Pardon My Take - RG3 In Studio, Lions Take Down Packers, Week 14 Picks And Preview And Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

Lions take down the Packers in TNF and Dan Campbell is addicted to doing psycho shit (00:00:00-.00:20:49) Thank you to all the fans after Spotify wrapped came out. Week 14 picks and preview for every game, Kirk Cousins revenge, Rams back against the wall, and whats the most depressing game of the week (00:20:49-01:24:39). RG3 joins us in studio and Big Cat admits he was wrong about the Bears, we talk rookie quarterbacks, winning the Heisman, leaving ESPN, the famous croissant picture and tons more (01:24:39-02:38:11). We finish with fyre fest of the week and lottery ball drama continues (02:38:11-02:58:24).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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I think Dan Campbell has an addiction and his addiction is doing the craziest fucking shit at every turn. He's addicted to being a psychopath. He is he's insane. Dan Campbell is insane and this was a rare instance where like it worked at the end and I still think it was fucking crazy. Yeah no he did two things that it was it not only that, it was going for it on his own 30. In what was it, the third quarter? He just wants, I don't think he fully feels alive unless he's doing something that everyone in the stadium's

like, no, what are you doing, stop, please stop. What did he do? He went for it. So first of all, it was Lions win, 34-31 34 31 great great game. Probably one of the best games Thursday night games we've had. It was 45 seconds left fourth and inches on the 19 yard line or 20 yard line wherever it was and going in going in and Dan Campbell could have kicked the field goal and given the Packers maybe 40 seconds left. Dan Campbell could have kicked the field goal and given the Packers maybe 40 seconds left. Instead, he went forward on fourth down to get that extra time off the clock and be able to end the game without the Packers getting the ball back. But he went forward on fourth down after getting stuffed on third down.

And if you don't get it there, you could lose in regulation. It's going to overtime. You could just kick the field goal 40 seconds left, but no, no, no. Dan Campbell's like, fuck it. I'm a psycho. I'm basically, I'm going to make sure they never get the ball back. I'm going for this on fourth down. The risk reward was insane in that because what he ended up doing was he got the first down and then he just proceeded to take 40 seconds off the clock and kick the field goal with no time left. So he defeated, he defeated Matt LaFleur take 40 seconds off the clock and kick the field goal with no time left.

So he defeated, he defeated Matt LaFleur and he also defeated the clock. Yeah. He defeated time tonight. He's one and oh against time. Yeah. And it was, uh, we were having the debate after the game. Uh, I, I mean, I would have just kicked the field goal, but I'm not Dan Campbell. But the one thing I've always said about Dan Campbell is he's consistently psycho and

You know Stephen Che was sitting next to me He's like you they're gonna lose a game like that's gonna cost them is like yeah, it might but they did a they They went for it on Fort down on their own 31 in the third quarter that did not work And so I feel like Dan Campbell's got this algorithm in his head this big balls algorithm That's like if we just go go forward enough on fourth down, enough of them will go our way and we'll come out winners. He feels like tin cup. If he was a football coach, just like constantly challenging, like staring death in the face repeatedly when he knows that he shouldn't.

Right. He probably knows it's a problem too. Yeah. After the game, after the adrenaline rush wears off, have you ever done anything really stupid in your life? And you got away with it a lot of a lot of shit You know that feeling that you get when like you wake up the next morning. You're like Fuck that was dangerous. Yeah, I could have died. I shouldn't have done that Yeah, and then later on in life you think back to how dumb you were as a kid and you get scared all over again Yeah, what you did Dan Campbell wakes up after game days, and he's like oh fuck. I did it again

Oh, man, but it worked out that you guys aren't even mentioning that Jerry Guff's Dan Campbell wakes up after game days and he's like, oh fuck I did it again. Oh man But it worked out that you guys aren't even mentioning that Jared Goff's tripped on the play Yeah, how able to get the I don't know great hand like it was an unbelievable handoff great handoff, but he like That the it was so close to just blowing up in his face And this double blew Max's mind. Max is double mad right now because one, obviously the Packers, they lost. Max was hoping that they were gonna win. But then two, he hears us talk about Dan Campbell

and all his brain translates it into is if this was Nick Sirianni, you guys would make 45 minutes out of what a turkey is on the podcast. But that's the thing. Dan Campbell is consistently crazy. So is Nick Sirianni. No. He's not Nick Sirianni does dumb shit all the time It was just in the beginning of the year. None of it was working. That's a good point next year I doesn't see that he does Dan Campbell shit. I know so did it just wasn't working Thank you. That's the only difference. Thank you

Well, there's a lot of aggressive stuff that is borderline dumb. So does Nick Sirianni! This was one example where, no, Nick Sirianni does a lot of dumb dumb stuff. This was one example where Dan Campbell did something that was dumb. This was doy doy! If he, if Jared Goff slips there and falls down and isn't able to get, and he isn't able to get that hand off, you are talking about how much of a fucking idiot he is right now. We all, we kind of are right now yeah I mean he but again but there's no like no but they won he's crazy he's psycho but again he just can see he is

consistent he has a way of doing it and he's always going to put Dan Campbell's basically driving a car with his foot on the gas to the floor at all time and the the gas meter is like Right on empty. Yeah, he's like I think we can make it. Yeah past this exit He's just always like we're never gonna take our foot off the gas and I I think that that's why it works I think that's why they have 11 would they what that was our 11 straight win They're 12 and 1 and what's crazy is it was 5th, three years ago that they got their first one of the season. Yeah.

Under Dan Campbell, the Lions beat the Vikings with that walk off touchdown. And now they have now they're 12th win. Completely flipped it. I like 14. I want to address Max's point though, Max, if that happened to the Eagles and it Nick Serrani makes a crazy, crazy play call on fourth down, he's rolling the dice going for it. And Jalen Hurts,ts foot gets stepped on do you think Jalen Hurts can make a game-winning

play in a Super Bowl after you get stepped on? If if... Or would the pass land 25 yards short? If you had to get stepped on and throw a 75-yard pass I don't think Jared Goff would have been able to do that. Make the play. I just said make the play. Hand the ball off? Yes. Make the play make the game-winning play You're comparing a a once in a million Hail Mary to a handoff just saying that's what you're doing Jared Goff got it done. You're doing right now. He gets it done a Hail Mary to a handoff. It's listen

I I don't agree with going for it there. But again, that's just what he does listen, I don't agree with going for it there. But again, that's just what he does. He's a psycho and it might, the guys love it and they fight for him and the lions are the best team in football right now. And max, here's what I should say. All right. Well, one thing about the Packers, the Packers, I think are still there. I still have them in my problem territory where they, I think they could make a run in the playoffs. They can't have what happened tonight where Jordan Love had a slow start. And it felt like, you know, I know that they were,

you blinked and then the third quarter they were up, but they were down 10 in the first half and it just didn't feel like they had any rhythm besides that deep ball. So they gotta get like started a little faster, especially in a playoff game. But so the Packers I think are are fine and they'll make a or fine by the way of like I am very nervous about them the Lions though max the Lions are gonna lose another game

Yeah, but it doesn't matter Like the Bills next week's basically a buy for them them losing that game Oh because the indivision? Because it's... But then they gotta play the Niners, the Bears, the Niners, and the Vikings. They need, yes, one of those... and even the Niners, I don't know if that gets it done. It needs to be... Max is obviously nervous because he wants the one seed very badly.

And it's a big one seed. It's a huge one seed. Like going to Detroit, it's tough. It's a massive one seed. I know, it's not even going to Detroit, it's tough. It's a massive one seed. I know, it's not even going to, it's them coming to Philly. Yeah, yeah. That's it. That's it.

They don't win that game in Philly. Not with the, not with the link. They don't win that game. The Lions are so good though. Yeah. They're so good. And Tim Patrick. And all their big games are at home.

No, they have to go play at the Bears and at the Niners. But the Niners... Max at the end of the game was on his phone screaming, all their games are at home! All their games are at home! They're like, they're only playing home games. All their games are at home! That was me deflecting, that was me being mad. It's okay, yeah, you can be mad.

Wait, so they have big games that are on the road? They're division games. They have the Bills at home next week, that's what. That's you can be bad. So they have big games that are on the road their division games They have the bills at home next week. That's what that's what really set it off this year to play home again The scariest thing about the Lions too is just everyone gets involved. They had they had Six guys have five or more catches tonight. Mm-hmm, and it's just every single guy contributes and And by the way, Josh Jacobs, three touchdowns. He was awesome. Yeah. If you're the Packers, you're obviously upset that you lost this game. You're very upset because it was, it was winnable, but you also know that like

you can beat the lions. It's not, you can beat the line your own two against them, but you can beat them. Maybe beatable. Maybe tough to beat a team three times. Do you think the Packers could beat the Lions in Philly? Yes. I think definitely. Yes. If it was for the one seed? Yeah.

For the one seed. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't paying attention. I'm looking at their away games right now. It's crazy. What's so crazy? I mean, it's just bullshit. How many are there?

Less. Uneven. So they have less road games than home games I have a question for you big cat does Matt LaFleur have an anger problem? what was he angry about? he's been very angry the last month or so

we almost fought a fan before the game I have a side on this Dyer Carragher Matt LaFleur just told a Lions fan on the field who was taunting in his face to shut the fuck up I'm on Matt LaFleur just told a Lions fan on the field who was taunting in his face to shut the fuck up I'm on Matt LaFleur side the guy was out there to do the big flag I don't think you should be yelling at a NFL coach when you're doing the big flag. Yeah, just respect America I also don't know I kind of like Matt before was fired up

I also don't think that this reporter should have reported on that. Yeah Like keep that to yourself. Yeah, keep it to yourself your narc, but what was he mad about? He was mad the entire game He's mad all the time now. I don't know what it is, but he's mad Lefleur. He's mad Lefleur I think he probably I mean this was a very important game and it was a great game and I have one other note I had that's unfortunate we have stood strong in the don't don't try to retire Al Michaels. His energy was not there for a game of this caliber. This was a playoff game and it was he was calling touchdowns like they were like you know five yard outs in the first five minutes

of the game yeah but he can bounce back but it's just like this if if there was a time to bounce back it was this game maybe this was the game saving something for January this was the game is he have a game in general out I think they stopped no week 18 doesn't have any Thursday Night Football. It's kind of ironic that he's turned into a vegetable. Yeah, he is. It's crazy. It's crazy. I just, I needed more out of him. I needed more out of him. And I just feel like this was the time for him to, to really give us more. Yeah. It's okay. I I'm willing to forgive. I am too. I mean, I'm not,

listen, I still love the game and the announcer doesn't affect me that much Yeah, but I just don't want to use last season, but I don't want to I don't want to kick out Michaels out I don't yeah I don't want him to go out in a way that it's like, you know Look like if we keep going and it's like two three years from now and we're like damn what's going on? What was the over under on this game? I was 52 Like damn, what's going on? What was the over under on this game? I was 52.

That's smashed. Maybe that's why he kind of turned it down because the over hit and he already had it. And he already had it? Yeah, what are you looking at Max? I remember there was a streaming playoff game last year but it's Peacock not Amazon. It's on the cock yeah.

Yeah, that's what I got. You were worried that, oh you thought it was gonna be Amazon. I thought maybe they had a they had a Wild-card round game, but that's got it. I was thinking you're not gonna be in the wild-card round No, he's worried about al Michaels calling. Oh, yeah, and yes, we are With that attitude yes, you're right. Yeah, was that a home game that attitude yes Yes, Max Anything else from this game? I just love this game. It is just great.

I mean, I don't know. Like having a game of this caliber on a Thursday night was fucking awesome. So somehow somehow the Lions defense, I know statistically they didn't play well. They're the most injured defense ever. If you if you talk to a Lions fan. Yeah, I think they have 13 guys on injured reserve. I believe that includes offense, too, but they've got a lot of guys that are hurt. The defense didn't look they didn't look as bad as their numbers were. Right. That's what I'm saying. I guess you know what it is. It's when they hit you

the guys that are out there if they're in position to if they're in the right position and they're playing well as as a team they knock the fuck out of you they hit you hard but then they also give up like a lot of really really big easy plays Yeah, I'll tricks you into thinking that they're better than they are because when they make a tackle they make a fucking tackle Alim McNeil is very very important for their defense and he went out like was it six minutes into the game? Yeah, so I yeah, they'll maybe get I mean I think Anzaloni is coming back Get a little healthier, but yeah, the lines are, lines are just good. You get Aiden Hutchinson back for the Super Bowl, maybe.

Maybe, maybe. Um, I had one last thing. We didn't say it because we taped everything else earlier, but we did get the Spotify rap numbers and thank you to all the AWLs. It blows my mind every year. Yes. Crazy. Thank you very, very much.

All the people tweeting us, all the people hitting us on Instagram We don't take it for granted one bit at the end of the year I always think about it like fuck man We have the best job in the world luckiest guys in the world and it's like all these people spend all this time with Us and it's it's not lost on us at all No, there's so many podcasts out there that you could listen to. And as a podcast listener myself, you know you make that choice every single time. So thank you.

Thank you for making that choice. And we love you guys and appreciate you. Yeah, memes, you want to say anything to our fans? I love you. OK, nice. That was good. What about to us? You guys are cool, too.

Oh, OK. Thanks. And PFT. Oh. And I'm cool, too. Now this is, yeah, PFT's good. What about to us? You guys are cool, too. Oh, thanks. Oh And I'm cool sir now this yeah Alright, that was perfect. I said I've started a new tradition where I just hug memes every time I see him Yeah, and he just physically he's just like recoils. Yeah, he doesn't mean like touching. I don't like touching. Thank you guys No, yeah, love you guys It's Spotify Apparently Spotify fired a bunch of people and that's why the Spotify raps were were just bad in general

like it was crazy seeing our numbers, but the aesthetic Feeling of going through your own personal Spotify wrapped and even our part of my take Spotify wrapped wasn't the same And apparently just cuz Spotify like fired a bunch of people. Oh, shit. That's very well said. I don't know why I just said that. Yeah, it really is.

I don't know why I just said that. I don't know why I just said that. Thanks to the fans. I don't know why I said that. I don't know why I said that. You wanna take another shot at it? Yeah, I mean, I just get weird when I get emotional. I, you know, our fans are the best fans in the world.

We're not emotional guys. It's mind blowing that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, you know, listen and watch the show, know who we are. I forget that all the time I just think I'm saying stupid shit with my friends yeah it's just how it should always remain that's the beauty of the show is that we have never really thought that we're not just saying stupid shit with our friends max sorry Spotify I don't know why you did that. That was just like a fuck Spotify rant for no reason. That was so weird. Listen, I know you're very clear about something.

I'm also like, Spotify wrapped, drop the ball. Thank you to Spotify for carrying our podcast on their platform. Yes, keep pumping us, please. I just feel like Hank heard you say Spotify and you just stopped listening to everything else. Yeah. Just like, Spotify, that reminds me. Max. I was thinking it, I just shouldn't have said it Yeah, max instead of saying thank you to our fans. You have anything else to say about the line schedule

Also Apple music do something similar. Maybe that's maybe this is your chain Yeah encouraging people to thank you for listening to everyone who listens Apple music, too I think Apple music does Apple podcast does Apple podcast. Thank you. Everyone listen on Apple podcast Thank you. Any Google play Google play. Yeah. Watch. Yeah. I heart. Yeah. Amazon. I heart. Yep. Yep. Hell yeah. I think Google might have got rid of podcast. I think we're on. Fuck. No. No. No. Max. Anything. Last thing about the line schedule instead of saying thank you to the fans. The fans probably know how easy the lines they've just given them all of their hard games. I know I feel like they play only their division rivals only at home. For some reason I'm only paying attention

to divisional games at home. I don't even think that they played those road games earlier in the season. Oh man. All right. let's uh, let's kick it to ourselves We got week 14 preview. We've got RG 3 and then we've got some great firefests and a little lottery ball magic Okay before we get to the weekend preview we're brought to you by our friends at game time Football season is here. We can't wait to get out some games games this fall with the help of Game Time, the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. You know how much we love Game Time now with their brand new Game Time picks feature. They're making it even easier to get to a game. Game Time picks filters out the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats so you don't have to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. PFT, we're looking

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Broncos, Colts, Patriots, Commanders, Ravens, Texans. It has left us with, I would say, not the greatest groupings of games, but that usually is what gives us the most chaos. There's a couple good ones out there. There's a couple good ones, but you would agree there's also some ones that we'll go through quickly. Yeah, we can just talk about draft picks, right?

Right. Okay. So here's here's I have the I have them ranked in kind of order One of the first ones that I thought was compelling. I don't know this I think might be main TV Falcons at Vikings. Yep, Vikings is revenge game Kirk Cousins revenge games Vikings minus five and a half over under forty five and a half all in the DraftKings app is five and a half over under 45 and a half all in the DraftKings app. This is kind of do or die for the Falcons here because it feels like everything is trending in the wrong direction and now you go up against a Vikings defense. Brian Flores knows Kirk Cousins from last year. He's going to blitz the fuck out of him. And here's a stat for you. Kirk Cousins, when he gets sacked three plus times,

he is one in three straight up this year. And he is one in five straight up when getting sacked three plus times over the last two seasons. Gun to your head, do you think he gets sacked more than three times on Sunday? I think he gets sacked more than three times. So I think the Vikings are going to win. Also we talk about the in the hunt graphic a lot on this show because it comes out, you know, what two weeks ago, I think they debuted in the hunt. Yeah.

And how it can be like a very powerful narcotic. If you were a fan of a bad team that is still featured in the, in the hunt graphic, because it tricks you into rooting for your team, even though you should actually be hoping that they lose as many games. I'm not talking about like as the games are playing, you all become fans and you root for your team to win during the game. Yeah. But it makes you think, oh, we still have become fans and you root for your team to win during the game. Yeah. But it makes you think, oh, we still have a chance and you almost never have a chance.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the team that's lurking in the hunt. Yeah. They're like right there with the Falcons. If anything fucks up with the Falcons, the Bucs are ready to just take that division and run away with it. Yeah. The Falcons obviously have the tiebreaker because they beat them twice, but it is Definitely it feels like two teams going in the opposite direction

Right now we talked about it I think two or three weeks ago when I we were saying take the Bucs plus 400 to make the to win the NFC South Yeah, he's just looking at the schedules and looking at how the Bucs are playing getting healthier. Yeah, this could be Given the fact that the Bucs are playing the Raiders in the in the Vikings are playing the Falcon or the Falcons are playing getting healthier. Yeah, this could be given the fact that the Bucks are playing the Raiders and the Vikings are playing the Falcons or the Falcons are playing the Vikings. This could be the week that the Bucks are now in first in NFC South. Yeah. So Aaron Jones had a bad fumble last week. Yeah. And he's fixing it. He's trying. I don't think he's in Kevin O'Connell's doghouse. In fact, kind of the opposite. They kind of nurtured him this week. Kevin O'Connell kept saying like, I love Aaron. He's the best. Everybody loves Aaron. So what's the opposite of a doghouse? He's sleeping on the bed.

