ends up being out for a while. Something else flukey happens. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. And while we're taping this, the Pacers are playing pretty much perfect basketball. They're up 80 to 39 on the Cavs at half. I respect the Pacers. There's so much fun to watch like could the Pacers go to the finals? Is it, is it crazy to start believing if you're Indiana? I know the Celtics are on paper better and they played last year and I think that was a sweep even though there was some very close games in there. The Pacers are fun. They play a fun style of basketball and they have, it just feels like they have a really solid rotation of guys who can all contribute night in night out. Yeah. I mean remember the Pacers had a lot of injuries in that series. Yeah. It's not

even really fair to think back on that. I love this basers team. You know it's funny when Tyrese Halliburton was named the most overrated player as voted by the players in the NBA. You guys talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK. So here's what's funny about that poll. The Athletic, which did the poll, to its credit, listed how many guys answered each question. There's about 450 guys in the NBA. Only 90 of them answered the question of who is the most overrated.

So less than a quarter of the guys in the league even answered the question. And then if you go with the percentage that voted for Halliburton and you do the math, first of all, it's weirdly like 12 and a half guys. I don't know how a half person player votes, but let's say it's 13, 13 guys. There's 13 guys in this league who think Tyrese Halliburton is overrated. That's it. That's all. So it could literally, it could literally just be the bucks. Cause they like, they hate each other.

It could be the guy who didn't make the Olympic team because Tyrese took that spot. I mean he could be hated by a guy. This is the pettiest league on earth. The pettiest. There is no more petty than this league, the NBA. So I don't know. I think he keeps bringing it up, overrated, overrate that. Right.

But he's an excellent player and even though the Cavs You know were so strong throughout the season when the Cavs went down to oh, I was like they're in trouble Whereas with the Celtics going out to I was like Yeah, the shots just have to start falling for them. That's that's really at the end of the day I like that theory though. It's like the Bucs and then let's say Jalen Brown I like that theory though. It's like the Bucks and then let's say Jalen Brown. They were the ones that said that Hal LaBertin is overrated and it doesn't make sense for, for players in the NBA to like poke the bear to like call a guy out who's still

playing and obviously like a dangerous player. Cause all you're going to do is make them better. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And look, Rick Carlisle is a great coach. They're so fast, great transition. They're really fun to watch. So if they're the ones who advance, it's gonna be fun Eastern Conference Finals either way. Yeah, so we also have the draft lottery tonight, Monday. Yeah.

A big night for our beloved Wizards. You know me, Rachel, I'm a massive Wizards fan. I eat, sleep, breathe the Wiz. This is the one, yeah, the cat you're running to capture right now, that's another story. But I feel like the Wizards, if they get flagged, I'm all the way back in as a fan, but it's probably not the most exciting place that he could potentially land for like the average NBA viewer.

Where, where do you think, like, if you're just a casual NBA fan, where do you think the, uh, the funnest place for Cooper flag to end up is? I mean, the most likely places are DC, Charlotte and Utah. Like actually in DC is kind of for him, if I was Cooper flag of those choices, I hope the Wizards get in a boom. That's true. Good point. DC is a great place to live. It's an international city. I cannot say the same for Charlotte. I cannot say the same for Utah.

And of course, if he went to Charlotte, he still have all those fans from Duke right there, but he's gonna play fans He'll be fine wherever he goes. It would be huge. You know, you know how long it's been Since the Wizards made a conference finals not one a title not made it to the finals Just made it to the conference. I think it's got to be at least the 80s, right? 1981 so that would be 44 years Right? Just pick a number. How many years? 1981. So that would be 44 years?

You're close. 46 years. 46 years. In 46 years. Yeah. It's been bad. It's a long time. But at least they have a plan that they're working on.

They just kind of floated along without really a plan for a long time. And the tank has worked beautifully. Jordan Poole and Kyle Kuzma were excellent players to pick up if you're trying to lose games And so they have a plan the plan worked and now we got a just trust that that stupid fucking lottery ball machine Even if they end up number two, I think they're in good shape I mean, we'll see they've drafted really, you know They're very smart and not the best draft last year and they've got this draft is a great draft and next year is a great draft and I wouldn't be surprised if they were in the lottery next

year. Yeah. And then they'll have a really good young team. What is what's the team? It's probably Philly but is there another team that you're like they can't win the lottery. This would be bullshit. I mean the funder. I don't know. I mean spurs spurs maybe spurs. Yeah. But if Philly wins it's going to be people are going to be so pissed because they did the whole process and then they had one year where everyone got hurt and they basically were like yeah we're just not going to try this year. Did a great job tanking. It's actually an art. There's some teams that cannot take the bulls do not know how to tank. And if Billy wins this is you'd be like, Oh man, people would be so mad. They'd think it's so rigged. Yeah. By the way, my thing

