Pardon My Take - Recap Of LSU/Bama Weekend, NFL Week 9, And Merril Hoge

Episode Date: November 5, 2018

Week 9 fastest 2 minutes (2:27 - 9:13). Recap of our weekend in Baton Rouge. Death Valley, seeing Coach O, hanging out with Vince Vaughn on the sidelines and Alabama is really fucking good (9:13 - 18:18). NFL Week 9 recap, Big Ben died, Rams vs Saints was awesome, Nathan Peterman is sad, Texans are a wagon, and the Done Chain (18:18 - 38:13). Football Guy of the Week including Dana Holgorsen and Jeremy Pruitt disavowing his entire childhood (38:13 - 44:10). Who's back of the week (44:10 - 56:49). Former NFL Player and studio Analyst Merril Hoge joins the show to talk about his new book on CTE, what the NFL has done right and what it needs to do better (56:49 - 80:02). Segments include Embrace Debate Bob Ryan did a tweet, Way to stay relevant baseball, Hank hot in the streets, and a Stay Woke for Space Jam 2.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we are live from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Recap of our weekend in Death Valley. Alabama shit kicked everyone. We also have week nine recap. We have an interesting interview with Merrill Hodge, something a little

different than what we usually do a little more serious. But it was an interesting discussion. Make sure that you listen to that. And then we have a little Hanks grab bag football guy the week. A packed show, not Hanks grab bag, Hanks hot in the street. A packed show for your Monday when you have the clocks changed. I hopefully you remembered that. Maybe you didn't. I don't know.

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Oh Today is Monday November 5 week 9 We start in Buffalo where the Chicago Bears asked everyone do you want to laugh do you want to chuckle well? Here's Nathan for you the show where a comedian dresses in the NFL quarterback passing interceptions around the country Jordan Howard Eskin was eating up yards like he was in a press conference auditorium and lettered Floyd Mayweather learned how to read a Quarterback's eyes with a pick six Buffalo was swimming upstream as Trey Anastasio Burton turned them into fish food with a late fourth Quarter TD and the bills are officially living in bittersweet Motel Bears 41 bills nine

It is with a heavy heart that we must report that Ben Rockless burger died on the field Sunday He thought pretty much for a second But the show must go on big pins identical and equally dumb ghost was a spooky 10 and 16 on third down And there was no bell tolling in Baltimore for the Steelers, but that's why they played the James Conor that is Joe Flacco would rather be a cowboy, baby Then throw it to wide receiver Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh with the bar to bang to dang diggy diggy diggy set the buggy set up Jump the buggy. He said only God knows why the Ravens keep losing remember to vote on Tuesday folks kid rock 2020 stills 23 Ravens 16 so spread

In our nation's capital the bastion of liberty and democracy where Clinton's dick makes his return to DC But the Redskins experience electile dysfunction lasting more than four hours Remember to vote on Tuesday folks Matt and Julio down by the schoolyard Jones finally hooked up for a touchdown the Falcons offense led by Tevin coal man We're on a mission from God and that mission was to embarrass the arm words in Raul John many people are saying this was the best Falcons performance in 2017 and 18 Atlanta 38 our words 14 He could go In Minnesota and a class of the NFC Norse where Dalvin Cookie Monster gobbled up yards

Give me my guards and Kirk Cussins was pretty fucking average Holy shit But the game was decided when Matthew Stafford had his Reggie Bush moment and a Minnesota dentist by the name of Dan Oh big game hunter finished off the Lions once and for all RIP to our good personal friend Cecil never forgive never forget Viking 24 line sign In Seattle where Phil Rivers celebrates his 200 start as this as a San Diego supercharger And they take on the Seattle Seahawks Keaton and a Keller welcome Seattle to the good burger home of the good burger may have your order I'll take half the 50 burger boom in Jeff Bezos backyard Philip Amazon Rivers still very much in his prime

Added to his family of nine by treating Caleb Sturgis like a red-headed stepchild in a tribute to Pete Carroll's obsession with loose change Russell Wilson was looking for his penny Rashard in the fourth quarter, but found a nickel back for a pick six instead Chargers 25 Seahawks 17. I gotta say teach. They're my favorite uniform in all of sports the baby blues To mile high we go with the Andre 3000 Hopkins said let me put some stank on ya and big boy Demarius Thomas said what's colder than winning against your former team that traded you earlier in the week ice cold JJ thought was setting up thirst traps for the offensive line sliding into case kingdoms DMs twice on Sunday Kick that ball in the a year Aim it like you just don't care and if you like missing kicks and all that pimp shit everybody

Let me hear you say oh yeah, you're the game came down to the final kick And I know you like to think McManus don't stink But lean a little bit closer and see that Brandon really smells like boo boo boo taxes I think Bronco 17 Down on the bayou the eight no Rams face off with the 61 Saints in a battle of NFC elites and speaking of elites Tastes some Hillary Clinton continues to email sir big plays all over the field friendly reminder to Pokemon go to the polls this Tuesday and Vote people Michael Rob Thomas thought he was being smooth taking out Andrew Lucks flip phone after scoring a touchdown and to these eyes This was the single most disgusting use of a cell phone since Brett farm you hear that cage

It's the sweetest sound in all of sports the 72 dolphins the greatest team of all time popping their champagne We now go to Mercury Mars for a comment Saints go marching 45 35 Standing on a corner James Winston Tampa, Florida such a fine sight to see It's a fact of my lord holding a clipboard thinking fucker right in the pussy Come on Newton The Panthers train is to

10 And James wins this track is a Panthers 42 Bucks 28 Panthers a bunch and a bunch not a bunch. I don't even write down in rate down We finish in Cleveland where Greg Williams led his team against the red-eyed Kansas City Chiefs The bounties must not have been pricey enough because Patrick Mahomes had 375 yards and three touchdowns. Let's go down the field where we have Patrick Patrick Patrick

Yeah, any time you go in the office a great wonderful thing And I'd like to thank Hugh Jackson for not drafting me last year Even though he's very much wanted to draft me and also thank you for not drafting tire You get cream hunt and my dad can play baseball. Thanks for not drafting him too Sat down to sit down and sit around You know, they still say his name can't see without most reverence They still gave his equipment room filled with his flashlights made out of football Hey, you boom. This is actually my chance on our visits. Go Texas Tech. Hey, the red

Raiders, I won't say that to you. That was Patrick Mahomes. Thank you Patrick. Love to be on the show Okay week nine in the books. We have a ton of NFL. We have to get to we are going to get to it But we are still in Louisiana and we need to talk quickly about our weekend. Yes. It was a great time Yes, Death Valley. Okay, so let's start with this. Let's start with the positives Mm-hmm. Okay, because we can get to the negatives But let's start with the positives death Valley the fans of LSU the scene in Baton Rouge was all absolutely electric the We were on the field before the game and it was the loudest stadium I've ever heard it was

The most adrenaline I've ever had coursing through my vein for something I wasn't really participating in and seeing coach. Oh, he did pointed us let the record show He pointed at us before the game and it was like maybe top three moment of my life Just it being around coach. Oh, like when you touch him. It's it's like drugs. Yes, it's like a mess at cocaine Yeah, it's like injected straight behind your eyeballs. It's like the guy is like a walking drug Yeah, it's like what it's like wearing socks and just walking around on a carpet and then touching someone. Yeah And you're shocked damn so that was unbelievable. I liked about the the pregame atmosphere Yes, they didn't have any of the like Mickey Mouse stuff like there was no like noise meter

There was nothing that said like no get loud noise. It's like everyone's gonna scream when you enter these walls Yes, and the tailgate was awesome We went to shout out second strings to tailgaters shout out to Fred's bar, too We went they had a whole Pig that they were roasting that looked like an elephant. Yeah, they like so I think it was a sausage Yeah, I think onto the snout of the pig They had a baby juice which was cocho's favorite juice. That's what they told me I don't think that's true, but I drank so much of it

I had that moment where I was like am I so drunk that I'm not my back isn't hurt anymore. Mm-hmm turns out that was false Yeah, I was still very injured. Yes, you were you were you were hurting a little bit? Yeah one point It's like 5 30 everyone's having a great time talking singing dancing big cat is sitting in a tent Yeah by himself in a chair trying to recoup looking at a TV that has been frozen Well, no, it was it was the end of the West Virginia, Texas game and you could watch every two seconds for every minute So it'd be like a minute of blackness and then it would come in and it would be like Oh, here's two seconds of gameplay. Yeah, and I was trying to watch our guy coach Dana So I watched some of it met two seconds out of every minute. You look good by the way

He looks great and he's he's got the flow going. Yeah, we will get to him too But so the everything leading up to the game was awesome the we got to the field like an hour before the game It was awesome. Then the bad Alabama showed up Yeah, that was a problem because Alabama really knows how to ruin a good time Yes, they're they're good at everything. They don't have a weakness everything I was just saying like the only team I can see maybe beating Alabama is Possibly Clemson, but I only say that because I'm an idiot and I know Clemson and Alabama haven't played any common opponents I don't think so. It's like

Hypothetically, they could be as good as Alabama, but I'm not sure well I like I said walking out of the stadium after the game I was like we're gonna look back at that game and that point spread and it was one of those ones where I talked Myself into it because I wanted to believe but I'm gonna look back and everyone in their record books when Alabama finishes an undefeated season and shit Kicks everyone and we're like wait you could get Alabama at minus 14 in the game in 2018 Yeah, and he'd be like that was really stupid. Why didn't we put a billion dollars on it? Well, we got swept up by a little Louisiana voodoo. We love coach. Oh, it's easy to do also shout out to Derek Mansky who hooked us up big time. We're on the sidelines. We made best friends with Vince Vaughn

