Pardon My Take - Rachel Nichols + We Question Science

Episode Date: December 19, 2018

MNF recap, Cam Newton is hurt, and we fix the fumble out of the end zone rule. Booger and Witten are back for another season (2:29 - 12:17). Hot Seat/Cool Throne plus we finally admit we like Carrie U...nderwood's Game On song (12:17 - 26:23). ESPN's Rachel Nichols joins the show to catch up on NBA, Jimmy Butler, Lebron playing out west, where is Carmelo Anthony, and how big of a joke the Chicago Bulls are (26:23 - 54:59). Segments include SOPRANOS SPOILERS BE ALERT, Pinstripe Update for Bryce Harper, Stay Classy Rick Barnes, Connect The Dots Kyrie questions people questioning Steph and we question Science and Guys on Chicks. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we welcome back recurring guest Hall of Famer, Rachel Nichols. We talk NBA, we haven't talked NBA yet this season. We get into the weeds with her about Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James and Jimmy Butler and a lot of fun stories, always a good time with Rachel. We also have some Monday Night Football Cleanup to do, Hot Seat Cool Throne and guys on chicks
Starting point is 00:00:35 before we get to all of that. I regretfully have to tell you it's that time of the week again. Go ahead, PFT. Yeah, you know what time it is, big guy knows what time it is too, it's a wet Wednesday. So everybody lay down a towel, I'm going to talk to you all about some shells and cheese from Velvita because you guys know that being an SEC fan is draining, just drives you right up because you get every single drop of liquid just streaming out of your body. The game day ritual begins early and you got tailgates that start in the morning and then
Starting point is 00:01:05 you stand and your make your voices heard from the stands throughout every minute of the game. The weather is either scorching and humid or cold and rainy, it's damp, it's wet, it's moist. I know you guys love that word, it's just so moist. And watching at a bar or with friends can be just as intense and after a long day being an SEC fan, or you know what, if you're a back 12 fan, if you're a big 12 fan, I know you're a big, big 10 fan, fans want nothing more than their couch, it's indulged in nothing
Starting point is 00:01:32 but the good stuff. Velvita cheese is so rich, it's creamy, it's cheesy, it's melty, you know it's melty, you don't need me to tell you that, you're a good girl. Pasta shells pull the creamy cheese sauce delivering a cheesier bite, it's a craveable post-game snack, it's so quick, it's easy to prepare, no additional ingredients necessary. All you need is just boil some water, just heat that right up, you cook the shells, you stir in the cheese sauce. That's the sound that it makes when you stir it in there, so satisfy your post-game craving
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Starting point is 00:03:02 Welcome to part of my take presented by Seige. Today is Wednesday, December 19th. We have an injured Cam Newton PFT. Yeah, very injured. shoulder just looked like it was gonna fall off so usually we make fun of the guys who wait till after they're really shitty for a while to be like well I'm really hurt but if you have two eyes in a brain Cam Newton is very very hurt not hurt enough that he can't get up and do the
Starting point is 00:03:23 Superman pose and jot linebackers when he's trying to run a two-minute offense and instead of calling a timeout waste 15 seconds and then throws an interception at the first half not that hurt his first down signaling shoulder is fine but passing shoulder is injured he is very injured different guys since he got hit by TJ Watt that Thursday night football game and the New Orleans Saints look like they're all about ready to get the buy set up right yeah I think so I think so they're in the catbird seat right now for that buy the Rams look pretty bad the Saints look pretty good here's the thing about the
Starting point is 00:03:57 Saints decent they don't look here's a look okay here's the thing about the Saints their defense is really good now mm-hmm their defense is awesome yep I would say so yeah they are probably the most complete team in the NFC I would say but here's the thing about Cam Newton it's your damned if you do damned if you don't because if he you know starts sitting out games or whatever earlier in the season after he gets injured then he becomes the injury prone guy yep right but if he stays in too long and he's obviously injured then people are like why are you still out there even though you're probably hurting your team and I'm
Starting point is 00:04:29 pretty sure everyone in the world had the Panthers look out for the Panthers they could be a Super Bowl contender I sure did when they were six and two have not won a game since now six and eight eliminated from the playoffs done chain the official done chain you're gone so that was a tough ending for them I wonder to this is we're now at the part of the season where it's like the guys should we sit them cam Newton probably should sit him Aaron Rodgers probably should sit him who's cam Newton's backup is it Derek Anderson still say Joe Webb Derek Anderson should be no Joe Webb's a wide receiver I know he
Starting point is 00:05:02 should be a quarterback he should be on call yeah we should have a red phone next to Ron Rivera's bed that when he ever picks it up that's the web phone yes we who I like that we should get a few fun backups coming in weeks 16 and 17 little Matt Flynn games yes little math is Taysum Hill gonna get to play an entire game if the Saints clinch home field advantage they said that he every time he's in the game it's 90% plus run so didn't see that so he's a human wildcat goddamn announcers love him so much I love him too yeah I love Taysum Hill Taylor Heineke yeah from Richmond Houston Houston is that the car on
Starting point is 00:05:43 Houston before no repair company old Dominion old Dominion ODU that is rich no that is Richmond yeah it's a suburb of Richmond yeah it's cool it's Goochland Virginia oh Goochland yeah gets real swampy then really swamp in the summer yeah that's why you gotta pack your shoes Christ stop so the other story we had with two other stories from Monday football the first being the alleged worst rule in sports the fumble out of the end zone being a touchback mm-hmm now you like that rule I love that rule okay I don't think you have a dump in your pants if you don't like it I it's not that I don't like that rule I
Starting point is 00:06:16 just wish it's a rule that could we had could we could have so much more fun with like my idea of if you fumble out of the end zone it's not a touchback it's first and goal from the 30 so we get that weird you know if they get sacked we can get like a fourth and goal from the 42 or something you know one of those weird ones that you only see in matching games on Tuesday night right so you're looking at all wrong though you're looking at as the punishment doesn't fit the crime yeah that's the wrong way to look at it you should look at it as the reward it fits the feet it fits the accomplishment well I've heard the
Starting point is 00:06:49 defense yeah and you you make a guy fumble through the end zone at the one yard line that's an awesome play by our defense yep you should get a big reward for that and I've they're actually so I made three easy points for you to understand everybody out there I know Twitter really went on fire and everybody called it like the worst rule in sports we also should do my my hoop idea there should be a hoop in the in the end zone for kickoff no no for kickoffs and also for you can if you're diving for the end zone you can throw it in the hoop so you can take that risk and have it be an automatic touchdown okay
Starting point is 00:07:20 yeah I'll allow that but if you miss it then it's a touch back for the other time that's good no first down from 30 no no so yeah here's it what's that Hank I was gonna say like more than 90% of the time the people the defense isn't forcing a fumble on the end zone it's usually they either fumble themselves or they drop the ball which is funny really rarely is it the defense well the ones I'm thinking about the most famous examples of this play the Sean Jackson including well no that's I think that was just recovered first dropped it just dropped it so last night's fumble was forced as a force fumble the the bin Watson hit on
Starting point is 00:07:52 champ bailey that was a forced fumble the two plays by the Seahawks in the last couple years one was Calvin Johnson and that's just generally any time Calvin Johnson whether it's up in the air of if it was a touchdown or not they're always gonna rule no but Hank's right it is most of the time it's a guy reaching for which is very funny because when if you close your eyes and you think of an NFL comm commercial it's almost always a guy reaching for the end zone so they basically glorify the play that everyone says is the worst rule in sports yeah well here's the thing so everyone's saying like oh why is it a
Starting point is 00:08:27 different penalty why are the rules different once you reach the end zone if you fumble it out of bounds they often skips the ball back from the point I think the point where they gave it up right so right yeah right now we're not where if they fumble the ball forward out of bounds just normally yes in the open field it comes back to the point where they lost possession of the ball so they're saying like okay why do the rules not govern the end zone as well well for the offense it's a different rule to you can reach the ball out and break the plane and as long as you break the plane doesn't matter if
Starting point is 00:08:56 you fumble it after that it's still gonna count as a touchdown so the defense this is like their response to that there the end zone has different rules in general for both teams the second thing is this is the one rule in the entire NFL that favors the defense in the last 30 years every rule change has been switched to be like okay we need more points you can't touch a wide receiver after five yards you have to like give the quarterback a hug and not bring them to the ground this is the one thing that the defense of defenses have it's the one thing that they get that is maybe a little bit tilted in favor of them okay
