Pardon My Take - Roger Bennett, Joe Tessitore, NBA Playoffs Have Been Cancelled And We Rank Greek Things

Episode Date: June 30, 2021

The NBA playoffs have been cancelled after another injury (00:02:40 - 00:08:39). The Clippers are tough as shit and the Suns may be in trouble even though we're a Suns podcast (00:08:39 - 00:14:06). Talking Stanley Cup Final and Talking Soccer (00:14:06 - 00:24:00). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Big Cat Jinx and WFT new CEO (00:24:00 - 00:44:07). Roger Bennett joins the show to talk about his new book, his love for America, and Soccer (00:44:07 - 01:10:27). Joe Tessitore joins the show to talk Holy Moley, big game voices, favorite stadiums and more (01:10:27- 01:42:58). We finish with guys on chicks and billy's recap.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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You've heard him many times on all the big games. Tess is also on this show. We're going to talk everything. The NBA playoffs are big time bummer now. Hashtag LeBron was right. No, I mean, that was a joke, Hank. Obviously, I was testing to make sure you were listening. You are.

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That's what the NBA playoffs have become. Giannis, I don't know, he broke his leg, ACL, everything. Yeah, Dr. David PFT says, I personally think it's an MCL big cat. Yeah, and then. I think he may have escaped without an ACL. But whatever it is, his ligaments are not made out of ligaments.

They're made out of rubber bands, because it's crazy. My leg would have, my body would have just blown up. No, I mean. He's given up at that point. Shoot me like a horse, if that happens to me. Bring the tarp out. Trey Young wasn't even playing in this game. Is LeBron James correct?

Will LeBron James do another Instagram post saying he's correct? That's a definite. I'd actually say that we should give credit to Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller was mega right about resting the players. You should just, the new formula should be you sign star players, and then you just try to win all the playoff series against inferior teams with your roll guys,

and then you put your stars back in for the finals. Yes. And listen, Reggie Miller maybe has never seen a catastrophic knee injury, not saying that's what Yanis had. But you can walk with an ACL. You can walk. You can walk if you tear your ACL.

You can walk if you, what, you can. Like he was saying, oh my god, he's walking off. That means nothing. Yeah. That means nothing. Trey Young is on the bench, like jumping around. Trey Young is jumping around. I still believe, and I know that this has now become,

there's so many guys injured, that this is, it's the weirdest playoffs ever now that Chris Paul is the, Chris Paul and Paul George are the healthiest guys out there. But Kevin Herter, a lot of these guys, a lot of these injuries are kind of freak injuries, and I don't know if that has anything to do with playing the season with short and rests off of the bubble. I just think there's a lot of freak injuries.

They've happened all at once. Who knows? But it sucks. It's a bummer. The Bucks, it's just a fucking bummer. And I know that everyone was already saying like, oh, these playoffs are the best teams are out. You know, the Lakers got injured.

The Nets got injured. It doesn't really count. It's still an NBA title. If the Bucks had gone through and won the NBA title, like that still counts. No one gives a fuck about who else is injured. It sucks when you have this happen, and now they're showing Milwaukee the Deer District.

People got to be pretty bummed out. The Dojo. And I think, to be honest right now, so we're watching this with five minutes left in the game, and he's sitting on the bench. And I respect what he's doing. He's basically, in his head, he's probably like, if I can just sit on this bench

and not have the doctors look at my knee, maybe when I get up, when I stand up, I'll be okay. I've done that many times with my back and my ankles, where I've hurt them. And then I sat down, I'm like, you know what? If I just chill out for a minute, like when I get back up in 20 minutes from now, I'm gonna be fine.

I'm currently doing that with my kidneys. I've been doing that with my kidneys for the last two months. I just, I had one follow-up appointment, which I went to, and the guy was like, I gotta be honest, these are some of the most fucked up kidneys I've ever seen. He's got some bad boys. Yeah, he's like, sit down, son.

And then I just said, you know what? A great way to avoid getting any further bad news is just stop talking to doctors. So I just go to work every day, and I pretend like nothing's wrong. And then once every three weeks, I get a stabbing pain in my side. I'm like, well, body's taking care of itself.

So with any luck, if Giannis just stops going to doctors, you can never be diagnosed with an injury. I mean, side tangent off of that is, I really do think that we're a big enough company now that we should have a team doctor at Barstool Sports, who just sits upstairs and you can just walk in and be like, hey, I got kidney stones. Hey, my back hurts.

Now, how quickly that would become, hey, the team doctor at Barstool Sports prescribed, legally prescribed everything, I can't say. Probably pretty quickly. But we should have a team doctor. Back to the game. I do think the Hawks would have, they kind of were gonna win this game

without Giannis getting hurt. Like I know Hank just sitting there just saying game after every made shot. That was pre-injury. The Hawks were playing like a spirited, like, hey, we're coming out here, everyone in the world thinks we have no chance without Trey Young, fuck the world,

Lou Williams going off. Like, I don't know. I thought they were gonna win this game. It felt like they were gonna win this game before Giannis even got hurt. I gotta say, watching Trey Young jump up and down, it gives me like Lydanie and Tomlin on the sideline vibes.

Remember that? I think that was when Phillip Rivers was actually playing with the Tornado, which Reggie Miller was like, how is that possible? Yeah, I mean, Phillip Rivers is, not really a run first quarterback, but he was still playing in the AFC Championship game with it. But that's what, like Trey Young,

he's very animated for a guy with, he's got a bone bruise on the sidelines. Yeah, deep bone bruise. And he was playing the rest of the game on deep bone bruise. If you have to ask the question, is Atlanta better without Trey Young? Because you got, I mean, Kevin Herter, dude, you know he's the logo of his high school?

His high school changed their logo to like a silhouette of Kevin Herter after he graduated. He should be the new NBA logo. I love Kevin Herter. Kevin Herter. Ginger Jordan. Lou Williams, Lou Williams has been on fire as well. I think he's, yeah.

I do want to give a shout out to PJ Tucker though. Did you see his jersey tonight? It looked, he had like the little tear right down the middle of it. Pre-tare. Like he was ready to go Hulk Hogan with it at any given second. Unfortunately, they're losing by 24 points.

They probably won't get to do that. Yeah, this is, I don't know what, like imagine if the box, imagine if we watch the finals with the box with no Yanis or the, I do think Trey will be back just by like you said, like he's jumping up on the sideline. I think he'll be back.

I think so. For the rest of the series. And then we have on the other side, the never say die clippers who, look, we're a son's podcast, but credit where credit is due. The clippers are a fucking tough ass team. Like they just don't quit.

And Ty Luton needs all the, deserves all the credit in the world for being a really good coach that everyone kind of has clowned on, myself included. And Paul George, you know, he's still playoff P. We're not going to like, you can't let him off the hook for, what was it, 14 times he shot 25% or less?

Yeah, it was, it was like the most in NBA history. Yeah, one game doesn't erase that, but one game you do have to give him a lot of credit for going into, you know, Phoenix, putting up 30 in the second half, playing an unbelievable game. And the clippers just don't die. The problem with playoff P is that he never plays

a good game where he doesn't have any moments where he doesn't suck. So he always has, even in his best of games, he always kind of stinks for about a minute and a half. He throws a ball around or something. Yeah, he looks like gas at the end. He airballs a free throw or like bricks three in a row. Right.

From the line. Boogie cousins. Is that Capella? I think he got poked in the eye, I think. Capella's hurt now. Would you, okay. Oh, another one, LeBron. Come on.

He got poked in the eye. If they had been arresting, that never would have happened. I actually think that we should blame LeBron for these injuries. Yes. Because, okay, so let's take LeBron as word. It was his idea to try to arrest people more, right? Yeah.

Sounds like he didn't do a good enough job leading in building a coalition to get more people to agree with him. Listen, leadership is about accountability. And if you're LeBron James, you are the leader of the NBA players, right? I know technically Chris Paul is the head of the NBA PA, but Chris Paul answers to LeBron James clearly. Yes.

So LeBron, Jacques, I don't think that, you got to point a finger at yourself. The only, I mean, look, it's weird how many people have been injured, but LeBron, he's made all of his money. He has so much fucking money. I just think that when you tell, like, hey, the rest of the guys,

like we should have had a longer rest, there's serious dollars that are at stake here. If you're not playing, or if you're playing a significantly shortened season, guys don't get paid as much, like salary cap goes down. I don't know, I just think it's a little bit harder when it's coming from LeBron.

I know, I'm just taking an excuse to try to pin this on LeBron. He's not doing a good enough job making his point. I, listen, I'm very much one of the NBA fans that really I care, I root for ratings. So I want markets to, I want big markets to do well. If people aren't watching the games, that to me is the biggest loss of all.

So do you think that at this point with all the stars that are injured, you could get more people to watch them play in a wheelchair basketball game than to watch, like, let's call it a Clippers Hawks Finals? Either way though, the ratings are gonna be screwed this year because of the July. Yeah, July definitely.

That's automatic out. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Regardless of if it was LeBron versus the Nets, like I think the ratings still probably would have been down. I think people would watch a wheelchair game just because it would be different. I'd watch one game. Yeah.

I don't know if that would be, you know, like appropriating, definitely. Yeah, I think it would. I think you did that when you did the scooter thing. Yeah, I did. I absolutely did. But like being like, look at Kyrie Cantor, Trey Young, deep bone bruised, needs a wheelchair.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that would fly. Paul Pierce shit himself. Yeah, I don't think that would fly. Where would you say, Jake? To your point earlier, Ty Lu, 10 and two in his career when facing elimination. It's crazy.

It started with the 3-1 Cavs Warriors doing their own. And there are certain teams that like they, their coach instills that type of toughness, like scrappiness, that is the Clippers. Like they, everything in your body tells you that the Clippers are dead man walking. Their best player is out. They're going to Phoenix.

Phoenix has got a chance to go to the finals for the first time in like almost 30 years at home. And they just go in there. And there was a moment too in the third or fourth quarter where it felt like the Clippers were totally gassed and they just kept on fighting. Reggie Jackson, by the way, like that guy, when he went on that 8-0 run with a dunk,

he is, he's fucking awesome. He's like everything you want from that guy. There's just a spark plug guy who comes in and is like, hey, we can rely on him to just get insanely hot for a few minutes and carry us. So yeah, the Clippers deserve a lot of credit. I, who do you think wins this series? I do think it would be very funny.

I, we are sons podcast. It would be very funny if Chris Paul blew another 3-1 lead. I think the Suns are still gonna win. In the one year that everyone's hurt except Chris Paul. Yeah, I think, I think that would be funny. I think the Suns are still gonna win. We're sons podcast.

I think it's gonna be Suns Hawks and Suns and Four. Suns and Four, Suns Hawks, Suns and Four. So about Chris Paul, that flop he had last night, he is gonna get hurt flopping. Like he's a danger to himself because he loves flopping so much. But the best part about that flop was it was a true internet meme come to life

that he flopped and I was sitting in the office with the spit and chicklets guys. As he was flopping, the Brendan Gallagher getting his face smashed into the ice and blood everywhere was happening in the Stanley Cup final game. And it was like so perfect that those happened almost like the exact same time.

And I don't know, the lightning are an absolute wagon. I have actually a paragraph I wanna read to you real quick. This is a true hockey guy paragraph. So this is from the Montreal Gazette from Stu Cowan. He wrote about Brendan Gallagher, he's just like William Wallace, the late 13th century Scottish warrior that the 1995 film Braveheart was based on

with Wallace leading the Scots in the First War of Scottish Independence against England's King Edward. If they ever do a remake of Braveheart, which won the Best Picture Award in the 1996 Academy Awards, Gallagher could replace Mel Gibson in the lead role playing Wallace. I fucking love it.

I love hockey guys. That's a real, it's incredible. That's a real newspaper wrote that. Who won that movie? Good point. They fought like warrior poets Hank, they fought like Scotsmen, they won their freedoms. Speaking of that, that's the Canadians in this series.

