Pardon My Take - Rams HC Sean McVay, Jerry O’Connell With A Schefty Sneak Attack, Fyre Fest And More

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

NFL Cuts are happening and Joey Bosa ends an era for the Chargers franchise. DK wants a trade (00:00:00-00:14:03). College hoops and national sports podcast topics plus Hank still hasn’t started fading Big Cat’s streak (00:14:03-00:31:23). Jerry O’Connell joins the show to preview the Oscars and gets sneak attacked by Schefter who has a few questions on how exactly he will run the PMT fantasy team (00:31:23-01:02:21). Rams Head Coach Sean McVay joins the show to talk football, Stafford, when he got comfortable being himself as a Coach, an incredible story from his hiring, and we help him with his acronyms (01:02:21-01:39:38). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:39:38-02:07:21).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a tremendous two for the people. We have our good friend Jerry O'Connell on to get to the bottom of not only the Oscars, little Oscars preview, but also what's going on with our fantasy team. There also might be a special guest that joins us in the middle of the interview Oscars, little Oscars preview, but also what's going on with our fantasy team. There also might be a special guest that joins us in the middle of the interview to ask Jerry a few questions about his strategy and fantasy.

The consultant, the consultant, consigliere, if you will. And then we have Sean McVay, Super Bowl winning head coach, Sean McVay, good friend of the program. Great talk with him. We're going to talk, we're getting closer and closer to free agency. We got guys asking for trades. We're getting closer and closer to March madness. We talk a little poops and we'll finish off the week with Fire Fest of the week as always. And it's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Who's scoring big in the NBA this season? You are with the all new ways to get in on the action at DraftKings

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Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to get $150 in bonus bits when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings the crown is yours today is Friday March 7th and we're getting closer and closer to NFL free agency boys we've got a lot of movement Joey Bosa cut. Mm-hmm. DK Metcalf wants out. He does. I don't know where we want to start. You know what?

Let's start with Joey Bosa because we have memes got his wisdom teeth pulled. So we have Shane in the booth. Joey Bosa cut. I think people expected it. The chargers are going to save $25 million. But it is the end of an era because Joey Bosa is the last charger to have played in San Diego. That's crazy. I did not know that. Yes. So yeah, it's over. No more San Diego chargers, but I heard rumors that he might want to go up to the Bay, play with his brother. Ooh, the Bosa brothers together. He also, I mean, I, it'll be interesting to where he goes because he said himself, he's like,

I don't have a lot of time left because you know, he's got, he's, he's dealt with injuries. Um, but he is, would you say Shane and all time charger? Oh, he's gonna say he's not even turn on the mic. He's so he's so he's so upset about this. Press the button chain. Wow. Yeah, for sure. All time charger. Five time Pro Bowl or yet. Yeah. The year. Did you know this was coming? What was my I think his cap? It was like yeah 36. Oh Hank

Hey, Hank is hey Hank just goes after whoever is in that seat. Hey, he just said what a resume What a resume is there anything else to his resume that you'd like to add to impress Hank? He was rookie of the year five-time Pro Bowler Defensive rookie of the year. Okay, you already said that. Yeah. Well, that's like his Five-time Pro Bowler injuries. I mean it's bound to happen. Okay, a already said that? Yeah, well, that's like his... Five-time Pro Bowler? A lot of injuries, I mean, it's bound to happen, but... Okay, a lot of injuries. I mean, not really.

All time. All time. I mean, it's the Chargers, man, we have nothing. Ring of Honor? I mean, doubt it, but... Okay, I think you're dismissing the five-time Pro Bowler, Hank. Five-time Pro Bowler. Everyone makes the Pro Bowler.

I mean, it's the Chargers, like, it's not like we're like a notable franchise in the history of the NFL. That's true. One Super Bowl appearance, we got blown out by like 35 points. True facts. But you're sad to see him go, obviously, but you knew it was happening. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It's sad because like right when I was getting into football, like for the most part, I could

start watching Chargers games was like his rookie season. So it's kind of like sad to see him go, but he just hasn't hasn't been healthy, costs way too much money. It's bound to happen. Okay. All right. So I mean, it wasn't, it's not shocking in the fact that I think we all expected it's more shocking that there's just another piece that is out there right now. And will he go to a contender? Will he try to take top dollar? I think he's at the point in his career where he wants to win something. I'd agree. He's gotten paid a shitload of money. Yeah. And I feel like he will probably sign somewhere for maybe less than the open market might necessarily dictate. Maybe one of

his college coaches was maybe variable to variable coach him in college yeah oh you've already connected the dots have you been working on the boats of shrug what is that he do the shrug he does that shrug wait there you go that's good mean or shane shane sorry uh you're shaking your head no after all the shit you just gave him for being like

an all-time charger you want him on the Patriots yeah it's good point you did you want a five-time he just he's devaluing them in the open market. I Just again, I'm spoiled with greatness. So it's like when you talk about all-time players of a franchise Five time pro bowler rookie of the year is not exactly all-time. It's just a good solid play. This is very smart by Hank Yeah, yeah

You'll at this point you would just you I guess you would take him. Yeah Yeah, and then the other big news DK Metcalf wants out he wants out He wants to go to a contender to I think and he also wants a new contract I have I have a place that I would like to see DK. Okay Don't say the Packers. I'm not gonna say the Packers. I personally would like to see DK on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh Him and George him and Georgie out there together. What would the analytics look like? If you're if you're in the Steelers front office, you have to basically, like write in a certain amount of penalty yards per game. Yeah, the two of them.

Yeah, you have to have a very it's a personality type thing. You have to you have to be like borderline personality disorder. I don't think DK necessarily. he's not he's not a complete psycho but he goes up to that line because he's he plays with a lot of aggression right I think he's like a good mentally healthy version of George Pickens yes yes so do we have any idea where he might like what's where's he rumored I know the packer where you see the Packers like the Patriots have inquired about him. Hank, would you want DK? What's his resume? A two time pro bowler three time. He's under contract now. So he,

he would, you'd have to trade picks probably a first or third, maybe a second and a third for DK. I would like to get on the Patriots for sure. So I think most teams should want him. He's a very good player. Draft Kings on turn, but he's a great player. Yeah. Draft Kings odds have him. DK Metcalf next team, three to one Seahawks three to one Chargers. That would be interesting Yeah, that would be a great weapon for Justin Herbert 3.51 plus 350 to the Patriots plus 550 to the Texans and plus 700 the Raiders He does feel like a Raider. He feels like a Raider. He look good in the Raider uniform He does feel like I think he'd also look good in a Bills uniform. I think the Bills should want DK too. I did text DK when the news broke

and I just said, Hey, DK, I dare you to go to the commanders. And what'd he say? You won't. And then he just didn't reply. Okay. Well, that's not a no. But now I double dog dare him. Yeah, that's not a no. What's in your court, DK? The Bears made a couple moves interior line not sexy, but needed. I like very much needed Yeah, Joe Tooney Jonah Jackson very much needed So flexibility may be going into the draft where they don't have to just they can take best player available fun fact about Joe Tooney Did you know that he finished in the top 10 in offensive player of the year last year? I did not he also won team MVP for the Chiefs. That's really yes That's gonna be a chip on the shoulder from Holmes next year. Mm- not. He also won team MVP for the Chiefs. That's really yes. That's going to be a chip on the shoulder from Holmes next year. But yeah, he's I mean, he's older,

but this is also like the the Joe Jackson's six rounder, you're not going to get a six rounder that can play guard right away. And he got moved to center last year. Yeah. And then he wasn't great at center. And by the time they got healthier at the guard, he lost his spot. And Joe Tuni's similar. He got moved to tackle out of position. He's going to go back to guard. So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm happy that the Bears are addressing the offensive line as quickly as possible so that they can have a little flexibility when it comes to draft time and

free agency when it comes. I think it's smart. Yeah. All right. What other, I saw John, John Watson restructure his deal again. That was actually the headline on ESPN said John Watson restructure his deal again. That was actually the headline. Yeah. On ESPN said John Watson restructures deal again. Yeah. That again carries so much weight. Yeah. It's the worst contract in that maybe in the history of sports. Yeah. I think it's probably up there,

right? I would say so. And he restructured again. I think it just, it helps them spend more money right now. They're going to end up paying him the 230 million. All of it. Browns are going to have to pay that to him. Yeah. But yeah, Deshaun Watson, a good guy, team player, team player taking a little pay cut. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's exactly what's happening. Got converted to a bonus. What's on your mind, Hank? Payton Pritchard going off. Payton Pritchard going off. What was that? How many, how many score? He had 40, Derek White had 40, Seldick's players out, doesn't matter.

They got their whole team out against the Sixers. Didn't matter? It's tonight. Oh, it's tonight. But it didn't matter. Oh, yeah, by the way, and last night in sports, Brady Kachuck did score for us within two minutes. He did, yeah. I took my son to the game and I was like,

that guy scored for you. He's the best. And he was just like, what? He didn't care. Absolute beauty. The six years team also was also all out by the way well who's out and bead well that doesn't be is out that doesn't is out Paul George questionable will probably play but let's not act like be like oh yeah our whole teams out we're still gonna beat this Sixers whose

team is also still out but his team team's out. Your team has been. I don't know what he. Nice difference is when the Celtics are all out, they're still all in. What? Yeah. What he said made sense. Cooper flag. Cooper flag. How upset would you be if the Sixers got Cooper flag?

I would probably murder you. That's fair. No, you can't get Cooper flag because you said on this program that I'm out. I'm removing myself from Cooper flag consideration. I did see something very mean from front of the program. Andy, Andy Staples. Okay. Andy might not be front of the program anymore. He said, if I was Cooper flag and the wizards are the Hornets got the number one overall pick, I go back to college. Oh, and then I thought about it.

And he's not, he's not wrong, but it hurt for me to hear him say that. It's still an insult. It's still an insult. I, if I was Cooper flag, I would play for the Wizards myself if they got the first overall pick. Um, but in the NILA, you love ball. I do love ball. He can go back to Duke, make some decent money at Duke for pretty damn good. And then go back to the NBA draft when a team that isn't the hornets are the Wizards has the number one overall pick it was mean for him to put that out there Yeah, I knew I I know it's a possibility technically in the back of my head

But it's still mean for Andy but to put that out there on the national sports podcast also You can't really time when like bad teams will probably be the first pick for a long time. Yeah. That's why they're bad. Yeah. I mean, I guess you could time it where it's like there's crazy lottery ball luck and a Sixers Sixers Sixers. Yeah, pops up. And if the Clippers were they're not going to get it. But if the Clippers were to get the number one overall pick, I believe it would go to the Thunder who then could add that would be incredible flag to their roster. That would be a good one. Big market. Yeah, I don't think I think the Bulls are gonna make the playoffs They just can't everyone else just keeps losing along with them. They lose but everyone else loses. It's crazy

The this is where the 10th seed in the NBA The playing game is so stupid the Bulls are the 10th seed right now. They're 24 and 38 They're not a good basketball team It's it's it works a little in the West where you have, you know, some some decent teams in that plane Range but in the East it's like none of these teams are the Hawks are not good Yeah, just get get rid of it some breaking moves. Oh breaking moves moves. Christian Kirk to the Texans. Jaguars are sending Christian Kirk to the Texans. I feel like the Texans should just get every receiver this year.