Starting point is 00:09:28 and then my third point is it's just chaos and I love chaos well yeah it is chaos yes and so but it's a lot of reviews well the hoop would fix it all the hoop fixes most of these things yes you just throw it in that hoop boom ready to ready to go that would that would fit taste some hill skill set perfectly yeah just a running back that can pass the ball really well throw it right in them and Ronnie Brown would still be in the league yeah and everyone knows that this is the hottest thing is putting a ball in a hoop from that England netball netball yeah I watched a little bit of netball today wild if you
Starting point is 00:09:57 haven't seen the netball highlight from the England who is it playing South Africa Australia yeah probably Stragia yeah it was a sport that I do not understand whatsoever but I'm in I'm all in yeah looks like do you think how long do you think you would take for LeBron James to be the best netball player probably he is right now probably right now yeah please I don't think you can dunk netball oh interesting hmm so I just made that up so are you saying that I don't think you can either I mean it's a sport where you can't play defense so I doubt and then that doesn't have a backboard yeah and half and and five
Starting point is 00:10:28 seventh seventh of the team isn't allowed to shoot mm-hmm which makes it like imagine playing a high-level sport where you just have to pass the ball and stay in a specific zone you're not allowed to shoot and you're not allowed to score that's a classic like hey I don't feel like playing anymore yeah it's basically John Fox offense five people on the team are just everyone's little brother like you don't get to shoot you bad controller yeah yeah pass to me I'm open Hank are you searching something right now no okay just look at the web all right the other story we had out of Monday night football the Monday night
Starting point is 00:11:01 football crew is going to be back see I've heard different hmm there was another report that came out said no that said that they're they're gonna use the Super Bowl as a test case to bring booger inside the booth will the ESPN doesn't have a Super Bowl no they're doing the international broadcast of it oh yeah to posh twist interesting so no Sergio dip so on radio or no are they speaking English yeah I'm not exactly sure how it works I just made that up not making it up they're doing they're doing it ESPN gets an international broadcast of the Super Bowl and they so the world has to listen to booger and
Starting point is 00:11:36 Jason Witton yeah since we can't win wars anymore in the United this is our way of just just dominating and also they're not bringing booger in because they think he'll work in there they're bringing booger in because there's no way that NBC or whoever has a Fox no CBS would allow booger mobile to just be going around on the sidelines correct okay correct yeah I mean well that we're gonna test something new it's like no you're not yours not allowed to have the booger reveal on the sideline but if it goes well do you really think they're bringing the booger mobile back I hope they do I like the booger mobile got all
Starting point is 00:12:04 the buzz mm-hmm that's part partially why Jason Witton hates it they should turn the booger mobile on to also a Sibian at the same time so let's ride it all night yeah maybe actually would give Jason Witton a little character yeah little little blood in his face Cam Newton is very good at run after the catch a little flushed yeah we have said that Cam Newton one of his strengths is his yards after the catch that's the truth truth I don't know how many balls he's caught but he said it after he just ran and then got up and celebrated well the clock with the way it is not mad probably the only guy you complete one
Starting point is 00:12:37 to yeah I'm not mad alright let's do hot seat cool throne then we have Rachel Nichols on the show Hank why don't you start with our hot seat cool throne my hot seat is fortnight ooh oh so I'm sure you guys saw this but out Russell Horning and Alfonso Rubiero you guys know the course yeah I'm actually surprised you knew that I know Carlton I know I just the name I don't know but Russell Horning is the the backpack kid the kid that does the floss of course okay and Carlton they're suing they're joining up and suing fortnight for their using their signature dances without permission so imagine I mean the backpack
Starting point is 00:13:10 kid and Carlton how do you go about you gotta be a real asshole to sue the game that like the world loves yeah also like they get jealous cuz they're like oh everyone loves this game but I'm not getting money off it I'm okay with the backpack and not getting paid off it and Carlton stole the Carlton like from someone else did he yeah really who something I don't know right on the internet but okay it's true yeah they have like a originator of the Carlton yes didn't write goodwill hunting but no did create the Carlton dance how does the backpack kid again does he have a name yeah hornyk hornyk is the backpack
Starting point is 00:13:46 kid's name so how old is the backpack kid now he's got to be like 23 teenager according to this article okay all right I'm gonna ask a dumb question what is who is the backpack the floss you know the yeah so where where did he first invented the internet I don't know it's oh the internet you can't you can't like go viral and then be like this is my thing that I invented who invented the Dab me goes yeah yeah so are they still in Cam Newton no I mean that's that was that was good for them this is yeah well fortnight's good for backpack kid yeah now how backpack kid doesn't have like music in a backpack kid maybe get be
Starting point is 00:14:19 known as something other than backpack also yeah you get to sue people back here's here's how a little backpack kid matters is even though he invented the floss he's still known as backpack kid right exactly so I'm so let it go let it go I hate this kid oh I'm looking at him right now what do you have to do in order to just get a dance like copyrighted oh this kid thinks he's hot too hot to try does that work I have no idea also how much does that suck that this kid has to wear a backpack all the time that's fucking he is he is made his own hell he can never take off his backpack and like damn Daniel has to wear white
Starting point is 00:14:53 shoes all the time yep exactly I wonder where damn Daniel is probably just I heard he died actually no he's a Cali bro hey who's your cool throne my cool throne is a extremely close fantasy football finishes that you would never believe hmm oh do tell I mean we've gotten about 30 I don't know 40 tweets of just people being like guys you I know you guys don't talk about fantasy football but you have to see this that's why I love fantasy points down we can say a million times you don't give a fuck but even then if you lose by point two because your kicker missed a kick you're still gonna be like the world
Starting point is 00:15:26 needs to know yeah that fumble costs some people games yes it's it the worst rule in sports yes it did I once lost a fantasy football championship because we don't give a fuck yards got taken away honestly we don't care it was okay honestly we don't give a fuck but I just we know you just didn't know for this week no those are on the cool okay we don't care but I'm in the finals of my league oh yeah that's pretty cool isn't wow nice you want to ask me who's energy I got Pat Mahomes remember we told the draft Pat Mahomes yeah we did tell you didn't and he didn't thought I was gonna not know wasn't that'll be good
Starting point is 00:15:57 what's your projected score and the finals is 120 points and what about your opponent it's not PPR so 120 is okay my opponent is 120.5 so oh I'm gonna have to probably live tweet the entire thing out gonna be close folks yeah I'm gonna have to eat the entire damn do you have anyone on Saturday night I got no but my opponent does so I'm gonna have to watch those games to make a break weekend for me yep what about Danny's team Danny's team lost yeah in the quarter finals my cool throwing is PFT's hair yeah that stays for a while alright PFT what you got my first hot seat is probability yep because Eric Reed got his
Starting point is 00:16:33 seventh random piss test after last night's game against the Saints so Eric Reed has been tested by the league I think seven out of I don't know like nine or something weeks okay some nerd out there out there ran the numbers for us so we don't have to do math on the show and they said it's point zero two percent probability okay so I I believe Commissioner Goodell I'm gonna check the shield on this one I will actually you for a second and all these people who are saying it random doesn't mean random player it means random time I'm pretty sure no it's after a game are you sure I think it's after practices to know it's
Starting point is 00:17:10 after a game they sure they test positive I think it's and I thought they tested after practice to random I don't know but basically the clearly he's not random the odds are one out of five thousand that it happens but then I don't know anything about probability because every week probability resets right I do this is now getting too far I don't know thank you tell me too many pigs in a blanket Hank what are the probabilities that Eric Reed is getting randomly tested low do you guys ever feel dumber when you eat more I feel dumber when I learn more I feel dumber when I the more I eat the more we just
Starting point is 00:17:44 did the low man trophy shout out Ben Mason PFT had been Mason call in it was awesome except his low man trophy you can rewatch it you can rewatch it but I ate so many pigs in a blanket that I feel dumber mm-hmm it's a sodium yeah it sucks water away from your brain yeah that's your brain floats and fluid mm-hmm yeah so if you eat a lot that's all the success susceptible to a concussion that's why college yes you are be careful that's what college kids are dumb because they just eat a bunch of ramen yep till they learn better my cool throne is Jack from Twitter oh that was mine too yeah so this is a pretty good