I think they probably will get shit pumped by the lightning. Well, no, they could come back and when they're, someone's dick is getting cut off at the end. That's all that we know for sure. Yes. Yeah, I mean, the lightning looked like they're almost unbeatable, but I do feel like we should take some time

to point out the fact that the lightning, the cap gymnastics on the part of the lightning. But I have no problem with that. We talked about it with Biz. Yeah, cap gymnastics. No, I mean, that's, there's the rules. I just like, they talked about the exact same thing. They're capping, big cap.

Yeah, it's capping. Listen, Hank, I found one way to make an excuse out of my prediction of the Canadians winning and that's just like putting all my eggs in these guys' cheat by exploding the cap rules basket. So that's what I'm gonna stick with. But we, when we had Biz on, like the only time he was coherent was talking about,

or maybe it was with Whitney talking about exactly this, that like, what are you gonna do? You can't, it's the rules. The black ox did in 2015. Now that was a little different because Patrick King got hurt in the season. They did it where, who is it? Kuturov was just out all year and then they brought him back.

But the rules are stupid. Like the rules are stupid that there's no, the salary cap doesn't count in the playoffs. Well also, is that, and it's also if you have players that are good enough to get, like if you can get to the playoffs with some of your stars injured that you're paying a lot of money to, then that benefits you.

So that just means that the rest of your team is really good and then you can get those superstars back and their money doesn't necessarily count. The rules sucks. So the rules sucks. And I also think that if you're in the NHL, they're so bad at doing everything related to governing the game.

You could just have a bunch of star players and pay them too much money and probably never get caught. It's like the Rams trading draft picks that might not even exist. You can just lie. You can just say, okay, we're only paying this person this much money. And I don't think that the NHL has like an investigative

force that will come by and look too deeply into your books. Just cheat. So the Canadians, it looks like it's gonna be a tough one for them. I mean, the lightning, everyone was predicting the Canadians and by the way, a couple people say, I say that wrong. I put a little French into it.

I think that's what you should do. It's les habitants. Yeah. Little Canadian. Everyone was predicting their demise for the last two rounds. I think maybe this is the time that they've truly met their match. Yeah.

A hot goalie can only get you so far. The lightning are just fucking good. They're really fucking good. And fuck their leg, Greg. Speaking of French, should we talk a little soccer? Oui. Oh, je suis désolé, le Suisse, un gagne pour le Suisse. Our favorite 19-year-old is the goat

for all the wrong reasons. That was a wild, two wild games on Monday. It's growing pains, growing pains for him. The Euro. This is for the... The Euros, bro. Yeah. Is it the every year thing?

Every four years, it's two years when there's not the World Cup. Yeah, it's the Euros. So at the same time as the Euro is happening, the Copa in South America is happening. It was funny, because Hank was like, you're like, I'm so over soccer. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I was never, I was never under soccer. But you did say it today. You're a significant league fan. You said it today when Monday had objectively, like maybe the craziest day of international soccer ever in terms of how crazy both those games were. They were insane. The England fans were cool today.

I'll give them that. I don't want to be a soccer hater. I don't want to sound like a soccer hater. I just... You say coming off as one. Doesn't do it for me, because that's fine. You know what? I'm happy for you guys.

He's not really coming off as soccer. He's coming off as uncultured. Yeah, that's true. Someone did say that when I talk soccer, they were like, you sound so much smarter. I was like, thank you. You really bring in down the sophistication level of this podcast.

We are a football podcast. Football. Football. Right now. And yeah, it's coming home. I like England. The problem with England is, right now they look convincing and they're winning against Germany.

Now they have expectations. They're the favorites to win. And that's a very bad place for England to be. We'll get into it a little bit with Roger Bennett, which we recorded like, what, two weeks ago? Yeah, before any of this. But now there's severe expectations on England. And that is prime, like Harry Kane's gonna miss

a penalty kick in the semifinals. He's gonna sky it like Bajio, hit the moon with it. It is great how it seems like it's just 95% dudes in the stands just going fucking ballistic. Yeah. Glad. Taking their tops off, fucking check, I think, maybe. No, the Swiss guy.

No, but there was, no, you know, but I'm saying like the Swiss guy was electric. The entire, it might have been Croatia or Czech, but whatever, like they went to it and it was every guy had their top off and none of them should be tops off. Like they were all 30 to 40 pounds overweight, but they were just vibing out together.

That sounds like Czechoslovakia. Yeah, I think it was Czech. I think Croatia, if you saw them, a lot of those dudes are in shape. They got Yacht Week to get ready for. Yeah, that's true. Yacht Week is the... We should do Grit Week, Yacht Week at some point.

There was a brief second where I was like, I'm gonna do Yacht Week. And then I realized I'm not attractive or in shape ever to do Yacht Week. Like Yacht Week is the week that you show up to because you saw a commercial on Instagram and you're like, all right, so when does the fucking start? And they're like, oh.

I'm here. You shouldn't have signed up for this. My body's here. We're gonna stash you under, we're gonna stash you like fucking Leo in the Titanic down on like the fourth deck. There should definitely be somebody that's like the Navy. The Croatian Navy should be in charge

of policing the waters, just to make sure no unhot people do. Yeah, right. You're too ugly. Get out of here. Yeah, go over to Greece. No, Greece is hot too. Is Greece hot?

Yeah, Greece is hot. Harry, but hot. Yeah, Harry. Very, very hot. And listen, I love the Greeks. Yes. Great lemon soup. Great lemon soup.

Great Euros. I love Giannis. Giannis? Great ligaments in Greece. Great economy. Good system of government. Sick Instagram. 3,000 years ago.

Pictures in that one hotel with like the white roofs. They've got great blues. Good blue colors over there. Great blues. A lot of smart guys in back in the day. That's true, but also kind of pedophiles. Yeah, disavow. A lot of them.

Disavow. Disavow that. Teziki is elite. Teziki is Peter. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Great sauce. And the elite one, yeah. Hummus.

The 300, they had 300, just dudes. Dudes, Spana Copa, when it's done, where is the best? That was Rome. That was Sparta. Sparta, yeah. Right? Saganaki, the flaming cheese.

That shit is awesome. Russell, yeah. It's like going to Hibachi. It's like, you clap for it. It's an experience. Like, oh shit, they lit the cheese on fire. Pete Sampras. Pete Sampras, the Greatest Greek Athlete.

Very Harry, extremely. I would say. Wait, it was. Jimmy the Greek. Jimmy the Greek. No, no, just about, just about. What else we got? Greeks.

I think Agassi may have been from, like, Syria. Mythology. Mythology, yep. Neptune. Kind of hit that. One's got to go. Zeus, Poseidon, Nike, Hercules. Nike is a god?

Oh yeah. Achilles, Achilles was what? He was a Greek god, right? Yeah, he was my god. He's an Olympian. Achilles, no. Achilles, I love Poseidon. Achilles was injury prone.

Yeah. He got fucking smoked on his, on his, like, yeah. Poseidon was awesome. He was the original, like, you know, the playoffs were kind of ruined once he got taken out. Yeah. Oh, Zeus, dude. Why don't we mention Zeus?

Yeah, it was the Trojan War, right? Zeus was, Zeus is the best. Zeus is the guy. Yeah, but one's got to go. Wait, what was it again? I think I said Zeus, Poseidon, Nike, Achilles. Achilles, yeah. Yeah, you get Achilles.

Gotta go, gotta go. Why ability? See ya. Listen, it's a, put a first start up league. From, uh... Your best ability is availability, Achilles. Smoke? Was it Medusa or smoke?

No, Medusa's the god of sex. The fact chick with the octopus all over the place. She had a great personality. Yeah. Oh, well, my thank you. She was cool. She was like a softball catcher. She was like a, yeah.

It's a chick that's, like, down to hang, you know? Like one of the guys. Those who gazed into her eyes would turn to stone. To Medusa? Yeah. Damn. Sounds hot. That's hardcore.

I'm perceptive. Wait, yeah, isn't that getting rock hard? Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Hold up. Yeah, cause like if I were to be, if I were to hypothetically say something like that to Miley Cyrus,

it'd be like Miley, look me in the eye and turn my entire body to granite. I would get bonked, right? That's like an Anthony Wiener text being like you, like you're so hoppy, but I just turned into stone. Yeah. All right, I don't know how we got here. Greeks.

Yeah, Greeks. All right, so that was our Euro talk. That was talking soccer. Euro 2020, which I liked that they're doing that by the way. Gyro 2020. It says Euro 2020 and I had, I actually had a moment today where I was like, is it 2020 still?

No, it's like the Olympics. They're doing it again this year. It's 2020. Like you should just, everyone should just lie the last year didn't happen. Yeah. Everyone gets a, everyone gets a red shirt year. Mm-hmm.

That's, we all, we all get to say that we're a little younger. It is a medical red shirt. Yeah. Yes. All right, we were about to do hot seat cool throne, but we thought of a couple others. Stavros from come town. Great Greek.

Great Greek. Greece the movie. Greece the movie and one and two. Greece two. My big fat Greek wedding. Yeah. Oh fuck. We're now back on a roll boys.

We've seen it. We're back on a roll. Get him to the Greek. Get him to the Greek. The face that launched a thousand ships. Versace. What was her name? Helen.

It was Helen. What was Helen's bod like? Cause I feel like they're drawing a lot, making a lot of noise about her face. She was hot in the movie, Troy. Yeah. Alexander. Troy personal.

Is he Alexander the Greek? The great. Alexander the great. Oh, Play-Doh. It's how it would've been funny if it was Alexander the Greek. Wait, which guys are we disavowing? I don't know. I think I just.

Socrates. Socrates. Socrates, I think is one of those dudes that would just like eat grapes at the pool and fuck boys. Yeah, he was, he got arrested for corrupting the youth. This was like 3,000 years ago. Fucking Pythagoras. Oh, you're okay with it then?

No, but like, I don't know. Wait, wait, like you're talking about Socrates like this was his pre-woke period? Like, oh, he's evolved. What about Kevin Euclis, the Greek guy who walks? I mean, they, yeah. Fuck yeah. Shut up, Moneyball.

Tom Brady's brother-in-law. Yeah. I think we got, all right, we got it all. Fuck, this was good. Billy Yellen, Rick Petino. Yeah. Yeah, coach of Greece. Greece, he's doing it tonight.

It's crazy. He's a great coach. You think in the bedroom, he's got a ref stand next to him? Like, yeah, that's on the foul line. And then he's like, yeah, not too much to Siki sauce. We love Rick though, like Rick, I hope he takes the boys to the Olympics. All right, now let's go to Hot Sequel Drone.

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just because of Big Cat. He didn't do anything wrong. Only crime he committed was just having Big Cat join his bandwagon and then motion him to fourth place on Monday night. All time. One hand. Is that the Kenny Powers attack?

The guy that looks like Kenny Powers with a mullet. He was like an Olympic hopeful. Everyone was saying he's going to make it. He's going to make it. He's going to make it. He was racing at 1 a.m. after we recorded on Sunday. That was what he did. Big Cat was up tweeting about it going crazy.

And he came in fourth. But I told you. Didn't qualify. But Hank, I. By one place. I specifically told you that I was going to go to sleep, pretend that he qualified and just forget everything and hope that he just showed up at the Olympics.

And then last night. Is he going to be like first alternate? Well, so there's, I got, this was, this was Sunday night. Just say he's first alternate. I get home and I see it. So this guy. He got fucked in the race.

So he got like bumped out. Yeah, no, he was getting elbowed. It wasn't really his fault. Rather than his racing. So like three days before someone had tweeted about it. I'd seen it. And I was like, this guy fucking rocks. He drove to the meet in an RV.

I was like, I'm a Craig Engels guy. And then I'm laying in bed about to go to sleep. And someone tweets to be like, dude, you staying up for your boy Craig Engels in 15 minutes. I was like, God damn it. So I stayed up. I was like, Craig Engels, let's go. He fucking finishes fourth.

And then there's some, these track nerds are telling me, like there's this rule that you have to run a fast time to get the standard. But then there's all these points. Basically, I just didn't sleep on Sunday night cause I was trying to figure out track rules, fuck track rules, free my man, Craig Engels. I feel like it should just be in terms of qualification.

