Pardon My Take - Rob Mac From Always Sunny, ACC Defending Champ Mardy Fish, Chill Week Finale + Mt Rushmore Of C Things And We’re Writing A Book
Episode Date: July 11, 2025Chill Week Finale and we’re writing a book that we come close to cancelling because it’s going to be too much work. National Sports podcast things (00:00:00-00:19:00). Mt Rushmore of C Things (00:...19:00-00:37:41). Rob Mac aka Rob McElhenney from Always Sunny joins the show to talk Golf, Always Sunny In Philadelphia, the time he gained 60 lbs for the show, Danny Devito and tons more (00:37:41-01:30:48). Former Tennis Pro and American Century Championship defending Champ Mardy Fish joins the show to talk about the tournament this week, who’s the GOAT in tennis, Hank’s golf game, and mental health with professional athletes (01:30:48-01:54:20). We finish with Fyre Fest week and the conclusion to Chill Week (01:54:20-02:21:30).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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On today's pardon my take, we have the finale of Chill Week and an awesome interview with Rob Mac.
Phil Week.
Yeah, used to be Rob Macalaney from Always Sunny. And we also have a good friend of ours who is an AWL and maybe
going to win this golf tournament, Marty Fish.
We're going to recap everything from Chill Week.
We've got the Mount Rushmore of words to start with C for
chill. And we also are going to write a book.
So we'll talk to you about that.
We announced that on Dan Patrick's show on Wednesday.
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Today is Friday, July 11th, and we are at the finale of Chill Week, boys.
It's been a hell of a week.
Happy Free Slurpee Day.
Happy Free Slurpee Day.
7-Eleven.
Yeah. There we go. That's huge for everyone.
Yep.
So, we're out here in Tahoe. Great week.
Great week.
We crushed it.
So chill.
I feel like we had a great chill time, made some great videos, did some great interviews,
and also we announced that we're writing a book.
Yeah.
Ultimate future us problem.
Oh boy.
So announcing that you're writing a book is the funnest part of writing a book.
Oh yeah.
Now we got to write a book.
Yeah.
And you know us.
If you've listened to part of my take over the years, you know a couple things about
us.
Number one, we love to read.
It's like our favorite thing.
Yep.
Number two, we're very punctual with following through on every single commitment that we ever make and promises. Max hasn't done the Dingers favorite thing. Yep. Number two, we're very punctual with following through on every single commitment that we
ever make and that's it hasn't done the Dingers only thing.
Yeah.
So, uh, Max, you only grab the mic.
It's okay.
It's just, it's just a fact that you haven't done the punishment.
People are heckling him by the way.
There was a guy yesterday, don't, don't do that.
He's like, when is Max pitching?
You see him out and don't ask him why he's not doing the only league. The guy asked me and
he's like, when's Max pitching? I was like, oh, he's right there. Go ask him. And he went up to him.
It's like, when's Max pitching? But yeah, we love to read. And so we want to share that joy with the
the AWLs. But now we've been approached several times over the years to do a book. We've taken
a lot of meetings. And we've ended up canceling the books at the last minute several times,
which always feels great to do. Yes. Um, but this year it's going to be
the 10th year anniversary next year. So going up into next year, we have to
start working on a book. It felt like it would be the right time to do it.
Yeah. 10 years of pardon my take. Uh, it's been crazy. It's been awesome.
And we're like, Hey, we didn't want to write a book. Uh, yeah, I mean, I,
I think there's been like three or four times PFT and I have taken meetings about books
and we've always been like, no, we don't want to do this.
It's like stupid.
We don't want to have, be like, hey, go buy our book.
But then it's like 10 years.
That's a lot of history.
That's a lot of stories that we're going to tell.
A lot of memories, maybe some unreleased photos,
all that type of stuff.
Hank can empty the vault.
Yeah, Hank's going to empty the vault. All the bad pictures.
Hank's gonna write an entire chapter without the use of autocorrect.
Yeah, it seems like you guys have just been already like pawning off this book.
You're like, oh, this person's gonna write a chapter.
This person's gonna write a chapter.
This person's gonna write a chapter.
Oh, I woke up this morning and we had a text from our good friend Scott Van Pelt to PFT
and I was like, congrats on the book.
And by the way, we have not written a single word.
We have not done anything.
So there is no congrats right now, but I immediately-
It felt good to hear though.
I was like, yeah, yeah, you're right, Scott.
I immediately- It's hard work.
I immediately replied to Scott and I was like,
you know that you have to write a chapter for us.
So he's in, so-
It's like somebody congratulating you
because your wife's pregnant.
Yeah.
It's like, yep, I did it.
Yeah, look at me.
There we go. Book, we wrote a book. But yeah, no yep, I did it. Yeah, look at me. There we go.
Book, we wrote a book.
But yeah, no, we are going to write the majority of the book.
Well, we have a ghostwriter.
He's going to talk with us, then write some of the book.
Then we're gonna write some of the book.
Then we're gonna interview the ghostwriter
and write a chapter of that in the book.
But he has, the ghostwriter's gonna have to write
the chapter about himself.
Correct.
After interviewing us about our interview
with the ghost writer.
Correct.
But no, I think instead of, you know how we used to do back in the day, do you wash your
apples to every guest?
I think we have to add a question to every interview.
Will you write a chapter in our book to every guest?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's going to be the dumbest book ever created.
And it's not going to be, it is.
Like I don't want to, we're not going to write like a tell all that's like super serious. It's not gonna be it is like I don't want to we're not gonna write like a tell-all that's like super serious it's gonna be stupid I had the idea
yesterday like every 20 25 pages will be just a different quarterback kneeling
in victory formation letting you know that we're trying to run out the clock
to the end of the book and just get as many pages you know in this book yeah we
do want to include some good stuff in there oh we, we're definitely going to include some good stuff.
You will never see people take, like, we're going to take being lazy very seriously when
it comes to writing.
Correct.
It's going to be fun.
There's going to be some, like, we're going to have some of the people that mean a lot
to us.
They won't have to write full chapters, but we'll have them interviewed, tell them, they'll
be able to tell their side of it.
But yeah, it's going to be, we don't want it to be, we want it to be done.
Yep. We want to be stupid.
Big font. Double spaced.
Word searches, maybe crossword
puzzles. There might be a chapter that's
just a full, it's a full chapter of just
indentation. A maze? Yeah, where it's
just like the, it's blank page, blank page, and then it's
the start of the paragraph, end of the chapter. Yeah,
it's going to be fun to do, I think. Excited
to get into it, but again, we're saying that as two guys that have not started
writing the book yet.
Yes, correct.
But I look forward to the challenge.
Yes, we do.
All right, what do we have?
So get excited.
It's going to be probably next late next summer.
Yeah.
What was that, Hank?
What was that, Hank?
Well, here's the problem.
We actually do have deadlines that they like yeah they're real everything you guys just described
nothing like next summer no it's gonna have to be next summer it has to be
there's deadlines and they like I feel like people miss deadlines we're gonna
miss deadlines you know what they do the publishing industry if you don't hit a
deadline I know I have they kill you that's why they call it a deadline.
Yeah.
Hank and I could be like the last people on the planet to know anything about the publishing industry.
Well guess what, the third and fourth people who know, like we don't know anything.
We've just taken a co... All I know is we've taken a few meetings with people that feel like they're way more adult than us.
And I don't want to disappoint those people.
That's fair to say, right?
I think that's completely fair.
It's like people with their shit together are going to be like,
hey, we need this.
And then we're going to have to we're going to get to a fork
of the road where PFC.
I just stop responding to these people and pretend that we never
said anything about this and never did anything and have to
give back the money or we're going to actually have to write
a book.
That will be the interesting point. You might have to
delete this podcast. It's just to Patrick show. It's like we never said that. I never
said that. Then we get so many people who congratulate us on not having to write a book.
We probably hear more from those people. Dude, we should just, Hey, you know what? Here's
the other announcement you thought about canceling the book. No, no, no, no. I'm thinking of something different. I thought
because I thought about it right now. No. And no, you want to
just say fuck it. No, no, no. I was gonna go one more. Think
about it. We wrote a movie. It's gonna come out in a couple
years. So everyone should congratulate us. Just get
congratulations for shit. We're never gonna talk about that.
It's gonna be a movie based on the book.
Yeah, right. We opened a restaurant. Congratulations, Soss.
Okay.
I'm kind of addicted to just getting congratulated for shit we're never gonna do.
Every kid in my hometown that went to my elementary school, I'm gonna give you a full ride to college The
the people who are
Responsible for getting this book made are going to freak when they hear this
Yeah, cuz we're very close to canceling. What if we just said it though?
It would it would clear up our schedule significantly it would be the van talk of books
Yeah, we and we have all the power.
Yeah.
Because we're just like, no, we're not going to write it.
And they haven't given us the money yet.
Right.
15 years is a better number.
15 years?
Good point.
Yeah.
20 years?
That hits better.
Oh, man.
Zach?
You guys should go.
Yes or no?
On the book?
Yeah.
I think you should go book.
Maybe just go big font.
OK.
But you hold the power right now. If you say no, we will cancel the book? Yeah. I think you should go book. Maybe just go big font, you know? Okay. But you hold the power right now. If you say no, we will cancel the book.
You should do what you should do the book. I don't think you should put a time
for it. You should rush it. You're in the pocket. I think our publisher is,
but he's been paid off. Yeah. We saw some release of spark notes on her book.
Oh, definitely. Yeah. It's called a podcast.
Do we just write a book right now?
Should we go for lowest book sales ever?
Okay, we sell one book.
Well, there's going to be more listens to the audiobook.
Yeah. We sell one. Jerry O'Connell's doing the audiobook.
But it's like he doesn't know that.
Where somebody pays three million dollars for the one copy of her.
Yeah, yeah, we could do that.
We do know some wealthy guys might want it.
All right, what's going on in sports world?
Anything that we need to talk about?
We have a seventh?
Huge, huge sports day today.
Yeah.
Brawny versus Flagg.
Did it already happen?
It's tonight.
Well, it's tomorrow.
It's yesterday as the show comes out Thursday night
Summer League, okay
Ronnie or scooper flag
Huge matchup. Who's the face of the league?
Who who's who should have been the face of league should have been who is the face of summer league? Okay
Alright, so it starts in an hour as we're taping this. I think Cooper flag went off. I think he did too.
Yeah.
I think he's better than we thought he was.
I think he's yeah, significantly better
than we thought he was.
Now that he got away from Duke.
Yeah.
What else?
Oh, Brent Rooker is in the Home Run Derby.
So we have seven out of eight now.
It's huge.
I mean,
Announce.
Is he going to do this to us?
Is he going to do it? Yeah.
Okay.
Who else are we looking at?
Who besides the guys have been announced one else is up there
in terms of home runs hit this year.
Why isn't Aaron judging it?
He should do it.
Judge do it.
Did you guys see one Soto complaint like he was mad that
he didn't make the All-Star game because it cost him money
and I think it costs him $100,000.
He makes like a quadrillion dollars.
Yeah, it's okay.
He'll be fine.
He just he's all about that money.
$100,000.
Yeah, wait, what was it?
What do you think?
I think it's a lot of money on the table if I make it.
$100,000 bonus would be 0.00131 of his current salary.
Okay. So he will probably make that amount of money just in the times like bitching about not being on the all-star.
Correct.
In his investments.
Correct.
Okay.
Correct.
All right, wait, so seven out of eight, when are they getting out to the eighth?
The pop on Yellich would be, they would, the numbers would be pretty big on MLB for the like just to
retweet some who else is out there PCA PCA could do it he had to today judge
you got 25 what who was that was that max you wish he said he's on my
dingers only I think that's you I think call sure well you can't talk about
dingers only until you pitch that's fair word, last word I'll ever say until I pitch.
Yeah.
Schwaber.
Schwaber would be great.
Schwaber's already said that he doesn't want to do it.
Shut up, Max.
You already said that you were done talking about it.
That's...
More words, those are more words you just used.
This is home run.
You just had words.
Home run Derby and Dingers only are two different things.
It's Dingers.
It's not only Dingers. The home run Derby is Dingers only are two different things. It's Dingers. It's not only Dingers.
The Home Run Derby is quite literally only Dingers.
It's literally Dingers count.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's not our fantasy baseball.
No more words.
No more words.
The Thunder signed all their players?
Yep, they did.
Well, Caruso.
Yeah, they need to get Caruso.
Is he next?
He must be.
So yeah, they gave out a con, what was it?
$270 million, five years, is that what the term for?
For Jalen Williams?
Yeah.
I think it was 287 and then check got paid too.
Did that was, was that, when did check get paid?
Yesterday.
Okay, so they, so the Thunder in total
have given $822 million in contracts to those three guys.
It's pretty good. Money's not real.
That's money is not real.
And there's a lot of people who are trying to say that this will be the end of the Thunder
because you can't pay all three guys.
But I think what their plan is and it might work is that they have so many draft picks.
They'll just keep drafting and not paying those guys and then pay their three guys.
Yeah.
And hope the role players like, hey, you're going to, you're going to play
well if you get drafted, get paid very little money, but you get to play with
three really good players.
So what do all these contracts mean for the apron?
Uh, I don't know.
They might be in G they might be in prison.
Prison prison.
I got to get a look into that apron.
Yeah.
You got to get under that apron apron.
Uh, do we have any other sports news?
Not your hair is not your hairee Harris does have both eyes.
Yes. He had a, quote, superficial eye injury.
Yes.
But is expected to be back for training camp.
The superficial part of the eye, wouldn't that be the eyelid injury?
Maybe his eye. Yeah, that would be.
Because like your eye is not superficial.
Yeah. Right? Or I guess maybe he just scraped the skin of his eye? I yeah that would be because like your eye is not superficial.
Yeah. Right.
Or I guess maybe he just scraped the skin of his eye or he doesn't sound good. He's got a little boo boo. His eyes were closed in a firework. Blast them in the face.
Huh? Why would you close your eyes during fireworks though?
Cause one's coming at your face.
Yeah, true.
Um, we also had, uh, I think people are fat shaming Patrick Holmes again.
Yeah, they are. So yeah.
Well, and his trainer is threatening to beat anyone up.
Oh, that's fat.
That's awesome.
He keeps saying like, drop your location.
He says like five guys.
I like this move by his trainer.
That's a good guy for Patrick Mahomes.
Yes.
Okay.
He's got a little beer belly, dad bod, whatever.
Still good quarterback.
I, in fact, I would prefer if my quarterback
didn't have like an eight pack.
Yeah.
It's way too much time working on your core.
Yeah, so yeah, it was a Kansas City radio host
rips disgrace Patrick Mahomes for off season dad bod.
What does it matter?
Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah.
He wins.
I mean, it would matter maybe like later on in his career
if he's like out of shape and gets injured,
but if he went to, he's gone to three straight
Super Bowl, he went to the super he did get beaten up in the
Super Bowl. He did get beaten up in the Super Bowl. But I don't
think that this has to be like Kansas City Sports Radio, like
you got to have something but like realize that you have a
pretty good and there'll be a day that will come 10 years 15
years from now we'd be like, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have
Nitpicked the guy who brought all the success to our city. Yeah, I'm gonna guess that it's not necessarily coming from inside the house
I think most of the accusations of fat are coming from other teams and that could actually be great for a Kansas City Chiefs fan
because the last five six years you've just had to
Invent reasons why
people hate the Kansas City Chiefs and why people doubt you. Now you actually
have people making fun of your quarterback. Now you've got an actual
person to be mad at. Yeah. Other than Will Compton. Yeah. Will Compton. Yeah. Okay.
Anything else? Sports-wise? No one? It's July, baby. I just can't wait for Summer League, you know me.
Yeah, our interviews are great today.
And we, well, we've been kind of out of pocket.
I mean, I haven't watched anything all week
because we've been working.
Yep.
You guys seen any, I don't know if I've seen any sports.
I saw some baseball highlights.
A little Summer League, a little WNBA.
I did watch some at Brewer's game
when the Miz was pitching.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Filthy Mizness.
He had to turn it tune in for that. Oh, also, Happy Birthday to Mudang.
One years old. I forgot about Mudang. Yeah.
She got a little bit big. That's a problem with Pygmies.
She's a tortured. What'd you say?
