Pardon My Take - Richard Jefferson, Kentucky Derby, NBA Playoffs, S8E4 GoT Recap

Episode Date: May 6, 2019

Kentucky Derby ends in controversy and somehow gets political (2:27 - 12:01). NBA Playoffs are awesome. Celtics struggling to flip the switch, Steph gets stuffed by the rim, Kawhi is basketball robot, and Magic Johnson helps us make sense of the Nugs/Blazers (12:01 - 25:10). Embrace Debate for the NHL Playoffs (25:10 - 28:19). Who's back of the week (28:19 - 42:04). Zero time NBA All Star/Bronze Medal Winner Richard Jefferson joins the show to talk about the playoffs, how he dealt with refs that wanted to control the game, Kyrie as a team leader, and Kevin Durant being the most unguardable player of all time (42:04 - 62:04). Segments include "No Swag Off" for the New York Giants, Tim Tebow Update, Lebron Update, Monday Reading "my wife hung out with an athlete but didn't have sex" and the dumbest Game of Thrones recap on the internet (starts at 82:23). You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Okay. Let's go. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by the Cash App today is Monday, May 6th. We're in the new studio, kind of, we're in, there's a studio 1.1, studio 2.0 we move into later on this week, hopefully. Yes. Who knows when it's going to be ready, but right now we are squatting in a studio in our new building.

And just want everyone to know we did not bench press before this show. We will always put in the show notes if we bench press before the show. Did not this time, but we are here in the new office and we're ready to talk about everything, including the Kentucky Derby. Yes. I have some major news. Can you read the tweet? Big news.

Okay. I'm now a horse racing expert. Okay. I'm an expert on all the rules. Was this your first inquiry? Was this your first inquiry that you were a part of? It's called an objection. Yeah.

Well, and I love shout out to the NBC Sports Graphic team for getting the objection graphic going like immediately with that red block. I was like, I don't even know what an objection is, but I'm here for it. Just right off the bat. I just obviously were very woke about the whole thing. They goosed another 20 minutes of content out of the Kentucky Derby boosted those ratings a little bit, which by the way, they fucked up because they should have just ran the race earlier because the storms just got way, way worse and that actually, that's a bigger

story behind the story, but go ahead. The weather. Yeah. The weather was the big villain on Saturday. I just want to say I stand with our president who said that maximum security got disqualified because of political correctness. I think so too. When was the last time you saw a police horse win the Kentucky Derby?

True. Never. So the actual like change for maximum security losing, you know, getting kicked out of the race at the end. That was the correct call 100%. Do you agree? I think so. Yeah, I know.

So I think you can't. You can't. I think you're you're torque shaming maximum. No, he's got a big ass. Here's here's what people don't realize. Well, I think most people actually realize this, but maybe the people who only bet on the on horses that one day in Kentucky Derby, we were so fucking close to the biggest disaster that horse racing has ever seen.

Like I'm not joking. You don't think that this was a bigger disaster than then then the horse is falling all of each other. That's what that's how close maximum security was to war of will. Like that was as close to a huge disaster where like basically a NASCAR pile up of horses. Yeah, we almost saw the big one. It would have ended. It would have ended horse racing.

Ended the sport. It actually probably would have ended it because there's it's already on the ropes. You see these new whips where they're hitting them with pool noodles. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. If they had that kind of like, you know, disaster on such a big stage, it would have been it for horse racing. I'm OK with them going by the rules.

You can't just drift in front of other horses. You have to give them a path and it was awesome because it was awesome just because I was imagining what it would have been like. I didn't win, obviously, because I never went on the Kentucky Derby. But imagining what it would have been like to bet. What even was that fucking horse's name? Country home. Yeah, country.

Yeah, country biscuit. Sixty five to one to have pretty good to have it the race end and you're like, fuck, I probably shouldn't have bet that long shot. And then, boom, you you win and you probably only bet like five dollars on it. But still, well, that's a rush. If you think that this is over, you don't know rich people very well, because what's going to happen is this is going to go to court. They're going to appeal to it.

Yeah, they've already said that the one thing horse racing was missing was lawyers. But this happens all the time in horse racing. But this is not a new thing. But it's still not saying is the owners of the horse are saying that we are going to appeal to the state. And then and then if that doesn't win, we're going to take it for it. We're going to take it to court. So we might not know who won the Kentucky Derby for the next like year.

Yeah, these happen to be the someone found that old clip of when we went to the Breeders Cup, Hank, and I lost I lost like twenty two races in a row. And I was saying there's a clip of me saying I just want to be part of an inquiry once where I just have the chance of like, oh, my horse could win if this goes through. That's I mean, but it happens all the time. And I'm not shocked that it was it was overturned. And I mean, they can go to the court all they want, but nothing's going to change.

Is there a snitches get stitches policy and horse racing? Because you've got the two, the two jockies gentlemen's game joined together. Yeah. And then yeah, I don't know. Horses have teams. I here's how little I know about. We're racing just owns like all of them. You know, yeah. And then he goes and buys a new brand of like fancier transition lenses

to wear in the winter circle the next year. But it was it was one of those situations where all we had to go on was some lady sitting in a situation room. One of her computers wasn't even working. It looked like the room that Obama and Hillary were watching or something about and getting shot on. Yeah. And we were just like all on pins and needles. Here's how little I know about horse racing.

I kept calling the jockey the driver. And I think that's actually a much cooler name for like that driver did that on purpose. Yeah, I was like, oh, finally won a Kentucky Derby. But nope, there's no chance that I'll ever win a Kentucky Derby. So yeah, it was exciting to watch. I think it was I threw out the there was a lot of people who got the replay jokes off of I threw out the replay ruins everything. Then I had the combination of people saying they were mad about the replay,

which again, this happens all the time in horse racing. And then the people who are like, you're an idiot, this happens all the time in horse racing. It's like I was making a joke about people being upset about like J. Billis was fuming sitting in his house. Like how could they do this? Why do they go to the monitor? Why don't they pay the horses? Yeah, what the fuck is going on?

Money being waged on this event. The horses don't get anything. But yeah, it could have been a disaster. It could have been like I'm talking death from horses and John. I thought when you were saying that that it was almost a disaster, I thought you were saying that if they hadn't overturned the result. No, but I agree with you. Like that was almost a big pile up.

It could have been. It was just we were about half a second away from just like a hot springs of glue right forming on the track. And they would never have been able to run the Kentucky Derby the same way. Yes. And that's the thing with the Kentucky Derby is different than every other horse race, because there's 20 fucking horses. It's insane. But that's not how most horse races go.

Yeah. So when you have 20 horses and terrible conditions and one of them starts drifting, just be be happy that you can keep betting on horses once a year. Big thoughts and prayers go out to maximum security, though. His stud fee went down considerably, which I don't really understand because he very clearly won like he would he ran a good enough race to win the Kentucky Derby. So I think they're just saying that he's got the DNA of a cheater now.

Well, his sperm isn't worth as much. He can go. He can go win the the that's the other thing is country country. Biscuit is not going to win the next two races. Country Biscuit. We're just calling it. I don't even know what it is. Biscuit, the horse. Yeah. Country Club. I don't know.

I don't fucking know. Country Home. That's the name of it. It is kind of cool, though, that a 63 to one horse. I want to know how much money was wasted and ripped up tickets after the after the race was over. The other thing is the like imagine winning the Kentucky Derby is a 65 to one long shot and then having the moment just be like, you know, drawn out for 30 minutes.

And then you're like, oh, you won. But you didn't really win because you didn't have that moment where you crossed the finish line first and most people just change the channel like right away because they were like, fuck horse racing. I don't want to watch this anymore. Well, I'm a big believer in the fact that when you lose a bet, you have to stare at the TV for at least five minutes, just in disbelief. Like, I can't believe I lost that turn that time.

And this is the one scenario that I've ever been a part of that completely justified that dumbfounded stare at the television. Like, oh, maybe something will change. Should you do that on purpose? What? Justify? Oh, that's good. Hey, yeah, yes, I did. We should we should at least mention because there is because

President Trump put out the tweet and spelled Kentucky wrong, then deleted it and read and, you know, did a tweet again. We have to throw out the best political horse racing tweet of all time from last year. Remember Sheriff Clark said Donald Trump should invite justified to the White House lawn for winning the Triple Crown justifies a winner like Trump. Who care less about leftist identity politics? Good point. Good point.

Horses not care about your pronouns. I've never seen a horse being ridden in an anti-fair rally. Fucking amen. I that's when you know we've all lost our mind when the horses politicize horse racing. No, just horses. Just the actual horse actual. Yeah, the animals.

Country home does literally mean White House. No, no, no, country home country. But I'm saying country home means White House, country house, country house. Was it actually country house? That's a terrible name for a horse. I'll just say it. Country house elite. Yeah, it's not maybe that's what they nobody had a country house. They bought a horse by Lake House.

Those deals. Interesting. We probably bought both. Yeah, absolutely. You have to have a country house to keep your country horse at. Yes, absolutely. All right, so let's let's do some NBA talk. Hank, would you like to start with the Celtics? Sure. Where would you like to start?

Well, we were talking about it before the show. The Celtics are in a classic case of they are flipping the switch. And sometimes they forget to flip the switch, but then they will flip the switch. So has the flip been switched or is it off switch? It was switched after game one. But it's like they're trying to get the electricity back on. They're working on it. But I don't know. It's tough.

Giannis is Giannis looks like a fifth grader that like hit puberty like before everyone else on the playground and just dominating everyone. There's nothing like Celtics aren't playing their best, but it's also like he's so good that I don't really know who you can really blame. Like I'm saying, you can't. The Bucks are going to just walk to the finals this year. I'm very consistent on that. Travel to travel to the fight.

You're a gyro step to the furrow step. But it's kind of a travel, but we really can't call it because we don't know. Actually, you know what Giannis does? He takes this thing where it's not really a euro step. He like lands his plant foot and then he kicks his foot up in the air twice. So he like skips a step. Yeah, he hops from his right foot back to his right foot without ever touching his left foot.

It's insane how he he can basically just be, you know, 18 feet from the basket and then boom, he's got a land. I read a story about Giannis earlier today about how his Greek coach found him and how his how his coach is like taking responsibility for all the the fact that he's a good ball handler, good passer, that type of thing. And the story just boils down to like, I saw this giant kid playing on the playground

and he was just dominating everybody. And so I was like, I can make something of this child. The air up there. Yeah. Yeah. And and the best story with Giannis is that every team went to Scott. Him except the next. Yeah, that is you're right. That is. But also thoughts and prayers to James Dolan. He's getting sued by a lot of, I don't know if it's co-owners or the MSG people

because they're saying that he's not spending enough time working on the next because he's playing with his band too much. And they should just let him do his band stuff all the time. Because let him keep doing the kazoo. Don't let him meddle with like that should actually if you're a Nick's fan, you should the best thing that could happen is James Dolan being like, fuck, man, my band's on the road. Thirty three hundred nights this year.