Yeah, he sniffed us out as a couple football guys. He came up to us Yeah, and he did he actually made the first move because you know when you're around a guy like that You can't be like hey Vince. What's up? You know you want him to like come at you and so after I think there was like maybe a sack It was yeah on the first try the first try was electric Yeah, because Alabama looked mortal for about 45 seconds. Yeah before Alabama scored. Yes It was a close game. Yes, and so then Vince like there's a sack and Vince turns to me And he gave me the high five like the neighbor high five right and I'm like, okay

We're buddies now, and then he just started talking he just started I think he snuffed us out because I think you get to a level of celebrity where No one really wants to talk about football with you because they're all just like probably Vince Vaughn like walk around like hey Vince, can you make this movie? Hey Vince? Can you sign this? Hey Vince? Can you come to this thing? We were just sitting there talking about football. So he was like ooh these guys. They're pretty normal Let me talk about football. I did have to school him on a little punt theory when they went out when LSU should have gone for it On fourth and one on like the 42 and he's like no punting. I was like bro He's gonna they're gonna kick in the end zone. It's gonna be a 20 yard

And when they were down like 30 to nothing or whatever it was like hey if they score a touchdown here They should go for two. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Wow. You guys really know it. And then we really know the game. We also I just was happy that that like if he can get into a conversation with somebody and Have it last longer than 10 minutes without somebody saying to him. You're so money. You don't even know it Yep, he's like I like this person and credit to us because we never said hey Vince We want to have you on our podcast. Yeah, we know that was actually like a very like hey You know what you got a job to do. We got a job to do We're gonna respect your celebrity, but it will be someday we will get them on the podcast

And it'll be funny being like hey remember us like I don't fucking know you guys Yeah, he was wearing the same shirt at the Saints game that he wore it in Baton We also saw Odell Beckham long-time listener. Yeah, probably not I did the move where whenever I see a celebrity I just walk up to when I say hey man Great to see you again, and then it takes him a second to be like I don't fucking know this guy Yeah, so he like he like gave me a full handshake when I said that and then he saw you put your hand out And he's like wait, I don't know these guys fuck this He was like I'm getting trapped into a handshake a line of handshakes

I did not sign up for yeah My move is to say to people like that are obviously way way way bigger celebrities is hey man heard your big fan Yeah, yeah, but seriously, it's a I'm defeated and now I know how bad this is gonna suck for us now because people are gonna Do this to us yeah, but when you walk up to a celebrity just say hey great to see you again They will immediately have that pause we're like how do I know this guy and then you're in yep Then you're absolutely now Odell's case. We weren't in he just literally breezed right by it, but we were in can I Can I just say so Mondays are for telling the truth? Yeah tell the truth Mondays coach. Oh install that he put it in us I'm not happy with you and with Hank okay because you guys left me out to dry

Yeah, I basically got arrested on the side. You didn't almost get arrested before the day You want to guess you got arrested well? I was detained off the field and then but then he per the cop pursues me grabs me by my arm And he's like you're coming with me. Mm-hmm. He I guess you weren't gonna get a rest You didn't kick off the field. He didn't think I was supposed to be there Yeah, it was it was an aggressive detainment and then big cat and had to run away. Yeah I look over at big cat and Hank and what are they doing? They're running away from no We were running I was walking he basically said if you're not working you shouldn't be on the sidelines

So he started to kick people off So immediately what I did was I took out my phone and pretended I was taking videos Then he came up to me and was like hey, you're not working But we had one of one of our LSU guys tell the cop off. Yes, but I responded more to step in listen I don't you did I don't think do you think we did anything wrong? You would have done the exact No, this is a point where you were never getting arrested and I was calling you make sure everything was all right You're gonna get back on the field. You have a pass If you were in real danger, I would have stopped it listen

Here's the thing big cap because I did get arrested one time before at a dog show and you did not get arrested Now I'm beginning to see a little pattern. Well, so money's listen. Yeah, I don't need to make this a big thing Okay, I just I wanted to say it rather than stew on it. Yeah, all right So I'll tell the truth too about it your looks always get us in trouble. That's true So that's really what the common theme is. Yeah, you always look sketchy and when we did the dog thing You were I was like, hey, maybe don't wear sweatpants. You're like what we're fine Yeah, don't wear sweatpants and purple shoes when we're trying to get in somewhere No, so I think we got if we got to reconfigure the if we're trying to get places

We need to maybe clean up our look don't try to change when I say clean up Also is credit to me because I realized that we had passes that got us everywhere And I just walked on the field whenever I wanted. Yeah, that was pretty nice It was it was great and again like the game was awesome until it started if you're in trouble I would have stopped it, but you weren't in trouble. I knew exactly I've been on a field before they kick people off before the game starts and then you just gotta act like you're supposed to be there Oh, I know. I know you you don't look like you're supposed to be there ever. Okay All right, so should we do some

And it felt do you started to tell the truth Monday? No, yeah, I didn't know I didn't know it was just gonna I mean, we need real hard into my whole my whole look. We weren't sweatpants. You wanted the truth No, it's wearing mugsy jeans. Okay. We got all right. Good. Good. Good cuz I was gonna say I would have blamed you for the sweatpants But that's yeah, that was not that you were asking for it But no, it has nothing to do with what I was wearing. Yes, nothing your provocation was not there. All right. Let's do week nine So where do you want to start? We got a lot? Yeah, let's start this. I mean this game was awesome. Yes, I think the best game of the year. Yes, so much offense It was fun. We had Michael Thomas pulling the Joe Horn. Mm-hmm taking a cell phone out. What do you think you put the cell phone there?

Probably pregame but that was that was a hilarious move because it was like it was like oh man I've been watching NFL for so long that that your instant call back and I don't even know when Joe Horn happened 2003 15 years That one feel old. Yes, Joe Horn was 15 years. I was thinking that in the moment Like there's probably a lot of people who don't like kids were watching this like what's going on But immediately everyone's like oh Joe Horn, you know what I would do if I was Michael Thomas I would so if I scored a touchdown, I had my phone there I would just log in a live bit real quick on the over because they probably haven't updated the system because you literally just Just scored before anyone you're the first person that knows that you scored a touchdown. That's smart

Yeah, I like that thinking ahead. So I have a take on this game. I think that was a statement loss for the ramps Okay, because They basically had everything go wrong in the first half the dome was rocking the Saints were rocking It felt like it was an avalanche coming down on them Yeah, and the way they came out in the second half even though they didn't win the game that was championship resolve Yeah, no, it's good and Jared golf He had a couple passes in the first half that were just absolute dimes that would drop like he's really good Yes, really good. We also have so the Saints are the Saints have not lost since week one

They are on fire and I don't really know like the NFC's got the Saints the Panthers and the Rams and the Bears and the Bears Are like the NFC's got loaded. They're good. Well, let's talk about the Bears real quick because yeah, that was shit I was kicking. Yeah He kicked the shit out of himself three three you had an assist from Nathan Peterman on this one three Interceptions and I'll go right now to my fun fact of the day two of those weren't his fault after throwing three Interceptions and zero touchdowns on Sunday Nathan Peterman's career QBR rating improved from 20.8 to 30.7

I love that he improved by throwing three interceptions Yeah, so he's getting he's getting stronger at the worst that he gets it's I'm at the end of the year He's gonna have like ten interceptions in game and he's gonna be playing at Pro Bowl level. I agree I well, no, I don't agree But I am starting to feel like this is actually cruel that they keep putting mouth there like Shawn McDermott. What are you doing? Yeah, you can find anyone basically anyone well, and I mean anyone They could play quarterback, but how many draft picks would you give up for Nick Mullins right now? Give up everything. Yeah, I'd risk it off risk. Oh, we have Josh Allen though

That's the best part about this though because actually now that I'm thinking about it keep putting Nathan Peterman out there Josh Allen keeps continuing. He's continually the savior of Buffalo. Yeah, the most popular guy in town is the backup quarterback Absolutely, and he's getting the anti-look treatment right now. So he's progressing to he threw a football today He wore helmet on Friday. Yes, that was big. Yes, we're getting back actually Hey, Josh, if you're listening just don't play this here. Yeah, don't play just let them get an offensive line together That was that was one of those games. Oh, obviously the bills are not good But well when you're a when you're a not-good team when you're think you're a playoff team like the Bears and you go play a Not-good team you better kick the shit out of them to like those are the games you got to win and I'm starting to feel it

Are the Bears are the Bears a better team without Khalil Mack top of the NFC top of the NFC north. Yeah, think yeah well, I That was actually very smart of Coach Nagy to basically say we can have two bi weeks here with the Jets and the bills and let Khalil Mack get healthy Yeah, so the the other thing is Sam Donald. Oh trash. Oh, he's he's bad Sell the stock. You know what if I was Hugh Jackson, I wouldn't be saying like hey I wanted to draft Pat Mahomes last year. I would just go around reminding people. Hey, I didn't draft Sam Donald this year Yes, and it was perfect too because we were watching at the bar and

We're like, oh man this switching hour sucks There's no no no games that are one score games like and Caleb who's sitting was like Oh, what about the Jets? Dolphins and then instantly like literally as the words came out of his mouth Mm-hmm Sam Donald threw a pick six and made it a 10-point game You know between the the Michael Thomas Joe horned cell phone thing and watching a game watching all the games in a bar without red Zone I felt like I was back in 2003. Yes. Yeah, there's like a little blast from the past Not having instant score just updates all the time in my face

It was kind of nice, but then when I got back I put red zone on my computer in my room and at the end of the day on red zone They do that compilation the massive compilation of every scoring play. Yeah, and here's how awesome the NFL is and just football in general I got nostalgic for watching the touchdowns that I had already seen scored earlier in the day Well, I was watching them four hours later. I was like, I remember that. Yeah, oh, I remember where I was Yeah, I was sick. Yeah, yeah, that's and then we had the biggest news which we I can't believe we took us this long to get to Big Ben died. Mm-hmm for a second. Yeah, or so we thought he thought he thought he was dead The most big Ben injury of all time he got tackled on a on a QB run

Went down in a heap Late on the ground while like 10 trainers came and watch them. They had the perfect sky cam Looking down on his dead body. Yeah, and then after the game. He said I thought I died for a second He's like hoping T-Bow would show up and revive them This is the craziest thing is people people don't understand like we're not big Ben is Unquestionably one of the toughest quarterbacks in the league. Yes He also lets you know about his injuries more than any quarterback that has ever existed. Mm-hmm of all time Yeah, oh my god. Can you imagine the sound that Big Ben makes when he's getting up off of a couch?