Isn't she like a tortured animal? Why?
She's in a what are you talking about?
They like take advantage of her. How so? Wasn't that a thing?
What is it, Jeffrey Perlman or whatever?
What was the guy's name?
The boy band guy?
Oh, Lou Perlman.
Yeah, pretty much.
They like wake him up and like force him to
Her?
Her to be awake when it's not supposed to be
and you know, take advantage of her.
Where'd you get these facts?
It sounds like what we do to Hank.
It sounds like they wake him up and they make him like perform when he's not ready to be awake.
They make Mudang awake.
Mudang doesn't get to play golf anymore.
And when he does, they just make fun of him for it.
Where'd you read this Hank?
I remember when it was like when she was hot last year.
They like she was under one and you're calling her hot.
So just like hot like in the public in the public space when you were posting her every
day.
Yeah, you were the pervert.
No, you're the pervert.
You're posting videos of a one year old every day.
What is hippo years to human?
I don't know.
I feel like they might be an animal that lives a long time because they just
kill on water and yours. It's a human years means sea cow.
That's manatee. I forget what this bottom is. Hippos generally live 35 to 50 years, which is equivalent equivalent to around 36 human years.
So a 10 year old hippo would be roughly equivalent to a 27 year old human.
What? Okay. Oh yeah, that makes sense. So Moodang is like three almost. Yeah. So Hank, you just
called a three year old hot. Just so you know, how it's her. Uh, okay. We will let's do our Mount
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Okay boys, Mount Rushmore of C words.
Things that begin with the letter C.
I thought I prepared for a different amount
rush more of C words. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well that could be on there. Uh, what is the, what's
the score? Eight, nine. I don't even know what the score is. Just tell me the score.
Ten eight six. What was our, what was the phrase that we came up with that we're trying to stay strong?
We're gonna stay strong.
Stay strong, don't, stay strong, don't, don't break.
All right, doesn't feel like we've...
Maybe shorten that a little bit.
All right, I don't know if our team is...
That wasn't it.
We're still feeling it.
We're shaky, we're shaky.
Who goes first?
I think we're up first, right?
We're last.
Hank, you have the chance to do
the funniest thing ever right now.
Yeah.
Number one, we doing Christ.
Your your ball your ball captain.
Oh man, Hank did put church down on the way.
But I thought Christ would be a good one,
but we're not going to go to Christ.
We're going to go one, one, chicks.
Ooh, nice.
Chicks, chicks.
God help me, I just love women.
Okay. What do you think about that, Hank?
I love it.
Yeah? Feeling good about that?
Yeah.
Okay.
Who do I mean?
Who amongst us?
Who amongst us?
Maybe Zach doesn't like chicks. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, us? Who amongst us? Maybe Zach. Doesn't like
chicks. Yeah. Oh, baby chickens. Is it, was that the one, was it, were we talking baby
chickens or were we talking women? Women. Okay. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's good that you
clarified that. Just in case. Yeah. Fair point. I think we go with R111, right? I think so
too. Okay. All right. We're going to go one. Our first pick. We're going to go college football. Yep. That was our one. Do you love college football? I love college football. Do you
watch a lot of it? I watched a lot of college. Okay. All right. Why? There was some debate
last last fall. What? You had a who was it? Somebody accused you of not watching that
much college football. Who? I forget who it was. What? Yeah. I don't think anyone
accused me. I remember that. Who was it? You guys are just making this up now Hank
because you definitely don't. I know your face better than anything. I
remember PFC's right. What we're doing to make it stuff up? Draft. Okay you guys
are up. Yep. How you feel Max? I might go rogue. You guys need to go rogue because you're too good at this. I'm thumbsing up your
message that you sent. They're too good at this. Go rogue. I
think we there's college football is great pick. I don't
know why we didn't think about this. We could we're going to
go college basketball. Okay. Yeah. College basketball also
great. I also had that on the list and then the next is coffee.
Yep. I knew I knew it was gonna get taken. That's okay. Yeah. It goes
college soccer. Well, I also I was thinking about it and if we
had ended up with coffee and I had done a coffee meme like I
always do every morning, Hank would have then accused me of
possibly messing with the draft like you did on Wednesday.
I tweeted the picture of Jesus every morning.
Their morning prayers.
Our Lord is good.
Okay, this is where we gotta get to,
this is where we gotta stay strong.
Stay strong, don't break.
Stay strong, don't break.
All right, what are you, I'm following your lead.
You tell me what you think is gonna be great here.
Zach, just go around.
Do we pivot? Wait, pick what? I don't know what you're talking about. No, I don't your lead. You tell me what you think is gonna be great here. Zach, just go roll. Do we pivot?
Wait, pick what?
I don't know what you're talking about.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah, we'll back it down.
I was gonna say three here is good.
Yeah, yeah, we would be both like that.
Okay, yeah.
All right. I like it.
We're gonna go chocolate.
Okay. Chocolate.
Good pick.
Love chocolate.
Very good pick.
Thank you.
I like her too.
Yeah, we'll take cash. Hat on the had on the list cash money. Yeah, cash is king.
Good pick. Hank. What do we do here for three? I think you
let it rip. Let it rip. Cocaine. Okay, I had it on my
cocaine. Hank didn't want me to take it. I had on my list too
and it's not good for you. You shouldn't do it, but it's
pretty good. Yeah, I had it on my list too.
Hey.
I did not have it on my list.
You did not.
For the record.
It's a team game.
Nine?
Yeah.
I think you're right.
I want you to start playing.
Okay.
I want Zach to start playing.
Oh, we're playing, boys.
We're in.
We're in here.
We're in here.
All right.
Go.
We're next?
Okay, we would like to take.
We would like to take Christmas we would like to take Christmas.
There you go.
Good pick.
Good pick.
Good pick.
I thought you were gonna change at the last second there.
I thought I was on it.
We have that.
I did?
Yeah, I did.
You gotta tell me after what you thought you were gonna pick.
I can do that.
Okay. All right.
We can't get off track right here.
You're right.
We're on track. We're good.
Stay strong. Don't break.
We're gonna go, we're good. Stay strong, don't break. We're gonna go with cake.
Good pick.
This is tough.
There's so many good C words.
I know, I'm trying to think of...
This is one that we should we go broad or we should have
probably gone six everyone in could have broken this up
because we will do so mad at the seas that we left off. Yeah,
because we are going to do that. I think at some point this
this summer we're going to do a draft where we do a Mount Rush
where all six of us have individual picks, but all the
points count for the team. Gotcha, OK, I'm. I'm do it. Rip it. Go cheesesteak. Yeah.
Great pick. Great pick. Best food out there. Second time
cheesesteak has been taken in this room. Yeah. Oh yeah. The
sandwich. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right.
Adominable. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not staying strong anymore.
You are. You are. You're strong. You're strong.
We'll get back to strong.
I'm looking at 13.
13?
13?
13, 4, 5.
I got a lot of heat for that.
5 is good. 13? Like 13 rips.
Yeah, it's a great sandwich.
Right, right. No, guys because I think this was the start of
meatball, I think for me. So 13, four and five are like, I
would think everyone we're not saying stay strong. We're
breaking. You know, Zack is turning big cat into Zack. I am
I can't D&D all over. He's so strong over here. Go. I'm not strong right now. Five. I'm not strong
right now. Seven. I'm crunching that. Give us your fourth. Hank
could be golfing right now. Zach, Zach, you take this bit.
Yeah, Tom Crouch. I just took the last one. He's gonna take
the fourth right here. Let's go. Go eight.
Can't go eight. I almost wanted to just not do a pick because
I'm just I'm so I'm so frozen and I don't know eight. I almost want to just not do a pick because I'm just, I'm so, I'm so frozen and I don't
know.
You just go.
You go.
Okay.
You go.
You go.
All right.
Yeah.
Fine.
Zach's getting the ball.
Fourth, we'd like to take cheeseburgers.
All right.
I like it.
Feel good.
Yes.
That was solid because I was paralyzed and I wanted to take cheeseburgers, but then I
wanted to take another thing.
So you do the other thing.
Great job. We'll talk about it later. We'll circle back. Yeah. Great job. You too. Same to you. I think we stay strong. They either are.
Those are two great picks. I like that. I stay true to myself. All right. Seven on our list.
Candy. Good pick. Taking candy. Yep. So much great. So much variety. Great fourth round pick. Yeah.
Chocolate. You got sour. You got Twizzlers. You got everything candy. So what I was
going to decide between let's get chocolate here. All of them
are strong. They're all strong. You guys. I think I think we're
going to come in third. I think I have a good a good view of
this. I went to one now rush for like, yes, what is it? I was
going to be one. You guys are gonna be two. We're gonna be
through. I think it's gonna be one, two, three.
We should get him dressed up like Steve Kornacki.
I have a good feeling of Mount Rushmore's
and that's how I feel.
No, you are the king of Mount Rushmore's.
You could actually create a Mount Rushmore of seas
out of honorable mentions that could win, potentially.
Oh yeah.
There's so many good ones out there.
Sure.
So wait, what were you deciding between,
what did you almost go rogue with?
10. Well, you could say it. Oh, I was sure. So wait, what were you deciding between? What did you almost go rogue with? 10.
Well, you could say I was thinking maybe going Call of Duty.
Yeah, it's a good pick, but it's a great one.
But I think Christmas probably plays better than Call of Duty.
Christmas, everybody.
A lot of people like Christmas.
Not everybody.
Yeah.
Not everyone.
Definitely not everybody.
I was going to go coming.
Yeah.
That on the list.
You always give us shit for sexual, but.
We want you guys with chicks first. We were going to go chicks, cash, cocaine, coming. Yeah, that on the list. You always give us shit for sexual, but we want you guys
with chicks first. We're gonna go chicks, cash cocaine coming. We had all those and
then we're just basically marketing to the audience of Dan Bilzerian. We're gonna go
to that vote. We had chilies. Yeah, chilies. Crikey. I would have picked them. Crikey.
Chili's. Put the word crikey. Yeah,. How about words? Crikey. Castles.
Castles.
Castles.
Corn.
Cheese.
Chicago.
Cigarettes.
I was debating between going cheese and broad or cheese steaks, but then I thought I was
like, I get more excited to have a cheese steak than I do to have like just cheese,
just a slice of cheese.
Comedy.
Yeah, we had comedy on there.
We almost picked it with our fourth round. Couch. Couch is great. Nothing better than a couch. We had of cheese. Comedy. Yeah, we had comedy on there. We almost picked it with our fourth round.
Couch.
Couch is often better than a couch.
We had Cunnilingus.
Yep.
Yep.
Corn.
You.
Nah, we've done it too much this week.
Chips and dip.
Oh, chips and dip is good.
Chips.
Just chips.
Yeah, we were thinking about it because like chips,
we don't know, you get bad chips too,
but chips and dip and then Cool Ranch Doritos. Oh yeah.. I wanted to get specific or the goat. Yeah, I thought about just doing college in general, but I did too. But we put ourselves in a spot of like we, you can't do college football and college. I can't do college basketball and yeah, concerts, concerts, computers. Yeah, so I had cell phones, computers, cell phones suck though, because that yeah, it
just work.
Karnia Sada work.
Zach had an interesting.
Oh, one that would have been great is chilling with the boys.
Yeah, just chilling with the boys.
I didn't say this to me, but I thought it personally cranking hog.
Oh, that one good.
Zach had one that I still don't really understand,
but I'd like to say it.
And then you can just clarify, I guess.
Construction workers.
Yeah, so much infrastructure to everything that we do.
This building, all of our homes,
all of the establishments we go to.
I mean, the ground work of civilization,
all the construction workers deserve so much credit.
Yeah, shout out.
I also think construction equipment
would have been cool too.
Also, shout out Chevy's.
Chevy's, yes.
Big time.
That would have been a great pick.
Yeah, carbs, carbs are great.
We almost took carbs early,
which I think would have been a mistake. Car put his carbs kind of have like a bad.
I love carbs, but a lot of people are like, oh, carbs.
You got to limit your carbs.
Fuck that.
You got to eat more of that.
Those people are lying to themselves.
Hank put corner kicks on the list.
Oh, Hank.
Just brainstorming.
Yeah.
What about Cher?
Cher.
All said Cher.
Calling a timeout.
Creedence Clearwater Revival.
CCR.
Banger.
Dion. Celine Dion. Carmen Electra. We had Charles Barkley
Zack put in Christiano Ronaldo. Yep. Oh no
Yep, I see Chilean sea bass also Zack put in curry comma Steph
You don't like Chilean sea bass. Oh your pictures make me giggle
Chris Farley Chris Rock. He had Chris Tucker.
Chris Farley's good pick.
Chris Stapleton.
No one took cookies.
Cookies or candy.
We had that debate.
More variety and candy.
We had cops, the TV show.
Cards.
But then you put cops on a graphic and some...
What, you got a problem with cops? No, but some people do.
Go back to blue? Sounds like you have a problem with cops.
I do not have a problem with cops. I back to blue.
If liking the cops is payed or anything, that's fine.
Some people do. Sounds like you got a problem.
Christ in Cops, that's what we're about over here.
Yep. You just said the same thing about carbs.
What? The argument you are making is the same argument you just made about carbs.
Some people will look at carbs on a graphic and be like, oh, carbs.
But you like carbs.
That is incorrect.
Who doesn't like that?
Kind of got me cornered on that one.
That was the quickest I've ever thought on my feet.
Literally ever.
Yeah.
I'm proud of you.
Chargers.
You fucking submitted me fast.
I was about to spiral and then for some reason I clicked.
Is Max evolving?
Cars.
Cars.
Cars is great.
Cars in general.
Cars.
Cars and movie.
Cars and movie.
Well, you put it on the graphic.
It's both.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, no.
Cars and movie is cars, I think, with an exclamation point.
But you could also be very excited about cars. True, true, true.
I believe I I'm not a hundred percent sure. Let me see. I don't know.
Maybe I made that up in my head. Uh, what songs
I like to say croissants.
We said cheese, right? Yep. Yeah.
She's not cars. The movie is not exclamation point.
I thought it was for some reason.
A lot of good, a lot of good things out there.
We're gonna see.
Creeping somebody out when you're staring at them
and they notice you stare at them.
That's a good one.
That would have been a good one.
Yeah, that would be a good one.
That's a good one.
Connor.
Great name.
Charizard.
Oh yeah, Charizard.
Charmander.
Charmeleon. How Charizard. Charmander?
Charmeleon? How would you take Charmander when Charizard's on board?
I honestly don't know the difference.
You don't get Charizard without Charmander.
Charmander is the first stage.
So you hate kids?
So you hate kids?
You can't have Charizard without a Charmander.
But that Charizard is the most evolutionized form.
Yeah, but Charmander gets you there.
Charmander gets you there.
Yeah, but Charizard is the most valuable of all Pokemon
You gotta respect the journey though. You do have to respect the journey
You have that's fair point crabs crabs is good eating ones, but then you know about that, but then it's like crabs on a graphic
What does that mean?
What does that mean? What does crab legs? Maybe that would have been?
Crab cakes crab feast. I love crab cakes are delicious.
Crab cakes, crab, crawfish.
Yep. Crawfish are good.
Yeah, so good.
Chicken. China.
I thought about Canada.
No.
Shout out our Canadians.
I don't think he's the least.
No, I, yeah, but I like Canada.
Yeah, it's fine.
Could you put another country on Mount Rushmore though?
No, probably not. Yeah.oslovakia Chinese food. Oh
That is a big mess. Yep
Chinese food is a great call that could have easily been a pick. Yeah shit fuck
charcuterie
Yeah, who's good?
Champagne what were some of the other ones fuck?
championship
championship
ships fuck I just completely forgot about that the last whatever Yeah. Champagne. What were some of the other ones? Oh, fuck. Championships. Championships.
Fuck, I just completely forgot about that in the last, whatever.
Championships.
Yeah.
And the worst part about Mount Rushmore season is that we've listed 200 C words and we will
still have, like, the first thing I'll see when I wake up tomorrow is someone saying
something and me being like, how am I so stupid?
Like the M words, Monday football, we forgot.
And I felt like the dumbest person in the world. All right.
Here's the rest of Zach's list real quick.
You can just jump in any time to explain it. Okay. Catch. Yep.