If you're a Nick's fan, you should just try. You should buy tickets to every single show in every city and just have him go on like a worldwide tour. Yeah, sells out every place that he's at. Just keep him away from home as much as possible. The next kiss. Yeah, go on Amazon and just buy a shitload of kazoos and just send him to his office. Oh, he'll come. No, if you just have a warehouse full of kazoos, he'll show up.

He will show up. We should talk about the Warriors, Dubbs Nation, my Warriors. The Warriors versus the Warriors is an ongoing battle. Steph Curry. Stinks. Well, the question we have to ask is no longer who's the Batman on the team because we know it's Katie. Yeah, the question is, who is the Robin on the Warriors? And I think right now it's coming down to Dremond and

Klay Thompson, Clay. Iggy's got a little step in him. Iggy Iggy's. Yeah, that was a bad visual form. So that sucks so bad. How does it suck to be like you're an NBA player? You've made so much money. You want to finals MVP.

Slam Dunk Champion Slam Dunk Champion. And that one gift, that replay is going to be played 10 billion times. And people will be like, Oh, yeah, that guy. Oh, when he got viciously blocked at the rim and LeBron and LeBron. And but we also had a vindication for every dad out there who has been preaching that layup counts as two. Yeah, because Steph tried to dunk at the end of the game, got absolutely stuffed by the rim in a hilarious moment.

And I don't know what else to say besides the fact that Kevin Durant can't he can't do everything himself for my warriors. He put the team on his very narrow back. He's so fucking good. He's very, very good. It was an awesome game. Awesome game. And I think that I think the Rockets might win the next year.

Here's the thing. If I'm if I'm Iggy, I'm so excited that Steph missed that dunk at the end of the game. Yes, because now that's the big clown moment. And his is kind of like fading a little bit. A little bit. It's not as bad as it could have been. Yeah. When you when you have your your perennial all star former leader of the team getting rejected by the rim. That takes a little bit of the sting off of it.

What was that stuff that you showed me, Hank? Dragonfly Jones, our boy tweeted out that in twenty five out of ninety nine playoff games, Steph hasn't put up 20 basically one in four games. He's listen. Tough luck. Not even putting up 20. We nitpick stuff. I still love Steph Curry because watching him play and watching him shoot

and like get hot is awesome. But there is not one single superstar that I've ever seen in any sport that gets less shit for sucking than Steph Curry. He needs to go back to the old shoes, to the old nurse shoes that he had. Since his shoes got all like fly on him. Now he's like too cool for school. Yeah. Could you think of anyone, though? Like that that that's the real pro like it's not even Steph's fault.

Like it's it's nothing he is doing. It's it's old joke about, oh, Steph injured. That's just something that gets thrown out there by the media. But he gets such a pass every time. I guess paint manning a little bit. But he know he got when he before he won a Super Bowl, everyone was on him. So I guess because he has three titles. And I think it's also because everyone sees him as like the short fun guy

who can shoot from a million miles away and in warm ups. He does all those things. Right. And the kids love him. Steph is for the kids. So but it's weird because every other superstar, if they have a moment like that, it's like nonstop getting ripped to shreds. And Steph, I mean, I guess he got ripped a little bit, but not really. And Kevin Durant is stuck just trying to fucking drag this team

to another final dubs nation. It's almost like they don't want to. They've played so much in the playoffs in the last couple of years. They just want to take a summer off. They're like, Hey, you know what? Taking a June vacation might be nice for a change. He's going to he's going to drag this team. The other little thing that I love about the Rockets is whenever James Harden,

whenever Chris Paul decides that he's going to be the point guard, James Harden like pouts and stands so far away from the basket. That's not James Harden. That's Jimmy Harden. When he gets into that mode, he stands far away. And then and then once he becomes part of the offense again, he gets locked in. It's so funny. When he he's he really will like be like, I'm not playing unless I get to hold the

ball for 20 out of 24 seconds of the shot clock. Yeah, he was great though. Yeah, it was he was going back and forth was was amazing. Unreal. So glad it went to overtime because I had the Rockets. So that was nice. Yeah, it's a little take a cash. But yeah, that series is finally all the series in the NBA right now are unbelievable. Well, let me ask you this.

So Boogie might come back. Steve Kerr said that he's not ruling him out for the end of the playoffs. So Steph go to the bench. So that's what I'm saying. Steph Curry would be an impact six man. If listen, if he's the consummate teammate that that he presents himself as like wrong, be that spark off the bench. You're not wrong.

But like you bring in a shooter, you know, the the other series that is also oh, well, they're all really, really good. But the Raptors and the Sixers is essentially Kauai Leonard being Superman versus John Bede having the shit slash sneezes. Well, I I think Superman is too like animated of a descriptor for Kauai. He's I was going to say he's Clark Kent because Clark Kent was a milk toast guy. How do you pronounce that word? Milk toast?

He's a milk toast guy to you. But you know that if if he got into a fight, he could still whoop your ass in boxing, right? So I would say he's more like Clark Kent. And besides that, like, I don't. Well, if you can shut down Kauai, you have you can easily beat the Raptors. But you can't shut down Kauai at all. He has. So here's some numbers for you.

He has this is game game one through game four. Shooting field goal percentage, 70 percent, 54, 59, 65 percent. He has thirty nine points, 33, 35, 45. That's insane. He's just he and he is there's something about Kauai that when you watch him, it's just incredible seeing a guy who like shows no emotion and he goes about everything in such a mechanical way that it's like you can't stop. Even though you know what he's about to do, you can't stop him and he's not

doing with any flash or anything. He's just like, OK, here it is. I'm punching my fight. You know, he's punching into work like a fucking steel mill guy. Right. And work just happens to be draining threes and driving to the hole. Right. Even his hairstyle is boring. It's it's it's named after the most boring vegetable, the corn rose. Yes. He probably asked him for soybean rose.

And they're like, sorry, Kauai, that's not a thing yet. Most boring vegetable corn. Yeah. I would. That's a hot take. I know. Oh, I would totally disagree. Corn was is up there for the best. Corn is is very boring. No, it's not. You can do so much. Yeah, if you put if you put stuff on it, popcorn, I love popcorn. Yeah, but it's it's also got color side.

Yeah. And you and it passes right through. You can see it's the only vegetable. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, just double your value. Well, no, no, no, beat. So you bring up a good point about corn passing through you. That is Kauai Leonard. He's going to be the same person. He's going to have the same temperament,

no matter if he's stuck in a pile of shit or if he's on a dinner plate. Can I can I just admit something right now? I really wanted to beat you on this, but I can't think of any other vegetables. That's carrots, tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes are fruit, fruit. Are they? Yeah, they're fruit. I knew that you idiot. What are the I think Hank did, too? I think Hank's getting better at trolling us.

Vegetables is bad that I'm searching. Yeah, I just googled that. What is a vet? Is Romain is lettuce a vegetable? Lettuce is a vegetable. So they are. Oh, OK. I know what's a carrot. Yeah, I know what vegetables are. So we got a let's see some carrots.

Yeah, carrots are pretty boring. Again, corn, just I'm talking corn on a plate. Eggplants. Boring as fuck. What do you think about eggplants? Dude, eggplants. Take on eggplants. Well, it's an emoji. It's probably the best emoji. Mmm, yams.

Yams are good. Yams are very good. But aren't those tubers? Mmm, aren't yams just like sweet potatoes? Yeah, well, yeah. Very similar. Pumpkins. That's a squash. Tubers. Yeah, tubers. Potatoes. You're looking at some Fugazi list over there.

I'm looking at Wikipedia, dude. Lime of beans. Lime of beans have to be worse than corn. Give me a break. Give me lime of the worst tasting, but give me lime of the boring. You give me like cabbage. Cabbage is the worst.

I'll give you cabbage. I'll give you cabbage. I will send fruit. It's pretty bad. Cabbage is the worst vegetable. I'm happy we had that debate. But either way, Kawhi Leonard is boring, but he's excellent.

Incredible. I have a question about the raptors. Yes. This thought occurred to me yesterday. I was there. Jersey are trash. Yeah, right. Yes, their jerseys are awful. Hey, not the north ones I wore today. No, yes, those are trash.

No, the north ones are bad. They look like a pack of Winston cigarettes. Fucked. You go Slavia in 1997 team. It's a date. I will say I watched like two episodes of Game of Thrones right before I turned on the games while I was like hyped up, you know, North John Snow.

Let's go and then, you know, turn on the Raptors. They're just trying to cash in on Jersey. So that might have played into my head. But Hank, Hank, it looked like an Atlanta Hawks knock off like $15 jersey by TJ Maxx. And when your dad's like, you know what? He's he's not going to care about this team for a while. So I'm going to buy him a fucking shitty jersey.

Yeah, like when when you're no name on the back, you're eight years old and you're going to grow out of it. Yeah, unless you're me. So but my other question was we're going to have to do but not rush more best jerseys this summer. OK, if you put that on there, I will fight you. And by that time, I'll be really jacked because we're going to have a bench press.

I think we've already done that like twice, though. No, but we can do play the hit, play the hit. Delete that part so that nobody calls us out on it. The other question I had about the Raptors, though, if they win the NBA title, do they get the invite to the White House or do they get the invite to whatever the Canadian like? Centrude, huh?

The maple is gone, right? The maple tree ranch where they just pull syrup out. No, I know a log cabin. I think they just actually just live streamed everyone in that stupid plaza that all the Torontians stand and and watch them Harper. We're invited to Rob Ford's tomb. What are they going to stop doing that?

Like Toronto, I like Toronto a lot. And then there are a couple of times, beautiful city. Stop having half your city show up for a live stream and watching all their hearts break. It is so like we do that here as our job. And I don't want to do that. When we do the electric chair, it sucks. Yep.

You guys willingly stand in front of a bunch of cameras so everyone can laugh at you crying in your fucking, you know, syrup and Molson. Stop. Stop. Just go watch it at a bar like a normal human being. If they get the what's the name of the championship trophy for the NBA? It's the Larry O'Brien.

The Larry O'Brien trophy. If they get that, do you think the prime minister just like scratches out NBA championship and just writes Stanley Cup on it? Well, the good thing is we'll never know because they never will. We got another one. They will never, they will never, never know.

By the way, Joe Ambed, like what is wrong with him? He's sick. He's sick today. It's like the tired, wired meme, tired being out of shape and hurting your knee all the time, wired just having a really bad immune system and being sick all playoffs. He goes from the unquestioned future of the NBA to a scrub on like a nightly basis.