That's like four inches lower than his normal couch. Yes It's it's insane how he milks these injuries and it like we said it before He's like a dog that doesn't want to go for a walk in the winter. Yes. I can't my foot doesn't work Yeah, I'm like so it's are all tightened up. Yeah, then you go back inside. He's just sprinting around So there's that and there's also I think he just didn't know what was going on with his body He was he had to take like a few seconds to figure out which part of him was hurt because having the wind knocked out He gets you can't like point at your chest. It's weird. It's a very strange injury. Yeah, that's right I have that's what he was just trying to figure. I don't know what part of my body

This is that hurts, but I don't feel right and then I I think in his mind He was just like it feels like my chest needs to fart. Yeah, like my breath needs to fart, but I can't fart Someone needs to come and burp him. Yeah, that's really what he was saying He's like someone get my wife come and burp me because I'm a big Ben baby who can't breathe Yeah, but yeah, he's good Raven's not looking so great. Yes. So the Steelers are back. Listen Steelers are back and I don't I don't say this lately, but I'm sick of John Harbaugh's mock turtle next. I think that's what the problem is Okay, find you somebody in this world that loves you as much as John Harbaugh likes wearing mock turtle

Okay, I actually like that. Although I think John Harbaugh is a great coach, but I I don't hate that Yeah, like, you know, they're gonna have to make a move though. I don't I don't want to say Oh, I don't want to I don't want to talk about Flacco yet, but I mean he missed Lamar Jackson when he was wide open But the Ravens defense they gave they we said in the the Fast two minutes 10 for 16 on third down for the Steelers. It felt like every time I looked up They were just dinking and dunking first downs. Yeah, they couldn't get off the field We also have the weirdness that is Levy on Bell continuing. So James Connor Here's another fun fact for you James Connor the most touchdowns through eight games in Steelers history rushing touchdowns

Yep, since 1950 So probably don't need Levy on Bell. You do actually you actually do you do leave you on bell But this is the point that people are making like James Connors, you know, just as good But Mike Tomlin also had the very bizarre quote when he said we want what do you say? We want volunteers We want volunteers not hostages. Yeah, I don't understand that it's classic Mike Tomlin. Yeah, it's great I guess he says that he's just I don't know if you don't want to be here. Don't be here It's yeah, right, but it's also great Mike Tomlin because Mike Tomlin's the king of saying something and The minute it hits your ears

You're like, ooh, that sounds good and then it and then as soon as your brain starts to register what said it's like wait That didn't make any sense. Yeah, no that I mean a lot of football guys have that exact same quality Yeah, just people just speakers in general. Yeah, if you can make somebody feel something when you're talking Then it doesn't matter what words were actually said you've done your job already down the hallway Yeah, they figure out that what you said was absolute gibberish. Yeah, so I actually I do think that The Steelers are like they've moved on it's like if you're in a relationship, right? And you start a new relationship and maybe your new girlfriend is like into art or like jazz After like six months, you're like now. I'm an art guy, too

Yeah, like you've part of you has changed you start change. Yeah now I think the Steelers have like changed a little bit and they're like we like James. There's definitely a conversation being had between Two yinzers at a bar right now being like, you know what James Conner hits the whole hard with Steelers football Yes, but we're back to Steelers football. We're not dancing around behind the line like leave me on bell Oh, I conversations happening and guess what if our stillers fan, I'd be having that conversation, too I would have been having it a couple weeks ago. Yeah, let's play some Smash Mouth stillers football Yeah, one other note that I had here that we saw a lot of flea flickers today. Yeah But it just dawned on me the underneath route on a flea flickers always always open everything

I think there were like three passes completed to the underneath guy. Yep. It's that's that's the new Philly special Doing the flea flicker never throwing a deep never throwing a deep just doing a short Philly special Yeah, oh, how about we didn't talk about big Ben's punt today. Okay? He's good for about one of those one of those a year and I don't know Maybe I'm wrong, but like was he always left-footed. He doesn't know what foot. Yeah, he doesn't know He definitely if you took his if you took his shoes off, there's definitely a note He made to himself. Yeah being like this is your punting foot Ben. Yes. Yeah He's got a tattoo on his foot. He probably needs a walking boot just for the pun

He probably does he I guarantee you when he's putting on his shoes He doesn't he holds his hands up is like well the left hand makes the word else. Yes, this is my left shoe That bit that punt that really hurt Pain is it the toe of the walk and it was cold today. I haven't squared just like Jack Dempsey's Oh, that ball was that ball was hard as a rock, Ben we have We have to talk about the hottest team in football Okay, the Houston Texans. Yeah, we do. So

Kind of an issue they've won. Oh, yeah, that's another thing. We learned we talked to a hand surgeon at the tailgate Mm-hmm, and this was a very drunk conversation that we all had with him, but I'm pretty sure he agreed to Watch as it happened and make sure nothing goes very very wrong He said he legally cannot cut my pinky off Actually, he might not have even been a hand surgeon He was just like a guy that wants to watch you cut your hand. Yeah, but he said I'll come it up He's like I'll numb it up for you and I'll make sure nothing goes wrong. I was like that's good for me Man, well, we talked about any and then he like walked away and like chugged a beer and took some and shotgun some baby juice

I was like that doctor knows what he's doing. That's a Louisiana doctor. Yeah, right by numbing you up He means he's gonna give you a big stick that you can bite down on. Yeah, pretty much. So yeah So the Texans have won six straight So they were started oh and three we done change them They've got six straight I if they win the super life to cut off tip my pinky, which I actually feel fine. I feel fine Mm-hmm. I'm fine. No, I'm fine Have you taken stock of like when was last time you used your pinky? I've been trying to actually funny you say that on my left hand

I've been trying to use my pinky less just to get my body used to it if I were you I'd use it more Oh, no, I'm trying like it. No, I'm one last hurrah, and I no longer touch your butthole Yeah, no, I no longer do the dingleberry swipe with my pinky. What wait, what's that? Oh shit, I got a dingleberry in here. We just pick your asshole. No Yeah, yeah, you just so I'm not doing it anymore though, dude. Okay. So why are you shaming? I'm not doing it. No, it's good I haven't done it. I'm glad that you're not walking around touching your asshole in the middle. Yeah, and I'm not pointing at people I think either proud of you. Yeah. What's that stats that's department? That's bullshit someone said that I don't believe that fucking shit. Come on. So you're gonna be a really bad driver now

Well, it's a lefty. So it's not a big deal. The we had into me we also have We have the the Contest of the goats so Packers Patriots also another really good game Colin Coward had the best tweet of it by far he said but but but Imagine imagine I'm like a little nerd Who's playing fantasy football and like I got I got the spectacles. I got pimples and everything And I'm just like, but but but Rogers is out playing Brady. Uh, who cares? I don't play fantasy football never have

I'm old-school. I care who actually wins the game. Damn. He dunked on everyone there. That is pretty good But but that's a great is out playing Brady Colin That's a that's a really good impression. Who the fuck says that who's like saying I mean I think we all agree that the winning the winning quarterback like no one's gonna come away from it being like But but but Rogers out play Brady. Yeah when the fucking Patriots won by 14 points. Yeah, and and Brady out played Rogers Yeah, I think he had a better a better fantasy night too. Exactly man My my theory is like he's got kids and he just hates one of his kids and whenever he gets a text from them Yeah, he's like, okay, this is what all the kids are saying. Yes, and then he proceeds to roast them

But yeah, but but Colin the Packers did okay considering they lost like nine defensive players This was this happens every year to the Packers There's one prime time game where their entire defense gets hurt all at once. Yeah, and Brian blog Brian blog you just Brian blog you just throw him and he actually doesn't get enough credit for being like the Sean Lee of The Packers where it's just like up Brian blog is injured again. Yeah him Well Clay Matthews always has like something going on. Yeah, I feel like Clay Matthews has like a One of those giant casts on his hand. Yeah, but Aaron Rodgers said that the team doctors in Green Bay are great. That's true Anything oh we got a joke. Yeah, I wrote a joke down. It's a clicks one

So I feel like we should do a weekly Clinton Dicks. Okay ready for this. Yep. Okay. Hey, man Earlier this season the Packers had Clinton Dicks and Whitehead two things that can explode and leave a milky stain on your clothes Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's really good. That's good. Thanks. That's good. I'm glad I stopped You put in a lap track Should we do done change? Yeah, let's do it. I have a few teams that I want to throw out. Okay. Nominate them All right jets to the committee. I don't think we've done change. We have not done. They need to be done. No Well, any time you got Todd bowls. Yeah, that's true jets lions Lions have the dungeon. They do have the done. Yeah. Okay. We we are terrible at this