Why not? Tanktel has had another surgery. So that feels like it's gonna take a while. I think he just had the ACL. He had the maybe PCL and MCL already done. Yeah, he had to have another Yeah. Yeah. So the mall Yeah, the second surgery just happened. And digs not coming back. Most likely. He's a free agent too. Right? Yeah. digs. Yeah. Yeah. They should just get every receivers get DK. Get Christian

Kirk and everybody also today. I feel like Christian Kirk, by the way, just real quick with him. He's he's an all time. You know his name. But like, if he's your number one receiver, if he's a like part of your big plan, you're in trouble I think the Jaguars move with him was to pay him like a number one receiver He hopes that he would perform like he'd be like, oh shit. I guess I am Yeah, usually that doesn't work but he's yeah if you're if you if you start if Christian Kirk is The first two names that you say for your receiving court doesn't feel like it's gonna go you're in trouble

Yeah, I think you might have been on a fancy team last year. Yeah We'll get to that also Trey Hendrickson has been granted permission to seek a trade by means So that might be their money money issues. So he he led the NFL in sacks last year, right? Yep Doesn't wear gloves. Yep is a badass. Yep. I feel like there'll be a lot of interest in Sam Hubbard also retired. He retired incredible career. Thank you for your service, Sam. Pretty damn cool to play for one team one Jersey guy from Cincinnati. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Trey Henderson. So there's some pass rushers out there. Yeah. Cleo Mac is out there. Miles Garrett, obviously. Bosa. There's some pass rushers out there. Damn. Do you guys want to talk a little college ball real quick? Joe Linari took two days off this week. That's nice Just an updater Hank. What do you think about that took two days off? Whatever whatever brings your piece man bracket ology. We need the bracket ology every single day the minute There is a update in the games. we need a new bracket. So this is the most recent one right now. He has last four, uh, last four in San Diego state, Indiana,

Boise state and Xavier. Xavier has been hot first four out Oklahoma, North Carolina, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma had a big win against Mizzou. And Villanova has been dumped to the next, not even next four out, just the next. The next. Next. Now they're out, out, out, out. Are they first four into the NIT? I don't care. It's, it's, it's in the long run. It's good. Oh, because Kyle Neptune is going to get fired? Great guy. Great guy. Great guy. In the long run, it's good. Oh because Colin Epstein is gonna get fired great guy great guy great guy

Colin Epstein is out. Are you first reporting it? Great guy great guy Yeah, he's got to go. He's got to go. I feel bad for Providence fans. They're there They're out on Kim English. That was quick. The interview never had a chance. No, no So I'm guessing Florida now one seed after that one. Florida is so right now is one seeds are Houston, Duke, Florida and Auburn. And then the two seeds Michigan State, Texas, Tech, Alabama and Tennessee, three seeds, St. John's, Wisconsin, Iowa State and Texas A&M. Three seed.

Yeah, no, we've been in that three, two, three range. I mean, if we, we have Penn State to finish this regular season. I, if we went to the big 10 championship game, there'd be a chance maybe to get back up to a two seed, we were two seed for a little bit there and then lost to Michigan state. But yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for March madness. 12 and all. Yeah. About that. Well, 12 and all as of the taping, we don't know what happens tonight. so it could be really sad even talking about it, but The still still staying on the sidelines. I'm still staying on the sidelines

I'm the bigger picture and this is where I said earlier. Like I don't this is gonna Sound mean I'm not sure. Oh, I'm sure this will sound mean you're only doing one game a night I don't I don't want to be an asshole and just you know well. Well. No I know Seven I did well I did two on Tuesday Tonight is a very like light board There's only a couple power five conferences, and I'm not saying I'm going to do this But in the position that I'm in or in a position that a fader might be in Thinking bigger picture

It's not about going to lose one. It's like maybe starting next week and just everything everything Here's where it concerns, but I might not release everything That's fucked up. Why because I'm protecting myself against guys like you I might just release one pick I might bet everything but I might release one pick. What concerns me is the fact that big cat doesn't have Somebody that he's going against right? No, I am I'm still going against him, but he is not betting against you No, but again, we talked about this last show. I'm I'm still going against the idea of Hank Okay, Hank stands, but I feel like you're more power. I want you to have have an actual enemy We know but I have somebody I've been going against Hank this entire time This I want you to get to 15 and oh and then and then maybe fade you for your next 15

Just 30 it is crazy. I've never had a run like that's where the odds are at. It's not just one game I I have I've never had a run like this 12 in a row is insane. It's impressive. Very impressive It's it's my brain is just pulsating because it's been so smart recently again This might sound really stupid if the Iowa State Michigan or Iowa Michigan State overdue So have you done have you done any of your 12 and oh on? Iowa basketball hold on one second. I want to hear what I want to hear what you say, but that was crazy That's a non ball knower. I will I will basketball now this year They've had trouble hitting the three recently. I will basketball was like the best over ever for the last decade

The only do is Chuck their defense sucks. So they have hit a lot of overs cheer. Sorry pfd That was a non ball ball knower check. It's okay. He was just going with the vibes of the universe He was thinking of Iowa football which Iowa football I think was like 10 to 10, 10 and three to the over this year. Well, that's cause the over and adjusted down to like 29 points a game, but it over is over. It hit the over. And he drew this is a not hand out non ball nowhere over here. We got a casual. Yep. Hey, yep. It comes up. Bang, bang. You shouldn't even participate in March. So yeah, my thing is like, my thing is, have you made picks with an empty slate? Because I feel like you would not be giving out a pick necessarily tonight if you weren't

12-0 right now. I did like this over, I went to the lab this morning when I got to the office. I did like it regardless, but yeah, I mean, I can't, you can't be like, oh, no pick tonight. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, that would build the anticipation for the next pick so much. It would, but there would be a coward's way out to be like, oh, I can get,, I can't you can't be like, oh no pick tonight. Yeah, that's crazy I mean that would that would build the anticipation for the next pick so much it would but there'd be a cowards way out to Be like oh I can get cuz I could say no picks for rest of March. I never lost in March I come on you got it. You could do that. You gotta get it. You gotta step up to the plate undefeated in March I get to sat if I get to Saturday

There'll be multiple picks and that's probably where Hank will will jump against me. We're gonna say max Is Dave hopping on tonight Dave might be? Spoken to him like offline about I have he said I'm so mad at your run Because he hasn't been any of it and I was worried about him hopping on No, I think my I think the way my brain's working has been the more the merrier The more the merrier you it's for the people. I'm fighting for the people more the merrier. The more the merrier. You it's for the people. I'm fighting for the people more the merrier. So it just to recap, your your enemy right now

is the possibility that Hank wants you to lose. It's it's Henry Lockwood and everything he stands for. Okay. As a person, nothing personal, but as a person. Okay. Everything he stands for. All right. That's that's what gets me up in the morning

That's what gets me out of bed. I respect it is just Hank cuz like I mean you just heard him I will over Yeah, you know shit well Hank Hank lives to hate Send him go at Shane right off the bat was wild wild. He's just like whoever's in that chair. I'm attacking Yeah, poor memes got his wisdom teeth out at the ripe age of 30 Have you had yours out? Yeah when I was like 16 like everyone else. I still have not had mine out Do they hurt? Seven years ago in New York. I had one day where my mouth just like blew up I went to the dentist and then he gave me the x-rays like yeah, we got to get all four of these out

so I went home and He told me call him back. We're going to schedule an appointment. I simply did not make that call and it just went away. That's smart. So I think I'm good. I think your wisdom teeth out is a racket. Yeah. Did you get yours out? No. Did anyone, Max and Shane, you got yours? I got mine out in high school. Yeah. You got yours out, Shane? Yep. Who gets, do people still get their tonsils out yeah if they get infected oh I still got no you got yours out Shane Shana you're low-key sick boy I got strep throat three times in six weeks oh

every other week you're low-key sick boy I didn't know that about you no tonsil gang Wow I got all my original body parts. I'm in mint condition right now. I have no appendix either. What? Yeah that burst almost on death's doorstep Do you ever drink milk? I can but you know you don't you choose not to change you ever think like What you just described wisdom teeth appendix tonsils sick all the time like thank God you were born when you were born because if you're Born, you know 200 years ago. You would have been a dead baby. Yeah, I think Max is also overreacting

I've just been like it's the Chicago thing since I moved to Chicago I've been getting at least once a month you're allergic to month. I have to just be like Shane go home Like the doctors and stuff they don't know what's going on. How's how's max is a boss? Fantastic boss, okay, because we know memes is answer. Yeah If max was not in the room, what would your answer be max earmuffs? Max not listening. How's max is a boss Max is a fantastic boss. Okay Okay, why are you why do you have, are you holding

up a sign saying help me? I may as well be. All right. What else do we have? Anything else? Oh, JJ watt doesn't have to go back to the NFL. Yeah, they got scored on. Congrats. They gave up the clean sheet. So yeah. And they won the game. So it was a perfect ending for him where he got it. It was a great storyline, very fun. And then doesn't have to go back to the NFL. His bangles fans would have been pumped. It would have taken the sting off the Trey Hendrickson thing a little bit. He did. It was like, maybe I'll get JJ. He did tell me that he was like, cause I reached out to him. I was like, dude, this is not the same as the pinky bet, but similar where it's like this can't happen. And I was like, are you actually getting ready for this?

And he said he had changed his diet and workout routine slightly because it was getting farther and farther down the line. That was like step one on the checklist. Yeah. Something that he'll have to, in the future I would have just, I would have just said, fuck it and kept doing my thing until it was time to actually go to training camp and then just not make it to then just sucked. Yeah, but he's he's built different I was wondering this about JJ Watt because he's a guy that retired and then all of a sudden He you know, he got to enjoy himself a little bit enjoy the fruits of his labor travel the world a little bit

He started drinking some beer after he retired Do you think that a guy as as big as JJ is he probably didn't drink much while he was in the league? Do you think he had you think he had a higher low tolerance when he quit Wisconsin Wisconsin? Yeah Yeah, and the boys got a he JJ walk and drink. Yeah, I'm gonna guess he can drink I think now he can I just don't know it like right after you retire you're built like a tank But Wisconsin, but do you have like two beers and then you're like, oh fuck. Yeah, I think it's I think that just Wisconsin Carries through for him. Yeah there where it's just like he could just still drink like a tank be like oh First time I'm trying this stuff. Mm-hmm. I could drink a hundred of them. Yeah, Oh, Wisconsin

All right anything else before we get to our awesome interviews. I'm trying to think is there any other news that we missed There's some drama. Oh Tell us the drama It's Eagles drama. Oh, tell us the drama. It's Eagles drama. Oh, national sports podcast. Yep. I cannot say it. No, I would like to hear it. It's there's three players that are involved. Two of them. If I gave you three guesses, I think you could get to AJ Brown. That's one. Okay. C D deuce. That's the other. other okay, okay? Well then and then there's a third which is Darius Lai, okay, Darius Lai went on a podcast. He got cut. He got he got cut. They're trying to maybe him

Rework his contract and him come back eventually But right as of right now he is cut He went on a podcast and they asked who's going to be the leader in the locker room in the defensive back room, after, like since he's out. And he was like, I think Reid Blankenship is going to be the leader in that room or they're going to bring in an old guy to replace me as leadership. C.D. took offense to that. Went on a tweet spree where it was very, it didn't make a ton of sense. Okay. Oh, did you pull it up? Yeah

Yeah, basically went on a tweets tweets free Sub-tweeting doing gifts everything that see but CD needs a little chip on his shoulder to play to play well Yeah, after winning a Super Bowl, it's hard to get that chip on his shoulder to play to play well. Yeah. And after winning a Super Bowl it's hard to get that chip on his shoulder. This is one to get a chip on his shoulder. And then the A.J. Brown aspect that same podcast Devontae Smith somebody asked or that same podcast somebody asked if he thought if Darrius Slay thought that prime Devontae Smith or prime OBJ was a better receiver and Darrius Slay said OBJ and like an Eagles fan was like damn Darius Lay throwing shade at Smitty and then AJ Brown got mad at that Eagles fan Mm-hmm saying saying Odell Beckham was better in his prime. Correct. Mm-hmm in his his prime was that catch

You can it's very rare that you can pinpoint a man's actual prime Mm-hmm. It was in that moment and. And it was maybe the best prime of all time. Yeah. His, Odell Beckham's first, I want to say, five years in the league were insane. And yeah, you're right. That was like the moment that was like, oh shit. Yeah. If you make a play like that, it's awesome.