Sleeping on the bed. Yeah, sleeping under the covers. Sleeping under the covers on the bed. Yeah, he owns the bed now ultimate opposite of doghouse. Yeah. So Aaron Jones said to fix the fumbling remedy. Some guys carry around a football all week. And that teaches them not to fumble. He's been carrying around his children like footballs his arms all week to teaching himself not to fumble. He's been carrying around his children, like footballs, in his arms all week, teaching himself not to fumble.

High and tight. I like this strategy. Has he been breastfeeding? I don't know if he has, but it would mean that Aaron Jones has three generations of Joneses on his body at all times, because he wears his dad's ashes in a necklace around his neck.

That's a lot of Joneses. So a lot of Joneses. I like this strategy of carrying your kids around. I'd like to see how he does it though, because if it's a baby and it's reverse, I think that's even funnier where it's the asses to his chest. So the face is out, so he's carrying it around, the baby gets kind of like a good POV. You think he's palming his baby's face? No, I would think back. No, no, no, no. I'm saying he's he's got the he's got his hand on the on the baby's chest. Okay, got it. Yeah. So, so, so the baby can like look out and he's holding it high and tight. That'd be kind of cool. But then he's

exposing his baby's head, exposing the end of the football. He's carrying his baby like a little, you don't know if his baby can't slide. That's true. Yeah. We should give credit because sometimes we get caught in the trap of like, hey, this guy stinks, this guy stinks, Maddy Befuse is an idiot. Sometimes some of us get caught in that trap. Kevin O'Connell has been elite in one score games. So he is 24 and 9 straight up in one score games and it's the third best win percentage for any head coaching NFL

history Seven and one this year in one score games He's such an awesome coach and like that kind of is if you had to pick a stat for What makes a great coach it might be one score games because those are the games where like, you know Blowout wins blowout losses probably doesn't have a big factor. The coaching one score games when you have to make decisions late in the fourth quarter, that's the definition of a great coach. And Kevin O'Connell is that yeah. High scoring one score games. Yeah. Where do you stand in that? I think he's probably pretty good at it. And I mean, even the last

to me that they didn't give him, he was like doing a contract before the season and then they just stopped During the season as we'll figure it out later. I think next year would be his last season as a head coach for the Vikings I think it's more attractive like what more did he have to do? Leading to this point to make you feel if you're a Viking if you're the owner of the Vikings like this is our coach We want to lock him on went on expert mode and was like here. We'll make Sam Donald good Josh Dobbs Yeah, remember that never JJ McCarthy. They should have locked him up JJ McCarthy is gonna end up being the best quarterback for my draft class Well, that's just what's gonna end up happening after all this discussion The JJ McCarthy is somehow gonna be like the best player of all time

Is it gonna affect him at all that they play on artificial grass and so he can't properly ground himself before the games They'll probably put a patch which is a patch on yeah We can also plant a flag if you have yeah said if you come in there and beat him Yeah, but yeah I I like the Vikings in this game and I do think the Falcons are in deep deep trouble Especially because the way they lost that Chargers game their defense finally showed up and had a great game and Their offense completely let them down. I don't know I just I feel like it's slowly the air is coming out of the balloon for the Falcons.

And it is Kirk Cousins' revenge week, but talking to Kirk, he doesn't seem, well, he made it seem like he gets into like psycho Kirk mode. But I don't see a revenge game from Kirk. I see a turn the other cheek game from Kirk. Yeah, it sounded like when we did talk to him that it was the commander's game will be more of a revenge game. Yeah. And really, what does Kirk have to be upset about like a revenge game for paying me

hundreds of millions of dollars living an awesome life the fans loving me yeah yeah uh okay next up Browns and Steelers Steelers minus six and a half over under is 46 have you guys watched any of the hard knocks I saw clips of it I watched the first part of it the other night. Uh, I love Mike Tommen more than anyone, I think, in the NFL right now. It's crazy how awesome he is. He is just... he gets in front of a room, and you just get pumped up.

And then he was sitting watching tape. There was this clip where he was sitting watching tape. He's got his feet up on the desk. He's eaten chili cheese Fritos, which are elite. And he's just like, yeah, we got to we got to get physical with them. They got to he said some clip like he might this running back here for the Bengals. He doesn't know your name today, but he better know your name on Monday. And I was like, Yes, let's go. Yeah. Yeah, he's the best. I like all the coach speaks like when they get up in front of the team, they're like this,

this NFL schedule has been designed to crush you. Yeah. It's been designed to defeat you. And then I was it Stefanski or was it Zach Taylor that was like, you guys want to be in the playoffs? Uh, Stefanski he's like, you're already in. Congrats. You're in the play. That's exactly what you say to a team that you know, it's not going to be very good. Yeah. Like congrats guys. We made the playoffs cause it's week one and You're in the place. Yeah, that's exactly what you say to a team that you know It's not gonna be very good. Yeah, like congrats guys We've made the playoffs because it's week one and everybody's in the play. Yeah, but Tomlin man He just he's he I get it like just even I I've obviously started to realize it But I now fully fully get it in the fact that like watching him in front of a room

He opened up his house for the whole team for Thanksgiving like that He's like if anyone needs a place to go, come over to my house. And yeah, his big thing was either you're thriving or surviving. If you're just surviving, figure out a way to thrive. The league will figure you out. Yeah. It's great. Makes me feel like I'm in a locker room. And then Jameis doing like practicing cadences with no shoes on in the quarterback's room was pretty awesome. He's the best

It's good. The AFC North hard knocks is very good as for this game fun fact, which I think I just Memory hold because the Browns went and won a playoff game in Pittsburgh But the Cleveland Browns have not won a regular season game in Pittsburgh since anyone got a guess Baker Maybe I'll get Miles Garrett. Give me a quarterback and a year if you can Baker 2020 No, the Browns have lost Mason Rudolph assault. No. Yeah, that's right That's what I was going for when I said Miles Garrett The last time urgent win the last time the the Cleveland Browns and a regular and got it 2003 that's crazy 20 years

Because they won in the playoff game, so it doesn't feel like that. Yeah That's a Covid playoff game. That was the kovat playoff case. Oh, that was Stefanski wasn't able to he was in his basement. Yeah, that's right So that was Stefanski wasn't able to he was in his basement. Yeah, that's right Isn't that nuts? Yeah, that's that's very I don't know how much like how much you can count up Cove at playoff game Oh also, no, we got to give that come on Hank. Yeah. Yeah, it was late. They had fans there Probably first responders in the stadium It was weird, but yeah, I'm gonna count it. You got it. Give it to you hate Cleveland Is that true Hank no, I did There was a guy and I think he

was being serious. And so hosting this show, we get a lot of fan bases that claim that we hate them all to get like a taste of the Joe Buck life. For the first time, there was a Browns fan that accused me directly is like PFT. You've always hated the Cleveland Browns. And that to me is like the last fan base that I would have expected that from that one's weird It's weird, right? I've gotten a couple weird ones because like I in the Baker Brown split up What do you think I said? Oh memes? Yeah memes. I agree with the Browns man Did I hate the Browns? Yeah, I just took Baker's I said you should have kept Baker when they did it. I had an issue with that Pft

Memes is agreeing. Yeah memes hates me right now for the record. I don't hate memes. I had an issue with that. Any anti-PFT memes is agreeing with you. Yeah, memes hates me right now. For the record, I don't hate memes. I love memes. I also love memes. So, in that 20 years, since the Browns have lost last won a regular season game in Pittsburgh, the Browns have only beaten the Steelers one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, eight times in the regular season total. So it's it's been hammer and nail. And also coming off a very public win against the Steelers in prime time. Yeah, very emotional win reverse. I feel

like this is this is prime for a Tomlin shit kicking Alex Highsmith is back. But I do hate the Browns. Yeah, you do. You do hate the Browns. I don't think the Browns are gonna quit, because of Jameis, but this is, we are on quit watch for some teams right now. Yeah. Like this is definitely the part of the season.

Also, did you guys see, wait, so back to that real quick. What's the, that Browns fan saying that you hate the Browns is definitely one of the weirdest. I was trying to think which one I had Let's see you remember but there's always a stray one where it's like, what are you talking about, dude? Yeah, I think sometimes we don't realize it cuz we just talk and we say like a stray comment can really affect somebody Yeah, and they I get it as a means what I would like to think you guys hate Oh, I do hate the Vikings, but that's because they're in the NFC North

I don't hate the Vikings dolphins Raiders. I Don't hate those the ones I remember. I don't know I'm saying oh for you. Yeah. No not for me The Raiders we did on purpose when we didn't remember didn't do them for fastest two minutes. Yeah, that was all of 2019 Maybe I also just want to say if you pick against the team, that doesn't mean you hate the correct. Like that's someone's got to cover the spread unless it's me and the Browns unless you're in the Browns. Very person. And you are taking the Steelers. I'm I just said this is Mike Tomlin. Shit kicking. Yeah. Did you see Mike Tomlin's quote about Joey Porter getting flagged six times? He said when we play Shaq, we're

going to use our fouls. Yeah. Yeah. Well, all right So this week they've got land Clark officiating Oh, you know land and his crew they like to throw a lot of pass interference Which that should be a stat for the offense and for the defense too Yeah And actually not a bad stat for the defense because if you commit pass interference Means that your quarterback was in position to make a play true But it should be a good stat for the like what quarterbacks out there right now

I I feel like Russ would not be a bad pass interference quarterback with the moon balls. No, he would be good Yeah, you're if you got if you got late hands getting them up there Yeah, although Joey Porter Joey Porter He does get well the Steelers might be very good at drawing offensive pass interference and also very bad at committing defensive pass interference. True. I'm backing on believing on the Steelers. This team makes no sense to me because they're good. But like I also don't. I'm going to need Russell Wilson to win another Super Bowl for me to say he's not washed. Is he back in the Hall of Fame? He might be. He might be. Should we leak our news? It's also hard for, oh yeah, let's leak our news a second. It's hard. I don't know if you guys struggle with this as well. It's very difficult for me to make a quick transition on a team on what I expect from them. I don't expect the Steelers to score a lot of points and have explosive plays. They clearly can do that with this offense, but my brain is not caught up

and it probably won't catch up for like four to five years. Yeah. And we talk about this with the RG three a little bit, but do you know what I'm saying? That you can get a vibe for the Steelers offense pretty early in the game just on how fast nausea Harris looks, correct? Just on the eyeball test. Yeah. He's like first run. Is he doing the slow like two footed hop to the side and get tackled for one yard Or is he like breaking it to the outside and hitting the whole hard if he hits the whole hard on the first run I feel like that's instantly Steelers offense will be good that day. Yeah, I agree. Oh, yeah, you want to bleak it Should we well, let's bleep it out. Can we can we bleep this out? What are you saying Max?

Do you think that there's any chance of a divisional look-ahead game for the Steelers? No, because this is a game in the division. No, that's what I'm saying. Like next week they play, they go to Philly play the Eagles Play the three win Browns. That's not their division. Why are we talking about the Eagles? Wait, so what would be the look ahead? That the Steelers are looking towards the Eagles? No, because they just lost to the Browns And it's they're in the division but okay it was a very it was a prime time loss and also if you watch Hard Knocks like they all take a lot of pride in in division games I didn't watch our not okay you know you don't watch football during the week I watch it on I'm gonna watch tonight okay there'll be sure you can do it thousand what is it on what our nose so much feel max it's

literally on your app yeah who asked that someone asked that question the other day I think it was che oh yeah that was stupid question he's an idiot so should we leak this news yeah but maybe let's just bleep out the second part of this guy's name Hold on I want to read this too because I actually was I was too busy today that I saw it But I didn't process it but go ahead. I'm gonna read along. Okay, so We mean big cat got a text today from a guy at Barstool named Jersey Bleep out the second part of that so they can't figure out who it is

He has been contacted by a representative from Russell Wilson and he said I was a day one believer everybody counted him out I defended him I'm so happy he's a stealer he's done so much in a short time and the representative was very happy that Jerry was out there defending Russ. Jerry sent us a screen grab of this and said oh my god guys don't leak this yet and I was confused what he Jerry was out there defending Russ. Jerry sent us a screen grab of this and said, Oh my God, guys don't leak this yet. And I was confused what he meant by don't. What does

he not want us to leak? Uh, that he's friends that he's DMed with Russell Wilson's manager. Yeah. And he said, well, don't leak this. I said, leak what? He said this thread. I'm going to ask for a meet and greet with Russie. Is that too fast? And I said, what would we leak? He says the thread, Eric, the messages. This is massive for me. And an update. This person said, have you met Russ yet? I want to make it happen. And then Jerry says, no, I want to so bad with three exclamation points. Also, I'm looking at his first time Jerry's he's heart and too many messages.

Yeah. So I thought in every single one of her messages I said are you hearting every message he said yeah is that too much it might be too much he might be coming a little strong it might be because there's I think five messages from this person he's hearted all of them oh no he's mad at me now because I told him we were gonna maybe leak well we didn't leak it we bleeped out his name. Yeah. Also, what would be the leaking of this? Yeah. Hello, Hey, Jerry, we're live on PMT right now. We might have leaked we bleeped out the second part of your name, but we did leak

your messages. Is that a problem? Yeah, big one. Why? Well, because the meeting is set up. Oh, so it's getting it's getting set up, but I don't want to ruin the chance of that. No, it's all positive stuff. If anything, this will actually make it like this person can't back out now because if they back out, it's like, Hey, what did you do? I think you're actually right. Yeah, to steal a play from Providence Twitter. This is hashtag the meet-and-greet. Yeah, what are you meet and greeting him? Jerry one thing I noticed are why are you spelling it in EAT and greet?

What is full access mean like all access like no holes barred pre post pre post pre game post game game more in something gloves or cleats or something why don't we start with just meeting him good that'd be fair okay that's fair what now what what dates are you looking at she's the one looking at the dates. All right, but you can't miss streaming. Yeah, we'll have to. Yeah, we're going to figure everything out. Okay. All right. So, but, but it's been leaked, but that's okay. It's put pressure on it. Yeah, there you go. Rusty riders, rusty riders, Jerry, Jerry, who do you like this weekend? You like them to cover Steelers or Browns? wow okay all right thanks Jerry see ya you got it

alright bye all right the meet and greet and pre and post it should be a lecker yeah that was crazy that max tried to bring in the Eagles for this he's always bringing up Philly sports I I'm just, I want the Steelers to win. Yeah, they will. Because we play them next week. They will. But I don't want that, that is my worry. And I don't think it's that bad of a take. Okay, next game.

You know what, before I say the next game, I'm gonna give a trivia. Let's see who can get it. Who leads the NFL in receptions this year I'm feeling hurt for so much of the year Pft. I this shocked me. I got it wrong. So don't feel bad if you get it wrong. I got it wrong when I when I saw it is it Garrett Wilson it is not Garrett Wilson any guests in the booth? Memes is a good one. Brock Bowers?

It is Brock Bowers. Memes knows the ball. How, Brock Bowers, and so we're gonna do Raiders at Bucks, Bucks minus six and a half over under 46. Brock Bowers is first in receptions, he's fourth in yards. I know that it will go to a quarterback, but Brock powers is the best tight end in the NFL He should win rookie of the year. I disagree I

Understand why you have I just in principle have to I know I understand why but you see what I said He is literally the best player at his position in the NFL as a rookie. Well, it's also the fact that the Raiders don't really have anything else. Correct. So their opponents know that they have to get him the ball no matter what. And they have not great quarterbacks throwing him the ball.

And they're still getting him the ball. He's that good. It's an insane season. Do you think the fact that he literally doesn't look like a rookie? Maybe. And out of his helmet? Maybe.

That has something to do with it's like, oh oh this guy's basically like a BYU player yeah playing against other guys I was just trying to figure out ways to talk about the Raiders without being a big bummer yeah no Brock powers is that Brock powers is awesome yeah he's incredible do we think Mike Ravel's gonna be next coach the Raiders no cuz I think he's going to the Bears I think he might be the next coach the Raiders no cuz I think he's going to the Bears I think he might be the next coach the Raiders Brady yeah the Brady connect doesn't feel like that maybe I have no idea how it's gonna play out I think the box will probably win this game though and maybe cover because it does feel like the Raiders that was that was everything on their season against Chiefs yeah they they everything's

going good for him right now everything's's looking good. If you're a Bucks fan Yeah, I know it was close against the Panthers and Baker's banged up Baker's banged I hasn't played great in the last couple but Mike Evans had that sick catch. He did How would you replace a former, you know defensive stud players? Coach with a former defensive stud players coach because Mike variables Vrabel is a really good coach in Antonio Pierce. Who we like, maybe isn't. Is that a fair answer? I guess if you're going based off, I mean, Antonio Pierce is one.

I know the team is bad, but I think Mike Vrabel is a better coach than Antonio Pierce. Yeah, and Tony Pierce would be so pissed off if a patriot took his job. Yeah, he would. Maybe Jets too. I saw there was a Jets Mike Frabel conversation. That should happen. I did see that. He wants control of the GM choice. And then he would consider. So he wants to pick the GM. He wants control. And he doesn't care what Bill Belichick thinks about Woody Johnson. That's what the report was I mean, that's that's smart to demand control. I Don't think he's gonna come here. No, I think he might be the Raiders So wait does variable he says that he wants control over who the GM will be or he wants control over personnel

That's what that's what the tweet was. He wants he wants to choose the GM. So they're on the same page. Got it. Okay, got it He wants to choose the GM so they're on the same page. Got it. Okay. Got it. Yeah, the Bucks, I think Monday morning, the Bucks are gonna be NFC South, top of the NFC South. We got a pirate off in this game. Yeah, big time.

I like the Bucks. Yeah, okay, Panthers at Eagles, Eagles minus 12 and a half over under 46. I'll say it, I think this is, the Eagles have to win this game by a lot for me to take them for real How much is a lot? They have to cover If I want if I want to take them for real, this is kind of a huge game

Trust tree. Yeah, I Said the look ahead thing cuz I'm worried about a look But it's not divisional. I know but then I added the visual thing because I thought that made sense and honestly made no Opposite it was opposite. It was dumb, but that was me projecting that was me projecting my own insecurities Max Would you ever think playing against the Giants you would look ahead if you had the Steelers? you had the Steelers? No, but yes, honestly, yes. Max, can I make you feel better about this game? Because I think the Eagles are going to kill them.