We do this every week and yet we still can't keep track of who we've got a bad teams out there Alright, so the jets were were one that I wanted to throw out there the lions obviously so you're saying they've been done chained I think so if they weren't previously done chained. I'm doing it now Okay bucks need to be done chained if they have not been done chained. Mm-hmm, and I think that's it So, yeah, what do you got? Let's done change the bucks. You don't want to do the jets No, because the division is so good So I'm very confident when the NFC South like having the Saints and the Panthers wait But the jets aren't gonna catch the Patriots. Oh, they could

Okay, no, they're not they're absolutely not but but what I'm saying is like They're I think the bucks are basically guaranteed that's gonna be them and the Falcons in a knife fight and the Falcons No, the Falcons. Okay. We need to talk about Falcons played the best game in 2017 18 today They did they took it to the Redskins. They did like took it to him. It was bad But the Redskins had some bad injury luck. They're off. That's what they're two players Everyone's got injuries. They're two best players on the offensive line. We're everyone's got injuries. Okay. Well, it's NFL I'm not this was an aberration. It's aberration season Okay, our words going ten and six eleven five. They still gotta play the Eagles twice

I did I did mark this one down as a W when I was looking ahead at the schedule I was saying yeah, I was saying to you at the bar was like, hey PFT Did you have this March as a W? Like, yep I did that was the moment when I knew when you you've been telling people like Redskins NFC. Yeah, it's just like week two. Yeah, it's not because I think that they're that good of a team I think the division sucks. Yeah, I just think the Eagles are gonna come on because that's just Get over there super will hang over. Yeah, they're gonna get over it. They're gonna finally wake up Get some sleep. One other thing we need to talk about tonight's game. Oh, so Cowboys prime time. Yeah, Jason Winton

Talk about the Cowboys. So he did a whole thing, right? He did like a article where he where he said I hear the haters. He did. I think so I didn't read it Yeah, if you either die. Yeah, I just know he did it Honestly, like there's no easier way to get me to like just nod off than to say the words Jason Winton wrote an article Yeah, Jason Winton says he hears the haters. Okay, so what do you want to talk about the I'm just interested to see how he Handles like talking about the Cowboys. He's gonna be talking about how great mr. Jones is. Yep What a great class organization. They are a lot of memory lane He might he might actually get better being in his like home environment. It's in Dallas, right? Yes

Yeah, so it's like in Independence Day where the ship goes into the mother ship and all of a sudden all its features turn on again Jason Winton's robot body is gonna just start lighting up in different places near the star You know what they're gonna do and it's gonna make him feel good about himself They're gonna do like a billion Jason Winton flashback. Yes, and so that's good. He's gonna remember like oh, yeah I did play. Mm-hmm. I do I am somebody. I'm good at stuff. I'm good at this. Yeah, like people like me I would read that article just an article of Jason Winton talking himself up. Yeah, like hey Jason Remember you made all those pro bowls when you would catch like 650 yards and three touchdowns a year for 10 years. Yeah, remember when you ran with your helmet off

Mm-hmm people remember that that is something Jason Winton. Hey Jason You remember when you were Tony Romo security blanket? Yeah, and then he eclipsed you when he became an announcer and was better at your job Oh crap now. I'm talking shit. Oh, no. Yeah, Jason. You're great. You're tall. Yeah, you're great You're your hair looks like it has come back. Yeah miraculously boogers not in the booth yet. You must be doing something, right? Yeah, boogers boogers got his TV taken away Jason. Yeah, think about that I bet you Jason Wynn just requested to make boomers little or boogers little apartment like less cool Can we get rid of some of the cool stuff? Jason Wynn probably has boogers TV on the back of his chair in the booth now. Yeah, just just just facing a wall

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Let's fucking win a game and then will Greer wins the game and that's the most badass thing going for two on the road to win A game is such a badass move. I like it. Yeah, I mean, it's awesome Even if you lose that game you actually win right and shout out Trent Dillford He says that you can't win and lose at the same time. Oh, yeah, I think you can yeah I think it's trodingers loss if you're able to like put your balls out there on the 50 yard line and say I'm not afraid of losing this game. You walk away being like that was me. Yeah only losers are afraid of losing That's true. That's Dana Holgerson is a winner because he's not afraid of losing. Yes What's that old saying from from point break fear is the absence of I can't remember

Fear is when your fear is weakness leaving the body. No fear is when you're I can't remember someone tweeted at me There's a real big movie. Yeah, you have fear socks go for two. Yeah, that was what it That's what he said. No fear fear tastes like chicken. Yeah We have Jeremy Pruitt coach of Tennessee fear causes hesitation and hesitation causes your worst fears to come true He says that to him right as they jump out of the plane The only thing we have to fear is fear itself and yeah, I was Patrick Swayze. Yeah, Patrick Swayze said that in point break Okay, Johnny Utah, Utah give me two. Yeah, get it. Remember Ohio State legend. Okay. We have Jeremy Pruitt coach of Tennessee Fun time whenever Halloween comes around and

Journalists try to do this little trick like hey, you're a football coach But in your past life, you are a human being right wrong. So he asked someone asked Jeremy Pruitt. Hey, it's Halloween Do you remember any fun costumes you had when you were a kid and he just said no, no, I don't have Costs no, I did I didn't dress up as a kid. Why would I want to dress up like something that I'm not it is so great That doesn't make sense. It's so great when media tries to humanize these football coaches and they're just so resistant to it Like what are you talking about? I was never a child. Do you remember? I was born a 40 year old overweight man in a tracksuit Yeah, no, I came out of the womb in a polo shirt and khaki advisor and my polo shirt tucked into my khaki

No belt on two hours of sleep. Yes. That's how I came out. I listen I set up a film study station inside my mother's uterus. Yeah, it was actually great. No one was bothering me there No outside distraction. No rat poison. I'd like to be a baby again. Did you see that? Ben Watson scored a touchdown and he did he put the football underneath his jersey And then held up seven fingers because he's already got five kids Holy shit, and he was announcing that his wife was pregnant with twins. That was the that was the reveal Yeah, did his wife know that she was probably not well if she didn't know twins Yeah, that would be quite a way to do it. There's gonna be a gender reveal. Yes

Yes, someone's gonna explode a football after you score the touchdown. It's gonna be blue. Oh Man for the gram. Okay. We have a rusty wit Strength coach for Texas Tech so a player or sorry if a student ran on the field and Rusty wish wit strength coach Texas Tech tackle them that has to be The best moment for strength coach when they know that they can go and just be violent with someone and not be charged Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, his tackling form left a little to be desired He went like yeah to chest with him a little bit. He was he was bumping titties. Yeah, that's right

Heads up football. Yeah, don't get concussion. That's true. Meryl Hodge will tell you all about it. That's true His name is rusty wit rusty wit. He literally means no funny business. Yes, exactly. I like the way I like that He's got my vote so far. Yes, okay, and then last we had Johnny got Ottawa red blacks offense alarm. Is that offensive red blacks? Yeah, yeah Red colors red be words tend to be offensive. Yeah, let's be careful So the Ottawa red be words is that the Arby's the art the Ottawa Arby's they're named after sandwiches Yeah, yeah, the Ottawa Arby's he scored the his team scored a touchdown and he went he's got a beard He's got the whole fucking offense alignment thing going. He went and he got a course original now

I don't want to beer-splain you okay, but I said it was a course original Those were the initial reports based on what I was seeing on the ground. Okay. It was I'm going from your report Yeah, it was actually a Canadian microbrew and I got well actually by Canadian beer. I think this dings him a little Yeah, chugging a banquet beer like course original. Yes, that's a football guy move So he chugged the whole beer from the stands It was an awesome moment. He chugged in autumnal mead. Yeah, basically. I don't I don't know about it now Okay. All right, so vote for our football guys the week. We're gonna put up the poll Yeah, coach Dana coach Dana. Okay, so we're gonna put the poll vote at part of my take

Um, let's do who's back. Who's back? You want to start? I would like to start I do it my who's back the week is Floyd Mayweather Junior, okay, really the once retired boxer is back. He's gonna be fighting No one knows whether it's a boxing or an MMA fight per se. Yeah, probably figure that out. Yeah, yeah in Japan against tension naso kawa His name is literally tension. Wait. This sounds fake T. N. S. H. I. N. No, they did a press conference tonight They said they haven't figured out the exact details, which means there's a decent chance it could get canceled But here's the thing if you're fighting against Floyd Mayweather

You can slip whatever you want to that contract because he's not gonna read. No, that's true and tension is 20 years old Wait, so he's an undefeated kickboxer. All right, so Floyd's gonna box him Wait, is this gonna actually be a real fight? Like am I gonna have to buy this because I'll buy it and I don't buy it But I'm gonna have to fucking buy in your years. Yeah that worked real well for college football. God damn it Yeah, but it's gonna be it's mean New Year's Eve or New Year's Day because Japan's different time zone. Oh, good call Yeah, so it's gonna be like I don't mess you up. It's gonna be tomorrow. Yeah. Oh, if I never gonna get here or ahead No, they're behind. Yeah. Well, no, they don't do daylight savings time. So they're so it will probably be like it's seven in the morning