Mark Jackson said he was, could be the best big man of all time. And then the next game, he's got the sniffles and has low energy. What the fuck? Sounds like me. What the fuck? So the last series that we have to talk about

is our Nuggets who shout out Nuggets fans. We rep Rado hard. We unfortunately are in the new office and we don't have TV yet. Shout out all business Pete for being a bitch. So we'll recap from Magic Johnson's tweets. So here we go. Jamal Murray scored six straight free throws

in the closing seconds and had a game high 34 points to lead the Nuggets over the trailblazers. So there you go. Nuggets won. You left out the most important part, the exclamation point at the end. Oh, there's another one too. Nicola Jokic has really caught my eye with his two triple doubles in this series against Portland.

Wow. So Magic, who as of three weeks ago was part of an NBA organization, the president of basketball operations, has finally caught on to the guy who will most likely finish second or third in MVP vote. Yeah, that was a big red flag for me. Holy shit. He's like, who's this Jokic guy?

This Jokic guy seems pretty fucking good. What's up with that? You know what? If I was in charge of a team in the West, I would try to get my hands on this guy. We should trade for him. He must be like undrafted like rookie, huh? I don't know who will win the series with Toronto's victory

over Philadelphia to even it up, but I do know that Kawhi Leonard has been dominating the series and put on a show today scoring 39 points. Actually, you know what? Magic Johnson ends most of every single one with exclamation points, including his bio, which is the official Twitter account of Irvin Magic Johnson exclamation point.

So if you ever find yourself without TV and you want to know what happened in the NBA playoffs, go on to Old Magic's Twitter and you can figure it out pretty quickly. Yeah, it's a nice recap. Him play by play in the NBA is like Norm McDonald's play by play of golf tournaments. Yes.

By the way, that four overtime game on Friday night. So late. CJ McCollum, has he? Hey, he had what did you drop? Like what do you drop? No, he was close to. He was like 40 something. He's been awesome and shout out to Yokech,

who we just found out about 65 minutes. And then afterwards, people are like, how'd you do it? Like basically saying that you're fat, dude. Yeah, I love how fat he is. He's like, I used to be chubby. He looks kind of are. He looks like a blocking tight end. Yeah.

And he get this is the big, the big theory is that game three is always the game where the chippiness comes out and him fighting Cantor was awesome and then Cantor just trying to snitch to you think Cantor is a guy who's like has a hit out for his life would not be like a snitch, right? Because he's he's like always playing with nothing to lose. Right. I don't know.

It just seems I don't know. Like I don't know. Maybe that maybe that doesn't make sense. I think it feels like he should be the last guy to like go willingly go to the authorities. Like, dude, the authorities in Turkey want you dead. I know, I would say the other way around. If you have a snitch out or if you have a hit out on you,

you're probably only talking with cops all the time. Like, hey, give me another update. Right. But you don't want to draw more attention to you. So now he's going to kill him. No, I'm just saying like he went he trended. You know, you want to lay low where you are. I agree that you want to.

Hey, he's in Portland. Yeah. Oh my God, he's got a game tonight. I heard shit. There he is. I do like Enos and mostly because he's the only athlete that I can remember whose name rhymed with penis. Yes.

And that's just hit his comedy goal. Well, Curtis is a very fertile ground. Curtis Enos. That's right. Yeah. So there we go. We got two. Two of them.

Here we go. We got we got two big ones. All right. Should we get to our who's back of the week? Let's do it. Why don't you start big cat? Yeah, big cat. Why don't you go ahead?

OK. Actually, speaking of Curtis Enos, former Chicago Bear, great. Well, I'll go with the Bears kickers are back because Matt Nagy had a competition for the kicking job, the vacant kicking job to shout out Cody Parkie. Was that that thing they had in like the town square? No, it actually kind of was. They had eight kickers show up to minicamp.

And then Matt Nagy brought them all out to the 43 yard line and said, hey, this is where Cody Parkie fucked up. You all have to kick from here and six out of eight of them missed. That's not a great sign, but there are great culture fits, you could say. So now we're down to two. Elliott Frye and Chris Blewett.

Blewett. Elliott Frye is definitely a made up name. Chris Blewett, we know. Definitely not a made up name. Yep. And that one is like, if it becomes the kicker, everyone should be fired. The problem with getting Blewett is if you're the Bears

and you're trying to write all of your kicking woes, you just it would look a lot worse if you misfired on a guy named Blewett. Exactly. Everyone should be fired. I would much rather have a kicker that is slightly worse than Blewett, then have Blewett and have him miss an important field goal.

Exactly. Because when he misses a field goal, it will instantly become the biggest joke on Twitter. And it's like my old saying, like if you're it doesn't matter. I mean, the long scheme of things, if you're a sports fan, it doesn't really matter if your team wins or loses. It just matters that you don't get embarrassed. Some fucking Nile is just don't get embarrassed because they

don't be the butt of everyone's joke. Just stay. Look, not everyone can win championships. Let the fucking overachievers win the championships. Let everyone else just stay in the middle. Stay calm. Don't get made fun of. Yeah.

Win a wild guard game once every three years. Exactly. Keep the fans happy and don't have a guy named Blewett go double-doink on you from 43 yards. I agree with that. So they have two kickers left now. You said six are gone. I think six have been cut.

I could see Nagy trying to do this football guy thing where they overcorrect in the opposite direction. Now he's going to become like the world's biggest genius with the kicking game. By the way, shout out this ambulance that we're getting on the record. Great that we have a studio next to the fucking street. On the window.

Did we think about that before? No, we didn't. That's not. We just wanted sunlight for our plants. This is a joke. Yeah. What are we doing? I don't know.

It adds a little color to it. It's not a busy area. That's the square garden. No. No. The Mecca right down the street. This ambulance is literally going to just drive into the studio right now.

I think that the ambulance. This is a joke. I think the ambulance is pulling up here because they heard Big Cat screaming, fuck, fuck, fuck. Oh my god. Don't spoil those. During Game of Thrones. I know.

I'm not going to spoil it. I'm not going to spoil it, but they heard your reaction. OK, sorry. And they're like either the world's biggest bitches inside or somebody's getting stabbed to death. Yes. Well. Somebody's getting stabbed.

OK. OK. What were you saying? I can't remember. I don't even remember what I was saying. Why do we have a studio next to Windows? I was saying, I was saying, what is going on? I was saying what Nagy's going to do

is he's going to become like the biggest special team statistic guy and get multiple kickers depending on how long the field goal is. Right. So he's like, this is our 40-yard plus specialist. And this is our extra point specialist. Or just have. This is our onside kick specialist.

Yeah. I'm going to know everything there is to know about the kicking game. How about here's here? You want to be a genius? How about you just have three cone kick them? Because I guarantee you can. He's everything else.

He did a fucking backflip. If you can do a backflip, you can kick a field goal. So have that. Save a roster spot. Save the embarrassment. Be the innovator whiz kid that you are and have to re-cone be your kicker. Or just don't kick.

Or just don't kick. Be that high school coach in wherever Georgia. Never punts. Well, he never punts. I think he's still got to kick sometimes. No, I think he goes for it on every fourth down. He goes for it on every fourth down and every two point conversion.

Trubisky, he does a pooch punt, right? He could kick. Shout out Michael Vick. He could kick, too. He could kick, absolutely. Just do that. More teams should do that. Hank, you want to go?

But that was a delayed onset bubble reaction right there. I love those. But he's just laughing about the fact that we literally just had this new insanely nice office. And we put our fucking podcast studio next to a window across the street from Madison Square Garden. I got a few of his becs.

Jesus Christ. My first one, shout out to Mac, the Shaq, Titus, is MacaSmart. Wicked, WickedSmart. He has been upgraded to questionable for game four, which they didn't think he was going to come back to the end of the series. But he got approved for contact in practice.

And he said he accidentally took a charge during practice. How much does that suck for everyone else on the Celtics when Marcus Smart gets approved for contact? You're like, fuck, practices are going to be awful. Practices are not fun anymore. He's like the ultimate guy that you hate, but you love money. Right, right.

Either who's back is SNL and Adam Sandler. Yes. So SNL basically just did what Hollywood does, just recreates movies. They had him as the host. He did Opera Man. He did a tribute to Chris Farley. He was very heartwarming and touching.

Opera Man. He did Opera Man, too. Yeah. Yeah. Hank doesn't remember Opera Man. I said he did Opera Man. Oh, OK. He did Opera Man.

I didn't hear that part. Oh. The ambulance. Are you serious? The ambulance said Opera Man. He said Opera Man. OK. I thought he said Aquaman.

Oh, no. Smart move by SNL. No, that's Vinny Chase. Play the hits. Yeah, it was Smart. The Chris Farley thing was touching. Normally, I would say, oh, that's kind of lame to play all the hits, but he hadn't been back.

No. Yeah, which is crazy. It was good. No, it was good. He never hosted. Never hosted. I want to say Adam Sandler is my, what, my grail? He's my grail king.

Is that what you said? You want to look like him? Yeah, like with the oversized baggy T-shirt, the Moomoo's that he wears, the denim shirts that go down to his knees. Boner dogs that he makes. He doesn't give a fuck about anything. That's the life right there.

It's true. It's true. And he also, the best part about the Chris Farley tribute is he admitted that he wished Chris Farley was still alive so he could be in grownups three. Mm-hmm. What do you think Kevin James is when he, like, think they've had that conversation like, thanks.

Oh, yeah. I kind of love Chris Farley because. He's like, he's like. Maybe like millions of dollars. How many times do you think Adam Sandler has accidentally called Kevin James Chris? A lot. That sucks.

Yeah. He's just like, ah, sorry, man. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like one of those awkward. We're probably like they're doing takes. Like, could you do this a little funnier, like? Hey, Kevin, could you like throw your body around

a little bit more? Take your shirt off. Could you start sweating? Let's get the hose out here. Wet Kevin down before this day. I want you to look like you're stepping out of a sauna in hell. Yeah. He really, he really probably, Kevin James,

more than a few times has been like in a dark bar by himself being like, yeah, this is pretty much all because Chris Farley died. You think Adam just like makes him dress up too and some of Chris's old clothes. Yeah. They put on this Wisconsin shirt. Yeah.

Put on the lunch lady here for me. But yeah, it was very cool. And I did like the song to the tribute to Chris Farley. It was awesome. Grew up watching those guys. So that was that was good to see. You done? Does it?

Who's back? OK, my who's back of the week is rally animals. So I acknowledged my big mistake in overlooking the Carolina Hurricanes was not acknowledging Hamilton the rally pig. And Hamilton is a big boy. She chonked his hell just looking good. She or he?

It's he. But like it sounds cool or say she chonked. And so the Hurricanes are playing good hockey. Don Cherry is pissed off. And it's all because they have this awesome fucking rally pig. The pig is so cool. And it's so fucking funny when they put the pig in his little like it's a wagon.