That place. Carmelo Anthony. Yep. Sure. An interesting one.
Well player of all time. I agree. He was mocking you.
No, I wasn't mocking you.
I was just saying you're you're stat.
Yeah.
Cruises.
No, I disagree.
He brain dumped.
That's fine.
We're not going to judge.
Combines.
Great pick.
I can't believe you.
That's fun.
Yeah.
Chats.
Cinema should have been sitting movies are great. Cre. Great pack. Oh, I can't believe you. Chat's fun. Yeah, chat's. Cinema.
We should have been sitting next to each other.
Movies are great.
Crepes, spelled incorrectly.
Tough look.
Like grapes with a C?
Yeah, I like exactly.
Chats.
Countdowns.
I see the women.
What's countdowns?
Countdowns are good, just like 10, nine, eight, seven.
Builds a suspense.
It does, yeah.
We fucking missed countdown countdown, dude.
Right.
How do we guys do that?
New Year's Eve is a great time.
That's gonna be the number one thing that people are pissed off about tomorrow.
Fuckin' Galeff countdown's off.
Oh, all right.
Coolers.
Cows.
Coolers is good.
Coolers is good.
Coolers.
I was thinking cold beer, but that's kinda...
Is that...
Would that have counted?
Nah.
I feel like that's a little too...
That's an adjective. You can't use that have counted? Nah, I feel like that's a little too, you're, that's an adjective.
You can't use that.
Yeah.
Right.
Country music.
Cola.
Cola.
Yeah.
Um, all right.
Good job guys.
Let's, uh, let's get to our interview.
We've got a great interview with Rob Mack, AKA Rob McElhaney from Always
Sunny and then our good friend, Marty fish, who hopefully he's going to win.
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okay we now welcome on a very very very, very special guest. It is Rob Mack, which is that
official? Should we start? Rob from Always Sunny Rob Mack officially changed his name.
What's the is there a viral ad behind this? What's going on?
No, there's no viral ad. I mean, there is a there is a very brief under 60 second explanation.
I would love to hear it on online. That's easy to see.
But I can keep it quick for you guys.
It's just a lifetime of mispronunciations, misspellings, misunderstandings, which is
not that big of a deal.
And for years I was asked, especially when I first started, would I consider shortening
my name or changing my name?
A lot of people, in fact a lot of people
you're not even aware of have changed their name
when they get into my business.
And I was always very proud of my name and said,
no, you know, like that's my family name
and I've had it for generations
and I don't want to change it.
And this year I did a full like ancestry family tree
and found out that my name has changed like seven times.
Oh, okay.
Including when they got here at immigration at Ellis Island
and they just changed the name completely
and they were like, no, this is what the name is.
And then there was other sects of my massive
Irish Catholic family that started spelling it
in all sorts of different ways.
So I decided, you know what, fuck it.
I'm just gonna do it right now.
Yeah, now you got a whole new one.
And now it's so simple, R-O-B-M-A-C, the end.
Yeah, that's easy.
Do you feel different?
I gotta be honest with you, I do.
Yeah.
I didn't think that I would, and it's something lighter.
It's, I mean, again, it's really,
and I addressed this in this stupid little video I made,
there's so much going on in the world,
and this is such a stupid little thing,
but to even like spend your time thinking about,
but you know, when you're walking around,
and you walk into a hotel, for example,
and you say hi, and they say name, sir,
and you say McElhenny, and they look up with confusion,
and they should, because it's ridiculously long
in so many syllables, and then you try to explain
why it's not M-A-C, why is it M-C, and then is there a space,
I've been stopped at airports for 40 years
where there's a space where there shouldn't have been
a space, there's a missing vowel,
and I just decided R-O-B-M-A-C.
So if your name's long like that,
I have a long last name as well,
but it just becomes something where you say Mac-Lenny
and you immediately start spelling it for him.
Exactly.
And off the bat, right?
And even there you just mispronounced it
and it's not your fault.
Yeah.
Because he was actually doing the third generation.
Thank you.
Yeah, fair enough.
Sorry for dead naming.
Yeah.
Thank you, yes.
Yeah, believe me, I'm gonna spend a lot of time
calling people out for dead naming.
Shame, yes, you have to.
Oh, almost immediately.
Wait, but so when you decided to do this,
were you, was it always gonna be Mack
or were you like, maybe I'll upgrade like Rob Powers or something?
Rob Sharp.
I wanted to make it as...
This is like your five-year-old self be like,
what do I want to be?
I made this mistake in high school.
My sophomore year, we had this wonderful teacher
and she made the mistake of saying to 16-year-old boys,
if you have a nickname that you go by, you tell me that
and I'll call you that for the rest of the year.
And I was being a piece of shit and I said,
my nickname is Blade.
And she heard for some reason, Blaze.
And I said, but then I freaked out and she said Blaze?
And I said, yes.
So then she called me Blaze for half the year,
except she spelled it BLAISE,
not BLAZE.
That sounds like a little girl in Nashville.
Yeah, it seems like Blase.
Yeah, you don't want that.
And then she noticed that all of my friends
were calling me Rob, so she caught one of that.
And so I figured I'd just go keep it simple,
Rob Mack, R-O-B-M-S-E.
Were you surprised that some people were mad about it?
I saw the video and I was just like, oh cool
He's Rob Mack now like who cares people hate change. Yeah
I think see the comments and some people like what are you doing? It's like, what do you care? Yeah
I figured there would be some
Some blowback and again it people everybody's got an opinion about something, you know
And and and at the end of the day, I assume that most people would say the same thing
Which is it's your name who cares? and at the end of the day, I assume that most people would say the same thing, which is
it's your name, who cares?
You should change it every year just to see, can we get the dumbest controversy going?
How can we upset as many people as possible?
How can I really make it a giant narcissistic?
It really is just to simplify things and to be able to walk into a room and say, RBMAC.
I appreciate it because we scheduled this interview
like probably two months ago,
and I think at the moment that we scheduled it,
I was like, all right, I gotta figure out
how to say his last name.
And then this happened a week ago,
and I was like, fuck, awesome, Rob Mack.
Yeah, it was always misspelled,
and I was always correcting people,
but only in official capacities,
because sometimes you can't get on a plane,
or you can't check in somewhere.
And then people would apologize, and I would always say,
it's not your fault, it is a ridiculously long name
and hidden vowels and whatnot.
And so it was always like a 30 second longer exchange
than anything had to do.
And you guys also have nicknames as well, right?
So it's a stage name.
Your life is so much more efficient now.
Did you think about going to MACK as opposed to MAC?
Totally fair question.
I really appreciate it.
I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
I just wanted just, because then the silent K,
yeah, actually, would maybe potentially add
a little bit more confusion.
That's fair.
Okay, well, yeah, it's good to have you here.
How's the golf game looking?
I mean, I'm so sorry,
because I'm sure you guys have just
been talking about this all day.
But how can we be talking about my name or golf?
How can we be talking about anything
when the video of that man on the golf course?
Yeah.
I mean, the best.
It's so satisfying.
The best.
The bang, bang, bang.
And I don't know what it is about my,
what this says about me, but my feed on all of my social, all of my socials, the O's almost as if I turned my phone on
and it got pushed to me. You know, you guys got pushed to me.
Like that video got pushed to me on every single channel I have.
And it is just glorious content.
It's not only the fact that the it's an ex NHL enforcer,
just kicking the shit out of a guy who is being like way too aggressive
But there's just something about like guys on a golf course in polos fighting that just it does it for me
I maybe it's like a new UFC we could get like they do the slap. Maybe it's just golfers fighting
It's a they shouldn't be fighting, you know
It's like a very prestigious game and yeah enters and everything and then they're just throwing each other into lakes
you see it from time you see it from time to time but
Usually there's enough distance between people who are like upset with each other the time they close the distance
They're they're either cooler heads have prevailed but most likely one guy saw the other guy and was like nah not today
Yeah in this case that didn't happen. Yeah
Drunkie McJunkstein did solve this six foot,
I actually don't know how big the hockey player.
He's a big guy.
He's especially big.
I could tell based on the accents.
As soon as I open it and I hear the guy's accent,
I'm like, oh, he's Canadian,
and he sounds like every hockey player I know.
And that's the way, not just their accent,
but the way he's not necessarily deescalating,
but he's also not escalating it.
He's saying, hey man, like, just keep moving, keep moving.
And then eventually the guy calls him,
starts running towards him,
and all he does is throw him in the lake.
He says, I'm gonna throw you in the lake,
and he throws him in the lake.
Yeah, you're right.
It wasn't a deescalation, it was just a calm like,
hey, I'm going to beat the fuck out of you
and keep going.
Yeah, I don't remember who it was in the video
who says, you're not scaring anybody.
I think it was either the guy's friend who was filming
or it was actually the hockey player.
But either way, the calmness with which that was delivered.
You're not scaring anyone.
It's also never a good sign when the guy
who's delivering the beating keeps saying, like, enough.
Yes.
He's like, enough.
You've had enough.
There is a moment at which the buddy comes in to maybe step
in, and you see that the hockey player grabs him,
and he could have given him a bang.
And he chooses not to in a split second,
and just kind of pushes him away.
And that kind of temperance.
That's a noble piece.
He also fought him like a hockey player.
He grabbed him by the shirt and like held him. I feel like the
punches were targeted. He's like hitting him on the side of the
head just like he used to do back in the lead and calling his
own shots of a throwing him in the river and then bang, bang,
bang is amazing. And you guys know enough hockey players and
to me, hockey players are some of my favorite athletes,
especially to hang out with him to play golf. Yes. And I don't know a lot of UFC fighters that play golf,
but I have a lot of who are friends.
And they are the funnest people to hang out with
because they're the most chill.
They're so fun.
Canadian hockey players, and again,
this is such a broad statement,
but they tend to be either from Canada
or from the Midwest and from the North. and they're just sweet people yeah kind people until
they're not. I give you the business. They got a bang. Yes yeah and they got a bang.
I think what it is about golf videos because it for me it's the same way with
airport fight videos. I like watching those too and the common space they
share is you're probably not gonna see a gun pulled out. Yeah right it's like if
you're on a golf course the the guy's probably unarmed.
You don't have to worry about watching a video
and it turns into just like a snuff film
that gets cost and down with them.
In the airport, you're through security already.
So it's like, all right, just boys will be boys.
Square up.
I'm trying to think.
The only other thing that goes up for it
for like golf fight videos is when you get like the dudes
on bikes, like the Lance Armstrongs in like the tight,
the tight jerseys, when they fight, that's fun.
Start kicking.
Cause you just look ridiculous if you fight in that.
I've always wondered when you see like NASCAR drivers go at
and because they're wearing helmets,
they're still willing to throw down,
hit a guy in his helmet.
But again, I know that we, I know that I could speak
for myself, I like to believe I'm someone someone but my algorithm tells me exactly who I am
So when I go to open up, you know
Whatever it is Instagram or something and I look and I go to search and it says like this is what you want
I'm like no it no, it's not
We love it, I don't know why I like to watch people fight I I just do I don't know what it may I this an
Instinctual thing when I pull up my it may, it's an instinctual thing.
When I pull up my Instagram algorithm,
it's usually just like big tits and like cheeseburgers.
I'm like, they got me.
They figured me out.
They got it.
I got boobs and puppies right now.
Yeah.
Those are my two.
Yeah.
Yeah, they got it.
Pretty good.
Yeah, they got it.
But seriously, how is the golf game going?
It's going OK.
I have a very low bar.
Last year was my first, I think it was the first tournament I've ever played in or I've never played in any of these like official programs. And so last year was my first time. There were 90 participants. I came in 81st.
Well, as long as you beat Charles Barkley, that's fine.
I didn't.
Oh, I didn't. I didn't.
Oh, that's your caddy over there saying this year. Yeah, that's caddy. I brought an actual caddy.
Last year, I brought one of my employees, Brian,
who is a great, sorry, Brian, he's just side.
He's my chief of staff, but he's not a caddy.
Now I have an official caddy.
A real caddy.
Who I work with in Los Angeles.
This is the year I beat Barkley, for Christ's sake.
Yeah, does that put a little more pressure on you,
though, bringing a real caddy?
It's like the guy in men's league softball
wearing batting gloves.
Yeah.
If you don't perform, you have a real caddy with you.
I think part of my problem last year
was that I didn't feel the pressure.
It was just fun.
And I just got hammered and was like, ah, who cares?
And then you start to care when you're negative 16, 17,
and I'm watching that and it's the opposite.
Usually you want to be below par.
This is the stable for point system.
So I think I finished with negative 36 points.
That's not, that's beatable.
So I have that going for me.
Yeah.
Have you told somebody that you shot minus 36 and then not clarified
afterwards. Yeah. I, I told my wife hoping that she would take
the bait and she didn't give a fuck either way. She just
didn't care. She never changed it. So she was always, she
always is she should change it to McElhaney. Well, on her,
some of her official documents, I guess it's all, I felt really
bad for her. It's Olson McElhenny.
Okay.
And she wanted that because she wanted to have the same
name as her children.
So my kids now are McElhenny.
Oh.
It's up to them.
Oh.
It's up to them.
Quite a pickle.
It's their choice.
Yeah, it's a bit of a pickle.
But they're 15 and 13.
Again, they don't give a shit.
Yeah.
I heard that you're getting into business with a Mexican soccer team now.
I am in business.
NACACSA, right?
Yes.
So I don't know if he still is working around the team.
We know a guy, Sam Porter, that was...
Oh, yeah.
You know Sam?
I know Sam very well.
Yeah.
So he sent me like a box of NACACSA stuff like three years ago.
I like the logo.
That's my limited knowledge behind the team.
It's beautiful.
Well, we have a television series that's going to be debuting in about a month
It's in Spanish
But you can't read right? I can read right you can read. There's subtitles. I writing we're writing a book. Yeah. Yeah, okay
That's actually you don't know what you can read and write. Yeah. Yeah, great ghostwriter though
All right, so it'll be subtitled but it it's the vast majority of it is in Spanish. I do my best
Ryan doesn't speak any any Spanish. I speak a little bit enough
But it is about our journey with Nacoxa and Eva Longoria
So in in the this obviously spurned on from Rexim and what you guys have done with that where you guys you guys are in
The second league now you're right. Yeah, you're in championship, right? Yeah
it's pretty like Where you guys are in the second league now? You're right. Yeah, we're in championship right now. Yeah. Hello, Premier League.
It's pretty like, that doesn't really happen.
Have you had a moment to step back and be like,
you know when you buy an investment like that,
and it's going to be a fun story,
and you make a documentary, this could be really cool.
You guys are just skyrocketed.
Yes, it's been wild.
I mean, it's never happened before
in the history of English football.
No team has ever gone back to back to back. Yeah. And that's what we did this past year. It's never happened before in the history of English football. No team has ever gone back to back to back.
Yeah.
And that's what we did this past year.
It's crazy.
And so each year we get told, OK, well, now's
the year where you slow down, you consolidate,
you invest in other areas.
And each year we say no.
We go all in and bet on the coach and the team.
And it's worked out this far.
You guys are doing ownership right.
Like, I would imagine the fans love this
because it's revived this franchise.
I spent a lot of time in the very beginning
talking to a few owners who I'm friends with,
Jeffrey Lurie, who owns the Eagles, just to ask him.
But most importantly, I spoke to all my friends
who are either pro athletes or ex-pro athletes to ask them what kind of
relationship
They would want to have with the owners if at all
and so I did my research and and
You know, it's kind of great that we don't know anything about
Football I'll call it soccer because this is yeah, please do so or waste we don't know we don't we I don't we don't know anything
About soccer we don't know anything about professional sports,
to be honest with you, other than I like watching it.
So we can't, there's no reason for us
to be in the locker room.
There's no reason for us to be talking about strategy.
We can just be friends with the players and the families,
and then we just invest in the manager
and in the executives to make sure
that they're all making the right decisions,
and then we're just fans.
Yeah. So it's kind of a perfect,
it's kind of a perfect situation because we're not involved in any football
operations. We're not involved in any of their deal making.
We approve the budget, but at the end of the day, um, you know,
if a player isn't moving on with us, that's not my call.
So it allows us to become really good friends with players. Yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome. So, I it allows us to become really good friends with players. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.
I mean, you should coach at some point.