Just take like the fastest 10 times in the world, regardless of who runs them. And then those fastest 10 people get to run. I also think that Craig Engels, this guy could make a shitload of money, just hustling people. Well, if he made it to the Olympics. Like, no, no, not even in the Olympics.

I'm saying like just being like a sandbag or just showing up places. Like he's got a runner's body though. Yeah, but he steps out of his RV wearing jeans and like a jacket and smoking a cigarette. He's like, you want to race? There's a lot of race hustlers out there. I think it could be the start of an industry.

Just like, Hey man, you want to race me 100 bucks on the table right now. Let's do it. I would say, No, you look way faster than me. But you missed the point where he's wearing jeans and like a long sleeve. I would still not race any one.

Def Leppard T-shirts. You do it? No, I'm saying there are people out there that think that they're fast. Got it. That might be in really good shape. And they see old Craig E stepping off the RV. I was very unfortunate.

I felt very bad. I really wish he made the Olympics. It's like cool. But I'm sure he's got a really nice job to set up at Home Depot. Isn't that like all the Olympics? The Olympians all have jobs at Home Depot. They only give you jobs there if you make the team.

It's like a car dealership in college town. Craig, we will give you a job. Barstool Sports. You can start as an intern. This is really offensive now to Craig Engels. And then last last night, the the Suns were coming back. I think they were within one possession. There was like 94, 98.

Big Head said the Clippers looked bad. And then they went on a run and just blew the game out of water. Never was in doubt. Also on Sunday, right after that tweet. Travelers opened the eight playoffs. And I was like, I think I'm rooting for this Kramer dude. And he lost like two, two minutes later.

So yeah, it's, it's whatever, you know, whatever. My cool throne was the lads, also Sopranos. Yeah, yeah. The trailer for the new movie. It's a movie. I thought it was a TV show. The fact that it's a movie is a little bit worrisome. I don't know.

You're worried? Why, why does that worry you? I just feel like it's going to be hard. The TV show was so good because, you know, you can extend the episodes, make them long, have it played out over, over seven seasons. Sometimes they try and compact it all into two hours. It's worrisome, but it's James Gandolfini's son

is playing James Gandolfi, Tony Soprano, young Tony Soprano, looks exactly like him. Same mannerisms and stuff. I read an interview where he said he, that's wild. He didn't watch the show until he did the audition. Really? Yeah, like he's like, I remember it.

I remember obviously my dad being around and doing the show when I was a little kid, but I never watched it or anything until I was doing the audition. It was super sad because I had to watch my dad the whole time. So this is, it's a prequel to what happened to Sopranos. I saw the trailer for it.

I loved every second of it, except is there a way where I can just fast forward any scene that Tony's mom's in? It's just like, she just reminds me too much. She's the most annoying character. Well, we'll see what younger Tony's mom is. But she's already like annoying. Maybe they'll CGI her again. Yeah, maybe.

That would be, yeah, I mean, she died in real life. That's why they CGI'd her. Spoilers. Right, yeah. Shall I go? Yeah. Okay, my hot seat is sexism. Sexism's on the hot seat because

the Washington football team hired a female co-CEO today. So there are two CEOs right now, Dan Snyder's one, and then they have a female co-CEO that they hired. So it's just like, let's get the best person working here regardless of their gender. It's a meritocracy in the NFL, so I'm very excited. I'll say it till I'm blue in the face. The Washington football team is doing what needs to be done

to win in the NFL. It's a lead up to go. And it's Dan Snyder's wife. There it is. So. I love that it was so funny. We had a long interview process for it. Yes.

And it's, I think we have to, do we have to take Dan Snyder's man card for sure? Oh, you're gonna share the team with your wife, bro? It's like, what company has two CEOs? Johnson and Johnson. That's true. Mike and Mike. That's true.

No, not anymore. The Property Brothers. Yep. All right. That is true. Listen, all the great organizations, Hank. It's a long list. You had out there.

Yeah, that was very funny that it was like trending. I was like, wait, they hired a, oh, okay. Yeah. So I don't know, it's probably not gonna make a single bit of difference, depending on what happens with the report that's eventually gonna come out, or maybe they're just pulling like,

what we do with a doctor, and they're just never gonna put the report out that they commissioned. Yes. But depending on what they say in that, it might be a way for Denison to be like, I've transitioned the role of CEO to my wife. It would be also funny if he made his wife the fall guy.

Yeah. Like just set her up to then take all the blame. She can't testify against him. There he is. Has been in wife. So yeah, my other hot seat is Poo Shiesty. Poo Shiesty, the rapper. I'm sure you're all familiar with him, Hank.

Yeah, so he got arrested because he was committing a robbery down in Miami, and he brought his own money to the robbery, as one does. He had like a bag filled with $100 bills, and he dropped the bag out of the side of his rental car during the robbery where he shot a guy, and then they took the bag,

and they compared the serial number on the $100 bill to some serial dollars, or serial numbers he had flashing cash in his Instagram stories from like a month before, matched up personally. So Poo Shiesty got a federal charge to that. I'm pretty sure the car he was driving to, he used in one of his music videos.

So that was another like. Yeah, Poo Shiesty, not a. Match it up. Yeah. Not a criminal mastermind. I really thought he would be. He also has a lyric that was like, I can't stop doing robberies, still man, damn.

At least he's honest. Dude, I went down a little Poo Shiesty rabbit hole today. He's shot like four people in the last year, apparently. Ooh. Like the dude can't stop shooting. His ad lib is sick though. His ad lib? Yeah.

I know that's what I've been saying about him. It's unfortunate. It's like. I feel like I want to have my bad side. So I'm a Poo Shiesty guy. Yeah. Big Poo Shiesty podcast. My cool throne is the German coach who is eating boogers.

Yeah. He got caught eating boogers again on the sidelines. He also went, he also smells his ass. Yeah. He smells his ass, smells his armpits, eats his own boogers. He can't stop. Actually with England,

I was thinking about this earlier. Is this a dead mascot tournament for England? Because of Phil? No, because I feel like it's got to be the queen, right? But he's a mascot. Yeah. It's the queen dies. I'm putting my mortgage on it.

Yeah, right. I think it's, I think it's, I think it's like maybe one game, but also, I don't know, 99. Dude, RIP Phil though. Let's do a moment of silence. Big ups to our guy Phil. One.

He's out there. What? Only half of his sons are pedophiles. Yeah. We're disavowing soccer teams, but we're fucking Prince Philip. You're talking about Prince Andrew, right? Yeah.

Prince Andrew, the guy who doesn't sweat. Yeah. So that's, hey, 50%, that'll get you in the MLB all day. Prince Andrew should develop deodorant, like antiperspir. He should be like, hey, this is Prince Andrew for Old Spice.

All right. Oh, Billy's just like that one. I don't know what he's doing. He's hurting some down. All right, my hot seat is Scotty Pippin. He's just got to stop talking. I actually think he's doing a great job of pitching this bourbon or Cognac or whatever.

He's got a book. He's got the combo. So I guess, yeah, you're right. In a weird way, he's doing a great job because everyone's talking about Scotty Pippin, but calling Phil Jackson racist for drawing up a winning play to Tony Koo Coach. And it goes against like everything that everyone knows,

not only that Phil Jackson, like he wouldn't, like that's Jerry Krause's guy, Tony Koo Coach. So why would he call up a winning play for him? And then also like Scotty Pippin, like the whole thing, Scotty Pippin, you hated Tony Koo Coach. You said it in the documentary when he came over, like all these things make no sense.

So it was nice to see Scotty Pippin just go like, he just shot the moon. You know what I mean? He's like, fuck it, Phil Jackson's racist. The only thing I'm pissed off about is like, what are we, chopped liver, Scotty Pippin? You're going on all these different podcasts and shows and leveling just fiery takes and wild accusations.

And you can't be bothered to zoom in to part of my take. Do you think Scotty Pippin, maybe this is what he's doing and he's just a sneaky genius. Do you think like maybe he calls up everyone that he played with and all his friends? He's like, listen, I'm gonna say some shit, but none of it's real.

Maybe. I'll talk to you in August. Or he's on a Scorched Earth tour, just getting back at everybody that's ever slept with. Oh, yeah. But it sucks. I think he just needs to stop talking because I love Scotty Pippin, but it feels like he just keeps going.

He just keeps going and going. And I don't think he's done. I think he's, is the book even out? No, Scotty. Care to come on part of my take and discuss? Yeah. I will absolutely. No, I don't actually, no, I don't want him on here

because he'll just say a lot of stuff that will like hurt me. November 16th, 2021. Oh my God, we have so many months. Wait, he'll say stuff about you? No, no, no. I'm saying he'll say stuff that like, you'll get him set up to say something that's like, Michael Jordan's a fucking loser or something.

Yeah, I want him to say that on this show. I don't want to do that. Scotty, stay away. Big Cat, think about how many retweets that quote card would have. Yeah. Michael Jordan is a loser. No one would even put part of my take on it.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. All right, my cool throne. This was actually my who's back because I thought we were doing who's back, but it's still, it's relatable to me, but I think it's relatable to everyone. My who's back is Goody Bags.

So I've been doing the two year old circuit, birthday party circuit. I forgot about Goody Bags. Yeah. They fucking rock. So is it like, you know, when you go to a movie and you watch a Disney or Pixar movie, it's like, there's some stuff in there for the adults too.

Do they include like- No, no, I haven't had that yet, but just the idea, like think about like the, cause one was the last time we got ahead of Goody Bag, like 25 years. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to think when I fuck Derek Jeter. But it's, you get a gift for going to a party.

That's incredible. It's amazing. Yeah. It's the best. So what goes into a two year old's Goody Bag? I imagine- Toys. Can I guess?

Yeah, there's toys. Like a little figurine maybe of my favorite TV show. You don't know ages. So you're like, all right. So it's like car keys. Game boy. Yeah, right. Challenge 24.

Yeah. But yeah, Goody Bags are fucking awesome. So I just, I just, you probably haven't thought about Goody Bags in a really long time. They're back in my life. And yeah, just getting a gift for showing up to a party is just a hilarious concept that makes no sense,

but it's really cool. How does that work with like a two year old's birthday party? Do you, do all the parents like just stand around the outside of a ring? Like it's a giant octagon filled with toddlers and just make sure no one's hurting each other? No, I mean, no, you, no, they just let them go. Yeah, they walk.

I mean, they're, they're like real people. Like free range. Yeah. Yeah. Free range kids. Go for it. All right. Anything the sun touches.

Yeah. It's yours. Jake, go ahead. Hot seat is Mike Francesa. Tweet slash video resurfaced from three years ago when he said, quote, the Yankees are lucky they didn't get him in regards to Shohei Utani who hit to him while home runs off from the Yankees today.

Yeah. So Mike and the Mad Dog. That's tough. Couple of years ago. Cool Throne is Big Cat Your Goat, Novak Djokovic. In his opening round of Wimbledon, he won a game in 44 seconds. Four consecutive aces, I'd never seen that before.

What? It's insane. It's the quickest you can ever win a game. The guy does not come within five feet of hitting the ball. It's incredible. It's actually one of the craziest games I've ever seen. As I both tweeted it yesterday. When you said he won a game, I thought

that he won the entire game. No. I thought that too. I thought that too. I clicked into it. I thought the guy was going to retire in one second or something. There's a point. There's a game.

There's a set. I know. But I'm just saying my cool sports brain was like, wow, he won the whole thing. I'm watching it right now. Like, it's unbelievable. This guy's not even trying. No, it's just incredible serves.

There's nothing you could do about it. Maybe like move over to the right a couple feet. Oh, like just fade in? You can go one instead of down the tee. Just be like, ah. Right. That's what I'm saying. If I would break an ankle or something,

you have to fake an injury. He's also just leaving the middle open. Yeah. Dude, play some defense. So at some point, you just got to guess one way or the other and just like sprint to that side right when he serves it. Hope that you're correct. Right.