Starting point is 00:18:15 story damn it Jack he he mailed a clipping of his beard hair to Azalea Banks so that she could turn it into an amulet to protect him from Isis that reads like a mad lib yes I don't understand what it means I understand everything I just know that Isis is not going to attack Jack from Twitter anymore it's the cool throne is witchcraft if you don't believe in this stuff you're crazy because Jack Dorsey he's alive is he not mm-hmm at the time of this taping he is alive mm-hmm and he sent in his beard hair to get himself protection against Isis seems like it worked mm-hmm shout out to the red witch yeah
Starting point is 00:18:52 absolutely we got to go back to deaths and I remember the wedding when everybody got killed can I say something that might be a bummer so that's the one thing I know about Game of Thrones they just spoiled it for Hank can I say something that might bum us out so long time AWL's one though we have spoken to death on two separate occasions death is a woman living in an apartment in Manhattan that is probably about a hundred and fifty degrees three if you count the tornado three if you count the tornado is there chance death is dead oh that's a good no because no I didn't look healthy last time David Bowie died
Starting point is 00:19:25 no but it's like the actual our portal to death might be dead oh that'd be rough that's what I'm saying how do we get in touch with right where we have lost contact new number who this yeah you can't collect cold death to do it yeah because you're the one who ends up accepting the charge all right 2019 let's get in touch with death all right New Year's resolution New Year's resolution we'll get back in touch with death all right my hot seat so I had my cool throne was the same as yours witchcraft Jack Dorsey smart move by him mm-hmm my hot seat is people who hate Carrie Underwood's new song on Sunday
Starting point is 00:19:58 football couldn't be me game on I love that game on it's Sunday game on NBC the only place to be game on game on it's Sunday night so anyone who hated that song I don't know not naming names is getting hate so our friend actually Jessica Smetana tweeted about how she doesn't she wants the old song back and Carrie decided to pick her randomly random drug test I have maybe been tweeting about that from weeks one through 14 and then week 15 you guys can both attest I just started singing it and I was like you know what I give up I like this song now well turns out that I got off at the right I was basically like
Starting point is 00:20:46 that guy who who gave away his ticket to the Titanic yeah because that take got sunk by Carrie Underwood saying I would she say oh she said hey I know my music isn't for everyone but I love what I do and I love being a part of Sunday football I am one lucky lady I also love women who build other women up just saying now Jessica's a friend and she didn't mean anything bad she just likes the old the old song more which I I happened to agree with her from weeks one through 14 but you gotta know when to get off a take yeah you just spent you stuck around for one one week too many yeah it's like a perfect storm of
Starting point is 00:21:20 shit that happened so Sunday night football got obsessed with the Collins worth thing yep and then all the heat got taken like in that direction and then she was the everyone was just talking about the sliding yeah and she switched it up at the last second and was like I'm gonna tweet about the song again it got passed to Carrie Underwood who gave an all-time bless your heart yes this is the most passive aggressive I just want women I like women who build up other women yeah hmm and shout out to Jessica for fighting that fight on the internet because I basically I think she like we were like walking to battle
Starting point is 00:21:53 together and then she turned around and I was gone mm-hmm I'm like no I'm actually Carrie and I are very close friends personal friends because I have yeah the first 14 weeks I was bashing it but now I'm on this so you know what they're probably gonna change a song up next year you think so I'm in on game this is what they do it's Sunday night we are so America's game you can condition us to like anything as long as you play football right after you know it could be just like it could be a hamster the sound of a hamster farting and I would get into it by week 15 because it's football that comes afterwards
Starting point is 00:22:28 here is a little tip for all the networks out there that think about changing up their signature song for a primetime game get us warmed up so NBC what they should have done is during the Olympics the winter Olympics or during even like the NBA finals buy some ad space play the game on song yeah like hey guys it's coming this is the new song get ready yours to your dumb gerbil brains won't be able to deal with it unless we warn you and then once week one hits we're like oh we know this song mm-hmm oh that wasn't a change because if there's one thing we don't like it's anyone changing anything on us ever
Starting point is 00:23:05 here's what you do if you're the NFL okay I know that I know that Sunday night football isn't run by CBS but I'm sure there's a close relationship yeah between the NFL and CBS instead of the tick tick tick tick tick at the start of 60 minutes in the offseason play the new song that you're gonna have for that Sunday night and then that way we'll all be happy with it because everybody hates the tick tick tick that's the sound of the Sunday scaries it is tick tick tick tick I would love any song besides that leading into 60 minutes I actually don't remember what the old song was I remember it's Sunday night it's
Starting point is 00:23:39 oh Sunday night oh Alan Chris are the best on TV game on game on is Sunday night that's actually how you just listened live to how our brains yep that's how we've always been at war with East Asia Eurasia whatever it is oh man all right let's let's do our interview with Rachel Nichols before we do that a couple words from our great advertisers cash app listen you guys need to download the cash app they're one of our best advertisers they've been advertising with us for a very long time you already know it's the number one app in finance but we are also giving you the cash apps cash card the cash card comes
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Starting point is 00:26:30 slash PMT okay here she is Rachel Nichols okay we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests it is host of the jump on ESPN Rachel Nichols thank you for joining us and I just it's been so long that we were just saying beforehand like it's you've lived the whole Jimmy Butler experience and back and we haven't spoken to you. Before we jump into that real quick I want to get I want to get an update the last time we talked to you was back in the spring when Bill Walton stole one of your pictures off your wall has he returned that? He has not and because he is irreplaceable the photo is irreplaceable
Starting point is 00:27:10 or our show has no budget I can't decide which it is nothing has put on the wall I did make him I think I told you guys sign the wall where he I was like we gotta leave something there yeah and that has just been there I will say we were able to get a couple of those like potted point sedas for the set but is it point set up point sedia yes I want people listening to know it's Christmas because apparently that's how every television show tells you it is Christmas damn it we have point sedas so we've no photo back in the spot that Bill Walton took the photo but we have point sedas so clearly we're good I
Starting point is 00:27:46 like to put a frame around it but yeah I'll let big cat ask about Jimmy Butler because we talked about it a lot when it happened but we didn't have you on well and the biggest question is I mean obviously it all it was all kind of a whirlwind and you went and interviewed him in Minnesota and before you interviewed him he did his I'm the alpha you guys need me to win practice did you did you feel at any point like he was using you or ESPN to like get his weird message out there it was just such a weird story yeah well so here's that the whole chronology what happened so we you know look I'm known Jimmy since his rookie
Starting point is 00:28:22 year we talk a lot we had talked through the summer and of course the story leaks out that he wants to trade and the first thing I do because I am a big jay journalist is check with him hey Jimmy you want to come on show and talk about this not yet not yet and we talked a few more times sort of through the following week hey Jimmy you want to come out and publicly talk about this not yet not yet so the week before all that happened he was actually in Los Angeles and we had talked about him coming to the set of the jump and actually coming on the show on a Thursday and we had started to sort of have that set up and
Starting point is 00:28:54 then as that was like the night before his agent kind of caught wind that they were talking about a trade to Miami right and if you look back like that's where that whole talk heated up about he was gonna get traded to Miami and they're like oh we don't want to come on the set if this trade happens and we don't want to do anything to ruin it and it got to the point where over the weekend of that that weekend so there was it was so hot and heavy it was kind of big reported like oh all they're doing they're exchanging medicals that the deal is almost done and then the deal falls apart right so by Sunday morning the deal
Starting point is 00:29:24 it's falling apart and Jimmy goes flies back to Minnesota and on Monday I guess he meets with kids in Minnesota and kids basically like I'm not trading you you're gonna have to come back to practice we're gonna stop calling this like what do they call it for the first couple weeks he missed training camp like a hand injury or something or a covering yeah right right right so basically by Monday afternoon or evening you know I just whole process right I had been checking in with Jimmy like hey are we gonna come down and interview in Miami like what are we gonna do this because he hadn't spoken publicly at all since
Starting point is 00:29:58 the spring since the wolves have been eliminated from the playoffs so he had been the biggest one of the biggest stories going in basketball for three months at this point and hadn't said a word publicly so of course big J want to interview right so we're like hey where are we gonna do this you're gonna do this whatever so by Monday afternoon he basically decided okay I'm gonna come back to practice he wants me back I'm gonna come back and of course that means you have to start doing media right so he was okay I want to do a sit-down before I have to do the scrum so we're gonna do it all kind of together so he's