No, thanks. I'm out. It's gonna be a set. Well, you might still be awake if it's New Year's Eve Thanks, New Year's Day morning. They're definitely catered to the American time audience listen if That that good old-fashioned American time audience If it's anything but a boxing match Floyd Mayweather's a certified idiot, yes, I'd agree. I'd agree That's why I think she's gonna get kicked in the face. Yeah, this is all fake There's no way he's doing I mean they did a price at the press conference with the guy the guy's name is tension fake press conference Regarding the rules and wait the chairman said that we still have some work some more work ahead of us And everyone I've talked to so they'd be shocked if it's MMA. That's what Ariel. Hello, Wani said, okay

All right, they have they have minor details to work out like what weight and what rules are going to sounds like that How are they gonna have a press conference for a fight? That's not a fight yet either way Floyd Mayweather is back in the Okay, good point. This is at least until the end. Are you ready for this? Okay. All right Pft. What do you got my who's back of the week is horny LeBron? Mmm LeBron had a couple glasses of vino if you checked his Instagram stories on I think Friday Well, you can just pencil man. There's a night. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah Well one for him and then one for his two-year-old and then one for his 13-year-old

So he had some vino and he went on Instagram and he liked a picture from the account big tits for nips Which is I think it's better than perfect booze definitely better I don't know what big tits for nips when it be big nips for tits big tits for nips I'm gonna defer to you as the big nip guy. I do like big nips. I have big nips. I'm I enjoy big breasts I have big breasts. Yeah, big tits for nips. Maybe it's a trade thing. Like I don't know those big tits and it's hoping that Oh, and then big nips. Yeah, you get nips. It's for like like for like type thing. I like that You should send my nips in and see what happens. See if we get some big back trade my nips. I'll trade them Put him on the stock market. Yeah

So so LeBron liked this picture and then he quickly unliked it after the internet classic got a hold of it But yeah, he was definitely just drunk cruising his does he follow that account or is at some point on Thursday night LeBron Had to manually type into Instagram keep big tits for nips He probably has a burner account that's like, you know Kevin Duran has a burner account to basically tell everyone that he's not a triple B even though he is LeBron has a burner account It's just the horniest burner account of all time. This follows all the weirdest doesn't realize you can look at porn He's just like Instagram is where the porn's at. I like that. I like that a lot my other. Oh, by the way It's just speaking of LeBron. Yeah, cuz it's a segue to my you do your other huge back after this

But one of my who's back is LeBron getting coaches fired. So he gave Luke Walton a vote of confidence So you know what that means and then magic said we have no plans at this time Yeah, you know what that means when LeBron says no, I like Luke Walton. Yeah, you're done. You're done. Kiss of death Suspect kiss of death. My other who's back is Jamarcus Russell. Oh, so report came out that I don't know why this report came out today Like Jamarcus Russell hasn't been in the league for what ten years Also, it came from David deal who never played with Jamarcus Russell Interesting. So anyway, I'm not like commented on the the 2015 Chicago Blackhawks like he was an insider I think David deal might have a problem with just saying things that he thinks might get headlines, which just did

Yeah, I'm not gonna let the facts get in the way of a good story on this one So he said that Jamarcus Russell His rookie year when they'd send him home to study the playbook to study like the film from last week They give him VHS tapes and the tapes were all blank. By the way, now. Yes, it's a timeline bullshit Yeah, it's dawning on me. You made this story ten years ago. You made this story up David Nobody gives me a yes. Yeah, you made this story up David deal Anyways, he said I'm gonna still act like the reports true He said that they would give him blank tapes and then he come back in the next day and they'd be like, hey

Would you watch? He's like, oh, I watched a part about Blitz's Yeah, I mean it did like he did a terrible job of telling a fake story I think we got to that. Yeah, just went out. Yeah, explain yourself David deal Also, it's kind of bullshit like I'm not a jarred Marcus Russell fan But it is bullshit to pile on a guy ten years after he's been a bus like he's already gotten He all know things didn't go well. We all know he was out of shape We all know he wasn't good as a quarterback in the NFL like why why are we all of a sudden like week 9? 2018 be like hey, do Marcus Russell, you know who sucks to Marcus Russell

I do a little calculation in my head when figuring out whether or not it's appropriate to pile on somebody like 10 years after the fact I'm thinking he still has more than 20 million dollars in his bank account. That's like the number for me Yeah, I wouldn't if a man has more than 20 million dollars. I mean he made what like 70 80 mil how much money did Marcus Russell make? I don't think judging just based on the famous fur coat picture Yeah, feel like to Marcus Russell probably wasn't super super good with his money Why why would you say that because of the fur coat thing like he took those fur coats? I think did he take a picture with a lion and shit like yeah, but he counterpoint He lives in Louisiana, and this is a very it's a very liquid state

True cash friend you wear fur coat. It's tough to spend a million dollars in Louisiana But if you wear a fur coat, I'm just like okay either you're gonna die on the Titanic or you don't take care of your money Yeah, that's based on the fur coats. He's got two mil. He's got two mil. No, okay, so don't pile on. Don't pile on That's the asshole move. Yeah, I was gonna say like it's tough to spend a million in Louisiana Only because not because like things are super inexpensive here, but because people just give you stuff Yeah, when you walk around it's us. It's no no No, you walk around to a tailgate and they're like hey come join our gumbo line true or shout out to those guys who gave us Capri Suns that were infused with Everclear. Mm-hmm that one. That was nice. I was a wild one

All right, my who's back is Texas not being back Okay, so West Virginia ruined that and also Tom Herman making a fool of himself So Tom Herman complained after the game that he thought that will Greer high stepping and reaching for the goal line Should have been a penalty and therefore negated the two-point conversion. Yeah, I went back I reviewed the tape on this so there's no high step he extended the ball Yep to break the play-in of the end zone as one does when scoring a touchdown And so Herman thought that was Mickey Mouse and that that there's no place for that in football reaching out to score a touch Okay, so here's where not against his team

Here's where it falls apart for me with Tom Herman if you remember just a year ago when they were in a bowl game against Missouri And he was mocking Drew Locke in his like gun salute. Mm-hmm He was basically like showing up the other team and then when he loses He's crying to the media and saying that will Greer like was unfair. Yeah Come on, Tom Herman. It's I think I like Tom Herman, but I can't figure him out. Listen. He does weird shit I'm gonna be very very honest with you. I am going to say that I like Tom Herman because there's a chance We can get him on the show at some point. Okay, that's where I'm saying, you know what? That's a totally fair thing to say. So if you do you think we can yeah

I think Tom Herman was totally in the right by saying will Greer should have gotten this over me too I was bolstered. We could get will Greer on the show. Oh, you know, no, so you know what? But there are elements on both both sides. Both. They're good people on both sides. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, okay We'll leave it at that settled. Yeah settle All right, let's do our interview so a little background in the interview Meryl Hodge It's definitely different than any interview we've done. Yeah, it's a little more serious. Meryl Hodge has a new book out I think I think we explained our side pretty pretty well in the interview But basically to sum it up

We think that Meryl Hodge the plot part of his book is crazy So that makes him a little crazy that kind of takes away from what probably are some decent points about CTE being an ongoing thing and people not fully understanding exactly what it is because some people Pretend in the media that CTE is this black and white thing like you get this many concussions Then you have CTE that's not the case and we all agree that the NFL and football in general has done a good job In the past few years getting better about this. Yes, they've tried to improve in the last couple years It was probably like 10 years too late, which is good. Yeah. Oh, it was close 40 years I don't see I don't see like a

Collusive is collusive a word. Yeah, I don't see a collusive plot like where people are doing handshake deals We agree the federal government is telling yes that they're gonna outlaw football. That's yeah That's where Meryl Hodge lost us some of his points about CTE research not being Like finalized basically you would see it's something that we're still learning about in a science perspective I think that's has very good points and I think there's a lot of people what happens is people just want to like Believe what they've read for you know, maybe a blurb here and they basically knee-jerk to everything So they see Meryl Hodge's book and they're like, this is all garbage and the and we told them in the interview The title is garbage

You kind of hurt yourself because I'm sure there's some decent points in there that people should actually read You know what I thought was really interesting when when they started like publicizing the book a week and a half ago There was like there was a plot There was like an effort of all the guys in the media that are like very chummy with the league office Yeah to help promote it immediately. It was weird plot on the other side. Yeah, stay well Mm-hmm, but either way, it's a good conversation. Yeah, it's good conversations Something we don't usually do but I thought it was interesting and I thought I think people will like it So before we get to that though, we have a couple more ads Peloton

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You know, I got a son who started playing football. He started playing at age seven. He's a quarterback at BYU But the headlines I would see it's probably no different than anybody listening to This podcast you guys you see something in the paper and you're like Something doesn't make sense. I don't get it, you know, and then I thought you know what I do have access To some of the greatest minds in the world in the neuropathology world. So I went on a quest I went across this country up in Canada and I asked that same question, you know, I first started out with Tell me something. What is CTE? So I understand it and here's what and this probably Sparked the book more than anything is when I kept hearing this from the experts

It is a pattern. We don't know what causes it and we don't know what it causes We have cases where people have played football People who've played sports and people have not played sports and not had concussions and not had history ahead trauma And I like well, how can we only hear about the football ones, right or the ones in sports and I'm like Then I was like, okay, show me the papers. I read the science papers now I'm not in a million years. I think I was gonna be read sign papers You sat down and you read a scholarly peer-reviewed article. Amen and then I still I'm not smart enough completely understand it Because it's like Japanese and a lot of it and I don't read Japanese