Just because that I feel like every owner,
like when everyone says Jerry Jones is too hands on,
it's like, no, he's not hands on enough.
Like I would want him.
I'd call some plays if I.
I love it when he does a press conference.
It's like real.
I love to watch Jerry Jones put on the headset.
Yeah.
But you know what?
It's your team.
Go out and play, man.
Yeah, why not?
You can do whatever you want. headset. Yeah. But you know what? It's your team. Why not play? Go out and play, man. Yeah, why not? You can do whatever you want.
Great.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I'm very, very, very respectful of the fact
that I cannot.
It's amazing how many owners or executives
you see think that they're the ones that are doing it.
Oh, yeah.
We ain't doing it.
Especially new owners.
That's where you guys deserve a ton of credit.
Because you see it a lot in sports, where a new owner will
buy a team, and they'll be like, well, I was very successful
in my line of work, usually business.
I'm just going to do that here.
And then it all blows up.
Yeah.
But you can focus on the things that you
know how to do really well.
So working with Ryan, who's a master marketer,
we knew that we could tell the story well.
So I focused on making the documentary,
which is a huge part of it.
Ryan is a massive star all over the world.
I mean, he just basically poured gasoline on the entire,
rocket fuel, I should say, on the entire thing.
And everybody kind of does what they can do best.
And that's the way we kind of look at all of our businesses,
but very specifically sports, where you see,
I will say though, however,
look at the commanders this year, right?
Like a new owner, new ownership comes in
and he was able, or that group was able,
they were able to change the culture.
And they made a couple of key moves
and then put everything in place,
let everybody do their job, and look what happened.
Yeah.
It was awesome, it was great.
I'm a commanders fan, so everything that's happened
in the last two years has felt like I died
and went to heaven.
Yeah.
Because Dan Snyder was the epitome
of the example of the bad owner.
The guy that would like meddle with everything.
Me and Big Cat, we actually, we own a Mexican football team,
the Monterey Osos.
And a lacrosse team.
We're so hands off, we didn't even know that we bought it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we thought we had a press release. We're so hands off. We didn't know that we bought it.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
We had a press release.
We're like, whoops.
Yeah. How they doing?
Actually, they're in the Super Bowl this week.
Yeah. In the Super Bowl.
We got to talk about that.
We actually have to sign our shares.
Yeah. Yeah.
I knew that.
Yeah. And how much how much cash can we say?
Can we tell the audience?
I don't even know.
We have to decide that as much as we want.
I actually I invested in Swan Swansea probably three or four years
before you guys bought Rexam, and that didn't go well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I just got blamed on message boards
because I invested like $20,000.
It was nothing.
And every time they would lose, they'd be like,
you got all the baddies.
Liverpool has LeBron, and we got a fat blogger.
And it's like, whoops.
Yeah. I've seen a lot of people
go into investment groups because the ownership is really fun.
Yeah, it is.
But at the end of the day, the values
of some of those clubs in soccer,
but like in the NFL, for example,
you can't buy a meaningful stake in one of those clubs
for less than $6, $7 billion, the commander's sold for.
And so it's hard.
Who has that money?
I don't know.
But that's what's so great about the English system is that you can buy a team that's in
the fifth division, keep investing in them, and they keep performing, then you're one
year away from the Premier League.
So was it more time than you thought it would be in terms of investing, how much energy,
how much time you're going to have to put into owning this team?
It's it's happened so fast
to get to this point
The the questions that we've been having are like is it responsible how quickly we're moving You know is it you scale a business that that fast if you don't have the right personnel in place if you don't have the right
Infrastructure, right? You know, it's it's boring, but it's not sexy to talk about.
It's like drafting a left tackle.
It's like probably one of the most offensive linemen.
I mean, one of the most important decisions
that you can make as a club,
and yet the fans want a quarterback,
they want a receiver, they want,
but at the end of the day,
that left tackle might be the most important,
the centerpiece of your entire organization at some point.
So making those sort of like unsexy decisions has been tough
because my job as the documentarian is to tell a fun story
and no one wants to watch a story
about infrastructure building.
It's just fucking boring.
But the people that you hire, when you get started,
they might be the perfect people for that role,
but then you move up twice and now that's not the,
like if you were to start from that position,
you wouldn't hire that guy to be in that role.
I'll go even further.
This is where it becomes really heartbreaking.
The players oftentimes will play themselves out of a job.
So in great success in League Two or League One,
and this happened with a few of our players.
They gave their hearts and their souls and their effort and helped us get promoted.
And for that, the club, us, the town are eternally grateful.
But what winds up happening is you go up a league and maybe they're 36, 37 years old,
sometimes even 34, 35, and you need somebody who's 21 or 22.
And if you theoretically stay down in that league, they might still have a try.
And to ask young men to do that is it's a part of the gig and they accept that but it
still doesn't it doesn't make it easy.
It's not fun.
It's not fun.
Yeah.
And I found out one of my favorite players was released from the team this year and
I found out via Twitter.
And I was just as shocked as he was and it was his statement and the manager hadn't told
us yet.
He talked to the player, which is what he should have done.
The player talked to his teammates and then put out a statement, which is his right to
do.
And I was, my heart was broken and I did not see it coming.
Yeah.
Yeah. By the way, I should note,
some people do like to watch infrastructure being built. Zach,
who took your gum earlier, he watches guys do concrete pores,
like five hour videos of it. So if you ever want to do that,
if you build a new,
find that relaxing. Yeah, he likes it very relaxing. Yes, sir.
Is what he said to it. Do you get up here, Zach? Yeah, Zach. Yeah.
And it's actually like pouring in like concrete into molds or is it like mixing and you fall asleep to it? Do you? Get up here, Zach. Yeah, Zach. Yeah, yeah.
And it's actually like pouring concrete into molds?
Or is it like mixing quick crete?
What are you talking about here?
I got a crew out in Wisconsin, Victory Outdoor Services.
They don't mix concrete, comes in on trucks, they pour it.
So they set the forms, like pour driveways, parking lots,
things like that.
Okay, and you're watching five hours of that?
Each video is usually like an hour or two, yeah.
Are we building like, what kind of structures
are we building?
Casons, is it like foundational work?
What are we?
A lot of driveways, like.
Driveways?
Yeah, a lot of like neighborhood driveways
or sidewalks as well, back patios.
I can see that.
Yeah, I can see how that would be.
So there's an audience there for it.
Do you watch it dry too?
No, no, no.
They'll come back and spray with the sealer the next day
so you'll get an update on the pour.
Okay.
But he said no as if that was the crazy.
Yeah, like you're an idiot.
Yeah, like what are you talking about?
Why would you watch it dry?
Like God no.
You just, you gotta watch it pour.
Yeah.
Well we are building a stadium.
All right, so he'll watch.
If you wanna just set up a GoPro and he'll watch that.
It's actually, that would be a fun storyline. Here's a guy, here's a stadium being built, here's a guy watching only because he likes
to watch the concrete.
Yeah.
When you were talking to, uh, to Jeffrey Lurie, did he say you have to get a Big Dom?
Oh, Big Dom is one of my favorite people.
Same.
He's the best.
On earth.
And we, um, I went to the, this was actually not the season, but last season we went to
the Eagles Rams game.
And we, at the end of the game, Dom,
we're in one of the boxes on the field,
Dom comes over and he didn't even know it was my son,
it was just a bunch of kids.
He brought over one of the game balls
and gave it to the kids and my son took it home.
It's like his prize possession.
Yeah. They did that exact same thing to Max.
Yeah, Max.
He's 30.
Wow.
They're just picking out the that that really needs a lift.
Listen, we were when Big Dom, when the whole thing happened with the Niners, we were like
actually very upset because Max was like, oh yeah, that's Big Dom.
Like you've been keeping Big Dom from us.
Why didn't you tell us about Big Dom?
He's the best.
Heart and soul of the Philadelphia Eagles.
It's really fascinating to see the dynamics.
I just went back to play in the charity event
that they do, that the Eagles do,
and one of the great perks of doing what I do for a living
is getting to do those kinds of things
and be invited to Mary and golf course
to play with the Eagles.
So just to see the dynamics and how it all works,
because I'm just used to watching them on Sunday
and to see how Jeffrey and then, of course,
Howie Roseman, the greatest GM in all of sports,
navigate their relationship with the players.
Because it's tricky.
Like, you want to be as close to them as you possibly can.
But you could see, you know, when Howie walks into a room,
like everybody kind of like sits up a little bit.
Yeah.
And in fact, while I was getting food at the buffet,
and Jalen says, hey, do you want to sit over there?
I want to ask you a couple of things.
I said, sure.
So I go over and I'm just sitting there in a big table
eating with Jaylen Hertz.
And Jaylen's asking me a bunch of questions about business.
And no one's sitting with us.
And I'm wondering why no one's sitting with us.
But I figured, oh, that's cool.
Talking to Jaylen Hertz is great.
So we talked for like 45 minutes and then dinner was over.
And later that night, I got a text from Jake Elliott,
who I'm very good friends with.
He's the kicker for the Eagles.
And he said, I didn't see you.
I was like, where were you?
I didn't see you.
He goes, well, I saw you talking with Jalen
and just figured I should stay out of that conversation.
I'm like, what?
That's a good kicker.
Why?
That's a good kicker.
I feel like he was like, look, QB1 has decided he's sitting with you and talking and like he, Jake finds his own space. Yes. I'm like, wow, that's real. Yeah, that's a real. Yeah, that's absolutely. And it wasn't out of deference or fear. It was just out of respect. Yeah. What QB1 is doing. Yeah. Jake's got his thing that he's going to go do. And they're all friends. Yeah. It's like watching a nature show, like the hierarchy in real life.
And it's so natural to a good team.
Yes, and you know your boundaries.
And you're on the same team.
Right.
You're literally there for a charity event.
But you're there with the owner and the GM and the head
coach and all the players who are,
you know they're coming back from minicamp.
But you see how it all, I don't know.
It's, of course, it's one big happy family,
but it's still a profession and they treat it as something.
Yeah, always sunny.
17 seasons, you're on your 17th season right now.
I mean, that's not done in show business.
Is there a moment where you're like,
how are we just gonna keep going,
are we gonna break all the records?
Because it's incredible, it's a credit to you guys
to be able to do something, keep it that funny for that long,
that people keep loving it.
Thank you.
I think that this season that's coming out today
or tomorrow is the funniest season,
maybe the funniest season we've ever done.
That's a pretty high bar.
Definitely the funniest of the last decade.
And Charlie and I both agreed,
we were sitting in the editing room
watching episode, I don't know, six or seven.
And we were like, wow, this is probably the funniest season that we've ever done.
And I think it's just because we, I value people's time beyond anything else.
Like the one commodity that we can't buy more of or get more of.
People live tough lives.
I know that Sunny, for some people is just
something that they can sit at home and make some laugh when they've come home from a tough
day or they've got something brutal going on in their lives and they could just watch
a bunch of terrible people be terrible people and it makes them laugh. So I take that very
seriously and for as silly and ridiculous as the show is, the work that we put into
it comes out of respect for people's time.
I feel like if people are going to show up for us week after week, year after year, generation
after generation, then at the very least, I owe them the time to put into it to make
it to be the best that I can make it.
Can I ask you a question about the upcoming season
and you have to tell me and be truthful with your answer.
Mm-hmm.
Ryan Reynolds, is he in it?
No.
Was that truthful?
Oh, he did.
That's truthful.
Was that truthful?
Because there was a whole like, is he going to be your boyfriend
thing that you guys fought around a little bit?
No.
No, he's not.
He's not.
He cut me out of Deadpool.
He's, he's.
Yeah.
I'll keep him in the documentary.
Yeah.
OK. That's that and the Knoxville one. What? Anything. He's not, he's not. He cut me out of Deadpool. He's, he's, I'll keep him in the documentary. But that's that.
And you know, the knock on the Cox one.
He's my fan.
You can edit them out of whatever you want.
Yeah.
When you guys are sitting there though,
editing season 17, you're like, this is the best season.
Do you, do you take a moment and sit back and be like,
what's the story?
You, you, the first, the pilot,
you went to like a Best Buy and got like a camcorder.
Cause that's before cell phones that had that had video like 200 bucks and I got up. Yeah, we got best
I got a Best Buy card that I couldn't and I bought a camera. I couldn't afford
And we actually bought two of them so we could cross shoot them much like this. Yeah, and
What's wild is?
That those cameras we shot on VHS.
So there's still, our original home movie is on VHS.
That's amazing.
And then you went out and pitched it
and you actually had like a pretty good success
of like people wanting it, right?
Yeah, we made the first one,
but we made the first one and it wasn't good enough.
So we did it again.
And then we kept going,
made like three or four iterations of it until finally we were like, okay, so we did it again. And then we kept going, made like three or four iterations
of it until finally we were like,
okay, maybe this is pretty good.
But I knew that if we were gonna take it out,
I was a waiter at the time, so, and working in a,
and prior to that, I was a bar back in a bar.
So I wanted to entrust, I wanted them to entrust me
with running this television series, I was 26.
And so I thought we should make a second episode because that'll prove
that it's not just one fluke.
Yeah.
So we made a second episode that turned out pretty great from our perspective.
We then took it out to the, to the town and, um,
almost everybody made us an offer because we could keep it cheap. Uh, and it was,
um, it was something different.
I mean, that in itself is kind of unheard of,
that everyone made you an offer.
And then your decision to go with FX, I love that story,
because you knew, you had the foresight to be like,
they're going to give us the space creatively
to go to places that maybe not everyone else does.
Whereas a lot of people would just, in your position,
26, waiting, giving me the most money.
Yeah, there was an inflection point
where we had offers and when we got the offers,
and this is also a benefit of having multiple offers,
we went back with, we have one demand.
And that demand was that I would be the show runner,
that Glenn and Charlie would be executive producers,
we would direct the episodes, write the episodes.
Because we didn't want to bring in,
it happens all the time where they say,
oh, okay, these kids made something,
now let's bring in an adult or a professional.
And everybody said, oh, sorry, pass, except FX.
John Landgraf, who runs that place and still does, said,
okay.
But do you guys having that ability to be like, hey, this is
what we have to do.
I think that's just very rare.
I think a lot of people especially hungry trying to get into
the business there.
They'll just take whatever offers given to them and then find
out the hard way that things change when you when you start
getting up to the big leagues.
Yeah, you know, you just we just had a belief in ourselves that
we could execute and that we you we, to be honest with you,
we didn't want to bring in Danny in season two.
Really?
No, no, our knee-jerk reaction was,
not that we had anything against Danny,
Danny's an icon and hilarious,
but he was a movie star.
And we thought, well, if we bring in a movie star,
they could screw up the dynamic
and we feel like we've got a pretty good thing going. then Landgraf said okay well you have a choice you can
either bring in a star or you cannot do the show and we were like let's do
option A yeah yeah and then it just so happened it's like we hit the lottery
again because Danny was incredible and like slipped right into what we were trying to do.
He is, when people are like, what's Danny really like?
I say, okay, picture Danny DeVito in your head.
That's what he's like.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And some people, they ain't who they putting out in the world.
He is.
Wait, so how quickly were you like, this works with Danny?
Knowing that it was a little bit forced on you, But was there a moment, like even the first time
or the second episode where you're like,
oh, this is gonna be awesome?
It actually happened when he, as part of his contract,
he said, okay, I'll do it, but you only get me for two weeks
to shoot an entire season of the show.
Well, we shoot really fast,
but only having two weeks is not a lot, which means we had to front load all of his stuff in the show. We shoot really fast, but only having two weeks is not a lot,
which means we had to front load all of his stuff
in the beginning.
And he was taking a risk on us, and we said,
okay, fine, great.
So we got about halfway through the first week,
about Wednesday, and he could see that we were really jammin',
but he was having so much fun.
And he pulled me aside and he goes,
I'll give you as much time as you need.
Oh, that's awesome. So we then kept him for another we want to still be respectful
I think we only took another week or something like that or two weeks and
And there was that moment and then and then subsequent to that there was a time in which you know, maybe
episode three or four
He walks in and there was a bunch of space that we didn't
realize was there and I said, okay, when you come in, you'll just have some space before
you get to the next line, so just say whatever you want.
And he said, what should I say?
