Pardon My Take - Rich Eisen In Studio, Heat Tie Up The Finals, SCF G1, Jake Hit A Hole In One And Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

Heat Culture is back again as they tie up the series and give the Nuggets their first loss at home in these playoffs. We talk Game 2 and the fact that we officially have a series (00:00:00-00:16:01). Stanley Cup Final Game 1 and the Knights looked dominant (00:16:01-00:21:16). Jake hit a hole in and PFT went to darts (00:21:16-00:33:10). Who's back of the week including Joe Mazulla and Mark Zuckerberg definitely not getting choked out (00:33:10-00:53:47). Rich Eisen joins us in studio to catch up on his career, NFL, TV Shows and tons more (00:53:47-01:52:48). We finish with the lottery ball (01:52:48-01:57:24:17).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take, the Miami Heat have tied the NBA Finals. Incredible second half from them, incredible second half from our friend, Dougan Robinson. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Stanley Cup Final Game 1, little darts talk, little skip Bayless talk on who's back.

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a testicle. Yeah, so thank you for that big cat, although I still feel like I'm confident in my Nuggets, but tonight showed me that when the heat changed up to defense, it looked like they may have found something on defense where their strategy was, we're going to let Yolkic score as many points as he wants. Yeah, just be a scorer. Let him score a bunch of two pointers, because two points is not as much as three points, and so their zone defense was kind of predicated on allowing him to be a scorer, not a passer.

Yeah, he had four assists. And he had four assists, Porter Stunk shooting the ball, Jamal Murray Stunk shooting the ball until the fourth quarter, everything kind of broke the heat's way, but you know who is really to blame for this being a series, Taylor Swift. Oh, I was going to say Jake Marsh. Jake Marsh, yes, Jay. We're going to get to his hole in one, but that was an ominous sign if you're a Nuggets fan.

It's definitely Jake's day today for sure. There was an article on ESPN about the Taylor Swift curse in these NBA playoffs. So every NBA team that made it to the semifinals this year, they've had a Taylor Swift Errors tour stop through their city, and they've all been eliminated. The Denver Nuggets had Taylor Swift perform there, the Miami Heat is the only team that has not had Taylor Swift perform in their city. So if you're a Swiftie, if you're a Swiftboater, you know that that means that Miami is going to win these championships.

Wow. Yep. So you're going to have to get a tattoo and have it removed. I don't think she's gone to Denver yet. You mean it's like on the schedule? On the, yeah, it might be on the schedule. Yeah. Got it.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Wow, Jake. I'm just funny. Yeah, yes. Jake Goodcall, she is going there July 14th and 15th. Okay. So in this game, like the heat, it felt, they came out, played great in the first quarter,

like, okay, this is the best effort that he'd have, then the Nuggets, you know, put up, they were up like double digits for a while, which again, we keep telling ourselves and it keeps shocking us every time. The heat loved to be down double digits in these playoffs and come back and going into the fourth quarter, Duncan Robinson, 10 straight points, shout out podcasters everywhere. But yeah, it was, it was basically the heat, like the heat are so good as it just a team. The way they move the ball, everyone touches the ball. They had four guys, five guys in double digits, four starters in double digits.

And it was, yeah, they were basically like, Yoakich, go ahead, score 41, but you aren't going to be able to find guys for open threes and we're basically going to let you do everything and not let Jamal Murray or Michael Porter Jr. or, you know, KCP, any of these other guys beat us and it worked. And I, you know, it is shocking just because the Nugget, like, I always thought the heat were going to be a little bit live in the series. I think my official pick was Nuggets in six, but the fact that the heat won in Denver, which has not happened in these playoffs yet, and now seemingly have semi control of this

series going back to Miami. I don't know. Ooh. They still home court. It's going to be, man, did you, did you get a little upset watching this game, Hank being like, man, not going to be in the Celtics winning this game? Yeah, it's just sad. I mean, the heat are good.

They just do not die. They are good. Don't miss. They are like, I know that it's stupid to even say, because obviously they're good and they're in the NBA finals, but you still have to keep reminding yourself because they ate seed and they weren't that good in the regular season, but they are a really fucking good team. And Spoe is the best.

Yeah. He is the best coach. I like how they let him play down the stretch too. Yeah. Not a lot of time now. It's called. Yeah. He just was like, let's do it.

And I mean, Doug and Robinson, that was, that was the difference in the game because he, when he came out in the fourth quarter and put up those 10 points and basically had a run by himself, that was like the, the, it went from, they were down what like five, I think, going into the fourth quarter to then being up and they never gave up the lead again. Yeah. They've been loved plus 18. Yeah.

Who was a DNP in game one and then started tonight. They said that he was starting so that he could defend Michael Porter Jr. Mission Accomplished. Yeah. And he had 10 rebounds. So Kevin Love, like it's, it's just every time the heat, just they just have guys like even Max Truce, who was horrible in game one, 0 for 10 from the field, 0 for nine. He comes out. He hits his first, I think three out of his first four threes and ends up with, uh, with

14 points. Like they just bounce back. They also got to the line 20 times. Yup. They shot 20 foul shots. They made 18 of them. Game one, they shot two foul shots. Yeah.

So that's a, that's a big, big, different 16 point swing. Six of them coming from KCP fouls, which were bad. Those are bad. Yeah. Can't foul guys shooting threes. Those are, those are really dumb fouls down there. They put credit to the nuggets. They did bring it back.

It looked like they were going to get their doors blown off in the fourth quarter. Yeah. They had a shot at the end. They, they came back, had a shot at the end. It was, it missed by matter of inches and, uh, and yeah, now it goes to Miami. They now have control of the series. It's a must win for Denver. Game threes must win.

Ooh. It's a can't lose for Miami. Ooh. Max. Thoughts of the must win being thrown out there. Uh, there's no must win. Yup. It is a must win.

I agree with you, PFT. It's the exact, it's a must win. It's a can't lose for Miami though. Yeah. It's a can't lose for Miami. It's a must win for Denver. Thank you guys for saying he culture is dead on Friday show. Yeah.

No, we've, we've buried it many times. I think, say it again. Say it again. No, I saw it. It didn't even be more alive right now. He culture was also dead in the first half tonight. Yeah. Yeah.

It was. And it was, it felt like it, watching this game in the first quarter, you're like, that was the best shot that he'd had. And then as soon as the second quarter started, you're like, oh, yep, here's, here's the nuggets. This is what the rest of the series is going to be. And it just fucking heat culture, man. They just don't, they just don't die. They don't go away.

Schrodinger's culture. Yeah. They gave up a 40 to 14 run and still won. Yeah. And what was crazy was Miami, Miami looked awesome right out the gate. They were so good for the first half of the first quarter, if that makes any sense. But then Denver ended up winning that quarter anyways. I think they were up by like seven.

No, in the first quarter. Oh, sorry. Sorry. They won by eight. Yeah. They won by three. So Denver brought it back close. And then the start of the second, it was like all of a sudden Denver was just dominating

and you thought, okay, this game's over. And then the fourth quarter, I don't know, they got used to the altitude. They didn't run out of gas. It is nuts though, because as like an entire organization, like think about it, Kevin Love was, was DNP in game one. Duncan Robinson last year couldn't get like we, we all, we love Duncan. He's a friend of ours. He's a friend of the show.

We're like, is this it for him in Miami when he was not getting on the court in big moments? And all these guys just never, they stay ready. And then they know that there's going to be a moment where they're going to be needed and they perform. Yeah. And it is, it's redundant to say, but it is culture because you see it in other teams where it's like a guy has a bad spell, gets put on the bench, isn't able to bounce back. They just feel like the heat have a bunch of guys who, when they're called upon will

step up and it might not be every game. It might be every other game. It might, it might be long stretches where they're not playing. And then when they get in, it's like, no, they don't miss a beat. That little stretch that Duncan had where he started to scow, when he put on the mean mug, you know. Yeah. And Gabe Vincent did a stare.

Listen, Duncan, I liked the mean mug. I thought it was effective. You probably win 100% of the games when there's a Duncan Robinson mean mug that happens on the court. I think he practices it. Yeah. I think it was, it's a rehearsed face. You can't have, you can't get scowled at by a podcaster from Williams College.

Yeah. Normally we just, we just fire Billy. Yeah. We're just like, dude, shut up. Yeah. You just read that on Reddit. The other, the create, the scary thing for the nuggets, there's a couple of scary things because they obviously lost home court here, but Jimmy Butler wasn't that great.

Like he has not, he has not asserted himself in this series. He did not have a great shooting night. He had a few turnovers. He had some himmy shots down the stretch though. Yeah. No, he did. But I'm just saying he wasn't, there's more for Jimmy Butler and co, I'm, I'm saying co-eastern conference, uh, MVPs, Caleb Martin was also very bad again.

So it was back to back, bad games, Caleb Martin, it does feel like the heat have some guys that could step up even, even more, even though you don't expect Duncan Robinson to go on a 10-0 run. What up? That was fucking insane. That was awesome. That was so sick. It was just.

As a Nuggets fan, I, I even felt, I felt it deep in my soul. So yeah. No testicle bet. Thank God. Um, but. I might have to get a ball tattooed and then a ball removed. Yeah. Hank, you missed that on, on Friday, but yeah, the, the immediate ball.

I got out of, I got out of pocket a little bit. And you've never been able to talk about ball again. Yeah. I just started to roll. I can't talk about that ball. Jake, you should actually have to get a golf ball tattoo because you got a hole in one. Yeah. You know, ball.

I'll pass. You can have mine. Okay. Your tattoo. Yeah. If I get a home one, I'm getting a tattooed for sure. Yeah. Shout out to Taylor made.

Yeah. I roll back and course light. Oh, great. Yeah. Yeah. Shut them all out. Fuck yeah. I had all of them integrated.

Yeah. Four Hymns should definitely do a sponsorship after like every game that Hymns player of the game. Yeah. Just the guy that looked the horniest out there. Or four Hymns just being like, instead of even needing four Hymns, just hit a hole in one. You'll get hard all week.

Yep. Did you get a little blood rush? Little bit. With the boys? Yeah. Boys are patting on the ass. Yeah. Giving you a little, you know, giving you a little smooch.

Something. You see, you see your ball go in a hole. It's okay. You know, things start happening to guys brain. It's okay. We have a series. I'm excited because I like, when you get to the NBA finals, you just don't want it to end super early.

You don't want it to end in four or five. It's still obviously could end in five, but it feels like this could be a two, two going back to Denver, which there's nothing better than when you get the two, two game five. And so. Pivotal. Yeah. Using that term. Yeah.

And now we get into the weird stretch of the NBA schedule where they try to, they're just like, let's put a game on every day of the week. We also are going to be inundated with stats about like the winner of game three in a series when it's tied one, one. I'll eat them up. What's that percentage? I don't know what it is, but I'm going to, I'm going to recite that verbatim probably five times on the next show.

Oh, I will let that distort all my thinking. Kyle Lowry just finished with the post game. He's got the longest shorts ever. Respect. I like that. Did you see the very important thread from our good friend Robert Griffin, the third? No. You put this out, I believe on Friday.

If the Denver Nuggets players each had a dipping sauce, what best describes them? Oh man. I'll start. He helped me volunteer to start. Oh, thank God. Nicole Yolkic is barbecue sauce. Okay. Because he fits in any system.

And then Jamal Murray is ranch. The sauce isn't quite loved by everybody, but it heightens the flavors of the food it's dipped in making everybody better around it. Many believe this sauce deserves more love. Are there, are there like ranch haters out there? I mean, there's a blue cheese ranch divide. I've always thought that was like, it's a personal preference with wings. I'm a blue cheese guy, but I like ranch for other things.

I like both of them. I think it's more there's ranch fanatics who like put it on their pizza and shit. Yeah. Aaron Gordon is ketchup. I think he just ran out of sauces. So he was like, yeah, I'll just give him ketchup. This is a dud of a threat. Michael Porter Jr.

Like, I'll just be honest. Michael Porter Jr. It's even worse hearing it was Chick-fil-A sauce. Okay. Because he's a mix. Basically, every player has a mix of different sauces except for, except for Aaron Gordon, who's just straight up ketchup. What point is RG3 just going to start doing the threads of, you know, like the hot threads

now are just being like presidents reimagined AI is like as baseball coaches. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Like what if every look, what if every, what if every college mascot was fat and in AI? My favorite ones are when they just put like a logo of a team be like, who's the first player you think about when you see this logo? Yeah.

Those always slap. Yeah. Okay. So thank you RG3. What was it Chick-fil-A sauce for Michael Porter Jr.? Yeah. Chick-fil-A sauce was for Michael Porter Jr. If you're interested, Caldwell Pope with sweet and sour sauce.

Oh, nice. And then Bruce Brown was Honey Mustard. Oh. So spicy thread from RG3. Yeah. Who's Barbara Cuffill? Did you get a lot of, did you get a lot of engagement off that? Not as much as you'd think.