His wagon. He's got a wagon. And they put him right where the guys come out to the ice. And the pig has no clue where he is. And they're just like it's just a pig. They're just minding its own business while everyone gets pumped up. I actually had an embraced debate for you PFT,

but I'll do it right now. OK. Which is better? Losing to the team that will probably win the Stanley Cup championship, the Cup. We're going that far. Yeah. With the Hurricanes.

With the Hurricanes. Well, the Hamilton and the Pig. OK. OK. Or losing to a team and then realizing that the next team that you would have played, you would have rolled right over and probably went back to the Cup final in one another one. Well, I think maybe an option three would be losing

because two of your best Russian players don't show up in the playoffs. And then they go play. As a Russian national team and absolutely dominate the rest of the world the next week. That would be hypothetically, that would be tough. Yes. It would be tough for me to deal with mentally.

Ovi gets paid probably like $7 million per goal. I'm not. When he plays in the KHL. Yes. Well, I'm not talking about Ovi. I was talking about Birkovski. Oh. Did Ovi play too?

Because Netsov. I think he did. Ovi dominated in the playoffs. So I'm not mad at him, but Kuzi did not show up. But what about the time when he had the golf clubs above his head like I said? But that's because of the rally pig Hamilton. OK, yeah.

But so you would have definitely swept the Islanders and probably gone back. Well, we get into this a little bit with, well, no, we got into it with Whitney on Friday. I think a lot has to do with the fact that we toughened the Hurricanes up for round two. And you were like warm waters for them. The Gulf of Mexico.

The fucking Islanders had to play against the shitty Pittsburgh penguins, which was a cakewalk. It's like playing against a mites team. And so now they go in and they're like, oh, shit, we have to play an actually good team. Hey, look, New York Islanders might have been Stanley Cup champions, Brooklyn Islanders. They stink.

Not not the same magic in the barn. My other who's back of the week is Billy McFarland. Oh, yes. Oh, he of Firefest fame. He's writing a book in jail. OK. And it's called Prometheus, not Prometheus. Prometheus.

Well, that's kind of his thing, right? Spelling shit. Yep. Indirectly. He's definitely back. Prometheus, God of Fire, F-Y-R-E, which is documenting all the different times he did not commit fraud on a wide scale.

And also, Major, who's back for him, because he has a new buddy in the prison that he's in. So we know that he's in prison with the situation. Yep. It's been established. Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, is getting sent to that prison as well. So the three of them, they got a little triumvirate going on

there where they could cook up with. Is Screlly there? Screlly should be there. Yeah. Screlly's with C Block and J-Bow. D-Bow, yeah. All the internet memes in one prison. Meme prison would be the worst place ever.

They should actually just like. Hell is other memes. Do meme prison, put it on VH1, all the money, goes to all the people that were defrauded. I like that. I mean, give the people what they want. Big brother in prison? Yeah, give the people what they want.

How come we, I'm surprised the United States hasn't reached the point where we live broadcast prisons to people? Yeah, meme prison. Meme prison. I think we just hit another billion dollar idea. I'm in. Fuck.

OK, let's get to our interview with Richard Jefferson. By the way, J-Rule definitely has to do the forward for that book. He will. Well, it's just going to be that toast. Here's to partying like rock stars. Fucking like porn stars. I forgot what the second one was.

It's fucking like party like rock stars. Fucking like porn stars. And then come and honor. Wait, no, that's a different one. And then living like rock stars. Partying like movie stars. Living like movie stars. Partying like rock stars.

Fucking like porn stars. Fucking like porn stars. Damn, that is so cool, man. Fuck. Someday I hope I'm that cool. All right, let's do Richard Jefferson. Before we get to Richard Jefferson, quick word from our sponsors, guys.

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and get a great cardio workout at home. Go to onepeloton.com. You got to spell out one, onepeloton.com and use promo code PMT to get started today. Okay, here he is. Zero time NBA All-Star, Richard Jefferson. Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest. Oh, recurring.

Former NBA, how many All-Star games you go to? Zero. Okay, former non-NBA All-Star, Richard Jefferson. That sucks, man. I'm sorry. That's all right. It's a lady that on purpose. Well, when you get in the second interview,

it's like, I don't have to do the like, we don't have to do the background story. You're now a recurring guest. So you're like welcome here. We don't have to be like, hey, remember that time in Arizona? We can just be like, remember that time you didn't make any All-Star games.

Yeah, that's so much easier because it's like honestly, I think more importantly and I think the thing I'm most proud of is my bronze medal, right? So I'd rather discuss that than my never making an All-Star game. So what happened in those Olympics? Argentina?

Yeah, Argentina happened. They were tough that year. That's Manu, right? Yeah, that was Manu. It was tough, right? You know, it just, I felt like it was just, people wanted us to be ambassadors for the game and I felt like what better way to be ambassadors

than to let another country win. That's true. Get a rivalry going. You also helped, I remember that Olympics and everyone after was like, this is the most embarrassing thing ever. Make sure none of these guys are on this team again. Let's reconfigure USA basketball.

Yeah, that actually started the process of US, yeah, and I was like, yo, you're welcome. I told Kyrie that, you know, I was like, Kyrie, you're welcome, right? They started the US select team after us. Coach K got involved. Coach K got involved. They're like, okay, enough of these ripped wrath, right?

And so, you know, I was glad, you know, even if we were on the suicide mission, right? Even if you're on the suicide mission to go win the war, I'm okay with that. Yeah, you've won basically all the gold medals since that point. You kind of have a pardon. Yeah, yeah, you're welcome.

I should get an honorary gold medal. Mellow should definitely give you a kick back. Do they give those honorary gold medals? We can make one. Mellow will find a way to get one in a couple years. He'll have enough. He'll have enough medals. You can buy one in like Goodwill

that Mellow's just thrown out when he's like moving houses. You brought up Kyrie, I kind of want to start there. So Kyrie, last night, I'm assuming you watched the Celtics Bucks game last night, he had an abysmal night shooting, but he didn't stop shooting. And that's kind of Kyrie, that's his M.O. Like he's going to keep going,

because he's got confidence in himself. When you were playing with a guy that might be that talented, maybe even it was Kyrie, and they run into a tough night from the floor, at what point do you start getting frustrated as a teammate being like, hey, spread the ball around or do you have that faith in him as well? You have to have that faith in your guy and your hero, right?

Like every team has a guy that's like, all right, it's your turn. Go get it. But if you look at the rest of the game, who else did anything? Jason Tatum wasn't doing anything. Jaylen Brown, what was he doing? What was Gordon Hayward doing?

So it was more of like, when you lose by 20, it wasn't just because Kyrie struggled. I think the rest of that team is talented enough that they would have figured it out. If Jason Tatum had 26 points, I don't think Kyrie was going to just move him over so he could go three for 22, that wasn't going to happen. Do you still talk to Kyrie at all?

Nah, we haven't really spoken. Okay, so maybe this actually helps your answer because you haven't spoken with him. What did you take from his year? It's been up and down in terms of being the leader. And that was the whole, I want to leave Cleveland, I don't want to be in Lebron's shadow. Then I think he quickly found out

that it's probably harder than anyone realizes to be the alpha on a team, a team that has championship expectations. Were you surprised at all that Kyrie had trouble with that? Like was he, when you were around him, was he tough maybe day to day to read his mood or whatever? No, let's say this. I think some of the up and downs

weren't necessarily all his fault. I think bringing back Gordon Hayward and him to a team that were one game away from going to the NBA finals, I think for the young players to make that adjustment to like downgrade their game, so that they could actually get growth from Gordon and to get Kyrie back, I think that was difficult.

And I think Kyrie did a fairly good job, but it's a new place for him. Understand Kyrie still with 26 years old. Yeah, it's crazy. Right, it's like too, but we've been watching him, he hit one of the biggest shots in sports history and NBA history, two years ago, and you're like, dude, the guy,

he's not even in his prime yet. A basketball player's prime is like 28 to 32. So for him, the prime is not just physical, it's also emotional, it's also mentally. So he will continue to get better. And I think that's when you become a great leader. When you were playing as the playoffs go on, it's exhausting, it's almost like another,

what, quarter of a season sometimes to add on there at the end. Was there ever a small part of you that was just like, you know, it wouldn't be the worst thing if we lost because I'm tired? I don't like to go home. No, no, there are moments where you're like, yeah, this is, do we really want to,

no, but you always want to do that because the postseason is the most fun. People ask me, do you miss basketball? 17 years, do you miss basketball? Hell no, I don't miss basketball. I do miss the postseason. Oh, so ball isn't life for you? What?

It was at one point. It's the other stuff, I bet. Like, you know, waking up early, going to practice, doing all the running and shit. Yeah, when you're playing a Tuesday game in Milwaukee and then a game, a back-to-back game in Sacramento and then you're flying to Utah. It's just like, I don't miss that.

When you're on a plane during New Year's, I've been on a plane when the pilot was like, ah, congratulations, happy New Year's everyone. And you're just like, awesome. This is a lot of fun guys. Yeah, good playoffs you miss. The playoffs is the best thing to me. It is the most fun.

I would watch the most basketball during the postseason as a player. So it just, that's the best part of the game. That's what everybody wants to play. So in the postseason, you're never in a rush for it to be over. So, we're gonna probably run this on Monday. So there'll be some basketball that happens in between.

Game three of the Rockets Warriors. But, you did say, I saw this maybe it was two days ago or yesterday. You said Kevin Aran is the most unguardable human that's ever been created. And you played with LeBron James. And you played against Kobe. Played against Shaq.

Played against MJ for a minute. Well, again, I see where you're going with this. I'm just wondering, no, I want you to expound on it. I kind of agree with you in a weird way. And this is what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's better than Jordan. I'm not saying he's better than Shaq or Kobe or Bron. I'm not saying any of that.

What I'm saying is that when you look at all these guys, and I think there's been other guys get there, he does things at such an efficient level. And at such a high rate, he's won four scoring titles. Like, how many scoring titles would he have if he stayed in OKC, right? He would probably be up there when we're talking about six, seven scoring titles.

Like, James Harden would probably beat him one out of two of the years. We were talking about a guy that would have six or seven scoring titles in his career because he's that good. But he's a seven foot two guard. He shoots 90% from the free throw line. He's shooting 50% from three right now

and 50% from the field and averaging 40 points of game over his last five. Only thing I'm saying is like, look, Shaq couldn't shoot free throws, right? MJ wasn't seven feet. MJ wasn't seven feet. LeBron couldn't shoot free throws. No, don't get me wrong.