But also, if it were me, it would kind of suck because I'd be like, fuck, I'm never going to get better than that Yeah, that's like say Quan Barkley is he gonna do better than that backwards hurdle? Probably not was that is he passed his prime? I Don't know he had a couple pretty pretty sick plays after that this year. He'd go to back up Yeah, so he got injured in his fourth year his first three years in the league 1300 yards 12 touchdowns 1400 yards 13 touchdowns 1300 yards 60 Or 10 touchdowns pretty damn good. Mm-hmm and over 90 catches in all three of those years

But yeah prime Modell was I I just said I just like envision Odell just taking a slant to the house Yeah, I'm Odell. Yep, like a five yard slant and just everyone just is in the dust Yeah, I model. Yep, like a five yard slant and just everyone just is in the dust Okay, that was good national sports podcast anything else any anything in the NBA max. What do you think they're gonna do? Good question. What do you mean? Who's gonna be the leader in that locker room? I? Think Dom yeah, big don't know in the defensive backroom. That's what the question was right? I think there could be co-leaders. I don't think there needs to be one certain guy Which I think you need to have a leader No, but there but people lead in different ways. I think that like

Cd could be could is like going to be a vocal leader he's always gonna have someone's back in the locker in the enough in a scrum and I Don't know I think Reid Blankenship will also be a leader. Oh okay co-leaders. Really well said. Yeah I was trying to think of like Elon and Vivek. They were co-leaders and they got along real well. Eli and who? Elon. Elon and Vivek. Who's Vivek? Yeah exactly. Ramaswamy. Exactly. Yeah no there could be co-leaders. He's a dude who you probably haven't seen him for a while because he basically did a

tweet that was like, American culture sucks. And then I was like, boo this guy. And that was it. We all said boo. We all were like, boo, dude. You got booed out of politics. Fuck you, dude. Get out of here. Hell yeah. Yeah. America rocks. All right. Let's get to our interviews. We have Jerry O'Connell with a very special guest joining in with him to maybe ask a few questions.

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Here he is. Jerry O'Connell. Okay we now welcome on our very very very good friend our fantasy football owner and Hollywood A-lister it's Jerry O'Connell we figured this would be a perfect time to have you on to do a little Oscars preview because our listeners love movies and they want to know what's going to happen at the Oscars. So let's, let's dive into it. You have a, who's going to win best picture?

Why'd you call this meeting? Why are you calling me? Like, what do you want? What do you want to talk about? You want to get the Oscars? We saw you on TV and you look great, Jerry. I don't know who are you wearing? Yeah. Thank you. I was wearing I Was wearing John Barbados, um, I Mean I don't judge people physically you guys know that about me, but uh, It'd be more was very attractive. Mm-hmm Well, you know who was very attractive, um, I don't judge people physically, but if I did like, this is who I would say, uh, was attractive. I thought Nikki Glaser, who I

saw was a beautiful woman. Oh yeah. Yes. Yes. Very beautiful. Where, where do they put you at the Oscars? Where do you sit? So I wasn't, um, it wasn't inside the building. I was outside the building. Um, what was, um, I was working the red carpet for live with Kelly and Mark. It's a syndicated morning talk show, not sports related. And um, like I just basically had to sit on the red carpet and be like, Mr. Lithgow, Mr. Lithgow, would you like to come and talk to me? It's for live with Kelly and Mark. Mr. Lithgow, Mindy Kaling, Mindy Kaling. Will you come and say hi to us?

Um, and then they edit all the interviews together and they played it, um, the next day on live with, uh, Kelly and Mark, which is a syndicated talk show, not sports related. Right. But you did look good, Jerry, for the record. You look good at the Oscars. We, what can we do to get you in the building though? Yeah. You should be in that building.

Were you, were you not, were you allowed, like if you wanted to go in, were you allowed to go in, you just decided not to go in? No. Um, I think you have to be nominated for something fellas. I mean, I'm not really, I'm not really working a lot right now. Kangaroo Jack, which I was in is not going to get me into the Academy Awards. You know, it should stand by me should. Yeah.

Yeah. But that was, that was decades ago. You know? Yeah. I mean, right now I'm pretty much known as, as your fantasy manager, which, um, I don't know, it feels like I'm not like, it feels like that is even like slipping through my fingers. Like, what are you talking about? I may not even have that anymore. No, you, you are, you are going to be running our team.

I listened to your interview with Shepty and I heard you guys say, um, you know, Hey, maybe you can oversee Jerry when he's doing this. And I don't, um, I don't feel comfortable with that because I know it's going to evolve into me talking to Dylan Schefter, his daughter and asking her, you know, uh, who are we starting today? Dylan, uh, Ray Ray McLeod or, or, or Pat Breyer mood, you know, or you're going to stick me with like, uh, like the the Hasselbrack brothers, you know Tim and The other one, you know Hey Hasselbacks, come on. We got to set our lineup. So we start a doons day or take down need an answer need an answer

Yeah, yeah, I know You know everyone is gonna come on. No, no, I know everyone cuz you called this meeting So now I'm gonna talk everyone who comes on you going to be like, Hey, what's up? Uh, uh, Wendy Nicks. Should we go with this Lee or Thielen? What are you feeling? You know, I, and I don't, um, I'm not going to do it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm just not going to do it. We barely even know Schafter. Hey, Joy Taylor, should we go with King Cain or, or Zacchaeus? What, but, but Jerry. Sorry, what were you saying?

We have Schefter on once a year. You barely know the man. We have him on at the Combine once a year. Yeah, there was a conversation had, but if you remember, Shepty seemed lukewarm on the idea. Seemed like he didn't really understand what he was getting into. So it's like, hey, all right, this probably won't work out. If you fucking stick me, it seems, hold on a second. If you stick me

with Darren Ravel, I swear to you, I would never, no, I will never, no, I would never ever, ever, ever. I could see you guys doing that as like a bit, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a bit, you know, no, no Tony reality Jerry. Oh gotta set our lineups Fans or Hawkinson Tony need an answer. Oh, listen, Jerry Adam is a great guest on the show I don't even think that he's interested in the position. I don't think that you'll hear from Adam Schefter I don't think that he's a threat to your job I think that you actually showed us a lot about how how seriously you were taking it

Yeah Now if Adam Shepard did decide that he wanted to be part of it We'd have to have that conversation talk to him or someone else But it seems another inside does not give a shit about this and he's sick of doing fantasy football So I don't think you have anything to worry about we were mostly just doing that to scare you I think Adam is not a threat. I don't think you'll hear from him. Okay. Hey chicken fry. It's it's Jerry Oh Take a swing on no, a great day. All right. Wait. So Jerry didn't answer chicken

fry. I do. I do have questions about the Oscars. I feel like you dismissed our interest in the Oscars. Uh, who is the best? Who's the best interview you had? Um, I mean, they're all, uh, it's like pretty mainstream media stuff. Just like, Hey, are you nervous? Um, you know, nothing really spectacular. Nothing fire like you guys. I do have to say, or you guys are talking to Schafter and he started talking about the death list. Yeah, that was, so you like them. That was laugh out loud, buddy. So yeah. So you like them, but I just, by the way, what are the legalities of him giving me inside information?

I don't I don't think there are any. I think that's what was so attractive about Adam Schefter in this position is because he's got the inside info. I don't think that there's any rules that govern insider trading. Yeah, I think I think the biggest issue that we have right now in this relationship is that you are taking our want to make a better organization as a personal slight when really we're just trying to get better. Wait, what's the issue?

Max just said Jerry's internet may be a problem. Uh oh. Are we not recording it? I mean we're recording it. The Riverside. I've never seen it. It says zero. Zero out of zero uploaded, Jerry. Zero, zero. Can you go to somewhere where there's wifi? Jerry, is this the kind of internet that you deal with on a regular basis when you're on the clock? This is not good. This is not good for you. Wait, let me just try something here. How about that wifi? Let me just try something here. How about that wifi?

Let me just try something. Jerry is doing the draft, God forbid. And he runs with this situation. Oh, Jerry, is it an Android thing? Green bubble. Is that better, fellas? Seems like it might be, I don't know. Max, is that better?

So what do you want? No, you just put this camera. You just put this camera? What do you want? Jerry O. Fantasyman is his name. Oh, that's a nice what do you want? What do you Jerry Oh fantasy man is a nice name they have there maybe stop and just I just Stop yeah, we're gonna stop recording real quick for a second Quick break from Jerry O'Connell talk to you about our friends at Chevy Chevy is packed more capability in the Silverado trail boss So you can pack more fun into your weekend. Have yourself a fri-ay, sat-er-ay, and sun-yay with the truck that says no to nothing. Tailgates, spontaneous camping trips, DIY projects, bring it on.

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Okay noted Yep, what's up? Hey Cordell Patterson, or most are tipped. What are you feeling? All right. So we could, so you're saying that we can contact Tiffany Gomez and put her in charge of you? No, actually that was a joke. Don't do it. I'm like attempting to stay married. I don't want to have a relationship with Tiffany Gomez. I'm a fan of hers. I, I am a fan of hers from afar. Hey guys, I'm not even joking. Like really like trouble. And like with marriages, like no Tiffany Gomez. Okay. All right. Fun to be on Twitter, but let's keep it at that. Okay. But you're the one who brought it up. You

know, guys, I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, you know, I paid for one third of that very expensive fantasy Yeah, and I don't know if you recall but my wife called into the show before the season we were going to redo our driveway, yep We lost and to pay the one-third I pay the one third. Um, it's been pug, a picture of my driveway. What it looked like. What I draw.

I think about fantasy every time I drive over this in my drive. It's not a joke. That because that's good. That makes you hungry. Yeah. Yeah, you're always going over it. And every time it like hits my car and it bucks with my suspension, I think I've got to do better. I've got to

do better. Yeah. And all again, I know we kind of cut out there for a second, but all we're trying to do is get us better as an organization, as a team. You're taking it as a personal slight when in reality this is all if we if we're popping champagne week 17 next year and uh ian raport or chef t or tiffany gomas is uh in the middle management role will the champagne taste any like like less sweet i don't think so yeah it will i just don't feel like having to talk to teddy Bruce key every Sunday morning and asking him to set the lineups because you guys took access away for me to set lineups I just Just don't do it to me guys. Just you know what? I actually looked up looked up some stuff

Okay, I'm gonna give you some stats here. Okay. All right. Go ahead. 2001 bears. Okay. Okay. Two, 2001 bears, 2000 bears only had five wins. 2001 bears at 13 wins. Duck with coach the wrong coach. Yeah. RIP just passed away. Rest in peace. Yes. Um, prayers for tomorrow. Wow. Or lacker member them or lacker, all them. That was a good team, but they stuck with their organization and they turned it

around 2004 chargers. I know because I had seasoned tickets, uh, coach Schottenheimer, 2003, three wins, 2004, 12 wins wins won the AFC West. They stuck with the system. Who else had big turnarounds? 2019 Packers, uh, three win season, 2018, 13 win season, 2019. They fired Mike McCarthy. Oh, but I think they turned it around seeing that. So that

was the floors first season. All right. We'll forget about that. Forget about the 2019 Packers. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. 2008 Ravens, 2007. They only have five wins 2008. Oh fuck. Brian Billy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 2008 is when, okay. 2010. Okay. Niners 2010, six wins, 2011, 13 wins. Same coach. Was that hardball? Was that when they brought hardball? I think hardball was the, was, was started coaching there in 2011. So I think that one place I think that one place Okay, just forget about 2004 Chargers Had a great turnaround, you know Guys just cut that part out that I said about the um, we'll try Niners and all that stuff. Okay, okay

Um, yeah, we'll cut that part out for sure the for the package Jerry Jerry The difference is like I when was the last time you won a championship? Mm-hmm. Good question. Um It was older. It was a little while ago. I actually it was a league that I forgot about I didn't even set the lineups Um, it just um, it was like it it auto did it for me And they they let me know that I won. I forgot that I was in the league and so every day you drive over the pothole and it reminds you that you have not won a championship in What over ten years? Mm-hmm. Yeah about that Jerry who you going to lunch with today? I'm going out with my buddy Bolton done. How did you know that?

You told I guess I told you, he told me you have a lunch at one o'clock. I was just curious. Really funny actor Colton Dunn. Okay, look him up. Nice guy. He's actually from the Wisconsin area. He's a he's a Packers fan. Sorry, I couldn't have said that. I'm trying to know Colton Dunn. Your fantasy on him up. I'm looking him up. Jerry, when you were on the red carpet were there any

directors or Hollywood bigwigs they were like, oh shit We got to get Jerry like do you think maybe we're gonna get a big cuz you you should be you should win an Oscar Um, I met Ben Stiller. I was I was talking to him. Oh, could you get in severance? I got to tell you I'm mostly known. I'm mostly known for your show these days and not a lot of awls uh in the academy not a single person was like hey good job well not good job because you didn't win a championship but like you did you i saw you tried guys are being so rude you guys are being rude you know i can only take so much guys okay it's fair it's fair it

can only take so much jerry it's fair We're not we don't relish putting you down We don't because you care very deeply about the fantasy team Which is why it was a little bit puzzling that you were so averse to having anybody else help like big cat and I we Love this fantasy team. We live it we breathe it we sleep it ever since the start of the show It was our baby and we cared so much about it that we wanted to bring somebody else you in to help us to win a championship. And it's a little disheartening that you don't have that same. It feels like it's more about Jerry and less about the team. Throw the picture of my pothole, please. Okay. Okay. We're showing the pothole.