Well, probably more than I think. I'd think zero. Well, so he probably kept refreshing that thread and he's like, I think Twitter's down again. No one's responding to my sauce thread. Oh, it's got to be tough. They just showed it to be the Joker guy and in a loss. Have to go home sad in a Joker outfit.

It actually is how the Joker like is created. Yeah. That they should, if they ever make another Joker, it should be a guy at a Nuggets game watching the Nuggets lose, maybe like a really controversial foul, and then he goes home and he decides to just be the Joker. Completely Joker fight. Christian Brown should be Mayo. That was a big miss by RG3.

Yeah, that was. That one on there. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. We got more show. We'll do a quick ad and then we got more show, whole in one darts. Everything rich eyes and let's kick, kick it to an ad.

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One, it did feel like Florida maybe had a little too much rest, so it sucks for them that they were so good in the Eastern Conference final. Two, it feels like, and Whitney told us this, Vegas having these huge defenders. Florida is like a team that, as a team, feels like they just want to get in fights and bother you. And Vegas is the most disciplined, big team

that it might not work for them. It might not work. It's obviously game one, but it might not work against a team like Vegas who's like, no, fuck this, we'll play hockey. We're not going to try to get in a fight. Vegas also had a goalie standing on his head. Aiden Hill, that save that he made.

Both had goalies standing on their head going into this. Yeah, but that one save that he had was incredible. It always feels like there's one big statement save that happens in the Stanley Cup Finals where that team goes on to win, because it sucks all the way. They had a wide open net and made one of the best saves I've ever seen on the goal line.

It was, I mean, it was dominant after that for the Knights. I like the Knights, they're fun to watch. They are, and they had the pregame, which was crazy. The lights and everything and the Knight fighting a Florida Panther army and everything. The pregame was fun. If you're a real hockey guy, I have to imagine the purists out there

are like this last two minutes too long. No, there's a dude who's sitting in like, you know, Minotoba being like, just drop the fucking puck. Drop the puck. I don't care about Cirque du Soleil. Right. I do care about Cirque du Soleil. I love the theatrics. It was, I think also it's not as cool as it was the first time when they were new and it was, you know,

they were in the final against the Caps and it was like, oh my God, what is this? Now we all expected it. Also, they are the favorite in this. So it's like not as, you know what I mean? They're expected to win this Stanley Cup. But yeah, my biggest takeaway was it might not work for the Panthers to do what they've done to get here

against a team like Vegas that just plays hockey and plays discipline and has, as Whitney said, huge D. Big D. Big girthy D. Yeah. He didn't like that joke. No, no, he did not. That's probably because right before that, I think I just asked him, what was it like to lose the Stanley Cup?

Yeah, that was a little bit aggressive. But that was a curveball because usually it's like, what was it like to watch your friends win the Stanley Cup? I've actually never heard a player talk about what it's like to lose the Stanley Cup before. Paul Maurice, the head coach of the Panthers after the game, he said the key is they have to breathe. So they're gonna breathe.

They look for the Panthers to be sucking in more air, breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth, exhale, get the blood going. Well, and they also had, you know, Chuck has been the like heartbeat of the team and Whitney mentioned him as well. He had not a great game. Yeah, I think a 10 minute his conduct to end the game,

but he also had a turnover for the game winner to make it three, two. So yeah, they got to breathe. They got to breathe. They just got to breathe. I would like to see this go seven. I want to see an exciting Stanley Cup final to make up for what they've done for the most part in the playoffs.

Yeah. Which has been boring. Breathe and play hockey. That would be my two tips to the Panthers. Don't worry about fighting. Don't worry about, you know, trying to get in their head, just play hockey. I'm gonna breathe. I'm gonna remind myself to breathe more

when I watch this game. It's important. Really suck it all in. I'm gonna breathe. So Jake, your P's. The P's, go P's. Down 0-1, but you hit a hole in one. So we have to mention that.

You hit a hole in one today. First one on this podcast. Well, I've hit four, but none of them are on video. So those don't really count. I've got several in PGA 2K. Yeah. Pixel golf, I've actually hit probably like four or five. So you guys have had hole in one?

No, no, no, no, no. This was like, I want you to talk us through it because it is for anyone who's like, oh, it's just a hole in one. It's up there for things that like you ask a guy who golfs, like, have you ever hit a hole in one? And most are like, no, I have not. I've played a ton of rounds.

I've never hit one. It's like the best thing that a man can do. Yeah. Is get a hole in one. So congrats, you are officially a man. Yeah. It's crazy, yeah. My bar mitzvah does not count as turning me into a man.

This is it. You're a man now. So talk us through it. Were you just floating the rest of the day? Yeah, I had the worst back nine in this memory. Yeah, you should have posted your card with the eights. It's real. I know.

I want to clean that up a little. Jake can't lie. I can't lie. It was an awful round. And then I had the shot. And then afterwards, I was horrific, but that does not matter. No one's to remember, yeah.

Yeah. I still can't believe it's all I've been thinking about. It was incredible. You have to buy us a round of waters. Yeah. I'll go get them. You have to buy, right? That's the rule.

Yeah. Did you buy after? I bought rounds after. And it was on the eighth hole. So at the halfway house, I got eight core's lights. Two for the four of us. Nice. Two for each of us.

Now, did you win? No. I was awful. Yeah. Put the hole in one. Yeah, it's all that matters. Jake and I were talking earlier about if you're a PGA tour golfer and you get a hole in one during a tournament,

that might actually fuck you up mentally for the rest of your round. Like screw it up. To hide me off. To hide me off. It was worse for my score. But it still was a hole in one. Yeah.

That's why I don't hit them. Now, you play a lot of golf. Hank, you also play a lot of golf. Have you ever gotten one? I have not. Have you gotten this one? Oh, interesting. I'm very happy for Jake.

I don't know why people were trying to tell you something. Oh, I immediately did. Yeah, immediately. No, I mean, Jake, Jake, Jake is my father. He wins everything. He got a hole in one. I was happy for him. It's a long, long hole in one, too.

I was curious what the distance was. Sometimes, you know, not that it matters. Hole in one is a hole in one. But it was a long, long earned hole in one. 187, which is a long part of three. I would hit driver. Yeah, five iron. Just taking a little off it.

It's crazy. Front pin had some wind with me, so. You'll always remember it. I'll always remember it. And I have it on video. You should go where? What course was this? This is Harbor Lynx on Long Island, Port Washington.

We should go out and put a plaque up there. I got a certificate. Yeah, but we should put a plaque. We should put a plaque on a tree right there, just being like Jake Marsh. Jake Marsh, first home one ever. Hank has never gotten it. Jake's big hole.

I can talk to some people. OK. Well, we could just go out there and just do it. We've done it before with Larry. Jake, are you a little bit worried that your golf career is peak, though? It might have, but I'll always have this. I don't know.

I feel like it's you had a peak. I feel like once you get one, the second one's going to come floodgates open. That's what I heard. I heard they come in bunches. I also liked, because Jake's been filming his rounds and posting them on social, but he wasn't even filming this round.

He was just, he just happened to film the par three. Yeah, so I was going out with my friends. Usually I film the rounds when I go up by myself and I'm with randoms, because I shoot and edit it for content. You videotape random people. No, I only film myself. For your own personal files. Yeah.

So I'm like, I'm not going to film it. I'll just enjoy it. Because you have to worry about the angles and all that. So it's more relaxing just to play. And they're like, at least do the par three's. You never know. I'm like, OK. Fuck.

It's so awesome that you got it on film. Because people would definitely not believe you, although I would personally believe you. I'd say most people would not believe you if you just said because of everyone on this podcast. I think people would believe, of course, they would. It was funny because we started. We started a lot of congratulations in the group

in the group text when we saw the video come out. And then Billy's initial reaction was like, can you can you see the ball though on the video? So Billy was actually the one that's like, of course he was. Now I don't think that this is true. You can't handle everyone else being happy about someone else. No, I'm actually very happy for Jake. Billy's very woke on it. Just a little skeptical.

Like you only filmed that one. I was I was at the playground with my kids and I was like, I thought maybe you were calling the game on ABC today and I forgot. So I was, you know, I was like, fuck, I really fucked this up. It's good to know there was a hole in one. I think it's very happy. Guys are probably more likely to reach out to their friends and be like, congratulations when they get a hole in one

than they are if you find out that you're going to have a kid. Yeah. I mean, it was it was a cool moment. You were a boy. It was it was trending. Thanks for congratulating. Yeah, pretty fucking cool. Very cool. Very, very cool. Yes. All right. Do you want to talk about darts real quick?

PFT, you went to darts. It looked awesome. We can do a dart recap. Yeah, it was I'm a real needle. Max, you can also recap. Yeah, Max. Max, where were you? Were you at darts? I didn't go. Oh, why not? You went to the beach. That's right. It was the beach.

Beach is awesome. So not a darts fan. Everybody, everyone was asking about Max. It was crazy. I went up to the bartender and he was like, I heard I heard that Max isn't coming to darts this year. Is that true? Damn. And I was like, unfortunately, it is.

Because I kept looking over my shoulders to see if maybe this is a big bit and that Max would show up as the dart father. But you're you're the you're the absentee. You're a deadbeat dart father. Yeah, you stepped up. I did. I did step up. I'm the I'm a dart father that stepped up. Yeah, it was it was so much fun.

If anybody has the opportunity to go see darts, I highly recommend it. Now, you have to be very drunk to enjoy it. Well, that was so I had a ticket and I was thinking about joining. And then so I was with my kids all day and then around seven o'clock when they went down to bed, I looked at like I just scrolled through Twitter and I was like, yeah, I'm just going to be the only sober person showing up to like the greatest

party ever. Yes. And so I was like, I'll just live with the FOMO and realize that that was so much fun. That's probably a good choice, though. You don't want to go to darts sober. Well, you're right. And just showing up like in being like you guys have been having the best time of your life.

What if you what if you what if you kill the vibe? Yeah, I wouldn't want to kill the vibe. Everybody looks. It was it was like a big costume party to everyone gets dressed up through fights in the stands at darts that we saw a bunch of guys dressed up as professional wrestlers. A lot of people dressed as traffic cones for some reason. I love that might be a dart thing.

I'm not sure. But yeah, I'm in love with darts now. It took me like two games to figure out exactly what was going on. And then Michael Van Girlen is just a fucking Haas. Yeah, he is a machine. He's like, is he the bad boy of darts? He's just the best. He's the best.

And he's also the bad boy. He's like an ultimate. He's got just a great darts look because he's like, there are professional athletes, technically. Yeah. And he's not to be a professional. He doesn't look like one. Where are they? Dartsists?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To be a professional darts, you have to either have a lumpy body or have a shaved head. And it helps if you have both. He went up against this guy named Jeff in the final. I don't know who Jeff was. He's a nobody from Canada. He was just like this nice Canadian guy that caught fire.

Nobody thought that he could win. He was a plus $10,000 underdog. I just I saw those odds and I sprinkled on him on the plus $10,000. And I also bet on Van Girlen. So I was just happy for the darts. I was just rooting for good darts at the end. It was so fun.

The crowd was absolutely buckled. Everybody was hammered. There were people that were across the aisle that were just openly doing cocaine in the stadium. Jesus Christ. It was a scene. It was crazy. But I'm a dart fanatic.

What can I say? I got to go back. Darts is the one sport where I hope they never have a revolution of when Tiger showed up on PGA and everyone started working out. And like even you go to baseball and like Babe Ruth was just hitting homers and like getting in the jiggly fat machine.

Darts, if darts ever like if we ever start seeing darts with six packs and being like, well, actually the stamina, it's better that I've been training like 365. Let's hope that darts never gets to that point. Yeah. Basically, I think the best dart players are probably just the ones that check off the most.

They've got three elbows. But it is it is funny too, because I'm sure being in shape just makes you better at everything. But I hope not for darts. I think there's probably some aspect to darts. I was thinking about this because you watch like shooting in the Olympics. And those people are all in fantastic shape, probably

because they're on skis a lot too. But they control their heartbeats with their breathing. And then so they shoot in between heartbeats. I bet there will be somebody like a fitness revolution that comes through darts. That's like, we got to get you training, get you on the Stairmaster. Someone who's listening to the Huberman podcast.

Exactly. And all of a sudden, he becomes the best darts. Yeah, I do cold plunge for nine hours every morning. That's all my entire day is actually in a cold plunge. And it makes me way, way better at darts. I mean, it makes sense as someone who carries around 30 to 40 extra pounds. It does make you mentally slower.

Yeah, it was just a blast. I can't wait to go again. I don't know if Max is going to be back invited next year. There was somebody in the crowd showed up on the Jumbotron holding a sign that said, where is Philly Maze? And Max got so owned by that the whole crowd went nuts. And Max was convinced that he was a plant. That I had him write that on a piece of paper.