No, he didn't even try. At least get a hand on something if you don't get aced four times. He didn't even try. 44 seconds. That seems incredible. Dude, he hit it in the same spot every single time. Hey, Hank, I can't help but notice that your caption was, I would take a fall and say my ankle was broken if this happened

to me four times in a row playing tennis. That sounds a lot like what happened last summer with Jake Marsh, where he hurt his ankle. Was that a, are you taking a shot at Jake? No, that wasn't. It is strangely coincidental that you say that, but I think Jake was winning that tennis match. That's the only difference.

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We will be at a Dave and Buster's soon, guaranteed. OK, here he is, Roger Bennett. OK, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests. He's back in studio, which is fantastic to see you. It is Roger Bennett. He has a new book out, which so when you listen to this podcast, it will be out. It is called Reborn in the USA, an Englishman's love letter

to his chosen home. America. America? No, I mean, let's start here. You're more American than us at this point. I think I am more American than Kid Rock. Bruce Springsteen, Kenny Powers, if you squash them all together, that's kind of approaching

your American mind levelness. Do you feel like? Yeah, do you feel like you know more about America than we do? Right now, to be honest, what do I feel? I feel excited to be in the same room as the human being that singlehandedly stopped the Super League. Yes, Super League.

Yes, Super League dead, mistaken to it. I noticed you didn't thank me. Well, it's not every day you get to meet someone that's performed that kind of task, both geopolitically with those kind of consequences. I mean, you think who's in your category? Jesus. You think Mother Teresa may be arguably in with a shout.

Your listeners will no doubt get bono. Definitely. You like bono, but less modest. That would be sick if we could actually force people to have iPhones that had our podcast already on it. Yeah, no, that is. That's how we got number one. Wait, so all right.

So the big question about the Super League, you obviously were against it. Football is a sport. We had our guy troops on saying that, you know, soccer or basketball is a business. Baseball is a business. Football is a sport. It's for the people.

But with all that said, it would have been sweet to watch the Super League. You are flipping sides. No, I'm just saying. I'm saying I'm happy that it's gone. But if you if I told you, you cannot be both this. I told you if swooped in the hour of need when the working class right game, right?

I did all that. I was about to truly be submerged. You cannot be the gentleman that saw the bat single and then swooped in to save all of us. Save humanity. I don't like to be hyperbolic, but you to save humanity. You cannot be that person.

And then when in walks me to bend the knee, you cannot be the person who then tries to flip it over. Hear me out. Maybe I made a mistake. Yeah, hear me out. Hear me out. I'm happy the Super League didn't happen. It was a bad idea.

It would have ruined football, soccer. But I then had a moment like a week later. I was like, you know, it would be sick. If I'm like a Wednesday afternoon in November, Barcelona was playing Liverpool. They still are. For the Super League. They still are.

No, maybe not though. They still are. Maybe not the same though. It doesn't have the history behind it. Like the Super League. Super League. You're just trolling me. The reality is football is amazing.

It allows us to feel things like emotions that most normal people feel in real life. Happiness, sadness, joy, failure. But you know, I'm dead to inside to football. Sports in general allows us to feel those things. And it's a, in came the shakes, in came the oligarchs, in came the American sports owners.

Don't blame LeBron James. Blame LeBron James. But you know, I'm not pointing a finger at LeBron James, but Liverpool, it was within weeks of him taking ownership. That's true. The flip was switched. I like what you just brought up though, because I think it does ring true

that sports allows psychopaths to feel human for a moment. To pretend they're human. And we invited in these American sports owners, because many of the ones who were the ring leaders in this, it's hard for me as someone has, we've already established is like possibly, I don't like to blow my own horn, possibly the most American human being of all time.

All time. All time. And in came the American as your Stan Cronkies, who it's not clear to me actually knows he owns Arsenal. I think it may just be a rounding error. He does it. And he knows he owns one of those NFL teams. He's not quite sure which one.

He knows he owns a hockey team. And he's, you know, the football thing, it's not clear to me actually. I think he thinks he owns Manchester City. I actually agree with you. I was, when we were watching in the office, because troops is a huge Arsenal fan, we were watching Europa and they were playing Villareal.

I'm saying all these names wrong. No, no, no, everybody else is saying the wrong. You're saying it right. Yes, exactly. And then like it was like a Thursday afternoon at, you know, 12, 30, I was like, there is no chance that Stan Cronkies watching this game right now.

Yeah, no, sir. I believe Cronkies is probably that gentleman with loads of lackeys. And he's ultimately, we won the league again, right guys? And they're all just like, yeah, yeah, tell him he owns Manchester City. So you got your Cronkies, you've got your Boston Red Sox owners,

and you've got your Glazers, your Tampa Bay owners who own Manchester United. And we welcome them all in. They've got ideas, they've got new, you know, brilliant ways of running things. And we welcome it. It was a bit like that old sci-fi show, V, where we welcomed in like the aliens

who seem nice and out of space. And then they showed they had forked tongues and started to eat all the English people. And it was, I'm not gonna lie, it was a bit dark trying to turn what is precious, what has grown over a century, just the evolution, the history, the traditions, and to try and turn that into WrestleMania

was a bit dark. But WrestleMania is awesome. That sounds awesome. There you go. WrestleMania is the top selling ticket of the summer. Yeah, bad every summer. Use another analogy, because you just were like,

they try to turn it into the best thing that's ever been created. They try to turn it into rough and rowdy then. Oh no, come on. But that actually is probably more apt. The reality is that you, I love American sports. I love the Bears, I love the White Sox,

I love the Capitals, I love, I mean, American sports is remarkable, but I don't understand why, you know, American sports seems like, okay, St. Louis, Ram's are leaving. Okay, see ya. And then you fans just embrace them. I'm like, why are you not all saying

that you could all lose your teammate? You should all rise up. Should all not let this happen. Honestly, because our TV is so much better. Yeah. That's what it comes down to. Like in England, you're like, ah, shit, what am I gonna watch?

The like, the baking show again? No, I better go out and riot. Over here, it's like we have unlimited options. Do you tell the two options? Yeah. By the way, by the way. Mr. Bean, Mr. Bean as well. I will say.

On loop. I will say those two options are pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. For most English people. Pretty good. You what? The decision tree, bake off or riot.

Yeah. And then maybe you'll be like, what day is it today? What did we do yesterday? New episode of Bake Off. I'm sorry. All right. Let's watch Bake Off. I can say, what I don't want to do

is to sit here on your couch and look down upon people for whom rioting or bake off is enough in life. But I will say in my book, which I write about, this book is a love letter to America. I mean, it's been a crazy year. This is actually the first time I have left my studio. I built a studio at the beginning of COVID

and just tried to create content every day. Like Churchill hunkered down in the war room, just in these dark hours is where the true character of human beings is defined. I've tried to create as much as possible. And it was a weird time for America and there was no sports. Didn't really know what to do.

So I wrote this book and about my love of America. I tried to think, I went back to like, I love this place. This is the place I've organized my life around. The idea of America is the thing there's been a beacon of courage and tenacity and joy.

I grew up in Liverpool in the 1980s. It's the greatest city in the world. It was a dark and twisted place in that time. An employment, super high. Not a lot of hope. It was written off by Mrs. Thatcher. She really demonized the city. We had music, we had football,

not much else, huge heroin epidemic. And the city life has lived in black and white and I kind of survived by connecting to American culture. Like, I realized English culture was all about, don't worry, there's people who are more miserable than you. You're not bad offs. Enjoy their misery. Just soak that up, their misery.

They're worse off than you. And it in came American television, Miami Vice. Michael, we hadn't, Teal had not even been invented in Liverpool when I saw that show. Moonlighting, heart to heart, all that crap. And I was just like, oh my God, that is what I want. So in a large way, bake off or riot,

ultimately was not for me. But the third option, yeah. It is, which is... Soap operas. Bruce Springsteen and... Yeah, public enemy. My God, that's Tracy Chapman. Tracy Chapman, that's actually on your Wikipedia page that you're a huge Tracy Chapman fan.

I don't know how that got on. How big of a Tracy Chapman fan do you have to be in order to have that listed as one of your characters? I have never touched my Wikipedia page, which is like, my birth date is wrong. All kinds of crap is wrong on there. And I left it all. Everyone's like, fix it, fix it.

But I'm like, you know, when you do an interview with someone, you kind of know whether they've done their research when they're like, you were born, 19 September. And I'm like, okay, I know what the interview's gonna be. But there's someone beautifully, if it's you listening, because I know everybody in America legally has to listen to this show.

If it's you that finished off my Wikipedia page by saying, I think it's something like, he's very fond of Tweed and Tracy Chapman. Genuinely, I want to thank you. And furthermore, I've just decided, when I die, that is gonna be on my tombstone. I can't think of a better summary. As far as I want people to know,

he was fond of Tweed and Tracy Chapman. All the emotions contained between those two bookings. Everything else doesn't matter. I also want to give Roger credit, so we're gonna date this interview right now. So we're gonna air it when your book comes out. But right now we're watching the first group F, the first game in group F, Hungary versus Portugal.

And Roger has given an incredible interview while never taking his eyes off the screen. So credit to you for that. I'm looking at this mesmerized by this Portuguese team who look like a huge bottle of Draco on the wall come to life. Can you, you have to pick one, the goat, and you can't say like, you know,

Pelle or Maradona or whatever, anyone else in the history. Messi or Penaldo, who do you have? I just learned that everyone calls him Penaldo because all he does is kick penalty kicks. I do want to say, this is a bit of a Sophie's choice. Well, if you- This is like in your world, someone at gunpoint saying, Big Cat, who is the NFL goat?

Is it Tom Brady or is it Josh Allen? You'd be like, it's different. You make a case for either. You can make a case for either. And I think the reality is the world is divided. There's two kinds of football supporters. There's football supporters who over pluck their own eyebrows and there's football supporters who don't.

And if you are in the former category, the plucker, you'll normally lean towards Ronaldo. And if you just go natural and just let it be what it is, because you don't give a crap, you normally appreciate the body of work put together by Lionel Messi. This is though, you say you love America, how much do you love America?

Because we have to, oh, he almost scored right there. We have to frame every debate on who's the best of all time and every single game. Like if you notice, Kevin Durant, they're playing by the time this airs, he might be out of the playoffs, but every game, every shot, every dribble is an indictment on whether or not he's one of the greats or not.

And like his legacy is perpetually on the line. So you have to, you have to watch sports that way. The reality is, I'm now getting a bit, I'm definitely touched deeply by that, glimpsing that frailty of life, but the obsession of zero sum that has to be Ronaldo or it has to be Messi or it has to be LeBron, or you're kidding if you're leaving Scottie Pippin.

I mean, the reality is the NBA go is always Luke Longley and it knows the hell out of me that he's never mentioned in any of the Bull's histories. But ultimately, that kind of deep desire to eliminate each other and absolutely crush each other, I do, I'm trying to encourage a sports fandom that's based out of love. Okay, good luck with that because it's not gonna work.

That was beautiful, three hours of daytime television on ESPN, with just Stephen A. Smith being like, I really appreciate Davo Cephalosha. Mate, God, I can't imagine Stephen A. Smith if he became a force of joy, of positivity, of affirmation and love. That was beautiful immediately. Yeah, that was so eloquent that the end of the whole time

I'm thinking like, dude, come on, Messi's way better than Ronaldo. He could have his try-call-quest moment, just spread love until joy everywhere. I would turn it off instantly. Oh, mate. I mean, that's kind of what we're doing though. Isn't it positive to say like Messi is the greatest

of all time? Yeah. We're appreciating Messi and we take it as a slate against ourselves if somebody chooses to challenge Messi with somebody. I actually personally think Diego Maradona slash John Harkes is the greatest player of all time. Slash Colby Jones slash Freda Yadu.

Yeah, by the way, I agree with all, there's not one word you have, the America will be world champions. Please guard in big cats children's lifetime. This World Cup, first of all, we have to qualify for it. And if we don't, Give it to me straight. If we don't,

Are we gonna make this World Cup? I want us to qualify, but if we don't, that will be funny. If we don't, we'll just make up another tournament that we can win. We did a couple of weeks ago. No, that's a legit championship. People are not very mad at me in 2016.