And I said, Danny DeVito, man, I want you to say whatever you want to say.
And he said, here, come in for a second.
I said, what? you want to say and he said here come in for a second so what he pulls me aside and he's like I'm here because I'm old and you're young and you know what's
funny and what I think is funny is what my generation thought was funny but I
want to speak to your generation so you tell me what to say and I'm gonna say it
to the best of my ability and so I did I wrote something he said it he walked in
and that was that.
But not only did that help with the chemistry of our show, it taught me a very important
lesson that I take with me to this day, which is to always, always be listening to the next
generation or the next generation after that, because they're the ones that are dictating
what the culture is.
Yeah, why we listen to Zach. That's what we're going to do. Yeah, yeah.
That's nice stuff.
We're transitioning to pouring concrete.
Yeah, yeah.
That's our podcast now.
We had Danny on the show, I think it was like four or five years ago, maybe.
He told a great story about you guys and the April Fools joke that you played.
Oh, yeah.
Where you're like, everybody on the show fucked him in the ass.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then he got to the last page and it said, April Fools.
Yeah.
Now, was he into the script?
Like after three, four pages?
Did he like top rig it?
As he tells the story, I mean, we wrote,
it was actually us and the Churnin brothers
who have worked with us and for us for years.
And they also created my wife's other show called The Mick.
And they're just like crazy funny guys.
And we had an idea, but you know,
you don't have a lot of time in the writer's room,
but April Fools was coming up
and Danny had done a few pranks,
pulled a few pranks on us and we thought,
how can we outdo him?
And we pitched it to the guys
and the guys sent us back a draft
and Charlie and I then took a pass
and went really hardcore.
But we were like, for it to work,
he's got to believe that it's a real script.
So like, let's make our storyline as real and as funny as we possibly can be so he believes
that this is true.
And then let's have him sent to prison in the opening scene.
And then every scene after that is him being abused by different groups in the prison.
And each one put their own little spin
on how they express themselves in prison.
And Danny's body, Frank's body I should say.
And he said he started like sweating
because he thought the rest of the script was funny and he was like, I don't know what the punchline
is going to be, but man, I don't know if I can do this.
Because he's done everything we've asked him to do.
And finally, yeah, the last line was, fuck you, Ibi.
That's incredible.
You should film that episode for the last show.
That should be in the last season,
whenever that happens to be.
It was brutal, it was graphic.
And you guys are so good.
The fact that you've done 17 seasons
through a lot of culture changes in America
and like how, you know, comedy
and there's all these discussions about it.
But I think what you guys do better than anyone else is,
and you said it to start here,
like all the characters are terrible people,
and that's what makes it work.
You can make fun of anything
when the joke is kind of back at you.
Yeah.
Was that a conscious effort?
Oh yeah, always. It allows us to do these things because at the end of the day, we're not saying these respond to anything when the joke is kind of back at you. Yeah. Was that a conscious effort? Oh, yeah, always.
It allows us to do these things because at the end of the day, we're not saying these
are like good people.
They're bad people.
You shouldn't be rooting for them.
That's right.
Yeah.
We never pander to the audience.
I always assume the best of people and that they'll understand the joke and the satire
and that if you're going to make a show about the worst people on the planet, then they're
going to act accordingly.
And that gives you a tremendous amount of leeway in so many different areas.
And the thing that I find fun is it depends on where I am in the country, because sometimes
someone will come up to me and say, oh, man, I love how you come at the conservatives and
it's such a progressive show. And I'm like, really? Is like I love how you come at the conservatives and it's like such a progressive show.
And I'm like, really, is that what you think it is?
And then then you then I'll go into like a conservative part of the country and people
be like, man, how do you even live in LA when you're like killing the lefties like on your
show?
And I'm like, really, is that what you think it is?
Because that's, that is what we're doing.
We're basically looking at the entirety, the complexity of Western culture, American culture,
and we're satirizing all of it.
And so I believe that the audience, again,
I never pander, I assume that they understand
what we're going for.
And ultimately, number one, we're out to entertain.
Number two, we want to make people laugh.
And number three, we want to get them
to maybe look at hypocrisy from
you know look at however way they look at the world through this very skewed prism and
we have never once taken our foot off the accelerator.
Yeah.
Think about putting a laugh track in ever?
No I mean we we we messed around with it when were, we did like a couple of episodes where we put it in just for fun,
but it wouldn't work, I don't think, on a show like that
because it's so confusing where the laughter is.
Sometimes, you know, people,
you watch it with an audience and it's really fun
because people will laugh at different things.
And sometimes you do something,
you assume the audience is gonna love it and they don't give a shit, And sometimes you do something, you assume the audience is going to love it
and they don't give a shit.
And sometimes you just put something in
and you just kind of forget about it.
And then it's become something iconic for them.
Yeah.
It's also, it's sometimes patronizing to the audience
when you watch a show and there's all this laughter
and you're like, none of this was funny.
Yeah.
Who's laughing at that?
Why is that a joke?
Yeah, it's the same thing to me as I, I, I don't know.
I look, everybody is entitled to their to me as I don't know.
Look, everybody is entitled to their opinion socially, politically, whatever.
I feel like we have a tendency in our industry to need to express ourselves, and again, everybody's
right, but express ourselves outside of our medium.
And I kind of feel like a lot of the rejection from the public is people not saying stay in your lane, they're saying, hey, you have a platform already with
which you can express yourself in every way you want.
And we're willing to check in with you for 22 minutes or an hour or an hour and a half
or three hours or whatever.
So if you've got something to say, say it through that.
I don't necessarily need to see somebody who has that platform already,
then taking to another platform to express themselves.
To me, that seems, again, everybody has the right to do it,
but I would rather do it through the work.
Yeah, all right, we're at the portion of the interview
where I'm gonna ask you a question about things
that you probably have answered a million times,
sick of talking about, but guess what, you're here.
The gaining the 60 pounds, that was incredible.
Although I was a little offended
because we do that every football season, just naturally.
How hard was it?
And also it was genius because I think you even said,
a lot of times the actors will get hotter,
I wanted to get grosser.
But how hard was it to actually gain?
And what was the timeframe for you to gain 60 pounds? The the time frame was three months two and a half months
Yeah, was it a lot of fun? Yeah sort of it was fun in the beginning
and
Then and then it got less and less fun because we were getting closer and closer to production and we had written all these
Scripts that were addressing how large my character got,
and I wasn't putting it on.
You were big enough.
I wasn't big enough.
And there's almost an intervention.
I remember the moment very distinctly
where Charlie and Glenn were like, can we talk to you?
And we have these tense conversations all the time
because we've got a very close relationship,
and we close the door in the office,
and they're like, man, you're not fat enough.
And we're going to shoot the fucking show
in like three weeks, so you better double down.
So that part was like, I was setting alarms
in the middle of the night to wake up and eat.
And just a tip for anybody out there,
cottage cheese is like the worst thing you can eat
right before you go to bed because it metabolizes so slowly in your stomach.
So I was just like hammering cottage cheese and pineapples and blueberries and anything
with sugar in it.
And then I was taking ice cream and weight gainer and I was just melting the ice cream
and then putting weight gainer in I was just melting the ice cream and then putting weight gainer in and
put on, yeah, eventually the first 30 was easy, the last, you know, then the next 20
was brutal and the final 10 was really, really tough.
Did you just feel so gross?
I kind of felt great.
That's awesome.
Like eating all that food felt like shit, but I was also power lifting.
So the problem was that I wasn't,
I was gaining weight just in my gut
and I didn't, it wasn't going anywhere else.
So I went to a trainer and I was like,
I want to look as disgusting as possible.
And he's like, I've literally never heard that before.
But I was like, I want to get a big fat ass
and I want, so I was doing like power lifting.
So I was, it was a weird thing because I was bench pressing
and power lifting at the same time I was also doing all this
weight gainer so I was in terrible shape
because I wasn't allowed, I had to walk slowly up the steps.
The trainer was like, I don't even want you skipping up
the steps, I want you to like never get your heart rate
above whatever.
So I was just doing like the heavy, heavy, heavy bench press
and squatting, so I felt strong as shit.
I mean, I was like.
You're like an Eastern European.
I was crazy strong, crazy strong.
And that, so that felt good.
At any point, my ligament,
I'm sure like my ligaments were ready to,
my liver took a hit and my kidneys were in rough shape.
But other than that,, I felt pretty good.
Apparently, Caitlin says that I snored heavily.
So I had some sleeping issues.
But other than that, I felt great.
Yeah, and look, the point of it was I was watching
in one of the episodes and I decided to use a different take
and even though the take that I had seen was funnier and I caught myself on it, I was like, why do I want to use a different take, and even though the take that I had seen was funnier,
and I caught myself on it, I was like,
why do I want to use a different take?
And I realized it was just like a moment of vanity.
I felt like I didn't like the way I looked in that,
and I was like, put that shit in check.
That is the whole point of this show,
is to make the anti-sitcom.
So the anti-sitcom is never to make a decision
based on vanity. That's when it
sort of started for me where in the off season I thought, okay, that was a scary moment where
I almost made a vain decision. How can I do the opposite? So I pitched to everybody, what
if we all put on 60 pounds? And everybody was like, fuck you. you Danny said yes I don't want to be
responsible for killing so I said okay I'll just I'll just do it I'll just do
it I wanted to make the the I love by the way I love friends I think it's a
great show I've seen every episode I thought it was a really great show but
they had already done that show I wanted to do the opposite yeah I wanted to do
the anti friends and so you watched and friends as they got better and better looking
As the years went on and because they had more money and had better doctors and they had better
diets and I thought these people live in a bar and they
Treat themselves like shit. They would look like they were garbage. Yeah, so that's what I should I love it
I'm happy I asked because I didn't know all of that story I'm like, that's that's incredible. What about when you got shredded? How do you how do you stay funny?
If you're actually like strong and muscular
well, that's that is like the problem like you the the better shape you were in the less funny you are just
Yeah, unless
You you tell your friends in the show
I did this for you and the friends
are like what the fuck are you talking about why and he did it just to like
impress them but they're not impressed by it so ultimately getting getting
ripped is just just as sad and that's what we really try to go for right what
is the saddest version and anybody who like, that's the even though, even though it's as vain as possible, you
then tip over into the other side into into the extreme side
of something. And so even it was like the extreme vanity is what
made it so pathetic. Yeah. Hey, man, we have to have an
intervention. You're not fat enough. You're not bad. No
worse. Do you any steroids? any steroids? I did a bunch of creatine.
Okay.
And then when I got into like really ripped shape,
no, I was still, yeah, I did creatine
and then they had, it was like some kind of like
fucking testosterone boosting supplements.
I like the honesty there.
Cause I do think it's very funny
whenever like an actor gets into crazy shape
in like three months for a role.
It's like, here's what they did.
It's like, well, what about the other stuff?
Yeah.
Well, that's what I also put out a post around the same time.
I was like, this is also like six or seven years ago, but I pointed out how ridiculous
what it took to get into that kind of shape.
That I had a trainer and that I had a studio behind me
that was paying for all of it.
And I had somebody preparing my meals.
And, and so I wanted to make it like abundantly clear that this
is a ridiculous thing to do.
It's a full-time job that I have a studio backing me for, and it's
not a healthy way to live.
Yeah.
You know?
So, so yeah, I mean, mean, I since then stayed in pretty good shape
just because it feels good,
but going back to that is just ludicrous.
Yeah, another question you've probably been asked
a lot about, smoking with Snoop Dogg.
You got high with Snoop Dogg.
Are you going to do it again?
Would you ever do it again?
No, fuck no. I was Snoop Dogg. Are you going to do it again? Would you ever do it again? Never.
No, fuck no.
I was on Mars.
And I don't smoke a ton of weed, even though it's legal in California.
I just, it doesn't have the same effect on me that it seems to have on people.
It just like heightens my anxiety.
But if Snoop asks you to smoke a joint with him, you have to.
You have to.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't turn that down.
So honestly, if he asked me again, I'd probably still say yes. But but yeah, it was fun because I got to hang
out with him. But the whole time I was having a conversation with myself like, buddy, keep
it together. You're still on earth. You're sitting in a car in a giant van with Snoop
watching the Lakers. He likes the Lakers. Just pretend to like the Lakers and go for the ride.
Were you self-conscious about like how you're hitting
the joint?
You're like, is this the right way to take the blunt?
Am I, am I?
I don't think he was paying attention to me,
how I was smoking it at all.
I think he wanted to just see if I could hang.
Yeah.
So I was like, okay, I'll take that challenge.
Yeah.
He probably gets like, he probably gets high off
challenging other people like that.
Like, hey, take a hit to this. He definitely was keeping an eye on
me just to make sure that I didn't like, I don't know, flip out, start taking off
my clothes or some shit. Yeah, but yeah, I finished it. Yeah, yeah. Well,
this has been awesome, Rob. We really appreciate it. I had one last question.
It's a row back question. RHOBACK C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase.
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The city of Philadelphia, your sports fandom. Um,
are you nervous at all if the city of Philadelphia wins too many titles?
Does it change?
Cause like the Eagles now have won two super bowls in in the last whatever it is, six or seven years.
You know, the Phillies have been good, Sixers, who knows?
But like, is there any part of you that like, and would a sports fan works is and why, this
is what Welcome to Wrexham is about.
It's about fandom.
And really what it's about is about community and a community forged in tragedy because
there can be only one at the end of each year and any in every and any sport and so
there's something really beautifully human about that that that we are not forged in triumph
we're forged in tragedy the vast majority of the time your team loses but you're doing it together
and it helps I think the, one of the major reasons
why people hold so desperately onto their fandom
is because they want, it's a way, especially for men,
to communicate to each other that they love each other
and that they want to spend time with each other
and that they can bond with each other
and they have something to talk about.
But ultimately, at the end of the day,
it's a bunch of 25 year olds that you don't know
moving a piece of plastic back and forth
or putting it into a net or putting it, whatever.
And we're putting all of this value onto it.
And I'm myself included, I'm a massive sports fan.
But at the end of the day, that is not what's relevant.
What's relevant is who you're sharing that experience with.
And one of the things that I love watching
is when something good happens on the field
or on the pitch, I love watching what people do.
I love watching fans, and we have cameras everywhere
like shooting everything.
And the first thing that people do is they rise,
they put their hands in the air,
and then they turn to the left,
and then they turn to the right,
and then they look down, and they look behind them,
and they either high five or they hug each other.
And that shows you what it's really about,
which is you get to, you know,
you get 85 years on this planet if you're lucky,
and you get, and the only thing we have
is time spent with each other.
So sports becomes that.
So that's the circuitous way of answering your question.
I think that my biggest fear coming into this year
is going to the Super Bowl, having it be the Eagles,
playing the Buffalo Bills.
It would be devastating.
Yeah.
Because first of all, the entire nation would be rooting for the bills.
Yep.
And Philadelphia as an underdog city, that's a huge part of our identity.
You get cucked.
It's really tough.
Right.
And like, I actually played golf with Josh, Josh Allen last week and he's the nicest
guy.
Yeah.
He's our friend.
Yeah.
He's such a good guy.
He's an incredible player that
that organization deserves to win that town deserves to win and
You know, those are the kind of identity checking moments that are really really tricky. Yeah, but
You still want to win. Yeah, of course still want to win every year. So I don't know
I don't I I hope we win the next five Super Bowls
But I also it seemed to me like all my friends,
all my Patriot friends, like they seem to enjoy it.
Yeah.
The constant.
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a good answer though.
That's a good answer.
But the Bills thing, that is, it would be,
you guys wouldn't have any leg to stand on
as like underdog Philly.
My dream scenario would be that we play the Chiefs again.
Because then I feel like-
Yeah, then people would root for you,
the Eagles again.
Yeah.
I think so.
But you know, if, oh man, I would get killed
if I even said about what I was about to say.
So I'm not gonna say it.
Okay, good job.
I had to stop myself.
Max, our producer right here,
if you had said what you were about to say,
he would have called you a pussy
when you walked out of the room.
I would.
I would. So you did, it's good you could say it.
Yeah, I would love to see.
It's so difficult because I would love to win every Super Bowl, but man, it would be
great to see the city of Detroit win a Super Bowl.