That I went to the experts that said explain it to me now you say tell the truth tell me exactly what's going on Now once I did that now keep on we got a in the book. We that's why that's why I wrote the book So I'm like nobody that I know of has lived what I've lived Really has access to the people I've had access or you know are really gonna spend the time in going out and talking about So I'm like I have parents all the time come up to me. I'm scared of death. I don't want my son to you know More daughter, you know get a concussion and I was like, you know what we have hysteria is outrun the facts If I wrote a book and really simplified it and explained it a little truth of science

my life has been woven in In some way or another in this entire journey from Mike Webster was my roommate Julian bells and dr. Maroon were the neuropathologist on staff in Pittsburgh. They created Cognitive testing in 1991 Julian bells. I mean, excuse me Maroon and dr. Lovell Yeah, so they started in cognitive testing before anybody in professional sports is even thinking about Anything I was the first group of players to be a part of that. Okay, so First player in NFL history to be retired because of that tool Yeah, first player to go to Congress in 2008 and say hey listen, we're doing stuff for the NFL

We're doing stuff for the NCAA 99% of our athletes Are 8 to 18 and we have no protocol there That's why I really challenged Congress could we get an established protocol to help all sports to give them some direction because the one area of Concern I'll keep mine in 94 and 2008 when I went there was Getting the kids out of the environment after they had a concussion Mm-hmm, and then not letting them return to play like if we just did that protocol We create a better safer environment

So you're in for that so you're in for the absolute cuz I think there's I think people get a little lost in The whole discussion because I do think everything that the NFL has done and all levels of football has been good for football in terms of Making sure there's concussion tests making sure that if you have a concussion You can't get back on the field until you pass protocol because you your career you I mean you were basically your career stopped Because you had a concussion test over the phone, right? Right? Well, this is what happened to me. Keep mine. I'm in Pittsburgh in 1991 I'm doing I'm it's not even mandatory. Keep in mind in 1991 Chuck Noel challenges draw This is what happens in the history of it Bobby Brister. I've had a concussion the week before okay Joe looks at him on a Friday Joe maroon neuropathologist for the Steelers

It's on staff He comes to Chuck Noel and he said, you know, I don't like what I saw On his Friday practice and he tells Chuck he was I don't know if he should play so Chuck's like Joe He was fine all week to me You can't come in here and objectively say he can't play we need objective information and subjective information Get us something so that inspires cognitive testing Joe maroon. Dr. Love will decide let's create a test for cognitive testing in 91 they present it to the team. You don't have to take it. It's not mandatory They actually give you it's voluntary and when they came to me to have me take the test

I remember John Norrig who's still there the athletic trainer there. He walked me all the way out the car It's in the off-season. I just got done working out I don't want to spend two hours with a cognitive test because it was a pencil test at that time And I said I turned to him. I got the car. I said John. I wear a helmet Why do I need to do this and now I only say that because it tells you of the Understanding or the ignorance. Have you want to look at it in 91? Yep Well, he goes well, this could also tell you what kind of if you're the smartest player on the team, okay? Well, I was like, all right, I'll take it right so I go back. I take the test. I do it for a couple years

I've never had a concussion, but then I go to Chicago Now I have a concussion on a Monday night. Derek Thomas hits me from the side. I'll do it. Um, it could do it Two things I did the only actual thing I remembered is that I remember I'd never been an earthquake before But I thought I was in an earthquake because it was just the earth was shaking. I couldn't get my balance I couldn't get up. I remember Tim Worley who was my teammate at the time in Chicago He can run run over to me. This is all I remember for the like almost the next eight hours really He looked at me. He's like, oh man. That's all I remember him saying well next day I know I actually got up to the got up and went back to the huddle played two more plays

But when I came to the sideline, they started talking to me and obviously I wasn't responding the right manner So they pulled me out take me to the Dot the hospital to do an MRI to make sure wasn't and he hadn't had any bleeding before I flew back to pits I mean to Chicago now here's where the disconnect kind of happened and now it's 1994 So in Pittsburgh you have cognitive testing going on You have a neurologist on staff Chicago didn't have cognitive testing and they didn't even have a neurologist on staff The medical practitioner the md there the team doctor who had looked at me on the sideline and canta city

Uh cleared me over the phone. So I called him five days later And he said how do you feel and I remember he asked how I feel I remember I had a headache I didn't feel all that great, but it's 1994 nothing has been told to me We don't know what we know today and I said I feel fine. So he said, all right, you can play Okay I go back in start practicing and I never ever felt right five weeks later I take a similar blow against the Buffalo Bills. They take me to the locker room. I go to cardiac arrest I'm in intensive care for a few days

And my career is over Now is over those weeks of time of thinking like how can one team Be doing cognitive testing and have neurologists on staff And another team be that disconnected in the national football league right was really the thought process now This is not slinging mud at the chicago bears because keep in mind the next year it'd be cognitive testing becomes mandatory Yeah, so they took advanced steps Right away to make that environment better and neurologists became on staff. So they changed that they improved that But um, so many people want to go back

They use the information we have today and they want to sling mud In what happened in 94 the one p the one area I could sling mud I didn't be furious at Is the chicago bears? We're not up to speed with the pittsburgh steers. Mm-hmm. What good is that going to do me? Right, probably that and it's not going to help in you think it's not going to help the sport grow It's not going to help the environment become better It's not going to help been better for my environment for my son when he enters youth football Which is when I got excited when he started wanted to play in 2003. I wasn't excited. He wanted to play I was excited that like, you know what we're going to establish a head trauma protocol in youth sports

Okay So yeah, you bring up an interesting point because you were you know one of the first guys to be retired for You know concussion like symptoms or you know prolonged head injuries things like that And now you're writing a book and it's a pretty it's a strong title for the book It's called brainwash the bad science behind cte and the plot to destroy football So, um, I mean is there really a plot to destroy football? Well, it's a little that I'm asked that a lot. Um, I don't think there's any question there is When you think about okay, how many

How many youth football program? I mean how how many sports do you know? Um, or have A lot of our lobby in what states or many sports Do you know whether there's legislation to try to ban a particular sport tackle football? What do you know of any other sport? I think the the piece of legislation? I've seen at least have focused mostly on you know up to 10th grade or so So banning tackle football for kids before they're you know 15 16 years old Um, and I guess it's more about the you know, it's yeah, the concussions are very bad But also like the uh the repetitive head contact on a kid who's like 12 13 14 years old

I can see why you might have some sort of legislation I know in rugby I I only use that as a good book because I played it for about 10 years But there are rules for like for kids rugby growing up like you can't you know, you can't Everyone's got to wear a scrum cap You try to minimize some of the tackling until the kid's brain reaches a certain age So I have heard of other sports that kind of take those steps And to me I get I don't know from what I've seen it seems just like okay We're going to be more cautious with kids who are younger until they've reached know the age of 16 17 18

Um, but who so there's state legislators. Do you think that they're there's like a coordinated effort? Well That's exactly why I wrote the book right there because that explains really the depths of it But you know, you got faces of ct that are kind of leading the charge in california. There'd be one group We explained that in the book actually, you know, all of the things that are going on You said something that was was interesting to me and that's probably where I got the title brainwashed You just used it as if it's common knowledge. You actually used it as if it's scientific You use the word subconcussion Okay, they haven't even gone through the proper science steps to qualify that as science

They don't you like and here's how I can explain that Tell me what a subconcussion hit is subconcussive hit is uh blow to the brain that does not cause a concussion Okay, let me ask you this just stay right there. Um, how do you register that or measure that? It's tough It's tough because obviously it's just like it in my opinion and obviously I'm not a scientist But if I if I touch big cat in the arm like that, how yes, he's a pussy so it hurts him a lot But most people wouldn't hurt that much But you know, then I hit harder and harder and gradually if I hit hard enough there's a bruise Um, so I guess subconcussive. It's a big spectrum, right? If I just tap my head

That's probably not going to cause any sort of damage. How do you know that? I don't I don't I know that that that's that's my point is if you went in to talk to which I did I went to the experts because I asked that I go. Okay. Listen the subconcussive thing is very confusing to me What is that? There I'll look at me in the light and we don't know he doesn't matter who you talk to you'll get a different opinion Here's a subconcussive hit is so um unknown if you jumped on a trampoline Subconcuss if you had a pillow fight, let's say you just were a kid You wanted to play tackle football in the backyard. Yeah subconcussive hits if you went on a roller coaster ride

Theme park There's no boundaries to it because it's not scientific and so the point is When you don't do the steps of science. So here's another thing I did I said, okay What are the steps for science that you have to do to get it scientific when you read the science papers? In fact, there's so many science papers that talk about the abuse of that word how it's misleading They've done inappropriate research to even come up with it. You're like, well, how did they use it in the public arena then? So so I actually so I I'm kind of caught in the middle here because I actually think

Uh, the title is doing your disservice because I I kind of agree with pft the plot word I don't think there's a plot But I actually do agree with you if you look into it It has become a little bit of an accepted use of oh my head hurts. I played football I have cte like you see lance briggs said he has the symptoms of cte Well, that's it's impossible to find out if you have cte while you're living And the science has not caught up to it And I do think there is a part of the media has gotten ahead of the scientific protocol because you see a lot of there's no

There's a lot of coming out from one lab. There's not a lot of You know research that's going on that everyone has come to an agreement on stuff So I understand that part what I what I don't understand is so I guess the the point of the book is it to Basically say cte is not real because I do think cte is real I just think that there is there are problems with how the media has portrayed it You nailed it, but remember what I said in the very first very beginning Every neuropathology I talked to it and it bears repeating we could repeat it over over again because every time I say it Every troll out there in america he goes. Oh, you don't believe the cte. You say it doesn't exist

