Pardon My Take - Robert Griffin III, The 41 Free Throw Challenge, Super Bowl Clean Up And We're Low On Sleep
Episode Date: February 14, 2024We start with some Super Bowl clean up and the boys are very low on sleep and borderline delirious. We taped the first 20 minutes of the show at 3 am, left to shoot more free throws during Hot Seat/Co...ol Throne (00:00:00-00:30:00) and then returned after we had finally completed the free throw challenge at 8 am. We go on some wild side tangents to different places in the recess of our brain (00:30:00-00:40:54). Robert Griffin III joins us in studio as we talk about his career, how he saved football for PFT, is he too horny online? And tons more (00:40:54-01:59:25). We finish with Pardon Your Take from the listeners (01:59:25-02:09:41).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we have an awesome interview with RG3 in person from last week.
PFT got a little emotional.
I did.
I did.
I didn't expect that coming.
Yeah, it was a great interview.
So, get excited. We're also going to do a little Super Bowl cleanup. Full disclosure, we're taping this podcast at three
in the morning after shooting free throws for the last 13 hours. The stream is still going on,
but we thought we'd have to hop in here and tape it while we still have a couple brain cells left
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Today is Wednesday, February 14th.
Happy Valentine's Day.
Happy Valentine's Day. Let's go guys.
So you guys get it each other anything here. Yeah. I got you some lingerie. Thank you.
Yeah. I've been needing some. So just to set the stage. What Jake what are you doing?
Jake's showing a Valentine. Oh he's doing the Taylor Swift heart that he invented.
Valentine's Day. Gross. Taylor Swift heart.
All right, so just to set the stage,
it is three in the morning right now.
We've been streaming our horrifically awful attempt
at hitting 41 free throws in a row for the last 13 hours.
No, 11 hours.
11 hours.
It probably will go for another 13 hours.
We are literally in hell
And so we figured let's just record the podcast right now because
By the time we finish this thing we will have not slept for like 48 hours and we'd be speaking gibberish
You get the last
bits of brain cells that we have left
running around in the top of our head. Yeah, it feels like my skull is in a knife fight against my neck and
We're soldiering through it and big cat has probably what 600 points. Yeah, six are fumie live tonight
I think I've probably got about that many rebounds
Hank has that many minutes sitting on the couch. So we're all exhausted right now. I I got benched. I just want to say I'm here
I just want to say to anyone out there
If you ever thought it'd be fun to like like hey, let's just try to hit 41 free throws in a row with your friends
It's not fun. It's not fun. It's not fun, especially if a lot of your friends don't play basketball
We had we had a little moment where I thought it was gonna happen when Pat Bev came in shout out to Pat Bev
Made the drive down from Milwaukee tonight. The middle of
the night showed up and he just got to the line, he was wet. He made like, I
think 12 in a row, something like that. The vibes were so high.
Vibes were high. Remember, so the worst part about this entire experiment is right
at the start of it, you guys got down to three shots left. At 6.30. After the first
two hours
I looked at Hank three shots. I looked at Hank and we both had this look like oh fuck
We're going home for dinner. Yeah, who's had more shots today? You are Patrick Holmes senior. Mmm Patrick Holmes, Jr.
Looked like he was he did you see him at Disney World? Yeah, or Disneyland which one's Disney World is the one in Florida
They're at land because it was closer to California Did you see him at Disney World? Yeah. Or Disneyland, which one's the one? Disney World is the one in Florida.
They were at land because it was closer to Vegas.
California, they're in California.
But he looked like he'd been partying all night in Vegas
and then was forced to go to Disney World or land,
which was very funny.
He also, he also said something interesting,
which we kind of alluded to on Sunday, credit to us.
He said that Andy Reed had already explained to the chiefs
that they were gonna go for two
if the 49ers had scored the first touchdown.
Yeah, that was the plan.
The chiefs, Chris Jones, we talked about that on Sunday.
Yeah.
Chris Jones. I don't remember anything.
Yeah, so Chris Jones, the chiefs were very well prepared
for this exact scenario.
More and more interviews with different 49ers came out
and they all said that they hadn't really talked about it.
Yeah. So I don't necessarily know if Kyle Shanahan
talked to an analytics guy. I think there was probably like some guy on the
sideline with glasses and Kyle was like what should we do? And then goes like
you always receive the kickoff. So I think that's what the Niners plan to do. It
did end up fucking them. I actually had a thought this morning, because I woke up just one thought. I
woke up still thinking about the Super Bowl. If you do get the
ball first and overtime, and you score, should you preemptively
go for two? Yeah, well, I was thinking that as well. I don't
think you would. Because then the other team could win with an
extra point. If you don't get it.
If you don't get it.
But it's something to think about.
Yeah.
That would be the only thing that could save the 49ers
if they said, yeah, our plan was to go for two
if we scored a touchdown, even though we didn't score a touchdown.
Dan Campbell definitely would have gone for two.
Yeah, definitely.
In thinking back to the Super Bowl and the cleanup
that we have of it, it really just goes back
to the overtime decision.
And there's one other play that stuck out when I was kind of going back through it all
and watching it.
It was in overtime when the 49ers had gone down to, I think, or Chris McCaffrey ran
that ball to like the 19 second and two.
And remember when we were watching the game and were like, who's number nine? Why is he on the field? and then the first one, the first one, the first one, the first one, the first one, the first one,
the first one,
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the first one, the first one, the first one, theittle and Christian McCaffrey on the field instead of Elijah Mitchell and the guy
who got a holding penalty against him.
Yeah, they didn't even go Ray Ray.
They passed over they took Ray Ray out of the game because Ray Ray
was on fire at that point.
They put that guy into block and he committed just an egregious
holding penalty.
What like what that that and I also think that the other thing
people were talking about a day later was Kyle Shanahan, his
offense sputtering in the beginning
of the second half when they could have really stepped on the chiefs and they never really like
took that moment. I went back through people like oh he he abandoned the run. I never thought he
they fully abandoned the run. They had some bad penalties to start a couple of those drives that
put him in bad spots and I don't know, it just sucks.
Like I don't think Kyle Shanahan is not gonna get
over this for a long time.
Yeah, this is a label that's gonna wear on him.
It is what he is at this point.
Like until he wins a Super Bowl, we're just gonna say,
yeah, Kyle Shanahan is the guy that can't win a Super Bowl.
And it sucks because he's a good coach,
but he did run up against Patrick Mahomes.
Who by the way, I don't know if you saw this, Hank,
you'll appreciate this. Your good friend, our dear friend, Mike Florio, wrote an up against Patrick Mahomes, who by the way, I don't know if you saw this Hank, you'll appreciate this Your good friend our dear friend Mike Florio
Wrote an article praising Patrick Mahomes because he just set another all-time record in the Super Bowl. Oh most fumble recoveries
Oh ever in a super in the Super Bowl by a single quarterback
And so he has that record and that seems like a record way it was didn't get tracked till like 2002 also
Is that just the bad snaps? It's it's a combination of bad snaps and also him having fumbles
forced against him.
Yeah.
And he picks those up.
But was it like the three snaps that were so low
that you had to pick them up off the ground?
I think that probably had a lot to do with it, yeah.
I was seeing people saying that the Chiefs
recovered like six fumbles.
I don't remember that many fumbles.
If it just skips to you, is that a fumble?
Yeah. Mike Flurry also is trying to get Andy Reed to retire. He is trying very hard. like six fumbles. I don't remember that many fumbles. If it just skips to you, is that a fumble?
Yeah. Mike Floyd also is trying to get any reader to retire.
He is trying very hard.
Yeah.
We kid Mike, we're joking.
He, this is the end of-
We joke like that.
We just because we love Mike.
Yeah, it's Valentine's Day, Mike. We love you.
So by the way, shout out to her, Valentine's Day.
I think, sorry Miley, I'm sticking with her.
Oh you are?
Yeah, I've done a deep dive into her catalog today.
Oh nice.
Pretty impressive.
Nice.
Deep dive.
She really knows that, never mind.
Okay.
So at the end of this article by Florio,
he said, does anybody think Mahomes won't be back
to the Super Bowl?
He's 28, he's only getting better.
He'll soon reach super computer status. Whoa. Where he'll know what to the Super Bowl. He's 28. He's only getting better. He'll soon reach supercomputer status.
Whoa.
Where he'll know what to do before each play starts.
Oh.
I feel like he already has that.
He's just becoming AI.
We've got AI Myhomes.
Florio thinks he's gonna start getting developed
this off season.
Yeah.
I don't know, but I like the idea
of a supercomputer quarterback.
Yeah, I do too.
So, Super Computer Myhomes.
Mm-hmm.
Gonna go after everyone. It's gonna get neural ink. It looked like the
party afterwards was very fun. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift
were singing Taylor Swift songs. It was squad goals. It was so
fucking romantic. Me and who? What? If you're gonna do Taylor
Swift lyrics in here right now,
at this hour?
No, that's just girls seeing those videos
being like me and who.
Me and who?
Oh, like one day I'll find my Travis, yeah.
I'm Taylor Swift.
And who is my Travis?
Like Hall of Fame, tight end.
Who just won his third Super Bowl.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Me and who?
Goals, yeah.
It's honestly goals.
It's big time goals.
I just... something weird is going on with women in America right now.
Why?
They think that they are too.
Okay, go... wait, hold on.
Women in America? Hold on, okay.
Let me just get my seat so I can go back a little.
Yeah. Go ahead.
All right, and I do have my gesturing pin out right now.
Yeah.
Shout out, pug. Shout out, pug.
Shout out, pug.
Every woman in America thinks she's Taylor Swift.
Yes.
That is a fact.
Yeah, it's a fact.
Like they're living vicariously through Taylor Swift.
There will be guys that get plastic surgery
to look more like Travis Kelsey
so they can start dating with him.
And every guy's living vicariously through Travis
because they just want to win a Super Bowl.
I'm not. No, Hanks right, because just want to win a Super Bowl. I'm not.
No, Hank's right, because they want to win a Super Bowl.
I feel like there was a little bit of time
where I lived vicariously through Johnny Bananas.
That was about it.
Yeah.
Oh, I lived vicariously through Jackass.
Jackass, for sure.
I was like, that's just me and my friends.
Yeah.
Johnny Manzo.
Eh.
Yeah.
At A&M?
Yeah, I don't know. I guess living vicariously though.
I'm saying like Johnny Manziel was an incredible quarterback,
so he's like, I'm not gonna be an incredible quarterback.
What is it?
Johnny Manziel is a regular guy who just dominated the challenge.
He's like, that could be me.
I just got real, you know, I was on real world.
What do you think the dude equivalent of Taylor Swift is?
Like a guy that every
dude goes nuts. I think it's John Daley. It might be John Daley. There's a TikTok thing
saying it was Shane Gillis. Oh yeah, that makes sense. Shane is definitely, yeah. Every
woman's like, I want to find true love and settle down and just be happy for the rest
of my life. Every dude's like, I want to get fucking hammered. Yeah. All the time. It's like a perfect, it's the perfect romcom
whenever they have like the perfect 10 female lead,
and then like a kind of a gross, pudgy, male lead,
and like, yeah, of course he's got them.
Yeah, I blame commercials for that.
I blame King of Queen.
King of Queen, sitcoms and commercials.
It's always-
And Seinfeld, Costanza had the fucking hottest girlfriends.
He did, Kramer got some babes too. Yeah, but yeah every commercial
You see it's a it's a big slubby guy with a hot wife
He's like oh my hottest girlfriend. He had hot girlfriend Marissa Tomei dude
He had the fucking model remember you had the model picture. Yeah, but that was one episode and he you know
He had the picture and he had some hot girlfriends. It's kind of crazy Jerry's girl aids
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah.
I mean, like, I guess it was a little bit past,
it was like early 90s, but he fucking slept around.
Yeah.
He was very promiscuous.
There were definitely some,
there was an episode that Larry David wrote
about one of them getting an STD.
Yeah.
What were you gonna say, Max?
I was just one of the,
make sure that I remember that you haven't slept for 15 hours.
Yeah.
This is the Valentine's Day episode.
Hey, why didn't Jerry Seinfeld get AIDS?
Maybe he did get AIDS and that's why they cut the show short.
Oh, that's true.
Maybe it was implied.
It's like, well, we don't really know how to wrap this up.
He obviously has AIDS.
Yeah.
Wait, what are you talking about?
We're talking about just frumpy dudes in commercials and it's always a hot chick and he's always
like complaining about his nagging bitch wife who's way too hot for him. I'm just picking my nose so hardcore on this.
I just realized I said 15 hours that would be nine hours of sleep. That's plenty balls.
No I'm on I mean you guys are probably in the same boat but with off of the Vegas
trip it's like the last four days I maybe
have slept total of like nine hours total.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
It's pretty bad.
It's getting a little foggy up in the old dome.
We do have another storyline from the Super Bowl, which we probably talk about.
The ratings came out.
Oh.
Turns out a lot of people watched the Super Bowl this year.
Most watched?
Most watched show of all time.
Wow. And that it beat the moon landing. Feels watched? Most watched show of all time. Wow. And that
it beat the moon landing. Feels good to be part of history. Yeah, it's pretty cool. We
fucking watched. We watched. We watched the one thing that everybody else watched. Fuck
yes, where you having a hang? One of my favorite tweets of all time from Glinney Balls when
he said, I've been up for 16 hours and traveled from Long Island
at 4am. Everyone's like that's a regular day Glennie.
16 hours is what 8am to midnight. Yeah I'm up for 16 hours every day.
I'm literally up it's I'm up 7 to 11 every single day no matter what.
Oh I can't get my solid 10 hours of sleep tonight.
It sucks.
That's incredible.
What were we saying?
Oh, it beat the moon landing.
112 points.
In your face.
Four million.
Hey, you guys can't laugh at us because you said you wanted to do the podcast right
now.
In your face.
I love this.
This episode rocks.
This episode does rock.
The moon kind of overrated, by the way. I think we've discussed that before in the podcast. Yeah, this episode rocks. This episode does rock. The moon kind of overrated by the way.
I think we've discussed that before in the past. Yeah, I'd agree.
Not made out of cheese.
Where does the moon have?
Except for predicting lines.
Games.
True.
That's a valid point.
Also, it used to protect us against asteroids,
that's why there's all those craters on there.
Haven't seen an asteroid hit the moon in millions of years.
Worthless piece of shit.
Yeah, it was supposed to be our full back.
It was our full back, but the full back got phased out.
We're running the spread offense now.
What else do we got? What else?
The moon landing and the Super Bowl also both government
psyops. Yeah, something interesting to think about.
Max.
Oh, let's read a couple headlines real quick and then we'll do
hot seat. Jason Kelsey also rocked at the after party.