Starting point is 00:30:33 gonna come back to practice do the sit-down and then presumably like the next day just start his regular practice media practice media game practice into that whole thing so that's what the plan was and that's why we went to Minnesota and it's funny because I had a few people saying to me in the ensuing days like oh yeah I guess you just happened to be in Minnesota no we didn't happen to be in Minnesota we don't happen to be anywhere you see an interview you think if we sit down and interview the Steph Curry I ran into him on the street corner in Oakland no that is not what happens every interview is set up
Starting point is 00:31:04 oh that was a setup yes every interview you see on television is set up nobody runs into people with 16 cameras but yeah we were set up to sort of to get his first word since demanding this you know since wanting this trade which we got we also got what happened in practice that day he decided to run a full tour to force both at practice and in our interview and the next day and in the media scrum the next day so yeah I think it was calculated on his part in the way of he wanted to re-enter in this way but it's also it wasn't sort of a last minute thing of like oh I'm gonna go crazy in practice and then I'm gonna do
Starting point is 00:31:40 an interview and I'm gonna use this to do whatever all of this stuff has like a much deeper thread going through it and in our case it lasted like a couple weeks or months sort of leading up to that point and then after that point too and so it's a crazy story it's one of the biggest stories of the fall and we were psyched that we had the interview on it all right so last question about that did you get to see the practice because I heard the report that Jimmy I think actually came from Jimmy that he only actually made what he only shot one shot no man I was on an airplane okay this is all I decided like the night
Starting point is 00:32:11 before so it was in the morning that I flew okay the tail that's a 30 for 30 sometimes it is a short yeah did you know and you still talk to Jimmy how do you think it's going in Philly because I think that's obviously a new interesting story he's going to a team that has a couple superstars in Embiid and Simmons will he be able to gel with them he's obviously their closer now he's making you know last second shots but how do you think it's been going so far for him I think it's good I saw all the guys up in Toronto last week we were did a big like Raptors Sixers game up there and Joel seems like he just you know he's
Starting point is 00:32:44 having some trouble with like figuring out spacing and where he wants to be but that has less to do with Jimmy and much more to do with they need more shooters on that team in terms of personality though Joel likes Jimmy Jimmy likes Joel Ben likes Jimmy I mean they just they all guys seem to get along I saw them cutting up a lot after practice so I think those guys like people who play hard and play defense and they're both out going so I think I think it's going to be a good fit we'll have to see if the NBA though everything explodes every five minutes right yep yep and the other weird news that's happened in the
Starting point is 00:33:13 last couple months that we haven't had a chance to discuss with you yet is the conspiracy theories running around the NBA first obviously had yeah Kyrie last year with the Earth is flat now you've got Steph taking the mantle from them thinking yet the moon landing is a real I think Steph was probably joking about that in the podcast because your first time going on a podcast and you can probably attest to this you say things you're like nobody's gonna listen to shit that's probably how we get most people to open up to us is there like this they look at the room that we record and they're like nobody listens to
Starting point is 00:33:42 these guys yeah I think Steph was just like joking around and said it a little bit tongue-in-cheek and then it spiraled out of control or do you think that he actually believes that now he's like oh shit now I have to actually back up my beliefs first of all I know Steph gets the headlines because he's the most probably famous guy in that pike and that podcast group but it was Steph Curry Vince Carter Andre Aguadala and Kent Baysmore and Steph is like hey what about them they were talking about conspiracy theories which by the way everyone should know better now including you and me as we do this as we
Starting point is 00:34:13 speak and they were like hey what do you think did we really land on the moon and they all chimed in that they thought it was fake and the Stanley Kubrick theory and all of that so is that joking like are you joking you have to tell a joke for joking how does that work listen listen official ruling here's the thing if I'm in a rule if I'm in a room with three other guys and they all agree on something most of the time just gonna be like yeah sounds good yeah well I can be talked into most things I'd be a great cult member yeah they also they need to do a better job like we've basically created an entire life where
Starting point is 00:34:46 we can just say haha it was just a joke whatever you know we say something like that so they need to they need to slow they need to like do baby steps with the haha it's just a joke not jump right into oh yeah the moon landing was in the Las Vegas sound studio and I think that they were having fun and it was a bit of anything goes so I don't know if that counts as joking to Steph's credit I will say he immediately came out and was like no I think the moon landing really happened he did like a 15 minute IG live with Scott Kelly the retired astronaut sort of you know putting on you know educating people about the moon and the
Starting point is 00:35:18 moon landing as opposed to letting it to sort of sit there for a year I know the science teachers of America are grateful but but wait Scott Kelly's never been on the moon he's been around the moon but he's been around the moon yeah so if we yeah that's true around us well I don't know yeah we can't be sure now we're getting who's the next guy that's gonna come out with a conspiracy theory I think if we're putting bets down it's probably Javail saying that JFK was killed by like the mafia that's true I mean that is true I just want to say for the record that's the first one that popped into my head because I actually
Starting point is 00:35:54 believe that yeah I mean I think the thing is if Javail McGee came out with a bunch of conspiracy theories do you think it would even make news yeah it may be it's LeBron saying that the conspiracy theory would be LeBron saying that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald alone yeah yeah yeah would be the conspiracy well yeah if Javail said anything that actually happened people be like what yeah huh we're doing this I mean LeBron came out and said that Javail McGee should be defensive player of the year so that could be a conspiracy theory right there there we go not after he got
Starting point is 00:36:25 dunked on the other night that was a ferocious move by James Harden all right so Rachel give it to me let me down so actually you know what give it to me as honest as possible on a scale of 1 to 10 how big of a joke is the Chicago Bulls organization to everyone else in the NBA I was hoping we're gonna get to this because we led the jump today with the Chicago Bulls talking about her joke is this is it's gonna work Nick Friedle is our insider today he covered the Bulls for a long time for for ESPN.com those were at that was actually his exact word he said around the league when you go around and talk to people the word
Starting point is 00:36:59 they use talking about the Chicago Bulls is a joke joke we'll talk to so so I bet it's coming from him not for me my big thing was look the last time Jim Boylan was a coach the only other time he's been a head coach was at the college level he coached a Utah and that didn't go well there's clips if you want to look from like the desert news at the Salt Lake Tribune saying that half a dozen or more players transferred because of his quote hard-nosed tactics right so he's bringing what you would call right you have to call it like a college coach filed to the NBA of man I'm gonna run you till you drop in practice and we're
Starting point is 00:37:38 gonna have film and we're gonna do this and those like mass substitutions you know in the middle of games and last night I guess during that game against the Thunder you could see there's a couple of stretches where he wanted guys to like press or just stop no he stopped he would he would like almost walk on the court and stop like outlet passes and be like slow down all the way to just like walking to me he seems like the Greg Siano of the NBA it's crazy it's crazy right there's a lot of so I mean look there's two sides of it right there's people who are like oh yeah that's what they need any old-school coach to whip
Starting point is 00:38:12 them into shape and players just want to be held accountable and all that and then there's a lot of people going look if you can't connect with these guys you're gonna lose them and then you know this is not a great team roster wise to begin with I'm sorry to say no it's not your team no but so if you don't have them engaged and and they're not with you then they're not gonna play for you at all so I am I'm gonna give him another month to see if this works but he is going for it with this style and I don't I don't know I haven't seen it work so far 25 last night yeah he got in a fight he got he was took part in a
Starting point is 00:38:48 fight here that's that stat that you were bringing up seven out of ten players who should have been with the Utah program in 2012 had transferred elsewhere it's a joke seven out of 12 to Barry Parker already tried to transfer yeah yeah right Parker's ready to transfer right the the headline in the in the desert or sorry in the Salt Lake Tribune with something like Jim Boylan is burning down the bulls the way he torques the youth or something like that yeah I don't think the good people of Utah I think that this strategy is gonna go places but we'll have to see I have a question for you guys though did you see