Everyone thinks the Eagles are going to kill them. But no, I actually disagree. I think there's like, the Panthers have covered a couple games in a row, so people are kind of like wise to the Panthers aren't as bad as they used to be. The Eagles defense is elite. elite their top five in total defense They're also top five in run defense Which the Panthers are gonna want to try to do which they won't be able to do and then the Panthers run defense is 31st in DVO way, I think

This could be the game that Nick Sirianni goes video game controller and tries to get Seguin the MVP That would be elite that would be awesome for me. I actually think we should contemplate for our TD parlay Seguin to Seguin to the problem with that is if this goes according to plan for the Eagles it's gonna be it's gonna be a blowout and Then Barkley might not stay in the game, but I think they're gonna I here's and I'm not basing this off anything But I'm just taking a guess could we potentially see instead of the tush push at goal line? Saquon trying to get some TDs fake tush push No, or just Saquon just running the ball normally and scoring that way because now it was defense

But I'm just saying like the fake tush push where they fake it and then pitch it to Saquon just running the ball normally and scoring that way because the Panthers defense. But I'm just saying- I can see the fake tush push where they fake it and then pitch it to Saquon going to the outside. Okay, but it's just like Saquon, his numbers are there, maybe needs a couple more TDs because Jalen Hurts has vultured some, so they might just pump them up a little bit this week. Max, do you think that the tush push is getting back to pre post Kelsey levels of effectiveness? No it went, there was a couple weeks where it was bad but that was because Jordan Milata wasn't there because Jalen Hurts always goes towards Jordan Milata's side.

So it's just as- With Milata back, it's still elite. Just as effective? I feel like you have some sort of stat to tell me that. No no, this is not a trick question at all I'm just curious like 90 90 90 percent as effective with Jordan Milato Does it still give you like that same rush that you used to get I mean I still have zero I? Still give just as excited if we're third and one or fourth and one you wouldn't be more excited if it was Jason Kelsey

It really I still kind of have that come you're you're just having me put a bad tape out there right now no and it does get fucked up but I still have 95% of the comfortability that I did last year when it's fourth and one it's like I'm not I'm not worried 95 night like of last year I've realized what it is with Max when he gets stuck in his senses, in his own brain. It's because he is actively thinking about whether or not his answer is going to give us something to make fun of him for later.

Correct, you guys have ruined me. But he doesn't realize that no matter what his answer is, Yeah. Sometimes we just have conversations, Max. Cause like 95%, that seems like, that's pretty good, but there's also 5% where that could be game of inches ever heard of that you got yeah It sounds like I I get I get skeptical every single time you guys want to talk to me You're out to get me

I thought Hank I thought Hank was I thought you were looking at Hank when you're looking at me These reactions are so funny in this in this episode here max. I got a good staff for you Teams off overtime or 44% against the spread over the last decade so 44% against spreads bad and The spreads 12 and a half So even if the Panthers cover the Eagles can still win comfortably. Eagles are going to win this game. Max. I would love to be 45% against the spread by the way. Yeah, me too. Oh my God. You said that and I was like, that's, that seems like kind of good. Yeah. It's basically making money. This is

non NBA cup division. Yeah. Uh, max you're going to win this game. Yeah, no, I no, I think we're going to win. I'm just worried it's going to get, I just don't want it to be, I don't want them to get cute. Yeah. I don't want them to get cute. And they're whenever game, especially cause I could see we're going to taping after this. The lions just lost. The Eagles are playing for the you're so bad at this, Matt. You did so good for a little bit. I know. That's just wishful thinking.

And now this is going to be the part that... Whatever. If the Eagles are... they have to beat the Panthers for the one seed. It's like, oh, Eagles one seed, done. Lock it in. And then it's like, oh my god, we finally have a chance to be the one seed. And then we lose to the fucking Panthers. So Baldiani, undefeated after he shaved his head, is he going to reshave his head or is

it just like this new hair, whatever's growing in his good that's winning hair? No, he's just got to, he has to keep until he loses again, then he goes Baldiani again. Got it. So he keeps it growing. Every loss bald. You restart. And I, another thing that I've been worried about for the past couple weeks is Hank keep saying it When are we getting the NFL makes no sense game?

It could have been the Raiders on on Friday on Black Friday Yeah, like I'm worried that I think those are gonna get one of these NFL makes no sense here. Here's maybe your answer What if we have already hit our are like full of it? We had so many is early September and October Raiders over Ravens remember the first like four weeks Where it was just every week every single game every single week There'd be like a eight-point dog that would lose outright or a favor to lose out Right was a crazy year for the star Iverpool correct also kind of late in the season for those games I agree that it might have just passed

I don't know But you said it and I've been thinking about it ever since as soon as you said NFL makes no sense game I've been worried. It's gonna be coming to me. We did get one two weeks ago. What was that? Is me yeah, but it's still like is it was like an 11-point spread, but it's also like what? It's also what it's I mean, it's not like a storied franchise. Okay put in the bulletin board Delta commanders have more super bowls than the Eagles. Oh, yeah, we do three times. I mean you have I Think it's three times. Are you alive times more? Yes, I was three times. Where are you? Yeah

Okay Saints of Giants. Giants minus four and a half over-under is 41. Giants haven't covered in seven straight games. Yeah, there's a lot of depressing stats out there about the Giants. This game is not... This is gonna suck. Because no Taysom Hill to me just means that the Saints are back to just a lot of Derek Carr. Yeah, too much Derek Carr. Too much Derek, I like a little bit of Derek Carr. Oh, I do too. Sprinkle him in there, but you also have to have like,

you know, the crazy Taysom Hill plays. Right. Where it makes you excited as a viewer to watch, but we're not even gonna get that. There's a storyline, big storyline. Guaranteed, I'm gonna do the PFT guaranteed graphic of the week that they will show at some point. Okay.

During the game, Darren Rizzi and Brian Dable, both on the staff of the 2011 Dolphins together. Wow. So they'll show at some point during the game. Darren Rizzi and Brian Dable, both on the staff of the 2011 Dolphins together. So they'll show the coaches picture from that staff. That's as exciting as this game is gonna get. Are either Darren Rizzi or Brian Dable gonna be head coaches next year? I think over under a half.

I'd take the over. I think I might take the under. I think it's going in the wrong direction for the Giants right now. I think they might clean the under I think it's going in the wrong direction for the Giants right now I think they might clean the hole They say he's a good coach, but I think they might I this is a quick game Yeah, there's a quick game for sure although drew lock is playing for a contract. I guess ish is that good though Yeah, you might try too hard. Yeah, and I don't think the Saints are very good Yeah, this game stinks. That game is going to be this is going to be

a bright sunny day in New York and it's gonna be cold as fuck. And the metal lands that stadium gets brighter in the sun and the cold than any other stadium. Yep. You're absolutely right. Okay, next game. The Jaguars at the Titans Titans minus three over under is 40. So if the Jaguars lose this game they will remain with the first pick. This might be the NFL makes no sense game of the week. What that they're just playing it and putting on TV. You're gonna be yeah you're gonna be watching and be like what is this? Yeah. None of these plays make sense. Do you think there's any first of all?

Aziz al-shayr doing the like Joker memes and being like if you want me to be your villain I'll be your villain see you soon. It's like no, dude We just want you to not concuss a quarterback when he's sliding. Yeah, that was an interesting Interesting thing and people obviously ran with the whole Trevor Lawrence out four weeks and as he's out all shares only suspended for three weeks Like yeah, no does suspension is not gonna be as long as an injury sometimes. Yeah, that's kind of how it works Yeah, like what are we talking about? Yeah, I do like I like the fact that he's making himself the villain Yeah, but he's he's literally doing I can't exist Yeah, and so I'm just gonna go Joker on you. You should get an Aziz al-Shahr here Jersey or just get your face paint like the Joker Question actually this question for you Hank

I've been thinking about betting the Jaguars in this game and The reasoning behind it is is there a chance Mac Jones is like hey if I want to stick in the league I got to throw at least one good game out there I've been on that train past couple weeks, and I don't think that's I don't think it's possible. Okay, I'm sure he's thinking that Yeah, no, he's trying to do that, but it might not happen. Yeah, or be able to happen. It might not physically be possible No, I don't think it is. Okay. Yeah So, you know lad mcconkey, he is the lead leaguer and rookie receptions as wide receiver

Brian Thomas is 50 yards away from that. So Brian Thomas Jr. is having a great season for the Jaguars. And I feel like if you get him the ball, then the offense can look average for the Jaguars at times. Average. The Titans kind of quit last week too. Yeah, they did. And I think that that's, this is another quit game where both teams are eligible to quit. I actually, you know what? I might do in this game. Yeah, that's stupid because it's a divisional quit. I actually, you know what I might do in this game? Man, it's stupid because it's a divisional game. I was gonna say, what if I, I might just bet like adjusted line Titans minus nine and a half

and Jaguars minus nine and a half and be like, hope one of the teams quits. Yeah, one of the two will. This is interesting, Mac Jones stat here. In his two starts this year, the Jaguars didn't reach double digits. So I don't know if he's capable of breaking out. Yeah, it sounds like he's not capable. Last early slate game jets at dolphins, dolphins minus five and a half over under 45 memes.

I'm excited for, uh, here, for enigma. No, to see how Aaron Rogers responds. So we have a Aaron Rogers chip on his shoulder game. He was calling out the owner subtly in the press conference this week when he was saying like, I, I shouldn't have to prove myself. Yeah. He said, yeah. He said, uh, someone asked like I I shouldn't have to prove myself. Yeah, he said yeah He said someone asked like is this prove it last five weeks He says that's ridiculous with all due respect if they want me to stay fantastic if it takes them five games Maybe they don't know what I bring to the table that being said I'd love to play Really friggin well the last five games. Yeah, so I'm interested to see if he actually has greatness in him

I don't and if he could sling it right as a football fan He also just redid his house in New Jersey said so my Giants take could still be yeah. Yeah, that's true I could happen did there did Ulbricht say anything about Rogers maybe not being the quarterback No, he said he said he's our quarterback. He's our quarterback Also, don't people like redo their houses right before they're about to sell it for like? True. Yeah, wait. If it's like remodeling the bathroom and the kitchen,

then that's to increase value of the home. Do we know what rooms? We don't know what rooms. Do you want them to win? I don't want them to win. I want them to play well. OK, so that's a perfect answer. The Jamis loss.

Yeah. That's what I want. you want Rogers to throw for over 300 yards She hasn't done in like three years, and you want the Jets to lose Jets lose Al Mazar is coming back He's an Al Al Mazar merchant. Yep, so I think the offense should slay it no sauce gardener though No sauce the defense probably get run all over. Yeah, I was gonna say no sauce Gardner against the Dolphins offense is tough. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a high score game. I gotta give credit to it.

Did you guys see his quote? Yeah. It was very cool. Most guys wouldn't do that, but he was asked how surprised he is by the team's five and seven record. He said, nobody else will say it but me I feel like this has a lot to do with myself

Obviously putting myself in harm's way in the second game basically leaving my guys out to dry Yeah, that's a lot of accountability Yeah Cuz nobody wants to be like if if he didn't get concussed we would be better and he needs to be better at not being Concussed right for us to win. But yeah, there's there's times where you can avoid hits and try to. Yeah, I think it's good for him to say. Yeah, I do too. So we're gonna root for a good Aaron Rodgers performance. Good Aaron Rodgers performance.

Jets also haven't beat Tua. So there's your stat for the day. Have the Jets won since you said that Aaron Rodgers was just top five in everything? Texans? Maybe, I think it was after the Texas game before. Yeah it was. It was after a Thursday before a Sunday.

It feels like you're really attacking memes here big guy. I'm not, I'm just asking questions. He's just a solid Jets fan, he's been through a lot of shit, he's trying to find silver lining. He's patronizing you memes. We should applaud this optimism from me. He is patronizing.

He is patronizing. I'm not patronizing. I like your take memes that just have Rogers show that he has some life but lose the game. That's it. Show you're still good at football. Don't go out sad. Right. Are you going to be watching his Netflix special?

Yeah, thanks. Oh, nice. So more torture for yourself. Yeah, there's never been there's never been a bigger dumpster fire of a team that's provided as much like documentation of how things are falling apart as the Jets have recently yeah that's what makes it feel even more like mean and pointed where it's like a normal bad team you can turn your head away from but with the Jets that are like well you have to consume all this brand new content That we have coming out

You're with this guy saying Means if you had to kill me what method would you use? Hmm Max wants explosion. Yeah bomb Not a big murder. I think you'd poison him It's a small murder chicks. Yeah Maybe just beat him beat his brain to pulp Means already has released his playbook on death. Yeah explosion

Yeah, I just have feeling memes might show up dressed in all black with a mask and a backpack on and that happens Me avenge me memes. Don't don't don't do this to PFT, okay? Dressed in all black with a mask and a backpack on and that happens Me eventually Memes don't don't don't do this to PFT. Okay Now think about it, okay All right afternoon games. We got three sucks. We have three again See Oxford Cardinals, but again last by week see X cardinals Cardinals minus three over under forty four and a half So I Cardinals minus three over under 44 and a half. So, I don't know what to do with this game. Mike McDonald is, had a baby on Tuesday. That's good.

I think that's good for a coach. Might give you too much perspective though. Yeah. The Seahawks defense has gotten better, but according to my guys at sports info solutions, the rank is the second worst defense and success rate allowed for the year against play action. Okay, Cardinals can run play action. And I also just feel like it's one of those situations where the Cardinals lost a game to the Seahawks two weeks ago, three

weeks ago, revenge spot. Seahawks. Sorry, Cardinals, Cardinals, because they lost.. Yeah in Seattle. Yeah the Seahawks has they've beaten the Cardinals six in a row Wow, yeah, and So far as the head coach Jonathan Gannon hasn't beaten the Seahawks. He's own three it gets the Seahawks Okay, but the Seahawks are a very strange team where like week to week you have no idea what's gonna happen. I Like the Cardinals and I like it low scoring. I do too. Maybe maybe a little just heavy Connor running game Yeah, just get this might be like the James Connor three touchdown game without a dog in the fight

I want the Cardinals to win just because I want the NFC West is to be a clusterfuck all the way to the last Game of the season where we have no idea. Yeah, by the way breaking moves Tyree kill just had a baby girl Hill now reportedly has 10 plus children were in 30 years of life Oh, wait, that's December 2nd. What does 10 plus mean? Yeah, how many is that? I Don't know. I'm just reporting this tweet. When you said the other baby, the other baby thing triggered memes to say, show them this. So we should maybe bet Tyree Kale. But he has so many. Well, he scores a lot of touchdowns. How many times has he scored on a baby bird? Maybe that's why he scores all those touchdowns somebody out there 10 plus me

figure out those facts 10 plus because I feel like that's also not a number like 10 plus That means number that means at least 11 Does it when you throw the plus in there yeah? But if you or is it just like that's the most babies that you can have? So you count each individual baby and then once you hit double digits, it becomes 10 plus. But you're betting on something on DraftKings and it's 10 plus, it could just be 10.

10 hits. 10 plus children. Maybe it's just an adjective like they're really awesome children. I mean, it's 10 plus children. His sperm are just as fast as he is Close to a whole team. All right Afternoon game number two bills at Rams Rams plus three and a half over under 49 half

This is a very important game for the Rams. They need to win this game. Otherwise, they're in trouble Mm-hmm. Also just a shout out Sean McD, Josh Allen. If the Bills win this game, Sean McDermott will be the fifth, that'll be his fifth straight 11 win season. The only coaches to do that are Bill Belichick, Tony Dungey, Andy Reid, and Tom Landry. Pretty good company. Yeah, really good. That's Bill Belichick with Tom Brady. That's Tony Dungey with Peyton Manning. That's Andy Reid with Patrick Holmes. That's Tom Landry with, you know, Roger Staubach. That's pretty good company. Yeah, it's really good. He's been an elite regular season coach. I like the Bills in this. I think, I think the Bills are a better team than they've been

given credit for all year and getting Matt Milano back on defense. Yeah. And showing some of that up. I think I really, really like the Bills this season. I think that they're kind of a slept on team. I agree. Hank Rams in the, in the hungry dog. Yeah. Yeah. But that game. Yeah. Why is that travel? Travel. I just think this is I don't know if the Rams can win this game, but three and a half. I The Rams have to win this game like it's a kitchen sink game. Sean McVeigh throwing everything at the wall Yeah, the kitchen sink game didn't factor that in I do so I just want to know when I say when I say the bills are slept

And obviously nobody out there thinks that the bills are a bad football team. They all think that they're a very good football team I think that they're a great football team. No, no, no. The narrative going into the season was rebuilding year. So now we're, you know, in December and they're vying for the one seed, like respect the fact that they rebuilt kind of on the fly. Yeah, I think they're, they're a great team and they're having a great season. Micah hides back. It's going to tell me a lot. That's what it is for the bills. Go and tell me a lot about about your bills. Tell me a lot. Are you for real? Are you for real? Tell me are you for real? Okay. Also, Stafford has a ankle sprain. So we'll see what happens to that.

But I'm sure he'll be fine. He's a gamer. The Rams picked up Emmanuel Forbes off waivers, who was released by the commanders. Did you see the video of him? No, he gets skinnier every single day. It's actually insane how tiny this guy is. Can we pull up the Yep, watch the video of him? No, he gets skinnier every single day. It's actually insane how tiny this guy is. Can we pull up the Yeah, watch the video of him. practicing with the Rams. He's already out there practicing. Yeah, he was on the field. Oh my god. Yeah, he is very skinny. Look at that. Whoa.

He looks like an alien, doesn't he? Yeah, that's I think it's also because the helmet. Oh, he's got the guardian cat. Yeah, definitely cheap, but no he looks very skinny He should never wear a guardian cap. He looks very skinny. I could run over him. Yeah All right bears 49ers 49ers minus three and a half over under is 44 I think this is gonna be a Thomas Brown bump game. I'm down for an interim coach bump game Yeah, especially do you know anything about him that would make him a great interim coach? I think he's just a fiery guy.

He also has lost 22 pounds since November 12. He said it's because he's gotten so busy. Okay, he's gotten two job promotions. He said if you increase tasks to your day, you forget about food. increase tasks to your day, you forget about food. I don't know if he's like traditionally, like he's not a huge guy, but it's more how much everyone hated Matt Eberfluss. Yeah. Which by the way, we should give one compliment to Matt Eberfluss.

Kairos Santos was asked, you know, about Matt Eberfluss. And he said he made the grass at Soldier Field amazing, which he did. He did after the 49ers game two years ago, when it was that monsoon, he had them change the grass at Soldier Field and it's been significantly better since. So, Matty Ruffalo's great legacy.

Yeah, you can't tell the story. Once the Bears win multiple Super Bowls, you'll have to give credit to Matty Ruffalo. But that's a hell of a quote to have your kicker be like, hey, we'll say something nice about the coach who just got fired. Yeah, like dude, he changed the grass, it's cool. Well, also the kicker saying that's a hell of a quote to have your kicker be like, Hey, we'll say something nice about the coaches. She got fired. Yeah. Like dude, he, he, he changed the grass. It's cool. Well, also the kicker saying that is different than if it was like a lineman. Yeah.