I still think that was your doing. It was not. It was across the room. He was very far away from me. That was just organic, Max. The whole crowd was talking about you. What were you going to say, Billy? You may have said this, but I was looking up

what they call a professional dart player. But were the dart players drinking during the game? No, they were drinking waters. Could have been vodka. Probably waters. Beta blockers and alcohol are banned in the Olympics for shooting, for studying the hand reasons. Yeah, you're a beta blocker.

That's how alpha you are. Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you, big cat. I don't want to live in an era where you jacked up darts. Yeah, I could just see it, because that's just how every sport is gone, where

you have an Instagram, like some guy who's a professional dart player who has like 3 million Instagram followers and is doing all kinds of weird workouts. Yeah. And that would bum me out. I want the dark guys to look like. Basically, I want the professional darts to be guys that could hustle anyone at any bar in America

at any point, where they just show them, you're like, oh, this guy, no way. Yeah, I also want their uniforms to get less comfortable, because right now they wear kind of like professional bowler shirts. Yeah. Is what they wear. I don't want to see snug fitting jerseys.

I don't want to see that. I don't want to see a guy roll up with jinkos next time. Yeah. That'd be sick. There was a lot of pressure. I felt a lot of pressure to step in Max's position, because I am new to the sport, and I knew that we had to get the party going.

So I had to think of a speech before the dart walk, and I didn't have anything prepared at all. We got outside with about 15 minutes before darts, and we were walking across the street, and I turned around, and the only thing I could think of was just to get people chanting darts. Yeah, works. And so I just said, like, give me darts one time.

And everybody goes, darts. Give me darts two times. Darts, darts. We did all the way up to four, then we started marching across the street. Everybody was amped up. People on the street were giving us high fives. They're like, I don't know what this is,

but it seems like a blast. It's darts. It's darts, baby. It's darts season. Yeah. It was fantastic. I did watching the clips online. It was just like, it was basically

like a bunch of drunk guys that had to keep reminding themselves what they were doing today. Yeah. Like, we're here for darts, darts, darts. Like, every 20 minutes, a new video would pop up of everyone chanting darts. Like, just as a, hey, wait, why are we at this bar? Like, blackout drunk at 4 o'clock?

Oh, yeah, darts. There were a shitload of people wearing t-shirts that just literally said darts on them. I love it. I love it. It looked so much fun. It was fun. I'm going to try to do it sometime.

I was, at the end of it, I was so amped up that I was like, I'm going to start watching darts on TV. That's probably definitely why. But when I'm in a town that has a darts event at it, I am going to go to that darts again. And we should start playing darts more in the new office. We should definitely start playing darts. One overseas, like a championship or whatever,

that's in Ireland or Britain would be. Maybe for a great week. Biblical. Darts. OK, let's get to who's back of the week. Then we have Rich Eisen. It is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. Sometimes the days can get so crazy.

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My who's back in the week is Skip Bayless. Yes, he's back on the market. There's a lot of rumors seem pretty confirmed that him and Shannon are breaking up. Shannon's getting bought out after the NBA Finals end. A lot of, you know, little petty. He's like in tweets saying skips a piece of shit and that Shannon's way better and skips.

Never going to be able to find another co-host. You know, a lot of a lot of a lot of bad press coming out about skip wondering if he's even going to find a co-host. I feel like this is what happened when him and Stephen A. broke up and then he was fine with Shannon. I feel like he they're going to find someone. It's not going to be that big a deal. Yeah, so they're going to find someone.

But I think it might be the worst job in America to debate Skip Bayless every day. So like there's been a lot of reports. And just to set the stage, you have to get you're in LA, you have to get up at 3 30 in the morning. I don't think Skip Bayless sleeps. We know he doesn't sleep in the same bed as his wife on the weekdays.

And it essentially has been like floated out there that Skip is going to decide who it is. And they have to be a skip punching bag. Like Skip's not going to pick someone who can go toe to toe with him. Skip's going to pick someone that he can knock out in like the fifth round every single day. It it comes with, you know, celebrity and money. But I really do think it might be the worst job in America.

I think there will be people that are going to be lining up for it. Of course. Maybe no huge massive names. I'll throw out a name. LeBron. Oh, just get LeBron on there and have Skip debate. LeBron about LeBron James every single day. That'd be great. I would fucking watch that show all the time. It just wouldn't like you like even some of the people you can think of

that could go toe to toe with Skip. Why would they take that job if Skip is like you have to come in here and let me just like ragged all you. Yeah, the waking up would be the big problem for me. I'm officially taking my name out of the house. I am as well because of the early wake up time. I actually don't think that there's a single job in the world that I would do if it meant that I had to wake up at 3 30 in the morning every day.

Yeah, that's brutal. Can't do it. Can't do it. But Shannon, although your days would be so open, they would be, but then you just fall asleep. I know. Shannon is probably going to have some offers either to do his own thing or ESPN. I I think Shannon Sharp is actually very underrated as a co-host. I agree. Bayless. I think that like when he first started,

he was just like basically screaming at at Skip, which is actually a great way to get the show going. But I think that he's probably going to have his pick of some pretty good jobs. We're going to throw a shitload of money at him. I'm just saying be where he might try to grab you from behind and pinch your elbow if you if you have long hair, that's true. He can't work with somebody long hair. You'll get too horny. That's true. Yeah.

No, he'll be fine. Yeah, it'll be absolutely fine. I just I wouldn't want to he obviously will have a co-host because someone will be like it's basically like you can fix him. Like, oh, I can make Skip think that LeBron is good. No, no. Oh, I can. I can make Skip that Tim Tebow is bad. Someone is going to take that job being like, no, no, no.

I'll just I'll just bring salient points to the debate table. No, it does not matter if you just look at it under the pretense of like the job description is you're going to have to try to talk sense into somebody who absolutely thinks that Tim Tebow could be a Super Bowl winning quarterback and that LeBron James is one of the most overrated players in NBA history. Yes. You would think that you were signing up to sit in a room with an insane person. Yeah, it kind of is. Yeah.

It really he's definitely he definitely is insane. Nothing you say will change his mind ever. I would like to see him maybe just debate his wife. Yeah. Just have them just argue about just household. I would actually watch Skip to beat anything. It's you're basically signing up to be like a reply guy on Twitter that can be muted or blocked at any moment live on on television. Yeah. OK, good.

Who's back? Mother, who's back to his office? Amazon is coming out with an Australian reboot of the office. Oh, OK. So I think it will be may not might not be that big in the US. Like it's just an Australian thing, but we'll see. Now, the time will tell of, you know, the office in current day.

OK, I like listening to Australian people talk about anything. Yeah. OK, but we'll probably miss some of the jokes. Yeah. So it's a lot of them. Is it a reboot or like brand new episodes? Are they doing like cover episodes like the office did of the English version of the office? I think it's like the cover episodes. Are they doing it? Are they doing it for Australia or are they doing it for America with Australian accents?

I believe they're doing it for Australia. OK, yeah. So that's going to be tough to follow. Yeah, I'm trying to think of the plot lines, how they would translate into being an Australian, not Scranton, Pennsylvania. I don't know. I'm going to give it a try. Yeah, why not? There's definitely a scranton equivalent in Australia. Oh, of course.

I'm just saying there will be inside jokes that we will not get about Australian culture. Also, female, female Michael Scott. Oh, I'm for it. Yeah, maybe be better. Well, no. Does that mean the female Michael Scott's going to wear male suits? I don't know. Or, yeah, is it misogynistic to have a female boss, but she sucks at her job? Oh, good point. I won't be watching for that reason.

It's problematic. I'm going to say right now, because girl bosses exist and they're great at their job. So fuck that. Yeah, they should redo it and have her be completely competent. I think that would be a great show. Exceedingly competent. There's just one episode. The paper gets made fast.

As long as you think they're going to do Scott's thoughts. I don't know. Like a school of aborigine children. That would be funny. Yeah. OK, so we're in. But kind of kind of depending on how powerful they make the woman. Yes. All right.

PFT or who's back? My who's back of the week is soccer. Oh, Saudi Arabian soccer. The Saudi government has decided to inject twenty billion dollars in order to develop the top Saudi clubs and give credibility to their league. And they started the spending spree off by getting a Benzema. Oh, Ronaldo plays for Madrid.

Yeah, Ronaldo plays there. Allegedly, Benzema's contract is for three years. Six hundred forty three million dollars to pass up. Now, I've seen. I saw reports earlier that it was going to be a two year deal that was worth about four hundred million. But now I guess they tacked on that extra year. That's going to be a nightmare for the salary cap.

So basically, they're just completely cucking the MLS's model, which is just pay aging superstars. Yeah, fuckload of money to come finish out their career over here. We can't we can't compete with that. Although, did you see there's a rumor that Messi might go to Miami? Yeah, yeah, he's got ownership down there. Yeah, that'd be sick. Yeah, so this is a I mean, that's six hundred forty three

million dollars for a three year tax free, no state income tax. Yeah, yeah, no. We always forget. Yeah. When we list taxes in Tennessee and Florida, Saudi Arabia to my other who's back of the week is breasts. Oh, speaking of Steve and a Smith's bail list, that whole thing. Breasts are back. Steve Smith has now dragged, I think, five days of content out of

debating whether or not he likes breasts enough to drink breast milk. And Orlowski said that he drinks it. Of course he does. Yeah. So Josh Hart tweeted out that he tried his wife's breast milk when she was pregnant. And then Steve Smith was like, what is that? He goes, I like breasts. You don't have to be a baby to like breasts. Matter of fact, one could easily argue that there are adults

who like breasts more than babies. I would agree with him on that. I would also. I don't. I don't think that babies really like breasts nearly as much as well. Well, like newborns, they I mean, the breasts keep them alive. Yeah. But sometimes they have trouble latching on. Yeah. I've never met. Never met a dude that's had a problem latching on. Well, it is Pride Month.

It is. So. But males have breasts, too. Yeah, I know. But you think they latch it on? Yeah. Well, that's that's Joey and people forget that Hank has drank breast milk. Mm hmm. Yep. And cereal. Yeah. In cereal was delicious. No, you finished the whole bowl, right?

It was. Yeah. I was like, I think there's some rotten milk in the fridge. And they're like, oh, no. In fact, you finish the whole bowl is the best part. I was like 12 years old. Yeah, but you should have known better than you're only like 11 years out of drinking breast milk. Yeah, it was it was it was we're on a family trip.

It was wasn't a fridge I was familiar with. I was just trying to get some milk for my cereal. I love the idea of Hank being perplexed by a new fridge. Yeah. Well, no, it was just like the milk was in a different bottle. But I was like, oh, this is just, you know, vacation milk. Here's the breast milk. All right, I got a few who's backs. The first one is Joe Missoula.

Joe Missoula's back did not get fired by the Celtics. Do we have comment from our Celtics fans? Yeah, I do. We just signed Sam Cassell to the roster. Missoula is like he got a lot of flak during the playoffs, but people do forget that he came back down 0-3. And and he was down in the Sixers. They he had to win those last two games to advance the Eastern Conference finals.

Yeah. So I'm pretty confident as a Celtics fan coming back as a Celtics fan. Max, you know that like that Sixers team was probably the best team in the individual team was really it was the best team. Maybe it's really, really good coaching. Yeah. So for Missoula to to fight as hard as he did against those Sixers. That's like, yeah, you got it. You got to extend that guy. That guy's Boston tough. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I'm I'm happy for my sees running for the next year.

Let's go green. Hank was I think at one point looking for if there's a mute button of Max. Hank, thoughts on Max's thoughts. I mean, he's just a sad, sad human being. Like, I don't like get over it. I don't I don't understand this. I don't, you know, I told them before, I was like, I'm going to bring up Missoula. Make sure you have something to chime in on.

We got Sam Purcell, Sixers coach of legends. So yeah. And then related to my who's back, that who's back is Mark Zuckerberg, because similar to Joe Missoula, he likes to practice some Jiu Jitsu. And there was a report that he got choked out during a competition. And then there was an update on the report that said from this from Joe Bernstein, who I guess wrote it maybe in the New York Times. Yeah. He said, update after publishing our story, I heard from both Mark Zuckerberg

and his Brazilian Jiu Jitsu coach. They both insisted that Mr. Zuckerberg had not lost consciousness. And the coach said that the referee had mistaken his effort for grunting for snores. So just so we're clear, Zuckerberg was not at no point was he choked out. He was. So everything that I've read on Facebook, all those posts are actually misinformation about Zuckerberg being choked out. So many people would sign up for Jiu Jitsu if they knew that there was a chance that they would get to choke Zuckerberg out, though.