Starting point is 00:39:20 when they had that scuffle during the Bull Thunder game and Jim Boylan ran all the way down the court because he was on the bench up the court on the other side yeah um to get involved he puts his arms around the neck Jeremy Grant one of the Thunder players tough love normally you would say hey grab your own player because if Jeremy Grant was a different kind of guy yeah and someone from the opposing team put an arm around your neck I mean I'm thinking about my friend Steven Jackson what he would have done in that I mean it got really ugly in a hurry there right so you're saying suspend him forever indefinitely
Starting point is 00:39:57 agreed I agree we're lucky it didn't get into a situation where we had a player punch well you know the good thing is he probably sat down afterwards and talk to the leadership committee that is comprised of half of the roster how do you tell me that that's the biggest joke ever that that part there's five guys on a leadership committee to speak for 12 guys on the team leadership committee right comes from football where as you note there's like 40 guys right we'll talk to the main three or four guys and they'll disseminate it down this is yeah there's a lot of band-aids going on it's just how I go are you a fire guard
Starting point is 00:40:34 packs there I can't oh big time well I'm a John Paxton has a job for life I actually think that like what you know when he someday in 50 years when he passes like the rhinoceros will put an eternal flame in in his office and that and that and the oil to keep that eternal flame lit will probably hamstring them so they can't sign any free agents and Gar Forman like the fact it's just all a joke and John Paxton I mean his quote I think you guys had the sound clip with Stan Van on on the show yeah when he was like he was like oh well from the outside it looks like it's been a bad week but it means internally it's
Starting point is 00:41:09 been great like get the hell out because it's a good a good week for us in the long run to which family and he said I'd hate to see a bad week right Rachel to me this this Chicago Bulls team just reminds me a hundred percent of our favorite football team the Washington Redskins like the management the way they're talked about around the league is that fair yeah oh yeah I think that's totally fair you mean the team that didn't want to bring in a certain quarterback because they needed a system guy no he didn't fit Mark Sanchez was a better guy for that no we've been over this great you didn't want to bring in
Starting point is 00:41:40 the guy who actually used to back up yeah no that doesn't work it doesn't work have you have you seen the Redskins quarterback play generally over the last like 15 20 years Mark Sanchez is a much better fit for that system than anybody else Doug Williams got roped in by the way to being the one who had to go out and make that statement that's his job that was a river foster right that's his job he is he is the punching bag for for the Redskins organization yeah they were like we need a guy that's grew up that's you know William that was moment for me I guess yeah yeah they got their wires crossed they conducted
Starting point is 00:42:17 their own investigation though using their own sources that's what they said each other they called up Hulk Hogan and they were like hey you live in Tampa have you heard anything and he was like no brother I was out getting a couple blood brother didn't see anything we're good all right let's talk real quick about the West and the Lakers I want to talk more about the Lakers you brought up LeBron earlier too early to say Luke Walton on the hot seat is he going to get fired during the season or after the season because I don't think he's gonna stick around well here's what's funny so Magic Johnson tends to sort of you he's an
Starting point is 00:42:52 emotional guy right as a former player big emotions it's part of what helped him be a Hall of Famer so when things did not get off to a good start he's you know he holds that meeting we heard about where he's cursing out Luke and he's you know the stuff and then it leaks and it doesn't look great because as has been pointed out they didn't really have the roster to do the things that he was yelling at Luke about then they go out and get Tyson Chandler suddenly the team's a lot better so it kind of backs up what Luke was saying where apparently in that meeting he reported we said could you get me another center and boom
Starting point is 00:43:22 they do so then Magic comes out because he's kind of he does say these sort of big things he's all know we're fine that was just a regular meeting and he basically guaranteed Luke's job for the rest of the season in those quotes so now he's kind of back himself into a corner I don't see Luke Walton on the hot seat because Magic Johnson said he's gonna be around for the rest of season barn something catastrophic so there you go and also who you're gonna replace him with right yeah assistant are you gonna put B Shaw there I mean who's I like Brian Shaw a lot but I wouldn't see like oh we're replacing Luke
Starting point is 00:43:56 Walton with Brian Shaw that's gonna you know make such a big difference I think that they're a good team kind of you know they're good tandem Luke and Brian as they are I don't know who's out there who you're like oh my god this is the magic bullet we need to replace Luke Walton with who well whoever LeBron chooses yeah counterpoint their Lakers like Luke Walton is a four game losing streak or really bad LeBron wine hangover away from being fine right LeBron some all yeah well now coach the team yeah right now he's just cranky he's cranky one morning like boom you're gone buddy I have to say I'm much more
Starting point is 00:44:32 interested in the Anthony Davis Derby that's going on that to me is gonna be the big story for the next couple months and then we'll probably take a pause on it and it will be a story again starting in July but that's how it affects the late Lakers you guys want to hear this is the interesting CBA wrinkle give you that insider insider NBA yes yes yes before you do that though I just want to tip my cap that was great work by you to distract us from bashing LeBron there for a minute that was a great transition yeah so yes go we'll be arriving on time this month as Maverick Carter will be bringing you personally bringing the
Starting point is 00:45:06 check to your front door dude I wish man I need some wine I need a lot more if that's really the arrangement I need a lot more so I can need you guys to negotiate for me can we work on that for the next fancy anyway um no so listen to this so we've all been talking about the fact that Anthony Davis is gonna get offered a super max by the pelicans this summer right they're gonna offer him a gazillion dollars I think that is the official sum that they're gonna offer him and he has said he wants to wait and see how this team does this season and then he'll decide does he want to take the gazillion dollars and basically
Starting point is 00:45:37 sign on with the pelicans for five more years kind of cementing him in New Orleans for his entire career or does he say no I'm turning down the super max extension which means that New Orleans will still have his rights for another year but they will then look to trade him because you want to get value back for Anthony Davis you don't want to be like Oklahoma City where Kevin Durant just walked away right so the feeling is gee the pelicans not in a playoff spot right now in the West people are starting to see the writing on the wall and they're like man it's hard to see Anthony Davis accepting the gazillion
Starting point is 00:46:08 dollars accepting the super max that means we think the next domino would be that the pelicans would want to trade him and we expect to have like this big derby breakout between the Celtics and the Lakers who both have made it clear that they really want them and there you go it's Danny age versus magic Johnson again whatever that's been a big story line the whole season here's a little insider cork you can impress your friends with that there's a little provision in the CBA that you can't have something that has you can't trade for something that's called a designated player if you already have one on your
Starting point is 00:46:38 it has to do with a rookie extension someone has signed so Kyrie Irving was acquired by the Celtics and he is on a designated player extension now his current deal is up this summer so once Kyrie has a new contract they could trade for Anthony Davis who is on who we've also designated player on that kind of contract but unless the Celtics trade Kyrie Irving for Anthony Davis that trade couldn't happen the Celtics couldn't acquire him they could not throw the kitchen sink at the pelicans until they give Kyrie a new contract this summer so if you're the LA Lakers and you want to shot at Anthony Davis
Starting point is 00:47:17 without Danny age and all his pile of assets competing with you when do you want to try to acquire Anthony Davis do you want to wait till the summer when Danny ages free to make any deal he wants or do you want to try to do it now that's that's good boy how's the trick question I feel like they should do it now how far inside every GM's head is Danny age are they just all running around just scared of what Danny's gonna do at any given time dude if Danny age calls you you should just hang up the phone right okay I'll make a note of that if they were broken just cut them off just hang up just invite him on say
Starting point is 00:47:49 welcome and then hang up the phone because he will flee shoot by the time interviews over yeah yeah true yeah the Markel Foltz thing is like that's gonna hang over the Sixers for a while yeah he'll have Bubba producing videos for him by the time we get off the air the Kevin Garnett thing with the Timberwolves or the next big I mean every or or by the way the I say it as they had Thomas for Irving deal yeah mm-hmm yeah mm-hmm yeah that's true hang up the phone done that's the thing I mean and by the way I know that pelican fans if I do a pelican fans listening to this yeah yeah absolutely okay I know what they're