Like he made it good for kicking. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I also, are you trying to impress Kal Shanahan this week? Well, Florio did do a fan fiction. He did. And I liked it. You've adopted and I read it. Yeah, I've totally adopted it. Yeah. You kidding Jamie is I mean, I've been thinking about it for a while now But I'm totally in on this and Kyle Shanahan did do a press conference where he just said kill wounds is as talented as there is and He was born to play the position So yeah, I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Are the Niners just bad? Yeah, they might be just bad. There's just bad this we just got to accept the fact that there's not good Yeah, they're bad. Their offense doesn't look great. You can't score in the red zone defense isn't what it was at all

Yeah, just completely different team right now. Yeah, also a little update on what the walls reported last September. Oh, yeah Christian McCaffrey posted on Instagram, but he's looking forward to returning and playing better than ever So he's back next year. Mmm Not just this year. He's back next so that's as much of a non retirement as you can get. Yeah He's not retiring not even close not even closer retiring Okay, last game Sunday Night Football Chargers achieve chiefs minus four over under 43 Last game Sunday Night Football Chargers achieve chiefs minus four over under 43 Do you see hardball give away the the the lunch pails? It's such a blue-collar guy. Just love it. I

Unfortunately think this is a chief spot. So the lunch pails they said what stalwart was on the wall. Yeah That's a that's a hardball word That is a hardball read that in like a Hemingway novel and was like I'm putting that on yes stalwart Hardball word. That is a hardball. Hardball read that in like a Hemingway novel and was like, I'm putting that on there. Yeah. Stall word. Lad McConkey might not be playing in this game, which that is a very significant injury for the Chargers offense that is limited to begin with. Yeah. So his knee and his shoulder is fucked up. Yeah. Hardball was like, he went as long as he could go. Yeah. And then he came out. Thank you. Thank you for your service Lad. Yeah. They're, uh, the Chargers when lab McConkies targeted is 0.55 EPA per play and when he's not a point oh eight. That's pretty significant. Yeah, we'll see

what happens with the Chargers defense and this chiefs offensive line to well DJ Humphreys might be coming playing for left tackle, which would be big for the chiefs. But I just aren't we kind of like the conversation of the NFL makes makes no sense. Aren't we due for chiefs flexing on people and being like hey, we're not bad A reverse makes no sense. Yeah No, maybe maybe maybe Are they though? I don't know. This is why we're having a preview Are they good? I think they are.

This has to be the Chargers. Why? Right. It has to be the Chiefs. It has to be the Chargers. But if it has to be the Chargers, there's any chance of the Chargers winning the Super Bowl. They have to win this game. No, they're, they're, they're going to get to playoff anyway. But if they're going to win the Super Bowl, they have to win gonna get to play off anyway, but if they're gonna win the Super Bowl they have to win this why Because it's an ultimate test ultimate coach you can fail a test and then still ace it later Now this the charges don't win this game Sounds like you have a Chargers not make the playoffs bet No, I just like have been brainwashed by you even though I've pushed back and and then what's wrong? I'm like, all alright. This has to be the Chargers. You're saying yeah. Yeah, I think the Chiefs blow them out

Yeah, I think it's look. I'm being honest. I Never see the Chargers good to hear every on it's good to hear be honest about the Chargers I never said they were gonna win every game. I don't know what you're doing here. What do you mean? It's nice. I never I never said the Chargers were gonna win every game the rest of the way I think the Chiefs are gonna win this game. But the whole thing is we gotta get to a good number. I understand. Once it gets to the playoff, the Chargers have to win a playoff game and we'll have

a great number and then we'll flex on Hank on our cash out. Wouldn't they be much more likely to win a playoff game if they won a game like this? I don't think it matters. I think they're probably locked in to the to the spot. They're in. I feel like you're trying to do some mind tricks right now and I don't know. I don't know what the story. I'm being honest that I think the chiefs are going to win this game.

I hope the chargers win unless I bet on the chiefs. If they can't win a lunch pail game, then they're not winning shit. What else? Where else can you go after the lunch pail? The hard hat? Yeah, he might even just get a jackhammer. Yeah, he's got a few more tricks in his bag. I love the chargers in this game. Fuck you.

All right, let's do our picks. By the way, with the Chiefs, what are the chances of them trying to fix some of their offensive stuff by bringing B and UB back? Oh yeah. Is that like perfect Andy Reid thing to do again? Yeah. Also maybe the greatest agent press release ever. Oh yeah. By Eric P. Enemy's agent. He got fired from UCLA today and he said, his agent said Eric and UCLA mutually parted ways today as previously planned he's still getting paid by the commanders after interviewing for head coaching jobs last year he wanted to stay active and busy so he decided to go help out Deshaun Foster

who was like his little brother at UCLA as opposed to sitting out a year the plan was always to return to the NFL in 2025 he's looking forward to the opportunities ahead I'm not owned I like that the conversation was you're fired. I agree. Yeah. They mutually. This was always the plan, dude. Yeah. I was always going to not be here next year. It wasn't even a coaching gig. Really? It was, I'm going to go help out my buddy. Yeah. My little brother. Yeah. His, if you look at his title, it wasn't, it wasn't offensive coordinator. It was here to help out. Yeah.

But you're exactly right. Special assistant, assistant Eric B enemy. Yeah. They're going to bring it back. It's going offensive coordinator. It was here to help out. Yeah, but you're exactly right special assistant system Eric B enemy Yeah, they're gonna bring it back. It's gonna happen Should we do a TD parlay first and then we'll do our picks Do we want to do this a corn too? I am a pfts out. I'm out this week I'm recusing myself from the from the touch. You can pick sake on and pick a pick sake one Okay Or I could fix no, Max is back in. PFT's out, because he's lost the last couple weeks.

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All right, so we shouldn't do that. So we need conviction. It's Hank me, Hank and Max. Can we get some conviction? Can we get some conviction together Can we get some conviction together boys? Bijan. Okay. Max. I will go. I'm not gonna lie. I thought PFT was gonna go. I will go.

God damn it. You go and I'll find conviction. No I'm doing, I'm gonna do the last one. Or are you gonna do a late game? I wanna do a late game. Sure, I can find a late game. No, I'm gonna do a late game so you do an early. Okay fine, I'll do an early game. Um...

Have some soul. Tyrone Tracy! What are the odds plus 140 okay someone's got a score I'll take Josh on Yeah, all right, let's see what that Tyrone Tracy's also someone doesn't have to score I know that's exactly what me just said yeah That's just not right. Yeah, well in this game. I could see I could see no score So we're gonna do Josh Allen is plus 100 Tyron Tracy is plus 140

Bijan why don't you just do seq one dude? All right fine. I'll do we want to win right? I'll do sake one I'll do sake one. I'll do sake one. We want want to win I'll do say one winning is the best part of this Saquon okay, and then what tanks Josh Allen B John? Oh? This is this will be fine Plus 415 okay as of now can change by by the time this comes out okay. All right, so plus 415 All right, let's do our picks Who's up first um so last week we did I know p no no no so pft did went first for the

Thanksgiving pick and then you went first right after ok for the snake so do you want to pick first again or does Hank we what Hank would pick first no if I went first yeah after that I shouldn't go first ok then No, Hank would pick first. No if I went first yeah after then I shouldn't go first. Okay, then Hank Hank I will take What's the records are being big cat close We're all we're all bad big cat 1314 Hank 12 14 1 the other co-host 11 16

I Will take the Jets Dolphins under 45 okay, all right. I'm gonna take the bangles minus five and a half I'm gonna take the Jets Dolphins over 45. Oh That's too bad. He was trying to leave that for me. He wanted me to go head to head with him. Sorry I'm gonna take fuck that up dude. I'm gonna take the bucks minus six and a half Bucks minus six and a half all right. I'm gonna take fuck that up dude. I'm gonna take the bucks minus six and a half Bucks minus six and a half alright. I'm gonna take Hmm I would take the I think the Bears plus three and a half and then I will take

The Falcons Vikings under 45 and a half I'm gonna take the Seahawks Cardinals under 44 and a half. I'm gonna take the Titans minus 3 I'm gonna take the Brown Steelers over 43 and a half and I will rock with Jim Harbaugh in the Los Angeles Chargers plus four You love them good pick great pick memes by the way. Love them. What was means he took the the Brown Steelers over. Oh nice Love that pick What it was a good pick I was gonna take it patronizing if I had a third pick I would have voted Time if I had a third pick I would have voted for Obama a third time if I had a chance all right I should just pick for each other for the rest yeah you guys

should oh oh no that's not good for me no that would be great I'd love to see PFT on a bachelor party what is that supposed to mean? I don't know what he thought there, but I said it. Yeah, you did say it. Sounded cool. All right, before we get to RG3, awesome interview with RG3, by the way. Fancy Fuckboys. This segment is brought to you by Body Armor. Real hydration, real ingredients packed with electrolytes, vitamins and nothing artificial. Body Armor sports drink has a great tasting flavor like strawberry banana and blue raspberry. Not only do we hydrate with Body Armor, but some of the best athletes in the world do as well. Like Christian McCaffrey, Joe Burrow, and Sabrina Ionescu.

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She just had a bad podcast episode, so... I disagree. I'm putting her on the bench. Yeah, rugpull. She's gotta do a little better with the podcasting. She also might have started a cryptocurrency scam, did a rugpull. I don't even know how that shit works. Oh, a rugpull like what we did to my friend Mori in his wig shop.

Yeah, exactly. Rugpull. My sleeper? University of North Carolina. Yeah. Tar Heels. Beautiful school, beautiful campus. You can only root, this is what I love about this rivalry. Some great alumni.

You can only cheer for UNC or Duke no matter what. You can't split them up. Why were you saying that they're a great team? I just think it's a great school, great program, it'd be a great place to end up. Oh, interesting. I'm just, I'm, you know, people sleep on UNC and I'm just telling you, it's a great spot. You would look good in Carolina blue.

Who wouldn't? Yeah. It's a great goa. Yeah. Okay. House divided. Between Hank and Hank? Hank and Henry.

Henry's Duke, right? Hank is UNC. David is Duke. What? What? My father. David Duke? David, my father, went to Duke. Yeah, but David Duke. David Duke. Bad guy. Bad guy. Disavowed. Is he a football player? No, no, no. He's not. No, no. No, no. But we're talking about the other guy. Yeah, the other guy. KKK.

The other wizard. Not good. Yeah. What's up, fuckheads? This is Michael Thomas Anthony Vincent. Oh, what's up, Michael Thomas Anthony Vincent. MTV. MTV is what they call me.

This week I'm starting drug testing. Oh. Starting drug testing. Oh. Starting drug testing. The NFL has just lowered the threshold for the amount of marijuana that can be in a player system so they're saying hey just don't take a hero dose on weed and we won't get you in trouble. But they're also saying if you post a picture of your drug test on social media you'll be fined $15,000.

Yeah that's bad. So we're not going to get those posts from guys that have great games out of nowhere And if you post a picture of your drug test on social media, you'll be fined $15,000. Yeah, that's bad. So we're not going to get those posts from guys that have great games out of nowhere and then take the picture and put them online and be like, oh, imagine that random test. Yeah. My cool throne is Superfans in the NFL. Not cool throne, my sit-em. Sit-em.

Is Superfans in the NFL. A story just came out that super fans are now selling jersey patches on their super fan jerseys and making $2000 a week. I love it. Like NASCAR drivers out there. It's supposed to be about the name on the back of the jersey. Excuse me, the name on the front of the jersey.

Not the name right beneath the name on the front of the jersey. Got it. And then my sleeper this week, big time sleeper. I'm talking shorts. It is so cold outside It is unreal. It was zero degrees the other day. I went outside of my shorts put the Christmas lights up I almost froze to death my balls up in my belly. Oh in the belly belly ball. What's weak? What's up fuckers? It's maxi delenty My stardom this week my asshole. My asshole? I make a mean sandwich. I made sandwiches for everyone.

Today, yesterday, tomorrow. Look at it on PMTV. Look at it on PMTV. Max's deli. My sitem is going to be the fake George Makasky Twitter account that everyone's buying because he's got a blue check mark. Stopging everyone in it's not really George McCasky I don't even think he knows how to you work a phone let alone the internet and my sleeper is The Georgia Bulldogs could they ban Bevo from the SEC championship game. That's fucked up. Yeah, why I don't know mad cow disease what's ever happened between those two Yeah, what what member my cow

disease yeah remember that that was wild yeah there were a lot of rumors out there you just ate meat and then you went crazy well Danny Boy Kane I think had mad cow no he did not never never max why don't you make us sandwiches once a week I could do that I'd be happy to fund every other week I'd be happy to fund it okay max making his sandwiches in tune with the PMTV. It was basically like watching a kid with like a spinning toy where it's like a sensory, you know, like you need to have a sensory break.

That was him like spreading the sauces and everything. He was just sitting there having the time of his life. They were really good sandwiches. I was concerned at how good they looked. Yeah. Like you really took your time dressing them up. Yeah, he did it. He did a great job. All right, let's get to RG3.

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the Chevy Silverado. now here's our G3 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest he's a recurring guest he's in studio It is Robert Griffin the third Heisman winner Rookie of the year and Also, we got a beef that we gotta settle. So RG3 and I have gone back and forth. Actually it's not even a beef because I was just wrong. Yeah, it's not a beef.

So I mean I said it, but- That's big. So you were saying that Caleb Williams, I think the beginning of it was you were like Caleb Williams should try not to go to Chicago. In so many words. In so many words. In so many words. In so many words. I admit it, hand up, obviously I'm very defensive

of everyone on the internet shitting on the Bears because it happens constantly. But I was saying that he's walking into the best situation for a number one quarterback. And while I still think it might have been true for some of the players that are around him The coaching does matter and that was a disaster and I was very wrong and I got myself a little hyped up to the point Where I looked stupid so you were right coaching matters and it was as bad as bad gets because I actually I wanted Jim Harbaugh

There's reports that they actually were gonna maybe interview him, but Kevin Warren said no Once they kept Matt Eberfluss. I was like, I guess this is what we're gonna do I'm gonna convince myself, but you were spot on coaching matters and I guess so my hand up you were right I was wrong victory lap. Would you like a victory lap? It's it's not a victory lap Like I know that's what you say when you're taking a victory. Yeah, that's the best Victory lap and I and I get it when I say it's not a victory lap and then everyone comes and says, hey, RG, you just took a victory lap. I understand that. You deserve one. I think where I'm coming from with it is I wasn't, honest to God, I was not trying to shit on the Bears. I know. Right? So when I came out and I said, Caleb Williams should pull an Eli Manning and tell the Bears he's not coming unless this happens. Now, the take that was out there was fully on,

hey, coaching matters, structure matters. You're looking at the Bears, you got, if Caleb comes in and they don't do anything with Eberfluss, he'll be the third quarterback in a row that had a hot seat coach and then now he's working on his second coach and his third coordinator in his second year So from that sense, yes, I was right, but I wasn't rooting for the Bears to fail

I just wanted them to make a decision Yeah, I'm ever flus and I did too when you said cuz I know you yeah, you're a big a big Advocate for them to move on from him. Yeah Right after the season. I was like get rid of him. And then this season, obviously, I was like, this is terrible. Get rid of him. And I'd probably say 90% of the fan base also wanted to get rid of him. Yes. And so I'm sitting there and I'm like, if in this new age of quarterback, right,

in this new age of NIL transfer portal player empowerment, LeBron James started in the NBA, it's trickling in all the other leagues. If you're a quarterback like Caleb, like Shadr coming out, and you have the power to tell a team, I need you to make a decision on your coach. So I was just saying, extend him. If you're gonna keep him, extend him so that the team knows that he's their guy.

I think they did secretly extend him under the wraps. Yeah, so here's my question to that. And again, you were absolutely right, because it was a debacle what Matt Eberfluss and Shane Waldron did. And I was hyper defensive because I spent, whatever it was, six months of every national media being like, Kale Williams wants ownership of the Bears.

Kale Williams should try to trade out, you know what I mean? I saw that, I saw that. But here's my question. If you are Kale Williams and you do that Yeah, what is the narrative then? Is it like hey is this guy a diva, correct? He's trying to get a coach fire before he's even showing up correct. How does that work? So for me it wasn't about him getting him fired the Bears had already made a decision right that they were keeping the Eber flows

so now it's like I'm having Courtney Cronin was a former colleague at ESPN and she's you know telling me well, you know, the Bears don't ever publicly announce When they give a guy an extension, right? They've that's just a you know an organizational practice But if you're going to do that, look what it did to Ibrah Fluss in that locker room Yeah, when you've got was a Jalen Johnson. Yeah, you know going off on him, you know, allegedly in the locker room after That is like going off I would just count that as speaking his mind appropriately Yeah, but who's been speaking their mind the most of all the guys all year. It's been DJ Moore Yeah, he's been so honest like to a fault almost in his postgame pressers

If you publicly extend Eberfluss, every player in that locker room now knows he's not going anywhere. Yeah. He's our guy. Yeah. They left it in the balance. So for me with Caleb Williams, all I was suggesting he do is say, I need to know what you're doing with the coach. Yeah. So I don't come into a situation where the structure is bad. And now he's going to be sitting there, second head coach, third offensive coordinator. And the structure is bad. And the organization is bad. And we don't have to belabor the point, but the thing that bothered me the most, like I root for guys. I root for teams. I know like me saying that kind of turned a lot of the Chicago Bear fans against me because they want their team to be successful. You want your team to be successful.

I understand that. When you wrote that, I don't think I wrote back, but I didn't like tear you down, write you back. It was like, I understand why you're frustrated. The thing that bothered me was the way that Ryan Pohl's handled it. Okay. When he, go ahead.

No, I wanna hear what you have to say because I feel like from the outside, go ahead, give me your take Yes, the way that they handled it going on Pat McAfee show and when asked about it saying it kind of pissed him off Almost as if they weren't walking down the same street Yeah, they're walking down the yellow big road to go see the Wizard of Oz that the last three Organizational leaders had done and for him to say it pissed him off because they're there to break the cycle I'm like, well, I'm giving you my

educated Not just throw something at the wall and see if it sticks. I've been through this PFT knows this I went through the structure portion of Why it matters in coaching and why it matters organizationally So I'm giving my advice based off of GM's I've talked to my own shared experience in the NFL And it's not that they need to listen to me But don't spit in my face and act like what I'm saying is so disrespectful to you And you know

I request from Pat McAfee the same time that you guys are giving me on here to be able to go up there and talk about not just why I was right, but how the Bears can fix the issue moving forward. And to me that was just like, it pisses you off, you wanna break the cycle? I want you to break the cycle, man. I'm not rooting against Caleb Williams.

I'm not rooting against your team. I want the Bears to be successful. Otherwise I'd have been doing victory laps all year, but I waited because I knew there was a chance that we could have this conversation and it wouldn't be just constant dunking on you guys. I'm not a villain. No, you're not a villain.