I'm taking MJ in a game, right? I'm just saying if you had to create a basketball player, I think the two guys that you would create are probably Bron and KD for very different reasons. Yeah. Right? So like that, that's my thing. It's a good point and it's a good debate to have

because I do agree with you. Like in terms of when you take it out of not greatest, just like man to man and actually Yannis will probably, if Yannis can get a three point shot, he'll be up there. Yeah. And I don't know if Yannis will ever be able to get it because KD shoots a lot of things, right? There's a different, not all three point shots

are created equal. He could shoot 40% in a season, right? But shoot three a game, right? Four a game. Like KD might put up 10 threes in a night and look, think about it, we all know how great Steph is. But how good are you when you show up to a team with a two time MVP and you immediately turn him

into Pippin and he's in the prime of his career. Wait, so have you changed, cause you're critical of Kevin Durant when he went to the Warriors and you said, he kind of stole a ring from you. And as a podcast, we have literally never, PFT you can fact check me, we've never said a bad word about Kevin Durant ever.

Yeah, we love him. No, I didn't, the best way to say my issues were more of in a playful manner, right? Of this league, hashtag this league. Yeah, people weren't, he didn't think it was as funny as I did. Really, Kevin? Kevin, yeah.

It's surprising. He's got a good sense of humor. No, but my whole issue was never with like, I understood why he went there. Same reason why I went to go to Cleveland. And I was like, yeah, I want to play for a championship. I want to play good basketball. I want to be on the highest level.

And he felt like that was the best thing. I have no issue with that. But the only issue that was more of like, hey dude, you understand you're going to get some heat. Like he criticized Bron. He criticized Bron when Bron went to Miami. And then even then, when Bron became the villain in Miami and everyone's eyes,

he did the same thing after criticizing him. And then he became the villain and then he acted like he was surprised that he was the villain. Right, I agree with that. Where can he go, again, as a podcast that's literally never said anything bad about Kevin Durant, where can he go to satisfy the haters like you? Oh, wow.

See, we said a lot of shit about Kevin Durant. Yeah, I believe you. My thing is like, he can go anywhere he wants. I'm a firm believer and do whatever makes you happy, your family happy, but understand like as the great player on the Mount Rushmore of our generation, as he is, that people are going to have opinions.

And those opinions are going to be what drives the league. Those opinions are going to be what pays the NBA players paychecks. If the NBA stops talking about you or if the media stops talking to you, that's bad for your shoe sales. That's bad for your jersey sales. That's bad for your overall brand.

Yeah, bad for everybody. I'll tell you what would totally fix everything with KD. If the Sonics would back to Seattle, he joined the Sonics again. Oh, he became a legend. And then took him to a title. Legend. Even if he didn't take him to a title,

just like made them competitive. One of my things that I firmly believe is just have an opinion about me. Hate me or love me, but just tell me your opinion. Because the minute you stopped caring about me and you don't even want to address me, that's when you have an issue. I love how much I hate KD.

Oh, yeah. I'll say good guy, bad tattoos. Me? Yes. 100%. There's my opinion. I have a hand tattoo. Are you happier in media now

so people can slowly forget your RJ tattoo? No, no, no, no, no. Because I still talk about my RJ tattoo, right? I still talk about I'm proud of it. It was one. No, I'm probably proud of the wrong word. No, I'm proud of the person I was at the time when I got it.

That's a great answer. You've accepted it. It's not going anywhere. You might as well embrace it. Yeah, I was 17 years old when I got it and I was on my visit to Arizona. To talk about just put your balls on your table right there, your parents don't know that you're going to a college

and you're just like, my mom saw it like a week later and was like, what is that? I was like, that's a tattoo. And she was like. I'm cool about mom. She was like, wait, what? And at that point in time, obviously it was done. And too, I was going to college,

which is what you say to me. I'm going to have you put your GM hat on real quick. By the way, do you have any interest whatsoever in getting into the game, like working for a team at some point? I have interest in money. So that's, you know, whenever the opportunity presents. We'll help you.

Okay, thank you. Let's put your Magic Johnson hat on. Okay. Oh, wow. Yeah. How do you fix, fix the Lakers in three moves or less? I would change everyone that's in my front office. And then I would go and steal someone from the Spurs.

Trajan Langdon is a guy that's up for, that's up for the Minnesota job. He was a part of the Cleveland thing. He was a part of bringing the Nets around. I think he's up there. I look at, I think there's a needs a lot more checks and balances. I think even Jeannie Buss needs somebody

that can tell her no or can go in there and win an argument. Not, and it doesn't have to be someone that she's friends with for 20 years or someone that she knows. And that's issue for people. That's very difficult. I think Jeannie Buss is a great owner

from the standpoint of she cares about their team. She cares about her family legacy. So all that stuff's great, but she still needs somebody to be like, no, this is wrong and magic. Anybody that needs to know how the Lakers have been run in the last couple of years, look at how Magic Johnson left. That should let you know how it was being run.

And the backstory that he was possibly BCC'd accidentally on some emails, trashing him. So it's like, the whole thing is just a circus. It's a circus. And so you bring in somebody that's just, hey, no, this is not what we're about, right? Look, David Griffin, who just got the New Orleans Pelican job.

I think he is a person that knows how to run a team. You got to get someone with experience, right? Jeannie Buss, right? Even though she's been a part of the team, like she's the figurehead now. Then you had Magic Johnson, no experience in that job. Rob Polinka, no experience in that job. No assistant, no assistant GM.

So you just look at it and there was like, even though there were great names and I think very good basketball minds and people that care, there was no one with any experience in the actual job that they were doing. Yeah, I mean, ultimately it felt like Get LeBron and everything else figured itself out. And I'll give, look, the one thing

that I will give Magic Johnson credit for and people might think this is amazing, the only thing that you can do in anything is leave it in a better place than you found it. And I truly believe, 100% think that he left the Lakers in a better place than he found it. If you help recruit LeBron. See, I don't even think he did that.

I think LeBron already picked it. Agreed, but at the end of the day, when he showed up, when he left. Doesn't matter all the stuff in the team. I just think it's overstated that Magic recruited LeBron. LeBron does what LeBron wants. And I was number one in saying that exact same point.

I don't think that Magic Johnson had any influence on whether or not LeBron was going there. That being said, at the end of the day, Magic can always put that on his resume. I was the president that helped bring LeBron James in. Right, he didn't fuck it up. He didn't fuck it up. And you know what, that's an important thing.

That is true. There's a lot of people, James Nolan would fuck it up. If you didn't hit him. That's a low bar. That's a low bar to set. It's a great bar to have, huh? It's a great bar to have, though. Don't fuck it up.

Look at the Giants. Look at the Giants in their six pick, right? Absolutely. You get handed aces. You play the aces. You play the aces. So speaking of the Lakers and LeBron, your former teammate Channing Fry did an interview

where he said the number one thing about LeBron is his bad breath. Oh my God. So Dave is going to be so upset. He was like, so you said, right when we're doing the slice, we did a little pizza thing, he's like, so you said, you know, I hate LeBron. You said that he, and I was like, oh, that was Channing Fry.

That wasn't me. He was devastated. He was so bummed out. They're probably going to cut it out. They're probably going to edit it out. Which would be great, because we're not going to edit this out. We're not going to edit this out. So, but was Channing Fry right?

You know what, this is what I'll say. Like, man, everybody's had a bad day. Yeah, interesting. Everyone's had a bad day. I can honestly say that's not been my experience. Channing's a bit of a close talker, right? So I can see that. But don't shame Channing because he was the one

who got like bad breath. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's okay. I'm okay with victim shaming and fat shaming and these type of spaces. But I'm just saying Channing Fry, if that's what is the experience was, I'm not going to shortchange his experience.

Okay, is LeBron an alcoholic? No. Drinks a lot of wine. Drinks a lot of wine. No, there's all, we're all alcoholics. My wife thinks we're all alcoholics. If you go by what the doctor says, yeah. Yeah, when they say like,

do you have more than one or two drinks a week? It's like, what the fuck? Yeah, have you ever had more than one? It's like, do I live? Am I alive? Is that what you're asking me? Yeah, it's pretty much. It's like, do you take more than one or two breaths a day?

Yeah. Have you ever had three beers in an evening? Yeah. Well, we got a problem. Yeah, we got a problem. So do you think that it's a problem for LeBron? Not necessarily the wine, but him being out in LA,

having all the different productions that he's got going on right now, do you think that there is an element of lost focus? Nobody wants to be in space, Chan? No. And this is why. We'll go back to his injury, right? When he got injured, on Christmas day.

Oh, that's bullshit. No, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. They were third best in the West. It was like, they were all one game apart. That's fine. I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying that everything was fine and then their team had a slew of injuries.

Then the free agency thing, not free agency, but the trading deadline. The trade, LeBron tried to trade the team. Well, you know, there were, you know, people associated with that. I'm with you. Yeah. But I'm just saying like,

no one was really talking about distractions then. It was post then. No, that's okay. So that's my thing. It's like, when they were good and before a 17 game injury happened to him, they were good and no one was talking about distractions. No one was talking about distractions and wine

the previous 10 years where this guy was drinking wine. You're right, you're right. When you win like, you know, all those distractions weren't, aren't, they were actually character building. Exactly. Going off LeBron for a second, you are doing a ton of media now.

You're great at, you work for the Nets. You work for, you know, you do FS1 stuff. Get up. At what point in your career are you going to transition into a back in my day guy? I'm really going to try and uphold it. I'm going to try and avoid it. I've been, I've been trying my best.

You're not, you're not going to be able to. I know you're not. You're not going to. I would say I'm very, very fortunate being current right now. I think you should lean into it. No, I don't, because it almost, it almost sounds asinine because it was like,

if I say back in my day, I literally stopped playing eight months. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's going to happen for all of us. It is, it is. So are you like, when are you ready for like, when that period's going to start?

Yes. Yes. You got to be ready for when your period starts. When they bring out the four point shot and you're like back in my day, they didn't have a four point shot. That would be the dumbest idea. That'd be the dumbest idea.

But no, I think really and truly it's just whatever you feel like it's time because not only do you, when you get older, you bring the people that watched you play and watched you get interviewed for 15 years. So when you're saying something about like back in my day, you're also talking about all the people for like a 20 year span

that remember the game a certain way. So yeah, you might not be talking to the young kids that are doing it, but you're talking it to the familiar people that understand how you're trying to express the game. Right. Okay, one last question for me. So as we mentioned before,

it's going to be Rockets against the Warriors on Saturday night. We're going to air this on Monday. So give me your guarantee who's winning game three. I'm going to say, I'm going to say Houston is going to win one game. And if Houston wins one game, if the Houston wins one game,

the only game they will be able to win was game three. If they don't win game three, obviously they're going to get swept in my opinion. But if they have one chance to win one game, if not get swept, this will be their game. I thought we'd be- Guaranteed game three, Houston Rockets. You're such a dick.