it could happen was for San Antonio, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They, I think they had some picks where if other teams had, had lost a couple of games at the very end of the season Yes, it was a possibility for the Thunder to get the number. Yeah, they're getting Janice. They'll be fine Yeah, yeah, they're getting Janice It's gonna be such bullshit with when SGA starts doing the little like dribble under the basket thing like Steve Nash used to do and then Just throw the ball right up in the air and Janice just dunks on everybody. Yeah, that's what's destined to happen That would be fun. It would be score on them. It would on everybody. Yeah. That's what's destined to happen. What about Wimby and Giannis? That would be fun.

I don't know how you'd score on them. It would be fun. Yeah. Well, 20 yards action? Wimby, Giannis, Cooper flag, just load them up. Do you know, is there anybody else in the draft? I know you're not, I don't know, you might be a draft person or not, but. I'm not a huge college basketball person.

So I just know that. I wait until the draft lottery happens. I wait until the draft happens. Then we see if he's on which team and we go from there. I know the top three or four guys maybe been five deep are considered really good. I know the top three or four guys maybe been five deep are considered really good. I know the top three or four guys maybe been five deep are considered really good. I know the top three or four guys maybe been five deep are considered really good. I know the top three or four guys maybe been five deep are considered really good. I know the top three or four guys maybe been five deep are considered really good. I wait until the draft lottery happens, I wait until the draft happens, then we see who's on which team and we go from there. I know the top three or four guys maybe mid-five deep are considered really good. I don't want to pretend that I know more than the guys who study this year round, but it's

a deep draft and I think there's going to be a lot of picks even throughout the first round that we're going to see. Giannis himself I think was a 15, 16 number pick. All I know is that Rutgers basketball was really, really good last year. That's why they've got so many players in the top five. I was going to look back and be like, how do they have two guys in the top five? That kid could end up on the Wizards easily. Both of them. Dylan Arbrandes Bailey. Yeah, they're both very good. Um, all right. So Rachel, I know that we're like halfway through the second round, but we're

going to just give you the chance right now to tell us your NBA finals and NBA final winner. Um, and so you, you get a little, you get to cheat a little bit because we are not that you would have picked any of the teams that are actually might've picked the Clippers. You're a bomber. You like bomber. I w we love bomber. How cool is that stadium by the way? It's the best stadium in the NBA by far. And he brought all these people, all these fans from the wall over to Denver for game seven. I mean, that's not the coolest man. I don't know if another owner of pro sports who would do something like that. And by the way, how much do you think he had to pay for those games? Seven seats? Yeah. Um, probably probably a lot. 500 a pop probably. Yeah. I mean, he's a good,

he's a cool guy. Like that's how I would own a team if I owned it. Yeah. He does rich, right? Like he does rich, right? It's kind of like, you know, when Mark Cuban came on the scene, everyone was like, Oh shit. It turns out Mark Cuban just had to change like how they, like the chairs in the locker room and everyone was like, Oh my God, this is incredible. No one's ever done this. But PlayStation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He, he read it. The locker room. He gave them like comfy leather office chairs and it was a PlayStation and that was it. Everyone's play. Everyone was like, Holy shit. The bad treat them. Right. All right. So, so what is your NBA finals

prediction and your winner? Well, this is crazy. Before the season I picked the Boston Celtics with the Boston Celtics down 2 to 1 in this series. I still think the Boston Celtics and there's no disrespect to the Knicks. And again I really do love this Knicks team. They're so much fun to root for and so much fun to watch but they're the best complete team and they just won last year all those guys have a ton of experience They have international experience so they can play in any way I think Joe Missoula is a completely capable coach and all the sort of noise around him is to sort of self expands You get very worried and likes to say things But I I just don't think the Celtics and of course if the Knicks win this great. I'm happy to be wrong. What about?

So you're sticking with the Celtics. Is Chris stops okay? This is so weird. And I talked to him about it. I was probably months, six weeks ago, whenever, but they don't know. At least when I spoke to him, they did not know what this was.