And you were right. And it's frustrating from a fan's perspective because I want them to be good. And every time there's a change I'm like this is gonna be different and unfortunately, it's still the same correct and you were you were right calling that out I still think Caleb has played well this year and he is he's the one Shining glimmer of hope that it's like maybe things will change because of him Yeah, because I think they'll probably screw up this coaching search, too

I think I think Caleb is a phenomenal player early in the year. I noticed a lot of bears fans were like really worried because Jayden was balling came out, but he came out playing so well because of the structure, right? New owner, new GM, new head coach, call plays, no expectations. Yeah. So they've exceeded them. The bears are what? Four in, yeah, four. Something like that. Four and eight. Yeah four in eight? Are they four in eight now? Something like that? Four in eight yeah. I think they might be four in eight so you look at that and it's like well last year you guys were seven in ten. Yeah. You trade away Justin Fields for a bag of chips on layaway next year right? A fifth rounder next year.

Then you keep Eberfalust and you're in a worse situation now. So I do think that. I think they're in a better situation because kill was better than Justin Fields. I don't disagree with that. Yeah. But if you move on from the quarterback, you should move on from the coach. I agree that we agreed on that. That was my plan. Once they decided to keep them. Yep. And at the time, yeah, decided to keep Iber flu. What ended up happening was you had to settle for, I don't want to use a word second rate, but you had the the real hot offensive coordinators did not want to go to Chicago to a guy that was on the hot seat and have to move immediately. Because I know that Bears fans feel a certain type of way about Shane Waldron, but I don't think Shane Waldron's a horrible coach. Like he's a decent

coach, but he's the only coach they could get because as you said, PFT, no one wants to come in and be the hot seat to the hot seat right right soon as things go wrong This is why I wanted Harbaugh in the in the reports are true The problem now the Bears have is that Ryan Poles has basically been kneecapped with all his decision-making Because Kevin Warren is running the show and it's like now it's really stupid and that's exactly what me and PFT We're just talking about after you know the werewolf game. It's well now Who was going around doing all the talking this off season? Right? It was pissed off Ryan Poles. Right? All right now It's Kevin. It's Kevin Warren. I know it's stupid. So now you're saying to yourself. Okay. Now is Ryan Poles in the doghouse?

Yeah, like he is he should I I honestly hope Ryan Poles He would never do this because there's only 32 of these jobs. But like if he has a strong candidate for the head coach and then Kevin Warren vetoes it, Ryan Poles should just quit. I don't think he would, but I would love to see it just being like, you guys aren't letting me do my job. I'm not going to be here because you're, because Ryan Poles knows Eberfluss is gone. Yeah. They're going to hire a new coach. He'll get at least two or three years. Who's the next on the chopping block? Ryan Poles. Exactly. And it's a never-ending cycle. Correct. You're just constantly cannibalizing yourself. And when I look at Ryan Poles, I had a former teammate call me from my time in Washington when I made the statement about

Caleb Williams pulling an Eli to use it as leverage to get the Bears to make a decision. And I thought a public decision, as we mentioned before, was important. I think that stuff matters. I think what happened with me in Washington, I think if there were more public statements from the organization, it wouldn't have stopped at all, but it could have damn sure slowed some of that stuff down. Yeah, because when you don't get those public statements, then you start to create your own fan fiction about what could be going on.

Thank you. And there's all these conflicting narratives about like who's talking to who, who's not talking to who. They're talking to the fourth string tied in and he's putting a story out and they're like well we verified it. It's like okay you got the fourth string tied in and the fourth string linebacker verify a story. Yeah. And it just becomes a constant problem. So now I look at it I'm like for Ryan Poles he should still be the one that is out front, making the decisions and talking to the media. Otherwise, it just looks like

you said, like he got handy. Yeah, yeah. But the question after you because who do you think should be the next coach? Who? So now who do you want to be the coach? So I think knowing the Bears history, the only way that I'm going to totally buy in on the fact that they've changed anything is if it's Ben Johnson if it's Mike Vrabel or somehow some way Kyle Shanahan, okay, if it's not those three guys It's the same old bears. Okay, because Ben Johnson would they probably have to drop a bag for drop a big bag And they don't want to do that. They're not comfortable. They're cheap Kyle Shanahan similar would have to drop bag

Maybe draft picks and Mike Vrabel would be a personality That they have not wanted in that building for a very long time where they don't want an alpha who is like This is my this is my system. This is my program Kevin Warren go sit in the fucking locker You know go sit in the toilet and let me run the show if they don't pick those three guys It's gonna be the same thing. They're gonna pick an offensive coordinator Who's you know, Liam Cohen, who I think is great for the bucks, who won 10 games in Kentucky, they'll pick him, but they won't give him any power and Ryan Poles won't have power.

And the whole team will just be the same. I can see. Okay. Let's talk about the three you mentioned. Yeah. So first, uh, Ben Johnson. Yeah. He didn't leave Detroit last year, uh, talk to Amon Ras A. Brown because they felt like

they had unfinished business. Yep. I think they're on the path to try to go finish some of that business that they had. Why would he come to Chicago? Caleb Williams. I understand that. That's it. That's the only ticket.

That's the golden ticket. I know. I know. It's basically that's why Caleb Williams, unfortunately for Caleb Williams, he has so much on his shoulders now because he is the golden ticket because everything else is a mess and I admit that. And I see it, Caleb Williams, it's gonna be a coach. If it's Ben Johnson, he's gonna be like,

Caleb Williams is such a talent that I think I can make this work. And I think it's an attractive job as well because of the skill guys that they have around. You come in, you build up the offensive line, you improve the defense, but you have Caleb Williams. You have Roma Dunze, you have DJ Moore. The roster isn't so bad.

It's not a bad roster. It just, on a personal level, if you're Ben Johnson though, if you're the kind of guy that would turn down a head coaching job, there are very few coaches, how many were there last year, seven, eight? Yeah. It's rare that it comes up, and it's rare that you're a hot name, right?

So last year, if you're talking about striking while the iron was hot, he should have done the iron was pretty hot last year. And he said he had unfinished business with a team he cares so deeply about and a staff he cares so deeply about. He's willing to turn down a raise of I'm going to guess $10 million a year or more minimum to go back to Detroit. To me, that does not seem like the kind of guy that would want to go coach a team in

the division against that same team of brothers that he had twice a year. Right? Exactly. And you're right. It's like you mentioned about Ryan Poles, there's only 32 GM jobs. Like to just walk away from one is very rare. It's not. So you shouldn't do it.

It would be, I would think higher. Oh yeah. No, he would be the man for doing that. He would put his foot down and that would be an awesome move. That would be a full circle moment. Hey, Caleb should pull an Eli and then Ryan, but uh, I think to your point, I agree that it's, it's difficult to see him coming to Chicago. Yeah, I agree. But listen, it's, it's, it's whether or not if he sees something in Caleb Williams that he doesn't see in any of the other job openings, that's our only chance. Agreed. Now, it will be great. Now you who's the next one? Kyle Shanahan.

That's a pipe dream. But they have to have to trade for him because trade for more if he resigns something. I don't know. I will say this, Kyle. You know, we I don't want to say we work together. I don't want to misrepresent it Okay, but he does a thing called the quarterback collective or he used to and they've been working with With Caleb since he was in junior high school. Yeah, so Kyle knows Caleb. He knows him really well He's coached him before in the off seasons. I don't think that he would shy away from that but it's again It's the structure. Yeah to me You almost have to go get someone that no one is expecting. Right. Which is a bad thing because that's what they always do. What are you saying? Like,

in a good way, who was the third person you mentioned? Uh, Mike Vrabel. Mike. Yeah. My, I, but they'll never hire someone who is bigger than the organization who has an alpha personality. He scares. I love Mike. I love Mike Vrabel. I want Mike Vrabel. He George McCasky is a meek man who does not like football So he's like he you can't have and Kevin Warren is the same So I think Mike Vrabel wouldn't fit they wouldn't want Mike Vrabel in the building, which is crazy Yeah, he's a great coach wasn't one of the things that got Mike out of Tennessee the fact that he was like such a big Oh, that was a big strong intimidating man. He's a big strong intimidating man. During the interview process, the owners got intimidated by real football guys.

I would love to play for a guy like Mike Vrabel. I think Ryan Tannehill enjoyed playing for him. I think obviously Will Compton here at Barstool enjoyed playing for him, Taylor Luan. I agree with you though. When you bring Mike Vrabel in, Mike Vrabel is not going to say, hey, Kevin Warren, I'm going to answer to you. Yeah. Right. Hey, Ryan Poles, I'm going to answer to you. He's coming in there and he wants to, he's going to be the alpha dog. Even if you don't give him full control, you're still going to feel like he has full control. What about Belichick?

Man, honestly, in terms of for the podcast, no, I, I, well, I don't want it'd be great. I don't want Belichick in the fact that I think Belichick is 72 years old. I want to coach that. And this is all wishful thinking is potentially going to be coaching for the bears for the next five, 10 years. Cause you're going to want to have him have relationship with Cale Williams and Cale Williams. Hopefully be here for a very long time.

Is Belichick going to coach into his eighties? Belichick seems more like a guy who's ready to go for a team that's like ready to win in the next like two years. Here's my two suggestions. And these are off the wall, you know, out of the box thinking, I think you have to bring in someone

that knows Caleb Williams. And I know that people have talked about- Don't you, Cliff. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't say Lincoln Riley. Don't say Lincoln Riley. Wait, wait.

Don't say Lincoln Riley. Cliff. wait. Don't take Cliff from me. Don't say Lincoln Riley. Cliff. No, don't take Cliff from me. Wait, I will start with Cliff. I've heard rumors that there's some interest there for Cliff to become the head coach. There's not, I'm gonna pour some cold water on that.

There's no interest per me. I don't think that Cliff would go to that job personally. For Lincoln Riley, it hasn't worked out the way they want it to at USC. I don't believe that Lincoln would succeed in Chicago as the head coach. But if he wanted to come to the NFL and be with the quarterback that he won a Heisman Trophy with, you make him the offensive coordinator. That would be fine with me. I don't know if he would do that.

I don't know if he would either. He's making a boatload of money at USC. Whoever is working with Caleb doesn't need to be someone that comes in and tries to, hey, let's change what he is. Let's change what he does. They need to know him. That was a big reason why I thought Caleb

should want to go to Washington because he had Cliff there who knew how he is and I think we would all believe that Caleb would have started faster this year if he had Cliff Kingsbury as his offensive coordinator. For sure. Right? So that to me would be an out-of-the-box, bring Cliff as the head, but I think Lincoln Riley, there's something there of maybe bringing in him or a coordinator that Caleb worked with so they can help him continue to grow, at a head coach spot until they really iron out the structure right I don't see why any top coach would pick the Bears outside of

you get Caleb and you got all these weapons on off does this give you like PTSD like even talking about the Bears seeing it and being like yeah I know all the how all this works because I was basically in the same situation. It doesn't give me PTSD, it's just I care too much. Yeah. Like, I talk to PFT every now and then, you know, and I talk about the commanders and I talk about, it's not about what I went through, I talk about Lamar

and I talk about my process of being a mentor for him. I just care too much, guys. I had a coach tell me that once, it was Jay Gruden. He just told me, hey man, you need a mentor for him. I just care too much, guys. I had a coach tell me that once. It was Jay Gruden. He just told me, hey man, you need a hobby or something. Go play some golf. You care too much about winning. You care too much about winning in the weight room,

winning in the film room, winning on the field. You need to loosen up. When I see these quarterbacks get thrown in these situations, a lot of guys, there's one, I can't remember, he's always on Pat McAfee's show, former GM, and he was like trying to take some stabs at me and say that I always look at it from a player's perspective.

Well, if you're a player and you come in and you've got a shitty organization and they're not helping you succeed, like a Baker Mayfield going to Cleveland, and now you look at him in Tampa and he's a 40 million dollar quarterback You get Sam Dardell with the Jets. Well, also you're the Vikings and he's winning their 10 and 2 Yeah

Your intensity when it came to like you were very public right when you got to the NFL about you want to take on a leadership Role you were encouraging guys to do like go above and beyond Correct asking everybody like no yet. No, you're why and all that stuff I feel like was great when we were winning. Correct. And then once things go poorly, then it's like this guy just won't shut the fuck up sometimes. And they want to poke holes in everything you do. So when it's know your why and I ask 50 of my teammates on Twitter, because it was Twitter at the time, what is, what's your why? And they're all responding back. It's like all this is the greatest thing since sliced bread We went ten and six we won the division. We're winning all these awards all these accolades

But then the next year you go four and twelve and now when you say no you're why at The the tendency is to say that's why they're not successful, right? Yeah, as I will well we were successful Yeah, it was pretty good guys liked it. It was the same thing Yeah, when when cam Newton wins a game and he puts on the crazy outfit. You guys liked it before. It was the same thing. It's like when Cam Newton wins a game and he puts on the crazy outfit, that guy looks awesome. And he loses a game, it's like, why is he wearing a peacock on his neck?

Exactly, and like we understand as players, like now at 34, I understand the ebbs and flows of that. You don't take it personally as a player anymore because you understand that when you're winning, everything is fine. Yeah. So what does it look like from a player's perspective going into an organization that is in disarray, chaos, mismanaged?

Like what are the actual day-to-day things that make your life harder as a player? Yeah, I mean for... I'm sure Caleb comes to Chicago, he realizes that the fan base is phenomenal, right? Like I'm not mad at the Bears fan base. I don't... Well no, you're right. It wasn't... It's fine to be right base. I don't... No, you're right. It wasn't... It's fine to be right, but I don't do it to be right. I'm trying to educate you with my own opinion.

So Caleb comes here, he's probably like, oh, I'm going to be the guy. I'm going to throw for 4,000 yards. I'm going to be the franchise QB. So when you get here at first, you don't have a focus of, hey, what's going on with Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles and what's going on with the McCaskys? You just come in and you do your job, you're trying to win over your locker room. And I was a little bothered by the fact that even before Caleb got to the locker room, there were people in the locker room saying, hey, he can't come up in here being Hollywood. Yeah, no, they love Justin Fields.

They love Justin Fields. I'm like, yo, what is going on? Yeah, DJ Moore liked Justin Fields, and he's a loyal guy. And so they were still upset after they dealt him away. So he's like, I really miss Justin. You know, I'm not going to move on like that. And like, I respect that from the players. It's just the organization clearly didn't care.

Right? And they said, we're going in this direction. We don't care what you think. So when you step into that environment, you're just trying to win them over. I think Caleb has won them over over the past three weeks. Yeah, I agree. I think before that they were sitting there like, bro, we should probably still have Justin. And I don't know if that's necessarily right or not,

but as a player, you walk in, you don't understand the layers of it till years go by. It took me to go to Cleveland. I went from dysfunction in Washington to dysfunction in Cleveland. Then I was out for a year. Then I was blessed with the opportunity to go play in Baltimore. And that that organization the way they run it Mr. Baschati at the

top you got Eric de Costa we had Ozzy was the GM my first year there and then Eric de Costa took over you got John Harbaugh the way they structure that organization is how it's supposed to be yeah and that's where I think players don't understand damn why why did I come into this league? This whatever all-star Boletnik off whatever you win and you get to a team and it's like why am I not being used the same way? I'm why don't why aren't they helping you get in the right position? Why am I not making the same types of plays? It's all about the structure. Yeah, and I think for a quarterback you have a structure that helps you build leadership I don't know if Matt Eberfluss created a structure for Caleb to be a leader in that in that first part of the season

And now he's gone and Caleb's got to do that whole process all over again with a new head coach Yeah, you talked about going to Cleveland wasn't there a story that your car got broken into Like some shit got stolen out of your out of your car. Yes, man You bring him back my car actually got broken into in Cleveland and Baltimore, but it was Cleveland. We were at the game and You know, they they valet the vehicles in Cleveland So you come in boom valet guy takes it out and they had stole like five thousand bucks from my car I stole a Rolex out of the Glove box and then you know, I we kind of like it became public and they actually got mad Like the Browns got mad at me for that and I'm like, well, I'm not the one who broke into my car

Yeah, you know like we got to obviously take care of the players a little bit better But it was just another sign of a dysfunctional organization I even look at Jamis now. Like I think Jamus is a genuine guy. I think that the way he plays the game, he reminds me of Sexy Rexie. Right? Yeah. Also RG3. Yeah. Also RG3. Exactly. He's gonna keep both teams in the game. Yeah. Right? Six touchdowns in the last game. It just so happened that two went the other way and He has become the story there in Cleveland, but it's the sign of a dysfunctional organization. Yeah, they're not winning They're three and nine and the team is excited about a quarterback who is almost

50-50 on touchdowns to interceptions. That's why we love them Yeah, all right, and it's all because of the dysfunction that they created when they signed Deshaun Watson. Yeah, a breath of fresh air. Exactly. So when you see Jameis and you see the speeches and the comments in the post game, like I always wonder like are people laughing more with him or they laughing at him? I just think they're laughing because it's different than what they've been dealing with the turmoil of the whole Deshaun Watson debacle. And Jameis is getting the feed off of that.

So I mean, I laugh with everyone else, I think it's funny, but that's dysfunction. It's a sign of dysfunction. As a player, you don't even know it until you get out of it. Because we're so used to being the man in high school, being the man in college, and then you get to the pros and you realize, well, there's like 16 pro teams that just don't know how to get it done.

Yeah, I've always said that there's just, there's a dozen, 16, whatever you wanna call it, that just, they're not in the business of trying to win a Super Bowl. It doesn't feel like it. They're just trying to, they're basically trying to make money and maybe catch lightning in a bottle where it's like, oh, a draft class was awesome.

Now we're going to the playoffs. How do we sustain it? We don't care. Correct. That's it's the worst. And I'm not, I'm not advocating for the bears to fire Kevin Warren to, I am to to fire Ryan Poles to sell the team. Georgia caskets.

Yes. I'm not doing that. It's just more of have it be clear. Let the football guys make the correct. Yes. Bring the coach in. Yeah. Let him control what he needs to control and stop trying to be the forward facing. I was right. Yeah. Like imagine if the bears were, I don't know, 12 and four right now. Or big cat would definitely would definitely be I'm still waiting for that because everyone still says the kill ones is a bust and I'm he's not I don't think there's a lot Of people that think that but they do but I'm waiting Conversation would be different if the Bears were 12. Oh, of course big cat would be like hey remember when you said this

Yeah, I take a victory line. You take a victory line And and I understand that so when you make a statement, you have to be ready to back it up. So I don't ever make a statement and say to myself, man, I hope this, I hope this doesn't work out. I wanted you to be able to have a victory lap against me because I want Caleb Williams to be successful and I want the Bears to have a great team. But until they make the changes that they need to make, it's going to be this never ending cycle. And I don't wanna see you guys ruin Caleb Williams. I got a question that's different than just the Bears. Did Paul Feinbaum get you fired?

Wow, that is a heavy one. I don't think he actually did. I don't think he did. I have no proof of that. What I do know is that when I'm on TV with somebody, I just feel like there's a way to tell stories the right way. And there's a way to cover the athletes the right way. And I didn't feel like at times, and I think there's like two instances when I was on first take with Paul, that he was taking care of their stories the right way.