Hey, that was my cold. Oh, sorry. That was my hot seat Victor women Yama had a triple double and he had ten blocks
Oh, fuck. Yes. So not a bust not a bust at all
Steelers released three players including QB Mitch risky. Oh that sucks. Yeah, that might be if you love something set it free
That sucks. Yeah, that might be it for Mitch. You love something set it free. I think that might be it for Mitch
Kill Williams had a GQ spread. He did some spread some spread
You can have them
Okay
All right, I'll take it listen. I don't know man like I just said this might just be 3 a.m. talking. I do want them on the Bears, but like
You got to play in the NFL first, dude
You got to know the picture. There's a lot of bullets in board material on himself. Well the last like full year
Yeah, there's another draft pick there and be good for a little bit and then you could do anything you want
There's another draft pick that we're addressing a photo shoot for magazine went by the name of Ricky Williams. True. He turned out okay. Mike Dicca. Yeah.
Yeah. Ricky. Yeah, Mike Dicca got married to Ricky Williams.
Yeah. Yeah. Legally. There's Robbie also in a dress. Ricky's way
hotter than Mike Dicca. I don't know. Dicca was kind of hot
back then. He was in 2000. Dicca was in his prime. Yeah, that
wasn't his prime but like in his prime. That wasn't his prime, but like in his prime, he was a good looking dude.
No, I agree.
He's the strong.
That's what men used to be.
I agree.
I think the 70s, 80s, 90s, Dicca.
That's a guy.
That's a man you can set your watch to.
2000s, Dicca.
He's a little chunkier.
No, thank you.
2010s, Dicca.
2020s, Dicca.
Hot again.
Yeah.
Daddy. Yeah, no. Dic, yeah, no, Dicka was,
that was what like the strong men in the world look like.
They all look like Dicka.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, what else?
What else we got?
They're changing.
You already said, how about that D?
He did, yeah, that's good.
Yeah.
Phoenix Open changed,
they're gonna change the rules because of this weekend. All right, that makes sense not I
Don't like it. That's a good not. Yeah, I fucking got everyone
I think I bet you there was one person in the car was like oh shit
They're in for it not I think you will see a complete operational change of how we manage really on our Friday and Saturday
Not only on the Friday and Saturday, but the entire week. We're very proud of what we've built
We've been the tournament of the year on the PGA Saturday, but the entire week. We're very proud of what we've built. We've been the tournament of the year
on the PGA Tour five of the last seven years,
but we don't like what happened on Saturday.
The players don't like what happened on Saturday.
Our fans don't like what happened on Saturday,
and so nothing is off the table.
If you acted up like that at a live event,
what do you think they do?
Hmm, probably give you a lifetime of contract.
Cut your liver out?
Yeah.
One or the other.
Yeah.
That's kind of the two paths with the live events.
Mm-hmm.
It's the bone saw or you get a billion dollar contract.
We should start our own golf league.
Yeah.
Mandatory drunk fans.
Sure.
We breathalyze you on the way in.
Yeah.
Yeah, you have to be, you cannot get into the golf match
unless it's you blow a point two or higher.
Yep.
I like that. I like that.
I like that a lot.
It would be great.
Okay.
Anything else?
Anything else from anyone about anything?
Literally anything.
We did Jerry Seinfeld as AIDS and the moon landing.
So.
I think we're good.
I think we covered all the sports.
We could talk about anything.
We've talked about all the sports this morning.
I think I saw something about the 49ers players didn't know the rules. Yeah, they do over time. We talk about any we've talked about all the sports. I think I saw something about the 49er put 49ers players
Didn't know the rules. Yeah, they have over time. Yeah, about that memes. I asked max if we talked about I missed it
Yeah, we did we did they did not know the rules it confirmed yet again that we know ball
There's a lot of people are saying we're stupid that the Niners defense was gassed
No, they need to make that the regular season overtime rule. I really don't understand
You know what Jake? I think I agree with you because it's weird having different rules for over times and the excitement factor and the
Strategy and the risk involved is it's so different and it's also more football
That's a gray area
You don't like there is no clear-cut decision on whether or not to get the ball or they should just do college football over time
Yeah, always has been this the superior
Over time by far and there's some people out there that hate college over time
I think it makes a mockery of the game. No, they go out there. They play football. It's good football
You know what they should do? They should do college football over time. No kicking. Yeah
You just like it's just score a touchdown from the 25 like flag football. No, what? No, there's no kicking
Are you saying? No, I'm just saying like no, I'm saying everyone could be able to hit
everyone can hit a field goal in the NFL from 25. So like when
you're playing flag football, it's either a tough you score a
touchdown or you turn the ball over. Yeah, it's no field. Yeah,
it's flag football. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can still punt if you
want to. Yeah, you can punt if you want to be some hilarious
coach. I'm just saying you just only can score touchdown. Todd
bulls would figure out a way
That's it pun in that in that overtime scenario. Yeah, or maybe do the drop kick field goal. Yeah, all right Jake
Everyone loved your halftime boomer congratulations. I'm glad it worked out. It was awesome. Thank you. It was awesome
Appreciate it. What we're gonna get Jake in the booth like the recording booth. Oh
Yeah, yeah, singing some songs song. I'll do it
Okay, we should if we had jake to wet-ass pussy
He should we should actually make a song out of the Ray Allen tweet. Yeah, just called. I'm getting there. Yeah
And we'll auto tune the fuck out of you Jake. We have a song
Don't always do a great song. Yeah
Take on me remix. No, but like we should do an original song.
We'll use that, yeah we'll use that tonight.
That song is a banger.
Oh my God.
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Doing devil worship. Oh, that's my hot seat. Okay. My hot seat is love
What is that?
Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan broke up broke up. No
I don't know if I would happen if they're not gonna make it. I don't I just don't know if anyone is in this world.
I know it's Valentine's Day, but no, just a huge bummer.
I would always look at them be like me and who?
Me and who?
Like MJ and Scotty will talk again?
They're probably like, hell yeah.
Yeah.
No, probably not.
Yeah, no, probably not.
We just nailed that enough
And
Then my cool throne it would be very funny if like
If he like Texan was like, hey man now I get it like I'm sorry. That was kind of fucked up on my part
Yeah, I can see that now. Yeah
We were like Mark or probably Texan Michael to him like yeah, you were right probably shouldn't done that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah good point
Okay, and your cool turn
Jason Kelsey
absolutely blackout drunk at the at the after party not look like a two sodas guy every
Every clip he was wearing the the was it right? Mysterio? Yeah, I think it's a luchador. I think it's Ramis stereo
Yeah, which is a luchador mask. Yeah
Was it a cheese one? I think it was cheese color. It looked like Ray Mysterio mask
He was really he every every video is like the you know, I mean it was crap
Taylor Swift super fans like this is Taylor and Travis walking out and it's literally just Jason Kelsey
blackout drunk like stumbling
over himself on the way out. I did not think that anything Jason Kelsey did for the entirety
of the playoffs was weird but going that hard at a Super Bowl party when you're in the NFL
is a little weird. But he's not in the NFL.'s a party. He's not in the NFL, he's retired. Oh, did he retire?
Oh yeah, he's retired.
I don't think he's retired.
No, you're right, he's retired.
He didn't file his paperwork.
No, he's retired, you're right.
Good point, Hank, he's retired.
Play on, playa.
And he rocks.
I mean, tell me, you didn't watch any of those videos
and be like, I want to party with that guy more
than anything in the world.
No, I was like, that guy probably
forgets to hit the button.
All right, fine. If you're going to say that guy is like me, that's the bests to hit the button. All right, fine.
If you're going to say that guy is like me,
that's the best compliment you've ever given me
in my entire life.
Do you think maybe at the end of the night,
they go back to their hotels,
Jason Kelsey passes out in his bed,
then wakes up in Taylor Swift's bed by accident?
You guys keep doing this.
This is flattering.
This is so flattering.
Now the video of them walking in the hotel
and just pans over it, he literally like falls into a bush
cause he's so drunk he can't walk.
I walked 100 times.
So funny.
Do you think at any point in his career,
Jason Kelsey's been like,
Jill and Hertz I wanna suck your dick.
My girlfriend did text me that video and be like,
okay, I get it now.
Cause I always say that I'm just like Jason Kelsey.
And she was like, the parallels are there. I'm kind of into like I at the start of it
I was like it's a little bit weird that he's going so hard for the chiefs
It is his brother, but at the Super Bowl after-party
That's like have you ever been over to a friend's house who's celebrating a holiday that you don't particularly care about?
Yeah, you just get really wrapped up in it because you want to have fun
Yeah, if you go over to like a really Irish person's family on St.
Patrick's Day, and you're, fuck it, my family's 10% Irish.
No, he was having a great time.
He was, it's his brother.
I get it.
He's the best.
Yeah.
I was more just trying to bother Max,
but I'm too, my brain can't even.
You ended up just complimenting me,
like the best compliment you've ever given me.
Yeah, this might be a reason why we need to sleep.
Max can finally outsmart us.
Fuck.
I slept three hours last night, so.
Okay, uh, yeah, but you, I mean, you're dumb.
Like, we just got into your level.
The thing that's gonna fuck me up for this entire next day
is that the podcast isn't coming out for their full day.
Correct, yeah.
There's gonna be something that happens.
If something happens, we're going to have to breaking news.
I'm going to accidentally schedule the tweet
to go out Tuesday morning for sure.
Yeah.
OK.
P.F. to your hot seat culture.
My hot seat is humanity.
Oh.
I'm putting all of humanity on the hot seat
because I read an article today that the bubonic plague is back.
So they found it in Oregon.
Somebody caught it from their cat.
I don't know that you could.
I don't know. I've never had that. I don't know. Yeah, watch out Matt Iberfluss.
Be real shame if he came down with it. But yeah, that's just maybe a reminder. Don't get a cat.
Another boost are coming. Another boost are coming. They're getting us again.
Oh, isn't that election season? Oh, how about that? Gas price is coming down at just the right time. Oh, interesting. That'd be awesome if Joe Biden was in his office.
He's like, we got to bring the plague back. That's the only way to get reelected.
Wait, what was that?
I was hitting Joe Biden muttering, listen, Jack, I can't do Joe Biden.
Yeah, that was like, yeah, that was like...
I wasn't even trying to do a Joe Biden. That was my Bella check.
Yeah, that was Bella check. I was very good at the White House.
So, Bella check is in the White House. right house or Bella check. I'm Joe Biden
We're we're onto 2024 we're onto Trump. What was the tweet his tweet yesterday after the Super Bowl?
I was dark Brandon. That was the dark Brandon meme. Yeah, that was fucking weird
What does that mean? Yeah, he was saying he was saying
Joe Biden was saying like all the people out there that think that I put together Taylor Swift and and
Travis Kelsey
as a Psyop and that they were going to win the Super Bowl because I want to get reelected.
I did it.
That was my idea and it worked.
That's what he was saying, just like we drew it up.
Okay.
I might have to go out and shoot some free throws, boys.
This is going to be bad because they're going to yell at me so bad if I have to go out and
shoot free throws and I was sitting here.
They're going to be mad.
What's going on?
They're getting there. Switching
back and forth. Yeah, that's our song. Yeah, they're getting there. My cool throne is Taco Bell.
Taco Bell on the cool throne because they did a hilarious awesome menu explanation where it was
like the unveiling like Apple does for their new products where they have all that weird Apple fan
boys and Jeff D. Lo in the audience just screaming themselves
Yep, and Taco Bell did one for the new menu items, which was awesome
It was this dude giving like a Ted talk in front of a massive audience showing the new products are coming out
Let me just say that the cheese at Crunchwrap looks elite. Yes, it looks I without tasting it
I can tell you that's probably on my Mount Rushmore of Taco Bell foods
Yes, I think probably wouldn't be on Hanks because his Mount Rushmore Taco Bell foods sucks
But it all Taco Bell foods are Mount Rushmore yeah, but a giant cheese
They invented a big-ass cheese it to put in the middle of a crunch wrap just when you thought science couldn't go any further
Yeah, it looks incredible and they've got I think they got like a Baja blast pie
Yeah, oh, and they got the new green salsa.
We gotta go out there.
Where are they down to?
They're, I think Dave just hit.
I think Dave just hit the 30.
Let's go.
We gotta go.
We gotta go.
Okay, we're back and holy shit.
So if you're following along,
we just ran out of the room in the middle of the podcast.
It was three o'clock in the morning
because we're doing this 41 free throw challenge
and it was my turn.
I was up on 39 and 40.
Well, I choked.
Miss 39, back to zero.
We're now sitting here.
Seven hours later, I just hit 39 and 40, Dave hit 41,
we're free, we did it.
We did it Joe.
We did it, incredible, PFT, incredible rebounding,
Jake got the ringer to show up, Max, memes,
the boys stayed up, everyone stayed up all night
throughout the whole challenge.
It was really team effort for everyone.
No one slept.
I actually, so I walked into the studio
because I had to grab my cell phone
in the middle of the shooting
and I saw a mass over in the corner kind of huddled up
and I looked over and it was a body.
It was a human body and it was covered in a blanket.
And when I say covered in a blanket,
I mean it was covered in a blanket, head to toe,
like blanket, you know what, it was Hank.
But at first I thought I walked into the heavens gate cult.
Yeah.
And I thought that it was just filled with bodies
because all I saw was Nike sticking out of the bottom.
Yeah.
But no, it was our sweet dear Henry Lockwood
over there passed out of the corner.
I also came in here and I, I, what?
You are thinking of the wrong person. What? No. That was memes that was in the corner. I also came in here and I, I sh, what? You are thinking of the wrong person.
What, no?
That was memes that was in the corner.
That was memes.
Wait, memes in the corner?
Yes.
Hank was on the couch.
Hank was on the couch and memes was in the corner.
Oh!
Memes of the past out in the corner.
Memes, memes, you freaked, you sleep like that every night?
No, the lights were on.
Wait, I didn't know there were two bodies in here.
I came in, I just saw Hank.
I actually, Hank was so out cold
because I came in to get my keys
and I had my cell phone flashlight
and I turned it and it literally shone right in Hank's face,
like directly in Hank's face.
Did not flinch at all.
Little baby just kept on sleeping.
Yeah, that was crazy.
I don't know really what to think.
We have still not slept.
Well, these are some of my favorite shows
because we just kind of get drunk off not sleeping.
Yeah.
So the shows get loopy.
We make less sense.
Maybe we're smarter.
Yeah, maybe we're smarter.
And so it was a crazy, crazy 16 hours.
So what was the final shot counter? Jake, do you have it? I'll look. Maybe we're smarter and so it was a crazy, crazy 16 hours.
So what was the final shot counter?
Jake, do you have it?
I'll look.
Wait, I have it, I have it.
It was 7,608 shots, 16 hours.
It was hell.
We were just out there grinding.
I think I came close to making 1,000 free throws.
I think I attempted like 2,000.
I think I came close to making a thousand free throws. I think I attempted like 2000.
So before 39 and 40, so I was terrible.
My body's broken.