Cause I said that before 2018, I said, if we don't qualify that will be very funny. And it was very funny. It was a dark day. It really was. But it was also funny. Oh, mate. It was, you know, in English education,

they teach 1066 the Norman invasion. They teach, they teach that as if it happened yesterday. It was, it was a, to any English kid, that is a brutal moment in history. You feel that. And that's, I never quite understood that. Cause obviously I was watching Debbie Gibson and I was watching different strokes.

And I was, you know, my, my mind was, was, was looking elsewhere. But my God, when we didn't qualify for the World Cup, that was, that was my 1066 in every regards. I'm glad you took pleasure. Well, the problem is what I love about soccer and soccer Twitter and the media is I actually very much enjoy watching soccer.

Like I do. I like watching the games. But at the end of the day, You're an owner. Yeah. I'm an owner and a savior. Yeah. And a savior. But my priorities are not,

they do not lie with soccer. They never will. There's other sports that I care far more about. So I can show up to soccer, say some shit to piss people off, and then be like, well, actually, I really only care about like real football. So like, what, what do I care?

And it's the perfect troll level. Yeah. For you. Yeah. Yeah. But you got to know, you got to know we're about to go we're about to enter into the promised land. Yeah. And that's what I say. How do you rain a sun?

Gee, I, when he, when he scores that goal on Angola in the World Cup final and all those, the guy in the head at the same time and then just rose, you will be, you will be first up. We'll be up on the table. Yeah. Absolutely. Like I like watching international soccer way more

than I like watching club soccer. Cause it, and does that make me, is that the equivalent of being the, I like college basketball more than professional basketball guy. Mate, I think it makes you more like you, like watching Nate Robinson fight one of the Paul brothers rather than real boxing.

They're all, all fairly, I mean, international football is a bit crapper as a actual game. But what you get with international football, and I think this is what you were getting at PST, I'm sure it was, was that when the, when the two teams take the field, their nation's histories take their field alongside. So we're about to watch France and Germany this afternoon.

Uh-oh. They've never a tabled, have they? I don't know if I want to watch it. You guys just put on the history channel. Well, they don't, they like each other, right? It's a lot of love. What's a, what's the most sensitive English Premier League club, fan base?

Like the fan base that you find, cause we'll do it too with, you know, American football where we will say something and most people are along with the joke, then all of a sudden you say one thing about one person, they're like, what the hell? You stealers. Yeah, how could you say that?

It's like, all right, well, we're, we're taking the piss out of everything, follow along. So what's that fan base in England where it's like, no matter what, they always get the most offended. There's a human darkness in all of them, big cap. It's like genuinely, I mean that the, the 80s still lives deeply within, within each team's fan base.

I feel like anecdotally speaking that, maybe not the most sensitive fan base, the fan base that gets the most shit is Tottenham. Is that fair? It feels like they always, cause they're, they're always like good enough, but never that good. They're always kind of, you know, you just describe my life, who amongst this is,

is like saying that they're good enough, but not like good. Man United fans, Manchester City fans. The reality is everybody has their ranks and English culture. And again, I write about this a lot in the bloody book is, was a lot about putting people down. It like, the reality is your joy, your American joy

in the 80s and 90s was that so much of what came out, that soft power, that culture that I imbibed, you know, Rolling Stone magazine, Saturday Night Live, Bruce Willis, all that crap that came out. All of it said, you can, whatever. I mean, the- You were saying there's like a, there's a darkness amongst most, most British soccer fans.

Just, you know, throughout- Most British. Most British in general, full stop. Is that even Leichester City fans? After- Especially Leichester City fans. Leichester City fans, you won 10,000 won. By the way, rest of the world again, saying it wrong.

Leichester City fans, you say it right. You say it right, you make it safe. What about Leichester City fans? If you hit the jackpot like they did a few years ago, no one thought it was possible, nobody did. And they end up living out the dream and winning, and they're finished, what, they were like, by far and away in first place, right?

I'm a bit angry at the Leichester City fans. The Leichester City fans. I'm very happy for them. It's amazing what they experienced in their lifetime. Genuinely, I'm so thrilled for them. I'm also a bit annoyed at that it happened because it gives you hope. It's true.

It's one of those things that gives you hope to like- It's basically like George Mason going to the Final Four and you're like, oh, you know, or every year when it, when, when some team gets into the college football playoff and you're like, hey, Washington, or Pete Alabama, no they can't. It's Pete Davidson dating another supermodel.

Yeah, right. Jay, one day. Ultimately, we have a debate on our show all the time because my partner, Michael, supports a team, Chelsea, they win a lot of things. So here's the approach to sports. His sports is all about winning. And that, by the way, when he first-

He's the true American. When he first, yeah, but the, he's not the New Orleans Saints, the New Orleans Aintz, Bum Phillips, hilarious, all that stuff. Ultimately, you know, when Chicago, one of the joys when I did move to Chicago, finally, I just went over there after university,

first opportunity, moved to Rogers Park, where I'd never set foot in, but I thought it was hilarious that they had a little place that had my name. And I became friends with them. They'd invite me around to the game. And I loved on Sunday, just the same people coming together, just joyously watching the Bears crap the bed,

bagels, beers, just amazing times. Ultimately, the memories are what are important. Knowing you're going to watch your team, Chicago Bears, you're going to watch your team, the Swansea City, you're going to watch your team, whatever, you know. Both of you guys, capitals. I mean, the funny, yeah, the funny thing is,

so many of the teams that I do support, I am drawn to the darkness, so many of them are historically self-sabotagingly awful. Chicago, White Sox, this is our year. And I mean, that's the reality. It is the common memories, the memories that you share with the cats is, the cat's kids as they get older,

that your family, your friends, all that crap. It is that, those shared moments. And when something randomly good by chance does bloody happen, which is so fleeting. I mean, it's life. I'm not really talking about sports. Life is crap, mostly. Life is dark, many challenges.

But when you get a moment of happiness, of joy, of T.J. Oshigou, when they're shorthanded, just savor it, savor that memory. And you just got to learn to dance like you're at your, at your own kid's wedding. It does make the highs higher when the lows are so low. So at Capitals especially, like when they won the Stanley Cup, I felt like I had earned something

because of all the shit that I had seen and like all the heartbreak. So it did, that one moment was a lot different for me. Like I felt, I actually felt, like you said, I was a psychopath that was pretending to be human. And it was a brief moment. Like I was the most human person on the planet. Like everybody else.

Did you like it? Yeah, oh. It felt fleeting. I never want to go back. But it felt great at the moment. Like it's good. If I had that one time, it's wonderful. If the Capitals were to go on and win,

if there were to be Perennial champions, I think each one would be less sweet. And I would quickly develop into the type of personality where I'd be like, I'm a winner. I root for winning franchises. And it's a direct reflection on my personality that they win so much. But we had Lewis Hamilton come on the show

and he'd like, I think he just won his 87th Street Championship. And I was just like, what? You know, after you've won this many, do you not just want to go and he looked at me like I was a completeness of moron? And he's like, no, I've got to win again. Yeah.

I've got to win again. And just that was a, I realized in that moment I was in a Star Wars cantina where we were completely different creatures from completely different planets. There was a competitive fire that burned in that human being. Which he had more competitive fire probably in the discarded tip of his fingernail. And I had in my whole body all that time.

So in your book, you say this might be another Wikipedia mistake, so tell me if I'm wrong. You say that you became, or you were driven to become an American citizen because of the United States performance at the 2014 World Cup. America. So if that led you to want to become an American citizen, what have the last three years of American soccer

made you want to do? Like, did you storm the Capitol? Where were you on January 6? I can't provide any proof of my whereabouts. I think my mate Paulie Walnut can vouch for me. The, what? I just say that on our dining room wall, we've got a photo of a gentleman from six generations ago.

I think everyone says he's my great, great, great, great, great grandfather. And I'm always, I always used to say to my grandfather, I'd always say, who is that? And they'd be like, oh, we don't know his name. No one can remember his name. I'd be like, well, why do we have a photo of him? They'd be like, he's the Cossack killer.

He's the one when the Cossacks came for us, he killed them all. Save the families. He's the Cossack killer. And I hope that in six generations time, my NBC headshot will be on the wall over my family's dining room. And they'll be like, who's that?

Who's that guy? And they'll be like, oh yeah, we don't remember his name, but he's the one. He's the one who brought the family to America. And that is, that is genuinely my wish. It is, it's a weird thing to- No, it's great. To say that it is the greatest achievement of my life.

I also think as in America, it's refreshing to hear that from time to time. Yeah. In the news, there's a lot of bad stuff that people are always talking about. You know, there's certainly some things we could be doing better as a country. But a lot of times you lose the perspective

that it is a symbol of hope for a lot of people who would change their entire lives just to become a citizen here. I think that it's important to remind yourself of the luck that we have growing up in this country. When I became a citizen, 2018, to stand in that line with like 243 other human beings from 63 countries, you know,

I'd just survived being beaten up in a late night chip shop after the pub shirt in Liverpool. That was like my big survival of being beaten by like a teacher and feel like the nuns and the blues brothers. That was my big survival. But you were a lot left and right and you really did see human beings who were crawled across deserts,

who'd survived civil wars, who were like crawled here, driven by that same notion of America, that joy, that wonder, that sense of possibility. And so what you say, you know, it's a tiny bit sincere for this show. So I've got to dial it back in. But my life has been very much

like the first half of Scarface. It's like, it's just an- Oh no. And I'm incredibly- What about the second half? I always do it all. It has. It's been like that.

And I'm so, there's not a day I don't wake up in Manhattan and take for granted the opportunity to live here. You were in your bedroom just looking at the Statue of Liberty. That city is like a big pussy that's just waiting to be fucked, right? Yeah. The world is yours. It's Scarface, not me.

I love it. Everyone go buy the book. Roger, I'm quoting cinema. Yeah. Everyone go buy the book. Reborn in the US. It is out now as you're listening to this. I actually think that you're a bigger coup

for the United States. Like getting you over here is bigger for me personally than Prince Harry. We got both of you guys. Yeah, we were both. I was the player to be named later in that trade. Yeah, he had a bag of balls. Piers Morgan.

Piers Morgan. No, it was Piers. America said, take Piers Morgan back please for the love of fucking God. Get rid of Morgan. And England had to cough up Harry and a player to be named later. And I was, I am that.

Cap considerations. I can give you a good three innings of middle religion. Yeah, I love it. All right, well, Roger, everyone go check out the book. It's fantastic. You'll also see him on NBC Sports all the time, Men in Blazers.

If you don't watch that show, I don't know what the hell you're doing. You're not a real soccer fan. And thank you. Oh, thank you. It's such a good book. It's such a good book. Hang loose.

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And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. You have heard him in your living room. You have, he has brought you some of the biggest sports moments. It is Joe Tessitor. He's a broadcaster for ABC ESPN. And Holy Moly with Steph Curry and Rob Riggle is out

Thursday, June. What's today's date? 16th. June 17th. June 17th, Tess. You just said that you were on a bunch of different radio shows. We are going to make sure that this one.

Big cat, big cat, worse than that. Radio shows are fine, bro. I just did 11 straight local news hits. And local news, it's like, I don't know about you guys, but like local news is its own beast now. Like the way they talk, the way they do spike, it's very, very sugary. So I am happy to be sitting right now,

chilling with you guys, because that is mind-numbing. Yeah, with the expletive sly, if you want. Drop as many cuss words as you want on this show. Yeah, that is mind-numbing stuff. Were you able to keep track of the different cities that you were doing the interviews in? Yeah, you want me to give you a quick, here let me give you, you rank these

if you were doing local news, you ready? All right, here we go. All right, so we bust, we opened up with Portland, very, very sweet. In fact, a traffic reporter joined in because her son is a big fan of the show, likes Holy Moly, likes Riggle and the whole thing. Very, very sweet people.

But anytime you get the traffic reporter involved in like the, you know, the entertainment segment. Mm-hmm. That's where my career is, by the way. Dallas, Philly, New York, San Francisco, Buffalo claiming that it's always beautiful in Buffalo. Yup, facts. Rockford, Illinois.