And like I wouldn't come to you and be like, we can disagree. Right. I'm not going to say big cats of fraud. Right. That's a, that's a strong term. Right. I'm not going to say that PFT is irrelevant. Right. Like that's, that's a personal personal, right? You know, debating and having friendly debate back and forth. Like that's what sports, that's what makes sports great. That's what we like to do. You were right. I was wrong. Like it's okay. I didn't care. Right. So, so how was it though? I mean, like when you got fired from ESPN, that sucked. Uh, it feels like you're thriving right now, but when it first happened, were you like, shit, what the hell was that?

Well, I first have to say I was not fired. Okay not fired. I was laid off. Laid off sorry. There's a difference. There's a difference and I should say that. And I am getting paid. Love that. Love that.

While I'm off so. That's awesome. The first reaction was why. Alright so you go through the process of why did this happen. Okay let me look at performance. Alright they are saying it's not performance based. They put me on Monday night countdown. Bless me look at performance. All right, they say and it's not performance base. They put me on Monday night countdown. Bless me with that opportunity. I was very thankful to be on the show with Susie Culber, Steve Young, you know, one of the greats.

Susie's one of the greats as a host. We had booger on the show, Adam Schefter, and that was an iconic crew. Maybe they were pissed off that you beat the bird. Oh yeah, maybe they were. Maybe they showed up the bird. I can give you the story about the bird. But for me it was more of a, they put me on here for a reason.

I was a younger guy. Everyone else on the set was a little older. They wanted to hit the younger demographic, just like everyone is trying to do right now when it comes to content creation. And we accomplished that. The show was a success. Then we changed the show.

Now it's me, Ryan Clark, Scott Van Pelt, Marcus Spears. And you go on that show and the ratings stay the same. So then they bring Jason Kelsey in and it's like, well, we should be on this thing together, having a good time, two great personalities. I love Jason, I think he's a phenomenal dude. I know he's had some run-ins with some stuff here. We took his side.

Here recently. We took his side tonight. When I looked at it from that point is like okay. It's not performance-based They're telling me it's not performance-based, and what is it about and I don't know it sucks But what I can do is I can sit here And I can twiddle my thumbs for three four months five months and try to figure out well Why did this happen? I can just go move on and have fun enjoy the process We had the podcast out of of Pocket with RG3, and my wife is a co-host on that.

And we've had some great conversations with people. And- You guys are crushing it. It feels like every other day, you're sitting with someone, some big, you know, name or whatever stories, like at the top right now. And it's fun. You know what I mean?

You sit down with Deon, Shalon Chaudhuri, Dana White, sit down with Reggie Bush and talk about him getting his Heisman back. You know, we had a chance to sit down with, and have a conversation with the guy, Mike Norvell at Florida State. When they're not doing very good right now. I know you guys, you would rather do the interviews with the people who are having a good time.

As opposed to people who are going through some things. And that was a, it was a tough one to navigate, but it's been a fun process for me. And I got some stuff in the works that's's gonna be coming up here in the next couple weeks And I'm blessed to be a part of those opportunities But you just don't want to sit on your hands and feel sorry for you. So yeah good for you You know, I bet you it probably feels good to know that you like you kind of control your own destiny Correct and and it's you know like legacy media as far as like the the ESPNs the Foxes, the NBCs, the CBSs, and then the new age media, Amazon and Netflix,

like I'm open and excited about all those opportunities, but I wasn't just gonna sit at the house and be mad about something. It's like they decided to go in a certain direction and you just find a way to be the best version of yourself that you can be. That guy stinks if they didn't tell you why though. Yeah. That would've been nice.

Or maybe it wouldn't. I don't know. It would bother me. I think, I think it would be nice. I think everyone wants, you want to know. Right. When they tell you what it wasn't, you're like, oh yeah, cool, sweet. No, you're great.

Everything was awesome. And then it's like, but what was it? You're a big boy, just be honest. What was it? And you didn't And I didn't get that answer. And at this point, shoot, what? Four months past that? I'm not asking for the answer anymore. I don't need it.

I don't need it anymore. It's like you said, we're thriving, we're having a good time, being able to connect with the fans in a different way. That's great. And then when we get back to legacy media, like I'm not gonna lie to you, the thing I miss most is calling games.

I miss calling games. three hours to talk to the fans have a good time crack jokes educate them I miss that and I look forward to getting back to that whether it's college football NFL or both yeah really good things can happen when ESPN lets you go yeah we know from we know from experience what experience are you guys talking about we had a hit show at ESPN was it was it was it called bar stool Vantana? Yes. Yes so I think you came to the same realization that we did in that it sucks, but if People like you and what you're putting out there

You can give it to them by yourself and it's awesome and people will love it and then guess what you don't have someone looking Over your shoulder being like oh don't do that. Don't do that. I'll answer that and I'll get to that that eagle the other For me When you do this, there's no like podcasting. It's it's your views likes comments Hey, what are they like you kind of move in that direction of what you're comfortable doing, right? I'm not gonna go be an only fans model.. That's just not what I wanna do with my life. You kinda tabbed on it. Yeah, you did.

The croissant picture. I think you like it. Hey, the internet's gonna internet cause the croissant picture, they took that bad boy and ran with it. It's a very good meme. It's a solid meme. It is a solid meme.

I was told today that I'm in the internet hall of fame because of that meme. I love that. But the reception that I got after the news broke and I cracked the joke about Friday and then I posted the basically farewell from ESPN and I miss my colleagues and the people behind the camera and the teams that I got to work with.

The reception from the fans let me know, hey, you did it the right way. Yeah right. It wasn't like thank God that guy's gone and you're like that makes you feel like you should keep going and keep doing it. And if this were the 1980s or the 1990s if you get let go from ESPN then you're like oh shit what what do I do? What do I do? There's not really a lot of options for you at the point but now it's like yes you have literally every option is available and whatever you want to do you're gonna be good. So yeah tell me about the bird. Yeah, so funny

It was a funny story because when I first got put on Monday night countdown They told me that hey, you're gonna be replacing Randy Moss and I'm like I don't know if I want to do that guys like Randy Moss is a legend straight cash homie He Randy Moss was actually the person that got me on Monday night countdown in the first place Oh, wow I was going I was at ESPN my first year, 2021, and I was going there to read the Heisman finalists. That's it. Hey, a Heisman finalist has to do it, we need you on the show.

I read it, it's in Buffalo, it's the coldest game I've ever been to in my life, and I didn't have a jacket. Because in Buffalo, if it says it's, you know, 45 degrees, it's really not 45 degrees. Yeah. Okay, it more feels like it's 15 degrees and Randy stopped me in the truck and said do you want to do come on man no it wasn't come on my knees do you want to do you got mossed so then the producers like yeah I mean Randy if you want him in there we'll put him in there I'm like yeah sure I'll do you got mossed that was my first hit on Monday night countdown next thing I know I'm like, yeah, sure. I'll do it. You got mossed. That was my first hit on Monday Night Countdown.

Next thing I know, I'm on Monday Night Countdown the next year. And it was because Randy wanted to move to Sunday Countdown. So it wasn't that I was replacing him there. He didn't want to travel anymore. And I know we see some of the health things that he's talked about, he's going through. I kind of understand why he wanted to make that transition. So when they bring me on, they're trying to find something mm-hmm we need to liven up the show I get on and it's the Seahawks game and I'm like they're like

hey what do you think we can do I thought about it for a couple weeks and I came back to the producer and his name was a Greg Shapiro and I said why don't I just race the hawk? What do you mean race the hawk? You can't beat a hawk in a race. I'm like, I think I could beat him in a race. So I didn't tell anyone on the production side why I thought I could win the race. But then when I ran, I beat the hawk.

Yeah, you did. And Booger was like, rubbing me saying I didn't win, so then we did it again the following year. And I blew him out even worse this time because I had football cleats on. Did you do your research ahead of time? I did my research ahead of time. What kind of bird is it? Is it an osprey? No, no, it's the fact that the type of hawk that it was because seahawks don't exist by the way. Yeah, it's just a hawk Yep, so they can fly up to 120 miles per hour

When they're hunting and they're going down when they're going down into the water and they're hunting they fly at 120 miles per hour But they don't fly that fast when they're just Gliding so they made me have to take off when the Hawk took off because I raced it first before they aired it and blew It out by like 25 yards So I had to run again and they made me take off when he did so he could actually have a chance to Beat me and I beat him the first time and then obviously blew him out the second time but there's there's no I always tell people don't be afraid to try new things just do your research yeah I knew he wasn't going to beat me in that race they didn't and the person at home certainly didn't know it's just rg3 just beat a wild animal

and go 120 miles an hour yeah first time it's like, this Hawk doesn't know it's in a race. The second time the Hawk fucking knew. Oh it knew. The Hawk was embarrassed. Yeah, and the handler was so mad because the first year when I beat it, he was like, we're gonna race again and he's gonna be ready.

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and use promo code AWL for free delivery. And now here's more RG3. I want to talk to you about something that's happened just recently. Trevor Lawrence. Yes. So it's kind of another dysfunctional franchise with Jaguars. But he got hit when he was sliding. Took a shot to the head, pretty nasty, bounced his head off the ground. Pretty bad concussion.

Then they suspended the guy that hit him. Three games. I've been watching a lot of clips of quarterback sliding and I don't think that you're a sliding expert. You never really- I'm not. You did not like to slide and I don't think that you're a sliding expert. I'm not. You did not like to slide. I didn't know how to slide. Yeah. Did they ever do the thing where they bring in like the slip and slide?

They have Nationals players teach it? There was a rumor that they did that, but that never happened. So that's how dysfunctional Washington was. Correct. Where to address questions about the quarterback sliding, they just planted a rumor in the press. And then made it seem like I turned it down. Yeah. It never happened. That's crazy.

So, uh, but in watching all these clips, it dawned on me when a quarterback slides, they're actually putting themselves in a pretty bad position to get a concussion. So you can avoid a lot of hits if you slide, obviously, and you can declare yourself down and you won't take those big shots in the open field. But when you slide, you're putting your head right at ground level to get bounced off the ground if they contact you at all With Trevor Lawrence, I'm not blaming Trevor Lawrence for this by the way

He gave himself up in advance and I think most defenders would have pulled up at that point But it's like a bang bang play and you have to make a decision as defender at the last second whether or not you need To pull up. Yeah, but what are your thoughts on quarterback slides? Yeah I mean it's a lot. I will say in Trevor Lawrence is a specific example. I've had two concussions from that same exact thing. In Washington we were playing the Atlanta Falcons and Sean Weatherspoon did the same thing to me. I was sliding you know near the sideline last second slide even later then because I don't think Trevor slid late. I think his was just, you know,

the guy formed in the face. But I did slide late with a spoon, hit me, bounced my head off the ground, I was out for the rest of the game. In college, I was playing against Texas Tech in Jerry's World, running towards the sideline, slid, boom, got my head bounced off the ground. In college, that probably, that situation

that Trevor just went through happened to me at least six times. And this is 2011, right? Defenders are trying to get as many licks as they can on the quarterback. So when they see you slide, they're gonna try to give you something. I'm not saying that they're trying to put you out the game,

but they're trying to give you something to prevent you from thinking it's sweet, right right they want you to know that it's sour when I hear quarterbacks Talk about sliding who were not mobile guys They don't have as many opportunities to be put in those positions Whereas Jaden Daniels Caleb Williams Trevor Lawrence Ky Lawrence, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, these guys are being put in these situations five, 10, 15 times a game.

So my belief is yes, sliding is a mechanism to protect the quarterback. You don't take sliding out of the game, but I can also understand from a defensive side why they get mad when Patrick Mahomes does a fake slide, or when Kenny Pickett had the infamous fake slide in college that I was on the call for. I was awesome. I thought it was awesome. It looked cool. But

from a defensive perspective, they're saying, well, I'm not supposed to hit the guy. Right. I don't think that there's a perfect solution to it. But I think everyone in their right mind would agree that what Aziz Al-Shahir did was wrong. Trevor Lawrence did not slide late. He clearly went after his head once he went for that slide. That shouldn't happen anymore. But we do have to, I think we might have to start penalizing quarterbacks for fake slides.

Oh man, imagine a Chiefs game getting decided by Patrick Holmes fake slide. That they don't call? Because I'll tell you the technique that Lamar has Lamar doesn't slide uh maybe he's slid in twice in his entire career he just he attacks the the the knees of the defender I heard Rex Ryan talk about attacking their ankles if you attack their ankles they're going to hit you in the face with their knee Lamar when he runs and he knows he wants to get down to avoid the hit he goes after their legs Because what do they do they move? Yeah, right? So now they don't have any power to hit you and they're not they're thinking more about self-preservation

Than they're about how can I get this lick on the quarterback? But like I said, there's no perfect solution to it. But damn man, we we gotta be able to see a play and yeah Yeah, there's no two sides to that. It was wrong. And I think he got suspended three games because of what happened after the hit. Yeah. Not partially. You know what I mean? Sportsmanship they're talking about and him, he got in like two fights after that and was like cussing out the fans. That's why he got suspended three games. Yeah. Not just the hit. Mac Jones used to go in with his, his cleats up and just kick in the dick. Remember that? He kicked like three guys in their penis

yeah he did yeah that's a way to do it smart play yeah they're meat huntin all right so NFL we're getting into December winning time yep how many teams can win the Super Bowl one hey but how many good answer how many teams right now do you think are Super Bowl like let me put my phrase it better way because that's a bad question how many teams would it not shock you if they think our Super Bowl, like, let me phrase it a better way, because that's a bad question. How many teams would it not shock you if they won the Super Bowl? It would not, I mean, I still think that

even though the Chiefs are... Yeah, no, I agree. I still think that they're, as long as they've got those, the core fours, I call them, Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelsey, and Chris Jones, they're top of the list. I think the Chiefs, I could see the Chiefs win it, I could see the Packers, I could see the Lions, I could see the Eagles.

Who are the- Bill's, Ravens? I can see the Bills, the Ravens to me are a dangerous team because it looks like they're not gonna win their division, but then if they get in the wild card, I don't think anyone wants to play. No. I don't think they wanna play the Ravens. What about the Steelers?

I think the Steelers have a chance to win it too. And I said that- Really? I said that in the off season when they got Russell and everyone's like, oh yeah, no possible way. So again, I was right. Yeah. But for the Steelers, it's more about if Russell plays like he did against the Bengals? Yeah.

Oh my God. Yeah. They can go score 44 points? Yeah. This is the, it's a cliche answer, but any team could, I could see Washington winning the Super Bowl. I don't know. This year?

I could see them winning the Super Bowl because it's so up in the air right now, especially with the Lions. I know we're gonna talk about this when we're watching the stream, but the Lions are so beat up on defense. I know. And they're the best team in the league,

in my opinion right now, but every team at the top is vulnerable. The Eagles are slow starters. The Bills how many times are they gonna allow Josh Allen to drop back 17 times and score 35 points like at some point he is gonna have to be Superman and that will really test his decision making so all these teams are so vulnerable I could see a team like Washington sneaking in he go P watching on defensive I know we're getting Lattimore which is a nice little addition.

And he's going to be playing against the Saints next week. He's gargling that corner. Yeah, been pretty tough at cornerback. But the defense just, and the offense, and the inconsistency that they've had in the last four weeks. To me, it's all about, actually the same thing with Pittsburgh. You talked about Russell Wilson. But I feel like the Steelers are that one team

that you can tell if they're going to win based on how fast Najee Harris looks on his first carry. If he, if he looks good and they're able to establish the run, then everything opens up for him. But there are some games where Najee goes out there and it's like, is this fat Najee that we have this week? Like I'm not saying that he's fat, but I'm saying he's like he doesn't have he runs like he's fat sometimes Yeah, he's not you get slow nausea you get fast nausea if you get fast nausea Harris Then I feel like the Steelers they can beat anybody now. Why is that? It's a rhetorical question, but why is that the case for the Steelers?

It's because that's exactly how Russell Wilson won his Super Bowl in Seattle, right? Yeah beast mode Yeah, but they put the Steelers are playing great defense right now They had the Legion of boom on the other side Yeah, right so you're putting Russell in a very familiar situation Where now he can drop back and throw those moon balls, and they're not all off play action Some of them are dropped back some of her him scrambling. He looks he looks so much younger He looks five years younger than he did last year in Denver Yeah

He does so for to put him in that situation with a Naji Harris and to have that running back group rolling in the offensive line rolling, that's why they're in the position they are. And let's be honest Mike Tomlin, he's the best. He's definitely in the running for a coach of the year. He's the best. Yeah and I appreciate you saying that the Commanders can do it. I'm not letting myself believe that yet because I'm just thinking our goal is the playoffs. If we make the playoffs then that's great. Then anything can happen. Anything can happen. Look at the Ravens in was it 2013, was it 2012 when Joe Flacco had it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anything can happen. Yeah, when he had his magical run. No interceptions. Anything can happen. I think it was 13 touchdowns, no picks. Anything can happen once you get in the dance and I think that the reason I feel that mostly is because the Chiefs Yeah, they look vulnerable right now and the other teams that are at the top also look vulnerable, right? So it could be anybody's game Right. I just I Won't allow myself to take the compliment. I will try to accept charges See charges charges Again, they're playing top five defense

Justin Herbert hasn't had to be Superman all year. Really. I think that bodes well for them because he's not going to go into the playoffs banged up. Everyone wants to say, oh, the Chargers can't win any playoffs games. Oh, Justin Herbert's all he's, he's statting, you know, he's stat padding and doing all this stuff. It's like, no, the man's been being Superman for 17 weeks. and then when he does get to the playoffs he's tired he's banged up he's got an ankle injury he's got a rib injury you know he's got a hairline fracture in his collarbone or something right now he doesn't have that now now they're actually they just what they just won 17 to 13 you know they're not having to win putting up 39 points like they were with Brandon Staley right yeah so we should talk about the croissant picture let Let's do it in full. Let's do it.

Can just walk me through it when you posted it, where you're like, yeah, people are going to love this and not think it's a giant dick in my mouth. Cause this, this happened after we had you on in the Superbowl, right? Yeah. Yeah. This is true. Was that the, uh, was that the Olympics? Yes. So, yeah, so yeah, we haven't seen you since we're at the Olympics. Yeah. And Paris, we find out in Paris that they have these giant croissants. So I'm like, hey, we got to go get one of these things. Actually, TikTok actually worked with us

to get us the giant croissants and create content with them at their headquarters in France. So that was an incredible experience with me and my wife. Shout out to TikTok for doing that for us. But then when we got the croissant back at home, I'm like, we have to take a picture eating this croissant. So here's, you guys have had a situation

where your wife kinda, or your lady friend threw you under the bus a little bit. I'm not blaming my wife for saying that she threw me under the bus. What I'm saying is that when we took the picture, we were both supposed to be eating it the way that I was eating that. And she didn't do that.