It would be great to see Cleveland, Buffalo, because it feels fucking good, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, thanks, man. This has been awesome. Thank you. Love having you on
Best of luck this weekend and anytime you want to come back on we'd love to have you. Hell. Yeah
Well, look, I'm a fan of you guys and this it's just like you know, that's story. I told about Danny you
I grew up listening to Sports Talk Radio in Philadelphia
And that's also something that unites us all but you guys
are the next generation of young people talking about sports.
I don't know that we can ever do that.
We're 40 but yeah.
I know but that's still eight years younger than me.
Yeah WIP I think that's its own thing.
It will exist forever.
Forever.
Yeah.
I appreciate you having me on.
Yeah thanks Rob.
And now for something completely different. Okay, we now have our good friend Marty Fish on the show.
We thought last year we were talking, Marty is an AWL.
He's also a two time winner.
Hank actually said you were a seven time winner.
I don't know if he told you that.
Yeah, I know I asked you.
I was like, Dave, you said seven time winner.
But we were like, Marty's the coolest dude ever.
He listens to the show.
Let's have him on.
He's going to go win this tournament this weekend.
So you're, when you're watching on Sunday,
you're going to see Marty fish and be like,
Oh, that guy also listens to part of my take.
And he's the man.
So Marty, thank you for coming by.
Are you going to win this tournament?
I get that question a lot.
Thank you for having me.
I am a big fan of the show, AWL. I was excited to meet Zach. Thank you for having me. I am a big fan of the show AWL.
I was excited to meet Zach. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone is. Yeah.
I can't tell if he's serious or not. It's dead serious. Yeah. And I love it.
So nice. Yeah, dude. Thank you for having me on. Big fan.
Played. Okay. Am I going to win?
It doesn't golf is different. golf doesn't work like that.
Like golf is like a lot of extra stuff.
Like golf is a lot of bounces, a lot of luck,
a lot of this, a lot of that.
Like tennis is like if you're better than somebody,
you're gonna beat them most likely.
I feel like I'm the best player here, but it doesn't mean a lot.
But I'd like to win.
Yeah.
I did a bad job of introducing you.
You were a tennis pro.
Ninth in the world at one point?
Yeah.
Seven.
I got to seven.
Seventh in the world at one point.
Won some tournaments.
You went to the gold medal game, right?
I did. Yeah, I lost the I, you either win the gold, win the
bronze, you either win the gold, lose the gold or win the bronze.
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's especially in like, you're not
like a race. Like if you're a race, you finish second, you're
all you're elated, but I lost and gave me the, you know, silver.
So it's like, silvers were I think silver's worse than bronze.
Yeah, absolutely. I agree 100%. Yeah, you can, because the last thing that you remember when
you win the bronze is obviously winning. Yeah. It's another good thing. You got to win to get
the bronze. You're related, right? Like you got a medal. Right. And I was devastated that I lost the
gold. Right. And I was just standing there and they're playing the Chilean anthem. And I'm like,
this is a beautiful song, but like, this is the last thing I want to hear.
So you lost to a guy that we don't even know.
I lost to a Chilean guy that you've never heard of.
And then, and then he was a good player, but yeah.
And then, and then the guy that finished third was Chilean as well.
So those two, then when they do the, I was up two sets to one.
I mean, this is, I was up two sets to one in the final and a break in the fourth
set to, you don't know tennis for.
No, I do. I'm falling a little bit. I got it. But but I
was up big. And I law I ended up losing and then they're joining
each other on the on the middle on the on the podium. Belting
out the Chilean and kind of looks like Texas but it's not.
Does wait. So what were you up in the fourth set?
I was up three, one serving in the fourth two sets to one, three, one, three.
You blew it. Oh, I know.
I actually sat down like in change over at one point, like at like up a break in
the fourth, like legitimately going like, holy shit, I think I'm going to win the
gold medal. Oh, that. Yeah. And it like, it kind of flipped after that.
Don't do that.
I mean, you're pretty sick at sports.
So I don't know.
Everyone here in this entire Lake Tahoe,
you're like the mayor.
Everyone's like, I want to, you know everyone.
Yeah.
You've won the tournament twice.
You beat, like think about it.
I know obviously a gold medal Olympics would be sick.
But you come out to this tournament
and you beat like the biggest names in sports. That's gotta feel awesome golf
But yeah, no, I mean look I played this is my 12th year and I'm a huge sports fan
So like all these guys like I've wanted to meet anyways George Kittle last night was in the player meeting and he just sat next
To me and I was like, hey George, how you doing? I'm Marty and like then they they did something with my name
I just assumed he didn't know who I was and then they did something with my with the previous champion or whatever.
And I had the trophy.
He's like, oh, that's you.
Yes, George knows me.
Yes.
So yeah, I try I try and like meet everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's cool.
Why do tennis players grunt so much?
I mean, you got to let out like the energy and emotion and energy.
I don't know.
Some people don't.
Roger Federer didn't grunt at all until late, late, late
in a huge match.
It was the only time he ever grunted.
But then there's WTA tour.
There's a ton of grunting.
And they must like, I think they practice it.
WTA is the women's tour.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Ah! Yeah.
Yeah.
Ah, ee!
That.
Ah!
It was Monica Sellis like, what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ah!
What?
Monica Sellis was one of the worst.
Sharapova was loud when she got indoors as well.
Like just-
Would it bother you?
Would it fuck you up if someone was grunting like crazy?
I mean, a lot of like, you'd get like some South American guys who would grunt and they
would hit it and they'd go, they'd hit it and then they go eeee. So it hit their racquet. Okay now
it's hitting the racket right now. Like that. It was like come on. You could say something.
It usually end up saying something to them. Yeah. Yeah obviously world-class
tennis player. You're very close to being world
class golfer, right? Yeah. Like how far away are you from being
a pro?
I mean, technically I am because I accept the prize money
here. Yeah, smart. Yeah, that is what is so is Charles Barclay.
Oh, okay. What is the prize money? Um, you win 150 grand if
you want to turn. Okay. Real money. Yeah, that's real money.
It's go to a really expensive school. That's real money. You need to win.
Yeah. Like a tour guy. Like how,
how close are you to the mid like median? I get,
I would get a maybe a shot and a half aside probably.
So like three shots around. Okay. I'm like that. Yeah. Yeah.
I think it would be like a fair, you know, if I got two
aside, I'd feel really, I feel pretty comfortable, not against like Scotty Scheffler by any means,
but like if somebody could shoot mid sixties, then that then I would have to shoot like high
sixties or low seventies. What's your best round? 63, a bunch of 63s. I shot 63 here.
And they say it's a course record here, but like, I don't know, we played like
different tee boxes and stuff like that.
So they said, I shot 63 in 2020 is the COVID year.
And then I came off and they're like, course record, you beat Lee
Trevino is a course record.
I'm like, first of all, Lee Trevino played here.
Second of all, this got the tee boxes have got to be like, I'm not playing from the
back tee.
I mean, we got the tee boxes are all over the place.
Yeah.
So I'm like driving, you know, you can hit driver on 11.
Um Hank knows. Yeah, Hank does know. So uh yeah, the the T
box are all over the place too. How close is Hank to being a
professional? Yeah, break down Hank's game because you played
so Hank skipped a whole day of work. Yep. Uh played all 18
with you and Jake Owen. Uh said he had the best day ever while we were working.
We're all like, these guys barely slept.
No, there was a camera.
He was sitting here being like, he's a smart ass who's golfing.
Did you bring a camera out with you?
No, I took a couple pictures.
That would have been smart for an internet company, but go ahead.
I took some video.
So Hank comes up, says he's a 14 and immediately Jake is like, this is
bullshit this guy's a sandbagger because like the first couple shot you know you like ripped
driver on to I mean he was good he was like I don't know maybe a like he'd be a really
good traveling 14 like I want Hank and a member guest. Oh.
So you get a lot of shots.
Is that a backhand compliment?
Cause I've gotten that a few times too.
Yeah.
It's like, it's like, yeah.
So it's like, we're saying.
Well, you're better than,
you look like you're better than you're saying you are.
Right, right.
Okay.
Yeah. You're better than you're saying you are
is a sandbagger.
And I think, yeah, I think Hank, like,
I think he could easily, he's got gorgeous golf swing.
So like, I think he could be a five handicap gorgeous golf swing. So like I think he could be a
Five handicap. No problem. You just got it. He's got a play. He's got a lot of play. Oh, I mean, yeah
Thank you. I don't know if he physically could play more. There's not enough time in the day for him to play
He's just got to play more you guys tape at night
So break down the weaknesses, what are the weak points?
We had we got it. We hit it, we hit one shank on a chip
chipping. Yeah. Like kind of around the green, like he could
get keeping in front of him. He gets it up around the greens.
And then I feel like too, he's gotten better. We talked about
this. He's gotten better. He's in his game, he says. And so, and
so he's making bogeys. And he's like, no, I'm totally fine with that. And making bogeys and he's like no I'm totally fine with that
in making bogeys. I'm like no you know dude like you can make pars like we can like let's make
five pars and four bogeys and let's not make any double bogeys and so yeah he'd get to like
number six number seven which is that par three that Steph hit a hole in one in two years ago
and he'd like he'd play first six holes like really good and then get to number seven and like you know pull one over there and then chip
over oh no that was that was the one that was the putt he had one okay he had
the greatest putt I've ever seen in my life on number seven oh man we should
have had on camera that would have been sick he uh he okay so he hit a pretty
bad tee shot on seven and then and he hit a pretty bad tee shot on seven
and then hit a pretty bad chip.
It rolled, the pin's in the front
and this green is like a hundred feet.
And he, the pin's in the front and he's in the back.
And he can, like, if I was playing in the tournament,
I'd chip it because he has to go over the corner
of the bunker, basically.
And so he doesn't chip it, he like just hits his putt.
It's like a putt-putt, like a mini mini golf putt and he just goes right
through basically the the fringe the rough and then the fringe again and then
rolls all the way down takes the break and goes like two feet or like less than
less than two feet from the hole gimme great for great like four on to the next
plan is working perfectly because if people didn't hate Hank enough for
golfing they're gonna hate him even more that we're just recapping his round. Yeah, this is awesome
I fucking love this is what I do every time I set him up again
Yeah, can I give another strength of Hank's game?
Yeah
You probably saw this once or twice when he hits a shot and then after he makes the contact like he'll try to hit a draw
Yeah, but he doesn't really know how to hit a draw and then after he hits it
They don't start like twisting his club to the side.
Like he's willing it.
Like in the old Tiger Woods game, you could put spin on it in midair.
He's turned his body like, yeah, after the fact.
He's very good at that.
I got a dumb question for you, Marty, because watching you around here, you are the mayor
of this whole tournament.
Is having like an incredible golf game when you're not a pro, like one of the greatest
like get you into places thing?
Because I feel like everyone wants to play with you
You know everyone everyone respects the hell out of you and it's a lot because your golf game is so good, right?
I think that um what it's helped me in this tournament like at least meet a lot of people because I
Don't feel like everybody knows me here and I you, you know, and I, it's 15 years ago,
I retired, no, 10 years ago.
I retired exactly 10 years ago in September.
So I feel like everyone kind of looks
at the top of the leaderboard usually,
or like who's winning or who's around there or whatever.
So then I can like go and say hello.
And I'm pretty friendly.
So I'll like, I'm not afraid to like go say hi to somebody.
And like them telling me to fuck off
or like, I don't know you or who is it.
You can feel that. Yeah. But then most, most everybody.
And that's the fun part about this place is most everybody's super friendly.
It's a pretty humbling place. Like that, the player meeting last night,
like Steph is there. Aaron Rogers is there. The guys that like Justin Gage,
he's there like guys that like are the top of the top and like,
you're just sort of sitting in there too. And it's cool.
You're the top of all of them. It's really cool. That's golf though.
Yeah, but it's something they all want to be the best. Yeah, they want to be those guys do for sure.
Yeah, they want your golf. I go probably sell my game. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of money. Yeah, you could do that
I would do that if you had picked golf instead of tennis
Would you have been a professional golfer as you were playing tennis when you were two, right?
Yeah, I was playing I played golf and tennis and baseball
at a pretty high level in junior, whatever.
I stopped baseball at 13, I stopped golf at 14.
So I played junior golf and junior tennis,
like kind of trying to figure out which one or whatever,
or which one I liked more.
And I liked-
You might be the whitest guy ever.
The other, yeah.
They say the country club Bo Jackson.
Yeah, that's great. And so they're like, so yeah, so they, um, so they
were trying to, I'm trying to figure out which one my father
is a tennis teacher. He teaches at a club, um, in Bureau Beach,
Florida, and he pushed me towards tennis. He's been going
to the U S open before I was born as a fan. Yeah. So I showed
like a little bit of promise in tennis and it was like, that was
it all tennis. Yeah. And so I played like junior golf. was a good junior you know junior player and whatever I think I could
have figured it out but tennis was the one I think it also helps that you've got a cool name yeah
Marty fish like you're a good Simpson fish I did with that my entire life it could have been that
that's a great name for a country singer Marty Marty fish yeah it's with a d too which is yeah
Marty with a d yeah that's cool yeah uh all. Yeah. Marty with a D. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Uh alright. So
this week you're gonna you are you gonna win. Can you win for
us so that when people watch and you guys bet on it? No. Well,
I mean we can I should I will. Yeah, I will. Okay. Are you
sponsored? Sponsored by would you like to be sponsored by
part of my take? Love to be sponsored by part of my take
hat. Yeah. You wanna wear that hat? Love that hat. Yeah. Wear that hat. Yeah.
Here. I'll trade that game. Worn trade you hats. There it is.
All right. So you're going to be wearing that hat when we watch on. Well, I got it.
Well, I'll ask the guys if I can wear that. We thought you could wear that.
Hey, you know, they paid you. Okay. I don't want to take money out of your pocket.
No, no. Have you wear that? Definitely. Yeah. That'll work. Yep. There it is. Deal. Uh, could Hank ever play
in this tournament? Could you get him in this tournament? It
would be very funny if I get in this tournament. What about me?
What if I get good? I can get a lot of people in this tournament.
Hank. No. Okay. Tough one. Zach. What about Zach? I could get
Zach. Zach's the nicest dude ever. Actually. like, no, I don't want to play.
Do you think PFT and I will ever play in this tournament? I'd have to get so much, so much
better. Yeah, you guys should 100% play in this tournament. Yeah. You guys should just have,
you should just do a threesome. That would be hilarious if they allow it. Be like, they can't
win it, but they're just going to do a three man scramble. Yeah, yeah. Just see what it is. This is part of my take score. They can't technically win it, but we're just going to put a three man scramble. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, your best score. Just see what it is.
This is part of my take score.
They can't technically win it, but we're just
going to put it up on the leaderboard.
It'd be good for TV.
I think that's the only way we could keep up with the pace
of play, too.
It would be very funny.
I think we could actually figure that out.
Throw that out to them.
I will.
Because the other part of that is, like, we would just
fight the entire time.
Yeah.
Like, when we do scrambles together,
it's just a fight on whose ball is better.
And like,
is there like another podcast that you guys can play?
Caller Daddy.
All the golf podcasts are significantly better than us.
Yeah.
Maybe not them.
Like,
yeah, we could find one.
Come town.
No free ads on anyone,
but like,
like the Levitore guys can
we just yeah we'd play them. Yeah we'd smoke them. We'd smoke
them. Rossello by himself. I brought Rossello out a couple
weeks ago to Bel Air Country Club and I didn't know he was
that bad at golf. How bad are we talking? He's too strong. He is
too strong. His stomach's too big. He's too strong. He is too strong. He's too strong. His pecs getting away.
His stomach's too big.
He's too strong.
Abs are too big.
Yep.
Stomach is too big to get around the club.
Oh, no.
He's got a great golf body.
He's got too much muscle.
He's got a great golf body otherwise.
OK.
OK.
Great golf body.
Besides the whole body.
Besides the entire, all the muscle.
If you take away a lot, like, three quarters of the muscle. Yeah. Perfect golf body. He's shaped a tire all the muscle. If you take away a lot like three quarters of the muscle. Yeah, perfect golf body
Shaped like a pear. Yeah his entire pill
Anyways, I brought him out now. Yeah, you know Rossello's we actually talked about you guys
Yeah, he was like a I didn't know he's like 20 handicap. Yeah, I don't think he golfs a lot
No, well, yeah, he's locked into tape. I think he hits balls a lot.