I was trying to hit the first two of the whole thing
so that I didn't have to hit the pressure shots.
Unfortunately, I had to leave for 35 minutes
to go get my son from my house and bring him to school.
And then when I got back, literally walked in the door
and we were like at like 35.
Yeah.
And I knew that it was gonna be me.
And I had already missed it.
Last time you were like 10 minutes ago in the podcast,
I already missed 39 and 40.
I was basically shitting myself like, how could I do this?
Did you have to explain to your son
at all what you were doing?
Did you try and like, No, so, sorry I haven't been home son.
No.
Daddy's had to hit some free throws.
Daddy was working the line.
Well, it was important that he got to school
so that he could get education and learn
that don't do this.
Be a real contributing member of society, not a podcaster.
I would say the drive to school,
I think I told my son probably 15 times
that I love him so much because I was like,
dad's going back to jail in a minute.
So I was like, I may never see you again.
I kept on being like, you know I love you so much.
Like I love you so much.
You know I love you, but you also know
that daddy's an influencer.
I was like, these five minutes I have with my son here
are the most precious five minutes
because I'm going directly back to jail
and I may never get out.
It was a good time with the boys though.
It was a really good time.
We're saying that now.
The vibes, yeah.
They were high.
We had a great time.
Everybody involved was excited.
We were into it.
Great camaraderie, team building.
Wouldn't trade it for the world.
No.
I'm so fucking glad it's done.
I'm so glad it's done.
We're all the Popeyes meme,
the exhausted chicken sandwich worker.
I thought there was no chance we were ever gonna get out.
I thought we were just gonna be fucked.
It would've been-
It would've been-
It also wouldn't have been funny if we were not allowed
to leave the room, eat or drink,
and we all just died in that room.
Chasing.
We're gonna make free throws.
Well, there was, I mean, listen,
I wanna take a break from these challenges
after Needle and a Haystack.
This was dumber.
By the way, by the way,
Needle and a Haystack was stupid as shit.
This was a million times dumber.
But I will say that these challenges,
they're so, so like taxing on just your
mentals and everything, but there is a part of you that
like just hanging out with the boys.
I think we ordered 17 different types of food.
Yeah, we got chicken, we got a bunch of McDonald's.
We got McDonald's breakfast and McDonald's dinner
within an hour of each other.
And we got blizzards and we got everything.
It was not fun, but it was fun.
So when we started the stream,
it was myself, Nick and KB doing the broadcast
of the event.
And we were like, yeah, this is a good idea.
Maybe it'll be over in like an hour or two.
You don't have a lot to commentate
and talk about during a free throw shooting contest.
Especially after it reaches hour number four
and then KB had to go to the hospital for butt surgery
So Nick had to drive him so fortunately they had to leave damn thoughts and prayers to KB
He's getting a butt transplant today. He's getting the Brazilian
Okay, so thank you everyone for watching that was incredible
everyone we had like
20,000 people watching it four in the morning. It was nuts
So always always incredible to watch all the people
like tuning in and just being like, holy fuck.
Shout out Pat Bev.
Yes.
He was-
He's got a game.
He's got a game.
He has, he's-
He had a game and has a game.
He's in between two games.
Yeah.
Literally in between two games.
Yeah, he had 24 hours in between two games.
He came down Chicago to pump up the boys.
Yeah.
So appreciate Pat Bev.
Okay, my hot seat, what was it supposed to be?
An ice spice?
I didn't prepare.
Is she on the hot seat?
Debo's on the hot seat.
Who?
Debo's Samuel's, Fudger Cox owned his ass on Instagram.
Oh, I wanted to tell.
I just know that you said, you said ice spicepice said, no, that's my hot seat,
don't ruin it, but I don't have a hot seat.
It's more hot, hot, hot seat God.
God.
Icepice was doing devil worshiping sounds.
Gross.
Was she doing devil or was she doing the rock?
I think devil.
Yeah.
Wait, what happened with Debo?
After the Niners game, Fletcher Cox had an Instagram story that said 19 problems is
Debo's Instagram handle keep the Eagles out your mouth BOE I don't know what that means I still
got some I still got some y'all ain't got yeah I've been holding on this eat a dick
wait this is sad max why I love that why is why is Fletcher Cox going at Debo?
Cuz fuck Debo Debo cuz he said that if they had their quarterback
They would have beaten you guys last year now. He's talking. No, he's talking shit
He said the secondary trash which it was Fletcher Cox is like yo, bitch
We lost to the chiefs by less points than you know
He's saying that he has to boring. Yeah, but you guys went to overtime. He was saying that he had a Super Bowl ring.
Yeah.
OK.
And then he doesn't.
It was just fair.
Yeah.
That is fair.
He does have a Super Bowl ring.
Make a quote card out of that.
Yeah, bitch, we lost the Super Bowl
by less points than you.
That's not what you did.
Dash.
Literally.
Fletcher Cox, probably.
By one point less.
That's not.
That's just not a quote.
That's not a quote.
I'm paraphrasing.
That's not a quote.
It's work. All right. My cool turn is vacation. We can go on our vacations. not a quote. That's not a quote. I'm paraphrasing. That's not a quote, it's work.
All right, my cool turn is vacation.
We can go on our vacations.
Let's go.
That was scary.
So pretty much the second that last shot went in,
I got a notification saying you can check in for your flight.
And I thought to myself right before Dave hit that shot,
well, I'm not going to use that.
I'm not going to click that link.
Listen, this vacation, I need it so, so bad.
And the fact that it was in jeopardy,
whew, really, really makes us embrace,
this might be the best vacation ever.
Yeah, let's have the best vacation of the week ever, guys.
Yeah, because it really, we almost didn't have it.
We were that close.
Alright, Jake, your hot seat, cool throne.
My hot seat is people who don't think
that people can hit 41 free throws in a row.
Yeah, facts. Sean Quigley. Losers.
They were wrong. Yeah.
Even if it took 60 miles. Big wrong.
I'm on team Kristen Ducechek.
Fuck wigs. Yeah. Fuck wigs.
Yeah. My cool throne is a friend of the program, recurring guest, J.J. Redick.
He got an in-season promotion and he's taking over for Doc Rivers. He will be calling the NBA finals. Oh, that's pretty cool. With Mike
Breen and Doris Burke. That's a big step up for JJ. Also, big step underneath a
much bigger, not a microphone, magnifying glass.
Microscope. Yeah. We'll be nice to him. That's a great booth. Was the Jeff
Fingundi firing the weirdest, dumbest thing ever in retrospect? Well, it's part Microscope. Yeah, we'll be nice. That's a great booth. Yeah, was the Jeff Van Gundy
Firing the weirdest dumbest thing ever in retrospect old part of the espn layoffs. Yeah, I understand but like Jeff Van Gundy
Everyone likes Jeff Van Gundy. What good for Celtics. Why?
He's a coach on staff now
And what was like an assistant? He's a- Mark Jackson, I don't really-
A visor.
Well, the only reason I like Mark Jackson-
Visor.
Is to knock it out of the park, no disrespect.
The only reason I like Mark Jackson
is because it's soothing to hear him say,
Jeff Van Gundy.
Yeah, hand down, man down.
Jeff Van Gundy.
Jeff Van Gundy.
So now JJ Reddick's gonna just be like,
they're in zone Doris.
That sounds good.
That's a good catch for his.
That was some great high screen action Doris.
Oh, sick.
Yeah, happy for JJ.
I'm JJ.
I'm also gonna miss Mark Jackson just because like,
he really dumbed it down to a level
that was even too dumb for most people that were watching
Yeah, JG Reddix. He might be too intelligent. Yeah, for sure. He's a smart guy. Dookie
Dookie
Okay, he's also got that championship pedigree at Duke when all those natty's there. Yeah true. Oh
Damn
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Okay, here he is, RG3.
Ooh.
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest,
Heisman Trophy winner, Washington Redskine,
now Commanders. You can see him on TV all the time with his takes. It is Robert Griffin
III, RG3. We've been looking forward to this for a very long time, so thank you for coming
by. No problem. No problem. We appreciate it. I am, PFT probably has a lot more detailed
questions because he was, obviously you were his quarterback for a while
But I'll start with an easy one. Okay
Can you still play in the NFL? Yes. Are you retired?
Technically no, okay. I have not put in my paperwork or you know
Signed my anything with like the trust or anything like that. I've done that on purpose.
Yeah.
Because I didn't want to have to do it twice, but no, I just train every week
like I'm a player.
And then if I get the call, I'm ready to roll.
I got calls this year.
I just it wasn't worth it.
You guys know how this goes.
At some point, it does become a business for you too.
And what I've been able to do on ESPN and I got to like make the right
business moves and decisions. But I can still play. I still want to
play. I'm not afraid to say that and I encourage everybody out
there to you know, don't be afraid to talk about your dreams.
Yeah, people laugh at you. I definitely I am retired from the
NFL. Yes, retired. Okay, all right. If I get a call like I'm
ready to go. My legs still good. I'm good 30. But yeah, you were
telling me that the Jets,
you were like, if they call me,
you would have picked up that call.
Correct, it was the Jets and the Browns, honestly.
Now, I actually, I put out a post about why the Browns
should have signed me, and then they went
signed Joe Flacco, and it was like,
well that's a pretty good signing, you know?
Joe Flacco, Super Bowl MVP, got a lot of respect
for the guy.
So I wasn't mad about that.
And then you see so many guys went down this year,
from a starting quarterback perspective.
It was crazy.
It was kind of wild, but then those teams
have to make a decision.
They could go after a guy like myself.
They can go get a guy like Cam Newton.
But how long are you making that commitment?
And are you really trying to?
Were they really trying to win games?
It was really the question.
So the Jets was an interesting one.
I thought for sure they should have went and go get Joe.
Like Joe was just there.
Like go get him, pick him up and give him an opportunity.
Look what he did with the Browns,
but some teams were willing to lose this year and it's okay.
So you're so fast.
You still got the legs, still got the arm.
Yeah, I ran a 4-2-8.
You beat that eagle, beat the bird. You get a bird. 4-2-5 last year. So you're faster than you've ever been.
I'm faster than I've ever been. Was that hand-tied? It was hand-tied. Okay, what was the wind like that day?
The wind was horrible. Okay. It was a headwind. Okay. It was crazy. On a track? It was not on a
track, it was on a football field. But it was, they actually went in and recorded or timed it on the camera and then it was a 438
Okay, so alright, so we'll go for 2 we'll go 438. I'm cool with that listen that's faster than I've ever been
To be honest. Yeah, I appreciate what can you run a 40 in?
Oh, I don't know probably about a minute and a half
I did one I did one two weeks ago for an advertisement I ran a 4-4
Okay, hand up it was less it was 39
39 yards it was 39 yards
34 39 yards you can see it you're on 4-4 Harbor was it was instructing me you as my coach he timed it
4-4 it might have been like 30 yards. We've all had we've all had a coach that's like, you know, try to boost us a little bit.
Oh yeah, you threw that 75 yards.
You're special.
Yeah, it was like a 35 yard throw.
Uh huh.
No, I mean.
Question I have for you though, before we keep going,
you mentioned the name, right?
Yeah.
How do you feel about the team name?
Commanders?
I think it's a terrible name.
I think it's an awful name, man.
Like nobody was excited about it when it came out. I instantly wished it was still football team like it makes me
I agree it makes me miss football team the football team felt more exotic. Yes, and I think yeah
I think yeah, it was like the simplicity of it actually was cool
Even though people may phone a minute first right? Who do you play for the football team?
But it's like right, but then it's what you are you think of like European soccer, right right?
Commanders, it's like okay. We're the commies. are. You think of like European soccer. Right. Right. Right. Commanders is like,
okay, we're the commies. Yeah, commies were the commies. Great.
And it's so weird, like with the football team, you can talk
yourself into you can be like, yeah, football, this is a tough
masculine sport. We don't need a cartoon bird. You know, as our
mascot to we're football team. No pigeons. No pigeons. No
pigeons. So yeah, I don't I don't like that. I think that
they're probably going to change it back. Really? Well, not
maybe not back to football team,
maybe for like a year of football team,
but I think it's not going to be Commander's long term,
because if you've seen Josh Harris,
I kept an eye on this all year.
Josh Harris, he always wears the Washington hat, right?
With a W on it?
Yes.
I've never seen him wear commanders on his shirts,
and he always wears like a generic burgundy sweater,
or a burgundy polo.
And he's like going out of his way not to wear that word.
So I think he said he's been on it like this is he's been on this is my super he's been
watching.
I think I've seen everything he wears.
I don't know if it's a conspiracy theory.
I think you might be some truth to what you're saying.
Yes.
I was team Red Wolves.
I don't know what I like.
I think the hogs.
I think the hogs. red hogs would be great
Hogs play football. Yes, they do. You can see it and it's into the name
Yeah, it's like I got a hogs like the offensive line right there
So like I thought that was a perfect, you know segue into that name, but they
They went with commanders. Oh, Dan Snyder said I'm gonna I'm gonna get you guys one more time
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
This commander's name.
That was his double middle finger on the way out.
I'm gonna give you guys the worst name
in the history of sports.
Enjoy it, assholes.
Now, Stephen A's calling us the Comma Dores on the first stage.
Easy like Sunday morning.
Yeah, there you go.
So I do wanna talk about your history with the Redskins.
So when you were drafted,
I'm not exaggerating when I say this
You made me fall back in love with football again. Wow your rookie year
I was at your first game in New Orleans and it was cool because like in New Orleans you got family from there and
The Saints fans are obviously, you know, they care a lot about their team
They do but after the game
I was just like I was on cloud nine because I'm like holy shit I got a quarterback for the next 12 15 years and like I could see everything going really well, right and
We walked into this Dacri bar afterwards and it's filled with Saints fans, right?
Okay, and so it's me and two my buddies were the only white guys in there
We walk into the Dacri bar and it was a record scratch moment because everyone's wearing Saints uniforms
We're wearing red skin stuff and they just stare at us,
and we're like, I don't know if this is a cool place to be.
And then they started clapping.
And then everyone started standing up and clapping.
And they're like, we love Robert, he's got family here,
he played a hell of a game, we have to take our hats off.
And so at that point I was like, you know what?
I've been through a lot of bad football with this team.
But now it's like things are fun again.
Right.
And so that that rookie year meant a lot.
I wouldn't have started writing about football if it wasn't for that because I saw people
like starting to hate you.
And so I started that Twitter account in a way.
So it was making fun of like random internet commenters.
Right.
And I was like, I'm going to figure out how to hate Robert Griffin the most.
Like making fun of those guys.
He definitely did.
Yeah, but so it was a satirical take
on some of the dumbest people online.
And I was like going over the top
and I remember at one point you blocked me.
I did, I definitely blocked him.
Yeah.
I definitely blocked him.
Cause I think you unveiled like your new logo. And I was like, you know who else had a logo?
Hitler.
Like, not an actor.
I remember that.
Yes.