But Zuckerberg, how do you not have a PR guy to be like, OK, we got a crisis. There's a report that you got choked out. The last thing you want to do is have an update to the report being like, just so we're clear, we talked to multiple people. He was never choked out because now I'm like, dude, the guy got choked out. You don't have to update saying I wasn't choked out unless you were very clearly choked out. If you get submitted by like a rear naked choke, you got choked out. Yeah. You you absolutely got his grunting was they thought his grunting were snores.

Yeah, his grunting was actually just he was just concentrating very. He was breathing. It's just a brutal thing to have to be like, hey, listen, it's the same as, you know, Danny Boy, Kane getting attacked by a bear or the guy who didn't fuck his cat. Did not come on his cat. He was nowhere near his cat with come Billy. Better PR spin. Why don't you just say Zuckerberg didn't tap?

Yeah, that's that's a way more badass. Yeah, he refused to tap. Yeah, that's a good point. Like I would I would respect somebody more who who just decided to go down with a ship and get choked out. Yeah, Jesus didn't tap at no point. At no point was Mark Zuckerberg choked out. No, not one Iota.

And then my last two is back is Golden Mug coming back Tuesday for Stella Blue. We got something for Father's Day. So maybe our best gift yet. So get excited on Tuesday. If you buy anything in Stella Blue Coffee Store, you are automatically entered to potentially get a Golden Mug. I'm like Charlie and Chocolate Factory. It's my favorite thing to do.

Just hand out Golden Mugs. So get excited for that. And if you're planning on buying today, wait till tomorrow and buy some tomorrow or buy both days, Billy. Really quickly to PFTs who's back. Just if you have spare time, Google Bodybuilding Forum, breast milk, best supplement ever. It's one of the funniest threads in there since like the how many days in the week

one that was all time. Yeah. Yeah. My other who's back is Chiefs Aholic. It was sent it to us. Yes. Nice. It was mis reported that Chiefs Aholic was put on the FBI's most wanted list. Who misreported that? Not me. Got it. It was mis reported earlier in the weekend. He was only put on the Kansas City Crime Stoppers list.

He's number five. But yeah, he's been put on there. Wait, the Crime Stoppers. How close does he do it to the America? But that's also confusing. That would make him the number one Crime Stopper. No, no, like the Crime Stoppers top 10. Right. As they got to rebrand.

It does make it seem like he's a superhero. Yeah, like Chiefs Aholic. He will stop any crime except for Jackson Mahomes. Yeah. But good for him. He's he's not been caught yet. Yeah. Like think about it. It is kind of crazy. He he's number five in Kansas City, which that's a little bit disrespectful to him.

Either that or Kansas City is doing a great job in terms of having like big criminals live in their town and not find them. But I would think that he would be number one, right? He's a he's a bank robber who's on the run from being charged with federal. I got a question. There's some pretty bad dude. I got a question. Has has he been heard from?

No, because this is I hope I'm never in this spot where I'm on the lamb trying to run for my life. Number one on the Crime Stopper list. But if I am, I would like everyone here to make a pact with me that you one of you. I'll kill myself and you hide my body. That way I live forever. OK, because like all it could be dead and you basically wouldn't know if you did a good enough job of hiding his own body.

Like you basically are a myth for the next 40, 50 years. Yeah, you live out your life and everyone assumes you're on a beach in Mexico, like at the end of Shawshank, right? It's like, he got it. He got away. Right. Until like you're like, you know, 100 years old, like, ah, he's probably dead. But up until that point, everyone's like, Chief Sahala could be back at any moment.

People start seeing you in the background of pictures that you're not in. OK, so that guy looks a lot like big cat. I'll do the same for anyone here. OK, so if you're on the run and it's like, you know, you got to run for the rest of your life. You just let me know where you want me to hide your body. We're really going to find out how committed he is to the Chiefs when football season rolls around.

Right. Is he going to be able to stay away from Arrowhead? Or is he going to go in a different car? You know what he should do? He should just become like a Raiders super fan. Yeah. And nobody will ever think that it's Chief Sahala. Like get dressed up in in like the Darth Vader outfit or the super fan of every team that Chiefs are playing. Yeah. Yeah. Just keep rotating.

Rotating basis. Yeah. It's like, no, the perfect crime. Yeah. That's not Chief Sahala. He doesn't even like the Chiefs. He gets to watch all of the games. He would probably actually rather kill himself than do that, though. Yeah. That's his level of dedication. It's pretty nuts.

He has about a quarter of a million dollars in gambling winnings from the Chief Super Bowl win. And he's he's probably in Mexico. But how did he get that once he was? I think he was able to cash out legally while he was being while he was in court because he wasn't guilty yet. But he probably can't use his his credit or debit cards, right? He has to have cash on him.

I'm not sure. So he's probably they're they're basically forcing him to rob more banks. Yeah. Yeah. OK. In my other who's back to 2008, Florida team. They're making a Netflix special on them. Nice. Like we said, they should. I guess this urban Meyer probably won't talk for that. No, probably. Well, it's a documentary, right?

So they are getting interviews. Matter of fact, most people that are involved with that team, you probably can't get an interview with to talk about that team. Yeah. Riley Cooper should talk. He should. He should do all the talk. Yeah. This one is back.

Eric Hernandez can't talk. Yeah, that was that's gonna be a great one. Mm hmm. That's gonna be incredible. Dan Bilzerian can talk, but he'll make them sign NDAs. They won't be able to use any footage. They might get Ryan Lochte just to comment because he's around. That would be cool. Bilzerian might talk.

I mean, he was just there. Yeah. Yeah. He'll definitely lie. He'll just like make up stories. Yeah. No. So there's one time I fucked Tim Tebow's girlfriend. Yeah. OK. I was I just come back from Afghanistan. Yeah. OK. Jake, your who's back.

My who's back. The defending champion, Water Dogs Lacrosse Club. Yeah. Opening day, overtime, winner, Connor Kelly, 1-0. Yeah. Undefeated. I'm calling it. Our goal this season is to go undefeated. There's 10 regular season games.

Anything less than undefeated is a failure. I watched the whole game. I wish we scored more. We should shoot more, which I've been saying since day one. But yeah, good job on the Water Dogs. Mm hmm. They did it. Also, I'm calling one of their games July 14th. Beautiful.

Yeah. Are you going to wear pants? Yes. Yeah, we heard you don't wear pants. No, I heard a lot of people have reported that you don't wear pants. What is it? Is it like a kink? It's just comfort. OK. Yeah, more airflow. Yeah. That makes sense.

Thank God you had pants on for your whole one. Yeah. Was there any part of that video you take back? Um, no. I thought your celebration was good. It's like it's a raw reaction. Yeah, right. It's running in circles. I don't know what to do with myself.

Yeah. I can't believe it happened. I can't. I can't believe it. Best golfer on the show. Yeah. Not even close. Not even close. Not the not the person who gulps the most on the show. But the best golfer. Best one here.

Yep. In the office. Best one here. OK, let's get to our interview. Rich Eisen in studio. Great interview with Rich. Haven't talked to him in like four or five years. It's awesome catching up with him before we do that. Peter, you got a quick sponsor.

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that needs a cameo, billions, law and order. No, I've never done a law and order. Oh, damn. CSI Miami. CSI Miami, that's law and order. Once you go Caruso, you can't go anything else. You can't go Hargitay. I'm a much bigger fan of Hargitay.

I understand, I'd never had an opportunity to Hargitay. I had an opportunity to Caruso twice. Yeah, yeah. And I still took residual checks. Oh, God. Yeah, oh, yeah. So we haven't seen you in, I think it's been like four years or so since you've been on.

Yes, Super Bowl. Yeah, a couple Atlanta Super Bowl. Couple apologies on my behalf. Michigan did turn out to be back. So congrats on that. Still haven't won a playoff game. Yeah, that's true. Which seems like something you want to do eventually

if you keep getting there. True. And we watched all of Game of Thrones and liked it. So there you go. I did tell you about that, right? Two big apologies right all that. I totally forgot about that. Well, no, because Rich told us to get into it

and then the last season happened. Yeah, that's true. Last season was subpar. You watched Game of Thrones. Yes, last season. Yes, I'm happy to be blamed for the last season not being up to the first several. Yeah, if you go back and you look at that interview,

I bet we actually come across looking like huge assholes for the Game of Thrones. We're like, oh, you like your dragon show, little dragon man. It's all good though. It's called evolution. I mean, look at you guys now. When I first was on the show,

you were not who you are today. I mean, you're father now. Yes, father three. You look like, you do look like you're paying attention to your personal hygiene. Yes, thank you, thank you. When you at least admit that. Yes, absolutely.

Shower every day. You're frozen in time. Yeah, no, I thought you were about to say. No, you haven't evolved at all. I thought you were going to say, yeah, you guys have evolved when I was on the show. It was actually funny. I'm sure your bank account has evolved though.

Yeah. So you guys are now a completely different spot. Well, no, I have a fictional son, Chris. Oh, really? He's four. He's actually, he's thinking about becoming a fan, defecting to smash away from the four aces. Is he a huge live fan because he watches the CW?

Oh yeah, he loves a four year old. It's a four year old. OK, all that stuff. But congrats on Michigan. Thank you. You guys beat Ohio State two years in a row. It's great. It's really good.

It's great. So are you a little nervous, though, that Jim Harbaugh is going to leave? Because he eventually is going to leave. No, that's part of the landscape with him, is that he's going to kick the tires on the NFL. He might actually play more than just footsy, like say on a national recruiting day two years ago

with the Vikings. And then last year got even closer. And if he leaves, then our whole piff winds up in a spot that makes him happy. And we'll be, and hopefully we'll find somebody like Luke Fickle. Yes. I told you, prior to our taping here, I think he's awesome.

And all Wisconsin fans will not know what to do with themselves when a fifth wide receiver steps on the field even once. Yes, we have like five quarterbacks now, probably better than every quarterback to not name Russell Wilson. It's going to be amazing, but it will be. So I'm concerned about that. The message boards are going to be very funny, though.

Once Wisconsin loses like a close game to a rival, there will be somebody on a message board that says, we got to bring the fullback back. What's this about? Why don't we run in the football anymore? It's what Nebraska's gone through for the last 20 years. Why are we passing on fourth and one? While you're going for it on fourth and one,

as opposed to previous years, that's number one. Luke Fickle, I love him. Again, as I said, I'm sure he's been on this show multiple times. He's funny. He's engaging. He's young. He's exactly who Wisconsin should be going for.

Now, do you have an apology for me? What should I apologize? Your basketball coach being a petulant child and smushing the face of my basketball coach? Well, it's two years ago. OK, well, we haven't seen you in four years. So I apologize on behalf of John Howard, not very Michigan man of him.

Well, your guy got in his face. Handshake, yes. No coach has ever handshake after a game. Are we really litigating this again? I would have dusted off my memory bank on this. Yeah, we haven't seen you in four years. We have a file that we keep for every recurring case of grievances that we have.

And then we unseal the grievances when we come back on the show. Just say he's not a Michigan man. That I would never say such a thing. Why would I say such a thing? Because Michigan men do not act like that. Well, he had a momentary lapse of reason. How does that sound? OK, OK.

But so I apologize that your coach got too aggressive on a handshake line. That's again, see, this is not very Michigan man of you like. Which is what? It sounds like a thing. A firm handshake should be something that's applauded amongst a Michigan man. Understood.

Yes. And it was aggressive. He should not have laid hands on your coach. Again, a handshake. It should not have been anything escalating to anything remotely close to what it did. Actually, you know what? You are sounding like a Michigan man, just skirting all blame

and being like someone else's fault. He shouldn't have done it. But that's what I said at the time, too. Had I come on the show then as well, I would have said it. I'm trying to think of other grievances we would have against Michigan men. Would you like to apologize for Kid Rock? So anybody that goes that's from the state of Michigan?

Yeah, he's Michigan. Well, Michigan. He's Michigan state. He's probably dated a stripper named Ann Arbor before. It's possible. No, I have nothing to do with Kid Rock at all. You disavowed Kid Rock. I disavowed Kid Rock.

That was a trap question. What about Ted Kaczynski? I totally disavowed him. OK, all right. Is he from Michigan, too? No, he went to Michigan. He got a PhD from Michigan. Did you just Google that?

Yeah, I did. I knew he did, but I had to double check. What did you Google? Psychopaths who went to Michigan. No, he said Ted Kaczynski. OK. And he went to Michigan for his PhD. That's where he learned how to kill people.

Didn't run into him on the quad or at the quad or in the dyag. OK. Didn't see him at the hash bash. OK. I didn't see him anywhere like that at all. What about Hunter Dickinson trying to hold the entire college basketball world hostage for like a month?

You want to apologize for that? I can't imagine that you are drilling down deep, right? Yeah, we're again. You're drilling down really deep. You didn't realize the trick I did is I came out and apologized right away. And then it's like, well, now the rest of the interview is just trying to find ways for you to apologize.