Yup. Rockin' Rockford, Illinois. Channel Fred Vansley. Sacramento. Yeah, Sean in Rockford, Illinois, nice guy. Sacramento, Wichita, Kansas, huge Rob Riggle fans. Huge. Yup, he plays out there, yeah.

And then your boy Mark, your boy Mark at WLS, ABC, Chicago. Oh, okay, nice. I like getting the traffic guy involved. Was he in the helicopter when he did it? No, no, I would have been all for that and I would have gone along with that. But no, this was like, you know,

the traffic lady who's up at the green screen but you know, the sun's a big fan of the show so if you wanna get involved, talk some Holy Moly. So, all right, so Holy Moly, it's the perfect summertime television. I hope that's not a diss, but I really do believe it. I love those summertime shows.

So Rob Riggle, Steph Curry, but is there a moment you went to, you know, journalism school, you're a big J, Monday night football, you've done big time college games, you've done boxing, all these things. Are you like, wait, what am I doing here? No, so just the opposite big catch. So for me, it was like,

I think I had done a championship fight that weekend and my guy out in LA is like, hey man, folks at ABC want you to come down Monday for a meeting. I'm like, what's the pitch? And he's like, it's extreme mini golf. I'm like, come again with that? It's extreme, we're taking mini golf and we're super sizing it.

I'm like, that is so ridiculous that that's like an automatic yes for me. So I loved it. And listen, you know the deal with this when between Monday night football and the SEC and the boxing, we take sports, we take so seriously when we broadcast, like the Twitterverse is ready to explode over everything.

So for me, hanging with Riggle and busting balls on people out on a mini golf course or getting their faces smashed in and falling into freezing cold water, it's the greatest departure of just enjoying myself I've ever had with a mic on. It's fun, man. Riggle's a blast.

It's a great juxtaposition with the patented Joe Tessitore big game voice announcing mini golf. Some people say that you've got the big game voice which lends credence to any game that you're calling. Other people say it's the Tess effect, meaning that just when you're up in the booth, crazy stuff happens around you. It's like a chicken or the egg situation.

Which one do you think? Do you think that you bring the magic? Or do you think that? No, I think I've just been working for a long time and I got bills to pay. So I'm out on the road every week doing enough sports where you're gonna catch some awesome games and some fun stuff's gonna happen.

And then because my personality as a broadcaster tends to be excitable reaction and big, they associate those things with me. But listen, man, I'm the son of an Italian immigrant who grew up in a big family in New York. We were loud on Sunday dinners. We were competitive. We like having fun.

So it's just my nature to sort of react that way when there's drama, games on the line or big plays happen, it's a big knockout. Okay, because I heard a different story. I heard that occasionally you're liable to sprinkle some of your magic Joe Tessitore dust out on the field to make the game start being exciting. No, PFT, that I like goofing around with the crew.

That I like the little magic dust to see if we can get over time. Yeah, I love the, you know what I really like when you're sitting up there in your broadcast and football game is when you're looking up at the scoreboard and you got the oddball score and we're sitting there in a commercial break and you hit the talk back and you say to your buddies,

the director and the producer, you're like, if we get this and that and this alarm, if we get this and that and this, we could get eight points this way. And then I feel like trying to work your way towards overtime as the game plays out, that I enjoy, I'm always rooting for overtime. Hey, by the way, you guys have totally taken

over the world now. I'm sitting back watching what you guys have done the past few years. I know it's the first time I've been on with you guys, but it's incredible what you guys have done. And I wake up this morning, I'm seeing $60 million podcast deal. God bless everybody.

Yeah, that was an awesome man. It wasn't you, but it's gonna be you soon enough. I mean, this is some serious stuff you guys have created now. All right, so thank you, your check that we sent for you to say that we'll be in the middle of it. All right, so you just mentioned something when you were talking about how, doing serious games, you're not worried,

but everyone takes everything you say very seriously. I've always wondered when you're in the broadcast booth, accidents happen. I don't, I actually think that we're too hard on broadcasters in general, just because you're doing three and a half hours, four hours of a game. There's gonna be a-

I'm allowed to return business text while we're having our conversation. Yes, yes, something's gonna be screwed up. Something's gonna, you're gonna screw up a name. How much does it suck though, when you do screw something up and you're like, all right, everyone's gonna run with this, like the decaf, Metcalfe, Flo on Monday Football.

Are you like, do you beat yourself up about it in the moment? No, I mean, yeah, you want, everybody wants to pitch a no-hitter and have fun and have fun while still pitching the no-hitter and be perfect, but you learn it comes with the territory and I think, I think I've had some great producers and great friends as analysts who guide me.

I mean, I'm a pretty intense guy. So yeah, in the moment, you may be beating yourself up a little bit, but then you reflect on the real world and life and you just let it go. Yeah, listen, Booger McFarland's like a brother to me. He's a dear friend. And I know he loves the two of you and PFT,

I know you guys have these battles, these Peloton battles. Yeah, he just kicks my ass. So it's not much of a, it's a one-way rivalry. Dude, is he unbelievable for a guy that like was walking around at 330 pounds for what he's able to? I think a lot of times we just forget that even defensive tackles,

even the guys that you look at on a football field, you're like, wow, that guy's kind of fat. There's still like top 0.001% of athletes in the world. Like I look at his Peloton outputs, how in the world is he producing these numbers? But anyways, the point being Booger's got a great attitude and he was very, very good for me in terms of, when you're not satisfied, when you do make a mistake,

what happens? Cause he's just got a great attitude and great spirit about him. And he always brings that joyfulness every time he's on the air. And I think you see that in the work he's doing now. And I know you see that with the business he's had with you guys.

But long answer to a short question, but that's where my head's at with it. What about when Booger gets his hands on the Telestrator and you're watching him draw and you're like, Oh God, he's about to draw another penis. Like dude, you're like, Hey man, maybe you like make the shaft a little misshapen. But yeah, when you have the two safeties over here

and then you have the right guy. I've been in that position. That is, you know, what's funny about that, you should YouTube that, but Tracy Morgan actually did an SD's bit with me, maybe about three, four years ago where that's exactly what he did. That was the bit, man.

And you just, it was so frigging funny, but Morgan crushed on that. All right, so you came up with boxing. I'm curious this. You still obviously assume love boxing. Yeah, I got a fight. I got a fight to Vegas in like an hour. There you go.

You got a chance to fight Saturday night on ESPN. So what do you make of all these celebrity boxing matches? You know, the Mayweather Paul thing, is it good or bad for boxing? Well, the only part that's, I'm all for anybody, boxing is unbridled capitalism, right? That's what it's always been. It's the Wild West, it's all cash grabs.

I'm fine with the cash grab. I'm fine with exhibitions. Exhibitions have been going on in boxing for years. I'll leave you to do it. Heck, George Foreman fought five guys in one night. The exhibitions are never gonna go away. It's pure entertainment. The problem is, is when the public actually believes

they're watching a fight. I mean, Floyd Mayweather sitting there telling you for a month, I retired from boxing five years ago. Like I'm just, if they're gonna pay me this money, go in and just do this and carry the guy and dance around. But when the public actually thinks they're watching a fight and are talking about it as if it's a fight, buying it as if it's a fight,

the coverage of it is as if it's an actual sporting event. That's where I don't go for it, where you're fooling the public on that. Floyd told everybody straight up what this was. It's a flat out cash grab. But people then like, people are sitting back like, what'd you think? I thought this in that like,

what are you talking about, dude? Like, do you go to the week of the Pro Bowl and you're analyzing like, you know, Joe Montana playing a beach touch game against other old retired? Like what, it's just an exhibition. It's a cash grab. It's a good point.

It's a good point. And I just, I love boxing. I do think that boxing has suffered from not having that like allure of a big time heavyweight champion that everyone is drawn to. You get a little bit of it with, you know, Tyson Fury, right? So, but it's just-

Have you ever had Tyson Fury on? Have not. No. Oh my God. No, this guy's an all time character. You guys would be awesome with him. Awesome. So what do you think it is?

Because I do think that boxing still, like if you told me that there was going to be a big time, huge fight, heavyweight fight, I still think that that's a moment. Like I've been to a big boxing, you know, fight at MSG. I've been to these that you can't, we went to McGregor Mayweather in Vegas, which obviously is a little bit of exhibition,

but also had the big fight feel. There is nothing truly like that. Like it really is in its own category. So how do we recapture that with boxing? Listen, boxing really hasn't gone away. If you look at the money that fighters are making, that promoters are making, that networks feed into it, what happened with boxing,

and especially for our generation as sports fans, is that it was tucked away in the corner of premium cable and pay-per-view because of HBO's lead position for 35 years. So HBO and the promoters that were attached to them, and they did a wonderful job. I mean, Jim Lampley and everybody in that production, standard bearers of the sport,

and they did a wonderful job with it. But what it did was it kept the same eyeballs that were willing to pay between $50 and $100 every single weekend in the sport. So for an entire generation, they only came and went from it for a few key events. But boxing has been actually, I would almost tell you, in a golden era,

in the lower weight classes, and then recently with the emergent Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua and Diante Wilder, now you're starting to get some compelling heavyweight fights again that do big business. Tyson Fury, July 24th is fighting Wilder. It's a Fox CSPN share pay-per-view. If he gets through that,

he's gonna face Anthony Joshua and what's gonna be a global mega event. They had the term set for August 14th. There were some legal actions that got in the way. The site fee for that fight alone is $155 million. So on the global stage, the sport has really never gone away. Yeah.

And so if you were to design like, I'll put it this way, what's your favorite sports or nuts? Cause you do it all, you do, you do football, you do boxing, you've done horse racing, right? Yeah, I did the triple crown on ABC in the Belmont for years, and now that's all over on NBC.

Man, I love it all, but I like, you know, I tend to lean to, I really love where there's something on the line. Like, listen, I'm gonna be out there and play a role for the McGregor-Corey trilogy fight. Obviously I do boxing in the off season every week for ESPN and for pay-per-view. Love college football to no end.

Love it to no end. Love the tradition and pageantry. So if I stay in my lanes where, where I have some level of expertise, passion, you know, genuine, authentic passion for it, that's where I wanna be. And that's, I've been blessed in my career to do that. So when there's a, when there's a great fight,

when somebody digs deep, when somebody gets up off the canvas and there's great drama and closes the show, the moment of a fighter closing the show of stalking the prey and getting the knockout in Vegas with a championship on the line is tremendous. It's tremendous. Kickoff in the SEC at Bama or under the lights

in the swamp or at LSU or Rocky Top, it's the opposite, like the kickoff, the anticipation for college football, the pageantry, the lead up, that roar, I love equally as much. So, all right, so sticking on college football, what's your favorite venue to call a game in and maybe your favorite memory from that place?

Well, favorite memory is more recent and it's stunned me and it's shocking because I've done some awesome games and the crews I've been on, we've been really blessed to do great games all over the place. And games are very meaningful with the national championship and right through the college football playoff.

But you may know that my son plays for Jeff Hathley at Boston College, but last year when they were playing number one Clemson on the road and he pulled off the fake field goal, something about that will cherish forever. I happen to be in the booth calling the game on ABC. You never expect it, you don't know it's coming

and here it is, my son did that. So, I don't know that anything's ever gonna top that for our family. Favorite place to call a game? Boy, those 40 years when the swamp was rocking was great, great. I still love being high above at Bama, that's great. Kyle Field now is different, that place is different.

I tend to be an SEC guy, right? I tend to love everything that comes with it. So, I know Boog's gonna kill me for saying nighttime in Baton Rouge is not the first thing that comes out of my mouth, but I may go with A&M guys. Wow. I may go with A&M, yeah. Well, on the other side of that coin, what area, what fan base do you hate the most?

Because I know you probably get shit like our friend Joe Buck. Hey, bro, I went to Boston College, my son plays for BC. So, you know where Notre Dame stands in our house, right? And you know the way I view a trip to South Bend, I got a lot of friends who are Notre Dame guys. I've been close with a lot of folks through the years there with the Irish, but when you're a BC guy

and you're on the other end of South Bend, that's a quick answer for me. So, you brought up your son, that was a great play. You mentioned earlier that, you know, if you screw something up in the room. Hey, by the way, you know my son's a kicker and punter and holder, that was a great effort by you last year getting out there on the field.