It was pretty wild.
Yeah.
So we got off to a rocky start, and I was like, damn,
my favorite football player in the world.
OK, let me put it this way.
Let me attack this in every angle.
So first of all
You were getting really emotional. Yeah, I was cuz it was like it was it did make me fall back in love with football
Yeah, you get emotional there and can I give you a hug like can we hug it out?
You didn't mean to call you Hitler
Now PFT knows this cuz we've been talking recently over the past couple years and like you mentioned
about the blocking.
Really early in my career was like the first time
when like players would really have been exposed
to social media in a drastic way.
And some of that stuff can get to you.
So like for me it was like, all right,
this guy's like going way over the top,
trying to comment on every single thing and every move that I'm kind of making.
Let me just block him, not because I hate the guy, but just because I just don't want
to see it.
You know, like let me just move past that.
But you bring up the Saints game and the fact that a lot of people don't know that my family
is from New Orleans.
Like my dad has seven brothers and sisters, my mom and dad were both born and raised in
New Orleans, Louisiana.
So that game meant a lot to me to be able to start my career there. My mother and father's and sisters, my mom and dad were both born and raised in New Orleans, Louisiana.
So that game meant a lot to me
to be able to start my career there.
And kind of what you talked about,
it was a little bit of the hope
that like the whole city of D.C.
felt when I first came there
and was able to play at a high level.
And that hurt me the most.
Like, I kind of felt like I had let the fans down
by the time, you know, with all the injuries and everything that happened there in DC.
I felt like I had let some of my teammates down, like London Fletcher.
I've told the story before.
He was my locker mate.
And he came back in 2013 just to try to win a Super Bowl.
Like he knew he was done playing.
Like he couldn't do it at the level that he wanted to anymore, he came back and we bombed that year think we were 4 and 12
So kind of that hope that you're saying that you got from from me being there
It wasn't just from me
Obviously was also from the team and what we had put together that year in 2012
Alfred Morris at running back. I mean you talk about Pierre Garcon at wide receiver. We have Fred Davis
Who was balling out at tight and even Logan Paul Logan Paulson was catching some touchdowns for us there.
So I think that part of it hurt me the most was I felt like I let you guys down.
So that hug was as much for me as it was for you.
But I move past that now.
And obviously we're doing, you know, great things now.
How much do you think things are gone different if the Redskins at the time
just had a good
grass management?
Oh, I mean the grass is horrible. I wasn't the only guy that got hurt there. Yeah. Yeah, I believe I think Reggie
Either Reggie Bush got hurt there
Adrian Peterson, I know got hurt there. Yep.
Joe Burrow Joe Burrow got hurt there like there's
There was such an emphasis on making money right that
There was such an emphasis on making money that they were gonna rent that stadium out for concerts and everything in between and the grass management
wasn't that great. It was like we were playing in the sand.
Yeah, no I remember the slow-mo's of that playoff game and you're trying to cut and
it's like that's a lot of sand that's getting kicked up. Before the game
you could, somebody did like a walk across the field and it was sand that had just been painted green.
It was like, this is not a good environment
for a football game, especially with a quarterback
that's got, it was an MCL, right?
I had an LCO.
LCO.
So the first injury when Halody Nata literally
destroyed my leg on that hit was an LCO injury,
which is this ligament that goes along the side.
I still can't feel that to this day.
But then I ended up tearing my ACL.
Maybe, I think I tore my ACL in the first quarter.
And I obviously played for the rest of the game, which I shouldn't have done.
Should have been pulled out.
I should have pulled myself out too, but we're warriors.
We were out there, it's fight or flight, we're gonna fight.
But that injury certainly set my career back,
obviously altered my career in many ways,
and I shouldn't have played in 2013 at all.
Do you, looking back on it,
I remember you did the all-in for week one,
going into 2013.
To me, when I saw that I was like,
I hope he doesn't come back early
because of part of this marketing initiative.
Because I think it was with Gatorade or something
at the time, right?
It was with Adidas.
Adidas, yeah.
It felt like it put more pressure on you to come back.
But a lot of people said that, but I didn't necessarily
feel that way.
Name me one player who got hurt at the end of the year
who wasn't all in to come back and play week one
the next year.
Like the marketing campaign that was put on by Adidas,
I didn't feel like it put any more pressure on me.
It's just when you're the starting quarterback
in Washington DC and the team just won the division
for the first time and I don't know,
was it 13 years or something like that in 2012?
Yeah, everything you do at that point
is going to be magnified. So was Carson
Wentz all in when he got hurt for week one? Yeah, he was all in and he played. Yeah. Was
Joe Burrow all in for week one when he came back after his ACL? Hell yeah. And he played.
I shouldn't have played, but it was because my knee injury was a lot more complex and
significant than even I knew at the time. But that campaign had nothing to do with it.
So I appreciate you bringing that up.
Cause I haven't really talked about it,
but like there's not a marketing campaign out there
that's gonna make a player go play
because they feel like, well it's darn
if I'm all in for week one and I don't play week one,
was I really all in?
Like no, like everybody's all in
to come back from their injuries.
It just so happened that people last onto that,
I feel like, because I was a quarterback
for the Redskins at the time.
So the knee injury, like was there ever a point,
maybe a year or two down the line where like,
wait, my knee is never gonna feel like 100%?
Could you feel like how different it was?
You're like, my superpowers have been diminished
a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, superpowers.
We all feel like we're superheroes.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
We all feel like we're superheroes.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's kind of funny when you don't play.
Like you reevaluate everything.
So 2015, right?
I got the Stinger in the preseason game.
Got the, they called it a concussion, wasn't a concussion.
Got cleared from the concussion, then unclear,
that's a whole other bag of worms.
Conspiracy theory that we can unpack at some point,
but that year I didn't play a snap.
So I actually went back and I watched the 2013 tape
and I was just like, oh my gosh,
like I had the big knee brace on,
I wasn't as mobile as I had been before.
Was it Texans week one?
Exactly.
It was just not, it wasn't Texans week.
Texans was 2014.
That was week one.
It was the Philadelphia Eagles.
Remember came out, Mike Vic was the quarterback
for the Eagles, we came out with the flag
and it was a great thing.
I mean we were back, let's go do it.
And then we got Molly Wops.
Yeah Chip Kelly changed the NFL for one game.
He changed the NFL for one game.
100%.
Yeah, one game.
It was the, it was the good year.
I remember after that game, I was like,
how is anyone gonna defend this?
And I was like, well, we'll just defend it.
So, so when I, I mean, listen,
you can't trade away all your best players
and still be successful.
So getting ready to shady and what, to Sean Jackson and then Mike, like, that's not another
way to win games.
We're gonna get slower.
Yeah, we're gonna play here.
Let's get rid of all of our dynamic players.
We're gonna play fast, but we're gonna run the offense through Riley Cooper.
Oh, man, Riley Cooper, that's a great name.
That's a great name.
But no, the whole thing of going back and watching that in 2015, like let me see it for myself.
Like I had watched that tape already,
but I've got a boatload of time.
I'm not just breaking down the team we're playing
to help Kirk Cousins in the meeting room,
but I'm like, well, what else can I do to try to get better?
Let me go back and watch some of these things,
watch some of my mistakes.
And I just came away from watching that tape in 2013,
honestly disgusted.
That's interesting because we've talked to players before
where we've had that same kind of question,
like when did you know that it was different,
whether it be injury or age?
And a lot of them have said something similar
that you don't really know while you're playing,
but when you watch it, you're like, who is that guy?
Who is that guy?
Yeah, like that's not me.
And I figured out a way to manage it
and become somewhat efficient there in 2013.
Nowhere near as well as we played in 2012.
But just going back and watching it, I was like, yeah, I shouldn't have played at all in 2013.
Gave myself a full, a full year, you know, of not just watching tape and watching the team
and getting, building those bonds with my teammates
as opposed to, I was on the side working out
for what felt like eight months.
Didn't get to practice, didn't get to really do
a whole bunch of stuff.
And that doesn't really put you in the best spot
to go out and be successful,
but the bottom line is I did play, right?
And what you put on tape is how they're going to judge you
and that's why it went that way
So then you show up in 2014 and now you bring in Jay Gruden as the head coach
And I think I got hurt that game like first game of the year
Yeah, and I'm out for eight games or whatever it may be like that's tough
You know you're hurt. You're not available. You're not getting to develop
You're not getting to play you're not getting to build that trust And I came to that realization in 2017 when I was out of the league.
So you realize things when you have unlimited time on your hands, you can go back and reflect
and be like, damn, okay, maybe some of the stuff that happened was just like, damn, I
wish that would happen a different way.
But the bottom line is it didn't work out in Washington because I just couldn't stay
healthy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Going back to your college career, I guess your high school career before that
Is it true that Mac Brown recruited you to be a safety at Texas? Yeah So I actually called Mac a Mac game this year with Drake May in North Carolina against Clemson
And I talked to him about it and he's got a different recollection of how it all went down
But the bottom line is at that time in 20 2007 2008 like if Texas offered you a scholarship
Like you went.
Yeah.
There was no debating.
They walk in the building and they go to your coach
and they say, hey, we wanna offer this guy as an athlete
because that's what he offered me as.
He offered me as an athlete.
If you don't take this offer, it's off the table.
I said, well, coach, I wanna play quarterback.
So I'm gonna decline the athlete offer here
and they walk, no, it wasn't Mac.
It was the recruiting coordinator who I don't know his name.
I'm sure he doesn't work with Mac anymore either after all the quarterback said he missed out on
So it's like yeah, he walks out and he said well offers off the table they weren't even there to offer me
They were there for a guy named Tanner Brock
That's a great name who it's unbelievable and he was a linebacker. Yeah, okay
So middle linebacker is a sophomore his brother was our tight end great player went to TCU
No, there's not Logan Rock. That's a great. It's a great time
So they show up and they're like hey, who's this quarterback? And I'm like awesome. Yeah, we think you can be an all-american
safety
Okay, well, thanks coach. I'll pass on that.
But Mack was great about it.
If the transfer portal today was there in 2008, 2009,
I don't wanna say I don't know if I'd have stayed at Baylor,
but Mack offered me a scholarship in the middle of the field,
my freshman year in college.
Wow.
We had Texas, Texas Highland Rank,
they had Colt McCoy, right?
We had them 20 to 20 at halftime.
Now they kicked our ass, they beat us 42 to 20,
we didn't score a point in the second half.
But in the middle of field, after the game,
Mack comes up to me and said,
we really missed on you, didn't we?
I'm like, well I'm not gonna be like,
yeah you missed on me, I'm like, oh thanks coach,
I appreciate the love.
And he says, you wanna come to Texas,
you can come anytime you want.
Wow.
That did feel good. It did feel good. And I told my coach and the coach said yeah, fuck him
Yeah, yeah, I'll be pissed off if I were him. Yeah, like mind your own players, buddy
I mean you but you know staying at Baylor was great. You win a Heisman
You know only Baylor played a win a Heisman it feels like that program from like what you did there
Their growth from there, I mean,
don't they have a new stadium and everything?
I'm not saying it's directly from you,
but it feels like a lot of it is because
of what you did at Baylor.
Yeah, I mean, I tell guys this all the time,
I went to Baylor thinking,
Baylor had just got beat 76 to 14 by Oklahoma State.
So when I committed to Baylor,
everyone in my high school was like,
yo, what are you doing?
You got Texas, you got A&M, you got Oregon,
you've got Florida State, all these schools coming after you.
Why are you going to Baylor?
And I'm like, well, I kinda wanna play all three sports.
I wanna play basketball, run track and play football.
And Coach Browse at the time told me,
say you can come here and do something
that's never been done before.
And he believed that we could win the Heisman
and that we could do all the things that we did.
So the gratitude I have towards Baylor
is more about the guys that were there
when I first got there.
I show up, I'm fast.
Everyone knows I'm a fast guy.
And I'm like the 20th fastest guy on the team.
That's crazy.
And as a, I went to college at 17.
So as a 17 year old, I'm like, holy cow, these guys are super talented.
Like, am I going to be able to be that guy at the college level? And I'm at Baylor and they just got their asses whipped by 50.
Yeah.
And what I learned was that in college, there's, there, all these colleges have great players.
Yeah.
It's about building that culture of winning. And it took us time to do that, to go from what we were doing
to now seeing what Baylor has became over those years
and then what it's been up and down
over the last couple of years
has been nothing but enjoyable, but it wasn't just me.
Well, yeah, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say
that you had a big part in building that.
Yeah, you put a statue there.
You put a statue of you in front of the stadium.
Not the coolest statue,
the coolest statue you ever had was a subway one.
Oh my God, you remember that?
You put a subway statue?
Oh yeah, the coolest statue ever had was a subway one. Oh my god
That was weird
Let's be honest here, okay
Yeah
My hair was like jalapenos
I think I'm like olives olives was like it was the hair of the fish as honestly unbelievable honestly unbelievable because they told me, like, hey, we got a surprise for you.
And I'm like, what is it?
It's a sandwich that looks like you.
It's like, OK, guys, well, I'm not eating it.
I'm not eating this sandwich.
But no, that was an interesting time.
Obviously, we're all content creators.
We're all in this space.
They were definitely searching and trying
to find something that hit, and it not hit. Yeah. It's not hit. Just trying to get people to stop talking about Jared. They're like, I were definitely searching and trying to find something that hit and it not hit.
Yeah, trying to get people to stop talking about Jared.
They're like, I know what we can do to make the ugliest RG3.
We don't want to talk about that.
It worked, which they shouldn't, right?
But let's be honest here.
But yeah, let's get them to talk about RG3 and the sandwich that looks like him.
My face was made out of sourdough or something like that. There's a lot of stuff that I like to talk about about those Redskins teams
because again it was a very impactful time for me as a fan and there was so
much being written about you it was like they they realized that anything that
they wrote about Robert Griffin and the Washington Post like it's gonna be a big
story no matter what and there was a lot of back and forth back and forth about
what happened after that that rookie year where you wanted to protect yourself
You didn't want to run the ball and after getting hit by Halody Nott
I would you know your leg wraps around the side of his body. I think it's a pretty reasonable
Thing to say, but there's a lot of back-and-forth of like I want to be a pocket passer
Yep, and then Mike Shanahan didn't want to adjust his offense, or Kyle didn't want to adjust his offense.
And I don't, honestly, I have no idea what the truth was.
So like after that season, what were the conversations
like with you and the coaching staff?
Yeah, you want the truth.
The truth, capital T.
You want the truth or the capital T.
Stand on business.
Stand on business.
All right, so listen, a lot of the stuff,
and when I say a lot like if somebody said hey RG 33 was was 14 of I don't know
22 for 105 yards a touchdown in a pick like that's a fact
Right, that's that's in the stat sheets. You can't argue that now
You can manipulate or talk about how you feel that person played in that in that game or whatever
But once it became like personal attacks,
that's where it was like for me and my family,
I was like, I don't know how to handle this.