Starting point is 00:48:23 doing they're shouting at their car radio or whatever right now being like dude you don't believe so maybe he won't leave and that's great and then none of this is an issue but it's an interesting wrinkle and I'm sitting here looking out the window staring at the Staples Center right now and if you think the Lakers haven't discussed that they have a more clear run at Anthony Davis now than they will in the summer you're mistaken okay so who would the Lakers have to get rid of in order to get Anthony Davis I mean I think they'd offer anyone anyone wanted except a LeBron yeah yeah right when you yeah they would have to I mean
Starting point is 00:48:57 especially they like they're they're in that classic spot too where they like Ingram obviously they think they like Lonzo ball but at some point trading like guys who have the upside for a guy who's the sure thing is a no-brainer there is nobody on that roster that you wouldn't trade to get Anthony Davis playing with LeBron James no big cap brought up a guy that we haven't talked about in a while surprisingly Lonzo ball what more specifically his dad is he just like out of the picture do they have him living on an island somewhere without like a cell phone or the internet maybe that's where LeBron's money and Psalmier is
Starting point is 00:49:33 going to oh LaVar ball as the next coach of the Lakers is that what you're saying I'm just no I'm just saying that maybe they're paying him off that way he's been a little too quiet that's all I'm saying I'm just well something don't you think it's something man yeah you know he goes you actually when you see Maverick every month he's like I just was at LaVar's yeah good to see you again this deal has not been negotiated for me you guys got to get on it okay all right so well speaking of names that have not been said in a long time we ready for another one Camilla Anthony that's not true I said his name on the
Starting point is 00:50:11 on our television show today okay so tell us in what he was he was spotted my best like got to tell him this word got the girl with TMZ spotted having dinner with LeBron James last night in New York City whoa LeBron's and you are here now yeah the Lakers were there played in that they're playing that tonight the city isn't big enough yeah two of us where they go to eat that I don't know but you can check your TMZ because it was on there oh we were on TMZ too yeah we shared an episode of TMZ with LeBron James how about that interesting what are you guys on TMZ for how did I not know that big sex type thing
Starting point is 00:50:49 yeah TMZ clips the data white had a got a phone call from the president's office and he was trying to just brag to us about it pretty much yeah it's short of it here's another name we haven't said in a while boogie cousins when's he coming back oh I think after Christmas but he's he's getting there he's doing like those rehabbing stints with the G-league team yep but he's not playing so he's just on practice he played he played one-on-one back before Christmas day yeah he played one-on-one against Kevin Durant that was what everyone said that's true I think Kevin Durant probably Kevin Durant is
Starting point is 00:51:26 and then no that wouldn't work because he won never mind we're gonna say they really tried to switch to boogie one and then Kevin Durant tried to switch teams and play 2-1-0 yeah I'm on boogie's team now we're lighting all right I have one last question it's a seek eat question you put in promo code take you get $10 off go to an MBA game is is Kauai Leonard falling in love with Toronto mmm that should be on TMZ yes right no I don't know how who would know who could possibly know with how many words he says publicly well here's the correct answer is no he doesn't he's not falling in love because he doesn't have
Starting point is 00:52:04 emotions yeah he doesn't know it's a robot so he he doesn't have a heart yet he laughs yeah him and Nick say and laugh the same way they both have like a button they're like it is appropriate to laugh now so I will push my tickle button but have you heard anything like if you heard anything because it's gonna be obviously a very interesting story and I we always play this game like well if the Raptors go to the finals he'll definitely stay I don't know if that's ever the case because if that was the case then Kevin Durant probably would say with the Thunder to finish the you know the unfinished business and all
Starting point is 00:52:33 that stuff so he's gonna make up his mind before that probably one way or the other right I know he's matching well there we were up there about a week and a half ago like you know he's obviously fitting him well with the team you know he's playing well they're doing well they're leading the NBA their best record in the NBA like but you're right like does that mean that he's gonna stay this summer I don't think there's a way to know because he hasn't told anyone including the Raptors by the way what he is making his decision based on so yeah it's hard to walk away from a team that went to the finals except we just
Starting point is 00:53:05 saw LeBron do that this year right yeah so I just I don't know I can't I can't know what his decision is gonna be I don't know what Anthony Davis's decision is gonna be because they haven't told us what they're basing it on and Kawhi is kind of the most inscrutable of all of them so I don't know I'm gonna send him a point that I'll send you guys a point that I'll we can all be Christmas-y together maybe he'll open up to us yeah we'll get the petty wars going there's gonna be a lot of there's a lot of simmering petty wars right now that we'll get going with all like the player movement and we haven't even talked
Starting point is 00:53:37 about Kevin Durant clearly he's gonna come to New York I wish that Kawhi had one of like he's not very active online I wish he had an Instagram account that we could see like what he's liking but he probably wouldn't do anything salacious it would just be like those the clips of things that fit perfectly together those like short like two second clips like this will make you feel so much better it's like two Lego blocks perfectly interacting there's um I think he has a Twitter account like a confirmed Twitter account but I don't think he's tweeted on it and you know it's like one of those like
Starting point is 00:54:08 last active or whatever he doesn't get along well with other robots that's why it doesn't use electronics if you were to give me a mystery team out of the east so let's just say okay the Raptors the Bucks I think the Bucks are really good from what I've seen from them I don't think that they're going anywhere but if it if it's not gonna be one of those two teams who's gonna win the east Boston still a contender there right I said one team though you're not allowed to stay Boston and Philly because I know that's where you're going next I'm gonna say the teams that are doing well I know I don't I can't I can't
Starting point is 00:54:41 predict the future I wouldn't be talking to you losers that being lost oh that's true that's fair that's fair I'll say Milwaukee I love you but you know I love you too I'm not no no no not until the beer he's definitely again this summer yeah you follow me I don't remember what I was doing it was more important than having a beer you're you're a bagel in the office I have now been stood up two summers in a row by you yep yep it's playing hard to get yeah let's wrap it up you have a last question no you get okay my last last question I've done like five last last questions but I want
Starting point is 00:55:24 to know if you think we are on to something when we say LeBron James went out west so the people on the east coast and the Midwest could not stay up to watch his games and not see him not try on defense so we all still think LeBron is really good and tries really hard in the regular season that's like that's the strategy yes I just heard the gun clicking next year I am right here I think I think the secret was out on how much he plays the first three regular season last year yeah well that's right he did that we to refer to you to a game in San Antonio in the middle of last yeah well that
Starting point is 00:56:08 clip where he like tried to kick the ball out of someone's hands I like that that was awesome that's me when I'm playing like pick a basketball once a year yeah I mean he's turning 34 this month right yeah I mean you know oh I actually do your way into shape yeah I actually do have one last last last last that I have one after big yeah um do you know who followed me on Twitter the other day this is gonna be a good question Wendy no yep okay but he followed me I was like yes let's go he might have been just like looking at his phone and passed out on to his nose yeah follow he's
Starting point is 00:56:49 following fall season he might you know what I'm using to follow me and doesn't anymore what do you think that means wait who Jenna Jameson yeah that's you must have done something to make red now I'm putting it all together Maverick Carter probably had Wendy follow me to keep tabs on me cuz he's in the he's in the Lebron mafia as well yeah that doesn't that doesn't explain my Jenna Jameson problem yeah I can't explain that Jenna Jameson well she's got very high standards yeah I guess so yeah I won't have a beer with me and Jenna Jameson won't follow me on Twitter anymore yeah she's actually a listener of
Starting point is 00:57:26 the show things are going downhill for me she's a big fan of guys on chicks so Jenna follow Rachel back I do have one last last last last is that the last question around there for you what's wrong with the Rockets are they okay do they need like a psychiatrist I think they need you I mean right well maybe they need Jim Boilins with them in the shade yes yes run some laps things like that I don't know I would they put a little better recently James Harden has had like 240 point plus games this week we kind of all think Barrymore is gonna make a trade but who for right so they'll be interesting I don't think