I appreciate it, you know, the man in the arena. Sometimes you don't really appreciate what's going on until you try a few kicks yourself. What did you think of it? What did you think of doing? Well, I used to kick and I kicked when I played rugby for a while. So, I knew that I was able to like not totally embarrass

myself, so I was just happy that I didn't like fall down. You had a very, so you did some things that like are just so naturally good, like your jab step and your drive step, very, very natural. Did you ever go live? Did they have, did you go full live? I didn't go full live. No, the tryout, what you see is what you get.

I think there were five kicks. I think I made three of them. The other two were very narrow misses, would have been good on a high school upright, which is what I trained on. Not making excuses, but I went out there and executed. Your son, he's a kicker. He's also running back,

because he did get that first down. When you were announcing that game, did like as a play by play guy, you got to be prepared for everything, right? Did you have any inside information that this was a play that they might be running? No, PFT, that's actually one of the great tags to the story is that, you know,

John didn't tell me anything the whole week. And the whole week, you know, I'm sitting there prepping and I'm with Davo and I'm with Venables and I'm with that whole side of the world. And then I get to production meetings with Boston College. And the whole week, we were just never talking football. He was getting ready to do his thing with his teammates. I'm preparing for my broadcast.

So I go down there afterwards, I walk across the field and make it over outside the locker room and he comes out and he is hot like a hornet. Because remember, they were up by 18 points and they lose a tight one at the end. Although you were probably catching the big number there, big cat, I'm hoping. I can't remember what I had in that game.

I think I might have had BC. Yeah, I think I had BC in that number in that game, yeah. To have been catching double digits there and laughing all day long. Anyways, and I said to him, hey man, no heads up on that. He goes, I couldn't tell you. I knew it was in all week long.

It was in the playbook all week long. But no, he didn't give me the heads up on it at all. Wow, we've got a guy in our studio right now, Jake Marsh, he works with us. He's a play-by-play guy. He's a trained play-by-play guy. He went to Syracuse, he's a big J journalist. I'm sure he has some questions for you,

but do you have any advice specifically for Jake? No, I don't. I'm sure he's kicking ass and he's gonna do fine. And those Syracuse guys, that's the assembly line of knowing how to do it. I didn't study journalism. I didn't study communications. I was in the school of management

with everybody who's now working at a hedge fund. I have a business degree, but I just believe that a lot of times when it comes to this, when the red light goes on, you're either gonna be able to do it or you're gonna piss down your leg. And I think there's a lot of truth to that. And I think, you gotta know sports inside now.

You have to work in the field. So the whole time I was in the school of management with all these guys that have crushed it on Wall Street now for the last 25 years, I was sitting there doing college radio, doing play by play, getting in my crappy Oldsmobile and driving down to Texas during breaks

to work in a non-union shop just so I could get experience in the local news and just learning in the field. And I think that, you know, for somebody like that, I think the more you do it, the better you get. And I'm sure he's already really good. All right, so Jake, do you have a question? Cause we basically, like you have a big J journalism.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, all right. How's it going, Joe? A big fan. Hey, maybe you like to go back to us. And also, Jake, let's try to remain neutral here as journalists. You can't say that you're a fan right off the bat.

Right. Stay neutral. Thanks. How's it going, Tess? Thank you for taking the time. It's going well. So when I'm calling games, sometimes I feel like I have the issue

of maybe getting too excited at inappropriate times. Or I feel like you want to save your peak excitement for a game winning touchdown, but when a touchdown happens at 14-7, I feel like I'm getting too loud as well. So how do you manage that? I don't know. You want to be measured.

You want to be appropriate. But like, does any of this really matter, especially nowadays, can we just be joyful? Do we have to have rules to everything? I mean, just be authentic and joyful and enjoy calling a game. And heck, everybody loves Gus Johnson. Don't they, my man?

No. No. What? I don't. I think he's terrible. No, I think he's terrible. Listen, I think if it's natural, big cat, if it's authentic and it's natural and it's good,

you don't want to be out of control, obviously. You want it to be appropriate. But if it's authentic to who you are in that show, I think anything that's contrived and forced, like all bullshit on, I mean, just as long as it's authentic to who you are. I agree with you there. I think you guys have a very hard job,

but I do think at the end of the day, I want to be like brought through the game and never have a moment where I'm like, whoa, he's trying too hard or he's doing something that like, it's taking away, right, right. And then, but the one thing that you guys have to deal with, and I'm going to give you a little tip here. You don't need an ask for it, but gamblers,

now that gambling has become legalized everywhere, what Jake just described, like if I have a team and they score a touchdown and the announcer doesn't react in like an excited way, I get pissed. I'm like, dude, where's the juice? You're on that side. Where's the juice? Yeah, like I want some juice for this touchdown.

So you guys are now entering a time when criticism probably going to get a little hot. I'll just throw it out there. I like to criticize. Listen, I think it's actually going to be big cat. I actually think that the growth of gambling and accessibility is going to be the best thing that happens to our business

because nothing's going to be meaningless. There is no meaningless thing. It doesn't matter what the score is. It also doesn't matter what the game is. It matters what the handle is, where the juice is, where the action is. So who cares if that game's on the number, if that game's teetering on the total,

if that game's playing in that range, what does it matter now if you've got a blowout? So that whole idea of blowout material, screw blowout material, man. If we're catching 24, who cares if it's a 28 point lead? Agreed. So are you going to talk about it more openly because I know that we've always had,

Al Michaels has given the nods to it, but now that it's becoming legalized, it would be nice if announcers mentioned that stuff. Even though it's a touchdown to take it from 28 to 21, the spread's 24 and a half, and that's a huge touchdown. Yeah, listen, you do whatever the public demands. My whole thing is you just serve the viewer. If that's where we are,

and that's what the viewer demands, then we serve the viewer. So if that's how they want to be spoken to in broadcast too, we got great people, wherever I've worked, ABC, ESPN, no matter where I work, who understand these things and they'll guide us. If I'm being told, hey, play to that, serve the fan that way, I absolutely will.

And as you could probably tell, I could be a little too comfortable doing that. It's very much in my lane to play to that and to have an understanding. Whoa, that was anti-Italian. That was anti-Italian, Joe. Not anti-Italian. I grew up in Schenectady in New York.

It doesn't take much of a Google search to understand the neighborhood I grew up in and who I grew up around. And I'm very well versed at that. I was reading the daily racing form before I learned math. So it's just who I am, it's what I like. I've spent most of my adult life in a casino in the off season.

So like I said, I'm heading to Vegas in an hour here. So sitting there and glancing at the board is what I like to do. In boxing, I think it's actually, I actually like the players in boxing. And in boxing, we have gotten to this place now. When you watch the fight on Saturday night, I'll talk about the prop plays.

I'll talk about the over-under the total rounds. I'll talk about the money line. And I think it makes boxing an interesting watch as well. I think combat sports is a real good watch when you got juice. Yeah. Do you think that you're the most Italian person at ESPN? Well, we got some beautiful cuisine at ESPN.

We got some wonderful people because we're here in Connecticut and we have the densely Italian-American population here. But I'm very, very proud of my heritage, my ethnicity. I'm very proud of the fact that I've had a career speaking English on national TV when my mother came here on a boat and couldn't speak English.

And eight brothers and sisters had a total of $9. So when you guys can get yourself to Connecticut, come here, we'll fire up the wood-fired pizza. We'll make you sell some Navatana pizzas and we'll hang out and talk sports in the backyard. Yeah. Make some pie. I heard that you have a pizza oven in your backyard.

Love it, man. Love it. That is my passion. Some guys, you like golf. I like making pies. I like opening up really good tequila, getting the wood-fired going and spending a Saturday or Sunday

with everybody coming over and just making pizza all day long drinking all day long. That is how I want to spend a weekend. I like that. Sounds incredible, honestly. I like that. What is your summer go-to drink?

Ooh, any novelty drink. Coors Light. I like Coors Light. I'm a Coors Light guy. Coors Light, Coors Light Seltzer. Drink. Coors Light, yeah, no, I said Coors Light. Coors Light, the mountains are blue.

But also, if you were to twist my arm, any novelty drink that's served in like a punch bowl. With New Amsterdam vodka. With New Amsterdam vodka and like a giant beer that's suspended in mid-air, but if you can serve me a drink that's in a non-traditional vessel, I'll order it every time I see it.

That's a problem. I love that. You're the coconut carb guy when you're on vacation, the Caribbean. Yes. You're the bit with us, yeah, you're all in. Love it. Love it.

I have one last question for you, Tess. Everyone go check out Holy Moly. It's gonna be on Thursday nights. Have we talked Holy Moly? Yeah, well, yeah, Thursday. We talked about it at the start, but I just threw it in there. That was a professional journalism thing I just did.

Holy Moly Thursday night. Steph Curry, Joe Tessitor, Rob Regal. Check it out. Can we just, Big Cat, can we pause for a moment? Can we just pause and think about the fact that ABC has literally handed the keys to us for two hours in prime time to do with two hours of extreme mini golf.

Regal and myself up there doing this and Steph Curry and this team like in craziest holes you could ever dream of. And this is two hours of national TV. Love it. This is what we are as a society. Can you bet on it? Do they have lines on it?

Now, obviously it's taped. Right. But let me tell you something. Very serious. Yeah, so it's, you know, obviously it's taped. That's entertainment. Why do you say obviously? But there's a quarter of a million dollars is on the line.

So, but it was taped. But let me, if we ever did a live finale, it would be the greatest live action betting. Yes. You could ever. All right, so get it done. Get it done. Because you could bet on the obstacle.

Yes or no, do they, like, can they run past the porta-potties or get knocked in? You can bet on the stroke play. You can bet head to head. If we do a live season finale some year, that has to happen. Yeah, it is. All right.

I love it. I love it. All right, so my last question was we, Kauai Leonard had a dunk the other night and Iron Eagle said it's a Kauai light. Yeah. Do you, those type of like little jokes, puns, whatever you want to call them,

do you plan those ahead of time? Or are you like, all right, Kauai's playing if he does something sick? No, I mean, I, you know, I don't. I just like, you know, I get, you know, the one that they attached to me was, is, you know, Texas is back, folks.

Yeah. When it was the double overtime, you know, years ago when they had the Notre Dame game, double overtime on Sunday night or on ABC, monstrous rating, great. And, you know, swoops brought it in. And just in that moment, remember, Notre Dame was top 10.

Texas thought that they were going to be like, here we go, we got this thing where we want it and the program and here's this signature win. And instead of doing the play-by-play, I just did that. So I just always react in the moment and Texas is still waiting to get back. We'll see. But I just always react in the moment.

But the, the one thing with Holy Moly that I love, mostly you guys talked to Riggo, right? Yeah. Riggo's part of you. I mean, he is so good to just sit there and chill with and laugh with. He's so quick-witted. He's so funny.

So with Holy Moly, there's no stripping of anything. They just start rolling from the moment we walk on the set and it never stops. And then they just take this mountainous stuff that we film overnight from 7 p.m. till 5.30 in the morning. Half the time we're delusional. We've got a lack of oxygen to the brain

because we need to sleep. And they cut that thing down and put it on ABC. And it's just all on the fly. It's just all Adelaide react to what you're seeing and have fun with it. And he's taught, he's taught me a lot about how to do, you know, I got to do the straight man comedy to his bits. And there's nuance to that,

but he's a joy to work with. Just one little thing that maybe you could use. We used this in our Cornhole broadcast the other week. Big Cat was playing Cornhole. And I was doing colors. So he, I think you made like- Is this on YouTube? Can I go back and watch it?

Yeah, I think you made four Cornholes in a row. And I was like, that's Mr. Hole. You should call somebody Mr. Hole. You know, we had a hole last year called Uranus. Yeah, and this year we have a hole it's a woodpecker themed hole. That's simply called the pecker. So I could use some advice as to how to deal with those.

You know, we actually, the producers on Holy Moly this year, I think it's in this Thursday night at eight o'clock episode, there's a hole called Cornhole. So they said, hey, everybody loves Cornhole. Everybody loves a good tailgate, summer fun, you know, drinking beer corn. So we'll do a Cornhole themed hole.