We're showing the pothole. Listen, Jerry, I, I just, I wanted to have you on today because I want to see that. And by the way, it rained hard this it rained hard this week and it just keeps growing. And every time I drive over that pothole, I think about us and our league. You guys are being super rude. So, Jerry, we have a guest. Yeah. And he had just a couple of questions for you. No big deal. Quick questions. Just quick questions. Can you see him?

Do you see Shafi? Jerry? Yeah. Hi Shafi. How are you? I'm a huge fan. It is my honor. Listen, I know these guys, they were very kind to invite me to oversee a team. And before I commit to a venture, Jerry, I just got to have some basic questions answered if that's okay with you. Totally fair. Totally fair. Right. Sure. Yeah. So let's start out, Jerry.

Communication is extremely important with fancy football. Texting, FaceTiming, all that. Do you use Android or iPhone, Jerry? Look, look. The messaging apps between the two, they now have one messaging app. So there's no more green bubbles and stuff. It's one messaging app. So it doesn't matter which kind of phone you use because it's all the same messaging

app and also I prefer messaging apps that are a little more encrypted like Signal where everything disappears because if we are going to be working together, you're going to be getting some highly offensive shit coming into your inbox. I just want you to know that. So you should know, you should know Shepty, if you have a Disney owned phone, the mouse is going to see some pretty raunchy shit and not just like regular shit. I'm talking hentai. We're gonna get deep Shepty. It's gonna get deep. So this is something that you have to think about if you and I are going to be partners. Okay.

I've gotten some I've gotten some crazy texts from some coaches with some rather profane language. So I'm used to this. But I still have saved some of those texts. I've saved some of those texts. All right, Jerry, I'm interested in the... We're familiar with email leaks. I'm talking some really dark web stuff. I'm not talking stuff that's offensive. Shepty, listen to me. No, no. This needs to be said, PFT, you big guy. This needs to be said, okay? And I'm sorry I'm getting angry, but Seach Max won the Super Bowl. He doesn't get angry anymore, so let me do it for you.

You need to understand, it isn't offensive stuff that's coming into your inbox. It's real, dark web shit that's gonna give you nightmares, Shepty. Nightmares. So get ready. That's okay. You wanna talk about whether we should start, whether Gray or not, whether he's going to hit a home run. Let him ask the questions, Jerry. He's got a job to do here.

Let him ask the questions. Jerry, we got Trey Hendrickson requesting trades. We got NFL Live stuff. I got to get going here and I got to get through this process. So let me ask you a few more things if you don't mind. I'm interested in the process that you use to determine graph rankings. Can you walk me in a very simple way through your process there? Yes.

If I were to remain in charge of the draft, our part of my take fantasy draft, we're gonna go heavy on wide receivers in the beginning, and we're not gonna pick up running backs until maybe the fourth, fifth and sixth rounds. Okay. Good answer. Okay.

Approximately how much football would you say you watch in a given weekend? Good question. Good question. Good question. I'm currently married and football is not my job. It used to just be like a quarter, maybe a quarter and a half a week, but since my kids got their licenses, I'm getting close to three quarters a weekend. That includes Thursday and Monday night football recorders

I am ashamed of that. I am ashamed of that Of the dark web shit that I'm gonna say That I only get three quarters of football So that may explain why big cat and pft have not won a championship that may explain right? We believe, we believe a stable home life. We came in third! Hold on. We believe a stable home life is important to our team's success. Tell me about the level of support that you have from your family in managing a team. Is everyone in

your house all bought in, Jerry? No, they don't even know, they can't stand PFT and Big Cat. They think they're strange people. I mean, you know, like my wife, I tried, I was talking about Max and she said, let me see a picture of this guy and don't even get me started on the kind of reaction that that had. They're no they don't like me watching football they don't like the sound of it if I do watch it it usually has to be on mute. Okay okay hold on I got two more because I gotta get on a TV show here but follow up on family Jerry follow up

family is very important to me and at times I have my son and my daughter, who's a big fan of yours, help with my workflow. Would you have any issues if they were in contact with you giving you direction? No, I love your kids. I'm very happy. Dylan, correct? That's your daughter's name. She's gonna be very happy that you know her name. Very good, Jerry. Yeah. Yes. I'm very excited to work with them. I think very happy. Dylan, correct? That's your daughter's name? She's very happy that you know her name. Very good. Yeah. Yes. I'm very excited to work with them. I think they're great. If you have any advice, I have two 16 year olds who are currently vaping nonstop. Let's just hope it's just nicotine. If you have any advice

for that, let me know. You know, my Dylan 16 and and and who knows what's going on we just we we hope and pray for the best right that's all we can do Jerry's. Yeah. Aaron's 16 year olds. All right my last question for you Jerry have you ever while employed as PMT team manager spoken to a competing sports program about fantasy football strategies Good question great question. Okay. Um now Mr. Schefter you understand like you get a lot. I'm sure you're a friendly guy who gives your phone number out I know you have two phones

You know, I have a good friend named Akbar Bajibiamila who played for the Raiders who is now currently on good day football good morning football And he asked me to come on I do have to say coming on to pardon my take has really increased my visibility And a lot of people call me and ask me about coming on their podcasts and such and it's Only because I do pardon my take um such and it's only because I do part of my take. Um, so I was on good morning football once, but I did let, I did let a big cat and PFT know I was going on it.

He's a friend and I didn't, I didn't want to say no. I did another friend, a podcast for my friend, um, Adam Pally, but it was not sports related. It's about health. And I did ask PMT and big cat and they said it was okay. And then threatened me with like losing my ability to met, to set the lineups in our fantasy league. Mm hmm. Well, you know, Jerry, listen, these are just things that I wanted to

just get out there in the open. I wanted you to think about them. I wanted to hear the answers myself. And now that I have them and I appreciate your time Today we could sit back think about things of value and it's sort of like making a draft pick You don't just make the traffic you put a lot of time thought and energy into it And then you make the decision about who you're gonna pick. Yeah, same thing here. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, let me get Shifty Let me get let me get your number on that new phone. I got some bids that I really want to send you to straight SMS I could do whatever you want Shepty. Whatever you want. You want to come on this team it's going to be.

I appreciate how willing and flexible you are. Yeah. Alright thank you so much Shepty. Thank you. I know you guys appreciate it. Alright thanks Shepty. Appreciate it. Important conversation we need to be had.

Thank you. Alright Jerry I think that went well. I think that went well. That was. You guys. You guys ambushed me. You guys ambushed me. You guys ambushed me. You guys ambushed me. I think that went well. I think that went well. That was you guys, you guys ambushed me. You guys ambushed me. Oh, that was crazy.

We want to see how you responded to adversity. Jerry, what a great sport, man. What a good guy. So funny. He really is. I really look forward to his interviews. He, um, he, oh, I love the, uh, I love the coach. I love the coach Cohen interview as well I thought it was really interesting although Dude, did I want you guys to answer something to me? Did you know what he was talking about when he's talking about flapjack? Space side a tube to deep backs and all that stuff and he started going to the jar again No, I just nod and you're like, yeah, that makes you hear like hear like one word that you recognize and you're like, yeah, I understand the whole thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're just not along. That was exciting. That was really fun. Oh God. I can't wait.

Go ahead. All right. No, no, go ahead. No, you go. No, you go. I'm going to, I'm going to send him one vid and he's going to say I'm out. I can't do this. No exactly which one I'm gonna, I'm gonna send him one vid and he's gonna say, I'm out. I can't do this. No, exactly which one I'm going to send them.

Jerry, what we'd like to know, um, because we've talked to a lot of coaches recently, they've got a lot of acronyms. I want you to come up with an acronym that embodies kind of the spirit and the motto of what you're looking for in team. You don't have to do it right now, but we're looking for a change of direction. Maybe some fresh ideas. I'm going to do it right now. some fresh ideas so do it right now i'm gonna do it right now i know that coach cohen had fast fundamental attack uh speed situational masters

that was so funny when you guys were saying that's yeah yeah it's two words so it's really funny um yeah i have one uh my acronym is shit uh Success hits intelligence, thoughtfulness. We're going to be thoughtful in who we start. Okay. Okay. Shit. Shit. I think the S should stand for chef. I thought he was, I thought, I don't know about Jerry. I don't know about you, but like chef, he had some really good pointed questions. It feels like he does. He's, he's diligent. That's the type of guy we want in our organization. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost as if someone like bed fed those questions to him. This is like the Biden administration. No, no, no. I think you're

being a little bit paranoid. No, no, no. There's some good things to think about. So, all right. So Jerry, you did have a row back poem. So let's finish with that. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Big cat. I got it. Big cat. I got it. This is a row back poem. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, pull-ups, goodies, joggers, shorts, row back dot com promo code take. Go right now. Row back.com promo code take the right now robot.com promo code take use it by the way. It's a quarter zip. It's like right there. This is a poem for my fantasy owners who've been a little rude as of late big cat and PFT.

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Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. And now here is our very good friend, Sean McVeigh. Okay we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is our good friend, Super Bowl head coach, Super Bowl winning head coach, Sean McVeigh. Coach, first of all, thank you for joining us. Let's start though with, I saw a quote that you didn't go to the combine this year. I think you haven't gone to the combine for a couple of years because you trust. Yeah, you trust your scouts now

I believe that but is there also part of you that just didn't want to run into us two idiots and have to have like a Stupid conversation at prime 47 where we like judge your your beard because that would be fine That's totally fair if you didn't want to see us The insecurity that that conversation left me with was a very real thing, you know The insecurity that that conversation left me with was a very real thing. You know, thinning hair, beard, I'm getting PRP shots now thanks to you guys. But that, that is a small part big cat. I can't lie. So we ran you out of Indy, but I do, there's a real question in this, uh, in the scouting part, uh, as a head coach, how much does the actual combine and the metrics that you guys collect

from there matter when you're analyzing a player? Like does it, can it really be, Oh, this guy showed flashes that we didn't see on tape. Now we're going to consider him differently. It's a, you know, the, the workout part is a really small portion for me, at least I think it's led to some mis-evaluations. The tape is the biggest guide. What I do think the combine is beneficial for is the medical checks. You know, you get a lot of stuff in terms of the medical checks. And then the other thing is what we used to do when we would go is you spend those 15 minute increments where you're able to just get a feel for their football acumen. When you put their tape on, how are you coach? You know, You don't want to necessarily punish them

for not being exposed to maybe some of the things other guys are, but the meetings can be beneficial. But I do think that that's still, that 15 minute window is too short of a time to really get a feel for a human being. So the vetting over the course of their careers, the tape and the medical are the things that are the most important guiding principles for us.

Did you have any specific questions you used to ask guys in those 15 minutes to try to get a feel for who they are? I think the best thing, and a lot of this because of some of the shortcomings I've had is, hey, what's the biggest adversity you faced and how did you bounce back from it? And you don't want to punish guys for not having gone through it, but I'm such a big believer just based on the course of things that have occurred professionally for me or even personally that even though the most challenging moments, they felt like the worst thing when you're in them, you look

back on them and you're saying, I don't know where I would be without what those lessons and those tough times taught me. And if people have shown a consistent ability to be able to respond and use adversity to kind of catapult themselves forward and it doesn't break them. That means a whole hell of a lot to me. Do you judge a man by his handshake? Yeah, I think so. Right. I mean, there is a part of it that you can feel. I mean, there are a couple of these guys, they feel like you're going to break your hand. So it definitely

leaves an impression. I mean, if you give me that limp, you know, the handshake, I'm not a big fan of that. I mean, what are you guys saying? Yeah, I mean, definitely on the other hand, it you know, the handshake, I'm not a big fan of that. I mean, what are you guys saying? Yeah, I mean, definitely. On the other hand, it's kind of become like an arms race. Everyone, ever since people were like, oh yeah, Adrian Peterson, he'll break your hand off with a handshake. I feel like guys go into the handshake now thinking about really squeezing.