Starting point is 00:58:04 they're gonna be the top scene in the West this year I think I can go out on the limb and say that yeah that's a good action oh Hank had there you go Hank had actually just texted us he has a last last last last last last question oh my god will Carmela Anthony ever play in the NBA again oh I don't know that is that's so interesting see to me if I had been Carmelo this summer I mean well there's a lot of things that would have changed in my life but in particular I would have gone to a different kind of team then he picked with then in picking the Rockets like to me I would necessarily have gone to a team that's
Starting point is 00:58:39 quote competing for a championship and I'm saying that not as a dig at Houston but just the idea of like that's not necessarily like why not just go to a team where you can play as much as you want you can shoot as much as you want sort of be there for the young guy right and then just you know kind of like doing Wade with the heat like it's great when he contributes yeah and when he doesn't nobody cares and he's sort of helping with the young guys and he's a draw and people love mellow and players love mellow man if you talk to players in locker rooms you've been in they love mellow the guys in Oklahoma City have
Starting point is 00:59:11 nothing but good things to say about him the guys in Houston have nothing but good things to say about him like I if I if I had been him I would have done this season it's like a final season on a team where there wasn't like a ton of pressure and maybe even a team were like winning and losing wasn't the main thing it was about developing the young guys and getting in a good draft position and you know it could have had a nice font song and like had a lot of celebrations for him as he went from place to place I don't know now if the team like that would pick him up or what but I just think there's there's more
Starting point is 00:59:42 than one way to go about your career I'm someone who watched Michael Jordan at the end in Washington and I know everybody would have preferred it if he had just walked off the court in Chicago after beating Utah with Chicago and never played again but he wanted to play he still wanted to play basketball so I'm okay if a guy later in his career who's gonna be a Hall of Famer just wants to keep playing basketball there's just different teams in different ways you can do it agree okay yeah and I also like everyone loves mellow because everyone loves mellow because he's never like you never worried that Mel's gonna win a
Starting point is 01:00:12 championship so yes everyone is like yeah we probably pays for a bunch of stuff we love mellow we love playing against mellow like we just know he's gonna get his shots up but don't worry about it Rachel thank you as always it's been fun to catch up everyone watch the jump it is great to one one person on that show who appears on that show routinely follows me on Twitter that's nice to know yep yeah do you have any last questions for us last last last questions when are you getting some points that is oh yeah got actually cold point said he is yeah we can't keep a gold fish a lot this is what I asked at
Starting point is 01:00:46 the beginning yeah you didn't help me out oh wow Jenna Jameson actually follows me oh shit see yeah you follow me now I don't follow her but she used to follow me and then she unfollowed me maybe that's cuz I don't follow her yeah probably or maybe yeah never mind I was gonna say I was gonna get myself in trouble with I lose sleep over jenna Jameson a lot too there you go just like just like five minutes of sleep you got it you got it dude that interview with Rachel that interview with Rachel Nichols was also brought to you by four Hems we love four Hems it's for
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Starting point is 01:03:27 wearing the velour looking like velour velvet is it not for I don't know it is it is whatever it is it what is more no I just said whoa like whoa yeah the lore is nice yes it is the velour jumpsuit it looks awesome I look like I look like Silvio right before he kills Adriana Adriana yeah in the car yeah I agree yeah alright it looks like Pauly when maybe when he's like in the woods and pine bearing yeah or pussy when he gets killed on that boat yeah or like you know who you remind me of right now because you're so fluffy and warm and all snug in like a little meanest thing you could say to a fat guy but no no you look
Starting point is 01:04:04 meanest thing I would so much rather fat than fluffy no but you you do look fluffy and comfortable and snug like you're inside of a couch like cosette Adriana's dog when Christopher sat on her and killed her yeah when he was too high yeah weep all these out okay yeah we know we don't want to ruin it please okay please absolutely you you can trust me mm just like Tony said okay let's do some segments for look like a dire wolf that just got killed mm-hmm I don't know what it is yeah cuz it doesn't exist anymore cuz you got killed in episode now they still come out there Hank so people forget Hank is watching the shows
Starting point is 01:04:45 goes in reverse order out there Game of Thrones yeah alright first up we have a pinstripe update for Bryce Harper who has not signed with anyone where's he going to sign we don't know he's been rumored pinstripes with the white socks mm-hmm with the Phillies with the Cubs with the Yankees the Yankees are the Rockies involved the Rockies I don't know they got pinstripes the Brewers so where the hell is Bryce Harper going to go I think with hair like that you got to look at LA I think he's thinking about becoming Calibro going to LA maybe SD it's there the Bryce Harper signing is gonna be very weird because it's either
Starting point is 01:05:22 gonna be the mystery team but that's not really a mystery you I mean like the Yankees the Cubs like oh yeah you know what we'll pay all this money or one of like the white socks will just like you know what blank check let's do it and everybody what we thought he's gonna go to the Yankees this whole time mm-hmm this is kind of disappointing I mean I I wouldn't rule out the white socks just because he's bros the Chris Bryant so it's a way of going to Chicago without I actually think they're legitimately going yeah and the white socks are legitimately going for it yeah they're they're going for it and he wouldn't
Starting point is 01:05:48 feel like he was like taking any shine away from his buddy from his boy from his boy yeah I'll stay on the south side you stay up north there we go each have our own little kingdoms yeah do you think that he where do you think he's gonna go Hank make it bold predict prediction Phillies okay okay that's very bold it feels like every team that he has been rumored to has been like no we're good well he was weird because he only wants four hundred million dollars right they don't want to underpay him he's gonna be a little little bit yeah all right next up we have a state classy pft you have the state classy yeah this state
Starting point is 01:06:20 classy goes to Rick Barnes he's a coach of Tennessee and Penny Hardaway our good friend at the University of Memphis we're saying that right yes yeah we know Mike Miller great friend Penny Hardaway was talking about a little scrap that his team had Rick Barnes is running his mouth about the Memphis players saying that they were flopping and stuff like that and then Penny said I just call like I see it no matter how he's trying to make things seem I think it's kind of low-class how he's trying to downgrade my guys for flopping and all that come on give me a break then he stands up to walk out of the room and goes Rick Barnes
Starting point is 01:06:53 get the fuck out of here yes yeah yeah this is like Don Cheney versus John Calpari back in the day yeah we need coach fighting in college basket coach fighting yes but when it happens in the states of Kentucky or Tennessee it's actually a feud yes they're haffield and McCoy's yep they're going after it's a blood feud guess what we're team penny yeah we are team penny big-time team penny although I love O'Brien Schofield for Tennessee he's a man yeah he is good but I just can't root for Tennessee since well one they took the offer away from Greg Siano number two they the whole Bruce Pearl situation I can't I
Starting point is 01:07:29 can't like a coach at Tennessee that's not taking a shirt off and painting his body orange and jumping around that's fair what but what about smokey oh I do like but smokey doesn't rocky top does smokey go to the the games indoors I'm sure where's EP I don't know I don't think they like oh wait yeah because the bulldogs go inside to like the Drake bulldogs smokey yeah rock tops great because they sing it even if they lose yeah non-stop I like the song great song I like the song yeah great tune great tune we're gonna do it no what came on it's on that's rocky top all right next up we have connect the dots PFT give me
Starting point is 01:08:05 this as well the connect the dots comes courtesy of Kyrie Irving big take connect the dots guy he actually came to Steph Curry's defense about the moon comment okay so Kyrie says that we're just athletes but it's on your channel worth thinkers but you don't want us to be that so whomever you is whom step or you is I don't know what that mold is so I'm gonna have to connect the dots and Kyrie's brain I like this because it basically this whole like we can we should question everything even things that are facts it really opens the door for a lot of us dumb people out there yeah because we can basically pretend that
Starting point is 01:08:44 we're smart by saying well is it is it a fact no yeah I don't know no you're totally right yes you can you can say anything as long as you follow it up with we're just asking the question yeah we're just mad at somebody listen my teacher in first grade told me there's no such thing as a dumb question yes exactly and so there we are we are back in first grade and I just I like this because now the new the new us we can walk around and just say well we're just gonna question that is a sky blue we don't know I don't know actually it's not no it's not I don't think it's blue it isn't yeah it's the Sun that hits it
Starting point is 01:09:18 right in a different way and it turns out the color of ice exactly so cold exactly does water freeze at 32 degrees Fahrenheit what is who decided what Fahrenheit exactly Hank you I can tell Hank you are you're in on this the wheels the hamster is running fast in your brain who made up Fahrenheit how is the sky black but also blue oh there we go go on yeah go on King like if you're looking at someone an astronaut was looking down on earth yeah the sky is would never change oh it's because the Sun I guess no no don't you want you to believe I bet a teacher told you that yeah that's what they want you to believe