I'm apologizing for Hunter Dickinson holding up the transfer portal. Yes, correct. Is that what you're saying? Yes. Then yes, I apologize for that. I accept your apology. We uphold the dignity of the portal on this show.

How dare anybody gum up the portal? Patrick can't lay of the transfer portal. Everyone just jammed up behind him trying to get it. Got their iPhones timing how long it is. Yeah. Making memes. What about Ann Coulter? She's a Michigan ma'am.

Is she really? Yeah, she's a Michigan ma'am. Wow. Yeah, I just about her too. All right, good. Absolutely. We're getting it all out. I had no idea.

Who do you avow? Who is the most prestigious Michigan alum? Ah, who do I avow? Tom Brady. OK. Yeah. OK. I like him.

Adam Sheffield. That ends all conversations. It really does. It does. Like, yeah. Tom Brady is a conversation ender. And it's great. I love it.

I love putting that card on the table. But you guys didn't treat him well. We treated him. Drew Henson. Well, Drew Henson, listen, Drew Henson at the time was Mr. Michigan in multiple sports. And clearly, if he was going to go anywhere, Michigan was the spot to go.

And eventually, Lloyd Carven came around. I was at a game in Syracuse, actually, one time when Brady and Henson split quarters. He's crazy. I've never seen anything like it. And it was clear who was the better quarterback at the time. So yeah, I wish Brady had. But at least he didn't leave to go find his spot,

like, say, Joe Burrow. All Ohio State fans, pardon me, the Ohio State fans, who claim Burrow as one of their own. And they were, well, he thanked Ryan Day when he won the trophy, when he won the Heisman trophy. He talks about how great it was at Ohio State all the time. Like, he had to leave. No, you have to play at least a year.

You have to play at least a year to claim anyone. Or play and get your moments at the school that you're trying to claim him for. No, I agree. I mean, get out of here. I agree. That's loser talk by OSU. Like, how many NC State fans claim Russell Wilson?

I would if I went to. I think that's a 50-50. Yeah, it's a coin flip. Yeah, I think that's OK. Well, like, to Russell Wilson now, he's NC State. Super Bowl winner, that was Wisconsin. It's pretty easy. If you go to NC State, really, you

can hang your hat on two things. One, Chuck Amato's Sunglasses, which were awesome. Chuck Amato's Sunglasses. Great fantasy team name, by the way. Oh, yeah. And then the second thing you could say is, like, we are QBU. And then you list off Jacobi Berset, Philip Rivers, and Russell Wilson.

Mike at you. And Mike Lennon. Mike Lennon. Come on. I'm going to forget. Mike Lennon made a lot of money. Warnsett once referred to him on game day morning as Mick Lennon, like, like, McLovin.

Like, and it was, we really, we stopped. Like, what did you just call him? Mick, McLennon. Yeah, it's actually a fun hypothetical. If the NIL and transfer portal existed today. Yes. Tom Brady, he probably transfers. No, I think he's a Michigan man through and through.

I think he probably transfers. Listen, there's a sign there that says those who stay will be champions. Right, but I think. So he stayed, and now he's a seven-time Super Bowl winner in the GOAT. And it's a conversation ender. It ends the conversation.

How long do you have to stay to become a champion? Um, sometimes a little longer than expected. Uh-huh. Yeah. But that's a sign. Maybe he just. At Michigan. He probably appreciated the environment and the education

that he was getting at Michigan. I would agree. Yes, the diploma that's on the wall. If you stay long enough, we will invite the YMCA from Detroit and beat them, and we will be champions. That's, that's kind of what they say. Yes. Um, all right.

So I have a real question for you. Oh, really? He's over. I didn't realize you are a voter in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I am not. OK, you're not. So here's another question.

So you're right. Was that on the same Google as Ted Kaczynski went to Michigan? It's a big catch, right. I'm right. I didn't realize that you were a voter. So you're not. I am not a voter. Are you part of what, what, what do you have with the

Pro Football Hall of Fame? Do you not? I, I, I emcee their jacket dinner every fall. Do you ever aspire to be the one who knocks? No. OK. That means I got to get on a plane? I don't know other places.

But knocking would be cool. Knocking would be good. I wouldn't mind knocking. All right. So do you know anyone who's a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter? I think Peter King is. And what do you say that's like? I'm still going to go with my question.

I'm going to go forward with my question. I mean, he says it's kind of cool. OK, all right, all right, cool. So where are you, where are you going to go? Like, let's do it again. Let's do it again. I actually do. I thought, I don't know why I thought that.

But I always wanted to know what happens in that meeting, where they all sit and debate players' legacy for, you know, an entire Saturday. And they're like, OK, yeah, this guy's good. I heard it. Well, they used to do it the Saturday before the Super Bowl. They don't do that anymore. Yeah.

They do it a few weeks. So now they do a few weeks in advance. So now the knocks on the door are fully produced. Correct. With multiple cameras. You know, they used to shoot it like it was a sweepstakes winner at the door. Now it's multiple cameras and what have you.

But I don't know if that's the answer you're looking for. I have no insights. I have zero insights on that. I think there's probably some players that we could start standing on the table for. OK. Brian Mitchell should be in the Hall of Fame. Devin Hester.

Devin Hester should be in the Hall of Fame. Brian Mitchell, I think he has the most return yards ever. Maybe the most second most all-purpose yards in the history of the NFL. He's not getting in the Hall of Fame. Why not? Because I don't think return men get in the Hall of Fame. Except for Devin Hester.

Devin Hester should. And he hasn't yet. Barstool's own Deon Sanders. I'm sure you've had him on to talk about it. He gets really upset when it comes to this issue. About Devin Hester? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you're the best player at your position

all time, you should be in the Hall of Fame. It's very few people will Deon say to someone else saying that guy was better. Yeah. And he says that about Devin about returning. Right. And he would know a thing or two about returning. And then he loves Devin Hester.

He took him in as a kid. And then the night that Devin broke his return record was on NFL Network. And Deon was in the building in Atlanta, which was just amazing. Perfect moment. And also, well, I'm sorry that I'm pounding the table for his guy and not yours right now.

No, it's OK. That's whatever. But the Super Bowl against, obviously, the Colts, where the entire universe was thinking, will Devin Hester get a ball to return, let alone return one that he does actually get? And the Colts mysteriously kicked him to lead the game off. And he did it.

It's truly one of the greatest expectation meeting moments I've ever personally witnessed, ever, unreal. When it became a point of emphasis for each team to do not kick to Devin Hester, and then a kicker would make a mistake, he would just deliver. And it was just wild to watch that happen. I've never seen anything like that happen. It was like the matrix.

I couldn't believe he did it. And then to use the succession phrase, Rex fucked it. Yeah, he did. As soon as that happened. He did. Like the very next minute, it was over. Yeah, well, it was raining. It was raining.

Yeah, his pants didn't really work. Yeah, his prints performed in the run. That was the best half time show ever. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was incredible, too. In the Purple Rain, doesn't get any better than that. And also the press conference, the Thursday before,

where he took no questions, but actually played two songs for the hard-bitten cynical media that was there. And then everyone was getting up and dancing. That was unreal. Yeah, to get guys like your Peter King standing up and clapping along to something besides Bruce Springsteen is tough to do. Rhythmically.

Yeah, all he was clapping on the twos of the force. It was really impressive. All right, so what is your favorite thing you do in your job? Because you do so much stuff. I do love doing my show every day, because it's something I own now and do. But outside of that, it's the draft.

Yeah. There's nothing like the draft. It is the best. It is the best. It's wild how something that is essentially just the reading of names over a three-day period is so transfixing. It is something that I get into.

I totally geek out about it. I do not care what anybody else might say. I think it's unbreakable. It's something as long as everybody wants to actually gather around a television set for three days and watch an event where the power brokers are not physically there. It's the only thing in the NFL calendar

where nobody's there except the commissioner to read off names. I love it. I love it. It's the transaction of hope. You just sit there and you get delivered hope for your team over and over. Even if you trade down and you get picks in the future,

it's just hope. How many Bears fans had heard of Darnell right before the moment they heard of him? I actually had him as my number one prospect. You did? Across all positions. I did. PFT will back that up.

Is that a true story? He had right. I had Forbes 1A. Yeah. OK. Forbes 1A. So we have a little bit of a different draft board when people are saying Bryce Young.

It's like, quarterback's not that important. So yeah, Darnell Wright was number one. Yeah, is Bryce Young too short? Yeah. How about that? You really were asking me if he's too short. Is he too short? I have no idea.

Do you? No, because his eyes are tall enough. Everybody says the SEC is the ninth division of the NFL. Didn't seem to bother him there, did it? No, but we've got a theory on this show. And apparently, some NBA teams are starting to do this. They don't measure to the top of the head. You measure to the eyes, right?

Because who cares how tall somebody's forehead is? Right. It's wasted space above the eyes. So Bryce has tall eyes. So I think he'll be fine. Impressive. His eyes. I never thought of it that way.

Yeah, I mean, think about it. He's got the eyes of a 5'11 man. Like, why would you need the forehead space? Right, you don't. But doesn't Peyton Manning destroy that theory? Well, so we've talked about that. His forehead was, it got larger as he got older, as happens to a lot of us.

No, that was his wife doing that. Yes, yeah, that's true. I don't think there's a, that's a thing, that your forehead gets bigger as you get older. Berrybonds. Yeah. Well, I mean, your hairline makes your forehead look bigger. Conor McGregor's skull looks a lot bigger right now.

OK, well, he's taken many hits. I don't think it was. So I guess Peyton did too. Yeah. Good one. Good one. I like it. I saw your hot takes for this upcoming football season.

I did. My hot take. Well, Rich said five teams he thinks are going to make the playoffs. That are new, new, new. Oh, OK, I was about to come in hot. I was just going to say, I think, you know, I think the Chiefs, yeah, Lions were one of them,

which I think we can all probably agree. They seem like. I think they win the division. They're poised to make the playoffs. Yeah. Jets make sense. Yes. But then you had Ram Steelers Falcons.

Yes. Steelers I actually think make sense. Falcons is a little out of left field. Falcons, that division is completely wide open. Yeah. Who do you think wins it? The Saints, just because they got Derek Carr. I mean, I need to see what that looks like.

Camara might not play all year at all. I actually think depending on what happens. I kind of like Ritter, but I really like Heineke. Yeah. I feel like Heineke's probably going to start a few games this year. He might, but you know, and I know he's, you know, he's a fan favorite in many different ways,

but is he really going to? I don't know. I kind of think that it's going to be Ritter. I kind of think they're going to get that opportunity. I like what they did on defense, and I like the coach. Yeah. You ever had the coach on this show? Yeah.

Yeah, we have our dismissal. Good friend of ours. We've fixed this whole look. When you say good friend, what do you mean? We text with him pretty regularly. OK. Yeah. So good friend.

He's in good friend category. Basically, whenever we say something mean about his face, he'll send us a text and be like, hey, guys, that was messed up. Yeah. I was listening. Well, his face needs to be told to smile. Well, it's not that. It's the chin or lack thereof.

Really? Yeah. But we've worked on it. He grew a beard for a little bit, so he's looking better. You know, you got to respect him in many different ways. The one thing is he doesn't have to do what he's doing. Right. It's true.

That's very true. He could be in the Maldives right now doing whatever the hell he wants to do his life. And instead, he's making sure, you know, Heineck, he's up to speed if Ritter fails. Yeah. What does he, you know, it's impressive. You know what, Rich?

I've never noticed this about you. You are a good chin guy. Hmm. You've got a great chin. Oh, OK. Thank you. Yeah. And a good beard.

Maybe donate to Arthur Smith. That's all I got left, man. Yeah. That's it. Now you got some hair. No, not much. On the side. It's OK.

Have you thought about going just straight dick? Deion, going straight what? What'd you say? Dick? Oh, I just wondered what you said. No, I heard that too, Rich. Yeah. No, you can answer either way you want.

Full on ball. Like nothing. No, I've never thought that. I have thought the other direction, which is Deion wanting me to get the fake hair guy to work on me. I have actually given that thought. You should do that, Earl Lacher's guy. Earl Lacher is the same guy.

Yeah. Restore, whatever it is, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the fully shaved is always a tough, because you basically have to straddle the fence of, like, is he a white supremacist? I don't know if anyone ever could screw me with one. You see a guy with, like, a fully clean shaven head,

and you kind of do a stop. You're like, wait, OK, he's just bald. Do you think that about Van Pell? Yeah, of course, really. He's got some very toxic ideas. Until he explained to us, it's actually, it's a symbol, it's a Hindu symbol that he has tattooed. OK.

Yeah, and then I was like, oh, that makes sense. OK, you're a religious historian. Understood. Yeah. Just trying to think of other completely shaved bald head guys. Jay Glazer? Glaze.