It was a virus, but there wasn't any sort of thing that they could identify and then treat. So they obviously are doing things to treat him, but there is nothing they have found so far that make it like go away and he'll never have to deal with it again. And it's bizarre. And this poor guy who's had all these injuries finally got to a place where he was pretty healthy and playing on a team where he was skills were really needed and

Now he's got this thing. He looked awful in game one and for a lot of game two, right? I mean he looked it was paler than the wall behind me. Yeah. Yeah It's just very bizarre. Is he truly like day to day? He'll wake up one morning feeling like shit one morning feeling great I'm not sure it's day to day because I assume that it sort of starts to come on or doesn't. Right. So I don't know if it's like every other day, he doesn't know how he's going to wake up. I think like, he'll start to feel a little bad and then feel a little worse and feel a little worse. But yeah, I mean, look, my, my,

my title winner prediction will be completely on the ropes if he can't significantly play in these playoffs because he is part of a gift in such a huge event. Yeah. All right. So who do you like out of the West? No one. No, I mean everyone.

I, I, That's actually the correct answer. Like no one in everyone. The defenders should be the pick out of the West, right? Because they were hand shoulders above everyone the entire season. They showed in the last game they played that having young legs really matters, right? They completely outplay Denver in the fourth quarter. And the fact that they can play so well on only a day's rest, there's a great stat. I have it here. So the Thunder, you know,

they're the youngest team in the NBA still. When they are just on one day's rest, they are a 17 point differential. They score 17 more points than the other team on one day's rest, they are a 17 point differential. They score 17 more points than the other team on one day's rest. I mean, it helps to have young legs, man. And I just sort of think that they've, they've rocked it, they've shown it. And I don't know if there's someone else who can beat them, but we'll see. I'm not as confident on that side of the bracket. And I think a lot of who comes out of the West is just basically who ended up seated with you. Yeah. Yeah. Today they said that they call Alex Caruso onk. He's on in the locker room and he's 31 years old. Yeah, that's the youngest onk ever. That's very tough. Yeah. Yeah. Bad news. That

doesn't make me feel good. No, not at all. Alex Caruso. All right. I got one last question for you, Rachel. It's a row back question. R H O B A C K.com promo code take row back.com promo code take a R H O B A C K.com. We had a debate last week on this show. Uh, and one of our producers said that, uh, Joel and beads actually the same playoff performer as Jason Tatum. Do you care to weigh in on this? I don't understand how that would be true since Jason Tatum has the advantage

of having been in a lot of playoff games and shown up for them. That's a good point. By the way, I don't think it's Joel Embiid's fault that he's gotten hurt. He's got some really weird injuries. Remember he broke his eye at one point? Yeah.

So it's not that he's soft. I mean, the man's huge, obviously. He's a tree trunk. But the truth is, the best ability is availability, as they like to say, and he's not been available for a lot of the time that Philadelphia has needed him. And Jason Taneu has been an Iron Man. I mean, he has been there for that team over and over and over again. He's one of their most regular players. I don't know how you can make a comparison. Yeah. That's a valid point, but you're bringing up numbers now. And our producer said that he wasn't trying to bring up numbers. He was just trying to talk about the fact that they average about the same number of points. How ready they are, what they were wearing.

Yeah, it was a bad argument. The points per game is similar. I think Embiid has about two, let's call it three rebounds a game more. Tatum has three assists per game more. And yeah, then the rest of it is just, you know, like Joel's missed eight games, Tatum's missed one. And Joel's never been to a conference final. A conference final.

He's been making the argument that Celtics are a super team and and Joe and bead does just as well even though again, I don't didn't didn't Tate him score 50 on on Joe and beads team That's true. Yeah, those in the game seven Okay, if you put your own one B if you switch them if you put Joe and being on the Celtics, yeah He wouldn't do as well because he would be on the bench in street clothes for sections of the time and the Celtics would greatly suffer because of it. That's a good point. So you can say they're better, I don't care what the numbers are, you can't score 16 points or this many points or whatever when you have a sweatshirt on.

So that's the answer. Very good. That's a good point. Very simple. Okay. I've got a couple questions for you guys, by the way. Sure, yeah, go for it. That's the answer. Very good. That's a good point. Very simple. Okay. I've got a couple questions for you guys, by the way.

Shoot. Yeah. Go for it. Right. I do need PFT's caps tape. Where are we? What's the panic meter? How are we doing?

How much a gape do you have? Yeah. I'm very, I was super a gape on Saturday and then I woke up this morning not a gape at all and I'm still not a gape. I don't know what it is but OV's looked old he's looked really old the last couple games and we saw it last year in the playoffs against the Rangers that's that's what he looks like that's true yes but I'm talking about just like the the juice that he brings the energy

that he brings I haven't really seen it this series he had it last year so I'm concerned about that and outside of the top line haven't, we don't have a lot of guys that are flying around making plays. Carlson looked very old on, on Saturday, but the nice thing about Carlson is he's always looked old. Even when he was young, he looked old. He was just kind of like an average speed defender. He's always in the right place at the right time. He was not in the right place at none of the right times on, on Saturday. So I'm, I'm worried and I'm, I'm worried that I'm going to go on. I'm going to the game on, on Thursday and I'm scared that that's going to be a

closeout game that I'm going to see the cap season end right in my face. So I've already put a must win on Monday, Monday nights, a must win for the caps. Definitely must win. Not, I can't lose. Definitely must win. They agree first period and the goal he just stood in. Not I can't lose. Definitely must win. They agree. First period and the goal he just said in his head and we'll have to see.