That's the first thing I confirmed It's a pattern they have discovered and they don't know what causes it Every one of them. Yeah, then this is the experts. I've went from here to canada. What is it? It's a pattern. We don't know what right the science is still very young So to your um to your credit from your your perspective. You are clearly right The science is still here observing and the media is out here Right has decided that if you get x amount of concussions you have ct, which is not even close to true That's not true. I think exactly right it's pretty accepted that it varies from person

like what caused the cte and one person might not cause another person and if you look I think where There's really been kind of a Miss the narrative has been misconstrued a little bit because they have that study from was a bu Uh that said, you know out of the 19 brains that we've studied or however many was 110 out of 111 all showed Examples of cte and what gets lost in that is yes. Well, these were people that you know thought that they had symptoms of cte So they donate to well and also there's varying levels like some of them might have Alzheimer's some of there's there's varying levels There has not been an official

Like this is exactly what cte is and I think that's where the science Still is growing and I think people are trying to figure it out. So my other question to you is like The the my biggest problem with how this and I like I said, I don't think it's a plot So I think if I can be totally honest with you I think you did yourself a little bit of service with the title because the knee jerk reaction on twitter and everywhere It's going to be meryl hodge is a kook But that I do think you make some some, you know Salient points that people are just refusing to acknowledge

And the biggest thing to me is with the way the media has portrayed cte The scariest thing in my mind is players the suicide rate going up and with players which has happened since 2009 And the biggest problem to me is guys are self-diagnosing cte when we don't even know how to diagnose it ourselves in living human beings So a guy maybe gets you know, isn't sleeping well. Oh, well, I got cte And so that's the scary part to me where the media has kind of spun it a little out of control And you got to trust more of the science behind it and and let them figure out what it's it's no different than like You know when polio gets a vaccination like the science takes a while to catch up They have to figure out what's going on

You know, you said something that you know, I think the hysteria of cte I mean that has driven more people. I mean, you're right. They're self-diagnosing It's tipping people over the edge and and that's why I think it is so harmful. You did say something about suicide I think it's really important You need to read that book from that perspective because you would be surprised how suicide rates in as far as nfl players For nfl players it is actually so low. Right, but it has gone up But yes, it is low actually Actually, dr comes we did a lot of stuff on that and actually I have a website brainwashbook.com that we have all the science papers

So this is not just read the book, you know, we help you understand it We would like to give you a true perspective because here's the one thing that is universal. Nobody can argue We're all using the same science papers Now how some people can take what is said in the science papers and keep in mind There's a lot of those patient papers to say caution This test this work cannot be done to draw any conclusions or draw any policies And those same people who wrote it are the same people trying to change policy and say the disease is at some skyrocketed rate that Not surprised if every football player has it after you just wrote the article in the nut and it says don't do that

That to me is a real abuse of the Hippocratic old It's a it's an abuse of science work It sets science back and then you could not be more right where the the media is ahead of the hysteria But if you read the book and I listen If you if you read the book, I I'm telling you this you Regardless of what your thoughts are it I'm not trying to change your mind actually I just want you to open up your mind because it will help you understand where we really are Versus where you're here and we are and here's what it does. I hope they don't empower you

It'll not you won't be scared and it'll help you make whatever choice you want to make for your family or yourself as far as being active in playing sports So from everybody that you spoke with there's obviously a wide variety of opinions out there about how much head contact is unsafe How much is safe? What's okay at what age? Um, what what conclusions have you reached personally about okay? When when do you think it's safe for uh for kids to start playing tackle football? Well, I've used my own experience my own son Um, and here's where we have youth football. I think people need to understand is we have a lot of options now that we didn't have When I played um, I don't know if you guys played youth football

I bet you probably didn't have as many options that are available today Flag tackle flex, you know and and how we've modified tackle when I was coaching youth football was Adam and about listen, we don't need a big 100 yard football field We just don't I mean from like ages seven to 11 It's just let's use split the field up do 40 or if you have a really good punter though Well, we didn't do special teams. Okay, so nice. Anyway, so there's a whole gamut to how the environment of youth football is just So much better. I'm going to use my own experience. Um, especially as a coach

So I started coaching my son in 2003. So the first thing we only practiced two days a week We only had one live session once every two weeks for 15 minutes And it was a truly football environment where we didn't have You see that Clip on ESPN those moronic parents lining kids up and running straight at them. Did you ever play football? Yeah, who just runs right at each other if you got the ball the last thing I'm doing if you're trying to attack me run right at you Right, Michael. I'll start. Um There you go

So my point is that we created good football tackling Environments that are about football not some stupid drill that just is ridiculous And if it's in your youth football program, I'll be the first one to get the kids out of it Don't be a part of that environment in almost a decade coaching youth football I never had a concussion practice. Um, our contact, uh, we got 52 weeks in a year Okay, we practiced for our season was 10 weeks. Yeah, okay It wasn't like we practiced for 52 weeks out here We had two practices a week and um, I had in my

By time kids came became 13 or 14 when they could now They go from puberty Which is the age when people are selecting when you should play tackle football I'm like, have you ever coached that game because something happens about that right kids go from 105 to 165 So why is it okay at age 14 to start playing tackle when a bigger stronger impacts when the brain's not fully developed age 24 25 So why is it less important at 14 than this from 7 to 11? Now I'll tell you what some of the neuropathologists say we can give that to another time But my point is this I had two concussions in nearly a decade and they were during the game and what happened to those kids

I removed them. They didn't play the next week My rule was my rule and that didn't change. I didn't have any backing as far as a protocol from government or, um, USA football it was my own belief based on what I'd learned from other neuropathologists anymore And you know who was always the one that came to me on the week that the kids couldn't play And wanted them to play dad mom Exactly. I was and I think oh, he feels so good. He's running around. He looks good. He's happy. He's smiling like that's beautiful It's exactly what I want to hear. That's great for us. Can you play? No He's not playing right you should

A rule is a rule these kids don't argue it right these kids know from day one. We already talked about right And that's a 2003 and then what we are today, right? Yeah, um, someone else needs this studio, but this has been fun We'll tell them to wait. Yeah, you guys are the man Merrill hodge Like I said, I actually I agree with a lot of things you said. I think the title might have done you a little disservice Give me a favor. Maybe let me promise you you'll read it. Yeah, and then I'm gonna hold them in We'll come back because the map word makes when I think I'll be honest with you I think people they see the plot word and they're like, yo, this guy's crazy. I don't think you're crazy

I think a lot of the things you're saying are right and people get hysterical and they do need jerk reactions I do need your reactions all the time They see it on twitter and they're like man, Merrill hodge is fucking off the reservation But there's off the reservation. There's some good discussion to be had I definitely think that there's good discussion to be had and like, you know, you guys do a good job of starting it So read the book. I'll come back. I love it. Let's do it. I love it. What's up with the ties real quick Oh, yeah, you know what teaches how to do a tie. We got two. Why do you have the small ties? Why do listen? It was just it just happened to be the brand I had today. Can you teach me how to do this?

Okay, so the Merrill hodge short tie So so we we come we come over how far up should I have here? Let's do this. I'm just gonna take my Listen, let's do it together. Now. We don't have a mirror here. So we're gonna We're gonna rub that okay. Okay. We want to get it about long. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're way off here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Okay. Okay. Now we go across here. Yep. Got that. Let's pinch it tight here. Yep. Okay. I gotta pinch Now let's bring it on. Let's keep it tight here another pinch. Okay when we come up And over and through and down

Okay, let's be tight here. Okay. Let's come across. All right. Wait. Yeah This is not how I want to go across. Hang on. I think I actually ended up with a pretty good Merrill hodge He's so far ahead of me. Now we're back. We're up and we're through now. We're back. How's that? We're throw that right there. That looks exactly like When I went to pass um sacrament and sunday my when I was eight years old. That's exactly how that time is A couple football guys. Perfect play. I love it That's good. All right. Merrill hodge. Thank you so much. Good stuff, man. Appreciate it That interview with Merrill hodge was brought to you by movement now

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True fans follow pro college golf tennis and international sports among others Don't say you're a true sports fan if you're not fixated tonight on alabama vs lsu Doesn't make you a bad person if you don't give a shit. Mm-hmm. Nice little swear there at the end. Yeah, that was good Okay, I have a take hit me Everyone hated him for this you agree I don't think it's I think he obviously went a little little too hard But the bones of this argument are kind of right. Mm-hmm. Do you do you not agree? Uh, yeah But the only problem I had with it is he completely undermines his own point when he was saying true fans follow pro college golf tennis and international sports

He lists a bunch of other things that you could be paying attention to instead of alabama lsu Which would also make you a true sports fan, but then again It doesn't make you a true sports fan if you don't give a shit It's like it's a it's a circular argument You have to just you have to just follow all sports all the time But there is something to be said for like there are people who I think Are fans of their teams only and then there are people who are fans of sports in general I think that's the better argument. I consider myself a fan of sports and like a good sports of sporting event

I don't care what level it's at if you put it in front of me in a t on a tv And if I could gamble on it, maybe a little I will probably watch yeah You're Homer Simpson holding the pennant that says tv sports on it. Right. Yes. So am I yeah, I love sports So I kind of get what he's saying So but he's he's also because this is what happens now with twitter too is like Old guy says something Everyone kneejurks to it and says wow what an idiot when yeah, it wasn't the smartest tweet And there was like he kind of doesn't make a lot of sense

But I understand his greater point and that point I agree Wouldn't it make you a better sports fan if you were watching like some division 1 AA football game that you care more about True just for the purity of the game. Yeah, no scholarships. I think bob ryan's also no free bux. We know saving That's right. Bob's chargers bob ryan saw What's his name peter gammons start to tweet and he's like I got to get in on that I can't let Pete steal my show here the best though the best response came from Someone who who responded bob ryan's tweet said bob. I agree My adult son neil has been crying for hours because he hasn't been fed