Starting point is 01:09:56 don't let them the same teacher that told you that the metric system was coming and made you learn all these weird abbreviations and everything's perfectly hundred Hank name one thing you've ever used the metric system before besides drugs nothing nothing not a damn thing oh besides let me clarify a little asterisk here besides drugs and watching World Strongest Man on ESPN2 cooking right maybe cooking you cook with milliliters of stuff no you can't blame the metric system on the fact that you put the cheese into the the pasta while it was still boiling you can't blame that actually I think that you can
Starting point is 01:10:33 actually get you know what question yeah who decided the who decided the back of the Annie's Mac huh you know what that was written by a person yeah not God yeah a fallible person like me or you why why do we have to believe what they said yeah don't tell me how much medicine to question it don't tell me which order to make macaroni and cheese the easiest dish in the world to make don't do that it's my body I'll drink as many beers as I want all right Hank guys on chicks guys on chicks uh hey PMT boys big cat wink oh how do I do with my husband's terrible family on Christmas hmm get drunk or gamble on the game
Starting point is 01:11:12 Raiders Broncos that's gonna be worse that would actually be a nice wrinkle if you just showed up you're like who's got money on the game yeah like I put the mortgage I put a mortgage the house on the Broncos yeah real easy way to get them to just like not invite you places yeah exactly just look at your phone the whole time with the game on it fake like you have diarrhea that one actually is real hit on your mother-in-law but here's the thing as I know that's what he's saying yeah spice it up it's 28 hit on her be like wow that's a really those are really cute pearls even though they're way too big and they're kind of
Starting point is 01:11:43 gaudy and like she shouldn't be wearing those at a family holiday because it's kind of showy yeah but you're wearing a pearl necklace yeah just be like oh nice pearl necklace I wish that my husband would give me one of those that's a conversation starter that it might be a conversation ender but it definitely is a starter so fellas I'm pregnant and I was just wondering if the baby poops and peas and if so where does it go I think it just goes out your butt yeah that's actually oh that's a whoa mm-hmm wait do babies poop because they're all they're drinking wait no they drink breast milk after they have died babies have diarrhea
Starting point is 01:12:18 I'm pretty sure yeah they they they are born with like everyone was born with diarrhea mm-hmm think about that that's like a way to humble everyone like hey oh man you know Bill Gates billionaire Jeff Bezos billionaire well guess what they all were born with diarrhea mm-hmm right now it's very true they all used to crap themselves it's like the circle of life mm-hmm you're born and you die with diarrhea mm-hmm my boyfriend is a terrible sleeper he pushes me off the bed flailing his limbs hitting me and violently farting he needs help I need to sleep what do I do by a bigger bed sounds like you're sleeping in how do
Starting point is 01:12:56 you push someone off a bed I think just by rolling just by doing a barrel you're in a twin bed time to upgrade to a queen or a king get the king feel it feel the luxury of life you don't have a king come on this sounds like a dorm room situation yeah yeah so here's all you do okay push your bed up against the wall and then you sleep against the wall yeah all he just kind of squishes you against there you don't fall off I'm a I'm a very I'm a very animated sleeper myself big tip is get it very cool the cooler it is in the room the less I move around like a corpse you gotta you gotta you gotta cool me down otherwise I run
Starting point is 01:13:32 hot I run real hot so basically if you sleep in a bed big cat you're either gonna be shivering or he's gonna be farting on you yeah I run hot pick your poison hopefully the person who sleeps in your bed at Super Bowl whoever wins the PMT Fan Duel Contest yeah does not run hot no I'm real violent I see I get the one like you sleep with an axe in your hand yeah I get the full body jerk yeah whenever I go to sleep and so whatever weapon I happen to be holding at the time trust me I have a history of purchasing weapons at the Super Bowl right before bed yeah yeah it's true all right we asked we asked the females to
Starting point is 01:14:08 send the worst Christmas gift they've ever been given so I'm gonna run through some of those okay okay worst gift I ever received was a custom-made 14 carat white gold necklace with my birthstone and his birthstone along with a love poem he left it on my doorstep but I've never gone past casual conversation with him in person I called the jeweler to find out the value wow it's worth $400 but it's non-returnable why I tried to pawn it in the best offer I got was $27 wow so this is just from a dude that like knows you wow that's a bit much beautiful necklace though yeah you sounded lovely here's the thing though
Starting point is 01:14:41 you got to give it back because that's actually a power move if you give it back I like if you take it $27 move if you take it he's technically dating you yeah that's true that's a contract mm-hmm some boys last year for Christmas my boyfriend got me a gift card for a Brazilian wax should I have been insulted that he didn't think I've been doing a good enough job shaving or was it a thoughtful gift I think it was a very thoughtful gift that guy had nothing to do with your personal height to the balls on him or the inability to pick up like social cues what a hero mm-hmm and by hero I mean a fucking
Starting point is 01:15:14 idiot yeah hey I know you love those protein shakes so I got you a flat of slim fast hey I I was thinking it was a little dirtier on the apartment so I got you a vacuum cleaner hey I got you a bunch of flavored lube yeah here you go when I asked my boyfriend what he wanted for Christmas he said he doesn't want anything that means he's a low maintenance or he doesn't see me as his girlfriend he wants cash yeah cash would be nice he wants cash or just like boys yes just give him a night with a voice oh one of those maybe give him one of those like yeah coupons free hug free free dick sucking who knows from who
Starting point is 01:15:48 uh no but seriously he just wants cash he probably owes his bookie a lot no I'm serious yeah that's what you would say I don't want anything when you well no when you say you don't want anything you want cash mm-hmm right yeah yeah yeah basically here's the cash wouldn't hurt no one has turned out in the history of the world mm-hmm all right last one the worst gift a guy I was dating went on vacation and told me he got me a souvenir he kept forgetting it when we hung out and finally one day he was like okay I'm giving you your gift we went to a park with some beer and he made me unwrap a rock we are in public and I
Starting point is 01:16:22 started dying laughing I was like wow a rock cool and he goes actually it's a piece of coral even fucking better I had uncontrollable laughter and dumped him the next week oh coral is rock right yeah and also jokes on you because you were laughing at coral and coral is instrumental to our oceans health and it probably is the core if you heard about the coral getting bleached mm-hmm I have the coral gets bleached like an asshole oh yeah the world is getting hotter and we're all gonna die because you don't respect mother nature mm-hmm or not to maybe not to be a downer maybe was just telling you that you should get your
Starting point is 01:17:00 asshole bleach look how beautiful hey isn't this coral so beautiful yet and light-colored and you just want to just touch it maybe eat it a little bit yeah he's the Brazilian wax guy with more tact exactly yeah he learned you're the you're the one uh-huh exactly no corals a crazy present to give what the fuck that is insane I don't probably scuba diver one of those guys like I'm going to club bed I'm not to fuck I don't think scuba dive I don't think that was coral I think that he just like totally he obviously forgot to get her something and then later on he's like shit okay it's been like two weeks first I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:17:33 get her drunk so she doesn't realize where she'd give this is and second here's I'm he should just go with geode yeah why did you have to stretch for coral just be like here's a geode you can buy a geode for $1.50 at a store and trick her into thinking that it's made out of diamonds you know the geodes bro no it's you know right you guys don't know what a geode is sounds like a game or like a toy no it's the rocks that have crystals inside of them okay so you were very big in a geodes listen listen it's more than a rock okay you why did you just say the rock with crystals in the rock we all know what that is yeah
Starting point is 01:18:05 you don't have to fucking be like oh I'm so much smarter than I know it's a geode now you know it's a geode sounds like a shitty car that either like doesn't have a backseat yeah it is it's like yeah the geotrackers before geode yeah yeah god is your starter car listen $14,000 I guess Millennials killed geodes they did job guys I know what you're talking about it is it's the like rocks that you that they have little diamonds and not diamonds but crystals and shit in it you know what that is Hank but I'm speaking to you in layman's turn it's the crystal rocks it's the cool-looking rock yeah it's a rock it's a rock it's
Starting point is 01:18:39 that leveled up no yeah I know exactly how to explain it's the rock that you think is worth something but it's actually completely worthless mmm those rocks those are the geodes yeah no you're thinking of seagull movie with Kevin Hart yeah deep cut deep cut deep cut all right we'll see everyone Friday guys Hank you know what Geo is it's part of my take presented by barstool sports you

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