Yeah. All right. My second question for you guys. Can I get another Yeah. Recurring gas t-shirt because mine burned in a fire. Oh yeah.

That's a valid. Oh man. For insurance purposes. Hold on. Did you? Did you? I'm looking up right now. We actually don't have fire insurance on those shirts.

So sorry about that. Uh, did you? Why do you think I'm making a solo hat? I have no glasses. I have no nothing. When you made your claim to the insurance company, we were like, this was a one of two shirt that burned. And it's worth probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I had a list of the contents of your house, which is hysterical because you go to where my house was. It is literally just a field of ashes. There's no argument over what was there, but you still have to make the list. And of course, an itemized item. It wasn't just 10 t-shirts. It was the part of my take t-shirt and then all the valuable jewelry and then the rest

of the house. I'm happy I didn't bring up the shirt before you said that because that would have been awkward if I've been like hey, you still got the shirt like nope burned. Yeah, we will get you a new shirt We gotta get you a new shirt. That also That had to be just terrifying is like Try like checking to see if your home still there finding out it's not where are you in the process? Yeah, so when you know, it's crazy how quick it was. We lived in Pacific Palisades, Malibu area. That was the day that

there was this crazy 100 mile an hour winds that fire chief later said it was like a 501 fire inside a tornado. Like there was just nothing anyone could have done. And we can see the flames coming down the side of the hill toward us, which is a lot. So you're just rushing around the house, trying to get out, trying to grab some things. But we didn't have a chance to grab much. Otherwise, of course, the t-shirt would have been at the top of the pile.

Right. The family picture is a t-shirt. And then, yeah, then it's the after. And I just don't think that's what, I didn't realize that when I saw disasters on TV. I would be like, oh my God, those poor people, they lost their homes, they lost their stuff. Stuff is stuff. It can eventually be replaced. It's, huh, I don't have anywhere to live. That's interesting. My kids don't have this. They don't have, you know what I mean? So we're, we're just getting into a new place. That's why there's

white walls behind me. Um, I still need glasses apparently, and I need my t-shirt back. And we will get you a t-shirt and I have to imagine that like a bonus little shitty part of it obviously the house and all that super important but then you have to do a lot of paperwork afterwards yeah to try to get any sort of like restitution back that's what would drive me insane is you lose everything and then you're like yeah you have to fill out these 20 forms I don't insult anyone but the insurance industry in this country whether it's medical insurance, fire insurance, whatever it is sucks. Yeah yeah it's not great. Agreed. Not

great. Well Rachel it's always great having you on we appreciate your time as always. Hopefully we see you soon and thanks. Thanks. Happy Mother's Day. Thanks for coming on for Mother's Day. All right good luck on Thursday. Bring it. Yeah I'm gonna going to be so agape. You'll, you'll see me. I'm going to be right up against the glass. He's not going to close his mouth. Super gay. Yeah. That I'm going to be the most agape guy in the United States. There we go. That's going to be me. This is going to be me. I'm going to be so agape on the man. All right. Thanks Rachel. Part of my take is sponsored by betterHelp. Mental health awareness is growing, but there's still progress to be made. 26% of Americans who participate in a recent health survey said that they have

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What what is there's? Publatory came out with a in-depth fully journalism ist podcast Okay, you got this you were to your full journal. Yeah research in-depth research source and sourcing 11 sources 11 sources yet someone I think go like a family sources yeah Graham sources Jordan like childhood and like where she grew up sources a field reporter went to Jordan's mom's sex shop and did a

very good job with this yeah I did a very good job and that's all I'll lead it I'll leave the rest of you guys. Okay, so I guess we can just talk about some of the actual bits of news that came out of it. One, he said that she was banned from UNC football. Now, UNC football then released a statement saying that while she is not an employee, right of UNC football, she is not prohibited from visiting the team facilities But they did in fact say in the statement

She is not an employee right of UNC football Which seems to be a big takeaway because maybe some people were saying that she was acting like she was right and I don't want to say UNC copied us but we I don't want to say UNC copied us but we Memes got right on it when the news came out that she was banned from UNC memes Released a graphic saying that she is not banned from PMT not at all and she is not Yeah, Jordan, you are always welcome here girl So it was like she's banned but then she's not technically banned because I don't think like Bill can say

She's coming to the office. Yeah, that's something but not like as a place of work. It sounds like yeah, right So I don't know what she's doing I know she's running bills own personal stuff like his social stuff But I don't think that she's now officially working with UNC He also said that she was definitely behind the cancellation of hard knocks Yes, that there was like pretty early on a, a, a clear power struggle. And they just said, you know what? This is not worth it.