Yeah. Dude, he's like the Jew bear. Yeah, I know, but. He's not a white national. I'm just saying, like, there is, when you see a guy with a fully shaved head, you do have to pause and be like, what happened here? Yeah, so I've paused, and I'm not going to do that.

OK. I have given thought to the other direction, but it just would be weird. It would be so weird. It would be weird. I don't know. You should do it. You think?

Go through a midlife crisis on it. Just go totally through it. Just right in the middle of my show, like, right around, like, you know, 130 Eastern, have a total complete breakdown where I start revealing problems with my life personal, professional. I air all grievances, and then on live, rich eyes and show,

air, get the process, get the procedure. Some TRT. It'd be great for ratings. You think? Yeah, it would. It would be. Interesting. Do you have any grievances you'd like to air?

Right now? Yeah, do you have any beef with anybody? Ooh. Who's Rich Eisen's biggest enemy? I don't have one. I don't think. You got some of this piss you off. That's pissed me off.

Yeah. Or maybe a storyline or something about media. Trait of media. Trait of media. The way the media talks about something. Huh. Well, yeah, I mean, the obvious one is, you know, the way that the rest of our sports world

talks about things and complete absolutes, arguing with each other, yelling and screaming. I mean, that's why your show in many ways is so popular, is the two of you guys get along and it's fun. It's fun watching friends shoot the shit. That's why PTI is as good as it gets. Yeah. But the arguing and the screaming and the yelling

and just knowing the next morning when LeBron screws it up, that somebody's just going to go all in on him and. MJ's better. And then making sure. Yeah, well, yes, if you want to have that conversation. I would. Oh, we just did. Yeah.

Yeah, it's over. Yeah, right. MJ's better. We just had it. Complete. Yeah, but then not caring about being right, just wanting to be heard. Then let's invite that person on the show to hash it out.

And then, you know, if I would be that person, now I'm lending my platform to legitimize theirs. And that's the sort of cycle that this thing goes in. And if I don't go on your show, then I'm weak. I won't respond. I won't come back. I won't own what I've said. That sort of toxic stuff in our business that sucks.

But it sells. It does. I'm not going to say it doesn't. But I'm doing something complete opposite every day. You know, like when Ross Tucker gets on your show with your name on it and says something stupid about how great Princeton football is, then do you ever think about having Ross Tucker back on?

Well, that's that's Dan's show. Oh, he doesn't do your show. No, I thought I've seen him on your show. By the way, I'm a whole pro football. All the famed voter Dan Patrick here on Pardon My Tech. I just assumed that Ross Tucker fills in for everybody's show. No, it's not Dan's guy. Yeah.

Would you have Ross Tucker on the show? Sure. Who's your main fill in? Oh, is it? It's my wife. OK. She fills in. Who else is filled in?

Albert Beers filled in? No, Tom Pelicero is filled in. OK. Handful of other guys. I don't like getting out of my chair. Right. I like doing it. Right.

We kind of feel the same way on this show. Like we enjoy doing our show, even though we've done it what, seven years, which I mean, in the grand picture of things, is not that long to do. Like you've been doing your show. You've been on TV for what? 27 years. 27 years.

But you still have that feeling like you don't want to leave. You don't want to let somebody else take your job even for a second. You're your control freak. If you do it, we're doing your control freak. Yeah. How many days in a row of you? Like what's the record number of days in a row you have recorded at least one version of the show?

For Hank? Three. For you guys. Well, I mean, there's days that we only release three times a week. So, yeah. But I release one a day. Right. Yeah.

Right. You know, bonk. What do you think? Like retirement anytime? Oh, Jesus. What's the matter with you? I'm 53. No, I don't.

I would like to be retired by 53. No, I'd like to work less. I mean, but I love doing what I'm doing every day. And plus whenever I'm out of the chair, I notice, you know, my show is a podcast version and also there's YouTube and there's various different ways to distribute it, other than they just broke who every day, you know, is a drop off. So I don't like getting out of the chair.

So, but is there a moment? Are you worried at all about reaching a moment where you feel maybe out of touch? Like when you get to a certain age, I come on here to show I'm in touch. Yeah, I'm not saying you're there. I'm just saying that is something I think about where it's like there will be a moment where it's like, oh, I kind of miss this story or I don't know what people are thinking anymore. Really?

Yeah. No, yes. You're setting what people are talking about. Right. But it definitely happens to everyone is you can't stay young forever. Right. So that just doesn't even enter your thoughts. No, honestly, it doesn't.

I don't. I do think, you know, about the way the business goes and what is of interest to people and how they consume it. And will that pass me by? I don't know. Like that's the sort of stuff I think about. Right. You know, where, where, you know, how old are your kids now?

Four, two and new. OK, so they're going to start watching things on a phone. Like for me, I'd be like, get out of here. Right. But that's that's it. And then anything that's 30 seconds to 45 seconds long for them is a show. Right. You know, for me, it's, you know, a distraction.

Right. So that's that's the way the world is going. And that's the way people are consuming their stuff, you know, on demand. You know, how many how many live shows have you guys done? I had no idea. Like actual live shows. Yeah, like, like, let's turn the cameras on and what you said. Never. And we live stream.

Right. Sure. But no. I mean, like a live part of my take. Yeah. No, no. Never done one. You want to do it? Not really. No, because we sit down, we write the show for three hours before. So this has all been scripted.

Like when Big Cat, I was like, where is the research coming? You've already asked me incorrect questions multiple times. I sat down this morning. I was like, Big Cat, you should ask him about his Hall of Fame vote because he doesn't have one. Yeah, that's going to get him. That's going to get him uncomfortable. Yeah, but that's fine.

We navigated it perfectly. Is there a post meeting where you're like, why did you give me that if it was wrong? No, we crushed that portion of the show. So there's a job well done. I mean, I think a live show could be fun to do at some point. But we also the way that we tape the show sometimes is at border. Like this isn't going to come out for another few days or never running.

Maybe I'm the exact opposite. It's weird for me to do something on tape. Yeah, yeah, because I love doing it live and I love not rehearsing. And I love just getting out there and and then being done with it. Yes, that's what I like. I think our other thing which we love having is the ability to tape late at night and be in people's phones when they wake up in the morning.

Don't really want to wake up at four in the morning. But that's that's why you guys, many reasons why you're successful is again, that the number of times I've been told, hey, big moment just happened. Just shoot something on your phone and post it. And I'm like, you know, I got shit to do. You know, I've got three kids. I've got two jobs.

I got lots going on. So I'm just going to let me pull over to the side of the road and do this. And the answer I get back is, yeah, yeah, like that's the way of doing things. Like that's that is the way people consume things now. And I'm that's where I catch myself. And I'm like, yeah, like pull over to the side of the road and do this thing and just send it in and then you're done with it. And I that's you push back at that.

Yes, of course, I do. I do. I'm like, you know, it's not like the Truman show where I'm going to have somebody follow me around and my whole life is on TV. And I know that's the complete extreme of just pull over to the side of the road and shoot something for two and a half minutes and hit send and we'll handle the rest. That that to me is that's my concern, not that I'm out of touch about what people are talking about. Right. As long as I still do what I'm doing every single day

and watching the shows that I'm watching that I think people are watching also and music and and and movies, I think I'm in tune on that front. Yeah, it's the other stuff about, hey, you know, let's let's come up with rich eyes and plus. Well, what is that? Well, we'll do this and that. And some other people will pay you this money to get plus. I'm like, what the fuck is plus like everything's plus now? There's an NFL plus, you say, in succession, living plus like there's always a plus.

Yeah. So that like if I don't keep up with the pluses, then maybe you're a minus. Look at you. Look at that. You know, math. Damn. That's impressive. To a little bit. Rich, I remember back in 2013, you you invented. Was it? There was an app that you put out. I think you had a tender, right? You know, it was.

Invented. Because I didn't invent Tinder. This was like 2013. Yes. I remember when the app came out. You invented a dating app for sports fans to find fans of their favorite sports team and and start talking to them online and into the real world. That happened. I invaded that app in 2013. And how to go?

Well, I just I wrote a blog post about it. And so I was out there trying to find women that wanted to talk to me about whether or not Joe Flacco was elite. And it was what you find. It was a fertile nesting ground, my friend, for your sex life or for your Joe Flacco conversation. OK, I didn't get laid off of it. But I remember when it came out, I was like, oh,

shit, Rich, Rich is inventing a dating app right now. Can you walk us through what that was like? Yeah, that came from. It was a PR guy that I was with at the time. He's just like, you got to do something other than just what you're doing. Plus. Yes, exactly. And he came up with this idea and I'm like, OK.

But, you know, I'm married with three kids. Like that might be the last guy to be the face forward of like, come on and hook up through your love of the Ravens. You know, I mean, maybe that's why it didn't work or everything else just kind of sucked about it. But that was that that burned out real quick. Did you use the app at all? I did not use the app.

That's the other thing is they wanted me to be on it like, hey, watch a football game on the app and go back and forth with people. Yeah. And I love when people call into my show. I love this. You know, I did stand up back in college. So I always like the immediate feedback of saying something. But I just couldn't bring myself to just let's get online, you know, and just chop it up. I just couldn't do it.

Sounds like you basically invented a message board with actual chicks. It's what I do. It's being like, I'm a chick. I don't think there's a there's let's put it this way. I think there's a germ of an idea in there. Yeah. It exists. Yeah. I just didn't know how to freaking do it. And I probably am like the last guy you'd want to be, you know, hey, come on in here.

I think the idea is just go hook up. I think it's not like men seeking women. I think it's men seeking other men. You could kind of like a grinder slash sports fan. Could be that. Or you're like, I just want to find some bros that we can like debate whether like Joel and Pete can win a championship or not. Well, if you recall, when you got through the initial portal

and it was fast because they understand your problem with slow portals. Yes, that that you were able to choose who you were looking for, which gender you were looking for at the top. So I'm telling you, it's there. I search for guys. It exists. Yeah. Just to get into a sports debate with. Yeah. Just like a random to meet up or we had the idea on the show

a few years ago, just an app where you can meet up with a guy to fight. If you want to just like go fight in a park. Yeah. Get the aggression out. Jay Glazer would actually be a great face for that. He would be. He would. Yeah. And it's Jim. Get glazed. Yeah. Glazed. Glazed plus. Glazed plus.

What are your expectations for Rodgers and the Jets? They are very high. Really? Yeah. So Super Bowl? No, because nothing that good can happen to me. Right. Or Jets fans. It's just, you know, let's just put it this way. The bar that Farve set in this situation,

which is win eight of your first 11, then sorely disappoint both got it off the field. Yeah. Right. Then that that's and then not make the playoffs and then use it as a transfer portal for you to work out your own revenge strategy against the Packers. That's that's the bar. I have a feeling Rodgers will leap that bar.

I agree. Despite how tough the schedule is. But this is a better roster and a better coaching staff than the one that Farve inherited. And again, I'm using that as the example for obvious reasons. And so I do believe this team will make the playoffs. And I think we'll win a playoff game and will be at least that fourth seat in this game of musical chairs that three of the seats seem to be occupied over a year

in the final four in the AFC with Borough Allen and Mahomes. Two years ago, that was Tannehill's seat. Last year, it was Trevor Lawrence's seat. I see no reason why that can't be Roger's seat. Now, speaking, you know, the three of us, we are not. Let's just say we don't really know what good quarterbacking looks like. That's fair to say jets, bears and commanders. Is there a small party that will feel a little dirty, kind of betraying?

There's there's like a brotherhood of franchises where it's like, no, we'll never have a quarterback. Do you feel like you betrayed that a little? Like, would you even know like when you're watching the Jets and Aaron Rodgers makes a competent throw? Yeah, like, what would that will look like? Yeah, what it will feel like. I have no idea. Honestly, I might if you're going to watch good off, if you know

anybody like I might have to reach out to people who are used to seeing high quality quarterback play right in their spot. I would I would need to reach out to that person because you're right. I mean, Sanchez was the last one, I believe, who was consistently good enough. Interestingly enough, born out of far of leaving. So it's it's been a long time, man. And last year was brutal and putting all your hopes and dreams into some kid at a BYU who clearly wasn't ready.

It's very rare for a coach and a general manager to survive that. And yeah, they're about to. And I think they're set up. I really do think they are set up. And I think Rodgers is pain. I know that. I know I know I'm setting myself up by saying that it is set up. Yeah, totally know where the trap door resides. And the schedule, again, is really insanely tough.

But I do believe Rogers can be Brady 2.0 in terms of playing deep into his forties, if that is something he wants to do. He doesn't look to be a broken down guy. He looks to be the exact opposite, taking care of himself. And so, yeah, the expectation level is high. There is that moment for fans of, I guess, abused fans of franchises like ourselves, where the quarterback releases the ball and your instinct is to go. Oh, no. Yeah, but anticipating an interception happening.