Cause I had never experienced anything quite like that.
So to your point, where there's a guy like Rob Parker
who actually worked at ESPN at the time,
you know, saying what he said about me,
calling me a cornball brother, which is just ridiculous.
But, and making claims about like, you know,
my political affiliations or whatever it may be,
it was like, it was open season on,
let's try to dissect Robert Griffin III
in as many possible ways as we can.
So to answer your question flat out about Mike and Kyle,
it wasn't about me wanting to be a pocket passer.
Name a quarterback who does not want to be a pocket passer.
Like that's not, it wasn't a valid statement.
The issue there in Washington
wasn't about pocket passer or running.
It was more so about what are we asking from me?
You know, I had this conversation with Mike Vic
on my show on RG3 and the Ones,
and they said, let's say we call quarterback draw
on third and 15, just tell me what you're trying
to accomplish.
Like, do you want me to go get 16 yards?
Right.
Because if you want me to go get 16 yards,
I'm gonna go get 16 yards.
And in my rookie year, I took a bunch of hits
on those types of plays going to get those 16 yards.
So after the season, we had a conversation we talked about
and they said, no, we just want you to get
positive yards and protect yourself.
So the conversation wasn't, hey, let's not run this play.
Let's not run that play.
The conversation was about coach,
I wanna know what you're asking from me.
And once I know that, boom, I can protect myself and I can do that.
Now what I will say is that when it comes to coaches and players, probably you guys
as well, everybody's got an ego.
And at the end of the day, it's about managing those and having good relationships.
And for whatever reason, because of the injury, because of the injury, it made Mike and Kyle
look a certain way, and they
did not like that. And there was honestly nothing I could do about that. Immediately
after the game, I'm sure you guys can probably find it somewhere, they asked me, hey, did
you want to come out the game? And I had Mike's back, and I said, no, I wanted to play. I
wanted to be out there. I wanted to do this. I wanted to do that. But because of that onslaught of, it was bad.
I remember that onslaught of the media attacking
your head coach, even though I had his back and said,
no, I wanted to do this, I wanted to do that.
It didn't, that burned the relationship really, really bad.
And it made it to the point where it was like,
all right, F that guy.
And I didn't like that.
Mike Shanahan was my dream coach.
Yeah.
I was a Bronco fan growing up, right?
John L. Way, Shannon Sharp, I knew the damn center.
Tom Nalen, okay?
Terrell Davis, Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey.
Like I knew, you know, exactly, Mark Schlaerth.
I knew these guys like the back of my hand.
So when I got drafted to Washington, I'm like, oh my God, Mike Shanahan's gonna be my coach.
This is incredible. And because of that whole injury thing, as you guys have probably come to find out in any industry,
it can become a huge blame game. And that blame game, and then you figure out that there's issues with the owner and the head coach and I didn't know that shit when I got to DC
Yeah, listen, I got to the I didn't even know that the Redskins at the time played in Maryland
Yeah, yeah practice in Virginia play in Maryland. They fly we flying from the draft and they we landed Dulles Airport
Yeah, right in the private jet
I don't fly private a lot by the way
But in the private jet and they're like, yeah, we're in, Virginia, and I'm like our dullest, you know at the airport
I'm like, why are we in Virginia? Why are we in northern Virginia? Oh, well, we actually practice in Ashburn, Virginia
Mm-hmm. I said, okay. Well, where's the stadium? Oh, we play in Landover, Maryland
Right. I might so we're the Washington Redskins, but we don't do anything in Washington
Right, you know, so like I didn't know a lot of things when I first came into the league
But going through that process has actually helped me in this part of my life.
Right, knowing how to tell guys stories, knowing how to respond, how to talk to the media.
So like I'm not bitter about anything. I learned from all the mistakes that I made. I learned from the things that happened to me and I try to push it forward.
There's a lot of stuff that was going on behind the scenes before you ever got there that I feel like led to some
of the stuff that ended up blowing up in the media.
And honestly, I do blame Dan Snyder for your injury.
Like I blame the condition of that field at the time
was like unplayable.
So like it's, there's no, I don't think there's animosity
from the Washington fan base towards you.
I think like you, you had an incredible year
when you were healthy.
And then everything just blew up after that.
But it was all because of that one incident.
I was gonna say just on the coaches,
you went from Mike Shannon, who was your dream coach
to your real dream coach and Jake Rudin.
Has that beef been squashed?
No, no, listen.
Oh, we can still active beef.
I like that.
No, no, there's no active beef.
And to be quite honest, I'll answer your point about,
and then I'll get to Jay.
Yeah.
Because they see everyone wants to talk about the Jay thing.
So.
Well, you're just talking about dream coaches.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We might as well talk about G groups.
We might as well talk about G groups.
Stop.
So that was what I didn't understand.
Yeah.
Was that before I got, like guys,
I was a Washington Redskins historian.
Like when I got there, I was learning a lot of stuff
on the fly.
So I didn't know a lot of the stuff about Dan
that had transpired before.
And then I didn't know anything about any type
of like internal struggles between him and Mike.
So it was like, when you say like,
hey, if I'm an evaluator, I'm a GM,
like I'm never drafting a quarterback into a situation
where there's a split in the building.
Like don't do that,
because the kid's not gonna be able to have the best chance
to be successful.
It doesn't mean you can't be successful
because we were very successful in 2012.
And all that stuff was just festering in the background,
but we were winning.
So winning kinda quells all of those things.
Once we stopped winning,
it was, I don't think I've ever seen a team go
from what we had in 2012 to what we had in 2013,
and the coach being out like that.
No, it's-
I've never seen anything quite like that.
It's a great point.
I mean, I'm a Bears fan,
and it feels like the Bears constantly do this
where they draft a quarterback,
then they fire the coach after a year,
and you're like, wait, so now the guy who wanted the quarterback is
not here anymore it's like this guy has no chance to succeed.
Yes and it's not to say no chance.
But it's harder.
It's harder.
Like with Bryce young like I don't know what the dynamic was and I don't want to speculate
on who wanted who when where how but I do know that only one guy is there that made
the decision that was part of the decision making process of who the quarterback was
going to be and it's not the head coach the OCE or the quarterback. They're all gone
So I don't know who wanted who or what happened
But you can't draft a guy if everybody's not gonna be in lockstep to help develop that and I do think
Like a lot of NFL fans don't fully realize how much these front offices kind of are at odds at times where it's like
These are my guys. Yes, like you hire a new GM or a at times where it's like, these are my guys,
and if you hire a new GM or a new coach,
they're like, fuck these guys, these aren't my guys.
It's unbelievable.
It's crazy.
It's, honestly, it's the Daniel Jones dynamic
with the Giants.
Like, why did they decide to pay Daniel Jones?
A lot of that is, you know, they don't want to admit that.
They made a mistake. They made a mistake.
They made a mistake.
But GMs, coaches, personnel guys,
they're all trying to make a name for themselves.
So if they find that Brock Purdy, right?
Now they're like, this is the guy that found Brock Purdy
and everyone in the coaching circles is talking about that.
They're gonna hold on to what they possibly can
and they don't want to like, midst Trebisky, unfortunately, right? They don't want to be like, can and they don't want to like Mitch Trebisky, unfortunately right? They don't want to
be like yeah I'm the guy that drafted Mitch Trebisky. Right. And no disrespect
to Mitch. No, but yeah. It's more of just like they don't want to be connected to
those types of things. Right. You probably got like nine people in San Francisco that are like yeah it was my idea to draft.
They're all telling everybody it was my pick. I'm the one that did it. Isn't there
saying like success has like a million fathers
and failure has won or something like that?
It really is.
I don't know if that's a saying.
I'm like just be a genius.
So then you get to the point where some NFL execs
or decision makers, they operate on opposite sides
of the spectrum, more like what we do,
not what we do, cause we're like,
you guys are phenomenal, right?
Thank you.
We don't do this, but there's people that operate
on the far right and people that operate on the far left.
So now they're either holding on too long to a guy,
or they're not giving him enough time.
Yeah, no, it's true.
You know what I'm saying?
So there's a balance there.
If you're gonna draft a quarterback
and you're gonna give up, I don't know,
what did Washington give up?
I think it was like three ones and two twos maybe.
I don't remember. It was a lot.
Yeah.
Right? They got the whole list of the Rams players that were acquired because of the trade.
If you're going to put all that into a guy, you got to give him more than two years.
Right.
Yeah.
You got to make the structure be the right.
This is a nice two, three year, four run, we're gonna fully develop this guy. And if you don't do that for the quarterback and you
have a terrible, terrible team, right, in 2012 we weren't a terrible team but we
were three and six at one point. We won seven straight games down the
stretch, right? But if you're going to teams that have not been very good, sorry
about the Bears. Yeah, no, sorry. You know what I mean it's a tough is what it is very sensitive subject for you they stink but but if you do that
you can't like go with Justin Fields and be like all right let's give him a
year and a half and see if he can get it done no it's true doesn't mean bad for a
long time long time you got a I'm sorry I'm sorry. So Jay grew it in the beef? Yes, the beef with Jay is done.
And here's what I'll say.
Who blended it?
To be quite honest, I think it was a mutual thing.
OK, it's never fully mutual.
That's very true.
But here's what I will say.
I was not searching for a beef with Jay.
Jay said something about Jalen Hertz.
Someone tagged a bunch of people tagged me in it.
So I saw it.
You guys know how this goes.
Social media, we're having good time,
having some good laughs.
I post the picture of me with the eyes like,
say what?
Like we're having a good time.
Jay took it somewhere else.
Once he took it there, it's like, okay, well, coach,
I, you know, you've done some things towards me
that nobody really knows about.
So then when I put that out there
about the press conference in Washington
where I challenged the team,
and this guy asked me to do that,
and then he didn't have my back,
and then doubled down on it in a team meeting
that was just, it was very, not even hurtful,
but it was just like, man, what the hell's going on here?
You asked me to do this, why don't you have my back in this?
So he asked you to challenge your teammates because one guy can't do it by himself. He
told you to do that.
Correct.
And then you said it in a press conference.
Correct.
Was there like a miscommunication where he was like, you need to challenge the guys but
not in a press conference?
No, no, no. He said we need somebody to step up and tell the guys challenge them in a public forum.
Did he come to me and say,
hey Robert, I want you to challenge the guys
at the press conference right after the game,
after we just lost and it's very emotional?
No, he didn't say that.
But he asked me to challenge the team in a public forum
if we were continuing to not experience
the success that we wanted.
And after that happened,
and then what everything that I already talked about transpired,
I was just like, all right, what am I now supposed to do?
And this is a thing that I think players need to hear.
I know that you guys' fan base is phenomenal,
and they listen to what you guys say,
and they want to have a good time.
But players need to know that there's a reason
that the mainstream media has the coach's backs.
And it's because no matter how long you play,
that coach is gonna coach longer.
Tom Brady played for 21 years.
There's, I mean, Bill Belichick's how old,
79, 9,000 years old?
What is he, 104?
You know what I'm saying?
Like he's been coaching for a really, really long time.
That relationship with that coach is more important
than that relationship with the player.
So when you see narratives like Russell Wilson,
and you see like, okay, there's like one or two guys
that are talking, you're not bad about Sean Payton,
but just about what he did wrong.
No one else is.
Why?
We did.
Yeah, we said it was weird.
Because y'all are real ones.
We said it was fucked up.
It's so messed up.
But there's more people that won't
because they know that Russell Wilson is probably
going to be done in five, five, six years.
And Sean Payton is going to probably still be coaching.
And the people in Sean Payton's coaching career
are going to continue to be coaching.
So it's an interesting dynamic there for players.
Sometimes as players, we have to bite the bullet.
And we have to do what's best for the team
by not saying that.
So that story that I shared, that story's nine years old.
It's never been told though, why?
Because I was in the NFL.
And if I tell that story about Jay Gruden,
I'm not getting another job.
What coach is gonna wanna work with a guy
that you tell the story about what the coach told you
and then he didn't have your back
and it's like they don't wanna do that.
So now at this point when I'm basically retired, I'm like okay cool Jay, you wanna try to burn, that you tell the story about what the coach told you and then he didn't have your back and it's like they don't wanna do that.
So now at this point when I'm basically retired,
I'm like, okay, cool, Jay, you wanna try to burn bridges
or you wanna make a joke about me racing a pigeon,
which I didn't race a pigeon by the way.
It was an eagle.
It was an eagle, either it was a hawk.
It was a hawk.
It was a hawk.
It was the hawk.
Fastest bird alive.
And I'm sorry that I can do things that-
You dusted the hawk.
Don't just say you raced the hawk.
I dusted, shit.
I'm 2-0 versus Tame of the hawk the. Don't just say you raised the. I just. I'm doing over.
Just take the.
Hock.
Yeah.
Are you.
Two and up.
You raised him twice.
Twice and twice.
Race him last year.
They wanted to rematch because he they said he pulled up at the line.
So I said, OK, so they put the they put the hawks trainer 10 yards back from the finish line this time.
No excuses.
OK.
So don't punish me because I can be the hawk that can fly at 120 miles per hour and
Tapers gonna hear this and my
If that walk attacks you I might
Arches three talked a lot of shit on that
So I'm free and over as well because I also beat dubs the second from from Washington
Okay, so I'm three and over this is wildlife. I'm open for any suggestions, of course,
but I'm not going to stand here and allow anyone
to bad mouth Tama and or pigeons.
OK?
Pigeons are legendary.
All right.
And I'm not going to throw any other shots.
So Jay came out and basically apologized.
So it's good.
I had like 30 minutes.
I had like 30 minutes. Yeah.
I had like 30 minutes of ether for him.
Yeah.
But I decided to put that in the back pocket because I'm not going to throw punches at
someone who has their hands down.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that's fair.
Put your hands up, Jay.
We're done.
But if you want to, we can.
But if you want to.
We can do it.
Pigeons also helped us win World War II.
So you got to have, you got to respect Pigeons.
You read the tweet.
You read the tweet. You helped us win World War II. Absolutely. got to have you got to respect my type. You read the tweet. You read the tweet. I just went
World War II carrying messages. Yeah. Absolutely. So now
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And now here's more RG3.
I got a non football question for you.
And your lovely wife is here.
What happened with the flight, the Southwest flight,
and you leaving for the birth of your child?
Oh, yeah, that's a great one actually.
Because we were like, where's the child?
Uh-huh.
I was like, wait a second we're
gonna need a we're gonna need a birth certificate Taylor Luan like basically
broke down in tears and hope you out of the stadium and now I got now there's
no Robert Griffin the second half of this game also where's the child like I
actually had this exact thing happen the birth of my third child okay in we were
going to West Virginia for our rough and rowdy fights, got to the green room and my wife called me
and was like, my water just broke.
And I'd get right back on the plane and go back.
So little stolen valor, I need to know when this child was born.