We're going to be out of the Jordan business, right? Which that's the beauty of that's the beauty commerce in America. Right. You can decide who you want to work with. Listen, some people they get intimidated working with an alpha like Jordan. Right. And it sounds like the people at HBO, they're like, you know what? We're not going to be calling the shots here Jordan

I can already tell that's a tough cookie. I want her to take my job. Yeah, she's probably gonna run HBO soon enough They're also was a there's a little bit of confusion about her age She might have filled out That she was born in 2000 in the UNC directory. Mm-hmm, but she I think was born in 2000 in the UNC directory, but she I think was born in 2001. I don't know when it became appropriate to ask a woman's age. I thought you weren't supposed to do that. So let's just leave that one aside. It's very impolite. There's also belief that it's actually illegal to do that. It is illegal in job interviews. And you already said that she was not an employee correct

So in this portal thing she was filling out was she applying for a job and you were asking her Did you ask her if she was pregnant too? Good point is that's also illegal and also I kind of like to know if she was yeah, right Because she might be maybe could fix all this. Ah the She then there's also the belief that Pablo floated it out that They're potentially leaving the how did we meet thing because they're gonna do a reality show good More Jordan can't wait need it. I want to see that want more Jordan. It's also very savvy from a business sense

Yeah, don't yeah, don't give that stuff away That's gonna be gold and then the one part that I because Pablo did a very good job of reporting even though we might Disagree on whether Jordan's a girl boss or not. I think she is The one part that maybe irked me a little there is probably use an anonymous source It said one person said she's the worst person I've ever dealt with on earth and I've dealt with actual sociopaths I'm not saying that is everyone. I'm just saying this story is extreme. That last part is Pablo. So the source said she's the worst person I've ever dealt with on earth and I've dealt with actual sociopaths. Anonymous source. I have an anonymous source about Jordan. I have an anonymous source that this person said, hey, if we ever want

Bill Belichick on, we got to start being nice to Jordan. Also, she's really hot anonymous source Henry Lockwood So I don't know like dude, we don't do anonymous sourcing over here. I do think it's probably a bit of a stretch to say She's the worst person I've ever met in my entire life. I haven't met a lot of Paths I never source probably also said that before like shit hit this when the anonymous source said that it was before this whole thing. It wasn't. It wasn't after this thing. Right. Story. It was like, but I'm just saying like, go both ways for sure. Cause that anonymous source who said, Hey, if you want Belcher gone, you're going to have to be nice to your aunt. Also said she's very beautiful and smart. She is. You're right. Wait, you said that? I think that I agree with this anonymous

source that anonymous source said, watch out. Christopher Caffrey may not play football anymore. There was another story in this podcast that was about her kind of shoehorning her way into another commercial. Yeah. We already heard about the Duncan story for the Super Bowl commercial where she's like, Hey Bill, wouldn't it be fun and cute if I was also with you and Ben Affleck in this shot and I'll just be in the background pumping my fist. Guess what? It was fun. America agreed. It was a great commercial. It was super funny. It was super cute and super fun. Yeah. Uh, there was another commercial for underdog where she suggested when she showed up for the shoot that maybe they do the commercial

a little bit differently and said the script that they had for it. What if the commercial was just about her in a yellow polka dot bikini trying to get Bill's attention by the pool? Which sounds like a great idea for a commercial. And then apparently they pretended to film the commercial for her and they didn't actually have the cameras running at the time. But they were doing it to make her feel like shoot. Just, okay, we'll do what she wants and then we'll move on.