All right, last question for me. That series actually was also the Celtics Bucks series. There's a lot of talk about the refs. So can you remember a time or how did a team deal with, you get to the arena, you know the ref assignment, you know this guy fucking hates your guts? No, see, look, this is what real basketball people say and they can't say-

Oh, this is good. We're going to cut this part and then we're going to say- This is what they can't say when they're doing games. There are certain referees that you want to see going into an arena, right? Now they will never say this like, and we would talk about this privately, but like, look, if I'm going into a Rogan,

now the Houston Rockets don't like Scott Foster, but if I was, let's say I'm in my sixth year, we're going into Boston on the road, I want to see Scott Foster. I want to see Steve Javi, who does all the TV stuff now. I want to see Joey Crawford. Like those are the guys, those like kind of dickheads, those assholes, those guys,

those guys that are kind of just like, leave me alone, I have to do my job. Those are the guys that I want. So I would take Scott Foster- Don't get pushed around. They don't get put, and if anything, if the home team, or the home crowd starts acting like jerks, they will actually go the other way.

So like the best way, and I don't mean it like, they'll start cheating, I mean it in a sense that like, you want to leave these men alone and allow them to do their job. Right, I remember AI saw Steve, Steve Javi, I'm doing the game, and so the rookie, I forgot who it was, maybe it was Sam Dallenberg, was yelling at Steve Javi.

And AI looked at him, he was like, boy, do you know who you're talking to? And Steve Javi starts laughing, he's like, man, he'll throw you out of here and your family. Right, and so like there are referees that you want to see in road games, there's referees that you want to see in a game seven, though like Monty McCutcheon's is one of them,

there's a bunch of refs that you want to see in those moments. So I understand that there's beefs in this sideways and all that stuff, but at the end of the day, and a lot of guys won't say that, there's referees that they want to see. Do you think the Rockets have gone too far where they're too, like I always think,

once you spend this much energy complaining about the refs, you've completely lost what you're going for here. Yeah, I think they did too. I think, and the funny thing too is like, I love Draymond, I love Steve Kerr, Arizona guy, but did you see their interviews post game? They were like, I thought the referees did a great job. And Draymond was like, look, I love this game.

And it's just sad to me that people want to bring referees in too. It was like, wait, wait, does anybody have clips from six months ago? We're like, oh, we got to fix these referees in the referee. And it was like, wait a second, now that the kind of things are going your way and things are on your side,

had that been Steph and had that been Clay and you would have lost the game, they would have been. The politicking. The politicking, right? They would have been going nuts. So that's also one of the beautiful things about basketball is you can literally watch in real time

someone completely bullshit. It's kind of funny. I like that. Okay, Richard Jefferson, recurring guest. Thank you very much. We appreciate you coming on every time. Also, Jared Dudley is dodging us. Can you hit him up?

Why? Oh, what? He's dodging us. We called him out. Really? He said he would do it in the interview and then he decided not to. And then he said that he never agreed to it,

but we got the receipts. And then we told. You got the receipts, you guys. And then he said he will do it. You guys have never paid me to be out here. He said he will do it. And then we also took a hard line stance where we had Jimmy Butler and Ben Simmons side

in that whole beef. You guys are just so charming when you guys disagree with someone. You got a big side. We're also very biased. So if you say you're biased, we're like, we literally said, yeah, Jimmy Butler and Ben Simmons were on the right

because Jared Dudley didn't do an interview with us. It's that simple. That's fair. So you want me to hit up Jared and be like, yeah. Look, I think you guys. I had fun. Just left the part of my take, guys. Man, they're fun.

Yeah, but then I would be lying. Then I would be lying. And that's the issue here. My credibility is at stake. Now I'm in Argentina stand. Oh, now I love Argentina basketball. You look like you're Argentinian. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. I just fall in love with my country. We're in Bahrain and know you had a bronze. Yeah, there we go. I bronze. You also know that team. Steph Marbury?

Yeah. LeBron James was on that team. Carmela Anthony. Oh, LeBron James got a bronze. We should put that on his bronze. LeBron's got a bronze. LeBron's got a bronze. He was 19 at the time.

So. Doesn't matter. Don't try to change. At all of us. I was like 23. Yeah, but we're already going to run with this. Oh, okay. That's fine.

The horse is out of the barn. Yeah, definitely. It was all bronze ball. I'd say that. Thanks, guys. That interview with Richard Jefferson was brought to you by 23andMe. This Mother's Day, for a limited time,

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Is it competition yet? No, it's definitely a competition. It's definitely a competition, though, and the winner of the competition will be who between Daniel Jones and Eli Manning ends up showing the least amount of swag by training camp. So what happened to start the no swag off? So, Daniel Jones got drafted.

Daniel Jones got drafted. That's what Beganna and his coach, Cutcliffe, said. Daniel Jones was born. Yeah, he was born without any swag. If he was born or he just emerged from tapioca ooze that was just the least. Somewhere in Mississippi. Yeah, just the least amount of swag possible at birth.

And Cutcliffe said, real swag is no swag. That's a model for him. So they asked Eli what he thought about drafting Daniel Jones, his potential replacement, and he said he really had no response to it. So Eli Manning is coming over the top with even less swag than Daniel Jones. It's basically, it's a bachelor style competition

for Dave Gettleman's heart. To see who can be the most milk toast quarterback. There we go. Eli Manning reach for comment. Yeah, I should have put a Southern twang on it. Hold on. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Dad, the reporters asked me questions again.

Hold on, son, I got this. I got this. My boy's going to be just fine. Oh, man, the swag. The swagless giants. God damn it. Poor Saquon. I can't wait.

We're about to get the Saquon Barkley deserves better stories. It's coming. Oh, it's already. We had a little last year, but it's going to go like. Everyone was like, oh, well, he's just a rookie. Who knows? Now it's going to get. So there's Daniel Jones.

I can't wait till Saquon retires like you're eight. Because he's like, fuck this shit. I'm Barry Sanders in this. Dave Gettleman's continued incompetence is actually very, very bad for my Washington R words. Because right now, you ever hear that old saying where if you're running away from a tiger against somebody, you don't have to outrun the tiger.

You just have to outrun the guy next to you. And in this case, Dan Snyder is like running laps around Dave Gettleman the last year and a half. Just wait three years. Yeah. That's all Dave Governments said. Give him three years. And you'll see how fucking awesome this is.

He could sit on the bench for three years and then come in in his fourth year when he's absolutely at his most worthless for us. And Eli Manning is still a corpse of himself. Yeah, he's going to do the Aaron Rodgers. He'll just be Aaron Rodgers by sitting him for three years. That's how it works. That's all it takes.

That's all it takes. You could either do it that way or you could go the Tom Brady model and just draft a quarterback in the sixth round. Who's yeah. And then have him be independent, wealthy, through his wife so he doesn't need huge contracts. And then keep winning Super Bowls. And then keep winning Super Bowls.

That's the model I would personally follow. Follow that model, Yogi. Do the Aaron Rodgers or the Tom Brady. You'll win some football games. I think we just cracked the case. We have a Tim Tebow update. Bad news for your boy, PFT. What's bad news?

He's batting 143. And not only that. That's perfect. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, AAA, hold on. 143 means I love you. The worst part of this is not that he's batting 143. It's that he's just making no headlines anymore. He's become a complete non-factor.

Skip Bayless can't even do a segment about him. They should bring him up. The Met should absolutely bring him up. I think he said that he was going to be brought up this year. They're idiots if they don't. Well, he stinks. So what? Let him stink out loud.

Instead of stinking in a corner somewhere that nobody pays attention to. I actually think Tim Tebow might be like, I don't think so. I don't really want to face Major League Baseball hitting when I can't even hit AAA. He would, every at bat would look like Willie Maze's last at bat, where he just swings and falls down.

Man, that's, it's tough. It's tough, Tebow. He's on base percentages, 211. OK, it's my favorite kind of malt liquor. Yes, I actually like 186. From a numerological standpoint, it's all adding up to me. Yeah. How many, how many lives has he saved with home runs that

hit somebody that was choking on a hot dog? I don't think he's hit any home runs, so that's a problem. He's gone four for his last 33. He needs to get a swag bat. He needs to save somebody's life. Or circumcise someone in the Philippines. Yeah. And then he'll be back.

Or just anyone. Just circumcise anybody. Just circumcise the closest person to you, Tim Tebow. Find. The closest cock you can find. Circumcise that shit. Find the player on your team that has the most remaining foreskin and give him a second for, a second circumcision.

Yeah, movie idea. Major League Four, people forget there was Major League Three. Major League Four and Tim Tebow is Jobu. And he's sitting there before the game being like, I got to get my swag back. I got to hit this curveball. And he's just circumcising a little child. Bring your baby.

And everyone's like, yo, dude, what the fuck are you doing? And then he gets arrested for child pornography into the movie. Would you let your son be circumcised by Tim Tebow? Yeah. Let's make that happen. No. I would not.

I would not. OK, if I had foreskin, I'd let him circumcise me. Why don't you just double it up? Can I get a foreskin graft? No, you can probably put it back on. No, you can get doubled up. Double for it? It's like a pencil that you keep doing.

I don't really have that many inches to spare. You keep shaving off a little pencil, sharpening it. Yeah, I don't know. You get the sharpest dick in this in New York City. I would like that. OK, last up before we get to our Monday Reading and Game of Thrones recap, LeBron update. LeBron is not in the playoffs, but he's still making headlines.

The Barber Shop. So the shop. The shop, sorry. The shop that's in the Barber Shop. You're thinking of Nick Saban's idea. Yeah, that's right. So I watched a little bit of it, and it's so awkward that he's just sitting in that huge chair and not getting his hair cut.

It's his throne. Well, I mean. But like, he's not getting his hair cut. Because he's LeBron. He doesn't really have hair to get cut. Every time LeBron James gets a haircut, he has to go have another hair implantation surgery. But it would be like saying, let's start a show called

The Bar, and would just none of us drink. Yeah, or yeah, if it was a recovering alcoholic, and you're like, hey, the show is called The Bar. By the way, I can't have anything to drink. Well, he can get trimmed up on his beard. You can do something. He does get trimmed up on his beard, but it's lined up. It's already lined up.

It's like Oscar Pastore is having a sneakerhead show. Is he in jail? Seth Rogen got a full haircut on it. He did? That's actually funny. He doesn't watch sports either. But anyway, the only news we got out of it was that LeBron was shocked by magic, leaving the Lakers.

And Lonzo didn't give a fuck. He was like, what are we doing tonight, Kooz? Which is awesome, because Lonzo's actually being a 22-year-old, or a 21-year-old. Yeah, that's the perfect Lonzo response. Yes. I like how Lonzo is finally, this is his first taste of freedom that he's getting.

Oh yeah. Ever since Big Ballerbrand is kind of disassociated, he's no longer a part of that. I think, did he officially divorce his dad? Well, they talked about that on the show. It wasn't his dad, it was like his, their business partner, who was his dad's best friend, like had a room in the house and shit.