Yeah, so first you said the flight with the child
and immediately my mind went to when our baby was at Gamaya.
When Gamaya was born Gamaea, when Gamaea was born,
I was in Baltimore.
And I actually coached,
hardball let me miss the flight
to be there for the birthday of my child.
And then I had to fly Southwest with the Ravens fans,
essentially to get to the game,
threw a touchdown, did a whole story on it.
So that's when my brain went at first.
You're talking about running off the field,
had the Fiesta Board.
Correct.
Two years ago, basically now.
So.
Babies won.
The babies won, but it was.
Yeah, yeah.
So it took a whole year for the baby to be born.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
So, you know what?
Yeah, so at the end of the day,
so I get the call from Greta,
that lesson, the thing I'm going into labor.
I had already pre-talked about it with the group,
like, hey, there's a good chance that-
Yeah, you're on high alert.
That I'm on high alert.
All right, I was risky to actually fly to the Fiesta Bowl,
but because Pat McAfee asked me to do
the alternative cast from the sideline,
I'm like, you know what?
I got a lot of respect for Pat, he's doing a great job.
I'll do it, I'll make sure I'm there.
It was Taylor LeWon, AQ Shipley,
and Cole Kubelick, exactly.
It was a great group.
But I'm like, I think if I get the call,
these guys can carry.
They can carry the broadcast.
These guys are phenomenal.
So we're all laughing about it before the game,
like, yo, it'd be pretty sweet if we just did it anyway.
You know?
Like, what if we just act like it happened?
Yeah. You know, like, what if we just act like it happened?
So when I get the call, I'm thinking like,
okay, this is fake.
She's not really going into labor.
And so their reaction, I don't know if they knew
if it was real or not, but then I get the call
and I'm like, no, I gotta go.
So like that, from that point on, I don't know if they actually knew. Like he actually get the call and I'm like, no, I gotta go. So like that, from that point on,
I don't know if they actually knew.
Like he actually got the call
and his wife is going into labor
or if it was just like,
well, we were kind of joking about this earlier.
Like what's going on here?
So I got the call, it was a real call.
I ran off the field, that was all legit.
So I get to the airport, the Southwest flight.
So now I'm on the plane flying home
and I'm thinking to myself,
well, damn, I've got all these pictures in my phone
of my wife from like a pregnancy shoot that we did
and I'm not gonna get a chance to post them.
Oh no, surreal problem.
That was the worst thing ever.
So I'm like, one, I don't know if I'm gonna make it
to the birth of my child,
but I've gotta get these pictures off.
So I'm on the plane and I get, I buy Wi-Fi, you know,
it's like an arm and a leg, $9, like, God dang it.
I think that was the only Southwest flight
that took off that weekend.
It was the only Southwest flight that was shut down.
That is the actual true statement,
because all the other Southwest flights were shut down,
but they found a way, God found a way,
for me to be able to get back.
And I'm thinking in my head, yeah, all right.
So I think I posted like six,
six pictures maybe, don't quote me on that.
But they're beautiful pictures of her
and just us together and enjoy the moment.
And then when I land, so you know,
Wi-Fi goes out for like 10 minutes or whatever,
so I land, I'm running to get to the car,
I get in the car, I'm driving, heading,
there you go, four, two, five. I'm driving to the hospital, texts are like get in the car, I'm driving, heading, there you go. I got you.
I'm driving to the hospital, text her like,
hey, what hospital did you go to?
Boom, boom, boom.
And then she calls me.
I'm like, maybe 10 minutes from the hospital.
Hey, they told me it was false labor.
So now, I think that was, was that two weeks?
It was, I think two weeks later.
Two weeks, yeah.
Two weeks later after that, I mean that was, was that two weeks? It was, I think two weeks later. Two weeks, yeah. Two weeks later, after that,
Gimea, I mean, Gia was born.
Okay. Gia Shaligriff.
And so, she was born and I went,
I actually left the next day
and went to call a bowl game in Texas
where we were in Orlando at the time.
And everyone that I saw,
six months after running off the field
every single one of them was like man that was so cool great that you made it
to your baby's delivery and I'm like I corrected them for two months hey guys
it was actually false labor actually put out a tweet saying that it was false
labor but people didn't see that they They saw the tweet that went viral.
And after three months, I was just like, yep, thank you.
It was incredible.
I don't know how I made it.
You had us in a real pickle because I have three children.
So I know that labor is very intense
and it's scary when you get to the last few weeks.
So we were kind of towing that line of like, you know,
we don't want any complications, but produce the baby.
Like we didn't see the baby.
We didn't see the baby!
Yeah.
So we didn't.
So we actually, I don't, how long did we take to post Gea?
We took a while to post her that she, like we posted that she was born,
but I don't think we posted on the day that she was born.
Yeah.
And we did that on purpose because of some of the confusion that was going on.
But like as a dad, you know this, women die in labor.
So it was concerning for me to be at the festival
and not be there for the birth of our child.
But also like, oh my gosh, I don't know
if my wife is going to survive.
Now that might sound Debbie Dauners, but it's a real thing.
It's a real thing.
It's a scary moment where it's like,
this is, you know, there's a lot at stake here.
So I'm very excited on the plane going home like,
all right, our baby's going to be born.
Looking at pregnancy pictures.
Let me get these pregnancy pictures.
I'm like, this is awesome.
This is so cool.
But like in the back of my mind, I'm like, man,
I kind of want to make sure I get there.
And there's no complications.
No complications, yeah. No issues. For issues for sure for sure a moment will always
remember yeah I'm happy that everything worked out because we really were we were
stuck so being big cat talked about it we obviously did we didn't want to say
anything on the air because like you don't know what's happening somebody
else's life but right after it happened we kind of floated the idea to each other
like wait a second every Southwest Airlines flight is grounded.
I think it got so far in our heads
that we're like, I think that Southwest paid RG30.
Yeah, we thought it was an ad.
That's right.
To get some good publicity for them.
Now that they say that, it's bringing back memories
because Southwest was like under fire for weeks
about some of the stuff that was going on with their planes
so I can understand why.
Yeah. We can understand why.
Yeah, we can answer that.
I don't wanna say your conspiracy.
Are you conspiracy theorists?
No, we spend too much time online.
That's really what it is.
Our brains are rotten from online.
Would you consider yourself a conspiracy theorist?
No, I enjoy conspiracy theories,
but I wouldn't consider myself to be a conspiracy theorist.
Right, so there's this week, long,
we had a lot of private conversations where like, we need to see this baby.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, facts.
I'm not gonna lie, when I got to the airport,
that was my number one concern.
Yeah.
Is the plane going to take off?
Yeah.
I just ran off a national TV.
There's no way I can get back to Orlando fast enough
via car from Arizona.
I got to take this fight and it took off. to Orlando fast enough by the car from Arizona.
I gotta take this fight and it took off.
So maybe Southwest saw the broadcast.
Yeah, we gotta make sure this flight has to go out.
Yeah, I like it.
Mary P gets on the phone.
He's like, I need this flight.
I need a stop.
I'm getting a lot of shit right now.
There's another great video of you.
I think this was like 2017.
Are these drinkable by the way?
Yeah, yeah. Body armor with zero sugar. More than drinkable. Yeah, I great video of you. I think this was like 2007. Yeah, oh yeah
There's no sugar more than yeah, body armor
There was a video that you put out on Instagram a while ago
Maybe my favorite we like the James Winston workout videos. Those are our favorites, but it closed larious close second
Yeah, was RG3 throwing footballs at trees. Remember that one? I think you guys commented on that
Yeah, it was like pick a tree and then you'd hit the tree throwing footballs of trees. You remember that one? I think you guys commented on that. Oh, yeah. You commented on that one.
Oh, EFT, definitely.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Yes, yes.
It was like pick a tree, and then you'd hit the tree.
It was actually impressive.
Like, you were fucking nailing those trees.
Appreciate you.
These trees didn't stand a chance.
Have you thought about, like, if you're not retired,
try to get some buzz going, go hit some more trees?
Well, you see, that's actually not a bad idea,
because after that video, I did get a few calls from teams,
and it actually led to me getting signed
to the Ravens in 2018.
There you go.
And honestly, I know some people,
maybe who have a lot of time on their hands,
on the internet, would be like, it's fake.
Oh, fake tree?
No, the trees are fake, or the video's fake. Yeah, oh, fake tree? No, the trees are fake or the video's fake.
I was literally out there throwing,
didn't have any receivers, and at this point in the year,
everyone's like, Canadian Football League is playing,
NFL is going, I'm like, I don't have anybody
to throw the ball to, so I gotta find something.
So I had ran a track workout, I started doing some drops,
and I look at my wife, Greté, and I say, pick a tree.
I'll hit it.
In my mind, I'm like, there's no fucking way
I'm hitting this tree.
Right?
But I drop back.
I hit three trees in a row.
Yeah.
This is off-camera.
RG tree.
There you go.
RG tree.
We got a trademark though.
Ceasen desist.
I got to talk to you about something else too.
So no pressure, no diamonds.
Yes.
Your slogan.
Yes.
Did you know that you let the trademark lapse on that?
I did.
Do you know who got that trademark?
Did you get the trademark?
I got the trademark for no pressure.
No way!
No way!
Yeah.
Do you still have it?
I don't because I traded it to Mike Florio.
So now Mike Florio has it.
Has the trademark in exchange for him not suing me
for calling myself PFT.
Really?
Yeah, so Florio's got the no pressure, no diamonds trademark.
So Florio Profiball talk has the no pressure, no diamonds.
That is hilarious.
So every time you just said it, that's money for Florio.
It's money for Florio.
He listens to every podcast.
That is honestly loyal.
He's gonna get a check for this.
So every time I say no pressure, no. Yeah, yeah, you can't say that's a half
I'm that's half right there. Yeah. No, he's gonna get the lawyer that is hilarious
Yeah, honestly, that's funny that you picked it up
The reason I let it lapse is because we weren't gonna be selling any any merch from it, but we're gonna continue to use it
So I guess I when I do start selling merch again. I'm gonna have to go get from Mike, Florida
Yeah, you can pay me and then I'll pay Mike. again, I'm gonna have to go get it from Mike Florian. Yeah, you're gonna have to.
You can pay me and then I'll pay Mike.
Okay.
And I'll just take my cut from Mike.
Yeah.
Because I'm kinda like his agent.
Oh, okay, that's actually pretty.
This whole thing, yeah.
That is hilarious.
I would not have never have guessed that.
Yeah, so there's a period of time
where I just basically lived to troll
everything that you did.
We know this.
Yeah, but you said, I forget what show you won.
You said something very nice, like maybe a year ago.
You're like, yeah, we used to hate each other.
Now I think we're boys.
Yeah.
So I would consider you a friend.
Love them.
I consider you a friend.
I honestly, the backstory that you gave at the beginning
of this whole conversation, I never knew that.
I never knew how much of a fan you were.
And I can understand the angle of like,
by me trying to go, like you created this persona,
but I don't think it's a persona anymore.
I think it's just who you are.
But it was maybe a little misunderstood in the beginning
with everything that was going on with me in Washington.
Well honestly, I would be concerned if like,
a starting quarterback was getting into the depths
of like levels of satire on the internet
that they completely understood every joke I was making. I'd be like you
should probably spend more time playing football. Yes, yeah. So when somebody
drops a logo and then somebody says you know who else has a logo? Uh-huh. Hitler.
Yeah, yeah. Then it's like... Makes you think. It makes you think. It doesn't make you think. It makes you be like I gotta get blocked this guy!
Get him outta here! But uh, I do consider you a friend.
And I've been really excited about this whole media journey.
Because I feel like what you guys try to do, or what you do,
is you celebrate the game, but you have a good time.
Yeah.
And it's not a, I understand the satire now,
because I'm obviously just, I'm enveloped in it.
You know, I'm in it.
I'm in the thick of it like Kyle Lowry, you know what I'm saying?
That's because he's got thick legs.
Okay, so no one was wondering.
Big ass though.
I actually got a call from somebody about that.
About Kyle Lowry's ass?
I wouldn't say it that way, but.
Yeah.
Just that, you know, maybe Kyle didn't like it.
Okay.
So I actually have not said it for months.
Okay.
This is my first time in months saying it.
It's very difficult for me not to say it.
Thank you, welcome back.
No, it's just the way you guys have fun
talking about sports, talking about the players,
talking about your favorite teams.
I think it's more so what sports should be.
What sports media should be.
It should be about celebration of these guys
and having a good time.
And I think you've moved away.
You have moved away from a lot of the stuff that you used to do in the beginning
Well because I right now it's like I mean it's gonna sound like a brag, but the podcast is pretty big right?
Oh, it's huge
And so there's gonna be a lot of people that weren't there at the start that didn't understand like what I was doing
Where if I say or go after somebody like I used to they're gonna be like, holy shit
This guy's insane or like maybe maybe worse some people that are like, he makes some
good points about Margie III and Hitler.
But I'm with you though, that was and that was more so I would say the issue and
not just for me but like other players not just with you but with certain
people who might take it that way. Yeah I think you guys know like I think a big
reason for your name was the fact that people would tell you don't read the
comments. Yeah, right. On tell you don't read the comments
Yeah, right on the line don't read the comments. It gets gnarly in the comments
Well players take they see that and then it's like now you're attaching things to their name that they don't like yeah
Or thing not even that they don't like that that shouldn't be there right?
So I'm actually you know we hugged it out before but I'm proud of you
I'm proud for what you've been able to do and what you've become.
And it's been cool to see just the growth and development.
And I hope you and everyone else out there
sees the same thing from a guy like myself.
I'm not a 22, 23-year-old young man anymore.
I'm 33, about to be 34.
And I've learned from a lot of the things
that I went through, know what to say,
when to say, how to say it.
And hopefully, people see that in my coverage of sports.
Yeah, all right, so I got one last question.
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So your media career has blossomed,
you're doing a great job.
Tough question though.
Are you two horny online?
Oh, good question.
That's a great question.
Listen, if I put together a wordsmith of a tweet, right?
Yeah. I'm deep in my back. Okay, okay. I put together a wordsmith of a tweet, right?
Yeah. I'm deep in my back.
Okay, okay.
How you interpret that.
So it's our fault.
We're too worried.
It's not your fault.
It is not your fault.
This is not a blame game.
What I'm saying to you is Alex Orgy.
The quarterback for Wishing.
Why'd you use that name?
Because that's his name.
Okay.
But I mean, I just asked if you were too horny.
Did you not know? No, but did you not? You say I- Yeah, name. Okay. But I mean, I just asked if you were too horny. Did you not know?
No, but did you not?
You say I, yeah, right.
I asked you horny and you just go right to the orgy.
I'm just, you went right to the orgy.
No, you did.
I, did I?
Okay.
Yeah, you said orgy.
I said, you said orgy.
Alex orgy.
You said you went right to the orgy.
You said I likes orgy.
No, I did not say that.