He might.
Goes out to the local Muni and hits balls.
Yeah.
I had one last question.
Were you the first person, professional athlete,
to talk about mental health?
Because that's kind of cool.
And I'm not saying it's like a brag,
but we've gotten to a place now in sports where we actually,
as fans, realize, oh oh these are human beings where
I think 15 years ago that just didn't exist. I mean I it took me three years to
actually talk about it like you know out openly out outwardly to to non you know
close friends and family. I mean I know that Michael Phelps talked about it
early.
It seemed like my Netflix doc came out at a perfect time where they actually waited,
because COVID happened and they waited a year
to start those untold series on Netflix.
And it came out like a year after, you know,
everyone was locked up and all that.
And like, I'm sure, I mean, that was a hard time
for a lot of people mentally, mental health wise.
And so, yeah, that was, it was a, it felt like I was doing, doing good by sharing my
story, educating people on what it, what it is and how, what it looks like or how it feels.
And then, yeah, and then giving people a success story to go, okay, there's someone who like,
I may or may not have heard of them,
or it's an easy Google search,
but like he used to play tennis and was kind of in the fire
and got taken away by mental health,
by severe anxiety disorder,
and then was able to go back and play again,
like in the same place that he couldn't play before
Three years later and like I wanted to share that success story and a lot of guys now are coming out I mean I look back that was 2012. I look back. I didn't play at in 2013 at all
And I didn't play the US Open and and put out like a press release or something
It was probably on Twitter, but like a something like that where it it was like, I'm not playing, can't play, um,
knees still bothering me and had nothing to do with my knee. Right. So it was,
still, I still wasn't comfortable saying that people are more comfortable.
Now it helps that guys like Max Crosby and guys like Tyson Fury. And,
you know, these are like, I mean, to call them soft or to call that, you know,
not tough to, you know, suck it up, you, you know, you're soft, whatever. Um, to tell those guys that,
I mean, they're the opposite of that, obviously. And so, um, you know,
having, having those guys and then, and then, you know,
seeing Simone Biles and seeing Naomi Osaka and guys like, you know,
ladies like that come out and you know, the top of the top of their sport, um,
is, is, is nice to see to see them being able to do that.
I don't know if I had any impact on that.
If I did awesome, if I didn't great too,
cause they're still talking about it.
Yeah.
You would have beaten Frederick too.
100%.
Yeah.
I lost him the week before that
and I was like super close too.
So I definitely wouldn't have beat him
had I taken the court in that moment.
But yeah, that wasn't bad either.
Cedar goat.
Um, no Novak is yes.
Good answer.
No, that is just because, um, it's like Roger, Roger won one French.
He's the best grass court player ever, but then he won one French open.
No, that has won a few French and like, I mean, he's won, I think 12 Australian
opens, I mean he's won I think 12 Australian Opens. I mean just incredible
and I played all I played three of them a bunch and I never beat Novak. I just like he was
everything came back everything came back and everything came back with interest and everything
came back deep in the corners and like just never gave you anything. You had to earn everything and Roger and Rafa were like you could you could Roger would dump some balls and like he'd try some shots that
normal people wouldn't try even professional normal professionals wouldn't try but um and then
Rafa was like Roger's most talented player ever like he's the like the most talent laden person in a I mean maybe in like any
sport Michael Phelps is like have you guys seen Phelps in person? Human dolphin. He's
a human dolphin.
Don't forget about Joey Chestnut though. Yeah. Yeah. That's big. We just saw him. Yeah. Michael
Phelps is a human dolphin. Like his torso is his entire body. Like it's insane. Yeah. So yeah, these, um, Roger was like born to play tennis.
He's built to play tennis. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I have one last dumb question.
I never understood about tennis. When you guys just like give up on sets,
what's the point they give up on a set? What's the number? Like where it would be
like four one and they'll be like, I'm not, that's not going to try anymore.
Well, you got, it's gotta be a three out of five set match, or you got to be, or it's got to be
super hot or you're playing somebody who's way better. Because you'll see like Joker will
sometimes like he'll win a match and he lost the second set six to one. You know what happened?
For Novak, he's an inch, I mean tennis is super mental. Like it's like really,
leave the locker room, you're all by yourself, go figure it out
in front of 15,000 people, like just,
and people watch or whatever, like just figure it out.
And so you don't have anyone to bounce things off.
You don't have a caddy, you can't call timeout.
You don't have, you know, you can't sub somebody in for you.
So it's like, holy shit.
Those guys, yeah, like when you get to a point where it's double break
and maybe you're playing, like, so two break, like you've lost your serve twice in the set
and you're playing somebody that's way better than you or better than you and you need it,
like it's all conserving energy. Right. But like Novak, honestly, I feel like he needs
the he's so much better than these guys that like he he'll go second set second
round match in a grand slam and he'll lose the second set six one like he said
it's like where did that come from he I honestly thought I think he does it to
like fight like to like to put himself in uncomfortable situation right like
he legitimately does like he needs to like go at his his player box and like
you know get feisty on the court and if he's not he's not his his himself
I think that's why people don't love watching him play or don't love him watching him play as much as in the dollar better
Because they're such a classy classic like Rogers is a classic
Classy player Rafa's like, you know that brute like kind of strength and like in-your-face bull
But he's a sweetheart of a guy and like Novak is also very nice
but you don't he does personality doesn't come, but he's a sweetheart of a guy. And Novak is also very nice, but his personality doesn't come out
because sometimes he looks like a dick on the court
because he's going at his player box
or yelling at someone or talking to the umpire or whatever,
but he's putting himself in these weird situations
to fire himself up.
I guess it's a thing too,
because if you try to conserve energy,
you're also conserving your opponent's energy
because you're not working hard.
So it's like, we're both getting a break here.
You're just running.
Yeah.
And sometimes, I mean, you can get into, you know, there's in the summer after Wimbledon,
what's going on right now, there's a bunch of tournaments in the States.
It's Washington, DC.
It's Cincinnati.
It's obviously New York and US Open, like in the dead of summer.
You know, there was a tournament in Atlanta, dead of summer.
I mean, it's 110 degrees and 150 on the court, right?
Like it's like incredibly hot.
And so sometimes your body like just doesn't respond.
And you can't call it, it's like, I can't sub somebody in
because I didn't sleep well tonight.
Wimbledon is this weekend, right?
The finals? Yeah.
So who won?
No, we're running this tomorrow.
Who's going to win?
I think Novak wins this.
Yes.
I really do.
I think this is the last thing he gets to 25 majors,
and I think he's the last one he wins.
I don't think he can win a hard court.
He can't win the French.
And then he's, I don't think, with Sinner and Alcara,
I mean, it can happen, but I don't
think he can win a slam outside of Wimbledon anymore.
He's an amazing grass court player.
Did you ever see the battle of the surfaces?
I had forgotten about it and people tweeted at me.
It was Federer against Nadal and they made the court half grass, half clay.
I remember that. Didn't they play?
Didn't Roger and Andre play on like the top of a helipad?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
That was I don't know who won that one, though.
All right. Well, Marty, you're the man.
Thank you for listening. And also, we're going to be rooting hard for you.
Thanks for having me on.
Very special guest.
Yeah, big fan.
Yeah.
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Hank, Chill Week, Fire Fest of the Week?
Yeah, I mean, it's tough to have a Fire Fest on Chill Week.
I do have one, but it's...
You do?
Yeah.
You didn't get to play more golf with Marty Fish?
I already missed Marty.
Yeah.
He's a great golfer, great guy.
Great golfer.
Better person than golfer?
It's tough, it's a toss up, but yes.
Okay, okay.
That's kind of disrespectful to his golf game.
Yeah, no, he's a great golfer, but he's just an even better dude.
Yeah.
No, my Fire Festival week, which it's one of those things where it sounds crazy to say
I'm not that upset about the fact that I lost $8,000 PFT in a long drive contest because
Is that video out?
It came out today. Okay, love it. about the fact that I lost $8,000 PFT in a long drive contest because. Is that video out?
It came out today.
Okay, love it.
Came out Thursday.
Go watch it, long drive contest.
PFT, basically after the dunk thing ended,
the day of was like,
all right, let's do a long drive contest, $1,000 a yard.
And I shook his hand really without processing
what the bet was.
Are you calling me predatory?
No, it was just one of, I shook your hand.
I agree. I was just saying, Hank, me? You take advantage of it? No, it's just one of a, I shook your hand. I,
I, I agree. I was just saying Hank, you take advantage of no guy like me.
I'm always thinking of content. I was thinking about producing videos,
content for the show. And so I'm thinking to myself, okay,
what's next up now that Hank field to dunk, let's get another challenge for Hank.
Yeah. So, so the last, you know, six months or whatever,
it's been kind of like where, you know, back in my head, like I'm fucked,
like PFT can hit it at the time Probably 60 yards 70 yards easily further than me. So I was looking at a big a big check. Mm-hmm
He heard his back
Honestly, I thought I was gonna win because his back was so injured and he wasn't able to you know fully unload on a drive
But torque was compromised. I ended up only losing
By eight yards eight thousand dollars, which again like it sounds crazy because it is a lot of money
But I'm I'm like pretty happy with that can I offer you something and then I found out I owe him another thousand
Which I don't I I don't I don't know that I'm not making you pay the other house
I went back through my through my Zell history and I found that in
2022 I had well you found all you have never accepted a Zell
Yeah
I didn't know that I had to accept them and so I go back and all the payments that I've gotten there are from people who are paying me like 50 bucks, 100 bucks, whatever.
And then back in 2022, I see an outstanding payment from Hank Lockwood.
And we were trying to figure out where it was from.
We think it was at the Final Four in New Orleans at the casino.
I think I gave you a thousand bucks to gamble with that night.
But I'm such a nice guy that I'm going to I'm going to waive that debt.
And then I'm not going to make you I'm going to waive that debt.
And then I'm not going to make you pay me
the 8,000 cash for the drive.
I'm going to make you work it off, maybe
via a series of parlays.
I also have a deal for you.
So you owe me 8,000.
I'm willing to match and double.
You owe PFT 8,000.
Yeah, right.
Is that right? I'm willing to match and double. You're you're a PFT. Oh, yeah, right. Is that right? Yeah. I'm willing to match and
double. So that's 16,000. So you you would get your debt cleared,
and you would make $8,000. And all you have to do is a one hour
comedy special that we put out on the part of my take YouTube.
And it has to have a million views.
No, thanks. Okay. All right, well, hey, listen,
I was just thinking about content.
I'm always willing to figure out ways
to negotiate this thing.
How about getting a cat?
Ooh, how about a soul patch?
No.
How about dunking?
I'll tell you what.
How about abs?
Abs are coming.
I mean, I had abs at one point,
maybe not after the last two or three weeks listen the Boston to Chicago
to Boston pebble to Tahoe I'm burned out.
Yeah that's a lot.
That's so much.
Sounds hard.
I'm burned out.
No traveling for like two weeks for me.
You sound like mincy.
Hank, I can I can waive that debt as well and I'll pay you I'll pay you eight thousand dollars
If max gets a soul patch. Mmm
Wait, that's you five. I wouldn't do that deal Mac. I'll give you I'll give you five put it with them
Yeah, I get four thousand bucks 200. I will
Happily decline that four thousand dollars for a soul patch. No, thank you. Zack. What are your thoughts on the soul patch?
I think four thousand dollars soul patch you gotta take soul you. Zach, what are your thoughts on the soul patch? I think $4,000 soul patch, you gotta take soul patch.
All right, if we're offering money around Zach,
what about 10K?
You want 10K cash?
What do you need me to do for that?
Just a little sex tape.
Ah, shh.
No.
Uh, I just.
Wanna see how much you're not an intercourse guy?
I, it's more of an outer course guy.
Nobody's watching that weak stroke game, that's not gonna play. Okay, all right. It's more of an outer course. Nobody's watching that weak stroke game.
That's not going to.
Okay, all right.
That's why it offers there though.
If you ever get a jam, I appreciate that.
Hey, Hank, honestly, like you improved a lot as most improved
driver award.
Thank you.
The MID the middle.
We're close to you.
I mean you also had like people should watch the video, but
Hank had I think four really good drives.
PFT just hit one bomb.
He had to hit one low, low, like he had a perfect drive. Uh, but I'm not,
I'm happy with my effort. Just the result wasn't what we wanted.
You'll get there, Hank. You'll get there.
And you, maybe you'll get the track man working. Yeah. As the golf guy,
I will get the track man. That's a promise. Me and him to be grinding next week.
We're back to the grind. And it's good to have my relationship with Hank back not as competitors, but as
What CEO?
Yeah, the field came out. I think it's I think it's a gettable field wait
When is um, yeah the field for the internet and invitational. Yeah, I'm excited about it. I was looking at the lineup
I think no one on there that I think can be you. I'm feeling good about my game.
Rick Shields, bring it on, bitch.
When is our other Chill Week videos coming out?
In the next couple weeks.
Okay, because we got two more videos that are great.
One is the Usain Bolt versus Joey Chestnut challenge, which was great.
And the other one, maybe the end of me and Hank's friendship for a brief moment. We are friendship was like three old. Yeah. Yeah. I think,
I think the exact words were, I'm, I'm pretty much done with you.
Is what Hank told me.
It was, there was no pretty much. It was, it was, I'm done with you.
After this or something goes, I'm for real done with you.
This isn't a joke anymore. Like,
it's not like when this video is
over, we're going to be fine. I'm done for, I think I'm done forever was, was
the words that came out of it. Oh, it's great time. Very chill. It was very
chill. Oh, all right. PFT, you got your fire fast. Yeah. My fire fast of the
week is fire fast. Oh, I think it might be my FireFest. Okay.
Billy McFarland from FireFest hit me up two days ago,
as he does, we've got a little texting relationship.
Don't really hang out that much,
but one day we'll start to chill.
He hit me up a couple days ago, he said,
Hey, PFT, just want to let you know
I'm selling the FireFest IP.
Oh.
If you're interested in purchasing it.
So I got the link right here.
You can own the fire festival. You can own the brand, the trademark, the IP,
the social media assets and more. It's for sale on eBay right now.
You know how much it is? Okay.
Sale on eBay. So is it a, is there a minimum? Well, no, it's, it's a, it's an auction.
Is there a buy it now? There's no buy it now.
Is there any bids on it?
There have been 114 bids.
Oh, I think it probably is.
I was going to say 10,000.
Okay, maybe I won't buy this anymore.
Okay, what is it?
It's $205,000 right now.
$205,000.
Hank, Hank, you got to stop spilling this coffee.
What are you doing, dude?
You spilled the coffee twice in the last minute.
We're good. By the way, still one more day in Amazon Prime for Stellab this coffee. What are you doing, dude? You spilled the coffee twice in the last minute. That's what I'm talking about.
We're good.
By the way, still one more day in Amazon Prime
for Stel Blue Coffee.
Wait, $205,000?
$205,000 for FireFest.
That's a lot of money.
Do you think that's a good investment?
No.
$205?
Yeah.
$2,500 maybe?
I mean, the brand equity alone in the documentaries
that have been made about FireFest, what if? How are you going to make $205,000 back $2,500 maybe. I mean the brand equity alone in the documentaries
that have been made about FireFest, what if?
How are you gonna make $205,000 back if you own FireFest?
I'm gonna do FireFest.
Why can't we just do FireFest?
Yeah, we could just do it ourselves.
But then. We could just do it F-I-R-E.
And we just light each other on fire.
You want the why. Now, okay.
We already did the damn factory.
Well, hold on a second.
What if we just have an actual fire fest
and we're just like flamethrowers?
You're talking about Burning Man.
Yeah, but like fun Burning Man, not like weirdo Burning Man.
I'm talking about like basically just a fire fest
where it's us as 12-year-olds when you first realize
that you can light a match and you're like, this is awesome.
Pyro fest.
Pyro fest? Pyro fest're like, this is awesome. Hiro Fest.
Hiro Fest. Yeah. Fireworks. Yeah. Okay.
So the fact that you guys thought it would be like $5,000 or less.
What are you getting?
Nothing. You get, I just said you get the iconic brand. Yeah.