That one's tough, especially production like that's a nightmare. That's a production person's nightmare. Yeah. But it sounds like it was a great idea for a commercial. Sounds like we need this footage because it's probably going to be, you know what? If we get our hands on that footage, we'll make a Pardon My Cheese steak commercial out of it. Agreed. No problem. Agreed. Jordan, we'll have you, we'll pay you'll make a part of my cheese steak commercial out of it agreed No problem agreed or it on will have you will pay you to be in a part of my cheese steak commercial Yeah, or if you just want to yeah direct the entire commercial as well. Yeah, whatever you want

We matter of fact Jordan you are now officially head of production for part of my cheese steak Yeah, we'll be waiting for you. And guess what? We don't care how old you are. Nope Cuz it well 18 plus. Yeah. 18 plus. Uh, listen, Jordan, you officially, I would like to make an announcement. Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose, Jordan Belichick. Is that what's her? What's her name? She's definitely. She's definitely written that down in a couple of spiral notebooks. Practice the old signature. Whoops. Okay. But we do that again. Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose. Come on. I'm looking at Hudson. Hudson. You are officially the first person and the last person to ever be granted lifetime cheese steaks from part of my cheesesteak. Wow. That's

huge. It's you. Anytime you want a cheese steak has to be for you. You have to eat it. You can't give it to anyone else. Not transferable. That is legally binding. Anytime you want a cheesesteak has to be for you. You have to eat it. You can't give it to anyone else non-transferable That is legally binding. Mm-hmm. Anytime you want a cheesesteak. It's on us one thing I will defend her on is what if she got like super fat? No, not her she works her genetics Genetics runner. You don't get third and runner runner up this man. It's main the main event. She's beautiful She's glowing, you know what and she'd be she'd be just as beautiful even if she did eat cheese steaks every day for the rest of I would say even more beautiful because what's

the most beautiful part about her is what's between the ears yep and it could be like she's take yep absolutely don't please Jordan do not put the cheese steaks in your ears is there is there I guess there is a big difference kind of but not really of what? It's your wrong if bills matter when she was 19 versus bill matter when she was 20. I I don't know what No, I think it's L'Oreal said that I think I wrote was like there's a big difference between a 70 year old meeting a 19 Year-old 70 year old meeting a 20 year old. I don't know sounds that's literally like, sounds like satire. Yeah. Yeah. When you're that far apart, it's

like, it's, it's a big deal no matter what. Yeah. We stand with Jordan. Agreed? Agreed. Also congratulations to the Miss Maine. She looks beautiful. I think she got hosed. The one who won? I didn't, I didn't watch any of it. I just saw the one who won and I was like, Yeah, makes sense. It would have been funny if during the question that I assume they had a question answer part. I believe so. I think she came out in a gown that said, talked about Maine lobster fishermen love that. Love that. So that was cool. In the trap. Yeah. It would have been great in the trap. It would have been great if they had just asked her. So how'd you guys meet? Yeah, the question answer. Yeah

But yeah, listen third is not something to be ashamed of no Jordan is our queen Hank how we doing great. You think she's gonna you think she'll eat a cheesesteak? I think she'll probably pick us up on that offer to be you had a production for you MC Yeah of that PMC can't wait to work for you Jordan Yeah, even with you but for you you tell us how to jump we say how high mm-hmm I'm gonna do I'm gonna do my job. Yeah, that's whatever you say it is I mean literally whatever you say eat that humble pie mm-hmm big time

Good yeah, okay, okay, you guys think we nailed that anything weird about one thing that probably didn't talk about as much but the She was 19 when she met Bill And she already had an ex-boyfriend that was like a 60 year old Well, I think they dated went after she met Bill cuz they didn't bill was still dating his ex-girlfriend After she met Bill cuz they didn't bill was still dating his ex-girlfriend Okay, they met and didn't start dating until two years after that got it. Yeah, one of my favorite parts of

The story was the old boyfriend They did a little background on yeah, and he has written thousands of reviews on a wine reviewing website Yeah, thousands of reviews thousands. So it's like pug when he gets on untapped he always checks in whenever he drinks a beer which rocks And then his friends like when you do that plug. Oh, yeah pugs got pug is big on hell. Yes the beer apps I know you rocked out like that. Oh, yeah, I'm tapping in all the time. Yeah, I'm like a Friday He'll report like drink drinking a beer and then his buddies be like sick. Oh, that's awesome Yeah, Montreal was awesome. We tapped in tapped in a few times How long have you been tapping? in for a few years

Every time you drink a beer you tap in not if it's like if it's like a newer beer I haven't had before like it depends depends on them on the vibe If you're out if you're out for a night on the town and you let's say you stick with one like domestic light beer And you have nine of them. Do you log all nine of those in a row because that would be awesome probably just just one just one if it's if it's a repeat beer I'll keep it one we tap in on new beers new beers only got it so apparently her ex-boyfriend is like that with wine where he writes like these very flowery very prose like reviews of every single wine that he ever drinks in his entire life. Yeah, that's a lot man