He was the one that like fucked the family over. And Lonzo was like, I call my dad. I never saw this coming. It was the first time that his dad ever had nothing to say when he was like, I'm fucking out on Big Ballerbrand. Big Ballerbrand getting taken down in huge massive fraud. Never saw that coming.

Anytime your parents just have a random dude that's living in their house that controls a significant amount of their financial responsibilities, red flag. Well, anytime a dude's like, Did you see the Dane Cook story about his brother doing the same thing? Yeah, I was going to say that.

Also full house, I guarantee you Uncle Jesse was embezzling the shit out of him. Oh yeah, anytime a dude's just living in the house for a little bit, it means that he's rock bottom is rock bottom. Dude, Dave Couillet, also in that exact same house, he wasn't working as a comedian, just sucking off that tee, off that sweet saggy tee.

So LeBron, he's doing TV shows instead of playing in the NBA playoffs. So that's it, yeah. LeBron, listen, KD versus MJ is becoming a real debate. I don't know if you guys seen the timeline, but it's, people are talking about it. Who's the goat? KD or MJ?

I don't know. Also, it's a good debate to have. It's kind of weird that LeBron had no idea that Magic Johnson was leaving. That shows that Magic probably didn't have a whole lot of respect for LeBron. To put that out there. Yeah, the LeBron-Magic relationship was one of those

things that like the media, and I mean, I'm sure I did this as well, people all kind of made it out to be this huge thing, like Magic went to LeBron and was like, they've got together and the joining of powers, they probably fucking didn't even talk. They were just like, I decided. LeBron is doing his own thing.

Magic is magic, like they don't, they didn't talk. They're two fucking Alphas. They probably just stayed away from each other. Yeah, it's a very, very strange situation for LeBron. I want to believe that the Lakers are gonna be a lot better next year just because I do miss LeBron and these playoffs. Like it or not.

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I can just watch the shop get my fill. I miss him. I miss having his grimaces when he's got dumb ass teammates. The time he showed everyone his dick. Yeah, the time that he pulled his pants down, the time he was throwing chalk around and gave Chris Bosch a lung infection.

People don't talk about the fact that LeBron showed his dick to the whole world. Like that happened. That happened. Oh, what about the time he said he would compete in the slam dunk contest for sure and then he just never did it? Let's do our Monday reading

and then we got our Game of Thrones recap. So Monday reading, it's a quick one. Love letters. My wife lied about her evening with a famous athlete. So it's one of those like Q and A, Dear Abby kind of things. So she wrote it, he wrote in, I've been married to my wife for a few years,

together for about 10. We have children and I have considered everything generally happy. However, I discovered through some old Facebook messages an incident that occurred when we were engaged. Uh-oh. The minute you start looking through the old Facebook messages, you're looking for trouble.

He uncovered some years old Facebook messages. It sounds like this guy had, there was an inkling that made this guy do a little bit of digging. He definitely like went out to dinner with his wife and like a couple guys were like, hey, what's up Samantha? Haven't seen you in a while.

He's like, what the fuck's going on here? I'm gonna go through her Facebook messages. My now wife was at a bachelorette party about seven years ago. She met some famous athletes at a casino bar. Sounds like a fun time. Sounds like, I mean famous athletes, they're just looking to hang out with fans.

Yeah, they just like to connect. Yeah. This part she told me at the time. What she did not tell me was she was, she hung out with one of these athletes all night and went to their hotel room. It doesn't seem like they had sex, but stuff happened. What does stuff happen mean?

Oh, let me read that again for everyone. She went, she went into a hotel room with one of the famous athletes for the whole night. It doesn't seem like they had sex, but stuff happened. Okay. Okay, I'm filling in the blanks right now. She went to his room. Famous athlete didn't fuck your wife.

It doesn't seem like, where does he get the information for? It doesn't seem like anything happened. It was the Facebook messages that she wrote. To the athlete. I don't know. Potentially. Yeah, being like, hey, that was an awesome time.

I can't walk anymore, but it was great for all the stuff that happened. Yeah, I need stitches in my butt. But it was only because we went up there and we had room service and it was really spicy shrimp. And so I had to go make an appointment at urgent care the next day. What's the saddest part about this story?

Hold on, let me finish his writing, then I want to go through it. I feel like I've been living a lie. Should I confront her? Also, does this mean she has been on faithful beyond this encounter? What's the saddest part of this story? One, the guy goes through his wife's old Facebook message.

It's pretty sad. Two, he writes into an online calmness asking for advice on his marriage. Yeah, that's pretty sad. I'm also sad too. Three, thinking that his wife went and spent an entire night in an athlete's hotel room and no sex happened. It's possible.

It's possible that number three, if it was Tebow. Tebow wanted to fuck your wife. True, true. They were up late reading scripture. True, this is a- Stuff happened. Really sad. We got really into the book of Genesis.

God, this is one of those things where he's, this guy is gonna walk around literally to everyone he sees and be like, tell them this story. And be like, you don't think they had sex, right? Here's a little lesson to be learned from this, ladies. If you're going to cheat on your husband with a famous athlete, at least do it

from a team that your husband is a big fan of. Yes, because then he'll be like, that's fine. Then he's cool. It's like, oh, yeah, I just had to support the team. I love that guy. Yeah, yeah, he's the best. But seriously, he's definitely going around just being like, hey, let me ask you a quick question.

So hypothetically speaking, your wife goes to like, hang out with a famous athlete all night. You think they had sex? Well, through his eyes. If someone says, nah, man, he's like, yeah, you're right, nah. Through his eyes, he's like, well, what if I was hanging out in a hotel room bar

and like Richard Seymour showed up and I'm a big, big Seymour fan. And he asked me to go to his hotel and hang out. That'd be awesome. I would do that. And I wouldn't have sex with him. That's probably what she was doing too. Yes, yes.

A couple people, readers respond. This guy, I don't know what his, but he says, I suggest you forgive her in your heart. Never speak of it. Do your best to never think of it. And do not hold it over her head even silently. That guy is the most Irish guy I've ever heard. Bottle it.

His name is like Seamus O'Reilly right there. Just fucking stuff it down and never talk about it again. Never show any emotion about it whatsoever. Do not bring it up to her. Forgive her in your heart. I don't know how you can move on though, without saying it to her, right? Yeah, you just gotta be like, hey,

did he have a good game the next day? Like just let me know that. Yeah, do you hit a homerun? Can you hit him up and get some tips? Let me know if he's feeling a little under the weather, so I can bet against him. At least try to make it right on the back end. Right, right, exactly.

Get a little something out of this. Made you right on the back end. Yeah, get a little something out of this, huh? Let's do our Game of Thrones. Hang, play the music. Spoilers will be coming. Although, I feel like spoilers, I guess, are talking about it for you, if you haven't seen it.

All right, let's go in order here. So we'll go in chronological order. By the way, PFT, what I was gonna say at the beginning of the show, PFT went and had to take a shit, and he took a shit in the only part of the show that was like super dramatic. I came back and Big Cat was like, yo, they killed a dragon while you were going there.

And I was like, shut up. I thought he was just messing with it because that's classic guy humor. Yeah. It's like, oh, you were shitting, the biggest thing happened. Yeah, the dragon died. The dragon.

All right, so let's start from the beginning, and we'll go chronologically through the episode. Do you want to say sorry? I'm sorry I was wrong for having such, like, entertaining takes. Oh, okay. I'm sorry for thinking out of the box. I think your direct quote was Big Cat.

Have you ever watched a show before? If he doesn't fucking get, if he doesn't die directly through his heart or his head, he's alive. It turns out that I'm just way smarter than the writers of the show. Started the show. And so he should have been alive.

He should have been alive. You're dead, bitch. Yeah, he's dead. I'm sorry. I was wrong about that. Yes. That's what part of the show is, right? Yeah.

As a longtime viewer of the show, the most fun part about it is that you get to have all these theories about things that are coming next. True. Okay, fair. So don't get keep Game of Thrones fandom from me. Okay, so Theon's dead as fuck. Yes.

And Jorah proves terrible life lesson here by the Game of Thrones writers. The only way to get out of the friend zone is to die. Most action he got. He finally got a kiss. And Daenerys is crying. I'm like, oh, sir, Jorah. Yo, you could have fucked him when they were alive,

when he was alive. And now he's dead. And you're like, oh, it's just bad. Chicks love dead guys. That's so fucked up. It's like when an artist dies, their shit becomes worth more. Yeah, Michael Jackson goes number one. Once a guy stops being actually fuckable to a girl,

she's like, oh, I should have fucked him. Yes. Oh, man. Bet you the sex would have been so good. Damn. So the show starts and they burn every all the dead people, make sure they're really dead. And then they have like the biggest party ever,

which I can't, I can't decide if that's a fun party or like, you got to be so sore. You know how like NFL players like, yeah, the Monday after I can barely get out of bed. Imagine fighting an army of dead people for like an hour and then trying to wake up the next morning. Yeah. I don't feel like I'd want any wine.

It'd be tough. Well, so the drinking went on that night, right? I don't think anybody went to bed. Oh, no, no, no, no. There was a day and then the next night. Because well, I think a couple days passed. Okay. My understanding was during the day.

Oh, so a couple days. So it was like a Super Bowl parade. Yeah. Yeah. It was a few days. It gave me some time to- Everyone still had their fucking, you know, bumps and bruises, but maybe they got a little bit of like the knee, you know,

the knee got loosened up a little bit. Yeah. They got the duck boats out. Yeah. They were tossing fireball everywhere. Maybe get a little lactic acid. Maybe get one of those like foam rollers. Just roll it on out.

Yeah. You see, that's one thing I didn't see any of in Game of Thrones after this battle. There were no like medics or trainers. No. Like addressing the wounded. Uh-uh. Well, there were, well, you remember,

but Rob Starks' wife was a trainer. Then she got stabbed in the stomach when she was pregnant. Oh, yeah. Fucking fucked up. Red wedding. Red wedding. So the- Gendry got promoted.

Gendry got promoted. Gendry also like, dude, chill out. You're the horniest dude in the world. Well- He was like, he was sitting there eating dinner, drinking wine. Like, yo, have you seen Arya anywhere? I want to try to hit that again. Yeah.

That was very Kobe of Arya. I wrote down Arya Kobe. Yes. Yeah. For the cameras, just like, oh, game's over. I'm going to get some shots up in the empty gym while there's the ESPN camera gets me. And like, Kobe's working so hard.

Arya's just shooting arrows at a fucking stick figure. Yeah. Two things that I noticed, one from Gendry and then one from Sir Lady Brienne. Sir Brienne, yeah. Sir Lady Brienne. Yeah. So people just getting sprung left and right.