And they've got the ear of corn is like 30 foot long and they replaced the kernels. Like every third kernel is now a car airbag. So as you're running past the thing, you get launched. I mean, absolutely launched. I think that's actually on the episode that airs Thursday night. Okay, that's a great tease.

But just use Mr. Hole. Mr. Hole is a good nickname. I think it plays. Mr. Hole, yeah. All right, well, Tess, this has been awesome. Why don't you guys come out to this? Why don't you guys come out to the filming in California next year

and we'll put you on some of these holes? I mean, I'm in, in theory. Yeah, I'm gonna say, you crushed these obstacles. What time of year do you film? We film like the whole month of March, you know, Steph comes out a little bit, Riggle and I are there every day. But yeah, in March, you come out to LA one day in March.

We throw you on some of these holes. You have a blast and we go out for a- All right, counterpoint March Madness. Well, that you're four hours away from Vegas and you could get stupid in Vegas betting on March Madness. Counter, counterpoint, counterpoint. I don't know if ESPN will let us back on the air or the Disney family.

Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. No, initially, because I don't want to get hurt again. All right. Okay, I'll let you guys deal with that. All right, we'll test.

Thank you so much. We'll be tuning in Holy Moly and appreciate your time. Guys, congratulations on all your success. Really, honestly, keep it up, man. Thank you. Thank you so much. Great to see you. You're welcome.

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All right, let's wrap it up. We got some guys on chicks and then Billy, whatever you got for us, what happens to you on the toilet? Why so sweaty? What? Why do you guys sweat on the toilet? I don't sweat on the toilet.

I mean, sometimes. Like it's hot. Or if I've eaten something really spicy. That girl's guy is doing something. He's jacking off on the toilet. He's doing something. He's doing something. Blow.

Something's going on. He's doing all his pushups. All the toilet blow. He's doing his pushups on his toilet. Why, how does she know how sweaty he is on? Is this like Blumkin territory? I don't know. Why are guys so sweaty on the toilet?

Are you guys sweaty on the toilet? Occasionally, I mean. If you gotta work it out. Mm-hmm. But nah. Nah. After a big meal, maybe. I'm just sweaty in general.

Yeah. Hi. Hi. Now you can tell, I'm not gonna say it. What? A lot of activation points in this paragraph. Uh-oh. Hi, huge fan of the pod.

Actually, my top now. Explanation point. My question I have is, what moment sticks out for you as your most embarrassing partial experience ever? Thanks so much, Katelyn. Most embarrassing experience here. Say probably when.

I mean, every time that Hanks posts a picture of me. Yeah. He's probably mine. I had a bad picture. Posting great pictures, yeah. I had a bad picture in Hong Kong. Maybe reconsider a lot of choices. When Billy posted by Penis.

I had a rugby game. No, that part was fun. If I had been like 15 pounds lighter, that would have been the best decision of my life. Yeah, probably every time Hanks posts a picture of me. That sucks a lot. Also, anytime I get duped online, that always sucks.

That always burns a little bit. Although I'm kind of over it now, but there's definitely been a few times where like shit. Shouldn't have retweeted that. What about peeing your pants on camera? No, that was funny. That was just straight funny. I guess I was a little embarrassed.

No, I mean, allegedly. Caps won the championship. I would say actually. The national championship. When Eric and Dave had to like have a real conversation with me about peeing in the sink. That was a little embarrassing. Like that did suck.

That was a weird month when we were like, it's funny that big cat pisses in the sun. But we were in an office with a hundred people in two battles. It was an obscene situation. It was actually a fire code issue. Yes, so I was actually helping everyone. And I was running the water and soap every time. And saving money on the water bill.

Right, exactly. You were looking out for the bottom line. But also it hurts. It did hurt a little bit. If you hadn't pissed in the sink, that probably would have cost our company at least like $20 million in valuation when we got purchased. Yeah, that's true.

Also getting our TV show canceled after one episode. That was, I feel like that was more embarrassing in the first like five minutes. But then once I realized how much less work we had to do, it became pretty cool. Yeah, that one kind of sucked. Wait, they're showing. Oh no, this is never mind.

All right, keep going. Hey, PMT crew. Why does ice cream soothe a lady's menstruation? Is that true? Cause then if that's true, I must be on my period all the time. I don't know. I think according to this question it is.

Why soothe? Does that mean like alleviates cramps? Yeah. And also I don't know what she means eating it or like applying it. Oh, like putting it inside. Yeah. Let me just be,

let me speak totally up front here. She's probably sitting down in a pint of ice cream. Let me be totally up front here. Like periods to me are on the same level as like trying to understand the universe. Nah. Just exists. Yeah, it's just, I don't,

if you think about it too much, your brain will start to hurt. It's the red planet. So I stay away from it. I stay away from it. Yeah. I think it's honestly just a matter of ice cream makes everything better.

You could say, how come ice cream like alleviates my nipple pain? Yeah. Well, cause it's ice cream. How come ice cream makes me happy when my favorite team lose? Well, cause it's ice cream. Right.

One don't get a pin. All right. Is it weird? My boyfriend picks his dingleberries and tries to get me to sniff them. Yes. Kind of weird. Is he the coach of German Snatchel team?

Yeah. Sounds like it. Hello. How will PFT's ownership status of the Packers be affected with this new involvement with the football team? That's a matter of business with the Packers. I look after the bottom line

and with the football team, it's just, I'm part of the fan network. Although, I do. What's the new involvement with the football team? I'm a football ambassador for the football team, which. Why? Because. You got duped.

I, What? I didn't really get duped. Tell the story. So I, I want to support the football team and they asked me if I want to be on the council of fans. And I said, sure. And I was like, this will be cool.

Maybe it's like a, What? No. Maybe it's like me, Kevin Durant, Wale, Matthew McConaughey, You thought this was like all celebrity fans. And then I got on the zoom call with Ron Rivera. And he's like, congratulations.

You're our celebrity fan. And I was like, this is depressing for the Washington football team that I am. I am the celebrity fan. Who else is in it? A bunch of fans, which is great. I love the fans. Wow.

So I don't know. Is this going to affect my journalistic integrity? You were like. He thought he'd get on a zoom call with Kevin Durant and Matthew McConaughey. You thought you were like, this is going to be sick. I'm going to have meetings with all these A-listers. I'm an A-lister now.

And then you're like, wait, what? No, no, not at all. I just, I thought that I. You kind of did in the back of your head. No, I didn't. Kind of like. Absolutely. Of course they asked me.

Absolutely. And Kevin Durant and Matthew McConaughey. Absolutely not. But I was thinking, who are the other, like who are the biggest name football team fans that there are and none of them are on this list. It didn't at any moment. Like, cause it, like just you explaining it

before you even got to the end, it struck me as like the Washington football team basically doing something for PR to be like, hey, we have fan ambassadors. We're listening to the fans. Yeah. No, that's exactly what it is. You didn't realize that?

No, but I got to have a Zoom call to run repair. Got it. What does it feel like? Which sucks is I think I might have to do work now. Yeah. No, I'd say no to, like whatever. I assume this was maybe a KM asked you to do this. Yeah.

She was involved. Yeah. I'm just like, nah. What does it feel like to come as a man? Awesome. Yeah, pretty good. Actually, ice cream's better. It feels, I mean, it's just real good.

This is weird. Yeah. Guys, I'm checking. I can't even question this. Can't describe you at all again. Well, it makes a big sense. It's a trick I just want to know that. Tell us in intricate detail what it feels like to come, Hank.

Feels great. Lightheaded. It's kind of like when you hit a home run in baseball and you don't really feel the ball hit the bat. Touch them all? Yeah, touch them all. That's pretty much what I can say. You're floating?

I'm never done either. Right after. Hey, fellas, I'm currently on vacation alone in Florida and waiting for my family to get down here. I'm 28 years old and can't decide if I should just go to a random bar and get shit-faced. What is the appropriate age range to do this? As a woman?

Go get shit-faced by yourself? Yeah. I'd say it's old. Waiting for her family, though. She's not like depressing. She's got nothing else to do. She's waiting for her family. Well, it's also, but okay.

So this is actually a tricky one because I think that the age range is irrelevant. It's more that if you get fucked up and then your family shows up and they're like, wait, you're fucked up by yourself? They're all going to just immediately think you have a problem. So you got to be careful on that end.

Especially because they can't drink on planes anymore. Right, so they're all going to be like, wait, what happened here? Why are you fucked up? If your family's going to show up drunk, then I think it plays. Right. But was she asking, can I go out by myself all night

and get drunk and then go back home? Or is she just waiting for her family that very day? I think you just got to eat a lot of ice cream. Like that really would be the point. I also think it's more acceptable to go out and get shit faced by yourself outside than it is indoors. In terms of age in general, I feel like it's,

I said this the other day. I think it's like 32, 33 is right around when you can't be the like, you're the drunkest guy at the party guy. Right, at that point in the back of everybody's head, it's like, this guy has a problem. Yeah, like, oh shit, like what's up with him? Like why is he by far the most wasted?

And meanwhile, the second most wasted guy is like, that guy's cool, that guy's hilarious. Right, right, right. So I think that's probably the age cut off for being drunkest person at the party. That's it. All right, Billy, anything new to wrap up? So Rick Petino is actually kind of in a bad place.

He just lost to Canada and everyone's saying that once Giannis came to play for the Greek national team, that would be like saving grace. That kind of didn't work out. So his Olympic hopes are kind of dashed. Guess who else is Greek? I don't know. That's a good question.

Philip the first. We know him now. Oh, is that Prince's dad print? Yeah. Oh! Yeah. He's Greek? Wait, so how the fuck is he in the Royal Family?

He's born in Germany, man. He's like a mail order prince for the Queen, seriously. Wow. So the Queen was horny. Yeah. Okay. I'll say this, she got a stud. Also.

Wait, why is this guy giving the ball to Dak Prescott? He doesn't need a, oh, he's signing it. Okay, never mind, go ahead. Also, the woman who put the sign up that caused a crash slipped through French authorities' fingers and escaped the country. Oh, really, she escaped from the French? Yep.

Crazy. And to that, I think it was to damage all the mini motors in some of the people's bikes. There's this new thing called like, so once Lance Armstrong got caught for doping, there's this new thing called moto doping where they put tiny motors inside the bikes. Like seamless and door dash.

No, like tiny. No, I know. Yeah, yeah, but like the bikes that go through the city, they use small, small little motors. Yeah, but like ones you can't even see. Nano motors. So a crash would be a good way to destroy all the tiny motors.

I saw it on 60 minutes once. And yeah, female hyenas have penises. Wow, all right, shout out. Love is love. All right, quick reminder, it's Pride Month. Aren't they called Pride's of hyenas? Yeah, that's true. Wow.

I think they might be a cackle. Nature's. Is that true? Yeah, I think it's a cackle. Yeah, Pride is a lion. Oh, yeah. That was close. Okay, so Friday we have Tim Woods,

awesome Dungeons & Dragons, no show Monday, back on Wednesday and Friday. So that's the schedule for the 4th of July week, but we will have a show on Friday. We'll be a new show. All right, let's do numbers. 59. 86.

99. 99. 69. 8. 74, have we ever had a 74? Welcome to the three-time club, 74. Whoa. Love you guys.

Ooh, dear. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I'm talking away. Now I don't know what I have to say. I'm saying it anyway. Today's another day to find you. Shine it away. I'll be coming for your love of pain.

Take on me. Take on me. Take me out. Take on me. I'll be gone. You're not to yourself. Send me less to save. I'm upset it's perfect.

Stop a little wait. Stop it, learning my life is OK. Stay up to me. It's no better to be safe than sorry. It's no better to be safe than sorry. Take on me. Take on me. Take me out.

Take on me. I'll be gone. You're not to yourself. All the things that you say and isn't what I thought. Just to play my memories away. All the things I've got to remember. Shine it away. I'll be coming for you anyway.

I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. Take on me. Take on me. I'll be gone. You're not to yourself. You're not to yourself.