It's not like a natural squeeze. It's like, I'm going to try to impress him with my grip strength right now. Yeah. Is that what you guys do? Well, so I'm dealing with an issue for the last three months. I have a broken pinky and so every time I shake someone's hand, it's like, I'm just like, it's a 50 50 shot, whether they'll hit the right spot where I'm just like screaming in pain internally, but I also don't want to give a bad handshake. So I go in strong that, I mean, what would you grade me if I, if I, if we were in the combine, I was like, Hey, listen, man,

I would probably transition to a half DAP kind of bro hug. I do try to DAP a little bit more, but it's just like that way. Then it's still not impersonal. But I mean, I I've been in those situations where you get some of those handshakes and it sends a shockwave through your whole fucking body. Right. Yeah. And then I have that and I judge myself. Like if I give a bad handshake, I'm upset at myself. And it sticks with me for a little bit where I'm like, man, I fucked that up.

And that guy probably thinks I'm such a pussy. So what's the last time when you thought that yourself and then you felt the other guy thinking that same exact thing? Oh, yeah, you do the like look away because you know that you screwed it up. Yeah. Now you can't even make eye contact because he's thinking you're a pussy too. Yeah right exactly. I judge mostly based on the clamminess of the handshake. That too. Like how much moisture is is on the other end of it because that tells you that the palms don't lie. It's like you can squeeze as hard as you want but if you're sweating I know that you're a little bit nervous. If I was a prospect I would just go in for a hug and a kiss with the coach. Yeah, I'll just be like strong. Come here. Give me a smooch Let's see. Give me a quick kiss. Um, all right. Hey, that's certainly leaving it brushing. Yeah, it absolutely would. You wouldn't forget that guy.

So, uh, the big news, obviously last week, Matthew Stafford sticking with the Rams. Uh, how long was that conversation when he came, uh, to the facility and you're like, Hey, let's just do this because I think we all assume that was going to happen, but there was a little bit of time there where it was kind of up in the air and there's rumors going around, uh, ski trips, whatever. Uh, but how quickly were you able to just be like, Hey, we need you here. We want you here. You still got football left. That was consistent throughout, you know, the, the Yellowstone. I'm kind of upset. I wasn't there with, you know, for the, uh, for the ski trip.

That was a free, you know, that's a who's who over there. I would say this, that was always the end goal in mind trying to figure out, Hey, how do we get this guy back? What I do think is good. And honestly, and I've kind of talked about it. The biggest thing to me was that was always what we wanted. Matthew knew that I'm so glad that it ended up where it did. But the most important thing is, is when you're making these commitments and he's such a central part of where we want to go. And he's got such a positive influence on his teammates, him feeling good about it and Kelly feeling good about it. And really collectively us all understanding, Hey,

here's where we were at. Let's have some good conversations. And there's never been anybody that I really loved and cared about that you couldn't have like real conversations with. And I think we understood that we might not always see eye to eye on some different things, but I think we were closer as a result of going through it, even though there was some stuff where you're out there and it became so public where you're at the gym and shoot, it's the music's going, but you have one of these stations on and that's all they're talking about. And you're thinking they're showing these highlights and stuff. And I'm thinking, I would be a real dumb ass if we let this guy go. So, um, but it was, it was good. It was a couple hours, but it was, it was more of a formality and

making sure that everybody felt good about the direction we're going. And I will say it was a great meeting. And I felt that it was some uncomfortable weeks, but where it's at, I think we're better as a result of it. I know I at least feel that way. And from my understanding, I think Matthew and his family does as well. So you mentioned Kelly, do you have anyone in the analytics department that listens to her podcast to try to be like, all right, here's where we can, here's where the negotiation might go.

Like she's kind of tipping her hand a little bit. Do you have anyone who's studying that? I haven't had anybody study that. Okay. We got a guy. Yeah. We got a guy that does it. Jerry O'Connell, he's got all the information on that. Yes, yes. But you're a smart guy.

If you're going to be trying to convince Matt Stafford to play for your team, you take him someplace warm. You take him to Cabo. You don't take him up in the mountains on a ski trip. Yeah. Was that an ain't no fun when the rabbits got the gun moment where it's like, Oh shit, I remember this, you know, vacation bump into someone. There was some nervous vibes. I thought, Oh, this feels familiar. But the difference was we didn't give him permission to actually be traded. We gave him permission for his agent to talk to some other teams. That was different than the parameters around Detroit. And so I'm damn glad that we're talking about him being a Ram. Otherwise it would be, it would be a real different feeling that I would have right now. I don't think I'd have the courage to come on and talk to you guys.

It might be, it would be bad. Well, it'd be, it'd be interesting because you'd probably be having Aaron Rogers come in and then we'd have a whole bunch of things to talk about in that case. Yeah. Uh, so there's another guy, Cooper cup, great player. Uh, he, he might be playing in a different place next year, but I think you guys are, it's kind of the same situation, right? Where it's like, if he doesn't find some place, if you guys don't find a good deal or whatever, there's a chance he could be a Ram next year, but I think you guys are, it's kind of the same situation, right? Where it's like, if he doesn't find some place, if you guys don't find a good deal

or whatever, there's a chance he could be a Ram next year too. Is that fair to say? I would say probably not. You know, this is a little bit different. You know, the, the, this guy has been such a powerful influence impact player, but also person and his rookie year coincides with my first year as a head coach, I would say this in the eight years going into year nine, there hasn't been a more challenging circumstance that you have to navigate relative to knowing

that the most likely outcome is we're part and ways with him. He's a legacy Ram. He's done so many incredible things. I mean, you look at how instrumental he's been in all things that are right about the Rams, he's at the center of that. And that hasn't been fun, but he's been a real one throughout it. And, uh, sometimes these tough conversations are real things, but su forever grateful for what he's done over these eight years. And he's got good football left in him

for sure. Yeah. So the human element of that obviously sucks. It's, it's part of the job. Uh, do you find yourself though? Like, I think that if I were in your position, I would just send a stray text to Cooper Cup and just be like, you know, I love you bro. Like shit like that, where you get in your feelings a little bit. Do you ever find yourself doing that? Yeah. And I'll say this though, like in all seriousness, the thing that I, when I look back on, all right, let's make sure you learn from your mistakes. Like early on you're 30 years old as a head coach. You're naturally thrust into a role where you have to make hard decisions that you can't accommodate everybody.

But I was so worried in a lot of those instances of still trying to be liked and respected. I think you get better at being able to with an empathy, but an honesty and a direct, you know, communication in regards to, hey, this sucks with careful consideration. direct, you know, communication in regards to, Hey, this sucks with careful consideration. I've been wrong before I could be wrong again, but this is what we think is best for the collective even though it might not suit an individual. But yeah, you're in your feelings. I love this guy. And I mean, what's crazy is, is this guy's changed my life for the better. I, I'm a better coach. I've gotten opportunities.

There's been financial things that have come my way and he's been an instrumental part of all those blessings that this game has brought and he's been, you know, one of the main guys that's been a positive influence. So there's a lot of emotions that goes into that. But I do think that the friendship, the relationship we formed over time, while it might be where I'd be pissed off if I was him to hopefully as time goes, there's at least an appreciation that, hey, not easy, but kind of we've had good communication and there'll be a lot of appreciation and gratitude when you look back on the time spent together. You mentioned something there that's interesting because I just knowing you for, I think the first time we had you on was like six or seven years ago. And, and, and, and knowing you, I can feel it that you

have gotten a lot more comfortable in the role where maybe when you first started, it was like, I have to do what the image of a coach is. I can't really be myself. And it's, it feels like you're, you're a lot more comfortable being yourself. Was there a moment, was it winning the Superbowl or was it before that where you're like, Hey, look, I'm really good at this. I don't have to be someone else's vision of a coach. I'm just going to be Sean McVeigh. Yeah. And you know, I don't know if it's as much that big cat as much as it's just, you know, growing up as a man, you know, you're, you're 30 years old when you get hired and you're really figuring out, okay, through good things and then through failures, like, what are you really about?

How are you foundationally built? Like what's the shit that really matters in terms of how you positively impact people, but how you handle hard times, how you handle hard conversations with an empathy and an appreciation, how you enjoy it. You know, I think sometimes not taking yourself so seriously too. I think it was part of, you know, just coming into that dynamic, but I think a lot of the failures or mistakes I've made through eight years where people give you grace, but I think a lot of the failures or mistakes I've made through eight years where people give you grace, but you're saying, all right, if you really mean like you want to take accountability, it's okay. People make mistakes, but learn from it.

Like really apply those learning lessons with, you know, all the things, whether it's football related, most importantly, relational, you know, how you are as a father, as a husband, all those things. And I do think I'll say this too and you know This like having a kid has made Oh, yeah, and it has just brought such a purpose and a perspective into my life that I just didn't have before I realized How freaking selfish I was you know before this ended up happening. It's been the biggest blessing ever Yeah, having kids I I try to tell me it's it's obviously very difficult

but there is a superpower that comes with it where things that Felt important before just roll off your back because you're like this is not important And it's the way I best I described is you live the first however many years of your life where you're the main Character in your movie and then a kid shows up and you're like no you're the main character in my movie now Like you're the main character in my movie now. Like you're the main character that, that everything revolves around. So it totally changes it. It's so true though. And it's funny when you say that too, like you think about probably the enjoyment

you guys have working with each other and the rest of your group and what it's become when it's about, I don't want to let people down. Like it's the same thing in coaching. I can think about like when it's been the most pure, like when we were in the midst of going and trying to win a Super Bowl in 21, where we get into the playoffs, I genuinely felt in the midst of that, I wanted it more for Whitworth,

Aaron Donald, Stafford, Cupp, Jalen Ramsey, O'Dell, our coaches, Von Miller, and that is where you're much more fulfilled. It almost takes the pressure off where it's like, it's not about your selfish ambitions. I want to do it because I don't want to let that other guy down. And it's wild how it's almost like a weight is alleviated. Whereas when you feel like, man, this shit's more about you than you'd ever like to know anybody to, you know, like you, you don't say it out loud and you know how to say the right things, but you know what you're feeling.

That's the best thing I can put about like my son and my wife. And, and when you apply those things in all parts of your life, man, there's where real fulfillment it's not perfect, but it's a much better way to live to me. Yeah. Do you ever think to yourself like 30 years old, what were they thinking hiring a 30 year old to be a head coach? Like being this old now and thinking about how young you were back then when I was 30, I was a completely different human being. Yeah.

Yes. I tell that to Stan Cronkite all the time. I said, what the hell were you thinking hiring me as a 30 year old? And you know what you realize is like, while you might be ready to do some of the things from a leadership perspective, just coaching wise, there still is an emotional toll that that takes on you because of the internal pressure you put on yourself. And if you really were to say though, like, what's the best thing in these eight emotional toll that that takes on you because of the internal pressure you put on yourself.

And if you really were to say though, like, what's the best thing in these eight years that's happened to me, it was going five and 12 and 2022. Like it really was because of what that force, like I had to get my ass broken down and really exposed on a public level where you're really saying like, all right, some of these insecurities you have now you can't hide from them and you're either going to handle it the way that you would want to advise your son or you're going to run away from it and you can conveniently hide behind other opportunities. And so there is no doubt that I say that to Mr. Cronkey all the time, but I'm sure damn glad that he made the decision to do that.

Yeah. Yeah. Was there a point this year where you did send that text to Aaron Donald and you're like, Hey, how are you feeling? Ha ha. He was at my house for a week after we had played Minnesota earlier on in the season. It was a Thursday night game. So we had a birthday for my son, Jordan. It was his first birthday. And we were officially those parents that, you know, the one year old, like he really knows it was really us throwing a party for ourselves, acting like, you know, it's for our one year old. But I think I caught a couple vodka sodas too many, and I definitely was trying to convince him of that. And he's like, hey, bro, we've already been down this road.

I mean, you know, that's not happening. We got some momentum going right now. What do you think? Yeah, yeah, just hop in. If I were you, I would do that at least once a week. Yeah. Just be like, just emphasize your last minute So good. Yes, still go. I mean it is what a stud that guy was

Yeah, you need to reverse it you just be like people are saying you're getting fat Is that true? Like I heard people saying that like you don't have it anymore. You're not tough Think he would know that's just so not true. They wouldn't even respond. I'd be like spitballs on a battleship to him true that he wouldn't even respond. I'd be like spitballs on a battleship to him. I don't know if you saw this quote. I'm sure you did, but Kevin Dotson said that Sean McVeigh thinks in 4d or something. So the exact quote is, I don't think people can think like him. I think he thinks in 4d or something. He's just thinking in every direction.