Oh, yeah. Sir Lady Brienne, she fucks once and then all of a sudden, she's addicted to it. Oh, yeah. Just let that go. Well, Jamie, by the way, classic move by him, just showing up to Sir Lady Brienne's room and being like, is it hot in here?

Yeah. Can you help me take off my, damn, this fire is so hot. Uh-huh. Whoops, am I naked? That's as romantic as guys get. It's like, this room is hot, so I'm going to take my shirt off. Yeah. But yeah, Sir Brienne, she got, like,

she's going to have some big commitment issues going on. She's never going to fuck again. Ever. This is like the worst possible thing. She fucks one guy and she's in love with him. And he's like, actually, I'm going to go die. She should have gone with Tormund, who had the line of the show, by the way,

when he asked who shit in his pants during the fight against the army of the dead. Yep. Um, who he has a ghost now, just kind of, John just kind of, Yeah. Start right away. Okay.

Let's do John Snow real quick. John Snow, I hate John Snow. I do. I'm done with John Snow. You can't just leave your dog. Direwolf. But it's a dog. It's a dog.

But the Direwolf knows to follow you, right? But he's just like, yo, you take the dog. I want to go south. Fuck that. Oh, that's, I was taking a shit when that happened. Yeah. John Snow's also being like the biggest fucking idiot ever. I mean, like, oh, I'm sorry.

I won't, I don't want to be king. I don't want to be king. Well, well, uh, Danny is going to kill everyone. She is the most jealous B in the world. Like her eyes, she wants to murder every single Stark, whether you're a real Stark, fake Stark. I don't care. She's going to murder your ass.

Don't you think so, Hank? No, I disagree. I'm still team Tark. Okay. But so, uh, they, they had the little meeting. The Starks had the meeting. Bran continues to be the worst. Like, dude, just give a straight answer for once.

Everything's got to be a riddle with him. It's a puzzle. It's more fun for people around him. Listen, your choice to tell or not. Shut up. If you're, if you're Bran, the last thing that you have going for you is your ability to play mind games with people. Just fuck with him a little bit.

Bran is the, Bran is your friend who thinks he's so much smarter than he is. And you're just like, dude, come on. You just stop. Just give us a straight answer. Stop. Everything's a riddle. Yeah.

Uh, Samuel Tarly fucks. Nice for him. Everyone fucks. But it's good for him to see that he can, you know, actually Barstool Carl had a, had a perfect twist. Every frat had a Samuel Tarly. It's true. He's the one pudgy guy.

He's just like, hey, good for you, man. He did it. Everyone roots for that guy. It's very true. Um, I had made a note. Everyone's just like always wheeling carts and shit around. Uh, Winterfell. Yup.

What's up with that? Like there's part of the, it's firewood for the fires. It has to be always. They're just like always, there's carts. It reminded me so much of like a slapstick police comedy where people are just walking around carrying like plate glass windows and fruit carts everywhere. Yes.

And you just know they're going to get spilled over. Yes. And some hilarious chase. Yes. Pretty much. Okay. The other thing I had was people have very nice highlights in their hair.

Oh yeah. Are they putting, are they using like lemon juice? Do you know what? Sun in. The, the breath must be so bad. Very bad. When like Aria and Gendry's kissed is like, dude, January was just eating probably pigs liver and drinking shitty ass

wine. And now he wants to, you know, have sex. Like, of course, Aria's like, hell no. Aria and the Hound greatest tag team since X Poc and, and Cain greatest tag team of all time. I don't get how, how are you going to, like, there was some problems with the writing with this episode. How are you going to have a battle meeting?

A war meeting. Aria just killed the fucking night King. How about you just say, and they're like arguing about whether or not they should rest the soldiers and wait to go to King's Landing? Why don't you just say, Aria, go fucking take care of Cersei. If she can't do it, then we'll go. Because Daenerys is the worst leader of all time, which brings me right next.

But Aria could have brought it up to like, hey, I was already going to go kill Cersei. Don't worry about it. The fact that you like Daenerys and she, all she does is get her stupid, all she does is she gets her fucking dragons killed every single turn. She makes the, she is the worst dragon owner of all time. Honestly, like if she, she, they would come and take that,

those dragons away. Like you are not fit to own a dragon because everywhere you go, the dragon gets killed. You're just flying around having fun. Boom, a dragon gets killed. DPS would intervene. Yes. So I, what I gathered was she was just like taking the dragons

for a little joy ride and they got hit with an arrow. Hank, they were going home. Okay. One, Hank, one. The dragons, why are you flying them at fucking 500 feet? Fly them up in the stratosphere, dude. They can't hit them up there. She's so stupid.

They were home free. She's so exactly the, the 99% of car accidents happen within a mile of your house. Fact. And dragons get killed at the same clip. She was, the dragons were there. Literally, they were a mile away from Dragonstone. Oh, that's where dragons are from, is Dragonstone.

Yes. And she was like, oh, we're home. We're cool. What happens when, boom, then you run, you run a stop sign, you get blindsided. You're dead. What happens when dragons get back to Dragonstone? Are there other dragons there?

No. The boys are back in town. The situation. PFT, she's only got three dragons. She's killed two of them. She's a fucking idiot. There needs to be like a Sarah McLaughlin type commercial just of, of all these murdered dragons that are everywhere.

And here's the, here's my biggest problem. She just like, the dragons are awesome. They spit fire. They can fuck everything up. She just doesn't use them. She doesn't use them. She should have used them more in the army, the dead in the battle of Winterfell.

It was a blizzard. When her, when her one dragon gets killed, go and bust their asses up. Dracarius them. Go around, dude, and come back. She tried to. She went flying straight into them. She never fucking Dracarius them.

She's an idiot. Is there any possibility that we get another dragon egg out of this situation? I hope not. Because honestly, that dragon will just die. They keep, they're killing the magic. Like they really should not let, let Daenerys own another dragon for the rest of the time.

But they should give a dragon to somebody else. Only, only Targs can have dragons. It was Jon Snow's dragon. And Jon Snow was being cool and was like, hey, my dragon's really tired. I'm not going to fuck with it. But he hates, he hates dragons. It's absolutely karma for Jon Snow.

He was like, you know what, fuck you ghosts. I have a dragon like, you know, you're a nice, you're good, but take it easy. But it was like a rust versus rust thing. Like do you really want your dragons to take all that time off and then they come out for the second battle and they've had too much time to relax? Well, you know what it is, is Daenerys is like Tom Tibodeau

and she's like, let's just fucking play the dragons a hundred minutes a game and they'll all just die. I don't want a dragon that doesn't want to go to battle for me immediately after another dragon. Brutal. So the only other thing I had was. Stance is the biggest snitch of all time. That's what you had.

That's where you took away from this. Oh yeah. I have one. What did Stance snitch about? Ned Stark kept that secret for like, that was his whole life. He basically died for that secret. Listen, man, you can't tell everyone that. Jon went to his sisters and his sisters were like, oh, we're family.

You know, we've got to stick together and Jon was like, promise you won't tell me. He made him swear. Both made him both swear. Okay. The second she got a chance, she went running to Daenerys' hand. No, no. Dude, did you not watch the scene?

Tyrion was like, yeah, that's not a, he's never been a real Stark. And she's like, oh, he knows. And then she said it. Yes, Hank. Come on. Follow along. Snitch. Various, various.

Snitch and hater. Want to talk about unbelievable shit, various. Front runner. That dude, he's the dickless dude who walks around with his hands in his pockets. Is he talking with this? He's got a big ass head. Yeah. He's got a big ass head.

Damn. Oh, he's got a big fucking head. So he walks around slowly, like shuffles slowly. And he's basically been there forever. He's got no dick. He's got a bald head. He has never broken a sweat in his life. And then all of a sudden the boats get blown up and he swims to shore.

That guy can't swim. That's a good point. That guy can't swim. No chance. I still don't know who you guys are talking about. The big dick. The dickless dude who's, he's like, he just. The problem with the show is there's too many dickless guys.

He's not the nerd. Is he? Okay. The front runner. He says he serves the realm. Like whoever he thinks is in first place. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The bald, the totally bald guy that had the long conversation about, about Khaleesi. Yes. Yes. I'm here to serve my team. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I know exactly. I don't like that guy. I don't like him either. He's going behind everybody's back. He doesn't have a dick. He's probably just been hanging out with Tebow too much. And Tebow is just circumcising him once a year until he gets down to just a nub. Slowest walker of all time.

And then all of a sudden he swims like four miles to shore. He's out of shape. Give me a break. Give me a break. Yeah. I don't care about your girl Cersei. Badest bitch alive. I think, I think Cersei's just an internet troll.

Oh. I think Cersei just loves triggering people. She doesn't have a master plan about anything. Yeah. She's just always like I'm going to do the thing that's going to piss these people off the most because it's funny to me when other people are mad at me. Well no. She prays everyone else in this game, in the Game of Thrones.

Everyone else in this entire series plays with their heart. Cersei plays with her head. She doesn't give a shit. She will, she will kill anyone, anywhere, anytime. She does not care. But why don't you kill everyone else? But they show up and they're like well because dude you got to play by the rules. They show up and I agree it was very stupid that she didn't just blow up everyone.

But they show up because they love, what's her name? Missande. Missande. And they're like, they're letting their heart, they're basically letting their heart get in way of a good war. They're making emotional decisions. Right. And Cersei's like look at these idiots.

I'm going to really make them mad. I'm going to really make them cry. Boom. Your head's cut off. She loves people being mad at her. She's like I'm triggering you. She's like hey Danny, you're so triggered right now. And Danny's just like crying because she's losing a drag and losing her best friend.

Hank. But what I'm saying is Cersei has no master plan after that. Her end game. Oh no, her plan is just kill them. Her end game is just make everybody mad at me for triggering them. No, her end game is to literally murder every single person on earth until she has another incest child and then makes them king. But then maybe kills them too.

Hank, you hate Cersei, right? Yeah. That's what she is. That's what she is. That's the worst take ever. She needs to be de-platformed. That's the worst take ever. Why are you so concerned with my take?

Cersei makes the show great. Cersei makes the show great. Yeah, she makes the show great, but I still hate her. She's the straw that stirs the drink. So she makes the show go. Hank, where do you see this going? Because it's about to go down in the next episode. Well actually, let's save it for Friday.

Do our preview slash predictions. Because season, episode five is supposed to be the one that everything happens. I'll say this about Cersei. Make sure you take a ship beforehand. Yeah, well that didn't help me this time. Five guys went right through. Cersei has an all time smirk on her face. First team all smirk.

Bro, she chooses violence. That's a line from it. Targs and six. If they had another fucking dragon, she'd get a kill. Well, series doesn't start till a road team wins a game. So if they take Night's Landing, then it's really serious. Alright, we'll see everyone. King's Landing.

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