Thousands of reviews of wine is a lot. Everyone's gonna have a passion. That's true You know when people would look at parts of our lives and be like that's a lot. That's stupid. That's true Yeah, like hang golf so much like this guy cares about the schedule release golf so much like this guy cares about the schedule release it's fun to complain I don't like I don't like I don't like to hate on the schedule no schedule releases just do it all at once we do it all once but I don't know I don't like them hating on us yeah I don't like the way they've they've bastardized the schedule release I think it should just be one yeah you should do it with no leaks and just be like here it is But them judging us it doesn't sit right and like some of the fun stuff on social media that the team accounts do is fine

Or whatever it's like their Super Bowl they were with the team. Yeah, it's too much now much I just pay attention what the charges do when I move on yeah Do you think Jordan will be you and see gonna release schedule? Oh, they should I probably already have that released though Yeah, that is that is released like years years like five six years Oh, she should do the one for like 2035 UNC schedule release Jordan If you would like to do a schedule release with us on where we'll be watching each game They'll all be in the gambling cave, but we could make we have fun with it. Mm-hmm a lot of fun That would be a lot of fun a

Lot of fun. Do you think he's gonna coach? Bill yeah Or Joe Don bill Bill's the coach. Yeah, I got confused. I think I think yes I think he is but no people are at they're asking the question. I think he is I think Hank do you yeah That's what he does. I Do I think he is think Hank do you yeah that's what he does I do I think yes so when did they start dating I don't know why are you shaking your head do we know years ago you said yeah but then you were shaking your head was she I was do we think that maybe just maybe she was a reason why Bill didn't

get an NFL job yeah maybe like maybe she was a reason why bill didn't get an NFL job Yeah Maybe like maybe she was in the I don't like that cuz I I'm team Jordan, but yeah, I know I there's a possibility No, I actually think it's the opposite PFT I think he started dating her after and if he had started doing her before he would have definitely gotten an NFL He'd be commissioner by now, correct. Mm-hmm, correct I just something to think about the question your blank has I mean he did end up She went to UNC right what? She attended UNC I do I do not believe so

Okay, that I didn't mind. No, I do not believe so Take it back. Okay, I did not go to UNC. I think Arthur blank probably texted bill Belichick was like hey, dude Why didn't you tell me about this cool-ass chick? Yeah, I would have hired you. Sorry about not calling you back for the second interview Yeah, no problem. Do we think that had anything to do with how he left New England? No, they weren't dating then Right. Can you just met confirmed? Yeah, they were just they weren't dating. They just met. Ah Okay, Max Hawaii

You're back back. You brought us gifts. I brought gifts already on the Pope. I Looked for the Pope god damn it. It was tough to find the Pope in Hawaii. There wasn't this one right here All right, I'll start with you then it's an old-ass Pope I thought the pope needed a friend. Okay. So the pope got the whole whole answer. Oh hell yes. I love that. It kind of the packaging kind of got you know a little destroyed in transit but I don't love that. I don't love that. It's still works. I get it over here. Let me see. That also everyone's getting two gifts except for Shane who gets zero. Oh nice. That also

comes with a, a homemade bookmark because you told me you were going to start reading this summer. Yup. Bought another book the other day. Did you read the first one? No, but I bought another book. I bought about five books this year. I'm going to give you a, give all, all the way after. No, no. Bring it in. Pug. Yeah, bring it in. I want to play with my bookmark. Yeah, there's like a little thing on it. OK, I'll just go around in a circle. Hank, you're next. I went to a farmer's market in Kauai and this is like a homemade little candle holder. OK. It came with a little tea candle. Okay.

But that melted in transit. So there's like half of a candle in here that's like kind of broken, but the holder is still there. And it's pretty cool. What happened in transit? Love that. You know, it's far placed.

You know, it was in my backpack for a while. That, and that comes with a magnet. Also from this farmer's market. Oh, nice. That says aloha. All right, Memes is next. What that and that comes with a magnet also from this farmers are guys Hello, that says aloha. All right memes is next. Is that the hello or the goodbye one? What do you guys think? Looks great great little collection. Oh, it looks like Belichick and Jordan's a hot couple So cute. All right, we're going Well, you guys just switched up. All right pug you're next

Pug this was from the farmers market. It's a little print from from an artist and it's just you know A little so you look like a postcard went to one farmers market and you got everything correct This and then this was from the airport in Maui It is a salt and pepper shaker with two I don't know. It's a Hawaiian salt and pepper shaker. Yeah. All right, Pugs. So this is for you. This is a postcard. Thanks, bro. I love it. It's like it's like a little piece of art. And then the person who made it did a wrote a little Aloha from quiet the bottom. Oh, nice. This for memes. It's another kind of a postcard.