We're right back. Are you trying to, we're right back. That's like being like, oh, I likes orgy. No, I did not say that. We'll run it back.
We'll run it back.
That's like being like, oh, I'm a comedian.
And you're like, no, I'm not a comedian, but I do comedy.
It's like, that makes no sense.
Yeah, it's like my favorite quarterback, Spencer Blowjob.
That's what you just did.
Oh my god, listen.
A random name.
I did not say that at all.
I said the backup quarterback for Michigan was Alex Orgy.
OK, so here.
One of the ones that took off a couple years ago was I called.
There's a Orgy in the end zone.
Yes.
It's a good call.
Right.
But it was because Alex Orgy scored a touchdown.
And we kind of built it up.
Like he had a couple plays on that drive where I just
did not say his last name.
Right. And I was like, ooh, I just did not say his last name.
And I was like, ooh, I'm not touching that one.
Alex with a nice throw, Alex with a nice run.
And it was just like, you know what, this guy,
if he scores touchdown, I'm gonna say it.
I'm gonna say his name, and I'm gonna make sure
that it's in the Hall of Lore forever.
So when I said that one, the Michigan fans took it
and ran with it and had a good time with it and I
What I try to do is have a good time, but never put my employer in a situation
Yeah, no you do a good job where they can't be like it's not explained. Yeah, right, you know, I had a tweet
Man, I've had some tweets now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's some tweets. Yeah, I had a tweet
It was when a B and Brown, like, exposed himself
in the pool.
And I said something about, I think I deleted the tweet,
honestly, after the, you know, the ref share came in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everyone cut the check.
But no, I don't even think they were ref sharing at that time.
So this is a joke.
But AB, like, exposed himself.
And there was a defense that was not playing very well well and I tweeted out and I'm saying something like,
you know, they, they're, you know, Antonio Brown showed more D than this team and it took
off and I deleted the tweet because that kind of put my employer in a situation where they're
like, all right, well, why are you referencing that?
Right. It's not a guy's name, it's not this.
So even in this media game of doing that type of stuff,
you find the spot and I feel like I'm in my honey hole
of like, I can be myself, have a good time.
You're in your what?
Yeah, my honey hole.
My honey hole?
You don't even know what it is.
I'm mad!
Listen, listen, listen.
It's fine.
I said honey hole, you turned it into something else. That're over it. I'm not! Listen, listen. It's fine. I said, honey hole, you turned it into something else.
That might be fair.
You know what I'm saying?
If your mind is in the gutter, I can't help
get you out of it.
All right.
Right?
If I say, oh my gosh, did you see that big hole
that the running back just penetrated down the middle?
Oh my goodness.
Did you see with that cut?
Yeah.
Yeah, ran right into the box. You know I'm saying like those types of things like I
They I watch games and I can't not hear those things. Yeah, it's unbelievable
Yeah, you know what I mean? So I just try to have fun have a good time, but also let it be explainable
You know I mean yeah, Oklahoma had a backup quarterback. What was his name?
General booty general booty and John David booty. Yeah, and I think they Booty. General Booty. And John David Booty.
And I think they're related.
John David Booty.
The Booty Bros.
The Booty Bros.
And General Booty.
I had no plans on mentioning General Booty, OK?
But Dylan Gabriel got hurt.
And the backup got hurt.
So.
And then RG3 gets horny.
No, no, no, no. So on the sideline they pan
to general booty warming up. What do you think I said? You don't know do you know exactly.
I said probably like that's a nice booty is getting loose on the sideline. Oh OK. All
right. That's good one right. That's a fact. Yeah you did. Yeah that's smart booty doing
a good job getting loose with his arm on the side. it. Yeah, that's smart. His name is Booty.
You're doing a good job.
And he's getting loose with his arm on the side.
Yes.
Right?
So I try to find, I don't try to find those things.
They happen naturally.
And I think I have a decent knack of knowing when I'm like going.
Yeah, they're good.
It makes the broadcast fun.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah.
I got one other thing, but I'm trying to find this picture right now on my phone.
I went, oh, here it is.
Great timing. I went as you for Halloween one year.
No, it's not bad.
It's not bad.
It's not what you think.
Is that cultural appropriation?
I did braid my hair.
Oh, I thought he had black face on.
No, no, no, no, no.
I had a sprained ankle at the time
and you also had a sprained ankle. So I went as you, is that okay? That's okay, listen, no, no. And I had a sprained ankle at the time, and you also had a sprained ankle.
So I went as you.
Is that OK?
That's OK.
Listen, I got a bunch of the Halloween
pictures of the knee brace or the crutches
or the cast on the ankle.
But nobody's ever done a Halloween costume of me
racing, Tamer the Hawk.
Yeah.
Or the subway thing.
Or the subway sandblades, you know what I mean?
Or like, you know, griffin'ing on the ground after the first touchdown.
Yeah.
It's like, can we get some of those?
Yeah.
No, but no, that's fine.
It's 100% fine.
And, you know, I just, I appreciate all the fans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's been awesome.
Thank you so much for making time for us.
And you have to come back on.
Yeah.
You're a recurring guest now.
You do. I'm a recurring guest now, and it's not gonna take
12 years yeah mm-hmm for me how long you guys been doing this show actually eight years
Yeah, it's not gonna take me seven years okay to come on the show, but before we leave the show
I do have to make a couple proclamations. Okay, okay, you know we got the
Superbos already happen. Yep
What do you guys think about Brock Purdy?
What do you think about Brock Purdy?
I think he's a game changer.
I think he's a game wrecker.
He is a game wrecker.
He plays the game of football.
I always say he stings.
He's not a manager, he's a man.
He's a game man.
Yeah.
He's a game man.
He's a game man.
He's a game man.
I like that.
I like that.
Unless he loses, then he stinks.
Come on, this is fucked.
I mean, according to the mainstream media,
that's what it is.
If you lose in the Super Bowl, you suck.
Stink, yeah.
Not the fact that you got there.
Yeah, right.
Or that you were miss or irrelevant.
And if you've done, if you just look at Brock Purdy's stats,
right, from the regular season,
you'd say he was the best quarterback in the NFL this year.
You could make that argument probably, yeah.
Lamar was pretty good.
No, Lamar was the MVP.
Yeah.
There's a difference.
Yeah.
Lamar was the MVP.
Brock Purdy played the quarterback position better than anybody in the NFL.
Yeah.
And I've always said this about stats.
Stats are like bikinis, right?
They show you a lot, but they don't show you everything.
Ooh, I like that.
So you have to actually watch the tape of Brock to go back and see
like, oh, this guy's a creator. Yeah. Like he creates plays for them, not just with ball
placement or throwing the ball where it's supposed to be or eye manipulation, but with
his legs in the pocket and outside the pocket. So I actually believe that the real Mr. Irrelevance
are the people who throw shade at Brock. Oh, I like that. That's good.
I also like calling him like a play creator.
Exactly.
I've never heard that before.
He's a creator.
If you watch the tape,
and I know everybody doesn't have time to do that,
and I'm not trying to sit here and I know some people like,
I watch more tape than everybody I do,
but I don't want people to think that I'm trying to say that
as being a snob.
It's just to say studying the game
and being able to cover these guys the right way.
Yeah. That whole thing that as being a snob. It's just to say studying the game and being able to cover these guys the right way.
That whole thing about him being a game manager
and not even in the top 10 on his team,
first of all, he is top 10 on his own team, 100%.
But he's not that.
And if you're saying that,
you're not watching the actual tape.
I don't compare Brock Purdy to myself.
I'm not playing right now.
I don't care what he looks like compared to me
I care about what he looks like when I watch that tape. Yeah, so that's a
Football player and if I had to say if my home's losing Super Bowl, he stinks. Yeah, they're gonna say that he stinks
Yeah, we're doing the Super Bowl. Yeah, and here's a big one and here's the thing guys like for Patrick Mahomes
Like how many okay say they lose a Super Bowl. Yeah, mr. Risky never lost Super Bowl stop me from wrong that's pretty funny actually but either
way you cut it my homes is either gonna have two Super Bowls in his six years or
he's gonna have three Super Bowls in his six years of being a starting
quarterback yeah so he'll already have been the second greatest quarterback in
NFL history yeah in six years it's crazy. It's unbelievable.
He's on a Brady track, but John L. Way
didn't win his first Super Bowl till his 15th season.
Yeah.
Right, I think Steve Young didn't win his till his 10th.
But yet we're gonna try to hammer a guy like Patrick Mahomes,
who's on a legendary pace.
Yeah.
I think if they win, Mahomes and Andy Reed
will be on track to becoming the greatest quarterback coach
duo of all time.
And that's a big statement because we already
know what Bill and Tom Brady did.
But that branches me into my next gripe of the people
with Lamar Jackson.
OK.
I mentioned to you that Elway didn't win his first one
to his 15th season.
Well, what was Peyton Manning's record after six games?
After his first six postseason games, what was it?
He was like one in five?
He wasn't good.
Two in four.
What was the thing that they kept saying about Peyton?
I don't know if you guys remember that.
He's a choker.
He can't be Brady.
He can't be Brady.
He can't win it when it matters.
How many Super Bowls did Peyton end up with
when it was all said and done?
One and a half.
Oh.
Broncos D-Less.
The list is really good.
They were amazing.
And I will say that Peyton never had a quarterback rating over 90 in any of his playoff
Super Bowl appearances, so he was a choker. He was not a choker. Okay Peyton Manning is one of the greatest of all time
You're not gonna get me to say that buddy. These are the greatest of all time, but for me with Lamar. I don't think it's
It's not unfair to criticize Lamar. That's not my issue
It's like when you try to compare him to the greats
Yeah unfair to criticize Lamar, that's not my issue. It's like when you try to compare him to the greats, if you compare him to Peyton, then you got to know the facts
about what Peyton went through and how it took him nine seasons to win one
Super Bowl. Right. Right. And Lamar's going into year seven? Yeah. So like give him
that grace that we gave to some of these others. We feel the same way about Josh
Allen. Josh Allen as well. Like he, you know, people want to rag on him
or we love him and it's just like,
yeah, it's a weird sport.
And when you got a guy like Mahomes or a guy like Brady,
they steal a lot of Super Bowls from people.
100%.
It just happened.
Patrick Mahomes is 100% going to leave us
with a generation of great quarterbacks
that have no Super Bowl rings.
Yeah.
Because of how great he's been, because of Andy Reed,
because of the Travis Kelsey thing,
and now he's got a number two defense,
like come on man.
But I'm with you with Josh Allen.
I'm a Josh Allen guy, I love him.
I hate the fact that they're debating
whether he's great on TV every freaking week
when he loses a game, because at the end of the day,
if Patrick Mahomes is your standard of great,
then yeah, no one else is great.
You can't compare it, it's not a comparison, but to say that Josh Allen isn't a great, then yeah, no one else is great. You can't compare it.
It's not a comparison, but to say that Josh Allen
isn't a great quarterback, come on, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Are your eyes, are you just mad?
Because he's greater than you?
I don't, God, come on.
Like, support these guys, they're the best in the world,
and I think you guys do a really good job of that.
Well, sometimes if you have a bad team,
you just want other franchises to also have bad times.
I'm with you. Like, a lot of times it's deflection away
from how badly you feel about the guy that you root for.
Like, well, you guys not as good as you think he is.
Yeah, that's what it is.
But that's okay from fans.
Yeah, media is different.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't, but you, what do you,
do you guys consider yourself media?
Yeah, I know, but we're like, we're fans.
Yeah, I think we're fans first.
But you're fans first.
If you're on ESPN or Fox or CBS or NBC,
I know that there's fans as well, but that's not your job.
Your job is not to be a fan and analyze
from a fan's perspective.
Your job is to analyze from a professional standpoint.
And you cannot tell me that Josh Allen's
scoring damn near 50 touchdowns this year
means he's not a great quarterback.
I know he threw a lot of picks.
Okay, Mika, a lot of sense.
How about this one though?
This is one that trips everybody up.
Okay.
Dak.
Oh yeah.
Talk about Dak.
I know.
He's a joker.
We just hit the cowboy.
So yeah, we'll say like Lamar.
Are you horny right now?
No, he's a joker.
What are you talking about?
He's a joker.
Lamar?
He is not a joker.
Give Lamar some time and the same grace
that you give to Peyton Manning.
Josh Allen do the same, Dak sucks.
That's pretty much it.
That's coming from a bear's fan and a commander's fan.
I just look at Dak and man,
I thought the decision with Tony Pollard
like and getting rid of Zeke.
No, they needed Zeke.
It was a difficult one.
But like for Dak, I think I said this last year,
he's now moving into the realm of,
is he going to be Tony Romo or is he going to be Troy Aikman?
Right.
Now, what did Troy Aikman have?
He had a phenomenal offensive line.
He had Emmett Smith.
He had Michael Irvin.
Right?
Dak has Cede Lamb.
Is Tony Pollard going to be that Emmett Smith,
or they're going to have to bring another guy in,
and do they have the pieces up front
to be that dominant offensive line?
But it's no longer...
They're not going to give Dak any more grace
for everything that's going on.
You go out on a limb and say Tony Pollard will not be Emmett Smith.
Yeah.
I like Tony Pollard.
Yeah, I do.
Now, Emmett Smith is the... He leads the NFL in rushing yards. I don Tony Pollard. Yeah, I do. Now Emmett Smith is you know, he leads
the NFL in rushing yards. Yeah. I don't think that's a yeah. It's not a you know, you're
not condemning him for that. It's the same thing you said with my home. That's great
than everyone else thinks. Now I know you tried to stop the episode but we're just having
such a great conversation. So I'm actually wearing this saying jacket right this is
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I made this comparison on Monday Night Countdown
about I'm a Dragon Ball Z guy.
And I made this comparison with Patrick Mahomes.
Like there's a character on Dragon Ball Z named Cell
and he's the perfect combination of all of the attributes of all the greatest fighters on earth,
Goku, Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, all these guys.
And to me that's what Patrick Mahomes is for NFL quarterbacks.
He's the perfect combination
of all the great quarterbacks we've ever seen.
He can process like Manning and Brady.
He can extend plays in a similar way to guys like Steve Young.
And the thing that makes him so great is that in clutch time
moments, he has that.
It's not even a clutch gene.
It's just like you just anticipate.
Yeah.
13 seconds.
Confidence.
And whatever.
Five seconds, he'll find a way to get it done.
Yeah.
So I always wonder that.
And then my other question, I guess my question for you guys,
you guys Dragon Ball Z at all?
No.
But you're Avengers, right?
No, I'm not a nerd.
You're not an event, you're not a nerd?
I'm a Johnny Stark.
Tony Stark, you're not a nerd?
I play football, yeah.
You play football.
I used to play football.
So I didn't have time for that.
Yeah, we don't, I'm not.
I'm a nerd, I'm a 100% nerd.