And then she posted it on Instagram with a zoom in. On you. On me. So she did what she was doing. You went all in on that croissant. So she kinda set the motion, set everything in motion.

I think she's a wonderful woman. I would never say anything bad about her. I'm going to take her side in this argument. RG3, what about me stand up for her? I appreciate you saying that, PFT. And she knows it because she did it all purpose. She took the picture. It was the blank picture.

And then it was three frames. And the second one was zoomed in. And the third one was zoomed in even more. So then when I posted it on Twitter, I got all the zoomed in pictures from Instagram that came over. And in like 10 minutes, it was like, yeah, this is going to be a long day. Yeah. So, so she didn't go all in on, on eating the croissant. You did, but how do you explain you were cupping the croissants balls?

I was not. Yeah, you were. No, I was. You were, you were caressing the croissant balls. Do you know, do you know when you, when you grab a croissant, like if the croissant was a, was a double hander on the side You might have been in the croissant. I'd have been able to grab it like that. The croissant was so big Yeah, I had no choice. He's got he's cupping the balls. I am NOT

Support like no choice but to have the hand underneath because I'm stronger You got one hand I did not to have the hand underneath because I'm stronger. You got one hand. I did not get, and then one hand underneath. I think you might even have a finger in the croissants. I do not. I, I stand 10 toes down that that did not happen. This is not what happened and went down, but what was super heavy. And what I like about you are G3. Cause I feel like you, you are, you have fun online and you know that it's supposed to be fun because some people would post that picture be like oh shit I don't want that out there it's like let's have a fucking laugh yeah I sucked off a croissant. I definitely didn't do that and that was not the purpose that was not the purpose of posting the croissant picture but I think to your point you have to be able to have fun in a way that people can relate to. When you see that picture of me eating the croissant, I saw Josh Hart, the guard or forward for the Knicks.

He said, Jesus himself could not get me to post this picture. But guess what? He's engaging with the picture because he understands that it's funny. He understands that you have to have a sense of humor in life. And I think for me, the internet took it and went with it. The way I captioned it wasn't like, hey, watch me eat this giant croissant that looks like whatever. It was enjoying a croissant with my wife.

The internet will always internet. There's been times that I've said things in games that I never anticipated would go viral. And they go viral. And then there's times when you're in a game and you know you have a one-liner and You you hit it and you're like, hmm, I knocked that out the park and it's nowhere Mm-hmm

And you're like, you don't know what people are going to gravitate towards You don't know what they're going to grab ahold of but at the end of the day you have to be willing to laugh at yourself So there was a time not a lot more than that first hour and it was going like a you know ballistic Yeah, there was a there was some people that thought like hey maybe we should maybe we should take the take it down and it's like nah man the internet's gonna do what the internet's gonna do. I'm not at fault for them taking it and making it whatever. It's a croissant. I'm eating I can't eat pastries now. Yeah. And you just have fun you laugh it off and you move on. And you

realize that there's a separation between the internet and real life too. Correct. It's like the internet and real life too. Correct. It's like the internet, they're gonna make jokes and we can laugh about the internet making jokes. The people that spend more time inside the internet where that becomes the biggest part of their life, they're the people that are like, I can't have this on there.

Right. It makes my whole life worse because I spend my whole life online. And I don't see it. Like, I think on Instagram, I have a couple videos where I was explaining because it happened, I'm like, videos where I was explaining because like it happened I'm like, well, I gotta like address this. Yeah, so then I when you couple croissants balls, you have to talk about definitely didn't do that

You are committed to talk about It's me eating a croissant, okay, okay Yeah, so there's a video on Instagram of me explaining it and like if you go to the comments, it's like 15,000 pictures of the croissant And like what are you gonna do? Are you gonna go through and do? Comment are you gonna just laugh about it and move on like it would be funnier if you like every day put a video online Explaining more about how actually that croissant picture is not dirty video online explaining more about how actually that croissant picture is not dirty. Like just double, triple, quadruple down. You guys gotta stop with this

fucking croissant. You guys are the perverts. Yeah and honestly I mean it's the truth. It's like hey how you view something is how you view it. If you can't laugh at yourself man, then what are you really doing? You can't laugh at yourself or laugh at a moment and move on from it and not be bogged down by it in your own mind And then it doesn't matter so I don't worry about it. It was it was a it was fun It went galactical and you move on. Yeah. Yeah. Um, alright I got one last question for you. This is an awesome RG 3 if people haven't seen we basically he's been here all day He's gonna be on the pro football show when this comes out. It'll be tonight

He did werewolf with us. He's gonna watch Thursday Night Football us. It's been a whole day with be tonight he did werewolf with us he's gonna watch Thursday night football with us it's been a whole day with RG he did chef Donnie yes did chef Donnie cook some beignets with chef Donnie yeah did chef Donnie oh did the show with chef Donnie some more french pastries yes we did some beignets yeah so rowback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts rowback.. So Heisman is coming up. Yep. You are a Heisman trophy winner. How, how cool is it when you go there and you get to like, like, how does it work? Cause I imagine it's like some back room with like a bunch of books and everyone, you know, sits down and won a Heisman and you guys trade war stories. That's what I want to imagine

But is it like being in a room with everyone that happens at the Heisman house? Okay, so we're with Nissan and we go to Heisman house We got video games in the back and you to sit down with Baker Mayfield and Tim Tebow and Charles Woodson and Desmond That's awesome, and Eddie George and all these guys. Okay was he ever invited who oh, okay? No, I don't think I don't think he was they cancelled. Oh, Jay. I don't want to say that Well, there's a story just came out yesterday. There's bodyguard says that he has a confession from him Oh, I saw that that might have done it. I saw that it wasn't true though Okay, it came out and said that it was the recording was him just talking to himself

Ah was the bodyguard talking to ah, oh, Jay's still innocent Per RG 3. Yeah, I. Was the bodyguard talking to him. Ah! So OJ's still innocent. Per RG3. Yeah. I am leaving that all the way alone. All right, never went to the Heisman house. But he hasn't been there, I haven't seen him there. Okay.

I don't know if he's ever been there, but I have never seen him there. Yeah. But it's a good time, you know, kicking it with the guys, shooting the funny commercials. When you go to the Heisman ceremony, it's more of just, I know some people think that the guys that are on stage,

they go there just so they can be seen, and that's not what it is. They're there to support the next guy that's coming in. And like the Heisman loses its value if the guys who won it before don't welcome the new guy into the fraternity. So it's really cool to go there and see Mike Rozier, right? It's really cool to go there and see Archie Griffin. Guys that I never got to see play, but they believe

so much in the Heisman fraternity that they're willing to come back and welcome the next guy into that. That to me is awesome. So you know ESPN runs the show and I've been a part of that broadcast for the last three years. I'm not gonna be a part of the broadcast, but I'm still gonna go back because it's important to welcome whether it's Travis Hunter Aston Gentry should or Sanders cam ward whoever it is that wins the Heisman. It's important to be there to support them Yeah, that's awesome. I just it's cool. You know, it's a trophy that that still holds meaning, you know, there's not People don't really remember

MVPs very often, you know, I mean like, you know rookie, rookie of the years, like there's, they're obviously great, but Heisman, I don't know, there's something special about it. Yeah, it certainly feels special and it changes your life forever. It's not just the Heisman house, but it's the way that people look at you and other awards, you know,

it's not to speak down on the other awards. They just don't remember. Right. I won, with all due respect, I won the Manning Award when I my last year in college no one says Robert Griffin the third the Manning Award winner right right they say RG 3 the Heisman Trophy winner yeah so there is a certain level of prestige and that goes with all of them it's not just the

Manning Award it's whether it's the Maxwell the bullet nicoff all these other ones the Davey O'Brien, they have value and you appreciate getting the award and being a part of that fraternity. But there's something so much more special about the highs. It really is. So it is it did you when did you first realize that? Like how many years after you won? We were like, Oh, shit. Yeah, I'm a Heisman Trophy winner forever. And they only give out one of these a year.

Yeah, I'm a Heisman Trophy winner forever, and they only give out one of these a year. Honestly, I'm 34, so it's not like I'm 55. And that first check for the Heisman House, I was like, wait, what? Y'all giving out checks like this to come do this commercial? That was a moment of like, oh wow, this is a gift that keeps on giving

because we have guys like an Eddie George who's been removed from the game for 20 years, and he's still getting those types of opportunities due to the Heisman. And I was just at an event doing a speaking engagement and they introduced me as Heisman Trophy winner and like, and you're like, man, you don't understand how much it means to the other people

until you hear it when you're so far removed from it. I remember the moment I could feel my heart beating through my chest when they said that the 2011 Heisman Trophy winner is, I still remember that moment but I don't think I knew it was gonna have this type of impact on my life. Yeah, yeah I mean it's a special award. Do you get upset at all when they do the pose and they don't do the pose correctly? We were talking about that on the't it funny that everyone who does the pose it's literally not the high do the Charles What's I think that there's exactly yeah, or the Desmond Howard? Yeah, Howard There's a Heisman trophy and our Heisman trophy and then there's the Heisman pose and the different things

They're completely and honestly if someone got up and scored a touchdown and did the actual Heisman pose it wouldn't be as not as no people Like what is he doing? What is he doing? Yeah? You got two feet on the ground Yeah, like you're going like this like it's it's not as cool. So actually appreciate it Yeah, you know I think if I think they should give two trophies out give the normal Heisman and then a Bronze sculpture of the guy doing it because almost every Heisman winner has done it at some point in their Heisman season Yeah, because I know I did it at Baylor with my team. Yeah. When did you do it? It was uh, it was early in the season. Oh early. Yeah

Call I at one point we had more touchdowns than incompletions Five games into the year. That's insane So it was after one of those early games and I did it with my offensive lineman. So that was pretty cool Yeah, what was it like being big big man on campus at Waco? Waco is not as big of a city. Yeah, right, but you know, we used to have this this a Student gym called the slick and I used to play basketball there all the time. So in 2008 through 2010

Like 2008 2009. We weren't very good 2010. We got good We beat Texas we were seven and five Everyone's feeling good about themselves because Baylor wasn't winning any games at that point Then in 2011 we went on a run we won ten games and that was wild just walking around campus smaller school Baptist school, you know what I mean? So a lot of different people on campus, but the majority of the student population that was black were on the athletic teams.

It was that type of environment. But it was cool to be there to see the impact and see how Baylor changed. Because when I got to Baylor, we had to drive 25 minutes across town to go work out because our facility and our stadium was not on campus. And then by the time I left,

we had an on-campus workout facility. They were building McLean Stadium, which is what they play in now. Thanks to you. Not just me, but a lot of other people, but I got to see the university change. At one point when I was a freshman, man, I'd go to class, you know those big auditorium classes where you got 500 kids?

And the teachers would be in the class making fun of us. Like making fun of the football team. Like cracking jokes and I'm like, my God. Our coach made us walk around with a shirt that said, I play football for Baylor. Because nobody took pride in it. But by the time in 2010, 2011, now I'm going to these big auditorium classes

and the teachers are praising us. That was a very weird thing to go through. Yeah, that's a cool transformation. It was a great transformation to see. I'm glad you're saying this, but also I know what you said. I remember what you said four years ago. It also must have felt pretty good to just

walking around Texas being like, Austin didn't want me. Mack Brown didn't want me yeah Brown didn't want me yeah you know Mac Brown just unfortunately got fired yeah Jamie you made him quit early this season you think so yeah well he quit he'd know he literally quit I quit for like 24 hours and then he's like psych I'm back oh really yeah so Jamie you broke him I did not know that but Mac Mac never talked to me in recruiting it It was his recruiting coordinator.

And they wanted me to be an athlete. Which means they'll play you at safety, they'll play you at receiver, they'll put you wherever they want you to be. I was a fast track and field guy. So they never gave me an opportunity to play quarterback. Or even be recruited as a quarterback. But after my freshman year at Baylor,

Mack met me at the 50 yard line at UT Stadium and he said, man we really messed up with you didn't we? You can come here anytime you want. So I look at that sometimes and I'm like, man what if we were in the NIL transfer portal days back in 2008? Would I have transferred to Texas? And the answer is no, I wouldn't have. But it's nice to think about and had they offered me

a scholarship to play quarterback, I probably would have went there. Yeah, initially, right? I'll be quite honest with you, I probably would have. It was you and Johnny Manziel. Correct. And I think Mac Brown was like, these guys could play safety for me.

Correct. Yeah, and then Andrew Luck too. They missed on Andrew, missed on myself, Johnny Drabreeze didn't go there. That's crazy. They missed on Jalen Hurts. Wait, you wouldn't have transferred though? I know it's easy to say right now,

but if Texas is like, we're gonna give you six million dollars a year to play football. Yeah, I would go to Baylor and say, give me four. Yeah. Give me four if you can. And I'm not saying, like I did not grow up with money. So the likelihood of a team coming to you when you're an 18 year old and paying you six million bucks,

you're gonna entertain that. The way I look at it is, I love my university and I went there for a reason. Everything worked out for me the way they worked out because I went to Baylor University. So had I gone to Texas, would the Heisman Trophy that we won at Baylor mean as much at Texas? I don't know if it would have.

Yeah, probably not. You know what I mean? So it's, God has a plan of working, making that stuff all work out and it definitely worked out in my favor. Well, RG3, it's been awesome today. Great having you on. Congratulations on being very right again.

I got one last thing for you guys now, okay? Why do you guys sometimes let guys come on the show and just lie? Ooh. Good question. Go on. All right. Mike Silver. Okay. I thought that's where we were going. You knew where we were going. I thought that's where we were going.

I did not know where you were going. All right. So Mike Silver came on the show. This was about a month ago maybe. Yeah. A couple months ago, maybe a month and a half. Yeah. And he told you guys this story about the Cleveland game. Yeah.

When Kirk threw for like 7,000 yards right and like five 16 touchdowns and it was a great game it was like right after hello D nada hit you right after you sprained your MCL so you're out right exactly it was a LCL LCL yeah he messed me up good and he told you a story about how Dan Snyder walked in the locker room and like like damn near trucked Kirk to get to me and ask me if I was okay. Yeah. And then he threw some else something else out there saying that Mike Shanahan and my dad were off in the corner of the locker room my dad was yelling at him saying you need to run these plays with my son.

That reminded me I watched I did watch it I saw the clip, I didn't respond, because I had a feeling we would come on the show and talk. And it's not you guys' fault, right? It is your show, but it's not your fault that he comes on there and he lies about it. But I had this conversation with a teammate of mine who was on the team at that time, and it like, when is a parent ever in the locker room yelling at a coach? When is a... you ever see a guy say hey you got beat up by by seven dudes and then you go back and you watch the tape and he got beat up by one guy? I'm gonna piss. You know I'm saying it's like over exaggeration of

the story. Right. So I remember the story I know exactly what happened. My dad was never in the locker room. My dad was never a problem in the locker room but when Mike Silver and media members from DC go around telling those stories constantly, the next generation tends to think that those things are true. And what bothers me is not myself, like I'm so far past it for me, but for my family. Yeah, no, that's fair. That type of stuff does not sit well with me because you could ask Will Compton, you could ask any of my teammates, my dad was never in the building, he was never telling anyone what plays they needed to run, he was never micromanaging anything, and for a military veteran of 21 years to put his time in and serve this country,

for them to constantly go around making those lies because they're trying to paint it in a certain way as to why it didn't work, that bothers me. Dan Snyder, the whole story is Dan Snyder walked in the locker room and he did walk to me, but he didn't brush past Kirk Cousins. He walked to me and he said, hey, I heard you worked out in pregame and they said you'll be ready to go next week. Then he turned around and he congratulated Kirk Cousins

on the job that he did. And for them to change that story to make it seem like it Was something that it wasn't that's always bothered me. I had I hadn't heard that story in years But when he came on the show and he said that I was like that's fucking bullshit I had never heard the story. So I wish I had and been able to correct him now. We'll just say Mike Silver You're a liar. So now he's got to come on Back on I would love and be like show with Mike's all right. We'll do it We'll get it done

I would love to come on with Mike silver because the the lies that he tells and whether it's in the book or not I don't know if it's in the book if it's in the book I might sue the shit out of them whoo, but if the lies that they tell about that stuff It's defamatory towards my family. I will always protect my yeah. No, that's if that didn't happen. I would be very upset Yeah, completely fair. Yeah, and I and I'm not mad at you guys about it. I'm more so sad and I was like, you know what? I think I'm gonna be at bars so soon. I'm just gonna talk to my guys, Big Cat and PFT about it.

Because going online and talking about it isn't gonna do anything. No, you're right. I was smart. Let's just have the conversation. No parent has ever been in the locker room screaming at a coach. It never happens. It would never happen. No team would allow that to happen

The only time my dad has ever been in the locker room was when I got knocked out of that Atlanta Falcons game Because then they bring your family to the locker room to check on you and you're hurt. You have a head. Yeah Yeah, so that that bothered me but well, I'm happy you you were able to say that because I like we obviously didn't know the story So we're sitting here like oh, that's crazy And you handle it the right way like I mean listen sometimes it's better not to fight on the internet correct That that's what I did when you were taking the not victory lap on me. I literally I responded. I was like Rg3 I'll see you in literally four days. We'll talk about it then and then I hit mute conversation We'll talk about it then and then I hit mute conversation

It's like no I like our g3 I'm not gonna let other people try to you know, put a wedge here No, I like you guys I think what you do is phenomenal the way you connect with your fans is great. Everything today has been top-notch I look forward to the stream. Yes. All right, and we'll have to catch the commander's game together We're gonna go to the Cowboys game is on Sunday But if there's a Monday night game in DC and you have that available, I will be there no matter what love it I appreciate that last request I have for you guys. Yeah, you guys like to come with me Or is this Chris on run with the Bulls? Oh Can you do it when we've talked about this a lot of punishment I don't know I don't want to but I want to

You know, I want to come on. I don't want to. But I want to. I want to. I don't want to but I feel like I should. No I'm the opposite. I want to. I don't want to like have to travel. Like if you could bring the Bulls here I'd fucking run with the Bulls every day. But I don't really want to get on a flight in July and have to go to Spain Yeah, when is it? It's in Spain. It's in July. It's the first two weeks of July That happens to be when we usually take a vacation chill week Can you find us some goals that we could do it here about chill week in Spain? Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm gonna put me down as a maybe maybe yeah, I'm gonna tell you I think I'm in yeah But but they can but but chill week

But we could do chill week in Spain. Well the whole point of chill week is the interviews There no interviews in Spain no yes, we can get some interviews messy max is shaking his head. He agrees with me That's to do we already have plans So chill week this is already sold. Do we know the date would they do it every year? So I'm out this year the day for I'm out this year, okay, but I mean I'm in for a future year, okay? I'm gonna hold you to it. Well. We don't even know Chris long and kill me dates might not conflict. Yeah, let's look now I don't think they conflict. Oh fuck you memes. I mean it's good man means This is last year's day

Last year's date was July 10th. That's exactly when we're in For for all the other again. Yeah, because I mean it's it was we did it last year was the best thing ever Right. Well, we got like I don't know 10 interviews incredible interviews, you know, I was there It's a monster now. Yeah. All right. Top notch. July 7th through 14th. That's literally chill week. That's the bulls? Yeah.