Yes, it's going to take you years to unlearn that habit. You know, when when Rogers starts throwing passes, you're you're going to still revert back to that. Oh, it's the Jets quarterback throwing a pass. Here comes an interception. It's going to be a process. Oh, of course. And especially if they go 10 and one, I'll say how they're going to blow this. Right. If they go into the playoff game, how are they going to blow that? Like, that's truly the way I'm wired when it comes to being a Jets fan.

But that's been 50 years of learned behavior. And by the way, well learned behavior. And so I would be amazing if he honestly, I said this just this past Super Bowl when I strolled into the stadium and I saw the Chiefs and Eagles logos in the end zone. I'm like, I don't know how I would react if I just saw the word Jets in an end zone for the Super Bowl. They won Super Bowl Thursday last year with NFL honors, with the offensive and defensive rookies of the year.

I'd like to push it for three more days and win the Super Bowl Sunday. They're getting close is what I'm saying. Yeah. When Super Bowl Thursday, you're close to Super Bowl Sunday. That's true. We're going to find out. Yeah, we're going to find out. Have you had the thought in your head, what if this doesn't work out? Because that's also the scary part of being fans of franchises. Like, I've had it's a fleeting thought that pops in my head every now and then.

Like, what if Justin Fields isn't the guy? Like, this will break me probably worse than I've ever been broken. Yes. That be the same if Aaron Rodgers is like an abject failure. If it doesn't work out, it can't be any worse than had they just stayed with Zach Wilson. That's the way I'm looking at it. But the expectations are so much higher, so I think it could be worse. No, you can't talk me into hating myself. I'm just asking.

No, I'm just saying I look at it in terms of realities and alternatives. The reality is this, they're set up. Let's see how it goes down. And it's better than the alternative, which was to run it back with this kid because Rodgers was uninterested because the roster wasn't his liking or the jets blew the negotiation with the Packers. That's those are the alternatives that would be far worse than me being disappointed by his actual play.

That's the way I'm looking at. OK, that's smart. That's healthy because there's no other way for me to look at it. Yeah, because if Zach Wilson went through the schedule that they have just had placed in front of them, that reeks of four and 13 at the best possible scenario, based on what we saw last year and how the jet fan base was became, you know, like cannibals when that kid stepped on the field. They were ready to eat him alive because we all saw it with our own two eyes.

The better option is that. Now, let me ask you a question. Commanders, we got to change that name, right? It totally sucks. New guys like the new ownership comes in. Yeah, they've got to get rid of that. So I would love to see them go back to Washington football team. Yes. And then change the name again.

So have like five name changes. So get one more placeholder. Yeah, yeah, do a placeholder season. Yes, Josh Harris. Yes, because the commanders, it was that name. I'm I'm pretty sure knowing the way that Dan runs things. He knew that he was going to have it be the commanders come hell or high water. It didn't matter what the fans wanted.

He wants to appeal. He wanted to sell season tickets to who? Raytheon to people from Virginia and Maryland that work in the military industrial complex. Yes. A lot of retired military people there by by season tickets. So he was like, OK, let's the NFL always kind of flirts with this line, too. They think that they're part of the military. I think they believe that they're another branch of the military, right?

Officially at this point, right? But Snyder wants to kind of lean into that. And so he wanted to go with the commanders to appeal to that segment of the fan base, not realizing that that segment of the fan base does not give a shit about at all. Washington football team. First, you have to win football games occasionally, right? In order to like suck up to that part of your fan base.

So I think it was set from the get go. It was going to be the commanders. Right. If I'm Josh Harris, I'm taking over a team. What did Bill Parcell say? Like change everything, change the carpets in the facility when you take over? Yeah, just change everything about that place, because the stink of losing in the last 30 years, the Snyder's stinch and his fingerprints are all over that team.

Change it to the football team again. And then the year after that, change it to the hogs. The hogs would always made the most sense. Yeah. It's a great name. Can you imagine like cartoon pigs with like, you know, sharpened fangs and then you don't have to change Major Tutty, right? You got to change that, too, because that's an awful name for a mascot. I love Major Tutty. What do you mean?

I mean, he's a he's a cool pig. I'm but the name, though. Yeah. Our party like who? Honestly, have you ever watched a game and just where somebody turns to you goes? How many tutties this guy going to have today? Yes, Steven. What a great what a great tutty. What? Oh, my God, did you see that?

Tutty out of Maclaurin. You're sounding old right now. Get out of here. Yeah. Come on. You're telling. So we so we've now roosted on Tuddies, Tuddies, this is where I'm now out of touch. Yeah, we say to get out of here. And we say that's a house call.

Yeah, we all watch the games together. And above the wild wings. You do not we stand up in a chest bump with fans of opposing teams because we just we love ball football's family. You do not say that. OK, of course not. The name Major Tutty has. By the way, he was a good one.

You made you. I made you nervous. Have you had me for a split second? I'm like, wait a minute. Have I lost touch? Yeah, Major Tutty seems like it's a it's a name that's almost so bad that it's good now where I've leaned into it and it's like Major Tutty. He's the giant hog.

You remember Steely McBeam? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was where he looked like Cower. You know, if if Cower and the Purdue Boilermaker or Gene Katie had a baby, it came up with Steely McBeam. Even they ditched that. You got to ditch that. Like, I'm surprised everything needs to be changed.

Everything needs to be changed. I'm just I am actually super excited about and hopeful for the future for the first time and what it feels like forever. Like teams, there are so many teams out there that have the, you know, sell the team shirts. We got to fire this owner and it never happens. I thought I was going to die before Dan Snyder sold the team. And he did. And and he sold the team.

And you're still here. And I'm still here. And I managed to see the day that I never thought that I'd see. And really, the future is like, I feel like unlimited at this point. Now, it's going to come crashing back down once Jacobi Bresset starts, you know, eight games and goes three and five or whatever, halfway through the season. Right. But if that leads to Caleb Williams, what do you care?

Yeah, and then that would be back. But at this point, I have an infinite number of Super Bowls possible in my future, which is a great feeling. No truer statement that that normally is the quiet part to be set out loud. Josh Harris, the new owner, saying, essentially, they were going to make a ton of money merely because they're not Dan Snyder. Right. And it's true. Think about this. Dan Snyder bought the team.

I want to say eight hundred million dollars right back in 98. And he managed it just about as poorly as you can manage any sort of business. Like he might be the worst business owner in America. Yeah. And then he sold it for seven billion, six billion dollars. And say you guys should because mascots are for kids, right? Like that's what the reason the master is there. Yeah, you guys should just have Santa Claus be your mascot and be like Santa Claus roots for the commanders.

You can't boost Santa Claus. Yeah, right. Max. Yeah, Max. He's a silly guy. A silly guy. Here's a hypothetical for you. Great reaction. He's been even beaten down hypothetical for you that we toss around because we're talking about our terrible franchises. Yeah. Next 50 years, I say to you, you win one Super Bowl

and you don't go to the playoffs the other 49 years or you go to 15 Super Bowls and you don't win any of them. Oh, you go to 15 and don't win. Yes. And it's the saddest thing ever to say. Of course, like people who root for teams that win are like, dude, flags fly forever. It's like 15 years of going to the Super Bowl. We'll be pretty sick.

Unbelievable. Yeah, it's sad, though. You realize how sad that is. I understand how sad it is. And I totally agree with you. Yeah, it's pathetic. Do you consider the bills of the 90s a dynasty? No, come on. I mean, come on. They are. No, no.

Of course, they are not a dynasty. In a way, they are there. We'll never see that again, ever, ever. We saw Brady, we saw Brady with the Patriots in Belichick and they didn't make four in a row. I wouldn't say ever. I would. I mean, we're going to see like we're four Super Bowls in a row.

The Chiefs were, you know, half time away from being four in a row. Not am I right? Yeah. Because they went to Bengals. They beat the Niners. They lost to the Bucks. Bengals beat them when they were up 21, three and a half. And they went this year. And then they didn't. So they didn't make it.

I understand, but I would say that they came close. The Chiefs might be Mahomes. Is that anything that the Chiefs are doing as long as Mahomes? I mean, Borough, again, like I said, quiet parts sit out loud. Him saying, as long as I'm here, we've got a window to win. Yeah, is as true a statement as anybody can say. And I love that about him. You could say the same thing about Mahomes,

yeah, Alan and those guys in the AFC. So I hear what you're saying, but the bills of the early 90s dynasty, there's names from that team that are all over the Hall of Fame. And I know because I've been there even though I don't vote. So, yes, I think they're a dynasty, but at any rate, yeah. So you would say so if a team goes to 15 Super Bowls in 50 years and let's just say they bunched a bunch of them together and lost them all.

Yeah. Four in a row. Really, really good team, really good team. Even in your own scenario of what you would choose. Really good team in their own way. They are done, but not official. Yeah, you got to win one. You got to win a couple. You got to win a few in the span of five years.

That's a dynasty. Yeah, I think three and five. I get it. I understand what you're saying, but four in a row. It's a losing dynasty. Plus, the problem for them is they got blown out in three or the four. Like absolutely destroyed. Yeah, yeah, that's a problem. Can you imagine if you went to 15 Super Bowls and lost all of it?

How many different tattoos people would get of like you'd have hope every time. Yeah, every offseason. You'd have hope every time. I know. Great. Yeah. And you get to go to the parties, you get to enjoy all of the month of January because your team's winning. That'd be great.

You get an extra month of joy in your life. That's true. And this helps your point. We basically broke it down to you'd win 15 NFC champions, championships, which would be awesome or AFC or AFC. But like that would that would be awesome. That would rule. So you think Justin Fields is the guy?

Yes, I do, too. I think they made the right move. Yes, I don't know. There's always because football is such a tough sport to build a roster around. That still is an element of what if because the fear is that he isn't the guy for the Bears the next couple of years. And then he gets he goes somewhere else. And then he's really the guy to a functional organization.

Sort of like him with Georgia. Yeah, kind of. Exactly. Nice little dig at Ohio State. I like you're on top right now. You get to do this to Ohio. I love it. It's it's so great. How scared are you, though, on a scale of one to 10 of going back to Canton and ripping that place a new one? No more time in front of an entire auditorium.

No, Ohio State Party, the Ohio State fans. How scared are you that in a world it's it's a crazy thing that could happen. But if Urban Meyer came back to Ohio State, you'd be back to just sucking against them. No, he owns you. Dude, he owns you. He was your daddy. He was. He was your daddy. No question. And it does feel the Ryan Day comment that Jim Harbaugh made, born on third, does feel a little true because he did inherit probably the best running

or, you know, program and he's one when he went to Alabama. That was not what it is now. Right. He walked into a like fully functional national title contender. Yeah. And he hasn't beaten Michigan. Well, he hasn't beaten Michigan, but he's beaten everybody else. It's not like he hasn't done the job, which is. Oh, look, you don't want to start. No, I like Ryan Day.

Yeah. Yeah. Has he beaten everybody else? Pretty much. Like, look at his record. He's lost twice to Michigan, maybe one here or there in the regular season and then once to Georgia. Yeah. That's about it. I mean, he's he's done a terrific job. But Urban Meyer coming back would ruin you.

Listen, let me just say this. And and I have, you know, I'm not telling any tales out of school because I say it in front of any live microphone. I got to meet Urban Meyer when he did the draft with us on NFL Network. Couldn't have been cooler. Couldn't have been nicer. Did you try to finger your butt? He did not. OK.

Because we were on television. Yeah, right. Right. So just stop him. No, no, there's cameras. It was in Chicago. It was great. Plus, that's probably illegal in parts of Illinois. I don't know. Putting fingers up butts. Who knows? Long story short is he could not have been nicer, cooler,

exchanged phone numbers. He came on my show a couple of times. And so that said, what he did in Jacksonville is truly the worst, biggest, most monumental flame out in the history of coaching. There's no other. I mean, he's a college coach. You got to you got to put it up there and say that he's a college. He had the golden ticket. He had an owner who's all in.

He had an owner who's all in with an eight figure annual check and Trevor Lawrence totally. Yeah. Absolutely and completely blew it. So I guess if he comes back to campus and lays down the urban law, then that would work again, I guess. But bring it. Oh, it would bring it. Bring it. It would bring it. I love it.

Michigan's also in a much better place, much better place. So you've got a great roster. So so if he does, then he does. But as of right now, again, I view in realities and alternatives. The alternative was the first five years or seven years of him with urban. And then what we got now, which is a much better team and a much more enjoyable team that's tougher to beat in bigger spots who have now beaten Ohio State twice in a row.

Yes, the greatest thing I'm loving it. I love the way that I mean, we're Harbaugh guys, and I love the way that you guys, not just the beating Ohio State, but the way you have done it. So do you root for Michigan when you play Ohio State? I root for Jim Harbaugh. Do you root for Michigan? So you when you're watching the game and I'm sure I bet.