No, there's just some things that like we don't,
for whatever reason we miss, we just miss those things. That's fine, you can miss Dragon Ball Z. I've watched enough for all three of us combined. Yeah, I love just some things that like we don't for whatever reason we miss we just miss those things. That's fine
You can miss Dragon Balls. Yeah, I've watched enough for all three of us. Yeah, I love how passionate. That's why I didn't watch it
So my question you would be you guys know who the Avengers are nope
That's Marvel's Avengers Avengers of baby
Okay, okay. Yeah, so Brock. I think Brock Purdy's Iron Man.
Okay.
For the Niners.
Who do you think the other guys are?
Oh, Batman.
Who's Batman?
Well, Batman would be DC.
Batman's Brock Purdy.
You think Batman's Brock?
Yeah, he's just a regular guy.
And then he puts on his armor and it's Debo
and it's Kittle and it's McCatney. That's actually a really good reference. I nailed that one.
But if we're gonna go with the Avengers, what do you think? I think Joe Burrow is Iron Man.
You think Joe Burrow is Iron Man? Because he's rich as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Just got paid. Yeah. He's a rich one, right?
Iron Man is the rich one, but I think you're misunderstanding the conversation.
I'm asking you for the 49ers team. On the. Oh, you check. Tramp Williams is Pikachu. Oh, Ray Ray McLeod's baby Yoda.
Yeah. Okay. Goku. What? What's Groku? Groku. That is his name. Right. My kids
have the baby Yoda. But that's okay. That's okay. That's what I was the name
of the species. And it's a Groku not Goku from Dragon Ball Z
Oh, I was mixing everything and we're throwing Pikachu and in Star Wars and all this into here
Chase Yong is predator. He's the oh wow. That's a good. That's actually a good one
Yeah, it's not in the Marvel universe, but it is a great. Oh, uh incredible Hulk Trent Williams has to be right
Oh
That means Debo would be the incredible Hulk incredible Hulk. Yeah, I think Debo might be Debo from Friday from
Friday. Yeah, we're throwing Debo from Friday into the Marvel Universe to like half of his force. Yeah
Force comp
Me and Kyle was like peas and carrots
Oh my gosh. Me and Kyle was like peas and carrots.
We nailed it.
We nailed it.
That's pretty funny.
I got nothing else.
That was awesome.
Well, yeah, this has been so much fun.
Thank you so much.
You definitely are coming back on.
I'm coming back on.
Yes.
And I want to maybe come to our office.
I want to see that speed up close.
You guys are in New York, right?
We're in Chicago.
Yeah, we have a huge 40,000 square foot office
with a basketball court and everything.
Holy cow.
You know what? We're going to make it happen. Yeah, you come. James put us through some drills. We should we have a huge 40,000 square foot office with a basketball court everything. Holy cow. You know what? We're gonna make it up. Yeah, you got
James put us through some drills. We should set up a race. Yeah. Set up a
race in Chicago with some wild animal. Yep, maybe we can do a bird Olympics.
We can do multiple sports against the bird. We could do the bird Olympics and we
could honor pigeons the way they deserve to be honored. I agree. I'm down. Yeah,
if you race in every type of bird yeah that would rock that would be
pretty funny yeah we start with like a chicken and we just keep going up from
there so while I'm racing these birds what are you guys gonna be doing watching
yeah on our phones now Robert's racing ostrich oh my god get them all that
might be pretty frightening I start with a penguin I think yeah yeah
penguin's the yeah the first one I don't think that would be like
final boss. Unfair. It'd be funny. Have you seen their feet? Yeah. I think you could beat a penguin.
You've seen Happy Feet, right? Yeah. They're great singers but not great runners. Yeah.
Wait, Happy Feet wasn't that the one? I think a penguin could beat Kurt Cousins in a race.
In Happy Feet, were they dancing? They were dancing. Oh, I'm thinking of March of the Penguins.
Come on, get happy.
That's like a documentary.
What'd you say about Kirk Cousins?
I think Penguin could beat Kirk Cousins in a race.
In a race?
Actually, well, right now he's got an Achilles injury.
Right, exactly.
But not when he's healthy.
Can I ask you one more question about that Redskins team?
Yes.
OK.
Was it weird when you got drafted and then Kirk Cousins
gets drafted in the fourth round?
Or was it his fourth, right?
It was in the fourth round.
It was only weird because Mike came to me during the draft.
I was in the meeting room with Kyle and Matla Floor
learning the offense and he comes in, opens the door,
he's like, hey, Robert, we're gonna draft quarterback
for Michigan State, Kirk Cousins.
Are you, now this is a rhetorical question, right?
Are you cool with that?
Yeah, what if you're like, no.
I'm 22.
This is my first day in the building
because I think it was the second day of the draft, right?
I don't know how they did the days back then,
but I think it was second day of the draft.
So what am I supposed to say?
Nah, coach, go do something else?
No, but what I came to find out was the reason
that that pick happened was because of the internal struggle
that was going on behind the scenes.
So I didn't know that.
Me and Kirk shared a burrito together.
Okay, our rookie year, we shared a burrito.
Now, we didn't eat it at the same time.
Like Lady and the Tramp.
Like Lady and the Tramp, but we didn't do that.
But we cut it down the middle, shared a burrito.
We were, this was rookie mini camp.
So we're roommates at rookie mini-camp
We're studying the system together. We're learning everything together me and Kirk are we have a great relationship
We are fine nice guy. I like I like Kirk. I support Kirk
I think I think he's turned the corner in his career from the the early years when they're saying he couldn't win in primetime
And do all the stuff. I know his record might not say that but what he's done the past few years has been impressive
Yeah, I'm happy for him. I'm hoping he lands where he wants to be at, but to answer
your question, it wasn't weird because I didn't think anything of it.
Right. In hindsight, being 2020, there was a clear reason to be here.
Yes, yes. All right, well, RG3, thank you so much, man. We appreciate it.
Great interview. Big cut. Appreciate you. Appreciate you all, man.
Yeah, great interview. Big Cat.
Appreciate you.
Appreciate you all, man.
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Okay, let's wrap up the show.
With pardon your take.
Yes.
And one guy's on chicks via memes.
Oh, and one guy's on chicks.
Via memes, so it's-
It's memes.
This is a question from memes?
No, that little note was from memes,
about there's one guy's on chicks.
I think it's a question from memes. We'll like to hear the question
Can't hear you memes talking to Mike that was actually better than your stand-up set
Man that was so bad
Is this the guys on chicks? Yeah, no. Partner take.
Yeah, I said that to you.
I got nothing left, boys.
I'm on all the way past E.
That's why we're doing part in your take.
Please finish our show for us, listeners.
My husband and I have been married for six years every year on the Sunday before the
Super Bowl.
He pulls out a VHS player and says he has to watch a 1999 VHS tape from his childhood
called Super Sunday
because you can't interrupt the streak of Sunday football
and I have to lock in for Super Bowl week.
It's only about Super Bowls up to 1990.
I don't understand why he has to watch something
over 30 years old when he can find more relevant
football stuff to watch.
How weird is this?
It got a real short answer for him.
It's because the beer commercials were so much better
back then. You gotta watch old broadcast to really get the him. It's because the beer commercials were so much better back then.
You gotta watch old broadcasts
to really get the vibe of that era
and the beer commercials were just,
that was the art of the 80s and 90s.
You know what used to rule?
I don't know if they still do it.
The like 24 hours leading up to the Super Bowl,
they would do the NFL films of every Super Bowl.
That fucking rocked.
The 30 minute condensed version with some interviews and stuff
Ah, that was the best. Hope they still do that. Does anybody watch VHS still they don't know
Does anyone watch VHS where it's like, you know people listen to records on vinyl? No, I don't think the quality is better
Yeah, I know, but it's a problem. It's still kind of cool to watch VHS. Yeah the beginning
I was like and then the rewind.
Where it's like the FBI will shoot you
if you copy this tape.
I think I have a guess for this one.
Hypothetical question,
what would your guys dream sports moment be?
Like the moment you dreamt of as a kid,
a world series walk off, shoot out goal in the World Cup,
et cetera, et cetera.
Oh, if we're playing?
I would say making a buzzer beater.
I think.
March Madness.
What about like, your team's down two,
or two to one at the line, you get fouled,
hit two free throws.
Oh yeah, always as a kid, yeah, yeah.
Or like, your boys are trying to get 41 free throws,
you gotta get there.
Yeah.
You got to hit two of the last three.
You get fouled shooting a three pointer,
and then you make the first two,
and then someone comes on the court and abducts you, and they have to get the other guy to of the last three. You get fouled shooting a three pointer, and then you make the first two, and then someone comes on the court and abducts you,
and they have to get the other guy to shoot the last one.
Yeah, and your best boy is snoozing away on the couch,
studio.
Yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
Correct.
I got benched from the team,
so I wasn't contributing much anyway.
Was anybody else out there that got benched from the team?
We were rebounding.
No, I'm not talking about me.
No, PFT actually got promoted to the...
Yeah, I got promoted. I got brought down from the booth.
When was the last time Jim Nance got brought down
to the sidelines to get in there
and help the back up quarterback warm up?
This isn't about me.
I'm proud of you guys. PFT is Jason Witton.
We did it. Bax Whitton we did it back yeah we did it I asked even
Steven how mad were you that you missed it I'm not mad I was how we did a dog
pile it was great it looks great I you know the picture I was crying a little
bit I miss Jerry's home one too so it it is, you know, might just be like a Super Bowl.
I just gotta be in a concourse situation.
But I kind of dozed off being like, I'm gonna wake up
and we're still gonna be like,
it's gonna be 10 o'clock in the morning
and we still have to do the podcast
and I'm gonna miss my flight and vacation's ruined.
So I'm, at the end of the day the vacation still be you would not have missed your flight
What was that you would have stayed what did you just say? Yeah, what if there is a zero point zero percent chance
That you would have missed your flight. Absolutely. Oh, no, I would have missed
I would have stayed here forever that was the biggest lie I ever. No, you guys know I would have stayed here.
Doing what?
Rooting on the team. I couldn't let my team, you know, not hit that without me being there
to support.
Facts. I always dreamt of hitting a home run game seven of the World Series.
Are we on the NFL film? The VHL?
No, no, no, no. Your childhood sports member.
For me, it was, for me, it, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Dreamtab and he just retire and fuck. That's life. Yeah.
All right, last one.
Would you rather have DeMar Hamlin's on field experience
during when he died or have Alex Smith's leg injury?
Oh, DeMar, because you get a peak at the afterlife.
It's like Nikki Six, right?
Yeah, for sure.
You die for like seven minutes.
Yeah. Didn't Alex Smith
actually win comeback player of the year though?
Yeah, but his leg is all mangled.
It's a fair point by Hank though,
because he gets the glory.
Demar, all we've got is a fake punt.
No, I would rather be Demar.
I'd rather be Demar,
because you get to take a glimpse at the afterlife.
You get treated as a hero when you come back.
Okay.
You get a free clone.
Okay, only thing, only counterpoint is
Demar Hamlin definitely like, You get a free clone. Okay, only counterpoint is,
DeMar Hamlin definitely, like he's probably made a lot of money
or a decent amount of money off this
and being able to be associated with people,
someone will hire him,
but man, he's gotta basically answer the question
of like what was it like every day for the rest of his life.
Yeah, what does God look like DeMar?
Yeah, that would be tough.
Yeah.
Whereas no one really says like,
what was it like when your leg got mangled?
I think that Alex Smith, his career was good enough
where it might not be the first thing that comes to your mind
when you see Alex Smith.
It's probably the second.
It wouldn't be for me, it'd be like, oh yeah, Alex Smith.
Small hands. Yeah, oh yeah, Alex Smith. Small hands.
Yeah, oh yeah, Alex Smith, you were the guy before they won
all the Super Bowls.
Yeah, I'd be like, well Alex, what was it like showing
Patrick Mahomes how great he can be at football?
Yeah.
And also, wow, that was a really weird handshake
because your hands are small.
Do you think Alex Smith, I can't remember how the contracts
worked out and everything, but there definitely was a moment
where he's like, fuck this guy, he sucks.
Why did they give him my job?
You think so?
Yeah, and now he's just like, whoops.
I think I've seen some interviews with him
where he was like, yeah, he was just very clearly
a great quarterback the first time he got to camp.
Cause that probably happened like Drew Bletso
probably thought that, right?
Yeah.
I was like, this is bullshit.
Yeah, probably. Some Brady guy sucks, that thought that right? Yeah. I thought it was like this is bullshit. Yeah, probably.
This Tom Brady guy sucks.
That turned out wrong.
Yeah.
I bet you like even Brett Favre was like Aaron Rodgers he fell in the draft.
He sucks.
He's ready.
You only got one Super Bowl.
Yeah, true.
I don't know what else.
That's it.
Good question.
Good update.
Good question.
Good guys on Chicks Memes. Good guys on Chicks memes.
Good guys on Chicks memes.
Reminder, we're going on vacation finally.
Thank God we have.
It's not that we don't love you.
No, no, thank God for our body, mind and soul.
Yes.
Football season is very taxing.
It takes probably 10 years off our life
so we'll probably die next year.
But we have Dungeons & Dragons on Friday.
Ryan Russell NBA preview on Monday.
We will have new content on Monday to intro Ryan Russell.
So we'll recap NBA All Star Weekend quickly.
Watch Dungeons & Dragons everywhere.
The graphics team does a really good job
and puts a lot of work into it.
So make sure you watch it instead of, well you can listen to it and watch it.
Do both, download it.
Actually what you should do, it's like when you go to your friend's house and they're
listening to the radio broadcast of a game while the game's on, watch it on YouTube
while listening to the podcast.
I love that.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love that.
Numbers.
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18.
41.
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two soda max
Wait, did everyone guess?
Yeah, I don't think I have any channel here. Oh
My god, I do not know pug he was contemplating wait wait no, no. Did you not? Did you not hit reset?
No, I didn't hit reset. Oh, no, you definitely did you? Yeah, you definitely did because
We dropped it Pug and I were he was asking how the machine works and I tested it 99 back-to-back
No, it's not back-to-back. Well like on the show it is but we're I showed him how to do it earlier
It's like other numbers. No, it's 99 back-to-back
Okay But we're, I showed him how to do it earlier. It's like other numbers. No, it's 99 back to back.
Okay, okay, okay.
What the fuck?
It doesn't matter if you hit it with,
you and Pug are playing fucking tummy sticks in here.
If 69, the sexual position is represented by the numbers,
99 might actually be back to back.
Yeah, it literally, I, wait, is it back to back?
No, no, it's spoons.
Yeah, it's 99 spoons.
It's shaking pug when they come in here and hit the fucking lottery ball machine together. I'll do another one
He was contemplating his number, so I don't know if that would have should we wait should we text him right now and be like pug
What's your number?
No, ah, that doesn't count that doesn't count. All right
Numbers 41.
23.
18.
40.
21.
64.
Nintendo.
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