All right. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. I wanna do it. I do. I've always wanted to do it. I've just never wanted to travel. I don't wanna do it, but I'm in. Yeah. I'm reluctant.

I know exactly what you mean. You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes you have to take stuff that feels so wrong and be like, you know what? I also yes, I also wouldn't I wouldn't hate getting roughed up just a little bit by a bull really not fully. I Don't like it was the rag doll with the horns from the bull I would like just not the horns maybe like the bull like head butts my ass or something Because concern after all the bad shit he said about the bulls for the last 10 years yeah they're gonna come

after me oh I've always thought thought is looks like the most exciting thing ever and also I'm an idiot so I'm like I have no problem getting out of the way I think it'd be awesome I might I might end up killing a bull with my strength am I allowed to take any mind-altering substances before I run with these balls yeah I can either confirm or deny yeah if you have taken any mind altering substances before I run with these balls? Yeah, I can either confirm or deny if you have taken any mind altering substance. Okay, all right, so put it on the list. It's that climbing Kilimanjaro with Chris Long. Yeah, we'll do that. We owe him that. Really? Yeah. You guys are climbing Kilimanjaro? Well, we say yes to a lot of things. Okay. Yeah, but I would like to do this.

Okay. So we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. All right, RG 3. Thanks so much, man Appreciate you guys Welcome back to another fire fest of the week brought to you by our friends over at Morgan and Morgan You know, it really sucks not picking the lottery ball number and having never picked the lottery ball number You know, it doesn't suck calling Morgan and Morgan if you're injured so they can help you get what you deserve Well, they can't help memes get the lottery ball, they can help fight to get you full and fair compensation when injured. Their fee is free unless they win. For more information, go to for the people.com slash PMT or dial pound law pound five to nine from your cell

phone. Okay. Let's wrap up. We got fire fest of the week. Henry. Yeah. How you doing? I'm not doing great. I have about five, uh, Fire Fest currently going on all at once. Five alarm Fire Fest, one of which I'm not even ready to, uh, we'll talk about in a couple of weeks. Uh, and then the other one I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna brain dump cause I don't even really know where to start or finish. Okay. And then hopefully we just come to a solution okay inside Hank's head. Yeah, yeah Nine darter yep. Yeah dunking yeah, I I know I said I was gonna do the nine darter Vanny woodhead when we've been you know

It's looking good by the way. Let me stop you before this I am looking good. I mean kind of I have talked That's not even on the list, but that's like a future fire. I've talked to a tattoo artist I think I'm getting my tattoo next week. Well, maybe we can maybe we can collab No, I'm just gonna pay off my bet Okay, cool baseball baseball streams also not looking great. Oh The boys are down bad. I was gonna get a perm two weeks ago boys are down bad. I couldn't I will be getting a perm. Oh We're trying with baseball. We are trying very very hard

We want to make it the best video possible and it's we've had some some hurdles the weather Yeah with the nine darter That's that's part of it too is where I've kind of planned it out and because I came to the realization that since Max chose a Punishment that's literally physically impossible. Like if you guys had to do it, it would none of us would be able to do it. It would take, you know, years, centuries where you could veto. Yeah, I just didn't realize how hard it was when I run a marathon. Why? I already we already went through this process, whatever. So came up with a plan for a stream where basically I live in the office for like three or four days and there's you know

Stipulations every 12 hours it gets easier and easier. So that way, you know at some point it can finish It's not gonna be nine consecutive darts, but it's like, you know Enough where the punishment is paid off because I've literally stayed at this office for four days But with the dunk training also coming down to the wire, I kind of have been in the head of like I need every, you know, all the time that I can have to this is an easy solution. Focus on what just do the nine daughter in January. That's what we got. We got nothing going on in January. Do the nine daughter in January. All right. That's great. Yeah. Easy. And I was going to say, with the four days,

there's going to be other stuff that's going on during the streams. Because it's like, I can't just throw darts the whole time. So stuff like getting a tattoo or whatever. Oh, OK. I could do that. But yeah, just do the nine darter in January. Focus on dunking now. We'll all get paid off.

It's also something to look forward to in January, because there's nothing like, obviously, the weekends have playoff football but during the week we'll find a time and we'll do it yeah at least you're getting a sick car soon no I just had two weeks ago I have a sick car okay now you have a nice car is it sick it's pretty sick yeah I don't know it's got some damage I drove in it the other day. It's a little tiny I'm being honest. It's a little tight like I I was parking Hanks car and My car is large and so I was like, oh shit Can I fit in this spot and I I parallel parked and I was like, oh my god

I put another car in here. Yeah, so tiny so It's nice. You it's like putting your little pocket Yeah, boyfriend car That's a plus not guy from the bar. It's a plus right there that he just said your car stinks because you can get into Parking spot. No, no, it's so small that I could put it in my pocket. I'm Hank fight back. Yeah No, I mean like you have like kids and shit. I don't so I don't really need large space I'm also not you know I don't have to worry about my personal size Like you do That's good way to go Max get him get him all right Max just pumped you up also

Thanks pulling the parking lot has claimed another victim. There was a shattered shattered brake light Also, Hank's pole in the parking lot has claimed another victim. There was a shattered, uh, shattered brake light next to that pole. Oh, it wasn't you. It was red. No, it wasn't me. Somebody else because Hank installed that pole directly in the middle of the parking lot where nobody can see it. He did. And removed the yellow paint advising people, caution, uh, another car from Barswell Sports, an anonymous employee has backed into it. Yeah. That's two pelts on the wall for that pole, Hank. I hope you're happy. Okay. Good job. Glad we got that figured out. Glad we got that figured out. Yeah, me too. All right. Pft. My

Fire Fest of the week is Turkey. I didn't go there for hair plugs. I already got my hair plugs in the United States, but Turkey the bird. So I had planned on deep frying a turkey for the boys for this Thursday stream We're gonna fry turkey have a nice post Thanksgiving feast and I planned I planned a little bit ahead on this But I got fucked at every single turn. So on Tuesday, I was like, okay We got to get a turkey because if I get a frozen one It has to have time to defrost

Mm-hmm, or I could get a fresh one and then we could go ahead and get the brine Go and put the the seasoning and the rubbing on there. So on Tuesday, I ordered a fresh turkey from the store and They said okay. No problem. It'll be delivered soon. It got delivered Tuesday around lunchtime and I forget it math if Max brought it in or Paige brought it in, but it was a tiny little bag. And I paid $50 for this turkey. And I took the bag and looked inside,

and they brought me two turkey drumsticks. And the price on there was $7. And they still charged me $50 in the app. And I was like, what's going on with this? This is not right. So now that's a thing I have to fix, go back and forth through the app, get a refund. But still, it's okay. We got plenty of time to get a turkey. No big deal. So Paige hit me up

and she was like, Hey, I can have somebody go get a turkey for you. We've got Jacob, the intern on it. Cool. No problem. We'll have the turkey and plenty of time. Jacob goes out, runs to the store, comes back. We get done recording part of my take and Jacob's like, great news, I got your turkey for you. And I look at the turkey, I'm like, this turkey is cooked. Oh. Nice golden skin on it. Yeah.

Full turkey. I think it was like 13, 14 pounds. Max made a free throw with it. And I think it was $100 for that turkey. That was $120 turkey. So now we're at $170 for the turkey. And so I was like, Paige, I can't work with this turkey. We can't deep fry a turkey that was $120 turkey. Okay, so now we're at $170 for the turkey and so I was like page I can't work with this turkey. We can't deep-fried turkey. That's already cooked can't work with the circuit

You can't really though. No, it wouldn't it wouldn't be good. No, it would just be way too cooked Yeah, so then page is like don't worry about it. We'll get you a fresh turkey. We're calling butcher shops right now I was like cool sounds great Max hit me up and he's like, great news. We found a fresh turkey. We're going to go pick it up. And then he updated me to say we have acquired the turkey and it is now in the walk-in fridge here. It's a fresh turkey.

You'll be able to freeze it. No problem on Thursday. Fry it. Fry it. Yes. No. Yeah. No problem on Thursday.

So then we get back in the office yesterday and we go to start seizing this turkey, myself, Max, Chef Donnie, and we take the turkey out of the bag. And there's never been a worse smelling thing that I've ever smelled in my entire life. It was a rotted turkey. They sold a rotted turkey. Oh, $200. Oh, 100 bucks for that fresh turkey. Yes, additional additional book so now we're at what three? 70 where three hundred seventy dollars for no turkey, but pft. We're still getting a fried turkey tonight No, because the thing was because the fresh turkey was there

I now waited so long that I lost time to defrost a frozen turkey next week if we can find I don't think there are any turkeys and they just stop selling them. They stop selling It's like trying to buy a pumpkin after Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's like the the Halloween stores that pop up every year Yeah, the bird deadline has passed. Yeah, and now now we can't have any turkey tonight, which is a bummer But I could do one next week with a frozen turkey. That would be fine because there's plenty of frozen turkeys out there Yeah, but yeah, there's been just a nightmare trying to find a turkey this shit So three hundred seventy dollars down the drain. I gotta say I don't think collect. That's worse than your fire I don't think collectively as an entire unit. We've been this much of a mess ever

Yeah, we're in a bad spot. I'll say you can watch everything that PFT Watch all of this debacle go down. President Pug, who is as wise as he is benevolent, he documented the entire thing with the understanding that we were going to get a fried turkey paid off on Thursday, and the boys would have a nice feast before football. So he was following around the entire time.

So yeah, you can watch that on PMTV. Yeah, no, we're in a bad spot, Hey, I had a real sentence to Hank last week was I was like hey Hank. I'm seeing a therapist you want it you want him? I was like you can I can recommend you That's where we're at. It's been a long football season. What if You fry the turkey during the dark stream. Oh Okay, okay, January. I love it. That's yeah, that's forever. What if Jerry tries to get a hole-in-one during the dart stream? I just I'm I'm just disappointed cuz I love fried turkey. Yeah, we are with the best. That's good idea Yeah, what baseball might be back

All right, just got a text okay, I'll be back. Okay. we're back. All right. All right. Just got a text. Okay. I'll let you back. Love that. We're working. We're working. Um, all right. Uh, my fire fest is a little different. Uh, so I've talked about it, but my daughter is, I've, I've raised a troll. She's a troll in my image. She just, she literally does things to me that I, like I recognize myself. I'm like, you're just trolling so they they send pictures from her school and the other day it was like what do you want for the holidays and her answer was a baby and I asked her later that night I was like what did you mean by a baby like a doll baby and she won't give me a straight answer so I think she just wants to have another sibling she wants

a little brother yeah yeah she has a another sibling. She wants a little brother. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she has a little brother. She probably wants a little sister, but she won't, she'll like smile. I'm like, do you want a real life baby or a doll baby? And she just kind of smiles and just looks at me. I'm just like, God damn it. It won't give me an answer, but that's a bad one. Yeah.

I can't have another baby. Cannot. When a kid asks you for- Time up. Did you think about it though? Or are you like, I can't disappoint my daughter. We had a conversation like three months ago. It's actually the world works in a particular way where we had a conversation. We're like, what if?

And then my kid submitted like the worst night of like dinner and bedtime and bath. And we're like, ha ha, that's out the window. You got to haha that that's out the window you got to get snipped I do you got to get I got to get a snipperino. I'm just scared. I don't want to Ten kids what you have like that would be a six kids. I feel like ten kids I don't know. Yeah, what would be fun about it? I don't know. I thought I also don't want I don't I'm scared Scared to get snipped. I know that's stupid, but I'm still scared now due to March Madness Yeah, no, I'm actually my that's what I was thinking. No, I need to I'm March Madness

I need to be full. I need to be full of car. You have to your full testicles need to be Okay good show boys memes you have a fire fest Memes I took it Means we're doing a podcast we're doing a podcast right now. You're gonna have to put your headphones back Oh, he has no headphones on names put your head I mean the fact that you were turning mics off during a podcast last night is also not on he's just saying no memes No memes. I'm speaking order put podcast last on Wednesday. His mic is also not on. He's just saying no. Memes. Memes. I'm speaking on a deep laugh. This is an order. Put the, the people want to hear this. Come

on, put on your headphones. Hank, by the way, shout out our guy. Uh, let me find it. Memes, put on your headphones. He's putting them on. They're not fully on. They're close enough though. He can hear it. He can hear. Memes, I have good news for you. Here's the good news. Shout out our guy, deck.dev, who does a really good job with the lottery ball website. Memes, you're not even top three longest days without getting it right.

So Hank had a streak of 988 days. That's impossible. That's three years. 988 days. That is so long. 388 days that's impossible Three years It is max had 691 days that doesn't make sense to me. Yeah pft you had 558 days a drought and then memes you are at 407 days I'm after you at 366 days Uh, 407 days. I'm after you at 366 days. Pug is, uh, Pug has only gone 109 days is the longest Pug has gone from getting hit. So memes, um, do you have a question for him?

PFT? Have you ever gotten this? I couldn't hear you, but I'm opting out going forward. No, you can't do that. You cannot do that You can't do that. You are not allowed to opt out. This is what we do as a show. No memes me No, then you're then you're opting out of everything You've done your job. Well, are you quitting? No speaking. No, no, no, then you're quitting No, I can still do my job. No, your job is to guess a number here. It's not my job. Yes, it is. It's part of your job. It is 100% part of your job. Imagine if we opted out after a bad loss. That's our job. Do you just compare me to you? Well, I mean, you're opting out after one bad employees. Yeah, one bad loss and you've opted out. Well, I was just like, oh, the commander's

got to hail Mary. I'm not talking about the Bears for us here. Well, big cat co-host of the number one sports podcast compared to a national guy named memes, guessing a lottery balls. But it's your job. You're part of the team. You're part of you're part of the number one national sports podcast. I'm opting out. No, you can't opt out for you. You can't Yeah, Matt Matt's can pick it if you get it what yeah, then Max got it. What is he gonna say? Where's the ruling going forward? You can just have PFT then just still make the pick. Yes. So memes listen to me Okay, I want you to trust me because you you did me a solid you did a great job picking my number for me I I just want you to know that I am going to do everything I can to get you this lottery ball

Okay, you'll never see a podcaster podcast as hard as I will the rest of the season You'll never see someone push the rest of the team as hard as I will push everybody the rest of the season You'll never see a team play harder than we will the rest of the season. God bless Mmm, it sounds like if you opt out though, it's just like pete's you the right number, but it just doesn't count. No, I guess you're opted out. You're never going to get it. Yeah, I guess it is. What count as days that you didn't get it. I guess that goes to somebody else. Op back in, say a number. It's your, it's the show dude. Come on, don't do this. This is going to be bad if you try to opt out and you're not opting out of just talking. You can't do that. Why not? Because this is a

podcast. What do you mean? Why not? Just pick. I'll let you pick the number first. Are you walking out of the booth? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like you are you opting out of your job? I don't understand this. No, no, no. Just a lottery ball. But that this is part of your job. Do that. This is part of your job. that this is part of your job no no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it is you opt out a lottery ball you're opting out of the booth is that what you're doing and then you might be opting out of your job I don't want you I don't want to I love you memes I you're part of the team you took one bad loss and it was a horrific loss because BFT did get it before you and you've never gotten it which

that sucks because you've never gotten it is Is that true? It's true. I looked at the stats. You can ask Hank. I mean, Hank's been in this. I went twice as long and handle it like an absolute champ. I've never complained. That's a lie. That's an absolute lie. Complaining is fine. Opting out is not fine. Hank is the very definition of grace. You can, you can complain, you could bitch, you could do anything you want That's totally fine. That's people like that shit from us. You can't opt out Like I guess I'm in yeah Wow spirit. All right. So what is ready to stay with conviction numbers?

Go ahead memes Am I picking my own yeah Go ahead memes. Am I picking my own? Yeah, go ahead. We need a ruling from pug. Yeah, make sure this is all by the way. Pug walked into the studio the other day and me just said, what's up Hollywood? Memes picks his own number.

Okay, great. Okay, great. Great memes. I'll go to for Ash and Gentie. Okay, we're okay Back to back the actually memes is memes has gone to the dark side and created a he's Travis Hunter cardio king guy now Just off that all right. It would be a great show if you guys lost the Heisman There we go You not bet it too no oh

All right, I'll go three. I'll go 12 Good pick Hank 99 poke 76 wait, what was that Jack Jack? What was that? 44 44 71 was yours Shane 21 21 Well memes have you ever gotten this?

I have. Not. No, no, no. I've guessed. You've never gotten this, dude. I've guessed it. No, you've never gotten this. PFT, have you ever guessed the number right?

The question was, have you ever gotten this? Have you ever gotten this? We sold merch. I have gotten this. Tune in again. Have you ever gotten this? PFT has won it. He's never gotten it.

Have you ever gotten this? Have you ever gotten it? I got it. He got it. No, he got it. He got it. I got it. PFT. No, he didn't get it. No, he didn't gotten it. I got it. He got it. He got it. He got it. I got it Needed help in the turkey you still need help in the ball six You've never gotten this God I God help God help us all if Jack gets this That's what all the listeners are Help us all if Jack gets this before me that's what all the listeners are they need?

44 no I Pick it on his own yeah, well, I mean buddy. I got it. He's got it. No, I'm saying but now I Got what he said what said well. He's incapable of doing anything on his own Entire fire fest was other people messing up I Know I screwed up the delivery you're like like, ah, Jacob couldn't do this. Max couldn't do that. Yes, he's back. I mean, I can't, I can't help.

No, no, I'm not blaming Max. I'm just saying these are the events that transpired. He's opted back in. Let's go. This is your Joker arc right now. Dude, memes has always been the Joker. I know, but it's now, it's now like everyone's seeing it in the light of day Joker denial Yeah, yeah, he's he's a truly a

He's an angry boy agent of chaos. He's an angry boy. What's up? Yang? Yeah, it also you know what I realized the other day we got too many Italians that entire. Yeah, it's Italian Yeah, I thought it Jack every single one of these fucking guys got a vowel on their last name Yeah, so they just get in that little box and they just get angry Italians. It's fucking nuts He was turning to check what pass you right now Pug what? Jack is confirmed half a town. Oh my god. All right. So yeah, it's just a disgusting Just too many Italians in one booth. I like that We got locked up in a cell we should actually put a big Italy flag behind you guys just remind us every time love every time you get mad

We're like up Italian. Are you mad like a chart? Maybe like the zero to ten? You know hurt chart at the hospital. It's just where are you right now? Are you angry or Italian? I'm just Italian no memes is angry. Yeah memes angry and Italian. Yep So So so So so So so So Thanks for watching!