I bet I'm sure you've got something on it. No, I bet Michigan two years ago when they shocked the world and I bet him again this year. So there is video of you celebrating a Michigan win. Yes, because I bet on Michigan. Can I see that? Can I? I'm sure we can find it. Yeah, and then I regret it when Dave goes on his like. I'll make it my ringtone.

I mean, how can you not root for Jim Harbaugh against Ohio State? Especially with you when he was when he was trying to win that game for the first time and the way that they did it, they just played like man football. We're going to run the ball down your throat. Yes, it's the best. It was cool. It was it was very cool to watch and keep doing it. And then everybody thought it was an outlier, a one off. They're not going to go into the horseshoe and do it worse.

And they did it. Yeah, well, weather, the weather favored Michigan. What's the weather? What are you talking about? God's a Michigan man. It's snowed excuse me. It snowed the first year, the second year it didn't snow. But it was bad weather. So it was cold.

That's all I hear is how great their line play is and how and how great they were. It was sunny and like, yeah, I don't know. No, it was actually really good. It was windy. We're there. Beautiful. I was not. Yeah, I was. I was actually there. It was cold as shit. And it was windy.

Good one. It was. So if if Urban Meyer did go back to Ohio State, I feel like he wouldn't have that same pull that he had when he left. Like he's the the shine is a little bit off. But why would they go in that direction? Because they want to be in football games. You'd cry yourself to sleep if you went back. I would not. Yeah, you would cry.

Laughing. No. Oh, I would. Now I'm rooting for this. Laughing. I would. You're asking for laughing. Yeah, you are. You're coming back. You're asking for. I'm asking for nothing.

You're asking for it. I'm not asking for anything. We're going to replay this. I will be happy. You want it. And it's a bad idea. I would love it. I would love it. He's shot. Shot. Wow. He's shot. No, I don't think so.

I think college coach. He he coached. I guess I guess an 18 year old that would be the top recruit to come play for him. Would love to be thoroughly dominated by him. The transfer portal wouldn't be anything that anyone would go run off to. You think Urban would be able to coach in the transfer portal era where somebody's basically like, I don't like the way you've treated me. You told me I can start.

I'm not starting. I'm out. You think he'd be successful? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Because the reverse is the reverse is he talks to all the guys who are trying to transfer somewhere else. And he says, hey, come here and you'll get drafted. Sounds good. Yeah. His his way or the highway.

And as you know, there's now a highway. Yeah, there's now a highway. Yeah, I want to seem good to know today. By the way, I think I'll be very Michigan had more draftees than Ohio State this time. There you go. Again, I might add. So let's just call it what it is, which is now a Michigan conference, which is it. I knew we'd get this out of it, which it is. Excuse me. This is right when the interview back to back seasons,

going to Indianapolis and winning that game. Yeah, I'm proud of you. I apologize. So and I thought you would at least show up in either one of them with that conference being the gimme end of the conference, you know, Wisconsin is it's been the worst four years in 30 years. I mean, you know what that's like. But it's coming.

Brady Hoke, Rich Rod. You know what it's like. Nice. You know how nice. Is Michigan a dynasty because they've reached the college football playoff? No, they're not around yet. They had to beat TCU. That one hurt. I took my son, my youngest son to the game.

It sucked. Can I confess something? I absolutely tune in to your show the next day. Did you really? Oh, yeah. I loved watching that. I was like, I can't wait to see the tears. Rich, talk about this. That's the only time you tune into Roku.

Listen, I just I specifically remember being like rich eyes. I mean, this is what this is what people do to us when our teams lose. Oh, yeah. I can't wait to listen. I love it. Yeah. I will take it. I obviously wear it on my sleeve. I love the school.

That said, I do believe Wisconsin will will win that. We're building a bully. Well, I mean, you're in the easy side of the big 10. Well, we don't know what it's going to look like in a couple of years. Well, you know, they're going to stick USC and Michigan's division. You know that. Possibly. Listen, maybe you maybe you take USC.

We'll take Indiana. You can take UCLA and we'll take USC because that's what they're going to do, because Michigan has to play the toughest teams in the big 10 every year. That's the way it is set up. Excuse me. Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State every year.

And then we'll get Wisconsin two out of every three. Then they'll throw in USC is coming. Nebraska. I know that was really mean. How you just said Nebraska. Well, my presence here is only going to serve to piss off Compton. Yeah. All right, so I had one last question. It's a row back question. Yeah.

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I don't have a beef with them. OK, so they're just playing it out. Beefless. It's beefless. Uh, LeWon came on my show. When was the Tennessee draft, the the Nashville draft? I think it was 2018, 2019. So he's he comes on my show and he says, I'm starting a podcast. I'm like, really, what's it called?

He called Bussin with the Boys and we're going to do it in a bus. And I'd love for you to come on. I'm like genius idea. I'm like, great idea. Congratulations. I love Taylor LeWon. We're Michigan men. I love him. I think he's incredibly talented, wonderful guy. So I'm like, I'll come on anytime. He goes, great. When are you going to come to Tennessee?

I'm like, what are you talking about? Like I'm here like you want to do it now? Well, I don't have the bus yet. OK. So when when when when are you coming to Los Angeles in the bus? He goes, oh, the bus is just the shell of the bus. There's no motor in the bus. I'm like, so you're doing a podcast on a bus that does not move. What's the point of the bus?

And he goes, it's just a cool bus. And I'm like, that's ridiculous. I am not coming on your podcast until you get a motor in that. He invited you onto the bus and not only does the bus not move, but then he said, we actually don't have the bus yet. Correct. OK, so it's a hypothetical. In his wildest dreams, he wants to be the owner of a bus that doesn't move.

Right. And at the time, hosting a podcast in it that had get to launch and invited me to come on it. OK. So I just thought it was totally asinine and I made a stand on the spot that to this day, he still doesn't have a motor. And then I see he does his show various other places with Compton. Yeah. And so even those like at the Super Bowl, I'm like, I'll do it.

Well, we think, you know, it would be best if you do it on the bus. On the bus. I'm like, when am I going to be in Nashville? I don't know. Last summer, I attempted to even fly in for the day. Luan couldn't do it. He was in training camp. You need to do that. You need to fly in when you know they're not there

and just take a picture in front of the bus. I would love to do that. I'm here. See, like, where are you guys? I'm ready. So that's not a bad idea, by the way. Yeah. So in the meantime, they've decided to post a photograph of me every single day. Their guy, Jack, if he continues to do it all the way up until me appearing, actually appearing on the bus, he gets a Chevy Silverado.

Oh, wow. So he is now up to day three, something or other. And there'll be it's funny. He'll post photographs. I'll be like, when did I do that? Yeah. Like it's really weird and wild. And then some are highly unflattering. I understand what they're attempting to do.

I'm a man of principle. I've attempted twice now to bend that principle and still appear. Like, for again, if also I see him take they didn't they take the bus to Nebraska? Didn't they do it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're halfway there. Tow it all the way to Los Angeles and I'm in. I'll do the whole hour. I'll do whatever they do.

I love that they towed the bus. They towed the bus. I'm like, they still like and the amount of money I'm sure the revenue they're bringing in, they could have put the greatest motor in the history of motor vehicles underneath that hood and actually driven it around and shown up to places. All right, that now that you explain it, that's a fair side. That's it. I have no beef with them at all.

I like them, you know, I think what they're doing is great. And but if people think I have a beef and plus if they want to keep photograph, you know, sending out photographs of me and it's good for you. Spelling my name right. Yeah, the rich eyes and business. Come on now, man. It's a it's a brand. They are your PR team. They didn't even realize they had no idea. They're completely like owning themselves. Here's our your marketing team. Yeah.

That's what they say. I'm in. We should name our studio in Chicago, the bus. And then we just. And you can you'll be our first guess. You want to come in the bus? Sure. We'll fly you out. Chicago is easier to get to. Yeah. I mean, there I'll I'm invariably will have a reason to be there. Yeah, you know, Nashville, I haven't done a Titans game in forever.

If I do, I'm there, you know, happy to do it. Yeah. OK. All right. Well, Rich, awesome to catch up. Great. Thanks for having me. Grants on everything. Appreciate it. We appreciate. Yeah. And when you come to Chicago, you got to come to the new office. Done. Have it all set up. Yeah, it's great.

Yeah, I can't wait, guys. Yes. Hell, yeah. It's going to be great. When are you going? We're going to have you in the bus. When are you? The new office going to open September. Oh, football for football. Yeah. Yep. So ready to go. I'm moving there on Thursday, Friday. We're fantastic. Yeah.

You're going. Yeah. Yeah. It's happening. You don't have you don't have any personal life, do you? You just pick up and go. I've got I get laid, Rich. OK, I got it. It's OK. He's actually on my app. Yeah, he's taking the train. He's just hopping on a free train with his little sack.

My spindle sack. He's just going to get out there. No, I've got a house with a roof and everything. No, I'm sure you I'm not saying you're indigent. Kind of said that. I'm going to be huge. No, I didn't. I just said, you know, personal life. Like you could just.

Oh, sure, you're moving from New York to Chicago. I'll go. Yeah, basically, basically, when we started doing this show, I was like, I don't want my kids when I have them. They were just twinkles in his eye. Yes, point. I don't want my future children to have to jump around schools. Yeah. So New York was never in the plan for the long term.

So you're doing this for the little cats, is what you're saying? Well, it was part of it. Yeah. But it's just getting out of New York is going to be nice. And having we've always wanted to have a fun factory. We've always wanted to have the big warehouse to be able to live. Oh, like Pats Thunderdome or something like that. Well, we've been thinking about for a while, too. Yeah.

OK. Yeah. More like Rob Geerdek. Rob Geerdek was the original fun factor. OK. But yeah, we've always wanted that pretty tough to do. And to find 40,000 square feet in New York City. Oh, so you're going to be somewhere in Chicagoland? Yeah. No, in Chicago. In Chicago. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's going to be great. We're very excited for the future. Yeah. Yeah. I love that city. Yeah. Yeah. We're invited to the bus. I can't wait. Well, congrats, guys. Yes, thanks, Rich. Thanks, Rich. You got it. Rich Eisen was brought to you by Omaha Steaks, baby. It's steak season. Yes. Love it.

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Great show. Should we do some numbers? Yeah. But I haven't said it yet. What was that? What was the article that was sent to you? It was about breast milk. Bodybuilders chugging breast milk.

Numbers. Six to nine. Six to nine. I hate that. That was Hank. Eighteen. That was Hank. Yeah.

That was Hank. Good job, Hank. Easy. That was Hank. Can we check the sound levels? Oh, sure. There's no problem. It was Hank first, me second, you third.

Yeah. It wasn't Hank had that easy. I can see it. Yeah. Go check. Billy, what is your number? 121. Okay.

99. Also, I got a one on eight today and 18's already my number. So it's... Oh, wow. Wow. Crazy. That is wild. I'll go with 17.

Max? 20. Imagine if it was 69. What? What, Billy? It doesn't even matter. Oh, it doesn't? No, you're not mad at all.

There's no money anymore. You're not mad. 88. Pool's 88. I love you guys. Better be quicker now, Billy. Baby owls may be mistaken for aliens. Yeah, but more on the dark.

Yeah. Have you ever seen what a baby owl looks like? Wait, you said in the dark. Yeah. When you can't see it. There's a whole story about... So just two eyes might be mistaken as aliens. Dude, just look up baby owls.

Okay, I'm going to look it up right now. Baby owls. Baby owls. Owl...owlets? Baby owls. Baby owls. Oh, yeah, I've seen that picture where they do look like aliens. Billy's right.

Oh, okay. The one where they're just standing. Yeah. But that's... Is that in the dark? So, like, imagine seeing that in the dark. Well, you... You couldn't see in the dark.

Because it would be the dark. But just think about it. So there's one picture that looks like aliens. No, no, there's a good amount. Okay. There's, like, a whole historical record about people being attacked by aliens. But then the next morning, they saw their barn owls.

Ah. Okay. Historical record. Still going to say morons. Yeah. Do you think you could fight one? Yeah, I'd fucking smash a baby owl. I'd smash a real owl.

That's a crime. That's a crime. A real owl? That's a crime, I guess. Give me the best... What's the baddest owl out there? Great horned owl. Fucking kick that thing to the moon.

Yeah, listen. Any bird. Dead. I will kill any bird. Even... There are a lot of, like, hawk. There are a lot of people that are trying to ask me about pterodactyls.

That's not a bird, first of all. No. Secondly, they don't exist. Dude, I've been watching... I've been watching Ice Age. Crime. Easily. I've been watching Ice Age with my kids,

Willie Mammoth. Kill. I would fucking murder them. Easy. An ostrich. Easy, Billy. If you give me... You put an ostrich in front of me,

I tie its neck into a knot. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Choke it out. Great week. I hope we run across some animals. Great. Kill all of them.

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