Kind of. But it's Turtles, Mr. Pear. And then Shotglass of boobs. Nice! Nice memes. Damn. That's so sick. That's on brand.

Add it to the collection. How many do you have memes? I have two. People just want to send me boobs. Jack, I didn't really know where to get to that one. That's an interesting way to go there, memes. Yup. Mugs, mugs.

Yup. Alright. Jugs? Yup, okay. Jack, I got you a magnet with a bottle opener on it and then also some dark chocolate macadamia. Oh nice so Pft mm-hmm. I Was about to do something shoot super sick, but I got I thought it would have been mean to the rest of the rest of the

Team here. I was close to get it bring back like a $300 ukulele yeah, but I thought that is super yeah, but it would have been fucked up instead you went with a bookmark It's a postcard Went to that ukulele. I would have given up my the bookmark budget for the ukulele the ukulele would have been cool, right? Yeah All right, whatever that's always the best way to introduce a gift is like here's the awesome gift I almost Guitar picks from that ukulele store that I love it and then also yeah from the farmers market I want the ukulele on the counter. He's gonna be like that's gonna be Literally did that I literally did that much of the picks other 50 cents

Yep, I got you five of them sold. Oh, yeah, I got five because I was like of like a dollar I literally did that. How much are the picks? They're 50 cents. Done. Yup. I got you five of them. Sold. Hell yeah. I got five because I was like, uh, like a dollar is not. That's actually, honestly, that is a great gift because I always need picks. There we go. They always disappear.

Great gift, Max. I got you five guitar picks and this little bracelet that is made out of volcano lava. Love that. Very cool. That is very cool. Thank you, Max. And that's it. All right. I'm so, I think I won this with the bookmark. Yup. I think, I think the pics. Dude, did you see this bookmark that I'm going to totally use for the books I read? It is

pretty sick, but it's a bookmark. You told me you were going to start reading books. Who wouldn't want to get a gift of a bookmark? You really just gave me homework. But I'm just, I'm helping you pursue your hobby for this summer. A fucking bookmark is an insult gift. That's what you told me. You were gonna start reading. Every time I look at the pics,

I'm just gonna think about that sick ukulele. It's gonna make me happy. I know, I shoulda got the, ah. I'ma put my bookmark next to the pope, just so I can just gonna think about that sick ukulele. It's gonna make me happy. I know I should have got the I'm a put my bookmark next to the Pope just so I can just remind myself how awesome the gifts I get from my boys Do you have a ukulele? I don't have a ukulele. No, okay. I also thought about that. I was like, maybe he's got a uke Yeah, you're not fat enough to I know you can really you gotta have some girth to you max you can be There was this one like at one of the you know You gotta have some girth to you. Max, you could be a ukulele guy. There was this like at one of the, you know. That wasn't about being fat. That was just

the vibe. Cause you look at the vibe. I went to a luau and they had a ukulele player who like travels the world and plays ukulele. And it was like the sickest thing ever. She was right. Whoa. The ukulele. You can't. You know, it's like a doctor is the mother thing. She, she, yeah, she, she, she, I didn't know they made those. Yeah. Oh, I got to find her name. You can't be bummed out. Listen to ukulele. Fuck my phone, sir. Wait, what'd you say? I just said, you can't be bummed out. Listen to ukulele. Yeah, no. And very like she was ripping the ukulele. She was so good. Damn Great job. Nothing for Shane. Nothing for sure. She didn't get max. I

Gave everyone else. I wanted to make sure I gave everyone else two gifts to get and zero for Shane. Thank you, Max Deserved this is a fun. This is a fun tradition. We're starting This is a good way to combat vacation. It's like hey Encourage vacation. no, but thank you Oh the second get some more bookmarks of Pope Bobbites. Yeah People are saying Max is a new Hank and I I'm happy we're passing torch Yeah, but then I heard someone I saw that and then they're like max has literally taken like two vacations in his entire time here taking like two vacations in his entire time here yeah I just happened to be very close together Hanks gonna go broke taking vacations with all the gifts he's

gonna have to buy that's oh my god hey oh that's my next vacation ballin out I want I want at least three bookmarks I just don't know when that is okay I got nothing planned how do you got nothing plant just grinding you are just crying just focused on the grind we're still on for golf on Thursday All right good show boys Numbers three oh You're not gonna get it though memes. What is today's day titty mug? One I'll go with... Titty chocolate.

99 Pogue. 44. 21. I'm gonna go with 61. I'm gonna go with 6. What was your guess Hank? 40. One. I don't even think I said number one. 20.

20. Oh Shane so close. So close thinking a gift of the ball bitch. Love you guys. I'm So So I'm gonna be a good boy Thanks for watching!