Do you see in 4d? I do not, but I did not hear that quote. That's a knowing my man K dot He's a stud. I'll take that all day and That is my guy. Did you see what he did against the Niners on the screen where he took two out? No, no So it was a good day. It was a good one viral man We threw like a little inside perimeter or an inside tunnel screened in a Cua and he ended up a little inside perimeter or an inside tunnel screened in a Kua and he ended up pancake and two guys on the place. You check that out. Was that was doing his thing was the Niners on Thursday night when we had the shootout win. Yeah. Six. Yeah. So that game, we obviously watched the whole game. When you get into a game like that, is there a point in the

game? You're like, God damn it. This game sucks. Cause it, like, and you just try to find a way to win it because it was, it felt like it, you saw it was like punt, punt, punt. You're like, Oh, it's going to be one of those games where no one's going to be able to move the ball and you just got to figure out a way to survive. The answer is it was challenging, but Hey, you saying punt, did you see Northern Colorado with the fake punt? Yes. I told you it'd work. I told you that in the team meeting, the fucking guys loved it. I said, I'll be damn. That was on fourth down, not third down. I think we splice my guy, Carter Crutchfield. He spliced that in with us talking about it. And then I thought of, I mean, the guys loved it. I was so pumped when I saw it.

And I was like, it worked. It worked. A fake punt pun. I'm telling you. I swear. Hey, you got a shout. You guys got a shout out in the, in the team meeting, but I was like, I'll be damned.

That is, we got to find the Northern Colorado coach and say, what was the, what was the genesis of this? Did he see this? Yeah. He brought it up. That would be great too. It was, it was a great play. Yeah. You think about putting that in the playesis of this? Did he see this? Yeah brought it up. I mean, it worked too. Yeah, it was it was a great play Yeah, you think about that in the playbook next year? You know what that reminded me of that's like if you saw our Philly game

We ran a fake flea freak fake flea flickers screen to the tight end Yeah, it's kind of our version offensively of the fake punt punt. Yeah, it's good. We flicker. No now It's a screen. Yeah,. Flicker check down is always open. You can always, you can always get seven to 12 yards on that. We've called that play twice and it's gone for 20 on both of them. One was in an NFC championship in 21. And then the other one was against filling the divisional round. But, uh, obviously, you know how that one ended.

Yeah. So dumb question about the Philly game, by the way, uh, I was rooting against you because I did, you guys were that one ended. Yeah. So dumb question about the Philly game. By the way, I was rooting against you because I did. You guys were my pinky team this year. So if you had won the Super Bowl, I would have had to cut off the tip my pinky. So that game was very nerve wracking to me because I was like the Rams. I declare a pinky team. What do you mean, were you're pinky? Why the hell would we be your pinky team?

Because it has to be an 0 and 2 team that has Super Bowl aspirations. I can't just be like, oh, my pinky team's the Panthers this year. So it's basically saying like this team's done. You guys were obviously not done. You went on a run. I was starting to get very nervous that Philly game was, was as tight as tight could be. But my question is I it's loser talk, but is there part of you that like says, Hey, we played Philly, the Superbowl champs tougher than anyone else in the playoffs. Like, like we're right there. Do you that like says, Hey, we played Philly, the Superbowl champs tougher than anyone else in the playoffs. Like, like we're right there. Do you, do you take any solace in that?

Uh, cause that's, that's a fan thing to do and a loser thing to do. But I'm wondering if like, there's a little reality of like, Hey, we were right there. Well, here's what I would say. I, the, the answer is in some form of fashion, I think human nature. Yeah. You watch that and you say, how cool would that have been? Like the thing, here's what I'll tell you. The answer is in some form.

Yes. But then you also acknowledge every year is a new year, every week's a new week, shit like that Philly was a real team, but we did play them well that day. And they made enough plays to be able to win. We had our chances. I was proud as hell of our football team. But the thing that I was like that I thought would have been so special is if you got a chance to host the NFC championship in the midst of everything that our community had

done, like what I thought was really cool. I wouldn't even worried about necessarily winning and losing, but let's represent for the city, right? How we want to play the competitive toughness, the way that you stay connected and stay together as a team. And those guys did. It was as fun of a team as I've been a part of where there was real improvement throughout the year. But that was where you say, man, we were so close to being able to host an NFC championship for the city in spite of everything that's going on. Obviously,

Washington was a damn good team. You never know how it's going to play out. But when you watch that, I think naturally you think that, but you also aren't naive to say like, man, every week's a new week. And you just never know how those matchups are going to unfold in a, in a league that is so matchup oriented week to week. Yeah. It would've been cool to see, to see Los Angeles showing out there. That brought up something that I think we talked about at the start of the playoffs, which was, uh, the Chargers were in the playoffs. You guys were in the playoffs. There was a chance. It was an outside chance granted that both the Chargers and the Rams would have hosted the, uh, NFC and AFC championship games on the same day.

How crazy, how crazy would that have been? And also is there a difference between, uh, having Harbaugh as the coach of the Chargers and having Staley? Like, are you finding more Tens of Dip around the team facility that you guys share? Well, we don't, you know what? We don't actually ever really cross over. They have their own locker room. We have our own locker room, but Harbaugh is a stud. He did a great job.

You could see his identity all over that team. That would have been a champagne problem if we were hosting an AFC and NFC championship at SoFi that I think Stan would, Stan Mr. Crockie would gladly navigate. He'd be very happy with that. So let's talk about the acronyms. You've got two acronyms over your left shoulder, heart and fast.

Fast seems pretty familiar to me. I think that's Liam Cohen's. Did you steal fast from Liam Cohen? I wanna know what that biter said. I think that's Liam Coens. Did you steal fast from Liam Coen? I want to know what that biter said I want to know. All right. So when he so he comes on he got his he's got his acronym Liam get your own shit. Yeah I love Liam, but what did he what would how did what did he say fast fundamentals attacking situation on then toughness? Yeah situational masters, But here's the thing. I don't think you want to take credit for it because it's a terrible acronym. The double

words. Yes it is. Okay. Hold on. I don't think you know what an acronym is. You don't understand an acronym. Let me explain. Okay. That again, I just, I don't think you know what an acronym is. Do this. What does F stand for? In the stands for fundamentally sound. That's two words, bad acronym already. What does S stand for? How about just great? How about fundamentals? Let's go. That's great. That's way better. Way better. Good. What about the S situational master? Yeah. No, bad. Accord. Bad Accord. One word. Well,

Hey, you know what? I appreciate you picking it apart. I'm going to go back to work after we get out this fall. Make sure it's these one word. Yeah. But we do have to figure out a way to have an S or something. You know, yeah. Maybe maybe speed. You could do speed. It could be football, attacking speed Toughness that's fast. Yeah, but but we got to handle the situations. You can't you can't just ignore that Maybe maybe it's just understood that masters is understood. Yeah Can you ever achieve situational mastery though like mastery is a big word you want you want to drive for it?

But I don't think you can ever achieve it. I think it's like perfection, right? You know, if you come up short, you're still in that excellence category. That's the way I look at it. What do you think? Yeah, it's not a bad way to look at it. But to be fair, you also stole the standard is the standard from Mike Tomlin. I'm not afraid to admit it.

You know, if we are getting the appropriate, listen, Mike T I'm a, all let me just tell you this coaches, all the good coaches, they're great thieves. There's nothing that I've said that is original, but if we even gave the proper reference to, all right, you know, this is maybe what stimulated it. I'm good. But if you act like it's your own, now you're just lying.

Yeah. I don't think he did. And look, you have an acronym above you. No, he did. No, I don't think he did. I think it's, I think it's Liam Cohn's acronym. Yeah. You should give it to him. It's a bad acronym. It's a bad acronym. Give it to him. You have heart right above you that looks to it looks perfect. Humility, energy. What is that? It's accountability, relationships, toughness. That's a better acronym. That's a better acronym. I can be coachable. The two word thing, it resonates.

I'm not, I got no argument with you guys. I'm going to figure, Hey, I know this. The next time you have me on the backdrop is going to have acronyms with one word associated to each letter. I promise you that. I love that. How do you go about deciding like what the theme for the team is going to be next year? Is there like a retreat that you go on with your coaches and you're like, let's think

of some new weird shit that we can just put all over the walls. Perhaps, you know, um, but I would say this, we try to keep consistent messaging. You know, it's all similar types of stuff, but a lot of it is reflective of what have we experienced? And then so much of it is a reflection of, all right, what authentically resonates, like when I talk to our group, I'm talking to myself first. Like I think that connection, but it's like, if you're asking people to do something or if you want to hold up a certain standard and you're not doing it, then you're a fraud.

Yeah. So I think the players feel when you're authentically talking about things that resonate and allow you to be at your best, because all we're really trying to do is, Hey man, let's maximize ourselves. The people around the situations we're a part of. Let's, let's be real people, but let's act, interact and respond the way that we want the air. All right. It's a, is, is a culture act, interact, respond. That's a good acronym. Oh, that is good.

That is good. Interact respond. I like that. That's very good. Culture is your air. Yeah. What everybody throws out that buzzword culture. Shout out the shock of smart. I heard him say that. I'm not going to steal stuff and act like it's my own. I heard him say our culture is how we act, interact and respond. And I thought, oh, that's our air. I like that. So shout out to Shaka for that. That's good. That's good. I don't know if it's other owners, other GMs that have used you as a sounding board. If they think about hiring somebody, whether it be as a coordinator, as a head coach, um,

you don't have to name any names. Has there ever been a time when you'd be like, don't hire that guy? No, no, because I think first of all, because I'm a big believer that you're only calling if we've worked with each other. And so if the guys that the guys that have been here, I can authentically vouch for because we've worked together. We've seen what it looks like when shits hard. Um, and then that would be an admittance of failure on my part if we onboarded somebody that wasn't about that stuff. So all those guys that have gotten calls on the best part is, is that

you can talk from a genuine place and it's been awesome to see guys go do their thing. Like I thought what Liam did in Tampa was an incredible job as an OC. And you know, I'm happy for both Liam and James Gladstone. You know, that's a big loss for us too, because he was like less his right hand man. He'll do a good job, man. He's super smart. You guys should, you should get him on, on the pod. We met him and we unfortunately didn't realize that he was the GM of the Jags when we met him because he is young and we're just young. We were like, who's this guy? Yeah. But he's, but you know what he's got, he's wise beyond his years. It's like, uh, it's like I was when I was, uh, you know, first

hired, you're like, I've told you guys the story of when I was doing my second interview or basically unless you shit yourself, you're getting the job. We go over to Spago's. Have I told you guys? No. So, so basically I get a second interview and it's like, you're coming in and it's a formality of Mr. Cronkite meets you.

You feel good about this meeting. And then, you know, off to the races. Here we go. Ram said coach, but this dinner is at Spago, which is right across the street from the montage where they put me up. So it's Mr. Cronkite. It's Kevin Demoff, our team president who now oversees KSC, which is all Cronkite Sports Entertainment. And it's Marshall Falk because they wanted to invite a guy that had had a bunch of wisdom that would say like, can you really actually hire a 30 year old head coach? So it's us four at the table and spot Wolfgang puck comes up to the table.

He's a fan of the Rams. He's a fan of Mr. Cronkite. He says, Hey, when are we going to hire the new coach? You know, where's the new coach? Cause surely he's thinking this intern sitting at the table. No way this guy is the leading candidate. And I mean, everybody at that table felt very

uncomfortable. How do we really, how do I navigate this question? But that's great. Hey, got the job though. Yeah, you did. You did a real quick. I got a couple last questions. The bears traded for Jonah Jackson. Just say something awesome about him. He tough physical. You know what? We didn't miss on him. Big cat. What we did was we missed on projecting some people to play the center spot. He had some unfortunate injuries where he never had a chance to really get the foundation. This guy's a stud, stud, human stud, physically, mentally tough, dude. I I'm a big fan of him. Um, he'll do really well for him.