But I won't even acknowledge him until all the college sports are concluded Thank you for giving us true sports fans the recognition we deserve and he responded Feed the kid then start educating him and then the guy who responded and miss any sports He can eat in the off season. That's a great point. It's a great point. It's a great point But see that's that's the problem bob you set up this like this whole argument And it's so easy to like come over the top and be a bigger sports fan, right exactly I'm watching sport so bob ryan not a true sports fan No, also, I think bob was just like speaking to his audience in new england because like I don't I don't mean to like pile on

You're anything Hank you've had a lot of success in your team sports So I give you a lot of credit there, but New england is not like a college sports market when it comes to football No, so he was basically like directing that at his followers being like I know a lot of you guys don't care about scc football But that just means you're not a true sports fan Also, the funniest part about this entire tweet is the game fucking sucked because alban was too good. Yeah As in terms of a sports watching event it actually ended up being terrible

I will say that uh that the fans in that stadium are true sports fans. Yes One dude was doing smelling salts just like in the first row and he was like your pft one. Yeah, he gave me a little too Yeah, jigsaw. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, and and lsu fans were there until the end Even though there was no chance that we're going to score. Yeah, wasn't it wasn't a stadium filled with mark lalbergs Also a little spin zone. It's gonna be nice Being able to go we're gonna come back to baton rouge And there's only one way to go and it's up because All we got to do is see one point scored by lsu and we had a better experience

That's true. We know what we need to come back for a game like tennessee. Yeah, just something where they can curb stomping Yeah, i'm i'm down for that. Okay, uh, we have way to stay relevant baseball. They announced gold gloves. Cool Good job. This is a sunday night Gold glove is the dumbest reward possible and i'm not saying that just because hobby bias didn't win one he should have It's still the dumbest award. Why? Well, it's like who cares It's if you get it fielding. Yeah, it's one half of the game. I also. Yeah, but they also like I don't know Who votes on it? one

baseball writers of america Two I feel like if you get one gold glove you just end up getting gold gloves for life Yeah, they just basically default to you being like well that guy he got a gold glove like last year So let's just give it again. You remember derek jeter got like three gold gloves at the end of his career Yeah, he didn't have legs anymore. Great. Yeah, so I I don't know. I'm not a gold glove guy Again, not because hobby life. I've always I got and I still would have said this probably Thank you for clarifying that twice hobby bias want a gold glove comes back. Yeah, I I guess it's good for baseball Like they they really do spread things out

They have like the winter meetings that we have to hear all about I think we still need si young and shit Yeah, we haven't yeah, I don't think we got si young and and they don't they don't take into account playoff performance When determining si young right correct, but it comes out in like december correct. Okay, so everyone's like what? uh The also the other thing anthony rizzo and freddy freeman tied for nl First baseman gold glove. So what do they do? Do they cut it? They both want it? They're stupid. There are two trophies. I don't know. That's stupid. They've done co-MVPs in the NFL. I guess that's true Yeah, it is stupid to to divide a gold glove. Yeah, you know what they should do if you win a gold glove

Why do you like gold gloves Hank? I'm not. I'm just not like you guys are trying to bash gold Love. No, I'm not. I'm not. I think it's an important part of the game. I'm I agree with you Very important. I I think that not important enough for an award I think that the way that they've handled the award is a participation trophy. Yeah that you get for being Player in a big show up one player per position. There's well. No, that's not true two players per for first base in the nl They should make you play actually with like a yellow. There were three gold gloves given out for first base That's an ale and two nl's. That's all right. Okay. So you're cool with everyone getting one. No

If it's a tie it's a tie You should just pick one guy that sucks and just not give him a gold glove. Yeah, everybody Yeah, for all nine positions, they give the award to uh, what how many teams has picked up now 30 They give them a knobby. Yeah, they give them a knob. Yeah, they give them a knobber And that's what we call the the defensive player of the year. I like that the anti defensive player of the year It's the worst defensive knob. Uh, all right. We have Hank hot in the streets. What do you got for a sink? Uh, no, no no drip. Oh, it's drip. Is it drip? No, no Hank, give us some of your hey, Hank, give us some of your mind drip right now

You're not allowed to drip during from your penis during the month of november No, not november's is that what you said? Yeah, it's hot in streets. So explain this You it's a group thing All men all men and women who across the world Where did this start it started on like the nofap reddit thing where the guys are like, oh man I haven't come for 85 days and it's totally normal because I just come into this Thread and talk to you guys every day. No, I'm pretty sure it goes back centuries. It started in like Greece or Rome back in the day No, not november started in ancient Greece

Play-doh. Yeah, play-doh started it. Okay. So, um, Hank, are you gonna do it? Of course. Wait. So does this mean no sex? Yeah, it's no not. Oh, no, you can have sex. You just can't nut. Yeah Are you sure? Mm-hmm. Or is this the way like for for a bunch of guys who like don't have sex to be like, hey I would be nutting but november so i'm abstaining from sex guys All these hot girls you're gonna have to wait till december rolls around I think it's a bunch of dudes that aren't having sex and they're like, you know, what's cool not having sex Yeah, isn't it guys, right? Am I right? This is let's hear it for not fucking who does this

Everyone in the streets you guys are asking what's hot in the streets. I'm telling you are there any is there anyone with their face? To it like who's the face? Twitter someone tweet me and say they're actually no nutting. It's tim t bow There's no way you are nutting. There's something wrong with you But there's no way there's a person with a real name and real face standing up and being like donald trump This is what he's campaigning on no not november. Yeah, actually Isn't that that jordan peterson guy? Is it so there are a few people online that i've gone out of my way not to learn about because It just seems pointless and idiotic to get like some idiots a lot of attention. That's the wool guy. And I think

Yeah, the wool guy for me. I just keep tweeting about it. I'm like, I don't know who this is I'm not gonna. I'm pretty sure jordan peterson is a no nut guy I think he's like we don't touch her real men don't touch our penises. Okay. No, not november Oh, you're oh, you're into it. Of course not in you love gold gloves That actually works. You love gold gloves and hate sex. You would be perfect Yeah, they should actually let you vote. They just let you vote on the golden glove Yeah, you just got you just got a login for fan graphs. Yeah, so good job So hank, you just don't touch your dick big cat's not gonna touch his butthole anymore. Mm-hmm. No, it's pinky

We're clean learning learning learning how to survive without a pinky. All right. Last up. We have a stay woke pft do it All right. Yeah, so we we were talking on friday And I think that we need to discuss further and openly because we've stumbled on to something that I think is actually Based in reality now some of my stay wokes I'm interested in and they sound good and they're appealing to me But this one is one. I think there's some meat behind so um lebron james

Playing for the lakers. He's going to have to figure out ways to get Uh superstars to join that team in a league with salary cap issues and constraints Cap is going up the cap is going up. That's true and it already went up and it went up and it's going to go up It's going to continue to go up. Mm-hmm But he's also producing and starring and I think he's executive producer too of space jam two If you wanted to get a superstar athlete like maybe say a kevin durant To join your team and maybe you don't have cap room to get all the pieces in place Couldn't you just offer him a role in space jam two?

And through your production company pay him. I don't know 30 million dollars a year kevin durant takes the veteran minimum on the books Now I took it a step further than that Because this movie has been delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed It's I don't know if it's ever going to be made. In fact, I'm not sure that it's a real movie Yep Now i'm not saying that it's the same thing as rescuing a bunch of americans Uh from a hostage situation like in the movie argo, but what I am saying is that it works exactly the same

Exactly. He's got a fake movie fall the checks all the money. He's the one that's controlling all the checks in there So like he has access to a Presumably unlimited budget. Yep, basically 500 million dollars. Whatever you want to call it. It's jerry brockheimer joint Exactly. And so he's able to get whoever he wants through his fake little organization setup I think there is Everything you just said makes way too much sense. Mm-hmm way too much sense. You tell me if space jam comes out If space jam two comes out in theaters I'll be the first to eat my hat didn't raymond green go on the barbershop show

Hmm. I don't know how much he got paid for that. Interesting. Hmm unlimited. That's right. He's got a number of production Yeah, just show. Hey, you just got to show up and sit in this barbershop chair and uh Also play power forward for the los angeles lakers and we'll give you 100 million dollars in bitcoin. Hmm interesting You know who hasn't been on that show yet is luke walton. Huh? He's a voter confidence. So yeah, he's fine. He's totally fine. Lebron has been known whenever he doesn't like a coach He just says I love you coach. This guy's good. And then they get my guy and they get taken out back Little something something. Uh, I think you're right. And I think someone maybe with more resources than us Should look into it. We'd be nice if we knew hang on

It would be nice if we knew an la a struggling la screenwriter who we might have seen in baton rouge this weekend Or if we knew a high-profile la hollywood superstar that we just became best friends with this past weekend Oh Odell Someone who might uh have an in with several NBA players Oh, or what if our boss mark you mark actually uh part of the entire movie industry? Well, that's what I was going to say like is churnin involved at all in space jam, too Because are we involved? Are we complicit? We might be oh fuck

If I just want to say if churnin's involved, I'm sure it's going to be a great film It's going to be a great film and there's no way there's anything wrong any wrong doing Totally about what's going to be a great film in the lakers all the success in the world's in the brown Okay, that's our show. We'll see everyone Wednesday. We have a big guest Who legend there hall of fame hall of fame guest you're gonna say it's a hall of famer No, he's in the hall of fame. Oh in the hall of fame. Oh

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