I have a question. What do you mean you get it? You get the, you own Fire Fest.
You own the IP.
If someone owns the IP, if someone purchases the IP of Fire Fest,
can that person show us for this segment? No, no, definitely
not. No, Maj. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Also, okay. They sue us and we
just say, okay, we'll just we'll just end every Friday show with
what was the worst thing that happened this week to you? New
segment.
Damn. Got us. I'm considering it very strongly, but I'm less so now that you guys thought that the value would be so much less than what they're asking. Yeah. That seems like,
when you play whose line is in, what's the way for that? The market is way off.
All right. So now I'm thinking about it from a bigger picture.
I would be spending $200,000 on a name for a festival that has not happened twice.
Yes.
And you might like pick up the existing lawsuits. Like if I know Billy.
Yeah, that's true. I would fire Billy. That's true. They might be getting sued.
Act one day one. Here's Billy. You're fired. Also you now are suing all the lawsuits. Yeah. Which actually would be a genius move by him.
It would be a great move. It's all up to this guy right now. Yeah. Maybe I'd get my dick
sucked though for a case of water. Case of water, yeah. Yeah, we'd give him some body
armor. Okay, well I'm considering it less so, but still it's rolling around in there. Okay. All right. My fire for us. I got two. The first one we're out here.
Chill week, Tahoe. Awesome. Thank you to the American century classic,
American century championship. Yep. Championship. Awesome event.
Shout out Steve for hooking it up for us. We love coming here.
Hopefully you can come here every year.
But it's a great event.
And part of the event is like,
there's a lot of really cool athletes, stars,
just hanging out, doing the driving range,
getting on the golf course.
And I happened to run into an old nemesis of mine
who's now, I would say we're on good terms,
but won Aaron Rodgers.
And I said to him, do you just not respond to texts anymore?
Because I had, I think I was at about six blue bubbles
with him.
And I want to say this time, it was not me
asking him to come on the show.
I was maybe asking for an update of whether he was going
to sign with the Steelers.
Can I give you Jersey Jerry's number?
Yeah, there was a Jersey Jerry text in there.
So it wasn't me like asking for anything, but he had not responded for months and months
and months.
So I went up to him, I was like, but you just not respond to text anymore.
He said, yeah, I changed my number.
I was like, oh, okay, well, that explains that I will never have Aaron Rodgers new number.
And then our friend Marty Fish, who Hank played golf with, was sitting next to Aaron and he
was like, big cat, I'll give you Aaron's new number.
I was like, oh, great. So I, I'll give you Aaron's new number. I was like, oh great.
So I'm back.
He sent me the new number.
I went to text Aaron being like, got your new number.
And it was just the same number.
And he basically was just trying to end the conversation
with me by saying he has a new number.
But he's seen every time.
That's a classic move.
Yeah, I felt like such a fucking fool.
So the fact that it's-
You type the number and then-
All my texts were right there. And I was like, god damn it. The fact that it's you type the number and then all my text were right there and I was like, God damn it.
The fact that's blue bubbles is that means he doesn't have
you muted though, right?
I don't know.
Or hasn't blocked you.
Well, he might have.
I don't know.
When you told me that he changed his number, the first
thing I did, I was like, well, I'm going to send his old
number to Jersey Jerry because now it's the old number.
So now Jersey Jerry has Aaron Rodgers real
number but that's Aaron Rodgers fault for telling me for telling you a lie.
But I did I have to tip my cap that's a hilarious move to just tell someone you
change the number and like yeah let them walk off. It's a good move. Yeah so good
move by him and then the other FireFest is just time zones. I hate Pacific time
zone it sucks. Everything's just two nights in a row I've just pulled.
What, you love it?
I don't hate it.
I've pulled up, we have long days,
and I'll pull up the Cubs game,
being like, I'm gonna watch the Cubs game
in my hotel room, and they're just like,
oh, they're down eight nothing, it's the eighth inning.
Fuck.
Yeah, you get the notifications that games
are starting here at like 2 p.m.?
Yeah.
It's like, wait, we're playing another day game today.
What's going on? The Mets and Orioles are playing right now.
It's 9 a.m. That's crazy. Yeah, it makes no sense.
So I'm not a fan of the Pacific time zone.
Everyone always says it's the best time zone for sports.
I couldn't disagree more. Yeah, I don't like the idea of waking up
and having breakfast while football is coming on.
And I've said it before, but you like so it's the they always
might be the number one
conversation we've had on the show. Yeah well on the internet has it they they always say oh well
9 a.m. or whatever 10 a.m. NFL Sunday it's like all right and then what do you do at 8 p.m. on
Sunday night there's no more football. Yeah football is not a breakfast sport tennis is a
breakfast sport. Correct golf can be a breakfast sport football championship coming up. Football
is a beer sport. Yeah soccer is a morning sport. Soc championship coming up. Football is a beer sport. Yeah, soccer is a morning sport.
Soccer could be either way.
Yeah, mostly morning.
Soccer's a hungover sport.
Yeah, football you need to have your wits about you.
Yep.
So, all right, Zach.
My FireFest of the week, we did travel this week,
is personally packing.
So I've got, right now, I probably have like 11 pairs
of underwear, four phone chargers, and two pairs of headphones, but I've got right now I probably have like 11 pairs of underwear, four phone
chargers and two pairs of headphones, but I've got two pairs of shorts, didn't bring
toothpaste had to acquire that late in the game. Also no shaving cream. So I'm somehow
ended up way.
You're shaving? You're shaving with shaving cream?
Should I up somewhere else?
I didn't know you shaved. You have a full beard.
Straight line.
I just trim it up a little bit.
Do you do it every day?
No, just whenever it's like disheveled.
Okay.
But somehow I ended up really tech heavy in my backpack and no clothes.
Wait, you just have no clothes?
I have two pairs of shorts, an insane amount of boxers, but way too many chargers.
I can't wear two pairs of headphones.
It's not good at all.
That is not good. What about socks? Socks? I do have a couple pairs of socks, but I didn't
match them correctly before leaving. So like the two different styles of socks. So like
we got like high arch support on the right and then no arch support on the left. This
one starts moving around. It's not good. I've never packed the appropriate amount of socks.
I always pack like two pairs on a five day trip or I'll pack like 12 pairs on a three-day trip
Never the right amount. Do you have bad arch support?
I don't have any arches, but the the bands the bands on the for the arch support
We either got to be tight on both sides or not at all. Oh
You're super flat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're all you're all fucked up a little bit. Yeah. Okay
Who's the who's the person you were like that's cool that he's here like celebrity where you're not the most starstruck
I did hear murmurs of Baker Mayfield being here. Just I saw him this morning. How was that? Great. Really? Yeah
How was his uh energy great you can like kind of feel around like fantastic energy. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah
Fantastic. I love that for you. Yeah. I wish you had been there
That would have been yeah, we'll try to figure out a way for you to meet him
What would you say you want to practice?
Do practice hankins baker mayfield do a practice interview. Yo, what's up big cow? What's up pft? What's up? Hey baker?
What's going hello baker? I'm zach. Nice to meet you. How are you? I'm good about to go hit some balls
That's awesome. How's your golf game doing today? Ah, not great. Not, you know, we're just gonna try and hit him straight
I have a good time. You know,
you get into anything fun for the off season? Just just training. You know, that's it. Anything
else? Any kind of like whimsical fun stuff? No, no. All ball. I love that little ball.
Yeah. Little golf. Awesome. Take the boat out. Sweet. Oh, you're a boat guy. Huge boat
guy. Swim guy. Yeah, I swim too. Sick. How about you? Yeah, we get we get the boat sometime. No, no
As if you were a boat guy, oh but I dabble yeah nice it's great to meet you bigger
Chubby you do you too? What a man you're kind of man Zane
Was that what's your Oh Zack nice to meet you Baker. Yeah, you're busy. I get it
All right, I appreciate me and you man. I'm cast on that interview by the way. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm sorry about that
Yeah, Baker. I gotta go. He's kind of a weird guy
But we love him. That was a good interview. That was good fair. I also like dropping a whimsical
I thought he opened up with
a boat. He said I have a boat and we could boat sometime.
Miss Reed. Yeah, that was a mystery. It's okay. That's why
we practice right training camp. Yeah, we'll do any of that if
we need. Yeah, sure. I love to be your best friend. No, if you
if we if we somehow meet him, you have to drop a whimsical.
It is a whimsical. Yeah, you have to. Okay. All right. Yeah,
for you. All right. Perfect. Love that. Good job, Zack
Great job. Zack's done great this week. Yes. He is he's Julian Edelman our guy Jules said he's rookie of the year rookie of the
Year, how about that? Yeah, it was a lot
I'm not sure I don't know how to respond to rookie of the year. That was very kind of him to say I didn't see that
coming
He's man. Okay, nice nice
shot him He's a man. Okay. Nice. Nice. Shout out to him. Shout out to him.
Okay. Good show, boys. Great week.
Do we have any other FireFests?
Any, like, onion-related...
Anything else happen?
Leaving dinner, FireFest.
Storming out.
Any storming out moments that happen?
FireFest? No one?
Max, Memes, Shane, anything?
Well, at one point we went to dinner last night and I didn't want onions on my
tuna melt, so I got upset. Yeah. And then Pug asked me if I sleep with an onion.
That really, really set me off, so I stormed out of dinner and went home. Oh wait, no, that wasn't me that was Shane Shane with
you stormed out of dinner you stormed then you just I didn't hear the pug
question by the way they talked to me afterwards I did not hear the pug oh we
thought you left because of pug no it's not roasted your ass yeah you were gonna
hit pug we were talking we were talking about how big guys sleeps with a pill or most of these guys sleep with a pill under
their legs. Yeah, yeah. I said something and publish like, do you sleep with an
onion? Yeah, it also made no sense. No, it was not. It made no sense. Pug was
just feeling it. Uh, he was tapping in like a madman last night. Follow him on
tapping. But Shane, you, you, you stormed out at dinner. I could feel like an AV one gang bang about to happen.
It was so you, Shane does it.
Shane has some particular things that he likes and doesn't like when it comes to
food.
He did get lied to when we went to this place and asked if the tuna salad had
onions. The guy said no.
And then the first thing that you saw was an onion that set it off on a bad foot.
But when you didn't set it off.
What?
The set off was, we were in line and it was tuna salad
was on the menu.
And I just asked the guy,
is there onions in the tuna salad?
And you would have thought I pulled out a pistol
and shot this man.
Everyone was so surprised that I asked that.
What was his reaction?
Who was giving you...
He said, no, there's no onions.
Who was giving you the shit? Shit everybody they call me a pussy
Word pussy was implied. I don't think it was said. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure memes call me a pussy
Yeah, yeah, I don't see my next to me. He might have called you a pussy. Oh child child
Yeah, but like it's not an uncommon thing like every time we order you don't like onions. Yeah, yeah, child. But like, it's not an uncommon thing. Like every time we order. You don't like onions?
Yeah, I don't like onions.
But you like onion rings?
I mean, they're fine.
Zach got you on that one.
He needs an onion ring, yeah.
But also onions are in everything.
That's a tough thing to not like to eat
because they just sneak them into all sorts of sauces.
You probably get surprised by onions every day.
I mean, you got back to the whole tabaraz.
Tell us what happened when you stormed off. I've never,
I don't, I don't remember the last time I've seen a storm off.
It wasn't like, it wasn't as dramatic as it was pretty. We
were sitting there all having dinner, having a couple beers,
great live music and and you just said, you know what? Fuck
you guys and you got up and left. I did not say that was
the opposite. I said, I I said thank you for the meal
I did say thank you. I did 100% okay, but then you
Well, I walked away you
We were all we sat there for like an hour late you let you left to your feet. Yeah, it was a leap to your feet
Yeah, there was a chance. I thought you're gonna like go and attack pug for yeah
I thought I didn't even hear the pug thing
I just knew it was the tides returning and it like it was it was time for you to go you mean like
And when I'm back at that point, I apologize. Oh you did. Oh, okay
Well, you guys know how these these trips come like average in four hours of sleep this right? Yeah, that's fair
You guys work your asses off. It's not chill for the behind-the-scenes guys shout out song guy. Matt who's been with us all week
I was just hangry and
Apologize. Yeah
Can I tell you one discussion that happened when you left the table? I
Mean you can tell me okay. Well, I would like your take on it because we had theories
Okay in a hypothetical world, we were saying
if Shane showed up today, so we were saying tomorrow
when we start taping, with a gun and he
was going to kill all of us, who would he kill in what order?
And we were all very much, themes
would be killed first without a doubt.
Is that fair?
This is hypothetical.
This is hypothetical.
This is hypothetical. You're asking me? Yeah, this is hypothetical. This is a crazy hypothetical. It's just a doubt. Is that fair? This is hypothetical, this is hypothetical. This is hypothetical.
You're asking me?
Yeah, this is hypothetical.
This is a crazy hypothetical.
It's just a hypothetical.
I don't know how to respond.
I think it was memes max.
You're asking who I would kill first?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, it's a fun hypothetical.
Memes max, then was it Hank?
We said Hank, but then Hank was like,
no, I think you'd go Pug.
Pug, would you go Pug?
I would kill myself before I kill Pug. No, oh wow, but definitely I think you go pug. Pug? Would you go pug? I would kill myself before I kill this.
No.
Oh, wow.
But definitely you'd kill memes first.
All right, gun to your head.
Gun to your head.
No answer is yes.
No answer is yes.
Gun to your head.
You have to shoot someone.
I don't know.
I haven't thought about this.
All right, you're thinking about it now.
Who would you kill in this room first?
It's a pretty big hypothetical.
You guys, like the-
All right, I'll go.
You know what?
If you don't want to do it, I'll go.
If I had to kill someone in this room, I'd kill sound guy,
Matt first,
we could afford to lose them.
Shane, who would you, it would be me.
I don't know. Like maybe I don't know. Go for a collateral. That's a yes. That's a
yes. Right, Max? Yeah, it's's for sure and I think you're too for sure
Yeah, the only other person. Yes. I for sure too
I'm for sure we in the hypothetical then got to the point where you killed everyone but spared Zack and then Zack
I was just started apologizing
To the staff being like I'm sorry. They made a mess with this blood like I'll clean it up
Like you gotta leave one guy alive to tell the tale.
Yeah. Tell everyone else what happened here.
That would be, that would be Zach.
I tell it straight chain.
They deserved it.
It was justified homicide.
Cool. Pug now, right?
Yeah. Like, like I said, I didn't even hear what Pug said.
So, okay.
No, no. Okay. Okay. an onion? Yep. No? No.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Well, then there we go.
We got to the bottom of it.
We've got French onion soup.
Never had it.
Oh yeah.
Shane had his first burrito this week.
Yeah.
Shane, would you be open to doing a video series, short video series of you trying things?
Because I think you would like some of these things.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe we'll do that.
Like what are some of the things you? All right. We'll do
onions. We'll do you've never had a peach anal. You know,
random shit. Just throw it out there. Shane tries. All right.
I'm happy that we've that that the moment has passed. Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a good dinner.
It was a good dinner.
It was a great dinner.
But then you did leap up.
I thought you were gonna flip the table over.
And then that got me thinking about Jesus flipping tables
over and I was like, that's not that chill.
Yeah.
Bad pick.
Yeah.
Chill week.
Hey, listen, chill week.
We still work on chill week.
So, all right, great show boys. We'll be back in studio on Monday show Sunday night and let's kick it to ourselves for lottery ball
Okay back in studio do numbers 321 I think that was PFT 77
And of chill week great chill week great chill week had a blast hot dog
Hank beat me in the long drive competition
Did he oh
I think he's got a shot. I got a shy guy's a
Good of a shot as I could have possibly hoped for so we get five shots each so that's the problem. Yeah
My back is fucked Hank. Mm-hmm
All right. Wait, what was your number? PFC you had three took number three and then I had 77 Shane you had 21
Okay
I'll go six
99 oh
Wow, it's dirty Wow get dirty
99 memes
I'll go
Stunt
One would be 11 31 I'm rooting for 16. Yeah. Yeah one's gonna be so
11 31 I'm rooting for 16 yeah yeah one's gonna be so
80
still don't have Another week in the books. Love you guys. So So I'm gonna be a good boy So Thanks for watching!