There's a reason why Ben wanted him back. You could see the investment in the interior lines trying to make it Detroit and Chicago. Yeah. And speaking of Ben Johnson, is part of you pissed that everyone's like, man, he's an offensive whiz kid, he's a genius, and he's not a McVeigh guy? Are you like, how is this possible?

Oh, absolutely jealous. You know, I mean, incredibly. But I will say this, the guy's done a damn good job. I couldn't believe though. He took a good shot at my boy, Lafleur. I'll be interested to see what that dynamic looks like at the league meetings, man. Shots fired, man. Here we go. Oh, you got to try to get them together in the picture.

You got to put them together in the picture. That, that's a good idea. We'll arrange that, but seems like a good dude. I don't know him. You guys have talked to him. You like him? Yeah, I think he's a very, very smart guy. And he's got like a software coding background where he was telling us that he was like working with data sets and like actually writing code when he first started coaching to like optimize the workflow. Have you ever, was that something

you ever did? Did you, did you know he's smarter than me? I mean, the guy has done a damn good job. I'm impressed watching him from afar. His guy's way smarter than my dumb ass. He also squats four Oh five. No big deal. How much do you squat? Four 10 then. Damn. I led you into that. I like his move though. He's way smarter than me, but I'll, I'll take him down.

I like getting hired and then just'll take him in the, hey, he's way smarter than me, but I'll take him down. In the weight room, yeah. I like getting hired and then just immediately taking a shot at somebody. Yeah. It's like your first day in prison. Yeah, why not? You can't let people know. Hey, did you guys ask him about that? Yeah, we did.

He said he doesn't know him. What did he say? He's like, I don't know him. I just, you know, want to beat the Packers. So I liked it. I think it was also out of respect. He was like, he's a great coach. So I want to coach against great coaches.

Yeah. All right, so see, but that, that adds a caveat that changes the whole narrative then. So it's then then that's more of a, a respectful jab. I don't know. We got to, you got to get Lafleur on here and see if he took it that way. We will, we will. All right. I got one last question. It's a row back question. R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. This has been so much fun. We always love having you on. So I assume there's a little gap in the schedule for a vacation. How do you plan where you're going on vacation? Are you like, all right, where's

Joey Bosa going? Where's Devonte Adams going? Is that how you do your vacation where you tell your wife, you're like, wait, we gotta see where our next free agent is gonna be going and then we'll bump into them. Absolutely, that is exactly what we do. How do we figure out the time enough to go to a cool spot? We might conveniently run into a position of need for us where a great player might be available. There's no doubt about it.

That's smart. That's smart. My last question, can you just remind our listeners, because we've talked about the standard being the standard and we brought it up earlier. It was originally a Mike Tomlin thing. He probably stole it from somebody else though, because that's how coaches work. They hear something. I can see Mike T making it.

Mike T is pretty, that might be a Mike T-ism. Yeah. Can you explain what the standard is, The standard means? Cause we know what it means. Like big cat, what's the standard is the standard, but can you explain to those of us who, who might not fully understand it? What does that mean? It's the standard. You got it. Great answer. Great answer. You understand it. Oh, that I do. Yeah. All right, coach. Thank you so much. Really appreciate your time. Always great having you on and, uh,

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You have to go to pardon my cheesesteak.com and you order with promo code PMC two zero. All right. Let's wrap up fire. Fest of the week. Henry, not much, not a big fire fest Tivity week for me. Really kind of just happened. Moments ago in the studio, I successfully was able to catch up to severance without it getting

spoiled. Yes. You guys were respectful this time, which I appreciate. We actually were credit to us. We were. And it's mostly because me and Big Cat are so invested in it that we, we feel you're, we have, have sympathy for what you're going through because if anyone were to spoil it for us, we would be furious. Also, it's a little different because this is a show that's actually going on and

The thing that you claim we spoiled for you was a show that happened 20 years ago Yeah, it's more than this. I told you I was enjoying this. Yeah Yeah, a little different that's the best little bit past the past. This was different. We respect spoilers in real-time television Yeah, as you should but the the I I took me a while as a slow burn, you know Watch an episode of night didn't really know what's going on until like halfway through the first season then I got fully addicted Burn through season two. I'm already rewatching it and then we were talking about it theories and stuff before and you you Dropped the bomb on me that there was three years in between seasons. Yeah, so this was one episode left in this season, right? Yeah, that's no, I think there's three episodes. Oh, thank God. That's a fire fest. If I've been so like addicted to this and it's I'm

gonna have to wait three years. It's it's a tricky game to play. So PFT has been watching it for a couple of years. I started I watched season one of severance like three months ago and then I started it. I watched it a year ago. Okay. Yeah. And then I looked up and I was like, when is the next season? Like, oh, it's happening ago. Okay. Yeah, and then I looked up and I was like when is the next season like oh It's happening in two months And then someone told me that the people who watched the show from season one had to wait two to three years for season two That's so brutal. I don't know week by week from season one you did on the first So you from the first episode I watched it week by week. Did you rewatch? No, I don't like you in this seat by the way. Memes got his wisdom teeth out so I'm here.

Okay. But, yeah, so this is my big... I like binging shows. I like just diving right into them. I don't know how people can watch a show. Like I gave up on House of Dragon. Because I watched the first season and then it was four years and I was like, I don't remember fucking shit. I'm out

Yeah, severance is the rare show that is the first like four episodes are so complicated and convoluted It's very like game. You don't know what the fuck is going on, but you can identify. This is a pretty good show I just don't understand anything. I think the wires like that too. Well, it's like when there's so many storylines Yeah, when you're watching the beginning of it, you're like, how does this connect and then once it all connects it makes it like the greatest show of all time Yeah, yeah, it's it's an awesome show but talking TV. Yeah, praise Kier. We do everything I always praise I might be rooting for Kier got to I want I want to see what that guy's got going on too Yeah, I think they're bringing Kier back. Here's good for the league. I think here might be God Yeah, here listen youir. Keir gets ratings. You need a guy like Keir. Some of that you can point

at and say, that's the bad guy. You might not like the Chiefs, but the Chiefs are on Monday Night Football. You're watching. That's Keir. Yup. All right. Well, congrats, Hank. Way to go. Way to get up to speed. Anything else? Thanks for the congrats. Yeah. Congrats. You watch a TV show. Yeah, no, it is. I'm proud of you. Congrats. Thank you. This is my time of the year.

This is like my only time of the year where I can catch up on TV shows. So I've been all in. And White Lotus. So I'm pretty good about Severance in terms of knowing that it's on Apple TV and knowing what streaming service to go to. But most other shows, I'd say I'm batting like 10%

in finding the correct app the first time when I'm looking for it I just Google it. Yeah, Google exists. Yeah There's a horrible no, but back sometimes you don't sometimes you you feel like you can trust yourself And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that one's on Hulu. No, and then you go there and you're like fuck It's not there. I just go Google because they're like for kids shows, especially there They'll be like, despicable me's on one thing and despicable me twos on another. I always just have to have to look it up. I like trying to do it the first time just to see if I'm like, it's a heat check.

I'm like, I think I got this. Yeah. And I never got that. Yeah. Also, since we're talking TV, I just, you know, had to Bill Simmons just making an entire documentary about the Celtics. Did you watch it? I'm watching it It's just very to have that type of power to be like, you know what I want to do Yeah, talk about this. Let's make a full document with the Celtics like America will love this. Yeah, I love it I'm sure you do. I am watching. I'm like this is that's power. Yeah Yeah, as a Boston sports fan, he's like he's done. So's done He's done. He's produced more porn than anybody else. Yeah, if it was a document of any other team, I'd be like I'm I Only Celtics fans are watching right right right what what obscure are more obscure than the Celtics

But what what other Boston sports story would you like to see Bill Simmons make a documentary about? I don't know. He's made a lot of he might have done all of them I mean a good Patriots one from him would be would be good like a counterbalance to the most recent one Yeah, what was it called? I? Even forget what the dynasty yeah, yeah, yeah Apple TV. Well that one was made by Kraft. Yeah, yeah, did you guys see that Netflix? also is doing a a Like Jeannie bus show oh no Kate Hudson is is way owner of the Los Angeles waves Which is it gonna be salacious wait so they're just doing the show the showtime show that they canceled I

Think it's very loosely. It's very loosely based off of it's basically just a woman's father dies and then she takes over the team. Got it. It's like a sitcom almost. Ah, got it. Yeah. Is there too much? Yes. Chet Hanks. Oh, I'm in. He's like a very main character in the show. I'm in. Too much TV? I feel like there is. Chet Hanks, does Your Honor have another episode, a season? I don't know. That's one that should have been just one season. I just forget about all these things and then like, oh yeah, this is coming back, and I don't remember anything that happened. Chet Hayes should make his own streaming app. coming back and I don't remember anything that happened. Chet Hayes should make his own streaming app. It's just any show he's in.

He also is the biggest asshole douchebag ever in the show. No way. Shut up. Shut the fuck up, Max. They should make a, I think they already did do a Bob Marley biopic, but they should do another one where Chet Hanks plays Bob Marley. That would be so sick.

All right. All right, what's your Fire Fest? My Fire Fest of the week is I spent yesterday, yesterday morning building a flight simulator in one of our studios here. And it's pretty much good to go. And I just know that I'm basically never gonna go home now. Yeah.

Cause I've got everything that I need within these walls. The, this kind of segues in my fire fest because we were the the bar so after dark we were doing it on Tuesday night we can talk about it a second but I was asking Tate like what's next and I think you're doing something next week with the white simulator and I was like this is fucking bullshit that he's just he's doing his favorite thing well it's one I know there's other wrinkles. It sounds like an awesome stream. It's my I was like shit You could just do your favorite thing well you love to eat not the way we ate no But you're not gonna love the way I flight sound not the way we I was saying it would be like it wasn't much difference

Between that and like a Sunday when oh no You would never fucking do it No, I was saying a comparable one is if I was just like I'm doing a stream and I can't leave until I win this many bets. I'm like that's what I'm gonna do on a Tuesday night anyway. I'm gonna flight sim till I puke. It's gonna be an overdose of flight sim. It's a hat tip. It's not like it is bull. It's like a that was smart of you. So it's a it's a relatively intricate flight sim that I built with the help of Sam and Spider and it's it's a Boeing flight sim And i'm thinking yeah exactly. I was thinking that maybe Boeing might be interested in sponsoring our flight simulator because they've had a lot of bad pr

It would be one way for us to actually everyone's just going to crash. Yeah How hard will I want to get on the simulator? How hard will it be to like learn it not that hard? I love it. I don't think my only rule I've got one rule for the flight sim Because you got a map of the entire United States. You can fly planes anywhere you want. It's very realistic No, 9-elevens. Okay, if you do at 9-eleven, you're suspended. I love that you're kicked out. I think not even once I feel like that's fair. I don't even one tower No, there's only one tower left There's the they built the new tower. It's just one tower. I would assume they don't have

I don't know. I don't think they have retro. I don't think so No, but they should have a mission where you can go back and be Mark Wahlberg Yeah, stop you can stop 9-eleven. I would be sick. That would be sick. If you'd want to do that. But no, I'm pretty pumped up about it. We got a stream coming on Tuesday that I'm excited about. But yeah, now that now that that thing's built, it's like, I just I'm gonna go home to sleep. And that's about it. Everything I need is in these walls. You should get severed. I might get

severed. But severed to just go home. The other thing is, you're just you here. I'm, I'm not, I'm not very good at the flight simulator. I just really, I just like doing it. Who cares? Who cares? I think it's not possible. Yeah. 10,000 hours.

I don't know if I got 10,000 hours doing that. What if you include your phone? That's only on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. I've never been good at any of the video games I play. They're still fun. They're still fun. Yeah Yeah, my my fire fest is max and I on Tuesday night for anyone who tuned in bar still after dark We did the dug dug challenge. I still don't really feel good Physically we went to what were your stats? So we went to 15 so this is your personal stuff

Yeah, so people don't know the dug dug challenge. You have a dug. I think that's the guy who created it. I can pull up his stats Yeah, so he went to the challenges you got to get in a car your team of four So is me max katik and tate and you have to go to a drive-thru and you have to say I'll have exactly what the last person through the drive-thru ordered and You have to go to as many restaurants as you can. The record is 15. So it's, it's, it's, it is a perfect challenge in the fact that you're just gambling. Every time you go through the drive-thru and if they have like the first place we went

to is Taco Bell and the person in front of us had one medium cheesy potatoes and that was like hitting the jackpot But yeah, it was it ended with Max and I and everyone puking in the parking lot in Glen Ellin it like 1230 at night and I was like, why am I doing this? Why am I here? I was just puking up milkshake But yeah, this I have I think I have what max you have what you I have both of ours up All right, so read it. Yeah, which one would you like me to read for us? You can read mine. That's fine I started so we did it strategy wise was like you eat until you're full and then you pass it off So I started the challenge go ahead big cat ate

Taco Bell cheesy potatoes Panera mac and cheese Panera's strawberries banana smoothie and a baguette Steak and shake single burger a steak and shake double burger side of fries. I mean McDonald's caramel frappe a large chick-fil-a cookies and cream milkshake a large sonic chocolate shake Three-quarters of a Wendy's chocolate frosty a quarter of a Duncan mango whatever the fuck that was That wouldn't hurt my chest and one attempt at raising games lemonade I didn't even get it where we get the lemonade so where was the original Doug Doug where's he from I don't know because I feel like doing it in Chicago is expert level yeah I mean it well we were we were thinking about going to Portillo's we're like Portillo's could

fuck us like you could just get absolutely like crush cuz like someone getting like a couple beefs you could do the Doug Doug challenge pretty easily I would think in like Seattle or Los Angeles. There are rules though, you have to. You go to the Midwest and they like their food. Yeah, there are rules like you can only go one drink place, you can only go two dessert places, you have to go to a KFC,

you can only repeat one place twice. But what happened to me is I got full, but no matter how full I am I can always eat ice cream. So I just became they were calling me the guzzler in the chat Yeah, it's like that that video with like rocks when they're like this this glass seems full But then you pour the sand in and it fills up the cracks like that's you with food milkshake Yeah, we milkshakes. We're just always poor. I was full of food I was full of food after like the fourth restaurant.

But the milkshakes, like every time we'd get a milkshake, people were like, oh who's gonna do it? It's like, I got it. Don't worry. And Max, what did you eat? Max, oh Max, the KFC when Max was like, there's so much chicken! The KFC bucket was tough. I had to lead the KFC bucket, which was probably the most difficult meal of the night but I'll just go with my full list. A Starbucks lemonade, a third of a McDonald's frappe, a half pound Arby's beef, a five piece bucket from KFC. What's in that like two drumsticks? Three drumsticks and two thighs. A spicy chicken deluxe sandwich with fries from, spicy chicken deluxe sandwich with fries from Chick-fil-A, a half of a chocolate frosty, a Duncan

chocolate Long John donut, and one and a half White Castle double doubles. And Max, so the end of the night, we finished 15, 16 is the record, we go to Raising Canes, we love Raising Canes, and and as the guzzler we like split up. We're like, alright, we're gonna try this We were we're in terrible shape and I was like, I'm gonna try to drink this lemonade I'll let you know as soon as I take a sip. I'll let you know if I can do this or not I didn't even take a sip just the action of the straw hitting my lips, it was over. So I puked, Kadek puked, Tate puked, Max didn't puke because there was a cop watching us and we thought the cop was going to pull us over and be like, you guys just puked like seven gallons in

a parking lot, you're under arrest, which is stupid in hindsight, like what are you going to do? So we all puked, we get back in the car to go home because once you puke you're out and we're just sitting there we're like we could go to a McDonald's right now like we feel good and Max is getting so mad that he hadn't puked that we had to pull over on the highway at one in the morning for him to puke. He was like this is bullshit you guys puked and I didn't. It is funny though if a cop sees like five dudes puking in a parking lot they would come up they'd be like okay suspicion of DUI, and then they give you a sobriety test and you would probably fail just from being too full

Yeah, well the the my plan was if the cop came up to us I've been like dude open up the van There was 15 fast food bags sitting in the van because we were saving them all and it was just Yeah, I'm too old for this shit, but it was fun It was one of those challenges that afterwards max. I don't know if you had the same feeling because it was hell during it but afterwards I was like part of me was like Maybe I just get rid of my family like leave my family and just go in a van with the boys and just eat all

The time like that could be my new life. It was a fun stream. Yeah, like you know, too We're gonna have to do it again. Yeah. At least a year. Yeah. At least at least a year, but we're going to have to do it again. And you could get screwed. Like if we had gone to Taco Bell and it was a, uh, like a party pack of, of tacos, we would have been out after the first one. Yeah. The KFC one seems like it was tough. White Castle. What a twist on White Castle. You think that they're going to get the tiny little burgers Why didn't they get the double doubles?

Kadek ate a shitload of stuff too. He was just house and things the White Castle. I have Kadek's list here too Alright, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah Kadek had a Popeye's fish sandwich five tenders biscuit red red beans and rice an Arby's chicken sandwich large crinkle fry three pieces of the KFC bucket a McDonald's third of a caramel frat diet coke chick-fil-a fry and three quarters of a mango refresher It was it was something it was Yeah, it was it was fun, but it was also torture because you're just stuck in a van just eating Everything and yeah yeah we'll have

to do it again Max we'll have to do it again the Doug Doug challenge yeah yeah I told I promised my mom I would never do it again but I'm I'm gonna do that with your mom weekly oh yeah also that's just like a weekly also die also I'm gonna die craziest move of the whole night was we were sitting in the in the in the van and like I said, we were going shifts so I started eating and then I think Kadek went second. So Max had not had a bite of food. He was hungry. And he just started ripping farts in the back of the van.

Had not had a piece of food. Were you allowed to indulge in some extracurricular activities to make you more hungry? Nope. Or you could have I guess. Yeah we didn't. I was smoking cigarettes. That rocks. Oh, yeah, we didn't I was smoking cigarettes That rocks I said I would have you immediately if I just needed something to like digest I was just like I was so uncomfortable like my body was so uncomfortable I felt like I had ice cream coming out of my nose. My nose started to run from being full

You got a nosebleed. Yeah, I literally eating too much. I was I was blowing right now. I was just like this is crazy I can't I can't keep all the liquid inside. I had to take a shit at a gas station at one point Yeah, it's fun time Tune into bar so after dark it is a very fun series next on Tuesday Pft is gonna be on the flight simulator and I've heard some of the details. It's very fun I believe Hank's gonna be involved. I think we got 10 people. One very special guest. Yes. Is coming in to participate in the flight simulator. One of the most famous people in the field of aviation. I'd say in the last 20 years. Sully. Haha. You sick fuck. So if you want to join the stream, let me know. Yeah. I'm

going to crash so many times. Yeah. It's also we should say quickly our friend Andy Isaac Passed away today great dude great internet guy die hard Detroit Michigan State fan one of those ones where it's like hey, I treat I think you treated something similar pfD like just try to be nice to someone today as Be as nice to someone today as Andy was to everyone online Which is hard to do because the health site that is Twitter, but Andy was that every single day

He was just the most positive person on the internet, right? And he did it all after battling cancer for I think what 15 years a long time Which is crazy and it it battled back against him and he did He was not as healthy as he wanted to be in the last couple years But he was still like the nicest guy ever. Yeah, most positive guy ever We had the chance to hang out with him a couple times and he is he's gonna be missed. Yeah, and yeah fuck cancer Yeah, fuck cancer very rare to have someone in the sports media world Just be the most genuinely nice guy and he was that and to be successful yeah yeah he was successful while also being nice online

yeah all right numbers memes out three I hope it's three so bad oh my god this would be incredible I we all just wanted to be three right yeah I'll go 33 what other numbers does he pick pug you're not on 99 put let me look up part of my balls.com What does memes usually do 21 I think he goes 33 when he can't get three Right he loves doing Right? He loves doing...

77. Is this the other one? No, no, no. Well, he's done 99, but we're not going to do that. 77. Is this the other big one? According to these stats, yes. Alright, so I'm doing 77. Oh, wait, wait.

Pause. No, number 8 is his second. He's done that 11 times. 8. Alright. Are you taking 8? 8. Alright, I that 11 times. Eight. Alright. Yo, you taking eight? Eight. Alright, I'll take 77. Does anyone want to take 33?

I'll take 33. Alright. 83! Shit. You know what? Let's do one more. Let's just do one more. For the boys. For the boys. Everyone... For the boys. For the boys. Yeah, you made it. Memes has never picked 83. Okay. Let's do one more. Let's just do one more for the boys for the boys everyone for the boys Memes has never picked 83. Okay, I'll stick with 77. I'll stick with eight Hank 36 36! Love you guys. You know what, for memes, because he's not here, let's rip a couple more.

Let's just do a couple more. I'll take... Three. Eight. Alright, I'll take 77. 99 poke. Uh, 33? Is that what I was saying?

Yeah. Yeah. Let's do, yeah, yeah, so yeah two more three Memes would want us to do yeah a bunch of 19 19 yeah, let's memes memes loves this lottery ball machine So I think we owe it to him to do at least a couple more and these all do count as official numbers I'm gonna do 11 this time I'll go with three

I'll go I'll go 33 I go 721 no I'll do 899 still a 28, 34. 14. It also would be awesome if Jack got it as well. Yeah. Like if we got a three or if Jack got it, both would be great storylines for this. Shane, you've never gotten it?

I've gotten it. Oh you have, yeah, I thought you did. Yeah, yeah, we gotta do one more for memes. Yeah, at least you did. Yeah. Yeah, we got to do one more If you know what if one of us gets it I feel like this is almost like also memes getting it Yeah, almost it doesn't won't count. It's basically memes. Yeah, you know, can I go three? Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'll go three. I'll go 17. I'll do eight. I'll do 11 Go with 99 11 that counts can we go max thing that's the thing. That's the thing about that. And wait, you're

you're sitting in memes chair. Oh man. I'll call him real quick and just let him know that his point Max got a sign. I'm so happy. All right. Also, this Max also for the stat for part of my balls when they updated all. many of those do we do six or seven six? All six of those memes it should count against memes record for not getting it right crack because he didn't get it right Yeah for any of those All right Let's see. I hope his face is away and in FaceTime off FaceTime. It's mean max. That's really mean man He got his wisdom teeth out. You're being mean to memes

It's mean max that's really mean man. He got his wisdom teeth out. You're being mean to memes And obviously it has to be swollen. He was make a joke be like your face is always swollen That's true. It's good beams. Yeah memes Hey, how you doing horn on the face time you? Hey memes,, you look good. Yeah. Good news is well you are the good news or the bad news? Who got it? Do you want the good news or the bad news? All right. Bad news is three didn't come up yet. Oh, okay. Yeah, which that's your number. Good news is Max who's sitting in your seat got it. Oh, come on. Yeah, he did. Look, 11. He's sitting in your seat. So your seat technically got it. But you did you still haven't gotten it. He's gotten it twice. I've got it three times. Three times. Yeah. What does the seat gotten it twice? I got it. That seat got it for PFT. No, that doesn't count. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

This is actually the first time your seat has ever picked the number and gotten the number. Wait memes. Are you saying that you're on the hot seat? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But I thought you wanted to know that, that, uh, Max got it. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. I Yeah, I'm happy that every all you guys keep getting it Yeah, it only took us six times to get a number today, but he did get it Should we do one more with Yeah, well, no, he can't he can't participate but you watch yeah, you can watch yeah, you can't participate because you're not in the studio He can't participate but he can watch. Yeah, you can watch.

You can't participate because you're not in the studio. Alright, numbers. I'll go 3. I'll go 77. I'll go 33. I'll go 8. 99. Give me 45.

29. 29. Nice try. You know what? Let's do one more. Yeah. 29. 29. Nice try. You know what? Let's do one more. Yeah. Let's do one more.

Let's do one more. One more. Let memes pick one. No. Well, no, you could pick one. You would pick. Okay. But it doesn't count.

All right. 33. Okay. That doesn't count though. So someone else want to pick 33? I'll pick 33. All right. Max has 33.

Oh, come on. I'll take three. I'll go ahead. I'll take someone else want to pick 33? I'll pick 33. Alright, Max has 33. Oh, come on. I'll take three. I'll go eight. 99.13. Look at 8.3. It's just lurking up there. I've never seen that. Oh shit. It's like Willy Wonka. Yeah. that oh shit it's like really wonky yeah now they're wait we've got multiple lurking up there was that 50 25 25 25 all right we love you memes we miss you all right see ya love you guys So Music So So So Thanks for watching!